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The Weekly Roast and Toast 10-16-18

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2:29:35 hr | 2 years ago

The Weekly Roast and Toast 10-16-18

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On December, do what showing it last time he started, but this about saying, okay, we worry about billion, Corey moderated my how you doing man. I'm hot. Had all that cold weather that cold weather is out there here. I thought it'd be nice and snug in hip. You matter actually a couple of times and making you stick until you want. That's what it is. That's the way it is. Chilean. Yeah, the frito pie. Yes, it man. That's what that is. So you want me cut on the air for you? I wouldn't mind that. Thank you. Study with cold weather. All right. All right. By the way it is you pay a price for that fashion man. Kotal. No. His own. And now for the big you look good. And you looking nice to me, you got on my favorite time man. Is this your favorite? That's my favorite one. I didn't know that that lost as negro. Told me they thought this look like you. Billy. Waiting for momma, the. Is that you and like for real thing, every nigger looks a light. Billy. Keep looking at and it looks like. I love that I do do doing man, good to see a good to see man when they have a good show here tonight. I'm Cory call him by the way just in case you didn't catch it and you're hosted night alone. These guys over here and we'll have good water. Some water for you. So you can quench all Chris butters. Taste. Yeah, you might wanna you might wanna throw the is to. Best thing wash down methane. Oh, it's coming. This opioid tonight. I'm going to try to make something good out of something bad. You know, one of my always do, that's what man we always try to add. Like, you know, whenever you guys some shit, we try to put a nice sugar coating on. How much corn is in it. Got to do something happened today that a lot of people are sad about people even been to Sears and years man. Sears for years man. See, I can't say that because you've been going to see, well, see, I feel bad about it because I have not. And here in the news about Sears filing for bankruptcy, even it used to be America's store and Nick bakruptcy, and it made me start. Rigidness ain't been used, but here's a big part of childhood. Remember that popcorn with the cartoon alligators. Memories. Say that memory. For a lot of things is Sears got me through man in anybody. Well, we'll talk about that. Yup, around thinking, man hung up on right now. You just don't know. Charter, seventy toys r. us. Now Sears Sears boy are getting raced. What are they? Just taking everything man don't get blockbuster. Gee, I know. Also. You boy TI. Not yet. Yeah, TI the rapper. He got Texas Instruments, not Texas, calculators, no man. He calculated away too big people. Have you heard about this new video motion for his album. Well, we'll talk about that. I really do want to get your opinions on this because. People who upset about this, even some people who don't like a certain political party, certain political figure. Even these people like TI today, you have gone too far. All I heard he said about about Kanye. Oh, com. Basically house Novi. Oh yeah. Oh Italy. He knows. Well, true, but I will not stop there. I really want to get your opinions on this and we're gonna go through some some reasons why people feel the way they doing. Wow, I feel the way I'd do probably why you feel when you guys do the way I will. About. They. Okay. Playing. Yeah, they wrote me, oh my God. Do you drop down to your knees when you flip. No tears. When I do you wear white gloves. A little bit when you do conserve biscuits. So so, yeah, man, we'll talk about that man in more. Let me see a hope. Everything is working right now. Hope we own air. Y'all let me know on the air and I'm just going trust that we are bigger, put it out there right now that these folks would tell me, of course, I'm talking about the people ain't talkin shit right now. So if you only talking shit, usually people don't like it when folks talk shit about them. But over here, people talking shit kind of gives me a little nervous. Stream. Nobody's called an ASO going down. Says here you're not on the air. So see, that's what I'm talking about. They talk shit on the here. We're not on. Thank about it. I said, are we on the air? And they respondent no circuit. Asleep? No. Yeah, fucking my wife. What you mean? Yeah. Here they go at the fuck you cores it. So there you go. That's the shit talking. I'm talking about right there. So we're reading the one the only the check that how's it going? How's it going with y'all? And. Free. So free sodas, foolish baby. We put the title up. See that's coming in late. Started talking. Plug up now. Oh. Tarsus hashtag love, Corey, Martin, Billy, even some love right. They get used to for now. Thurs. Also tonight, but we continue. We got somebody who's coming in clear that name. I mean talking about talking shit. We, we kinda went off or somebody last week and we did. You know that person was not here to defend themselves. You can't say as on the side, but he's on the side human right now. Fume rain that you you probably going to say here, but you probably see the smoke fumes coming out. His ears was that a week ago, that was that was a week ago. Man going blur his face. Oh. Absorb. It wasn't even there. Yeah, we have TJ coming on. This is gonna be good. Good. Be here, but good to see Tiffany. How you doing man, good to see you, man, Dan, did you probably don't remember Koi good when he's been gone for a while, but his shirt is tonight. Corey can use to where their sation, right. The man that lesbian lumberjacks. Love it, love it. Good to see you leaving tomorrow to both leaving the mar, go mission, man, it'd be a Halloween, but it's good to have some like one on one time with all over there. We'll see him on the cruise. We'll see him on the cruise. Yeah, yeah. We'll talk about that. Let me got Brown Brown corn. Sammy. Carlos Carlos been talking some shit, twos. I'm not going to like what he had to say. Everything coast with a price. Computer. Fixing that computer, he talks shouldn't have nothing you can do about accepts smile and me. Pegase statements. Oh, you don't know how close you are to what he said over there. You really don't know. Dan, the chat. Fair Jeanne picked up your shirt, man put on the way. Put on the way making the room. Gesture. Eating flaps, nets. DT merge a no, no man. I it took many moving tonight. I have fun hanging out with him and good time. Yeah, had to run off and it chance to talk to more hopefully hang at this weekend's any money coming in Sunday to hang up. Yeah, I talked about that last week. Yeah. Yeah. I'm in trying to go get some barbecue at that place that you talking about, say you didn't like it. What? You know what he said that he was willing to give him one more chance. But after this think so. Martin has a new barbecue place in town. We got this place Franklins Franklins about a five hour. Wait for real. Sure. You will be. The go. Well, we ain't gonna say the name but the but the place that you were talking about. People found out that quick there was we were supposed to eat barbecue on Saturday. So I got up and I said, we're going yeoman is a two and a half hour live on shit really because I everytime I go there. It's it's a Saturday, my daughter, she she has rehearsal, right next door to it. And times I go like, okay, lines long. Okay, land, super loan. I've never seen it where it was two and a half hour. Yeah, but you know, we went to eat dinner table blacks. The other day we gotta Wayne along. Yeah, it's it's to spread everywhere. It's going to be into a point where it's going to just be quicker to kill your own Cowan. Much faster. Everybody wants to queue here. Joe's. The thing I can name three or four places where there's no line and you'd be like, yeah, no, why? Yeah. Well, also this in the games up to because of them will tell you that y'all doing hipster. Shit come to town Rudy's as good man. Rudy's Rudy's don't have no line route has. Got this. See, that's how barbecue places fucking with people because everybody want to be like a Franklin that everybody will want people way lunch. 'cause when you wait line psychologically, you ain't say shit was bad. I with you, but I had taped blacks after eating Rudy's and it's not a comparison. Good enough is good enough. If you want to wait in line by all means go to Rudy's barbecue. Go to Rudy, you know why? You know what? Terry Black's tastes good you had and it tastes bend the Rudy's. You waited a long time I went, I went when nobody was going to Terry. Black's really. That was back in the day. We've gone all right here. Yeah, back when we discovered it and they're nobody was there. And people were like spread bad word about it, and I've eaten at Rudy's the day before. Then you want to go to Terry, Black's fine. I was like, oh, shit. Rudy's headed home. Leftovers was like, I can't eat that fucking. Sorry. Oh, Terry, Black's great. Man. I remember the day used to live closer Terry Black's and I used to go there. But Wednesday with Martin we had had had a lunch, the lunch crunchy lunch bunch. And we all hung out there. Some sit mardi gras. Pepe to serve, but we go there and we just drove right into, hey, Mr., black, we hear. Hey, you guys want to stroll. Oh yeah. Back there. Manage place, so good. I, I hope they give customers so they can stay open. Well, yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was a fuck up. I'll take it. I'm thinking about spreading rumor. We're here. Exit to the pit. The one the cooks, dig in the sauce. The barbecue style Sweeney Todd. I'm stirring them during the sauce with dick man. I saw tell you don't go there when you going. I'm gonna tell you. Honestly, I don't mind. Taste good. I me with the ball. That's how good it is. 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So we're going to do since we have to do something onto a pub crawl, okay, these people and we're gonna do that at the domain Denise one and set up everything for us. Got three places we can go to. Okay. Let me know that three places. Yeah. Yeah, I'll let you pop in at some point. Yeah, it's going to be cool, so we're gonna have something planned before that. I got to figure out what that is, but it's going to be a good day on Saturday. So we'll do the thing before the putt crawling around eight o'clock. We've got a first bar barter, go to their giving us the rooftop at his place. I'll tell you about it probably tomorrow the name, Joe. Yeah, it's fun. It's fun. Yeah. I'll let you know. Yeah, it's a couple of places at a dog friendly with go. But yeah, so don't bring no dogs dog and. NCIS you're painting where seem I would just go and. Oh. Oh, yeah. Over. You know the place you're talking about because I've mentioned it on the show. I was hanging out. One place. It was kind of cool look like kind of a Greek theme bar, and then I told him. And it's not. It's pretty basically out. It was cool upstairs downstairs. It was nice. And then I told the people with said, I gotta go to the bathroom. I'll be right back and I was trying to find the door door. This x. opened up and it's like. It was all a dimension. It open. It was. Mr. dumbness grabbed him run. The white Queen. See. Fucking. Yeah. This is no one. Was I got lots of twenty five minutes walking around trying to find people. Yeah, I'm telling you, you will end up in another dimension if you alternate universe, sometimes careful man. No, it's very nice. Yeah. So we got these places plan for us where we got a weekend for the guys in the women that are coming into town. We'll try and take care of as much as we can and what else. I know there's one more than two cruise. I think by Sunday, we'll be able to put the information for the cruise. Tell you guys prices times dates the cruise line the destinations. All I gotta make a call tomorrow. Once they call is made and think we'll be ready to go. So you guys starts raping mind together because that's going to be an August that much. I can tell you and it'd be around the Mexico area. Okay. Yeah, we'll take it off here in Texas, right? Texas Galveston taking off from Galveston and gonna end up causing next? Exactly. Cozumel. Okay. I thought it might be when he's places we could get kidnapped by the cartel too late nine caused. Kidnap on Mexican pirates. Mexicans, just. Joe. From what I understand. Also, a big plus is that it won't take that many people for it to be viable so we can still do it. It won't be tour. I mean the cruise. We'll be like the Halloween party where, well, if you don't get this certain amount, we can't do it. Louis happened. I don't wanna tell you don't want five people on there, of course, but you know, we can get a good amount. Our. I'm gonna try gives me people as we can because you know, they giving us a ruined his show and everything. So nothing looks good when you trying to do something big, right, and don't know, put up, they were like, well, should are they gonna make no difference. Sure. Did they gonna make no difference? I'm not say we'll make a difference. I just don't want people worried like, well, what if they cancel it? We're not gonna council. No, no. We're not going to cancel that. We in win. You know whether we do it again. That depends on you guys do something else. That's kind of big eventful like that, but we'll see how it goes. I'm looking forward to it all you working on the next thing. Okay. All right. We're going to Mars. Twenty. Beat VIN diesel there. You need a passport. Okay. Legalize weed Oman warrants on Mars. Let me tell you what this board is. What I'm talking about talking shit talk, and then you can do about it. Carlos came. He was them vile suit me. He said, I was, I was. That I was. Was at the with the jubilee. All either boy loan, but he, he had to say, zoo three times, all of us. Booking. Exactly. Now. What I said? Yeah. He was like, I was at these you, you lost your shoe. I was. You got the flu getaway. Turn to episodes Sanford. Food. It's about twenty minutes. He went to. Winter, this as long as it took me back and say. We could've seen zoo sales. Those. Play clue. You write the down because. About, do you try to turn them down to like, okay? Yeah. All right. You know those. Important. Don't care any more. No. I had to. I had to wait that long. Went to the name. And. And the. I'm trying to protect, but he wanted me to tell you this. I'm trying to pretend Carlos. I don't think I should say this. No. He'll love it. It's going to be funding. All right. All right. Yeah. He said, I was at the zoo, and. This followed me here. This does this. This just this is just push you. House us. Oh, I was. I went to the monkey gauge in God damn. Fought me, and he said, I. In next to the next to the next to the monkey cage. They had these souvenir shop and I could not. Number store that you're old. About the the old days when you tried to start you on? Sure. Like I'm just going to say show 'cause I. I don't like to wrap. I don't. Just say, yes. With the people said, your name, your show, and he brought us back. Title what that's going to be, but it was his two of billing, but was it was shit. What was it called? Two monkeys. You show at one. Yeah. I can't remember was three months. Two months. Alma thoroughly apparently was the prequel twelve monkey. Other nine. Rosita plan the. Arises the that's what he said. I got this for you. You. Three monkeys. Mascot. He brought in three monkeys because every was. It was. Because. Says this, he bought the fullest. Wow. Thank you. That's what he thought he would take a bag next to the monkey cage and said, both get all can think of billion Cole. It is three. Makes three baby makes three. Yeah. And I looked at the most loud. To say, Carlos, that's your fun. He's like, welcome for that computer. So you you got it. That's something we would need. No, he got gang. Got me. Got me. Maybe you custom care. During the shift. He he, he. Oh, it's live. He the main before you said we are. Why did you do. You leaders l. fits small and it's it's smooth. So it's gonna be easy enough to shove. I gave it to do. Colors. Proud of the two. I what the fuck zoo anyway. That's a little kid hanging by yourself. Hanging out next to the monkey date zoo? Probably on a date and it was hard. Let me guess you didn't get. Hurt. He was looking gift. What are you doing this shopping. Shopping. I was shopping. Way would pork steak with. Says, I mean, romance girl, like getting around monkey. She by racist says, gives, you know. As you zoo, motherfucker. Of what they was. All right, strike too. Dog. The series of thought that that was, oh, I'm Tom by Raymond, looking. Looking. I'm not mad no more creepy. Scam. Gonna be looking. Helped me posited the cabbie away from this. Let's see to that. I really thought that that was Felix and there with the more. Give you a flashback to that. Was going to be one way or another look him in the. Him in the. Before we can to. The news this week, TJ man. Now let me tell you. I just want to go on the record right now that I pulled up today and sitting in the car said, I just saw light. Joanie was smoke, but he was smoking the car to sign a little light that cigarette. Well, pulled up and I saw nothing, but the white is a little. Shit. Here we go. Got out of the car. Got out of the car slammed the door. Actually came and you could hear the dog. I was taking lens caps off the cameras and turn them on, and I hear your voices out there. Out here and I was like, what does that I heard it again? I was like. Cree meet of open door Fiat. Moore, ran over money million blue commodity. He's like, what's going on at this at TD? TJ hurt shoulder, Chris, Tucker. Chris Tucker was someone to my shit. But I just record that we were talking shit week, but I, I don't know what you heard. You can't see him. He's gonna come on up here, man coming up here, what you heard, but you weren't here to get the full context context. Union. See me said that wasn't me. Voice, but it wasn't me. So you know, if you didn't see, I just want to let you know TJ I did initiate everything by saying that you had like a superhero in a meeting that you have an arch nemesis. And I said, you would like to peer to the point where this guy was like pure crazy and saying evil stalking, you putting swastikas on you wind on all kinds of stuff. And then I said, you're like a superhero because you could kill him instead you restrain yourself because I said these words are said because you are a karate master. I will give you coupling. Everybody. Just start laughing and I did not know what was going on. I defended you. I said, I why you're laughing at this man. I'll take his worry for it if he says. So I, I didn't not talk shit about you, man. I didn't have anything to do. I was the one that was compliment you. Let's go to despite whatever you heard on the podcast. Shit. I didn't know enough. Nothing wouldn't be here. We'll pull it up, but you, but you know. Every single goddamn, Tom on this goddamn so into the God inside and watching Ps. And the one time the what? Some chilling I've been busy. I can't be up in the studio. I'll get text. They're gonna, miss TJ. Ain't gonna watch wash your soda down what you mean. I'm always watching them away a little work. On the plane doing everything did not know. It was ten minutes twenty twenty five minutes just. Crows Dumbo lacking on my the attack, goddamn Tom. I'm gonna let you finish, but who is the one filling your hair with these ideas? I mean, seriously, who can't finish watching the show that they gotta stop and text you some bullshit. Even. I got. I got one about the integrity that person. I thought you starting. Here's a karate mass. I advertise that you describe me really? What's an ever. Billy. Thin. They're out there. Laughing, karate master. Got his time. Marjorie. Silly. I'm, I'll tell you what story all said. All he said was, hey, you know what? I had the -cation with homeless individual who wrote discrepancies, mop up in door, and that's how could said about myself. The karate master. No goddamn choke is has out because I make me a karate master. You have to forget, but I was cool. In my mind. I was I was I was laughing for like five minutes. I was. I was chuckling for like the other five about twenty minutes in fuming. 'cause I'm like, you know what? I'll take the teas got a high pitch. Sounds like Krista crony master to that. Come from. No, no, no, no, no, no, that's who didn't make that up. If you took a discrepancy on your front lawn, that's just clean it up man. I was going by the information. He said, calling you karate master, which I knew to not be true. I say nothing. A lot of people saying, oh my God. Oh my God. Explained the myself. When I when I say karate master, that really was me looking up to you, like you were you, you were an expert at what you do. Give you the highest form of compliments in special of training tire time. I was just like every fiber being wants to serve my thirteen foot thirteen. That's of someone's ass around here, but I was like, hey, you know, it is cool. I get ragged on all the time. I laughed it off later and then it got pissed off again. 'cause I knew I don't come into the show and I was going to have to look at all three because all y'all chuckling man, that's all if he knows karate on McCollum master. That's. I don't know. Patients safe, do not go around beating up homeless people. I want to. First of all correction, he came into my neighbor's door. He chose the wrong door. He wrote his social security number swastikas and f. off negro with, except that I said that very nicely. Okay. He was yelling and Cussing me out by some girl who I have no fucking idea. I did not sleep with the homeless dole. Fritz. Which guys insinuated to did make. We would. We second. I just said that if he was fucking with you that hard, you must have done some, but. But you. I simply all that happened was that when I woke up in the morning, a win out, he was still there. He ran up on me, choked amounts of police showed up. That's all that happened. Can you see her with think that you are trained in some sort of arts if you personnel, do you see how that works out my mind? I'm might have jumped a conclusion with. I mean, he, he got the choke, you. Get wrapped up in titles and shit. In the truth. I was compliment you I've, I was telling the story. I'm exaggerated the store little bit, but that complement was real. And then and then people started laughing at the compliment. I gave you now. I take responsibility for a lot of bullshit that I Pol on there, but that's the one thing that you were you an expert trained at a certain art and you could kick ass and that that you. You don't have anybody can take that the wrong way. You know. You are correct you you were in your own way standing up for him the whole time. You were. You were all good until the fucking end where you decided to throw that shit right back out or like karate master. He at the end of the show and the fuck you. Oh, y'all for that one. I was just so disappointed. 'cause you're the, you're the one who's supposed to be in court? I thought you tell him then people you're karate master. And seeing as he said, okay. I figured if it's true, your workout partner, Sammy would have stepped in vouch for you. And. Right, right. So say she didn't say thing. Then I knew this a real. Nobody corrected me. Police with. Called TJ. That's a great name. Called me Billy. I'd be like. Hell. Yeah, that's a great name. Come for whatever. Also, the name cool man. Animation got said about me already like anime. Combining me as a karate master fucking field day where you are going to say right now. Glowing man. It all works out. Listening. Much. You got good Lou. Whole sleaze. TJ. I'm happy to set a straight. Yes, they won't happen. This is what we needed him. That's the worst thing. No. Promise, man, we ain't gonna do now. This straight man, we realized how wrong we are now, you gotta give it no. Shit, man. I feel bad me to, you know, you got my word of man, and by the way, I'm sorry putting this on your window. I should've done this. Wrong house. This has been good for this has been a healing moment. It really is. It's been like an intervention. I mean, y'all. Been individual with one person jumps on everybody. Reverse reverse versa mention. I mean, because you got all up by anger and joking aside, you know, it's nothing but love appear, but I have to always remind because they think I'm. TJ some bitch, right? No, they think you karate master, don't fuck with you. I thought I was doing. Okay. But you good for. You since eighteen. Can we call you teacher moment comfortably? Can we? Can we? Can we walk away with at least a cool name from his kung FU TJ can we have? We got a friend. He's always wanted to call them reptile, devils, seven. We like, no, no, no. You point Lawrence. Lawrence TJ on soup. Human. I gotta say growth, that's your fault, but putting that name out there for us to take. We wouldn't never said anything. So we gotta use it. Now God need. If you hadn't essentially. Hey, it exists to me to take away from this is your new name is TJ. I was late. Awful. Yeah. Everybody. Come TJ. Starting all over again. This is divorce. He's by himself. Man. Oh, man. He's been. He's been reborn. He was so mad, you tired. Hey. 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Command, fuck there must have gotten their cartoons. I used to love the cartoon. Yeah, I used to love that too. Is this Hebrew. He's they're caught. Sorry. No. Hosemari the telephone operator. And. Mannered, janitor, old, black man, fucking dog. The only one. Wants to. Greenwich, say. Only the dog is. We gotta stop them feeling, but I serve you white folks. Be the janitor he was hiding. Hold on has always like this. Got the commendable. Dumpster bits. I need a black dog kits. Right. Let's go ahead and move on some stories this week that we got. Oh, man. Yeah, and I'm, I'm a little sad man. Never thought I feel this way about this. 'cause I ain't been into a Sears Roebuck in years. I'm talking about over not actually. That's not true. I went and bought a refrigerator and that's about it. But before that I had on say to Sears, in fact. Should do be tripping. Kiss my oh shit. I do Amazon now on walk up in those stores and Bastiat figured OSA you say, look, my grandma said bro book. They said. My grandma. That was back when I mean it's been around for a while buzzer ever since. Before the fifties, right. Or do you for that. Yeah. Into 'institution of this country. So a lot of people with various sad to hear the news about Sears filing for bankruptcy. I got this on business insider right now they talking about closing as they're going to chapter eleven closing one hundred forty, two stores. They have just closed a few right before that. And I thought about it. I fucking said. Fridge refrigerator, but I could order that on Amazon. Today delivers Sears as always wanted my go-to on black Friday shopping, mom. We need on a hole in your heart. Sears Roebuck been apart people's lives man, and you know. I don't know what was like the people in the thirties, forties, and fifties, even the sixties, but as a kid of the early seventies and there in the early eighties, you know, Sears Roebuck at the look back and I said, damn mulling, my dad. He played a big part of my life. Always there for Christmas catalog, always big ass catalog going through their stuff. You want it and dream feticide hill. Yes. Roebuck was with Sears. Roebuck the nut, let a kid. If you didn't have a daddy, Sears Roebuck was probably there for Christmas, was proud of their for for your birthday. You probably get nobody catalog, but you know. Oh, yeah, ours things dogeared pages and goal. Yeah. All right. So everything I want I put a circle but anyway. Oh. You can draw a minute circles as you want. Big kid. Zoe. Heiki was he'll dream. Dog your for you. Yeah. In the dog Christmas this shit you put down, right? If the pages off cinema fire. He got. You ask for tours. The worst it can do is say, no, no. You're yet, but asking dress you down. So what you want. Let me see below. Been my hard-earned money on that bullshit. But here's his thing, must be stupid. Okay. But so you talking about it, you say, you got some memories of serious. I'm sure you got some memories of and a lot of people damn here about Sears. Listen, even something you kids have come up later, these linear, you got some members of series whether you want to believe it or not, and I'm gonna go through at least my seven reasons why Sears Roebuck just playing Sears was a big deal for kids coming up. Nine nine. I'm talking about generation z. and bullshit and all that. Crew generation. He is. I don't know about that, but I can tell you from lineal is going up with man. You know, Sears was a big thing and. Got seven reason might and more about end of it bumps. You guys got some. I love to hear it, but let's start out with the number. One thing that comes to say, all good. I'm just saying that they were big party life in memories, and they're going to be with your whole life. Number one. From me, every Easter, your mama took you over the tires and got you. They're bad ugliest Easter suit. A seventies band. All these kids dressed like gigolos man. He's seven years old at home. Well, it's funny because it was close comeback and stuff. Cross country quick every everyone cares gotta sugar. No book you. His. Won't. All these other kids look my curtains right now. All dressed in plan. Volkswage like optical loses should. Yeah. And that's just gonna come back one day, but but you know, looking at this now I gotta tell you. They weren't usually like like, you look at this, these, these, these kids are likely like like child Burgess mill porn stars. You know. He's holiday through through all. Look like, they've got to go the head to the sentenced bucks here, but somebody order pizza. Put stereos. A used car. But, but you know what? This is. That you got it wasn't. It wasn't like that, but it was bad. It was usually the suit you've got. It was usually like some either shit Brown or it was like like these deaths Chun's number. This is back in the days when even white dues, they all dressed like black comedians. The blood. Miami vice was doing. Because you usually got some pastel colored suit, like a powder, blue, a lime, green dress usually dress. Like a bullet sherbert. Some, yeah, I had. I had a lime green leisure suit when you kid the kid. Yeah. Yeah. Your mom used to get you that suit the go to because it was cheap and she knew you weren't gonna wear that shit too. Often. That was you'll special Sunday soon in every kid on Sunday, every. I know every every black kid that went to church like me, every one of them went to winter church looking like a used car salesman. I had a Passover Sulu just like that. Yeah, I got a picture of twos, horrible. Yes, I tried to. I thought it was sharp as a tech to, you know what for the time you were? Yeah. Sure. I asked my mom today. I said, mom, I know you get some some pictures of me when I was a kid dressed up one, the muddle as she find it for you, babe. And I heard going through the pictures. I got no pictures. No, I'm not putting that out. I'm sorry. I should've done. Yeah, it was not the look look back on it and it might have been the best look before the time it fit you war from one day Easter was around there and it has it was a ritual for your mother take any. She didn't take JC Penney. She didn't take to KMart. She wouldn't. Do you like k. mart with real pro broke as people with you? Back then she took you to Sears and every series. And if you're lucky, you might get an Easter basket with the two. Maybe maybe that was when you're little when you were real little, but that's bay started a little getting you those suits. I think begging hard man, begging hard, but I think back with some fun memories to of too for me. If you were a kid coming up in the eighties and you about eight, nine, ten years old. You probably got your first consul which was the Atari twenty. Six hundred are not even tarred twenty six hundred. It was the Sears brand tar twenty six hundred. It was called. It was called Tele games. Oh shit. I forgot all about that. It was. It was actually look. The funny thing about it was power. Oh, yeah, that's the way it was. And here's the thing, get made fun of heaven, heaven, knock off, but sees me shit. This shit was like a piece of furniture. The wood paneling related wood-pannelling. Yeah, daddy got his drink on. Yeah. And you know what. Especially if you were the lucky kid to be one of the first to to get a console because there was some kids who didn't have probably as much money as you did, and they had to wait a year or so before they got their first console and they would come over to your house and they would play your gain. There was still some games. Oh, yeah. But. Who became a missing a few times. Oh yeah, we we had the project next. We would just it was just us come over there and just when they need something, they just came up to just took it. And dare to ask here. So I'm taking this right up. The middleman just gave it to me. We did. Here's my Christmas presents. No trouble. You know what I'm taking this, right? Yeah. I didn't even open it. Know what it was, but but with this it wasn't tar to his twenty six hundred game. For some reason. It was just branding for Sears. They played the same games, but for some reason, Sears made their own brand of games. It was the same thing. You got space invaders for the two thousand six hundred. You gotta for this system. Like I said, it was. It was just a rebranded console because Sears really wanted to put their stamp on the video game trend that was booming at the time opening. Now, red ribbon, then in here's bestselling video game video arcade on sale. Now for only one thirty four ninety nine our lowest price ever and don't miss the fuller storefront of in-country of ADL everyday. They steal it. Surveillance video. Santoni. If you were running your l. steal a bunch of stuff and everybody just, oh, clearly he's working. Oh, yeah, right. This one in two player, hand hill sports games or everyday low price is twelve to thirteen dollars lower than less. You. On this shit, man, this shit up the puck. No. Because that's what happened when you went over to Sears, man, you win there what your mom's even if you at the mall. Like if you were really little like she wouldn't let you run around the mall by like she'll take you to the to to to the Archady onto the, you know, to get ice cream or something, but you have to stick with her. So while she was in Sears, she leaves let you write off to the what they call the fun traffic center, which is Sears had a whole video game center. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean they had they had everything that you would want is the older version of it. So they had in the ninety still. But you know, back in the back into the eighties, Sears was a big player in the video game game all the shit. Your momma buy? Yes. This game was mama. Can we get yours? All right. You got that told you to come on. Yeah, that's why that's why you waited every Christmas because you got those two games and you played the fuck out of the those will go last you for the rest of the year unless it was a huge game that everybody got you just wouldn't shut you. Gotta ask him still. Stop. Yes. Hugo kid me. Gain won't go down. You, you have to look at. That's right. But number three for me, man, it was his his memory of a big memory for everybody Sears coming up and we mentioned already it was that Sears catalog that came through, and a lot of is when we got that Sears catalog a lot, we spent way too much time in the female underwear section. Okay. Oh, no. Oh, we look. I don't think anybody say that, but there's a lot of people before the Sears, Sears catalog, maybe you will little bit older mom, but the Sears catalog that was like playboy seven-year-olds. Sure. I'm good and beyond you come on man. Pay, Greg come clean so to speak. Billion. I quit bullshit. All right, clean today. If you if you didn't, if you like this before you got to the nasty ship. Like if you didn't have a big brother where you can find his playboy. Here at they hit the shit really well, you'd had no other resource catalogue. Chances are the first thing you checked off to some chicken abroad was Sears choice. Years, Victoria, and then play. Gated blow it all. One thing. Sears funny, this was so innocent people put this in here because that was the gateway to point. People worship that, yeah, a woman I told you this, this is what I found my neighbor. I'm not. I'm not trying to make make a joke here, but my neighbor he was down syndrome. No, he had no access access to porn at all, and he would always grab the Sears catalog and get off to the floor. Earlier, and I remember I remember his dad came in and he's like, he's sleep caught them. What? Tommy? What of what about what about. And he was he was looking at the Sears catalog and he was getting off to it. So humping the floor, he was helping the floor. He was gone and his dog dog dare told him. He's like, you know, come on this twenty twenty. You do this in very thinking early was kind of like t didn't give it just like. Okay, you're done. Got some shit. Actually gave up. Oh, no anymore. Early. He did not give us shit. What are you doing. Do you think I'll be good in the mid gut. It takes longer. When you come in. They don't give fucking playboy can do it the right way by the way you see this. You know, let's let's be honest man, this shit. We should be kidding, but don't the reason why I could say some about my man is because I did it. A lot of people did. You know what I'm above that I was not. Pof- it, and I noticed people my age are even older, who did it. I didn't do it. He's had access to real. Paul. At the tone we didn't. You missed. No, you're right. It was right there just didn't. It didn't trigger that for me grad that their catalog. Your mom think anything? I'm just looks as close. Getting. Give me especially when you got called voting, but looking for gift. Dickey. Your mama love your birthday so much. You think you'd look in this. But you know, thinking catalog now, here's what we get to what you talking about. When you were done looking at the underwear section kinda moved on. If there's anything that could beat the underwear section of Sears? It was the Christmas catalog would all the Christmas gifts toys. It was just the Christmas catalog because they put that Christmas catalog out in November. July, but yes, it would give you a preview of toys coming. We'll give you a good preview, but the thing with with the Sears, the Sears catalog, they had the right commercial, go with it if it was Christmas time because Sears knew how to sell their merchandise. Sears will put out these commercials where they made every Christmas gift that the family got looked like it was the best gift. For everyone. Will make everyone happy like cable comp appliances, a wide selection, ten fifty percent. An appliance. He's happy. Good. I was expecting food. In the fan. I mean, really everybody was happy with their gives a little bit too happy. Seven. Crooked seven food product price at just forty nine ninety nine and for grandma, pretty things like plush color may towels in a variety of comers. Ecstacy before they opened up their right to the sounds everybody sounds like or who. Ooh. Grandma. The set of those seeks brickmaker no hurt. Yeah, man. So they got you in the mood already. It was like. Grandpa look into. You need them sheets. Position you're. Thank you. Now. I got you. But once you got excited about the other gifts that's when you went over to the toy section man, and that was back in the day where they were loud to sell and you think commercials ban eighties early native for we got transformers in before we got GI. Joe are the jobs that we know. Of course, Star Wars was out there. They would sell Anthony kids back in the day and you didn't care if it was in a serious catalogue. You want it. They sold racist, ask cars generally from dukes. I wanted that. I am shamed this. I wanted, hey, man, here's laying TV show. Yeah. If it was in the look they could've. They could've could've sold a slave plantation. If it was in the Sears catalogue, you would've wanted look. Good mama. Give me the freedom land set. Kluber for slavery. Yeah. There's other toys right there, though. Transformers and everything. Yeah, all of Justice yet, this is the hall of Justice. Yep, they should did. This is before even then in my mama soon and DC headed to go going on strong and then marvel back then you know, those are the toys that you wanted. You want to superman, you wanna, Batman, the phrase back then. Yeah, and you know what? And this is what you circled all the toys that that you want to send in inspector gadget. Oh, yeah. Yeah. That toy never worked for other word really motherfucker broke every time we had three of them. Expected. It wasn't spec together, I know, but it's not supposed to bring them. I feel like you've never watched the show. Yeah, I think it's no toy. We put this brings the legs flying across the room and weeks are crying. I think it was that way. You just put it back together. They all broke. So maybe that is, but this is what you, this is what you circled all of all of the toys that you want to bring you knowing that you wouldn't even get this ever like like, you might have got a Batman or superman, but you'd better forget about that fucking holler. Jokes. The castle grace cold. Go to your your white friends house play with that. You'll go into these. Yeah. Yeah. It's a second one. The other one. Still. That man Suman grew this. I had that penguin. All kids. I believe you see, that's why you always wanna go sleep. That's why you always wanna go sleep over Todd's house because he. Sonic chaser Blake hands grant. And then when you get there toddler wanna play. You be like, fuck off. Get the fuck off. What happens is ten years later, you're older, you have money, you find those things that are flea market and you like, oh, I always wanted this. You buy it and you get home and you're like, okay, now what am I going to do it. Got them, take it back. Archie comics. Gonna have my boss shit. Look at all. I love these. In in. That was number four with the toys and in the catalog and everything, but a number five. A lot of your first. One of these was probably from Sears. That night. Closer. Outside. Releasing me, but that's the bike man. That's a lot of you got your first bike from Sears. I remember getting my first bike from Sears, and the thing was it wasn't. It was. It wasn't a coolest bike, some Louis shit late this, but who cares. It was your first. I I, it's a big deal. I bike I bike and had training wheels on it. You know you, you gotta work. You know you, you gotta work your way up to the cool bike and you would get that in time. But before then you learn to ride a bike with our first bike from Sears. Number six man for me back to school back to school. You usually went over to this. How worked out as I say k. mart was the couple of notches below Sears. So you didn't. You didn't mind like, I don't mind like sometimes didn't want to be seeing me. I'm sorry. Oh, you wanna be seen in k. mart because you know your friends, we're talking about your s and you'd be like, what? What you're doing to. Hey, that's not telling me about it. We did. This runs the whorehouse k. mart shoes. We're in a came. Both of us. Yeah. You went to came to get to the to get you school supplies, but you went to Sears for your back to school clothing, and it wasn't. They want the best clothes out there, but you would just you would just happy then you weren't going to KMart Sears back to school and learned the ABC's saving, oh, quarter ROY pants, including tough boys and girls and tough skins. That's the funny thing. Don't know about it where quarter works hipster today ain't no going gonna be seeing no quarter. ROY Moore got up. On fire. Going back to class. He thought might school again, thick as no. No, no. It's not. It's not those thick as corduroys like you used to wear 'cause they would call of skins, I'm saying, and you had to have tough skin. They would. Man. Shit hurt. Like look at this kid like Panton the girls at the most comfortable jogging pants. The value. Walk, listening, shape, kids, nuts, hurting right now, so bad. Somebody off camera right now with the fire extinguisher. Casey. You do you remember this Bill? You would try to bend your. And that tear up the back yield. Took half the school year. The break this shit in. Get your with for having. Tough skins. They heard they had him in jeans to man. I should tell you what they were tough. If you were playing around on the playground. We're not. They were tough, but you pay the price. You wouldn't get hurt. You intro for. School closed, but that kid took his jeans off. He was a skeleton. Light armor. He came feel his legs. So it'd be behind propped up. Please. And you know what? Here's the other thing. Man still didn't work all the time. 'cause serious close could actually be kind of. They could be con- generic be fashionable. It's on. The kids wouldn't talk about you, but every now and then. Mother would get and you would have to wear it. She would get you that that that that dragon dragging. Oh, you're not around the fake as is fake. I'm ROY. Bragging dragon pullovers. Twenty five percent. Would cheat because they wouldn't get you the, they got, they got you the dragon and you better way that too because I'm wasting my gut their money on these clothes, and I'm not taking it back. And it looked just like that mother fucking spend the money hospital, beat them. When I got older and I find out is actually was only wanna wear. This is that they should. I walk away. That wasn't what. Oh man. It was like, put me. Well, you didn't know do now got mother actually, is therapy m actually pulled some shit on me. She. She actually went in and had the fire removing tried to act like those alley. Baby? No. Hey, listen. Even worse because the dragon can't even breathe fucking fires. This. Giving. School lab. I single black at school. Get. My brother to aggress grandma's place, which you get rid of bunch of stuff. We had a usual suspects moment really. This has fire. The coffee. At the gate, just laughing at the dragon. Bitching looked your broker, your mama can't afford me. I gotta store at the domain. Dragon dragging. It was called the bragging drag my good, which was nothing to brag about. He's never verse psychology. They used to where they should inside out. Dragon open. They brag about. How many shirts. Cheapest. And finally, for me, I remember. Everything in your house every plans that you have? Oh, yeah, you got it from Sears. National home appliances, great settings. Many series, major home appliances, tape a hundred dollars on this Kenmore, refrigerator, thirty dollars on this contact, eight track on cassette stereo one hundred dollars on Sierra's best biker wave. Fifty dollars on this Kenmore more washer. You sound like he's a Nelson World War Two. Refrigerator. Oh my God. Oh, no. Atrocity. What. With low prices. All my. Well, Hitler not the army. Microwave chicken, not included. Meanwhile, Hitler's army are buying these appliances at low prices twenties. Yeah, it was almost like. I'm just want to ask him about, let me just move into a fucking Xeres because everything that we have in here is from Sears. In fact, their plans tight, Kenmore, that's a good brand. That's true. That's true. That's why I say when I needed a plants as I hadn't bought in the plans for years man. And when I finally had to get a new refrigerator, that old memory came back, go to see. And there were so many times we had the Sears repairman come over because we had the air conditioner from Sears. Yeah, man. It was even back in the day, I believe in the fifties you just by they say all yet all your plants from us anyway. Just take the house. They would sell a house. Yeah. Let me. Montgomery war, but to really reward you beg like the twenties and stuff like that, the build your own house, kids, whatever. Yeah, not that I would know how to do it, but, but that's the thing they sent you the kid and you, you built you on how you doing. He's got a great deal on the doom house over here. Fuck. I'm doing two planes instructions, you know, but I kiss you, they would actually show up and dump that shit out and good luck. To be homeless for the next six months. You know what you living in the bucks. They brought the half. Everybody thought that they could take the fucking shit. Seven hundred fifty three dollars how much it cost to get a house from Sears. Build it, man, you build them for yeah, def, you build it, man. If you if you the receipt will come. Yes. That's a chat. Somebody said, man, that one hurts Montgomery wards because my gummy warrants went bankrupt a long, long time ago, not around him when that credit cards and the interest rate was criminal. Oh, really? But they went, they went down? Yeah, it's been a while Yemen. They'd been in Montgomery wards twenty years. They've been gone for a while. Man been gone for a while. See them lose me. Netflix run away walking around. She would. She would just she'd awards should be walking around and I was sitting around looking around. I can't find her and venture. She Finally, I get my Asmaa. That's why it took. And you listen, I'm getting may as well as well. We'll see Sears doing over here. Last name gummy what was doing, changed their department name to electric avenue. So they kept playing Eddie grandson over. You know what Billy makes me reminds me to cause us to get lost. 'cause you'd be lately cities? She came with me. She came by me two minutes later here. Is there a Corey. The store, your mother's up at the front, please come floor and she's fucking pissed. Totally. She's not leaving. Well, my just come on. Because your mother scaring us to poor Coleman up at the front, please get the fuck out the store attention customers kosher the front shit go down. Get over man, you know it's coming. The Alpi the biggest, ask your life. With the belts. Everybody knew who you work because you'd be the only one the crown. You must be Kobe. You better get. Pays like that all around and act like Nike. But. We've been on. And ask shopping over here. 'cause that's what you do. You just pick it up lamps. The price is much. Mealey's calculators. Can you tell you. Calculating that ask. Angel momma waiting on you. You're talking about? My wife is a more in the vicinity. Excuse me. Can you tell me more about this. I can tell you about. And how that's going. The price. She's not leaving. David. Get my ass. Rundown there. Yeah. News going on and we'll guarantee. Memories of? Yeah, we'll talk about the popcorn would I remember? It was times I would go with my mother and where they had it was rather jury sex, but they also had all the food, the candy, and they had this popcorn. They would sell you smell that popcorn. Soon you got in pull you over. There was always this Red Stripe bag and remember cartoon characters, but it had a cartoon alligator. Oh yeah. You know, funny to Mars buddy skull found electric avenue, man. Oh, there it is right there. Let me see if I can find the popcorn at you're talking about. Then you know they'd have chocolate fudge by the pound. My mom would always get the the malt balls and mixed nuts, cartoon, ganders, bang. I remember they weren't cartoon catcher anywhere else. It was just their own proprietary cartoon guess. Funny, man. I can't even find them. That's a, that's a red one right there. I can up k. mart popcorn. I can't. They must've been owned by the same people because they've been the only two stores that have popcorn and icies. Is is, is that I remember that fucking sugary water as the same as a slurpee is just, I mean, they were actually identical slurpy icies the same. I didn't like either one is just this really. I love. I don't like sweets again. Polar bear. The coolest. Polar bear, like a drug dealer smells looking blue. Mean maybe you wanna sit. Let me see. I. Z. popcorn. I mean to put icy. Number park with them fake ass cartoon your momma calling. They actually the cartoon them up, but I remember when he, oh there it is shades. Well, that's, that's. That's later the old ones that's Olmert there. Which one right there? Oh, right. That's the one I remember. Hanna Barbera mini China's. Them. He's on that shit. Right there we'd go people we had done with Sears. Do you have memories of Sears at all besides. Percents asking that's value. Yeah, same. He's got the popcorn Icees and getting the Schick here, don't think of anything from your childhood from Sears. Maybe if store likes almost hitting your shoes stuck in the escalators. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. I mean they used to have these are tell you will see the stories coming true today, but these tell you back then a kid, they'd like, got his foot call, escalate and ripped us all the scandal. These stories to make a right for sure to go on at this, you may get stepping on. You might act to fool for the rest of the stuff. You got an elevated angel. St.. Mary Poppins. Yeah. Was still about Sears that they're, they're appliance department was hit. What other stuff I bought from them, like my refrigerator and my oven. Maybe come out right there if you bought the warrant. Yeah, but I'm just saying that they would come right out and take care of a good tool and outdoor section. Maybe looked a little Ron burgundy is. They're right there. Him. He's he that go get a, hey, girl. Memories of Sears. Let us know any other store like it. I mean, we all do. I have fun chance. Some memories word. I didn't know until they were talking about Sears closing so that you go, you don't know what you've got until it's gone almost on his way. Childhood Jimmy Henderson's band. All right. Let me get into this story right here. In, you know, you can. You can talk about Trump all you want to try will out there. Trump Trump Trump Trump. He, he, he's a soldier. He not a civilian. He has to end the game, but don't don't don't talk about the first lady. Don't talk about Malani she, she ain't done on him about it. She just she's just a chick on the side. Well, actually, no, you've got. Which we don't. But you don't mess with her. You leave it alone. Everybody else, but not area, but TSA I'll give I'm as everybody in her family Yang. The rapper actor and TI said, you know some most famous for his eight-man movies. Exactly. Exactly. I remember him from the black dude from atman. Doing good fight. But this right here, he's here. You know, you heard him getting Konya about kissing up to Trump and having his head all Trump's as he said the night, finish it, I'm going. I'm. Conjugate enough. I'm going for the fan. I'm going to the source and mommy and right here. He went ahead and said, you know something. I'm gonna piss all y'all today. You know, I'm gonna make a video and he did. He pissed a lot of people. Lot of people in many political -ffiliated. He said. But this out there, everybody's gonna be talking about it. It's video where you have Trump gone on vacation and of course the, he's got some going on out there so you can't take detailed. He can't take. When. She's so mad that she, she don't wanna go and TSA. That's alright babe. I Gotcha. On now. He's got a. Trump Trump. She, you know, she, she put up with a lot of things for Mr. Trump from from from from all done. And let's say, well, you know what? You need a real man. Was he clever laying? Why are they. And when he when he when ma-ma-madonna lease office, he said canyon. Eighth only represent fuck that up. He got Malanje in stripping. Him. Malania Trump did not go tomorrow Lago with the president this weekend, which has a lot of people wondering. Damn. Now, let me just say, I don't know if there's a. Version is because I'm not able to find it, but people say she got, but as make it for him. Nell. Either good job of finding a look alike. That's kinda lonely. She looked like me. This, this has pissed off a lot of people. Sure. You mean Trump's like to release the district to refute it. Deign even been a tweet about this. If my may want to go out and piss people off, sir, mission accomplished, shoot, you did. It got seen in and everybody else talking about it. So the first lady's spokeswoman on Friday said called the video disgusting and called hashtag boycott TI today I spoke to her again. The first is communications director and she even elaborated Furthermore on this like it or nominee what she said to me new statement Laker like it or not. She is the first lady and this is the White House. It's disrespectful and disgusting to portray her this way simply because of politics. These kinds of vulgar attacks only further the divisiveness and bias in our country. It needs to stop and certainly Brooke, this is a free country there. It's freedom of speech. This is obviously an artist and TI is a rapper. But at the same time on the other side of this, the first lady of the United States. From CNN. The argue both ways right here now. FOX, of course jumped on this and they bought. They bought a the Representative for maligning Trump on to talk about this situation and. To be expected? Not only did she think that this was this was disgusting because a fence to the first lady of America have you know, almost like talking about America, fending America your country, bless MRs some patriotic and not only she say in net, but she's also calling for a boycott of video here to react. Fox News contributor, Rachel Campos Duffy, Rachel, is it okay to have the first lady to picked it as a stripper even to rapidy? And I'm sorry, that's contributed. That's not the Representative. They had the Representative. Her quotes being on scene in right here. This is just a woman just don't like. Thank you. No, it's not. Okay. And listen, we've seen all kinds of things don't at this family. There's no limit to what the resistance and Hollywood will do to this family. But I really look at this at a different way and from different perspective, I'm a political spouse. So I understand very well to kind of power that the first lady's club. This is the most exclusive club in the world. That includes MRs Carter, Michelle, Obama more virtuously. Nobody gave foot from FOX or anybody his camp when he was actually splitting up families out there from their children, putting them in cages, not would no in game to reunite them. What about those families? This is gonna be alright. This family got a billion dollars all these other families. Nobody said Bill billions. Nobody's saying thing about these other people though, say nothing when they called Michelle Obama and ape going. I mean. I'm passing it to you guys right now. Please put it out this. Malania did pose for some new pitchers. That's the actual thing. So called me to- so having a fake Malania has a stripper is not all that much of a stretch. Google's shit. Let's there was a famous porno of Nalen Palin, Sarah Palin, and everybody treated that like it was a joke. So so the now differences that she was first lady, but that's a, that's a slam difference. That's that's slim to come across that. And the whole thing of you must respect the White House. When the president we have has gone of his way to go like, I don't respect what the White House. Oh, not minute I will. I mean, you should respect me, but he's done. He's he's, he's trampled over everything that was about respecting the white. Let me tell you something. I'm just going to be very, very upfront and lot of people don't like what I say. I'm going to be very four with all this, some of y'all ready to cover. But first of all, it's always the double standard. All these people are talking about when I say my racist shit. When I say my my callous things about other people different from me out of my party out of my out of my related circle. Well, you know, that's free speech. I should be able to say what I want to America. Free speech what he's doing rating. I mean, he's this guy's expressing himself. I mean, what? What's different phone? All these other people who wanna tell jokes that are non. I mean, this is not ever, right? I mean PC's Oldham's all back now. Now you wanna be when when it's something that you don't like they don't agree with and they don't agree with the fact that her her pass our man. I'm getting hotter her pass. I thought that was her. I'm tell you right now. First off. That's number one. Number two, we have a prison United States that says, horseface calls the tweeden any perceived a front tweeden bag Tong shit saying nasty things accusing people of of felonies and crimes that with absolutely no evidence of proof in just a, would you say, fuck your mother to shit like that. And yet I'm sorry, everything's been doing this family, this motherfucker. We can't go a day without hearing from his bitches. You're not a date and walked people just leave me alone. The fuck up. I mean, just suggestion. I agree with that. Exactly. I'm just saying how you feel. About the whole cat. Yeah, let's cut the bullshit right now. Let's just give really hurts people. The most right now is because you get. White wife of the president fucking around with a black ads rapid. That's really, let's be on. Let's get. Let's get. Let's let's let's be honest. Let's just say was really, really bothering people this because we know that FOX and all these people who are outright by far right? All these people they want. They try to look that one of the chinks arm of any kind of black. But they always try to look. Person look for? Did he ever rap hip-hop career? Because that's still kind of scary, right for a lot of people out there, that's not kind. Yeah. No, unless you're unless you have real crossover appeal and you're kissing the president's as you can be used as a tool, but they don't like this image right here was this straw is this is really head. This is a real headstrong rapper coming in and just laying it all out there because one of the things that's happening with this is that it's not just some black rapid re recreating a strip strip club in the Oval Office. If you really look at this, he's pointing out the hypocrisy of everything has gone on. Thank you with this administration has to do with decency, right? I'm gonna tell you like this Google right now. See if she didn't wear that coat. Seaview. Nigga picture over. Oh, I got. I live club named one of the first lady. You can find naked pictures. Titties out in through through the. Okay. Here's a shaming. No, no, no. With this video, the problem people are having with this video is that it's too close to plausibility. Picks up on a lot of real things about it. There's there's more outrage at the at the fake fantasy video of Milania having an affair with the with the rapper than it is with actual Donald Trump, having an actual fair with the stripper. Malania was pregnant at the time. It was a porn star get. All right. Yeah, both and young and get this whole thing of boycott at you because this is four is album. New album dime trap. Ain't nobody boycott nut album. And ain't nobody says boycotting is video. In fact, people you tell him not to watch. They're watching this because they want to watch it and get mad. It's free, hang buddy. To find it and get it in. They wanna watch this just out of curiosity, even people who I've gainst it, they cannot resist the urge to see what this negro did to America so they can beat more angry boy con shift. You just gave more attention to jacking off. Existed till now even talking about this, respecting her and you guys hit it. How about all the disrespect that her husband is giving her every day in the news? Her husband's her husband is out there shaming because I don't. I don't give a fuck what this woman does. I I'm not that judgmental. You can be a whole somehow make it to the White House. If you if you do your job, you made some progress. I don't share, but this man has does not give a shit about shaming. I don't. I'm not slut shaming this woman. I don't care what her past is, but Donald Trump is flouting all flouting dirty business out there and a lot of the expense of this woman. The most famous thing of course, being this whole stormy Daniels and their relationship and their relationship, and you had sex. Did you want to have sex with him? But I didn't. I didn't say, no, I'm not a victim. I'm not entirely consensus. Yes, guess a non though that this is a, he said, she said, case rate, I'm going to be fair because that's always approach. I mean, we can't prove anything but giving his man's behavior and his attitude is does kind of cast a shadow over his believability. And there's been some attempts subterfuge and and it has been proven that money changed his lawyer. His lawyer paid her. Yeah, man. The money goes for her how you case squirm your way out of this. His lawyers run around like a mob snitch. Countries and eights trying to score mentor, he'll pull out gaming. Good. Literally his. And she also says, he's not a bit. I wasn't a victim. She was like, I didn't wanna sex them, but hey, we all do shit. We don't wanna read it. Later on, we go. On full display the country to see speaking of massage and hid in is out there for him to see some say they're putting image of her in the video somehow shows her as as being a victim of the metoo movement. This is something that she says the way like, hey, you should see people see this as a way of slut shaming her bullshit by trying to slut shame herb. And another thing is that she put it out there that I support the metoo movement. If you look, there's articles out there. Looking at this on ABC news. Maligning Trump says, she supports the hashtag me too movement, but people say, really more evidence. And I believe that man because washy says that she supports the metoo movement. She gladly got with a man that contradicts that whole movement that is almost just the spits in the face of it and you and we saw that on display before this man was even president. We all had a chance to say, fuck you. Yeah, I'm a decent person, but nobody gave us you laws. We got that nigga out here. We ain't that bitch. Grab. He won't do anything, but everyone grabbing by the pussy. Do anything. Bragging about whether he did enough, but the fact that he's just kind of child is like this. Listen, I know I know that I'm willing to give any man a chance to change locker room, talk boys, but forever. He ain't change when. I'll be honest every time I wanna punch Billy Bush in the face punch. You're right, you're right. Well, here's a Bush. How disrespectful isn't how right up to how, how, how. Unladylike how I unlucky. Like for her to go see migrant children trying to make a fashion statement. I really don't care if you do if you don't. I really don't care. Do you what was what was the statement she was making? He made up some shit later about why she did that, but how about you? Just go see these kids and shut the fuck. All right. Close. Not a runway. This this. This is not Saks Fifth Avenue. You are on a presidential trip, you representing the American. You represented the president, which I don't count. Fuck, but. That is not decent to cut us some slash. She just got these shooting TI's video. Quick. But you haven't changed. And you know, and here's, here's the thing about it, man in that video. No, it's not the real men lung and Trump that's not her, but you know what? That was the real her when she was showing her titties. That was when she was she put on that. There's more than that. Oh, I know this because. On your screen. I didn't have all day. Gun. Gladly when they saw the pictures before anything happened, they gladly accepted her saying that beget her pass this first lady material come on. And by the way, some people say, will you know it's kind of cool to have a hot chick as I president, unlike that ain't a little head one show and that's like I have nothing against being naked man. But this is the part I have nothing to get. He's five. Stay a good long these today. I got nothing to gain judgment here. Red five, but I'll tell you what I have nothing against it, but this is the party of people with high rails evangelical ahead. This been not even not even. Not even Michelle Obama had been anybody that they are against. They done this. They would have been all kinds of slut Shane. Well, they're also the party of high poxy exaggerate and double standards, and that's videos out there. Remember, Michelle Obama couldn't even wear the sleeveless dresses, whether sleeveless, what I've been hope and if she just just imagine she came with address, imagine if she'd been in video. If you've been a picture, people would have been called her all kind of get a hose. It should have been a disgrace to this country. They're doing if for for this video blab. I can't wait for the bucking for part two where she actually fucks don't fuck for me too. By the way. Yeah, and I got a Arab speaking. Speaking of Michelle, Obama people are hard about this video, but how many people came to hurt to defense in the GOP when they were all kind of racial slurs being thrown away, probably only John McCain, only killing cans, but like where was where was Trump speaking up against? Maybe he did if he did know, I'm gonna tell you right now. What about Carl palladino his Trump allies from the New Yorker. He said this about Michelle Obama. Let me see if I can find it right here. The comment said, pleased. His able, you're adblocker. He says, let me see here. He said some bus in hers back to Africa. Back into a cave, her back to him Bob way. Wish I could find is here somewhere. Let me see. You see it anywhere. I can't believe this man. Oh, let me see. Oh, she would dive mad cow. He would die mad cow disease. And there was a lot of worse days that he said. He said that that she should go back to being a man and go back to Zimbabwe and living cave. This is Trump never spoke up against this at. Are you spec somebody to speak up? Fucking Trump is his wife, fuck the both of nobody said anything about that. That was not many people know. I mean, I'm not saying nobody, but a lot of people that are talking a lot of shit right now. They didn't say shit, Sean Hannity saying about FOX FOX and Francine. If they know they're like, well, maybe he was. He was misunderstood. Don't we? Because you know she does cave in Zimbabwe. Well, plus Trump has been the one who's been so antagonistic with everybody in the media, not just the press, but everybody, everybody so you can't be antagonistic. And then when people respond to that goal, hey, come on. Why are you taking me? And the first lady should be protected like maybe I mean, it would be the courteous thing to do, but the children are protected because they didn't ask to be part of this. The first lady knows what she's getting children get high old. Okay. The rest of them just jumping out, I'll tell you something they talking about disrespecting the Oval Office. Y'all's memories that short, it was just a week. We wanna talk about disrespect that's set anything. Any Oval Office is, but it was just days ago the Kanji was in there in the Oval Office talking all if his crazy shit. University alternate universe. So it's very important to me. Brennan's like I wish I was an alternate universe. This is in the Oval Office in front of a press conference, making a fool of himself as long as he's kissing up to the president tied him. My dad ended up, hey, you know, this is this is a. Kuhnen. Yeah, it talking about disrespecting the Oval Office man what they called a media circus in the office and have him there to talk about the issue actually talk. But like he knows a fucking thing about. Yeah. Integrations interviews. You don't know what he's the Konya in their Babbel's. And the thing. Trump knows that he was bad when he just wanted it. For some reason, his mind he, he was just hoping win over the few ignorant black people that he could because he got kind you swinging from his nuts. Yeah, let's let's just call the ship for what it is man low for TI maybe maybe this is debatable like maybe that is our is arguing making argue that to me, but but you know what. But Malanje Trump people say, I feel really bad for. I don't feel the fucking thing, but she chose to marry a guy. Now, here's my personal opinion comes in and she chose to marry guy for power and money and citizenship incident. He and citizenship for her in her fan cannot tell me she found attractive. Sorry. Maybe his his money was a thing where she actually fine. I mean, you see pictures of when he was younger. He wasn't. He was actually a handsome guy. Yeah. What the thing about Trump is that he's attitude actually, he was very cares medic. Yeah, his his, his, his, his charisma made him even more attractive to some people I get it. But I think that I think that at the point she married him. I think that there was a power plant, say, young, he's married Ivanka. I'm talking about ten eleven years ago. We say when he was younger. You know, I don't feel I don't feel bad for this woman. She married she, this is what she wanted. She got it. So that's, that's that right there, man. What all this thing talking about. He's low. What's what? TI did our? Is it lower. What his his supporters claim to be moral people in evangelical is low of them to overlook all the lies and deception his questionable behavior, his his, his morally questionable behavior, and just the low decency brought to this administration. I mean, nobody is that is that honestly lowered not as low to you is what data te'o? What worse? Because if that is your priorities wrong? Well, maybe everybody's just really overlooking the obvious that TI has a huge crush on Malania. He's wants to show her how he feels. Yeah. And also TI's not the president United States, so he can make a social. He can make he can make an artistic statement if he feels like exactly and he's not. He sends, let's teach them the tweets and the president. I think I don't think any celebrity sends anymore tweets than Donald Trump. Yeah, he's up to what five six day. Yeah. And I don't see anything about this. All of my braces. Freedom of speech. So he goes about going to jail for it. They if they want to call a boycott, they're free to do that. You read like, you want to. That's what that's what America's all about. You react like you want to to this and I'm not gonna say word because that's the beauty of what this is. Everybody has the freedom to say what they wanna say about video and that's fine. My reaction. This is all of. I react and I can tell you right now that this, I think the video while create creatively. I got a great looking look alike. It might not. It might not be the height of creative genius, but it does do something great point out the Packers of the people who complain about this very thing right here. All these people choose to either ignore a rationalize. Every indecent thing happened right here. So this means nothing to me and absolute nothing special. We got some evangelical right over here and I'm waiting for them because they've tracked down a couple of people have come here and I'm waiting for them to say some shit to me because evangelical, if if you voted for Trump, you can't say shit to me or anybody else about morals because you've got the most crooked morally bankrupt. Fuck in the White House right now. I can't wait Kush, edgy. Here's the thing, but he's not even evangelical. Now thing you don't care about the bible. He was like, he was like, what the hell is this? When they added. Doc. You started order Meg you at a restaurant chicken, two Corinthians. Yeah, I'll. Yeah. What the hell is job. About this job. Oh, man. Appetizer. This is. Nothing. Not a God damn thing. Get over. Fuck getting to not to over cook my steak. See we got here. The smell was coming here. We got real quick gotta do starts wondering they're getting. I did not do. Sure. Now. Go ahead and bringing over. Coming on as him money. Sammy got the got together. Let me go ahead and bring you in Sammy. We all got our winter clothes on right. Fuck out there. Man. And I didn't. Cold pre-cold before I got here on this. I'm trying to get. Let me see here. So the movie that we're gonna be talking about a lot of people praising his film talking about. I man came in third place at the box office that weekend disappointment lobby without is going to be better. But it's been getting a lot of great critical reception. Sure. First man to walk on the moon, that'd something. We've chosen a job, some difficult requiring so many technological developments. We're going to have to start from scratch. Put to sleep back. Wake me up when they get to the moon. Six. Everybody thought it was gonna be big hit because of Ryan Gosling. And he's teaming up again with Damian Chazelle LA, La Land. Also, one of my favorite movies whiplash. I love the director, but I have my complaints the full price, but I don't think it's gonna be on my best, but I did appreciate the moving market Martin's. Fuck that movie Mars. It's too boring. Ron Gosling got no expressions. He just being. Crohn's Ryan Gosling and except for the fuck that movie part. That's pretty accurate to what I. Got a spice it up. Met name maddening. Nothing is a bad movie by any means. So I'm kind of curious to see what people thought being that we didn't think the terrible film, but a lot of people side and we're going to go with to star dust. Start us is the app that you can get four iphone for your Android and whatever you do get it through l. ING starters, that app link forward slash double toasted going there and they got the little play button right there. Little record button, you press it. You get thirty seconds to tell people, but how much you love our hate. This movie, this trailer is TV show and send it out there and you are influencing the media. Let's go ahead in and also remember the tag said toasted. Now let's go and get into a first reaction rate. Here's somebody loved is Martin Playfield clay film, one hundred looking. He can't wait to tell the world about this five stars. I man is nothing short of a technological marvel. It's one of the better directed films ever seen is just breathtakingly gorgeous. The mute. The way they use sound in this movie is truly incredible because it really adds to everything happening because sometimes if you can't see shit because Armstrong can't see shit. So the sound of really make up makes up for everything. And when you do see some of these visuals soap, breathtaking, I loved this movie and is the second movie I've ever seen. On a plane. Fetal. Yeah. No, you know, this is this is something that I felt about this myself. I thought I thought that the use of sound and it was good. So what into commend him? I like the way I see a lot of people rushed through their reviews. I know they walk in Russian money talk. He said his as down. He took his time. Use that thirty seconds. Well, I mean, I, I panic when do start us after. That's I had trouble doing because it takes me thirty minutes. I do about sixty takes. Pack. He's the stand, the Kubica start. I gotta get my special effects as right. Post production. This is it's good. It's good. Annunciation a lot of passion for it. I, I only wish rank Gosling shown as much emotion they should've cast him. I think a lot of people appreciate like, do they. Appreciate us so many movies that lay on a heavy score. They lay on some heavy dramatics. I really didn't mind how quiet this movie was points because after a while it did work with the theme of the Edison. Great. Sound design. It sounded considering he did to musicals essentially for the last two movies he did so might have been good for him to pull back a little bit on sound. That's a great point right there. Let's go ahead and get into use the drum solo. On the moon day. So this is another one, those white people love it, black people hate it. This is. Two reviews and I split them in half so you can get the best. Okay. This is. This is. Your average muse says the people's eyebrow. Got that rock opera. He's he did not like this. This is part one. He gave it one star. Sorry, I'm just not a fan. This movie was too slow, but what really irritated me the hype is party supposed to be him landing on the moon. And when we finally get to the moon, I wanted to get off the moon because staring at dirt. Great. The whole time. Derring do something you're partners at least prancing around. That's what I'd be doing. But you just there. That's the thing actually. I said the move, he got to the mood was shit anti Mexican. You can do this. Gripe. Great, great dirt, right. Moonen dirt. I love this. On the moon and moon something. That's what I'm doing. Do something. Answer here. A love this love this. This is Ozzy. Nerd gives it three out of tune is an Oscar by a pick. Melodrama isn't science. Porn let the Martian like I wanted exposition on. We need to get these calculations, correct. Otherwise, we come to the thing I wanted. Girls from. Meal drug. Australian off making a point. I like, I think. Let me see. I think. I actually give what he's saying because I think I kind of had a similar point that straight stated the same way that he did on print girls from. Hidden Figures to be here. I wanted this to be more science based, but it's not. It's melodrama and Oscar, bait and stuff, and boring. I got it. He okay. I see what it was that that attracted me to it because he was saying how it's not science porn like the Martian. Actually, I didn't like that in the Martian where they kept stopping to have characters. Do exposition, explain everything because it was obvious like scratch. All right. I'm explaining to us. I can explain these. It. On on. I liked it that that I didn't do that and you know what else he did that he's talking about that. I think we both appreciate it. The movie for we sent, it's kind of pared back. He in this notice that we talked about how even though it's the movie with some money it, it's not very flashing. He wanted like not only size, but he wanted the numbers to fly on a screen while solving equations, you wanna how how the ladies from the Hidden Figures came and figure that shit out while he was trying to do this. He wanted to. It's like he didn't like the things I did like he wanted to like the visuals from Hidden Figures in beautiful my over. Exactly. Yeah, they're kind of thing. Yeah, but you know, that's that's a good warning for people who going in expect more blockbuster feel true. So that's a valid point, man. Yeah. I'm saying, I didn't feel that way, but I'm going back to say like, oh, you're wrong for that. No, it's good out there. Get people's expectations to where they need to be. This is the fifth turtle says not perfect, four out of five stars Damian should. ELS, I man is a really well made just looking movie visuals and the cinematographer you're absolutely gorgeous dri acting from Ryan Gosling argument, one of his more emotional deep movies, even though it does like a history lesson at times, it's still really well done in entertaining. They're funny moments. It's not necessarily my favorite movie this year, but it's I really enjoyed this movie. It's a great movie just I love it, almost there with me, but just say some as much love round, gossiping, do not think this was a stretch. Moons. Brooklyn accident. Actually was a little bit. Someone like a gangsta. But yeah, Ryan Gosling. He's got to be quiet in looking crown q. Honestly, think like this. It's not like the movie movies, well made. I think a lot of what's going on is that it's Damian Chazelle and people that comes with that kind of clout. That makes me. We'll tell them to convince themselves. They like it more than they actually do year. I don't like to soon too much. We don't know, but Martin I get that feeling too. Yeah. This guy who has been loved by the Oscars for the last two movies that he's made. And that already comes with some expectations. And here's the thing if you make it halfway there or if you make something that seems authentic, which it does. Yeah, he's really doing something that's not that not. Not a studio movie are he's a hired hand for studio. He's making the moon movie that he wants to make right the with the Tony wants to make it with the theme that he wants to make it. So it seems very sincere. But I think the critics coming in and thinking old, the guy from LA La Land. He's the wonder king that the wonder kid and we we, of course, we appreciate and maybe I didn't enjoy so much, but that's on me because because clearly he knows what he's doing. And I know everybody else is gonna love it. So it'd be the one who's sitting here saying, yeah, wouldn't great or it doesn't even come close to his first movie ever tick. Ever tick. No, really? Get that feeling. Sammy, maybe. I don't know, man, because the movie I saw lowland love that. And so I kind of think that people are trying to give credit like, you know what I think of when I think of this movie Ian because Ian loves law land. He loves. And so I'm thinking he'll probably go into this thing like, oh, yeah, this is good. This is good stuff and maybe a bit blind to that. So I can kind of go with what you're saying. All right, then. Well, there we go people. That is our started segment all the reactions, lot of different reactions. So I think he probably got a well rounded review from these people starters of what the movies like just one of the benefits of going, but also another benefit is putting your own review out there. 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They say that Hoff was found unresponsive and not breathing inside the business. The thirties say, there is no indication of foul play hall owns a handful of brothels into the only state that allows them to legally operate. He was also public candidate for the handful and properties were Lamar own was all meth, Dow, that's where they found. Yeah, yeah, that's right. It's all about. Lamar Odom that. On one of his out downshifts everybody wants to know of fucking. Sounds like. Yeah. Hey, that's the way to go fucking cocaine. Jones. Oh, let me see here. Hello, DT crew. My question is what would be perfect for people to read play our watch. That would be perfect for the month of October PS. If you already answered, please tell me and I was stopped sending this that before. Okay. I'll just say because I'm probably going to be part of the main review, Halloween, the new one. I mean, I'm excited, say what you guys want to say about it, but I'm pretty sure you want to at that to go see, probably Halloween, you can say, say, the new Halloween, I don't really. I'm not really into October too much because it's like I always get Holly my birthday mixed together. So she's like halloween's, whatever. But I like the, I like the new thing that we saw. So I mean, they'll talk about it tomorrow, right? Yeah, we're talking about. So you know what the new, how out and that's your list? Yeah, new halloween's coming out a lot of people talking about it a lot of people. Hi, four has been getting good word of mouth and. Trailer right here right now we just saw tonight. I am that word of mouth now because I'm like, scary, movies, kind of scary move every they don't really have all whole whore things. I really my thing. I don't go to be scared. I mean, I'll start punching horror nights can ever do that like six flags when they have all those people costume and stuff because punch them. Not all that I've been and I get scared. They're not all that same. I'm real trigger happy, so I don't like people sneaking up on me jumping on people sit and and so like I'll punch like the actors and it's not fun for anybody. Absolutely void avoid all kind of scary things, but I enjoyed that. So. We had to investigate patient kill three and teenagers. It was shot by interest taken into custody knowing and spent the food. In captivity. Hello, michael. I have something might like to see. Don't do that. We got him calm down. Do. No, you don't. Got you. What does. What is your? What would you review? Oh, okay. I'm allowed to do it. Then. I don't like or movies. I even reviewed the last one last week and it was a lot of fun the first one, but it's a little dated. This one, I don't know about the other movies. I never saw those, but this was a lot of fun to watch as a sequel to the second one because it goes, you know what? Ford. I for the first ones are, yeah. So watching that you're like, okay, that's pretty scary thing for Lord have gone through. And then you see kind of think of. Think of flash forward to the forty years. And then he sees a couple of flashbacks man. This really fucked with this is really a defining moment her live and it treats horror movie as an event, like a traumatic experience, kind of like only assault or something that'd be would keep with them forever and have it influenced the rest of their lives. So with that perspective, it's a really interesting watch and it's actually really fun all throughout. Apparently there's references to the other movies that I didn't catch, but the best part about it was didn't emphasize anything. So if I think I missed it and that was on me and everyone else got to enjoy it when they saw it. So yeah, I really, really, really enjoy this movie probably more than I thought I was going to. So what makes it to the. A movie that you enjoy it when you don't like hard movies, what made this make pull you in and not push you away? Horror movies cheek. A lot of ones I find that they're cheap. They us. Buki loud noises are rape, scene gouging, eyeballs, or do something really explicit. And this would never really does that. This one goes, okay, we're gonna take our time. We're gonna go ahead and set everything rebuilt the the world that we're living in and. Earns everything that gets eventually and probably what it does better than the first one which people may not agree with me is that it actually gives you some pay off a little bit earlier. You're not waiting long for something to happen. So you get a little bit attention a little bit of pay off a little more attention, a bigger payoff, and it just keeps escalating to where you get a really nice inclusion. You really get a really nice feeling and then you kinda get the what's going to happen next, who knows? There's everything happening, so. Okay. Get with any any other of the movies, the rating, this would be a whole full price. Absolutely. And I know probably there's gonna be some people that are real sticklers for the series. But nah, this is a full price movie for me, and people are should make this like the highest grossing. One of Tober, fuck venom. This should be the movie that makes the most money. Nice. All right. I really liked it. I really do venoms your Trump. Yes. That we're better than that people already did say, fuck man. Folkman making money all the money people say foot Benham, but because difference. Yeah. Should all. Oh. Hundred eighty million. Y'all talked about it. I was like, that's not good. Oh. Making money, then turn it around. Hopefully this, this really gets people excited. Get excited. Go see. It be excited because I liked. Cooper, green devil. Another Halloween show got cancelled and such. But I figured I still come through for small vacation. I'm coming on coming in on the twenty six. It was hoping I could get the location of the new studio. Yeah, of course. Of course, I'll help you man. So they, we go think that is dead gone out of here late. Show us shit show the twenty. Fifth, I'm so people are coming in that Wednesday Thursday. So yeah, I'm doing a show. Are you doing show Wednesday the movie review as regular, so there you go. So so as you come in early, come to court show Dr show. So on the twenty fifth, this Thursday that Thursday. Okay. All right. Yeah. We'll time saying, okay. Yeah, we'll be doing on Wednesday, so good. And then you'll have show Saturday. That's the plan right now. I'm going to see. I have to check check and make sure. All right. Well, let's going out of here is late tile at both the girl with with all the gifts. Fantastic, Lennox. Good right now you got to watch it. Yeah, so faithful. Yeah, Martin is read this book about to get out of here, but Martin is book. I'm gonna show y'all. The girl and you can get the girl with all the gifts. Let's Netflix. I thought. So I thought maybe Dalo to somewhere. But this is the zombie flick, but it's is obviously with the nice little twist with design visa actually children in that they well, there's a lot of these, but they got these news ambi- who are they. Endure intelligent. They don't even know that there's obvious. Yeah, in the only bad thing about them is that then telling than nice, respectful, but you got lock the lasts up because the moment they smell blood, they go crazy. It's actually a smell. Your fair Mon, you sweat. Yeah. Like if you're a human around and you have to spray yourself, he's getting them shakes. Yeah. Tell you as some. Hey, come to a low Melanie. They were first the races? Yeah. Time. That was a woman. Flo an amazing woman in the world. Please. Children. Want it. I'm a good kid. I want that. Good. They do reverse some things in the in the in the movie, change the race, a little girl, but it's a great book in the movies, very faithful to everything. It's one man is one of those rare books where everything you kind of magin how it was they do okay in the movie because read the book, it's very visual and it doesn't do anything. So. He thinks. I couldn't imagine them like they can pull that off, but it's just it's just the length of it. I was like, that's a lot of stuff to pack into movie nuts. They do it. They'll manage to do a very good job at. I'm sure they cut back on some things, but they don't acting job at it. Now you need to tell you. I didn't realize Glenn Close was Philis plan the doctor? Yeah, that would have changed the way I was visualized. And if you like thoughtful, apocalyptic, horror, movies, you should check out our books. Check book Burbach. I mean people. Yeah, Burbach says, okay. 'cause I always think I don't want to an apocalypse movie apocalypse story, especially with zombies, but I kind of fell into that one and it was like, I love this. I was on a whole streak of his reading these apocalyptic novels full while in. Rare one call the firemen, which is actual fantasy, but it's cool and then read the book Burbach and you really one the most unique books that I've ever world shit negro all year. This is narrow does say. I don't know if you guys realize this Brennan, you realize this, but. What do you say realized are are affected, but a few on my rain. So I don't know if you guys realize are affected. But in a few weeks ago, some people who initially cancelled movie pass was secretly Rian rolled as part of a special group. Check your statements people haven't you Mark. No, that was somebody Nassib. Okay. Well, you might wanna check it then because I've heard this happening too few people. Okay. All right. Let's go on out of here and movie. The movie is on Netflix. Okay. Thing to say was somebody brought up a good point for double toasted. So apparently I don't know if you experiences. I think we're in the movie, but due to wind down for like our, he's talking about what they said, didn't go down. Six ninety nine. No, knock have had all that. Goodness. The blackouts we not go out. Hon always go down. You make a good point joking, but you make a good point. That's one of the benefits we could easily go down to. Don't don't, but it does. The thing is we go down. It's more control when YouTube went down. You know, we still had thing. You never know when air policies will change. You never know when they would be mama where add add revenue just goes through a crash. You never know when. A tech technical problems out of your control. So there's a rumor that apparently cursing on YouTube is going to lead to being less monetize. So. I hear that too. Man. Yeah, I don't know. Fuck shit. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. 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The Radical Catalog

On The Media

17:42 min | 2 years ago

The Radical Catalog

"On the media supported by target, presenting future at heart. A new podcast about change makers who are keeping the future at heart. Each episode presents a cause and explores it's important for the community and future download future at heart on apple podcasts or wherever you get your podcasts on the media is supported by ADT liberty. A podcast produced and distributed by the ACLU every week at liberty explores the biggest civil rights and civil liberties issues of our day subscribe to add liberty on itunes or wherever you get your podcasts. Listener supported w in y. c. studios. As we've heard this week after over a hundred and thirty years Sears filed for bankruptcy and is closing one hundred and forty, two of its struggling stores. But before it was known as a brick and mortar business, it was known as a catalog that reflected American consumerism shaped American tastes. Louis Hyman is an economic historian and professor at Cornell university's school of industrial and labor relations on Monday. He tweeted in my history of consumption class. I teach about Sears, but what most people don't know is just how radical the catalog was in the era of Jim crow. We were intrigued Lewis. Let's begin at the local country store in the eighteen ninety nine thousand nine hundred. Most African Americans were still living in the country, not until nineteen sixty are more African Americans living in the cities, and they. Lived as sharecroppers. They lived as tenant farmers. And when they shop they shopped at the local country store that was a place that gave them access to a wider world of goods access to credit, which they needed because they were only paid once a year during the harvest came and just like white farmers as well. But they had a very unequal access to the space, of course, is the era of Jim crow, which started in eighteen ninety in Mississippi. Describe how that plays out in the real world. The trick with Jim crow was that it was everywhere all the time and when African Americans will go into a train station into a country store anywhere. Really, they would have to wait until all white patrons were served. I when they were eventually got help in the store. Now it's important to realize that the country store wasn't like stores today where you serve yourself. You go from two, I'll everything has to be done by clerk at the counter who decides. Whether or not you actually deserve what you're asking for because it's all in credit. So this shopkeeper decides if you're the kind of person who should have that quality of shirt or not, and African Americans didn't really have much choice. This is the only place they could shop get credit. So it was really a constraint in every interaction was a rehearsal of Jim crow, rehearsal of hierarchy and deference and treating black people like they weren't quite as good as white people. And I was reading a piece in the Washington Post aware. They talked about. White supremacy playing out in the way that you say you didn't deserve the good quality shirt or the good quality flour at that point. In fact, it would be disturbing to think that a black person could have something in their home. That's as nice as what you have in yours say, and it's this sort of ritual this this play and clothes, and food and hats, and everything else that really is what African Americans saw as so liberating in access to the catalog. Right? Because prior to the catalog, there was only the country store, right? It was a monopoly. There was no alternative, and suddenly you could order things out of the catalog on credit just like at your store and they were cheaper and they were better. And most importantly, they were just as good as anything else that a white person would get out of that catalog. And I think it's important to note that. That by nineteen o eight one fifth of Americans received that catalog. The podcast ninety, nine percent invisible cited a figure that suggests that at its peak, the catalog offered a hundred thousand items on fourteen hundred pages, weighed four pounds. And I I wasn't around in nineteen. Oh eight. But I was around in the sixties and I remember I was excited when that catalog came fighting traffic. When you shop make you all your talk, what an end to traffic fears, it's very easy to get to choose and it could take many hours. You could leave it in the bathroom and just sort of browse it forever. Maybe that's too much information. Which is imagine if you had never left that plot of land in your entire life. And you opened up this big fat tome and you could see what people in Chicago that faraway town were wearing an eating and buying for themselves and just imagine yourself in a different world. And this is a time when for African Americans, imagine Chicago was politically dangerous act that Chicago defender. The one of the most important African American newspapers in America was contraband in the south. You couldn't get it legally and if he smuggled from person to person from church to church and a lot of ways the catalog was like that as well. It was some sort of a radical imagination outside of the life you were told you belong to and you would always have it shifted. The power shifted the power, and it meant that you know, black people could say, I'm just as good as you. I addressed the same way. I eat the same food. I can have the same kinds of tools. I can even buy guns if I need to buy guns, which you know meant a lot in the era of the clan. So this is something that is a pretty amazing intervention. You know, it's it's a very conservative impulse to a get the right to spend my money in capitalism. Right. How do you argue with that? Yeah, yeah, yeah. How do you? But at the same time, it very radical act when you're challenging a white supremacist order. Now you'll observe that the catalog was geared towards illiterate people whether they were Swedish or African Americans. And so this is really more about a rural clientele than specifically about a racial issue? No, there was a business reason. They were trying to sell to as many people as possible, doing volume business at a distance in rural America where most Americans live. Most Americans lived in the country until nineteen twenty. So this is trying to break the mold of all older business models, and they did it the wash. Sheehan post pointed to an article in the libertarian reason magazine. You know what I'm talking about how Sears has been credited with the creation of the delta blues. This is quite a claim. Historians have talked about this that access to guitars. Zeal, cheap, affordable, high-quality made this possible, and I didn't know that story myself. But you know, it seems entirely possible that access to know guitars are expensive. So you know, and you know what a rich history to think about this sort of cultural creation that comes out of this catalogue. You described. We talked about a shift of power how the general store in a place which often also functioned is post office would sometimes refuse to sell money orders to black families and Sears. Understood that too. Right? Absolutely. So there was a huge problem where you know, how do you submit an order? How do you receive an order when the store is also the post office and white store, owners were very serious about maintaining control. So what Sears did was put out orders that you could just talk to a postman you could describe the post office entirely. They were all kinds of ways to subvert that system. If the postman was willing to get access to this national market in those national posts, and it was true for African Americans. It was also true for other groups that had a hard time accessing the catalog as well. People who didn't speak English people who were illiterate. Whether they were Swedish German or whatever. You know what really shocked me was how acknowledged the subversive power of the Sears catalog was that they were bonfires of Sears catalogs in places? Absolutely. They had public bonfires. They set it all kinds of reward systems. If you turn to catalogue into headed destroyed, you know this kind of system of trying to defend Jim crow in the name of small business, but I don't get it because plenty of white people majority of the subscribers to the catalog wore white. The small shopkeepers would have preferred those catalog shoppers shop at their store as well. So there was a business side to it. There was a racial side to it, and it's hard to disentangle the two. Now, EPA time, there was a rumor that both Sears and Roebuck cutthroat. We're black reminded me of antisemites claiming that Franklin Delano Roosevelt was Jewish Sears himself published pictures of himself to prove that he was white. I assume that this was purely a business gesture, right? Yeah, it was a business gesture. He white people could be convinced they shouldn't buy from black owners. But I think the larger question is it shows you how desperate these people were and how radical the catalog was. And in that moment, especially as the way a contest is the racial water, which is really interesting also because it was back in eighteen ninety five that Roebuck sold his share of the business, and Julius Rosen walled became part owner of the company. Julius Rosenberg, interesting character because he. He was a small time suit manufacturer and one day Richard Sears walks in and orders, five hundred suits and he's like, what are you talking about? You could never going to sell them many, and he says, I already sold them. I am. So that's how they got into business together and Julius Rosen walled really helped him expand the business and helped him scale up. And he was a huge philanthropist to the black community donating more than four million dollars roughly the same as seventy five million today to open nearly five thousand schools in the rural south where many African American kids couldn't go to school separate equal was never equal. Several equal was always better schools for white kids. And these were schools that were good for black kids. And you know, it's, it's interesting to Julius Rosen walled was was Jewish and he had a much more liberal political persuasion. He had this feeling of Alba. Gatien to America a country that had been good to him. What other things did you learn from the the tweet? I saw that a lot of people share their stories of shopping while black, especially young people being watched and stores, but also people who are trans talking about having access to close that maybe didn't fit their perceived gender identity and having that kind of lack of surveillance. So I think in a lot of ways, Amazon today is very much like the Sears Roebuck catalog of yesteryear also in the way it employs, you know, cheap labor, the Sears Roebuck catalog, the goods in it were made possible by the sweatshops of Chicago, right? And immigrants being exploited. So it's not just sort of an unambiguous story of positive positively, but it is a story of access. And I think that's something to consider as we think about what digital capitalism means in the twenty first century. What does it tell us? I think it tells us that there is real value in having. Access to markets, particularly for people who are confined spatially or economically certainly in the long history of America. African Americans have always been spatially segregated from other populations and their financial and retail lives reflect that. So you know the classics study from the sixties, the poor, pay more that African Americans didn't have access to the same kinds of goods that white suburbanites had. And this drove a lot of the wealth inequality then and today, some twelve thousand retweets of your original tweet as of this conversation, I'm sure they'll be more lots of interviews. Why do you think it resonated so much? I was surprised. Obviously, nothing like this has ever happened to my tweets before, and I think I tried to tell a story that was positive. The story of how people simply used the cat. Catalog to fight against white supremacy. And did you find that at all? Ironic, as a historian of capitalism, a student of capitalism, you've probably spent a lot of time staring down some of its fundamental flaws in injustices, and you observed that democracy has long been constrained by racism. Is this a case of capitalism to the rescue? Certainly a case of market competition to the rescue would surprising to me as a historian is that Jim crow, face-down consumer capitalism, and Jim crow lost and in the first Civil Rights Act, it wasn't about voting. It was about consumer access. It was about shopping how so will the first Civil Rights Act of nineteen sixty three equal access to stores equal access to stores, equal access to trains equal access to restaurants and hotels and movie theaters. I think for many of my students when I teach this class, it's easy to. Not really care that much about voting vote every couple of years, but every single day use the bathroom every single day you go somewhere and to think about, oh, dot is what Jim crow, it's an everyday kind of thing. It doesn't really bother you that Sears is falling apart, right? I'm in its survival of the fittest. Amazon did to Sears Sears did to the general store. That's true. I mean, it bothers me in the sense that I worry for the workers, hundreds of thousands of workers at Sears that are going to lose their jobs. But I do think that it's part of a broader reconfiguration of retail and in the next few years, we're going to see that happen that the book just released was largely about this reshaping of the American landscape and the insecurity of work. And I think that's the story that's here even as we want to focus on the consumer experience. We should also be focusing on the employee experience. I mean, it may be that we all end up shopping at one company for you know, the next couple of generation for generation. I mean, that's sort of interesting. I mean there also is a long history of how chain stores took over. I the catalog than the chain store in the mall. There's been this succession of different kinds of retail in American history. And right now we're just at another crossroads and so I think we shouldn't limit the death of one kind of retail. We should figure out how we can make this new kind of retail. This new kind of economy work for everybody, not so much worried about a new kind of retail as I am about one company dominating all retail online, and I say, this is someone who has a prime account. Yeah. Yeah, no, I think there are people who are very concerned about monopoly and monopoly and my not cine monopoly is where there's only one buyer as opposed to only one seller. So in America, WalMart is a monopolist. They're the only buyer for a large swath of Chinese factories. They can drive down prices and control then. And so we actually live in a monopoly economy right now, so Amazon WalMart, and we're not talking as much about that as we can because it's such a strange word. Love it. Thank you so much Lewis. It's my pleasure. Louis Hyman is an economic historian and professor at Cornell University school of industrial and labor relations. His latest book is Tim, how American work American business and the American dream became temporary. 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BOX121: Strangling The Bishop

The Box Of Oddities

49:59 min | 2 years ago

BOX121: Strangling The Bishop

"What follows may not be suitable for all audiences. Listener discretion is advised. Inch four stories. Stories of mysteries. Curiosities? Jeez. Jew in and Joe through Gilligan tov for the strange. The unexpected as the bid and also sleep you're inside the box oddities. So it's raining again, which is fun. I like that especially since there was that one day where it was nice cold Saumur. Yeah. In the state of may. And now, it's fall. Oh, good. All the first week of may. It's pretty good. It's right. If it's followed them, it's really close to our our upcoming shows, which I'm very excited about and we've been working on for the last couple days getting everything settled and the tickets for the Boston show are on sale now, which is super exciting and just moments ago Nashville went on sale, you can find the links on our social media at this point, Charlotte could be any minute. We'll let you know soon as as soon as that happens won't be long tall. So in the last episode, we had talked about, well, I started this tangent about how you have an amazing family story that your mama told. And I believe that momma was a upright citizen who did not lie. But she was telling the story, and it's so amazing that I think your way overselling this. It's so amazing, please tell the story first of all my momma, that's what I called my grandmother. And she lived. To be ninety three years old. And she was a delight. She she was just a treasure. I am thankful for few things more than the fact that I got to interact with her the first time, I met her was in the hospital, and she was wearing pearls and blush because she had just had major surgery and she wanted to look nice. What? Yep. Mama was a treat while her brother owned a small plane back in the fifties. And sixties it was one of those pontoon airplanes that you land on lakes, and he had landed on a lake about maybe seventy or eighty miles from their house in the lake and frozen over, and they they couldn't get the plane out of the lake so they all piled in the car and made the drive to this other town where the plane was frozen in the lake and my grandfather gets out with my great uncle and my great uncle gets in the plane starts at up. My grandfather is pushing the plane to try to break it free from the ice, which he does. And then the plane starts moving because that's what they do. Right when they're moving, and he realized that the strut on the wing was in the way, and he wasn't able if he if he tried to let go of the plane and duck down he'd get hit in the head. And so he just jumped up on the pond. Tune of the plane and the plane took off and my grandmother said she and my aunt sat there and watched the plane disappear over the horizon with my grandfather hanging off the side of it. Story, of course, back dangling there were no cellphones or anything like that back in those days. And so they had to get in the car and drive back seventy or eighty miles not knowing what to expect because my great uncle had no idea. My grandfather was. The side of the airplane. So they get back to my hometown the plane lands and both my great uncle and my grandfather, get out of the plane in my great, uncle said that somewhere over presque isle. Maine. He heard a knock on the door. And my grandfather was looking in. At about at about five thousand feet, and so he he reaches over and latches the door. My grandfather just climbed in and then they landed the plane, so yeah, that's some of my family lower for you. Now, you have a little bit better. Understanding of why I'm the way I am those are my people. It's it's probably the best story I've ever heard. Thanks, mama. Mama was one of those people that I always felt like I had to sit up straight around. Yeah. Like, I did not want her to think I was a slow chair because then, you know, she'd she'd want us to get a divorce, and I would make me sad. All right. So it's my turn to go. I I'm gonna talk about pope for Moses. Pulp for Moses in his untimely end. And the weird way that he was treated postmortem. Sounds very intrigued. I will also say that pope for Mosa sounds like some sort of process of making beer or just a delightful tropical drink. Oh. That does sound good all over pope promotions. Don't skimp on the room. So he was a pope in the late eight hundred's in the late eight hundred's. Yes. And he had lots of trouble. He was always getting into trouble both when he was alive and when he was dead. It's much harder to get into trouble. When you're dead. He did a bunch of stuff that angered people, and I wasn't bad. They weren't bad things. But there was a lot of political struggle within the papacy. And there was a lot of competition, and he stepped on the wrong toes along the way. And then he paid a pretty big price for it in by big price. I mean that after he was dead his enemies dug him up and put his corpse on trial. On trial put him on trial a year after he'd been dead and buried what did he do? Well, according to atlas obscure the club and Wikipedia his his relationship with the church was always up and down in eight sixty four for Moses was elevated to Bishop of Porto Santo Rafina in Rome. And then sent to Bulgaria as a missionary. He he went over there and hung out with Bulgarians. And he was a great guy and people loved them. They're like, hey, Formosa's come to my house in party, you know, right? And he would and they loved him they loved him. And so they wanted him to be their Bishop. And the pope said, no, you're already Bishop. You can't you can't make those kinds of decisions on your own. I make those decisions stop making decisions for me. Even though he wasn't making. Decisions. The citizens of bulk area had requested that got it. So the pope was a bit of a control freak. Yes. The request was denied by. Then pope nNcholas the first bishops were not allowed to move from one post to another weird. But but Formosa sece's popularity was was noted historians say that that could have been really about his only crime was that he was really popular in Bulgaria. Oh. Hey, poke nNcholas dies in the year, eight sixty seven and Pope, John the eighth becomes pope or John the eighth becomes pope. And he just didn't like from Osas from the beginning. Because it was so popular in Bulgaria. Yeah. Exactly weird thing. I guess what happened was for Moses fled Rome because of the disagreement with the Bulgarian thing and the new pope publicly claimed that for Moses had corrupted the Bulgarians he had according to the pope convinced the Bulgarians not to accept any other Bishop in his place, and that this was the steppingstone to Formosa's is usurping the papacy itself. Okay. That was a tough sentence. Yep. John excommunicated for Moses. And several of his associates. So that people have Bulgaria were like, we are and for Moses. Right. Can he be our Bishop? And then the pope was like, no, you don't get to do that. And then this new pope takes over. And he is like I'm really still kinda mad about how much Bulgaria likes you. And because there was frictions tension building between Formosa send the second. The the newer pope. He fled Rome. But then Pope, John the eighth died and for most of his name was cleared, and he returns to Puerto as Bishop nine years later for most of himself was elevated to the papacy where he remained until his death at the age of seventy had it Bulgaria feel about that. They were tickled they were great. But then Formosa's alienated himself even further from from a bunch of people because just before for most assists is time. As pope, I'm going to stop saying that that's the last time Stephen the fifth crowned guy the third is Holy Roman Emperor. But when Formosa's became pope, he was nervous about guy's aggression. So he offered the emperor ship to aren't off of Karratha NIA all he had to do was come in and invade Italy. And take it in other words, he said, I don't like the current emperor. So I like this guy better. So if you can come in and kick his ass, you can have Rome. And so that's of shade. Yeah. So Arnold some Beijing failed. Oh. Ooh. Yeah. Raff Wendell Lou. But soon after that guy the third died anyway, so for most said aren't off. Hey, if you go in there now, you can overthrow guy's son Lambert the second and so on the second attempt, he succeeded and Formosa's crowned arnav Holy Roman Emperor in eighteen ninety six Arnold suffered a stroke that same year and died shortly after taking power at that point Lambert retook the throne, and the anti Formosa sentiment was running extremely high at this point because I bet after Lambert junior lost the country there, it was pissed, but I bet a lot of people are like this one happen if it was your dad's country, right? And so he had to deal with all that like mixed emotion, and he's already dealing with the loss of his dad, and he's got a lot going on right now. He had a full Roman plate. Plata plot is. I don't I don't so shortly after Arnold died. Formosa died like within weeks he died too. And that led to one of the strangest moments in papacy history. When he died at age seventy his successor pope Boniface, the sixth seemed to have no quarrel with from Osas, but he died only two weeks after he took over the the pope ship on now the papacy pope ship. I think that's fun. I picture it like an actual ship. So the his chair that he sits in ship shape and the sale looks like his hat. Yeah. They kind of marriage other. It's it's fun imagery. So after pope Boniface dies after two weeks in office. Stephen the sixth becomes pope, and he hates for Moses. He has a bone to pick with Formosa's even though for most this is dead. Is it a bug area bone could be so he has for most as dug up after a year hasn't dug up they put on his? His papal vestments. They dress them up in his pope suit. And then they sit him in the pope thrown that they had. And they held a trial. My why? Well, because he usurped the papacy. He see I mean, what to what end what what's the goal here? Would he like they wanna post mortem be able to say you were tried and found guilty of dip? They wanted to say that kind of. I mean, the next communicate all of his associates in undo all of the things that he did in pretty much a race any possible. Good thing that this pope had done. How do you put somebody on trial when they're dead and can't speak for themselves. Well, you appoint a deacon to speak for the dead guy. They actually had a deacon standing next to the corpse. I wonder if it was like a ventriloquist act. Judge. In order to do the bad person. Uh-huh. Like that. Is the. Is the deacon on the dick was appointed to do that by the pope. So yes, so the deacons not pro dead pope. No. So how can he? Right did bed. Pope ING things when I was pope. So. He was found guilty. They stripped the corpse of his papal vestments, then they cut off the three fingers that he used for blessings while he was alive. Yeah. The invalidated all of his acts as pope, including ironically, ordaining Stephen himself as a Bishop who ultimately became down instill that one. Dan, we will do. Don't worry about that as fun then his body was buried, but then they got the thinking that's not enough. So they dug him up and they threw him in the river. Stop did what? Again, to what end food what I don't understand how to Bulgaria feel about this Bulgaria was tacked. Yeah. Yeah. So the goal really here was to turn the public opinion of Formosa's against him. Toward pope, Stephen. I would imagine it would do exactly the opposite of that. Because it's creepy. A af. Well, it did exactly that thank you even in losing the trial for most is kind of one the public view digging up a former popes corpses somewhat distasteful, the very least and the public opinion turned against Steven Steven was deposed. He was imprisoned and strangled while he was in jail. Oh now now, that's not. Okay. Oh, man. This is a real roller where I come from strangling. The Bishop means something entirely different. Meanwhile, and that's the title of this episode. Well, for most of his body washed up on the banks of the of the river and started performing miracles, according to the locals, well, apparently his body people would touch it. And it would cure them and stuff like that. That was that was the rumor it was rumored to be performing miracles. I'm sorry. People are just putting their hands on a dead. Pope loaded. I've ever corpse. Yep. Cool. I had so pope Stevens gone and his successor pope Romulus. He only served ninety two days before being forced out of office his successor pope Theodore to the second annulled the trial, which by the way, it was called the cadavers node. And if you Google cadaver Sonoda, there's just a shit ton about just this particular guy at corpse trial. So pope Theodore the second Nolde, the cadaver snowed. Excommunicated seven cardinals who had participated and had Formosa's reburied once again this time in Saint Peter's basilica. Oh, great honor. Right. Yeah. I mean, it seems like kind of they made this almost martyrised kind of situation out of something that could have been pretty chilled. And instead you made it a thing pope Theodore the second accomplished all of that in nineteen days, and then died so he was only in their nineteen days. It's there's a lot of weirdness here. There's a lot of jockeying for position mysterious deaths being forced out. There's a lot of stuff with very political stuff. Going on the next six years saw three popes and one short lived anti-pope dealing with that is I really genuinely don't it's somebody who has claimed the right? Title pope ship. Even though somebody else was legitimately named pope. They say no that should have been me. And they have a Nuff people backing them to challenge it. So and that's years three popes one short-lived anti-pope, and then surgery is the third had a relatively longer seven year reign. Sergio's had been one of the judges at the cadaver snowed, and he overturned Theodore's rulings reversing the verdict Bhakta guilty. So he dug the guy back up again. Now, he did not he did he dug him back up, and they held another trial. Not another trial will word a matter. I was oh. And so they found him guilty. Again, this time they cut off his head. But. Okay. So did they think it was going to go different this time because this reminds me of like a high school like one of those young adult movies where it's like the bad kids keep making the same bad decisions over and over again. And somehow the the pope prevails, I got my messages cross there. But you know, what I'm getting at? I mean, they're just making the same bad decisions over and over again and over it doesn't make any sense. Did they think that cutting off his head is going to make the public more anti him because he was performing miracles as a fingerless blow de poed pope corpse? Yeah. Yeah. I don't know. Apparently, they thought that the public had a short memory Cher was he rebe buried after the head was taken that is unclear in fact, there are some historians say that that second trial never took place. Although it's. Referenced many many times in historical documents. There is a list of popes that are buried in Saint Peter's basilica, and it includes the name pope for Moses. So to the best of our knowledge, that's where he is. I don't know if he was disinterred beheaded and put back or if he was never disinterred. There seems to be some question about that. But regardless that was a shitty afterlife. Yeah. I just I think that there's some real hard looks that need to be taken at behaviors repeated actions that lead to. I mean, maybe some self care should would lead to some better decision making. If they did behead him after the second trial, and they decided to have a third trial. They could have just instead of appointing a deacon to speak for the cadaver. They just could've made a sock puppet in put his hand lamb tap. Yeah. Like lamb chops. No, what didn't do that. I hate Bulgaria Nafez head was separate from his body. I'm just trying to figure out how that van Trillo quest that van Trillo quay would place. I don't know. Exactly promptly. Really could you could just jam your hand up in there? That's what I was thinking pop it out of out of hand of his head. Yeah. Okay. Sorry. I misunderstood both got there. Okay. Right. Basically what we're saying? Is that it would be a good idea to promote dead? Pope cadaver puppetry, that's a that's a rough one. I think there's a market. And now it's time for that thing in the middle phrase that I'm just learning about Americanisms. These are phrases and words that Americans use that really irritate the rest of the world the BBC Dennis survey. Tell us the Americanism that annoys you most here are a few of them rim Nicholson and Glasgow said I caught myself saying shopping cart instead of shopping trolley today. And I was thoroughly disgusted with myself. Never lived nor been near the US either. According to Chris from the UK the phrase that makes him cringe to no end is touch base. I use that quite a bit actually baseball thing. Number three. I'm a Brit living in New York. The one that always gets me is the American need to use the word by weekly when fortnightly would suffice just fine. That's for Mamie, Amy. Unfortunately, I know of no one in the United States that uses the term fortnight, let alone fortnightly. No, I one hundred percent support. You in that because we should totally be using it one hundred percent fortnightly using twenty four seven rather than twenty four hours seven days a week or even just all day day or please stop it. Now, I will not number one actually is my bed saying my bad after a mistake. I don't know how anything could be annoying or lazy as that. That's from Simon Williamson enlightening ten Hampshire. Yes. Sorry about that. That's only how. Now. Okay. The box of auditees with cat and Jethro Gilligan to off it's stress and anxiety. Many people can often feel exhausted during the day because you're not sleeping well at night because you're not falling asleep. Because worry is hanging out with you. And affecting your days. It's also affecting your nights and probably affecting your overall health. That's why we're partnering with com- com- the number one app to help you reduce that, anxiety and stress and help you sleep even better more than four. 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It's prevalent in areas in the we and northern Maine because Acadian French people in Maine came from Louisiana. They migrated there. That's the assumption. And there they call it raging Cajun syndrome. Her Papa also had it according to him. She writes, we have it due to a curse from swamp spirits, and that's a whole nother story on its own. And I want to hear it. Yes. Please Kim as a child gunshots train horns, fireworks, etc. Put me into full blown seizures toasters opening biscuit cans, my older cousin jumping out and scaring me would make me stiffen up and then turn to jelly and collapse. However, I'm able to control it much better things -iety, meds and therapy. Even though my husband thinks, it's funny to open a biscuit can near me. I make them homemade now alleviating to watch my back making breakfast done. Jess, thank you so much for that. We really appreciate that. Incredible. To read a firsthand account. Yeah. Because it's a really unusual disorder and that came in while we're at the grocery store, so we took a picture with a nasty cannabis kits and. Then tear a picture with a big thumbs down thumbs down. Thanks. Yes. Thank you. Would you? Go for me Milov. Richard Warren, Sears started a mail order watch business in Minneapolis in eighteen eighty six is this a Sears catalog? It's about the Sears catalog, but very specific part of the Sears catalog. Let's get into love the history of mail order catalysts in. Okay. No, I'm serious. Okay. It sounded really sarcastic. But already nervous about them. Okay. Now. Go ahead. Okay. Okay. So okay, sir. Richard Warren, Sears, he's got this mail. Order watch business in Minneapolis. It's eighteen eighty six. It's called the RW's Sears watch company. And then he's sold it and like two years later established a new mail order firm selling watches and jewelry with alva- Roebuck as his partner they were operating as the AC robot company and then in eighteen ninety three they renamed the company, Sears, Roebuck and company and began to diversify their product line. So they. Aren't just selling watches anymore. They were offering much more in their catalogs. There were kind of like pre internet Amazon. Yeah. By eighteen ninety four the Sears catalog had grown to three hundred twenty two pages. It included many new items. So machines bicycles sporting goods even automobiles by eighteen ninety five the company was producing a five hundred thirty two page. Catalogue sales were greater than four hundred thousand dollars in eighteen ninety three more than seven hundred fifty thousand dollars. They're growing fast is the point and they're adding new items all the time dolls stoves, groceries and building supplies so before the Sears catalog farmers near small rural towns, usually purchase supplies from general stores know locally because that's how you had to buy things. And usually they were on credit, and they had a narrow selection of goods. They didn't have the ability to buy in bulk because these stores didn't have the ability to buy in bulk. So things were really priced very high prices were negotiated and relied on the storekeepers estimate of customers credit worthiness. It was super shady and Americans especially in areas dominated by Jim crow, racial segregation, who really benefited from the opportunity to buy items, not from a local shopkeeper African Americans were able to buy things and didn't have to have some shopkeeper decide whether or not they should be able to buy their goods or or whether or not they should sell it to them at the same price that they sold stuff to people so Sears took advantage of this by publishing catalogs, offering the wide selection of products at very clearly stated prices and in one thousand nine hundred six there was a Sears manager named Frank cushal. And he. Given the responsibility for the catalogue companies unwieldy unprofitable building materials department so sales were down. And there was an excess inventory. Just kind of hanging out in the warehouses. So he is credited with suggesting to Richard Sears that the company assembled kits of all the parts needed to sell entire houses through mail order. Meeting. So that's what we're talking about Sears house kits mail order houses mail order houses. So it's nineteen eight and Sears issued its first specialty catalog for houses, it's called the book of modern homes and building plans. It's actually that same year that the Aladdin company of Michigan had offered for sale. The first kit homes through mail order. So Sears isn't the first company to do this right at the threshold? That's right, Robin. Okay. And Sears mail order. Catalogs were already in millions of homes. So they had an advantage to say, oh, yeah. You can buy your house from us to whereas any other company. It was just like, hey, we've got a catalog would just houses in it. You wanna? Do you want to look at it? So they were able to promote their quote unquote modern homes to large numbers of prospective customers through its general merchandise catalog and forty four house styles were available the first year. That's incredible. And they had a wide range of price points starting at three hundred sixty dollars going up to twenty eight ninety. So I mean, eight thousand now two thousand eight hundred nine okay. Well, yeah. So right off the bat, they sold their first home and things are going. Well, as sales are growing Sears expanded its production shipping and sales offices to locations across the US. Again, they were looking for ways to make this even more affordable even more appealing to every American so steers operates a lumber mill in Illinois and later they can. A mill in New Jersey, and then they purchased the Norwood sash and door company in Ohio, and these mass produced products gave them the ability to offer incredible deals on homes. I mean, you just have to put them together shipping something like that today is a hassle. I wonder how they overcame all the obstacles back in the early nineteen hundreds of why no mailing a house. It's incredible. When you consider how many of these homes were sold and shipped by railcar also take into account, how many pieces go into a home. Pre cut framing timbers were an innovation that was pioneered by the Aladdin company, and they were offered in s- by Sears in one thousand nine hundred sixteen so pre cut lumber was cut to the appropriate links at the appropriate angles based on where that timber would be used in the house, and it was actually not until nine thousand nine hundred sixteen that was the case before nineteen sixteen they sell they sent all the lumber and stuff, but you had to cut those angles. This was a whole nother ballgame. So pre nineteen sixteen they're considered catalogue houses, but not considered kit houses. Okay. Okay. Gotcha construction of a house with the pre cut lumber reduced construction time by up to forty percent through the offer returns. Can you imagine electorate turn this house because I don't like the color? I'm sorry. We can't accept returns of items that have been assembled. He'll put your. I don't I don't like to call her. Can I keep it and get my money back? So as we mentioned entire homes would arrive by railroad. Carved staircases nails varnish families would pick out the houses, according to their needs tastes and pocket books because there were these designs, but you could customize plumbing electrical, fixtures heating systems, they were not included in the base price. But they could be included at an additional cost and the modern homes features of central heating indoor plumbing and electrical wiring were poor some families in the states. The their first experiences with these things was going to say that back, then probably electrical was a luxury upgrade. Yeah. Absolutely. And consider that you have this catalogue in your home, and you can see it day after day after day, and there's this beautiful house. This little drawing of a beautiful little house. And it's looking at you. And it's cheaper than any house that you ever thought that you could build and all of a sudden, it just seems like gosh, we could do this William we could do this. We could buy this house. Right. So anyway. Don't know it's three hundred and fifty bucks. So from one thousand nine hundred to nine hundred forty Sears Roebuck and co sold between it's estimated seventy to seventy five thousand homes. What the fuck right kidding me? I had no idea over that time they designed four hundred forty seven housing styles. They ranged dramatically in style. So there was an elegant. Ivanhoe design, which had French doors and art glass windows, and then there was the Goldenrod which had like a three room. No bath cottage for summer vacations that kind of thing, and you could really choose to customize based on your your tastes and budgets, according to Sears archives modern homes. Catalogs came to advertise. Three lines of homes aimed for customers financial means. So there was the honor built the standard built and the simplex sectional honor built where obviously the most expensive and finest quality. There were some details that were about quality builds as well as quality materials. So like, they included more pieces. So that your spacings were smaller, and that kind of thing, I don't know much about building. So I mean, I get it sort of. But saying oh, the rafters were spaced at fourteen in. Three eighths, doesn't really, you know. But there was like. Sixteen on center. Right. It's the standards duds. Yeah. I is. Yeah. I knew that. Okay. Because I like those little between the stud set in Cubbies. Oh, yes. Yeah. So I I remember talking about that one time and you're like Scooby six. I was like, okay, whatever just cut it out. I don't care. So. That's exactly how it happened. So Sears catalogs also reported that standard built homes the second level they were best for warmer climates. So they didn't they weren't built with like insulation in mind, and the simplex sectional was mostly like cottages or camps that kind of your sure and by nine hundred eleven modern homes, catalogs included illustrations of house interiors. So the homebuyers could really down to cabinets and all the stuff that the window dressings. They could they could do it all from Sears Sears, Roebuck promised that a man of average abilities could assemble as steers kit home in about ninety days. No detail was overlooked both manual and blueprints instructed homeowner as to the correct spacing even of the seven hundred fifty pounds of nails. Well, yeah. And they didn't have nail guns. No, at least consumer nail guns. But the they say the ninety days in average dude could put up his house, but a lot of people really did the whole old fashioned barn. Raising kind of thing would Sears kits which I just find to be one of the more enduring things that I can think about that time period is just that sensor can unity coming together to put together a home, and how speedy you probably could have done it. If you had all that help. So the these houses weren't just for the suburbanites Sears expanded its line to reflect the growing demand for like rural homes as well as farm buildings and barns the barn. Catalog boasted a variety of scientifically planned farm buildings which I don't know what that means. But it sounds like a bunch of hooey Warlick pseudoscientific Lee playing. But anyway, they were simple. They were easy to construct. They were inexpensive. It was particularly. Attractive to farmers as you can imagine. This is kind of neat some enthusiasts estimate that about seventy percent of Sears houses are still standing today on read something about that not too long ago that not only is there. A large percentage of Sears homes still standing today, but they're quite sought after they're incredibly sought after when I said enthusiasts. I meant it. There are Facebook groups dedicated to Sears houses, there are groups of people who hunt down Sears homes that people didn't know where Sears homes determining that. Your home is a Sears Homa is a big deal. The last Sears modern homes catalog was issued in one thousand nine hundred forty and there are some debates about like we talked about in the early days what exactly constitutes for a Sears home. And of course, you could have bought the kit and not put your house together right away. So there's no way to know when the. Last Sears home was built it's true. But in one thousand nine hundred eighty Sears also supplied building materials for homes built in FHA developments, and they were called the Sears home club plans. So FHA was buying kits from Sears to put together these communities for like, low income housing and worked out really well, of course, because it was really low cost, and it was something that could do again in bulk and benefit from that. If you go to Sears archives dot com. You can find the definition of what is a Sears home. And they've got the history of the homes as well as images of homes by dates, so you can see which houses were available in which catalogs. And there really is an incredible variety of styles. If you go to Facebook and search for Sears homes, you can see that. There are groups of people who upload photos of their Sears homes. And there are groups that help you identify. If your home is a Sears home, Martha Washington model originally was one of the more high end houses, it was around twenty six hundred to thirty seven hundred that works out to about thirty seven thousand to fifty thousand dollars today. But in two thousand sixteen one of them sold for a million dollars. So they are they are sought after it is thing. And I was reading one of the blog posts about how to identify if your home is a Sears home because there are a lot of designs like a lot of people would just take the design and then have their builders build it they wouldn't necessarily by the kit. So that doesn't count it's a Sears home. So there are lots of fun little ways. Like one of the details is at the bottom of a staircase. Where you have the baseboard coming down the side of the staircase, right right along the wall. And then where it would meet the baseboard that is on the floor meeting that because that angle would be hard to cut. There's typically just a block that meets those two pieces. So if you have a block in your baseboard at the bottom of your staircase, that's an indicator that that might be a Sears home. No kidding. Yeah. And then some like a treasure hunt. It really is there. They tell you to look for exposed would because all of them would have been stamped. So that the people building would know where to put them. And then there are also things like certificates that people would paste in their basement. So like next to the basement stairs. There's a little certificate. That says this is a Sears, Roebuck home. So. Yeah, if he's doing that. That's that's pretty much a kicker right there. I would think though that maybe during that particular time those kids were looked down upon as lesser than stick built oil more traditional homes in the neighborhood because you know, you're buying it as a kid. There was nothing in anything that I read that indicated that that was the case, it may be maybe that was something socially. But I didn't see anything that that that would lead me to believe that that's the case. Because if it was the case then. People would try to disguise the fact that it was a Sears home. And consequently, there's probably a lot of undiscovered Sears home still out there. I was able to Google street view a few of them. And it's really I don't know why I think it's so interesting, but I really do like seeing them, and they're very often because they are the special type of home because they are sought after their beautifully taken care of. And there a there are people who are trying to start registries. So that they can go and see all the standing Sears homes. It's one hundred it's a real interesting affinity group. Yeah. It really I think it's fascinating. And I can't stop looking at the designs. Like, there's of course, you know, model homes are thing. Now kit homes are thing now, especially like log cabin kits. Are a big deal that was there was a company here in Maine that started a log cabin kit company. And they started at out by. Using surplus. Telephone poles Brealey that was how they got into it. That's super cool. Anyway, that's Sears home. Sears kit homes, Sears catalog kit homes modern homes by Sears, whatever you wanna call in the whole catalog industry back in those days fascinating. For example. Montgomery ward. Catalogs did you realize that Rudolph the red nose reindeer that story came from Montgomery ward company? Yeah. That they asked one of their illustrators to come up with a coloring book for kids at Christmas time at Montgomery ward. And he came up with the whole Rudolph the red nose reindeer story, and they started selling them in the catalog and know there, you go and even though Montgomery ward owned that because the guy who came up with it was an employee. They later gave the rights to his children. That's nice. That's pretty great. You don't often hear those stories of like, hey, this big company was off. Awesome to their employees. I love it. Let's end on that note. Box about it. He's live show Halloween week. We're excited about it. Yeah. In fact, we got an Email from a guy in San Francisco. 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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

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ESPNLA Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis HR 4

"Uh-huh. The travel. You went remember this. No. But he would. Yes. Throwback Thursday special one year ago today, Raj. What happened, you know, Facebook as they have one year ago today. Yes, when you're go today, don't give us have looked Travis Keyshawn, Chris myself in Jorges odonnell, Donald sitting at dinner. We were having wind laughing together, pretending George lactose and didn't hate everybody. What was the name of the place in Hollywood key? You took us to the meat locker. The meat lock. Oh, it was take place. The name of it you and I had fight four old-fashioned before dinner. Yes. Correct. Drove me home drive home. Yeah. That's valley. So yeah. Only and I've never seen a Prius. I don't know you took us more. No. There wasn't a does. No one of those. And then shortly thereafter, he had a private meeting with Roger I said just like you guys cut that steak. We got gotta cut up. Crazy could come in. And fifth on the list was a name. Travis rod on the list. I understand the rest is history. So funny bad people out there. Hey. I just can't wait to see when you guys decide to move me out, which is about me on the that was the one we're ELS e sentas pictures of like the navigation would be late. Oh, he never showed up. Well, it was an expensive meal. First of all. Was glad he didn't. It wasn't sizzler. Wouldn't you? Don't strike me as a sizzler sort guy. None of all it says. I'm just saying that doesn't it wasn't scissor key rolling into sizzler doesn't feel like the thing that we're going to do. Thank you for the nice warm. Welcome Chris that you know, what else is nice more. No. The update drives. The update is what I was the date talking about anything else. Believe me. I don't have a mind of an eleven year old. Go ahead. I. Business news. What was one of your favorite stores department stores is a key member? Broadway. Broadway was Newbury's Broadway. You know, JC Penney. Sears Sears is back on the block. He was my dad worked for Sears for thirty five years. It was one of those deals where it was in bankruptcy. Got your clothes? That would be created. We're Lampert five billion spent five billion dollars to get it out of bankruptcy. So he wants to save Sears wants to save all the tough skins in the world. Tools. Yeah. Craftsman tools washer dryers or kid more. Yeah. Who's he Sears was a big deal? Everybody went there. Yes. Yeah. Huge especially in my community is big and everybody's community. But in our community, Sears was special. It was just go off at popcorn you can smell it. Walker entirety. Yeah. So it's going to be out of bankruptcy and back on the block saving thousands of jobs to that's the that's the key to me. Here's the problem Amazon. Yeah. But see I don't fight guys like this because they've been successful at doing this finding businesses that are in distress. He's had this whole longtime. He bought it back from himself. Basically, you know, you know, what I'm saying? Yeah. Yeah. But guys like that just figure out how to get it turned around. What was the name of the restaurant? Chris walker? No. The second baseman for the Expos four. No, find it. Don't worry. Keep talking. Appliances. Still will be big. It's here's though right? That on Amazon kinda can't really kind of get anything drive up deliver a washer. Pretty much. Well, you can go to Sears Sears everybody. You strike me as a Sears guy. Remember the little Swedish fish they used to have the candy shop in the middle. Lot of good stuff and Sears. All right. Wrote. He's. Where would you like to start? Marcus Peters was hot after the saints beat the Rams early in the season your nephew tore him up cooked cooked. And after the game, Marcus Peters was still hot. And this is what he had to say about Sean Payton. Talking all seems home. Sat on the sidelines telling keep talking and hope you see. So you do have. Have a nice little while the school to bowl of Gumbo. That's where it comes from that. He was going to go back. They're going to have a bowl of Gumbo. He's kind of walking that back a little bit. Or at least he's trying to play it a little more cool. What he's now saying he's not worried about the Gumbo. He's more focused on the game. John J just hollered at about soup, but Marcus does it make it more fun to kind of have, you know, Bantu like that back and forth. My coaches, the fiery coach, I'm a fiery player, we have fun with these things internally. We're gonna try to lead you ought to be the media. So y'all do chuckling to do with it. But I got the most respect for the science, and they hear coaching organization, you know, but things like that man, we ready to play just as much as they're gonna be ready to play trying to play a game. China talk about Gumbo all that stuff afterwards. So is he just being diplomatic key? You're listening to Caspian Los Angeles listening. Or is he still? And he's just trying to downplay it because he doesn't want everybody to be focusing on the Gumbel life. No. I think I think he's doing the right thing is what he's doing. He's not trying to give anybody any more bulletin board material that he already knows that they're gonna try to target him in certain situations. So he wants to minimize his exposure in the media is much as he can. It's impossible though. Because once you've said it, and I understand that as germ spreaders. We're going to hold onto things we're gonna go back. We're going to replay him again. But once he said it, and they got the rematch that he was talking about. This is the first thing that they were going to do. I get what he's doing. Here's what Sean Sean McVay is trying to downplay this well saying that he was just goofing around. I think it was all in good fun. I think there's a competitiveness that exists. There's a lot of dialogue that goes back and forth where when you have relationships or you have a history with people. I think markets was having fun with it. And I know that he has a whole lot of respect for coach Peyton and the saints. But you know, part of that banter as long as it doesn't take away from our ability to execute. I think can be fun as long as it doesn't get out of hand. And I don't think anybody took it out of context where was anything more than just, hey, we're we're fortunate. We get a chance to see these guys again. And and that's really what it is. And I don't think that'll be a distraction at all for more because his ability to play, but sometimes that can be fun. You know, I'll talk to guys that that, you know, our relationship with as well. Phages talking coach talk. He went into to to chapter four page fifty and he's just reading started right because he's trying to sail you it was all they got a relationship never known. Sean Payton have a relationship with Marcus Peters. And I've never known my nephew have relationship with Marcus, Peter. So I don't know what type of relationship they could potentially be talking about. I don't think it's directed at your nephew at all. It sounds like it was directed at Payton. Well, he's just scrambling saying that all fun and games, but it's really not shy Payton is talking trash to markets Peters because he realized that he has an alpha dog on a guide that he wants to expose and he got the best of him. So the ball is now Marcus Peters court to try to get some sort of revenge. Yeah. Sean, Sean McVay can say that they're having fun. I heard what Marcus Peter said it did not sound like he was having fun that there's a difference between going back and forth with the guy that you've known. For a long time and having an opportunity like that where he saying, you know, what I'm saying and year that did not sound like a guy that was having fun. That's unlike a guy that was angry. Well, you caught him few minutes after the game at his locker, and he had just been embarrassed on national television. It was the I believe it was the big game of that weekend on FOX. And so everybody got a chance to tune in and watch a guy who is a Pro Bowl corner and still is playing at that level at times get pretty much manhandle. It's gonna come down to that on defense. It's gonna come down to whether or not the Rams can play good enough defense. I think they'll score. I think they'll move the ball. I think that they'll be affective offensively. It's going to come down to defense. I don't know if it's going to be Peter's to leave or sue or Fowler or Donald or somebody. But if they're going to win that game they're going to need to get a stop a turnover. A big play a defensive score it. It doesn't feel like it's going to be a back and forth the way that it was last time where you go. I go you go I go. It's going to be a mistake. The decides this is going to be a blow up. Yeah. I think it's a blow out of. Rams or it's a blow out or to blow out saints. I don't think it'll be one of those back and forth games. Somebody'll get up by fourteen plus points in it'll be over at that point of start to row, you know, it may it may be fourteen three then all of a sudden it becomes a a twenty four teen. Then all of a sudden that number goes up a little bit more. But it's going to be one of those games where it'll be a two touchdown three touchdown type win by somebody's that big. I mean think so literal blowout blow up forty point gathering is going to be one of those games. I just think it is a big. Honestly, it is it how that happens. It's either going to be a Jere golf interception game. Or drew Brees interception game. Drew Brees knocked now game. It's gonna be something like that you mentioned Goff. Sean McVay talking about him saying that because this is this is my big concern with Gough key is that again, this is the first time for him on this stage. Drew Brees has been here countless times, Sean McVeigh's been here countless times they've won SuperBowl. They've been in NFC championship games. This is brand. New for Jared Goff, and whether or not he'll be overwhelmed. Sean McVeigh says it's not going to happen. I don't think any moments too big form. I think he's just gonna go about his normal weekly rhythm this week, certainly we don't shy away from you know, what is at stake in terms of what we can accomplish. But we also know what a great challenge it is. But I just think that you know, like you say over and over he really doesn't allow himself to get too high too low. I don't ever really feel like any moments too big form. I don't know if it's too big. But I think I'm starting with Todd Gurley and C J Anderson I'm going to get those guys going before I try to get him going. But that's not how you beat the saints. You got to beat the saints which accord he's got throw a football took advantage of secondary. Do some of the things that the Philadelphia Eagles was trying to you got to do that in do it with precision, everything has to be precise. That can't be any mistakes. May I don't think you're going to be able to run the football on the saints like that. I just don't think you're going to be able to even with rankings out. I just don't think I don't think because grows not one hundred percent in when girls not one hundred percent. It becomes problematic. Would a guy even C J Anderson has three straight games at one hundred yards. It just becomes problematic. When you got a guy like girly, basically, rotating and taking rip shared rips when you need to gash you need both of them. Because this isn't this isn't the Arizona Cardinals. This is at the San Francisco forty Niners. I mean, this is a this is a pretty solid defense. It really truly is. I it feels to me that it's defense. It's defense, and it's not throwing it to the wrong team the boat. So I guess what I'm saying is that you could be defense on both sides. I don't feel that both teams play clean. We'll say we'll see what about the other side Mahomes. It feels like there has to be a moment where Mahomes has that. Oh my gosh. I'm playing in blink. I'm playing the patriots and Tom Brady and Bill Belichick. It's five degrees outside. It's the AFC championship game. It's a chance to go to the Super Bowl. This is all talk about new. This is the first season. Bowl chilling. Patrick Mahomes says whether not a big deal, I think the weather doesn't make any difference in how these fans are gonna come out this weekend. Honestly, I mean, I know this stadium's going to be rocking. And I know these fans are going to enjoy this as much as we are trying to go out there. And when they see and bring that Lamar hunt trophy back. How can not matter when it's going to be fifteen degrees outside it's got less than fifteen minus polar vortex. Is that what it is something like that Arctic thunder Arctic thunder something like that something like that to it receiver? I would imagine that that 'cause look Patrick Mahomes can throw the ball eighty yards. If he fires tender weather. I can't be a lot of fun. If you could catch you catch it really doesn't matter your mind in the games like that mind doesn't play minus eight in Green Bay. So catches. I don't know. I had a game though. I wasn't worried about the weather. Once we started the game. I was fine. Now, all of a sudden you spend on. Sign, and that's when you call when you when you just standing there. But once you on the field, and you're running your blood is flowing, you get a little warm, but the balls or extremely hard bricks. So what's the challenge if it's not catching the ball mind? Yes. Mental is mental. That thing is not doesn't feel good. You know, when you go out skiing in things like that that that cold is a different type of cold. It's not freezing. This stuff here in Kansas City in Green Bay, so different type of coal man that that you ready for that. No. I don't want to want to. I went to the NFC championship game in wanna say it's ninety eight or something the Panthers against the Packers, and it was eight below and it was MS been more miserable. My life a wind chill factor kicks in. I mean when we were in Green Bay that time and we had to clinch to go to the playoffs. I mean win clinched to goaded into the playoffs. We didn't come out on the field. Pre-game? We stay cold. We just was like we I went out maybe shocking when I threw a couple of times, and it was oh, we went back locker room we out there. Maybe five minutes. It was too cold. Traffic you magin if the Rams had a quarterback, Patrick Mahomes the do. They do they had was the name of the steakhouse. The Gwynn was the name was. House. We w win. Yeah. It was a big Bill. Big bill. We should go a couple. A holiday dinner. We were vacation. Your back now. Yeah, we can go. But it's always this. Oh, I gotta drive for back Orange County. We get the going through those sorts of things. Too much come on down. Let's have a little party down my neck of the drive home. Yeah. We'll figure it out. You're up next. I want to go to -lanta is what I wanna do. I want. I know that you're about the nepotism, I know that your about your nephew. And I get that. I respect the family connection. But I I wanna ground fans. Hate me, though. Everybody hate you. They think I'm ram hater. All right. A quarterback that never loses games is going to a new team and a new coach we'll tell you who it is next. I don't know if we need the live version of a shell. But. The wrong went up anyway because former first lady Michelle Obama's birthday today. Fifty five years old young fifty five Machel Obama's great needed run for president. She she needed his own White House. Michelle Obama fifty five her birthday is brought to you by Jaguar Land Rover Newport Beach off the Seventy-three towards the sea his Land Rover, Newport Beach dot com. Land Rover above and beyond. I've always been fascinated by what not to move it off her because she can do whatever she wants what is Barack Obama after your term president? What do you do after that? Because he's still young guy. Just you probably got some side hustles going, and you got a few businesses, and and speaking engagements, and you travel, and you you you have your foundation you run and all sorts to. But this is a man who's brilliant who's incredibly intellectually curious who's mind is active, and it just kind of like well, make a speech over here. I'll do speech over here. I got I would think that after the president nothing quite matters to just the the intellectual impact that that would have like some guys could go watch baseball. He didn't strike me as that guy. No. He goes. He goes watch who games and stuff like as in heavy into sports. But you're just me so young. What do you do? Right. You're like thirty years left. You're basically retired and thirty job. He's what fifty something. So. Yeah. Three cave mid eighties. Sounds about right. Former presidents they age pretty quickly. Jalen hurts is on his way to Oklahoma. Jalen hurts key twenty six into as the starting quarterback in Alabama. If this was the NFL free agent quarterback like this don't become available all that often. He had a chance to go to a couple of different plays. He took a visit to Maryland to visit to Miami. Ultimately decided to go to Oklahoma which has had back to back Heisman Trophy winning quarterbacks. You'd like that choice. I do I like the choice to him Oklahoma. He can get when Lincoln Riley Lincoln Riley, certainly shown that he can win or go to the final four with back to back years with two different quarterbacks. This'll be third quarterback in as many as three years says taking over the head coaching job for Bob stoops. So he'll really show his worth. Remember? He's supposed to be innovator cliff Kingsbury type guy. Everybody wanted him to be with Kingsbury. I'm saying everybody wanted to to poach him to the NFL. Now, you got another quarterback coming here that needs some work to get to the NFL. I wanna see if you're able to turn him. Into this pocket passer quarterback type guy that can play in the NFL because I certainly think his skill set that he has now he could certainly have an opportunity to play on Sundays for sure he just needs somebody to teach him how to become a little more accurate. This is the place you go to when you're transfer quarterback. Baker Mayfield was at Texas Tech Cuyler Murray was at AM, and they both went to Oklahoma one Heisman trophies competed for national championships got into the final four. This is what you do. This is the place to go. This isn't the old school. Where is high school senior you declared to go somewhere you go? You red shirt you wait a year? Then there's a senior nurse a freshman, then you're soft more and maybe a play a little bit. And then by the time, you're junior you're the starting quarterback and you never come. This is how guys free agency in college football become a thing. No. It is in your opportunity is there he had a chance to go to Maryland couple other schools, but he decided that Oklahoma is a team not only do you throw the ball over in that particular conference. But you also got a pretty good. Coach in Lincoln Riley. You've got a great tradition entire year, leaving Alabama go to Oklahoma into one. That's that's even all the way across the board. I wonder though, if he when they were playing you did he can at it was he sitting here looking across from going that might that might be my next by or did you already have it in the works because he had to put his name in the portal for the teams the other colleges to take a look at him in in the ability to make a run any you wonder when that national because the game was out of hand. Right. When they put him on the field against Clemson at the end if Lincoln rise Elmont, goodness, he'll get down get out of bounds. Don't because he had to know. And I'm sure that officially you're not allowed to kick the tires on them at that point. But he probably knew that he was going to be on the shortlist like he's saying I don't need that kid ever to take nap. Alabama in are coming back. Right. Twenty six and two as a starter at Alabama loses his job. For two. And here's the craziest though. So two won the national title came in off the bench, and he caught fire outside of outside of winning the national title or coming in relief in winning it. They pretty much have done the same thing. Right. I mean what what well to came in. And basically pulled that game. Because Jalen did was not having a good game. He was not having a good one. Also, he's having a good game. You never even see to probably not or at least not yet. At least not yet may or maybe to us the one that's going somewhere, maybe to going back to SEC is going organ that too has decided I can't get on the field the head of Jalen, and maybe he's the one that's moving SE. Have we offers a coordinated where have we done in g it's quiet. It's silent. It's silent. You're you're part of the crew many. It's quiet. It's silent. And I didn't hurt anything. Nothing zilch. That can't be reassuring. Right. I don't even know if they put a staff together, you have no idea when do you start spring practice pretty soon? Right. I don't know when they stare everybody starts to different times. But sooner than later. Don't ask staff put together. I mean, wouldn't this key? This is the worst case scenario for SE where all of a sudden, they get Kingsbury which I think let everybody. Okay, new guy young guy new offense. We'll see far more dynamic than clay Helton. Let's see what's coming up next. And then he'd bounces to go become the head coach of the cardinals. I get it. It's an upgrade for him. I understand why he left, but now it's the as a coach that's a lame duck. Almost surely not gonna make it through the season. You don't have a staff and imagine that kids are looking and seeing where they wanna go thinking about what they wanted to form recruiting do not bad. I mean, we're early part. You didn't do? Well. No right now think we spiked we've spiked of recent weeks up there. But whatever that means if you don't have a guy coaching them up to get the maximize -bility doesn't matter. Anyway, they dropped the ball. The drop the ball by not making the move on. And sooner because they're key the schedule next year they start with a meat grinder of schedule. They've got a tough schedule right out of the chute. He could be one in three one in four and we're done. And now sitting you burn a year and you didn't hire a guy during the off season. And now you're right back where you were at the end of last year. Can't you call somebody can't you fix? This can't help. You have no juice. No. They don't listen to me. What man they don't listen to ex players that only when they need you in Tokyo Brown might stay in. Pittsburgh Steelers say that there are no trade talks yet that it's unlikely but possible that they could bring it back. They negotiating are. They trying to drive up the price or they trying to figure out a way to move him. Or is this? Hey, you know, what? Because this. I keep coming back to the same thing and Tonio Brown at worst at worst is what the fourth or fifth best wide receiver in football. Yeah. But can you win a championship when Antonio Brown? They've gotten close, but is an Tonio Brown guy type of talent that push you over the top win a championship. Is that? Sure need is that your style. Like teams look at it. And they go. If I'm the Carolina Panthers. I look at that. And I go I need a home run hitter. I got Devon punches Anita home run hitter. Cam news, healthy, I need a home run hitter. He's gonna put us over the top. That's the important thing is when you looking at that receiver him going. Trading for him to go to Oakland. It's not going to put Oakland over the top training for him to go to to San Francisco's not putting San Francisco over the top understand what I'm saying. So when you look at it, and you know, I know that was rumblings old Atlanta Falcons Julio Jones sitting we good over here because he can't get them over the top. It's certain positions. If you say that Julio Jones getting Goto the New England Patriots that puts New England over the top because they need that type of player. So it depends on where he fits what the team is looking for training in Arizona. Doesn't do anything for home? No, nothing. But you wonder how much damage is Pittsburgh because he's the talk about home run hitter. They need a home if he's gone and Levy on Bell's not coming back who's the home run hitter. There right now Jews you. Yeah. But he's not the same as a AB jujubes. Nice. But he's not a beat twenty four thirty. We'll circle back. So if I was to say. I am your father. Do you know what that means? Store worst. Probably do you know who said it in the mass? We talked about earlier. Oh, yeah. Oh, voice of Darth Vader. The I don't I don't know dark Vader James Earl Jones who start baiter oh data is his birth. He's eight years old now the bit that goes back before your time on the show Travis is when key said dark Vader. We're a black cost us exactly what I thought for years. I didn't know. I don't what's not. I'm not a star war guy. I don't you know. But he thought it was dark Vader. I thought it was dark Vader. Yeah. The not Dorthe. Just go dark Vader. I'm thinking he was dark. He had the mass. Why they call him dark Vader James Earl Jones, though, well, all of it. All right. The Lakers are in Oklahoma City tonight, Nola prime, but things are about to change. We'll tell you what it is next. It is national hot buttered rum day. That means never had that is that a real drink. Yeah. Let her roam hot buttered right to drink. I've never had it. Sounds gross put butter in the rump. I don't know. But I know it's a drink. I don't drink room. Listen, I'm like, you don't like it might tire desert tropical drinking the net. I don't drink row. Also, national drumming coke and stuff like that. Bacardi and coke when I was like sixteen cocktail a warning there. Oh, man drink, it seems like that's a kids. Drink is it. Yeah. That's a that's a I don't know how to drink yet drink you got to mature into other liquors now, I just drink keel in glass, right, right? Chris the curve a little bit along the way to keep liquors on the road tonight and key. They still don't have a Braun their foreign seven without him in have had some bad losses along the way. Some clunkers, obviously, Cleveland the Knicks. Both of those at Staples Center, home games. It's about to get very very real for them. Okay. See tonight, Houston, Saturday night both of those on the road, then their home against the warriors on Monday, but does Oklahoma City Houston, Golden State, the top of the Western Conference. And then they've got Minnesota Phoenix couple easier ones in there. And then it gets hard over again, Philly clippers Golden State, Indiana, Boston Philly so Peron. We don't know. How long these? Going to be out. We're still waiting to find how long he's going to be missing. But let's say it's another five games. Those five games. Let's say you win one split them to two and three or three into you think they're going to split Oklahoma City, Houston, Golden State. Minnesota Phoenix best case scenario. There's two aching beat Houston. They could beat Minnesota. They could be they could be hidden beat Houston. I think they could beat Houston. They've lost Brock. They can beat them. That's tough. Putt. That's tough. But at some point he's got a cool off. Jay Karnes got a cool off saying that for months, he's averaging forty five points the last month. He's gone over fifty five two games in a row the second ever. I mean, he's I hear what you're saying. But there's no indication he's going to cool off. He's as hot as anybody's ever been. Why do you think is going to cool off just because he's hot? And this time it comes back to you. Yeah. I mean, it'll slow it down a little bit fifty five last night. The rockets actually lost to the nets in overtime. He had fifty seven against the grizzlies and before only wilt had gone back to back fifty five or more in a row. That's my bugging me. It's almost like I wanna fact check to make sure because it doesn't set. Right. It just doesn't sound right. Valuable five key. That's not look if you want to say about the scores that we've had in his league for years Kobi body, Golden State. You just think I'm like it just doesn't sound right. It may be factually. Right. But it doesn't sound light sense right to me. Because Russell didn't go fifty five and fifty six I'm talking about the west route that fifty five is a if you're told me to people done forty five percent doesn't sound right. But fifty five ton of point. It's I guess. I guess point. It is a ton of points. I just think with all the scoring in the league for years that some of the scores that we've had that they would have gotten it. But maybe like, Alan Iverson Iverson ever, do it. He had a couple of fifties. But not back to back not fifty five pluses back to back. You don't think are gonna win the MVP because you already got it in his team's not winning. But if keep play this out, let's say he doesn't cool. Let's say he averages for the season. He averages thirty five points game thirty six points game because that's where he's trending towards if he averages thirty six points a game in the rockets finish second third and Western Conference. He could go back to back. He would have to be two three anything less to one two three out dig gets it. He's in five right now a game and a half out of three, but it's not over. No. So if his over, and he goes there, then he'll have a real strong possibility. But Jaanus is, you know, carrying the Milwaukee team to a whole 'nother level it's ridiculous Bronco due to. Let's say LeBron gets back in the next week. And the Lakers ran they just take off you give if he misses eleven games and he plays in seventy games. Let's say you give it to liberty. Give it to the, bro. If they especially if they go from where they not just guys, I don't like individuality statistics when you not winning right? John island is in Oklahoma City with the Lakers. We'll talk with him coming up travel and key. She didn't outs with this morning which announcement the one and only the young lady at the time singing here. Gladys tonight. We'll be singing the national anthem at Super Bowl fifty three. Gladys. Knight knows good. Best was up Atlanta. Ata it feels like Lanta. All right. John Ireland Jordan us right now Joey nights in the anthem in Atlanta for the Super Bowl love it. I, you know, in by the way, greetings from Oklahoma City. Greetings, where it is forty degrees. But I loved I think James worthy told me once that he met Gladys Knight and the pips you met all the pips so keys. Right. That's when you think of Atlanta, you think Gladys Knight? Didn't she do midnight train to Georgia believe so that was one of her big hits? So it's going on how you guys doing. We're doing good. We were talking this morning. John about the Lakers at the midway point in giving them grades that you know. What key key game B-minus minus. I gave them a c where would you be? All right. So I would do it in Q parts. And then we can average the great. That's what with with LeBron. They were twenty and fourteen that was a debt team was be a solid B. Maybe even be plus and the last game LeBron played guys on Christmas day, Michael Thompson. And I look at each other and said that was they just destroyed the warriors. And we said nobody wants to play the Lakers in the first round of the playoffs. They play like this. They'll they'll scare anybody. Then LeBron got hurt. Then Rondo got hurt. They've been four eleven cents without LeBron. I'd give him a D with LeBron. I'd give him a BB. Plus, so I guess that averages me in at a c is that is at higher or lower than what most people are giving John. That's that's literally almost exactly what I had a little bit higher because he's given the LeBron piece. I and the expectation that LeBron is coming back if I'm getting right where you said that that kind of bumps them up into the be range well in keeshonds, right because they played more games with LeBron than they. Have without him. So you should you should shade a little bit towards what key did go to the b because I thirty four games with the guys with LeBron. And with Rondo I'm telling you, I don't know if you've got a chance to watch out on Christmas day because most people were busy, but they they destroyed the full strength warriors all four all stars played in that game. And Golden State had no answers for them. And I know it's just one game. And we're gonna play McGinn Monday, probably without LeBron. But when when you watch that game, you said this is what the Lakers looked like when all parts are clicking. And they were really smart to that day. They bodied up against curry and Durant, and they left guys like Ecuador and Draymond green wide open and dared them to shoot. And those guys were so freaked out by that they couldn't make anything. So I wouldn't even rule if the Lakers get LeBron back, and they get the warriors in the first round most people will be picking a sweep I won't. I think the Lakers could. Series. When do you expect for him to be back? John boy key. It's a great question. If you look at the kind of two answers came yesterday the Lakers had a statement saying that they're going to try and eat them back in next week. And if you read Rich Paul statement, it sounds like he could be out as long as six weeks. So I would I'd be surprised if if we saw them play next week. It sounds like they're going to ease them into practice. Let him ramp back up. We've got that game. Monday on Martin Luther King day against the warriors. Then we play a Thursday game at home against Minnesota. And then we go back up to Golden State the night before the Super Bowl. I I would I would say he's at least a week away. But I'm totally guessing I'm just basing that on the two statements the one from the Lakers in the one from Rich, Paul John Ireland. Joining us Mason in Ireland twelve to three every single day can hear and call the Lakers tonight against okay. See PLA seven ten and get kind of going back to what you're saying. John you forecasting. What's coming up next? And you look at the entire season you go back to the very very early part of the season. There was the fight against the rockets and Ingram and Rondo get suspended and then Ingram gets hurt. And now Rondos hurt and LeBron. We really haven't even seen the Lakers at their best for an extended period of time. And you wonder if like you were saying that that matchup in the playoffs if they can get twenty five thirty games where everybody's right? What that looks like at the end of the line right but Travis it's a it's a race against the clock. Yeah. Because if you look at the Western Conference standings, there's going to be two maybe three teams with winning records. And let me ask you what you think about this. There's a push quietly in an NBA circles. To take the best sixteen teams and put them in the playoffs. In other words, throw the conferences out because if the Lakers finished the season with a winning record, let's say the Lakers finished the season with forty five to forty eight win somewhere in their forty one is five hundred and the Lakers are out as the Niner that ten in the west yet a team in the east with forty wins with seven or eight less wins gets put in the playoffs. A lot of people are going to be bit. Would you do you guys? Like the way it is. Now where you take the top eight in each conference. Or would you rather just take the top sixteen overall take the top eight? And you like you like the geographics of it. Because if you look at John and all of a sudden you've got a team that forty in another team that's forty one forty two that is they deserved miss because they didn't win enough games in that conference the team that it was in the conference with less. They won enough games within the conference to win. So you shouldn't punish them by going to this other format. I'd like to see the sixteen best teams. I would like it presents problems especially logistically with travel and matchups and you could have a team that's playing an early round game halfway across the country or even further. But I'd rather see the sixteen best teams rather than half of the sixteen best teams and then a couple of phone in from the east. Yeah. The travel in the match Travis is key channel tell you. That travel has improved so much that it's not like these guys are flying commercial changing planes in three cities. We go on charter jets directly to wherever we're going and stay in five star hotels. I don't think that would be key one thing that that I would say that could change your mind. Is that in basketball? Unlike football. All the free agents free agents kind of go where they want the players kinda run the league. And the end result of that has been everybody going west. And so the west is overloaded with stars. If you were going to try and get the all stars in the west right now four or five guys who should be all stars are getting left off that team in the east. There's going to be guys like the Angelo Russell that might make the all star team. Just because they need to come up with twelve guys. And so because of that you're gonna have really talented teams in the west get out. I see what you're saying though. I mean, there's something about the fact that you gotta make the conferences in the divisions means something, and if you adopt what I'm suggesting, then you basically might as well just throw it out. I mean in the AFC, and the NFC it does that I mean, so football kind of figured it out. So maybe basketball should just wait and figure it out and wait for the balance. Go back to the east Arledge joining us from Oklahoma City where the Lakers, we'll come back. We'll talk more about who the MVP might be at the halfway point. Plus, we'll get a look at the Lakers, excuse me. The Rams and the saints coming up Sunday that is next. Now, the Johnson family comes to the stage. Just the great Johnny Arlyn's, say one Johnson just isn't enough. John Ireland Mason in Ireland twelve. John is in. Okay, see the Lakers and the thunder tonight before we go to the Rams, John. Give me an idea of your MVP at this point. We're just talking about it a little bit. And we saw James harden go for fifty eight again last night second guy ever to have fifty five or more games in a row. He's averaging over forty points. The last month who's your VP at the halfway point. Boy, I would vote for harden. But a lot of people aren't going to vote for him because his team isn't winning anything. Some people are gonna vote for ya'll ju. Yeah. Some people side by boat, you're in key said hardened too. And I said no his team's not winning anything. He's averaging forty five game. So he's pick Keyshawn you make a good point. I mean, a lot of people are going to look at what Milwaukee's doing and vote for Jaanus. And a lot of people are gonna look at quite Leonard and leading Detroit to the best record in the east, and they'll still be people that are. No, no Toronto. Cheese to trip. You know? Here's a question about Hardin that I wanna ask you guys. Why do you think harden? Is is out of the top five in the west in all star voting. Why don't people like harden? In other words, if you look the latest all star votes, they just released a week ago. The back court is Steph and Derrick rose who's a great comeback story. And in the front court is LeBron Luca Danni and Paul George, so no Durant. And no harden. Why are fans down on harden? Do you think I have no idea? I would be I'm pretty shocked about that. If I had to fathom guest, John the as amazing James harden is and what he's doing is difficult as it is. It's not the most visually pleasing thing in the world. It's when he gets a lot of calls. Yeah. Any any winds, and he gets a lot of calls a lot of it's from the line. And it's not Steph curry dribbling between thirty guys and taking a forty footer. It's not a it's amazing. And it's awesome. But it's not what a fun to watch. Maybe that's part of it. Yeah. There's still one more vote total to be released. But if. Doesn't make it. I mean, they can put him in because fan votes only fifty percent of it. And they'll probably just jam him in there. But I found that weird that hardened could be this dominant and be third or fourth in on the MVP league in not make the all star team. Yeah. That'd be weird. That'd be one of the weirdest things going so NFC championship game. John coming up on Sunday. The Rams are three and a half point dogs key. And I did our picks a little bit earlier. He has the saints. He's got the whole thing this far as nepotism and everything else early where you on this. Well, I I want to ask key. I wanna ask you a question about something. And you were when you played you're right in this boat. You know, everybody says what Bill Belichick is really good at is. He takes away your favorite thing. And makes you beat him a different way. And I I was thinking about this. Michael Thomas, your nephew such a great player all some porch the Rams in week nine fried them. He torched the eagles last week cook them when you were at the top of your game. If a coach did a coach ever try and game plan you out of the offense. Is that even possible for a player that good? If you're if you're the no. It's it's not possible. If you're the guy if you guy they're gonna find ways to get you the ball because that's the only way the offense is going to run run through you the passing game. We'll run through you teams double teams bracket. Coverages certain downs and distance. But good coach is like a guy like Sean Payton, Charlie weis, Dan, Henning off its coordinators at I've had in my in when I play they were able to move me around and certain situations that made people uncomfortable. Like, I remember when we played against Dion Sanders and Dallas Cowboys when I was the New York Jets Dion was at the height fast much faster than me the whole deal. But what Dion was uncomfortable doing was playing inside? So we did is we basically for made in me to the slot. The entire game. It made him have to go inside where he was uncomfortable. Now I had the entire field to to play with and he was out of his comfort zone. So things like that. You'll see Sean Payton try to take advantage of in ways. Phillips trying to stop. Yeah. It's going to be a fascinating thing. So so to answer your regional question. Travis I'm picking the Rams, but I think I'm picking with my heart more than my. The reason. I'm picking the ramps is I think shelving maintains that defensive linemen they lost a big deal for them. I think that's a big blow to the saints. And I also think that having a keep to leave makes at least another weapon you can use against Michael Thomas. But I don't I think Michael Thomas is going to get his. I mean, I just think he's that good. He is. So so it's I think it's going to be a close game. I can't wait to watch it. I'm going to pick the Rams, but but homefield against the saints in the dome if if they pull it off it'll be shown McVeigh's biggest win as a coach. It'll be obviously the biggest win for the Rams since they won the Super Bowl and Saint Louis, it's a huge huge chore, but I'm going to I'm going to pick with my heart and pick the ram Michael Thomas, gut after Marcus Peters in the first game. He was hot afterwards. And we know what he said about Sean Payton, we'll get a bowl of Gumbo. Next time. I've got something for him. He's kind of backing off on it a little bit want you to listen to this John. Here's Marcus Peters. Gumbo thing. John McVay just hollered about soup, but Marcus does it make it more fun to kind of have, you know, fantastic that back and forth. My coaches, a fiery coach, I'm a fiery player, we have fun with these things internally. We're gonna try to lead you ought to be the media. So y'all do gonna do with it by saving. I got the most respect for the science and a head coach. Organization of things like that. Now, we ready to play just as much they're gonna be ready to play China play a game China talk about no Gumbo. All that stuff afterwards. Just playing nice at this point that he's still hot. Or is he trying to walk that back? I both. And I he took down the tweet because somebody asked him to you know. Key. You are really confident player, and you would say things what really whatever you wanted to still do. Yeah. Marcus peters. Probably had tried to do that. He feels on his confidence. And I think somebody probably asked him. Hey, man. Let's not make this about Gumbo. Let's make it about the game. And he team player. He took it down. I had zero problem with the tweet. I kind of wish you would have left it up Kia was one of the first people that bought your book. Gimme the damn ball. Guys should buy another copy. I'd be I'd be happy to if you still get residual. Yes. The I like guys who kind of put it out there and talk, but Travis I understand why did it which is why I'm saying it's a little of both. I think he was probably asked. Hey, man. Let's make this about we and not about me, and he was happy to do that. But let's face it, Sean Payton noticed something about that matchup in week nine and he wanted when Michael Thomas. When the game on that seventy yard touchdown pass, seventy two. They will wait key. They were waiting for that weren't they they were waiting for that match up to get him isolated one on one where they knew he didn't have help and Thomas torched them. Well, if you look at that John and Travis he was on a tight split. So this basically the slot. Marcus Peters is uncomfortable playing in that role. Mikey had the entire field to work with. He took a wide release stacking backup and got back to his alignment it, Marcus Peters. I he was doing was looking back because he thought he was going to run in income from that split. So all the little tricks that you gotta watch out for it. Is this two C J Anderson ran the ball lot more than I thought he would in that Dallas game kills that. Because he was going good. Or do you guys think girly is not one hundred percent both? I think that he was going good. So you're gonna ride hand. But he also there's no way they're go away from him like that. If he's on her. I simply think that told Travis this earlier in the week that. I didn't believe that. He was one hundred percent in C J Anderson doing a good job. So. Until he's healthy. I'm I'm gonna go with C J Anderson, and hopefully, I'll get some of the same things John. Well, maybe that maybe the Lakers can shock the world tonight in Oklahoma. It's very hard to do here. They they have the best fans in the world they've sold out three hundred and eighty consecutive games. So it's like a college atmosphere here it'll be hard. Fifty John Michael have the call and that when coming up. John. Thanks. All right, boys. Oh, great show. John Ireland city the Lakers taken on the thunder tonight. And it is about to get very very real for the Lakers. They've had a relatively soft spot in their schedule without LeBron for these last eleven games. It is not a soft spot. It gets very real starting tonight in Oklahoma City against the thunder. You are listening to SPN loss. To the NFC championship game. We've got all sorts of stuff on tomorrow. I can't wait I want. Wait. I can't wait for Jared Goff to go off on Sunday. And then so real. A real quarterback. They've got one Chris and he's gonna go. He's going to have a big day. I think tha leaves going to get a pick two. I think that he's gonna come back and he's going to do that. It's gonna can't wait Chris. I can't wait NFC championship game. That's on Sunday.

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How to lead your organization through this "trade war" | Ep. 79

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How to lead your organization through this "trade war" | Ep. 79

"The. March. I is just around the corner, which means the US and China are supposed to reach a trade deal before the US imposes another round of tariff increases on Chinese goods coming into the United States back in December twenty eighteen both countries agreed to halt new tariffs for ninety days in order to allow time for negotiations with uncertainty. If both sides will reach a deal in time on this episode. We're sitting down with one of our Kelly experts, professor Dale Brown. Who's going to help us navigate our organizations through these choppy economic waters. Let's get to the podcast. Welcome to another episode of the ROI podcast presented by the Indian university Kelley school of business. I'm your host Matt Martel alongside associate dean Phil Powell here on the show. We work hard to help organizations make better business decisions. So thank you so much for joining us today. If this is your first time listening, we just want to welcome you to the Kelly family. This weekly podcast. Focuses on interviews with thought leaders from the great state of Indiana. And around the US each episode offers three to five takeaways that can be applied to our leadership immediately. So help us help you if you're a leader trying to work through a major obstacle in your career or within your organization. Let us know you're not alone either. Because at some point we all have or we all will face the same challenges. So shoot us an Email to our ipod. That's R I P O D, UPI dot EDU. We'll anytime. We hear the word war. We know there are at least two parties engaging in some sort of conflict be at physical economic or emotional. It does not matter. What context war takes place? Here's the principle that always stands true war is costly for both sides. Whether your company is impacted by these tariffs, or you're just trying to stay prepared for the future. We're going to offer some points on how to successfully navigate your organization through this trade war. But I it's important to understand the role of tariffs inside a global economy. Pair of play a vital important part in international business. Most of countries that we do business with tariffs used earlier in the three to four percent rage for goods going out or coming in. But then sometimes you have those big gigantic tariffs like that. Trump administration has imposed. On China and some other countries in the steel industry in the aluminum industry with rains from ten fifteen twenty percent. And depending on if those terrorists are on the goods that are coming into your country. Then of course, that's not a good thing. Because that means that the companies receiving those goods are paying more money, which awesomely gets passed onto the consumer. You know, Matt, we know two things about tariffs. Their impact is complex and their consideration is controversial there are benefits to tariffs. You can use them to punish trading partners. If those trading partners are not protecting your actual property, or they're engaging in an unethical labour or environmental practices. If you're trading partners or imposing tariffs on you. It's a way to signal to them that they need to lower their tariffs. It's it could be a counterpunch. And also it can be a way to protect domestic industry. Whether that's protecting the loss of jobs or protecting certain industries for reasons of national security. There are rational reasons to argue in favor of tariffs at the same time. There's drawbacks. These drawbacks are reduced trade. If you impose tariffs pretty much, your trading partners are going to impose tariffs, which will hurt your businesses. It will hurt your exports and will hurt their exports. It also aggravates any tensions politically that our current in the international Rena, and it can make cooperation with your trading partner difficult on another issue in international relations and also tariffs lead to inflation their tax their tax on goods and services you buy from abroad, and at least increased prices, which leads to inflation. And so the benefits can be there. But the costs are also there too. So it's it's a really debate about the trade offs that tariffs create, and we could spend a lot more time getting into the theory of these tariffs or try to pick sides to the argument. However, whatever our thoughts or beliefs about tariffs, the reality is there in place at the moment, and as leaders, we still must make crucial leadership choices for organizations. So how do we work through these obstacles? How do we take these challenges and make better business decisions liquid with any major obstacle? It starts with taking more cautious outlook about the future for our companies. I don't think this trade war will go on forever. But for right now, you've got to deal with it. So that means you have just like we as consumers you're out of work because of the government short shutdown. What you gotta do. Do you got to tighten your Bill continued to work on being efficient in your operations continue to look at your turnover operations for cutting costs continue to stay competitive. So that you can offer your customers at competitive price for goods and services. So I think if you get to the end of town light, it's in tunnel again as you said, then we'll have an opportunity to kind of go back away. Things were clicking along just fi before we got into terrible. So our listeners may have heard a recent episode episode seventy seven or professor Kyle Anderson, and I offered economic forecasts for twenty nineteen part of our forecast was the impact of a trade war and history shows that a trade war in the short run leads to a contraction in economic activity. It leads to a slowdown. It leads to a slowdown because. Exports for both trading partners goes down, and it takes a long time to replace those exports. You would buy from the other country with your own domestic industry that just takes time. And in between you have a shortage of of goods and services that means the price goes up. So while we're in a trade war, while discussion of a trade war continues while negotiations continue with no fallback in terms of tariffs company should expect slower economic activity. They should expect a slower US economy, which means they should be more cautious. And how they look at the next six twelve or eighteen months again, I want to echo Daryl. This trade war will not go on forever. If this trade war does happen. It's a speed bump we all must hurdle. So in the meantime, along with embracing a cautious way of conducting business. We also need to embrace innovation and creativity in this. Season. And right now businesses have to decide do I want to continue to pass on these costs to consumer or their other countries. I can get those products goods and services from. So that's one way that you may be able to avoid tariffs. If you can't get product or service from China, then maybe you can get it from India or the European Union one of those countries anywhere else to help bring your costs back down her stabiliser costs. So you don't have to pass it onto the consumers. If you're a manager if you're an executive the world always throws you a curveball. These trade wars are a big curveball anytime something unexpected happens that has a negative impact on business. It's an opportunity to be creative. It's an opportunity to be innovative and entrepreneurial. And so with a trade war. It impacts supply chains a lot of our American companies source product or they source input from foreign companies. And if all of a sudden. Your product or your supply chain gets caught up in that trade war. Your prices are gonna go up you need to look for alternatives. Are there other countries in the world were perhaps you could source your inputs? Maybe there's a country. That's just an economic take-off that is newly industrializing where you might consider a brand new company a brand new provider for that resource or or or service. Also, can you make it internally? Are there American producers that you didn't know about that with a little a little bit relationship-building they could substitute from where you would otherwise be exporting. Your component business has to continue. Production has to continue you have to adjust your supply chain to continue to meet domestic demand for your product. Don't let the trade war paralyze your business because if you do that's a bad habit of just letting any unexpected events make you stop doing business, and that's just that's just not a winning strategy for any any manager Ernie executive a one of the things companies. I think did not react to their. External environment is Sears. And you can see how Sears is one hundred twenty five year old great company is just gone down down down down in you know, by then a year, maybe out of business bankrupt. Oughta gather. And they could have avoided that situation Headey reacted to the walmarts to the targets till the external environment to e commerce to things like that. But Sears didn't. They're the situation they aren't today. Because in Phil I love what you said about companies having to make decisions regardless of the situation on the environment. We find ourselves for example. Let's take a look at Sears Sears was a major retailer in fact in nineteen sixty nine they were the largest retail store and retailer in the entire world for years later, they even build a seer the Sears tower in Chicago, one of the iconic symbols of the city and leading up to the WalMart and Amazon era in the late nineties early two thousands their returns were fantastic. However, one thing that I think this quote sums it up. This is by Barbara Kahn, a professor of marketing at Warton school. She told CNN during a two thousand four interview, quote, WalMart came along with it's great service and low prices other retailers started to innovate more with products and services, Sears, KMart simply trudged along. And thought it was good enough, and quote here we find thinking it's good enough thinking it's going to pass sitting by being idle sometimes can be the beginning of the end for organization you met you write the lesson translates. You can't just sit idly by companies cannot sit idly by and just assume that the global economy is going to return to what it was before the election. Even if there's a change in administration, there's been a fundamental shift in the political perspective on trade, and there's more tolerance for tariffs. And there are huge reasons for that. And it's changes in the social and political landscape a lot of business faces disruption from technology that's going to change what successful Newmarket same thing. Here a lot of industries face political risk. And you can't just assume that though, those political arrangements that work to your favor or the make business easier. Always going to be in place. You have to adapt. If you do not adapt. A competitor will which means they'll still your market share and you'll become obsolete and you'll shrink and you'll bankrupt or be acquired. That's exactly what what's happening with once leviathans, Sears and KMart. And once we embrace the creativity and innovation. It's time to make a plan for multiple scenarios Zo as leaders you in your strategic planning, you know, this happens. So you're going to play plan B planning, right? If we don't have tariffs, high tariffs or tariff war than we can continue to go along this path if we have moderate amount of terrorists, then we'd take this path. If we have heavy duty tariffs then. Okay. We take this path. And we look at how we can cut back. Tighten her bell. Maybe not expand is fast as we were. And have that plan updated each and every year? Especially if you're shipping products in receiving products overseas, especially with China, and maybe some other countries. Seen it once before you can set yourself could it happen again? Let me be better prepared. If it does have you should have strategic plans. This is if we have a recession in this country, or you had an unknown competitor knocking your door you've got to be able to react to the external environment. This is important as the leader to remember that you're always reacting to the external environment, and how it affects you and your business. And if you do that, I think you'll be fine. You know, Matt Daryl's emphasizing timeless lesson. Plan your work in work. You plan. But plan for different types of work and different types of scenarios anticipate, what can be you know. If you make a plan when there is no storm, you will survive the storm. Those that plan for recessions, and it an accept the fact that they can occur we'll survive they have a fallback position. This is why it's important to think very long term to always have some cash reserves to always have a plan B, and that's the part of being doing businesses about being nimble. And if you're nimble, you can adapt you can pivot, and he can respond to whatever comes your way. It might not feel good. It might not be the best of times. But if your business you'll survive to prosper another day. And like I said before this trade war will not last forever. If it does occur the US and China are the two leading economic powerhouses of the world economy and should reach an agreement because both countries are feeling the economic strain caused by these tariffs. And when that happens the impact should be fairly immediate wouldn't take very long with take the with even take a couple of months. We went. Back to where we were. You could see it come down a pipeline pre fast pretty significantly usually when they impose tariffs it may be takes two or three months down the road to see all those increases same thing when they get rid of. You know? Although does that take as long, you can see the FEC a lot more immediately. You know, Matt Daryl's completely right? The stakes are too high for both China and the United States for this trade war to last forever. There's too much to lose what we're seeing right now is political instead of economic it's it's arm flexing. And the Trump administration has some legitimate complaints about fair access of US firms to our markets, the questions become how much will or how much endurance of short term pain can either China or the US withstand? It's kind of a game of political chicken. And it it Kerr's costs and managers and executives simply need to accept the reality of this manage to it in the short, medium run with the expectation and a plan that. At this too will pass that's the good news here, but managers executives should also see that this is a test of your -bility to breathe and flex and your business model, so that you can survive unexpected shocks. So let's recap tariffs are supposed to increase on imported goods from China. If United States and the Chinese governments do not make a deal by March first of this year already we have felt the pains from this trade war as both consumers and business leaders. But remembered China is also feeling the pain because like any war both sides pay a high price understanding, how tariffs impact the global economy both for the good and for the bad gives us the baseline insight. We need to lead ourselves, and our organization through these tough times, regardless of our beliefs or feelings on these trade sanctions, the reality is they exist. So we can either sit back and do nothing or we can make preparations to come out on top during these uncertain economic times as leaders we got lean toward a more cautious approach to our business decisions. This allows us to catch her breath and. See exactly what's in front of us. We also need to increase our creativity and innovation because our normal way of doing business is currently too expensive. Whether it's finding new supply chains looking internally for temporary cutbacks or maybe bringing some projects in house to help keep our consumers happy the goal is to make away for our organization. Just remember these trade wars will not go on forever. So we're engaging in temporary measures. It's the companies that don't adapt who find themselves in the back of the pack. Just like the Sears example. Finally, once we embrace new ways of conducting business, write it down take this time, while it's fresh to create robust strategies in the event this happens, again, just like we have plant A B and C when new companies entered the market or consumer base changes have a plan for if and when new tariffs are created and how your company will still function. Remember at the end of the day in organization. Is only as good as leaders leading the charge. So it's up to us to make sure we can push through these obstacles. This has been another episode of the ROI podcast, presented by the Indiana University Kelley school of business. I'm your host Matt Martel alongside associate dean Philp hull where we work hard to help organizations. Make better business decisions. We'll see next week.

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What The Black Death And Spanish Flu Can Tell Us About What Comes Next

Odd Lots

32:01 min | 1 year ago

What The Black Death And Spanish Flu Can Tell Us About What Comes Next

"Andean the future-proof Payments Platform welcome all payments beyond the cutting edge of customer experiences, and Grow Your Business with ad yen visit Adeane dot com forward slash podcast to learn more. That's a d. y. e.. N. Dot com forward slash podcast. Hello and welcome to another episode of the. podcast on Tracy. Alloway and I'm Joe Weisenthal. So. You know what to do during. Uncertain Times Times of. Trouble With your dog bite their puppet. Yes but that's a relatively new development but for a long time I really like reading history books whenever the world seems a little bit crazy I like going back in time and finding other moments where things seem just. It's crazy. stressing when I when the world is really bad. Stress Eating is also enjoyable, but yes. The reason I bring it up is because in the current situation. We've seen the coronavirus pandemic. There are a lot of historic parallels to this particular outbreak so almost immediately. When this whole thing started, people started reaching back to the black death of the Middle Ages. We also had people talking about parallels with the Spanish influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen lots of people looking at history to try to figure out what's going on right now and what the economy might actually look like once. This has subsided. Yeah. That's exactly right especially. The Spanish Flu Spanish Influenza. Nineteen eighteen, the numerous stories about that I guess because maybe of all the different like sort of like pandemics. We've had in the past. We probably have the sort of. You know most accurate recollection of like what the medical experts were saying at the time, or everyone's seen those charged of second wave of the Spanish flu, so of all the lots of but as you say, lodge of attempts to look at history to figure out what they mean for the president right and whenever we talk about financial history There's one guest that we really liked to have. Have on organ. Have them on again. It's Jamie Catherwood Aka Finance History Guy from o'shaughnessy asset management. He also runs a website called investor Amnesia DOT COM. We've had him on before. We're going to have him on again to walk us through what we can learn from previous outbreaks or pandemics in what they tell us about the current situation, so jamie thanks so much for coming on. So Jamie maybe to begin with you know. Joe mentioned that. A lot of people have been focusing on the. Influenza pandemic of nineteen eighteen in particular, but is there one moment in history that you focused on in your readings in in your studying of this topic, one moment of history that is most relevant to our situation. So I think that like you guys talked about. There's a lot of people going back to the the black death and Spanish flu. There's a lot of other epidemics and pandemics in history that also interesting, but. They're all really different. Including the Spanish flu. It's fairly different in terms of just the disease, but also at the time it occurred in versus today. I think there are a lot of differences more than similarities, but there are some interesting trends in both today and the Spanish flu that are similar and one that I found really interesting was just. There's a paper that talked about the Amazon effects that occurred in Spanish which sounds but. We've all talked about. How at sears was the original? Amazon. And there was evidence. Of Federal Reserve Abor that showed. On a monthly basis during nineteen in the second wave. was in the fall. just the worst of the. Three waves, the e- sales and business activity first sears Roebuck in Montgomery or shed mail order. cadillacs increased and the worst months of the Spanish flu. More places were shut. Lockdown was taking place, and then as the economy starts to reopen again, sales started to decline back to normal levels, but there's like despite when people were at home, more of ordering after these now or Cadillacs, just like today, everyone orders from Amazon while they're hunkered down at home, so if if if the sears catalog was the Amazon of that. What what was the Peleton of that Chris? I can't even imagine I feel there. There's some ridiculous contraption Some elastic bands, workout, machine or something I don't know there's a lot of an anecdote. Which are very reminiscent of today. Air were things like retail traffic was down thirty three percent some areas, but was interesting. Is that after the kind of reopening started to occur at? Some retailers, not all obviously reported that the kind of bounce back after the reopening mid up for more than the sales from when their business had to be shut down, so it's Kinda interesting what we should note on that note since you brought up retail sales that we are recording this on a June sixteenth at. About nine in the morning in just half an hour ago, today we got the retail sales for May and they came in way better than expected. They basically come in came in double on a a month over month basis of double, what people were expecting so as long as we're talking about the sort of ego side the pent up demand equivalent of the Spanish flu, this month's retail sales report would bear out once again a sort of a similarity, and it's interesting to see kind of today, and in the Spanish flu, the different industries and types of retailers that did well which ones didn't like today. Zoom and other companies like that Clark stock was rocketing for awhile, but in Spanish flu. Federal Reserve a bird showed that mattress sales actually increased something like forty percent or something, because bedrest was such a commonly prescribed. Cheer by Doctors for people who had symptoms, so people were just going by mattresses because our doctors talking to do is just stay at home at bedrest so randomly. The mattress industry did very well by other like retail groceries out. They dropped like a third, and then there are a lot of other businesses in. Town in Arkansas which is Thursday April folks sandwich. Some of their business job flakes seventy percent. So I am curious and you've touched on this already, but once the Spanish flu sort of fell away once the pandemic ended. Did we see? The economy bounced back for profits bounce back. And make up the lost income that had occurred during the outbreak, or was there sort of a permanent hit to output? So the problem with this period is. Like there's not as great economic data as you would think wishes frustrating obviously just at a time of this, everyone's looking back to find the economic data. There is some but from what I've read. The effect of the Spanish flu was pronounced, but it was over the short term on the nerves, a fairly quick back. As I, said like some of the examples of retailer, said that the business boom Wednesday it reopen made up for the losses incurred during the walk down, and there was some businesses that actually reported a increase over the prior year in sales, which was remarkable, but economy bounced back, but also yesterday keep in mind how much that was due to the Spanish flu in how much was due to the war ending, but announced back was kind of short themself, because in nineteen twenty, nineteen, twenty, one, then had a recession, but in terms of the Spanish flu impacts it seems to be. A short lived in back was pretty swift. Was the Reagan. Did they do any stimulus or anything like? was there any economic policy to counter the effect? I mean one of the things that's striking that a lot of people have said for the. Surprising resilience of the economy and the market during this crisis is just the degree to which policymakers moved extremely fast, perhaps having learned some of the lessons of the great recession about a decade ago. was there a economic policy response? That time around. Could've been not from what I've. Read I've read a number of papers on this and I don't recall seeing if there was, it wasn't announced enough to be an prevalent throughout the research that I've read. You! Yen the future-proof Payments Platform, welcome all payments beyond the cutting edge of customer experiences and grow your business with Adian visit Adeane dot com forward slash podcast to learn more. That's a D.. Y. E. N. dot com forward slash podcast. Tracing, it's interesting speaking of history. How often economic stabilization measures that we sort of take for granted is making sensitive downturn more spending lower rates, etc, like they just didn't know anything back in the day like crazy reading back of like past crisis. How like clueless policymakers looked relative to the sort of conventional wisdom today about what you need to bounce back. It's always stands out to me reading about past crisis in anything I mean I guess it depends? How far back in history you go? The Romans were pretty good at that stimulus A. We're going to get off track I. DO WANNA. Go slightly further back and talk about. The Middle Ages the black. Death Aka the great plague. A lot of people have been looking at that one in talking about the labor market. What might happen to wages and inflation and I've seen different theories on this, so one explanation says that after the great death, so many people died that there is a shortage labor and wages eventually went up but hurt. Other people say that one of the reasons wages went up is basically a bunch of the peasants revolted, and sort of violently forced a better earnings for themselves. What have you learned so far Jamie? Like what are your readings? Tell you on that topic. As if you survived than. In terms of the black death, everything came peasants legs a great time to be a peasant after the black death because. As you mentioned there, there is a lot of disagreement over which is crazy. sign it happens. Hundreds of years ago and they're still so much disagreement among. Economic, historians of what happened, but from what I've read there seems to be a agreement that there is a rise in wages after black that because as you mentioned so many people died and to put some numbers around it. The estimates are between seventeen and twenty eight million Europeans and the Thirteen, forty seven to thirteen, fifty three, and what made it actually so announced in its impact was the fact that it was one isolated outbreak. It kept coming back in waves for decades. I think Britain experienced thirty different outbreaks of lay between thirteen it. Reading like thirteen all. Fifty year period is good. There is an outbreak. Every four years of way so just kept coming back every time. They thought that they were done. It would just come back in each time. It was less. Less severe, but I mean still is the plague killing off, so it just kept coming back all over your, but in England. Who is basically every four years? But as you mentioned Tracy, because so many people died. What happened was at suddenly all these lords who had previously celebrities, manner systems, or the peasants were working the land and the Lord collect rent. A is from the peasants. They suddenly faced this problem where they had all. This land is a good thing, but suddenly now there weren't as many since to work until the land, so the peasants were able to demand higher wages, also, they had ability to shop around their services to other words retrieves. It wouldn't have been the case because every Lawrence. To hire people were for land at if the Lord a peasant was. Working for didn't offer them better. Working conditions, living conditions and wages naked, just go to another Lord, who would be willing to offer them those conditions, so or the peasant and other kinds of jobs related to agriculture, which outside of the city, nine out of every ten people were making a living related to or was soil in this period, which is crazy, they could go and get higher wages than there was one example of like a plowman. In thirteen forty eight years make two shillings a week and then thirteen forty nine. He was making racial lines a week. Lennon thirteen fifty, his wages grown to ten show a week so. One example of Mandy the feds gotTA. Raise rates. I wage growth. The. Facie hike rates, so I didn't realize until you said it just now that there were so many ways, but now I am looking at like. I'm looking at the WHIGHAM pedia page of the black death. It's funny. There's almost no way to talk about. All time things without automatically sort of superimposing modern conceptions of how the economy worked back onto them like joke about the ECB raising rates of sagoes, no ECB thirteen forty eight but I you know I. Wish like the first thing that comes to my mind is like it has to be like really bad for. Business capital expenditure plans because who wants to like plan for the future when there's so much uncertainty about the next time, the black death is gonNA come along. L., there was no easy, but they did. Try and control wages, which August two in the second grade overall that was one stark example of a guide, quintupled at recreate wages in two years, but overall the estimates are that wages rose twenty and forty percent from the thirteenth forties to the thirteen sixty s again, pretty pronounced, but one thing that was a counter to this rise in nominal wages was there was a substantial rise in inflation because gold silver supply, rene constant at the amount of Ebro decimated, so there was just a higher ratio. A gold silver per capita so much of those kind of nominal. Wage gains were offset by this inflation, but to Joe's point about EC or some regulatory authority, trying to control things. There was obviously a lot of a lot of set lords because they didn't want to deal with. These peasants were suddenly cocky knew that they kind of had leverage in this situation. And there are all these lords who are complaining about peasants who would barely do any work. a huge fuss about being asked to do anything if they did do jobs that they were doing haphazardly because they just knew that the Lord wouldn't be able to find a replacement for them, so the Lord's try to. Lobby authorities to do something about this problem. And What ended up happening was the government about two statutes in thirteen, forty, nine in thirteen, fifty, one I'm thirteen, forty nine. There was the ordinance laborers in the Statute of labourers thirteen, th you on which both were aimed at curtailing wages, and they go stipulated that wages for peasants had to be set free play levels and again. That was to kind of address this situation where people were. Getting five times what they were making before the plague, and there are also rules that the peasant leave kind of shop around his services to other Lords issue of people leaving manners being. Lord's being left with no one to tell their manners so there's no interest rate policy or anything, but there is definitely statutes put in place to try and prevent the wage growth from spiraling out of control. Sorry just to be clear. Who was putting? Who is making these statutes which which which which governing body, or which are royal family or whatever? It was my leave as parliament. got. Or Whatever This podcast is brought to you by manscaping. Who has the best men's grooming tools to get the job done? FELLAS listen up manscaping accidents or thing of the past. Get yourself the man scape perfect package three point zero inside. You'll find products like their lawn mower three point. Oh, which has advanced skin safe technology, so this traduces cuts everything you need to keep trimmed and smelling nice is in the perfect baggage. Three Point get twenty percents off plus free shipping with the Code Business Twenty at Manscaping Dot Com. That's man dot, com and use code business twenty. I wanted to go back to the the inflation point you mentioned the golden silver ratio to actual human beings. was one thing that was pushing prices up, but What did we see during the Spanish flu outbreak? Did we see I mean? We wouldn't have had the same type of Greenwich. And we might have had. Hit to productivity because of the war and Various disruptions, but would it be see in that one? Again inflation didn't come up as much as I thought, it would have during Meridian but I know that there was a brief uptick in inflation, but it seems like most of the effects for the Spanish flu were re even if they are on a severe. Dave were short lived. But for inflation I know that there is a short uptick, but I don't think that there is anything substantial again. This is also kind during the war, so the government was doing a lot and trying to control prices in terms of quotas, everything and keeping prices stable because I know that. After the war ended some industries, coal is one of them where government wasn't buying this. Help setting prices and stabilize them that the price kind of dropped after the war ended. Going back to the black debt I again I'm doing wikipedia history here, which is no no match for your wars series academic history, but there's a line in here then says the black death, most likely originated in central, Asia or East Asia from where travelled along the Silk Road, reaching Crimea by thirteen, forty seven, a does that fit with what you've read about the history of the black death in I'm curious. You know one of the things that's. That's come up with this crisis. And this virus is the degree to which it sort of his temporarily, and perhaps long-term changed trade routes, certainly trained travel routes, due to the fact that international travel is temporarily almost completely non-existent with these recurring outbreaks in Europe over the span of you know years and years and years were there any changes to trade routes that you saw the discovered in terms of other relationship between Europe and other the world. Not so much in terms of trade route, but there was definitely noticeable shift in was the type of. Products in like types of agriculture that was burned in England again is because if you were a lowered. Had One hundred acres, and previously you had fifty peasants were not land suddenly you has still had the same hundred acres, but maybe there is only fifteen seconds work Glenn, so you really weren't able to make use of that hundred acres, and so, what ended up happening? which again was great for the peasant was? The ended up. We seen renting out. Some of that acreage to ultimately has since you were able to get that land and make a better living for themselves, because they didn't have to share much of the Prophet with the Lord because they are actually renting the land themselves, but the Lord was also forced to then kind of move into. Of Agriculture. That flow less. Labor intensive, simply because it didn't have liver, two or more labor, intensive types of agriculture, so there was a push into things like animal, livestock, husbandry and. Nineteen more things like rapes, apples, pears, and this kind of stuff, instead of the more traditional grain harvests, which have been the case previously is those were labor intensive, so there's definitely a large shift in what types of crops the manners were producing which is pretty substantial. That show just. Big Picture looking forward and obviously we're. It seems to be. In this sort of post. Crisis period in the sense that, at least from an economic perspective and Cert- landmark perspective, a widespread view that the worst is behind this. What type of things would you look forward from history, or we'll kind of questions, do you still have is a student of history in terms of how how the Post Corona Virus period will transpire. I think that. Like many of us a I'm looking to see whether this kind of recent uptick in cases in some states that reopened is going to be something more lasting or other a brief uptick as we've mentioned it a couple times. Everyone is well aware of the second way of Spanish flu in although there are a lot of differences. As that. It's definitely interesting to see even before all the recent protests there seemed to be like around. Memorial Day some kind of like switch where people just? gave up on social distancing in lockdown, just judging by social media dramatically by sock going out, so I think that's interesting to look out for because there are a lot of birds and examples from the Spanish flu that are very reminiscent of today. Were there were? Protesting about not being able to operate their businesses in open up their shots. I interested to see if that trend continues, but also it'll be interesting to see. is in the next. Maybe crisis are crash. What people's expectations are in terms of monetary policy? Fiscal Stimulus based on what's happened this time around because it's one of those things where now that the door has been opened. What seems radical? This time might become the expectation the next time round, so it'll be. A lasting impact is just like logically might be the last time this happened. We got stimulus checks and the government really stepped in to try and. Save certain industries sectors, but now. You're saying you're not like. That should be interesting. You mentioned that you know everyone is seen these charts and storage of remember. The the second wave of the Spanish flu is worse than the I. of course, that's a lot of people mind coming into the fall. Blue season to the extent that the krona viruses in seasonal, which we don't know that much about, but was there anybody in nineteen eighteen saying I, remember you know what happened the second wave of X., or is the awareness of the concept of a second wave something that makes this unique, and thus may be a reason to think that history won't play out because when you when you can observe something, and when you can describe something usually don't get the same as last time. Think. Out of been by the second wave exact phrasing. They're definitely people who were advocating or Continued to lockdown in quarantine in nineteen, because they're aware that people continuing to go out and Amblin crowds only the 'cause, the glue to linger around longer, but what is interesting and related to your point is that when reason to be more optimistic today is the reason is called. The Spanish flu is because it didn't originate in Spain. The reasons called is because during World War, our or one, rather Spain was neutral and in other countries that were experiencing outbreaks dispensary like the US There's kind of a tacit agreement with the government media and government that the media was not gonNA report on bad news like a Spinach World War. One's going on and the government didn't want stories about Spanish clear. Running all over the front pages of newspapers, so there are definitely some stories on it, but they were kind of relegated to. The back edges newspapers, so there wasn't much coverage. In the reason that it's called the Spanish list was neutral, so they didn't have that kind of tacit agreement in place, and so they're the ones. Kinda openly reporting cases that were doing us reporting, so people started linking it with Spain even though it was Ali, occurring in their own country as well. It just wasn't as widely reported, but to your point is the fact that today it's the opposite. Where literally always read about his corona virus rice, so there is a much more wide spreads at American. Imagine anyone who doesn't know what coronavirus. And so everyone is going to be more cognizant of the risks involved in how and Where we can do things to prevent the continued spread of the virus, so that is definitely one major reason to be optimistic, is there? Much, broader knowledge of how to stop the spread. I think that's a good place to leave it. It's it's pretty rare for US nowadays to like end things on an optimistic note, so yes. There are Jamie Catherwood AKA finance history guy. Thank you so much for coming back on, and we should just mention. Of course. Everyone should check out your website investor Amnesia Dot Com. Thanks. Some. Thanks Jamie does great. So Joe I found that discussion fascinating I kind of knew that I would put all those little tidbits and anecdotes of how. History has reacted to previous pandemics ashes. Find it so. Fascinating. Yeah, absolutely Jim is just the best. I mean. Honestly I know I've been sort of gushing about his output and his website, but if you enjoy finance, if you enjoy markets, or if you just enjoyed general history following him on twitter and reading his weekly newsletter, things like that, it's just really interesting. He does a great job of going back to primary sources as well so often include cartoons of the time you know. Some of the cartoons that accompanied the Spanish flu are particularly poignant. It's just a really great thing to go over again. Maybe I'm weird I. Always Derive a little bit of comfort from going back in time and seeing what previous generations had to deal with and. And realizing that you know. Some things never really change. Yeah, no, I love it and. Even the fact that there was an Amazon equivalent of. Low is pretty amazing. 'cause I was like I thought. There's GonNa be a joker that there wasn't really going to be, but the fact that even even back then we're like similar industrial changes, and it's so point we should do like a history of the Cadillac what does it the JC Penney Catalog? Sears sears caceres this year's Kennedy. Yeah we should do an episode about the history of the sears catalog because I think it's a pretty pretty fascinating Nanna tone right now. How big of a deal that was absolutely absolute- giant of retail in the early night up early to mid nineteen hundreds, and then well, we can see what's happening today. Kind of makes you think about Amazon's business model does not absolutely us the other the other big point to consider from. From. Jamie is the notion that there are some major things that are different today so one we have more transparency when it comes to information about the coronavirus into we have the big big reactions from central banks and other authorities. I guess that's pretty different, isn't it? Yeah, absolutely all right well on that note. This has been another episode of the Office podcast. I'm Tracy alloway. You can follow me on twitter at Tracy alloway away. And I'm Joe Weisenthal, you could follow me at the stalwart should follow our guest. Jamie Catherwood. He is J. F.. C. Underscore three underscore as tracy mentioned, he is a great follow on twitter. We should follow our producer Laura. Carlson at Laura Carlson followed the Bloomberg head of podcast. Francesca Levy at Francesca today and check out all of our podcast Bloomberg under the handle at podcasts. 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Introducing: Bizography with Dana Barrett

TechStuff

02:29 min | 2 years ago

Introducing: Bizography with Dana Barrett

"Hey guys it's your beloved tech stuff host. Jonathan Strickland here was something special for you. I have a trailer for a brand new podcast on the IHEART radio network. This is bizarre girthy with Dana Barrett. Britt and Dana is a radio talk show host she. She hosts a tech talk show here in Atlanta. She's incredibly knowledgeable on business and tax. She's an entrepreneur herself. And she and her producer Nick Bean have tackled the stories of various companies to kind of give you a background on where they came from and how they got to where they are now the good the bad the ugly ugly sort of a general business approach to the kind of episodes. You've heard me do on tech stuff about various tech companies so if you dig those episodes I think it really going to enjoy this show so here is the trailer. This is bizarre graffiti the show where we dive into the strange but true stories of iconic companies whether they're occurrence Shining Star in the midst of a massive dumpster fire or settling into the dusty of history. They all have a past worth. Worth knowing I'm Dana Barrett I'm a former tech executive and entrepreneur and a T._v.. And radio host and over the course of my career I've interviewed thousands of business leaders and reported on the bright beginnings and massive amounts of the brands we know and love some of their stories. Razer inspiring some get my blood boiling and some just show how weird American consumers truly are each week on bizarre affi. You'll hear about all your favorite companies from P._B._R.. They were doing nothing in sales except weirdly weirdly enough in Portland Oregon to tender the idea of just swiping quickly through and doing it on your mobile phone while you're waiting in line at the grocery store is a whole different thing to sears sears. What he saw was the ability of?

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Ep 049: 2020 Local Marketing Trend #6 - In-Store Experiences

Marketing Above All

10:36 min | 1 year ago

Ep 049: 2020 Local Marketing Trend #6 - In-Store Experiences

"The cash from the chicken wing capital of the World Buffalo New York. You're listening to the marketing above. All podcast your source for all things well. Marketing and total world domination a nation. This is marketing above all. And this is your host Michael. Hey there and welcome back to marketing above all run episode forty nine and this is the six trend of seven and local marketing trends for twenty twenty. So this one is going to apply to you if you have a physical physical office or physical location at that you're okay with your prospects and customers coming to and the topic is in store experiences when I take a look at this whole retail apocalypse lips. Everyone has different theories and thoughts. And this is why we think it's happening and it's going to continue happening and retail's dead and there's all all these misnomers but when I look at why this is happening. There's always going to be lots of different reasons but among the biggest that I keep seeing and hearing is the retail locations that are dying. Didn't have a secret sauce. So I'M GONNA. I'll use big box. Names like toys R. US or look at sears. Sears isn't dead yet but it's been dying a pretty slow oh in painful death now. I know that you're not either of those locations but if you're operating a local furniture store appliance store local toy store. You WanNa make sure you're paying attention or any other local store when I dig deeper on Toys R. US and yes we can get into all the head cash issues and all of that. That's not what I'm looking at here. It's they didn't have reasons for you to get out of your house. Get Out of your pajamas and bring your kids to the store. You would bring them on days and maybe it was their birthday Earth Day or they had some gift cards and they would walk around the store and pick something out but those were on special occasions. You didn't have these big product launches. You didn't have the ability to do birthday parties at the locations nations you didn't have VIP clubs where the best customers could come in our before and get to preview you all of the new toys you didn't have Characters that were were coming and brand partnerships and they didn't tie in and with youtube or any kind of influencers or anything like that like there. There wasn't a bigger reason other than we sell L. A. Lot of toys at our store for you to come in the same thing with stores like sears. In a a lot of the stores that are in malls that are continuing to get decimated. There's a Lotta malls that are within fifteen minutes of my house And two of the three malls are just getting decimated in one of the three just was sold in their turning into multi use and all that good stuff but if I look at why are some of those stores in. They're getting crushed. It's because there's nothing unique but it's more so you have to now give someone a reason why they shouldn't go on Amazon and just order it and have it shipped to their house in in one to two days with free shipping on prime and be sitting on their porch. So why should I go to the the local store that that sells candles versus order that same candle on Amazon. Now you might say well it's price or it's good to shop local. Okay fine but if you start to compare apples to apples just because your local it doesn't mean that that's going to give you a leg up your customers and your prospects. They want convenience. They want price savings but convenience and time. That's why this whole Insta- mccart and having your groceries delivered is now becoming back into mainstream. I can't say the last time that we've went to the grocery store for and had a full grocery I mean like a full week's worth of groceries or anything like that. It's all delivered now via INSTA- cart. If that's going to save me an an hour to three hours a week. Why would I go to the grocery store now? The people then that are going into the grocery stores a they like to look at things themselves and they actually enjoy that but what the grocery stores are now starting to do is realize that they want to bring people in for experiences is because once you're in the grocery store rather than just ordering online you're adding extra stuff. So they're starting to do more beer tastings things wine tastings cooking classes events for kids things like that because otherwise it gets back into the commodity game where if your loyal to a particular grocery store you may not be as loyal. If you're you're literally just going to a computer selecting things you want and having them delivered to you you've gotta find ways to get people off their computer computer off the couch author mobile devices into your retail outlets or your physical locations. I've mentioned banks banks and credit unions local nature not big box. I mean ones that have fifty thousand locations like the Bank of America. Let's not with this podcast is about powder for it's the maybe you've got one or two locations or a couple locations only a small geographic area if everyone can do everything online. How are you then going to have those opportunities to upsell cross sell have those conversations that if the only time I come into My Credit Union is if I need to get some cash which I can still do it at ATM. How are they going to have those conversations with me and learn more about where I'm at with my business and where I'm at in life but if you then start to have some experiences at the credit union and you may be you start to do networking events and you do? Maybe a monthly little brunch for select members. Maybe the local be an I.. Business Networking International. Maybe the credit union becomes one of the locations. You give them free space. You've gotta find ways at Your Business if if you want people to come in to drive experiences you've got to find some waste to do it and you've gotTa make sure that unless there's an extenuating circumstance. I would really prefer not to be charging extra I would give you. I guess the Anti Case Study of what to do with a local toy store that I won't name on this podcast. But they've expanded other store and they have a whole section of Lega. I don't know if it's legos. Or an off brand of legos. I think Playmobil or something like that. And now what they've done is they want you to pay to come into their store to play with those particular toys. It's like the. How are you going to walk in the store to look at buying something? And then while you're GONNA have to pay for a child and an adult if you WANNA play with some of the toys that are already on display. It just doesn't make any any sense. You gotta find ways to drive people to those funny unique experiences got to find ways to do. Do it like the bass pro shops where they have the ability for you to come in and test out fishing rods and things like that in their store. They have unique experiences. I need you to think outside the box. Don't just think linear in the sense of well we can just do product demonstrations and things like that. Start thinking outside the box. Could you come up with the unique space to do birthday parties. Could you offer unique space for corporate events for small events guest lecturers. Could you do a holiday meal or something like that. Could you partner with some charities and open up your space. You wanted arrive things to drive your brand up drive in store experiences and you will really start to separate yourself from the pack so you can show people bowl that you can't just get everything on the computer highly. Consider the strategy if you have any kind of retail footprint or a business that relies on foot traffic and people coming in on a regular basis. Look forward to seeing you back here tomorrow for the seventh and final trend for twenty twenty marketing marketing. Michael Eisner signing off. Good Morning. Good afternoon and good night. See You tomorrow. Thank you for listening to this episode of marketing. Above above all. Get out there make a change and take some action and hey don't forget to leave a five star review and tell. Tell all your friends. This is the greatest marketing podcast. Ever ever they look forward to seeing you here tomorrow.

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Penelope McCourty in Number Six - COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

46:56 min | 2 years ago

Penelope McCourty in Number Six - COZY ZONE with Ben Weber

"Uh-huh It mccourty welcome to your cozy. John Thank you. I'm so glad that you're here to thank you so much for having me. I'm honored you to be in your home this home. It's like the amalgamation of change. Now tell me about that. I'm I've lived in this building for fifteen years and just went through a lot of career. Changes emotional changes all of that used to live on the ninth floor and the number nine symbolizes endings and the number six symbolizes relation. So moving down to number six and then also having outdoor space just it just was like it was perfect. It was like I was going through all these changes in my life and then this happened and I was like what happened in number. I think I was living in a place of consciousness where I had a lot of healing to do and so I had a lot of experiences that were really wonderful experiences but I think I I needed to go through this like it almost felt like I went through a planetary metairie like rotation up. There like that's what that's how deep it fell. Especially when I moved down here I that's what I was able to really recognize that that apartment number nine was about me moving through a lot of different things and then once they came down here Ideas became Kim crystallized. Wow I I'm really. I'm really interested in this. This notion of healing I Just to say that this project COSIES zone is so much about my own personal seeking and my own personal questions of how do we we stay warm and safe and okay in in a world that is as you said it in planetary rotation we are. We are hurtling through the vacuum of space. You know literally all of us and that's not even taking into consideration iteration what our mind is doing what our interpersonal relationships. They're doing there's a lot there's a lot happening and I I am really interested to hear about that healing in those discoveries and sort of what what brought you closer down to earth literally in this in this place Scott's true right because I am closer to the ground in this apartment. I think the biggest thing that I think I can take away away from the experience. Or how I how I look at it When I reflect is that I needed to become become extraordinarily honest with myself about my beliefs and thoughts and that has been one of my biggest this challenges like really trying to understand? What is I really believe? And I'm not talking about like oh I believe that everybody should blah ah Blah I mean I believe that I fucking suck right now like that kind of like the things that really are not cool and not life-affirming like I had to discover what I believed and still am. Don't get me wrong. I'm not like some guru but really just like taking 'em being soft often kind to myself in that so not saying like I I feel like shit or I feel like I'm I'm not worthy of whatever it is and then beating up myself for that allowing myself have the feeling and hugging myself. You know finding ways to light allow myself to tell myself okay. It's almost like parenting yourself in some ways to bring to close the closer realization of who you truly are we all truly are which is love being creative live is An artful living practice like none of us are ever not creative. Whether we choose to be conscious of it or not I do I do practice conscious creation and not anything that I'm like Like I'm going to produce something I just make and then it dissipates and move onto the next thing who would would an example of something like that. I have daily dance practice so every we day dance to whatever music is moving me or like you know I just want to work on twirling my head working with my head and then just let it go and I know that that work informs everything else that I do. Yeah that's beautiful. It's like somebody told me this. Really Great Statement. Make the plan. Forget get the plan. Yeah so I just do the work and everything else is Kinda GonNa come into alignment. I am a big fan of rainbows or like multi colored patterns so the wall that we're looking at right now is a wall. That's painted The color name is forensics so secretary Cada orange and then a friend of mine gave me that painting on the wall which is like looks like paint kind of in a gradation of different colors first and then I found this funky couch multicolored and it's not the most comfortable thing. But it's super cute and I've live slept on it and a number of people slept on it. You got a curl up a little bit curl up the actually the two arms go down. Oh Yeah so you can rest your like you can stretch out a little bit it. It's I feel like the seating is kind of hard and high but I I love it. It's super cute. And then I have a rug. That has kind of a similar color theme a circular woven rug with multi-colors and you no it's multicolored but it also feels very earthy. Yes I'd ask somebody. Somebody saw it and they were like. Oh that's very colorful now. Mike Okay I don't want to look like gets a preschoolers room right. No it doesn't it doesn't there's just something about and I love seeing people sit there. It looks like a picture should be taken can any of them. Somebody sits there yet sort of like a kind of a Harlequin kind of pattern. And there's a You've provided us with a a beautiful spread here S. You're telling me about lettuce. I am just like in love with lettuce all kinds of lettuce and I bought these lettuce boats. which the idea is that you can fill them with things and then eat them uh-huh and I just rip one out of the baggage shut my mouth and I was in New Orleans earlier this year and and I had grilled Romain Lettuce and I ordered it kind of like as a joke I was like that's just stupid. Like who grills lettuce. Oh my God. It's a thing and it is very delicious. I met I met your beautiful cat at Bologna. Yeah earlier where she now. She's chilling in her own cozy zone conscious right next to the toilet. I see she likes it in there. I think because it's the the upstairs apartment used to face the front of the building. Having a not a lot of Sun came in. This apartment is super sunny all the time and that's the only room that gets dark while thinks she likes to just go in there and have some some alone time. That's great and she also likes to go in there. Whenever anybody uses the bathroom in general she just has a love for that room? Good for her. Yeah you know my artistic identity very much is to be an educator and a facilitator Because I do see that as a as a performance process if feels it's like performance art to me to do it It has changed dramatically. Because you know it was a straight up dancer for a very very long time coming toward and did all that great stuff and then became an administrator which was a great thing for me to do when now I'm in this place that I'm trying understand how I would identify I've been working like a physical dramaturge for a number of pieces where I just go in and I out. The people people asked me to help them shape their work so not so much being a director but like looking at a work and saying okay physically. This is the story that you're telling. What is this relationship here if you turn your body's this way or if you do this or if you do that so it's all about the physical language of what performers Mercer doing and that has been? I WanNa do that all the time. I remember Somebody told me that they felt that dancers were the best actors because we just stay on task and every all the emotionality is there. But that's that's not allow it to be there But it's the it's the It's the emotional thinking stuff. That's intriguing to me. Like I want the language I'm a native New Yorker. This is one of the greatest towns to to grow up in if you're a dancer and I went to a performing arts high school and my dance. Teachers were safe so amazing and inspiring on so so many levels not just about like practice and rigor but how to look at at at the work that you do and how to look at the field how to approach. Sure the kind of work that you choose to do be thoughtful about what you WanNa do like I have. I have friends who were highly successful dancers and it's called them dance halls. 'cause they'll just dance at anybody they'll go. I got this GIG. I got that Gig and I was never that dancer. Always WanNa dance with people that I was like. I'm really a fan of this work. I think I can learn something from this work. I think I can bring something to this work so my first real professional experience and started like my last year of high school Last year of High School for Shiro college sort of In my last year of high school I I did my first year of college and I met a dance teacher who became one of my mentors And she was the first person she choreographed a solo on me she first person in pay meted actually danced professionally and at this point. I say this because I think of myself as being a professional dancer I was just kind of going with the flow. Oh I'm like Oh okay oh you okay so I just kind of flowed with it did that. Throughout my league teens and in early twenties I was studying with this choreographer That had been studying with her for maybe like a year up until this point Neymar lease year. Be and She's the choreographer of the musical rent. She had a dance company. Those the touring dance company and I did this summer workshop with her and and at the end of that workshop Marley's asked me to join her company that Kinda catapulted my dancing career and I dance with her for a while. Now I still consider myself to dance with her because every once in a while she'll ask me to teach something or So dance with her for about four years and that was interesting interesting because even though I had worked professionally prior I'd worked in pickup situation so I just the project and then it would disband like we would just do these projects but with Marlene was a company so we worked on a lot of different things and developed community together an ensemble together and those are people that I still care about and love till this day. I mean it's kind of hard not to be intimate with a person once you know. You've rolled around in their crotches in your face like you become kinda intimate But what really kind of shocked me was this idea of Really having to follow Allo someone's technique really having to stay true to what the choreographer's voices not what my voice is ours. Even though my voice played a role all in that clearly So that was that was a struggle night never danced in a company before with dance exchange. I eight or ready had experienced teaching older adults and a friend of mine said to me. You know you should really check out dance exchange because they're across generational dance company and she's like I know you like the old people so this friend of mine says that to me and I go on their website and I had already heard of listen and dance exchange up until that point but I started investigating them and I was just like Whoa. I think I WANNA do this or I want to be a part of it or I want support it I wanna do whatever so sentiment email. I'm good for this. I just sent cold emails. I really like you. Do you like me back. It was Kinda I like that. And so they. They told me about an audition that they were having in New York. I almost didn't go because it was nine thirty in the morning on Saturday. And that's Kinda wack but I went and the rest was history a good portion of my teaching. And how I teach and how I look at teaching dance comes from Dance Exchange for sure And then I left dance exchange and then I did a couple of projects like I assisted. was assistant choreographer on several different plays and and then I joined Reggie Wilson Fist in he'll performance group and toured with them for about four issues for five years All very different companies. But they all were cross generational people full of different ages. They all used voice which was very important to me to be able to know that I could either speak or sing on state or scream onstage. So all the amused voice and all of them are very interested as much as their technical rigor they were interested in what you brought to The plate plate. I remember my addition. Liz Lerman I think I sang in addition to danced. Some girl played Tuba like we just the brought all kinds of things. That's what I love about doing that. Work is the Camaraderie of working with the same people over over and over again and you start to develop like. It's just like a second sense with other people and it's like an intimacy with someone else. That's not romantic antica sexual and that's really beautiful like it's a hard thing I think for some folks to understand is I'm very huggy with my dance friends. That were very very physical. And I've had folks to be like. Oh are you dating that person. And I'm like no we just danced together like we're just used to being physical. My mom is an incredible incredible improvisational. Liszt's dance my dad is like a comedic dancer. Like he always has to crack a joke while he's dancing. Those two ladies man mistrial triable and Miss Rubin who Miss Reuven Ist is like one of my advisers now like I go to her if I need help about how I should teach something They were so progressive and health conscious. And just so both of them were like my height or I think Miss Reuben is a little taller than me. May both of them were not skinny. Minis they had bodies and they had incredible technique and they were very much about Having a a positive healthy body image in addition to my family because Being Caribbean having some weight on your body is actually considered lovely an a plus and all of that so I never had any of the so grateful so when I did there are times where I I encountered kind of like negative ideas about the human body. They were so foreign to me that I was just like. I don't even know how data respond to you This one Throwing it's all this story. I'm gonNA tell it so. I auditioned for a scholarship at the Dance Fleet of Harlem when I was about fifteen and My dance seizures. Were really great. We auditioned for everything. Like from from ninth grade upward. They would and they would drive us to auditions. Go auditioned for a chorus line. You'RE NOT GONNA make it but you should know what it's like to audition. They would just do stuff like that and and so they really pushed us to like be out there in the world's as dancers so my dad drove me and like four or five and my friends to the Dance Theatre leader of Harlem and we have these numbers on and we're at the bar and the founder and artistic director Arthur Mitchell so like say my numbers number thirty to thirty two. How much do you weigh? And I found that to be such a weird question to ask in front of a group of thirty other young women and and I was like I think like I don't know one twenty one thirty and he's like you know the camera put twenty pounds on you and I was like I like my brain. Might innocent brain was like how can a camera to why okay well camera. What camera is there a camera put it on me now? I just was so like I thought I understood where he was getting at. But I wasn't quite sure you're so that my dad picks us up after and he asks asks us how it went and tell them the story and he got so angry angry and I was like. Why are you angry? Like I don't understand. Like what did he say to me and my dad was A. He's trying to shame you he's trying to call you fat and I was like. Oh Oh that was really the first time that it hit me like different ways of thinking about the human body as a dancer But I never let it bother me. 'cause I think I'd had such a strong foundation now. Don't get me wrong there. There are things that I'm like. Oh I wish I was a little more flexible. Oh I wish I didn't have the pot belly. I have right now but choose fully. I'm just like this is this is what it is and it's doing all right so but I think that was that's definitely a direct result of Having the type of family that I had And the type of teachers that I had I could've have easily ended up in a situation where I could have been told things about my. I was constantly telling my body was beautiful so I could have easily ended up in a situation Shen where that wasn't and I have some students now who have are are either in or have been in those kinds of situations with dance. Teachers select doing that. Healing healing work with young bodies is deep like. How does that healing work? I mean I think it mostly comes from Really Really Being a witness to what they're doing And then letting them know that you've witnessed them and that you know like I have this one student WHO's student of very famous? Dan School I will not name anymore. Names and She's my dance us. This girl is like a noodle incredibly incredibly flexible. She just does not have muscle tone. So that's what I like. I'm like that's my assessment. Like you actually don't have to worry about flexibility ability at all the two things you have to think about is like developing your muscle which is going to be hard. Because you're very thin in your body. You're very flexible. You need to to start moving towards the Yang and really just talking about the the task in the skill at hand as opposed to you can't dance and she would do this thing and I called her out on it. She'd be like yeah. You know mismatch always on my case. 'cause I can't dance. That was her stick for a while and I was like hold on. Where's this coming from? And she was like well. You're always giving me notes. How much everybody gets notes? And that was like also what I've told you which which I did. Tell her. Is that the type of flexibility she has. She actually has a lot of potential if she wanted to develop her strength to really like move forward as dancer if she wanted to And I said if you make the choice to just make a commitment to dance right now even if you don't make a commitment once you graduate you will give everybody in this room a run for their money and I said that to her personally I said to her in front of everybody And then finally she said it again and I said okay. I'm GONNA stop you. Where is this coming from and it turned out? It came from an old dance teacher. Who told her she couldn't dance? told her she was untalented. And this is the language of person used. There's no need ever to break the person down to build them up. You can be strict. You can be rigorous risk. You don't need to shame a person's ability or body and so what I just said to you. I just say stuff like that to to them right now. We're doing skips in class. And literally like half of them are like forgot how to skip and they started to beat themselves up and they. It's a listen skipping like one of those things so inherent in us that when somebody actually asks us to do it we kind of freak out and our intellect gets in the way way. I'm like you have to practice getting past that. Don't don't take it as like. Oh you know I'm a horrible dancer you just I asked. Do you do it so your brains playing tricks on you so I just like talk real talk and I see dancer and everybody that I that I work with. And that's not being. I'm being pretty sincere about that. Like I see a dancer and everybody that I work with so I just speak truth to power I just the witness and I say what I see so that seems to kind of work but then obviously whatever a person's having going on inside they're going to have to do their own personal Komo that we'll get into that moment. Tell me tell me how Arts Education and facilitation nation is performance art. This summer I taught at a senior center and I actually hadn't taught seniors in a very long time even though that was a big part of my teaching work performance work It had been a long time and You know when I walked into the space it became about who is in front of me. And how am I interacting with them. M are we going to interact correct as dancers or are we going to interact storytellers and so just like having that vulnerability of just being open and whatever actually conjures up is what what is That's how I feel generally about teaching like I may have a lesson plan and I know that You know part. The educated education part of a goal is that I'm teaching the skills but really I think there are a lot of it is a remembering of of some things Things things that people already know how to do and do naturally but actually I what. I'm teaching them as I should know. We put this in a system and these are the words we use for that. The thing that you always do or you know you know what this is you know what this is. You know what this is. What happens if we put them all together because for me the process is really about people? Using creativity to transform themselves were transformed their experience in the moment so in order to do that I have have to also be transformed in the moment and I need to be president of particular way. What I do is not a Solo Act at all? Even if I'm lead facilitator acilitator on something. I know that I am backed by ancestral knowledge. that is not just of my own bloodline but also of of my. My fields bloodline like I know that Martha Graham's behind me I know that Pearl Lang is behind me. I you know what I mean and one of the things about dance that I really love is that There's just this habit for dancers and dance teachers to talk about who their teachers are like when you're teaching something you call out their name. You're like I learned this from so and so and I think that's really important to make that connection not just for myself so I stay grounded but also for the people that I'm I'm teaching like you meet teaching you. This means you're connected to this lineage. Also so this is a lot bigger than us and it is also all about us so oh I live in a in a neighborhood. That has a very strong Caribbean culture. And also you know. This area used to be thought of as a little Panama because people who moved to New York from Panama moved to this neighborhood and my parents were no different. Can I say what neighborhood it is. Yes Crown Hi yes thank thank you And I think it's one of its ancestral. Names was crow. Hell no Kane But yeah so I I am definitely you know when when and I was younger me and my siblings and cousins we would make fun of the language and the different things it within it because we were living like these dual lives lives like at home we lived very Panamanian and in school we lived very American so when I got older It took a while for me to they. Actually like embracing incorporate. Mike Caribbean into not just myself. But my dancing as well But I'm very aware of it. And even more hyper aware of it because a lot of my dancers share my same linear share my same story first generation American irs. So I realized that I had to really kind of embrace my experiences of first generation her in order to mirror for them. What they're like? This is what it looks. It's like when it's an it's forties. y'All well yeah yeah. You're the ancestors now exactly well will mean a few friends of mine. We call ourselves junior elders and so we give each other junior elder lessons junior elder moment. Where acted told me something and I don't know if I sounded like my grandmother? Did I sound okay when I said this should. I have told them that you have to start getting ready. Do you have a responsibility. We all have a responsibility on each other. Even you know at times when we don't really want the responsibility I know which is often for me but yeah we have to. And if you have a gaggle of people that can help you stay on task and help you like you know. Yes yes you need to be responsible because you are a mirror for other people. Yeah I had a conversation with a friend of mine. I'm just about like this desire to be an adult and not feeling like an adult and I have a sneaking suspicion that like I. I don't feel like an adult and yet I also if if someone was to sort of objectively observe the things that I do on a daily basis basis like it is very adult like you know I. I took care of all the animals I wrote the rent check and I like made shirl the budget stuff like for our household was all all set. Put the dishes in the dishwasher. And and you know just did all this stuff and like in my mind. I'm like I I don't you know it's not like the the Inter narrative is not like. Oh yes I'm everything is right as it should be read everything good like I just feel like a mess. Yeah and like I have my entire life as a child and so this messy through line exists. Yeah and I wonder I don't know I've always fantasized about being an old man and so like really getting ready to be the always sort of been like this junior elder and and there's a lot of things happening here but I guess. Do you feel like an adult. Do you feel like a a junior elder. I two and I'll tell you what it what it is it's it's trans mutating. My emotional state eight to recognize when I'm being immature emotionally and that's really mostly what it is like recognize it like the thing I told you about evolving like recognizing it and then allowing the expression of that to evolve me to another place in my understanding of what I'm sensing I don't think there's ever a one specific thing because I mean really I do feel very Childlike in general. I don't think feeling childlike negates. adulting okay but I think adulting is like being present with another person listening to another person. I think adulting is knowing that okay one spend leaves rather than just leave these dishes here for three days is going to make me feel so much better like taking care of myself as adulting. It's GonNa make me feel so much better if I clean not. Yeah you know. It's just just those kinds of things of recognizing my emotionality. And how am I going to. How am I going to process through as opposed to just getting back chips? Awesome lying on the couch for the next forty eight hours over you which is not a bad like this is not a horrible thing. You know really great plan really great but maybe not all the time right not on everything. Yeah so I am a part from the many gigs that I do. I'm I'm actually the development assistant for an organization called the Cozy Cozy Zone Foundation. Oh which is It's a very well endowed film Tropic Organization Okay and their sole the purpose is to fund artistic. Collaborations talked a lot about like kind of reckoning with the Self And I also I'm also very moved by you. Know Movement dramaturge Rama Turkey or or physical physical dramaturge. Yeah and that there was sort of like you. I think you said like that's like this is what I want I wanna be doing. That's what you want. I mean I definitely do it as a teacher. It definitely informs my teaching a lot but I would like to do it for all kinds of folks. I work really well with actors. physicality love to do it like just more okay and not directing no no just you know. Let me help helping shape. Yeah so I wonder. I wonder if that's A. That's an interesting that might be a jumping off point so this idea of like physical dramaturge and reading essentially like reading and feeding back physical movement. I mean that would be helpful. That that's a helpful full-service you know in life even beyond artistically. It would be nice to know how you're coming across and then like Rehearse Edmundo it real good the next time. Yeah one of my earliest memories of looking at taxed and movement was being in the Catholic Church and watching priests like you you know to song to and do all these gestures and look and the seemed to me that they weren't there. They were present but they were looking at something other and that intrigued me and so then I became a people watcher. And this is something that I generally don't share it with people because some people know this but you know it's creepy. 'cause I watched the way people move all the time so I can and not just culturally America like different cultures Not just like gestures that people share but what does it mean when your body is in different positions and so almost when when I see a person move I already hear language so it becomes about translating what I'm seeing into actual verbal language and that's a way of holding space To be to reflect for another person this is what. I'm feeling that you're telling that you're expressing. And then I want to say this there is a choreographer who I would love to study with Who already ready have felt? She's my teacher. Even though I've never met her Anna Halprin Anna Halprin's about ninety four ninety six years old She was like kind of a contemporary temporary of Martha. Graham incredible educator like just really like knocked things like just was she was breaking dance she broke dance and she moved to California with her husband. WHO's an architect and they? They work together quite a bit because her relationship to space was very specific and so was his and She suffered from cancer twice and she healed herself from kanter twice and the last time she had cancer she didn't know at first that it had come back but she could feel something off in her body and she made a she paints but she doesn't herp option paint for public and she painted her body on a piece of paper and she was like what. Let me paint what my body feels like. It was all very dark and then she danced it out in front of an audience and she made her healing and then after she did that she flip the page over and painted another another version of her body after excising all of that so it is a thing that's done where people use dance an art in front of people bowl to really just get it out in his russet. The idea that I'm having that perhaps incorporate appropriate this is developing like a liturgy. How do you feel about this idea of like a book? I like that idea I I like. I wonder too like a book. Can't teach you everything. And linking especially like in. How dances transmitted right? It's transmitted admitted in present. Doesn't like in. You have to be watched. Someone's bond with someone. Yeah and so I also like I'm thinking of like you know you need like a library. You need like you need a house of worship or you need you need like you need a place as well as you know sacred texts texts and hand. It seems to me that there's also like the book is also filled with assignments Right so that a person can construct something that is correct for them. Yeah as opposed to here is the word right it. We all have the same word but perhaps we all have the same tasks. Yeah and we incorporate them yeah differently and then those tasks can also so be just Guidelines to because how a task may hit you in that moment Like for instance. If I don't have time to to take a bath in salt water I might put water in a glass with some saw and then splash myself. Because I don't you know what I mean like. You make adjustments for that idea media. Yeah yeah so like A. It's a it's like a collection of sacred like aesthetic practices for Healing Uber. Self grounded and present in helmet. Yeah and so I mean. Essentially it is a religion of sorts it. So that's what we'll do we'll fund new love and we I think we should. Maybe we have to. You'd like that's what we'll do. We'll fund new release. It will make a new religion. What what are we gonNA call the religion? I don't know you know what's interesting is that before You came in. I'm a big fan of documentaries raise And I was just watching a documentary about Ramdas and Timothy Leary. Who are LSD kings right there the guy's nose Tiki? Yeah the both of them together kind of brought LSD to. He wasn't called Ramdas at the time. Right right yeah but They brought it to to the masses. And you know everybody said that Timothy Leary destroy that particular generation and Blah Blah Blah but it's LSD that Ramdas to where he ended up Maybe they have an idea there must have been like if I was watching them. Because I just literally this morning was like let me. Because I've studied a little bit Ron Ramdas and I know a little bit of Timothy leary and a new a little bit of their story. Some getting like a really good like really good information about their story but they talk about ritual You know they talk about set and setting Talk about creating space to be able to PSYCHEDELIC. -Ly go on. He said venture the to sort of bad ideas that I was thinking about something like void or and then voice MHM Void Voice. No voice void. No but like voice. Or you know I passed like the Feldon christ-centered that's Feld in crisis. A thing I feel like this is this religion is very Felton Belden Kreis yes religion. Have you tried. Holden inquire once a long time. It's nice lovely. It's really lovely. I mean talk about not intellectualize process is all about not the the intellect of the physical physical corporal body. Yeah Yeah Yeah. That's the shit. That dude knew what the was onto some stuff. Yeah I don't know I wonder if he was on LSD. To I know really yeah. Yeah he got injured in the army so smart anytime I am done with the class my body feels like who's Ooh I'm like. Whose body is this? It's great I mean for me like looking at this couch and I'm like rainbows in my religion. Rainbows eight of Palate intention being be want create f hope feel Cradle witness witness. There is a there are already there. Is there the Jehovah's Witnesses. Yeah witness feels pretty close. Yeah see you're Lu- but then what a few non seeing person same with witness true but then and you know witness doesn't necessarily have to or seer right maybe it doesn't have to do with Vision you're your doesn't right because like yeah What's his name The oracle or the blind anti-racists. Yes was a senior sear. Yeah he was he was. I mean really both sears roebuck sears sears sears seer the seer see because and then the pope is the the Holy See right see zero okay the seer Sierra beer own sear yeah. That's kind of a long name per religiously your own sear be your own sear. BYA Ozier B. Y. B. Y. O. S.. Oh what are you. I'm here I'm here I'm a seer I'm sear You know when you said like that. Made me want you to read my Tarot Cards. Oh Yeah Yeah I just felt like I was go lead some cards here I'm sear. I'm Sierra we're I'm Sierra. We're seer seer seer. Great got it got it. That's a religion It's only us to right now. Yeah that's okay. The foundational get honorable just draft draft our little report Senate up in it'll happen. Yeah I look forward to it. My goodness thank you so much for this thank you. This is is really great. I so appreciate an opportunity to just play creatively and not like I've definitely been in for a number of years at this place of like get outta producer head like don't think about creating something that you're gonNA performance so opportunities to play. I always play by myself uh-huh but to play with another person as grand it is so grand it's green for me to Any final Final advice I might want some like maybe like teacher. Advi like as a as a as a educator who's striving to be better non verbal communication is really just incredible. And it's beyond just queuing sometimes. It's just being a standing next to kid and breathing that Kim by finding their Own Breath finding how they stand having a low a level of empathy There's this really great movie that I'd like I said I I love documentaries. And there's this movie called Buck and it's about the real horse whisperer like there was a movie called the Horse. Receiver Robert Redford. So this is the Guy who taught Robert Redford the role of horse was and he is a horse restorer he travels all around the Midwest and he teaches people how to train and ordeal with their horses. Yo this movie had. I've watched it at least three times. It taught me so much about teaching any talks to people about how to work with horses. He's like he's like standing next to a horse's not his he's I should just be able to do do this. And the horse will just follow energy and move and he did it he just went and the horse just moved. And he's like it's because I'm connected to the Horse but the reason why is because he was horribly abused as a young person and he said I can tell when someone or something is in complete fear era of its life and I let it no in my energy that I am not GonNa do that to you. I'm going to be with you and I'm GonNA listen to you him in the horse. Don't speak the same language like he's amazing. One of my pieces of advices. Watch that movie definitely teach you a lot about just being in a room with people and now having having to use your voice or intellectuality just to be able to look at kids and be like. Yeah I'm here with you even when a kid is like ill you looking at it and I'm like I'm looking at you. What's up with that You know what I mean penalty. Thank you so much thank you then. This is great. This is great. I love talking about myself. There's the ego of course courses. I love that you love it. We love it to be. Yeah yeah all right. Well I'll see you right after this. Okay Okay Bye bye. Finding rpime Arpey C. N. E. interviews friend. Uh It's awkward then zone occasionally. It's a lovely. I think somebody's so snuggle up. Sweet Beautiful

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GT MINI FAILS: Cornavirus Cure Scam

Ghost Town

19:06 min | 1 year ago

GT MINI FAILS: Cornavirus Cure Scam

"Niggly Mohan Steve Green from this. They don't tell you podcast we would come into our podcast. It's about telling you all the things. We wish that we knew. But now we know all this though. We wish that people would have told us but they didn't and then now we have to tell you about it like credit cards finances. Planning a wedding travel all kinds of what they don't tell you about also if you ever wanted to know they don't tell you about Nick Cage. We've got you covered on that. If I had this podcast I would have been so much more cultured by now and I probably wouldn't use sentences in front of prepositions all kinds of things all kinds events so took. Actually they don't tell you every. Get Your podcasts. The Corona Virus Scam. I'm Rebecca leap. I'm Jason Horton and this ghost town. Southern California man who claimed He created a cure for the corona virus is in federal custody tonight accused of trying to scam people out of their money. You got a million hits on instagram which proved to be his undoing. This is Keith. Yes I hear that shuts down the seal. Id Nineteen on his social media videos. Keith middlebrook claimed He created the cure for corona virus over six weeks may see cells from chronic virus detach release and diving forty eight hours. This is it right here. The preloaded ingestion. He also promised this pill would make you immune to the virus just to be clear. There is no cure. No vaccine no drug that stops corona virus. The US Attorney says this was a scam aimed at extracting money from gullible. People and injecting it into Middlebrooks Bank Account. He was then soliciting investments in his company and promising massive profits in return. I've been studying cell tissue and chemical biology for well over two decades. I'm beyond qualified. I think omniscient the word is omniscient. Which means all knowing middlebrook clearly was not FBI undercover agents busted him for allegedly trying to sell them the phony medicine now. The fifty-three-year-old with homes in Westwood Newport Beach and Marietta is socially isolated in jail. These charged with one count of wire fraud. He could get twenty years in prison. If you're wondering how low you have to be to take advantage of people during this time. Ask Keith Middlebrook. Oh It's a beautiful name is not attached to a beautiful person. No he was arrested for selling a corona virus antidote make. You're actually just cure. Not even not even a cure a cure just like he he selling like M. and M.'s. Me Like it's a pill that secure. Is that how you make money back? In the day an opinion you WanNa buy some breads Greenham. I don't love scammers scammers now. We don't have scammers but there's something particularly heinous about this. It really takes advantage of people saying like you know. Get rich quick or a multi level. Marketing scam is a little more passive. Because it's not taking advantage of a pandemic exactly. There's a desperation around as there should be. There's there's this feeling of needing an answer wanting an answer. We the time that we live in right now is so hard. It's it's hard for all of us may feel specifically shitty in. There's so much information. Obviously going back and forth people want you read our blog posts. Read our news article and he right now. We're no different in the sense but came across Keith. Middlebrook because in the world of actors he the the article about what he did was like actor. Keith middlebrook and so you look and it's like by actor it's like he might have done some unhealthy of Scott says profiles pretty much something like that. And that's that's not a comment on what acting is not really important but that's how I quote wind of it. Yeah and then. Of course I have to look and it's just another huckster set the right word. Slick huckster yeah. I don't know very twain. Yeah like a kind of a just a after. Yeah liquid oil salesman but on so many levels because you've seen articles. That people are hoarding masks and hand sanitizer and again totally awful. But at least I guess with this at least if somebody saw you over priced hand sanitizer. You're getting what you actually pay for. It would be. Here's some hand sanitizer. But it's just Alabama or something like that so at least in that sense as horrible as that is but this is something that he's selling that's too good to be true and the persona behind him is obviously makes it super compelling. I believe main. Instagram account is down. But there's a couple of I don't know if they're from him or from other people just capitalizing on his name and this is pretty reason this is. We're going back maybe a month from when you're listening to this. Maybe unless this is probably one of the more topical things we've discussed we've ever gone back a month every once in a while. I'll talk about something that happened to me a couple of weeks ago but this is this is everyone cares about this and the the outcome hasn't even happened yet. We have a few more days before the outcomes may will follow update action happening. Update this guy. This feels like it deserves. An update is what I'm saying. He advertised I guess. I'll use the word. Allegedly for all this because he has not been convicted of anything yet. So I'm putting that out there. This is a blanket alleged. Whatever is happening is all alleged legally. It's in process for sticking up for this person. Yeah this won't be the thing you're gonNA use kick him so he advertised on Instagram and just to let you know. He's assured his instagram. Yes I did or a copy of instagram. And he's you know maybe it was like in his early fifties late forty S. He's clinging desperately to his forty eight year old self. I would pretty buff dude. Pretty buffed he looks like a streetfighter. Yelling Yeah Yeah. Not the streets heavily pixelated. He's like a video game character very tan. Very probably a little bow talks definitely and he's got really dark dyed black hair like black hair. And then you can tell because it's like it's receding so far. He's he's just clinging to it. I would know anything about that. I'm just turning twenty nine graceful. Yes no it's very natural. It's just how I do it. It's like damn and he also is one of those people who he is a genius entrepreneur of course had had to make money how to generate wealth life coach. Yeah how to get. An eight hundred credit score is one of his yes. That's one of the things he uses to say. Oh I don't know how come I have an eight hundred credit score. Yeah want the proof. I did a screen. Grab of the word. The number eight hundred seventy and I put a little dial at the bottom. You could tell. He's like if you saw as tinder profile would have the score as one of his photo options. The other three would be Jim selfies. Guy Doesn't own a shirtless leaves. No unless you seeing is very shiny business suit. He's maybe in a limousine that Shiny Ron Fabric and I'm sure he's in a pie. Jesu baby can pj but the most to. Hey I mean as far as I know. We know the most heinous of what he's been accused of is selling a corona virus prevention. Pill awful awful. Oh but there's more what an injectable cove in Nineteen Formula Vaccine Cure. Okay so you have options. You live scam options. He also claimed that Magic Johnson was on his company's board wasn't Magic Johnson also in Tiger King. Recently I think he was Johnson. You should get some PR people A revamp you don't WanNa be associated with these people and he promised potential investors millions of dollars in returns. Obviously it's like. They were a knows. He was arrested after delivering his prevention pills to an undercover FBI AGENT. So there was a sting was in a Rico case. He's like I want four. Pp's check mewat. Thirteen hundred o'clock cool. I'm GonNa Camera Pretty Much. So he claimed he was about to. Mass produce cure the Justice Department said he got about two million views on youtube an instagram of course and he spoke to people about investments. One was an FBI agent in one cooperating witness. Somebody who's like yeah. He scammed the all over one hundred fifty thousand dollars shirl testify against him. He's charged with attempted wire. Fraud Wire Fraud Mail fraud. Don't mess with that now. Don't get fan. Mail fraud carries a maximum penalty of twenty years in prison. He's describing bio is a genus entrepreneur and genius the inventor of the quote cove in nineteen immunity and Co Corona Virus Cure. It's just dexsa Trim. It's just a pill. What's the Kardashian weight loss pill magic? Gummy bears okay. That's true they just haven't yet. I need to buy more sensitive. There is a cure right here. Going to mass production he said in a post on March Seventeenth viewed over six hundred thirty thousand times now. I'm going a little caveat caveat to that I looked I'm pretty good at reading social media data and you look at his numbers of the views and there was one post where of course what I go to this is Michael. Do not like what you're doing is immoral and unethical. Mine is like these numbers seem fake so I go and I look and they'll be a video has three hundred thousand views but only seven comments which is even if you have a bad engagement rate. It's an away like let me if I ask three hundred thousand people. Something in only seven respond. Yeah that doesn't make any sense now. Chances are it's bought embodied and to you know which is that's not the end of the world but that's a thing to be like wow of all these other people are viewed. There must be something to it. Yeah and if he's the kind of guy to sell a chronic virus cure he's the kind of person to Lyon is social media and that's like an old social track at this might make you like him a little bit more. This is going to save and change the world. Yes I have a meeting set up with President Donald Trump. He ended the press holding a syringe containing a clear liquid. The video remained online at the time writing to the time. This information is out there in March now in Donald Trump's defense wall probably doesn't know about this is a chance that offer price guy is just to be fair. Yeah I mean. He doesn't know who a lot of people are right so he definitely opened up this guy. Definitely this guy. I also think it's really hard because the information that we're getting because it's so of the moment I get how people would stumble upon us. I guess I'll try indulge because again. It's time where everyone wants answers. Everyone's help and we're getting all Iq especially with an unemployment and stuff like that so many things policy-wise like whatever money we're getting from. The government is changing so quickly. I think I have a lot of empathy for people who thought that maybe this was an option. You say you know what the buyer beware and everything like that but you don't know where people are emotionally and he's capitalizing on that and that's what makes it so horrible as a really bad. It's not even like a cure for a cold which I'm sure you know. Maybe homeopaths might claim. I don't know I can't speak on that but when you're in the middle of it it's a really tough place when you probably know within a couple of degrees somebody that has been affected by in some way. It's not one of these things that's happening somewhere else. And you can only be sympathetic. Empathetic like this is like. You're probably pretty empathetic at this. Because you're probably feeling it and it's it's tough and you're like well I can't afford to get this because I have a family or I have responsibilities and I can't let them down and this guy he's got he's Tan. Yeah so he's you know he's very he's a settlement. Why would he was verified and instagram? Which is as somebody who's verified and in okay? I don't take advantage of that. No you're not you're you're very humbled by it. You serve it more than you take. 'em Like look at the picture this old building. We've got a look at it. Yeah exactly all right in another instagram clip. That was viewed. At least one million times he displayed a pill and said it makes it impossible to contract the disease for those who have tested positive. I'm also really worried. That these pills. And these whatever's in the syringe are paying like hurtful like the guy that what did he eat like. There was some some person that took some medicine and died in Muslims malaria. Or it's like what does even. Okay let's it's a hoax. It's fake but what is even in their cooking the stuff up in like a big tin drum outside of his. I honestly hope it's something that's just. It's just a water pill or placebo me to that. Bet that's where I hope. Here's a little more from the scripture of Keith Lawrence. Imagine mentioned that his middle may see the Warrenton. Oh sophisticated and middlebrook definitely is last name. Yes I've developed a cure for the krona virus cove nineteen that's period after six weeks of intense focus and development six weeks but but intense focus. He's not talking. He wasn't like being diverted by instagram. He was letting other people he was eating. His sleeves rolled up. Yeah exactly. He was having lean cuisines. Not Bothering cooking probably shower. That much focused Tan was very uneven focus and development and development and he's very little sleep. What probably because cain cocaine that guy in all you know. That guy smells awful. He's probably eighty five percent. Admiral that's generous you. I would say it's more cocaine. I'm currently going to mass production the CDC the WHO and mainstream media capitalized right have created a pandemonium environment. Just zero it's pandemonium is Great. It's like I'm reading a breaking news piece in the New York Times to answer this just because it's what I do. I've created corona virus prevention pill after three days of taking the person is immune to the virus and stays immune as long as they continue to take it once a day in the morning. You can't so I took it after ten. Am What's morning? Do we know a morning is is it? Is it like a list if you live in the nightlife if I'm at a hotel it's like? Is it the time where I get my continental breakfast? And that's like six minutes is seen or is it more like a relaxed like ten thirty hours. He's probably bearing the body of processing time. Just get all boy and also the cove in one thousand nine formula vaccine cure to satisfy physiological and psychological need at large what high why why the psychological war weren't so you know what. I mean like vagueness based on his youtube videos Keith. Middlebrook doesn't believe the current ivars outbreak is a real threat of course He's anyway committed. Anyway it's like listening to the two of you might have grace of God go i. Yeah he accused the centers for the CDC and the World Health Organization W And the mainstream media of lying about Cova nineteen causing a pandemic. He says all the crap you hear in the media. We're all in this together. That's bullshit total bullshit ever GONNA be Carson here only from quoting you. Don't have to participate with the losers the massive mainstream media and CVC who as if there's a pandemic and millions of people are dying in the streets. There's not Paul is that we're talked outside and I looked at my street. Known was dead in it so everyone don't believe what he's a couple of dead in it but he's not based on corona virus. According to court records middlebrook previously arrested for wire for in two thousand fourteen after allegedly running a fraudulent credit score improvement business. It was dismissed in two thousand sixteen judge set his arraignment for April sixteenth. So as we're doing this not yet but we will follow up if convicted as charged. You could face up to twenty years in prison when I think Newsweek heavy time and Justice Dot Gov oh God that's serious actually talking to my uncle who is a public defender about the court system and what's happening and actually that might be delayed because the courts are so backed up right now. Don't Zoom Do. Yeah Yeah we could be Jersey Act like Digital Bible swearing on cats are running in the thing on a sears sears. You know everyone's well. Yeah definitely Hanging in there reach out to us. We love people reach out and it's been very kind and really inspiring really nice If you needed care package let us know. We'll get out there. Although I'm not sending things out this week right give it out a little bit but we never we have good memories and we will get it to us to just you know. Hopefully you're feeling okay. 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Credit Tips

Edmund Garey Credit Repair Show

20:42 min | 1 year ago

Credit Tips

"Ladies and gentlemen. Mrs Edmonton Gary Doctor On credit repair this back for six broadcasts. In A. Going to be discussing a few items. How do you dispute public records? Find unsecured credit cards with bad, credit. How. Get your. Before to your credit report. How handle charge off and disputes? This is coming to you all today the egg, Mary. Following Me Edman Gary Credit Repair Program. Come to you here on iheartradio. You can also catch this on Youtube please subscribe. You could also see us on facebook. This is the Edmund Gary. Follow, me credit repair show. Coming to you live from here. Catch US every Saturday, Blah talk radio. Dot Com slash righteous hustle. Or you can post on demand at www dot. Pause Peo- de. Se R., V. E. Dot. Don We'll be right back. Hello Ladies and Gentlemen Edmund Gary Dr Predator repair with back once again. The first thing I want to talk about today is how. Public Records Lights Tax Liens. Bankruptcies. Company here called. LEXIS nexis they collect. All public formations will experience. Trans, union epithets. which needs to do you need to write Lexis Nexis? To freeze all your records before dispute. LEXIS NEXIS is located at Atlanta you can write them. Po Box, one, zero, five, one, zero, eight. Atlanta Georgia three Oh three four eight next Alexis Elliott is Finney is. Po Box five one zero eight Atlanta Georgia. This is where you can do all public records in tax liens. All kinds of public records on your credit report. is where you would go to these these items. Like last month I decided to freeze my record. LEXIS nexis in contact credit bureaus. Equifax? One hundred three removed the bankruptcy off my credit report because he said they could not verify it and I know that experience. Claims that the verified, but they didn't. So when I'm GonNa do is I'm going to send him a letter a fifteen day letter because you know by law. Me Verifying public records. They have fifteen days to prove it not thirty days. How they verify the information, so remember that anytime you you disputes on back and you don't agree with the F. Fifteen days to prove it to you how they verified it and the only way you can get that done. Right is by sending it by certified mail showing that the actual signature. When they received certified letter. They have to sign it. When he comes back to you, you know when they received it again when beauty public records. On your credit reporting. The, first thing you WanNa do is get in touch with Lexis nexis. At Po box one, five, one, zero, eight, Atlanta Georgia three, zero, three forty. In Frisia public records before you dispute. You may have a fifty chance getting their bankruptcy or tax off and by law tax needs shouldn't even be on your credit report anymore. Again my name is Edmond Gary. From the doctor credit repair. Coming to you here? Every Saturday morning at ten am at blog. Talk Radio Slash Righteous R. H.. T. O. US Hustle H. E. S. T. L., E., N.! T. brought to you by iheartradio radio. Producer is Gregory King. Who's done a great job? Giving me started with podcasts. Again you'll talk about how dispute public records the second thing I want to talk about the day is. How to get unsecured credit. Card with no deposit. In the best way to do that four or five banks that do this first Premier Bank! Capital One, Bank. Credit one bank I access visa. These all often you unsecured credit with no deposit, but your credit score is going to be at least five sixty. Nine you don't WanNa put up any security deposit. There's a company called self credit. Go to Google. Type in south credit. You have your open a bank account with them. Because the twenty twenty five dollars open on account. Put in fifty dollars a month. After twelve months you get that money back with interest. In that report to the Credit Bureau each month showing your payment history without putting up any secured money like three hundred dollars that you have to put up and us a credit card. The next thing I want to talk about this. If you WANNA. Add a rental history onto your credit. Report is a company called Rent, reporters. But you can go back and add up to years of your credit. On your. CREDIT, report! And all you have to do is go to Google type in rent. Reporters are E. P., O., R., T. E. R. S.. Forty five dollars fee. Can Up to two years of your back payments out to your credit report, which will make your score of thirty to fifty points. So these are some of the tips that we're talking about day. How do these public records? Unsecured credit cards with no deposits. How do you get your? Mental history add onto your credit reform sole enforcement. It's just like having a mortgage reported. Also, we went to talk about today. How do you dispute charge off in collections? In dispute, charge off in collections remember. A charge off. Is something I'm build that you didn't pay on, and if you haven't paid on it within the first two years, do not bother to pay on it. I would dispute it. And when you go to dispute, it just questioned. The don't tell. is not mind, questioned the accuracy of the amount on the bill. It may fall off. It may not a remember on charge often collections after one year. They have less impacting your credit. He never pay a charge off. You never collection unless you can get it in writing, so let's say for example. A charge card from sears, you five dollars. And he goes to the collection company. Well collecting only make ten to fifteen cents on the dollar. That's how they make their money and they're getting accounts. That sears sears couldn't collect on. So what you do is you go to tell you what I pay two hundred dollars. I pay twenty dollars. If you give me a writing a letter showing you delete this from my credit. Now. They're not willing to do that. Don't do it the split stating your credit report because remember after a year. It doesn't carry the same impact, but if they do agree. You, delete it off your credit record. Make a record so much better, so it's called pay for deletion. You agree to give them a certain teller money. They give you a letter writing. To delete this off your credit file. He became to that agreement. Don't bother. That the seven year rule while land in the fall off and after year or two, he doesn't carry impact. Also dealing with enquiries. Inquiry staying your credit record for twenty four months. But after twelve months they don't carry the same impact anymore. They don't impact your credit any. And also remember you never WanNa. Get No more than six inquiries in one year. Never! Get more than six inquiries. Because that way we plan credit looking desperate in crew units only kill your credit score. So once again. These tips that we're talking about today. On the Edmund. Gerry. Follow me credit repair show. Coming to you here, live in Atlanta Georgia. And we're talking about how to become records. How you get unsecured credit card with no deposits. How to get your rent as onto your credit. And this Edmund Gary on iheartradio. Will be right. Back. Hello Ladies and gentlemen. Edmund Gerry doctor of credit repair coming to you here from Atlanta Georgia. You can catch our show every Saturday morning by heart radio brought to you by my producer Greg retain. This to the log below g talk radio DOT COM slash. Writers are idiots tears arm. He'll U. S.. H. U. S. T. L.. E. N. T.. Also pull up on demand at www dot pod pld serve as V that FM. All my shows on demand, or you can go to talk radio. Righteous Hustle can pull the ball much shows also you can see me on Youtube. Just go to Youtube and Tartan Carbon. Indian Gerry a secret. All of the tips that I'm giving on beer. Once again like I, said. Follow me at mean Gary. Here on iheartradio coming to you every Saturday morning at ten am. We're GONNA be talking about topics like today when disputing records to get removed how uninsured credit card with no deposit how to get your rental history? Added on to your credit, diggle thirty to fifty points. Also there's another one we never talked about before. Let's say you want to get more credit offers, or you have to do is go to Google type in obt PT. OPT in. will pop up you type in your information, and then you will start getting credit offers now if you don't want getting credit offer, credit offers the same thing. Go to Google typed in. Opt Out. Once come up. That will stop. That would tell the credit bureaus not released any information on you so that way, you won't be credit offers. Remember. Always have to have at least two to three credit cards visa MasterCard stay with from store cards. They don't do good. To three cards, one half credit showing the always. WanNa have a good mixture of credit like in stone. That's like a car loan where you got the same monthly payment every month. Pay The same amount. A revolving would be visa mastercard for your payments different each month depending on your balance. The third. That would like to see your credit. Report would be adding rental history on there, and you don't have a mortgage on your credit report. You can add your past two year window history onto your credit report by one company called rent reporters go to Google. Type in rent reporters they will add the past two years of your credit history i. mean of your own history onto your credit report, and it's only for forty five dollars initial car, your credit reporting thirty to fifty points. Also, something I want to go over again like I did before. You have to understand how your credit score. Remember. Making minimum payments each month on time. Thirty five percent of your credit score is based on your payment history. Next one through thirty percent. Is Utilization is how you handle your credit. Even though you even though you may be making your payments on time, you need to keep your balanced below thirty percent of the limit to your credit score allstate. So for example, if you have a two thousand dollar credit line, you don't want to see the by more than six hundred dollars, because even though you may be paid on time looks like you're maxed out your credit and it's GonNa Kill Your Credit Score, so you WANNA keep your balance is low, and you want to get to seven hundred eight hundred scores. You got to keep all your balances in all your credit cards from one seven percent, no more than seven percent. This really mccusker score arise. So that's my typical day when it comes to handling your credit sixty five percent, your credit score is based on how you handle your credit payment. How you handle your credit, you pay history. And over one more time. You WanNa Dispute Public Records Tax Liens or bankruptcy on your credit report. There's a company called. Lexus Nexus. They collect all public information for Arafat's Trans Union all the credit rules. If you WANNA threes directed. All you have to do is write lexus. LX Is in E. X. is. Po Box one, zero, five, one zero eight. Atlanta Georgia three zero three forty write-down access leisure records. Then when you get your credit report, tax liens still on your bankruptcy. Now, you want to dispute it and when you dispute, don't see this account is not my question. The bankruptcy questioned the amount question a year. But just questioning. Do not say is not mine. Next thing we want to talk about one more time out new unsecured credit card with no deposit. The, banks I premiere. Capital one credit one bank. I Access Bang Continental Finance. Credit score of five sixty, five eighty in up. You can get on credit line with them without not positive. Credit Line might be three hundred be five hundred thousand. But you will be able to get a creditor well-known deposit. Now, we don't want to put up deposit period as come out here, cough self credit. Go to Google type in self, Elf credit, or go to www self s e l f. Dot Inc.. For for twenty five dollars, you open up a bank account with them. I would say putting fifty to seventy five dollars. At twelve months, you get that money back with interest because it's a certificate of deposit. And each month they report creditials how you're paying so again. This is called self credit. The other thing that we talked about again. I WanNa make sure that I get this into my followers heads if you have rental history for the past two years. And you WANNA. Have you been paying good on your? You wouldn't have to your credit report, which will make thirty to sixty points, and also helping you into buying that first home as a company called reporters to Google typed reports. They will add up to two years of your past credit of you. Pass rental history to your credit. report was definitely. Call your credit thirty fifty points. If you if you WANNA, get new credit offers. Let's go to Google type in UPENN. If you don't want to receive any more credit offers go to Google and type thing hopped out. A remember when charge off in collections. Do not go pay them off because it's not gonNA. Do Anything for your credit. And also at the twelve months. They don't care the impact. He do any more. So remember. You Got Charge up collection on your credit report in the Collection Company, has it? Contact Hey. I'll tell you what I'll pay you forty to fifty percent on dollar. Deal is 'cause. Remember collecting only get paid when they collect. They can't collect. Loss for them, so this is a win win because remember collection company only fifteen cents on a dollar at the most. If you offer them forty cents on the dollar. Bill is four hundred dollars. That's one hundred sixty dollars a with them. A Win for you, but make sure you get in writing saying hey, we will delete from Europe. We will delete this from your credit report once we receive the funds and make sure you got. Let Letter in writing before you pay it. That's the same way dealing with a charge off or Delaware collection again. My Name is Emily Gary I'm the adoptive credit repair. Come to you here every Saturday. From IHEART radio. Producer is directory King. You can pull up our show at blog. Talk Radio, DOT, com slash, righteous R. I G. H. T. as in time he'll US Hustle H. U. S. t. l.. E. N. T.. Or Club all my shows on demand at www dot padre pio di served as the VP dot afternoon. Again. This is Gary. The top your credit repair community gave talking about how to handle public records how to get unsecured credit card no deposit. How how to build up credit with no security value by going through southbank. How the history add onto your federal. charge hundreds of collections. Guinness Edmundsbury Gary. On iheartradio follow me. We'll be right back. All. Hello Ladies and gentlemen. Edmundsbury the doctor Predator back hugh again. This show is being brought to you by our heart radio my producers. Gregory King didn't catch our show. Every Saturday morning at ten am at blog Bela t talk, radio, dot com slash righteous. Tom Ill us a tube S.. T. l., E. N. T.. You can offer pull my show of on demand. There www dot. Pot Peel, de served as he, our Visa Victor e Dot FM. This is the immediately following me Kroeker show. You can also follow me on Youtube. This I've been at many Gary. G. A., R., E., Y. and I will come up on Youtube. Before, we ended up show. We'll talk about one last topic that I want to go over again. In the last one one over in house understand how your credit score. We've gone over at the how talk about how the public records how to get an unsecured credit card no deposit how how to build your credit with no security deposit. HOW EDGE RENTAL HISTORY ON! How to get new credit offers without applying for credit. How do you dispute charge off in collections? Is Understanding how your credit score. Remember thirty. Five percent of your credit is based on your payment history. Based on how you making payments thirty percent and based on how you handle your credit given thousand dollar limit. You don't WanNa see by more than three hundred dollars. If you WANNA get the seven hundred hundred scores do not exceed your balanced by more than seven percent. Fifteen percent, your score is based on age. Tim is based on the mixture installment loan. Carlo evolving credit. Visa MasterCard repayment difference every month at a mortgage or credit on yes, or your rental history that is a good mixture in the last ten percent based on new credit. That's one hundred percent of your credit score. But the main part is a thirty five thirty rule. You bills on time. Keeping Balances Low A. You will join all of us in the seven hundred club. Let's game. This has been Edmund Jerry coming in. I heart radio. Also catch me on Youtube. We're here every Saturday morning at ten am. Go to blog. Bill O. G., talk, radio, dot, com slash righteous. I GATT in Tom Theo US Hustle H.. U. S. T. L. HE HE NT. Or for me up on demand at www dot card pld serves as he has E. DOT FM in go to Google type and Edmund de Amion de last name Gary G. A. R. E. Y.. Putting podcast Edman Gary Podcast, and you'll see all my shows. Come up on demand. Again. Walk when go to YouTube. Please subscribe. And if you have any questions, call increment questions. Call Me Edmund Gary, S, four, zero four. Four three, seven, two, zero, two eight. Or email me A. He. G. A. R. E. Y. AT GMAIL, dot com, not gene mail mail dot com once again. Thank you. Listen to the Edmund Gary. 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False Merit, Appearing Real

Akimbo: A Podcast from Seth Godin

26:40 min | 2 years ago

False Merit, Appearing Real

"In one thousand nine hundred forty to the United States at war had a problem. There wasn't enough metal and we needed more planes. Howard Hughes came up with the solution. He built the biggest airplane in the history of the world. And he built it out of birchwood. Hey, it's F. And this is a kimbro. Then we'll be back in a second. After this word from our sponsor. This episode of Kim Bo is brought to you by link ten and Lincoln. We know that being a marketer today as challenging for a lot of reasons like having to reach customers, and the rare moment when they're thinking about business, and when they're ready to engage that's tough, but linked can help make it easier for you to reach the right people when it matters. That's because as people come to linked him to do business. We share your marketing campaign with just the people who are interested in doing business with you. That sounds pretty helpful. Join us later on for three different ways Lincoln can help you or go to Lincoln dot com slash akimbo. To learn more. Yes. The spruce goose the biggest airplane in the history of the world was made out of Birch. And it only flew once. And the reason is pretty simple unless you have no choice in the matter. It's a bad idea to make an airplane out of wood metal has better merit medal. Is better engineers understand the idea of merit when it comes to natural materials and other technological contributors to what they are building. It gets really interesting and really problematic when we start dealing with people instead of raw materials how for example to decide who should go to Harvard or who should play basketball at Stanford who are Illinois how to decide what merit is. And as people seeking the comfort that comes with being picked the comfort from being awarded merit from an outsider the leverage that we get from walking in the front door. How do we get more of that? What are the rules are their quotas to quotas matter? What are we measuring? I don't talk about organiz sports a lot out akimbo mostly because I'm totally not into it. But they are fascinating way to understand the contributors to winning and losing take for example, the average NBA salary for players based on where they went to college. If you went to Illinois to reported, you're making about eleven million dollars a year, whereas players who went to Stanford only make six million dollars a year. So if you're a player in highschool seeking to maximize your future income it's not surprising that you will choose to go to a school to put you on the fast track to higher income. Same thing is true for the height and weight of players in the NBA it has steadily gone up. So if you seek to make a living in the NBA, it's probably pretty smart to eat your Wheaties from young age that makes. But then what do we do with vilason from Billy bean as chronicled by Michael Lewis in his book moneyball, what Billy bean did was he understood that what people thought where the key contributors to success or actually incorrect that by drafting players who had different attributes different sorts of merit. He put together a baseball team that was two standard deviations better than it should have been based on his payroll. In other words, by seeing what was really true as opposed to merely associating past performance with guesses about what was true Billy bean was able to beat the system fourteen years ago Drome caribou motor book called the chosen. And what it's about is who gets into her. Rivard who gets into Yale who gets into Princeton. It's an important topic. And the reason it's an important topic is just as we saw with NBA players where you go to college has a lot to do with where you go in life. Now, there's one conversation to be had which is why is that is that fair is that useful? Is it like building an airplane out of Birch? Or is there something that's happening at those three institutions, whether it's by their selection, or by what happens to you. When you are there that makes you more likely to contribute in a way that others can't or is it simply that people are hiring and trusting people who are like them. And so the system perpetuates itself, but putting that discussion aside for a minute thinking about who gets in who gets the keys. To the front door is a fascinating way to begin thinking about merit. In the nineteen hundreds in order to get in you needed to have gone to school like Exeter, you needed to be people like us people of a certain race and religion and social standing in geographical basis. So that the system could be perpetuated these schools did not pretend that they were looking for or training brainiacs. What they said was we are a finishing school for people like us while in the nineteen ten and nineteen twenties waves of new immigrants, particularly Jews didn't get the message and they applied. Well, the way that these schools had put themselves out to the world was that they were going to admit people based on their intellectual prowess. And it turned out that the new wave of applicants were better at intellectual. Prowess than the people who had traditionally gone and year-by-year the percentage of people who weren't like, Franklin Delano Roosevelt went up. But at the same time that the intellectual horsepower was going up the other things inside the institution. Call them soft skills, if you will stay the same from nineteen hundred to nineteen thirty one thousand two hundred Jews entered Yale and not one of them. According to David Brooks reporting on the book was elected to a senior society. These senior societies things like skull and bones, which George Bush belonged to were really at the heart of what these Ivy league schools were contributing zero out of twelve hundred that's because culturally, the institutions weren't really changing. But as the percentage. Of non traditional non waspy. Applicants continue to go up. The institutions faced a crisis. Harvard provost Paul buck said that they were going to try to have fewer of the sensitive neurotic, boys. People who were intellectually over stimulated in the nineteen fifties. Yells president a man named Alfred griswald said we're going to try to avoid beetle Browde highly specialized intellectual people, and instead seek out the well rounded man, this statistic will let you really understand how the institutions fought back in nineteen fifty two hundred and seventy eight people from prep school apply to Harvard two hundred and forty five of those men were admitted more than ninety percent. The thing is that it couldn't. Last institutions realized that the world and America was bigger than a little tiny corner of New England prep schools. So they began to rely on the SAT the SAT a score that lives unjust. If you axes of all, the many skills, somebody can have the SAT and some institutions simply picked people who ranked the highest on the SAT, but the most elite institutions didn't do that. How else were they going to find quote, the well rounded, man one place? They went was sports by some estimates. Fifty percent of the people admitted to Harvard have a note appended to their file by a coach that this person is going to contribute to our water polo team are fencing team notice that most of the sports on the. List are sports you can play at Exeter. Again, what we're seeing is a search by elite institutions to redefine what merit is so in the NBA merit might be height and weight, but Billy bean showed us that in baseball merit could be on base percentage. And at these elite institutions that have the key to the front door. The definition of merit keeps changing what we know. Is that it's extremely likely that your father also went to college. It's extremely likely that you grew up in a literate home. It's extremely likely that you have a whole bundle of soft skills that aren't tested by the SAT. For those of you who are paying attention to current events. It's pretty clear that as soon as an institution that can award merit chooses and access of performance that can be gamed people will begin to cheat. And that's where this all leads. Now. Let's compare that to some other badges of merit where the gatekeeper isn't quite as obvious considered the top twenty five TED talks of all time. One of them is done by a Brit who walks with a cane ten of them are from women. There are popular TED talks from people of color from people who are twelve years old from people who are professors is there a gatekeeper. Of course, there is there's still the bias of people like us get invited to do something like this. They're still the on. Almost impossible to overcome impact of did you have breakfast every day when you were five years old what language was spoken in the place where you grew up. Did you grow up in a place or were you shuttled around? Were you raised by people who believed in you is there a voice in your head. That's telling you, you have no business even begin thinking about giving a tedtalk when people on the outside look at you. Are they judging you by your appearance by your disability? By the way, you present all of these things happen long before you get a chance to give a Ted talk where is merit merit might begin in our head. How did it get in our head who brainwash us into believing? We could achieve who brainwashed us into believing that we couldn't. So then back to this idea of bias. The guardian reports that. Blind. Auditions for orchestras where the people applying for a job at the orchestra apply by playing behind a screen. So that the judges can't see who's performing increase the percentage of women that get the job by fifty percent. A wait. They don't a recent paper by John Palacin shows that even elementary statistical analyses demonstrate that the paper that's being quoted is wrong. Six different ways that in fact blind additions don't increase the percentage of women who get picked or consider the work of Kingman Brewster at Yale as written about in a book their guardians in the nineteen sixties Brewster shifted. What Yale fought they were looking for? When people applied he shifted. The very definition of what merit was the tour to France. Another sports reference is apparently a race where your judgment of someone's background. Doesn't matter. All that matters is the time it's little like your SAT score except just like the SAT score. There are problems. The SAT score doesn't really measure your aptitude for anything. There's a t score has very little relationship with how well you're going to do in college. The SAT score is a measure of where did you grow up? How did you grow up and how much did your parents spend on preparing you for the SAT? And as we've seen with the doping in the tour de France at this point among elite competitors winning the toward France is more about how close can you get to skirting the rules without getting caught. Then it is about your particular genetic makeup or grit as that brings us to the current news. Current news about helicopter parenting about cheating about pushing kids to get into a famous college to a communist deputy body report that helicopter parenting is most rampant in countries with the biggest income inequality. Now, you could come to the conclusion that helicopter parenting causes income inequality. But I think it's probably more likely that the opposite is true that income inequality. The sense that every decision is fraught that. People aren't truly going to be judged on the merits that. There will be winners and many losers pushes parents who think they are doing the best. They can for their kids to overdo it to push too hard to be present all the time because in their mind the stakes are so high. It makes sense for them to act that way, they are amplified by the current economic setting miss judging what merit really is they're over indexing for the keys to the front door. And for how ever those institutions are currently judging and they are doing the equivalent of doping their kids so doping your kids might get them. A better time on a particular time trial, but it doesn't open the door for them to earn true. Merit the merit of actually making a contra. Bution a contribution that they and their parents can be proud of. There's a long history of us misjudging, what merit is mostly trying to measure things that will help us people like us kids of people like us. Get ahead that these institutions have a long history of making choices that make it likely that they will award points to people alike. The people who are currently running the institutions, but as we open more doors as there isn't one front door, but multiple front doors because our culture is being so radically shifted from so many directions. It turns out that one access how taller you how fast were you on this time trial. How well did you do on the SAT is less and less important? What's so much? More important is a. The story we tell ourselves the story we tell ourselves about possibility about our ability to contribute. The story. We tell ourselves about grit and resilience and speaking up when we need to speak up and number two is the idea that we are in many many circles, there isn't one line that we have to get to the front of there are many lines where can we contribute? How can we pick ourselves to earn merit to the way we help others as opposed to stealing merit because in any given moment. We've earned more points on a system that can be gamed because we have the resources to game it and others. Don't it all comes back to this? I d of picking yourself that if you are going to seek merit from a system that. Words merit based on corruption you will inherently become corrupted that instead you can earn merit by picking yourself by giving yourself the challenge of showing up turning on a light solving interesting problems and leading the others. Thanks for listening. We'll be back in the second with answers to questions from west time. But first, here's a message from our sponsor. Hey, welcome back. Next time. You're thinking about running a marketing campaign consider how Lincoln might help you to give you some ideas share three different ways, you can reach the right people on Lincoln. So they can start engaging with your business today. Way to start is by sending message at s- these make it easy to target the right people for everything from product promotions to personalized invites for events. Another way is by using carousel image at that lets Lincoln members easily swipe through a series of cards that showcase your products one by one or you can make a deeper emotional connection with your audience by using video ads in the Lincoln feet, these videos get three times the engagement compared to post with only text. Now, you're ready to reach the right? People on Lincoln who are ready for your business. Go to Lincoln dot com slash akimbo to get started. To learn more. Said it's mighty Kyle reading this is Stephen out, Madison, Wisconsin. Hi, set Alicia from Charleston here. Hi. Gaylon warm. Greetings from curious besa much, Nick Ryan from Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Pay sent this is Rex. Hi. Hi, this is Roberta Perry. My question is. And that completes my question. I'm recording. This one remote didn't wanna miss a week. We got a great question. I'll get to that in a second. But first we really do need to hear from you. We love your questions. Visit a Kimball dot link. That's aka I m b o dot L I N K. You'll see the show nuts there. And then there's a big button that you can hit to ask your question. X? Seth Matt film in here just outside Detroit. Michigan in the five monkeys episode. You brought up a topic. I've been thinking about a lot recently that's goliaths being trampled by David. When I seem to be playing by different rules. I'm all in with you in the idea that it wasn't in blockbusters DNA to become a subscription company that maybe they become too focused on late fees. And I'm wondering if there's a larger Mimetic context at work as well, given that blockbuster was a publicly traded company expected to provide profits to their shareholders as far as I know net. Flicks has never produced a profit, especially when they're venture funded. They had the freedom to lose money as they gained market share. I might use Amazon versus borders as a similar example in the early days. Of course. So my question is this are there cultural rules that also influence whether companies lose focus on who they serve versus keeping that top of mind. And if so how do big specifically public companies manage shareholder and market expectations against a willingness. To shift and serve who they serve in a new way. And as a PS, I introduced my girlfriend you last night as we read the is for vulnerable to each other and had a lot of fun doing it. Thank you for shipping. Your art. Thanks to the question. Here's the thing. Working for public companies choice becoming a public company is choice. And it often carries baggage with it so male chip is not a public company and working at Melton feels very different than working. It's a General Motors because the owner is in the room with you when you are working at Milton different choices get made. And you are correct. That one of the things that happened to a company like blockbuster is that the easy thing to do. With Wall Street is to please what Wall Street wants in the short run. But that's not the only available path. It's worth mentioning that Netflix actually does make a profit. But the interesting compare. Right now is between Amazon and apple two of the most valuable companies in the world. One of them has created billions and billions and billions of dollars quarterly profits. That's what apple Dutt's on regular basis. They extract every penny that they can from the market and Wall Street lights that but the other one Amazon has anything close to Apple's profits chosen not to take the profits and Wall Street likes them as well. So the choice that the CEO makes the very well paid CEO who doesn't have to answer the phone or sort the paper clips or gig holes in the ground for living, the hard choices are things. Like, what will we tell Wall Street? What is the promise? What are they buying? When they invest in us and Amazon has been great from the first day at making it clear to investors. What was on offer? So the interesting challenge the companies have when the world changes. Did they make a bargain with an organization of marketplace? The stock exchange that's going to ultimately lead to their demise. Reserve we see this happened, for example for certain retailers like Sears, Sears certainly saw. What was coming Sears had many many chances to do things? Right. But the combination of their internal medic DNA with the support that they got from the stock market for acting in ways that didn't make a lot of sense doomed them. So is anyone listening to this podcast gonna be able to fix that in one minute. Of course, not. But I think seeing understanding there is no right answer. You choose to build a culture, you want to have and brings you the future that culture determines that's on us. Thanks again for listening. We'll see next. I just don't think it's possible or probable an intern as world to distinguish yourself as an educational institution or as success seeker at the level of information gathering or information distribution, this is the information age, and you can get a great book, a great essay a great idea anywhere. You know, none of us can do that better than the internet. Right. There is no great thought leader who can out think the internet like we have data. What MBA gets right? Is. It puts you in a context where you're part of a community that says, yeah, that's good. You got access to ideas. You got access to information. That's awesome. But when you're gonna show up when you're gonna face that blank page when you're gonna face the possibilities within you when you're gonna face those fears. I'm not gonna let you gotta show up, and that's the hardest part. And it sounds simple. It sounds very commonsensical. But it. It's the number one reason why we don't write that book. It's the number one reason why we don't ask that question. It's not because we don't know where we don't have the information. We don't have an environment. And we don't have a support network that makes it feel like showing up as possible for me. Not just possible for the success stories. I see out there, but I can show. Consider the alt- MBA more than three thousand alumni in seventy four countries around the world. Find out more at all MBA dot com.

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Scaredy Sharks & The Science of Fear

Wow In the World

28:49 min | 2 years ago

Scaredy Sharks & The Science of Fear

"Before we start the show just a couple of quick things number one. If you haven't heard, yet, the wow, in the world pop up party is coming to three more cities this summer, we'll be in Boston. Massachusetts on June second Chicago, Illinois, underlie sixth and Denver, Colorado on July fourteenth. Denver has just officially sold out and Boston is not far behind so snag, your ticket soon and save yourself a seat. Also, we're already planning more shows for the rest of twenty nineteen and twenty twenty in fact, we'll be back in Washington DC on February twenty ninth of twenty twenty and members of the world organization of Wilders. Get first dibs on tickets starting tomorrow may twenty eight tickets go on sale to the general public starting Friday may thirty for more on how to get tickets to any of our live events. Just visit tinker cast dot com slash events. That's tinker cast dot com slash. Lash events. That's it hope to see you out in the world. Very soon. One takes home of the. Daytime talk show where we export the issue's important issues like what's up with peon pools, where bird go in the nighttime? And of course, our flinty award winning food, shoot oppression. What is it? Why to attend a taping of the Bruni Soto show? Visit the box office. To one takes duty. Come on right through this door. We had to keep this blindfold on for it's not applied fold. Many silk, I mask can you just tell me going, well, I'm sorry for all the secrecy, but were almost here, almost wear, white stand, right there. Okay. Ready? Three two one. I'm tara. What do the Bruni soda? Two tickets to the season. Premiere of the Bruni. Happy birthday Mindy. How could I forget Roz? This is the best unbirthday imprison I've ever gotten also the olien birthday present I've ever gotten. Thanks, buddy committee, and on top of it being your favorite TV show. I also heard that this season premieres based on one of my favorite areas of psychology psychology the science of our minds. Why we do the weird things we do behaviors right into what is the first episode all about our fears our fears? Yeah. That's right. Like having a fear of heights, or fear of the dark both of which are sometimes referred to as phobias. Oh, yeah. Phobias are like those extreme fears. Right. Like the kinds that are sometimes passed down from our ancestors. Exactly like, you know, there's not much reason to be afraid of the dark today, but ten thousand years. Ago. Our ancestors would have had a lot of reasons to be afraid of the dark for starters. There might be predators in the dark into Juneau that the word phobia comes from the Greek word Volvos, which translates into English as beer, interesting. So someone with a fear of heights might have at grow phobia, and someone with Inada DiPoto via might have might have a fear of action. I don't think I've heard of that one before fear of being watched by a duck IRAs of fear of being watched by a duck said, even a real phobia, you know, it is maybe they'll have that one on the show today. Timing, Rooney, so no show begins and five minutes already fister tickets, please make your way to security. Come on. That's us. What, what? Place. Awful logging on the conveyor belt for the greening. All right. You're clear. Bit moving you there with the Paget's step forward, please. Okay. With the toolbox. Whatever everything on the conveyor belt plates. Mr. security, man. Very. How heavy is your adventure tool kit? I had no idea where you were taking me for this applies today to ahead of prepare myself for every possible situation. Bill. Detector's going off. Is prohibited on the premises. Bruni is lactose intolerant. Looks to be a lot of milk nearly four galleys. Doing with four gallons of milk in your bag. Buddies milk? Oh, set off the scanner. Jerry scanner says the milk is in that case, the one that says, Mendis adventure to Kitin has the sticker on it, that says warning contains milk. That's the one open it up and get rid of the mill. Are those jumping out of your tool kit? Talk about this. Four. Danner says you're clear now you can go through. Come on. Let's go. Find our seats. What, what, what? We're live in two minutes. Two minutes hair. Welcome to the Bruni Suto show. Oh, yeah. Hi. We're just trying to find our seats. Hope sure. Let me just take a look at your tickets. Road to are seated right down here and here all your ponchos on show. Joe's. Why do we need ponchos? Burs three rows require ponchos. Answer my question. Yeah. But it does kind of rhyme. Sorry, sir. We're in a bit of a rush just please. Take your seats. Okay. But put your we're going to miss the beginning of the show. Lug. Three two. What? The. Today. We are exploring feeds and the feelings that keep us a wake at nights. You need an anglerfish fish was a brain of dark of bleed was afraid of height. Shirt with absolutely terrified of orca. Shark who's afraid of orcas he. No. Right. What if sharks have to be afraid of the lions, the wait the I think of heard about this before. Really? Yeah. There was a study done at the Monterey Bay Aquarium been there, the one in northern California. What did they find the scientists found that the great white sharks, that swim off the coast of California would get out of town, as fast as they could anytime orcas showed up orca aka killer whales? That's right. And the part that really got the researchers curious was that these great white sharks would avoid these areas where the orcas swam for almost a year after they I saw the orcas shark scared of. Yeah, it seems like there's a pretty good reason. They're on this episode all about fears. I'll Fe ladies and gentlemen. It's time to bring out our first guest, please welcome to the stage. Our first fearful friend, from the deaths of the Atlantic Ocean helps the. We have our expert animal translator Terry with us today. Terry. But I wanna talk to you, angry fish. Tell me Hilton of fear of the dark must be pretty tough for fish that lives five thousand feet under the seat. That's right. When you get that deep. You can't see anything light rarely reaches any deeper than seven hundred feet past the surface. So how exactly do you keep yourself from being overcome with fear down there? Well, I have is neat little flashlight with me at all times. It's actually a debt to my head. I sometimes use it to catch Linter. I'm sorry. Did you save Linter sorry Bernie that translation dinner? I sometimes use it to catch dinner. Well Hilton that sounds like something, our audience would love to see audience. Would you like to see Hilton little? Like. Dr. Will the anger fish I can see your light and you are shot? You know what you're right? If it wasn't for the dock nece you wouldn't be able to see this little light of mine, and I also wouldn't be able to catch litter. I need dinner. Thanks brody. Thanks for helping me face my fears. Thank you for your brain. After the break of wink, that ju- kit, then and later, a sharp whose crippling fear of or pushed him out of his hunting grounds for almost a year. This show Rama rolling blackouts to really fascinating live, TV Mindy. I can't wait to hear what that shark test to say about his fear of orcas. Yeah, we're just saying that there was a scientific study about that. That's right. The study was conducted in the feral onus, national marine sanctuary off the coast of San Francisco in California, even measure, how scared a great white shark. Well, you get them to fill out a questionnaire. No way. Of course, not meant the I was just joking. You were joking what the researchers did was to observe watch very closely how the great white sharks, and the orcas, interacted when both of them were hunting for food in this national marine sanctuary. And the researchers were able to observe these interactions in two different ways. So the first way was, when great white sharks would actually bump into an orca out in the wild. Like when I bump into Dennis in the grocery store. Exactly. And what was the other way? Well the other way was using a bit of math math. So the researchers looked at the data or the information from one hundred sixty five great white sharks, that were tacked hacked likes stuck in the mud will not exactly the researchers put these little devices called a coup. Stick tags on the sharks to learn more about them and their behavior how like what they eat, and their migration patterns or where they swim. Exactly. So what did they learn from these one hundred sixty five tagged sharks? Will they compared the migratory patterns of these sharks? Migratory patterns as in where. They had been. That's right. And they compare where the sharks had been with orca sightings. And then why when the researchers compared how the sharks migrated to where they saw the orcas? They found that every timing this show, the sharks would just high tail it out and go further up the coast to do their hunting somewhere else with their tail between their legs. They bet or fins fins between their legs any, they were scared. Well, that's basically it Mindy. Three to what? Today would delve into the deep blue sea of fear and insecurity? Our next guest is a fleet with the local circus whose entire act depends on soaring to great heights. And yet this little parasite can't stand me more than thirty. Centimeters off the ground. Welcome to the stage. Chris. You know what me neither camera? Three. Can we push a little closer? That's it closer. There. She is. Patricia, you have a fear of heights, that must be difficult for species of insects, that can jump the way you can. I'm sorry, Terry. The translator is Patricia speaking, I think, so. Roti. It's a strange dialect, but I believe I can translate. Okay. I think I've got it. Patricia says that's right. If I try my hardest, I can leap nearly thirty centimeters into the air. If I were the same height as a human, that would be the equivalent of jumping over the Empire State building. Wrestling. It would be not for fear of heights. See whenever a jump over Tang. Twelve centimeters freak out. It's cost me everything. Just last month. I lost my job at the circus. Awful and all because of a phobia, you never ask for I'd do anything to get ride of it. Excuse me. Sorry, I do anything to get rid of it will Patricia do we have a prize for you? We contacted your own circus, and explain your phobia folk hawks, and they have agreed to take you back on, not as a high flying trapeze, est bucks as a contortionist. Threaten Lawrence coming up after the break. Our final a short with the crippling figure of orcas. Don't go anywhere. We'll be right back. We are clear. He thought that sharks were the biggest baddest predators in the ocean. I guess there was a bigger batter predator out there all along well, many both great white sharks, and orcas, are what's known as eight PEX. Predators. Meaning that they are at the top of their food king. That's right. Meaning that they aren't usually eaten by any other animal in that environment. So the orcas are not going into the great white sharks territory to hunt them. They're just looking for the same is exactly elephants seals are actually on the menu and both species wanna take a bite. But when they come face to face. White sharks, turn and run. They would rather hunt in a different area where the orcas don't go, how I guess, everyone really is scared of something, even a big scary, great white shark. Three. What? Just joining us on the Rudy photo show. We're talking today about fears Bobi last today is known as the lion of told. Measuring in northern fifteen feet with more than fifteen rows of razor sharp teeth. What could this terrifying? Apex predator be afraid of. One word. Please welcome our next yet. The green. Look at the size of them. Look at the size of that. Hey, oh, my mom. How why they bring out to tanks? There's only one way to find out Geyer is that but Nep your pond? Joe sit back in Joey this show. Right now. Bruce, tell me a little bit about where you're from. Family is found all over the world from the Mediterranean to the Atlantic to the Pacific my immediate family. We tend to live and hunt just off the coast of northern California. Go are yours. From northern California, but that is not the case anymore. Is it do you wanna tell me what happened? Well, every September through December, and my family migrated, the fairlawn islands off the coast of northern California. To hunt elephants seals for a couple of months. It's an old family tradition. We've been doing it for Sears, Sears. Sorry years. We've been doing it for years, but last year was different. That's right. There were minding our own business when suddenly out of nowhere, this pot of Arcus show. Bad way. Have you ever seen in orca before the terrifying me and my family? We high tailed it out of there to go eat somewhere else. How long ago was this one Sears ago, one year ago? One year, and you still haven't returned to your hunting, ground. That's right. And I don't know if I'll ever go back. That's no way to live, Bruce. It sounds like somebody had the base their views. What do we say? Studio audience. Is it for Bruce bays? It's time for you to face her fears right in front of all these good people. Studio audience are you wearing your? Yes. Rop that Borka into the big empty tank, just finally found out what that tink was four. We also found out what these ponchos were for soaked Ruth. I need you to look that orca in the eye and realize that it is a green apex predator, just like you with a family, just like you, and that there is a noth- boo to go around. Do you think? Looks like we have a break. That's all the time we have votes tomorrow on the Bruni show. Hippo in a deer trade diets for week. Thanks for watching and next time. That's a wrap. What a finish way, she was able to make those two predators make up did happen with that research. Well, it proved that food chains are always as straightforward, as we thought and that sometimes a single environment can have more than one apex, predator and knowing that can help us to monitor into research, marine ecosystems in the future. Correctomundo. We're gonna have to ask him to move out of here. 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Sunday, July 12, 2020

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Sunday, July 12, 2020

"We. Get support from checks and balance a podcast from the Economist about twenty twenty elections and the road to power in America. Each week John prudhoe. The economists US editor explores a big theme shaping the race for the White House and digs into the history of presidential politics to explain what's going on today. Economists correspondents from across the US and around the world. Join him to talk through the ideas and the data to take view without taking sides. I've been reading the economist for a while now and the podcast is a fantastic companion to the kind of reporting. They do in the magazine I especially appreciate the unique global perspective I don't always get elsewhere so for a global view on democracy in America, subscribed to the economist, checks and balances podcast now that's checks and balance for the global view of democracy in America in an extraordinary election year subscribing, listen for free on apple podcasts. Or Your PODCAST APP? Breaking news tonight, staggering numbers out of Florida more than fifteen thousand Cova cases confirmed in just one day thousands more than New York. At its peak hospitals. They're overwhelmed, but disneyworld now open the new warning from the administration we do expect us to go up and fears that are brutal. Heatwaves down south may fuel more indoor transmission plus the new white. House attacks on Dr Anthony Fauci the campaign to discredit him in the eyes of the public, an explosion and massive fire on board, a navy ship and California sailors injured smoke visible for miles, the fire chief morning it could burn for days. The investigation into a murdered soldier did the army's culture contribute to her death demands for answers tonight. Schools Safe are Dr John Torres talks to pediatricians across the country and ask them one question. Would you let your kids go back to school? Their answers might surprise you. Plus on point, the DAD's making that extra leap to don with their daughters. NBC nightly news with Kay Snow. Good evening, the numbers out of Florida tonight are alarming more than fifteen thousand confirmed cases of corona virus in one day. That is the highest number any state has recorded even eclipsing New York at the worst of its crisis in April, the number partially due to increased testing, but still hospitals are filling masks are still not required across the entire state of Florida but the White House Task Force today warned that wearing them in hot hotspots is essential and the most well known member of that Task Force Dr Anthony. FAUCI came under fire today from the White House itself. We have a lot to cover. We begin with Sam Brock in Orlando. For estate already smashing covert records, Florida soared into induce stratosphere, Sunday, fifteen, thousand three hundred cases. That's a lot of new cases. That that number. I. It's the little bit ridiculous physicians sounding the alarm. Time they're not just getting sector. Our loved ones are dying, and you should care about those people that you're interacting wih Florida's fatalities this week. Over five hundred in Miami, Dade hospitals are at ninety four percent ICU capacity with the mayor. Confirming six are now full. Capacity that's causing US concern again like I said we can crank up another five hundred. If the sunshine state were its own country, you would rank fourth highest in the world for new Cova cases behind the United States, Brazil and India despite the explosion of infections, many rules remain unchanged masks are not required statewide, and Florida's beaches and businesses remain open house. You could say they are doing temperature screens as soon as you load off the boat dock. Even disneyworld back this weekend. The Evans family from California says conditions are not what you might expect. Is Very very reduced. I mean you can walk anywhere in the car now, not any. Signs of social distancing an cautious behavior key to keeping this already spiraling crisis from deepening what you're seeing across the state right now on a scale of one to ten. How worried are you on a scale? Can I have to admit I'm am? On the eight to nine scale of worry, there is an infinite supply of physician. Becky. Take care of patients. Sam Joins US now. From Orlando Sam. Part of the increase in cases is due to more testing, right. Testing definitely part of the story Katie, one hundred forty thousand tests performed by Florida that is easily the most so far the rate of those coming back positive one from over twenty percent four days ago to thirteen and a half percent tonight, but still concerned about hospitals in the ours being overwhelmed kate. Sam Brock. Thank you so much. Officials are worried. Also that has cases rise more deaths will follow. This weekend has already seen an uptick and a major warning today be prepared for more fatalities. Erin McLaughlin has more. Tonight more than a thousand American lives reported lost this weekend and grim warning from the White House. Task, force. We do expect desk to go up. If you have more cases more hospitalizations, we do expect to see that over the next two or three weeks before this turns around with at least three point, two million cases and one hundred, thirty, thousand dead the White House. House testings are insist America does not need to shut down again if ninety percent of people in hotspots wear masks if we don't have that, we will not get control of the virus, but with no nationwide mask mandate in some places wearing one still left up to individuals. Make the Lawrence Series Malkin out, and at least ten people going in, and they don't have mascow. In Texas confirmed cases continue to climb nearly six thousand reported today. It is serious. They draw on anyone at anytime. And in Arizona an alarming positivity rate more than one, hundred twenty thousand confirmed cases. We are setting records of the type. You don't want to set for the use of ventilators. Bhai Kovic patients acute care beds back in April. There was hope of a summer break from the virus. Quickly with the son now a distant memory as a heatwave hits some of the country's hotspots with temperatures forecasted to be as high as one hundred fifteen degrees I think the summer temperatures have actually made things worse in a lot of places because they've created opportunities for people to be spending a lotta time indoors together. Hard hit Michigan. Now seeing an uptick in cases after hundreds attended July Fourth Lake parties. Several partygoers have since tested positive for. For the virus health officials say the parties were so packed. Contact tracings impossible, meanwhile at a nursing home. In San Diego, an infectious disease control strike team tries to contain a massive outbreak. Eleven residents have died more than hundred others infected as the virus spreads, so too does concern. Things will only get worse. We're heading towards large shutdowns about half. The country is either in deep trouble or GONNA. Be there soon unless they really ratchet things back. And errands with me now Erin is there a concern that states reopened to quickly? Kate, experts say they believe that some states open too soon and too aggressively opening restaurants and bars despite evidence that it wasn't safe kate. All Right Aaron, thank you despite cases surging the White House is not only relying much less on the nation's top infectious disease, specialist, Dr Anthony, Fauci, but now actively trying to discredit him Kelly. DONAL has the latest. The White House writing its own new prescription for managing the pandemic crisis, a strategy to sideline, the nation's top infectious disease expert Dr. Anthony Fauci reducing his public visibility. We are still knee deep in the first wave of this officials are quietly providing a list of found cheese, public comments and advice dating back several months to undermine his credibility. The White House pointed to foul cheese January predictions that corona virus was not a major threat and likely had no asymmetric spread officials offered this. This February TV appearance. There is no need to change anything. You're doing on a day by day basis officials failed to note that found. She's views were considered accurate at the time, but the science evolves the effort to diminish him starts at the top disagree with them, you know Dr Fao. She said don't wear masks. And now he says where today, the president's head of Corona, virus testing also undercut his colleague I respect, Dr Fowzia Lot but Dr Fauci is not one percent right? Dr She has served six presidents and was awarded the Medal of freedom. His approval rating was sixty seven percent last month. The president in that same poll lagged behind at twenty six percent approval their assessments about the crisis now often diverge of the greatest testing program in the world I. Don't think you can say we're doing great. Doctor declined comment this weekend. The president ultimately followed that mask advice donning one for the first time in public Saturday. And Kelly in a separate development, can we talk about the former special counsel speaking out after the president granted, Roger Stone Clemency. This is a rare unexpected return of Robert. Muller Kate. The former special counsel has written an opinion piece to defend the integrity of the Russian investigation and the jury that found Roger Stone guilty of lying and obstructing. Muller writes that although the prison sentence has been set aside and in commuted, he remains a convicted felon and rightly so kate. Kelly O'Donnell at the White, house for us. Kelly thank you now to breaking news out of the port of San. Diego where a US Navy ship is burning following an explosion on board. At least twenty one people have been taken to the hospital. Mollie hunter has late details. We have! A large amount. Up here. Seen from the air smoke, still streaming out of the US Bonham Rashard and on the ground visible for miles, people jumping. Juice on. A massive three alarm fire. The San Diego Fire Department got the first call about nine am Sunday morning the second nine nine and the third nine fifty wine. Bullshit. The Navy, confirming twenty one people, Seventeen sailors and four civilians were hospitalized for non-life threatening injuries, one hundred and sixty were on board and the entire crew now off the ship and accounted for it. Could very well go on for days more likely. This will probably just. The water, do reason for the explosion, a fifty five gallon drum of oil. The good news was not an ordinance, and that's that was our concern that we macy's subsequent explosions that. But right now there is still a lot of fuel on that ship that starts becoming a part of the combustibles there. Then this will go on, and that's the danger. All that fuel potentially threatening the other ships at the base, Molly NBC News. From says he'll be briefed tomorrow. On the case of murdered Fort Fort Hood Soldier Vanessa Yen, her death, sparked renewed calls for closer look at how the military handles claims of abuse and harassment. Kathy Park has the latest. Convoy of cars in San Antonio travel thirteen miles, an honor of Omni. Specialist, Vanessa Gi. Her disappearance, gaining national attention with protesters, demanding justice, and now the Army Secretary is ordering an independent review of the command, climate and culture at Fort Hood adding we are saddened and deeply troubled by the loss of one of our own diene was last seen on base April, twenty second, setting off a surge with local law enforcement, fellow soldiers and Military Police investigators found the twenty year. Olds remains lay June not far from Fort Hood. According to a criminal complaint in federal court army specialist Aaron Robinson, a suspect in her killing died by suicide when confronted by police sesame. A civilian is accused of helping Robinson dispose of gins body. The soldiers grieving family wants answers and accountability my sister. Does justice, we believe an attorney representing the family says Diane told them before she vanished that she had been sexually harassed by a supervisor. The army's criminal. Investigative Organization said they had no credible report. This happened president. Trump weighed in on the case during a one on one with Jose, Diaz, Balart! Is there something that you could do to have more transparency in the way. The armed forces investigate sexual harassment and sexual abuse. They're going to reporting to me on Monday about it. I thought it was horrible. Tonight loved ones or fighting to keep the story alive. Service. Cathy Park NBC News. Up Next, we asked the experts. Would doctors send their own kids back to school this fall? On the brink can walls survive corona virus. After appearing on Oprah thousands flocked to seek the guidance of renowned Self Help Guru James Arthur, ray. He was a charismatic speaker whose unorthodox methods and philosophies promised his followers a clear path to wealth and happiness, but what many didn't know about where his more extreme methods methods that pushed his pupils to their limits, giving son the transformative experience they dreamed of. And killing others subscribe on Apple podcasts or binge. Episodes and listen ad free on the wondering APP. The meet the press chuck. Todd cast. It's an insider's take on politics, twenty twenty election and more candid conversations with some of my favorite reporters about things we usually discuss off camera. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast. We're back with the debate. That is front, and center for a lot of families right now whether or not, it's safe to send kids back to School Education Secretary Betsy Devos again. Today threatened to pull federal funding for schools that don't reopen, but many cities and states aren't sure yet if it's safe. We had our Dr John Torahs ask. A panel of doctors who are also parents what they would do. Tonight as schools struggle with reopening safely. NBC News reached out to five top pediatricians across the country, a random sampling of doctors to find out just how dangerous the corona virus is for kids are experts agree? Most children don't get as sick as adults and serious complications are rare. It's has been a strange pandemic, because usually for respiratory viruses, children are the first and the most substantially affected, and this has really been. been a flip of that. We're adults in particularly our older adults that have been more effective. In fact, kids only account for two percent of all cases. Doctors say they don't expect that number to significantly increase when schools open, because kids don't appear to be good at spreading the virus, our kids as good at transmitting the virus as adults, the data that's come out now. Seems to show that most transmissions occur from adults to adults or adults to children. The younger you are, probably the less likely you are to be able to transmit the disease while many teachers are concerned about reopening school so soon. The five doctors we spoke to agreed the benefits of being in the classroom far away the risk of disease, but the key is to reopen safely and we are. Not seen transmissions will work following. Some simple guidelines think each school system is going to have to come up with their own guidelines, because you can't just say that one city is just like the next, all agree guidelines should include rules for social distancing. Keep desks three to six feet apart and make sure aren't facing. Each other schools may want to consider holding gym classes outside in your perfect world of sending his back to school. What would you like seeing? In the school systems, they should try to increase the air flow in the classrooms. tried to distance as much as possible. I have been doing a lot of research. The looking to face masks I don't think they're. NECESSARILY USEFUL IN. Elementary school children they do. Provide protection I think for high school students. Would you let your kids go back to school? I will my kids looking forward to it just. Absolutely? Absolutely. They can. Data has station. Hesitation. Yes, I have no concerns about sending my child to school in the fall that my kids go back to school. Dr John Torres NBC News. So interesting still ahead as more stores go out of business. Is this the end of the shopping mall as we know it plus keeping them on their toes, the little girls teaming up with Dad's for a special kind of dance class. We've been talking a lot about the financial impact on our economy retail has taken a huge hitch, and along with that malls once a mainstay of the American shopping experience they are now on the brink of extinction Jolan Kent reports. Space in this ball. It's been a part of American culture and the economy for generations. But the future of the traditional mall, more uncertain than ever with the Cova crisis clothing stores for months on end, and in some cases closing up for good. That's what happened in Metro Center mall in Phoenix going out of business. After almost fifty years without about it, a lot of childhood memories here. With my mom Metro Center is the latest casualty in the retail Pokka, lips brick and mortar stores, shutting permanently as online shopping becomes an even bigger part of the new normal. Why has coronavirus done to the demise of malls? We could be talking about four hundred miles. That may not make it as a result of code because tenants don't have abilities that they don't want to pay their rent. They don't have the financial means. That's what ultimately forced legendary. Legendary names like Brooks, brothers JC Penney Neiman, Marcus, and J. crew to file for bankruptcy in the pandemic, and now experts say in this economic and health crisis shoppers are spending more carefully than ever and avoiding malls in crowds. Corona virus is also devastated multiplex movie theaters that are attached to mall, so many of them still closed are selling fewer tickets to maintain that social distancing cutting off an important source of foot traffic for them all. How does the? The movie theater factor change what happens for malls in their ability to survive well. That is the ten million dollar question I think that the future of the movie theaters are going to be actually the biggest change in the mall. We've spoken to some landlords who are already thinking about how to space, but we have to think about it in a different way if we don't. We're just kidding ourselves. That reinvention is already underway in Houston. This former sears. Sears will soon become a new home for startups, academic research apartments, and yes, some retail stores other ideas turn the sprawling spaces vacated by department stores into mini fulfillment centers, grocery, stores, gyms, and dividing up the real estate for smaller stores that got their start online, perhaps a new circle of life for retail as we know it. Jolan Kent NBC News Los Angeles when we come back raising the bar, the daddy daughter class helping these bears build stronger bonds. There's good news tonight about a unique way that some dads are building stronger bonds with their young daughters. It's their chance to become better role models, even if it means going way out of their comfort zone. Middle. 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The Unwritten Rules For Living In Chicago

Reset with Jenn White

19:00 min | 1 year ago

The Unwritten Rules For Living In Chicago

"This is reset. I'm Jen White. There are certain UNWRITTEN RULES FOR LIVING IN CHICAGO. Rules like `this use escalators correctly. Understand that windy city has nothing to do with weather masters etiquette. And please please were asking nicely. Take your massive backpacks off. Those rules are from time out. Chicago'S RECENT LIST OF UNOFFICIAL CHICAGO. Rules here to discuss those rules and more are to lifelong chicagoans to know. All the INS and outs of the city Alan Shugart author of what's with Chicago and Art Check Daddy Sims. He's host and executive producer real. Talk Real people on WWLTV Allen Art. Welcome to reset thank you. Hi It's a pleasure to be here. Okay we just heard some of the roles included in timeout. Chicago's list but I want to read a couple more before. Hearing your thoughts know your local grocery stores scale back your use of the term shy be able to recommend one good pizza spot ellen. What rules resonate with you? The most well. I think that they have some rules. That sound like they could be anywhere and not Chicago get on the escalator. And stay on the right unless you're in Tokyo. I can't imagine why you would think that's a rule for Chicago Moines my first rules would be fined a lawn chair whether you have a backyard or not because with that snow that may be coming. You're going to have to put it out on the street for Dibs. Which is a real Chicago thing that we all know about what about you? She took it off my list. I was the first thing I was going to mention. That Chicago is the king of dibbs and nowhere else. Do you go that people have deep in. So that is a very unique Chicago THING OF DOING THE DIV. Now I've got to ask because we've done some conversations about this on this show. Are you pro dibs or anti dibs? Ellen well I have to really admit that. I live in high-rise so I don't ever have to deal with it and so I don't take stand I say it is It exists and I suspect it has to do with. How well you get along with your neighbors as to whether or not it really work or what about you when I had a vehicle. I was fortunate enough that every neighborhood. I lived in pretty much every one parked in the same parking spot every night. I'm a commuter now so it's it's a little bit different so I've never had to do the dibs thing but I know people who are tried and true. I'm like is that Your Sofa. Did you put the dishwasher in front of your household a parking space and then who gets out of this thing. That is a serious commitment. There's a rule the list that you disagree with quite strongly. And I know you're GONNA you're gonNA break some chicagoans hearts here. That rule is except ketchup on hot dogs. And this is an issue you will go to the mat on you. Say never put Ketchup on hot dog. Jackley because the Chicago style hot dog has so many wonderful salty and sour tastes in it. It's got pickles and mustard and celery salt and That neon green relish and all of those flavors can be overwhelmed by the sweetness of catch up. So you WANNA EAT KETCHUP. Going to catch up on something else. Hamburgers hot worst. I don't care but leave the Chicago hot dog the way it is and the unwritten rule is if you're under the age of Seventeen. You don't put up on a hotdog art. I was getting ready to say being a kid. From the catch up our condiments became older inexperienced. True Chicago hotdogs. I found out catch. Up was a no no but growing up catch up. Was that mainstay. And when you were being fancy you put a little mustard on but catch up. Was definitely your condominium tour. I will say I have been. I've been convert to the no ketchup on hot dog. Before I came here I was like what but I will say the the combination of the sharpness of the mustard. The sharpness of the pickle. It cuts through the fatness of the hotdog. And now that's just. That's just how I eat. I eat my hot dog. You don't need ketchup. Hide all those flavors. Those flavors are great and you know. The hot dog has a very long history. If you WANNA put catch up on a bratwurst you can go talk to the people up in racine or something but in Chicago there. That hot dog. That kosher sound dog comes way back from the eighteen. Ninety three world's fair on up so you're eating a bit of history when you do them. No don't tell me not to have catchable my French fries. 'cause no no we'll have to ask fine. That's fine we got a tweet from Liz Gary Bay. She's a born and raised Chicago in also the founder of the Chicago Bruce Zim and she says she disagrees with the unofficial. No Ketchup Chicago rule saying she will defend it till the day. I Die Hashtag Chicago in for catch up so you fight. That battle will be on the same co-chairman co-chairman on that one yet. So even now if you go if you order Chicago style hot doc well you just eat it the way they give it to your for Katcha for some reason. I need that sweetness of that catcher barbecue sauce. The I I've even elevated in more than that now so I know I'm just one of those people I'm telling you must be to childhood ways you folks tweet at you either any on the list that you feel you know. They don't really apply to every Chicago. Inter aren't strictly Chicago rose. You mentioned the escalator. I mean any other things. Jump out to you well. They also talked about the Transit don't stand in front of the doors. Of course you shouldn't stand in front of the doors and of course everybody does but they do that in. New York they do then in Paris. They do that everywhere where you find a transiting on hey to keep going back to. Tokyo in Tokyo. They even push you in at the doors. That's would those With those pushers so I don't think that's necessarily a Chicago Admonition I think there are other things that would be more chicagoan aspect of it. Like if you're GONNA walk from one place to another one at you. Try The river walk. They adds a Chicago Thing to do Well I want to hear from you. I go over to the phones. We've got Catherine and Lakeview Catherine. A Chicago rule for you. My husband and I moved here for years ago from Manhattan and we are astonished about the difference in the honking between Chicago and New York. Is it quieter here or louder? Oh my gosh. It's so quiet here and my husband was a big honker. I mean in New York if the light changes and your car is not in motion you are GonNa get blasted by the next three cars. Catherine Year people are so polite and they way. And if there's a school bus or a garbage truck everybody waits and my husband says now when somebody honks. He gives them a look. Like what's your problem while Catherine? Thank you for the call. I have had a much different experience driving in my experience. First of all I do a lot of driving a lower wacker and apparently the lights down. They are just suggestions. That's like it's like it's red. Maybe you WANNA stop. But then it's a little bit like thunderdome too because the three or four cars will continue to move through the light if if the light changes and you don't move immediately people start honking so Catherine. I'm glad you're having that experience art. What about you if you're a true? Chicago in born and raised here. And you have to learn how to drive at a very young age so you learn the troublespots people who are new to Chicago. They have the trouble spot problem. Seventy ninth in. Stony island is an intersection. If you've ever had to come through it will blow your mind. You've got to figure out which light is my like. Can I turn here cannot earn here and so you know I learned at a very young age. They're certain intersections that you've got to give throw them no matter what but you're right about that lower wacker it's deep and I would ask Catherine because I think New York is is noisy with honking. But I would say that. Chicago has much worse. Sounds in terms of sirens Particularly if you live anywhere near a hospital where the ambulances are coming back and forth all the time. Doing our sirens are very loud. And they're used. They're used many a recording out in. The field has been interrupted by the sound. The sound of a siren we've got. Claudius in town on the line. Claudius what's your rule. So I came here when I was a year old from this small town of Polish and losing secured. Or you're GONNA kill me more than designed the sears tower. It's called dollar if you're from Chicago. It's not well it's our and if any legislation I would help to push it to payment back sears sears tower to me. I got you I got you. I had this conversation with somebody. Oh Gosh just over the weekend. When when she was saying like well technically. That's not the name any more. But yes that is that is the sears tower. Well you may be Going to see the end Willis Tower. Because now that Aon and Willis. I have merged they likely are going to have to change the name. But I don't think you'll see sears coming back because it's going to be sold and you're right the sears tower. One thing the other one that some people say is Marshall Field. We don't ever talk about macy's we talk about. We talk about Marshall Fields so our history is very important to us and it makes a lot of us aware of things and if you're new to the city it's something that you might want to learn a little bit about. Aren't you WANNA jump in here? I feel the same way I'm sears. Tower. I'm Marshall Fields. I'm you know the goal blades building on all of that and once I got into radio is when I had to learn to say. Wait a minute you've got to say the correct name because if not you'll be educating a city on names that are very old but I'm just I'm so tried intruded this city that when I take people on Tours I say listen. That's the sears. Our people know that from all over the world the new names to carry a list just to figure out. What's the new name now? Yeah yeah well so. We got a tweet from someone. That was actually backed up by our very own. Lisa lobbyists are midday anchor and she says my grocery store is the jewels and when I patronize. Its store in a store. I'm shopping at AAs. Goes and we got a tweet from JP who said you should add S to store names in Chicago. The satellite family names all these jewels but never targets or Walmart. It is Julius. If you ask me all day every day and I I had to correct that recently. Oh it's jewel OSCO but I will say that is not limited to Chicago in Detroit. I'm a I'm a native detroiter. It was Myers and krogers and there. There is no S. in any of those things. I don't know what that is. But that's that's that's in play in more than Chicago. It is and now. Of course there's Marianas which is a name with the s replacing. The old dominance. Let's go back to the phones. We've got Dan in Norwood Park. Dan Tell us your Chicago rule. No gloves allowed in. Sixteen inch softball. There you go okay. I'm not a softball player. Can you make a play on what you were just saying? It's always Comiskey Park to make our thanks so much with the CON. El You know exactly what he's talking about. Do we play a game called softball? We are the only city by the way that does that. Although there is one other that plays something called puffball up in Portland but it is a sixteen inch softball. So it doesn't get caught in a regulation baseball glove which is twelve inch ball. Much harder it's a softball you pitch underneath and you can find leagues in the Park District. All through the summer. Wow is our sport all right okay. Well now we know. Let's go back to the phones. You've got Joe in Beverly Jo. What's your Chicago Rule Versus Soda a Florida and I? I walked into place at a pop. They looked at me like I was crazy. Like what's a pop? You know exactly exactly and I feel like that sort of a mid western thing. It is and even so carbonated soda was also brought to the area in the eighteen. Ninety three world's fair but it very quickly turns into pop. And that's what everybody's asking for now in some places. I think mostly down south. It's all coke so you say they say what kind of Coke do you want? I wanted sprite and that was very confusing to me to start with okay. Are there certain things about Chicago and city life? That have changed for you over the years. Art Oh I don't know Growing up here and seeing the very various neighborhoods at the Various prejudices have gone on in our city. I've seen a lot of growth but I do think that things are very much still the same here you know. They're north siders there. The South Side. The West side oftentimes the south and west side. We're treated like the relative. Don't WanNa talk to very often and I just think that with this being such a world class city we should all be as one here. And that's what I'm hoping to see in my lifetime that we are all one Alan. What about for you well? He's very esoteric about this. I was going to be much more On the tap into things of just the fun stuff The city of Chicago has changed dramatically since we put in expressways where we chopped up our neighborhoods fairly specific substantially particularly on the south and West sides But we are the only people in the nation probably who call our expressways by name And most of those names are Democrats surprise. Surprise some presidents like Reagan. Get get their name. But that's one kind of thing that we are unique in We also use the L. and as Geoffrey Bayer pointed out on WCW the other night with his new L. Train Show whereas in New York they call everything The subway even if it's up in the air we call everything the L. Even if it's down in the subway so we are unique in that respect were also the the only major city in the United States that has elevated train tracks in its downtown so where are unique in a lot of ways and we should be proud of how unique we are. We should also be working on the other which I think. Mayor lightfoot doing with her east-west economic opportunity make a great dynamic team. Say A we can welcome back anytime but what I go back to the phones. You've got Constantine Crystal Lake. Constantine what's your Chicago rule? Well it's U-TURNS believe it or not Wife When she moved here from New York she's a very aggressive driver but she would never dream of taking a U-TURN. I wouldn't I. I did that. She was totally floored. And then I thought it was an isolated incident but other people from out of town would visit. I would do routinely u-turns they could not believe I got away with it so I think that's something unique to the city based on My my experience. Thank you for that call. Because he may be breaking the law my whole life. But I've been doing u-turns for a minute not just Chicago I. I didn't know that was unique to us. Although I do know that I am allowed a streets. They'll tell you when you can make a u-turn it right there on a sign for you right and sometimes people pay no attention. Whether or not they're breaking. The rules are not. Let's go to Eric. Downers Grove Eric. What you're Chicago rule. You don't ever cross the people who are doing traffic control in downtown uh-huh yes. It sounds like you're speaking from experience there. Eric I. I used to live on the corner. Roosevelt and Michigan. And we were in the high rise right there and then there's always people out you're doing traffic control for the big events and I saw so many people get just absolutely screamed at by the people who are doing traffic control because they didn't stop they didn't go whatever it was. You weren't falling their directions. Exactly they wanted and they'll get right in your window and Eric. Thanks for that call. We've got time for one more. Call Julia Anne Andersonville Julia. What's your Chicago rule? So My Chicago. Rule is also a public service announcement for all my cell cycle. If you want to bake north or South do not like down Ashland or Western Because you will not end well so there's so many other streets that you can use to get north and South Damon Integrate Street Health Street. And then of course the lakefront past but western and Ashland. Absolutely no Julia. Thanks so much for that call advise. Hey if you have other Chicago rules you want to share with us. Leave us a voicemail at eight nine one five nine nine four five. That's eight eight eight nine one five nine nine four five as we wrap up here. Alan. I WanNa make sure you've written several books about the history of Chicago. Your most recent book. What'S WITH CHICAGO? Takes a look cities quirks charms and personality. What's your favorite thing about Chicago? I love the fact that you can just walk everywhere. I think the city is beautiful No offense to New Yorkers but I'm delighted that we have alleys so that we don't put our garbage out onto the sidewalk and I revel in all of the historic things that go on here and as I think you know but I am a architectural center guide. So I do the tours. I do the river. Vote tour. And it's just fabulous to look at this legacy that we have here. What about you as a lifelong Chicago? I just love and Adore this city and I wish nothing but the best for our city our new mayor and I'm looking forward to what's next. I would love to see the city be equal from one into the other. I am honored to talk to the city every night and encourage them to be the best that they can be and that's it just go Chicago right. Absolutely Art Chat Daddy Sims host and executive producer of real talk real people on WBZ O. N. And Alan Shugart author of what's with Chicago Alan Art. Thanks so much thank you. And that's your Sunday reset. Hey thanks so much for tuning in. Hey if you have the time pop over. Leave us a review for the reset podcasts. It helps other people find us. I'm Jen White. Enjoy the rest of your Sunday and let's talk said.

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Regulate me!

Marketplace with Kai Ryssdal

27:41 min | 2 years ago

Regulate me!

"This marketplace podcast is brought to you by Sino an enterprise e signature solution, create custom workflows and get documents. Like triclean signed from any device, save thousands of dollars on paperwork closed deals up to four times faster and enjoy seamless integration. With the cloud platforms. You already use? Visit sign now dot com slash marketplace. And get a free thirty day trial and by link din instead of posting on a job board post your job on linked in the place where people go every day to make connections grow in their career. And discover new opportunities. It's the best place to find the right person who will help grow your business. Go to Lincoln dot com slash marketplace. And get fifty dollars off your first job post. That's linked in dot com slash marketplace. Terms and conditions apply. Shutdowns? It seems can make the corporate heart grow fonder from American public media. This is marketplace. In Los Angeles. I'm Carl result is Wednesday. The sixteenth of January as always to have your long everybody day. Twenty six is where we find ourselves no signs of relief in the offing. And so as happens when you go without something for a while, a certain wistfulness has come over some parts of corporate America, along ING if you will for a little good fashioned government bureaucracy because while it may slow things down without it. It is tough to get anything done from Washington. Marketplace's Kimberly Adams gets us going. Justin, Cox is suing the federal government because he can't sell his beer, specifically our spring, seasonal beer. The precious. One was in Africa, Cox is CEO of atlas brew works a craft brewery here in DC, the company is stuck in a holding pattern because the agency that would approve the new label for the precious one is shutdown. We're in this. Various position. Now, we have beer sitting in our tank that we don't have a place to put it into the market without this label Bridget dueling with the George Washington regulatory study center. I mean, it's hard enough to run a small business. But when you're waiting for someone else to make a decision, those are hours and days, and maybe even weeks when you're not able to proceed she says, lots of industries could use a little more government decision making right now drugmakers can't bring new products to market automakers are waiting for emission sign offs. And that label issue comes up for the meat industry to make a label change of meat and poultry you have to go to USDA and actually have that label change of crew many federal food inspections aren't happening. But Richard Williams who spent almost three decades in food safety at the FDA says we shouldn't worry too much have set of for food manufacturer to keep his food safe a pretty strong in this country. No one wants to be at the. Leaving end of a recall, even if the recall happens after the shutdown is over whenever that might be in Washington. I'm Kimberly Adams for marketplace. British Prime Minister Theresa may is going to keep her job at least for now. She won by the most slender of margins a no-confidence vote in parliament today, whether she's happy about that. Or not as tough to know because she still has Brexit smack in her lap. Will it still happen after yesterday's parliamentary torpedoing of the deal that may negotiated with the EU? Not sure when Dono are all the possibilities known in the vernacular as a hard Brexit, assault Brexit, or no Brexit still out there. Yeah. I guess a commonsense observer would say all of this uncertainty should be taking a toll on global markets and the water me, right? We'll see here's got Tom key markets gave rather ho-hum reaction. Yesterday's no votes on the British government's Brexit plan. London. Stocks rose a bit the pound gave up a tad because many investors predict the UK is moving to a softer divorce from Europe or none at all. In other words, a win for economic connectedness. Jonathan Portis teaches economics at King's College in London compared to the US China trade war breaks today, actually, pretty small veer nonetheless, it might be traps to signal of swing back against poke protectionism, but they could be wrong political indecision could lead to a chaotic Brexit in March goods piling up at the British border grounded planes, European economic pain. Many companies wanna stock extra parts inventory just in cases shortages, but today's global supply chains don't always allow for that says a communist Peter homes at the university of Sussex is spoke by Skype. Just in time systems is you don't have spare capability to do that the food industry. Simply conned expand frigerator well house because their own sunny Brexit uncertainty adds to a global laundry list of question marks US, China trade Iran Oil Sanctions, North Korea. But Ian, Bremmer president of the Eurasia group says none of these are immediate crises yet. I think the markets will say there's nothing really to worry about because we don't have these problems. But we're not resolving any of them. He says when the next real crisis comes the global economic pain could be big I'm Scott Tong for marketplace. Today's man bites economic dog dog story comes to us from Sears and the federal bankruptcy code the men who drove Sears into bankruptcy just made a deal to buy Sears in a bankruptcy auction the retailers once and I guess future. CEO Eddie Lampert is gonna pay just over five billion dollars for. The company used on the deal does still have to be approved by judge which say that. But as we have reported on this program, Sears has been struggling for a long time. So why exactly does Lampert one pour more money into it? Marketplace's Mariel Sagarra has that one win it company files for chapter eleven bankruptcy. There are a couple of things can go. It can reemerge with a plan to pay back its creditors. The banks and businesses that owes money to or it can liquidate your broken up and sold in pieces and the creditors are repaid in some shape, or fashion. Robert Rostan is principal at training the street. Most of Sears is creditors want the company to liquidate. But a liquidation would be real bad for any Lampert. He could have walked quite a bit of money 'cause Lampert and his hedge fund ESL investments are Sears is largest creditors. They've lent Sears more than a billion dollars. And in a liquidation that could get wiped out Lampert. Hedge funder also. So the retailers biggest shareholders and as an equity investors. Good chance that you're not gonna get anything back the equity. Investors are only paid. If the creditors are paid. So Lampard is making this bid to keep Sears alive. At least that way, the company can still generate cash, for instance, years ago, a real estate firm Lampert owns bought hundreds of Sears stores. Merlo compelling teaches finance Cornell that could be some, you know, cashflow that can be expected such as the payment of the rent that goes to Spock Lampert negotiated one other benefit for himself in this deal. It would protect them from lawsuits by creditors who accused him of stripping Sears of assets representatives for Lampert declined to comment for this story, a Merial Sagarra for marketplace. Wall Street on this Wednesday, you can take your government shutdown, and you can take your Brexit and you're slowing Chinese economy. And you know, what you can do with them. Well, what you can do with them. So you can stack them up against corporate profits, and that'll explain why the major. Indices were up today. We'll have the details when we do the numbers. There's a special section of the Detroit auto show, which is more properly. The North American International auto show, which is in full swing this week. That's all about the car of the future fully self-driving more experiential than I don't know. A minivan your slept kids and the groceries back and forth in and while those kinds of cars is still a ways away from showing up at your local dealership partially autonomous cars are on the roads right now loaded with things like beeping alerts to let you know, if there's a car, you're blind spot or steering wheels vibrate when you drift into another lane. It's cool and it can save lives. But as marketplace, Ben Bradford reports drivers might be relying on that stuff. Just a bit too much turn on your TV these days, and you could be forgiven for thinking the self driving car is already here. The ability to make thousand decisions before you even make wine the confidence. Three sixty dollars. Nissan, pro pilot assist with the push of a button the line between man and machine was blurred. With pilot in the brand names and ads showing drivers releasing the steering wheel as their cars, keeping from drifting. Even savvy drivers can overestimate the capabilities of their advanced safety features fifty seven year old Scott Berg, bought his Volkswagen. Atlas a couple of years ago in part for the tech. Yeah. So this is my favorite part. What's great about this card? We're on a freeway north of Los Angeles when he pushes the button on a steering wheel. And then takes his foot off the pedals adaptive cruise. I'm gonna get behind this guy. And I'm gonna tell the car that I wanted to go eighty it starts to accelerate and recruiting up on the car head of us as we get close. He still not touching the pedals. But the car slows down pretty much set. It forget it. Almost Burg explains. The sensors can detect moving cars, but can't read tight turns or suddenly stopped vehicles. I mentioned they can also get jammed by mud or snow. I did not know that. And it makes me glad that I live in LA now Burg's researched vehicle even flipped through the owner's manual. But he still has knowledge gaps about his cars. Advanced features a recent AAA study found he's like a lot of people four out of five drivers didn't know their blindspot detectors can miss pedestrians or vehicles at certain speeds, a quarter said they no longer always check their blind spots. That's the attitude than it's only a matter of time before you get an accident UC, Irvine vehicle technology researcher, Hilary Abraham. Doesn't blame drivers for their misconceptions. Most people looked to their car salesman to explain their. Hi tech features. But she says they don't always have the answers the onus is really being placed on the consumer to find information, but it's really difficult to find first drivers have to sort through all the jargon advanced cruise control on one car is active cruise control on another or intelligent cruise control or distract plus automatic emergency breaking has over forty different names and Alex Stein. At the nonprofit national safety council says each one works differently. Some don't stop you. Some just slow you down some can't see pedestrians others can. And the problem is there's no common nomenclature out there. There is no commonality. He says many drivers deactivate the features because they don't understand them and find them annoying automakers acknowledged the confusion Andy christianson works on advanced safety features for Nissan. He says automakers shouldn't try to explain all the complex limitations instead customers need to keep in mind. One guiding rule these allergies aren't driving for them. They are still driving. They're still in full control. These systems of helping in the background the national safety council thinks drivers should know the individual limitations to explain them. The council's launched a website and a smartphone game of all things. But Epstein says there's only one real solution to educating drivers education needs to be done by the automakers in the vehicle because every system is different. Because if even the smartphone game can come with two to'real when you first open it why can't a car in Los Angeles. I'm Ben Bradford for marketplace. We did some reporting earlier this week about retail over the holidays who did well, and who did it less. Well, Macy's JC. Penney are firmly in that latter category. But it got us thinking this morning about Alanna forgo. She manages the Butte plaza Molin Butte, Montana. We talked to her every now, and then conversations that turned not infrequently to the retail apocalypse. That's been happening past couple years. She even lost her own JC Penney at the buke plaza mall, which is where we got her on the phone today. Halonen chi? How are you Harvey new year happy new year to you too? Thanks for taking the time to call us. I I understand you had a nose bleed situation there. So I appreciate less. Yeah. There's there's walking program today. And you know, they come in from the cold. Not locking. Yeah. So how'd you just pass off some tissue? Everything's good. Everything's good show. The walking program is just people walking around the mall. Yes. Yeah. Our local community health. She has organized a program they used to walk outside. But then things got a little smokey. So that drove them into the mall, and they have enjoyed it so much they have coordinated their walking program inside. Well, that's good. 'cause you know, you're getting people in the mall, and and look it's that's what that's why we're calling right to find out what life is like in the plaza them all these days better. Well, that's good. Because honestly last time we spoke. It was maybe not so good. First of all how we're the holidays for y'all holidays were strong, people were just wonderful. They shopped local they they shopped small they shopped strong on there really seemed to be a commitment to that this year, so small dollar purchases. But a lot of them a lot of them. Yes. It was just very joyful in very supportive. Good one of the things that bid kind of bummy out last time. We spoke was that one of your anchor stores was closing. And you had I think it was a it was a hotel nearby. Using one of your big stores is like storage space. Right, right. They were doing a remodel. So they were staging all of the new furniture here. And then moving it to the hotel as the emptied the rooms. But now you have filled that space with a tenant. I have that. Right. We have least that space. Yes. Talk to me about that. So they actually are a call center business. They provide support for about seventy clients. It is a call in center, not telemarketing. So they won't be calling. You. It's the people you wanna talk to. I I was thinking before we got on the phone today that that really your job as the manager of that mall is basically to keep the square footage rented, right? And and it doesn't much matter really. Whether it's a big department store, maybe or or call center, you know, we we've talked about this sustainability of exclusive retail properties really needed to be looked at properties who've embraced mixed use concepts. That's the direction that's going to be our reboot. But you know, if we can bring up to three hundred people that's definitely going to bring some life back to this block three hundred jobs. That's what you mean. Right. Yes. We couldn't have asked for a better happy new year. Now talk to me about the rest of the mall Hauer, not the big anchor properties. But some of the smaller retail spaces through that mall. Do you know things still been tough, we closed our PayLess shoe store? Yeah. And our our managers. She's. With the company thirty four years, a personal friend of mine that was really hard. You know, if there's one thing that retailers do as we adapt if you don't adapt you will go the way of the dinosaur. I know things are going to pick up a lot of go. She's the manager at the plaza mall and Butte Montana. Thanks a lot with. Two. Coming up all of my nervous energy, everybody. Remember running around the house cleaning, everything got to keep your mind off the shutdown. Somehow right first, though, let's do the numbers. Now industrials up one hundred forty one points today about a half percent twenty four thousand two seven the NASDAQ picked up ten points. One tenth of one percent seven thousand thirty four five hundred advanced five points about two tenths percent twenty-six and sixteen Marielle about Eddie Lampert bid to save. What's left of Sears? Sears shares. Surged fifty five five five percent that they'll nickel elsewhere in retail Wal-Mart gained a tenth of one percent. Macy's down two percent day Ford is forecasting softer than expected. Fourth-quarter earnings for says is not going to be offering any kind of full forecast for the full year. Shares down six percents day just yesterday Ford and manufacturing lines with Volkswagen. Volkswagen down a tenth of one percent overseas. Trading GM up three tenths percent bonds fell yield on the ten year treasury note rose to two point seven two percent. You're listening to marketplace. Not everybody gets a chance to learn about the economy in school. Marketplace helps you continue your education in a way that smart accessible, and hopefully even a bit fun. 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We talk with some degree of regularity about bonds on this program government bonds, first of all, and they're also important interest rates also corporate bonds debt that companies issued borrow money to expand an invest, but not all debt is created equal. There are bonds that are super safe, and there are bonds that are less safe, but more remunerative and that slice of the corporate bond. World has been showing some signs of trouble. Marketplace Justin ho has that one corporate bonds are. Graded by the ratings agencies ratings like a AA. Triple b Karen Rothman is at John Hancock asset management the credit rating comes from the perceived risk of default bonds that score low are considered junk, the formal phrases high yield. And this is not an insult. It's a wager. Higher return higher risk of the fault. Rothman says junk bonds or common for companies that tend to carry a lot of debt a good number of bonds are issued by energy companies other issuers in the market that are quite large. Telecommunications companies media and technology companies and healthcare companies sprint has been sewing. Billions in junk bonds to help build its giant five G network. Del Sol junk bonds to finance acquisition, twenty sixteen junk bonds are part of a normal growing economy. But when there are signs the economy is slowing down that could mean that default rates in in the corporate space will pick up. That's Jeffrey Cleveland chief economist at paid in regal. He says that could explain why investors withdrew a record amount from junk bond funds last year. The volatile stock market isn't helping investors appetite for risk either. Cleveland says junk bonds or a barometer for economic slowdowns the times when you see the worst performance in high yield are around the time of a recession. So if that's why money is leaving the space and that it that is more worrisome phenomenon. Investors aren't the only ones shunning junk bonds companies have an issuing them because those high yields are expensive to pay out. There wasn't a single junk bond sale in December. But there are signs of recovery. In the junk bond market for one companies are selling them again this month. Putra squalor is managing director at Penn co Prisma if they want to expand or do wanna buy another company at some point some of the companies that are going to be pushed by the realities of their business to come to hail market. But there are still concerns. Pascall says right now investors are more worried about companies like General Electric, giant's beleaguered. Conglomerates whose corporate bonds haven't given a junk rating yet the question with certain companies like GE were to have a lot of debt on their balance sheet and their earnings are presumably on one trajectory, and that's downwards the are at risk of becoming downgraded to yield right now. There's roughly a trillion dollars of the kind of barely passing debt debt gets downgraded. It would flood the junk bond market making their values fall, even lower in their yields even higher in New York. I'm Justin ho for marketplace. President Trump signed the government employees fair treatment act of two thousand nineteen into law today unintentional irony aside, think about it for a second. It guarantees federal employees that they are actually going to get paid whenever the shutdown finally ends. But there is a whole another group of people who are affected by the shutdown and most if not all of them aren't going to be getting anything when they go back to work government contractors is talking about people who do everything from computer programming to food service to you name it for the government, and that gets us to a special shutdown edition of our series. My Conny stories of people in how they are making a go of it out there this time, it's a retired government contractor near Washington DC. I'm Janet Martin. And I'm retired software engineer used to work in government contracting. I started somewhere in the late eighties. So it was about twenty five years or so worked for many many different government contracting firms. Little ones big ones all across the spectrum the first shutdown. I went through was the Newt Gingrich shutdown which was before this one the longest one ever. And I was very lucky. It was early on in my career. So I was not contributing majority of income to the household. My husband had a good job at the time. It was just very stressful because I was home. I knew stuff was piling up. All I remember is ended up cleaning my house. In all of my nervous energy day. Remember running around the house cleaning, everything some of the shutdowns were we were very lucky. They were just like you. Now. Shuts down on Friday opens back up by Monday. But some of them went on for a while. Looking back on it. I realized that after that very first long shutdown that I was involved in. We always made sure we live inside our paychecks. So you know, we drive our cars till they literally fall apart in the driveway. We don't go on elaborate vacations. You know, we bought a house way back when thinking of Entschlie we would flip it for a bigger house. We've never done that. And it even affects me now. Even though I'm retired. I still kinda keep the expenses down as much as I can. We don't go out and go crazy. As I was listening to all of this shutdown information. I realized that's part of the decisions I've made over the years having this happen over and over and over again, you don't live. At the level that may be your paycheck would imply you could live 'cause you know that that paychecks not. It may not be secure. Can't do this series. Without your helps a hook us up. And let us know how your economy is doing just place can do that at marketplace dot org. Final note on the way out today in which I'm reasonably certain the Federal Reserve is just messing with the Fed's beige book came out today. The central banks regularly scheduled regional report on the American economy divided by its twelve district. Well, the fed said was that most of the American economy is growing at a modest or moderate pace, which is fine, except we looked it up modest, according to Mariam Webster's definition for a means limited in size or scope. Moderate again, burying Webster definition number. Five means limited in scope fact. I'm right, right. They're messing with us. And we are out of here. The down dust up one hundred and forty one points today about a half percent. The NASDAQ picked up ten tenth percent, yes. And five hundred advance five points about two tenths of one percent are media production. Team includes Sarah gear, Jake Gorski, drew justed, Jeff Peters, Dan Powell, Daniel Ramirez, Charlton Thorpe, and Ben tolliday. I'm calm Razon. We will see tomorrow. This is a PM.

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Trump Steering Economy To An Outdated Model: Joe Stiglitz

P&L With Pimm Fox and Lisa Abramowicz

31:10 min | 2 years ago

Trump Steering Economy To An Outdated Model: Joe Stiglitz

"This portion of PNL is brought to you by pimco for investors who demand more than the markets deliver all investments contain risk and may lose value consult your investment professional before investing. Welcome to the Bloomberg PNL podcast. I'm Pimm FOX along with my co host Lisa Abramowicz each day we bring you the most important note worthy and useful interviews for you and your money, whether you're at the grocery store or the trading floor. Find the Bloomberg PNL podcast on apple podcasts soundcloud and Bloomberg dot com. I'm Pimm FOX, and it is my pleasure to welcome our next guest, Joseph Stiglitz professor Stiglitz was born in Gary Indiana in nineteen forty three. Of course he is a Nobel laureate awarded the Nobel prize in economics along with two colleagues in the year, two thousand and one. He is author of many books, including globalization and its discontents, and he joins us here in studio professor. Stiglitz thank you very much for being here. I'm wondering if we could just start with a kind of anecdotal question having to do with Gary Indiana. We were just talking off line just a moment ago. Do you believe that growing up in Gary, Indiana influenced your perspective and your ultimate goal in learning about the way the world works over very much. So. And I think you've written about that. I became an economist because of what I saw growing up in Gary Indiana. I had thought I was going to be a physicist theoretical physicist, but and I continued in my studies would I seen growing up this enormous inequality, discrimination, episodic unemployment, labor strife, kept gnawing at me, and I finally decided. I wanted to understand that better. I wanted to come to an understanding of how we could do better about these problems. And so that was really would rove me into comics. And I feel, you know, as I've studied economics, the perspectives that I bring are so different from those who grow up in a more privileged life in a rich suburb. One of the standard views and economics is that markets work very well. Everybody is well off trickle down economics, Prado Optima what he concepts like that and sorta pollyannish view that. Of of the world, and I could never share that pollyannish you view because I saw it wasn't working for the people that surrounded me when I was growing up in as far as you were able to take that experience and then use it in your understanding of economics, you helped to pioneer something that has been described as asymmetrical information. In other words, how do you take information that may produce dissidents or a lack of conformity in its result? And I'm wondering if you could talk a little bit about how you sort of square the circle so to speak, or or how do you reconcile a lot of those inconsistencies. The key issue that I faced as I began. My research was to try to understand the difference between the standard view of economics at that time. Adam Smith, the market's invisible hand. Ari pursuit of self interest leagues, the world to be as if society's well being was being maximized. With would I saw growing up and that led to ideas about situations where marks don't work well and uncovering van that there had been an implicit assumption that economists hadn't really recognized for two hundred and some years, which is. The idea that information was perfect and that a world in which information is very imperfect, where some people know things that others don't is totally different from a world in which information is perfect. It's a little bit like in physics. We talk about a friction 'less world and then a world with friction and you would never construct an airplane based on a theory of friction Lewis world. It would just wouldn't make any sense. And yet we were trying to construct an economy based on a friction Lewis world and it wasn't working very well. Can you then take that perspective and speak to us about the current state of, let's say, trade negotiations or trade relationship between the United States and the world. I mean, we can talk China. You can mention Mexico, Canada, and so on. But I'm wondering if you could use. That to describe, what do you believe is the current feeling about these trade negotiations that they really headed somewhere intelligent, or is this just a political game? I think the trade negotiations are not going well for anybody in. The reason that's true is that is really the blame as I put in the United States that Trump does not have any conception about what it is that he's trying to do. What is the problem facing the United States? Now, he says, the problem is that we import more than we export. We have a trade deficit and he attributes that to unfair trade. They're taking advantage of us, but the basic inside of economics is that trade deficits are not. Based on trade with any particular country x. we call multilateral if we buy a little bit, less closed from China will buy a good bit more for Malaysia or Indonesia, and it won't make much difference for anybody if we buy from somebody that's not the cheapest. Our cost will be a little bit higher. It will make a different for Indonesia, but not for the American producers. What determines the overall trade deficit is we call macro-economics disparity between what we invest inside the United States and what we save inside the United States. And if we aren't saving enough to finance the investment, we have to borrow from abroad and that borrowing from abroad, a results in our exchange rate going up and that leads to correspond you, that will be a trade deficit. So the problem in the United States is that we've been borrowing of lot from abroad and the tax Bill in December two thousand seventeen, and the increase in expenditures in January two thousand eighteen. Really blew a hole in our fiscal position. A lot of people talked about how we're going to have to borrow that much more from abroad, and what does that mean? That means we will have an even larger trade deficit and extra no matter what the outcome of any trade negotiations are. Those outcomes would determine which countries we buy from, but not our overall trade deficit. So no matter what his negotiators do. It won't affect that basic economics now where the negotiations do make a difference is. Particular countries exporting particular goods or importing particular goods. Now, this is another area where Trump is really very misconceived in his economics. Modern economics recognized that we are a service sector economy. We are are vibrant sectors are financial sector education sector, our house actor. These are among the areas where we're making, you know, we're, we're really successful. There are other areas where we've moved on. Automobiles. Natural resources. Take the president stopped Abou Cole. In all of the extractive sectors together, including col- there are about half the number of workers as professional sports people. So if you say we want to have a cold policy ought to say, we ought to have a sports policy. You know, if you're talking about jobs there twice as many in those areas, there are five times as many jobs in sober inks to panel installation then in the coal industry. So this was not the case in one thousand nine hundred fifty sixties. We didn't have a solar panel. He's keeping looking back at the world as it was seventy five years ago. Next not where we should be going. We should be going towards the twenty percent. So his focus on the old world on the industrial world would of nineteen. Fifties means that were. Not reshaping our economy twice a twenty percent Frey. Is there a political obstacle to get these kinds of things done that you describe whether it be the shift from coal and the jobs that were in the coal industry to, let's say solar, just as an example of solar industry, is there a political obstacle because you've also written about the money that influences elections a very much. So. The problem is the existing interest. I don't want to give them up and they look to government for subsidies for a monopoly power. We need there is an important role for government, but for facilitating transition to the new economy expire, helping people get the skills that they're going to need in the new economy. You know, that's the role. The government has traditionally played back after World War Two. We had to move from agriculture to manufacturing Konami and after World War Two, we had the GI Bill. We've said that everybody who had fought in the war, which was virtually every young man, and a lot of women could get as much education as they were qualified for that was a sensual, not only as basic sense of opportunity, but it was actually essential for the transformation from the of the United States from agriculture to manufacturing. Today, we need to do a similar transformation for manufacturing to a new service sector, innovative. Novel, each based economy and government isn't there to help us. In fact, the Trump government is focusing on back on coal and all those other industries that we ought to be moving away from. So we need the help of the government not to protect the old industries, but to help us move into the more dynamic sectors where we'll be a lot more prosperous and a lot healthier want to give you the opportunity to speak about the essential environmental industries that could be created or are being created because this is a topic that you've done a lot of work on. Yeah. Well, I, as I mentioned, solar panels have the opportunity potential creating so many more jobs than the co industry and the same time. We know what does to our health, the particular manner, the pollution, not. Speak of the global warming and the impacts of global warming. We are now realizing are much greater than when I began studying that matter twenty five years ago I was on the intergovernmental panel on climate change, and we looked at the climate change at that point. We had really serious, but we made a mistake. We do not into Speight how fast things were going to change and how bad they were going to be the dimensions of this extremes of weather. You know, the United States lost about one to two percent GDP just last year and the hurricanes. These are weather related events, and there's absolutely no doubt that climate change global warming is leading to more severe weather events, whether it's the hurricanes or the drugs, the fires that have. Affected afflicted, California, we're already paying an enormous price for that. So if we can make a little bit of investment in moving to these more dynamic pro environmental green policies, I think it will stimulate our economy but will also help protect us against the ravages that we are already beginning to face in about thirty seconds. What would you like young people to take away from your perspective, about economics and what they can achieve. I think. They should take away that we can have as prosperous world in the future as we had in the past, but it will not be done by the market on its own. We are going to have to have an app to government policies, progressive policies, and the strategy of blaming others, whether it's immigrants or foreign trade, or that is not going to bring America prosperity. What is going to bring America breast Bertie is investing in our future, not our past, but our future and. Creating the kind of progressive environment that says, what we tried to achieve seventy years ago, secure retirement housing for all health care education for our children, jobs role. These are all things that are within our grasp. We are a much wealthier country than we were seventy five years ago. The question is, can we deploy that wealth in ways that will benefit all of us? Thank you very much. Thank you very much for being with us professor. Joseph Stiglitz Nobel laureate professor of economics at Columbia University, and the author of globalization and its discontents. Thank you very much for your time. Thank you today. Fixed income demands more than a fixed approach. It means staying ahead of ever changing markets making the most of traditional strategies, but also looking. On them, not just finding opportunities for investors, but creating them. We didn't invent fixed income, but we reinvent it every day. Pimco all investments contain risk in may lose value, investing in the bond market is subject to risks. Consult your investment professional prior to making an investment decision. The topic now is Sears Sears holdings hundred and twenty five year old retailer filed for bankruptcy protection. It is been saddled with billions of dollars in debt this as it struggled to adjust to shifts in online consumption. No Hiebert our director of credit research for Bloomberg intelligence joins us. Now the tell us, how did this happen and what's next? All right. No, I have an idea how it happened, but I want you to explain how did it happen that Sears ended up saddled with all this debt. Never mind the strategic issues having to do with competition in the retail world. How did it end up financially in this position while I think those two items are definitely not mutually exclusive rights. So I think you know when not to go too far back into the. Way back time machine. But when Eddie kind of brought k. mart out of bankruptcy talking about Eddie Lampert, the manager who basically owns Sears, correct. So via is ESL investment fund. He had brought KMart out of bankruptcy and then leverage that I share his back in five and back then he had a new way to run retail, which was basically to not invest in it, right. So don't invest in capital expenditures trying to cut back on employees and do all these things to basically maximize cash flow, which is a great short-term strategy, but it's not how retail works. And so through the accrual of that over years, they just, you know, it worked for the first four or five years, and then they started lose money and lose more money and lose more money. And the way that they funded that loss was to basically borrow money. What does Eddie Lampert want to do now with his holdings in Sears given that they are in bankruptcy protection? Because there's a discussion about buying large portion of the company store base. Yeah. And I think you know, for if I'm in Eddie issues, I think that that makes the most sense, right. I mean to the degree that you've got four or five hundred stores somewhere in this, you know, nine hundred plus store portfolio that are actually profitable and that you can build around these start to think sort of the adjacent pockets of value that you're trying to maximize any creditors trying to maximize here. Right? Which is stuff like Ken more the services business or the auto parts business, or speaking specifically to Eddie Lampert in his ESL fund the Sierra ties real estate spin off that they had a few years back like those are all things that you need to try and preserve the value of. And if you just let this thing sort of wind its way down into a liquidation, you lose that. So in order to kind of keep the value tattoo, some of those assets, the thing you need to do is is sort of find a store base that you can build around knoll. Given the attempts in the past to revive Sears? Is this an attempt to just get through this. Holiday shopping season rather than a big strategic rethink about what they do and how they do it. So I think that's really gonna come down to how contentious the core proceedings get. Right. So I think if if he can't get enough creditors to sort of play along, then it'll be very, very difficult to sort of rebuild anything out of this. And you end up sort of in a toys r. us situation where you've just got too many conflicting interests in the courts. The longer it drags on the hard. It is to resuscitate, whatever's left of the retail business. I think if he can leverage his position as the largest creditors. So of the five billion dollars in change of debt that the company has. He's half of that if he can leverage that position somehow into buying or securing, I guess, you know, sort of relief from other creditors. I think there's something he can do here because again, I think it's not just about Sears itself, but it's about sort of. How do you preserve you know value? So Kenmore, it'd be a great example, whereas, you know, there's some value attached to Kimball or if you have a still solvent Sears. But if you're in insolvency, you're only bidding for intellectual property that may be worth very, very little to third parties without a Sears. Know based on what you know from these kinds of negotiations between creditors and debtors in chapter eleven bankruptcy. Can you tell us what the tone or indeed what kind of relationship, if any, do you believe would exist between those two groups at this point? Well, that's going to be an interesting dynamic because I think the only real big third party credit here that we know about right now is fair home who is involved with Eddie and ESL in terms of both on the equity side and on the credit side. They're going to be one of the largest creditors going in and they obviously got hurt pretty substantially not only on the. Pretty exposure, which they've largely x. exited. Excuse me. But also in the eight percent notes, which is their biggest piece which are trading, you know, call it low teens, and that's obviously paper that they owned at par, right? So they're pretty substantially impaired. So figuring out where they're going to be in this is going to be a big part of it if they choose to make a contentious, then this this'll probably have a pretty challenged end. Is this why they couldn't reach a resolution out of court. Well, I think I guess there's probably a different a number of different ways to sort of play that one. My, you know. P leaves, or you want to phrase it would be that Moore came down to, you need assets to restructure around. So if you think back to ESL's proposal from a few weeks back which basically envisioned recapitalizing the entire balance sheet. But it also meant moving a lot of the assets that remain off the balance sheet. You know, the board is probably looking at that and saying, if we're gonna restructure around anything, we can't do it without Kenmore. We can't do it without the real estate, etc. And so you know, they might have been having a half an eye towards their own liability. If this thing went into chapter eleven, and what happened, if they just pretty much ship all the valuable assets off the balance sheet and into ESL. So so I think there's a couple of dynamics at play there. Wanna thank you very much for sharing your information and experience with us. No Hiebert is our director of credit research for Bloomberg intelligence speaking about Sears holdings filing for bankruptcy. President, Donald Trump said that he is sending US secretary of state Mike Pompeo to meet with Saudi King Solomon to discuss the fate of a Saudi dissident journalist who disappeared after entering the Saudi consulate in Istanbul. Here to tell us more about the situation is Ali off med. He is the founder and director of the institute for Gulf affairs based in Washington DC and joining me here in studio is Toby, Harsha. Bloomberg opinion editor, gentlemen. Thank you very much for being here Ali Akhmed. Maybe you could just describe what do we know at the moment. What we know that the moment is that the Turkish government has if falls to that Mr. has okay with kin inside the consulate, and we know that identity of the killers and it's absolutely no doubt that the Saudi team, the fifteen thirteen, including two members of this. Confidence that bodyguards what involved in the crime and the Turks, what he paying to go. She ate the kind of deal between them and the Saudis and actually give them because it's now becoming Evesham incident and the king's nephew and governor of mecca is an uncut meeting with with president daughter to gone to come to a solution or to an an exit out of this a out of this crisis, and this can that, and he was killed in a very Horford commander. I would say ISIS die in the murder, and it's always see what happens. Hang on just a second. I wanna bring in Toby, Harsha, Bloomberg opinion editor to comment on this Toby. Why should Americans pay attention to the disappearance of a Saudi dissident journalist? Well, I think we should pay attention to the disappearance of. All journalists. I think that given the tremendous support that the Trump administration, particularly the president and Jared Kushner have given to the Saudis which many people saw them giving the green light. For example, to attempts to isolate cutter to continue prosecuting this disaster of a war in Yemen, that and support for for Mohammed bin Salman the really runs the country that we need to look at that policy and think about whether we have to be more critical. Well, Ali, I'll admit the president said that he spoke earlier with the king of Saudi Arabia and described the conversation that the king denied any knowledge of whatever may have happened to us. He says, quote, our Saudi Arabian citizen, do you believe that that is the context. Content of that conversation? I, I'm not sure what obviously I was not listening in, but I would want to say that this is the greatest involved with them when American presidents ever in any issue relating to Saudi humor right by nation. And so you give Mr. Trump his his do. He has been the most. You might not like position, but he has spoken about it more than any American president all them inside combined. That's reality. I followed all the American president, but there's take on Saudis. So this is surprising and maybe refreshing me. So I, of course, King Solomon might not have been aware of it because he's, he's not. He's not that especially because he has a problem with his, you know, amnesia and so on. But definitely it is done by people in the Royal palace close to him. He doesn't know. No, you cannot believe. Politicians in gentlemen, especially despotic one. The reality is Mr. Trump, I think also will use this to gain some some some favors with their running family and and or maybe terms of adding NBS kung prince deliver on his promises that he has to do terms of investing in certain projects or delivering something policies in the region. So I really think this is going to continue because it's not about the killing of Jon shell on which is deserving obviously, but it has to do with other policies that the von is cutting out. An I think I'm at this is what I call is grooming his own wings. He wants to be more independent. He's cutting his own vision, and he wants to do things without the Americas, the support on approval. And I think that you will see that coming in the next few weeks with. Maybe changing the oil production and re aligning. His position in that eating visited Iran is watering him in which the US both from the Obama administration mister. I'll just quickly do you have separate intelligence information other than what the Turkish government has released or said in concerning the fate of Mr.. Kashogi my my soda in Turkey and he heard the bitty. He heard the audio, the killing, and so the collaborating videos that put the tellers in in that space of time in the counselor during before Mr. hustle, she entered and after he was killed. So everything that I don't individual who who actually watched that. He's close to that government, but he's a fun to jump of the end somebody I know. So he actually pretty solid. So I'm not have no doubt my additional information separately. I hope they were government soldiers comebacks us. We have information on the team that we have obtained through our own sources in the country for the Palestine. We have more information that we we, we owned no Toby, Harsha. Just to come to you for thirty seconds. What would this issue due to US Saudi relationships vis-a-vis arm sales? Well, as you know, the congress has been tossing around the idea of boycotting or or putting limits on arms sales to Saudi Arabia based on the civilian casualties. Namen I think this could obviously put give more support to that and put a lot of pressure on the White House to actually join. Thanks very much for being with us. Gentlemen, Toby, harsh on Bloomberg opinion editor and Ali, all of med founder and director of the institute for Gulf affairs in Washington. DC. Thanks for listening to the Bloomberg PNL. Podcast, you can subscribe and listen to interviews at apple podcasts soundcloud or whatever podcast platform you prefer. I'm Pimm FOX. I'm on Twitter at Pimm FOX. I'm on Twitter at Lisa Abramowicz one before the podcast. You can always catch us worldwide on Bloomberg radio. This portion of PNL is brought to you by pimco for investors who demand more than the markets deliver all investments contain risk and may lose value consult your investment professional before investing.

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Ep. 66: Electrifying Education with Mario Miller and Javier Lopez

Chicago Stories

27:27 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 66: Electrifying Education with Mario Miller and Javier Lopez

"You're listening to Chicago stories. A podcast from city hall featuring the stories of everyday Chicagoans as told to mayor Rahm Emanuel. This is mayor Rahm Emanuel in Chicago stories. We're joined by Mario Miller who's intellectual Illinois, international brotherhood of electrical workers and teaches at Dunbar high school. Our new trade school and Javier Lopez who's one of his first graduate is now, is it Prentice at the IB w or trainy? He's not training program, and this is our first introduction of a new trades back into the Chicago public high school. So Morrow tummy little, you start at McCormick place, and if I have you went from television. Yes. To electricity. Yes. To now teacher? Yes. So is it fair also to say then to mentor? Absolutely. Speaking of this here, four. Four careers at one lifespan, right. Still working on. Yeah. So tell me what it was like to go from TV to Trish in election to teacher? Well to go from television production wise. Construction was the same. There's a, there's a time line is expectation, and you just have to meet that deadline. So it was easy to kind of fall into the fold of how construction works. The challenge was just actually learning the trade and doing the work because when you sit behind a desk in front of a computer, you don't, you're not picking stuff up and moving stuff around. So it was actually, it was different, but I'm glad you like teacher. Oh, absolutely. Absolutely. So we're story. There was a question of where story. Story. We're the center of where. I was listening to the radio one day on my way to work to O'Hare. And there was a question if you could go back and do anything when teach would you do it and I actually called in got through us it. Yeah, we'll go back and teach our teach, whatever they wanted me to teach it didn't matter. And so when I got off the phone of the line, I just never thought that I would actually be teaching CPS at any time. So it's interesting things happen. What what made you decide to get into? How'd you learn about Dunbar? I'm really proud of this personally. Because I don't know about thirty years ago traits were taken basically out of the school now everybody's clamoring to get him back. How'd you hear about Dunbar and why? Electric versus carpentry. Did you explore any of the other trades and what do you think about for your career will in five words or less? No. Well, you know, to add on to another weird, Chicago Greece story. I decided to go, you know, join Chicago bills. On my sophomore year in, you know, get into my junior year because I saw that there was offering, hey, you wanna get your school time couldn't have, you know, go traveling. All, really see Chicago, why go into a trace and plus girl. So. All motivation comes. That's right. So Vichy wanted you to go into the traits, your girlfriend? Not the traders go to Dunbar period and just come come the Dumbarton at this program. We can spend more time, and that was sure whatever. I don't like high school anyway. And so were you at high school a CVS or CVC now? And so once I got in, you know, it was kinda weird. I, I didn't see people I knew around, you know, for my school because I was the only person from my school, you know who who does does it. And so you know, it took some time getting used to. But then once I started getting into the trays like my first trade the because it's a six week rotation for my first year and has a junior was welding, and I was like, oh, wow, this is this is what trays like, oh, it's fun. Man. I'm having fun Melton metal together, you know, building things. And then I was looking back in my mind on my, oh, man. Let's see what that's about. That's what I really want the, you know, work my way up in did carpentry wasn't really. Fun of carpentry just splinters didn't like them. Then the same problem. That's exactly the same excuse. I give my wife splinters Honey. I would love to do it, but I can't. Did h. back which is a heating, air conditioning, cooling, ventilating, and so you really got. I mean, I don't mean to put words, but you got the salad bar many you went through all the trade. Some exposure to then find some an interest, sir. If this program didn't exist, would you think you've had fought found the traits or this you really need this type of exposure to know that this is whether it's electric or not? Trae a vocation in the trades was an offering. An honesty? Yeah. I think that I would have still went to the trades because as a kid always had an idea of being a like an electrician, but I didn't know what it was called because I was always fascinated with electricity owns always fascinated with. You're the guy trying to burn the house down the switch up and down back back. But you this made it easier? Yes, it made it a lot easier, and it was an amazing still is an amazing experience to this day. So what happens an how dare you become your now? I know not an apprentice, but you become a, he's a training training for people listening. What's the time line for training to apprentice journeyman? What is that locally? So well, if I could, let's go back to Commodore. We're going to you. Well. Bills program as a two year program, which have you had an opportunity to experience in the second year? Electrical shop that is the forty weeks of electricity because this is the decision I've made. I want to be an electrician. And so upon completion of that, we have a registration specifically for the kids that participate in Chicago bills. And after that, they get opportunity by barring that they qualify driver's license, which took forever to get, but got to be. So you get to the worksite hover? Yes. Yes. And he might have to drive a company vehicle means they move stuff around and then so now he's been, you've been training for about three months and months. And so in after six months after starting, he has an opportunity to take the test. So we require that they do not more than a year, but at the six month point, they, they feel like they want to be an apprentice. They they're more than welcome to take the test and the Prentice. If you get the test you're in in the Prentiss is how long five year I'll the apprenticeship this five years, ideally projects while you're doing that? Yes. So the first you go to school for first year, eleven weeks. You go out into the field. Second year, you go for nine weeks back onto the field source. A lot of is hands on the entire time and you just have your classwork. So say how you takes the test. Say he doesn't do so. Well, he still has a little time to take it. Again, people do the law degree like the g. mats and all the other this right now. That's right. We'll think ACT. Public candidate, somebody's raising their hand, people take tests multiple times. So you look into career in it? Yes, sir. You still got the girlfriend? No, no. Let's see the trade, but you lost the girlfriend of the trade. Okay. Well, it's okay. You got it hap-. Yeah. How many fellow students now are in going kind of where you are in the Bill program or the partnership area? Well, if I may answer that they're fourteen kids that came out of the decided they wanted to be electricity. No, that was a huge jump from one of the first year we did it. It was, you know it was trying to get people interested in, you know, six per year. But the second year that's when it really, you know, we got a good bunch. They vote show here, I think. So anybody else in your peers. Yes, they're, they've entered other fields, many carpentry on electrician. The big one. Yeah. Of course, I mean. Big dog on the block. Like that glass building next door. Don't Bari Laurie? Oh, man, this is beautiful. It is beautiful training facility down near McCormick place, Tom, trying to give people it's right there on the edge LeBron's Ville McCormick place so and exciting for your family excited for you. Their belated they're happy there. They know they're happy that I'm making a difference in Chicago, and you know, just I know they wish me, you know, goes to, you know, take the college route, but I, I know smoked in my say, hey, mom, I'm helping make make Chicago look beautiful because we have a beautiful city. If you've ever been out there on the lake by navy, pier and just see, Chicago is beautiful, and I'm making it as beautiful as I can make. She your mom kill. If you were to say today and you watch them, what's going, what do you want to work on? What do you want? Is there something you like, hey, I want to look back and say, that's my deal. I help build that. It'd be honest, I really would like to get my hands on the Brock Obama library. I would love to have a hand in the knows him. No. You know what that is so cool. I want the whole idea for the person's libraries. Obviously. A documents presidency, but right. No one of the things he's working on his to make sure I don't want to speak for him, but I did that for two years of my life. So I'm gonna do it again for about two minutes just to make sure that young men like you have a chance to put your thumbprint look back until your kids. One day I built that and he's got an I put. I have all the confidence we're going to get through the court, so you can exactly do exactly what you're wanna do be cool. Yeah, also also did. I don't know if you heard, but the Paul university, I've done all the solar panels at university. Yeah. So all hooked up at the policy. You know, who's that your first project out on the field panels at depaul? That was my first major project. The my first project was just smaller. Just clean up laborers, work, you know, strange things up. We all did it that's called like in the in the office that's called xeroxing. In the month after that, I went to the Paul university and it's just it's been amazing accomplishment. How did you feel? I mean, why did you? I'm trying to get it. Why do you think it was so awesome just to see, you know, it's kind of weird. I don't. I do this. I like it not because of the recognition as because I won't get the recognition it just to see somebody smile. Hey, I made that guy happy. I made them, you know, he helped him with his work and I don't need any recognition that's makes me happy. You know, that's cool. And he'll be able to go back until stories. I built that. I'd do it all the time. Still Marlin me. I'm a press a little on the issue having. I think the building traits are great. And I know right now we have a situation of, we have unprecedent boom in Chicago. Yes, all the building trades. There's not a single man or woman on the bench. And in fact, if I'm not mistaken, a lot of them are now pulling people out of retirement because they don't have enough folk, and that's exactly why this program is affected because. Some of the stories that you hear or that I had opportunity here being being in the classroom with the kids is that they didn't know what a tradesman was. So it gives me opportunity to tell my story talk about all of the different buildings that I've worked in and worked on actually shared a story when I first got here about McCormick place west well, I was year out of my time as a journeyman and I made GIF transforming for McCormick place west expansion. So whenever you're over in that building and in the wintertime and it's warm, let's because of me see, he'll have stories like you feel that accomplishment. Oh, absolutely. That same sense. Like you're going around that I did that. That's right. That's like rush hospital. I did that. I did that build it all by myself. Let me ask you, you know the, there's a position that the building trades for years didn't let men and women of color, and obviously you've been on your would be GIF if you weren't there. So what's what's the truth and what does it take to make sure that there's a diversity in the traits if the label or tag on the building trades is that they haven't really been open to everybody. Well, and you buy that? I don't because one a lot of this is just like with anything. If people aren't informed, just like the the kids come through bills if they don't know then how do they know where to go. So I help facilitate their interest using was a lack of information. Absolutely. Absolutely. More so than anything else, it's well, especially during my HUD, you learn about it meaning I IB w international brotherhood of electrical work. Well, I know I know some electrons and I tend to investigate everything. I like to call it to radio shows on solicit. That kind of stuff. You mean. But you know, it's, it's one of those things where if and I always shared this with the kids, if you have an interest in something and you have no idea how to get there, then you have to ask. So you just start asking people even just like hobbies. I experience working as a intern. He was talking to some people, some electrons on the job site and that just enhanced his interest in wanting to be an electrician. So a lot of it is more so a lack of information in being informed and the opportunities are there is just getting there to take advantage of it. I will say, you know, taking on this subject is more of the things I heard most frequently. You know when we did the rebuilt the entire red line south side, how many people in the neighborhood said it was great to see men and women principally meant to be honest, who came from southside lived on the south side. Kinda work on the project. You know it was the biggest project on the south side at the time, which is one billion dollar project, rebuilding the line. And I think that's a big statement of, you know, I have this. I always say that kids cannot be with the cannot see, right, absolutely. And if you can see Mario working on something, you can put in your imagination. Right? Right. So I'm gonna ask one favor of you. I want you to go back to Dunbar when you're an apprentice until the kids. I also have a school for you. I don't know if you'd like going into west side. I know how the rivalry here, but Prosser is going to be come to school on the west side. Same thing we're gonna put a trade school Bill program on the on the far west side. So the kids have Prosser like the kids at Dunbar get exposed to the trades get exposed so that when we build the airport, no your teacher here won't go back to the airport, he'll and do McCormick place, but you may want to be when you're done with the Obama library. You may want to be built in terminal to writing news. But I mean, I do want you to go back and talk to, what would you tell them? What do you think you would tell? I know it's early. Yeah, taken even the test yet. Number ready putting down, I have you building terminal to and you haven't taken the test yet, but that's exhilarating. The one thing I would tell them is to believe in yourself because a lot of kids in our community, you know, come me coming from, you know, the south side of Chicago, you know and seen what it is. We don't have a lot of self esteem, you know, and a lot of kids feel that they can't do the things that they see other people do. They can't see they can't picture himself as the mayor. They can't pitcher themselves even as an electrician, a doctor, a lawyer. And so I will just tell them like just believe in yourself, that is the main key and work hard. How do you think we we do as a city? Not just me as mayor for the city impaired hunting. We do get kids to. I mean, I got the, there's this program, bam, and somebody says, well, what does it do as well as amazing. I was in bam, bam to, yes, sir. I said, my biggest thing is it all? Does it help kids believe in themselves? It's the self discovery perk. I mean, how do we do that better is bam it, or is there other things? I think it just starts in the community. You know, it starts just lending a hand and. If you can lend, you know, give you can just get a neighbor to reach out to maybe their neighbor as in, you know, keep the chain going. That'd be amazing. That's what the IB w on. You know, on king drive, the U-Haul is doing. They have events. They have fundraisers, they have, you know, soup kitchens, that's they're doing. They helping out the community around that area, you know, and not just just for that area but so that area can go on and teach, hey, come over here. You know, we have a helping hand. You want to give a helping hand to you. They don't wanna make you feel that you're alone. We're here together as a community Ashikaga wins, you know, thirty years ago forty. They pulled the trades out of CPS. Sure. Kind of in at that time, everybody was arguing that we were trying pushing some kids towards college, kind of like what your mom was saying to you have here and the you didn't want dual-track have only certain kids not thinking about college, but vocation. I thought it left. Kind of a bad taste in people's malls, and we actually diminish the role of trades and we've been paying a price for it as a city ever since I agree with that because I mean thirty years ago, I was one of those teenagers. That was the emphasis was on college college. Where'd you go to high school? Actually went to is being cut you out there because I went to brother rice, so I did. I didn't. They were pushing you to college if everybody. Well, it's more of a family. It was more of a family push and even quite a few of our students that participate in the bills program. There were several of them that wanted to get into trays, but they said out, you know, with this college thing doesn't work out, then I'll come back. You know, they were doing it one kiss. I'm doing this for my mom because she, you know, she wants me to go to college, but he really wanted to be in the trade. So back then when I was a teenager, the emphasis on college and I just never really thought about being new trades, what happened is. Opportunity until I was in working in television and said, you know what? I wanna do something different, but and I, she always should this with the with my students. I want that picked being an electric because I can do it anywhere in the world. And you know, just for those guys to try to help them see the opportunity, just explaining things like that. You know it, it helped him open their minds up to possibilities of being in a trade. How would we get more students at to Dunbar and Prosser? How? What? What do you think we should do? Because I know the for the second year is better than the first year. Oh, absolutely. For this be what it should be. I mean, I think you would agree. We're fighting below our weight class over at Dunbar. Absolutely. So I mean for one, we have to do a better job at marketing it. I mean, you can't have someone market the trades that doesn't know about the trade, so has never been in a trade. So to go out because I talked to people on the streets. Anywhere I have an opportunity and I tell them if it's not for you, maybe it's for someone that you know and just trying to get the word out as much as possible. I mean, I think I'm doing okay, and the students had opportunity to see that we talk about not just a financial gain of being in the trays, but the fact that as long as you have a skill, you should never be hungry, you should never be hungry, so I can. You can always take care of yourself you, there's no doubt about that, but we got. I mean, the one thing is I remember alderman, we'll burn and I work on on this subject and who took a lot. But you remember that that's not convince people will put the trains back in the school and hey school, not every school because we never had the, but then and make this. I mean the first year I was wondering, well, one havi are signed up. I was like, well, the adults wanted this, what happened to the kids, but now it sounds like we're getting some traction here. Well, the kids tell. On their story helps. Right and their kids that have come back up to the school and that have kept in touch. And they always saying thanks because they just had no clue that this opportunity was there for them. So even with like we have done by the central, we got prosecute Wes. We do something far south, let me we. I think we can really harness a much larger market if we would choose something like my whole thing with know new airport, the modernization of the new blue and the red and purple on the CD, the new stuff that's going on in office buildings and apartments, and also in the residential. And that counting other types of investments that are happening at both the universities that shouldn't through thick and thin. They should basically ensure that we have a growth for those with the trades and carpentry electricity and aren't workers operating engineers. That to me is key. And may well, you can get a middle class standard of living and you can put your own kids through college. Absolutely. My how much of your job is teaching and how much and your job is mentoring given what Mara Utah, and you should jump in about the role? Not Mario specifically, you wanna talk about them. I'll sit between you and you can say, whatever you want. So you can't slug you or anything. But I mean, you mentioned about kids believing in themselves and to me view also describe what Mario does is what bam did. So how much of this is teaching and how much of this is also mentoring and helping young men make good choices and guiding them. So what what are you try to? You can teach people. You could almost teach me which I, my wife would really appreciate to me though. I mean hearing you guys almost eighty ninety percent of this is getting heavier and others and to talk to you, and I want you to jump in here but to think about themselves differently and and realized the possibilities that they have if they just focused, they have all the game than they need. So I would say ninety percent of it is mentoring. Yeah, ten percent of it is introducing them to electrically because we can't teach someone how to be an electric in a short period of time like that. To me, there's a speak to them about being mature because. The most important and most important things about being electric is getting home the same way you left home. So and it takes time to learn how to that me. You want to go back home, you don't wanna die at work. So that's that was something that was stated to me when I was an apprentice and I just never forgot it and pushed. It was very diligent about learning my craft that I try to put the same emphasis on the kids with this being exploratory for them, half of the battle is getting them to believe in themselves and being able to demonstrate to them how this would be good for them, especially, you know, you get because you have students that say, I don't like school. I'm tired of school, but here you have opportunity where you do school and you actually work and you make some money, and so you just have to explain it to them in a way that it makes sense to them. Do your is your mom she wanted to go to. What was that kind of conversation with your mom if you with you? Don't mind me asking college for silver aides and do so before entered. You know, Chicago bills and Dunbar from, you know, always told my mother, hey, Ma, you know, I want to go to college. I want to do something in the food of computers. You know, computers. Next thing, you know always had a gift for doing things with IT and you know, but I feel like it wasn't. It wasn't enough. I felt like it was. It was something out there missing that I really wanted to do. And so once I explained to her, hey, Ma, this is what I really want to do at first. She really didn't like it. She was like, well, you sure this is going you. This is what you want to do with the recession hits again. What are you gonna do that? Or what have you going to do if you lose a limb? Because if you lose the very important limb out, you know and I just told her that, well, I have teachers. I have mentors, I have peers. I have good amazing people around me that are pushing me and pushing and pushing the push in my head to be, you know. Safety. Wellness. Timeliness. As you know, Mr Miller saying Marlin Miller, he said, you know, being, you know, growing up being the dope handling your business, you know, and you know, eventually, you know, I start paying rent and now she's like, oh yeah, I like it. Now. And so parents only come in one. So. Are we got the rapid around, you get your own answers. You don't. Alright, cubs, her socks, white socks. Go ahead. He says, almost say, almost say, cubs, you can say, whatever you want thick or thin pizza thin. Did not really doing well here. Sears or Hancock building Sears Sears. Okay. Well, Willis, we'll stay with series. River or lake. Oh, wait a minute. What time of the day. We'll use answer you pick up the river. Okay. Twelve inches sixteen inch softball sixty six. You say that guy that likes pizza brother. Vere. Really want to thank you for being here. Thank you. I think we can make sure that if you get through your Prentice ship, I got a library that's a presidential library that needs building, and so we'll make sure I really wanna. Thank you. Well, no. I mean, you could have done anything as general Forman you're teaching kids and give them a chance. So I really wanna thank you in a Muslim more. Importantly, it took a lot to create the Dunbar program. Oh, yeah. Oh yeah. And it's good that it didn't fall flat on its face. I know that, but I appreciate and you only one gift. You're going to go back and you're an explain to both Dunbar. Another schools would what this opportunity provides sense when you become an apprentice. I just want you to be an ambassador for the program. I will. All right. Thank you. All right, Chicago stories. Mayor Rahm Emanuel. You've been listening to Chicago stories with mayor Rahm Emanuel. You can subscribe and leave a review on apple podcasts and tweets, your guest ideas using hashtag stories. Thanks for listening.

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Cephalopods: They Ink, Therefore We Eat

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33:03 min | 1 year ago

Cephalopods: They Ink, Therefore We Eat

"Today's episode is brought to you by Weston. Westin hotels and resorts have a single goal to help you travel. Well and Western has carried wellness programs to help you eat move and sleep well. Wherever you you travel their new menu features fresh ingredients and flexible options like half portion sizes all western locations now have an on demand fitness gear lending program and their heavenly bed helps you conquer the day by giving you a restful night because when you eat move and sleep well you rise welcome to Westin and welcome to wellness explore it western dot com a member of Marriott Bombay Eh Lo look into favor production of Iheartradio our Radio Stephanie. Yeah I'm Anne and I'm Laurin vocal bomb and today we're talking about squid ink with the kind of an asterix next to it yes cephalopod pot inc in general I suppose squid squid and cuttlefish ink in particular yeah what we generally calls quitting more on that later but also few random random Komori facts sure it's kind of a hodge positive in episode it is it is yeah we'll have to do whole episodes on cuttlefish and squid at a time and date because of so much fun the biology cool cephalopods are my favorite yeah. I feel bad about eating them. I feel worse about octopuses as we were just discussing before we started rolling. I have this long held belief that I think comes from Michael CRICHTON's fear yes that squid are mean uh-huh uh-huh and and that I should feel fine about eating them and that that octopus unrelated to spirit think are great and beautiful and just like smarter than your dog. Yes you should not eat them because I feel bad about it right and cuddle adorable so I don't Wanna eat anyway. I I was telling Lauren that I had a squid based nightmare. Last night. I was on my merry way to get some doughnuts and helicopter and a squid attacked and I know it's Faux Party to tell people voglio James but that one felt so appropriate so indicative of how seriously I take this job absolutely yeah and has seriously so you take donuts so serious so seriously I I ended up starting a donut shop by the way the Internet okay. Oh I remember the name but squid ink pasta. I think it's all blacking pasta. Actually is one of my favorite dishes in Atlanta at Boca Lupo every year for my birthday. Get it. It's it's to the point. where I I always make the reservation? She need a reservation there in general like two months in advance and they are. I think it gives them a chuckle because when I come in there like it's you owe aw yep every year and I tried to make it once and I was like filled with Pumpkin and it was a Halloween themed disc because I'm a huge nerd. It turned out okay yeah. It turned out okay. It didn't produce as much as I thought it was one of those things where I thought I was going to be like enough for two and then it was like barely enough for one. Oh and you were like well sorry. We'll have a couple each okay but I suppose we should get talk question. Yes scripting slash cuttlefish ink. What is it well yeah. What we call quitting is frequently not made from squid but from cuttlefish ink this? Is this was news to me. Yes as I started doing this research but let's back step okay so the the product that is called in America squid ink is a food coloring and flavoring obtained from the defensive insects of squid and other cephalopods often cuttlefish. It contains mostly Melanin that same stuff that pigments our I in skin and hair it can range in color from like a deep bluish black usually from squid to this extremely rich brown usually from fish and tastes a briny and savory every earthy and sometimes a little bit fishy. makes sense. I suppose does I am personally unfamiliar with the flavor differences between Squid and cuttlefish inks but folks folks do have opinions according to Marcella has gone in her book essentials of classic Italian cooking quote to the Italian Palate. The Harsh Pungent Inc is is the least desirable part of the squid as Venetian cooks have shown. It's only mellow velvety warm tasting of the cuttlefish separate that is suitable. Oh for pasta sauce risotto at other black dishes. How Interesting Yeah Wow I love this. It must be true. I I mean I. I don't see why she would lie about it. It would be an interesting con connections to the cuttlefish Straw. More research is needed up intrigue probably but yes so within the class cephalopod all of the animals in the Subgroup Kallio idea that is octopus squid and cuttlefish have sex and produce INC they they haven't when they hatch and not not all dark some deep sea cephalopods produce bioluminescence inc of the coolest thing I love it they do this to confuse infuse or misdirect predators long enough to get away. There's also some suggestion that predators dislike interacting with or eating the ink like a like dolphins will squish the ink out of cuttlefish title fish before eating them. Oh man that's so funny. Dolphins don't know what they're missing. I wonder if I start walking around with glitter and that will be my defense like if I ever feel threatened. They'll just right away. Yeah I mean it's sort of like a smoke bomb. The human glitter bomb yeah equivalent yeah my I've got some inspiration region the the ancient Greek and Latin for cuttlefish by the way was Sepia and that is the tax nominal name for many species of cuttlefish today that the modern Italian word step yet and so yeah. CPI INC was originally cephalopod ink and it's where the description of more modern artificial inks is being sepia toned comes from well. I always thought there was an age in that word. nope wow the brain can do some amazing things cuttlefish squid have sometimes even been called ink fish or pen fish in English rush because of their association with Yeah Yeah that's cool but since we are a food show let's talk about some culinary uses okay. It does have a lot of uses as a flavoring or coloring for noodles or rice. The ended sausage particularly in Spain Italy and Japan Italy has Pasta L. Nero DC PIA black pasta and risotto narrow Spain has rose Negro a black rice and black paige. There's quitting pasta pizzas sauce burgers burgers cookies ice skating sushi fishing ships. It's in the batter so the chips are black also tim for a same thing scooting waffles topped with cow Lamari Eighty to celebrate strangers thing he's quitting tacos. Quitting Calamar tinted prawn crackers could okay breaded with quitting PENCO This is a popular Japanese snack of mashed potatoes mixed with other ingredients flattened out and fried. I'm very angry. I didn't try this when I was in Japan. I know I know in an area where we can get some. I'm not not with the squid ink Tonko but we you know make a recommendation. I don't know how much sway we have. I don't think it's very much they. There's have the one that I'm thinking about. It's from this Japanese restaurant called show you and they're the little patties of mashed potatoes are filled with little bits of cream cheese and then the other deep fried and topped with butter. It's so that's always phenomenal phenomenal okay well. I know we're doing here then. There's yeah cuttlefish ink soup also out of Japan. yeah called E. Kasumi. GTO It's an Okinawan specialty. There's also a black squid. Adobo made in the Philippines. There's also a dish called Tony's into tinder squid in its inc.. It's a it's a popular dish of the Basque people and these inks have some antimicrobial and some tender icing properties so one traditional preparation of CEPHALOPODS has been to cure. We're them in their own ink. some imitation caviar are colored was cephalopod ink extracts from these inks or sometimes used as food coloring. I found a squirting beer. It sounds like it's still very much in the experimental okay but it does exist for a while. A few years back related splitting cocktails were Super Trendy. my favorite that I've read about is a tape on the bloody mary with `Pisco Wood smoked tomato juice fish stock and squid quitting I really want to drink that it's from a now defunct restaurant called Del Campo in DC though though one the concepts that replaced it polka madre also has an exquisite sounding drink menu anyway these cocktails do tend to turn your mouth black which may or may not be detracted accident. The trend yeah. We'll get into that a bit more later but it's all part of those instagrams thing. That's happening kids about the INSTAGRAM. It's likely probably what about nutrition well. You're probably not consuming enough to have much of an effect but squid ink is mostly like proteins and minerals. No fats are carbs to speak of one of those components is go temic acid which is an amino acid that reads a savory to our taste buds and yes is related related to the glutamate in MSG monosodium glutamate yeah they're also smattering of compounds with effects ranging from antioxidant anti inflammatory to antibacterial but again the amount of ink that you would consume and food probably isn't enough to make any kind of difference but yeah it's being investigated to make like medicinal extracts. Some numbers eighty percent of the squid is edible which is a pretty big deal and you can eat it. All kinds of ways baked broiled fried ride stuffed dried cephalopods in general are a big fishing industry at least four point eight million tonnes are every year worldwide and account for around two percent of our global protein consumption while much of those catches occur in the Mediterranean and Southeast Asia for Squid and cuttlefish in particular Spain Pain Morocco India China South Africa Peru and Thailand are some of the biggest suppliers though in some places the the ink has often been discarded carded a waste product like in Malaysia a thing that some people are kind of trying to work on right now. Yes most squid consumed in the US is imported from China so it may be hard to find sustainably caught and processed options for squid in the United States because of the Labor involved sometimes more cost efficient to ship squid to China. I know a lot of people in California have been doing this to be processed and have it shipped back yeah. sustainability is a global problem in the cuttlefish and squid quid industries cuttlefish. Meanwhile are basically an unknown in the United States except in imported processed foods like you can find dried cuttlefish snacks. and cultish is an ingredient in like Rahman for example in some Japanese supermarkets yeah the second largest squid fishery in the US and one of the largest in the world is the Northwest Atlantic and that's up to eight million dollars in squid a year which is six billion pounds of squid the largest in the US the Rhode the islands quit fishing fleet is valued at eighteen million dollars seventeen point five million pounds of squid. The state was awarded a two point nine million dollar grant from the US economic development administration to bring their fishing infrastructure up to date in the words of the daily. Beast Rhode Island had big squid. There's this whole thing and I'm going to shorten it a lot because there's so many politics and it's hilarious but we don't have time. Okay and Twenty Twelve Rhode Island representative. Eh Joseph McNamara said so much of what we hear or read about Rhode Island is negative. I didn't know that was the case but all right we need to start promoting the good and wonderful several things about our state and while squid may make some people squeamish we should be boasting about the fact that Rhode Island is the East Coast capital of squid style preparing. It is being used by chefs across the country. Even Guy Fieri has a recipe for it and then this whole thing was a part of a push to make Kalmari the state appetizer razor of Rhode Island. Okay yes and surprise surprise. This push led to controversy so much controversy appetizer controversy. This is there's wanted. Clam cakes people really wanted clam cakes as the state advertiser squid pro quo who came up in the debate that phrase. Oh my gosh squid pro quo that's beautiful. I know we can't beat that but eventually the bill did pass and Calamari sorry became the official appetizer of Rhode Island so advertiser debate aside all of this is relatively new this squid ink cuttlefish ink for the US only going back to the nineteen seventies prior to that a lot of Americans wouldn't think of squid or fish as food and nineteen eighteen seventy nine the squid sales from New York distributors was a couple of hundred thousand pounds but by the nineteen eighties that number was up to several million pounds that same decade red lobster is buying a million pounds of squid mostly for category like fried. Calamari squid is relatively cheap. it it fluctuates but I've seen live about two fifty a pound two dollars and fifty cents a pound yeah it's not huge squid ink in the US but elsewhere in the world. It's it's it's far more common. I remember when eating call Mari was weird here a few decades ago at least amongst my circle my little small town circle but that is changing thanks in part to and Instagram and you know we love color theory on this podcast some people in the know speculate that while the colored black has been relatively unpopular in cuisine mostly because it meant burt usually that's changing as more and more people are exposed supposed to things like the char on the bottom of pizza charred vegetables burgers and steaks even at something like black sesame are black coconut ash ice cream and integrating grading trendier food here ingredients like charcoal ash and squid ink from executive chef over at the Metropolitan Hotel and Spa Rana Ajoy Bhandari the popularity of charred foods the acceptance of squid ing as more than a novelty ingredient and the rise of activated charcoal as a health food has given a whole new new concept of black food in the culinary industry a part of it seems to be fueled by instagram culture. Pizza Hut's in India recently introduced Black Pan Pizza with a secret ingredient that is not charcoal. That's all they know well. That's all the people that I researched. I hope he canea knows what we had. that black colored polka cracker at Hawaiian that came up in a couple of articles. I read uh-huh South Korea has an entire holiday dedicated to black colored foods black day which began as a counter to Valentine's tines day in the early two thousand single folks eat black bean noodles and dress in all black on this day sounds like a holiday allegedly sales of black coffee. Go up that day as well. Oh my gosh. That's so cute. I know right. According to Bloomberg squatting is leading the black food trend the consensus among chefs seems to be its flavor aesthetic and part of the head to tail movement using everything had had tentacles. Perhaps getting creative when it comes to preventing finding ways to finding ways to incorporate previously on appreciated or unused elements you can extract cephalopod ink from these animals at home or you can ask your seafood counter to do it for you. The thought of that grosses you out or you can buy it in specialty shops yes so I fall out of exposition. Ah-ha but we're going to get squid ink history and I we're going to get to a quick break for word from our sponsor answer them. This episode is brought to you by city. It's hard not to think about going on a vacation Jason. Oh yes getting to actually read books. Eat New food see new places. It all sounds amazing right. Yes yeah we thought so too well with the American Airlines advantage mile up card from city. You can turn your everyday into your next vaca- it's the car that transforms the purchases you make on a daily basis into advantage entity miles that you can use for travel groceries with the advantage mile up card. 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Yes thank you so cephalopods with ink sacs have been around for about three hundred and thirty million years and and have been producing ink that is chemically similar to today's cephalopod ink for at least one hundred sixty million years and researchers know this because they found a fossilized cephalopod with an intact insect and they analyze the ink and also reconstituted some of it and used it to draw a picture of the animal that it was from this was around two two thousand nine never ever say that the British Geological Survey doesn't know how to party. We need to be friends with these folks. I know that is so fun. Really is if you're listening thing you know how to contact us. The history of eating squid ink is difficult to pin down very very difficult. Historians know the ancient Greeks and Romans eight squid little ones perhaps fried whole and covered with breadcrumbs. sounds good to me. more often simply prepared by boiling being a play from that period mentioned stuffed squid and writings of the time suggests that it was quite popular throughout the Mediterranean the I believe dimension of Fried Squid from around four hundred and fifty five to three hundred eighty eight. BC sounds pretty decent. Yeah Aristotle wrote about cuttlefish in his history of animals circa three hundred fifty BC he said in translation when the CPI is frightened and in terror it produces this blackness and muddiness in the water as it were a shield held in front of the body. An Aerostat will himself was described by one of his contemporaries. He is like the cuttlefish who obscures himself in his own ink when he feels himself about to be grasped. That's excellent excellent. I know it's like shade also compliment so good it is. It is a wonderful burn learn. I love it. our old pal plenty of the elder purported that cuttlefish blood is itself inky makes sense. I guess folks in Southeast Asia have also been eating CEPHALOPODS for at least a couple thousand years also for thousands of years squid and cuttlefish ink has been used not only in Colin narrowly but also in medicine and art in coastal areas all around the world and in cosmetics. The first printed cookbook written in Latin around fourteen in sixty five had an entry on squid the title of this book translates to on honest indulgence and good health listen diligence A and and yeah this this entry. I had to mention because it's so cute okay those who call them call Amari would better and more properly call them at tremendous hurry since they have a head in the shape of an inkwell and pour out inc.. I'm a tremendous them like cuttlefish. If furthermore said that that large ones are caught up in pieces and boiled with finely chopped parsley and spices small ones are eaten fried an orange choose. Yeah I heard a lot of references to cooking them with orange juice which sounds so good. Does I know that's a combination. I never would have put together yet interested to try yeah willing to try. I guess Sepia ink made from actual cephalopod ink went in and out of fashion over the centuries but enjoyed a hit a popularity in Europe. In the eighteen eighteen hundreds the name sepia became associated with the color rather than the product around that time which is why media like photographs that definitely like no cephalopods were harmed in the making of our to this day sometimes called Sepia toned and then jumping way ahead to nineteen nineteen seventy-four market research suggested that squid would be a hard sell in the US unappetizing difficult to clean sears sears later professor and an engineer tried to improve the situation by inventing squid skinning and Viscera Ding system despite its excellent food value they argued a North American American market for squid is virtually nonexistent. The appearance of whole squid is unappetizing too many in the marketplace. The average consumer does not know how to clean or repair whole squid for consumption and the machine by the way looked when I saw a picture of it like what could this be innovating machine that makes sense but it was effective active for the time it could process four squids minute produced fifty percent edible meat which was a little less than hand cleaning and separated the insects from frozen squid without out busting them along with being terrifying. It was also huge in really convenient with all of these hurdles. It's really thanks to immigrants coming into the US and acceptance. That hand cleaning was the way to go. Let's quiz start to make its way onto American menus and also the Cornell Cooperative Extension Division. They helped okay yes. They were trying to find something to supplement the catch of folks in the fishing industry. WHO's catch flounder and cod. Were floundering. Sorry I think I did that without even trying to make fun and then I just left it in there. Sometimes you have to have have proof of how terrible you're bringing your brains yeah all without without you. Just all sound. It's through a bunch of other organizations. Asians got on board with this whole thing including some federal ones and the initiative went national the US government was encouraging restaurants to try squid restaurant owners were concerned that American consumers would be hesitant to give it a try so they decide just start small and easy a fried appetizer and they use the Italian name for Squid Cagliari so maybe people you know fry anything and then give it a name. That sounds fancy. They'll probably it was still a rare find in nineteen eighty. When a restaurant in Santa Cruz California launched the First International Culinary Festival yes seven veneers later and the restaurant at six to seven Calamar dishes the night and a squid cleaner in the back for patrons to view the US market went from just about zero bureau sales in the seventies to one hundred twenty seven million pounds in nineteen eighty nine. It's a journey from zero to appetizer hero that was so jaw-dropping The New York Times used it to create an index tracking food trends called the Fried Calamari index yeah the time it takes for a food to go from nothing. Nothing to mainstream is one standard calibration column. Sixteen Standard Maris go mainstream which I don't understand Okay and then in twenty thirteen this American Life made a splash when they posted a segment on imitation call Amari a pig's rectum or bung as it's called similar taste and texture to the real deal and when asked employees with the USDA's food safety and inspection service declared he'd never heard of Imitation Calamari but he did note that boiled pig intestines had similar textured Calamari when boiled. There's no proof that restaurants are passing golf. Pork Rectum has Calamari but who fraud does happen at a disturbingly high rate future episode. Oh sure yeah in two thousand Fourteen Gene Burger kings and Japan released a line of Curro burgers curl meaning black the buns and sauce and cheese her black. The sauce got its color from squid ink. McDonald's Donald came out with their own version soon after yeah McDonalds version was that you kasumi Burger eka meaning squid meaning INC they did keep the usual orange inch cheese though to make a black and orange halloween color Palette yeah they also had splitting Camembert Chicken Burger. Apparently both companies used bamboo charcoal to make the buns black and squid ink for sauces. Yes I was in Japan when I went it was Halloween. A I got a kick out of seeing kind of this silly thing. Americans do celebrate it. Come on in it is yeah. Valvoline water's violence true but yeah as as we mentioned earlier these inks are currently being investigated for use in everything from medicines to cosmetics to like food grade. I'm also fires as natural sources of these pigments and other useful compounds. Yes a lot happening in this world and we would really appreciate hearing from listeners especially like about that black day but also. I was telling Orion I get frustrated sometimes because because when food like this isn't popular in the US it's hard for us to find as much information on it yeah and would love to fix that or you know supplemented where possible yes absolutely if you if you have if you know more lore about cephalopod ink let us now we want to talk to you. I mean honestly if you know something about the settler pods in general like call me. We've got a direct cephalopod the pod we should hold on the opposite to set it up. That would be the best hooligans that okay all right great anyway yeah. That's that's about what we have to say about. Cephalopod ink today. We do have a little bit more for you but first. We've got one more quick break for word from our sponsor. today's episode is brought to you by. Weston and Westin hotels and resorts have a single goal to help you travel. 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Rebecca Sounds Reveille with Lee Paul

Rebecca Sounds Reveille

39:49 min | 2 years ago

Rebecca Sounds Reveille with Lee Paul

"<music> welcome to Rebecca's downs REVEILLE. AM Super Honored Jazz excited today because I am Oh my Gosh so honored have the guests that I do today. He has been in my house my home for many many years in currently following him unto shows that I tend to watch and they are well shows from way back when and and so you happen to be one of those that likes to watch shows that really have the household value in leave things to the imagination will then you are a lot like me because there's some iconic films. There's some iconic shows that well. They're the stable hood of our home and the film in entertainment industry so with me today I have guessed Lee Paul who's been in a tremendous amount of shows. He has fifty three credits to his name. He's been in the film industry entertainment or well over twenty five years he has oh my gosh over thirty commercials rolls over seventy on air. Yes so a seventy five on air shows. Let me give you some of that. Ideas of going back to some shows that may have been in your home and that you you too may have followed shows light wonder woman happy days out lock. Oh yeah <hes> but sue the ones that I'm following. Are things like mannix cannon yes. I like to watch some of those way back when and it's a face you do not WanNa forget but many of you you like to watch movies and do you remember Kenny Rogers the gamblers or how about the steam without any further ado let's bring today my guest Lee Paul Welcome to the show I like. I said I'm so excited jazz because I just had you in my home for any turn ity what seems like and you are a staple yearning gradient two shows you see some U._C.. Some celebrities that become famous you might see him in one show but you are into so many urine ingredient of wet shows are all about and you will see you time and time again and I really love that about what you've done with all of your <hes> your spots your shows. You're like a Centura staple on this is really nice because the middle year out millions garrity really makes things like home in that's what you have done so tell me about how you got started. I know that I want to to share with the audience that you're enforce veteran and you started in film in a little bit different way than some other people have so. Can you share what the audience a little bit about that well. You know I came from New York and from Brooklyn. I'm from New York okay so that the point is the point is that growing up in New York in middle class neighborhood at a low income family. I never dreamt about about doing anything but trying to survive. Get ahead y'all after survive. We all have to struggles and today we the middle class is struggling greatly but I won't oh I wound up going to school to Brooklyn. Tech in Brooklyn. Tech was a special school in New York a public school and you gotTa Take Test in the Schools Ron's high school of Science Erasmus and Brooklyn Tech now Portland take was so advanced at the first year ear at college and I got I got a scholarship to go to Marietta College Marietta Ohio the first year I had already got all the chemistry stuff already in highschool and I was this board to tears because I was always the lab and I found out that the Petroleum Engineering Department actually went out on field trips could get out of the lab and get out of the school in the open and I said well maybe I'll I'll transfer to the petroleum depart and I did that and <hes> it was. It was better now. While I'm in the Petroleum Department <hes> I noticed a young one man I'm sixteen. I graduated at twenty because again as skipped classes while <hes> because of my Brooklyn Tech background I wound up with a lot of free time <music>. I'm actually I took two degrees. One Petroleum Engineering and one radio speech from the room nights are read the higher your point score the more classes they'd let you take. I'm kind of like a hundred ten that slowly slowly into the intellectual morass but the point is that at that time I was a bright young boy and <hes> there were more people on my block in Brooklyn than there were in the whole school so it to me it wasn't a big thing and I was running around and I was so some very attractive women and I was chasing them as a freshman and I wound up chasing this girl into the drama department now I know nothing nothing about drought nothing but I found out that she was always in rehearsals and always doing I could never talk to her. Never get close to her. So I found out she was doing a light tied operated by Manati called the media very strangle very strange play but I went up to the little guy who was the <hes> director and vocal coach of the school and I'm six six and he is five foot three. I was unbelievable. Be and your play cost. I wanted to get close to this girl. You're so he's okay. Okay Okay Okay so he taught me enough vocal <hes> training to do the one lie and believe me at my age. I can't remember yesterday a lot of your folks that are older. Sometimes we have trouble whereas the keys whereas this I remember the line from seventy five hundred years ago and it went like this. I think I can do it still that are there. Don't cry you know that he's happier now than if the now each were a medium the try to reach our debts nothing not the brightest cheerful thing anyway I get in the show and I'm enjoying and I'm joined all the camaraderie and everybody running around in the new backstage all that good stuff and one day I'm one of the performances the girl who I was GONNA be chasing gets in my spotlight trying to pushed her out of the way and as I pushed her out of the way out with the girl and in went show business I love it. 'cause that's how I got start. I love it what a story and so that just took you on this journey that has led to so many opportunities for you and what an incredible journey has been. Do you have any favorite shows that you've done rain or parts of course as a bad guy. Big Guys are bad guys and K bad guys star. I've died in the first five seconds every real in-between the last five seconds of the show in every way possible and one of my goals was trying when I was interviewed <hes> we were doing a a four hour show called condominium in Florida and that's death brings another or I don't know how many stories you WanNa hear but but one of the stories is that my father was a pitch. Man My father gave me pig is he gave me a double Chin and he gave me a gift of gap is what kept me ally now he sold in the nineteen twenties club called the kyla clock. It was the first electrified clock on the market with would hang up on the bank building which is usually the biggest building in towns and would flash the names of the advertisers I would flash the time flesh advertise a newer ten of and my father sold this clock up and down the Florida coast <hes> in the twenties and in nineteen twenty fiber hurricane came through and wiped out all the clocks on all the buildings at all times including Panama City Beach Florida well ironically. I'm in this movie movie called condominium which takes which we filled in Panama City Beach Florida so it's like deja Vu our row and <hes> that brought into due to the fact that I was in show business at reason my father which I have to now tell you how that goes because these stories just connect one another and maybe they're under Jane. I hope that people listening and watching entertain <music> but you mentioned the stink sting was probably the most significant film I did certainly as a seven academy award winning Best Picture. It's in today's money. One of the top ten grocers Grocer's of all time this new the new endgame avengers endgame just made more money at one week it at it made in thirty years but that's okay. It made over a billion dollars in thirty years now. Here's here's the ironic twist to that. The sustain was about a wire room of a way to do the batters in Chicago and that's what took place and in fact like many people that were in the sting meteorologist remembered. I remember saying she played the wonder actually tries to kill Redford. <hes> she said it was the highlight of her career she did lots and lots of the the point is that my father had a tremendous penmanship and so so what happened he was hired to be a writer in one of these wire rooms in Chicago in the thirties and he would write the name of the Horse and the odds and the track on how so here I am again fifty years later doing distinct and the premises about a wire and it was astounding now this ties in one more story and then I'll let you talk. I it's just really interesting. Yes what happens. I wrote this book. You mentioned I wrote a book which pitch and get rich. It's it's called success at the tip of your Tom and you can get it on Amazon. You <hes> you can read a chapter for free and if you WANNA pop for nine dollars as you can read the book but in this book I use the fact that this episode of my Fathers Life in my life were so connect the Renault no news stories to tell about life and living but there are new ways to tell it and that's what this book does it uses show show business stories to tell people. I'll give them idea of how they're approved. They're speaking there the Cabbie February their ability to stand up and speak for themselves. <hes> stand on their own feet says bitch pitch and get rich because everybody bitches seems but few people try to do anything about it this. If you bitch you already yourself to try to pitch better idea and even if your idea fields you'll get involved with life and the riches will be in the involvement with light and sometimes in your pocket book but not necessarily now. I gotTa give you this last time to that story. My father is in is in the wire room and they his name was Leah some guys they are going to Scibelli well. There was a delicatessen around the corner so he it goes down to the Delicatessen when while he's there the places rated so he comes back. Are you still there. I'm here or getting no. I heard a beep so it's rated now. He comes back with the sandwiches and there's a cop the door and he says you work here and my father says oh no no from the Deli around the corner he said well. This place has been rated. Get the hell on here okay he said. Would you like a couple Braunschweig. You're on any leaves he he escaped so that's the tie into show-business my book the sting and now I'll let you ask the question leave. That's pretty chief fascinating to think about how in let me ask you to <hes> in and I don't mean to bring up something that can be very emotional but <hes> did these things in after you had your father's passing or prior well another thing about our family. This may ring true to a lot of families. We were very disjointed. <hes> we weren't very close. I left early on. I told you fifteen six college. We never stayed close in fact the only time another story. I guess the you know what if you WanNa know what you look like when you get older and I'm certainly that now you have to look at your parents. 'CAUSE YOU'RE GONNA look. I don't care how good looking you may be. Your father was not that good looking. I think you'RE GONNA wind up and that's what happened happened to the only time my father ever acknowledged the fact that he wanted to me to be a sports guy and that brings another store. The point is that had six and athletic. I trained for the pentathlon while I was in a young man in New York. The only problem is detected Rajon could run. I could throw the discus and the Javelin but I it couldn't hide jump. I couldn't get my big butts off the ground and so that did not work out but later on when I was doing commercials you mentioned thirty commercials. Yes I did a lot of commercials but here's how my father got back to if I had gone into into the sports and made a name for myself and I'd probably had the attributes to to that if not the dry I could've walked into show business in their own. Soul meant many any sports stars that are spokesman in Showbiz. I did a a commercial for craftsman when they were with sears. Sears now is great trouble and they've lost sears. The world has changed but I did this commercial full commercial makeup the whole thing God paid for the commercial waiting for television. I finally see the Commercial Marshall and I'm not in rural Olsen. The foot will is in it. It turns out they did that just as a test to show Merlin Olsen what to do and how do you gotta be kidding so I didn't get a dime for the for the run of the coverage but when one more store B._J.. In the beer death I don't know if you remember B._J.. Cry as I met him I yes I met her anyway. I did six of those shows and my part was Frenchie but the point is the part was originally written for Andre the giant who who was a big wrestler allow now they have they wrote the sequence with him and each suppose he destroys the seven at the end of the six shows and they bring him in and they say Andrei. We've got this great part for you and we want you to be in it and he says how much does it pay and they tell him he says. Are you kidding me more money in my pocket and he walks out so now they you have the six shows with Andre and they don't go what to do with it so guess what they hired leap off at six six hundred and fifty pounds. I wasn't as big as Andre the giant speaking yes yes so there's that story knowledge you talk because what my favorite shows our favorite are. The ones that that ran and thank God. I'm in a lot of those box. Sets is about twenty bucks sets of chosen. I'm still John and here's the tragedy that if people out there think oh this is on this guy had a great life. I'm going to go into Showbiz. Let me just tell you it ain't easy but today <hes> all those shows that. Lots of people including yourself thank you said they loved and liked <hes> and the people that they were in them. They expected and like earn you. Nothing I'm in these twenty bucks sets and don't get one penny for all the shows that they show in those box sets that I'm in the twenty nine only the specific lead actors all at no. That's a penny the only people that are the people that put it together and the the manufacturers because a lot of that is in public domain. It's really interesting that you say that though because there is a huge assumption in the public is that Oh wow these shows are so running these actors are making millions and millions of dollars from royalties and so on and so forth and then something will come up right there will be some news is article that this celebrity had X._y._Z. happened in. I'll say oh there. There's this assumption there money ran out because of this poor choice that they made or this something and it really had nothing to do with that. Oh you got paid for a job and there's not royalties that you're getting from it and you've got to work. It's it's hard work being an actor or being in the film industry being the entertainment industry. I'm I'm lawn of two two and a half percent of all the actors the three hundred four hundred thousand actors including all the stars that actually qualified for pension and health. I have a small pension but I have my health insurance and combined behind with Medicare. They paid my medical bills which is very very very big in very important. I just recently got a what we call four residual because they never end by the way. Let me clarify this. If you're a series series regular at you do a show that's put into syndication you make millions. We're talking about the vast coterie of supporting people there in these shows that are sold at at the K. Kmart or at Cosco. Whatever those you don't make any money but I'm residual for six months of of shows about six or seven shows rose for seven countries in Europe and my residual was fifteen cents fifteen cents Gross Sutton percents okay then you you're expected to pay taxes on that tooth and that's not yes yes because it's income no? I totally get this and it costs more to mail it out into print. Oh yeah the printing in the check. <hes> I have a couple of checks that were two cents gross one cent net that I never catch let them screw up bookie thirty dollars to print the check. Now this insane screen actors guild just said in Los Angeles they're going to combine all these infinitesimal residuals and and deposit them in the address checking account with no checks. Finally they're going to get smart but they're gonNA make us anymore. Money's going to save the studios and everybody else I would that. It's just you know it's appalling U._C.. Other entities doing this to we you know when I get a check for dollar thinking you've gotta be kidding me. I mean it's just it's unbelievable but here this for fifteen cents. That's your Gross Samson's. You're at this is just a or two cents. I mean come on you. GotTa be kidding me Melissa. Maybe this is taking away. Wait from me for just a second. 'cause I'm just an entity. That's a reflection of the industry I am character idir supporting actor and without supporting actors. We wouldn't have the shows that we have Eh. Everybody can't be a stop say you're a staple urine ingredient in the home. I mean I know your face. You're there. You're my brain. Well glad for that <hes> but I will. I will say that I've already done something that happens to me when my my wife's has said that when I doubt she's going to put on my tune sto. Have you forgotten any items inch because I never remember so I started the story. Go back to something wait. I'M GONNA go back to something. I asked you earlier her in that I just wondered about the how interesting it was that the things that happened on the story with your filming in Florida and this team and how those intertwined with the past experiences of your father in your life how interesting it was that they sort of intermeshed and <hes> in really brought something to your life in I mean I just thought it was really phenomenon. I just wondered if he had still been alive or if it was after he had passed in how how much that really that it was just so <hes> so connected to have that happen and not being close. I will share something to you. How the sympathy and empathy of the industry he has changed so dramatically in the last forty years or so? My real brother had brain damage he he was born cross I today they do it in in in the office. Ten minutes is nothing in Brooklyn you go to a clinic you went into a coma came out five years later on and <hes> and the child might have been charged it it brings to mind the the the Hoffman film that he wants to get it right now anyway. The point is that Oh yes yes yes. I used his persona and his life experiences in in my work that's what actors they observe and they try to remember and they incorporate that I did a role with Jodie foster when she was twelve years old on ironside called bubble bubble toilet mirror and I played this big clumsy oath man child friend of Jodie foster now I was. I got the role because I I became my brother other to do that. Role that's why was so successful. Wow in fact people wrote N._B._C. and said there so happy to see that they use mentally retarded people in the business. You're kidding me. No that's how good the story is N._B._C.. Got The the background that my mother's other Sung had this brain damage and they wrote her a letter saying your your your son lethal is going to be on his show that reflects a mental problems and we want did you to be prepared so you don't get upsell now. That's how sensitive they were at that time. That's very interesting watching them doing today. Please wooden and now here's here's the last story on this store. I'm going to be on this show Jodie foster and the next day I'm going to be at universal soul interviewing for a regular reoccurring role in a new series. Starring George prepared called the hospital. I don't think it ever went okay. The point is my average manager. Agent called the producers and said by the way if you wanna see what kind of an actor you have on your roster for this role watch tonight on ironside. It's a phenomenal performance now. He comes to work at ten o'clock. The next day in my appointment is at one o'clock in the afternoon and on his recording machine is a message from Universal Studios. Studios is what it said it said were canceling. Lee Paul's interview. He's Kinda. Stupid is because of how well you. Ahead delivered that performance you believe in by but you know lead there are a number of actors in the industry who have delivered performances so well with that stigma that they have have done carried with them for for so many years it would take a major role is dramatically different in sometimes even that would not alter the reputation that they had in something so yes it is that in America and now I am talking because not only do I love it. Tell stories especially my but but the point is that there are some maximums the the great I call them. The great unwashed and I don't mean to be the middle. I mean demeaned the middle. Being words are people out this all. This guy was gonna be in that well. Let me share this week. It's very very very very tough and you better you. Better have stumping afoot back. I wrote an article published writer as well. You know about the book but I wrote an article called the circle of concentric surgery. No no the cycle of concentric circles and what about the run around the how you get started and how you don't get started. How are you get a thing but it's the one of the lines in the end did this little article said and by the way be sure to take that that male course in plumbing 'cause you can't beat the double time on weekends and holidays it by the tell the people don't think you can just come here is five million people year come to Hollywood and only four million leaves which will make it but the point you have to have a background? You have to have a craft and that's the <hes> that's why I always try to discourage. If you can discourage anybody from going into this industry they don't belong in it. Does the ones that are gonna get any chance are the ones that can say no matter what you said no rather hide it was still GonNa do they got to have the drive the passion and the forbearance and perseverance perseverance to continue to pursue it because this is something they I mean you just you really have to to keep going. It is like you said it is. It is something to really strive for. I would like to say Tuli that is this is a really good philosophy philosophy to have in any thing that you would like to do because in the world we have so many people in the world and so many positions that are available but not only that if you want something really need to go for in you really need to not give up and not give up easy and when there's hurdles that's what they are. They're hurdles. That doesn't mean that they're they're insurmountable. They're just hurdles and you can get over them. I really am excited about all the things that you've done and I wanna know about the things that you've got going on now. Well one of the reasons I'm talking to you one of the reasons I'm sharing mud my universal philosophy about acting at as you say having the drive to try to get to do what you want. <hes> is the fact I'm trying to come back all the shows that you talk about and all the shows that people can see on Google I._M._D._b.. Internet movie database that I've done are all in the past and so today this. I've been out of the industry for thirty years. I know because you keep seeing you forget but my new wages said well. Tell me about yourself 'cause they. They brought me to sign a nicer. Well the first thirty years after the last thirty years I learned about life and living and that's what makes a good performer so when you ask me what you have in mind I had in mind trying to get a new opportunity share the life experiences that I've gone through coupled with the craft that I've had developed through the years and the old gift of gap and make an and make another impact I can you know <hes> Charles Lawton said agreed. I chose Lawn said it's my job as a performer or is an actor to reveal on screaming the empathy and the sensitivity the carrying the personal involvement with life that a lot of people outside are afraid to do you don't want to open up. They're afraid to let their emotions spare fraud Rod Steiger's said when I go on an interview it's like me going into a room excellently native and say this is who I am do the by it or you don't but I but Charles Lawton said it's My job through my craft to allow people to live vicariously through these things and my book again. I should bring it up. Bitch Pitching Ridge says let's have the drive to do but improve yourself may make yourself the best that you can't. Nobody is born a star unless you're so incredibly attracted that you don't even have to say a word the camera and the audience love most of us have to learn about ourselves about what motivates us what we care about our passions are loves and we have to bring that to our roles but also to whatever we do whatever we do I early on before you'll hauser got started front. He's a big. He's a big prison out here on the west coast instead now but he did. He did all these video graphs for K._C._E._T.. I had a big big camera. A heavy camera an old half inch J._v._C. Tape Recorder and I would go around and talk to people about what they do and I remember how the business card me <hes> and I went through the process of seeing how it was made and the guys caught and everything and I talked to this guy and it was the first time in his life that anybody had asked him what he does. How does it insane seen on and on got so excited about what he did and that's what we need to do? We have to be excited about what we do. Somebody to come and ask us. We have to have the passion and the excite then we you have the hub the skin tougher skin to be able to serve all. I agree a hundred percent. I WanNa thank you so much for being on the show with me today. I really excited about some of the future things that you have going. I definitely absolutely would like our audience to get a copy of your book because I think especially with the direction of what I share with the audience in helping them to achieve their goals helping them move forward in the direction that they would liked go in also sharing that with their friends family coworkers and everybody that they know because I like to see people healthy healthier in happier moving forward and you're doing the same thing and I really I already cited <unk> I again so so honored that you are a guest here and I get to actually talk with you today because you have just been such an icon in my my world and I thank you so much you just have them by the book. I don't care what level of experience what level of success in their life is a colonel in there that will improve your yourself and as a human being in your community spirit and you're willing tastes take risks so I really believe in it was important when I wrote in his thirty exercise at me I was down needed to bring myself badge and we all need to do that. We all we all get down and we all get the press apply inner spirit at Inner Kerry and inner love the ring a spot it's true and where can audience getting content with you and get a copy of your book well they can go to Amazon <hes> <hes> and just google just go to Amazon books and and look up bitch pitching get rich by leap hall the rest the rest of the can find what I did in the past and maybe this little little moment that slice of life will show that what we're trying to do is always trying to improve always trying to stay alive and involved. We don't get all unless you give up on life so true. What words of wisdom is that and I wanNA thank all of you for tuning in today? You can find more about Lee Pollen I n.. B. Is all over the Internet I mean he's everywhere you can find him on social media as well as on <music> our site and you can get across his book on Amazon as well but you'll be able to find out where information please share this with your friends your family your co workers in everybody know. I appreciate you tuning in every week thank you.

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