6 Episode results for "Sean Toronto"
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And Kawhi Leonard looking to continue the magic of the role that bought them to gain one of these Eastern Conference, one of the first quarter posse. I'm goes to the whole. Improve players in the NBA season. Did a great job working the offseason with Rico highs? And I think he is a star has been consistent presence, pull the rafters were out quick cruelly third quarter. The raptors still have the lead and that's kind Larry, he's received a lot of real criticism in the postseason justifiably so but last night he was really good. He and Kawai twenty one of the raptors twenty four in the third quarter to seven point leaks going to the fourth. But then with Kawai on the bench is became the brook, Lopez's show. What happened is that Toronto over health defensively, they were so concerned with keeping the bucks out of the paint that they will all pinched into the space promote pets in order to operate bucks. Four thousand eight nothing. Run to take the lead with choline on the bench. Now later in the fourth Milwaukee's latest three and it's now getting behind the down to five point lead then later, watch ladder, driving, and put Lopez they're on the fence event. Yes. The length of really bothered the raptors back that. Length held them to eight thirty six shooting just twenty two percent when the length was guarding the Rafter just over five minutes to go, Larry showing the like it's at six three of the night, raptors down to back it would be Lowry. Again, it was the only raptor, to make a field. The fourth quarter of the team was over fifteen singlehandedly keeping them in two and a half to go, what the defense and George Middleton. The steel Danny green the low past the done box next possession walk, if they watch all the dark shirts on again back to my point that I made over helping thal didn't need a pinch in that moment, right there. They already had built him there wall Lopez twenty nine points on the night more than he had in the entire series against the south next possession. Colli driving loses knocked away letter over three in the fourth bucks come from behind, and hang on. They can take one one eight one hundred. We need games like this because not every game going to be a blow on every game going to be easy. So think this game definitely made us better sucks like that. But, you know, we, we had a chance, and we gotta learn from making adjustments no excuses. We are out on the floor. Like I said we opened looks that we could've made we start off the game. Well, just in Finnish, too great. It's a shooting. Thirty percent in the paint is not a winning formula, and that is exactly what the raptors did after halftime yesterday. Toronto seven of thirteen in the paint in the first half and you see the numbers falling off significantly in the second. So let's bring this out to the table here for the first time this morning and farnam as we go through all of what we saw last night. What was the single biggest reason that on a night, Janas did not go crazy? The bucks one game one supporting staff. I mean, look, they have the ability to stretch you and one of the things that I noticed in the game is the rappers really trying to take Janas away from getting in the paint. Yeah. So when you're trying to take away the paint that's going to do is open up or shots. They didn't make shots in the first half they made shots in particular in the fourth quarter and late in the third quarter that took them amendment took that game away from the raptors. This was a game. The raptors should have one and they let slip away impressed by well, by the Milwaukee Bucks as a whole in the second half. Look, I've been in this situation where you, you have a long layoff in. Between playoff series and you lose your rhythm. There's nothing you can do in practice to simulate a game. Okay. But in the second half, they found their rhythm they will making shots in defensively. They stepped it up. So to me Milwaukee is the better team much deeper team in this series. And that's why see them winning today. Interesting rest versus rust conundrum in that first half. Maybe they're a little bit rusty. And in the second half, we just showed you the paint numbers there. Maybe Sean Toronto got a little tired. I did get a little tired. And I would say that this, this is going to be a great series. This is going to be a lot of fun to watch because you're talking about two teams that really play great defense. And you saw some of the adjustments that were being, I thought the biggest thing coming out in the second half was Bledsoe, attacking to the paint. Yes, again, we talk about over helping to try to keep them off the paint that has a lot to do with Janas. So it's got to be other guys attacking the paint. And if they can attack the paint. That's where you're going to free up on us a little bit more. Well, if you think it's going to be a great series, I know at least one person who doesn't agree fully done, and that would be one, Stephen. Smith. Here's what he had to say. We'll give you guys a chance to react to this. What shot Toronto possibly have after losing this particular game Kawai gives you another thirty. Plus he finished with thirty one but call Lowry notorious for struggling come playoff time, because of his miniature stature, drops thirty, including about seven or eight three pointers and you still lose we'll walk shot. Twenty five percent from three point range. They struggled miserably in the first half and still won. And they won primarily because of brook Lopez. Not the Greek freak that should spell trouble for you. If you're Toronto Raptors and it certainly does spell trouble. So you just said, you think it's going to be a great series, which I take to mean you think it could be long series there, Stephen saying, it looked him like Toronto had, they're real good shot last night, and didn't get it. They had a real good shot last night. And had they perform better in the fourth quarter. They had a six point lead going into the fourth they lead them George of this game. So while. All those things are true look the Buxton shoot the ball, I said that they didn't shoot the ball. Well in the first half and they had open looks that fourth quarter if somebody besides Kyle Lowry could make a shot the raptors win game one and the margin of error isn't that huge for either one of these two teams I the series goes a minimum of six games. Look, both of these teams have been good defensively all year. And I think that Toronto Kowa linen specially he has to do a better job of passing the basketball coach defensively. He's gonna take a wire lynyrd away, and he was shooting basketball with two and three people on him. He's going to have to be able to get off that basketball and give other guys -tunities to contribute is there any thought that this was just such deflating loss for the raptors because of the way that they were ahead or you think they can bounce bounce back. I think we start over analyzing sometimes and reading too much into it. You know, it's funny during the blazers. Warriors game the other night. Everybody's talking while, you know, hey look, this is blazers team that played a very emotional seven game series. And so now that's that's and it was at altitude, and that's going to cause problems here in game what in this series now we're looking at team that literally had a ball bounce on the rim four times to go into the buzzer and their quick turnaround to get to game one here and we're like, oh my gosh. They lost the sky's falling. I don't buy it. I think the rappers are going to be okay. They're going to. They're just this series starts in game two. It's never in game. What I'm going to disagree with Sean, this guy is falling. Well, because when you when you get a play for the Milwaukee Bucks in the first half like they had, and you will go you winning going into the fourth quarter in. You cannot close basketball game out would collide Leonard and Cal Lowry plan wait any plate, it's going to be tough sledding, because Milwaukee, only gets better from you. Look, if someone had told you before the game Kyle Lowry is going to have the best night of his playoff life. And Jaanus is not going to lead the bucks scoring. You would have signed. That ten out of ten times if you were Toronto to find a way not to win that game. I agree that it's deflecting. Look came to, I think we'll go a long way towards deciding 'cause walkie has been so good and so under appreciated. All your load. I would also say this Milwaukee winning game one at home when they're coming off multiple days rest, not as what they're supposed to do there. That's what we'll say. Well, maybe I'm just trying to talk myself into this becoming series. We'll see it one way or the other. I'm trying to avoid talking about this. The New York Jets. Football world by firing. Mike mcalinden yesterday along with VP of player personnel, Brian, Heimer Dinger and naming head coach Adam gays, who mccaghren just hired to be the interim GM? Here's a jet CEO Christopher Johnson on the timing. It was only through going through this particular off-season deeply that. I understood how this organization was lacking in certain ways, there's no great time to make this decision. But I think that by diving deep in the organization, I had a better idea of what was wrong. And where I wanted to head we're trying to win football games and. I just felt we had a new GM help us do that. Are there's obviously a lot to unpack here before we do. I just want everyone to hear what Adam gaze said, just a few days ago, today is may sixteenth, so take a look as we play this sound bite from Adam gays the head coach. And now this isn't or interim, general manager of the jets, take a look at the date, we'll show you what it was that he said this. Unless I say it's really relevant to me. I don't know who decides that put that stuff out there kind of pisses me off a little bit because we have discussions on everything. And that's that's our job. We have to we have to work through so much. And that's what we gotta do. And you know, that's all we've done. We've been here since we started we just constantly in communication, whether he's coming onto my office or I'm going to his office. That's all we're trying to do is just trying to make sure that we're on the same page all the time. And make sure that trying to put this thing together as well as we can't short period time. By tipping scored home. That was six days ago. He was angry that people were suggesting his relationship with mccaddon wasn't good. Meanwhile, amidst reports yesterday that part of the friction between the two was over the amount of money that they eventually paid Levy on Belen free agency, levian goes onto it and says there's been a bunch of false reports and speculation about me in the past about things, I've said and done. So I'm used to this. I don't jump to conclusions. When I hear or see story that may affect me, even if reports are true that won't stop me from doing what I came here to do. Everyone is a job to do and I'm going to do mine, whether people like me or not. I'm here to win football games. So let's start to pack this with our ESPN NFL analyst Louis Riddick Lewis. There's so much going on here. The timing. The reports of the disagreements over bell and everything else. What in your mind is the biggest concern? Well, the biggest concern is number one ownership said that he had to do a deep dive into this organization to really figure out what was going on. Well, didn't you do a deep, dive and organization at the end of the season? When you decide. Did to fire head coach Todd Bowles and keep Mike mcalinden and have Mike McKenna be part of the new head coats search process. And then, you know in prior months praise Mike for the work that he is doing only to turn around and do another deep dive, and now say, well, I'm in the business of winning football games. So I decided to fire the head coach and keep the I mean fire the GM and keep the head coach wasn't done anything yet who hasn't done anything, as far as being a head coach really in his career. Anyway. So really what this sounds like is just, you know, another case of the jets kind of spinning their wheels in kind of acting like a rudderless ship, and it's unfortunate look when you really get specific about it. What did they what did they what kind of questions were, they ask an atom, what kind of conversations where they haven't about philosophical beliefs, as far as how you select players, how you value players, how you build a football team during the head coach interview process? Because to me, it sounds like they were caught off guard by how different they were philosophically as they went through free agency, obviously with all the stuff surrounding Levy on bell, and then on forward. Adam didn't look very happy when they. When the ask them, those questions about possible discord between him and Mike. I mean he sound pains. And like he was suffering talking about the fact that they had the work through disputes and work through trying to figure out. What was the best way to build his football team? It shouldn't be like that when you're only three or four months into the job. Everything's supposed to be happy right now. You're not even playing a game. You're trying to build the team. Everybody's winning in off season. Everybody's genius in the off season. So this is sounds like quite honestly greenie. This was just messed up right from the get-go, and you have to really take this backwards and put this at the feet of ownership because they seem like they really didn't know how to assess their franchise, and they were fully in the way that they did assess it when they actually got down to the fact of assessing it. So, Chris Johnson is the one who really I would be directing most of my questions towards the s I completely agree with that. That's really well said Louis Riddick. Thank you very much jumping in here with your perspective. We'll check with you again soon. I wanna take it to Dan. Because now Louis can speak actually could speak as. A former player as well, but he speaks sort of from the position of someone who has been in these offices. How about a player if you're a player on that team levian bell gets thrown in the middle of this, and after respond, but I'm thinking of a different player of the most important player. The franchise has had a really long time. And that's the quarterback Sam darnold. What do you think he's thinking, well, initially you go? I just heard my head coach five days ago from that move. This isn't anything you're making a big deal of it. And then the move gets made so automatically go is he liar, is my head coach Aligarh. It's different handling median not. But you have blatantly went out and made lying statements bold statements, and now as Sam darnold, going mid cannot trust them. My head coach is saying in the second thing is this, you narrowed your general manager pool because of the timing of this move because you have to get a guy who's good evaluating players. You have to get a guy who's willing and want to work with Adam gates. You have to get a guy loves Sam darnold. You have to get a guy who loves Leon bell his contract. Love CJ Moseley in his contract wanted to draft Williams. It can't just be. Oh well we I love Sam darnold. But I really don't like Leon Bill, because then that might take a good general manager candidate out of the pool. But as a player, your biggest concern is man. I don't know if I could trust my head coach of what he tells me, I will say this to the data Gates's, putting himself very much behind the eight ball with the dreaded New York media because if you're going to get up there and chastise the people who cover your team, the people who are going to shape, the narrative around your team from public perspective, five days before this change gets made. He didn't say this is untrue. There ways to walk around that thing getting up there, his words. Now excuse me. It's not a word, I would normally use but by saying, I'm pissed that people are saying this, and then five days later, it comes out that they were hundred percent right in the first place, you make yourself look bad. And you put yourself behind the eight ball with the media, which is terrible way to get this thing started. It's funny because I actually wrote it in my notes when the higher was made. You asked me what I thought and I was like actually think that this could work out and whatnot. Your initial reaction was he better handle it. Early early. He'd better handle it. Well, or the media will crush. This is not people's reputations jersey them, and that is what it is at the end of the day, speaking, primarily as a fan of the team. I just want them to win. And that's all that matters to me. But I've said a million times more young quarterbacks in the National Football League ruined than developed, and that's my biggest concern here is how this affects Arnold who hasn't even gone to a second training camp as NFL quarterback, yet, and has gone through all of this teen months in, he's in the NFL is a member of the NFL, sim Darnell, thirteen months. He said now to head coaches to offense coordinators to general managers into cultures. There is not another quarterback in the NFL that has been good over the last decade that has had that much turnover in their first year, and I will say Sam darnold is an unflappable player, but still that's difficult to deal with something that stuck out to Niessen sneaky, big news as we go along here. Adam gates wasted no time in getting to work as the interim Jian making his first prayed, last night, sitting linebacker Darrin lead to the chiefs for twenty. Twenty six round pick, you could hear my tone, I'm frustrated by this. We was a first round selection of mcalinden in twenty sixteen. He was suspended for the final four games last season for violating the league's substance abuse policy, and he further fell out of favor in New York. When McCain's time CJ mostly this off season but I was with the jets last year at the beginning of the season, I did there. Monday night football game to open the season. Darnold for start. And you could tell the during Lee was one of the players that was the heartbeat of that team. So say what you want about everything that went down there. He was a guy that had a better twenty seventeen they did a twenty eighteen but he was still somebody in the locker room that you wanna keep around. And you do wonder about the other players other than Lebanon. Bell, who know Lee, and who have spent time with them how they feel about that. It is further evidence that might be an absolutely terrible job. That is the same drip, the first round pick in two thousand sixteen. They just treated for a sixth round pick his second round pick that year he traded up to take Christian. Hackenberg who when last seen was getting cut from a league that no longer exists yet? So. So he couldn't play quarterback at all. So mechanic, deserve to go, but the timing and the circumstances beyond bizarre. Let's return to something much much better. And that is where the year's second major is now underway at a Long Island. At Bethpage tiger. Woods will often less than ten minutes playing with Brooks KEPCO and Francesco Mori. And let's face it after his win at the masters confidence is high. After ten different people, they'll give you ten different answers on their level of competence. Tiger. Woods heading into this major championship. As for me put me right? At the time, Phil rested and ready. And that's going to be interesting part going forward. How much do I play? And how much I rest. Yes, it's true. 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I'm not really ugly. I want that really care where I go see experience, whoever wants me ever seasonal. Yes. We're all still talking about Zion who when he is drafted number one would be the fourth left handed shooter to number one over on the last forty years, Damon. Johnny guests on any of the other three. David Robinson, David Robinson is correct. Another of Jalen rose would tell you shooting with the wrong hand it's been sin. And the last one is Derrick Coleman. Those are your answers, Ben Simmons 2016 Derrick Coleman nineteen ninety the Admiral nineteen eighty seven all of those left handed shooters on. We would imagine we'll join that group. I say we would imagine because there is still a little bit of business to take care of this NBA lottery results arguably overshadowed the conference finals so far. That's how big a deal Zion has become but yesterday, Brian win Horst was wondering aloud on the jump. What if Zion doesn't come to the NBA woods Zion, be content with taking this clear spot? He's going to go to new. Orleans he can't call redraft. So what do you say? Well, he does have some options. I'm not saying he's going to pick these options, but he has not signed with agent. He's not signed to shoe deal, yet he could threaten to go back to do. I'm not saying that he would go back to, but he could threaten to go back to do. This is not a threat to the league. It's a threat to the pelicans. He house until ten days before the draft withdraw now is that the kind of person Zion is the people that I know, say, no. But I do think seeing that he could potentially throw his weight around is at least the conversation. Well, isn't that fascinate gather around, if I may because I wanna make sure everyone understands this would not be anywhere near unprecedented. This thing has happened in sports, many times players, using whatever leverage they can to get their way out of situations. They don't want to be in the most famous of them. Recently was Eli manning, who didn't want any part of going to San Diego and forced to trade, which took place right after he got drafted his older. Brother Peyton Manning. I will forever believe, even though he's never said it loud chose to go back to college for one more season because the New York Jets had the first pick in the draft. He had the option of going, and he did not want to wind up with the jets work that well for him. John Elway once upon a time threaten to go play baseball, if the Indianapolis then Baltimore Colts drafted him. And it worked he engineered himself trade to Denver. And Kobe Bryant coming directly out of high school made it clear, he only wanted to play for the Lakers, and they got him there. And he wasn't anywhere near the first pick in the draft. So this would be by no means unprecedented. Now you've been around of all of us you've been around. A lot. Do you see any way in the world that he is thinking that way? Absolutely not. And I think one of the things that Wendy mentioned he hasn't signed with an agent yet. He hasn't signed a shoe deal yet that shoe deal looming out there. I mean Sean twenty million dollars, something of that nature. What people don't realize, I think people already associate Zion Williamson, it's family is already having all this money. They don't have the money yet he hasn't made any money yet from any of this. And so he's ready to go into this next chapter of his life. He's ready to head into the NBA. I actually believe that he will be happy wherever he goes. And if it is the pelicans, which it seems absolutely will be. They'll put him in a situation to have the most success possible. He's going to be a mega star, no matter what it may not be the same as being in New York City. But still, he's going to be megastore in the what is the value of Ceylon Williamson? What were the writings yesterday, the lottery was up eighty percent per cent over your that was because of Ceylon. So it doesn't matter what market he's playing. He's going. Get paid. He's going to make money. He is not going back to could he pull a KiKi Vanda way, who in nineteen eighty was drafted by the Dallas Mavericks, at the eleventh overall pick, then refused to play for the expansion team in their first season and a month into the season. They traded him to the Denver Nuggets. Maybe I just don't think that guy, I've been around a lot as well. And he loves the game of basketball, he genuinely loves the game of basketball. He wants to play any wants to get paid he's going to do both those things in New Orleans. I would ask you the question this way, then DJ because from your expertise, having been around the NBA knowing the ins and outs, is it a bad situation in New Orleans? They have some stability at the top now by bringing David Griffin. They have a coach that people respect who knows what's going to wind up happening with Anthony Davis. Is that a good or bad situation? He is drafted into it's been bad in the past, but now with David Griffin. I see the sky's the limit for this organization and I see Zion Williamson going there and having a great impact, not. Only on the city in all innovation, but basketball wise, it's gonna get better for them, and I like his personality, and I don't see them going back to see them going in David Griffin. Putting the right pieces around him and they're going to do a great clear. I don't think anyone in their right minds. Think he's going back to Duke. And that's not what Wendy saying at saying that by leaving that threat open you maintain some leverage to try and work, your way to a different situation. This guy has stacks of money, waiting for him somewhere. He's not going back to college in about what happened. But if he wants to try and create some sort of powerplay to get out of New Orleans, if he wants to, and I have no idea if he wants to that possibility exists. That's all I'm trying to throw into the conversation. I'm going with you because it's really easy to look at an organization and be like, what did that organization? Look like what did the clippers look like before Steve bomber took over versus what now go man? They are well organized a well-structured. This is a team that you want to play for the pelicans have made that turn. Away from who they were to now being an organization that seems to be on the right track. And the other thing I would say to put a cap on this is that his rookie deal doesn't actually matter that much at the end of the day. All right. Let's get back to the fourth quarter collapse. That happened between Toronto and the bugs really the gloves happening on the Toronto side. Of course trying to see if he can get this done in game, one on the room to rappers down by five and right here, rook Lopez doing it all for them. Virk won't pays utilizing his length. Defensively you've got multiple guys at six ten. They closed off the paint. They force Toronto to shoot from the outside besides Lowery. Nobody was able to knock down shots two minutes thirty seconds to go Toronto up by one point and Chris Middleton, stealing it right there with the dunk on the bath break. He didn't make a lot of threes. But I want to show we like that when here's another three but that's a myth by Kawai about able to get that done. Under two minutes to go rappers down by four to why blocked again by Lopez. Lynyrd Ofra three in the fourth quarter and the Ralph Izzo for fifteen. The film goal point in the court players, not named Kyle Lowry. Of course, in that Toronto, losing it one. Oh, eight to one hundred. Let's welcome in NBA analyst Tim Legler to the conversation now and ten the raptors couldn't get it done in the fourth quarter. And frankly, neither did Yana says he just made one bucket in the final period. But how did his presence open it up for Brooke? Lopez. Yeah. Law. Janas Cuco presents quite a challenge for any team getting back in transition, because it's not enough to put bodies in the paint. You've got to put big bodies in the paint because he is so strong he will play right through guards and brook Lopez. You know there are guys that are nice additions. When you tweak your personnel, and then there are perfect fits route. Lopez is a perfect fit for this system. So Janas comes up to floor and you can see right away, the kind of tension that he commands, so you have a guard shading this way. But more importantly, who are these two guys are here. These are the two big for the Toronto Raptors. And marcus. Aw. He's got to worry about Brooke Lopez's. But I if he stays at the three point line, you're gonna have a situation where the what was going to play through traffic, and he is going to be at the rim. So Mark assaults giving just enough shade enough help. We're Janas can't do that. The problem is, you're guarding this guy. And this is seven footer with a high release. So. Saugus out, but this is not an honest contest. Look at all that space Lopez going to get the shot whenever he wants in this series. That's one example in the first half, but really his value later in the game in the fourth quarter. He helped close the deal. Here's another perfect example onto the Cuco comes up. He's fine. The defense if Sergio Baca is too far out on the floor because Lopez is gonna walk into a shot right here then coupe was gonna traffic. He's gonna get to the rim. Because back here you've got three guards. They're not big enough. So a box at the foul line ready to present help. But again, there's Lopez and then one more time. This is not a real contest look at that space, not on a seven footer when he gets going knocks down another one cuts into one. But then the dagger shot this is the biggest one of all once again, Lopez trailing the play take a look at Marcus oil in this situation as soon as Yana started the communist direction with his dribble, Marcus Saul has to be a little bit more aware. He can't help anymore. He's somebody else's prob. You've got to be closer to Lopez. You got help here you got a third defender back here Marcus saw instead he continues to pursue any get sucked into the lane. And as a result, there's no way he can get back to Lopez. And then one more time. This is not an honest contest. That's a wide open shot for a seven footer this problem is going to exist throughout this series and I don't really know what the option is of into play a little bit smaller. But then you're at mercy of Yana size and strength. All right. Great stuff legs. Thank you so much. And the head on get up. Let's get hypothetical. And I mean really crazy? We're talking Sean foreign with all the wheeling and dealing go down in the NBA. That's just ahead. We'll be back in this minute. Welcome to the two thousand nineteen NBA draft lottery. But number one pig. Coast to the New Orleans pelicans. Science to the pelicans, that's a no-brainer, whatever that he needs to do. I'm going to be able to. So it was at night, that began by being all about Zion, and eventually became all about Anthony Davis, one of the NBA's biggest stars who according to the last reports we've heard still maintains he wants to be traded out of New Orleans. And so then were million hypothetical scenarios that were thrown around there yesterday. So I gave you a homework assignment. I said, put together a hypothetical scenario for an AD trade that you could see happening that makes some sense to you, Sean, you go first. Okay. Look again, it's easy to say eighty to New York. It's easy to I eighty comes to LA but for the clippers, yes, the clippers, you trade gallon, are, he's got an expiring contract and trade mantras Herrell, and then you give up the first round picks, which are Philadelphia and Miami. And the next two years. And then you get a d you still have the cat space to get Kawai Leonard. And then Steve bomber gets to do that. And all of a sudden now, you think about eighty Kuweit Leonard. And if, if my numbers are right, they might even still have room to bring in K D. And then you have shea Gildas Alexsandr as your play making point guard the clippers become an Patrick Beverley, here's the thing you like that. And I know that you did a lot of work. Why don't you go ahead? I don't like it because New Orleans didn't get enough players back. Okay. In this situation, they have to get assets where they can move their organization forward, the two first round picks Miami's is going to be in the lottery. Yeah. But knowing David Griffin, he wants guys that can lay. Okay. So this makes my situation even better. So. So that, you know, you did a lot of work pre shape running numbers to let me just say form yesterday was like had had people looking up guys salary that will what will not you took this very seriously. The salary cap has to be put into play there. And in one second said at stinks. Thanks. Buddy, buddy. I can't wait to see what. Here you go. You have New Orleans trading. Anthony Davis in Solomon. He'll right? Okay. David Griffin is wanna get one and get off a Salomon heels contract? And in return, New Orleans, get the number four, pick Lonzo ball, cow coups. And Brandon Ingram. So you both have AD going to LA you haven't gone to the clippers and DJ. Let's focus with here for a moment on the lake of why do you think that package that you just put together is more appealing David Griffin than what Sean put together? Because these young players have established in this league that they can play. Okay. So going over to New Orleans with Zayn Williamson whatever David Griffin can turn this number poor pick into you have a team that can compete in the west probably get the eight seven b round the ninth seed in the west and the poor play on the x factor. All this to me is Lonzo and turn to the UCLA guy here because Lonzo comes in with as much hype, obviously a part of it at least. Manufactured by his father, but as much hype as just about any player we'd seen before Zion a while. Magic Johnson tells him we're gonna put your number up in the rafters someday. And now we're talking about him as part of a trade. And understandably. So how good is he if he gets out from under the circumstances where he is now and get a chance to really run a team with a player legs I on the wing, how good can Lonzo ball? He would be great. He'd be much much better. He needs the ball in his hands. And with LeBron, you're not gonna have the ball in your hands. A whole lot. You also have to be patient with a point guard. There is no position that is more difficult to transition from the college ranks to the professional ranks than the point guard position, especially if you're eighteen nineteen years old because at that age you're going against grown men who have grown man strength and been in the game lot longer and are just as athl- and stronger than you are. It takes time. Look at Dangelo. Russell's time in allay versus Dangelo. Russell's time with the nets very different player. Yeah. So we'll see either way it's. His his deals more realism to play these games yet look. And obviously AT wanting so badly to go to the Lakers. The other factor in this is the Knicks will see where it all winds up. Meanwhile we get to game two of the west tonight, Laura more real than what you guys were talking about Steph curry Bennett, an absolute tear since Katie went down with a strain cap. In fact, he's scored sixty nine points in his last six quarters. Our colleague, Rachel Nichols, sat down with them to talk about the run team on wall. They wait for Katie to return. With our core, obviously without K. We have to play differently and we have to highlight with everybody string sewer and, and do about committee. Nobody weird to say gave us a shot to say. We shouldn't have won the Houston series or the cases. So, again, confidence, and trust in each other to be able to make that adjustment on the fly now. And then we'll do it again when Katie gets back in terms of the team that we wanna be to win a championship. Might not be better without Katie. They are different Golden State us only three isos in game one against Portland. It's fewest and any playoff game under Steve Kerr according to second spectrum and guys yesterday, greening was trying to sell you guys on the fact that maybe the warriors are better without Kevin Durant. Anybody changed their mind about how they felt about that in the meantime, no, okay? I'll say this, because I got a lot of hate from Golden State Warriors fans yesterday saying, I was a Golden State Warriors hater. I'm not a hater. I enjoy the way that they play basketball. They move it a lot. Draymond green running the point guard. Steph curry Klay Thompson running off a screen shooting threes. That's my game three. I love the three. So guys, I light Golden State Warriors. I just feel my personal opinion, is they can't win it all without Kevin Durant, the record straight. But at the end of the day Portland's gotta figure out something defensively, Sean against curry tonight. There's no doubt. And in particular, I mean, look, if you're coming out, saying on ball screens, we're gonna bring looney up immediately, whoever whoever's five we're going to elevate Kanter, whoever's kanter's guarding. That's who we're going to bring up and let see if they've made an adjustment, and I promise you that they had the biggest key. I think to is people talking about Kanter and his lack about lettuces, enable to stop. Maybe Steph curry turning and getting downhill. The key is really just one or two dribbles. If he can force him to take one or two dribbles by showing and staying a Texas green, and she utilizing his link to force him to go east or west versus north south then that allows time for the on ball defensive player to recover and get back in front of Steph, and then you worry about the roll man. But if you're worrying about the roll man with the warriors, I think you're worrying about the wrong person with I'm Terry stats. I'm doing one thing, and one thing, only I'm trapping, every pick and roll that Steph curry is in, in every pinned down Klay. Thompson comes off of. I'm going to double team. And I'm gonna make other guys beat me. And if those role players Igwe dolla Quinn cook coming off the bench. Draymond green. They're gonna make shots to beat me, then I'm gonna lose anyway. Do you think those guys can make shots to beat the Trail Blazers tonight? Yeah, I've seen them do it. Series win this game. I've seen them winning the game. And I see them winning the series. You know, I said yesterday that I thought Portland would win game three at home. But other than that, I don't see any change. But look, when Steve Kerr step to the press conference, it's this is the type of series where we've got a utilize our depth than we want to play eleven guys every game. What that's telling you is he has a lot of confidence in his team's ability to win this series. And he's thinking beyond that and thinking about timely rest for certain guys in the course of this series. You do wonder what Kevin Durant is thinking as he's watching Steph curry and his team have a lot of success without him. But we'll see about all that Golden State, of course. Leading the series one game tonight, nine tonight on ESPN and ESPN two. We have Dame to the Western Conference finals for you from oracle. It's ninety stern six Pacific. Our coverage tips off at eight within BA count on both, of course, streaming live on the ESPN app, so you can watch from anywhere. Greenie back to football and the Browns or holding organized team activities. This. Week while Odell Beckham junior. Was on hand for Tuesday's. Oh, ta Beckham was a no show on Wednesday and that led to questions for Baker Mayfield, and Freddie kitchens about their star white outs absence. Be him. You know, everybody has a routine, you know, stick to what's working and for him, obviously, it's been working for a while. And so you know what he's going to do what he's going to do you got to trust that he's going to be there when it matters. And, you know, we know who is I've never disputed, the fact that it's not important for him to be here, but it's also important for him to be mentally ready to be here. Beckham's gonna be here in the fall and he's going to be a good football player in the fall. Just like he has been we just need incorporate into a team setting now and move forward the Cleveland Browns. And that's what we're gonna become. But are we there yet? No. And whether Odell here or not here, we're not going to be the Browns yet we're going to be the Browns when we lineup timber. Okay. I I'm not one hundred joinder stood exactly what everybody just said. So I'll ask you a can you decipher it and be do you think it's a big deal? That oh Dell. Is there one day not there the net? No, not at all. I've been around plenty of guys that because the rotation because the off-season sometimes you show up. And sometimes you have other things, whether it's family stuff, personal stuff. I'm sure he has a busy schedule. Then important things are this, when Freddie kitchen says, like Odell and I have communicated we've had conversations. I know what his schedule looks like. That's okay. He's also saying we're not playing games. Basically what he says, we're not the Browns right now. We'll be the Browns in the fall. He's going. We're not playing games. Right now, this is not that big of a deal I trust that he is going to be here in the fall. Also, when your quarterback goes like it's great that Baker Mayfield goes, I want to let him be him. I have to let Odell del Baker said they're going to throw in the summertime. Everyone this is situation where you can make a mountain out of a mo- hill. Not that big a deal. He was there one day he's not there. The next day. Now there's. Fourteen OTA's because of new head coach. So you certainly want them there at ton. But if he misses a day here or there for some things he communicates it, there's zero ish, I understand, and agree with you completely in principle that to make a big deal out of this is to make him out of a molehill that said you're talking about fourteen days out of essentially a five or six month period of time, so I can hear people in the audience saying to you, what do you mean? He has a busy schedule. I mean, what is it that has to happen on this day on Wednesday may fifteenth that couldn't have happened on any other day in January, February March April, may or June because they don't have anything scheduled most of the time, because there's so many things that topnotch athletes are pulled into ask the do this, or that there's commitment that they Odell may have had a prior commitment to the giant schedule in comparison to the Browns schedule, we just don't know. It's, it's not a big deal as long as he communicate we agree. It's not a big deal. One way or another coming up the stars were out in Milwaukee last night, and a very unlikely hero merge. Jalen rose. With his take on this at all things NBA coming out.
Unplugged #30 - Megan Gauer, Madeline Kenney and Aaron Barzilai
"I everyone. Welcome to the stats. Unplug podcast live again on twitter today with a special guest Madeline Kenny from the Chicago sun-times. The Sky beat reporter also myself making our and earned Barzilai from route sets Hiran Hi Madeleine how you guys doing. Well can save me very well. It's good to be here. Good to just socialize with of review today. It's been a little while since we've had a livestream so really appreciate having not having come on what is now. I appreciate the excited so I was saying. What have you been up to your in Chicago? Do you live in Chicago? Proper like high-rise or something or you trapped I live yeah I live in Chicago and a studio apartment and then but when all of this stuff is happening I decided to come home my parents in Nebraska like a lot of other millennials. Because I didn't want to be alone in a studio apartment and not able to leave. I feel like I would have got even more circuits here. I've gone but yeah some I'm back in Nebraska right now. Is that wide open spaces. You like suburban Omaha or what kind of what service yeah like a lake but that's near Fremont Nebraska. It's like thirty minutes out of Omaha our Lincoln. So it's been Pretty Nice. You're going to quarantine blake ideal place so and that's where you grew up route. Certainly you've got your bedroom from when you were getting there now. I grew up in weekend but we always came out to the cabin like in the summer. Like this was the summer home and then over like the last year so my parents are starting to like move out your fulltime so banfield projects going on around the house. They figure this is a good time to renovate so like putting Laura's and my dad and I did like tile back slash and stuff so it's been good excellent and is it the middle of nowhere like alarm locker neighbor's house along drive to the grocery store. Now it's kind of like a little late community. I guess you would say I think there's like three hundred or something out here And so yeah and like you know a lot of people out here and a lot of people seem you've known like their kids and now we're all a twenty five so it's Kinda cool to see like you know everyone. Everyone is up to you now. Glad to hear not in the city a lot of friends. I own down crazy crazier than I already like definitely makes how you passing the time. I mean are you. Have you picked up? A new hobby is working hard. Is it kind of obsolete quiet? Because you're not in Chicago now. I feel like my workload has stayed steady. They moved me onto like audience team. Which is like our digital team. That does a lot with like social media and flying wire stories and stuff like that. I'm doing that along with also doing sports. So it's been pretty busy for me from a work standpoint and then from a personal standpoint. I'm trying to pick up some hobbies like been painting like paint by numbers things. It seems like I can never complete bound but I'm really good at starting them. So what are you guys doing anything different? I registered for a marathon like a win two weeks ago so I don't see this but this is like the rock and Roll Ham I. I haven't done it for Sunday Sunday. Which did you Bridgestone Disney one in January. So I think it's really fun. I'm excited so get some trading. I'm GONNA dressed up like a Disney princess. Don't do like the footprints of saying but I'll definitely do like something themes I'm running friends so we'll probably do some kind of like these things together. Let's fun cool. What's the longest you've ever sounds? Mental BELONGS TO RUN. Your life is what then thirteen miles or Probably like their team for one a little bit of walking in that range but yeah I would say that and how about you begging probably somewhere but not since high school so it's GonNa be very nice my wife. I tried exercise a lot too but my wife and I are back in our youth before we had kids. We actually were going to do the the marathon. Dc The Marine Corps Marathon. And so we're on training. We got we got like seventy miles or something. We were running it was it was awesome Alexander pretrial but then it turned out that She got like Shin splints. Or something like seven. You know once we got up to the seventy mile training was kind of like you know it's her during my high probably. GonNa capture eating done but I think she would have been very frustrated. If I did rather even those ideas we definitely pass on that. So yeah no I have the not so fun. Experience of you're learning with the kids. I was seven greater. A third graders. South graders pretty self sufficient but the third grader needs a little support. Let's say he. It's fine because of my house. It seems like the The sixth graders pretty self-sufficient sufficient than the sophomore in high school. Instead of the motivation like just turn it in but luckily schools out in Nebraska Dow so now summer. Oh yeah that's right here in New Jersey where I live. It is like schools. I think the last day of school might be June eighteen or something. It's crazy day. Yeah so cool so yes so thousand a couple of questions I have read just about what's going on in your town like you're able to kind of distant socialized presently it's good weather. Nebraska. Get Out. Yeah now it is. We've had a lot of rain the last few days so rivers definitely really high right now but it exciting and we wanted to have you on. You're talking about your work Because articles you've been writing US particularly interested. Just kind of in your take on where we are as far as wnba scenarios. You know what you think is really going to happen you. I think none of us know which we can talk about. But like how you GONNA play. Yeah I mean like you said none of us really have like a for sure answer to this. We do know that it's going to be play without fans regardless of where they decided to host this season. I think the what makes most sense is to have a hub city or one neutral site where all teams can be housed they can all play be quarantined kind of together I know Las Vegas has been thrown around for the WNBA. Las Vegas is also being thrown around for the NHL. I'm so be really interesting to see like how that might change if another Russian league is going there in an ideal world you would like to see the wnba kind of have this partnership with the NBA in Orlando in have doubleheaders at that cross. Marketing of our joint marketing seems throughout all of this. But I don't know if that's realistic expecially. Because the is looking at going to Disneyworld but wake will. I'm feeling somewhat more confident now than I was a month ago. That will happen. Wnba season. But I think it's interesting that we really haven't heard much about a return. Bland totally echo that. We haven't really heard much but I think even the last day or two. I felt a lot more confident that we're GONNA get a season I think. Today they said that Premier League is coming back in Europe in the end of June and wwl news came out so it seems like there's more positive news that something is coming back. I feel yeah I feel like N W oursel- The WNBA both smaller more Nimble Leagues. That they can kind of have a smoother return to play plan maybe than a league that is as large as the NBA or NHL. So the fact that they're starting to have plans come forward or come to bridge Relation I think that there's a better chance w can cut Russell together. I I always about me. I'm concerned about what's going to happen. But your more of your thoughts on. Why is we know so little about the wnba scenarios relative to the NBA or Other Leagues have you been Effort being as they say to repeal era lansner. Yeah I mean I've been talking to some people about what the plan is. The nothing has been You know different scenarios have been shared like I talked about different scenarios in some light stories. But there's nothing enough to like actually report on right now. It just seems like we're still kind of grassroots level. They're still trying to figure out what's the best situation for the WNBA in how they can continue to go on But I think the reason why we're hearing more about NBA To disneyworld about being espn worldwide exports in stuff. Like that is because of just they have so much more media coverage they have Sean Toronto. You know wash bonds and stuff like that so because they have those insiders already established a little bit more in the know and I feel like also the NBA is in a different standpoint when it comes to media coverage and they act like they have a better understand. The media's job is And I feel like when you talk to some wnba players coaches and stuff There's just like maybe some media training that they haven't had convert other leagues. But I think that will get better the more media coverage they get make sense I think it's Steve. Do you guys agree from like your experiences. Yeah I would agree with that. He gets reflective of what we see in terms of coverage of the W versus other. Leagues Makes Sense that perspective. You know think that's a little surprising. How tight it is it. Just how we haven't really had to me. It seems like there's a look at the end w w L. got a little bit of a kind of national cushioned. Their information came out. That's just our bubble people across ratted Not The world but it seems like there's a little bit of a media. Pr Opportunity just to keep People Ryan keep reminding people that were working on these client. Asthma thinking about it. We're trying to play but yeah and then I think it's also you know there's probably yes maybe media treating It's a local right but when you're not used to having so much Howard probably right. It's just doesn't quite feel like the norm so it'll be interesting when they have a new. Hopefully they will eat to renegotiate. Cpa again until twenty twenty eight more information. Come out ahead at a time when there was now but yeah. I'm actually pretty surprised at how little information there has been coming out. I really love to know more specific. Meaning we all understand these plans And like I said. I'm a little bit more. Pessimists in general You know the one thing which hasn't really been talked about early on especially with the WNBA draft. There was talk about pay. Like there's a great have lies or events And I don't think I'll the only reason the numbers went to bed at probably help the readings the WB draft. I think it's GONNA BE OP. Situation wants the starts right. I think that not only are we know can be This WNBA playing against baseball but will be suddenly playing at the NBA Nhl. Awesome less. But I think there's a real risk of their lives in August things come back. Yeah and that's something that I talked to like. Getting Williams fell in the other players about how they think that this will all look in could help or hurt the WNBA. Jabbie seemed pretty. I mean she was pretty honest and she's like the WNBA has a pretty niche fan base. Where fans that WANNA watch the. You'RE GONNA watch the WNBA but when it comes to sandy me in my personal opinion going to be more difficult. This season is fight. All the momentum they had heading into it because the market is so saturated winning have baseball basketball NBA You know all the different NHL or differently swimming back. Nfl IS GONNA start their training camps in August. There's GonNa be a lot of stuff to pay attention to you in a lot. More to be reported on. I wonder if they can do something. Wnba if they could do something you know part of the Scheduling was Commissioner Cup in the w the NWF ourselves doing just a tournament right now just to kind of you know. Lay some games. Give fans something to watch and I wonder if the Wnba do something like that. Where maybe they're not ready to start in actual full on season But maybe they could do like the commissioner up and that could be like a mini season or something like that Obviously revenues big problem this season after saying that really big. Cva on how Earth can be up to recover from the lack of ticket revenue from sky standpoint. That's forty percent of their annual revenue. So that's kind of concern on how early can get through the year. But I do think commissioner Cathy Engelbert has done a really good job getting sponsorships in establishing those partnerships the corporate partnerships. Help support the league. In time where you know every industries being impacted by this. I definitely agree with that. And going back to what you were saying about. Maybe doing the commission's Or something like that. To start off does agree that the I think there's a huge opportunity for them. Wfl is dealing. They're actually going to be the first league back. The only thing that's on is probably going to be a wider audience. There might have been for something like that in the midst of their seasons. Are I think it's a huge opportunity for women's sports because they're smaller easier to organize something of that nature in the situation and to come jobless fans in that might not aren't tune in and Bradley Audience? Definitely that a couple of things you were saying on that forty percent number that you mentioned that really surprised me that the I guess I was expected to be accepted in line with what the NBA's getting as well. I would have thought that there'd be very little revenue outside of can engage game day. Sales confessions that kind of thing. A surprise when you heard remember I was then when you about how the WNBA is structured like. Merchandise obviously is going to be a big part of that sliver of that high because there isn't a lot of merchandise available nine-oh that comes down to licensing all. There's a lot more. It's way more complicated than just not having sweatshirts in printed in available but I was kind of surprised but I guess not really surprised if that makes any sense When she actually said at night thought about where that came from in how you know sponsorships play apart and stuff I feel like it is kind of on our what I might have expected interesting and then the other sort of finances slash commissioner's cup idea like again. This is all changing every day. Right and some level my opinion rights clearly again very by a week or whatever but I was almost thinking. Because I think there's GonNa be some exports clutter that what would be really interesting. We really basically just had. Essentially an extension of the women's national team to are just play series of essentially all star Games rates. Are there some you know real events you know really work well to take advantage of in particular the NBA schedule your Princeton's? He could play almost if the timing worked out. Which by not you can play during the NBA Finals. You can play on the off nights. As an example. I think otherwise schedules into be way too credit or you could play for the two hours before the Eastern Conference the equivalent of the Eastern Conference and Western Conference some tied in a little bit there but instead of trying to get. You know as much as I'd be excited to see you never never winged sparks sir. You know insert game right now. Everyone's optimistic about their chances at. I think they should be But I just think the to cut through the clutter if there is a number of essentially all star games that could at least keep the momentum me it just feels like at this point. It's not really about what's happening now to me. I think all the decisions about how to have league-best that process twenty twenty one point now. I totally agree with you. And that's kind of the thing about this is that obviously a pandemic never comes at a right time but the WNBA had so much momentum going into the season in it was just kind of disappointing to see how much it's dropped off since where you know. The coverage is not nearly what it would have been if they were in season. Obviously that's how it is with every a league. It just seems like there was just so much ex high expectations for the season and now like we would be lucky to see them have season. I know some players are kind of saying well. They don't think we're GONNA have season like Gionta lavender. So what do you do with your? I was struck by that quote in your article. I guess it was probably a couple of weeks ago. What is your perception from the players? Even her active. How many of them WANNA play it? How many of them are are you know? Fbi Dawson that article. I think it was last week in the player. So she's come out that it sounded like a coin. Seems like an experience to have it. Even if your it's not life threatening for for years I was wondering Gibson's that most of the players WanNa play or you know because maybe the vaults important the Financial incentives not as high for. You know either the NWF Be Relative to the NBA. I mean I think at the end of the status is their livelihood is their job. This is what they love to do and what they WANNA do so. Obviously they want to go back to play. It's just a matter figure out what's the safest way to be able to have season where you know not only are the players coaches in Staffan. Essential League official safe but also their families in friends who they might interact with. You know. Granted they are being quarantined. Away from everybody. I mean that's something consideration to is sell. These fares are going to be quarantined away from their families. And you know during the season you know. Players parents comment games in their siblings. Some Games they're not gonNA be able to have that And so I think that it's it's complicated. Diamonds shields had a really good quote about how she wants to go go back like she can't she knows that there's global pandemic going on but she still feels this void But at the same time during to be more accessible testing but that if sessile assessing shouldn't just be for professional athletes in needs to be for everybody I think that's a big part of it is. There's all these really advanced plans around how they can restart leagues by testing people every day or whatever it is but not. Everyone has access to that testing. How do you justify professional athletes being tested every day? Four can of worms there. Yeah I know like I think it was. I can't remember which baseball player was. But he even put it up on like there needs to be ethical testing a where. We're not getting priority over the common average Joe just because we're Athletes Which I think is like very noble of somebody to say Because obviously not having season is going to impact paycheck and then the other thing that has not all come up on all of these plans for any sport whether it's Europe or here in the US is like what's going to be the bar which when they decide you know what this doesn't work right like it's come back at one player test positive. Quarantine them you know now. Three more habit in quarantine does at what point? Are they really be able to pull the plug? I don't think anyone really kind seems like an will know it when we see kind of situation. I was really impressed with the procedure that NWS ESL. Put out where they were released specific on like what would happen if a player is a cinematic tests. Positive for a player has symptoms. When can they get back to training against lake? Fourteen days after lasted dumb. They will be able to so. I was really impressed with the way that the N. W. itself has gotten ahead in has released their procedures their plan in they seem to be really on top of it and obviously this the way that they put together their permit. It seems like it was done. In the best interests of fans players coaches Edwin Italy. Ten people get following the procedure test. Positive like I wonder if they're going to feel like they just have the whole thing down. It's not ten twenty like whereas at eight depends on the team. If it's is it. One team are is several players on different teams when they when they tested positive pal quickly able to quarantine. I think that there's like a lot of factors and I think it's hard to say It will just depend once things start going and we see whether or not it's threads or a kind of gets contained. Nothing just the end of a cell has been really good about it though. They've out not plan. They've said that even if players choose not to play. Don't feel comfortable playing. They're still going to be paid So I think in general solid plan. That's in the best interest of everyone. It seems to me the things. Just the Halphen oddest got. The goal is the country seems to be opening up the pure happy. I just don't understand why the disease I guess for wearing masks but I still think disease spread pretty rapidly. We all go back to normal. So it's really hard to imagine. I won't say that's why as part of my also plan. I think they should have. I think the two youngest coaches are Wealth Hopkins and James Mates. I think like they usually the older coaches away do whatever they're doing us. They say just how to coach youngest Trainers Fagan trying to Keep everybody say Arrests also read some interesting articles about like a long term impact is going to be unlike lung capacity and saw fried and so if you know God forbid like talented young younger player a sort of loses five percent of their look acidy currently going or -nificant impacter career. I think there's a lot of things we don't know what obviously what just makes this whole situation in sports beyond difficult mountain view. Thought about whether you're currently in personable. I think it depends on the occasion at at up. Talks by editor Sense I think they're most likely they will have media. Their fans are there on the Interaction medium players Salonga players available via phone call after the game or Zuma press conference. I think that's probably will Lido. Especially if it's not in Chicago asked me if I would wanna go their planning. Yeah I would. I would happens. adding Depending on where they have the Games where they're located. Whether in the case how's how has it been Are they improving? What is the procedure? Stay at home order. How long does it goes? I think there's a lot of actors I would take into consideration the facet question so much. I've read much about what the media policies are going to be. I was talking to someone that I know that you know on the men's is low. Whatever they're still kind of I think where he would lead to China understand but it is because again right if you're not gonNA have access them about what's going on so you. You sound a little bit optimistic that something is going to happen in some way shape or form. Yeah I I am pretty optimistic especially after saying what other leagues are doing Like you said I'm a little concerned at the lack of information around some of the scenarios. I think we all know that like different. Subsidies in neutral sites have been talked about. But it'll be interesting to see like how they go about this in win. Information will become more available When Commissioner Cathy Engelbert will be available for you know a phone conference hall or something to Kinda give an update on where the leak is at this time be interesting. Seems like a lot of the interview also gets fascinating for media strategy if a couple Dropped on like a Friday evening or something you might maximize exposure sort of agree to do it on Monday or Tuesday and said but speaking of the League is not covered sky What was your take on. What's your take on the roster violence such as it is? Let's lot the same as last year and I think we saw with the skyward capable of last season. I think if you know they call the Erica Hamby out. Or if she doesn't make best shot or the sky don't lose their halftime lead. You know there's a lot of factors in that last game should've would've could've Situation They could be could have gone semi finals. And then who knows what could have happened. obviously you're living in a world leader trying to say trying to act out what could have happened to the actual reality of what did happen. I think that there was a lot of defensive breakdowns. Obviously that last playoff game the sky that they need to shore up next season and I think they will address and I think they do have this fire in know. It's kind of Cliche to say. But they do have this fire underneath them where they want to redeem themselves from a roster standpoint. I think it was really smart to add a backup. Point Guard in Sydney Colson. I think she's GonNa fit in really well with the sky with the personalities. That team already had accepted. Dole's damage shields. She seems like a natural fit I think Roussy was a really good addition in draft especially looking at who else was left on the board. I think she has the potential to be a really good player especially in the picket role with Vander sleep and I just think that you know you would love to have seen 'em keep assumed do but I think at the end of the day just came down to money. They didn't have the money for her. I mean sties APPs. Space is like eleven thousand or something like that. That's not a lot of money to offer player for caliber. So I think taking a chance on Stevens is smart. I think that weighed see something in her that he thinks he can who out of her to become a strong powerful for. We'll see if that happens. I think that the front court is. The backward is extremely strong in the front court. Has Question marks but with like a veterans. Like Shyam. Corker in Stephanie Tolleson. They can really help. Ruthie and Stevens kind of grow. When thing I saw I think it was. Your article spoke Which one exactly it was but you called out the shields could kind of become that. Mvp style player really up her game. How that would impact the sky. Do you WanNa talk a little bit more about that. Yeah I mean I think right now the roster itself it's a it's a good team it's a well rounded team has established chemistry. It looks very similar as I said. Last season At the end of the day. What's going to change? Is I mean if you think about wave strategy obscene was to retain all players Tinos Gab is going to be another year. Older Dame's GonNa have another season to her belt. So they're putting a lot of expectations. Wayne hates the word expectations. So I'm not gonNA expectations. But they're little putting a lot of hope. Maybe even a little pressure on these younger players really stepped up. Nineteen dollars has really high. Ceiling has a lot of potential. We saw her. Athleticism is no joke. We've all seen what she's capable of. Do especially on a breakway so I think that she has essential to become that. Mvp caliber seat caliber player. It's just a matter of you know issue going to have an even bigger breakout season in year. Three than she didn't your to late. She such a fun player to watch them really excited to see if we get a season or whatever form of season we get how she plays the season where game goes to now. She's got the game to back up the personality the personality to back up the game like she like the full package from like marketing sample. Get say solution. Do you have a sense of how much work they're all able to get in? I guess we sort of saw the Vander Gza workout facility the NBA Horse Situation. But you have you heard about. Who's getting a chance to play? Who's got access to good practice facilities that I can't remember the exact number but I an crosby. The skies trainer gave me a breakdown of who has hoops. Who Does it? I think like maybe half the team had access to a Bass Mahgoub even if it was just in the driveway Alien Courtney they picked that vessel who that target like a few days before they got back from Russia so that was kind of funny but now they're in Washington I WANNA say. I don't know they post videos on instagram. Their workout on the go portion is beautiful greenery and forests. Like it's a nice place to quarantine I do not have I know Khalil. Copper has been challenging teammates directed by six. Stay UP AT CARDIAC STANDPOINT Dawson I think it has access to a basketball hoop so I think like Shyam Parker's been working at home until like there's you know they're just trying to do their best. They can given situation to say in shaping as ready as possible but it will be interesting to see how training camp will be different this season than pastures. Because usually a lot of these players are coming from overseas teams. They're already there is already where each to be more so about team chemistry but this year there's going to be probably a heavier influence Emphasis on you know conditioning. And getting everybody's body in shape so Selena injuries in to make sure everyone's ready the season think we're wrapping up on time here so thank you so much for joining US Madeline. Thanks for joining us. Always Aaron my good to see again mallet and look forward to next time we can meet up in person against it was probably at the All Star game in Vegas last year in Three D. So contract thanks for having me guys. I A great time. We'll talk to you again soon. Thanks a lot bye.
REShow: Guest Host Mike Heller. John Kuhn and Shams Charania. Hour 3 (08-15-19)
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I it's it's it's the worst news you can get slightly aging coming back from a ruptured achilles tendon and seemed to be back a little bit hit and miss in in the late season postseason last year for golden state but making the move down the coast to the l._a. Lakers and joining lebron james and anthony davis on a team that could be fantastic a lot of upside on that and then you find out you know workout apparently monday night in vegas the demarcus cousins suffered a knee injury shaam to rania will join us in about twenty minutes and i believe he may have broken the story at the athletic dot com and it's an a._c._l. A._c._l. injury that will likely cost cousins his entire year and maybe more so we'll get to the details of that with shops girona who will join us at about twenty minutes past the hour. Mike heller guest hosting on the richeisenshow been here all week. We'll be with you again. Tomorrow joined by brian butch today day and tomorrow hey brian butch. Let me ask you about the cousins. We touched on the previous hour but you're a big you played in the n._b._a. Played college basketball at wisconsin a seven footer. We're talking about demarcus cousins second significant injury on the ruptured achilles and now with a tourney seal. That's the story line. What does that say about a thirty year old big trying to make it go of it in the n._b._a. I'll say this first before we kind of get negative and speak the obvious. The positive about this as demarcus cousins game isn't isn't that he's not an explosive big right. He's not the one that needs to play above the rim. A lot of demarcus cousins does is below the rim so injuries like the keeleys and you know with his knee. He's not using his explosive power so he's below the rim. He can still finish uses body use his mass yolene guys in fish. That's a positive just turned twenty nine by the way the negative is that mike at age twenty nine aged thirty will be all your body's going to take longer to recover in. It's is truly never going to be the same. That's the negative. I don't think we're gonna see the demarcus cousins that we're all used to. You're gonna see below the rim player. That's probably going to be a serviceable missile big men with these injuries. It's tough to say that but that's just the reality of of the injuries happening at age twenty nine thirty but like i said there is a positive it wasn't his the game to be that athletic big he can play below the rim very service still play but not what we are accustomed to seeing from the markle dive deeper into the conversation shops toronto will join us at about twenty minutes past the hour keller brian butch with you guest hosting the rich eisen show we welcome in another sometimes guest host on the program that sat in the chair next to me on a on a bunch of dates earlier this year and that's john kuhn was now with the green bay packers and covering that team on their broadcast coverage tonight. They play exhibition game number two in baltimore hi john koon. How are you good how you guys doing we're do. We're doing quite all right. We'll let me ask you about that transition for you. I mean we kind of knew this was common at some way shape or form transitioning from the field as longtime n._f._l. Or to the broadcast side of the industry and it's been done many times but it's your only time to make that transition who've you leaned on how's was that part of your process worked well. I'll be honest when i was playing. I didn't expect to get thirteen years until i was always kind of preparing caring for the next step. What's gonna happen after football and the n._f._l. Does a great job and giving guys <hes> opportunities to go and study during during the off season and one of the years. I took a class called broadcasting boot camp where you go in with the n._f._l. Network c._v._s. all the big guys and and you and you kind gotta do mockup simulations of calling games and being on the radio and taking interviews doing stuff like that so so i took advantage of that and i found it to be very educational educational very fun and i decided to try role as soon as my playing career was done and i had a former team by the name of more culture who who who a statewide famous radio show in wisconsin called the wilty intel show which i lean on him quite heavily for advice on how to jump in how to to interact with guys and how to kind of navigate the seas between being a former player and now <hes> being on the other side and actually ask him the interviews. Do you get like a lunch out of the deal to to give tower that much love i mean do you get some tito's or a free lunch out of the famous comment into that was that pre pre great jobs and poor laying everything so i make sure i give him a plug and and try and see the truck packed good well played by you. I might add there. There are a lot of people john who are going to be paying attention to the packers because it's aaron rodgers first time wanna feel with a new head coach. He's played all of his years in the n._f._l. Under one head coach this is the first time he'll take snaps in a game and it's not mike mccarthy carthy on the sideline for the casual viewer those who don't live in state and haven't watched training camp practices but for the casual viewer. That's going to tune into packers ravens tonight. What will they notice. What might they notice. That's different boise. There's going to be a lot of running and play action. I it's it's going to look different than the last several years. It's gonna look more similar to early. Mike mccarthy and aaron rodgers where there was a lot of personnel groups a a lot of changing of of <hes> of people in and out of the game and formations and looks. You're gonna see a lot of <hes> jet sweep situations where where there's a receiver going emotion and he might get handled through my handle a lot of misdirection a lot of a lot of forty for defenses to try and prepare for not just lining up three receivers by one and letting aaron call the playoffs last garbage that is what's going to look different for the casual observer gem the question. I've i've. I've got to ask it because it's the national story line. It's the relationship between aaron rodgers and matt leflore and how that's developed in what they're doing. You're there you see it every day. Just touch base on it because like i said i've got to ask because it is. It's the national story line that everybody wants to talk about when he talked about the green bay packers yeah and i can tell you these guys really are working well together. I mean let's be honest. It is preseason times or good right now but these guys are in constant communication meetings. They're doing everything that they can within their power to try and ensure that this green bay packer it gets back to winning ways and gets back to a top ten top five offense which it has the firepower to do now. It's not gonna come without l. Bumps and bruises this is like we going to look much different with this offense and it is the first time and really had to change what he <hes> what his approach is going to be in learning offense so there will be stroke period at some point in time which everybody will try and poke and point and and rip and tear and do their best to try and show some sort of fragile nist to this <hes> to this relationship but but honestly i don't see it happening these guys <hes> these guys are committed and they know their careers are joined at the hip right now and aaron's looking big picture at legacy and match trying trying to make a name for himself as a head coach so i mean they really don't have a choice but to really work well. Jonah visit john kuhn who on the packers <hes> it it works for the green bay packers work for them as a player for a number of years now back with them in the broadcast <hes> side of things i have the packers in my group of teams teams john that i think have a chance to go from a non playoff team into a significant playoff and deep playoff run contender. I don't know if that's verify verify have <hes> you know it's the team that i follow most closely for my life but do you buy into that that this team with mike patton's second-year in your defense and aaron rodgers with a new head coach that they could be in that grouping of teams that could make a significant playoff push and run in the playoffs. I definitely think they're at team to keep to keep your eye on especially <hes> nationally because <hes> they have struggled the last two years but this team team is vastly different. They've gone free agency something that historically the green bay packers have not done a lot of sorry for big name free agents <hes> three take on the defensive side went heavily on the defensive side and the draft so they have a lot of new talent on this team the roster. It looks different from top to bottom the coaching staff is different <hes> with the exception of my petting who is actually a good thing being in his second year <hes> being able to and get another years experience for these guys on the defensive side. I do think there's so much unknown in the n._f._l. It's what makes sports so crazy and so much fun. There's no reason not to expect the green bay packers to be vastly different in twenty one thousand nine so i asked this question sean casey yesterday from the cincinnati eddie reds announcement with the m._l._b. Network i asked him a hard knocks went to major league baseball which manager would have been that he played for been part of ben most most entertaining he said jim leyland of the detroit tigers pittsburgh pirates would have been fantastic now you and i've talked about hard knocks and you would prefer that it would never be in the market that you are playing for but if it were which coach would we have found most entertaining that you played for a few were featured on on hard knocks knox boy and man between coach cower mike tomlin <hes> sean payton and mike mccarthy. There are some personalities they're off start yeah but i think the one that would've caught the eye most would was sean payton. A guy has a flair for the camera. He's he's a great salesman. He's really good at the front of the room when he's presenting player so i could only match with each use cameras and dramatization what they really make him out to be is cleaner leaner than gruden because i mean gruden is e h._b._o. H._b._o. Family side of things has a lot. That's one thing if you're gonna come into <hes> an n._f._l. Training camp and stick cameras and a bunch of guys faces especially between the white lines <hes> buyer beware 'cause you're catching stuff that you're not gonna be able to a show to the <hes> to the teams around <hes> as n._f._l. Fans but that's just what you get the n._f._l. Camps they're not for the fan of heart and you're gonna get good stuff jack. Mike put out a poll question that we gotta get your opinion on this because we have different opinions by the way let me add that. The question question is a rich eisen. Show poll question well. Of course i mean okay. Just wanted your your idea but yeah that's fine. Go ahead of the two thousand eighteen championship tip sunday teams which is the least likely to return the chiefs patriots saints rams who that's tough. I mean i would probably probably go with the rams. I think it's going to be a difficult task for them to <hes> to to go back especially after getting to the super bowl we know there's the hangover for the teams that don't win that game and without todd gurley i mean he he. There's a big question mark on him right now. Without todd gurley ah offense looked a lot different. I would have concerns with the rams <hes> just in comparison to other three teams because all four authors teams could definitely make a run but the other three. I think that don't have as big question mark this season. You should have done tell shows us. Y'all some liquor. I'll give maybe some liquor too for that one all raining. He did a lambeau leap in here while you can because you agreed with him. I i mean honestly though when you look when you look at the other teams i mean there's no reason why we should ever bet against the patriots and patrick. Mahomes is now going into his second career. Starting the the saints are still the saints now. The saints are going to have a tough road as well because they pick up to heartbreaking season ending losses back to back now. How do you rebound from there and losing a leader mark ingram on the offensive side. That's going to be tough for that but i mean i see sean as being able to rally around. I still think the biggest question mark out others were teams is todd gurley what his availability will be yeah and i understand that that that makes sense and the super bowl hangover which isn't worked very well for teams over the course of time so john. Hey we always appreciate it. Enjoy your time in baltimore. Thanks for jumping on with us. We'll catch up soon. Thank thank you got it. John kuhn joining us on the rich eisen show i i. I don't like that. You were showboating in here. I know that i know this radio. People can't see it. I can and it was really disconcerting to see all the fist fist-pumping going on and the trying to high five. Nobody else's in the studio with you and it was a bit embarrassed. I will make i will side bet you okay okay and <hes> we'll just we'll cast that in december or rather late january mike cashing in december when the saints don't make the playoffs and the rams are still hunting. I'm all for a side bet. I just again. I do think that part of that is the dog really factor. I i really do if he comes out of plays well then i'll i'll pay my bet nice and early because then they will have the sakala would say there is the coup supported his argument better than you did. The update on the twitter poll question rams thirty six percent of the vote saints thirty percent of the vote the patriots chiefs all of you think they'll get there. They share a seventeen percent each of the vote for the lease like the to return to to that level so the los angeles lakers had terrible news given to them. It's even worse for demarcus cousins. We'll share it shamsher on on you will join us when we come back. 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What can you tell us yeah so demarcus cousins bumped knees with the player during <music> encore workout this week in las vegas is believed to be nothing <hes> multiple people present their saw him bump needs with the players said he walked off fine. <hes> and that's really what the belief was was <hes> but he's gonna end up flying from vegas back to l._a. Today and he has a torn a._c._l. Told and it was a matter of final testing that will now confirm the expected diagnosis that he had in las vegas and just just a devastating blow. He had a torn achilles in two thousand eighteen when him and democracy <hes> <hes> women anthony davis reporting best vessel their careers than the torn tendon able to come back from that right right as the warriors platform was beginning and <hes> <hes> ended up coming back during the finals spacious relatively healthy and has a you know as a summer where he signed with the lakers reunites with john rondo a._d. And then and has this injury in really a you know an innocent off season workout <hes> just a devastating blow for demarcus cousins career for the lakers for everyone involved sounds. Let's let's begin on the demarcus cousins side of the conversation that he just turned twenty nine three days ago six eleven big more of a post player blair. He can't shoot it but what does this mean about his ability your view about his ability to return from the ruptured achilles and now from an a._c._l. Listen he's gonna try to return young enough to where you know. You have six eight months of rehab for this a._c._l. And he's gonna push. He's gonna push your attorneys. You know i've spent a lotta time around demarcus cousins that you know they're they're his return games in los angeles mid-january his my he was so confident that he was gonna come back to honor percents. He's gonna work and his body. I'm told made tremendous strides off seaney lost weight. Do you look to be an excellent shape and so you know it's just devastating his brutal. He's gonna have to really restart his training and entire rehab. Is this a major setback and <hes> he's young enough to where he can still become or sociable a player in this league but i mean at twenty nine is biggest paydays probably behind him right and so you know he's right now. He's gonna be right behind the eight ball and have to push again. You know once more in his career. Champs is a style of play that he plays under the basket not that athletic big help in this situation. Though yeah i think to a degree i think i thought that the killy's with him as well and he proved that you know he came back from his achilles. He wasn't shooting balls well. He wasn't moving defensively as well allow that could also be attributed to ruts right like he comes back has had a torn <hes> quad tendon and missed more time than that to come back so you're already you're playing playing behind the eight ball multiple times and so when you find yourself in that situation we're gonna make you look bad so you know that's why this summer so important. He's gonna have a full off season to really train and and really get back. I mean he's been plenty of lifetime. Ultimate hoops pick up games been playing an innocent five on five three in las vegas and so for him to go go down with the injury. I mean it's brutal. Is something that you don't foresee a freak injury now. He's in after you recalibrate his mind and his body for another. You know eight months contentiously if not longer what does this do to the western conference outlook now as long as we look big picture obviously having demarcus cousins part of the lakers is the big deal now that he's not what does it do for the outlook of that western comforts. It's a significant blow lakers. I think it's been made clear by anthony davis full publicly and privately does not wanna play the five. He doesn't wanna be center <hes> and that's why you bring in demarcus cousins. That's why you bring back or deville mcgee <hes> <hes> near you. They're they're expectation going into. The season was having demarcus cousins. Anthony davis lebron james potentially redondo and danny green play starters orders with kyle kuzma coming off the bench. Potentially that was one idea that i've heard throughout the summer and so now that thrown out the window and you have to really base. You're starting lineup. You're and you're starting five around you. Go mcgee and anthony davis <hes>. Let's go out and signed another five. You know you have a guy like joking. No that's still out there potentially as is a free agent and that's why joking no. I haven't signed. You're waiting potentially if an opportunity like this or one on on in another big market <hes> but there's no doubt they're saying that the five five now and democracy is going to miss the whole season. They're gonna need to find another five. There's no question about it sounds toronto joining us from the athletic. He breaks the news earlier today on the a._c._l. Injury to demarcus cousins <hes> suffered earlier this week new orleans rather las vegas and now returning to los angeles to get <hes> next testing done from lakers. I asked brian <hes> this question earlier today viewer moving to l. a. Which team were you more bullish on lakers or clippers which the season ticket base when you jump into this changes the dynamic in the city of los angeles dramatically yeah i mean you're gonna aft also taking account paul george his status to start the season is also unclear you know wouldn't probably the feed mrs time going into it's just they're just not sure when he's gonna come back and so now you have him to deal with as far as an injury perspective and now damarcus going out potentially for six to eight months with the with the tornado seattle so <hes>. It's just sick sick. Injuries are sick part of the game. It's it's unfortunate and <hes> you know i i would hire on the clippers then i was the lakers before the injury. I think that's the same going you know now that we know that <hes> and so the the depth the clippers have the fact that they bring into pile of a winkler like we still don't know to fit around anthony davis lebron james and his cast of characters the lakers. I think there's a lot of expectation a lot of upside but we don't know for sure. I think calliing p._g. Was more of a sure that given the the roster around them <hes>. There's no doubt this whole damarcus injuries. He's gonna throw major wrench into this one last thought here on it's been a busy morning <hes> in covering story breaking this news on demarcus cousins but but there's been a lot of conversation about players pulling out for playing on the u._s. national team in the world championships it just shows that injuries can be suffered district your workouts or competitive workouts on teams <hes>. There's just no way to fully avoid and be safe. These things happen yeah no question and that's you know that's a part of the reason why a lot of players dropped out of teenagers. They didn't want to suggest themselves to the potential of injury. Listen these guys ah so much threat to injury during an eighty two game regular season through training camp through practices already and so when you put in all these guys also wanna play five on five in the summer mer <hes> playing pick up games in in u._c._l._a. In vegas lay you know like you're putting a lot of stress on your body and so the guys that end up playing these games. The pickup runs in the off season. They also are a threat to injury so it's is the unfortunate part of the game shamsa like i said. I know you're busy. Thanks for jumping in with us on the rich eisen show on short notice <hes> the breaking news earlier today from shops at the athletic dot com on the demarcus cousins injury appreciate the work the job i you thanks for jumping in with us guys. I appreciate you. Thank you chumps girona. The athletic dot com breaking this news on demarcus cousins earlier today l. lakers front office. I mean what an upheaval that they've gone through over the last <hes> certainly certainly year and a half and they've not had success on the court <hes> e- in more than five years been a long time you get lebron. There's injuries. There are other elements that it doesn't work last year but you're probably thinking as a laker season ticket holder or a lakers fan. There's a lot of attention being paid to the clippers but with lebron and anthony davis and demarcus cousins. You've got the core of a team that can absolutely compete and now that takes a significant significant blow. Well you hope more than anything. Last year there was there was hope of having lebron but realistically was they're going to be a push when lebron christmas day right yeah it was good right but then as soon as lebron went down your hope was gone as much as well as as anything now you have that belief okay not only. Are we going to make the playoffs. That's a for sure thing but we might be a little get to that western conference finals. We might have a couple of different things houston. There's questions clippers what's going to happen. They're golden state. What's that we might get to that. Western conference finals we know what we have <hes> but now with that big a big loss to the marcus cousin it becomes how do you move it around. Your bench takes a hit because you've got to move <hes> cal kouzmin to to the four now and so all of that things play a huge factor. <hes> i know shams brought up well. Maybe joke no joke have no isn't the answer. Let's be honest that that's not gonna make a big difference for instance a spot. It's a guy that might be able to help but it's not a guy that's going to move the needle. Those guys are all contracts or joke him. No duty you very very endorsing. I'm kidding <hes> there's also there's also news on the x._f._l. And by the way just as a as on the forefront of this with the x._f._l. They've signed the first significant signings. He's happened in the x._f._l. And that's landry jones the quarterback signing a an x._f._l. Contra that was after a workout with the lions he had to or the lines and so now he is he's signing deal former university of oklahoma stand up pittsburgh. It's brooke sailors. Quarterback will play for one of the excess x._f._l.'s eight teams. He is the first player and first quarterback x._f._l. Except fell commissioner and ceo oliver luck he's an accomplished athlete. This is the quote he's an accomplished athlete with an outstanding college credentials and pro experience his desire to play football. A pit amazes type of individual. We want any x._f._l. So there you go landry. Jones is going to the x._f._l. I don't get these stories. I don't i listen. I i get the appetite for football. I truly we do but our availability to the sports programming of all different sports at different times of the year. I don't know listen. There's going to be a lot of of <hes> of resources that are being put into the x._f._l. I'm not telling you it's not going to make it. I'm telling you the track record is the nobody has a just haven't made it and we'll see a <hes>. I'm not gonna sell out on it now and again the x._f._l. Will have its market share in its markets. The question is can you carrie non markets. What do you do from gate. What do you do from ticket sales when you're in your eight x._f._l. Cities that's one thing but then what do you do from the national television type audience when you're region isn't represented and your state isn't represented. Are you spending time watching it in a non football time of the year. We'll we'll see what they get some news coverage and the breaking news there is landry. Jones is their the first significant signing quarterback signing into the x._f._l. That happens just a little bit ago so we've put that out. There are twitter poll question continues continues to roll through. If you want to jump in on that you can vote at rich eisen show the teams <hes> that were in championship sunday a year ago and their ability to repeat <hes> to get to that level and if you wanted to take it a step further on that conversation of the twelve playoff teams that were there a year ago which is the one that you don't think returns the playoffs and there's a lot of questions who that might be to me. I think you brought up earlier talking about the indianapolis colts because the andrew luck situation is they're that's they're driven by andrew luck then if he's not there and can't play and we'll find out as we roll forward what the significance of that injury is but if there is significance to that injuring it costs them regular season starts many of them then they're dead in the water. I don't think most as we've you most of the n._f._l. Playoff teams if they're without their quarterback they're in trouble. That's why today but but that's why it's so important and that's why you know you look at what jared goff can do. I go back to that but again. There's that side of it and and what is is he able to do is able to continue it. <hes> the the you bring up the the bears mitchell trubisky is is he going to be able to continue or is that a team that was in the playoffs that are mike gonna miss the playoffs this year and the quarterback. That's where it starts and then you've got to build around it and that's why you look at the dallas cowboys right now. That's why the conversation is out. There you know dak prescott is is is is that the guy you pay his or is it. You know ezekiel elliott. Who do you pay then. You've gotta mario cooper so that's why those questions continue to arise because we all know that's where it starts yeah so that that story line gets written <hes> to today and the n._f._l.'s. We get ready for games tonight. There are five n._f._l. L. games that will be played tonight. Philadelphia a- jacksonville. I thought you might see nick foles against his former mates but he won't be playing the knight green bay baltimore. It will mark the debut you of aaron rodgers under head coach matt leflore. We just talked to john kuhn about that. I don't know that you'll see much if you're deeper into how offenses lineup up and and play calls and things of that nature. Maybe you'll see a little bit. More under center from aaron. Rodgers a little bit more emphasis put on the running game. Maybe people are going to overreact a if you're again into the weeds about how many times he might check out a place in the line of scrimmage but you don't do a ton of that in the exhibition season cincinnati at washington the new york jets at atlanta and then this one which i think carries the greatest level of interest while the network picked it up oakland oakland at arizona tonight cuyler murray making his <hes> his n._f._l. Progress and you'll see them at length tonight. You would think against the oakland raiders who are featured on hard knocks. You know the thing about kylie murray. You talked about it earlier. One full season to work from it oklahoma. Oh mama because the prior year i think he threw twenty. One total passes at oklahoma one full season heisman trophy winning season and right from there into the n._f._l. So tonight you get your first chance to take a look cuyler murray and how his game his game not the arizona cardinals scheme but how cuyler murray's game translates to the national football league so we'll get to see that tonight. I think that's going to be of the things you can pay attention to tonight's going to be the one you can see aaron rodgers. You're not gonna you're not going to be able to tell other than him. Surviving what is an exhibition game and everybody worries asia about injuries but you're not gonna be able to see the intricacies of what matt leflore and the green bay packers offense with aaron rodgers will look like because most of us don't understand understand intricacies in the n._f._l. Because we're not privy to it you'll see kyle. Marie athleticism translates you can see how is size looks against a full-sized n._f._l. Opposition you get you make some conclusions early on tested conclusions means of what you're going to see from kayla. Marie and i think that's the most intriguing element to watch tonight. It's it is it is the most intriguing thing but you also have to remember that. This is against vanilla. Defense is again offensively. They're not gonna show a lot. Well guess what defensively they're probably not going to a lot a whole either so it's going to give you an exciting an excitement to it. It's it's going to give you a reason to watch which i think. We're all looking for that reason to tune into the n._f._l. Again it gives you that. I think you've got to pump the brakes just a little bit and see what a real sample size is going to be in as soon as week one starts again. He only played in fourteen games last year. That's really his big. You know the year before that he threw twenty one passes so you've got to have a release. I've got to have a bigger sample size. Everything you've seen has been fantastic. Absolutely can't agree more with that. But what do you do with a bigger sample applesauce when teams have seen more of you as well. I mean you can look at it. When you talk about baseball the more teams the more times teams. He's a pitcher you you have have. A worse result a lot of the same thing here what let's see what defenses do increase with colin murray. I still think he's as a heck of an athlete. He's fun to watch and that's why you entertain. I think you'll have a lot of success but there's always that but what does he do when the sample size is bigger also before we go to break also wanted to. We haven't done anything talking about major league baseball today. Everybody's sitting on forty games. You played about a one hundred twenty. Two games leaves you forty or so games remaining remaining in the regular season to determine playoff spots lotta people got fired up about what the mets are doing and rightfully so but now the mets have hit a bit of a skid. They've lost three in a row prior to that. They had won seven in a row so the mets are three games out of the second wildcard spot brought in the national league right now. It's the nationals and the cubs as wildcard teams in the national league followed by the brewers phillies and mets the brewers game and a half back of the second spot philadelphia two games back the mets three games back arizona three and a half san francisco four and a half that race continues news and i i think it's worth of paying attention to to see what the phillies mets and diamondbacks on the outskirts of being being wildcard relevant. They are but on the outskirts to see how that plays as it rolls forward. We'll take our final break. Come back and finish things up alongside brian butch. I'm mike heller. You're listening to the rich eisen show. Hey listeners just wanted to take a minute to thank all of my great sponsors. All of you great listeners for supporting this podcast. I certainly couldn't do this. Show without either of you. I wanted to remind you that you can support my sponsored by going to my show page at podcast one dot com clicking on the support this is podcast button and there you'll see all of my wonderful sponsors and help make this show possible so thank you for downloading subscribing and of course supporting now back to the the show stay tuned for sixty seconds of eight news headlines right after this podcast little update going on the b._m._w. At medina outside of chicago in the fedex cup playoffs tiger woods didn't have to didn't play last week in and played much today. He is to under through seven holes. He birdied one. I think he birdied four on a long bomb putt so he is to under through seven <hes> which is there's a question mark about what tiger woods would bring to the table seven holes in and one or two holes goals can certainly <hes> wreck around jim furic is the leader at six under through seventeen and we wondered about the impact on bryce into into shambo on all of the conversation is slow play. He is remember. The field is only sixty nine players deep. <hes> the shambo is tied. I for fifty second. He is even through fourteen. What's three over par through the turn and by the way his playing partner in the slow played discussion not not as playing partner today but the the other element brooks caca who was involved in last week's slow play conversation kept is also even par it through twelve holes so i wondered as to the impact on bryce into shambo with all of the talk and steve sand the golf channel joined us earlier in the program program on the rich eisen show today and he said how could you not be affected. It's been a tough week and to shambo is bigger that out. If they're getting three over par on the first nine nine he's gotten all those three shots back and he's sitting at even par <hes> through his midway a little bit more than midway through his round today and i think that's the that's the thing when you look at it. Okay the b._j. Has to change rules and i agree with that but i think the peers have a bigger effect here no different than than you at work or anything we're when your peers are the ones that very much care and i think that has a bigger say and that's that's. I think how you can change things you know. Quicker quicker is when your peers say something about you care you do. That's why players care about analysts because the typically the analysts are former players and don't care about what what the writer's they'll get after writers and they don't like what the writers say but it doesn't impact them deeply or as deeply than when their current peers or or former peers your now analysts in the game what they have to say about them bothers them in the golf world when johnny miller would be critical of the player that bothered them more than if they non-playing a broadcaster writer analysts would be talking about their game and they lived and they get that and that that's why this i think that the the one way everyone's talking about the rules but we don't know how to do it. You're there him and han on what the right way would be and you know the clock doc. Does anybody shorter longer. Do you need to get rid of the you know the the the books and just go off a feeling all those conversations and there's no quick answers or solutions to that the one way there is a quick answer and a quick solution is have your peers talk about and bricks kept bringing it to the forefront here. I think has made players play a little bit faster more the navy. I think it's made a big deal where in its now. Everybody's aware that's out in the open now. Let's see how they all react all right so and just a reminder that a little bit earlier in this hour around tirana a senior lead n._b._a. Insider and writer for the athletic and stadium he joins us the breaking news that he broke earlier today on demarcus demarcus cousins it's torn a._c._l. He's coming back from las vegas to los angeles to get a final thought on this but that is the report multiple sources. Sean toronto joined us earlier. He broke the news on this demarcus. Cousins is going to be out with that a._c._l. That comes comes off. A ruptured achilles suffered a couple years ago. Go so twenty nine years old there is time but those are two significant. <hes> medical issues that he's going to have to work his way back from brown. You brought up roller sam because he's a a less <hes> perimeter oriented big that maybe this allows a better opportunity and i think more than anything heads heads because he's a i don't wanna say less less athletic but he doesn't rely on his athletic ability to score the basketball. He's gonna use those wide shoulders those big hips ups and be able to score the basketball over defenders because his wider. They're not overweight but wider big in the shoulders big in the hips. You can go and get get your angles and score so he still could be very serviceable. The thing is he's loosened that prime time when you're twenty six twenty seven hundred twenty nine that's your prime. That's when you're the best ball play you could been this. This was the year in joining lebron and anthony davis this was the year he had had come back and had spurts of really high level play for golden state a year ago but but this was the off season to put the injury stop behind this would be the focus on getting any even greater shape and working on your game because you know the first year when you're recovering you're working to recover and this was his year to get past that and then work on game and now it's lost to them. Yeah you recover your recovery recover. You start start to get a little bit of a field that he had the quad tear. Was you know that's a step back and you 'cause it takes a while to get that feedback especially when you're talking about an achilles and especially when you're talking about a knee injury those all take time and that time has now been robbed because be reset yet again for yet another injury yeah so cousins out and and <hes> shared that information in that news with the breaker of the story shops tirana joined us earlier n._f._l. Games going on tonight and again a a just go back to the conversation that you watch your markets team. Otherwise the game to pay attention to tonight is cuyler murray and arizona own at home against hard knocks oakland raiders <hes>. It's a seven o'clock central time eight o'clock eastern time game tonight and i'm interested to watch cuyler murray. I you get to see him for a full year. I'm a heisman voter of voted him on the heisman trophy but it's different playing college. Oh here's another captain it just a watch him play in the n._f._l. N._f._l. defense to see how the athleticism at his position and his size translates to the national national football league again without game plans without cliff kingsbury full disposal off f offensive weaponry and ideas at play to watch kylo murray just go tonight. I think will be fun to see how it translates. I can't wait it again. Small sample size now. We're gonna get start to see it again. It's you'll really felt. <hes> defenses not just a precinct but at least you're getting a glimpse of it by the way dave pasch who calls the arizona cardinals game on their broadcast network workday past will be a guest of ours tomorrow and he'll be front center watching murray go tonight has been throughout their training camp and their exhibition season zain but tonight. We'll get a chance to see tomorrow will talk today pass about that my thanks to joel and vince for their work back in california for brian butch i'm. I'm mike keller and saying thank you. We'll talk to you tomorrow right here on the rich eisen show hey jordan here. I know a lot of you. Create your own podcast and a lot of you already have one like like me. I obviously love what i do. It's taken a lot of hard work to get to this point of success. You shouldn't have to pay fees platform hosting distribution analytics the fees to create a podcast. You need to be able to focus on producing the best show possible now podcast one. That's a network i'm on. They have a launch pad digital media or launchpad had d._a._m. For short so it's free includes unlimited hosting full control of distribution you have access to a full dashboard analytics again totally free you own everything by the away your content you on your subscribers tricky steph there and to get your own show page on launch pad d._m. Dot com for people to listen to and subscribe your show. It's the only hosting stink platform brought to you. 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Both teams are now five and two so neither there's really in national championship contention but for richt this is still the most important game he's ever coached. It's chillier than usual today. In jacksonville the city. That's hosted pretty much every florida georgia game since the nineteen thirties jacksonville is supposed to be a neutral game site but it doesn't feel feel that way to richt it's in florida for crying out loud and a game called. The gator bowl is played here. How could it be neutral. Rick thinks as he looks up at a sea of orange blue gator fans. The gators brought the bulldogs to heal and five of their last six matchups. It's given florida a huge. I mental edge and made the buttoned up georgia coach desperate enough to do something crazy at least for him something with swagger. Maybe a little arrogance something to get some fire in his squad's belly. Even if it pisses off some football purists something in other words very unmarked rick like in seven seasons at georgia richt has built a reputation as a man of faith. Who's quiet decency stands out in the cutthroat world of college football for him. It's simple you win with integrity you lose with integrity. It's the georgia way. That's what makes this right now. The most off the wall moment of mark ricks entire career as kickoff approaches rick makes his way back to the cramped locker room stands before before his players and reminds them his plan to snap their losing streak. He tells them if you don't get a celebration penalty after our first score. You'll all be doing early morning. Winning runs welcome to jacksonville and the seventy fifth encounter at this site between these two bitter rivals however you need to to compete if you're going to have a real rivalry breath and georgia has lost as we said fifteen of the last seventeen almost nine minutes into a scoreless game with georgia facing third and goal at the florida one yard headline star running back no sean marino takes a hand off and jumps over the pile of lyman in front of him marino up over the top georgia touchdown and here comes terms the entire team. Watch this for excessive celebration. We might have fifteen hanky zamir on this one. I can't believe this. This was playing. This was absolutely absolutely plan. Ric decided that he is going to try to fight his team up. He's tired l'audace having the psychological advantage. He's he's willing to give up the penalty. Nearly every georgia player on the sideline russia's the field penalty flags fly in every direction the c._b._s. c._b._s. Cameras swing to the other side line anticipating reaction from the gators. Tim tebow florida's phenomenally talented sophomore quarterback looks confused so does tvos coach urban meyer meyer is frantically waving his florida players off the field to avoid pointless penalties. Meanwhile allow ric takes it all in happily and knows his plan works. The gators rattled as the second half unfolds. Georgia's still doesn't give away. It's leave your stafford. Marino georgia bulldogs match every tibo touchdown with one of their own and win the game forty two to thirty for the first time in years. The florida georgia game lives up to the hype. A rivalry. That's been uneven in the last decade gate is incredible once again. Georgia's full team touchdown celebration quickly gets a nickname in the media. The gator stomp richt is is thrilled but he's created an unexpected new problem while he made the rivalry competitive again he also just encouraged urban meyer tim not bow and the entire florida team to spend the next three hundred sixty four days plotting their revenge that was just a preview of sports parts wars to hear the rest of the story subscribed to sports wars on apple podcasts or wherever you're listening right now a._p. News is sponsored by a._d._t. Real protection. Dan is professionally installed smart home security backed by twenty four seven monitoring our team will help you customize a system for your home including video doorbells indoor and outdoor <unk> cameras smart locks and lights that could be controlled from the a._d._t. App or the sound of your voice you can even help keep your loved one safe on the go with location sharing driving activity alerts alerts and an emergency s._o._s. button through the a._d._t. Go app that's a._d._t. Real protection.
Hawks Drama, News, Decade Tournament Finale
"Hi Welcome back fifth episode. This week's been a while since we've been able to do that and we're gonNA finish up with Ben Taylor. I promise this time. This'll be the last one one as we declare an all decade champion but we have some news that has piled up. Let's get to that here as we're recording this late on Thursday with start at the bottom alphabet here. The Washington Wizards completely destroyed by injuries. Right now remember. Thomas Bryant already out for them re-watch Moore's to miss at least the next five games with a Groin Ryan Issue Komo Wagner missed. His third straight in there eighteen point fourth quarter collapse against the Bulls on Wednesday so they basically have to healthy guys who can even pretend to be big one is Britain's and the other one is our old friend unjust `Push Knicks. Who was signed to a two way? He actually closed that. Ot game against against the Bulls in other news CJ miles with that foot issue. The Wizards have been granted. A four point three million disabled player exception remember that enables you to either either trade for a player making up to that amount in the last year of his deal or you may sign a player for up to that amount with currently have about four point five million below the tax if they want to do some trading though they might want to retain some of that room. I don't necessarily see them making a trade here. We don't have any idea how long wagner is going to be honest early Bryant should hopefully be back within the next couple of weeks based in that initial timeline also of note a wizard jammed. Tommy Sheppard set an podcast that They intend to keep devas us. Protons he has been the subject of trade rumors mostly because he's played so well and I think teams who are contending believed that they can help him really depends on whether the wizards are willing to pay up for him if he continues to shoot it like this. There's been a lot of great work done on the level of shooter that he has become able to make contested shots at six. Ten sprinting off screens really really valuable offense a player I think he deserves a ton of credit for how good this wizards offense has been considering their overall lack of talent beyond Bradley appeal so I'm sure his name will come up a lot more during the trade deadline whether you intend to keep them or not. This is what you say. If you want to drive up his value in theory that you gotta bullets over with with an offer and they probably haven't made a decision yet either on whether they want to keep run and twenty million a year for him. It wouldn't be absolutely absolutely jockeying. Frankly the way he shot the ball here. I'd be interested to see how he fits in as a starting power Florida on a team. That's got a little more defense around him in Utah. Bad News for Mike Conley Junior. He remember initially had a setback when he tried to ramp up his activity about a week and a half ago then he returned on Tuesday and had to leave the game again after only nineteen minutes. He's at now expected to miss multiple games and couldn't back to even miss multiple weeks reporting according there by Tony. Jones and Sean Toronto for Toronto looks like Fred Band Fleet might make his return on Friday. He didn't plan Wednesday against the Pistons. He said that knee issue. Initially termed a contusion also they are running into some additional injury issues with norm Powell. Having to leave on Wednesday with a shoulder issue he could potentially really miss sometimes. We'll get reevaluated. On Friday we ran into a screen set by Blake Griffin and was inconsiderable pain. So at a minimum. You'd have to expect that it's something that's going to affect him even if he's able play through it and then mark the soul never a good sign when you have to leave the game with the hamstring injury. Looks like it could be something. That's not going to be just a low grade. Great Hamstring issue. We haven't gotten a initial update on that happened in the first quarter on Wednesday against the Pistons after he'd had his best game of the euro seventeen points and fifteen rebounds. Lisa typically thickly in the previous game so that means Serge. IBAKA IS GONNA play. Chris Boucher is going to be their backup center in Phoenix. James Jones or GM hopeful that Devon Booker can finally return on Friday with that forum issue. That's kept around maybe longer than expected. And this is concerning here with Cam Johnson. He didn't play against the clippers on Tuesday. He'd battling left hip soreness for about a week unclear whether he's GONNA play in their next game on Friday but recall their concerns about his hip in the draft. That's one the reason why he was considered potentially reach the other is the perceived lack of upside. He'd actually been playing well. He closed the game as I mentioned with Josh Lloyd earlier in the week against Portland on Monday Eh. The Knicks Alonzo Cheers Miss. Three straight. With a concussion. You would think at some point. They're going to try and get him some more minutes but he's yet another one of these on bog is is the fit can be pretty tough with him and there are other players Reggie. Bulaq is finally cleared to practice coming up. Next surgery recalled that he was going to get paid a lot more this summer and then this next emerged and he ended up getting a two minus one at the room exception. My recollection was used was beginning being a about eight million or so initially. That's what enabled the Knicks to sign Marcus Morris instead also worth noting that Dennis Smith is getting getting. DMP's now Alfred. Payton has been playing pretty well under the Mike Miller renaissance slash dead cat bounce so with that being the case Several teams according to Ian Begley are interested in trading for Dennis Smith. Junior one of them being the wolf's wolves don't have much in the long-term at Point Guard they've obviously been linked to you D Ngelo Russell as well and it is something else I talked about with Josh Lloyd. A little bit Mark Stein reporting that the Pelicans would consider trading drew holiday. Josh I talked a little little bit about what kind of package would be required. That's another one. I'm sure we're going to get into as we get closer to the trade deadline. Minnesota aforementioned Karl Anthony towns could miss multiple games with a sprained left knee. He did not play last night as they got crushed at home by the pels. Were on a twelve game losing streak Minnesota pretty hopeless without crying. Anthony towns. Miami Goran Dragic had that green issue. He's hoping to return Friday against the Knicks per woge and justice wins owed no word on him getting close with that lower back strain likewise with cal Kuzina in L. A.. Keeps getting ruled out a day in advance with that ankle sprain and recall. Of course he's had a foot issues cousin to miss the start of the year. This is big news for the clippers amid the morass of environmental regulations. And the general impossibility of building. Anything in California that we Californians are known. Love Gavin newsom. The governor signed a Bill fast-tracking the arena arena meaning that environmental objections are to be adjudicated within the next year. or so. And this would set up a timeline for construction to to start in two thousand twenty one on that new clippers arena in Inglewood. Of course there is also the lawsuit ongoing with the forum in a separate action. That's not related to the state regulatory issues. But this would mean that they can leave staple center when their lease ends in two thousand twenty. Four and congratulations clippers only took you about ten years or so if you get it done in two thousand twenty four to build this arena Jamaica. Green also has missed a bunch of time now with a bruised tailbone and he's supposed to be back in the next few Games in Detroit Blake Griffin actually returned against Toronto on Wednesday recall that he had had to leave with left knee soreness he got an MRI and was able to come back. My guest was that he felt. Hey I'm got the soreness. Maybe it's smarter to leave the game but it turned out that nothing showed up on the MRI and and so you know maybe it was the type of thing where you could play with it. But he's like Hey I've got this sources at smart to do so and they give an MRI and maybe that's just how it's going to be for Blake now but it does seem pretty a clear to me that this is something. He's been showing what he's had that sleeve on his left knee all season. He had the surgery last year. Hasn't looked nearly the same as he did when he was so key. The in their playoff push a season ago Reggie Jackson. They're supposed to be an update on him. Tuesday there was not meanwhile Christian would suffered a left knee injury and Wednesday. Look a little scary. At first but He Bay needs to said to have avoided serious. Injury may miss sometimes unclear whether that's the case or not Cleveland and other rookie. We've been waiting to see the in part because they have so little on the wing and win. They're not necessarily GONNA saw their defensive issues but they do need more just off ball players as well in Cleveland. But we're not going to see him for some time here. He had a setback in his return from that left leg stress fracture. Remember that those supposed to be something that was gonNA keep them out. Maybe the first couple of weeks of the season so they've been exceedingly seemingly cautious and bring him back and he again had the setback so no on-court activities for him for two weeks would imagine that It would be another two weeks after that of ramping up and cautioned before he get on the court in theory another player just we have not seen him. Hardly at all this year Otto Porter still out another three weeks discussion take the that his foot was gonna be immobilized during that time. So I mean this is starting to feel like he could be out the entire year and yet the bulls really needed. We talked before the season. I use their most indispensable player because they don't have any threes. And that means that Chris done is now starting at three and done certainly As ramped up up his defense. He's been one of the best defensive guards. Maybe the best defensive guards in basketball but if Chris done is you're starting three. It does make it really tough the obvious sued couple of three pointers lately. But you're just they ran into this problem. lasser there just wasn't the spacing and Chandler Hutchison who might also be a potential source of relief but also can't shoot at the three. He's been out for some time with the shoulder. He was doubtful against the wizards on Wednesday. So proudly don't think he's GonNa play in their next game either yet. Another frustrating injury absences talk about where Kyrie is still not cleared for. Contact did not accompany the nets on their trip. I'd just like to thank the nets and the way they handle injuries for just making a bunch of work for me the and everyone else to have to give these constant updates instead of just saying. Yeah he's GonNa Miss Three weeks. Check back in later Gordon Hayward now as out with a sore left foot foot and Brad Stevens revealed I appreciate the transparency here that he had been feeling this for over a month before he had missed time with that thumb injury and this is also considering because the left foot is of course the same foot which he suffered that gruesome fracture in the first game. Seventeen eighteen season so this is a big concern. He tried to cortisone shot. That didn't help ANC. He's going to probably have to miss a lot of time but it looks like this is something that could play game and really ashamed because he had. I've been playing so well last thing here before we get back to Ben after Atlanta's suffered a one forty three to one twenty loss to the Knicks not exactly An offensive powerhouse. To date. This is now becoming a regular occurrence of this team giving up a buck forty or more. They've already given up a buck. Fifty into games this year some very negative give quotes Basically establishing that this is yet another dear for the hawks season. Chris Hanes had a story then crafted as only Chris can do it with the headlined being Lloyd Pearson Not on the hot seat yet and then of course talking about all the source issues that everyone seems to have with Lord Pearce from a macro view. I would say hey that every single issue that the hawks had is something. That was very obvious when you just looked at their personnel before the season it was obvious they weren't gonna be able to stop anybody. It was obvious that at the center position sucked. It was obvious that they had absolutely nothing at backup point guard and they can't scored all with trae young off the floor and that's why they have been terrible and now it does does seem like there are some internal issues. That are developing Vince. Carter had to play too much obviously. They've missed John Collins as well. He's going to be back on Monday. But it's getting to the point. Now remember those that report a couple of weeks ago from Shaam that a front office person was seen telling trae young. Yes like we're going to get you some help. And and that seems odd for where they are on a path but with young being this good or at least thinking that he's this good and yet the team being this bad add that leads to some tension. This isn't the process sixers where nobody had any expectations of winning also worth noting that remember they won about. I think seven games more more than expected based on their point differential your ago so everyone in the organization now is thinking twenty nine when team were just going to build from there but really. You're starting from twenty to win baseline line. And if they'd just won twenty two games last year. They're probably would have been different expectations for this group but discussion of a lack of accountability. A lack of discipline. I don't know this to be true. But certainly would seem like trey was one of the sources just reading between the lines there and that he is growing increasingly frustrated whether it's with the organization or the coach. They just have a lot of rookies. I mean you knew that camera Sh- who wasn't necessarily even even an effective player at Duke classier. If you told me he was going to be in the starting lineup and gifted all these minutes you knew that they weren't going to be good either so it does seem like there's a a lot of tension in here an end if I- externally had to put blame on so in this situation I would look at Travis lank because if the goal was to take a step for independent switch you know as when they have sixty billion and cap space this off season and could even create more. Maybe you might not want these sorts of headlines You might want to actually have short ended up some of these issues which backup point. Guard a decent center. This is the things that you could have done at. Not a ton of costs you know Jabari. Parker has has been starting but I don't know how much helps them. They took on Solomon Hills contract and just punted on twelve million dollars in a pretty bad value trade so there are a lot of things that they could've done to be better this year that I don't think you know the hunter trade doesn't look like it worked so far and this is also if that were saying at the time so I had feared when I saw This summer's moves. You know it really seemed like Oh. The hawks are up and coming Chavez Slang. He got the extension. He's doing a great job on like the perception of this group might have been at an all all time high this summer and we'll see what they can do in free agency this year but now they've made a big bet on radish hunter in particular and those guys don't seem to be doing being a ton may be hunter. If you get more around him can look better. 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So you can also point to the idea that if we're continuing the trend is in favor the warriors and they are healthier than the thunder so I think I think for two warriors is where I ended up here. I am very excited to say after our last Brouhaha the fussell that we just had I completely agree. Yeah I think there are any points the that are being missed here. I like this is one where now you can make the argument commit that hate game. Six that crazy clay game. That doesn't happen again. You can make that argument but I think what it comes down to to me is without the fast break and the offensive rebounding the two thousand sixteen hundred. Just don't score well enough against those exactly and I think that was an issue in game seven. That's series I mean. Look when we say it's kind of funny any how powerful the result is when we say the Klay Thompson game is not going to happen again. We know what's going to happen again. It's going to be a completely different series. It it might be the same in terms of outcome of games or tenor. And that's my focus and I think when I look back at that series even with curry being not one hundred percent the just the athleticism and the size of Oklahoma City was a thing but they played two games in the regular season Golden State one in o'casey in that classic game. I think the beat them by like twenty in oakland they they just were okay so he didn't have enough offense at the end for me to really you know. Consider going the other way here. So Yep What would you say? Six Games yes. Yeah I agree. Yeah and I think the other thing to point to also is twenty sixteen thunder not exactly known for their execution acution in the clutch whereas that warriors team was one of the greatest clutch team. So we've ever ever seen it. Finally that magic failed them in the only close game in that series. which was there's game seven in the finals? But that was They they really. I mean thunder did win game one on the road which was a relatively close game but I think if it gets down to close games the worst of a massive advantage agreed this one two thousand eighteen rockets number six seed twenty fourteen spurs number. Three seed I'm going to take the two thousand eighteen rockets in six games even without the homeport Susan's our last quarter-final right. Yes Twenty Eighteen rockets verse twenty. Fourteen disperse yeah and I and I do. I think it would be seven Gamer. But just when it's the road team it makes more sense to pick them insects. Yeah but I think this is as close as could be even though. I'm picking a six game series to be clear but I just I think that the only way you could stop that twenty fourteen spurs is if you could switch. But I don't think the twenty fourteen spurs really have much much of an antidote to switching. Can you give me a quick synopsis on maybe piggybacking off that last point how you kind of see the series going on both in other words the rockets still do their thing. And then the spurs can't get quite as much from their offense. Is that what you're saying. Kind of break it down for me. Well okay. So so here's the I think. Think two thousand fourteen spurs can defend the rockets pre. Why I think they would use a pre similar strategy against hardened to what we saw in the two thousand seventeen playoffs and that worked Aw Really rear-view contesting essentially forcing hardened to drive conventional pick and roll defence Now how would the spurs deal with James Harden saying okay. Well I'm GonNa just have Tony Parker or bondage nobly or Patty Mills. `As or Marabella Eli's men come screen for me and then I'm GonNa go into my ice. Oh game against that guy. How could the spurs deal with that deal with the step axe reported from our that? I I wonder about I think really though the ends up being more of a defensive series. I also think Chris Paul working against the Spurs he usually played pretty well against the Spurs in conventional pick and roll defence his mid range game I think could hurt the Spurs But the switching on defense the rockets. That's where they win this series me because the spurs as awesome as they were. I don't think they really had had an answer to score against switching defense. Who is the individual because co is not quite so yet? WHO's going to go one? On One and score against this rocket switching defense we saw for long periods shutdown where the grace offense of teams of all time that had more eyeso- ball ability in the two thousand eighteen warriors. I don't see how how who's GonNa beat those switches for the Spurs and the Spurs to me back in twenty fourteen. You can't learn enough to beat switches with just your L. system ball in a weak. Yep Yep the that is a compelling argument to me man. It's a bummer. Love that Spurs team. But I do think I do think here. You're the idea. Okay let me flip it and put it this way. WHO's the closest team in two thousand eighteen to playing that motion heavy non ISOS style passing moving and shooting who is the closest team in the NBA in two thousand eighteen to that style? That was excelling. If you're going to say the words I would say no. So who do you think it's taught them. I'm not sure who you would say. It is at this point. I mean because I mean I was curious. I was curious if you were going to say the warriors because no because the the amount of shooting that the we're your side I mean the warriors motion it's based on getting guys open twenty feet from the basket. Yeah I just I don't think like the Spurs game looked incredible but it relied on getting the initial penetration off moving the ball pick and rolls the. HBO's when they're the first team really using Theo's Atanas Atanas wall you'll those loop sets that they'd run so parker generally getting into the lane against conventional style of defense and then using their passing passing in shooting to kill you that but if you're I just don't see them getting the initial opening against this rockets T- that'd be my argument against them. I think they got a lot the extra stuff from not just. HBO's and Loop Zipper. Whatever but I mean even little like those little rub cuts and entered the ball into Dunkin and just run by and teams weren't switching that and you get a layup like three times game but the rockets I mean remember? This rockets team is optimized to guard yen. Yup The twenty eighteen twenty seven in two thousand eighteen warriors. And like the Spurs are. Just a is this where you're going. Exactly Yeah Yeah. I was trying to stay to wonderful argument against myself as basically it's a classic Taylor move where what how many how many what's your pick here. I add rockets and say angry. Wow Wow so what. What the Hell did you pick them? Third for them just just as a respect to what they did like statistics absolutely and also learning the rules of the tournament on the fly and really eating a steady dose of crow. Because I I think the the challenge that fourteen spurs team they to me are one of the greatest teams ever within the season but when you play him. Forward in this tournament went the thing. I wasn't giving enough justice to is how I think how they would lose some of the edge that they generated against future teams and unfortunately this is like the future future team. This is the cyborg coming back through the portal from the past custom-made to to kind of stifle I think their strengths on probably both ends which is a lot to take in or a lot to overcome. Yeah I mean the one thing I think they can guard these this rockets team okay. Because of the perimeter defenders they have with Koyi Hawaii and Danny Green and Then they have a lot of trees at the basket with Duncan. Still splitter isn't the greatest rim-protector I think with with harden going downhill at split he's GonNa be able to score on him but against Duncan he's still massive at the basket And I think it could look a little bit for harden like that. Twenty seventeen series did Pop also does a great job of coaching guys. Up to knock foul which I think is important. It's C. P. and hard I do think that the Spurs guard the rockets really really well but I think the the rockets will take away from the spurs even more than The Spurs could but. Yeah I mean it's a bad to me. It's a bad match up for the two thousand fourteen spurs in tournament and Bengals already moved them through. So it's official. But they just don't think they have quite enough and to be clear. I don't think either of US are saying saying they're going to get run off the court. It's just I mean six game series still probably a decently competitive series but I just think the edges when you line up the edges. There's there's more to like on both sides of the ball for what Houston excels at versus. What made San Antonio differentiate from the competition? Yeah I think they're really. The Spurs are really just hurt by being four years earlier in time and the rockets evolving specifically to deal with that motion as Ula too so you deprive me of the team team that I actually thought would have the best chance of beating the 2017 words in this group which would have been the two thousand thirteen heat I thought they would match up pretty well. We've got twenty seventeen warriors against two thousand sixteen calves. I mean maybe maybe it's my own fault. Maybe I just did to Shiva job arguing for the two thousand thirteen But I just I don't think the twenty any thirteen heat are going to have the gear to take away. I mean we don't have to litigated because they got eliminated. But what was I mean. I'll I'll be filing my appeal appeal later on but for now we talked about that enough. I lost I will. We were not on the rockets anymore. We're on the cavs now. I'll just do here. So twenty-seven gene wars two thousand sixteen calves We saw this basically this matchup in the two thousand seventeen finals Twenty seventeen warriors. All three of the Games in Oakland were are not competitive Game three was competitive. Katie hit that big shot easily twenty seventeen ease the loss of Kyle Korver. Just it's a wide open corner three And then obviously the twenty sixteen cavs go nuts historic offensive. I think that eighty eight points in the first half inning in game. Four that series. Yeah I was at the supermarket during that game watching it on my phone as I shopped and I saw a friend of mine who worked there and he said what's the score the game and I said something like eighty six to fifty eight in the second quarter and he looked at me and he said that don't make no sense. No actually no. The halftime score of that was eighty six to sixty. Yeah they scored a lot of that game. But I don't think it's tough to argue two thousand sixteen Cleveland Kid. Get much of anything against against that team Given how similar the twenty seventeen caps were. We made the argument when we're trying to decide initially of two thousand sixteen calves between seventeen caps Aw Inc two thousand. Sixteen calves are better defensively James in particular is better defensively up. He's still got a guard K. D. and he was guarding Draymond Bond in two thousand sixteen series and he was more of a help defender but I mean the twenty two thousand sixteen calves. Richard Jefferson maybe as a little bit better the level us. Playing the trey origin was better. I thought yes yeah. I think that's fair so I'm willing to go for two rather than four one also acknowledging that you know I think Warriors Win Win all the Games in Oakland pretty easily. And then they squeak out one on the road CAV scout one at home and then there's one cads blow out at home. That's kind of how I see it going That's fine. I would have gone five in in favor of the worst but well yeah I mean I guess yeah. I guess it would have had to be. They'd be they'd be at home in game five right. Yeah I mean I guess if you look at it that way to yet maybe it would be You know the Cleveland would've had to have won both three and four at home to spend all have the performance of these teams as we go through the tournament like do we know the twenty seventeen warriors record heading into the finals are they. Are they twelve and to give him a loss in the last series and a loss here. uh-huh yes the same four one here in in the conference finals. I think so. Yeah I was just looking for some analytics on our tournament. Yeah Yeah so warriors have one. I think we had them losing one game in each of these runs so this Abi other Twelve and three go going into I I I will see to you. 'CAUSE WE IF I argue with you I'm going to know you. That's it was redemption for me after some of the fantastic arguments you had earlier you D- what do you mean the earlier one. You talked me right. I just I feel like I feel like I let let down the entire city of Miami. I let down the Eric Spoelstra Pat Riley Brooks. No failure is wasn't prepared enough. I just didn't do a good enough job. Tweet tweet had a tweet out of I'm going to be reading member. Nations that the two thousand thirteen he would have beaten the two thousand sixteen calves. Oh man this is key reading. These mentions for months get Next June what were you thinking going against Dunkin. Would that two thousand sixteen cavs team Yeah we also just for drama. I wish we would have had the heat and because we know what already happens in this match up but you know it is what so. Yeah I mean very interesting that all of our final four teams or within a two year period Okay Twenty Six warriors two thousand eighteen rockets. This is a good one so I think one one argument that you could make is what happens. In Twenty nineteen the series where Katie goes down and the two thousand sixteen warriors and a quarter and and a half beat. The two thousand eighteen rockets are the two thousand nineteen rockets Whatever twenty nine hundred twenty nine I? I'm with you. I think the I think the other argument the other angle take. Is that the raw the twenty eighteen warriors do do you think the twenty eighteen warriors were that much better a fat all the healthy twenty sixteen years. I'm not convinced of that. Well especially as they faced the rockets remember Steph. Curry Yup is another another injury injuries. Come into I mean these are fulsome teams that struggle a little bit with injury. I think that that you're gonNA play this series one hundred times You're probably I think you probably even like the health of the two thousand sixteen years better than the two thousand eighteen rockets. I mean Steph. Curry at least played seventy nine games that year. He played a a bunch of games the year before her twit so I mean he's in two thousand sixteen. He's basically been entirely healthy for almost three full seasons. Now I guess the other question and also I mean in two thousand sixteen. They're coming off of the seventy three wins. They're tired. We're erasing all of that now. The fatigue of the seventy-three went. Yeah and that to me and I remember remember they if the if they're starting a new season right now they have won twenty four games in a row certainly well. I think I'm going to go back to the same argument I made against against my two thousand fourteen spurs team. Yeah Yeah Okay with with rockets. Is that where you were you. were yet the that that the rockets in have just two more years of experience dealing with this The style of play that the warriors have which is going to chip away at it a little bit but then there's another component of that spurs team as. Well which is that. The rockets regular season performance probably overstates a little bit like in the in the playoffs. Even before Chris Paul got injured their numbers came down a little bit. They looked a little bit more normal. They were like forty and two when that starting lineup in the regular season and that still small enough to have have a little noise and then in the playoffs they were like eleven and four. I Lo- I know people from Houston are gonNA say Luca embalm Mugabe was out as well. But he's like the Yeah seven hundred. He would really help their defense a lot against his twentieth. Yeah that's that's true Yeah he was out. I mean also Andrea Guatemala Allah Mrs After Game Three and the warriors of kind of dominated the series three games Steph is coming off the MC L. in twenty eighteen. He and he's it's just to me an order of magnitude better in two thousand sixteen. Yes and he's able to beat these switches in a way that I mean. The switching against the two thousand sixteen eighteen words didn't work of stuff was just like put guys in the mix and launch threes over them and score but but the critical question to me about the two thousand sixteen warriors is still how and I've tried tried to watch curry. And how teams of played this since the middle of that season and it kind of evolved even through the playoffs and now we see different coverages on this back back then. He had an advantage because teams would still leave bigs on the court they would still go under. They still wouldn't respect a twenty nine foot pull up. The League is completely changed. Its approach to that two thousand eighteen Houston has that information and they have a team designed to take that away. How much does that chip away? That has to take away some of of the sparkle from that incredible offense when he's healthy but my question is how much does it take away. Does it take away enough. I'm not sure so yeah I think and the other thing too to me is that two thousand sixteen warriors defense is better to me than the two thousand eighteen worse defense with Egwu Dolla Draymond August. Remember remember John can shoot. Yeah that's a huge one if we're if we're like he hit five threes in game. Seven of final. Yeah I mean he shot. What thirty six percent and thirty eight percent thirty eight percent and he just his stroke look better? A big part of what they did was not guard dream on at all and dream on his actually like a pretty decent offensive player in two thousand eighteen series. Again that we're talking about here so yeah I think that's a good point Twenty sixteen word as being better than twenty eighteen years. Especially when you consider some of the entries there I'm also like staff during that period would really kill Chris Paul And this is a two years later Chris Paul. I don't think Chris Paul's Eyeso- game is really. You know work that while against the two thousand sixteen years the other advantage you have to two thousand sixteen years can switch up. They can either switch or they can go with the sort of twenty seventeen in Spurs Two thousand eighteen. Utah approach against heartening while with Bogut in the game. Now in bogus in the game I don't think the the warriors in a score that well but I think what this ultimately comes down a to me is two thousand. Sixteen staff is better than two thousand eighteen harden especially as a playoff player. harden his hat these failures in the playoffs. We talked about And then I and I also think the two thousand sixteen years have way better defensive personnel ultimately between eighteen rockets even though the two thousand eighteen rockets got a ton out of defensive personnel fennell. That was not that amazing So I think that still to me beats the Two Thousand Eighteen rockets having the experience -perience advantage hover. We want to quantify that kind of being built to beat this team for two years earlier. Two Thousand Eighteen rockets have it here. They shot when they were healthy. They shot thirty seven point seven percent from three as a team the warriors when they were healthy in two thousand sixteen shot over forty two percent. That's crazy that's insane. I mean Steph Curry. Yeah it's just like we still it's just such a shame that we never got to see him at full strength in those playoffs to see what it was that he could do. Yeah so I think alluded to earlier some of the I would also say one more thing here. I think the words a little bit of a coaching advantage of Kerr over Dan. Tony I mean in terms of going into this series matchups flexibility. I I would agree on that front. Yeah Yeah I- Loo- tutor earlier just one more stat. I had in the eighteen gene Houston team in the fifteen playoff games before Chris. Paul injured his hamstring. At the end of game five their offense was about plus five. So this is Keith came down there is a little. It's it's an incredible team So incredible that I'm going to give them a Lotta respect here but I'm GonNa go warriors then I'm going to say six or seven. Even I could see the series go. I think I'll go six. Ultimately I think the rockets have just another game. Six collapse up's the fans are shaking their heads about it but I think it ends up being a dogfight for the first five games the series I think the twenty sixteen warriors as the series goes on begin to figure out that switching defense a little bit I do think the rockets make it ugly for a couple of games but I think ultimately Twenty sixteen warriors ticket. They also have home court. Obviously but I'M GONNA go six games here so that I'm with you on six six sounds good and that leaves a shocking teams at the finish line. Yeah you know. If if this bracket had broken out differently and twenty thirteen Miami had played against Twenty Sixteen Golden State. I think I might pick twenty thirteen Miami in that matchup But but they They were poorly coached that I did not make it out of the out of the. They were poorly coached. I see your plan though when when when nate floated this idea to me. I said something about how to handle these warriors teams. And he's like oh it's played out. See what happens and you had A. You had an ace up your sleeve. That never quite made it out of your shirt. Yeah so twenty Seventeen Warriors Twenty sixteen warriors. Also I mean if twenty sixteen wears or an at different matchup than twenty eighteen eighteen rockets than you might start to make the argument of like a of the health mattering But you know I think the two thousand eighteen rockets are just as vulnerable there. So I don't think that's a a major advantage inch either So I think you can say I think the twenty sixteen warriors are better defensively than the twenty seventeen workers agreed. And I think keep going going like we're like we're starting. I think bogut now again house. How well does he play in the playoffs? He he had some pretty bad games in the playoffs but he does provide an element of in production. Now not that the two thousand seventeen warriors even necessarily need to get to the rim that much and he's also going to have to get out on the floor that's gonna open things up Katie two thousand sixteen years definitely guarded him pretty. Well you've got a you got a much better draymond in two thousand sixteen a twenty seventeen eighteen. Yep and you've got a much better stuff yep Well I think we have to be careful with much better. That's well. Yeah Yeah I think I think you because It just wasn't the same just sitting through both of those seasons on a night tonight basis the other abandoned with which doubles when if you just watch say the highlights highlights of two thousand seventeen stuff versus twenty sixteen stuff. Yeah I agree with you. I just the shots that he's throwing up the other abandoned enjoy the display with his ability to get get to the rim. Remember also that he he basically can't train all the off season before sixteen seventeen because of the injury twenty sixteen. Yeah so that. That's actually how I see that season reason for him as as a regular season and the I I don't know how many games thirty fifty some huge chunk of games is an adjustment period for him admits an adjustment period for the league with durant being there He he like you said maybe some rust from the off season but I think by the time the playoffs come around. I don't I don't know if I would say he's way better as a basketball player. Think his impact and the things that the league were trying to do offensively against him the year before made his impact act clearly better. But I'm just not sure it's I think two thousand sixteen stuff was better. I'm just not sure in this. Matchup would say oh they have like a a nuclear flame flame thrower on one side of the court and that twenty seventeen curry. He's more of A. He's more of a pedestrian guy. He's still really close in right. That's that's that. But he's he's. He's missing the incredible off the dribble three point shooting and I think he's a little bit worse getting to the best of all. You didn't see just the incredible. Aw artful finishes high off the glass quite as much in seventeen as you do in sixteen Let me let me throw a stat on these two teams that I love in the two thousand seventeen warriors when the big four were on the court. So that's Durant Steph clay and draymond. They played twelve hundred and fifty three minutes. Let's together regular season and playoffs and their net rating was plus twenty two. I mean it's it's obviously. I'm playing devil's advocate here. It's the most talented team of all time. Yeah and I think not close now well I think offensively. It's hard for me to mount valid arguments. Not that there aren't teams. That are kind. Live in can sniff it. But there's just so many things that put them over the edge offensively they're healthy. Audience of rating was one twenty as a team in all the games. Fifty one games The the status going to counter with was in two thousand sixteen when Golden State had their big three at the time. Clay Draymond and Steph. Those guys played almost almost two thousand minutes and enormous sample and they were plus twenty like that team was so good. The question here to me is how much does the year changed the way they they defend them. How much does the fact that it's the same personnel like in practice? Do they know that they should defend their actions differently than the league does. These are the wrinkles to me. Yeah well they're gonNA switch a lot. I mean they're definitely both teams switching against each other a ton I. It's just it does I mean I think the twenty sixteen warriors there's probably a better chemistry You'll recall twenty. Sixteen warriors are one of the great clutch teams of all time. Twenty seven words actually really struggle in the clutch. They win really fewer games than they're supposed to. When Katie is healthy during the regular season and the one clutch game? Really that mattered in the playoffs. they they did pretty well in that they come back I think from either four six down at yeah in Cleveland but that two thousand sixteen years to me. I do think that they fit fit together a little better. In the Clutch Twenty seven warriors are mentally. They were a little dicey early on me. Or are they get just get blown out at home in the first game. By the Spurs they lose to the cavs and Christmas they had a game where they blow a twenty point lead at home to Memphis 'em even in the era they seemed kinda prone a little bit into some meltdowns drawn. Being able to shoot. I think matters Bogut is better than czar Bogut to me as much. Yeah much better. I mean bogeyed has. It's always been the missing guy. Disgust on that twenty sixteen team. They were so good defensively tr- well he sucked in the playoffs and he always seemed to suck in the. Yeah Yeah I don't I don't know if we're GONNA win. I'm just trying to decide whether it's like a sweep four one four two. I could even be convinced to go as far as fort. Okay Ah let let me let me keep playing devil's advocate here. They I always saw bring in durant and you know that the shift from sixteen to seventeen you sacrifice sacrifice some depth and sacrificed some size. And so what are the key pieces outside of the stars on these teams that are play. It's like so you still have Livingston on each team right. Yeah who who's worse. I think significantly David Wests does come in. They don't have him in two thousand sixteen. So in sixteen they have to have a better IGA dolla. They have bogut. They have Just Barbarian Harry Harrison Barnes. But you can argue at the games that just being more stuff centric knowing what we're doing stuff dream pick and roll bars is gonNA spot up. He's not gonNA car about not getting the touches 2017 it's the stuff Katie pick and roll wicha also also pretty good. It's not a bad phone but then you've also got draymond off the ball in those actions and twenty seventeen dream. I can't shoot in two thousand sixteen on can that's such a a big thing for unlocking. I mentioned some of the stats earlier. Like like from a full season statistical perspective the two thousand sixteen warriors are very close to the two thousand seventeen warriors and I think a lot of that wasn't just defense it was having draymond green. Be Able to shoot and punish all of that because you can't guard all five five of them and so he's the guy who leave open and would you say it was thirty eight percent just just yeah being able to hit that shot and also his playmaking and short. Roll stuff I I actually think this is closer than you're making how to be all right for two is my pick so the seventeen years have home court. They play game six at home. Yeah who's WHO's intangibles I think the twenty sixteen warriors are probably actually more motivated in this series than the twenty seventeen years. I think they have better in Tan Harrison. Barnes it's like sees that. Oh you replaced me the next year with K. D. I think they have more intangibles. I think I guess he knew that that was coming. Already at Barnes. I mean he gets a bad rap. I are struggling so badly at the end of the Cleveland series but he was pretty good in the clutch before that That that team has more chemistry to me and as more fun playing together than the seventeen seventeen team. I'm as it crazy to think that this would go seven games. I mean that's what I'm thinking here. Well I mean ultimately the two Thousand Sixteen Warriors lose the twenty two thousand sixteen calves that we just had the twenty-seven whereas beating four one. But they they we to be consistent. We don't fully healthy. That's the issue right I. I agree I I think they would just me. I think that would have run that cavs team. If they were healthy yeah and they did in the first two games than the and they're up three one and if dream on I mean we didn't even mention the fucking suspended for juryman. They win the series and five if he doesn't get suspended and dream on did a bunch of dumb shit so you have to say it's possible that he could get suspended. Spend it again this year. If you go through an entire playoff run other. They're not playing in the final sere. So maybe by maybe by this point draymond has gotten suspended in two thousand sixteen and because we're in the final what he's twenty seventeen draymond suspended as well then no because he he really had like a moment. A change in ease is a new man at twenty. I don't know I. I don't think I'm getting suspended. Joking aside Who does here's the question? WHO Does he kick? Yeah will they play against the the two thousand sixteen thunder earlier in in these playoffs. Also here's another thing for you. To though Ben Twenty Sixteen warriors are so much more worn down playing twenty sixteen thunder and then twenty eighteen Huston an whereas twenty seventeen words of cruised through our. It's a good point. That's a good point. Yeah I think it's going to say I can't quite go. I'm GONNA say six okay. Okay all right well done those those fast. Yeah only an hour and fifty two time flies when you're having fun though. This is a total of three hours. I promise that this wouldn't take as as long as you take with. Danny and then we did take the. But it's I mean this is one of my favorite shows that we've ever done. This is this was I. Please tweet us about this. There's like about a million million things to get into Thanks thanks for involving me in this. I haven't done anything like this in years and you know my personality personality doesn't like I have to keep diving deeper watching film on Saturday night from the thirteen finals. It's it was a ball. Thanks I this is more fun to me than in doing like an all time team bracket would be because the styles are just so different. You know some team from the as just GonNa get worked so it. It's just yeah I had. This is close enough before you could still see some stylistic differences. The decade went on but I had to sort of Reorient I. I've never done that kind of or I shouldn't say never but it's just been so long since I've had that approach that when I was stacking up the teams on my draft board. It took me a while to get more matchup sensitive Yeah that that. It was really something that played out. That was very exciting. And I don't even think you know if anything most of the cases were probably to vanilla you know like certain things. There's going to be upset. Certain things are going to happen. Close series are going to go the other way and we had to upsets. I know we had three ups. So Johnson Right. Yeah well I think we I think we we add four. We had four hundred twenty. Sixteen Thunder beat the Twenty Sixteen Spurs than we had Tweaks Calves being the twenty thirteen he yup the six the sick the six three the rockets beat the Spurs. Yeah okay so I guess it was only I guess. It was only three obsessed but that's about right for a playoffs though. Sounds pretty good How many seven-game series we had we had rafters box? That was like a clear. Seven Gamer cavs twenty sixteen calves. Twenty seven Gamer. Those only seven games. We had I think so. Yeah Yeah That's about normal to for a playoffs. Maybe a little bit. Yeah yeah I mean it could. It can certainly fall that way. All right I'll let you go here before we hit the two hour mark Follow Follow Benz Youtube page at the Thinking Basketball Youtube page. His book back in two thousand eleven was a revolutionary book. If you read that thing you're like some of the things this way in twenty eleven it's pretty good Thinking basketball is that book. What else do you need to talk about thinking basketball podcast? Oh yeah which I appeared Also discussing historical Gustav. Yeah we did last week. That feels like about a month ago. Now we did All time great powerful words those really fun. Ironically we actually recorded that just before. Starting this Pucca no no. I think that's everything. I don't know patriotic patron dot com slash. Thinking basketball is the place where you go out of these proprietaries. Yes you've got on on their. Yep exactly so you can get leaderboards for these stats during the season. We do PODCAST post shows. We have a discord community where you can talk about. Got A lot. The people in their talk about historical stuff all the time. We just had An all time team tournament. It wasn't based on all time teams that were structured teams like the twenty sixteen thunder under it was draft players and then argue about how they would play So we got all that because sometimes special patron videos. I think that's everything I always forget to plug my stuff off but yeah I think that's everything discord that that'll be a good way to describe what's going to happen when people hear about the two thousand sixteen calves being the twenty thirteen. You think. That's the one that's GonNa again. Well it is for me. I don't know if I can accurately describe I think maybe eighteen rockets over fourteen spurs I think is probably going to Raise some eyebrows for some people. We will see but I felt actually pretty clear on that way and that's one where it's just the historical evolution. I mean the reality is we've probably got every game perfectly all right on that note. We'll be back tomorrow GEL.
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Uh Well I started this because you guys. Oh the spray. Do you like it people. I think I have like What's it called you know? Kristen really has taken to the spray as well. I like it. But it's not orally satiated enough for me and he'd like more present for this role. I did recently just to get like manic energy and then I was chewing trink constantly and I got like Gye. Su I started doing this. Is that a habitual thing. Or that's the the first time you had jaw issues where Mouth Guardia. CLENCH at night. I think women just hold stress anger. other women in my family were mouth guards and his it done damage your molars green powder also says Oh. You've been fussing and I haven't all. This is my favorite thing about denso. I hadn't gone in eight years and Kristen was really getting on me like he got a and I was like I know I know I know a UH win. Eight years is a long long. I've been twice in the twenty five years lived in La. Maybe three times but anyways when I went finally to Dr Keen I asked him. He's in there rooting around and scrape and stuff. And I said let me ask you Dr Keen. How long do you? You think it's been since my last appointment. And he really studied at me goes well. I don't think you've been within six months but I it doesn't look like it was more than a year. You know so January you and I know each other peripheral orally yes. Yeah we've been around each other. Yeah you were dating long before I knew coacher sure right. Yeah we moved out here together. We were like nineteen then corey here. Together New York we met on Abercrombie and Fitch Campaign and then I moved to Paris and I let him stay in my apartment in New York and then when I came back I was like well. You're here we should stay And then he got two shows Seventy Show and some other surfing cowboys Sure surfers here's really excited about that. One and I just said I'd rather not move to Hawaii. LA's cool that's fine. So he took seventy show. So yes I I just saved his life. Oh sure yes sir first cowboy that would have been yeah though. Maybe he could've saved it. You just don't know maybe the ingredient was coacher yet had blake Bo Derek. Can I remember making the decision Zhang. Because we're my house in South Dakota and I was just like why is great and all but yeah. That's you far. Yeah and then you would have done nothing. What the fuck what you've done in Hawaii? Yeah Yeah because I don't Tan Tan. You don't like couple of weeks ago. Yeah we were there over. Thanksgiving those very heartbreaking that. They didn't have mashed potatoes. Oh they kept asking everyone gets a buffet have bash said. We don't have those in Hawaii. I feel like I've had French fries there. At least he did. Okay Yeah Have you noticed. Listen in Hawaii that they're very big on spam on many of the menus. If you go to like just local restaurants Ma'am there. Oh I had spam growing up in South Dakota maybe it's because is you have to get so much process stuff shipped into islands and South Dakota South Dakota I've only driven through one time. Yeah yeah aw aw July on a motorcycle it was. Heaven Sturgis Sturgis at least we stopped short a sturges but we went to mount rushmore. CLA WOAH and look very cool and just the right into Mount Rushmore show beautiful. It's a beautiful park new. You know what happened why. We didn't go to Sturgis. It's dangerous Andress. Well that wasn't my guy I did this ride with my ex girlfriend. Bring we left Detroit and I had my first Harley brand new Harley and we drove a tally and we went to northern. They're not in every gas station. We stopped at three or four men would come up and talk to me like Oh two thousand. Yeah I had a seventy nine PAN head. Didn't blow away and and then you just get ensnared in like a forty five minutes to Chit Chat. Every single gas stations on super friendly nice parts really nice but I said out on that trip to ride a motorcycle through the beautiful countryside in summer not to chat with strangers at the gas station for forty five minutes to stop so the funniest thing sir. I was a little sick of talking about the motorcycle by the time. We got to South Dakota. I was like I've had a thirty five conversations about the motorcycle and I'm I'm over at embry wisely really said and you WANNA become famous. Yes see like had the foresight to go like and you think you have the right personality type to to be famous because you're going to be talking to a lot of strangers strangers. Yeah that's a very good point. I should have thought about that At least Sarah part of my job. Yeah I'm happy to be here and I agreed to be here but but you're not a difficult. You're not an extrovert by nature. Now right that and you get social anxiety very much so so weirdly. I never had it and then I developed in this career because there's lots of energy and I used to take betablockers for red carpets. And things like that but then I got better at it. You get used to it. It came back again like a few years ago. I was doing last man on earth press and there's so many people swarming and somebody either on the cast or someone's like just pretend when you have like a button on your arm that's like a your favorite color like Turquoise plexiglass thing comes up to shield you from energy or whatever so I was like wow one industry party like fucking because she my arm like not worth. It sounded like a coin. What's the worst experience that you can remember? When Madman? I came out maybe after the first season I was in New York and I cornered by lady walking on the street and she like back acme up against the wall and started talking as if I was my character and it was I. I didn't know I didn't know she's crazy or or if I'm just that a good no she's worried about my safety with don and then she was like. I don't know why you did that to him. As after the second season 'cause she's like and then you fuck that guy in the bar and she's like very angry with me and then I got defensive and I was like yeah. He's been cheated on either. The first one hundred to one I'm pregnant and I'm in a bar and it's the Cuban missile crisis like. Let me have one being you know. Roll around but right and then I was like I had to backtrack myself industy like. Do you want a picture. Can I go. That seems seems to be the thing. That's the only time I've been actually like yelled at a ton was when I cheated on my fiance on parenthood on twitter. I just got lit up up for a month. People like really angry me. You didn't write it. No it's the weirdest thing by this. But what would it tells me. Is that very passionate anatomy. Love the show so much the two things are like. Oh that's awesome that this thing is so engaging. Right that part's awesome and then for me. It's also like Oh that cheating thing that is number one for people that is the thing that they it'll blur the line between. That's an actor playing the schedule. They like they did in them. That they ha- yeah I get that I suppose I probably have done that but only like reality stars and that's Real Omega struck off very easily and reality TV stars are just my just because I think that that that's it's not scripted. Right I mean maybe story boarded but yeah they're doing those things. Yeah Yeah I feel like I have licensed to bitch at them about. I think the most excited I've ever been to meet a cast was the Jersey shore cast was coming into maybe like the today show or something and I was leaving and I got to just sit and talk snooky for like six is minutes and I was texting Chris and the entire time talking to snooky. I mean we were. Yeah WH- Cumulus. We were just on cloud nine about the whole experience. I loved it long. You Yeah Vander pump rules housewives. I- I mean what's Vander pump rules. It's the spinoff of Lisa Vander Palm. Who's on the house? Weiser was on the housewives of Beverly Hills. Okay and they're all they all work at Sir or did they don't know they all have houses more expensive than mine now. Probably but they. They are waiters and binders sir. And they're just messy mess. Young goods like kind of I mean Jackson's like older older than me. I'm really not really I wasn't I wasn't too. I really liked real housewives of Beverly Hills but I didn't foray into Vanterpool. They did it in such a genius. Way where you're watching the finale of row houses Beverly Hills and all of a sudden the characters go in the kitchen and all of a sudden here in the kitchen of the restaurant. And then you're just tied into this other it's just like Whoa. I just got roped into two hours hours without realizing that is genius and then I was in and ever since what's great about. It is like Monica was a phenomenal student. She's very very intelligent. Don't and yet her relationship with the bachelor is something I've never seen like we're in a hotel love it. I haven't watched recent seasons which I'm embarrassed is to say as a fan but the older seasons I was. I have some of the episodes downloaded on my computer so I could rewatch we. We were in a At a hotel in Turkson Keiko's Imanaka like turned white like she which is really a dream come true and that's why you like them so much he's got to always be with them. There was a Bachelorette or I don't even know Abacha Batra Jason Mez neck remember him. He was a bachelor and he picked Melissa and then he during after the final Yes yes yes his second choice. Who is molly? That's happened again. Recently I heard yes always good to have a backup. Well Yeah So. Then he called seconds and Molly Jason were. They're they're married now still and they have a kid to kids. We've the first one it was early on. It was oh I I want to say it was like a rally. What is their thirty? Some seasons of by now for sure more with ADS Lorette and Basham Paradise I watch all of it was so adorable. Is that Monica. Not only lost her shit when she saw them she then launched into like she was checking in with their social. Oh media to see like if they were eating in restaurants Lee stocking was like Veronica Mars. EANET like you're really mapping out dream. They got so into the bachelor. One season that I was I was instagram. Things and then interview magazine called and asked if I would write an article about the season finale and then I did a bit for Kimmel where I was like reporting live from BMI dining room or whatever and cut super into it and it was won a Nick seasons he did several and I was just blasting that guy and then I went on court in and did the same thing different story. But that's all I had to talk about that at that time. I don't know if maybe it is. The show is on. I don't know what I was there to promote ended up talking about the bachelor and then Nick slid into my. DM's it and he's like. I'm so sorry that your perception of me is so negative. I'd love to take you out to coffee and see if I can change your mind and I was like God did. Did you go so I I was. I hate that guy. My sister's like giving johnny go you will forever regret agreed to go on a date with him. As I met Archer drinks whatever and as I met him I was rounding the corner and I saw is very distinct walk and I had this instinct like run up to him and right mailings around his waist. You know like they do. Oh Wow he's so sad that you stopped yourself by the way out of the date go. Allie dead was grilling about the show. We couple dates. Yeah Lucky Har- laid this new. I was about. I'm so good you just started telling but but I was going to say you've been single. Why not date those? Because like if I were like we love this show let me tell you some we. I love the show. What is it Monica on? MTV Are you the one do you watch that. It's phenomenal and every season I am attracted to at least two of the ten girls Dell's pretty profoundly and certainly I was single. I would go out of my weight's who have gone on dates with some of those people just want to hook up with them. Yeah that's the boy girl. Things the thing that attracted me to neck was that he seemed like I mean he was cast as the quote unquote villain. He was actually he had a bit of a brain. Yeah so it was. There was something something else there right. That's all we were talking about really a lot of juicy inside stuff. Why shouldn't I don't work for? ABC The how they holiday. Yeah when they come out of the Limo and they all have these little sticks or whatever like reducers are handing them to them and then I just felt bad for the people like the Dolphin Costume. Yeah and and there's all kinds of other stuff but they do like share a lot of germs. Lots with lots of it. He really felt like he was in love on that. That's that's my main real question. Yes okay yeah several times. Wow Four seasons. Yeah he has. A podcast is very successful. I know you asked me to be on it. Yeah Yeah you should be talking about this. Yeah well we we have I'm not going to divulge our source but we had someone really entrenched entrenched in the. Are you the one camp okay in some of the stuff. He told us that was happening. Sexually in that house was like a one guy. I like There's GonNa Graphics so Plug Yours. If you're timid he a European there was some digital insertion and show our muscular guy in the digital insertion then evolved into him lifting her up off the ground and like ten people or watching the monitors honors. It was all be in. Everyone's just like what's happening shower right now and I think that was very strong. Aw and she was an XY so don't worry about her because I'm a little concerned about the anatomy here but everything was on some island. There are some like threesomes and like the P eight like. WHO's sitting behind the camera or like just watching that also weird? Do you ever see the movie. Colors Sean Penn and Robert duvall yes. There's a moment in Sean Penn's a young police officer right. And he's Israeli tenacious and wants to go to everything and Robert Duvall says you know the story about the old ramming. The young man sitting on the top of the hill looking out at the valley full of sheep in the young Ram. AM says let's run down there and fuck one of those in the old one says. Let's walk down and fuck them all. It's like an old joe right and every time I'm watching are either one. I think a when I was young I would. I would have screwed up so bad on that show. I would've got there and I was slept with whoever was open to sleeping with me immediately and I would have not played any long-term game amy. I would have made a terrible name for myself right out the gates because I would have ran down but some of these other to find love on that show in theory. There's there's ten. There's ten boys ten girls and they have a perfect match there and they don't know who it is and they have to go on all these dates and then they declare who they think their matches at the end of every episode and they have to get all ten right to win the money. People never choose the right match for them as though clearly not or does beg the question. What Algorithms doing? Because you know there's who would be a good match for you. Generally not who people are attracted to ask. I mean you almost have to pick when you're older like on the opposite of what I like because the pattern that would I like ends in Monica and I have a similar thing and I can't imagine you suffer from it because you're very beautiful but Monica they go on yes. You're right as you root beer than we are. She was a model degree. You're gorgeous but on she was a Monico on. TRY TO DIG Yourself. No Ice Dam by you. You know whatever Monica and I will like somebody and then the second. That person likes us back. We realize Oh. They weren't as good as we thought they were all so they wouldn't like us. Uh Self Eight. Yeah like this weird. It's like a format self sabotage. I've done that before acted just. It's like an idiot on a first date and if they call me back I'm like what's your calling me back then clearly. I'm not going to like you because you like like that version of me here. Yeah well are you well first of all you're with so that's the only thing I really know. And he's He's as gorgeous as they got him yet is it is I. I Love Mellon I love their kids in it all worked out great but also a little regretful. You guys in just pop one out. Just see what that facial structure would have been like because I think it would have been really nice. We had some dogs. No No. You're a super young we matt when we're in nineteen and then we broke up twenty two you. You must have both felt like a safe port in a storm. Him being from Iowa each other we live together Opened that's your I. We travel like for Christmas. Must be do my house and then his house and but yeah same upbringing similar experience childhood and all that. Yeah and you're both in New York which is like arriving at the speed of light and at some time he must be like what the fuck am I doing here and also very similar in both Kinda get recommended to model in high school. Yes what happened to you. I graduated high school early and was getting in some trouble just because I was floundering around and waiting to go to college my mom entered entered me into I the Miss Teen South Dakota pageant and then to a modeling school in Omaha and that's where I got scout please tell me about the Miss Teen Pageant I just and my dad the VHS got shifted over to a DVD. which I won't even legacy and I watched it and it's very very difficult to watch because I'm so shy and so awkward mayors Soulard Talk like a sailor outfit and I submitted very last minute so I didn't have? You're supposed to have a certain a number of community service and a talent which I did not dance tap. Like all these girls are doing gymnastics and trailing batons and shit and I wrote a story about America and recited that a story. I wrote a fictional sterling one. And it's really sweep just heartbreaking to watch 'cause I'm just like shaking on stage and then my dad walks me down in my evening gown which was borrowed and had sleeves. It was just. It was hard. It was hard to watch. I didn't place you didn't place now. What was the vibe backstage was cut throat or was it supportive? I don't remember it being being cutthroat like you see on TV or whatever then my mom. Sarah spraying my hair and curling it. I just remember being super nervous. I'm kind kind of bummed because everyone's seem so intimidating and more accomplished and well they probably they'll probably wouldn't their first pageant. Oh no yeah start girl. The one was Chester Austin Anderson. She was gorgeous into a different high school than me and she Yet I wonder if she's a name. Your Child Chaston. You know she's going going to be a teen pageant right plan. You have a path for although I'm January Jones could be. Here's what you shared. Listen common which is a Bradley Cooper's birthday oh I only know this because I'm three days before Cooper January second you are yes and we were both named named after the worst but We're also both named after characters. In novels who is yours. DAX was the lead character of this book called the adventures by Harold Robbins that my mother read while she was pregnant with me that I've never read I did read once is not enough. It was by Jacqueline Susann. My mom read the book and then they made a TV movie with Kirk. Douglas and my MOM LOVES ROMANCE NOVELS. So my dad would peek through just for this experts. Sure any any saw that in January. Her name is January Wayne and he just thought that would sound good with Jones and then I happened to be born in January. 'cause they picked it up before I was even conceive. Yes I was going to ask you. Think they were a happy that it matched up. They were bombed they. Were hoping it'd be early Bernama due date. I'm very punctual. Yeah you were very on time here. I can't get around and I try to be late and I'm still I won there. That's great it's a good thing means you respect people's time kind of kid. Were you in high. School boys is pretty shy and studious and also like four eleven and flat trust the edge just was about how a bunch of friends and then something thing happened between freshman and sophomore year. Why went through purity lay and came back and I worked at Derek Summer Officer? Maybe I don't know but all of a sudden I had his parents kind. You love your favorite me too. I had had long hair and all of a sudden I had boobs and everyone was treating me differently in my guy friends this really. We taught your boobs and they were new to meet you. Yeah I guess it was a it was a different time. It was a different time. Well Yeah because asked asked. It's all about good congratulations right out of the oven. They got him to you know. Wow Yeah anyway yes so I just sort of. I was too shy to do theater and it was a little bit too scared to put myself out for judgment. Anyway I quit what tennis team freshman year. Which is super disappointed about so I mean I was good at school? I excelled in the curriculum not to knock South Dakota but was subpar. The COP yeah sure so I I have real average schools. Well yeah so I was through school and then graduated or you're early and and was like getting stoned drinking too much ensure trouble. I never went to jail. I mean knock on women pulled over and there's beer in the car and people are in trouble and One time I got pulled over I was drinking after squat skip. School and I was racing past another score on a cop pulled over. But he didn't have any tickets with them Can I go. He's like yeah didn't ticket. I've never heard he did. I WanNa give you a ticket. Because you're cute girl. He was looking for his tickets. He was in a car for a while. No one time I stole. We'll cigarettes from the grocery store. My Dad like new everywhere. Everyone there Randall's I went into get like laundry detergent urgent couple other things for my dad. Mom and while I'm here I'll just grab this pack cigarettes and I walk paid for the staff walked out and then the security guy came running out and push me up against my car. And he's like give me the cigarettes we all you do. It and I was like you who you're fine. So He's like I'm calling the cops and you just take it. Here's the money to like whatever. It just forgot to pay three bucks. He's like no and he was like kind of manly brought me back in the store. Call my dad called the cops. My Dad I was mortified. Do for a living he was the exercise. Says the allergist or no this. He's a trainer well-known around town and Super Awesome Guy Disaster Physique to kill for the kill for. Wow still sixty four. I wanted to have an instagram Graham account. He does he does. Is he ever in swimwear in it. Lots of fluorescence. I can't wait to get a peek and he like six five Mustache wars the crazy hike. Come from everyone's mom. Six seven dead spot. She's he's like my high earnings shorter. Okay I'm the tallest of the three daughters. How tall are you five? Seven or eight okay and I guess that's crazy talk. That was an exaggeration. I I think because I know you're a model. I I just assumed your five ten to short in the modeling world I was really short or you were. Yeah Anyway I went in and the cops came and in the guy was telling everyone how bad I was and what I did and my dad sitting there and he told me later it was only time ever wanted to hit me because I was just like mouthing off to the cop open the guy and I was like dude I was like. I'm glad you got your kicks for the day. Like I hope it was nice feeling up seventeen year old girl. Did that turn you on. This is the mountain right about big trouble for that. Stay stay tuned for more armchair expert if you dare. We are supported by Ziprecruiter. AL's broke Rueda. I haven't had. Oh good one Oldie but goodie now listen. It's a new year and it's a perfect opportunity to take your business to the next level now as we expand you know we're gonNA use ziprecruiter because it's the best way to find a super qualified candidate for a job ziprecruiter. 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I really had to think about it for six months and then get back up Obama but I wonder because you just admitted to being shy. was there a relief from that China's that anxiety for one hundred percent I have to catch myself constantly from doing it in like after parties. Things like were there are so many people around like because you just WanNa grab for or that sense of Dole all the share yeah and also just because it makes it makes me feel like more. Fun are willing to chatter away instead. Yeah good friend of Ours Gordon. Keith said everyone's born to Beers Kish to ear short of happiness and I was like. Oh that is the best evaluation. Though of us is the animals in this complex society. We all kind of need just like just to Kinda juice fucking dial. I think it's just dial it down a bit. It's just really overwhelming. You were designed in your lifetime at best reach thirteen miles an hour. If you were a fast aspirin or in your lifetime you might reach thirty miles an hour and then you probably drove eighty five miles an hour here on the way so just right there you're not an animal. You're not a cheetah that was designed to process information nation at sixty five miles an hour. So That's interesting. We are traveling faster than Cheetahs. But we didn't evolve kinds just going to speed into a cliff or maybe we just all have kind of like a base level of anxiety. Because it's all so rapid and the people in that you know. I think they have clearly. He demonstrated that depressions pandemic. It's not like unique. It's not one in Twani. It's like forty percent of people in America experience. He adds very high Monaco effect backcheck. But it's in that realm. Yeah ta I've even know most people don't go to therapy. I know that's what they don't have a good good accurate number but even like seuss even route. Yes so I remember one time reading early nineties. I moved to L. A.. I'd had sex with someone without a rubber right and as I often often did I hate to admit and I panicked and I went to a free clinic and like I need an AIDS test in the lady goes okay. I'll give you one. But have you had anal sex with a man or shut intravenous drugs and I go. No and she goes. I'm not supposed to tell you this this but you don't need to take this test. And then she goes. Read this article. In The New York Times and it was the data that had been released in of that data it was a really tiny percentage of people that really were just straight non drug users that were getting HIV in the mid nineties. And I looked at that data and I said well a shocking. I thought everyone was getting but more. So that's also people that weren't lying like certainly some of those people had had had intravenous drug use. It also claimed not to so the number. My mind was even probably lower than that. Because WHO's ready to admit they shoot dope right. I can't imagine a lot of people. This is a very dicey thing I just said but it is all what happened. Walk Yeah just circle background. You're seeing the most people are not admitting it saying if forty percent of America's admitting they have depression haunches sixty five percent. Yeah Yeah So. I just think it's really all known. What the cumulative effect of rain at this point I think that having if it is that big of a number then there is some sort of community in that and I think that's good that people can talk about it? I just played character who is bipolar depressive and it was very hard just because I don't feel sad very much which is good. I mean it's Day by day but I I have. I don't have that you don't have the mood swings since hormonally. Maybe occasionally but yup it was. Hormonal was a nice way to say yeah for Muslim and it helps to have PMS. No Yeah no oh. This isn't my normal day again. My period I'm like Holy Shit. Yeah I'm so sorry I have to go to make amend the most a crippling aspect of those low points is the belief in those moments that it's GonNa last forever that's really the agony of it. It's the craving to not be in that state into no. Oh it's that in it'll end. There's got to be comfortable at some level on a couple of months ago. I had a really bad. PMS Bad Cycle Michael Guys it. We're getting evacuated from the neighborhood and I was like yeah and I was feeling anxious us and sad and tired and I was like what is happening. Something's happening but I didn't know what it was. I just felt like like I needed to get out of my own skin and then I got my period and I was like what that's what it was. It was a huge relief that something was actually wrong with me. I mean going through menopause. But I don't think GAM and then I remembered so when I had my son they took my placenta and when you Google my name it says Jerry Jones did you have it over. A panay or Linguini smooth would see my fucking placenta. She took it. My my sister's boyfriend took it in a cooler and she made into vitamins and then she made a tincture like with the oils. That are Levian and you take it every day. If you're tired or you can take it all the way up some pause and I remember I had that and I've been taking that and I haven't had any pam something never got sad after my son was born. Aw Yeah I really believe that. Kristen eight the capsules. Yeah I did the Kaslo. She didn't get a tincture though. I'll she got gypped. And maybe my my sane this. It's now your analysis gypped anymore Gypsies. It's a reference to Gypsies. Right looking fucked. They asked me what Fox News the other day and I was like. It's it's means fornication on her consent of the King and he was like Oh so I can use it and I was like no not at school for hold on headline either or is that just a funny thing or is it. Someone told me that decades ago maybe my GRANDPA. He's a golf means. Gentlemen only ladies forbidden like there's all these oh my goodness take. Unless he's lucky he's still alive ninety two. I can double justice gory. Movies made it to ninety two. They don't you ever wonder we're fucked came from I do do I do but it is. It's a real cure. All Fuck. It'd be hard for me to explain to my daughter's what fuck is because it means virtually everything for me Explain fornication but sure that's fine. Yeah girl I have a boy. He's eight he loves them. An were jamming out to like Eminem on the way to school. And it's a lot I swear words and I just tell them there's creative license when you sing sure and don't ever say bitch good stupid. Those are my main two that I don't like says says the word and the F. where he's actually quite clean if you listen to them compared to some we we respect about eminem. Emma's just how fast he is and how he just is. He's yeah he's really great. His music is in what also makes great. TV or movies in that. You have no clue what's coming next. Like none of nothing predictable about his right any really. It's like yeah really clear. He says that in the song or listen to this morning lucky you he makes a joke about robbers now. That he's like Robin Roberts. Bob Can't understand me. Whatever throws a little shake hey and then he says I'm throwing shade? Oh Hi ed you can't you can't get him and can't get himself awared. Squared he Do you mind see idol. I personally don't mind having those conversations with my girls do you mind no I. I love him to ask questions. I love him to be able to talk to me about anything and I try not to ever lie. I'll be brief about my explanations. I won't elaborate if I don't feel like I need to. Because he's a boy and I raised them by myself. I want want him to be a little feminist. And but just yeah just have someone. That's not going to pander to his emotions too much but also let him let them out if he needs to. Yeah it's it's hard. It's a hard balance. Yeah backups. Balancing is a single mother and all worked out for me relatively well. I just have to lower my register for I really want is attention because I can say his name Nineteen Times. But if I'm like Zander what watch. And then my dad said it's because men tune Out Higher registers part of true. Tammy mainly a lot of gas lighting in happening. I'm comfortable with like sexto. No problem all this kind of stuff. The way the world works. I'm I'm fine with the only ones that freaked me as I don't want to introduce stuff fat. Say like when we were kids. The threat of nuclear Holocaust was quite real. Wasn't what I was worried. That was being kidnapped. Yes me too. I was very scared. You guys could really Stephen or whatever the fuck remember that was about the little boy who got Stephen who can have. Stephen would follow famous kidnappings in the news cycle. That's my main. I love the drama Nathan. Yes yes with my brain in a way that when when they did that documentary last year on the twentieth anniversary and they got all the best forensic science in the world to common say what. They felt so clear what happened but yeah brother. Brother killed her accident and then the parents covered it up because they didn't realize that he was only nine what had happened so he wouldn't have been tried for murder anyway because in Colorado. You can't be to your ten wowing. ooh ones already gone. We don't want to lose that. Which is Italy? I'm just learning pineapple milk so he bashed over the head of the flashlight. Because that's what they've found still on her like. Oh I'm so what's fascinating documentary. Yes twenty twenty. Maybe one of the media were existed and then the brother and the dad who are still alive. They went to mum's. The mom passed away of cancer. I kinda soon after right. Yeah Yeah Yeah but I don't know if the sun even though he is adamant that wasn't the case yeah but his memory is whatever he was nine yes if they said you you did this. And he's not incarcerated or anything. This isn't behavior. He is replicated if in fact that is what happened. I mean sometimes kids just fucking friends. It's like yeah. Oh Yeah my sister and dropped her on her head and their driveway. Yeah does it the wrong way. Exactly exactly yeah I gotTa say if that is the exact case I would have zero interest in prosecuting. Those parents for covering up to save their. Canine yeah I know it gives you a huge empathy towards them but it was so elaborate and the fact that they were going after other people right it goes to show. I just read recently this book about about the birth of forensics detective work in France and like eighteen hundreds and every time there was a serial killer that was just kind of wandering from village to village and back. Then no-one communicated gated. There was no phones something would happen this village and then the guy would be gone and they would have no idea that happened in both other villages but every time he would leave basically the community would just go like who do we all kind. Hey and they'd convince themselves that that person did it so the real tragedy of it was all these other people that end up getting kind of prosecuted or killed or vigilante justice and they were wrong long. And we're wrong. All the time stuff makes sense even with Bundy and stuff he just change states no state communicated with each other right but the jonbenet thing. There's there's so many great red herrings in it I started with. I can't relate to having a kid that you dress up an adult clothes and have focused on that because they said that brought in sexual predators or something this cement quote unquote seem in that they found in her underwear was so miniscule. They said that it came from the manufacturer in like Asia. We're the UNDERWOOD is made of a so little like a women's here the it was just human. DNA Not hers. Oh not seeming. I don't think couldn't I mean you have to watch. I watch like three times so you okay but when we were kids. I'm slightly older than you but not much there was a movie a TV movie movie called the last day fuck. I'll remember the name of it but it was about Russian the US having a huge nuclear event. And it's the only thing my mother. I was allowed to look at Playboy's at the dinner table at like eight years old. She didn't care so he has naked. People are would not let me watch that and I was. I'm grateful to it. Because what a thing to be worrying about eight years old like these two superpowers have all these. That's out of your hands why she doesn't need to tell you exactly so. There are certain concepts that are very scary even to adults that I'm probably not excited to talk about. Yeah I don't have solutions. I Guess Lake shootings or I could talk about the school shootings. I don't i. Don't try to just educate them on what to do. If we're on a plane or a movie theater in the mall I always like nowhere. Your exits are yeah run hide. Whatever if something bad happens without going into too much detail just like a video game something? I just don't want him to not be prepared if I go the other way I go. Yeah that happened. It's horrific. It's a really horrific sickness that we have in this country also. How often do you worry about getting struck by lightning? Not Very often right. You're struck by lightning golfing or in the water. Okay so you actually worry about it. I'm never ever ever thinking about getting struck by lightning ever. I'm not worried about getting attacked by a bear. I'm not were you know. All these low percentage things right in fact more people get hit in the head with coconuts on vacation and diving get attacked by bears. But when you're walking in the woods you're consumed with the idea. You're going to get attacked fiber so I just think sometimes odds are really helpful in mitigating. uh-huh odds like so. He loves bears right now. He is concerned about that. I just told him what to do. If we're ever somewhere where a bear mountain lion comes make yourself really big big port. Your gun shall aim for the like eyeball. I Swim Sharks for Oh Chiena do Shark Conservation Association staff and I swim with them to do videos and stuff and he wants to start doing that. But since we've been talking about sharks we watch shark week and stuff in the ocean. He does like get worried about going out you. I assure given the tools and stuff and then also give him a percentage like you're more likely to die from a vending machine than a shark attack. And then he goes to a vending machines like you do it. Backfired on the big one is. How often are you worried driving into school in the car and that is the biggest odds number that you're gonNA get killed in the car and you're not too worried about it so let's just keep getting shies like a real well? It's becoming the real thing it needs to be solved and you should have an appropriate level of fear over it because there's no but there's no reason he's in for you to amplify the fear in your head. I don't think I'm amplifying it within him where he's thinking about it right. I don't think that you. Aw I mean I hope not. I mean we're in a theater and I'm like exit. Sorry he's like yeah. They're they're do you think about it when I do I do. I'm a mom like constantly worried some like a piano fall the window New York. I don't know like it's worry too much. Do you think you had that before. You had kids About certain things I have this Fear of fear like I. I'm I was afraid of sharks. Soy started diving with sharks. I was afraid of heights so I went skydiving with Qatar once. I just need to do it once face it. Can we dive into the sharks bit Pun. Intended is the most dangerous shark. You've swam in proximity to not in a cage. We don't do great whites and stuff in cages because that sort of defeats the purpose of visually having a cage. 'cause the whole saying is we should be afraid for sharks of and me in a cage. Hardly format awesome. But they're fascinating and I would love to if I did great whites. I think I would still do it even as a mom without a cage. If I was is comfortable with the Shark in question how would you know if the people that I was with new. The shark swept the same sharks a lot. And they're like this girl sweet. And what's this thing. Obviously if you're this shark's you've seen this thing where they can hypnotize sharks tonic analysis. That's when he flipped the shark when it's on Orcas do they bump it and they've flips it over vermonter sharks on its back. It goes into this translate state they either sink or just float. I've done it with tagging like the small shirks flip them over and then they're just limp. You can tag going to measure them and you are really also. He was hitting them on the nose. In a weird way back was a happy line of Lorenzini as little. You can't live Lorenzini. It's like they're six cents. So have you had any dicey calzone you were in there with sharks counter your movement. Only at one time. It was human era though so I was on A. We're in Binney in the Bahamas and we're trying to get some shots with just some reef sharks nurse in Lemon Sharks just reef sharks and the people on the boat where the cameras were around me and they wanted to chat with me like surrounded by sharks. So they're chumming the water which you're not supposed to do and like traumas hitting me the head so I was like dudes. It's like I'm being a safe as I can possibly be and if you're a spokesperson loses limits probably my campaign. Yeah ahead if I could find it off my head but if I lose like a little bland years sure did you panic at all. No I'd taken a Beta blocker. Okay because the low is your heart rate bright keeps it study. Yeah and that's amazing for shark diving because they sent your heart rate rising and that's when they you think you're prey. Oh my God. How can they sent your heart rate? Might have some new ambulance Lorenzini their sixth sense and they can sense fear. You know people well. I won't speak for everyone. I of course had the fantasy of taking on a French love. I've never got to do that right and I want them to speak. Speak French the whole time sexy. I think if I went on a date with you and I learned that you could say that word I would really want you to say it as often as possible in a romantic setting Monica. Do you WanNa Frenchman to speak to you in French. No I'm the only one of the only humans in America who's not taken by accents like I don't like accent. Well it depends on the accent. I don't like any of them. I don't like British myself. The quota accident comes out or you're going to be Alfred also like American contracted to actress by the accent. Yeah you know people like girls love a British accent so penelope. Cruz isn't prettier. Because of the way she talks no no in fact in spite of because I grew up around a lot of axons that I didn't like I'm sure that's why the Hillbilly Hillbilly accent. Yes Yeah No. I'm not turned on my accent. I well that's not true. There's a few that are really dynamite. Okay like Oh it's not a hillbilly accent. But it's southern accent Harry Connick Junior. Like oh my Gosh Maple Syrup drip off his. You can hear his vocal vocal cords but there are some really charming southern accents like the dude. Hell Billy those hillbilly try the guys. The Duck Duck Dynasty Duck Tales Smelt accents do a hillbilly accent like took a French lover. Once I had a hard time understanding see like you need to understand. They'll she could be seeing anything anything. Wash my clothes overdone. Clean up the house and I would just think it was so erotic. If you've heard Bradley Cooper speak French. Second talking about him because you have. It's phenomenal. I was at a talk with him. That agreed I went with him to like a talk. Show in Paris. A comedic nighttime talk show and not only was he just conversing with everyone will. He was making jokes with the right timing and everything and they were all dying laughing. Does that not so no no no I do like that that if someone has an American accent and they just happened to be able to speak a lot of languages that just shows like Oh you have a good work ethic. They're just were cultured in their worldly. Learning French oh he'll be a Bradley Cooper tight. Ah Fingers fucking cross okay so you went into the teen pageant and then someone must have said I think you should do modeling after the pageant I went to a modeling school in Omaha Nebraska and the lady her hooks me up with an agent in New York and then I could my parents that I could go oh after a turn eighteen side wait till I was eighteen so three days after a turn eighteen. I flew to New York. Yep you're on your way and then you worked plenty as a model Enough I mean. I did commercial stuff. I couldn't do runway and things like that uh-huh couldn't walk in that. Okay but could you do that crazy. Walk they do. It's a very specific. Lean different in the nineties than it is in the nineties. It was more of a straightened out. I mean if you've ever been to a runway show like a couture run ratio. They look like insects like almost prance. Horses like the courses behind them. Yeah it's like Serena being ill it looks like and the probability of looking ridiculous is quite high like I think the leap to make to do that. Walk is on par with someone trying to do like a of a bio pic of someone famous. Well I'm not saying that it takes as much I'm just saying talk about you've got to fully commit or not you. Can't that walk halfway. Yeah but I've been on a lot of runway shows as a spectator and seen like the awkward fifteen sixteen year old girl who just is just ganglion the an awkward. But it's like you look at her walk like No. She's trying to walk in the shoes right. 'cause with two replicating are they selling like a nubile. Fawn who can't find its legacy EXAC- There's so many of them that walk that way that that's like the thing okay but I wonder if anyone's aware of what subconsciously happening are they is that you know what I'm saying and then every once in a while you'll see one and they're like me as well buckle fall. Oh Wow are those on youtube rabbit hole. They've all they've all done it. Campbell's taken on trump shit. That's scary end get hit by a car. Roll out into the street was two or three died but just logistical. Is there like a lot of money and runway modeling for some of them for sure. Yeah one thousand of the show okay. That's a nice more depending like your supermodel or whatever right I I was. I was only in one runway show and it was in Paris and I was like so excited to get cast and runway show and none of those shoes fit me. 'cause I've tiny feet so they're like just send her out barefoot Oh so not only. It was shorter than everyone else by foot. I wasn't wearing shoes so I was just blake paddling out there. Oh humiliating alienating stay tuned for more armchair there we are supported by stamps. Dot Dot Com. 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Who Has Autism Delivers Her dad's eulogy and ends up making it all about her? Which is actually kind of adorable? While genevieve shows up dressed like a child Hor widow. She said that not me and their half brother Nicholas ends up turning the funeral into a date. Very classy move. I know the whole dad. Dying thing sounds depressing but the show is actually really fun to watch. Everything's GonNa be okay. Premiers January sixteenth at eight thirty seven thirty central on free form. Okay so you end up in New York you meet Kush doctor. When does it transition into into acting? Even before I got here I was trying to do commercial work here so I go back and forth and I met my commercial agent Robin Levy here and she was on the same floor. Four of the building as Gold Miller. Jimmy Maher Oh so. She introduced me to Jimmy Miller and Paul Nelson and they took me on a project I met Jimmy made him laugh and he's like let's see what we can do with her and I started working like right away. No kidding never had to take a complimentary job. Oh that's lucky lucky. Liking Jimmy was my manager for a short period time and I adore him. He's right and they're still my managers. These are so. Can I just ask when you read. Read the pilot of Madman. Was it obvious to you that it was madman or was it like. I don't know this good but the writing was beyond beyond anything I've ever read before it was so good that I didn't think anything would happen with it. I think oh meaning. They wouldn't get made. I didn't think it would be on the pilot. None of us did his also. AMC had never done a TV show does just a very big risk so much so that I was willing to take it because I didn't WANNA sign a seven year contract with the TV show. I was doing films in having fun but I was like. Let's do it and I initially auditioned for Peggy with mosses role and did a couple additions for that. It down to the two of us. Obviously she got Peggy and he was like. Yeah but I wanNA use you for something so overnight. He wrote a role for me for betty ready to scenes and had me read it and had me read it twice and then I signed the contract just with a promise verbal promise that there would be a role for her if the show got picked up right. That's risky sometimes. It was just it was signing seven year contract with just a promise not even knowing if I liked the show or the character or any. It's amazing though because she's a huge enormous on. AMC wants a dig it picked up. AMC and Lionsgate were super-resistant showing Don's domestic side interest. I don't know but that's the point. The humanizes him a bunch. That had never seen that part of his life. I don't think he would have been as likeable well. It could have gone either way. You could make him either more sympathetic or you could meet Betty Fall in love with Betty and start hating the lead of the show like why is this guy cheating on her nose stuff. It's it's risky fourth. I mean people. Mostly I feel like sided with dom. Well that's the nature of story right. Whoever are expressed hero is we don't give a fuck right? I was watching. Did you watch the loudest voice on Showtime it was the Roger Ailes story you know personally I think. Roger Ailes was vomiting human being in obviously politically. I don't think like him yet. I got sucked into that show and I like wanted him to get vindicated. I wanted Fox News to be number one and I was sitting there and I said to Monica Mike. fucking power story. I want this. Because he's my leap. They said that you're the Zulia following and now I'm rooting for them right. It's so powerful. Yeah but there's also also super likable things about him. He's like Super Broken Guy. Yeah Well Don Draper not. I don't think you would see the depths. So how broken and complicated he is. If you don't see him at home you need that juxtaposition yarder to really know like oh he's fucked worked up fornication under the consent of the king. I hope that we will find out really really reprimanded if you stop to think about how why. The show was magic outside of the obvious things that it was like like incredibly well written incredibly well acted beautifully. Shot all these elements. Have you tried to isolate. What do you think it was about Madman Adleman? That was so captivating. I think it's twofold. I mean I think that people love the nostalgia aspect of it. Sure ain't going back to that time where things seemed like simpler and better and more glamorous but also the win it started. Airing was in the middle of the Obama campaign and I just felt very parallel to where the world was at uh-huh and like having a a a hope in the country and in just the opposite down as the show went on for whatever it went like nine years or something. It just seemed to parallel where we were going like. That time in the sixties was very similar to what was happening. I think for like a guy this is terrible to say but I'll just say I think there is some fantasy that I think it's why I've been obsessed with artist growing up as like there's this fantasy that I if I provide this one thing like if I'm a musician I can write this amazing song. Il Excuse all of my head I can faulk drink take pills do everything. I won't be unaccountable. Not Show up you Shitty Dad. But I've made this music and that'll whitewash the whole thing so there was something gene about going like. Oh this guy's fucking everyone. He's drunk all the time but he's earning and he's providing and there was a time when that was enough yeah and there's something selfishly hedonistic about like. I wish I could just get away with all that. Yeah I mean I definitely started to see people because I love my favorite restaurants Houston's and I go the one in century city I would go there every Monday because my favorite soups the neurons red beans and rice cycle every Monday. Get a grilled artichoke in the soup. And I'd sit at the bar and as the show went on I started seeing people have like cocktails at lunch and then they like not at me like I'm like cool. They go great like whatever like it was brought back sort of romantic ideal that we should slow down a little bit the pace okay so the show took people by surprise at first slow it was slow and when everything was speeding up and just starting to speed up the show like no. We're slowing back down down. And I think a lot of people like that about two just having drinks and when we'd go to an after party at an word ceremony they'd put the madman table outside. Just assuming we're all going to smoke our asses is off well again. That was part of what I'm saying like. Oh I long for the time when you just smoke not worrying about cancer right. Yeah Yeah I wonder I wonder. What the Female appeal the female appeal to the show. It's called Madman but I think the strongest characters are women now for sure I mean the things they overcome the thing to do. It's super empowering for women's watch that show you're totally right you're totally right and it really. Man is a good sense of what obstacles in their things in the office. With Peggy and Joan or whatever doesn't hasn't changed very much yeah I think it was this relatable legs. Everybody seeing this. This is still happening right. Yes shining a light on it. Yeah I was in an elevator once and I and some guy something about some girl's skirt behind me and I was just like you kidding like it was so madman I was like. Is he saying this for me. Like design I'm here right didn'- And I was like you had to say something I was like. You can't say that to her and she was like thank you. Oh wow good job for you. Yeah where did you shoot that. We started here downtown. La Center studios because we had to build all the sets we use Pasadena for the OSSINING NEW YORK. And then we use the biltmore downtown. A Lotta Frank we used a lot of old places here and then the exterior New York stuff was just computers. Right when you drive downtown and you go pass those places. Do you get a very warm feeling or A. I'm glad it's over. What's the feeling you get a very warm feeling? Oh good good I just went sue On Friday night there regarding the designers had a prom they have eighties prom every year. And they have it at the Biltmore so it was pretty in pink this year. So I'm I'm in a eighties pink outfit and I go down the the famous scene in when he comes down on Valentine's Day down those steps I did it in the eighty. Uh No I love it. Yeah it was amazing time amazing time so you got nominated twice. You got a Golden Globe to Golden Globe. Nominations ends an emmy nomination. I guess tell me what that experience is like. Because I've obviously never been nominated for anything. Truly WanNa podcast very proud of but much deserved by the way I mean it was unexpected. I just didn't when we first got her first Golden Globe nomination. It was the year of the writers strike so there was no ceremony. So we just all got together the Chateau and we were listening to it on the radio. Come in and John won best actor in the show won by show. So we're like Oh my God. Aw sure getting away. Yeah way it was. He won but he didn't even get to like accept it. Oh my gosh so but it was really fun. It was really fun party and then after that we always had our parties There afterwards it just snowballed into this big thing and all of a sudden people were. You're watching 'cause after the first season aired I gotta remember I was on the four zero five in I got a cau- by Four or five and sunset. I've such a vivid memory and this woman says Hi mistruths I've got Jack. Nicholson for you and I was like sweep okay. I did a movie with him. Called Anger Management and he was always super. I played a lesbian porn star running or management but he would always just come over and he noticed that I wasn't. I'm going to look at my takes. He's like I see you're not watching yourself and I'm like no I can't I I. He's like well. I used to be that way to do the voice because I- Melania critic which I think you are too and I was like yeah. He's like we'll just go and look and you can change it. You don't have to listen to the director and I was like all right. And and then he called they just said he had watched the whole first season. Not Realizing it was me until he bothered her look at the credits and was like blown away and he wanted to call and St Nice things and he did many he said if I ever wanted like a mentor like five or wanted to have advice or whatever I should talk to him so right after that I I did the cover of interview magazine and they always have a celebrity interview. You you for that and I was so cool of Jack would do it. And they're like no. I wouldn't do that so I called him. And he's like yes I will do that. Oh so he set up this whole thing at his house. Sort of like this except he just had a little rock quarter and we just didn't want anyone from the magazine there. He had a whole stack attack of questions sitting there and lunch and stuff and he had all these questions lovely and he's just like he's like I just want you know the reason I did. This is because I just don't want you to tell people to many things about you. Because then they won't believe you in the role and if you have to do press which you shouldn't right but I know you're contractually obligated that you you should just either lie or just be very brief and mysterious. What her stand so I will? He would ask me a question. I would give a brief the answer and then he would go on to tell me a corresponding story of his own. That went on for like a half an hour. He's like shirks. Tell Elliott this story. I Hate Shark win so I had to go out and I swam from point doing all the way out to the book the buoy and back thinking attacked and fine. They had all these stories. He cut it all out all his own stories of course but it was really cool thing that he did. Well let me ask you something. No is there any any part of your brain. That's going he wants to sleep with me. No maybe it should never never never got that vibe. From him. Only recently only at a dinner party it was only a couple years ago. Someone said something to him about me because we're sitting next to each other and chatting China in and he's like world friends or whatever and one of his guy friends was said something like a joke about dating. He looked at me really quizzical. Like I never did do that did I am. I was like no forgotten now. You're you're at an age where I could not even on the rails. I might be getting getting older. I guess you know what it is so often when we hear the word mentor and it's offered by some older actor. It's it's a real red red flag but this is a great story this is. I'm very naive to that too. I never had that feeling. I never felt unsafe. I was in his home alone and and never had add that boy. I I gotta say of of all the people that we've got to meet or be around. He's the guy that I'll I've many any times. been walking off the floor of the Lakers in the tunnel. And you're with him and I look at him and I'm dislike. I couldn't begin to say hi to him. I'm so intimidated mandated by him. He really is in some weird zone in my mind of just other level other otherworldly. Yeah yeah he's a a normal dude he's not a regular guy but he is been. He has been very helpful to me. 'cause I after madman ended and I got offer for last man on earth like I was just like people are only going to remember me as betty and he said that the worst thing he's like well you got to keep working. He's like people people only know me from like the joker or the shining even get scripts and I'm like yes. I believe how we see. We are all people. Stories are so funny because I remember. I actually told this story when I interviewed but when I was dating kate and got to hang out with Kurt Russell. Aw He would tell me all the time like a lot. I'd never get fucking recognized if I wasn't married Goldie but I'm always with Goldie and everyone knows her and then they figure out it's me and I'm like that in in your mind. That's the truth isn't it and we just see ourselves differently. Yes yeah you know what's funny is I actually thought of you thought of you when when you started last man on earth is you know it's our that was our favorite comedy for like three. You said that that's so cool when people say hof genius level comedy as far drugs. Listen I'm so smart. Funny we all I love it. We love it. We loved it but I thought of you and I was like man. I'm envious of you being on madman and yet I would be so overwhelmed with the decision decision of what's next. It's so stressful. Because you have all this cachet people want you. You're also realize it's got a time stamp on it like it. Will you know after after however many years that that won't be. This is a stressful time to make a decision. Isn't it. Yeah I mean my agent pushed me into that a bit. 'cause I got the offer for last man while we're we're still wrapping up madman and I was super scared to do it for me just as a person it was the right thing to do for my soul to go do comedy do something fun where I'm just laughing all day and be a just in a different atmosphere and then when they said shoots in Chatsworth was like like twenty minutes from my house old. Yeah Old Pretty Leo where it shoots. Is Everything Kristen I. It's just an option for us to be gone for for eight months of the year. Whatever just did Sean Toronto from January till May and it was so cold and so foreign and bring my son take him out of school? It was just very hard it all around. Yeah what was that. Not The politician all politicians shot here. Okay so that was. I wasn't in very much of it. So that was reas- is that this one was spinning out which comes out January first okay net flicks okay spinning out about figure skating and bipolar depression forest crisanto. That'll trope boy. I've seen that a thousand times if I gotTA watch one more goddamn series about bipolar. I'm going to give to skate in it. I play sort of like a Tonya harding. A mom figure skater and I have two daughters. I don't know if I get a job where I don't have to slap my kid. Ah that's your career. Goal is to be in some abuse a child on. You're the you're the big the big fish. Yeah Yeah I don't yeah right. Let's talk about that. This is a lot of pressure. Yeah Yeah Yeah so not. Nearly on the scale as yours is but when parenthood ended. I'm like I'm getting offered now to be the the only person or one of two people things and I was like. I've I have done this before. I've made these mistakes before like I was in an ensemble without a paddle great and then immediately needed to be lead to something and then you know I've never had that wish ever I mean I just I don't know that I have the motivation or the drive to want to be that person. I'm not married to the job enough to really want to worry about that. Doc is that something that is a product of having a child or have. You always been this way. I've always been that way. Oh it wasn't something that I ever aspired to be a real away. If I failed or about audition it rolled off my back. Oh it didn't bother me like 'cause there was always a reason. Mother was told to me my agent on our manager. Or whatever like you're not right for this because this and I was like sure that's fine. I never went home crying after something. It's also the truth. I tried to tell this to Monaco. The she's not listening. But the fact that you were up against Elizabeth Moss for Peggy. I can't imagine you being Peggy Aggie because no me neither did anyone other than Elizabeth Moss rank Peggy. You might delivered it perfectly but then just the packaging. You're like well. I don't know that that all this other story we're gonNA tell on top of the exact same sense it nothing to do with your performance at all it's just no more succinctly just said you're too pretty to play Peggy uh-huh right in that can just that's can but I am. I supposed to be upset about that. Like I don't know then write me something interesting where I can can. Yeah look the way I look. I don't know yeah but most people leave those auditions and They they did what they wanted to do. And then they don't get it so then nate they start thinking like well. Maybe the thing I think I do well is not it and I need to refine what I'm doing and I'm like no if you know what you're doing are you can and find your voice and be you leave it at that and then you're going to be right or wrong for some stuff. Are- draft why was just had in the back of my mind that I wasn't going to be the and this job for a long like I'm going to do this going to be fun and then I'm GonNa go be a Marine biologist and get married have kids or live with my parents or whatever it is like I i. I wasn't worried about plan B.. I had my things that I could do or meteorologists. I got all kinds of things I wanted to still do by the way. Yeah have you ever guest meteorologist. No but I used to be obsessed with unsolved mysteries. Robert Stack member. Oh until Mr yes. I was scared of that. Show I wanted to you that guy so badly and and this is like January Jones reporting live from the tornado. Like I just wanted to be a mystery to know it kills me by the way of my weather Woman was January Jones. I would call bullshit. I'd be like that's not her name. January Jones all of a sudden. What about what really Dallas rainless ways but but again I immediately go? He made that name up but he may really be named Dallas Raines. I doubt it. But what if he was or there's another guy like stormy Daniels or no. That's yeah she should become a meteorology on the street. I Ah Oh boy oh boy. I renamed myself January snow okay. Do you let Keith Morrison. I know the name what does He. He's one of the league guys on Dateline. Oh yes silver her Fox yes they do or Dan Rather Tom Brokaw causeways. My favorite Tom. Bro- from South Dakota by. Yeah he's on the state shirt with me and are you. Are you as directed to them. Yeah just because they seem really smart and they they imbued confidence too. That's why they're good at it. They make everyone feel safe. They can deliver w very scary information but in a very calm way and you feel very even register. Yeah Yeah Yeah. It's hot voice. Yeah who's is your dream may currently like Ricky Gervais as or. Oh Wow that's a good wall is going to be thrilled. Costed sit him at an awards. You're not having it. You're kidding it was really nervous thing. He was supposed Globes or something. Oh Buzzed Stephen Merchant. And I was like get me in there right now super nervy all my gosh. I'm so thrilled with Chris. Christly is Louis. He's Australian comedian. He did summer heights. High Lunatics plays all those characters. It sounds like you like people people who who are thinking I like that kind of probably have some overlap. Yeah Data Comedians. It's not wise choice taking me laughs. The biggest thing. Yeah well you have to be smart to make them on that. Yes exactly. Did these comedians fall into the stereotypical. They were quite depressed at home even though they're are funny onstage or funny tortured sort of. There's some consistency in my experience on that. Yes yeah can be thing. So what is the title of Your New Show Spinning out spinning out and it's January first day before my birthday. Four days before your birthday. I'm very Dec- you play bipolar. I got immersed into twit more than any other character so much so that when I got home I had to cut my hair off clean on my closets. I got rid of all my clothes. I couldn't shut her. I was was messing with me. What was the way in? Like what did you did you watch interviews with people who have it or D- what was the Iran books and I went on blogs Augsburg chat rooms and and talk to a lot of people who are suffering from that and. What are the hallmark signs of that? I mean it's just dramatic ebbs and flows right highs and lows in fits of grandeur and fits. The most interesting thing I read was that women are prone to bipolar disorders. It just all of us have that in us some just similar to men in like. Add whether it's hormonal or not like we have yet is on those but not not not to minimize that. But I don't know it was. It was really difficult just to do like the manic. I understand why people don't want to take the medication because it evens Out So and so have those amazing amazing manic episodes where you have so much energy. You don't WanNa Sleep. You're you're the best at what you do. A lot of creative people have it. It's worth that right. It's worth having the month-long suicidal depression for some reason which is crazy. Kansas shame you can't just take it when you feel shitty and then let it go wild when you love it in its use. Well the only thing I can say in of course totally different setting but when they went and joined the ranch I was playing a guy with. PTSD that had just gotten out of the military couple years before. And I was like fuck. I now like if I play a guy flipping hamburgers and I do it. Bad sound like hamburger flippers. In America are going to be like misrepresented us but I feel some real moral obligation to not make a cartoon version of what these guys are going through and this is just even on a simple comedy and I imagine if I'm the lead of the whole thing and it is a drama. I think I'd feel it even more just that kind of responsibility that people suffering to do with justice. Let's way the people that are related to or suffering from it will be happy. Oh good but when when we were doing eighty are afterwards. There was a lot of sound stuff that we had to fix. Because of the ice skating rinks and all this stuff and I just flat out refuses to do stuff and they hey me for that but you had to stand my ground. I was like if I can't hear this noise issue. The you say there is no one else is going to hear it. I've had the same battle unlike in a manic state with a toothbrush like bawling crying. I'M NOT GONNA be able to men like do that in eighty our students. It's so unfair. I remember like probably the biggest seen I had in. Parenthood was joy and I her finally saying she wanted to resume getting married. It was like the whole my whole character thing added up to this moment and it had to be raining out. So there's a rain machine above us in those things are fucking noisy and it was like the the most emotional best seen that I had on the show and then I get called in there. Yeah they're like well. We can't hear you over the rain thing and I'm like I can't get get to where I was without joy right here without the whole all the environment and everything. I just realized my position in the show and just stood by ground around right. Yeah I'm glad no but the guy the sound guy who's in Canada by the way I'm in the room I myself the director producers. No one was there. He started talking down onto me and like. Oh you can't do it again and I was like I said you're disrespecting me in Europe patronizing me. You're not here so you're watch me walkout this room to me. I like this spunky I yeah yeah. We're getting a little well well January. Thank you so much for coming and I look forward to the next time. We're at Zimmerman's house. We have come across the street. I mean this. The boy handsome is a is a handsome boy. My son Yes. Yeah okay. Good Good Cooper type learning Bradley's and sex myself to make him good job as sexual reproduction. was January. We're just we're really flattered that you liked the show. I love it so much has learned so much by listening to it. Oh that makes us so happy. Favorites are the doctors. And I was GonNa do this saying that. I all like super smart scientists and physician like I was GonNa do today. I forgot when they're really smart. And they're telling you something they assume you don't understand they say okay lot so so so I did this role okay. And she's bipolar okay U.. Also if you you hear now just trying to wait for you to catch up but clearly. You're not going to say okay. Okay Hey what an interesting observation. I Really WanNa look for that now. But yeah you're right if you're going like well the way that we know that stars are burning carbon. Is You know when light it gets admitted we can spectral analysis okay so you know that different wavelengths for every color okay. Yeah you're right. They got to check in like. Are you still with me taking time. Why it's the condescension enough to pay attention? I've never noticed new proclivity doing on. Ah well modeled really quick. Do you think that the I have a chip on my shoulder up people thinking I'm dumb but the whole dyslexia thing and is because model at one point because I think coacher has admitted to me too that the thing he wants quickly for people to understand is that he's intelligent and I have to imagine 'cause that label. Why do I feel like not necessarily because I was a model that because people find attractive that they assume one thing that I haven't bothered to learn anything but at the same time there have been moments in my career where I've used their assumption that I don't have a brain tumor advantage? Sure I mean the DITZ car. Does this works sometimes especially in negotiating things because then you sweep in or mind control them or whatever it is it works and dating as well. Tell US Surrey. You could never play dumb. Well I don't have the other thing to be able to fall back on that but people just don't they preferred further. You didn't right so when you're talking about ambulance Lawrenson me super bombed out well. We Adore you in January. First we're going to be watching your your show and I'm excited to see this hungover people. Yeah that'll be great coming for the New Year some bipolar and you'll be able to ice skating binge it right out of the gates so delicious I love you guys and now my favorite part of the show. The fact check with my soul mate Monica Batman Adleman. Welcome to the fact that we have a new person in the. We're not in the attic today. Where my trailer again awesome field trip? But there's a new member of the team. Google Homa finally which is going to alleviate all of our problems when we're trying to get fast answers to questions in the middle of these debates. We have so our new friends already here. Hey Google how tall is DAX. Shepard Dax Shepard is six feet two inches tall bingo go out smartphones. What Day really? Because I'm between six two and three depending on how myself stamos job Google so great I know. Hey Google who is dead shepherd married to DAX. Shepard has been married to Kristen Bell since two thousand thirteen. Oh my goodness this is a great reminder. Well we're lucky it's Tampa our fact check. Well it's GonNa make it a lot more rapid fire in line with our fast math January Jones sweet January Jones and loved there. We had a really good time with her and I was really delighted to see that. She has taken up the habit of the nicotine spray. Based on the PODCASTS. Yeah Yeah which makes me think we are doing our job to make this place better. Yeah and she's very good friends with our friend Simone Zim on on if you want to do the German pronunciation if you want to butcher it among call it. But they're really good friends and neighbors neighbors Tabor's and friends and buddy not always the case in my case you know. I've currently got four. People border our property Gat. Two of them hate me ones ambivalent in one. I'm good with that. You have me isn't neighbor now. We'll now yeah I got a fresh start but I already remember. I should the bed on the guy that lives to the east of the House because he said I planted on his property and I didn't agree with them but we've since mended that fence figuratively and literally early. You're across the street now. So that's that's a that's a Gimme Yup. We're off to a good start. It's the friendly neighborhood. So so she was talking about the percentage of men verses women who wear mouth guards because she said all the women in her family do anecdotally totally in my life. I've only known women who are using mouth guards to abate. Can I say that word there to abate night stress grinding. Yes yeah sure okay. So it says most people do not typically grind their teeth. When they're awake the awake activity usually consists of teeth? clenching or bracing of the John. Atta hold the team together. Which about twenty percent of the population typically women more so than men do from time to time entrusting about sixty percent on the population will have a rhythmic movement of the jaws while they sleep but that's percent uh-huh but that doesn't always consist of teeth contact which accounts for about eight percent of the population nations tendencies? Some studies show that Bo talks will slightly reduce the intensity or frequency of the brook schism. That's a fancy word right for it. Oh teeth grinding. Oh yes so much sexier to say Brooks's I suffer from schism exactly. Well that's great. Fuck that mouth guarding. Just get some bow talks. No I don't think we can tell people to get botoft throw. I'm telling you right now. Throw that mouthguard trash can and stop at your. Do you know Charlotte. I don't know if as you giveaway. Charlie's great idea. Charlie had a great idea to open up a botox clinic. That takes the stigmatism away for men getting it bro tax. Isn't that good really really good. Just saw bro Toxin. The thing they go I guess everyone's school now and they will go. Are Men that stupid that all they need to see is bro in the front or something. I hope they're not. Let's try ones. That would be even harder like them. Broken all rejuvenation. Oh Oh you you get the root of that one. I sure do okay How about how about roast augmentation about Tom Bro- PSOMAS Maximus Zamin. Oh I'm sorry I meant Pussy Pachyderms. Yeah that would doesn't translate as well no no no Speaking of others so I made you a Christmas present. The well you may ask S. best birthday present ever the amount of time in thought that went into it and the fact that it has a quote from the show on the front perfect calender. Calender came from this shell when I had the haunch that if you had celebrity body parts dirty body parts and and then you just had to guess who celebrity. It was to raise money for kids that everyone would be onboard. Yeah Yeah so then you printed that out and then inside is just a section of many men's physiques. Yup You can't see their faces in one case you can see teeth. Well you're you're just seeing pieces of them were. You can't identify who they are really if you don't know them right and so we went through together uh-huh and I'm very proud to say I got eleven twelve corrected. He did really upset. I did not get custodio. Yeah the God bought original dodd the original God bod I didn't get and that's largely because I've never seen that angle of his body. I only see it on instagram and whatnot. They're never seen up the shirt shot. The hardest one that you put on there which was just brilliant. It was so brilliant. There was a fucking body scan. A section of someone's abdomen bones owns the soft. Tissue organs is an X-ray it was an x-ray at first. Of course I was like what on earth is this and but then I remembered Eric. Eric Topol Doctor Eric Topol. Our favorite person gives himself scans on his phone. That's right I can't believe you got that one. That was impressive. Thank you thank yes. I didn't get this deal but I did get told that felt great and there was There was to double ups. Rob mcilhenny Rob mcilhenny. He taught me now he got to deserved deserve to and then just other notable mentions was a beautiful. Thi- shot of Ryan Hansen today and then a full. What's the reverse of full monty when you just show your backside Aksai full body? There was a full monty of Jess bought. So that's right. Yeah and there was a ABC. An arm shot of our PA.. Nick This bless this mess where we are. Currently we Nikki. I hate to because every first of all well. I think all my friends who cooperated with your tax. I can only imagine how you've raised in. Did you copy and paste it. Once you got the language right it was so long copy and paste it a lot. You know it was a lot of apology. I'm so sorry. This is such a random czar question. No Way to know if you're really making a calendar or you're just proving out on your own did a little of both these assure and let's be frank if I was trying to give you the same president not a chance. I was hitting getting up your girlfriend's going. Hey I just need a site it or no no no. I didn't ask for any private parts. Side BOOB is in private. Is that we see caresses okay. I'm sorry it's still part is somebody's breasts very sorry anyways. I doubt I don't know leg thi- shot how about how about one of the shots. It was a nude reverse out of I was like. Hey just go full monty. Your friends would have called the authorities they should. They should be fair. That was jess. Yeah that's and for him. I didn't even have to give any practice I just said Hey. We'll send me some pictures yourself. Send nudes period. Read parts of your body and then and then everything he said was inappropriate. Wonder woman asked him about. I did ask one person. Yeah to send me a picture of their but and I felt really uncomfortable doing it now nervous and I felt so bad because it was best friend aired weekly in no response aunts no response and I checked back in no risk then I took back in again. That's how I was an no response. Ghost ghost oh so. Was your last check in an apology ham. Sorry obviously you didn't respond. You're okay Erin. Why aren't you responded? Pitch of your ask some. Yeah but then it turns out he had changed his number. Monica didn't have an updated number so so certainly he would have been on there. I'm so sad about about that but yeah the text was. Hey this is gonNA sound weird and I'm so sorry But I make this calendar arrears. So when does some history account context. It's our friend perfect ten. Charlie are attractive Front Charlie and it shows all pictures of him but this year I decided to mix sit up because on the podcast. We talked about this counter. Did you get the idea of the moment. I said that when you're editing or something when you set it spark it's like if I could make the calendar into that but I didn't really think that was going to be possible obviously because I couldn't get genitalia rights. What if it was twelve months dog recommend otherwise So I have an idea but then I figured that's going to be too hard earn so I ask Charlie for the normal yearly twelve picks and. He said this isn't really counter year because he's yes update on Charlie's to sixty five. He's very specific shade. Just did a dirty game. Dan Weightless dirty again anyway so he said that too bad pictures and so he's lose lose forty five pounds. Let's say it's fine. So he sent me a bunch. And then when I was making the calendar I dragged one of the pitchers in and just the way it dragged did only covered a certain as with so many great ideas it starts with an accident. We'll sort it. Yes because I was like Oh interesting maybe all. It'll be funny funny of all of these didn't have his face and then I thought oh no I know what I'm GonNa do. How did it feel when you connected those dots and you clicked on grit? When I've been drinking wine so I really good? Yeah Christmas you were at home in Georgia to put this together Right quick yeah. Wow this has this has happened other another round of applause for all those gentlemen who responded so quickly they really did and you know I'm just like chasing Egypt like asking random people I sort of know for other people I know even less not dave custodio. God I did you ever does So Nice Tex nicest. He was on his anniversary trip politely. If he could wait till he got home instead I guess a little bit of time crunch but okay. Everyone was really nice and really quick. Everyone thought it was hilarious. Everyone one said yes except Aaron and except one other situation anyways what a counter it's a triumph. You should feel very proud of yourself in Again thanks every all the guys out there skies I will say that again just back to Castillo for one second. He's out of that circle of pervy news just like everyone else. You ask. Talk about bodies nonstop. They know what the drill is ever need to see. Those those belts gluts those trap easy is the legitimacy PSOMAS. Yeah Rob mcelhinney. I actually was going through Caitlyn that and she sent me one and then she said and he's making me send this one to in the underwear. Yeah that's great that's great and what's interesting is I. I got the first mcilhenny really easy the APP and then the second one cute me up is the Irish the little cloverfield tattoo. I didn't know about. Oh you know. I had no idea he had that tattoo but when I saw that Tattoo I thought who of my my friends would have that Tattoo mcelhinney. Yeah Oh detective work of Mars. I felt great the the whole thing. It was really really fun for me and I mean I just really wanted to make you. I'm glad I did was I. Oh yeah this August already because of Bo talks Oh also because Charlie had two pictures also in the calendar is he deserves. He really deserved it because his calendar sort of was getting melded Yeah it was he at all sad that the the calendar was no longer all him. I didn't ask okay but I gave them to two slots I bet it's like bittersweet Schorr who doesn't mean we won't go back it doesn't I mean God knows what this experiment. He's doing. Okay January what was the other show that ash and was going to do We were calling it surfing cowboys when he was deciding between that Seventies. Show the O'Reilly. Oh right right right. It's called wind on water. Oh wind on water. I don't remember that being long-running was it six episodes okay. She thought maybe maybe it didn't go past a pilot but it did six episodes but again it's so hard to say. Maybe he would have the power to to elevate. The premise is is C. L. Connolly the mother of coal and Kelly who are both champions surfers and skiers the sons competing extreme skiers. The Sun's ends competing extreme sports to help finance family struggling cattle ranch. An well then how crazy that ended up doing the ranch about a struggling cattle ranch. Wow you always meant. He was no matter how many times he turns that down. It's GONNA find its way right back into onto his plate. Yeah Surfing Surfing cowboys. Yeah that makes a lot more sense. I know that the there was a perilous cattle ranch hanging in the balance water. Financial ruin kind of a soft title for that. It's all about X.. Games called wind on water. That's not like Christopher Cross tune. You Know I think surfing cowboys might have been better. I absolutely okay so this is a sad turn. We're talking about depression okay. And the depression rate you said forty percent of people in America have depression journey. Turn so the National Institute of Mental Health estimates that six point seven percent of the adult population had a major depressive episodes. So I'm GonNa ask our new friends major depressive issue. Yeah I'm going to ask our new friend what that number is okay. Hey Google what is six point. Seven percent of two hundred in nine million I'll round the answer is fourteen. Eighteen million. Three thousand okay. We have more than two hundred. Nine million people be adult popular. That's the adult population relationship over eighteen So around fourteen ish Mallya from major for a major and for only adults because kids also have they do. Yeah and I think if you're you're too wide net net out to just include moderate depression you know. I think it's much higher and just people who are saying that they are right in in any kind of one hundred percent one hundred percent. Yup Oh okay so remember how she said faulk means fornication under consent of the king right and she said Golf Means Gentlemen only ladies forbidden. Okay I don't believe that one I didn't look I'm suspicious of the first one but I certainly don't believe Gulf I think it was applied afterwards like Ford Ford stands for found on row dead. Oh or Ford stands for fix fix or repair daily for does not stand for that. It was Henry's last name right now. Made up these really funny thing Chevy Guy or Chrysler guy you so now. You're a Ugo guy drew you don't remember. Yugoslavia decided to come onto the scene hard in the eighties start manufacturing very inexpensive inexpensive vehicle called the Yugo and it was look. I don't WanNa Besmirch the national character. They were not a very good. Oh Oh yeah. And they were about the size of smart car but okay. They had of their time. Yeah sure you know is a very popular punchline in the eighties. She's she's the Yugo of this or he's the Yugo of our that liking it butters of the Yugo of peanut butter. You know what I'm saying. Okay now ah feel sad for them a little bit. It is sad when any time someone tries hard. But they're all and they failed. We don't know that they give it their all. But presumably they did Yugoslavia even tehmina country now as it has been broken task. Hey Google is Yugoslavia still a country on the website World Atlas Dot Com. They say the monarchy was abolished in nineteen forty. Five in the country was renamed the Federal People's Republic of Yugoslavia. In one thousand nine hundred eighty six when Yugoslavia was dissolved in the early nineteen nineties nineties. It broke off into the following countries that we recognize today. Bosnia and Herzegovina. I love her to go Vina. I love the name ever been there but but I love the name. Okay fuck so. That's a rumor. Yeah I love it by the way I do too I love it. I'm glad she said it me. If I believe it I printed in a Scottish poem. In fifteen o three the ancient and awesomely powerful f-bomb continues demystify lexicographers lexicon offers lexicographers. Wow exit cock refers to mystify lexicographers. It's really hard to say. Rumors persist into the people who study language to make Heidel the hardest. She saw guys rumors. Persist that legal acronym spawned the obscenity the in question fornication under consent of the king or the Irish police blotter inscription booked for unlawful carnal knowledge Oh for for unlawful carnal knowledge unlawful. See Carnal Knowledge. Yeah yeah interesting. It's all I can do not to go on a diatribe about how stupid the English languages just hearing that the fact that we have C. N. K.. In Our fucking alphabet so ridiculous that see sometimes s just make it an S. when it's that okay. Okay let's celebrate spell it fucking S. E. L.. I mean well maybe it was originally pronounced calibrate than than we should either call it calibrate elaborate which makes me think of celebrates which is a which is a medication. We're not sponsored by but it starts with a C.. Celebrates I can you believe that Benjamin Franklin made his own alphabet it is yes and it had less letters he was like. This is preposterous. This is not the most logical set. You don't like our metric system verses. The standard system is really stupid. It is a little silly I mean. I also think it's arrogant of Benjamin Franklin to be like I don't like all these letters and I'm GonNa make my own alphabet just for me. No he was making it for every here. I don't like that someone is trying to make these systems. We use better challenging them. I I applaud it. Okay well we know how you feel anyways. So it's a rumor but it you know it's a rumor that's very old long lasting you like when things are unknown or do you like when they're known leaving a little room for some mystery still because almost everything is you know we can ask our pal and we'll find out it's still fun to have some they force you to speculate a little bit. I like that. Yeah I mean as a fact Checker I you know I kind of have to say that. Like yeah yeah but On my off days there's a little whimsey okay. We talked about Jon Benet Ramsey There are so many documentaries really WANNA watch much. Did she say she listened to PAS or watch documentary on Jon Benet Ramsey. Yeah it's it's a dock and I've seen it. It's a really. Yeah I WANNA see. It's called case disclosed Jon Benet Ramsey. But there's actually a lot of them but that one was really good it's well it was on. CBS incurring out to trusted broadcast area. Trusted that even though we're technically on. ABC Ground Right. Oh that's right. Hollowed ground hallowed ground. Why is he was the bad side? You said it was trust I think even ABC would concede that CBS trusted. I would hope so. Oh okay you're trying to convince her that everyone your age was concerned about the nuclear activity tip when I remember the name of that movie about to say what. What do you remember it being the day after day after? Nineteen eighty-three. Wow I was eight years sold according to my research says nineteen eighty-three. ABC's depressingly sober TV movie. The day after it told the story of a handful of people in and around Lawrence Kansas who had the misfortune of surviving an all out nuclear war between the United States and the Soviet Union. Now what's funny is Whoa. I think a lot of people watch it but whatever the point is if that that same show had been launched it would be humongous. It'd be walking dead like now love that day after we I love it. That's true although I wonder if we would love it right now in twenty nineteen twenty. I'm so glad you're bringing this up because this is something that I thought of Just a couple of days ago so there's a popular chicken restaurant now called crack shack. Oh we know about it. Oh so there's one I guess in Glendale San Diego's original Richard blaze from top chef. Oh I love Richard Blais in-house food experts. You rarely get to see Wabi. WAB skill set like that but but boy does wabe. No every single chef and so yeah. It's called crack shack and it's a great name. Crackdown years ago. They've got one in Costa Mesa and those areas and that's also why it came up because Chris data eight at the one in Vegas that they've now open at any rate great title right crack but I lived through. The crack. Epidemic would not have been a good title in the late eighties and I was thinking. What if you open up a restaurant called the OPIOID shack? KNOCK GONNA go overweight. And it just really illustrates how emotional we are about things because like right now. OPIOID shack sounds terrible. It sounds really bad. It's depressing to hear the name. OPIOID check register. Really bad title doesn't rhyme. There's no alliteration. Mark My fucking words. There's going to be in two thousand thirty they'll be some chicken restaurant called oxy. Chicken fanatic opioid shack. Maybe you we should. This is a horrible time no one can even say it heroin check. I think crack has related chicken though. How well it's a play on ready things the Correct chicken is a thing. Okay but we all know what crack shacks plane saying that the food is so good. It's like crack. And now you can say that you can and make that joke on every single soft Sitcom you can make that joke. Now he can't say opioid now. It's funny because we're all so emotionally involved in the devastation. But it just goes to show these waves drill. It's true I mean I'm going to stay. We'll place a bet. Now what did you say. How many years twenty thirty two okay? Okay in twenty thirty two. We'll come back and we'll saw arbitrary that gas. I didn't even think that out. I'll stand by it. How how much money do you WanNa bet on it? Well I think a thousand dollar today in two thousand thirty to be worth about one point six million. Let's let that one point six million okay. One point six million I think the no opioid Jack. Well the only way I'm shaking on this is if we include like oxy shack. Okay though the names will be cotton auden shack percocet shack. You know some opium popular opioid out then like D. E. N.. Like man I'm not. I chaos in fact Neko. Dan is a great meal even now I can't that can't be part of the bed. The point is that that's a horrible horrible name. OPIOID shack percocet shack. Those aren't named one of alliteration. They don't have rhymes bike hub of this opioid oasis. That's set that on the opioid part. 'cause I can't I'm GONNA commit to shack or whatever that's not my point. My point is just opioid does not make you wanna piece of chicken. Incorrect US okay. Okay Okay Twenty. Thirty two earmarked rob right in the list. Your mark that's still doing. We will twenty thirty two point two. I'd love anyone will be listening but we will do this great okay Robbie Wobble on Mike. CBS by them. But you when I will still do this. CBS Very trusted brand entrusted ABC CBS. He's the Omega. CVS another very trusted brand. Yeah Yeah Hey Google what is. CVS stand for consumer value stores. Okay so she said that mad men then went nine years more something and it was seven seasons okay but maybe it was stretched across nine thousand seven to two thousand fifteen okay. That's eight years uh-huh depending I suppose ish is Dallas rains really named Dallas rain. Great Question I bet every Angelino is going to be so relieved to hear the answer to this. The answer is in. He was born in one thousand nine hundred eighty four as Kevin Feinstein. Yeah and is that a departure from Dallas rain. It could be Kevin Feinstein I. I'm not sure Feinstein or Feinstein. No I mean wow right a real departure and again. He made a good marketing move. We fucking loved Alice rains. There's absolutely no debate about that. We Love Him Harris Spectacular. He's an entertainer. He's great so we're not taking a shot at derain now now now but a real departure Kevin Feinstein like that. He did that he just made a funny honey smart marketing move fucking work. The guy's been telling us about the weather in which by the way there's nothing to tell you about the weather in La it's fucking sunny sunny out and it's between seventy and ninety. There's nothing to report and yet he's made a meal out of it. Good for him was born knowing that he wanted to be a weather man urologist. Yeah maybe maybe. He changed his name at age ten. I don't now like he could have his prophecy from it. Didn't say okay I'll L. ask. Hey Google where was Dallas Raines born Dallas Raines was born in Georgia. When you hit your head hit my head celebrate my God we gotTa Talk to him because I assumed of course he was from Texas? He's like this cool. It'd be I'll l.. Throw bone the my origin and then rain. I love to somewhere without rain. Oh my God it's all blowing must've known and he was gonNA do the weather in la where there's no rain with people want rain. They want Dallas Raines. Famous rains that come through Dallas. They sweep through Dallas Dad has riley rains wad. His name's Kevin Feinstein. Oh boy he has. This is mom's last name. He has a whole history. Back you up on this new thing. I'M GONNA change my name to terrain so that no one calls bullshit. He might have been protective of his son. Maybe maybe like if I change my name to Dax Brando my father would have maybe followed suit to substantiate. That'd be nice of them. You know it was always my plan was was people may or may not know this but you can't enter the screen actors guild with the same name as another working actor her act. That's why you see so many these actors with middle names. They don't go by their middle name but they they were forced to. Yeah like Julia Roberts. Real name was Juli. Oh another one in the union is I will Marlon Brando's dead and he's not using that name anymore. If fishery changed my name to Marlon Brando random just on a sitcom on ABC would be spectacular or Ernest Borgnine. Oh going by Ernest Borgnine. You could go by hurt. SEGOVIA Bosnia Herzegovina. That'd be fun. I have some connective tissue tissue to sue with Ernest Borgnine. Because he was in the movie version of the book the adventures from which my name comes. Oh he was great. He played big cats easier. Dad He's my dad. Yeah Wow yeah wow twisted. Your Life is my dad's simulation is just the poetry of Your Dad's. I mean it's just when you look into it there's this All these intersecting layers interwoven themes so great. You're so lucky to be my dad's similar I am. I couldn't have picked a better one in January. We've we love you. We really enjoyed talking to you. It was really fun and I'm so glad she came. and Oh and she's obsessed with the bachelor and there's a new bachelor we're on so I bet she's watching it and maybe I can watch with her. That's commute. It's a hike. She lives on the other okay. Great in that event yeah. She's you got kids in the hall all right well. A behalf of all of us have a great day. We love you. I love you aaliyah.
PMS 2.0 314 - Jonathan Taylor, Dan Orlovsky, Shams Charania, & AJ Hawk
"Hello it is. Wednesday december sixteenth. Big showed at a big big show today. Huge can't thank you enough for choosing to listen to the show We got good football. Talk with jonathan taylor dayne slavsky. The artist formerly known as dana. Slavsky sean sherani with a little bit of mba talk what we need to know not big nba guys but he lays it out very quickly and some good chatter. We can't take enough for joining us. If you enjoy the show by the end of the please be a friend telephone if not go fuck yourself. What's gonna happen. Damn show tie joining us today. It'll be jonathan taylor. Running back for the indianapolis colts formerly of wisconsin. Who has been running. Why all of the nfl. The last couple of weeks really. Finally his stride in a big weapon for the indianapolis colts this past weekend. Against the raiders went off. He had i forget how many but he had a lot of touchdowns here of yards. He's getting loose. The colts is great. You got nyheim hines. Also in the backfield. Philip rivers starting to figure it out. Ty hilton's waking up. I mean that team is prime for a run in the afc. but in casey chiefs. Speaking of we'll talk to nor slavsky from espn today in the third hour about what his thoughts are on everything popping off in the nfl. Right now who's great. Who's stinks and what he's got going on in his life as host of. Nfl live every single day on. Espn also joining us. In the second hour about an hour. From now sean. From the stadium. The nba's happening by really. Yeah yeah and you could also tell which ones zito likes more by the photos. That reused slavsky. That's not that's not how tribute by the way. That's a good shirt by the way i have it. But you put the coolest photo. I've ever seen a shop by you have in front of jonathan taylor by the way like with the chef. It's because zito like texting. That's how we got on this. The v formation. right there. yeah he's leading the. Yeah the flying. These with this guy sean. Toronto looks on. Taylor was oh five. You'd have been led the league leading the v. v. You know sometimes sometimes you got to lead by example that we said we don't have the love the lead but shams will be on talking about basketball. James harden showed up and he looks awesome. I thought there was actually a photoshop picture of him floating around the internet last night. James harden obviously everybody knows wants out of houston still out of houston. Either they have john wallen squad and he showed up last night looking awesome his first minutes in preseason game he and john wall around court for the first time together everybody behind the scenes saying the james harden has been making the decisions for since two thousand twelve but james Pissed off about the decisions that are being made. He wants out. They offered him two hundred million dollars or something like that. He said no to it and he showed up looking like that. That's awesome good idea. Maybe get caught. I guess this is. I know who's going to be like. Hey let's trade for this unless we can get them in shape. I guess in two months and then getting back which probably what you're thinking. Connor best at boston corner big time. Nba fan. He said doesn't matter how fat you are or what your weight is all you do step back. Three to four falls exact. That's james done. And i don't know this narrative that he stinks or anything like that. I think a lot of teams wanna but the rockets are asking for you to now. Yeah yeah i'm i'm not talking about. I'm talking about him looking like being that thing. Yeah yeah because as somebody who has come back at different weights on a very regular basis you know like i was a partner so i can do if the quarterback was showing up right. You know like this and then disappearing and then like this you know. They probably questioned things in Drive in motivation and things that are going on off the court but also this could be james harden saying. I'm not getting a haircut. Fuck out here and the haircut can really change the way. Everything looks like that. The nba is happening now. Nobody really cares. But it'll be patient piece. It happens to be a wednesdays. There's not really much to talk about but we do want to talk to you. One eight eight eight six two three three six four six give us a call cannot wait to chat with you. We also have questions from other. Sports shows toned digs. There's talk happening. There's some quarterbacks are allegedly done after this season. There's a lot of chitter chatter happening about offseason moves right now in the nfl. Because we're at the end the nfl. Season louis riddick name is up for basically every gm role that is currently open football. You do a good job on their people. Say you put over some secondaries your booth and then you just go and become gm. That's is that. What is that kind of role. Wise louis riddick stadium. So hot using it. Seems like because i believe i saw where he was last in the nfl in two thousand thirteen and then he's been on tv ever since. And i think that's the role that you take like may opt it where you go on tv and you talk about teams should do and the players they should take but no one will hold you accountable because you're on tv so it's not actually that no one keeps track your results so you sound smarter all the time and then you get interviewed for gm because ownerships are stupid and That you're in front of a tv and they think hey. These people wouldn't hire stupid guide if to do that. By the way the tv people would hire people. They throw it on time. But the louis riddick narratives interesting. Because i think he was up for one last year too. There was a couple of conversation about it. You get a monday football to profile a little bit. Now your name names out. There might make in the raiders. By the way i've done good job. They also hired a tv. Jon gruden he said. Hey we're gonna go straight to the nfl network because that's associated with the league. He'll be picking a roster monday night. Football john ruin and we'll bury their franchise. We'll get out at birth and we will just fucking berry monday night. Football without jon. Gruden get to reach lottery. Do chris mortensen reporting this morning shots by the way at. Es espn monday night. Football analysts louis. Riddick is interviewing today for the houston texans gentleman's job sources. Tell adam schefter and me. Rick will then interview with the lions on friday. Ooh so there's like an old adage in the coaching road. I assume it's saving gm world if you're only like somebody don't let him out of the building like if you if you want to hire somebody you don't let him out of the building because if they go somewhere else even though you guys had great chemistry in like it and everything like that if he goes alliance maybe i don't know maybe he'll love that situation. You'll love that situation more. So i think we'll learn a lot on whether or not how the conversation went today now granted. The texans are going to do their due. Diligence was soon. They'll talk to other people but if they fall in love with him today. I don't think they'll let them leave the building. Just kind of get that get that get done with over. One who were lines can hire chad. Brown is report. Who the fuck is chad brown. Adam fox detroit lions fan. Who's chad brown. I've never heard of the chad brown. Pat okay can you please put the tweet up. People know what we're talking about. It was said this morning by chad. Bryan detroit sport radio chad brown said on one of four three the fan that he's hearing that the lions are going to move on from cuba matt stafford and that comes from kevin kisner at kisner radio. We do not know. Kevin kisner is. We do not know who chat. Brandon's we do not know what one four three the famous. But we know whenever you put those three together in detroit smokers fire and i think matthew stafford we all have understood is on his way out. But who's making that decision you know. Because they're going to have. Yeah who's making Was going to ask chad brown. A offspring of the ford family at nick monroe has a hand up. I got something to say about chad brown. I did a little research. it is actually former. Nfl linebacker chad brown former steeler and patriot. And it's one of four three the fan in denver now with the ford family of good for him by laird. Spielman chris. spielman bash. Punters the other day is now got a job in detroit. Have a great part of their hope. Jack fox get a good football guy in there. I think is what they're thinking this whole thing. It'd be interesting to see how all these jobs are field especially with us learning that they hire independent businesses do evaluations for them and they kind of take other people's words for their own. I mean you could see why teams fuck it up all the time. But i'm excited to see who does you know what i mean. What in a year from now two years from now. Gm do it. Did everybody think that was a terrible liar. We're way back in the same situation. Made even worse. And what hires like yeah. It's good higher. Like if louis riddick is a what if he's incredible gm. And i'm not saying that he can't be and i'm not saying it'd be surprised but mike mayock pretty good job. I think the antonio brown situation which by the way makes it even better than he had to handle. That also khalil. Mack amari cooper again. They made a lot of their team is kind of teetering out here at the end of the season just like they did last year. So they're gonna have to figure that the fuck out knuckle. What if you're i mean the tv guys get jobs. Ought to bet. You know what i think i think should be up for. Nfl head coach. Yeah why not line on tv right. I mean that's what you gruden for years. he would. He would leak his name out for head coaching role. It gets them interest. Then go to espn and say hey. Listen this is what they're gonna pay me head coach. Espn's like well we've seen future and we need you. We'll go ahead and resign to another deal worth five million dollars a year congratulate and then the next year comes out john. Gruden's name is up for the head coach of the indianapolis colts. It's like i tell you what man. I don't want to buy their often. Will how will. Espn resigned jon. Gruden to an extension for two million dollars a year. That was beautifully played beautifully played. Is louis riddick start doing with the monday night football. I hope so. That'd be hilarious. But it's a wild time in the nfl dude. Eight jobs probably going to be open head. Coaching jobs eight. That's a it's twenty five percent of the goddamn week. It's going to be wide open with turnover that means twenty percent. League is going to try to rebuild twenty five percent of the league's going to move on and there's a there's one particular place that doesn't have a coach being fired or gm and fire. What's gonna be day dinner. Drew brees allegedly done after this. Yeah all reports coming out. Drew brees is done after this year at tie schmidt noted drew brees fan. This has to be something. That's a bit this heartening at this point. I'm i'm glad getting out of there. Oh can't i'm done with drew. Brees why well you know this might just be me. I'm sure there are a lot of people in new orleans. That love him. He kinda just seems like a pompous asshole. Break the will they won't they. I mean dude. you're forty one. You broke like eighteen ribs and collapsed lung. Just fuck give it up dude. Walk off into the sunset. You guys aren't win the super bowl this year. You know move onto you know sunday night football and then cancel yourself right out of that booth get that process started. I'm done with drew. Brees let everybody know that the opinions of type do not reflect that of his employer or his peers. But i do believe it reflects a large part of it has to be something that is talked about drew. Brees is going to have every single record whenever he's done now. Tom brady probably beat them with touchdowns because they're currently battling and. I don't think tom's done after this year because avocado but if drew brees is done after this year he's going to be hall of famer certain hall of hay super bowl champion. They're already put them in the notre dame game. Yeah he's going right into that thing. How would that go probably bad okay if we had to guess but that does not take away from drew brees incredible career. I remember guy was kicked out of san diego. Great football kicked out a great football player. Undersized iphone purdue did well but if they move on which everybody's saying they're going to in you believe they're not gonna win the super bowl. It's gonna be tough. Especially if they're losing to jalen hurts in the boys up there in philadelphia but that could have been a up game if they move on. Sean payton come on saturday. He told journalists. Okay you're gonna have shot the win this job. And then he told tastes tastes mills. Is that just going to be an open. Competition competition graph to sign both. Thank you jamie is up and up. So yeah i think tastes ends up. I don't know so if he has one. So if so then what is james signing for because that will tell us immediately who is going to be the the star going into camp. That's going to be an interesting situation. Champagne says you want fucking both how games it tastes melt by now. Four three one game. He looked good. It was it was two weeks. He's played for so he had the broncos game when they didn't have a quarterback and on on he threw for twenty seven yards. He ran for two touchdowns though they stole one but he was like holding onto the ball. Who play next atlanta twice. And then he lost to the eagles this past weekend okay. So he was against atlanta whenever he was slinging the rockaway sound but when he was playing quarterback good. He was playing quarterback his third weeks ago. Yes third start. He was playing quarterback. Good at the top of his dropbacks. He was letting loose. Michael thomas was covered but he was throwing the ball. He's making decisions like an nfl quarterback. Okay that that was. You could tell that that was then this past week. It seems like he regrets again. It seemed like an. That's an interesting thing. I would assume that is a difficult jump just to make the thing about it is we. Don't know james right. He played one. Half with sean payton. It wasn't great. It was not great at all but they still won the game. We'll know jameson. Sean payton are. And i don't know if we ever will if they don't resign them to a deal. Because i would assume jameis. Winston services are potentially going to be needed elsewhere. He's probably gonna get more than what he made. A million bucks. There's a lot of bad quarterback play james once dot lazic. I mean you know what i mean. He said he wanted to harvard of quarterbacking. Which is down there and the saints stuff I think there's might be a little bit of a competition to get him more so this year than last year after he threw seventy five. Interceptions tastes meals cap. It next year. Sixteen million dollars for the saints. Yes i'd assume. He's probably started quarterback especially with them in the negative right there in negative. Ninety five mil in the cap next year. How can they even signed to. I don't know how they're going to move that by the way because if the salary cap stays flat going to have to cut people but they're still dead money so they're gonna have to get people to renegotiate somehow but if you're any of these players that are potentially cap casualties next year Matt ryan or anybody on the saints or anybody. Well i don't think he's going to be cap casualty because they pay. Yeah but i'm saying like a purse. There's no way you can re negotiate your contract. Matt ryan one hundred million dollars. It'd be impossible to trade him. If matt ryan there's zero chance you get me to renegotiate. That was you guys. Fuck deals okay. So maybe i'm not as good as i once was but i'm a good once as i was and that's when i walked to the bank and see the amount of money that you guys. I don't know how there's going to be a lot of moves they're going to have to be made. I'll be intrigued to see how it all plays out but drew brees being basically done after this year is something we all thought but now it's being reported about health run by through through group. Good riddance what you say. Good get the fuck outta off. Why do you hate him so bad you just. You said he's pompous. He's pompous asshole. So you or two in general you look at his interviews mannerisms stuff like that but yes he was also he was just a brick to me. Actually rose yeah. I mean i still have a herniated disc up here. From when he fucking put his elbow rating in my back at radio row and disney. So so are you thinking that you're trying to get nbc money. Is that why you haven't sued yet. You're referring to get nbc. Exactly see how that herniated disk t one t to potentially who seem right and wait for him to say something stupid piss people off and then boom you hit you slide right in. Then it's like you had your shot i did. I was too busy dancing on his grave. Juju what was what was twenty eight hours thirty. Two hours were drew. Brees was potentially never played football again. This past offseason team other teams are circling him on their calendar. His own team his own team thirty two hours and then everything changed immediately on a social media very quickly assuming bro got a crisis management team and figure this out smoothie king from bronco tweeted it and when romblon gets your problem look out you are in trouble and drew brees. Yeah all those records to. They'll be broken at tone digs tomorrow night. They will be broken immediately. But in due time i patrick mahomes is just going. Are you doing how you doing. Come here i come. Drew brees stan. Drew brees needs the pimp all his records whenever he retires by the way. Yeah with shoes. But i'm saying he needs the pimp those ours possible because it is not going to be for too much longer before. Patrick mahomes climate and put some banners in the superdome raft got. Yeah just enjoy the shit out of it. Because it's not his fault by the way at one point troy aikman probably had a pretty good passing career. Where the nfl was. You know what i mean. And he was passing like sixteen times game fifteen times a game seventeen times game or whatever like standard. Now you've got guys thrown thirty forty times a game. All of those records going to be changed. All those records are going to be changed then. There's this as that's why. There's so many asterix asterisk that you need to put on all the records because as the game change like tight end records. I mean those are all going to change. Slot receiver records israel. Going to change. You're talking about everything and defenses. Can't be held at the same standard as they were before. You know there's just so much there's so many qualifiers in every single conversation but drew brees records to your point to honor their probably gonna disappear pre quick. I was pretty quick louisiana. What's poll for the day Yeah what team would be the scariest plan that fell playoffs and you. You put the air quality around the hot. Yeah because you didn't title that that's just how they are title exactly okay. And which four teams are they Right now less surprising bears eight point. Nine raiders actually spelled. The wrong i apologize. I put the wrong ten point. Eight percent vikings. Sixteen twenty and ravens. Sixty three point six percent. What have you done for me lately. This ravens team. They play like they played on monday. Night problematic forever kuchen if they play potential poop game alleged poop game lot of cramp game if they played like the ravens played for the six weeks before that not very problematic now granted that ravens team has not been able to be around each other much. There hasn't been much practicing harbaugh. You've got to remember. He almost entire team. At one point. There was leaks coming out of there that players potentially not happy. He was a much different vibe. This year it was last year for the ravens but if the ravens gonna play like they played on monday night they are problem if the mars gonna be dancing and poop and on you that is going to be a problem and i'm not saying he did that whenever we want in there. I'm just saying whenever he gets going. He's pooping and shitting all irving. That's potentially problematic joining us now. Ladies and gentlemen man who's a running back from the university of wisconsin can throw up the West side or the dubs. Whichever way you want to do it. He has four hundred and fourteen yards in his last three games. The indianapolis colts his rookie season. Ladies and gentlemen. Jonathan taylor. Our junior was that county. I don't know gal technology. Yeah well conscious could do that. And that's the only reason why we can talk shit on him on national you know. And it's okay Before we get into wisconsin. Potentially you know getting sandbagged this season by having their their quarterback lead the best night in the history of college football based on his opening night and then he's told to go to prison for twenty one days can't even touch a football then they come back before we get into that whole thing. Because i know a lot of love for that we have to talk about how you've been able to transition into this incredible. Nfl player through this season was it was there. Is it mental. Has it been physical. Hasn't been learning. what does it been. You think that has made you really blossom here these last three weeks. Which by the way great news. This is when you should be playing your best phone. You seem to be doing that. What is it been this season. That has got you to this point. You think where your dominant you're absolutely dominant. Jd is definitely a mental aspect especially when you come from a school where primarily. You're under center in then your last year you have a couple of schemes out of the gun. I'm there's a lot of different schemes that require different timing different tempo from the gun versus running same scene from underneath so just realizing no scheme. You're was set in the taran and understanding the timing and tempo and it's something that takes rapson apparently year that we're having You know it's an unprecedented year. So it took a little bit more reps because we have some reps taken away from us in the offseason the missile a little bit difficult to get timing especially and nobody ever thinks about running backs timing by the way everybody thinks about wide receivers tight ends. They don't think about the running backs timing because you're so close to each other but whenever there's different steps you have to take for different schemes and shit like that. You don't even think about that earlier. In the season phil rivers was miked up and it was. He was saying he's twenty. Got the edge on you. I believe is what he said to got. The edge on was to Somebody on the bears but then also in that same game he looked at you. He said like ronnie's ass over like he told you. I think this exact quote he didn't say ass by the way he was like run him over. Basically what is it. Been like with phil is. He'd been like that mentor. Is it like that every day. Every game because what human to kind of be able to pick the brain of in your rookie season here. I mean it's been amazing. I mean when you play with a guy who's has seventeen years experience. There's pretty much not any look. He hasn't seen so no matter if he's talking to me or if he's talked a tour seaver -vivor hear him open his mouth. I'm linden in ear. Just a little bit comes because you never know that he says could it could just rub off on you and you could utilize that on the field. So i'm always listening when one seven has When you add early did you. There was a chance because him saying run him over there whatever. I don't know if the particular play that he was talking about there. Or he was referring to. Did you think there was a chance when you came to the men's league though that like the The hits will be much like coming from college where you were so dominant. I mean you just beat the shit out of people. It was awesome to watch. But when you come to the nfl you got like you know grown ass men in this was any thought in your mind about that about how your body would be able to hold up against older men or anything like that or is it just the same thing at all times are really my mindset was coming in here. I'm going to change my training. Of course you've got to change your training in order to keep up like you said with You know the six seven eight year vet says there's been lee and so training switching up your training being able to to build your body up physically something. That's definitely important but then it's also guys are just playing faster you know they could be coming with the same amount of force and velocity you know as they did in in college but it's just the fact that they're planning a lot faster so instead of that quick hesitation once they see you had the ball. They're shooting right now. So it's really a mental aspect of this game man. What you change you want to get bigger to do a little bit more olympic. What did you do miami. One of the biggest things is really just protecting some of those key elements shoulders. That's that's the big thing you know especially as a running back you gotta make sure you're taking days seriously a lot of guys think. Oh you know we gotta shoulder back day soleil day you gotta take that very seriously because when you take those many hits you gotta make sure you're able to go throughout that season you. You're splitting time right now. With nyheim hines who find the show. Also par core extraordinaire. I what is your relationship like with him. And has he taught you any. Triple mctwist score a touchdown or anything that i mean the hime has been a tremendous how i mean. The entire group has been a tremendous help but in the he is always in my ear telling me things that he wished he knew when he was a rookie. And you know he just says he wants to pass on information It's a better experience for myself. And and i just have a ton of respect for him because he could have easily said. Hey he's a rookie. Figure it out. Just like i had to but instead he wants to help not only even entire room so that we're at our past that's awesome. The offensive line is stacked. It feels like over. That was why one of the most desirable positions was to be the quarterback for the colts. Because of how good the offensive line was and now it feels like the run game has becoming something. That's being concentrated on with youtube especially with you getting the rock a lot more than you had been in the past with neom as well. The thought of that offensive line group. Do they talk to you. At all. As a rookie do they. Is there any conversations where they may be like say like. Hey you gotta do this when we do this or is it just like all boosting. Hey we're here for you. Type stuff are definitely a lot of communication going on. It's we're getting a certain look bad. We didn't really go over and practice because of course oh teams in the nfl. They're going to change some things up then they might ask a question. Hey would rather frost to hook this guy. Pin this guy. I mean i. It's constant communication throughout the game. And i think that's what's been able to help the run game and being able to be on the same page so the timing. Everything with the scheme is on point. And then we're on the same page then we should be able to execute to take antihistamines as one of the most interesting humans of all time. Do you agree out. Mos def central. He's a brainiac who's this absolute animal who flips a switch into a psycho path when he plays football and just he's one of the most interesting people of all time but then quentin nelson in the ryan kellyanne inter out or whatever but that that they got west virginia the whole offensive line. No has been awesome to watch. I'm happy you guys are starting to kind of reap the benefits of their impressiveness with the run game. We're talking to jonathan taylor running back for the annapolis coats out of the university of wisconsin. And we're thinking here a little bit before the show and you can take this answer for this question for however you want. I do find yourself although you're in the middle of a playoff push and exploding onto the rookie offensive rookie of the year. Conversation with how you've been playing and things are going well for the indianapolis colts. You're making good money and all that stuff. Do you feel at all that. Because you left early from wisconsin and they get their quarterback sent to jail for twenty one days because he got covert. Do you feel a little bit responsibility for them. Not win as many games this year. Because you're not air. New lender question i mean is these are i mean no one. No one expected this year. This year has been everything has been out of whack mean and i think that the only way you can kind of prepare for this type of year is understanding that the only way you get through it is what the guys around you so i know the guys that are still there at school. I know them well like you said i left early so i still had time with those guys and i know it's a great group guys there so they'll be able to to get through it. They're gonna hang tough through it together. this is one of those unprecedented years. I mean everything is flipped upside down and this is just something that we're going to have to to power through and you're ready lock in on next year and be able to go back the plan. No wisconsin football when things aren't going haywire. Hey let's go. hey man. you're run with them was awesome to watch though. Because we're in indianapolis biggies big ten championships. It was awesome to watch what you're able to do. What's jonathan we've heard about the locker room games for the colts. Have you been able to beat. Philip rivers or jacoby percent in any of them or are they still running the table over there to question the listen. There's a reason why you said those guys are running the table because guys they the table And especially me being my first year. I got a mixture. I work my skill set. Make sure that. I'm ready to go. I got a pack a little bit more points Before i take those guys now smart what are they. Games court hall basketball right. Yes sir. jonathan. Listen i love that. There's cornhole back in that building. There used to be awesome games. I mean there used to be awesome games in that building. I'd assume they're still is it. Is it an active boards. Are the boards active every single day. Oh god knows back when we were winning games. Oh man it's a it's a big deal by the way that's a big deal. You can't bring defense placing its offense. You've got special teams in there. It's really the time where some teams are like. They should be watching film with dave. They're gonna throw goddamn hole. They got enough time to watch him film. It's like that's building a whole different aspect of a team. Which by the way you can't really do in the same old fashioned use. You guys still can't eat lunch with each other right in anything like that as a rookie. How has it been kind of gelling into the team. Has it just been. I mean you don't know any other way but have you seen any obstacles in my kind of building camaraderie or is the team. Figured that out from the jump. Like i said cornhole was definitely one way they guys have been able to build that camaraderie You like eating lunch together. I mean we're all spread out. I'm so that's kind of tough unless you're shouting across the table trying to talk someone so and it really out on the practice field is a lot when you guys are building. Camaraderie being able to just chit chat. Whether you're you know not in for a play or whether you guys are breaking it down after practice or before practice warming up so you were trying to find times where we can still build that camaraderie while still following the rules being a safe smart just always things we have to do. It takes all of us. Jonathan takes all of us. It never gets talked about because it can't be put into a number but the team liking each other is the most important thing part of a team and you don't hear from espn. You don't hear it on fox. You don't hear it on the nfl network. Even oh you hear about his. The points scored. The yards rushed the forty times. The this this eighteen being a team is one of the most important things. And that's why with all these covert rules. It's such an interesting thing because you're seeing some teams kind of you can tell that they've been able to somehow figure out in other teams just kinda fallen apart. Jonathan when you were in the wildcat formation reuse shocked as we were that you actually got the ball that he hands off because it's a rarity when the wildcats running back is going to hand the ball off to another running back that is true. That's it wasn't shot. He told me in practice. He said listen. If we get this look which was the exact. Look that we got. He said i'm gonna just. I'm just ride at a little bit longer than that. I'm gonna hand off. And i trust that you're going to beat them to the edge. Because i know that your fast. So i mean this is something that we weren't over in practice multiple times so when we got that look we are. We both knew what was going to happen. Netflix how do you keep yourself call because palmolive troy palmolive when i was two coats. He said he could sense an aura about jogging on the field that we were potentially going to run a fake and he decided to line up on opposite sides. You always does in ruin my life. Okay conte's there you can fuck and ask them about a long trip home that whole thing but how do you. Whenever you're standing back there and you mines are literally looking at the exact thing that you thought was going to come there a moment where you look at each other and go like. Oh hey pretty fucking good that we did that. He's or do you like what is it. You just gotta play. Cole you to keep your your cards to yourself. What i think the biggest thing you have to do is you gotta remember auto small little details. Usually when you get a look and you know exactly what's going to happen you might start small and Inside of your head. And you're like okay. I it's about to happen and then that's when you can easily lose track of a small detail. The play usually is routine. Because you think oh this is going to be a scored. It's gonna be a touchdown so once that happens got to take a deep breath remember auto small little details that you're still but execute at a high level. How old are you twenty one. That's like super like wise thing. Seven when i was doing that and if i saw something i liked i was like let's go. This is going to be awesome jonathan. Continue your dominance pal. It has been absolutely awesome to watch. Colts fan is a former colts player. Ballard great one obviously. That's what chris. Ballard does. And i hope you call indianapolis home for a long time brother. Thank you so much. I appreciate your have mueller. Hey man cornell to whenever you novel cova thing goes down or whatever in the offseason we appreciate you. Ladies and gentlemen joining us now is a college football. Champion and super champion. this jail j. cincinnati's getting screwed. Your boy fickle getting screwed. Anything you'd like to say about it. I mean yeah. I agree with you one hundred percent. They are getting screwed. But that's kind of how the system is right now This oh that's just how it is you said. Well yeah i mean you go off. We go off so much of what people have done. The past like the success that they've had in the last five ten years well. Aj ohio states game. With what three games. So i mean. That's that's how it is. I guess i just how you great today by the way. How do i get unbelievable. I it's like good sweater in front of you. Give a dinner tonight. Yeah this is a very old right now in this. I got this thing at target when out to chicago. A couple of weeks ago to do the whole cup of coffee on my stuff right and i got my rental car. We look professional. It was a good purchase. Sometimes those are the best is also joining. Us is a man who's on. Espn nfl live. Every single day. He calls college. Gains has a wealth of knowledge out. Assume he's being asked to coach in the nfl. Daily at this point. Ladies and gentlemen former quarterback dan orlovsky. I really appreciate you saying go through. My name's one that's on my birth certificate and then the one that i get in social media all the time now well you talk about dan. Orlovsky there is. There's store dan. You had john so the little legit twenty times a day gain or slavsky comes across my social media mentioned. Let's put an end to that. Hey no more no. More hearth pat mcafee. No no. it's not. I mean we got a great group of people that false. We have no idea why but we appreciate them. But i think we're all gonna take no more danish lobski right dana sauce favor. Say i. Aye all right slavsky. The hey dan we're just talking about college football there. We'll get into the nfl because that's where your bread is buttered for real with the brain thing but you can call college games every single week. Cincinnati's getting absolutely screwed would like to know why you. espn will not speak up about. I've watched cincinnati this year. So i can't tell you like the quality of team that they are doing. I think that they're you know like i think that they would. They would get curb stumped by team league alabama. James get somebody alabama next now. I think they really curbside clemson. Okay well all right all right way to go okay. Those to go ahead keep it going. So i mean we're talking to college football playoff. We're not talking like the top ten teams so that's fifty percent of those four that are going to get in. You're gonna are. You gonna tell me that you think that they're going to hang with like a a notre dame ohio state. Because i've i've seen how state and i've watched them live and they are for real. Okay all right just real quick. Do you think cincinnati can hang with indiana not not panic cia cincinnati. So this is what he. Espn does by. You had to watch them in here. You go here. We've gone entire. i've seen indiana. They are for real. i z. Cincy would hang with no today. Notre see hong with notre dau-. We love indiana. We love notre dame. Kay we're saying. Cincinnati deserves some damn respect. But what what. What do you want respect wise for them like. Are you saying that you want them to have the respect of the college football playoff committee and put them in for gas or do you want the respect of college football in. Put them in the top ten. What respect you asking for. I wanted to five. That's where i want them at so you think that they are better football team than texas or florida. We'll see he's seen what you have done here is you've kind of mit picking entire. You know like we agreed very heavily that we think florida would potentially be to hella. But cena i think cincinnati gives a game. I think it gives them again. I do i do since. Nineteen has athletes. It's like our west virginia back in the day. Everybody thought are west. Virginia team would get killed because we wouldn't be able to keep up speed wise with the big schools wherever and we did and we won and we kept moving. The cincinnati team reminds me of our team now granted alabama. i don't think so alabama. I think they're going to beat everybody by a lot by the way because having mack jones and start offense is unbelievable. Defense is really good. Clemson clemson without trevor lawrence. It was tough to judge them now. He's back arrow different team. But whatever you talk about some of these other teams texas. A and m. georgia i think. Cincinnati beat georgia. By the way. Do i put that one down every year this year with him. Texting. i'm jay. texas defense is as fast is. I've seen a college defense have in two or three years. You have doors. You need to stop talking about things. You have second seed. Cincinnati's team play. You actually said the agnew seen tech sustain employee. Yes i have. I saw steel. Winds from people by the way by the way doesn't matter how you win. They steal wins though texas. Does their defense. Their defense is a head and shoulders above cincinnati. Often you haven't seen cincinnati law. I nazi no. I haven't studied cincinnati. Did not have their game. I haven't seen everything just said. Let's talk about what you have studied the nfl aj. And i got questions. The boys due to who let the dogs out. Who let the dogs out dan. You were very early. The josh allens the mvp of the nfl train you know. I think you're exactly what was. He's better than aaron rodgers. He's better than patrick. Mahomes than peyton manning. If peyton manning was still playing right now that's what you said. Earlier he kind of disappeared. The dan wagon one elsewhere now. He's reemerging back in there. That s be a little bit of a sense of like feel good for dan orlovsky there. Yeah he's he's. He's one full undertaker mode after that three week kind of vacation from the top of the rankings just to clarify never said he was better than any of those previous players that you mentioned. Oh no chad bron shoddy. I think. I think it's a i think it's probably a two man race right now for the mvp. Twelve and fifteen but josh's playing really good. I think he's offense coordinator be head coach next year. Think the greatest thing for josh's like the brain is caught up with the talent you know. His physical talent is absolutely out of this world but his brain is is kind of catching up. And he's he's playing quarterback now than just throwing a ball so that's a tough team. I said seven weeks ago is the only team. I thought that could beat the chiefs and i still feel that way. I don't think they will. But i think it's the only team that can dane where do you think carson wentz plays next year. She called me. Damn i like playing the game of like the unrealistic stuff you know like i don't let's say he can't be in philly. I know the money and the picks and all that stuff I can one hundred percent. Indy at the top of the list. I know that with mcafee off a lot of people think. Listen a lot of people think that. There's a lot of built up animosity between him and that organization in philly people think that he misses frank reich as a human more than just a playcaller. I think a lot of people think field carson wentz feels betrayed. The only person in the nfl that he trusts is blank right. So you know. I think he would try to get there if they were gonna move on from philip. I can see san francisco. I could see pittsburgh I can see detroit of the time It was probably the top four teams. Let's talk about detroit. Then will you. Chad brown reported this morning on one. Four three the fan in denver kevin kissing her said that chad brown reported. That detroit is moving on from stafford k. So that means he would have to have in with the ford family. If you saying that. He's hearing that. Because i believe those were the only people making decisions at this point. What do you think is a realistic future for matthew. Stafford as a guy who knows matthew stafford knows the lions organization and Who do you think. Be the calling the shots over there. Moving forward one hundred percent two lines and then you move on from staff. The detroit. bloggers are dow's dane. Sorry that was dan orlovsky. That just said that to the detroit bloggers. That are coming after us for reporting what chad brown said dude. It's time it's time. Was there for twelve years. It didn't work. It didn't not work because the quarterback it just didn't work like they have to move on. He has to move on. They got to blow it all up and start over again. You know this is. This is not a team that you know. Is it top five draft. Pick away from making a run like they got. They got some host phil so stafford needs to be moved. He needs to move on for the rest of his career. Who do i think. We'll be calling the shots. I would look really hard at robert. Saba head coach me personally. I think we fall in love with just xs and os their head. Coaching the nfl. And it's created a lot of issues. You gotta have a lot more than just that. I also think i was hiding your head coach. I want him to be attached in some capacity to the mike shanahan offensive philosophy and robert solas bringing matlock floors brother as an offensive coordinator. I think i think that's the likely guy that he would choose offense in the nfl right now. So that's why. I would lean on his head coach word. I think staffer would go. Indy indy. I think a lot of the teams that i just named but also believe that if arthur smith is the titans offensive coordinator go somewhere wherever he goes. I could see matthew stafford going. What about okay. So when you talk about these xs and os we fall in love with xs knows. What does that mean like. What kind of problems has that created. Mike michael talks about that like we. We're hiring playcallers not coaches. Is that what you're talking about. Yeah because because everyone fell in. Love with sean mcvay and i think he's one of the brightest xs and os minds and football. I was with sean. He's exponentially better at like leadership. People skills organizing foresights flexibility. No laying out exactly what a player needs to succeed real vision like i think that we lost sight of how important accountability transparency lost sight of that as a league in some aspects that that's the most important attributes of a coach. Now if he's really good with xs and os then he becomes unicorn becomes one of the top five six seven guys in the league at what he does but he's just really good at xs and os but doesn't have the ability to to have accountability and transparency and foresight and he doesn't have great people skills and he can't see the game three or four steps ahead both when it comes to exit but his football team. Then he's gonna fail as head coach in the long run. And i think guys like mike and mike tomlin and you read. Those guys were capable with that skill set. And then also we're really good with the xs and now it was rumored last year and nothing got confirmed that your name was up for a coaching gig. To louis riddick is now interviewing with the texans. Today i'll actress mortenson and then the lions on friday or whatever is espn you guys just like whatever you guys are sitting in the green room eat salads or whatever you guys do you guys just like talk to each other about how we're going to go on and coach gm somewhere. Is that just something that happens. Naturally or why is it because you saw these gruden. You see a lot of tv people kind of go in there. That's a dream of yours in. Is that something that is known whenever you guys are talking behind the scenes. Yeah i mean it's it's something that's always on my mind. I don't know if it's a dream. I think it'd be cool to be general manager. One day. I think that'd be a lotta fun to have your fingerprint all over an organization. I think being coach would be amazing as well. I think that's always in my mind. Dude i don't know like you go from playing and then a lot of times that people that go into television ex players and then when they get maybe tired of television when they crave the competition they craved the being part of a team in the karate they might start to the interest of being an coach or a front office. Person might start to gear up as well. So i think that a lot of guys just missed locker room and and kinda the feeling of being a part of something. That's why they leave television. If you were to head coach. Dan would you call the offensive plays. I'd have to look at myself in the mirror and feel like if i was doing myself like doing our team into service. I wouldn't you know. Like if i felt like i own our football team when it came to like doing my job in kind of doing the process of being their head coach and leader. I would do it. It had to be dependent on my defensive. Coordinator wasn't the defense. According to what was really good. I would lean more towards it but initially probably not. Oh that's a shame because coach. I'm calling plays. I never played offense and dan. I haven't said anything disparaging about you in quite some time. Actually since you brought on the show lasso just want to clear that up and also who's going to play quarterback for the patriots next year. Really i really appreciate that man. I didn't even call you the other name gain or slavs nice. Did you start that. No no no no. I'm not can't create them on the internet. Somebody verify that you haven't said anything. I can seats seats reshape. That blood bonita raw dangerous slots drudge. Four i'll give you a bunch of options. Well we don't need that. Just want to know who the one guys we need. Who you think is going to be there I'm looking at a bunch of teams now. Just say staff research. I think that the patriots are going to draft. Oh zack wilson ought to byu off talking about him. Just yesterday errands. A big fan of his aaron rodgers a big fan of his even though that kid took shot his swagger whatever. If feels like a lot of people like did you watch them in coastal carolina. Game you still. I don't think he played great. I i don't think he played great. Dude like coastal carolina's a lot of weird stuff. And you only got two days to prepare for it like you. That's hard on a quarterback. I can't imagine going to play against this guy like rex ryan two days. You'd be all over the world. So i always custom made to play quarterback in the nfl. Right now it's going on in your house right now breaking loose just an average average afternoon kids. So whenever you're in your office. I guess where you do your. Espn hits got dress up on top shorts on the bottom and then as soon as you leave that room all hell breaks loose in the house in any just actually did it. I actually did a sportscenter. Hit today and a girdle. Because i went right from there to working out got a full body workout in today and thirty minutes sweat session. No big deal. How you doing keeping moving also probably stay away from the kids for a little bit longer days when you've got dan. Are you a taste of nilghai. Or james james winston guy here we go dude Like i probably jameis winston. I've seen enough hill. Like i've seen enough flat routes going to the go-to receivers feet like i think he's a nice player and they do. He does a lot but like at some point for you to be the quarterback of the two seat of the playoffs for me to think that you're a bona fide option next year like we gotta get better throwing the football so i think that i think has should be very very much ready early on in this football game this weekend. They're paying him. Sixteen million next year tastes them. You think he just goes back to his role as a guy that just does everything and then do you think tastes him or jameson. Gonna definitely be the answer next year. Do you think sean payton's legitimately using time right now to see whether or not taste him hill. His steve young two weeks ago in his third game last week i guess in his third game starting. He looked like an nfl quarterback he was getting back. The ball was getting out on time. He was throwing it in tight windows realizing that. That's what open is in the nfl and then this past week. It looks like you went backwards again. I feel like. I have no idea if tastes smells a good quarterback or not i. I assume he's a bad quarterback but he had moments of greatness there to where you're like you judge him when he only has this time. I just you have to. If you're sean payton. Yeah i mean dirt a bad spot next year anyway with their cap. They're like eighty dollars unlike over the cap their negative seventy seven or something so you know that brings into the conversation of their a team that i could see a young quarterback or one of these one of these guys like a sam darnold. That'll be moved on from so matty stafford now afford them. I don't know if you've got. Here's my thing with because all answered the saints question. I like there's nothing that tastes in has done that tells you yes. Yes yes. He's the quarterback of the future. I dunno if you're ready to say no like you still need more of a body of work but there's nothing that you could point to say absolutely and doesn't play like he hasn't played in so you have no idea if he's actually grown under. Sean payton i think teams like. Here's here's where i am. Because i throw the saints like the saints. The steelers the bears like dude. They're gonna have some a pick somewhere between twenty and thirty. If you wanna quarterback or you. Do you feel better throw in that first round. Pick mack jones or in college. Trask did you feel better. Going san getting sam darnold's. That's where i stand definitely cow. Trask match over sam darnold. But whenever you're talking about potential what's your eyes. Just got really big when i said that. There's no way that you're giving a first round. Pick for mack jones and trust for sam darnold. He thinks yeah. you're wrong. i'm wrong. What makes you think. He stinks pat. He struggled for adam gays. The i just said. I just said it because you like them to do that. I know nothing about him. I i try not to watch any jets games. It's better for my overall health and everything like that but it is. I do feel like sam. Darnold has not kind of fair shake especially if you see how tannehill played out and all that stuff. But i thought i could get you going a little bit there. What's up a dan when you look at the box them coming off a bye. They kind of looked. I mean. they didn't look great. Are they a threat. Going forward in the nfc do you think or is it. Basically just the the packers time to win that next lombardi for raj not a threat right now. They look exactly the same as before their bye. Week everyone has gone. Oh they used motion at a higher percentage. This is why sometimes. I want a fistfight numbers. People all due respect a number of people all due respect. Because they're like they up their pre snap motion by ten percent yes skies. They snapped the ball forty eight times so if they ran for more motion. Plays in that game there. You go like every every soured for their offense like everything hard. There's nothing easy. I can't put them above green bay new orleans seattle There's another team in ramsey. You wouldn't yeah can't put them above those honesty they look for me. They're like the giants like good defense quarterback just how to play really good because there's not much given to him. That's easy the tampa. Bay buccaneers are like the new york giants network. You're gonna ask about powell. Dan is it too late in the season for the steelers offense to get rights or do they stick now stinker. Yeah i mean do. Here's the thing you guys know this. You can't do anything on offense if you're offensive. Line isn't good. Their offensive line is not good right now. And everyone's like well they don't run the ball enough watch what happens when they run. They don't get they're not a good offensive line right now. They've got an old real fast and that's why they're throwing it so much. It was really good early on because that they were getting some of the wide receiver ron to supplement their run game. They've gotten away from that a little bit. They just don't have any foundation that means that they can't bring anything value. Offensively still good team like still a good team. But they're like they're not making any type of playoff run that's significant lombardi is in common time. Hey the break went. It doesn't matter. What are you got. Aj dan you mentioned the bears now. What what do they look like. Next year like spars. Coaching staff front office and the team. Like what about mitch. Trubisky here seeking to be there. And if not where would he go. Thanks yeah mitch. Mitchell should not be there. I don't think he will. I think they'll blow that place up for the most part you know ryan pace takes mitchell trubisky and we all know what else happened in that draft. Okay well you took home. So he's your pick and then you chose the coach to develop them in matt nagy so was a bad pick and then it was a bad pick for the coach. And then there's a lack of development so the general manager swung and missed all credit for him for swinging swinging on the pick and then he certainly missed on the coach. There's been no development automated trubisky the same stuff that i would watch two years ago that he would do that. I would sit there like if he just fixes this. There's some traits there. It'd be just fixed his feet. That would be better or if it's an infant. If his drop us more deliberate that would be better. If he had more. I disciplined that would be greater if they used him on the perimeter. More that would be they. Don't do that so like at some point. You gotta admit like the coaches failing. The player and the player hasn't gotten himself better. And i think that's where the bears are right now and as good as their defense is in as young as they have some young pieces. I don't think that they can go forward with another year of mitchell. Trubisky and matt nagy dad. It's a circle of sock over. Where did this and it just continues to go. South there dan what times. Nfl live four. O'clock espn four o'clock eastern espn. What are you talking about today anything. Yeah i'll give you the rundown regular champion talked about the. We're going to talk about the washington football team and old jack del rio. The seahawks smart. I'm gonna put somebody new on the. Dan wagon to get off the tracks when the dan wagons common through. It'll move but you guys figure out who that is. I think he's the best player in football. That doesn't play. We're gonna talk about them. Tampa bay bucks may travis. Bills trump skills is a potential against the denver broncos. Are you going to dance on the graves of you. Predicting josh allen none no no no no. We're just upset alert to well. Then what the packers do that. No one talks about an up. Can't wait to hear the group. It's a great show every day. We appreciate you for joining us. Tell the kids. Thanks for stopping by on the show. Well long ski. See you later is no day. I think every day is the day that they probably don't how your kids in school. They go to boston. Everything in a while. they're in school yet. 'cause we switched their school so we have two oldest go. Oh one school said. Don't don't come a you've got to teach them at home and he said okay. Cool you ins aren't at school anymore. And then he found a school that is taken kids. That's what you did absolutely smart. Hey remember those friends you had. You don't have those friends anymore. Make new friends. Those friends are going to be socially awkward. Because they're not going to get a chance to talk to kids. They're doing class at home. Goddamn day that's going to be you. You're going to be able to talk circles around those friends in about a year to worry about that. We're gonna take you over here Was it to to our latest morning. No because of snow. And you're saying you. We barely got a tiny bit. Nothing series how we got like two or three inches here but it was like real snow. Normally indiana gets bad smell. It's like not even fun. Snow can't even throw snow or packed. Snow it got some real pack instead. Thick caused some problems on roads. Obviously but i think the northeast got like half a foot but we thought i thought it was going to be a big two hour delay but then i remembered no kids are really in school unless you your parents talk to one. School puts you in another school term. It's gonna wait. Goes nowadays rethinking about dane. Why did you call them those disrespectful. Wasn't i think it's i think it's doing ultimate respect when you call somebody by different name. Yeah but we had literally just got done talking about how he did one anymore. What shows like. Hey i got a personal connection with this guy. Like i can't if somebody i don't like i can't go them some random off so sorry to interrupt. I wanna let you know that borough offers the easiest most convenient way to get comfortable news. So if a delivered right teeter door. And it's not. 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Join us you look amazing. I wish i could take credit man. But i don't do my own hair. Well you look good. I appreciate it. Thanks for joining us. Basketball's happening already. What are we in right now. What should i be looking forward to earn. Preseason right now how long is this are real players playing. What's going on the nba. It ends on the nineteenth so they end. Preseason is coming up here and then we're gonna have a couple days in between the regular season tips off on the twenty second. But i mean the two things that i was really monitoring over the last week or so One of them is still going to go on. But the into you know whether he would sign won't and ended up agreeing to the deal yesterday. And then i think clouding the around. The league now is the james harden saga which no he's he suited up for the rockets last night. He's gonna play for the foreseeable future until they have a deal. That's on the table and right. I don't see anything that makes sense for the rockets within sight but again these things can change. we'll see how how fluid it becomes as you guys see. I just got a call right there. So answer to what you gotta do. Who is not an not answer yet. Limited dummy. I wish i could do did. We just bury his in combat. We're good we're good. We'll give off. You miss it. Though on on an option now the honest thing you wrote an incredible piece for the athletic about how the kind of twists and turns of that entire thing because down to bubble. Just what a few months ago. Maybe a month ago the conversation was he was going to go to miami. He was gonna potentially go somewhere else but now they lock him down for five years with two hundred and twenty eight million dollars the biggest contract in nba history. They're still thought that he could potentially not end up. There is there people on supermax have left got traded. Before i mean this is the first time a supermax player you know. Obviously the biggest contract in league history there have been players have signed surprise. Russell westbrook he got traded on his with a thunder steph curry Also signed for his a few years ago for two hundred one million in two thousand eighteen. So god's sake the supermax entree this is the first major contract over two hundred and twenty million by two hundred twenty eight point two and as i wrote as i reported. This wasn't an easy decision for janas. He got this offer on the table formerly on december fifth. He just now agreed to this. Deal over two weeks later. And so for him He really needed to be sold. By the milwaukee bucks. They really grinded this out. This took multiple meetings with ownership and his asian alex saratsis to figure out is this ownership. Group is this franchise really committed to doing what janas wants to do. Most and that's winning. He wanted to stay with the bucks. And there was always the thought around the franchise that if they didn't find a common ground on an extension this year. And if you're honest left open the window for him to leave as a free agent you know they might need to look around and see. And do what's best for the franchise because the last thing you want is an asset that you're gonna lose in one year and they felt like there was a chance that honest was leaving I do believe that that that window was opened for them to look around. The league. ozzy didn't need to come down to that. He decide to take that extension but jaanus wanted to see their vision. Wanted to know that they wanted to win. And you saw the movie that they made the summer you bring in jrue holiday. You make trades You make signings across the league. They unfortunate we're not able to get bogged down image but they still think we'll cover as as well as they could okay so the nba. Such an interesting one because as you just laid out there there has been people who have signed supermax is to our team and then said i am get the fuck outta here. You talked about how jaanus wanted to see the team's vision before he signed on hilarious. Love that i wish. Nfl players could do that. But now it's coming out. And there's a bunch of sources with james harden the other story that you talked about the you've been covering james wants out of houston or whatever they offered them whatever two hundred million he said. No i don't want it and now it's coming out the he's in. It feels like the houston rockets are trying to do a little. Pr control here about how they treated. James harden because james harden one and out of houston is probably not a good look for the rockets or whatever. So now it's coming out. He's had control over every decision since two thousand twelve. They're saying behind closed doors. Then more stories are coming out like if there was any time off. James harden was flying somewhere to party. Then he would come back and he would do a fifty point triple double or whatever which by the way is that was the make him look bad ache. Din may be looking made him look even better now. He's demanding a trade. He looks not like james harden would look. I'm not saying he potentially put on twenty to thirty in the last month or so but he looks like a different player and now he still wants out of there but they're going to start their games here. He's showing it does not give effort like how this play out in a harmonic fashion at all in. Who would wanna play alongside james harden like. I've heard that they're asking prices. A couple ones and something else or that teams haven't had much success when james harden the focal point right like the houston rockets dot one the entire thing. It always seems like they lose to a good team. Does james want to change his style of play. How does that all situation end up. You think yes so. James harden is going to have to remain professional. You know the one thing about him is he loves playing basketball and this is this is occupation. And he's going to go about things away that's not normal for for most. Nba players right. He spent time in atlanta in las vegas and for a lot of people around the rockets that was james harden bean james harden across the last few seasons. He's taken few days to to to travel out of out of town when he's not when they have a few off. You know that was part of james harden and it's still you know may be part of james harden's routine of course we're living in a different time right now we're doing with the pandemic. I think that was one of the major reasons why that was bad. Look for for a lot of people around the league. They looked at james harden at a club or at this location without a mask on. And you look at it in a different way given what's going on in the country But james are professional play. And it's not you know Out of the norm for a player of his stature. Have control over practice timings or or over you know different things around the team to me. That is pretty much normal. As far as what superstars you know what what what's at their leisure but at the end of the day the rockets aren't gonna make a bad deal. They're going to have to wait out this market. I don't think there's a deal on the table right now that they would take clearly. There isn't do you. If you're the rockets you wade out. In ben simmons becomes available in philadelphia. That might be the number one trait chip. Potentially that you can acquire of. He can shoot now right. He can shoot a basketball now right. Can't shoot. he didn't shoot. I don't know if he shot me an eat threes last night. But i do know. He's trying to become more accustomed to shooting those threes but he was beginning. Couldn't shoot a basketball right yeah. He was athletic. That that's all the way to the nba. And then they had to teach them how to shoot is not what happened with him. I mean listen to be an all. Nba player and not be able to to to to have a reliable jumper to me. Speaks it what he brings the table. They play high level defense all all nba defensive team. So i thank him. Simmons is probably the number one guy. You can belong right if you're near the four team that that that he's open to a trade. You're looking at brooklyn. Miami milwaukee milwaukee i'm told is unlikely to make a run in his heart of brooklyn's not have the suits houston needs. And if you look around You know philadelphia that is is a potential spot if they can get a ben simmons. You're the best jobs i feel like. I learned everything i need. The lakers are gonna win again. It says poor connection. So i don't know if you guys can see me. Hopefully you guys can. We can favorites. I think they're the favorites. I think they've made their team as best. You know as much as you can improve team after championship. They've done it. I do think they're my favorites right. Now trump's sean. You're the are we going to see fans in the stands this year. Is that off the table golden state. They said they were doing something. Aren't they so right now. I think we're gonna have six seven teams that are going to open up with bands. Right i think orlando is gonna do four thousand fans in the arena team run league two thousand two thousand two thousand five hundred I do think by. April may june. That is when the nba expects vaccine to be available for the general population. And when that's the case. I think you're gonna see a flurry of teams tried bringing advance. Because that's forty percent of the league's revenue. Did you say some news there. So april may june. We should be expecting a vaccine available for most population. The general population vaccine the nba and a lot of different Medical experts that. I've spoken to In in the that they've made clear those professional leagues around april to june. They do expect General population i. They gonna pay game become big bulls. That's awesome gift back. The bulls are recruiting me to be a fan of their team. I love you might listen. Hey let's let's do it. He's still sean spending the ball. And i are. He can be allowed to perform. I don't i would not expect it. I think they're keeping a the most essential as possible so he has a sexual. Sean thank you enough dude. You're the absolute best. Can't wait to see what news you break that you missed originally on our show earlier so we appreciate basketball now. It's kind of interesting because there's so many games and of them really matter. Just if you're gonna go for a night out or whatever it's kind of what it is. It's something good if you're nba city or whatever but at the end. I just need know who's he's election win all need that same cheering for this year. Them in ables cheering for the lakers. And we're gonna win a championship animal. Go hopefully fucking run around. What's going on said the. Mlb said that they're going to start their league until probably may when all their players can be vaccinated and similar to the mlb and the nba. They did a bubble. Nfl says no bubba layoffs the way that rumor was started and whatever we heard it by the way and our job is talking about rumors by guiding jeremy in detroit. Take fucking hiked bro. Okay just think dude. You're a hero. All right know a hero but there was a rumor that the nfl was potentially going to make a bubble around the nfl playoffs. And we talked about on this show. And i got ten text messages from coaches and players former teammates and friends of mine that all said stop with the bubble talkback. Don't even fucking put it out there. So i just want to say this. We were big proponents of the bubble in the playoffs. We were we were supporters of this because it takes all of us. You know all these. Nfl guys you know. They're not going out to any dinners with their family. They're doing no holidays with anybody. Can't even go get food with your girlfriend or your lady for her birthday because it takes all of us. nfl players. And if you know if there's a rumor you guys are gonna be bubbled because you guys don't understand that you're not allowed to go breathe air outside. No you're not allowed to walk your dog not take your human absolutely not. You are an nfl football player. So whenever that bubble has come listen we need play football. We need we so. When are you to six inches outside everywhere. We need playoff football so the nfl says no bubbles needed. We're like i guess dude i guess. Could you imagine how fucking miserable that would have been forever. You got through all season k. Think about the teams are some teams in the playoffs. Now that had zero coveted situation. I guess seattle seahawks for the team. But there's been a lot of teams that have controlled the whole thing there and if they get to the playoffs with the most important games okay all right now by the way. Go stay in his hotel down here yesterday. Practice on a thirty yard field out here nigger this thing. It would have been really incredible to see how the nfl would have been able to set that up how big it was in the players. I think they've taken on how to ownership of this entire thing. There was a couple of scares outbreaks. Congrats to the nfl for being able to shuffle. The games that will get us to where we're at. We are out of the woods yet. There's still some things that could pop off but it feels like to get to this point. Why would you change it to get to the playoffs. If there hasn't been extended week or anything like that why would you change it. You already got here. And i think the nfl ran into big problems. You're right if it's not broke. Don't fix it and also we would have to build a city to be able to do for the nfl. And we just can't fuck and do that. So i think that is why. The bubble for the playoffs has been ruled out completely. We'll be miserable. But could you imagine watching your team play a playoff game with the quarterback who may not be able to play because he has cova going to happen. I mean it's it's such a bubble isn't necessarily gonna win. The bubble isn't necessarily going to be full proof now remember the nba much smaller operation. They had the entire thing they door strategy running in the thing in the entire thing so now granted. Has the bubble been foolproof for the mls. I believe For the nba. And everything like that. I guess he got them through a season but who says with the vast how big it has to be with the nfl bubble that it would be one hundred percent. I just don't know at this point. We know enough about the rona. Be able to say that it would hundred hundred percent but it would suck for a team you get to the afc championship game and if c. championship game and you've got What was his name. keenan gilded keegan keegan hill. The hill didn't play horror. Macaroni a guy who has taken snap since his junior college at wake forest which is a known. Pass happy team. You know what i mean. That would be wild. But that's gonna happen but that's what it boils gotta remember takes all this does. Don't even think about going off. No any birthday celebrations cancel cash. Stay home those are canceled this year. And to your point we do need to commend teams. Like the jets and the bengals for sticking with it. I mean now. Trae fucking stink. They get the doors off every week and they keep getting tested they keep making sure these games go off without a hitch because there's some there's some college teams that got their ashby. Then all of a sudden they just rest of their games cancelled because cova like the players there being told. You guys aren't allowed to go to that party. That's happened about six inches below your apartment. We're not allowed to go down. You see all your fellow student. Humans k. They're not they're not student athletes but the fellow student humans having a good time you can't go there and then you lose your first game and you're like we still got everything in front of us lose your second game that party popping off a little bit more. Now there's more stuff going on socks go all new harlem new tiktok answering your feet. You lose four games all of a sudden you're going to get a part of the roster it's going to be like. Hey listen we fuck stinking. Having school sox get out. We're going to be in debt forever. Bottom half of the roster's donald scholarship. We're going to do that and then used five games. And then everybody's like yeah fuck this. We'll come back next year even count towards our eligibility. It'd be fucking special again next year we're gone with that has happened in college. Hasn't happened in the nfl which is impressive. I mean not even just losing team in college. What about the disrespected undefeated teams that. Stay on a feed and keep dropping in the rankings. Every fucking weakening because the scam. Yeah and his scam. It's a racket joined alongside. Aj hawke aj. Dan orlovsky ever going to be a coach in the nfl. Absolutely i think one hundred percents. I think he's been laying the foundation for that to happen a little bit you know. He's kind of leaks out there i would to be. Gm coach bacall too. I think about every once in a while. I think last year there was a rumor that he offered the philadelphia eagles offense coordinator quarterback coach job or whatever because how he put carson wentz in basically. The thought was people in the building. Were like this guy. Seems of course once our guys. Let's go ahead and try to get him. Louis riddick skidding gm interviews right now. I'm excited to see how it all plays out j. At some point we just got a floater names for those jobs. I think that's how it works. And then you just automatically do it. Louis riddick gig. Because his name is always brought up. He's a former player. Anytime foreign player gets into gm role. I like to see them succeed. Hopefully he'll be able to do that. There's an old tweet from him. Two thousand and eighteen that is circulating the internet right now that The thing is rather hilarious from louis riddick. It was his thoughts on things. But i think everybody thought the same way he thought. At that time there was about Draft stash pass and he drafted josh rosen he stashed. Sam darnold any pash josh allen. Oh that's tough but listen every gems. Go make mistakes. Louis riddick wasn't gm then he's now learned through more stuff. I hope louis riddick gets a gig. Lobski gets a gig. I hope we continue to build our friends. Not that louis. Riddick is but dan orlovsky in those roles maybe have more interviews with. It's not easy being a gm though jay. That's just not easy at all. Are you kidding me. Like how tough would it be. Let's say you were in the top five. And there was a couple of quarterbacks to choose from and you have to make that decision cow do you know like we. There's no real. There's no exact science on predicting who's gonna make it. Yeah ryan leaf drafted ahead of paint man. You know you have all those incredible stories that are told by people and obviously mitchell trubisky was drafted ahead of the potential greatest of all time. Whenever it's dan. Patrick mahomes and deshaun watson you have no idea but the what's that did off trubisky's better than watson. Check the numbers from one weekend. When he percentage actually mitchell trubisky better winning percentage us say. Let's find out. I know. I always in point. Four percent better. Yes better if you didn't get benches year for nick foles at all lower no way higher. Probably no yeah. Yeah probably never now. I wonder if mitchell trubisky play again. I did not know that. But anyways. The gm's i think they take a lot of blame you know. But i think it's a not an easy gig so that's why you have to be so careful with which jobs you take because if you end up in a place where you don't like somebody told us lombardi. Maybe lombardi told us was that on hammered diner on this show said if you had to make a move he had to get it okayed by the goddamn owners so it wasn't as easy as just like i want this guy. I want this guy want to bring in. This guy wouldn't do that. Not all are allowed to do that. Only some gm's that are allowed to make plays he kind of get handcuffed. Some places in that doesn't get he said he couldn't make a seventh round draft pick without approval from the owner by the way seventh-round were studs. Aj and i love this segments our favorite segment every week. Ladies and gentlemen it's time for a recurring segment on this show called questions from other sports shows. Come to questions from other sports shows. all right. gentlemen. Let's get right into it because we got a bunch of good wants today. How much well. So we have four questions and then there is a bonus round at the end of you to you. Know want to test those waters the bonus round. It gets a little frisky first and foremost from undisputed more credit for the win on monday night. The mark jackson getting the team and field goal range or justin tucker's kick see. This is so interesting okay. I'll go first question just shit on tucker right. So tucker was getting a lot of credit. I saw on twitter by the way it said Baltimore ravens beat cleveland. Browns with justin tucker's fifty five yard field goal. The headline at the bottom was like ravens are best browns tucker fifty five hundred field goal and i was so pumped up because yeah a bunch of the people have great games. I was lamar. Had a great game trace mixed came out there. Did his mark brown had touchdown there late you got. Jk dobbins running over sendai ho right at the goal. I mean there's a lot of good things. But i love the tucker was getting all the love and the good for kickers and then i realized next morning like all. Yeah well tucker hit a fifty five yard. Now they have to shut up and basically this question was set up so that they talk shit on so i love that great exchange sharp went on an incredibly hilarious rant about kickers and i enjoyed the hell out of it. And i've always said hey if you played the nfl whatever the hell you want about kickers and punters but obviously as a team thing is team the whole teams coming together. That's why you can never pin blame on one person. It's all team coming together. jay. God dammit okay. So let's say. Lamar jackson gets him in field goal range and he makes it happen in then tucker misses the kick. What are we talking about. We're just talking about tucker is. He's been cautious whole life. Oh as he thought off the cliff to cut him has he lost his magic losses mo jo. He has the hips. So yeah dumb question. It doesn't really matter tucker lost the game would be by the way john tucker lost the gave us. Lamar jackson only gets to like a sixty five yard or something like that. Any misses that kick. It would still be justin tucker mis kick loses game. Or whatever but granted quarterbacks get more hate on a daily basis in lombard credits and kickers. Do i just don't like that. This question was set up. Strictly to kind of pants on tucker feels absolutely discussing to light on. Hey let's just be glad that justin tucker he'd deck by the way justin tucker probably hit that. Get ten times ten. Absolute stud well lamar jackson after going to the bathroom. Come back in and lead a team like yet. We'll see if they can't baltimore is going to be probably. Maybe that question comes up later on pat well really to find out how harsh it number two is washington football team super bowl window. Open next season gago connor. Can you reread the question. Please is the washington football team super bowl window open next season. This comes from get up. Aj out is that how it is written. Football's team it was actually washington football teams. Okay i don't even know the question pat. You can go first okay. I did see him some over a couple of times. Eight is i mean. He's not a host all the time off his wrote an essay and then i had a cross it out with a pen and then he doesn't look like i crossed it out. Why use mechanical pencils. This is a wild question. Who's playing quarterback for him next. Anybody have a clue who's playing quarterback from washington football team and jimmy. Until we find out that i think we can answer. But i'll tell you. What would that defense line w of a wing games. They'll be able to beat teams. They're not supposed to be because defense line. Eats chase young as after the monster. But we don't know a damn thing about the washington football team next year. We know the names are gonna be watching football team right for another year of class or whatever they do anything to hang onto that we know that old jay writes can be running the show over there. As president. ron rare is going to be head coach. I would assume that maybe del rio get another job somewhere. Yeah we have no idea. This is back question. I don't know i mean is there. Is there superbowl window. Open this season. Yeah no things close motherfucker now. Also the in ireland. I don't know if you know this but in dublin had small little windows on some buildings. Okay because they had to pay northern ireland for the amount of window space that you want to because there was the whole protestant catholic car bombs and things like that. I would say that their window. This year is a is a very small window in in dublin because northern ireland was tax them so much not a lot of money to pay for las vegas in that window is cement. Shut this year. But maybe next year. That win shaping help maybe they maybe they open it a little bit so maybe perhaps the window is open gentlemen. Aj if you didn't like that question. I know you're gonna love this when it comes from. Good morning football. What current player would you want to have been college roommates with that. Aj like hearing. How would you like your tone when you read the questions. That's why i wanted you to reread the other one. Last one barely read the first time. Iran back the second time what player. I'm not ever since. I graduated middle school like i didn't enjoy having a roommate so i don't really know if this is like this. Like questioned is good for me. But if i had to pick one current player to be his roommate. Jeez i wanna pick somebody. That doesn't talk. That isn't messy. And i don't see so whoever that would be think throws i'm gonna jack doyle ooh jack doyle's that guy he's doing a lawn work too. Yeah he's probably putting up the lights. That's ongoing check oil sugar. Another thing would be to go with like you know aaron because probably be a pretty cool house pretty cool house and it'd be guy you know watch shows with at night and have a good conversation and he's got a lot of money but then i realized that i'm that roommate that he doesn't want you know what i mean because of what aged just said who's quiet and who's tidy and all that stuff i am not that so maybe i potentially ruin my friendship with aaron rodgers. Saw got to pick somebody that it's been around me before knows me. A little bit is also. See some picking jack doyle tight end of the indianapolis glow. That is an interesting qualifier though. Because are you in like a college dorm room or ages. Eight hundred and fifty thousand square foot villa. I mean that's you know like you're not seeing the other person ever because You know. I gotta use telephone call My roommate blink. Drake and his friends had to do that. Had a call drinkers zone house. So it depends on michigan house where we had an ohio state football house gifted by boosters or we call germ. There's a lot of what's that. Aj obviously completely false. You're right there with that one. But i could see. I don't i. Don't pat no matter how large the houses you could have a forty thousand square foot house. I have a few a roommate. You would be following that little guy around the whole time like they would be able to escape you. I feel house. Aj befallen maple just know that but we would probably be close to as i do get lonely. Only meal on this one comes from boston. Robin the a. M does lamar jackson. Cramping up in the fourth quarter. Give you concerns about his long jetty in the playoffs. What show is from austin robin the am. Is this other. Show new hampshire. Boston rob in the absolutely slaying. The game up there no respect out his name you know live for your die. They love is google that nothing popped up. Is that right where he's not on google because they went down the other day. I'm pretty sure they got wiped off their off. Fortunately for check your who. He is on your right next chuck. He's the first thing that pops up and it sounds like this one. You just made up no does feel like this is people are saying potential used to this show. Sounds like you're questioning now. Would you like to answer this question. I mean look. If i was on the show i will. But i'm just here to ask the questions and you guys in the past the ball. I can't. I would love to answer all these questions for you guys but i can't. Yeah you're lamelo ball exactly no look see you later. Yeah but you made this question up and you bitch. Basically a tape saying you want to go right to the bonus round. What i'm saying is this cramp has anything to do with his longevity. Is that what you wanna talk. Shit on the. I wanna talk shit on the mark jackson at. I'm concerned about one thing. Only and that's beat in the finns on sunday. Okay you're not concerned about the segment at all. Of course i'm concerned about the same comes focused. I'm not concerned about the mark. Jackson south concerned about the patriots. That was a weird time to get cramp in your arm though. isn't it. Because he got a cramp in his arm. Really weird time right. That's why he did get an iv though if you saw didn't have the tape over his dr. David shaw dr david. Cia pro football doc diarrhea. I thought no no. No zito thinks diarrhea. Everybody else said he wanted to share there. There's a weird time to get a cramp in your arm. I do hope he's okay. And hopefully that isn't assigned things. Come because i like when the ravens are playing they play. Fire makes you poop. Actually what's added all like charlie stinks. Hey all they need to do all they need to do. Though now the ravens now instead of just taking a leak in that they needed to bring one of those little. Rv toilets dump out. Right there in the sideline. Hey good idea no fan. Let's g we're the bonus round now. Okay these are strictly. You know just a phone. Grab bag okay. Spotify the other day they came out with everybody's top sergey twenty twenty so one of them that came out was patrick mahomes. So can you guys guess what. Patrick mahomes his favorite song of twenty twenty one man. There's zero chance of showers. This from good morning filipino. What i know you guys are gonna get it. So i'll just tell you patrick. Mahomes favorite song of twenty. Twenty one. Kelsey you again by whiz chief with catchy whizzkid cheap calc- you agai- interruption. They also released aaron rodgers top song or two thousand twenty. If you guys would also like to hear that one way. They said this on tv. You're making this is swear to god. I make anything. That's on this sheet up aside from stuff that comes from boston. So did he say whiz. They said wiz khalifa. Elsie you again. They gave the top four of each of these core. These are my favorites. Okay what's another one. Aaron rodgers is top song. Twenty twenty baby got back by sir. Six a lot. That's not is photos of creative. I saw it got back tiara. I mean if you think about it could be next level. Good news those pitching. That is that somebody i guess. That's a really good. You got to have a good brain to think of this question. Qu pat quick so connor. What are these team. What are these stations. What are these shows going to do in the off season. What they're coming up with running back it back because this offseason chatter here like you know what i mean. I think saw brady doggone screen one one see what was his number one dog. I believe august plan. Well no there would be anything else. You gotta another one. I was trying to think of who is by. But i couldn't go. Maybe dr areas or something like that experience. I don't know i can't believe they do that. I'm thankful we don't. Their shows are better than ours. We agree with that. We do not have the minds and things like that. And i'm thankful for that because that person's tough to be around on a daily basis. Pick that person as the person. I don't wanna be roommates with whoever thinks and then this question john but i do respect their brain for being able to do so. So that's another questions from other sports show can't thank you enough juice and listen to this show. I know there's a lot of things that can penetrate your ear holes the fact you allow us to do so with our words and our stupidity. We attorney grateful. We'll be back tomorrow. Big-time guess tomorrow. Yeah huge guests tomorrow. I usually don't spoil it. But nick mangold has to drink a whole thing a barbecue so tomorrow should be pretty awesome. Also more guests more conversation. Beat a friend. Telephoned will see them in yana. Tie please place some independent music and propelled these people into the glorious wednesday that they're about to have down see lying down by a an man. He lacked key motion lights out the the ocean. Away cowboy no. Oh do you remember