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"This is Sean spruce host of native America calling. You can listen in every weekday to hear the only national call in show from a Native American perspective. We explore topics that range from traditional cultural practices to up to the minute news that affects every American. We hope you can join us for the next native
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"Clear right now that tribes are leading all of these land projects and that you all as tribal leadership or even tribal nonprofits are the stakeholders this is our land. These are our sacred spaces and you're not going to do anything to let those people co opt your project. And so I think there's a certain level of protectiveness that happens over this type of stuff, but also really just being able to find that balance of what you share with folks because I know that's also been a big struggle for a lot of us is we have these phenomenal cultural resources, but who and how to share them with is always the tricky part. So I think there's definitely a level of trust that needs to happen and I think exploring different green groups, conservation groups before fully committing perhaps to working with them on a long-term basis is also really important to find the people that you trust and find the organizations that really value your voices and aren't just going to use them for tokenization. And Taylor, work and listeners go to learn more about your work and yeah, so you can go to our website native votes and V as a Nevada dot org. Most of social media were on NVA underscore Nevada. So we are always posting different stuff. We have events happening all of the time and right now we're working on the legislative session. So lots coming up. Well folks, that is all the time we have for today's show on national monument status for land known as equa me in Nevada. I want to thank both my guests today. Taylor Patterson and Alan O'Neill. We are back again tomorrow exploring some of the financial help available for native residents who are struggling to pay their heating bills. Until then, I'm your host, Sean spruce. Program support by amerind. For 30 5 years, Indian country has put its trust in amerind, providing insurance coverage, strengthening Native American communities, protecting tribal sovereignty and keeping dollars in Indian country are Amarin's priorities. More information on property, liability, workers compensation, and commercial auto needs at amerind dot com. That's a MER IND dot com. Support for this program provided by the American Indian higher education consortium. The collective spirit and unifying voice of 37 tribal colleges and universities for over 45 years, a heck has worked to ensure that tribal sovereignty is recognized and respected and that tribal colleges and universities are included in this nation's higher education system. Information on a tribal college or university near you at AI, C dot org. Native America calling is produced in the annenberg national native voice studios in Albuquerque, New Mexico, by chronic broadcast corporation, a native nonprofit media organization. Funding is provided by the corporation for public broadcasting, with support from the public radio satellite service. Music is by Brent Michael Davis. Native voice one, the Native American radio network
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"If you are aged 45 years or older, it may be time to talk with the healthcare professional about colon cancer screening, Medicare, Medicaid and the marketplace have you covered for more information, visit healthcare dot gov or call 803 one 8 two 5 9 6. A message from the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. Thanks for tuning in to native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. We're getting an update on the push to name more than 700 square miles of land in Nevada, a national monument. President Biden promised to put of equal may under federal monument protection. However, just last week he postponed a chance to follow through. Do you have a comment or question about today's show? Are you concerned with the delay regarding federal protections for a week will may might mean? Give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8 one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. Our phone lines are open. We've got Taylor Patterson on the line in Las Vegas, Nevada, where she's the executive director of the native voter alliance of Nevada and Taylor before break you were talking a little bit about the uniqueness of Nevada tribes and with regard to this coast stewardship model. Please continue your what you were saying. Yeah, absolutely. So what I was drawing the comparison to is we have a lot smaller tribes in Nevada and frankly are just under resourced to completely manage a big parcel of land like and so what I was talking about before with all of the tribes that have been involved in this project, it really takes a lot of tribes to put work into this to be able to even get the federal designation, let alone to have complete post stewardship over these parcels of land. And so my point while long winded is that we're smaller tribes out here and it's going to take a lot of us to really be able to band together and get this project done. And so we've seen that with E. coli and the entire process of getting everybody that has ancestral ties involved in this. Also on the show today is Alan O'Neill at former National Park Service superintendent. Alan, do you see any drawbacks to national monument status with regard to tribal lands such as of equal me? No, I don't. Obviously, we see this as an opportunity to have the tribes playing a much larger role in planning and stewardship of this area. But I think the national monument designation was the right vehicle because it provides permanent protection and this is something that tries to an interested in a long time. This is their ancestral lands and it's important that we have that they play a large role in how this is eventually stewarded. This is an important cultural historic landscape, but it's also a very important ecological landscape. This is probably the best this is the best desert tortoise habitat. We have anywhere in Nevada, but as important as it does or tortoises, there's also 50 other plant and animal species that are listed as a special status because there's some concern, but their conservation over long-term. So having that concentration of special status species and this landscape is important that they be protected. That's also the eastern terminus of the world's largest Joshua tree force. In fact, the largest Joshua tree in Nevada is found within this landscape and unusual for the Mojave desert. This is a very unique grasslands, which are usually find in the Mojave desert. So there's like 28 species of native grasses that are in here and very significant for measure. I can't recall any place within the Mojave desert doesn't have these kinds of grasslands. So in addition, this is important for bighorn cheap migration. They move back and forth between these mountains. An important birding area, this area is actually by Audubon as an important birding area. So Jason to the Pacific flyway coming up the Colorado River system, but it also has an unusual combination of bird some of which are more common in the sonoran desert. So in terms of raptor species, there's like 28, 18 different raptor species here. It's also Harry has one of the highest concentrations of goal and eagles anywhere in the states. So, you know, from an ecological and cultural standpoint, this is an incredible landscape, but also for resources like dark knight sky and natural quiet and the visual resource this landscape does offer the opportunity to protect some of The Dark Knight sky and kind of the rural lifestyle here. And Alan, if you could share what was the most pressing threat to me, which makes these protections so valuable. Well, it was in gesture development. Primarily wind development. And some solar. There are two really bad wind projects, a searchlight wind project, followed by which was actually a suit brought by private landowner in here and prevailed against BLM and the courts canceled that project. And then the Crescent peak wind project, which was a devastating wind project in terms of here. It created an industrial island surrounded by area that we worked decades trying to protect and that particular project had like 200 over 200 wind turbines, about 700 feet high with about 20 miles of ridge line. So that would have forever changed us landscape. And so when the department interior and December of 2000 18 cancel that Crescent peak wind project, that was kind of a wake up call that we better get our act together here and determine what it is we want to do collectively to protect us landscape or we're going to we're going to be fighting the next bad project and we're all supportive of renewable energy, but like Taylor said it's it depends upon location. We're possible place you could put. Okay. Yeah, and along those lines with regard to location. I mean, what does this mean for the energy supply without a wind farm at this location of equa may? Are there any alternatives for those projects to still provide renewable energy?
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"National native news is produced by quantic broadcast corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting. Support by sinofsky chambers law, championing tribal sovereignty and Native American rights since 1976 from opioids litigation to treaty rights to tribal self governance, with offices in Washington, D.C., New Mexico, California, and Alaska. Sinofsky chambers law. Support by vision maker media, envisioning a world changed and healed by understanding native stories in the public conversations they generate. 45 plus years of native stories and indigenous knowledge through film and media can be found at vision maker media dot org. Native voice one the Native American radio network. This is native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. Hope rose briefly when The White House announced president Joe Biden would fly to Nevada and formally dedicate 450,000 acres into the aviko may national monument. The administration abruptly canceled that trip, tribes and others say they await further communication from The White House and department of interior on what happens next. Biden has promised the national monument status for the area that at least a dozen tribes consider sacred. Much of the land is already controlled by the bureau of land management. A monument designation will add additional protections while preserving tribal access for cultural and spiritual reasons. the importance of the aviko meland and the work that's been done to gain federal protection. We want to hear from you. What do you think about working together with the federal government to protect important land? Give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's one 809 9 native. Joining us now from Las Vegas, Nevada is Taylor Patterson. She's the executive director of the native voter alliance of Nevada. She's bishop paiute, Taylor, welcome back to native America calling. Thank you so much, Sean. Good morning. And I'm so excited to be here. Good morning to you as well, Taylor. And joining us from Henderson, Nevada, is Alan O'Neill. He's the adviser for the national parks conservation association, founder of get outdoors, Nevada, and a former National Park Service superintendent. Alan, welcome to native America calling. Thank you so much, John. It's a real pleasure to be here. Taylor, this postponement of the national monument dedication. What do you know about the delay and how concerning is it to you? It's definitely disappointing. So this past Friday, march 10th was actually a hundred days since President Biden announced at The White House tribal summit, his intention to designate. So I'm definitely disappointed, you know, we had this big high moment of excitement when news broke and a bunch of leaks happen that the president would be coming out to Las Vegas and would be finally designating the monument. Once we had also learned that those plans had been walked back, it was very disappointing. So I'm just hoping that we can get it soon. And to my knowledge, there's no big issue or I know that was the question on a lot of people's minds was, oh no, is this putting the monument at risk? Is there an issue? Is this not going to be designated moving forward? But I still remain really hopeful that things are going forward as planned. It was just a scheduling issue. Alan, same question to you. I know it's been a few years since you've been personally involved, but how do you feel now that the president is so much closer to designating of equal May as a national monument? Well, we're excited. This will have been a long process. We started this process, I would say, back in the late 1990s, when we were working to get spirit mountain itself designated as a traditional cultural property. And we've been through long process to try and get this landscape protected, fighting really bad industrial level projects in this landscape and our efforts to really work on the national monument started and. Three years ago when the department interior canceled the Crescent peak wind project we got together and decided that if we didn't do anything quickly, we're going to lose us landscape to industrial development, which forever changed the character of this because there's a lot of work over the years that have been done to protect part of the Mojave landscape on the California side with the Mojave national preserve and the Mojave trails national monument and the castle mountains national monument. But that same level of protection wasn't done on the Nevada side over the years. So we even though some of this lot of this landscape was overlaid with area of critical environmental concern to protect the desert, tortoise that was an administrative determination that could be changed by future administrations and sets. So we wanted to have permanent protection. So this effort started in earnest I would say in about march of 2000 and 19 so about three years ago, Taylor, until recently, tribes have been a little bit weary of partnering with the federal government and protecting sacred lands. Can you tell us, what are the advantages and disadvantages that come with this? So of course, I completely understand that weariness and sort of the hesitation because so often we've had issues in the past working with the federal government. I don't need to tell Indian countries how rough it's been for us with the federal government. But when you're looking at a place specifically like Nevada, where we're over 85% public lands, most of the lands that we held sacred are not in tribal control. They're not land that we already have access to nor is Atlanta that we are able to either buy back or to get sovereignty over. So working with the federal government is essential in putting us back into that process and putting tribal leadership back into the conversation. I think it can be really dependent to on the agency you're working with. I know everybody has a different experience in Nevada. We really heavily work with bureau of land management and I know for a lot of the tribes I speak with that are on both sides of the border, whether that's California, Nevada, Arizona, Nevada, you know, we have a lot of tribes that are in both states all over the border of Nevada, the difference in BLM can really vary depending on which side of the border you're on. So it's a process that can be really tough, but I think what's important is that we're the federal government and agencies are getting better at consultation. Is there leaps and bounds that they have to go? Absolutely. But the more we push to work with them, the more they're going to get better at it. And so I think it's a good process. I think we can still grow a lot and I know at the federal level, there's been an effort placed on consultation and going into meaningful consultation. I also know that the state of Nevada has worked at the state legislature level to try to strengthen that Bond. But I know all of the states surrounding us have been working on that process as well. I think some of the issue that occurs when working with the federal government is really
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"National native news is produced by colonic broadcast corporation with funding by the corporation for public broadcasting. Support by Ramona farms offering wholesome and delicious foods from our heirloom crops as our contribution to a better diet for the benefit of all people. We are honored to share our centuries old farming and culinary traditions online at Ramona farms dot com. Support by sinofsky chambers law, championing tribal sovereignty and Native American rights since 1976 from opioids litigation to treaty rights to tribal self governance, with offices in Washington, D.C., New Mexico, California, and Alaska. Sadowski chambers law. Native voice one the Native American radio network. This is Native American calling, I'm Sean spruce. High school basketball seasons are culminating at state tournaments all over the country. Native ball players with their families, fans, and sometimes whole native communities are among those traveling for high stakes, playoff games. Some teams like the ultra say high school girls from the right river Apache reservation and the lap way high school boys team from the nez perce reservation have already brought back state championship trophies. In this hour we'll hear from some of the year's championship winning teams about their seasons, postseason runs, and community involvement. And we sure hope you join us. Native basketball players are working hard all across the country, so please give a shout out to your favorite high school basketball teams by calling one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. Our first guest is joining us from lap way Idaho. Zachary eastman. He's the head coach for the lap way high school varsity boys basketball team. He's crow. Go cheeseman. Welcome to the show. Hi, how's it going? It's going great and I want to congratulate you lap way wildcats just when the Idaho state basketball championship that puts the team's winning streak at 62 games is that a record? Yes, but we actually we didn't win this year. We've actually wanted the past two years and we actually did lose in the state championship this year to another Native American team out of the quarter lane. Reservation. And we were on a 62 game win streak and we lost an overtime and by two points. Oh my gosh, that's just a heartbreaker. I'm sorry to hear that. How'd your players take it? You know, being young athletes, I think they took it very well. When you have all that kind of pressure on you and you have your work so hard to play one game, it definitely is heartbreaking, but we taught our boys that basketball is just a part of life. And we can use these tools and losses as tools for moving forward into whatever they want to do in their careers. And the team was it a younger team this season or do you have a lot of seniors? Yeah, so Laplace, we usually only graduate about 40 kids every year. We're in one of the smallest schools to visions. In our school program, we actually had over 40 boys in our program in the last for the last three years. So you're saying we have about 80 to 90% of the boys in our program. We have three teams and this year we had 5 seniors. And next year, we are returning three of our starters from two of them have started the last three years. So we have a lot of players returning also. Now, I've had the pleasure of visiting lap way a number of times. I've seen the wildcats, both the boys and girls play in the past, and I know that tradition there is really strong. And about what age in the community to the kids start playing basketball. Well, they start playing recreational basketball and AAU probably at the age of 5 is when they start getting serious before then. It's all up to if the parents will let them play with the big people are not. But at the age of 5, they are already on teams. There are a traveling and they're already getting structure, basketball already. Now, other than this loss there at the end of the season, tell us, I mean, obviously I'm still extremely successful season. I mean, you went undefeated. Get some highlights. So over the past four years, we are 98 and 9. We won back to back state titles in 2021 and 2022. We've sent over 8 players to college and play in college basketball right now currently from our program. Last year, we were voted max press team of the year. We have a current priority team that has over 5 division one scholarships. Last year, we had a player named Titus Europe. He won the highest honor individual where you can win and your state is called Gatorade player of the year. And now he is a point guard at the university of Idaho. So we do have a lot of success and also we've won the district title the last three years. We're tied for the state title record for 12 state titles and the girls program actually is the leader in state tiles with 12. And last year was one of the year they've done a multiple of times where the boys and girls have both won it in the same year. And how did the girls team do this season? They actually did the same thing we did and so it was both a heartbreaking year for the last wave and the community. But again, they were super young. They have 6 freshmen that played a lot. So you're saying for the next four years, they're going to be right back in the state championship every year. Well, I know there's a saying up there in lap, where you folks don't rebuild, you reload, and it sounds like that's just going to happen. Yeah, and then another thing is that we love to say we don't love basketball here. We live basketball. There you go. Well, and tell us more about the girls because you have a lot of young men who are playing now at the college level. And is that the same for the girls? Yes, yes. Currently we do. This year they only had one senior and she is going to go on to cause I'm not exactly sure where, but she is a very talented player. And also, they have the culture's daughter, Jalen, McClure, and she's only a freshman. She's all state. And she's definitely going to be one of the highly recruited players coming on a lap way in the few years. And they are just like the boys program. They set their program up to get their players ready for the next level. And I believe the girls have just as many players go to college as the bullies program.
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"You're listening to native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. We're focusing on the effects of the Shasta dam on tribes in Northern California, especially the winter tribe. A new podcast, a prayer for salmon tells the story of the tribe's connection to the land and wildlife. If you have a question or comment, join our conversation at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. I'd like to bring in our second guest now, Judy, silver reporter for the podcast series. Judy, what led you to this story about the minimum win to? Yeah, so led me to the story as I was sort of hunting around for stories. I was interested in water and the connection to spirituality. And someone referred me to the winning moment too. And so I talked with two tribal members have an extensive conversation by phone, and they said, hey, you know, you should come out to our runs for salmon ceremony. Which was in September. This was September of 2017. And so that year, this month for salmon is a two week ceremony. At that time, it was going from the Bay Area all the way up to the mccloud river, which is a 300 mile journey. And participants run, walk, bike, boat, paddle, and so the first couple, the first couple days is walking. And so I went out and did the walking portion of the run. And just immediately was really taken by on several levels. You know, as a reporter, I'm always taken by story. Like I'm always impressed by good stories, and I knew right away, oh, my reporter instincts those kicked in right away, like this is a great story. You have a non recognized tribe who is fighting for salmon, fighting for their rights fighting for justice. And they faced incredible hardship and are also incredibly resilient. And so I just knew, right away, okay, story wise, this is great. And then just the people and the people really impressed me. I was really just taken by how strong their convictions are and sort of how righteous their convictions are and I just wanted to learn and know more. And so we almost immediately started talking about a podcast and I wrote a grant FC got the grant and then started by reporting. Wonderful, wonderful. Let's go ahead and hear now from another one of the collaborators on this podcast series. Doctor Lila June and Lila, I know you're traveling right now. I think you're in an airport, but I really appreciate you being able to join us today and tell us more about your connection to the winner and win two people and this podcast. Well, it's hard to believe it was about 12 years ago. That I approached Kalin at a fundraiser in Berkeley at the time I was a junior at Stanford University and I wanted to do an honors thesis report and I remember praying to the creator I said, okay, creator, can you help me do some research that's not just going to sit on a shelf and no one will ever read it? Can you help me do a research report that's actually going to help going to effectuate change? And then someone sent me a video of calling speaking in front of the Sacramento capital and my whole body just reverberated as oh, there it is. That's where I'm doing my research project. I think if they'll let me. So I approached her and I said, hey, I'm just describing Navajo, but I want to help, I'm just kidding. But I offered her offered her a barrette, a beaded barrette of a dragonfly, and I said, well, you know, the dragonfly, their eggs are in the water, and then they hatch and they arise out of the water. And I'm hoping that, you know, this is a metaphor for us to arise out of the waters of this reservoir of this dam. And she said, yep, let's do it. So then I got to live with the minimum on and off for about two years. Row of 50 page report on the network of their sacred sites, their altitudes, which ones would be flooded by how much feet I also did some anthropological work on what each sacred site means and we really just created a map. We mapped out the whole network of sacred sites and we concluded that over 50 sacred sites would be flooded or otherwise affected by the raising of the shots of them. Now, doctor June, how similar are these issues with regard to this fight, this environmental fight of the winter, and other environmental issues that you're familiar with? Well, I think as a native person, there's always, there's always the company, the CEO, the greed, that sees the living earth as an object to be bought and sold rather than a living, breathing mother, to be honored and respected. They want to be the masters of nature rather than the children of nature. And so I think it's just that paradigm that when Europeans were in 2000 years of warfare, they got really messed up, you know? They've got a lot of trauma and they were having a really open dog eat dog warfare for 2000 years. They start to want to hoard everything and amass wealth. And it becomes normalized through this thing called the company. It becomes normalized through this thing called business. It becomes normalized through this thing called profit maximization. And all of that is the same old story of folks doing this when our paradigm as native people is closer to reality where we recognize we're in a sacred place. This whole earth is sacred and we are sacred and so we have to act sacred, but to the businessmen, you have a hard time explaining what that word sacred even means. Now, doctor June, in the podcast, we learned that the tribe is ignored, not recognized by those who have power in the Shasta dam issue and earlier we heard chief siskin. Alluded to those same issues. Why is that? Why aren't more people paying attention to what this research as well as chief siskin and others are trying to say? Well, I actually think she's cis and correct me if I'm wrong, but has been very successful in saving off the dam raise. I mean, 12 years ago, they were doing EIS reports environmental impact statements. So they haven't been able to do it in 12 years. And I honestly feel like a lot of that has to do with chief Colleen and her nation who have done the war dance at the dam and said no. And that ward ends with so it's not just important from a media standpoint, but spiritually it reverberated throughout
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"This is native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. A major oil drilling project proposed for Alaska's north slope promises much needed jobs and revenue for Alaska native people and others in the country's largest state. The willow project by Conoco Phillips could generate a 180,000 barrels of oil a day. It has a support of the Arctic slope regional corporation and all of Alaska's congressional delegation, including the newly elected Alaska native Democrat, Mary peltola. Among the benefits they say is up to $17 billion in revenue, according to the federal bureau of land management. But it's not all about the economic benefits. Critics, including many of the people who live near the proposed drilling site, say the development alone poses very real problems for the fragile ecology of the area, and beyond that the emissions from the oil over the lifetime of the project contributes to the growing problem of climate change that is a very real danger for the Alaskan native residents, watching the thawing permafrost and rising sea levels that are destroying their land homes and subsistence way of life. The Biden administration is set to make a recommendation for or against the project as early as next week. Today we'll hear some of the arguments about what's at stake with the willow project. We also want to hear from you. Can the vast oil reserves in Alaska help guard against the current instability of global energy economics? Or is the cost too high? It is a time to make more investments in alternative energy. Give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8 to share your thoughts. That's one 809 9 native. One note of disclosure, ConocoPhillips, the corporation that proposes the willow project is an underwriter for quantic broadcast corporation, Native American callings, parent company. Joining us first from Washington D.C. is a naga rook hark chark. He is the president of the voice of the Arctic a new pit. He is a new act from barrow, Alaska. Nagar, welcome to native America calling. Thank you, Sean. I'm glad to be here. Well, tell us more about the willow project. Why do you support it and why is it good for your people? Thanks for the question. And if I could, I'd start by kind of introducing the organization just to set some context. So the voice of the Arctic, India, the organization that I represent was established in 2015 to advocate on issues important tools because north slope and our constituents are board includes 24 member organizations that represent the indigenous people from the various communities. So city tribes or cities tribes, some of the regional organizations like north slope borough, some of the village corporations from across the slope. So the biggest reason I think we support the willow project is the economic benefit that the development has provided to the region since the 70s when this all kind of kicked off. Has made drastic changes in the lives of the people. We went from third world conditions in the first world conditions. I can remember as a kid when they installed the flush toilet in my house. When we were growing up, I remember folks still going out to lakes to get sea to get Lake ice to be able to provide fresh water. So now we have running water, sewer, we've got police and fire protection in the community about search and rescue services in the communities. You've got a department of wildlife management that helps protect our systems resources. So all of these economic benefits that has enhanced our lives both economically and from a subsistence perspective, providing jobs that folks can afford snowmobiles, ATVs, firearms, ammunition, supplemental food, maybe from grocery stores, all of those things that allow us to live in this more modern world that we've adapted to and adapted very well to and have taken advantage of all those benefits. That's why we support the project. Many of our listeners are down in the lower 48 and many perhaps have maybe never even been to Alaska and don't really understand just what the lifestyle is there and what some of these dynamics are with regard to the oil industry. So if you could help out those listeners and really explain to them and tell them, what is it that they need to understand about this willow project there in Alaska? I guess thing is how the revenue is generated for the communities on the north slope. That's oftentimes lost on folks. So back in the 1970s, the our leaders are past leaders and my mentors utilized the laws that they had in front of them to benefit from the development that was going to take place. How do we maximize the benefit on the development? It's surely going to take place. So they decided to form the north Flo burrow. The north slope borough through the laws have the ability to tax oil infrastructure, that's on the land. That tax that they get provides for all of the services that I mentioned in my during the last question. All of those services. So if that gets turned off, or if we're not allowed to expand, something's got to give at some point from the economic standpoint. The money's not coming in, meanwhile, things are getting seemingly more expensive. Things start to kind of take a turn for the worse as far as that continued maintenance that's required on some of the systems that I mentioned. And so if we're not allowed to continue to benefit economically from the resources that we have available to us, there's a possibility that we may go back in lifestyle over the course of time. Alrighty, okay. Well, thank you for helping us set the tone of today's conversation. I want to bring in our next guest now, who is also joining us from Washington, D.C., doreen, leavitt. She is the director of natural resources for the inupiat community of the Arctic slope, and she's also a tribal member of the inupiat community. And she is a new biak. Doreen.
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"So when you were talking about what Larry did and why he did it, you have to understand what was going on in Gallup. You have to understand how we were being treated. How during the intertribal ceremonial distribute to American Indian people, they would go around in patty wagons, those police patty wagons. And they would pick up people who are inebriated. But they would not take them immediately over to the jail. They would wait until they had it packed with men and women of all ages, getting sick in there during the summer. And as young people, very helped us organize. John helped us organize. Peter's in saw helped us organize. Against the intertribal ceremonial and getting recognition by the Gallup police that, hey, we are concerned about how our relatives are being treated. And we were able to ride along and make sure that our relatives weren't being mistreated. When I was in the 5th grade, I was born to boarding school at Rehoboth. And I remember catching the bus and they called it the great goose. And it would go from winder rock out towards church truck and then back, that was kind of a little route there. And I remember going down to where the old were the bus station is now. And I had to walk through this through these two blocks and they talk about a barn every block. They were like two bars must have been like four bars on every block. And people were drunk out of the brains, you know? And these were our people. And there was no alcohol limit, you know, or if you're inebriated, you can't be sold anymore alcohol. Gallup was notorious. It was an ugly place. And this is, and this is what we were trying to bring out and tell people about. And nobody would. If we could click ahead now, reflecting on the life of Larry casus, who is your friend, and here we are today exactly 50 years after his death, because we are going to have to wrap up the show here in just another couple of minutes. What do you want any young native activists listening to understand about Larry casus and all these events we're talking about today? Do you need to understand that vary with all about our history? Larry wanted our history out there for our young people. And it wasn't there. And so this history that we're all talking about, is the Gallup independent putting that in their newspaper? No. Is the Albuquerque journal putting it in their newspaper? No. Where else? On the border towns. You know, this is the border town story. And so for our young people who are out there in the border towns who have lived this life and understand it and yes, there has been some improvements, but there is still that racism there. There is still a need for Indian centers in all of those border towns for our voices. We have every right to have a voice, especially our young people, because in gal, they recently did an investigative piece on how most of the students that are being kicked out of the Gallup schools are native students through the net. And so all right. What we're talking about is that dream that Larry had of equality and just and I'd like to give John red House the last word John, we have about a minute before we have to wrap up. But what do you want? Our young native activists to understand reflecting back now 50 years. I think that need to recognize that Larry brave now, a lawyer and a leader. Many of the ultimate sacrifice for his people. And we must have an undying love for our people. Blood of our same blood flesh is the same flesh. And that the situation demands that we commit and dedicate our lives. To the to the improvement of the president and future state of Indian people. And it's going to take that kind of commitment and sacrifice to the relief of a better life for our people. So the changes are made that we can see and feel and that are lasting and I think that that would that would feel much of Larry's dream and vision and that that's what we should strive inspire for in the course of our work. Well, folks that we are at a time now, the hour just flew by and really a wonderful discussion really appreciate all of our guests today and the perspectives and the memories that were shared as well. Priceless. Priceless to hear the thoughts of so many people, as well as the caller that we took as well. So once again, I'd like to thank our guests, John red House, Marley Shaba, David Korea, and Jennifer denel for sharing their memories and insights on the legacy of Larry kas. Join us here at native America calling again tomorrow as we take a look at a new large scale oil drilling proposal on the Arctic slope of Alaska. 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"Support by sinofsky chambers law, championing tribal sovereignty and Native American rights since 1976 from opioids litigation to treaty rights to tribal self governance, with offices in Washington, D.C., New Mexico, California, and Alaska. Sinofsky chambers law. Support by AARP, AARP creates and connects people to unique tools and programs helps conserve personal resources and tackles issues that matter most to individuals, families and communities, more at AARP dot org. Your listening to native America calling, I'm Sean spruce. We're continuing our conversation about the occupation of wounded knee and there's still time to join our conversation. So what are you waiting for? Call us. One 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. One 809 9 6 two 8 four 8, especially anyone listening up in pine ridge. We really want to hear what the impact of the occupation was on tribal members. When it occurred in 1973 and what it means today, 50 years later, one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8 give us a call. Let's talk to our third guest now again, Russ daibo. He's up in Canada. Russ tell us more what led you to wounded knee in 1973. Well, for me, I was a teenager then. And I was trying to learn more about Indian rights and I was actually at the takeover of the bureau of Anita Ferris building in November of 1972. Hitchhiked down there after it started. And I met Lakota people there. And I found out about the trail broken treaties that was a caravan that went across the country. I didn't know that. I just saw what was on TV. And I started learning about the broken treaty and what was going on. And of course, the Nixon administration wanted everybody out of there. So they paid for everybody to leave the building. And a few months later, that's when the situation came on the news again. And I remembered meeting the Lakota people in Washington, D.C.. And I didn't go there until March, myself, it was when they kicked the media out, and you started hearing on the newest government sources said today kind of thing. So there was like a blackout, so I hitchhiked out there to find out what was going on to South Dakota and I came in through Gordon, Nebraska. I hitchhiked to there and I was walking north and a car a little bit of Lakota picked me up. And they said, are you going to the knee? And I said, yeah, and it took me to the edge. The reservation and they pointed to this house and it had some outbuildings and he said, good down there. They're going to take you in. Into the knee. So I walked down the hill, went there. And as soon as I got into the yard, somebody came out of the house and said, get in the barn. And I went in the barn and there was all these other people standing around. And they said, we're going to go in when it gets dark. So we all had to take pack loads of supplies. What the previous speaker was talking about, we were part of that local people taking outside people into wounded me. And I had about, I don't know, 80 pounds of supplies that they put into the pack and told me to carry in. So there was at least a dozen of us like that each carrying a pack of supplies in. And so they let us in and we had to it's a hilly country. We had to stay in the valleys and go through at night. Avoiding the U.S. Marshals and their armored personnel carriers and the FBI and horseback and all that stuff. And they got us into wounded knee just before dawn. It was about an 8 mile hike. And we got in there. And once I got in there, then they had people processing people were coming in, finding out who they were and then telling them, giving them assignments, I was a transient, I guess you could say like others that came and went. Because I was inside, I wanted me for a week. But it was a very intense experience war like I guess you could say with firefights, flares and all of that. But they told me to sleep in the church and appeal that white church on the hill. That's where I slept the whole time. I was there. And they told me during the day to go into this one bunker. Just left of that church, not too far from where the main burial site was from the massacre. And after the day was done, then they said I could do what I want after my duty at the bunker. And so I would go down and listen at headquarters there where I'd listen to the radio chatter. Between the frontline bunkers and they also monitored the U.S. Marshals and the FBI chatter on the radio. And then at night Russell Means in Dennis Banks would give an update on the talks with the federal government. And when I was there, there was about two or 300 people and wounded me, I think. And a lot of people were coming and going all the time like myself. And after I figured out what was going on, I learned about the growth and then the groans and us grow the civil rights organization asking him to come in and everything. I had an idea of what they were trying to negotiate. And there was a young Lakota guy after about a week, he was 17 years old too, my same age. He was from porcupine South Dakota about 8 miles north. And he said, I'm going home. Do you want to come out with me? And I said, sure, I'll go with you. So he led me out of wounded me again under the cover of darkness and we made it to his family's home in porcupine. And they hid me there for about a week before they could get me off the reservation to take a bus to go back home? Because they didn't want dick Wilson and his goal is to see me there. So it was kind of a wartime situation to a lot of tense. I could only go out at night because he didn't want any neighbors to see me. And outside for two weeks old together. Two weeks. And then what was it rusted that prompted you to want to leave after two weeks as opposed to staying longer? Well, I went there to try and find out what was going on because like I said, I was at the takeover to be a building. And that's where I started to learn about the treaty of fort Laramie of 1868 and what was going on and I went to wounded knee because there was a media blackout, right? On what was happening. So I went there to try and figure out what the real situation was because I was a teenager, trying to learn more about rights. About these treaties, because I'm a Mohawk, you know, member of the holder in the Shawnee confederate. So we have our own history, our own treaties. But I was just starting to learn then. And I figured that I had a good idea of what the conflict was about. And I was a high school dropout at that time, but that experience being in firefights and that at one point I was out in open field and flare went up and I was walking with Alaska native guy named angel. That's how I knew him by. And he said, hit the ground. And so we were laying on the ground in this open field on our way up to that church. And then a firefight started. And so we were out in the open during that firefight. And you could see the tracer bullets and not coming from near my personnel carriers. And there were other firefights when I was there, but that was the one where I felt most vulnerable because I was out in the open. Anyway, we had to wait for the flares to stop and the firefight and to make it high tail it up to the church. And all those experiences led me to get my finish my high school education and go start going
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"Thank you for listening to native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. We're hearing different perspectives from folks who are at the occupation of wounded knee, which began 50 years ago today. If you'd like to contribute any insights today's conversation, you can call us at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. You can also leave a post on our social media. Speaking now with Walter, little moon, he was a resident near wounded knee at the time of the occupation and Walter, you know, when you talk about the occupation now with other people's pine ridge residents, reflecting back now 50 years later, what do you hear from them? Do they have similar memories such as yourself, just some of these memories you shared? Exactly. Beneficial, many more or less blamed only community residents for creating the AMP coming in and, you know, like I said, earlier, we didn't even know that they were coming to one that day. But after they were there, and we got blamed for just about everything, whether it was in pine ridge, or Kyle. So they come from a wounded list. Don't even talk to them. Don't even think about them. So what's happening there is your own fault. Now, cepha like that. It was very hurtful. But in a way, what took place during that time when the shooting started was that a lot of the aim members would start breaking into houses. And started vandalizing and looting everything that they had. Other people had. Beadwork or even cast iron kettle pots cooking pots. That were handed down through their own grandparents. A lot of that stuff, this disappeared. But we know for a fact that there were people going in and out just about every night. It was a certain route that they used. So a lot of stuff like that, you know, they start burning things. I know they burnt my uncle's place. And they broke into my mother's house and just tore the hold down a house down completely. The real fulfilling on the ground, all the boards were lined with bumpers. They even took our stove, heating stones up there. There are a lot of these things is how I remember that occupation. That's one of the reasons I have nothing to do with either group. Because they did a lot of harm, the elderly people and wounded knee are all gone now. They're all passed away with broken hearts. aim didn't care. They didn't even come back to one, didn't they? Just one person came back. And here on this stage because he just wanted to show off his 19 57 Thunderbird classic. Which probably cost him about 35, $40,000. I don't know where he got the money from, but I suspect he got it from donations. But Dave and I donation that did come along with me. Ended up in pinery. All the charitable churches. They were all running some kind of. Ring there, getting donations. Whether it was food, money, clothing, and then they would turn around and say, we don't have anything. And everything's already been given out. But it ended up that you were given a home relations. But nobody in all that, so that's how we had to survive. But I had nothing. Not even buckets to haul water in. There was only one way that we could walk in order to get water. And we've got jokes plastic yelling. Two at a time on these social like the data was a long stick across the back. We walked down the road. We had to walk right in in the center of the little and if we didn't do that, then they threatened to shoot us. How are they U.S. Marshals? But they also treated us with respect and word of the tribal council, police, public safety, the police department. Was there mostly harassing us? One way or another, it would drive through and finally the Marshalls is ordered them out. So a lot of things like that that people don't want to talk about. Okay, all right. I'm sorry to, you know, we're just so fascinating welter, but I know we've got that heart out with you and you have to move on and we have other guests as well. So really want to thank you for joining us today, Walter and sharing your memories again, folks. It was Walter, little moon. He was a resident at wounded knee during the time of the occupation. He is oglala Lakota and northern Cheyenne, and I know you want to go Walter your memories are very valuable, but we do are going to go ahead and move on with the conversation. Now, and Dwayne, I want to go back to you and we have Dwayne camp, panca elder, who was also a warrior there at wounded. And Dwyane give us, again, a little bit more context here. What was the main motivating factor during the standoff there for aim? When I first went back, it was because in the very beginning, rather Carter said they were in a hell of a fight and that was I could hear the gunfire. And I arrived there early on. And got a real education. And the elder, the spoke just a moment ago, I'd like to say that living in a war zone being a problem there must have been horrible. And I'm very sorry for the pain and the terrible loss that the residents and those of that area felt. Because it was a war zone, and there were people being killed on both sides. We had not just the Justice Department in the military, the U.S. Military against aim, but also the goon squad the oglala, the dick Wilson, the corrupt chairman, the really lit the match on this thing. I'm going to need he had this bunch of guys that had a horrible reputation. Anyway, they called themselves the goon squad, and that said for a guardian of the nation. They liked that. They wanted to be called the gun squad. Anyway, when brother Carter meeting with the Ocala at calico hall prior to wounded knee, they chose him. They asked him to come in first, not any
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"This is native American calling, I'm Sean spruce. The occupation of wounded knee, South Dakota remains one of the most pivotal moments in Native American activism. Today marks the 50th anniversary of the start of the 71 day armed standoff between the federal government and the fledgling, American Indian movement. Aim was flexing its muscles, raising awareness of continued oppression by the U.S. government and the lack of accountability for broken treaties, and the corrupt and dangerous governance on the pine ridge reservation became a flash point. Today, we'll get an accounting of the events that wounded knee from people who were there. As always, we encourage listeners to chime in. Do you remember the occupation or when you first learned about it? Were you at wounded knee in 1973, and we especially want to hear from folks from the ogla nation today about what that event means to you. Join our conversation by calling one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. You can also post a comment on our social media, our Twitter handle is one 8 zero zero 9 9 native. Joining us from ponca tribal land in the state of Oklahoma is Dwayne Kemp. He is a warrior from wounded knee and an elder who is panca. Duane, welcome to native America calling. Thank you. Joining us for a Myrtle Beach, South Carolina is Walter little moon. He was a resident of wounded knee at the time of the occupation. He is oglala Lakota and northern Cheyenne, Walter, welcome to native America calling as well. Now, and joining us from Ottawa Ontario in Canada is Russ daibo. He is a First Nations policy analyst. He is Kane waggy, Mohawk, Russ. Welcome to native America calling to. Thank you. Dwayne, I'd like to go ahead and start with you today. You traveled to wounded knee in 1973 along with your two brothers. What inspired you all to make that trip? Well, we traveled separately as a matter of fact, the three of us and just for the record, they had quite a meeting prior to wounded near the place called calico. There are calico hall and the ogallala got together and they met and representatives from aim were there and they asked our brother Carter Carter cap to lead the first contingent of warriors in. And he writes about that afterwards as a very moving how he prayed prior to actually going into wounded knee and he prayed to Wakanda and also to the oglalas that had suffered so much because of when did they and he led the first contingent in brother Craig and I were there shortly afterwards and we stayed throughout the 71 day occupation. And I lived down here in Parker country, but our pocket countries I said was once right up at that border between Nebraska and South Dakota. That was originally our country before we were marched down here at gunpoint. And incidentally, that was our trail of tears. And it's been called footprints and blood because when the park is went in to see the Indian agent down here, they left bloody footprints because of that rock. We lost about a third of the park on that rock. That was our trail of tears. At any rate, I'm glad you guys are putting the word out about wounded me. It was, it was a game changer. There's been a whole different native experience since that period of time and I know because I'm ancient. I was born in the depths of the depression, The Great Depression, and I recall how it was for the biggest part of my life prior to wounded knee and the wave of pride that has kept rolling through native country since that period of time. Well, the way thanks for leading us off and we're definitely going to talk more about your experiences, but I want to go to Walter now. Walter, as someone who lived very close to the village of wounded knee at that time, how did the occupation impact your community? This was something that was, we didn't know, we didn't even expect that. I knew there were coming into pine ridge from calico. But on top of the BIA buildings, you could see machine guns and bags all lined up there. And so when the aim members came from Kelly call, instead of stopping in a pine ridge, they made a left turn and drove into wounded knee. So my brother and I, we had picked up our brother from the hospital. We are taking him home. And so we left him, my mother's place. And then we came back and stayed around my mother's place, just watching them making sure he would be okay for the night. Next morning, guy rolled up and said, trading post is open. If you got any bills and if you need any groceries, go down there and help yourself. Did everything's going to be free. So Ben and I, we walked down there and the whole wanted me trading for this completely destroyed. Shells were sitting there people walking around pushing carts. Little loading up anything that they could. And they're accept mops, brooms, stuff like that. Just that you couldn't use. When anyway, after that, we heard from people coming by and say, you know, this belongs to aim now. And I couldn't understand what they were talking about. So that's been I said, we'll go back down to the trading post and see what information we could find. And I'm trying to understand what's going on. And we've got when we got there to the trading post, they said that they had taken prisoners for prisoners. It might have been 5. But there were prisoners up at the Catholic Church. So we decided to walk up and see if we could talk to them. And all of these aim people came out, and they all had rifles. They don't even pointed a rifle in my chest and kept hitting me on the chest with his rifle. He said, as far as you understood, the local people were supposed to be left alone. So I said, we are local people. These are people that we know we know and we grew up with them. And they wouldn't let us in. So if you go in and you talk to them, they say, we're going to shoot you. We're going to kill you
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"Teeth. Medicaid and chip cover made the children's dental services including the training for a treatment and feelings. For more information about children's mental health, contact your healthcare provider, visit T-shirt, kid now dot gov or call 877-543-7669. On message from the centers for Medicare and Medicaid services. You're listening to Native American galling. I'm Sean spruce. We're talking with award winning writer and filmmaker, Julian brave noise cat today. He's our February native in the spotlight. He's a strong voice when it comes to native advocacy. If you have comments or questions for him, you're welcome to join the conversation. We're at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's one 809 9 native. Julian, before break, you were talking a little bit about the ground penetrating radar and the significance of that with regard to these Canadian residential schools. And you were sharing a little bit of family history and this is personal for you. Yeah, I mean, essentially, the difficulty and challenge of doing this project for me personally, and I think for everybody involved with the investigation, whether or not they're making a film about it. Is that the residential school experience was from sort of my family's perspective and I think my community's perspective. So horrible that it wasn't talked about often. My grandmother, for example, still rarely if ever talks about what happened at the schools and there's really just a couple stories that she shares that I've heard those stories many times now. And a lot of her experiences just stuff that she doesn't feel comfortable speaking about. She's gotten support to help with all of it. But it's largely unspoken, which I think is, I think, speaks to just how awful the experience was, that it's the kind of trauma that people, you know, aim to memory hole and forget and not talk about it. And then I think it also speaks to, I believe, as a storyteller and as someone who believes the power of words, I think that part of the challenge of getting through this trauma is our ability to actually talk about what has happened because once we speak to that truth and talk about what had happened and how that impacted our families and how that is still impacting so it's still impacting us. I think that that's how we can actually start to really heal and to work through some of these challenges. But without being able to talk about it, it's very hard to do any of that. So that's been essentially what this project has been about for me and I think what it's been about for so many of the other people involved and it's been incredibly it's been like honestly one of the greatest solders of my life to watch. To have the opportunity to do this with myself with my family and then also to watch other members of our community take this on so bravely and to speak their truth and to try to try to move forward despite some truly awful, awful things. Now you recently traveled to the Vatican I assume it was with regard to these issues and the upcoming documentary. I actually tried to sneak into the back. Yes. And both me and my co direct, you did. And I tried to sneak it because I knew she was going to try to think in to try to get the shot. And I guess I could say one of us succeeded in one of us did not, but we both tried. Okay, wait, how does this work? How does somebody how do you sneak into I mean, that's a heavily armed, it's basically a fortress, isn't it? It is a fortress. There's a lot of levels of security. You know, we took different approaches. I'll say one of us, one of us was with our participant, one of our subjects was part of the delegation of survivors who went for the Pope's apology to residential school survivors. And so she. Emily tried that angle of going with going with our subject. And then I tried the angle of talking my way in saying like, oh, what do you mean? I'm not on the list. And one of us had more success than the others, and that's probably a story that we should Dave until the documentaries out. But it's a really, it was quite the experience. And you know, what was really fascinating about it to me was so ironic was that the Catholic Church was doing this apology to residential school survivors. And yet they would not let any outside media into the actual room where the apology was being delivered to cover it. So, and this is at the same time as they have not released a lot of documents still with regards to the residential school experience. So on the one hand, they wanted to say, sorry, and they wanted to finally let the truth be known, but they wouldn't even let outside media into the actual chamber where the apology happened, which was, in my opinion, he delivered the entire apology in Italian to a room full of people who did not speak Italian. You know, it was a big kind of anti climactic moment anyways. And yet they let us in because it's the Catholic Church. It was so it was so strange. I interviewed somebody else who was there and she said, we didn't even know what was happening. It was all an Italian and he just kind of was talking and then somebody later said, oh yeah, he apologized or something like that. It was just like really non significant for those people that were in the room. One that he ended it by going bye bye.
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"Were. Yeah, she did. She wore a bandolier bag, it's kind of going back to what you were saying before. I did that in order to do something more aligned with my Mississippi route. And the title of that bag is cutting them but in my accent. And I made that bag with the understanding of at the time I was I'm starting to learn choctaw, which is my dad's first language. And I am such a linguistics nerd that I was reading this article that said that if you learn a language after 9 years old, you're always going to have your first accent in that language. Just the way that your mouth and your developed? So I thought about how going back to its my traditional language. But I'm going to have my own accent today. So I wanted to do kind of a traditional bandolier bag with my kind of take on it. So those are my florals and my kind of fill and the treatment of the bag itself the closer closure. Is more my style. But it's recognizably talked of, which I hope one day to get there in my language. But yeah, that was one of the largest pieces that I've finished and it's definitely in the new upswing of me putting more meaning into my work. Okay. And where can our listeners go to see more of your work Hollis? I am so lazy. I just have an Instagram. It's. Okay. I know you mentioned an Instagram as well. Can you give us more details on where listeners can see your feed work? Yeah, sure. I have a full-time job, so I'm like the other artists I just have an Instagram and a Facebook. So my Instagram is at Taos PA Al V tails TA Al ez and then my Facebook is tally motto. Okay, all righty. I want to go to brocade and brocade. What tips do you have for anybody who wants to just start beating someone like myself? Somebody in the middle age, you just, because I'm always kind of wanted to try it. It looks so cool and I especially like the sports medallions and things like that. Where does somebody start? So first, I would definitely understand that it will build your patients. Because when you're first starting, you are going to break needles. You're going to break this and you're just going to put down your Bieber. And walk away, maybe even throw it. So definitely, it's a beginning process and you're going to build your patients. But I would definitely look at what you want to be and then look at pictures as somebody how to beat it. I have people asking me all the time. I really want to make a cradle board so I've had some classes where they can come in and look at my cradle boards, ask me questions, and I can share with them how I was taught to be a cradle board because everyone has their own different styles. People beat on different canvases, leather, you know, bucks getting. They all do it different, but I just show them how I do it. So I would definitely just ask somebody and ask them how to show you how to bead. And yeah. All right. Well, I think I need to do that then. I need to get after it. And tally, let me ask, is it expensive? Is there does it cost a lot of money to get started beating or can I do it on a budget? You could probably do it on the budget. I like really pretty shiny things. So my materials that I use are kind of more expensive, but I think nowadays, people even artists like me were more willing to regenerate. You know, that's just in our nature. So somebody wants to start and they don't have materials, I'm like, hey, you know, if you need some, come up through my stuff, take what you need. I'm all for helping other indigenous artists out because how old are they not going to get started? So I can help someone in any way start beating like brocade said, you know, just pick up that needle and start and if they need a little helping hand, I'm all for helping, but if you go online, there's wholesale places like the beach argan pretty expensive. money goes to be they're going to beat store in a heaven, but of course you do have budgets and stuff like that. But just ask around those people in your communities that will definitely help and teach if you don't know anything. You know, just as long as you have that desire and that passion to start because that's why we do it, I think that's why I do it because I want the younger generations to keep this form of artwork going and it is our work. A lot of people, I think when I was first starting out as a beadwork artist, I didn't call myself a artist. I just did it, you know? But now that it's becoming more on an international platform and we're teaching it more in our communities and it's becoming a lost part. I think the more spaces we offer for indigenous artists, I don't care if someone doesn't say beadwork as me. That's fine. I'm all for it. I welcome it. It's not competition to me because the more spaces we create for indigenous artists, it's less space for indigenous artists to sell products saying that the speed work, you know? So that's kind of my philosophy behind it. Folks, we are going to have to wrap up the show now, but before we do big thanks to our guest today, Kathy Mattis, sherry, Ferrell, russet, Nico Williams, brocades, stops black ego, talento, and Hollis Cheeto. Do you want to scan tomorrow for the National Congress of American Indians state of indonesians address? I'm your host, Sean spruce. Thank you for listening. Program support by amerind. For 35 years, Indian country has put its trust in amaranth, providing insurance coverage, strengthening Native American communities, protecting tribal sovereignty and keeping dollars in Indian country are Amarin's priorities. More information on property, liability, workers compensation, and commercial auto needs at amerind dot com. That's a MER IND dot com. Support by the American Indian college fund. The American Indian college fund provides millions of dollars of scholarships to thousands of native students every year. Tribal citizens of every age and experience are eligible. 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"This is native America calling, I'm Sean spruce. Leonard peltier was arrested 47 years ago this month in connection with the murder of two FBI agents on the pine ridge reservation in South Dakota. His supporters are steadfast in finding a means to free the 78 year old ojibwe man, so he can live out the remainder of his life with his loved ones. In an interview with The Guardian earlier this month, peltier said if he were free, he would build a home on his tribal land, help build the economies of native nations and give a home to homeless native children. At the time he had spent behind bars, peltier has been portrayed as a political prisoner, an innocent man in the wrong place at the wrong time, or a murderous thug, depending on who you ask. About the only fact that most people agree on is peltier was present during the shootout in which FBI agents Jack koller and Ronald Williams were first wounded, then shot and killed at close range. Do you follow the peltier case? You can give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's one 800. 9 9 native. We want to put out a reminder that emotions run high on this topic. If you're calling in, we ask that you be respectful and as concise as possible. There are volumes written about the details of this case, and there is no way for us to cover all the facts in the one hour we have today. It is possible you will hear something you think is wrong or inaccurate or misleading. Keep in mind, it may not be possible to address all of the issues to your satisfaction during the hour, but we'll do our best to be fair to all viewpoints. Joining us now from Fargo North Dakota is Ruth buffalo. She's a former North Dakota state representative, the first Native American woman elected to that legislature. She's an enrolled citizen of the mandan hidatsa and arikara nation, Ruth, welcome back to native America calling. Hi, dosha, mods. Thank you for having me. And joining us from Nashville, Tennessee is Kevin sharp. He is a former federal district court judge and pro Bono counsel for Leonard peltier's clemency petition. Kevin, thank you for joining us. Yeah, thanks. Thanks for inviting me, Sean. And joining us from the lacunae ojibwe reservation in Wisconsin is Paul demaine. He's a journalist and former editor of news from Indian country. He's a citizen of the united nation of Wisconsin and ojibwe descended. Paul, welcome back to NAC as well. Thank you. Ruth, I'd like to begin with you. You've been in recent contact with Leonard peltier. You visited him in prison last month. What are you comfortable sharing about that meeting? How is he doing? What are his spirits like? Yeah, so yeah, I've seen him a couple of times by visits total a couple of weekends ago. And then prior to that, the New Year's Eve weekend, he's very frail, elderly man in very poor health conditions and he doesn't he doesn't need to be where he's at. Federal maximum security prison Coleman won in Florida and we would very much want him back here in North Dakota. I'm actually calling in from across the street from the federal courthouse where the actual hearing was held back in 1976. Now, how did you first begin a conversing with Leonard peltzer, Ruth? He called me about a year ago and thanked me for the work that we were doing on the ground here in North Dakota as a state legislature at that time. We were able to get a number of letters and resolutions passed through the different networks that we are members of.
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"sean spruce" Discussed on Native America Calling
"Welcome to native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. This month marks 47 years in prison for Leonard peltier. Here's renewed efforts to win his release, whether it's the presidential decision on clemency or through compassionate release. The ailing 78 year old peltier has considerable support, especially among fellow Native Americans and others, like the UN, on the international stage. At the same time, there is serious resistance to any leniency for a man convicted of murdering two federal agents. Today, we'll go over the current case against belter and hopes for a change in his status. We're back after the news. This is national native news. I'm Antonio Gonzalez. Indigenous people and their allies held events Tuesday in Canada to honor the memory of missing and murdered indigenous women and girls. Down carbon check reports on the annual strawberry ceremony. A couple of hundred people gathered in downtown Toronto Tuesday in front of police headquarters, many of them told stories about families that have lost loved ones. During the ceremony, people were given a cup of water and a strawberry to hold. When cut in half the strawberries look like a heart, organizers say the strawberries are part of the memorial because it's a woman's fruit, and a symbol of hope and rebirth. Organizers say the gathering in Toronto has been taking place for the past 18 years, adding that it's an opportunity to gather as a community to pray for loved ones lost to violence. Joey twin is an indigenous activist. My mom was murdered when I was 6 years old in Calgary Alberta. 59 years ago and no justice was served for her murder. And so it's been going on for many years our indigenous folks, you know, get murdered, missing and murdered. Our
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"sean spruce" Discussed on Native America Calling
"Support by the American Indian higher education consortium working to ensure tribal colleges and universities are included in our higher education system. Information on 37 tribal colleges and universities at AI, dot org, support by BNSF railway, proudly supporting the nation's economy by moving the goods that feed, supply, and power communities across the country, more at BNSF dot com slash tribal relations. This is native America calling. I'm Sean spruce. We're getting native perspectives on the voyages of captain James cook, and there's plenty of time to join our conversation. How did his explorations of your native lands affect your people and culture? Please share your comments on the air one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. Let's get some calls going. Once again, the number one 800. 9 9 6 two 8 four 8. We've got Benjamin Jason on the line. He's researcher at the Alaska native heritage center. He's in anchorage, Alaska, and Benjamin before break, you were sharing the irony of captain James cook in that even though his name is listed in so many places there in Alaska monuments and such. He actually didn't really have a huge impact there beyond just having his namesake all over the place. And so many discussions now throughout the country statues and monuments and things like that. And are there moves or efforts to change the names of some of these locations in Alaska cook inlet among them? As well as there's a statue of cook in anchorage as well. And what's the response there with some of those namesakes, those monuments, those names all over the state. And so cooking lit, he does have a statue here. And there is a movement to try and get rid of it. But one thing that is important when you're thinking about removing statues of these figures, especially someone like James cook is to remember that just getting rid of statue. Or the symbol, these physical symbols isn't enough. There has to be an education that the area that you are at is denied a land. That we've been here for, we've been here forever. And while this is a piece of art history, it's a very, very short and small piece of our history. And so having that view of yes, we can remove these symbols. That is important. But it's also really important to change the narrative to change the story. To the truth is that we have always been here. As native peoples. And that our view of the land. Has to be there in order to actually tell the full story. And what's it going to take? To change that narrative as you describe it. For the most part, education. A big part is understand. And a big view of among the line of non natives. That I've heard time and time again is anchorage has never really been a native place. When that's just simply not true. And so education is a really big reality. But there also has to be the changing of this colonial mindset that this place has been an untouched land. All that also with the education of the personhood of indigenous peoples. A big thing that you see over in cook's writings is really trying to analyze kind of the levels of savagery. Of different indigenous peoples. While he may say one group is really strong, he might like down upon another group. Which is really rebellion over all along the northwest coast within his own writings. And so changing that narrative that indigenous peoples have personhood is also a really big issue as well. Alrighty, let's go ahead and go to the phones now. We have Nicole listening in Gallup, New Mexico, on station, KG, LP, hello Nicole. Well, good morning, good afternoon to you all. I'm a very proud proactive great grandmother that's involved in policy and politics. But what I wanted to encourage is that not to really focus on mister cook, but you know, just like here in the Navajo Nation, what I'm trying to do is work with the new bow at migrant administration to change fort wingate the name fort wingate and all the forts or anything derogatory like Carson and fort de France. To change that to a beautiful Navajo resilience, strong name like Lincoln, it would be the toll putting strong Navajo in bear springs. So I'm trying to change something negative that is into something that's very, very positive. And then once I get done with Navajo Nation, I want to go to basket redundant, work with the tribes down there and change that as well. Alrighty. Well, Nicole, thank you for sharing that information. I hope you're enjoying our show today and yeah, it certainly does these issues with names. So many native communities as well as the Navajo Nation and what we're learning about today with the legacy of captain James cook and the Pacific as well as parts of Alaska. I'd like to go back to doctor Keanu Tsai again and there's so many other aspects of cook's legacy beyond just his interactions with native people and some of the issues we're talking about today and one thing that I think is important to note is that he was also very well known as a cartographer in making maps and I know there were even maps that he created all those years ago that we're still in use by some sailors as recently as like the 1970s even into the 1980s I think and what about that side of cook's legacy doctor sy, his ability to make maps and just some of these other contributions for better or worse that he made to the world. No, that's a good point because Hawaii would be impacted by that. So what cook brought to the mapping issue is longitude latitude, right? Bracketing. And that makes things more precise. You can find things. So when he mapped the Pacific, he also made it where other ships can find Hawaii to get to get refreshments to get water, get refurbished and then they go back out and then many of them were whalers. So Hawaii was inundated with the wailing
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"Support by sinofsky chambers law, championing tribal sovereignty and Native American rights since 1976 from opioids litigation to treaty rights to tribal self governance, with offices in Washington, D.C., New Mexico, California, and Alaska. Sadowski chambers law. Native voice one the Native American radio network. This is native America calling, I'm Sean spruce. 18th century British explorer James cook is revered for his drive and seamanship from Tonga in the South Pacific to the Bering strait. He put more than 120 English place names on the map, from mount edgecombe and Alaska to the bay of plenty in New Zealand. That doesn't count the many places named after him. But his colonial exploits were often at odds with the indigenous peoples already living in the places he landed. His conflicts with indigenous people during his efforts to expand the British Empire came to a head on this date in 1779. That's the day he was killed in a skirmish with native Hawaiians. We're talking about cook's legacy today from a native perspective. Are there places in your area named after the British explorer? What is the name? James cook me to you and your native community. Give us a call at one 809 9 6 two 8 four 8. That's also one 809 9 native. Joining us first from Honolulu Hawaii is doctor Keanu sai. He's a political scientist. Doctor psi, welcome to native America calling. Thank you for having me. Doctor James cook is revered around the world and explore a cartographer. How is he regarded in Hawaii? It's not that we don't celebrate anything regarding captain cook. He's a part of our history though. And he's known for it. Well, they say discovered he didn't discover Hawaii, but he arrived here. And so he also met his demise here. His demise, right? And that's an interesting story. We want to get into that for sure. But when Kirk, we cook first arrived there on the islands, what was life like for the people who lived there? Well, it was in these islands that were actually three separate kingdoms. The kingdom of kawaii, the kingdom of Maui and the kingdom of Hawaii. And they were very chiefly, very keenly oriented. In fact, anthropologists recently had now referred to these kingdoms along with Tonga as primary states or archaic states the way they're set up similar to nasal America. And so forth. So it was very feudal like and he had classes of people. So you had the king, the chiefs, or nobility, and the commoners. So when captain cook first arrived, it was on Kauai and 17. Before. So it was a year before he demise in 1779. And when he arrived in Hawaii on Kauai. They said he came across a fisherman and efficiently kind of just looked at him. I was like, well, that's a large ship. And that was that first connection that was made. And then he continued his journey. Now, when he came back, returned to Hawaii in 1779, he arrived at that same time that he first touched Kauai a year earlier. And this was a season called makahiki. So the two primary seasons within these islands under these kingdoms. And it was the season of peace and the season of war. When he arrived in Kauai, it was doing a season of peace. That's roughly four months. It runs around from March to I believe January and early February. So that is when there's festivities and is dedicated to the God London, right? Now, when that season ends, which is either late January early February, that's when it gets into the season of war. And that's on the kuka limo cohesive war God. And that's when wars take place, right? So when he showed up, just so happens he arrived during the season of peace. So he was very well received. And when he returned, he was also what we see because he arrives during that same kind. Now when he left to continue his journey, map being there, trying to find the northwest passage. His mass broke in the fore. So we had to come back to Hawaii for the island. And then he came into kill like a quarter, which is where he was before. But it was very different. Because people were looking at him like, what are you doing here? And some of the chiefs were getting a little anxious. So a couple of them actually stored his schooner off of his ship. And what captain cook did the following day was use a tactic that he used in the southern in the South Pacific. Where if something is taken is going to take something from them and hold them ransom, hold a ransom, and say, you give it, I'll give you back. You might think I give you your thing. Well, the one thing he did, which wasn't good, once he went to apprehend. King colonial pool. And he was a king of the way island. And at first, the king thought he was a friend. So he's just going to go with him. And it was one of his wives that said, no. Colonial pool. Is your enemy? He's taking your way because of the attitude. And he was there with marines with muskets. And that's
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COVID 19 frauds and scams
"This is native America calling. I'm Monica Brain. Scammers will take any opportunity to bilk you out of your money or personal information. Currently they're using the Kovic global pandemic as a way to prey on fears about the uncertainty with the virus and economic issues around the pandemic. Here's one example of a Robo call. Some folks are getting. The Corona virus has caused the. Us declared a national emergency. The Families First Corona Virus Response Act has made corona virus testing more accessible immediately. If you want to receive a free testing kit delivered overnight to your home press one if you do not want your free testing press to do to be clear you cannot take a corona virus test at home. Here's another scam. That involves a mortgage blow due to the krona virus. Mortgage interest rates have dropped an all time low. You may be able to benefit from updated modification in refinance programs. Today we're going to go through a list of scams that are out there and give you tips for avoiding scams altogether. And we'd like to hear from you. Have you been getting calls about in nineteen? Do they involve cures or personal requests for personal information to get your relief? Check call us right now and share your experience you can be an anonymous of the number is eight hundred nine six two eight four eight once again. Is Sean Spruce? He's the programs consultant. He's a programs consultant for First Nations Development Institute and Co hosts the PODCASTS natives on a budget Schon is Laguna Pueblo. Hey Monica how you doing good good? I'm I'm excited to talk about this topic today. Even though it it's a little tricky you know because it involves people who are committing crimes and really taking advantage of Sometimes unsuspecting folks so Have you recently wrote about A scam in your doctor per cap column that involved the Corona Virus. Tell us about it. Yeah absolutely so I got a an email from a woman End into the country and she had received a phone call very late at night from somebody who claim to be her niece and then he said I'm really sick I mean hospital and I've racked up these huge bills because of Cova nineteen. I'm infected and I need help paying the bills and this woman is elderly and she was at home and you know she was again. It was late at night. She wasn't quite isn't allergic. She could have been and she just but it didn't sound quite right so I'm quite like her these even though the woman identified herself as her knees with the right name and everything. Fortunately her nephew was also home and he grabbed the phone and he very quickly could tell that this was a scam. This was not actual niece. It was basically what we call grandparents scam. Where Somebody Will Foam Cau- call it older person and pretend to be a grandchild or niece or nephew and say they're in some kind of trouble and usually it's some kind of trouble with the law or something like that This case this person claim to be sick with covert nineteen and needed help paying medical bills. So fortunately they hung up the phone and that was the end of it but she she sent me an email just to let me know what was going on. And this was something that was headed occurred in her with her personal life and You know these kind of things just always bring out. The worst. In people. Natural disasters are hurricanes earthquakes tornadoes forest fires. You know every time. One of these huge natural disasters or crises erupts. There's always some bad actors scammers fraudsters that look to take advantage and this was an example of that fortunately she wasn't victimized but scary that people will approach somebody or contact. Somebody call somebody like with that kind of a sinister plot to defraud them or steal from them. Yeah I know especially late at night and I I know I would be all confused and take me a minute to realize whether or not I was dreaming or something like that I wonder for that out there to our listeners. Have you ever experienced something like this? Has Someone called and pretended to be your family member and asked You for help And then it turned out that they weren't at all Give us a call and share. The number is one eight hundred nine six two eight four eight vessels one eight hundred nine nine native. I want to add another voice to the conversation. We've got Chuck Harwood on the line. He's the regional director of the Federal Trade Commission for the Northwest Region. Hey there chuck. I'm GONNA so are you. Seeing lots of reports of an increase in scams are the scammers. They're just taking their regular catalogue of Scams and just adding cove in nineteen to it and Is that increasing the answer. To all requested yes That's exactly what's happening. We're seeing lots of reports of scams about liberate. Thousands of reports are scams which in which Cova Nineteen Corona virus being referred to. They are taking their usual catalogue of scams and just tacking on corona virus or Cova nineteen to the for example. The one Sean talked about it they classic grandparent or family. Birds Scam that we've been hearing about for years sometimes traffic accidents or something like that now. They're saying Rovers So Yeah we've seen both. Wow that's That's upsetting to hear so Exactly how okay. Let's talk a little bit more about how this actually works with the grandparent. Scam for example. So you know Sean was saying she was saying she was in the hospital and she needed money if they had continued that conversation. What would happen next chuck? Almost certainly they would have asked for money to be sent They would have said that they need the money immediately. needs to be perfectly overnight faster that the victim can be convinced to get the money in the mail or more likely. Frankly Sent through wire Western Union or these days. They even use know gift cards to send money. like Amazon itunes gift cards That's the way they want to do it. And as soon as the money has sent it disappears and doing impossible to reverse the payment And tumors out the money. It is extraordinarily. You'd think it can't work but extraordinarily common. How often people fall for the scam and my time said one more thing about the scam described in point of an important point important Element in fighting. These scams net is consulting with your friends and neighbors family The example that Sean describe was prevented because the woman who received the call had a family member. She could consult with And that's that's really critical. Find is a lot of people who avoid scams do so because they talk to friends and family members of course in the middle of lockdowns at viruses increasingly hard to do so. They can't further like to fall victim to these games. I had this conversation with my dad. Who's in his late seventies and I told him if somebody calls saying there me and they need money for the emergency room hospital or anything like that or I'm in jail. Just leave. Just tell them now. You can stay there and we'll just go ahead and because that's not gonNA happen. I'M NOT GONNA call you that way. You know our tell them. Oh call your sister and she'll take care of it Which I think is you know I mean I. It seems weird to have a a scam plan. Sean have you talked to folks about that like having conversations with your family members in advance as a preventative measure. Not so much you know like having you know like a plan like a strategy if when whatever and I think because one of the challenges is there are just so many different ways to scam. Somebody and like Chuck mentioned people just continue to Kinda easy same scams. They just always a new twist to them. So you know it's just it's difficult to kind of create a plan because scams can come in so many shapes and sizes and like You know we talked about earlier. Anybody can be a victim of a scam. Anybody can be caught essentially Scam proof impossible. I don't care how much education you have and I don't care how many plans you create can never completely scam proof yourself. And that's because scammers know how to appeal to people's emotions and why again and again when you really effective scam designed to prey on base human emotions. You've got love. Which is those romance scams which are really effective Natural Disaster Death Sickness. Things like that people aren't necessarily thinking clearly they're not thinking straight their emotionally vulnerable and they can be victimized when they're in that setting so yeah. I really encourage people you know. Hang up the phone quickly. Don't engage with a scammer. But not so much of a game plan like which relatives the contractor not to contact although it might be effective for some people to to think like that and come up with you know basic strategy for dealing with some of these issues.