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The Episode Where Matt & Brock Celebrate Their Independence Day

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35:59 min | 3 months ago

The Episode Where Matt & Brock Celebrate Their Independence Day

"Well it feels like a really long time. It has been. It really has better. What better way to come back into the fold baby then to celebrate something and i think this This fourth of july for everyone holds a little bit more significance. And i just we were out recently and just things opening back up people getting to back to some some normal life. It just being in a restaurant. I i don't know you can. You can attest to this better than anyone Just how good it feels to like. Be in the presence of somebody else and not have to really worry about hugging them and stuff like that. It is a. I think this fourth of july is going to be probably a pretty big blowout all over the place even if you said he doesn't do fireworks and all that stuff but i'm seeing family i haven't seen in two and a half years that's awesome. That's great. yeah it's a weird feeling because it's like you know it used to see them probably every year but we you know all of twenty twenty was gone so didn't see him for that year and a half there and then i haven't seen them. I didn't see them for like a year before that. So it's like wow. I haven't seen this group of people in a very long time now. I'm going to be doing fourth july with them so in a way you know where young no no no. No no i'm going to. I'm actually going down. Y'all's way i'm going to be in anaheim orange county so nice july. Yes my my family. My my dad's side of the family lives down there They're kind of southern. You know southern la orange county area so irvine that of that kind of location. So i'll be going down there in just a few days now and you know i'll get to see people haven't seen in a very long time but as to what you're saying about like so like for instance i actually was working as working at the restaurant and i ran into my voice teacher who i haven't seen in a few years and he got up and the first thing he did was hugged and i was like i almost like shied away from it. I almost didn't wanna do it. And then i was like. Oh no it's okay. It's okay to hug someone in public. That was like a thing that was going over my head. It was like what do you think everyone else is going to think about the server hugging a customer. Like the pissed about that. But now it's You back your mind though. That's that's always going to be there. And that's what twenty twenty kind of due to us right it's i get Kind of flipped everything on its on its head and I mean. I don't think it's i think it's gonna be a while before we can actually reflect and give ourselves credit as a human race. That's what's so crazy about a man as a human race. We like still getting through it but we made it you know like we. We are adapting overcoming in in a lot of ways and You haven't got vaccinated colfax mid sixty percent or something in la county california. Yeah and california's a real good example of that too which is Which i'm proud of. That's very Very good but neither here nor there it just means more of us can be out back with each other and you know for us that means theater. It's coming back baby. Nice doors happening. Were were Were pretty. we're pretty excited about this company and yeah project very repeater. In general come on right doing things and live. Police signed me up. I had a few friends reach out. And i was like yes before you say anything. Yes i'm in. You know anything that Will stretch my creativity and We'll we'll We're all ready for it. I know that. I know that much is true But before we get you know. Obviously the days is upon us this weekend. what signifies fourth of july for our independence day. What were some of the things that you did when you were younger. That like you know that kind of brought it all in like when you think about the all american sort of fourth of july to To do what was it. Bring up for you okay. So we talked about this kind of on memorial day. But like for me for the july. Never really lined up with any thing having to do with like honestly. The only thing that i think would be like patriotic that we really did on fourth of july would be my dad would put out the flag he would hang it in and we only do that like veterans day memorial day and fourth of july. I think if i i don't think there's any other day that we put the flag out for but that was something that would be consistent and then you know for me so it was really a hallmark holiday for me. It was fireworks and barbecues going out to the beach Fourth of july was for me about seeing family taking some time off and Really getting to have fun for a in the middle of the summer. It was almost like more of ami a summer. Solstice if you if you really wanna put word to it it was a. We're halfway through summer where we're dead in the middle of it. This is the summer holiday. So yeah it's your cool and right. Yeah exactly now. Interestingly enough i have never launched my own fireworks. I have only on yeah. I don't know. I've only been to other people's or not other people's but i've only been to like big fireworks shows that were put on by the city. Yeah actually like you know what i am. Just the craziest memory. That i completely forgot about okay. So when i was in england. When i was like twelve or something i don't even remember we were. We were in england and it was the summer and we decided it was like over fourth of july. And i remember being like one of the only you know. There's not many americans in in england in the fourth of july and so for them. It's just you know it's every other day but for us we ended up. I think we only bed and breakfast or something. And my parents bought a sparklers and we ended up running around in the backyard with sparklers on fourth of july so that we could have our own little american experience. That's pretty that's pretty great said how old i was like hanner. I mean it was. I was young. Yeah three she hated having having something right where you imagined like just having having something to celebrate with you know to kind of recognize that you're you're away from home but it's still a special day you know and the fact that you're in england to that's pretty rat right like they can do a little bit. Hey we're separated yelling out. You guys lost you guys. Luckily alex english people that or see into the backyard or like look at these. Look these stupid. Americans doing their american allies. Like a but like for me. I would say that that was the most that was the fourth of july. Actually where i felt the most american spirit that media any sense you know. Now that i think about more the more i go over at my head it really is fireworks for me that Like would be the the thing for fourth of july. I swear him having all these fourth of july memories like flow back now that we're talking about this. Yup it's it's and i'm sure you not having fired any fireworks of your own. Your your ten digits. Probably appreciate that because there's a lot of that's a big thing in the hospitals was like i. Would he be bull blow their fingers off and you know scorch their faces because You know they. They let it off to too quickly. Some of that stuff on the black market stuff is like we 'cause in colorado used to. I grew up at a little mountain town and it got a little bit older. You know old enough to go with friends for like a trip or something We up to wyoming. Because that's where they saw the you'd have across the border so and they'd have a little stands and stuff but there you could buy like iming cherry bombs you could buy made. There's a lost a lot of stuff that it was nerve today aren't really you're you're you're dealing with explosives here and It was just. It was awesome. But yeah like you said that looking back on You know how most countries a lot of countries celebrate their independence you know. It'll start with the chinese and and with the inventors of of fireworks and it was kind of by accident They through like a bamboo shoots somebody through like a couple of bamboo shoots inside the fire and they got really hot because of the bamboo can withstand quite a bit but they started popping and you know they see years later they kind of developed it they developed it with you know phosphorus and all these different like gunpowder obviously and That's how most countries signify their independence. And it's like a you know i. It very much. Replicates the explosions of bombs you know and there's in with with independence day. There's always some sort of conflict that preceded it right and i think that's what's I dunno mattiello. Like i just remember being that little town because we were in a totta huge lake and They would shoot fireworks over the lake and it was reflected and it was just. It was stunning but one of the craziest and this the one thing that i always appreciate especially about our country is like we can be. I remember when i got out of the navy in two thousand eight. And i still had a couple years of inactive reserve but i remember I remember the two thousand eight the housing crisis and so many The entire economy just being the tank. But i when i first moved out here to la. I had this really sick a rooftop that nobody ever used in our apartment building. But i was like beverly would beverly hills adjacent. But i had a three sixty view of downtown. La a hollywood hills century city at everything that year. I think it was two thousand ten or eleven It was one of the most like battle los angeles. there were fireworks because we could see at three sixty. I mean hawthorne each each little city had their own display going on it and it was all at the same time lasted probably close to an hour but it was honestly one of the most spectacular things i'd ever seen House it was. Just i was taken back by it and our country was in the you know the economic tank at that point. So it's just i. I think it's a show of like how we persevere and how we kind of come and i hope it never ends because yeah good time there. No it's you know i. It's weird the fact that you just said it never ends. It's weird do we ever think about like okay so this is gonna be take a very very different. Turn here for a second but we we fourth of july for us is really kind of like a celebration of the birth of our nation. Right are the birth of america. But isn't it like You know most of the time. Like i said about like america's government the current government way that it is the longest standing government system in the world because of you know typical overhauls that happen in in like even like not to say that the cutler were the oldest. Because you know you can look at england or something but england's politics have changed drastically over the past year. Yeah you're the same there so it's weird. It's weird to think about it but like you say like you hope it never ends like what is ever going be a time where fourth of july is not celebrated in the way that it is today and i think that the way i bring this up is like for instance you know. We're in twenty twenty twenty one now like fourth of july is celebrating something all the way back from seventeen seventy six so but that's not not much time in human history. What's going to say in grants limit things. Yes yeah three. Four years july is going to be a blip what about other asia and all this right right now to think about it. It's like yeah. I think about like things fading out And i guess. That's i guess. My question is like do feel that fourth of july still has the same meaning that it did even fifty years hundred years ago. Do you think that it means the same thing. Like if you talked to someone during world war two new or or even vietnam and you ask them. While via like fourth of july celebration was happening during then. And you ask someone now during the fourth of july so celebration what it means to them. Do you think that you'd get the same answer. Or would it have shifted shifted for sure. I mean it's not yet and because because we have so much more available to us we have different groups and social organizations and not only not just focusing on that but the fact that we everybody celebrates it's more of a melting pot now than it ever has been And people celebrate their own countries. You know independence their own celebrations And i think it's it's i mean on a case by case basis. You have to really like find out how people what it means to them and and how they do they still hold the same traditions they did you know. Twenty years ago You know grownup little grown up and like having lakes next to you and stuff like that people by the beach like every fourth of july we would have a My uncle lives at the beach in in seal beach and We would have the morning of like six. Am a family like football game in the in the sand and he'd have his his birthday happens to fall for the job as well so it'd be a big blow out and You know it was always was always a lot of fun and memorable Do i think that every person there was like man. I really. I'm really proud. Really proud to be american. I'm really. I'm really thankful for the fact that we separated. You know that we that we gained our independence. I really am thankful to our forefathers. I don't think they're being as reverend with it. Or his patriotic. That's i think what is maybe lost in nowadays in you know today senses like back then after world war in world war two was fresh After nine eleven for instance you know that fourth of july was. I mean i don't remember specifically but i imagine there was a lot to be said. You know there was a lot of patriotism and a lot of just that commodity that kind of brings us together tragedy. Generally does that nowadays. That's it's an interesting question it really is. And i'd be interested to see how other people feel about it as well but Yeah it really gets. It gets you thinking about And i i. This is cool. I saw this and was just. I just thought it was really interesting. How just a few other countries kind of celebrate there's I thought Australia's was pretty pretty cool like australia. Day obviously Bolivia throws a two day party packed with marches gun salutes fireworks music parades and carnivals the main event of celebrations. Our military parades The celebrations could you for a full day and involved fireworks of course. So that's kind of the hallmark of every almost every country This was the thing. I was talking to dominica about just before. We hopped on but the military marches. That kind of goes into play with what you were just saying. Why why is it. What is it about the american public that like would we. Would we be in favor of something like that. You know a would. Would people would have a guttural reaction. A lot of people see something like that and they they have sort of a a knee jerk. Ooh that's that's that's too militaristic that's to you know show force But when it's meant to be like you're supporting those who are serving in your. Your patriotism is is sort of shining through me like where do you. How can you fault one of the other. You know what i mean. And it's I don't know what what would you like. Have you ever seen like a military march before anything like that military march. I mean i'm sure there were some like the parades i saw for like. Yeah parades right. I can't remember so we were near. I live near fort ord or growing up So there were there was a little bit of. It's okay. it's weird because the military presence like was in our area was mainly like There's the naval postgraduate school. I don't what is it. We called it in the nps nps. I don't remember exactly but yes we. We had like the naval postgraduate school. Which i'm pretty sure is officers mainly. Yeah i mean it's like and then there's also an international language program. I don't think it's the naval postgraduate school. But something that also has to do with the military Where they would train people in you know like they. They were trained people in like arabic and farsi. And so like a lot. Like for instance. One of the guys who i went to school with ended up joining the military. I've been trying to get in contact with them but he's a very elusive dude And i remember him training in arabic because of the school in so that was the most most of the military exposure that i had in that area and i remember that like fourth of july parades were not very like the military presence. I'm pretty sure was there but it wasn't lake. I couldn't even tell you what branch of the military. I couldn't tell you like if these people had ever or were ever going to go across seas or see any sort of combat right but right like they weren't necessarily celebrated by like having a a parade themselves are being no fourth of july parades or anything like that. Yeah it was. I mean. I think they would be in lake sections but they would be behind like monterey middle school marching band. You what i mean. It's like you have the same amount of time slot. They might be like one of the other and then like know somebody like. Oh this is cool. But they're about is celebrated as as a middle school right. I don't know that says anything but like shirt but to be fair. You know it is the it is a celebration of everything. And that's that's just it. It's like the military and fourth of july. You know the connection is is is our independence obviously and and we want to revere that but we just have memorial day. Veterans day is coming up. We have armed forces day. They're days that celebrate the military as as as a whole and senior And then we have the obviously the birthdays of the navy marine corps and so on and so forth So yeah i mean. I do think to be fair. I think that's it should be a celebration of of everyone in and involve more than just like you know a show of force or thanking the military but. Yeah it's it's like. It's on compensating celebration of of like you said to summer and and everything else that goes with it. Our independence But i don't think that's necessarily bad. It's just it changes you know and i think we have to. You know we gotta be open to that So you said you're going down. You're celebrating this this weekend with your family It's pretty cool. So i am. Usually i would go either being seal beach and And see family down there. We go with marley's we go with her family Well this weekend. We happened to be looking for wedding. Venues marlisa is getting married. I the thanks brother. I propose just over two Two weeks ago. But i We took our engagement photos this last weekend. And so we're going to be down Looking at Venues so it's it's It's happening in its. I couldn't be. I dunno more excited. It's it's going to be a lot of fun but wednesday at my life is changing. I think it really just depends on on what place we find. You know like what. That's what we're kind of doing this weekend in temecula and and the surrounding area but Obviously with the pandemic. there's been a lot of. There's a lot of people have waited to have their weddings. So we'll we'll we'll find the right. The right date probably like january next year some time frame but Yes coming quick man. So we have a lot of work to do and You know life is changing drastically. But i can. I can think of a better way to to celebrate it so yeah just thought i'd share that with with everybody because i know some of We have some of our family our listeners avenues in the show so Yeah man. it's pretty stoked. I mean you should be dude. I don't know what's going on. Like i've got like one two three now. Four sets of like friend couples getting married. I have no idea what changed. But like i had nothing out there and then all of a sudden there's four of you you come to what is time. And let's hope that like dude. It's gonna be wedding season. And i'm going to be just getting smacked. All the wedding is better. Cited man and scott. You're getting an invite i mean. of course. of course. I mean whole madison mass. Going to be my. He's my My first I lt right there. I got my brothers. My best man obviously but Yeah maddie and i got my navy buddies coming in my buddy brandon Coming in Vast yet just about everybody. They'll have one this kind of on the fence Because i'm not he he's just one of those like you said elusive guys. That will disappear for a while so yeah man by this time but this fourth july next year be a married man. So it's it's crazy to think about brother. It's a definitely the life changing thing. But i feel like the pandemic really did that to a lotta people that kind of force them to get through their differences in with us forces to get literally living together and Slow it it turned out to be give back on back on track. I just thought i wanted to. I needed to say that. Just because that's that's my plans this weekend With i'm sure some fireworks in order as well but as far as like military What's it like in the military during fourth of july. Yeah i'm matt mentioned. Do you kind mentioned something about Do you transformers right. Yeah talking about two transformers story. Which honestly i great would tell that story but i feel like matt has gotta tell that at some point Rice i mean him out of know the amount of stuff to unpack. There is a great run alone is enough to know what the military i mean for all viewers air. You hear the noise in the background. That is los angeles than you hear wheezing in the background. I'm so sorry grant. that is my worry. Very old men pin. Who's who has yes. Sweet dog has fucking problems for guy we dogra. So this is what happened Deployment somerville nine afghanistan a guru stan mountains. We were up there and we weren't doing anything that day. I think they didn't want any of us to go on a mission so on obviously was a holiday and everything like that so we were on. We were out. Just a round. The base number my staff sergeant. We'll just call him staff. Sergeant mccollum charlie I'm charlie this dude has the most amazing fucking dan like a deadpan. Face i have ever met might like you could tell this guy was like joking. Half the time or tangles. Like i'm dead serious like need to do this. It's being having a conversation with somebody who has a really good serious like stoic. Face is so hard to read so he said he was going somewhere and we were like oh case urgent and then and then we got a message back that like you know. Turn one of the who teaches into a into a movie theater and Alright so they got all the boots go do. We're like kind of like. I have no idea with fog like so. He just turned like are caught like insulate one. Md huge a sitting areas. And then we had like this teleprompter in the front screen in like we were like. Yeah all kind of like sitting there waiting and then he comes in like i remember like the flab opens any still in his full battle rattle so he just got off the hilo went straight to us and we Luckily what was it on for the july they always try to feed us really well Of will true and not true so like usually when you get fed really well because it's a holiday and something is about. Yeah yeah Unfortunately for us do things that i it was both so we didn't know that was about a week or two later. We were gonna be doing stuff down on Black pass and boss pass But that's another thing but yes. We had back steakhouse and remember we had stakes noor ribs and there's all kinds of stuff everybody in a flat. Bogans incomes Doe ik staff sergeant. Charlie in full battle rattle just comes right to the guy in the front broadest sitting in there just kind of. I don't know the flex going on. He's whispering to somebody hands up thumb drive plug it in just looks at it as he goes before the For the july gents. I don't remember the first movie he got. But this guy somehow got a connection to somebody and he got the bootleg version of transformers. Too and i remembered as being like like holy shit. I was actually like looking forward to seeing that. When i got back from afghanistan and i remember started playing in the minute. Megan fox came on all map. I've seen stereotypical like nineteen thirties. Like world war. Two movies were like. Yeah they're all hooting and hollering. And yeah know. That was yeah. That was a legit thing like that was a legit thing to guys had to leave. Because i also a mathis I don't know if you it but like two guys had to leave. Because like i can't watch this like like i community. I'm gonna get to riled up. I can't watch the. I remember like every time she came on. You couldn't even hear the audio. I like all you. All you heard in the background which the bunch you guys just. Oh my god. Event like the shiloh above the action. And then my and then it was it. Megan fox will come on. Oh my god was on. It will always be one of my favorite for the july moments just having it with a small group guys in the middle of one of the most chaotic wars zones at time of war. Not even in america. How i always remember my fourth of. July's love it. Well thank you matt for giving us that you know. Delightful story about a bunch of horny military. That's what happens when you would be like that for so long from any from something you know it goes back to like like you said with any time you get it starts with the meal anytime you see a good meal. Coming up yeah. It's christmas thanksgiving for the july. It's always great Or it's the shits about the the fan you're about to go on they're extending deployment by a few days you're like it doesn't the crab legs don't quite taste good because you know you're going to be eating the same lap the next day so But but i think that's the best way to put like that that moment that everybody had in the movie theater the little little makeshift That it really does signify like when you suppress somebody from normal life for a while you kinda turn into your basic instincts you know and that kind of takes over We had on fourth of july celebrations on the boat. We would have rudolph flyovers or we have still beach picnic and Still beach pigging. They they clear all the flight deck. All the the clear the flight deck off and Uab's have a huge barbecue. And they have they do like an air show for us basically which is pretty reacts. Pretty bad ass Eighteen do stuff they normally you know work on Hard degree turns than they break the sound barrier. And we just get awesome videos. And there's also if you if you're lucky you'll get a beer day but that rarely rarely happens but But yeah it's always it's always a. They tried to do the best they can with the circumstances year end. So if you're on deployment am anna sucks but when we were back. We're back at the Sometimes we'd be back In its ui on land we have softball tournaments and we'd have command picnics and stuff which were always always a good time Yet people still lose their minds. We had females and stuff. So we'd we'd always you know people would just disappear for for nights on end and you just hope. They made it back for monday. And you know. Make it back to work and You know usually that happened. But chaos usually ensued Man well i you know i am looking forward to this weekend looking forward to Spending time with family. And hopefully they're going to be leading off. They're gonna be lighting fireworks. Were going to be lighting fireworks. And so this'll be in the first time for me doing that. Hopefully it won't blow my hand off but You know i'm excited. And congratulations again for being man fucking awesome and getting married. Kinda can't even imagine brother. I think that's a good send off into the and veterans a happy fourth of july. And everybody else everybody all the other listeners as well but You know if you see if you see a veteran if you know veteran that's your neighbor Maybe maybe don't fire off fireworks like right outside their house. i mean. sometimes it's his. It's different with everybody but just realize some people are sensitive. And i think most veterans won't you celebrate as you normally would you know they're out there with their kids to but you know just be a little mindful of that that That sometimes it can be hard for some as well and Him and with that being said let saw was send us off at any like me. Who say celebrate your independence light. Those bad boys all work. I've been out almost ten eleven years. I've learned how to cope with it. I'm just gonna keep on telling myself throughout the night. You're hearing and i'm going to see a beautiful show watching everybody. Smile living in the bubble that i fought for so that way none of you guys could ever experience some what these other countries go through. So i was just the other the argument. Yeah i love it. I love it. We present all all aspects to we do all right. well With that you know we didn't. We don't think anyone having the fox besides herself so you know next time. Now at state yeah. I think we have to stay tuned coming on next. No yeah and we'll We'll be back with another. They're awesome awesome story in an amazing A veteran that we've been friends with for quite some time but to get him on this call for a long time. Yeah to work out. It's coming together. Thanks for being here with us. Matt bronx dot signing out indeed

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MSW Book Club - Episode 4 Chapters 8 & 9 (Escape Velocity & The Art of the Bailout)

Mueller, She Wrote

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MSW Book Club - Episode 4 Chapters 8 & 9 (Escape Velocity & The Art of the Bailout)

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I have been called a surrogate at the time. Two in that campaign and i didn't have not have communications with the russians to get involved with putin for have nothing to do with putting spoken to him. I don't know anything about that. He will respect me russia. If you're listening. I hope you're able to find the thirty thousand emails that are missing so it is political. Your communist know mr green. Communism is just a red herring like all members of the profession. A capitalist hello and welcome to the msw host ag. Everyone please welcome. Activists comedian amazing person. Dana goldberg dana. How are you oh alison. It's going to be back with you has been a. He's been stress when we could stressful sad week. But i'm happy to be here with you and To talk more about the insanity that is the man in the white house. Yes we are reviewing chapter. Eight and chapter. Nine are beefy chapters of mary. Trump's book Too much never enough. How my family created the most dangerous man in the world and today's episode is heavy dana. You're going to be covering chapter. Eight called escape velocity. I'll be going over chapter nine the art of the bailout And it's there's you know a lot. I mean we're going to go over mary's data lot in chapter eight freddie junior. And we're going to continue on with the business stuff And and donald in chapter nine. It's just a lot. We have a lot to get to. We might as well kick it off with chapter eight. Let's do it. I'm ready to go all right. Everyone chapter eight. If you're reading along and i hope that you are infective. Hope you finish the book by now but this is escape velocity now. This chapter is filled with all kinds of craziness. It basically in the beginning we get to learn. Just how cheap and tacky. Donald ivana are fairly non surprising Mary tells us about a christmas present from donald. So this was a golden may basically he'll that's filled with candy it's wrapped in cellophane which we find out is talent apparently of avant as in clearly clearly Donald didn't realize that he actually gave mary the skipped because he walked by and he was like. What's that in. Mary's like it's a gift from you and so donald goes. Oh nice it looks nice. And then mary says and i quote he probably thought it was real gold. Which is this is. This is what's wonderful. This is where we start to see. Mary's very what. I would say dry and like witty sense of humor. Come through in the book and she sarcastic is hell. And i love it. I'm here for it all day. So you'll start to see more of it now so. This wasn't the first time. Mary got a weird gift from donald. And vonda in one thousand nine hundred seventy seven. She tells us about this three pack of underwear she got and a beautiful other journal. Her brother received which not surprising that the boy in the family obviously looked like he got the better gift but she said that she was very jealous until she realized the journal had it was two years old so they've given the journal that was two years old and mary says at least my underwear wouldn't expire. It's just it's just amazing. I feel like if he could like. If if donald trump could he would have bought underwear that expired like feel like feasible. It would have been two year old underwear that you can't have any more or i'm shocked. Didn't gift unaware it's pretty. It's pretty clean. It's burning plane. Jesus so we definitely see where donald gets a pension for cheap gifts in this chapter like giving you know. This is the thing we see this now. I see why he's like giving award winning. Sports teams cold hamburgers and acting. Like they're gold like he's like look at this. Look look at this. I'm like thirty five hundred cold hamburgers for people that are elite athletes. You're more on anyway. You got to the white house expecting a delicious healthy meal if got us spread of mcdonald's and arby's and shit compete for this myself. I'm like twenty nine cents a piece you jackass right cat. So mary goes on to say holidays in the family basically. They just seem to roll together. Christmas thanksgiving. Mary does remember the donald would always pull up like a fancy car. Ivana was always in her furs socal. Everyone else was fairly relatively casually dressed so then. Mary goes on to tell us that she actually she actually grew up thinking. Donald had single-handedly built the business and family name in the brand that it is today now. What burst that bubble. And i think it probably happened before. But this was until the new york. Times article came out in two thousand eighteen that uncovered the vast amounts of fraud and illegality in the family. So basically fred was donald's personal bank. He was lending money to him left. And right i'm talking like hundreds of thousands a month more sometimes in the millions. He's basically donald's personal money store. So that's where we get this in this chapter now goes on to tell us about the prenup. That roy cohen suggested donald yvonne assign in one thousand nine hundred. Ninety six now in this pre-nup there is a hundred fifty thousand dollar rainy day fund alison one hundred fifty thousand dollar rainy day fund and. Mary says this was twenty. One years of six hundred per month. Mary's mom got divorced. Twenty one years of her monthly divorce agreement. And what's interesting is both. These agreements were based on fred's worth not donald's and not freddie's because all the money was coming from fred so we see again. How of course. The younger brother was favored in this situation. So it became part of the power core and the family is. Mary says and at holiday. She sat with donald near fred in the middle of the table. This part is so telling in this chapter and basically all the other kids were basically there and i quote to propped on up and deferred him as if no one was more important sound familiar. Alison yes a little bit. Those weird roundtables. Mary actually explains that. We see this. We see exactly donald chief of staff. That's what they're there for. So kelly did it for a while until donald got rid of them and mulvaney willingly with no spine incite like it's just. It's really pathetic. Mary said that's how it worked for the sacraments. I'd say what i call him. Sake offense fucking crazy. Okay the sycophants. That's where they've worked for the sycophants i. They remained silent. Then they make themselves complicit by not acting and ultimately find that. They're expendable when donald needs a scapegoat. It was simply for robin marianne toe the party line which of course we see republicans in congress doing every single day. This has been doing this for decades now. The chapter bounds around a bit at this point. We cut back to one of the christmases where mary was re. Gifted a basket of goodies. And this is so funny. Because there's actually a place in the basket you can tell something lived there next to the crackers and the salami which was clearly caviar that had been taken out of this gift basket covered in cellophane because apparently has an affinity for it. Yeah but what she remembers about. This holiday. is that mary in. I loved mary for this. She is a self proclaimed nerd. It's one of my favorite things about her. She's no qualms about it well. Yvonna had seen mary's latest copy of omni sifi magazine and ivana said to her. I will introduce you to pop chino. Who is basically the The the publisher of omni. So when mary was so excited she went to tell her. Dad about this. Dad was like i'm sorry. Who told her and her dad goes. They want to introduce you to the publisher of penthouse so needless to say. Mary didn't think that was a good idea after his friend obviously didn't either but we see just like how sleazy donald and von and this has been for years. I mean the the. Yeah whatever all right then. We shift back to the gifts from mary's mom. And the reason i'm going to spend some time on these as we just get to see the propensity of this family and how they really start to treat mary's mom so when all the other kids were getting really nice things for the holidays. Merry received mary's mother received re gifts like there was a handbag with a used. Kleenex in it. From from the vice. They're disgusting and we also see in this chapter that. Mary's mom has become more and more of a shell of herself There was a holiday where she had basically disappeared. Mary went go find her and she was sitting in the kitchen. Just sort of in a in a state in. Mary cassatt with her and support her. But we see this happen just becoming a shell of herself as her husband grows more and more hill and the families indifference to her becomes more clear. Kinda reminds me of that movie american beauty. Yeah and you know when captain fits. His wife is just sort of sitting in the dining room and and staring off into nowhere. And just staring. Yeah i'm so sorry. The house is such a mess. Like she just nothing. They're not there. Yeah and that's exactly what started to happen with his mom. Mary tells us about donald in evonne wedding at this point. You know what's really funny. In my notes. I put donald and vodkas wedding and i feel like that. Typo is appropriate typos. So we'll see so. Mary's telling us about donald in nevada wedding now. Mary's dad wasn't there and of course donald lied and told everyone will. He wanted him to be. There is going to be as best man. He was going to give the toast which was filled by another family friend but he had to stay back in florida and take care of a family member which wasn't true. None of that was true fred senior. Just didn't want him at the wedding so he's already ostracized him from the family at this point now. There's an amusing anecdote in this chapter. Where mary says as donald was scouring the city for foreclosures after this mary was losing tens of thousands of dollars every week playing monopoly so she sucked at. She says it she's accident. Mary literally says she thinks it was the great joke that the niece of a real estate tycoon sucks so badly it real estate and then she goes on to say and i quote it turns out donald and i had something in common after all. I'm telling you her wits. The surf casting biting win. It's one of the reasons. I love her so much. So now at this point in the chapter. Mary makes just a very quick reference to her father's death because basically donald and fred said after he died that they wish that they encouraged freddie to keep flying. But the inference to this. It wasn't a compliment. It was it was. It was an assumption that freddie wasn't cut out for trump management and as mary said just like there was nothing to suggest freddie lack the skills there was absolutely nothing to suggest that donald had them so for them to say that it was more of an insult in support of their father. Now around nineteen seventy eight. Mary's dad begins getting sicker and sicker during this chapter and he needs a surgery for his heart. So fred is insistent that Mary's mom move him back. Up north to do the surgery in new york he had to get involved avow put in and this is one of a lovely line because they put in a pig valve into his heart. Mary's mom joked with freddie. It's a good thing you're not kosher. There is such a lovely sense of humor in the side of the family. I only really doesn't exist in donald at all god so there was a long recovery from the surgery and a year later. He was doing much better but he had started working for fred again on the maintenance crew of third trump management and he never stopped drinking just part of the problem so this is the year though. They're freddie join them at thanksgiving. And there's a scene where gam starts choking at the table and everyone is unaffected. Alison it's crazy. No one seems to notice to the point yet. It's just a bunch. It's a household of narcissist in this family. Freddie literally took her into the kitchen to save her from choking and then when he returned to the dinner table. There was like a round of applause. Freddie as mary said had killed a mosquito like something very minor. Oh like sarcastic like like golf. Clap if you will which is apropos. Now at this point unfortunately in the house donald even though he didn't live there he become a constant presence because his face was plastered all over magazines and articles basically in the house. Everything in this this basically came from the lawsuit in all of those things that put him in the public eye were his father. Fred kept everything. So this is when the grand hyatt deal comes into play. That was only made possible because fred's relationships with new york -letes however the new york press betrayed the deal as if it was something. Donald had accomplished singlehandedly. Even the press was helping him out at this point in his life which they still do even if they are still got him elected in sixteen. God forbid they don't do this again so now beautiful hotel. Grand hyatt opens in. Freddie wants to throw mary sweet sixteen party there which is such a sweet sentiment. Donald agrees to do it which is shocking that he would agree to do that. And this is what kills me. He offered him a discount. Yeah offered him a discount. His brother a discount to throw his nieces. Sweet sixteen party. He's such a douche. Allison eid. you can't just do it for free. There's a lot of that in this book. Like where where they're like. Oh yeah no yeah. We'll give you a good price on that apartment. That i own or you know it's just so gross. So gross impacting. Mary says that fred was annoyed. Because at freddie for even asking him to have the party at the hotel he was chastised baked. Basically saying donald's too busy for this shit so it turned out after freddie stood up to him. She he did get to throw the sweet sixteen party now at this point and we can all imagine the donna walks in. He spreads his arms nooses in this great. Everything's great look at this great. So he had no desire to be there for his knees he just wanted to prop up the hotel the entire time and it was noticeable because even mary said when he left her friends were like what the hell was that. 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Dot com slash. Msw club so in the summer of nineteen eighty-one marianne put freddie into rehab. They needed to help and they did. The problem is when she picked him up a month later. She brought him right back to where he was living with his father. In gam- he relapsed the next day. They started drinking the next day. He lost everything eventually. All we had was his parents and they resented it. Freddie's very existence infuriated. Fred so unfortunately fred had no ability to see beyond the circumstances he actually created. He created this situation. It was treated off of the power. He had basically fred. Fred davis after that summer though. Mary announced That she was going to go to boarding school in chapter mary's You know it's all these things about sports and scholastic and all of these things. How great the school is But it was basically. She needed out to get away and she wanted to do it quickly. So ready told mary she needed to get permission from her grandfather. Which was very weird. Because basically the money was going to be coming from french trust so it didn't even make sense that she had asked her grandfather but her mom went to see fred and of course fred didn't know why she would want to go away to boarding school. It was weird that she had to ask her grandfather for the money. Because it was coming. From freddie's trust fund So at this point. Freddie stood up for her daughter which is rare. Very rare in this family And then this is. This is where it starts to get a little. More pulling on the heartstrings. The day before she left a boarding school. Mary went to see her grandparents to speak about her dad where he was living as know. Now she went around to the back and gam answered the back door but blocked her from going in which is really interesting because mary wanted to go in. And you know jewish normally does and gamblin letter. She said. freddie wasn't home which is really interesting because of course this confused mary as she had agreed to say goodbye before she went to school and she could actually hear a radio coming from her. Dad's room so it's just a really sad. Sad scene yeah. Mary said Basically told gab. Had call me and She went to go hugger grandmother and it was stiff and cold and it was. There wasn't much. There and mary read her bike home and she says her dad never called so we can all. We all know what that means. But there's more that happens between now and then this point. We cut to marry watching a movie at her new school. There's actually very funny anecdote. Great here before we get into it but apparently a g. The school had winton like a movie night and they went to go. Have a movie all of a sudden. The projector stops the lights. Go on because the movie that they were supposed to have was accidentally replaced by a movie containing a very early rape scene in. Its this college that was not supposed to be in their lights are up the faculties freaking out. What's interesting is during the chaos of this. Mary sees one for teachers Walking toward her so this teachers also a friend and mary obviously was concerned. The teacher told her she needed to call home and she did for. She called home. There was no answer in scholar grandparents and really didn't think that there is any sort of problem at this point especially when gam answer because she knew at this point that it wasn't gam which great nowhere in her mind. She think it was your dad. fred said that. Mary's mom had just left to. Fred told mary your mom just left and should be home soon. Why don't you try. And give her a call on a little bit and basically told mary that freddie was taken to the hospital but it was nothing to worry about. You know. Sort of like covert. It's it's it's it's nothing worse than the flu. Don't don't worry about it everything's fine. Mary challenged him in. Which never happened asking fred if it was her dad's heart and that just didn't happen in the family Fred got very cold and basically told her to go to sleep and call her mom in the morning. Mary immediately called her mom in this time mary answered mary's mother answered and mary's mom told her her father had a heart attack and mary's dad had died. So this was september. twenty six and nineteen eighty-one. Now she goes into saying. There's a little bit of back and forth in this chapter on the time line. So mary's telling us basically september twenty six nineteen eighty-one. Someone called the ambulance now. The trump said given a tremendous amount of money to two of the major fact facilities in the area and they could have gotten freddy. The best care just one phone call. No one made the phone call. The ambulance took freddie to the hospital alone and the info coming from the hospital made it clear that freddie was going to die. No one went to see him. This is a pattern in this family. And i'm sure as you're listening to this. You know that this sounds very familiar. Donald and elizabeth went to the movies as their brother was dying in the hospital. No surprise that. Donald went golfing while rob was dying in the hospital. It's a pattern so. Mary's father died that night and nine twenty. He was forty two years old. I think it's sort of like a insinuated. That when fred said everything was fine and call your mom in the morning that freddie had already died. Oh absolutely and fred new in the chapter. Yeah oh absolutely hated it. It's just such an unfeeling family. It's it's amazing. As we both got to know mary how honestly even though she's going through hell with the rest of us she's actually a really loving and empathic human being. Thank god thou has. We continue on with the chapter. When mary got home the family had already gotten together to plan the funeral. No-one said much as you can imagine the later joked to the funeral home for private. Viewing now at this point. Mary asked rob her uncle rob if he could see her. Dad's body rob said. It was impossible so infuriating. Mary just wanted to see her father. She didn't believe she just couldn't believe he was dead. Like she didn't know he was that sick But all she could express. Rob's i just wanna see him and he wouldn't allow it and at this point mary physically steps in front of him rob just walks around her and continues walking. Feeling the men in this family other than freddie seemed to be quite lacking any sort of feeling at the wake. No-one seem to be affected by freddie's death. Mary wanted to make sure her dad was going to be cremated and donald said he was going to be buried because donald is a dick in. That sounds like something. Donald would say just to be an asshole. This is really interesting. The week actually fell in the first night of russia. Now freddie's friend. Stu went to pay his respects so so interesting because he he made the mistake of walking up to fred at this point and he looked he said to him. Fred it looks like the real estate was Wasn't going so well. And he hoped donald was okay. He says it sounds like he owes the bank lots of money. An all fred said was. Don't worry about donald. He's going to be just fine. A and i see everything that's happening at night. You know when just taking a little subway real. At least chapter so long. But i talked to mary after our death and We were both like. Why does everything fall in this guy's direction like why does it always have to in the saying. Don't worry everything's gonna be just fine. It's infuriating it's infuriating. Samari goes on to say that. Her brother gave a nice eulogy but he didn't. This was interesting. He didn't shy away from the realities of his dad. Being the black sheep in the family and it was nice. Mary actually was jealous for brother in this moment because he dare spoke the truth to everyone. That was listening as the wake judaic close people gave respects and this is when we see her aunt. Elizabeth basically lose it. No one had really seen this before she literally crumbles to the side balling after a very long time. When no one did anything finally donald and robert went to help their sister up so at this point. Mary goes to say goodbye to her. Dad and It's interesting he said. She said she became very embarrassed when she realized that she may not be talking to the correct end of the casket because obviously was close casting. Close casket just. She just walked away. I mean we have to remember. She was sixteen years old at this time for someone have to handle this but she made it very clear again and she wanted his ashes spread over the waters of the atlantic ocean and they did not want him buried so fred refused to have his ashes taken to montauk which as we know. He was very upset about that place. He didn't like what it stood for. He didn't like that he spent time there. He didn't like the flying any of it so he refused to let that happen. And basically they put the ashes into a box and they buried him in the ground which is exactly what he did not want and the other thing mary mentioned in this chapter right here. Is that the death certificate. Said he died of natural causes and the date on the death certificate. Wasn't even correct. It was off by two days. I think it was marked the twenty ninth of september. Wow yeah so at this in the chapter which is still living in the hardest parts right here. The house that ma-. Mary says began to grow colder as mary got older than the first thanksgiving after her. Dad was incredibly weird right. Rob basically ivanka at this point was a baby and she was there and rob basically inferred that the birth of vodka had made up for the death of mary's dad and it was. I mean yeah. Basically like in with old out with a new is what. Mary said that she just assumed was trying to relay. And with no surprise fred. donald seemed completely unaffected. That freddie wasn't there and didn't didn't he actually like gesture over to ivanka's crib and say something like well. You know what they say or something. Just awful in with oil. Yeah yeah it's it's. I don't think i've ever witnessed a family with as little empathy as this spats and hate to include because i hate to include marianne her father in that even though the part of the family because they they're not like these other people and it seems like elizabeth has its somewhere in there anyway when mary and her brother went home for christmas vacation. This is when things start to get very sticky. They met with the family lawyer to go over the details of her father's estate now. This is irwin so. Mary was actually surprised that her father even had an estate. Because no one ever talked about a. She assumed her her dad died penniless the trust to be split between her and her brother and at this point the trusts were managed by the lawyer. Mary-anne donald and robert irwin was the call. So she had to call him to take care of everything but donald was in charge of signing the checks. We all know that this is not going to go well. So basically the main goal for. Mary was to make sure that her mother was taking care of understandably now the actual amount of money that her dad had wasn't clear because the trusts were incredibly incredibly complex so even the amount of money she. Her brother had was very unclear. Now the other thing is that there was a massive tax burden that irwin had started to tell them and Basically he pushed these papers across the table and the chapter ends with the lawyer asking them to sign in. Mary said she hadn't understood any of it. Yeah by design. I'm sure absolutely she sixteen. We have to remember she's sixteen. Yeah and it's just so alike even a trustee is supposed to have your fiduciary like they're supposed to be act in good faith by law. I mean you know the same lawyers though that like you know the the divorce agreements and you know they they Favored donald enough ready. I mean this has been going on forever with family. It's all of the lawyers that are associated with the trump family. Seemed to be sketchiest. Shit yeah i mean even when everyone was alive at their live in one bedroom apartments in studio apartments that leaked and made people sick and couldn't get anything done and a couldn't go to the hospitals that you know that had had a massive donations made to them and were given discount set At hotels for sweet sixteens and shit like that. And it's just it's it's bananas like hundreds of millions of dollars that you just throw at donald to ride around in cadillacs and you know be a hawk going on people's foreclosed dream homes and shit like that losers as he calls them and and just throw that money and then But you know everyone else nope and and no one felt like they could even talk about it and everyone felt like they were just. He didn't have any money and they were just sort of living paycheck to paycheck. They just happen to be trump's. It's just the weirdest thing it really is. I mean this family of all. I'm like holy crap. This book goes on. I'm like whoa. Yeah and chapter nine. Which i'll go over now. It gets into more of the business in the money part. It's called the art of the bailout. And it opens with mary recalling the tabloid headlines that mary trump gam had been mugged in one thousand. Nine hundred one Though it was more than a mugging right. She was assaulted by this kid. Kit bashed her head against the car so hard that her brain had hemorrhaged. She fractured her pelvis when she hit the ground So she smashed. Her head passed out. Hit the ground cracker pelvis and she was taken to the hospital. She was in grave condition in intensive care for a while and the pain was unbearable for weeks. After that before you know she could start receiving visitors to eat just even being so much pain that she could. You know accept visitors but once she stabilized. Mary did visitor every day. She visited gam and donald stopped by one time on one of these visits next to the bed. Put his feet up on the side of the bed. Like an asshole and gam told donald. The mary's been stopping by every day to which donald replies immediately must be nice to have so much free time I mean there's ninety six things wrong with that fucking statement. If anybody ever said that to me in my presence. I would hit them. I would fucking hit them. Game just rolled her eyes right. Mary tried not to laugh and then she asked. Donald you know just polite small talk. How are the kids. And he didn't say much just sort of rambled on about himself for like ten minutes and then left. Just left and then gam goes. Somebody's cranky. Which made mary laugh. I mean gamma sense humor too. I love it i know you. It's like i don't know how it feels like anyone who had a sense of humor had to use it in order to just make it through this family Yeah and then. Mary actually defended donald because she's a human person with feelings and said well he's having a rough time right now you know. And that's because one of casinos. The taj mahal just declared bankruptcy and he got caught having an affair with marla maples. Right and the banks put them on an allowance poor thing and he had just tried to publish his second book the art of survival. Which you've never heard of because no one bought it. My favorite thing about my favorite thing about the casino issue is the reason the taj mahal failed is because he billed casino next to it. There was competing in taking all of its business. He he's just he's just a moron stupid and they talk about that a little bit but Mary was like. I'll go easy on him. He's having a rough time. Right and gam said poor donald and then talked about what an asshole and a slobby wasim would've dickey was now. He never listened to anyone and she said donald got away with murder when he was a kid. By that time. Fred senior had just had a hip replacement and his mental state started to deteriorate And like the nurses would find him in the middle of the night trying to leave the house in his underwear saying he was looking for his wife and couldn't find her and mary said gam seemed pretty happy not to be found. This is where that biting wit comes in that you're talking about you know the chapter shifts then to donald's manhattan projects and the grand hyatt which you had mentioned in chapter eight and trump tower which were built in eighty and eighty three respectively as it turns out Trump tower was riddled with issues including mob ties and abysmal treatment of undocumented workers and apparently donald had promised to preserve the art deco facade of the old bond with teller building that he had to destroy in order to build trump tower but when he found out that it would cost money to preserve those facades he just destroyed them and declared they had no artistic value and said he knew better than the expert. Assessments i'm god. He's been doing this that that line. I know better than in general's anybody scientists. Mary says quote over time that attitude that he knew better would become entrenched knowledge. Base has had decreased his claims to know everything have increased in direct proportion to his insecurity which is where we are now. And you're right he does. He says he knows better than the generals. I know better. Only i can fix it. Better than the fda. The cdc hhs intell- intelligence agency anything letters trump knows. Donald knows better. He probably doesn't know what any of that stands for. But he knows but the list goes on right and so donald decide to get his gaming license in nineteen eighty. Two though fred was against it he did. He wasn't into the idea of casinos and it was at that time. Marianne asks donald to ask roy cohn to call in a favor and she went from assistant. District attorney in new jersey to a judge in the us district court in new jersey and donald then But hera's in eighty four and trump's castle in eighty-five because it's super smart to buy casinos to compete with your other casinos early. But it's just like. I mean it was the point god. He's such an idiot like he thought that. Because fr- know fred is dad was buying building and building and building and in brooklyn. Yeah that oh hey money times three. That's the he can't think beyond anything he just do. You know he just doesn't he. He can't play that kind of chess game in his head. He just doesn't have that sense. It's interesting too because in this whole casino deal in married isn't right about this in the book but those are the following. This is when he started to get in trouble with the law because he started to get in trouble with he knows exactly how campaign finance laws work because he was getting in trouble with campaign finance during this time by bribing politicians and stuff is so. It's really interesting. Mary doesn't necessarily right about it but if we follow his career that's why when he always says i didn't know that was illegal. Yeah you did every single time. You did you totally did because you did it. And were investigated for it and and you know there's been a lot of Speculation out there as to why. He's never gotten in trouble for all of the crimes that he's committed over the decades and there are people and i tend to agree with them. That say he might have been a criminal informant interesting. And he might have a file as being an informant for for the feds for a long time but we'll see anyway donald so he bought harrah's in eighty four in the castle right and eighty five but mary says quote by then donald ventures carried billions with a b in debt. And despite that he bought mar-a-lago in nineteen eighty eight and a twenty nine million dollar yacht to boot same year than in eighty nine. He bought the eastern airline shuttle for three hundred sixty five million dollars and in one thousand. Nine hundred ninety. He had to issue seven hundred million dollars in junk bonds at fourteen percent interest to finish the taj mahal. Because that's the smart business move. But donald didn't understand and refuse to learn that owning and running casinos were vastly different from owning and running rental properties in brooklyn from the business model in the market to the customer base in the calculus involved because he couldn't see that glaring distinction. It was easy for him to believe. That moore was better in atlantic city. He just dumb. he's just fucking dumb. This it is just I mean it it's like owning a taco joint an opening up another tango. Join next to it not understanding. You know one of them's making half what it used to make it. He's just not as but you're overheads double now stupid you're paying for two places and there's still only the same amount of people eating tacos in the area and mary configure out like mary was like. Why are the banks and investors fucking still lending to wear the objecting. But nobody said no to him. You know like you said everything's going his way and by august surviving at the top was published That's the one that became it became the art of survival and the timing was enough to qualify parody. Mary says because it was called surviving at the top. Oops the art of survival. Let's let's call it that instead and right around that. Donald had mr forty three million dollar payment on trump's castle and this is when his dad sent a driver to buy three point one five million dollars in chips with no intention of gambling with them. And you fred would eventually have to pay a thirty thousand dollar fine for the gaming rules for gaming commission for unauthorized lending. But it was too late right. The three casinos carried nearly one hundred million dollars in debt because they were cannibalizing each other's business and that's when the banks put him on an allowance. That's the allowance that you talked about the allowance. I mentioned a minute ago. Four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a month and he had to check in weekly with the banks to show. He was trying to sell some of his crap right like sell the yacht donald. Okay right you never fucking sell the And they also agreed to cover his operating expenses at the casinos. Here's four hundred thousand a month. We'll cover your operating Things don't just stop doing stuff. Basically i you know. Hey g. I find myself intelligent woman. I don't understand why the fuck donald to be on an allowance from a bank in the first place. Like what are they getting out of this. He's clearly losing money left and right probably massive interests debt payoffs from pri- private hedge funds that are funded by russia. But god i you know. That's all speculation. That's different podcast. Called the daily beans use. Check it out So that. Mary says quote. That's almost five point. Five million a year for failing miserably. I mean if i could just get half of that defend miserably. I'd be very happy. I would take like there was a thing here. In san diego. We have seal beach. Which is where the seals spun and shit and do their thing spawn. Fuck i don't know what whatever seals do doesn't sound like you like seals very much love the seals in the deserve beach right but the hoyas the very rich lawyers want that to be for their kids right seals off the beach so for for decades now just suits humans and seal share the beach or we're going to get rid of the seals. Eventually the somebody said one of the mayor. I don't know somebody little fucking king was like we've decided we're going to take the seals off the beach and give it to the people and the contract for removing the seals from the beach was one point six million dollars and my friends. Sonae said dude. I bet we could do it for like a hundred grand and so here we were like saying we put together a like a a business proposal and just pictures of her and i and we would say look. Do you see any seals around us anywhere. We are so good at not having seals around us that you should. We'll do this for a hundred thousand dollars online god. It reminds me of a kid joke. Why do elephants paint their toenails. Red oh to hide in the cherry tree. Yep have you ever seen an elephant cherry. It must be working punchline delivery. I love kids jokes. I know me too. I do too. It makes me mad. Yeah like why did. The bumblebee wear a yarmulke to the garden party. Why he didn't want anyone to think he was a wasp. Okay this is my favorite one because it gets funnier. I think might get more funny as you drink. But i think it's just hilarious. Turtle gut jumped three snails and when the cops asked him what happened he goes. I don't know it all happened. So fast took his just funny. You guys worse sober by the way totally percent. I mean not always but like no no. Hey everybody it's ag for the must've your book club. And i love sleeping sleeping and reading. The news are tied for my two most favorite activities. 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He put ten million dollars to ivonne for the for the divorce. Right but the banks didn't flinch and donald ego and the feeling he could do whatever the fuck you want just ballooned and it was around this time. Our intrepid author was attending tufts university. At one point. She'd been robbed and gam gave her some money right which prompted an angry phone. Call from irwin yelling at her for asking him for money. i didn't. I told game. I was mugged game just offered and then game said don't don't ever turn down and give the money and irwin warned mary that fred senior was watching her and thinking of disowning her and he was pissed that he couldn't read the signature. She endorsed checks with so he she had to change that and play quote unquote the game. Whatever the fuck that means the family was she says more like a bureaucracy than a family and that kind of holds true with all the lack of emotions and but even at work like if somebody there's more emotions where i work then in this bureaucracy but and there's not a lot yet but it's at this point that we learned that donald was mary's trustee am i now donald was on his bank loans and no one would lend any him any money But donald blamed the economy bad luck and the bank's never himself rating ever blames himself for any of course of course not taught him that never accept responsibility. Blame the other guy deny deny deny attack and this is just like his. Dad blamed steeplechase. On freddie so fred knew all of the games donald was playing because he taught him how to play them lying cheating. Bribing politicians those were all legitimate. Business practices in fred's is and became such in donald's is to quote the most effective game for father and son was the shell game while fred kept turning out projects. He was fattening his wallet with taxpayer money by skimming off the top and allegedly committing so much tax fraud. That has four. Children continue to benefit from it for decades while the rubes focused on the salacious details donald kept generating for the tabloids. Fred was building a reputation for success based on bad loans bad investments and worst judgment But while fred actually ran an income generating business. Donald only had his ability to spin and his father's money to prop up illusion. Mary says so. It got to the point where neither of them could face financial reality And and donald's belief that no matter what he would be okay. was fortified right. That was sort of short up there. And that guaranteed donald. We would never change. Because he didn't need to write quote it also guaranteed a cascade of increasingly consequential failures that would ultimately render all of us collateral damage. Jesus and then next here. In the chapter is the story of the the codicil. Donald approached his lawyer or when durbin and his accountant jack. Mitnick jackson durban durban. And mitnick. fuck you and they all have horrible names to any a gross and he wants he. Donald wants to draft a causal to fred. Seniors will that would put donald is like a like an addendum like an amendment. I guess it would put me. But donald and total control of the estate when fred died and as much as i hate fred senior. These two assholes approached him with this like it was his idea and tried to get him to sign it and you know he's falling into dementia. But fred was having like more of a lucid day. That day got. We didn't understand what was happening. But he was pissed and he refused to sign it and gam told the other kids and marianne had one of her husband's colleagues. Look at at this. Th this codicil and donald scheme just unraveled and it was then fred. Fred rewrote his entire will make all four siblings executors so donald tried to pull that shit on he. He over played his cards. And i'm praying. I'm praying he does that now. You know what i mean. Either he gets to a point where he gets so greedy that he overplays his cards and someone says and things fall apart. I'm really hoping that somehow that happens with us. It hasn't though right like he. Overplayed his cards and withholding of funds to ukraine. That were appropriated by congress against the law and True and he was acquitted in the senate for that Like every the muller investigation just hundreds and hundreds of pages of of collusion Eleven accounts obstruction of justice off the hook like he just keeps getting away with everything and and it's continuing in this in this presidency and it's it's hard to watch an apparently at some point we'll the chapter ends with the story about donald hiring mary to go straight his next book. The art of the comeback and this is one of those stories dana again. this really highlights. Mary's wit that you spoke about earlier and apparently trump got a letter by from tufts university asking for money a mary. Road it right Asking for money for tufts and and called her up and said Ghost write my book at first of all told her about leonard. Like oh my god. I'm sorry they sent you that. That's rude you know like that was for us. Not you just because you're my uncle. Sorry about that. He's like no. This is great. Great letter. And i want you to ghost. Write my book and she realized later why he liked the letter. It's because mary was really gifted at making other people look really good. You know so. She got an office and a desk at trump tower and trump organization. One of the guys in the office said he would drop off Or one of the guys in the office said he would drop off folders on of material that she could work with right on her desk. I'll just bring you folders of stuff and put it on your desk 'cause there. She wasn't sure the book was even supposed to be about outside abroad and rice from the title the comeback. She said here. I haven't. I haven't read other books. But i understood a lot about them until that. She wanted to return to the seriousness of the second book. As she said about quote trying to explain how under the most adverse circumstances he emerged from the depths victorious and more successful than he'd ever been. He was about to file for his fourth bankruptcy. I mean who's goal isn't for success to file by that time their fourth bankruptcy. It's only his four if there would be more to come so he was still will So she would stop by trump's office every morning donald office and he'd usually be on a call saying something gross about women are talking about. How much excitement and he'd be looking through newspaper clippings about himself. That people were paid to gather for him on a daily basis. So there there's a meeting there was a meeting. I'm sure we're trump was like clipping everything you find about me in the newspapers and the tabloids bring it to me in a folder every morning on my desk at eight. Am thank you and then he would just sit and rifled through the folder of him and then he would take a felt marker and right like what he thought to be. Witty comebacks on these articles is kind of reminiscent of my god. The hurricane map that he drew on but he would ask mary how. How awesome is this. Come and look at the my reply here but like the so. It's like twitter. It's like sharing twitter. Replies or sub tweeting articles and felt tip pen and she was struggling to come up with any substance for the book when donald colder when night and said. Hey i've written some things. I have a few pages. It's really good. I wish that she had saved and rented and released to the general public. Because that would have been fucking magic. I wish i wish it were somewhere. What she got was was ten typewritten pages which was clearly a transcript that he paid someone to type out of a recording that he had made of himself which was just an incoherent stream of consciousness. She said it was an aggrieved. Compendium of women had expected to date but who having refused him. Were suddenly the worst ugliest and fateh slobs he'd ever met. The biggest takeaways were that madonna chewed gum. In a way. Donald found unattractive and katharina vit- german figure skater who had won two gold medals and for we'll championships had big calves. I stopped asking him for an interview. I know. I know no one treats women better than i do. Know one respects women. More than i do grosse ile at one point. Donald asked how mary's mom was doing because he hadn't seen her in four years. Because i von a refused to go to the house if she was there and then he said. I think we made a big mistake continuing to support your mother. It might have been better if we'd cut her off after a couple of years and she had to stand on her own. Two feet trump said that to mary about mary's mom and mary didn't know it at the time but when donald said that he was getting the four hundred and fifty thousand dollar allowance a month from the banks and the banks the banks. Not even. we're not even doing anything from the banks that has to be so hard to learn some shit and project back to the past to look at events through the lens of new information infuriating. I no wonder she holds so much anger toward him. Yeah it's like Like dana get personal here for a second. My my ex husband. Who is now. In a restraining order was abuse i had to flee he. He was clandestinely recording me and would eventually like play sex tapes of me in public and my listeners. Know about this already but i. It occurred to me just recently when he was recording. Everything that was happening in our bedroom he also was able to pick up all of my therapy sessions. Oh my god and it just occurred to me. Gm so sorry that that violation yeah. That's what this kind of shit reminds me of like just how you think back. You know like if you lose. Somebody's breaks in your car and steals your laptop. I try not to think about how many jokes and things were on that laptop. How many scripts and whatever you just kind of block it out of your head but yeah. She didn't even realize at the time what donald was like. We should have cut your mother off that he was getting four hundred and fifty thousand dollars a month from the bank dot kind of that. Kind of retroactive. Realization just sucks. You know painful. Yeah yeah so at one point. Mary wanted mary went to mar-a-lago with donald thought she'd have something to write regarding the property and he arranged for her to meet with philip johnson the architect that trump would say designed his portico share at the taj mahal. Turns out donald was trying to say was porta cochet. Which is french for carport. Poco share so unrefined and tacky and nouveau riche disgusting good. Mary flood down tomorrow log on his plane. Donald was like what do you think. What do you think sound familiar. Like gesturing mclean. It's she's like it's great. Donald she goes. I knew the drill. It's great donald. Everything's great and here's the thing on the plane. People would bring donald envelopes. He would open and then toss on the floor when he was done and someone would come and pick them up and put them in the trash over and over and over again and mary had to move and turn around said so she didn't have to see that it upset her to watch him treat people like that. And when they got to mar-a-lago she talks about how she was hanging out at the pool. She was under bathing suit walking around. Because it's kind of like you know casual resort and donald said. Wow you're stacked and and added Mary says unfortunately for the book that was about the only interesting thing that happened during my entire visit to palm beach but how she got embarrassed. She turned bright red. Like how gross is that. He's a creep. He's a creep. I mean you know there. There's you know the news coming out that. He was on one of the logs to jeffrey absence island. We know this. He's a creep. He's a he's a he's a sexual predator he's a creep and he's he. He's like this with his own daughter. Yeah every female in the family. That's younger than him. Yeah i was sleep. I if she weren't my daughter i'd be dating or like yeah who who Anyway they left. Mar-a-lago went back to new york america. Tell donald wasn't was getting pretty sick of her asking for an interview so instead he just gave her a list of names to speak with. She spoke to them. They were like casino presidents and shit and they just gave very can shitty answers. She just didn't have anything to work with. Because there's nothing fucking there and right. That's when donald told her that the editor wanted to meet with her and that's when they fired her she went to lunch. Fighter her to push back a little in the editor. Said you can't just wasn't good. You can't expect to play mozart a mozart concerto. The first time you sit down at the piano she says if i just learned the alphabet the day before and she pushed like donald. Donald says he liked what i had so far. And that's when the editor said donald hasn't read any of it. And then mary says to end the chapter here. She says. I stopped at the office to clear out my desk. I wasn't upset. I didn't even mind that. Donald had someone else fire me. He never fires people himself right despite his poor depiction on the apprentice he had sessions fire. Mccabe had komi fired over twitter. He never fires anyone himself. he's too much of a coward. She says even though he had someone else fire me. The project hit a wall. Besides after all that time i spent in his office. I still had no idea what he actually did. It's just unbelievable. To and now that marysville in her own book and she sold more copies in one day then the art of the deal solan twenty nine years you think donald may have wanted to keep her on board to write this book he might have sold. Some copies reminded actually gotten i mean. Come on anything right. I just i imagine you remember. We're talking to in an earlier chapter about the house. The library in the house which didn't have any books on the shelves which is pictures of donald take so many copies of too much never enough and just put them on just sneak in one day and just do that and When i interviewed mary she said you know i mentioned the record of broke and she said you know it's got gotta be under donald scan and she's like i don't even think he knows about that. I don't think he. I don't think people i think i don't think people are allowing him to have that information. They're trying to keep him from it. I said are you kidding me. He is researching the numbers day and night. He absolutely knows it. Your book sold more one day than his as in two thousand nine years. She started laughing she goes. Yeah yeah you're probably right well. Those are pretty heavy chapters man. Yeah y'all get a pallet cleanser look at some kitten videos whatever you need to do but to the heavy heavier chapters in the book. But just know we've got more some more humorous lines coming up in some in later chapters. And she's so good money but you know what he's a fucked up man in its effect of family so this is the book we've gotten into just strap in this. We're going to keep going like karate or already on episode for we gotta we gotta keep going to finish but it's just such a compelling book so well written and it gives you so much insight into the through lines between how donald was raised. And how he's acting now and and again. Mary is just such. she's just such a wonderful person. heard humor is stellar and her her f- inside. I is so good. You know what i mean. It's so good. Oh written with a pen. It'd be able to written word in the pen to be able to put it and have it translate through a book and you're like oh god that was so good that line who so good. I can appreciate it appreciate it. Yeah me too. All right well thanks for installment. We will have episode five for you next time. We're gonna do chapters ten eleven and twelve so if you haven't read the book or you're reading along that's what we're going to cover it next week and it's been great any final thoughts on on. I mean great for you know to speak with you and cover this incredible book things stellar. No i mean final. Thought you know we've had a hell of a week and we two weeks now and just take care of yourself. Breathe to each other I know that agee's You're going to echo some of that. But just remember what you can. Do you know. Keep phone banking. Keep getting the word out. Keep getting people new voters out to vote and just try and try and keep some hope. Try keep some hope life if you can absolutely and until next week until we talk to you again please take care of yourselves. Take care of each other. Take care of your mental health and take care of the planet. I've been ag. I've been digi and this is the msw book club. The msw is executive produced by alison. Go in partnership with msw media and written by alison gillan dina goldberg. Sound design and engineering by molly. Hockey jesse are copywriter and our art and web designer by joel reader. Moxie design students. The msw book club is a proud member of msw media. A group of creator owned podcast focused on news justice and politics for more information visit. Msn media dot com.

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"This is the motivation. Dr back with another episode of coast-to-coast. I'm frank i'm joined boma boys fondue and my brother from another mother hung how you playboys doing on this find sunday. Doing great man just chilling on a sunday. Can we talk to you guys about all our different topics. Thank you again man. This is fucking awesome. Awesome segment that. I always look forward to hung how you doing. Thank you for having me again guys. Amazing sunday just trying to enjoy guys. Shout out to the man. Thanks for last time you were on with us. Yeah man thanks for joining do last time you were wrong with us on the last forties of you were with us on. You talked about crypto and you got a so many followers so many people were asking questions so many people were just starting to follow us in that episode. Got hella clicks saw bring firebrand energy on this episode. Glad to have you back man. I well a. I'm all i know is bro. I got a wild crazy story. I was trying. I was trying to share with frank the other night. Where like crypto and money is out there right was there's money we don't even know that dude dude walk ado. Walking next to us can literally be multimillionaire. And you can't even tell nowadays because of all this wild money going around in in twenty twenty one. There's money everywhere i mean. We can just trying to get me some exactly. I mean let's be real here. A crypto coin is really thin. Air like it means nothing right until somebody evaluates it right and goes hey. This thing is called doggy. And it's worth ten cents. You know so things like that is wild to me and so time trying to tell frank this this story i. I went to see my sister this weekend. And she lives right off. Pch she liked lives five minutes away from seal beach right. And like if you don't know where this is at its wealthy right like this is long beach where they've completely gentrified it. I mean i remember back in high school. Will we go to long beach. And we were scared to get jacked. Correct me if i'm wrong here. Fawns or frank. I mean bro. We used to go to long beach back in the nineties and thought we'd get shot right. I prefer to stay out of that place exactly. Well it ain't the same in two thousand twenty one jets. You go back there. And there's money there's like it's been gentrified like there's like bentley's rolling down the street there's peers there's peers with yachts like you know what a yacht is like. I mean i know we all heard what a yacht is. We've seen it on on on google and stuff but when you're sitting eating barbecue and there's thirty yachts on the pier forty feet away that's wealth you know. And so like. I was telling frank this the story out having lunch with my sister and i was like i was. Bs in our game about the same stuff. I always do not like looks this. I love you. And i'm gonna do everything i can to. I'm gonna give you a million dollars when all of this is done. Like when i'm done all with all my investments and everything i'm giving you a million dollars and i'm saying this out loud and this random dude next to me is like a man i i like. What's this about. This game stopped. You keep talking about or whatever it ray and do. He's just started chopping it up with me dude. Random white guy really cool just didn't very unassuming right and was really cool but he was also saying a lot of wild stuff like you know like yeah man. I do investing i. You know i'm semi retired. You know i'm thinking about putting like maybe half a million dollars on this thing in seat see where this game stopping goes but do literally was like hey man. The fundamentals are right like he. I don't know who this guy is. But he's like hey what you're talking make sense anyways. And then what did he leave off of so check this out like i didn't pay no attention to whatever right like him or cool he gets up. He pays leaves with his homey right and walks over to one of those yachts and boats his ass away and i didn't talk about man cheang. Yeah mangoes a guy that just talked to about game stop and like oh shit i mean like i honestly thought he could have been a mechanic but but that's just the the money that's out there now and that's just the the craziness that's out here. What if he was just jack that fucking yai auto just told that guy that i'm gonna buy have enough guess another now. That's exactly what he did. He was just trying to stash crash on the shores of insen have with the barbecue. I geared that guy's legit and he isn't a thief ran. I literally was eating some like some like twenty dollars barbecue next like multimillionaires and didn't i didn't know it myself bro. And that's where i feel like. I think that that that just tells me there's enough money out there for all of us and we just gotta be smart invest right row so honestly man keep like i think cripples the future i think people are scared of crypto because guess what you can't tax it yeah no agreement but You know what the the crazy shit is though that So what do you think about about el salvador like officially starting to use it. Like like my. To my knowledge. It's the first country to actually set. Critic crypto at its currency source right. Yeah but they're fucking it up bro beyond over dude. Here's the fuck of problem with el salvador like el salvadorians. Like believe what they see as as is reality okay. So crypto in itself is secure but the way that they created their wallet. App is insecure yet. No it's both it's it's it's not working correctly right. Well no it's not no no no. I think that's a false statement. When you say not working correctly it means that someone intentionally tried to make it work properly and then failed and someone's stealing stuff. No i feel like it was more evil brew. Mostly they set these salvadorians up for failure. Dude like bro. you're making a wallet with a face. Recognition affect basically could. Just use a picture to bypass so people being robbed lifting right. Yeah like it's not crypto. That's failing it's the app and the wallet that they're using in el salvador crypto. Look bad. Yeah so yeah. That's exactly what it is. But i didn't know where it came from. The article that i was reading was just saying that like there was a lot of romania transactions. Happening like Do try to pull out I don't know like a couple of grand in cash right. He tried converted from from bitcoin to you know to regular cash and that she was not recognized and he's he's tried to contact the the wallet which is called chievo by the way the app. Yeah yeah it's called goat dude. Yeah nice and Already downloading it. I know right but and they said they haven't responded to him yet. I like my money. I know so. It says a ninety. Three percent of companies still haven't like their goal was to get like a whole bunch of companies started accepting. But they have it like it's only like seven percent of their of all companies do The government is taking payments in bitcoin. Though which is. I don't know it's kind of interesting. Yeah i don't like. That's why i'm trying to say like bitcoin. In itself in crypto in itself isn't isn't insecure. In fact it's the most secure thing. The problem is with the the way that they try to implement it and the technology that they did it was like subpar. I mean bro. Like in america. That's why we don't even have actual wallets in america and uk quite yet like look at the japanese. That's all i'm saying. Look at the japanese. They're the most technologically advanced on this earth. No matter what you say bro. Their toilets are more advanced than our some of our our our airplanes. You know what i mean but they get to have a wallet safe enough to deal with this You follow me. I mean. I just look at things like that. Where like the implementation in itself makes it look bad and now el salvadorians. Don't trust bitcoin. And they're just gonna fall back into money or whatever the heck they were before. I fear that that's going to reverberate through the entire market. So do you think that like this would be like what what the salvador's doing now with that. I mean the way. I look at it. It's kind of like well. This is kind of like a testing ground like a small-scale right 'cause like i mean look at how big is salvador's economy. It can't be that big right. it's a smaller country. The dependent on a lot of What are they called People sending money back. There's a special word for thing right now Yeah i know what your money transactions. Yeah th there's this terminal of finance back into from from outside the country run. it's like that though. Yeah it's the piano that lead the country and send money back right. yeah i'm blanking on the on the specific term. But anyway so they rely on that for their economy So do you think like this kind of show the world what could happen right at the very least say a these are the pitfalls for when you when you wanna adopt crypto as as a major source of currency in your country absolutely i absolutely the world is watching everything i mean dude but i i do believe that like the right countries aren't gonna be scared away from it when the time comes. I mean just like think think of think of think of how scared people were of of electrification right. I i hate to Switch gears like this. Remember how all the companies were like. We don't need electricity. We don't need electricity. And then tesla came and made all these cars and everybody started buying. The cars will when everybody started buying the cars. Electrification came all the brands now. The racing to make electric cars. Same shit bro. Like as all it takes is one domino to fall and the rest of the rest of the countries will adopt group doing the same manner. You know what i mean grant right point the i think the biggest concern for most governments is crypto essentially makes banks obsolete. If you take steady back look at look at what we're talking about. Look at it closely banks off 'love' fucking bank of america. No longer can take a little bit a chunk of your money. If i pay you in crypto matter how czar so basically how how would that work with taxes and shit then because nobody would know how much money you got right. That's the whole point of crypto is like you don't like like it's impossible to tell how much money somebody has until they cash out right there. You go then you so exactly. It's just like a stock. Though right like dude you could hold a stock for like fifty years. But they can't tax you until you sell that story and make the only thing that worries me is the fact that like your money's always in flux you know what i mean because until you cash out. Your money's always fluctuating depending on what the stock market is doing. So it's like one day you could be up another day you you know what i mean. She can happen. What are you gonna do all funds. You could say the same about the dollar. So if i had a million dollars any bank right and today the dollar is worth one one dollar and fifteen cents. Canadian whatever right. While next week it might be worth one dollars. Seven cents canadian bro. That million just was less than last week. Yeah it's it's do. Everything's gonna be affected whether it be inflation or deflation. It's always the whatever you hold is always gonna be devalued somehow some way you know what i mean. It's it's nature. i guess so. I don't think. I don't think a concern for me. I don't know i mean i. It's a good point. I i do believe. It's a good point but i don't care the dollar values. Go back to the bartering system and ashoka. Hey it's just like when you buy gold like dude been buy gold bro by all goal and keep gold bars in your house because guess what i've never seen gold go down like for too long right now i'm gonna i'm gonna i'm gonna trae strictly with like h well. How many ace. Jay's would a laptop costs like a brand new one like a brand new surface four. Well what. I'm thinking only half a laptop look oregon's you got them big handful. You got them meeting over dude but no yeah i just i just it's hard. It's hard to imagine you know where we're going to end up with. This whole crypto thing. I really. I'm kind of excited. But it's you know it's it'd be dude it. It'd be a revolutionary change for free everything it just. It'll change everything. yes everything of. Yeah like why. Why are you scared like me. Needs to come same thing with getting rid of gasoline cars. It needs to come. It's been some yeah. Why for years for years. No one's ever questioned the banks. No one's ever questioned. Why were you conscious at gas cars. You know what i mean. People need we need to be looking at other alternatives. I mean for years and years. Local wells fargo was doing to people man how many people lost houses how many people lost shit tons of money. Your i mean. People don't trust banks no more so this is a way to take that power back into the hands of the people and we have a chance right now to build a system that we believe in that is fair for everybody. You don't amis. Oh no what has so. What happens when when something like. That challenges. The norm frank when normally atkins let me tell you Big comes in shoots shit ton of money down. Somebody's throat and then it goes away forever. Start going against it. They start putting out bad stuff about it like what. You're hearing about crypto. it's not secure. They start trying to say. It should be regulated. Well motherfucker. why aren't the banks regulated. So just so. We're clear j. P. morgan and associate banks may five billion dollars off of overdraft fees during the pandemic during one of the worst fucking times in american history. They charge americans five billion dollars of. That's ernie well money. And they're taking any that people didn't have bossier. But what banks ma the fuck outta to here right and just over clear in two thousand eight. We bailed out j. p. morgan. The taxpayers bailed out j. p. morgan back in two thousand eight. I remember that shit. The yeah give me a regular regular average joe now. So that's what i'm saying like dude. Why people of course they're gonna hate on crypto. of course they're gonna make crypto. Look back that's the idea when you're trying to challenge hung. I've billion dollars. What hung you remember. When that those when they were just handing out cash during that bail out there wasn't there was a there is a number going around. That said you know what all the money that the government gave out they coulda gave every. Us citizen what was one hundred k. Or something it was like one hundred and twenty five k. Cash it was no buddy leading. It been there. You go like dude. And that's where it's like bro. But the banks are too big to fail. Well you know what if we had crypto. We need you. Need banks Up that's where. I'm trying to say like all the stuff that you're hearing and reading and stuff like that like i'm not trying to be as conspiracy theorist but it makes sense that like in the grand scheme of things like the drops bank of america is going to hate us. Amen i'll pitch him my hd idea like hey hey can't steal your age as fool and they can only a i. China to our boy eighty. Who's not here right now. Just finished my White claw heart seltzer mango flavor. Ooh that sounds delicious. That's like it was a morning. did you put your moines them on the fucker. That's pretty good. Good topic funds. Oh really good topic man. I always can't 'cause you know i. Sometimes i play parlays and one of the websites that i use will often offer you like bonus money if you make your deposit encrypted so it's an extra step but you do get extra money to play with. But sometimes i just think like you know what right. Now i'm depositing fifty bucks seventy five bucks. A hundred bucks in crypto but ten years from now that hundred bucks in crypto could be something else could be handler you know. Here's like those motherfuckers at invest an at and t. back in the ninth like late eighteen hundreds cheese. Here's the concern. I have with certain like right. Now do if you're trying to do certain things to keep to like for long-term like you're gonna wanna take little minor beck's right but then you also want to take good bets like good beds. Meaning it's like buying nike reebok. Adidas type of deal right like go with the name brands for stability. But shoot your shot with some of the like you know the guy. What's what's death steph. Curry shoe shit. I don't know man. I ha- man Steph curry went went with something else right under armor. Oh yeah so like. Here's the thing if i'm going to put money into crypto. I'm gonna put some into the nike adidas crypto. Right so for civility. Then i'm gonna put the other half into something like an under armour who's going to be up incoming right if all me like. That's the way you wanna try to like balance your your your your portfolio because right now like dude. You don't wanna get scammed either like dude. There's like hell of scams out there right now. I feel like that that that leads to a lot of the negative. Press about crypto that. Can that can derail this. This this movement y- and back to like but i'll saying the movement is essentially making banks obsolete up like if i don't need a bank to pay for for my pg and i started shooting pge crypto from my wallet directly. Bank of america's gonna hate me fucking. Bhutto's thank you. Thank you all right over my back home. Always always ripe frank which you got for us today. Homey frank Franken playing with his butthole. He will be back in ten minutes. Various in all right saw man. That's that's crank charlie. Settle down in an hour. All right so i got a couple of topics in our seen a before. I usually don't like to get too controversial but these are just things that i've been reading over the last few weeks. That may be like me. Be like oh man. This is something i don't like to talk about with my friends. I really wish. Eddie was here so we can get his opinion on a lot of this stuff. But it's just stuff that i've been reading said And i'm going to start by reading by talking about what i've been reading about china so i'm not sure if you has been been peanut tension to what's been going on in china as far as like a their people and what's going on in their society but since the summer they've been making some crazy ass changes making some crazy changes to what people are allowed to listen to what people are allowed to watch what people are allowed to do in public and even do with your free time. And if you're not aware of what i'm talking about. I'm talking about how one of the one of the things that stood out. Because i'm a big gamer. I mean since we started the podcast. I really haven't been gaming as much as i used to. Be a really big gamer. You know at one of the rules was passing china. Was anyone eighteen years. A younger is only allowed to play three hours of video games on friday saturday and sunday. That's it online. And i visit online. I thought they because that's wanted. You know every time yuan every time you log on you're supposed to log in with your your government issued. Id so one way around it with people were saying. They could logging with their mom. And dad's ide- it's chinaman they know but they no matter what regardless of whether or not they're following these rules this is what's being done over their kids. Eighteen and younger can only play for three hours. Friday saturday and sunday before this they were used to only be able to play five hours so they got two hours. Taken away you five. Our some kids not that shit out before school on a monday morning. No frank i they know. And i i can i can. I can swear by the fact that they know they know everything. So when you're done with this we come back to how they spied on me. When i went to the casino in macau they know they know everything. Yes so for all the listeners out there that don't know hung used to work for a pretty high level security company and he was contracted to go overseas and work at a casino. Brealey prestigious casino in macau multiple. Don't know how you smuggle job but yeah man. Why don't you tell us right now to tell us. Tell us if you walked into when you clock. Dan and the guy was changing his draws in the control room you saw on chinese bush security question. Okay we're gonna talk experiences. How much did you have to pay for. That cost me twenty five. Chinese people had an orange kicking in chow main. So that's learned alright. They should they sent me over to a casino with eighteen thousand cameras. We know this because we sold them. Eighteen thousand cameras. They also had five hundred to six hundred network servers recording all those cameras all the time. All those cameras had to be recorded for thirty days straight so we held thirty days video. Gay so my ass gets there. And i'm not afraid of myth because i no longer work for that company so i don't care but the smoke weed when i travel and i would sneak in with me so day one get into the scene. Even say bro dune. Even saying they want right now. They're going to go now. I don't work for them. No more of them. And i'm not. I'm never going back to china. That's for sure. Like i'm never going all right so with that i do. It was a twenty twenty two hour. Why travel plan. It was a nightmare. Travel day for me. So as soon as i get there i walk in. I go to the casino. I work a little and then i come back to my room the minute i go to my room. I smoke one. Because i'm just gnaws nauseated from all stuff. Whatever right and i smoked one dude. I like i. I put like a towel. I put it under the you know. I'm i'm smoking in the bathroom. And whatever dude. And like. I like doing even right afterwards. I like sprayed all kinds of frigging you know for breeze well do low behold like i would say thirty minutes after i sparked that i get a knock on the door bro. It's macau police right way. Like my stomach dropped into my dude. It was like my balls. My stomach just dropped. It was gone like worley. Everything got flushed. Everything and i mean it was probably like two joints had left over right. But i've flushed everything i swear i can smell it because i had already been super careful right. So i've fucking let these fools in. They've they they checked my passport. They check my luggage. They walk around like my room and they never tell me more. They never tell me what they're looking for for a they didn't say anything or they were like. They were like where can step aside. That was by. And honestly do i just i. I've watched enough like a locked up abroad. I like just. I froze but all i know is the only possible thing that i did wrong or could have done wrong. Was the week right so so i don't know like do there was no. I just got to macau bro. So how bad is weed out there. Like how much trouble could you have gotten for like one prison. Craze would've got locked up presidential. Yeah it's it's straight did. I don't know if you remember the story but do those like by five ten five six years ago. A jackie chan son like got caught in hong kong with like half announce a wheat and they were trying to put him away for life. Damn dude like. I mean they dude i and you know i did. I like again. That's my fault by broke. I mean sorry to cut you offering. But that's what i'm trying to tell you bro. China knows okay so like it's not conspiracy bro so back to what you're you're you're saying about the control and the social mechanism that they're trying to put on their people so frank. I just question on that. why are they doing. It's a point of limiting limiting their access like that. So what they're doing is they're they're pretty much like overhauling. The whole society seems like it. Sounds like it seems like they don't like the way. The current generation is is coming up. They think that they're not that the the males are not masculine enough. They think that arabian behind that is because they're playing video games. There's too much like pop there. Little pop music The people that they're being influenced by on social media and on tv and in music are are mailed but they're too feminine so they're asking all the major tv stations and all the major. Because you know. They don't have twitter but they have their own version of twitter and other social media sites. So they're asking the in charge of of those networks to take off all this type of of of media of coverage of these popstars of these movie stars that live these glamorous lifestyles that emphasize money and living fast and being. I don't know what they you know what i mean like being. I guess i don't know have on whenever who cares what it is what it is. They do what they wanna do but they feel that they have too much influence over their society. So they're cutting them off so they're even going as far as taking certain people off of the internet completely. So imagine you go on google on your at some. I'm talking affonso. Like what the name of that dude that was on season for alternate fighter and now he's an all the movies and we look it up and you can't find shit because they erased him off the internet. That's what they're that's what they've been doing. And there's a handful of very prominent actors and actresses and movie stars. That have already been taken off your. You're kind of like making a little too light of the situation bro. Like i think that guy's obscure i feel like imagine if you went online and looked for tom cruise and that fool was missing from the internet. I they're taking piano like that like a you. They're taking some hirose. Well first of all that fool should be missing from i. I probably shouldn't the like everybody likes the rock right but eh but but china's says you know the rock is too powerful and to idolize so we're gonna take scrub the internet of the rock. I dunno scarlett johansson and everybody else that looks you know idolized like i think that's where i think that's where the danger comes broke. You're gonna take just censorship to the max. The jets where like frank that the level that that of of how they're doing this is so grab it's it's rootless like bro. Taking out like a person of that magnitude here in america. They would like you know. They'll have a full-on revolt all right. So then And they've already started doing. This is something that they wanna do. Now they've been doing this. They've been doing this since late summer. I want to say and my sources. So i did a little digging around because you know there's a lot of bullshit out there but i i got my my major sources from this off of readers in npr. So i feel pretty confident. That what i found is is actually true and let me update you guys on the video game thing. I have written down here. That's eighteen and under can only veto gains for three hours a week apply to any devices and only allowed to play eight. Pm to nine pm. Friday saturday sunday and one hour at the same time on public holidays man. Yeah so you're basically you're only able to play one hour at a time bro. That's control yes. That's that's just that's just the spring chicken sound. Check this out. This is what i found about. The broadcast broadcasts must resolutely put an end to seaman and other abnormal aesthetics. Yeah i read this regularly. China bro network advise you avoid promoting vulgar internet celebrities avoid celebrities that have lost morality encouraged to promote excellent chinese traditional culture revolutionary culture and advance socialist culture room game developers required to submit new titles for government approval before being released. So before you even go to you or whoever the hell is in charge of putting video games out there you gotta go through the government. I so you can't put out your Boo cocky jujitsu syringe video game alphonso through approval of north. How dare i ask. How dare you taunus in jitsu in that manner. Why equality jitsu is legitimate and honorable tradition after unseen. That's here guy back. That's an unseen. Even china is trying to out regulate you even though you are the man fuck china. I'm telling motherfuckers that since one thousand nine hundred ninety don't nobody listen follow them. That got does so then like all the stuff or go ahead funds. Oh we're going to go ahead. I was just continue. I was just all i was gonna say was so then that got me thinking about like what like well man. China's extreme broke too much. You know what. I mean Just yesterday i was at the grocery store and some dude started talking shit to me because i was wearing a mask in the store. Needs like you're afraid people are afraid to go. Do get the fuck out of the way. Just wanna get some aides. I and then he starts saying stuff and i do. Just get out of here. And then dude. I ended up running into him. When i'm paying and then he's like you're afraid and go full. You're afraid of getting a job. Get adequate about what other people are doing. Get the fuck out of here. And then he said something. Else i go. I don't even know you. Why do i even give a shit. About what your i honestly do. I don't care. Because i'm gonna go home and whatever so then that. Got me to thinking of some people are thinking that our freedoms are being taken away over. Here you know my place employment here. We're being required to be vaccinated now. I've been vaccinated since the gig. Oh i got no qualms about it. But i also do think that everybody has the right to do whatever the fuck they want. You don't wanna wear mess don't you don't want to get vaccinated. Don't but if is requiring it. That's a different story. That's completely different. You know what i mean. That's like it's my house. This is my house full and affonso thinks he can come in here and where on america soccer jersey. he's fucking triple. never first of all vernon savant would journo. You wouldn't you know that's why we're rose fucking a one time thing but that's so this but this is different though you know what i mean so i started thinking about like what. What would we have over here like. How was the howard things different now. And then this got me thinking too and this is way back you know. I don't even know how long ago this was. But you guys remember when nicki minaj tweeted that her putting most best friend got. He's his fiancee. Left him before he was about to get married and he already put the deposit down on the yeah. I'm i don't even know what they eat out there for you right Parents out dude got first of all. It's nikki massage. Just like that crazy guy. That was talking shit to me in the grocery store. Why do we give two shits about what she seen if she's not talking about music. Why are we listening to her. It opens and kirk. Her country ended up spending resources to investigate this matter. That was i could've told you off the gig all that bullshit apple has an s. Td her verified that this did not happen and they could've used all that time all that money to go give people shots give people food. I don't give a shit fucking feed the ducks. Whatever they wanted but it would have been way better spent then going to go look for that goulette. Who's got some kind of civilised from some ski easy that he hooked up with whatever with fall. I'm sorry bro. Wrap it up. You know what. That's just hilarious. Mchugh imagine that like you got fucking massive as cd in the you. Just tell you what a you know what i got i got back seen trucks. Oh why didn't this guy shaggy and say wasn't me right and then it from moniz. That's why she was trying to go him. Whoa wait a perfect segue. Do how about which ones comfort and with the truth and the the medical in charge of the whole country tweeted back to nikki with nikki. Manashian was like. I'm sorry nicky. But this is false. You might wanna blah blah blah. She responded with you. Know what. I'm not going to get the vaccine. I'm gonna do my own research and then that made me think of like the other day. Jeff van gundy was like so and so said that they're going to do their own research and when i did that i think of then like in a lab in the middle of the night in a basement hiding data. That dude nikki minority that they're not doing shit. Shut the fuck up. There's already people that. Did it wake smarter than you so to them but do people too much power man. These people like. There's there's i'm not saying. We need to be china. 'cause nobody should be like china especially china but maybe we got too much freedom over here. You know what. I mean a while back. Go for it hunter you do. Who's fault is that though. Frank are what. I hate to say this. But why fucking blame nicki minaj. When you're the idiot that believed nikki monagas. Oh exactly ex- believe he gives the power ourselves. Yeah yeah i mean i. What says that they influenced too many people. And there's too many people out there that for some reason. I don't know they can't make a decision on their own. They feel that they need to be a part of something. And then the jump on it. You know what. I mean like you guys know one of my favorite and your favorite people on this whole planet. Who got us into this podcast. Business are boy. Joe rogan are blow. Joe rogan kat. Covert back in. When did he catch you in in august. Yeah there's a couple like a couple of months ago. It was like july august. He caught it and then after he caught it. I think i have his tweet here. It said joe tested positive for delta and took the popular horse medication ivermectin sometimes prescribed for headlines or skin conditions. Animal use much concentrated People kept reading. Joe rogan also took monocoque. Yo antibodies pack antibodies vitamin. Do joe got the best of the best. And i'm gonna i'm gonna sidestep here away from covert and hung. I'm over go back to way back. I don't know if you remember when your brother in law was talking to us in your living room about his deviated sentenced surgery. Yeah i'm gonna. I'm gonna i'm gonna do an impersonation in your brother-in-law let take a sip of my man that joe rogan's full of shit fucking liar fucking something surgeries you. Fucking know still hurts two months later. I'm not sure that dude. I'm pretty sure that jodi go to kaiser off probably went to one of the best doctors on this side of the hemisphere. Is that where you went. Did you go through the same. i know it. I'm sure his doctor earn. Sees all the way through med school. Yes probably didn't go to honda's soup to be fair. I think. Joe rogan's kind of a hypocrite to take like eighteen things when he got kobe after saying over and over. If you're healthy individual you should be able to find it okay. I mean like he got scared out of his mind. So let's be clear. Been like for real. You know what that hung. That is an excellent point. Nobody has called on that shit because he was telling people. Yeah you're young you're healthy. Don't do it there. you're good yes and push ups. You'll be all right what's been going on. People think this thing is fake. People don't wanna get vaccine either. I don't wanna wear math. And they get sick and then go run into the hospitals and then that's but you know but luckily hospitals are there to help out. So this is where. Joe rogan has just gone off the deep in for me man like and especially a guy who like used to love listening to him. Talk about aliens shit to say he's got off. The deep in is is very fantastic but like bro. Wake i you're right frank. I think the bad influence is is. You know your your influence a bunch of people that don't know better and i think that's that's that's awful to society that's dangerous that's like so so so let me get this straight. What you're trying to say right. Now is joe rogan and nikki. Moniz just did something very irresponsible and harmful to society right just because of their own oozing joel comments and and we all read comics here bro. Let's be clear. I feel like with great Great strength or whatever comes with great power comes great responsibility right like spiderman. Right so bro. Like joe rogan's harming a ton of people not everyone can get those eighteen things. He took bro like yeah. I mean dude. They could probably a horse you but if the other five things that might have work. So that's the canoe. When joe rogan says he's taking ivermectin. He's not telling you he's gone to approve medical doctor who he research. Who who's who's went to a good metal go. You can go to any doctor. And i went to dr. He's an md or he's a whatever but do you know what school he went to juno or you know what i mean. Do you know how good that school is at producing doctors. I mean or did he just go to some fucking medical school in the caribbean because he couldn't get to stanford or harvard. Medical school were ucla. You know what i mean. There's your shit doctors in this world. That doesn't mean that they're real. Or i mean i'm sorry not real but credit i guess you don't mean that they're legit in accredited ones are wrong. I mean we can't i mean. Sometimes they aren't remember. Remember why you went to like three dollars for that thing. He had to go to edgar. Who went to harbor. I mean come on the adequate looked at my balls. Yeah and you know. You're you're like four. Why are looking at all interim. I was asking you my elbow fool and take my pants off for my nanjing. Procedure tended procedure. Will you didn't go to harvard. Medical school all right. Thank you. I don't know like i at the end of the day. I know i'm not an expert at anything else than whacking. Let's guy that's referred to the way rogin. Says he's taking ivermectin and all this other shit he's not saying yeah went to tractor supply and i picked up Ivermectin for arabian radian horses. And i just gave myself a couple spoonfuls of that sheet in a fucking syringe. And i'm good. Oh really bob iowa listening the fucking joe. Rogan is like odds school. I'm gonna go down attracts supply. And that's the problem being joe rogan right. I mean leave it. Because you know what i read i read. I started doing some research on this. And i found that a lot of people were actually doing that. That people were going out to feet stores. And we're purchasing ivermectin. And then they were getting sick and i recently heard from someone that said you know what the numbers were faked. Because i heard crazy ass numbers. I heard that In mississippi alone from july to august the number of ivermectin exposures went up two hundred and forty five percent in the state of mississippi. Seventy percent of all calls to the poison control center. Were either make them. Related cases and seventy five percent of those cases were for people who had taken ivermectin that they had purchased a feed store. Damn so and people were. i mean. I've said this before. And i'm gonna say it again in this country you're allowed to be as dumb as can be. Yeah blame somebody else right. I mean what freedom bro. I mean that's on you man. I think number but you did that. So you gotta fix it yourself like. Don't go blame anybody else. Won't i think the thing that pisses me off is when you do that and then you go run to science to help you when things go back stay the fuck home and now are starting to be addicted broke. What like dude. No chance state of oklahoma die. Don't don't fucking come over here and ask for help from a real walker when you chose not to listen affonso stop burning the beans. Full the fire going on. Who the fuck burning christina. Turn turn the turn this own. They're supposed jim hardcastle here forties with friends. I said hey. total side. no. I wanna quit bitching. What a fucking fight last night. My friends did you guys see deontay wilder and tyson fury three. Do you a favor and go get that moot. Go watch it any way that you can because you need to watch. That thing was violence at. Its finest my friend. That's all i'm gonna say man deontay waller might wanna go get a new cornerman kazaa guy not looking out for your best interest. My friend did it give him. Victor miss vector symon. He said you know if he would gave him. I've been. I would have been like actually looking out for his best interest Damn that's fucked up man. I can't believe his did that. Great fight man greg fi and We got nogi worlds going on right now. So check that out everybody Bonzo hung anything else. You guys want to add for this man. This is a cool episode. i got a lotta bitchy. Now been meaning to get that stuff out. Phil's good thanks man. I always say at least were not china. Right at least would not china. Well just he. Playing video games june. It's going to be three hours. Yeah good luck and you won't be able to get on you porn. Because they'll have that to do. That's why they got other wants got sleazy as fuck. We wanted to retype type into google fool. You just gotta go to gloom type in booby thirty three billion pages and you get and you'll get these. You're now looking at the right cosmopolitan. magazine's victoria's secret catalogue. 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Episode #2118 The New Phil Hendrie Show

The World of Phil Hendrie

30:10 min | 2 months ago

Episode #2118 The New Phil Hendrie Show

"Another day another unknown could bring your biggest order yet or a new cyberthreat. Whatever happens comcast business will keep you ready with the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses comcastbusiness powering possibilities restrictions apply. Actual speeds vary another day. Another unknown it could bring your biggest order yet or a new cyberthreat. Whatever happens comcast business will keep you ready with the network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses comcastbusiness powering possibilities restrictions apply actual speeds vary. I'm laying delton. And i make orchestra sounds with my mouth. In other words. I sing the orchestra parts as opposed to hiring an orchestra. It's cost effective. And i think. I do very very well and i'd like to intro. Today's phil hendrie show here from under the flight path of the fort. Lauderdale international airport to you that That done. It's the fool. Henry show from fort lauderdale. If it was chippendale. I'd be just as proud but it's the phil hendrie show from fort lauderdale all hail phil hendrie show than none. None none none. Thanks so much laying delton. And this is bobby dooley and truth. Be told steve a pretty weird. It is a little bit weird. It's a little bit weird to hear you laying would talk about my singing orchestra parts. It is it's cookie it's spooky. it's real it's real yukihoki. It really is. But maybe i could put it better in a different way. Maybe if i sang how i feel about you know. Please don't know don't tell me why. Please don't just hold on for a minute. This is part of the show. Oh maybe if. I sang how felt about you laying in the cool of the evening when everything is getting kind of groovy the orchestra part what. Excuse me for ladies and gentlemen. I didn't touch him. That's creepy. Let me start again in the cool of the evening when everything is getting kind of groovy. I call up link delton. 'cause i need some music for my movie. I'm bobby tilly. And i need some songs. And what do you think he comes undone. Hits on a bong. And he is really spooky laying delton israeli. Really kind of cookie spooky today right. Thanks bobby so when we talk about laying delton coming in here. We don't need you to my wife does needed. Your wife doesn't need what. Excuse me for one moment. would you say. I was only kind of our hit. You actually know. Here's a card from miss. Myrna deploy and myrna lives in new myrna beach about that melanie's new sport new smyrna new sparta. New smyrna malloy in new smyrna. New smyrna beach. Oh and she writes. How much mileage are you going to get out of fake kicking guys in the balls. Love you smyrna as much as it takes murder as much as it takes my husband Steve julius hare almost. Forget your name steve. What we the first time. What did you say nothing. Nothing my husband's steve dooley's here. I wanna thank laying delton for attempting to do mouth orchestra for the show not going to happen because i can sing it as well as bring it. If you know what i'm talking about the loveliness of paris seems somehow sadly gay. Sorry the glory that was rome is of another day. I've been terribly alone and forgotten in manhattan. I'm going home to my city on biscayne pay. I left it in me. me ab- i swear to god. Steve absorbed i left it. Okay in me Me above a cool clear. Beautiful day. And i see all the people plus all the sheep bowl curling along south beach way. They drink a lot there in miami their life. Yeah i guess they too. But i gotta make head way i gotta get back to the bay. Not the bay here. But sf bay. Yeah at sucked. I don't care you can fake tipping balls. This is bobby dooley and this is our last. I didn't kick you in the balls. Did i know come on land. She didn't know she didn't. This is bobby dooley. And this is stephen. Me's last or stephen my me and buying steve. This is by in steve. This is stephen me. This is stephen. Me's no it isn't no. You may not it. This is my show not yours all right. This is bobby dooley. And this is i. In steve's that's it this is steve's last what are you shaking your head for. I'm sorry this is. Stephen is the steve. That's it this is stephen. Is last day here. In miami in the south florida environs in broward and other of the south lord environments. We are also in fort lauderdale and i was listening to mr henry. Today we were driving around. I don't know what we were doing today but For breakfast place. We were looking for a place. And mr henry said that he'd read the memoirs of william tecumseh sherman. If you don't know who. I don't know who has that union. May i go ahead lang. The union general. A very famous union general. What do you mean in union general. Civil war did i ask you know. He was a famous civil war. General who according to. Mr henry was stationed at one point in his career. Here in south. Florida at fort lauderdale. There was a fort. You know what are you talking about. There was a ford here. Because it's unaccounted. it's called fort lauderdale. Yeah and jackie theorized that what. What do you mean theorized. He doesn't know what that means. Jackie was saying it was her theory. Oh that for the actual fort that is fort. Lauderdale was located on one of the rivers that comes into fort lauderdale. I don't know if there's a river here but she she thought it was where the jail is. We're the new jail. Is you know. Steve if you look at me one more time with the what. I'm going to punch you for real all mike. Golic go christ somewhere else. This is the beauty show filling in fulfill henry here on the very last night The last day the last morning the last afternoon that we're here in south florida here siren going somewhere in the area. There's always a siren happening here in south florida. And when i say siren. I don't mean ulysses sirens call the siren. The oh the haunting echoing call of the female sirens though i mean an actual ambulance or a police siren too but anyway there was a ford here. And that's what mr henry was talking about today. I'm laying delton. You're listening to the. Bobbie dooley show filling in for phil. Hendrie here in fort lauderdale. Dun dun dun turn it on. Turn bobby yeah we love you. Yeah we lack the things. You do for phil. Yeah hey bobby yes we like you. Y- you waving co bobby we're live. I know we're live. And i know i'm stopping language. Appreciate that but when you keep going yeah someone is bound to make it psycho sexual you know. That's a good point. Oh sorry about that bobby. You think that was your idea. I was over here waving you off margaret. i don't want any peace of you. On the sears. Show do you understand yes. You are not waving the off. I already knew when. I heard land going. Yeah look the reason. Why i was doing was was was an oma to the nineteen sixties middle of the road kinds of jazz slash pop songs. One but here on the radio. I don't care. I didn't like it. You understand yeah she. Bobby i think he meant well and you have to get my back not the other way around. Oh you think because when you get my back your tournament around you own. Oh whole who can actually hit. You know you people get away with this. You did it to you. did it to lang. I did it. Because i figured it keeping here on the show. You want me to kick in the balls for real. No i didn't think so. Ladies and gentlemen it is always a pleasure to come into your homes to be invited into your home. And when i say that. And i want to be heard out here. I don't want people butting in. When i say it's an honor to be invited into your home. I mean it really is. You're opening the door and allowing me to come into your house into your home. Now what are you do. You have everything cleaned up and ready for me to see. Of course you don't no one ever would so when i am allowed into your home i see what you're doing and it might be something as benign and simple what was but i mean steve. Shut your filthy whole. Oh my god. When i see you doing something as simple and benign for instances sitting and looking at me as i walk into your home you may be sitting and looking at me and that would be expected you'd be saying. Oh my god. Bobby dooley has come into my home. And she's Gonna do the show and everything or may be walking into your home and you might be brushing your teeth. You might have the brushing your mouth and you might have your mouth open. You might be going a you know. I'm sorry i'm sorry. I'm sorry you might be going. I tell you. Identify in which case i would say. Of course you know. You can't be aware that. I'm gonna be here at every second. You're brushing your teeth. I understand or you might be on the toilet. I'm not asking your opinion margaret. You might be sitting on the toilet. And and i'm not saying this for salacious or exploitive reasons or to be a kinky stupid sounding. I'm saying this for real you could be in mid wipe though. I know a lot of the guys getting a kick out of me saying that. A lot of the men and this is very male humor that i'm engaging in studying humor. What i'm saying is never mind. What might wait here. i'll do it. What my wife's trying to see if your mid wipe when bobby comes into your house in your mid wipe just stay with the toilet paper up there. Don't try to go. Oh i was in mid wipe and remove it and flush it right here. I'll do it. Steve's right if you're in mid wipe just sit there staring at me with the hand back there and keep it there and say oh. Hi bobby you may be sleeping. You may be sleepwalking. You may be god help. You and god helped me for bringing this up you might be having a private masturbating or you may be with your husband or your wife in as a similar an intimate moment so the reason why i say all of this is when you bring me into your home when you actually say yeah sure come on in you know you are opening yourself up to some real A scrutiny you. Steve young joe what's with you. I don't know he's a little bit lost for words. I think my husband can speak for himself laying husband. And i don't need you playing it back to go. Can i touch you know yes market. What do you want. it's getting old okay. The whole fake hitting thing. We did kiss old. Okay i'll check with you margaret because when it comes to old you're the expert you dirty slut. Did you hear that state. Call my wife. That i did get out of here. Get out of here right now. This is my show. Mr henry told me call me. The slut i did. This isn't over. wu margaret. Get out of here. Lou is great. Get out this is not over margaret. When i'm really scared get out. Get out okay. I had to slap across the face really. Who asked you well. Who asked you know on. This is the bobby daily. Show filling in for phil hendrie here on the world famous. Fill henry show on the world famous. Fill henry show dot com at the phil hendrie show dot com website of the world. Famous phil hendrie show lang. Take it away. You were the sunshine baby whenever you smiled. But i call you bobby today. Dune did he. Did he do all of a sudden. That rain's falling down. I'm only kidding. When you enter my life things are gay. And i don't mean queer gay. Hey be. Yeah ole bobby. Yeah keep making it a son day. Thanks so much laying. Wasn't that a sweet sentiment. That you you done sat about me. might miss. Bobbie dooley people wonder where i'm from. And my husband's steve. Many times will say when he's angry at me he'll step back. Put a hand on the wall or just put his hand on his hip and sort of slouched to one side and say. Where are you coming from body. Or where have you been. And i'll say steve. That's a good question we're in coming from is el toro california. That's where i was born. I was born near the el toro. Marine air station even though my father was in the army and got lost so it was there that are family began to make our way in life. My father eventually moved to seal beach where he went to work doing this. And that odds and ends and things like that. My father worked for brief times the private investigator and did other things that i can't really mention but made a very beautiful home for myself. My mother and that was just myself and my mother. My my my wife my take it easy steve. Because my wife's an only child pretty nervous about taking the fake bullshit. What happens folks. I take a fake ball shot. I make like i'm gonna punch steve and he'll go. Ooh and i'll say that i hit you go. No so everything you hear is coming from the dirty filthy mind of a man anticipating that he got one. I mean took one royal right off the old scr italia. Ain't that right steve. I would i pull the punch did so. This is the life of me bobby duly. We've told the story many times you're an only child. Okay sorry yes. I wasn't only child. I had a sister. But i never noticed that she was there But you but you were an only child. Obviously i had a sister. So no. I wasn't but i mean anyway so i miss steve. Our senior year at seal beach high. He was stealing dr von and selling fake. Id's and main lining the bustle relaxed. Dr von and i remember thinking you know he's rough around the edges. he's a little crude a little lewd. He's has a little bit of an odor coming off of truth. Veto rights deep. But i think. I think he's a keeper from that point stephen. I enrolled at the university of southern. California steve's family had money and so did mine even though steve's father died at stillwater prison some four years ago in stillwater minnesota His family did very well as did mine. But we dropped out of usc after are going to say freshman year. But we actually dropped out. After about five weeks we dropped out and then began our sojourn as a married couple We wound up having dylan three years. Later seth six years later and then justin nine years later. And so dillard seth and justin or maybe was just in second l. I forget which they were born in those became didn't become they were are three boys and we're very very glad that they are. They're rough around the edges. They get after it. They're kind of they're rough boys. There are a lot of fun. But they're very sweet boys and we hope that you can meet them someday when you come visit. Western states homeowners association and. Here's my husband's steve bobby. I wanted to bring on here A guy that i admire. He has the same first name as me. Knows a lot about sports and Somebody who has been on a lot of the phil. Henry shows named steve brazil value and take it away. What do you mean. Take it away. Well well. I wanted to do a little bit of a sports report here from miami. Thank you very much. Steve duly Want to tell you that. The miami marlins last place and the last place in the eastern division. They had a ball game tonight. I watched a little bit of it. They in for nothing after two innings. But i got so bored watching a game i i turned it off. Look like there was anybody in the stands now. My understanding is. I looked and sounded sports. Page at the miami marlins are accepting one hundred percent capacity. meaning they will if they could They they would if they could if they if they did if they would you know what if they could if they could have a sell out they would. They would have a sell out if they could. But they are not selling anything out and They really stink And not only that. But we've only had four hundred thousand people come through the turnstiles this season now by comparison that second to the last in the major league baseball by comparison rackham from in los angeles area. As do the dudley's aunt named duly. God almighty sorry. Sorry as do the dooley's That the la dodgers so far have drawn one point nine million for the season and that's because a lot of reasons. Baseball is very You know been around los angeles around sixty years now or whatever sixty three years and people you know the dodgers are good people act the dodgers And so the dodgers are always leading the league in an attendance. Come here to to miami. It may be that they don't really like baseball here. And what about the wait. A minute duly. i'm talking. i know i'm talking. It may be the fact that they don't like baseball. Miami could be as dumpster duly. You're going to say that they're rotten. Okay i know they're miami. Marlins are rotten team but even as rotten as they are. The dodgers could be second from last place and get a lot more than half. You know half one half of a person or not that but four hundred thousand four hundred thousand people so that's something that and they have a stadium brand new stadium people. Tell me it's beautiful. Have been there very well. Mr is not here. But i was gonna ask him if he's ever been been to. The miami marlins stadium. They used to be called the florida. Marlins that might have people confused. People might think it's drawn. Parker som i. You'd have to pretty stupid. You'd have to be so stupid that you need to be killed if you thought the florida marlins. In other words people are looking for the florida. Marlins game and they can't find well. I mean it's possible you know. Let me just jump in steve. How're you for goodness. I'm sorry i told you. Must dudley like you. don't let me ask you something. I'm overhearing a little bit of this steve. Do you want to go to the baseball. We're we're leaving tomorrow right. I don't wanna. I don't please. Don't make me. Steve likes to go to baseball games. But mostly dodger dodger game. Do you know about the dodger. Come from gone okay. Well he likes to see them. Now tell me what's going on with the marlins. Well the theory is that a lot of people. Don't go to the marlin games. Because they they don't know that there's a team called the miami marlins they're looking for the florida marlins. That's the dumbest thing i ever did. Hear ups start asking you anymore. He was talking you steve. Now this steve is talking. I mean it sounds like a stupid reason. Like oh. I didn't know that they changed their name. The miami marlins so they may see the sign on the stadium. Same tonight miami. Marlins baseball league team i'm looking for. I'm looking for the florida. Marlins but i've seen stupid. It does seem a little dimwitted and an empty headed. So what else is keeping them away from the ballpark. Well in teams bad. They're last place. But as i was saying to the audience there's plenty of last place teams. Draw more than miami That the that the miami marlin or the marlins now what they call the marlin like a lot of teams are called the the utah jazz. For instance or the chicago fire. The the major sports generally have teams that are plural I like the even the national hockey league which has got some of the newer teams. The miami heat. So how come. They're not called the marlin like the heat. That's the dumbest thing bobby here. It comes on. How how i'll i'll i'll i didn't touch or it's right What what would you in. Because i felt like maybe took tried to flick my my bag. My bag your bag. Go ahead okay. So the marlin. I mean the marlins probably don't draw because this is just not a great baseball city and there's a reason for that the summer months in florida as you've seen is duly as you've seen mister dooley. Have you seen lang lang. We kicked him out of here. We told to get lost. Well laying wherever. Vr's you've seen They rain they they rain. It rains it rains. And there's a lot of storm conditions especially at night with ballgame is about to take you know take place so It's difficult to go to the ballpark. Now they do have a dome stadium here in miami. It's a very nice dome. It rolls back and you can see the beautiful sky and the sunshine. And i don't know maybe they i don't know so in other words it's just a bad baseball market. It's a bad baseball market. But it may because they don't maybe they don't understand baseball. That's the dumbest thing which you keep your mouth shut up try to of this is the right hand and i can stop it a half inch shy of the bag bullshit. Yeah and you can touch it. It's scary bobby. That is kind scary. Him duly the way you're able to do that. Said just be careful so miami not being a good baseball market. What do you think the prognosis is and what that means. What do you expect will happen to the miami marlins. Well i mean. I don't think the miami marlins are going to be able to last in this market much longer. If they continually draw bad. You know it's some point you have to recognize. You're not really in a baseball market now. They had a miami baseball team here in the minor leagues. They had a miami baseball stadium. That mr henry remembers because he was down here. We're at a radio station. Yeah mr as a w. s. h. e. fort lauderdale miami too right. Yeah my understanding. Yeah he was down here back in the late. Seventy s mr hilton minister helen. Elry stir hendry. Mr injury told me that he eh. bob seger t-shirt shirt said bob and the silver bullet band live at the miami baseball stadium. And he got that when he was the music director at dub s. h. e. in fort lauderdale so So they did have a baseball team here. They had a baseball team. And i think it might even have been called to marlin or the marlins. But i they reminder league. They're not majorly. What's the difference between a minor league team. I know that one is lower level right. Yeah well honey. I'm not asking you. Steve god it go ahead mister mister But you mr bozell. yeah The difference is basically that Players in minor league baseball are not as good. They are learning. they're developing. This is where players develop. There's get better and eventually when they do reach a certain level of proficiency there Promoted to the major league team. But you have to be a at a certain skill level to be a major league. Baseball player and minor league players are not considered to be at that consistently at that skill level. So if you're playing for a minor league team you're not as good as the guy what's playing for a major league team. I get technically. Yeah but you know there's so many great talented ballplayers but yeah you still need some seasoning or the big team when i say big team. Big club like the new york yankees Who have they've got myrlie teams that they draw talent from the minor league. The minor league teams have players that go to this certain major league teams. Yeah honey. I'm not talking to you right. Yeah yeah i mean may. Main men are major. You're getting confused. Remind never mind the last thing. I wanted to talk to some man whose fumbling filming at the mouth. No it's okay Bobby can explain. I don't care steve elaine. How are you great. You want me to close out the program we would link shelton's here close out the show and close out. Our two weeks shows here from south. Florida and leg. I think i'd like to hear saying. I wish you love goodbye. Let our hearts call it a day. But before i walk away. There's just one thing i'd like to say. I wish you bluebirds in the spring and hold on for minute. We didn't hit me. Did you know i didn't i didn't me. Go ahead wait. We one two three you. I wish you bluebirds in the spring lazy heart and another thing but most of all. That's not how it goes when you know what never mind lang get outta here. But i got paid. You'll get paid. Just get out. Steve get ready for it. Yeah you're not gonna hit me. I slept my own knee. Oh the will. Famous fill henry show is executive produced by phil hendrie for all rights reserved on podcast one c monday chump. Actually tonight is the it's the It's the ger good. God you right tonight is. The is the speech at another day another unknown. It could bring your biggest order yet or a new cyberthreat. Whatever happens comcast business will keep you ready with a network that can deliver gig speeds to the most businesses comcastbusiness powering possibilities get started with a great offer from comcast business and for a limited time. Ask how to get a six hundred and fifty dollars prepaid card with a qualifying bundle when you buy online call one eight hundred five zero one six thousand or go to comcastbusiness dot com to learn more prepaid card offer ends nine twenty one twenty one caller go online for details.

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Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 10/11/21--Weekend Recap

The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast

41:32 min | 2 weeks ago

Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast 10/11/21--Weekend Recap

"Thank maximum security has been defeated king for day. This is the jason beam horseracing. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires your daily home for horse racing news interviews wagering discussions and more. Here's your host jason. Be route of a good. Monday morning beyond. Welcome in to the jason beam horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. It is monday october. The eleventh than we kick off a new week of shows ready to recap be a busy weekend. Lots going on between keeneland belmont and keeneland talk a little belmont. I watched some santita not a ton. But little bit leery portions of the saturday card but Pretty pretty glued to the the two big tracks this weekend. I guess you could say of course Obviously everything that happened this weekend. Nothing nothing more impressive than what arnaldo boca chica and jeff ranko did at charlestown arnaldo one eight stakes races. That i that. I read that right I know he was favourite on many in ronco. Obviously atop barn there at the charlestown. Wow that is. That's like beyond that accomplishment. I don't care when you you know. When russell baze won her broke the record everybody would always say. Oh you did golden gate. Field like yeah. I mean they're certainly you. Can you can state that. It's it's certainly not as difficult of a circuit to break into as a southern cal or new york or kentucky or whatever but winning races is not easy man. It is not easy until win eight stakes races in a night. Unbelievable so congratulations to our although on What i'm sure is a memorable career night. I saw that. I think the previous record for wins by a jock with seven and it was travis dunkel burger. There's a name. What was the last time we heard of travis. Uncle burger looks like his last mounts. Were in twenty fifteen. So that probably explains why. We haven't heard much from middle east on the racing front. But hope everything's okay for travis out there. I wish racing had a little bit more. Like you know a good information source to like. Find out stuff like that. But i guess you know. People's there was a time where i thought about doing a. Where are they now. Kinda series of interviews where i wanted to interview people who were maybe at the forefront of the racing world or at least prominent in racing ten twenty years ago and and kind of stepped away from it or not involved in it anymore but i always felt like where are they. Now is such disrespectful kind of thing. 'cause some of them have probably gone on lake better and happier things and they're glad not to be involved other probably not happy that they're not involved in therefore i don't know it just seemed like it would be kind of i don't know it. Just where are they now. Seems like like they're not doing anything good with their life or something like that which is of course. Not the case but Anyway we should probably dive into what's coming up or what's Happened in this past weekend. You have good string of guests lined up for this week. Three guests already booked. We'll have a horse player thursday guests. We will who else we talking to. Let's go through the list. What the heck we are gonna have on the show. I haven't decided who's going to tuesday. Who's gonna wednesday. But we will figure it out. Nick luck is going to join the show this week. Very excited to welcome in. Nikki was at keeneland for the big weekend. We'll certainly talk that. We'll talk some breeders cup with him as he obviously covers for. Nbc sports and stuff over in the uk involving bbc sport and racing tv etc etc. So looking forward. Having nick on the show Door gato who is a executive with the breeders cup is gonna join us this week looking forward to speaking with her. She's the executive vice president. Chief racing officers. We'll talk some breeders cup stuff with dora. She's been there. I believe since i haven't started my prep. Yep doing that tonight. But i think she's been there since the beginning of the breeders cup so we'll talk with door delgado this week and then never horse player. Thursday dan. silver is going to join us on the show or player handicapper. I believe worked in racing little bit another one. Who i haven't done my prep for yet because that's not happening till not interview. Danielle wednesday for thursday. So i got time. I'm a little bit of a procrastinator on prep stuff. I'll never wait till the you know like an hour before or something like that. But i almost always do it the night before the interview. But i'll often tell myself okay. I'm gonna do it at like six or seven and we'll get it done and then i can relax restaurant but then i'll sit in dink around on youtube for three hours or four hours her. Watch a movie or something and the next thing you know. It's ten o'clock. But i seem to do my best Interview research from like nine. pm to eleven pm. So that's what i'll do all that. That's the plan. But let's let's start with some of the weekend actual start with the saturday keelan card Obviously the Turf mile one of the centerpieces. I mean just a picard. The fraternity we'll work our way From the start of the card. Because i thought it was worth mentioning the early pick five came back like i think it was eighty six thousand eighty seven thousand and that was for five and a five correct. You got another three hundred and thirty seven for your four out of five combos in the big. The big upset in the sequence was sport pepper who was twenty four to one and was one of those long shots where yes was twenty four to one in a seven horse field but everybody else in the race was like two one three two one seven two two five one five nine to one. So you're six or seven. Horses are between two to one nine one really five of the seven or between two hundred five to one so kind of that wide open. You know anybody can win it kind of race and then you have this one longshot. Who goes right to the front and never looked back and wins a twenty four to one and obviously a epic separator but as is the case with a lot of these huge payouts. you get. There's there was clearly an anchor single for a lot of people in keighley's brother who was three to two at final odds be kind of an upset in the first race blake b. Thought an easy horse to to not have. I actually thought the horse made a little sense hartman and mitch. Merle have been insanely good together in recent times. I know that's just jackie trainer mumbo jumbo but i just thought the horse fit and did end up winning but You know you had a fifteen one shot and munition who had one debut at ls coming from way off the pace. Well this horse they let go up on the lead and it was kind of funny because it looked turning for home like they were kind of stacking up to the outside and they were all going to swallow up munition and then they just never did like the horse just you he just kicked away and midstretch and next thing you knew he was a home in front at At sixteen no one. I mentioned the twenty four to one upset winner and to finish off the sequence. You had a nine to two winner in first time starter in strada for dallas stuart for winstar farm so eighty-seven whose dollars but as we say these big pick five more so pick five pick. Four is because obviously there's another leg and it's more difficult to hit all that kind of stuff but a lot of times. When we see these very large five figure payout pick fives. There's a really logical favourite in there somewhere As i often say a lot of times you need to get three legs of separation to really get a big payoff and in this leg. That's kind of what you got the first time starter at nine to two in the last leg though. It's a race filled with first-time starters. I know there was a little bit a hype. I think on the six switzer Who took a fair bit of action. Leslie chow got a great name to leslie chow. It's the guy from the hangover but you kind of a raise that to me screamed people going somewhat deepens even though you got to. I think a lot of people probably took a little bit of stand in that race or not. I'm sorry to spread in that race. I think a lot of people probably took a stand earlier with orchestration and maybe modus operandi in the the munition race. And i'm sure a lot of people took a stand in the keighley's brother and got through but again it seems like if you can get those three big legs separation man. Yes when you read start talking some some jumbo payoffs the stakes action started race number six. That was the woodford stakes and golden pal as as advertised one by Two and a quarter lengths at odds of one to two. I thought just for how races often shape up with first time. Start especially once it kind of go. Quick especially ones who were like you know women seeing this horse here in the states for a little while and it's coming off a defeat when final crow or fire crow final qualifier crow loomed up and actually took the lead for a second. I thought gold pao is not only not going to win but was done. And i thought extravagant kid was gonna kick out wide and possibly get it but no gone pow with Plenty left as they turned for home and kicked back away opened up and won pretty convincingly over extravagant kid who up for second country. Finally i had said on on optics looks like the six and seven were in potentially good shape to be big closers and contenders in this race and they got by everybody else. But golden powell was never looking back and scores rather impressively in the woodford stakes. The thoroughbred cov- america's stakes. I don't know that they come a whole lot cooler than bells. The one you know. I i always am a sucker for a smaller barn. Like neil pessene. Who gets a horse like this. Who just continually does great things and I mean she she you know she sets back in last. And you know that's just kinda what she does is she gets a little far back there. But she gobbles up ground so efficiently on the turn. It was it was really. This is gonna sound weird. It was beautiful to watch. Like i saw the you see the horse dropback as everybody else is kind of running away and they went twenty two. So they're going they're going quick upfront in the midst of biz who If i remember right stole race last year key lender to big price but actually close from off the pace in that one to win When out to the front and attract by miss mosaic franks rocket. Of course who. I told you i thought was toss and didn't run a jump. I was happy with that Sir should say didn't jump but was beaten a couple of links by the rest of them So he she ran at joe. I that i shouldn't be so dismissive but bells the one. I mean it. Just she drops back. She gets back six seven behind whatever it was and just with every stride see on the turn just inches closer to him inches. Close like so steady and smooth. And i honestly thought when they straightened out that she was going to really go by them but Some of the other horses who had also been stocking. Of course you know. They weren't right up on that hot pace Club car had to kind of shift around and come to the outside. I thought club car ran a monster race. A steel town tosa was the one i thought was going to maybe get the jump on bells one but bills one just able to out kick that one and You know three of them within a knack and it was just another length or so back in the midst of biz. But so i almost wonder if some people are going to question bells the one in terms of you know. Well she didn't she kinda got set up and didn't really blow the doors off down. The stretch is is that enough to maybe go against her Come breeders cup time or or something like that. Well we'll make those decisions won't get there but one eight three the final time and me man. She is just the coolest of the cool. I just love horses like this She's made now over one point. Two million dollars was the person she for that when she got one hundred fifty thousand for that one so she made one point three million dollars for a loath inbox tables and neil passing the trainer but just ultra-consistent seems to keeneland now three for seven. They're on obviously a couple of big wins there for a bells the one victorious in the tc a the lady stakes. This was a wire-to-wire masterpiece by flavian pratt. As blowout goes to the front sets honest but not crazy fractions and regal glory. I thought jose ortiz made a nice move going down the backstretch and into the turn. Because she was a little further back she was back and forth and he kinda got her up into second with. I thought maybe a little bit of an early move but a nice move and then when they turned for home he was very very confident. And i think thought he was going to be able to go by but Pratt and blow out with something left. They got up to ride alongside nose to nose and blowout kicked right back and ended up winning by a half length. They were another half length in front of the aidan. O'brien runner empress josephine. Al tika kinda got stopped a little bit there at the top of the stretch tried to come through and just could never get up past Even the top three and ended up finishing in fourth harvey little oil certainly a little bit of a disappointment at eight to one loomed up. Just a smidge there for a second but really just never involve hendy woods. Who i thought was going to have a big chance. Didn't do a whole lot of running and Finished toward the back of the pack but blow out champ round going one. Two i believe peter brent one to right they were the same silks Winning the first lady stakes and kind of the the anti had running style for sure right like blow out his is just go to the front and let's see how long we can take it and i honestly think for him for chad. It's gotta be a good thing right like you have the front runner if somebody presses that one or if the horse just doesn't run a three-set day in most of these races he's going to have one or two other options this race he also had via dera who is very very wide and came with a little bit of a rally but again nice to have multiple options and certainly Nice when one of those options is speed speed is always so dangerous. The breeders fraternity clayborn breeders fraternity mile and a sixteenth automate. Track half million dollars up for grabs one of the interesting debates going on social media before this was the morning line. Andy serlin had been adamant that Classic causeway was going to go off as a as the favourite and not only as the favourite but you know a strong favourite and andy was one hundred percent right on that went off at a dollar. Ninety and the next closest horse was I think five ninety so and then six to one six to one for a great escape stellar trip. Eight to one for enroll seventy one double thunder but from that outside post giant or classic causeway giant's causeway classic causeway did get down to a nine to five money. Let's take a listen back to the breeders fraternity. Call from kirk. Becker on saturday keelan. And they're off the kleber and breeders. Futurity there goes great escape between horses. Classic causeway. Fires out mr boma. They're toward the inside with early speed. Don't wait up and seal beach in stellar tap. Also close of the opening strides but classic causeway moves by for the lead classic. Causeway gets to the rail leaves it by a length stellar tap goes second around the first turn mr boma third toward the inside by just. Don't wait up as fourth seal. Beach is in fifth grade escape. His six mex- time his seventh rattle and roll toward the center of the pack down toward the inside. His eighth kevin follies ninth. Double thunder is tenth king. Curling travels in eleventh. Costa tara is a wide twelve american sanctuary thirteenth and last after an opening quarter in twenty two point eight one seconds classic causeway the leader classic causeway on top by a length and a half stellar tap stalking the pace from second by a length. Mr boma third toward the inside by three quarters of a length. Don't wait up on the outside of seal beach than great escape. Who travels toward the far outside is starting to move now. Great escape is gonna be four wide to the far turn trying to move up from fifth forty six point seven four seconds for the opening half mile classic causeway the leader by length. Here's stellar tap now. Taking aim midway on the far turn pair worked their way toward the quarter bowl. Great escape as racing along third double funders caught in some traffic about six off. The leaders rattling role and rattle and roll was moving wide off the turn rattle and roll top of the short stretch to challenge classic causeway stellar tap third double thunder his fourth and still five lakes from delayed rattle enroll into the final furlong of the kleber and breeders futurity rattle and roll the advantage up to three lengths now double thunder classic causeway than american sanctuary no catching rattle and roll brian hernandez junior by five lakes on the line. Double thunder was up second classic causeway third american sanctuary fourth. One minute forty three point. Seven eight seconds so given all the hype that classic causeway had coming into this race kind of just expected once he was able to make the lead and obviously went honestly twenty two and four forty six three ninety not easy fractions by and they certainly slowed down in the final stages dirt horses and two year olds. It's often do but rattle enroll was that was just an impressive move. It was a sustained move was a powerful move by me bryant hernandez if you watch him when he gets to the leader he almost wants the horse to kind of chill out for a second because he's like you can see. He kinda grabs a hold as their kind of looming up and as they're passing those early horses and i know that the angle when a wide horse comes at sometimes looks like their head. They're not yet but whatever at that time you know inside the quarter pole. I mean really. Just looked like he was like well. Gosh we can. We can chill out here. Were blown by these horses. And i got a lot of horse left You know and this was one who had kind of an eventful career right like got away really slow in the debut came with a big run. Got bet that second time out and and bolted and therefore didn't get a chance to even finish the race very impressive churchill last time and man just really really look nice in what figured i thought to be kind of a strong pace race and i guess some somewhat was for some early on mean stellar tap had to certainly work you see ricardo santana shortly after really having to get to that turn to try to get his position and hold it and eventually found himself. I think in in a pretty decent spot but it certainly looked as though plastic causeway got his spot easier than than stellar tapped it as they went into that turn but our rally role just kinda settled on the outside and covered ground but man. It just doesn't matter that much when you're that much the best in the world by and i'm sure kinney mcpeek and company very excited with the effort they got from From that one. The i guess feature on the car the three quarter million dollar great one keeneland turf mile a funds. Here he feel. The twelve and order of australia went off six to five. I know that the horse won the breeders cup over this surface or breeders cup race over the surface and that's not to dismiss that the horse was seventy five to one that day and there was some good horses in this race and i know the horse had gone on to. Do you know some decent work since then. It's been pretty consistent against some some good european horses. But i was shocked that price and i don't know if it's just the power of winning a breeders cup race at keeneland or what and i'm sure obviously some of it is looking back at the you know the performance because it was not much of one but even before i was saying like this prices bananas on this horse Ends up going after sixty five favorite. Although at four to one for ivar last year's champion this race Like hot browns of going off at just under seven two one nine one pixel eight double digits. The restless listen back to the call of the keeneland turf mile from saturday. And they're off in the keeneland turf mile. There's tell your daddy in love both with early speed here comes brown storm and die anoop on the far outside brown storm goes to the lead diamond oops moves forward into the second spot in some like it. Hot brown followed by. Tell your daddy who moves up. Third saves the ground against the rail. Ivar is there in between horses and forth some like it. hot brown. Three wide moves up. Once bought from fifth order of australia is six around the first turn and love shuffled back seventh toward the inside front run. The fed is in eighth space traveler. One lane off the rail in night the break of three more legs back to pixel late in tenth. Arjun telo is eleventh and monarchs glenda's last of the twelve twenty three point. Three seven seconds the time for the opening quarter brown storm. The leader brown storm lead by a length diamond. Oops a second three quarters of a lake some like it. Hot brown third a half length. Tell your daddy moves up a closer to the inside joy thereby ivar between horses and love right behind that. When order of australia to their outside forty seven point three seconds for that opening half mile onto the far turn brown storm the leader. Three quarters of a length some like it hot brown to the far outside and diamond oops is pressing the issue between that pair and then i've are in fourth just to the outside of tell your daddy. Top of the stretch. They turned for home. brown storm. is the leader diamond. Oops some like it. Hot brown is there. I've are trying to find more still fourth still three lakes away some like it hot brown delay. Tell your daddy and end love running on tell your daddy and love and love coming forward space traveler ron and love has the latest deep stretch and love striding forward for alex assured to win the keeneland turf vile in love it so in love the the other paulo winning this race last year now This one winning at this year pretty honestly tremendous chievements for for that barn. You know obviously southern california base for a lot of years and came back and honestly. I thought i've are in alright at this spot to finish fourth coming off a bit of a layoff haven't seen since kentucky derby day and Can look poison ready position but the stablemate was right behind. Ivar kicked out for alex assured twenty two one in the morning line and bet down to twelve and one i think was actually like twenty three or twenty four to one going into the gates at this was a big time hammer late job i i will say. I saw a lot a lot a lot. A lot of you know tout types public handicapper types Saying they had this source so word was certainly out amongst the Amongst the folks and so make sense. The horse took some late money but does certainly a horse. That's in career form right now Shard is three for three on the horse. Since getting on board back at arlington. The summer they went down to a kentucky downs. One of four hundred grander down there and man. This is just a really big leap forward. I mean and this horse was gone. It bypassed everybody made just really really super impressive tell your daddy finishing second surviving inquiry. There was a lotta bumping and grinding there in I guess. I wanna midstretch. But i want to say mid to late stretch inside the eighth pole. I think it was and Tell you that was actually poisoned to run a really really big one or not poison poised to run a really big one For julian lepre kinda was sitting in a good spot down toward the inside and Daylight and i thought it was gonna make some noise but so often when horses have to kind of shift out or you know find another position to really start to kick those horses down the outside who just have all that momentum and nobody's stopping them it's just hard to i guess Match that because in love was just roland so so well or australians of finishing last Certainly disappointing efforts especially for backers at six to five. What do you get back for your trifecta. There was Seventeen hundred the exacto was three hundred. Sixty one dollars seventy cents. Nice exactly we were. It was funny. We were talking about the turf. Pick three and you know golden pal with blowout with in love you got back for the three dollar pick three you got back eight hundred thirty seven dollars. There was two hundred twenty five thousand in the pool for that Bet i think the parlay. If i remember right it was like four hundred and something dollars for so if you put three dollars to win and the party thing you know you gotta count for that. The win odds are subject to take out every race. And that's one of the beauties of pick three and pick forces you're paying the takeout once but if you got three dollars to win on golden pal at one to you got back. Four dollars and fifty cents. Bet four dollars and fifty cents to win at dell say just a little over five to one you know you're up to like twelve six. I think you're up to Think it was twenty seven dollars or so and then twenty seven dollars to win at twelve to one Get you up into the. When is two hundred and seventy. Yeah you know into the high mid three so basically paid double the partly more than double the partly so so the effects of higher minimum and also the lower take-up good stuff but you know we talked about the sequence mapping thing honestly i two degree this I mean it played out very kind of as you thought right. I mean blowout took action was down from the morning line. Go everybody a lot of people. I'm sure single. Golden powell and you ended up a decent price in their twenty one morning. Line versus the twelfth one off price and the eight hundred thirty seven dollars so nice Pay on and that's something we see with the higher minimum lower takeout waiters. We see it in the five. Allot you'll see people talk about you know. Pr tweets about it. Like oh man. It was favorite favorite secretary. Second choice still pays good so hopefully it leads to more of these type of bets. Offered if If it's a success two hundred twenty five thousand for a special pick three pretty good so let's hope it continues to grow throughout the the meat but that is a look at the saturday car. Why don't we take a quick time out. We'll talk a little bit about friday. Probably talk about literacy win in the spinster. And all that coming up on tomorrow show but and we'll talk. Certainly a lot of keeneland stuff with nick. Nick luck later on this week so we'll talk a little bit about friday's actually a lot of thoughts on bella. We talked a lot about the belmont early. Pick five and it kind of played out very. Interestingly based on how. I talked about it so i want to talk about that on the other side of the commercial break. It is a monday edition. We can recap of the jason beam horse. Podcast brought to you by twin. Spires the jason beam horseracing podcast brought to you by twin spires. 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I want to touch on friday. Racists from keen linden special reserve victorious in the stole keenan. Ogden phoenix stakes. Kurt becker gets kudos for just getting. Remember that one at the finish line a lot is. I don't even know what stole keenan ogden is. Is that like a law firm. Is it a horse racing thing here at keen in an ogden. We're here when you suffer a personal injury so it sounds like an attorney firm. Maybe i'm wrong but Whatever it is and chat to them for sponsoring horseracing. We like that Special reserve a victorious Sits just off the pace and scores nicely just might had to try and arrive mouthpiece. He grabbed a quarter pretty bad and ended up. Fading looked like he was kinda poised. Run a big one but they said when he straightened out. He grabbed a quarter. Which is i believe when they step on their front foot with their back foot. Is that right and it kind of you know ripped a little chunk off. You could see michelle actually posted pictures on facebook of the the wound will call it but glitzy that he's okay and nothing too serious but does special reserve victorious. Bet down to a six to five oslo west but down a little bit too and came with a nice run. Muccio thought turned in another solid performance. I just don't know that he can win at this top level but boy he sure lay's it down every time and put in a nice effort so happy for the connections gutierrez and john ortiz with a third place finish in degrade to stole keenan. Ogden phoenix the daily al sobriety stakes judas map for brad cox and florence drew breaking down on the inside and not always just kinda geared right of the Early speed horse run up who Cleared off and got a pretty easy lead. The are unhappy son and her daughter. I should say but Jews map stayed out in the clear. Much much the best winner of This one in My buddy see quist from debuted at colonial. He rallied up. She rather why. I keep calling. He's she rallied to finish third. She was way y. Two says eight pathak three sixteenth and obviously made it close for second to so i maintain that sequenced is a pretty talented runner. So hopefully she'll get a chance to really strut her stuff. She continues to mature over to belmont park for the weekend. a big stakes triple. We talked about this kind of middle of the card stakes races. They made them racist five six and seven but we talked a lot about the early pick. Five and i talked about how it had kind of a number of logical. You know kind of possibilities in terms of each leg kind of had one or two three horses where they were all going to be kind of low prices which i guess is true of a lot of races just seemed as though they were. Maybe a little more obvious in the sequence and it was one of those sequences where none of those horses one and so you had an upset in the first race Metulla was a third choice but there was a two to five and a three two one. Two five seemed a bit much especially for a horse. Who had kind of proven. it's not. The horse had a few chances to to try to win and broke slowly. And so then you had matola who inherited a really really good spot behind a super big longshot grabbed the lead and just never looked back. You get a nine to one. Pretty good upset winner but also third choice. You get ten first. Time started wondering the maiden special in this race had kind of two horses that dominated the betting they both eight to five gun boat and vagaries. Vigorous was coming out of the kitchen race and you ran into a really good. I her in chattanooga for cuts. You gotta tend to one in the second leg okay. It's kind of interesting The to linda rice horses one of them took a lot of money. The other didn't boulder the one that didn't ended up Skating on the lead and in one at eight to one okay. Three big prices. And then you get the chad brown first time and who. They bet a little surprising. I just assumed that this race would get bet between the first time starters but they bet the experienced runners. The chad summers horse mattdoyle down to just sub three to to zenden who the first time starter. Who ended up getting the win at five to one who i was surprised was the was longer than both the pletcher. And the steve asmussen you know. I know andy and to be able pick the horse on top and you know. Their word carries little weight. New york but Everybody went to that five. So what i'm getting to is you get to the stakes race with you know kind of that. You know lot of people were going to be going singling. Frenzy fire or singly. Baby yoga or going those two because they figured to be strong favorites. And wouldn't you know in a four horsfield. So first of all frenzy fire breaks through the gate which is no never never good and he goes off as your even money favorite. Let's take a listen back to the call here This was vosper stakes. Forensic a fire broke on top but following see is right there and baby. yoda good. Effort is the early trailer and fourth. Following see has gone on with it. Take over the lead. It's following see in front by a little more than length forensic fires on the outside baby. Yoder is down at the rail and good effort is fourth following. Say leads ferenza. Fire here by a length baby. Iota remains in third down towards the rail and good effort. The quarter twenty two and two fifth seconds following see by likes forensic fire on the outside and second then baby iota and a good effort as they come for the top of the stretch it is following say who has the lead here. Ferenza fire good effort on the outside baby. Yoder is down at the rail the half one and forty five and one fifth seconds following. She has now opened up here following. Say in front by three then forensic fire baby iota and good effort following say pouring it on here in the stretch impressive to win the grey to vosper following say ran six furlongs minute nine and one fifth seconds so following sia pretty dominating win and honestly. I didn't think really after a certain point in the race. I mean it just kind of looked over midway on the turn in part because of course you know what happened with frenzy. Fire breaking through the gate. I was texting with friends. That race was going off the number of times. I've seen a few horses breakthrough. The when i say breakthrough i mean breakthrough and take a few steps like. I've seen a pop open before but they don't take a step. But i think there's something it's just got to do something to their adrenaline and everything else to to make that started and not have it happen in slowdown and then come back like it just for or just you know throw them off a little bit or whatever it does it just it. It seems to have an effect on horses As and by the way the other horse has got to sit there and wait negate which is another factor of this but so forensic fire when they start the race he breaks really sharp like he broke right on cue and you could see. I read like trying to send to take advantage. Because i think it was somewhat expected. The baby yoga was agony. Either go or following see was going to go and he thought maybe i can get the jump on these guys but he to get the job. He came over into baby yoga and tried to get ahead of that one and as he was doing that they kind of you know they touched a little bit there and following see meanwhile just coasted to an easy lead and you could tell on the turn. Following see was just traveling so so good and you know. They tried the longer races. The haskell obviously was very ambitious they were they were beaten a mile and that even though they finished third you gotta remember the there was the fallen horse so really they were gonna before an a distant fourth at that And then last time third behind to beasts. And i mean what does that do. For jackie's warrior in life is good. Who already knew both very good. But now you got following see beaten up on forensic fire who's a legit breeder's cup sprint type. Some new third and the race last year. He's won his share of grade twos and grade threes. And so you know. I thought following see this was A certainly a a stamping of you know. Hey this is a pretty nice orson. We'll see what happens in terms of where following see goes next and how much he develops. But you know he's still pretty lightly raced and i never wanna overlook that he got one hundred beyer speed figure for the effort and Very solid baby. Yoda i thought was kind of thrown out of his game a little bit when he got bumped early and was kinda between horses and had the steady in the whole nine yards. And you know. I i know that much was made of his his effort last time out and you know did he just kind of return reality was he'd never as good as that. You know that effort whatever it was you know we shall see but Friendly fire of course can ran a a good forensic fire race. It's just you know the four horsfield's they always are a little bit of a weird run race it. They seem to not set up quite as true as a lot of other races. But regardless following with a nice win for todd pletcher and company the matron stakes. It was bubble rock who sat just behind the leaders. I read ortiz and rally. Really nice effort from the runner up by gala who had just won a debut and they jumped all the way up into this race and she came with a really nice run From way way. Back at twenty nine want i think a a horse to watch In these Juvenile philly racist because man she was She was moving. I thought it was a bit of an eye catcher. Kinda you know. I mean. I always to optics as horn because i used the product and like a lot. There was a lotta horses. That had good optic setups. That ran really good over the weekend. I know one. Emily's top picks one at san antonio. It was five to one in a small field and just totally annihilated the horses and you look back and there was an effect. The i noticed the all weather races. At gulfstream i was watching the optics. The stronger finisher seem to really be at a a good advantage at least the optics stronger finisher seem to be doing really really well known there was one race where there was two horses that had good spots in the plot and they had huge squares. Which means they're the best finishers or could finishers one was even money and one was eleven to one and he looked almost identical and it was like well okay and the eleven one one and so it was great but it was just they ran one two and it it was a two thousand dollar exact i but it was one of those ones where it was like. Wow that that's your played out on paper. How you kind of thought it might the joe hearst her class a great one and rock emperor with a Upset win for chad brown. I tweeted this out afterwards. I go yes. The old chad brown fifteen to one over fourteen one because he had served the king as well and i mean it paid eighty nine dollars. It was funny when i tweeted that out. I had i think three people respond pay kind of light and it's like yeah it is first of all if there's forty two exact combinations in the race right so you're you're talking about that. Plus they weren't they weren't the longest two shots in the board. They were the second two longest and third two longest. So you're talking really about the fifth choice over actually six choice over fifth choice which you know. It's still paid good. But i think people were fifteen one over fourteen to one. You think it's just gonna pay really begging somebody replied oh. I didn't know there. Because i reply there was first of all. It's chad chad. And so some people are probably gonna play that. But i said you know there's only forty two combinations like it's you know it's it's not easy to get a huge huge payout when there's just less combinations the guy. I didn't know there was going to be math. And i was like well. That's kind of what this all is. Because you add in another horse or to even if they're just you know they're an additional thirteen or fifteen to one shots you're going to increase the payout quite strictly based on the number of combinations that are possible but Ninety dollars with china top rock emperor ran away from him. It was something awesome. Took the blinkers off and really really ran nice. It was kind of a weird race in the sense that there was a couple of like middle moves in the race channel maker got to the lead and then took a real serious run at him and then goof. Oh made that big huge move coming into lane and then goofy kinda flattened out. And so i guess you know what a mile and a half race. It's bound to happen. Where your horses make moves or flatten out a little bit early and goof. Oh ended up hold on for third. But the top two got away very very impressive in their victories. So that's just a quick look at some of the weekend stuff going on from around the country. As i said nick luck. Join us this week. Door delgado from the breeders cup. Join us and dan silver coming up later in the week for horse player thursday Appreciate everybody interacted with on twitter over the weekend. It was fun talking racist with folks in. We'll talk racing with y'all week here on the program so best of luck to everybody out there. If you're playing on this holiday my. I know a number of the tracks are running santa. Anita's running right. I how many tracks we're running at grants pass. That's all i've been focused on Sanity actually is the only one of the big tracks that looks likes running delaware park finger lakes forty area. Our normal fresno's runnings california And then up at grants pass. Were run tomorrow night. Indiana grand run. India monday carpet. They normally do right. It's also closing weekend closing day tomorrow at left bridge the rocky mountain turf club. They're wrapping up their a twenty twenty one season. So if you wanna play a little f- bridge the are. Mtc who else is run mountaineer k. Parks so i feel like it's all the normal ones plus california so that's it anyways. Good luck out there today. We'll see you guys back tomorrow.

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Out of the Gate | August 6, 2021

Daily Racing Form

27:09 min | 2 months ago

Out of the Gate | August 6, 2021

"Speeds and supplements developed by kentucky equine research. Our research tested and race proven for over thirty years. Top trainers and veterinarians have relied on science technology and products from kentucky equine research to feel top performance from the breeding shed to the sales ring and the track look for katiyar products and learn more at ktar dot com kentucky equine research world leaders in equine nutrition. Everybody daily racing form weekend handicapping preview program. I'm your host stands elman. Thanks so much for watching. Here's what's coming up in this week's edition of out of the gate. Daily racing form handicappers. Mike beard david aragon. And i will take a look at the three grade one races at the spa on saturday. The whitney featuring five of the best horses in the country the test the signature race for three year old filly sprinters in north america and the saratoga derby were many european invaders enticed by the one million dollar purse kentucky equine research presents. This week's edition of nicole rousseau's pedigree pick segment. She's always looking for value taking a look at the horses bloodlines and also we have mark assertions weekend game plan re looks for value. Best pets as well. We're all in line so let's break out of the gate guys. Only got five for this whitney about. There's really a way you can go wrong here. No matter who you wind up picking in this race personally. I just wanted to take a horse so i feel like is probably going to go off at an overlaid price here. That's the number one by my standards. We're going to look at a replay of them right now. This is a seasonal. You only go in the flat mile around two turns at oakland. I just felt like you ran really well and here showed that he still has some ability and winning this race despite carrying all the ground in here and running down a pretty good horse you've got through right on the inside with a perfect trip. I might standard still is able to close that horse down at the other thought. This was a good performance. I thought he ran really well. In the met mile last time he stretching back out to a distance he handles you know. I don't want to be too strongly against the two favorites towards the outside. But i have never been a big believer in knicks. Go and i just don't really want to take a short price on him. I just felt like by my standards would be too good a price for me to pass up and here. I don't love him but he's divorced. I'm going with the whitney. Let's go the other guys like. I am not trying to beat the likely favorites knicks. Go in the whitney whether you look at running lines or fractional times or the time formulas pace projector. He just figures to have a significant tactical advantage in this race as the only speed horse with nobody in here to really press him. I mean you've got horses like swi- skydiver and by my standard that have a little bit of tactical speed but none of them are going to sacrifice themselves to try and defeat. Knicks go in this race in. He just figures to control things up front like he did last time in his prepar this race the grade three corn husker and will watch him come through the stretch of that race. He was just so impressive. this day. He got out in front to a clear lead going the same nine for a long distance and he just ran away from this field and there were some pretty good horses behind him including the runner up last judgement. Who lost by ten lengths and has run some pretty big speed figures in his own right and as you look through. Knicks goes form. I know that iran some poor races in the saudi cup and the met mile. Some might say that. He's a better horse to turns than he is at one turn. I'm not sure if i quite buy into that. But the fact of the matter is. He put forth a huge effort last time. One thirty seven time formula speed figure one thirteen buyer and we've seen them come back and put forth excellent back to back efforts in the past so i think if you're a peach that corn husker. He's just going to win. This whitney a short price. I'm gonna go with the number five max field in the grade. One whitney. this is a horse that was always cut out to be very good. It just seemed an unfortunate series of injuries would pop up absolutely the wrong times missed most of his three year old campaign. He's come back at four with several good races now. The nut going into his last two races was that he hasn't run very fast. While you can cross that off the list a one. Oh five beyer. Speed figure in the alysheba followed by a one zero three in the stephen foster. And just watch that stephen foster. If you don't believe in the source just yet. He blew by them with a wide sweeping move on the turn and kept on rolling in the stretch. I believe the source is the real deal. This is a test form. He's facing a very very strong field. I think mex- fields really good however probably not going to be the favourite with knicks. Go in this race. let's head on over to nicole. Russo's pedigree pick segment is sponsored by kentucky equine research. Hey everyone nicole russo coming to you for out of the gates pedigree pick segment sponsored by our friends at kentucky equine research. The saratoga derby for three year olds on the turf. Part of the outstanding whitney card. The saturday the race could serve as a prop into the travers stakes for at least one horse king fury. Who missed last. Weekend's jim dandy do quarantine will make his first. Start on turf here as an intended. Prep for the travers. He's going a mile and three sixteenths. Here so i think this race will be great. Tighten her for the travers which is in a mile and a quarter of course if he takes to the turf well enough for him to run effectively and to get enough out of the race now. He's by curling out of the great one winter. Taurus and on the surface it's dirt pedigree. However there is some versatility in their thomas was a minor stakes winner on. Synthetic at press kyle before moving up degraded company in the dirt. Her dan comedy by turf champion theatrical also a winner on all weather and his produced to turf stakes horses now kirwin best known for his exploits. Hunter empress success as a classic sire dirt however he ran very well with a grade one placing in his lone. Start on the turpin. He's the sire of turf graded winners such as diversity. Harbor mulan day. Megan current texas rhino and others so walking furious pedigree does trend toward dirt. I think he's got a versatile enough pedigree that give them enough of a feel for the turf to make the saratoga derby and effective travers crap for him to get enough out of the race. You might wanna use him as a value horse in your exotic on saturday as i do. Think the favourite bolshoi. La will be heavily bat and there will be some valued be found behind him. Now if king fury strikes for you and runs out a super fact. I hear you could then again get value when he moves back to his preferred surface for the travers as distance has always looked to be no object for this cold. Thanks for tuning in this week and out of the gate as the team continues to preview the stellar saratoga card field for the grade. One test steak seventy so a mile three year old fillies and some of the better three year old fillies in the country that for expanded stakes previous bowl the graded stakes including the test. Horse by horse in-depth analysis head on over to video dot d. r. dot com or the daily racing form youtube channel search results. The expected favourite in this racism deserving. One he's about header a neck away from being undefeated in her career the only blemish on her card in kentucky oaks she was nipped by the very imposing mollify. She's far from the only talented horse in this race. However and as in the whitney we've got three separate opinions for you to consider in saturday's test the two favorites on the morning line in this grade. One test are the chad brown pair of always carina and search results. But this is definitely not a two-horse race as you can make a valid case for all runners. Deborah entered in this field and as for those two chad brown favorites. I mean search result has the credentials coming in here is the winner of the great one acorn last time she just missed a division leader mollified kentucky oaks prior to that. But that's a little weird that they're turning her back to run this test rather than trying the coaching club. American oaks a couple of weeks ago against malla thought and i haven't loved the way that she's training into this race. She's actually been working in company with her stablemate here. Always carina and i think always carina has been slightly getting the best of her in those workouts. I also prefer always carina turning back and distance more than i do search results because always carina ran so well over a sprint distance in her career debut so both of these chad brown or brown runners can win but i actually prefer the horse that finished just behind search results last time in the acorn. Let's take a look at the structure of that race. In the one that i want to focus on is obligatory who comes into the stretch in last place in the five horsfield and there wasn't a whole lot of pace ahead of her in that acorn but she makes a big rump. Through the final quarter mile to just miss search results and arguably obligatory around the best race that acorn. She's just really improved. Since they've turned her back to one turn racist she also ran very well to back to win the bells coming from last place in a twelve poors field to get up to win over the talented day. Out of the office. So i think obligatory is going to really love the seven furlongs of this test. And there's enough speed and here to sit up her late run so the number four obligatory for me in the test really nice running or the tier. I like david sources well obligatory. I'm definitely want to use that horse. And i feel like she could be an okay price and your. I went into a little bit of a different direction for my topic. I'm gonna go to the outside here to the horse. That probably has perhaps more to prove than anybody else in the field. But i really feel like bella. Sophia could be a really talented philly for rudy rodriguez. We'll see what she does here. They're stopping her up in class for this race or stretching out to seven furlongs for the first time both pretty serious questions for. She's run well on all three of her starts. Here's here. most recent one where they decided to skip the victory ride which would be the sort of logical prep for the test down bell. My part they skip that race. They waited for an allowance race the next day. She took on some older horses. You're not a great field but you just have to like the way that bellevue wins. This race that right up on a pretty good pace as soon as she was asked to question the stretch see settles. This raise very quickly very impressive performance for her. She's got speed from the outside she's going to have to use it and perhaps try to clear off on this field but i think she's talented as anybody in here. She's going to be a price in this race. I'm gonna take a shot and see if she's this good. I respect the points made by david and mike for their respective selections in the test. But i'm gonna go in a different direction. let's watch the number two super spectaculars most recent race. The victory ride at belmont now. This race was not a very strong field. You say so much tougher horses in the test but she did some good things. She didn't break very well. She made a nice wide move into a pace. That wasn't exactly strong. And she kept to her business and she earned a very strong beyer speed figure when i look at her past performances. I try to break her down into two horses. The sprint super spectacular. That's pretty good. Starting from her first two starts at woodbine where she looked like she could be any kind and the to turn super spectacular. Who was well far from spectacular. When she was briefly on the kentucky oaks trail. I think more cassie realizes. Now this one is a sprinter there should be pace for her to run and she is in very good form she six to one on. David's morning line. Maybe she'll drift a little bit. I'll go with super spectacular in the test will move from dirt to turf the saratoga derby a grade one worth a million is up next at the field for the grade one one million dollar saratoga. Derby three year olds going a mile and three sixteenths on the melon turf. Course be sure to check out or expanded stakes previews of all the graded races all weekend. Long and video duct e dot com or the daily racing form youtube channel. Lots of european entrance in this race truly adding an international flavor david mike. They're leaning towards the imports. Looks like the europeans are going to be very tough to beat here in the saratoga. Derby guys a big international flavor. Here i think they sent some good horses over clearly. Bolshoi ballet is the horse to beat once again. They ship them back over here after winning down at belmont last time and winning pretty convincingly even though it wasn't a particularly fast i still thought he ran. Well there he's divorced to beat. I like somebody else in this race. I'm going towards the outside with number nine state of rest. I really like what this horse has done. So throughout his career. For joseph. O'brien and i really liked his return to the races this year. Three year old debut. We're going to look at that right now. The celebration stakes This source gets very unlucky in this ray buried down towards the inside for most of the running it takes him forever to get himself out onto the clear and the stretch once he finally does. I love the way this horse. Mike destroyed he starts making up ground very quickly at the end. But he runs out of ground just misses. I thought he finished a real good third in here. I thought this was a real step in the right direction for this source. He's never been this far I don't really feel like the distance of this race is supposed to get him. Beat i think this could be pretty good. He's gonna be a price and i like him in this race. This saratoga derby has a real european flavor to it actually. Five of the eleven runners that are entered for this race. Come over from europe to compete in this grade one for a million dollars at saratoga and the one who's likely to take the most money is bolshoi ballet the winner of the first leg of this turf triple series the belmont derby. I wasn't that visually impressed with his win. There he got it. Done is even money favourite but it was a workmanlike performance. Ryan moore really had to get after him to do it. And he looked so dominant against the american horses coming into that race but some of his european formed from earlier in the year hasn't really aged that well and i think that there are some other runners coming over from europe. Who are a little bit more appealing at better prices. And the one who intrigued me. The most is the number four cadillac. Who comes over. For trainer jessica harrington. We saw him last year. The breeders cup juvenile turf only managed to finish fourth that day over some strong form in ireland prior to that but his last race in the international a group three prevent at the curragh suggests that maybe he's really taking a step forward as a three year old. We'll take a look at the final quarter mile or so of that reysen. He's really game to get the job. Done here wins. A desperate finished by knows over a couple of runners were right alongside him at the finish line but those two that finished right behind him are pretty good horses. The dawn patrol is a four year old. Who was group one place a three year old in the irish darby and the third place finisher true self. He had actually beaten the solid american horse channel maker earlier in the year in saudi arabia. And since then was group one place in the tattersalls gold cup in ireland. So i just think the cadillac is coming over with some really strong european running lines and if he's able to take another step forward in the saratoga derby i think he might be able to upset the favorite bolshoi ballet. I'm also going with the european invader in the saratoga derby but a different one than the horses that mike and david like i like the seven secret protector. Let's go back to secret. Protectors most recent win during the dubai carnival and mile and three sixteenths on the turf. this is turf debut. He looks very good winning. I thought and after this race was sent back to england and he ran well in all three starts in england. It's not as well. As i saw him in dubai last time out in the group. Three hampton court at a mile and a quarter. He sat last off of a fast pace. He followed the winner turning into the straight and he just didn't have that horse's turn of foot he's astaire maybe he's a plot or sort of clumped along to get up into third at the end of that race. I think the source though has some ability. He's going to get the distance he actually might want more. It's all about whether he's going to get a trip right now. Apple being godolphin on fire with the horses. They're shipping into the states from europe. Big money mike smith takes them out. This should be a decent price on the tote. I'll take a stab with the seven secret protector in the saratoga derby. I'm very curious to see who. Marcus hirsch likes this weekend. He is always looking for value his weekend. Game plan is coming up followed by our best bets for saturday. Arthur correspondent and handicapper. Come do with weekend game plan for saturday. August seven twenty twenty one. We'd need tear togo fabulous card. They're going to choose races to talk about from the whitney card. The whitney is not one of them. Unfortunately although i very much look forward to seeing how that race unfold i fear that exco is going to be something around even money steal off to a comfortable early lead as want. Because he's just so fast around two turns and prove on catchable. I'll see what the exact we're looking like by my standards. It's a horse to. I think could sneak into second as probably the fourth of maybe even the fifth choice wouldn't be huge but it could be worth play depending on how things are shaking out. Start with the test obligatory to win this race. Turn the tables on search results beater and corden last out one turn mile at belmont park. That was running a very slow pace. The field started sprinting away. Picking up the tempo midway around the far turn in obligatory was keeping up decently. But you kinda got left flat-footed there. I don't think he's her style to wrote a big start and stop race with multiple moves. She's kind of one run closer. And i think she's gonna suit a faster pace race at era toga better than she did that. Slow paced mile belmont eight bells win at churchill. Kind of is the standard that i'm looking for. They might not go quite as fast in this race. And i think that the field is considerably better than the when she beat their top to bottom but this affiliate who is kind of later developer. In my opinion she did show a lot of talent winning her maiden race at gulfstream earlier this year. But you seem like a horse who would be far better at the end of the season beginning. Couple reason workout video that were available for breezes. One solo on in company with tacitus suggests that she's really thriving saratoga set around big price. She might get down a little off that line. But i still think in this. Very deep talented group is offer playable when odds in the test saratoga derby invitational Very substantive affair with a lot of different angles coming at you. Many european horses at these horses that either ran in europe last out or are based in europe. Couple horses that have shipped over already bolshoi ballet. Who won the belmont. Derby the first in this series of longer-distance new york turf races for three year olds and cadillac. Who came to the breeders cup juvenile turf last year. Bolshoi ballet the two to one morning. Line favorite will be favored to win this race again. I suspect he's going to be formidable. Indeed he might not like belmont as much as as he man togas much like on. Excuse me he is kind of a big one. Run worse was supposed to be a derby horse really poorly in that race rating. O'brien and the horses. They send to these races in america. I wouldn't say they're disappointments but they have other things going on over there. They you know. The three year olds run against older horses in the judd. Monday national king george so on and so forth so i think the very top of the crop tends to head to those spots but this was perfectly suited american raising. I just think it ashore price with perhaps different circumstances in play here. He doesn't necessarily have to win. I didn't particularly love any of the other european horses. Either that are trained by americans our that shipped in and i thought that the american runners were somewhat exposed in the belmont. Derby is being cut below going with a new face in the turf division. that'd be king fury. First time for this. Ken mcpeek trainee who had to be scrapped from the derby with a minor problem he had been training really well into that race and i think it was a long shot play for many people just based off the way he seemed to be doing. He was very talented early in his two year old year. And i thought he might very well be a triple crown kind of force before we tailed off in the kentucky jockey club but his lexington stakes was fine and i thought that his comeback race following this back prior to the derby where he closed a lot of brown in a very moderate paced ohio derby finished second to mask parade who returned To run a good race in the jim dandy last weekend. I just feel like King fury has been facing better horses than any of the american forces have and if he's able to take the grass I think he's going to have a big shot. He's got post eleven. I'm hoping that they use whatever speedy has. There's not much pace in this race. Coming out of stronger run dirt racist. You ought to be able to go forward in if not lead. Then get very close. I did not see video of his turf work. But the dirt work that i found a video of online was very encouraging pedigree. Wise curling is versatile and obviously tremendous sire and the dam. Terrorists was probably best. Seventy eight zero one hundred mile on dirt but if you dig a little deeper into that female family. There are a lot of grass influences. I think there's a decent chance and worth the risk at the price that the source is gonna be alright. Unter giving could have good account of himself at square win on. We're going to go to the middle of the country to the pea patch. Ellis park. They have got a bunch of states. Races that are preps for richer races at kentucky downs. I looked at the turf sprint. And i'm going to take a little shop with mr hustle horse. Been off a really long time. Since march twenty twenty and he had a long a long left coming into that race to in new barn Trainer at kinealy takes over. He's had a lot of success recently. According to dear f- formulator trainer stats bringing horses back from your plus layoffs in turf sprint. Sprints the regulars eat three two one and those three winners came in allowance races. These weren't just that were compromised. Being dropped down to low levels and taking advantage off competition they were adept prepared to run. Well i am back. This horse at two was quite the sensation in canada. His first two raises on synthetic services. Were really excellent. He ran a little less well on a on a yielding turf course first time turf but still one another stakes race. After which came you know whatever issues of the fallen him. He is a solid work pattern if you project maturation and development in the two years since his best races summer of twenty nineteen. This is a horse who that'd be plenty capable of beating this group. I think that he's rateable speed. He sits right in behind a strong pace. Gets i run on the closers and is well prepared enough to win this stakes race. Hopefully a double digit odds is the third of three weekend game. Plan plays for august seven. My best bet comes in saturday. Sixth race at saratoga. It's the lure stakes are restricted event. On the turf going a mile and a sixteenth in chad brown has a very strong hand in this race. Sending out the two favorites in value proposition and flavius both contenders. But i actually prefer the third chad brown entered in here. That's the number to delaware. And i think he could get a little bit dismissed as the third chad brown runner likely to be the biggest price of that trio because he ran against value proposition. Last time out in the forbid napa. Let's saratoga and i thought the delaware despite the fact that he lost value proposition actually around the better race because there wasn't a whole lot of pace in their rinaldi was able to wire the field on the front end and value proposition at every chance to get by rinaldi in the late stages but delaware was coming from farther back in the pack and actually made up more ground than value proposition. Over the last quarter mile delaware has a really strongly kick on them and we saw that three back when he won. The dangerous our aqueduct. We can take a look at the structure of that race. And he's actually running down the same horse that he didn't quite get to. Last time that forbidden snapple. That jim baen trainee rinaldi who was again loose on the lead in the dangerous. Our and delaware comes with a really wicked final quarter mile to run that horse down when he gets the right kind of pace up and the right kind of trip he's able to produce a really nice sprint. Finish and i'm hoping that's the case in this on saturday because there are eleven horses signed on for turf kind of murky pay scenario. But i think we're going to see a few center. The front end at imposing the delaware can get the record of ground saving trip from mid pack and run down his to cadrone stablemates. Who both figure to be shorter prices than him. I'll go down towards the middle of the card for my best bet at saratoga race number five two year old maiden special weight event They're going to go six seven furlongs in this race rather I went down on the rail seal beach. This is the second time star. There are several very interesting first. Time starters in this race whitney day tend to get the top connections pointing for the big baby race on whitney day. I just don't really wanna first time starter. Going seven furlongs a really tough distance to win that first time out so i want experienced horses and the experience that i want is he'll be done on the inside debuted earlier in the meet up here at saratoga for a wet track. He didn't get out of the gate that way. We'll look at the stretch of that race. Right now. didn't get out of the gate decorate outpaced a little bit. I'm sort of ridden along from off. The pace look like he wanted to float around towards the outside the stretch but there were horses. They're so we went back inside. And i just like the way that he was racing. Ladies making up ground on the leaders he doesn't look he's all into me. I think this was a race at this horse. Might have really needed. They're gonna put. Blinkers on for this mike maker of course off to a really hot start to meet the leading trainer right now. I think this could really build off of what was a very useful debut six to one on the morning line if he goes off at anywhere near that price. I'll take a shot with seal beach in the fifth. My best bets at pimlico race number nine number four that's big venezuela seventy-two on the morning line. Let's watch his most recent dirt star two races ago. He gave this field no chances. He really seemed to like the slot. Didn't he. went right to the front opened up a big lead to keep splashing on home to win as much. The best raced on turf last time out. It didn't go as smoothly for him. Getting class relief. He's moving back to the dirt and best yet he once again. Looks like the controlling speed train or promote to stories having a very nice pimlico meeting. I think he's found a good spot for big venezuela like the morning line odds of seven to two. We thank you so much for watching out of the gate and we urge you to follow all of tv's video offerings. Please subscribe to the daily racing form youtube channel or watch us on video dot d. r. dot com and for the latest news and notes from america's turf authority daily racing form whose follow us on twitter at d. r. f. inside post. That's it for this best of luck with your horses break.

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Barstool Rundown - July 15, 2021

Barstool Rundown

28:44 min | 3 months ago

Barstool Rundown - July 15, 2021

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Pnt after rats around everywhere box. And can i always like to wipe off. I that cleans it alcohol cleaning whatever whatever helps you sleep at night. I'll tell you what that rubbing anything doesn't really get rid of rented any. It's actually probably only one. Without routes i get tight. Pack in order to get in there billie. That'd be a finals box sons. How much you love this. I'd say grabbing people water cooler. Talk to you. There's just a huge. Did watch the first half. I miss et the over. I did not hit that. And then i watched some of all fears ben affleck. Yeah no. I mean the bucks i think are going to win the series. I feel like what also in the net series or the nets got up to. Everyone was like oh this series is over and then the bucks went home and one and sort of the same thing. Here sons went up to. I think you honest as a man on a mission and he wasn't even that good laugh. I mean it was good. Personal was but he had that icon. O'clock insane yeah. That's really all you gotta know off. All you gotta say that fucking fucking blonde. Leave some i mean at this point. I guess if you're washing it your home from your office but like if you were if you needed small talk today at work you could said that it was maybe for tomorrow. Friday you see about block a little outdated. You could try to make it work. So moving on richard sherman guy little into a little bit of trouble. Schefter reported that he showed up at his ex wife's house and was yellen a bunch of stuff and got arrested with domestic burglary charge Kind of sad situation with the internet was raving about it Nine one one call. Everyone's getting angry at the dispatcher. I saw that. I was watching. It was. I think came out when i was watching the first half game at the bar at a bar and i didn't have my headphones bed and listen to how bad is so. Basically the dispatcher is trying to get information from the nine one one caller who's describing the situation and everyone's getting angry at the nine one one dispatcher but In her defense they have to usually stay calm. I stay calm and be very forward with the caller in order to get information so she was basically like where are you. What's going on asking for specifics. Because she's relaying it to the cops and but everyone's just like this nine one. One operator was not being sympathetic to the caller sick. Fuck do you have to say. When i grow up i wanna be nine. I mean this is a perfect segue for one of my favorite. All time scorers theo epstein deal epstein knew. He had not talked about in the the two things that are talking about enough about this. Today is the five year anniversary of tom. Brady accepted his suspension. But what's not talked about. Enough is that he served in italy on vacation with supermodel. Wife came home on super bowl. Mvp and simple of comeback twenty three. That's fucking legendary stuff. The second is not talking about enough. Is that theo obscene. Realizing this is. He had to leave the boston red sox because he was he would sit in his office. At fenway park at two o'clock in the morning and listen. Listen to the What do you call the police. No flake control. What do you call air control. Air traffic controller flight calls of crashing planes. Yeah that's what. I thought that spring to watch plane crash i i i remember it was looking to. Espn expose on him. After he wanted in Chicago they usually guys needed to get the he would also follow strangers just outside the window and watch people watch tv. It would be like he'd want them home kind of just walk away. Susie found someone who and this is at least when he was younger younger. Gm on the red sox not tenure like when he was like twenty six I'm sure i think he was highly twenty four or something. So i think it was his mid to late twenties and he's just dealing with fame and he'd liked being around people who didn't recognize him so he just walk onto the much. I mean come on to. He was a wonder can he was the in boston. Well anyway. pricing shambo hates driver. Oh wait sorry one more thing. So he was so richard. Sherman was drunk and it was kind of the main thing that's illegal now. No basically he was trying to get into a car. The thing is the the charge is weird because it's a domestic burglary charge which everyone thought he was like robbing something but really. It's just when you like enter like a home or business and refused to leave type. So it's like a weird show. Was there any violence no he. Who's a real bad headline. But you knew something. Different happened when during the The the initial tweet. But then when i think the police gave a statement very clearly like he didn't hit anyone. He didn't do anything you can tell. They're like this is probably the law should be changed. It shouldn't be called this awesome. You're drunk and there was all melissa. Got the canine. That's what happened like they. They had to like he refused again. The police cars so they dog canaan bridge. Because i said he had sustained no injuries. But like what does that just. The dog scares enough to car. He got a bit. He got injury. Yeah they were trying to restrain him and it got a little crazy. I know you. Don't expect that. From richard sherman. It's of sad hopefully. He gets help that he needs. But as a free agent. I think that what do you call trigger. Is that like you might be the end of the career and you kind of dealing with that sad stuff. yeah anyway. Shambo hates his driver. I actually got a theory about this but So shambo just recently qualified for the olympics in hypothetically olympic athletes right they are under much heavier drug testing protocol. So let's say you're in the drug testing window your athlete. Hypothetically you're not putting the drug testing window you have to stop taking. Pd's if you were before and let's say you That affects your strength. Agility all that kind of stuff But yeah that would dwindle once testing started but anyway bryson's drives were much shorter unrelated related drives completely. Is the there no testing whatsoever in the pga tour. I can't because no who the hell no one ever used. Steroids sure who smoke weed. Golfers do coke like. No one's ever getting kicked off. Confirm say dj. I don't think i don't think. Dj got fully tested. Positive was just like people do coke. If you're on tour everything. Wherever i feel like i know more laws i never had the patience to play a full eighteen holes of golf play golf. I have dr unrelated. I play many golf the inbetween around two next month. Does i play the eighteen. But it is like i think actually said something like this before a fourteen. I usually hit my wallet about fourteen. And then i'll like. I'll hit bullshit balls and i'll drink the last four but i guess maybe i've never kept a scorecard for eighteen. That'd be possible. I would like set the worst record ever for. I really don't think i'd ever got to. I don't i don't think anyone's that surprised by that. Basketball awesome seven and a half and my drive anyway. There's been a bunch of activists in australia during shark week are trying to rebrand shark attacks to shark. Interactions in negative encounters. I maybe we talk about mack. Well oh yeah mac it. Of course kick your summer off in with the brand. That's reinventing men's basics. Mac wellman macworld. And so much more than just underwear. Their full collection includes t shirts polos button up. Shorts pants swims and so much more with light and breathable fabric technology macworld and keeps you cool and comfortable all summer dive into macworld and swim line with trunk and board short options that are quick to dry and have four way stretch fabrics mac. 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There was actually a really bad shot attack in brazil swimmer. The new york post posted a very graphic photo of it. And they're a little hot water. You saw those one where he was. He was face down. It's bad but anyway shark week. I guess that's what you know is just pushing that all the shark contact the can which is living. Let's let's say it's the most overrated week in his most tele television in the hit. It just sounds cool. The shows stake. They're not good. Only most of them are not it should be. I don't know how many hours a week but the entire every hour to just be starts eating things. It was ten years ago when i was in middle. Earth came out. I remember was in like middle schools. Holy shit like it's shark week now. I can't believe this just go forever. It's the shark big for the mega. Don documentary was pretty cool a couple years ago. The documentary thing. I saw make good on movie with jason statham. And i tell you. I bet that one was better than the documentary. Yeah we'll do what's called. The meg is is is it true. Gets these new documentary can talk to a real shark. Is it true that at the bottom of the ocean. There's a layer of gas that really keeps prehistoric creatures down there that they cancer because the water temperature changes when they go above it. But the meg breaks through me. Tell you what this hurt. He thinks the biggest seen way bigger bigger. He's a huge huge shock. And jason. st louis got to fight him. It's a real journey. Jason statham is convinced at this point that he is like a hero. Like he's like an action here. I look up. The shark is oh my god. It's gem do yes. I think he does so many roles like that or i think start to be convinced like i really am the transporter. Whatever the art for this. The magazine jaw georgia's big. Holy shit homeboy. Who's the horrible horrible sharp sharp. Nato short years remember like early internet days short. it'll one when that came out which is Let's call it six seven years ago. Probably but all. I think mainly because you're on the second one was the big one no verse. One was the big one. The first everywhere live tweeted. I think we've probably one hundred times. The first one was massive. They're probably four five six now but the first one was that was. that was an event. Everyone in there was a guy with a chainsaw. What's his name from nine. Oh two one oh. Don't remember but the blonde one. The ones dot. Brian austin green land. That new york post post was like the worst shark. Everyone's like. I just want to see someone actually attacked by shark like pf permanently. It was like we. Just wanna i wanna see someone actually get eaten by a shark and then the next day say i've seen seal get eaten by a shark is not it is yeah. It was not good on the shore. There's like a seal beach on the venue like up in lake or something like that. Forget where it is and it's just like like just known as under seal their and it was like it's pretty violent with no no no. I wasn't so but it's it's pretty. Read your cash. marie feeling. I like seals. I i think think they're kind of digit route. Like i think. I think they'll fucking bike or seasons very different. Okay see line. She'll there you'll see like more. I guess they look very different. Sized little fatter. I guess almost go wars. Now look up to see line. Yes line see line are huge. I like sea lions. Like i guess they're all of the same family. Yeah see autre seal sea lion. Let's see a sea lion now. What are we seeing the little the little one crazy you. Don't they nature a hedgehog. Those things they like do terrible things to each other. They like kill each other like really really do. Yeah layaway last hour for today. Brazil's president has had hiccups for ten days. And he's in hospital for this is what's the name bowling bowl or something like that. I think the. I remember as a kid. I was told like everyone's been told him. Plenty of horror stories. And things like that and i had to that stuck with me forever. One is that pirates. Blow the candles out below deck when they ate sleep wouldn't see all the maggots crawling on their food. And so i cannot eat in the dark at all anymore. I have to have. It doesn't matter it's been like seven years old. I have to have a well. I like a well liberal. People you know. Some people like sneak. Food into movie theaters can agree a little popcorn candy. Don't get me wrong. But i couldn't eat food food in talk he'd live in kevin's told sneaking taco bell and they they sell If you buy a hotdog in a movie theater here. They're quite good the i. I don't think i've ever besides movie theaters eating in the dark. Nice restaurant sometimes. it's a little dimly lit. Even that that borders on white horse tavern in newport. Too dark for me was my so hiccups was a kid who had the hiccups for like seventeen years and i was like if that ever happened. I kill myself. There's very few things compared to rumors things. I've heard before the longest sixty eight years. So maybe the one i heard. Yeah there's very few things were a lot of times. You guys kiss your pathetic fools like this or dot or just show and i almost always choose life and i just don't wanna die. It was permanent hiccups or death and got tuesday. One thing. i don't think put coley coley has like a deaf like a defacto care to go. He wants a little more complicated. one time. I called coli. And a yankee games had hiccups. And i'll just like dying and he likes walked me through and got swallowing. Yeah it's like swallowing holding breath through certain. God it and i need into just wall. See i have. This has worked for me ever since learned in fifth grade science. Mr gallic got a couple of water. Fill it up put paper towel or napkin over at something like doughty material a cover it and then just chug the water like through the napkin and it just gets rid of it. That's a good one too now. I don't know. I don't know how it works. I don't know how done but that one is pretty undefeated for me. I drink water. And then put my head towards the floor and try to swallow it upwards. But that wasn't working at the game. So i was gonna say fuck. I had some then. But it's kind of threw me off Gers is a hiccup kind of more of a childhood thing. I don't think i'd get hit. I remember all the time. I never got gotten them but i don't think i'd get them as often as adults. It's getting the wind knocked out of the grow on. I don't do stuff that gives me that anymore. When you're drinking like eating a ton of food. I do both those things pretty often. Sometimes i'll wake up in the middle of the night with hiccups like how's that one really possible for it. No i'm not for its. Yeah anyways topics around that showtime his apartment situation. Yeah i mean spider. I love my one of my friends from home to We live in like thirty. Four building were up on giving exact things. But we're sizably your doubled. Your tigers scared. Give your address of a building in manhattan. Will people have put together. The building like videos. I've done and stuff. I would rather not never the floor. Yes we have a good well. You don't know what the problem is. Yeah he needs help. People get well. I think it's people in the building gotten like. Oh i live in this bill you. I had it happen once in my old building. Where kid came down because he was drunk. You shit after a pats bills game and he was in a bills jersey knocked on the door and he handed me a note and i opened it and read. It was like hey fights big fan but he was. He stood there while iraq did days man and he's a gig any like started walking into my apartment and i was like. Oh what's up and he's like is one. I feel a bit. just talk about the game. And that's i and luckily someone had just asked him to dinner. And i was like i'm just going to the door to dinner and i went out in the clothes i was wearing because i sat there alone for an alley. Didn't it wasn't for many hours. And i was just like i'm just. I didn't want to be rude but it's also not rude but for some reason person until the walk out of my house scenario so We've two years and they're already sizable wines. As well. but like it's not always instant that was actually one of the things when we first looked at the apartment takes a little bit for these elevator and we got an email. the other day was casualty. What we're doing some elevator renovations the i. It's like cool. Whatever you make them see make them more. Modern can't take too long and then they just casually dropped their like. It's going to be twenty three weeks for one elevator. Twenty three weeks for another. That's just a year as full fucking ear. We're only have one elevator for thirty four's of people when there's already crafts and the people people on twitter. Whatever here the stairs you lazy. What part of thirty four. What do you want people to twenty four th florida does this track to work every day to home home. It's like you can't be physically. Can't be an i in that same apartment was talking about the only had one elevators old school one and on third floor but i think it was twelve four building and there was like a three month stretch with the elevator and work and i was like as if i came home and live on the twelfth floor. Whatever the highest floors maybe it was nine I think that's a league. I thought anything about six four you have to have. I mean there was technically an elevated. just wasn't it was not have free rent for i. I would be like. I would come in if people one time i walked in and the elevator wasn't working through twelfth floor. I would look at it and go well like i just live somewhere else. I'm not getting. I'd rather that stuff is staying up there. I'm never gonna get that like that's it. I'm just walk out the door and never come back into that building block. I was research gone. Not searched by. Your side has really really high A nasty now bishop in which he made zero. The right yeah. We didn't he made new and he was he was he was like i found out about this. Because we got an email but spider wasn't on the mailing list so he he linked to my tweet was. I shouldn't finding out about this via twitter. Put me add any mailing list. He's like this is unacceptable. You have because right now. Also we have our hallways getting redone so it looks like a trap house. They're getting torn apart. Our basketball court refresh which was supposed to take three days has been almost three weeks now at this point in pry basketball appointing season. There's just not a walkway outside under construction. I was supposed to be done in april ninth. That's july fifteen. So everything i i. I'll email but we live in a construction zone. This is crazy like a core shoehorned. in there i'd stick to like no elevator for an apartment. It's still everything in just everything you've got contract go one at a time. I wanna make more amenities but guess what that's just going to be for future events. You could raise the rent for them. It's a slap in the face to the carpio signed before we knew that all of this was going to happen so spider and his email. I said hi. Nicole will caller for this story. Is it true that are building will be without an elevator for twenty three all caps twenty three weeks. I linked tommy's tweet. I said how is this even possible. Can you please ask me whatever. Mailing list is distributing this news. I appreciate blank making an effort to inform everyone of the hallway upgrades with the massive in your face signs as you walk into each building but it would. It would be great if you had that same energy. I imagine it's a significant safety risk as well as a tremendous inconvenience for all residents especially those that just signed onto the last few months as we did knowing now we only have one elevator to use for thirty floors of residents for the next forty. Six weeks aka. The duration of our lease would have one hundred percent benefactor in our decision to sign on for another year. For that reason. It's hard not to feel slighted. I can't see a world in which i don't actively trash blank. I'm not gonna name them yet. First time real names with henry opportunity. If this isn't resolved in an acceptable way please add this email to all building. Mailing lists and share my thoughts with steve who's our regional manager and the rest of your colleagues should not be finding out about this via twitter own spider. Am emeka response until like the next night and the guy like well. You unsubscribe you back on and that was the only completely focused on the fucking best move you reply to the. Oh yeah no. I emailed him today. The the guy and was like it's crazy that we're living in a construction zone. I listed everything. I just listed. I was like. I would like this to be compensated with at least a free month's rent or some sort of monetary compensation like how could you living here at anybody else and now now to waiting. Shoot three months free. We read combat two and a half re-sign so we'll see. I think give us a year free rent and they want us to be like a propaganda machine. Our the fucking like these are necessary renovations. Hope everybody who lives here so seven in the morning. They're out here with him. Yeah you want to. If you don't have to wait for an elevator. So i bought like salary now if you deem living. It's been named or every that's like they. They control a few different complexes. So but if you want to buy me being living i will be. Beam beam living influence the building management team. Or just the they are they control. I don't know realtors know. We're we're barking up the right tree. And what's crazy. Is we have a new regional general manager name. We'll just say name. Steve added this name though. We really joking around like me and my roommates. Because like i was doing in the hallway renovation is going to look a lot nicer and like we have like ice cream social they had barbecue and like the courtyards grills and stuff. It's like i'll die for steve. We wanted to show up to events. It'd be like bring like pictures. You guys here to meet steve. Treat him to get autographs. Like steve like. We love your work like building. We moved here on these. You change jobs and now now i wanna hang fire steve. How want steve was lubin. You up good. Steve's approval ratings would have been at ninety five percent a few weeks ago and now there are like fifteen news with the barbecues and boom. I mean we got a pretty good email top ten rooftop bars in new york city all email. Hobart high bookmark. But you can't be doing that a day after you run. I watch like that for the most part. You guys have been all right and what the elevator thing. It's it's unacceptable. But once again. I can be well anymore. Cartwheel's is running game. Does my life all right. They shop billy. Hey great word work on the transition throw it.

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Episode 3-12-- Listen to the trees they can testify too.

Five four two and the Blue

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Episode 3-12-- Listen to the trees they can testify too.

"Three to one. You have discovered the five four to the blue podcast. Discussions of law enforcement history issues and incidents in the Appalachian Mountains and beyond hosted by Scott Lunceford, retired police, detective, Sergeant, author, and researcher background theme, hard-boiled by Kevin McDonald used with permission. This is Victoria. Producer and technician for five four, two in the blue three to one Scott. We are recording. You can start now. Thank you for the introduction? Victoria Victoria's is handling our production as well as our technical work on the show this coming week. also want to thank I. Guess Victoria it might be some of your family. Our podcast listeners and An England the numbers have literally doubled in the last three days, and hoping that's because people are interested in it and. Although I had one person told me that was probably so they can laugh at the. The funny man in North Carolina. Who has the unusual voice? Either way. We hope they are entertained with the information. Today, we're GonNa talk about a hundred from nineteen eighty. The case is interesting because of its use of forensic evidence collection and the interpretation of that evidence collection. Back in nineteen, eighty and I. Wouldn't have wouldn't have thought about this being a possibility, but when you hear the science of it, it is just. Mix makes, perfect sense. The shade of Blue Store today starts with the grabble family. They were easily one of the wealthier families in. Marshall Illinois small farming town near the Indiana state border. Charlotte grabble had obtained. Most of the finances for the family in a very large inheritance from her parents. Now when Charlotte was fifteen. She went out on a date with a nineteen year old gentleman by the name of Fred and I use gentlemen very loosely. And Fred. During the state! Raped her. This is according to interview with Charlotte's daughter, Janine. That she gave a radio show interview in Twenty fifteen. Charlotte became pregnant from this attack. Now this was nineteen, fifty seven long before anyone had heard of the concept of date rape. And Charlotte with no female female role models per se to guide her. Probably didn't know what else to do, but marry the man who had impregnated her. Now both Charlotte and her husband, Fred or now. Married and they were both very hard workers. Fred was a very sharp businessman farmer. They both worked very hard on the F- on a farm of. And Corn and turned it into a very major success. Now when you have worked in police and fire ems situations for a while you stop saying now. I've seen everything. And many people also think that their family is. Difficult they may think that. Situations only happen to my family, but really and truly. A lot of Similar thing happen to families. There is always someone in worse shape than you are somewhere. When you see something, bad war deal with something bad is a law, enforcement, officer or EMT or first responder. You know that there will be something worse or stranger coming down the road later. Gamble family was no different. Your life was far from perfect. They had two children. If issues. Come up between their parents. The children usually took the mother Charlotte side. Fred and Charlotte had been married for twenty three years a time. Violence Dismiss domestic stress. At times the two divorced once, but they later ended up remarrying. Second. Marriage seemed to be headed in the same direction to. Fred himself was a very big man over six foot four while his wife. Charlotte was actually quite small. Fed was known to use his fist on his wife. During, their heated arguments tread had no problem using his fist and. Actually on not only on his wife, but on his son Jeff. At one point had gotten so bad that the mother told her children come looking for her if she did not return from work in the fields at at the regular time. Fred was known to be a womanizer. And the age of forty two years old. He did like the company of younger ladies. Now at this time Fred was seeing twenty-four-year-old curly hair blonde. Bartender by the name of Vicky mcallister. Didn't take long for the wife to learn of the husbands current infidelity. And, Charlotte apparently had enough that and filed for divorce. Fred moved out of the House. But didn't go far. He went into a cabin that was also on the other end of the farm. Jeff. and. His wife at the time moved into the Family House with her mother Charlotte. Order to help keep. Thank is on things and help with the farm. With Fred living on the farm still. Ended up going out to the cabinet, he was occupying to recover some items or pickups, and things and Fred assaulted her in. She was able to secure charges against him for that. Later! On July Twenty Fourth Nineteen eighty-one. When? Their mom did not return from the house after working on the farm, fighting the tractor in the field or Doing whatever working to be done? Now Grown Children Jeff. Janine knew something was wrong. Charlotte had taken the tractor to work on the soybean field. But did not return that the time frame. She normally would have or that. They were expecting her. Tractor was found in a building on the Farm Charlotte was nowhere to be found. Charlotte was reported the sheriff's department as a missing person. And of course Fred was questioned admitted to a fight with her. Saying the last time he saw her though she was driving her car towards the interstate. Now Charlotte's car was actually later found in Tara. Who Indiana across the state line. A search found no blood. Or other evidence in the car, but they did find a loaded handgun under the seat. Further investigation did find that a friend of Charlotte's reported to the sheriff's Office. she did see Fred driving his truck. Down the interstate towards Tara, who with some one following him in Charlotte's car? Somebody other than Charlotte. They claimed it was a young blonde woman with curly hair. Sounds familiar right. Notes were discovered in a safety deposit box the local bank that had been placed there by Charlotte ten days before she went missing. She wrote that she thought Fred was stealing equipment and that she didn't think she would live. She was afraid of Fred and his business partner A. Dale Kessler. Win? A Dale Kessler claim fed was with him on that evening, Charlotte went missing. The sheriff brought Fred and Vicky mcallister before the grand jury, but they both pled the fifth. Fred's daughter even requested is her father. Take a polygraph test where lie detector tests prove. He hadn't killed his mother. And Fred refused to do so which was his right. The investigation went cold for three years. the daughter and her husband offer one thousand dollar reward for information. No results were obtained. Nothing was turned up. It was raged later to ten thousand dollars. And then again to twenty five. Thousand dollars, but no usual evidence for information was ever submitted returned in. At one point, daughter hired me private investigator Mr. Charles Pearson The private investigator. Started the investigation over. The beginning. He looking. He decided to look at the curly haired Blonde Woman that was seen. Driving Charlotte's car. and. It didn't take him much time to determine that the woman were driving. The car was of course Vicky mcallister. Fred's current girlfriend at that time. Now Vicky was no longer Fred's girlfriend and now was living in another location in another state. After some. Checking around the detective found that Vicky liked to things to drink beer and play pool. Now this gave the detective new starting point, and he began hanging out in the bars in the area where he believes she had relocated to drinking beer and playing pool himself in order to establish a friendship with her, or at least not be obvious. That he was looking around for her. That's a hard job. Those life of the private investigators have. But it did pay off time. The private investigator later. To her who he was after making contact and why he had befriended her. Apparently having someone to talk to about trauma, she had been dealing with in this situation. Now she couldn't help herself and developed an almost verbal diarrhea so to speak. Now being finally able to get the matter offer conscience. The information literally just poured out from her. Apparently needing to get it off her chest. The secret she had been holding all these years was destroying her from the inside, and she was more than willing to come clean on it. mcallister admitted she was driving the Charlotte's car that day. She went on to relay details of what had happened that day and the days afterwards. In Vicki mcallister's retelling of the instant. Each time she did make her physically ill at every time she told it. Yet she still is determined now to get the facts out into the world. She will eventually tell investigators, prosecutors and two different courtrooms of people juries. Not to mention a grand jury panel? McAlister said by the day in question she was with Fred Gamble in the shed, the tractor was later found in. They went there to get some fifty five gallon metal barrels for the farm. Once they got the barrels. They heard Charlotte pull up on the tractor. Fred told Vickie to hide in the shed. Fred went out to meet Charlotte and got into an argument with her. It escalated and moved inside. At one point in angry rage, according to mcallister Fred began strangling her. He choked her out. Releasing her to regain consciousness than choked her out again. He did this several times. Until she died. After killing her, Fred sexually assaulted her lifeless body in front of his current girlfriend Vicky. Using a grease gun from the shed, even filled all her orifices with Greece. Finally shoving her body into one of the fifty five gallon barrels and loading it. The barrel into the back of his pickup truck. Getting instructions. From Fred. Vicki drove Charlotte's car. In followed him. The state lines to Indiana where they left Charlotte's four ltd at a bar parking, lot and Tara. WHO'd Indiana coming back to the farm? The to took the body to a spot on the river that ran through the farm. Taking the barrel from his truck Fred put it under a maple tree on the riverbank. Poor, diesel fuel into the barrel. And then set. It on fire. Finicky and fred sat on the riverbank while the barrel bird watched. The diesel fuel, and in Greece inside Charlotte's body burns slowly all night long. The next morning hearing the search party looking for Charlotte. They put out the fire and loaded the barrel back into the truck. And went on Vicki House. Once, it turned dark. The duo returned to the same place at the river. Put the barrel back in the same spot under that maple tree. Poured more diesel fuel in and Realit-, the fire. In burn the barrel akin all night long. In the morning, federal the barrel into the river. And the only body part remaining was Charlotte skull. Now. That's according to Vicki's testimony. Later, she testified the fact that Fred said. This will make good fish bait and through the skull into the river. Even with Vicky Shelf incriminating, confession. Prosecutors needed physical evidence to charge Fred. They had no body, no barrel and no word murder weapon. Searching! The river. turned up nothing. But that wasn't surprising. Considering the river had had a couple of floods since then anything that might have been in the river was washed down to Lord knows where. Farther downstream and again they had no body had no barrel, no murder weapon. Investigators wanted and more besides just thicky mcallister's confession statements against Fred. Officially Charlotte was still just a missing person. Now at this time, there was a new sheriff in Clark County. Where the crime occurred. And after reviewing everything, the investigation and prosecution had. He was curious as if the maple tree. that. The barrel was burned underneath. That was still standing and still founded. The burnside on the river could be used as evidence. Of contact in the University of Illinois for. A plant biologist by the name of Eugene Heimlich in an organic chemist by the name of Donald dickerson responded to his request for assistance. They came out. And the tree experts explained to the share of the natural life cycle of a tree. The season's will cause a tree to grow in the spring and summer than go dormant in the winter. We all remember that from elementary school physical science. The process each year creates the ring pattern in the trunk in the branches of every tree. The rings we are told from childhood can show just how old that Tree Years Bhai counting the rings. Also a ring in the trees branch will show the growth of that year. Fuel is highly toxic to a tree, and if it doesn't kill the tree, it will at the very least hamper its growth. The professors took samples from the branches of the Maple Tree. And core samples as well from the tree. Their findings concluded that three rings deep meaning three years ago, the growth of the tree was much thinner. The tree had gone through some sort of stress that summer that Charlotte went missing. Then they took the samples. Chop them up very finely. Ground Them Up. That evidence. was analyzed using a gas chromatograph Mass Spectrometer. If you are an NCAA I s TV show fan. You know that all at parties. The forensic technician in that show. Called that particular device her major mass spectrometer. And used it quite often. And those devices have been around for quite a while, and they have just refined over the years. But a mass spectrometer identifies the compound. Sample. Even in very very small amounts now in their analysts. In their analysis of the collected evidence, they found the presence of diesel hydrocarbons. A total of five branches were tested. The two branches located on the side of the tree that the barrel was on in the barrel was burned, showed the hydrocarbons in. The would. The other three. Lambs which were taken from a sample from the opposite side. Did Not show. Any carbon. Or hydrocarbons from the diesel fuel, neither did in a sample of any of the other trees close to their. That indicated that a barrel of diesel was burned. The fat tree where mcallister. said it was and confirming at least part of her story. Now the evidence forensic evidence. Once, it was explained to the court. And admitted into evidence was enough to convict for at. One of the prosecutors in the trial was a Robert Egan of Chicago who had come down. The prosecutor of John Wayne Casey's matter of fact, serial killer convicted for the murderers of thirty three young men in nineteen eighty few years before. Fred Gamble was found guilty of first degree murder and sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Normally that's the end of the story. But it doesn't end here. During the trial, Fred had the support of his. Latest girlfriend a Barbara Graham a twice divorced mother of three. I'm Fred brought her a mink coat. Allegedly from insurance he received. That, she wore into the courthouse during the trial specifically to torment Charlotte's family. Now win. mcallister once more, the old girlfriend testified. She stated that Charlotte wasn't Fred's first homicidal homicide victim. He had told her that. At the age of fourteen, he had murdered someone for killing his dog. And later had killed two women over a union dispute. All this is according to court. Documents. and. Transcripts at the time. Also? Later in nineteen, eighty six, the second trial, his daughter Janine would later say that as a child she had witnessed Fred. Kill a man after a bar fight. Don't have any more specifics on that information, Janine. The time of the first trial wasn't ready to reveal. All of the information. That, she had in the truth about her father. A for example like the fact that he had numerous illegitimate children, he refused port. She said. This information came up later at the second trial and. Also later during interviews with family. Jeff Son also testified about the physical abuse of Fred that hit been afflicted upon family members, and said that Fred threatened or hurt him. Feed didn't clam up about his mother's disappearance. Fred had a lot more things to atone for than either of the juries at ever heard. Coping with trauma by the time Janine was five. Fred had begun sexually abusing her. According to her interview on Stop Child Abuse. A show hosted a narrow rated by William Bill Murray third. If you. are a fan of old Sifi. You'll know that is will Robinson. From last in space. He was on the original losses based TV show. He survived molestation while attending a Catholic school and went on to found the National Association of Adult Survivors of child abuse in California. Janine. told. Quote disassociate myself I would count tiles on the ceiling. She said sometimes I didn't remember some of the things until way much later. Janine also said that she took comfort from playing music in having dogs and horses growing up. She was also very popular school and the cat and her classmates at elected her to homecoming Queens court. and. She was very popular when she sang at school. and. Most friends had no idea. The upbeat girl was living in A. Terrible terrible situation at home. Janine is now married and has five children. She said she ultimately found peace and healing with the help of a local Christian group that she belongs to. A few weeks after Fred's conviction. He was being held in Clark County jail. When his current girlfriend Barbara Graham attempted to break came out. Barbara showed up the jail untold a deputy. She wanted to give Fred a love note. This was before he was sent to date present. When the cell door opened, she pulled out a pistol and fired five shots one even deputy in the leg. Then telling him I. Don't don't make me kill you. As I'm sure you guessed this did not go well. She never made it out of the cell area in the jail. The instant probably did cause some changes to paint inmate visitation policies, but other than that it didn't accomplish anything other than getting her convicted for attempted breakout and was given sixteen years in prison. Now the judge yet, originally sentenced Fred to prison, was convinced that Fred had somehow planned breakout attempt from behind. Now just two months later with Fred still in prison. Though grabble house. And the home of Fred Sun, which was built nearby. Both burned down to the ground. Arson investigators were sure both fires were intentionally set. But. No one was charged with the arson. Of course. Without question, police suspected that Fred has something to do with it, but they just couldn't prove it either way. Fred's lawyers after the first conviction did file an appeal and after much. Review by higher courts. The appeal was upheld and the verdict was. To be thrown out on a technicality. By this time, Vicky mcallister had moved away. and was living under another name hiding from from Fred because she was. Concerned about his wrath. The reach that he appeared to have even beyond the prison walls. Be that may, she did come back to Clark County and did testify again against Fred. One more time in the second trial. Another incident a month before the second trial occurred, that should be noted this one made several wonder if somehow from custody Fred had reached out and struck again. Fred Son Jeff, who had testified the first trial. Disappeared! No contact with anyone in the family. He just vanished. Now he was on a business trip to California, when this occurred. Nobody had heard from him. Nobody knew where he bed. It, would he just vanished? And when it came for the second trial, Jeff couldn't be found. The judge allowed his wife Cindy to testify in his absence. This was under the objections of course of the defense. But the testimony was somewhat limited as it was mostly secondhand information that she had as far as what Jeff would have could have testified to. She was only allowed of course to testify to what she had to acknowledge of. Even. Though Jeff did not testify, Fred was again convicted. and. He was sentenced to seventy five years in prison. One month after the trial had been over, and the Fred had been sentenced to and transferred to state prison, just body washed up on the shore of Seal Beach and California. With bullet wounds to the head and chest, an anger have been tied to him to keep the body down until. For whatever region didn't anymore and it washed ashore? A Nineteen eighty-eight newspaper article said that the police believed that Fred Somehow ordered the torching of his son's house while he was in jail. And that there was some sort of connection to. His son's disappearance thought there was a common. Connection of revenge somewhere in there. Fred denied having anything to do with his sons, murder or the arson of the homes, Vicky, mcallister ended up receiving the two five thousand dollar reward. That gene and her husband had offered. She was relocated under another name. As I understand it. She's still alive in fear. That Fred will somehow find her from behind bars. Now in yet another strange twist to this family story. Years later in twenty fourteen. Fred's grandson Adam. was indicted on weapons and immigration charges. In Israel He was suspected of impersonating a navy seal. And, plotting a bombing attack on several Islamic locations in Israel, including the Dome of the Rock. An iconic mosque in Israel and other historic sites in Israel. The Sheehan, bet or Israel security agency and the Israeli police said Adam was arrested in November. Nineteen th two thousand fourteen. After! He acquired the explosives and other weapons as part of the failed bomb attempt that he was working. On. Adam was diagnosed as being psychotic. Your thank. And unfit to stand trial. He was held in a mental institution in Israel for a little over a year before he was released back to the United States. Where he faced charges in Illinois and Texas on Larceny and drug charges. Police said, he acquired the weapons from a roommate who had actually served in the idea. The? Israeli defence. Force that he spoke openly about his negative feelings towards Arab and a desire to damage Islamic sites. Now, he's also Adam. is also the half brother of Laura George. Who is married to a gentleman by the name of Tony George the President and CEO of the Indianapolis Motor speedway and founder of the Indy Racing League. Connections, everything seems to be connected anymore. The world is getting. Smaller. But going back to Fred. And his incarceration. As of twenty twenty. Fred is eighty one years old. He has inmate in five, seven, nine, four one. At the. Correctional, center in Illinois. According to the Illinois Department of Corrections, he has shot parole on October twenty second. Twenty twenty two. But he set to be released anyway on a projected date of. October seventeenth, twenty twenty-five, which will make him eighty six years old when he gets out of prison. In two years from now twenty twenty two. Let's hope that enough parole. That enough people sending letters, thoughts and prayers in whatever it takes to keep Fred behind bars until he has to answer to a much higher court. Perhaps Lady Karma and her sister Lady Luck Mike side to take the case ver- in under advisement from their third sister. Lady Justice. And See, Fred. Stay where he needs to till he is called to that higher court. Well. That's our shade of Blue Story. I hope you find. It found it interesting. I'd the doing the research for it. I did thank you for listening. If you'd like more information on other podcast on five, four, two in the blue or information on my books, you can go to Scott lunch. 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045  Bodyboarder Slater Thompson

The Coastal Athlete Program

31:02 min | 2 years ago

045 Bodyboarder Slater Thompson

"Welcome to the coastal athlete program, presented by apex, predator athletic trainer bay survived tomorrow. Now live shores Monterey Bay. Here's your host. Welcome back to the coastal athlete program. I am your host ship today. I am joined in-studio by one, the only DJ peanut butter and pickles. Aig AD, J doubles, aka DJ, delicate, a k a the blonde beauty dancer cruise. I'm not being on my new family ones. Ladies and gentlemen, the anyway, welcome back. Thank you. And of course, we have a very special guest today. We are joined remotely by the powers of the internet, and the ghost of sif jobs by the one. The only the intolerable Slater, Tom says, slayer, welcome to the show. Thank you. Good morning jet. Komo Danny, or Digital's peanut butter. So it's just as quick, it is chef. S C, H O, check got. Yeah. I understand that you live in Orange County chat is probably fairly common name there. Yeah, man. I knew a lot of jets when I lived down there, so cool. So we're joined by Slater Thompson. Slater is a body Borer in all around ocean bad ass. Currently living in beautiful Orange County, California. I believe you said in corona del mar, right? No hunting speech you living beach. I'm sorry, man. I'm all scrambled up on this mosque ramble so you live in HP. I used to live in HP. I don't think I told you this. But if you guys have ever if our listeners have ever been Huntington beach, and you're going up main street away from the water, right? The road slightly banks to the left as it heads towards Huntington beach high. There are these old yellow mining shacks that have giant Redwood tree out in front. And they were shacks that were like used for the oil miners, back in the day in Orange County and I lived in one of those for a little bit. It's like a little flop hats, but it was like, if I remember correctly forty pushes on my skateboard away from the waters. Edge. So is pretty sweet spot. I actually used to work in downtown downtown Huntington beach at Jax, ur, shop, I worked in the garage back in the day, so Slater you live in Huntington. H behi-. I do not I go to charter school called features academy. Nice and Slater comedy. I for a couple of reasons. First of all, this is the reason asked him on the show. You had the girl greatest way of asking your high school, lady friend to prom. How did you do that? How band so at my body word, which is a Hubbard Iran for that, and take a piece of poster paper to the bottom, and then I wrote on it, her name's Kylie, Kylie, will you paddle your way to problem with me? So I don't have to be there alone. As, as a writer, as a lover of puns, that was like there is hope for the future generation, you know what I'm saying? We understand that you guys get a lot of crap for, you know jewels and, and all the hipster stop. Let me tell you keep punting like that. We're going to be all right in this country, we're going to be all right. So just to back up a little bit like now that we've gotten that out of way. Tell me a little bit about who you ride for first, and then I wanna I wanna kinda get to why we had you on the shell shirt. So I ride for upwards body boards, and body, boarding a body workshop that's an Yvonne reporting online. Right. He bodyboarding dot com. Yes, they're online, mostly. They also have warehouse location that like is open to the public. But for the most part channel warehouse, that's cool. And where is it do you know where they lifted? Yes. In committee, seeing for many have you ever been up there? We look the summer, they have like little vents and stuff or demo, days or California, body borders, a meet up and a lot do wanna at street. And so you bodyboarding always right down there, so, like, in terms of bodyboarding, 'cause, you know, normally we've talked to a lot of, by surfers, I'm not want necessarily you call a body border. Because I ride court boards court body boards from California surf craft. But, you know, I do associate quite a bit with the with the bodyboarding lights that what drew you to buy, 'cause it's not exactly. The biggest sport Huntington beach. Yes. So my dad is super avid, surfer, like stand ups or leg regular and he started me out on a surfboard at Blackie's Newport, when I was like two years old and served up until about twelve which is when I started union guards. And I do junior guards in corona del mar maybe that was the misconception. It's what I messed up. Yeah. And. John, that's all shore Bank. So I couldn't really circuit, but they had all these body works. So I just took one of those out and that I've spent love it. Nice nice end. Like, specifically is there anything about bodyboarding you enjoy. 'cause like I for one, I like to explain to people there is nothing quite like falling down the face of a wave head. I like that's my bodyboarding embodies. Awesome, whereas surfing, you're kind of far away from it. You can jump in Vail out like that. I love the commitment factor. Bodyboarding requires, what is it from you? That gets going. Oh, yeah. The job is a big one that for me it's all about airs. 'cause like if you look at a sport like surfing, most of the maneuvers that like AVI drivers doing. They're like turn snaps cutbacks. That's worth thing. You really don't start like getting in the air, unless you're real Dida where someone ribs skill. Yeah. A high level move. Yeah. But for bodyboarding it's all. Based around aerial maneuvers is just so much more, exciting smitty that Dutch keeps me so amped nice filling. If you are not following Slater on Instagram. It's what is at Slater Thomson. Is that later underscore Thompson, Slater underscore Thompson on Instagram? It's a pretty gnarly like concoction of airs that he puts out as well as some pretty sweet terms where do you get your motivation from when it comes to tricks? 'cause like growing up for me as a snowboarder it was guys like Peter line. It was guys like Kevin Jones guys like p Walker. That were really like pushing the sport into these new avenues, whether it be gybing or big mountain writing, or like really aggressively attacking like inversions in a in, in different types of light movements in the air who is it for you that really gets you there with bodyboarding? Oh my gosh. Just Hubbard handout, so critical story about him last year. Twenty eighteen. Yvonne, Gordon could on the first tabby to tour which was vacation where like a surf chip to tout Rua for body orders. And they had just Hubbard come as the celebrity guest, and I remember what he walked into, like the hotel where all hanging out like I have never been starstruck before. But I was like holy shit is Jeff Hubbard and spent the week, just watching him in the water is just mind boggling vase that he can do. And in the situations that he can do them in that he never ceases to amaze me with his writing million style. Nice. Is there any like appear that you have like a contemporary that you feel like really pushing in the water? I'll, yes I've, like one of my best friends. His name's Ethan everhart. He's big in the surface Agassi. So we can have a good thing, back and forth, where he shoots nicer and that goes, really well, then he's also always Jeremy on is really. A good friend. I I'm sure that you guys both have very appropriate him and break relationships with your significant others. But I just wanna let you know, like a body border Affreux tog referred, if you guys ever decide to like move to Hawaii or something. That would be really great reality show. I definitely I definitely pay the that I feel like you'd be fairly popular with, with the young ladies of, of the world, like, oh, I do the tricks, and he films them. I'm the artist. He's the athlete like. Living. Great idea so Slater, like when it comes to like dieting, and getting still for I ride a lot with Joe who's, who's my buddy and people who listen to the show Joe's been on countless times. And, you know, he's he really is the he really is. Like, if you're in the San Diego area, you got you to yourself to try and get out in the water, Joe because he's such a positive experience so much fun like I like writing with Joe because Joe has his style, and I have my style and that way we never collide Jozo is going for like the nice long big beautiful line. And I'm the guy who's, like I want the steepest drop like I don't care if it's a one point three second ride like I want to ride the people on the beach like what the fuck was. I think you know what I'm saying. So, like, what is it for you? What kind of do you have once you get into away? Do you feel like it is expression for you? Oh, yes, I highly special for me on a C like my whole life kind revolves around. Bodyboarding and being in the shit, and it always has always been, I was raised outlet and. But for me, I really like the good mix. I liked it goes crazies. I have when one of the conditions are crazy. But when I have an opportunity to get a really good long ride maybe get some combo maneuvers in a really love that too. So depends on like where I'm at what the waves are doing. Like, for example, if I were to go to restaurants in Fiji, which I have like one of my favorite spots that lives super super long barely refrain. And there, you counted so fast you almost can't really do maneuvers. Since kinda just outrunning you the whole time, but it's insane. Insanely good barrel at you can just sit in the barrel for so long. But then if I were to go to let's say seal beach pier on a big sweltering the winner, you get really steep drop. And then you got a raise it straight to the ramp in his Lord's pull into a big barrel. And so it's kinda different for me just based on where I am, with laser them. Nice nice. I, I guess I probably should have opened the show with a slayer. How old are you? I'm seventy so like it sounds like you're saying you're throwing things out there like Fiji and, and some pretty big name spots how how many days per year. Do you ride in? Are you would you consider yourself on track to becoming a professional body border? So it is a year. So there's like three hundred sixty five days. Lee year, right? Probably like three hundred seventy as I'm writing see right? Just about every single day every day that I can. Yeah, lately, I've been having I have swimmers ear of been out for like two weeks. But yeah. Like back in June. I got a stress fracture in my elf live, while out Auty, boarding, and that was really gnarly. And I was out from that for like eight months, but up until the point that I had been hurt. I was just training so hard and surfing so much that was really on, like a good Jack and then those a little bit of a setback but it's just coming around again, in then just gotta keep going until. What do you do when you're hurt, will you, you can't get in the water is it sounds like it's such a major part of your life. Jadu start to go crazy. It was honestly like so bad, like couldn't really sit, so's just laying in bed all annuals. It was misery. Honestly, I kinda found some peace Mike making stuff. I like to make stuff things work on things that thing also story working on driving. To learn. Yeah, I only got my last two months ago. Are you are you driving on your own yet? Yeah. What are you? All right. What are you rolling up to the surf spot in? I remember the first car. I drove so. I drive a Florida explore. Okay. Okay. Biggles surf cars, grace it, everything in them with boards, all my friends perfect. That's another thing is about by, like you can fit all your stuff in your car, not to deal with strapping into the roof and all that. Diety. What about shaping? Have you ever tried shaping your own stuff or like shaping fins or shaping boards or do pretty much roll with what they give you in terms of hub and what fins are you rocking? So before has writing for hub because I've only been working with them for a little over a year before them. I was constantly experimenting. Everything Philly sins leashes of boards board designs brand, or cores, everything that I could basically think, and where I really got that was my dad because he would do the same thing with surfboards and you would just finally in life investment. He would learn some things about it and I love Audie were much as he loves certain. And so the earlier the same thing ad. So I've kinda like I've got a thing here. Got a little collection here is an old Duffin. And I like if you had used in you know that when your body were in the cow. In the water a lot. So what I did was I trimmed off some of the edges on the rails, if this made it a little bit different design than took out the little w bump in the center. So instead, w comes to the just give it a little different shapes different feel just all sorts of staff, like I have been I like this. On modest collection. There's the, the use fin bucket in frog house. Right. When I was like thirteen frog house in Newport Beach represent. Yeah. When I was like thirteen I was going in there like every weekend we like money, either some chores digging through the use bid box looking for something new to try out and just like I was always looking for the next thing in learning about what, what I had learnt when I found, basically, I have a funny story for about frog house for like, when I learned, how to serve it was like I served on the east coast with my buddies on rescue boards, outed, like, Chatham beach in Wellesley and stuff. But that was like original style serving like surfing, fricken forty pound. Stability board. But when I moved to HP my buddy, Josh or poof, my buddy, Dave, my buddy, Pat, both like decided they were gonna take me surfing. One of the first places they ever took me out to learn was frog house. Right. So like that was one of the first breaks, I ever had to drop in on, like a short board on which was kind of kind of an interesting experience, but on a deeper level the guys at fraud house or super chill living in Huntington, and I had this roommate that a seven six that had a hole in the tip. It had no nose and had a hole in the back. So, like, basically, it just became one waterlogged biscuit almost immediately as soon as you'd like Pat allow we take it out to golden west and I'd like fall off of it and be like just let it die. And I would slim out and save it. So long story short, I go to frog house to look for used board. And they were like, all we have this town and country board from why like you should buy this, this one hundred sixty bucks and really stress. In that one sixty you know what I'm saying? I was like really going back and forth on snowboarder. I wasn't sure if I wanted to invest in that moment I mean I had pro forms like one sixties new snowboard back then, and they were like just take it. And if you're still using it in two weeks pay us. And if you don't just bring it back, how fucking cool is. That's right. Like they were already there Heller ad. So I love for frog. Plus they have deep connections with yoga. Have you ever tried yucca thins out? I was writing through by the time those came around, but I've seen them in shops, for sure. Have checked out there? Thanks, really good balance of designed because they can't take after the viper design. Yeah it a little shorter. So it's a little bit. It's a little bit less like die. Thin more like a bodyguard fit. Let's pressure. Yeah, but at the same time, it's also got stiff rubber in the blade, but extremely offered in the flip. Talk it. And I think that's really good balance of designing tearful yet. Sean Starke is doing some epic epic shit. You know, he lives right down the ninety areas. Well elliott. He rubs secrets black. Yup. Yeah. I had him put some pads, one of my pairs fins wants figures that nice nice. So tell me a little bit about course alike. I'm super interested in potentially getting myself body board because much as I love writing county serve craft in love the sustainability of it like when I when I slam on the deck like my, my serve craft is literally this that, right? It's like three credit cards push together. It's carbon-fiber fiberglass in court, not very forgiving for a bigger guy like me when I come down. So tell me a little bit about what you've learned about co workers. What's the biggest difference out there because we have a lot of listeners that just don't understand this all just C, P P and P and T T, and yada, yada. You know. Oh boy, I could go on all day about board. Course. So, like I've got behind me. These are aboard quad towards right? But they take for this one. They take a regular one point nine density, Polly grant so stiff Polly board, and they cut the Blake like a sandwich read like they cut it long ways. And then they put some this material tension tech in between the two and that sort of like a, a foam, and mesh combination that just makes the board so much more rigid, and then they take the top off of that body board sandwich. And I flip it upside down so that the outer outside edge is accurate or the rigid outside edge is actually against the tensions, and not creates just even more rigid and snappier court. But then at the same time that also makes data lot softer. So it's easier on your body. Yeah. And I, I honestly like. I love it so much. It's, it's, so it's I mean it kind of you need like power to ride it because it is really stiff new said, what type of courses p p yet. So this is there a upwards quad core. But it's best with the famous PP's does that have stringers in it yet, so the rut where the hub edition quad cores rather Siegel stringer than they also have the dovish in which is a job me personally. I don't read that one because apparently writer, but those come with up to like two stringers I believe, and they come in all about two. Hellier stringer. Yes. So stringer is basically of around rod of it could be. It could be any of these materials. I've seen the men out of graphite. I've seen the mid out of garbage climber, and I've seen the may not fiberglass, there's a new technology called I s which is interchangeable stringer system. And I've got an I've not seen the stringers here. Here's a stiff one. This was all carbon-fiber. Here's a medium flex one. This one is like I believe twenty percent carbon fibre twenty percent five at work eighty percent fiberglass, and then the soft flex one, which is just fiberglass. And so we can really give you like a different flex for various based on how stipulate your board the waves Iran also the temperature of the water, you're him because as you go from. When as you go from cold water, warm water. Just take bodywork put in warm water. The song inside the volume of the foam cells Lashley expand. So that makes the board plex here. Or quad core, which is really rigid. Really, really powerful board is really good for more water. I'll take in quad courses Fiji, and Bali. And I've I mean they're just the I mean I've taken everyone they've never had a Brown Claude court. It's extremely stiff is extremely harmful. So when you take some power to loaded up because it is stiff, but once he loaded up it just snaps at it shoots you. It's crazy. Nice. Nice and then feel like ours. Other types, of course, gathers p PP anarchy in P E. So p p is like the high quality foam, it's poly PVC Republic rattle Ohka high quality foam water a stiff that is like the standard for professional body words, then there's anarchy with his Holly pro Crawley Copeland. But it's a softer density, so performs like a flex your board, but it's still waterproof vendors polyethylene, which is P. And that's your cheaper option. That's. That's basically, it's not waterproof. But that would does what you would find in, like a cheaper board. Maybe in the more of a consumer board less of a high performance board. In other words, -actly also guys, like E for colour for cooler waters, like in the UK a lot of urban over the he about this. They like those because real cold over there. So, again, click with the hot water, how mix aboard flex your cold automaker board stiffer? So you do wanna flex your court, colder water power, you, like what's hot water to you. What's an example of water, I live in Monterey Bay like warm water here is like fifty degrees. All my, Josh did like fifty eight baby like Lowe's, these if you're lucky, but like it in the winters, it's actually warmer summers. It's cold out here. You can get down to the low fifties. That's a trip hot water for me is like semi five eighty so. Do you, you just trunk for that right now? What to the just trunk in it? Lest you like the water temperature's like that. That's fiji. So there there's a lot of coral reefs actually every spot is a quote wreath. So I wear a wetsuit top. That's just for reef protection that makes sense. Yeah, just a little little bouncy. So, like, tell me a little bit more. Let's go a little deeper Vince, that you're currently using you said they use a pair of air fans. Right. Isn't actually got feet, inap- hell. It's my guy I have a pair of the red and blue ones. So those are asymmetrical Finn is there a major difference like I'm guessing you have a whole bunch since your sponsor by them? Is there a significant difference in that the stiffness based on the collar, no, I wouldn't say, so I think that there, 'cause I have a bloom black there. And then I have the green glac pair and those, I mean, I've also gone up in sizes since writing for them, and I've never felt variation, they all seem really consistent, which is a good thing because other companies like like Churchill, for example of use those before drying, for hub, sometimes, you'd buy pair and stiff rubber all the way out of the end. So you end up with this really slacks thin, and then I'm end up with like up, you know, basically a concrete sin. And so it's kinda weird. Also, not timespan that I was experimenting with gear. I was also growing constantly so at the same time that I'm trying new stuff. I'm also having to change up sizes. That's gotta be it's gotta be a whole nother challenge. Like, in terms of what FEMA knew pervert is their reasoning prefer asymmetrical fin verse like a matching pair. Yes, there is so Hubbard's makes to fence. They make the air helps in which is there a symmetrical bodyguards thin the straight edge? And then they make the dubs zero thins, and that is there, Johnny said that Hudson. It's a lot longer lot more surface area. It's so as also like a different design as in where they place, the stiffer in the softer, of course. On the air. The flip pocket is soft. The blade stiff on the dubs zero thin. The flip pocket is soft the rails and the base of later stiff with the tip is off. And that just kinda give because it's so short just a little bit more band and that helps you get more power on your kick. Wchs. But for me, I like the as much from what I'm reading crowd. I do have a pair of the zero Vince, and those there for me feel like flip pocket is a little bit different feeling a little bit. Sinner top to bottom. So if it's my little bit better because my feet are really thin, but there is less, you do get less power out of those because you have less surface area also. Of course. They're great for drop me. Good. Sorry. Go ahead. The real similar designed to the to the teams blood cuts slightly different on the flip Hockett, and the drainage holes yet, to sponsors, a couple of body borders around here. Thank you, donate sponsor, the at least the central California by boarding group coordinator did. Slater. Thank you so much for that deep diving detecting giving under questions about by owning tech for move on. Yeah. So the stringer I was like a metal bar, basically, that's inside of the board, carbon, carbon-fiber graphite, or what was the other night, material potty, everything that's literally going straight to the board. Yes. So like if you were to look at the tail aboard there's like a low plug in the middle of it, and you can rule that flip that plug up, put the stringer in, and then it provides a lateral, Irv ochre length, longitudinal stiffness. Sure. Slater, just like me Nate both of us terrible. Can perfectly articulate how this technology it gets back to me. And I'm like plugging thing. Well later did, thank you so much. Jerry questions before we got him one work. When when you say you get air Do you go on other side of the way, would you like give back into continue to ride the wave? Is that even possible? So the best thing section yeses to get up the act completely mid overt 'em continue on the live or continue. Currently Bosh in front of the land in a competition landing behind the way the county still score for it for the maneuver. But it's incomplete. Turn up. All right. Look slater. Thank you so much having coming on. In fact, there's so much. We didn't get to that. Still wanna get you. We'd love to have you back on a second. Time if you if you're available, so, of course, always any, any sponsors that you wanna plug before we cut you out. Yeah. Definitely Hubbard's dated working with Jeff Hubbard Dave Hubbard and of course, their gear I've learned so much from both of them. And from their gear and just I mean, like the birds, I can't even describe them at just have so much fun. When I ride him and just works. And that's really, why support the company I was actually fully. I was actually rowing. Fully decked out hub gear before it was actually work or like sponsored by that's, that's the jet. That's the limit endorsement right there. Like when it's like I already have stuff, cool. We'll just give you money. Call anybody else. Yvonne boarding. Yes. Bodyboarding as well there, the local shop at a San Clemente family on business. The owners are J real in Vicki real. Jay real is the first ever world champion for bodyboarding Vicky rely believes a national women's champion for Australia, and I really look up to her lot. Because when we went to these the first time I on, we've out comback, twelve ten twelve foot, and I catch one with than kick out. Get absolutely throttled by everywhere behind it and freak out scrambling to the boat. I'm like sitting in the boat. Catch my breath. I see Vicki catch an even bigger ways. And that embody NATO close out on the way. And then get hit by more wins than I did, and paddle, right back out like shit if he's doing that. Like she is that's like, seriously, racial. Right. That really made me like you know what actually do this? And I got I got there and I just charged Elia awesome, awesome. So go support Yvonne boarding, though, support goat by hub products on e body organs website, and in the comments mature to tell him that you heard Slater on the coastal athlete program Slater. Thank you so much on behalf of Posey. Dany Slater, and everybody else here. Coast lafley program were out, you.

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045  Bodyboarder Slater Thompson

The Coastal Athlete Program

31:02 min | 2 years ago

045 Bodyboarder Slater Thompson

"Welcome to the Coastal Athlete Program then by Apex Predator Athletic Trainer Today Survive tomorrow now the shores of Monterey Bay. Here's your health sat welcome back to the coastal athlete program. I am your host ship. Today I am joined in-studio by and one the only D._J.. Peanut Butter and Pickles Aka D J Doubles Aka Deejay w. a. a k a the Blonde Beauty Santa Cruz New Fan Ones Ladies and gentlemen the anyway it back thank you and of course we have a very special guest today we are joined remotely by the powers of the Internet and the Ghost of Steve Jobs us by the one the only the indomitable slater. Tom Said slater welcome to the show. Thank you good morning. Good Nordic Danny or digital's peanut butter so just does a quick. It is chef S. C. H.. O. CHECK CHECK GOT it. Yeah I understand that you live in orange. County chat is probably a fairly common name there <hes> yeah man. I knew a lot of chats when I lived down there so so cool so we're by slater. Thompson slater is a body borer in all around ocean bad ass currently living in Beautiful Orange County California. I believe you said in Corona del Mar right <hes> Huntington Beach. Oh you you live in Huntington Beach. I'm sorry man. I'm all scrambled up on this all scramble up so you live in H._p.. I used to live in H._p.. I don't think I told you this but if you guys have ever if our listeners have ever been Huntington beach and you're going up mainstream away from the water right the road slightly banks to the left as it heads towards Huntington beach high there are these old yellow mining shacks tax that have a giant redwood tree out in front and they were shacks that were like used for the oil miners back in the day in Orange County and I lived in one of those for a little bit. It's a little flop hats awesome but it was like if I remember correctly forty pushes on my skateboard away from the water's edge so is a pretty sweet spot. I actually used to work in downtowns <unk> <hes> downtown Huntington Beach at Jax Ur shop. I worked in the garage back in the day so slater. You live in Huntington H._p.. Hi <hes> I do. I'm not I go to a charter school called Academy Nice and slater caught my eye for a couple of reasons first of all. This is the reason we asked him on the show. You had the world's greatest way of asking your high school <hes> lady friend to Prom. How how did you do that how grand so I took my body board which is a Hubbard rancher and take a piece of paper to the bottom and then I wrote on it <hes> her name's Kylie said Chi title? Will you paddle your way to problem with me so I don't have to be there alone. As a as a writer NASA lover of puns that was there is hope for the future generation. You know what I'm saying like. I understand that you guys get a lot of crap for you know the jewels and and all the hipsters stop up. Let me tell you keep putting like that. We're GONNA be alright in this country. We're GONNA be alright so just to back up a little bit like now that we've gotten that out of way. Tell me a little bit about who you ride for first and then I wanna I wanna Kinda. Get to why we had you on the shell you're sure so Iraq for Hubbard's body boards and e Bodyboarding bodyboarding a bodyguard shop nice anybody porting is online right. He bodyboarding DOT com. Yes they're online mostly. They also have a warehouse is location that like is open to the public but for the most Fox Cadillac warehouse that's cool and where is it. Do you know where they elected. Yes in committee seeing alumini sweet. Have you ever been up there. We bring the summer they have like little events and stuff or demo days <hes> <hes> or California body borders Amita and a lot of times. We'll do wanNA t street and so you bodyboarding always right down there so like in terms of bodyboarding bodyboarding. 'cause you know normally we've talked to a lot of body surfers. I'm not necessarily what you call a body border because I ride Cork Boards Court awards from California Surf Craft but you know I I do associate quite a bit with the with the bodyboarding lifestyle. What drew you to bodyboarding 'cause? It's not exactly Zac with biggest sport in Huntington Beach Yes so my dad is super. Avid surfer like stand ups were like regular surfer and he started started me out on a surfboard at Blackie's Newport when I was like two years old and I served up until about twelve which is when I started junior guards and I do junior guards in Corona del Mar.. Maybe that was the misconception now. That's what I messed up yeah and John nance short so I couldn't really circuit but they had all these body works so I just took one of those out and then I found love of it. Nice Nice is unlike specifically. Is there anything about bodyboarding that you enjoy because like I for one. I like to explain to people there's nothing quite like falling down the face of a wave head. I like that's why Bodyboarding by deserving awesome whereas surfing kind of far away from it you can jump in bail out like that. I love commitment factor bodyboarding requires. What is it for you that gets you going? Oh yeah the job is a big one but for me. It's all about Ayers 'cause like if you look at a sport like surfing most of the maneuvers that <hes> like average writers doing they're like turn snaps cutbacks. That's worth thing you you really don't start like getting air unless you're Gabriel Medina where someone ribs skill. It's a high level move yeah but for bodyboarding it's all based around aerial maneuvers and it's just so much more exciting smitty that Dutch excuse me so amped Nice sill like if you guys are not following mm slater on instagram. It's what is at slater. Thompson is that later underscore Thompson slater underscore Thompson on instagram. It's a pretty gnarly early like concoction of airs that he puts out as well as some pretty sweet turns. Where do you get your motivation from? When it comes to tricks 'cause like growing up for me as a snowboarder snowboarder guys like Peter Line? It was guys like Kevin Jones guys like J P Walker that were really like pushing the sport into these new avenues whether therapy gybing or big mountain writing or really aggressively attacking like inversions in a in in different types of movements in the air. Who is it for you? That really gets you there with bodyboarding. Oh my Gosh Jeff Hubbard handout so I'm critical story about him. Last year. Twenty Eighteen <hes> e- bodyboarding bodyboarding put on the first tabby tour which was a vacation where like a surf chip That he never ceases to amazing his writing style Nice. Is there any like peer that you have like a contemporary that you feel like really pushes Jio in the water. I like one of my best friends. His name is Ethan Everhart. He's Big Sur photography so we have have a good thing back and forth where he shoots nicer and decades really well but then he's also always Jamie on. He's a really good friend. I know the I'm sure that you guys both have very appropriate him and break relationships with your significant others but I just want to let you know like a body border and a photographer. If you guys ever decide to like move to Hawaii or something that would be really great reality show I would definitely. I definitely pay to see that. I feel like you'd be fairly popular. Geller with with the young ladies of of the world like Oh. I do the trips and he films them. I'm the artist and he's the it was great idea so slater like when it comes to like rioting and getting still for I ride a lot with Joe. Who's WHO's my buddy and and people listen to the show? Joe's been on countless times and you know he's he really is the he really is like if you're in the San Diego area you gotta you owe it to yourself to try and get out in the water joe because he's such a positive experience so much fun like I like writing with Joe. Because Joe has his style and I have my style and that way we never Colli Joe Zoe's going for like the Nice Long Big beautiful line and I'm the guy who's like I want the steepest drop like. I don't care if it's a one point three second ride like I want to ride the people on the beach like what the fuck was. I think you know what I'm saying so like. What is it for you. What kind ended you have once you get into away. Do you feel like it is expression for you. Oh yeah I highly feel like especially for me. Honestly like my my whole life revolves around bodyboarding being hit and it always has always been. I was mostly raised outlet and <hes> but for me. I really like a good mix it. I liked it goes crazy when one of the conditions are crazy but when I have an opportunity to get a really good long ride let me get some Nkombo maneuvers said I really loved that too so it depends on like where I'm at what the waves are doing <hes> like for example if Larry Together restaurants in Fiji which have like one of my favorite spots that lives is super super long barely reef break and there you counted it could so fast you almost can't really do maneuvers since Kinda just outrunning you the whole time <hes> but it's Insan- insanely good barrel at it you can just sit in the barrel for so along <hes> but then if I were to go to let's say Seal Beach Pier on a big swell during the winter you get really steep drop and then you got a race racist straight to the ramp in his words polling to a big old barrel and so it's Kinda different <hes> for me just based on where I am with the laser done Nice Nice. I I guess I probably should have opened the show with a slayer. How old are you seventeen so like. It sounds like you're saying you're throwing things out there like Fiji and some pretty big name spots. How how many days per year do you ride in are you. Would you consider yourself on track to becoming a professional body border. So how many days a year so there's like three hundred sixty five days a year right probably like three hundred seventy as I'm writing adding just about every single day every day that I can yeah lately. I've been having I have like swimmer's ear so I've been out for like two weeks <hes> but Yelich back in June. I got a stress fracture in my l.. Five while out bodyboarding and that was really gnarly <hes> and I was out from that for eight months but up until the point that I had been her. I was just trading so arden surfing so much that is really on like a Jack and the now is a little bit of a setback but it's just coming around again and then just gotTa keep on what do you do when you're hurt would he do you can't get water. Is it sounds like it's such a major part of your life. How Ya doing I start to go crazy. It was honestly like so bad like couldn't really sit so just laying in bed all annuals. It was misery. Honestly <hes> I I kind of found some decent. Mike Making steps to make staff that things work on things that sort of thing <hes> also <hes> started working on driving thing to learn yeah. I only got my last two months ago are you. Are you driving on your own yet yeah all right what he rolling up to the surf spot in. I remember the first car I drove so I drive a Ford Explorer. Explore <unk> biggles Surf Cars Grace it everything in them boards. All my friends is perfect. That's the other thing is about by like you can fit all all your stuff in your car not to deal with like strapping into the roof and all that anxiety what about shaping have you ever tried shaping your own stuff or or like shaping fans or shaping boards or do pretty much role what they give you in terms of hub and what fins are you rocking so before his writing for hub because I've only been working with them for like a little over a year <hes> before that I was constantly experimenting everything from Sins Leashes these boards were designs brand or cores everything that I could basically and where I really got that from was my dad because he would do the same thing with surfboards and you would just finally alike invest in he would learn some big spotted and I love body warnings much as He loves surfing and so I urge you in the same thing and so I've Kinda like I've got a sitting here. Got A little collection. Here is an old deaf end and I like if you have used in you know that when your body were in the cast stick in the water a lot so what I did was trimmed off some of the edges on the rails if this made it a little bit different design and then took out the little w bump in the center so instead of w comes through the just give it a little different shapes. Eh Different feel <hes> just all sorts of stats like I have been. I like this is a honestly modest win collection. <hes> there's the the use fin bucket frog house right when I was like thirteen frog house in Newport beach represent yeah. When I was like thirteen I was going in like every weekend. We like money either insurers digging through the use bid box looking for something new to try out and just like nick. I was always looking for the next thing in learning about what what I had learnt what I've found basically I have a funny story for about Frog House so like when I learned how to surf it was like I served on the East Coast with my buddies on rescue boards outed like Chattan beach in Wellesley and stuff but that was like original style serving like surfing fricken forty pound civility toward <hes> but when I moved to H._p.. My Buddy j'AI AARP Lou. My Buddy Dave my buddy. Pat both like decided they were. GonNa Take Me Surfing. One of the first places they ever took me out to learn was frog house. Right so like that was one of the first breaks I ever had to drop in on a short board on was kind of kind of an interesting experience but on a deeper level the guys at Frog hashers super for Charles living in Huntington and I have this roommate that a seven six that had a hole in the tip it had no nose and had a hole in the back so like basically ugly it just became waterlogged biscuit almost immediately as soon as you'd like paddle out we take it out to golden west and I'd like fall off it. It'd be like just let it die and I would insulin out and say so long story short I go to frog house to look for a used board and they were like all we have this town and Country Board from why like you should by this. This is like one hundred sixty bucks and I was like really stressing that one sixty you know what I'm saying. I was like really going back and forth on our snowboarder. I wasn't sure if I wanted to invest in that equipment. I mean I had pro formed select one sixties like a new snowboard back then and they were like just take it and if you're still using in two weeks pay us and if you don't just bring it back. How fucking cool is that like? They were already there Heller ad so I I had a lot of love for progress plus. They have deep connections with Yoga. Have you ever tried Yucca thins out. <hes> I was writing for hub by the time those came around but I've seen them in shops Fisher have checked him out there. Thanks a really good balance of designed because they kinda take after the viper design. Yeah made ate a little shorter so it's a little bit. It's a little bit less like die thin more like a bodyguard fit less pressure yeah but at the same time it's also got stiff stiff rubber in the blade but then extremely soft in the foot pocket and I just think that's really good balance of design material yet. Sean Starke is doing awesome epic epic Shit you live right down the healers ninety scenarios well. Oh yeah he rubs seacraft the blackout Yup Yeah I had him put some pats one of my fears that Nice Nice so tell me a little bit about course alike. I'm super interested in potentially getting myself body board because as much as I love Writing California Surf Craft and I love the sustainability of it like when I when I slam on the Adak like my my surf graft is literally this that right. It's like three credit cards pushed together. It's carbon fiber fiber glass in court not very forgiving for for a bigger guy like me when I come down so tell me a little bit about what you've learned about co workers and what's the biggest difference out there because we have a lot of listeners that just don't understand this at all. We just C.. P. P. N. P. E. N. T. and Yada Yada you know boy. I could go on all day about board course so I got behind me here. These are aboard quatorze right but then take for this one they say regular one point nine density polypropylene so stiff polygraph ward and cut the blake like a sandwich read like they cut it long ways and then they <hes> put some this material no club tension tech in between the two and that sort of like a a thumb and Mesh combination that just makes the board so much more rigid and then they take the top half of that body board sandwich and I flip it upside down so that the outer outside edge is accurate or the rigid outside edge is actually against the tension set and that creates just even more rigid and snappier court but then at the same time that also makes the data lot softer so it's easier easier on your body yeah and I. I honestly like I love it so much. It's <hes> it's so it's I mean it kind of need you. You need like power to ride it because it is really stiff and you say what type of poisonous P P yet so. This is their cloud Hubbard's quad core but it's best with the famous T._T.'s does that have stringers in it yet south the hubs Rut where the hub edition quite course rather Siegel Stringer Doc <hes> that they also have the petition which is a job niebler personally. I don't read that one because I'm a writer <hes> but those come with up to like two stringers I believe and they come in all around to healthier hair. Yes so stringer is basically a <unk> around rod of well it could be it could be any of these materials. I've seen the May not have graphite. I've seen the made out of carbon fibre and I've seen a made out of fiberglass. There's a new technology called I s which is interchangeable stringer system and I've got uh-huh not seen the stringers here <hes> here's a stiff one. This one's all carbon fiber. Here's a medium flex one. This one is like I believe leave twenty percent carbon-fiber twenty percent five network eighty percent fiberglass and then the soft flat one which is just fiberglass and so he can really give you like a different flex <unk> varies based on how stiff you like your board <hes> the waves Iran eh also the temperature of the water because as you go from when I got from cold water to warm water just take bodywork put it more water. That's the song inside the volume of the themselves Lashley expand so that makes the board plex year or squad car which is really rigid really release really powerful board is really good for more water. I'd take in Quad Cores to Fiji and Bali and I've I mean they're just <music>. I'm enough take him everywhere. They've never brown clawed toward <hes>. It's extremely stiff. It's extremely powerful so when you take some power to load it up because it is stiff but once he loaded up it just snaps and shoots you it's crazy nice nice and then for like as far as the other types of course gathers P P and R G and P so P P is like the higher quality film. It's Poly Soot P._v._C. Anthropology prowl the high quality foam water a staff that is like the standard for professional body words <hes> then there's R._G.. With is holly pro polypropylene but it's a softer density so performs like a flexi keyboard but it's still waterproof and then there's polyethylene which p. and that's your cheaper option. That's <hes> that's that's basically it's not waterproof that would that's what you would find in like a cheaper. Board may be in the more of like a consumer board lesson behind performance in other words. He actually <hes> also guys like P._e.. For Colour for cooler waters like in the U._k.. A lot urban over there but he about this <hes> they like those because the real cold over the next so again like with hot water makes the board flex your cold. I will make board stiffer so you do WanNa flex your core cooler water power so you'd like what's hot water to you. What's an example of how water 'cause I live in That's a trip hot water for me is like seventy five eighty so nice. Do you just trunk for that right now. What's it yeah just trunk in it? Lest you like the water temperature's like that. That's Fiji Fiji so there there's a lot of coral reefs. Actually every spot is a coral reef so I wear a wetsuit top. That's just for protection rejection that makes sense yeah just a little little bouncing so like tell me a little bit more. Let's go a little deeper into defense that you're currently using you said that you use a pair of hub air fins right right. I'm actually got out hell. It's my God I have a pair of the red and blue ones so those are asymmetrical Finn and is there a major difference like I'm guessing you have a whole bunch since you're sponsored by them. Is there a significant difference in that the stiffness based on the color no I wouldn't we say so. I think that there because I have a blue and black pair and then I have the green black pair and those I I mean I've also gone up in sizes since writing for them and I've never felt a variation they all seem really consistent which is a good thing because other companies Tapia's like Churchill for example. I've used those before as Ryan for hub <hes> sometimes you buy <noise> pair and stiff rubber all the way <unk> out at the end so you end up with this really Lexi Fan and then I'm you end up with like up you know basically a concrete thin and so it's like it is kind of weird also in that timespan than I was experimenting with Gear. I was also growing constantly so at the same time that I'm trying new stuff <music>. I'm also happy to change up sizes. That's gotta be it's gotTa be a whole nother challenge like in terms of what the new pervert is there a reason reasoning prefer an asymmetrical thin versus like a matching pair. Yes there is so <hes> Hubbard's makes to fence they make the air cups in which is their asymmetrical <hes> bodyguard thin with a straight edge and then they make the dubs zero thins and that is their Jani said the air hub thin. It's a lot longer lot more surface area. <hes> it's as also like a different design as in where they place the stiffer softer over of course this on the air the flip pocket soft the latest death on the dubs zero thin the flip pocket is soft the rails and the base of the bladder stiff. The tip is off and that just kind of gives because it's so short just a little bit more band and that helps you get more power your kicks <hes> but for me I like the ace magical from what I'm reading crowd. I do have has a pair of the dubs zero Vince and those are there for me. I feel like the pocket is a little bit different. Feel like a little bit thinner top top to bottom so it fits my little better <hes> because my leader really thin but there is less you do get less power out of those because has you have less surface area <hes> also of course they're great for drop me good. Sorry go ahead. <hes> the real similar designed to the blunt to the teams blood cuts slightly different <hes> on the flip pocket in the drainage holes yet tubes sponsors a couple of body borders around here. I think I know they sponsor the when at least the Central California bodyboarding group Klay Coordinator did slater. Thank you so much for that deep diving detecting giving under questions about body tech before we move on Yeah so the street and I was like a metal bar basically that's inside of the Movie Board Blitz Carbon Fiber graphite or what was the other night immaterial potty everything that's going straight through the board. Yes so like if you were to look at the tale of aboard there's like a low plug in the middle of it and you can rule that who flipped that plug up put the stringer in and then it provides <hes> lateral IRV ochre length longitudinal stiffness. I'm sure they know amy slater. Just like may make both of us. Look terrible perfectly articulate how technology we're extending gets back to me and I'm like through plugging. Thank you that the players did thank you so much jerry questions before we got him <hes> one more quick ones later when you say you get air. Do you go on the other side of the way. Would you like get back into continue to ride the wave. Is that even possible so the the best thing section yes is to get up in the air complete the maneuver and continue on the wave or continue Bausch and found the land in a compensation landing behind the way of the county still score you for it for the maneuver but it's incomplete like throwing up Bob Alright well. Thank you so much for having coming on in fact there's so much we didn't get to that still WanNa get to we'd love to have you back on a second time if you if you're available so it of course always any any sponsors that you wanNA plug before we cut you out. Oh Yeah Definitely Hubbard's dated <hes> working with Jeff Hubbard Robert and Dave Hubbard and of course their gear are learned so much from both of them and from their gear and just I mean like the board. I can't even been described them. I just have so much fun when I ride him and they're just works and that's really why support the company. I was actually fully era. I was actually reading fully decked out hub gear before it was actually work or like sponsored by that's that's the shit that's the limit endorsement right there like when it's like I already have stuff like cool. We'll just give you might call anybody else. Yvonne Boarding yes body body burning as well their local shop at a San Clemente family on business. The owners are J.. Real and Vicky Real. Jay Real is the first ever world champion for bodyboarding Vicky Real. I believe is a national women's champion from Australia and I really look up to her a lot. Because when it's the first time <hes> I honest we allow <unk> it's like twelve ten twelve foot and I catch one with then I kicked out <unk> absolutely throttled by everyone behind it and I freak out a screen back to the boat sit in the boat. Catch my breath. I see Vicki catch an even bigger ways says and that embodied Emmett closed out on the waves and then get hit by more than I did and paddle rant backout ambush like shit if she's doing that like she is his best seriously as relational that that really made me like you know what I can actually do this. I got I got there and I just charged Elia awesome so go support. E bodyboarding does support go by hub products on E.. Body organs website in the comments made sure to tell him that you heard slater later on the coast Lafley program slater. Thank you so much on behalf of Posey Danny slater and everybody else here is co sloppy

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Ep. 100 | The Evolution of Customer Analytics at Electronic Arts

Customer Equity Accelerator

27:25 min | 2 years ago

Ep. 100 | The Evolution of Customer Analytics at Electronic Arts

"This is the customer equity accelerator. If you are a marketing executive to wants to deliver bottom line impact by identifying and connecting with revenue generating customers than this is the show for you I'm your host Alison Hartselle. CEO of ambition in data. Each week. I bring you the leaders behind the customer centric revolution. Who share their expert advice? Are you ready to accelerate then. Let's go welcome everyone in today's show we'll check in with a well known. Seal the meter to see how. It's going Zack. Doc Anderson is the VP and chief analytics officer at Electronic Arts. He's been featured in Wharton case studies heat failure and Sarah. Tom's latest book the customer Centric City Playbook and numerous conferences including our own customer centrisly conference where he shares his experiences about building up a substantial stansel practice of analytics and insights at EA. Which I find very generous? I ran into you all over the conference circuit and thank you so much for sharing that and for just being such a great advocate out there. Welcome to the show. Thanks talk to you this morning. So it's been about a year and a half since you were on the show last. I I can't believe we've been going that long. It's great and this is of course is our one hundred episodes so very excited about that. Thank you thank you for. I'm honored to have the honor for the 100-episode service. Great could you start by telling us a little bit about what your team is doing now. Just to set the context and then we'll dive in teams. Continue you to grow and of all lots of work around less. Not they are also players customers as as players as has a lot of work around. What motivates our players? Claire Game How. They think about our brands looking at behavioral data. Trying to figure out what they're doing in our games unless they like their how to make the games better and more engaging and then lately we've been shifting more and more to how to utilize the data to directly impact the player experience through recommendations that are matchmaking. Friend findings on those types of activities really grown over the last year and a half I would say that algorithm improvement of our Protestant so has really become bigger and bigger focus of the record. And it's interesting about that. As it reminds me of the conference where he talked about how long it takes. It took about seven years to get up. What is our customers interested? He curbed and to go from that very small slice of data that you were getting out of the xbox three sixty and the PS three which. I'm sure seems like eons ago and turn it into player centric data and so is the algorithm make improvements what you would say is the signature of have companies who are at this higher level of success in other words. You can't do it unless you've done the precursors I mean it depends on the business. You certainly see some upstart full digital businesses that are say are digital natives moves buildings their initial products that kind of algorithm optimization the customer experience variance. I think. It's been a little longer for us. We've had examples of that but with Ten Thousand Person Company and thirty products being developed it takes a long time to make it systematic and so for us. The seven years is really bad about bringing the whole company along on that journey. which definitely has taken time? I think we certainly we have studios within our portfolio that were able to capitalize much faster. But it depends on product cycles and everybody's attitude towards Alex data data and be. It takes a lot longer to get. The mass of a large company moves that way. So I think it really depends on where you start and how many people you have to you. Change the way they're thinking and change the products and processes to get there. It's definitely been seven years and it's still a battle. They're still products that are in market that our old that launch inch you know at the beginning of our journey that were just now starting to think about even retrofitting because they're big enough portions of our portfolio. When you say it's still a battle is it that you're having to convince certain people or certain studios by they might like to look at the data in a different way or is it not so much about the people to convince but about the churn of people who used to be there and are now gone? It's all those things and sometimes you even have people convinced bucks. The investment investment just doesn't really pay out in terms of bringing product and older product up to speed to be able to generate the data that we could use so I mean there's a lot of different within our portfolio. There ends up being a lot of different variations. It's kind of a giant program management tasks to figure out where the studios are individually on their journey journey where their products are out and then how my staffing and investment of time and Resources Masters back. And it's kind of a fascinating operational question just to drive the change which is something else that's changed over the last few years. I'm much more self aware of the scale of change and the speed at which all of lar- business units can actually make that change. Initially I would say I thought that if I showed them a great idea everybody would follow immediately. And there's just a lot more logistics. The two driving large organizational change that I had probably anticipated originally. But it's been a fun journey for me to learn and it makes me laugh because I think all analysts is come at it from that perspective. Like wow here's a nugget in the data this is awesome and then you kind of take it to the people you're like Yay look what we found. And then the real L. process kicks in is their signature of understanding. What that post finding process is going to be like like you mentioned that in certain studios videos it like the juice isn't worth the squeeze it takes too long to get the telemetry or the other things in place but are there other signatures that tell you that? This isn't going to move leaving if we bring them. This great insight. I mean it depends on the nature of the insight and there's a couple of things going on we're certainly in a creative world like you. Can I think of us as a TV G or engineering bread product or company. But the reality is we're actually a creative company and so I think how you you come with the ideas how where the company wants to make its debts and ultimately what the product is itself for us makes a big difference so we have some products that are knock live services there are just a grace narrative game with a story and the actually. We're launching one in the next few days called jet iphone or which is just. It's a straightforward narrative story about a star wars story and it has some telemetry in it but not nearly as much as say are feta game which is a massive many hundred million dollar live service that is changing the game and the product itself every week almost every day and so those two things operate very differently and so when go to that response team that built jet I fall in order to really sober conversation about what is the game for this product. What is the game for the overall business to understand consumer journeys through this product and we set much more than plastics expectations about how much telemetry even simple things like? Are we going to build dash boarding for this game or not or are we just going to try. Try to drive some insight. We focused much more on the consumer insights and you X.. Research part of my organization to help them develop the game rather than on the telemetry the tree and optimization and the messaging and all of those kinds of things sometimes I think about my group like a consulting organization and we have to pick the right products for each of of our studios based on their position on that curve their products set up with their customers. Expect and how much contribution the knowledge of their game will make the overall. We're all portfolio of our products and understand of our customers. And so it's Kinda I'd say at one point. Maybe I was a little more of zealot about everybody had to have maximum until we had all these insights and tools in order to make every game. I think over time. I've just become much more realistic on and flexible on. How much coach effort should we put into this based on the insights? We're GONNA get waters minimum set of tasks that I can ask the business to do and get the maximum return facialists businesses. It's so much for complicated calculation than I ever thought it was that I liked the way that you're thinking about it because obviously from the consulting perspective that's always the analysis we're trying to do but the way that you're breaking it out by Oughta makes me wonder how that affects the glare calculations. Are there really two different types of players players or other products grouped in such a way that they're driving different player bases in different ways and maybe the company doesn't really have thirty products at has two groups of products products. That were the buckets fit together or something like that and I mean obviously. I've been a huge advocate over time and probably the one thing if I could do anything. Da It'd be helper game developers that are markers understand the heterogeneity of our customers. There's a massive differences in motivations and play styles engagement with our products across all of our games and so none of our products that you can have one or two at the customers. They usually have ten or fifteen or twenty or twenty million depending on how you WANNA cut it. Yeah so or fallen order. We're still capturing for the most part the data about how far people get through the game how they engage with it. Obviously they'd install it or not so we are able to calculate the basics of lifetime value for the customer side so that contributions still exists. And that's part of our portfolio. You it could be the contribute that and that helps us understand what the players are doing and how they're interacting with rocks but we don't necessarily need do e triggering really detailed messages within within that game which we require a whole different set of two hundred and so they're really just the first five products in general. You can say live service unless services a good cut that certainly Lee makes one step and then how complicated the in game economy is how complicated. The product is how many customers are in it. How much heterogeneity is there of that customer? We're based in terms of different styles of play. All of those things contribute to how we think about. What is the correct setup? Celebratory for a game. And so when you have so many variables bulls coming in and obviously we see we love the concept of Heterogeneity but it starts to make a human head spin when we get beyond seven clusters or so or seven fourteen. Whatever is the magic number but I always think about seven from my journalism background where billboards you would only put about seven words? Because that's all anybody could grasp at one annulment. Carlos said that you should only ever have four because he is and I worked for a he signed so so does this mean that you have to be algorithm it in order to really respect that heterogeneity and if you are algorithm how do you get humans who love ristic's to stat so there's a couple of answers just that I think you can build and we have actually in the evolution of our our rhythmic delivery of say recommendations in a game. We've built a lot of player. Doc Do take advantage of pretty detailed data to be able to figure out. And even if you're just plotting those out directly you can get pretty complicated journey okay for a very large population just with decision trees and you can utilize a lot of that data. And then in fact I would say the richness of that data in Abel's dead or the development of hypotheses by say our product managers or live service producers to figure out kind of what those clear journeys are one of our most successful financially actually but also one of our largest products in terms of customer bases are games and one of the things that's been interesting is there one of our top studios or using recommendations and I'm really trying to get players to the funds and the part of the game. LOOK THEY WANNA play quickly and driving engagement through that and one of the things that they've Dave what I've seen over time as they were early adopter of technology at telemetry and they're adding new pieces of telemetry hooks to the game based on the Claire Journeys they want to manage. And that's actually become the fastest growing aspect of this country. Are What are the triggers that they need to find to be able to test the hypotheses around how they could drive better engagement. And it's really an interesting case. If we are to talk about their improving the seal beach for their game increment by increment by improving each of those journeys and making making it. More seamless for the customer over time and at the same time also using all of that data to improve the potential offers or the potential parts of the game that at the more engaged players. And they're just getting better and better every year it's really quite amazing and then the telemetry is going along with that. Desire for insights the sophistication the player journeys journeys they're building the use of algorithms to optimize player. Journeys all moving together at this really virtuous cycle which is quite amazing and with it. Their long-term financial unclear satisfaction and kind of everything. Going on is is just any better better than a great story for us as a company that makes quite proud. And I'm quite amazed at that team how much they've taken advantage of that over time. It strikes me in that comment is so much about the virtuous cycle because there's the solving for the big problems that is the low hanging hanging fruit but then after that it sounds like in this case they got into the new normal where they really side as a continuous cycle of forma hypothesis. Pathogenesis run the test and bring that thrill into the game. Is that right. Where they're just constantly optimizing? Yeah I think they really have. They have this really positive the cycle of experimentation automation personalization and player journeys as the kind of means to achieve that that's just really accelerating alerting the business accelerating the player engagement happiness with the product. I would say overall. There's actually two cycles that quite interesting. So there's a kind of testing automation and personalization cycle. Which is quite quick which is can be on a daily weekly pass for? And then there's Larger cycle outside of now which is developing new features and arcades modes and doing things in the product to improve the features that already exist. That's kind of a larger cycle which is is also being driven by the experiments by the player behavior and the game by understanding the attitudes and motivations of those players and looking at where people drop off kind kind of churn analysis driving the product to be improved on more like A. I would say monthly for small changes but quarterly and annual for large changes. And that. There's really both of those cycles are moving together but at different timeframes which is pretty amazing. I like that that kind of dual cycle and thinking about how you allow for that. It's it's interesting. I would say. We got earlier. Adoption out of the short cycle. You know if I broaden out to not just see for across star portfolio we've had earlier adoption and for kind of some of the experimentation testing short cycle on like our global products and The smaller products. But it's harder to get the long cycle going on the larger larger products that kind of have annual releases or releases every two years. We've done better with the long cycle but the short cycles harder to pick up on which is kind of interesting. When can we get them both going like on seaside? It's really a great cycle. Well actually I just have to push a little bit here and there but mostly I have to try to keep up with demand for analyst State of Science and Research Services that group needs and they just want more and more of the time. It's so amazing about that. Dual cycle relates to the professor. That I think you studied under there was a noble prize winning economist Lloyd sharply who was very influential. Essential in in fact probably created most of the mathematics underneath game theory alongside Nash and some of the other famous economists early on and he talked about the Mathematical Study Study of conflict and cooperation. And what I think is interesting is basically have this conflict in cooperation on multiple levels. You've got it within the game as you're doing analysis you've got the dual cycles and then you've got the human side of people who are taking people within ea who are taking up the analytics and making demands stands for more data science. So how do you handle all of that human behavior. Yeah where to start on that. Yeah I think it's it's interesting. I mean I tell. People quite often the basic equation that I use studying with Dr Shop the other one of my advisers Jack Kersh fly for both at Ucla and the basic equations underlying especially the models with power relationships and then ended up being Mojahed Equations and a lot of the modeling. Not only we still do is based on a lot of legit equations various types of distributions. But so kind of at the game play level. It's interesting that we're doing that now. Of course we're doing I mean much. Much of my work was on small games like three person games with different power relationships and obviously were now studying hundreds of millions of players in tons of different interaction. So the computational needs are much larger but less increase at least as back to for us to be able to keep up with. I think the interesting one that that you raise though is really the internal one. And I don't know if I'd do it explicitly but I certainly think about building coalitions and the how different parts of the organization respond to with their locus of power. And how we can motivate people and analyze I I guess subconsciously. At least what's the best way to yours ation forward. I think it's interesting to me. Game Theory is for me personally. It was such a good teacher. market dynamics and then the micro economics and your math underneath that we're really fundamental to my becoming a great analyst list or a good analyst. At least I was younger so hopefully in lots of different ways one of the first classes that I took with Dr Chaplin's early in my graduate work at UCLA was was over in the math department. And he would routinely come in and just say a couple of simple words of greeting to us and then start writing on the board from memory and working through a set of Equations Asians which he was gonNA teach us for our time that day. There's only three of us in the class so we sat at the table and looked up at sports and so one day. Come in on this bingoing for about an hour and a half or something and just stopped turned around and walked out of the room and the students. We were all sitting there looking at each other like what's going going on. So we diligently waited and a half hour later. He walks back and goes to the board. He's got a paper in his hand and says you guys aren't paying attention. I made a mistake Bacon hour ago and not as you caught and so now he's collected the paper that you wrote in the fifties that covers this equation and has gone back and fixed it but he realized he. I've made a mistake much much earlier than we did. And so that was kind of classic sharply story of how the classes went but it was amazing. I mean just to see the way his mind worked the the sheer amount of papers acres and theories that he had written along with Mash and Chew Vic and Robert Almond in the early days of Game Theory. It was just really coming amazing and such a great pleasure to study under under him. Teething fave would have made even more progress with today's compute power or is it not that the theories themselves are strong enough. It doesn't matter how much more data beatty throw at it. That's a great question. I actually think about that a lot. I wonder I'm kind of. I'm checking myself so in my mind. The question is with all all the data that we have do. We have to have hypotheses to essentially what they were doing was building a hypothesis and constructing a set of equations around NASA The represent that hypothesis and build a nice model of the world. But now we have so much data and reinforcement learning techniques on many others that allow us to. It'd be much more bottoms up in the way we construct our descriptions of the world that we're trying to study your the human behavior that we're trying to study. My bias is still often to WANNA WANNA have hypothesised. First and then go into the system and do your specification search work after you have documented and know what your hypothesis but you know increasingly increasingly. I think that's not necessarily correct assumption. I mean one of the things that I've been thinking about a lot lately. Is You know one of the reasons these machine learning models are so powerful. It is that they're able to uncover patterns at the human analysts can't or won't pick up even after thousands of hours of studying the data so then the question is. Should we really interrogate that machine learning model so that to determine whether it's sound or not by forcing it to explain itself to human who would have never understood it in the first place and I think I'm starting to come to the belief that if we can build these models then test them to see whether they worker Granada in just his tests. Maybe we don't need to understand the exact pattern that is picking up and that were actually living the effectiveness of the techniques by requesting to interrogate the model itself. But that's a really hard thing for me to come to actually. Yeah I mean in a sense. It's like dynamic snowflakes right. The patterns are constantly shifting shifting and changing especially in a live model where. You're not just going to set it and forget it. So the limit is human brain. So it's just interesting to me. I mean I think trained is a game theorist I certainly want to have a model and I think in terms of relationships within the business between our players and the games themselves a structural equation. But I think that's that actually dates me dot as good an analyst. Now as I was before win compute Hugh power was brushes. You had to have good hypothesis before you went and use the computer and now Computer so cheap. You just don't have to have the same strength of hypothesis. I I love where our conversation went today. If we were to summarize in general learnings that you felt were most valuable over the last couple years whether it's about moving the organization forward or about different ways to think about dash forwarding her new dash boarding or models or new models from apothecary. How would you summarize summarize things that people should be thinking about now as they try to drive their organizations with better customer centric player? centric day for me. The last two years have have really been about scale about not just having a good insight about or manny even about how the business should operate differently or about our players and how to build dark games or operator business but really to think about how do I scale those insights scale the change scale management. Dr Is new patterns of operation into our business and so I think if I had been thinking about scale earlier we would have achieved at earlier. I I believe my biggest to conclusions over the last year and a half or even two years has been that I should have seen the scale at which we were going to be operating in a based on the scale of our business and I should have let go as the leader of it Really trying to generate the insights and start thinking about the program Of Change and scale that we need to develop. If I'd gotten there earlier I think we would have gotten there earlier as a company. So that's a learning for me. I think the second thing which I kind kind of mentioned is really learning flexibility. In the way that we operate and a lot less dogmatic I thought the zealousness by which I drove the change and drove grove. Insights in would in fact the organization that I think what I've become much more dogmatic and recognizing that that's not always the best way to get there and then I I think the third thing that a lot of organizations are challenged with the scale of my organization. We've become over time a little bit of a bottleneck in how to deliver data and insights. It's back to the company and so we're really working hard to take our analysts. Still keep them obviously doing the great work that they're doing in contributing to the business in the way they do but get insights and ate more people in the business able to ride insights from the data from the behavioral attitude and all data without an analyst sitting next to or delivering a presentation. And that's also a pretty big challenge that requires a lot of process. Sometimes people's changes and technology changes. That aren't all old now possible but are another kind of set of accelerated that. Take kind of big program to do that alone. I think is a huge challenge that we always go back back and forth between. How much should you expect people to be able to self service out of the data? And how much should you need an analyst to ride alongside Heiden. It's like driving right. It's a series of small adjustments. That eventually gets you in the right direction. Yeah and it's a hard one. I mean when I go out and speak a lot of people WANNA talk about self service tools and technology you put in. I mean the technology is important and evolving. And you certainly need to stay off on that. And there's lots of great increasingly great tools to be able to do that which you have to be flexible in order to adopt and fit into the system but at the same time that human change is the thinking changes. The demands is actually a much harder problem to resolved in selecting a technology. I completely agree all right. Zach if people want to reach you or I don't know if you need more people on your team. How can they get in touch? Best Way to get in touch with me is shoe. BML reference this and emails. The Anderson at the DOT COM very easy excellent excellent as always links to everything we discussed and I think I'm actually going to link to a little bit of Loyd chaplains background because that's just such a rich interesting piece of information. Yeah a link to that in our notes at ambition data dot com slash podcast Zach. It has been such a pleasure watching you go on this journey and checking back with you. Thank you for being part of our hundred episode today. Yeah my pleasure. It's such a fun thing. It's great to work with you and I'm sure I'll see you at another a conference or with one of your clients or something. Remember when you used your data effectively. You can build customer equity. It's not magic. It's just a very specific journey that you can follow it to get resolved. Thank you for joining today's show. This is your host Alison Hartzell and I have to two gifts for you. I I've written a guide for the customer centric. CMO which contains some of the best ideas from this podcast and you can can receive it right now. Simply text ambition data one word to three one nine nine six and after you get that white paper you'll have the option for the second gift which is to receive the signal once a month. I'd put together a list of three to five things. I've seen that represent customer tremor equity signal not noise and believe me. There's a lot of noise out there. Things I include could be smart tools. I've run across articles. I've shared word cool. Statistics or people and companies. I think are making amazing progress as they build customer equity I hope you enjoy the CMO guide it and the signal C._N._N.. Streak on the customer equity accelerator.

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Episode #2093 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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Episode #2093 The New Phil Hendrie Show

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Okay i guess not here has folks from the twenty eighth a longest which happens to be mothers birthdays. That right phil. It's the world famous. Fill henry show. And the thirty days of bob do now. It's bobby dooley's thirty days of this is alvin. Thank you very much. And you're the ceo. And welcome. everyone to the thirty days of bobby. I'm bobby doerr with my husband. Steve and we are bringing you attach a taste just a sampling of what it is to be me and by extension. What is to be me with steve. What is to be steve and what. It is to be us to be us. The two of us also us as the homeowners association. Yes that's right steve. In what is to us as a matter as a home association. We're not the will. Thanks a lot for that. Steve wasn't coming in your weight. What is to be us is the president and vice president of the homeowners association here for western estates and its associated and allied organizations such as the western states parent teacher organization and the western states middle school. And so having said that. Welcome to our program. Thirty days of bobby days of bobby brought to you. By the western states homeowners association in its effort to populate western states with quality human beings for better and newer tomorrow mallaby. Human beings is what we're all about at western. The states almost association again. And i wanna ask you. You're you're you're you're right. Yes because there's a little bit. It sounds like you might be struggling. You're struggling and i struggling. I'm struggling with the Struggling with how happy. I am to be the way you were talking like. You might be struggling with control. You know you might be lacking never mind your shirt. I was sure. 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If there was something wrong to stephen i to our untrained ear it sounded as if he was choking deep in his throat on it sounded like there was something jammed in yes because he was halting right. Steve yeah he was saying solvent. I can't describe it. I can't. I can't describe it but i know what you mean bobby. Thank you very much. I think that's why we're married because you know something. I wanna talk a little bit about marriage and what it means to me and how good it is. I want to talk a little bit about love what it means and how good it is. I wanna talk a little bit about steams steve. I met steve seal beach california. Just out of high school. I heard someone say. Do you want to buy a fake. Id and looked there. He was sitting on the back bumper of his mother station wagon and he was looked to be cooking up. A spoonful of. I've told the boys not to listen up. Darbar he was cooking up a spoonful of darva. I tell you that was it for me. Every other man every other person in the area washed away there was just steve steve and his spoon for me. Letting just talking about me. That's all i needed to hear. That's all i needed to see. Twenty four hours later there was a woman by the name of della redan. You remember her steve. I was going steady with her high school. Rebound brunette and italian. She was tall. She was very busty very large in the chest she was shapely in a big italian girl. Way i don't know if you know what i mean. She had the big nose but it was very shapely very akron gaps between the front teeth. But steve you found that sexy. Didn't you not the greatest breath but that's not for me to judge. That's for you steve. I just i noticed the garlic. Walsh's tell me i did. I notice i noticed the garlic from five feet away. And that's okay. There's nothing wrong with that. And i remember her because she was singing. The song respect we out there on the lunch. The lunch break there at the high school. Was it the is where was that. No no no no. It was the food court over valleys. Oh i thought we were in high school leaver of high school. You met me after high school after high school graduation out the food court at valley's okay. The food court there at the valley's mall and she was singing the song by aretha franklin. What you want. yeah you got it. And she thought she was so big in some special. Bobbie dooley and wait a minute. Come back to help you because it sounds wrecked. You sound wretched. Sorry wis for insulting lobby early. And he's pleased to bobbie duly. Thirty days of bobby. We'll be right back. I'm ending on this story about the bad breath of italian girl. In bobby's we'll be back with bobby dooley's singing respect better than than dela a bloom or whatever. Her name is right after this. Give you freedom to comment. I'm taking the freedom to comment any questions. Bobby duly the thirty days of bubby brought to you anthrax dent the new anthrax the new anthrax for twenty twenty look at the sleek designs. The mileage you won't believe spacious comfort for your family and look at all those seat belts loaded in head on out for the beautiful beautiful months ahead driving the twenty twenty anthrax the new anthrax from poder motors and by. Hello i'm william shatner. Not really and i listened to the phil. Henry show no have no. I don't eskimo will you filthy little brat when your kid tries to the old double entendre. Try spurting submit. This myth is quick. It stings take it off. Throw it in the garbage. The police will never know. used it. The spartans mitch. Yeah from wigley. Welcome back to thirty days of bump his bobby singing respect by what. You want the eighty. I've got it and what you need. You know i got it. All i'm asking for. Steve is a little bit of respect when you come home. Hey baby when you get home. Mr. i ain't gonna do you wrong while you're gone ain't gonna do your own because i don't wanna all i'm asking is for a little respect when you come home like i'm sorry i just. I was comparing favorites. You're you're better than her auto. Stop the tape stuff the to stop the tape but dickman drawback if you need it you buddy in one. More time steve. And you won't even feel it when it's coming off. Do you understand been you had some slut in highschool sixteen now. I'm going to do it. Lobby duly and a specked what you want. I got what you need. You know. I got it all. I'm asking four lou respect when you tom. Hey baby when he get home. Mr i ain't gonna do. You're wrong while you're go eight gonna do you wrong wanna all the masking deep respect when when you come home turn it off. Turn everybody's walking out bad with up thirty days of bobby and that's not what i want you the We'll be right. Oh oh don berman be. I'll do it done. Berman is on the phone now. Let's talk to don. He is on assignment here at western states and it was an interesting thing last night. I don't know how many of you might have heard we had not. We didn't have a. We have our summer tackler but we did. Do our fashion show. We tried to do our three runways today. Yesterday and way way back and done berman was bless his heart our host and we really want to thank him for that. And i want to thank him. I know that dawn is working late tonight at the at the channel. Nine thousand nine hundred newsroom. John how are you are very welcome you know. I want to thank you again for being last night's fashion show yesterday today yesterday way back. I was happy to do it. I was not happy to be wearing a speedo and that was as embarrassing a moment. You hear you hear about it Do steve know what are you doing here about it. Did you tell him i did. I told you i called. You office said we. You gotta wear a speed because by tiki dance. I saw your tricky dance. Steve and i'm appreciative of the traditions. That all of you there at western states. I don't know what you do or su traditions. Okay the traditions. What you've had and that's fine. But when you said that i had to get into a speedo and i said you're kidding because i was prepared i don't have the greatest body for a speedo for starters and then one of these women was looking at my you-know-what and asking where is it. All of these jokes put together. You know when you're on the air right now seeing these things. If i would advise you not to say them. Yeah okay perry mason. I wanna tell you something bobby. Did you come on this program a dawn to complain. If i knew you had these complaints. I never would've ask you on that. You had a contractual agreement with and you're right you did i did. I hosted the entire fashion show wearing a speedo. And i had people saying well you know. Is it a girl is it a you know. What gender is it. And then i had people walking around behind me and saying don't fall in. You know things like that so it was embarrassing as hell. You were treated very poorly. I agree with that. I talk to all the people bags to take to take the kids away and they wouldn't go. Did you tell them to take the kids away or they wouldn't is that about as good. It's ten o'clock at night and there's ten eleven year olds running around backstage pointing and laughing at me and the speedo now and then i had mr duly their do steve. When did you do the dance. Do to tiki inch the piggy does yes the tiki dance. I'd do the dance. Obviously right after you were done. I was doing he dance. And then the program. It'd be over and i kept on going and going on and on and on and on i i want to tell you that i am happy. You came on and you did that. You signed contractual agreement with us and we paid you. You paid me one hundred dollars. That's great need one hundred dollars my fault. Not saying so i don. I'm sorry that you didn't understand. The terms of the agreement didn't say that i would be provided a custom that i must wear throughout. I had no idea costume is a basically a underwear. that's all it is speed up to speed them. It was a speedo it was. It was a bright able speedo. Let me just tell you this I'm very happy again. Bobby and glad that you invited me to your summer. Tackler and narrate your fashion show. I was up there without any clothes on for the most part. I was up there without any clothes on for the most part. And i've never done anything like that before in my life and i can assure you i never will and i will never do anything ever again for you. I will never ever agree to anything having to do with western states. If i see your name or your husband's name on anything that i'm even going to be driving by. I'm gonna take a huge detour around it on never ever ever ever ever again. Any days of bobby. We'll be right back. We're going to go to the gym going to go to the gym. We're going to do some working out. Try to work out a lot of the anx that were feeling right now. Jim workout expert feeling. I just said that we'll be right. Back bobby steve duly thirty days of bobby. We'll be right back. We'll be right back well. bobby is comes up because i'm wondering are you gonna break. What do you do. What what am i doing. You're you're saying we'll be right back breaking. Yes we're breaking would win. You gotta break. We guess what. Tom com the middle. Might get lost. I'm we'll be right. Pat bobby steve duly. They'll be right back pushing. I can't do that over on the right now. Bobbie dooley has. I'm sorry i can't can't be disloyal to bobby. I just dumped out of that. We'll be right back folks. We are back and are gymnasium. Here at western states steven i get on some of the machines during this pandemic. It's very smart to where mass especially when you're in a large area with a lot of people and that's why we don't have a lot of people here steve. Good socially distancing that's going on and there's a guy there's one two three four guys one guy on on on lake machine another guy on a on a shoulder machine in another guy on a bicycle machine and there's another guy who's doing some on the cav machines the machine and there's another guy on the machine another guy chess machine so that's how many. Oh i'm sorry. It's one two three four five six seven. I forget looking different. So we are socially distanced from them in to do some exercises to show you how to keep yourself trim and keep yourself in shape during the pandemic steve. This is basic calf machine. What you do is in your stomach. Here you're holding onto these two people can't see them steve. I know that bobby. But i'm just saying he cuts lay on your stomach. You do it with you nothing. I'm sorry laying your stomach. You hold onto these. You lift your legs up and you go. Yeah whatever enough. Obviously steve's got something wedged deep and wide. No i do not just. I wish he would but in so much. I'm bobby duly. The my name is it's the it's the by name my name is. This is thirty days of bobby. Isn't it yeah. i'm sorry. take me by surprise here. Thirty days of bobby dooley is i. Got it all right so you lay on your stomach hang onto these two things here and what things the bars at the side of the steve. People don't know what you're talking about. They might think you're it's a euphemism for all right sure. Yeah that's right. It's a euphemism for the cheeks. You're gonna cry. No anyway you hang onto these things here. They have nothing. They're not attached to my wife. They're not her buttons. I'll do a do it. You land your stomach. You hold onto these two things here and there. Not my husband's testicles. What's the problem. Bobby steve duly thirty days. You hang onto these two things here. That are not my wife's buns or butter or or cheap and then you lift these weights strengthening to the pot the fi and the and the fine the calf muscle. I ready one. Two three Yeah there's one. Those do ten to ooh bobby and steve duly thirty days of bobby by back. This is cliff chesterfield. i'm running for state council. What's happened here and what is happening can happen to you. This can become you. do you want that. No of course. You don't what i want what you want. What we all want is a safe place for children to grow up a place for our grandparents to sit and stare and to enjoy the sound of nothing for you and me and all of our contemporaries to enjoy a card game bull. Shoot pool or sailboat. Can we do that. no we can't. Why is that. Because of gus house. Urban and all of his friends who've developed the pushman project that is sitting out there on the edge of the lake where we could be recreating right. Now you and all of us we can be swimming. We could be fishing boating. But they've gotta have that for the little oil wells in their their little drilling projects. Why is that so they can make money. You vote no on proposition. Twelve this november painful. And but i'm friends with pomp and now back to bobby delaying the thirty days of bobby. This is without a wonderful community here at western states and one of the great things that we have here. Western states are easter celebrations and our homeowner association meetings. We're not just a community of people. We are a community of friends. We are members of a tribe. This is our annual easter celebration. What we have out here western states in our common area in here. Everyone having the time right now our annual easter celebration we celebrate. We danced wildly around the fire and then some of us will give some comments right now. Is dancing. Go ahead steve. Are you saying anything. Steve recognizable. I'm not saying anything that means. Just making sounds a drum dancing. We have really saying anything that means anything. He's just making noises like the idiot that he has. This is part of the celebration. We have here western states each and every weekend when we go out to our common area and other times i will address in with some sort of a style of myself in in bushes or tree limbs or something like that to look like the nature law. Hit it. steve steve's willing he is dancing and a those people swirling about the room a lot of complaints things making guttural noises and has but it's meaningful. It means something to me. It means something to me and me and him. Using lobbying steve duly. We'll be right back. You'd like tickets to see the bobby and steve duly thirty days of bubby show. You can't get a thank you and thanks everyone for joining us today on our tour of western estates during. This are thirty days of bobby like tickets to. He's already said he can't get. You can't get tickets. 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The Beneficiary: Virginia McGinnis

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The Beneficiary: Virginia McGinnis

"True crime brewery contains disturbing content related to real life crimes. Medical information is opinion based on facts of a crime and should not be interpreted as medical advice or treatment listener discretion is advised. Welcome to true crime brewery. I'm gel and i'm dick. It was a beautiful day on the california coast. Line win twenty year old deanna. Wild agreed to take a day trip to big sur with older couple. Virginia and billie joe mcguiness. This is a popular tourist spot but the cliffs are dangerous with unstable earth near the edge and the rocky pacific coast below. Deanna didn't feel well that day but virginia convinced her to walk along the cliff's edge and pose for photos as diana looked out at the beautiful scenery. Virginia began to snap the photos. Billie joe put his arm around the listless young woman with his hand at her back as virginia. Only the anna. Virginia and billie joe knew what happened next. What we do know is that diana fell to her death from the cliff that day her autopsy would show that she had clot her fingernails into the earth trying to save herself but the weight of her body or the push of her killer sent her plummeting to the rocks below. Join us at the quiet and for the beneficiary windy. Nfl to her death. The idea of it being an accident was feasible but further investigation including earlier. Suspicious deaths in virginia mcguinness's past and a life insurance purchase made the day before diana's death with virginia as the beneficiary lead diana's mother and investigators to take a closer look into what happened that day. So we've got a nice california beer free us today. Jolts called enjoy by ip from stone brewing. Which is very iconic brewery in california. So the idea behind their enjoyed by us it. There's kind of a date. The is best to have an eye. Pa they tend to get a little old so the enjoyed by will say enjoy by seven one fourteen or enjoyed by six thirty eighteen stuff like that. So there's more than one a year that comes out several laugh. Okay so the one i had is an imperial. Ip it's nine point. Four percent ab nice clear gold colour fiqh whitehead with plenty of lace good citrus aroma. Some sweet malt taste-wise grapefruit. Lemon pine little biscotti. Pretty hoppy beer. It's nice those are super popular right now. Those happy beer. Some uber but the ops not that they have an expiration date. You want to have them when they're fresh show so look at the dates on the bottle or can and hopefully your ip as less than a month old and you're ready to go all right. It sounds great. let's open it. That is a nice aroma. Doesn't it yeah really does pretty beer. Yes lovely from Why don't you bring a couple of those down here to the quiet end and you can start out this really amazing story. I think it is grow. Hadn't heard of this until you said that this is a interesting case to do certainly is so. Let's look at the anna shoes. Born in nineteen sixty seven he. She had a childhood that was. Let's say less than ideal when she's only three years old. Her parents divorced and less than a year later. Her mother bobby roberts remarried in this time. Her husband was a student named tom marshall. Now after deanna started school she was diagnosed with a learning disability. Her iq was determined to be about eighty five by the time she was in high school. Deanna was only reading at a second grade level. But she did enjoy socializing. She did have friends however in the tenth grade she got in with a a say the wrong crowd she in a mother began to argue. Eventually bobby divorced tom. Marshall stepfather deanna. Stayed with her mom in kentucky our again. They did have a bit of a strained relationship. Deanna always knew that her mother was there for her well. It's certainly not unusual for a teenage girl and her mother. To get into arguments in clash. Really it's kind of the norm right here. Sure yeah now when she was nineteen. Deanna left home and she married her high school boyfriend. Jay while j was in the navy. Indiana moved with him to san diego. That's where he was stationed. Deanna would write letters home every few weeks but her address changed frequently and she and her mom didn't always stay in close contact with each other now so we think maybe things weren't so great in the marriage less deanna like to use some drugs in party a little bit so in january of nineteen eighty seven. Deanna called bobby to tell her that she and her husband. Jay were separating. Deanna plan to stay temporarily with this older couple's she'd met virginia and bj mcginnis so these were the parents of new friend named jimmy coates. Apparently that's what deanna said. And they would help her out while she looked for a job and an apartment of her own. After diana was with the mcguinness's bobby began to feel kind of uneasy about it. She called the house often until dna warned her that she was disturbing them and she needed to back off. Or the mcguinness's were going to change their phone number so that was odd corey harder. Go to say here. Because bobby was not a domineering overpowering woman. She was just checking on her daughter. She was worried about her daughter. She knew she was very trusting and easy to manipulate. She wanted her daughter to return home to kentucky and she even sent deanna round trip ticket to louisville so diana did fly home in february of nineteen eighty seven but within a few days she and her mom were constantly bickering. Deanna angrily stormed out of her mother's house and returned to the west coast. And the next. Bobby would hear about her daughter. Tragically was in a call from the monterey. Coroner's office when they informed. Her of diana's death so deanna had moved back in with virginia mcginnis after she left kentucky and on the morning of april second nineteen eighty seven. Dj mcginnis drove his ford ltd with virginia. In the passenger seat. Indiana in the back. They drove through the los angeles traffic and onto the coastal route highway one from san diego to monterey to view the famous cliffs of big sur virginia explained to deanna that they were taking the longer coastal route for her so she could see the ocean views. She hadn't seen before. Virginia had purchased a camera for this sightseeing trip and they stopped at a roadside diner for lunch. Virginia about deanna. Cheeseburger fries and a coke while they were there as they approached the coastline hills. In jagged cliffs of big sur. The highway narrowed to two lanes to the east. The anna would have seen the redwood farce of los padres national park then to the west the ground fell of hundreds of feet jetting rock formations over ocean waves now past the breakers. You could see pelicans flying low over the water hunting for fish and see itis sunning themselves on the rocks there were a few houses spread out among the hills but they're generally further inland so bj had pulled the car over a couple of times unseen. Ick turnouts where virginia took some photos. One photo was of deanna sitting on a rock wearing dark sunglasses with her blue. High-heeled pumps dangling over the edge. It was after four pm when bj pulled onto seal beach overlook. This overlooked is a small gravel covered semicircle about twenty yards diameter with boulders forming a gapped tooth barrier along that cliffs catch the northern edge. Looks down over. Four hundred feet to a small cove and down there. There's a large population of sea lions. So it is a beautiful sight to see and this is known as seal beach. So at first diana said. She didn't want to get out of the car. She was tired and she wanted to take a nap in the back seat but virginia was persistent explaining that the fresh air would do her good so virginia. Bj indiana got out of the car as the sky was darkening and the fog was setting in virginia brought her camera and began snapping photos. Bj help deanna into her windbreaker and walked her over to the cliff edge as he walked her between the boulders he and his hand on her shoulder and they leaned over to see the seals it was really sight. I'm sure but deanna was tired and cold. Just feet away. There was a jagged rock and just that seemingly beautiful endless ocean view then at five fifteen pm. Deputy john burke who is driving monterey sheriff search and rescue then arrived to seal beach turnout the area was already overrun with people in vehicles including ambulances sheriff's cruisers and a tv news in a few families that even pull over in their rv's station wagons to see what was going on. Burke pulled over near the center of the turnout began arranging traffic cones and roping off the cliff edge with the help of deputies and as a setup rescue equipment he radioed for a helicopter now when he had arrived it was already half an hour. Since emergency calling on through sun was going down starting to get cold. If the impact had not killed deanna. She certainly at risk from dying from exposure. The ocean basin in monterey is deep up to three thousand feet in some places so it stays cold year round cooling the surrounding air but bitter wind. Yes so it wasn't a complete drop-off it was kind of a gradual fall and then a drop off further down so you just have to wonder maybe someone could survive that if they just kind of slid down for four yeah if they had caught themselves but from the turn it was impossible to see where deanna had ended up now. Unfortunately this type of call really. Isn't that uncommon. It occurs about once a month in this area. Well yeah they clipped a nylon body bag to a cradle used for moving victims from difficult spots then birkin his partner richard. Niamey put on helmets and hook their utility belts to a steel cable from the truck. Spool the ground slope down to alleged where they found. One of diana's blue pumps burke noticed some scrub bushes were bent over and some spots on the soil had skidmarks so it appeared the diana had tumbled along the cliffs contour before plummeting to the bottom. So it wasn't a straight fall. When the helicopter came in and circled the area pebbles rain down on burke in niamey about one hundred and fifty feet below the cliff's edge burke found in a second shoe then several feet below that he saw some fresh blood on the rocks as they continue to make their way down blood. Mark diana's path downward then about four hundred feet down. He saw diana's blue clothing. He had founder. Her body was face down. She wore jeans and a navy. Blue windbreaker her left leg was twisted. This grotesque angle and her head and neck which is covered with partially drive blood that had actually soaked her hair. Burke would say later that in spite of her terrible injuries deanna actually looked kind of peaceful. He had seen many dead bodies over the years and he had seen expressions of fear anger and even horror but to him. Deanna looked like a sleeping child when he touched her skin. It was very cold to the touch. She had no paul so she had been dead for some time. Birkin niamey's zip diana's corpse into the dark green body bag put her onto the cradle and then the helicopter lifted her up. Virginia had seen distressed when the police arrived according to her deanna had stepped too close to the edge while posing for a photo and she lost her footing she had fallen silently. Virginia said they heard no screen and she and bj were just unable to save her. Yes so they would actually say that they saw where she landed. But that was impossible. According to other witnesses at the scene. So there's already one. Little problem with virginia story from problem with the story he asked. Said diana's mom. Bobby roberts was devastated when she heard about the death of her daughter of course when she contacted virginia mcginnis virginia told bobby that diana had been engaged to her son james coats and he was just kind of an awful person but deanna was actually still married to j. wild who was abroad in the navy. In fact diana had recently talked about reconciling with jay still. Bobby accepted that. Her daughter had died in a tragic accident. Why would it be anything else. Diana had spoken fondly of virginia and her family even calling virginia a surrogate mother now in addition to her grief. Bobby had some serious financial concerns just paying for her daughter's funeral as a single mom and schoolteacher had left her in dire straits. There was a small burial policy of twenty five hundred dollars from her employer but the insurance company wasn't paying her and this is a significant amount of money to her. It's in the eighties. So twenty. five hundred dollars is nothing to sneeze at welcome. She's a single mom teacher's salary and they're just notoriously underpaid ritchie's having a tough time sure some months past after diana's death and bobby was trying to regain control of her broken life. She taken a leave of absence from her teaching job and she'd begun going to bed at six thirty each night and sleeping through to morning. She was deeply depressed and her only solace where these long dream lists sleeps so she wasn't dealing with it that well herman a difficult time. She didn't have a lot of support either now by sunday. July eighteenth nineteen eighty seven. This was three and a half months after. Dna diana's death. Bobby was back later. Church after the morning sermon the congregation went to fellowship. Aw a large room where parishioners gathered to talk and drink coffee. Bobby would have preferred to avoid this sin but she had decided to approach fellow parishioner. Who is an attorney. So she walked up to steve keeney with a smile but still visibly grief-stricken to talk to him. She explained to keeney that. A friend of hers had mentioned that he was competent lawyer. And a good way to start the conversation as you. You're good lawyer. She had lost her daughter and an accident. In april in california and her insurance company is giving her trouble over collecting her life insurance scything. This is reasonable. She can't afford attorney. He seemed like a nice guy involved in the church and she knew he was so seemed reasonable to go to him for at least a little advice. Were hurt right. Yeah but what she didn't understand is. He was a corporate attorney. He really didn't deal with a lot of things like this so he had thought to tell bobby that this wasn't really his thing but he hesitated because she clearly needed help and he could tell that she really wasn't comfortable asking for his help so she must have really needed it and she seemed like a nice person so he agreed that he would hear her out. Her story seemed fairly straightforward. Bobby's daughter had fallen from cliff while sightseeing in big sur. The funeral had cost about three thousand dollars. Bobby's teachers insurance policy would cover these burial costs. But not until the coroner issued a final death certificate. The monterey coroner's office told her that the final certificate still hadn't been filed but to bobby. This explanation didn't make any sense. Wrote in a sense is cut and dried. there is a mishap at the top of the cliffs. She fell she succumbed from her injuries. Yet would seem that way and told him things up. Exactly so keeney gave bobby business car. And he told her to calm next week and he would see what he could do for. Her is thinking sometimes. A letter from an attorneys. All you needed to move things along. I'll absolutely that trip now. So what bobby did was not call that. She showed up at his office. The very next day kini was surprised but he had offered his help and it wasn't going to turn her away. So the annex insurance company which service louisville's man highschool where bobby tut confirmed her account. Before they process the claim they needed the final death certificate the certificate on file. Listed diana's cause of death as pending so keaney had his secretary connect him with the monterey california coroner's office and he explained the problem to sergeant glen brown. Yeah but according to sergeant brown. It wasn't as as filing an amended certificate with the cause of death. The case was still open. As far as investigators were concerned keeney should send a letter requesting the certificate and he'd get it when the case was closed brown told him so keeney sent a letter on his official letterhead and told bobby he would see that. She was paid soon so she could move forward in her life but he really had no idea what he was getting himself. Into this case this was going to go on and on there was a lot more to it than he knew at the time his just go down into the rabbit hole now yes exactly so on august fifth just about two weeks after sending this letter. Keeney received a call from sergeant brown brown. Wanted to lucchini know that he had been contacted by state farm insurance. There is thirty five thousand dollar life insurance policy and diana. the primary beneficiary was james coats. Who we've mentioned earlier as Supposedly diana's fiancee or fiancee to be. Yes but that's only. According to the mcguinness's deanna had never said that. So the chief of life claims they're a guy named mike hatch had told brown that deanna had come in and filled out a life. Insurance application naming coats is the beneficiary once it was approved. Virginia come back in and paid for the policy. And this was on april first the day before diana died so let that sink in one day before she died wonder. So kini was pretty stunned. Deanna had purchased life insurance on the day before falling off a cliff to her. Death didn't seem likely sergeant brown was pretty stunned himself by this at the scene of her death. The mcguinness's were asked outright if they knew of any insurance policies connected with deanna and they said no. So that's clearly ally. They couldn't have forgotten overnight. These people were at the scene and they were the ones who had paid for life insurance on her but according to brown the police had only put together some notes and decided that anything about foul play was just speculative so sitting in his office that afternoon kini was thinking about the odds of someone being pushed off of a cliff for insurance money. There were over two hundred fifty million people in the us and under twenty five thousand murders every year so it was a long shot of about ten thousand one also thirty five thousand dollars just didn't seem like enough of an incentive to kill someone in risk spending your life in prison also who would be so obvious as to murder someone the day after purchasing life insurance on her. Not someone real bright. No but nobody ever accused. Virginia of being bright. Well maybe a little devious clever in some ways yes. Thirty five thousand dollars. It sounds lak- miniscule son. Well when you think about someone's life certainly right but if you do several of them it adds up. Well yeah it does. And i think that by having a smaller amount rather be fewer questions were foreshadowing a little. Bit here folks. Certainly so later that night keeney continued to go over. Deanna situation in his mind he had never heard of a fiance to to be either either and he wondered why anyone would be allowed to purchase life insurance based on such flimsy relationship so he decided he's going to cost state farm the next day he had dealt with insurance companies before and he understood that any interaction with an insurance company could soon a bureaucratic nightmare. In addition california is one of the toughest states when it came to life insurance payouts. Recently the california courts had created a new legal claim called wrongful denial of life insurance so unscrupulous insurers had delayed tang legitimate claims and they would keep the extra months interest to themselves now again in case by case is not that much but put them all together could earn the millions of dollars in a year. That's a gold mine. Yeah those big companies. I just care going to judges. And juries awarded millions in punitive damages against one ensure who had put off paying a forty five thousand dollars death benefit yet for that reason so that might explain why an insurance company would go ahead and pay a smaller claim rather than risk. This jerk would but we know that state farm insurance had very deep pockets with seventeen billion yearly proceeds. He thought that they would rather pay out this thirty five thousand dollars on diana's policy than risk those punitive damages for balking so this was just economic common sense but mike hatch was still in contact with the police four months. After diana's death that's unusual. So keeney called up mike hatch. Who immediately knew the case he was calling about kini was beginning to think. Bobby might be able to collect on this thirty five thousand dollar policy. Because diana's relationship with his james coates was very suspect. Deanna had still been married to j. wild remember so she couldn't be legally engaged to james coats. If an engagement is even a legal thing not sure about that state farm would still be required to pay out the amount to someone and if jay wild was found to be ineligible or he declined taking the money. Bobby might be able to collect under california's trusts and estate loss. But hatch said he wasn't really concerned right then about who what. The investigative work for state farm was being done by their senior referral unit and they could deny coverage completely if deanna had lied on her application and no payouts. Were expected any time soon. And so kenny asked or why since clan still being investigated and hatch said that after virginia mcginnis tried to collect on behalf of james coats. All of the beneficiaries were interviewed and they all gave the same story. But billy joel mcginnis had come in the same day and filled out an application for life insurance on himself but because of his poor health. He had no chance of getting insured. So james coats primary beneficiary indiana's policy was virginia son in virginia and bj mcginnis were named as successive beneficiaries. James coats definitely had an alibi for the time of diana's death he was actually in state prison for pearl violation. That's a pretty good alibi. Yes he had quite a rap sheet. Virginia had made the claim for him using a power of attorney hatch conceded that the facts of the case were troubling but the thirty five thousand dollars was really one of the smallest life claims. His company had that year. Keeney went to bobby with what he learned so far and he explained that there was a possibility. That diana's death was not an accident. He told her about that state farm policy. Bobby said that. Diana would not have purchased life insurance. She also didn't think deanna would wear high heels out on a scenic day-trip. Bobby had been relieved at first to hear that diana had found some older people to live within san diego but now she really didn't know what to think about this. Virginia mcginnis bobby really had no interest in the thirty five thousand dollars for herself in fact she was disgusted by it to her. It was like blood money but keeney explained that tying up the claim would buy some time to figure out what really happened to her daughter so she agreed to that. I'm like in this guy keeney. Yes he's kind of a hero of the story in many ways. So bobby remembered that. The day. After diana died virginia called her and she had seen kind telling her what a beautiful person deanna was. She even told bobby that she knew how she felt because she herself had lusted daughter in an accident as well. Now this made kinney's ears perk right up. The idea of virginia being somehow involved in two accidental deaths seem suspicious to him. So bobby's approval. Keeney sent a letter to mike hatch to try and hold up the state farm payout while they waited for a response keeney wanted to put together an investigative team with state farm and the monterey police. He s bobby together up any facts that could help and any letters pictures from deanna. Since she known the mcginnis family just after dna died. Virginia had sent bobby some photos she said were taken on the trip. Up the coast on april second and she agreed to bring them to keeney to look over. When diana's death certificate the pathologist's report and the coroner's register arrived by mail kiedis office. He was hoping all would be explained. He was really hoping it wasn't accident. That pathologist's report included a physical exam of diana's body and toxicology reports from her blood and urine samples. Her blood tested negative for alcohol and narcotics but to drugs were found indiana's urine and these were ama- tripped elaine and nor tripling the report didn't give amounts and it didn't explain the effects of these drugs when keeney looked into this. He learned that these drugs were the ingredients of the brand name drug. Ll this is a prescription antidepressant. The older kind. It's a tri cyclic antidepressant. And one of the major side effects is sedation in nor- triple in an amateur dylan then nor trip to leninism tablet of emma tripton. So that's why both of them would be there. Deanna did have a history of using drugs in a recreational fashion. But she wasn't a pill taker then. Ll really isn't a drug you're gonna take to get high anyway. You're gonna do it for the opposite. May wanna sleep or something that if you take a single dose without being stabilized on the drug you can get dizzy. Then feel sedated. So there's no street market for eligible. Dna had not been prescribed eligible. Though what are we doing with it in her body so that's something they definitely needed to look into but unfortunately they didn't get the levels they only said it was present so there were some mistakes made in the initial investigation and autopsy but fortunately they had kept some blood so they'd be able to do that leader on our guys dick here as we were finishing the recording of an episode. 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Sarah bellum had shredding laceration so the cause of death was basil brain laceration due to a basal skull fracture. No that's the cause of death in a sense it's nice and she died pretty quickly once that happened. We don't know what she went through before that we don't enough. She hit her head on iraq or someone hit her but when occurred death is pretty instantaneous. Yes so the report also showed that the nfl was not a headlong plummet. Like keenan. bobby had imagined it appeared as you were telling us before. Joe that the end had tumbled down a slope breaking her bones and hitting her head on iraq breaking her skull so coming down the hill till you get to the cliff. Part of it seems like it. Yes so the coroner's register was less document and is summarized the incident. Bj mcginnis said explain it. He was standing alongside of deanna and virginia was taking their picture. There is standing with their backs to the ocean about two feet away from the edge of the cliff. Virginia had finished taking a photo and bj had walked away from deanna towards their parked car when he in virginia turned in the direction where dna had been standing. She wasn't there they walk back to the site and looked over. the edge. Didn't see her but they did see one of blue pumps over the edge about twenty feet below looking out further. They could cdn laying on the rocks at the bottom of the cliff head. Remember that's really not possible. But that's what they said they said that. And it's not possible because it's not a straight drop to gradual drop for several feet and then it drops down yes. So according to the mcguinness's they immediately went to call for help right. In the first two interviews with bj mcginnis. Nothing was found to indicate foul play. Deanna had been wearing heels and they were scraped on the sides and the heels. Her fall was not witnessed but the shoes could have caused her to lose her balance and fall though. The report concluded that there was nothing to indicate foul play. Heaney did notice several errors and inconsistencies in these reports. The mcguinness's had claimed that they pulled off the road to take photos of the sunset but the sun actually wouldn't set in that area until around seven pm. There were no signed witness statements. Taken by the mcguinness's either. There was no list of the people at the scene and no reference to any photos taken at the scene also. On the report there was no mention of the mcguinness's hearing any screams or calls for help from deanna so keen followed up by calling back sergeant brown and asking more questions. Brown confirmed that no accident scene photos had been taken by the police. Virginia mcguinness had agreed to send the police the photos that she had taken at the scene. But guess what she just never sent. Those along must've forgot druce slipped my mind. Yup in august. Bobby came into kenny's office with photos that virginia had sent her and he took the negatives out of the kodak paper envelope to have them developed in case. Virginia hens sent some suspicious. Wants to bobby. Maybe she had kind of edited out. The ones didn't want her to see. But bobby also had a letter of condolence sent to her by virginia beckon april and keeney read this and it read. Deanna was like a puppy who gave a lot of love and needed a lot of love. Deanna enjoyed taking the dog out for a walk in the parking fields. I guess she stopped to look at flowers and nature. In general we left san diego to drive north and she was so excited about seeing san francisco. Chinatown and fisherman's wharf. Deanna was just bubbly all day. Deanna wanted to go back to college here and we wanted to help her. Deanna was a sweet girl gentle and full of love with our deepest sympathy. Bj and virginia mcginnis tests. And i read it that way. Because apparently virginia had this kind of syrupy sweet way of talking. It was kind of her cover to be the sweet older maternal person. It works so the next day. The developed photos arrived keeney. Spread them out in sequence. Each of the fifteen shots might help put together a story of what had happened that day. So just glancing at them. They seem to match virginia story of their sightseeing trip. That ended with tragic accident photos one into were of scenery photos. Three and four were full length. Portraits of deanna posing happily in jeans sunglasses and blue pumps keeney wondered if the high heels were included in the shot on purpose. Well yeah. I kind of wonder that till like as proof that she was wearing unstable shoes. Yeah photo five. Shot through a car window. It should the mcguinness's working toward a line of boulders at the cliff edge yes so that one seemed like it was taken by deanna from inside the car so you kinda have to wonder what deanna was thinking was. She starting to get wise to this. Was she getting nervous in the picture of the couple looked like this ordinary working class couple but that shot really bothered keeney. It was poorly framed. Like maybe deanna wasn't quite as alert as normal photo six was a close up of deanna and bj. They smiled for the photo. The cliffs and the pacific ocean in the background and the anos resting her head on. Pj shoulder and she looked very sleepy. His arm is curled around her shoulders. Photos seven through ten were all shots at bj. Indiana in front of more cliffs and rocks than photo eleven was taken from behind showing bj standing beside the deanna added cliff edge. Bj's right arm was hovering at the end is back and deanna appeared to be looking down over the edge. Molest four photos were more scenic shots in the final frame. The view is down over a ledge showing a beach. Hundreds of feet below so that picture number eleven with bj's arm hovering at her bat. It looks like he's about to push her. When you look at it so you have to wonder why virginia would take a picture of that. Did she get some kind of thrill out of this. I think it's possible. It was like a trophy to her. But basically i mean in all did support her story while her son. James coates was in prison. Virginia said she brought in his fiancee. Deanna to live with them. She said she bought her future. Daughter-in-law an insurance policy and the next day they took a trip along the way. Deanna took some of bj mcguinness's ll. She got woozy and fell. So it made sense kind of until keeney saw photo eleven now. He actually had that photo enlarge to poster size and to him. It was if a new witness had come forward because when you could see it in that much detail up close deanna and bj were standing at the edge of the turnout. Indiana did look easy. The position was strange to the toes of her. Blue high heels pointed between bj's feet and her feet were parallel to her shoulders but her face was turned and blurred as if she'd been moving it to turn and look over the edge so it certainly looked like bj had control of her and may have been moving her toward the edge. It also appeared. That bj was looking over his right shoulder towards the highway. His right arm was pressed against diana's back and both of his legs were bent forward like he was moving toward the edge. It looked to keeney like deanna knew what was about to happen to her which is a horrible thought. He showed the blown-up image. To bobby. Who agreed with his interpretation but they both knew that all they really had so far where their suspicions and they probably should jump to any conclusions. Just yet though. The police had not taken photos at the scene. Of the anna's fall the pathologist taken couple dozen shots at various points in her autopsy so the photos. Show dana's body lying on a topsy table. There were visible scrapes and bruises on her hands and feet her hair was matted with blood most of the abrasions and contusions were on her right side. Linear scrape marks made. It look like she had slid down the cliff and this is a four hundred foot cliff. Yes very high even on the elbow. She would have been scrubbing anything. She could to try to save herself her. Only fatal injury was the blow to her head which could have happened by hitting her head on iraq or she could have been hit with a blunt object thrown then she would have slid down and grabbed up the rocks to photo show black and blue marks on the back of her hands her acrylic fingernails were broken enough so the broken nails were santa's as defensive lines. Yes so we were thinking the broken nails or from grabbing at the rocks but the pathologist thought those could be defensive wounds if she was attacked prior to the fall good point. Yeah so that suggested that. The injuries to the backs of her he ends may have come from one of the mcguinness's either stepping on her hands as she clung to the ledge or banging it with a rock who knows but with these injuries and that life insurance policy homicide really did have to be considered here detective. Donald smythe a sixteen year member of the police force who had been hiking. The big sur cliffs for years read the file on diana's death and he called up keeney he said that the mcguinness's story sounded hinky to him. He said that people do fall from big sur. Lookouts but it's only when they try something risky like climbing partway down or posing on one leg or doing a handstand. Something foolish usually done by younger. Male also no one falls without making a sound if no scream was heard the mcguinness's would've at least her body hitting the rocks. Smyth wanted to bring the case to the da but he wanted to get all the incriminating details. He could. I and kini was happy enough to help him. So they teamed up so in august twenty fifth keeney sent smith of five page single space letter copies of the cliffside photos. In a summary of the pathologist opinion more would be needed before charging mcguinness's this seemed to be a good start. Heaney's able to convince the anna's mom to cough. Virginia and record the conversation a tape would allow them to go over what had been said word by word so in september. Bobby sat down with kenyan or living room and she called virginia after several. Minutes of talking about the anna. Bobby was able to steer the conversation toward virginia's on daughter's death so cynthia that's the daughter was three years old when she died. In december. Nineteen seventy two by hanging. According to what your janine told bobby. They were living in louisville on a farm and they had some horses. Cynthia went into the barn. Climbed on top of attractor got tangled in some wine hanging from the rafters. So she's found by virginia hanged. The death by the twine in the barn virginia had life insurance and cynthia and collected nine disclosed amount in a settlement. So also two years later in nineteen seventy four. Virginia's second husband bud had cancer and she insisted on treating him at home. She claimed to be a nurse but she didn't have a degree or license so but died in the home alone with virginia and his death was also considered suspicious. He'd been overdosed with painkillers once before and survived and then he died weeks later from what was another overdose. But it's hard to prove if that was done on purpose because when someone's in pain like that you give them a lot of drugs you don't really worry about that if they're dying right but we don't really know if he was that seriously ill. It seemed like she really kind of rushed him to his grave and again she collected life insurance money. So bobby and virginia spoke for over forty minutes when asked why she didn't call bobby on the day. Dna died virginia. Claimed that she didn't have. Bobby's phone number and the police wouldn't give it to her. But bobby's phone number was listed. Then bobby asked about the elevator. Found indiana's blood. Virginia said yes. Bj had prescription for ll. It's a mood elevator. Virginia said that the elevate tablets looked a lot like admiral tablets. And maybe deanna had taken it by mistake. She also said she didn't know if dna had taken one or more but she didn't believe that it would make her sleepy at all and she repeated a couple of times that. Ll did not make you sleepy. But then she contradicted herself by saying that. Bj took the elevator to help him sleep. But it's just strange that she kept insisting. It wouldn't make you sleepy porno contradicting yourself not slightly. So she wasn't super smart. She was devious now and asked why diana had been wearing high heels while out sightseeing on the cliffs. Virginia claim that diana love. Those shoes wouldn't wear anything else. But bobby new. If virginia told her you need to wear sneakers she would award sneakers. She was very pliable. So then bobby mentioned the photos of deanna posing on a rock with the blue high heels. Showing virginia wanted to make sure that bobby had seen that photo. And this seemed to confirm that virginia had purposely taken photos of the shoes in case they weren't found after the. Nfl says she could show yes. She probably stumbled on the shoes. Bobby approached the conversation as a grieving. Mother finding support from another grieving mother. So she really did a good job at this call when she inquired about the life. Insurance virginia explained that they had gone into increase the life insurance for bj and deanna had said what about me. What am i chopped liver so. According to virginia. Diana wanted life insurance which really made no sense men whatsoever. So virginia had claimed that the coroner would not give her. Bobby's number to call her. On the day of the steph that the anna wanted life insurance that bj wanted to increase his life insurance. Even had none and that her three-year-old daughter had died of an accidental hanging. That one that just bothers me. How can you look at that scene of a three-year-old yes on hanging and stay was exit dental i now and she got away with that. Got me there. yes in. Who really gets life insurance on their three-year-old unless you're getting that kind. When they grow up they get money out of it. But it wasn't that kind no who was purchased with the intent of it. Being used certainly seems that way. Yes which is just on imaginable. But what bothered bobby and keeney. More than anything was just how normal virginia had sounded as she discussed these tragic deaths now. They were convinced. That virginia was guilty. After that phone. Cau- kini was able to get a copy of the life insurance application between deanna and state farm and the only limitation for a payout with suicide murder and homicide were not mentioned in the document. It was signed by diana in her large loopy schoolgirl. Like writing but the names of the beneficiaries primary beneficiary james coats age thirty supposed- fiance successor. Virginia mcginnis age fifty supposed- mother to be were all written in the scratchy smaller. Writing there was a witness signature supposedly signed by a neighbor and this one was determined to be forged. Virginia mcginnis when handwriting expert was brought in and part of this. Is that the witnesses last name had been misspelled and normally people don't misspell their own. Last name yes and forgot to tell. Virginia that she's doing that stuff. Make sure she gets the spelling down. Yeah it's a basic thing is that that's an easy one to picka. Yes so a photocopy of virginia's check for sixty eight thousand ten cents payable state. Farm was stapled unless pay to the application. This was the first quarterly payment. The life insurance agent spoke of akini and explained that the first time virginia contacted him about buying life insurance for diana was in late february mrs two months before she died virginia the time it said she needed life. Insurance signed deanna so she could get a passport to travel to mexico. That's not a thing. I'm not sure of the connection and there isn't one then. A few days later. Virginia called again asking more questions about getting life insurance on deanna because she was engaged to her son james coats. She brought deanna into his office. But diana said nothing. The agent was looking into insurance. James indiana but virginia said. That's not necessarily. James already has plenty of insurance which we would find out. He had none where he wasn't getting any of this either well now but he didn't have any on himself now. So why are you going ensure your son's fiancee not him. The whole thing was just very hokey. Did make sense doesn't fit all so in late february. Virginia deanna and bj all came into the insurance office together. Virginia said that both bj and deanna needed life insurance but beach was not insurable because of his health issues. Still virginia wanted to ensure deanna. She said that. Deanna wanted to thirty five thousand dollars policy and virginia named who the beneficiary would be as diana just sat there saying nothing. The agent had sent indiana's application feeling. Pretty sure that it would be denied. He said you know. Actually no one comes in this office to buy life insurance. Normally we have to seek people out and sell insurance to them. Plus diana's just twenty years old and she doesn't have any children twenty year olds. Don't normally purchase life insurance just not a priority for from yes. The primary beneficiary james coats never even came into the office with forty years of experience. The agent had never before had a case of one fiancee buying insurance. That was not reciprocal. But the underwriters went ahead with this policy surprising him. So diana's policy came in on march thirty first and the next day april first virginia. Indiana showed up and virginia wrote the check for the first quarterly payment. It was virginia not deanna. Who took the policy from his hand. And then as she put it in her purse she asked now this enforce right and it covers accidental death right and he said yes covering our basis here now he did have a bad feeling about it when he sent it off to the company but once they approved it he let it go now so then a week later. This is a few days after. Deanna had died. Virginia showed up at the office to collect. She had a sling on her arm. When asked if she had heard so she said as just an old injury that flares up from time to time. So you've got wonder there. Was this some kind of defensive wound from deanna. Trying to save herself from virginia because there was really never an explanation for why she was wearing that sling and unfortunately the police never took pictures of her arms or anything. Regina then told the agent that the anna had died by falling off a cliff sir while he was stunned. Let me tell you your but not virginia. She is not at all emotional about this. Tragic accident the asian asked for contact information for the coroner and police to go through the normal procedures. Virginia said that the police had put her through the third degree and she just wanted to know when she could get her check. She was really more annoyed than upset. Why were the police. Giving me a hard time and win. Can i get my money. Basically so keeney asked the insurance agent what he thought about diana's death and he said he might not think too much about it. But this was not virginia's first insurance claim back in december of nineteen eighty. Five virginia purchased a homeowner's policy then in nineteen eighty six. She claimed one thousand dollars for windstorm damage later that same year. She claimed a nine thousand dollar burglary loss two days after that she claimed an eight hundred dollar water damage loss that october virginia. Insured a datsun pickup and six days after ensuring it she claimed that her house had been burglarized and the pickup had been stolen so the police eventually found the truck abandoned in san diego vacant lot but oddly the datsun had not been stripped usually if a car is stolen a thief will strip it to sell off parts. But the datsun was intact and had been set on fire. The radio was even still in the dashboard. All four tires were there so this was definitely suspicious but they went ahead and paid the claim. Also in nineteen eighty. Five virginia had bought a policy on a home in palo alto in hers her mother's names and then the house burned to the ground and the insurance paid her one hundred twenty five thousand dollars for that so i'm just shocked that she's able to keep purchasing insurance because before she came out to california she also had a couple of houses burned down so keeney secretary started helping him out. She was interested in this case and she looked into cynthia. Lean coats death which happened in nineteen seventy two. She was able to find the detective. Who had investigated cynthia's death this was detective. Rd jones now he was still working for the jefferson county police department. Jones shared cynthia's file with keeney. Now he had done the best he could at the time but cynthia's case had been his first and he now with his experience that he would have handled some things differently but the case had been closed now for fifteen years beck. When cynthia had died the louisville medical examiner's office was not the best either. Coroners were elected and often didn't have any medical background at all. The majority were funeral home directors. But some are even plumbers and carpenters. The detective jones had kept the case file as well as some evidence from cynthia's death. He had the twin she had hung on in an evidence envelope. Jones told keeney that the case never sat right with him. He had not seen ligature marks on her neck. Usually the first thing you would notice in a hanging detected jones token story about the day cynthia died. This is a story hit. Never told anyone else. On wednesday december six nineteen seventy two. Jake miller a police officer who lived across the street from virginia. When oda help. Virginia and her husband bed listen brickwork on the chimney but it become too ill to finish the job so jake offered to help for small fee that morning. He laid bricks in the living room and virginia's baking in the kitchen. Cynthia was happily playing around and ran through the living room. Saying was her fireplace in giggling. Yes she was described as just a cutie pie a rambunctious little girl so jake stopped working at two thirty that afternoon and he had a shift at the police station at three he was a little late checking into work at three o five then just five minutes later. There was an emergency call. From virginia's house. Jake was called out there and he was thinking. Oh my god. I hope nobody got hurt by my brickwork or something but when he arrived in officer was giving cynthia mouth-to-mouth resuscitation but was frantic but virginia was eerily calm. The police put cynthia in the back of their cruiser and continued. Cpr's they raced to the hospital in virginia road along in the front seat just looking forward not leaning over concerned about her daughter not helping resuscitate her just sitting there along for the ride and after they got to the hospital. Cynthia was pronounced dead at three fifty five. Pm so at the hospital. Virginia was pulled aside and ask some questions. She said that. Cynthia wanted to go for a ride on her pony. When she in. Cynthia went out to the barn. She said the pony had run off and when she returned to the barn after looking for the pony she found cynthia hanging by her neck. By some wine looped over the rafter detective jones had been sent out to examine the scene and he found bales of hay stacked about three feet high behind riding tractor mower a cut loop of twine still hung from that rafter but interestingly the horse stalls were in a different section of the barn not connected to the room where the child had died so she wanted to ride her pony. She wasn't even in the right area so he took photos any coiled up the twine and went into the house to interview. Virginia's father who was living there at the time. Kristie hoffman christie. Told detective jones that he was inside of the house and he heard virginia calling for him. He looked outside and sovereign jinya standing in the yard. Yelling something about cynthia and the horse christie went out to the barn and cut the girl down. He tried to resuscitate her but it was too late already. So jones. tolkien. Virginia did not seem very upset. She was unemotional even cold. Another thing. it didn't seem right to him was it was very cold day. It was december. The area around the farmers very muddy wasn't the kind of data take three three-year-old out on her pony. And i would have to say maybe a three year old should be out running around with farm equipment and everything. Maybe we could say that. I think it'd be fair. Also virginia had given two different explanations of what she had been doing when cynthia died. Yes and those narratives of cynthia's death indiana's death kind of had a lot. in common. In both cases the victim was separated from virginia for only a couple of minutes and she found them dead. Both of them were. Do at the hospital in both cases. Virginia said she didn't hear or see anything she had just been minding our own business and in both of these cases virginia had a supportive and easily manipulated witness on hand her father christie and then her husband. Bj when looking over the photos taken by virginia at the time of diana's death keeney secretary noticed something significant that keeney hadn't the last four photos were of scenery but think about it. If dna had fallen and virginia ran over to the coast gallery store to call for help immediately as she had claimed the photos of d. n. Bj should have been the last ones taken right or yard. Herman a difficult time figuring out. Why you take four more pictures. Yeah right so. This punched a whole new hole in virginia story after de. Nfl virginia had taken her time to snap more photos. Maybe she wanted to wait and make sure dan was dead. There was really no way of knowing how long dna was down on those rocks before virginia called for help now as i mentioned earlier with diana's son james he had a really long rap sheet. But both of virginia's sons had very extensive rap sheets since he was nineteen. James coats had been arrested for assault with a deadly weapon selling drugs a hit and run and burglary and then in nineteen seventy seven james shot and killed the san francisco drug dealer and he was convicted of second degree murder while in prison. He assaulted another inmate and then he was caught with drugs in his cell but despite all of this he was paroled in nineteen eighty two. And if you haven't kept track that is five years to his. Yes so that's second degree murder assault and drug possession right and he didn't behave in prison either. Their infractions in prison ro somehow got paroled. He did within six months though. He was rearrested for receiving stolen property and he got two more years in prison in february of nineteen eighty seven while he was out on parole again. He was arrested for theft. He was in jail until april first. David virginia paid for diana's life insurance and then he was transferred to the state prison so he had a rock solid alibi for the day. Of diana's death for us kini was able to find virginia's ex husband. Richard coates who told him about other house fires in her past and other insurance claims she had collected on but he said he was not the father of cynthia coats. He in virginia had actually broken up in nineteen sixty six three years before cynthia was born. When james coates was released from prison the first thing he did was trying to collect on. Diana's life insurance policy and obviously they denied doing that. They would not give him the money when no criminal charges were forthcoming. Kini and diana's mom bobby agreed to file a wrongful death lawsuit. They knew that the mcguinness's didn't have any money but it wasn't about the money bobby didn't want any money. It was about holding virginia accountable. So subpoenas were filed on virginia but she repeatedly failed to appear in court. She just didn't show up so the judge ruled against her and she was ordered to pay two hundred fifty thousand dollars to bobby plus interest but there was no way she was ever paying it and she never paid any of it but monterey county still wouldn't file criminal charges so what keeney did is. He approached the authorities in san diego with what he knew because the life insurance policy. On diana's life was purchased their the. Da they're made the decision to indict. Virginia and bj mcginnis for diana's murder but bj never made it to court. He died of aids in jail before the trial began. James coates was in prison at the time of the trial and he was called as a witness for the fats in. Oh what a scumbag. Oh just an awful person. You can see his testimony on youtube and he's just yucky for lack of a better word. Makes you scream crow. Absolutely that's a good way to put it. But the trial was actually moved outdoors near the cliff. Where diana had died. They did that for two days and jurors got to get a good look at the scene of her fog. Get a good feel for it. None of the insurance money went to virginia her husband or her son thankfully and the jury found virginia guilty of first degree murder with special circumstances which were murder for profit that made her eligible for the death penalty but on march thirtieth nineteen ninety two. She was sentenced to life in prison without the possibility of parole. Diana's mother bobby was at the trial and she and some supportive relatives sat in the back of the courtroom. She was able to make a victim. Impact statement in the sentencing phase but then virginia was able to stand in make a short statement. And she said. Bobby i don't have a guilty conscience about what happened. Can you say as much cheese so at the actual fuck. She's blaming the mother trying to make the mother feel guilty. What a horrible horrible person. That just confirms it to me though. Virginia served nineteen years of a prison sentence. She died in prison of natural causes on june. Twenty fifth. two thousand eleven she seventy four years old. Virginia's believed by many investigators and witnesses to be guilty of formers her three-year-old daughter cynthia coats deanna wild for mother. Mary agnes hoffman. Who died under suspicious circumstances in virginia's home and her former husband but weirding each of these victims were insured and virginia was named as beneficiary so basically a serial killer with a definite mo. Yeah and. i'm just thinking i. On the one hand it seems so elemental that she should have been picked up before then were identified but she got away with it and i. I suspect that if this guy keeney hadn't been involved she might have gotten away with this one. It really seems that way. I mean they had held up the death certificate so there were some concerns but they really weren't putting the manpower into it so it was pretty good. That keeney did this then. Things would just kind of stagnant and were moving forward urges sitting. It says she kinda seemed to know what she was doing though with doing. These smaller amounts on people's lives. Because if it had been five hundred thousand or two hundred fifty thousand there probably would have been more of an investigation by the insurance company but these are corporations and they're going by cost benefit analysis right so they're not going to put too much effort into that amount of money which is nothing to them for them. Spare chain thousand dollars chickenfeed. 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All right. i'm gonna give you the first one from rebecca with a case suggestion. My name is rebecca. I'm from the cincinnati area in southwest ohio. I'm a new listener. But very addicted to your podcast. I wanted to recommend a case the disappearance and murder of caitlyn markham from fairfield ohio. Her both attended the art institute of cincinnati in two thousand eleven. Our paths never did cross. She disappeared in two thousand eleven and her remains. Were eventually found. There's a ladder twists and turns lots of media coverage on the case as well but still no real answers. The boyfriend slash fiance was heavily suspected and another friend of hers also was what i found. Interesting was the murder of two other fairfield women between two thousand eleven and two thousand twelve that had similarities with the markham murder. Now there's an. Id channel show on this. I'd love to hear you guys discuss his interesting case. As far as a brute to recommend we have cincinnati-based brewery called ryan geiss brewery. They have a wide variety of options and my particular favorite is fruit ales. Which i think would appreciate i would. I'm sure rebecca also not beer but we have a local mediary called. dysfunctional delights. has some amazing needs. I love the name dysfunctional delights. Cranberry apple Peach blackberry my favorite. Thank you rebecca. This is interesting. I'm not going to go into details here because it's something we probably cover. But thank you for bringing that up. I wasn't aware of the other. Two murders at all so. We'll have to search for that. Id show we will so the next email is a case suggestion from lynn. Hi dick and jill. I wonder if you're familiar with the gruesome story of catherine night. So she sent us the wikipedia link. She is an australian woman. Who brutally murdered her partner. She skinned him and cooked some of his flesh to serve to his children only in australia. 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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (06/23)

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John & Ken Show Hour 4 (06/23)

"World justice system to the direction of the twenty century the public outraged by this. We need to use science to address public safety violent. Crime data tweet flawed. Your data and your fire is dangerous to the community of the county. We are very very concerned about ships solid cans public safety. I am outraged at that. The zone of implementing laws of his own personal choice which we voted the so in a way that it's much more physically and socially responsible that only be breaking the law but he is not doing what he is supposed to. The district attorney indicted protective victim. I truly believe that two years in the wrong often teach should have been a public defender. He voted in could be voted out on his gaskin threat. Crime is on a historic low in the nation's story. Closing save on the recall of la county district attorney. George gas gone jogging. Can yes sir. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio app. John will be back next. Week is got vacation. We're here at the george. Gold recall desk for the usual reasons. But you know again. It seems like every week is a couple of more stories. The latest is that a man who killed his estranged wife in santa clarita. Just got a prison term. Which would allow him to be released a murder. He actually admitted the murder. But because la county da. George gaskins office does not permit sentencing enhancements. They're limited to how much time this man could serve and he may be released from prison. And knowing the way the state's going it may not be that many healed his wife. Apparently the family is devastated over her death which was just a few months ago. We're gonna welcome back to this show. Desert andreotti her son was murdered. His name was julian he was murdered back in may of twenty eighteen by five suspects who thought he stole some of their. We'd was a repeated. Beating and stabbing was terrible terrible and they eventually drove up highway thirty nine and a zuza to the mountains to toss the body but they realized he was still alive so they stomped on his head. I mean this is disgusting. And the worst of the worst and again because of george gascon then not going to get the maximum time that they are certainly entitled to and desert has been leading the charge recall. George gaskin dot com is the website. Let's welcome back to the show for an update as to how it's going now that they're out there collecting signatures desert welcome. I can't how are you by the way what's that. Thank you for having me. Oh you're certainly welcome. You're always a great spokesperson for this. Call is and we understand that it's got off to a good start it has Been to vote and even are paid Signature gathers We've collected over sixty thousand signatures so far and we stopped thousands of other additional signatures that we still have not counted. verified or collected yet. So you're hoping that we can reach one hundred thousand hopefully by this weekend. I'm i'm really hoping so the total that you guys need is. We need five hundred ninety thousand by october twenty seven so this is definitely not a small task so we can continue to need all the volunteer financial support. We can get you know to ensure that we can collect these essential number of signatures that we need in a relatively short time to recall to get the recall on the ballot next year. Yeah i mean. October is just a few months away and you know what happens with these things. You can get the low hanging fruit quickly because a lot of people who tuned into this story were anxious to get the petitions and decided me me. I did it the first couple of days so but did right. It's going to be a grind over the next couple of months to get these additional registered voters in la county to sign up. That's correct that's correct so we're asking what you know what this means to to us if we need you. Your family friends co workers anyone registered. La county voter to go to recall. George gas scone printed signed a petition. You there you can. Volunteer to hold events contribute financially. If you can but again recall george going dot com print sign and mail the petition because you can find it and not mail it is. That doesn't help us. We need to be mailed in last week. He had that Press conference and again. He gets some of the media to show up just because he knows he's in trouble so he's trying to send out an anti recall message but there was really nothing to it. That's exactly it was a pathetic press. Conference is he. Is he's worried he's worried that this recall can actually succeed and i'm actually very hopeful that this will succeed we will. We will get him out of office near the difficulty with this recall. Is it a lot of people. Don't pay attention to one. Da does for a county. There was a big turnout last november. Because people were all whipped up over the presidential race and a lot of people voted for this guy just because On the ballot and the activists supported him and he looked like He was about reform and that was the big story last year. Criminal justice reform but what he has done with these directives. I think people wake up and realize the man in charge of the criminal justice system in elliott county is on the side of the criminals. I don't know if you've heard our guest yesterday a desharnais. But he's got these public defenders. He's taking public defenders in assigning them to positions in his office and they're going out and contacting the criminals to tell them. Don't worry we'll reduce your prison time. Just let us take care of. Have you ever heard this craziness. Never never act like a public defender so to hear that he's hiring. Public defenders does not surprise me. That's his speciality. He he wants to defend the victim but what he should be doing is move on to the public. The public defenders office. He doesn't need to be a district attorney. He's not acting like one you should not be one. And for that reason he needs to be recalled immediately. Any he writes off. People like you saying well. They're just they're grieving mothers. They're overwhelmed with their emotions. Understand how it works and again to try to sell this and this is what he tried to sell the more time. We put people in prison. The more recidivism. There's going to be. That's upside down as you make sense. It doesn't make any sense and for him to dismiss us victims. That's another reason why he should not be a district attorney. A district attorney is to be there for the people to be there for the victims not to turn their back. And and again have me relive moments revictimizes not only myself but so many other victims out there who in their right mind a district attorney would do that to their victim. Okay so again. The website is recalled. George gascoyne dot com and it says here you have some features that allow people to view and post to pop up signature gathering events on a master calendar. Yes that's correct. It's very easy to see you. Can if you're if you're going to be a pop up signature gathering. Just put your information in there. And that way. When people are looking for a petition locations they can find it. There's also permanent petition locations that you can find there as well very easy very cool to look at all right now. I don't wanna put you on the spot. But i have to ask you this question because i'm aware of it. What is called. George gaskell now dot com. Is that a competing recall effort or is it a joint effort. I can't figure this out you know. I believe it's I think it's a competing. I'm not sure. I haven't looked into it. I did hear about it. I was actually gonna look into that. I'm glad you reminded me about that. i believe in maybe compete. I don't believe it's a joint effort. we have. we only have recall. George dot com. Okay because when people are out there with petitions they may not sign yours. Sign the other. Recall and i just wanted to get this straightened out. Hopefully there's a way 'cause this was kind of going on with the newsom. Recall hoping there's a way you guys can combine forces because that's just not really a good thing to half. I agree. I agree. And i will definitely look into that. All right does right. Thanks for coming on again. We appreciate your enthusiasm and all your hard work for this effort. Yes thank you for having me appreciate it. Thank you for getting out to the public. Okay disarray on trading is our guest. Her son was murdered back in just a few years ago by five guys who were disgusting. They tortured her son and they eventually Beat him further because they realized he was still alive. The reason she's taken up the cause is because la county district attorney. George going is not going to pursue special circumstances that included deadly weapon kidnapping robbery. These charges would have put them away for life without parole if convicted but because of gascons reforms all special charges were dismissed in court which means these guys can get out in very short order. That's why she's become a big part of the effort at recall. George gascon dot com author. Good start sixty thousand signatures. But that's only about ten percent of what they need so go there. Download the petition. Donate money be part of the effort. This is an important thing to do. John and ken show kfi. Hey johnny kidd show ten kobylt. Ken chiampou live everywhere here on. Kfi on the iheartradio app. The voice line is finding. Its way back to the airwaves in fact two days from now at this very time. We'll be playing moist line. Callers you wanna be a part of it call one eight seven seven moist eighty six one eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six. Get your calls in there. And maybe you'll hear yourself on the airwaves. The la county sheriff. Alex via wave is gonna join me after five thirty. He held a long news conference event. Today i got to watch a good chunk of it made a presentation to the media. What he calls the architects of failure when it comes to la county's homelessness crisis. Can you take a guess who the architects of failure would be. I'll ask him about that. But of course it's the usual suspects. The mayor the city council the board of supervisors that los angeles homeless services agency which does nothing but spent a billion dollars a year. I really can't believe that. There's a couple of la city councilman want to remove l. a. from that agencies grip it's unbelievable and wave. He expression that we point a homelessness industrial complex a six and a half billion dollars down the drain in the last ten years for homelessness and now we may have eighty thousand homeless people in la county. So i'll go over what he tried because the media then not respond to this really. Well i don't imagine. I didn't stay around to see what the questions were. But i can only imagine that. It was not a welcoming environment for the only major public official to take on the problem of the homeless. I remember debra mark. I told you the other day that i Got into a bit of road rage. Yeah you flip somebody off you remember it i. Oh by the way. The breaking news of the tiny earthquake in the four el segundo. Yes yes i told you. I was wondering hermosa beach. There's something going on down there in the south bay. I'm getting out are you. You want to come to my neck of the woods and the west san fernando valley. It's worse earthquake. You got the heat. Three point four okay. So everybody's okay everybody's okay just a few plates shook If even if it's just a blip but it could be a harbinger of big one could so get of the desk right. Can you imagine now so imagine this. This is why we tell you to approach with caution when you're out there on the roads just before two pm on june fourteenth according to seal beach police officials a man from hemmitt got into a road rage incident any took out bear spray and he sprayed it on the family fighting with his name. Is marcus kelly. They caught up with them. The drivers of the two cars were southbound on pch. They got into some sort of verbal altercation. One of the drivers turned off a pca to get some distance. Then parked got out the other driver followed pulled up next to the car and sprayed him in the car with hairspray because the park vehicles windows were down the spray got inside where there were three people including a child now now it's an irritating aerosolize deterrent similar to pepper spray. It's even stronger. Didn't somebody have that. At the capitol. Insurrections have pepper sprayed. Yeah the suspect. You of southbound. Sage was a was not immediately caught. They did suffer some injuries including skin irritation. But he's been taken into custody and They finally caught up with them was out there in the roads. Bear spray coming up next. The la county sheriff. Alex villanueva fresh off his press conference today with the media over his efforts to do something about the homelessness crisis. Talks to me coming up. John and ken show. Kfi am six forty. John and ken show john kobylt. Ken chiampou john a week. Off out here with debra mark. Lena the news updates chance right now to talk once again to la county. Sheriff alex via the waiver who had a news conference this morning about efforts in the county and do something about the homeless crisis and of course he made news a couple of weeks go because he announced he was sending his deputies along with outreach teams into venice. Try to do something about The thousands of homeless people that have taken over a lot of public space. So we're gonna bring the sheriff on right now and talk to them and get an update on everything. Welcome back to the show and a waiver. Thank you can how you doing. I'm doing just great. I watched about twenty minutes of your presentation. I was quite impressed. You are really and you have decided to take on and you even use the term. The wo- crowd. You pointed out very early on in your news. Conference who the architects of failure are in the homeless crisis in l. a. county. And you mentioned garcetti. The board of supervisors the city council and of course this los angeles homeless services agency. All of them combined have made this problem worse. And i think that's what you were trying to tell all members of the media today. My right You gotta right on if an alien ahead. So apparently you're calling on the la county board of supervisors to declare an emergency They need to right now. Where our economy is imploding. Our tourism industry evaporating. That's gonna leave tens of thousands of jobs out of businesses and which is gonna further Exacerbate the homeless situation. So we're we're doubling down on stupid as we speak so we need to change our course of action. I know. I mean you were presenting charts. You were showing how the homeless a your estimate now is that there's eighty thousand homeless people in l. a. county. It's ballooned over the years. And yet i think later on correct me if i'm wrong i think you said the spending is about six and a half billion dollars over the last ten years on this problem you gotta right. That's exclusively devoted earmarked for homeless six point. Five billion dollars in ten years only to see the problem double in those ten years. That's just blows my mind. So what are they doing wrong. You have stepped up. You were the biggest public figure we know of here on. Kfi in the join can show who is taken really an opposite stance on this problem. And it's one that's common sense. We all agree that it's not working whatever they've been doing. What do they've been doing wrong. And i think you mentioned that this housing first thing is the wrong way to go yes. They're big mistake. A cardinal sin. They refused regulate public space. When you don't do that you're surrendering to anybody. Who wants to show up and do whatever the hell they want. That's exactly what you're seeing on the streets of every neighborhood in la city and some parts of la county. And of course we know by now that your deputies are conducting an operation in venice. Aunt you tell us how that's going. Because i think in the interim mike von went public with his plan to do the same thing that you're outreach are trying to do. Any also claimed in a couple of quotes. I saw that. Your sheriff's deputies are just getting in the way and don't know what they're doing well it'd be nice to see if we got in the way of something but we just didn't see anything you know. They're his plan is basically no plan but the same thing that's failed before 'cause he doesn't wanna address public space he says we don't want law enforcement to be involved great. That means the homeless as they. I don't wanna go anywhere. Screw you bonnin. I'm gonna stay right here. He's okay with that and he wants to move on and let the let the community. This absorb the loss and suffer the consequences having a homeless and cameras that can continue to grow so we gotta put an end to that and it starts with regulating public space. You talked about Five deaths a day of homeless people. Yep five a day the corner patty wind comes along and scrapes them off the streets and that number is going to continue to grow because you have people using dope twenty. Four seven was no consequences whatsoever. Their health spirals downward and there's nothing to erupted in the old days prior to prop forty seven. They get interrupted when they go to jail. They clean out. We get them back on their meds or whatever. It was three squares a day. Get their body way back up and get him into a halfway house retreatment. That doesn't exist anymore. Because none of them go to jail so they just spiraled down to the diet yeah he you mentioned prop forty seven and the architect. Data's the la county district attorney. George gascon when he was up in san francisco this past in two thousand fourteen. It is really complicated the problem because as you said you can't compel them into treatment. They don't care anymore. I think you mentioned how the treatment centers don't want business these days. Now they don't. And i remember when i was a young man working in the county jail. You cannot find that these were all at max capacity always because everybody was trying to get bed to get out of the county jail no more so you can thank. George got for that one and you talked about tourism. I saw the segment where you had gone to olvera street to talk to the merchants there. The restaurant owners about the devastating problem with the homeless on their business. Oh yeah one. Third of all the kiosk street are closed for good. The the the school children on their field trips day-trips they used to stop by there. No more everything has been abandoned in favor of the homeless encampments. They keep growing around. Overstreet is just utter nonsense then. They take a parking lot devoted to tourists there. Were supposed to vote about a street and now it's another homeless Treatment center so i guess Screw the tourists are going to go straight and screw the owners of the shop owner street. They don't count. You also explained your authority in the situation by laying out the entire map of the county and reporting to some of the codes and so forth about how the la county sheriff's department can have some jurisdiction here particularly when we're talking about venice which is in the city of los angeles and mike bonds council district. How is what your deputies are doing there. How does that differ from what we've seen fail for somebody. Years spent as where one we actually follow through. We get people the except the services we get them to move on we clean up after they move on behind them so we return the former encampment to its original state and then we regulate the public face so someone pops up again to try to reestablish it. We're gonna tear that down as well and we're trying to get people into treatment and the out of town crowd the out of state crowd We're also we have a service provider. God bless him who's actually facilitating reunification of loved ones out of state. So we got four people from venice. That are now in row back home. Yeah that's a big part of this hour. Is it going so far in venice. I mean how many people do you think you've gotten off the off the boardwalk there are lieutenant. Dietrich said they got sixteen off the boardwalk and they've talked about one hundred and fifty that they've they've done the assessment they're not done with assessment process. He'll have a full detail report on thurs tomorrow but he said about forty percent he could counter. Looks like they're out of state. Just don't nomadic drifters and now they call them urban campers and that has to end and you set this news conference that you have to also use law enforcement i mean. Is there going to be a point where people have to be told after. They've been talked to one hundred times about services. You gotta go. This is public space. Isn't that where you have to step in. That's option number four and the people might start making shirts that say option for but option. What is obviously going through. The the homeless alridge process getting people place into operation room key or other Nonprofits that have Room and we have One non stepped up and offer beds already and is helping the host team do assessments bless them so there are people that do wanna help. And then the second phase of that is. We're gonna identify safe campgrounds. Safe parking areas for rv's if that doesn't work option three is move option for is a is one through three failed option for. We're just going to enforce the rule of law. What's your reaction to baden's announcement yesterday. It's kind of interesting. It comes on the heels of your saying that your deputies going into venice and of course an effort that has now begun to recall him from office. Well it's too little too late and If he's got something is actually legitimate will. Actually we want encourage it. Wanna make sure people that. Are there homeless. Right now can get the services can get that Shelter space by all means. We wanna make sure that happens. We're not gonna get an away progress. We just don't see any. Yeah one thing you pointed out at a big part of the presentation is what you and we've referred to as the homeless industrial complex these five. Oh one c. Organizations that have taken a good chunk of this six and a half billion dollars over the last ten years. And you didn't pull any punches. You name these organizations. You showed executive compensation for these organizations. I mean what are they doing with the money. One thing they're doing their primary purposes Pay themselves that's what's happening with the money The majority of all of their money goes toward salary and benefits of their own employees. It doesn't go to. The homeless doesn't go direct aid to the people that need the resources the most. So we're we're creating an entire industry here. are industrial. Complex is homeless industrial complex. That is not helping the homeless in fact the more homeless the more money that goes into their coffers by wave of thanks for talking to me and i'm glad you're standing up publicly on the side of the people to solve this problem over public space. Well yeah we gotta keep pushing because we wanna make the place safer everyone right. That's sheriff alex villanueva. La county held a news. Conference today went on for about ninety minutes. I watched a twenty minute presentation. that delta specifically with Many of the issues surrounding the problems with the homeless in l. a. county. We got more coming up on. The john and ken show john and ken show. Kfi am six forty live everywhere on the iheartradio again. The voice line. Yeah in there. One eight seven seven moist eighty six. We present these calls on friday during the five o'clock hour. One eight seven seven six six four seven eight eight six anything. You want to comment down that we're talking about not talking about irritates. You makes you happy. That doesn't happen. people calling it. Something made the map. I listen to the happy news. That happened much. You run on. The joe can show with barn listeners. Who i just got done talking to the la county sheriff. Alex visa-waiver as really taking it. On all of these politicians the only city council the mayor the board of supervisors. He has decided to step forward and try to do something about the homeless discouraged which is affected so much of the county and particularly the city and of course the ocean front in venice so he really deserves to get some recognition for at least trying this. I don't know whether or not he's going to be successful in case you didn't hear the news. Mike bonds plan to get five million dollars from the city council to begin to remove two hundred people from the venice ocean. Front got the late and i looked at that story this morning and i thought they've already spent billions six and a half billion. Why does he need to ask for another five million to work on the biggest problem outside of downtown la and skid row. Does he have to ask for more money. It should be there already absurd. But they've delayed till july first so i don't think there's going to be any operation beginning monday. June twenty eighth as bond and boasted about Yesterday this story's talked about you know. I saw this when i was looking at the new york times on sunday. And it's a curiosity there's a class action lawsuit in the state of california as to whether or not subway sandwiches. The tuna sandwiches actually tuna so a writer for the new york times in a story that went on. I'm not kidding you. Eight printed pages decided to do something about finding out whether or not the subway tuna sandwich has any tuna in it and eight pages. She did a long dissertation on the history of tuna. The different types of tuna She talked to many people who used to be sandwich. Makers and subway they provide pictures. I mean it's kind of a popular item. People that really loved the subway tuna sandwich. She cut to the chase unpaid seven. She went around and collected more than sixty inches worth of subway. Tuna sandwiches removed in froze. The tuna meat then shifted across the country to food testing labs. She spent weeks chatting with two experts. This is what is this journalists. these take. Well here's what happened. After more than a month. Awaiting the lab results arrived. No amplify tuna. Da was present in the sample so we obtained no amplification products from dna. Therefore we can identify the species of what's in there. The spokesman for the lab said there is to conclusions. You might get one. It's so heavily processed that whatever we could pull out we couldn't make an identification or we got some. There's nothing there that's tuna now to be fair. The writer said inside edition did this to they sent samples from three subway locations in queens out for testing. And they did find tuna. So you know it's still a toss up. We'll see what happens with the class action lawsuit. I remember you used to talk about food conway on the show and didn't somebody on your show. Love the subway to sandwich. I sort of remember that. Yes somebody i loved it. And then they. They said they got allergic to The tuna don't some guy said he was allergic to tuna and the guy at subway said well then it didn't come from our sandwich always right because so much processed food these days anyway. You can't tell what's in that right but you know what this is. What i also heard that once you slice meat you know you have a big chunk of ham and you slice it. It starts to deteriorate immediately and turned into like plastic once you slice ono. So if you go to. Mike's the jersey mike's there yeah that's a good tip. Yeah thanks with that. The other people i mean i don't know You know how often the other sub places cut their meat but it could be cut in nebraska right and it could be plastic by the time it gets in your mouth yeah but that that phillies best is great too. I don't know if you ever go there to that. Place is the cheese steaks. Yes john likes. Oh man. That's well i will say this. I think that's the way he barked up one day. But it's not because it was bad. He aided too fast and got caught. Oh yeah right. And so the apparently a big chunks of cheese steak on the floor of my office. I wasn't there that day shannon told me that story. I love that story. You must've been a fun date earlier on in life. Oh man too fast now. He's throwing up too fast calcium. That's going to handle. I do like if if we during a commercial break seven minutes entire meal. I'm sick as hell you can't. It's exactly right we can't do. It has slowed down. That's right matt. Money smith is gonna listen six thirty five. That's kind of cool. And then britney spears man a lot of people have time to go down and and talk about britney spears here some of the women but who is what kind of time you got on your hands where you could involve bryce years later fray and be so concerned about how much money is in an account for her. Didn't handle herself. Might it's of sad. It's really wild. I don't care about my my my wife's checking account. Why would i care about britney spears you know i just don't get it grocer. Did he just whispers. But if you tried all the chicken sandwiches that are out there and everyone's gonna chicken sandwich. Last night indies. They're all trying to compete with popeye. They all look great pilots chilies. Chicken san jose. It was actually not bad at chili's what's really good. It's wendy's chili is excellent to the chile from wednesday with one. When he's good. I went last night. I made this mistake. And i and i do it all the time but last night. We were talking about mcdonald's about twenty minutes before we ended the show. So i go to the local mcdonalds and get a chicken sandwich. And there's nine hundred people in line right. If i just shut up then i could slide in there. You caused a mad dash. I'm causing people dislike. I got a friend of mine. I police officer and he said i was driving around. Heard you talk about it in and out. And i had to go you gotta slide. It triggers it it. 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Thriving in Dentistry Series Featuring Dr. Jon Marashi

The Thriving Dentist Show

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Thriving in Dentistry Series Featuring Dr. Jon Marashi

"Yes is the thriving. Dentist show with gary tax where we help you develop your ideal dental practice. One that provides personal professional and financial satisfaction. Welcome to another episode of the thriving. Dennis show it's garry tackett your podcast co host it. We're getting some kind of exciting for you today. You know we're always innovating the podcast and coming up with new ways to bring information in value to our list. And we decided that we would create a thriving in dentistry series where we feature a dentist and talk about their story and we talk about how they became a thriving dentist. In essentially a heifer guest held her story and this episode is the very first in that series. It's the thriving industry series with. Dr jon morosi now in the future. We'll be adding these. We haven't quite figured out the exact schedule yet. But you will hear a future thriving in dentistry series in future episodes of but for now. I know you're really gonna enjoy this. Welcome to another episode of the thriving. Dennis show i'm gary textra. Plant cast co host Very excited to bring a different type of thriving. Dennis show episode for you. I have my long time friend. Dr john rushie with me today. And we're going to have an awesome conversation that i think you're gonna enjoy every moment of. Hey john houria a good two sear. Gary say can see me because we're sitting here on zoom with video line but You know john. It's great to see again. We've had some great history together over the years and Mad it is so cool to have you on the show. I always like to think that You kinda knew me when. I was in dental diapers at. Actually if you think about your timeline of your career We met when you were pretty early on in our fat. Yeah well john. You've done some amazing things in your career you know. I like to think that our podcast is about Educating and inspiring. And i'd like to think there's a whole ton of inspiration in this interview for our listeners. Would you mind sharing a little bit of your back story in terms of your profession Dentistry we're gonna talk about your business experience as well But let's start by talking about your trajectory and dentistry when we met you had a great practice in san clemente california. Yeah i'm very familiar with san clemente. Because it's a surf town and i i've spent As as a teen and young adult I spent many hours in san clemente surfing. But some of our listeners might know where san clemente especially given we've got listeners. One hundred eighty eight countries is a southern california town At the southern tip of orange county Right before if you keep going south you're going to run into the marine base camp pendleton But is free at the southern tip of orange county. Can you pick up the store or a starting with your experience practicing central. Yeah well with persian. I'm gonna go back. One step farther because For the younger listeners. I think really appreciate that. So when i was in dental school i was really drawn to teeth and smiles. And so i knew my trajectory was gonna take me through cosmetic dentistry and as a student And i was at nyu. At that time. I had been lucky to just read an article that was done by dr larry rosenthal and And at that juncture in time you know. He was one of the probably most prolific cosmetic dentists and Through one of my instructors. I was able to get an introduction to him as a student from that point on i kind of followed the guy stock the guy to a degree to learn from him and A year out of school. When i finished my residency. I convince the guy to hire me as an associate. And so you know there for our listeners. Benefit we've we do have a full range of of listeners. Quite quite literally. John from dental school all the way to senior practitioners as evident by the email. I got last week from one of our listeners that shared with me that he just celebrated his eighth birthday. That was the opposite extreme. But just in case. You're new word you don't recognize that name. I think it's very fair to say that. Dr larry roosevelt is quite literally a legend in dentistry And as does some amazing. Is that a fair label to put on a letter. Absolutely i think for our profession. You know he really did a wonderful job. You know bringing the joy of cosmetic dentistry teaching dentists how to do it and he walked the walk. He was doing it in his private practice every day. And you know at that time. You know you know late nineties. You know he was. He was the leading edge of the curve. You know kinda the real. The you know the pioneer at that point and so what from news obey Yeah vacuum further The american cosmetic dentistry has a group of founders. Larry was part of that circle. Yeah so for me to be you know so young in my career to start working in an office like that and you know what what happened is it. Is it recalibrated. You know my mind in my brain us to what the norm watts. And unlike okay. I go to work and i do cosmetic dentistry every day and and And so i'm eternally grateful for that opportunity. You know that. I was afforded. And i like to think that i repeat them in kind through you know lots of blood sweat and tears and you know i was there for I don't like a year and a half to two years. Something like that and you know it living in new york city which is tough living. I decided one day. I said you know out like i've learned. I felt like. I learn what i needed to learn. And i had seen what i needed to see but my life was calling in different directions and i had always been california dreaming. That was ever since. I was a kid I grew up in spokane washington. So you know. It's about our for beach. each cultures. Get but i've been skateboarding. Since i was twelve and so that was always. My dream was to be on the beach and you know. I've been actively skateboarding even to this day. So in early. Two thousand four My now wife who i met in new york city and she's from huntington beach. We just decided like okay. That's it we're done. It's time and so in thirty days you know. We packed up and moved Down to orange county and started a whole new life and so i was able to purchase a practice from great guy phil potter. Just real solid dentists and you know. He practiced in same spot for thirty one years. And it was time for him to hang it up and And you know it was my turn to basically just replicate what i had seen in new york. And i didn't see any difference from between being there and being erin Almost doubled the practice in my first year. And it was all through doing elective cosmetic care and and you may not know this. John philpot and i have been been friends for many years. He he and i enjoy getting together. up in the sierra law and his dagger up there yeah we're fly-fishing. He's very avid fly. Fisherman and fillon. I will get together up in the bear in the lake. Tahoe area Sola lakes and streams and outside of tahoe do supply. Did you know that. I had bought his practice. You know. I did not know that i did. I know i. I knew your practices saturday. I didn't know that it was fills. Yeah so i mean you know you wanna talk about like winning the lottery of like solid just quality crown and bridge practices with a guy who had integrity. I mean that was that was still and motion. I would second those comments absolutely mean. He's probably you know like if you had to say who's your top five of just like solid practitioners. You'll ever met your career. I made you know fills up on that pedestal for sure. Very cool so that was old four zero five. That was early. Two thousand four. Yeah and so you know. I spent the next five and a half years down there and built this practice up and it was humming and i was teaching and lecturing and and you know success by all by all the boxes. You had check right. But i wasn't fulfil and i felt like god there's gotta be there's gotta be something more. What am i missing. And because i've always been the kind of guy where you know. I i set these really lofty goals ride. And then you get there. You're like okay what's next. Just how how. I do things and you know. It's you know the saying you know. When when the students ready the master will appear. Yeah so I was unelected break at work. And i got a phone call from From my dental attorney this guy who helped me do my purchase element and my lease dot adopts. And he goes hope. You're sitting down wires and it's just kind of random. I walked into my office. At the moment he goes listen. He goes practice up in. La with this this Old timer dentist and you know. There's you know he's got some entertainment clients said And the guys get ready to retire. And i think this thing is like basically fills fills potter's practice but up in la. And if you were to go in there and do your saying like you could really turn this into something. Special and i was like lee. You're crazy you know like i'm busy like yeah you can ask you. If that was lee maddix yes leave addicts little. There's a lot of our lives that have Commonality lee connectix has been an amazing friend of mine for many many years fact. Our one of our daughters Spanish summer intern working for him in his office in newport beach. Oh wow i bet. He lived in seal beach and and and she was one of lee's Legal interns that summer and lee lee has a wonderful sense of humor and those that know him no. He's absolutely hysterical but he can be serious. Got so Alexis daughter Her first day of the internship. She's in lee's office. It's right there on You know it's right on the seventeenth. I think yes seventeenth street right. You know overlooking the water is just a great spot and lee said a alexis I know your dad and You know gary know each other pretty well. And and i'm really excited about having you here with our firm but i've got one rule that is non-negotiable and i just want you to know that in advance so the expectations are clear. There's one rule that is not an unsure. Lexi was thing of okay. Okay well what is what is it and lee said lexi. My one rule is while you're here this summer. You surf every day every day. And that's where the you know. The room lightened up at that point. It yeah your dad told me that That one of the reasons you wanted to turn out this summer was to get some experience surfing. And so i am requiring you to surf everyday. I need eight hours of work for every day. But you work whatever hours you want. Just make sure you get your surfing. And i think you know lead well enough to know you can imagine him saying something like that totally. Yeah he's he's nothing but good vibes now so yeah so here. I am on the phone with them. And he's like listen. Just i want you to go and look at this practice. And i think and i think it's going to be the right one for you. And he started telling me a little bit more than all of a sudden you wheel star turned into my head like taj. You know what maybe this zip. Maybe this is what i was looking for like my next challenge and so You know i went in. I went looked at the practice. And you know. I i knew before i walked out of the door. You know like oh my gosh. This thing is like like the potential that this thing has of what i could do with it. You know with just you know working hard building my reputation and doing quality dentistry. I think this could really work and all my friends thought i was nuts. Might practicing dentists friends like you're crazy. You're gonna leave this stable situation and you know you're you know you don't have any dead and your with your dental practice in. You know where your your meals are coming from. Why would you take this chance. I was lose secure. Yeah exactly and i was like you know i heard I've had a of wonderful mentors in this life. And there's this one guy that i've learned a lot from business and he said guiding keith cunningham is what hell on earth would be because it would be one day meeting the person that you could have been. Oh man what a What it impactful statement. Yeah and you know. I i kind of live by those words. You know just about optimizing your potential. So you know. I knew that you know. Like i think the business of dentistry Barring a few landmines here and there you know like it's you know it's a pretty safe business to be. And i said you know i'm going to do this. I think this is what. I is where i was supposed to be. You know kind of getting back to doing a little more of the you know the high end dentistry in in you know in a in a bigger metropolitan market Especially one that has You know The opportunity to to pull from the entertainment community and to me. That just seemed like it would be the ultimate way to go so i actually reached out to potter. Because you know. He had transitions point from practicing dentists to a dental practice broker and i called fill at i was like sill. I need some advice and i. I was so afraid to call. Because i didn't want him to say like what you're gonna you're gonna leave this thing already and don't mind baby y-yeah and you know what he said. Gary he goes. You gotta move and you got to move now. And he was so supportive. I mean he just knew he was like look johnny ghosts. You got your training wheels. Taken off now. You know how to do this. You know how to play the game but it's time for you to step up to the big leagues and i want to help you find your buyer. And so you know. Phil actually helped me find my buyer and this guy named eric johnson. I love you eric. In case you're listening and you're erica's thriving down there. he couldn't. He was a better fit for that practice than me. And i'm so happy to have handed off to You know where we're built up to the level that was and we're still friends to this day and And that took me up to los angeles. How cool for. Fill to have been supportive in in that in that time of your life you know. I think when you fill was a guy who spent his his whole life trying to do the right thing and you know so when you talk about birds slather and and i think most dentists in general are trying to do the right thing for their patients right. And so you know if you're trying to do that for your patients in that's how you approach your life. You're gonna find yourself surrounded by good people in general and so You know to have been surrounded. By phil and coming into contact with eric while it seems like it just sort of you know magically fell into place i don't i don't really think of it like that. I think it was just you know you know the universe in the laws of attraction all working right right good for you man and that was a big leap at that point Because i know the communities I'm gonna use some terminology of might help our listeners. Understand that In my words not yours john. So correct these if you feeling differently but you're a big fish in a small pond san clemente. Yes that accurate way to describe that. And if anyone knew. San clemente is is a laid back. Beach town wonderful places. And i can see why eric would you. Would anyone tries there. You know but you had bigger aspirations and you took the leap of going from something. That was very safe. tried true Frankly providing happiness and fulfillment at some level. But you knew it wasn't yet and and you now in los angeles westside los angeles which you know. Frankly you're gonna have an opportunity to be a big fish in a big punt. Is that an accurate description. Yeah absolutely you know but you know when you go up there you know. You're not the big fish and so it was like all right. Well what am i gonna do. We know how am. I going to run this thing. And how am i gonna get this practice to you know to the level that it needs to be and and walking in the door you know. I already knew what i needed to do. I said you know. I've i've done this at different levels and i just need to focus on doing quality dentistry taking care of my patients building relationships. And you know it's not like it's not a magic formula and it's not a sexy formula you know like there's not like oh you know pay for this social media campaign in. It'll do that stuff you know. None of that stuff may be at like an adjunct to To what you're already doing. But if if your practices a brain hemorrhage all you're doing is growing brain efforts right. So but if you're a practices a well-oiled machine in it's an it's predicated around quality and service you're going to grow something at that level and so that's what happened with me up here. I want to comment on something. That is part of your in my dna for for our listeners. Benefit john and i taught together In a post graduate program many years ago teaching dennis to do cosmetic dentistry and john part of your dna is the importance of a relationship driven practice absolutely and you just made a comment about Focus on fundamentals. Develop relationship with your patients Can you comment a little bit more on that and for our listeners run their own journeys hopefully. You'll inspire them to elevate that to an even higher level the the relationship driven you. Can you call it a little bit about that. Absolutely what the relationship driven practice means is that your patients are no longer transactional. It's not just a filling or a crown that you're treating. You're looking emma's person so you know a ton about apple things that i do. That are probably different than most. My new patient consults. They take about an hour and most people who listen to like. How do you do that. You know and it's and you know it's a loss leader because you can only charge so much in terms of consulatation. There's your charge. You do that for the first thirty minutes of that of that conversation we have. I don't care what they try to tell me about their t. is changed the conversation completed. I don't wanna talk about teeth. In any capacity. I want to know where their uncle went to elementary school. And that's the direction that the conversation goes. I wanna know you know. Where do they live where they grow up. What's their life like you know who's in their circle. You know what. How do you spend your time. And you know things you're interested in. It's really easy to steer the conversation. You know just by asked usa three words. Tell me more. that's it and get them talking. So i put you on the spot for just a second about this ahead of time. there's a classic book Many many years ago dale carnegie hotter win. Yeah bread that okay. If you get this wrong we'll delete it from from the podcast. I think you're gonna get it right. John you ready. i'm ready. let's do this. What is everyone's favorite topic be themselves. Correct yep exactly and that's what you do it. I mean you know always for my for. We have dental students and listen to this. What one of the things that means is. It's more important to be interested than it is to be interesting. I percents when you're interested. It's about you when you're trying to be interesting. It's about me so just a little. Just file that away and see if you could pull that up the gray matter when needed. Yeah you know To the to the young dentists out there listening. You know what i can tell you from experience and i'm twenty years out now which is actually crazy to even think that is that you know when the patient snow that you genuinely care about them and who they are the barriers an apprehension around is this dentist gonna do the right thing for me. Are they going to suggest something. Maybe i don't need or you know because they don't have a relationship with you all those barriers or got evaporate god and you know this so well that This doesn't happen in the healthcare world today. Not just denser doesn't happen in healthcare because of the the the dysfunctional model that exists with managed care. It doesn't app and when it does happen is so different that the patient just a whites to it. And it's like i found my dentist and that was your. He exhibits that. I found by dental office. I'm never going anywhere else. And i know when your practice you have patients that have moved cross country and he's still come back to see you. Yeah i mean you know. Pre cove it. I mean a good chunk of my people were coming from out of the country. And you know that's so i mean out of state out of country as smooch part of my practice and just you know people are willing to stay committed and you know and want to be part of you and your team. You know when you've demonstrated that that they are of the utmost importance to you in their care. Yeah yeah it's your secret sauce man and And no one can do it like you say you. I'm talking about your listeners. You know when you figure out how to genuinely show interest To your patients. No one can do it like you and it's just missing too often in our profession. I wanna bring that back in. If you're if you're listening to want to take away this is one of the takeaways. You can take away from this interview for sure. It's fair to say john. It served you well. It served me. Well it it you know like but not just professionally but also personally and because my closest friends on the planet are all patients of mine that i met at work and you know you you hear all this like the tell you in dental school. Like don't cross the you know the the the professional line with your patients and so forth and and it's just the worst advice on the planet you know like the thing about it. You have someone who's coming in the door that doesn't know you and they're going to trust. You know their health with you for crying out laps and dentistry is so reagan intimate to begin with right. Now it's as little as it gets. Yeah and end And they're they're they're literally open themselves up to you right and so you know. Now i spend time with these people. And i'm building a relationship with him and i'm like these people are also like like why on earth would i not want this person as my friend and i was telling you know i. I play the guitar. I'm not particularly good. But i was at my guitar teacher one night. I was telling him about this story from work when i was I was playing chair size. I got a couple cars in the office. And and i have all kinds of rockstar patients that come in and we've been very lucky to have some some impromptu music being played in saying to us and And it's like what happened after that. I said well. I went over and i had dinner with him and his wife and he's like he's like. This is so bizarre. I've never heard about like like anyone wanting to go. Hang out with their dentist and you know you say it. Like that like yeah. It does kind of sound weird doesn't it but the way i see it as like god these. These people have entrusted everything in me. Like why couldn't i reciprocate in some capacity and be a friend back to up and And it's really it's just been so meaningful that like you know like like i don't know i've heard of dentists like not wanting to run into a patient at the supermarket. They're gonna be pissed about a filling. That was done. Or whatever. And i'm like tapping mama show i. Hey you guys doing you know. And it's just as beautiful thing and And you know. I think it's i think that's i think it's the most under utilized aspect of practice of practice management. And i i well said and you know we call this. Podcast thriving dennis show and I'm often asked. What can you define what it means to be. A bit Avid driving practice in my answer. John is having a practice. Provides personal professional and financial satisfaction and on the personal side. It means you're taking care people. You really enjoy So man you just characterizes really well. Hey i wanna pivot in our interview in our discussion. And in addition to be an extremely accomplished dentist And continuing to practice by the way correct. Yes yes no mac saying. And i've never wanted to know that practicing dentistry but You've also done some very cool things in the business world can can. We talk about that chapter So you know clinical dentistry private practice dentistry cosmetic dentistry the whole thing. It's been really good to me. You know for all the reasons we just mentioned. And up in my practice in la. You know it's taken me a good decade. But i've become you know the the dentist to the stars out here and you know you have to. You gotta take a moment along the way through your travels to sort of look back from where you've come from where you are where your going and it. It would have been all too easy to get caught up in the celebrity money and this and that right like oh you know like i tear it. You know like like. I'm dr fancy pants. Now you know data dot and in that never sat. Well let me tell you why. Because i always thought about this. I'm like you know. I've been so blessed to take care of these amazingly successful and famous and wealthy people and it's an it's an it's afforded me this great life but what about everybody else and i don't think a lot of people stop and think about that because here. Here's what the white elephants in the room. It's this is no ever wants to talk about. Is that dentistry. No matter how you slice it dice. It and i don't even care where you practiced is expensive. It is let you. You don't like. I don't care you know how you want to sugarcoat it and say we have affordable payment options blah blah blah. It's generally expensive and in today's workplace in economy access to care has become more difficult. And i'm not saying gary because there's not a dentist within a few mile radius of where people live you know. Maybe unless you're in a rural town. There's one hundred dentists on my street. That's not the issue but think about you know you think about how people work now where they're working longer hours. And some people have side hustles and people are working remote. How the hell do you do. Most people go to like a twelve o'clock noon dental appointment and they got commuting time whilst therapy plus their appointment time going back and now they've lost like a quarter to a third of their day and And so you can imagine how that affects work productivity or even having lost. I isn't just your fees it's Lost wages yeah lost wages. You know i. It can be measured different ways that that could be as a stay at home. Mom who is losing precious time with her family otaly. Yeah it's in measurable and so so what that made me think about is like okay if i gave away all my dental work for free. Well there's only one right. So i mean like a hours in the day to take care of everyone so i've been thinking about for literally for years like with deputy great if there was an opportunity where i could help deliver a quality dental product or service at scale. That would help solve these problems of cost and accessibility. And so you know that's something that's been on my mind forever and you know what ended up happening is. I ended up having a lunch meeting at the request of two of my good friends who listen up listeners. Who are also my patients. There's there's a trend here and they said. Hey john you know we actually had this business idea and we just wanted to sound with you because it's in the dental space and i was like. Yeah sure cool guys you know like the you know happy you know. Whatever and the idea that they had in a nutshell was getting involved in the direct to consumer market for clear. A liners invis- ally. And so as i understand these were business. Guys that You know at a business concept and they wanted to talk to someone in the profession that Tested yeah exactly correct. Yup that's it and so you know we had. We had a great lunch. They told me their ideas. And i i listened to it. And i said you guys i said you know. Here's my thoughts and a lot of it. I liked and i said you know. There's certain areas here that ax. You may want to consider doing this. And and you know it's kinda like you know this and how about that a little bit of this but overall it's really good so you know my my conclusions for them was yes do this and number two You know. I want. I want in on it. And they were like seriously as like. Yeah guys they said. Look i said i think i could actually bring a lot to the table. Two guys and So long story short. I ended up becoming An owner in the company and also serving as the chief dental officer and The company's called bite b. y. T. e. And from that meeting. Fast forward Three years which actually was Right around christmas time this last year. new year's twenty twenty one. Or sorry twenty. Twenty and our company was acquired by densely serena or one billion dollars cash. Just in case anyone thought maybe there was. Maybe some interference That was with a b. one plus billion dollars cash. Yes was it was it was. It was absolutely incredible. That idea that you're to patients brought to you. that's lakes. Oh it had legs. And i mean it just you know it. It's you know. I'm you know blake and scott partners. I love these guys like brothers and you know there's no ever could have done this on my own by myself. So i always like to give credit do and You know for having the you know the the business background on doing something of this nature but what did exposed in the dental market place was that there was a very strong demand for this product and service. And you know it was. It was a complete team effort. We had an incredible team built around us and we grew much faster than we could have anticipated. And you and there's no question that even during During the height of the pandemics you know direct to consumer sales grew through the roof because people are at home and start up themselves on zoom the mirror. And they're like us. You know what. I wanna fix my teeth and that translated not only into bite but even in my private practice because when we finally got to go back to work you know the the demand for veneers has since been insatiable but But anyway back to bite You know it's the fulfillment that i've received from it of knowing that note that there's been literally hundreds of thousands of clients now that i've indirectly touched to directly or indirectly. However you wanted to find it you know to help them get a quality service and product that they never would have had a chance to getting otherwise has just been as has been so fulfilling for me danjus to fund low comment that i think you'll appreciate of course you're you're awesome mad using social media To connect with people. And i'm going to share your instagram when we wrap up. I'll share your instagram handle with our listeners. Can reach out to you. I'm interim but among millennials on instagram. That's a large group on instagram. Do you know that. Sixty seven percent of millennials on instagram photo shopped. There smile. i'm talking about running it through a filter you know but i'm talking about actually gone to photoshop. What does that say that says that they want. They want to improve smile. That's two thirds of the of the millennial population want to improve their spot. I think that is i hope. That's an inspiring benefitauto number staggering. Because this is this is this is now in the years. Communist the dominant workforce. You know after you know. My gen-x crowd gets a little bit older. So well and my baby boomer crowd disappearing. But you'll millennials is the largest generational group by numbers that happened. That happened at the end of two thousand twenty. It's the largest group by numbers. But here's here's something that i wanted to get to this john And i think it's fair to say that a pond the sale of of bite You know to Death splice rona you had achieve financial independence and yet You chose to continue to practice. Dentistry I think that in itself says an awful lot. Did i tell the truth. Was i accident there. Yeah i mean you know. It's fine like what it told me. Is that i picked wisely. You know that you know loving doing this loving you know having a passion for it and then i can continue to go in and do it every day. I mean that's really been the biggest is just going in and like hey you know like i'm still here because i want to be here and i'm having fun with it and i have. I have no plans on slowing down. You know i'm always just working on all right what's next. Now how do i. How do i make this thing better. You've achieved the goal that i I plan for every one of our clients. And that is and i want you to get to the point where you can go to work because you want to not because you John you've done that and i man. I am just so proud of what you've accomplished in how you've contributed You've really made the world a better place man and it's not over. There's more to come as we as we come to the finish line here this interview. John i wanna share a thought and i'd like you to comment. Maybe provide some wrap up comments for said okay sir. So it's been my observation. I started nineteen eighty in this amazing prevention. Don't remind me about hold. You were in one thousand nine hundred john. I don't need. I'm kidding. But i started nineteen eighty this amazing professors forty one years ago and had chance actually coach over twenty two hundred practices over that time period and what observations that i have. Is that the mistake. That many dennis make is not that they sent their goals too high and they fail to achieve that mistake that i noticed is they set the goals too low and the Totally yeah you can. You can draw about that. So when i my first year you know Like truly on my own. When i was in sachse clemente and i was sitting with my account. And you know he wants to do some projects. What do you think you're gonna do this year. And i had put my my number fifty percent above what sale had done the previous year. And he's like wow while you know. Why don't we look at some alternate projections. And i was like no 'cause you know he's like well. Look statistically you take over a practice you stand going down you know you know upwards of twenty to thirty percent. The first year due to attrition. And i said well that's for other people that's not for me and and i ended up doing about seventy five percent over what a dud for your mousy in your fifty percent group. Yeah i was and you know and my attitude on it was simply this is like i want the reason why i was shooting for the moon was because i figured if if i fell short and ended up in the clouds i was it was better than ending up at the bottom of the ocean. You know if. I said it just to the top of the telephone pole. I'm probably not getting off the street level. And so you know. Like i. I you know so to me by you. Know shooting high and then putting together a plan to executing get me there there would only be upside on and they'd never be a reason for disappointment because i would have done better than what the place was doing before so i continued to do that and And i think you know if you're if you wanna get massive growth in change you better start looking up at the moon not not not at the tree tops you know. Our listeners will recognize that As we finish every podcast. I play a song. There's there's a song that i play to kind of a music out. Tro john thank music. You'll appreciate it. That music tro was created By dan that. I love out of utah. Probably the best one of the best band names in the world ryan shoop and the rubber band ryan shoop in the rubber band and he wrote a brilliant song titled dream big dream. Big ryan's a friend of mine. When i started this podcast in in ten years ago. I reached out to him and i said Iran here's i'm telling you what i'm doing podcasts. I i wanna have a music out tro Could i have your permission to use your dream song it in my altruism said man you bet you bet that you can use the off all this represents a really cool way to wrap up this This interview john. I want to thank you for many things when thank you for your friendship For your vision your courage and and and your heart in in the way that you're committed helping others add. We've been friends for many years. And i've seen that throughout every one of our interactions together. Hey if any of you would like to stay in touch with john Instagram's probably the best place to do that. I'll put this in the show notes. Go to thriving dennis dot com. And you'll see a link in the show us but let me give it to you. Instagram john's instagram. Hamill is at dr john j. o. N. marashi n. a. r. a. s. h. I gotta get that right jet sir all right so hey look for our listeners. All over the road we have listeners. One hundred eighty eight countries. You buy get some instagram followers from different countries. These days i appreciate that. I mean what a treat to We'll catch up with you because it's been way too long at Participate in this. Because it's it's you know being able to help other people with the things that you've learned how to do so they can be more. Successful is just you know its fulfillment at its best. So hats off to you. Gary for being a trailblazer in this and i think our listeners can understand now. Why wanted to have john on the show Really inspiration. We need more inspiration and john. You're walking breathing inspiration for all of our listeners and This was a lot of fun On that note on simply. Thank all of you as lewis's reloaded we do it. The primary show but we couldn't do it without u Thanks for the privilege of your time today. Look for to connected with you on the next driving dennis. Show when you competitive when you smell. 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Girls Trips, Moms Nights Out, Female Friendships

Mouse and Weens

55:28 min | 2 years ago

Girls Trips, Moms Nights Out, Female Friendships

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We go doing her thing and now this weekend would you do it was was your big whip oh rookie yes one of ours put in and what's going on some good storylines no now I wanna know something it's just really hot overheated so tell me we're no okay you're being so weird she threw out there that maybe we could all do this wine tasting chip because there's this new region of Baja California that's getting well-known for wine tasting and you you can tell you I'll tell you why you need as well I'm fine we had a nice weekend some friends and I we did a lot of sitting around chatting in the lovely atwater village area can take tours and her friend runs tour so you can it's like your tour bus years sting tour bus where we crossed the border we have to get off the bus watch it anyway how's it going what have you been up to issue I know I miss you too I feel like I wanna find out more about your world I have been working on the hit show that into Mexico so if you look at Mexico there's little finger thing in that's Baja California so there is a tour it was my friend's birthday and go across the Mexican border get back on the bus and continuing and we went to three wineries and then out to dinner and then came home so the whole day yesterday me how was your Mexico trip what happened yes this weekend I went to California which is just south of San Diego what's the bled whatever with you lucky we wait for real got some nice friends yes what about a year what are you telling me date the nodding your head like that well I just posted all of your your season two trailer which was attention ladies and gentlemen that's right at one zero seven that's right see the hit weans on the hit show the rookie yeah and we had so much fun last weekend in La Hey this just happened we had a blast it was really fun and it got me thinking about girls trips and how important they are but I've been feeling a little bit of mom guilt to on the podcast only we have a video option that we're doing too so go to youtube and or website Masson weans dot com it's tries to get my voice how are you I'm good how are you good for those of you that are listening or just go does not remind guilt but that I've been gone each of these past weekends because I did the conference in La with you last week again and the weekend before that was not when I went up to La to party with you in that whole thing too so it's been three weekends in a row that I've really unlike why will you tell me later yes oh okay come on carry on I'm really hot can I take this trying to look presentable I've been home which is odd for me as a stay at home mom and so used to always being there right but with kids that are fourteen twelve and eight independent Dave is happy to take care of them or so he says and I don't know I think about almost fifteen but every weekend in a row I'm feeling like three weekends in arose little match or is that good is this what like working mums go through when they leave there isn't parenting that you've been a sole parent or I would say or the main go to person for the main amount of our just the summer that dad went away for stunt work is that what you're thinking to that was the only time I remember that and they went to Hawaii for trips there's conferences and they travel every week and and it's just normal mice growing up my kids are they going to remember this is the time that mom was being selfish or is it there's a day now I would who am I to tell you except that it sounds healthy to have that balance of getting away here and there and things like that we wanna deceit grandma's boobs God Old Lady boobs look like head underneath is he just saying that is there a little bit of a guilt trip he's trying to throw in there or is he just teasing me because he would say things like oh welcome back mum we we it are you getting blowback from your heavy no I'm not well no I'm not I couldn't read between the lines I really was like yeah see my mom had been there I wouldn't have done that so see screwed up for life all right I don't think there's anything to worry about got in the bathtub and shut the door and then I ran to my room crazy I think our ten come on you're curious normal curiosity my feelings I think you guys probably need and deserve it and you should have as many of them as you can tolerate and by the way we had brunch and not a breakfast because you had to sleep until we don't have to divulge too much you look at you don't we're podcast you just lay down in her bed folks and she's a Do you ever get resentful is it hard or what are you what are your feelings on that for real from your heart real no honestly it's holds a little childhood since it's all we have related reference sue anyone leaving and you being messed up over I love you honey it's so great knowing that I can just go freely and I have your full support one hundred percent support right right so Z. because we already have a routine established so this is your return on your investment of creating that routine Ceesay uh it was fun wine tasting we'll just say that but now you when you take care of the kids and you're doing all the house stuff when I'm gone he really is okay with it and wants me to finally enjoy my time he does recognize all the time I put in back in the day and still do I guess nightstand that has a little shell in there so she could get a peek at grandma boobs I was just curious about the yeah some of the things that they say about female friendships well first of all tell me about your friendship stroke because you were it's true that boobs droop so I snuck in while Graham was changing to get into the bathtub but I was so afraid to move that I just stayed behind the nightstand the whole and with my husband this is Dave I hi I just got back from this girl's trip wine tasting and talking about this a little bit recently to offline I think that I have my handful I've always had a few good friends you can count on one hand and have had them for twenty something years Oh you look like you know and so I'm sensitive to it so for me I was like the heat me he's mad at me but I did I so that's good but why mom guilt exists it's a real big thing why didn't you okay let's validation from everybody to tell me that it's okay looking down beauty of hair spread everywhere all right so when I was looking up all the staff trying to make myself feel better I found a lot of studies do you want to hear the classroom WanNa blow their identity and Willia- but and then you know both of you that was that did you catch all that that was so cute so it's all good feels pretty genuinely is a in this crew this weekend we have one that she's always the one that keeps us on the calendar and keeps US scheduled and Stephanie the next morning we have branch and I just wanted to hear Dave you're Feelings on girls trips and girls night outs in that kind of thing time the little fabric circular nightstand table and I knew WANNA put my little years up from behind to see what she was doing so I just hid there until she there's no like they know your history there's no judgment it feels like it's just kind of boil down to those core people next weekend I'm going to be gone the weekend after that you cool I'm totally fine with that I don't think your mom guilt will allow for that but yeah and how important that is but I feel pretty lucky that this is having because I think it is tough to see get through a lot of the stuff in female relationships right past all the immature staff and jealousy and insecurity and it's GonNa be since forever but but yeah my girl groups to I have kind of different little clusters sounds like you do too where it's like you know elementary school really being able to be out there with them in fact okay do you want to hear now we did a little recording while we were there because they knew I wanted to talk about this with them so so Dana Judy and a new friend Sandra Pompton last outing those girls are always fun all right I'm GonNa do this one okay here we go ready I am in Guadalupe Baja California Mexico and I'm here with my girlfriend and demaim fence and that's been the most recent the current one you know and but it's fun because those groups you can always fall back into and she's my Seal Beach Pal and I can call her with anything to noon that group of girls so it's Jannine Debbie and Brenda and we are on a girl's trip it's one of our friend's birthdays so I was just talking to them we're talking about monce trips and how important is she and then the Lake F. and little initials behind their name Jennifer be from New York I have Rachel see his gallivanting around the US for a crescent city heated. I'm sorry I just said Snug I've known her since our kids were what two years old time twelve stay at home moms where our sole job was nursing these babies feeding these babies making sure there and now we're at the age where they're more sneeze here too I've known her the exact same amount of time and she likes me more than Stephanie has been our organizers so tell me what your guys I've got more but those are probably people that call for stuff steph could tell them anything and then I have you know interviewed him today I got him to say it into my little phone you WanNa hear it shot and see what he says okay I'm GonNa pull it up real quick ends then there's college friends than work but club that kind of started from work so that's Kinda conglomerate it and then L. A. Friends are probably more recent but wonderful and owed Jennifer Martin too I forgot about Jennifer I'm sorry to forget about her tenants usually gems the glue that holds all that together where she always has a vincent things have we all shopped you see the party planner one that is a huge win that was when you were pregnant with Elliot that's right no we can say names and it's been forever but we have gone through evolution as MOMS Madman for all of us to stay connected number two we've had one person Stephanie Who's committed to meet a scheduler and gets out there and says really to have other moms to talk to well I think we are also all sociable people that were needing to get out and we were first time moms so we didn't Taylor as mothers and then take that home and feel good when we're with our kids and with our husbands and I was just talking to Cari how have any other friends so we had to find some Utah and so and we were all stay at home moms to which meant that we felt like we deserve to take it out this one's fourteen now so what is what is led us us five to still all be together and I think it's a couple of things first of all it's a super big man was very organic very like we we join this to cope with other moms and have something to do but the way we met was not and of course in the beginning only because it was like an organized thing but then as we hung out and a huge group we all found our people right like we kind of found each other because yeah and we can finally go out. Tell me your philosophy on mom's nights out mom's outings and Stephanie mistakes go have a cocktail and I think that was something they're women Cari that have cocktail everybody that's our on MOMS MOMS night outs MOMS trips mums outer vitally important to our well-being and how we relate be and it was it was natural we were able to be vulnerable and talk about that life is hard hard vulnerability is the key to doc once a month or twice a month and I think what's made us last over time no 'cause that's the difference I don't have a couple of nights but are her and our kids have gone to different schools and we still trust in different we all have different friends and that's okay but we've just special bond that no and you know and like this is the perfect example this weekend where we're in this country where I was here three weeks ago but then it was suggested we come here and I thought well I was just here but I don't necessarily I was just happened and warm this wonderful friendship that we've gone so many moms trick moms outings we we found each other through a playgroup so it was this girl's time it's it's vital it is vital it is what keeps me keeps going it's all a balanced so I love girls I love Yukari I love you too offense and get it out and then put back together by our tribe and dad were like anything I tell you guys I feel so comfortable that I'm going to be accepted actually having a good time or this is really our kid right now or I don't like my husband or I'm having a tough times God it's good and we know that will do anything for each other and we'd love when we can get together on a priority to all of us to make it happen not going to happen it's not gonNA happen each other's little sister wives we can all help each other's kids out we bounce parenting ideas off each other and go through situation the parents of the same what would you say or wanted something to do the stroller strides thing was an exercise thing and getting together have your kids integrate and guilty why is important things like that but there are some studies about female friendships oxytocin I read one of them yeah switching teams we'll get to that in other Okra said but these are rancor all I love him dearly and I can't say enough about ends and we really do lean on each other so anyway yeah so it was good we had a fun time I did look up some stats because I was feeling like about gotten a full sentence out honestly never they're like I I always joke that my son has an ear in my pocket because he is I love you and that was a ladder girl talk but that's so sweet so what do you think is different about us in Mike how did other people fall away how do we find what's different I think it's I love that it's what a great group offends you have yeah it really is real I mean we really do it's our tribe I love when Cari said that we are Tad Light Sir can't pass is we've had parents pass away I've had is with children I guess Dan miscarry this just say one thing my mind Joe you got a crowd connects and I don't know talk without our kids interrupting us without when was the last time around our kids or me life I am telling you it's true it's so true if we could all just like own our shit and say what our problems are and other and just say I'm not hey when are we getting together next and then I think we all generally have a really fun time together and we report a spouse is also we really genuinely care for each other and love each other let's I'm GonNa play that earned our K.. So estimate was too loud you ready Oh thank you you too all right parenting styles I would say styles socio economic can help having ask that we all just generally light to go out and have fun and we all like to the issues where sometimes we just WanNa like dish it out and get somebody else to acknowledge what we've gone yeah valid would it hurt let's okay I also had my friend Daphne whose birthday it was she gave us a little soundbite as well as Carla do we were GonNa play those real quick you want to go back but I'm not gonNA miss the chance that all five of us can be together now song came but it has to be a commitment it has to be in some times we that's like a small small percentage for sure bashing it's really just ending it's understanding where we all come from we all have like as parents and his mom like we have another part of us that we're not we always privy to share and we get a chance to share it with each other and and the thing you were at last night I was having cocktails are your best friends with those I can only be friends with some many right and I we found that we liked I do think it's so important to have MOMS night outs girls night out girls weekends girls trips well we okay whatever it is because all of US support each other's families right and I think that's what it comes down for sweeping through rely we've had divorces I moved my space too it's two hundred eas via Rancho Parkway and can beat out it's right by the North county all right so here's Carla yes you are one of my best best best town and we start a lot I don't know I mean in this world of social media and being perfect mom perfect volunteers all you have to stop a lot you really are are y'all can be honest and real and now so dave is always I do you guys decide go out and bash guys and I mean under six months later you start a germ line when I finally made it happened it was so cool is such a huge part of my sanity just like keeping it balanced otherwise I get lost in being a mom in being on on duty and this Ed's and we the time to be genuine and be silly yeah spirit to real girlfriends two we have right that's Carla she's my betty that's so cool I love she thought of that and he goes encourage the knee year's resolution thing that is that what you mean yeah yeah she's cute we we do that we will sit down sometimes we are kind of Dorks but will do these big trips you're like wait what did you say family we call it figures I'm like I can't talk big ears listening right might be a couple of rooms away and he's always like Because she gave quote I I tried to interview her but she got tired and she slept through one of the wineries the nurse on the backside on the backside and you walk right in you just find your way into my studio and it's great it's it's a big space a fun outside of being moms and it wasn't just about motherhood commonality and be wives and being who are we before and who are we going to of your bet she did this for me today she sent this to me so let's hear her thing whoops hold please took a nap on the bus which was great for her I couldn't believe she could sleep through all that noise but she did an woke up all refreshed and ready to go to the next one and I didn't get to in as women in general you know we're always second guessing to have whole group of people giving you encouragement yeah so it sounds like such a great group of friends awesome awesome we love her much in I can't imagine our friend little girls without you we have so many stories that were just so honest and so real and every time afterwards I might cracking up but it's it's free began we just we know that how the stress levels are reduced by friendship and especially for women that it's different in women versus men here we go the tend and befriend notion developed by Doctors Klein and Taylor may explain why women consistently outlive maybe once a year and we do what we call the compliment circle and we all sit there and go round the table and we give you the complimented so there was all these studies done and it was in men just traditionally were the subjects and they showed that ah under stress there's the fight or flight response but with the women they finally realized that there's a different response because they see I'm GonNa find it when women feel close to someone levels of progesterone a hormone that helps reduce stress the person so they believe that it played a role in establishing social bonds over the course of evolution they to mouse in Weans I'm mouse I'm Joel down in San Diego things eighty go up on this is from a University of Michigan Study and the surge also linked to a willingness to risk one's life for the Out Says Dr Klein that friends are helping us live longer okay so that was one thing that kept coming up all these studies I would look up was we have this to say and it's like as you're always in my flipping pocket your pocket no it's true is true well I have to say that you are the right word but for the most part it's just like we want to talk about things in our lives that are relevant that are important that are there like past like little things of why we love him and what they're good at and I don't know it's just so I think as moms you don't hear that an ally enough or just and I mean there's not many skeletons in the closet I mean not at all over all these trips and all these weekends and all these night-out no all right man study after study has found that social ties reduce our risk of disease by lowering blood pressure heart rate and cholesterol there's no the job they're good anyway there was all this science about it do we have time do you want yeah the science of it okay I mean play Daphne real quick she was the birthday girl the am with with the color. Can I say Whiz is that I mean don't go to the bathroom and say with and I it's a to it we're like do it you got it you did it you did it yeah okay Carla just opened a new hairstyle and you want to say the name a copy here studio and yeah I hope you all find a sister wife in life because it's super important we all make many sister right my family that's my sister sinead and if we remember to remember that one mom signed out where we all sat down and we said what are dreams were and one of yours was starting your own hair Salon Ali urging you and you're like I don't know I don't know how many years lower yeah like later not that far later asked me to be a woman it's true right we need to every connection are who we are sure we need this time or getaway in gone girl trips there superbowl that's right that's right and we call each other sister wives out to we give when they're together the oxytocin comes in and decreases that fighter flight feeling and lets you kind of hunker down with your kids and with your female when stress levels go down decreases risk of heart disease obesity depression no but there was something else about how it's fight or flight yet in women girlfriends or I mean I guess if you were lesbian would be different except they're the way that I see it is here's the it's important those good friends that will lift you up raise you up and I think there's something to just having no incentives with Oh Ucla School of medicine study about the OXYTOCIN and another study this one was cute prayer evils goal is scammell mole thing it's a monogamous rodent so they mate for life when researchers let me start that over when researchers asked more than ninety thousand women between fifty and seventy nine don't however women with strong female social ties girlfriends live longer than those without them okay so this is good friendship pretty reliable because it was out of such a large group so it's less likely to be coincident says Nancy freeborn Dr p h adjunct professor of Health Administration and policy boy that was anticlimactic. Maybe we cut this Roy up it's important for our health to have these friendships you guys this the bottom line self esteem what other letters there's all sorts of studies married men live longer than single men yet women who marry have the same life expectancy as those who so we're highly influenced by our girlfriends important for girls to not just women but we need to know this for those of us who have daughter the friends can help you live long I think it was just it was in this supervisors already being Hetero that there is no incentive from curls when you're just solid solid tiny just listens tells the good here it is okay this is that I think Daphne said it the tend and befriend instinct we weren't now Friends can motivate you to be healthier close friends doing exercise saving money volunteering good behaviors friends teach you about yourself I'm GonNa go get yourself all dolled up you're not going to try to put on airs or be something you're not because you're not trying to like meet with them or attract them or something like that if your friends in the workplace they help you with promotions networking mentoring opportunities career development advancement and how much social support they had those who said they had more support were likely to still be living in the follow up years later the difference was slight but the data is love soap and they had that big they indicated that seventy percent of women feel prettier because of their relationships with female friends is keep you razor-sharp so something about a memory function friends can help you live longer friends can boost your career yeah good okay here's some quick points I'm going to do a quick list ready friends lower stress free they were raised with Oh gee that with I think it was the oxytocin receptors on a certain part of the brain the whole thing there so they conducted a survey and two thousand American women mothers were surveyed and they had kids between ages five and twelve years old they started the day okay okay good you found it friends lower stress when women feel close to someone levels of progesterone the same thing drew than this net versus wants to talk so saying incentive meaning like you're not is that what you mean just that you have because there's not sexual energy in my case from the Women Exchange Yell at your and so because I kind of made that promise I feel indebted to that a little bit like I owe that and so this evolution as the kids get older and I'm finding more anybody be healthy are you mentally healthy to be able to let me ask you this on a personal note do you feel more refer tend to our young and be with our friends versus the men who are fighter flight so all in one study there's also I have when a male vol- is put in a stressful situation he runs who's female partner and females been stressed immediately rent to the female per week and they put in the equivalent to two and a half fulltime jobs so that's really only just nine point seven hours a day it just helps you see yourself in your friendships friends help you feel better I'm a lack of friendships and social support increases the risk of developing about myself again and looking into my own interests. I guess it's just the self-imposed guilt and a need to drop that this is where I need to keep them Ashton available for your kids were excited to be with them after you've taken this weekend show okay yeah so isn't it healthier for your kids to have a better mom I myself this is my block is feeling guilty feeling like I have to be the one doing the parenting and being in control and I don't know I think there was innings diety or depressive disorder Oh yeah and then how much do moms really work this was crazy I saw the study it was a news source in two thousand seventeen not putting on airs or just seeing some looks good to try to woo them or get them through something or get them in the sack whatever honest feedback yeah off glasses friends don't make fun of you in your eyesight goes yes people strive to present themselves as positive Dan do all one thing all the time so a little bit of this a little bit of that I put the question out there I'm just the young dumb newly married me kind of made a promise with Dave I remember having this conversation like hey if I had become a state Mesa this stuff in hearing from friends here from you and just retrain my brain that way so just remember that one hundred hours a week how could this is yours we're all just trying to build each other up there at least I felt that way made some really good friends there too it needed to still very cool okay at six twenty three a m and they clocked out at eight thirty one PM which I can relate to that's like my schedule they work fourteen hours a day and one hundred hours aw healthy it was healthy when mom and dad went away which they didn't very often but and they went on a week vacation and were hanging out grandma knows very important time it was good or their partner or they'd prefer to be alone that they don't prioritize I guess going out with girlfriends or they're gonNA die earlier saying that mom's night outs and things like that were a little bit overrated overweight just that they'd prefer to be with their spouse why I don't want a mom's night out but she says when she does get alone time she likes to spend alone she doesn't want to opted people and I've found that as people talk about their friends they are often talking about their current or the stuff they'd like to become so I guess or healthy available parent helping out I know when you hear statistics like that because you know that's true I know that's true about you yeah this is the stuff I need to keep to get a job like I'm leaving more often and I'm going and doing my thing so it's it I think shows them that balance good right you at home mom I will cook clean I will raise the babies I will make the food I work out I just put myself into this really traditional role I mean yeah it's all like choices and it's fine but and then I found this blogger who said the same thing her article was titled Aldrin or something or maybe her mom friends aren't at that level rate maybe they're more like superficial 'cause then she says something else which the idea of a break from my kids is taking a shower without them in the bathroom for fifteen minutes not an entire evening of leaving my husband with the kids while I go out with was surprising she said everybody says you need girl time she goes I get that girl time when the kids have plates or get togethers it's just a bunch of MOMS there with anybody watch her kids like she's picky about who watches her kids she feels like she'd rather be enjoying a good book or spending quality time with her husband okay your sleep meals personal care and mental breaks so all combined would you ever feel guilty about taking a girl's trip when you have another other moms it's just not my thing I was like okay girl you I just can't see that fifteen minutes in a shower that's enough time the other thing is healthy I think for them to be away from you and for them to bond with Dave and all of that is all good they can't I think there's something unhealthy about having your mom available the time they need to know yeah I mean really I'm not just saying that to make you feel better kids when I take the kids dance class or soccer or church or it's it's nothing but girl time she goes it's all the same conversations take that to the bank okay suck it Well I get I just hear stories like the so much and I don't that's what leads me to believe that she doesn't have that deep real friendship where she can talk candidly it must just be all surface level MOMS night out you know where they talk about the kids amy because they don't have my own kids than guilt that comes with it but there's so many people that write about like stop you're kind of driving yourself into the ground and kind of healthy let's see this lady also says you need a break from your husband and she's my word do you people marry men you do not is me up in that I'm passionate about and they appreciate more when I'm home I think in you know it is kind of like stay at home mom goes she's true right don't you remember working at Nerkin and the female friendships and we all can lift each other up and now I don't know there was none of the kind of cutthroat this is them so she's coming crazy but I'm raising little people I enjoy being around and socializing with do get tired of parenting somedays absolutely but my yeah because then I'm really like wanting to bonding let's sit down let's play this you know look the I looked them in the eye it's yeah you need a break from your kids and she says no I don't need a break for my kids she says I'm starting to think that other parents just don't like their kids as often as they want breaks for okay so you're really needing that person to feel good about yourself

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Rosie Perez, Fortune Feimster & Big Mouth's Ayo Edebiri: Fight And Flight

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Rosie Perez, Fortune Feimster & Big Mouth's Ayo Edebiri: Fight And Flight

"This is an encore episode of. Ask me another. Oh hello faira. Izenberg from npr's s. Hello john colton. I wasn't sure if you were going to be up and around. 'cause i was wondering how you know happy happy next day. Birthday is my birthday was yesterday. And and you're right man. I'm moving a little slow because what a party at home. Yeah yeah it was. It was lovely. thank you. There's been a lot of birthdays by the way in the last year. I don't know if i told you this. But i was like looking at facebook and i was like kat i how many people were bored in and then i was like the last eight months right. Probably about three quarters of the people in the world. that's all. I ever sees birthdays on facebook. How many people were like. Oh no it's just that this is. I've been in a holding pattern for eight months. Yeah exactly right. Yeah so for a milestone birthday milestone birthday. It's a birthday with a zero at the end. And i am not twenty okay so it's milestone birthday. So did you have any visions before your birthday. Let's say like at your last birthday what you wanted for this birthday. I am so old. And i've given up in so many ways. I cannot even remember. I i was trying to. I was trying to describe this phenomenon. It's like i have gotten to the age now where it's more. It's less about like a water. My hopes for the future. And it's more about sort accepting like. Oh this is how it is. Now kid i deal with. What did i with that. I guess i'm gonna have to continue to work these truths into my life because here they are again a year later. Okay so no expectation. You had no expectations going into the birthday. Obviously and because it's pandemic you know what could you expect anyways. Yeah well so. Here's what here's what happened. I was at home. My daughter asked me a couple of days ago. What is your favorite kind of cake. And i knew why she was asking. You're like we doing a bak- and we watched a movie so it was a pretty low key but it was lovely family family time and i will say also the my daughter wrote on the cake. Happy birthday you are old af which i believe means you are old and friendly as far as i can see. It's very very trunk. As far as i can see and had it tasty the cake it was delicious. Fantastic the taste it. It tasted like love. That is oh my goodness well. I gotta say birthdays over so back to work do show. Yeah you're right. All right theme song get ready for a song that is theme e af from npr and wnyc ntr's. Our puzzles word games and half a century of excellence asked me another. I'm jonathan colton. Here's your host fear eisenberg. Thank you jonathan. We have a great show for you today. From do the right thing and white men can't jump. Rosie perez joins us. We talk about everything from her love of boxing to our new. Hbo mac show the flight attendant and from flight to fight. Comedian and star of the movie. Chick fight fortune. Teamster is here to play games with her friend. Comic and actor jillian bell also from the new season of big mouth. I o debris faces off against her. Podcast co host libya craighead. Let's do it. Our cadessus are two amazing. Comedians and actors fortune five star appears in the movie. Chick fight available right now on. Demand and jillian bell plays a fairy godmother in godmother d- which debuted this weekend on disney plus fortune five. Stor jili bill. Hello hi fortune new movie. I'm excited about finally chick-fil-a. It is sort of interesting because we you see all these like female versions of great stories in the past year. And now if i was like fight club this is the one that should be done. Yeah it'd been waiting for the time that we get to see women kick some booty. Yeah it's cool because it's not it's not like the female version of fight club that iconic movie. It's impossible to try to remake that it's a fun movie where these women happen to have a fight club to work out their therapy issues and before we started filming the director was like can use in me a video of like what you know about fighting and i was like so i'm like recounting like every video game i've ever watched jax. My my now wife was videoing. Me film whatever you call it. I'm trying to do the kicks in the air and she's laughing the whole time. This is the action part of the movie. Not comedy part of the movie. This into honey worked out. That i was the ref i could. Just yell and julia. Do you have a new project. Just debuted on disney. Plus this weekend. Yeah godmother's you play fairy godmother that i mean that's kind of for the little oh fear that's the dream role. Oh my gosh. all. I've ever wanted to play in my life is a witch kobe's folks practical lodging and this movie has a ton of spells and i was just so excited to get to player. It's also a comedic role. Yes she finds a letter from a little girl and when she shows up she finds out the letter was old and the the little girl is now of forty year old woman who is a single mom and does not want her help and goes to a fight club at night to work got another. That's okay well. In your first game you're gonna be competing against each other. Okay here we go. It's a multiple choice game amount incorrect historical predictions. Okay fortune. this one's for you in nineteen hundred ladies. Home journal published a list of predictions about the future. Which of the following guesses did it make about the future of the english alphabet. Oh that's a here. You go why to prediction. Here's here's your choices that the letters c x and q would be removed due to redundancy that you and w would join forces to become triple you or that the alphabet would be replaced by a new more streamlined alphabet called. Alpha's ed Well i didn't know that ladies home journal went back to nineteen hundred i did. I don't know if i gave me a point clearly. They were allowed to talk about anything. Taboo they were like. Let's predict the l. Not allowed have opinions. Unless it's about alphabet. I guess yeah. Correct as correct literacy x. would be removed due to redundancy. The ladies. are drinking tea like who needs to really talk about it. good we just. Don't you think we should just get rid of it or jillian. here's one for. You is a moth predicted that. By two thousand fourteen household televisions would take the form of a magazines filled with tournament. Glass pages be transparent. Rotating cubes filled with three d holograms or see a tiny hand-held screened that ruins your life. Well i'm going to guess at the last one's a joke joke i. I know that that's a humorous joke. I'm gonna guess the gentleman thought it'd be transparent rotating cube silver three d holograms. You're absolutely right yes fortune. Yeah in the nineteen thirties. Some fashion designers were asked to predict the fashions of the future which of these hair trends was predicted for the year. Two thousand okay. A buzz cuts for men and women to avoid getting space helmet head. Be flashlights in your hair or see cat ear. Headbands ooh cat your head. Bins are fun. I feel very popular very parties. I don't know that they knew that was possible. We'll go to space before we have a thing called cat. You're the first one. Was buzz cuts for men and women face helmet. Yeah i feel like in the thirties. That something that they would think that like by the two thousands everyone would be in space. Some are a. I'm sorry you're incorrect flashlights. The answer is flashlights. I know for for women. One designer predicted address dress of aluminum and an electric headlight to help her find. An honest man was that fashion designer on mushrooms jillian yes in nineteen forty-nine popular mechanics predicted that computers of the future would have what features a they would have a mere one thousand vacuum tubes be they would weigh a mere one point five tonnes or see both of the above. I would say yes and always be. It is both knows like what i used to have scientists. I had a professor who i would go up to and be like. I'm not sure singing that the answer is b. and he's like that no leading towards d. team. When i was when i was a junior in high school. I never done this before. But i was so bad at math that i actually cheated on my final exam and it was. I've never done it before. I'm such a goody two shoes but i cheated and i didn't put enough of the work showing how i got to the answer so i gave it to him and he goes. Did you cheat. And i go no can. He goes sit out immediately. I gave him a no with a question. Well done nice job. I feel like you learn something as well. Yeah more with comedians fortune teamster and jillian bell after the break plus iowa debris and olivia crank had poppy into play a game about songs with the words. Yeah in them. I'm up your eisenberg and this is asked me another from. npr this message comes from npr sponsor. Bourbeau the family reunion will be extra special this summer so checkout virgo to find a private whole vacation home with something for everyone. A private pool outdoor space a grill. Whatever the family is looking for. You'll find it on virgo and if plans change you can cancel for free on select properties. Download the bourbeau app. The time for getting back together is now capitalism touches every part of our lives capitalize on is a giant force. That i don't understand. I feel very safe system on top away in fear. Lose my job. It is our biggest success that our biggest failure on this special series from through line capitalism. Listen now to the through line. Podcast from npr. This is asked me another. Npr's our puzzles word games and eggnog for one. I'm jonathan colton. Here's your host oprah eisenberg. Thanks jonathan we're playing games with comedians actors and friends fortune teamster and jillian bell. Okay are you ready for another one. Yes please. Yes please write. This is exciting because jonathan colton is going to sing the clues to you in this next challenge. it's a music parody. Game called musical food pyramid. Yes so we have taken songs by artists with a food in their name. Think meatloaf your smashing pumpkins and rewritten one of their songs to be about that food to earn the point named the food. I'm singing about and if you want to show off you can give me the full name of the artist behind the original song but that is not required. All right okay. Do you want fortune tonight. A warm you. Up for sees vocally fifteen minutes vigo mortenson german shepherds go mortenson german shepherd german. Shepherd never heard that. But i love it. It's from a sketch so we did two women who warmed up all right jillian. Jillions going to go first. We're going to go back and forth and you're competing against each other so okay this is for all the marbles if you want some ocean spray just go away get to you know. I'm not being. It's how they pick until flow. Tweeden tomita cranberries the cranberry cranberries. That's good jillian. Do in the name of that song linger it's called later okay legumes. Cooking will be happen. Johnson's just rag peas. Black peas is correct. Yeah do you know the song. 'cause nights go to goodnight. That'd be great night. keep going. I got a feeling. Tonight's it's i gotta feeling correct. I believe was commissioned by bar mitzvah deejays. That is all right julianne. This is for you okay. Sometimes if ben spies pile on the scoville scale cry now we good the capstick on jopseh untouched. Matt that's beautiful by the heights really peppers correct under the bridge under the bridge. Yeah that's right jillian good job. Great job thank you so much you guys i needed. I needed all that. Okay this red and needed homemade pie. Plan mankind to choose mad. Add some granny smith. Just because i'm a woman woman. Yes feeling i is. That is that what she says. But i honestly don't know the name of gillian knows criminal criminal criminal. It was very important that you get that correct for all women i know because Thank you and she's a bad memory. Right jillian this view cut through that shoot home. Jelly poured downtown family pearl jam. Trying to better is that right. Better man better man murderer. You guys are both great. all right. last one is for you fortune. Okay hey something where the class that is hans and gluten to. I'd like to bake this with you. Beautiful for i guess it. Yeah i don't know. I don't think it's not come. I know it but you can guess it. Just rent the hint. Sake it with you water flour and yeast a crawl earth wind and fire food food about how you make food food that has made with east there that bread ban bread bands otherwise known as bread bread weight. The band's called breath band's called bread it was the seventy s. You could do this band brand for real messing with me. no no. that's a real band. Joe about bread to either of you know the name of the song definitely. I don't make it with you. That will do little double meaning. Yeah they're not talking about talking to okay. You both did incredible. Thank you so much for playing games with us. Thank you thank you jillian. Thank you for having a thank you for having us. That was fun. Fortune teamster stars in the movie. Chick fight now available on demand and jillian bell stars in godmother which debuted this weekend on disney plus our next you contestants are on the line i o debris voices the character of missy and the new season of the netflix animated series. Big mouth which dropped this weekend and she hosts the podcasts iconography with her fellow contestant comedian. Olivia craighead i o olivia. Hello hi so i am. I right in saying that you are on the west side of the united states right now back on the east side okay. But but these days. I've been residing west to see in person for the first time in like a year the other day which was very thrilling to lilly sat across the day with we sat across a long table like outside from each other gossiped and just gossip with mass on. It was perfect. You know what. I was actually just talking to someone who said to me. The one of the things that he misses the most is live. Gossip is yes island. I have constantly been saying that the pandemic has brought on like gossip because people aren't like making bad decisions out at the club anymore. So it just kind of like it's harder work. It's we find a way. But you know i haven't looked at a us magazine like fashion police thing in a long time. But i'm sure that's not having its heyday all the fashioned police. Anybody were all wearing like the same. Like gray sweatpants and a master and a mask. Yeah yeah yeah so. The celebrities are struggling nowhere for them to go there. Getting pap outside the grocery store like it's nobody's business. That's where they have to go now. That's the step and repeat a whole foods. All right we have a couple of great games. Free one play some games. Yes excellent so in our first game you're going to be playing against each other. You're gonna be competing so we'll go back and forth. We are going to give you the trait or characteristic of an animal and to animals to choose from and your job is just to guess which animal has more of the certain trait. Okay we also have some hands. If you want are both famously competitive so good we will. We'll see. I mean like olivia always. You're free to ask for him. I just want you to know that that is so rude. I need demolish. You need to win okay. Olivia which animal can lay more eggs at once a platypus or an emperor penguin okay. I feel like the penguins get like the one. And then they like cold that little egg and they're nook for a long time so i'm going to go with the platypus you're correct. Yeah a platypus can lay up to three eggs in one clutch. I was not aware that that was the term. But there you go watch it. What does that mean about me into it right. I'll which animal has more eyeballs starfish or a scallop. I know did you dummy. Nobody wants to think about the eyeballs of either one of those animals. Okay because i feel like. I want to answer starfish. That i'm gonna answer scallop. You're going to go with a trick question theory. This theory has served you well. You are correct. Klutz though a starfish. Sunflower see store for example has an eye on the end of each one of its legs so it can have up to. Twenty four is one per leg. Obviously but scallops. You could do that for the show. Go ahead and google. Scallops is because it is the stuff of nightmares. Scallop has two hundred telescopic. No i'm gonna tell you right now. I'm not googling it. Olivia which animal has more teeth. A great white shark or a slug. Oh okay so this feels really trick question name. But 'cause sharks have rows of teeth you know so it's like i am going to go with the answer that i don't want it to be which is slug eleven. Yeah that's yeah so you were right. The great white shark can have up to like three hundred teeth in. Rose you said but your average land slug has thousands of teeth teeth. What are they eating. Those must be so small. They are very small right now. This is the last question which animal poops more a rhino hippo. A love this nine hour hippo hippo. And here's the thing that don't really will okay. Rhinos are sort of on land. Walking around right then does kinda like kind of like everywhere like land see. They're like words are on the go like hippo vibes. Supervise some field. Some hiccups today. it's actually. The answer is rhino. Well wait a minute. I don't know why but rhinos poop as much as fifty pounds per day. Well hippos only around twenty two pounds. I want to spend this around. And i'm going to say i think it's good that i got this one wrong. Actually it'd be so sick. I think. I i wouldn't be able to look at you again. That's why don't ask me how well done. I feel that was perfect. And you both did. Incredible both credible. So i ask olivia i. Oh would you like to play another game. You're not gonna believe this. But yes. I know i'm so luckily we were. You could go either way. We do have another one either way. Okay so this is a totally different direction. This game is called. Yes in history so positive something positive. So we're doing to play you. The yeah part of a well known song and you are going to give us the name of the artist the name of the song you could also just say. Yeah that's worth a point. Okay okay great to know things. I like the wave by i. Oh here's one for you. Yeah by usher annoyed. That i owe got the like easy lydia featuring lil. Jon ludicrous. i mean what do you want from me. Well well okay. I knew that you could get three points in a one point game. Olivia here is a clue for you. Okay that is miley. Cyrus party in the us absolutely correct. We're more wrecking ball. These i would say than party in the us. I i saw her on that tour on the bangers tour and she led closed out the show with party in the usa and she got on a hot dog that like flu around party in the usa. And i frankly have never experienced more joy in my life. That's amazing all right. This this one is for you. In my head i go. Is this like a puff or something. I don't know what yes. Yes hip hop well-done then wait it's is the that's the most popular song. Yes listens to me. Is it like boy with love. Yes let's go you. U2 as the one because once on twitter. I asked. Should i get into gts. That sounds like a mistake. Very nice to me. And then this girl sent me a video of a live compilation. That was just. I think this part of the song and the like dancing. Like elliott elliott. Which you won't be able to see my answer. Say on the radio or pardon was perfect. Really good vacant. They can do. You can do everything to the un one time talented. I've been down the rabbit hole. All right this is the last clue and it's for you. Olivia wow okay. I am madda myself or not immediately knowing what song this is. Iowa's like macaulay culkin home alone facing the right now. I was so mad at me. I'm completely blinking on this song that we cannot say the full name of the song on the radio. Oh a bleep ape shenanigans shenanigans shenanigans amazing. Because you're so much fun. Thank you so much for joining us. We had so much fun. I owe a debris and olivia crackhead host. The podcast iconography. And i always in the new season of big mouth on netflix. Right now coming up. The unstoppable unflappable. Rosie perez joins us to talk about voicing messages on the new york city subway and meeting george foreman and muhammad ali. This interview is a dare. I say the greatest of all time. Yup pretty sure i will fear eisenberg and this is asked me another from. Npr support for npr in the following. Message come from cultural. Who want you to know that. An estimated forty five million americans may have ibs according to the international foundation for gastro intestinal disorders cultural ibs. Complete support is a medical food for the dietary management of ibs is designed to relieve symptoms like abdominal pain bloating. Diarrhea and caused a patient in a safe well tolerated once-daily dose save twenty percent with promo code radio on cultural dot com. This is. npr's asked me another. I'm jonathan coleman. Here's your host fear eisenberg. Thank you jonathan. It's time to welcome our special guest. She is an actor known for her roles in do the right thing. White men can't jump and was nominated for an academy award for her role in fearless her new show. The flight attendant is on hbo. Max it's rosie perez hello rosie alo- a rosy. I heard your voice. Because i know the summer you and chris rock were recruited by the mta to record public service announcements for all of us riders to encourage people to wear a mask while riding on the bus or subway. That's correct yes governor. Cuomo's office all this both And we did not know that we were going to be asked to do the mt a campaign. We were just asked to come to his press conference movie. He was having a day at a press conferences. And you know. I remember creased backstage. She goes. this is big. This is big year like doing out. Civic duty here on a national stage actually a worldwide stage in and then about a week or two later on his senior top advisor. Mimi reisner called me and said would you do this. Would you do it in spanish. And i said okay. My spanish is in great. I i sound like new eureka and she goes well. That's why we're asking. I said oh. Okay and i said. Are you sure you want to use my voice to have you know the writers here every single day. Every eight minutes she goes. Es item in and so we went forward and it was. It was huge. Honor was like you know talk about civic duty. It was really huge jonah. So yeah. I was just thinking about now. Would you walk around the streets with a mask on. Everyone's a little bit more anonymous do like a little bit more anonymity walking around you know i love. I love people who recognize me and tell me that they liked my work. I love it. I really do what. I gotta tell ya. I'm loving this. I keep it up on. The only problem is as soon as i talk. Everyone takes a double look like once. I tried to british accent. Which i was horrible at and i could get away with her. Get through and then. The cashier at the grocery store goes. Okay ms perez. I got. I got it so just reaching back. You made your film debut in spike. Lee's do the right thing and like back in the eighties. When you meek spike lee your your first of all your you meet in los angeles which there's two people that you know you say new york it ever goes all rosy pres- spackling new york but yet you meet in los angeles. Why were you in los angeles. I was in los angeles. Because i was going to college. I was a biochem major. I decided that. I wanted to transfer all my credits and moved back home to new york and try to get into stony brook in a night. Before i was leaving. I went to a nightclub and got into an argument with spike lee. And the rest of the history. And so when you're at the club you you were pulled off stage after interrupting a contest which i'm assuming about contest is exactly what i think it is. Yes it is is of butts. Yes and you were interrupting it. Because i was mocking it because i found it dickey's and i found that so insulting so i- bento said is dyslexia one that lives and spike lee started laughing at me and it kind of angered me to the point where are telling him off and he kept laughing even more and he said this is fate and i said oh honey you which and he goes now. You don't know what i mean. You know what. I mean and right. And then he's like you should play my girlfriend exactly now. Obviously that was a great role. You've done so many great rules. And i said interviews that when you were going out for roles like in white white men can't jump and fearless that you know these were roles. That weren't actually looking for whatever was considered your type right. You were told that they were intended for white women and not for you But then you went in and not only got the job but made those roles pretty iconic. So how did you convince them that. You should go out for these roles. Well when i initially got into the business. I had a rep. That kept telling me i wasn't. I would never get a shot at those roles. So i fired and and jennifer gray. The actress wonderful person. When i told that story she called up a ca and said you need to rep. this girl. And i said listen. I i only want you to sign me. If you're going to get me the jessica lang roles you know and my last rep told me will you know just colleen go not yet honey. I haven't had the opportunity. You know also i you know. She was a model while. I was a dancer what i was a college kid. What what's the difference. The color of my skin. This is ridiculous. Right em they said we got you. I said you get me in the room. I will do the rest in if i don't get the role than this on me. And they got me into those rules. And that's that's how things change. People don't really understand but just on a regular day to day basis. What people of color have to go through just to get a fish shot in life. You know it was hard to be honest. You know there was a lot of times. I didn't get the roles. There was a lot of times where i had to say. Notes specific offers units. Like i don't wanna do that. I don't wanna do that. And there were a lot of times where i just leading work and you go out on the streets and people go. Oh why aren't you doing more movies than gaul. What's a long story but don't shoe worry. I'm not giving up. you know. This is only like the tenth round. And i got two more rounds to go and i'm going to win the belts. Don't worry about that. And i just had you know you just have to have that belief in yourself and keep going if this is really what you wanna do you know you. Just gotta keep going. Yep keep telling everyone to Put it what they think aside. Because there's another possibility and you know so and you're in a new show on. Hbo max the flight attendants so the show is a murder mystery and a comedy. You play making a first class flight attendant. Who is the co worker of the main character eighth thirtyish like party girl cassie played by kaley. Cuco and sh-. She's tried to piece together. The events of a drunken night that have led to her waking up beside a dead body first question. Are you the murderer. i am not privy to. The funny thing is is that when they offered me this role. I i said no in my manager tacos wise hate lying travel and then the eagles alright so he goes back he tells them and then he said he called me right back. He said kaley local said she wants to meet you. She's not taking that or your final answer. Really miss spain. Sure i'll be will they. She ain't gonna change my mind. And i'm so glad i did it. We had such a grand time. The entire cast and crew. We all got along working twelve hour days. And then we're like in italy and everybody ended up at the bar at the hotel. We hung out all the time you know because we really really were all happy that we were on this fantastic project in that we liked each other and that we all respected the work. Yeah that sounds i mean. There's so many things you said in there that i want so badly drink at a hotel bar with you guys. You love boxing. Yes so you grew up watching matches on television. Yes yes yes on back then it was. Abc world sports boxing. Every almost every day but nights fiercely specifically on friday nights and the weekends. When our call cell. And i used to do that was such a dork. I'm a nerd. That's why this show. Because of ninety i just you know i believe so because you were not the first lady of boxing. We have an amazing game for you. Are you god rosie. Are you up and ask me another challenge. This is not kind of you know. I mean they won't be the first lady of boxing and you were setting me up to have my first lady a boxing card revoked. All right it's about the greatest of all time muhammad ali. So it's it's fine. We're going to give him a hobby and all the quote as you know. He said a bazillion amazing things. He's very quotable. And you are just going to finish the quote. I'll give you three possibilities and you just tell me which one is the one. You think it is okay. You know this one float like a butterfly sting like a sting like murder hornet the sting like a bee or c. Sting as my favorite musician. That is the hornets. I saw on the news. I said i said honey almond god. This murder hornets. He goes rolls. Really believe me. I wrestled with an alligator tussled with the whale. A handcuffed lightning and a thrown thunder in jail. Be lived to tell the tale or see tangled with a snail led to tell the tale as thrown thunder in jail. That has actually said that before. George foreman fight. Let's clip of that. I have russell woulda alligators. I don tussle. What a whale out on. Handcuff lightning -unding ban. It is interesting that muhammed ali. I guess he was interested. But if muhammad ali came out with a grill to compete with george foreman grill. What a what. I'm saying is slightly better grill exactly. I've met george foreman in hawaii and we're at this hotel and they had this brunch buffet and simply my god champ. How you doing. My name is rose press. How you doing he goes. How're you doing darling. And i know you you. The white men can't jump girl. I said yes and he goes. Come be my son. George and my other son george son to it as you name all your kids. George he goes. It's a great name. That's right that's right okay. Let's get this one the quote if you ever dream of beating me dot dot dot. What's the end of it. Is it a albie your worst nightmare in the ring is it be you better wake up and apologize or is it c. l. beach. You like an italian meringue in the show. Stop around of the great british bake off. I love that. Show me to taunt makes me feel very calm. What is her name. Maybe perry mary berry yet. Maybe and looked me baby. Yeah what was the show. If you dream of beating me is at. Aol be your worst nightmare in the ring. Be you better wake up and apologize or seal beach. You like an italian meringue and the showstopper round of the great british bake of feel like it's not that one is it be well let's have mohammed ali himself. Tell us if he dreamed that he better wake up an apologize. The best quotes. i mean. that's so funny. Yeah i. I had the privilege of meeting mohammed ali and really. It wasn't a great circumstance. But i take it but it was amazing. I was in the middle of fight of almost beating this woman up. That is another story. And he put his hand on me. And i thought it was security and i turned around and i said yet you. Oh my god it's the chair of the no no no. I wasn't supposed to be too late piece. Oh my god. I'm humiliated and he you sh- any lowered is handling calmed out. I calmed down in an instant and his wife. Lana she put her hand is red. Is all right rosie. I go you know who i am. And they said yes in the champ knows who you are as. Oh my god is you wanna come sit with us and this is right before they were gonna try to throw me out by the way and and i said no she goes. You don't wanna come sit with the champ. I said unto humiliated said. I wasn't supposed to meet you like this. And he whispered something in my ear. Which i won't repeat it was private and eyeballed like a little girl. And he held me in his army hugged me and he wiped my tears and he says comes with us and years later after he passed arrested so i saw his wife again and she goes you remember me as do i remember you and i said that was the most humiliating night. Every she goes we loved it. as what. Because you were so fierce you you in so fearless in you really did have a sense of self in a sense of dignity like a real champion and i started bawling although vow. Yeah grass of story. I've ever heard of amazing. Amazing wasn't a good look for me but it was great member. I guess right. I guess depending on what side you rod. Obviously a lot he was like we thought it was great. Different perspective perspective. All right well. Here is another quote. Oh god was still playing. I know you tried to distract with a beautiful story but it didn't work where onto it you. We're on okay. I'm so fast that last night and does it finish a. I turned off the light and was in bed before the room was dark. Be ahead my pajamas. On before i could even say it's cozy time or see. I finished counting all the sheep. All right let's listen. Let's listen if you got that right last night. I cut the light off my bedroom hit. The switch was in for the room with dog in better pass. That is right. i turned off. The light was in bed before the room was dark. Normally i don't like speed in the bedroom. But i like that quote all right all right. This is the very last one. So we're almost there. Okay the quote begins. 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HR 2 : Trades, Trades, Trades

Mason & Ireland

44:32 min | 3 months ago

HR 2 : Trades, Trades, Trades

"Straight to the super bowl matthew stafford straight to the super bowl i pre service training camps open and first preseason game john is august the fourteenth. I have marked my calendar rams versus chargers in a game where we will see. We will not see matthew stafford or any starters. Anybody that's going to play a significant role in team. But i can't wait to see the new stadium with a football game. Actually going on so John last night. And we're continuing to monitor. Exactly what is going on with max scherzer and keeping an eye on any other major league baseball trades. That could go down. The deadline is twenty three hours from right. Now it's tomorrow at one o'clock our time. Meanwhile the nba draft is tonight and that could mean trades including trade for the lakers. Tonight there. Lots of rumors out there lakers Little bit of encouraging news. Yeah k- john hayman okay. I trust john hayman just tweeted fifteen seconds ago padres are surely very interested in aggressive in their pursuit of top trade target max sherzer but source insists. There are multiple teams chance. Those teams are believed to include the dodgers and perhaps the giants red sox and one other team. So maybe not done yet. Maybe here's an interesting nugget. As the trade this kyle glazer's good baseball writer as the trade deadline heats up one thing to remember only about one in five prospects traded at the deadline. End up playing more than one season in the majors and producing a positive career wins above replacement so another words most of the prospects that cadel twenty percent of the prospects will have a chance to make it in the big leagues and eighty percent will never hear from again. So this is part of your proven. Always trade unproven proven. And i would argue that. What friedman he trades the right unproven and keeps keeps the ones that have real potential. We've had success in our minor league system. He hasn't given up somebody who has come back to haunt him so we'll keep track of all that stuff for you last night on. The restaurant called the cloverfield which is really nice. It is over here. It's on airport right near sent nella. Nice place okay. Outdoor patio so eyewitness to interactions. And i wonder if this is common and older couple was sitting at their table across the patio from us and the husband got up and went to the kitchen door like the kitchen door. The silver one that opened closes in. I would call it not allowed. I call it like a medium. Loud voice said my wife needs her food. She's hungry meanwhile at the host position to he said it into the kitchen it must have been somebody a waiter waitress that just inside the kids k. Then at the host position a woman was arguing with the hostess about why there weren't more tables not enough tables here at the cloverfield and instruct me. That what i've seen since the pandemic has ended is people have forgotten how to be nice and polite indecent have you found that the pandemic I think there is a general no matter where you go whether it be in an airport or in line to get coffee or i think there is a general anger out there that maybe didn't exist. Pre pandemic am. I haven't seen it. Manifests itself exactly like that. But i think service in general. I don't know if you've found this but service in general has really gone. Bad has really suffered. Do you think service when you say services suffered. What do you mean that. It's harder to get good service in a place like a restaurant like where you're so because of that people are less patient because of the pandemic and so the combination. Those two things like most restaurants are having trouble getting people to show up for work So i think it's a it's a citrus. Eight that alright breaking news before the other one this has to do with. The dodgers lakers center. Mantras herrell is opting in all good to his ten million dollars. Actually nine point seven million dollar player option for next season now. This was expected. Because the i don't think he was going get ten million anywhere else. Yup but so now the lakers know exactly what they're dealing with and whether or not they could like for example they could put trez deal or they could keep him and use him as a frontline guy and go get a guard. I mean now. They know what they're dealing with. He's at nine million or so that he's opting into nine point seven nine points any he immediately becomes for the lakers tradeable piece. You know they're tradeable. Pieces are mantras. Ma and casey. Kcpt those are really. They're tradeable piece. I guess they could work something out on to trade sign and trade with t. h. t. But i'm not necessarily thinking about that I think trez kuzma. Casey p. are their three most tradable assets rate and. Remember when you're making a trade you should always pay attention to the salary you have coming in and the sour you have going out. They need to be within twenty five percent of each other. So for example. You can't bring in twenty five. Million dollar prayed a player in trade him for ten million dollar player. But if you have a ten million dollar player and another ten million dollar player two of them so it's twenty then you could work so yes and any of that can go down tonight this afternoon afternoon. Exactly exactly so. I tweeted if shire's goes to the padres as a dodgers fan. How concerned are you. Here are some of the responses concerned regardless concern. No angry mad. Yes done with twenty twenty one. It's like lander to houston all over again more concerned about the offense. That's interesting more concerned about the offense concerned no angry. I think this is going to be tough to explain dodger. Fans if max scherzer goes to the padras all right one more time. I know we're bouncing around a lot but it's one of those days. Yeah whoa woge. Just tweeted this with mantras. This adrian words nancy from espn. This is me. I'm just reading his tweet. With harrell's opt in lakers are able to move toward completing deal to acquire kings guard buddy healed for kyle kuzma and harrell sources tell espn. So that's woge reporting that that they are moving towards completing deal healed. Would come to the lakers. Coups in harrow would go to sacramento not done. But we'll just reporting. It's it's moving forward so they will potentially and we talked about this earlier in the show kind of a choice. Between damore rosen. Who's a playmaker unrestricted. Free agent potential sign and trade or a three point shooter where they had the rich they shut twenty nine percent in that series against the sun's just disastrous so herald ops in he becomes a tradeable chip and again woge is reporting. That they're moving towards completing a deal to acquire buddy healed for kyle kuzma and mantras herald so. Keep an eye on that. So now we've got two things. We kinda to spinning plates Going right out during the show max. Scherzer from multiple sources is close to being traded to the padres. And now maybe the lakers are acquiring buddy healed. We'll see so. I'm curious from dodger fans since scherzer's right on the brink. It's not over tes not completely done. But since he's right on the brink of becoming a padre inches away is what you imboden says. How concerned are you about the dodgers. I mean all of a sudden. You got max scherzer vision. I actually think and it's not just sherzer. it's adam frazier to the all star. Second baseman from pirates. They got. I think the padres are now. The favorite depending on if the giants are dodgers. Make any more moves as afternoon or actually meantime before one o'clock tomorrow but landing so think about this. They've landed since the dodgers knocked them out last year. They've landed blake. Snell yu darvish. Joe muss grove. Who threw a no hitter this year. Who wasn't on their staff last year. And now max scherzer. Four starting pitchers adam frazier and all star second baseman and they already had fernando to and all those dudes so i think on paper. Don't you think the padres become the team to beat their five and a half back. How many how. Many back of the dodgers are they to back. Two and a half three and a half of the dodgers. The dodgers losing four to nothing in the fifth today and seven so the padres if they played mean it's thursday i don't know if they play or not but they could pick up a game and in your buddy bickford is in there for the dodgers. They'll bickford who do you want to go to. Who do you want on that wall. Bickford rock and the crazy mullet baseball players are allowed to get away with haircuts that nobody else could get away with. Like if i if i fill bickford zehr stairs but as a baseball player. You're like you're allowed to do whatever you want with your hair. You're allowed to mohawk. You're allowed to. I guess i would call that the super mullet that phil buck bickford. Scott think he doesn't cut it. He doesn't get his hair. Yeah no it. Just just completely. Let's go pitchers This is their. This is their jam. This is their thing now. I i wanted to get to something by the way if you're a dodger fan. How concerned are you eight. Seven seven seven ten. Espn about max scherzer. If in fact the deal is completed and he goes to the padres so one thing that came up last night that i thought was interesting and good for us a good for I forget the name of the girl that won the all round at the olympics. Fantastic simone biles. Did not compete. She did and she won but what it came across yesterday. What was the first episode about. Ted ted lasso. About what do you mean what was it. What was it about the added. They added a psychologist sports psychologists to the team because somebody had the y. Word right the yips right and they were very superstitious about even saying it now. I really row. Sa- miles has got had the what's called the twisties which are basically the yips for gymnasts. Right which you can't mess around with. No you can't you mean if you if you are. Yeah i again. We talked about this at length yesterday. But i don't understand the hate for simone biles. yeah i just. Don't i think she deserves sympathy. Okay i wanted to throw this out there too. We'll get your calls here in a minute. I found another origin of expression thing. Okay and this is. It'll cost you an arm and a leg. Do you know the origin of the expression. It'll cost you an arm and a leg. No okay so in the seventeen hundreds. There were no cameras. One image was either sculpted or painted prices changed by painters. Were not based on how many people were to be painted but how many limbs were to be painted arms and legs are limbs therefore painting them would cost the buyer more hence the expression. Okay but it will cost you an arm and a leg hold on. I'm writing this down the list. Yeah we do that here. We do that here. Lynn how you. They finally sniffed out a lie yesterday. Lindsey i think that one is that i think that was sounds like it's legit. Okay good good mathu right now is. It's on the list unless list exactly aright coming up next door. You'll get some of your calls if you're a dodger fan. How concerned are you eight. Seven seven seven to ten. Espn if in fact the deal is completed max. Scherzer to the padres and the dodgers. The this is an arms race in the west. I just read a tweet from from a blue checkmark. That said it's likely that. Jose barrios and craig kimbrel still wind up in the national league west. So they're loading up eight seven seven seven ten. Espn mason ireland seventeen. Espn all right. So couple of thinks her first of all whoa jr now confirming that landry. Shamet who had been linked to the lakers to some degree has been traded to the phoenix suns. Apparently monty williams coached landry. Shamet in philly at some point and really loves the guy. So he's off the board now for the for the lakers. The lakers are working on a deal. That would send kyle kuzina and mantras herald. Who just opt in to sacramento for buddy healed and that gives them a three point. Shooter is what they could have desperately needed this past year in the playoffs and during the regular season. And he's one of the best three point shooters or is we're also keeping track of Max scherzer whether or not he is going to move to the padres. As jim boden said a little while ago on twitter a deal sending max scherzer to the padres is inches away. Inches away But but so far not confirmed not confirmed yet. We have dodger deal in a laker deal. All at the same uh-huh hang on shams. Toronto lakers and wizards are engaged on a trade. That would send russell westbrook to la. Westbrook wants a move elsewhere. He wants to move elsewhere. And the lakers are preferred destination. Ho lakers and wizards engaged on a trade. That would send russell westbrook to the lakers. How exciting is this. That is incredible. Can you imagine russell westbrook what what an entertaining team to watch and finally westbrook with a chance. Since his oklahoma city days a chance to actually win something. He sort of been out of the mix. The last few years at one of the flat out was talented players in the game. John ireland's favorite player in the league to watch the games for the idea of him. Playing for the lakers has got thrill you. I'd i didn't wanna dream about it yet. I can you imagine all of that. Star power by the way google russell. Westbrook anthony davis. They love each other interesting. Yeah he wants that. Deal now into sham. Now he wants to come to the lakers. Wait a minute could. They know they couldn't do both right. I don't know could they get buddy hield and you'd need like one of those cap guys you need your larry coons or your eric pinkus or the guys do that. Could they do both of those deals. What do they have if they do. The buddy he'll drew deal. What do they have left to trade to. It would be a sign and trade involving schreuder shrewd or but it would have to involve more than that. I was raring. Casey p sure sign and trade with casey p that gets you ten plus whatever you get for schreuder. You still need to get to a gigantic number. What's westbrook as is hit forty. Yeah so really tough number to get to. I can't see how they would be able to do the healed trade and the west if if if he could pull that off if pelinka can pull that off just you know. He's genius together. A two weeks ago tweets at us. Can you please explain how we have to trade for demographia. Free agent kenny. Come to the lakers and free agency. If he takes a pay. Cut a tremendous pay-cut louise he would have to come for the mid level exception. Damore about twenty million a year. So the reason you're hearing other player he would sign with the spurs and then be traded for another player. Because the lakers would need to move money. You can't the lakers. Don't have any cap space so they would send players out while i can. You think of the lakers with buddy healed and russ let's dream a little bit. Those two yacht an unbelievable playmaker and you add. This is exactly what they need. They need a playmaker and a three point shooter. Get both in that scenario and you get one of the best playmakers in the game right. So this is what i think. We should do. Keep an eye on the pick. Because both the wizards and the kings would want that pick tracked. But what what's interesting is this would be i. I wouldn't think you just off the top of my head. I can't see a way to do both. I can't see how the money would work. But rod schneider would have to get a really big number in order to get clue. What's what schreuder plus. Acp you get close to thirty. Three's yeah yeah that's it but who gets to the pick. Yeah yeah i would imagine. Washington gets to pick where we're gonna fight. Well we'll we'll find out if this thing's going down. Why don't we go to the phones. Let's go to rich and seal beach richer on seventy. Espn talking some dodgers rich or deal. Yeah what do you think why i. I'm i'm all for the padres. getting him. dodger fans forgotten. We don't need a starting pitcher like that. All our money's pitches like there's always done to waste. We need kimbrell and we need. Maybe chris bryant's maybe boroughs. We do not need max shurer. Okay now wait a minute. Here's here's what i don't think you're thinking about. It's not just that the dodgers wouldn't get him. It's the padres. Would and if the pod if we go into a series with the padres rich your on they can throw blake snell max. Scherzer yu darvish and joe muss grove at us and we don't have dustin may don't have trevor bauer. We don't know about clayton. Kershaw her shop. Bueller and tony goslin. That's what we got that. That's a pretty good starting lineup. If you asked me starting pitching staff i mean. That's what with john. One more question. If impact westbrook deal goes does go down many many years ago. Nineteen seventy four. My wife got russell westbrook senior job. I will call you back and tell you all about that if we get a. Yeah if we get this guy. And i know it's putting the cart before the horse. I cannot tell you how fun this is to watch. yeah. I've met his father many many times with a great guy he is. I've never met whistle. Junior but i met senior and juniors editing like senior. What a great guy. But i am so excited about this and i hope it goes down all right man. Hey how exciting this. This great day to be on the radio man i. I've been saying this all week. I'm like these things have converged all at once. Nba draft tonight major league baseball trade deadline tomorrow. One nba free agency opens monday. Three all during our show and anything can happen at any moment. You just heard about the westbrook report and we still don't have any confirmation on a done deal yet on max scherzer to the first. Here's more from sham's so maybe it's not. Both shams is saying now. The lakers in wizards are discussing trade. That would send coups herald. Casey ep for westbrook the lakers number twenty two pick in the draft could also be in place so i think it would be one or the other so coups herald casey p. and draft. Pick for. Russ yeah you do that deal you do that deal. And then you know what you got. You got a team with. Lebron you gotta team with Russell westbrook you've got a team with a d. And you got a bunch of veterans are going to want to come here and play. What john hollinger doing. He just tweeted as with healed rumored trade. Nothing can happen until trez picks up option. He that happened half an hour ago. John hollander injure wolves reported that half an hour ago. Program oh this is interesting. Go to robert in oxnard. Hey robert you're on seven ten. Espn hi hey how you doing today. Iraq raisman how you doing. I love hearing you guys I got a little tidbit and the origin of quotes for. You can't k- wet so back in the day They used to load fighter. Planes with twenty seven feet. Long belts worth of ammo and they used to go out and they used to come back. They used to Ask them hey. How'd you do so. The fighter pilot would say i gave him the whole nine yards. Good one good one. Yeah i love that stuff. I love that. Thank you robert appreciate that. Why don't we go to eric. Who's just driving just driving somewhere. eric eric. Driving you're on seven ericsson go to rain culver city. Hey ray there yeah. Yeah except. I don't really care about how the dodgers a one game okay. We're we're not getting. i'm sorry man. Yeah you're you're al. We got a bad connection. I am. I'm just something's going to happen during the show. Something's going to happen during the show. You end up. Happening is russell. Westbrook is going to end up on the padres max. Scherzer act sure who the lakers and and russell westbrook to the padres. That would be very disappointing. That would be very disappointing. And i just hope it's not remember that show. He did years ago in twenty eleven. When the lakers. Chris paul and we were coming out of our shoes and then it all turned out to be a fairy tale. David stern blocked it. The deal was actually done in david. Stern blocked it. We actually had confirmation of that particular trade. I think it was. I mean. I think it was as close to a done. Deal could be david. Stern weighed in and said put some on the scale and said nope not doing it. Can you imagine if the if the max scherzer thing reverses course dodgers could sherzer and the lakers get westbrook all before four o'clock. Let's have a pray man. It's crazy right now. it is crazy. It's a good time to be listening. We these deals are done by the way. But they're fun to talk about. Nothing's done nothing's done aright. Hey i want to tell you about the guilty knees by the way coming up for you done a new trailer park where they're getting a little action coming up. Yeah trailer park. Where they're getting a little action plus any moment. A any of these deals could happen. Mason ireland seven ten. Espn good now. So now wall. Just tweeted lakers are near a deal to acquire russell westbrook for kyle kuzma mantras herrell kentavious caldwell-pope. And they're twenty twenty one first round draft pick which will go down tonight that means i assume if the draft pick is included that this thing could get done quick well. He says they're near a deal. I i mean. I all gone down by the way not in these deals. All that's right. They still have the opportunity to match any offer because they will. It's their own player and they could still sign alex caruso. Who's an unrestricted free agent. Because you'd be signing your own player and you've got bird rights so you could wind up keeping both t. And caruso okay. You know what surprises me here. No schreuder you'll this. Would they would. Ritter for rosen schreuder for derosa intruder derosa well. You don't need shooter. Once you get westbrook correct. That's why you go shooter for derozen schreuder for derozen holy mackerel right. Because they still have that chip. Okay so i know it hasn't happened yet but mesa sick of me saying this but i can't. I can't explain to you guys. How fun russell. Westbrook is to watch. He is a human video game. I always used to joke in macy's to make fun of me that he plays one hundred miles an hour with with hair on fire. But may i know this he puts stats up like no other. This dude is a triple double and he'd be on the same team as lebron ad. I would say so westbrook lebron ad or durant harden and kyrie. I would take the laker guys. I would take the laker guys to a as as long as healthy. I would absolutely take the lakers. In that scenario take the lakers in that scenario. So here's russell westbrook's last three seasons all with different teams. Okay yep so. He was with okay. See in twenty eight twenty nine hundred eighteen okay. So in that year he averaged twenty three points. A game eleven rebounds and eleven assists which led the league for the second consecutive year the next year in houston playing with harden twenty-seven a game seven assists eight rebounds last year playing with bradley beal. Twenty two a game. Eleven assists led the league and eleven rebounds three out of the last four years. He has averaged a triple double. He has led the league in assists three out of the last four years and the one year. He didn't do it. Twenty twenty. Lebron led the league in assists and we would have both of them right. The one question and this is actually a good one from bobby. Manning on twitter lakers who form a real big three with westbrook. But where's the spacing. That's a good question because westbrook does not shoot threes. They need they still need to add three point shooting to get the spacing right right could they. I figure out a way to get healed. I don't know could it be shrewder in a sign and trade for he'll know sacramento doesn't link guards they are right. They're loaded irish haliburton. Yeah yeah yeah i mean. It sounds like the healed train may have moved out of the side. Here's mark stein. Triple double king russell. Westbrook is headed to the lakers. Now that the wizards have swooped in ahead of sacramento to take the lakers trade package. Westbrook and national's max scherzer are likely to be traded on the same day thing. It's a big day in washington. Dc sports radio. Yeah really yeah. The numbers all work. Who's mma trez. Casey p. for westbrook. Who's making forty four point. Forty seven either way on your schreuder walk. He's an unrestricted free age. Why not get something for him and get something for him but the other team enough to play ball sure. Well somebody wants dennis schroder you can get some peace for. I don't want any part of especially now makes no sense deaf schreuder. If you're actually going to do this what what was the mark stein tweet. Mark steyn says it. That westwards coming to the lakers. He does so he's is he calling it done. He is a he basically says it's happening. Now here's bobby marks salary implications on a proposed west trade next year. He makes forty four the year after that. It's a forty seven million dollar player option. So what this does for the wizards is kuzma makes thirteen. Casey p makes thirteen. That's twenty six herald makes ten. That's thirty six. They're committed to thirty six million but they would save money on the deal they would send out forty four and taking thirty six man. Would this be fun crazy crazy. I mean and you are racing. we're seeing how. How do you guard a team with lebron. Russ in a d. Aren't they just going to run while you still need to threes. Though i mean it's still illegal you need to bomb threes. I need that. They need to add shooters shooter or multiple shooters. Okay so remember. I did think you somebody just sent out a picture of the three of those guys with gold medals. Yeah i'll play together and team. Usa may there. There are reports out there. And i don't have specific names for you but it's one of the stories. I sent you guys this morning. There are a bunch of free agent veteran guys who want to come to the lakers. Yes i saw that story. Yeah a play with now would be all three of these dudes. I mean it's it's almost unfathomable the amount of starbucks or they'll have three hall of famers on the same team. This is back to magic or the in korean. No question no question and by all by all signs out there it's happening. Here's a guy named jake fisher who works for bleacher report. Here's what he said. The good news for the lakers is. There's absolutely a large amount of talk from team executives around the league that if the lakers are able to get a big guy they make this home run like russell westbrook. There's a lot of speculation that seems founded that a lot of veteran type players ready and interested to come sign on minimum deals. And go chase this ring with lebron those guys so who knows who's out there and who would come and jumping around because that's what we're doing today Ken rosenthal in this on the baseball. Front the max scherzer front. What day sources say other teams are still trying to top padres offer for sure zor national nationals. Padres essentially have agreed on players in trade situation may be complicated by scherzer's ability to veto any trade and effectively choose his next club. What if the dodgers could sears. The lakers get westbrook on the same day. That would be insane leading one of the great days in mason in ireland history. Oh this show during the show. Let's do this thing. Let's do this thing. You know what else we're going to do. We will. and you know what we're gonna do. Radio tinder coming up next mason. Ireland seven ten. Espn yeah there's apparently a video or a picture of lindsay jumping off a gigantic rock on instagram. Right excellent sure. Is it Scariest thing i've ever done in my life so far so go. Check it out at lindsey baseball and instagram. All right when he made before you get going let me read one the latest update from loach talking about the westbrook to the lakers trade. Which is not done yet. Note is in the works. Here's wedges tweet. From thirty seconds ago this is a trade. Washington wants to make with bradley beal in mind. Creating some salary-cap flexibility for the future to add talent around him. The idea of returning to his los angeles roots is appealing to westbrook. So let's who went to losing your high and went to. Ucla could be playing in his hometown and mace. Here's jeff passan another ball in the air. The los angeles dodgers are finalizing a deal to acquire left-handed danny duffy from the royals. So that's happening. According to jeff passan okay. So they're starting with a. Let's see. Danny i i. I don't know danny duffy off the top of my head. Let's let's look and see what what you say. Do you know. I mean we've never been great pitching in the american league indians. But i mean obviously. I haven't seen. He's had a good year. Not but we can react to that after radio. Generate dodgers acquired. Danny duffy from the twins. He's four and three with a two fifty one. Era in sixty one innings. This year has started twelve games so There is a starter for the dodgers danny duffy from the akc royals so fresh off an nba championship and mvp jaanus. Untended kupu is young and super-rich but that doesn't mean he wants to pay money for things that should be free earlier this week. Yanni's wanted to know how to watch team. Usa basketball sending out a tweet looking for some guidance and his followers broke the news to him and he'd have pay to subscribe to peacock his response. Was if i got to pay never mind you guys paying for peacock just to watch the olympics white bluster. Swipe right it's so funny you bring this up. I just paid for two days ago. It's four ninety five five dollars a month. Because i wanted to watch naomi osaka who i couldn't find anywhere else so i paid the five dollars. Mace it is so hard to navigate. It is where these things are. I think i'm going to. I'm going to go back on it take it. I can't find stupid it. Ticking me off. I think liz you had the same experience. Yea came home from you. Know not having barely any cell service or internet and i wanted to watch the olympics and kip on things and i was flipping around trying just looking for on the tokyo olympics. And it's all these different channels and some my mom hasn't she doesn't then you have peacock it's like there's no good comprehensive list of where what channels you can watch. What things aren't stupid. yeah. I'm having trouble a navigating with peacock and i guess they're putting a lot of the good stuff on peacock and i don't. Is it an app on the tv. What is it. I'm tired of the streaming. Services are too many i get an. I guess they're getting a lot of new subscribers because of the olympics. But it's it's. I'm not going to be one of them. I'm not going to be one of them. it's it's too complicated. It's too complex. My strategy is if i'm watching the olympics watch channel four. I assume. I won't miss anything if i watched channel. Four were to rico. Is doing the anchoring. But beyond that. I not venturing onto usa network. And all these other places. And i'm not paying for peacock. Will they be smart to do is to offer it for free at first. But you know that's neither here nor there all right next one. Mcdonald's just announced the next famous orders meal collaboration with tick-tock famous hip hop star so weedy beginning august ninth. Mcdonald's customers in the can have the so weedy meal a big mac four piece chicken mcnuggets. Medium fries in a medium sprite tangy barbecue sauce and so weedy and sour sauce. Which is mcdonald's regular sweet and sour sauce. Renamed for the promotion the meal will be served in special packaging that reflects so weedy style. Mcdonald's has had major success with the travis scott and bts meals. Is there a celebrity. That would make you guys personally head to mcdonald's because you wanted to buy their their endorsed meal that's interesting. Yeah the travis. Scott meal has done really well. The j galvin meal is done really well. How about I will sign up. If it is the taylor swift meal which would contain what it would contain a. It has to be light right. It's got to be light so it'd be like a a quarter pounder a small fries and a diet coke. I would not do. It sounds exciting. I've outgrown mcdonald's. I just don't come on mcdonald's. Great man i just don't go there anymore Get stoned go face down in a bag of mcdonald's. There's nothing better than you don't even get this for an ice cream calling or mcflurry once in a while or coffee. Good iced coffee. The mcclure machine's always broken thing. Yeah i went out today. And i asked him if learn this. Oh it's broken. i'm like come on. it's three in the afternoon or whatever. It was lebron meal. Oh talking sports meals would be great like they used to do. Michael jordan ones all the time. Yeah all obviously very very Bob nightingale says dodgers still trying to acquire max scherzer from the nats. Good yes so. It's not it's not dead friedman lind's next so a woman does not want her son to propose with her mother's wedding ring she explained. Why on it's i the a hole for them quote. My son wants to use my mom's rain to propose to his girlfriend. I told him. I won't let him use the ring for the engagement. Only the wedding and only after she signed a legal agreement saying the ring is to be returned to the family in the event of a divorce. My son is furious because he says having that agreement makes it look like they think they're gonna divorce. I admit i think there's a good chance of that. They broken up before and got back together again and they get into massive fights at least once a month so while the mother doesn't oppose her son's marriage she does want to protect the fairly heirloom. Is the mom the whole swipe left or swipe break. I know they say it's her mom's ring right yes. It's down to her from her. I think she has a saying this. I don't think she's in a whole masive. She doesn't want to give up your mom's ring. I think that that's her choice. Her prerogative no think what it's doing is it's not. It's giving a vote of no confidence to this marriage that our son is jumping in to give him the ring. This is the idea of an heirloom. Is you pass it down to the next generation and this woman. She may have doubts. That relationship could be permanent. They could be together forever and the ring makes perfect sense now. The question is if divorce. Does she get the ring back. And i would argue that. The bride probably would not do that. I think most most. What's the word respectable women in the event of a divorce. They would give the ring back if it were a family heirloom. So i think that's one of those. You know whatever baby. If samaras was at work she would give it back. I would think so because it's comes from the family but the fact that the mom wants her to sign a piece of paper saying that. I think that's super tacky. We i do too. I do too. Yeah you can ask somebody to signed an agree. I just. I would hope that if the marriage says a workout. I hope it does. I hope it worked but if it doesn't work out. I think the the girls should return the ring to the family. For that kids next marriage he could be passed from girl to girl girl girl for the rest of that guy's life. Yeah exactly all right. So since i can tell. You guys are totally enthralled with radio tinder. today i'll do one more year. Research at high ended up very unusual day. I understand but you know there's always time for radio tinder. So researchers at the university of vienna discovered that dogs can in certain cases. Now when people are lying. The scientists carried out of study with hundreds of dogs to determine what extent dogs could spot deception. I'm gonna. I'm gonna only yesterday. We just did this story yesterday. Sorry about that. No okay well. What was your question at the end of it. The question was. Do you believe that dogs can tell whether or not you're lying. Do you have a yeah. My question is do you think that you can detect lies better than your dog. Iming have been pretty bad. It's macy's lies actually on the dog. Dogs are very intuitive. You know they're judging there they look at you and they you've got thousands of little gestures and movements and they read all of them. Dogs are dogs are so much smarter than we than we think they are. So i think the dog is probably better at sniffing ally than a person. Although i'll tell you i'm pretty good at sniffing out lives if ireland was doing lie the day. I think i would figure it out. Oh let's switch it up then yeah. Let's switch a week where i do it. Okay i see how you could do or we should alternate. We should alternate on tuesday. It is yeah to do lies. I'll do it tomorrow. Okay good good okay. Something good came out of doing the same story yesterday right. That's right all right lenses that it got one more. No that'd be afraid today. Some breaking news going have cavs just traded for ricky rubio. Lindsey got him coming. Great dodgers trade for danny from the royals. He's waving his ten five rights huge lakers fan and right now. He's too busy trying to figure out if they're getting west per healed but he will be approving the trade. According to bill plunkett tweeted this out. Danny duffy is currently on the injured list with flexor strain but expected to return. He has no trade protection long starter. He could wind up pitching in high leverage multi inning relief spots for the dodgers. Duffy is a free agent this winter. So who does that. Sound like pitching in high leverage multi inning relief spot. He may be this year's. Julio it could be hope so yeah yeah so danny. Duffy is the first acquisition for the dodgers. And they are not done. They're not done in. The lakers are Just getting started crazy all right so we will keep you up to date on absolutely all of it as we get through the afternoon. I hope something breaks during our show. That would be awesome. It'd be it'd be awesome if if it happened before we left the it'd be reminiscent john of the day chris. Paul was traded and then later on untraded to the to the dodgers to the lakers. A few years back mason ireland seven ten espn.

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