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The Dan Patrick Show
"scott roland" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"Good morning. Good morning, just a quick thing about the Pro Bowl. I've never used that word athlete. I've never seen so many quote unquote athletes look so unathletic. I kind of throw a Dodge ball or use a golf club. They were horrible. Yeah, but that's not what they do for a living. I think that was the fun part of it is to see them do something that they don't normally do. But you know, I'm not that harsh of a judge when it comes to that. And it was very easy to just say, I'm not going to watch it. But I think there was something there. And I think it was for the younger audience, and they probably looked at this. I don't think the ratings were very good, but, you know, maybe it grows, maybe they add more things to it. Let's see. Who else do we have here? Patrick in Houston, or if it's fritzi says H town. Or Hugh town. Chrissy, nobody says a town, but you people. All right. No, just for you. Man, I'm Brennan spread and Houston, nobody says it. My call was about Scott rolling is in the hall of fame and Fernando valenzuela is not. Really? I think it's a fair point. Yeah. I do. Steve Garvey's not in there. And I could make a case Steve Garvey is every bit the player that Scott Roland was, but the problem that happens with this Patrick is we end up then denigrating Scott Roland and because then we go, well, why is he in there? Why not this guy? He's still got there. He was a very good player. He a Hall of Famer? No, he's not. But I do think that because he was voted in, then you have to treat him as such. You know, once you're in, you're in. The lead up to that, that's where guys should have done their work a little bit more. Scott Rowland is a very good player. But I don't know anybody who said, you know, Phillies are in town. I got to go see Scott Roland. This day in sports history pond. 1926, the NFL adopted a rule that made players ineligible for competition until their college GRAS class graduated, so you had to be a senior. 1932, dog sled racing happened in the Olympics for the first time. I'm not going to bring that back, I don't think. And in 1978, the envy expanded to 18 teams, they added buffalo Cleveland, Houston, and Portland. Man, I love that buffalo squad. Love them. Mcadoo? Bob mcadoo, they had Ernie de gregorio,
Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"scott roland" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"With Paul and bikinis coming up and just drives me crazy where we are, Sarah, with the voting. What do you mean, what drives you crazy about it? All of the shifting standards for what it means to be a Hall of Famer, which I don't think is good. I think we're guessing more and more, you know, every year we have the votes and the logic pretzel that the writers go through in making their choices. I don't understand, you know, Paul himbo and I are going to dive into that. And talk about where the fault lines are and there are many. It's like every year they just add more fault lines. And today, as you reference Taylor, we're also going to be talking about a couple of general talking with a couple of general managers who are taking their shot, which I love. You know, we talk a lot about on the podcast about tanking teams, front offices, designing failure. Well, today we'll be talking with Kim ang, the general manager of the Marlins who's using the resources she has to try to contend in one of baseball's toughest divisions and also Perry menacing, the general manager of the angels who's done a great job turning over the pitching staff there. Speaking of Kim earlier in the last week, she completed a trade with the Minnesota Twins acquiring all star Luis arise who is great at making contact. He's a good offensive player. Pablo Lopez goes to the twins. Angel's owner Artie Moreno announced earlier this week that he's no longer exploring a sale of the angels, we're going to talk to Perry about that and about what that means for him and we're going to be talking about Shohei Ohtani and where they stand in the contract negotiations. The Kansas City Royals agreed to terms with the role this Chapman on a one year deal $3.75 million. Some news about Mike Clevenger, the pitcher who signed a contract this off season with Chicago White Sox is under investigation by Major League Baseball for violating MLB's domestic violence policy. The league's investigation stems from allegations made by a woman, a Libya fine stead who accused the pitcher of physical and emotional abuse toward his three children and their two mothers herself included, Feinstein has been in touch with MLB, investigators since last summer, according to the athletic, but mentioned her allegations in a series of Instagram stories on Tuesday. Good news for the manager, Terry Francona, the guardians skipper, got news that he's stolen scooter has been returned. I texted with Tito this morning. He said that the scooter came back in fine shape. And as we talked about at the top of the show, Scott Roland elected to the baseball Hall of Fame. He was a 7 time all star, an 8 time gold glove winner in the last 17 seasons. He was named on 76.3% of the ballots, this is the moment when Scott Roland got the call. What
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"And someone on Reddit noticed that if you typed in rolling Scott at the end, you got a message that said you are not authorized to access this page, whereas if you typed in other candidates who, as we know now, did not get in, you got a page not found error, which was certainly suggestive that that page existed and was built and was just not publicly accessible yet. So that was kind of a tip off. And there was a similar incident, I think it was 7 years ago with Ken griffey junior and Mike Piazza, not that there was think that that is correct. Yeah, not a lot of suspense about Ken griffey. Junior getting in. But nonetheless, there was a similar sort of spoiler posted then because if you typed in their URL, it went from the page could not be found to you can't access this page, you know, which is sort of a tell. So that's a music. They should probably figure this out, right? Because if they want to keep the suspense and I know not most people who are watching the ballot reveal on MLB network and following these things are on the baseball subreddit, but still, there's probably a way you could camouflage that, I would imagine. Yeah, one would think. Now, one would also maybe think that you could, you know, cast a ballot, electronically. And as a B BWA member, I shouldn't be casting stones at the Hall of Fame's glass house because I still have to write a paper check for my deuce. Yeah, me too. Yeah. Those checks are like three addresses ago, by the way. This will work. You don't have to update them. It doesn't matter. Yeah, it's like one of the, I don't know, two or three checks I write per year if that, like I have to remind myself, how do I write a check again, right? Right. Every time I said the PBW. So yeah, we have not joined the millennium. No, we are all of us struggling to catch up in our own ways. But yeah, I would hope that someone has pointed out to the hall that this remains an issue because like yesterday, they probably didn't know about it until afterward because they were busy, you know, getting ready to name a Hall of Famer. So yeah. I actually, I wondered because, as you said, I didn't vote. I have discussed my reservations with the process before at some length, so I won't rehash that here, but I just did not submit a ballot, did not submit a blank ballot, just did not submit about big difference, but I wondered because I got a couple of calls from the hall in the days leading up to the announcement. Just making sure that my ballot hadn't been lost or that I hadn't tried to submit one, which I don't recall happening last year. And so I was thinking, I wonder whether they realized that no one got in, they got skunked again, and now they're like calling around to make sure they didn't lose a ballot somewhere that would get someone in. Like maybe it would just be I was worried. It's like, uh oh, is this going to come down to one vote or am I mentioned going to be bad? There are people going to be mad at me because I was the one who didn't give Scott Roland the one vote he needed. As it turns out, as Jay will mention, one voter's ballot apparently was lost in the mail. So maybe they were calling around because once that happened, they wanted to make sure that it didn't happen to anyone else. But yes, that was making me curious before the results were announced. Anyway, congrats to Scott Rowland and we'll talk about everyone else who came close and put themselves in position to get in in one of these years. I saw an argument. I wonder whether you find this persuasive because we'll talk a little bit about this with Jay but not in depth Billy Wagner was one of the players who took a significant leap and now looks like he is poised to get in and one of the next few years and armor of saber who's been on the show he tweeted there was never a moment during Billy Wagner's career when I wouldn't have happily traded him for Andy Pettit and Andy Pettitte did not get nearly the same level of support and has not seen the same sort of growth. And Jonathan Bernstein pointed out on Twitter also their salary histories would seem to support that, you know, baseball people at the time were willing to pay more for the services of Andy Pettit than Billy Wagner and same for Cy Young voters, for instance, so in that sense Hall of Fame voters are sort of out of step with how those players were perceived at the time. Now we were just talking about the fact that perceptions can evolve and that can be a good thing. And I know Pettit has the HDH of thing on his record. So substitute Mark Burley or Tim Hudson or some other comparable starter who has recently been eligible for that and Wagner his way outstrip them. And I guess this comes down to the fact that people now are looking at starter and reliever at just separate positions and Wagner was incredibly dominant as a reliever more so than Pettit was as a starter even, although had it certainly has a cooperstown case in his own right. And so people are just saying, well, there are relievers in and so if we're putting relievers in, then Wagner compares favorably to some of the guys who are already in and he was just so good at his job despite the job being more limited that he should be in. But what do you make of that argument? So I tend to take the following approach to the hall. And I reserve the right to change this approach as my own ballot approaches. But I tend to take what I might call a like a Noah's ark approach to the Hall of Fame. I think that there should be, well, it doesn't necessarily have to be too. You can have more or less not a lot less, but less. I understand that it is a kind of picture. But I think that it is a distinct kind. I actually think that the argument for including relievers is more persuasive for past generations of maybe than current ones where the line continues to blur between starter and reliever, but I think that it is a position. And so the best of the guys at that position should be in the hall, just like I think that the best DH should be in the hall. And yes, names out of your Martinez. That's a little not to you, Boston fans out there. Sound off in the comments. It's great. It's fine. They're both Hall of Famers. It doesn't matter anymore, you know? Here's the thing. It doesn't matter. It's fun. Everybody's happy, you know? Everyone got what they wanted. Including me. So I appreciate the argument that is being made that if you were good enough to be a starter, you just would probably be a starter in most cases and that relievers are failed starters in some respect. I think that that tends to smooth over and not do justice to how players have actually worked particularly now, but I appreciate the argument that if you could go a few more innings and reliably get through an order more times you'd just be a starter. I get it, but I also think that we have relievers. And so the best of them should be in there and they do generate value for their teams. They can create sort of a sense of psychological security on the part of their fans. And I think that it's interesting.
The Dan Patrick Show
"scott roland" Discussed on The Dan Patrick Show
"They're not, they don't match that fame part of it. Justin Verlander, okay, he sort of had star power, has it because of his wife. I mean, great pitcher. Nobody talked about him in Detroit. And be like, oh, he's going to the Astros. Oh, he got better. And then, you know, he was on display in the postseason. Max Scherzer, as much as I loved watching him pitch, I'm one of the few people probably one in the GC market who's watching the nationals when he's pitching. Clayton Kershaw, wonderful pitcher Hall of Fame pitcher, he got to the postseason, but star power, I remember there'd be guys where you go, that guy got to go see. Vita blue. Vital blue pitch for the Oakland a's. And I had to go see him. Nolan Ryan, Tom Seaver. There were guys that you wanted to go see because you had heard about them. That was like Tom terrific. I'm going to go watch him. You know, Mookie betts, I love him. But he's not star power household name. And it felt like he was when he was with the Red Sox, not so much with the Dodgers, and he's a great player. Baseball lacks, you know, there's a lot of guys in the NBA that you know. Well, they may not be great players, but you do know them, or you know them a little bit more than you probably should. They're not as good as their profile on social media, but they draw attention there. Baseball lacks that. And therefore, Scott Rowland's not a star. Really good numbers. Is Scott Roland better than Don Mattingly? Is Scott Roland better than Dale Murphy. Now those guys had star power. Scott Rowland was just a good ball player. Is he a Hall of Fame ball player? And I start to look at the names next year. Chase Utley? Good ball player. 6 time all star. Joe mauer, Joe mauer is a Hall of Famer. He won what three
The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on The BOB & TOM Show Free Podcast
"Arty. Happy birthday to me. Thank you for watching. Hey, where am I? I think I'm in the minority of the people that you're not hate. Sweet Carolina. Oh, really? Yeah. Did he do that live that long ago? You don't like fun sing along someone? No, it's just that I don't like about it. That was the thing that was associated with a particular place and now everybody has to do it. It's like, it's like the team mascots, if one has one then they all have the identical one, and there's no, it's got to be original. It looks like the generic team names like the guardians are the commanders. The powerful. We do have we do have guardians news coming up today. It's actually pretty funny. We will protect and God, okay. Very good. Oh, I did see that. Speaking of baseball? Yes, sir. You want to do that? Sure, where you going? Third baseman Scott Roland, of course, known by his nickname rockin. Yep. He's been elected. To the baseball Hall of Fame, all his career, Tom. Here comes The Rock. They'd say. No idea. Yeah, they would. Rocking. On his Hall of Fame plaque. It says Scott perenne rocking. Absolutely. He is a hell of a player deserves to be in there. Well, I don't know. Yes. Let's see. Let's see the evidence here. 7 time all star, 8 time gold glove winner. Yeah, maybe he's Kelsey. You would have voted for. 76.3% of the votes, and of course, notable bio mission, no Barry Bonds, no Roger Clemens, no couple other guys who Pete Rose. So on the juice. Oh, he wasn't on the Jews, but he's on the take. Right now. A couple years away from having actual gambling boots at all the stadiums. What do you say? No, there is a gambling kiosk at red park or whatever. Didn't Pedro's make the first bet. I thought it was like a promotional thing, yeah. You know it's been long enough. Why can't we? Yeah, no. You can't give them even just a little corner that says, hey, he would normally be in here. Right. You know what they should do? Bring Paul Giamatti to a game and tell him he's in the Hall of Fame. Because his father, Bart Bart was his dad, staying the game. Remember that? Like a shirt.
Schlereth and Evans
"scott roland" Discussed on Schlereth and Evans
"Be honest. With you. This is a potential earworm song. I'm not gonna lie. Well, happy birthday to march. By the way, birthday boy. About the same age. Thank you, Johnny. George Carl, wishing you a happy birthday? You know that this what's significant about this day is this is the start of our 7th year. That is correct. So we started on your birthday. Damn my birthday. 2000 16. Yep. Yep, right after the right after the AFC championship game. In which you literally the day before had predicted the Broncos to lose to the Patriots. And you started our first show ever. Apologizing to Broncos country and crafting an apology. I'm wondering, and we devising a way to get back into their good graces, which you have done. Yes. Many times we had to devise I started writing Nepal. It said dear Broncos country. I remember like it was yesterday. That was the whole thing started. It took me a while, but I'm sorry. Finally, finally got I'm sorry apology out there. Well, happy birthday. Buddy. All right. So somebody adjusted this, this mic is riding high. It's the sandy clough, Mike. Yeah. This thing is chickaboo. This thing is well medicated. It's got a mind of its own. Hey, morningwood. Wild day yesterday. A lot happening. Where to start, where to start, where to start. Okay, avalanche one last night. Three to two, 6 in a row. 6 in a row. You got a video challenge. That's right. Darcy Kemper and Nicholas obey kubel were both back with the caps. And so they did a dual, you know what's better than a video tribute? A dual video tribute. And then Darcy Kemper didn't see a couple of pucks, which was. Which was appropriate. And Rikers like, I don't think you saw that. Hey, what's new? Oh, so the avalanche get the win. They keep rolling. The nuggets blow a fourth quarter lead, but no worries. Nikola Jokić on a nice dish from Jamal Murray puts up a little floater in the lane, puts the nuggets back up by 16 seconds left. They hold on defensively and they beat the pelicans 99 98. As we already look ahead to the playoffs, I can't wait for the blast and these big time games that I expect the nuggets to be playing in the playoffs. Where do you come down on the whole, it's the last shot, the game's on the line, are you somebody who believes, in this case, Nikola Jokić has to take the shot, no matter what. You've got Jordan always took the shot. Well, not always. I shouldn't say they're not always Steve Kerr and paxson. John Paxton took one. But Kobe would always try to take the game winner. LeBron caught criticism because a lot of times he'd give up. The shot to somebody else, where do you come down on it? I mean, if you're getting if you're like a side out and you're getting denied the ball and somebody, occasionally, you got a bunch of other guys make a max contract. You'd like you'd like your superstar to take the shot if you can. Because you get good position and ultimately you knock down a lot of shots, but that dude can't always take the last shot. I don't know. I think he can. Because of his ability to post up, go outside, handle, and the way that he and Jamal Murray work off each other. I just don't think that there's any reason why you will not be able to get him into a position to take the last second shot. Or the game winning shot game tie in shot. I don't want anybody else but him taking it. Yeah, well, he would be he would be obviously he'd be the preference. I mean, that's the guy you want taking the shot, but you probably can't always. I don't know. I just think it'll be really difficult for teams to just say, all right, listen, we're going to just send two guys at jokic and just make somebody else beat him because he's so good passing and seeing the court that you run the risk of the nuggets just diving a guy to the hoop and he's wide open for that. He's not taking the last shot. Wow. And if you're telling me you can get a wide open contested layout. Okay, so I'm telling you. Well, no, because I'm telling you, I don't think teams are going to do that. So I think they're going to be leaving one on one. I think they understand that he's going to be tough to double. Yeah, well, that's what makes him that's what makes him the MVP. He is going to win the MVP. Sorry, by the way. He's going to win the end. By the way, both when I left Fox on Friday. Both Nick Wright and Broussard, both of them said, begrudgingly, did he win another piece when I started MVP? Yes. No, that's a big twist there because you said earlier in the week they said that acknowledge he should win it, but they said the voters won't vote for him because they'd pull not a Stockton. What's the other dude? Steve Nash, the police now. Yeah. Two in a row and didn't win a championship. They said, well, we're not going to vote for him. Right. But they're just like, dude, at the end of the day, they're like, this is supposed to be it's a regular season award, but they've never gone three in a row without a guy without a championship, and they're just like, they both admitted. It's going to change this year. They're going to vote him in for three in a row. Yep. I don't think it's going to be close. I don't even think it's going to be close. What do you do yesterday? What do you do last time? The triple double home. Seriously. It is whole hum. He was, he was, I think, a half a half of an assist away from averaging a triple double going into the going in. I don't know if it was going in the last night or a couple of games. The games ago. But he missed a couple games. True. Let me check that to see where he's at. Is he averaging a triple double thank you, Johnny? Nice, Johnny. Sausage fingers activate? Form of, he's still at 9.99 .999. Just get it to ten. There's no way you can't give him the MVP if he averages a triple double for the season. There's no way. No, plus they finished with the best record in the west or best record in the NBA. No, no wait, no way you can. Todd helton. He taught Elton had a sleepless night last night, knowing that you were 11 votes. 11 vote shot. The good news is the way that Troy rank on his 7 45 and he'll help walk us through the just maze that is baseball Hall of Fame voting. But I don't think a player has ever gotten to this level of percentage of votes. This close to the 75% needed and not got in. Right. So what is that? Like 71% of 73.2 or something like that. You need to get 70 Scott Roland was the only one to get in. But the expectation is he will get in next year, but I get it. That leads to the whole wait a minute. You're telling me he's not a Hall of Famer this year, but he's a Hall of Famer next year. Right. Well, what's changed? Either Hall of Fame or he's not. Doesn't work that way. It's just goofy that way. As Billy as Billy Wagner in, no, but he got what? I think he got 68? Billy Wagner has like 400 saves. Lizzie whitener was. Reluctant to put. No, I'm not gonna do that. Johnny. No.
Northwest Newsradio
"scott roland" Discussed on Northwest Newsradio
"Then eventually completely suspend any licenses or permits with regard to the operating of that bar. Tuesday, three of the four suspects appeared in court, the judges said bond for all three. The 17 year old is being held in juvenile jail, court appearance next month. I'm Katie Clark. A tornado that touched down outside Houston left what local leaders are calling catastrophic damage behind correspondent Clayton Neville has the latest. The twister that tore through Pasadena and deer park Texas left flipped over 18 wheelers and stranded motorists in its wake. No major injuries reported but the damage widespread with trees and power lines down nearly 90,000 people lost power in the storm, but deer pork mayor Jerry mutton said the cleanups already started. Within a few minutes, I walked out of my own house and the neighbors were walking up and down, checking on each other and removing debris from the street, you know, just that's dear part. School in deer parks canceled today is recovery continues, damage assessment does too, about 60 residents of a local nursing home where evacuated after significant damage was found to the building. I am Clayton Neville. 12 till now in America in the morning in California, investigations continue into the mass shootings in a Los Angeles suburb and another south of San Francisco, and bullets flew at a gas station in Oakland, just hours after a gunman killed 7 people in half moon bay. Correspondent Jennifer King is following the story. A shootout at a Valero station on Oakland's Macarthur boulevard killed one person and wounded at least 7 others responding officers with the Oakland police department found shell casings, but no victims at the scene. Several victims were learned to be in stable condition after taking themselves to local hospitals for gunshot wounds, but one person died, no arrests have been made. The incident happened just a few hours after another deadly shooting Monday in the San Francisco Bay Area, where a gunman killed 7 people at two locations near the coastal community of half moon bay, 67 year old Chun Li zhao was arrested in that shooting. I'm Jennifer King. In Yakima, Washington, a man walked into a gas station convenience store and opened fire killing three people. The shooter was later found with a self inflicted gunshot wound police say they have no apparent motive in that shooting. A gynecologist who molested some of his patients during a decades long career has been convicted of federal sex trafficking charges, correspondent Julie Walker reports. It took him Manhattan federal court jury less than a day to return its verdict against Robert haddon after 9 former patients testified about how the gynecologist they once trusted attacked them sexually when they were most vulnerable. Haddon's lawyers admitted their 64 year old client had sexually abused patients, but they said his guilty plea to charges in state court 7 years ago put those crimes behind him. Prosecutors said federal charges were appropriate because had an enticed women to cross state lines so he could attack them, among those who went public with abuse charges were Evelyn Yang, the wife of former presidential candidate Andrew Yang. Julie Walker, New York. Not until let's shift gears with Robert workman and morning sports this Wednesday. 7 time all star third baseman Scott Roland was voted into baseball's Hall of Fame last night, the 8 time gold Glover, making it on his 6th try on the baseball writers ballot. Former rocky slugger Todd Hilton missed by 11 votes of getting in. Billy Wagner Andrew Jones and Gary Sheffield were each named on more than half of the 389 ballots. Roland will join Frederick Griff in cooperstown in July. At the Australian open, the women's semifinals are set Victoria Azarenka ousted the last American hope three C Jessica bagula in straight sets for her first spot in the final four down under since winning the thing back to back in 2012 and 2013. She'll face reigning Wimbledon champion Elena RoboCop. In the other semi early Thursday morning hour time, 5 seed arena sabalenka meets unseated Magdalene of Poland. NHL the bruins beat the Canadians for two on late goals by Patrice bergeron and David pastrnak. Every time you're going to play Montreal
Northwest Newsradio
"scott roland" Discussed on Northwest Newsradio
"Event. That's not present here. Martinez family lawyer Becky Rowe argues WSU long new freshman pledges were a very high risk group and that there were previous issues with the ATO house. They have the book on ATO and they simply refused to throw the book at ATL. The judges will now consider the arguments an issue a ruling in the near future. Ryan Harris, northwest news radio. Governor Jay inslee took his case to lawmakers to add abortion rights to the state constitution, the governor says it's a decision best left to women and their doctors. I respect all legislators in the state legislature. But no matter how intelligent they are or how wise they are or how gifted they are, I do not believe any legislator has the right to order any woman in the state of Washington to undergo a forced pregnancy. In addition to arguments against the taking of a life opponents argue the amendment is not necessary because the protections have been in state law unchanged for 30 years. It takes a two thirds vote of both houses and a simple majority vote of the people to amend the state constitution. State lawmakers are hoping to protect all that help data in your phone that they collect about you. State lawmakers are hoping to protect all that health data your phone collects about you. Democratic state representative bandana slatter has introduced House Bill 1155, which would allow the user to control how that data is shared. She says the need is particularly urgent after the Supreme Court overturned roe versus wade. Pregnant individuals who visit crisis pregnancy centers seeking abortion care can unknowingly have their information shared with anti abortion groups. Republican state representative Jim Walsh says he supports increasing patient privacy, but doesn't think the bill should focus so much on abortion. Time for a bee can plumbing sports update with Bill sports, the sounders leave Seattle rain to train in Spain. Spain's Mediterranean coast with Seattle's major league club is working on fitness and tactics. Coach Brian schmitzer was part of the sounders team, which trained in Spain back in 2010. Tell me to turn I certainly have talked about that trip a lot. And Spain's a soccer country footballing country. And there's a lot of teams that come here to marbella in the wintertime. We're talking about that Dortmund, a bunch of big teams. February 4th, the sounders kick off their 2023 schedule as the first MLS club in the FIFA Club World Cup. The Portland thorns of the national women's soccer league have fired their head athletic trainer Pierre soubrier for distributing a controlled substance to players. Also getting the axe assistant coach Sophie clough for unwanted physical contact with a player. Two former baseball players headed to cooperstown, the baseball writers today gave Fred mcgriff and Scott Roland enough votes to join other greats of the game in the Hall of Fame. And American skiing star Michaela shiffrin has won a record 83rd World Cup race, the giant slalom victory broke a tie on the all
Bloomberg Radio New York
"scott roland" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Barkley. We want to build this team and allocate our resources and that's what it comes down to. So again, he's a good football player. He was durable for the suit and this year. He played well and again, he's a guy that we'd like to have back. Shane was more definitive about the chances of Jones returning giants have learned they'll have the 25th pick of the draft the jets will pick 13. Chiefs coach Andy Reid says he expects Patrick Mahomes to play in Sunday's AFC championship game with Cincinnati despite a high ankle sprain that did not prevent the homes from playing second half last Saturday. Yet the garden rangers made Florida 6 to two pair of goals for Mika's advantage at three assists for Timmy Panera and islanders lost in Toronto 5 to two in the miles of now lost 5 of their own 9 of the last ten. Next tonight try to end a four game losing streak they host Cleveland college hoops, Kansas, defending national champs with 16 and one lost at Baylor Jay awks have lost their last three, duke is just 5 and four in the ACC after a loss at Virginia tech. A couple of Russians into the semifinals of the Australian open catch and I took out the American Sebastian cordona coming off an upset of top CD gestate one again third seeded Jessica has just lost her quarterfinal match with Victoria Azarenka 6 four 6 one. We'll find out today who if anyone gets into the baseball Hall of Fame the filling this could be a shutout, but if anyone has a chance it might be Scott Roland. John stash now we're Bloomberg sports, Nathan. Thank you, John, and Bloomberg sports was brought to you by Audi. Don't let someone else drive off in the Audi model you've always wanted, visit your local tri state Audi dealer to get behind the wheel of yours today or visit Audi offers dot com for more information. Just ahead of potential new flashpoint between the U.S. and China related to the war in Ukraine. First, we have S&P futures down 8 points right now, Dow futures down 56 NASDAQ futures are lower by 36 points. The ten year treasury is up, 5 30 seconds yield, 3.49%. Live from coast to coast from New York to San Francisco, Boston to Washington, D.C., nationwide on Syria's exam, the Bloomberg business app and Bloomberg dot com. This is Bloomberg daybreak. Good morning, I'm Nathan Hague. We're following a
Schlereth and Evans
"scott roland" Discussed on Schlereth and Evans
"In this year? He's going to be right on the number. I voted for him. I'll release my ballot here in a couple of days. They've been busy with Bronco stuff. But I did vote for Todd again. He's right on the number. Mike, this is one of the years you'd love to see him get in because the ballot, it doesn't have a bunch of new first time players that are going to get in. It's just not that kind of balance. You look at Todd helton's candidacy, you look at Scott Roland's canon C these are guys that have a really good chance to get in. And he's been, as you mentioned, he's been trending upward from, I think it was 27 to last year right around 55, 60. So he's right there. He's training on the right direction. I hope he doesn't finish just a little short. That's my concern. Because usually the ballots released are not a complete reflection of the 400 of us, the boat, usually trends a little bit. The other way, the pendulum swings a little, the other way. But he's right there. And he's certainly a Hall of Famer for me. You look at his ten years as a hitter Fielder. I mean, he was one of the toughest outs in baseball. There's a number of reasons Todd should be in. But this could be the year he sneaks in. I would love to see it. I did vote for him. And he is trending even more than I thought. So far, it's going to be right on the number though. You need 75% to get in, and he's right there. All right. We'll see what happens. Troy, thank you very much. They former Bronco fan favorite in the news after performing a heroic act that nearly cost him his life. Details next.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Him. What kind of, I mean, look, I don't want to insult recent work. But like, what kind of person's in person any right? I don't know. Just asking that question. I'm guessing Greg blossom is actually Greg blaster. Probably. It's not an impostor, but right to bring up a little less confident. Anyway, I mentioned that because I got to do an oral history, this is actually the first genuine oral history I've done. I enjoy oral histories I've written fake oral histories, but this was like a real one that I wrote about the SNL sketch baseball dreams come true, which came out 25 years ago today as we're speaking on Tuesday, it aired on December 13th, 1997, and this was the sketch that featured Chris kattan and Will Ferrell and Helen Hunt who was hosting that week and Chris kattan was playing a kid in bed, who just wants to be a baseball player. And then as soon as his mom puts him to bed and leaves the room, a multitude of baseball players just parade out of his closet one after the other and gradually just convince him not to be a baseball player by being so off putting and drunk and loud and smoking and hitting on his mom, et cetera and they're 15 major leaguers in that sketch and I talked to most of them and it turns out that the sketch was actually written by brand name writers Robert carlock and Adam McKay, who have gone on to write and showrun and direct many series and movies that you have heard of. And before that, they combined to write this baseball dreams sketch. And so I got to talk to most of the 8 of the 15 players and I talked to Todd zeal. I talked to the biggest name in the skit is Scott Roland and I did not get to talk to him, but talk to cliff Floyd. David Howard Gregg Jeffries Jeff sero, Mark Waller's Marty cordova, Russ Davis, and tad zeal along with Carla and the agent who put them all together because I had always wondered having seen the sketch like why these players it's like 15 players from ten different teams like all different skill levels and ages and experience levels and I always wondered how did these guys get in the sketch like did they write the sketch that called for 15 baseball players and they were just like let's put the call out any baseball players who happened to be in New York this week just show up on the Saturday live set and we'll put you in a sketch or what? No, it turns out they've actually had a common bond and they were part of the same agency and the sketch was sort of reverse engineered because the agent said, hey, I've got all these baseball players in town this week. You want to rate a sketch for them and they did. So it's kind of a wild story in the players all enjoyed reminiscing about it as did the people involved in the creation. So I'll link to that on the show page, but always fun when you get to remember some guys and then also call them up and talk to them. So people who remember that sketch font, may enjoy the piece. All right, one thing I neglected to mention, by the way, those giant starting pitchers signings were good news for me in the annual free agent contracts over under draft. I took the over on raw stripling on MLB trade rumors predicted 18 million. He got 25, and I took the under on the predicted 52 million for Shawn menia, he got 25 two, so that's a large lump sum added to my total, I am 6 for 6 so far. And to mention two things about two catchers first, if the brewers can help William Contreras improve his defense the way they seem to help Omar valez when he got to Milwaukee, then this could be an even bigger fleecing and second, Meg mentioned soon and his strikeouts among the low strikeout guardians, someone in the stat blast channel of our Discord group for Patreon supporters asked what the greatest share of a team strikeouts over the course of a single season is, and listener Asian brave, who previously conducted the Mike Trout Twitter emoji research, he did a little check and he found that that would be Jimmy Fox who accounted for 119 of 465 Red Sox strikeouts in 1936 that is 25.6%. That seems to be the record since 1914, and the others are also early Vince DiMaggio 1938, and then, of course, the great Gorman Thomas in 1979 and 1980, up around 23% Vince DiMaggio again in 1943, Chet Ross in 1940, dolf chameleon 1941 Reggie Jackson 1982, Gorman Thomas again rob deer, another brewer, Ralph kiner, et cetera. I think when there were fewer strikeouts in general, it was easier for an outlier to make up a higher percentage of team K as in recent seasons, he found Adam Dunn would be the king 2012 White Sox. He was 18.5% of their strikeouts. It's the likely candidates the usual suspects done Chris Davis Mark Reynolds, et cetera might be tough for zeni no to have a really impressive rate though, even on the guardians in this high strikeout era, and as a catcher who's only going to get into so many games and played appearances. Also, the most recent addition of the Bill James handbook has a list of 300 win candidates. They're not many of them. They give Justin Verlander a 29% chance of getting there. The only other pitchers they put on the list are Max Scherzer at 5% Garrett Cole 4% Clayton Kershaw 3% Adam Wainwright 3%, 3% seems too high for those guys in my opinion, certainly for Wainwright, 1% for Zach cranky, less than 1% for Johnny cueto and those are the only pitchers who even make the list. So yeah, not looking great for 300 win candidates. However, looking great for effectively wild secret Santa, I tease this last time and now it is officially open. Zack went close, a listener organizes this every year and he has opened it up again a little later than usual, so everyone get your sign ups in, you can sign up between now and December 21st and then you can send out your secret Santa gift when you were matched at that point. And for those who have not participated before, you just fill in your information, the recommended amount to spend is about 20 bucks and you just send some sort of thoughtful baseball related gift to the person you are matched with and you get one in return. So actually the deadline to sign up is December 20th at 9 p.m. Pacific, so that's midnight eastern on the 21st, and then you'll be matched. You'll be emailed your matches info, and then you send out something that will get to your recipient between Christmas and new year's. And then if you're in the effectively wild Facebook group or Discord group, you can post a picture. So everyone can enjoy the gift you got. It's fun. I participate every year and I've gotten and hopefully given some fun gifts over the years. So please do check it out. There's a post in the Facebook group. I will link to that and also to the entry form on the show page. You don't have to be a U.S. resident to participate. You can sign up from any country Zach makes an effort to
Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"scott roland" Discussed on Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney
"It makes that one voter that day or those four voters that day who released their ballots, the focus of all the heat from all sides. If the ballots all came out at once, then you would see that diffused that would you see that spread and people would there would still be still face criticism, some of it pointed some of it means some of it impolite. And some of it pointed in purposeful and some of it deserved. But it would be more about the interest of that one individual seeking out the multiple voters who maybe they disagree with as opposed to this social media media dogpile that we see on the few every day. I do like what Ryan has done because it allows us to understand the voting process better. We get a global sense of it of trends. I also like the fact that it keeps me honest here to year. Okay, am I saying if this guy's a Hall of Famer in 2019 that I continue to say that he's a Hall of Famer in 2020 unless the limit on the ballot forces me to reconsider it? I like that year to year look that you can get. I also think that maybe it helps change the conversation. You know, I think some of the I can not ignore the fact that what Ryan has done has probably helped some candidates by showing, okay, look, this is the group that's voting for Scott Roland. And other voters who maybe had overlooked Scott Roland or, hey, these are the guys who are voting for Bobby O'Brien. Why is that?.
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"And I don't know that there is an obvious solution there, but I think that as long as we're having to deal with that piece, we maybe need to think really carefully about how easily and comfortably the sort of celebration and the history sit with one another 'cause I think I really do think those exercises might be at odds in a way that is sort of impossible to resolve. So yeah, I don't know what I'll do with future ballots. Future ballots, I would hope. I mean, they almost couldn't have a collection of that characters like this. I would think, probably. And in some ways, I would feel like I was just taking an easy out or something if I just didn't vote this year because it happens to be a particularly thorny collection of characters and then maybe in a future year when there aren't as many guys with those histories, then I just sort of go with it. Maybe I'll change my thinking on this for other reasons, but it is more of a sort of philosophical or ideological stance just about the way the system is set up. And how the instructions are written, then it is just that these guys happen to be on the ballot this year. I'm sure that the fact that the ballot looks like it does this year obviously made me focus on this more and think about it more and means that my ballot would be bare if I actually considered these things and still submitted a ballot there would not be that many boxes checked. So that's definitely brought it to the four, but you're right, it's not going to go away completely and if I'm being consistent, then probably unless something changes with the instructions or the institutions get decoupled as you're saying or who knows maybe this is just taken out of the hints of the writers altogether, which wouldn't bother me. Maybe they're some other kind of committee that weighs these things. Maybe there is some provision for actually accounting for both sides of a player's career so that if you wet him in, it's not just solely the positive accomplishments that anyone sees or remembers they're a lot of different ways that this could go. But really, I don't know that I could change my mind at least if I'm using these consistent standards until something about the process changes, not just about the ballot. So we'll see. Yeah. I think it's a defensible position, Ben. And I will say, I appreciate, I mean, we've just talked about this for almost 40 minutes. So we can't say that we aren't indulging in a little bit of self seriousness. We must be honest about that. But I think that the balance that any voter should try to strike in considering both whether to cast a ballot at all and then which players to vote for if they decide to cast a ballot is to take the process seriously without taking themselves too seriously because there's, I don't want to pick on Tom Brady cheap, but do you remember the video? And then for folks who did not watch the network MLB network announcement of the Hall of Fame results last year, Tom Rudy was in this video that was very we'll call it florid. You know, about the seriousness and the honor of casting a ballad and he's sitting at the desk and he's got a serious face on and I have a lot of respect for Rudy Giza as a me too. As an analyst and a writer and also that was one of the most ridiculous things I've ever watched in my entire life that made me laugh out loud. We overuse lull, but I lulled and then for it to proceed the writer's not electing anyone was just chef's kiss perfect. It was the best bit of theater. It was so funny. And so I think we want to, in this particular way, avoid pulling a Rudy gira. You don't want to seem like you're so serious because at the end of this exercise, the point is supposed to be these incredible players and acknowledging their contribution to the game. And so it should be about them and not us. And I think that writers are part of how we do our work is to be perceptive and to reflect and sometimes we turn that lens inward a little too much. So, you know, I hope folks forgive us when we are a bit self indulgent in that way. But I think that you have taken the exercise sufficiently seriously without being overly self serious. And so I congratulate you for that Ben. And I think your choice is a defensible one, and you didn't, you didn't ding, poor Scott Roland. So I think that you're coming away as clean as one can in the face of a very strange thing. Yep. All right, let's transition to a happier subject. Dreams stories. My name. The big finale. Oh my God. Our fourth and final recap pod. I'll link on the show page to our previous three. I hope some of you have been following along with us here and joined us on this journey, whether contemporaneously or years later. I don't know when you're listening to this, but evergreen content, hopefully, at least this part of the podcast. So we watched this and recommend watching this on Vicky the streaming platform as we have said before. So when we left off last time at the end of episode 12, the PR team leader of dreams had just been dragged off by goons from JSON group the parent company and then we find out he's in trouble for violating a law about giving gifts for favors and he is being audited and this seems entirely trumped up. It is just the latest iteration of the grudge between director Kwan and exiling through manifesting itself and rebounding to some other member of the dreams. Director Kwan says, do you know how underhanded baseball is as a sport? And he says, baseball is the only sport that allows a steel, which I guess there's some truth to that, but you can kind of steal stuff and cheat in every sport. But anyway you can steal it. You can steal in basketball. You can just steal the ball and basketball. So I don't know if that works. But it's very dramatic though. Yeah, so this is punishment for this continued rebelliousness and for the PR team leader not being a mouthpiece of ownership anymore. And vaccine, humbles himself before the director makes picks thanks to bow down to him to ask for this to be transferred to an internal investigation, as opposed to, I guess, a public legal criminal one. Yeah. And Sue says like bands at work are a hindrance to him because he doesn't take direction well. And everywhere he goes, someone close to him gets punished for being associated with him. So now the assistant scout team leader is the new acting president because the old president was transferred to the parent company. You have hanji Hui is transferred to the scout team to replace him, and that's as punishment for protesting the fact that Juan compelled the GM to bow. So the GM begun to say, as usual, he pretends that it's his decision for some reason. And takes the blame for these things, even though, I think, everyone can see through that. So there is one quote from the reporter on the baseball show who says the professional baseball league's new year's resolution to give people hope has already failed, which that's relatable. I'm sure MLB will be in that same boat pretty soon, but yeah, she is referring to a steroid scandal because everything else that could potentially happen on the show has happened. So why not have a steroid scandal here? In episode 13. So there's basically a biogenesis type scandal here, some players got caught trying to buy steroids. They're subject to a 72 game suspension..
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"Been inducted yet and maybe have not even been on a ballot yet, and as things stand, they will have to wait at least ten years to be on a ballot in the 42 for 21 committee is trying to change that and to speed up those cycles, which is a worthy cause I think. So there are new wrinkles at least to the Hall of Fame conversation each time we talk about it. Yep, it's good to have new wrinkles and not just warts. Got dirks. The ballots, though, I haven't been paying the closest attention to the ballots that have been revealed and have been documented by rain Tibet and his team over at the Hall of Fame ballot tracker. But some of the ballots are bad. And I'm not going to single out any individual ballots because they get plenty of attention drawn to them. But I'm constantly struck just it's like every color of the rainbow like every possible ballot you could imagine. Because you would think that they would break down along certain lines and that you could do a taxonomy of Hall of Fame ballots and you could just say, okay, this person is clearly this kind of voter or that kind of voter, and you can tell if it's a small haul voter or a big hall voter or someone who cares about this or that. But sometimes they're just all over the place at least in my opinion where you look at it and it's like, where's the consistency here? You voted for this person and yet not that person and I'm trying to twist myself into some sort of logical not to figure out how that is actually consistent and I don't know that I am like most of the electorate here. I think compared to the average Hall of Fame voter or at least the average person who is eligible to vote for the hall because I haven't decided if I am a voter or not, I think I am more likely than average to pay attention to the advanced stats and war and jaws and to evaluate players through that lens. And less likely to give a lot of credence to the character clause when it comes to cheating and to PEDs and steroid use, but maybe more likely to give weight to the character clause when it comes to other off the field issues and bad behaviors. So I don't know that I map onto most of the voters, all that well, and yet even so it's like, okay, I'm trying to reverse engineer. I'm trying to follow your thought process here and often the people who vote will lay out their thought process at least to some extent in a column, which does not always make it any easier for me to follow. Yeah, again, like you, I don't think we need to call out particular ballots because I find that when people are engaged in attention seeking behavior that refusing to give them attention makes them. Absolutely crazy. So there's that part of it. But yes, I think that this ballot in particular seems to be giving people fits when they're trying to really tread some sort of ideologically consistent or logically consistent line in terms of their ballot makeup. So I don't envy you, Ben. I mean, I think it is a hard needle to thread. But yeah, some of them have been kind of wild. There have been some real wild submissions. So I guess our purposely wild as you're saying and they're effectively wild if your goal is to get attention for your ballot and to have lots of people quote tweeting you, then that has certainly happened. Yeah, when it is like not even like a protest vote, but just like a statement vote kind of I mean, I guess you're entitled to that, the point of having a big voting body is that every individual will have a different way of looking at these things and hopefully you get the wisdom of crowds at the end of it. And I think on the whole, the baseball writers have recently done a decent job at least from some perspectives. I think that there are certainly some ballots that would not look like my ballot if I cast a ballot and yet I get it and I completely understand it and respect it. If you're someone who is just going to completely write off the character clause and just or at least the portions of the character clause that I care more about maybe and just say this is a baseball museum and it's so mandated in purview and it should just be the best baseball players. I get that because I felt that way myself until fairly recently when I just had a hypothetical ballot and would imagine what I would do. It's only fairly recently that I and some others have sort of changed our thinking. And so if that is your thinking, then I completely understand it, and it probably even reflects most people who would care about the Hall of Fame's thinking or most people who would be visiting the Hall of Fame thinking, which is one thing that gives me pause, you know, if I were to exclude some of the best baseball players ever on the grounds of things that had nothing to do with baseball, is that actually serving the purpose of the institution or a baseball fans in general? I don't know, it's more just kind of a gut feeling, not sure that I am personally comfortable honoring or endorsing this person or promoting the celebration of this person basically. But I totally get it if you're just like, oh, this is one of the best baseball players ever. Obviously, why would you even have a Hall of Fame without that player? So that I understand. It's more, I guess, when it comes to the actual player evaluation, differences is where maybe I'm more mystified when you have these ballots where I guess it's often where Scott Rowland is kind of like the reaction to some ballots because there are players who are clearly at least in my mind not as accomplished as Scott Roland and then Scott Roland will be missing or other cases like that where I just think. I don't know, I don't get it. Well, and I think that the ones that enroll in is like a really great example of this. We have seen a couple of ballots that have only had one person on it. I think we've I think we've seen one blank ballot, am I right about that? I don't know. I've lost track. And those really are those are the ones where I you're right. Those voters are within their rights to cast a blank ballot, but it would just like put it in a drawer, man. Turn it in, because I've refused to believe that there isn't anyone on that belt who is Hall of Fame worthy. And if you turn in a blank, it counts as a no. Yes. So it has a real impact like the mechanics of every the Ben, it turns out that the mechanics of elections are really important for the end result. I don't know..
Big Time Baseball
"scott roland" Discussed on Big Time Baseball
"Do, but it was very exciting and obviously Seeger and some of these other players really wanted to get it done. Not wait through the lockout without a deal. And I get that and they ended up with very good deals, most of them got beyond the expectations. So certainly money out there in Major League Baseball. Yeah. I guess that's what we're going to find out when we're the other as it pertains to that. So as we go through this this lockup that's taking place doesn't mean baseball is completely stopped. The Hall of Fame had some new elected members here recently. And John, you kind of caught some flack for your ballot a little bit, man. You want to talk about it a little bit? Yeah, I did catch a lot of flack. I mean, I think the biggest problem is that the 6 best, shall we say our most accomplished players all are linked to steroids. So if you're not in favor of steroids or if you're not if you're opposed to steroids, your ballots not going to look that great to a lot of people because there are a lot of fans and a lot of and some writer, many writers who, at this point are saying it was all part of the era of steroids and let's move past it and just it's easier to vote on a statistics and the achievements. But to me, the guys who did this steroids got themselves more achievements, they got themselves more money and this is an honor. It's not a court of law, and I'm in that group. There are some other writers who are well known who are against the steroids. So I'm generally against the steroids. I've always vote against the steroid guys, at least initially, eventually with Barry Bonds. I finally warmed up after a few years of not voting for him, and I understood and believed the narrative that he did not do steroids until after son Maguire passed him and he did steroids sometime around 2000 and continue to do them. And you could see a clear delineation in his career from an incredibly great player to Babe Ruth plus, you know? It became a different player. So I'm taking the position that he was a Hall of Famer before taking any steroids. He had three MVPs. He had 7 top 5 finishes, but it is weird to vote for him, not for the other steroid guys, particularly clemons, and I get that. I still know Clemens went to Toronto a little bit earlier than I believe bonds to the steroids. It's pretty clear to me that his career, which was said by Dan duke, and we left Boston to be in the twilight, maybe he was wrong. It certainly had something left, but he went from a great picture to the best pitcher in baseball by quite a bit. When he went to Toronto so it's pretty clear earlier he went to the steroids. So that's why I still am not been able to vote for him. I don't vote for any other steroid guides, so I picked the best of the non steroid group and vote for them. I think Scott Roland was a great two way player. We have voted for him Andrew Jones, I think he's one of the greatest outfielders I've ever seen, so I vote any plus he had 400 home runs, plus I vote for him. Kent, Jeff Kent, I think he was a an impact player on outfits. I vote for him. And Curt Schilling, I hold my nose and I vote for him because I don't do it on personality. I know people say it and vote for Albert bell because the personality or that it's not about personal and nothing to do with personality. I mean, Kent and bonds didn't have winning person. It's nothing to do with personal. I don't have any time I can say that. Never had. Nobody believes it. You know, captain bonds were not both. I vote for them. I did not get along with it all. Before, even when he was playing, now he's had some bizarre opinions, but I put that inside, and I say, you know what? He had a great impact on the game. You know, I like the guy or not. He's a Hall of Famer. So that's how I came up with those 5 bonds rolling. Kent and chilling. The tough ballot. There are a lot of guys on there that just close very close and I may go and vote for the next year, including Wagner Hilton, Rollins and hunter. There are some other guys pretty darn good careers too. This girl Abreu Hudson in that category shera. Leave it put Lindsay, 'cause I mean, I like a guy who had major impact, even if he didn't have the length, so I would consider him, but you know I got flak and I understand there are people who look at it consistency voting for bonds and not the other steroid guys, but you know I look at inconsistencies because I can see the balance now and the opinions coming in, we'll see how it goes. But you know nobody votes for Sosa, he was reported to have failed that survey test in 2003, he gets very few votes enough to stay on the ballot and got all this wave of support and I got so much flak for not including Ortiz and I didn't vote for bonds the first year he was on either. So, you know, I'm very tough on the steroids. I eventually got swayed on bonds that he was a whole Famer before. He took the steroids, but I don't see the difference between myself or teens. And so so to me, they're both on their achievements clearly above the line. They're clearly Hall of Famers based on what they did in their careers, but to me they're equally linked to steroids, but we're going to see social get whatever ten or 15% of the vote and we're going to see Ortiz may even get in, but he's certainly going to get more than 50% based on what I see out there. Now you play the game. You may have a different opinion. I understand if someone is okay with the steroids, I get it. I don't begrudge it. It's a difficult decision. The achievements are what they are. And, you know, it's only easier to do it that way. You know, what are your thoughts on these guys? These are guys that you played with in your career. So you certainly would have definite and valid opinions. Yeah, no, bonds, it's a no brainer for me. I mean, the alleged start of usage was what 98 and 99. He had already won three MVPs, two back to back at that point. He was the best player in the league at that point. And it was close in terms of griffey being right there, but he was literally he was a Hall of Famer at that point in my mind. And then he took his career to another stratosphere thereafter. So he's a no brainer to me. I like, I think David Ortiz is a Hall of Famer. For me, the ones that stood out to me, most. And I like all your picks. I played in the same division as Scott Roland. I got to see him on a consistent basis as a young player. And he was as good of a two way player as we had in the league at that point. So I love that pick. I focused in a buck O'Neil. I was happy to see him get in by the early baseball committee..
Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"scott roland" Discussed on Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast
"That stir last year. But he is lovable in a lot of respects and he does these things on the field that make you think he is a happy go lucky fun guy. And it seems like a lot of his teammates have very nice things to say about him. But presumably not opponents he is punched in. Yeah. Yeah, and it's tricky. I think that we can maybe and we don't know that this was what was at play. I think you can understand the context that might lead someone to behavior like this without excusing it, but it is important to sort of understanding it. And I don't know if you've been DFA, maybe that, you know, shakes you and puts you on your back foot from a mood perspective. But yeah, he can't you can't bunch someone without don't punch people, first of all, we can stop at that. We don't really need to qualify, but if you're going to engage in punching in the baseball context switch, you know, some baseball players seem really motivated to do despite us thinking that it was that it's not the best way to resolve conflict. It's generally best for people to have a sense that you're coming because you can really hurt someone that way. It's good that that doesn't seem to have happened here, but don't cold cock someone, that's bad. All right, so let's get to today's topic. The Hall of Fame ballot was released today Monday and I need some help here because any day now before the end of the month, I will be getting a Hall of Fame ballot in my mailbox for the first time ever. I got the email today, notifying me that my ballot was mailed or was going to be mailed today. I am eligible for the first time. I've been a member of the baseball writers association for ten years now. So my privilege as part of that is that if I want to, I can vote on the Hall of Fame. And my inner 12 year old is pretty pumped about this. Yeah. My outer 34 year old is sort of hoping the ballot gets less in the mail somehow. So I genuinely do not know what to do. And I don't mean that I'm like kind of conflicted, but really I've made up my mind already and I just want someone to endorse my decision. I really have not made a decision and I could use some advice from you from the listeners from anyone who wants to weigh in here. And we talked a little bit about the issues with Hall of Fame voting these days last year, and episode 1640, we had a couple of philosophy professors on to talk to us about the ethics of Hall of Fame voting, but this is really real to me now. And I guess it's a year closer to being real for you. And I'm pretty conflicted here. I don't want to sound super self serious and act as if this is the weightiest moral decision anyone has ever wrestled with because I think baseball writers can be a bit precious about this at times. Not naming any names. But in the grand scheme of things, the Hall of Fame ballot doesn't matter that much. But this is a baseball podcast, so most of what we talk about doesn't matter that much. So I basically picked the worst possible time to enter the voting body. I mean, my timing is the opposite of impeccable here. It's like the Donald Glover in community meme where he walks into the room with the pizza and he's smiling and then the room is on fire. That is me work again with my first ever Hall of Fame ballot in the final year of eligibility for Barry Bonds, Roger Clemens, semi Sosa and Kurt Schilling. The first year of eligibility for Alex Rodriguez and David Ortiz. And of course, you have the lockout potentially contributing to a dearth of other baseball news. So December might just be like Hall of Fame all the time. That will not be the most pleasant discourse. I don't think. So this is basically like I'm the contestant on who wants to be a millionaire who's torn between two answers. And so I'm using a couple of lifelines today. I'm phoning a friend that you and I am asking the audience and I'm not going to necessarily abide by anyone else as a opinion about what I should do here, but I do value anyone else's opinion about what I should do here because this is not necessarily what I envisioned. Yeah. I thought about voting for the Hall of Fame to the extent that I ever thought I would. Like, once I was in the BBW a and I started looking ahead and said, oh, hey, you know, ten years down the road. I could potentially vote for the Hall of Fame. That's kind of cool and I can have a little impact on history here and I can join the rich tradition of baseball writers voting on the Hall of Fame and I care about baseball history. And in theory, it's sort of a fun activity to participate in. But a little less fun now and I know I'm not the only writer who shares that opinion. So basically it's like, you know, I always envisioned that this would be about picking who were the best baseball players. That's kind of always what I thought the Hall of Fame was not the museum portion, which is separate, of course, but the plaque part, the part where we decide is this guy Hall of Famer or not and he gets to have his plaque in the room. That to me was always about, well, were you one of the best baseball players ever, and it was basically only about that more or less. And now it is not only about that. And I don't know whether that's a good thing or a bad thing, but it is definitely different. And so when I was looking ahead to this, I was like, you know, I can be in on the next 11 or Tim raines or Larry walker. You know, I can support those candidates who maybe deserve or support than they get. And I can prevent or help prevent a future snub of an archaeon or a Bobby gricar and Alan Trammell or a Kenny Lofton someone like that. You know, I can cast my righteous vote for the saber metrically supported candidate. And now, well, I guess it would be fun to vote for Scott Roland. But beyond that, almost every legitimate candidate has some sort of controversy associated with them that makes it bigger than just baseball than just the stats. Yeah, just the numbers and just the jaws score. And so it's a different exercise and when that I feel more ambivalent about than they expected that I would. Well, perhaps we can start with a couple of sort of ideological questions that might help you to put some bumpers on this. Because I think that there are a couple of things that as a voter you need to answer for yourself and perhaps first and foremost, well, do you want to do the character stuff now? Or would you like to save it for a second question? Well, it all comes down to the character stuff, I suppose. I guess so. It depends what your other question is. I don't know. Let's start with a question that is relevant both to some returning candidates and also to some of the newcomers. So have you developed your opinion of where performance enhancing drugs factor into your ballot? Well, 'cause I think there are a couple of ways that you can go about this. I have always thought that Jay's approach, Jay jaffe's approach to this is sort of a reasonable one, right? Where he sort of bifurcates the group between those whose association with PEDs was part of what he dubs the wild west period right before there was a collectively bargained policy, the one that we know now that governs enforcement..
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"Besides the Reds and Brewers, there are three other day games on the schedule. Today. Pittsburgh plays host to the L. A Dodgers. The Braves are in Philadelphia to take on the Phillies and the Mariners and Tigers get together. In Detroit this afternoon. And look at the scoreboard is brought to you by Nix Go Plumbing, Choose a pro Knicks Go and buy Brand standards Kangaroo with over 20 years as your hometown roofing expert. As we get you ready for the Reds and Brewers. It's time to turn things over to Dan Horde, time to play 10 teammates and a hat with a picture who had a 17 year playing career, beginning with the Class a Fresno Giants in 1985 and ending with the Texas Rangers in 2000 and one the Cowboy Jeff Bradley. I have written down the name of one teammate from every team you ever played for their own little slips of paper in that baseball hat. You are going to randomly select 10 and share some memories. Are you ready to play 10 teammates and a half? Sure I am Alright. Here we go. Former teammate number one With Jeff Brantley. How could this be any better? 1997 Cincinnati Reds Kent Mercker. Workers should be doing my job. And I believe that one of the wittiest funniest teammates, um and best teammates that I've ever been around best golfer best vodka drinker. The best pool player. A great friend here, and I did a lot of things that I can't talk about on this radio show. Um, but they were all very fun. Cat markers. A classic. All right. Here comes former teammate number two with the cowboy. 1990 San Francisco giants Gary Carter. Best catcher ever through two. It was a wonderful person, a wonderful guy. He He treated me as an equal even though he was a veteran player, and I was very young and dumb and really didn't understand the whole game at that point in my career. But I remember the first time that he set up behind the plate and I was on the mound. He put his mid up, and then he peeled the top of his mitt back. What that does for a picture is instead of him, just holding the MIT there When he peels the top back, it's almost as though the MIT becomes twice as large as what it normally would be. And it gave you that instant sensation of Can hit that target. He made you feel like a champ. The kid that's awesome. Here comes forward Teammate number three with Jeff Brantley, 1987 Phoenix Firebirds, Dave Kingman. Yeah, I didn't know Kingman that well, But when you're 5 9.5 and you're 23 years old and a guy that you used to watch on TV hit home runs in a Cubs uniform at Wrigley happens to play on your team in Triple A You take notice, and you watch the things that he does, whether they're good or whether they're bad, and he didn't care if he swung and missed a pitch. He wanted to hit every ball over the fence. Remember, we were playing in Portland, Oregon, of all places, and they had a real short left field fence. The wall was probably 2 85. Maybe maybe 300 Max. He had probably 17 balls out of there during batting practice. We had to open up to new cases of balls just for BP, but when it became game time I don't even remember him. Fallon off a pit. It was at the end of his career. So there you go. Well, he did hit more than 440 in the big leagues, so he certainly had a great career before winding up in the minor leagues. Alright, here comes former teammate number four. 2000. Philadelphia Phillies Scott Rolling, consummate gamer. I've met Roland right after he had won rookie of the year we were playing for Terry Francona's worst team that he ever managed. We couldn't draw anybody there because we were terrible. When when you're in Philly, you you saw and we signed. We were bad. But Roland, you knew even his second year in the big leagues. He was a leader. Because he outworked everybody. He never took no for an answer, and he he just figured it out. One of the great defensive third basement of all time. Scott Roland. We've reached the halfway point Here is former teammate number 5 1991 San Francisco giants Willie McGee. One of the greatest guys of all time number one. I'll say that treated me Like an equal as very young. When when I met Willie just to be in the presence of the guard. You were humbled, and he absolutely hated for you to Treat him like he was a superstar. Uh, he would strike out and run back to the dugout. And this was a guy that was his accomplished as anybody else in the game, he would strike out and he was It was almost as though he was so embarrassed. He was like, I don't want people just want to get my name back in the dugout because it's on the back of Jersey. Get my name back in the duck out as quick as I can. Maybe they'll think it's somebody else. All right, five down, five to go here is Former teammate number six with Jeff Brantley, 1985 Fresno Giants. The Nessler Will Clark Junior Best clutch hitter I've ever been around whether it be in college or whether it be in professional baseball. Most confident human being that I've ever been around, knew he was going to get to the World Series knew he was going to be an All star played the game with every possible ounce of passion that he had every time you ever put it on. Will the thrill that's good stuff. All right, Here comes former teammate number. 7 1994. Cincinnati Reds prime time. Coach of the Jackson State football team. The odd Sanders I'll tell you a quick story. Dion bought me a pair of crocodile boots. And put them in my locker at Riverfront. He must have thought my foot was a lot bigger than what it really was because they were like, size 12 and I put them on. And you know when, when? If you wear cowboy boots and your feet aren't big enough? If they're too big for you, they start to turn up at the end like Elf shoes. And I remember thinking to myself, you know he's going to expect me to wear these and I look like an elf. I'm already short, shortest guy in the room. I'm gonna look like an elf and I told Barry Larkin. You know Barry was our captain. I said, you know how? How should I handle this? I mean, what should I do?.