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#61 En hne  plukke med Trygve Hegnar!

Liberaleren Podcast

20:15 min | 1 year ago

#61 En hne plukke med Trygve Hegnar!

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Evolucin viajera

Podcast RadioViajera

43:59 min | Last month

Evolucin viajera

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BONUS A Dark Evil Secret in Our Own Backyard

Strong By Design Podcast

22:29 min | 1 year ago

BONUS A Dark Evil Secret in Our Own Backyard

"We believe that you are strong by design and you were made in god's image to have a strong body mind and spirit. You're listening to the number. One strengthen health authority podcasts in the world so let's get ready to unlock your potential and transform your life in today's episode episode good morning. It is coach brian here with strong bydesign a welcome welcome to our channel on this beautiful friday. Hopefully this days finding you well so far and if you're ready for the weekend gimme a distant assistant high air five. I'm ready for the weekend. I know you a real real are speaking of high fis. Chris reached across the table and gave me a high five so <music> welcome chris. I didn't want you to look like a silly person with your arm up. I know somebody somewhere was far away giving me that one hand firmly on the the steering wheel and just air five arefi. It'll makes you smile right. Apply download to slow my son. He loves that one. That's that is is it going on so welcome to our podcast strong by design your made in god's image to have a strong mind body and spirit and we just are <hes> giving giving you a little bit of a taste of next week's episode. I had the privilege of sitting down with two incredible individuals one. I've known for quite some time i would. I'd say at least eleven or twelve years. I consider him a mentor of mine. He is a profound expert in the field of this particular topic topic but not only that he used to work a wall street. Not many people knew that so he's an educated individual when it comes to risk-taking knowing liabilities for his assets assets and all that good stuff but he is a man of faith he is an incredible devout husband father of three awesome boys and like i said he i consider him a mentor of mine so i reached out to him because i knew he was in this particular topic and he jumped on the opportunity to tell with me but he's like hey brian. Can i bring being in the real expert and i said absolutely bringing whoever you need so he quickly gave me a rundown of this guest tasha nas cemento and i said absolutely let's bring her in so the three of us had a great conversation of conviction of hope of restoration but also of just information. I was gonna say explanation because we all around here. I think had it backwards when it comes to this particular issue in our world today mhm there's a lot of confusion and i mean this is a topic. That's uncomfortable and that's way outside of anything that we've discussed on this show before and i think there's a lot of learning. You've seemed like blown away after sitting with them for like an hour. You were like i could see you face ace. It was like you were just in a seminar getting like wowed by by the speaker because you're you're hearing things for the first time that you never knew yeah yeah. We were talking all things human trafficking. It's very sensitive subject but it's one of those subjects that has to be talked about. It's some people just considered fitter at like one of those things like those taboo things that just kind of like sweep it under the rug. Turn your back on it like let somebody else handle it. Yeah and we know how that that works well in life. When we just sweep things under the rug and don't have scott beuller it does not do well. It does not turn out in anybody's favor other than the person being involved involved in it in in the negative light so we talked everything <hes> and like christopher said there was a lot of stuff that i just i had no clue about like i thought i consider myself a fairly educated individual and i even said that in the last <hes> the podcast you're about to listen to next week. I was like man. How did i know this stuff or we're talking. Human lives here. We're not talking about saving the sea turtles or plastic straws or turn the lights off to go green. You know to save some tricks like we're talking like lives sons daughters moms dads you know people that i don't have a name have a story and it ended up living in a world that we just can't even imagine the end the the crazy thing is. It's a right right underneath our knows. It's right in our backyard. It happens all the time right around us. We're not talking just stuff you see on the movie over or the the news of international trafficking issues like the the stats and we're talking about here in the good old survey and even specifically specifically in florida florida yeah. It's like a hotspot florida in general probably because there's so much coastline it's an ports and that's what i thought but and not necessarily necessarily it's it comes down to legislation florida. Has this stick out. Your hand gets slapped on the wrist <hes> mentality when it comes to trafficking right right because as you were saying it's not so much it's just domestic. Traffic rats not necessarily international people getting taken shift overseas and that's what that's that's the concept that we all felt the concept and natasha incredible job clearing that area and i just sat there and looked at her and i was like you gotta be kidding me yeah like the the statistics that we think are accurate are pretty far from the truth yeah and it's again. She did an incredible job shedding light so natasha runs this <hes> nonprofit women's. I shouldn't say women's child's recovery house project. Whatever you wanna call it but <hes> not for profit. It's called the the redefining refuge she got into. I don't wanna say the political scene but the lack thereof kind of sparked her to redefine what refuge really meant so she she took she took it upon herself to doing something about she became an advocate for an absolute salihi so she started an actual child's refuge where she brought in children that were rescued that were pretty much abandoned from their parents or were there pimp whatever situation they were in so she scooped him up brought them under her care obviously with the help of volunteers and other the people within the organization but they nurtured them back to what we consider normal individual because think about their reliability just think about it like their art programs in place by the government like all right. You can do this to to to break that addiction. You know go celebrate recovery or alcoholics anonymous. You know they say all right go into that program twelve steps and then then you're good but that's that's not even started the fight the start of the battle where she said like they need to nurture them back into into just normalcy just of humankind you know some of these girls were afraid just to share their name because their name they thought their name was the you know just associated with this past. I mean it's just yeah so. It's definitely a definitely a convicting episode so that i had with them. Yeah personally. I mean i just i couldn't believe the numbers that they're giving me the short stories that they were sharing and and honestly i think the the perception that we have and i was just gonna come up in the full episode <hes> perception that we all had when it comes to human trafficking or how you would define it is that that one percent of what actually goes on right right where people kidnapped the missing kid that all of a sudden is just disappeared and who knows those were were were they've been taken to that's a very small. That's like the highlighted version right. That's the one that gets the press that gets hot button gets people to take action right it but that's a very small percentage of of overall of the overall issue yeah right which is more like they're they're bred into this us and and their own in parents who have gone the wrong way taken the wrong path in life are like using their children in in a way to pay for serve. You know pay for services pay for drugs pay for all right well yeah. It's brian on the other hand. He's just he supports the organization again. He's got his own his own career and things like that. He's still in finances but he's also he works closely with other like-minded recovery programs and what brian actually does he he partners along with police departments with his team they go into high risk situations hinson and they call them rescues or extractions they go in and literally extract the child or the young adult from abroad from a massage parlor from a prostitution ring and pull them out sometimes at gunpoint. You know screaming running. You know saying where we're your okay. Yeah old in these people saying like look. You're safe. Now police are there. The thing is police can't do that because they don't have enough evidence again. Human trafficking is a billion dollar industry multiple billion dollar industry because it consists of sex pornography goofy drugs. This is just right in america yeah so law enforcement. They're dealing with very savvy. Business owners and we're not talking slum lords. We're not talking. No we're talking. We're talking evening time meeting. Just we're not putting names out there but just flip on the news and there's one figure right now yeah that was involved with this this issue correct and everybody knows who that is but he had more money than than the government almost well. It's epstein. We say public news news but it's yeah that's who they're going against. Thank you so much for listening to the strong by design podcast. If you find our show helpful in any way please let us know by leaving a five star review on. I tunes go too strong by design. Podcasts dot com your review will will help us reach more listeners and continue to change lives. Let's get back to the show right. These are the type of people that are involved in this high high level people judges pastors i million dollar howard for people and their somehow connected to this somehow involved in this stuff and obviously filters all the way down to like the people like and what natasha's do by the way what's her accent. She is the killer she south african okay shawna's berg she she has this she comes in and i didn't pick up on it immediately but then after i heard the hawk for a little bit. I'm like wow she she is. The coolest and i just said how did you land in tampa says her parents moved here just for work and it's funny now she goes oh. I'm leaving for paris tomorrow. Marla what's impera. She goes all my parents live there so it sounds like her parents are pretty <hes> and well to do and allowed allowed her afforded her the opportunity to to do a lot of things like this reaching out interest and that's what i feel with other cultures. I mean people from europe who you were born and raised in europe. You know they're very well versed in many different languages many different cultures and here in the u._s. We speak american. That's pretty much always speak but it anyway she. She's one of those individuals very bright young woman that was just convicted and not only convicted but she was prompted to do something about it so she did. She just couldn't couldn't sit by and let somebody else handle it again. She's running a five. Oh one c. three so that's a very difficult position because you're dealing with you know lack of funds trying wanna raise funds dealing with volunteers confidentiality stuff. I mean there's a lotta stuff that goes into running a in what i consider a high risk type of not for profit organization because she's dealing with people that you know that were pulled from very difficult situations you know so. She has to make sure everything is on point yet. Committed to it. Numbers are staggering. I mean we're talking hundreds of thousands if not millions of of young people it's crazy that are are affected by this in some way and that's just in our country yeah and and brian and brian shared more of an international standpoint yeah yeah m. morph dwarf standpoint from the boy side because boys are roughly one in every five traffic situations is a young boy oy and a lot of people don't know they. They just assume it's just some a little girl but one in every five twenty percent of the traffic population is is young boys and then we <hes> we talked a little bit about different reasons why or how they got involved or how somebody got involved in the situation because because to me i was just like how does somebody get involved with this. <hes> what are the the indicators of the red flags of of certain stuff and they said honestly it's it's so broad because the tasha gave an illustration of married couple both come from suburbia u._s._a. Both have doctorate degrees and their daughter got involved with a pimp so it doesn't say like you know doesn't come from divorced right doesn't come from from this socio economical status. Whatever on the on the outside not knowing much. It'd be like that you can almost family situation looks fine like everything's good to go there. Then they get involved and brian said something that actually both of them said this and they said and i ask a question. How can can't somebody point out someone who's being trafficked or has been kidnapped or is within this ring of sexual trafficking. They said you'll never know aw and i said how how explained that and i don't want to spoil it but it it it hit me because they said look at it this way. A pimp is going to do everything everything they can to nurture to protect and give this their product the best lifestyle possible so in in my mind. I'm thinking i'm like all right. I'm thinking like the stereotypical prostitute is on the corner. It looks a little beat up. They've got scars. They've got tattoos or beat up and bruised bruised and their hair is a mess or closer a mess but he's like that's not reality. The reality is that these women are well taken care of. They have nice clothes. They have nice cars. They have a great pain job but they're they're like high level escorts even exact right you know so. He got these guys who are very affluent affluent exactly. I'm gonna say guys because let's face it. I think it is i think this is a grown man issue here correct and they're paying hundreds of thousands thousands of dollars for experience with this person it had opened my and you're right and they're only gonna wanna do it with somebody. That looks a certain way right. So oh this person's taking care of groomed you know so there are like real estate taking care of real estate. That's like a how about this owner of a pit bull who does dog-fighting. They're gonna you're gonna do racehorses greyhounds. You're gonna give that dog is much nutrients and exercise and and because that's otherwise a good lifestyle except when it's in the ring fighting for its life that's their prized possession yeah and it's i. I never really looked at it that way. I wouldn't either and the and the fear that these women and have for these girls have that that these pimps instill in them <hes> at saint like you have such a good light. Yeah you're gonna lose this lifestyle but then they instill the fear. You're that you're right. You're going to end up dead in a gutter or or your your nobody without sure nobody without me. They know their vulnerability and the exploit floyd the heck out of it yeah they they feel as if there's no way out it's a power trip to have. This power took manipulate. Somebody thinking what they're doing is right. It's it's totally blew. My mind. Side absolutely blew my mind because how i looked at this whole issue of human trafficking in human trafficking. I'm talking labor on talking drugs. I'm talking sex. The whole industry is i don't wanna see skewed. It's just misrepresented for what we see. On the mainstream basis yeah and even hollywood hollywood is a horrible job of painting. A clear picture of what trafficking really is yeah and <hes> again. I probably spoiled some of the information but again. It's one of those issues. A spectacular alerts are fine. Hey in in the movie trailers. They always show you the best scenes hero you're going to see the movie and you're like. I saw that yeah so this this this conversation we had next. Week's episode is a little bit different than our usual. Our usual episodes don't go into it with a <hes> a could i don't wanna say a debbie. Downer attitude like it is a heavy issue but we end on a very high note with success stories with hope with <hes> <hes> survival with rescue. It's and that's what we really wanted to showcase but in order to quote unquote sell this this particular topic. We need to paint some hard facts well. It's it's it's it's information. That should be out there. Put out into the world. People need to know about this stuff stuff like you said the very beginning. You can't hide from it. You can't run from a sweeping under. The rug is if it's not happening. You know we're parents. We have children and right. We need to know about stuff like this so that we can. Maybe recognize it in someone else's life right. I couldn't imagine as a father of two u. Of other of two mica father we all have children here that you know that any of us would ever have a child exposed to this environment environment. This world this very dark sexually perverse world exists out there and <hes> people need to be clear about like what actually is going down and we got people who work intimately with this ripe situation and know better than anyone right what how how added a fine it and talk about it and this is not something you're going to hear a lot about on the news right because that's the only gonna talk about that other one percent of what is going to be a cover up because certain certain officials or executives are exactly alternates and so anyways learn goto redefining refuge dot o._r._g. Orgy to get some more information about this a little bit more prepared for next week's episode which is going to go up wednesday wednesday at six am no-doubt. Please check it out because again. This episode is something that you need to hear just to clear the air and i know it's gonna convict at least one heart to to step into this this issue and make a difference even whether it's just putting in some time to help in your community or it's donating donated who across right there's so many different the ones out there that that we've heard about investment years right that help these children jeevan what we do at hope children's home is like helping young people right like like to become better adults you know when they're coming from a bad situation you know so it's anything you can do to help our young the people <hes> and give back so that were nurturing them in their growing up in a healthy environment and <hes> and can become productive adults. I mean that's there's. I don't think there's anything better that you can do in life and give back in that capacity so brian. Thanks so much for bringing brian and natasha asia and i'm so excited to listen to the episode 'cause i. I didn't once i got the podcast rolling man that door was shot and it was just you guys in here for like an hour so it's gonna the v._a. Good one yeah. It definitely is going to be a good one so again. Check back wednesday six a._m. <hes> yeah just carve out about an hour of your morning or afternoon to really invest asked into this podcast episode because again. It's one that you need to hear and we do encourage you to share it with somebody. After you listen to it because again like i said we need to raise awareness on this issue and it starts with you and we just need to do that. Step for us so have a great weekend. Yes stay safe. Stay stay strong and any final words chris. We just thank you so much for being a listener on our show and <hes> it's so important that you're ear able to share this or give us a five star review or leave a comment of some kind on. I tunes strong design podcast dot com. It's so helpful to us to be more visible on itunes and <hes> we just love doing what we do and i don't know that we ever thought we'd like it quite this much. 'cause not that long ago podcast. We're not even in our wheelhouse right weren't even part of twenty twenty eighteen you know and then all of a sudden you know after a one night discussion you know we started podcast and here are we are so many episodes later and we're all like we're building more and more momentum and we really enjoy this because this is completely lately free. It's completely just us getting great minds and experts and gurus in our presence and we're learning from them and getting inspired from them just like the listener you know what i mean. It's like we're all enjoying this together. So thank you so much. It's such a wonderful opportunity for us us and we appreciate your time and and making time in your day for us so have an awesome weakened by everybody. 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SerifaCast #54 Tendncias (positivas e negativas) para podcast no Brasil em 2020

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SerifaCast #54 Tendncias (positivas e negativas) para podcast no Brasil em 2020

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Adapting Episode 1: Canlis

Acquired

43:13 min | 1 year ago

Adapting Episode 1: Canlis

"It's kind of like the word pick six. I don't that just happened to go. And now everybody says it watch. Espn pick six six two and when it doesn't happen they're like we could really use a pick six right now. No one said that ten years ago. Welcome to season six episode. Four of acquired. The podcast Then I think you're on autopilot. Sorry muscle memory all right listeners. We are coming to you. In a time of enormous change and upheaval. The Corona virus has spread around the world challenging global health systems bringing economies to their knees and changing daily life for everyone seemingly overnight given this It just seems irresponsible to stay business as usual over here and put on our normal acquired episodes free wall. So we're changing acquired for the first time ever. We're taking a pause from normal episodes. The world doesn't need acquired right now. People normally tune in to hear US talk about stories behind great technology companies and what goes into building them but these are normal times what the world does need right now is stories of great leaders and how they in their organizations are responding to might be the biggest moment of change. We've ever seen so we're going to take everything that we put into. Acquired over the years. our format our infrastructure. And the way we can reach all of you and we're going to put our full weight behind this so starting today we're pausing acquired and we are launching adapting adapting series all about doing just that showing leadership and changing to fit what the world needs right now now what it needed last week so with adapting. We're GONNA take a shallow if a more shallow dive at the beginning of each episode into the history of organization but our focus is really going to be on the present and on the future. Not The past. We also won't be grading adapting requires taking risks and putting yourself out there and anyone. Who's doing that right now? Is forever in a plus in our book? Yep Yep David. I think we were just talking about this. But I'm I'm excited about. This just feels right in in this moment to do this totally listeners. We are making some important changes to the acquired community. If you haven't joined our slack you can sign up on the acquired website and find all the announcements there and we're doing some sort of new and and pretty cool things in there if you're not yet a limited partner. Now is the time to join. In addition to LP episodes we are adding a community component to the L. P. Program. So last week we had our first group. Zoom call with everyone who's Shut in at home and it was really fun and therapeutic to get to talk with everyone so we've decided to make it a regular monthly thing as part of the limited partner program. We'll be announcing more details on that in the L. P. 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Silicon Valley Bank supports innovative companies and their investors and has for more than thirty five years. It knows that innovation requires adaptability flexibility and unrelenting passion for finding solutions today more than ever as B B salutes. Innovators everywhere learn more at ESFBF DOT COM SLASH. Next Day men. And thank you guys. You thank you now. What is today's episode actually about well? We're doing an episode on a topic that we never thought we would do on the show a local restaurant but it is so much more than that indeed and we think Our guests words are are very inspiring and super important today so without further ado please enjoy our conversation with mark can lists of Seattle's. Ken Lewis Restaurant Alright listeners. Most of you are aware that restaurants are among those hit. The hardest from our current health crisis. Quesnel is leading the way in adapting to provide a product in need delivery food saving jobs and ensuring the continuation of the business through trying trying times many are asking as a city country and global community. Can we do this and As Mark said in the Seattle Times earlier this week. Hell yes we can do this. We're going to do it with burgers and Bagels so To introduce mark. I'm going to borrow a line Or a little bit of Mark's bio from the Kansas website. Because I find the the pros just poetic. Marquette is the second of three sons. He grew up in a restaurant family. He joined in two thousand and three after graduating from Cornell University and serving as a captain in Air Force Special Operations. He met his wife. Anne Marie well opening famed restaurant tour. Danny Meyer's fifth restaurant blue smoke. In Manhattan returning to Seattle Mark spearheaded the generational transfer and brand modernization. That has garnered the family business national acclaim as one of the finest restaurants in America. He now owns and operates can list with his brother Brian. He and Ann Marie reside on Queen with their three children and as for countless food and wine magazine has called it one of the forty most important restaurants in the last forty years they have received twenty two consecutive wine spectator grant awards and been nominated for Fifteen James Beard awards at one three of them. Welcome mark thank. You also have the luxury when you write your own bio you can make yourself sound. Good I hope. I haven't inflated that in any way but but thank you. I was going to say the most important thing for for Ben and for me is I know both of us had had many special memories at unless so thank you guys know. I'm honored to be on the show. All right David take us in history and facts. Yeah well so for anybody of our listeners who are in the Seattle area probably many who even many. Who aren't you already know a lot about Cam? Last but mark. Can you give us a little bit of the history? I mean it's a very very special place. This isn't just another restaurant. Maybe can you go back and talk about your grandfather's story and Hawaii Pearl Harbor? Sure you know we have galway back. I run this restaurant with my brother. Brian and we very much feel like this is the tale of a couple of different grandfather's Amalgamation of four generations of cameras doing restaurants are great grandfather. Cra Teddy Roosevelt after his presidency on African Safari was picked up at a hotel in Egypt. Invited to come along and be a steward on that whole thing for a year and a half so really it starts there He and my great grandmother would Come a United States somewhere around nineteen nine nineteen ten started restaurant Stockton California at that time and had a bunch of kids one of them. Peter can lose Started this restaurant countless in nineteen fifty. So that was my grandfather. He would pass away in the seventies and my mom and dad ran this for. Thirty Years Brian. I have now been doing it since two thousand three and in so many ways we feel like we're just getting the hang of it so slow learner but more or less a hundred years of trying to cook for people. There's there's a pretty cool military history with the restaurant and starting with Peter to yet so then on the other side of the family are a whole bunch of folks who have served in the armed forces and that is a just continues to be Something that we're really proud of family and and something that we've many of us chosen to do and and represent some of the sweetest years waste for my own life and I would say the same is true from a dad and my grandfather and my brother so I was in. I was in the air force so with Brian Data's a navy grandfather was a marine for forty. Three years on the can do that anymore. But back then you could and so we have. Yeah that's just been a part of our family story in to be completely honest. A very large influence on the way that we lead the last year yesterday. His crazy drive-thru cars everywhere shutdown traffic. And I get a. I got a phone call. I had hearing aid so that the thing just comes straight into my head is the phone is ringing in your brain so I just answered it because I thought it was our our road team. It was the kernel that I worked for twenty five years ago. Crown Miller and a man that just had such a remarkable influence on the way that I lead and it was raining. I haven't talked to years. And Colonel Miller no way. I've been talking about you to everyone because I in so many ways. I feel like you prepared me for this and matches a is not about adapting your company but the leadership. I think the the way the military teaches you to deprive people is just learned so much in my in my type service. So that was. That's just been a gift to us. That's great so the first iteration of Kamlesh the restaurant was on Honolulu. Grew out of the USO after Pearl Harbor. He left the place in Stockton. He grew up there in his want. Nothing to do with restaurants said with his parents were doing on the ends up in Hawaii. He's still on dry goods. When Pearl Harbor happens at he remembers. Zero's flying over playing tennis in the morning like everybody likes many people in Honolulu of the time. Cow Head to the base tried to do they could My grandfather had quite a healthy self esteem. Just code for GIO. He sounds like an entrepreneur. Yeah there you go. That's the thank you. That's a nice euphemism for at a large ego and at some point he finds himself talking a lot of smack inside the USO about the quality of food and chef get so upset ECON throws. Tom Says he didn't do better job. You'd try which of course he does by the end of the he's running all of the food on base for the US. It's about kind of between three thousand five thousand meals. Maybe in some way this drive through US getting back to our. I don't know high volume routes if you will bet but that's what happened after the war opened a restaurant on a beach. That was a little less known before the war and certainly than before. Now Go Weiqi. So yeah the Restaurant Forty Avenue Scott Beuller and then he came to you came to Seattle in nineteen fifty and mark just a context for our listeners. A little bit you when you say getting back to our high volume routes for folks are not from Seattle. Canvases is fine fine dining. What is normal volume look like and what is the adapted volume liquid Living Vogel? I don't really understand the real restaurant business but in the world of okay. Let's just try to understand fine? Dining for second Kazan gets a funny term. We consider fine dining just to be the most considered form of caring for somebody with with food and hospitality. It's like so for us. We're considered to be a massive fine dining restaurant in the world of fine dining you know. Twelve to fifteen tables is pretty standard. We have thirty three but on a busy night the most guests we inserted was somewhere around one hundred fifty to two hundred. I have a hundred fifteen employees to make that happen so we are model of inefficiency. And that's just six dinners a week as a whole were doing. So I'd say that like they just won't be able to know just exactly like not open for breakfast not open for lunch now Nano Yeah Hundred. Fifteen people figure out dinner and there's always if not maybe there's like a couple of hours a day when there's someone not there but when you talk about that hundred and fifteen people it's like two. Amd Baked bread or Sunday hours. A day we don't use our kitchen so twenty. It takes US twenty hours to to to open for what is essentially five hours of dinnertime service so a lot of pro obviously goes into that. Yes sure you baking bread and setting things up sometimes take a couple of days but today we served about twelve hundred people through the drive through. I always served about. I don't know someone range of three hundred people for breakfast tonight. We'll send a couple of hundred dinners out for delivery says it much different impact Fresno not exactly set up for it so we're trying to figure that out as we go but Today was a day arrest for us. It felt so Every day this week we've opened a new restaurant concept We started on Monday with drive through Tuesday. We added BAGELS. Yesterday we added at home delivery so today we were just sort of refining the systems again kind of Nice just to just to run them and see how we can tweak. Let's get right into you know. This show is adapting. Its now seventy years that your family has run. Kamlesh fine dining and in two weeks really since he started planning. You've thrown that out the window and now you're doing these three different things like can you walk us through. When was the moment you realize that this was going to happen and you needed to change go weeks ago now my wife and I were in New York City doing something James Beard Award and we got the news that Seattle had its first case and back to the hotel and just sort of talking through like you know the things come in. It's here in Seattle. And what does that mean for? Our family was meeting for not just our marriage in our own children but our extended family. I've parents are in their seventies. And what does it mean for for the restaurant family for the staff and couple days later back in home? We had a meeting as a team. And we just said you guys. Let's let's really think through this little bit while we were having that meeting. King County or governor I can remember was but someone official announced had his left livestream. Kinda came on and said his much bigger. Deal than we thought. And it's like at first. You just Kinda had. It's like the Sucker Punch to the system you've got to win dig a little bit and then pretty quickly. We realized that it would be just as risky to do nothing as it would to do. Something really radical. And if we if we were gonNA live into our values Than YOU KNOW. Everyone's raw that really is probably gonNa cost you something and in this way it was gonna cost shutting down what was still a profitable business for the unknown of opening up. Three new ones and the the reason we're doing three is again. It just took that many ideas to get all of my staff up to having all the hours would normally had and that was the goal here so We started with the drive through for those. That don't know we're finding restaurant looking this direction of but if you turn around or on a really busy road out nats not ideal non would plan out these days but we just said okay. What are we have? What what Starting with what? We are thankful for What assets Outta disposal here if we if we started from scratch? How would we play this and we were? I remember watching. The livestream were also huddled on a couch. They're the team. There's seven of us. I in this meeting. Is it like in the meeting? And we do these. Three our off sites and we'd go to one of somebody's home so we can kind of feel what it's like to be. Welcome into their home personally. So sitting on Maryland's SOFA and Which is not person. So it's like a three or four person so we're all Kinda like huddled in watching this thing and yeah I think it just it just hit us. That like gain isn't up like wait a second. This isn't over. This is just beginning. I think we'd all gone in with the sentiments of helplessness. If we're honest maybe hopelessness. I think there was a feeling of okay. I gotTA batten the hatches. I got to hunker down. I got you know and protect protect. And that's a lousy strategy. In a lot of things soccer being one of them is like you see in sports all the time when when the entire team sort of switches the defense and loses their inventory. Suddenly you're like don't do that way to keep playing your game in for us like we're GONNA keep playing our game. We just need to admit to the game changed and a game now. Currently today this is two weeks ago was no one understands the six but rule and no one understands what is socially social accept. What we don't understand if we should be shutting down schools in public places or if that is building fear that right so this is happening so quickly but Today at that moment that like the game had changed. We just got the sense that it was going to. Yeah it hadn't yet but it was like the writing on the wall and he. Nobody wanted to actually say that out loud but it felt that way a couple of weeks ago so I can tell you from the outside the way it sort of felt as You made a more drastic move earlier than most places like I think in the next week a lot of places started trying to figure out. What does it mean for us to do delivery but I will say from the outside the way it looked was and frankly part of what inspired David? An eye for this was. Oh my God. That was decisive and that was severe. And extreme and risky. Like you guys to take credit for that and let me tell you where a lot of that credit belongs of. Oh first off. We have incredible board of directors and some advisers who are just remarkable sounding board thrust. Both of our wives were really key into sort of speaking into However you're how we how we were proceeding the world and I think in this time it was a time of just great perception trying to understand and make sense of what we were hearing. Howard protein to us in our team. But really when we launched us with the executive team we said you know this thing could work as to say. There's a chance vote is taking on water and there's a chance it might sink and also there's a chance of life but on the end we'll someone just go to the end of this ship If that's kind of that meeting felt like and somebody came back and said you now as turn and others life Ship like we could all get in it right and so was I come so we sat on that as a team for twenty four hours a the next. I heard forty eight. Th Two days later I was having dinner with our staff and we're all sitting around having family meal talk in through and I just said you guys let me just like where my head's at scared to tell you 'cause I don't know what it means but this is what we're thinking about as a team and it would mean all of you need to revolving tier to work here. They would mean all of us using to be in a position choosing not to be laid off or temporarily furloughed choosing to actually continue to do this thing and would entity interested and not only that group of sort of five or six of US sitting around the table but the next night in a staff meeting announcing it to the entire team. This is up to you a you don't have to do this and every one of them saying we're in you know. Put me in coach and I think that was just such a boost of encouragement to us like you guys are in worrying and flows through the spray. It had like that sort of sentiment too. It was like okay. Why not and I think at some point you say to yourself in any time of crisis if I have the ability to help why am I not doing it? And that is what it felt like to us. It felt like this could be an encouragement to the city. It was clearly encouragement to the staff and is for us just the way through a way that an untested untried way. But that we give it a whirl awesome coolest I wanNA talk in about communication and language and language you guys use have always used but particularly now is really inspiring but before we get to that. Can we go back to the three concepts? You guys are doing breakfast. The BAGEL shed drive through lunch and then delivery for dinner. Where did they come from? There's also there's a fourth concept I'm super stoked about but Yeah I can kind of walk through all three of those. The first one was Was the drive through We saw is being biggest revenue generator. We have a ridiculous Labor here. It's the most expensive thing when you. That's why these concepts had actually work and so we just geographically if you understand the restaurant where she can pull right off of the street right under our report could share. You can stay in your car and you can roll right on down. The driveway recite. That's what we knew. We needed that. The cleanliness there the ability to not have any contact with gas but still be facing them and so yeah we were embracing our inner drive through as the finding restaurant. It was because this is asking mindless is led out of the bag in chef. Cook Remarkable Burger. And we always joked about doing this sort of traditional Salazar's Salish to go item. And like I have like let's just to Burgers and ice cream sandwiches and salad to go like I don't know sometimes that's all you need. Can you talk about average ticket price for each of these three concepts and birds earned dollars? So you know we have designed this thing not to make money. I think it's a little bit weird to be Tricky distributing. I don't think there's any unethical anything. Unethical ABOUT MAKING MINUS time. I in a certain sense. We have a duty to do so but mostly as as a means of protecting the staff and to be clear. I don't I we're only four days in. I don't know if we are that. Say the bigger concepts clearly does not make money. It's labor intensive. We don't have the equipment to scale that in any way such that we can. We can move that to be a profitable business. We could raise the prices. But that's just feels dirty so the point again is is to keep you employed so um with birds who probably make a little extra bagels are definitely losing with dinner as we scale that up. That'll be profitable somehow it. We get brave even even from the onset. That's what that's what the goal was was like. It'd be amazing for the next three months cameras could not lose money. I think that'll posture us. Really well coming out of this thing on the other side and I do think of it as a few months. Not just a few weeks so get bagels. Came out of the idea of four really busy for lunch are expediter half incredible woman from the lower east side of Manhattan. She's a baker and she makes ridiculous Bagel and chef is from Brooklyn and he thought she was. Like as I've had in New York City or in Seattle we have a bread oven and a shipping container and it was like a no brainer so we just opened the Bagel shed. We're doing you know everything bagels with fried eggs and homemade sausage and cheese and can you sell the Bagels as an add on to dinner for like breakfast at home the next morning? Having good idea we sell out of bengals under hour. So it's a fulltime curve eight making these things and it lasts less than ours. We actually thought about intentionally slowing the line so that because again the ideas but but no good blowing through them to greatly our network right now. We're looking at taking another bakery that is closed and maybe we can use their space cascal higher. Yeah I did see something like a did some message on your website this morning like Unfortunately bagels are sold out as of eight thirty seven. Am Gun going so the last concept that just doing family meal at home we cook in Beijing Family Mail for the staff as the meal twice. A day chef prepares for our team and we always joked about by one of the best restaurants in the city. Actually being campuses fan. And you're like it's so good. The Patriots epoch-making cobblers bartenders making homemade sodas. And Chevy's like hey. This is my Mama's neat. Low Finance is like Enchilada from Nico's All Day and it's so good can kill us that the rest of the city doesn't get to see what these guys are capable of outside of fine dining so we just saw no-brainer like. Why don't we just keep making family meal? We don't need them. Big Men year delivery is tough to figure out making a transition like this. I think if you can keep it simple you should and so we offer one thing night Very first night it was castaway because we had all these dry docks docs and more arriva farm saying. Are you going to take delivery of ducks going forward immunity to say yes so Tonight it is a rabbit. Popeye and glazed carrots and it's Had for lunch is insane. It's so so good so we just thought shoe. We can bake all that stuff here. Pack it up through a bottle of wine in it and my servers who used to take food from the kitchen to the table or not just taking it to the parking lot and right on down the street a little way so Keeps them employed. Keep my kitchen cooking all night long and kind of fun. That's so cool. How technically how did you make that happen? You guys adapted. You've been on. Tuck the reservation the ticketing system for a while. How did you did you work with talk to make this apple talk? We called him early on. And we're like we have this crazy idea and we're actually trying to hack the system. It's talkers reservation system for those. That don't know and those guys are awesome. We were trying to get in the reservation system into a delivery system. We just figured out and they call you guys. Stop at all we can. We can do this. Give us five minutes five minutes later. They called back We stood company down. We're turning it back on. We just call everybody and then Chicago and we're just going to say you have the platform and they cranked it out working round the clock for a couple of days and we would have launched and so that is a mechanism that any restaurant in the country night but he can do drive through the physicality of Locations works but any restaurant company could do delivery and now that we've got the software for it. Just it's not over Tricky can you talk through? Any restaurant in the country can do delivery. I'm sure there's a lot of folks that that own restaurants that are listening to this. What does that take? It takes lower guts in takes just that kind of good. Old fashioned restaurants crabbiness Every restaurant to are already has. If you're in this business I guarantee you out but it takes because it just is just the same thing. It takes to run a restaurant. It's it's that it's a little bit of them The willpower just to make it happen at citing. All of us are going through so all we did was figure out a minimum and we'd launched a website so someone that knows what to do on the Internet. That's not me But our design team drew logo which is not necessary. We threw a little splash page on top of Kansas Dot com which is also not necessary. You could just post on instagram. Having switched to delivery so appreciate you supporting us doing this that you can do. Various versions of it is pretty. It's pretty fancy. Our servers have it on their phones. They get the maps. They get the texts. We can do drop-offs. No contact. Drop-off tweet alcohol again. Talknet all that possible but you can keep it really simple in. Immunised takes ordering some boxes to go endangers coming up with one thing that whole hot really well and letting your constituency now tonight is a great night for takeout so yeah we sold out three nights worth of takeout back ninety minutes while one question that I have that. I'D BE REMISS. If I didn't ask and I'll give a little context for listeners. So careless Lewis is innovative. Not just in the way that over the last sixty seventy years. You guys have changed fine dining which we haven't talked about on this episode but marks given some great talks that that you can sorta read about and the evolution of fine dining and. Ken was his role in it. But also in doing these wild experiments that you would not expect the finest dining in the city to also have a shake shack pop up in the parking lot before there was a shake shack or you would not have expected why we can we. Can we uncover that a little bit? You dig into why you wouldn't expect a fine dining restaurants too. Yeah definitely one of the reasons that this transition has been Possible Frost is that we practice this kind of thing and by that. I don't just mean events in our parking lot I mean if you WanNa be a restaurant that has around let alone relevant or Germane to the conversation. You're doing a fair amount of this every year anyway until I always ask you guys have opened a second restaurant on my co But we opened a second restaurant about every eighteen months. I would say that's how often the systems inside the canister changing And those are being rewritten by new employees and employees have been here twenty I The idea is that there's probably a better way to do it than the way that we're doing it. We just kind of believe that and so I think if you want to matter you need to earn that right and to earn it you gotta be working all the time opening a restaurant. That's really good and tonight we're good Tomorrow will be better. And that's not news to anyone. I think what happens I did? That's that's not a strategy to Nantes heard before if your business you get it right and maybe thank you to the Japanese. Who made that a very popular concept on the late eighties nineties but like we're all sort of thinking that way what happens is it's releasing lazy. It's really easy to start to devalue that as the thing is working in of course if you go too far that maybe you're enjoying things that still had a useful lifespan inside of them and say hey to take assistant down that would have been amazing flex foreseeable future so that takes a little sorting through. You gotta be careful there but welcome to business delegates and less listeners. Think that you know we're talking about a one time thing opening up a shake show. I like I went to Your restaurant last summer when I say restaurant. I mean parking lot for the Hawaiian Nights Luau where listeners. It's the largest hot tub you've ever seen for it's and it's up on like a second storey deck overlooking elect. You guys opened a little pizza shop and like a multi story like hey swim bar which we which we think we created and then we also had so we built a couple of Tiki huts and Have Yeah we yeah. The story is MIA bought the swimming pool on Amazon. Well no so for. We like to testings at on staff parties and go staff. Party is thrown on the the staff would willingly come to if they had no association with restaurant rates. You just said look you guys. It's a true day off or the true night off. Like do whatever you want and also to be throwing this party over your Totally like no expectation. Come only talk about it. And so anyway he at some point I we were throwing a Luau. Oh yeah we had covered the parking lot sawed Because we're like it's not cool as Joe Party in a parking lot and cement in wouldn't be ghost grass so he thought of that thing over through volleyball party Pig Roasting and somebody said at some point on the beach so routed sand and then I went on Amazon. Know what you can buy pool for like two thousand dollars. That's cheaper than the world's staff parties stuff adds up quickly so anyway by the pool and we feel that and then it just kind of like went from air so then that was a really successful in. We were thinking about fun things we could do over the summer and we thought. Why don't we throw the staff already for the city in honestly you guys? I thought like a few hundred people would come like who goes to a parking lot defining restaurant to hang out in a boat ground pool right. Twelve hundred people came in night like he was nuts and all of them waited an hour. Get in so that caught us by surprise but it was also a ton of fun of a DJ on top of a shipping container in underneath your Bagan the best pizzas in roasting pigs. And I don't know what happened either but it was so we do like to sort of think through these things and I think it's a little bit wrote good exercise like just because we're finding doesn't mean you're not thinking of ninety nine other ideas to do and to us it's Kinda like the Formula One version of putting out a sedan. It's like why don't we go push this as far as we can see what happens. And every one of these projects finds its way back onto Armenia. Everyone of these projects influences what we believe about hospitality. And you need that stuff. You'd be inspired by the People. You need to be inspired by. Yeah it's fun all right now before we finish our conversation with mark. We'd like to thank Wilson. Seaney the official legal sponsor of season six acquired and adapting Wilson senior the premier legal sponsor technology life sciences and growth enterprises worldwide as well as the venture firms private equity firms and investment banks. That financed them. So thank you to Wilson Sensini so as we start to wind down here. That's that's the question on my mind is I know it's only been four days but Of the three restaurants you talked about and forth. That will keep under wraps for now. What do you think might make its way into Ken? Lewis when we live in a normal world again. Here's what I hope makes its way can thus I hope that what comes out of this is a visceral reminder of how likely are and if there's anything that I think we've learned so far is that our understanding of the human spirit is limited at best and into only when you come to me and say Mark? I think you got this man. I reflect that back to you and say Look Ben. You got this right like. That's that's what happens. Something really powerful happens there and the whole mission of this company. Which is I know really weird mission. But it's it's to inspire people at turn toward one another and when we saw the disease spreading and I am not talking about Kovin nineteen. I'm talking about the amount of fear. The amount of discouragement. When we saw that spreading and often for really good reason this is not either not insignificant. Days this is a good overused but good word. This is unprecedented for the entire world to go through something together. Were known gets us. A Ad doesn't apply to me Ryan when something like that happens. I think we have a responsibility to remind ourselves of the Truth and the truth is we don't know what we're capable of we can. Let's team we the city of Seattle. We the United States America we the citizens of this rock that were around on and I hope that we understand that better on the other side of this thing and That's what we're learning. That's what we're learning inside this building. I don't know we might not be able to this tomorrow. Maybe this Fogo for months. I don't know but Every day I tell the team I was like. Hey look you're going to want to go home and crawl under your covers and read your phone. It's is important to do so when you wake up the next morning you go outside you physically go outside of your house your apartment you look up at the sky and ask yourself the question. Is it still out? There did a faulk. If it's still up there you can be thankful for that and you start with one thing for us. You say all right. The Sky did not fall contrary to I feel having mental headlines is still out there. I hear bird tweeting. I see a neighbor walking down the street. You know what? Let's start with what we have. Let's go from there unless ask yourselves question if this is what I have. What can I do with it and I don't know maybe what we get this whole thing is that as a discipline as a practice as a reminder that maybe that's a reminder that we need right now I think its reminder. I needed and he gets reminded team needed. And I wish you could feel the difference inside this place before and after we made this decision before it was feeling of helplessness and after it was a feeling of hope before it was feeling that the the overwhelming weight of this thing was too much in after it was the understanding that I had a role to play in that even just enduring even just enduring a little bit might be my and I think when we tell those stories then we start to remind ourselves that truth of who we are as people and as pretty cool at some while we wrote on our website we got the Seattle it was the most poignant way I could say city. That needed a here. We are capable of making it through. I cannot think of single better way to leave Leave this episode and leave our very first episode of adapted And without line so mark thank you so much. Thanks for thanks for having me on the show anything else you wanNA tell listeners or tell ya where they should go get some great food. I do want to tell us or something. Yeah I think they have the ability. Even though it doesn't feel this way to make a difference what we've been talking about here is my restaurant in you. Know what you don't have. You don't have my restaurant and you probably don't have a restaurant to dismiss as someone else's story in a city that you don't live in. I think be a great What would make me sad. I think to hear this inten know that. If we're crazy enough to give this a whirl maybe you know maybe some era crazy is okay too and I hope it gives them permission to think optimistically I hope it gives them permission to smile at a neighbor and keeping six feet away. I don't care you can still smile. And so That's not insignificant. It's important and it's GonNa take all of us remembering that about ourselves remembering that is who we ours. Story our country and largely. This is a story about well beyond our borders how alike we really are. Let's all go. Do not exactly what you're doing. What we all can to your logged over. I think competition only makes us better. But YOU'RE GONNA have some Steve Dishes burgers. You're pretty good on my calendar to come tomorrow morning. I think hopefully around seven seven thirty to the Bagel shed and pick one up. Suet swing on through. See her thanks so much mark listeners. We'll catch you next one things that's next.

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Starting 9 Episode 139 - Aaron Boone & World Series Preview

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Starting 9 Episode 139 - Aaron Boone & World Series Preview

"Series episode featuring Aaron Boone who will not be going to the world series. I didn't put that in the script I just I don't I didn't the options that I've been faced with the options that I've been presented with I have been allowed to be able to make decisions that and I have been in a position fortunately enough I've been a position where I don't want to say I've been able to choose but AH welcome back to starting nine y'all episode one thirty nine it is the world the guest I just figured hey Aaron Boone didn't interview Dallas it's a good one stay tuned for it I kind of anticipate oh These former players that teams are plucking out of media Alex Cora Aaron Boone the list goes on and on and on do you think think teams put stock in or enough stock in places where I think they really should be paying attention so your Rehab coordinators your Janki content and plus you have the dynamic of of Dallas and Boonie they go way back they they were former coworkers believe it or not you know what I was a crazy I saw that I had the Other Day Dallas was you know you have like a guy like at water Peres the rumors about D. Rowe ever maybe that Dallas Braden's phone might ring and it might be a teen being like hey maybe not for a managerial spot could be a managerial spot do you think team would ever call you you see the Marlins clubby the Marlins clubby has a sweet life yeah the Marlins lowy pitching coach not the Marlins clubby as opposed to the low A. pitching coach in anybody's anybody's farms not just the Marlins so we're not not picking on the Fisher yeah not great and I don't know who that human being is what I'm saying is as far as the money or the Revenue Stream is concerned you'll love to be I just that is what it is baseball's opportunities are always always either in the front office or at the big league level very rarely do again we want to touch all these teams we want to have a guestroom every single team are we had luke void earlier in the year we had Joe Shelhah So you know you can never get it pay to the maybe maybe the Yankees would still be around I don't know it doesn't matter it doesn't matter either way Aaron Boone on starting nine this week we give him to you benefit my family more so than I think would allow if I were to really listen to some of those phone calls or entertainment roving instructors the ones who are essentially carrying the message the gospel of your organization from level to level those are individuals that need to be taken in care of those are individuals whose jobs and roles are extremely pivotal pivotal in the growth of these young men so they need to be compensated it's well those phone calls on a deeper level yeah so I guess what I'm asking how much would it pay to be like the Marlins clubby were they what are they saying well here's the thing and be like hey we want you as a pitching coach she wants you as a bench coach we want you something do you think that that's a realistic thought I'll tell you this much you're my phone has rung like the teachers of the world like it's amazing to think that these are the people that are tasked with educating the future leaders of our country and I mean I'm afforded a very rare opportunity in terms of the access that I'm granted being able to go down and watch bullpens and Shit on jared the Marlins clubby makes more than a third year high school English Teacher Book it the I could probably see that happening they don't have that thirty five thirty six thirty seven year old veterans be like hey this is this is how you do it they don't have that guy around to be hey this is you know this is what the the routine actually is or study habits he's coaching the quality of your routine's those guys are important especially when you have young guys around young guys that are going to be impactful and I'm a pair of eyeballs that has been there done that understands what they're going through they know that I'm somebody who understands the analytics as well so they can speak to me using verbal subtitle quality control coach do you think that there's more of a need for guys more than ever now because we're seeing this trend of like hey right now compared to like ten years ago and they either didn't exist or they've expanded times a hundred I feel like there's gotta be a team out there it's like you know what he's fucking them Markazi so about what's going on in the NC double A. They just officially pissed all over the notion that we should have another assistant coach in and I'm not only watching bullpens right these guys are guys who who trust me to the point where they've taken me aside and asks me questions or just and it's not like I'm some Guru I just I'm a different set of eyeballs Katif pal guaranteed yeah I was just curious you know because there are teams that are just creating positions now like look at the analytics departments from do they need these veterans around four per se and a lot of stock goes into these guys in how they travel how they behave away from the net dugout nope they shot it down incredible they will not pay another assistant position in the NCWA knowing what those coaches do for those Tripoli you have to love the game my friend you have to love the game so I I guess this is kind of a thought that I had as you were explaining all that like a student athletes if you can't even say that with the fucking streep is knowing what they do for those ball players knowing how important they are they just refuse to entertain it fucking edge regarding things that they're developing or working on the ramp Soto things like that like there's just there's things you need to know that these guys are queuing on Roese but he knows a lot and I could help our guys what you're what you're starting to say this man I have a lot of I have a lot of extensive conversations with a lot of the guys I own but they were the veteran voices that helped me along that path I don't know that I would have been able to figure things out as quickly as I did if it wasn't for their tutelary aren't getting major league contracts anymore so you have these these younger rosters that are they might be extremely talented and ready to win now but l- let me give you a I'll be able to kind of answer that from two sides and I'll give you an example think about the struggles that you're on Alvarez this is going through right now about the struggles or just once Soto kind of kind of a little bit of a step back and you want it make him put their own bill show me love the game and that kind of transcends journey into professional baseball as well those opportunities SINGLE-A W in this Organization for a long time to come there here early they need to make sure that there's somebody that they can rely upon and that the younger guys are gonNA come up can rely who's going to help field how they show up to the field and then as I led to with Markazi how they establish and create a routine that suits them as a player because it's one thing to no that I'm in the bullpen go about his business was I actually was able to learn things from those guys but I couldn't just model my entire game after them I had to figure things out you're thirty four you're too old like you're out so like anyone that's younger than that it's like they need the veteran that no longer exists because those guys using in their everyday verbiage that is different from what maybe some of the old school guys are used to so that all all that kind of stuff to take what Marquan say is all to help these guys along as you said on the flip side of that this is a new era in this day and age of baseball so what title you want a place on this individual just to be able to get him in a union get him in the Dugout fucking throw it on them but as an absolute need for no doubt yeah I mean it's walk in and for me to watch a Joe Kennedy go about his business or watch a just Duke Scher go about his business or watch Alan embree in the Oakland A.'s Organization as a quality control coach and you're like what what the hell does it he's He's actually coaching the quality of love so it's no longer just about being able to take orders you have to be able to manage the personalities and the changing of the guard that's occurring on field leaders of gladiators in gladiator spirit you have to be able to connect with these individuals on a different level you also have to be able to connect with the suits and ties it is somebody that you're not like when you walk into the room people leave when you sit down at the table people shut up and then people pick up their plate and people were they experience that as well so you need the Zim right you need those guys around maybe it's the L. to their you need those guys around to be that's why I will always remember guys that impact my career that way and there's no doubt there's a place for individuals like that in today's ballgame so yes a quality control coach whatever the same thing's happening in Boston with with Jason Varitek I mean this is a guy there was a captain of the Red Sox a leader guy that pitchers wanted to throw to and all Major League pitcher Dallas Braden of Oakland A.'s fame for a potential big-league job I feel like that's that's breaking news no that's that's you know he might not be suiting up and getting out there and play in nine innings but he's he's doing these reports for the catcher I mean he's still like I feel like that's plans behind the scenes think about duke about guys like Rocco Ball Deli about guys like mark say whose name we're kicking around right now I think about a guy odd to be like game six elimination game for the Yankees the Astros can can go back to the world series for the second time in three years is that have been there and done that as a player so come to you and you WANNA know that they're coming from a place I was curious to see Dallas you being starting pitcher j hey you being a big numbers Guy me being a fan of the game it it felt at the end of the day J I think one thing that we got out of the top of the show here is we just broke some news Major League baseball teams have been in contact with here's a bullpen game and for the Yankees it makes a ton of sense because if you only have Paxton Tanaka Severino and you feel like your best leave you're not playing in the card game because you can't talk that shit because we know exactly where this is headed it's headed right to the top so there's a difference between being a messenger how but the thing that I kind of wanted to discuss off the top is game six and having a bullpen game on both sides I might have the marlins not going door yeah I feel like I feel it's a two way street though like he's he's using us for leverage with Major League teams and against Boston on the scenes thing that no one even really realizes he still coming up with the game plans for for the pitchers and the catchers and all this like he's still were doing all the numbers he still looking at at everything and coming up with these option 'cause they have a great bullpen is to go with the bullpen game sure they try your luck it's it's it's elimination game you go with your best option and I felt like a bullpen game in a pipeline you have to learn how to walk that line and that's the difference between some guys who understand that some guys who don't share stops with payroll all right because that's why they were searching the way they researching and that's why they were looking in the areas or in the corners for the Yankees was their best option to survive that day but it just it just seems odd and I guess in the last I think as we and you guys know that I have been vocal about this very thought that people are starting to realize starting to circle back Jay no I was going to say do you feel like you're being used as leverage right now like the starting nine podcast brand like Dallas listen you want this hot fire to continue like I feel like going back like the point was yes it feels weird now to see a game six a chance to go to the world series and we see OPA McVeigh head coach for the rams like these are young individuals who are leaders of men were poised in in that situation to potentially be leaders of men you're looking at different numbers in these numbers sort of derived from the moneyball theory where it's like when you're the as back in two thousand one two thousand two you're looking at different st mystic's to find value players out there like you're looking at on base percentage instead of instead a batting average that worked back then but now it's like okay well but now how valuable is that guy how valuable is that line especially in October six three how I mean come on you're looking finding different ways to win there were outside the box and over time we gravitated towards a lot of that a lot of the moneyball thing though it starts it happens to be a bullpen game then then give yourself the best chance to win and I feel like that's you know it's not it's not exactly moneyball but money essentially was around two falling in love with the starting pitcher and what it means to get somebody who can give you that quality start that was being shit on five two teams going with the bullpen game it's the first time I feel like that it's like that's weird but could this be something that we just see more of more often there's a lot I guess to dive into as pertains to the ACS and how it played out the first thing that I guess sticks out to me it's not the most important it's not going to be the most talked Washington nationals the AFC ESCO is six games A few thoughts on the AL CS year the Fr- I mean your fourth guy maybe your swing man's going to get the call on that day see what we can get out of him go to the bullpen and then if we need to or are in a position to for three to four guys out of the bullpen who can give you that now that guy's represented or that body of work is represented in one guy so it was it used to be the two three years now we are going back on traditions because it's like well if you have a better option than go to the better option I mean yeah sure you have a starting pitcher but if you have a better option and that this years ago and I'm someone who personally said like equality start six three let's call it seven and two that's a quality start seven to maybe something beyond that but chops are as prevalent as as important as they've ever been sure Jay your thoughts on a dueling bullpen game and Games which one of our horses or we're going to run out there for like the last two innings because he saying fuck it I'm not letting this ballgame get out of hand it we've got a chance to win I'm GonNa Max Scherzer by either team that the Yankees one or the astros loss or sorry the Yankees Lost Astros one because like the bullpen strategy didn't play off for the eight from some corner and this was like listen I just I get a lot of garbage on my feet like anybody else while I'm watching these games but like I saw some people blaming analytics quote unquote for the that they were looking in because there weren't a lot of people interested in those series Jerry X. Like when you're looking at free agency now and Tanaka was outstanding Severino it was just the Yankees didn't have an answer offensively it's not like the Astros returned the cover off the ball he hasn't done a fucking thing which has been disappointing the you know it was really just Jose Altuve a for the Astros offensively the Yankees I mean they had and for as much as everyone made about the Yankees rotation that's not will cost them the series either I mean you know Paxton showed up his second time around the perfect it's definitely trump and world series yeah yeah speaking of the world series the Houston Astros are moving on to face he's approach to this and if you wanna say that they made a mistake not going out and getting themselves a frontline starter at the trade deadline or in the off season that's a separate conversation to me they could've used for other guys that that could have helped contribute at least offensively but yeah at the end of the day I think even if you're a Yankee fan wants was the way to go and I know I didn't get a lot of controversy but I also think that the astros deciding to deploy their pen the way that they'd it is well saving Garrett Cole for game seven was awesome the right call yeah it was incredibly and honestly man like to me it wasn't a fault of strategy the hand that they were dealt themselves partially by themselves I think starting the game with their bullpen which we've been talking about as a strength of the team for months and months they just they didn't have what it what it took to stack up against Houston when Houston had homefield advantage of best of seven series. This and I'm going to go punch out the Sideburn inning let's move onto tomorrow like that's kind of healthy not now may why because you've got the ability to match up down there well and you also need to be able to be a messenger from that field to the front office and there's a difference between being a messenger and a pipeline shares a pipeline you have to be able to look at what happened in this series and acknowledged that the Astros were the better team you shouldn't feel slighted you shouldn't feel cheated is it a disappointment yeah I mean I think with with the way that the Yankees season played out they were dominant team from start to finish the regular season and get over the hump which is the Astros and so it should be an interesting off season for them do you think that if the Yankees back I like Scott Beuller any baseball agent now or you go to an arbitration hearing and you're you're a team that's trying to pay player less or you're an agent is trying to get your player more as you said remove that from them keep yourself essentially in the same spot up pensively and are adding to what you're I guess losing in C he's a free agents about the is retiring enroll mind whatever but they have some names that are coming up on free agency and Chapman can opt out a lot of it was basically Jose Altuve a and now is it I was incredibly disappointed in in Dallas mentioned earlier your Don Alvarez I thought that this postseason was going to be his coming out party a short you got DJ at second you can avoid it first and then Miguel Landa heart comes back to play third but even if you fix that or at least address just this is where hello who's there Mr Velocity that's who makes it real tough on you everybody down there has got ninety eight to one zero wiping out with secondary stuff so the man your free agent situation and you bring back the guys that you feel need to come back to to make another run at this you're still you know that you you're missing some pieces if you want to I mean obviously it's it's something you have to strongly consider because if this is somebody who shows up twice in a seven game set and drives that dagger in your heart both times and then up the brinks truck for Garrett Cole that's just the answer just one guy does that does that get them over the Hump I mean because it is you also are subtracting Garrett Cole from the Astros in the process we value on base percentage a lot more than we did before and guys are getting paid more money because of the on-base percentage and the OPN whatever else off home runs they are walk off home runs another question before we move on we were talking about this in the office today because they're the juice balls during the season yes there is some where do we go from here discussion I feel like we could we could talk about that too because you know you've got Dylan Betances as a free agent Gardner's a free agent D he's win the series because I mean I think that that's a very legitimate question to ask I am tempted to say yes I mean you would have to go back there's there's I don't I don't see it that way like it was tight it was a game that was tied through the first half of the ninth inning like this baseball right guys I feel like could come back Chapman Gardener I think betances could leave but I I in Didi if DD leaves they're still fine glacier moves six of the I I mean I thought it was the appropriate call I don't like I know there was some there was some complain it's very small yeah a normal baseball what might have been different and I even said I don't know maybe the Indians when the central not as good as the best team in the League or not as good as the team that you lost two in the and still be perfectly good enough to win the world series there was nothing I that was in there were to walk off home runs by the Astros in this series either one of those games just by sheer bounce of balls could go either way yeah twice four to nine plus feet in travel distance just based on the composition of the ball that dd it near homer off Garrett Cole in what was that game three that's gone that's gone with juice bowl definitely gone I mean that's hi this idea that this team was fatally flawed or anything like that it's certainly with with things bouncing a little bit differently game to goes differently like honestly Asian in that division if things stay the same for the Yankees as is right now and I mean the merge they were certainly like you you can be not yeah you have to think that you're in a pretty good spot because I don't know that there's really any I don't know there's any company it's fun to try to take away I mean I don't even know where that question came from I'm assuming it comes from a Yankee fan trying to find any way in clearly the balls are not juice in the postseason if the same baseball's were being used in the postseason do you think the on the youtube channel as well as starting podcast thrive with common she lets us know that there's probably somewhere roughly anywhere I believe from I don't either but if if you if you're building your team your roster on homers in power and then it's like you build that team all year Agean that we would you seek for our tickets because buying tickets can be complicated and confusing but there is a simpler way to buy and that is what seek seek as the Dave Portnoy has to either answer the phone or and or returnee text message and if that is the case then I think we'll have an doc and got the other thing that we were saying was if if they played the regular season with the baseball's that they're using in the postseason I don't know I guess I don't want to say it was too loyal because you know if you have John Carlos Stanton on your roster they wasted roster spots on Suburbia and Stanton career home runs the isn't strong these guys are strong enough to hit the baseball so I don't WanNa hear that Shit Yeah just an interesting thought yeah fuck could beat it answer 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Promo Code starting that is Promo Code starting for ten dollars off your first are playing with one baseball and then you go into the postseason and it's not the same juiced up ball and you've built this team based off of power and homers and you're not strong enough is just oh not the twins game was homers I mean I'm not trying to take anything away from the twins but I I don't know maybe does shake out a little bit different I it's to put the Yankees in the postseason well we were playing with the same base then we'll get a bugger that's my guess I do kind of sympathize with them though because and say the same about then you go into game situation like what was the score that's a whole lot of what ifs ask slow to what if's not to mention the is not strong enough or these guys is labor not strong enough is Dj not strong enough tell me earn Hicks isn't strong enough to listen to you telling me that Brett Gardner he of the SCEKIC helps you find the best seats at the best prices fully guaranteed nothing beats being there in person for the biggest player of the year and seek will get you closer to the the world series I don't know that's just rumors right now I have no idea what's going on with that but if we were to go to DC for one of the world series games I would shen for a great value I have the seek APP on my phone and it's by far the easiest way that I have found to shop for tickets I can be anywhere just a few taps I can instantly find seats seatgeek purchase we've laid the Yankees to rest here today but we gotta talk about this world series because these pitching matchups are as Dallas says they are skin fire worthy so j. hey well people people need to understand right now with this get into existence Dallas this is the series that I think the diehard baseball fan wanted to see these looks like meshed with a hybrid of young explosive talent that just doesn't give a fuck these days and can also needed because I think it's going to be a refresher for what what a brand of baseball that people are clamoring for sort of introduce this I guess new brand of baseball patients long ball we got some athletes folks we've got MVP candidates we've got cy young candidate I have confidence in this team to finish the job I don't think it's going to be easy I mean I I definitely think it's a it's a six game series at least cheered you WanNa know what sells tickets what's that patty cake doesn't sell tickets no no Ludvig champion the recent world series champion not defending but they've been there it's fresh could be the net stabilize I'll be honest Dallas or we're going to be the sheriff's the Astros are winning the world series again conflict sills tickets oh you got your Astros Corrobos Oh you're picking a fucking Nats Dallas the pitching matchups that that make create a October legends astras I got the Astros I think so I think that match Shire's I think that map shares tenacity I think that Stephen Strasberg's Stephen Strasburg it's on both sides in both dugouts right now if you can't get over this series right now you don't have a fucking heartbeat period reach speed you and your astros go up telling you right now said Greeky you better pack a fucking lunch Oh wow you better figure it out and I'm talking yesterday all right it's easy for sure I can agree with you and I've got three we got big three right we got Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin yeah you don't even doubt Sanchez either you take in which big three are you right now is it gonna be the is it going to be the nats the net stabilize prosper twenty-two such outings as well on the flip side of that Justin verlander horse twenty four outings talking about Justin bieber lender Garrett goes that Greeky you counter with Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin so I say to you gentlemen on the shut the ball absolutely is absolutely is but I don't think people are having the conversation you know about edible Sanchez and Wade Miley intoe when we're because to me smells like I don't know what smells like a smells like a paper here which I'll show you and Jay it doesn't line up with what I just said because that's no fun I say what I wrote let the nasty boys get too early they get too early corrobos like a name that could spell trouble that's a cute name like that that's Cute Plus Bullets Garrett Cole enough said twenty three of those same outings Zach Greeky and it's like a stinker for Stephen Strasburg and now does it really I know it a stinker smells like ain't happening Yankees all year like you knew you knew that the showdown was looming and they got it and and obviously wasn't a part of that all year but sure this is the bigger stage something right now that is Kinda true but I also will probably regret saying it but ten twice with Houston ten don't it could spell trouble I'm curious they've got coal lined up game one game two has that been confirmed yet yes Egypt right now by the way is on its best behavior hey guess douse you smell that it's on its best behavior douse smell that about Septum can you like playing and beating the Yankees is the bigger stage like I feel like if you're the astros like it's it's probably in your head like you've been thinking about the all right Sherzer eighteen ball games this year with a hundred pitches or more actually twelve in a row he went out and through one hundred plus pitches Stephen on both sides. MVP CANDIDATES ON MVP front runners essentially on both sides so that's why I said this is a series at the beginning it does I mean I think in a lot of ways this is the most attractive world series matchup that we could have gotten of an air let out of the tire on the National League side so people gravitated towards this series of the Yankees and Astros and then because I mean there wasn't a ton of height coming out of the NFL because the dodgers were the team that was going to be there and everybody was like I mean give me the dodgers can easily stay on the Astros Bandwagon there in my division dramatic sense for me to latch on to the Al Wes champion the American once that happened and that's are the ones who come out of the NFL and now you've got this young like I said you've got cy young candidates let's that's not their world series this is absolutely their world series the world series I understand that there was energy surrounding getting to the world series I would wonder is there any thought to Greeky and the struggles what struggles though I mean he only gave up one earned run reese has an opportunity to provide j. your thoughts on these these pitching matchups does it does it give you a little tinguely feeling office aid has let me tell you what these boys here Stephen Strasburg what the conversation that we were having was about which big three hour taking if I would show you to see you know plenty of other I think the Yankees would've been compelling at different points in the season but this this three or four man I'm sure it was in his head like a fuck I got a pin Yankee stadium like I feel like to them that was their world series and they handled it quite well I didn't need to watch severino potentially struggle through a game and just the bullpen bullpen. I didn't need that I wanted to be remembered what Asian on each side is just in terms of looking forward to each and every game there's something to latch onto and game looks like when it's done in a fashion that that looks like baseball or looks like what the game of baseball has resembled the tide hasn't changed that much pitching his important having great starting pitchers is really helpful to trying to get to the world series this why are you interested in this else I'd like to see them giving everything that they have I liked to see the potential for epic greatest went before any game starts like if Chad Green is on the mound usually a random tournament and a lot of these years because I've seen people talk about Oh you know the royals built the bullpen plan and that's out and now it's back to starting pitching I think you had no interesting you didn't know you needed you didn't know you wanted it and by the end of it it's going to be the series that you're like this is what I needed I needed every bit of this right now and that's no fun what else we'll tell you is you've got some guys in Strasbourg ensures or who are of the mindset that they want to get deep they wanna take that base last time I yeah it was like four and two thirds but he limited the damage quite a bit I mean it's it's for tooth and this is this is the bigger stage that was to get here game potentially looks like compared to a game and say I mean I I like to see these guys giving everything it's just like anything and always and they're plenty of cases for arguments for others you know getting Kunia and Albee's and those guys on the biggest stage that certainly would have been fun it would have been fun the Yankees I'm here for Gimme the dodgers and the Astros I'm here for didn't matter people didn't care well now the that is Kinda gone out the window I feel like there was sort of we can agree that that was the right strategy for the Yankee to also agree on the fact that like there is at least some level of mystique that is that is removed like in the recent past like today's baseball regular season baseball is very different I think postseason baseball something that a lot of people can remember and that's what this get stage aside from their talent level right what makes the starting pitching matchups exciting in terms of what the I don't think there's any denying that the Houston Astros bullpen has been as been wonderful for them aside from aside from the white beater right they do get an egg laid by one of those big three early on and are forced to go to that bullpen that has been great starting pitching matchups Jay why are you interested because those start those are the star players in youtube for these sports to see the best people at their best on the I think that the whole starting pitcher relief it like I think it's a mistake to draw broad conclusions over the results of what is said like two point four and a third or whatever one earned run from Greeky but is an outing like that something you I don't WanNa say plan for uh that's a bad example because there was a walk off home run in the bottom of the ninth inning in that game but like when Justin verlander and Stephen Strasburg or on the mound reassures her and garrison when he's on like I feel like you know we've kind of not we us as a podcast like you know the the people that are watching these these postseason games have forgotten just how four but something you defend against by way of supporting yourself with that off-day on the backside being able to give some of those arms that might have to cover you know his first star in the postseason which wasn't great and then like you know an okay to I guess subpar start against the Yankees is is taxing guys and and looking for more out of them if you were to run into a bump in the road early on tired because then I'd have to answer questions and then boom here he is on the precipice of and it's taken away from him and he's he's humbled he's humbled in a breed I've dealt with what I'm going to be dealing with you know from the nats fans I've been there like because the Yankee fans those are they are like any other fan base they're being sort of a I guess a letdown in energy maybe I zack in his mind thinking I'm not going to have to be dealing with that some things have been great we'll hairs Joe Smith guys have been sexy Yeah I just I think that's where trouble could start to arrive the way that they behave the shit that they say like you see the videos there's no punches pulled man they just don't care they just don't care so maybe there's something to that Zack's mind where he's like you know what dude isn't performance we're way beyond that regular season at this point and something you brought up was just the pitching against the Yankees and the anticipation of that I told you that twenty four twenty three for Coal Tinky the reason that I question her I'm curious about the Greeky performance is because and this is kind of damn man like Yeah J. We got some fucking questions we gotta tackle here the World Series is upon us Jay was in the kitchen cooking up some nuggets it's a completely different atmosphere a different ballgame I can get back to being me and tune in all these assholes out and slice and dice I hope that's the case I really do because sequence of those guys and and and here's the thing is if if if grew so just to give you the number one hundred Pitch Outings Justin verlander twenty four did I tell you fucking good Zach Cranky really is it's fun it's fun jer because he's got a personality that like when he's talking shit about the no hitter like on that would be twelve plus I I I honestly just think Fuckin- due to like we I I feel like too much being made about I believe that the Houston Astros have a more relentless offense and we have seen aw my turn yeah so this is where things get a little dicey for me because I let like if I kind of like cut off the three starter and I'm just like all right do you watch Sherzer do you want Cole I'm taking coal do you want Strasbourg do you want Berlin I'm taking land eating into some of the questions that you posed to us on the rundown is what is a concern I guess a concern for the Astros is what if they enough to get to those three before nationals offense would be able to get to moment where he's like yeah you know actually kind of would have been cool and I'm glad that that happened because I would love for him to get back to being the cocky asshole is like you know you can take your no hitter uh shit fuck I don't know as you want do you want me to go no I'm I'm sticking with the fucking I answer to one of them which front three of the rotation you taking right now Kover lander cranky or Sherzer Strasbourg Corbin. Let's get it on the record jared who's taken but really have to put in a blue collar effort and I think the Houston Astros offense might be just deep enough and just relentless so I am I am taking the Houston Astros Big Three Oh put up taking the shut up your ass I'm I'm just not doing the interview after that man on really good but I don't WanNa do that I like that guy I enjoy that mentality will there is a picnic to the story that could be told that just couldn't exist when we're talking about bullpen irs and six or seven relief pitchers trotting in throughout the game for later in the show but right now we get some questions we gotta take care of we sure do that was really one of them that was a long answer thorough thorough Max Scherzer at times dominate with ease and we've seen Max at times sort of I don't WanNa say struggle to dominate feel it's it's hard to pick the astros but then pick the nats rotation I sorta get what you're going I know Yeah Yup and they're just star players it's the reason we like to see one Soto like I want to see one Soto play I wanNA see Ronin Bregman Alto Vay and I also WanNa see the pitching I think you know what I'm GonNa stick with Juan Soto it's one soda why because it's I guess we'll save that for later I'm taking the Astros Who is the single most dangerous offensive player in this series in there you look at the wins above replacement he was like a top fifteen pitcher in the fucking league this year it's like yeah that's pointed dandy but like those are regular season numbers and that's regular just put a bow on my answer and factoring in what I mentioned to you jared about the mindset shift not face the Yankees facing a team that just doesn't it's not so I know it is just one guy because that's what the question a single most follow the rules if wile like if if you ask me if you were to phrase it differently right you have the nationals roster you have astros roster and those the only Indian has a good question I say there's two guys and it's like do you want Corbin did you want cranky I want Corbin but like two to one taken the Astros Jerry Hill but I feel like once Soto has just been consistent and I can I'm going to side with consistency here give me one Soto Fair enough as you can pick from you have a first round pick who taken I'm taking Bregman but he was cold in the AOL CS I don't expect that to continue it's it's obvious and you're right jeered and then I was going to transition to ren don't because it's guys that have don't give a shit has been on Alvarez that's my guy every single time that you're done Alvarez came up to the plate and that series against the Yankees Assignment Duterte lucky to have me to boy lucky I chose to show up to four years the most dangerous hitter in this series in how the combative Fan Base Ghost there's no ghosts you're not battling with a very very very good team but but if there's one guy on both sides and I'm just like trying to will into existence like let's see the guy that we saw all season the three of adjust overlander a Garrett Cole and again that Green Tea is the wildcard here but I active in what name arose it was Carlos Correa why Carlos Correa because he's been hitting at the bottom of the lineup but he's been hitting behind another a young man who has struggled mightily as well and that is the most important player offensively in my mind I was heavily Wayne on one Soto and it's obviously because of the glaring hole I to take in when he lays into a ball when he leans on one it it is it's special to watch and the Sal Oh so I'm sticking with the Stroz Garrett Cole is the best fucking pitcher on planet Earth Jv right behind him Zach Cranky Arrow I'm going to get from him in this series I really don't and he just it just never happened I I'm not saying like okay so that is going to happen in the world series it's only GonNa get more difficult with with the three hundred monster that the nats have because it's easy to pick an L. Tubay springer I think the guy who was really helped this lineup stay as long as it has all year long it's guys that were in the world series I didn't realize that Anthony don't give a book and it was because it's your Don Alvarez he's so fucking fun to watch when he's hot and he just hasn't been hot talk season it's a ridiculous physical visuals lcs if you're playing like that is bad obviously both very dangerous my pick is Alex Bregman Okay John Alvarez had one of the All Time Bad LCS performances one for twenty two with twelve strikeouts normally you don't get that many at bats and the world series combined to go four thirty eight with Nineteen strikeouts in the Lcs Juan Soto Lcs three for sixteen with seven strikeouts quote unquote if you had to pick one for the Astros and one concern for the nationals bullpen for the nats that's an easy one la maybe it's not glaring is it fair to say glaring in regards to the performance for Soda Yes okay he he is has been good to but I mean there's a lot of right handed threats in that Astros Lineup for Houston that's the guy that you're going to have to rely on to kind of pick up the slack right so then I ventured over to the astros land and I started thinking about it from that kind of same how did you phrase the question the weaknesses yeah just a weakness or a concern of yours in twenty six total plate appearances eighteen at bats so obviously all of the skills that make Alex bregman either the MVP or the runner up in the AL the they become dangerous why maybe because they haven't been sure sure injured the dead cat bounce I get it because my guy would be yeah I think I think just based on how you laid that Al j what jared and I did was probably pick somebody that needs to perform like this person performs I was like this is the bat this is the at Bat I like if he was going to snap out of it I was like this is going to be four hundred eighty foot tank and then he's going to go springer if that's the case well first pitch I think tough I think Bregman unpicking some Altoona or some guy who's been Super Hot Alex I'll never accuse you guys have recency bias given that the two people you just picked as the most dangerous in the LCS have combined to go four or the most and even with thirty forty thousand people in the building it's going to sound different folks it is trust me it's just so different so I will picking MBP candidate nobody Julius came off L. C. S. whereas branch is zero homers one rbi he had very weird lcs he had a one sixty seven. There's no like go to Yankee Stadium and they're like on top of you

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2343 - Understanding Pandemic Monetary Policy w/ Nathan Tankus

The Majority Report with Sam Seder

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2343 - Understanding Pandemic Monetary Policy w/ Nathan Tankus

"You are listening to a free version of majority report with Sam Cedar to support the show and get another fifty minutes daily program good Jordi Dot S. M. Please draw it is Monday. May Eighteenth Two thousand twenty. My Name is Sam Cedar. This'll be five time award. Winning majority report. We are broadcasting live steps and steps and steps from the industrially ravaged the wants canal in the heartland of America downtown Brooklyn. Usa on the program Today Nathan. Tank the modern money network research director on what we're going to do and what we're doing to mitigate massive depression meanwhile trump fires the State Department inspector general. Was It really about dog? Walking in fact about a near complete investigation into the fast tracking of arm sales to Saudi Arabia. Also on the program. Today on Friday. Democrats passed the biggest. Most UNAMBITIOUS relief bill ever. They do however change the rules to allow for remote voting which is the first time. 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Well he passed away Very Funny Guy I don't know that I ever had an opportunity to meet him if I did. It was very brief but I just As a comedian always had a lot of appreciation of the work is done so All right well. Let's move on I was planning about talking about that later. But just what you can do all right. Let's move on to Some which I'm sure we all in many respects would would like to be able to completely Divorce ourselves from reality That existing now a lot of hardship out there. There's going to be a lot more coming. Ah both in terms of of Health problems and deaths and economic hardship. The Tom Clear at this point. You know where we're at in terms of that That economic hardship. We will talk more about that with Nathan Tangkas but in the meantime here is Eric Trump on a day where we've basically lost I think As of yesterday probably eighty seven thousand Americans were up to close to ninety thousand Americans Who have passed away as of today. We are at best twenty five percent Infection rate in New York at best of five seven percent. The rest of the country at best Hopefully we'll get some treatments that will deal with this. But here's our trump basically explaining that this is all basically a hoax. Still they're still saying this seventy six days to be exact away and listen fight loves. This Biden can't go on stage without making some horrible blunder. I mean even from his basement. He's making ofo gaffes every single day so his campaigns thrilled that he's not going out there and they think they're taking away donald trump's greatest tool which is being able to go into an arena. Fill it with fifty thousand people every single time right so they they will and you watch. They'll milk it every single day between now and November third and guess what after November Third Krona virus will magically all of a sudden go away and disappear and everybody will reopen. They're trying to deprive him of his his greatest asset which is the fact that the American people love him the fact that he's relatable the fact that he can go out there the draw massive crowds. Joe Biden can't get ten people in a room. My father's getting fifty thousand in a room and they want to do everything they can to stop it so make no mistake to a lot of them. Janine to a lot of them. This is a very cognizant strategy that they're trying to employees no different than again. The nonsense that there's Ryan throw in the hope act. It's no different than the mail in voting that they want to do all of these places. It's no different than wanting illegal immigrants to vote in our country. It is a cognizant strategy and it's it's sad and again it's not gonna be allowed to happen and we're GONNA win November. Think about the the level of pathology in insanity involved in going on national television in every single human being who is involved in bringing that to you. I mean almost down to the sound engineers. That are that are just sitting there and just like don't have the You know I look I. They've got jobs. Do I can understand that but the idea that the the head the the I guess the stay at home orders are a strategy by Democrats to help Joe Biden. How insane you have to be to. Actually I mean I I I mean I don't know how insane you have to beat actually believe it but the question is how insane do you have to go and say that on television in front of people? This is a strategy Democrats. Don't control anything can certainly don't control any of the states that I mean. I guess it's Wisconsin. They don't control Wisconsin. They think this is all strategy. Don Trump can't do a rally in Long Island or in Albany or in or in a la. It's not this is this is what a suicide call it. Looks like and you know. We'll never know if the leader of this called and his family actually believe this stuff or not. We won't know I suspect though that they will not be The you know the one sipping on that kool-aid when that happens but let's just bizarre And I I don't know on the second way is gonNA head. I don't know if it's GONNA WE'RE GONNA see spikes on these States that have opened up in the near term but at one point or another just like you could see that data Sean Hannity. These people are going to be responsible for the deaths of of thousands of people and maybe also At the the economic deprivation. Because they will have we will at one point have to go back in to clean up the damage in a way that is far more intense than we're experiencing now to clean up the damage that these people are creating unbelievable. They're not really nuts couple of ads and then We will speak with Nathan tanks. Tank us For All I'll say I'll say excuse me for all our sakes be to avoid crowds in any way we can right now. 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It's a pleasure to welcome to the program Nathan tank as he is the research director of the modern money network and here to Nathan appreciate your coming on the program. Thank you very much for having me. You've been I know that what you were doing prior to Kobe nineteen had to do with a looking into the sort of the I. Guess the The the monetary policy. That would be behind a green new deal. You shifted over to talking about the response. The feds response to To Cove nineteen are you know. I don't. I don't know what we would call this from an economic perspective but The the the fallout from a pandemic. I guess and I know that You're not you're not an economist per se. But you've You your research on. This has been you know. You're you're getting quite a bit of a claim for for the work. You're doing And you're you're used to speaking to people who are very well versed in economics. Well today you're going to elementary school For the rest of US But before we get there I mean. Let's let's let's start with just. Was You. Just tell us what the modern Monte network is and and and just tell folks about like the Post Keynesian I guess a school of thought of money. Yes sure So the modern money network is Non Nonprofit Five. Oh One three. That's focused on education around Money and economics especially the interrelations gene economics and law from a macro perspective. Looking at money looking at employment Looking at Price stability focusing on you know these these kind of big macroeconomic issues And education around money. There tends to be not very much around like my money is kind of like that. We live our whole day Talking about but it's the mechanics of it. How it works. You know in the plumbing behind the scenes isn't something that is necessarily Taught at any level All the way down from you know elementary school high school all the way up to undergraduate a law school graduate school and The amount of money were network started at Columbia Law School as a way of generating education around money and finance and thinking that money and macroeconomics with something that was important for everyone to know about but especially the people who essentially design the system lawyers right and so in the and the idea being that you know I guess more sort of lay people on some level or theoretically I you know I the thing that I that we see a lot is where people just freak out and say they're printing money out of thin air as opposed to what. Yeah exactly you know. There's a perpetual shock at how the system works at a very basic level. You know I think you know we have so little Literacy around money that you know if you ask. A lot of people about half of them would think that that the money that is out there is backed by a bunch of gold at Fort Knox And like you know the morning you probably get more education about how money works like from bond movies than you do in any other part of your life and that's not exactly a great education terms how money works and so we have these perpetual forgetting and then every crisis you know suddenly there's a lot of attention on what the Federal Reserve doing what Talkers Congress is doing and suddenly. There's this sudden realization all in all these questions around these issues and then I forget it and the modern modern Monday work was founded After the last of the Great Financial Crisis To try to keep that flame alive and try to Put out their materials on educating about money so that people have more money literacy when these big crisis happened and we should say I mean. This is associated with modern monetary theory correct. Yeah they were. All Close. Colleagues of set of economists Professor Stephanie Kelton Scott Beuller so on many others Well definitely close associate and closely working with them. Also focus a little bit more of a focus on on the legal side and the legal analysis of things and on you know Into and kind of expanding out this project to be more interesting and more deeply rooted in law. Okay in folks can go back. And if they google Majority Report Stephanie. Kelton we've had her on Three or four times And we've gone through the specifics of this It was years ago but Still obviously of the same and I. So let's let's just talk about. Just give us a sense of what is money. I mean for you know The just I guess. Let's just start with there then you then we'll get into what the Fed is has been doing. What is new that the Fed is doing that? They haven't done before. And what the implications are but just give us this this this this this basic understanding of what of what money is and go slow through the parts with the accounting. Yeah so At the most basic level money is a tax credit. It's a tool that we used to To settle our obligations. What the government you know you show up you know you have a fine fee or you have a tax bill. You have to pay that in some way and this. This is a step so obvious that we overlook it but it's actually kind of everything it's crucially important. You know what whatever you can pay your taxes with. You know makes that thing that you can pay your tax with really valuable you can tell you. Pay Your taxes with pigs pigs or something really valuable. You can pay your taxes but checking chickens something really valuable so at this most fundamental level. Money what what is money Is something that you can settle your obligations with whether it's the core whether it's the stage whether it's another private actor but it's all determined by legal systems you know court says what you can pay your pay your obligation with a court you know adjudicates you know a contract dispute and says you know what is what is an appropriate way to settle the contract between two all So from Mt View from the Modern Monetary Theory View. It's that ability to sell settle obligations that make something money and what were the ability to convert it into convert. Whatever items have something that you can Your pay your taxes with essentially also fines fees or events so just to be clear here In this also and this is for my libertarian. Friends this comes from a an entity having a monopoly of force and sang and decreeing. This is how we're going to settle your. We're we're going to impose that's on you The taxes And like you say fees and other things like that from the government and this is the only thing or one of the things. This is what we will take to call us even here and so without taxes And I guess presumably fees and whatnot but without government obligations in terms of what we must pay to the government in some fashion or another the money we would have has no value it becomes like a I guess like a a crypto currency which has value only to the extent that people will buy it in the same way. That like baseball cards do Or those Puka shells at like you know when you go to like a all encompassing you know Vacation place or something like that and you can use it at the bar. It's only where they agree. On some level right but in terms of universality within society and in certain instances outside of the society is just a function of what the government will take to square your debts with the Government. Okay and sway. It's whatever you can use to get even right and And and that that concept of getting even becomes really important in this concept of accounting right. Yes absolutely because the other fundamental thing about these relations is that one entities or persons i. Iou You another person's asset so that you know whether it's cash in their hand or a government security that is something that is an IOU it's a debt of the government and an asset to us. It's something we hold. It's something that's worth money to us. But it's a debt to them the differences. You know you know our debts you know don't generally have a lot of money. That's I usually can't pay someone By disrupting take you and say you know I love you. Know Nice. Great Five Star restaurant you have. I love this Neil. Here's my view you know. Enjoy that But with the government you you essentially have that government can just emit a bunch of bio can can send out checks that you know you get a nice little Balanced statement and but all that balancing really tells you is that you have some us from the government but you're happy with that because you and your taxes you pay for judgment and ultimately because all these you know sets payments are denominated in dollars you know other. People who sell goods and services also accepted everywhere. Will you make that a government? I you you make that more tangible like when do we see government you when did we. I you know like in the course of our daily lives like what what. Oh okay pocket. If you open your pockets you take out a note right now and we'll say The Federal Reserve note it'll be signed by a Federal Reserve official and a Treasury official and It will say that you know it's accepted for all obligations public and private You know it. It's the that the most basic level the physical cash in your pocket is in the federal government and the federal government dislike issues. These I owe us and they become Valuable to trade because because the government ultimately is going to require Is something of value from everybody. You're giving it to or could give it to and therefore it never actually has to be anything other than a promise to pay because ultimately you're paying it back to the to the government and the government is like yeah are promised to pay. We're GONNA pay ourselves. You know it relies on the. Is this whole set of payments that you and settle in dollars so it never has to offer you anything else. It doesn't eat arpaio. We'll give you this nice shiny object if you turn it in it. You will settle your tax bill and we won't put you in jail or you'll be able to settle your your your debt with you know with your ex wife for whatever it is it gives you the ability to settle whatever obligations that you encounter in this society better court ordered and such and you know that badly so valuable compete old impact it so valuable that we heard it that we accumulate as much as we can For fear of whatever future obligations are expensive. That we're GONNA look okay and so we are. Just tell us the relationship between debt and savings Because I I want to just get all these basic sort of like attendants down before we go into what the Fed is doing. Because I think it'll help you know to make sure that we're all on the same page as it were And so the corollary of all this that you know the government's. Iou Is our assets. There you know is that you know at a at an aggregate level for every financial asset is also in turn someone's financial obligation so as a result when the government run a deficit when the government spends more than it takes in there must be corresponding surpluses out there whether that's households or businesses or state local governments or the rest for the rest of the world. Someone has to be getting more dollars than they're giving up. Essentially If if the federal government is deficit spending so that's always money in someone's pocket always you know increasing someone you know. Level of financial assets when the government runs a deficit and vice versa. And the flip side is when the government is running a surplus. Usually that means. We're running so we you. We're spending much more than we're we're taking in when the Thurbers are when that's better shirt when the federal government is running is running. A SURPLUS. That surplus is literally taking money out of our pockets. Okay so so so right now I want I. I really want this slow down even on this in because like I can get those words. I can remember those words and I've I've stated the myself but I really want people to understand this From a conceptual standpoint so the government borrows money and it has debt and ord spends more than it has right. Like how it? It's it's spending. Its not spending more than half because it really has an unlimited potential. I guess right of money theoretically and and it it spending more than it has because it's spending more than it's taking in from it says right and you know say that way for for ease but even though the US government probably takes him money. Like I'm taking in fees from non-citizens whatever. Let's say that it's taking in. Its its spending more than it's taken in and it's doing that by either printing the money or by simply issuing. I O used by some other form like you know not necessarily verbal but some other instrument. That doesn't look like cash. It it could be just We we have a an electronic I owe you and the the that that that tender is we just put it in your bank account So boom you're numbers are up because we have a relationship with the bank so and that's what it means when they're spending money they don't have That there's that much more savings on the other side because the equilibrium is what the government takes in from the its citizens and then spent it out if it spends out so it takes in ten spends out ten. There's an equilibrium but if it takes ten and spends out twenty that extra ten has to be somewhere in it necessarily if it's not what the government has to be with the citizens. Yeah Yeah I mean if if the most of most vulnerable that's true there's some complicated with the rest of the world but if you just take you know you know like the late in just one country forget about the rest of the world you know. Government spends a thousand dollars and collect nine hundred dollars in taxes. Some person or group of people have to have collectively a hundred dollars leftover. That's just you know. Cash they have on hand money in a bank account that they have on hand there has to be some surplus. That people have that people have that corresponds to the federal government's deficit. And you know the fundamentally we WANNA you know. We WANT TO ACCUMULATE FINANCIAL ASSETS. If we want to make sure that we have a bunch of savings that can protect us in a in a in a crisis And not be so deep so deep in debt ourselves than you know than the federal government probably going to be the one that has to Deficit spending in order so that in order for there to be money in our pockets and or collectively the corporate America and households altogether Something like that has to be the case right now. I just want to go through the other way where the government has a surplus that means that they take in nine hundred dollars and instead of spending a thousand and instead of spending nine hundred they only spent eight hundred so the government is tighten. Its belt as it were and now they have an extra dollars but that extra hundred dollars means that it is. There's there's there's one hundred dollars less circulating around in the private sector and that means that people had to go into debt. Somebody had to or maybe you know Everybody had to go into debt by a penny or whatever point oh one of a penny or something to pay their bill to the government. Yeah Yeah Yeah they've they have a absolutely usually they have to Get collectively get into more debt to pay. There's some unique time periods where people have just so much cast that the government running a surplus just takes cash out of the hands rather than putting them into that after World War. Two the deficits were so big. And we're were to that when you had a couple of periods where They ran surpluses in the federal government. Surpluses in the nineteen forties early fifties or whatever. What that did was just took cat cash. That people had accumulated during the war. There was nothing there was so much slack in the system that it just basically was working on slack and then ultimately tightened up and and but the slack went away over the decades. And that's that's like a one of these big conceptual points is that we have these huge deficits during World War. Two where everyone essentially humiliated where a had a bunch of money on hand whether they were businesses or corporations and that gave system a lot of flexibility times when the federal government one surpluses and it wasn't going to cause huge problems but over time that period the. Did we kept on having these periods where we ran relatively small budget deficits and overtime the private sector more and more into Into debt? And we you know reached the high private debt levels that we did in the great eventually in the great financial crisis and an after okay and so and then one other point here in an. It's WanNa make sure that we make a distinction between sort of tax policy as it were and the idea of like of of taxation because the government doesn't need to tax to spend money and we've just said they can basically just issue. I owe us and that's what they do They don't need the money issue. The I us But but taxing is really about a making sure that the money has value if there were no taxes. The government required no taxes. No fees from us Then all of a sudden the money would be. We were just rely on the fact. That everybody agrees. We're going to spend this. But then eventually people will start catching ongoing like wait a second. We don't need dollars to pay taxes. Maybe these you know The Cedar bills are good. Or whatever it right yeah exactly and and we should also say that taxation is of you can deal with like wealth inequality or whatnot. This is really and we're talking about the federal taxes here because when we talk about state and local taxes that doesn't have an impact That is have implications for my for monetary policy because in the same way because they're just subsidiaries of the federal government. Yeah okay Though the the big thing I would say though is state local governments are something that the federal government has to take into account when they're deciding on their spending policy on their tax policy. Because you know you people might look at the federal government number and be like Oh that deficit so big but generally usually you know outside of Hugh traces like this state and local governments are running surpluses and the Federal Reserve. The federal government has to offset for that that it has to you know if if the state and local governments are running surpluses than the deficit that the federal government runs has to be even larger in order for you and I to experience plus or the or the businesses to surpluses. And that's you know that's the huge problem. Right now is that you is that these because tax revenues have collapsed across the board state. Local governments have lost all all this money. They need money directly from the federal government to To get them out of their fiscal troubles. Okay until let's just be clear. We have fiscal and monetary policy. These are to basically They're they're they're related but they're not the same. We'd just do make that distinction clear to people because we're going to be talking about WE'RE GONNA be talking about monetary policy as opposed to fiscal policy. Right in this conversation for the most part. Yeah so Fiscal Policy is what we were. We just talking about spending and taxing It's what you know gives us surpluses. The government runs the deficit We we get a surplus now as we've just been talking about. Monetary policy is eat is different because monetary policy doesn't directly affect whether you whether people are running surpluses or deficits instead monetary policy about the terms at which they can finance their debts finance their deficit. It you know monetary policy is. We're going to buy a whole bunch of government. Bonds to lower interest rates. Monetary policy is talking about is. We're going to buy a whole bunch of bonds from the corporate sector to lower the interest rate that they that they pay and make sure they have access to find monetary policy is by the debt to state. Local governments. Made sure that they Lower the interest rate that they pay And that they can find finance but that isn't that isn't Mean that they don't have you know That suddenly have a surplus when they did have a deficit. When you you know conduct monetary policy when you do these and sales instead it's just affecting the financing which is important but it can't replace loss inside. That's that'll be previewing something. We'll talk a lot more about is that you know the now you can have all the monetary policy in the world. But if you but if you know a company has lost a whole of income and has a big deficit the MON monetary policy won't make that deficit. Go Away right it might. It might keep you afloat for a while but wh- at one point you're going to have to deal with it I anticipate clear. Broadly speaking Congress deals with fiscal policy. And the Fed deals with monetary policy exactly and But there's also a relationship between the treasury and the Fed that begins to sort of arguably blur that line a little bit. Yeah so I'd say so you know. I just described monetary policy as her just and failed policy where you purchased financial assets and you sell financial assets out there well. The Treasury when spends taxes or is involved in the spending attacking process doesn't blur those lines but when he Engaged in sales when it sells financial assets it absolutely is blurring that line and the the time that they do that is when they sell Treasury securities. You know the bat process where you're selling Treasury securities And there's a whole bunch of net issuance out there That if you know that's affecting interest rates for you know for if they sell ten year affects interest rates for ten year bonds and the Federal Reserve has to response. And so you know if you know if the third reserve selling Treasury Securities Monetary Policy even argue. I would make the case that the treasury during that monetary policy and it leads some complications because the Treasury thinks of its job mainly as you know financing Federal spending as making sure that the federal government can Can make its bill and so uses these Treasury securities to do that. Because that's that's the main instrument for a couple of others could name that it can use do that but the Federal Reserve thinks of it as a monetary policy. Thinks of it as these these these Bonds as a way to affect interest rates and that leads to some tension. There's been conflict over the decades between the Federal Reserve and the Treasury over there. Different outlooks over How how how? They should treat how they should deal with writers. Okay so And just to be. Let me just you know reduces down so that. I can understand it the When we say treasuries security we're talking about you know generally speaking like bonds we're going to borrow money and the way we're going to borrow money as we're going to sell You know You know Janet and Steve a bond for one hundred dollars that they're going to get Sam to it for his Bar Mitzvah and in twenty years. It'll be worth one hundred dollars. They paid seventy five. We're GONNA give them interest so basically they're giving us alone The government alone and we're going to pay it back with interest in In twenty years. And Sam's GonNa get this a little Bot- obviously the bonds are a little bit bigger and they get sold to other people. But that's the dynamic that's going on there and when the Treasury starts to sell these bonds they set interest rates on them and they'll do different terms. This'll be a one hundred dollars in ten years or years or twenty years and that impacts. How much money is out there because it allows them. It allows the government to deficit spend and that adds a a surplus in the private sector and therefore it begins to implicate monetary policy that the feds. I it's sort of like the feds arena so it's like feds a big bank but the treasury such big client that they can impo. Impacted is at it a little bit. I one thing I would say there is but I would separate the selling of the of the treasury security from the deficit telling the Treasury security you know will potentially enable them to Deficit spent than the name. Try more. You know meet payments at a later date. But the the selling of the Treasury security itself doesn't affect those balances out there. You know they sell the Treasury security to the private sector the private sector. Say No hanes over cash or hands over posit whatever. It is That's that's exchange of one financial asset for another. Nothing happens in terms of deficit surplus. It's only leader when the federal government goes out and spends that you know it's running a deficit and that's important because we can you know as as I've been running a lot about recently. We can rearrange these relationships. We can you know. Say you know this stupid. Why are we you know having been the Treasury response able for it for for issuing this instrument because you know the the Federal Reserve should really be in charge of of of selling bonds. Because it's the one that's concerned about interest rates. It's the one that wants to set certain interest rates On a ten year bond or a twenty year bond. It's the one that was worried. About how many ten year bonds are circulating in the private sector. It's the one that wants to all these processes and The what would you choose to do? That is different than what the Treasury would choose. And you know this and you know while from the Treasury's point of view it's looking vistas. Oh the national debt that if using the fine it's all but the Federal Reserve and the finance years that the Federal Reserve Act with is looking at a Treasury security and saying this is the safest asset in the world if I want to play if I WANNA put one hundred million dollars somewhere and I wanNA guarantee and I'm not gonNA lose my money. What I want to do is by charter church. No I can't put it in the bank because the bank has insurance has the positive insurance caps. So my my big option if I WANNA make sure that I have one hundred million dollars and I'll have one hundred million dollars in twenty years by buying a bond and that that role of being safe asset of being providing something to To investors is what the Federal Reserve really cares about. And you know the decisions it would make would be different than the Treasury would make in the meantime we can talk about in a bit. You know everyone gets very confused or gets a worried about of the the national debt and thinking about it the way the finance yours and the the the central bankers and and and the reason why I think that my hundred billion dollars is going to be there in twenty years is because the. Us government has the ability to tax a massive population and essentially that is highly productive. And that makes it. The safest bet in the world is that basically and and and and then not only that. But you can that. The federal government will create dollars and absolutely make its payments. No matter what That that you can rely on the federal government is going to Make payments and the money you get to. The end of that process is going to be valuable. Because of the the next the system of of opinions better denominated dollars so many countries around the world that Oh dollars and corporations and banks around the world that does this population in the United States that owes dollars all these different ways that you can not just that you know some jerk crowd is GonNa Who Co print money and you know and provide you money but that that money is probably GonNa have the. It's still valuable. You know ten twenty years down and lastly I mean just This idea You know that that The people in the wake of the Financial Crisis. I remember going on. Tv with David Stockman. Who was the the budget of the Office of Budget Management Director under Reagan and. He would come on and he would say PIMCO. Which is the biggest Bond buyer guess Or One of the biggest bomb buyers in the in the country you know selling their bonds in the the you know by July. We're going to have rampant inflation and Y You know I think this is in two thousand ten or eleven. I can't remember when it was And everything's GonNa crash and there's going to be inflation and people won't want to buy our bonds anymore and so when you say that When people like that are worried about stuff? They're not looking at it. In the way that investors do because none of that those things happened. I made Glenn Beck and this whole. There was a whole industry on it. They're telling us and we're going to turn into the Weimar republic because of quantitative easing and Whatnot. Which is And and and none of that happened so no. The people who bet against Turkish thirties lost a lot of money. And Okay so with all that said tell us what the Fed has been doing now and what it needs to do going forward from your perspective. There have been three major as far as I can tell from from reading you and obviously reading the news there have been three. Major things at the Fed has done some of which is of radically new for the Fed. That's the main street lending program the paycheck protection liquidity facility and the municipal liquidity a program. And then you also talk a lot about alternative accounting but Let's start with. I don't know which one of those do you want to start with. It makes it easy. I think the three the three big ones are That's when I would save instead of the paycheck protection on the corporate credit facilities credit facilities And those yeah. So that's the big picture of the big picture is. The Fed is experimenting with something which isn't completely unprecedented in history. But it's pretty rare which is direct lending small medium sized businesses the mainstream lending program Got These corporate credit facilities which is also pretty unprecedented for them. Which is a buying buying Corporate bonds both on the secondary market meaning from private financier. Who are holding them or speculating on them and directly from corporations And then the the third one is the municipal liquidity facility which is buying state and local government securities and all of these some degree or another are pretty unprecedented for the bad but the main street. Winning program is is is The biggest one is is definitely the biggest Kind of you know outside where it's the most uncomfortable okay. So let's just I wanted to say this to this is not a substitute. Obviously for For fiscal well. It can have some Substitution I guess effects. But we're we're focusing on this but we should also say that. Obviously there needs to be fiscal Actions to Congress needs to support other support people as well in in in spending. But we're just focusing on on this with a fad right now because The government is completely It incapable of getting. Its its craft together on some level and there's more independence by the the Fed. It seems like that's the big picture. Here is the big picture. Here is monetary policy would have a role in this crisis but it the the the focus on it and how much it's doing relative to how much congress and the rest of the federal government is doing completely lopsided. You know the fundamental problem on from a Mac a point of view. You know the you know out The the fallout from the virus. Is that a whole bunch of businesses and households and and also state and local government have lost a tremendous amount of income because the because we could shut down colony because we shut down these public places because people told people have lost their jobs and then knock on their affection. That you know. Millions upon millions upon millions unprecedented level job losses in the last two months in that That process you know the the the thing that we that we ultimately need to deal with that deal with the problem is in co and has just been talked to talk about you know when you know when the federal government runs the deficit The the rest of the economy runs a surplus. We need a much bigger deficits to boss set those income losses And you know you cash in your pocket which they've already done a little bit but much more much more on a much grander scale Then then they're already contemplating but because we've had a politics around Denver decades and decades around deficits being the worst thing in the world. You gotta try to balance the budget Whenever it comes down to a crisis and the and And Congressmen it doesn't spend at at at the scale of what the crime crisis needs it. On what what balancing a senior like. It's doing a lot with The political concerns about the deficit Far Down the far further down the line. And that's our kind of big big problem. Right now is that is that they're doing things like with the pay the payroll protection program which is supposed to be essentially direct grants directly to small businesses It's and it's capping not not for any economic reason why it makes sense for only four hundred billion dollars seven hundred ten billion dollars to go out the door. It's happening that because You know politically if you know. It's very hard for them. To wrap around the mind uncapped program where he for some for Sherman. Everyone gets money and we should say that. Like what what that is. The the the functional equivalent of it seems to me just sort of like holding your breath when you go buy a cemetery or you know like You know like literally. It's it's all. It's it's superstition right. I mean it's just like learned Sir position Because Nancy Pelosi you know I don't know I was friends with Peterson. And and you know was espousing. Pay Go they look at a messaging bill right which doesn't even spend money because they know it's not going to spend money and they're still afraid to have a go over like they're still saying stuff like we're nervous about you know how much money we're spending after three trillion. I mean not all. This is an abstraction. It's literally like you know a thousand years ago. People said you couldn't go into the Forbidden Zone and nobody remembers why and it turns out. Yeah it was just something that just you know big numbers. That are scary. Even though there's no like contacts in terms of like how comedy works or macroeconomics. It's just it's just. These big numbers are better than I can. Imagine and I. We don't spend time really thinking about macroeconomic team at this scale which macroeconomics inches long so suddenly when it comes time that we need to spend a whole bunch of money. People can't wrap their heads around how much money we're talking about or the the scale that we're talking about and that's and that's the kind of big problem that we have these. You know once a decade once twenty years we suddenly know have to talk about this and everyone has to learn a lot all at once and necessarily seems Scary and you know. Can we really do it? That big and so on and so forth and that's the big problem so the Federal Reserve is stepping into that Voi- of the rest of the government not responding so for example the program. We were just talking about main street lending program that program would not have to exist if the payroll protection program was untapped if they provided enough money. That was just you know. Forgivable loans grants to The small businesses as needed new even medium business. Hell you all of all all of the business sector You wouldn't need to provide small and medium-sized size. Loans to Basically provide a bridge loan until they can start making money And that's and that's what the main street leading program is really supposed to. But it's obviously it's loan. It's not the grant. Like or forgivable loan the way the payroll protection program. That's supposed to be And you know it has a little bit in it. It defers came on principle interest for a year. So it gives you a little bit of leeway you know and that's kind of tough unprecedented for the Fed but it's still nowhere near enough And that's kind of the big takeaway from all the Federal Reserve is doing reserve is stepping into doing some fiscal policy. Even though it's very uncomfortable doing fiscal policy by say deferring these the principal and interest on these loans for a year. But it's It's not willing to go the wool for way because Congress has fully authorized to be a fiscal authority. But it feels compelled to do something because the rest of the federal government is missing in action. Okay so just to be clear by deferring interest for a year and is that interest accumulate over the course that you're inter start accruing year out I would have to recheck but I believe that the insurance starts occurring from the from the time of the love. Okay and so by deferring it for year though it is as if it is spending the money so it's sort of like just pretending to be you know like you know like It is it. It's it's doing the sort of mutated version of of of fiscal policy. But in fact it's it's monetary because it's a financial instrument but it's deferring the financial The the the financial aspects of it for a year. So there's one free year of of Muddy F- start paying that money year out but But presumably like it's like the equivalent of A. I don't know a twenty year loan but it's actually twenty one years to pay back essentially Yup okay and that's to make up for the fact that there's been such an anemic fiscal response by the the government. So well when do we like well like? When does the the the the the crap hit the fan like people are walking around their towns now right and they can't? It's hard to determine that store has closed as opposed to. It's just you know taking a break because we're on pause like it feels like we can't quite see the damage yet because I mean I've used this in the past as an analogy like the CE`namas hit the waters. Come in and it hasn't receded enough for us to really see the damage yet. Yeah I mean the thing is this is just been so rapid It's been you know the big picture on New York closed. It's So that it was closing its schools and you know and basically closing down the SA- restaurants and such like March twelfth. I think you know. Of course that was actually the sixteenth. I mean the closed last for schools was thirty was sixteen as of Monday when the closure closure stuff happened. Yeah so that's two months it's just been too much. I mean think about the you know the financial crisis in the great financial crisis you know they anemic taking you know it. Was You know who you know? It was clear to people in financial markets that you know things were going wrong. You know the very latest by March of two thousand eight and we didn't get a char trouble asset really Graham and you know the the big crisis Franz until you know until into the fall. It's like October November. We didn't get the stimulus bill into until a year after like march or April. Two thousand nine In in this you know I talked about the Virtual response but on the scale that they're used to working on this has been rapid. We've done multiple Spending bills within you know this just chew month period of Federal Reserve. Of course. There's announced a flurry of programs over those two months So it's it's the shock has just been so fast and so sudden that I think people are still you know. It's still going to be months and months and months before people really fully like have a grasp over the economic scale. I think most people I don't think are fully grasping what is going on in terms of the employment situation. I mean we've we have a staggering amount of employees of employment. I mean at this point. Thirty percent unemployment Y- it's peak. Seems optimistic it seems like wow you know if you know. The response really goes well. We'll get you know. Just thirty percent unemployment. Which is you know. Obviously Great Depression levels worse than great works. Great Depression levels. Especially with the suddenness of the of the crisis I mean you know it's a two three years before Unemployment got that high during the Great Depression. And so this. Just the the suddenness of it I think people are going to fully realize the kind of economic damage and the destruction of people's lives that we're talking about even beyond the death Three or four months from now but by then sh the damage will have been so much worse because we're not responding the scale of the crisis demands so You've looked at what the Fed is doing and The the biggest problem is that we're having on the fiscal side. What can the Fed? Is there anything else that what what else can the Fed do at this point Without having sort of the fiscal component. I think the big thing is Is on the state and local government side About a may eleven so we could go. the The Fed put out like a pricing on the municipal liquidity facility. Basically the interest rates that State local governments could borrow directly from of the Fed. And it's the pricing is very unattractive you have to pay interest rates well above short-term the current operating level of short-term interest rates in order to borrow from the Federal Reserve using the municipal liquidity facility. If you if you're below investment grade remember these are state local government so it's not like these are businesses so you know just because government has a worse credit rating by the way a credit rating from a private company doesn't mean that the Federal Reserve should provide support but it's tr- targeting about charging interest rate basically like six percent above the going of overnight interest rates between private actors if you're below investment grade Municipality who wants to borrow and I think you know the the Federal Reserve is of a federal government entity These are state local governments. Were in the middle of a crisis. they should be lending on a on on a preferential basis. Not on you know on a like a high interest rate basis On the theory that you know these entities aren't credit worthy because you know their state and local government responding to a public health crisis. I personally think that These facilities should be untapped that you should be able to borrow as much as you want from the Federal Reserve from the for the duration of the crisis at zero interest rates. And or you know at the like half a percent interest rate and the resumption commit to holding all the debt Holding all the debt. Not reselling any of the debt that they've purchased from state local governments for the duration of the crisis and some amount of years after the crisis. Say Five years or so forth. That like you know this. You know because you know you can argue all sorts of things about Buying and lending and the the economic effects but a loosening the financial constraints making short of that of that state local governments. Don't have to worry about. The bills literally saves lives. Now you know if you if you told them guarantee you can spend as much as you want and you're You're not going to go into bankruptcy. Uh then state local governments could spend as needed and can potentially save thousands of. Do you think the Fed is. Why do you think Powell? And and I guess the other The Federal Board. Why do you think that they're making this decision? Why are they being so I guess Chintzy when it comes to state and municipal municipalities Shortly the Federal Reserve has been most uncomfortable above everything else with quote unquote picking winners. They don't WanNa be seen as picking the winners and losers. Obviously you know under certain level are picking winners and losers right. Now when they're choosing between Gordon gives nonfinancial corporations money you give state local government so they are and they're in their their grudgingly acknowledging that but they're very uncomfortable with it and so I think they are trying to kind of limited as much as possible. We're doing this but We're we're we're charging I have you know High Ridge traits where you know we're giving the best credit to to the most credit worthy companies and they're trying to find all these outs to go yes. We're picking winners and losers butts and to justify excuse it to minimize what they're doing and and to do something what I what I'm talking about doing. You'd have to leave it to say yes. I'm picking winners and losers and the people I don't want to lose our state local governments right now because they're on the frontlines fighting of fighting this crisis and that's you know that the bat is very uncomfortable position for that. The other thing is they're worried about losses. They're they're worried about the politics of say losing fifty billion dollars or whatever because of quote unquote default From state local governments. They're worried about that like sort of conventional credit worthiness thing as you know as well. We're you know we're something a little bit of difficulty. But we don't want too much and that's why they've gone through all these rigmarole all these accounting gimmicks of well. We're GONNA do these facilities but we want five hundred billion dollars From the Treasury that will cover the losses from these facilities and these kind of accounting gimmick thing when it's just you know within the federal government If is something that they they feel like. Give some political cover and I'd be telling them to forget about that pool political cover and just do it and respond the crisis of the scale. It needs to have that responsibility just to be clear. Who is the political cover from? I mean is this a function of the The White House not wanting to fund states You know States municipalities. Because THEY WANNA put pressure on these states and municipalities Is it a pressure from? I don't know Super wealthy people who don't want their Their you know if other people are doing okay. It necessarily deval use their wealth right. I mean 'cause it's a dynamic think it is definitely Republican Congress who you know rape the Federal Reserve over the call. Kohl's whenever they do any sort of intervention But also you know in fairness a bit probably also working worried about some Democratic Congress people because the flip side of this of like responsive the crisis. You know And you know go go. All out is that they that doesn't involve some stepping out of the bounds of Of their key congressional mandate and the very least. It's stretching it and you know there are people on the democratic side that are just as worried about the Federal Reserve stepping my on its invent and there is a real danger that ask Congress inadequately responds to recurring crises and the Federal Reserve Expand. Its ambit more and more that we sense. We Ha- you know. Put All economic policy into into the Fed and we have very little democratic accountability over. What's being done so I think there is probably also a little bit of concern. You know you know can easily imagine a democratic congress person saying I'm glad that you were able to respond in in this crisis and dude and do this thing and ultimately it's a good thing but I am worried about how much power that we that we're putting putting into your hands and about the the the what it means for democracy that we know that we that you are taking the Federal Reserve as an entity isn't isn't agency just taking all this increasing power for itself To be the ones who pick winners and losers So I think that there probably is a concern on on both sides of Ohio Indefinitely. Also a concern that the bigger that they respond to a crisis. The danger the danger more of their tools. Get taken away that. What IF THEY RESPOND TO HIM IN? This will government budget crisis so big that that tool is taken away explicitly by Congress and thus they can't ever how governments to any degree So well you know. I think that they should go for it. I do think that there are some. I understand the political considerations that makes them reluctant to go that way but I think for example in this the how unfavorable the pricing on the municipal liquidity facility. I don't think that's really justified. I think they can. They can take. They can make that a much. More accessible Much better price agility with lower interest rates and you know and get away with it quote unquote in terms of in terms of Congress and I spent the fact that they're going to get a lot of criticism for how unfavorably of East assaulted surprised Nathan Tangkas Research Director from the modern Mani Network. Thank you so much for walking us through this. I have a feeling that you know this is That obviously we we need this education to understand what's going to be happening and what's not going to be happening going forward and appreciate your taking the time all right folks. GonNa take a quick break head into the fun half of the program before we do reminder. 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"This can actually I'm not kidding you aboard this weekend I will be in Houston Texas tomorrow with Dan Cook the Revolu Hey this Cleveland Brown and you're listening to the about last night podcast I guess not a must be broken we are approaching five hundred jobs which is the end of Brad Williams on the about last night podcast for now but we've got so many great ones coming up Henry Winkler stamos on itunes spotify Google play go get that and guess what on November twenty nine th you can pre-order my comedy music album songs for the people your whole fucking Shit like five thousand seat theater Comerica Theatre Dankuk me Arizona Phoenix Saturday everything you talk about he's got he's locked in on his point of view and from moving to La to North Carolina to eastbound and down to his first commercial ever this episode is any the Sitcom on ABC from Chelsea Lali Comedy Central He's a he's a beast and if you haven't seen him live you got to it's John Reap making his a bunch of those for Monday's episode so stay tuned Monday's episode I promise and I said the last few Monday's episode reading a ton and you might get a chance to get and and you're going to get some free merged come your way courtesy of atom rain I'm sheera season four drops November four th so check that out on netflix about last night podcast with the one and only John Reap again fun in introspective episode but the laughs permitted are are just you know F we don't go more than thirty seconds without busting out laughing Dana Carvey Brent Morin Jonathan get excited and get into this one now they've got the tour dates twitter handles emerged info out of the way sit back relax and enjoy a brand new episode and make sure subscribe to the pod on spotify I tunes apple pods rate and rate and comment on the items page helps us climbed the charts enjoy the hell out of this one follow on twitter instagram at John Reap R. 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Yeah I'm trying to think this without tornadoes all also bipedal files yes yeah they come they do another day John Is there what about the North Carolina right yeah keep going I remember one of his first jobs too I remember laughing so hard of this do you guys remember there was an aspirin back in the day called newprint Yes yes yes and their slogan he goes his joke was like yeah I'm kind of like newprint little yellow different Newton slogan good Nah if they can come at night you don't see them we get them sometimes but not not like in the middle of the country not if they come to come tonight turn it was a stretch yeah and we'd yesterday drank beer in the film that's right yeah it was him on yeah like I I it's happening while they're also on camera but obviously it's not really there yeah some people believe that sure yeah I'm sure most people that binged the class of comics that we came up together with Jeff Richards Love Them Great Colorado from parks and REC love Yup exactly come in there I think you that as a comic because he wasn't Dr Ken then why Dr Yeah so are you because I mean I remember the first time I didn't open mic Seattle there was a guy there who brought forty it took me a long time to get in my head to see what I thought I was going to see every day and I'll never forget I was living in Hollywood which is stupid when did you make the move out to Los Angeles the first time I came out here all the first time was like check it out for a couple of weeks but I moved out here in two thousand okay what are you impressed completely abandoned the profession Dr not comedy and they get the film's yeah he's great but the class was that you know Jeff and Reta would you guys support each other was it a class yeah me and Jeffcott close and then just reading she she came out here it took her a little longer than she got parks and rec another stuff but reta was the one that told me I needed to be doing colleges back so she got my first college I didn't do it that way I didn't tell any my friend yeah I did want them to know I was going in case I soft many go get figured this out so then you did one week all right I'm great uh-huh inviting everybody that I got three cameras I made my own little special there you go so Dr Kim would pop in he as great or give them some ideas that sounds awesome I want someone to do that that was a fun scene and then we see these professional tornado chest chasers come through you see a homeless man laying on the sidewalk in Hollywood I know that sounds so weird that never happened out of work probably was and I just he just wearing jeans and his back is towards me and he's kind of shaking little bit and he's baking in the Sun faulk like he's just like a piece of paper more I can't think of now just haven't gotten started a good night so you've been a good night oh yeah yeah yeah it's a great cloud tastic and then so I thought that was done I felt Ogden live there and I came out of my apartment one day it was like a thousand degrees outside here and a look across the street and tab awesome truck whatever if we follow them they know where it is and then we'll get faint okay that was our shortcut the valley before you come out here I didn't know what to expect yeah I you you know you hear all the story of course and they're all kind of true but it doesn't really happen right away we're well jeff came out here I lay in right away he got mad TV and then pretend snl read it came out here around the same time she was agents stuff yeah yeah so yeah that's she helped me out lock there but that that's great I don't talk that much but I'm looking I'm like Oh man poor guy it's got to be really high wonder what's wrong with it and I see people walking in front of him like walking around discuss like John Guy what could you do it around yeah go back to medical school hang be comic and Dr Until you break it into movies Dan but he didn't hang out like Popayan Surgery Guy Died Dr Cameron Ran I'm looking at Mike I should go check on that dude you know and then I'm like well no one else is that's what they do here winning Rome so I just started walking down yeah so gigantic out and try to know that traffic makes it more gigantic more spread out yeah yeah because there's such a twenty minutes to get here and I'm a mile from you I'm starting to get to the point where I kind of want to move yeah you know and then just come back I don't know where are you from from Orange County so I can't like the sidewalk like just ignored him you know now walked to a point where if I turn around I can make eye contact at sea trying to look at it and we locked eyes and he was tell because because now you're living back in North Carolina yes and so you've lived in La you lived in North Carolina yeah like how is it being a comic who don't like because there's so many comics that are afraid to move WANNA move they don't want to be out of the scene but then right now I don't know man is the case or did it for me it's like there's always a base love but I definitely as I got older guess up yeah away well when I went to college right off the the walk of fame like a block because that's gotta be in the mix I live in Hollywood yeah hey it's GonNa be another but star into being here to that happen cause to welcome see that a lot or more or star the off in the street or a celebrity navigate see a celebrity beating on the street that's your old Bingo Hollywood bingo right there that's it yeah you know at least for me with my sister it's like Ben through some things that have happened just because of getting older and life things and kid things and health things and it just makes you go oh man family I actually love my family yeah I haven't seen him in eighteen years go back when I do but it's not like it's the same real quick did that happen was that always love to see it is funny the impression that people have of la and even the ones that is the beach I thought it was obviously right I see the water all the time and it's like that's a whole nother his own lots of land and it's clear and taxes the taxes was yep traffic less tax golf not how I anticipated that story at the Hollywood but that's the way I expect looking for months to see that so you can do it and he crushed forty zero bowl yeah I mean he had forty friends and they all left after him and I was to afternoon expect you'd be like and it was Kirk Cameron off the no one stopping to say hi yeah that's what I need I can move back there well that's a move by here's a visit yeah but then it's so you want to go somewhere there's a lot of pros to not live yet but then you know you it's it's a you know I'll tell you the region but you take been debating it for years anyway inside joke and they'll ten minutes and I'm like what is this Oh you don't remember Randy at the River River Randy Verandah who's me ran That was cool I was like Oh good screw that I could do my own life I don't need to be around Momma Daddy and all that stuff but over time I I started down-home the property values going up I'm like all right let me fix us up put on the market and see what it does and and I'm happy and this industries changed so much that just gave me a glimpse in like that that could all be taken away and so and then go home and all my old school friends my family are hanging out and they'll be like an like my career is always had ups and downs you know so every career by the West and so I was thinking well I mean I could save money if I go back home I do miss my and especially now that we're all kind of aware of how intelligent Steve Martin is you go oh you have to be really smart to play that kind of idiot he was a philosophy major yeah this was having a heat stroke he was hey and when when you wrote that joke you're like I'm GonNa make it in this I'm waiting how early a big get these like weird looks on your face but yeah part of it you know it's always been a Jerry Lewis Fan when I used to love watching Dean Martin this car window you could see we shot it right across on the other side of the river five minutes for your call time that and I'm like Rodney Yeah Yeah that was on. ABC Sitcom called Rodney Rodney Carrington Sitcom so finding cop for two seasons that was fun you're you're one of those guys oh yeah you're telling people back home where you live you like holidays right in the middle of it says right there were Harrison Ford walk of fame star is pass it every day awesome Sitcom cash you got so sick last comic cash people this all the time if you ever want to get a Sitcom cancelled all you gotta do buy a house all right so our for for people who aren't familiar yes with your I mean you say you're a theater major yeah so you got into your own space you could live anywhere your town home out here same studio city that you bought a bought when you came out here I bought it in after after I get on the Sitcom I'm just real quick tangent that never you know some people you just had never seen act just known as one thing and you see him acting you go God damn right because you can do both Mr Moore so yes let in the last seven years I started going like they're getting older and you want to be around he seems people in that as parents and it's right you're ah all that stuff and Steve Martin was a sophisticated stupid yes and as I got older appreciating that Kinda oh yeah because you look back and you go and that okay I'm GonNa beat up duster okay the camera you guys home a dodge Ram truck fifteen hundred quad cab with an emmy engine Oh this is great yeah this'll be forever new yeah but it was some Sitcom cash and I got got got that and then winning last comic standing look at this camera yeah I'm fine if you think this old boy do like that he just popped it out of the socket all right there it is we get Cheri Blair good sweet that's all sick how much money for those lines you have to say it well we got we got to replace you moved home at Stat Randy yeah that I felt I was missing out and I was and I do love it I missed them so that was one another reason okay that's a good reason to bounce in the words of the host of inside the actors studio can we speak to the Hemi guy drums now set the scene it and you're towing a charger nice muscle I'm GonNa shitty muscle cart I pull up next to you and this is how the first one starts but then I will go into Jerry Lewis movies when other kids are watching cartoons like you guys are this dude is a cartoon yeah you better tune yeah yeah exactly love Jim Jim Carrey when you started loving it take Randi's dead I got a jerk for John Reigns supreme that's right but but I was like Oh long long hair and I dress white trashy that's what they said I had I used to work at a good year I had brought that uniform with me so it's nasty help me keep it there you go yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah so here's an order of things yes I move out here in two thousand the first thing I do is a dodge that one of the more expressive faces like multi came in single canvas pick it up and you can bring down yeah and it's like it's like the is l. to character through a and you went to a certain place for this role you want to look right into that camera that's and if you want uh house money for that this was like oh they'll addition was funny to like I get the call from the agent he's like hey I got this audition for Dod all the Redneck guy this whole table of guys like me yes okay that's where I'm at Brad you're not exaggerating they had Russian music center cannot wait Houston get your tickets Dane Cook Dot Com and then tomorrow in Arizona at Comerica yeah thank you and eastbound and down your very I don't know if you took classes are used naturally it was a theater major are you okay there it is so you know what to do it's kind of like epic in a weird way I'll walk into the audition there's one aluminum chair there's six people sitting behind a desk there's cameras in there almost I don't know what it was there were a lot of gingers to I don't know if they were looking for that if there were a lot of that you know that guy who plays the cop on Rodney cool and it's one of those waiting rooms where there are other auditions for other commercials going on Yeah Yeah would you walk in you look over you see like all the hot models walks up to me he's like he didn't know what it meant he's like is that what is what's this himmy thing so I had to explain it to him I go into the audition this is where it's commercial I did six of these commercials for Dodge truck and we all I can do montage leased okay and which into that philosophy and science art literature you know all I saw was a stupid thereon is and he's got happy then you go like Oh damn I guess really good yeah it says Johnny on it oil stains PERV and I'm like I got the dicky's a whole outfit I'm like I got I got a handkerchief I got this part I know what they're looking I'm just GonNa go gary can we want a guy that looks kind of like that this was before that all right yeah so I just I had these mutton chops back in the day with a beard when bent you to be that guy and so you go and you read the script you know it's got the shots whatever and it's got the script and all the line says is the nation's football players all right I'm definitely not dancing for a Pepsi Commercial I'll go over here to the uh-huh cancelling that'd be like wait house while we gotta it was walking distance to this season Radford okay fine you bought find out Komo Gimme close rash Mela him is your first thing would you get out you know I've been had probably at this point I had been on maybe twenty auditions okay things somewhat like getting up getting used to how this latte thing got a Hemi and I'm reading it thinking Gosh not sure what that what does the hand me you know I'm thinking all I remember those another guy a stoplight and a muscle car metal desert somewhere and you know I thought well the windows down because air conditioning law going to work I'll just stick my elbow out so and there are no one's saying anything they're talking to each other you know write us walk in sit down and I'm thinking all right what would I be doing for real if I was but it was usually things that were more material to work with to be able to put your own spin on it but with a lot of commercials it was just like a look or they don't know how it works anymore man it's changed yeah commercials at all I stopped auditioning for them about three four years ago because it was the one thing I felt like led to six and if they were smart they would have locked down right but they did another one agents like Taylor in Richard Petty used the Hemi engine when he became the king of Nascar they outlawed it they go this is too good no more him is Edwin yes and it just did I did well with that residuals were great back then because you know the thirteen week cycle thing I don't know so they outlawed that in Nascar and they were in old muscle cars what's the Redneck David spade character the regio dirt Joe dirt came back and then when I introduced it back as society like oh it's back and it's in a truck yeah people win loss or mind over time but I didn't know that would happen and Emme and no one had told me to do anything yet they were still trying to figure out what like Elliot's skin that just start doing it right away was infatuated the himmy engine and the movie so it's an old school car guy thing and it went away for a long time because it stopped very fuel efficient could could do a lot of voiceover and auditioned for those I had no problem with because of like I feel like I have control of this like like I think there's always something I can even if it is two lines version of Google or you had to go to a library and look up or you said to have a redneck uncle or friend yeah had to work at a good year yeah so and then so then those were but even then I go in for a coke zero one and I met I three call backs for it and felt really good and then I went and when I get down to the last few there was they start laughing and that was the first audition a callback was you know switched it up I don't really remember too much about that but I think I wouldn't have three times you know what happened but then I it's one of those things where it now you want to know what that is because your way I don't WanNa be stupid I want to be like the one stopped in the casting and yelled everybody good over you because what happens because the role said must be a little person must and I'm like check they know they're just doing a one off turns out to be super successful they see their sales skyrocket that you get here do it again so the one one off improvised comedy so then we go into the room and the Inigo Okay so you're an Elf and you're packing up your move and they had actual box they say much must improvise comedy okay I did that and then I like okay so dwarf from C. Really funny and must be as I I do because I worked at Goodyear Hemi short for the word hemispheric describes the cylinder heads you'd get a bigger boom and you go faster out the gate so what's that knew that I got the part and I didn't think it would amount to anything I really felt people would not a himmy is right and it's a stupid trump well as someone who is not a car guy I did I like I don't know what it is so we all looked up and like okay let's go let's go to the old encyclopedias yes kids back in the day you couldn't just Google something we thing and I was like I feel like go in and say delicious at least things I was going for and then I got a little more picking us at eight improvise beat out or that are like a spokesman type thing there's no way I'm getting this all best friends yeah they're all GONNA WANNA pick one of these guys and so I was like you've got to be all in right yeah I I stopped and I had a they do that and they said must have perfect comedic timing I was like mom I'm funny stand up comedy served on the road to meet the pay a little bit more yeah okay another one goes up again it's like me Jay called the deep South you're the he had gotten yelled at by people and he's like I gotTa Flex my muscle in this job you know how can I I'll take it out on the elves which they all loved to do five guys and all five of them because we went in pairs you knew all the casting people because I was doing it so sporadically I was like I ran up jumped on top of the box with my legs spread landed on it if you haven't seen him jump by the way impressive it's five rebel dead gripped with my legs tossed the box up in the take the redneck cal win we have if you're the red neck cal is not another one it's none other the thing said funny I'm being funny the things said to improvise I'm improvising the thing said little person I'm I'M ADAMA DWARF YOU'RE NOT I don't want to break down well when you're liberal I mean what what can I do know I kind of had a moment tape exists I'm Kathleen definitely didn't say display athletic prowess but check that box anyway yeah yeah be able to move got that history that you did that because those people piss me off yeah and you're right it is so incestuous fucking no each it's the end of the day with a guy or early or maybe in good stead yes already know why we're doing this shit yeah so it was tough I don't I don't do them anymore either so when you sold that townhouse then that was yeah all right so you had every right to go yeah that's my version of I'm mad as hell and I'm not going to so yeah I haven't really you're caught it with my hands and then walked up and they go no no no no just put it on just put on just put the ball on this leads so I just stopped went all right guys improvised so then I grabbed the box and started twirling on my finger like no no no no no don't do that don't do that just put the box on the slide and I go okay so now what you were ruling the box so I put it out there I'll let it go on the market and it did well so I sold it moved on I don't have to live in this town to do what I do a lot of the can we get him to come in I said I'm visit this before I moved here but I was visiting my parents and my mother had to read with me brides line those are so so the guy you were yelling at dude behind the camera of course trying to be yes rain and then they were filming it they're like Oh we're going to show this to the actual casting directors uh-huh and they said put this box up in up on this counter which is the sled so put a box on the sled right right so I go okay well lived here in the box around Senator Al Shell maybe fourth person to do that Aaron Kumar so good Matt that one of the early acting that was jibes a four I one last comic standing wow nice little run there yeah that was right cash offer whole Hash I'm like all right but it wasn't what I wanted but I knew right away that yeah yeah I love being around my family I love catching up with my friends and they started my podcast now it's called Friday on this network I get to see my I want my friends to be things I got now I again tape eastbound down I got off of a tape they had already seen Hail Kumar they liked that and they accounts one of those guys and he just got divorced he's he's a little down's luck so he does shop at goodwill not ironically because those are the best price yes sure he goes in there you were like all right we got some cash matt now this is the move already been planned or let me see was planned I mean I was I was fixing it up great getting new listen to find your obviously on the road a good amount so you don't have to base can be any way for the homeless can be anywhere happier now that I'm in Hickory because I four but it came out after you know so it looks like and they put him in a movie yeah she's right away when you're when you're able to send like a pet why in the world he is in the World Book Janika right yeah you got a bunch of those right I mean it had to do that a few times with like my wife or a friend or something and there is something in I don't know what your experience was like with your mom reading Danny can you know whatever and then I'm like but the market is pretty good right now and I just put it on the market to see how long wha- what I'd get Yep the done I'm done with this she had to go get that box the box on the cells not casting we've already done Dean Clayton I got I got different segments for my friends I got him Mark Hunt Marquette is one of Tho- height we have friends who are hilarious but the comedians from the funniest people thousand percent yes it's called John's journal in high school I kept a journal my junior and senior year of high school not because I wanted to do it the teacher made everyone in the class journals yeah yeah and so when I moved back home and I'm moving stuff around going back in my room I find these journals and there's some of them are there and I thought well that'd be a great segment we'll have good will hunting have Martin going to goodwill good will hunting almost sounds like you planned to divorce just the listeners finish them oh you finish it how was where was I going you ended for me that's so good yeah so that's a good segment before it got on the actual realtor page they have an inside thing mlk sure sure what it's called but someone is somebody do a spin off podcasts we give self help you can call it reaping the benefits is that meaning the benefits there you go screw up repercussions or give you something to work with but I don't handle those boxes on your wife when my place go fight the factor wait so I dame's funny improvising dwarf there's MIA nicknamed Vicky pick wine there's probably rolling on this so ascot spinning it so if I saw a door do that in the commercial sue these fun els yeah then could've go okay so and then so I did this thing rides lines but there are sometimes like whoever I'm reading list obviously is an actor so they'll just be like okay if that's the way you kitchen stuff done new bathroom stuff and it was looking really good and I'm talking I'm thinking all right well I I like it maybe I'll stay maybe what's it's fixed up I'll go like oh cool yeah on it it's awesome I don't I don't I don't have to rely on us a guest yeah I love him I don't have that by the way too hard to get them you know so back yeah I mean yeah yeah people are dying old that is right that yeah you know it's a doodle another school that was Oh and six and I'm like we're going to beat the shit out so it's like the redskins against the dolphins right there I mean someone had draft pick your legit trying to win and so I was writing all the smacktalk like these camps that none of 'em ways over one hundred sixty pound got run over these art at home I've already done okay but these are like journal entries and there's one in here about like were playing we were owed six played football we were Owen six we were planning eight these idiots and then we lost that game three tonight and then the next day it's like I I barely write anything like every day something so you just ears small town and then they do this and it makes them want to it's hard to get people from my facebook to watch or listen to a podcast events so we do that he'll he'll he'll go in there and get an item and I'll go get an item and we wrap it up and we exchange it on the show and we like Improv with it like here's what I got this for you wouldn't it uh-huh plant a condo in the bed that would be good marketing a segment for the podcast girl that's Ford but so that's a segment and different take man yeah that's it that's a new theme that like I I haven't heard anybody with one I think you guys will love could I could do that and sometimes I do but I feel like I pick on Hickory enough sure that I want to find other small towns act the fans on facebook what some crazy shit that happened Oh my God this is nine hundred nine right here okay and like in the morning I feel old house five I'm drawing Ninja stuff that's how karate dude names but I didn't get a Finnish him because the time running like ten minutes book of unfinished reports yes so I will read them on the podcast weird yeah yeah go to check out the podcast it's called fried yeah days if R. E. D. A. we do doing now see how your brain worked when you're that age so sure and then to see like I'm sure you're looking at like did I write anything funny they use anything yet podcast that word I think they think they need a ipod yeah right right yeah yeah well it's in well right now nodes now there's nothing in my phone the APP APP yet it's an APP not appetizer it's the thing on your phone I get hungry both triplets there's an you can get it so yeah I'm trying to even educate the people who would like me normally on facebook yeah into podcasts yeah what was it like being growing up in Hickory right then coming back with all the success because again only a handful of people have come from but how many from hickory even not bad reverse punch what you do when you're that age you draw Ninja Ninja Shit Dude so I'm not gonna I mean the the ones that are points this podcast I'm GonNa talk about this I'm going to read what you wrote and they all you'd be minute here's a can link times less it will go there right well hickory their claim to they used to be the furniture capital of the world the claim by the way furniture stuff right here probably uh-huh don't understand it it's brand new stuff in a way I know it's weird yeah they're on facebook but to tell them to go yet screw up and win this game yeah we we defeated that game and there was no draft pick at stake so so it's all you can make the mistake no sucking so whenever someone says Hickory that's my reference point that's exactly right and you know that there's a Hickory or a Hicksville or a Hickson in every state in this country multi news as well and it's catching up like all town news I'll be going down and he is that where you from well I do I it's it's it's it's a software that you can eat hardware that they have those restaurants okay this is not that this is soft I do anytime or you can watch it on youtube yeah so so it's hard so what I'll do is I'll try to pull them I go like do a post on facebook like this maiden Hickory or China probably Hickory is the China of the US yeah it's so funny take something down for ten minutes yeah every day okay and I'm like whatever you why it could be it could be just whatever's in death threats to the teacher ribbit acid cooked ribs I'm not going to that restaurant anymore we're not going to a restaurant this is a APP get food out of your you putting a curse on me what does that mean Z.. improvising everything but it never ends I am having to explain to him just out of your head it's a radio show that you can era also we're making fun of fat and see a a love doing that by the way if you had a plush doll an EA expre- fields so yes it is people what I said to hear creed you know on comedy central for people go oh I know what that is you know so Jeez yeah transition to here's how you do it I know you've been waiting for me to give you were holding out on this advice Damon's got a new movie should get in that now want your your yeah no this isn't what you do fucking Trion Brad get on that show what you need to do it depends on who it is because my mom does the she used to do you need to be get on that an hour oh my God it's annoying so so the first thing what was it that made people go holy Shit where you were walking around Hickory and literally like it was a commercial run to yeah oh good for you it's awesome we were out after you I mean yes dad was so pumped because he oh I can relate to that say my hometown Fullerton it's like man feel of what we know Fullerton it's a name of the town gently onto you so when you go back to take us through the first time you went back after I mean let's be honest Arab Everybody Watch Rodney Yeah Yeah when you talk about Hickory like my first introduction was your bit from your comedy central presents where you shake your head back go from here that's I saw it on TV or is it a bar in Saint Louis Missouri at a Gig there and it was a Sunday and I just started playing fantasy football no shit because they did six here's why I think because before you before TV before you can fast forward through commercials yeah and when they were less channels right Ed NGOs also and then see if you guys can hang out your think he'd want to hang out the guy that does him I'm Mike I don't think so I want to hang out with a guy that has an impression on me she's just me texts that Gal Gadot Holocaust movie shake you gotta get in that and she's like there's a big hey how many Jews could there be there could be a holiday where can they find us in Hollywood the Home Depot with is the home to Winston Cup champion Dale Jarrett and the pig from green acres and you on that list Oh that's right only only one is still before the Internet really cough wow you saw my face all the time whether you wanted to every football Sunday at home I remember I was a I ahead I wanted to record his set and just get the awesome safar recognition reaction that right elicit Hickory botch people helped me in a weird way because people can relate to a hickory famous for furniture all right is there some good actually I have it right here I'm actually going to my podcast after this and then the segment I'm doing by the way if you ever want yeah but you know it's either a shit show or you call Shishou points is pretty good there was a comedian who used to do this thing where he after every joke Hugo that area did and it did well it was okay it kept it kept all of its lead in the John Belushi had a show on according to Jim Yeah so ever did we kept so much full of stuff that it wants to know get no getting out of your head it's Scott Beuller call me fat no fat jokes it is used to tell me I used to do br eighty are for Bruce Willis and she used to tell me you know you should hit a bruce tell them that you do him and see if we'll do the podcast stricter I'm all you gotTa do who's GonNa be the person who has special with all drunk people at a bar Oh you know it's going to be a show right it takes you back to those early bar shows it was the guy the guy who founded the town last name Oh so he's so we can talk about him because he's and I had written all the Shit I was very excited about it I'm GonNa go this Bart Scott the NFL packaging and there's maybe four people in the whole Bar Now you have a podcast fry but we were also here because we gotTa Plug Your special thank you you're a special out now that's called gingerbread deers your beard man that's why David Ginger beard beard man where and then it's available on Amazon prime yes it is in its on demand on ah what'd you say about my Dick my Dick soft no what are you talking about your Dick my Dick and get hard what do you make quite Dick Originally Love Ronnie and would always tell you get on that show on Jim us like it's not Rodney here's a watch it because they're in the same block yeah what do you hate most people saying like ah this noises noises and point the name of somebody actually they do in a bar yeah that's not rigged there's an APP for that look it's purple says podcast live with her why purple ribbon like that and I noticed it also how he sort of told the crowd this is the end of the joke right yeah yeah we got a little cadence going in in other news hidden guys are such it down a stick my elbow out I'm thinking what says Muscle Carl vibrant will just do that and then they go and I just go thank God can you get a Barstool and sit down and I just hear a look up and see and it's on every screen far for cable or satellite go so where did you shoot it yeah in Chicago mice it shut a while back it's actually kind of open sitting on Shelf Whoa and I didn't like it at first you know I never liked the way look I didn't like what I was doing my here is very likely you know vein wide in yes smile in time in Mug for the camera you know fix this shit and post ensure enough damage genre that was a good looking special thank you and you're exactly right I love that I'm GonNa yes ended okay because not only did that happen I was in New York great so everyone please go check it out it's real good you've had some stories with live taping performances whether it be that one or and you're all pumped to go it's your half hour special Aaron Comedy Central Rickey Smiley goes in front of you Rickey Smiley runs the light yes wrexham stuff yeah I was thinking well maybe I could like well look somebody dropped out you're doing it I go all right I go to Chicago I do it found out okay so the story and and correct me when I get little details wrong which probably will you were filming your comedy Central Presents It's everywhere but net flicks right Jim Gaskins is that way or that way and now when I see it actually pretty good yeah I was actually I'm okay okay like I'm like okay so I guess that didn't work right oh well you know didn't cost me anything to do it yeah levity paid for it I just hope they can recoup their money somehow you know what five minutes is to mid you know care man and but Ricky's a great comic so he he squashes destroys destroyed world sure and the crowd that did that was there were therefore ricky okay I'm watch me fill my new half hour. The comedy dynamics comes along buys a bunch of special their whole their whole business model like we're going after net flicks and so they that's the thing is like comedy dynamics you know you're doing poorly and you're not doing well with that particular audience that night because of what just occurred but in your head you're like I'm GonNA act like I'm killing later space was shooting a lot of specials do you have an hour and like in my head I knew I didn't have a brand new hour right had new thirty but I could probably yeah he's a headline you I would have been like Ucla give or take five you can deal with that and like still unprofessional because that's still you know if you're doing it yeah 'cause the half hour but with but with commercials it's twenty two minutes set so he did fifty shot yeah so that's like and that's a that's a headliner set How long by a lot yeah well they're supposed to be half hour yeah so most you're supposed to do is thirty wanted you do twenty two right great intro come out I'm like God I was pissed yeah and we'll give you that intro river randy why was he so do this I'm told that this will work because it is a product of comedy central's as well they don't want to be bad right so at some point they're going to do the best they can rumer which I I saw you last night the comedy store and you confirmed that the story is true I love that because I've I've loved story for a while how did you okay yes the question that I want to know how you just make sure it looks good wow we'll make sure it looks good in the room Miami that's fine so we in the room it can suck yes on air sometimes you have to step away from something for a while and then look back at it and go oh yeah because you have those fresh eyes yeah and I don't like watching or listening me no one does yes not just you but everybody what it is and so and then when the guy who introduced me it was like all right you guys ready for the next four times John Rape can you tell you this story about John Reap so he tells me this story with the message being a if you fuck up special may be might be Conan it might be teen minutes special on Netflix it might be like there's so many places that now your special could go just make sure yeah so his it was his audience not like and I didn't and you were going to New York I was they'll someone will be there Blake no-one no-one likes but they also know but the main thing is you're listening to your own voice right right so you know thing my first special my my manager Mary cuts to good Mary when we tell you something my own so food did you say anything to him I didn't say anything he didn't come he didn't come near me and he went a different direction of course he didn't and I I mean he kills emergencies what a club would be that it's not going to be the perfect set that you want it to be but they'll make good just and what you don't want to do what what I was going to say next and now if this was at a club I would just keep talking right right but back it's hard to do because in my second special air but in my in my second special I forgot I just forgot fully recover it but this is the special wanted this material exactly so I so I literally just stopped and I was describe with it but they did make good medal looked better than I remember in my head I remember Luke what did they say anything to do you remember like seeing walk off stage and people being like look good yeah and I did win over about fifteen minutes in when you have seven minutes left and then I didn't go along and I wasn't happy is the room office with props Oh God you're following that and then the story the story I heard is that you go on in who knows he probably some clients there or something like that that to me for the young comics out there when when you get your first special and now who knows what your first special is going to be your first variances just pops right back and you're like cool and then when we go and I it was not more than forty seconds forty forty five seconds Russell I'm aware of like continuity aware of all that you know or or is that a club I would just jump to another bit that that I knew but and then I would he's having a good time that's the fun wow yeah told told him or maybe he was there and it went great and I was like Oh looks great talked into it like we have this is not bad she just let the hair thing go yeah and then it sat on the Shelf Livingstone I'm happier because around the family I get I get more shit done now than I did the last seven years I was here because live from podcasting podcasting has grown leaps and bounds but aside from that if you wanted to get a friend to help you do something they're busy as hell right there you know or on people's couches you'll be fine just smile make sure you look good mindless jerking on the street knew what he was looking at nobody and the ebbs and flows of the business yeah well most of my gigs anyway were on that side of the country so everything's quicker and easier to get to get to maybe I was I was describing to the audience exactly what's happening like hey so I'm stopping right now because I just forgot the next bit I'm going to get it back to go okay uh you look good make sure look good and no it's not going to be as good as a as what it was a week ago a club on a Samurai that's just can't area so and it was such a Dick move I I would never forget that that I saw how did you find out about it so I found out about it because when I was filming eternity would you don't know what's GonNa come out of your mouth next yeah that's this is not your first special now it's because Berry told me assures me he's like one of these days is GonNa stab me in the face yeah it was not a good intro and I've seen other comics it's start over I mean I've never done that and it's okay if you can if you walked back from that crowd and and try to get that electricity yeah yeah yeah yeah do you enjoy stand up and just the business more having hickory be your home base like how have you found that to bleed into the way that you just view performing hello this dude Joe John Stamos so do you are kind of looks like John Stamos he looks like I'd say that I'm like okay well that's what we that's what we're doing now and I went and I've made business cards yes and I I bought a website like well let me check with my manager I want to make sure that I can do this because if I do this I can't do this as more years involved there's agents and it's a lot of red tape then there's traffic it could be related to it okay so weird brother Ron stamos well call him marcus Stamos Okay Marcus Marcus anyway so you gotTa Marcus Stamos Dot Com you'll see what we've done now going to look it up Marcus stamos dot com in the business cards I've made headshots for him Zimmer Chanel Gallery one of the reasons I did it was because in Hickory especially photoshop him into photos of John Stamos we'll get in the way and there's people who expect money yeah if you're not pulling a favor they wanna get paid sure I go home to Hickory until mark hunt I go like hey dude the taste dude you're gonNA love this I know you love I think you'll love it more all right must be about being tall it's not going to like to this to this and then like my mom yelled out you're doing fine and then I I went shut up mom and then eventually I'm sure we've all You're trying to do a good impression of Tony Danza Yeah Yeah so this is the guy from a good looking dude from a Sitcom so I thought maybe depre- You WanNa come talk to me over here for a minute he's like yeah cool I'm going to record it he's do I get done no one's bothering so you know they don't worry about like what what's in it for me yeah they're just want to help their friends at down-home yeah I mean I just WanNa wish they had a little more celebrity to the monks Amos works out here is like enough with the cardiac right over now I confirmed it's always good when it goes to not arrested per se I was detained for a minute I was removed I there's a video of this afforded standup we're talking ninety six okay and that got laughs next time I'm up again dancing around now the whole rose looking at me next time I'm up again wholesale is on the Internet right it's true yeah so did you ever get arrested at a Carolina Panthers Gang not arrested okay when I came to his house I shot pitchers and the business card is a picture of him and it says Marcus stamos actor producer that put yeah trying to build that hey man you you get Marquan hold friend like all of his friends lists on phaser brother Mike Cohen action slowly starting to turn around and what's going on here by third quarter my friend Marty said you gotta get on that Grass Hill behind the goal post so the whole stadium can see your ass uh I made five hundred business cards I gave a bunch to every friend that we have sure and now they show up in random places you know they'll be in the bar I put him in the locker room at planet fitness I got kicked in one thousand nine hundred six with the panthers I came into the nfl they play their home games in Clemson South Carolina was so excited football fan yeah so we had we finally had her own oh by John read it was you knew what to do if maybe your first time you might not not do that that'd be fun but like I do get recognized a lot in Hickory in my hometown when people come on I got all my God I don't want to deal with it I go yeah but you know who that is for him we were at a bar he's singled out so he's back on the prowl he's learning technology whatever girl come up to him and what she said he kind of looked like John stamos and I heard aw genius genius wanted nothing of it we're going to help us I love drunk logic stage of the price is right drunk logic being twenty my friends we go we tell them we're getting hammered when the cheap seats every time out they play music I'll get up in my seat and start dancing like jackass just to make my friends laugh a story with you last night and I need one more story confirmed that I don't know his true or or not but I but I read online and the Internet that's that's John Stamos as brother and they go home and they go believable yeah card right here and then before I know deflate I get down on the ground I'm doing the worm now everyone loves this they have seen this kid progress from the cheap seats now he's on the field I feel like there's going to be news got huge so now the mascot of the panthers sees me dancing on this hill yeah no one's looking at him his routine he walks over to the fence any wave me his brother they're hanging out they have some fun Oh my God that's hilarious so another the main reason I did this because minutes straight right now now going off I'm on this grass hill the entire stadium on my right and left is into it they're all looking at me well it's like oh good a friend to recognize that you're dfw a little push that was Maury take it easy I was invited out here and that's when we learned together that Sir doesn't have the authority to invite people onto the field it's an NFL rule not like hey come out here and dance with me and before I can see yes or no my friends throw me over the fence I'm on the five yard line pop up I'm like all right and I start breakdown they're over here the whole single girl yeah I'm sure that's a win red lies on that Oh Yeah Yeah it's a little bit I'm doing I'm popping locking I'm doing the moonwalk grass and I go they deserve the worm I used to break dance I'll give him the worms some people call it the centipede call it the worm we will cut to that video right now now but in your question yes they are booing the cops and I was telling him dude doing your job different lights on the crowd they're they're different because their cameras on them that they know they know it's spent yeah yeah yeah many things that are not John stamos brother and it just says John Stamos was so I'd buy two we got we made photoshop images the booze and I'm like Oh man they don't have to worry about lost him yeah the worm but they're not doing me they're booing the cops who are running out onto the field conducting the dance move point one that side and the entire then cut them off and do the whole hand behind the ear to the other side Gilgal you videos we will yes we will cut to the videos type and John Reap Panther game and it'll be you'll see me I got acid wash jeans ooh get a kick the kid out and that's what they did now there it is there's the video after you've got fucking dude toilet so the Russians because I made fun of their kid named Dmitri and he was he he was should he break dancing and he would Disney movie made about this hill my rudy rudy a break that I'm doing the worm and all the cheers it wherever they grabbed a full on Wedgie Dude Reggie me off by the way that guy every group of friends and the guy everywhere dance floor was like go get on this hill now a player was hurt and they've got to stretch out there but they're playing music for about is I've been wanting to apologize to you for very long time why I I was in a bad mood that day we had flown all day salty. I don't know you had gone ah very long time speaking to be an active do you still do we met in Montreal I think on the bus to right so thank you for bringing this yeah because Yeah I've seen you I've seen you do the worm you're very good at well thank you very he's warm on the thirty five do you feel like there's a day wind dance move you'll be the Tom Brady Madonna I'll I'll do to my daughter's wedding that'll be that'll be the pizzas assaults I don't I don't think I've done the the whole nfl he's royalty he's he's Sir thank you as a big goofy looking Disney look and won't be able to I mean we'll we'll walk us one day but it's it's I feel like you could do it for a long I hope I got ten I hope that I last longer than Tom Brady and the NFL just me doing it guys in everyone's guards down and you know something that happened with our shuttle was late then we got transferred to another shuttle and I think you'd come from eastbound and down I want to say but yes H Roy and I was like because Dude you're I love act outs but not everyone can do them not everyone is fucking good and then everybody recognized I think that's why you were an extra tired and tried to explain that Sushi so that I was just like yeah also the travel I get it but so wait dude I've seen maybe a few in all my time of people doing a big closer with some cues and stuff dude by far fast I think this happened Post Montreal that my own club the parlor live the Europe at I did a guest spot at and then which let me do and then watch handful needs that guy every bar Mitzvah Dj needs a sidekick warm it looks like workout yeah yeah yeah I like a good one I can't do it anymore I'm too old but when so I feel like I felt you were break dancer at some point I love that I did make fun of the Russian break dancers in middle school and the Russian mafia as we call them through my backpack in people like I want to see this person's our fucking phenomenal and you had a really physical bid at the end with the musical yeah yeah yeah yeah the having too much longer how said at my house that are you going to be how am I going to be when I can't do the worm anymore because I could never do it cross assaulting two you know I was Gonna say that was I was such a big fans though that macho man this is why this festival so cool because you get to get out of L. A. and B. in a bus on the way to a Gig with you gotta bring back the Hemi Guy Yeah you'll be able to buy the rights yeah oh by the way yeah thank you first of all yes dude real miss to what you were doing and but still making it you know larger than life enough so that you could fill the room but it was like from that moment I was like Oh yeah you're doing man they're they're they're going to wear the way your worm is dude like it sure and some of the material in it is stuff I retired like in but has never been on TV and I go like they were asking me like hey we got I don't need your Goddamn festival about that later on in life I thought like he's GonNa no way dude that you were just school here's even cooler then it was like the the nuances that commits the the how much that even being like big or something like that but still like contained does this also doesn't have a shelf life well I can't air it because I can't buy the song that attitude and those four wanted me and we had this like I thought fun back and forth but I maybe was funny so does my backpack in the toilet and I was looking forward to the end of lunch and I was like she's like Mr Ray why are you late Russian mafia through my backpack in the toilet it's a long story I don't think it did not break dance musical beater dancing For another time getting very happy about that but guess what I was fully on board I said Fuck this I'm going to have yeah you did I'm not poor and you bounce it's going to get a cab rebekah and somebody goes I think the Russian mafia through the through the the Ba- the bathroom and so I get it and I walked in and we had a substitute teach and I missed portraying or lazy I and I walked in and I like that I've done that closer for so long now doing you know I do they took a closer I don't feel like to change some people like it that's like I hope there you go have you seen it I've not to DEF Leppard pour some sugar on me Gotcha on Youtube right if it's if it is it's done illegally someone tapes correct we don't want it out there because I I don't own the rights to the song yeah flag it also quoted yeah all right well this will help yes so if nothing at all come at the very end of my set fire to be there for the whole hour it's a it's a it's a it's a thing that I my mouth what it's like going cruising at my brother's nineteen eighty-five Iraq Z. Twenty eight we t tops to arrest me because they didn't see sir invite me Sir per than any of the mascot which is great news on the most feared masks in the Rickey Smiley la so everything's timed out there's everything that I said this guy's kind of a Dick poor phone you start doing the worst fucking eastbound down money that was great yeah so surperb and he invited me out there the cops didn't say the invitation you screaming certain parts that it would go how high is this guy outdo the lead to something else thank you know at the rights you're not gonNA put on Youtube camping it on you got it very very poor poor by the right do they act out on the rhythm of the it's it's a hit every fucking thing that's going on but Kala trainer it's GonNa be a great segue now you forgot your train of thought speaking of forgetting trains of thought you meant Gary Busey recently that's a great segue I'm joking keep going on now you how hey gary hot is it true I can't hear you I need you to get closer young man I'm about six fears sook around then you put it on and everything but it's like even when the Sundance so but I've just getting told to dance I used to make fun of the guys that you'd see dance club taking themselves too seriously doing some stupid line dance that's just corny like they're doing a mock arena but they're making faces like ah drops saying Oh shit what's your eyes go down we okay Lisa bring the golf cart over here names Mary it's that lap dance now it's like now it's like on a special and it's almost like I can't do it on TV why am I doing all the time but I don't know I don't know but I used to dance I used to make fun of dancing by dancing I used to do this bit closer it was called the Hickory dance machine and so- Kamaruddin it's all something fun it's something right on for the room for the room for the people it's great I do this Great Nicole Zora Act out driving my sister's Ford Escape and it's it was on a train how how where where how in the world is like to hear my impression of Gary Fire Away during the hours you know and then you ring on a little bit and then you kind of dry it off like this you hang it up on the clothesline put the clear fins dig another one sniff it Mike Yeah he can't contain him but I did manage to get him for a minute me and this other comedian dusty sleigh love dusty slash I can I can I come meet you're going to be real quick but but we'll do that after okay great I don't want to say no just asked me any question you know you like this might take it easy a child's never been a mockery and off is any guy washing women's laundry in the eighteen hundreds dance so he starts out and there's a song for everything on them of wash wash board all right so I did these dumb dances it started with tools like a shovel or rake a mop and my favorite one the one that I'm proud of that's a call he said you don't do it anymore do I still do it but I use I like having a closer I've always enjoyed watching comedian around so just enjoy the closer and closer like a big thing that you do every time he used to a lab day I I've seen this yeah sounds that like even if they're trying out something new you know maybe it's not working got that one thing at the end it's all yeah yeah and so I like doing that me because she assumed I was a comedian I was going to maybe have a joke about it which I didn't I liked it she flirted with me I don't think it's real though but she was the center so this is cadence he still slow but he's got jokes he's like if Mitch Hedberg didn't do all their drugs and you need to Oh so there's a new show on CMT coming out called Nashville squares so it's going to be Hollywood Square Guy Fucking love that please and I couldn't believe it is call off guard I think she wants Marie Osmond Flirt like Oh look at you with that beer come here feel it she feels she's touching my beard maybe so mad but yeah Bob sags hosting it love that you've got so yes mt it's it was kind of a mess do save it but like I said I put on a smile and communist I love Bob Sagging let me start with that AH okay we're having to give up in a trailer we're told me with a tornado comes to go outside lead down in a ditch just a cute little thing aren't you I'm like the worm let's just say let's just say he's having a good time he's having a good thing he's a self spotting these assault spoken trailer park a guy who's very smart let me beauty is center he should've been calling who was center who's that Marie Osmond she's earned it and she flirted with me I like that on a show with a comedian and they get nervous in their head they're thinking all I don't he's he's GonNa take a shot at me yeah I took a shot but if you likes me maybe you won't so I think she was flirting with love a little bit of Hedberg yes really good so he's blowing up right and I just did the Jimmy Fallon a couple of times already had a great time Jimmy talk about the gate already any one of these guys were he takes he takes the same photograph every time yeah yeah he just doesn't it yeah great hair great hair came right out of a truck stop a trucker hat long hair beard last talkline weekdays and we're having the or square BC was middle left Dusty was a square I was a square that coming out November first on Mt if I if I was a contestant hey I was going to say black sheep Ciampi Ciampi because we need to start okay I got to lay down rabbit hole might sound like a strip club that he will house or would go to the rabbit hole round all the rabbits were men yeah so he's really good he's right right now look up dusty sleigh anyway so how does dusty sleigh and you get is creative about to blow up his blogs that I mean if you listen to podcasts you know who's coming up who do you like who's going to be next dusty slide get onboard educate me I love me some sagging we all of course but I don't think he was prepared when it came in there and this is C. T. This is Nashville squares there are some of the questions an offer back in country stuff and he's like he would read it and this is the biggest since there's a catfish yes bob everyone knows Alexa David Spade share rate review subscribes share. You'll house on the food network we ran Steve Stone Cold Steve Gary Busey Center square long stone very sweet so I will sometimes check it out not a whole lot guilty pleasure roach dude Melvin Fabri you eat it back can't Dodd Jesse Looks Morlock Maroon than it is but of all the time Oh who's the guy you know he'll how's that is an avocado eating oh my how would you if you don't get that joke just please Google piece you fall down a youtube even if it wouldn't help my game at all I would always be calling on Garib UC done it took forever for somebody to call on hold on last al I remember the first aired there's strip into everybody dance now by CNC music the top left square. Paula Deen here you guys you call on me you call me I've got a Pie I shut your Damn Mouth Polythene own code cut it out yeah he comes out he does this thing starts off like that because I like to tell people have a good time no one asked him just yet you have to now we're here for him but I made a pie for some of those non wives if you guys want one of those turned into that what that guy who was Adam curle verses being like Oh should I say this I don't want to cut them off I don't want to wonder if we'll get mad if I squeeze in one more job before the news is already moving yeah it's tough but catalogue listen Adam Corolla listen to Howard stern still those those guys always come out with so much brand new shit I don't have time wages ticket right up your ass have you bought my book out called BBC is don't go down res Coaches during mayor you know I'm sitting up here visiting and you're getting all the updated current you know stuff going on to get out I mean both of you guys kill it on Corolla every time you've been on a couple of times and so things like that that does matter though like you can get somebody that's truly you know he had hosting it we're stone cold they're eventually whenever you're ready I'm just amazed at how quick his wit is Yeah and how fast he can oh and he always has an opinion about anything totally always there and you guys the first time I was in there I was overwhelmed and I remember just because I'm a fan lap dances are wrap a bring your own care it's you told me listen to are there are a lot of podcasts or even stand up do you what do you like assume all this you know Kinda was getting burn I don't like to watch a whole lot of standup because like do it and if someone's on if I if I'm flipping around some guy pops up on a late night said or sure got really low I like hanging out with a show or if you see Brad Williams and Adam Ray both on reading and looking at them and being able to like we were talking about the story of the night when to jump in and recognizing that he will want you to jump in and back off and let you talk oh I'm I'm talking to you I'm talking to you GARIB UCY word your hair go don't tell don't tell stone co where my hair win or alter my hair we did have a meeting have good to have you on I was just in the trailer I remember everything and it's like all right here we go and right out the gate one of the guys takes the ten drink your beer guy right through but well I drink vodka but they like whiskey Gotcha beer and whisky yeah yeah there's Moonshine it doesn't mean times you know what to do and you guys are very good at it thank you so admire that but it's it is tough I've been anytime I've been a fan of something and get on it a nice let me do the warm I'm sorry no no he she's she's looks good deflecting thing that some actors do you know what you're going to be nakedness a Jew and you don't like to be like no I'm going to be this guy instead it's like no you'd be I've tried to stick be who you are what's the hickory drink by the way any of Focke of sorry guys I just did that and they're like so rule you said Oh good friend mentality yeah so I do love you seemed to have a good sense of yourself I think you fully embrace your read uh-huh improvident over that and I hit him thinking like Oh here we go yeah it's my turn I go that's cool beaver you only know people were slightly inappropriate last night he's his dad his dad is Steve Pussy the Steve Steve Pussy didn't even try to be clever with it here's why would ever respectful way that's why I was best on Harold and Kumar the second one I think that's the best should've done these guys watch every generation we change our last name to another you over the I'm sleep this is my boy John Beaver to get back in there if you're listening to Weei special contact Mike how long you're out of here for I've done it too I know he's overwhelmed but I'd love to get back on Dan to always bugs me like look at it like we're equals totally right and I was like just go mask young yeah but you guys have been on so many times the poster it just says that duties I kind of like a little bit yes he sounds like a movie star like almost a here I have a buddy of another guy who's one of the funniest guys ever you ever heard of John Beaver Boy You know Mark Hunt and John Before they were famous I'm like I don't know I mean there's just actors could do this yeah yeah guys will Fargo's and Internet you know about the third time I was like okay just look across and go I'm on the show and these are just like anything getting comfortable in that I love it he has a he has a Moonshine distillery like he makes it's not illegal to make it yeah it's illegal to sell it without taxing so you can make any it all in I was like I seen we shot we were at a bar and it was like their hot girls everywhere and we were in the suits and we'd slow motion that could be yeah I get that but

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Diallo Riddle

ID10T with Chris Hardwick

1:35:51 hr | 1 year ago

Diallo Riddle

"Welcome to the podcast number ten seventy six. Let's immediately jump in and talk about the Cork Board events at ten dot. com is how you can get your thing mentioned on the t community court board like Frankie, who writes hey, Chris, and Cru first of all want to thank you for having bet? Nicole Brown on your podcast. It was great to hear her perspective. She's an amazing person. Yes, I agree with you a thousand percent. When you put the call out for creators at the end of that podcast I was grateful. There's a board game being produced right now. That needs more attention brought to it. The game is factions battlegrounds. It was created by Jason Creighton and Peter Ferry. They created this game when they were in fifth grade, but if recently rebuilt the world to be more inclusive and diverse, they didn't just stop at their world building because they've hired any equally diverse group of artists bring this world to life. You can find it on instagram. The account is factions, battlegrounds, or you can go to factions. Battlegrounds Dot Com, thank you for your time. And for reaching to bring awareness to creators that might not have the chance otherwise Frankie Frankie. Thank you so much for writing in and I did check this out and it does look amazing. In fact I signed up for the email list so. So hopefully I'll get updates as to when it's available and I will let everyone in the community knows well. Thanks again events at ten t dot Com. To promote your thing or thing that you are excited about, let us know. This episode is Diablo Riddle. Who is? An incredible artist I mean he's an Emmy, nominated writer and an actor and a musician deejay and producer show runner. He was on the show Marlon. He was on the show rise, but he also. Wrote for Labor Jimmy Fallon for a long time, he co created slow jam the news which you've seen, and he and his writing partner Beshir's Salahudeen have created this amazing show called southside on comedy central while simultaneously they created a musical variety sketch comedy show called Sherman's showcase, which was on IFC and now that has been absorbed by AMC as well so it runs on, IFC and AMC. And if that's not enough, he also on the music side help put together the music with Edgar right for baby driver, so he's he just literally does everything incredibly. Super Nice Guy and he and his writing partner Bashir are legit comedy geniuses, so they've already made amazing stuff now and I'm just so excited to see what amazing. Huge things that they're. They're gonNA. Create in the future, so it was a real pleasure to have him on. Their first show south side you can and should watch. is on comedy, central and comedy. Central's put those episodes up on the Internet as well and Sherman showcase black history month's spectacular special Friday June Nineteenth Sherman showcase marathon on, IFC begins at four PM Pacific, and then the special airs at eight PM Pacific meanwhile, the special airs on AMC at Seven PM, Pacific. So there you go, it's you actually could watch the special. On AMC at seven and then jump back over and see it on IFC at eight. So there you go congratulations to Bashir. Follow for two fantastic shows simultaneously. That are both gonna make more episodes, so here's the number ten seventy six with Diablo riddle. Love Your wallpaper. Oh, thank you. Yeah, it's kind of like weird steam punk wallpaper that my wife found. And we she had extra of it and so this actually. Extra wallpaper. That's. What life is like. WALLPA- like Queen of wallpaper like she finds the best wallpapers in this actually the podcast room that we normally podcast out of. But I'm just in here now. We're doing it on a computer because you know. Hey rotavirus! I, told you. F- about about how like 'cause he was talking about how he does the show now, and he's like we're all learning stuff and I was like I was talking to Chris Hardwick, day. He was like yeah. We finally caught up to what you do. have been doing for the last fifteen years. Yeah, I know and then, but like patting ourselves on the back like now. Sacrificed guys I am broadcasting from. Get this my my dining room. WHOA! Wow, what abroad gets youtubers fuck you. Doing him with less than you have in your pocket right back. Yeah, so you know they've been when you start to go down. I was like man youtubers. Were Dave this date? They blazed this trail. This is ground that they see did all these years? Did you ever hear Did you ever hear? Wasting Banter, but now zero story about. Forget if it was Ben Affleck. Matt Damon Bill Back when they were doing project greenlight. I think. It was bad actually. I I heard him speak one time, and he was like you know I look back with project greenlight with a lot of regret, not for the reasons that you're probably thinking Shyla booths like he was like I literally went back, and I looked at some notes that we were taking back in the time, and we had all these ideas about how we would have people deliver. They are filmed to us and he said that You know like the at the time they were working really hard on people being able to upload their movies to a server so that they could actually watch them without him. Having to send in a vhs tape at is like so basically in our interests, making tons of money in Hollywood which we never made on any of the films that we ever did a project green light. But, if we it ever cracked the code on uploading video stream from your laptop, we could've been in youtube. We wouldn't have to be these clowns in these clowns suits. He'll try to make funny stupid. He seems like we could have just solved pros by admitting youtube it is it's hard to. It's hard to remember that there was a time I mean it's kind of funny to have like you know old man computer. Talk like in my day you to. You uploaded a video the size of a postage stamp. You look at the guys you look like the rooster teeth. Guys who have been doing it since they had to like upload I. Think Maybe Quick Time Videos. And then there was a time where you had to host the video, so you had to pay for the traffic. You know like you had to pay for the bandwidth. Video got downloaded. that. Guys stop watching the video, please. Please watch this. Don't watch this. Watcher enjoy but don't tell your friends, please. Please don't pass this around. I cannot afford for you to pass around as it's not like vhs different months since. We, we don't. We don't even have invented the word monetize yet. We don't know what that means, so we're still I lost all that money on pets.com in thousand so bit the best mascot. The didn't get a chance. That surgical mask I'm a sucker for puppets. There you go. I mean. You know that mascot is probably available on ebay somewhere. You could probably get that. Greg the original. Yeah, you probably get the I guarantee you. Know One and probably not for much. You know what I mean like. Could. You probably could find that. You brought your bed somewhere. Do you think it's do I mean? I I always say like there's no excuse for creators now. To not make whatever they want, because we have all these resources at our at our feet that we didn't have your yours a few years younger than I am, but do you you so you? Must you remember the Pre Social Media Video Upload era and the Post era. Would you have preferred? To grow up now, or do you like kind of having the analog backgrounds that you grew up in? Man You know though I bought these turntables on a I applied for a credit card in bought these turntables nineteen, ninety six. You know like I I like a college. Freshman and I was like really want to do this and. The freshman credit card. They always think. By the way I was paying two. This thousand dollars. Off For years like I definitely more. A ten thousand dollars turntables. Buy Dollar. Minimum payment I could afford that. Is Love. The light outside the usually makes his all like a wonderful cameras. Skara is like perfectly position right now on my car so that it's actually growing a shadow on my face, so I think that'll be gone in like a couple of seconds, but. Probably. Fine listen videos, not gonNA. Rip The audio off these anyway so great. Yeah. This is just I'm just doing video so that because i? Just I just like being able to talk to people of this is great I. Love this by the way I'm GonNa. Keep the jacket on, because it tells the kids that I'm working. A baiser is basically a second under. So, let me ask you about that with kids during the virus. Right because you your schedule like the number of you're got a lot of stuff and you work out a lot of really great stuff to. What I think about especially now. It really feels like, do you? Would you say now like? You feel like you've sort of past. You're like jumping to the next. Feel like you're jumping to the next level career wise. How does it feel to you? A little bit. Look I'm really happy that you know. You're talking about kids in Cova and of course, I was just handed this. Girl. Love you just threw the ball to distract? Any love you like. Wait a second. I was showing you the ball I was at A. You're making me chasing them. Hey Babe. Do you mind watching Desmond for? You Might Watch Desmond by doing a podcast right now. Is that okay? Okay, love you, thanks! It's never gonNA sound like a real thing. No matter how many no matter. How big PODCAST skit no matter how much you know, no matter how much money comes into podcasting. When you say, Daddy's doing a podcast, it's just never gonNA sound like a real thing. Right Dad when you're done, even convince. I'm looking like a schizophrenic man talking to his. Daddy's doing podcast now, dad. Would he? Gave you a bar episode? No you you're asking about like how it feels right now I would say that the that it does feel different than it did even just a year ago. You know we were on the cracks of having to shows that were. Really well received, but nobody had seen them yet, and now I feel like people have seen the shows. One is on Hulu, so most people have either Hulu or access to WHO and then I suggest bill deputy. No, we we we just out to date that we have season two on, both shows so excited about bad season to Sherman's antics. Tubes outside is to outside was announced a little bit ago. Like maybe in October but season two Sherman's is brand spanking. New Information was just announced today. Thank you with the additional win victory of the fact that it is also now an AMC Sharat addition to justify at see show. tastic, which is awesome? Yeah, yeah, and and now angry of because I also work for AMC, so I could have gotten into. Yeah, I could have gotten advanced copy of. Case, it didn't I didn't get well. This is fantastic news. This means. Number One. You don't even get you. Don't divide. Did you just go down my my wife garage doors. Tell! Tracking with what people think of podcast is by the way. I'm so sorry. This is not at all any time this week. Is this scary any? Of, any show for this to happen on. This is the perfect one. Totally fine having a seance right now. The man I think. If, anything maybe one. Maybe we can do a one off talking Sherman at the end of the season. Talking Sherman would be a fantastic. I would do a talking Sherman and you have to come on talking dead if you're caught up walk. By the way I have never gone behind I feel like there's a whole thread of my of my phone, which is just my family members across the country and that threads started about the time they got to a terminus, and it never stopped every single brand new episode. There's at least one time where by sister spring will say. Oh, no, I haven't done. Don't start chasing about it. Joe think that I didn't notice the walking dead. Shout out and episode of South Side win. A character pulls out what he calls Lucille Dragons, which I don't want to spoil anything. Blood yes, definitely worth a watch if people haven't seen outside, the show's great, and it and You know having all these things fall into place. Especially now is such a a beautiful time, because the talk about having a standstill stands for what the business was it before March thirteenth, you know. It has it was already rapidly changing and then the virus just accelerated the. Cam. Yet represent like the number of people in an effort to save money, because money's tight up there right now you know like the number of people who you know canceled subscriptions to basic cable I mean like it definitely affects the you know the the ecosystems that we sort of you know. Make link through It's kind of a Harry time, but you know that was already accelerating as well so. You know between people go into streaming. People leaving. You know brought it like as a person who writes shows I often think now we'll do where do i. put this and I always want to know. Right off the bat like. Where's the streaming side of it? Because I do think that people do get a lot of their If you're not on streaming. It's almost like you're not. Existing even even with the Sherman showcase special I give people say oh, man, what's Your House I'm like AMC. When's it going to be on Netflix so? When's IT GOING TO BE? Who is like I'm like guys. It has even come on TV is. A Ninety Day window before it goes to streaming you know we're just all learning as we go. I wish I lived in more simple time. There's a party like Pan just to have two shows on the nineteen seventy six. That would've been insane. Oh yeah I mean like forty million people watch. What a million people your cancel bill I. Take it tank twenty million people? You're done forever you're you're you're finished in this business I? Want to go back and see like what Pink Lady and Jeff Made. The got them cancelled after three episodes. They're bragging. Fifteen million viewers or something like that? Would have definitely been an insane number. Now you know now like people are like. Hey, A. Couple of million people watch this network show. That's a big deal, right? You almost got a million people. Night and tune into a show. So, yeah. The fortnight Kinda spins back into where I was headed before. which is when you when you have as much work that you have which is writing work, which is which is focused, I can. I can't be distracted while I'm writing, but you know there's, but you also have a family at home kids. To how many kids do you have we have? We have three boys three boys so during the quarantine. How have you have you and your wife found time to balance time for yourselves? Balanced time for the kids bounce time for your work. It's interesting I. Feel like you know this is a You Know Britney such a wonderful wonderful. Partner. If you will she, she's definitely taken on ninety percent of the watch. The children low during these times She's an accomplished choreographer. She's a choreographer on Sherman showcase and she also has like a party planning service A. Party, but at the end of the day during this time they're on a lot of parties in a lot of. Gigs so she's taken on that burden. Even as I feel like in some ways, my work is ramped up. It's been you know a very busy period. In terms of writing, because there is sort of this were stocking up on scripts to shoot when we can go back to shooting. I should say season to US outside has finished like we've already written script now. Will we have to go back and rewrite? So I'm sure we're going to have to go back and rewrite. Some of the scripts goes. We have seen parades. We have scenes. At the, Stadium like it's just insane like we been thing from a second or third matrix where they were having that rave underground, and everyone was like smearing all over again. I think we're not going to be able to do that anymore. Not Gonna be able to shoot that scene or by the way the person might even saw that feed. I was literally wondered what movie I walked into. It was strange it was it was. But yeah we are talking about maybe going back and rewriting some of the scenes in episodes, so that you don't have like there's literally Silmi covert unfriendly scenes in the currencies in south side to has currently written like we have a whole scene where there's a tornado crowd like twenty five characters into a basement like we can't. We might as well do like a handshaking competition just like as as Cova unfriendly as you can possibly get. But it also it I think it's. Just so much more aware I feel like than we ever had to be about. That whole layer stuff you just never had to think about before that now is not only you have to think about it, but strongly informs the kind of stuff that you can even do anymore on every level on every level in just You know I actually don't mind the zoom rooms as much like. Writing. Writing a show with a group of people in a zoom is not as much as being all gathered around the table. It's still there are still moments where everybody's like in tears, laughing deliriously in that that part of it is still the same you know. I will say when you pitch A. What you do. A bad job in the room. It doesn't hurt as much because you can kind of get a couple of nervous labs and you're like okay. And you move on on zoom like nobody laughs, and then you kinda like it'd be like. Am I muted guys like? Muted, you know like so they're like. Yes, you are but not to hit. It's. It's pretty painful, but But? Yeah, we don't know what we can shoot. We don't win were shooting. Another some people are getting back to shooting a lot of unscripted reality stuff starting maybe as early as this week. But everything else you know. We just got John Legend Father's Day special which gunman on Sunday and that was all drone shots, and you know these gigantic grain, ABC, so they could afford drones grain shots like all these things that allowed the crew be completely distanced but it was still still just we like just. You didn't leave the House that much I'll be honest like when I go out to. To pick up groceries or something that we absolutely need I, find the the atmosphere in the mood outside just to be weird like the people who aren't wearing masks Why not wearing masks? The people who are wearing masks? I'm like you know it's just the whole vibe out. There is really weird right now. It is very strange and I see more people, not wearing masks than wearing rematch. Yeah! I just feel like okay. Will I know whether or not you believe that it helps? You know it's probably just a nice sort of like everyone. Just know that I care about. We're all in this I. Care About Your Grandmother Arab. Doesn't with asthma. Yeah, I would think that you know I also think it's a matter of the people who can afford to stay home. The people who are. Really taking this seriously, we're not gonNA. Be Out on the street. You know doing stuff, so it's really it leaves just the people who I feel I are probably thinking I would hope nobody thinks a host. It it's sort of a self selected group by with bank dislike. Go returning to the restaurants and returning to the gyms right now. You know what I mean like. Ali Why you see the people that you do see out bear Bryant not the ones who are Gonna be that adept aware mass by saw report, where like one and two Americans wanted to fifty percents. feel like they're only gonNA. Wear masks. Sometimes you know so. That's such a weird statistic. I'm only going to do it so I gotta be honest. I'm just going to do this sometimes and if I'm really being honest, probably not that much at all I if I'm being honest, yeah. People coughing, you know. Yeah I mean I carry one I? have one of my back pocket right now. Like I got a bunch of these in there just easily washable and I just put Ota put it on, and you know and I just sort of feel like you know. Doesn't I don't mind like it's not that? Much harder to just do this if you know if it keeps keeps up one safe, but I am extra aware because my wife has. Some kidney stuff. That would not be great if she got right. Right. I. I think that that's either. That's the way to go in. You know nobody wants to be lectured to nobody to be bridge too to, but you know trust the numbers. The numbers are not going down the way that we like to think that they are so I just encourage people to just look at the numbers. Entrust your as pilots always say trust your instruments, you know. The instruments said that you're losing altitude. You know. Make a course correction. You know right now. Texas Arizona Florida. Just you know they're not doing. They're not doing good so. You know just as. 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When everybody else is getting great grades without it'd be or impressed to go to the table and make everybody laugh. priorities but there were these other those on hold other track lampoon track, and I gotta say and I hope that will. Anger anybody, but you know the lampoon is a lot like a college team by. Changes out every four years there's no institutional memory, so some point are better than other for years and the four years that I was there. I mean like I. Don't remember them ever putting out anything that I thought was hilarious. You know when I want to read Bunny publication I read the onion in which was. Slowly I figured at the time was fully spill. Just at University of Wisconsin There was actually another comedy mag say it was called Dragon or Roden or whatever does put out by a completely different group of Harvard? Guys that we all really love we thought was really funny. But the four years there I-. Culturally I could not seen myself pledging 'cause you have to like pledge to be a member of the. Land. Poon but you know on the hall of the second I graduated every every time I. You know went out for a job. They were like Oh. Do Lampoon and I was like? I wasn't sweating the Lampoon I feel like Bashir in our comedy is different. Maybe because we didn't go through that rubric camp of. even to this day when we're hiring writers for our rooms, I'll read. Lampoon I actually read a our lampoon's alumni submission not too long ago and thought it was brilliant. She's clearly. He's clearly very funny, so we're not against that but I. do feel like Sometimes. It's overstated this idea that like comedy writers are are. Are any better Sometimes they're worse. I've I've met a couple of guys like that. Dude is getting hired because he went to heart is not that funny What did you study? Man You know I could have done better. I went in there as a ECON major, but echina- metrics started kicking my butt like echina- metrics assists. Heavily Applied Mathematics version of economics and it was really just it was applied math that I was I'd never had that I was always good. In spite ever since of drowning like no matter how hard I study I cannot get this and You'll never forget The president was auto and auto is like we'll just keep trying the, but like I couldn't get it like that was my best German acts. Up. I couldn't. Couldn't. The so I switched humanities like like a good getting Keep making as and. And I and I took history and I took the American sectional prices, because I've grown up in the south and when he grew up in the south, you're constantly civil war markers in black right and I grew up loving. Just reading knowing knowing everything there was to know about the civil war I grew up on a cre- in Georgia and the. The Battle Utah Creek I. Love the fact that there have been a battle of the civil war like right behind my house at one point so that that became my love and my interest in sort of became I love story because up until that point, all the writing I done had been political at the Kennedy School and the Harvard Political Review After after I discovered my love story all my work became fiction again. as I went back to third grade, New Right spy novels with Royce riddle the World War Two black spy, who somehow is able to infiltrate the Nazis and kill Hitler You know that you're definitely going to write that right? I mean like is definitely a thing. I mom saved all the books that I published. Cool thing about my elementary school. They found out that I was a writer so like in kindergarten. Ironically at I published, a book called the true book dinosaurs, all the parents buddies that put the true, but like all this. and Ned look I mean blatant plagiarism I just top passages out of my favorite books about dinosaurs, but between that, and then by the age of yeah, by the time I was eight I was really into World War Two Indiana Jones had an effect on me. I want to know everything about the Nacion allies I played access allies that reason you know. I just. Yeah, that's that's where my My writer bug comes. But also your sketch group at Harvard. wasn't just you in Bashir, but also why? It's an acquisition, it and Robin. was. After college that was that was after college. Yeah, and we had nothing going on and I was in a sketch through amateurs in another sketch group, but we're still friends Monday. We sat down and I was like you know what I like my sketch group, but I've always the co-pilot I should never be. The pilot and Bashir was like you know. They always make me the chef. Figured out that we should form like an all black sketch group, which the time is amazing that there weren't that many of the there were the that many of those and so we decided we were going to pull away from our sketch. Groups were was the only black guy we were gonNA, form, black sketch group, and we only we audition and the people that we auditioned have all done much better greater stop like it was me this year. Robin Didi Wyatt Snack disastrous Nefertari, Spencer Naked King. WHO's on HBO'S EUPHORIA? Just, everybody in that group is just Kinda like. On a degree seven, we still stay at Rommel texts me right before we started recording this to say congratulations on season two while stayed friends, and we always talk about doing a reunion show that it's really going to be a time. When you so when you're doing when you're in these other sketch groups that you break away from, are you? Are you able to have conversations with like hey? Can. We talk about like different types of roles or You. Know I'm submitting these type of sketches, and they're not getting through, or what's the I mean? What are the conversations around that? Was Pretty sure, it was just like Hey, can i? Can I do? Other than, but you know, I would always try to make a meal out of my snack so less. I'll never get the time that they made the co-pilot when I really want to play the violin because there's a much better part. I just decided I was going to just really eat up that one move that I hadn't. Died I I I went big. I admittedly went big, but the audience ate it up, and I was like okay so sometimes it can be fun to be the CO pilot, but really it was just a matter of. I think this is still the case because you know my wife. When she decided, she wanted to do more like comedy for Yager, she joined the. STARTED ATTENDING UCSB here in La and I see now that like even more than ever light. There's so much politics in there so much just interpersonal politics that go into which herald group you join and and and. I. Think Anybody who who's been to UC be or or I? O or any of those plays the second city. You know there's just so much that goes into which group you get to join and Yeah, it's top man. It's really tough. You know people don't always get to be in the group that they to be. So then you make the group that you want and then did it. Did it immediately feel like? Oh, yes, this is what I've been at immediately, so yeah, so nowadays I think it's called the comedy central stage, but back then we were able to. We actually bought seven hundred fifty dollars from Bernie Mac. One of our actresses was a PA on the Bernie Mac show and she went to burning. She's like hey. We want to rent the space to put up a a sketch show, and by the way this is like there was no youtube yet. I WanNa to say that there was. Youtube by the been there, but people still really wanted to be unabomb world. That was that was. Kid I call I'd like the tonight show with. Her. You. So that was that was the goal, but if you couldn't do that, then you had to tell people. Hey, I'm really putting person. This is where you can find me. You consider link. It'd be like you have to hop in your car at six thirty and be across town on Santa Monica and point city at seven o'clock and see me on a stage where I'm going to hopefully have enough people there where you're not the only person in the audience but the very first time we stood sketch show up. Pack Pals like we had ninety nine people there was standing room only and killed and everything that we wrote really rocked and and. From that point on, we knew that we were on the right track just A. Short of version of where we went from there, we started shooting a videos for you to one of them. When by rows of video call condie rice wraps, but it got to us today back when that was good enough to get you signed to see a young. We're going to be the Jib Jab guys sure enough and You know so we we got. We went to ask them for the comedy festival and Jimmy Fallon saw some of our work in the highest because he's taking over the tonight show, not tonight show late night second overnight from Conan and That was when our lives changed. We packed up our lives. We've moved to New York. We're there for the next four years writing slow down the news and history of rap and a bunch of real housewives of late night comedy, and just having a lot of fun in thirty rock, and it was that was. That was our break into this business. Sketch sketch and Improv people I feel like have such a leg up in the business. Because you are. Your writers and performers, and you know how to produce like you have to know how to produce. It really just seems to encapsulate you know. Stand up as such its own specific thing that a Lotta Times can be difficult to translate into other parts of business when you do what you do. It you learn so many different facets of the basics of storytelling storytelling as quickly as possible again producing writing acting all the different elements that make lighting music. You know all the different elements that make a show show. And Chris I gotta say. I've never thought of like this before. At is so interesting because I've spent most of my creative life envying the people who can get up with just a Mike and tell jokes to room full of people who don't know them. Sometimes. They're drunk. A WEIRD You know like like I I've always said so much respect because I I would love to do. Stand up I, don't I don't understand it I? Don't think it can be necessarily taught to person. Even though there have been times in my life ever slows down. I'm going to sign up for like a introduction to stand up class or some point baton and do that, but by do the you're right about the production element because when you schedule. Even. If you're just doing on a stage, you have to figure out okay. We have this much money, so we're going to spend this much on weeks. been this much on costumes we're. GonNa try and pay everybody just a little bit like that's like baseline very basic production. You're right like that. That's a side of it that I feel like you only get when you. Honestly anybody working at SNL or late night with seth or tonight show. To produce their own bit so when you. It than at nine am in the morning and Jimmy comes back with the decisions about which sketches are going to be in the show that night at eleven when you basically have two hours to rewrite, do some basic pre-production than Walkman Jimmy read with Jimmy and then for the next two hours three hours. You're literally running around every department trying to figure out. Okay, I need this much, you know Jimmy's guitar going work with the roots on the song. Give me those wigs in that aired I and like all that stuff has to be done. By the time the audience fills at five o'clock now. Everybody's working from home now, so it's much different piece. I. Don't know how you produce these shows in a in a cove environment. It seems like everybody's doing much more intimate discussions by a stop in the sketches have been greatly toned down, but if we ever find that vaccine. It'll be interesting. But I think it's sketch, I mean first of all I think could stand up. Because if you just did it a bunch, you'd figure it out and you know what I would say. This to sketch people is like if you're interested in trying, stand up. A ultimately I think stand up is really it's it can be hard when you don't do it a lot to think about it because what you don't realize is like Oh your. You tend to think of some other thing when you're doing. Stand up you doing some of the thing, but it's just. The more you, you can draw out on stage like your the thing, and that's kind of hard to conceptualize at some point because you're like I'm just me. I don't know what you know within the more you do it, you figure it out, but with at least with sketch people to you could probably write from the point of view of like the character of Diablo first. And then that I'm. Not GonNA lie. That is such an instrument. Maybe I should just pretend like Biala riddles a character in this raid because I have A. I will say I have written, not stand up material, but like there's a pretty famous comedian who came to us. One time was like I. Just want you guys to tell me like some areas that you think is right by stand up to, and so then we would just like go through the news pullout things that had happened and then just say hey. We think these are interesting. Takes on what's happened, and then he would go off and right, but I but. But maybe if I had to think Oh, I need to write. As wasn't Chris Rock, but like if I was like. Oh, I'M GONNA. Write some stuff in the Voice of Chris Rock I mean that gets towards the heart of like having a clear voice to write in having a pov people like because we all know that Chris. Rock is going to be different from a Dionne coal job is going to be a Marlon Wayans, joke or something, right, yeah! But I just I. You know what I noticed about. You know particularly with show south side. Is that your first episode already felt like it could have been season three. You know where it's like. Because the characters are so well defined, and I I can't help but wonder. Do you think like when when you have such a strong background in sketch and you're putting on a live show and you're doing a series of sketches. Think. It's fair to say like there's really no like all the characters have to be very clearly defined for the audience because they have to know right away. They have to get right away. What the angle on the scene is, so they can follow along with it yet. Well, you know we. A couple of things on them first off. I think one of the reasons why southside bill so lived in from the very first episode is that we would not have our way to ask people who were not actors in Hollywood we went to Chicago and did all are auditioning there. And in some cases they were just people from Beshir's passed. As be sure grew up in Chicago. I grew up in Atlanta. He gotTA, so if there was a character who drove a bus. It might be that guy who it might be a guy who actually drives the bus. You know what I mean like. There's actually a pretty fun seeing an episode to where we were shooting on a bus, it was supposed to be our version of of speed. GotTa Watch the show. It'll make sense. But, we were shooting an episode. It was supposed to be taking place on a bus and the bus driver, who was just a natural Chicago bus driver was saying live made us laugh, so we were like. Hey, let's turn the camera around and put him on. I mean I think. Some of that has to do with our time at balance because balance. The cast of the show changed every day like every day. There was a new guest stars, so you had to figure out. How to get them to bitten to the fit into the show, and similarly we would do a lot of work on southside with people who were not professional actors, but they were sunny people, so it's just a matter of getting them to stay themselves. Not Somehow become an actor portraying themselves so I think that's why the show felt like it could have been in season three because those are chicagoans. You know there's there's there's very little artists there. I think the most famous person. One is probably low rail, or maybe killed Mitchell, but everybody in that show budget Gago. Except for me I'm the one Baker who? We actually address that in season two But Yeah I think that that's A. It's a lot of fun working on south side because it's. It's there's so much. Authentic. There's like I said we didn't. We wind to the city and we had very rigorous audition process, and we've found some counted actors who'd never done anything outside of theatre local theater. And so having that I for talent to does it. Does it sort of make you go? Oh, why don't we go to more cities and find like instead of just? You know the same pool of actors that. Does it sort of inspired to go. You know if we uncovered this treasure. Trove of people in Chicago how many other cities have performers that we should curiously I mean listen, I should say are verse. Worry into scripted was actually show about Atlantic brothers, in Atlanta was the show about my hometown, and it was the first thing we did after fallon, and we were in development at HBO for for Very Long Years, and it's. It's still a little bit of a bit of humor. Because we learn so much on that, we're able to take those lessons in quite honestly even some of those ideas and apply them to south side, but I've been Atlanta. My God like this I can't go to Atlanta without laughing why? There's so many personalities in the city of Atlanta talks to you like you can be in line. At the Varsity, you can be an uber like. He wasn't Lanna Talk. In their perspectives in that accident that I grew up hearing because my family's from La I was the weird. Okay didn't have Atlanta. But you know like I have the same high school as good mob, and we went to the rival high school of outcasts like those thick accents. Of, the city like I. I still dream of doing a show in Atlanta one day because I. Just think Atlanta's bubbling over with just funny people I would love to pull that down one day. and Are you. Are you starting to get to a point where? Because I imagine there's Gonna I imagine you're probably at a point where there's so much stuff coming in. Do. You want to be able to say yes to everything. You still have that sort of that that young performer thing where you're like Oh my God I can't I gotta I can't say no to work like this is what I worked for. You know, but at a certain point you only have people only have so much energy in their bodies, and so how are you sort of staying on course and picking and choosing and making sure that weird way? This industry has a weird sometimes choosing for you. There's a project that you I I would love to happen. Just I can tell you this has happened. The right now. It looks like we're on hold, and it's only because the executive we've been working with. Might be you know. Might be unceremoniously tossed out at some point. You know what I mean like. It kills me because this is an idea and I can. I will I won't out right now because I don't WanNa get in trouble, but. Let's just say it's a spin off of movie that I'm sure most people love, but they would not think there's a spin off there, but I've seen in eight million times, and there's a character in a five minute scene I'm like what is that Guy Story? What is this story is amazing, and then we've built this entire. Like deep deep twenty page outline of what his movie would be and. I I really hope that it happens. We've partnered with the producers of the original movie. This would be big news if it happens but right now. I don't know if it's GONNA. Happen because again. some of the producers who attach the original movie are having a hard time. With the right now and you know. I just thought that they keep their job long enough so that you know we can make this movie. It would be ten-year-old as dream, come true to make this movie at I. Mean The thing about this businesses that you you never know like just when you never know which one's GonNa port. I saw that was the actual answer question. Yes, you have ten IBS. Thrown at and my theory has always been like. Yeah, let's see where this goes because you look up the next day at all of A. A sudden. It's down to eight. You know I guess the problem becomes as if you know. They all go forward and I feel like that's a probably a good problem to have, but that's never actually happened, but it, but but I'm saying also that this thing could could go away and then six months later. It's like Oh, we're shooting next week. Wait hang spinoff idea. We love it. Under present we wants put all of our eggs into one basket. It was called. It was called our time at HBO. We turned out so many offers to really this one thing. This is our baby and we were there. We always said we were like Castro. We were there for three different presidents HBO when we arrived, it was one person, and then somebody else took over, and then by the time we were being pushed out the door after making two pilots by the way. To posit Istan by this day, a you know. We were serving third president, so it's just a really it can be really tough. Sometimes to see products that you love your heart go away, but that's why you have to have a couple of lines out there because you don't know which one is going to actually make it all the way through. We were shocked. Shocked that we actually bid Sherman showcase zoo just IFC and we pitched US outside to just comedy central and we were shocked. The big both went four, but we never thought they both make it to pilot. They both made the pilot and they both major series, and they both got one hundred percent on rotten tomatoes late, both got one hundred percent on round tomato and. At that point we felt like you know what the the the dreams that we had. When we first started out in this business, they felt validated. Because you know even if one gone ninety nine percent would have been like all that stinker in La. They both got one hundred percent. We both in their very different shows, and we put a lot a lot of hard to both. We. Really did and do you feel like having a partner like Bashir is that did that. Does that make the journey? Easier in a sense because you have someone else to keep you going I, mean do you guys is there? Is there like it is one of you more negative or do you trade off? Like how do you? It's a total SORTA. I think sometimes the perception of mature. Is that oh? The Allison is wooded and Bashir's the shares, the tough guy like we really do our own personal time. We have quite a bit of trade off because they're definitely sometimes when I'm the pessimist like. That thing's never going to happen. They're definitely times when I'm the one like. Test is going to happen. You know It's like A. It's like a weird dance I always. Even my wife is just like that's your first marriage like you know. We known each other other for when we meet, we met in nineteen ninety five, so it's been twenty five, but five years man. Your friendship is the same ages MTV's singled out. It gives you a night younger than the grind so I think we're. Talking. About the grind like to. Talk. Was Eric needs that is very nice from Sierra in the real world. Oh my God the grind. Those show like the yeah, that was basically. That was trained Brim TV that was like it was videos and people dancing I missed the good data. That's kind of the reason one of the reasons. I like German. Showcases were able to put so much spotlight on dancers like a by the way there are dancers. We auditioned him one time for their ability to dance, and the second audition was all jokes like we wanted to audition people who could be both good dancers and be talented Comedians, and I've been blown away by some of our dancers on camera because they are so frequent funny. They know their way around Joe's. I kind of wanted the debt. I will showcase dancers to be as famous like the fly girls on in living color or the solid gold dancers like I wanted them to have their own fame outside of the show. I was also excited that I. Don't know this might be a spoiler. This spoiler cut it out, but you you. You sort of casually throughout that there is a. Last Dragon Scott Beuller not as boiler. There's a last year and. I said to you I've seen that movie probably two hundred times on. The there to people like when I I and I said to you when I was doing singled out like we would have. Sometimes we'd have celebrity guests come on and pick from the dating pool and tarmac. Who was who played Bruce Leroy Leroy. Came on the show, and I was beside myself with joy I meant. I must've told. Him, I hope so thousand percent like I've seen your movie so many times like I was, I was so beside myself to the point that I also said nor so often I'll go on and see if I can find like a you know a Daddy Greens Pizza T shirt proper some. This we have the Somebody has made a Daddy Greens pizza teacher. Right I've seen my probably like a red bubble like I. Don't know if I think just like fans have made them. You know the just director, your feet to the data green speech, but but I liked while has some some one of a kind shirts. The he's made the reference last drag I. Feel like I've seen one I wish. I. It said, but yeah I hope more people what? That movie was not only just a super cool and fun movie, but like a genuinely groundbreaking piece of cinema. And I feel like every who saw like immediately wanted to like. Karate Chop and kick every single thing you saw coming out of the movie. Like is just like you just couldn't control your hands bed movie. Everybody wanted the glow if one of the glow. You know like you like a good fighter could get their hands, Soglo but a great fighter. Get their whole body to glow. I didn't even know that there was like I didn't know. That grizzly Bursley was known as the Dragon, so the idea that it's called. The last dragon literally is just Berry Gordy tried to make some money off of Karate Kung Fu bad. You know like it's such a in some ways it could have been such a cynical exercise and but yet we loved it, and the soundtrack is ray to like the the Vanity Song Seventh Heaven Like I. Put that on at a party one time when people lost it like is not a song that you think you know, but if you hear you like. The song. Say. Evans and What is she talking about? Big. Though, once you. Can't get it on. That and Actually have. A I have on my phone when you got to go, you need you need to go to grow grow. Willie Hutch the Guy Who des! Good work it out. Like he did so many classic songs for movies in some ways he's need mark. Mothers BAUGH OF BLACK SET OF A. fucking, greatest. celebrated. That is the most genius. Talk Music for days. I feel like there's certain people marred mothers Blah at. And who's my other favorite Al-Ghani Elf. Man, those are those are my two. I mean like I. Think The music for the nineteen eighty-nine nine. Batman is the most perfect score that has ever been written I even if you don't like Batman. Like that score I bought that CD and I must that CD I listened to eight hundred I did everything is pre. Prince was pretty good. Bad dance got a really bad rap. I be like I feel like millennials, only no bad bands as punchline to sean the dead. But. I was there and bad dance when it came out was pretty special, it was it was not to keep using analogies. It's the mode slash, but he mean rhapsody of Batman movies, because like it has like four by got the big bail. They give I like madman. Like, it's got three totally different parts to it, and it's a it's a fantastic. I say let Prince play the joker. This whole big like I'll do the Soundtrack Jab to let me play the joker. They told him no. You'RE NOT GONNA. Play in jokers. WE'RE GONNA? Get this Jack Nicholson character. Where is Jag is Jack K.? I feel like no like eleven years. Jackson is eighties I. I'm sure he must be in his eighty s by now i. don't I honestly don't know that's a strangely the European? Like they must not be alive. The fear out that Dead in just like a eighty-three. Nicholson is eighty three, but also wanted act anymore. I mean this is. They're not gene wilder. WHO's The guy? He's still alive, but he never. He never does anything Oh gene. Gene. Hackman I would imagine at a certain point. I. You probably have to. When people are that. Good and they really like know how to immerse themselves, you know. It probably just feels like Oh God I don't fuck and feel like leaving my house to do that out. Like what do I need more attention? How much more money like what is it that I? Need and I think that it was really fun to do it like they did it. With, me out of. there. You know they were like Hey Jack Warner. You can give me out of this race play. They have no interest in livings in smartphone. Era Hollywood meeting. What did you do for baby driver because I? Read that you said that you did you telling. Yeah Yeah. Represents a Edgar and Aga- right and he was like look. I know that you're doing I'm not gonNA take, my agent is very tempting. He's such a character but he He told me that Edgar was shooting in Atlanta. He knew that I was from Atlanta that I had a great interest in music and can i. just put you guys together. We met little. Domes over in Los Villas, and we hit it off and I feel like we're wild like we were just buddies. Something happened on the news I'd be like Edgar. Did you see that thing you know like we like just buddies? And And then we would, we would talk about music. We talked about so much music for baby driver, and admittedly the time I had no idea that he. Really, meant it when he was like. The music is GonNa be the third character in the in the movie, and when I finally saw a cut of it. I was blown away and I felt ridiculous, because it gave me the chance to have a walk on speaking part in this thing and I was shooting are Stupid Pastry O. Eilly time as I didn't take him up on, it I would have loved to have been physically in the movie as well, but we work on the music of baby trapper together. And, do you? Is there any one particular thing that you like more than the other in terms of acting writing show running music, like what or is it just? It's one of those things where I missed. Being the most. That I'm not currently doing like right now I'm like wait. Am I ever going to be able to do any act like it's a weird times? I missed a lot, but I think this is the greatest gift of all to be able to wake up in the morning and some days you have writing and acting in other days you might have acting and just reading. You know I, think it's always tell people young people who are trying to get into this business that if I have any advice, try to be a member of all three of the major guilds writer. Director and SAG just try just try it. You know because. I think creative people, truly creative people have a lot of things off, or we just finished shooting Sherman showcase by Kesri mother spectacular. We're putting John. Legend in front of the camera. Again I always have people say. Wow! Journal was really funny when you guys were I didn't know that he had those. New grits I didn't know it was so funny. John is hilarious and he's actually a really good actor. He Memorized I. Can tell you memorize his. Lines in the in the way Elkin. His breathing style is very similar to any singing so i. just think that if you're if you're a creative person, give it all try. It doesn't mean that you have to devote even time to everything, but at least in the case of this year and I? We we really enjoy everything. Up at like this, when I was on the Joe Marlin, I love being just an actor on that show amid that I do not in the writer's room until three a m trying to figure out how it's islet a story. I just showed up the next day like a jerk. Are let's see this girl. You guys grow all right I'd have to stand there and say that okay, that's that's. All right I'll just waiting oddness Wigan. I love just being an actor on that show, and there've been other shows where I wouldn't want to be in front of the camera I. Just WanNa ride them so I you know every day is a little bit different, and thankfully we do something different every day. But. Something that I would love your advice on is I, think one of the what a really challenging thing in the business can be to assemble the right writer's room for the project right because you really have to assemble this kind of justice, League of different types of especially in comedy, different type like everyone has their own superpower, but then they all have to work together, and so how do you because it feels like on all the stuff that you work on you really get the best out of your group out of your school farmers and out of your and writers, and and so how? What? Yeah I'll tell you what it is on Sherman's. We always knew that this was supposed to be a show that everybody can enjoy, but music nerves in particular have to absorb like that's gotta be the demographic, and so I hired everybody who ever talked about music with in terms of like the the comedy writers I knew like, and even some people I'd never met before. One of the guys on Sherman's just having to go to my. Old High School and I knew Rob Hey. You Know Rob Hayes He's from Atlanta and he's about ten years younger than me. But he came to US via his agent or whatever I read his package. It was really funny and then I started talking to him on the bone, and we I have rarely giggled so much like we were talking about everything for two live crew who dancehall music I can tell you just really knew his stuff. When it came to music I was like this is a perfect fit, and then there are other people who brought in Emily Goldwyn! Is a you know she's kid. You grew up out here with a really interesting a story which I won't go into right now, but like she was like a, she was A. Talented who reminded me talking music with a hipster, friends and I, and still just so funny sense of humor so weird. And she's just a quirky individual in her cell. Like I want her in the room, so it was really that was a conversation about music with southside, because we wanted to just live and breathe the city. We we reached out to all the bunny as Comedians that we knew were from Chicago, who were also comedy writers. We interviewed a ton of. People there. A lot of people you probably know, but we ended up hiring those enactments. We ended up who thought were funny. But also when you read their script, they could tell a story because we knew that as opposed Sherman, which is more like a sketch show southside really wanted the stories to be really tight. We wanted him to. Have you know really good structure in a? Couple of people with our funny, their scripts were a little weak The people who we hire for the people who had great scripts analysts, so every shows a little bit different. It depends on what you're. Trying to get yet, but you still have to get those performances and still get that material like as the. It it's not. It's not just enough to be like a funny person or a good writer. You also have to sort of be like A content personality manager at the same time right because you have to kind of draw it all out and make sure that because you're guiding the direction of everything well, you know I will say that we've worked in every type of room. We were in ruins where it was very cliquish and Not like this. The Room is all they're going to laugh at their own jobs, but they're never gonNA laugh at the people across the table like some rooms are like that Lorne as even said in interviews that he likes to keep. A little just because he feels like that level of competition is like the stone versus the Beatles that keeps everybody on their toes. I think Bashir I've always wanted to take a slightly different approaches. Make everybody feel like you're loved. Pitched jokes that are absolutely garbage and we're not going to judge you. You know because we do. We really want everybody feel safe, because we think we're going to get the best. Best material when everybody feels just stayed in the room like a thousand percent degree, comedians I feel like see. Some comedians thrive in toxic environments. I thrive in comfortable environments, and and that was always our mission with like when people would come on at midnight. It's like let's let the comics feel as comfortable in loved as possible so that they blossom so that they open up. You know as opposed to. Yet the feeling judge things like I. Get nervous if I feel like. Someone's judging. My jokes and I feel less inclined like I shouldn't say. This is gonNA sound stupid, but when you feel free to like, you can fuck around, you know. then. I just feel like it's better if it's like everyone wins, you know. I think so, too. You know there's a funny story about since Caesar's writer's room. which everybody if you if you have it? If you don't know this story, just go ahead and Google. The Sid Caesar Show and look at the list of people he had that room. are still some of them are still alive. Amazingly It's a murderer's row. Some of the best comedic writers ever. Add but apparently since either was a complete jerk and he liked. We know of bay, people, and really make you feel terrible about yourself all in an effort to in his mind, get the best material fast and Griffin one of the guys who worked on that show Andy. Griffin gets approached by the network. And then they're like. Hey, Griffith! We're GONNA. Do a show with you at the heart of it at. He's like I. Have No interest in. They're like why we're offering here show. What are you talking about? You don't have interest and he's like. I see what it takes to be. The head of the show and I would never WANNA do that. He's like I. is you gotTa be to mean and Nasty? Just you know you can imagine Abbey, Griffin same staff been his. Yeah. I just don't have any interest in it and they said we'll. Here's the deal, Andy. If you're the boss, you can set whatever tone you want. As when the lights went off into said, and apparently he was one of the very nicest people in this industry you could ever work with. because. He was a German out to be season. So only God, that's really incredible, imagined that when they said that Tim in the light went off, the cameras pushes into his face, and in his head you here. Like you've. Written the end of episode wine. Of the. Story. That opening credit sequence was in his head. He just imagined. The writer's room is a kid going fishing in? Be Great. Room I just want my rod and reel to be walking down the street I. Just WanNa feel like we're just gonNA. Go go catch a trout. That's what says the shows is going to be a catching Dodds was really nice. Guy I have a real love of those early Hollywood days, which is a little bit weird, because as an. African American like you often big light. They of even liked me. You know like it's I've literally. There have been times when I I'll look up the name of a of a of a person who's artwork. Rodin look at Rodin. Been Type, the word race is just to make sure that there's not something terrible asset on the about you know. But I also heard like stories about who is really magnanimous, who was really nice to people and one of my favorites Jack Benny. I think that the the character. Rochester it Kinda grates on today's ears because you know you don't want to hear a Balsam all that kind of job, but if you really listen to those old Jack Benny shows, they are excellent. In the way that the Bob Hope shows are not like the Bob hope shows such timely jokes like the punch line will be like while I wouldn't say I was Roosevelt in the audience goes crazy to get timely reference, but the Jack Benny show had characters there so well defined that whether they're making timely jokes or not timely jokes. Characters are so well defined like it's just. It's funny to be to this day like I love to hear his interplay with his bandleader, and and we Rochester, and with all the all the wonderful care doesn't apparently Jack Benny another one just a nice guy. I was watching a Hartmann talked to Letterman in like ninety three interview. He was saying he's GonNa Make Jack. Benny. Movie. EEK breaks out like a spot on Jack Bidding. Impression I was like holy smokes spill. Go and and I'm really savvy. Didn't get to make it because he died like a year later. Something like that. And Phil Phil understood like you know there's a true men. She dudes in our business who? Are just really nice, super talented, super funny people to work with. Yeah, and honestly it really feels like. You know those Jack Benny Stories, hopefully, inspire people or the Andy Griffith Story. It's like Oh. Yeah, you, can you know particularly inject base case because I think you know since Caesar probably made himself the. All sketches and Jack Benny I think probably made himself the Beta of the absolutely Jack Benny basically just walking through a a a roomful of crazy people who get the big joke in he gets they get to shit on him, and he just kind of looks to camera, and and he wanted people to he. Raisins, yes, yes, because he just felt like Oh. People should shine. It's still technically my show. White Bear Lake should shine JAG BITI show. You don't have to keep grooving into US night after night like. Jack was known for giving everybody else. The Big Punch line and I think beds awesome, and by the way, if you give them the punchline, then you get to come in with like sorta understated like straight man pumps line, which in my opinion is like completely underrated like I feel like Michael J. Fox like the King of light, letting mallory say some crazy stuff, and then he would just say really now, and he would get another joke. You know like A. Like what you really? Honestly as a writer, what I strive for is for a characteristic of the so of stirred at hilarious that the other character all they have to do is just sort of pause. The audience has already laverick. They know that they heard. We've all heard this crazy thing being said. It's slow and across the blade. The home run is is yours agreed to come up with the right understated response. You know you. You reminded me of my favorite. Alex peaking moment, which was it was that exact thing where Mallory told some completely impossible to follow story that made a lot of sense to her admitted just ended, and the story didn't really have an ending in. There was a pause and Alex. goes. It's quite a gripping tale mallory like. It was such a cut in this like took fucked up way and I didn't understand because I was just a little kid, so I really understand that the joke of that show was. super-conservative kid with super hippy parents, just totally I kinda understood that, but looking back I'm like Oh. Oh, I get it now like he was you know. He was a briefcase young Republican Club. They were like the free love hippies, and so that's that was where the tension came from I had berry sort of like very pro black, conscious parents and I was watching family ties and I didn't adopt all of the Reagan politics, but I definitely was impressionable enough that I started wearing a suit, I started wearing a tightest rule every day, carrying all buy books at a in a briefcase, and all of that is due to Michael J. Fox making it looked so fun making yes. But you only had to wait like a year before then you started wearing sleeveless puffy vest from back to the future. So is you become someone whereas a puppy says I do think that go back to the which I think you're going to say I do. Ask them if they jumped ship. The life preserver. Let's do I. Can we talk about two quick? Oh Jason. Bateman, not a bad off Jimi teen Wolfer Teen Wolf Te'o Jason Bateman AFC. Oh, I, mean the original Teen Wolf yes. Yes, yes, yeah, we can talk about the original teen Wolf. Is excited reminded a like somebody who tried to come after by the defense, but it wasn't a bad movie. You know like I. Feel like it definitely killed off that. Franchise but I I liked it was akin firstly. You know that was fun and Doc Hollywood is a fun re-watch every once in a while is a really I don't know if I saw that one as a kid. I, that's one that I missed that Dan ackroyd. Doc Hollywood is Michael J. Fox big city doctor. He's driving cross country car breaks down in a small town. He like runs over the judges fence, so they make him the town doctor while his car is being repaired and they keep going to keep him there, but he wants to go be a plastic surgeon and La, so it is just one of those like I. Do not Oh, A. But at the core of it is just like sure you think the flashing big cities all great, but when you really Kinda Strip, it all away the most important thing or your neighbors and a glass of lemonade on your parts like it's one of those. It's one of those types of movies I got it. I. I'm curious what you know in a time right now where it just feels like. Twenty. Twenty is just a series of like really what the fuck you know like! How are you personally? Finding spots of joy. How are you able to? In and how were you able to sort of communicate? To your kids on days where I'm sure you feel like I don't fucking even WanNa. Get up and look at the news. I know it's going to be miserable in Meow, like what are you? What are you doing in those moments? Are you funneling into comedy? Do you meditate like what's I? Wish my Mary I-. Meditation is one of those things I'm like. Why don't I just do it? Like just do it like he clearly works. Can Get to it. I haven't been sitting around depressed the whole time I mean like either win. Cova I came along. You know that was. Absolutely terrifying and obviously still dealing with it when the demonstration started, actually belt encouraged because it seemed like for the first time in my lifetime, people were like seriously taking concrete steps to address something that has been a problem for centuries so. I'm one of the people who I feel like. There's hope you know. Some of the some of the new laws being passed some of the. Things that are happening, I feel. And I hope that the rug is just pulled out from underneath all of this, but I. Feel hopeful that this might actually lead to some long chains, because I've actually been shocked at some of the other things that have happened seemingly overnight in my lifetime like. When gay marriage was was approved by the Supreme, court, like I. I think sometimes there can be just like a groundswell and things can get better for a lot of people and am so. I feel a little bit encouraged by that I don't. I don't think that my personal comedy has changed at all because it's always been just about like what am I seeing? What do I think is true? If anything it seems like nowadays, people are more open to perspectives that are necessarily their own perspective of Specter. They grew up with definitely not the parent's perspective so again I've. Fought me for being optimistic. I feel hopeful that you know. Times are getting better in some ways. I hope so too, and I don't want to. I, don't WanNa gloss over the fact that you just said something that was so that was like. The any comedy writer, or any writer really should listen to to the extent that I'm. Legitimately GONNA write it down and try to remember my stand up, but it's USA. What do I see in what's true? I mean even just that might seem so just. Oh, that's what you're supposed to do. But I feel like it's something that I certainly forget most of the time. Oh Yeah. I'm not writing a job for the sake of a joke. What am I saying? What am I seeing? What's true like? I hope you understand how much I appreciate. What a stunningly! Simple and elegant and beautiful piece of advice that is that I hope people really absorb are creative types. I appreciate a man. you know I think the results are always better when you write whatever your see because you know, we have a song on the black history month. Special called some Kim Tech and we wrote it in October last year because our families light Kim Tae cloth was like that thing that your parents were. Maybe you wore to graduation. GRADUATION GETS A. A stole that a lot of black is aware college, but you know. We thought it was just a funny idea for a song, and then literally the week that it was coming out because we're on mad decent, which is diploid label. The week that was coming out was the same way that like Nancy Pelosi and Chuck Schumer wearing a Kim. Take Law. In, honor of George Lloyd of people thought that we'd come up with that song within like three or four. there. Can't believe you guys. You guys are ranked comedian time and I'm like guys. This thing was written and shot in January. again I feel like the world is coming around opening his eyes. Some things have been hiding in plain sight. I'll say and. I think again. You just gotTa Yeah you just gotTa look around man. I really have enjoyed. We run into each other a couple times that events and you always been so nice to me and so like complimentary of at midnight, and it really means a lot to me because. I'm a fan of your work and I. Really I have so much respect for what you do, and it always makes me feel good. because. Even if you were just nice to be, it would make me feel good, but the fact that you liked the show that i. you know like the shows that I've worked on It really means a lot to me and I I've enjoyed our text back and forth, and I really really appreciate getting to know you and I, really just I don't know I I would be I would. I would hope that we get to do something together to actually be able to get together in person one time you know, it's no my God that would be awesome. now I think it's all really cool man. You know like a van going back to the meltdown, the meltdown days and I'm just You know I really. WanNa see what what what comes next. And hopefully we can find something that we can work on because I think we have a lot of the same touchstones and. It'll be a lot of fun. and. That's one of the fun things I love about. This kind of journey through comedy is that? When you meet people that you really connect with. Maybe. This is a getting older thing, but you really understand how precious that is, and how special that is because you know it doesn't. I mean you know like comics can sort of dog pile jokes on top of one another all day long, but when you meet someone else that you know like. We understand all the same references. We got a lot of the say I mean I don't know it, just it, just it. It's it feels like. Let's you build your room. You find the people who you like talking to for hours and hours about movies, comics, TV, and all that stuff and then. Out of those conversations comes something really pleasant, because if if it can make a room of the right eight to ten people laugh, trust me. There are other people out there. who were were laughing I I I always say my formative years of thinking like oh TV I. Maybe I can do that one day I feel like it started with. The show starred with the show moonlighting, but But like everything that I've tried to do in my career way more to the work of Light Jazz Weeden. Feel like He. He tries to invest every single scene with some level of Easter, egg or fan service or just it's almost like his love letter to humanity because he and I feel like that's what we've always tried to do. We've always tried to do something that you know we. Like this if we were writing TV shows, I would be writing band fiction using other people's care. You know what I mean like. Like. I did ways. Media Time in college, adding to the Cannon of the Star, wars expanded Universe's down. None of that stuff is Canon and all by all my labors as mounted nothing but. I do hope that I do hope that one day we get to work on something that'd be a lot of fun. Is there anything else that you're working on that? You WanNa talk about promotes anything I think. Out of just a real quick showcase. The black spectacular is coming on AMC. Night Ten PM and then is actually a marathon season. One on IFC starts at eight. PM, and then it ends at eleven pm. With a second airing of the Sherman showcase spectacular We just finished work on this John Legend Bottles Day special. That is going to be really funny. That's on ABC on Father's Day this Sunday, and then separately I did. I did a short with Tracy Morgan for the espy's? That'll be airing on Sundays well. And you'll I think you'll appreciate this I play I play hang a long lost cousin Hank Williams junior named tank Rilya. GMS AND And I sing a very cool song on. The State of sports that I won't I won't cheated anymore that. was there and just also musically. Is there anything else that you're I mean? You're probably riding a lot of songs for the shows that you're working. For German showcase season, one soundtrack is out on mad visa. I've really had more fun than working with them. On these soundtracks. There's also a separate soundtrack, just the black history of and I actually think that's the killer soundtrack is we've got? We've got house music. We've got a Jamaican dancehall. We've got you know some trap. We've got a little bit of everything for everybody on that. Uh Soundtrack and I've really enjoyed. I meant not. L. So music spending cuts with the beginning. Yeah, I know I know. You're thinking way too cool for Acapella. Acapella groups are you kidding me? I can go nerdy ashamed of myself, but yeah. We were Naga Bella. Group we we splintered, off. Our, previous Capella Group informed our group with a couple other friends, brothers, and we were there to sing like you know secular songs like Jodi and silk and shy a bunch of NYC, nineties R&B H. One of us thought we were ushering in, so that was. My College Years in involves I ironically love acapella groups like when I was in college, I had take six CD that I listen to over and over and over and tried to I tried to map out all the harmonies. But I just wasn't I'm not I'm not great like that's when I realized that. That's not something I'm great APP because it. But just the interweaving of voices tour. Every voice has a very specific point in space to bury. Perfectly compliment, a group of other voices at that point in space and then. Zigzagged around like it just to me I can almost see it Guy, who was? Leader of our group Sheldon. Hughes amazing in terms of like sometimes I'm harmonies are so are divided, and you're just like you really want me to sing that note. That's really gonNA sound good with all those other. Notes in there and that was I feel like that takes hold. Talent said that I don't understand, but the harmonies were were magical and that I'm so happy that I got an before it became. The. What the pitch perfect movies came out. You know what I mean like. I feel like they're all these people like. They're so much more theatrics inaugural now when we were doing. All Gabella is a lot more of this and you know. The crocodiles were at Harvard in the whistle booths were at a dentist. There was the beginning group the dentist tonics. There's always some witty name for the group. That was always a whole nother. They jetted all other. That was a whole other layer that you had to had to be some sort of a weird thing, but it I've always found it very difficult to listen to someone else singing and not start to veer into their like not yet into their lane, so it's like you have to listen, but then block off the part of your brain. That wants to follow. It stick to go down here and then up there and then. I'd always at our. We always did four part harmony there. They're obviously like is many parts as people nowadays, but four part harmonies always gave because. Even if you wanted to go up there, you probably don't WanNa go up. You know like you'd always like. I was I was A. I'm pretty sure. I didn't slip up until like ten or something like that are spreading I was okay, but yeah. Those are fun times. You know there's always to get in front of people in an perform, but we you know have. A coffee shop probably saying at your car. Well. It's really good to see you I'm glad that we got to see each other. At least even via zoom and and hopefully one of these days when I guess people can technically go out and do stuff now, but it still feels like it's not allowed. You know what I mean. It still feels like I. Agree with you man trick. Are you sure I was really? I'm with it as me. I see people on their edgy stories like I'm out I'm not scared of anything thing. I'm like Oh God. This is not like. It doesn't look fun to me I. Think What's interesting things that I don't even miss like I don't. I don't Miss Driving to work. Like most of what I do for a living like I can do here except for ya going for the cameras or something like that, so you know I i. don't miss a whole. Do Miss a lot of staff. I mean like seeing people, but I don't miss like. Going to the two. Dollars. You miss well head. I I missed two things I would go to a cafe every morning and right. That was part of my writing ritual. Okay, that's barely written anything since I've been at home. Because I'm not I'm just not in my ritual hard to compartmentalize it yet and I miss doing standup. You know like I just miss I miss live performance, but outside of that lives in Iowa. My wife and I are like total homebodies, and you know when they're like. Don't go anywhere. We're like no problem. You know. You got it. How long you know, and so yeah, you're right. We had a pitch meeting at AMC and we did it all yesterday, and we did it all via video conferencing, and I thought about the three hours that I wasn't in my car, driving back and forth the Santa Monica in rush hour traffic. And then going, it's better for the environment. You know so it I don't know yet so there I. DO think that the new normal will be some calm because I, said to the people like. Is there a reason to ever go back into opposite like well. You know it's like like socializing being around people, I go. Yes, but I wonder if moving forward, it'll be the balance of. You can, you can go in, but you don't have to all the time, and we can still economize our time in streamlines things and protect the environment in. You know like they're. It'd be a balance of those things of going someplace, but then also percentage of time now. We realize like you really have to. You really don't. The executives are derived from like Burbank all the way to your studio in Santa Monica and stuff like that like I feel like that's not needed anymore. Yeah, that you're not gonNA be able. To do a Californian sketch, but the valley. We'll probably from this point forward. Literally never go to Santa Monica Gavin like no, we don't have to. We have the technology now the reason for me to do that. That's what I do kind of miss those days. where I'd see you and I'd see all the dead stars, ed, I mean you're yeah, because I remember in the early days of walking dead, they would fly out to New York to do these like. Oh, it was probably for up fronts. And so I remember being at this event. And even at the time like I never took it for granted, and they had the space and it was like. Their. Normal was there and Steve Young was there, but then also Aaron Paul. Breaking bad breaking bad to in, they had this whole like so they would do the up front, and then they had this whole walk. The rovers like here's a walking dead set. And then they had people. You know they had these people making you know blue math in another room and it. was just such a fun. It was just like it was like a mini. Comic con sort of but Fred place that. You worked at I duNno when we were at HBO Like I, feel I gave a thrones was in its prime I'll never forget. They took over the entire Roosevelt hotel. We walked in and it was like they had archery. They have like these things you can put in your mouth and blow smoke out like a dragon like there was so much money in just the game of thrones parties alone. It was just insane and I I miss a good party. Man I you know. My birthday is coming up in lying. Fourteen days or something like that. I don't know what am I gonNa do is like hanging out of the house. Probably Zoom Zoom Party. Personal Invite Chris One Friday night after the second Aaron goes up at at Nine PM Pacific Time. Midnight out there, but. I am going to have zoom. Party and might soon. Parties have been real. does not mean by to my Bj Gig, but by Zoom Party who. Be like fifty people really flied. You can comfort two minutes. You can come for two hours. Whatever but I would like to I would like to send you. The advice of the louder I would love it. I would love to been some really fun. Night Lithgow Low John who I think. You might know from because I've seen him on the couch a few times. Violent lands, and just like really fun people in Zoom So. Nine, pm on Friday. You should come through zone. I would absolutely love. I would love that and I kinda WanNa. I kinda want to end with just I'm I'm just curious because we're talking about like. You're talking about your HBO experience at the Roosevelt was talking about AMC and stuff for you, how do you do you feel like you've made it? How do you know that you've made it because I guess when I look back at those moments. Did I recognize like? Oh I think I'm doing the thing that I set out to do. You recognize it when it's happening or do you feel like a lot of times? It's retrospective like when you look back and you go. Oh my God. Actually. That was a really cool thing I recognize that at the time. That at the time, so how do you? How do you? How do you know like? How do you define what is defined defined making it you're at. You know it's interesting This is probably not. Something I should be honest about, but I don't feel like I've made it I often tell my wife likes winners. Win Win. Win will I feel like I've accomplished anything in life like I. Just feel like I have not really accomplished. This is not me being quite I. Don't feel like I've accomplished a whole lot yet. I do hope that at some point You know like I'll have enough money to never worry about money again. At also creates something such a cultural touchstone that I feel like Oh. Yeah, I really I. Really did something there that was. That was really cool. And people definitely noticed that it push the needle in this direction. I mean to a certain that I feel like I have that with Sherman's in south side, but. There's something. You know I'm not saying that. I need the Aaron Spelling One hundred and twelve. Room Mansion, and like you know forty, you know for how many TV shows he do like two hundred and five TV shows over the rear I don't need Dick Wolf. You know levels of of residuals coming every month, but I do Kinda. Want a point in my life to just feel like you know I i. Have pushed the culture and I am feeling creatively fulfilled, and you know I can have a pool. You know afford our house. And that's like that's a really blunt. You know 'cause I think one thing that we were talking about earlier like in nineteen seventy six. You know if you had a show on the air. That was good. Nowadays, you know TV shows get six episodes eight episodes. They air. Maybe five hundred thousand people tuned in to the number one episode that season and you're just like sort of back to looking around to see what's new on the landscape I would love to. Have the impact that he's raised with insecure me that that that might be you know what I consider Kenya Barris has had success John. Arrives named three black show runners, but I I really do look up to You know all types of all types of people who worked in this industry and Hopefully at some point, it'll feel real I told you what you mean I think you. Private event by the way to me, you've made it. But I'm sure there have been times when you said have I made it in alike and I think that's just something that we all deal with I. Don't know I think sometimes. It feels it's retrospective. Because when you're in the moment, you're caught up in the momentum and you're trying so hard to keep all the plates spinning and to maintain and to not. Dry like not drop it. In, so it's it can be hard to live in the present you know and it really appreciation of anything is all about living in the present and so a lot of time to look back retrospectively go. Oh, yeah, actually. The thing was actually pretty cool oh yeah we did. That and so I just hope that you know in my mind. You have made it and also you know that I hope that. You know if whatever that metric is in your head of like finally. Okay, I have this thing or I've I feel like I've moved the needle in this direction and I. Have you know pool or whatever? I hope that you're not so conditioned to not see if you don't see you know what I mean like I hope you see as you are. Making a really great original, you know groundbreaking comedy and television, and you do so many different things. That you know it, just I don't know. Maybe some people need that kind of fire like they need to feel like. They've never quite made it to stay motivated. I don't know, but but I do hope that you're able to Take those moments and go. Oh, Shit, actually yeah to to show you know like I. Don't know it's you're doing a really fucking cool stuff. That and you know what I'm glad that we've had this conversation. Because I think if I have a more clear idea of what I'd actually like to do than maybe I can have a better idea of how to get there. was I I feel like. You know this conversation has left me a changed man in the sense. I'm not even kidding. I'm like you know what that is. A very good point. grits in what I need to spend some time thinking about that I I appreciate that and I also have been changed by the I like I really can't wait to go back and look at the jokes that I've been writing and saying what am I seeing and what is the truth of this like I? Burn those two questions on I'm going to pin them to. The top of my comedy notes list because I just think it's such a great foundation when you think about. A writing comedy rather than jokes jokes. Sake like what is this about? And what's truth of it? So I that I? Thank you for. Did. I can't wait to talk to you again. You never had luck with a special this week and hopefully I'll see the at the zoom Get together this zoom party. We call it. I forget what we call it, but it's a fun time, so I'll definitely send you the information. Cool. Thanks Tiao good to see him in the care take care. Katie you tell, thank you. Take, care bye. I need scanning complete enjoy.

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112: Dont Waste a Word: Cutting through the Fluff with TowerPoint Capitals Alex Bruschi

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112: Dont Waste a Word: Cutting through the Fluff with TowerPoint Capitals Alex Bruschi

"This episode is brought to you. Thanks to generous. Support of propose. Affi- outreach and terry berry to learn more about them and all of our sponsors who were supporting this show and this community visit top one dot. Fm forward slash sponsors. You're listening to the sales success stories. Podcast what we deconstruct. World class sales performers to provide insights and strategies to help you improve to learn more. Visit us at top one dot. Fm here's your host scott ingram today. I'm a sales success stories podcast. My guest is alex bruschi. Alex is the number one director of acquisitions at tower point. Welcome to the show. Alex great to be on. Scott how are you. i'm great. I've been so looking forward to this conversation because you are one of the full circle listeners. You went from. We had a conversation that i'm eager to dig back into in heavy. Remind me of exactly what that conversation was a couple of years ago and now here you are literally sitting at the top of the game number one in in your current role and you made the goal of being on the podcast so looking forward to come into that but we gotta start like we always do with that immediate value and. Let's talk about the top three things that got you here. What were those things. He had definitely looking forward to digging into that scott but as far as the three tips go number one is following a simple process consistently the main piece of of information. Here is going back on a previous episode. Actually i'd heard with stephen chase and kyle about not getting too attached in your outcomes as a sales person because you're gonna take yourself not only through the up and down roller coaster the day to day life. You're not gonna put through your your requisite actions in order to actually do your job. I wanted to also give a special shout out to the piece of having a simple process that the less complications there are in your way. The more effective. You'll be able to be beautiful. So number. Two two is being ultra specific simply. Don't waste a word. Nobody wants to hear fluff these days. And where is that that predominantly in the outreach in the prospecting you're doing or are you using map throughout your sale process. Da good question in general mostly throughout the sales process. It's kinda like when mom asks who stole the cookie from the cookie jar right and brother says no and you know the other brother says oh but i was in the backyard and doing this and doing that and so it couldn't have been me like you know who's who's lying so what i would say particularly is when there are specific questions that you're being asked about your product your service. Just give the direct answer. How much of that do you think comes into play because of the typical persona that you're selling to and we'll get to the point that we bring some context around this because you're in a unique type of sales role but do you think that that's a factor because of who your quote unquote buyer or in your case seller is right. Yeah that definitely plays a large large factor for reference in advance in most accounts that i'm working. I'm typically the twentieth thirtieth fiftieth person. You know to have ever reached out to them. So there's definitely a bit of a wall to break down at first. And that's where that conciseness can really help to break down some of those walls and build. Trust nice so what's the third point. Third point questions sell better than statements and this goes back to the old homage of you can't really make anyone changed their mind in terms of beating them with statement. Send your your reasoning and this and that nothing gets someone to think more internally than a question and furthermore any statement that you would have made anyway can always be rephrased into a question and not only. Does it sell better but it also has your prospects more involved and engaged in the process. Love that. I want to come back to that but i think it'll be helpful for us. I to have the context so talk about exactly what your role is what tower point does and how this works. It really is a pretty different thing. Definitely he asked so. I work as the director of acquisitions and territory manager tower point. We essentially are a cell tower. Read a cell tower real estate investment trust and for those unfamiliar. You could think. Cbre we purchase existing income streams associated with cell tower leases perfect and that includes the land. Like you're you're buying the whole thing. Typically right that depends. I don't wanna get too granular. A lot of times wearing capsule eating it in an easement. So there's no actually transfer fee ownership but for today's argument's sake. We have much flexibility with how we move forward. Which just only increases the need for good communication the sales process gotcha so now with that context. Maybe give an example of or two of win. You're talking to a cellphone tower owner. How you would use a question rather than a statement as part of that process. Yeah good question. So the major reasons that people transact with us is is to avoid income taxes right when you collect cell phone tower income on a monthly basis. You're paying ordinary income tax. Which is the highest tax bracket whereas if people sell the interest of their least two us it's either taxed as long term capital gains which is reduced tax rate or its eligible for what's called is ten thirty one exchange. Where if you use the money to purchase a brand new piece of property you don't end up paying taxes so let's say i'm talking to you and your on familiar with what a ten thirty one exchanges right if i call you up. It's a hey scott of the tower. You could do a ten thirty one exchange and you're gonna make a whole lot of money. I don't really think that's doing much to get you to get you behind the vision whereas if i said hey scott. Have you ever done the math of how much you're paying in taxes by just continuing the collect the rent on a monthly basis rather than reinvesting it. You ever done that math. And that gives you that understanding of where they're at what they're what their level of sophistication is and how they're thinking about. How may be processed it. And what's important to them because some people are fine with doing that right. Taxes aren't the biggest deal in in in the world to every single person but to some people they're highly sensitive to taxes so the question asking is not only going to keep them engaged. Not only gonna keep your talk track relevant. But you're essentially doing discovery as you're asking all of these questions as you're selling through your questions so it's just this continuous process of keeping the client on track to where we want to go with awesome. That's awesome all right. I can't hold out anymore. I want to. Let's do kind of talk through the back story. Let's talk about your adventure through sales with a special emphasis on where you were what was going on kind of the mindset in the challenge when we had our conversation a couple of years ago and and then how that led to tower point. And everything that you've done since yes so. This is a fun one so back. In the spring of two thousand eighteen. I had stumbled upon the sales success stories. Podcast actually on a hike ironically. Enough listen to the show. A whole bunch had a lot of really great early on episodes. That really resonated with me. And i was in sales job where i was scuttled. I was frustrated. It wasn't really a good fit. I was in the mindset of the lead suck. You know if. I had the person's leads who the top person. If i add his or her leads would be number one on the board to just that real real petty mindset. That's never really gonna lead anyone to success. And so i kind of boldly at that point shot a shot a message to scott lincoln and said hey i i love your podcast. I'd love to meet you know. I told him my situation just been fired. I've i've got a couple of new companies that i'm considering i'd be curious to know if you had any feedback and to my surprise scott answered. This was what may of may of two thousand eighteen now going on almost three years ago in just a handful of months crazy enough and you were kind enough to walk me through. What you felt was best in my interest in what stories were relevant to you when you were a seller. So i just can't thank you enough for that scott and here we are today. Yeah so i want to talk about some pieces kind of before and after that and maybe a little bit more during so what was kind of your sales journey. What brought you into sales. And what were those first few steps in until we got the fired conversation. Yes so. I did a brief study abroad program when i was finishing up school which kind of pushed me behind a semester of my normal timeline graduating so i say that to say that i came into my senior year. Having no internship just coming back from spain say this. I was very last minute in finding an internship and i ended up interviewing at a company that was just a generic financial group. You know i like numbers. I'm into business dealings. So let me let me go ahead and give it a shot. Funny enough. I interned there for about a month knowing what we did. I sat in meetings have just kind of blended in. I would say hand. It was actually a life insurance firm and so after a couple months or so of getting my feet wet and sitting in on meetings here and how people were in there selling lives. I actually started pursuing how i could be compensated because we had a lot of folks that were making calls long story short. I ended up calling making some appointments for some senior. Reps was very successful in making those calls on cold calling lists. I didn't even have any cold calling strategies. Either i just thought of. It is calling people up and asking them if they'd like to set a meeting so i just kind of had that simplicity approach before i even realized i was doing it and so that kind of spiraled down life. Insurance is a tough industry for anyone out there who's ever done in. I dabbled even in some some door to door. Canvassing for solar back when solar energy was was first becoming relevant in new york city back then and then from there was the move to san diego and when i moved into san diego i got right into the job where you know. The the unser ramona's firing occurred and then from there. I switched the tower point in here. Have been since. Yeah so let's talk about that transition phase a little bit more. I vaguely remember the conversation. I i remember pacing in a which is kind of something i do when i talk. Sometimes i was in hotel room somewhere. God knows where. What did i say right. What were we talking about. How was that advice helpful. Because maybe it'll be helpful to other folks that are in a comparable spot definitely. I certainly remember a large portion of time being spent on on just general mindset because obviously any of us who have been in sales. No no one in emotional roller coaster. This could be. And i never really had that time for someone to really walk me through. What what kind of mindset is needed to be successful in a role like this and you certainly helped me out quite a bunch. What you also gave me in terms of advice. That was very profound is because i was particularly choosing between two companies and i remember very vividly. You saying hey. This other company sounds cool but tower point sounds like the type of business plan that i look at it on the back of the napkin and understand right away this other company. I don't necessarily understand it. It's a little bit confusing. They're raising funds also like who knows how much money they actually have. And so i'll never forget that piece of advice because it again goes back to that. Simplicity piece of. Hey this is something. You don't understand on the back of a napkin. Then it just might not be the right fit for you. Yeah that's really interesting. I'm reminded of his speaking of kind of this mindset piece. I wrote a story in the first sale. Success stories book then. This is one that. I intentionally don't share publicly. You gotta get the to get this one. Because it's and. I don't ever tell the story publicly either because i think it's really important that i capture the whole thing accurately and so. This is the only time that i've done that. But i wrote a story called a rapid rise an epic fall and getting quote unquote fired up. And it's the story of a time that i got fired and you know it's such a a hard kind of challenging place and it's not the only time that i've been in just kind of a weird mental place in fact the role that i was in before my current job and this is totally crazy. I'd just passed my five year mark in this current role and you know stole running strong. Which is the longest. I've ever been anywhere. That i did not own the company and i was in this place where i just. I hadn't quite like found it right. I was doing okay in the context of the rest of the team. I was still near the top. But i was frustrated horrible boss and i had really kind of lost confidence in myself and my process and it was actually my current. Ceo we were together in in a meeting and we had some history together before that and he heard a little bit about what was going on and literally offered to write me a an offer letter on the spot and it was. It was that that reminded me. I'm like oh. Yeah i have value. I am good at this. But i'm just not in the right spot right now right so. I think those are probably some of the stories and examples. I was sharing with you because man when you're in that spot with especially when somebody's essentially giving you a vote of no confidence and showing you the door. That is a tough tough tough place to be totally totally in a lot of really good things that that you said in there but i guess one thing that i that i did want to point out is like for for you to be able to. I guess bounce back so quickly afterwards like what would you attest that too so i guess if someone is listening right now and maybe they're in a position where they're looking for a job or they've just been let go. God forbid like. I guess what would you say. Helped you to really bounce back so quickly from that. Well the moral of the quote unquote fired up story is that became my mindset so i was literally exiting the parking garage with a box of stuff for the last time after having been let go and i'm next going to have to call my wife and explain to her why i don't have a job anymore. Which is really not a very fun. Phone conversation. And i decided in that moment that i was fired up that this happened for a reason that it was going to lead to bigger and better things and i just needed to find that thing and do that work and i turn between. It wasn't right away but maintaining that mindset and just deciding you know what this happened for a reason. This wasn't quite the right thing. I wasn't in quite the right place or on the right trajectory. So let me do the work and figure out what. I need to fix what i need to improve that i can get onto the right trajectory and now here we are so that to me was the biggest piece and it starts with a decision absolutely absolutely and you know just hearing. You say that it's fascinating. How like a feel blake sales just a small shift in your mindset just a different conceptual way of looking at your role of looking at your job of looking at your circumstances can literally take you from the bottom of the leaderboard to the top of the leaderboard. I mean is that not what makes hell so great. Yeah yeah will so. Let's talk about your adventure. Then at tower point so so you make this decision you move into this role and now you've been there for for a couple of three years and you've really found success there. What was that adventure. How long did it take you to to get to that level of comfort to really kind of find your stride and and get to top. Yeah that's another good question. I think will similarly to you. I didn't just go into the new role and everything was just sparkling imperfect. I knew i was on the right track but i didn't quite get it just yet but you know the work ethic was always there. The determination was always there. It's just something hadn't clicked yet. You know what i mean and it had actually registered with me then. It's funny because this is a really small tangent. But i think it has to do with like absorbing information versus consuming information right. We're in this age of heavy consumption of information and if you're consuming all of this information and not actually putting it to use. It's not really going to do very good. And so. I say all of that to say that i'll never forget. There are many many influential people on linked in. Not just yourself i. in fact we'll we'll give a shout out to john brown. I also spoke with on brown during the time that i was fired. Who i also had a very profound conversation with and even beyond just just the people who you're speaking with and what you're consuming is just make sure that you're actually putting it into use and so i'll never forget this one post that i read from be loud. Trolley day that basically in short said hey if this buyer is not serious about buying than me the seller is not going to spend my time with that buyer and i remember that just totally blew my mind because i was certainly in that mindset of right like hey chase everyone down right always be closing you know that like classic sort of salesperson so to that person out there who who may be doing a bunch of extra work outside of work to develop themselves and really are waiting to take that next step. Make sure that you're actually absorbing and putting the information that you're putting out to use that's really good and one of the questions. I've been dying to ask you. Is you know having spent a lotta time with this podcast. And it's funny that you mention having profound conversation with dewana. I feel like that's every conversation with john. I actually had one myself this week in had some some significant epiphany so it's always good to talk to him. How did you absorb content from this show. What resonated who resonated. What were the things that you found yourself applying versus just kind of passively listening. That's a that's a good question. Well first off their way way way way. Too many people to shout out in terms of you know who's had great episodes and who's had a great impact on me. Those early days are particularly memorable. Because my you know my previous mindset where was where it was and so i really enjoyed like way back when kyle gut slur and of course next to gal ski was was on your show at handful of months back sits there. I could go all day about who great guests you had on the show. Were but to actually go out and put this stuff into action. You've got to be not just listening. But you've gotta be actually what's the word i'm looking for it. You've got to actually be taking actions out of the words so when you hear someone that really says something. That's truly profound like first off. Just goes to say focused. When you're listening to the show at. I don't have too much going on in the background but really just find who resonates with you personally because there's no set selling style that works for everyone. Scott has his own style. I have my own style. Each individual is going to put their own their own spin on it. 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By now you were talking about the influence that balazs post had on you and the way that you implemented that and you had mentioned before we even get started that it actually kinda ties into the way the you think about time management. Can you talk about that. Just a little bit. Definitely yeah time. Management has definitely become one of those buzzy words. You know everyone talks about time management and blocking off the calendar and color coating your calendar etcetera. Etcetera i'm going to focus specifically on who you as a salesperson are spending your time on the phone with because there is always at least for the near future going to be that sense that that sales people have commission breath always and so when when we're spending time with people that without a lack of better phrase are just afraid to tell us no because they know if they say no it's going to be an avalanche of salesperson right overcoming objections and doing this and doing that. They lie to you out of kindness right because they don't they don't want to hurt your feelings they don't want to upset you and they'll say hey alex we pick it up in two weeks right like i'm thinking about it. Why don't we like push it off just a little bit further and so the point is here mixture. You're spending your time with people who are actually willing to change. Have a need for change. And you can actually envision making the change. And how are you qualify. How are you determining that. It's a really good question. I think this kinda ties back to the to the beginning that we spoke about about just being simple and not wasting a word like people are busier. Nowadays than than they've ever been any person would rather just take an email and say no rather than you call them and say them no so this really starts off with with just your questions finding out what what is important to this person on the opposite line. How is this person incentivized and even thought about this right now. I touched about this touch the point about this one time. Speaking to a friend is like almost think about your time as a seller. Almost like you're a poker player but except your poker chips or your time. So imagine like putting all of your chips into this one pot. That's a really tiny pa putting your time into small deals or you're putting all of your time into deals that are never going to go anywhere versus asking the questions to actually find out the truth not just asking questions searching for yeses or not just asking questions just to follow your process and just make sure that you're reading off the script or covering all the points that you need to whatever the case may be just get to the truth right away. It's gonna come up eventually anyways. Yeah now. I'm not a big poker player but i i think the analogy is basically. If you don't have a winning hand fold like get out right exactly like stop. Stop riding the wave and put in more chips after bad when you're not taking that pile that's exactly true and it kind of feels like there's like or at least i know i had felt in a way that like the idea of sales is to take that hard. No and battled back and forth with them until they're yes right. At least maybe that sorta like wolf of wall. Street like sorta sorta culture may be created something like that like correct me if i'm wrong but i feel like the modern day seller is all about finding people in your industry. Ideally when they're ready to buy and that they truly have an interest in making a change like why go into that battle. That's just only gonna drag on your soul like that doesn't feel good for any party involved whereas you could just spend time making another five calls. Yeah that's a great call out right like help. The people that want to be helped or need to be helped and you know rather than trying to push a boulder up a hill. You know to find somebody who who has the need. Yeah yeah exactly and know exactly. Yeah and we were talking about this before you know. I'd kind of made. The i'd made the analogy of like finding special teams touchdown every now and again. You know just like finding that deal whether it's like deep into a call log and you find the number you know and that person and have been spoke to in a while lower a whole number of other missed opportunities or closed lost opportunities right going back into the past and digging up these old opportunities that never went through like there are so many ways to go out there and find deals these days especially with all the sales engagement tools right the crm's and whatnot like we have no excuse to be wasting our time on people that are never going to do anything and just keep the status quo that cannot be in the playbook in the modern seller anymore. Yeah that's great. Let's talk about some of those kind of special teams deals and just some examples of that right like how does that actually show up in in reality. What have you seen right. The analogies are getting more farfetched as the episode goes on. I'll use the example that i gave you before the call. I guess just to chat deals a little bit so obviously reference. We're not just purchasing cell towers. There are sometimes these things are on rooftops. There's times these things are on water towers etc. And i was calling through chicago. The long story short the information i had for property was bogus. And i'm looking around for numbers you know. Obviously it's real easy to call the next person. But i was digging for numbers if anyone's familiar through a loop net which is like commercial real estate listings just going down pages and pages of old real estate listings and call in whatever. Numbers are on their most of disconnected. I actually eventually ended up getting connected to an attorney who said hey yeah. This is my clients. Property was for sale a couple of years ago not for sale anymore said. Hey i'm calling about the rooftop. Antennas and he goes. Oh this guy doesn't want to sell. But i got a client a couple of miles up the road who has a tower. They're about to sell. Would you be interested in making a bid and we signed up the deal like two days later so there like all these opportunities out there. Where whether it's the grit of just making enough touches and enough relevant dials and messaging to finally get that person on the phone and get them to finally open up and be curious. The opportunities are out there. Yeah and it's also also talking about just the kind of law of averages right and some of the mentality and mindset around that definitely. He had that kind of goes back to number one right. Just following your simple process whether that's tracing back your quota right knowing how many dials wanna make per day knowing how often you want to be sending out proposals. But i mean just kind of tying everything while we spoke about together like any time that you're gonna be wasting your time on the phone with somebody that's not gonna make a move. You can be getting out there and making more touches an just numerically and statistically speaking the more touches you make the more likely you are to run into that person that's about to sign a deal tomorrow or is coming up for renewal soon right whatever. The big event may be a lot of times. That could be what pushes people towards doing a deal or not is circumstances that have zero effect on us right. Yeah yeah so you've got this simple process that you follow consistently what is the process. That's that's a loaded question there I mean following the process consistently obviously from step one forward is making your dials. Making your touches sending out your emails sending them out in a very simple to to understand format my best performing prospecting. Emails are like three sentences and just end with a question of like. Hey is this. Are you the person to speak with at this address. Confirm yes or no i can. That's all you really need to push the ball forward so the process is getting yourself in front of people in an efficient manner who are willing to entertain your product or solution now. Obviously there goes a lot of pieces deep into what do you say. And what time should you be reaching out. I don't necessarily want to dive into any of particularly right this second but in terms of following the process consistently the consistently pieces is. I think what's most important because obviously going back to the roller coaster. That is the life of a full-time salesperson. If we're attached to every single outcome of every single deal that were prospecting that we're trying to close that. Were trying to move to up our stages. We're going to have a pretty miserable year right so when when your focus is on the output when your focus is just on what can you control and focusing on that and only that the success comes eventually the down pits or the downfalls are when we're so just attached to each of the each and every outcome of every sales call and i think you obviously know where i'm going with this. I'm sure you've been there too. Yeah absolutely one of the best ways to maintain this type of consistent. Prospecting effort is with outreach. Outreach is the number one sales engagement platform that helps companies significantly increase productivity and dr smarter more inciteful engagement with their customers. More than four thousand companies including adobe tableau octa spunk. Docu sign and sap depend on outreaches enterprise scale customer driven and robust ai powered innovation visit top one dot fm forward slash outreach and learn how to close deals faster in today's remote sales world so what then are when you think about what you're controlling on a daily weekly basis and it sounds like that's predominantly just the number of outreach attempts. You're making how do you think about that is there. Is there a number that you were shooting for. How do you. How do you know like. I've been successful in controlling the things i can control. Yeah you know it's funny. I feel like that's kind of changed over time. Like i felt like it used to be a purely volume approach. You know where it was like. Hey i got forty. Five dials out yesterday and i got fifty dials out today so i did better today than yesterday. I'd like to say the unit of measurement that really tells a better story is how many meaningful conversations are you having per day because even if you have a great conversation with someone and they decide to not move forward like they're always those deals that comeback months later right. They're always those referrals. So i guess really just digging to the bottom of what the actual truth right like. What does this person actually want rather than me just jamming whatever. I have down their throat man. That's that's so good because you're right like those conversations even what on the surface appears to be negative conversation. You talked to somebody and you disqualify them. It's it's no actually saves you seven dials over the course of the next couple of weeks that you were going to attempt to get a hold of them again. Anyway right exactly. And i'll even take it a step. Further there are some times The people who we speak to on the phone that initial reaction gut feelings sound like a definite. No right like they're giving you stiff answers like they're not really opening like there are times where you can even be thinking yourself like. Hey i don't really think this call is going anywhere and then all the sudden you can just ask them a question and then they start asking questions back to you right so like i think there are a lot of people out there that as i previously mentioned are so afraid to just get hit by the avalanche of the salesperson overcoming their objections that they hold back what the actual truth is and a lot of times a conversation that may feel like a disqualifying conversation all of the sudden at the end. You may be pleasantly surprised to find out that the person was actually interested. They just haven't told anyone the truth yet because they were afraid. Right of dealing with the salespeople repercussions so any conversation can drastically shift at any moment. So whether you do come out of those good conversations with someone moving forward into an opportunity or to your point a disqualification. It's a win either way. Yeah so do you have like a target number of conversations that you're looking to have how do you then think about that. That's a good question. Yeah it gets a little bit sticky with us just because we're like working on closings calling someone up and asking them for like a piece of closing document like counts as like a quote unquote conversation but for the purpose of this. Let's just keep it with outreach. And cold outreach. I mean any time that i can have like three really high impact conversations on a daily basis. We'll get the results but in in a year that i was number one. i did. Thirteen deals right. So i don't need to go out and have ten impactful conversations day because not only. Is it not really that possible. They're not really going to be very impactful. So i guess the point that i'm trying to get to here. Is that if you can look. At how many meaningful conversations you have and multiply that out. Over a yearly basis we easily be able to see our quota attainment within those conversations as opposed to looking at the amount of dials we make writer the amount of e mails we sent. Yeah and what's beautiful about that is it's just three conversations so whatever the inputs are that get you there. I think being focused on that and then and then you can also have a little bit of an emphasis on. How do i actually make meaningful like we were talking about before right. Maybe it's a conversation that i i continue to ask the right questions and it does open up. It turns somebody into that was just initially essentially blowing me off to. Oh wait a minute. That actually makes him sense. And i've got an opportunity to talk that through an and i'm sure that there are other outcomes that are maybe less but are fantastic. Outcomes right you you learn about you. Learn about them and it turns out. They're part of an investment group and they can introduce you to other people in that groups are now now. One conversation turns into three. So how are you thinking about. Or maybe you've got other examples of a way. That conversation can become meaningful to another really good question. I think something. That's really powerful. That doesn't get talked about. Enough is incentive and i definitely believe that all behavior is rooted in incentive. Right like people are going to do what they're incentivized to do. And so i'll make a quick example using my industry. Like whenever i come across a lead and there's a property manager involved write. A property manager is paid off of a percentage of income that a property makes so why on earth. I'm going to talk to a property manager about buying an income stream off of their building. You know what i mean. It just makes absolutely no sense. And i could be the greatest sales person in the world. But it's just going to be a complete waste of my time. So what what i would say is i think not only aligning with the incentives of the customer. Right like making sure you're doing best. Buy them but also aligning year incentives with. There's yeah so you reminded me that. I kind of skipped over the quantifying. Your results peace and and your thirteen deals talk about that. Like how are the outputs measured because at the end of the day. That's that's what actually matters even though we're trying to kind of disconnect ourselves mentally from the way that that ends up playing out right so how our numbers calculated there's a variety of metrics that we use purchase yield kinda like a raid the account total cash flow purchased and in terms of the most important numbers. I obviously as i mentioned this remodel that we follow is the total cash flow purchased and so for two thousand twenty. I purchased three hundred sixty six thousand dollars of annual recurring cash flow which to put into perspective one team of four people produced three hundred eighty two thousand and another team four produced three hundred ninety three thousand for the whole year. So these deals that were doing can be extremely large and they can also be extremely small in the case of my year. I actually had a bit of both. Where couple of like two of my deals. Let's say represented probably one percent of my quota and the bigger deals probably represented almost almost half my quota. Yeah how do you think about and manage that mix or do you not worry about it and just kind of focus on. These are the people that i can help. And and here's a deal. Let's go get it. Done a little mix of the both but definitely more of the latter like my simplicity. My focus on simplicity rather like goes in it goes into the as well so i'm real classical in the sense that i have a piece of paper and pen where i've got all of my deals that i feel like are actually within striking distance right and then we could start talking about like. What's a deal in striking distance. Then how do you define that. But i always have a list. That's right next to me at all times that i'm always looking at to always know that i know what my next step is. It's put out clearly and it's just obvious to point out. That timing is so important in all of this. Like i can't talk to someone today and expect that like you know in june. They're going to be engaged enough to sign a deal right like there's a certain sort of time frame that you want to try and keep things and while it's relevant in their minds. Yeah yeah that makes sense. I wanna come back to just kind of a career thing. So so you've had this sort of wild adventure in the way that your sales career has developed knowing all that you know now and the experience that you have at this point if you could go back and start that process over again. What would you do differently. I don't wanna take. I don't wanna take the easy route here but i really genuinely would say the approach and the mindset. I really can't stress enough. How much better year. Life can be in sales and how much worse year life can be in sales depending on what your mindset in. Your outlook is on it. So going back to what. I was saying earlier to go back to that time in my career when i was in that mindset of the lead suck right this person's getting better leads than me. If i had the book that they had i would be doing as good as them like. None of none of that is actually relevant. Right all of that attention energy and focus that we're using to basically make all of those realities become true should be used to improve your career and should be used to constantly improve your skills because this is never an industry that you've got it all figured out right. Things are so drastically changing all the time. So i would say being earlier committed to the forever student of sales type of mindset nice. Is there anything more to that. I mean is you think about your mindset today and your outlook what is that. How are you trying to. I don't think is the right word in. Yeah i know exactly. You're asking. So here's actually the way i would describe it and i guess i'll go back to another analogy fun. Analogies are a good way to communicate. A complex idea are explanation. So like steph. Curry is like obviously like the best shooter that anyone's ever seen in basketball like if he's going to go and shoot a jump shot like he's not thinking about you. Know what do i do with my feet right. Like what type of angle should i put on the shot like. Am i going to miss it or am i going to make it like. I miss my last ten in a row. That means i'm gonna miss. No they just go and they the ball and they get it as close to the net as they can and whatever happens happens right it could be a swoosh. It could be a lucky roll. It could be a lucky bounce. It could be an unlucky bounce and all you could do is just put the ball as close to the rim as you possibly can right like to the a as they would say. And that's that's really what it is in sales is i mean on a really simple granular level. You are just picking up. The phone has rapidly as possible calling people up and finding out the truth finding out the truth of whether you can or cannot help them discovering deeper or moving on accordingly. So i'd actually like what you said in a previous episode where like our. Our numbers really aren't necessarily our responsibility right there so much. External factors that are out of our control that go into it but what we can control is how good of an effort were out pudding every day in how consistent of an effort where putting every day and so do our previous point wrapping it back up again as long as the numbers are there as long as the effort is there. We've got to believe that the results will follow. Yeah yeah maybe. I'll record sales tip about this or or something but i've been thinking particularly this week. I had a wild week. Think about sales karma right and that can work both ways. Because i had one of these weeks where i've been working my butt off and some things just happened in a great way that again. I didn't really control like if i'm honest about it. It's just kind of an interesting situational thing. It's going to have a great outcome for me. And there's so many other things that i'm working on. That probably aren't going to pan out. And it's just one of those things where i think i'm gonna get a woo here. Like the universe recognizes the effort. Like scott what. You deserve a big win because we see you see what's going on here. We're going to give you this giant boost over here. Keep doing what you're doing and the reverse. I think is true to write like maybe you just lucked into a deal for no good reason. But you're just sloughing off and you're not working you're gonna pay for that. It's kind of this like what comes around. Goes around kind of an idea. And i i really i see it over and over and over again like and some people would say that. What is it like luck favors the prepared or you know those types of statements because you can't predict how it's actually going to play out because it is just wild the way it really works. You don't have to wait for the universe to recognize the right types of activities and behaviors on your team. Terry berry is built for this. Their award winning three sixty recognition platform can absolutely be used to reward the right kinds of behaviors. And keep your team the right things consistently if your with me on this and believe that a powerful recognition solution can help you drive the success. You're looking for let terry berry help. You build a culture of recognition and performance. Today you can learn more at top. One dot fm forward slash terry berry. I really couldn't agree more. And this is something that i've actually seen circulate on linked in a little bit more and it's about like the push versus pull relationship where you're pushing people to do what you want right and to self self ill year needs you know in your job bursts your pulling people towards you right like if they want to come over great like if they end up making it all the way good if they don't like a learn from those mistakes but i'm not going to beat myself up so i couldn't agree more especially in an industry where i mean. Let's be real. There's a lot of sort of divine intervention right like there's so many pieces of timing right. there's so many pieces of just just luck that we just can't manage. Yeah yeah well i. It almost universally applies if you just think about you know what. I'm just working. As hard as i can to help as many people as i can and i think that's that's true for the work that you're doing to and sometimes i can help and sometimes you know it's it's just it's not the right fit or it's not the right time and we'll be able to help in the future and and it it just kinda comes around anyway. Let's come away from my you know. We've been meditating too much. I'm not sure what's going on here. What what do you struggle with the most. What what are you still find. Be like this part still confounds me. It's a good question. I guess i can pretty transparently. Honestly say that. It's not always so easy to go in because for reference. I'm a full full cycle wrap. So i'm responsible for my own prospecting like no one brings me deals or anything so i really do think that no matter how motivated writer. How excited somebody is to do their job and make money like there. Is that sense of like. How do you get motivated. Each day right to go out and make all of those dials in have all these conversations right and pour yourself out to your customers day after day so i think there does definitely become that point. Almost like when to go back to the sports analogy again. Like if you're a team who's already clinched the playoffs. Let's just say like what incentive do you have to win you know obviously for someone who may not be in the best of situations. It's easy to go out there and bust your butt every day but like once the results are there once your comfort level as there to go win and put in that work every single day like i said those dials those emails this and that their days when it could be a challenge. And that's just the truth and those are the days when you've got to be more focused than any others that you to our previous point just got to follow the process consistently right. Yeah so what is that for you. What is the driver. What is the motivator. Good question i would obviously say i'm financially motivated person. I think we all are in some respect and fashion but you know there definitely is the desire to to connect with people always right and especially in this kind of lockdown environment. That we're in so like i would definitely say that there's a great sense of fulfilment when you're in sales and you're good at your job right and you're talking with people on a daily basis that respect you as a seller and you're having great conversations day in and day out like that's when you really start to reap not only the financial rewards of the industry but i mean really been the the social and emotional awards right like who who doesn't like to help people who doesn't like to especially these days. Help people solve their problems. We're in erin. Are circumstances like cut people a big fat check so i think there's that intrinsic desire that we all hold to to to help each other but i think really for us is sales people like if we think about like. We're really the front lines of lick. Virtually almost all communication right like when countries are reaching trade agreements. Let's just say you know like it's sales people right that are that are like breaking down. Those initial walls like huge enterprise deals when we're talking about the text base like that that's all initiated by salespeople. You had the person on the show. Who if i remember correctly initiated talks between lincoln microsoft. That's not quite accurate but yes episode. One folks episode one so the real story is mike. Duggan was on the podcast. And mike was it linked and he was the number one account manager and he was managing the microsoft relationship. Kind of right before. And i think even during the time that microsoft acquired lincoln so i joked in that episode that he was responsible for a forty billion dollar acquisition or or whatever that that number is it's not quite real but but it was. It was fun will. Some salesperson had to break down those initial walls. Right is i guess. Like that's the that's the sauce is like where where the front lines right of like. All of these. Like groundbreaking that eventually come to fruition. So it's just like a fascinating right of like when you think about sales like you're you're really and i saw someone posted something then recently. Like you're you're really just managing people at an extraordinarily high level emotionally and intrinsically motivated wise. Right yeah yeah. I wanna come back to this as sort of an interesting continuation from what will be the episode before this and we were talking about some of this motivation stuff in. It's fascinating that you used the word fulfillment. Because i i think well let me ask. This does the motivation changed. Do you think about those drivers differently. When you're in that place of. I gotta make sure that. I've got my nut covered and i'm earning enough to pay my bills and just take care of the basics and then once you get of course point. Does the driver start to shift is at the level. And how does it shift. Yes a good question. And obviously this has to do with each and every person's goals right like there are people out there that like wanna be the top earner you know that there ever was and one have the best numbers and everything for me. I'm not so just purely financially motivated. You know that it's just like a like pure numbers game to your previous point. Like i do definitely point point out fulfillment. Because i do definitely think it's. It's something that's important like. It's only very recently that the mental health conversation has really has really seeped. it's way into sales. And i really do largely believe that has a larger impact on our outcomes than we choose to realize like somebody who's on the phone with someone right that's already at quota like they don't necessarily have that commission breath right like they're gonna sell better than someone who's desperate you know than someone who may be soon on the chopping block so i really can appreciate that. The mental health conversation has has made its way into sales more. But i guess like where does that point truly begin to blossom right like where like how does that actually impacts our performance on a deep level. Yeah it's so funny that you bring that up so that the david we're recording this. I believe it's tip seven twenty nine. This is exactly what jeff djuric just talked about in the talks about being your best sale self and he talks about the recognition in himself that he changed after he'd met his quota and he just became more free and loose and he sold better after he'd gotten to that point each month reach each period right and just kind of talking about and thinking about can you take on that mindset. Can you take on that persona almost even before you get there. Can you do that when you're zero at the start of the previous month or do you have. I need to make my number scott. And then scott's above his number and that experience in the way that we act is is very different. And i think it's one of these things where part of it is introspective but really unders truly understanding. Because i think even as i've asked about this moore your answer to the motivation question has become more nuanced and deeper as we've really gotten into it so i think the more that we can understand that about ourselves and what's really driving this and being able to really tap into that is going to help to the work day in day out and for me there's also just a degree of excellence like i want to be great. You know i. I want to be seen as somebody who does the hard things day in and day out and produces these extraordinary results because win you know because of the sales karma whatever happens but i'm doing the work that's a really really fascinating point because if you even think about it like could you imagine just like time transporting yourself. Let's just say two a day that you made all your cole calls and you send out all your emails and a deal that you thought was coming in fell apart right like and you're going to go and do a call session and right like imagine how ineffective that call session would be versus like if you could perfectly create this environment. Where like you just had to deal close or like you just had a great conversation a few minutes ago and you're feeling hopeful right. You're feeling really giddy almost and to compare those two. You dial sessions right of like how it would go in each of those set. Mind frames i think it would be really profound and how do you actually foster that mindset to just point before you hit your quota right like. How do you have those same outputs beforehand. That's a really really interesting point. Dive deeper on. Yeah and i wonder if you can fake your way into it. I wonder if you can kind of visualize that outcome like what. If you were to pretend that you you know like flash back on that time that you did have that experience and start that session with that mindset going in just just you know you're going to be so much more free and loose and you're gonna have great conversation. Yeah yeah. I know that morgan. Ingram posts all the time about having like playlists for certain moods or certain like activities or certain tasks or whatever so that. That's really interesting to think about like. How could we like genuinely foster. Those mindsets before the reality actually is real for lack of a better phrase. Like almost as we're talking about this right now. I'm almost like thinking off the top of my head like maybe there's a way to quantify our activities prior to deals closing right so like if you go back on on your previous years and like how many dials did you make. How many deals did you close based on that and almost like come up with a dollar amount per dial like sort of activity where it's like. Hey i made fifty dials. So i made two thousand dollars. I'm just making up numbers. I don't know maybe that's at least like a start towards figuring out what the best path could be. Yeah yeah something to experiment with and if you do this if you try this you know. I'm actually kind of thinking like along. The lines of tony robbins right. It's it's putting yourself in a particular state before you start that session. So if you do this i want to hear about it. So semi scott at top one dot. Fm maybe we'll have a conversation in a hotel room and then you'll be on this podcast in two or three. We'll see how that goes. It would be great to be in a hotel room period. I missed traveling anyway so alex. Let's talk about just kind of the routines and the process and everything else and you know how this rolls right. So alarm clock goes off. Give me give me the blow by blow. Yeah so i will say pre covid right. Pre lockdown the alarm was more so like a five thirty but now cutting out. The commute alarm goes off six o'clock. I've actually started something. New fairly recently is drinking. A twelve to sixteen ounce glass of water right when you wake up is very very underrated and then i always get my workout and in the morning. I'll do five six days. A week at the gym rest day is also definitely very important there and then something i think also doesn't get talked about enough is like having like a nice breakfast like a nice non-processed food breakfast to really to really kick the day off into gear and then i'll typically start prospecting around eight thirty nine o'clock on a really really big subscriber to dial blitzes go for whatever sixty seventy minutes as many dials as you can take a ten minute rest. Go back in and go for another dial blitz. So i'm definitely a huge subscriber to that what i would also say as well as even though i am a fulltime rap i probably spend fifty sixty percent of my time prospecting so for any full cycle reps out there. I cannot express enough the need to constantly have deals in the pipeline. Which means no matter. What your pipeline looks like you must always be prospecting and is that an everyday thing or are you cranking now. Call it to dial blitzes a day every day every day. I prospect everyday. Yeah so what happens after the dial blitz as walk us through the rest of the day. Yeah so i think everyone has different outputs of energy. Let's just say. I am much more energetic in the morning than i am in the afternoon so i want to get all of my prospecting done right away as soon as i possibly can. I prefer to save afternoons for maybe more targeted dials maybe follow up dials and customer actual meetings. Because i know that when i have those conversations. I'm always going to get energized. Like it's not as easy to stay energized during dial blitz when you know twenty people have sent you voicemail whereas any conversation i happen to like. I know that our media. They're going to have some energy. So generally speaking. I always try to do. The more you know meeting oriented up oriented even admin oriented work. All in the afternoon up until i'm finishing up nice and then what is what is that finish up. And i'm also curious about how are you setting up your dial blitz. Do you know who you're gonna call beforehand. Yes so oh my lead book. Essentially is you know. Thousands of people with you know some some sort of telecom infrastructure on their property so we actually work out of territories. I have two of the same territories that i worked last year in one new one so for me particularly. I'll be starting this year off going through the new territory. I didn't just making those touches. Leaving those voicemails having those initial conversations and setting those long term follow ups right and signing the people who are ready to sign now. And then really i guess to answer your question is the wrap up is is really just just so important for setting up your next morning right like i always like to have an idea of what i'm going to get started with immediately the next day like who are the people that i need to talk to tomorrow. Who are the people that i have to get in touch with tomorrow. What's an impactful conversation. That i can anticipate is going to happen tomorrow. Right and how do. I wanna prep myself. So the preparation game is very very very largely. That is one of those. I would say that over the past year. So i've really really dove into it. And the results have paid off tremendously. Nice what is that. Prep so does it happen. What's the process. Yes so. I'll i'll typically do it as i'm wrapping up and make maybe five. Pm or so and really. It's i want to focus my energetic attention. Let's just say towards outreach. Right and getting dials and making contacts and having those important conversations as as we talked about earlier but then really in that afternoon it really wants to be more like introspective. Right in thinking about the more strategic deals that i'm working on and really really being focused on like what is the next step in all of my deals not just. How do we get this person to sign right. Step-by-step like what is this next. Step right to get to get this person. This company this municipality to start taking one more step forward nice and then what happens at the end of the work day ended the work day. Obviously a nice dinner. My wife and i actually get to bed pretty early. Now that we're out on the west coast. We used to be night owls but now were were pretty much sleep at nine nine thirty. What i would say is important too. Is the last last thirty minutes or hour or so before bed trying to do some kind of wind down whether it's like going for a nice walk watching some tv especially sellers. I couldn't think of anything more important than like really clearing the mind before bed. But aside from that obviously outside of normal social life going out to dinner with friends and whatnot. The afternoons is really good. Times to to work on our development right to listen to these podcasts to get a book to do a webinar to take a little bit time. Learn a little bit more about your product. So in the afternoon is a lot of sales success stories time honestly scott. Yeah well. let's talk about that. I want to understand kind of development process. What else are you reading listening to. And watching. And specifically i mean you you brought this up before how are you focusing on the absorption. I really do in obviously enjoy. Sales related books podcasts. Whatever the form content may be. I do definitely think it's important that we're also diving into things that aren't necessarily sales related whether it's nonfiction whether it's reading to learn about food whether it's learning to read about best methods of exercise like i i really genuinely do think we need to all take time to do those things that really make our deep down soul happy because then it actually creates more head space to your point to absorb all of the things that were actually learning. And so how do you do that. I think a great way is really journaling and writing things down because it actually forces your brain to chemically change. The way it's it's thinking about said item right when it's in your head versus you actually take it down and write it on a piece of paper and so grant speaking on a granular level. If someone is listening to a podcast listening to a book and they really really here an important piece of information. That feels profound at the time. Don't be afraid to pause and just do on it. I feel like everyone these days. Is you know whether you're a reader whether you're writer like i don't think there's anything wrong with spin thinker. I just really really think in absorb not just this tip or this trick that you're learning but like how does it truly integrate into your current process that you've already made your own right like i can't read a post from somebody on link dan and necessarily go out and implemented tomorrow because it might have absolutely nothing to do with my industry or the persona. Who i'm speaking with. What have been the biggest sources of those kinda deep insights and epiphanies. I mean feel free to namedrop specific books and specific podcasts or episodes or in in the last year or so. What's been the most consistent sources of of those ideas that you're like. Yeah i need to pause and think about this kind of process this a little bit. Yeah yeah definitely gonna give shameless plug here to sell success stories once again. I mean really even being in the seat here and just like being asked these questions by you like. I don't even know that. I've thought about some of this stuff. So deep as to when someone can really dive into this with you on a deep level a really obviously sales success stories. I would say has been the number one driver thirty minutes to presidents club. I think is also fantastic. I think john barrows has a great make. It happen monday. Show and then. There's there's a lot of great books out there where to even begin. I think with a lot of people the most important piece to all of this is like really making a decision on what direction they would like to go with their. They're selling style. You know kind of like. I said like who like what style they would like to emulate because once you know that then you can really start looking for those individuals specific pieces because two people may give you a piece of advice may be absolutely opposite and it's important to test those out and see what works for you but once we've kind of found that maybe compared to like the north star of like. Hey this is how. I want to perform as seller like these are the type of things that really feel influential or feel natural to me like let that be the guiding northstar right. So when you find people who share in those same views when you find books that share in those same views as opposed to maybe go in for the volume game and just trying to read as many books as you can or listen to many podcasts. As you can don't be afraid to go back and listen to the same ones over and over and like really let it be next to second nature in terms of how how thoroughly your understanding that now. That's that's great. I've a couple of thoughts. One is just this overarching thought. That and i'm i'm starting to see the show up a lot more often thematically and and maybe i'm just paying more attention to it but thinking is underrated you know. It's it's this this idea that you've gotta take time and just give stuff some thought and the stuff. It might be introspective right. It might be trying to become a little bit more aware about yourself. What you're doing and what you might be able to improve. It might be deal specific. It might be. Hey as i'm thinking through my pipeline. And and what i'm working on. How can i get creative in the work that i'm doing that's going to help. Bring this deal to to fruition and make it more valuable or make it move faster or include more people in the in the process. Or what have you write in. And then just some of these development things and then secondary to the actually to to book recommendations. And i think they're. They're both one is. If you haven't read thinking grow rich you need to read that book. The second more current. That's been mentioned here a couple times. More recently is cal. Newport's is a deep thinking deep thinking or deep work deep. Were shes today is basically thinking. So so i think those are a couple of interesting sources but i also really like your call out because it's that time of year right. We're all setting goals and i. I'm seeing a lot of people set us. I'm going to read fifty books this year for twenty five books this year kind of goal. And i'm like you know what i think that's too much and one of the things that i'm personally working on his. I want to become a better leader. I had an epiphany last year that that sales is leadership. And if that's true then. I want to develop more as a leader but the way that i'm managing my development on that is i'm going to read five books about leadership and from each book. I will choose one kind of core concept or idea to work on. Actually enacting right to me. That's going to have a much more profound impact. Than if i confused myself because i read fifty books on leadership right and like each of those fifty books are going to have points. Where like maybe they intersect or may be they sort of conflict in their values. So that's cool that you're actually doing lifetime that the piffle roughly a year ago. How many of your if you don't mind me putting you on the spot. Come any of your five book goal. Are you up to and if you're getting significantly into it have you noticed a difference from when maybe you were consuming on a larger scale. Yes this is actually net new four twenty twenty one right so i had the epiphany but it was just kind of in this introspective process at the end of the year. And i was thinking about you know development goals and how do i want to grow this year and i realized i really so i had this idea. I had this insight. But i hadn't really acted on it so now. It's okay now. How do i get more intentional about developing this. This skill set an area. That i haven't really worked on in in my self it at all before. And what's the best way to do that. How do i build a development plan. That's going to help me get to that point. The other thing that it does is it forces you to be pretty choosy about okay. Well what are those five books going to be in a lot of conversations with my mentors in with my network about. Hey you know. What would you recommend what's going to help me the most and that has been incredibly insightful. About what types of leadership. So it's been a fascinating process. But i'm halfway through the first book if that so the real work has only just begun yet but you figured out the process. It's simplified and you're gonna follow it right. I guess i of the most important piece you know to even go back on something you said earlier on the thinking piece. I feel like a lot of times even when people do like have this. Okay let me go and think about it right. You know it's almost like when you're like purposely trying to think about something right you know it's like oh but i got a vacuum the floor and you start having all these other crazy thoughts like thinking can also be subconscious to i'll give it. I'll give an example here because we recently had the holidays like there was a deal that i got a little bit of a logjam point you know and then had a week off for the holidays and i didn't purposely. Think about the deal. You know through the holidays like i had a real intention to really unplug and then my first morning back to work once i got back to that work mindset all of the sudden. My brain was bursting with all of these ideas right of. Hey what about this. What about this. What about this. So i think to maybe put a bow on. It is like even if we're not necessarily pudding that conscious effort towards thinking as long as we're in the right mind frame. Our mind is still coming up with these possibilities. Just just maybe subconsciously. Instead of like above the surface so to speak. yeah absolutely. You know it's interesting. I am so probably not very uniquely. I do some of my best thinking in the shower. And i find that if i kind of program myself like hey i really want to give this some thought and i'm not a long shower guy but again it's all often kind of find solutions and have a pekingese. I had this streak. This is not normal for me. But i had this period been over the holiday break. Where for about a week. Every morning. I woke up and it was like. Oh my god. And i had these great ideas and i've actually been thinking about thinking about thinking to your point kind of this this subconscious piece is can i program myself at night like you know what you think more about x. F the challenges that it might keep me from sleeping right directly say look conscious brain. You're not allowed to think about it but let let's just kind of like process this at night and see if we up with other epiphany so there's another experiment that maybe i'll i'll run on myself though so. Thanks for prompting that. That's a really really fascinating thread to. I'd be really interested to know if any of the listeners. You know kind of feel the same or if anyone's had similar experiences. But you know i feel we can really notice the difference now right because we're living this locked down life and no one's commuting really for the most part and we have these phones right. We have these supercomputers that are available at all times and you know. It's kind of bizarre like the days. You can feel the days that you spend a little too much time on the phone and spend the time scrolling social media because to your point like when you come out of the shower or when you wake up in the morning like a lot of times it can stifle. You're thinking so. What i would say is using the northstar reference like whenever we're doing an activity whether it's sleeping showering running wherever it is that you get your ideas. Whoever it may be like those are the right activities to be doing because like isn't that the result we want for our brain to be like bursting with these great ideas and then thinking. Hey which one of these is the best idea and working out of that sort of a frame of mind rather than to my previous point like oh you know the lead suck like this sucks when you've got these ideas constantly bursting out of your mind. It's fulfilling right like that's when the work really really starts to become failing so we've been talking a lot kind of alluding to the style piece this out of my normal order but i like it. Let's roll with it. How would you describe your style. Good question to. I would really describe my style as i don't want to necessarily say a challenger. I know that that necessarily encapsulates everything. I like the approach that someone like. A josh braun takes where you really your number. One goal is to help people think about their situation differently. So i go back to like really that question based selling of like really helping people to wrap their minds around their situation and putting it in their own words but it's tough to necessarily nab down one style because there are times in the sales process where you need to be a challenger right like there are parts in the sales process where you need to be a relationship builder so it really is almost kind of like the swiss army knife like where you have to almost have all of these skills available to ya but no which one to use when yeah that's great and i wonder if the answer is the same because i usually ask if you subscribe to a particular sales philosophy does that change that answer at all or is that is that kind of i would say that is it and i would go back to the point of. I definitely consider myself always a work in progress. I think once any salesperson gets to the point where like they feel like they know it all or they don't need to improve anymore you know. They're perfect as they are like. That's just the point where you start to tumble so this is this is always a work in progress. Yeah love that love that. Is there something you believe that the average sales professional would think is crazy. Long emails. don't work long emails. Don't work like i told you earlier. My best performing prospecting emails are like three sentences and one of the three sentences. Please confirm yes or no either way. So i guess maybe i would even put a bow on it and say like i almost feel like the number one goal of outreach cold outreach that is to elicit a response and for many people they just want to get that. Es right away like they're like emailing you about the features of their products. And like i could care less right. So i think just that piece of just messaging them. What's actually relevant and cutting out everything else. I don't think people are as into the fluff as as our brains. Tell us we think they are. Yeah yeah you know. You had listened to your episode that you did with nick and armand on thirty minutes to presidents club. And it's really good. I'd recommend it to other folks in you got into a lot more of the detail. It sounds like you're also using the marcus chan style. Voicemail is as well sort of the presumptive. Call me back type of approach. You know what i'm talking about. Absolutely and here's kind of a cool story on a voicemail actually ida voicemail thankfully turned very very fruitful for me this was like at the end of twenty nine thousand nine actually in fact normal day. It's like i was saying earlier sometimes. Hard to find the motivation. I'll never forget this. I was going through my leads. And i'm about to leave a voicemail you know and there's that voice in the back of your head like oh you're wasting time right like. Don't leave this voicemail. They're not going to answer you. It's a long story short. I'm calling into a municipality. And i ended up leaving this guy like to your point like brief like very a sumptuous voicemail. I'd genuinely expect people to call me back. When i leave them a voicemail but i don't leave them voicemails. Long ribbon like fifteen seconds as the voicemail super short. Hey this is why. I'm calling you call me back and i do genuinely expecting the call me back in the story. I was mentioning earlier. I did end up getting a call back from the gentleman who i had left the voicemail with and it ended up leading me down this path that netted me like eight eight transactions with one municipality so for everyone out there who's thinking that they shouldn't leave that voice mail or may not have the motivation to leave that voicemail. Do it you never know what's on end of that line. One hundred one five hundred one thousand you know who knows can literally turn into the biggest deal your career there. You go there you go. What about the flip side. Is there something. The average sales professional believes that you think is crazy. I think that the terminology objection handling has kind of taken a turn for the worst with sales people. I think that we. I think this is starting to change more recently. But the combative objection. Handling is just in my opinion one of the worst ways to win over the confidence of a buyer and get closer to a deal so like what i would say is instead of objection handling view. It's truth finding like just find out the truth because once you find out the truth and the person on the other end of the phone is genuinely giving you all of the information unbiased truthful when you need it how you're asking it that's what the sales processes right. It's two people. It's two parties like that are in sync on the same plan. Like that doesn't really happen. When there's that sort of like combative energy. I dunno might just be me there yet. Actually i totally agree with you. Actually think of it in terms of objection understanding and in terms of your kind of truth seeking peace. It's probably one of the fastest paths. To the truth rate. Somebody puts an objection. If you just lean into that from a curiosity. I just want to understand type of perspective. That's going to get you to that truth pretty quickly you nailed it. That's really well. Said i like that. Objection understanding instead of objection handling. That's going scott beuller you go every now and then so let's go back to kind of the career advice piece a little bit i mean we've we've covered this in some detail. But what would you suggest somebody. That's just getting started in their sales career today. Would you suggest to them to help them. Get off to a great start. Get vertical on lincoln. And here's what i mean by this. I think it was scott barker who posted it and if it was someone else i apologize to that person. But on linked in we can get horizontal or vertical right or you can kind of do a combination of the both like getting likes and getting shares and comments and engagement and all that stuff like really genuinely is nice right but from a perspective of reality. Like there's really so much reality that shows and so what i would say is if you are connected with people on linked in and you frequently enjoy what they post and especially if it's someone who you would like to emulate their style. Let's just say reach out to those people right. Like actually get on the phone with them actually understand how their mind works like basically asked these questions Right that that you're asking me and really start to understand these these people on on a much more personal and frankly professional habits standpoint. Because that's really that northstar that's going to guide you to what the number one seller version of yourself. Looks like right is to kind of follow that path that someone else has created but then then making your own just when you've gotten close enough to emulation. Yeah that's brilliant. Helped me understand though a little bit better. The differentiation between going vertical and going horizontal. I'm not sure. I picked that part up definitely. So it'll is going for volume right like you want the most connections you want the most lakes you want the most comments like almost for lack of a better term popularity right like you're you're widely known whereas if you know let's say you were to take one person a week i'm just thrown out there like one person a week like you set your mind to say. Hey i'm going to connect with one person from lincoln a week right for thirty minutes and i'm going to learn about their personal life right. I'm going to learn about their professional life and at the end of the year. That's like fifty people right and and when you start to. It's almost like the rule right. They say you become the five people you spend the most time with like. That's what you wanna do as a seller as well right like in all use myself. As an example i would start listening out to the episodes of sell success stories and i would start to learn the terminology you know and then i would start to see the similarities and habits and i would start to see the similarities and approaches and then all the sudden after months of absorbing all of this. What you'll start noticing. Is that all of the sudden. You start sounding like the people right. You're listening to on the podcasts. And all of the sudden you're thinking just like them as well and then by the time you know when you look up and you're focused on your outputs like all of the sudden your number one. I know it sounds bizarre but like the results really are the byproduct of everything else so once you've got the right mindset once you've got the right process once you've sort of found you're selling style so to speak then it's just put your head down and do the work then it's just a pure numbers game and there's there's so there's so much in that i feel like now i have to go on this giant monologue but there's a couple of things i think one it's coming back to this idea of just going deeper right kind of finding finding your thing finding what resonates finding your people finding you know the folks that kinda share the style that most closely aligns with who you are and who you wanna be and that type of thing and then just going deeper there rather than rather than wider right and you know a lot of the ways that i think about the sales success community and the summit and the encore series and all this all this stuff that we're doing is it's not for everybody right each guest is going to resonate maybe really deeply. Maybe you're like. This is the greatest episode. You've listen to and and what alex is sharing aligns with you perfectly. Or maybe it's like you know. I'm more aligned with stephen chase or somebody else that's cool. I think getting to that understanding. And maybe you don't dig this stuff at all right. Maybe i mean i if you're still here that's weird if you're not taking this and you've been listening for like an hour half that's really strange but more along the lines of if you resonate with somebody outside of the sales success community. That's it's all good right right. Whatever that is. I think you have to kind of do the higher level discovery work. And then once you understand it then you've got that opportunity to go to go deeper. Also say on the lincoln side because you did talk about sort of the engagement and everything else and and actually probably about the time. Maybe after shortly before. Release this episode. I will have done. Probably the first twenty twenty one update of the lincoln sale stars list. What's ironic about that. And the way that our formula works in way that we measure engagement the path that you just described. Alex is actually maybe a more productive way to get onto that list. And here's why the way that we run the algorithm. It actually favors people with smaller networks. Now there is a pretty high bar in terms of the cutoff right. You have to have at least twenty. Five hundred connections or followers to kind of qualify to be evaluated or or or to make the list but beyond that it's about the level of engagement that you're driving will. You're going to drive more engagement if you have more real relationships rather than random people that you're connected with on linked in who may or may not resonate with your with your stuff. If that makes sense that makes complete sense. And i'll even put it into like an example like let's just say that like i found the sales success community right and i never use lincoln before right and i just logged in the lincoln for one day and found spotting them on lincoln somehow and connected with you you know. We had our conversation that we add three years ago. We had our conversation that we had now like. If i just packed it up and that was it like lincoln was worth it for me. I think think people have this idea that you know unless you're like some sort of influence or you know or like hundreds of people are like in your stuff then. You're not really doing it right. I frankly would disagree. Like and to your point a lotta times. The smaller and more engaged community is infinitely times better than that large following. On that person you know probably copying and pasting their posts anyway. I mean let's be real. And i talked to people about this all the time. I mean. It's exactly what you did like. Just reach out and ask to have a conversation and here. Here's the deal. It's not on you to worry about how busy that other person might be. That's their deal to worry about if they're too busy and they just don't have time to respond. That's fine. that's on them. Not on you but you should at least reach out so if you hear somebody on this podcast or or alex lake just absolutely resonates with you freaking. Send alex note and say hey man. That was awesome. I'd love to go deeper and have a conversation about x. And i think the more specific you can get and just breaking the whatever the third wall the fourth wall whatever wall it is and going beyond passively listening to a podcast and actually connecting and actually having a conversation. I think you'll find people are way more willing to have those conversations and to reply than you think. And i think we all get in our heads around. Oh my gosh. But one must reach out to them. No you know. I have a pretty popular podcast and you know a couple. Three four people might reach out in in a given week very manageable number and i love talking you guys so like reach out reach out. It's on me if i don't have the time to talk to you. Then i'll tell you right and saying you have a pretty popular. Podcast is pretty humble of you. I'll just give you that pat on the back here real quick for the people who are still listening an hour and a half in. I really couldn't agree with with what you said and more honestly like i mean let's even think about it right like let's tear it down to to it's bare bones like if you're thinking to yourself right now hey i would love to reach out to this person but so many other people are reaching out to them and they're probably to busy and they probably won't care about what i have to say. Is that how you feel about what you're gonna tell your prospects right like like. Isn't it deeper than that like. Isn't that almost prospecting itself right like to get these people that don't have a large attention span right like to get on. Their calendar is next to impossible. But like what people don't realize is that a of these people are willing to help. There's busy and so it's almost your opportunity to show that you can cut through the noise like that's almost the best practice or real life experience next to prospecting there is right. Yeah yeah and and it's a mindset thing to like if you're going into this thinking i'm not important enough. This person is so busy. I think in the in the world. You're talking yourself out of making the outreach attempt in the first place i mean you lost right there i mean that mindset is going to destroy you i agree and i think this is for like i said for the people who are still listening hour and a half in or wherever were at at this point that is a huge huge huge huge nugget. To take away because just remember like let's say someone's listening right now and they reach out to their favourite ten people linked in and none of them answer right. Let's say the worst possible scenario happens like let's say it takes months to get one conversation with somebody of this caliber. Let's just say on the calendar. Let me assure you right. Now that time that it spends is worth it and the conversation will be worth it so for anyone out there talking themselves out of it. Just go for it if you don't ask. The answer is always always know. Yeah yeah and. I've got a super easy way if you really don't wanna do the work and you want to write me. A check signed up for success summit. And we'll all be in the same place in october. That's the other hack here. is you know we. We love to be together and to learn from each other. And there's a lot of conversations that go on in the sales success community between people who've been on the podcasts and listeners. Like alex and people who've been on the podcast previously and and all these kinds of things and there's nothing more fun than hanging out together so if you're lazy the challenge that is talking about vista somebody the other day. I'm like. I'm like the anti salesperson though when it comes to the summit because if i have to convince you to come. I don't want you to come right like this is for the people that get it right that. Want to be part of this club and understand the value and this is just no brainer. Like that's four. And if i have to sell you on this never mind. It's cool but please don't come. If i could just like encapsulate what you just said right there like that is the selling mindset like i know that was an awesome ad for the summit and i really hope someone goes now because they heard this but like what you just described scott like. Hey i don't want to sell you on this right like this is so obviously beneficial for you that if you don't feel it's beneficial i don't even care right almost like because i know you're crazy type of a deal like. Isn't that how we need to be reaching out a sales people just like. Hey i know that you need this right and deep down you may know that you need this too but like if you're not going to give it the time of day or i'm going to have to beg you to go ahead and do something i can just move on and talk to somebody else. Yeah and it's one of those like i'm here. We are here. i'd love to serve you. I'm ready to help win your ready right. And maybe you're just not at that place yet and that's totally cool. We'll still be here when you are well exactly and then that just sets you up for you know going back to the push poll relationship not to just keep going back to everything we'd spoke about previously but that's the whole idea the push poll right when you're ready we're here. We know exactly what you need. When you work out the finances when you work out your mindset when you get time whatever the reasoning they used might have been a soon as that's dissipated right as soon as that's past you know they're coming back to you. Yeah yeah willing to get in that. That's the right. That's the buyer experience that you want to deliver. But it's the buyer experience that we want to. It's to know that. Hey this sales professional this is where the word comes into play like this person cares about me that care about my outcome there to serve me and so when it is time why would i call anybody else. Because i know they're gonna take good care of me. That's it like that is if you asked me. I think that's the direction selling going. I hope it's the buyer has all basically the buyer has all the power right like google and all of the search engines are out there like g to you. Know and reviews are all out there. Everything is out there in the open now so like i really do feel like. It's the time for sales people to not just be like sellers but to actually take pride in what you sell and being willing to tell people. Hey come back when you're ready right like that. Not like the ultimate strength like in showing of a salesperson mindset to say hey when you're ready you come back to me right right and again going back back back to kind of the jeff pejorative concept and this you know acting as if you were already at your number when you have that mindset and you feel like i can walk away versus i need this deal. More powerful is that. How much more powerful are your actions. And now you're going to attract those clients back there like. Oh my god okay. Well you know. Things changed april came. I'm working with my cpa on my taxes. And damn this is going to make more sense. I got a call. Alex you know what i would add something on top of what you just said but i think you said it so perfectly. Let let it finish like that. So well said all right seriously well put so we were talking about career advice and the other angle. I'm always interested in. Is the advice that you have for somebody. That is further into their career right. So they're they're in this place. They're in a spot. And maybe there. There's a couple of angles. I always take with this either. Either they're struggling or they're at a place that's good but they haven't made it to great or they haven't made it to number one. What's your advice for them for the folks that are in it right and have the experience like i think it can never hurt any of us to go back to the basics and see if we can even further. Simplify what we're doing. Because i think the further we get into our roles right especially me now you know. I'm going on to three years in one roll. Like i'm getting to the point. Where i almost know what people are going to say before they even say it right and i almost kind of know what i'm gonna respond before. The other person even finish their sentence. So i think sometimes we can build these habits that we don't really notice and so i think for someone who's a little bit more experienced and especially if you're not really in a place that you'd like to be right now or you'd like to see better results go back to the drawing board. Go back to the basics. Can anything be simplified like even just like like. Nobody wants to get tricked into doing a deal. I think it's getting very popular until like post a play that you were successful with unlinked in or whatever but like i really do genuinely believe if the core intention is to like trick someone or like manipulate someone right into doing what you wanna do. It just never really going to end the right way. So i guess i'd just say go back to the basics key things even simple and if they're already simple how can you make it even more simple beautiful. I love it alex. You have listened to a lot of these episodes. And i wonder if there's a question that i don't ask as kind of the regular questioned flow that you wish i would i think like obviously it's really great to hear people's successes in what they've done. Well but i feel like a lot of people will excuse me. I'll use myself as a circumstance as an example right like when i first started listening to the sales success stories. Podcast it was almost this veil of invincibility right that every guest had like i almost envision that like they never heard no or like they won every deal right like they had like hundred batting average but like we all go through a lot of hard challenges throughout the year like even the people that finished number one right like everyone loses a heartbreaking deal like everyone has the ball that bounces in the wrong direction. So i guess maybe like what was like that bottom point of the career right like where you fell like. Maybe being number one wasn't an option anymore or like maybe you felt like you wanted to quit right or like you were just ready to give up. What was it that helped you turn around. Because i feel like these days especially as a seller like that point is going to inevitably come like to try and go the year avoiding that. I think is almost foolish right. Yeah what is that for you and maybe we just put this in the context of the last year right because you finish number one. And i'm sure it was all roses as everything went perfectly rights. What was the thing i mean. What was the thing that you had to overcome. That almost took you off. Yeah you know. Sometimes when you're playing with a big lead it can make you a little too comfortable. So like i think there is definitely maintenance of the relationship between like. How hungry are you right like if you're hungry you're coming off as desperate right but if you're not hungry enough then you're just totally complacent like i think there's a line that we have to walk there right where there's like the energy and the intensity to do the output of the work that we need to do but the cue to be able to handle egos right and handle emotions and handle objections and finding those truths so for me. I would say it was actually kind of the latter end of the summer. And that's when that's when things slow down anyway but it's real easy to maybe get a little bit comfortable sometimes like i even this year. I have like a couple of months stretch. Where i hadn't signed deals or anything. So this stuff happens to everyone. It's not like how. Can i avoid going through a slump right. It's how am i going to be ready to get through that slump. When it arrives i feel. It's almost inevitable. Oh yeah so. I've i've actually been talking this in terms of and this is gonna sound weird. I feel like. I always have to preface it that way but planning to fail. And maybe it's not planning to fail. It's it's planning for life. I mean just planning for stuff to happen to you and and really having a little bit of a game plan going in no wing and even just thinking about okay. What are the things that could go wrong. And let's expect that we're gonna experience a lot of those things. So what am i going to do like when you're in a good place when you when you've got a good proactive mindset figuring out okay with an i gonna how am i going to react when i get thrown off my game sort of having that figured out in advance so then when it comes. You're like okay. I see you but now i already planned for you and this is how i'm gonna react an in really simple forms for me. Specially this part year like this this time of year like i am so on top of my habits and my process and all of that stuff right we. That doesn't start to break down until depending on how the years going sometime in february or sometime aren't straight but the trick is recognizing like okay at some point. I'm going to get knocked off and the streak is going to end. Yep the way. I look at it is okay. I'm willing to give up a day or even two days. But i'm not willing to give up more than that and then the game is get back on restart the streak and see if i can go even longer than i went in the earlier street and that for me. That's a huge challenge because again. I'm really good this time of year. It's a weird deal. I figured myself out. So i just play this weird game with myself of okay. Can you beat january scott right. That's so wall said scott and an almost reminds me of the classic mike tyson line right like everyone has a plan until they get punched in the face and it kind of reminds me running too because i did fairly recently get into running. My wife and i did a marathon last last march. And like when you run a marathon right like you absolutely know for a fact like there's gonna be a point that you're close to breaking down to go in with the mindset of. Hey let's just use the year for example like hey you know january scott right is going to be the best that i see all year. Then you're kind of inhibiting yourself in the future right like whereas let's say you say to yourself. Hey i know that january scott of is going to lose some steam. Because that's just how things go. What am i going to do then. Not just necessarily being so surprised every time. You know january scott physicals out. It's more so like you've got that preparation in your back pocket. four one. That bad time comes because the reality is situation. is that getting out of a slump. As quickly as possible is the best way to i. Don't wanna say save your job. Like is the best way to maintain consistency. Because we're all gonna hit those those patches and again like if you're planning for it it's not gonna feel so defeating going to feel like i said i do this every year like i fall off my game. This sucks. i'm a loser. What's wrong with me and you get into this horrible downward spiral but if it's if instead if you planned for like okay here it is. I okay awesome. Here's my opportunity to show myself that. I'm even better than that. That i've grown and and here's kind of the next level and you can tell i've been doing this for twenty years and i have figured out all the different ways that i can screw myself up. That's so well said it's like properly managing your expectations. You know like like to your point. If i'm just going through this sales year thinking that everything is going to be great to average all year and to your point you get hit with that slump. Then all the sudden you're in the you know. Hey i suck at this. You know the lead suck right and then it's like back to that old petty mind said where if you can't get if you can't shake that for a month or two like we're all of the sudden teetering on hair we even gonna make quota this year not right because we we couldn't get it together for a month or two of the year so like instead of trying to avoid those slumps downturns like let's shift our focus to tackle. We'd be prepared to overcome them when they inevitably happen. Yeah yeah that's the game. So alex we've covered a ton of ground. This been so much fun. You've totally made my saturday. We always try on an end on this. More actionable note. So what would you challenge. The person listening to this to do over the course of the next one to two weeks to improve themselves and improve their results to scott number one. I highly recommend everybody. Scroll way back down to the one of the very beginning episodes of the show and listen to dewan episode. His understanding of sales is just another level in my is a number two. Whoever's listening at home still hour and a half two hours in however far in we are. I challenge you to reach out to somebody on linked in that. You've been following for a handful of months. You would like to emulate their style and i challenge you to get fifteen minutes on their calendar. Love it great challenge. Alex this has been fantastic. Scott had a ball. 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WKPWP - Thursday Flagship - Keller & Fairplay discuss Rousey-Becky Twitter war, Bundy, Ciampa, AEW, Owens, Joe (3-7-19)

The Wade Keller Pro Wrestling Podcast

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WKPWP - Thursday Flagship - Keller & Fairplay discuss Rousey-Becky Twitter war, Bundy, Ciampa, AEW, Owens, Joe (3-7-19)

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Now, PW torch and spreaker bring you the Wade Keller pro wrestling podcast. It's time for the weekly flagship talking current events in pro wrestling. Jani King Kong Bundy died this week at age sixty one wrestlemainia to main event her I saw a lot of his career. Both first time world-class chip wrestling showed up on my TV screen. He was in that territory in the early part of his career. I also saw him in the Awa team with crusher Jerry Blackwell when when when Awa promoters for ganja, namely were trying to find opponents who fans would believe or credible against the road warriors. So they teamed up Bundy and crusher Jerry Blackwell to four hundred plus powders together to take on the warriors. But of course, what he's most any was also part of the legion of doom when legion of doom was more than just talking animal and Paul Ellery with Jake Roberts and King Kong Bundy part of the faction, but he's most famous, of course, for his run in WWE and headlining wrestlemainia to against hulk HOGAN, and I've always felt. He had a more significant role at a important time in WWF history. Then he got kind of credit for a claim for he's one of those wrestlers who made a vented for a while and was significant figure, but I think kind of passed over in terms of conversations and in wrestling, I maybe it's just because of the time that I saw him in the age that I was in the circumstances that he was pushed that I thought he was a bigger deal in history framed him, but now's the time to give them the credit that that he is doing put it in perspective. What are your thoughts on bunnies? Crip? I'm right there with you. I had King Kong Bundy in my childhood is one of the biggest bad guys in the history of wrestling. I mean, you know, wrestlemainia to like, you know, any anyone like you had Roddy piper. And HOGAN, you know, promo versus promo the whole rock and wrestling connection thing. You know? That's what fueled the first wrestlemainia. That's what brought it to be this larger than life spectacle of an event and to follow that up. You know, someone has to face the the immortal hulk HOGAN, and and that person chosen was King Kong Bundy. So I think that speaks volumes. I I have a question for you before before your further with with Bundy was was he involved in one of those loss like union or one of those laws. So so I think he I'm looking at it. He's falls victim to a revisionist history. That doesn't include someone that that you know, has pending legal action against the WB, which I don't blame the WB. I'm right there. I mean, you know, as much as you love someone if someone suing you, you don't love them that much right? Yeah. So I'm I'm a firm believer in that and life. Now, I don't know if he did anything predating the twenty six t the summer two thousand sixteen lawsuit the class action lawsuit that he participated in. But. Obviously, he wasn't a great standing with WWE just in general. He seemed like a name that they would have brought back. I don't know. How many I've I've actually I'm just thinking this interesting to research, it how many Hoke HOGAN pay per view opponents from you know, from the WWF oh can run pre and W O, and outsiders and all that. How many of them are not in the hall of fame? You know, how many who were main event pay per view opponent art in the hall of fame yet because it was a long time ago. You would think you know, it's it would be time to put them in the hall of fame. And I don't think Bundy is. And and I think he's deserving of it, given the, you know with all the respect to Tori Wilson, for instance. Sure and honky tonk man had a good run. But I think hockey dot man and Bundy are probably in a similar category. Bundy I think tonk man was more memorable in certain ways. But I don't think I disagree. I mean, I'm friends with McMahon. And I have Bundy ahead of head of honky tonk man by a lot. I mean, he was a main event biggest of the bad. I mean, like, you know, think about it, and like, you know, JAMES BOND folklore, the greatest bad guys ever know that you can you can simulate the career of HOGAN knows as JAMES BOND is just like who are the big baddies that that he? Defeated along the way in the Roddy piper, the big, John studs. And and the King Kong, bundy's. I mean, his name had King Kong in it. If you're not saying, he's he's a larger than life person. Who is the incredible hulk going to defeat the King Kong Bundy, well, and you actually kinda headed where I was headed. Which is I think man is is more memorable for a number of reasons in part because his character was so larger than life any state, you know, pretty active, including shoot interviews over the years that were controversy and all that and there's a lot of references to him because of that the lengthy intercontinental title rain in his claim, he's the greatest ever, which he said, you know, we say this all the time honkytonk man said he was greatest icy champion ever because it was meant to sound absurd. And ridiculous. Not because it was meant to be taken seriously without as time has gone on people think well, that's who you have to beat to have to be the best. Icy champ of all. He was saying he'll heat because he was awful in each heated to win and nobody took him seriously. And he wasn't a good worker. But he was he was an I don't say that as an insult because it sounds like it. But that was his gimmick gimmick was he wasn't a good wrestler. He cheated to win. And then he after cheating to win over and over and frustrating the fans he claimed that made him the greatest ever. So no, he wasn't the greatest. Icy champ of all time people if you're if you've bought into that narrative at all, but so that all kind of plays into there's been more references to honky tonk man as time has gone on. Because that I don't know how we got to comparing honky tonk in Bundy, they're like the opposite people and characters and a lot of ways. But but you're I'm with you Bundy felt like a monster. And obviously, you know, part of why he had many to his timing who was up next for HOGAN. And it was before wrestlemainia kind of became a a thing that Vincent man would plan real far ahead for like well who's online for HOGAN in March? But all that said. Sixty one way too young. And I would it'd be just a hell of a gesture for WWE to announce the next week or two that he he's going into the hall of fame. You know? I know the lawsuit issue is there, and it's very fresh in their minds. But you know, but hey, I mean, if people felt legally they had a case or they were, you know, pulled into it by lawyer that's their right? I agree. WB doesn't have to love them and honor them in the process. But I think at this point, you know, the for whatever, however the criteria matters in the WB hall of fame is is not meant to be taken mush incites out meant to be. It ought not be taken super seriously in terms of the criteria. But there's kind of a loose criteria that we all just kind of look at it and go, hey to be featured on that night. Hey, it means the world is Sean woman. You know? I mean, he eat tweeted that like this means a lot to the rest are. So I can sit here and say, well, it's not as stringent criteria and people get in based on politics, and who's going to draw in you know, who's in who's in good standing with people. I get all that. But it means so much to the wrestlers to stand on that stage in front of their peers in in front of that large audience on WWE network. And so I think it would be I think it'd be a cool kind gesture and not charitable it would be dessert for Dobie to do that for money this year. I believe he petitioned to be into the WBZ hall of fame. I think as a consolation prize he was inducted into the New Jersey wrestling hall of fame, I think like two years ago. So, but I mean, go past his is is wrestling. He leaves one of the greatest legacies in the history of entertainment, not just sports entertainment. And that is the creators of married with children the Bundy. Family after King Kong Bundy that's not at the sun joke. It's true. A David Blaustein. Oh, bud. Bundy good friend of mine. You know, he there's an episode where can Bundy treat taught. But Monday to Russell he was a was in a bee costume. And he recounted the story on on a social media yesterday. I went back and did a digital research just to confirm, and yeah, the creators favorite wrestler of all time was King Kong Bundy, and they named the Bundy family after after Kim Jong bunny. An I I don't know if this. I mean, like, you know, sure, you know, I think the, you know, the actors of their, you know, in and it holds up, but, you know, maybe if their if their last name was, you know, you know, bumpkins or or something like it, maybe doesn't catch may, you know, may maybe all those things have to place on undis- little obscure network that that you know, other than the Tracey Ullman show. A lot of people never heard of maybe maybe married with children's not a the phenomenon that it is, you know, through outside, which means no Simpson's. And no American idol. Well, the one of the two as a bad. That's good. On now mannequin going Bundy. Yes. Yes. Quick I met king going, buddy. I did a I I started my wrestling career and nineteen ninety eight I believe in Greensboro, North Carolina. And one of the first indie shows, I did I was I was a, you know, pesky he'll manager and one of the first shows I did was a baseball show. I believe it was my first one was at degrees, Greensboro, bats stadium. Bruce Mitchell was there Chris cruise nailed me with the steel chair and earlier that that that night. The Greensboro bats was was a double a baseball filial team for the Yankees. And Derek Jeter is on that same field as me that that night fast forward. I think maybe a month or two months, and I work I'm working another baseball show in in Burlington with Carolina and King Kong Bundy was on the show, and he was. The the the he'll dressing room at the far end of the field. And he was he was walking up very slowly number one. He was a large, man. Number two. He didn't care. This is Indies show. He was getting his forward or bucks in. No hurry whatsoever. And I had said something like a. You might wanna might wanna jog perhaps, you know, lose a couple of those excess pounds, and I didn't I said it as kind of a throwaway line, not really paying attention to Bundy as as I said it, and you know, minutes later he finally got to where I was shocked. Choked me, rather stiffly. Not care for the line. And he he sought shoot choked me. There's a Korean who. Now can company is their hero just from positively. I on I was the happiest kid you've ever seen. Me like he's really to me. Wow. He's really joking me. So me, Joe Brown Stroman moment. Yeah. Go. So it was a I'm I'm happy to have worked with him. I talked with Bundy afterwards super sweet guy. So funny. So nice shared stories with with all the boys really, really gracious guy. Very I've for me personally. And I think, you know, obviously, others huge loss. I really wished in the last few year. I mean, that's the guy, you know, watching him hold court with other wrestlers, he would have been great on one of the the dinner with three things or whatever on the like that. I mean, I it just like I don't like those shoot video things I'm berry because they're they're promoted in there and even produced in a way to be very negative, and that you know, that's for the most part the idea of shoot. Video and I love just hearing the fun. Good stories. And and and I think you get that with the dinner with three thing is is that what table for three. Sorry. I was like I know off a little bit. Yeah. Billing table, those are usually fun, and and and and and good spirited. And and I wish that Bundy could've done. I mean, maybe a lot of shoot videos are friendly nature. I'm guessing that you know, about every video of f. Mcmahon is the worst does, you know, like, oh, you know, there's these guys had I mean, you know, being in the locker room in here in these stories like Nikolai Volkov was one of the nicest guys I've ever heard in one of the great. I mean every time I would work with him. And and and Canada. I mean, I I would just have the biggest smile on my face. Just just hearing him tailed details. Larry's the Bisco another guy. Just just amazing storage Ellen and King Kong Bundy right there. I mean, I just you know, that that's a loss in it. And I and I wish that others had had the opportunity to experience stuff like that that I did cool. And of course, the five count referee count to five he wants except the victory unless it was a five count and that should be brought back. Yes. Biggie was doing the five count for a while. Right. I did rings a bell. 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Flashback Jason Paul joining me to review raw with live callers. Sometimes onsite correspondence. And always emails that'll be coming up again this weekend. It's fun to look back at what's going on five years ago with Batista. Daniel Bryan, the wrestlemainia thirty hype the more things change the more things. Sometimes very often. Stay the same. Mike today is Johnny fairplay. He was a he's been a manager on the indie scene and also in TNA wrestling. He's probably. The best known for his appearances on the penalty torchlight cast. I mean on survivor on CBS, but he has been a frequent co host and guest of wrestling podcasts in recent years in it's good to have him once again here on the WKBD DP flagship thanks Johnny gray to or thank you. Wait. What what what did I leave off your resume that you'd most like to also include? I would I would mention I'm one of the greatest hosts ever of the survivor innocent w live shows coming up next week in Durham, North Carolina. Wednesday, March thirteenth also my birthday party tickets available survivor, kicks dot com that same traveling show. That's so awesome. To to catch live. You can see in Baltimore on April, tenth and. Los Angeles may burst at once again survivor ticks calm and a huge appearance in Nashville at zanies on April twenty four tickets for that event at a survivor after hours dot com and all those things on promoting that's because the podcast that I do the survivor in s f w podcast me and my co host Matt Bischoff from survivor care Mohan. We talk about survivor each week instead checked it out on itunes Spotify or wherever you pod, especially where you listen to this pod, you understand how pods work people. So search survivor space in SF w or just survivor innocent W dot com. All right. Very cool. Thank you, Johnny. Let's let's turn the page to topic number two, which is breaking news on Wednesday of this week that Moscow Champa is set to undergo neck surgery, a tough tough news for him with a pending call up to the main roster. He is X. It's it's some serious and he'll be out a while. But it sounds like he will have a full recovery and be able to come back. I don't have details. I don't know if this is along the lines of of what Kurt angle had done or more like edge and Shawn Watson, but wrestlers have had neck fusion surgery and major surgeries and come back in had good good careers. The thing with champ as if he has to adjust his in ring style because of this or if decides it's wise to do it because of this even if it's not required. He's so good in so many ways he'll be just fine. He's had a quite the quite the journey to become a, you know, a guy in the mix on on the indie scene to somebody. In annexed t who is in the in the golden tear, you know, kind of the top six acts in annexed at a at a time when I think people during an era of annex t that I think people will look back on fondly when everybody kind of ends up going either going their separate ways or going to the main roster so tough news there, and especially in I want to stay away from spoilers on this. But there's something airing in terms of an angle that would kind of take DIY in a certain direction that happened on last week's show. And then there's a follow up during the dusty Rhodes tournament on TV. And now the kind of have to do some rewriting things to to accommodate him being gone. He won't be able to be in a big match at wrestlemania this year, which is certainly a bummer, and but an XT now has a month and another set of TV tapings to steer themselves in a new direction for whatever they're going to do on takeover unrest many weekend on takeover weekend. Johnny reaction to that news that sucks. I love ciampa. I mean of of the the the people that have gone from another promotion to annex t and and undergone whatever changes that they were given their he might be head and shoulders number one of anyone. I mean, like Johnny Gargano was I was kind of still that same likable guy before he out there. I don't you know. I don't see. I don't feel like there was a lot of tinkering there. Samoa Joe, you know, same thing nakimora, I never saw prince pretty before he out there. You know? I just just for the characters that they created. I mean, he just embodies a he'll, you know, I I had a chance to be at the the the house show in Durham North Carolina for the last the the call the call up matches for for Lacey, Evans, and any C three. And and there was a six or a tag match with. Velveteen dream and Elster black against DIY. And you know, built-in dream puts a little t shirt on on this. You know, two three year old kid and ciampa goes in, you know, two minutes of the match just takes the t shirt from the kid and the kitchens Ballin. And and you know, you would think you know, ob- sorry is like, no, I'm not sorry. I'm a he'll I play. He'll I don't apologize. I mean going back. I it was either year year and a half on Twitter. You know, the WB network tweeted, you know, hey, something about small so chop on he took a screen shot. And it's like, you know, you have blocked Debbie now like. Like. Blogs the date of network under contract. I mean, the guys great I hate that. They gave him music. You know, the guys just like, I'm not giving you music to like, I mean, there's just everything he does. He does. So. Well, so no, no, you were mentioning, you know, at the beginning of of of the statement of this. You know, the fact that if he does have to change his style, you know, so be it. I'm right there with you. I mean, I think the guy can literally do less moves than John CENA and still be a top tier worker and in and in the world. I agree. I agree with everything you said, he's a mass recession media, a master of of kind of being old school in that he's consistent with his character on air and on social media. He he leaves you wondering a little bit or a lot about what he's really like. And you just respect the hell out of him for that. He'll should make kids cry and no should not apologize. I mean, you know, within reason, but exactly there's there's there's a line. I mean, yuck. Getting in the face of a of a six year olds dad and telling the dad, you know, he's a loser addressing down and having the dad back away that's going too far. But you know, it can assign on the kids hander being he'll ish where a kid of reacts and Christ. That's that's fine. I'm not even using a specific example. I'm just saying, you know, there there is a line for any young aspiring hill. Wrestlers listening to the show in OD don't want to emasculate a family in front of their their kid or anything like that. But but yeah, this is a. An unfortunate timing and he's had a rough rough stretch as far as this goes one idea. I ran this by Sean Radicati who is on the way killer processing post show yesterday covering smackdown. I texted this to him when when we were going back and forth about the Champa situation. People are trying to figure out what to do with Oscar and some people say, well, you know, she could use a mouthpiece and somebody suggested page to me a few days ago. I think at an Email I look at what they did with Oscar attacking Mandy rose and Sony DeVille from behind and not really providing context for why it's okay for you, speak speaking a heels heels do that. But why would a baby face just come up and attack someone from behind, and I was one onto but still we're blurring the lines Wade. Yeah, they don't. But they don't exactly that. They don't know what to do with Oscar now because her gimmick is how good she has athletically, and that's just not, you know, they're kind of doing that with ricochet. You know, you know, look at all I thought it gives but they're also giving him Mike time. So you can connect on a personal level. And Oscar I mean, if I'd go back five years, I tell Aska do nothing when you travel other than, you know, practicing clich and get better at it because we're gonna make so much more money. If you're if you become semi fluent in English because that's what for better for worse. That's what demands out of out of top baby faces and I think she could be baby face. But since that English isn't there and the connection with the crowd is something visit man feels he can't he can't get her to that. I mean, she's champion on smackdown. Let's not she's not getting buried, but she could be so much more because she's so talented, but as a heel managed by Tomasz, oh Champa as her spokesperson. I would that'd be a way to get champ on TV. And I'm intrigued by that. I haven't fully fleshed out like how do it? But I kind of liked the idea the key would be or the I think the number one. Reason not to do it is can you go from being a manager to then being taken seriously as a major singles act, and if you don't have a history of fans before that like, you know, will overtake Leo rushers if he goes from today's arosh so now. Yeah. But Champa if they'd have to tell the story the right way in incorporate this is a bad Esra was annexed champion. And and the he was you know, he was already on the main roster about to become a fulltime guy. And then this happened. He's bidder he is now out to you know, to just scorch earth WWE until until the neckbrace is often he can wrestle and do it himself like us the managing as as a as a way to build up the moment that the that the bell rings and he can wrestle but he's on TV cutting promos. In the meantime, and getting Osco over. I I'm I'm kind of intrigued by that. Also, just because I'm desperately trying to find a way for him to to be active and not have to sit out an extended period without any TV exposure. Let's say. Do the Kurt angle surgery. You're out two months and spend that time rehabbing and come back. It's I think you'll be gone longer than that. But well that wasn't Kurt angle. Did he do he goes like everyone did or which one everyone did the neck fusion, and he didn't alternate approaches? So that you know, he thought he could come back sooner. Yeah. And and he did. Yes. And now he can barely stand without falling backwards. You know, I mean, I don't know. I mean, it could be related or couldn't. But I have no idea. I honestly, I don't know if he made the right choice or not for his long-term well-being. You know, that's that's a level of medical records. We we don't have. But sure. Yeah. Ciampa should do whatever's best for him. And if there's a way to work, I mean, shoot put him in on just Corey graves need to be on on every show. Oh, that's a good point to counter. Yeah. Just about you know. The way Mon diamond smackdown or throw him on raw. If smackdown is the number one show, and you know, and so in have Corey, you know, have it be Corey and. Daniel Cormet on smackdown. And then it can be in. Oh, ciampa and Rene on wrong. But what about Byron Saxton what he can be on? Both. Okay. Care. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. We've created a new way to protect you from unpredictable interest rates are exclusive rate shield approval. I we lock your interest rate for up to ninety days. Then if rates go up your rate stays locked. But if rates go down your rate drops either way you win. Call us today at eight hundred quicken or go to rocketmortgage dot com, racial approval. Only ballot on certain thirty year fixed rate loans, all for cost information and conditions. 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But you know, ricocheting and black or are I I would expect them to be on wrestlemainia now with with the way the the great tag team because the the entire time. I was watching them in annexed t I was like, oh, man. They're going to be such a great tag team together. You know, because I see ricochets shining star of us of a, you know, just a singular personality that can do all these moves by himself. He's so really awesome at it. And then you have a guy that I could never see working in a tag match ever, which I thought was really special seeing him with velveteen dream. But it it is the strange bedfellows thing. I kind of get it. But no not now. Now it says, hey, we're glad handing baby pace tag team. That makes no. Sense on any level whatsoever. So I just hate that so much now seeing the two of them like every show that I see them on like, I'm just like, I I can't stand us. I mean, how can you not see those two as just just amazing singular singles superstars well. And that's the frustration going back a few weeks to the cavalier waves McMahon brought foreign XT wrestlers onto the program. I mean, the the lack of respect for triple h and what they are doing on that brand was I'm not going to say stunning because I think it's kind of you know, in in line with what pow Hoven sick man, his the lack of awareness. He showing what what is all about? But I mean, Joe abo- Castro and in triple h and all the creative people in annex t they they the pride of craftsmanship in in the pacing of their stories. And and the one was such a big one into throw them on television. Just the two of them. I know there's time heat and how shows and stuff, but as far as TV those trusting each other in two onto tag team match that was a moment that was being built up, and we saw that on last week's TV this agreement to team up which lost some of its steam considering the head teamed up a couple of weeks earlier, we can have earlier. So it just it's so disrespectful of to do that is beyond that. I mean, like, you know, you talk about the the hours of TV that we've logged in his fans and the date that they that they've logged in as as carpenters of their craft has writers. And all I mean like in everyone doing what they're supposed to. But even beyond that social media. You know, when we saw we saw the social media of ciampa, and and Johnny Gargano, and and and and Kansas, Laura like, you know, he moved out of the apartment left the I mean, it's just like oh my God. These guys were so, you know, not to steal a phrase from another promotion, but they were all in the, Yup. They knew that it was real. They gave you an immersive storyline across the whole ecosystem and all platforms that you could buy into with an asterisk next to it going. I know what show biz but they didn't. But they didn't roll things in your face contradicted in. And that's all I ask is just like it's not that you expect people to believe it's real, but give them the option to do. So without throwing it in their face that it's not that was the issue with with Br. Lebron's Stroman in Roman reigns on an overseas tour stopping at a landmark in posing for a picture together on Instagram, and that going public at a time when they were in a bitter feud, and you know, try to kill each other and trying to kill like, no don't do that. Like, it's not that. We don't think maybe these guys do travel together. But don't throw it on our face the week that you're trying to get heat on a he'll and champion Gargano are a model for that. And they have been and that that's one of the reasons I was so angry couple of weeks ago on the post show. I would bet money. Well, the first part they I there is no need for bet. I I think it's more than obvious. If you if you've known them before all this that that ciampa and Gorgon our best friends. Right. I'm willing to bet money that instead of writing to towns and from towns with their best friend, which I'm sure they would have loved to have done. They purposely did not travel with one another to keep the mystique alive. Yeah. And you know, I know reasoning. No, no, I agree. And and this is a little sidebar, and I did a little mini rant on it on Monday. But w WBZ's gotta stop putting a guy holding a camera, usually, it's a guy role woman. But whatever whoever's holding camera the roving cameraman in the spot where a wrestler is going to go where wrestlers don't usually go don't put a camera there at a time. They did that for dean avarice when he ran through the crowd when he went through the crowd, and they had a hand held camera stationed on the. Floor or two second shot for a two seconds shot. If I'm a kid watching that or I'm a heck and adult you're throwing in my face that everything you see is planning like give us a little room viewers to just lose ourselves in the moment know, give us a chance to lose herself in the moment in the fact that they stace in you know, sometimes there's like security will back fans away like in the concession stands. They're going brawl up into the concession stands. You're like you can't you can't go. You can't buy a t shirt right now. Because not that this is scripted anyway. But to others are going to fight up these stairs over to those t shirts that you'd like to buy right now. But we'll be available in twenty minutes. And I it sounds like. It it it shouldn't be too much to ask. That's all. It's just that's the things they give up to get that like that to second shot like how much better would it have been. If when dean went through the crowd, the camera guy filed him, and he had a shot that wasn't quite Crispin clear because he was following dean. And it was a rocky camera shot. All of a sudden, you're conveying defense got to wonder if team is supposed to go there. And here's the thing. One thing they work so hard, and we'll get to this with Becky in. Rhonda there's times when there's these things that feel real and it gets people excited and WWE takes the fire extinguisher out in extinguishes it needlessly just for a camera shot, and it's something that they should that. There's the trade office so much greater than the benefit like getting back to like the t shirts. I've I've been to show where they fight up the stairs to to the campus. So they block it off. So I don't know if you if you bid to like, a raw or pay per view or smackdown Rae. These shows that have a lot of people, you know, even more so than you know, maybe. A house show as has half the crowd, but there's still consistently nonstop people at the soup at the souvenir booth there. There's people constantly by the entire show when matches are going under. So so they're showing you on a raw smackdown. Just to get this clever shot that's not that clever. They're getting they're gonna make it. So no one's there. So if you're watching at home, it's just like man, I guess teachers aren't that big a deal? No one's there in line to buy one all this shot. Now, the optics the optics are are are so bad, and I get insurance and worrying about getting hurt. But just don't do that. Then you know, or or or or hire a barn Chauve extras to to be to be fans in an area where you don't need security the fans can be milling around. And then they in hopefully, they don't ham it up and over act, but then they scatter from the concession area. You know, you you've got the budget. Do it. Right. So that's my mini rant. And it's it's more of a it's more of a tip of the hat to Gorgon when Champa. Good. I mean, I guarantee I mean, how long is this feud been going on now or are we closing in on two years? Maybe at least a year, right? Yeah. Okay. And so the champion Gargano more than that. Yeah. And these guys I guarantee I mean, I just how mad would you be as I said like, they're they're so in his characters in in like, you know, if you're starting a resume Russian as the first two day, two guys you hire right there one two bam because I guarantee I mean, they would've loved to have ridden with each other to to and from shows their best freakin friends. I for the sake of the art that they love their dislike. No, no. Like, you know, we'll talk on the phone. But like, I just it's just like, hey, you guys are together. It's great. Thank you. I'm Jay Farner, CEO of Quicken Loans, America's premier home purchase lender. 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No matter what level of of shoot and realism or blending of it that you thought was going on or or, you know, real real frustration intention that Rhonda's that Rhonda really feels and they're trying to parlay that into, you know, something that would cross the line into the ring. That's all fine. What bothered me is is how incongruent it was with what we saw Ronda Rousey on TV. And now they have merged into a single lane as over on us rant on raw on Monday. And so that's to me. That's good. The Rhonda the the the what's the word to describe Rhonda on social media. And then what she went through on raw. Like, it doesn't seem like flipping out. Out or maybe snapping just snapping on rollock. She has on social media is is now consistent in again. We talk about social media consistency. And now we have that. I think this is a a good place for Ronda Rousey to be in the hand was forced fans were rejecting. Rhonda's the word but reacting to her in an organic way that was inconsistent with what WWE wished for and forecast and wanted with Rhonda in it's not fair for Ronda Rousey, who's not a lifetime performer in this professional wrestling industry to put her out there and have a crowd response that goes so against how the scripting presents. How the commentators present her Roman reigns? He's got family in in wrestling. He's multi generational family. He understands how the business works, and he can stand out there and Geragos shoulders and kind of smile and shrug it office. Hey, this is how the business works. But Rhonda seem to take it personally. A legit. It wasn't fair to keep putting around there. Under those circumstances. So line her character. And a good way with how fans organically feel about her also given the lay of the land in right now Becky is the top star in part of why fans were pushing back against Rhonda, including at Staples Center in her hometown. She said, which I think perhaps humiliated her to a degree is because they see her as getting in the way of what Becky deserves. So I like where they landed on Ron Monday. And I'm intrigued to see where it goes from here. John your take on any of that the social media and just the the way Rhonda's being pushed, I love the social media. I think I think they both you typic- or I guess typically is the word we we've been watching Becky Lynch own Rhonda on social media. I mean, she's just so good. She's so quick. I I was listening to the Wade Keller perusing podcasts posts a Roth podcast that you did. And you know, someone's just like, do you think writers are writing their social media? I'm just like have you have you watched maybe television last four years? They're writers aren't that? Good. The media's great also there's nobody would right. Ronda as crazy as Rhonda is in real life. No people like Paul Heyman's, you know, Paul Heyman's brilliant. He's worked with rod on her promos. I if every word Rhonda has said was written down for her and memorized. I mean, I I will I will tip my hat to Paul Heyman Rover wrote for because this just seems based on scene. Rhonda. You know, what her personality outside WWE and her autobiography, and and her media interviews and all this in her body language, and how intense she is. And how you know, the the happy toddler angry toddler dichotomy of personality. Like, it's either or with her the things she says in in. There's a there's an immaturity mixed with an intensity mixed with a just a weird kind of flaky nece to her that that you just can't manage. She's not really manageable. So it comes through. It's like for people who didn't see this. There are some who probably didn't back on February twenty six Becky told. Rhonda, Rhonda, Hugo back and get that belt. This is after Rondo laid down in the ring for a Stephanie, sir, you go back and get that Bill because I didn't come this far to collect it from Stephanie. I came all this way to take it from you. So the next morning Ron said that's what I'm trying to do dumb ass. Hobbling around trying to be a ginger, and this is this is a classic. Rhonda one. This is where I nobody writes, Ron you hobbling around tried to be a ginger crutch ninja in taking fake prison photos in the hallway is helping. The the president the fake prison thing was great. Yeah. Because it's true. Yes. Well, you know, because it was like, you know, mugshots Becky put something. I was just like, oh, the like, you know, when when they did those just like, oh, this is so WWE, but then for them to to talk about just like this is them being so much better than WWE. So so then Becky replied to Rhonda saying taking fake prison Photoshop so Becky says keep that effort out of your mouth and concentrate on getting better at this business instead of trying to remain above it looking forward to senior real soon. So that's Becky kind of playing into a possible reputation that raw that people might think Rhonda has that she thinks she's above the business that she's not one of the boys one of the girls. One of the the the the the camaraderie, isn't there that she thinks she's about it. You know, an amplified version of MS, oh, you're reality star gets to walk in here in become a, you know, something special. So this a Rousey fire back less than an hour later f word you mean fake fake like your nonsensical? BS arm bar in quotes that doesn't even work in just looks like you're holding the D wish you had on trying to stay not not explicit here on our podcast rating than Rousey included in. This was amazing rose. Included a picture of Becky applying an armband Rousey backstage in the attack last November on raw as her evidence that Becky has a fake arm, bar course, Rousey sold it for weeks. But so then Becky edited the photo to be set suggestive Inc member because this arm bar is Rhonda's aren't being cranked upward between becky's lex. So Becky, then puts the the the face the head cut out head of Rhonda's husband Travis Brown on the end of Rouse's arm, which Benke has her arms her hands wrapped around in his cranking on so Rondo replied, rip Rebecca, Quinn becky's. Real name. I don't I don't care. I don't care what the script says, I'm beating the living shit out of you the next time. I see you. So now it's heated up, and then hours later Becky goes, Ron Ron you still mad, bro. Just checking because he went full Russo. Earlier wanted to make sure you you made it back OK and then Rousey says. Hour later lawyer outbid you're about to have plenty to sue me for. So that's the lead into Monday and an in between all this Becky tweeted, a picture of Tommy was oh from the room with Rhonda's face on it. And I'm just like, okay. This is way WWE writers or a referencing the room this. This is good people doing good stop this is. I mean like, yeah. Never in a million years. Would you get a room reference from WB? Yeah. So I I don't know to what degree Rhonda's being coached into what degree becky's just playing off of authentic Rhonda being triggered the Rhonda being authentically triggered. And I I I'm fine with there being a mistake to that. And I won't even necessarily believe some of the stories that come up because I talked to people who are protective of Rhonda and talk about how great she is. And what it good sports? She is and heart. She works in everybody loves her and. Yes. But I also maybe there isn't the come robbery with the girls were Becky light travels at the girl. Maybe Rhonda doesn't I think maybe run as I said, I know the boys love, Rhonda, my rot. Rhonda Rhonda holds court whenever she wants to with the boys. So I, but I also know there's an aspect of whatever's going on with Rhonda that matches her personality this this is not a stretch for Ron to rant on Monday. The way that you know. And in his for the people call in on the Monday show, and they're just like, you know, hey, you know, Rhonda's fail. Rhonda was not failing as baby face. Rhonda was not failing as a superstar in WB Rhonda has as as taken everything that they have given her an over excelled. She has been amazing. Rhonda's only problem is Becky Lynch is one of the biggest stars in the company. Yes, that's her only failing. And and that has nothing to do with her that has to do with writing and them putting the two of them in in the same air together. Yes. While the Wade Keller perusing post shows and Wade killer. Pro wrestling, podcasts and PW. Torch daily casts are all ad-supported free programs. You can make the ads and plugs. 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Another thing to keep in mind through all of this is that there is no way you can look at the last three weeks six weeks eighteen weeks TV and say that would be master plan. This is just step by step what they plan. Same daniel. Bravo. Let's go back in time. Or when when a Dana Bryant, I win the belt six years ago now yet. Yeah. Okay. You you had you had you Ed Shaw. Waldman on your podcast talking. Just keep watching weight keep watching you. They know what they're doing keep watching. You know, I had shown what been doing a podcast with me. We did a weekly podcast. Sean would lie on my podcast, say fair-play. They know what they're doing. Just keep watching just keep watching. Meanwhile, you know, I have friend Jimmy Jacobs is having dinner with with with Daniel Bryan the night before the Royal rumble is just like, so you're win the rumble right and Dan O'Brien going. No, they hate me. And they're like, but you've got to win because you would think, but they hate me. Passports to after mania, you know, the do the right thing, and you have shown Waldman admitting to both of us. Yeah. That that that was that was last minute deal. They they hate him. They hate him. They didn't want to do that their hand was forced up just like, Becky Lynch. You don't have insect man suspending Becky Lynch for sixty days and overruling Stephanie and hunter, and then you have Stephanie just going, okay, we're gonna we're gonna take we're going to not have a sixty day suspension now like who's who's in charge? And there's no reaction hundreds different reacting. Cortana Zonta cyber no police about one hundred hundred staff aren't reacting to Vince, overruling them. Now, they're overruling. Vince, why did you suspend Becky for sixty days? And if such a lame reason to then reinstated or you have Rhonda Rousey one as Becky said, you know, your trying to. She last I'm trying to get my head around this Rhonda wants Becky, so she lays about in front of Stephanie and says I want Becky and then next week. She wants Becky so bad. She tries to beat her up. So she can't face Charlotte on Sunday and win. So that Becky can then be in the match at wrestlemania. I mean, if we really, and we haven't gotten to this part, I haven't in my life trying to like map this out where they're going the whole storyline last week is Rhonda really wants to face Becky because Ron is a standup AB face who wants to face the best. And it looked like it was a last-gasp a last gasp to try to get run over with the fans because Ron is right there with Becky going. It should just be us. One on one Rondo Becky won the Royal rumble. I'm the champion. That's what the fans want give it to them, and they would be co baby faces and Ronda would get basically a rub from Becky for standing up to her the next week. Nope. Rana flips out attacks Becky try really diminishes chances being able to beat. Charlotte. Yes, she'd be she beat up Charlotte a little Charlotte escape the ring. But Rhonda totally changed her personality from the week before. So the idea that that this is all some sort of master plan where they had this all mapped out three weeks ago, if they had this map three weeks ago, it's worse than if they didn't it's better to book on the fly and not have to answer. What you did the week before? Because you're nimble and changing as you go that's better than actually having to sit here and justify what they did the last six weeks with the storyline as if it was planned out because it would be indefensible as some of the things they did if this is crappy. Hey, we're crappy riot writers to pay no attention to. I mean, like like I would like to think that they knew that they were going to hunter and Batista in wrestlemainia with petits to be in the bad guy. Triple h BNB end the the good guy. Right. Then do why all why four weeks ago or hunter? And and Stephanie heels if you know that you're going with with triple h versus. Batista, triple eight baby face it wrestlemainia. There's no reason that week should exist. Up here. Here's an Email for for the show today from a bit who says so I hate how W B has no consistency in their storylines like back in two thousand nine Randy or one the rumble and then he punted Shane Vinson the head and hit Steph DT and kissed her mouth replay chose handcuffed. And w w we said we can't fire him because he has an ironclad contract to be in the main event that mania at resume twenty-five, and he could sue them for breach in two thousand nineteen they took away. Becky's wrestlemainia main event matching totally didn't bring that. I I ran clad contract thing gonna play very frustrating. Don't you think I'm not even sure I just ask the question. I've just venting anyway, everyone the IP, by the way, people torch, VIP info dot com to get details on what everyone's talking about what VIP membership entails. You know, that's another example. Now, they they could say retroactively what we no longer do ironclad contracts. We now have a Estra C built into the contract. That says, you know, we can we can take away this if you do this, but they never dress it, they don't respect the audience. So to do that in your right? The honnor in Stephanie the way, they're portrayed is. I mean, you can imagine like writing a like, let's say you had a college paper about like still like you would use hundred steps honor characters in like a TV entertainment script writing class about how not to right? I mean, the the inconsistencies within the WWE ecosystem and week to week on the same show or month to month this terrible. And you're right. How why why would they so much? What Vince does is to get him through this week? And it's possible that hunter and Batista thinkin. Yeah. I want to be, you know, but days like I want to be to heal. And in Paul's like, yeah. Yeah. I want to be the face. But every week hunters sees the script varieties like oh, God enrolls, his eyes. But you know, because he had Vince. But heads, and they are not. I understand that that we we're we're at where we are where we're at with Becky Lynch because they fought the current and the current one and thank God. And cool. I get Ness. Great. So, but I mean, you know, for a fact they knew it was going to be triple eight tours as Batista. So there there's that's not excusable for them for weeks ago to be heels. There's just no I mean, you know, as you said, it's just like, you know, probably hunter and Vince butting heads. But if but like it's just like in the answer. Just no it's like, you know, if I'm triple h is like Bullock, Kevin ash. I'm having a hard tech. Vincent, I go the hospital. Yep. So I can't go out there and be a he'll when when three weeks we're going to have a seventy year old, man. Get attacked by guy to seven angle. So that he's the he'll and I'm the baby face. Do. You think this woman remembers that Kevin Owens headbutted him and attacked him? No. Yes. No. He does. And he goes, they don't remember. They don't care. I mean, he's the guy that flat out said when he when he was supposed to die on television. He was supposed to die and Bruce Prichard goes. Okay, boss. If we do that you can't come back. He's like, okay. It's like it is just like our religious say for argument's sake that debt you're not listening to me. And that you come back. How would you explain like they won't remember? Dying. Then why do it in the first place? You know, you gotta own. Do. But does how little he cares about us is like they won't remember me dying. Stunning. It's stunning. Wherever you go. For energy on go. It's got to be five hour energy it works fast. It works long. 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I was genuinely excited for the main event over wrestlemainia now do to w WBZ desire to spice up the Bill to this event. They've completely sucked every last drop of air out of anyone who is excited for this. I hope for the sake of wrestlemainia that this Sunday Becky beats Charlotte. Then proceeds to kick Charlotte's ask some more after the match then Ron needs to show up and kick Charlotte's ass. Even more they need to do some kind of hot injury angle and get out of this match. It's so pointless Taviran there in the first place. Imagine if during the Bill to rock Austin, Vince decided Ed triple h to the match for no reason it's terrible booking. And really put me on the edge with WWE and not in a good way. Rant over PS. Go VIP. I don't watch any anymore and that is only possible because I'm a VIP member actually canceled my Spotify account. So I could afford to go VIP, and I would do it a thousand times over again. Thank you, James, PW, torch, VIP info dot com, given drive you haven't yet. And you'll be. Hooked I predict I can't promise. But I predict. Yes, I mean, this was that unless they can step back because Ronda Rousey against Becky Lynch is a match people wanted to see, and they could have affectively told that story with Rhonda as the above it, all but honorable baby face who is gracious enough to understand why why fans like Becky Lynch because she's she's been on this journey longer. And and all of that. But build up the tension between them they could have done a rock scene a situation and Rhonda could've been dignified and and just find afterwards. And Becky would have been a bigger star for it. And you have this one on one match the people wanna see, but it didn't involve Charlotte in involved a change of plans, and they have they have complicated it, and it's fun. It gives me a lot to talk about on these shows week to week a lot more than if Ron and Becky just do a booking wanna one build up a match that people already wanna see. So you just don't get in the way of it. And it could have done that. But they didn't. And so we have all the stuff we're kinda ranting about, but they had a match that that just was handed not handed to them sort of not gifted enough. But it presented itself within the context of what they were doing as a match that just get out of the way people want to see it. They'll pay to see it just have them cut promos becky's good. Rhonda's good. And they did all this other stuff in ninety people James from Clemson who are just frustrated because they added all they muddled up. What could have been this organic match that already was where you will as a promoter. You wanna match to be which is people can't wait for it to come around. So they can see what's going to happen in the can imagine who's going to win. And they can't wait to see those to go at it. Yeah. I mean, I I'm looking forward to an upcoming Super Bowl where there's three teams. I just think it's better. Well, what if there were two teams? Nobody cared about the Natta third team. You can make that argument. You really can't. But for the sake of my example, sometimes I'm against triple threat matches. I just in general, I think it's a crime they go too often. I it's it's it's to me. It's it's the it's the it's the chips in the bag in the cupboard. I'm gonna use my food analogy here where when you're hungry for a snack. There's a bag of chips. They're crispy salty and fat and crunchy, and you grab them. But if they were there and yet to go to the fridge and grab some carrots or clean, a vegetable cut it up and dip it in. You're not going to go to the trouble. But it's there you could have in. It'd be healthier to dip some red bell peppers and HAMAs. Whatever you know, what I'm saying here, and it'd be healthier you'd feel better an hour later. But when the bag of chips is air, it's like just it's the shortest route to me, that's a triple threat match. The triple threat match is the bag of chips. I don't wanna work is hard as I have to to make people care about one on one. So we'll add a third person in that makes it better. It's such a crutch there are times where it makes sense storyline. And don't tell me it protects. Rhonda. Because Rhonda can do the job no problems acre hand after the match, and and she loses. Nothing possibly gained something. I totally agree. The the idea that no Ron has got to remain undefeated indefinitely. No you. Yes. That'd be good. If you didn't have a red hot Becky Lynch who can Enron his undefeated singles record NBC super red hot and then start headlining. How shows I want to expect on how show last Saturday. Becky Lynn should have been there. The that was a show missing. A main event we got AJ styles and Randy Orton, and we got a Daniel Bryan against staf Ali, and we got Oscar in the main event the smackdown women's champion and control it, but it didn't feel like the main event because on television, Becky, Lynch and Kofi Kingston were the two red hot stars. They see by the way shame on WWE for how often they blatantly false advertise talent, I understand there's the asterisk card subject to change. But there's an abuse of that. And. Data India there were kids there with new day posters who paid money and look forward to seeing your day and Kofi wasn't there. And they didn't apologize. They didn't explain it. But they advertised it, and then you Becky Lynch, you don't know if he's going to be there. Not because she's being suspended one suspended the next is she hurt while she do a run in it. They're doing so many damaging things and things they can get that they can get away with but they are paying a price for it. They're doing damage. Those those eight nine thousand fans at target center in Minneapolis on Saturday night were amused. It wasn't. I've seen worse out shows, but it was flagged. The crowd reaction was largely tepid people reacted to moments of amusement. And I think they sort of had fun if you're a WWE fan, but it wasn't passionate. What nobody had a big adrenalin rush in. Nobody left pumped up. My my work. Nice my work. Yes. My exactly my word to describe it as as people were filing out. It looked like people leaving target after a reasonably productive shopping trip. And that's not how you should look when you're. Being a wrestling show. You should be pumped up and excited like you just one in overtime a game seven of the Stanley Cup. And the none of that was there. And so they make it more complicated than they should becky's hot gift or win over Ronda Rousey like you said Johnny Ron is going to be just fine. And sometimes they just complicate things that are simple in. It's not often as James or Email or points out that something comes along that just feel special in ready made. And you just have to get out of the way and they've done anything out of the way this one now. No chase Elliott here. Letting you know that when you spend twenty five dollars a nap of this month, you get free. Chase Elliott racing hat need to set a breaks. How about a new battery both or have replacing an air filter than adding on wiper blades and headlamps just to break twenty five bucks that works to go. Get your free. Chase Elliott today. Quality parts helpful people free hats. That's Napa know how. No. -ticipant enough auto part stores while supplies last offer ends three thirty one nineteen. All right. This is totally separate. But Kevin Owens. Go. Hey, yeah. Let's talk about chemical. It's we'll all I got. I watched smackdown. And okay. So I I did prep work for for for the show this week. Wait are so ashore with raw three hours worked worked my way to smackdown. Two hours than watch last week's in exte- that was an hour fifty six minutes. And then I watched the the being the elite. I think it was like eight minutes. I did learn the less wrestling you watch the better. I. I think I listen to wrestling all day long. That's why I'm a real. I have podcasts going. I love it. I, you know, give gimme endless hours. It's great. So you know, you come in, you know, two hours sometimes perfect something to wrestle with. Gimme a three hour episode. Great. You know, what happened women Shabani as long as cassio kids on on there? I can go three hours. It's fine. I get it. It's okay. Audio wrestling fine. Watching wrestling not good wrestling, three hours. Not so good. But Kevin Owens my God. He comes to the ring. And and and I'm like who is this person wearing Kevin O in skin suit. Because the words coming out of his mouth do not jive with anything man his ever said in his entire career. So let me let me get a base. Let me get a base position from you on Kevin's word you in advocate for him being a baby face. Todd Martin stance about this. And we've talked I've talked about. Cbo's to the fact that they gave us stuttering like hell, yeah. But giving but but like I won't I won't him going. My son came to me and said dad, if you're going to be the person that you are I understood I understand enough now in life. You're a bad person. And you're not my hero. I need that moment before I get this crap. Right. As I said, he's just saying words, I'm just like those don't make since coming from that mouth at all. So the only thing that that jived up was when when Dana Brian goes, the only reason they like us coach you look like them and the cameraman the camera guys. God bless them. I'm I'm friends with a lot of them. They some fans it looked eerily similar to Kevin Owens for all the wrong reasons and God bless them for so in that. It was like an inside joke going. Hey, watch this. But but other than that. I mean, it just it was so it was toned up where it's just like there's no way that we're here enlists conversation that I'm talking about place, and we're going to reveal that later I as a viewer or as a fan should not care right now. If you're asking me to care about Kevin Owens, I shouldn't. And I won't Kevin Owens is the baby face fans like Kevin Owens is a he'll not because they thought he was a good. Good father. They liked them because they wanted to see his acerbic wit and ruthless aggression. Oh, use that term turned against heels. They liked how how quick witted he like part of the problem with Rhonda is she doesn't come across as quick rid it quick. Now, quick witted. She comes across as clumsy and arrogant passionate passionate, but kind of embarrassing, you know, like. Kevin Owens was never Amarasinghe. He's he's the guy that is out. No matter. What comes his way? He's got. He's got exactly the right words with a right cadence, and you want that guy on your side. And so they did kind of take that away. No. He got you know, he's a stood opposite of Rowen and said, hey, Redwood what he wants. And he had some things that he said to data O'Brien which were good. And I did I like the exchange. I'm I am. I am confused. I'm enjoying Owens and Brian bone back and forth. But I am like you confused about this approach. Now was this rushed because they flipped Owens and Kofi and Kofi is going to take on Bryant wrestlemainia. Instead or what I don't know. I also think fans are sitting here not quite exploding for Kevin Owens, like they ought to or like, you would think they would for a baby face turn. Because I think the rightfully suspicious thinking this can't be the this isn't the guy we knew we're not going to cheer a guy who we think is being a little too pure in in sweet in precious. About family and getting his priorities straight, it how you pop for that it feels suspicious. So they've given us nothing. I mean, just give us one little thing. Yeah. Yeah. No. I know I refuse to cheat. Like, I I've begged for I I was just like you got stone cold right there. And then they give the stunners like man, they got stone cold right there. And I'm what I'm just like this guy has given me not reason one to cheer for him a refuse to cheer until he does. Yeah. Yeah. What what do you? What do you think they're going to do with Dana Bryant wrestlemainia one on one with Kofi multi person match triple? It'll be better. Yeah. Well, I did call Bruce Mitchell during smackdown because I Archer was very funny this week on smackdown. I enjoyed the John scene of stuff in John CENA's, his childhood hero. And and you know, he even move it. Even in a movie about a car that later became an alien robot. And I just thought, you know. And then when when Lacey Evans comes out is just like all right challenge done. So, but but I I did call Bruce Bruce Mitchell when when the match began Corey graves enlighten the audience for those that have never seen a fatal four way before there's a seventy five percent chance that we're getting a US title chains this evening, Bruce. I don't know if you're wearing this that seventy five and he goes, yeah. It doesn't matter. Who's in the ring doesn't know sir there? Four people. There's a seventy five percent chance we're getting a title change in by God Corey graves was right? Wade keller. Well, I don't know. I don't know if you can technically be right about a statistic that is both factually wrong. But mathematically rational, I it's like if you know, it's like if there's an election. People say somebody has an eighty percent chance to win in the pursuit at a twenty percent chance to win wins. And then everyone goes off the posters or wrong. It's like, no, they're not four out of five times under that set of circumstances with the data points that they had person a would've won one out of five times the pollsters telling you person be would've won this was that one out of five times. It's not it's not a mistake. If died lands on number three. There was even though there's only one in six chance it would happen. It's not wrong. It just only had a one it's happening. So with with so mathematically if it's a set of twins or set of quadruplets who altering xactly the same that exactly the same life experiences. You still won't be one in four. But it's not that. So. Are you trying to tell me that Samoa Joe and? But I I like some oh Joe's ios champ. I mean, I I was like I almost here. I mean because Joe, and I have been friends since TNA, y y you know, an an and still still remain friends to this day, you he was is one of the guys that was that's always been, you know, if not more than nice respectful of joking. Just just a really awesome guy. And you know, it's, you know, going back to the something to Russell. Podcast. You know, Conrad's asking about, you know, this Samoans related this and base. It all comes down to every Samoan that's ever wrestled ever in the history of ever or all related and then there's similar Joe. And so this guy to finally get a get a tight. I mean, you know, we talked to last time on the flagship, you know, this this is just chose been there three years. Now, he's missed his first two wrestlemanias. You know, the first time that he was supposed to do like a like a running because you know, he did media row. The you know, the the the weekend wrestlemainia goes don't worry. You're gonna see me. I they have something very big plan for me. I've been told I don't, you know. And I think he was expecting some kind of running of some kind didn't happen. It's like ooh that that's gotta hurt. And then, you know, fast forward, you know, last year, I believe us hurt. And so, you know, this this is third year in the company never been in a wrestlemainia. This'll be as I I'm sure he'll be. In a multi person match because those are better. And but to see him finally get gold of any kind, and whether you know, whether it be the US title or anything else, I'm just so that the guy deserves every accomplishment that you can give a wrestler when it's all said and done he's a guy that as in my hall of fame right now. And and I I I hope you know, gets a spot the WB hall of fame. He's he's just he's so convinced lake, you know, fast forward to that promo after he wanted to title. If you didn't believe that guy was a it was a champ. And champ that you wanted to see going forward than than than you're missing. What's good about professional wrestling? And Joe needed a to you know, I mean he had been to the top at the challenge for the world, title w title, and and gotten more what is that? What does that one? I know to win. So I mean, I I'm not one of those gold watch type guys, you know. It's just like, you know, Kane gained is. No, it's not what it's just he's he's the best. He's so good. Is believable. I mean, even if it was a one month title reign. I think it would have helped AJ styles as well. I know. The US use titles. No guarantee that you're going to get a push now. But for Joe winning a title, I think was necessary for his characters credibility. And now I mean, yes, it'll probably be able to perso- match. But when I look at the lay of the land, and I really I right now, I'm at a position where there's such an abundance of information on social media, and and and and websites, and pack and stuff. Like, I I want to watch the show. I don't want to know what's going to happen in episode of three of game of thrones. I don't want to know what's going to happen for short wrestlemainia. I, and I also think it's better to judge the product as it airs on TV the way the ninety percent are are are experiencing it, which is not knowing exactly what the plan is where they're going to land. And so through that Lance, and and it's hard it's hard in my position to to to stick to that in. I don't I can't sometimes I have to post boilers or I hear things obviously. But I want to believe that there's a possibility that the most logical match right now for Johnson at wrestlemainia. Komo joe. Yes. And right there with you. And I and I'm not even saying I've inside information. It won't be Johnson that it's going to be some lame bowl type person match that you could just see back. This looks like on television with our truth. Talking about Johnson of the way, he was to redraw attention to the fact that John CENA really did elevate the US title with open challenge. I mean, John CENA was making a statement. It was the end of the fireworks show on the fourth of July where it's a just huge array of just like good matches against a wide array of opponents in a short amount of time and an end people. Remember that in it was a special time for people of that generation and John CENA deserves to be remembered in part for that. He was so good. I mean, you you think back, you know, the five moves to do is just Johnson is all that good. You you watch the those stretch matches. It's just like chomps. He does really good. So I wanna see some moa Joe cut promos for the next month in a way where the next few weeks in a way where it pulls John CENA interested. Nia johnson. And now has a purpose. There's a way for Joe because he's so good on the microphone to to to. You know Johnson is look like Johnson's character right now is this guy who's got this other career, and he's just kind of from a WWE standpoint sort of drifting looking for a purpose looking for a reason undertaker because we should probably have a match will you do it. If you don't well just in the front row and have beers with with with the fans. Joe should should buy a ticket wrestlemainia and have beers on the front row. I think that'd be really good. And then someone go until him the John CENA's there. And then he runs to the back. And then they it'll be real good. I wanna see provost between Johnson. And Joe all your your ways better. I want Joe to be elevated, and yes, Joe is is not thirty. He's fortyish. She's not thirtyish and drew McIntyre would have more to gain from a full-fledged feud with John CENA right now. I'm still holding out for drew McIntyre undertaker, John CENA, smo-, Joe, of course, only undertaker's healthy and feels good about things and all that. But because I think for Drew's character that would be good, but they need to take. These wrestlemainia legacy starts triple h Batista are occupying each other. Nobody's getting a rope from that. That's just what Dave wants to do because he's comfortable and triple h do it can justify triple h being in a match that that gets co top billing at wrestlemainia, and it's fine. I'm not I'm not against it because at day so good, and we'll see how this plays out. Hopefully, AAA stops making saying, my my stuff's real and everything else on the shows fake. I think he needs stay away from that it's utterly selfish. And just plays into the criticism of AAA of the eye rolling aspect of of what is in array of good and bad traits of Paul avec. And I wanna see Joe pulsing N and benefit from it. Joe's got I don't know how many more years left as a top act, but John CENA can transfer give a boost to Joe transfer some of his star power with the wrestlemainia moment that as you laid out Johnny Joe has yet to have he doesn't have that wrestlemainia moment. He deserves it. They've got a history going back to training together in California, they can pull from that the US title. It can be a good match and enjoy is the type of guy who can bring out the best in John CENA on promos. And in the ring, I am making my case for that match. Whether it's planned or not sure no I want to see UP w footage I want. I mean, I I saw I I was I used to go to UP w shows in cal- in California. I lived out there. So you know, I saw the prototype is Saul Samoa Joe, I saw Alcatraz as all these guys. So I'm excited. I would love to see that. I'm scared that you know, or or truth wins wins the Bill back. So it may maybe Zack Ryder's in there too. Well, I okay, we'll take an Email here along those lines. Whatever happened to Mojo rawley. That's that's what Brian Allston wants to know from Phoenix senior people torch, subscriber, whatever the, Motorola, I haven't seen them on Ron a few weeks. I know we're on the road wrestlemainia. But there's at least a couple of minutes to show short videos, who would you match up with the new Mojo rawley? I know I don't want cross brand arbitrary stuff. But but I do fear like we're going to get some weird US title match where they just throw five other guys in there. Just so everyone can have their resume of. It is weird that Mojo just went from getting TV time to not plays into the idea with especially Mo-jo magin. I mean, his Wikipedia page. I haven't read it. But it's got to be like there's a whole section set aside for when mo- Joe was on TV and the disappear three weeks later like you could do like this really long multi paragraph stretch of time line emotional getting getting. A TV time where it looks like it's pushes getting revved up. And then it disappears again. Like, what is going on with this guy? I don't I know it's a sidebar item. But you brought up Zac, right or so everything Mojo, sure. I think I think mode Joe will be one of the final six participants in the Andre the giant memorial battle, Royal good. A we'll take that. That's a five. Joe? I over overly elaborate I want to go back to Josefina for a second to for Joe to be a sort of first ballot. Co headliner hall of Famer someday for WWE because most of his body work, obviously is our wage and impact wrestling and for him to have that WWE resume that that makes you 'cause if like stink can be guy never worked in WB, but he's a first ballot headliner at hall of fame. You know, Joe hasn't had that that level of exposure on the top rated cable show, headlining all he's been in the in the second or third promotion where did most of his good work in his prime years. So to me Tina was no WCW. Let's not for for people that did not watch WCW back in. And it's a TNA is in was never there never close. But Joe's body of work was way, better than stinks like in terms of entering performance, promos all. That. So Joe needs something more than what he's been given so far to be seat to to have that sort of that WBZ hall of fame bullet-point resume item. That says well, yeah, he can go headline headline not headline but being in a US title match against John CENA. This this legacy star generation is is is is one of those moments that can help get him to the level that I think is overall body of work calls for in deserves. That's why hoping whatever's planned that they find a way to make that happen at this point. It's not the only way to yo seen over the only way to use Joe that that works. But I think it's the best way to me. That's my number one pick right now based on what happened on Tuesday. Are they friends is that is that may I mean 'cause you would think we would have seen this match sooner? When when Joe got to WWE. So did something happen back UP w and John's like my work. But I I don't think so. So I mean, I've never heard of anyone having a problem. I mean like like Blake Joe, you know, Joe makes this stuff. Look good. And and you know, if you're if you're there when you you know, what you're gonna get. But I mean at the same time, we after you have a match like, you know, Joe other than the fluke thing would Tyson Kidd, and that was an impromptu match that was together, you know, other other than that, you know, there's no one that that's walked away from that. I'm aware that that's what to going. You know? Joe Joe hurt me when you leave a Matra Joe like I I saw some oh Joe versus Jeff hardy at at a house show, people go man that is one like back in the day used to talk about people go the matches or just like, you know, I know wrestling's all fake and all that. But that that one match that one was real. And Joe we'll give you every single night that match was real it is not a podcast which on a fair place coast. If we don't get him doing the southern accent of dome wrestling fan. We're waiting for that moment. Only the only accent. I the only president. Anyone can do like I fortunately for me on survivor like every season. There's like one hillbilly. I was like, ooh, there's the guy can make fun of. Thank you. Oh, man. Would love you. Yes. All right. Anything else on Joe or sina? No, I I I I enjoyed for the record. I would like Lacey Evans to just I I've I saw her last match in early last house show match inex- tea, and I think she excels it just walk into the ring and turning around. I think she should stop at that. And call it a career just just every week. I'm cool with that. She can go in the wing with Emma. And you know who else I know there's people yelling as I ask this question about the obvious ones. But who got vignettes who what are the rest has got in yet? And it never turned it anything like Billy Jack Haynes way back in the day. Got got a bunch of in and then showed up for you know, couple of shows, and then he was speaking of flakes. He was a flake, and he ended up he's a flake eight doesn't fly. He's and he's one of those guys. Yeah. Now, a big one that I was never aware of. I actually sent. I I have a a wrestling. What's it called thread, a arresting tax group that on Facebook that might my friends, and I exchanged memes and stuff? Frank Anderson Anderson with two S's, I never heard of this guy on eighty three weeks with Eric Bischoff with Conrad Thompson, one of the ask Eric questions was who was Frank Anderson. And and there was like there was a there was a WCW main event trading card of and if you look at it, he's a good looking guy. And and and Eric was like actually this guy was like a Swedish world champion Olympic wrestler. He's a he goes you look at him. The the guy could easily be a world champ. I mean, the guys just the stud and Eric signed him. And when they were just about to bring him on TV, or whatever he was having relationship issues and shows to kind of focus on that note, knowing that, you know, I I don't you haven't worked in professional wrestling that I'm aware of weight. But I just just from what I've I've observed you may have seen something wrestling does not help a relationship in any way ever. I don't think. And so yes, so he chose to which which if that was you know, I think that was the right decision. But I never heard one second of mentioned and the guy has his own WCW trading card. So so Frank Anderson is is my my go-to right now just skulls just because it's fresh on brain. Yes. I have this weird feeling that I saw him on an indie show at one time. Which by or I don't know. Yeah. It brings about that. I saw him at an Indy show. In in in Minnesota. And that might have been were Eric discovered. But I believe he died last year and sixty two ugly. No, I was trying to find out if he worked indie shows because I know I've been there, and I just saw that. Yeah. He died last year. So well, anyway, all right. Okay. Let's let's talk about the shield Reno and get your take on Roman reigns. And what they did within this week. We've got fascinating coming up on Sunday. Tomorrow X WWE creative team member. Matt McCarthy joins me we're going to preview fastlane top to bottom talk about all the all the hype leading into the matches and word to elite wrestlemainia. So be sure to download that show. We're not super heavy on looking at the fast lane lineup right now. But the shield reunion is to set up their match on Sunday, go going against a an assemblage of three top heals. Your take Johnny on what they did with Roman these last two weeks and the way that they had dean agree to come back with the shield leading into Sunday. We'll first of all I want to wish you good luck with namic. Cardi Carthy on your predictions. If you go back and listen to the elimination chamber predictions of podcasts that we did together. I think we got everyone wrong as far as how if guess who would win. How it would happen? We were completely wrong. And then who would win. I think we we did horrible Wade of so so mad at both of us collectively. So please do do good for the team. But but yeah, no the shield. I I I think we're working towards a dean Ambrose Roman reigns. Macha mania. Does that does that? See? Yeah. Yeah. That seems like a very good bad. I don't I'm not saying for sure. But it seems like a good bet. I mean, it's it's better than Roman reigns. Against bearing Corbin. Yes. Yes. The world's toughest bartender. Baron Corbin tip? Your tip your waitress, ignore your bartender. So yeah. No that that's where I see see the reuniting of the shield and the break-up of the shield all happening at the pay per view, or and might not even be it might be an anticlimactic break-up. It might just be dean Ambrose, you know, walking away from ringside when it's time for for the tag. That's true. Yeah. Yeah. I mean dean WWE's decision to announce that dean. Has decided to to not renew with over to be was was an interesting sign of the times. You know? I think there's going to be has this this feeling that. Hey, people aren't social media. You know, they're going to hear this. They're gonna know it. We don't want to be party to looking like we're trying to hide that information from them. And it also adds a little extra zest to Faslane. It is the last chance for the shield a unite in the way that they ought to meaning on a pay per view. So I think it's a good way to tell the story that takes a little of the of the quotes surprise. You know, there's not a lex Luger walking out on nitro moment for dean on eighty w if dean goes to e w I don't know where those greener pastures are that Rene mentioned, but eight UW might be a greener pasture the greater patron. She was referring too much to the chagrin of. Everybody w w he knows what's good for them. Which is to look at Rene and go did you just say that? On raw. So yeah. Yeah. But I also like them referencing that that you know, he's leaving with with Roman reigns. I mean, we add week to a Roman reigns. Talking more naturally to the fans versus the scripted, you know, no suffering succotash lines. You know, of course. But you know, but not, you know, doing the, you know, the big dog says this or whatever, you know, we had him talking. You know? Hey dean, like, you know, we're gonna do this. You know, it's kinda gotta be now. Right. Kind of you know, linked to the crowd in an and I think it says natural moments like that are that are that are endearing Roman more. So than than what what we've grown accustomed to him. You know, do what they tell me to you know, that that garbage. I think it'll be real interesting. If he throws it stupid vest on or at he can wear the best of the ring. But that best bitter come off. That when when the bell rings? But let's let's shift gears and just talk a little bit about that. I just brought them up as regards any end up there. So let let's talk about how valuable you think dean might be two to AWS. I. In his what they're doing with him. If he gets a match against Roman reigns. And whatever scenario the one, you you describe all kinds is is he damaged or are there? She kind of giving a boost to dean by not just having him feud with say nyah Jax or something. But instead have him reunite with the shield turn and however jobs to Roman reigns. Under what circumstances overturns he's back in the top mix. I mean, they're giving him or does it seem like they're less? Scared of dean Ambrose value to AWS by including him in this way. I think Roman came back sooner than they were expecting. They had to do something and the best. Viable option for someone that for it. What makes the most sense? What's the best on paper? I mean, you know, if your options are, you know, Roman reigns. Versus Barron Corbin or Roman reigns. For St. Ambrose Sanchez, dean Ambrose. I don't think they're worried about at at right now. I don't think the word about a W. So I think they're they care more about what's best Roman reigns. What's best Roman? Reigns. Is beating demand Bros. Does does does dean get a huge rub from this? Yes, is is the number one star in WWE according to WB Roman reigns. Yes. So this guy is leaving wrestlemainia with the magic as their number one guy that is a huge get in a huge coup for eighty W. Yes, I am aligned with you on this. I I think they are trying to play nice with dean be respectful to to Rene and also. They don't want to be the bad guys. And I think it's a smart approach Doda Beatles wanted to bad guys when it comes to this. If if they treat dean, well, he's less likely to you know, if shows up in AWB, the guy who rallies the fans behind the brand who didn't treat him like crap. I don't think they care about him. I I think they're just just whatever's fiscally. The best decision for Roman reigns. I think I think it just comes down to that. So as far as eight w specifically goes their their presence right now, they haven't announced the TV deal. Lots of rumors lots of reports. But has everybody says right after that until it's announced there's no TV deal. You know in heck, I thought it was interesting. The pop TV executives said about why impact isn't there anymore because you know, they got a buzz from a certain comedy show that sort of defined the network shits creek that I discovered because of impact wrestling, and I'm grateful to impact wrestling for helping me. Discover pop TV and the shits creek. It's become a big thing. They're doing live live tours at theaters, you know, with the cast and crew odds become kind of thing to do not just for podcasters, but TV cast members who want to earn some extra money and connect with their fans and promote the show. We'll pop TV didn't think impact wrestling was congruent with the theme of their network in pop TV wanted a certain vibe to the network when people tuned in if they they they in that was the re, and that's the reason don't stub you got cancelled. I mean, Jamie Kellner the program executive said TNT one has they wanted to be high brow dramas, and they wanted to sell that to advertisers. And they wanted viewers to be able to just hit channel whatever on cable. For me forty-seven. I remember it and hit enter you're going to get a certain vibe or feel just like you do when you turn on Turner classic movies or ESPN, and it didn't fit. And and and I understand that you know, that was that was I mean, it didn't had WW not been losing millions of dollars and had rating stove in strong. I don't think they would have been canceled. I think TNT would gritted their teeth dot, but with diminishing ratings and tons of losses under the corporate umbrella it made it easier to make that call. So the advertising department didn't have to sell the two separate sets of advertisers and try to attract two different sets of fans. So all that said, I think the numbers had maintained I think it would have found itself on TBS, not GMT. I think that's a very viable course that that would have been taken with salt everything. So with that said, we have we have the classic example TNT and Jamie Kellner, we have the recent statement from the pop TV programming executive. I worry a little bit. When I hear that about eighty w but at the same time there, isn't irreverence. I mean being the only the latest episode posted earlier this week over hundred forty thousand views in the title of it is filler episode. At the end of the episode is Matt Nick Jackson sitting poolside, and they're just like. Yeah. That kind of sought ta and the Nick. Yeah. Like, we really we haven't been wrestling. And so I really didn't have a lot of footage to like put together to make the episode this week, but here's the room. Here's our mortgage. So, you know, this is what they call in an television. A filler episode is and and and and mad cycle that sucks. He has will at least let's do like a big nouncement or something a makeup more like, okay. It's they're like, hey, our next live show. We're going to be at the so-and-so amphitheater and Jacksonville tickets go on sale soon. Because they didn't like like there was Cody and and brandy at at at some like, I think they're at a hockey game or something, and there is a sensory room at the at the hike, and they're just like, hey, you know, for people to have problems with stress and all that, you know, they have a sensory room here, and this company, they're going to be double or nothing in Vegas to make sure there's an I like that's great for people that that can appreciate that. I'm sitting there going I like, I am I really watching forty five seconds of our sensory room right now. Because my senses are telling me that I hate the last forty five seconds on my life. So. So, but when I look at the filler episode hundred forty thousand views, they recently topped out with their double or nothing ticket announcement party at almost a half a million views right now, I'm staring at four hundred seventy three thousand on their tally the press conference earlier actually was five hundred over five hundred fifty thousand views for the initial press conference. So. This. That's a lot of people now. Yes, now, you mentioned the term quirky in in and unique to to themselves like like on the quote unquote filler episode, they they they didn't unbalancing the young bucks of their L J N figures. So like, you know, when when you and I were kids, you know, I don't know how many you had I can tell you. I had a King Kong Bundy won the big Grobbelaar. You know, not. The worst playable action figures possibly ever in the history of action figures, they are re that the company's L J N they've re launched a series of exhibitions the first ones out or the young bucks. They're huge. They're heavy and the unblocks end the packaging looks just like the old nineteen eighty five LG and packaging for the superstars figures and how cool like they they know they're like go to a hot top. There's there's there's cool stuff. You know? The Jean jacket pins. There's the patches there's the t shirts and look better than you know, than any WB t shirt, they know what they're doing. They know their audience, and there's a cool network. I mean, I still suggests CW I think it's the perfect fit you walk into a hot topic. You see stuff Riverdale? He sees subs for the flashy stuff for aero. Bam. There's there's the elite stuff right beside it. That's my personal pick. You know, people are saying Turner, and and and and and Showtime rates peo-, those make sense to, but I as far as a neat niche fit. I think nothing is better than CW personally. Interesting. Yep. I in. So that does nicely get to the point that I was making two or heading towards two which is there. This isn't WCW at the end where you're watching it. And you're like who's watching this. It's crap. It's embarrassing. It doesn't know what it is anymore. It's bad cliches bad booking lame characters. Poor diminishing production values WW is really bad at the beat being the elite is irreverent. It's it's whatever the word for cool hip and trendy is that I don't even know. That's what it is like, and there's a small window. I mean, the Cody and the bucks and Kenny are in their thirties. They're going to be in their forties. And there's gonna soon and there's going to be people who look at them. And are like, oh, I don't know. You know, they get the triple h syndrome where are you trying to be cool. But your dad who's trying to be cool, and you're trying too hard and everyone's rolling their eyes. This is their window though. And I think they're savvy and smart enough to and we'll see if this takes off no pay attention to the next trend, and and be able to have the next generation of cool people in our efforts. But they absolutely they have the the bullet-point resume to go to a network and say, we're not going to embarrass you. And when people tune in they're going to get the sense that they're watching something that that has an audience that gets what they are in his passionately for them. And there's things I don't wanna watch on TV. But if I turn it on I can tell or if there's a YouTube show, I can tell you know, what this isn't for me. And I don't really get it. But I can tell it absolutely is filling a niche in people are passionate about it a half a million people are watching on YouTube. These shows that's not enough to sustain a top level TV weekly wrestling series. But it's not a wrestling show with wrestlers. And we know that wrestling shows with wrestler's wrestling, always do better than talk shows or recap shows or documentaries WB network. It's that way. So there's an incredible base audience here that they can build on. But they are topping out at half a million. So you can say that as a positive, and I've heard that's been and you can also say it as a negative. I think it's also spin that hey, that is how many people. They have. And if you know, but I do at this. That's how many people they're bringing to the table initially. I mean, I think I like there's plenty of people that watch WBZ each and every week. I mean, you know, where we at right now on average on on a Monday night. Raleigh three million. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That's a fair. Okay. There. I would say this, right? Two million people that have never heard the words Kenny omega put together. That's what I was about to say, John. We knew jumped in Saturday's how show in Minneapolis during her mission went up to pretty much exclusively guys in line to buy beer and hot dogs and nachos. And I wanted to find out, you know, I didn't bug families or women in the blind for the restroom. So did you go into the women's wrestling? I didn't even know I tell you. There the women's wealth room. All right. Mark. I have a captive audience waiting for beer. And so I just went up to about fifty people there innovation and I'm like, I'm taking an informal survey. And people looked at me like who the effort you? I'm about to punch you get onto my face. And I've continued this is this Susan G Komen. All right, Mark, Fred at number two. So in journalism, I went to. Internet, a TV news station in college in Detroit when I had to sign the tied to go like ask people on the street questions. Like why I sort of got over being scared of doing that. So I met a wrestling show, and I'm walking up to people and asking them, and they're gonna the look like have you heard of Kenny O mega in the young bucks all asked and fewer than half. But more than a third said. Yes, they did. And they were generally excited. Like, you've just said magic words now. Yeah. But but I don't think I got ever to win a row who said, yes. And but what would happen is someone would say, yes. And then at us nesper salon and they'd say, no. And I'd say, hey, you need to talk in that I walk away. And then I start new friendships reform. So right now, there's a lot of people who go to WB house show. And there's a lot of people who who aren't w they don't wanna go to wwl show because they kind of know what they are. They're Disney on ice for families. But among the guys who went to this house show, it was less than half with a decent but not scientific sample size. And obviously there's a ton of people who are families and more casual fans who who the percentage would be much lower. There is an audience for what Awa does. But is it the size of what does it include the demographic that WWE draws the families with the kids who want the championship belt and they're holding the new day sign, and they're sad that WWE cavalierly in fraudulently advertised Kofi Kingston, then pull them from the show and didn't apologize. I have to get that dig in again. How how many of those fans are going to be into what the bucks in Kenya mega are doing. And how important is that to have a large mainstream audience on the flipside how big is audience as we saw during the Monday night war era. Of those guys who were still willing to go to W how show how many of them aren't in. How many of them have tuned out raw? How many of them are listening to us talk about Robert don't really want us to through and watch it anymore. How many of those people are waiting there there? There this connect. There's this Connecticut stored up fandom that's just waiting for a product that speaks to them in a way that the scripted corporate sterile WWE the aspects of that product, it doesn't appeal to them. And how many of them are just going to show up and make a w. The proverbial overnight success. I think that's possible too. And nobody knows for sure, but we might be about to find out. But I I think a half a million people watching a launch party on YouTube is encouraging. But it's not it doesn't confirm it's encouraging. But it doesn't confirm that there can draw two to three million people on cable over over short span of time. I think some of those labs fans. This this this is for them. And I think the kids that have never heard of it. I think that that's where elite takes off because if you if you pay attention, they they're making the cool stuff that you wanna buy. I mean, I like I go to a w w you know, how show or or whatever. And I'm just like, I'm just like what shirt do I like, I want to get a shirt just to get a shirt, and I sit there standards late, which one would I wear one. I mean, like like, I don't even want a shirt like just like, you know, I'm not going. I gotta have that. There's not one shirt there about about, you know, about the man shirt in Rebecca Lynn's, but other than that. That's it. You know that that took forever. So but the the young box and Kenya. Megan Cody Rhodes, the bullet club's stuff. They know how to make cool stuff that you wanna buy you. Go. Like, I I could imagine going to one or just watch on TV and go into the websites. Just like I won't that shirt. So I own right now, I probably have in my closet. I think I have four bullet club shirts. Wade because they're cool. And they want you to buy the new shirts in the latest shirts, and they get away with you know, they're good at doing for the twenty thirty forty year old largely male. But there's absolutely FEMA women who who know to demographic what kind of t-shirt they want to produce to get them to wear John CENA was a merchandise hor with the changing color scheme. But it was smart. You know, I mean, it's every three months, there's a new color scheme. It's a new season. You know, don't don't wear why green after Labor Day, it's time for orange Johnson CENA merchandise, and and he did that really well and the bucks in Kenny in Cody in their own way understand that. So we could do three hours on on AWS. There's a lot to be learned. And and a lot of the journey. Is in a way, just beginning. But the idea of just put a filler episode out there, and they're you know, they've already got although actually in terms of subscribing there at three hundred twenty thousand subscribers on YouTube. So when they have five hundred thousand people who haven't subscribed who are watching it through various websites or stumbling upon it or seeking it out who choose not to subscribe. But it's going to be. I mean, wherever this goes, it's going to be a really fun story this year and so much focus right now is in wrestlemania weekend are away with their anniversary show coming up and then the show with new Japan. And then we have annexed takeover with a big twist with champ injury. And then, of course, wrestlemainia it is it's going to be a a fun month or so here, but then a lot of the focus is going to shift to to to what's going on with eighty w when it kind of becomes eight e w season. It's time to step up and show what they're going to be. There you go. Anything else on on your radar? Anything else jump out? I know you watch the antics t show from this past week. I was just this isn't like a headline item. But Keithly Dominic digest Ovik are our two wrestlers. I think who have a chance to be main roster impact players under Vince McMahon. And who who do you like more like who do you not like, I mean that in the other sense of who who do you think is a better chance to catch them and took man's I and be successfully promoted I saw those two in a fifteen minute match at at the house show in Durham and with with Keithly winning. When the match started and throughout the match, I kept telling myself. Wow, Kenny Dykstra got young. I mean, that's all I see is is a new Kenny Dykstra. And I and I think that's what businessman is going to see a new Kenny Dykstra. I don't be like the first one. I don't think he did. I don't remember can you dykes for winning the world title at any time in his career. I see Keith Lee. And I see junkyard dog two thousand twenty and I think is gonna fall in love with him. And he should I think the guys got the personalities got the strength. He's got the agility. He's he is a fun fun character. And I I you know, when I was a kid I like the bad guys. But you know, even like in the bad guys, I still love junkyard dog. And there's something special. There was a connection there. And I think he's Lee has an and and if you know, if visit Bank and Hornets that or triple h I think there's so much money on the table. And I think they're going to cash in on it. All right. Anything else from exte- that jumped out to you. No. I mean, I I I didn't know about Sean of being hurt so excited about DIY and win. It does rose term. I don't even like because I stay away from spoilers to. And so now, you kind of hurt my feelings to start the podcast. Well, enjoy enjoy what you're watching the next few weeks of television. And and set aside that isn't gonna lead to. Whatever they were planning for champion Gargano in such shayna Baseler. I will ask you about her with Rhonda Rousey taking on her doing what she did on Monday. I think it does it leads really nicely into a post possible, Shane Abass or call up and the four horse women there's been some references to it that have been sprinkled in and they could do something. But I don't know if how is the lay of the land for if it is the four horse women who what four women do they or do they have two to four. When like, I don't think they have to have a foreign four-match. You could just have the four horse women feud with two of them with the tag team and one was someone else in one of them was someone else. And also with Ron it does take time off for pregnancy. Now, you're down to three but Rhonda gives the rub to shayna holds kind of holds up position. Until everybody hopes Rhonda comes back in a year, or so I do I think this gets strung out. I think I think Rhonda hangs around all summer slam. I think summer slam we get. Get the four horse women versus the four horse women. And you know, if it's a one time makeup deal with Charlotte as as as a as, you know, working with them for the night. Great. And if not you you you replace Charlotte with Oscar for the night. Yeah. Yep. That can work I can work. I think Shane is Scott. I I think she has got chance to be huge. And I I'd like Shane get a rub from being paired with Rhonda before Rana goes away if that indeed ends up being her plan. And I mean, you brought to control your mind that was not a declaration Rhonda mate. It was it was something that she, you know, react to in a weird way. You know, it's like, well, you've talked very openly on YouTube about your plans to have a family. And now dare people talk about your step family is very quirky of her. I wanna get I'm real real quick. I'm cool with it being like, whatever the pay per view as after wrestlemainia. I mean, like, you know, if she can make it three more weeks, and then do the full horsewoman versus the I mean like right and in the world of of of the WB network and no long. Anger, quote, unquote, paper views, it doesn't have to be one of the big four for it to be a big deal. I agree. Yup. I here's an Email question from Scott beuller wrestlemainia thirty we witnessed one of the most shocking events at wrestlemainia when Brock listener defeated and ended undertaker's winning streak, by the way. It's really fun listening back to Jason poplin. I on these weekend vertical flashbacks. Yeah. Yeah. We're talking about undertaker Brock, and what what what jumped out to you. John. Well, you're Boyce's are like did you guys finally hit puberty like four years ago? What happened technology upgrades there? He got there yet. So it's real. I mean, it's just the. It's one of those deals where the the more things change, the more the more. They stay the same. It's it's it's it's that tight every every time. I listen to any of the the flash back episodes. I just love it. It's just like oh my God. Like, it's you know, tr- triple h will always be triple h. I know it's like whatever flashback if he's in the news. It's like some of the same things like he's like, let us down again with that just unnecessary stroking of his own ego is something that undercuts others. But. Brawlers? But otherwise, but otherwise he was really good it. It's like like it was a really good except he had to undercut other people needlessly in order to put himself over. What'd you say? John. Slashes smashmouth brawlers. Yes. That's exactly okay. So Scott says if the momentum wrestlemainia is triple threat with Becky, Charlotte and Rhonda N, Charlotte Windsor women's title where would this rank in shocking moments? Meaning and are you ready? Are you ready Johnny stepping on the plug here? So where would this? I wanna hit your viewpoint where would this rank and shocking moments at mania and ready? Are you ready? Go VIP Scott really wanted to get that any put it in all castes, so PW torch, VIP info dot com, Johnny if Charlotte wins. It's not a shocking moment. Undertaker? I mean, people be surprised, but I wouldn't rank it anywhere close to to the stricken. No. I think I I mean think about the bad wrestlemainia finishes that we've seen. I I can't remember melt-up. But you know, like probably four of the last five years, you'll I, you know, is that isn't maybe my memory serving me wrong. But it hasn't wrestlemainia for last five ended in said, it would just be one of those. Yep. Which which is you know, you think about how hot Becky Lynch is the comparisons to stone cold Steve Austin? You know, this this home grown, you know, this this cultivated by the people thing that's so hot and this should. Be you know, the beginning of sending this this this comment into orbit. And and then, you know, just imagine if they had had, you know, stone cold lose at what wrestlemainia fifteen. Yeah. Like your answer county play. That's exactly how it would be with with starlet. Charlotte's great. She she's an amazing. He'll you really see her coming into her own every second of every week. This is the role. She should be in this all times until she's sixty you know, and then, you know, she comes out and waves, and you, you know, you politely applaud, but you know, it till then she's a he'll so, but no I mean like said it's just as white hot baby face. And it's just like an and this is, you know, this isn't pass lane. This isn't elimination chamber. This is wrestlemainia. There's there's one night and with in which you end the fairytale what they happy ending. Ooh. Just like a fart in church weighed it just it will not go over well with the Charlotte Charlotte player victory. So we most very meals are about Becky, Charlotte. I'm Rhonda is as you know. I mean, it's like in our Seth are seven Brock even on resume wrestlemainia. I mean, good luck getting in Roman reigns. Coming in and casting a big shadow over over Seth. Yeah. I mean, it's it's this this wrestlemanias about the women and WB can't screw it. They can. But they ought not screwed up. All right. So Aaron from North Carolina and Marcus Email. I just wanted to note that during and after rod is beat down Becky Becky smile through it all in addition Rhonda put Becky in an bar three different times. And Becky never tapped. She sold the pain, but you never tapped what a bad ass. Her most recent tweet was that that's the Rana. She wants to beat at wrestlemainia. I'm in my feet today. But I am out of my out of your head Rhonda along with a gif of herself smiling being checked on is there a chance Becky pins or submits Rhonda wrestlemainia clean? Thanks again. For all the great content. The podcast make much stressful office job fly by Gobi, IP, PW, torch, VIP info dot com. I do think there's a chance Becky pins round clean. I know that this whole thing about a triple threat is well, it's so run up to do a job echo, Charlotte. And that everybody's happy. We protect Rhonda but Becky gets the win. So everybody's happy. People aren't going to be happy. If Becky pinola people want to see Becky beat Rhonda now that Rhonda's turned heel. It's open her up to lose. To make a loss more likely to try. No, the only says factory outcome for for that match is. I at at this point thinking about the finish of the match. I think the Bill would be better with just the two. But, but I, but the actual match the finish of the match with with with near falls short costing them or Charlotte possibly being an earful. I think the last four minutes that matches better with a as a three way than than a two way. If you get the. An outcome. Other than Becky eventually pinning Ronda Rousey, like all these all these near falls. It look like it's going to you know, what cop-out finish that should be it. But it, but, but, but you know, the person kicks out or someone saves them like like, those those will work to make that ultimate ending of Becky, you know, tapping out Rondo or pinning Rhonda that much better. I think the last four minutes that match or even better as three way with that as long as the finish is what it should be. Yes. Another Email from Chandler from Indianapolis. We just talked about this. But he has this with Rhonda Rousey seemingly turning ill at the end of Ron Monday. Do you think the finish of the wrestlemainia triple threat could involve interference or a post-match run in from Shane obeys? Lauren company to beat down Becky in Charlotte with Sasha and Bailey making the safe to ignite the long awaited horse women feud. The if the who've been get involved in either fastlane or the wrestlemainia match is that a plus because it's a high profile situation really sparked sings or is it a negative in that you just don't add anything to them if you don't need if it's Austin versus rock or or seen overseas rock or HOGAN against Andrei just keep it keep it or Ganic. You don't need to do all that other stuff night after mania not one second before. Yeah. Yup. I'm I'm with you on that one. I wouldn't rule it out though. But but. All right. Do want to note that access speaking of women excess TV just announced they renewed women of wrestling for a second season. Twenty four new episodes were ordered with an early fall premiere so women's wrestling continuing to that's great news because it's going to play some more women and provide more women wrestling content and access TV shows a continued commitment to m to me possibly Jonny fairplay. Yes. Yes. So yeah. We'll Johnny anything else. 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The GearHeads Go to War

The Kirk Minihane Show

2:18:05 hr | 1 year ago

The GearHeads Go to War

"Actually start with this video. Play this morning because the the the fucking thing of Boston because it is. It's unbelievable. I I've watched twenty times. Seems like people agree me? You're right well we've talked it raises. I mean at least two dozen question but yeah I mean even more after talking with with Mike earlier before the show. What that's right lead the more questions sources. Hell yes aren glow you know. Basketball's show Yanks baseball team new new segment to start the show live review. Mike Shit every day gusty sick again day with writing in Mike was like now. There's there's no. There's nowhere in Boston where people are doing this stuff members. No he was surprised you you you were describing the video and he was like no can't be. That can't be what you're looking at. That's not I still to get your Dick kicked in on Saturday. Fuck HEAD. This is the real. Rei and talking right again. I'm playing on Saturday. Yes not you. But whoever I'm competing who who's going to be drinking for me well I Mike Desi Mike in the middle of the fucking mess and Boston. I seem drunk wandering around. You could see the tracks on his army building. I think I should host show shooting writing just US Cup. Dj Hubbard. Can Somebody please photoshop into that video dollars? Mike an every person that I like this Mike Woodward oh well I was. I was speaking to some some people that I know. Say You have to say law enforcement sources law enforcement sources guy. You gotta figure out the Lingo. If you'RE GONNA be probing forces sources you mean someone who has been arrested by law. I'm just asking a question. Incarcerated Delaware heads it though he might be our informant is fucking lizard. That'd be Stepbrother who got the kids who doesn't pay for poor guy? Why has no children a nice man like I got this fucking? I met two one away. I was way what you showed me. Got One of those Tenth is free abortion clinic cards one more to go. I don't know that should be a heinous rewards program lets free you really want to incentivize that kind of well you never know. Well the one party might so go ahead. It's okay honey. I got a free one. Love a friend of Johnny Law he goes. I found the hospitality spots hospital and I said Yeah. It doesn't look like you guys are doing doing job because he s to be in that area. Sometimes it goes. I don't I mean let's be honest like I know it's their job. I don't know if I was. Yeah right I mean it'd be like I'd tell Marty Walsh fuck you like so of course. No one's no sorry. No mainstream media reported that since we have So far I haven't seen anything nothing. Of course. Not It should be shame on the globe and the Herald and all these. It should be the lead story. Must say because it's our guys and I'm not GonNa say who filmed it might have been me. Who knows the poises my show. It's my property right. This should be the lead story on every news broadcast in fucking Boston saying before. It has more views on our twitter than it'll get then would get on a local news anyway just saying no. I want to watch. I'll just say these people you know. Do Your job that you know this is going on in Boston. I looked at thirty seconds. Pause it I mean there were those read. The you put the Neal's Buchan spos- biohazard disposable their sharp. Yeah like these guys are doing. Their drugs could be a population people who were like Mike Diabetes to insulin needles people anyway. I guarantee that there's some liberal liberal city councillor making that point on the question but I mean but this is going again. I'm going to stress. I'll probably say twenty times. We're talking about this. I feel these people being used like. They're being fucking. It's embarrassing but Marty Walsh not. I don't know who the I want each fucking council person on each fucking Person from the district is ten percent fucking answers. This is going on in Boston. These people are if you watch it. It's so fucking. I feel horrendous for these people's fucking disgusting. There's no masks. And then they just roam again the public a comeback in normally. I'd be horrified by it but W so now not just because his coronavirus going but because this asshole is waving his fucking finger at me and the people of Boston and telling them he tweeted out today. Fucking bike routes right bike safely. It was it was the initiative called the one. I re Tweet Quasi Alpar Marty Walsh folks as unbelievable. It's healthy stealthy streets. Today this idiot tweets out today. I can also share our new steps to improve health and safety and public place. It's a package of changes. We're calling hashtag healthy streets HASHTAG. Are you bike bike in in in walk in the same way and you run in the same way and it's just it's it's unbelievable out all the people twee ever are August because I but you know this is. I don't know how far from where Marty's hold tweeting this old thing you have this going on which you're pretending doesn't exist so the site is so much worse than is in cash because it radiates out around from there. It's probably I would say a quarter of a mile from the South Bay mall that area where there's a target and a home depot and everything and you can just see people like walking away into it and they're like little mini camps setup. All around it. And it's like no one has masks on the people. Some pulled down a further away from each other again. If Marty Walsh said fuck it flew flew. I'd say finally better place for these people like the center will just totally empty now. But you know instead. It's like he just doesn't care about these disposing them. He doesn't care if they die if they spread to other people. Walking Callas asshole and a weird way. They've made people afraid of going to like parks and shit like that. There's there's places like treating this read. They don't exist missing it is. He mentioned this. I've never heard mentioned anywhere. I think he he. He has talked about this in the context of taking care of people experiencing homelessness. Just saying we're setting up conference centers where they can get food to nothing about. The judge will continue the video with a laughing right Middle Finger. True false some random. The Fan with a phone is done more work on this than all. The other journalists in the city put together. Correct okay I mean you know and also while you're second will you do. I fact checked. Who told you to do that? You didn't okay so the three of us right great where. The team dispatched me out to go hunt for an open. Air Drug market cranked down time. I told you up with the crazy Steve. Some hit the gas wind up in the middle of there just like was living there now. He's working cover. It'd be great flying through the windshield. Landed in a pile of Fennel. The needle skis here. I need a taste of this told him. I told him Gourmet Burgers Bruce. They don't get any gets. That's you'll man. I didn't write that book saying the Fucker but it's it's it's I get enraged because I hate Marty Walsh. I hate fucking hypocrisy like that. It's fucking bananas. I look at it and I'm like this is the fucking grossest thing I've ever seen these poor fucking people and and he will be asked tomorrow no fucking way. No Way I saw. There's they've got a ambulance parked right there with two. Emt's in it kind of looking the other way and there was a guy walking along and it was very very obvious that he was trying to buy drugs from the cars moving by so I think there are probably cars delivering heroin or federal or whatever right to that site and the EMT's are just hanging out you know within anarchy waiting for somebody to od and there's like maybe one police officer within one hundred yards of that area. They're not. They're not doing anything. What I miss it if I Mari Walsh on here if he came on the show and asked him about this would say. Don't be a wise Guy Yeah I mean harm reduction. At least at least at least they're not in some Flight Martha Mardi. They masks on in our they prisoners. Can they leave? Do they leave. You had any idea. Mcdonald's You Know Again. One hundred hundred yards. I'm presumably that's open. There's a a home depot target. There's all those places around the house going to me. I think people probably get might get some drugs to some. I'm just I'm just spitballing here. Me Guess in this idiot. It's just it's crazy. I cannot believe there is no no. I guess I get naive sometimes. Remember though. You're no no no churches in Somerville and you be at twenty five percent capacity. If you're in like you know Berkshire now and again if you wanna be a hard ass all the way fine of May disagree with you. Believe consistent September fourteenth. I forget what the number be thousands and thousands of people who are all shape where. We went to run outside for twenty six miles from Hopkinton to Boston the Boston Marathon. I'M RUN IT Marty Walsh Today on. May Twenty eighth so that's not going to happen. Canceled it right first of all forget. I don't know I. I don't know why the BA or whoever wouldn't say right we'll start in Hopkinton this year. We're going to end in fucking wherever we're going to end and the other way we're GONNA go run toward wooster the guy on the why these off okay. There's the Stahl Joe to doing. The real red rather do that than not run. The ratio all trained for Worcester is kind of like that Little Area. We filmed only okay. You can go efficient Lexington you can finish in Burlington whatever who cares going fish the south shore this guy the finish line the marathon to where you were today. Steve is what I would say. Well that was two miles. Maybe this guy is telling people who are on shape That they can't run outside and by the way you could. You could do this. Because he's thinking 'cause he's stupid he has never fucking brain his head. He's thinking you know is going to be a big thing packed at the beginning. This year can be different. You can say they're going to be crowds. You cannot go and watch in the first runners start at five. Am in every hour until four PM. We're going to send X. amount of people out yeah. It's pretty simple. It's over two days over to. You could definitely do Thanh you over twenty four hours. The sucks is a weird timeshare. You're running at one. Am Time Call Weird things and people runners a crazy? I'd do it fun so you run at one. Am and you finish. And so people run eleven PM and some people run at noon. It's not that difficult at all and by the way you could start them in different points in different fucking creative about this but instead canceled canceled canceled however a mile and a half away we have these people spreading shit all over each other dirt filth. By the way. Who's picking the curiosity? I would say Boston city employees. Okay that's great. That's fantastic. Say for them. The anybody talk to them. No I guided. I just don't get it right. I just don't get it all I called Marty. Walsh's press office today and said you can can marty talk with us about this. The answer some questions video raises a number of questions right and I not heard back. I find I find it hard to believe. So you're giving. I think you're going kind of easy on Charlie Baker only because of course absolutely he's offering little five. Boston is treated like it is different. It's almost like de Blasios. Just it's just a big city like they're sort of they're almost equal Massachusetts. Cuomo talking about fucking Manhattan. You know but it doesn't really for into Blasios kind of runs that though too at the same time. You're right you're right. He's a governor of the state and because he's been he's been even stricter than he's been really fucking. He barely wanted to open up now. He could send the state police into abolish that open air drug market if he wanted to and has not any second now nothing video. Someone tweeted Hubby rental bikes. All over the place. Who's cleaning those? Nobody we're nobody those guys leaving those things. That's what I'm saying so back into a charge station. I mean that's what I mean. It's fucking madness not to mention the like the presence of is the amount of fat know that you can overdose on is miniscule like a salt shaker. A Salt Shaker. I don't get it. I don't I don't understand it and I don't know what like I have tremendous. I really do. I fucking tremendous sympathy for these people who a lot of them. I think are addicted love at mental illness. You know in their in tough situations in this is the solution to put them essentially in a prison but let them go spread stuff around to people who are scared because Marty. Walsh has helped. Make him scared by these rules. The people are trying to follow like I. I can't go into a bookstore. I can't go inside a restaurant I can't go. I can't go run in the gym but these guys can go like what I bet. The farmers markets are GONNA BE CLOSED THIS YEAR. To you can't you can't see. Jp can go walk into a parking lot and by some fucking and carrots but could walk down to the intersection of Melania cast and massive and pick up some milk and in front of cops right with people wearing masks who away from each other. I mean even even without even without virus. This is a crazy saying insane. I'm trying to get. I'm trying to remove the normalcy normally. Cause that's crazy its own. This is tripling because again. You're a state where the guy is keeping you home keeping out of your jobs costing people. Their businesses in this asshole is letting this happen and they're not reporting it. Because I'm talking about it fucking crazy or you're just not curative. Cock you really is such a dummy they show up like laughable they show up like lapdogs to Marty Walsh's press avail. He says we've got these comfort centers set up to take our homeless people. That's all they hear. They print it carried on the newspaper. Marty Walsh taking care of homeless. They never fucking look beyond that. I know everybody in the city pays attention to me. I'm a Thanksgiving asshole. But I know I know. News reporters producers they. Everyone seen this video no question in my mind and they're not GONNA reported they. They could replicate this in an hour. They should be. They could drive down there with the video cameras boom done when I was when I was a kid in newspapers aren't important. I understand that but this is great. A Boston Herald front page picture right there. Oh Yeah I mean I. You've heard about the Herald in but you want to say whatever like pick your pick your a you know. We haven't got an email or a phone call from anybody saying would you let us use. That was like yeah but you have to call it. A Kirkman hand exclusive DICTA. Even around the lake of the ozarks video was what one day on holiday and everyone freaked out a bright. This is happening. How awesome for how long. Because those people are Hicks from the Midwest and then we can mock with his reasons why we can mock those people and we can't mock other people. I see a diverse crowd there. So do I so do? I became a homeless and mental illness. And I get that again. I think people are gonNA I some people assholes this to me misconstrued this in the me criticizing them. I'm actually not let's not. I don't think that would be a fair. Okay thanks you won't happen then I didn't really But but it's but that's not all my issues with my only issues with Walsh and St. Mike's try to alert to a Baker who allowing this to happen and I'm guessing if I'm guessing is not the only place in Massachusetts. This is happening. Probably not the only place in Boston. Probably not I was GONNA say how the Worcester Springfield shore I mean. I don't know I mean there's a lot of issues down Cape Cod which I don't know what's going on there but then just call Scott while he's you may be at one video. He was calling a heroin broadcast but he did the best call name doing a terrible job. That's good so fuck you. I'm a drug method poverty in the seven a bad day. That's math and PAS say but I mean I I know I get I get locked into stuff but I always say this is am I wrong. Is this fucking crazy? It's just absolute madness. I feel bad but it's been going on for since before corona virus but this is like this is the I guess the the paradox exempt. This is the paradox of feel good liberalism trying to help people sure but I mean and I saw some a small minority. Like what do you want to do what he wants them to do? It's not that difficult I mean you. Can you can house these people in a way that. It's not fucking a dangerous and be mortifying to them. You said at the Convention Center. Just say anybody anybody. You WANNA volunteer to go to the Convention Center and get addiction treatment. Let's go we're already spending billions and billions and billions of dollars on the shit. Why can't we spend someone? Addiction is going on there now already but just fill the place. I mean. It's there and it's mostly. I think most will find out mostly empty. Oh they say they're not accepting new coronavirus patients now. They're all going into existing medical we to. Who's who can we talk to not Mayor Walsh lineup? Somebody's nobis talk to us. I ask for Marty Walsh or any representative of town hall so city all in. No one's no responded. No fucking believable fucking unbelievable. I think I think it's fair to to ask does number try again? Senator Senator Warren German senator market. What do you guys think about this? I mean I guess. I'm sure the answer Ed Markey Buccaneer Gilbride on. He'll come on with Marty. Walsh forgiving. You know grease skids. Yeah so last called Karen plead. Oh I don't think we I don't think our voice mail said Karen did it. Oh did it not not to my not carol or something else. Give the shut. Maybe some of the as an opinion on the issue anyway. Sh- ma'am crazy who you might get Minnesota burning down the Jesus. Christ thing is Commander in chief priorities are on very well. I heard it all about it today. I just don't have a great take on that. I feel like this to me is more interesting because I have an opinion that one wooding say that like an asshole and people whom do they say? They charged with murder in the player in a and losing a stupid like. I don't know I don't have a great. You know I mean the the response is bad the original crime. I think I mean they're right to be pissed off because the criminal justice system is moving away to the normal people who like like stuff like this out Sharpton and Colin Kaepernick maxine. Waters Michael Row. The Arts are doing. They're fucking stupid stuff. So I mean I like this one. That's kind of other people. Can I don't know I don't know what to say? Come on Karen Carol. Kp and his Carol Laura her phone either. So did we just find a random woman? Who's one name no the address? The address is Shrewsbury what's your home fall. No the address associated with that number. You Know Marty wash his phone number. Let's get his address at dinner with the guy. One time. Steve Always Nice to me. I love you now. We HAVE MARK number Steve. Yeah have it one looking at up? This is exciting. Credible your Steve. You'll talk to show of a good take on this show. You WanNa talk about the tallies gets my face that one time. He's trying to be tough guy. Going what do you say? Let's talk off camera music. What you problems your problems. I try to act like I'm some fucking doing idiot. You and Marc Moreau so doing some good journalist right good point also also there that day. Yeah it's a damn good up absolutely deleting the audio I saw four court morose statement ran into him in a restaurant. Barrosa would have run right in there to get the no question weight loss dog. Almost he's eat one needle. He's almost like he wouldn't even get. It wouldn't even be able to get layer of shit like inside his body. Kurt viruses hits. Yeah you would actually cure it. It's almost like the all the cameras on him. Go Away all right. I got a number I believe is Marty's the mayor of Boston. Martin Walsh Not a human source helpful. Right is close to the point where the only ones who who are gonNA report this talked to Karen who e C e Sic Keys Casey key so maybe Casey Smith fellow we call her take auditor and Marty Walsh on. Cami looks bad me. Today would be on. Elected officials probably bribes. Everybody to win anyway right. The election isn't serious. Trust this guy. That's true well you know. He's taken on. He's he's GonNa run a press conference tomorrow. He'll announce his new initiatives and the people sit there and be like what do you say? Let's say the people out there who you know in naive about. This'll be the normal dumb questions and he'll be like what do you say about the rumors floating around on social media that there an open air market. Go to these. I can't I can't do it. I might. I might giving something. Well you never know but also it's just it's dozer difficult or what did that guy like this guy shattuck or something like that where the fuck away hands their mouth. I guess Montani it's it's it's more controlled. Now that's the thing. I could slyke access very role. And now that they can use the virus as a pretext to limit. Who's allowed in and who can ask questions. It's absurd I mean I I just I do think about the guy who's lost his fucking jobbers lost business in Boston. Some guy who owns whatever story you to call it and fucking Marty. Walsh is letting this happen two miles away and just saying fuck you in the ASS paying. Marty Walsh is stupid fucking salary I mean. What do you think incentivized this Who Go there and record that film Z. I'm sure it is stupid. Fucking girlfriend lining her dumb pockets. Laurie Higgins even pick up her phone. Yeah Laurie Higgins may ever number two. I'm saying maybe that was her. I don't know could could be. Just sit there and Fuck Marty Walsh. Charlie Baker stuck in unbelievable if they're waiting till marriage who knows it could be. I don't know Marty Walsh Kim but I mean it's just it's just it's I I don't know and we'll see I mean we'll see if anything comes of this. I don't know if there'll be a larger platform at seen. Steve who knows it could be you think so. No Yeah I don't know we'll find out in hours. Oh don't find out who knows this. I know about simply safe. I will say that simply safe was designed to be easy to use while protecting your whole home. Twenty four seven think of as a condom for your home to come on your house. You know. It's GonNa protect you from that. I think penetrating wouldn't it your home? I was thinking pregnant. Some saying you do it right Boston inside your house absolutely not you. Click of a button right. There were online. You open the box plays centers plugging into your home protected around the clock. 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I don't know are you? I mean come on. I always want the arguments with Steve did. Not Absolutely Robin attacks on cage would get a little absolutely did not and and keep in keep in mind. He's got the whole weight of the producer. Box chitchatting in his ear trying to come up with arguments for him so this was A. I won't say give him as much as like a David Goliath advantage but he was. I was outmatched. Well are wrestling tactics. And he's just trying to get in Steve's head before they go toe to actually is afraid of. I Dunno I think perform maybe so the fans m Mike Some the show today I tried to a couple of times through a pissing on. Tom's go talk to the audience. So do we have mics Corrina. We have a few yeah. I think we've got a couple. Who's up WHO's up. I I was I okay. What's your mic in one? Is Tom Meltdown? Not long after that. Oh good okay. It's not a. It's not a crazy meltdown. Weirdly controlled enough. Yes church and fifty dollars a mass. Oh that's not. Oh Yeah. Fifty dollars fucking. I'm I'm listening to to be fair. They have a show logo on them. He says He says to Masks Hawkins Merch which I like little PODCAST PROBLEM. And he says he goes. Yeah to masks one hundred bucks. I know that's a little more than a people getting from asked but they do have the time looking based okay Plano meal. You can't solicit fuck off. Yes the senator level and what? What'd you on? Thom Hartmann Youtube channel host. Your own show fucking more faced Kant talk. About what a fucking disgrace. I am Hong Specific. I'm just saying fucking asshole. Jesus your next club meeting. Go me with a count. Really CON CON cont. Oh God it's good that he's not bothered POPs. Each one of those moles fucking shit comes out of in that fucking goes afford spells count on Command Tub. A county is is a comment. Oh God you he's my fucking you know Fifty dollars a month count as he gets to be called for that. Jesus Christ Hammy always like you said you would. It's good face not enticing level gusting fucking human being said the in the the abortion doctors like. I can't I can't do it like a gross came in US trying to jam through that fucking Mole fucking kills fucking kid you just fucking went away said fuck it the guys like you said the mom said Mrs may want kids just count. Mom's like I know slithered out. He's like right away. Like you know maybe charges much for an abortion like why the fuck the fucking food year sucks you make you make them like two hours where Jamaican we four hours. That's not safe. Oh haven respected all for this fucking place fucking worst abortion clinic. I'm GONNA another abortion clinic at fuck and hang out there. Fuck you can't fucking Dick Young Age real anyway. I'm just saying you good Steve. Right good point Tom. General the people that don't like Tom Harmon show. I went outside the box there. But there you go anyway so so mike so I yes okay. Let me hear this call and welcome back. Common Big Fan governor level patron. So I'm a little disappointed that you're avoid the big issue today. Which is you're afraid of ESI Robinson. Okay it oh this is. This is so funny I mean well. Is it funny Tom? They're not GONNA go tomorrow. It's going to avoid the sleuth will set you free well. We're going to go there eventually. Tom My gets with that. What's that the three all the above benefits plus the full three hour video? Reruns Thom Hartmann program Monday to Friday an hour or so after the governor back. That's pretty good so the full three hours are available for free right now Paris. How much more do we have to pay for? A slice of pizza without fear was the highest while this World King. Five hundred dollars a month. We've done this before all the above benefits which you've already listed plus you will be the only support our highest level. Here's the support. I love that you're benefit. Is You get to be the Guy? Who's spending the most money on the show? The only more on the take me five hundred dollars that's you again that fucking fetus slithering on the floor. Somewhere is fucking bitching about me as a Governor. I was granted exclusivity. And you're putting on on periscope now pressures. That's the says Christ thought I mean five dollars. A month to get access to regular supporter. That's a diplomat access to regular supporter only video from thuom. A Tom Thumb. Actually you call thumb. That's how he pronounces okay. Tom Steve Does to to play right helping to support the cost of providing the program the nonprofit Radio Cable Stations. Enjoy the program. Remember Tag. You're it he's Christ amazing on this guy's Hawk and Shit for. Oh what an asshole. As I was arguing to get on with their phone screener and then do I was calling over and over at my girlfriend's working in the next room and she was like the fucking you're doing I was like I'm exposing the media. I'm doing important work. Meanwhile he's got three thousand listeners on any given day now oh by the way I saw the Q. Free the total listeners. Fifty eight hundred. Oh Wow you're spot on give credit. We're GonNa let me get some Boston exciting radio news later but all right so the calls continues a fly in here by the way probably his coronavirus but whatever. Kill it now. Who's the next call? Adam that you advertisement on e I now seventy five bucks adamant Atlanta City New Jersey. Hey Adam what's on your mind. Oh Wow okay So Tom at like like you said it's Adam Jersey I'm conservative and I am curious to get your take on something that I read a report. The fact that the liberal media and Liberal General. Yeah Okay so another attempt. I'm not going to even me. So flustered so flustered. Really this is the second Claudia. Let me just say this again. There is a right wing guy. Who's had this little podcast? And he was the producer of some show and I believe I learned yesterday that he's got a new show on Sirius. Xm accent producers have called me in the past and said you know. Hey you know we're doing so and so would you have your our guy on. Can we talk about this? Can we cross promote shows? I'm more than happy to protest. I really am great. And I love debating conservatives. Good doing it for years. Okay that's stalked me on twitter and they try to crash my show right by constantly getting on and trying to say least say police home and you know I mean if you're in radio you know we've got a nine. So I can delay an obscenity button. We push the button vanishes but even if it doesn't on one. Am Station Oregon host inclined to say? Oh Yeah let's get the coolio Rivera today You know I mean we book. Julio regularly conservative -servative he's sweet. Tom Talk Right now. But it's like give it up guys you know it's hold on. I'll say this thumbs credit once he says give it up guys either demis. They'll give it up and they smell sensitivity in blood there in. There's always just knocking to the point where this guy is not going to take phone calls. GonNa fucking just ramble. Nothing for fucking three hours. There's no chance that I'll spend all my day. Three hours of what is three hours at least calling him. Hello Tom Design eight laugh. Steve Do Hanging. Periscope actually liked the second amendment so he told at one point. He told his producers to stop answering calls. They've never solely one. Answer my call they said Neal MDC. Because I've called before so they must have a role your oh. They thought he was like a regular yes. They have a record of everyone. Everyone who was called at one point. They told him. Stop taking calls from numbers we've never seen before it's a good instinct for radio host. Blonde Blonde prison. Mike Got Through. Yes so this seemed like this was contentious right. Yeah my understanding is I was on while I When I was done calling general theory heroes eating two front assault. Yes yes. He's on periscope commenting as well good one. Mike and Mike on work together and of course. My name is Blonde Mike. So they saw that and then Blind Prison Mike calls in moments later and says that he's An incarcerated before incarcerated. We have an yes. Yes yes incarcerated. And he's lost his vision. I don't know what he was leading up to it that maybe the George flooding us. He's playing to liberal sympathies. Perhaps that is what that's a good strategy and Well it worked because the producer. Who's like Oh interesting? You're blind and I guess another one of the producers. Here's no that's one of the guys in the chat. So I think my thumb thinks you host a podcast series radio or no correct. Well if you hear more of his comments it sounds like he thinks I yeah. He hasn't come around. He hasn't uttered the words Kirkman. It I don't think he knows. I think I mean his producer. Sean who I must say was always very pleasant to me is probably researching and trying to be like okay. So Blind Mike Fans Kirkman Shimmy that hard Syria show. What the fuck right. We're more calls. Yeah can hear your mind today. Can you hear me? Can you thank you Tom? How's it going? I've been a senator listen of yours for a long time now I love the program But I I want to talk about absolutely disgusting. Does on Conservative on this? You're disgusting. That who is I call? I have no idea like thirty. Different people listening to the Stream and recording it by the way on our instagram page. The entire every like there's A. There's a clip of Tom. Talking about you. That's like us fans that's like six minutes long so everybody so we had more people calling thumb. Probably listening today to the regret goes. I would think so pretty. Close anyways all right. Here's some more Scott. No Scott Beuller an epidemic of this. Today let's try Ziggy in Atlanta as your mind point. Hey I just wanted to talk about. Donald trump junior triggered a million with that. I had read other but I've seen the covers hasn't read. Yeah you don't need to read it you know it's boring but it's you know. Gauche written by somebody actually no. I didn't know that I'M NOT SURPRISED. But yeah it was supposed to have a different title supposed to be. Don't be scared of me by Esi Robert. I'm telling you guys this is not the way to do it. The same sense mad dog. This is not the way to do with. What's the way really? Yeah see Robinson. Yeah Yeah right whatever whatever could feel good for you. Count Votes senator. Yeah sure we have more all right so this is the last one. This is the one this is where he goes off on a rant. A Good I did I there there. There is something happening and I just want to give you a little. Don't talking from his study. I thought he was in. Dc Steve News West debased when he worked for Russia today but after the two thousand sixteen election it was a bad look for a progressive to be taken paychecks from Vladimir Putin. And so he's now I think west coast because the am station is on as an organ eye. So I think he's west coast interesting all right there. You Go I noticed a few weeks ago. That a right wing guy who had been a guest on my show on our T. Back on the. There's no last call before this. No this is just the rant I said this is the last year started tweeting. Abby me about me well we say a right wing when he said that a right wing guy who used to be a guest on his program started tweeting him. I never tweeted me. Seemed why he's lying. One of his soldiers was true. Tweeting at me going. Hey you know you got to put this guy on the air people. Listen to show every one store seventy year old guy. The Guy who literally the only fans are one hundred and five literally just like we need to do something about Gmo's trump's the worst going on inside figured okay. It's just some guy who's trying to leverage his career off my show we've got the number one show in America gradually and so I just started and I walked about twenty of his friends who are saying Hartman. You're a coward and Hartman and this that and the other thing The simple fact the matter is I regularly debate conservatives on this program I love concern. Graduated on this program but and I think I can speak for probably pretty much everybody. Nobody likes theme bullied and true in thinks he's right right so yesterday. I got a note from somebody. Who's in this central saying that all kinds of his friends going to call on your show today mentioning his name on the air. So rat is a rat that certain so if somebody listened to the podcast when it dropped at midnight and instead of an email it would still be before midnight west coast time. I never saw on the podcast. You did you did yesterday. The jets you're going to be doing this but I don't think there was anything how you but while your friends now we know. We never talked to anybody who it was. It was because we didn't do a podcast yesterday. Yeah we dropped one at midnight yesterday morning yesterday morning. Right we do in every day. No I understand. The last podcast will be recorded before this morning was Tuesday. And that's when you call them out. Did I guess yeah? I wasn't today because I didn't walk me until yesterday. Meantime rat I'll tell you what's peculiar is. I told Justin Patrick to put it in discord and I meant There we go. That's a few other minute fan. Might be where it is. Look I mean like I said there's some people I like them. Discord some fucking suck so that could easily happen because you know they're being I mean I don't WanNa get into that. There are people on there have shows on Youtube who've think there no use for them but yeah go ahead telling you advance that this guy who had a podcast and I heard this morning and I haven't heard any verification of this that he just got a show on Sirius. Xm and if that's true. God bless him. That's Great Oh God I am. I am Sirius. Radio host s lighting. Up the right wing satellite radio. Wow maybe a little a serious crossover promotion took on. Barstool should be on. This guy should be on the Robertson report. That's why that was my first instinct. Let's let's do this. Let's settle on equal footing on a youtube show. That barely exists little scared. Why don't you call them up? Don't you tweet him in a classy way? Say You did earlier today. I said I have considered thumbs invitation. I'm willing to settle this on a neutral ground Robinson falling on deaf ears. Those he's been blocked that's true. Oh yeah there you go all right. This guy's no idea. Why am I like this friends with this completely? I'm happy to put Sirius. Xm hosts on my program cross promote or any of our. That'd be Great Asians. I do it all the time but not that way. I mean that's that's child. It's not great. It was very childish. Steve so price are you would never call before. We're going to stop doing that. Good move It doesn't really matter and only 'cause I want to be on the show you reach out to my producer. Sean Taylor. That's how you know if if if somebody wants to get booked on our show you reach out to my producer. Her email address in her name or on my website. It's not a big deal. So he's not he's not accepting the road game he wants to host yes. You can't call him on the phone like that. You look you'll you'll be week. I was GONNA send Sean any monge but like hey look. I saw this a clip of Tom. Begging for me to be on his show. I mean this you say you send them say hey this the Kirkman hint show. Don't send if you just do a different producers name would love to have on the show Kirk likes to talk to Liberals and Republicans who I am just be like. Hey Steve Rub. Yeah Hey look. I don't know what's been going on but the thumb heads have been taken. You know harassing US I can. You could use call them on. The tweet tweets getting believable crazy. My favorite part of this is everything he's saying is right if he replaces the name. Esi Robinson with Mike Gary. Very child credit when credit. Nothing wrong here never existed in anybody's mind. What what we're both insane and Mike doesn't exist. That'd be nice that would be. I wish that were so. Why do this thing like some toddler who is throwing a tantrum and instead of aggressive little baby? You still team Tom. It's well I mean. Look the I'll give them this. Put the challenge out there right. You're not going to do it so I was wondering I mean. Can we even talk about how to handle this now that we know that there are rats in the midst? I think we just don't trust anybody anymore. Yeah that's all I mean these people because you know I I don't if chose to hate us and like I said that's not that's their own little discord world. It's not the Kirkman hand showed this. I will say this. I think that s e Robinson will be accepting the challenge. Oh Okay I'll give you reach out to Sean. I have not yet. I've actually since I emailed her in December to see if she wanted to to do something because I was in DC. And I didn't realize that he got kicked off Russian propaganda. Sure no response back so I was kind of expecting her to email me. But we'll see okay. Well that's something to keep an eye on excellent And I by the way. I'm looking forward to that. But the most looking forward to on my Tommy John Again tomorrow. I have on right now to shows worth of Tommy. 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Get it Ya fat. You know. It's it's not great for that's probably true. Yeah well may happen. The Harry Man. Who knows he's good? That's all that matters. All right. What else do we have Stevo Well I'm wondering if I should post a blog. Post Barstool Manhattan Exposes Open Air Drug Mart. Down Boston. Kmart will be fine with that up. Well he's he's. He was bragging a little bit about his newfound courage to post blogs yet. I told you about that. He merely sent you see how fast I put that one up. And where do you job? I'll leave it at. That was leave it at that. Because I'm a Nice Guy Steve. Yeah Yeah Oh yeah I'll nice guy. I'm a nice guy I like. Hey mark well I don't but I mean I whatever. Let me start he's fine. He's a wonderful guy you know. Why like it Barstool? I'll give you maybe every barstool go for it. I did the movie show with him. He's one of the lights camera. Barstool guys needed the podcast with nineteen. Today's Jeff Low. I like him really. Yeah he's smart. He's what'd you say like that China? Like no you're gonNA say Eddie because you guys. I sort did that yesterday. Show I like I like Jeff Low. He's smart these fiber campus course. Breakfast be nice once. Jeff Lowe is a good guy and I liked that lights camera barstool show. I liked the policy with Nardini smart. I like him. I'd worked with him. The future few of US Open to that. Oh good if you ever need me. I'm there for him I think he he was very helpful with us when we when we did our first movie night. Our last movie night as well I reach out and I was like. Hey you've done this before. I should know he was like over the top very helpful. Great Guy so there you go. Bearing everybody is the opposite of K. Mark it was bizarre. Okay Marco that's a quota like they'll use that one well just just just the Guy Needs. He's a nice guy that's all. I'm saying a lot about them but yeah I mean right but I mean he's been nice to me and I think he does a good job. I like that podcast. Bear your enemies help you. I will say after. Well say the fuck was struck blackout. You're interviewing somebody excited. I just WANNA say he that nervous. Where you say After passionately defending Steve for three hours. Aiding to realize the man. I was defending after I went on a walk myself and listen cleared my head after dealing with Thom Hartmann. Yes and I listened to a particular wanted to play just in general the idea that Steve Thinks of himself as this. Just a folksy just disgusting. He's talking about toys. The Guy Different person on the show. I don't think don't you think that it's like I can't articulate my county but there's there's there's some I do the same thing you have is your your? Do you have any sound? No sound sham parcel. They nothing no nothing. Actually I was on today on yesterday. I really loved Eddie's so it was looser. I felt like when he started with Steve and then when he starts with you he's like let's just get fucking right and it didn't feel very loose or Laffy with me. It felt more like interrogation. Yeah it felt. It felt more like it was just an absolute stranger. Just like really learn understand. We're pretty loose. I like him I think. With the accent he was the perfect guy to be invested. So you're telling me it's like the beginning a few of those cops. Yeah and she tell me There Mister Kimble. The the guy in one arm arm guy broke into the House and at times. They moved topics. And he's just like I. Just don't understand. Bicentennial man started to do the thing I was like. Oh you're a Chicago guy. You must have strong opinions. And he's like yeah. Yeah but tell me about. The score may use a tense. When I was talking to him off I'm saying he seemed more focused while he want to get to the bottom story. This hell of a gum. He's a gumshoe Texas families skill. He'll he also is like rigidly to this idea that this has to be twenty five minutes in length of a dog walk. So he's got his format and he's GonNa stick to respect our long walk. Did you have to produce yours both episodes of priests who Clyde known? Did you have to produce your hit on the dog? Who's this produces? Yeah 'cause I had to produce well I mean that's that's your job. No it hasn't produced a dog at the end the proof you have one and then just but my favorite part don't bury at Ease Icecap. I had no problem doing my favorite part thinking about it was. I assume that he does very well in Chicago. There's probably a lot of people that go out for a walk and listen to Eddie every day and there are some that. Listen TO STEVE AND PRO product. I don't give a fuck about this gourmet burgers and Bruce thing. I can't wait to get to Thursday talking about this. Yeah Yeah Way here today as the WASCO tennis center taking Stacey so why is the warden of the North Executive? The dog walk just became all. We're doing steve is this Do I pronounce Tom? He gets Hartman. Now it's to save place now. It's weird yeah. I'm looking at page to sixty two here. This is a very strange. You know the is an aunt or an anterior news. Whether whether John Can the call to call he goes. Oh tried that bullshit with me where it's a mid West thing and I wasn't buying damn right right but a nice guy very nice. Nice guy there's a partial was mostly. I would say what did you say. Mostly Nice people in my experience. Yeah I mean it'd be like. Is there anybody who's not nice to came off talking to me? No one I can think of. No No. That's true. Well that's true but I mean by-in-large l. seem pretty cool. It's just like I don't you know I could be. There's a lot of intense focus on people doing their own projects and brands. It can be misinterpreted as Colt like a cold affect misinterpret me or how I happened and then you know we'll see but there has not been peacetime for awhile consuming. Mikey took anything barstool. Breakfast calls the other day. Did you see that? That's funny? I feeling it's not the on air talent. Probably just a guess but I could be wrong but he likes. You know who really I mean we. Yeah we talked to the Super Bowl from it. Yeah I'm pretty sure yes. List we made allies is probably much longer now. I would say yes. That's probably true. That's probably true so anyway. Well Steve. I've got a little bit of Audio that someone brought to my attention from your old podcast old podcast. Who's against my former boss? I think Oh yes is. Book Is Wild Kennedy Babylon Volume. One essentially of scandal in deprave the how we will promote enough in the interview that for him. I will say that I was somewhat skeptical going into the book but it is a fucking blast if you want to read about the Kennedys. Wild gossipy insane stuff. I'm telling you walk around with this book fun. Well this the perfect kind of book that how we can write off this book. That's you literally. How Guide write that book? I don't see a lion that's certainly was were you there. was this. This is the first time I was I was. You'll see the. He went to for that one. The first one yeah. We're twitter for Kanye model on to talking to then kitchen although Steve the second time no oh Oh Jeez wild yes right. How we on in two thousand yes. Yeah for both them in the I did. I did a show her two from From need them. Yeah I think he did it. How and then you did the Sopranos personal by the way said No. The last time asked him Anfal fault him. He's on the list axes too good for me. Enjoy each other. I don't think so what what happened. You didn't see said no less time. No I know but why I don't know why because I'm fucking liberal. I've no idea barstool. Jesus no promote the fuck these books for the Sky. Sox wouldn't believe and they're good. He's good writer. Spreads Book is awesome. The break up is Great. Is One hundred hundred. Tv shows over was good. Good Book Breaking Bad book this. Yea The house you want you can read it. I'll get it on tape albacan not right now. But she's sucks of that takes. Bike said right. You did. That's not the point. I was making really fast. Sure the point about someone who's reading and I used an example. I guess you guess what happen so you want to see ordering WANNA reading. The breaking bad book to the point was about somebody who sucked at reading and you invoked her right but she doesn't suck it reading. Well you know she's not good at it. It's not a first always you could read. I mean she could read. That one might be great. I'm not saying that I'm just you know he's a decent reader okay. What what. Heisenberg talked to. I talked with her upside before the show. That's pretty good. I didn't realize Kirk overheard our conversation. Cancer back writing to be fair. You remind me of his son even listen to the PODCAST So what is going on in the wacky world of Boston radio too because I boy? That's how people tweet away. So there was a format change from entercom station correct. Yes so it's an which was like it was like a top forty it was a DJ case. Though right yeah. It was said to me today. Techno Music I so they. They are an intercom station. Like he Iowa so one night we party with all the people that was the last time I spoke to David. Feeling Person Me and Jerry was the middle of the Mercer Madness and there was A couple of people on that station that like love our show so I talked to a few of them. They say it was probably one of what's that morning host. Yeah Yeah Yeah huge. He was basically like a nice enough guy yes he was one of them. But I didn't get would who is an artist they would play Lizzo. Justin Bieber sure. Yea Came Music Cra. So they're gone now. All the deejays are blown out and their offense essentially replaced by on the mated music. Now you'll Mike. Fm So yeah. It's going to be. It's going to be the big one. Oh three and they're boasting about only two minute. Set like commercial break is a good sign unbelievable. So now they're going to go back to their key. Artists include guns and roses Prince Journey Madonna Pearl Jam the notorious B I g. acdc Britney Spears Blink. One eighty sold. Wf and then are now going to play. All the music played on their push. Britney Spears plus journey spirit and the two minute promise but what? How were they so obviously? They're not they're they're overheads zero. Well they'll pay licensing right but there's no. Dj's they're just there's no personnel automated thing that's fucking spits out the next song. Yeah and it's probably probably it's probably no it's probably cookie cutter. Acrossed off for that automated. I mean they'll need one guy to program the automated but that one guy programming fifty automation's GonNa say he could he could be in Topeka right anywhere anywhere. Yeah so I mean but this I mean I always ask this. I was talking about this today. Like where how is that? GonNa make money. Who in the world? Now listen the journey and they just can't find players sixty five hundred people listening to point. I mean they. You can't have there aren't a thousand people listening to that right now. No way no way I mean if you just chance I mean there's no one listening to the radio right I'm GonNa talk. E has an advantage overstated. Talk but there's so much overhead. Think about it. You're bars bars cume. But still the no amount of your expect. I'm looking at the expense of what's The prophet. You're still going to sell. You'RE GONNA make more money on a commercial on that music station than you will. I'm talking neck because what's our show right now on the new power one of three. Maybe it's fifty bucks which is still you're still making more than you've got four commercials in our. Yeah she making two hundred dollars an hour. Yeah and then but see the thing is Joseph to pay. Licensing Fees pinker overhead. Yeah but it's that across however many stations are getting lost. The main thing okay. It's that for every shuttle station. The one automated guy is doing. I know but I'm saying but as opposed to pay. How many salaries are you paying? Sure you're more. You have more inventory on E. I but how many salaries are you paying? Oh and then you're paying has no question about it actually makes more sense just like I've been saying they should just syndicate one regional sports station across like. I think they're going to do that. But I bet you fifty dollars now is probably a stretch of fifty. Ads probably stretch at this point. I just want to clarify. They didn't called power one of three what they call it. What'S THE NAME OF BETWEEN THOSE STEVE? Just because we're now I WANNA station called power so it would look kind of silly entercom flips CHR. Walds FM one zero three point three amp ago. So it's still it's now big one. Oh three the tagline is music unleashed cool. It's been reached in the passing news and more leafed. Wait until the whatever single this is the last of the Presley want Steve. I didn't remember where I said. It will initially launch without air talent right. Well we knew that. Initially at some point they're open to acquiring some on air talent over. Sure I mean that's GonNa get Literally Zero Rating. Is that where I don't know I think Music They'll they'll be some audience for this. You can get that everywhere one of if you're in Boston. Helium talk if you're in Boston right now I'm talking about one. Five seven has all that point? Seven has a law. They're really only if you think about it. They're really only competing against a handful of music stations here for an apple. The audience doesn't get by the way. If you're in Boston you listen to the radio music. It couldn't to that particular music. It couldn't be more established already in Boston where you're GONNA go. It's possible it's people who flip around stations that don't have an adapter for their phone or on a drain their data. That's who listens which is at this point and got to be a very small. He's all you're hoping for and this is how this business works all. You're hoping for if you're am. Is that when everything is back to normal? Some fucking dentist office has a fucking meter. Oh yeah or somebody. Somebody like dies. Yeah with your station. Right in the bar or barbershop has it and they mistakenly just find one day they're flipping around and fucking don't stop believing his on and they want to hear it was leave here for the month and then you get rating and then people will get promoted and people get more money. That's how fucked up at it and you know there's there's some fucking crony of David Fields. Who came up with this idea? Yeah Oh it's killer killer David you know in the past when you drive around the car and you're listening to Hotel California in the felt like penalty. Sched look back mirror leashes my friend. Way to hear you ever heard Madonna. Play. Madonna all fucking day buckle up folks. Britney Spears coming to town you. What was the last night thing? I'll do for you okay. I'll be played. Welcome to the jungle guns and play the welcome to the fucking jungle. Jesus Christ you can get it. How many other places your life? You heard that. Welcome to the Jim. It's nice to hear a song her before once in a while. I love music. Jesus Christ. That's not what our study shows actually We amp before the EMP. Deserve to die for this when I was working for income. We didn't event where we had to drive around the city all day. Jesus so we just had the rent we we were just talking so we weren't paying attention. What was on the radio until we realized? Oh you've told us before who have hourly two hours or five years. It didn't seem like an hour. Every hour they played the same eight songs that start. Well Steve Why they do that. Because now everybody's listening for an hour because the is that these other station now. They made the format change already. Yeah they probably. They're probably saying every fifteen minutes we jump in. Yeah I think they change over ten o'clock this morning of course knowing that it's Entercom THE SONG. The song predictions let see Stare would have no god. It's the worst. Guess I'm going to say see. Look here I served in ad trying to pulp livestream. That's we just gave them five cents. GonNa make some actually probably a point. Zero zero hit the number. They need to make some money. I'll go with WHO back in black. Okay Yeah we stayed pretty basic. That's I don't know they might go with some deep cuts. Sdb's noise songs. I know all of them. Actually mister big. Do you want to hear what's playing now if you're one of those people who like big one three right out of the gate ask. Have you been tested yet? S Film you know but in New England. They never played like goose to even. I know this music. I've actually listened to this call right now. Driving around the guy we're good. I can see the songs that have previously played. Don't give me some. Pour some sugar on me. I have never heard before Little Red Corvette by Geico semi charmed life by third. Mix up a little bit. I notes on the stroke by Billy Squire. Ooh This is a good one Wanted dead or alive by Bon Jovi. Okay good Summer time by DJ jazzy. Jeff and the fresh prince on me see genres. Have you ever heard of a guy named Pat Benetton? It's actually a woman Steve. With your can't even make fun of Big One of the three. Edebali basket case by Green Bay. I've heard of them. I've heard him theses. Mom by Felton of Wayne. Should I go or should I stay or should I stay or should I go by the clash? You go there. You go where the streets have no name by YouTube. This is I think. I think it's going to be a big fan of this dying. I'm GONNA tune in on them on my way home the radio for the first time. She's so it's just so vailable. Music is not terrible songs. You're listening you're not terrible. It's just that a no one's going to listen to all of those like no one is a fan of all of the variety of music. You're playing no in staying there for very long and you can get fucking anyway. Here's the thing though. They need to catch somebody for five minutes. I get to catch somebody for five minutes with a meter to register in a quarterly Steve. Three minutes ago pepe again taken wildly out of context. But it's no it's not. It's actually completing new. What's unusual is that you were saying like Benetton is partly you have a new name Pepito. Yeah totally is. That's why I five Benetton Sings Song. What love is a battlefield? Was it hit me with your shot? No yes that's true you the man that seeing that some which probably never saw hit me with your best shot yeah. I've heard that song you thought it was a man singing. Yeah still do. It's not not that there's a woman have you checked lately. Assuming gender yes. I am been sketching the ropes. Now little fucking retrograde spoiler maybe you are right wing leaner I try to be. Let Me Google Pat Benetton sex change. That's a phrase either. It's a worthwhile search to Let's happens you are committing to it. He's into it now. You might have here guys. He tried that can we? Can we can we? At least what's at the church and it might next door might be smoking pot. How good it wasn't just me. She's say there's overwhelming aroma of skunk or marijuana. Can't smell it smell to your allergies it's hundred. Yeah there's a pungent aroma marijuana here. Great tastic church stuff the Rastafarian incensio them. Oh Yes can get. Contact your parents. Can we play a little bit of hit me with your shot just to see if it's a bike masculine? She was a rocker. Yeah if you want to but I mean it's clearly a woman. Oh Yeah No. She's got the big hair. No no the voice power. One big eighty five big. Can you hit the post? How much time do I have on this do do do do do to do? I think I can go power one of three point. Three two commercials every hour fifty eight minutes of rock and Roll Music Pat Ben Atar. I don't think so married to new Gerardo for thirty six years. You know what she always hits him with her shots ex ask me. That's definitively female. Don't want snowing. Let's take some calls. Oh I just note that. Oh before I forget this you mentioned on the show earlier that you had an idea for Jon Stewart. He said. Don't let me forget and let you forget. No I still got it. Yeah you want you said. You WanNa talk non here. Oh don't you worry about? Where's the Pizza Guy Tonight? We're all GONNA fucking munchies. Steve could easy. Be Take my hourly pay this over second which must see without me again now. You just off the show. Well I said I. I'm I'm here so I if you guys want do without me. Justin can filling just just an Jonathan Terrible. Well I appreciate that. Wanted me tweet out the number now? Not No way of knowing. What's the number Got Internet? It's eight one four. Two seven seven K. I. R. K. We one second eight one. Four two seven seven K. F. A. I R. K. Go I also might sent. What's that I came to a decision on the drinking show? Okay I will drink if essentially if you knew if I'm the best option like if you want me over some random listener I will do it. I've also said I will jump on his hat in the ring I'll be open host and I figure in or whatever then you're not gonna get too many wrong. I saw Kevin from Bristol suggested that to do it. So we'll see we'll see we'll see up to you is what I'm saying. Thank you all right now Steve. They're loaded up now all right. Good evening I'm pretty pretty wild show here so far I would say yeah good evening. Hello who am I speaking to Mr Alex Guy? What do you want Alex wanted to say that the five K. Was a lot of fun. Thank you I think that Mike's doing a really good job. No joke and I've always been curious about this. Sirius radio numbers like Back in the Super Bowl. Just how they were yesterday. No idea serious keeps that in a black box. Listener an advertiser. Maybe yeah. We'll never have any idea I don't I have no absolutely no clue. Okay okay. Why doesn't ruin like you? I don't really know but it doesn't seem to really care but then you're not to call into big cat show and he doesn't they. Don't take my calls about it like I don't ask specifically about that but I'm just like I have like your show in mind and they never pick up and that would wanNA talk to offense. I don't know I know I think it goes back to it. Goes back to when the New England rough and Rowdy and woman came out. He said he said like all whoever whoever that person is. GonNa to lose or something and so we talked a little bit about on the show and he interpreted it as as as talking. Shit I was just I was like ooh new enemy at Barstool. It's GonNa be fuck who me. Yeah I don't give a fuck you're always joking. Yeah yeah no no. We were friendly Miami. I don't think you're a nice guy. I don't think he's a bad guy I don't know at all but this seems like a good guy. Don't I mean yeah? I don't think he's probably on the fan but I'm so be Kurkin Mike. I have a brief statement. I would like to read okay. Slightly adapted from legendary Boston journalist. John Tomasi okay. First and foremost this is about a writer breaking one of the Cardinal Rules of journalism. You had repeatedly heard that condiments were prohibited from the hot dog contest. Eventually I accepted it as fact and stop questioning your surgeon at the end of the day. I'm human and humans. Make mistakes Kurkin Mike. Let you both down. And I'm sorry today. I want to begin the long road back with anybody else. Who Paul mostly like to apologize to. Who's part of the show or no intern? Justin okay? Well you know what I would say I would say to. You is once great radio Episode said take a break breaks over. Get back to work you understand. Have a break you. I have a piece of breaking news though boy. Oh okay disgrace. Apparently some fan journalists said reach out to John Bomb. Brier that I saw I did see some of that. Yeah from Providence Show Day reporting reporting that Jon. The bomb beat Harlan in two thousand six. Okay here's Ziggy. Robinson Exclusive Harlan. Veal vehemently denies the claims. So not only the the bomb lose to him in two thousand six but John. Coban was arrested immediately after the competition and use it as wrestling publicity stunt. Wow Wow so to come on that story for that one. I was not no No I believe it was still brilliant promoters. What I'm saying right I you all right I can hear myself in. These goes thing on all right thanks. I appreciate the apology. Didn't do us any good note. It's just another step closer. Ninety nine percent exonerated at this point. And I'm just like we're edging closer and closer and closer to my complete indication. We're not get too cocky. Look you got Colin. You missed with me. It's fine. I never tried number trying to get you my one these journalists you want me to turn my sights on you can do if you want open minded willing to yes. Yes Cross up Steve. Hello evening welcome to the Kirkman. Show guys Listen Longtime Listen I really liked the show I never get through so I just wanted to let you guys know how much I enjoy the my gate. I'm someone who doesn't really get along. Get get involved much with some of the other things because my job But I I love supporting the show getting some merchandise and sporting kind. I really enjoyed our guys. That Steve. You did a great job With the broadcast and Mike you Larry With Flies Guy Twenty. Feeling what you're doing it's great and for everyone who's bitching about stuff they need to get things change and you guys doing a job with everything so just keep it up. Thank you very much. She can't all Nice Gentlemen. I mean it's a rap right. I'm sure the pure the rest of the calls will be that kind complimentary. Everyone what's very nice. Thank you thank you so much. Thank you so much sorry Hello good evening. Good evening I love everybody. Hello Hello but what do you do this to Mike? Every time who is my name is Jay from New Jersey. Okay Jay. What's what's up with one. Do what with Mike it every night? You just treat them the way you do make clear the way you feel my gearhead. We're good. This guy participated in taking down Thong. Tha THE GO. See our listener son. Bradley had a good day to them which is nice. Yeah the good surgery and he went home. That's nice to see it. Seems like a very nice guy. The Sun seems like a good kid too so I was happy. Happy to see that. Very nice to see for our buddy Bradley sue if I got eighteen stuff like that but looks like everything's good so that's fantastic our next call. Please hello yes. This is the fellow blind owl Khali. I haven't talked to you. I don't think we've talked this week. Have we maybe now? Are you going now and I've been busy gym teacher. That's what I'll say. I forgot your teacher Yes so denny hastert realize about her talks these these emails from me looking up happy. Now yes go ahead Blah what my question to actually per Michael. I didn't vote in the movie more often. The blind what community like. What do you mean community school? I didn't know there was one honestly over fucking college days. Now you both blind. I think we've been through this before it because the totals exclude you right. You feel me. I don't WanNa be doing doing. I only knew that I didn't I didn't know this guy warring depressing group. Anyway just handle the running. What's the laughs in that that? Yeah that's TR- talkative bunch. It's perfectly hilarious to watch. I also impartial like Mike so I kind of totally like the girl you show up. See that total. Thank you but Mike there's blind sports to be played. There's things why aren't you getting out there now? He just really. He just ran a five K. Two I'm an athlete. You saw triathlon coming up. That's true the answer. Your question overall is that I was always resistant. Guy Always want. I was very nervous about being any like blind classes or anything like that. I wanted to be normal to normal nego complete success. I would question Venetian blind. What's up what's up. How End yes and yet? He come from so far from a normal person right. Isn't it credible joe? All right all right. We'll talk you later you. Could you know ten minutes? She's WHO's up confessing. What's up it's MJ? How you doing? What's up. I'm Jay what do you want? I think I'm responsible for Pitas Golf game because every time we played every hole I let them swap mice growth for his stroke. How about I can so for Easter on each hole fucking penis. Oh Man I let him to mind. Yeah it's sure he would stroke heat stroke. Oh can I see okay? I mean those were crystal clear stroke here but Yes okay like a slow beat sweat from my neck. Down's crack that's like her. Yeah correct yeah at one time out of loop and he was just he was giving me. He's giving me the business because he used to against people how you even though. He broke me down like he would. Just anyone I come across would just pitted against each other like the waitress at the ninety nine we'd be fighting the caddy anyone having better head. You're him well. Wait wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute wait a minute the caddy what's wrong with you. Say the golf course. You'd say who gives better head your him to get seems Kavulich off course. Ninety nine a different tomato. The answer I'm Jay talking. You can't Fuck Suck Dick for Shit. Oh Shit you can't. Was it off and fucking care. Why was it was a satellite when you Suck Dick? You fucking Shitty Dick Sucker. I use both my hand and on now. Was it sally I might here. I'm fucking your fucking so flaccid right now. I couldn't get hard if you fucking Kim fucking do it you fucking pay markup. Oh what the fuck me say to me fucking mouthy bit you fucking talking to you right now. You can get your shit to me right now. Mj fucking talk to me and say that. Yeah Ben Dover fucking over right now you fucking bend over you. What bend over right now. I don't believe Kirk over you. Fuck it back over right now. What he was fucking church next. What did you say what are you saying? Why are you talking in you fucking Dick fucking talking right now? Put Your fucking deck gagging fucking fucking crying about fuck empathetic. Get the fuck Outta here. You're clear face you get the fuck. Outta here back. Don't you fucking don't you fuck it ever call again you call you. They're fucking add you and this you fucking pussy. Get Away from him so disgusted by you hang up. Hang up on the fucking Netflix Jane. My hope is that Young Lady has roommates that you explain that. Call to church quite right down the low. Maybe it's a hereditary thing is. I get worked up. Your parents. Were much more sexual than I. Wait more than yours. I M J and Dudley Challenging. Just random people at a gas station to be. He's sorry I still up. Steve still loaded up Kirk. What's up. Brian mcgrory? Hey Brian Brian. What's new with you? Are you still Around Ram Anti Mit Michigan. Time this weekend. Oh well it was good we add. You know we kind of brainstormed a little bit and we're hoping blind. Mike Kinda shows the ropes of deal. I think you'd mentioned in the past. You know he gets a little grabby on blinded it mean to have you been asked about that before yes or no. Many times you go. That's what I'm saying. So we were thinking you know maybe you could give us a little to`real For the next time we go on the worst idea couples. Yeah I can have certain thing. Sorry sorry The other thing was I think you guys had mentioned you. Had A female intern wind up for the summer. But it fell through and I was wondering if you get Ford on sure. She goes to the US we. We can't offer any pay but I can tell you that we're very hands on benefits for you. Brian sure we'll make that happen for you. Yeah Yeah and then I guess the last you know just lasting waiting for phase phase two or three to happen so you can Hopefully get that live draft going up. We're still in contact with them. Don't we had a representative on the show during the five km then? I think that was discussed right. Steve Yes of course should all separate. We're good all right. Perfect appreciate it. Thank you great job. Is this really globe is great great to hear from you? Keep it up all right Bryan. Thank you doing kind of embracing who they are a little more I. Do you feel like I have relatives. Who listened to the showing you know cousins and stuff? I think they feel about probably fine. Probably know him. The I noticed I think at that minivan gene. That probably jerk off. It's probably true. He's a multi little. You know just saying hello hang up. No THEY STILL LOAD UP Steve. They are good evening. Hello Hey this is grant North Carolina. Hey I got a quick question for y'all who handled the youtube account. Well the remains. The current hand network account is a group effort the Kirkman show account that is just show clips right now is by DJ K. AKA. Alice black got it. I love it. I love it. I mean I I I look and feel religiously remind me of Rogan in some situations. The one thing that I would add is is the one thing that I think. That's missing from the the The Youtube show account is the conversations with the callers. That's where Kirk and Y'all get the most joy that's where you guys see the laughter. That's interesting just. The worst point looked yeah videos on Alexandra Cooper Joe Biden Bullshit. Thanks Georgia Georgia seasonings. No grandmother where I know we put on the ones that get fifty thousand views to be conceived. He's just making the Pineau arrest for a couple of days. We hear the calls. Here's the video of people would like to see US reacting to it for sure. We're just the next time there's a bunch of calls. I forget the last time you even do the best of the week or whatever the best of something together that's a good suggestion absolute but in the hopper. That's we don't see. We don't dismiss everybody all right. Good evening birthplace of ideas here. Well you not like the think so tone. She gave this guy a golf club. You've probably try to fuck it. Yes go ahead on. He looks terrible a little bit when I was in the service. I wonder Chips Cup three weeks in a row. Beautiful definition to ashby a model for the Fox in poster. He was half perfect but I was flat at. Just what else going on Paulie? I'm having a good walk swiss-based moisturizer fuck you anders bullshit. And that's what this is you know satanic black magic six hearkens. I get along with your mom Paul. I'm not a moron scam so I call them from path. Bach gave him the name. Ted Hughes how are things with your mom Paulie okay? Oh the green growth. I need that money for my long-term planning any else. Paulie what do house you're talking together. Strips refused to take his clothes infuse. It takes close off. How's your nephew? Doing little? Paulie probably waiting outside all night talking to pick them up. I probably we'll talk to you later. Puts me the good mood? He loves the satellites that policewoman. He did kept the positive attitude for most. Yeah he did. He survived survivor. He got through it. Even an issue was mom again at the end before she passed away which was nice you know and that was night. He met his ultimate demise. Not so who's Nice Away Pauline? Pauline di- didn't he get his head crushed in the last episode? No Poli live on the show. He in the last episode Paulie. Now that was Frank Vincent. That was What's his face? Oh yes yeah. Yeah I'm in the car will. Yeah Yeah Kinda Sworn Police. None none of them he he made it through. He even took little promotion. He took a bobbies job like when that after Christopher dies in the cats Christopher's picture one second. You're freaking me out. Yes yeah what the hell a Guy? Kebble bike his name. Jesus Christ but that was the sopranos. What the fuck who Franklin Yeah Phillies Leotard L. Till the Atara. Little brother died was not right. Born north Adams Massachusetts by Franken's Frank. And rather well. There you go hello. Hey you just spoilt the problem for me. I'm sorry who's this is is a this is my name's Casey okay. I'm calling in because my husband is a huge fan and he listened to every single day. I've listened to your show a couple of times but I had to call him because I'm pregnant graduation. Aisle pregnant are you thank you? I'm Twenty seven weeks thirty. August thirtieth. Okay I'm August thirty first which I haven't to be my thirtieth birthday. Thirty is your first child. It my first child okay. Congratulations where where do you live? We live in Soko. Main Soko Main Steph. Interesting town right next to bittered. That's true I guess. Yes yes right. Yeah well okay well my husband always says that you black unborn babies true. Yes would you like to do that I would? I would love it. Because he's not he's not home right now and I want him being you this on the show tomorrow and free is a boy or girl yet. Casey April boy boy. It's a man. It's a masculine. If you any names of mind two names in my gut say them. We'll give me one okay. One of them is Frankie Frankie I like that. That's a nice name a good. You'll hear that name much anymore. It's a good sopranos name. There you go see what's that I'm sorry Casey I was GonNa say it goes well with our last name. Okay good well. Yeah Okay so you have to put the phone. Normally I would ask you to put the phone all the way up but Alaska Apu on your belly this time houses fair okay on my belly belly right now. There's no laughing. Cases is a serious event. I mean you want you want your kid to be a fuck up this kid to be a winner. You tell me you're right. Thank you Frankie. It's GonNa be Frankie because this is the Congo I'm praying for you. Frankie through him with him in e of the Holy Spirit garing forever and then a frankie. May You may become king. May you move away from that? Pit called Soko main into a real part of the world we can make a real living may get away from this this father who is obsessed with this podcast this Mambu giggles far too much in waste your time at night putting you on this podcast you can listen to twentyish now as both your parents would be dead by then say why were mom and dad like that. Frankie. Don't think about that. There's a world go get it. It's yours. I am blessing you right now. I'm giving you. I'm not done this yet case. You have not done this yet. Casey press the phone. Don't don't kill the baby but press is you can't killing the baby your stomach right along. Okay Okay you're getting the first ever full Kirkman hand blessing. I give you all my powers. Podcast Jesus I have processing this into your body right now. Franken you feel. Can you feel the baby right? I'm moving around Casey. I always can the but now more than ever. Akc GONNA play along. Casey now more than ever find Frankie Frankie Kirk. Whatever your last name is go live a full life be a man be a real man and be a fan in live as podcast. Jesus would you are blessed now named the father. The son always spirit go with God peace and Lord of our Lord. Jesus Christ be with you all now here. My voice goodbye case. Good luck with your child. The great report will be in eighteen years. When you've long forgotten about this podcast and Alastair black breaks down how all these kids are incarcerated. Wonderful Story I think these kids are all going to be winners right sleeve or the thing is it's weird this morning. You're like ooh Miracles Moses parting the Red Sea and here you are performing merely exist yes carton of America. You don't believe in miracles. No I some year. 'cause my life really try a winner. Now I do cycle main Steve. What are the knows? We knows? Keep remember that same in the fans. Remember that town suck it away. Remai- mainly stupid all right up. Unfortunately yes hello Kirke. I can't believe you didn't drop a splashdown reference than the last call. More of an bogging himself on the inside you know Aqaba. It's much better much. Rip Off I'll tell you the both closed for the summer for sure already done it but can't imagine you're GonNa be splashing around having fun with God forbid you go outside and fucking Go ahead I like uncle. Buck dragons Any but it kirk wife and son. They're they're gone for the weekend. What's your favorite thing to do? When you got the house to yourself. Well what do you? What do you like to do mean forgetting the obvious stuff? Well what do you mean I did you during this where they would just stash them away to to kill him the debt during the ICU. Okay your parents house. Oh good Good furloughed out. So she's good just spreading it around to high rescue. I mean I would say I would say okay only the full story Emma dimension but I would say know. Is there any? Tv show that you like to watch. She hasn't watched. You'RE GONNA sit down to watch like twelve episodes of doing doing that with some movies. Actually watched apocalyptic today okay. That was pretty good. That was fucking crazy movies next movie. Having a fair take up some drugs. Live your life to do right now. God doing things where no place where you can score some things. I would see the find. Some shows you to run a runner Runner. No no not anymore anymore okay. I'm a walker okay. We'll to are you allowed to be Your House Fire Yourself? What do you mean just because you know you're blind like I said it? Does that dangerous at all? No no not yet had never been a handler there at all times a handler. Not a saint load of this okay. I think we're getting his wife just fucking who can blame them going to pair and also people have an odd perspective. The totally blind people are home alone. I would think fairly frequently would imagine someone off. It's GONNA be rough. Mike pays a full time assistant. His name was Rufus. Twenty seven thousand a year right there so loaded up. Steve is God. I mean it seems like a nice guy and everything but Jeez funnier. It'd be funny if Mike had a fulltime handler and we have yet to talk to him on the show here. Hello up at least go tired. It's been a long day. These Chris Visiting nurse from Rhode Island Christie. Sound moving. On just kidding it's actually been Robinson what's going on guys. Hey man what's going on much separate five remain. He's what's going on not too much just recording. The late night podcast. What's funny what's funny? They don't realize that you're in the army as opposed to the Marines. Still telling your brothers to use this. Guy's fault Steve Steve Dick. What's on anything else? You want to say oh no not much. Got A big fan of the show a whole lot. I'm not sure why really I mean your brother kind of said not happening getting your way just said it. Ben said. Your brother doesn't really want us to talk. You know his his explanation is the. You're not a fan of being discussed which is fine. That's okay I don't know what would have given you or that. Good we'll get we'll do going forward. Actually I will hang up and get back to you. Know working on my Anti war policy. Don't get going out. Micro Bay thanks. Good one zero. I will say for a guy that probably had some Chris from Rhode Island routine worked out true pretty well on the not that I still up Steve. There good evening last chance to talk to us for a few days anyway. Hello Hello I it's Erica. I'm calling because I got one of the cameos Kirk saying that. I should be calling in because I'm a coward for not telling you that I think you're drinks and who I sent you a cameo. You came here for me. Oh I don't recall Hudson like my husband do that for me at all. So you a jerk. Sometimes I mean I think that much is true. Eric I don't I don't I would also listen to it. Oh God he's fucking broads. Yapping I said Eric I think I think you're right. I think I can be a jerk. Sometimes I would agree. I don't disagree with that assertion. Okay well I just like how to Mike and feel like. They're being bullied. A great man did. They can quit anytime they want. They get paid. What do you want to say? Your husband Philip. Be Married. You fucking Yasser Gap in the way all day the Hag that you are on my God. Jesus me Yes know. What's calling into your show and I'm your receptors worse than your goddamn complexion. I mean what are we doing here to make fun of? Oh my God like how can you say that? Like there's someone calling in like new your show and you have to two trips. I think she sounds Jesus. Type is Ragu. God what you do what do you mean but I might think that but no I. I certainly understand why you might come jerk. Sure okay. I don't know I feel like even WanNa talk to you all need. You have thought in your head or what was going to find my head. You think he would never been saying. I'm saying I treat politics. I treat of cars the same if they're male or female Erica. I'm being consistency was a guy doing this. I would dump over Mike No. I've never heard you do Erica. Seems like a very nice person but she wants she wants with his Mike and Steve. Think of words they fucking love working for me. Right were unionized right. Yes of course yes. Of course it didn't seem like he was working for you the day that it was two hours. Just calling people like listen this show. Am I wrong probably start? You love your job. I mean you work at that Nail Salon. Do you like that. Every Steve Don't be Nassau. Oh I can use my show. Eric seems like a very nice person. I'm just breaking her. Ball's a little bit. I think you're a good sport. The Right Yep I think lot. That's IT Dr. Steve is the sexiest thing to say. Erica what would you do for a living? I'm a marketing associate. There you go. She's a marketing associate job. But that's fine for your husband listens every now and we're very well known company. Excuse skews macaroni. Says you bet you bet your husband's a big fan? He's a huge fan of every single day. He he absolutely loves Air Dirk Listen to it real my eyes and shake my head. Erica. Taisei other any parts of me that you say. Oh this guy's has some good qualities. It's funny he's smart anything or no handsome. Still don't make it no. Yeah I mean I. I agree with some of your opinions. I think obviously very talented. You have been having the show you've gone from working with Jeremy Networking I personally. I think you have a really loyal following. It's just sometimes. I think you can have this great content would kind of being me. That's fair that can make a fair point back to you because I think that's a fair point. How about your husband? Does the show just make plays cookies and put this just just a hand? Shut your sweet. That's that's not right. I was Mike is always goes to hesitate something he wants to say. That makes affects that book. Okay there you go across America. Got It in there. Oh she seemed like a decent sport. Yes what am I gonNA sit there? Oh I am a jerk like what the fuck let's play. Let's have some fucking funds for fun. Show I mean to be fair to her also just some guy said hey. Call this show because you don't like this guy her listen to it together. I think her husband had the cameras. Saying tell you what tell my wife. It's like. She's not a daily look. Wasn't really expert a call. The shows a cameo. Just fucking MANKOC as mammy. These phone calls. Jesus are they still up Steve. They're still little upper. Hello Oh wow. Erica was a real bitch. Bitcoin actually did seem very. I don't know like what you get to play around a little bit. Don't know who knows. I'm sure she's a very nice actually wasn't doing that. No she was not correct. Correct RECAP I think. She liked to get tell yes. What's up all right kirk? What are your favorite running spots in the area with you and Shumpert so no? Thanks note not telling you buddy I know I remember. I know you will your parody account I am. Yes yes big by Mike. Right yet but blind Mike. How did you possibly do? Oh you met people that but I mean he's got a distinctive he's got Erica I really do like that spot. I like that spot and you can go forever there. I have a couple of runs in winchester. I really like. I'm not one of these like you know I've said this before. I really like going cross country and finding a little town and running through there. That's my favorite thing to do as a runner but yeah that's happening for while years. Probably what the dumbest school? I could do that at some point. What's that school? I'd like to get get out there together. Good Sir I would suggest I think your doctoring. Some of those photos by the way. Nope it's ridiculous. I think there's been some and I don't care for the right. Doctors slow down a little bit. The team it. It puts a filter on. I'll tell you what the the Mike the Official Five K documentary will become. That's good that's a good one. Not a doctored photo in that. No there is not mean. We're at the point now. Where are they looking? Good the image point the night where he's doing his thing res. Bj BS J guys can't were coming after getting this just relaxed. Because he texted me and said Can we do a trash talk this weekend? Oh good let's give me always liked him. Jesus the phone down much your show or something. You're wealthy man. Enjoy your wealth. Count you a millions. Yes you know all right. We still load up Steve or still loaded up car. Hello Hello what's up? Hey It's Chris. Visiting nurse from Rhode Island Not It's now been Robinson good name. What's up Chris? How're you doing buddy? I'm good how you guys doing. Not Too bad actually the funds. I think you'll enjoy the show tomorrow time when we listen to a good time. I know I always do okay. I I had a thing about the Methadone Mile. Sure It it is pretty fucked up that that whole aspect of it and just everything surrounding. But we'll said as you being a little bit libertarian. Yuppie here about Portugal's yes. Oh Yeah I used to play with Jerry by the US fight with Jerry about all the time. Yeah Yeah I think it's a fascinating Like sociology I agree aspect of it is You know I do believe in it. You know as being a nurse and seeing all these drugs pedalled around and well. Here's the problem now because we're in this outline of the pandemic that's what makes it different right now totally at that aspect about big big picture. I it's a tough time to make libertarian arguments right now for the legalization of every drug. I just am like I. I wouldn't do it. I don't want my you know I i. I don't think it's a good thing but I also think it's impossible to control it also. It also needs to go with needs to come with needs to come without the policy changes. You can't just say all right if it's ever GonNa Happen. It's pint sky stuff but yeah you can't just one day it'd be like I for everybody you done right like I mean. Portugal didn't even do it right. It's taken them years. Actually get it right but at the same time. It's very interesting. It made me think of it but yeah Marijuana says he's totally like let's put everybody in a cage and have mobry on each other crazy idea goodell budding. All right good good says I thought he said thank you you hung up on. I did this race right this elope. They are still up there tonight. Go ahead I watched hold on. Watch Paul Jeffrey upset. Occupants wants you to not great. I think he's kind of a pervert. You think so. Yeah I'll say I think he's. He seems never unless. I'm forgetting some big viral video. We're getting them. Speak at the Mike Defensive. Very policy gentleman he does never even got to that Glenn. Maxwell Story About Bill Clinton. How convenient is that? I WANNA watch. Haven't got to that part. Yeah I'll react. You'd like seems like a very very convinced boy. Doubt Dershowitz is kicking around there as well. Yes Nice Guy. Very Hey Alan. Do you WanNa talk about the Miller. Report the Mula report. Sorry the Mueller. Well she was at known already that she was getting involved as well yes. I don't think I knew that day. I she's pure evil scum quick. What's up hello good evening a Gurgaon Boys? Hey quick question for you here. Kirke movie related probably two parts. So I know you know Matthew Deniro Fan you our thoughts on men of honour with Cuba gooding junior stoop and I know in life. Great movie to move killed when people overcome prejudice and discrimination. That's what he said. That was my exactly guide. Your new goose bumps just thinking about that movie most fucking awesome. Anyway go ahead. So thanks Thoughts on men of honour would deniro and Gooding junior but secondly gooding junior overrated underrated Thought he was great in instinct with Anthony Hopkins Low dear thoughts. Hi thanks for the call. I mean you know. Boys in the hoods grey movie and he was good and Jerry. Maguire won the Oscar. Probably shouldn't have but you know. See The problem with him is. I think he was just so fucking crazy. He just fucking like shot himself out of Hollywood. I mean he was going to be but then he took weird roles. He played that role. Radio movie with Paris. Like you gotTa pick your parts right and the ad three or four year rummy could have been and allaster and he took shitty roles like Mantovano knowing tanked radio like you have that the you become. We're talking about two miles teller the other day like when you have these two or three movies you become a big star and back. Then you didn't really have you know there's pop in the marvel movie you know the big hit right have a franchise so you know given the and also I'm sorry also really miscast is. Oj Simpson's twenty. I was about to say giving the obstacles he was against. I think he did a good job. He was okay but in. Saudi really sounds nothing. Like was just too too so given him though you know like I never was able to escape and think that that's whereas with like you know what your face play Marcia Clark or even Travolta or Schwimmer people. Yeah according to be Vance. No I know was just trying to you of racism for not liking men of honor. Why maybe you only Charlene Darren right? It's possible it. I was a real hard S. He likes him at the end. Yeah Oh how do you feel about Leo De Niro? Scorsese movie going right to apple rate. Today he's IT Apple Answer. I'm getting like What was the one that they just released on the Irish? I'm getting the Irishman vibes a big corporate projects. How everything wrecking Robert Deniro? Yeah no I'm just saying I'm just saying like there's going to be all kinds of hype about you meant to be a leader for a streaming service and Leo usually pretty selective for sure so. I don't know if he would do that. Job labeled an apple original film will distribute the movie theatrically. It's to be kind of similar. They'll have some. That's big for Apple. Gaup short they. They've not really made it. Land yet and like creative stuff is what I'm saying if content if apple's not involved in this you think that's a huge it no problem but with Apple's involvement. That's what makes me like. Yeah honestly the big selling point for me even more than Scorsese's to capture doing it isn't work. With with Scorsese and actually Waldheim. She was six seventy seven years ago. Now Yeah Twenty. Thirteen greater four hundred twelve or thirteen. Yeah and always with the morning show that because we talked about it so I think it was thirteen. They still load up There's still loaded art. What's come yeah? Cure Seattle goes hello in halted action on the two. So it's going to hate the title to. I'm hoping they changed debts. A book title Awful Title. So your title. What's up. Mutual Seven? It is you. What's best there is the best. There was the best there ever will be how you doing tonight. Let's say thank you. Did you happen to see my tweet yesterday up? Probably UNLIKE THE ANCHORMAN. I did not laughing. Tweet Mike side yeah he he he mentioned to me. I might have is that. What the the the comedy film you were. Writing to Steve Season on dog walk and the guy from Chicago mentioned to you when he interviewed you. Today Kirke Because he robinson he mentioned something from Anchorman about finishing second place and a hotdog eating competition. Competition Okay Yeah. Yeah Yeah I I. I remember in fact part of the anchorman movie which he quoted when he was talking on dog walk. It is the origination of the entire hotdog eating competition lie. No what I said was I meant. I meant it to be a like a self defeating self deprecating. Humor like that example. Yeah which was also finishing second place in meaning context by like you. We PM like tried to help the show. That's over enemy. Hold on Jesus Steve. You're he's trying to convince us that what happened to him in real life also happen to Anchorman Anchorman. I'm listening don't do. Don't you think it's a little odd that we've already established that I did in fact take place in that hot dog? Human that is that is true. He came out that came out. I'm thinking bef- The condos was before anchorman. Maybe just engineer this. Only that's true. Necessarily negative factors tried to pull a joke from anchorman. Steve Kirkman Magi. I think he doesn't and you won't admit it because it's a visual joke that you told the podcast. Jesus and a blind man. I mean it's a it's a theory but it's off. He may be by the truth of so fucking bored by the forty. My brought down the whole thing anchorman reference. But I don't really know I'm not quite sure what he's said. This caller is not not a great representation of the two of seven. We're struggling with these people. Trying TO BRING DOWN Steve. We need lead when you could be mean. You'll throw van. Yeah could happen all right. Hello Oh he did say. Yesterday I should have called him out on. He did refer to Joey as a successful friends. Spinoff JOE's okay. That was yeah. That was all right all right ticket. Easiest sorry didn't know it was positive beyond you to say that what's up. Fuck you again. You just down. That is true. Not everyone would know that. What a Flop Joey. What's known punchline flop right yeah? That sounds like Steve. Those that basic stuff. I think who knows some stuff like that? Wouldn't that's true that's true. That's interesting I got your night Boise. I'm not he was born. Hello good evening. Hello Hello Don on guys who? Who's that these people are? You know who is the guy that was on Mike and the fans? He was Puerto Rico when he was. Oh Yes yes. Yes yes yes. How's IT GOING BUDDY? How you doing but I have a question for Stephen. I remember recognition. Okay all right okay. And I'M GONNA give you three months off this a book and okay. As he rode west leave gays lingered from moment on an overturned case on dead horses collapsed around. It was still alive for like shatters. Longest working like a bellows. Then the earth was torn up from the previous things This up Steve. Yeah fortunately PK break. I mean that was real nice kid but Jesus. Pk In you got to have energy. You GotTa have urgency see saving. I'll say that Nice Kid. Jesus they'll get worked up about that right. Yeah Gasoline Dima. Oh the floor anytime. Call Him all right. Hello Hello God damn it. All right just whole segment on youtube absolutely pretty lively calls until sputtering here. Good evening or no is very angry. What's Royal Mo going boy? What's going on cookie cookie? Tom Very bad about que- creepy. I did ELMO. I'm sorry I didn't know you're on there. I am though and his celebrity friends just being happy to the simple people. That's true that's true. I think of it that way. In fact animal has been nominated and official cutbacks. Oh okay is that. Because I'm I'm so hairy I said and allow anyone to put it behind congratulations album. That's Nice Thank. You would like to talk to you hold on. I know this is going on now. Well maybe not. We'll see this is grover. Expect was not the comfort station today. I don't think I can make the of fiction with the crepe place while you were. There was who I was at the mayor. Marty wanted to use their unusual. What were you doing amendment? Isn't it a shame that he's doing nothing about this? Because you're not you're doing drugs. Are you grew probably talk? Talk this way I go to get my methadone grover okay. I'm recovery now. Thanks to the mayor. Marty Walsh from the Hem job urged. Great let's go ahead God. I'm sorry I went to answering questions. Kirk no thank you over. No I was just asking you can you? Can you describe the scene because we had the video? But you were on on. Cd describe what was going on. There drew people that were near and also you understand now and some people yes on learning. Guess grow right you understand. Thank you fast. Yeah that's a nice a nice lesson. Thank you grover. Yeah Grover Cookie Monster tour. What's that heavy petting and hugging was and he was very helpful. Seems the mayor was there? Yes that's great grover. Glad to hear that really put a stop to go over there you go. They stuck to grow very interesting. I wanted to more. Steve didn't see my gum-os usual calls. No well you know who knows hello. Hey what's up? Rover sounded like Pf t doing pat mahomes there. Oh yeah a little bit a little bit. Yes a little bit. What's up all right so Two things Number one current affairs number two cinema. Okay current affairs. Did you see Connecticut Board of Ed ruled in favor of the that I did see that. Yes I saw that the the no kidding the transgender. Yes the the the the born female my saying that correctly Steve Renault. So the the born biologic. No I'm saying the ones who have been tremendous sprinters who identify as women lost. Yes the the ones who were born female since from date. You know biologically Sued right and one. Yes yes well. Yeah well it was been court and this was actually like a board of ED era. Yep Board of ED decision so I think they saw the writing on the wall. It wasn't going to go good and court to for that. Common Sense Common Sense. Yeah I know I'm anthony cotton. Hey what's that number two common sense? Isn't that common? Oh all right all right. That's okay it's much. I watched the movie the they got no pub. I wanted to see if you solder even heard of it called pawn sacrifice. I don't think I've heard of that movie. Exactly that's what I'm trying to figure out star to guys too big stars. We'll relatively big tobey maguire. We've shriver the F Schreiber. Tony Myopic. They bio-pic of Oh I know I do. My Edward Zwick directed directed glory. The in a much of it was a couple years ago. I two or three years ago. Yeah Yeah on Hulu and I was like. Oh this might be good but yes. It was a good unless you wanted to see it now. I mean you would. You may like you know Steve like it. You know a lot of short Schreiber play Spassky. Whatever his name is the cast. Yeah Okay Yeah I'll give it another shot. I mean if you got nothing going on yeah thanks. Thanks for the recommendation. Tobey Maguire and Kevin Connolly and those guys that are tight with. Leo Aren't in more via movies. Yeah guards a good actor was going to say we'll talk was in the great gatsby worst movie in it. I mean yeah I mean I could see Kevin calling him on that being this movies. I guess just because they're tight. I'm surprised he hasn't been bone once or twice. That's a good question Yeah I don't know I mean if I could see Kevin me in the revenue. Nobody I could seem like wolf of Wall Street. Those guys complete meet heads saying no told me where. It's kind of almost semi-retired. No I made a lot of money spider. His wife I think is really rich. She's Ron Myers. Katie would be so married to basically ran Hollywood's done so well up Steve Their Solo now a few more. Hey what's up? I just became aware of this in the past Few days or so. I feel like you must. You must be in the know on it. But have you ever heard of Joe? Pepsi's rap song. I'm a wiseguy. Yes yes that just a rap song my friend. If you haven't heard the whole Al. Lot of music yes I have ever. Ah Tyrel guys fucking actors a football coach at the singer. You can do it all with all. Yes yes I yeah I just wanted to make a beautiful world even better than the very strange weird career red roses to very. I wanted to more good evening. Let's go six. Oh three Europe where it is who is seventy one zero seven eight one. I know what's up what's up on. Oh Nick from seventy okay. What's up buddy? How you doing mckearney? Yup what's going on nothing before and you WanNa talk about. I haven't talked to while everything. Good Yeah isn't that the shop a lot lately. Oh right yes. I mentioned this the other day you. You haven't been there you have. I have oh making. You're making some some good money or what some serious dough what's going on. I mean why is this such a? You know epidemic of bike repairs needed. Well these kids keep trying to steal a bikes. Yeah I figured that was the case. I mean you kid. Oh side to take our up this top. A bike the It's the hammer and HP okay yamahamana MHP. The name like never heard of it. I've not heard that one though. I have not go ahead to topple around kind of stuff turbo. Yeah of course yeah. Yeah Yeah. That's what me crazy Bob. Go Up our bikes okay. We know catching Donald Fifth Avenue. Let's just say that could knock bikes any more. Yeah well it seems like so. Yeah okay so what are you making you money though. This is a great way of money right there. I don't know we'll no bikes a shirt. Right yeah no I understand. I understand but you always need some money so you need money. Yeah I move on my apartment. You lenders money's that what you're saying. Oh no I'm getting plenty of money from the shop and from a Barstool but okay his last night. Wait a minute about what he really upset that. I'm calling in the show now. Oh I was. I was wondering about that because I haven't heard from K be that much so I mean you don't I mean always keep a little advice. I mean once you send them. Hey listen I like the show. You like the show when we we can like the show together. So do you want all to himself for that? You can move out of party in the spotlight. You GonNa move out of your apartment and choose us over him. I mean what would you do no I well I mean a is your best friend is your bro. I mean I've known him since I was about soil. Okay I mean I try. I would try and work it out. I would not give up yet. Don't move out right now. Trying to fix it. I mean I wrote him a letter but oh you have the letter. They're not have the air I don't want him to get sure. But do you remember anything particular any of the contents that might stand out? I don't really want to say it's on air. Yeah sure no. I understand say next week maybe on Monday. We'll talk to you then right all right nickel talk you well. It's interesting he's doing okay yeah he's not getting KP. I didn't want to try to like cause some shit there but I mean I think he's been big time us a little bit in the sense to Burmese. Busy must be tired to Jesus. Christ must be exhausted hot the last few days. That's tough work. When this is all over I would love to do a life of the parody with that guy. I really want to interview the real guy because I'm not allowed to talk about two people right from barstool right so I couldn't talk to cycle resolve. Resolve your beef with Portnoy and maybe you can have that conversation. That's all work towards this last call. I hope hello there so load up the House. Do and good night active. Hello Lundberg yes I I apologize because I would assume you probably already be shit out of him for this. But I've been really busy and I put up my twitter and I saw a tweet very first one and I just stared at it for a while do you. Would you mind if I addressed it real quick? Who's The tweeter you are? Oh go ahead. Steve is wrong with you. Pat Ben Atar you born forty seven years old turns out pat guy or a girl. We know that my daughter my daughter is fifteen and she knows who pet cars. How is it possible? Congratulations winter what what. What did you I mean I defend you out. I yelled at by Kirk because of you. And how is it possible? You'll feel silly when you realize growing up was Steve. Sir You at that Knows Steve. New The music of Pentatonic. Who is this? Who I you defense to do. I know this I even know. I O five seven zero area. Okay yes go ahead continue anything else. Well I'm just I I would love to see if somebody could come up with. I mean somebody comes up with like mix tapes or something that he made as a as a teenager. I just WanNa see what their workday no. No I've never. I've never represented myself as a musical person. He said he listened to talk. Radio News Rush. Br called rush oranges. I mean I think it'd be a lot a lot more embarrassing if I put myself out there. Some kind of musical expert. That's true you're right. It was a funny line. That's all it made me laugh. Funny Guy Funny Guy. All right last call go particularly corrine. Cigarettes seem kind of stamina. Stick landing crazy Bob. What's going on? I JUST WANNA call 'cause I know a lot of control of the sea with Steve and I was sitting in a hotdog eating contest. We'll provide some clarity. That'd be wonderful Bob. What are you offering us? I was the judge if let's see rocks and let the day okay. What what year was that Crazy Bob two eight thousand eight okay. So go ahead okay. Stevie with a you disagree ending so far no okay. I mean. It's nice to hear him. Excellent Good Bob Cole. Correctly he was hollering are concerned. That handsome Selah finished in first and then that debt amateur Ralph learn dependent the gentleman bomb finishing second interesting four hotdogs. Steve any comment I that runs contrary to John. The bombs memory. You know and and mine as well it just. I don't think that happened. I do appreciate how quickly you've adopted the southern accent after moving to Florida though Bob Bob. Let me ask you a question Bob. Curry's what makes you crazy. His low though smoking cigarettes since our true what was the rosy Robinson Reputation Steve Robinson's reputation in dexter understand. That ball is going pound down since he was fifteen. True Pinot Kirk. Who else is good at stuff in how dogs in the House Matt Carrano? Elba US. Oh this is a new even call number. That's laughing Stevia and see number. What'S GOING ON MR. Give Mizzou Gear. You feel like you are your pranks around you. He's a man I'd like to have fun. Runs into Carrie blood if you know what I'm saying it's really fun. Okay skipped generation. I've been I've been trying to call all week. You talk about my son's performance in the five K. Good continue yes. I don't know if you you know I called you Mike. And if you've seen the video fallen out there on twitter when spoken trying to motivate my child I'd give you that yes. I did hear that. They're not doing all the work. And what's Ted Doing? He's doing here. Always doing to lay back and let the word be done for. Us highs. Oh God yes no no know I was just GonNa make sure Mike have held bring that welders and asked him a little well in DC masturbation. Box you've gotta time it should. We'll thank you definitely. That'd be loves us. All that's nice. I really thought that was crazy. But his best I yeah what did you say so far? I mean we all thought it was crazy Bob Dole when they asked that question the question. I should immediately know the answer. That's where that's where it's on all right. Well again simplisafe dot com slash kirk free shipping and a sixty day money back guarantee. Tommy John Dot com slash Kirk. Twenty five percents off your order. I mean I'm only. I'm curious if this story has any legs though we'll find out next few days but who knows I can also let people know. Milton's is doing curbside pickup and goods off their stores. So that kind of under the heavy hand of Charlie Baker. They're finally starting to get get back. Look good you sort of millions dot com. Yes twenty five percent off store-wide com Greg Stohr Store pickup. We'll see you. We'll talk to you. This was pretty reprehensible I. I don't know how it can be anybody's idea of humor.

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