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Steve Scalise thinks he knows who'll be the next House Speaker

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49:52 min | 2 years ago

Steve Scalise thinks he knows who'll be the next House Speaker

"As the historic midterms heat up and NBC has you covered with our road warriors on the ground and Steve Kornacki at the big board for mornings with Joe and Mika to evenings with Chris, Chris, Rachel, Lawrence, and Brian make sense of the midterms all fall on MSNBC here with me for my maiden voyage on the off message podcast is none other than the most on message politician, perhaps in Washington DC the Representative of Louisiana's first congressional district and the house majority whip. Steve Scalise Mr.. Scully's welcome to the program sham. Great to be with you. Congratulations. And hopefully this this launches you into, you're going to be like a household name all across the country. Let's hope so. Welcome to off-message. I'm Tim Alberta. It's a real privilege to take over the hosting duties for this podcast, and I promise I won't screw up too badly as the chief political correspondent. For politico magazine. I am tasked with writing deep nuanced unhurried feature stories and to do that. I have lots of deep new. Onced unhurried conversations with sources and subjects along the way. Some of the salty language in sports Gosper side. I'm confident that those interviews will translate nicely to this new medium and don't worry. We'll try to keep the f. bombs and box scores to a bare minimum. Ultimately, it's my hope to broaden the mission of off message and take these conversations in a new direction focusing not just on the newsmakers themselves, but on the people who elect them Washington is hopelessly disconnected from the rest of America. And one way to bridge that gap is to make sure we're listening to voters, not just talking to them. Stay tuned for more on that front for now. However, with just weeks until the mid term elections, a potential pivot point for the country politically. And otherwise I wanted to bring you an interview with someone who's future hinges on the results of November. The sixth, someone who has become a household name for reasons they never expected and someone who could potentially become the next speaker of the house that someone is congressman, Steve Scalise. It's. A bit of an ironic beginning to my off message tenure as Scalise is quite possibly the most on message politician. I have ever covered someone who's every word is wrapped in caution and calculation. That's especially true these days having a stabbed himself as a top Lieutenant in Donald Trump's Republican party and with a potential promotion looming after the midterm elections Scalise can't afford to alienate any Republicans on either end of Pennsylvania Avenue. I, I got to know Scalise lease in two thousand twelve when he won an upset victory to become chairman of the Republican study committee, which for decades had served as home base for the conservative movement on Capitol Hill that is before the line house, freedom caucus spun off into a smaller more ideologically charged unit. I will never forget a member of then speaker, John bainer staff predicting to me back then that Scalise would end up climbing his way into the House Republican leadership ranks. It wasn't that Scalise was the sharpest policy mind or the smoothest talker or the most telegenic fellow on Capitol Hill. What made him stand out was his organization and his discipline and sure enough within a few years Scalise was elected, majority whip. The third ranking member of the House Republican leadership with speaker Paul, Ryan now retiring Scalise is poised to move into the position of majority leader. And if Kevin McCarthy can't corral the votes needed to replace Ryan Scalise will be the odds on favourite to become the speaker of the house. That is, if Republicans can keep the house majority a dubious proposition at best. Of course, Steve Scalise is noteworthy for other reasons. He was nearly killed last summer when a gunman opened fire at the Republican congressional baseball teams practice hemorrhaging so much blood that doctors believed he was within moments of death when he arrived at the hospital after months of surgeries and physical therapy and grueling rehabilitation, ska lease received a hero's, welcome last September when he returned to Capitol Hill for the first time. It was one of the few feel good moments we've had in Washington in recent years. I sat down with Scalise in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, where he was set to headline of fundraiser for one of his fellow members of congress. I wanted to start our conversation by talking about his continued recovery from the shooting, but there was a more timely matter he wanted to discuss. So we were just talking about drew Brees quarterback for your beloved New Orleans, Saints Peres the all time, passing yards record in the NFL on Monday night. And it turns out you're at the game at the Superdome Monday night as the saints dismantled the Washington Redskins. So here's my question for you. Obviously, that's once in a lifetime experience, you were there with your son. You got to share that with him drew Brees is a guy who's undersized, not the biggest arm always sort of been overlooked and certainly at the expense of the bigger names like Tom Brady and Aaron Rodgers Peyton Manning, who would you say is the drew Brees of the United States? Congress, who is a guy who gets none of the attention, none of the acclaim, but very quietly is one of the superstars in that building. I would say after me, of course, but it was it what a special night and just I'll answer your question a second, but I, like you said, I did get to take my nine year old son Harrison to the game in. And it's only second NFL game and he gets to watch real history. I mean, it drew Brees passing both Brett farve in then just about another thirty yards later pass Peyton Manning to become the all time. Passing leader would would have special moment and in he probably doesn't realize as much now how big of a deal it is. But later he will enjoy is such a wonderful person in the community does so much back home. I, I would say, you know what I mean? This has a personal touch for me, but I would say congressman Brad Wennstroem from Ohio, just a a hard worker kind of understated. You don't see him on national press a lot of, but I didn't know so many of the things in his background until he literally saved my life after the shooting. And he doesn't in a humble way, you wouldn't know talking to him just all the things. I mean, he served in Iraq save so many lives there as a combat surgeon is Dr by trade and then ultimately decided to run for congress just because he, you know, he wanted to help people. And he just works hard. He just got on the ways and means committee and wasn't the the first pick or the, you know, the person expected to get on the ways and means committee when he when he got that open seat. And and so I, I would say in a lot of ways he he's got that real unassuming humble, but just servant leader type of personality. And by the way for listeners acclimating to my hosting style, you're going to have to get used to a little bit of sports, talk at the top and we'll I can't keep my sand. I didn't answer your question because you did you bought yourself a little bit of time, but Brad win strip as the drew Brees have congress. I'm sure he'll be honored. So let me turn serious for a minute. Just past the one year Mark of your return to congress. Following the assassination attempt the shooting at the baseball field in Alexandria, Virginia, during the congressional baseball practice. Obviously, you came very close to death and then you return very triumphantly in September. Twenty seventeen was very emotional scene for everybody involved in congress. I wonder. As you look back on that entire episode has anything given you a different perspective with the distance you now have from it? Well, it was just just to be able to go back to work with such an unbelievably special feeling and emotional for me. I mean, you know the emotions of going through the rehab and learning how to walk again and wondering if I was even going to be able to do some of those basic things like walking or going back to work, and then it'd be able to do it. But when I came back, I do think one of the things I realized pretty quickly afterwards is that my national profile had risen tremendously gave me the ability. I think to help convey the messages that have always conveyed to a much broader audience nationally. And I think I realized that you know, when I would maybe give speech on something or send out a press release, all of a sudden more and more people were covering it because they knew who was from the shooting your household. All of. Yeah. So you know, I it it does. I think give you heightened awareness that you have a higher platform in and you have an ability to use that for good. Obviously, we think mostly about post traumatic stress as it would relate to the military or two police officers, law enforcement things of that nature. I'm wondering, do you find yourself experiencing any sort of post traumatic stress? Are there loud noises that that that will frighten you? Do you find yourself different in any way because of that experience in any sort of mental or physical way? Thank God. I really don't. And I think a lot of that has to do with the support structure around me, my family, my friends, you know, in those months, I was in the hospital. I was in the hospital for three and a half months, and you have a lot of time to reflect on things, but also to talk through those things. And you know, I talked to my security detail day, Bailey and crystal Greiner who were both my to capitol police security detail officers who were with me that day and who saved all of us. I mean, true heroes that. That not only saved my life, but saved the lives of all the other people that were on that ball field that morning and they were both shot themselves. And so you know, as crystal was going through the rough rough rehabilitation, she went through with a, you know, a pretty devastating moon. She had to our ankle. He just blew through her ankle. Dave had an injury to his foot that he he worked through and he's back one hundred percent on my team, and I'm glad to have him crystals. Not quite one hundred percent, but almost there. And we talked a lot in the hospital about each of our experiences because I, I'm laying on the field. I couldn't really. I never saw the shooter. I didn't see all the perspectives that they saw an, you know, they're in the middle of a gun battle and and ultimately took down shooter when they were heavily outgunned, you know, in exhibiting incredible bravery, but we talk through our different experiences and emotions, and I think help that helped me resolve at a lot and going back out to the ball field when I when I got better and was able to get to. Charged from the hospital. I wanted not long after to get back to the ball field just to go by myself with actually with David Bailey. And you know, we went back to second base and just kind of he showed me where the shooter was because again, I never saw the shooter and he did. So he was showing me where the shooter was. You know, we're looking at first base where he's in a gunfight with the shooter, and he standing, you just kind of isolated on an island at first base with no protection in the shooter's kinda Haydn pigeonhole behind the cinderblock dugout behind third base, and you just thinking yourself this special person that would put their life at risk to save me and everybody else out there. And so just to see that and kinda confront it, go back out to the baseball field and play again with my colleagues and try out for my position at second base and ultimately be able to go play the year the year anniversary of the shooting. They held the game again at at national ballpark and to be able to walk. Out there on that ball field a year later, while would what a special moment in a moment that really helps you look back and go look, how far we've come and a lot hard work went into it, but you you kind of confront all the demons. And to me, fortunately, been able to exorcise those demons by just facing them head on and working through not only walk out there on that field but field the very first ball of the game. You're, you're in its second base and you've got some assistance out on the field and the first play of the game, the first ball that's put into place hit right to you at second base, which by the way, nothing is supposed to happen by the way when to right handers are up nothing supposed to come to second base in the whole time. You know, I'd gone to a few practices once I was able to get back out there and you know when they were hitting ground balls to me, I could get everything that came right to me, right. You know, unfortunately in baseball, the balls don't come right to you. So if Roger Williams who's our our our coach, if he would hit a ball, maybe like. In two feet to my left or. Right? I couldn't get to it. I just didn't have the lateral mobility. And so I've worked my physical therapist and then I go for the game and you know think it was more symbolic that they let me start is a nice gesture, but it's like, okay, Scalise. We're gonna put you out there for a couple of batters and then we're taking out in the game. And I was just worried I didn't want to hurt the team and I'm standing there. And literally the very first pitch Mark Walker throws the first pitch will Ruez a democrat from California was the batter and he just cracks thing. I mean comes right toward second base, really hard ball, and I'm thinking to myself, you've gotta be kidding. I mean, you didn't get the memo. You're supposed to leave me alone. But anyway, so said Kibble now I've got to try to make the play. I mean, it wasn't that far from me. It was a little too my right. So I go down and backhanded the ball and my momentum takes me to the ground. And luckily I, you know, as kind of fell to one knee, I caught the ball backhanded with my glove. So at that point, said not better, make the throw, and I could see him running down the first baseline. So pull the ball out and a made the throw and sure enough, you know, boom, throw him out and the whole place goes while and right out of the corner mossy Jeff Dunkin who's playing shortstop, come running towards me. And the first thing I think of as I better get up or something dog. And so I get up and wow, I mean, just a moment euphoria. I mean, I think for all of us, it was like, wow, look how far we've come. We've we've gone from day where could have been the worst tragedy may be employable history for for members of congress, at least two a day of euphoria that we, you know, we Ribble look this in the eye and you know the bad guys didn't win sure some catharsis. Now, I know you don't want to be defined by that event. So you back in the saddle now back to work energetic, trying to whip the votes. Now we should stay for the listeners to make clear that whip is not just a noun. It is often a verb. Your job is to to whip the vote to try and get your members in line to try and figure out what the count is in in my question for you, having covered the House Republican leadership for many years, it strikes me that your job has to be a hell of a lot easier now with Donald Trump in the White House, then it was, but the democrat in the White House because a lot of your more conservative members were were much trickier to get in line. And when it was having them to side with John bainer or just with Paul, Ryan, but now with Donald Trump in the White House, he is such an imposing force. It seems like a lot of these guys are easier to bring under your wing. How would you? How would you describe the difference between whipping votes under democratic ministration versus whipping, votes with Donald Trump is president. I, it's one hundred and eighty degree difference, and a lot of ways it still is not easy. I wish just because we got a Republican president ever Republican automatically supports the Bill. A doesn't quite work that way, but that's the fun part of the job. I mean to me, you know, every whip is different. Every whip has a different style. If you look back throughout history, my styles always been more of a coalition builder. And so when we're doing things like repeal and replace of ObamaCare, the President Trump was strongly supportive of the Bill, but yet we had a lot of work to build that coalition because there were a lot of Republicans that weren't for the Bill pretty vocally in some cases until we got the final version of the Bill. And ultimately they were changes, and my job was to pull them together and say, okay, what? What else do we need to do to get the Bill put in a way where you could support it, but also where those changes that you want don't take away from the votes we already have. And that's the real tricky part. I mean, everybody's got their own ideas that might sound great to them. But if you're great idea brings you five votes in an exchange, you lose ten votes. It's not a good idea. It's got to be a net positive to the Bill if you're building a coalition and especially, you don't have any Democrats. You know, my job is to work with the speaker and the majority leader to make sure that we get the votes there to to pass the Bill in the past good policy. And I think we pass some really important good policy working with President Trump and he's been very good about working with congress, you know? And I see a different side of then maybe a lot of other people get to see. But I see a guy who's very focused on wanting to get big things done for the country, not just to put a skin on the wall, but to help the middle class have more money in their. To create more jobs to rebuild industries. And I think that's the ultimate test is you know, alternately or people better off now than they were two years ago in this case. And clearly the answer is, yes. Now the house freedom caucus had for several years been sort of the primary intraparty opposition. Some of the members were the toughest for you guys to get on on any number of different votes. And what's really striking to me is that for years, some of these members even before they formed the freedom caucus, there was once an entity known as the Republican study committee, which the chairman still the strongest and most vocal conservative wing of the of the party before they're before. There was fifty members Republican study committee. If you think about some of the prominent alumni now who chaired that group, you had Mike Pence vice president United States. You have Steve squeeze house, majority whip. You have Tom Price who if he had used Expedia dot com would still be the secretary of health and human services, who am I missing? Jim Georgia, Jim Jordan, owning chairman of the house. Linked to financial sort of writing. So and it strikes me that you have Dila strong influence in our car, or you have any number of the largest group and block of members in our conference vary infill argest, caucusing, commerce Walker's coming off of a really good tenures chairman. So I think you know, again, I want to see a strong chairman continue to to stay in that position because I think there's still a really important place for the Republican study committee, and it's it's really the the bedrock and foundation of the conservative movement and congress. The fact that the house freedom caucus wound up spinning off from the Republican study committee spoke to this dynamic you had within the Republican party really from twenty ten to twenty sixteen in which there was, you know, we we read, and in my case, we wrote ad nauseam about the Republican civil war and a lot of the ideological brinksmanship that was occurring within the Republican party. And it seems as though Donald Trump's first has his nomination as the Republican presidential nominee, but then his general election victory has. Fraud, tencent purposes, sort of squashed those old ideological beasts within the Republican party. And now rather than conservative versus moderate or tea party versus establishment. The divide within the Republican party today seems to be Trump or never Trump. Are you with the president or you're not with the president? Is that fair from where you're sitting? I, it's not. It's not the entire picture, but it definitely shows you that now the President Trump's in place, we have a president. We can work with look President Obama didn't wanna work with anyone in Congress, Republican or democrat. I mean, you talked to Democrats in leadership and various caucuses within their conference and say, how many times did President Obama bring y'all down in the White House? And most of them will tell you really hardly ever Shirley on the Republican side. We didn't see that, but a lot of Democrats didn't see either. And so we have a President Donald Trump who wants to work with congress. He's prog Republicans and Democrats to the White House in the freedom caucus. I think what you're seeing is, you know, they're, they're working to try to figure. About how they can be as offensive as possible with the president who wants to work with them as well. And so while the democrat party is having, I think the internal civil war that you were referencing on the Republican side are aren't terminal differences seem to get magnified more in the press on the democrat side. There is a lot of internal angst right now about who they are, what they're going to be because they really don't have an agenda. If you look right now, they're just against Trump in which you're describing a party that is organized around opposition to a sitting president is how many folks would have described the Republican party circa, you know, away to sixteen certainly John Boehner and Eric cantor look back and say, you know, as a party. So much of our organization was was routed just in our opposition to the president rather than having sort of coherent forward-looking vision for what we should be as a party in a seems. Now that to your point, not only have the tables turn, but it seems as though Donald Trump's presidency has fallen tents and purposes, sort of stopped that internal bleeding and the Republican. It is sort of pushed aside some of those old divisions, and I wonder, is this in your opinion, Donald Trump's Republican party right now period? Full stop. Clearly. He's the leader of our party and he's showing a direction that is the direction of people elected him to move forward on promises kept is a real important thing in politics in when Donald Trump ran for office. He ran Saint very specific things and he's actually fighting to do all of those things for the people that he committed. He would do those things for in the highest profile, obviously has been the supreme court, but look at what he's done. He put a list out. You could say that that when the Gorsuch pick came, it was probably the best person that was on the list in with cavenaugh. You've got another great Justice that's on the on the court. Now that is, is going to be the kind of the kind of Justice that the president said. He would pick people that actually believe in the constitution. It was written and interpreted that way too. Don't go there to be legislators on the bench and. That's why he was elected. Do you see Trump as a legacy figure the kind of president who will durably if not semi permanently reshape the party in his image like Reagan did and the country and look, there are a lot of there are a lot of similarities in policy between Donald Trump and Ronald Reagan. I mean, it's very much a Reaganesque conservative agenda. If you look at it clearly their styles are different. But at the same time in in the end, you're going to be judged on your results. Look at the results. Starting with the economy. You've got one of the strongest economies was ever seen. And now as you're seeing the president confront some of the underpinning trade problems that this country has cut bad deal after bad deal, he's actually cutting better deals for America. Once we get through the trade negotiations that are going on, I think you're gonna see this economy take off even more. So you talk with a lot of conservatives though. I do, and I'm sure you do as well who will acknowledge all of those accomplishments and who will embrace of the media to to. But folks who will admit to being very impressed with with what the president has done in these first two years, but who in the next breath will still express a great deal of uneasiness with him. You talked a minute ago about style, which seems to be code for some of his rhetoric and some of his behavior. Is there anything about the president that makes you on easy? Oregon, more direct way of asking the question which you know some folks have been asked and will continue to be asked, I would assume for the duration of his presidency is you have young children. Do you view President Trump has a role model for your children? I I will. I think he is a role model in the ways that he's actually following through on his promises. One of the things that people don't like about politicians are the people that go out and make promises and have no intention of keeping them. And unfortunately, there are a lot of examples of that Donald Trump promised very specific things. He was criticized for saying, we're going to build the wall. We're still working. I voted to help build the wall and to put the money in place. Obviously, we don't have enough votes. You have to do that. That's one of those things. Hasn't been done like repeal and replace of ObamaCare that we need to go back to. We need to help the president deliver on that promise, but the president's done his part. And so I think that's an important thing to be able to point. So you know what? Here's a person who ran for the office of president, the highest office in land and he promised. He would do these things and he's actually doing and our economy is getting better. My kids now have a better chance at the American dream than they did when Barack Obama was president. Because if you look today, I mean kids that are graduating from college today actually have jobs they can go get. They didn't have that a few years ago. So big pivot point in the Trump presidency will be the midterm elections, and we are just a few weeks out. And I'm curious from where you're sitting today from the conversations you have at the party committees, the numbers that you look at, what percentage chance do you give Republicans of holding onto the house of representatives? I would give over fifty percent chance. But clearly there are a lot of races that are tight. I mean, it's gonna be a long night. Prob. Really because there are a lot of elections that are going to be fifty fifty races. And if you look today versus two weeks ago, Republicans are much better position because I think mama momentum's going our way. I think people are excited that we now have another Justice on the supreme court, and they got to watch the Democrats literally implode and it just go off the rails trying to destroy a Justice cavenaugh. You feel better about your odds of keeping the house today than you did before the on controversy erupted, I think it really concerned a lot of people the way it was handled by the Democrats the way they tried to make it purely political and personal and tried to destroy man's life, whether he deserve to have it destroyed or not. I think people weren't easy about that and then you add on top of that that the economy continues to grow and that people's lives are better in. This is where Nancy Pelosi in her message. She wants to be speaker. Again. She literally said for everybody that's out there. They gotta. Thousand dollar bonus. Are that seeing more money real money in their paycheck today in their utility, bills are going down because we cut taxes. She called that crumbs don't go anywhere. We will be right back after this quick break. As the roads at the historic two thousand eighteen midterms heats up MSNBC has you covered from now through election day with our road warriors reporting on the issues at stake from every corner of America and Steve Kornacki breaking down the numbers at the big board from mornings with Joe and Mika to evenings with Chris, Chris, Rachel, Lawrence, and Brian makes sense of the midterms all fall on MSNBC. Now if Republicans to hold the house, I think the assumption is that it would be by a relatively small margin, right? If Democrats were to pick up, you know, seventeen to twenty votes. They would fall just short of taking back. The majority you would be in control by very small margin of haute. If that is the case, discover McCarthy, the current majority leader does he have the votes lined up to become speaker? I think Kevin would have the votes. I mean, if you look at it in the end, we've got to hold the majority I and then it's gonna probably be a small majority. I don't think anybody's trying to make any delusions about that. But at the same time I still think we hold the majority and there have been smaller majorities. There was a five vote majority that Republicans had back in the early two thousands, and they managed to get some important things done too. So you can have a functioning majority even if it's smaller and just to be clear Republicans were to hold the majority you do not plan to run against Kevin McCarthy, four speaker. Now I've been very clear. I'm not running against Kevin. Supporting Kevin, and ultimately we need to make sure we're focused right now on hold in the house and we are, and if the house is held by a narrow majority of Republicans do have that narrow majority you were just talking about, boy, I have to think back to John bainer, having a cushion of thirty plus votes Paul, Ryan having a cushion of twenty. Some odd votes in how miserable their lives were as speaker who the hell wants to be speaker of the house with a three or four five seat cushion. That just seems like an impossible. It's already impossible job made all the more impossible who in the right mind would want that job. It's always a tough job. No matter who's speaker, no matter what the time is just like president is being a tough job because you're always going to have tough decisions to make the speaker of the house is the is the leader of the house, not just of his party in the house. And so ultimately the direction of the house is headed by the speaker, and you don't get to just make easy decisions. They're tough decisions. You have to make every day to. And so that's why you see that job. There's a long shelf life for it, no matter who's holding it. But during that period, you had the ability to have a major impact on the direction of our country. Any positive way, talk about post traumatic stress. You and I have both spoken with John bainer since he retired. He seems a lot better place. He was whistling zippy doodo the other day I think on YouTube and just to close the loop on this. If for whatever reason, Kevin McCarthy was unable to have the votes to become speaker for publicans hold the house at that point, are you prepared to step in and throw your hat in the ring to become speaker? Look, I think we're getting ahead of ourselves. Obviously keep in the house right now is my top priority and they'll be time for the races and who's going to run for what. But I've been very clear from the beginning. My focus is on keeping the house. That's why I'm traveling around helping members in tough districts raise money. I just transferred another million dollars from my campaign account into the NRCS's last week so that we have the tools. We need to compete against democrat machine where you've got the. Likes of Michael Bloomberg one person alone, putting about one hundred million dollars of his own money in place to flip the house from Republican democrat, you've got style out there putting about one hundred million in place to flip the house so that he can impeach Donald Trump. There's big money out there. We need to be focused on what's at hand, otherwise will be in the minority wondering about what we could have been as opposed to saying, let's focus get the job done. And in a couple of weeks, we can start figuring out who wants to be chairman of what and titles can be handed out later on messages always now purely hypothetical here. But if you're Donald Trump and you are going to run for reelection at twenty twenty. I've talked with some folks at the White House who've noodled on this idea. Isn't there a part of you that thinks you would rather have a democratic majority for the next two years because they give you not only the ideal foil, but as you were just, you know, perhaps for shadowing a moment ago, they would spend that two years attacking the president, potentially overreaching and helping him. Him in his reelection. 'cause if you're going to have a very narrow Republican majority, why wouldn't you just as soon have a narrow or even a not so narrow, democratic majority that helps the president and provides him with the foil and the opposition. He needs to energize the conservative base that rallies around him heading into twenty twenty. Clearly, I've heard some of those same kind of ideas that people try to percolate about what would be better wouldn't, and there's two sides of that argument, but, but it really kind of think discounts who Donald Trump is Donald Trump's, a person who wants to get stuff done, he didn't run to play politics. He ran a shakeup Washington, but more importantly to get this country back on track. So the country I think is now finally headed in the right direction, and the president knows if Nancy Pelosi speaker, the Democrats take the house number one, all of the good progress that we've made in two short years is over. You're at a status quo from their on because their agenda is going to be to resist to. Delayed drag cabinet secretaries into hearings every week to stop them from unraveling all these radical regulations at Barack Obama put in place that were killing manufacturing jobs in America. All that's over and it's going to be testimonies. It's going to be subpoenas, it's going to be impeachment. I mean, they will move to impeachment. Some democrat leaders have already started to indicate that. So what would impeachment look like? Yeah, maybe that might mobilize the country against Democrats. But in the meantime, what a mess that would be for our country and and what a impediment that would be to all the progress we've made to help families that were struggling for years. The president doesn't want to see that President Trump wants to keep this progress going that all ends of Nancy Pelosi speaker. No. You've been very few sive in your praise for President Trump, and I'm interested to know if there private conversations you ever have with him in which you will know. We read in here a lot about folks in the administration. Other leaders on Capitol Hill members of congress, who he has relationships with who will sort of work him privately and talked to him about maybe maybe check yourself here or maybe don't go quite so far. They're trying to sort of rain him in a little bit. Do you ever feel the need to have those conversations with him? Look anybody who talks to the president wants to talk to them, not just about the things that are happening today about about the things that we want to do tomorrow, and you know, he might want to do it this way. And you know, we want to do it a different way. We start talking through how to get to the same place and we've been able to do that. Well, if you look at trade, I think he's been real clear about explaining why he's doing what he's doing on tariffs. I'm a free trade guy. I don't wanna see a trade war, but with the president made clear as look trust me on this negotiator, we've got some leverage in tariffs aren't something that he wants. He went to Europe and said, we'll drop all of our tariffs. If you drop yours, he doesn't want tariffs, but you noticed a lot of European countries said, wait a minute. We wanna keep our tariffs. You just drop yours. It was a one-sided deal with a lot of countries and we had been taken advantage of even by friends of ours. And at some point it's it's not healthy for any relationship. If one friend is doing all the work and the other is just taken. And so he's, I think, equalizing a lot of that, but he but we talk through what is the endgame. I think it's important to know if he's doing something that maybe we would do differently. Why is he doing? He's explained it? Well, I think he's, he's been really good at trying to be very upfront about us with the strategies that he's using an in. Frankly, it's hard to to argue with the results. The results are actually working for America. So what is the endgame for the trade war specifically? Because if you talked to Republicans in those rust belt states, you were mentioning earlier. I mean, look, Michigan, Ohio. Vania we're seeing it. You're, you're looking Republicans are looking at a potential wipe out in those rust belt states that Trump was able to flip in two thousand sixteen. You're looking at a bunch of statewide offices that have been held by Republicans all flipping to democratic control. And when you talk to folks in those states in the Republican party, they will point to the tariffs as reason one why they are struggling right now heading into the midterm elections. So what is the endgame? We're already starting to see the end game and it started in Mexico of all places. I mean, think of all the rhetoric you saw between Donald Trump and the president of Mexico and the former president of Mexico. I mean, it had gotten pretty ugly, and then you look at his his comments back and forth with the prime minister of Canada. You know, he and Trudeau went at it for a while and very publicly. And you know, some people said, oh, this isn't how it should be done. We'll guess what all the years that the big diplomats who go to Paris and drink wine and talk and foreign languages in by the way America was getting their lunch, eat, enduring all of those fancy conversations. President Trump maybe rubbed. A few elbows sharply a, but in the end he got a better deal for America and that's what people wanted to see. And so I think a lot of people were happy when they saw Mexico, I come on and then Canada was still trying to push back and they realized that we were going to be going forward if President Trump brought us a deal with Mexico and Canada didn't want to be part of it, they would have been left out and you saw it. They didn't want to be left out. And so ultimately they agreed to better terms for America, but these are allies of ours. What about Jason? But I mean, Europe, there are a lot of European allies and friends of ours that we don't have deals with either. There are a lot of Asian friends of ours that we don't have deals with President Trump is working to get more and more deals. And then if you keep isolating and isolating against China, we're negotiating with China to they just happen to be the worst offender in the world. And everybody else knows that they cheat, they steal, I p they don't play by the rules even if you've got us tablist rules with them, no dispute resolutions. So how about we isolate. All of the pressure of not just the US economy, but of all the world's economy against China. They will have no choice, but to finally come around and if they do, it will be good for the entire world. It'll be great for America, but it's going to be great for our friends to what if they don't have, China doesn't blink well, then they're going to be isolated. I mean, look, if these other countries want to keep up barriers, make it hard for Americans to sell our products over there, and they don't have any trouble by the way selling their products here in America. So it's a one way relationship that's not fair trade. That's not free trade. So I want free trade, but that means both sides should be winners in the agreement. It shouldn't be a deal where you walk away happy and the other person walks away angry. That's not good for anybody because you never going to deal with that person again. Now own close by talking a little bit about our political climate nationally. We look at Donald Trump as being the epicenter of this hyper polarized political environment that we're living in. But the truth is that Donald Trump in many ways is more. A consequence than a. 'cause you've had this polarization tracing back to the Clinton administration? Certainly the latter half of the Clinton administration, much of the George W Bush administration, much of the Barack Obama administration. So now Donald Trump is in the middle of it, and it seems to be getting worse. Your friend, Jeff, flake, lex to talk about the fever and the fever is going to break at some point. He likes to say, and I have to wonder myself, is this really a fever or has the body just adjusted to this higher temperature? Do you see this as a fever that is going to break or is this the new normal? Well, we've seen for years that this is a very divided country just election after election. It's been going back and forth, but it's been divisions of beginning higher. The swing voters as as a percentage of the country have been getting smaller. So people kind of get more polarized into whatever corner they're picking. And then ultimately, there's a lot less room in the middle where elections are ultimately decided you look at it in the house. I mean, the house was probably the best. Reflection of where the country is. You know, we hold the majority today. We know how many seats are in a battleground right now. I mean, there's probably a good forty to forty five house seats that could go either way right now if you look at polling now, I think momentum's going our way right now, and I think the economy's a big part of it. But at the same time, you see the division within our country when you just look at all of these, all of these seats that are the swing districts around the country, and it reflects in the house of representatives too. So, you know, I, I don't know if if Donald Trump, I don't think he's the reason why we're a divided country. He came into a divided country as a president, making some very specific promises about fixing some of the problems that were causing the division, but Trump certainly met the moment in a way my exploiting some of those divisions in playing on some of the divides. Some of the warfare, ideologically class warfare, identity politics. He exploited. A those things and was able to win the presidency because of it. And I wonder if you look, you know, ten to twenty years down the road. Will we be looking back on this as just sort of a hiccup where, again, you know, the fever got a little bit of high and then eventually came down or because of the polarizing forces of talk radio and cable news and social media. That seemed to drive us further and further into our respective echo chambers as Americans. Do you see this getting worse? If you were king for a day, what? How, what made you? What magic wand would you wave to try and remedy this? Why do think that if you look at our country, we've gone through different pendulum swings where you know you the country's never been completely unified in the sense that I mean after September. Eleventh, you saw a real unification where people came together and there've been inflection points like that. But I mean, you can even look when when George H W Bush was president right after the Gulf war, he was at a ninety. One percent pop. Larry and just a few years later, he was not president. He was voted out of office, so the country moves around depending on what's happening in the in the country at the time. And I don't think that's going to change. I think what's important is, are we confronting the problems that the countries facing today which are different than they? Were you go, look, I mean, I, I have an office in my office suite in the in the capital in the whips office that ABRAHAM LINCOLN used to sit in. I mean, he does a fireplace, right? Where ABRAHAM LINCOLN used to sit. That's now part of my office just think of the problems he had to confront a. He chose to finally take on the one big scar of the US constitution, and that was never resolved slavery. And he said, I'm going to do something about it. It's time we ended and he ultimately gave his life for we were divided nation back then much more divided than we are today. Sure there's divisions today, but then you can look at different pieces and parts of our history over time where we were even more. Divided, you know, maybe you can find times where we were less divided, but even then it might not have lasted long. So ultimately, when you, I think what's most important is how you express those disagreements. I think the civility is one of the things I'm concerned about. You talked about Hillary Clinton, Hillary Clinton just earlier this week was almost encouraging some of the violence you're seeing against against people based on their political views. Her quote unquote was already to. You cannot be civil with a political party that wants to destroy what you stand for. That was traditional place for that. And that wasn't Donald Trump. That was Hillary Clinton. And I think you start seeing why Donald Trump was elected, not her. That's not what this country's about this country is not about choosing when you're going to be civil, and when you're going to be, you know, violent, I mean, there's no place for violence in our political discourse. You can absolutely disagree with people, but you can't pick and choose. Who you're going to obey in terms of laws. I mean, you know if the laws are on the books today, you can't say, well, we're going to resist ignore the law today because we don't like the person in the White House. We don't get that luxury. That's not what elective Representative democracy is about. We actually get to pick our leaders, but the day after Barack Obama was no longer President, Donald Trump was president and they had a peaceful transition of handing off power. That's how our country's always worked. It's not saying, you know, we're going to go and resist tomorrow because we don't agree with this person. So we're just going to ignore the fact that the president, you don't get that opportunity. And it seems as though Hillary Clinton is attempting to channel some of some of the passion, some of the outrage among her supporters. Maybe she's mounting a comeback. The candidate in two thousand twenty. I somehow doubt that, but just as Donald Trump in two thousand sixteen at multiple rallies, talked about all pay your legal bills. If you smack this guy around, if you punch that guy in the face seeming quite clearly to be. Inciting some violence at his own rallies. And this is where I ask as a man who was in response to people who were paid the people that were paid to go and beat up some tunnel Trump supporters. You know, clearly you didn't wanna see go there, but it went there because they were paying people to go in and attack people at Donald Trump. Rallies crew, you would agree. And I asked this to a man who who was again, who was shot and who very nearly died. You would agree that there is no party or ideological tribe right now that has a monopoly on some of the insanity that we are witnessing in our political system. Look after after the shooting at that baseball field, I was in the halls of congress for the following few days and for about seventy two hours. There was this kun-bae atmosphere where everybody talked about. We're gonna come together and we're going to bring down the rhetoric and we're going to, we're going to calm things down here, but then it went right back to normal after those seventy two hours. And I just wonder, is it really going to take another tragedy of that magnitude for us to become reflective again on how we can try to get this thing back on the. Rails. I really hope it doesn't, but I've been very vocal recently that I'm concerned about the rhetoric on one side of the aisle. I mean, look, you can say, all you want, gee whiz. It's going around everywhere, but it's not. You don't see this coming from the right when Barack Obama was president. There are a lot of his policies that I disagree with that a lot of Republicans disagreed with, but threatening him threatening harass his cabinet members threatening his life was never acceptable in any of us on our side would speak out just as people on the left would have something like that happen. I am real concerned about the radio silence when somebody on the left threatens violence against someone on the right and it's happening over and over again. It's not a quibble. It's not happening on both sides. It's happening on the left against people on the right and it's well documented in. It's gotta, stop and leaders on both sides need a call it out. Now, one of the reasons it seems as though congress and our political system were broadly is incapable of tackling some of these. Bigger existential essential challenges is that you have a lack a fundamental lack of relationships now across the aisle, the way that you used to have and might sound nostalgic and a little bit a little bit corny. But you listen to some of the old timers talk about how Republicans Democrats used to go to dinner together every night and how they really knew one another. Now you have a very close friend across the aisle, Cedric Richmond from Louisiana. You guys go back to your days in the state house together in Louisiana and Cedric Richmond, not only a democrat, but a very progressive democrat and the chairman of the Congressional Black caucus. I wonder when you look around congress today, do you worry about the lack of cross? I'll cross party relationship building and there's something that can be done, not just in the abstract, but something tangible, something concrete that can be done to encourage more of those relationships. More of those personal friendships that may transcend the ideological or the partisan. I'd like to see more of it and you know that Cedric is relationship goes back to. Our days in the state house where you would still have ideological differences with people. But afterwards you would go out to dinner with your friends and new friends you would. You would run into people. You didn't know when you get to know him better and and you'd build real relationships. And while we on the Republican side and the Democrats on their side, do a lot of things together individually, I think it would be healthy for us to do more things pick almost like a buddy system. You know, go pick somebody on the democrat side. We all will work with people on the democrat side. Go pick some of the, you really have a lot in common with personally, you might not have politically and just get to know them better. And I think that would be it would be better to really understand where the other side's coming from, and it's not going to change your philosophy, but at least you way of dealing with them because I do think the most important thing is, I mean, friends sit around their own kitchen table and husbands and wives don't agree with each other on every issue a, but they don't call each other names and throw things at each other either. And that's why you're able to have a dialogue and get through it. And I think we need to do more of that because the more you get to know somebody at least while you can respect their differences, you're not going to demonize them because of their differences. And I think that's what what really is at at heart here is respect people's differences because that's what makes our country great and rich in special and unique is that we can express differences. We settle them at the ballot box and then we move on. All right. I'll get you out of here on this. Another democrat who you've become friendly with you telling me James Carville the raging Cajun from Louisiana, the fame, democratic political consultant. And before we went on the air, you've shared with me your James Carville impersonation little mind, and I hope hope you'll be generous enough to share it with our listeners, a risk of ending my political career ask lease. You'll you good out down a Republican side, but you guys all wrong. At least you root for the LSU Tigers like me. But boy, when are you guys going to finally get it right? Why don't y'all just get more money to the poor. People and why don't you just create more welfare lease. And with that ladies and gentlemen, all apologies to James Carville. No, that was that was pretty good. That was pretty good. He's quite the character beco-. Well, I will. I will make sure to call him for comment before this goes. 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Trump's Loyal WHIP

Skullduggery

56:50 min | 1 year ago

Trump's Loyal WHIP

"Early on the morning of June fourteenth two thousand seventeen Steve Scalise was practising for the annual congressional baseball game. Republicans versus Democrats when a crazed gunman armed to the teeth opened fire on him and his teammates school is was badly wounded his life only saved by two. Geraldo ick police officers who took out the shooter who's a shocking event, a brazen attack on members of congress and earn Scalise sympathy and prayers from across the aisle, while he recovered in the hospital to make me feel like it wasn't just me. But the whole country had been shot at I would get to see a nation unified to see different people from all different backgrounds brooding, and praying, and working for me to survive. Scalise road in a book about the experience entitled back in the game. Now two years later, Scalise house minority whip number two in the GOP leadership during a period. Washington seems more divide. Added than ever how to school you square the lot. The bipartisan sentiments expressed in his book with the current state of all out political warfare on Capitol Hill. And how does he explain the unyielding loyalty that he and his GOP colleagues have for President Trump, no matter how divisive his rhetoric and his policies will ask Elise? And we'll talk to one of our Yahoo news colleagues Jenna mcglaughlin about our big scoop about a US cyber attack on ran on this episode of skulduggery. Because people have gotta know whether or not their president's I'm not a crook told the American people, I did not create arms hostile my heart and my best intentions, still tell me. That's true. But the facts and the kill me, it is not. I did not have sexual relations with that one. There will be no lies. We will honor the American people with the truth, and nothing else. Michael gob chief investigative correspondent for Yahoo news, tan Kleinman editor and chief of Yahoo news. So we don't get a lot of Republicans to come on skulduggery. We ask for a lot of them much less a member of the Republican leadership in the house. So I think it's pretty cool that we got squeezed to come on this episode always helps when they're hawking book in their hawking a book, but we got some tough questions for him. Yeah. Look, you know, he wrote this book about the experience he had at the congressional baseball game when he's shot very severely. I mean really to, to an inch of his life, almost didn't survive. And this moment was a kind of a dark reflection of the highly polarized times that we live in kind of the extreme version of that kind of partisan, and we should point out that it was a left wing Bernie Sanders before. That's right. That's right. Deliberately wanted to fire on Republic rights. But his his takeaway in this. What he writes rates in the book, is that our common humanity. Transcends that kind of partisanship and everyone came together in this moment and save his life. Essentially, what we're gonna talk to him about is how that translates does not translate into politics in congress in the year two thousand a good week to do it. We have these appalling reports about conditions at the detention center in Texas that, you know, horrific photograph of the migrant with his daughter who drowned to death trying to cross the Rio Grande engine common humanity one would think that it would be that congress would come together at of common humanity trying to fix this problem. And as we talk they are still at loggerheads we're living in an age of dueling narratives or actually, you know, a single narrative in some ways with the poignant tragic story of, of this. Young man and his daughter Valeria. But, you know both sides blame the other for why it happened. And I think we're gonna talk about a couple of other things before we get to the interviews that reflect the same partisan divisions, right? Yeah. You talk about, like dueling, narratives look at the Russia story. Now we have the big break this week to learn that Robert Mueller is going to testify after all July seventeenth before both House Judiciary and house intelligence in response to a subpoena, he would not come unless there was a subpoena that required him to testify, and the big question is, what's he going to say that goes beyond the four corners of the report? And he's already said when he gave that press statement, a little while back that he will not go beyond the Muller report. So, you know, the Democrats have been saying it doesn't even matter if he does. If he just to hear his voice just to hear him talk about the president's conduct those laid out in that report, we'll have huge impact is actually was a nice line by Denny hat who's a democrat on the house intelligence committee, who said we have the sheet music. But we haven't heard the song yet. So their view is that once we hear the song that's going to have to say having watched Robert Muller testify. Sometimes I wouldn't call him a singer. Much less than entertaining. One already. See behind the, you know, in some of the stories Democrats on background or trying to tamp down expectation. Okay. So they've got to say this is a huge deal. This is what's going to break through, but privately I think they're nervous that it yet. Well, I'm skeptical like you are. But here a couple of ways in which I think this could have impact one is that this is going to be such a spectacle. There is going to be so much hype. They're going to be so many stories it's going to be wall to wall cable coverage probably for a week before it actually happens, if not more that means that a lot more Americans are going to actually, tune in huge numbers of Americans who have not really been paying all that much attention to what was in the mullahs report, let alone, having actually read it which, you know, is almost no one has actually read the report. So that's one thing that I could import the second thing is, it's not just Muller, who is going to be talking to the. House intelligence committee, and the House Judiciary committee might understanding is you're also going to have some members of Muller's team who will be interviewed not in public hearings. But behind the scenes that has not happened so far. We don't know where Andrew Weissmann, if, if he ends up talking to the house, intelligence committee, raise reports he's writing a book, which may make little hard for him to decline to answer questions. We hear Mr. Weisman. This is a four not a subpoena because we don't have subpoena power skulduggery yet. But this is a, a formal invitation for you to come on skulduggery talk. When you're ready. When you're gonna writing as lawyers say asked and answered I've asked he answered no. The lure of skulduggery a we, we will we will be there on the scene reporting on Muller's testimony, and we will be obviously doing skullduggery and, you know, we'll see we, we don't know, sometimes there are surprises in these in these hearings. And for one thing we may. There may be questions from the Republican side. They may go after Muller in ways that make you. Trump already has this week with this saying, Trump deleted the text messages of Peter Struck and Lisa page, those two agents, who were working the case, who were having a relationship and exchanging messages, very derisive about Trump himself. In fact, there's really no truth to what Trump said now they were having a hard time retrieving happy. I was having striving those, those text messages. But ultimately, they did nobody has provided any evidence. In fact, I'm not even aware that other than in conspiracy land. Fray. We'll be talking a little quieter. Skulduggery joint. That's coming soon your way. But I don't even know that anyone's hadn't even been any allegations that these texts were were destroyed Zillow by Muller. There were some missing tax, but the FBI was having a hard time retrieving but and this comes from a department at Justice inspector general report for some months ago, but there was no allegation that Muller had anything to do with the FBI's difficulty in return, so moving on and speaking of dueling, narratives, we have this week, also at actually, I think it broke late on Friday allegations of another woman who, who claims that she was sexually assaulted. Many have said raped June Carroll by from this has recounted an encounter, with Trump at department store, Bergdorf Goodman in New York City, in which nine hundred ninety six. Five or six in the dressing room, the two of them together about apparently she thought Trump was going to try on this pair of lingerie he thought she was going to try it on look. She comes across on TV as spontaneous and compelling. There are some questions that have been raised about her account starting with how did they both end up inside the dressing room. But that said given the multiple women now who have come forward and made very serious allegations this being, you know, probably the most serious of all at some point, you know, what does one do with the president has been so accused by so many women. I mean, you would think by now I don't know how many women there are who've come forward, but it's close to fifteen I think that you would be at critical mass, so that it would actually have real in. Pack but I think it just points up. You know, the thing that Trump said during the campaign, which is just that he could shoot someone on on Fifth Avenue. And, and it wouldn't matter because you know that forty percent or whatever it is of the country, they choose to believe what they wanna believe. They support Trump pretty much no matter what and ultimately, unless he's credibly accused of a crime, and it's an investigated. And you know, there's nothing there's nothing you can do in this incredibly divided. Steve Scalise about gene carols allegations, and see what he has to say if anything. But a couple of other quick things we just got the census decision from the supreme court, five four sending it back to the district court for more evidence gathering, exactly as predicted on skulduggery two weeks ago by Katie Barlow who of the, the words matter podcast duo. And she predict yes, she predicted exactly this. She said the chief Justice Roberts, if, if there's any opportunity to punt in her words, he would take it because this is a politically controversial case. It doesn't have to decide it he's not going to new information had emerged which raised a lot of questions about the Trump administration's position. And so the supreme court can't listen the appeals courts can't listen to new facts chief Justice Roberts with a majority. Fighting word, the liberals siding with the liberals sent it back to the trial, court further review. I think the, the really relevant issue, here, is that this case, probably won't be decided by the time the census questions have to be venture means that these citizen, ship question that the Trump administration wanted to be in the census most likely won't be in there. And you heard it I heard. I on skulduggery. All right. A lot to get to, including I want to start out with the new era of cyber warfare. And what we're learning from our Yahoo news colleague, so let's get right to it. We now have with us. Jenna, McLaughlin are Yahoo news colleague, national security. Correspondent Jenna, welcome back to skulduggery. Thanks for having me. You had a huge scoop the other day about the US cyber command launching a cyber strike against Iranian. Spy group. This was right after the Iranian attack on those oil, tankers, tell us exactly what you learned and who the target was. Sure. Absolutely is so well, as everybody was focused on the potential kinetic strike. What was actually happening is that President Trump authorized a cyber response? So the specific group that I was looking at the Iranian spy group. It was connected to the sea and for many years, they have been tasked with figuring out where ships are in the Gulf in the strait for moose. Obviously, that's a really important area massive amounts of the world's oil travels directly. Through that narrow path of water every single day and around has a huge strategic interest in knowing what's going on? So over the years, Iran cybercrime abilities are not quite as advanced as the US probably. But. Coming coming more advanced, yes, but they have some creative ways, perhaps learning these things, I wanna get into everybody. Let's talk about what happened absolately. So the decision was to retaliate against this specific group that had been tasked with supporting these ship attacks by gathering information. So the strike was able to directly target juicy make it more difficult for them to launch weapons at directly targeted their, their command and control systems. So we implanted mal wear inside launch systems used by. S group. Right. So this was the target here, the spy group was an actual military force of some kind. They were the ones that launched the attack on those tankers while they support it by providing the intelligence. This is like a cyber unit within the radian revolutionary guard goal. Yes. Yes. Maine kind of military force within a wrong wrong. Yes. I'm declared a terrorist group by the United States. Exactly. Right. Pretty recently. Yes. And how much do we know first of all, do we know that it was that it was a -ffective that it was actually a successful attack. So as a good question I think it's probably too soon to know for sure, particularly because it's you know, Iran can lie about that, by the way, it should point out that I was actually at a concert on Friday night when I see the Email that we had this story, and I'm reading it and I'm saying, wait a second. Is this does everyone have this is this exclusive emailed, your editor Washington bureau chief, Sharon Weinberger, and she said? Yep. Totally exclusive. And the reason I bring that up is because these cyber operations are among the most closely held secrets in the United States government. I mean, it's very hard to learn about a covert, cyber operation like this. So I know you're not going to reveal your sources here, but. Tell us a little bit about the kind of reporting tradecraft. How do you get a story like this? Sure. So you're right in saying that it's really difficult. And it doesn't happen that often especially if you're not, you know, the sort of designated person at the post of the times, but I think the process that I went through here is that I had been looking specifically at Runyon cyber capabilities because everybody was looking more at the ongoing conflict between the White House Pompeo Bolton looking at sort of those officials exchanging barbs. But I said, you know, I know more about the espionage side. I know more about the cyber side, salutes look at kind of which groups might have been paying attention there, and maybe that'll be relevant. It's really important point because I think he can sort of safely say that at this point whenever there is Connecticut. Actively as you mentioned for that is happening kind of overtly. There's also almost always going to be a cyber component. That's just where we are in warfare between nations and between nations and. On nation states. Absolutely. I mean twenty eight cyber command put out some sort of strategic vision document, which, you know, sounds like a load of DOD who but in reality, there were sort of declaring, you know, where here to stay, we are going to defend forward, which means we're going to be an adversary systems. We're going to be doing things and some of those are going to be visible. So President Trump himself approved this operation. Yes, this far as we know I didn't include that in my story. But that that was. They were following your story. They had to advance it. That was the detail that guy. But this is at the same time or roughly the same time that he's calling back, what was going to be the actual missile counter. Right. And as far as we knew that was all ready to go. So perhaps when he knew he had this option it sounded like doing something without actually bombing strikes me like this is the future of warfare. We forestall we do not launch. The actual missile strike. We do it through cyber. We do a cyber attack. And it seems to me that were entering an era where we either are seeing much more of this, or we're going to be seeing a lot more of this. I think that, that's probably accurate, Steiber command its most recent couple operations. I think have ultimately become public. So I think we will continue to see more of that. But there is. Isn't really an international kind of framework set of rules of the rain for how to deal with particularly ofensive cyber attacks and the offense and clearly we have an offensive capability. We haven't used it that much that I'm aware of. So that's part of what's relatively new here is going on the offense. I mean, I guess you could say it was a retaliatory strike. So defensive in that sense, but really this is about our offense of Cape. Well, when did you say Stuxnet kind of broke them? All right. I was gonna mention. What I was gonna mention I. Right. Oh, that was a operation. This is the military. But yes, it was a US offensive. Cyber strikes Wentz. Third and destructive capabilities. Exactly question involving the Iranians as well. So there is a there is already a long history of cyber conflict between the United States and Iran. What's the Iranian capability? We started talking about that before. Right. Absolutely. So I mean, funny, you mentioned stocks, not that was kind of the moment. A lot of folks, I spoke to pointed to where Ron woke up to this reality and said, hey, we need to get in game two. We need to, to bulk up our capabilities. So in this particular instance, their methods were pretty creative. One of their tactics was to create a bunch of different fake social media profiles pretend to be a really attractive woman who's seeking some contacts with some navy sailors sent him a Facebook message ask when his ships passing through the strait and there's actually a term for that the us. Honey potting only probably one of the oldest forms of, of tradecraft for spies. This is a kind of the digital version of honeypot talk about what is actually these accounts say, who was behind them and what? And what exactly was the tactic? Yeah. I mean, the tactic is just what it sounds like you create a fake, Facebook profile actually, in the story, we sort of explored, how that advanced over time, the original ones, where office a woman in a bikini sends a message to navy sailor asking about whereas ships, going to be being very straight-forward just get the information and go, and it's it's sort of advanced over time where maybe it's an attractive woman, but she's not into bikini. She starts to engage with you have real conversations. Maybe listen. We're sent for mation. Exactly. So has the navy taken steps to make sure it's sailors. Don't respond to fetching looking women reaching out to them on Facebook. Yeah. I mean. This. They're certainly aware of this. And as far as I can say have sort of taken measures to advise against it. But I mean what are you gonna do? Yes, I can see how it would be hard to police your sailors, when they get some of these messages. But the idea was, this is the way the Iranians kept track of one of the ways one of our ships were in the Persian Gulf. Exactly. Yeah. And where they were and for what purpose. Well, I mean typically the purposes if you want to attack you wanna know where those ships are going to be. I mean, it's, it's classic espionage, also, you wanna have situational awareness, you want to know who's passing through, if they might have, you know, dangerous intentions, if they might want attack you, but you also want to know exactly where that ships going to be in case you want to launch. So this was the cyber the, the digital Mata Hari, but the but the Iranians have also developed some more sophisticated techniques for tracking ships passing through the strait of or moves. Both military ships. Civilian talk about some of those, I think, maybe actually hacking into websites that so yes, you got it. Exactly. Right. The one of the methods that they've used as hacking into these ship tracking websites, so that they can gather that information. And then I think in your store, you also talk about our capability to, I didn't know existed. I didn't even know we had this capability of actually being able to redirect US drones so that they're able to implant code inside. US drones to actually change the coordinates ESO. I confirmed with multiple officials that Iranians are capable of GPS spoofing. So they can do that attack. And at least in the instance, in two thousand eleven when they redirected a US drone to their shores, they were able to sort of plug in other coordinates that the drone phoned home and traveled down to the shores, and they intercepted it, and got that information. And it's interesting in this instance, it's clear that they wanted to sort of send a message. That they were, you know, here to here to fight, because they decided to shoot the drone down, instead of intercepting it so about a week or so, before your story of the New York Times reported that there had been a cyber intrusion by cyber command into the Russian power grid. And that this was cited as a an example of a real ratcheting up by cyber command in their offensive operations. But they said that, that was not briefed to President Trump in part because they were US cyber ficials were concerned that if the president learned about it, he would shut down that operation because he did not want to retaliate against the Russians. This is seems to me a murky area now of what has to be directly approved by the president, and how much latitude in the alternative does cyber command to conduct these. Operations on their own. Absolutely. And I think that is continuing to be a really murky area with this story. I think it's sort of being contested by DOD. I'm not sure exactly what the issue is here. But in this instance, I think maybe we might be running into a difference of authority, potentially. If you are sort of laying the groundwork for a potential attack you're setting up command and control infrastructure so that you can gather information covertly, that's different than actually launching an attack, and those fall under different authorities. So if you're within an assay or cyber command, you would be able to sort of prepare for said attack without actually asking for proven to, to launch one. And I think that that's kind of more understood at least within the cyber community that there's an interest in camping out on foreign since I get that. But if you're the Russians, and you discover that s cyber command hackers have. Implanted mala wear in your power grid. You're gonna be pretty pissed off and might retaliate, correct potentially, right? So it seems to me that's the sort of action that there ought to be some civilian control and review of before it gets launched right. I mean, it's, it's really interesting. I last summer, President Trump revoked in a bam era. Thority PD, twenty one of these executive orders, DVD presidential. So Bama issued that in an effort to make sure that all of the stakeholders were at the table when sort of cyber operations were launched. You know, you've got treasury. You've got state, you've got all these different people who might have an interest in some of the negative repercussions of a cyber attack that maybe the head of cyber command wouldn't know about or wouldn't think about and a lot of people complain that that was really cumbersome. You know, it took forever to get anything done. But Trump went in the other direction and just totally scrapped that and made it a lot easier at the time a couple of officials sort of told me that the gloves are off. It's going to be a lot easier to do things without telling out towing, the White House. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. And that was, I think froze intention, he did this not just in the cyber arena, but he also did it drones as well, the Obama administration had this very careful vetting process, similar to what you just described all the different stakeholders. They had these big. Civics meetings, where they all debated the law, and, you know, all these complicated questions and Trump wanted to send those authorities back to the commanders in the field, but here's an interesting. I think it's an important issue on cyber, because a lot of people think that these cyber attacks are kind of quivalent of Atari game or something that it's not kind of its virtual warfare. But the reality Jenna, isn't it that cyber attacks can translate into physical attacks and civilians, can die many civilians condi-. If you play it out, for example, shut down the grid you shut hospitals. Get shut down. I mean this, this could have huge physical effects. Right. And something that Trump apparently wanted to avoid. Yeah. I mean these scenarios have sort of been played out, but are starting to enter reality just a couple weeks ago. The city of Baltimore was ransomware and they needed to pay. Back that money in order to get control of their systems. You know, imagine that on a hospital their rations can't work. You just back to the authorities question here. The president has relaxed the authorities given cyber command more latitude to conduct these on their own. How about reporting to the intelligence committees on the hill. It's a great question. I think just in conversations around the newsroom, we've been asking the same one saying, how do the committees, and the members of this committee feel about how much information they're receiving on. Within it, it seems like some of the members of the defense committees have been saying. You know, we're a little bit concerned that we're missing out on a couple of things. I think that that was mentioned in some of the language of the NBA, Sean Naylor is talking about that. That's the defense offer. Yeah, it's, it's the money for communities, under the jurisdiction of the Pentagon, exactly. But it does appear that we're entering this new era wild wild west era of cyber warfare, in, which, we're giving the military more power to conduct these operations on their own these operations or becoming more robust. And we don't really have a handle on how much we're doing do we not really? It's, it's a pretty open space, without not that much information there to understand, where the lines are, how this applies to sort of existing standards. I mean it's funny actually I was just in stone. And they're the only ones that have been really thinking this want to ask you about that. But before we get to that, because you went on a very interesting trip to a number of European countries who've been dealing with this threat, somebody's longer than we have I wanted to ask you, why there is so much secrecy, shrouding this issue, and occurs to me that it may have to do with the fact that we're such a interconnected world. We're extremely vulnerable to these kinds of attacks. So the more what we're doing authencity exposed the harder. It is it will be to, to defend ourselves. Absolutely not only the US, one of the most connected countries out there. I think we also just have all this technology. That's very unsecured. We have so many things that are plugged into who knows what the voting. And let's talk about that for a second because you recently came back from the reporting trip to let's see Finland stealing Holland and Sweden and Sweden, and you were looking at cyber defense in those countries, and in particular you were as a lot of questions about defending against intrusions interference in elections. And let's talk about the Stony because Estonia in some ways, was the patient zero a satellite country of the Soviet Union, and then broke away and the Russians were not very happy with the Estonians, and I think it was under Vladamir Putin. They essentially shut down the country of Stony with a massive cyberattack seven. So what did you learn from the Estonians about what the Russians are capable of now? And how we can defend ourselves against the kinds of attack that we experienced in two thousand sixteen a whole lot. So we'll have a story coming out about that as well for people to read. But when I was in a Sony, I was there for the. Lanark Maria conference. And there were a lot of top officials to interview the former president, the defense minister, the head of their essentially BI, and they did talk a fair amount about defending elections. It was the week of the EU parliamentary elections Estonia, and what's interesting in, in a Sony, is that they have the option to vote online. They're the only ones that have really kind of fully gone for this effort to go online. And there are a lot of cybersecurity experts who say that that's inherently vulnerable. You know, people go in their computers, their cell phones. I think it's only computer desktops for, for the boating option who knows if it's infected by malware, who knows if a grandma has clicked the link and who knows. But I think what the Estonians feel is that they've had this for a long time. They have a really well established system. They thought about security at the offset. They understand these Wilner abilities. And because they have this digital ID that is connected. Its end end encrypted. It uses. They all have like a license essentially that's digital ID and they can use that all. Yes. Social pretty hard. Yeah. It's fascinating. It's fascinating. They can order prescription drugs, they can vote. They can do anything. I western. Thing every day, then. Giannis yahu news track coughing. So the funny thing there is if a government employee or anyone that access to your card axes it, there's a log, so you can see every single person in exactly why that they said that they need your information. So that is kind of a check that makes people more comfortable with it. I think, well, this is all fascinating stuff. And it is murky, which is why it's very good. We have Jenna keeping track of it for us. So try. Good work, keep up and come back and tell us more about what you find happy to. Learn the business principles that have made Disney global leader in customer experience. For over thirty years. Disney institute has helped business organizations. Learn that Disney approach. They don't just tell you what works for them. They introduce you to another mode of thinking. Learn more at Disney institute dot com. We now have with us, Louisiana. Congressman Steve Scalise house minority whip congressman welcome to skulduggery get to be with you. Thanks, right. So you are back on the baseball field last night. Yeah. We we had the game last night. And, and you guys got clobbered. Well, you once again, as bad as last year, actually, it was fourteen to seven as say closer than the score. Look. But it was it was good competitive game for the night and winded up raising about one point three million dollars for local charities, and always really fun to be able to help a lot of the youth groups boys and girls. Right. And all that we had over ten thousand people to house, a raucous crowd at nationals at national stadium national stick into play in the big league ball. Right. Take that loss is a bad omen for twenty twenty we'll get it out of our system. Now. Next year than have at this, everybody, remembers two years ago, the horrific events when you were shot practicing for the game. And you wrote this book back in the game about that experience and one of the things that left out at me that you wrote in the book was how that experience seemed to bring people together said it to make me feel like it wasn't just me, but the whole country had been shot at I would get to see a nation unified and struck me because we are on Capitol Hill in a congress where you seem more divided than ever. How is it that you haven't been able to translate, those bipartisan, sentiments you expressed in the book into what's going on here day today on Capitol Hill. You know, it's a rough and tumble town. I mean, especially now it is a divided nation. You don't our country's been at points like this periodically throughout our history, and this is one of the more divided ones, but it also showed that even in times like that we can come together when it's something that that's really important that we need to unify behind in it meant a lot. I saw it. I mean, it wasn't just people strangers that were praying for me and rooting for all of us to, to come back, but it was world leader, some would say that the immigration crisis right now to pick a eating example, is something that congress ought to be able to come together on. And I do think that's something we will eventually come together on. I wish it was sooner rather than later, I know in December the president offered an opportunity to resolve the DACA problem. And so far we haven't gotten to get that done. We need to we need to keep working at it, you know, but. There are a lot of other things that we pass in this town that, that are very bipartisan. They just don't get a lot of attention twenty-first-century cures. As a real, good example of a Bill. We passed and was Republicans Democrats coming together to put real money in the National Institute of health to solve major diseases one day, I think we're gonna find major cures for diseases like cancer and Alzheimer's. But it doesn't get a lot of attention because the big immigration or health care, and peach mint battles, or the things they get most of the attention. And that's unfortunate be nice. If we could come together a lot more things like US MCA a real opportunities. The new trade deal with Mexico and Canada, where we have an opportunity to come together, do something even the labor unions supported business group support it. So it is something that can unite us. And our friends Canada wants to get this done Mexico, just just ratified it. So hopefully that's another example in in like to see us do it sooner rather than later. But are there any lessons that you specific lessons that you drew? From that experience on the baseball field, and everyone coming together in that very difficult moment that you personally are applying in politics, and as a legislator, there are, and I've always felt you, you shouldn't make your differences with people personal. We all have disagreements with our friends with our spouses. You don't try to undermine somebody's integrity. Because they disagree with you. You talk through, you might not be able to resolve it. But then you move onto the next thing where you're in agreement in a pure. I think we need to focus on that more because yes, we do have disagreements. It's what makes our country great where he will express his disagreements. But sometimes when you see people going after each other personally or inciting violence, there's no place for that. And I think just us focusing on the policy differences, but working through, and finding common ground. There is a lot more common ground than people realize in, if we work on that in building real relationships, where if you've got a real relationship with somebody, it's going to be less likely you're going to try to go and deny. Them personally, when you disagree with them, you, you hopefully find more areas of common ground by building relationships. Have you done to broker a compromise on immigration on this Bill? That's going to be voted on soon after we, we have this podcast on funding for the humanitarian crisis at the borough. Did you specifically done to broker compromise? What I've been doing is trying to get the facts out about how important this is because a lot of people aren't, even aware. There's this crisis at the border whereby next week. If we don't solve it, there's an agency within health and human services that will go into a government shutdown, which means federal workers will have to go to work by law, but without pay their border patrol agents right now that are buying diapers for these young kids coming across our border out of their own pocket because the agency ran out of money, a lot of people aren't aware of that. And I think just getting the facts out so that everybody can put their guard down. Sure we're going to disagree on the wall funding asylum loopholes that need to be closed. This isn't about that this is about just making sure that the kids that are coming across. The border in many cases that are being abused along that journey are going to be able to be taken care of in America. While we're trying to resolve what happens to the people that broke the law. Your reaction to seeing that horrific photograph of Oscar Ramirez drowned with his daughter trying to enter the country. It shows you that we got to send a message to the rest of the world that we are still a great nation of immigrants. We are unopened country to immigrants. We let over a million people year into our country legally way more than any other country in the world. And yet, we're nation of laws that are not being properly enforced. There are a lot of loopholes. Mexico's even told us many of the people that are coming across their border from the southern part of Mexico into Mexico, ultimately to the United States are coming because our asylum laws are so broken that it's a magnet that are drawn people here illegally so that they're making those dangerous journeys, there many people that are getting not only that die on the journey there being raped a lot of young women. These gotta get back to the rule of law so that people understand how America's immigration system where these are desperate people living in a region. Guatemala Honduras of horrible, violence, and economic deprivation. And yet. President Trump has threatened to cut off funding for those countries. The Senate Bill that has just passed, which I gather you're going to support has no funding for those Central American countries and the house Bill does shouldn't we be working to try to improve conditions down there? So these people don't feel the need to come into the United States. Well, the first thing we have to do is secure our border in America, and it did not need to have funding to help these countries. What President Trump saying, as we're giving relief to foreign countries. We shouldn't be number one giving money to foreign countries who use money against us in. We're trying to focus better on that. But even with some of the Central American countries, many of these people that are coming across the border, they're coming into Mexico in Mexico is offering them asylum. So if they're so concerned about their own country that they're fleeing their country. The reason you have. Silom laws is to say if your life is in jeopardy, you need a place where you can go Mexico saying, we'll take you and we'll let you work in our country and yet, they're saying, no to that. And then they go on this dangerous trek into America because our asylum laws are so broken that they think there's just a free pass into America. We've got to get away from that we shouldn't be telling people that we don't even care about our own laws there over a million people year that we let in every year legally and there's millions more that are waiting in line. What do you say into those people that are trying to play by the rules to come to America, the right way that we're not going to be concerned about our current laws and somebody can just go jump ahead of you. If there's a country like water Malla, which they are, that have their own internal problems. Sure. We can try to help them fixed problems. But we have to fix our problems to, and why is it? That speaker Pelosi is willing to give more money to Guatemala, but not give money to our border patrol agents, who are working overtime American border patrol as us take care of them. I would you support funding for Tamala and Honduras? Well, we have money that we already give to those countries your house. Those countries to help us look, if we're sending money to countries, which we are billions of dollars to, to foreign countries shouldn't we at least say there's a problem in your country that is causing problems in America? Can you try to address it in think it's coming up on those countries, we ask Mexico, by the way to help us with this problem and the president had threatened some tariffs we didn't want to see it go to that? But ultimately Mexico said, you know what we will help you Wilson thousands of national guard troops to the Mexican southern border and you know what? It's actually had a positive impact. There's now about a twenty percent reduction just in last two weeks in people coming across Mexico southern border because they did that so working with countries to help us with the problems that we have in their countries. I think that's the way to approach it. Not just say, here's more money, but say how about you help us and work with us, and we'll be happy to have a better relationship with you congressman your ancestors came from Italy grant grants came from Sicily. In Columbia, maybe. Yeah. Palermo and Contessa enta- Lena beautiful country, beautiful place. And they were talion immigrants from that part of Italy. At that time, we're fleeing terrible, poverty, other terrible, hardships, actually, they ended up. They came pretty much directed Louisiana, right? You're right. Right, right. And some of the, the sugar cane rice farms in south, they worked in those fields and then ultimately moved to New Orleans, and there was a low fish doors anti Italian discrimination at that time, or even lynchings just wonder do you draw a direct line from your great grandparents came to this country fleeing economic hardship. Terrible, poverty, and other hardships to the man and his little daughter who died in the Rio Grande. And, and does that give you a particular empathy? Given the experience of your own great grandparents coming to this country. Sure. It does. You know, and you hate to see some of the problems that were. Seeing coming across the border from the deaths that were tragic to the rapes in the Uman trafficking. That is very real that comes across our border drug smuggling. What we've got to do is get back to a rule of law, where people know that this country is the greatest country in the history of the world. That's why people come here. They come here to seek freedom and to seek the American dream just like my grandparents did in that system, worked, a lot better back in those days in the nineteen twenties, that even worked recently, better for people at one come here. We've got to get back to a rule of law system where people feel like we do have a secure border, where we have control over our border, so that people know how to come here, the right way that they don't have to break the log onto life-threatening journey just to come here that they can follow regular laws with the president's talked about is things like the visa lottery, where we take fifty five thousand visas a year and just pluck names out of a hat randomly, instead of focusing on merit based system where people can know that those fifty. Five thousand visas are going to be there for them who want to come here legally to seek the American dream. What about the conditions in some of these facilities along the border where children have been saying there for many, many weeks without diapers in some cases, without the ability to take showers without toothbrushes pretty terrible conditions. I think it's a national disgrace. It's why President Trump called on speaker Pelosi over six weeks ago to solve that problem to send more money those agencies ran out of money weeks ago border patrol agents literally, you're paying out of their pocket to buy diapers for kids because they ran out of money, they'd be breaking the law, if they spend money they didn't have, so the president called on congress to solve the problem. Now, what speaker Pelosi done the last six weeks. I have no idea. I do know she hasn't tried to solve that problem and. Public inside. Or is it all on the democratic side since the president sent his request down? I do colloquy with the majority leader at the end of every week that week in weeks after I've brought the issue up over and over again. He's never disputed that the problem didn't exist. But he's never acknowledged that they would work with us to solve the problem to shouldn't wait until the midnight hour to solve a major problem like that where federal agency is literally run out of money to take care of young kids. They're getting over three hundred young kids a day, and they've called on congress to send more money because they're out of money. They're literally in a government shutdown. And for whatever reason, maybe they're too focused on impeachment of the president. This is a real problem Pelosi should've solved six weeks on a switch gears on that front Robert Muller's going to testify in few weeks. Have you read the report? I haven't read the entire thing there, some things that I'm not able to read because there are some classes public report. Yes, you have rented are their actions described in that report. Court by the president, particularly volume two that you find troubling the main thing I find troubling is that this was all about the accusation of collusion with Russia with the presidential campaign. By the way, based on the way partisan document, that was put together with Russian help, which which is real ironic in there were some real real bad, actors within the FBI, who had a partisan agenda that should never be the case on a discussing day, the motion, more very clearly. There was no collision that was part of the issue. The president hands Hans structured, his order to Don Mcgann to create a false document. His entreaty is order to Corey Lewandowski, to tell Jeff Sessions to restrict the investigation into his campaign. Let let's find any of that troubling thing that the president troubles if you'd like to know what troubles me, yes, what troubles me is that there was no obstruction by the president. They thought the president was going to try to shut the whole Muller investigation down. President Trump didn't they thought the president wasn't going to comply President Trump comply? There were over five hundred people that were witnesses that were brought into the mullahs. Reporter for thirty million dollars. He did not bring one single. Charge Muller had the opportunity if he saw collusion, or if he saw obstruction to bring charges against the president. He didn't bring one single charge. And so at some point, the American people are going when are you gonna move on to solving real problems, the committee of jurisdiction of the mullahs report right now where they're doing all of this impeachment drumbeat. That's the same committee that has jurisdiction over the border crisis, and they haven't done a thing about the border crisis because they're focusing on a Mullah report. They thought was going to yield some kind of collusion. There was no collusion. Why don't they move on and insult Roseman albums that people airbomb I understand that there are legitimate questions about the Muller investigation, and how Democrats panel this and maybe outrages in the views of many of your supporters, many Americans about some of this, but I guess the question is, is it completely binary is there anything that you would concede in terms of the president's behavior because that I think goes to this question that Mike asset the outset, which is, you know, you saw how people came to. Gather when you were shot you talk about wanting there to be bipartisanship. But don't you also have to make gestures in that direction? And part of that is not always being partisan warrior. Look, I've had disagreements with President Trump on different fronts. And I bring those issues to him, whether it's on trade policy tax policy, I helped put together that tax cut Bill. That's President Trump signature achievement when we were working in the house to put that together, we weren't always in sync with the White House, but we had a working relationship where we could sit down and work through those problems. And we came up with a Bill that has now put our economy on track to be one of the best hottest economies in the history of the world, where every single sector of our country's doing better lowest unemployment on my mum, African Americans and Hispanics in the history of our country. Women start on businesses are on uptick things that you would have wanted to see for decades. This is actually happening right now. And there's more good things we do. When I go around my district or around the country, people aren't saying they, they want. The president. They're saying they want their prescription drug prices lower. We passed a bipartisan Bill unanimously out of committee, the energy and commerce committee unanimously passed a Bill to lower drug prices in when it came to the floor. Instead of speaker Pelosi saying, hey, this is a great model for us to work with President Trump to Lord drug prices. She put a whole bunch of poison pill partisan amendments in and made it a partisan Bill. This was a Bill that passed unanimously we should be working on those kind of things lowering drug prices getting the economy, even hotter than it can be getting trade deals. US MCA our trade deal with Mexico and Canada should have been passed months ago. Why speaker Pelosi hasn't brought that to the floor? I don't know. Business groups want labor. Unions wanted Canada wants it. Mexico's already passed it speaker Pelosi won't even bring that to the floor all they're focused on right now is impeachment. And people are saying just focus on the problems of everyday Americans stop all of this partisanship. Congressman the former advice columnist Jean Carroll has come forward. And says that Donald Trump sexually assaulted her in a Bergdorf, Gordon dressing room in one thousand nine hundred five or one thousand nine hundred sixty seventy reason not to believe her. First of all the president's been very fatty that it didn't happen. The Anderson Cooper interview that she did is one of the most bizarre interviews of ever seen Anderson Cooper, went to commercial because it didn't even want her on the air anymore. So look, let's again, focus on real problems. You saw this win the cavenaugh hearing was going on by the end of the cavenaugh. Harry, there were people coming forward saying he was a gang rapist ludicrous, that were completely unfounded, by the way, and everybody realized that there have been multiple women who've come forward and described conduct by President Trump, that would be considered by anybody in appropriate at some point to you have to either believe that all of them or lying, or that there is the president's that you would. That's a little bit salacious to say there's all these accusations are. Well, acusations, shouldn't Darwin a country where you're innocent until proven guilty. A lot of let's see where this goes when you saw the cavenaugh hearing, I think the country really turned and said, hold on a second. This is enough where you literally try to search and destroy a person because you don't agree with their politics. Look, Donald Trump ran a campaign for president against Hillary Clinton, where the country knew what the differences are between both of the candidates, and the direction they wanted to take the country from immigration healthcare on down, and they elected Donald Trump clearly elected him. He was honestly duly elected president, no Russian interference. He didn't include with row. There was Terence conc- only by Russia, to interfere was win. Barack Obama was president Russia. Clearly tried to interfere. They didn't change a single vote in any voting machine, but they tried to interfere when Barack Obama was president. Why didn't President Obama do more to stop Russia from interfering? President Trump's working really hard right now with congress in some places. To stop Russia from being able to do it again. I wish speaker Pelosi would work closer with President Trump to stop Russian interference in future elections. Unlike what Barack Obama did when he was president again? Donald Trump was elected president to solve those problems. The people that didn't vote for him. I didn't support a lot of Brock Obama's policies. But once he was elected president. I worked with him on things. We could agree on like the twenty first century cures act. Probably one of the last bills at Barack Obama signed. So yes, you can disagree with people, but don't make it a personal hatred of him and try to seek and destroy them last every single day, shouldn't they'd be able to work with the president solve problems. If the house does vote to impeach President Trump, what will happen, what will be the reaction. I think they'll be a huge backlash to speaker Pelosi the country doesn't want it. There's been no, the high crimes and misdemeanors standard. There have been no formal charges brought against the president and all the accusations that they brought turned out to be baseless. Collusion was what it was all going. About they really thought there was gonna be collusion with Russia, and there was absolutely none. And instead of moving on they want impeachment, whether the facts, meet it or not, the standard should be in any kind of investigation. Follow the facts where they lead in, if it leads to nothing like the mullahs report, he didn't foul one single charge. He had the opportunity, he had over thirty million dollars of taxpayer money, and almost two years, and not one single charge. Now, do you I should Nadler still wanna impeach him? Even now that there are no charges shouldn't focus on the immigration crisis. His committee has jurisdiction over a national scandal, a national scandal, where kids aren't, even being given the basic healthcare needs. They have because the federal agency ran out of money in President Trump called on congress to give on the money. President Trump doesn't want this scandal to be going on. But he asked congress to appropriate money when he's out of money in Pirlo. See won't give the money. So that's on her right now. I don't want it to be there. I want her to work with the president to solve this problem and so many other problems. A lot of these. Problems are solvable. They're not look immigration. Sure, there's some big differences, but there are more than enough Republicans and Democrats who are ready to solve everything from the security at the border to the asylum loopholes to Dhaka, and, again, President Trump put doc on the table speaker Pelosi walked away from that in December. She needs to come back to the table in focus on these problems. Stop the personal assassination impeachment. Drumbeat, whether it's they're not, let's focus on real problems, and we can solve congressman. Thanks for joining us. Thank you get to be with you go get the book back in the game. It's a really good story about heroes, rainy. We need to see about heroes, a lot more in this country, and they're in, they're really rose out there. 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Whip It Good: Congressman Steve Scalise

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Whip It Good: Congressman Steve Scalise

"Three the major Garrett yes. CBS Yes i Major Garrett from the nation's capital major fantastic it's the takeout major with CBS News. Chief Washington correspondent better. That's nonsense major Gary. Welcome to the point of my broadcast. Week I major Garrett chief Washington correspondent. CBS News host and creator of this amazing easing program known as the takeout where dear listeners on podcast platforms viewers on CBS and our listeners. On nearly sixty radio stations around the country you know this show. It was two things each and every week. What are those two things? One relentlessly curious to steadfastly non ideological every point of view is welcome here. We take our our guest seriously. We don't take ourselves too seriously. This is a conversation. Not An interrogation always always built around me a why because meals changed the way people talk to each other and that's one of the reasons. The show exists our guest this week. Steve scalise representing the first district of the Great State of Louisiana. He also happens to be the second most powerful house. Republicans the House Minority Whip Steve scalise great to see you major. Great to be with you. Thank you for joining matchbox restaurant. We haven't been to before awards got pizza burgers other stuff on the menu. We'll get to lunch here just a second. We're delighted to be here. We thank them for their hospitality. Steve Steve is great. Great so Steve. I yes please. So let me just ask you. How is your health? How has the rehabilitation gone? Are there any lingering issues from the shooting. Twenty only seventeen Thanks for asking. Health is Great Still do physical therapy about twice a week and I had to relearn how to walk again just kind of reestablishing balanced silence to basic things. You take for granted standing up without falling over Had to work on all of that but You know in two thousand nineteen my. My New Year's resolution was to end twenty nineteen without having to use crutches anymore and Starting in January this year dropped the crutches. And it's been working so I can walk without crutches. Keep getting better all the time. I'm truly blessed and for anyone who's gone through physical therapy. It sounds like but sometimes it is really difficult. It is a hard process and you have to really work at. You've got to be committed to it. Yeah their their job is to push you to your limit you know. My job is to to go in there wanting to kind of get beaten up and you know and Bruce to the point where you are getting better and whatever you need to get better at you know for me. It's building strength back up especially in the left side of my body. That's where the bullet went in. And so I still got some lingering. You know muscle fatigue that it just doesn't build back as fast asked Got Some nerve damage that might be permanent in my left foot but at least on all the things that I can get better at it. It's working and so you know being able to walk without crutches is great. I'd love to be able to run one day but I'm not quite there yet. Hey Look we just keep getting better every day this a mile digression but You are almost the same age. I was born in sixty two year a couple years later than that. I have noticed just mentally as I've gotten older. I have this awareness of balance and being afraid to fall which has nothing to do with being injured. I'm not injured injured but I think as you get older you begin to worry about that. Just subconsciously creeps in. You've had this injury you've had this gunshot wound and the idea of stability is now crucial. Crucial in your life. Do you think about that even more again. You take so much for granted of what you do every day you know if you WANNA stand up and just take a leap over there. You can't do do that. And so just being able to stand up without falling over was tough and and so you had to learn balance again and then just give yourself benchmark you can bending down or leaning over to get something without fallen over. I couldn't do that a year ago. I can do that today and so you know you don't see it's not like day to day. You see major improvements but you do see see improvements over a few weeks where I couldn't do that just two or three weeks ago and that's Great Testament to our physical therapist. Katie does a great job. She you know she's tough. It's tough but fair right major tough but fair but no it really is you. You WanNa Walk Outta there going. Wow I'm wiped out right because that's how you know you're getting better. Do you looking back back on that event. Consider yourself a victim of some kind of ideological extremism. I really don't look at it that way. I don't want to be a victim. I consider myself self lucky to be alive. I know there were miracles. Happen on that ball field that day. If you look on paper and say what happened. The Guy shows up. Deranged lunatic whatever's intentions intentions were. That's you know that that's not something I want to focus on. But his intention was killing every Republican on the ball field and he would have been successful if not for the heroes and the miracles in La capital. Oh police I always great respect for law enforcement but if it wasn't for David Bailey Crystal Greiner the to Capitol police detail officers. Were with me that day. I wouldn't be here in a lot of my colleagues colleagues. Wouldn't be here because he would have been successful and they both got shot in the shootout and still kept going at it and ultimately took the shooter down and so you know I think about that. I think think about how lucky I am People Brad Winstrom if he wasn't on the ball field. Women Member of Congress Congressman from Ohio. Who is a medical doctor? And who was a combat surgeon in Iraq and his experiences in Iraq to steal with similar kind of gunshot wounds and get people to to the hospital safely. That was his job. He put a tourniquet on me that my trauma surgeon agents said I wouldn't have made it to the hospital. I didn't have minutes to live. I had maybe a minute to live when I showed up at the emergency room Almost almost dead in a few times that night he said I almost I didn't make it through So the the people the heroes that helped me get here That's what I think about an how lucky to be able to see my young kids every night. Why filter the away from that experience the motivation behind the shooter? Because it doesn't matter to me I mean you know. Nobody has an excuse to do that. Political violence is not acceptable. No matter or who you're Republican or Democrat. We settle our differences in America at the ballot box. And I'm not going to sit here and go well. Only this happened or that happened. Why do it? There's no reason for anybody doing it and so I really don't want to focus on that because frankly doesn't help me get better. I I had to put all of my energy especially in those first few months. I was in the hospital for three and a half blondes. I had to put every ounce of my energy getting better otherwise I wouldn't have been able to learn how to walk again. Do you have any anxiety that the politically toxic environment in our country is sowing a wing. The seats for more violence. I recently asked about that this week. Christopher Ray the FBI director testified to Congress that he is elevated racially motivated aided and other violent extremism an ideological nature to a national threat priority equal to Isis. I worry about it and I call it out wherever I see it on both sides you know if you see somebody inciting violence you ought to speak out against it because there's no excuse for that and so you know whether it's on the rise or not you know clearly. They're still threats threats that that I get and other colleagues of mine get death threats and you know it's a shame but you know we we ought to take them all serious and hopefully speak out against it so that people recognize denies. You can have disagreements with people politically. It's what makes our country great. You have a First Amendment right as a reporter individuals have that right but the right doesn't extend to threatening violence or carrying out your differences in a violent way at the top of this program. I mentioned lots of different. Political points of view are welcome at the show. Go back to the archives. You'll see that some some people on the show congressman said the president through his rhetoric intentionally or not aggravates. The situation. We're talking about agree or disagree. I disagree with that and you know look on the right. You don't see people going and trying to kill other people and I'm not saying it's something that the leftovers either but I. I am a little disappointed when I don't see both sides speaking out against political Michael Violence if somebody tries to target somebody with violence based on their political views. We all should be able to speak out against that uniformly and resolutely uniform Orlean resolutely so let me ask you a little bit about the Post State of the Union Atmosphere State of the Union speech unto itself but there was a post speech moment. That is getting a lot of attention. The speaker of the House. Nancy Pelosi quite visibly with an appears to be full intention. Tore up the president speech. Your reaction I thought it was disgraceful. It's becoming a speaker and look we were in the majority. When Barack Obama was president we had a lot of disagreements within politically? We had disagreements in some of the things he said in his State of the Union addresses. We sat down for those things. We didn't rip up the speech or try to act out with them by the way we said did you lie. Joe Wilson. I was sitting. Maybe six people away from Joe Joe walked out immediately and when called the White House to apologize to the president to his credit RAHM Emanuel's there. Yeah the president hadn't returned back from the White House but Rommel's chief of staff and Joe apologized personally to Rahm And ask them to pass that onto the president and Brahm accepted the apology. Joe Did the right thing by apologizing. Frankly Speaker Pelosi should apologize as well. Because it's not the the image she should want to portray as the speaker of the House. We're having lunch when you you get that order. So China is server. Hello China Please take Steve squeezes order. I didn't come to me. You will Like a great restaurant has great cheeseburgers here so l. You want the all American with the all American Burger no pickles snow on. Thank you bacon there. We go barbecue Bacon Cheddar cheese. You got it on there to please a medium. Thank you anti entitle. Have the Fried Chicken Cobb please the SAL but no No eggs but if you could throw some of those candidates who excellent thanks a major they got these great onion Nyan strings right. Sure that'd be great We've got we've ordered lunch. Segment one is over. Steve scalise is our guest back in just a second it it from CBS News. This is the takeout with Major Garrett. Welcome back I major get word matchbox. We've just put in our order for lunch. Steve scalise is our special guest. He is the second most powerful Republican in the House of Representatives. We were talking as went into break about speaker. Pelosi tearing up the President's State of the Union Union address. I want to read you something. Congress from United might not have seen this morning. Jerry Nadler who is the chairman of the House. Judiciary Committee was asked about this. I want to read the direct quote. I was delighted lighted. It was the least she could do. I mean the speech was lie after lie. Not a word of truth in it. Your reaction again disgraceful. Okay so what is the lie about this. Young girl who now is going to have an opportunity to get her child at the American dream because she's going to get an opportunity. Scholarship are that soldier that is announced surprises. His wife and kids coming. Home after four deployments everybody's tearing up I mean I guess Jerry Nadler wasn't did he think that was a lie. The tuskegee airmen who who president just made a general look rush limbaugh. Who whether you agree with or disagree with the Guy I love what rush represents but millions of people are inspired by him and now he's battling cancer and the president pays tribute to his battle with cancer and they can't stand up for any of those things I mean? I is about our state of politics. I think it says a lot about where the Democrat Party in Washington is. That's not where Democrats are across the country. Like I'm from the State of Louisiana where the blue dog started. There are still Democrats who have those. Oh same conservative values. That conservative just won re election as governor right and so it shows not all of America is so hyper partisan in their hatred of the the president and the results of the two thousand sixteen election that they carry it to a level where they won't even stand when the president applauds the success of the lowest unemployment amongst African Americans and Hispanics Hispanics in the history of our country. Everybody should have stood for that. I guess Jerry Nadler's not happy about that. He can't deny it's a fact The these economic numbers were seeing Major. Major we have the hottest economy in the world right now the USMC trade deal. Jerry Nadler voted for that. Is that a lie that he voted for me. What is wrong with these people that they wanted to knife facts and what's good about the country if they can't applaud the killing of a terrorist? Sola money does Jerry. Nadler really think it's a lie that Sola Monte killed hundreds of Americans our servicemen and women who shed their blood because of him and he was under an Iraq plotting to kill more Americans. Does Jerry Nadler really think it's ally that souleymane kill those people in the the mother and father of that woman that the Bank al-Baghdadi killed literally you raped and killed this woman and al-Baghdadi is taken out and Jerry Nadler won't stand for that and he wants to call that a lie. He owes an apology to the family of those victims. who were the victims of these evil terrorists who are now dead? Because of president trump's actions back to Speaker Pelosi locie Jonathan Turley. Who happens to be a law? Professor he was the one Republican this call before the House Judiciary Committee in the impeachment process as a column today saying the speaker should resign Over this agree disagree. I think she at a minimum owes a deep apology to the president and the country importantly a public apology at a minimum of. She can't bring herself herself to that She represents the whole institution of the House in what Congress represents as the People's House that that is not where this country is frankly. Is Their one swing swing house district in this country. That's going to be up for grabs that Nancy Pelosi can go into to help her income Democrats who are probably GonNa get beat because of the way they've carried themselves themselves is now the party of impeachment of the Party of disrespect for the office of President of the United States. Is Anybody going to welcome her into their district. Now that's a swing district speaking of that. Let's cut to that Shea since you teed me up for that will house. Republicans regained the majority in this twenty twenty election cycle. I think we will I think the president trump will get reelected hardcore prediction. Yes it's a hardcore prediction You know look when you go to other parts of the country and I get to travel to a lot of places you know. My role is Republican. Publican whip. You're going to a lot of these swing districts in swing states in whether you're going to Pennsylvania Minnesota Florida or Ohio. There is a lot of support for the the president amongst people who didn't vote for two thousand sixteen. They like what he's doing. He's delivering results. You can just their 401K's up again. Does Jerry Nadler color disagree with any of that. Those are real things happening. The real families who were left behind by the way a lot of these are people who weren't voting for Republicans or Democrats voting according to Washington Washington. Left them behind. I think that's the disconnect that that the policies and the Nadler's of the world don't get is that there were people who gave up on both parties because Washington stop working for them and now all all of a sudden they're seeing real opportunities in their life. They're getting a chance to have the American dream again. Our middle class is coming back to America. So thank those thirty. One districts that are regarded did and called front-line districts by the Democrats. After Jeffrey Andrew Switch parties thirty. That's right so those are trump districts in two thousand sixteen seeing the flip to house Democrats in two thousand eighteen. How many of those you predict Republicans will win back? Obviously we need a flip twenty to get the house back. I say at least one. We're in strong shape to win and The vast majority of those. Oh by the way. There's at least a dozen more seats beyond that That are very competitive. If not fifty fifty district so the range for Republicans could go as high thirty ready to absolutely by about this. We lost a majority of the seats that we lost. We lost seats when we lost the majority. Two years ago a majority of those were fifty one forty nine racism with with eight million fewer voters in two thousand eighteen in two thousand sixteen. There were a lot of trump voters who didn't show up in two thousand eighteen. They're coming back. I can tell you. Not only the trump voters gonNA show up but a lot of people had voted Democrat. I think are going to be voting for Donald Trump because he's delivered for them. This is implied in your answer. But I want to have to directly. President trump wins reelection. Yes while larger electoral margin than before. I think that's possible including a state like Minnesota that we came short on that I think I think we could win. Because Donald Trump win the popular popular vote. It's possible You know the popular votes at different situation but look it's possible you know he didn't. He didn't spend a lot of time in some of those states that we're going to go his way but if he went and spent time out there he'll get a lot more votes in any could win the popular vote but ultimately it's like it's like the Super Bowl you don't get the trophy forgetting more yards than the other team you you get the trophy. Forget more points precise so ultimately that's got to be your main focus is getting more electoral votes and then continuing to do your job in one thing. With all the distractions in in Washington. President trump has never lost focus on his main objective of carrying out the things he ran on and You know whether you agree or disagree. somebody running for office and in doing the things they promised is something we should at least respect so I want to turn our attention. For a moment to impeachment and re to a couple of comments of recent vintage from some Senate Republicans Republicans who are voting to acquit the president but in so doing said the following Lisa Murkowski Republican from Alaska. The president's May quote directly shameful and wrong. She said degrading the office by actions or name calling something that should be avoided and implied. The president has done both. Lamar Alexander Republican from Tennessee presents. Presents conduct wrong inappropriate. Crossing the line. Improper agree or disagree. I mean I don't agree with those assessments but again that's their opinion. That's that's not why you have impeachment. Impeachment was put in the Constitution for a very specific reason high crimes and misdemeanors in our founders. Talked about this it's not just for Some random Adam crime. It's because the president went so far above and beyond what they should have done this never they never started with crime. The other three impeachments all started with a crime yet. Pelosi looking for a definable crime at least in the Fed definable crime but at the end of the day I read the transcript of the Dolinsky phone call here. You had a president of Ukraine. Getting elected did on a platform of rooting out. Corruption thanking President trump starting thanking them for selling javelin missile so he could stand up to Russia when Obama and Biden would not sell those same missiles to to help Ukraine stand up to Russia talking about other things. They're working on and cleaning up corruption in Ukraine which everybody knew there was so so there was there was never a by the way there was was never a link between aid and investigations and so that was the heart of their their first charge impeachment the obstruction of Congress exerting executive authority is something every every president since George Washington would Jerry Nadler vote to impeach George Washington because he did the same thing that president trump is done in exerting executive privilege. You fight that out in the courts but you don't impeach a president because he says I'm going to do what every other president is done at fighting for my rights and article to just like we have rights in Article One you resolve it with article three to judicial branch year voice. Steve scalise nothing shameful or wrong about the president's conduct in this matter no laughing this Alinsky thanked president trump for the help that he's wrong. I'm GONNA pros or the two people who really were participants in the call and both of them thought it was a good call. So what what a what. If somebody else's opinion who wished Donald Trump's shouldn't have gotten elected think so nothing wrong inappropriate or improper. Now his job all presidents done his job and it's not an impeachable offense to carry out different foreign policy than maybe Nancy Pelosi would've carried a moment ago. You mentioned favorably. Moderate or centrist Democrats. I think Doug Jones might fall into that category Maybe maybe not He said this week that the evidence clearly proves the president used the weight of his office and that of the US government to seek to to coerce a foreign government to interfere in the election drew. Is he talking about Barack. Obama Obama Joe Biden when they let Russia interfere with our elections in two thousand sixteen archly. Tried to look Doug Jones was talking about was trying to find a way to explain a yes. Vote which I think is the wrong. Vote the the president never used his way to the office and again listen to presidents alinsky Zielinski said. He was never pressured. The Foreign Minister of Ukraine said they got the money and they were never pressured. So maybe Doug Jones feeling pressure back home in Alabama but Dolinsky. who was the only other participant in the call? said he wasn't pressure pressure. Shouldn't that means something carry some weight. That's the voice of Steve Scalise. Our special guests stay tuned for segment. Three of the CIA of the takeout. We're at matchbox. Lunch is on the way from. CBS News. This it's the takeout with Major Garrett. Welcome back thanks for being with us here at the takeout or Major Garrett matchbox great restaurant. We appreciate their hospitality. lunches on the way. Steve Steve scalise Snow House. Minority whip is our special guest. I WANNA play for you. Something Steve Congressman Whip. Steve is good. Steve is good As I mentioned at the top of the show we have lots of different voices and ideological perspectives. On this program November fifteenth we had Jamie Raskin a member of the House of Representatives on the Democratic side serves on the Judiciary Committee. I want to listen to his take. It'd be the last talk about impeachable. We're going to get onto other issues. But I want you to address this statement from I'm Jamie Raskin and then we'll move on. That's number three sir. Well I if their argument is that in the final analysis investigations were not launched. Despite despite every best effort by the President Giuliani and their henchmen and the money was ultimately released. That's essentially confession. They're they're like someone who's robbing a bank who's got two big bags of money is about to leave the bank and then the security guards pounce on the person and they dust themselves off and say. Oh we're all is well that ends well. No money was taken out of this bank. Nothing was ever converted. I mean they're basically conceding that there was a clear attempt to shake down a foreign government and to obtain this political dirt on opponent and so on they're basically admitting your reaction. Steve scalise well for him to use the term shakedown again. Go ask presidents. Alinsky he was the other person on the call. If the bank was never robbed. Then how do you arrest us. Somebody for robbing the bank. President trump never pressured them into it. In fact Zielinski himself said. I never felt any pressure to do anything and by the way. I didn't do the thing that y'all are saying the president it made me do. They never did the investigation and so ultimately Ukraine got the money by the way Ukraine. Got The money prior to the legal deadline for what it was supposed to be you don. I never saw Democrats that are all of a sudden expressing this outrage expressing outrage. When Barack Obama wouldn't give that money in aid to Ukraine Joe Biden was vice president when it gets back to the real quid pro quo? Joe Biden's the one who brag saying. He did go to Ukraine and said. I'm going to leave in six hours with the billion dollars of your money my money taxpayer taxpayer money. Unless y'all fire the prosecutor that's looking in to investigating his son any Brag and they fired the guy. I mean it used explicit language but the fact is is Joe Biden is the one who said in shook down Ukraine and said. I'm leaving with the billion dollars unless you fire the guy in so Ukraine fired the guy that was the real crime. I don't hear them talking talking about going to prosecuting Joe Biden. When you say crime you mean what kind? You don't mean a crime crime that was a quid pro quo. That was absolutely one. There wasn't one in the case of Donald Trump again. They've they they go back to the Muller investigation they really thought the Muller Investigation was GonNa find some kind of link between a collusion and Russia never happened You know there was a lot of stuff. The Democrats did the steele dossier. There was real concern about what happened in some of our intelligence agencies U. F. B. I. Agents and some other folks in Intel Talk Talk Program Power and that ought to be investigated talks about the I believe in those agencies. I think they need to work well to secure our country. You shouldn't be carrying out your political agenda when you have of a badge and so I'm concerned that that still needs to be rooted out but at the end of the day again you go and look at what their claim was. It didn't happen and you can ask the people that they claimed it happened happen to again. Go back to the bank robbery analogy if the people at the banks that nobody came and tried to rob the bank. Why are you going to put somebody in jail for doing it over? Fifty Democrats voted voted to impeach Donald Trump for criticizing. NFL players. Who kneeled during the national anthem over Fifty Democrats to take out a president for that? Now make answer for that you know. Is that a crime. Now just disagreeing with the person on their politics. We have elections to resolve this major. Believe me a lot of people are going to show up polls more than in Iowa in the Democrat primary. Oh by the way. I'm sure we will so working very soon. Meaning this week. Get to the other side of this saga meaning impeachment. Teach me. I want to play for you. Sarah this is sound bite number six from the president's Super Bowl Interview Sean. Hannity about what comes after this. What's the atmosphere? If you're going to play that Sir one I'd like to but it's pretty hard when you think about it because it's been such I use the word witch hunt use the word hoax folks. I see the hatred. I see the dilemma. They don't care about fairness they don't care about lying you look at the lies you look at the you look at the reports reports that were done that were so false the the the level of hypocrisy so. I'm not sure that they can do to be honest. I think they just I just WanNa win. And it doesn't matter how they win and the question was. Can there be any cooperation between this White House Speaker. Pelosi in the minority leader in the Senate. Charles Schumer Humor. So I'm just going to lay this before you Steve scalise. What is the atmosphere after impeachment? Is there any prospect of issues prescription drugs infrastructure sure dealing with healthcare and the like that can be accomplished this year. I'm attorney that's no from the president but if you listen to last night the President I did offer a number of those opportunities and we can get some things done if you look at. US MCA. I was at the White House last week for the signing of the new trade deal new NAFTA with Mexico and some concessions were made to Democrats to get there hasn't worked really closely ambassador lighthizer great job. His whole team worked closely with Democrats speaker. Pelosi ultimately worked worked with the president to get that done. And that's a major win for American workers making our country more competitive so that's one example of something that already happened. I talked about last night about. I'll I'll give you a good example of present talked about lowered prescription drug prices. I worked really hard as is the Republican whip work in the Energy and Commerce Committee put a coalition of Republicans and Democrats together. We we came up with a package of bills that would lower drug prices and it came out unanimously. And I know that doesn't get a lot of attention because people think everything is partisan in Washington where every every Democrat Never Republican on the committee jurisdiction voted for a package of bills to lower drug prices. Including right now a generic company can be paid by the drug manufacturer not to make the generic drug. And so you don't see enough. Generic drugs come into the market. Because the big drug companies paying the generic generic company. We make that a legal So you would bring more prescriptive Senate. It hasn't come up in the house. I would like to see that package of bills again. That came out of committee unanimously. Come to the floor. It would pass unanimously. Obviously the president would sign the bill. That's it would get done. And I have no doubt would pass through the Senate as well because again these are things that were worked out between Republicans. Publicans and Democrats over months and infrastructure is a very similar As very similar issue that we can work together on the price tag and so let. Let's say you had two hundred billion dollar infrastructure package fully paid for which could be very bipartisan with the reforms by the way that help projects get done right now. A Road Project Bridge Project might take ten years to build because of so many overlapping regulations. If you reform that process so it can get done in two years instead of ten. Dramatically lowers the cost. Make a lot more projects happen again where you have Republicans and Democrats that have a real interesting getting this done on the Transportation Committee. I'd like to see that happen happen. I hope it happens. By partisan white whale of Washington the last decade infrastructure. Everyone talks about it. Everyone points to it never happened. Look at prescription drugs again that that package of bills those came out of committee unanimously. Even these toxic times that can happen if you roll up your sleeves just like us MCA. There's a template for how to get it done now whether or not will happen. Hopefully we'll we'll keep keep working at it. You talk to the president with some frequency. I've gotten to know him somewhat well over the years he is said in public. Something I believe is fundamentally true. He likes to fight. He doesn't want to fight with right. Now when impeachments over there's not going to be that specter of something haunting him chasing him like the investigation was like impeachment was. How is president? President trump going to function in a world where there's no visible enemy or investigation found him nuts or motivating him or giving greater energy. Because you know he says it publicly we it does I hate like He. He comes from the tough world in New York real estate. I mean that's that's the world he grew up in in Louisiana Louisiana's tougher bare knuckle. Politics Kicks in Louisiana to and you know but you can also work with people but if you don't think this this campaign is going to be tough there are. There are a handful at least of Democrats that are still trying to to take him out. In the Democrat primaries there more Democrats talking to get John Kerry who was a surrogate for Joe Biden was at an event Iowa trying to talk himself into getting back in the race. So look there are. They're going to be a lot of battles but he's also shown a willingness to work with people even in the midst of that so forty-five seconds. Let's go straight to Iowa. Oh you were there with the trump team nearly eighty surrogates kind of overkill. Maybe your observations. Not what you saw the president. We'll get to that in a second second but what you didn't see in terms of results from the democratic side. What an embarrassment and and again these people want to run the country? They can't even run an election with less than two hundred thousand people voting to get results to people and by the way I know how to count. They've been counting for over one hundred. Fifty Years in these caucuses. And so if you look at what happened you know. It's on full display display. How incompetent they are when they're party said we're going to develop an APP to make it work better? You know. We counting votes usually with an hour. Donald Trump by the way his results ninety seven percent and in those results came in within an hour on the Republican side. The Democrats do this fancy APP and they still forty eight hours later. Still don't know who won. That's voice. Release a lunch lunch arrived. Were happy that we're happy that that's happened where it matchbox stay tuned for segment for the ticket and just a second from CBS News. This is the takeout account with Major Garrett people understand the importance of fair trial it we need to be transparent that nobody's above the law and that we had to hold just president accountable. Self future presidents. Don't think that they can. Let's Voice of Debbie Dingle of Michigan Democrat appeared on the show on January seventeenth. And if she was in favor of Iowa not going I on January seventeenth. I'm quite confident. She's even more in favor of I will not going I now considering the debacle. The Iowa Democratic caucuses that we were referring to before we went to break Steve. scalise do you have a dog in that hunt. Do you care who goes first Do you think a regional primary where this rotates in the country. It's a different chance to go I. It's a better idea. Do you care one way or the other. I really don't have a talk on me. Look somebody's got to do the job of the close intense betting in Ireland's have done it for a long time where they literally get up close and personal. And you know you're going going to high school gyms. It's a different conversation than if you're at a multi thousand seater arena and so you've gotta be as a candidate be able to do both and in somebody's going to do it. I know every state every now. And then there's a fight for WHO's GONNA go first but if if they're complaining because they couldn't figure out votes if you can't count votes in Iowa you're not going to be able to count votes oats in Michigan or any other state. Will there ever be competent. Just do your job. Will there ever be a Steve Scalise for president campaign. No I ran for student body president. Lsu I think it's the only race I lost but I learned a lot from that though and I definitely enjoyed will never run for president. I look I'm the run on the it's going to be the major Garrett Steve scalise chicken how about that doomed to failure from Jerry it will be one of the funnest campaigns. What the route failure but fun? All the way around no doubt folks when I was in a setting aside the inability to count the entrance polls did indicate eight that healthcare was the dominant issue but number two for the very first time climate change. That is a big issue for Democrats Two leading Democrats seeking the Presidential Nomination The Nation Elizabeth Warren and Bernie Sanders Not only have induced Endorsed Green new deal but they both want to ban fracking. And fracking is a new method of oil and natural gas exploration. It has dramatically. Increased domestic production of both fossil fuels revolutionized the industry in certain parts tomorrow country Pennsylvania certain parts of Texas. I'm not sure if it's big in Louisiana or not but I want your thought on both if you look at what America's done this energy revolution. Oh It's transformed our economy but it's also help us help our friends all around the world you WanNa talk about standing up to Russia. Nothing helps our allies around the world. Stand up to Russia more than US selling telling them are natural gas instead of them having to get it from Russia who by the way always put strings attached. So it's been great for our economy but this is what's interesting when you talk about something like the green a new deal. If you're concerned about carbon emissions we actually through our energy efficiency in America and our innovation we have reduced carbon emissions. And you look at these countries like in Europe. You know the all. The signers of the Paris Accord not one of those. European countries is in compliance with the Paris accord. So the hypocrisy of these folks that say ship jobs mcdonagh in India who admit five times more carbon to make the same stuff that we make in America because we actually have good standards. Why if they really believed in that? Why is Elizabeth warning all these other CL climate change and green deal folks? Why are they flying around on private planes while they're telling you not to fly around in planes the no fracking for you you? But they're driving around in cars fueled by gasoline. So you know live by if you really believe in it but if you want to wreck our economy those jobs will go to countries that emit more carbon urban and then you will have made matters worse. Is there a actual threat to Louisiana already. Coastal community in your opinion from climate change no and in fact the coast eroding eroding because week cordoned off and levied the Mississippi River. That used to distribute silt. From all you look at the entire chaplain chaplain basin. All along South Louisiana. That was built. Because the Mississippi River used to move around and disperse all the sediment amount and then we for a lot of good reason shipping commerce throughout the nation we put levies throughout the Mississippi River in it no longer distributes that sediment so we're working in Louisiana to rebuild our coast and we're funding it get this by revenues generated from drilling off of our coasts that money billions of dollars is now being used to rebuild land in Louisiana that was lost due coastal erosion from a losing all that sediment that the Mississippi River used to distribute should carbon be taxed in any way shape or form no because it would wreck our economy and you look in the New England states right now because New York won't even allow a pipeline to go through and bring that low cost energy from states like like Pennsylvania into the New England states. They're paying dramatically more for their energy and they're getting it from Russia and other countries that don't have the good environmental standards we have so again. There's there's a cost to all of this. If you WANNA emit more carbon past the green new deal China would love our jobs and by the way go look at China's environmental standards compared to ours. And when you are accused used those Republicans who speak as you just have on this issue of being head in the sand nonscientific and deniers of climate change. You say what I'm backing this with science. Go Look at the data ten thousand years ago when you had no combustion engine a we had hotter temperatures in the earth there is temperature goes up and down make no mistake about it. It's called called Mother Nature. It's always happened throughout time. It will continue to happen to say. Oh we we have hurricanes now because man is doing things man was not doing those things and we had hurricanes. This idea that there can be some simple answer that Gee Whiz. We won't have hurricanes earthquakes if we just change our lifestyle in a way that literally would wreck our economy and again we would emit more carbon in the earth's atmosphere if we pass something like the green new deal or a carbon tax because those jobs would go to other countries who they even AFC will l. e. acknowledging China is Alexandra. Cortez right that's right she. She would exempt in the Paris. Accord Exempts China for Till Twenty Thirty. They they weren't even have to comply with this stuff and they more carbon already and to the larger question I'm going to try to elegantly. Eat A cheeseburger in front of you. I give you the Salad Salad mad props because not everyone will dive into their food on the show as robustly as you have like mad props for the New Orleans. I love food exactly this good food. Well conceptually should the United States be a leader in this dialogue. There is a sentiment that because the United States pulled out of the Paris accord. It's absent from this conversation. Conversation and therefore the world will not follow our lead and that reduces the ability of the world to confront this issue. Well I think what America can continue to do is actually lead not in words that are followed up with hollow actions but real actions. What we've done through American innovation and our technology we've reduced carbon emissions and ultimately we've also helped create lower cost energy which helps people afford? I mean there are people who die in cold winters because they can't heat their homes. It actually happens if you have lower cost energy you have people able to heat their homes if you look at Rabaul due to manufacturing we're thinking things married it's not just good for our economy and we're bringing millions of jobs back home but because we have really good environmental standards and I know a lot of people like to just knock America. Go Look at how they do it. In other countries go to Brazil and show me how much carbon urban they omit to make the same steel that we make in America. It's better for the environment to make it here. It's going to be made somewhere so again. Hide your head in the sand and say oh nobody will make that steal. Somebody's GonNa make it. If it's not made in America it will be made in a place that probably amidst four or five times more carbon than what we do so I hear you saying thank goodness this for those radical environmental lefties of the seventies who created the environmental regulatory regime. We now live under now. We have looked. We have good standards and again. It's it's it's America. Where did the technology that taught us how to produce energy how to drill and FRAC and do things in environmentally friendly way? Aw that's what is created this great economic renaissance in America. It's what is allowing us to sell energy to our friends around the world so now if you're in Japan you can get your or energy from America if you're in eastern Europe where Russia's the only game in town for so long and when you take their energy you have to take their policies as well that are really bad you. You don't have to buy their at the energy from Russia anymore. That's Steve scalise. Thanks for joining us. We'll see next week from CBS News. This is the takeout with Major Garrett welcomed. Here take out take a special guest. Police House minority whip. That means. He's the number. I'm number two most important Republican the House of Representatives. We started our conversation. Steve is I want to check in on your health. And your mobility and your Rehab and all that Sorta the stuff you mentioned in that conversation that according to those who treated you and saved you you were minutes From death how aware of that were you at the time. And how has that changed your life in terms of introspection about the the meaning of life and the frailty of an initially right after I was shot. I didn't realize fully what had happened. I I I went down I. My legs gave out so I knew I was hit because I could hear more gunshots. It didn't feel the pain you feel knowing how badly I was injured and started crawling all in a way. And when you know when when everything gave out I just started pranks at God's hands I started feeling weaker leaker. I was really kind of feel dehydrated. So I got some some gatorade and then I'm being worked on and after a while I started wondering is somebody GonNa take take me to the hospital because I am starting to feel my body shut down and I did get a little bit concerned then when when I felt like okay. I'm I'm feeling this thing slipping away and then I went high light living away and I call my wife at that moment and Left our message was a voicemail. It was early in the morning to Orleans. Parts somebody else's phone and left a message you wouldn't WanNa have to think you'd have to leave and I woke up three days later man. That's when I really found out how close I was to death. How you know how bad things were? And I didn't realize going right after the shoot had no idea what was going on inside side of me and just how bad my my own internal organs were were shredded. The bullet broken over one hundred pieces and so I did a lot of internal damage and my trauma surgeons had a lot of work to do and then they shared with me in the weeks later would have really gone. I'd asked him. I wanted to know how bad it was. And you know my trauma surgeon said it was maybe a minute And he said there were a few times that night the first night that he wasn't sure if I was going to make and you know it definitely puts things into perspective and it reminded reminded me of what's important in life and like I've got a young family. I've got a wonderful family. I wanted to see my kids again. I wanted to see my wife and I was able to do all that and I'm lucky to be alive. I'm gathering that was a good bye. Call Message Itchy left. How does one conceive of doing that? Kahad how how. How do you find the words you just you know you? Just say what's in your heart and it was you know it was not a long call because I again. I'm feeling thing shut down and so I just wanted to share some things weather and you know. Luckily it didn't happen that way but It it could have gone the other way. So journalism is a process of archiving things. Does she save it or did she not WanNa save you know. I think she saved it. She she doesn't talk about it and neither neither do I because you know it was a conversation between she and I and luckily she didn't hear it for a few days because as you can imagine things chaotic for her she had to fly into DC from New Orleans. Not Knowing if her husband was going to be alive when she landed and And so the first few days world whirlwind and then she she was kind of catching up on things and that's when she came across the message and I remember as a few days after I didn't even bring it up to her. She brought up to me. And she's like I just listened to your voicemail. We'll talk to you quickly about healthcare. The president brought it up in the state of the Union It sounds to me that on this issue whoever the nominee is if the nominee of the Democratic Party endorses or comes close to endorsing Medicare for all Republicans will say no no. We need to keep things as they are. We can't go down this dangerous route of government run health insurance will things as they are is defined principally by the affordable care correct so we'll republicans in a great display of irony in twenty twenty beat defending things as they are which is the very affordable care. Act that they spent years years and years trying to dismantle. No and I wouldn't defend things as they are because they're still very broke and in fact the big issue right now is the fact that cost her or too high and costs. Continue to go up. We talked earlier about prescription drugs. And they're very tangible and bipartisan. Things that we can do to lower prescription drug costs and I hope we pursue do that but then if you look at the overall cost of healthcare we've got to have price transparency. Nobody can tell you what things cost if you have insurance cost one thing. If you're paying a cash it's another if you're on Medicare Care Medicaid. It's different We've got a breakthrough that I think things like health. Savings accounts are incredibly innovative at giving people real power controlling health-care decisions. We've gotTA make sure. Preexisting conditions are protected. The president talked about that. There are more innovative ways to do Co. bomber. Well but the thing is under under obamacare would it did say nobody can rape people based on risk but if you have a pre existing condition now you're already paying too much and so the answer and Obamacare was make everybody else pay that higher price. What what we did in in a different approach that we've taken and the president license idea is by funding? High risk pools high risk pools our way of saying somebody with a pre existing condition Russian. Their cost of care might cost more. But if we subsidize some of that premium at the federal level acknowledging that this is a major cost to everybody and it's not fair that that you're you're going to have to pay more because of something to happen to you that you had no control over if the federal government had that subsidy which is what we did with the high risk pools? It actually lowers everybody else's premiums including the people with preexisting condition so it's a totally different way to approach it. And then you look at Medicaid Block. Granting Medicaid to the states is something the thing that we've tried to do governors by the way most governors have asked for president trump recently took some executive action to give states the ability. Just what's wrong with giving states. The flexibility to save you can run your Medicaid program for low income people better and smarter than Washington in many states will tell you at a lower cost. Why shouldn't you be able to do that and right now yet? You have this one-size-fits-all size fits all program out of Washington. That's not working for low income people. Those are innovative things that we should in Oughta do not accepting the status quo because the status quo doesn't work but not going into government. Government run healthcare like Medicare for all where you literally ban private insurance which works well for over one hundred and sixty million people so we have three threshold questions. Every every single guest on this wonderful program have been asked and answered and our audience loves the answers because they reveal a little bit about who's been at the microphone and at the table so in no particular order most influential book in Your Life Your favorite movie or one of your favorite movies and if you're on a long flight or a long drive what kind of music artist or genre. Are you most likely glee to listen to. You know the the book that really fires me up. The most is a book called Medal of honor. And it's a story of Medal of honor recipients and you WanNa talk about the greatness of our country these are people I've met some of these folks and they're just heroes beyond heroes. The king faked his birth certificate to to be eligible to fight more to a guy who jumped on a grenade to save everybody else thinking he was going to die and he lived through it and he saved everybody else in his platoon. Those kind of stories are just anybody can read that. You're you're at a down moment. Anybody will be fired up. You read that book. Quick Commercial Go back through our Archives Ladies and gentlemen TAKEOUT PODCAST DOT COM. You'll find an hour long conversation conversation with our extraordinary national security correspondent David Martin about recipients of the Medal of honor so Favorite movie Apollo Apollo thirteen great move. That is a great movie no reason they should have made it back alive and every failure is not an option was was the the the theme of that movie. Houston we have. We're not going to let us. Do we have a problem. And they said we're not nobody. Everybody took ownership and said we're GONNA fix this and we're going bringing back home. We are not going to let them die up there. And we'RE GONNA macgyver. 's thing and take your name literally the answer to everything is duct tape right. Major data figured it out and they tried and tried and tried and I mean just a great uplifting story you know and I love movies that are uplifting are always fun but when it's true it's a true story and it's something that the whole country was the united around and against all odds and all of that and we did it we pulled it off in it and it really did happen again to remind people off as adversity. You need examples like that so that you can don't don't quit. Don't ever give up. You know. The Kansas City chiefs would not even made it to the down by twenty points again you know. What do we do ten points we give up? You know you never give up in so many good examples like that. So that's that's some music. Steve Scalise I'm an eighties guy by a by nature. So you know I I can get on the police to you to look every now. Still listen to some some some fats domino. I got to meet fats. Domino's from New Orleans that's still great classic music so You know an embedded in Ezra I went to school with those guys at Lsu so ma- maybe not as many of your listeners to her to them but the great great banned from From on the The Eighty S and ninety four. Go I want you to needle Jim Jordan about this show last week. His answer was Karen Carpenter. I guess Johnny was already taken but I look at folks no other stay tuned. We're done we're out. We're GONNA have more or less. We can finish this great lunch all all right for more from this week's conversation. Download the takeout outtake speciale Tuesday morning. Wherever you get your podcast? The takeout is produced used by arden. Fourth Jamie Bents Sarah Cook and Ellie Watson. CBS and production by Eric. Soussan and grace seekers follow us on facebook book twitter and Instagram at takeout. podcast that's acts takeout. PODCAST and four visit takeout. PODCASTS DOT COM. The takeout is your production of C._B._S.. News radio.

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Congressman Steve Scalise 3-29-20

CATS Roundtable

09:26 min | 10 months ago

Congressman Steve Scalise 3-29-20

"Good Morning America. This is the catch roundtable. John Catch him if he'd he's here. What's going on well? We have Congressman Steve Scalise. We'd US the House Minority Whip. And maybe he'll explain to the American people What's going on? Good Morning Congressman. How are you this morning and doing well John? Going to be with you. We went through a crazy week where The the markets went up and down like roller coasters. And it was all caused by political upheavals especially on Nancy Pelosi's end where last Sunday night I had recommended to the president. Maybe we should close the markets and avoid DOROTA courses. Can't tell us what's going on. Well one you you see. A lot of people come together to work with President trump to the best response from Congress to make sure we keep businesses afloat and help families who are laid off who don't have any income. Dern would hopefully is going to be a short few weeks of dealing with the serious crisis and then on Sunday low behold yet Nancy Pelosi fly in from San Francisco then literally blow up. The whole working relationship had been forged to to confront this crisis and she had a. You saw her bill. The green new deal and read mandated same day voter registration and a bail out for the post office stuff that had absolutely nothing to do with the corona virus. Martine hundred pages exactly in the country saw it and Frankly John. There was a major backlash People get fed up. They said even Democrats were saying. Look we get that. We WanNA do some of this stuff but now this is the time for people working together to focus on specific things that need to be done to help. Businesses stay afloat. That are literally hanging on by a thread to help those families who are facing. Maybe they got their house note or their rent payment due the next day and she's playing these kind of political gains about solar panels on airplanes. I mean what would wall do they live and I think you saw quickly after about two days. Everybody gotTA got back to reality. And she dropped a lot of that. We pulled all that garbage out of the bill. China cost us a few days where you saw. The stock market tumbled again. You saw a lot of people. Actually thousands of people got laid off in those two days. Just because the uncertainty where businesses are saying okay. I've got my bank notes or I've got my payroll but I can't make both and so they handle layoff workers to hold onto their business. So there'd be something to come back to when we get through this That was. That was just disgraceful. Which she did and then again I think the country watched it and saw for what it was and then we got back on track and so they're relief. Package that's passed now is truly going to be a lifeline. To a lot of small businesses around the country those what was medium and large sized businesses. So that we can have an economy to come back to. You can have jobs to come back to over three million people that lost their jobs just in the last week so this is very serious. President trump is doing a phenomenal job. Sticking with the facts and helping to address. Each problem isn't see it and states and also hold onto an economy so that we can get back to what was the the greatest economy maybe in generations. We we need to get through this but we we will was the greatest economy Generations there was an all time high ever ever and all of a sudden thirty days later where we were on the bottom of the sewer. You know You've got you gotta hold on and then you never know what's GonNa happen but you don't get let's get back to those things. Were fundamentally mentally Once we get through this crisis now I understand. You're also congressperson from the noon New Orleans area. I'm in New York and we're going through a crisis time but second to New York. I understand the New Orleans. What's going on? Yeah Johnny Yuma both New York and New Orleans a really at the top right now in terms of the number of infected People people that have tested positive. The numbers are on the rise in New Orleans Talked to a lot of medical experts. Feel that Mardi gras probably would brought a lot of an end because right when it was starting to come out of China Before the rest of the world really knew how serious this was had. Mardi gras where people come in. And you know one of the first gaps in New Orleans was an uber driver who they said had some Some people from other countries possibly including China in his Uber Car. So you know. This is something that we're dealing with a New Orleans. I've got a senior citizen facility in my district That's had nine deaths already. Lambeth House just heartbreaking We're working with them. We're able to get a CDC official will come down to help To to manage the patients better still there. Also it's it's very serious in some areas and you know you just see everybody dealing with her together. You see neighbors pulling together you see. Healthcare workers doing phenomenal work risking their own safety to help others. You know this is when people pull together but clearly war liens New York or or at tickets. Fear Right now. Hopefully this starts to spike starts coming down to off a little politics. He said that the Democratic Congress and Republican Congress were getting along with each other until Pelosi came into town with fourteen hundred new pages. Is there an uproar or they're still loyal to produce it well? I think you saw uproar on both sides and you know the the media on again even even on some of the Democrat typical You know the the fake news station so to speak Even they were recognizing that that was an overreaching so After public pressure mounted you saw Pelosi pull that back and we were able to yank all that garbage out of bill. You know clean still some things in the massacre package that you were. I would not have wanted in there but by and large every business owner. I've talked to. That's hanging by a thread. Said this gives them life saving tools. These are things that are literally going to be life or death for so many businesses. That want to come back to that. We're doing well before this crisis But yet you you take a few weeks of of no cash lower. You can't have customers in your store and you see quickly that that can do to To most families and businesses. And so that's why you need to give them some kind of relief package to hold on. And that's that's where it was passed by Congress. President Trump Thinks that you don't up certain of the country By Easter Do you believe it's realistic? I think what the president said. A few days ago was important to let the country know that whatever that exactly is There has to be a point where we confront this crisis had on. We're smart about how we Social DISTANCE FROM PEOPLE. Wash our hands more or think people are recognizing health challenges dramatically more than there. Were just two weeks ago but at the same time you can't just shut an entire upon me for for months on end and think that there will be something to come back to you when the crisis is over so the fact that the president was willing to to say they will have to date serving whatever it is and Easter. You know. There's a lot of connotations. Of course you know. The resurrection country could be that day. But if it's not that they hopefully it's not long after but I thought it was important that the president not the country now that we're taking all the steps and precautions weekend to keep Americans safe but we also recognize that there will send a time where we have to start turning things back on it. We want an economy for for there to come back to the more jobs for people to come back to you. And if you need this open ended then those all those companies will go away. And there will be no economy for people to return to so obviously. It's a delicate balance. It's it's one of the things that president trump I think he's been doing a great job of managing the balance in focusing on safety in getting people help they need anything else. You want to tell the American public. I didn't tell the American public that what they've been doing helping neighbors people coming together. I I was a state representative during Hurricane Katrina and I saw a lot of similar things on a much smaller scale where you had an entire community shut down for over a month. Many parts of the city in Orleans had no power People had homes with water in them for weeks at a time and everything and yet people stuck together lose their heads and and start trying to blame other people. It was a it was a horrible disaster that you just couldn't control. And they got they got through it together and they. They stayed strong. And we're GONNA get through this together to work with our leaders to make smart decisions but again we've got a great president. Donald Trump who is leading in getting the best minds together back the foul cheese so many of the medical teams that have been part of this decision making process to help us identify with those things. All we need to be focused on right now. It's making sure. Hospitals have the tools they need and to try to prevent as much as ten a surge in our hospitals. But then we're GONNA have a next phase where I'm going to have to get people back to work at our businesses back up and running. The president's also focused on that and we'll just stay together and work together we will get through it and be stronger. Representatives Khaliq minority whip in the house. Thank you so much for coming on and let's catch up again real soon. God bless America. This is the roundtable. Be Right back.

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AP One Minute Headlines Mar 27 2019 05:00 (EDT)

AP Radio News

02:31 min | 1 year ago

AP One Minute Headlines Mar 27 2019 05:00 (EDT)

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Cheap Fakes on the Campaign Trail

The Lawfare Podcast

44:19 min | 4 months ago

Cheap Fakes on the Campaign Trail

"The image. No. You have bolts from Susan tag to scholars film writing. About. HOW POWERFUL IMAGES OUR And they stick in our mind and their heart to shake. has think bearing witness in a way that it's not like. Winter told me I told Ben and Ben told someone else and we have to sort of think that we rely on that chain of transmission. You don't need to rely on some credibility we soup. And that's why it how such much. I'm Benjamin whereas and this is the law fair podcast. September. Ninth Two thousand twenty. It was a big week for manipulated video and audio content within thirty six hours senior Republicans or people associated with the trump campaign three times tweeted or posted or shared manipulated audio or video on social media prompting backlash from media and the tech companies. Last week l'affaire is managing editor, Quinta Jurassic and associate editor Jacob. wrote a piece analyzing these incidents. They came on the podcast to talk about it. So did Danielle Citron a professor of law at the Boston University School of law and Macarthur Fellow who has written for l'affaire and appeared on the law fair podcasts on issues of deep fakes, and in this case, cheap fakes. A wide ranging conversation who posted what on twitter and other social media? How did the company's respond? What more could they have done and is posting manipulated video still worth it given what the companies now do it's the law fair podcast September ninth cheap fakes on the campaign trail. Jacob, get started. What was it that happened last week that caused you in Quinta to write this piece. Yes it was a bit of a whirlwind thirty, six hours. So on the morning of August thirtieth, which was a Sunday Steve Scalise, who is the second highest ranking Republican in the House of Representatives tweeted out of video that was a conversation between Joe Biden and disabled activist addy bargain and so the video had manipulated. What Barkan had originally said sort of in the service of making a claim that Biden had agreed to defend the police in. The original exchange, it's not quite that in the video, they're sort of insertion of a word that birkenhead not said. So that was the first one, and then very soon after that, there was another cheap fakes video that was circulating online and it was shared by the white. House. Deputy Chief of staff for Communications Dansk Gavino and that video appeared to show Joe Biden. Falling. Asleep, during a TV interview and so the original interview was video featuring Harry. The singer and Joe Biden at all and Biden was. Duplicity inserted into the video. So that was the second one, and then the final video came later that day from the trump campaign twitter account, which is at trump war room, which should oppose incessant campaign material and other stuff, and it was just a three second video and what it purported to show Biden saying quote you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. Now that video in reality was partly a way longer exchange. Giving a talk where he was parodying the talking point made by trump pence and others who serve incessantly raised the point that you won't be safe in Joe Biden's America. So all three were through very quickly edited videos that sort of twisted the words of in all instances Joe Biden to make him seem worse than to sort of portray a facade of something that didn't happen. So Quinta. You is created a kind of theory. Out of these three incidents, what do you think they stand for and why? So, there are two points that I think are important to make. The first one is Jacob I noted is that I think it's it's very easy to kind of constantly be a Downer on the tech companies and say that they're you know they're contributing to this problem of disinformation. They're not doing enough all that kind of thing, and I think it is true that they aren't doing enough to address this kind of disinformation that said it is notable that in all three. Of these cases, twitter actually slapped labels on all the tweets calling manipulative media and in at least one, possibly two of the cases also limited the ability of users to share or like respond to the tweets. So that is a big contrast to how platforms have previously handled incidents like these. There was a for example, a video of Nancy Pelosi in the spring of Twenty nineteen that was slowed down to make it seem like she was drunk or somehow impaired and twitter. To great controversy chose not to do anything. So I think it's notable both that twitter took quick action and that it took quick action according to policy that it had clearly set out along the lines of you know how it was going to deal with manipulative media like this the story with facebook and Youtube is a little more complicated but I do think that this shows there's a little more sophistication on the part of the platforms in dealing with this kind of stuff. So values for the second point, which is that it's good. You know platforms doing something is better than them worms doing nothing but I think we need to be clear about. The limits of platform responsibility here it is certainly true that twitter I think was right to take action I would argue that they might even have been more aggressive but at a certain point, it becomes unreasonable to expect twitter to be policing the information environment like this into sort of stop information like this from spreading. Win Frankly the Republican Party and those who support trump have entered into a space where they're are just known norms are constraining them from manufacturing material like this, right? Steve Scalise tweeted this video he he seems to have been somewhat hasn't at least but Dansk Gavino. This is not the first time. Scooby now has done something like this and. In the absence of strong political and social norms against this kind of fakery and political context is just GonNa? Be whack-a-mole as far as the platforms are concerned. And just to be clear are you suggesting that this is an Anon- parallel environment I that the Republicans are sharing at high levels on a semi frequent basis doctored videos but that there is no similar activity on the democratic side. I would say that that's that's a correct framing at the issue I. Actually thought it was notable that. Over the last couple of days, I saw a video that was being passed around on twitter of that someone had edited to make it seem like he was ambling around and it was actually it was from a non verified twitter account and it was not picked up at all by any left-leaning. Media. Or media that is often. Portrayed as left-leaning such as the New, York, times Washington Post and I think that's the big difference here. It's not that there aren't people who are left leaning who produce this kind of content but it's that the information ecosystem on the left in the center left in the center just doesn't function in the same way that it does on the right and the far right there is a sort of. A mechanism to to curb that kind of behavior. So it doesn't get amplified in reward Ed, and that just doesn't exist in the Republican Party right now. So you don't know of examples of the Biden campaign to. Perfect parallels the Biden campaign. Circulating a doctored video of Donald Trump or the I guess Steve Scalise is the second ranking Republican in the House I believe or the third ranking I can't remember which somebody like Steny Hoyer. Circulating doctored video of anybody is that is that fair? I'm not aware of it. It doesn't mean that it didn't happen but I'm I'm not aware of any. I will say you know I don't want to portray the left and centre-left US having its hands totally clean I think the one of the recent points where we had a similar argument over how twitter and facebook should. Handle manipulated media was during the Democratic primary when Michael. Bloomberg put out a campaign video that made it appear that he'd asked some kind of devastating question to the other Democratic candidates in that. There were crickets as they you know struggled to respond. That was not how that interaction went down and there was I. Remember there being a lot of discussion on the time among journalists and. In the Democratic Party about whether or not that was appropriate but I think it's notable that that was one video and I really don't think that we've seen anything close to what the trump campaign the Republican party have out on the Democratic, party and other Democratic presidential candidates. So Danielle. About the fakes that Quinta and Jacob brought about last week there are a far cry from a videos and the sort of deep fake videos that you and Bobby. Chesney have been warning about for a long time to what extent do you think this is the thin edge of the wedge that's going to lead to the problems that you and bobby were writing about or to what extent do you think rather that the that these sort of cheap fake videos which are really easy to produce there they don't take any kind of esoteric technology are actually you know a major disinformation problem on their own albeit one? That's a sort of a little bit less. Exotic than the deep fakes you guys were writing about. I think the cheap fakes are just inaugur of things to come and you're right. It is a spectrum and so you get your videos now that someone like honey Farid who we work really closely with. Would have probably little difficulty saying, okay, this this is not. From a technical matter, it's not hard to figure out that this is a fake but what we have seen is just the exponential growth in syndication of depict technology and especially the mobile variety so that it is soon enough I know we keep saying this but soon, enough it will be as cheap and easy to make us pretty sophisticated hyper realistic fake with just a number of photos and on your cell phone, and so that's when it when it fully democratises. That's when I'm really worried and it seems at least in talking to serve technology experts on the technical side that increasingly, it's very difficult for technical experts. When you don't have comparison video, you can look at when it's whole cloth digitally made up. They can't tell the difference without context you know history. They can't tell the difference between can real and that's I suppose why I would say yes, you're right right now were in a moment for cheap fakes doing a lot of Mischa. and. Because of our human frailties were primed, leave them. When they go viral and they're so visible if they confirm what we already thank their salacious, we're gonNA pass him on and we're going to buy them right in what I think worries bobby and I and quickly. Written about the three of us. Is that when not only, it's just not a cheap fake that you can debunk pretty easily technical experts can look at it. But in an environment where it's technical experts, can you're in a sort of post-truth environment? I think I I fear that. You know when time? Just right. It can do a whole lot of mischief to our political system and you know Quinta was saying. About sort of in an environment of like a no responsibilities zone rate, and then that leads us to our work. In thinking about section to thirty. And while section two thirty may do very little when it comes to the sort of political speech that we would say isn't defamatory that is arguably opinion parody. Section to thirty is still something I. Think you guys can decide if you want us to talk about it. That I think has to be part of the conversation in an environment or defects do a whole Lotta. Has a whole lot of concrete harm to specific people. So Jacob. You have actually done a bit of a study of these highly mobile fake video h- APPS and you and I have played with them a fair bit. What can you do right now? On your phone with an APP, you can download from the I tune store how easy is it and what's What is not yet doable. That's a question. I, mean as a first thing, you have plenty of choices. So they're tons and tons of these APPs that you can download from the APP store that you either can they sort of fall into two buckets? There's the ones where you can you take a picture of your face or you take a picture of someone else's face and you can sort of smushed them on a list of precept videos or preset gifts, and like most of these APPs, the choices are pretty benign it's sort of goofy. Video of the protagonists on TV show doing something Goofy, and you can stick your face on. You can stick someone else's face on it or it's a video of. Someone doing some sort of impressive athletic feats. The you can you know if you so choose, you can make yourself feel good. You know you are that person and then second bucket of them is sort of I. Guess you could. They sort of are more just like Photoshop APPs. So you can you can upload to separate pictures. One is someone's someone's body doing something, and then the other would be a face and you can sort of the APPS will sort of help you affixed one to the other and you can create basically any sort of image that you like in. These are sort of for anyone that has basic fluency with. Photoshop these APPs aren't really doing anything that you can't do photoshop, but it's sort of this instantaneous. I can do this in ten seconds put my face on Justin Trudeau's body shaking Donald Trump's hand. It's done right. So that's obviously one application. Those types of APPs have more pernicious uses. You know if you can upload any two pictures that means that one of those pictures could be something you know sexually explicit, and then you're creating a form of nonconsensual pornography. So that's a bucket of these APPs and on the other hand, these sort of preset list Gif apps where you're uploading your face onto video, it's pretty benign for the most part largely. It's you could say it's fun but there's also with any of these things. There's a chance for sort of privacy violations making mocking someone maybe even a black male video of it's sort of a convincing clip of appearing drunk or doing something stupid. But I would say based on particularly after during this piece last week with Quinta I'm sort of at the point where these APPS are. A few in the future probably something that are going to be a challenge from a democratic perspective. But I think in the more near term. Last. Sunday and Monday in thirty six hours things that may be required a bit more technical legwork. Someone had use a computer to clip a video but they're sort of not be these videos that we saw from scalise from skiving Oh there. They don't fall into the same bucket of things that people traditionally sort of center there. Rounders. You know play with from the APP store. But you sort of saw from a democratic perspective, these three cheaply edited videos or doing immense amounts of damage with very limited sort of work on the front and from whoever edited them. So on the one hand yes you do have these. APPS that are coming out. But on the other hand, I think this sort of past week was a real case study of. Right. Now, there are certain specific dangerous that are maybe less complicated than we like to imagine. Okay. So I just thought of three deep fake videos that I would to produce to affect the political system I wanna do them in you know ten minutes or less, and I want you to tell me whether the current technology will support the production of these deep fake videos. Okay. Donald Trump walking down a ramp at slipping falling spectacularly can I do it? You could probably do it on one of these APPs. I would say the other thing it would not may be all that convincing. It's still sort of like if you're a fixing his head onto the video of someone slipping, you're still going to be able to see that it's sort of obviously someone's head glued onto another video. So yes, you could do it. I don't really know how many people. You would trick. Barack. Obama's head on the image of a baby in. Kenya. Yeah, you could certainly do that, and I would say we actually saw something fairly similar to that back when the soul Mani strike happened. There was representative Paul Gosar who's a Republican congressman from Arizona actually tweeted out a edited picture of President Obama shaking hands with someone who he purported to be the leader of Iran, but was actually former prime minister of India. So these are the things do happen and I do think you could do that on your phone these days. Okay. Last one I want Nancy Pelosi in her voice. On the floor of the House. Speaking a speech that was actually given. By Kevin McCarthy. I will caveat this I'm no technical expert but that to me seems pretty implausible at this point that anyone could do with any sort of deliberate speed. Well Thank God for Small Miracles. Okay Quinta. So one of the points that you guys made in this piece last week was that the nature of Ati bargains disposability which is he has a ls. He speaks through a voice synthesizer made precisely the kind of video. That Jacob just said, I couldn't make about Nancy Pelosi makeup all because you could imitate his voice synthesis and you don't see his lips moving and so the features that make. The video that Jacob said, he can't deep fake for me about Nancy. Pelosi. Can kind of do about Addi Barking your thoughts? Right. So first off I I, WanNa thank Danielle for her inside and talking this through with Jacob Myself. 'cause we we bounced a lot of stuff offer early on in writing this but yeah, that's right. So Barkan. In OP ED in the Washington, Post described his own voice as Hawking esque is in Stephen Hawking. So, as you say, he has as he is voice assistant technology. So essentially, his his lips don't move and a computer generates the words he's using based on eye movements. So that means a couple of things The fact that his lips don't move I think is significant because. As Jacob may have been thinking in terms of Nancy Pelosi giving a speech that Kevin McCarthy actually gave it's it's actually. Kind of horror. At least with technology that's easily available on a quick turnaround and Daniel correct me if I'm wrong to to make it look like someone's mouth is moving at a natural way in saying words. So the fact they that bargains mouth isn't moving means that it's a lot easier to just add an extra bit of audio in without it being obvious that that's what you're doing. The other thing is that because the program that bargain is using doesn't sound like human speech that's not computerize. You know the the diction is different. There's less variation in tone it sounds computer generated, which is what it is I think to to my ears at least. That sort of overrode the the natural awkwardness that you might hear if you were moving audio rounds for, for example, if you wanted to not to give anyone ideas. But if you wanted to clip words from something I said in the last couple of minutes to make it sound like I was saying something terrible. Sound. Very natural. It would sort of go you know the and it would be all over the place and it will be clear that you'd edited it because the Sparkin speech is there's it's sort of Jerky because of the way that the computer generates it I think it. It didn't have that immediate sort of sense that you have own. This has been edited. I. Will Say J. as Jacob I, noted, it's a little unclear how specifically his voice was edited in The Washington Post initially sort of suggested that the video editor may have pulled pre existing clip of Barkin saying the words in question in slotted in Barkan suggested that. Quote s from his op Ed scoliosis team went the extra mile in seeming to find the exact voice generator us. So suggesting that the words were actually generated specifically for the video and that the team was able to do that convincingly because you can get a hold of the specific program that Barkan uses. So all of that sort of lowers the bar to making something that is at least initially convincing also say Daniel I'd love to hear your thoughts on this John Danielle may the very good point that audio faking technology is a lot more advanced than video faking technology at this point So there's the additional aspect of that. You know because the lips aren't moving and audio technology is more advanced in what it can do. That lowers the bar even further. Yes. Oh Danielle talk about that what can you do in audio that you can't yet to in video and also I I? You know with all of these conversations about deep fakes are in these in this case cheap fakes. I'm always compelled to sort of remind listeners that you know. The principal use of these technologies right now is less in the Department of political manipulation than it is in the department of abuse and terrorizing of girls and women specifically by the creation of fake porn, and so you know. While we're all here high mindedly. Danielle, on the political system, you know what's going on in high schools all over the country. Sure. Okay. So just really quickly on the audio question might understanding is that and I realize this may not be on the market or that is open source, but that audio can now be made out of whole cloth. The Digital Khokhlov can with incredible sophistication have someone's voice seemingly say something they never said so long as you have prior examples of their voice so that is slightly different in the sense of now. We're not quite yet in terms of absolute hope loss creation of video and paired with audio out of whole cloth in that seems seamless. Still getting there as to the question about what is it like on the ground? A year ago there were fifteen thousand. Deep fake videos online and ninety eight percent. Were deep fix videos in ninety, six percent of those videos or equipment. So women's faces. So essentially, nearly all of the fifteen thousand fake videos were deeply videos nearly all of them like ninety, six percent of them were of women's faces being inserted into pornography. Out Their consent and and Jacob Rightly noted before that that is a species of nonconsensual pornography depict sex videos and by my lights fundamentally invasion of intimate or sexual prey to see and ready guys. It's now a year later. There are now fifty thousand. Deep fake videos online, and again, same lineup, right? Nearly all of them are depict sacks videos in nearly all of them are women's faces being inserted into form. It's not just celebrities from the US. It's well known women and just ordinary you know girls and women from south, Korea from other parts of the world. So this is a global problem. You know, ben you asked about. So what's happening in high schools right I mean we have long seen mischief of course with the nonconsensual sharing of Saxe. Genuine images shared that were you have many more girls being pressured into this sharing of videos. Many more grosses. Intimate images being shared without their permission. But of course, it happens to boys and nine nine burner too so. You know your question about are we seeing depict sex videos rate of of kids rate so that it would be a virtual for of child pornography I imagine that. You know on the dark web. There is a whole lot of it right and a recent like the biggest child porn operation in the dark web was busted up a year ago run out of South Korea. On with very light, fine. So the people running the site and very light fines to the viewers in south. Korea 'cause they just deal with like it's a public decency problem. Not, they don't care that it has you know all about the rape of children. But even there. So I would imagine like the real child porn that's appearing on the dark web I imagine that. You know no doubt rate think about the kind of screengrabs. That's feasible. Surely would see that on the dark web. And do you see a connection between the political stuff and the intimate abuse stuff I? Mean? I have this reaction to both that you know like Nancy Pelosi looks drunk. And it's clearly manipulated video and. I don't understand why that stuff works in the sense that. Okay. So she looks drunk and then you know it's a cheaply manipulated video, and so you discount it and yet the human mind doesn't work that way and similarly you're a bunch of fifteen year olds and you see a video of your friend in high school in a pornographic video that you actually know she never appeared. And yet it sticks in the mind anyway, right it affects that person anyway and so my question is, why does this stuff? Why is this stuff political and personal effective? Even when everybody knows it's garbage. Audio and video the power of the images. It's kind of amazing and on the one hand we've Long said the power of the image is laudable about human rights violations. We can see something right we could. We bear witness when we see something or hear something we say we don't need to rely on third parties. We've seen it with our eyes and the same. What makes you know audio video of human rights violations so powerful so important. Visceral. You become a witness in it sticks with you it hard to shake which is proven by social psychologists. This same is true. Of course, with the manufactured his fix x video that what the victim is a punch in the. Gut. Because not only do they think that it feels like there are that there they have been sexually sort appropriated their identities wouldn't born. They feel it as if it happened to them, folks describe it as virtual rape. But also, they know that no one knows the difference. So that they're sort of their social identity. Is, forever diminish even as you say like people might Oh, that's probably not really Daniel Raver that's. Probably Jacob or whoever right but nonetheless, the impact of video in particular that image you know you have folks from Susan's tag to scholars film writing about how powerful potent images are. And they stick in our minds and their hard to shake because we think we're bearing witness in a way that it's not like Quincy told me and I told Ben Advantage, someone else and we have to sort of think that we rely on that chain of transmission. We don't need to rely on someone's credibility. So seen it and that's why it has such a punch. Jacob. How clear is it that the political entities that posted these videos knew that they were fake when they posted them? Is it possible that we're dealing with innocent error or semi innocent error or was were these clearly malicious acts on the part of stevescalise and Dansk? Gavino and the trump war room. Yeah No, it's a good question I think for trump war room and Frisco Vino. It's not immediately clear though I will reiterate as I think Quinta said earlier, this is not the first time that skinny no has been sort of found out tweeting these types of videos believe it's happened at least once and he you know has been confronted with this. made the choice to do it again. So while we may not know in this particular instance. was something that he's familiar with in the case of Stevescalise it's actually been interesting situation. So the next morning after he had posted this video, he got serve a primetime invitation to come on Fox and friends, which is Fox News from morning show in the host of Fox and friends asked him to respond to what they referred to as the accusations that he had manipulated video and squeezed while he's on air, he acknowledges that. The video was fake and he says, you know it shouldn't have been edited but he never went as far as to apologize and he actually kept sort of insisting that the underlying point that they were making the edit the sort of political point that they're making was correct. So it's not really clear whether or not scalise new at the time of posting that the video was fake, but he wants confronted with sort of. Multiple fact checks that made pretty clear that it was fake. He he acknowledged but never really went as far as to apologize is actually an interesting situation where in the past. I referenced Paul Gosar who had posted the manipulated picture of President Obama after the soul money strike in, there's this pattern of when people are confronted particularly posting political fake videos and fake images, but also posting pornographic or anything. Fake videos. There's an assertion that, yes I knew that this was fake, but it's it's clearly a parody, right? Like why didn't you get the joke? This clearly isn't a real picture of president. Obama etc etc. So actually thought it was interesting in this instance that scalise Sir more flatly just said, it shouldn't have been edited but he didn't actually he didn't go the parody route. He instead went the route of saying, yes, it was edited but that doesn't really matter because the point that it was making its descriptively. True. Quinta. If you were Steve scalise or Dansk Gavino or the trump war room at this point. What would the lesson you take from this episode bay? Is it that you got a bunch of negative attention as a result of it the negative attention exceeded the value of the video for how however much value it had. therefore, you know even if you have no moral or ethical objection to it, it's probably not such a good idea to do this anymore or conversely do you would you take the view that? Hey, it worked. We got two hours of a whole lot of attention to this that attentional stick with people for a while and You know who cares if we got caught those jerks who were upset about, it aren't going to vote for us. Anyway. Yeah. I would say emphatically letter. But wait why why would you say the latter? Walk us through the calculation that you would make and why you would be confident that the negative attention that the episodes received was not a problem for you right? Absolutely. So so this is what I wanted to get to and sort of pointing out scalise. The fact that scalise apologized I think is getting the because he is the only one who is a sitting member of Congress at. As Jacob I wrote in January I think along with Evelyn drag the House ethics committee recently put out a guidance essentially saying that tweeting depicts cheeks manipulated media may violate house ethics rules and could lead to an investigation. If members of the House tweet, that kind of thing I will know that the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee has filed an ethics complaint regarding scoliosis tweet, but I have not seen anything about whether or not the committee has has done anything so. For that reason, it struck me as interesting that scalise was the one who backed down because he's the one who you could conceivably imagine there being some kind of institutional push back on the part of the ethics committee on the other hand scurvy no and trump war room sort of gone on their merry way and don't seem to have showed any remorse as far as I've seen I think that that is interesting to me and it kind of suggests that. Perhaps, those going to be a sort of a split between members of Congress, who may be or at least high ranking members of who need to play at a little bit more on the straight and narrow and members of the trump campaign. Marinsky knows case the white. House who can sort of go ahead and do whatever they want because? No one's GonNa stop them and it pretty clearly seems like the trump campaign's approach to the election at this point is as you say Ben to sort of you know rally the base not worry too much about convincing people who were already convinced and if that's your goal publishing stuff like this, this manipulated sort of play on the fears and prejudices. And perhaps inaccurate beliefs of your base is a great way to go forward especially because as Jacobson said, you can kind of then when you know when you're called out, say, Oh, I, can't believe you're taking me seriously on that the trump war room account after twitter flagged the video as misleading tweet a to all the trigger journalists you can't take a joke about their candidate. It's not our fault Joe Biden was dumb enough to say this on camera. There's that that same kind of. Not even not apologizing sort of using the fact that they got a little bit of a slap on the wrists from the press and from twitter as a badge of honor as a sign of how virtuous they are in being on the wrong side of a fight with twitter on the press and so given that there's no institutional actor within the Republican Party apart from Congress and within the White House who's really willing to bring down the hammer here I see no reason why they wouldn't just continue doing. Danielle. One reason that they might not consider doing it is that twitter actually reacted pretty sharply to an now that has quinta says may be reason to keep doing it because you get to virtue signal your with twitter on the other hand having. The president's campaigns tweets labeled deceptive or videos labeled as deceptive is not a great look. So how big a deal do you think it is that the platforms are actually a particularly twitter which has been the most aggressive have been activated in labeling stuff and in even in some cases pulling stuff down is the change of posture of the platforms merely optical or is it significant here? So. I think twitter is clearly not gone far enough rate and I know I feel like I can hear Quinta and Jacob say censorship. that is if twitter had. It wasn't the business of aggressively a removing. Touring distorted and forget it forget depicting cheap fakes whatever distorted media that's demonstrably false in probably pretty significant our democracy let alone specific people. I think they're slapping a label. It's like putting on a band aid on third degree burn. It's just not doing much and the reason why is because social psychologists? You, know there's all the studies about. Even, if you say something is not true and you with the more that you repeat the lie in the lot even though the lives debunked people tend to remember the Lai special, negative, novel and so. I don't think this labeling business is doing much and given the virology and decontextualize ation of so much content online right at peers twitter with a label. But then it appeals elsewhere in a group text in three seconds and thousands of people see it I. Think we need to do better and I think it's it's false to call when a company takes down it's false to call it censorship in. Morbid. Sense of disapproving. Of powerful government taking down speech. But in fact, twitter wants to say their their First Amendment Actors meeting they enjoy for protection this Friday parties, they have their own speech interests. Will you know what first of all the problem is not liable? So you can do whatever you want and make a whole lot of money on really destructive content. They're more responsibility for it at all, but I think they need to do better. There, if they're gonNA keep enjoying this immunity from responsibility I, want them to really step up to the plate and I don't care if they're cries of censorship that I I love quiz line the virtue in signaling that you're on the ropes with the press like that I love that on creative is that something you sail timers I'm not reading it anywhere else but you know that has just magnificently what they love this. Fight Right and they would love twitter of course to take it down because then they can say on, we've been censored by big tack but the truth of the matter is damage in the long tail and I want to prevent damage like they can say whatever they want about censorship I don't know what you think about that. Ben. So what does your ideal twitter policy look like I mean if you were whispering Jack Dorsey. And Dansk Gavino tweets what he tweeted or or Steve scalise posts the tweets, the video of Audie Barkan like what? What happens in a Daniel Sitrim optimized world? You know. Something like an let's let's take rape those two videos they're demonstrably false right I. think they come down I get the arguments about. We've got to have policies and twitter's policy right now is pretty close to where I recommend rate that they say they're not gonNA take down Herodian satire, but they leave it up to them. It violates their terms of global terms of service. If it's you know digital manipulation that causes harm right now, what they've done without policy is in practice to slap a label, right they don't have to make a take down and I. Think you know In certain cases that do have a lot of high profile attention on them that do a whole lot of harm to democracy take down. Right and I realize it's hard to scale I know. I know there are swats is right this is tough to scale but but in a moment especially, we're off like decision choke point with elections like we're in a moment where the less disinformation that that can really shape views the better frankly for our democracy so I'd like to see them operationalize their speech policy Margaret. With, takeouts. We are GONNA, leave it there Quinta Jurassic Jacob Schultz Danielle Cetera. Thanks so much for joining us. All. The law fair podcast is produced in cooperation with the Brookings Institution. Our audio engineer. This episode is Zachary Frank of Goat Rodeo. The law fair podcast is produced and edited by Gen. Paci. Howell our music is performed by the one, the only Sophia Yan, you need to do your part to promote the law fair podcast, share it on facebook tweet it on twitter don't manipulate any video when you do that though. 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October 30, 2018

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

03:26 min | 2 years ago

October 30, 2018

"Good morning. I'm Jake Sherman. And welcome to your political playbook audio briefing sponsored by charter communications. And I'm Anna Palmer president. Donald Trump was on with Laura Ingram on Fox News last night and responded to a question about his calling the media. The enemy of the people. He responded by saying it was his form of telling the truth. And he watched meet the press over the weekend. And from his perspective. Everything was so falsely put putting words in people's mouths. Trump said the president also said the government is going to build ten cities all over the place to house people who are seeking asylum in the United States. And he said he already has events scheduled in the inner cities to appeal to black voters. We are one week from election Davis morning. We'll sit down live with vice President Mike Pence at ten thirty. Am you could watch and politicos livestream our colleague Alina Schneider's reporting, the Democrats are regaining momentum in the final days before the election after it appeared Republicans got a boost far. Following the confirmation of bread Kavanagh, one consultant Jason Rowe told her that Republicans leads suburban women and the developments over the past week have not been helpful Rachel bait and John Bresnahan report that senior House Republicans have tentatively scheduled leadership elections for the week after the mid terms a quick turnaround that favors the current leadership structure, November fourteenth is a date. They are considering here's Republican leadership scenarios as we see them at the moment. If Republicans keep the majority Kevin McCarthy runs for speaker, Steve Scalise majority leader, and there's a contested election for number three. The GOP whip between Patrick McHenry of North Carolina and Cathy McMorris. Rodgers of Washington state things. Get a lot more complicated in the minority. There is one if you were spots in the leadership structure, but in a close minority you to -ssume that mccarthyesque alise move up. If it's a blowout. All bets are off. We also hear that why only Representative Lewis Cheney is running for House Republican conference chair. The president first lady are heading to Pittsburgh today. The AP spoke with survivors of the horror at tree of web synagogue, the Washington Post looks at how Trump and his aides have struggled to have empathy after the massacre what the same time lobbing midterm attacks. Thousands of people showed up to adas Israel synagogue on Connecticut avenue last night, that's per the Washington Post. The New York Times is reporting that social media companies have not been prepared for the hate that their platforms have helped spread. Andrew studio has a look at how Trump has struggled in the wake of new domestic terror finding a much more natural foil in the two thousand sixteen election against ISIS to AP's reporting from the Pentagon Wilson, fifty two hundred troops to the border the week before the midterms in the juice. We've got a I in playbook blue engine message and media and JD frontline are merging to form. A bipartisan agency focused on communications and digital an issue advocacy. The firms will operate under their own names for the end of the year and will relaunch with a new name in twenty nineteen blue engines, Eric Smith, David Di Martino and Allison clear Fastow along with JD a frontlines. Trevor Francis will serve as founding partners of the combined firm, and here's what's on tap. For Trump's Tuesday. The president and first lady Melania, Trump will leave the White House at two thirty pm in route to Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. They will return to the White House later in the evening. Vice President Mike Pence is going to Birmingham, Alabama for an event subscribe to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook.

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AP Headline News Mar 26 2019 18:00 (EDT)

AP Radio News

03:00 min | 1 year ago

AP Headline News Mar 26 2019 18:00 (EDT)

"Talk radio news. I'm to Maguire. The FAA says the southwest Boeing seven thirty-seven max jet made a safe landing in Orlando today after the crew reported an engine problem. There are no passengers on board. The plane was being flown to victims, California where southwest is storing the airplanes which have been grounded since shortly after the crash, and he THEO Pia all charges dropped today in Chicago against pyre actor jussie smollet, he was indicted on sixteen felony counts including lying to police about being attacked because he's black and gay. Police Commissioner Eddie Johnson. Do I think Justice serve? No do. I think Justice is. I think the city is still old and apology, some smell attorney, Patricia Brown home. We have nothing to say to the police department except to investigate charges and not try their cases in the press. But to allow matters to be investigated. The Trump administration tells a federal appeals court it wants the entire Affordable Care Act struck down outcome that could leave millions uninsured. House. Speaker Nancy Pelosi says she wasn't surprised. Prize? I shouldn't say disappointment cousin discipline indicate some expectation of doing the right thing and never had that. Expectation. The filing was made in support of a lower court's decision in favor of suit against the healthcare law by group of GOP, led states Republicans have long said they wanted to protect some aspects of the healthcare law, including covering pre-existing conditions house. Republican whip whip Steve Scalise says the way the law is now people are finding the can't afford the coverage they need they've been rising dramatically for everybody including people with preexisting conditions. Who in many cases are seeing double digit increases every single year? Some people have ten thousand dollar deductibles, which makes healthcare unaffordable. This is AP radio news. A suburban county in New York, declares an emergency and bands unvaccinated children from public areas. Six months into a measles outbreak nineteen years after the disease was declared erotic aided Rockland county. New York executive Ed day says he's had enough. I am today. Declaring a countywide state of emergency day says for the next thirty days any unvaccinated child will be barred from going out in public is county. Just northwest of New York City has recorded one hundred fifty three cases in the last six months, and this is the longest outbreak in the US due to measles disease was officially a radically in two thousand says no one's likely to get arrested, but parents will be held accountable. Warren Levinson, New York, Purdue pharma, maker of Oxycontin, and the companies controlling family agreed to pay two hundred seventy million dollars to Oklahoma to settle allegations. They helped create the nation steadily opioid crisis with their aggressive marketing. It is the first settlement in the coast to coast wave of nearly two thousand lawsuits, I'm Tim Maguire, AP radio news.

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April 15, 2019

POLITICO Playbook Audio Briefing

04:08 min | 1 year ago

April 15, 2019

"Good Monday morning. I'm Anna Palmer and welcome your political playbook Audie briefing. Stay tuned after the show for message from jewel labs. We've got some news this morning on the US MCA front. Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell's trade team led by erica's warez and j costlo will begin holding listening sessions with the business community in the coming weeks. The goal replicate a similar process connel's team deployed during taxreform. According to a source familiar with the plan in two thousand eighteen McConnell's team push tax reform through with stunning efficiency. Backing of the business community will be critical congress to pass a rewrite of NAFTA. This is the week all of Washington's waiting for AG Bill bar to release the redacted Mullah report. No one knows exactly what potential bombshells report could entail for President Donald Trump. But the general consensus is that this could be a pretty bad week for the administration has leaned in aggressively on the no collusion part of bars summary. Here's the latest on immigration reform, Wall Street Journal is reporting that Trump and his aides are looking at clamping down on countries whose nationals overstay short-term visitor visas as part of their larger immigration efforts. They are also looking to tighten student and investor v says preventing immigrants from becoming citizens if they're likely to use publicly funded benefits the journal writes. John Bresnahan and had their cable report that speaker Nancy Pelosi said on Sunday, the capitol police and the house Arjun arms are conducting a security assessment related to Representative Ilan, Omar her family at her staff's safety following way tweet by President Trump. And Omar aide told them that there has been an increase in threats following the tweet on the twenty twenty front. AP scoop that president Donald Trump's reelection campaign will report that he raised more than thirty million dollars during the first quarter of twenty nineteen bringing his cash on hand to forty point eight million dollars. Mayor Pete how does official twenty twenty Rollo yesterday. The New York Times reports that Buddha judge has had the unlikely early focus of attention from democratic voters and donors while the post focuses on how buddhis- said he could beat Trump in two thousand twenty presenting himself as a transformational figure the post also has a look at how. How Bernie Sanders is trying to win over Trump voters and Kirsten gillibrand reported raising three million in the first quarter Elena Steiner reports. We've got a first playbook a big hall from house minority whip Steve Scalise squeezed, the number two House Republican raised four point three million dollars in the first quarter of twenty nineteen and transferred one point eight seven million to the anarchy see defend the Senate, a joint fundraising committee -ffiliated with Senate Republicans raised two million dollars last quarter and got big checks. From folks Ken Griffin, the billionaire hedge fund magnet who gave more than two hundred eighty seven thousand dollars Charles Schwab, gave more than two hundred seventy two thousand dollars Paul singer. The hedge fund manager gave more than two hundred twenty four thousand dollars to the effort. Here's what untapped for Trump's Monday. The president will leave the White House at ten forty m and wrote to Minneapolis Minnesota. He will head to Nuss truck and equipment in Burnsville. Minnesota at twelve thirty five PM central time, Trump ahold roundtable discussion on the economy and tax reform at one pm before returning to Washington subscribe to playbook at politico dot com slash playbook. Our mission jewel labs is to improve the lives of the world's one billion adults smokers by eliminating cigarettes. But youth USA vapor products dangers that mission and were addressing the issue. Head on we've stopped distribution of certain flavored vapor products to traditional retailers and restricted their sale to our twenty one and up age verified website, we've exited Facebook and Instagram expanded our secret shopper program to promote retailer compliance were advocating to raise the minimum purchasing age all tobacco in vapor products, including our own to twenty one up nationwide.

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GT RELOAD - Buying & Selling Used Guns; Scalise on Race for the US Senate; Pro-Gun Democrats? : Gun Talk Radio | 12.27.20 Hour 2

Gun Talk

43:53 min | 2 weeks ago

GT RELOAD - Buying & Selling Used Guns; Scalise on Race for the US Senate; Pro-Gun Democrats? : Gun Talk Radio | 12.27.20 Hour 2

"Stop wasting time searching for deals on the gun and gear you want. Let gun deleo do the work for you. Download gun deleo for free enable notifications and start saving. You'll find hot. Deals exclusive offers and more triggered. The deals gun deleo. Everybody tom gresham here. We're giving the whole gun talk crew christmas off so we're giving you this. Great reloaded show. Merry christmas six talk gun. That'll get you in here. Of course actually easier. If you just call. Tom talk gun released. It's easier for me to remember it. If you're wondering yeah gun. Talk talk about guns here. Rifles pistols shotguns. Optic scopes holsters cases slayings accessories. Pretty much anything it has to do with guns and shooting and of course safe gun storage safe firearms use training practice ammo ammo. Try to find 'em anyway you know what's going on people are buying guns like crazy out there. We got the new numbers. Six million seventy guns purchase this year so far. The national shooting sports foundation says we're looking at close to half a billion guns owned by americans. Crazy numbers understandable. Hey guns are fine country useful. Guns are life saving devices but right now they're such a run on guns. It's hard to find guns around talking about and so some people are there shopper. For new guns or shopping for use guns. Obviously one of the people we talked to all the time about this stuff is as johnny dory over. Dury's guns and janney you. And i were talking about how us at. The pipeline is just empty these days of guns. What are you seeing this morning for. Guy wanted a youth model six five people or seven noting girly and was born in any bigger than in manufacturer out there this morning. I mean not one with all your suppliers. None absolutely not realistically. That's the only way that anybody's gonna get anything without having to be here every morning to see what you got in is just put some money down and get the next one that comes in restored so really putting down or a real deposit and then just being patient because it can take. This is not a case. We'll have it in a week. It might be a month. They might literally might be six months. It could be but at least they know that they're they're on a list. And you know we should get as much stuff as anybody out. There should and Actually it's the only way that we're gonna have them able to get this. The product otherwise Out to check on it every day to see something come in and then somebody else on the waiting list with it. so it's just. It's changed dynamics a lot on what we're having to do to to fill the people's needs you know we need forty or fifty new guns day and we're getting twenty So it's been it's been main business have been good. The demand is there We've bought two huge gun. Collections are Month and a half ago. Eight hundred ninety three out of your mexico and radio. So that's that pulled us through real. Well october november. You know internet just Last week talking about a story. I saw where some guy inherited like eighty or ninety guns from a relative and this guy didn't know anything about gun didn't know what to do with him so he took them to the police department and turned them in. Because you quote unquote didn't want them to fall into the wrong hands. And of course where everyone. I can't remember what the police department ended up destroying them. And i'm just thinking. Oh my god you know I mean obviously you buy those gun store by those there but you know i guess the the lesson on that is if you have a bunch of guns and you have a collection rather than if you don't have anybody in your family you want to leave them to sell them for heaven's sakes and make sure they go through the process for those who don't know when you get a collection of guns like that when you resell them now. It goes into the system. They have to do the background check and everything else right correct. Yeah it's just like buying a new gun so really really. Low percentage of all men the wrong hands because they got a pass the background. Check systems and All of that on the us going just the same as they do on the new ones so he left a lot of money on the table. Unbelievable and could have ensured. They're not going to the wrong hands because the fbi checks out every single one of those purchases so so that kind of leads me to. If we're having trouble finding new guns. And i know people say well. Why don't they make more. I'm saying well you know what they would they could. They're making every gun they can make right now. Hardly exactly you know maybe you start looking and educate your cell phone shopping for us guns. Yeah that's right out there is He's been good in. It's on both sides of it so People that are looking to get rid of some of their guns. There's no better time ever because the prices are as strong as they've ever been on them you know we're paying Super premiums just to get merchandise in the store. 'cause we can't get enough of the new no there's people that are getting older and saying i don't wanna leave my kids or family with a bunch of stuff coming to the point of my life where they will. There's no better time than now to get rid of those guns and Reorganising and some people do that so the people that are out there looking for guns. I can't find something new which chances for break up some deals on some years to me to that. If you have somebody your families that you will this disperse. I know he's always wanted this guy. That's fine given that gun and do before you die. Put a will give it to him. Beheaded time so you can tell the stories and all that but the other thing is if you have people in your family. Think i don't know what to do this. It actually becomes a burden on the people. You've left the guns to now. They're trying to figure out. What do i do with these things. I don't know what to do with him. You're better off selling them now and if you want to give them the money exactly and what we're seeing we're seeing. Some people do that just to take that burden off of the family. Then we're seeing some people that had some collections and they're getting up in age and I tell them take some of the guns you're never using anymore and upgrades or something that you always wanted to go. Buy one super gone. Get some stuff and and clear out those safes and they'll go buy yourself something you wouldn't normally abortion enjoyed it as you get up there in salmon. Go pick on that. He always wanted to go. Take ten thousand dollars cons. Go by one ten thousand dollars on that you've always wanted to ever thought you could afford and which brings me to this other questions. What's the market like on higher in guns. Those are probably not quite as much demand as like your basic self defense guns these days here. We've seen that follow some with their the top in collectible guns in the crop conditions that still continue to do real well We thought actually there's The winchester robert guns slow some but they had a big resurgence that i didn't see common with leakiest. We got a bunch of those guns. Collections are nice. Whole drew about as fast that we've ever seen them. Wow i think some of that is i. Think some of that people just been home and not spending their money on travel and mouth going to the movies and all that and they've had some extra income in they're you know they're playing around on the computers and seeing what's out there and or that's found we had they just stayed left here in a hurry. It's funny you say that. I got some friends a couple and both of them used to commute like talking hour and a half each way a day right and now they're working virtually and it said you know we are saving so much money. Were not eating out. You know like we used to all the time. They were not commuting. And i think there are a lot of people do and they're sitting around going What am i gonna do with all this. Maybe i'll buy a cool gun exactly and have seen that we've seen that for sure going on On some of the nicer stop And and i've seen some people trade in some guards and upgrading. And so it's just a your more time on the computers and seeing what's out there and that created some demand that we didn't expect can and those who don't know your your store guys in san antonio but it's really a national store people can call you that can buy guns the perfectly legal for those who are concerned. It's perfectly legal. You ship it to their local dealer and you got a whole team of gunsmiths. Go over the guns before you let them out of there and then it comes with a lifetime guarantee which is incredible yet. We've got six gunsmiths on staff our and that's another part of the business that we didn't anticipate with this cold weather. People being home and going through and looking at their guns in april they brought guns infrastructure work on it rates. We've never seen before you know what it is. People looking to go spend money on now usually math. But i do love the idea of saying okay. I've got a gazillion guns. Gun safe that. I haven't pulled out. Some of them have not been fired and ten fifteen twenty years. Pull out a dozen or more of those things and say what's the would really like to have whether it's an rifle whether it's a long range rifle a cool something with a gorgeous woodstock maybe like high and shotguns of a bunch of their other stuff and take that money and say you know i would never go spend ten or fifteen twenty thousand on a gun. Except why wouldn't i just turn guns into a gun exactly and and when you get to those higher in guns and you get to those super quality in two per collectible stop they. Probably we're gonna increase in value at a higher rate and other guns that you traded in orange or anyway you know people upgrade and and do that and not feel bad about it and also market for us guns in a strongest itself. Depend if you got you. Think about getting rid of her selling they just give you guys a call. It's a call and we'll take care of it anywhere in the country. Obviously he's guns dot com. Do you are. Why do his guns dot com right. So you've been doing some hunting this fall you've been doing well. I have been doing point of dot. Cotton this last weekend at our place down in south texas and i mean talks fall in there they. We just had spectacular on sunday and monday morning and then My son kill the next twelve point here. This weekend So we're gonna go back this coming weekend and see if we can find one for me. That's again you know ryan. Of course our son my son. He took his two year old daughter out on her first dot com last weekend. So that's us you get to be. That's where truly all about going out and doing it with family. Johnny say hello to everybody. They're for him if you would please. Thanks a million. Appreciate you take your johnny dewey. We'll be right back after these messages. 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And it's for the the ruger. Pc carbon just send jim. That's a really nice guy. That's a fun little rifle. And it is and i not that i don't like some guns like almost all guns. Buy talk with him. He went out to the reins. He's checking on some low demand for its forty four magnum and he shoot them out. Ibm super red hawk revolver and they weren't shooting well thought well taken his chimbaila. This is ruger sim. Jato deer slayer rifle and tried those and low just worked perfectly in that. I mean i was thinking about what a great little rifle that was and how so many of us would like for them to bring it back for whatever reason they can't or don't or won't but which one of those doesn't mean we can't keep bugging them for it right. Okay now. here's an interesting story you know. Of course probably. You've heard of john lott researcher dr. phd dr john. Lott a number of books about guns and studies on guns more guns less crime of the bias against guns and some others. He's kind of been the researcher on the side of the second amendment to offset all of the paid. I call him phony. Researchers doing phony studies about guns that you get from the gun ban industry out there. Well this was an interesting story. The us department of justice. Yeah the justice department. It has hired john lott to be a senior adviser for research and statistics at the office of justice programs division. That's pretty darn cool. Lot says he was quoted. As saying i took a job at the department of justice. I'm really not supposed to say more than thirty. Told politico very interesting article. Says i came to the agency from his nonprofit organization he found in two thousand thirteen dubbed crime prevention research center. I don't know if i've ever actually ever mentioned it here. We made a sizable as in fifty thousand dollar donation to john. Lots crime prevention research center in terms of in-kind work with them a few years ago. Good group important research important stuff for us to to have our coined the phrase many many years ago intellectual ammunition in the debate that we have about guns we have to have intellectual ammunition we have have. You can't go into a fight without some kind of ammo. When is a battle of words and ideas and then often statistics. You gotta have some and one of the things that i'm seeing right now. I know you're gonna know exactly what i'm talking about. Is the weaponising of the word science. We're seeing with the corona virus. Well there is not following science. We believe in the science. The problem is of course that the science ends up being studies and the studies are funded by whoever has the money and the agenda. That certainly has been true. Begun rights side of things. For many years you've had a number of scholars again. Air quotes scholars putting studies in books. About guns what of them actually got big ward support. His book saying original americans colonial colonist. They weren't really into guns. Had all sorts of data except that when he never had a peer reviewed this. I'm talking about so people kept poke around saying what. Where's the data. Where's the studies. Where's the background. That's a standard deal. If you're gonna put out a study like that. Oh it all got destroyed. Oh i can't find it. Oh i don't know where it is. I'm not kidding it was. I had a a leak at flooded destroyed all my papers in the end it turned out. He made it all up after. Got huge awards for it. They actually pulled his award belie. That's been not unusual on the gun ban side of quote unquote research a lot of phony stuff. Going on out there a lot of funded by blue bloomberg's of the world s. Go talk to nick on line. Three out of new york state neck. What's on your mind sir. Hey tom I got a ruger. S p one. Oh one In three fifty seven magnum with two and a quarter inch barrel and um looking for recommendations or carry him. Oh in thirty eight special. Plus p or personal defence. I got a couple of thoughts first of all. I know you because you're asking the question to but for everyone else. Short barrel means shorter. Less philosophy generally speaking. You don't have as much barrel for the to build up speed so couple of things. If i were i'd have to go back and but i pretty sure that sig make say thirty eight load cigarettes. Become a serious gun. Ammo maker think sig has eight thirty low dismayed for short barrel revolvers. That would be one to consider the other one and so on the leaped to my mind. I was the honey. Badger ammo from black hills. Ammo the reason. I mention that one is because it is not depend upon the bullet expanding for it to work is a non expanding bullet that creates huge trauma because of the shape of the bullet. And if you go look at the black hills website. You'll see what i'm talking about but it's called honey. Badger ammo and in the front. Yeah it's basically scan of scoops if you out of the nose and description. I came up with. They were describing to me how it works. What's like when you put your thumb over the end of a garden hose and the water sprays the sides teach. It goes really fast. That's chris it goes. Through a mostly liquid material it squirts the liquids out to the sides at great velocity and causes trauma but the boat does not need to use energy to deform to work. It's a brilliant design and you also get pretty deep penetration with it. Which again takes me back to. Why i would think would work well and a short barrel revolver. That would be one. I would certainly take a look at and maybe get if you get a box of just try it. See how it works for you and your lauber. The other thing is about that. And this is again important in these little bitty revolvers. They are generally lighter bullets and they have a little bit less. Recoil which would be handy. Yeah well the dsp one the tank. Anyway so i don't have to worry about the that too much What are your thoughts on the old. Fbi load with the lead semi what cutters. I know it doesn't i. It's not expanding. But i heard you get pretty consistent wound channel and because it's it's lead It'll also go through bowness. Necessary kinda sorta and that's the honey. Badger is kind of a version of that. It's just a more modern version. Homogeneous bulletin doesn't have any lead in nothing wrong with that particularly if you can get something like with keith style semi wad cutter bullet those work pretty well. It's just a case of how fast will let go. I think i would probably like to see eight hundred two nine hundred feet per second if you can get that out of your two two and a half inch barrel. It's not a bad way to go. But i would certainly take a look at the ammon. That's more modern. That's made four short barreled revolvers. Pretty hornet hesam. Sig has some and then again. Let's say i would probably gravitate toward that. Honey badger at least give that a try. Look i appreciate the call back. Thank you very much. Our number here is eight. Six six talk gun if you've been out to the range. I'd like to know what you took out there. If you're taking somebody introducing the shooting. We love love those kind of range of course so you're always walk. Appears that eight six six. Talk in the meantime check us out on gun talk gun. Talk dot com. We'll be right back back with you. Re reloaded show. Because we're out. Open our christmas presents. Welcome back. Tom gresham here. It's gun talk eight six six talk and of course i know i know everybody says why. Do you talk about politics so much. Well because we have to house sleep. I would love to just talk about guns and shooting and ammo and cool stuff going out and hunting and taking the kids out to the rains and all the rest of it but the reality is if we don't pay attention to politics and what that means we may not be able to do those other. Things are certainly are enough people enough agencies enough groups working to take that away from us that we have to pay attention to it and the fight is constant. And you're not going to win it and it's never gonna be over this going to be constant nisa what we have to do a gentleman who knows all about that is united states congressman. Steve scalise is the minority. Whip in the house republican. He joins us. Right now. Congressman. thank you so much for spending some time with us today. It's always great to be back with you. How you've been doing a great thanksgiving. i'm good. We had a good thanksgiving hope to question for you and was let me jump right in. What you you've been a member of congress for a number of years. And i guess i say that as least as far as the house. You got a pretty good election. Didn't you were in the house we. We actually flipped at least twelve seats from democrats or republican. There's still a few more that we're waiting on but If you look these were all these democrats that ran two years ago saying that they were to be pro god per second amendment and then they voted with pelosi on the gun. Control agenda and believe me. They brought a few bills that take away our second amendment rights over the last two years and those people had voted by the way to take away your rights. Getting to your point of why people should be involved in politics. They were voted out of office. And and it's good. That people are watching how people vote. Because you can say you're pro second amendment but then when you vote to take away my gun rights pro second amendment and you need to be voted out in a lot of them got voted out a good point that i've told people for years and years. Look and you've been in politics. Been in the louisiana legislature in the senate and the house for a long time and work across the aisle with democrats and people say well. Yeah but so and so's a good democrat. He's a good good on guns now. And i say look i understand that but once you get to united states congress. If you're in the house pelosi is going to tell you what you're going to do and if you don't then you're not going to get the committee assignments. You're not going to get the work. You're not going to get the support. You're basically going to have to do that. So i and i don't know if you would agree but basically i've been telling people if you vote for a democrat in congress in the house your voting basically for the agenda of nancy pelosi or chuck schumer. Am i overstating that well. That's exactly what it's become about and in fact you know when you look at a lot of these people that went up. They said they weren't going to be voting with pelosi down the line and every one of them voted with pelosi over ninety percent of the time. Time when you're voting. Nancy pelosi ninety percent of the time. You're not even a liberal. Your socialist and and people are fed up with that. I mean chuck schumer the other day. When you're talking about these georgia's senate races. And i wanna thank you for highlighting the people how important it is but chuck schumer just a week ago. Said if we change georgia we change america but when liberals from new york talk about change in america. they're not talking about giving you more rights. They're talking about making it easier for you to to not only by a gun but to to keep the gun that you have in your house. I mean they proposing right now. He's thirty four billion dollar tax guns. That's that's just on god's the kind of stuff these people are for. Now it's crazy. I'm for for people to understand what we're talking about about a two hundred dollar tax on your semion each of your semiautomatic firearms and believe it or not a two hundred dollar tax on each of the magazines. That go into your semiautomatic firearm. They would make them all. Nfl items basically the same machine gun or a short barrel shotgun are right for silencer. Two hundred dollar tax on each one of those and some of us congressman own not one or two or three but in the case of magazines we may owns well over a hundred of those dollars a piece. That's outrageous right. And this time is part of their agenda. Take away gun rights. You know they recognized. They can't pass especially with donald trump in he's try the most pro second amendment president we've had in generations and you know if you look at what they're trying to do. They know that now right now with the supreme court they by the way they wanna pack this report if they win georgia but they want to be able to change the laws and they can't so they're gonna say if we just tax you out of being able to buy a gun. Many people that extra two hundred dollars it can be cost prohibitive and stop people from buying guns. The you know. They're using agencies like the epa in the past under biden and obama they use the epa to try to ban Let ammunition you know. Why anorak become so hard to buy. They go after you and so many different ways. It's why we need to be vigilant on every level of the political spectrum. Exact congressman we. Ask you to hold a second. I'm gonna take a quick break. Because we have a couple of things i want to talk about. We're talking with house. 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Steve scalise kind enough to give us a little bit of time today. And i very much appreciate congressman. Yeah you are. One of the very few people who've actually survived an assassination attempt. June of two thousand seventeen. And you made the point you were saved by people who had guns you were saying about. Two capitol hill police officers. Yeah you know tom. You know. I'm lucky to be alive. But i wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for david crystal that the capitol police officers who they're with handguns that were able to take down. This is crazy nut that that had a rifle trying to kill all of us because republicans and you know when people talk about defunding police by the way you know that gets personal as well because you know these crazy people talk about getting rid of police and You know taking away our gun rights. Who who's who's going to have the guns to protect us. You know you want police to call some social workers going to show up with a you know a pat on the back or something i mean th th this lunacy so but some of these people are talking about yet. They really do believe it. I mean biden. Himself said he wants to ban. Ar fifteen you know would would probably try to baidoa rourke as as as head so i mean recounts way with president. Trump's doing the fight months tried to make sure that every legal votes counted and they're still battling in pennsylvania they got a win kind of goes back and forth georgia. They're still fighting wisconsin. So you've got the senate races in georgia in january. But in the meantime president trump still fighting in the courts to try to to resolve all these issues that have been raised about what happened on election day in november. Absolutely and you know and people say well. Why didn't he just concede he said. We don't concede if you haven't lost and if the battle in his mind and i don't mind a lot of people. The battle is still there because we don't frankly don't trust what happened if you go through to the end and you go okay. It was a legitimately that worked. Because that's one thing but until we get to that point and we're not there yet you gotta keep working the fight right. The race haven't been certified. The electoral college members haven't voted yet And and that's what the process is. You know this this idea that it already is over. You know when you give states like pennsylvania still having very serious legal questions You know one court said that it's illegal what they did and allowing ballots to be accepted after the polls closed which was their law by the way You know and that's an issue that the supreme court's gonna be having to take up. There's other out there like that and again. You look at georgia. There's still this race in january. And everybody's gotta stay focused on it because on one side. The president court fighting There but on the other side to let chuck schumer take Take over the united states. Senate is at stake. And i don't think it's going to be a split. I think georgia either goes one way or the other. I don't think there are any undecided. Voters left in georgia. It's just whether or not you're gonna show up and if you're if you're a voter in georgia you care about your second amendment rights. You have to show up or vote early. If you can't show up on election day on january fifth please do everything in your power to go. Vote early So that your voice is heard and so that you're not going to allow the people like chuck schumer and you know by the way michael bloomberg spent millions of dollars trying to elect more people and he's gonna try to spend more money in order to try to senators to take away your gun rights to tax the guns that we have today and also to have a registry of all handguns because they want to ban ar fifteen but they also want to take them away if they don't take them away they want you to register them. I mean these people will not stop at anything. Mark kelly got elected in arizona on an agenda taken away or gun rights and and he barely won that race. Let me ask you to that very poorly in the georgia race. And it's it's been frustrating to me that some gun owners don't seem to take it seriously they go. Oh yeah they're not really going to. Our congress really really wouldn't do that if you would. And you've been up there long enough. Now you you know. The landscape describe the willingness of the democrats to push through their agenda if they get the white house the house and senate and the speed at which they will try to move just kind of paint that landscape. Boris time i think people still view congress the way maybe they view their state legislatures in both parties have people on both sides that you know i. I'm a republican also conservative. you know. We've got people have different philosophies within the republican party democrat side. I think people are still used to the blue dogs. The conservative democrats that would go up to washington and they'd vote to protect your second amendment rights. They'd vote to protect life. They were pro life and pro gun and they were fiscally responsible. There are none of those. They're an extinct species you. You'll find more spotted. Owls then you will find blue dogs in washington because they just don't exist anymore. You're either a liberal or socialist if you're a democrat in congress and i'm sorry it's like that i wish it wasn't but that's just the way it is right now. In frankly the socialists have been beating the liberals within the democrat party pelosi caters to the afc wing of the party. Much more than she does the liberals but this idea that there any pro gun. Democrats left They're they're they're not only not even pro-life On on the battle for abortion there for allowing a baby to be killed when it's born alive outside the womb and call that abortion. You're not in the pro choice. Debate there So that's how far left. Their party has shifted so taken away. Your gun rights is just who they are. They believe in it very very passionately and and we see these folks are. Don't think that they won't do it if they're given the opportunity and they're given that majority in the senate that was. That was the thing that's trying to get people say. Look you just don't understand. They really do seriously believe in this and they really do want to do this. And the moment they get the opportunity. They're gonna shove it through as as they can and right now not make an assumption that we're let's just work with this assumption. Assuming that joe biden ends up in the white house not a safe assumption right now but if that happens the the only thing stopping that right now would be the republicans maintaining control of the senate and that really is down to these two runoff races. And even if you're not a georgia resident where you could vote. Even if you're in another state you can donate money. You can help in some form. That's right you know both candidates In on our side you've got senator purdue and send your law flir The rip the two republicans. They're two very far left. Democrats running against both of them socialist That are running against both of them. And there's a lot of money coming in from outside georgia on both sides. Probably a lot more coming in on the democrat side. Because they know this is this. Is it for them. This is the mother lode. If they get the senate and the house they literally can control the legislative branch of congress. They wanna add dc and puerto rico state so they can get more more united states senators on the democrat side. They want to pack the supreme court because they see what the supreme court is doing. That i mean just look at the last decision made about a week ago finally allowing religious liberty in california. Saying you can't stop going to church. You can go to a strip club or a bar in california but you can't go to church. Sorry that's a violation of our first amendment rights and it was a five four decision. Tom should have been a nine decision. It was a five four decision. Would with john roberts. And we've been disappointed by john roberts for a long time. Now john roberts voted with the liberals to say you you you should you know. California gavin newsom can block you from going to church. You can go to a fancy restaurant with his friends. But you can't go to church with your friends and your family and that's what was at stake. That's how big of a deal. This is in these georgia races. Well congressman thank you so much again. I really appreciate your time. This is a lot of time spending with us. And just to let you know that you are always welcome here We very much appreciate how you fight for us. Well look i. I know how much is at stake in these elections. Tom you know what's at stake. And i thank you for letting your audience here. All of these different viewpoints. And i just thank everybody listening for for not only care about the second amendment and were exercising your second amendment right but also for for voting that way too because you both for people who are against your second amendment rights. They will go away there. It is congressman. You're just out of time i apologize. But we've got to run to the break here. Congressman steve scalise He is the house minority. Whip that message. Those senate runoff races in georgia really are as we keep saying. Four all the marbles. You gotta be involved. Even if you're not in georgia you can still donate a little money. Eight six six talk gun will be right back. Sure appreciate congressman scully. Spent time with us today. Yes suffered an assassination. Attempt guy. wouldn't ask you those all republicans when it was confirmed they were not went out and tried to kill them. All contract was shot seriously seriously injured wounded saved by to capitol police officers with handguns. Going after a guy with a rifle flows you say. Oh yeah well you're going to be any good against a rifle anything. I'm sorry you don't eight. Six six talk gun. Co- we called in out of anchorage. Alaska we thank you for your patients. How can we help you today. See if we still there. Hey hey. Kobe their guess he may have this. That's just rude. I'm just telling you we'll see we're getting back. We'll get him any anyway. Conscience khalil was talking about the quote that i liked the best. And this is a guy who's been in politics long time as i said he's worked across the aisle whose work with with democrats. He's obviously republican. Democrats who support the second amendment are an extinct species in congress. They don't exist. I've been saying that for a long time and say i wish it weren't true and he said the same thing was true. Used to not be that way. I can remember when people said. Yeah he's democrat but he's good on guns he's okay good on our you know just puts his party doesn't mean he's not good on our agenda weird they don't exist anymore. He said an extinct species and mentioned he said look. There were democrats who got elected promising to support the second amendment and then when they get in they vote exactly the way. Nancy pelosi tells them to vote. I've been saying that for years. They get in their thinking. Well i'm going to be my own man. I'm going to be my own woman. And then they get a little sit down and they get a little talking to just said. Look here's the thing. You won't get the right committee assignments but more than that if you don't do what we tell you to do. The party won't support you in your reelection effort. Primary somebody against you. You'll be here for two years and then you'll be gone so they turn around and like good little soldiers they line up and they vote against the second amendment. They vote for the gun band. They vote for the gun control measures. They do exactly what they're told which leads me to the thing. I have said for years of vote for any democrat for the house. Vote for nancy. Pelosi of vote for any democrat in the senate vote for chuck schumer and their agendas. And that's what you're going to get. And that's what they're gonna do now as congressman just says. Look we've taken back twelve to maybe some more still out there in the house in the senate it's tough it's tight right now. Republicans have fifty seats in the senate. Democrats have forty eight and there are two racist still to be decided in runoffs. And they're both in georgia too weird circumstance normally. It wouldn't happen this way. But they're both in georgia either. Republicans get one of those. And i agree with him. I think they're both gonna go democrat. They're both gonna go republican if they get both of those then mitch. Mcconnell can stop the gun control measures from going through if the democrats get both of those seats than fifty fifty and campbell. Harris is the tiebreaker. And they can run through any gun ban gun tax gun restriction. They want not just in georgia. Understand where you live your guns your magazines coarseness. What are you willing to do. Check go to win right. W. i n. e. win winter dot com. You can make a donation. We'll be right back.

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If Biden was President right now there would be no pandemic

Rusted Culture Podcast

10:00 min | 4 months ago

If Biden was President right now there would be no pandemic

"Fresh from the rusted culture. PODCAST. We'll thanks for Tuning Bankin folks. This is frank ever sold with the rest and culture podcast, and this is a pretty dramatic statement that I'm GonNa make but I don't hear enough of it to be honest with you out there in the media right now, and that is if Joe Biden was president right now if he were President There would be no pandemic. There would be no pandemic wouldn't that be nice. It would be beaten down just like it is in. China. Just like it is in Germany, and just like it is in Italy It's a simple concept. There would be no pandemic. The fact that we still have this is because of the incompetency of Donald Trump. In under trump's leadership, like Mike Pence likes to say if you can call it that there's no mask mandate while anyone's in public. There's a bunch of quack cures. That they're promoting and have promoted that do diddly squat. And trump has promoted a federal P P procurement system. If you remember back to that that pitted states bidding against states and states bidding against the Federal Government folks. Donald Trump's response to the pandemic has been an unmitigated disaster. With needless needless deaths as a result, it's chaos. It's pure chaos. In fact remembered Johnny appleseed folks remember back to your elementary school days. We're Johnny appleseed. When about I think it was Pennsylvania planting seeds for apple's that we now enjoy today many of those strains member that Johnny appleseed. Donald trump is the johnny appleseed of chaos and I mean that John Donald trump is the johnny appleseed of chaos. Everywhere he goes. He plants a seed of chaos one over here a little one over there. How about a little sprinkling on twitter this morning of chaos. In folks Biden were president. There'd be no pandemic. There'd be no chaos. and talking about chaos. Did you hear this? Let's talk about that. Let's talk about chaos for a second. We'll donald trump is planning on going to Kenosha Wisconsin tomorrow. Oh, yeah yeah. So tell me where has donald trump ever gone. Where he's had a calming effect on people. WE'RE HAS DONALD TRUMP. On. Where he's had a calming effect he's gone nowhere. It's never a calming effect. It's chaos. It's anarchy. It's drama needless drama that pits people against each other. In fact, it incites people to violence and and where's he going to go where they're trying to calm the violence In by the Governor Tony Evers doesn't even want him there. He said his mind. She doesn't want him in Kenosha, why? Because he knows this is true. To King of chaos is coming to town. The Johnny appleseed of chaos is coming to Kenosha. Where Donald Trump supporters have already injected themselves into riot with the sole intention of blowing this whole thing up. That's all they wanted to blow this whole thing up. Create enough anarchy and chaos. So Donald Trump can use all of that as Ammo to say he will never ever defunding the police Blah Blah on and on and on. So. No President folks, and you know there's no precedent in his right mind would purposely go to show with the sole intention of spreading chaos. To, promote his police can do no wrong message and it's it's horrid folks it just it's just endless endless with this with this president, and I have to tell you if Biden were president right now not only would you not be suffering with pandemic right now but I can guarantee you that Biden wouldn't be. Fanning the flames of riots either in Kenosha he would not. You wouldn't be getting all of this. You're getting so much with trump that we don't need. Don't want ask actually it. Ends up hurting Americans at the end of the day especially when you look at the pandemic. How many? Thousands. Of people have died. Just look today just look today at what the second ranking House Republican just did I'm talking about Stephen scalise. He's out there today defending a tweet that he did using doctored video. A interview between Biden and progressive. Healthcare Activists Andy. Saying in scalise was saying never mind the video folks okay yeah. It was fake. All right but But what the basis of my tweet is here, never mind that the video was fake. My message is still correct that Biden wants to de-fund police. Well. You know that's pathetic pathetic little SCA. Lease. Sad and pathetic. I mean, this is how deep they go. To try to push a narrative using fake video. The Difference Between Republicans like squeezed folks. The Difference Between Republicans likes gleason Donald Trump for that matter. and. This is a critical difference the difference here. Is that Democrats know that one. Yeah, there's a problem here with the way some not all but some police behavior, there's a problem into. That, just throwing money at the police budget ain't gonNA. Fix The problem. Never works like that. Throwing money at the police isn't gonNA. Fix It. That's what Biden and every commonsense man or woman America believes is that you have to realize problem exists and that just throwing money at it isn't going to solve anything to fund the police. Yeah. That gets attention. But the truth is in the middle here folks in throwing money at them. Without disregard isn't going to fix anything. It's so bad out there in terms of the disconnect between cops who don't get it. that. After being shot seven times in the back Jacob Blake was paralyzed. But. He was still handcuffed by police to his bed in the hospital until a public outcry. Until a public outcry and I'll tell you the truth you know it just like I. Know that public outcry didn't come from Donald Trump that public outcry didn't come from scalise lease. If you don't think there is a problem folks. How in Sam? Hill. Are you GonNa fix it F-. How are you going to fix it? So, talking about Kenosha, Wisconsin folks, and because trump is going to be hitting their tomorrow stuff like this is happening. MILWAUKEE. Radio or excuse me TV station W. K.. O. W. is reporting today that a Milwaukee Church that sent a U. haul filled with food and supplies to protesters in Kenosha was seized by the police. Inside. The driver and anyone else was inside the van, the whole van were arrested. Church leaders haven't been given any explanation saying that I have no idea how the police could interpret water gatorade bags of chips. In fire extinguishers as a threat. said. Reverend Jones Overton. So it's just endless, the king of chaos comes Conoco. So folks turning to the pandemic that wouldn't be a pandemic under Joe. Biden we pretty much know that schools and universities stand to be the next super spreader platforms going into fall we we. We know it. We know this into their credit many are doing what they can to prevent that spread from happening i. mean there are many. Universities many schools were to be honest doing what they can to prevent that spread. However However. Florida's governor seems to have another way of preventing the spread folks by allowing the Florida Department of Health. To keep the number of Covid nineteen school infections confidential. Well that works right just don't ask us how many infections there are, and we won't tell you don't ask don't tell will according to news four out of Jacksonville first. Full Week of school and Devout County school officials say they are still counting how many teachers and students test positive for the virus. But they cannot in will share the numbers because they're confidential per state law. And Healthcare. Law experts who spoke to the Jacksonville. Station have denied the statute actually e even applies to school systems. It's a smokescreen. It's a way to keep the information from now. To method of control. Again, we're simply talking about how many people are infected numbers here we're not talking names and addresses. But that's how Florida's trying to control the spread by simply suppressing the information good work governor to Santa's good work like I say folks if Biden were president right now the pandemic would be over. This flash briefing was brought to you by the Rusted Culture Podcast, and you can find us on Itunes stitcher tune in spotify in Google play or wherever you find your podcast. Thanks for listening.

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June 16 - Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Rep. Steve Scalise

NBC Meet the Press

48:05 min | 1 year ago

June 16 - Mayor Pete Buttigieg, Rep. Steve Scalise

"Uh-huh. This Sunday election interference President Trump says, yes, except information on an opponent from a foreign country. Oh, let me call the FBI. Give me a break insists everyone does it say have information I think I'd take it, then get slammed by Democrats. That's just dangerous appalling unethical, unpatriotic you name it. He not know right from wrong. And by some Republicans. Most people would not frankly pressure before finally backing off. Give it to the FBI, how serious is President Trump about protecting our election, plus the Democrats debate stage is now set both of the twenty candidates, two nights and brewing. Generational divide would serve us. Well to have new generation of leadership seven. People have a right to question. All of our agents can say, watch me. Just watch me. My guess, mayor Pete Buddha, JR. Of Indiana and growing tensions with Iran, the US blames around for a tax on oil tankers and considers deploying forces to protect oil shipments. I'll talk to House Republican whip Steve, Scalise of Louisiana and our own Richard angle reports from the region joint to be for insight and analysis are Mark leverage chief national correspondent for the New York Times magazine Daniel Plaka of the American Enterprise Institute, syndicated columnist, George will and Helene Cooper Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times. Welcome to Sunday. It's meet the press. From NBC news in Washington. The longest running show in television history. This is meet the press. Chuck. Good Sunday morning and happy Father's Day to all the dads out there. We're gonna get to President Trump election interference in our new poll numbers in a moment. We're going to start with the growing tension between the United States in Iran. The US is blaming around for attacks this week onto oil tankers in the Gulf of mon-, Iran denies it was responsible. And there are fears that hardliners in both countries will use the incidents to push for military confrontation NBC news chief foreign correspondent Richard Engel is in estan bowl Turkey this morning with the latest on this concern. And so Richard, I is the US allegation against a rod that they did it being taken seriously in the region. And with western allies. I think it is being taken seriously sources. I've been speaking to are not doubting, the Americans accounting of events. They think that the Iranians did it. They think they did it in such a way to show their displeasure to show their anger that they've been boxed in by sanctions. They think the Iranians didn't want to attack US interests in order not to provoke at least at this stage, any kind of shooting war sources, I'm speaking to are I'm not hearing other accounts of who was responsible so Richard there, clearly divides in Iran on how aggressive to get there's divides in our own country and the president and his national security adviser. I know there's concern of an accident happen happening. I walk us through the Iranian divide. So the, the issue is not so much an accident. We talk about this. Like we're on a slippery slope toward war. We've been put in this position. There've been a series of events that have put us right where we are right now. Let's start with the Iranian side. So there are hardliners in Iran who've said for a long time that they should be taking a much stronger action, a more confrontational approach vis-a-vis, the United States, particularly after the United States started to ratchet up sanctions put Iran into a corner back them into a position where they fear. They have no other economic options, they have been those voices those hardline voices have been losing out to moderates, but as the sanctions, get tighter and tighter, the hardliners are now in the ascendancy. So you have the hardliners there who think it's a good idea. Partly to attack commercial shipping in order to show their displeasure and to show their strength, y'all have hardliners in the United States. Who put us in this situation, who may have made the sanctions on Iran, so impossible that Iran felt backed into a corner, and it is reacting. It is very predictable. I've been watching this for a long time, and I could have told you, if you ratchet up the sanctions up to a point that they are unbearable on Ron that Iran would react, and the hardliners would get the upper hand and I think a lot of people around President Trump Bolton among the know exactly that that's how Iran would react, very, very tenable situation very quickly. I assume is a as US military, the US navy going to be used as a essentially a military escort for tankers pretty soon in the Gulf of Mont. Well, we could get we could get to that stage. President Trump said in that phone call with FOX and friends that the straits of Hormuz will remain open, almost at any cost, so US military escort would be an escalation. Let's see if it has to come to that. All right. Richard Engel reporting for us in stumbled Turkey this morning. Richard, as always thanks very much turning out of politics. It has become something of a cliche, that from the moment, Donald Trump came down, that escalator four years ago today, he has changed the norms of our politics, whether as a candidate declaring the John McCain was no war hero, or as president siding with Latimer Putin, over his own intelligence agencies or declaring there was some very, fine people on both sides of the Neo Nazi protests in Charlottesville. There's a familiar pattern step one stay or do something startling step to public and press react with shock outrage approval or all of the above step three say or do something. Else startling. Step four, publican press. Forget about step one wash rinse repeat the latest example, Mr. Trump saying this week. Sure, I'd take incriminating information about an opponent from a foreign government. Many heard that as Mr. Trump saying Russia, if you're listening, come on in the water's, fine, if you can help again, I'll take it, perhaps, the most remarkable thing about this four year cycle of these this one goes to eleven controversies is, how steadying mediocre the president's approval ratings have remained through at all. And our brand new NBC news Wall Street Journal poll forty four percent approve of the president's job performance, fifty three percent disapprove that forty four percent approval rating is right in line with where it's been in the past year with just one exception always holding between forty three and forty six percent, consistently all of which is to say, Mr. Trump style is both a weakness a strength a weakness because the controversies have kept his approval rating ever even reaching fifty percent, but a strength because with each new controversy, it becomes easy to forget what last week's fuss was all about. Information. I take it four years after descending on that, and Trump Tower and announcing his candidacy for President Mr Trump is preparing to kick off his reelection campaign on Tuesday in battleground, Florida, this week, he made it clear if a foreign government offer some help to win he will take it. This is somebody said we have information on your opponent. Oh, let me call the FBI. Give me a break. Lifeless. Director says which should happen, the FBI director is wrong is campaign called those Trump comments a directive the president's directive as he said a case by case basis, he said he would likely do both listen to what they have to say. But also reported to the FBI. But after some Republicans condemn, the idea of accepting foreign help again in twenty twenty it would strike at the very heart of our democracy. I think it's a mistake, I think as mistake of law, and the chair, the Federal Election Commission pointed out that taking information value from a foreign national is illegal, actually a matter of black letter law. It's pretty straightforward on Friday. The president tried to backtrack. Of course you have to look at it. Because if you don't look at it, you're not gonna know of its bad, how you to know of it spanned, but of course you'd give it to the FBI or reported to the attorney general still Senate Republican leader, Mitch McConnell blocked, a Bill that would require FBI disclosure of any foreign assistance, while Democrats competing to take on Trump. Pounced on his comments. Perfectly willing to break the law. It's a legal. It is legal, what he said was openly treasonous to form of terrorism. It's like the guy hates America. Mr. Trump's opponents are struggling with how far to go would you want the department of Justice, now that he's no longer a sitting president, to go forward with those obstruction of Justice charges? I believe that they would have no choice and that they should. Yes, there has to be accountability by Friday. Harris was trying to backtrack. Said that department of Justice willing to go and follow the facts wherever they leave and ahead of their first debate. The twenty twenty Democrats are each trying to prove they are best equipped to take Mr. Trump on gigantic mistake, if Democrats twenty or whatever number we have go after each other, but former vice president Biden's rivals are already playing up the contrast that are likely to appear on stage if we are perceived as replicating, a system that let people down economically and politically, then we could very well lose again. The same people say, somebody totally new, we've gotta change the system. Well, guess what systems work pretty damn? Well, it's called the constitution and joining me now is the mayor of south bend, Indiana presidential candidate Pete boot 'age. Mayor ditch welcome back Meath presser. Thank you. I wanna start with sort of the news of the moment that we're all dealing with a country here. What's going on in? The Middle East. Do you believe the administration is provided enough proof that Ron was indeed behind these tanker attacks? Well, I think what we've seen is compelling. There seems to be more information that, that we haven't had a chance to see it's a little distressing to think that because this administration's credibility is so low in general. I think a lot of people are thinking twice at a moment win America's word should be decisive. When the US says this is something that has happened in this is the consensus of our administration that should be something that goes without question. But of course, that's just not the case in administration that has been extremely unreliable in so many ways being said, this is not consistent with Iranian behavior that has been aggressive and often malignant in the region. The real question is, what can we do given the facts on the ground to ensure a measured response that will de-escalate rather than inflame tensions in the region. Well, what is that measured response that president Buddha? Judge would do at this point. I mean, let's I know you wanna go back into the nuclear agreement. But the nuclear agreement did nothing about the belligerent behavior of Iran. So what would you be doing? Well, the first thing is we would be consulting and coordinating with our allies. I think everybody has an interest in the region becoming more stable. Let me you their full our closest allies in the Middle East Saudi Arabia in Israel in particular. They seem to be in a different place on Ron than the United States. Well, our allies in the Middle East are going to be concerned, first and foremost with their own security. We need to make sure that we have tensions de escalate rather than escalate when it comes to what's going on there. But what we see out of the White House is something disturbingly reminiscent of the kind of accelerating drumbeat that got us into the war in Iraq worse. It's got some of the same cast of characters, I'm still mystified that John Bolton who was one of the architects of the Iraq conflict is set to be behind a lot of the administration's policy on Iran, as well. And it's not only allies in the region, but allies across the globe, who have an interest in stopping any pathway toward the Middle East becoming any more violent anymore unstable than it already is, do you take comfort at all that President Trump appears to pay more dovish about this, then John Bolton? Well, the president has said that he does not want a conflict, of course. It's very difficult to take the president at his word anytime he says anything but to the extent. That we believe him. The real question is, is a dynamic underway in the administration just as much as in the Middle East that could get out from the control of the president himself. I'm concerned about that, and it's one more reason why we need stable leadership in the United States and a stable, international community where our alliances our study. And our word is taken seriously at a minimum. Do you think it's appropriate? Would it be appropriate if they ordered, they had the US military, essentially in the Gulf of Mon as another way, essentially as a police escort for these tankers? You think that's? Yes, it could certainly be appropriate for US to use our Seapower to make sure that there are safety and freedom of passage in that part of the world. That's so vital to the world economy. You're obviously making generational argument during this campaign being the youngest contender in this racer. So the, the youngest top tier contender in this race. It's an obvious thing for you to do. Let me ask this question about Joe Biden, that you've been sort of ducking all week long. What can Joe Biden due to you to convince you that he's future oriented, we'll think everyone of us is running our own playbook? And I think a candidate of any age could speak about the future. But I think not every candidate is doing that. And the future can't just be kind of bumper sticker word, or some vague idea. We throw out there. I want us to be forming policies today that are gonna make sense in the twenty fifties. We're going to be able to look back. Do you think somebody and their seventies, you think somebody in their seventies can't? Can't have good vision of what twenty-fifty is going to look like in America. Of course, they can. But I think I have the best one in my plan is to go out and compete with it. That's a fair point. There. Let me ask you this about the president's comments having to do with accepting foreign interference. If somebody offered your campaign dirt on either President Trump or democratic candidate what would you do with that? Anything with that? You would call the FBI. This isn't even even look at it complicated. Whichever look you call you. Call the FBI look the moment that you look at it, you have implicated yourself and I don't think you would want to do that. Look, things are complicated in politics and ethics. This is not, and this is not the radical either a foreign hostile foreign power at successfully attacked our democracy in the last election. And there's no indication that they're going to back off from trying to do it in the next election. That's why it's shocking to hear the president say what he said, then again, he specializes in shocking us so that we can talk about anything else. And I hope that, while we are forcefully responding to the outrageous suggestion that he would do something illegal in that situation. It's not making us less able to talk about our own agenda of making Americans lives better off of delivering better wages, better, living standards, healthcare, and all the other issues on which Americans trust the Democratic Party. He needs. Us talking about him so that we're not talking about voters. Because when we talk about voters we win. We will call out his wrongdoing and then return rate to our message because that's what's gonna make for a better America all the way to the twenty fifties responded to a question about this idea of prosecuting. A former President Trump possibly having Justice department, look at the obstruction case. And you've basically open to this idea that if that's what the Justice department says, then they should pursue it. How do you if you're like the president, one of the reasons you've got elected as you'd have convinced the country, it's time to change the channel? How do you change the channel and prosecute? The former president at the same time. America can do many things at the same time, but it's not the president's job to prosecute a foreign president changing the channel means focusing on how we can make people's lives better. And if in parallel, there are investigations going on into criminal behavior by people who were formerly at some of the highest levels in our government. So be that's how the Justice system works, but the most important principle here is the independence of the judiciary. The independence of the DOJ is obviously not something this president respects these treated it like it ought to be his his own personal offer. So this test for your attorney general, you would tell your general look at it if you want to, I'm not going to tell you, which way to come down on whether to prosecute the former president of the United States, prosecution decisions shouldn't be made by politicians in that sense. And what I will say is any attorney general that I would point is somebody who will faithfully apply. The concept that no one is above the law that everybody ought to be. Held accountable, whether they're former president or whether they are somebody who's never been anywhere near the, the halls of power. That's the whole point. It's the Justice is blind. And I will appoint an attorney general and for that matter, justices and judges who uphold that principle if there is final topic. I'm going to get to your ability to win this democratic nomination in general. And if there is one whisper of, of you will that, that Democrats have about your candidacy, many are excited, but you hear the whisper, but I don't know can get African American support. I wanna read you a quote from the Reverend Rodrick read that the Indianapolis star interviewed he's a he's a pastor, the uplift church in Indianapolis. Here's what he said, I guarantee it's going to be an obstacle. This is about the fact that your married to another man. I guarantee it's going to be an obstacle for the candidate from south bend. That is really still a touchy subject specifically in, especially in the African American church. Now, I think it could be overcome. Because we are gradually getting to a point of, and I don't want to say except we, we're getting to a point of realizing this is the culture that we're going to have to begin to live with and adapt to it. I know you're trying to have these conversations with a lot of African Americans. How are they going? Going well. And we are working very hard to engage people across the party, but especially black voters who expect you to demonstrate especially when you're new on the scene. What your values are, and how you're going to promote policies that lift them up? I also think we have a moment on our hands when we can do the exact opposite of what the president has done the president has used identity as a wedge used race as a wedge to divide people who have common interests. I think we have an opportunity to reach into our own distinctive identities. And use them to build bridges to reach out to people different from us knowing that anybody who has been on the short end of an equation of exclusion has a way to sympathize with people who've had different experiences with exclusion in this country. And if we build a solidarity around that then people who have for whatever reason, fell's, a lack of belonging or felt exclusion or felt discrimination in this country, even though those patterns of. Women are very, very different when all of us come together, we win, and we are all better off. But I do want to follow up. I've talked to African American congressman who really liked you and want to support you where their their some of their more conservative, religious, mighty constituents who vote straight ticket democrat, most of the time would have trouble voting for you. What do you say to those politicians in Washington, who wanna get behind your candidacy, but are nervous about this? I'd invite them to look at what happened in south bend. I'm socially conservative community when I came out, we didn't know what the effects would be. It was actually during an election year. Mike Pence was the governor of our state. He was popular at the time. And what happened was I won with eighty percent of the vote. What that tells you I think, is that people if you give them a chance, we'll evaluate you based on what you aim to do what the results are with the policies are, and I have every confidence that American voters, especially democratic. Voters will not discriminate when the opportunity comes up to choose the right leader for the future people. I really appreciate you. Coming on sharing views with us in stay safe on the trail. Thank you. All right. Thanks for coming on. When we come back. I'll talk to the house minority win Republican Steve Scalise. Hi, it's Katie her wanna keep up with MSNBC while you're on the go. Subscribe to the MSNBC daily newsletter you'll get the best of what you've missed or in this unprecedented era of news, text MSNBC to six eight six six to subscribe. Welcome back Republicans about themselves in a politically awkward position this week on the subject of election interference, you might think stopping foreigners from meddling would be an easy vote, but Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell blocked a Bill that would require campaigns to report. Any attempt at foreign interference to the FBI and outside minority leader. Kevin McCarthy took pains to avoid criticizing President Trump's. I'd take it comment. So joining me now is the House Republican whip number two in the house leadership, the Republican sti- Steve, Scalise of Louisiana, whose book, by the way back in the game one gunman countless heroes and the fight for my life is now out in paperback. Release welcome back to meet the press, sir. Nice to see you. Good morning, Chuck. Good. It'd be back with you. All right. Let me start with this election interference Bill. I know you voted against what Democrats billed as HR one this large voting rights Bill, that they put together. But if they carved out the parts just on election security, there was an elect. Security portion requiring paper ballots, establishing better cyber security standards. Also would include I think what Mark Warner wants to see which is immediate reporting the FBI could you vote for that, Bill? Well, I had a lot of concerns with HR one, not the least of which were the first amendment violations. I mean you had everybody from the ACLU all the way to national right to life come together against that Bill because of what it did to limit, the, the free speech rights and religious freedom rights of millions of Americans. So that Bill is riddled with problems at puts tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money into political campaigns, something, I don't think most Americans wanna see their tax dollars used for. So that Bill had massive problems interesting that it was the very first Bill Nancy Pelosi chose to move through the house was a Bill that far left, but it's been an example of how she's run the house, not address in real problems. But let's insecurity. Let's talk. I'm just asking about just this election security, this was not a small event. And this seems to be not unreasonable ideas here when it comes to the cybersecurity portion of this Bill, what Mark Warner's calling for could you support that? Well, there's a lot on cyber security. I think we can come to an agreement on. I'd like to see details on how she'd work with us on some of the things we've tried to get through congress in the past that are by partisan dealing with cyber security because their concerns, not only for election security, but also on the corporate side, you've seen millions of Americans private data personal data stolen through attacks primarily from foreign state. Operators, whether it's Russia, China North Korea or so many others. I wanna there's a new store in the New York Times today that highlights a more aggressive tack that the US government is doing now against Russia in planning potential, essentially forms of now wear into the Russian power grid taking a more offensive approach rather than just doing this on defense. Do you support that new policy? Look, you've got to take every step possible. First of all, the make sure what happened in two thousand sixteen with the Russians attempted to do to meddle with our elections. When Barack Obama was president doesn't happen again in twenty twenty or any other election. And so I'm glad that the administration has been taken aggressive actions, including if you saw the executive order the president issued a few over year ago, lowering DOD to be more aggressive at making sure they can protect not only our grit, but go after anybody who's going to try to mess with our election security. It was interesting, though, I wanna point out, one, one little nugget in that story. Apparently the president was not fully briefed on this operation. I want I want to show you one part of this New York Times story about that. It says Pentagon and intelligence officials described broad hesitation to go into detail with Mr. Trump about operations against Russia for concern over his reaction. And the possibility that he might countermanded or discuss it with foreign officials as did in twenty seven. When he mentioned a sensitive operation in Syria to the Russian Foreign Minister, the president, obviously, was very upset about the story even getting in the public domain, as he tweeted about it last night. Do you believe that these officials made a mistake, not briefing, the president about this operation? Well, Chuck the president and the White House of already pushed back against a number of elements of the story. But the bottom line is the president's taking aggressive action against Russia. I wish that would have happened in two thousand sixteen when they were trying to meddle with their elections. But I think the message is being sent right now, if the Russians tried to take some action against our elections or any other country, we are already ready to go after them, and it should happen in two thousand sixteen on glad that the president's being aggressive against any foreign countries gonna try to meddle, with our elections, by the way, do you think that the Republican campaign harm of the house? A pledge not to use any stolen can't stolen material hacked material. I know that there's been some attempts to get all both political parties to sign these pledges. There's been some hesitation on the house side. Well, I'm sure they'll look at that too. I think it's real interesting that the entire basis of the mullahs report was information that the democrat party got from Russia. They solicited using foreign spies of all people in use that to turn over to the FBI. And unfortunately you had some people in the FBI with the political agenda against President Trump, who used that as the basis for an investigation to spy on then candidate President Trump. There are a lot of concerns, I think, in things that need to be rooted out within the FBI to make sure that doesn't happen again. Either turn to a Ron here, a minute, at what point do you think the president needs to go to congress to approve any sort of escalation with Iran, where, where where's your comfort level on what you believe? He has the ability to do now and what he needs to come to congress for. Well, the White House has been briefing congress on what's happening in Iran, and how this has been building up. And of course, this does go back to the Iranian deal. That was greed to in the previous administration and Donald Trump when he was a candidate expressed his real concerns with that deal, as so many of us in congress opposed, it back then, and even our allies. Like Israel oppose the Iran deal when it when it went through congress, you saw prime minister Netanyahu come to congress and give very compelling speech against it back before it was agreed to so what President Trump's been doing to make sure that we're going to stand up to Russia. Our sanctions, by the way have been very effective. I think that's why you're seeing Iran take action. But this shows you do you really want a nuclear armed Iran. I think this is why the world, not just America. But our allies in the Middle East Arkansas earned about Iran having nuclear weapon, this is what they did without one, imagine if they had one do you think the president has the authority now due to the AM f from back in two thousand? To the authority now to, to conduct a military operation against Iran. Well, we don't wanna see it escalate to where it is a military operation, but you're seeing the president take action to make sure that we have protection against American interests in the Middle East, including the straight there, where you saw this explosion, where the bomb was detonated. So the president is making sure that he's protecting American interests. I don't wanna see it escalate just, like I don't think anybody else does. But we have to stand up to Iran. This is one more example of why we need to be concerned about their actions before I let you one thing about your book, you wrote about the issue of social media talking about the person that shot you his post dripping with scorn and hatred, toward the Republican party, and President Trump and the responses to his post fueled him even more, he was living a kind of double existence while quiet and unassuming person he was angering confrontational online, a digital flame thrower combat. And when provided the anonymity of an online avatar, it's practically the same biography of the synagogue shooter on the right hand side. Of the aisle. Same thing, this, same idea, social media sort of taking over this, this man's life. How do you not violate the first amendment, and have these social media companies purge these folks before they commit violence? Well, Chuck what I've always said, is we can all our political disagreements. And that's what makes our country great. But when you cross the line and start inciting violence against other people that's where there's no place for that in politics in. So we saw in the case of the shooting in my in my case with the baseball field, shoot it as with others. You saw somebody trying to not only disagree with people politically, but then take it to that one step further where they took action and tried to take out in our case people because there are political police. Fortunately capitol police were there on the scene. Law enforcement major didn't happen. And thank God, they were there, and so many other heroes in miracles that I talked about in the book back in the game social media companies. Oh, can they get rid of these people before they commit violence? Or do you think that, that violation of I memorize? Well, that's up to each of them. And you're seeing social media companies take action to try to stop people from inciting, violence, or in cases, even like the Florida shooting where they saw the kids say, I wanna be a school shooter in that gets turned over to law enforcement. And unfortunately they dropped the ball on that case they should have been able to follow through more. All right. Steve Scalise, the number two Republican on the house side. Thanks for coming on and sharing your views and tie. You look as good as ever two years later. Nice to see you feeling great and happy, Father's Day, teach you happy. Father's eighty you sir. Thanks very much, when we come back election interference plus those Trump versus Biden polls that the president said didn't exist. Well, they do, and we've got the handle is next. Welcome back panelists here. Syndicated columnist George will whose latest book is the conservative sensibility in Cooper Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times. Daniel Plaka the American Enterprise Institute, and Markley vich chief national correspondent for the New York Times magazine everybody, I want to combine two thoughts here, George, we have election interference and what the president said at first, and then he backtracks it, but I'm gonna read Jew something James home in Rhode on Friday, that also had to do with the hatchback decision by the president. President Trump's announcement this morning that he will not punish counselor. Kellyanne Conway for repeatedly violating the hat. Check captures in miniature his apparent belief that the rules don't apply to him and his loyalists the way they do everyone else. It seemed to me that both of these stories are connected in that if he thinks it small and petty and has nothing to do with him or at helps him. Ignorant article two is remarkably spare and describing the duties of the president, and basically, they come down to taking care that the laws are faithfully executed. There's evidently, an asterisk over that says a hatchback doesn't apply. But with regard to didn't the president just repeal it. If he doesn't act. He's repealed. It. Yes. It's called a presidents do this. They call this force -ment discretion. Yes that they're, they're enforcing mechanisms are spreads them. Something like that. With regard to the election interference when speaker Pelosi says he doesn't right from wrong. She's right to this extent. He's a complete amateur in American public life and the rules norms are mysterious to him. Besides he campaigned on the promise we knew this promise was going to be kept it. He would continue to do what he didn't campaign which was violate all existing norms. So no one should be be appalled, if you wish, but don't be surprised. That's the problem in Washington is that is that Donald Trump takes, what are I think norms and and runs with them? The hatch act is violated every single day in multiple ways, I spent ten years on the hill. I can't count the number of times. I saw senators their staff violating the hatch because. Strictures are rather inconvenient. You can't do political business from your Senate office, for example. So if you wanna call donor anything else, you've got to leave, you're gonna go elsewhere. And so, of course, it gets violated the problem with Trump is that he has taken, what is sort of a bandwidth and just tossed it all out and said and taken it and taking it to the logical end which is violating. The thing is, though, that norms are things that are essentially respected within a very, very small bubble, which is basically washing tasha, public life, most people in America. Don't know what the hatch hatch act is. And they would not only do I don't know if they care not. But they would say, well, wait isn't don't White House. Don't isn't Kellyanne Conway supposed to defend the president's boast to attack his. I mean, it does there's a level of common sense that I think the president does align with that does win over a lot of his supporters, and yet he's chipping away at all these things, and they're the little ones, and the unintended consequence of all this. Could be come November that the losing side, no matter who it is doesn't believe the result. I think that's absolutely true. I think that I mean it's not just the hatchback is it's I cover the military. So I pay a lot of attention to Trump as commander in chief, and he has gone so far on the whole. Violating this whole principle of not politicizing, the military that, you know, the whole thing with the US McCain back in, in, in Tokyo when he was in Yokosuka when he was visiting last month was another example of this. And when you have this sort of thing repeatedly, I wonder what happens to us once once Trump is gone, what happens when you've taken so many of these accepted norms and ways of, of doing of conducting ourselves in how does the next person. How you bring it back. I guess, maybe they will introduce more codified laws. Let me turn a little bit to the president's political prospects. He's launching his reelection campaign on Tuesday. Those infamous Trump, Biden polls, while we got our hands on pretty much all of them, let me show you them and why the president didn't like that. They went public as much here as Virginia, Maine, Minnesota, Michigan, as you can see if forties, the best he doesn't any of those states with Biden, and these are all just bide and Trump matchup. They tested everybody, but Biden was the strongest and look at Biden's numbers there. Now look at this North Carolina Iowa. Hi. Oh, these were all three states that Trump carried he's down. Eight in North Carolina, seven Iowa. Ohio, just one. I think that tells you a little bit more about where Ohio headed there. We also had in Texas Trump was only up to in Georgia. Our source tells us if Biden is up six and he had double digit leads and Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida by the way, the camp, the campaign didn't dispute. The numbers campaign manager Brad par scale gave us this quote, all news about the president's polling is completely false. The president's new polling is extrordinary and his number numbers have never been better. My colleague, Kristen Welker now reporting right now. We breaking apparently the Trump campaign is going to be firing some pollsters, he leaving. They were behind this leak, George. These numbers aren't surprising to me. No shooting the messenger surprising either. In fact, they're worse numbers for him in the sense that in a dozen states that he carried twenty sixteen his disapproval over fifty percent. Those are states he carried. So if you have to bet your net worth on the next election bet on anybody. But Mr. Trump. Oh, wow. We'll just say after twenty sixteen I'm just not entirely sure that this soon in the game. We pay any attention to any of this. This is the president pays a lot of attention to this, which that is, what is sort of is. He can't never let them. He never wants to show weakness poll. He's flatlined is banned between forty two percent forty six percent. That's not it's not early to say that almost two years of this that, that represents is floor to ceiling. Here's a bigger problem. It's not just that so the ballot test job number and has personal rating or all aligning, usually a successful, reelected president has one of those as an outlier in a positive way either a winning personality, or they like the agenda. But don't like the person he doesn't have that. It's there's no choice. It's do like Donald Trump. Or don't you like Donald Trump and a generic democrat, he's gonna run against a real person? Well, this was against a real job. I think is a stand in for generic democrat case, and he'll be he will represent that remark. Well, no, I mean look, he's, he's someone people know, right? I mean he people know what they're getting with him. So he will be defined. But I mean look, if he goes against Elizabeth Warren against people, it's a whole different dynamic race. We'll say the president I have I have a feeling they're going to release new poll numbers that show. Just him new winning winning winning winning. When we come back, Americans have never been more United on abortion and more divided at the same time you see these new numbers. Next. Welcome back data. Download time this week's new NBC news Wall Street Journal poll, so the highest percentage of Americans who think abortion should be legal all or most of the time, but we need into the responses it shows a larger trend that has major implications for both political parties. Overall, the number of American saying abortion, should be legal all or most of the time has climbed to fifty six percent that is actually up seven points since two thousand eight eleven years ago, and what's remarkable is the consistency. It's up amongst all groups, the percentage of men, Singapore should be legal all or most of the time has climbed two points among women. It has climbed eleven points. It's also climbed thirteen points, Democrats, even four points Republicans. But those numbers don't mean the country as made a final decision on this issue. We noticed another trend in these polls. A hardening of us on both sides, this poll showed a record number of people who want abortions to be legal in all cases. But it also shows a big jump in the number of people who. Want abortion to be illegal without exception legal in all cases at thirty four percent that's up from last year and illegal without exceptions is at twelve percent. That's five points higher than March eighteen you can probably guess, what's driving this movement? The partisan divide shows up in the hardening of these views among core Republicans, those that strongly back the party twenty seven percent say abortion should be illegal with no exceptions. That's up nine points from eighteen percent in two thousand eighteen and among Democrats, fifty eight percent say they want abortion to always be legal that's up eight points from March of twenty eighteen yes overall, the movement is towards legality, not away. But underneath those numbers you see just another sign of the political reality in two thousand nineteen the middle ground has eroded and that might be because on the issue of abortion. There's not a lot of appetite for a middle ground. Anyway, when we come back, Democrats won for president. Find a common target and it's not President Trump right now. Back now with game. And we were telling you the democratic candidates have a new target, and it's not President Trump take a listen to how comfortable, some of these candidates are getting going after Joe. Bye. Joe Biden a return to the past he is. And that cannot be, who we are going forward represent the future. No, I don't think so. I think I think it's time for a new generation of leadership. Emma Kratz can no more turn the clock back to the nineteen ninety s then Republicans can return us to the nineteen fifties. And we should not try. Joe Biden in, in the in the crosshairs. Now obviously the rest of the field is figured out. The Joe Biden's ahead. It's natural political gravity. Right. You can't talk only about Donald Trump and frankly, Joe Biden makes it pretty easy foil. He is not Barack Obama. He's run quite unsuccessfully for president twice. I mean he was beloved but in kind of goofy, uncle kind of way and you do sort of wonder what I mean how you're going to work as a contrast item generation Lii and as all three of those Democrats just said as someone who is is just the return to yesterday. And these are three Democrats under the age of fifty five let me put up the debate matchups here for our big first round of debates night. One, the big name is Elizabeth Warren. But you also Amy clo- shar, Cory Booker, in particular, their Rourke, people that six weeks ago. It said, this is the big night of the debate. Let's look at night, too, which is the Joe Biden night. Joe biden. Bernie Sanders, comma Harris, Pete Buddha ginger one two three four let alone. Also, your Marianne Williamson's and Andrew. Gang there. George will you look at those lineups should Elizabeth Warren be happy that she's not that she gets a night essentially as the front runner. I front runner of the of the debate, she's participating sure to not be on the stage with Biden, and she can assume that the other nine people who are on the stage with Biden, we'll do their duty which is to treat him as opinion in somewhere and she stands above it, and they'll be lots of other debates down the road when she'll be next to him by, then he will be scarred. It's really interesting Helene in our poll. We're showing Lisbeth warns on the move a little bit. I wanna show we've been testing all of these candidates. Are you enthusiastic about the idea of this person running for president? This is just among democratic primary voters, we've been testing this all for the first six months, and he's, you can see here, Biden Sanders. Their enthusiasm numbers have dropped since March. Elizabeth warns enthusiasm number has gone up since March, in fact, more enthusiastic among democratic primary voters for her than the other. Two. That's that was really interesting. See her jump over Bernie Sanders as well. But I think she has she still has a lot of room to move up. I think on the Biden issue is just it's, it's to me, it feels just really obvious. These guys are all going after Biden, because he's the guy to beat is not at this point, you know, there's a, there's a reason while he why he has assumed this front runner status so listening to judge, and listening to beta Arar work as they're taking on Joe Biden. There's a lot of concern, and they feel that this is who they're going to have to defeat in order to, to, to win the nomination like this. Because you know why? Because the Republican the Republican party in the in the run up to the last election was just such an awful spectacle watching one person after another go after each other in this circular firing squad. So I actually feel a little bad for poor old, Joe Biden, and of course, Joe Biden is old, but so is Bernie Sanders. And by the way. Elizabeth Warren, by the way, the same age of Hillary Clinton states been can be double edged sword it can be, but you know what, what we're going to watch for the next year and a half is the Democrats going after their number one person in the poll, so Elizabeth Warren, they're coming for you. Yeah. Doesn't matter how many of the Democrats attack Biden as long as Trump keeps attacking by. He can be happy nineteen sixty six Nixon's campaigning around the country for leaders, then gets under Lyndon Johnson skin Lyndon Johnson denounces him as a chronic campaigner, making him the focus of all the Republicans. And he went on to be elected. Well, that is something that is interesting here Mark leave. The Trump campaign has been trying to get the president to direct tweets at people other than by go after Warren again, and he's kind of go after Bernie, do something to make the Democrats have to own the farther left candidates, rather than I think that that's right. We'll look Donald Trump looks polls. We know that polls now. He's very present focus, right? He sees these polls, and he sees Biden against him. So he's going to focus on Joe Biden. I don't think the president of real, I mean, I think the president is, I think, frankly struggling on how to define Joe Biden. Joe Joe Biden is so chain known entities. Certainly in America, and the Democratic Party. And don't Trump has an easier time talking about people who are out in the public sphere is he's been. He's not gonna second. I don't know why his campaign second guessing him so much. This is the one thing that he actually has shown seems to have a little bit of gut instinct has a good feel for right? So he's got after Biden. Now, it'll be after whoever's next when the time comes it is interesting how he's very dismissive of, comma Harris and compete Buddha Detroit now and I kind of don't understand why he's being that dismissive right now of both of them knows Joe Biden, because he's used to going after he hasn't been able to come up with a good enough name. The Alfred Newman, one didn't work peach, put a judge sort of embraced it. So that didn't really work for him. Sleepy. Joe hasn't really necessarily worth that will that will either, but he's more comfortable going after the people come Harris, I think will definitely be problematic for him because that's that, that one where he's going to have to really temper his his natural. Oil sort of sexist tendencies. That's my curiosity. I think he doesn't know yet both the you're right about coming, I, but I think the same thing with Buddha JR. He they have not figured out how to go after this guy. Sleepy. I wanted to sleep president. No, I think that's right. I think that he's uneasy when he cannot pigeonhole somebody. The other thing about Elizabeth Warren, I mean, just to sort of not talk about this much of a horse race is one of the reasons she's doing better as people say that she's actually running very good campaign. I mean these are these. Shea yesterday. A plan for that. And people like applauded people are noticing. She's playing a little tortoise here. That seems to be working guys. Thank you very much. That's all we have for today. Thank you for watching happy, Father's Day. All you dads out there and remember we'll be back next week because if it's Sunday, it's meet the press. Cast Rosenberg is based on a simple premise thoughtful conversations with interesting people like Jim Komi, Lisa, Monaco, and pre Perot are each of them, took an oath as I did to support defend the constitution of the United States, the oath with Chuck, Rosenberg. Listen for free wherever you get your podcast.

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"In this Sunday the impeachment debate trail of his oath of office betrayal of our national security and betrayal of the Integrity Speaker Nancy Pelosi announces a formal impeachment inquiry as details emerge from a whistleblower about president trump's July phone call with Ukraine's president. It's hard to imagine the more serious of allegations than those contained in the complaint the president saying I would like you to do us a favor though and urging an investigation of Joe Biden didn't as he withheld military. It's another witch hunt here. We go again. Democrats go on the attack. It's very serious. Conduct it undermines the national security sits devastating most Republicans defend the present from my point of view to impeach any president over a phone call like this could insane totally appropriate up nothing that but some cracks emerge I wanNA say the president. This is not okay it isn't that conversation is not okay my guest this morning Adam Schiff chairman of the House Intelligence Committee the number two house Republican Steve Scalise and the former US ambassador to Russia Michael mcfaul plus the politics of impeachment peril for the president and for Joe Biden he will stop at nothing to hold onto power does bein emerge damage or as a more sympathetic figure joining me for inside an analysis Arya Michel Sin or White House correspondent for PBS News Hour Mark Lepage chief national correspondent for The New York Times magazine Presidential Historian Doris Kearns Goodwin and Hugh Hewitt Post on the Salem Radio Network welcome welcome to Sunday and a special edition of meet the press from NBC News in Washington the longest running show in television history. It is a special edition of meet the Chuck Todd Good Sunday morning for anyone on either side of the red blue divide who was frustrated by the pace of the investigation negation ten days in September provided a staggering turn of events. It was just last week. The Washington Post broke the whistle blower story about President Trump's phone call with Ukraine's president immediately support among House Democrats for impeachment proceedings exploded into a majority of the house leaving Nancy Pelosi no choice but to do a progressives had demanded handed and she had resisted for so long announce a formal impeachment inquiry rather than a drip drip. There's been a gusher of bad news for the president since then and it's important to note that Republicans have avoided pushing back on the substance of the whistle blowers charges. There's a lot we don't know at this point. We don't know all the details that could emerge in an impeachment in case against President Trump. We don't know with any certainty that Republicans will rally around Mr trump as they did so comfortably the last time and we don't know whether Mr Trump's faceless charges about Joe Biden and Ukraine we'll make by name more sympathetic or tarnish him to the benefit of another Democratic candidate like Elizabeth Warren but there is something that both sides think they do know that this new crisis is easier to understand and presents a greater threat to the president than the Muller Investigation ever forget we cannot ignore our oath of office to protect and defend the Constitution House Speaker Nancy Pelosi announcing a formal impeachment inquiry after months of resistance following the revelation that the president crusher Ukraine's president to investigate political opponent Joe Biden while withholding military aid it is hard to imagine a more fundamental of use of that office the witch hunt here we go again on Wednesday. The White House released detailed notes from that July twenty-fifth call with Ukraine's president after presidents Alinsky expressed his desire for more military equipment including Javelin anti-tank missiles president trump responded. I would like you to do us a favor though asking Ukraine to investigate the two thousand sixteen election and unfounded conspiracies about Joe Biden and his son presents alinsky raises the question of defensive aid and within minutes the President United States is asking him to investigate Joe Biden. You will stop at nothing and to hold onto power. It's not surprising that I've become the object of his attention on Thursday another bombshell the CIA whistleblower complaint made public detailing and nine pages allegations that the president is using the power of his office to solicit interference from a foreign country in the twenty twenty twenty. US election describing months of contacts between the president's personal attorney Rudy Giuliani whom the whistle blower names more than thirty times and Ukrainian officials and alleging that White House officials attempted to lock down the record of the call hiding it in a highly classified computer system now. There's a cover the cover up by late Friday. How Democrats had already subpoenaed Secretary of State Mike Pompeo for documents and scheduled depositions with five State Department officials named aimed in the whistleblower complaint you willing to testify in front of Congress well? There's a lot of problems with that. I mean would I like to testify until my story sure. There are things that that I can't testify to because I'm a warrior inside the West Wing. There is rising anxiety unease and concern most Republicans in Congress have defended the president when I think of whistleblower blur complaints I think of somebody who saw something that was long and came forward to say so this is hearsay information but small cracks cracks are already emerging. I did read the transcript it remains troubling in the extreme Republicans ought not to be rushing to circle the wagons and say there's. There's no there there when there's obviously lots that's very troubling there and even some trump allies are beginning to question. Giuliani's role is wild as large hair. He's a smart guy I but he's he's he's a free range chicken. I mean he just kind of gets on out there and joining me now from Greenville South Carolina's the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee the man. It's likely leading most of this investigation Democrat Adam Schiff of California congressman. Welcome back to meet the press. Thank you great with you. let me start with the whistle blowers complaint it. Does I feel as if it is your roadmap. I think you've said it's the roadmap for the investigation. How much of your investigation is about the specifics of what the president did ahead with the aid with Ukraine with Rudy Giuliani and how much of your investigation is about the attempt to keep that from you well? I think really the the gravity of the offence here is the president using the power of his office to coerce a foreign nation into helping his presidential campaign to once again interfere appear in our election and at the same time withholding foreign aid that country so desperately needs to fight off who the Russians that to me is the the most serious constellation of issues and I know that many people have suggested and it may have been true in the past that the cover up is the bigger crime. Sometimes the cover up is the easier crime to improve but here yes the cover up is very serious but I don't WanNa lose sight of that fundamental breach of the presence oath of office the duty to defend our country country our Constitution and here the president is once again not just inviting but coercing a four nation to get involved to try to help him and yet another the presidential election so to me. That's the most serious set of offenses in order to get the full picture. You're going to have to get the testimony of apparently Komo quite a few White House officials there unnamed in the whistle blower report Do you expect to end up fighting over things like executive privilege and attorney client privilege to the point that you may not get all the facts. I have to expect that they're going to fight US tooth and nail but we're going to start. We have the hearing on Friday for example. closed session with the Inspector General. There's a second time we're bringing you. Bring him in now that we have the whistleblower complaint the plane to go through what steps that he took to corroborate the information that complaint what witnesses that he spoke with so that we can follow up with those those witnesses ourselves will the White House fight us on this. I have to imagine they're going to fight tooth and nail and yet even as they do the more that they fight to try why do prevent and obstruct the lawful functions of Congress the more they're going to make a case for impeachment on obstruction of Justice of Congress of you've got the Roy. Is that why you put that in your release that basically you're going to take any attempts at preventing somebody from testifying before your committee that you believe legitimately has some information to shed light on what happened you will treat that as an obstruction of justice we will treat that as evidence insist obstruction of justice as evidence of obstructing the lawful functions of Congress because the president can't have it both ways he can't both prevent us from getting evidence us on these serious underlying crimes who are potential crimes this serious breach of his oath of office and at the same time obstruct or our investigation so even as he tries to weaken our ability to get facts on one. He's going to strengthen the facts on the other. You know the whistle blower yet I don't have you met them. I don't know the no okay no do you windy you expect first of all do you expect the whistle blower to testify and if so when yes and I hope very soon excuse me and I hope very soon all that needs to be done at this point is it's to make sure that the attorneys that represent the whistle blower get the clearances that they need to be able to accompany the whistle blower testimony and that we figure out the list logistics to make sure that we protect the identity of the whistleblower. That's our paramount concern here. This whistleblowers done obviously a cardinal service the country by exposing thing wrongdoing of the most serious kind a breach of the president's duty the country that endangers our security and he's got to be worried about his own security right right now with the president issuing threats like the other day your committee has seen material end up in the White House before and up with the president's team before. Are you confident that your committee can protect the identity everybody in your committee on both sides of the out can protect the identity of this whistleblower from from the ire of the president well. I'm certainly GonNa do everything humanly possible is chair to make sure that that's what happens and yes we have been concerned for some time about back channels between are now minority and the White House and fact the maybe in front channels not just back channels. This is serious business here. The president has suggested that people like this whistleblower should be treated the way that we used to treat spies and traitors and we used to execute spies and traders. There's no messing around here and what's more we WANNA protect this whistle blower but we also Wanna courage others that are aware aware of this wrongdoing or other wrongdoing okay to come forward and that's a vital interest of ours as well. There are three phone calls to phone calls in one meeting reading that the president is had with Vladimir Putin. Actually all of them have taken place since the election of the Ukrainian President Jelenski a phone call a May third the meeting on June twenty eighth and a phone call on July thirty first six which by the way six days after the Zilenski phone call in question. Do you think you'll ever know the contents of that commerce of any of those conversations. I certainly hope that we could find out again. The paramount need here is to protect the national security than I'd states and see whether in the conversations with other world leaders ended particular with Putin that the president was also undermining our security in a way that he thought would personally benefit his campaign. If those conversations with Putin or with other world leaders are sequestered in that that same electronic file that is meant for covert action not meant for this if there's an effort to hide those and cover those up yes. We're determined to find out if you're trying to be a speedy with this investigation while also being thorough. Is there a point where you just have have to you have to wrap things up. You have to be done with whatever you can investigate by a date certain I keep hearing the word Thanksgiving thrown around is that is that the timetable all the public should expect we haven't set a timetable except that we want to do this as urgently as possible we also recognize though the gravity of this situation relation and that is gonNA take some time to get the full facts and be able to flesh them out chuck. I will say this having worked on investigations as a prosecutor Peter Before I was in Congress there is an act natural rhythm to investigation and you get to way points where the next increment of evidence you're going to get may take quite a bit of time and we'll get to those way points. We're GONNA have to make a decision. Do we need to have a consensus now about where we are and what this means that whether we need to travel down the road of articles articles of impeachment or do we have time to do more work. I'm curious what you think of the argument that says no matter where you are an especially if you are there you think the president should me thrown out of office that because we're so close to November twenty twenty that the election is the better place for that to happen. What do you say to those making that argument? You Know Chuck. I was making that argument myself until these facts came to light that this is an extraordinary remedy should only be using extraordinary circumstances but hear what the president has done is such such an egregious character that there's a real risk in not moving forward with impeachment and I think when you look at the fact that the president engaged in this conduct with presidents Alinsky a corrupt on the president's part Linski part the day after the Muller hearing and the lesson appears to have received is that he can do whatever he wants. He can violate his oath of office. He can refuse to defend our constitution. He invite further foreign interference events in our affairs he can try to cover up and they'll be no consequence no accountability and that is simply too dangerous to be left that way and so Oh yes I certainly think that the gravity of the situation demands that we move forward with the inquiry okay on and and we'll have to determine with that also means return of articles we expecting to see Rudy Giuliani testify. I don't want to commit myself to that. At this point. We certainly need to do a lot work to find out what Giuliani has been doing in Ukraine and appears from that conversation that Ukraine president understood what was going to be asked of him on that call and that very likely was the result of work that Rudy Giuliani and some of his minions. We're doing in Ukraine so we're going to need to get to the bottom of it whether it will be productive to bring him in. We'll make make that decision down the Road Adam Schiff the man. That's going to be charged with leading most of this investigation on the House Intelligence Committee. Thanks for coming on in abuse much appreciate it. Thanks Jack Joining we now from Kenner Louisiana is the number two Republican in the house. Steve scalise of Louisiana Congressman scalise welcome back to meet the Presser Chuck. It'll be back with you Doodoo you do an accident on email. We know some talking points that the White House has sent over to House Republicans including the defense that they have is saying there was no quid pro quo in the phone call that that in itself should be enough to stave off of impeachment but I am curious. When you hear the phrase? I want you to do us a favor though and you know again I think the president of Ukraine has the Internet so we knew that aid was frozen. It's how do you interpret it. If it's not a quid quit pro quo. How do you interpret it? I needed to do as a favor though well first of all chuck if you read that sentence what the president is talking about is crowd strike he's talking talking about. The two thousand sixteen is that made with our election better president trump. President trump is trying to look into the interference by Russia so it doesn't happen again and I thought you would want to be concerned about making sure that doesn't happen again. Let me ask you what he's talking about. Intelligence Joe Biden. The intelligence community is own intelligence folks have said it was Russia. That did the hack. He's the only person it seems to believe the Russia didn't do the hack so the crowd strike does that even make no not at all does that disturb that he doesn't believe our own intelligence will crowd strike first of all was the one who got the server and they never shared it with the FBI. They've never shared it with anybody. There's still a lot of information we're trying to find out about how the Russians interfered with our election win. Barack Obama was president and I'm glad president trump continues to look into that interference so it doesn't happen happen again. He's the one trying to root out by the way president. Trump is the one who's been standing up to Russia. They talked about Javelin missiles in that call. President trump sold javelin missiles cels to knock those tanks out that Russia was sending into the Ukraine Obama wouldn't sell those javelin missiles. You might WANNA ask President Obama Joe Biden why they wouldn't sell all the javelin so that Ukraine could stop Russia from coming in with those tanks but president trump did and continues to provide relief. We've given a lot of relief in fact president trump has probably given more help to Ukraine than any other president. Why are it seems as if you endorse the president sort of one man operation here by Rudy Giuliani to go around the government government and try to do his own investigation? I've not understood this if the president doesn't believe the US government's assessment of what the Russians did why doesn't he ask the FBI to investigate. Why is he asking Rudy Giuliani to go? Do you understand. Have you understand that well. You can ask Rudy Giuliani that in the chairman himself said he's not even sure if he would bring Rudy but keep in mind. The chairman said a lot of things made a lot of baseless accusations. Chairmanship is the one who for two years was running around saying he had more than circumstantial evidence that president trump colluded with Russia on the on the the Muller Investigation and that turned out not to be true and so instead of saying okay we were wrong. Let's move on they continue to go down this road of impeachment regardless of the facts and you they've said that there were high crimes and misdemeanors the actual author of the articles of impeachment just recently a few days ago said that if they don't impeach President President trump he might get reelected he will get reelected is what he said. The framers did not put the power of impeachment in the constitution so that you could stop somebody from getting elected elected who was duly elected twenty six. PM It's a high crime and Misdemeanor Standard and they should take that with the respect that it deserves. Let me take the word the word impeachment out of this given what Rudy Giuliani was doing or was not doing. We don't know given what the president may have met with. I would like you to do as a favor though but we don't know is this not worthy of congressional oversight is not worthy of an investigation. Do you want to know what it is. That Rudy Giuliani was doing sort of either on on his own or against the wishes of some people in the government is not worthy of investigation again skipped the impeachment part for a second well. They've been investigating investigating president trump for over two years and the entire way making baseless allegations speaker Pelosi the day before the transcript came out was saying that there were there was gonNA show show that the president broke the law and then they didn't have any quid pro quo all of the things that they were saying they're investigating everything and that instead of by the way we should be moving giving us MCA to get a better trade deal we should be passing bipartisan legislation to lower drug prices. They won't bring those deals to approve of impeachment approve of all this Guiliani Rudy Giuliani this one's in the current. That conversation happened chuck if you'd let me answer that conversation with presidents Alinsky happened right after the Muller report came out after two years of an investigation Rudy Giuliani was the president's personal attorney in in that case so again you can ask rudy what he was doing. I know that what president trump talked about was continuing to find out what happened with Russian interference in the two thousand sixteen election because he has been standing up to Russia and there's a strong record by the way of how president trump has stood up to Russia when Barack Obama wouldn't in job pheasant when they would not stand up to Russia. Do you think it was appropriate for the president to ask a foreign leader for help investigating his chief political rival for twenty twenty again. Go look at what he talked about in that conversation he was talking about the twenty sixteen interference that happened in our election. Look they've been media reports for years. Joe Biden himself bragged long before he was a candidate for president that he went there to to Ukraine and held held the billion dollars back. I'M GONNA leave in six hours unless they fired the prosecutor. My goodness chuck a lot of people have been asking for that to be investigated. You know the the truth behind that. Why are you putting it out there as if it's a Oh my gosh we have no idea what you're what he was talking about that? I mean we're taking something that actually happened that the entire Western alliance support it. This was a bipartisan effort as you know in Congress that supported the alliance support a billion dollars of course there was a lot of corruption in fact. That's why Zilenski got elected with a mandate to clean up corruption he he and president trump are talking about that in the conversation things that both of them are doing to clean up corruption and drain the swamp a look all of this stuff with this whistle blower report. There were a lot of things if you read the whistle blower report that are concerning in terms of allegations that were very partisan in fact the Justice Department or the Inspector General All determined that the whistleblower does have a political bias again. Let let him go forward to make accusations but turned out to to not be true you you every time I've asked you whether you have been if you're concerned about the actions the president took you've avoided answering the specific question and instead focus. Don't they try to infer. Don't you seem to be unconceivable defending. You seem to let me let me put it this way. You seem uncomfortable defending in my mouth okay. I won't let I'll let you finish. I think you've made a lot of statements and accusations. That aren't true chuck. President trump was in the two thousand sixteen collusion interference that Russia had when Barack Obama was president and we all know that happened under Barack Obama's watch y'all love try to tie it to trump and trump continues to look into it. I'm glad trump continues to look into the interference that Russia tried to do you endured have investigation investigation don't go through the FBI go to a foreign government. We this isn't a rise in doing this again. You can talk about Rudy separately. Only the there is no private investigation. There's been a public government investigation into the collusion that Russia had trying to interfere with our elections. We still haven't gotten to the bottom of it. There's still a lot of serious questions that need to be answered so it doesn't happen again. In president trump's continued to be aggressive not only that but pushing back against Russia in many other ways I mentioned the Javelin missiles it's president trump who gave the soul the Javelin missiles to Ukraine so that they can bus those Russian task. I didn't do that by the way after reading that detailed note knock don't call it a transcript transcript. You are comfortable that the president the mixing he appears to be mixing politics and government policy does he not do not wait Russian interference with our election. It might be politics and government interfere with our election. He's rushing in theory yes and in fact he's saying it's not seems to be doing a Russian propaganda thing with saying. It's the Ukraine with the server with the candlestick or something. I what it sounds like. You're reading the Democrat talking points. The people have been saying for years that the president was involved in all these other things and then none of it turned out to be true. The Mueller investigation was their ticket to impeachment shouldn't by the way chuck shouldn't they. I have voted to start an impeachment inquiry which is always happened. This is only three three times in the history of our country that Congress has moved articles of impeachment and they wouldn't even do that. It's like they're trying to shield their members from voting on this just while they continue to go down the drumbeat of appeasement because as the author of impeachment article said he's concerned that the president will get reelected. That's not why you impeach president. We've got an election next year to deal with that. Kaczynski will leave it there the number two in the house. Thanks for coming on and sharing your views much appreciate it to be with you coming up the panel panel and the next steps on the road to possible impeachment but first how small country under siege from Russia became a threat to Donald Trump's presence new for meet the press the Chuck Todd Cast. It's an insider's take on politics the twenty twenty election and more candid conversations some of my favorite reporters about things we usually discuss off-camera listen for free wherever you get your podcast welcome back to Ukraine story is move at Warp speed over the last week and it's understandable if people are a bit confused infused about what president trump is accused of doing why he called the president of Ukraine Winnie did an exactly what role Ukraine plays in all of this. I'm joined now by Michael mcfaul who was President Obama's ambassador Russia and he's the author of from Cold Water Hot. PC US ambassador in Putin's Russia. It's currently a professor at Stanford University a senior fellow at the Hoover Institution. He and I are going to walk you through a brief timeline to at least help you understand how we got to the point where at Michael mcfaul tried to do this the way you spend your days yes yeah up here in front of our slide in front of our slides in front of you. Check it is the phone call was actually the middle. It looks like of this of this controversy. Not The beginning in fact at the beginning goes back to early nineteen when as personal attorney for President Trump Rudy Giuliani starts looking for Ukrainian contacts to help him in Rudy Giuliani's words find out the origins origins of the Muller reported right look for the real hackers potentially looking for some dirt on Joe Biden he meets with a prosecutor general by the name of Lusashenko Sankoh a few times and then he's what is he looking for exactly again. He's trying to pursue a a conspiracy theory that Ukraine not Russia hack the DNC NC and that Joe Biden had a former prosecutor fire simply to help his son walk me through these well. Let's start with Joe Biden and the prosecutor the man before loot Sankoh. Mr Shokhin was the one that we were putting pressure on the administration and everybody else and he wasn't doing enough to investigate corruption including Biden son and so when Lukashenko comes on the scene Giuliani thinks he has a new partner somebody he can go after this story and he does aggressively the second part is a little more cockamamie. They want to build this theory that somehow accompanying called crowd strike. I found the emails publicize them some crew craning in connection which I don't understand and that was a way to help Hillary Clinton when the election but both of those stories Mr Giuliani is trying to find that's why he's engaged with Ukraine well he he he is able to get some of this stuff into the conservative. Mostly through Fox News you see constantly through the month margin on twitter crane Ukraine you know and Biden and what's it's this and all this stuff so creating this predicate that somehow this this matters and then something out of the ordinary happens to their plan April twenty first. I A surprise victor in the Ukrainian presidential election what why did this set them back because the previous prosecutor Mr Lutsenko was there guy he was working with Giuliani and suddenly Lukashenko's boss partial loses an election to Mr all this work done to curry favor with him and he thought was is the president's lead investigator suddenly out to win and he's like who's this Alinsky and what are we gonNA do now. How are we going to keep pushing this story with the brand new president well clearly the president? Maybe maybe needed leverage. So what do they do. They force out the ambassador who had been getting back and forth or Julie. Guiliani Guiliani cancels his own trip to meet with some people people close to the Zilenski then this the ultimate snub vice president pence was GONNA lead our delegation to Zilenski inauguration they yank him and it was meant to send a message July a bigger message. They announced the freezing of the eight nearly four hundred million dollars that was supposed to go to Ukraine. It isn't clear if the Ukrainian government knew it was definitely being frozen over all of this but of course this leads to the phone call on July twentieth which by the way happened the day after mother's testimony Tony to Congress. We think it's worthy of this but all of those actions leads us to I would like you to do us a favor though this was about what what well this is about president trump asking presidents Alinsky to help him find dirt on his political opponents in two thousand twenty. It's it's clear as day in the transcript and there is leverage their whether exactly what they knew I don't think is important. There's always leverage when you're talking to the president of the United States because all leaders of the world wants to have a good relationship with the president it's especially important when you're countries occupied by Putin and you need the leader of the free world to be on your side and when anybody says let me ask for a favor there's no favors and diplomacy. Everything is a quid pro quo everything is you do this. I'll help you well. This triggers obviously asli a whole bunch of concern the whistle blower I goes to his general counsel. CIA then he's worried it's going to get squashed files. The whistle blower complaint the House begins is an investigation. The administration does release the aid to Ukraine very quickly but at this point it seems to be too late and then we find out of course this is is all about Ukraine. What's the what is there any part of this that you think we don't yet know when it comes to the Ukrainian side that will add to the story? I think it's pretty clear cut myself. I don't think this is a case where we need to know lots more details. The president of the United States used his office not to advance American national interest dress but his private electoral gains. The only piece. I'm interested in Chuck. Is What's the Russia angle because just a few days after that call. He's on the phone with Latimer Putin eaten. It sounds like that call has also been you know somehow put on the Secret Service Yep I would love to know what he talked about Putin. We'll ever see any of the communications between the President and Putin that is going to be something. I have a feeling we're going to talk a lot about investment. Thanks for doing this sure thanks for having us when we come back the debate over impeachment analysts next welcome back panelists here Hugh Hewitt host on the Salem Radio Network you Michelle Singapore White House correspondent for PBS Newshour Presidential Historian Doors Kerns Goodwin whose book leadership and Turbulent Times comes out in paperback this week why why now mark leave of its chief national correspondent for The New York Times magazine well doors leadership in turbulent times we did some voter. We talked to a few voters in New Hampshire yesterday just to see how they're responding quickly. You take it with a grain of salt but the comments were interesting. Take a listen a lot of people like trump but they're too scared to say anything because we got some Wackos out there that Wanna a punch in the face of you say you like trump should go through with the process whether it messes with the outcome of the twenty twenty election. I think that's owned mm-hmm ball of wax divided anyway right so moving forward with potential impeachment procedures. I think is not going to to really do anything different. Give us your sort of that historical view. What what what what's happening? Well you know when I look back at the the three impeachments that I've lived through. I mean really only was there for Nixon and Clinton but I feel like I was there with Andrew Johnson. The critical thing is how is history going to regard what the house is doing right now. Will it be like Nixon that the consensus will be afterwards that they had to do this because he had to be held accountable and in the end Republicans Republicans came along and in the end Ford says our long national nightmare is over or will it be like Clinton regarded as a partisan endeavor that boosts Clinton in that case would boost trump trump and doesn't lead to a discussion and the real challenge. I think is the debate within the way they're going to conduct these hearings. They can't just throw around words like abuse so power a violation of oath they have to explain it has to be a giant civics lesson to the country to understand. Why are these things such that these people had to feel the need to try and impeach him now before the election and that's the story that has to be told you have to be just like these people are talking to you if they're successful in making it clear that they think he should be impeached? Somebody he has to be able to tell a story to the person sitting next to them in the bar that has a beginning a middle and and this is why it had to be done if they can't do that and then it simply goes away and as part of the Russian investigation Asian country is going to be more divided than ever before and there's a need for speed you hate to say that there's a need for both speedy thoroughness. Is that possible mark. It's going to be hard. I mean I I think what people do miss here and say everyone's divided anyway if people are in their corners there actually is a middle here I mean the middle is is narrow. It's narrower than it might have been in the seventies these during Watergate but there is a time and I think it would behoove certainly Democrats to do this as quickly as possible although also thoroughly as possible to actually win over maybe a ten percent in the middle of this who are actually amenable to some facts that could potentially change their mind on some things if it stays a fact-finding mission it likely will continue to get support early polling showing the public is open open to this investigation here. I want to pick up on Soviet professor currency which which is I was like ten she's like ten but the most important thing that was said this morning far is Adam shift came on any went full allison wonderland queen of hearts verdict first trial later I believe he destroyed his credibility this morning on this show as a fair arbiter her of this process the other thing about is there enough time is there a middle middle is tired of investing president trump. It has gone on for two years and the the most interesting part of Nancy Pelosi decision to go for a fast impeachment is the implicit but very real concession that the Muller report had no impeachable impeachable offence no obstruction no collusion it's gone they have erased it from the record so Adam Schefters bias and Nancy Pelosi has admitted that Muller exonerated trump. Let's talk about the simple story that Democrats have been searching for for a very long time. The Miller report was a four hundred and forty eight page report that people were confused about now now. They have a sentence. That's about twenty five words that says the president of the United States was trying to get a foreign country to interfere in the twenty twenty election. That's what Democrats have been looking for their entire entire time. The president trump was office and they finally have it here and I think that's why we see representative shift saying that the cover up might be important but the most important thing is what the President President set on the call. That's at the heart of this and I think that's why there's political risk there for both Democrats and Republicans all right. I'm going to get to some of the key players are going to become stars of this investigation they they were these are the folks named in the whistleblower complaint pence Bar pompeo Giuliani Ivanovich the ambassador Volker the special envoy who resigned Friday Sunland and the US Attorney Durham. I want to focus on Rudy Giuliani here amid at guys because it feels like if things get really bad for the president that Rudy is already looking like the escape goat the easiest scapegoat Republicans are ready to turn on him. I wish he would shut the heck up. Republicans sour on Giuliani says the political headline. I think it would be a good thing if he would take a vacation -cation. He's as wild as a march hare from John Kennedy. I'm not sure he's helping the president by being on TV. Every fifteen minutes said Lindsey Graham. I wish he would shut the heck upset. Another Republican lawmaker Ker Hugh Hewitt could rudy be the the guy that everybody concentrates there yeah I don't like I don't like this. Don't impeach the president really bad guy. He's not John Dean and the one thing we have to be careful of is well. He indeed is an object of controversy in score and often inside the beltway he cuts through everything outside of the beltway. So when you go to war and Ohio people we'll hear him and they respect them and they listened to him. I think they hear him because he is everywhere. I mean I think I think what he is emblematic of is he is first of all he is a proxy for the president the personal attorney or you know sometimes they'll he's a free range chicken. Senator Kennedy would say right but he also is someone who I mean the fact that he's out there so much is emblematic. The fact that a lot of Republicans are not comfortable being out there very much. The defense of President Trump has not come to any kind of coherent message and whatever whatever Rudy Giuliani says in a given day becomes the message and he becomes sort of a lightning rod here for when you talk to Rudy Giuliani the issue with that is that he's also talking about all the other people that he says we're involved. He says the State Department called me eakins invited he he basically says here Adam Schiff here more people to subpoena here subpoena and there's this idea that really there's a long list of people that Rudy Giuliani says is part of this even though the mother report might not have been impeachable offenses what you see in the Miller report is a cast of characters. They're trying to mitigate the president's actions or trying to help help them along in the complaint. What are you a group of people who are either trying to help him with which is Rudy Giuliani or trying to mitigate him which is Kirk poker doors? You're going to get the last word so you mentioned something very smart about the Nixon impeachment in the moment. It was very partisan. After it was over there was a consensus you hear Mitt Romney say deeply troubling here Ben Sasse saying let's not get quickly rally around here. Are Those the is that what you're watching for. I think it's really important for the country if this is going to go through that it becomes at least more bipartisan than it is at the beginning and when you do here Republican senators beginning to speak up that what we saw on the face is troubling if more facts come out maybe maybe more people will come to the forward that we don't know who other whitehead officials who talked to the whistle blower. Hopefully facts will drive this forward and you'll see some consensus. That's what we have to hope for four hundred country either consensus that he shouldn't be impeach or they should fulfilling Senate Republicans Aaron a better place to do that. Then House republic coming up how will the push for impeachment in fact the Democratic Democratic presidential race but first we come back part of my interview with Iran's Foreign Minister Trod Zarif Welcome back as a candidate Donald Trump was highly critical of the two thousand fifteen Iran nuclear deal which was joined by China France Germany Russia the UK and the European Union and as president he withdrew withdrew the United States from the accord in May of last year so with the US out of the deal Iran has recently taken steps to enhance its nuclear program in the US also blamed Iran for the attack on Saudi Arabia's main oil facility. Yesterday I sat down with Iran's Foreign Minister Javad Zarif and asked him about the possibility of ever reaching a new agreement with president trump. You imagine you can actually ever cut an agreement with President trump that he has made it very difficult because he has said this was an agreement by the previous administration notwithstanding the fact that this was a Security Council resolution but simply stating that this was an agreement by by the previous administration if I if I were to start negotiating with disag- ministration it took us last time it took us two years to negotiate this time it will take us even more because we know oh how the United States behaved and let us assume that president trump is reelected in two years time is only three years left of the United Night two of the second term of president trump. Do we vase two years of negotiations just to benefit while you sound like you've made the decision. You're not talking. You'RE GONNA wait till there's a new American president either twenty twenty or twenty ornament waiting for that rating for this administration to come to its senses or the future administration you would negotiate with this administration of course we will still with president trump not not a new need. They have to show that Dade respect their signature on this. They showed that they respect their signature. There's no point in negotiating with them. Because you set back precedent you renegotiate gate an already negotiated issue with this administration that is no end to that because tomorrow they can come back to you even the same administration and tell you you this was not enough let me tell you about. US MCA Mexico at about President trump to renegotiate Nafta they reach us MCA mm ca but then president trump says unless you agree to some of my demands on immigration I will not implement USMC so there is no end somebody somebody starts bullying and the more you give to that bully the more it wants well. You can see my entire interview with foreign ministers a wreath including that cyber war comment he made that we released yesterday where he admits that Iran in the US are in an active cyber war his refusal to deny Iranian role in that attack on Saudi the oil facilities all of it is on our website meet the press dot com when we come back and game the impeachment fife a good thing or a bad thing if your name is Joe Biden and then game Let's just cut through all of this. This is the the next four months. Everybody's got the same question politically which is what's job. I look like at the end of this process. Here's Biden dealing with this the first time publicly on Friday my family handle this but I'm worried about all the families and all the lives that are at stake in this election because of his his failure as a president in terms of the substance of what needs to be done theory that the presidential race for now basically freezes in place by Warren but ultimately we're trying to figure out how's this impact your I think there are political risks and their political benefits I've been talking to sources inside the Biden campaign pain and they told me that this week they saw their best fundraising numbers ever since the second week of his campaign. So what you saw was Elizabeth Warren starting to rise in Iowa some polls showing for the first time that she was was ahead now. They're starting to see more interest in their campaign. I'm also hearing that they think it's ridiculous to compare hunter by into Don Jr. which is something that people are starting to do because Republicans Republicans are making the case that essentially you'd say that the President Don Junior's son has been essentially profiting off of the fact that his father is as president and was in the same thing when his father was vice president that said the trump campaign says we also got five million dollars twenty four hours after Nancy Pelosi launched this formal impeachment inquiry so in some ways there's risks everywhere for both parts. Joe Biden doesn't want to be talking about one hundred Biden's business dealings in Ukraine and president trump. It doesn't want to be talking about the favor that he asked on that. Call this a almost if if this damages trump than the only good news Republicans get out of it is to damage Biden with yeah he is definitely damaging to your your question. Yes that is good news. Joe Biden has been devastated by this series in the Washington Post this morning on the landing page not only a columbine me which is a partisan column Tom But an in-depth report about hundred by Ukraine doing what you did with Mike mcfall chronology building on the New Yorker profile and I believe in one standard if there there was enough evidence to use a fiso warrant against Carter page for being an eight probable cause for being an agent or an accomplice before government hundred Biden should have been under the same surveillance from two thousand fourteen forward for the same reasons that he is deeply cooperating with people whose interests are not aligned with the United States abroad. I I I don't I I have no idea how that is even remotely relatable but I will read your call I would put it under the umbrella and he wrote a great column but I would put it under the umbrella of exhaustion. I think as you said earlier I think you said a lot of people are are exhausted from people from the Democrats Investigating Investigating Donald Trump. I would just say people are exhausted. A lot of people are exhausted with everything around Donald Trump. I think that's happened before Ukraine. I think it started started to show up in Donald Trump's numbers. I think this story has put a whole new big pile of exhaustion onto this big big sort of smoldering. Whatever it is Korea you can be pro trump's agenda trump fatigue doors? I think that's true. I think the problem for Joe Biden is that what he had going for him was that he was part of the Obama. Administration Gratien scandal free basically no drama every day and he could return to that normalcy in a certain sense now he's been made part of this drama the benefit fit for because I agree with you the risks and benefits not only the sympathy that people might feel but if this really ups his campaign if he realized I'm finding for my honor and my reputation I'm not just fighting because some electable and he talks to reporters morning gives more speeches and he does less campaign funding and he does what a person fighting for their life does the head of the Nixon Library Bray over here and I have my favorite story over there should Biden give checkers speech should go on sixty minutes with Hunter Biden by his side and take every question interesting. What do you think of a checkers speech could be quite effective could be quite effective? I think he has to deal with it more correctly and then he did the clip we saw this morning my apologies for those of you going checkers speech. which is this goes back to Richard Nixon Vice President in nineteen? I say that because sometimes we'd make these references that we don't do enough of but at that point Nixon accused of something and he uses television for the very first time to become a sympathetic I figure I think Joe Biden could completely benefit from this but I think they're really going to have to explain why Hunter Biden is different from Don Jr. different from from what what people think president trump was doing in his with his children. I will just say really quickly there was a poll out that PBS NEWSHOUR NPR did there's fifty eight percent of people said this would have have no factor in who they voted for twenty twenty all of this so that's. That's some if you're a Democrat though don't you worry about what they'll drop. When the campaign here we go October? That's maybe what they think they finally though as we say goodbye I got a note about Hamilton. Not The musical the man Alexander Hamilton wrote in federalist sixty five of the perils of the impeachment process warning that each side Mike Judge the case based on pre existing biases Hamilton wrote and in such cases there will always be the greatest danger that the decision will be regulated more by the Comparative Strength Parties than by the real demonstrations of innocence or guilt sound familiar luck America. That's all we have for today's history lesson. Thank you for watching. We'll be back next week with federal at sixty six because if it's Sunday meet the press in getting everyone breaking Lester College. Are you afraid of playing with fire. The most trusted TV news anchor in America here in Normandy hundreds gathered to honor the heroes. This is what it means to be American

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"Long that time time mocking lowered. Michael very show is on the air. Dr ron paul. Practice medicine for over. Fifty years zhou was also in and out of serving the united states congress. You ran for president on. He didn't win. He certainly did very well over the years. Both as a republican and as a libertarian. Party candidate dr ron. Paul was considered the best baseball player or softball player in the entirety of the united states. Congress year in and year out. And if you ever go back and watch on. Youtube video of ron paul playing baseball well into his sixties maybe his seventies you can tell the gas and athlete residents of his congressional district over the years. When i've mentioned ron paul have talked about seeing him riding his bike for very very long rides. Fifty hundred miles or more throughout the district the model of fitness in good health. Well ron paul's exploits on the baseball field in the annual washington. Dc congressional baseball game or well known that baseball game is the source of much smack talking among the members of congress throughout the course of the year and so it was on june fourteenth. Two thousand seventeen just a few months into donald trump's presidency that rand paul carrying on his father's tradition was out on the field practicing as were jeff flake and a number of others all republicans when in the seven a. m. eastern. Our bernie bro. Who parked his van for justice occasion walked up on some democrat congressman who were leaving the field and said those all republicans yes. They are proximate. Yup that they're all republicans that'll do whereupon he unloaded over fifty rounds shooting ski steve scalise multiple times wounding a capital police officer hitting steve scalise and three others by some sort of miracle. Scalise survived after more than twenty surgeries. And there he was bravely hobbling down the hall into the congress months later that story could have ended very differently but who among us would want to trade places with steve scalise had been shot as he was so terrible. Terrible day the individual. Who did was a self professed bernie bro bernie. Sanders had been preaching the ills of capitalism and american greed the republicans on behalf of his socialist agenda. And when that happened it was a true tragedy. Because you shouldn't have to be shot to serve this country. At least not. In congress we send young men away to be shot every day in iraq or afghanistan and there seemed to be far fewer tears. Shed for them. But here was steve. Scalise having been shot in a politically charged environment barely lived three others wounded and nobody called for the ouster of bernie sanders. Who still to this day went on to run for president again as if it never happened and still to this day is in the senate. No-one said his words were dangerous. Fast forward a couple of years rand. Paul is mowing his lawn in kentucky his backyard stacking the brush as he cuts his grass and his next door neighbor an avowed radical liberal runs up behind him sucker punches him breaking five of his ribs piercing his long leading to an advanced state of pneumonia and almost killing him. The injury was so bad that it contributed to his difficulty in recovering from covid earlier. This year. That man was praised by many liberals in politics and in media all over twitter whose words were responsible for that. Maxine waters is a long time. Influential democrat congressman several years ago. She had this to say. Listen carefully. ood go. Guess what we're gonna win this because while you try and jeff sessions and others you really don't know is almost i could write on the side of what's on of understanding that if we can protect the children we can protect. Anybody must make sure we have to show up an abuse. The everybody from that cabinet restaurant department store you walk. God barack obama's attorney general the fug eric holder said when they go. Hi we go low. Michelle obama echoed those words over the last several years. Ted cruz has been run out of restaurants along with his wife by individuals who get up in his face. Josh hawley. Three days ago family was pinned into his home without him there to protect them. I didn't see anyone wondering whose words led to that during the cavenaugh hearings chuck grassley. Senatorial office was overtaken by radicals who burst in his staff. Fled the heart office. Building for the senators was overtaken. The police had to retreat. They couldn't keep the order because remember brad. Kavanagh was a racist whose words caused that. And so here we are. The capitol building was breached. A police officer shot a veteran. Somehow that's donald trump's fault or the protesters. We don't even know who the protesters are. Because nobody cared to wait and figure it out because that might be an inconvenient truth once we learned who they were ono. It's donald trump's fault but make no mistake not donald trump after he's less than two weeks from leaving and everybody knows it you you got out of line. You forgot your place. So they'll use this highly charged emotional moment to put you right back where you're supposed to be great. Michael berry is crater. The michael berry show and well oil whiskey who the is morning. That's our Was up not tasked out before the sun really wanted to see. Who's on that way for man to be a mortgage do bathing on way somehow made it to where matt as a matter of fact bad to being tired one ever asked for anyone see the lack sound never been part of music. Cool sayings is top in nashville. New name these roundabout may near magazines. I don't use songs ad. I never had a lot of friends. And i'm already That he come back racing is hand. Cab call call forty five more turn from houston onto the island of galveston. And you start down broadway on both sides but particularly on your left which is the east side as some of the finest architecture you'll see in this entire country. There was more wealth created on that island at the time those were built from about eighteen fifty to nineteen zero five. There were individuals with the level of wealth that would rival anything in the country on this day in eighteen fifty nine the future site of one of those homes was built was purchased remote. Can you name any of those homes. Bishop's palace correct. Okay ashton villa correct on this day in eighteen v. Very good On this day in eighteen fifty. Nine businessman james moro brown purchased four. Lots at the corner of broadway and twenty fourth in galveston on that site. He would build ashton villa reputed to be the first brick house in galveston. He designed the three storey victorian talion eight residents himself and use slave labor and skilled european craftsmen to build to protect the house from the damp brown. Made the brick walls thirteen inches thick with an airspace between the exterior and the interior walls out. Think about the labor that brown died in eighteen ninety. His home withstood the devastation of the galveston hurricane of nineteen hundred. But it's basement was filled with sand and silt pronounce el meena either l. Monorail mine up. But i think it's probably l. A shrine bought the house in nineteen twenty seven. Use it for the next forty years as business offices in nineteen sixty eight. The shriners offered the property for sale. A campaign led by the galveston. Historical foundation raised hundred twenty five thousand dollars to purchase ashton villa and funding from both government and private sources helped restore and refurnish refurnish the historic home. Villa was open to the public in nineteen seventy four and is administered by the galveston historical foundation. I love to go through those houses. Also of note in texas history on this date in eighteen seventy the waco suspension bridge. A four hundred seventy five foot structure that crosses the brazos river in downtown waco was open to traffic at the time. It was the longest single span suspension bridge west of the mississippi river civil engineer. Thomas griffin teamed with john roebling and son of new york and the sons of york. Oh sorry john roebling and son of new york to build it at a cost estimated between one hundred thirty five thousand one hundred forty one thousand. Initially the waco bridge company wanted it. As a toll bridge the county purchased it in mid eighteen eighty nine and in turn sold it to the city for one dollar. The bridge was closed. Vehicular traffic in nineteen seventy-one on the national register of historic places and received a state historic marker in nineteen. Seventy six on wor. Did you really just right. You want me to pull up some history on the galveston mall. It was pretty to really handcuffing being the parking lot. There is that true. You lucky you didn't get a a Indecent exposure. I got a buddy who got an indecent exposure for doing exactly that at the corner of sixteenth in green and orange. What used to be the old budget chopper. There's a site there on the corner. Catty corner from from the weaker sham. Ford i guess we're shems on both sides but they that that corner which would be north west corner. There's there were a series of shopping malls. It kept going under budget chopper. Stayed there the longer. King saver might have been there for lowell in my buddy goes around the corner to p and a copper comes around the corner and sees him and pops him for indecent exposure. Is it really indecent exposure if you go behind some over at a p how about indecent. You didn't knock. I'm over here peeing. You know what i'm doing. You see somebody on the other side of a truck or car and all you see is their head and both shoulders. Because we're holding with both right. You gotta pull your pants down with one. Hold it with the other one. You know what. I'm doing for you to come over here. That's like the old runway. I didn't want to be drunk in public. I wanted to be drunk. Gonna bar threw me in public willie in friendswood your michael berry show good. Hi good morning is a challenge screener. I suppose that's ramon absolutely nothing to talk about today. And i appreciate all this historical Stuff you have this morning because that is a beautiful dot. Drive down broadway anyways Yesterday this is four years pushing stuff in our face and nothing done about it for years of trying to trying to unseat president trump now allowing him to do the job that he was elected to do. And let me tell you something yesterday. It didn't take much to light what went on yesterday. And the capitol. And i'm sorry. All that happened is inexcusable. But there's a breaking point in this. And i'm upset and this wasn't going on in the legislature yesterday. Nothing but a horse and pony show. Nothing was going to be done. Nothing these people are not going to be detoured in doing what they're gonna do. And the next four years nothing and you know what georgia. I don't know if you really got out there and voted but i did some messaging there and people are really giving up because they just say their vote is not gonna count and let's things are fixed and naturally nothing was fixed and i'm gonna stay. I'm going to stretch this out a little farther. Those demand machines. There's somebody getting paid for that lining their pockets and no one's saying it that it's slander. That's exactly the way i feel today. Richard europe you gotta stay on the phone not the speaker phone. We'll take calls today. Today's one of those days it's good to To get a sense of what people are feeling seven one three two one two five eight seven four seven one. Three two and two five eight seven four. My friend ed hindy said that he was at the protest yesterday at the capitol along with his beautiful wife. Naina hindi he said michael. We walked around the building through the building. He said he didn't say through the bill. We walked around the building. We were walking around the protest. It was very peaceful. I saw no violence nicest people you ever want to be around. And i think that that's what ninety nine percent of it was. And i think the one percent we're not trump supporters if the kids are listening from the backseat. You're raised him right. He'll michael barry. Show mama you can. He thinking made twenty thousand fans front stadium. Stanton i want you to know. I appreciate it. One day. i'll come home. We can sell the bray mama got a gold curtains. Call all the way from wrong. Sorry tell me little sister. I said hey. One day i'll component. We can send the bray yet. His he's now drives home freshman. Texas republican congressman probably. Don't know where the restrooms in the capital are yet defended the house chamber with the capitol. Police congressman troy. Nehls army veteran pat fallon air force. Tony gonzales navy. And ronnie jackson navy broke off pieces of furniture turning them into clubs so that they could defend themselves should moment arrive. Kevin mccarthy recognize their efforts on the house floor calling them the heroes among us. We saw the worst of america this afternoon yet. In the midst of violence and fear we also saw the best of america starts with our law enforcement to capitol police the national guard. Fbi the secret service who face the most difficult challenges but did their duty with confidence and strength. Many of them are injured right now. And it also extends to this chamber. We're both democrats and republicans showed courage calm and resolve. I'd like to recognize the members. Now who helped to hold the line mark. Wayne molin tony gonzales. Jason crowe pat fallon. And truly nells working with the capitol police ensured. The floor of this chamber was never breached. These are the heroes among us. Thank you for that. No it's odd. Not a single shot was fired getting into the building. I've watched the video footage. Which doesn't mean it's all of it. It's pretty extensive. People weren't wielding swords and knives or drawing guns to get in the building just walking in somewhat large numbers. If if i'm iran north korea or any country that seeks to do us harm. I've gotta think which by the way i know. This will not be a popular opinion. I have thought for a very long time that we're playing with fire the way we open up our capital our white house the supreme court and the light to random people who've not been checked. Is it that important to have people in the gallery. They're only there is a prop anyway. This was an opportunity for a lot of people to see how easy it would be to blend in with the crowd. The next one will be the women against brad kavanagh because they took over the the senate as well we. We seem to all forget that we don't tell that goes down the memory hole. I hard would it be to slip a few folks in there that intend to do real harm not very jose in the heights europe. Hey good morning michael. I've got a bit of a cynical question. So i i. I'm terrible at that. There was loss of life there yesterday. And i wasn't there have been there peaceful protesting. I wouldn't have broken the police line to get into the capital But they did. And i'm just wondering why this morning's headlines don't read unarmed white woman shot and killed by police. Isn't that what we should be talking about. Should we be talking about What a pillar in her community. She was beloved she was it was a gentle giant etc etc etc. You know what. I i saw someone write a saw. I think it was cnn. Who said for those who don't understand why she was shot. She was close to a that had been broken out. That would allow her to get into the senate chambres where the senate was so an unarmed woman had to be shot and killed to prevent her from entering into the very room where are esteemed senate. Betters were meeting. But jacob blake couldn't be shot after raping a woman carrying a knife as he attempted to kidnap her children. this is craziness says absolute craziness. What level of threat was she that she needed to fire. I will tell you as pro cop as i am. Every american should be asking for an investigation. And i'm not seeing one into washy was shot if the fact that there are a lot of people on the grounds at the capitol is reason enough to shoot her with a forty caliber. Caliber round center mass unarmed. That officer should be relieved of duty and charged. That's not the process. That's not a textbook example of how to deal with a situation like that. Did he reasonably fear for his life and that of others if so why is she. The only one shot was she. The scarecrow care how much you hate ted ted. Cruiser donald trump or the right or conservatives are taxpayers veterans. Or whatever else care how much you worship barack obama and comma harris and joe biden and chuck schumer. Nancy pelosi. you don't get to just shoot somebody to kill for no reason. And that's insufficient reason. That is insufficient reason. We watched our police officers. Have to take beatings from antifa. nba him. And you're gonna tell me that that what was going on inside. What they were protecting wasn't important by the way how many people remember that. The federal immigration building came under attack in portland oregon and had to be abandoned. They had to using armed guards. Escort the staff out of there under attack. Four people died. We don't know who they are. We don't know what happened last night. We know that one person died that by all accounts eyewitness accounts video footage should not have. She did nothing to cause her life to be taken. What is it the left. Care about this of talkradio. The michael berry show on on though. Oh remaining today at christmas for ethiopians. So malcolm gonna all of our ethiopian listeners. Wherever you may be seven one three two one. Two five eight seven four. Sorry wrong line gary. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead sir. Yeah good morning michael. Yeah i got a message. You were there yesterday. Okay yeah yeah was there uh-huh sure anyway so anyway we had the rallies. Everything's going along fine and dandy But they had a Some people going through you know the crowd saying that they wanted to breach the capital and Long story short as being you know putting on many tea party events and whatnot. I there's always a bunch of idiots. Sometimes that want to distract or whatever to do that but it was it. Seemed like it was more of a setup because at the capital there was very little Or not enough police. You know whatever and the barriers were quite low. It seems like they actually wanted to be briefed but Anyway i it was not. I think it was like orchestrated that it was definitely. You know they they. They went through the crowd telling everybody that wanted to breach the capital that they were going to breach the capital and they. It wasn't like you know spontaneous. This was like you know staged and of course they got a bunch of idiots that thought that they would just take a tour of the capital while you know they had a bunch you know had a few people breach it or had a couple of idiots follow and then you know. They had a tour of the capital. But you know it was it was like it was pre pre stage three setup and And never let a crisis go to waste so at three pm. We got an alert on our phones that they were going to be. You know locking down. Dc at six pm. And i said to myself. I said this is just perfect way. They have it set up because they're gonna come in the middle of the night and ram this thing through the trump supporters. look at and You know based on You know a few agitators that actually you know hurt the crowd you know to to to urge them to do something stupid and So i get back. I watched you know i feel bad that i didn't do a citizens arrest on the guy that wanted to Reach the capital i should. I don't know who he is but it was passed and it was all like so anybody at it is what it is but You know never let a crisis go to waste. They got what they didn't do anything they wanted. Birds and pictures. I mean that's exactly what they did that. Lets during the whole tea party and we fought very hard to Make sure that Any anybody that was going to do anything stupid would be not allowed as part of the tea party but you know Anyway they pulled their same old stunt and they got they got the you know the camera shot they wanted and now we're talking about that. We're not talking about it. Yeah they'd distracted it again. We're not talking about this after the election. I'm just saying it's it's there you know rigs played deal. It's their it's their mo they are helped along by the republican establishment that is always the very first inland. I mean they are rushing to cut in line. And say i condemn this. Just say no. I'm condemning it i. This is the most awful attack on america since nine. Eleven maybe worse. That's what the mitt romney's do they rush to get inland. I saw lindsey graham last night saying that you know he tried to be helpful to the president but no more no more. He's not went to president anymore. No no no no no no no no no. You bought the ticket. Take the ride. Lindsey graham at find it interesting that now we've got individuals who are resigning from the white house. That is their form of protest. Really with twelve days remaining. You're resigning you're not going to serve out your term my goodness what an incredible sacrifice. Cnn ran a story last night. Kate bennett at cnn. Posted scoop stephanie. Grisham resigns you-know-who stephanie. Grisham is because this is a big deal. It's a scoop she got it. You know who. Stephanie grisham is. I don't have to tell you stephanie. Grisham is this is a major resignation from the trump administration. Or maybe it's not. She's the chief of staff. Melania trump and this was supposed to be a big deal. She said she couldn't stay around. She was resigning with two weeks. Left interesting interesting and cnn. It was a big deal. That stephanie grisham said she's out now they didn't bother to tell you that anderson cooper did to entire segments on the fact that she was useless and as he said sad. They had trashed stephanie grisham. In the past. She's an awful human being but now that she's resigning from the white house. This is important to note. this is route. This is a high minded individual who is stepping now. So you'll see the rats fleeing the sinking ship over the coming days rather than remain and serve out the final hours of this term. Which most of the time between now and january twentieth. Mind you those last few days. They're not even in their offices. These last few days of the administration. Your boxing up your pictures. You're downloading your emails and your contacts. You're making sure your rolodex digital or physical is updated. You're sending out resumes all day. You're receiving friends and family to your office. Who didn't get a chance to see it so they can take years before you're denied access. It's not like you've been given you know the the starring role in a bronx tale and you turn it down when it could change your career low bronco. It is a few minutes left before the game's over your team's losing fifty two nothing and you. You know what. I'm not on this team anymore. I coulda had a great season and a great salary with you guys but against job there literally running out the clock to the band's running out on the field but the media loves this stuff. See trump's in a corner oh twenty-fifth amendment the cabinet talking about the twenty fifth amendment. Pence isn't talking to him pence unfollowing. They made a big news story. Pence unfollowing then followed him right back which means whoever was running the pins. Twitter account made a mistake in hit when he probably meant like. Oh we're going to get this for two weeks but it ain't about donald trump. He's gone soon enough. They'll start prosecuting him for crimes and harassing him and his family. No no no. This is to tell you you. Don't get a choice every time you stand up go. Hey we might like this canon. No last time. We let you do anything. You ruined everything. The swat will rule. This isn't a moment for the democrats. This is a moment for the republican establishment to retake command of the party. That's why they're extolling the virtues of mitt rahm and i get a sneaking suspicion that's their choice for twenty twenty four because he has good hair that time smocking load. The michael berry show is on the air. Give back to the calls. Yesterday i was making the point that we have had a lot of success in the last ten years at the ballot box. And some of you questioned me on that. So sandy peterson went to work. Let's compare now. I know some of you see some of you never want. Good news or successes. Just everything is bad all the time and the only thing worse than how bad it is is how bad it's going to be or was or will be or always is and don't give you anything other than that. You're not happy unless you're miserable. I got that but for those people who care about the facts. Let's compare the day. Barack obama took office to the day. Donald trump is leaving the white house which is less than two weeks away so january. Oh nine to january. Twenty twenty one k in the house of representatives. The day obama took office. There were two hundred fifty five democrats one hundred eighty republicans. Today there are two hundred twenty two democrats two hundred thirteen republicans that's a net thirty three swing to republicans pretty significant the day. Barack obama took office. There were fifty seven democrats two independents who caucus with the democrats which it means effectively. They had fifty nine Senators and forty one republicans today fifty democrats fifty republicans. A nine member swing now. It was more than that granted at the state level. January of onen. When obama takes over you had twenty eight democrat governors and twenty two republican governors today twenty three democrat governors twenty seven republican governors a net five swing in a very powerful position in the state houses. Remember forty nine of the states have by camel to chambered legislature one. St nebraska has a unicameral one. Have a house innocent. They just have one chamber so that means there are fifty houses forty nine cents and basically one that that serves as the to january of onen. There were twenty eight democrat sentence and one. Todd alaska twenty republican senators one unicameral twenty nine democrat statehouses. One tied montana. Twenty republican statehouses one unicameral. That became twenty nine republican state houses and nineteen democrats statehouse which means the republicans are in better shape on both the federal and state level. That almost anybody would expect a net gain of three states senates a net gain of in effect where you have the house. The senate and the governor a net gain of six. Those are pretty dramatic improvements now. A lot of that occurred during the obama administration especially in two thousand ten and two thousand twelve in reaction to what was done. Republicans actually did pretty well. Our did do very well among congressional seats. This time. The problem was the senate seats and we could spend some time in the future and we will on that robert. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead doing today. Great i wanna thank michael barone. I definitely think ramon they might not me. I do a story. You do what i do poxy flooring. I do poxy flu so yeah okay. Yes i remember and Yeah not man. Yeah yeah advertisement. And i've got some great customer. So i'm have to do something special for michael berry and ramon and in what i do want what i what i do wanna. As and this is gonna sound crazy. I know everybody's going dessert. I don't believe okay. I don't believe in the virus that went on. I okay. i don't believe in anti about whatever. But i had these people. They looked at me crazy. I say the data. Donald trump warned. Everybody turned against him. Are we gonna do gonna run him out of office and you had to sit back and say none of this because it's not just just wait and now you know antiques will burn down and everybody say do this do that and air you know. So everybody's an uproar because they stole him the state capital because they they stormed the d. c. Well you can't kick my dot. You can't shoot my cat. And i don't kill your dow you can't. You can't throw the first punch and then expect the white flag piece to be waved at us on the first punch america's fighting back and we need to hold all the politicians accountable because the average everyday man is the one who's losing. And if you telling me that. Don't you know. And i and then when i say this i say wholeheartedly i. You know people say well. Don't trump racist whatever. He wasn't racist when he was a democrat and give the democrat party his money. He saw an apocryphal in the system. I'm just everyday man. I wanna claim to come down and talks. I cleaned toilets for live. I do poxy fluid work. I got people that work hard. We don't we. We know doing this pandemic we lost And the people that got paid or the politicians politician say your problem and they definitely got the answer. Now me. I don't know about i'm not i. I'm not a politician. And i a lawyer. I don't know a lot. But i do know when i'm hurting and i know how to stop hurting and i know who's making hurt my way and i'll politicians have lied us over the last few years. They have screwed america over for their own agenda. They sold us out to other people for process. You know and i okay. If you're gonna do something don't get me wrong if you're gonna do something if you know if you're gonna if you're gonna tell me something at least heavy the true i understand your general. Tell me the truth about it and everybody else to blame. Donald trump well yeah. I forgot about antiques. I forgot about people burned down like they wanna lock everybody down for thanksgiving and christmas. Well that's gonna be the super spring. We just say about spray when people have burned sits down and ride and you can't have it both ways you can't have it both ways and america. We've decided now that everybody wants to be a facebook hero. They've got i've i see i don't have any most about any of it. I don i know for my most. I always talk about my pocket. My pocket comes. I if i had an employee i have obligation to my clients. And you can't just set the cut. You can just treat any account away. We don't fight back i agree. I'm not sure this started about three months ago. I wanna be clear if you call listen carefully if you call in they will. I be a person who will take your call and get your name. And that's what you're calling about. And the next person that picks up his meat then hammy layers. They think we have in southern fried. The michael barone people around I think it was probably early december. We interviewed a man named on baker. Who owned the candy house in. The woodland's received a number of emails from listeners. Who were friends of him and his family including this one. From noah czar. The owner of the candy house in the woodland's has passed away. You interviewed him recently. A veteran small business owner a great man quote on behalf of myself and entire baker family is with great sadness to say that donald baker senior eighty nine passed away on january. Second twenty twenty one. He was a loving husband. Father grandfather and respected businessman. Don baker was a cancer survivor and veteran serving in the navy from fifty one to fifty four. During the korean conflict he was the owner and operator of the candy house for over thirty years. He proudly served the community in the woodland's and touch the lives of over three generations of customers. He is survived by his wife of sixty six years. Barbara baker his children. Donald baker junior and heather whitman barbara and john. Max lewis donal baker michelle and buzzy campbell. You got to have a buzzy in your family grandchildren. Blaine and josh campbell. Gunnar louis they got a gun and a buzzy. That's a family right there. Kelly andrews and four great grandchildren. Who i guess didn't deserve to get mentioned in here. His legacy will live forever in our hearts. At this time no immediate services have been planned. It will be a celebration of life taking place at future point in time. So here's a man who according to the rituals of our culture customs of our time. His life would be remembered would come together speak about his greatness speak about the role he played and grieve together. Just as we come into this world and we have rituals and customs and rites of passage so to when we leave this world and most notably in between graduations from programs and ribbon cuttings and weddings. We don't seem to do the divorce celebrations although that's a new up and coming thing and yet we're not going to his life in in the way that normally would have been because because the flu cases or called. Cove it sean. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead hi michael. How could talk about dan crenshaw. I saw the fox news interview that he did yesterday. And well you know. I don thank him for his service. But what i found him saying to me sounded exactly like you know the red co loyalists back in the revolutionary war. How well you know. The these are our fellow citizens. And you know it's unpatriotic it's un-american well. I'm sure those there were tens of thousands of of british loyalist. Who said the exact same thing. How dare you you know. Go against our government. How dare you was neighbor against neighbor. That's what ended up being my thing. Is dan draw a line in the sand. What point is enough enough. You know whether it when they pull out of public spaces. Nope that one's already weighed on was when they allowed infanticide millions of babies being killed every year. No that lines wig on you know when is enough enough fair enough. The fbi says it twenty twenty recorded the most ever gun background checks in american history. Thirty nine million. Six hundred fifteen thousand three hundred fifteen background checks. December also broke the record high. A record high. That had been set a few months earlier in june last month. December twenty twenty. There were three million nine hundred thirty seven thousand sixty six checks in the national instant criminal background check system analysts say gun sale booms could be attributed to black lives matter riots. The twenty twenty presidential election and bat biden vowing gun control gun registration and the banning of the most popular gun in america. The ar fifteen in two thousand nineteen. The industry saw a record. Twenty eight million gun. Purchase background checks. The boom in sales led to shortages in ammunition and a spike in prices. Justin anderson the marketing director for high at guns of charlotte. North carolina tells the washington examiner. We're seeing continued growth across the industry and the nfc s numbers. Really tell that story. The most recent round of stimulus checks have further bolstered the industry with many people using that money to buy guns the headlines also continue to drive sales especially those that show. Joe biden becoming the next president. His radical firearms policy should continue to stoke fear and uncertainty among those on the fence about buying guns. Uncertainty and fear have always driven gun sales. And we're seeing many first time gun buyers exercising their second amendment rights last year sales. Were nearly double what we did in two thousand and nineteen and the bubble is not bursting anytime soon. Two thousand nineteen gun purchase background checks. Twenty eight million two thousand twenty thirty nine point six million. That's almost fifty percent more than an already record year. I went in to collectors firearms a couple times in december and at one point. It was so busy that they had to call. They haven't internet staff in the back a lot of guns that come through collectors firearms. They'll put them there. But if it's they have multiples that are already out on the showroom than in the back. Put it on the internet site in in rare guns and collectible guns and swords knives and they'll put those on the internet. Obviously that exposes it to be to an audience around the world. And mike clark said just doesn't happen that often but we had to go all hands on deck. They had to pull staff from the back offices. That the the staff that takes photos of the guns to put them on the internet the staff that does the write ups. This is what this gun. The staff that does the pricing the staff that does inventory control. All the people in the back offices that you don't see and if you haven't been to their new location you won't know what i'm talking about. But in the original location which was over at richmond and vondran the the footprint of the store was pretty big was probably that again back in the back. Couldn't see it and it was just 'cause they'd just been building on for thirty five years now. They took over the barnes and noble at westheimer in voss. And it's i think forty thousand square feet of showroom. If you go in there not sure what you want just to look around and trying to get a sense of what they have. It's like walking through the halls of congress. You just it's just gun after gun after gun after gun after gun well. The store was so busy that they had to pull people from the back offices that you can't see on the side of the walls everyone of them up there just to okay can look at that all right. Can you pull that one out. Okay can look at that one. If biden says the word gun control one time and it gets covered then we will exceed what already happened in twenty twenty in twenty twenty one because a lot of the people that are buying. These guns are not first time buyers. Although i will tell you i asked the owners of a collector's how many of these are first. Time buyers particularly how many of these are women and they said that's where we're seeing the biggest increase. We're seeing young women. Who are now saying. I need something to protect myself. I think that's antifa. I think that's black lives matter. I think that's that's the riots and the violence and and that is the mayors of the major cities around the country pulling the police officers back as as you have occupied zones and i think young women are saying to themselves. I can no longer rely on the police to protect me. Because the mayor's won't let them. I have to protect myself and that's only going to get worse. This is the michael berry show Reading a story about bill that has been proposed for the upcoming state legislative session in texas house. Bill two oh three in. It would require disclosure public disclosure of real estate sales in the state of texas. It would be required for you to release the details to the public of every real estate transaction and the organizations that would normally oppose this their executive directors are saying we have fought this every year. But we're worried that this year we might not be successful because of cove it because there will be a shortfall. You know these things are so predictable that if you're walking down the street and you see a guy that lives in the neighborhood he's hanging out with crackheads. Then the next day walking along and you see he's got a crack pipe in his hand and the next day you see him passed out up against a wall next to the crackheads and three weeks later you see a headline that he died or got arrested in the commission of a crime. You don't say to yourself. That is completely shocking. And i never saw that coming. I cannot believe that happened. You say it was only a matter of time. It is only a matter of time until the city of houston harris county and the state of texas start. Bemoaning the shortfall. They gotta raise taxes. I mean if we don't raise taxes we'd have to do the one thing that we could never do. Insert shrieking sound the one thing we could never do is cut back on public employees. Dirk can you imagine. Can you imagine if every time local county and state governments were required. Every time they locked down private business they also had the lockdown public employees and themselves and not receive a paycheck but there is essential are they what is essential about what the common dante is doing. What exactly is essential. Know the the mayors of west university hill scher village spring valley bunker hill hunters creek hedwig village. Piney point south side you know. Those are all unpaid volunteer positions. And all of them are run. Better the city of houston. Why should you get paid to be the county judge or the mayor. If you didn't get paid then you would have somebody who ran for the office. Who is privately successful professionally successful. Who doesn't need the job and just just wants to do the job. That would change everything that would that would really change everything people who need the money. This is the most money lindahl go has ever made in her life with the most money you've ever made in. Your life is serving in an elected position. You're not the right person for that job. Interview don't understand that people who typically make more in their professional life then a person who makes less are by and large across the the group going to be more capable of running a large organization. Especially if they've done it before where there's probably not a lot to say but here we go here we go. We're already going to see that. We're gonna see the talk of a cutback in the delivery of services outside the areas that matter most to them an increase in taxes. And we'll just have some programs that are just there that are bundled into well. This is for public health. This is in the same way that after after nine. Eleven when governments want and state governments wanted to do more when they wanted expanded raise taxes and expand their role. It was always to fight terrorism. We're going to get more money to the mayor's buddies that live over here in this neighborhood to have this big project how come Fight terrorism but that has that has nothing to do with anything. Yeah fight terrorism okay because everything is fight terrorism. Everything is fight terrorism. Everything is nine eleven by the way very interesting thing at play that nobody is talking about. Lena hidalgo is taking credit for the rollback based on the state threshold of occupancy in restaurants from seventy five percent to fifty percent and greg grab. It is remaining. Absolutely quiet now. Here's what's most interesting about this lena. Odongo did not order the rollback. She doesn't have the power to do that. That was the state but she wants the credit because among her supporters lockdowns are popular flipside. Greg grab it is responsible for the lockdown. But he doesn't want the credit because his base is already pissed off as at his last round of lockdowns so commandante hidalgo is taking credit for a governmental lockdown. That she had nothing to do with gregg grab. It is taking no credit when he's the one responsible for it because in each of their circles it is more popular for them to do that and the media is quietly playing alone. They're not pinning this on. Greg grab it because they know that. This is very unpopular among greg rabbits voters and he knows it. He's scared to death. He's scared to death because he acted more. Like new york governor or a california governor over the summer and the fall and didn't act like the governors of south dakota in florida who were very popular right now for refusing the lockdowns. Keep your eye on this greg. Grab it going to run for governor. Blow out his opposition. Have no republican primary opponent. Twenty twenty two and run for president in twenty twenty four his close friends and big money. People will openly tell you that. I know because they have. If you can't say something nice you can always say it on the michael berry show. I just don't even know why aren't uprisings all of the country. Maybe there will be people need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator. You know there needs to be unrest industries for as long as there's arrest in our lives enemies of the state show me where it says that protests was supposed to be polite and peaceful. Do something about your dad's immigration practices. You feckless go low. We you resist the temptation to run up and bring her next biggest threat in this country is white men most of them radicalized up to the right. I thought he should've punishment in the face this even if he lost he insulted later involved mexicans rapist earth. He said well. What do you think are did i think it should punish him in the face and then gotten out of the race you would have been a hero unlike to punch him in the face. We're in highschool school taken behind the gym and beat the hell point some people in the face limbs last time. An actor says president. They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in donald trump and that's a fact. Look as his character is stabbed to death. Where is john wilkes booth when you need. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up the white house from missouri state. Senator is under investigation by the secret service. After seeing she hopes president trump is assassinated. I will go and take trump out to die body cabinet restaurant. You lose at you. And sadly the domestic enemies to our voting system and are honoring our constitution our right at sixteen hundred pennsylvania avenue. They're not going to stop before election day november and they're not gonna stop after election day and that should be. Everyone should take note of that on both levels that this isn't they're not gonna let up a bit now. Saint louis saw its worst homicide rate in fifty years. Twenty twenty as they are in the process of defending police. Two hundred sixty two people killed in saint louis last year five less than their all time record of two sixty seven set back in nineteen ninety-three but since their city's population has declined since then their homicide rate was actually much higher. It's the highest homicide rate. They've had an over fifty years. The saint louis post dispatch reports that the city's homicide rate hit eighty seven killings per one hundred thousand residents last year the highest on record since nineteen seventy that figure exceeds the previous high of sixty nine set back in ninety three. The st louis post dispatch reports that quote. Those killed in the city include seventeen children younger than eighteen among them were kindergartner. David burchfield the third. Who was six. Who was shot in february while riding and his family's car and vic trail maura fourteen killed in august in front of his mother's home saint. Louis police chief john hayden told the post dispatch this year. That officer morale was being drained by the unprecedented workload in july alone. The city saw fifty. Three homicide is the most in a single month. Hayden could remember in july hayden. Call that stretch more demanding than i've seen as a saint louis police officer in thirty three and third years. I didn't look before we started this segment. But i believe houston had over four hundred homicides in twenty twenty over four hundred. The good news is semester. Turner is focused on the fact that he says that what happened at the capitol. Yesterday shows a double standard in america. Thanks a lot silvester. I guess your second term will be spent campaigning against ted cruz and other members of congress. Because you got to find a job when your term is up and not just for you that interns expecting one hundred thousand dollars a year. I mean mama gotta get paid. Nbc news says trans women retain athletic edge after a year of hormone therapy study finds. The study's lead author. Dr timothy roberts says they began investigating the athletic performance of transgender men and women while in the air force working under co author and physician. Lieutenant colonel joshua smalley at a clinic coordinating care for airmen beginning or continuing their gender transition. Yes our air. Force is staffed by men who were converting into women. Active duty service members are required to take physical readiness. Test every six to twelve months. Roberts smalley and another co author dr. Dale errant realize they had access to robust data on servicemembers before during and after they started hormone replacement treatment the three physicians conducted a retrospective review of medical records and fitness tests for twenty nine transgender men and forty-six transgender women from two thousand thirteen to two thousand eighteen. The air force has fitness assessment includes the number of push-ups and sit-ups performed in a minute and the time required to run fifteen miles. They also had records on when the subjects started testosterone or estrogen the type of hormone used and the number of days from when treatment began to win their hormone levels reached the normal adult range for assist gender person. That means somebody. That's not a man wanting to become a woman or a woman wanting to become a man for the first two years after starting hormones. A trans woman in their review. Were able to do ten percent more pushups and six percent more sit ups than their gender female counterparts. Two years on trans women were still twelve percent faster on the mile and a half run their sys- gender peers unsurprisingly testosterone affected the fitness scores of the transgender men. They reviewed prior to starting hormones. They performed fewer pushups and had slower running times than these six gender men in the control group a year into treatment though those differences disappeared with sit-ups the trans men were comparable to this gender men before treatment and actually exceeded them after a year until stroh meth. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead. Hey michael i wanted to tell you we love you. You and ramon I was thinking this morning about my eighteen year. Old son he He's like an old man and the kid body and He told me he looks around at all. This stuff going on. And he says it's his expression is willed ignorance on their part He also told me like. I don't know three or four years ago that he predicted he feels like there's going to be a civil war and it's like he's hoping he's wrong. He's not wanting to see that but Just it's just we can't escape it. I feel like i'm driving down the freeway. And there's a car hidden head on me and there's and i can't i can't do anything to stop it steve. Cortes is a strategist for the donald trump campaign. He will be our guest coming up talking about the president's strategy over the next two weeks stay tuned. It's that time nine mocking load. Michael berry show is on the air. I just don't even know why they aren't uprising. The country maybe there will be people need to start taking to the streets. This is a dictator. There needs to be unrest in the streets. For as long as there's unrest our lives enemies of the stig show me where it says. The protests are supposed to be polite and peaceful. do something about your dad's immigration practices. You feckless go low. We can't resist the temptation to run up and bring her next. Biggest threat in this country is white men. Most of them radicalized brought to the right in the face even if he lost he insulted. You're wide you later and called mexicans rape immerse. He said well. What do you think so. I think you should punch him in the face and then gotten out of the race you would have been a hero to punch him in the face. We're in highschool. Take you become jim and beat the hell out of point. Some people in the face members last time an actor assassinated president. They're still going to have to go out and put a bullet in donald trump and that's a fact. Look as his character doubt to death. Where is john wilkes booth when you need zero there. I have thought an awful lot about blowing up to white house missouri. State senator is under investigation by the secret service. After seeing she hopes president trump is assassinated. I will go and take trump out. Two-night cabinet station risks and sadly the domestic enemies to our voting system and are honoring our constitution our right at sixteen hundred pennsylvania avenue. They're not gonna stop before election day november and they're not gonna stop after election day and that should be. Everyone should take note of that on both levels that this isn't they're not gonna let up and they nothing steve. Cortez is senior adviser for strategy to the trump campaign. He's been our guest before he's our guest again. Steve what is top of mind for you right now. What what are you thinking about right now. Hey great to be back with you. I appreciate it you know what's top of mind is related to the montage that you were playing. Which is the hypocrisy which were seen all over the place right now Regarding what happened at the the capital yesterday and look. Here's the here's the reality. I never condone the use of force or intimidation for political power. Never i think it's wrong absolutely wrong when the l. Bid when antifa did it when left wing groups did all over this country burning cities practically to the ground attacking police it's reprehensible it's also reprehensible with somebody with a maga- hat on fights police in washington dc yesterday And i was really really dismayed to say the least To see some of that going on. I think was very tiny group of people of a massive crowd. That was there but we can't ignore the reality. that had happened However i am not a hypocrite mine. I'm i'm willing to condemn it on all sides when you look at corporate media. Unfortunately they are willing to look the other way or even condone and encourage violence from the left. You played some of the clips that are very evident. They're the one that i'll never forget as well. It doesn't it doesn't work as well for radio because it's such a strong visual is Allie vel she from msnbc when he was in in front of a police precinct which of course become an inferno torched by arsonists and he said fires have been set And he was one of the many times that corporate media said mostly peaceful protests when the literal picture was the exact opposite of that And you know that. Reveal the hypocrisy corby. But i don't want to only just blame media. I want to also say about team biden Because of course they have been very quick to try to cast a violent criticism upon all of the maga- movement because of the events of yesterday. And here's the reality when there was real systemic violence in minneapolis during those terrible minneapolis. Riots what happened afterwards comma harris. Who will now be device. The united states kamala harris solicit funds for the minnesota freedom fund and number of biden campaign. Staffers brag about donating to the minnesota freedom. Front what is that well. It's a group like a lot of these bail funds around the country backed by people like soros That gets a lot of really dangerous criminals. Violent criminals out of prison including in that case to be specific jalil stallings. Who's right now. Awaiting trial on attempted murder. Police officer tried to shoot and kill cops during the riots in minnesota he was freed. He is a freeman right now. Walking the streets in the twin cities because of the fund that was encouraging solicit By kamla harris and that was donated by joe biden. Staffers so i am a no. I'm in no mood. Michael to hear lectures from people from team biden or from corporate media About how About how things had to be done peacefully two minutes left in the same. Let's take the first part of a two part question. Let's view the next two weeks as a short-term a day or two and long-term full two weeks what's the short term strategy for the president. What does he have to accomplish. I think the big thing is special counsels. And i have told him that privately and obviously saying to here publicly as well i think in two special counsels need to be appointed one to look into the chinese biden cartel pay to play scandal with the chinese communist party. I don't really like to call the hunter. i know. a lot of people. Just say that for shorthand. But it's really not about hunter. It's about the call. Big guy joe biden. We could very well have a compromise. Commander in sitting at the resolute desk in the oval office compromised by the most dangerous enemy of the united states. The chinese communist party. So i think a special counsel to be appointed there. I also think a separate one needs to be appointed for the election fraud and irregularities and constitutional violation so i am encouraging them to do that and he's next two weeks bigger picture. Michael i mean we need to recruit better candidate. That's one place where we have fallen short. As a movement as america first movement for example. Kelly leffler solas short yesterday. She betrayed the country. She betrayed georgia. She promised the people georgia that she would object to Presidential vote in her state she got to the senate and she completely betrayed them and changed her mind for no apparent reason. Nothing about the vote had changed. So we need to recruit candidates who meet three criteria. I think courage intellect and skills. Kelly left failed on all three of those marks but when people have the courage to take unpopular stands people of high intellectual capacity. We need people who have real skills media skills National security and whatever. It is whatever their skill set is. But we need to recruit those america first candidates. We need to train them and finance them and get them ready. We can take the house back in two thousand twenty two. We need to take hard. I know these. He's been tough days for those of us movement but the movement of young these are early day. The president said that in his statement overnight and he's correct Steve cortez is our guest will continue our conversation with him and we'll start with the question. Where should president trump spent his time and energy upon leaving the white house. That will be question number one and then we will move to what went wrong in the november elections and sense including. Why did we leave georgia. Steve cortez of the trump campaign coming up woohoo berry show cortes strategist with the trump campaign and our guest at his first visit. Hopefully not his last steve. What advice do you have for the president as he transitions out of the white house to being a former president title you keep for life And in his post-presidency right first. Let me say that. I do believe will be a second trump term and i hope that begins in twenty twenty five but obviously that's up to him and up to the voters but what. I think he should do immediately. I mentioned the last segment candidate. Recruitment one of the things that we've had a problem with and this is just natural though we look let's face it. The america first movement staged a takeover effectively of the republican party. So there's a lot of legacy issues to deal with it. A lot of legacy personnel dick. When it comes to elected officeholders. Many people who simply don't agree with our view. So it takes time you can. You can pretty quickly elect the president as we did. This man came from private life to being present. The united states In almost a blink of an eye however it's much more methodical long-term process to make sure that there are america. First america nationalists officeholders. All over the place to be through throughout government at the state levels and legislative level as well. So i think that's what we need to work on is recruiting candidates. And then helping them to win. And that's where. I think the president can be instrumental. He showed that he had unbelievable coat-tails and by the way that's part of why i believe it is one of the reasons and this is a more intuitive weather than statistical one. I think there's components typical reasons to believe he wanted to legal vulgar one of the intuitive reason is he had such enormous coat tails. And it's election and it just doesn't make logical sense. I believe he had coattails yet no coat himself. But regardless He had enormous coat-tails down ballot. And what he did in the house. Representatives for example was really magnificent. According to cook political report. Twenty seven tossup races. The gop literally went twenty seven for twenty seven. We want them places. We're not used to win like california. I think we've put five districts in california so my point there is a lot of momentum lot of fresh faces a lot of faces that aren't necessarily what people think of when they think of republicans meeting a lot of women of minorities and i think there's a lot of upside for twenty twenty two. We can capture the house And i believe that. Donald trump as private citizen former president. Donald trump can be absolutely instrumental. He is still by far the most popular figure in the party in the entire united states and to me the way he can be most effective in these coming years in twenty twenty one into twenty two is by helping to recruit these candidates finance them and the campaigning actively on their behalf and helping them win and that will position him by the way. If we do take over the house if he doesn't choose to run again in twenty twenty four That will position in incredibly effective. I mean imagine if he look. He had a republican house when he first came into office. But it was. It was hardly one that was allied with him. Not in america first house imagine if he has an actual true allies In in the speaker of the house republicans because house potentially speaker mccarthy You and he becomes president again or another american candidate like trump becomes president. I think that to me would be best most effective use of his popularity and his skills to put it into perspective. He's almost full. Four years younger than joe biden so he would take office. January twentieth of twenty twenty-five were that to happen. He'd have to run and he'd have to win. He'd be about the same exact age. That biden is today. And i'd argue that. He's in far far better. Health a sorority on a cognitive level. To be sure where do you think his family is in all of this. They've taken a lotta lumps. Ivanka and his bride. The boys seemed to relish it. But but they've been through a lot they really have and you know and so much of it just completely unfair right They really have been one of his best assets for sure but they've taken an enormous amount of flak other than the president himself more than anybody Out there and look. I think some of them certainly have futures maybe several of them You know there's a lot of talk about lara trump and north carolina Certainly don junior has really taken Know really relished. It seems his political role. I think he's certainly other future. There's a lot of talk that the kushner's are going to move to florida. I think vodka You might very well have a future statewide in florida. You know we'll see i. I don't want to speak for any of them. I know all of them. But i don't know that land and i don't know what the future holds for them but They are clear. Complete patriots They've taken a lot grief that they don't really deserve and also just your early point about the present age. I think this is so critical. And i'd say this. And i think the listeners out they would probably agree with me you know. I know. eighty year olds who are completely mentally with ninety year old for that matter completely with it and then i think all of us probably know some sixty five seventy year old who've already lost staff and could no longer handle all your difficult pass mentally And to that point the president is chronological age. Sure it'd be. He'd be upper seventies if he were to get elected again But he has the mind and drive of thirty year old right now as a seventy four year old and by the way the inverse i would say for joe biden who seems to unfortunately and this is not his fault but he seems to unfortunately be far older than his chronological age. So as long as the president remains healthy and spry over these next four years. I think it will be his opportunity if he wants it for. Years is eons in the political world. We'll see what happens until then i do know this. So he is going to for certain in the coming months in the next couple of years. He's going to remain the leader. The america first movement. And again i believe can be super effective in these coming years and knowing the president as i do and i think anybody who doesn't don't just would agree. This isn't a guy who's only going to go and lay around the pull marijuana logo. He's gonna remain really really relevant to this country He's a patriot. He's a doer. He has incredible drive and veal And i think great things are ahead for donald trump. Do you think he feels betrayed by mike pence you do. Yeah just to be very blunt I think he. I think he feels betrayed by a whole lot of people You know when we look at the united states senate the fact that only six senators voted to object to the arizona votes. And then we couldn't get one senator to even stand up and object to the votes of michigan for example and i think a couple of other states i didn't watch it went all night long I think he feels betrayed by some of these establishment. Republicans and. That's a shame but again to we can't just bring her hands about it. We've got to get to work okay. Well how do we fix. The situation going forward. This president has really stood alone quite a lottery or not alone than practically alone And i give him nor mus credit for that he's just within a man of incredible character and fortitude what he stood against in terms of corporate media in terms of business. Big tack i. By the way i just saw this morning that That facebook now is saying that his privileges has access to facebook is just suspended indefinitely That's an outrage. And by the way as laudatory as i am of the president. I will say this One of the few big mistakes. I think he made in his first term. I hope if he does become president again he rectifies it is that he never went out to big tech. I don't think he realized. Just what a threat. They are to our country constitution and to him And unfortunately that was that was a failing that was miss Now you can't do everything in one term But that That i hope will be an agenda item going forward for movement and perhaps for him personally as well because they tax too often acting like big brother. I think that is a fair assessment. And i agree. I wish more had been done there so many fronts on which the fight needs to be carried to the left. Where do you if he were to say. Even if there was a steel there could have been improvements made on the campaign And the results in november. I got about forty five seconds. But your thoughts on what you do differently. Sure no i do believe we won the legal vote I think we actually want it. Running away and places that doesn't mean but that you know of course doesn't preclude that we could do better. Of course them. Better in certain places. And i say that somebody who worked my tail off in the campaign. I think one thing we could have done better is messaging earlier on the economy In other words we. I think to some degree we allowed the corporate media to absolutely fixate on the virus story and look. It's a massive story. Obviously you know other than the election. It is the story of the year. Twenty twenty But we let them obsessed to it. I think To an unhealthy degree And did not talk enough about the hymie and the main reason. I say that michael when i look at the data in terms of exit polling people who put the economy as their number one issue voted overwhelmingly for the press. I eighty ninety percents so You know we certainly have it on it but i. I believe we were a little late. I think i really focused on that august. Absolutely right. i'm up against cortez. Come back and see us. Thank you buddy your calls coming up seven one three two one two five eight seven four and put it on the michael berry show By a times. I wanna die. Bruecke say that time will. He's in mice and men. And i forget just between so outed your between your do much to four thousand nine hundred sixty six former negro leagues baseball player. Charley pride security his first recording contract with rca. Victor records under the supervision of jack clement wrote this song release first two singles. Snakes crawl at night. What am before i met. Rca didn't include a promotional photograph of his face for fear. That radio deejays wouldn't play him because he was black on country music. The first two songs didn't make it. But the third one did just between you and me produced by jack. Clement chet atkins and bob burleson. That's a lot of firepower figured out. This guy was hitmaker in on this day. Fifty four years ago nineteen sixty seven. Charley pride becomes the first african american. That means black solo singer to perform at the grand. Ole opry in nashville. He was invited to perform after the success of his third song. And i hit just between you and me which would make it all the way up to number nine on the country music chart barbara. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead judy. You're on the michael berry. Show go ahead. Well the house. I i i want to get into it. I wanna thank you for something that you said today. I knew i would get ghost of hope. A ray of sunshine by listening tonight you and you gave it to your listeners when you talked about the two thousand twelve democrat losses after you know people thought obama administration was going and so that is just very attention for all of the that. We're looking forward to twenty two hundred to keep that thought all day. I have to keep them out all day but Yesterday i didn't have the heart to listen to all the news and i don't know if you are black. Lives matter made a minute show today did they. I'm sorry i couldn't hear you. You don't know black lives matter made a showing yesterday. Oh shoot sorry. Accidentally pushed her own button. Lost a line Well it is that easy. I just hope to call would be answered. I i lost my train of thought. Because i had two competing trains of thought going at the same time to. That's on me that that one is on me. Let's see christina. Your michael berry show. Michael i just want to say i am fired up and excited because all those people in washington that believe just like me and it's a huge group of people so i have faith but i also listen to cortes who you just spoke with who i also love And he made it sound. Like i should be part of the republican party which i had zero interest in continuing so help me understand how people are supposed to move forward because i can tell you i saw ted cruz. Hunting cornyn bacon brisket and dan crenshaw until yesterday and then. He told us how much he didn't like anybody that was in washington so not real happy. Yeah you know. I wanna to be clear on this because i keep getting this question. I'm not telling anybody to go join the republican party or do anything else. Somehow we're getting confused on that. Let's let's have no confusion. Do whatever you want honestly. I do whatever you want if you were to ask me. Do i think the republican party at the local level has done a good job in the last twenty years. No awful that's part of. Why we've we've been swept out of office. In two thousand. In in the two thousand eight elections republicans dominated harris county up two thousand eight that started in the early to mid nineties and it continued for over a decade. that's how we got tort reform through that that if you go back and look at the county and the state republicans were dominant starting in two thousand eight. The democrats organized very effectively. They use the early stages of this relatively new at least to the political process social media platform and they used it very effectively obama's folks understand understood how to do that a lot better than republicans did much better And too great to great success. They didn't win the state wide races but they did swing harris county democrat. They started winning sheriff's races and district attorney's races and eventually county judge races and they've had a sustained set of success. The harris county republican party has been a bumbling fumbling a just embarrassment disaster and to such an extent that a lot of the big money guys have now pulled back and are not associated with it any longer and so we're not doing the things necessary to get voters to the polls which is targeted demographic. Work the nuts and bolts of this stuff. I don't want to do and you don't wanna do the hard work. The heavy lifting the xs and os. The state republican party has its own failings. The state elected officials have their own failings the republican national committee just beyond hope. So am i. Encouraging you to tell everyone. I'm a republican and i'll do whatever they want. No if your point is. I need to tell you how independent i am. Knock yourself out. Where did i come out as. I want to win elections okay. I'm unashamed of that. I want to win elections. I will support the best candidate. I believe at the time of the voting to advance our cause and many times. They will disappoint me. You could always vote libertarian. If it makes you feel better. My mary You left me and you wanna said you'd be back in just that day you broke on your promise and you left me alone. I don't know why you did did. But i do know that you go. I'm walking the floor over us. I can sleep away. That is too. I'm hoping and i'm praying. Asthma heartbreaks to walking the floor. Over you on this day. Bernice makes his first appearance at the grand ole opry. U-haul says their data showed that people coming to texas in one way rental with their trucks increased by nine percent during the past year. Texas was the second most moved to st behind tennessee. Texas was the leading gross state from two thousand sixteen to two thousand eighteen. According to u haul growth states are calculated by the net gain of one way you haul trucks entering state versus leaving that state during a calendar year. Sean mcmullen u-haul company of south austin president says texas has seen an influx of movers over twenty twenty people coming to texas in one way you hall in one way you host. Texas is a beast in terms of population growth. Tons of new residents are moving here from the west coast. I taught customers every day from california oregon and washington. They want a change in scenery but they want to maintain their lifestyles covid. Nineteen has been a struggle. But it doesn't seem to slow people for moving to texas. According to u-haul the leading growth cities include. Tyler conroe longview. Richardson kingwood college station. Round rock pflueger ville corridor and arlington other notable net gain cities and communities san. Marcus far new braunfels the spring woodland's corridor cyprus. Katie abilene and mckinney sharon. You're on the michael berry. Show hi michael. I just you you brought up. Yesterday i wanted to circle back around to you. Brought up alibaba and how the dot com put away the guy the entrepreneur who did alabama that was dot ma and he just disappeared. The chinese government took him out because according to that book the believe asia There's there's one thing you cannot do in china it's criticized the government these you can make all the money you want but you cannot criticize the government. And that's why they put him away. Well that's exactly jack. Dorsey just did president trump with twitter. He just put him away. It's a. it's a tactic of the tchaikovsky. Chinese communist government. You don't solve problems by censoring people's opinions who you don't like and facebook and instagram have now banned whether temporarily or permanently president trump twitter with a suspension. These platforms have become the number one means of communication for mass politics culture. They have assumed a power far. Beyond the media's power and the power to d platform to censor to remove his unchecked at least with the fcc you can lodge complaints against media organizations that are using the public. Airwaves been the idea behind it. But with these big tax forms they have replaced the television. They have replaced the phone. They have sucked people in such that. The form of communication for the majority of our political conversations separate and aside from the conversation you know in the carpool or at the office is on the social media platform. And for many of you. I'm sure you would say. I consume most of my news from social media platforms. I share my opinion with the most number of people on social media platforms. How many people are you going to call up and say. Here's my opinion on what happened yesterday. Let me lay it out and spend ten minutes doing so which is what it would take you to draft that or maybe take twenty minutes to draft at ten minutes to say and hang up and then onto the next. Even a small social media account is going to have twenty five to fifty people who are gonna see posted. They may not respond everything but they they see it. So this is how this is the virality of ideas this is how ideas are spread perspectives or spread and sure. A lot of social media is absolute bunk. It's nonsense It is not important to the greater good whether that be how proud we are of our children and grandchildren or what we had for dinner. Or it's our anniversary. Yes those things are not. I suppose critically important to the functioning of the republic but they are important to our lives and to be honest. We've done that for a long time. We don't need any longer to pull out our wallet and go. Hey here's picture my son look at this picture. My baby look at this. Here's a picture of my new house. Look at this. We don't need to do that any longer. Because we've already done it on the social media site but social media is not where we started doing that it may be where we started posting pictures of what we just eight. Yeah that might be true. And i hear a lot of people talk about how vapid that is now. Horrible it is is it really. Where should we spend our time. What should we be doing our should. We always be engaged in a noble effort for the preservation of the republic. Because i think a lot of people just kind of want to show you how they're frito pie or you know how they're Particular casserole turned out our before and after of their weight loss or whatever else the ability to turn off the primary means of communication for a majority of americans at will based on whether you like or dislike is an incredible influence. The likes of which. I don't think americans are going to stand for for long. It is standard. Oil is bell telephone. It is microsoft and one way or another. It might not be this week or this month. There is going to be a backlash to that. And the backlash might be that people move to parlor or they moved beyond the next one and if you say well that's not possible. Ramon met his now wife on my space. The spot the spot. Well re-met her. They went to high school together but they didn't know each other. Who would have thought that my space could overplay their hand. Who thought that amazon could in many ways surpass walmart. Maybe just maybe people start using their dollars more wisely and put big tech out of business not overnight but it's not unprecedented.

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What to Do With Weak Republicans

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What to Do With Weak Republicans

"Hey everybody we got georgia on our mind. it is. The center of the political university just returned from a couple rallies. They're we dive into the recent news and updates and so much more e mail us your questions. Freedom at charlie kirk dot com. Do you want to support our program. It's charlie kirk dot com slash support. And if you wanna get involve attorney point. Usa it's usa dot com battleground. Georgia buckle up here. We go charlie. What you've done is incredible here. Maybe charlie kirk is on the college campus. We are lucky to have charlie. Charlie coach running the white house folks. I wanna thank joe. He's an incredible guy his spirit his love of this country's done an amazing job building one of the most powerful youth organisations ever created turning point. Usa he will not embrace the ideas that have destroyed countries destroyed lives and we are going to fight for freedom campuses across the country. That's why we are here. Hello everybody charlie. Kirk your host of the charlie kirk. Show checkout charlie kirk dot com as always for all your latest news and information house. Republicans are in a historically favourable position even as a minority if the current trends continue with votes still being counted and finalized in a few select races. Nancy pelosi will have one of the slimmest majorities in nearly one hundred years in the house of representatives of only about nine seats almost every single expert out. There predicted the exact opposite. They predicted that. Nancy pelosi would expand her majority from twenty eight to thirty seats to nearly forty four seats. Some in the prediction business. Such as larry sabato and the cook political report and nate silver. They went as bold to say that they thought nancy pelosi would get to two hundred forty five to two hundred and forty seats two hundred and forty eight seats and i think it's worth asking the question. Why is it as things stand right now. Nancy pelosi has a an eleven seat majority where the final two races. That are being decided. Mary miller mix for example. Who looks like she's gonna win by six votes and claudia tenney and upstate new york. Who's currently winning by twelve votes. Which will bring nancy. pelosi's majority to just nine votes. two hundred and eighteen votes are needed for the majority. In fact the activists media was so confident that democrats. We're going to retain control the house. Representatives they called the race. They called the house direction around eight thirty pm eastern before almost anything else they said. Cnn projects cable news projects. That democrats will control the house of representatives and all of a sudden results started to come in from across the country. and they'll all virus. Salazar one in miami by three points gets donna. Shalala seats were starting to flipped that no one expected and others predictions were wrong. But i think it's worth exploring. Why were they wrong. And what was the reason why house republicans did so well. Why did republicans prove. Almost everyone wrong. Why did republicans win historic seats in texas florida. Ohio south carolina. California with young. Kim michelle steel and mike garcia. Why did this happen the answer. This question is actually one of us. Critical questions we can ask right now. It impacts the georgia senate runoff it impacts the voter integrity fights it impacts us diving deep into stopping the steel in georgia. Which we're going to dive into a great detail in this program because there is new footage out of atlanta and georgia by my friend. jackie decent. Who testified yesterday which probably might be the most clear evidence of video captured voter fraud. We have the answer to this. Question must be answered correctly. Why did republicans do so well. So the conventional establishment corporate republican answer is because well. We got our message incorrectly. We know that's not true. There's something deeper at play here as to why. Republicans did so well in shocking fashion in the house of representatives. So gonna play tape from a friend of mine. I like this representative. He's a hero. He nearly died but he's very wrong in this piece of tape. Steve scalise was asked by bill. Hemmer why he thought republicans did so well. Maybe he was caught off guard. Maybe he wasn't prepared. But i want you to listen carefully to a congressman steve. Scalise says here when he was asked why did republicans do so which is a natural question. Bill hemmer is asking. It's a good question and again. This is not about steve scalise. I'm just trying to confront and fort this line of thinking because it's not correct play cut fifteen but in the end when you look all the experts in washington were predicting we'd lose at least twelve republican seats instead probably gonna gain at least twelve twenty roughly twenty five hundred swing. We s a lot of people question. You got a lot of very interesting answers. Why do you think that is. The voters of this country rejected socialism and we confronted. It had on all of these democrats who embraced the defunct police movement and then when they realize the public didn't like it they tried to walk away from it but they were out there and those marches in many cases and embracing the idea of defunding. The police and people don't want that. I love congressman. Steve scalise as a hero and as a man this is just a corporate answer they won because the trump okay do not turn your back on the man who is now. Put you in a position to take back. The house of representatives in two thousand and twenty two without president trump getting seventy four million republicans out the most that republican has ever received in a presidential race without president trump. Doing historically both blacks hispanics and asian voters that president trump the election which he did very well house. Republicans would have got slaughtered. It's a little bit about defunding. The police it's very little about socialism. Instead it was about voting for a working persons party and also voter. Fraud was not as widespread and a lot of these races because the organized crime units were not focused on that understand a lot of the voter fraud that we saw in two thousand eighteen against young kim against michelle steel in orange county. I would make the argument that focus. A lot of the voter registration nonsense was re domiciled arizona and georgia that the experts that know how to cheat when it comes to ballot harvesting voter registration tactics. The corruption was not focused anymore on house races like it was in two thousand eighteen because the primary focus in two thousand eighteen was taking back the house from paul ryan now the primary focus was to defeat donald trump because that a lot of these house races flew below the radar and a lot of the get out the votes corruption machine politics. That democrats have gotten so good at at implementing. They were focused mostly on electoral prizes. Not on congressional seats. So steve scalise is answer next time he gets asked. This question needs to be the truth and needs to be. We are closer than ever to win back. The house of representatives thanks to president donald j trump. It's not because of some sort of counter socialist message it's not because some poll-tested focus group it's because president donald trump invigorated tens of millions of people to show up in a way that no one thought possible and president trump helped house republicans tremendously by teasing every so often that he thought he could win new york. Now i don't think president trump actually thought he would win new york but if his supporters thought he could win new york. That's an extra couple hundred thousand voters that helped get nicole. Mallow takas elected maybe claudia tenney elected when a long island house race. Help lead elden debt. Reelected as president trump nationalize. The election visited california in the last thirty days of the election in orange county. It did nothing but help house republican chances and while not discounting that house. Republicans did a good job of recruiting candidates. Burgess owens is a terrific candidate. Michelle steel young. Kim elvira salazar. These are friends of mine. Without trump at the top of the ticket those great candidates would have saw a two thousand eighteen fate. Good candidates losing narrow narrowly to the democrat machine. And i'm leading with this topic for a reason because it seems as if whether there is a intentional or unintentional effort out there to kind of sweep the trump impact under the rug. This is wrong. I read another article. That i'm going to dissect later in the program here of someone that i know. He's a nice guy think he's totally wrong. Offic roy who said that donald trump is going to put the republicans a demographic disaster paraphrasing but a trouble with demographics and the exact opposite is true. Now is the time to lean into president trump. not all the sudden have short-term length memory loss when it comes to president trump. it's hard to believe but christmas is exactly three weeks away from today. Cheese happen quick. 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She's a wonderful person and i heard her testimony. I couldn't believe it because it in some ways the video that she showed summarizes perfectly. What we know has been happening in georgia this video evidence of ballot fraud from atlanta. And let's get this video queued up. I think we have narration alongside of it. Don't we for radio good. So let's play the video with the narration. I'm going to walk through the significance of this video. Play tape in the morning. We're all this back in. Show it to you. Go out from under the table this table. The black one was placed there by the lady with the blonde braids. About eight twenty two. Am in the morning so she put tape there. Since april new stay behind the same person cleared the place out under the pretense that we're going to stop. Counting is the person who put the table there at eight. Twenty two in the morning yeah. I saw four c. Paces cannot from underneath the table. So suitcases were being brought underneath the table. After a supervisor gave the order to stop counting all the ballots. There was no election supervisor. Present present and. There's an estimated six thousand ballots in each box. Which if it's accurate it would amount to about twenty four thousand potential votes now. The clip was taken from the state farm arena and allegedly shows people taking out at least four of these boxes. And if you watch this video and those of you on radio. I understand that you obviously can't watch it so i encourage you guys who go to charlie kirk dot com. You can see the video yourself. You can see clearly that this is in violation to the supervisor's order and so one lawmaker says this the question is sense that this has been debunked repeatedly. What evidence can you give us the counters. What are election. Officials have presented us only an hour ago and jackie. Jackie pick said you just saw your officials need to watch the video and they have no response to this whatsoever. It is a bombshell video. And that is probably not the extent of all the cheating. What if this was happening in multiple rooms all across the state. I mean this could very well have impacted. Twenty four thousand votes in the state of georgia. Which is well beyond the margin not to mention the signature verification issues the voter registration issues. The people registering to vote at ups stores now. Why the focus on georgia will for a couple reasons. This is the clearest video evidence that we have been able gather which the fbi should be gathering to confirm all of our suspicions and to show us in clear evidence. This could be used in court to show that this election was done improperly. An expert team has put together a georgia summary right now. The margin between biden and trump is twelve thousand six hundred seventy votes. An estimate amount of illegal votes georgia is fifteen thousand. Three hundred thirty one. Which is an estimated amount of ballots. Question the name of a republican by someone other than that person. The estimated amount legal votes not counted. Which is the estimate amount of republican ballots that the request to return but were not counted is about twenty nine thousand eight hundred. Eighty four the estimated amount of illegal votes counted. Is that electors voted where they did not reside one hundred. Thirty eight thousand two hundred twenty one. The amount of illegal votes counted from out of state residents voting in state. Twenty thousand three hundred twelve and the amount of double votes estimated at three hundred ninety five. Just total all those together. It's about two hundred and four thousand one hundred and forty three. This is done by an independent analysis of people that have been looking into the fraud. Injust georgia yes. Things start to add up suspiciously and then you put this together at the state farm arena. Were all of this was taken place. We were told that a water pipe bomb. I which we now know is a line. We have text message evidence to show that its ally at seven forty. Two people go home ralph jones. The fulton elections manager stated that ballot processing would stop at ten thirty. But they kept on counting ballots. Well into the night unsupervised which is illegal against georgia law. Whether you're new to the gym or you've been lifting weights for years. It's hard to find the right workout program and stick to it. If you've ever gone to a gym it out a plan you know how overwhelming the weight room can feel will fit. Bod is a smart fitness app. That takes all the guesswork out of planning. Your workouts fit bods algorithm factors in your goals experience level equipment work duration and muscle recovery to intelligently craft the perfect total body workout program. Just for you. I can tell you a fit body gets you on track it balances muscle groups. It does a phenomenal job. 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Georgia sixty six thousand two hundred and forty eight underage and therefore ineligible people to illegally registered to vote before their seventeenth birthday when the law requires seventeen and a half years old at least two thousand four hundred and twenty three individuals to vote who were not listed as registered one thousand forty three individuals to cast ballots who had legally registered to vote using post office. Box four thousand nine hundred and twenty six individuals voted in georgia who had registered to vote after their georgia voter registration date. Thereby cancelling their georgia voter registration. Ten thousand three hundred and fifteen or more individuals to vote who are deceased by the time of the election. Three hundred and ninety five individuals to vote in georgia who had cast ballots in another state which is illegal in both states. Fifteen thousand seven hundred individuals to vote in georgia who had filed a national change of address with the united states. Postal service prior to november third. Two thousand twenty forty thousand two hundred and seventy nine individuals to vote who had moved across county lines at least thirty days prior to election day. And who had failed to properly reregistered to vote in their new county after moving also in violation of georgia law. And we're supposed to believe that there was no voter fraud in georgia or any other state. Georgia is the most outrageous example in particular. And i want to thank all of you. That are listening to this program and watching this livestream so i know a lot of you have been wondering what can we do. How can we help. Make a difference. How can we move the dial will you have. Brian campoo has severely mismanaged his state. Who i might be compromised by other interests. I don't know he's a republican but that does not mean he should be above. Criticism has all of a sudden called for a signature audit of all the ballots and georgia. He said this was in light of the surveillance video. That was screened thursday at the georgia. Judiciary committee meeting kemp told fox news. I called early on for a signature on it. Obviously the secretary of state for the laws the constitution to order that he has not done that. I think it should be done one. Phone call from camp up. Rothlisberger could easily make this happen. And so if brian campaign rothlisberger get serious about investigating their own state. Donald trump win the state of georgia. Now here's the issue. The issue is one of pride. Kemp roth and sperber are tap dancing around this because they don't want to admit that they actually screwed this up so let me offer a piece of advice to camp and rothlisberger. We already know you screwed it up. Your ambition at this point is not necessary instead. A pivot would be helpful instead. A pivot where you say we are now realizing how deep the treasury and the fraud is and we are going to expose it and we will not tolerate it. That would be helpful instead. Rothlisberger and camp are allowing pride to get in the way of truth. They are trying to hide behind this mirage. That they've done a wonderful perfect job. Protecting georgia's elections one believes that. Let's just be very clear. No one believes that georgia has done a good job protecting their elections so no matter what sort of cover fire smokescreen excuses talking out of the side of their mouth that they try to give. It's not resonating with anyone instead. Leadership means taking responsibility for things when they go wrong. Blame stacey abrams. If you have to camp are often burger find someone to put the blame on. If that's the most important thing for you but let me very clear the way you're currently handling. This is the worst of all possible scenarios. The way that you're currently handling this is your dancing on the fringes and around the edges of what is so obvious as the worst managed election in modern american history in georgia. How is it possible. Rothlisberger that we now have video evidence of four people in a room pulling out with could be twenty four thousand ballots under a table after an election. Supervisor says stop counting ballots and it's all counted on video. It's all caught on video. Have they been deposed by the georgia attorney. General had they be invest have been investigated by the fbi probably not. That's against the law. I want you to imagine if in two thousand sixteen when donald trump won the white house if in a trump friendly county in michigan traverse city. Or let's say the grand rapids area. All the sudden there is footage that was released of vote counters that were pulling out boxes of ballots after a supervisor says stop lights in a county that trump one. Do you think that the democrats and the media would be making a fuss about that and the democrats are happy to complain about voter fraud when it suits their agenda in iowa for example currently marionette is by six votes what is her democrat challenger doing challenging that and asking the us house of representatives to intervene in jerez. How about north carolina last year a north carolina race had a suspicion of ballot harvesting and voter fraud justice suspicion. How democrats react. They demanded another election and they got it so. Democrats are happy to complain about voter fraud. Even under the slight allegation with flimsy at times because republicans do not have the machinery the will or the infrastructure to commit this kind of organized voter fraud. Norwood republicans tolerated if anyone in our ranks ever did anything like this. We tell them to stop and kick them out of our party whereas democrats they promote you into the highest levels of leadership if you're able to cheat and steal and scam so it's not as if democrats are afraid to speak about these issues instead. It's a lot more likely that democrats use it conveniently when it fits their meredith when it gets them closer power and so it's really kind of all on rothlisberger at this point and camp other states matter as well but the georgia example needs to be the first one where we can prove that a signature audits ballot verification and a question into why were ballots being counted in the middle of the night after. We were told that they weren't going to be. Why were their ballots. Being counted without republicans present. None of this is surprising to those of us that have seen the numbers. And the irregularities. It's all kind of actually making sense. And i also refuse to believe that donald trump lost georgia and one florida by four points. It's not possible. We are playing some form of badminton while the dams and the liberals the left. They play tackle football. We've seen a take this more seriously quite honestly and for camp and rothlisberger that are hiding behind some form of state home pride. I hope they both realize and recognize how completely irrelevant cowardly week. They are in the eyes of those of us that know the difference between leadership and cowardice. And so the question is what do we do the answer. Is you keep the pressure on your relentless in our loving peaceful criticism of rothlisberger because now rothlisberger and georgia has come out. And i was just in georgia. The last couple of days advocating for kelly laughlin david purdue of which anyone who says you should not vote in those elections is completely wrong and might as well go receive a paycheck from chuck schumer or they should go right a multimillion dollar contribution to a democrat super pac. Anyone who says you shouldn't vote in. Those elections is carrying the water of the democrat superpac. However in georgia in particular democrats found a perfect combination motivated democrats hollywood money and weak republicans i call that the evil triad you've super weak republicans like camp and rothlisberger who never found a fight that they actually want to win. They run to the hills. They give stacey abrams everything she asks for. They have heartedly endorsed. Donald trump campaign defied donald trump's wishes to appoint kelly laughlin. I do. I'm working for kelley law floor for her to win. Let me just be very clear. That's not what we have received. And some people say charlie take it easy on republicans. No that's exactly the role of this program. By the way we elevate the good guys like rhonda santa's christina. Oh and we're lovingly critical of the guys on our team that are supposed to be wearing jersey because if not us then who and if you want to have an entire segment dedicated you go act like ron the santa's we did that yesterday. Who's a hero and some people say trial. You're doing no good actually. We're doing a lot of good. Let me tell you why because of the pressure that we've put on this program amongst many others rothmans burgers out and said that there are two hundred and fifty open investigations of voter fraud in the state of georgia. Interesting how that works camp. Now come out and says why call for a signature audit these moderate republicans and these establishment. Republicans will do what they're told. Make them feel the heat and no media matters. That does not mean. I'm calling for any form of threats violence or any of that nonsense instead. You keep the pressure on what's been quite a year. 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You'll receive that coin for free if you purchase holiday offer so learn more called noble gold at eight seven seven six four six five three four seven and tell them charlie kirk sent you ask for noble gold holiday. Thank you offer by calling eight seven seven six four six five three four seven or visit noble goals investments dot com. Why is it that. Republicans in leadership went from saying there is no fraud. Our elections are perfect flawless. And saying now. I wanna signature vote audit. I want investigations all over the place. It's because president trump and you have kept the pressure on and if you wanna make a difference and yes we are also broadcasting in atlanta. So if you're listening to this and the georgia metro area then go contact every single one of your state. Legislators rothlisberger and camp and demand a ballot by ballot signature verification for citizenship for residency citizenship for living or not. That would be a nice spot check and a lot of these. Republicans are put into office because people desire leadership. Brian kemp is no different. Brian kemp campaign as a tough guy. And i applaud. Brian kemp for opening up his state quicker than most. He deserved credit for that. We did a whole segment on that. But the way he's handled. This election has been a disaster. Listen to how. Brian kemp campaign for office when he wanted your vote in georgia play tape. I'm brian kim. I'm so conservative. I blow up government spending on gun. No one's taken away much. Chainsaws ready to rip up some regulation. I got a big trump just in case a need to roundup criminal illegals and take them home myself. Yeah i'd this said that. I'm brian kim. If you wanna politically incorrect conservative mass me politically correct conservative. All of a sudden afraid to talk about voter fraud. I wonder why could it be the relationship with dominion voting systems. I don't know this is how they run and we have to remember that. I want to play cut. Which cut is this. A twenty four diminish a witness testifying that dominion voting systems can remotely control the voting devices to reprogram them. Play cut twenty four. That indicates to me is somehow able to communicate with the device that you were and to give you an example. I call up apple. And i say you know this is what's happening and they say would do. I have permission to take over your computer. And of course i give them the permission to do that because i want it fixed. That was the exact same thing. I had to give them permission to take over my poll pad so that they could reprogram from adams park almost as if apple support has remote access to your devices. That is what they're basically outlining that dominion voting systems would have remote access to your voting software and systems and so experts are saying that fifteen thousand seven hundred voters had moved out of the state of georgia. Forty thousand changed county and didn't reregistered vote. Ten thousand three hundred fifteen died before the election. Four thousand nine hundred. Twenty six voted past the voter registration. Date one thousand forty three used. Po box but we're told by bill barr in the department of justice. There's no voter fraud. They don't investigate any of this stuff. Two thousand four hundred twenty three weren't registered at all sixty six thousand two hundred forty eight under the age of eighteen voted. That would be an interesting thing to look into. Two thousand and fifty six felons illegally voted. This does even count the loose signature. Verification people getting multiple out so. I did an event in georgia to evenings ago and asked a room of hundreds of people as we were. There advocating for kelly. Laughlin david purdue. I asked them how many of you received a ballot that you did not request. I would say about eighty people's hands went up so robbins bergkamp. How do you explain that. Do you know that. I didn't event in florida and i asked that same question with hundreds of people and nobody's hands went up because actually know how to run elections in florida rhonda santa's as a leader. There's a blueprint for this. There's a playbook for this and georgia has basically emerged as a third world country and the way that they run elections and it would be a hilarious monty python skit if it wasn't the tragedy of the fall of the republic week. Republicans motivated democrats out of state. Money comes together to all the sun. Turn a once. Red state into a temporarily. Blue state and disenfranchised the voice the voters. Thanks so much for listening. Everybody you guys can e mail us your questions freedom. Charlie kirk dot com. And if you enjoy what we do on this program. I consider supporting us to charlie kirk dot com slash support. Thanks so much than the everybody draw blood.

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"Download gun deleo for free today and start saving money get alerts to hot deals by walking into a gun store. Plus offers new products and videos sent straight to your smartphone. Get your gear for less gun. Deleo dot com all right. Welcome back. tom gresham here. It's gun talk number. Eight six six talk gun. That'll get you in here. Of course actually easier. If you just call tom. Talk gun released. It's easier for me to remember. If you're wondering yet gun talk. We talk about guns here. Rifles pistols shotguns. Optic scopes holsters cases slayings accessories. Pretty much anything that has to do with guns and shooting and of course safe gun storage safe firearms use training practice. Ammo ya ammo. Try to find 'em anyway you know what's going on people are buying guns like crazy out there. We got the new numbers water. Six million seven million guns purchase this year so far. The national shooting sports foundation says we're looking at close to half a billion guns owned by americans. Crazy numbers understandable. Hey gotcha fund country useful. Guns are life saving devices but right. now there's such a run on guns. It's hard to find guns. And you know what i'm talking about and so some people are shopping for new guns shopping for used guns. Obviously one of the people we talked to all the time about this stuff is as john dory over dury's guns and and johnny you're in are talking about how us at the pipeline is just an empty these days of guns. What are you seeing or not look this morning for a guy wanted a youth model by people or seven millimeter early and i warned him any configuration. In any manufacturer out there. There should bution this morning. Not one with all your suppliers. None absolutely realistically. That's the only way that anybody's gonna get anything without having to be here every morning to see what you got in is just put the money down and get the next one that comes in the store so really putting down a real deposit and then just being patient because it can take. This is not a case that we'll have it in a week. It might be a month. They might literally might be six months. It could be but at least they know that they're they're on a list and we should get as much stuff as anybody out there should and you know that's the only way that we're going to have them able to get this the product otherwise Made out the check on it every day to see if something come in and then somebody else it on the weight and live with it. So it's it's changed or dynamics a lot on what we're having to do to to fill the people's needs you know we need forty or fifty new guns day and we're getting twenty So it's been it's been tough. I mean business been good. that demand is there We bought two huge gun collections. month and a half ago. Eight hundred ninety three out of mexico. And you're radio so that's that pulled us through real wealth rock tober november. You know. I was just last week talking about a story. I saw where some guy inherited like. I don't know eighty or ninety guns from a relative and this guy didn't know anything about guns didn't know what to do with them so he took them to the police department and turned them in. Because you quote unquote didn't want them to fall into the wrong hands and of course where he was. I can't remember what the police department ended up destroying them. And i'm thinking. Oh my god you know i mean obviously you buy those a gun stores will by those there but you know i guess the the lesson on that is if you have a bunch of guns and you have a collection rather than if you don't have anybody in your family you want to leave them to sell them for heaven sakes and make sure they go through the process and for those who don't know when you get a collection of guns like that when you re sell them now. It goes into the system. They have to do the background check. And everything else right correct. Yeah it's just like buying a gun so they're really really low percentage of all the wrong hands because they got a background check systems and all of that on the us going just the same as they do on the new one so he left a lot of money on the table. Unbelievable and could have ensured. They're not going into the wrong hands. Be checks out every single one of those purchases so so that kind of leads me to. If we're having trouble finding new guns and i know people say well why don't they make more saying well. You know what they would they could. They're making every gun they can make right now. Hardly exactly you know. Maybe you start looking. Educate yourself own shopping for us guns. Yeah that's right a little more out. There is You've been doing and it's on both sides of it so People that are looking to get rid of some of their guns. There's no better time. The surprises are as strong as ever been on. You know we're paying Super premiums just to get merchandise in the store. They can't get enough of the new car. No there's people that are getting older. And saying i don't wanna leave my kids or battery with a bunch of stuff coming to the point of my life where they will. There's no better time than now to get rid of those guns and Seeing some people do that so the people that are out there looking for guns. They can't find something their chances for pick up some deals on some years. Toast to me to know if you have somebody families or this person. I know he's always wanted this. That's fine gift giving that gun and do it before you died putting your will give it to him but head of time so you can tell the stories and all that but the other thing is if you have people in your family they. I don't know that they know what to do with this. It actually becomes a burden on the people. You've left the guns to trying to figure out. What do i do with these things. I don't know what to do with them. It better off selling them now and if you want to give them the money exactly and what. We're seeing some people do that. Just take that burden off of the family. Then we're seeing some people that had some collections and they're getting up in age and I tell them take some of the guns that you never using anymore and upgrades or something that you always wanted. No they're not go. You wanted to get some stuff and and clear out those safes and go. Buy yourself something you wouldn't normally watch and enjoy it as you as you get up there and and now go pippa on. That's always wanted to go take ten thousand dollars and go buy one ten thousand dollars on that you always wanted ever thought you could afford and which brings me to this other questions. What's the market like on higher in guns. Those are probably not quite as much in demand is like your basic self defense guns these days here soon that follow fox starting with it. They're the top in collectible guns in the top conditions have still continue to do real well. wait till it. Actually the the winchester robert guns within a slow some but they had a bickering. Certain that i didn't see common where they're gonna leave this. We've got a bunch of those those collections or may salt through about as fast. We've ever seen them. I think some of that. Is i think some of that is people just been home. And not spending their money on travel and mouth and going to the movies and all that and they've got some extra income in and they're you know they're playing around on the computers and seeing what's out there and or that's a little for guns we had it they just fake left here in a hurry. It's funny you say that. I got some friends couple and both of them used to commute like talking hour and a half each way a day right and now they're working virtually and it said you know we are saving so much money. Were not eaten out like we used to all the time it. We're not commuting. And i think there are a lot of people doing that and they're sitting around and go. What am i gonna do all this. Maybe i'll buy a cool gun exactly and we have seen that we've seen that for circle on on some of the nicer stuff. And and i've seen some people trade in some guards and upgrading and so it's just a you know they more time on the computer and seeing what's out there and that'd be created some demand mixed bag can and for those who don't know your your stores ganges in san antonio but it's really a national store people can call you. That can buy guns and you know perfectly legal for those who are concerned. It's perfectly legal. You ship to their local dealer and you got a whole team gunsmiths go over the guidelines before you let him out of there and then it comes with that lifetime guarantee which is incredible correct. Yeah we've got six gunsmiths on staff our and it bets. Another the business that we didn't anticipate with his co. litter people being home and going through and looking at their guns in april. They brought guns infra so worker on it rates. We've never seen before you know what it is. People are looking to go. Spend money on now. But i do love the idea of saying okay. I've got a gazillion guns and my gun safe that i haven't pulled out. Some of them have not been fired and ten fifteen twenty years. Pull out a dozen or more of those things and say what's good. I would really like taff whether it's in rifle whether it's a long range rifle a cool me. Something gorgeous woodstock maybe like high and shotguns. Get rid of a bunch of the other stuff and take that money a you know i would never go spend ten or fifteen or twenty thousand on a gun. Except why wouldn't i just turn guns into a gun and when you get to those higher in guns and you get to those super quality in two per collectible stop. They probably were going to increase in value at a higher raping other guns trade it in on or anyway so people can upgrade and and do that and not feel bad about it and also market for us guns in a strongest depend. If you got guns you know you think about getting rid of her selling they just give you guys a call. That's a call. 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That's a really nice guy. That's a fun little rifle. And it is and i know that i don't like some guns. I like almost all guns. Buy stock talked with him. He went out to the rain. Checking on some loads head for its forty four magnum. Any shoot him out his super red hawk revolver and they weren't shooting well and he thought well taken his chambal. Ruger sim jato deer slayer rifle and tried. Those low just worked perfectly. In that. I mean i was thinking about what a great little rifle that was and how so many of us would like for them to bring it back for whatever reason they can't or don't or won't but you know which one of those doesn't mean we can't keep bugging them for it right. Okay now. here's an interesting story you know. Of course probably. You've heard of john. Lott a researcher. Dr dr john lott. He's written a number of books about guns and studies on guns more guns less crime the bias against guns and some others. He's kind of been the researcher on the side of the second amendment to offset all of the paid. And i call him phoney researchers doing phony studies about guns that you get from the gun ban industry out there well. This was an interesting story. Us department of justice the justice department. It has hired john lott to be a senior adviser for research and statistics at the office of justice programs. Vision that's pretty darn cool. Lot says he was quoted. As saying i took a job at the department of justice. I'm really not supposed to say more than that. Three told politico varying article says came to the agency from his not nonprofit organization he found in two thousand thirteen dubbed the crime prevention research center. I don't know if i've actually ever mentioned here. We made a sizable as fifty thousand dollar donation to john. Lots crime prevention research center in terms of in-kind work with them a few years ago a good group important research important stuff for us to to have coined the phrase many many years ago intellectual ammunition in the debate that we have about guns. We have to have intellectual ammunition we have have. You can't go into a fight without some kind of ammo and when is a battle of words and ideas and then often statistics you gotta have some and one of the things that i'm seeing right now. I know you're gonna know exactly what i'm talking about. Is the weaponising of the word science. We're seeing with the corona virus. Well there is not following science. We believe in the science. The problem is of course that the science ends up being studies and the studies are funded by whoever has the money and the agenda. That certainly has been true. The gun rights side of things for many years you've had a number of scholars again air quotes scholars putting out studies in books about guns. One of them actually got big awards for his book. Saying you know the original americans colonial columnist. They weren't really into guns and all sorts of data except that when he never had a peer reviewed. This is bill. I'm talking about people. Poke saying where's the data. Where's the studies. Where's the background. Where it's i mean. That's a standard deal. If you're gonna put out a study like that. Oh it all got destroyed. Oh i can't find it. Oh i don't know where it is. I'm not kidding it was. I had a a leak at flooded and destroyed all my papers in the end it turned out. He made it all up. He got huge it. They actually pulled his award. That's been not unusual on the gun ban side of quote unquote research a lot of phony stuff. Going on out there lot of it. Funded by the bloomberg's of the world s. Go talk to nick on line. Three out of new york state nick. What's on your mind sir. Hey tom I've got a ruger p one. Oh one In three fifty. Seven magnum with those two and a quarter inch barrel and Looking for recommendations for Carry ammo in thirty eight special plus p or personal defence for homes Got a couple thoughts. First of all. I know you don't because you're asking the question but for everyone else. Short barreled means shorter. Less velocity generally speaking. You don't have as much barrel for the to build up speed so couple of things. If i have to go back and look pretty sure. That sig makes a thirty eight load. Sickest become a serious gun. Emma maker i think sig has thirty eight low dismayed for short barreled revolvers. That would be one. Consider the other one and on the leaped to my mind. I was the honey. Badger ammo from black hills. Ammo the reason. I mentioned that one is because it does not depend upon bullet expanding for it to work. It is a non expanding bullets that creates huge trauma because of the shape of the bullet. And if you go look at the black hills website. You'll see what i'm talking about but it's called honey. Badger ammo and so yeah. It's got a basically scan of scoops if you will out of the nose and this description. I came up with as they were describing to me how it works. I what's like when you put your thumb over the end of a garden hose and the water sprays down the sides and it goes really fast. That's this does is. It goes through a mostly liquid material it squirts the liquids out to the sides at great velocity causes trauma but the boat does not need to use energy to deform to work. It's a brilliant design. And you also get pretty deep penetration with it which again takes me back to. Why would think this would work pretty well and a short barrel revolver. That would be one. I would certainly take a look at and maybe get a box. Just try it. See how it works for you and your lauber out. The other thing is about that and this is again important in these little be revolvers. They are generally lighter bullets and they have a little bit less. Recoil which would be handy. Yeah well yes. People want to win the tank. Anyway so it don't have to worry about that too much What are your thoughts on. The old fbi loaded with the lead semi wad cutters. 'cause i i. It's not expanding. But i heard you get pretty consistent moon channel and because it's it's lead It'll also go through bowness. Necessary kinda sorta and the honey. Badgers kind of a version of that. It's just a more modern version homogeneous bulletin than have any lead. Nothing wrong with that particularly if you can get something like with keith style. Semi wad cutter bullet those work pretty well. It's just a case of how fast we'll go. I think i would probably like to see eight hundred nine hundred feet per second if you can get that out of your two two and a half inch barrel. It's not a bad way to go. But i was sort of take a look at the ammon. That's more modern that's made four short bear revolvers. I'm pretty sure hornets has some some and then again. Let's i say i would probably gravitate toward that. Honey badger at least give that a try. Look i appreciate the call. Nick thank you very much. Our number here is eight. Six six talk gun if you've been to the range i'd like to know what you took out there. If you take somebody introduced in the shooting we love love. Love those kind of range reports so you're always welcome here with that eight six six talk gun. In the meantime check us out gun talk gun. Talk dot com. We'll be right back. Welcome back tom gresham here. It's gun talk eight six six talk. Of course i know. I know i know everybody says why. Do you talk about politics so much. Well because we have to. I honestly i would love to talk about guns and shooting an ammo and cool stuff going out and hunting and taking the kids out to the rains and all the rest of it but the obvious if we don't pay attention to politics and what that means we may not be able to do those other. Things certainly are enough people enough agencies enough groups working to take that away from us that we have to pay attention to it and and the fight is constant. And you're not going to win it and it's never gonna be over. This is just going to be constant and this is what we have to do a gentleman who knows all about that is united states congressman. Steve scalise is the minority. Whip in the house republican. He joins us. Right now. Congressman. thank you so much for spending some time with us today. It's always great to be back with you. How you've been doing what we had a great thanksgiving. I'm good. We had a good thanksgiving. I hope you to question for you. Let me jump right in you. You've been a member of congress for a number of years. And i guess i say at least as far as the house. You had a good election didn't you. Were in the house. We we actually flip at least twelve seats from democrats or republican. There's still a few more that we're waiting on but If you look these were all these democrats that ran two years ago saying that they were going to be pro god pro second amendment and then they voted with pelosi on the gun. Control agenda and believe me. They brought a few bills that take away their second amendment rights over the last two years and those people had voted by the way to take away your rights. Getting to your point of why people should be involved in politics are they. Were voted out of office. And it's good. That people are watching how people vote. Because you can say you're pro second amendment but then when you vote to take away my gun rights second amendment and you need to be voted out and a lot of them got voted out. You make a good point. It's something i've told people for years and years. Look and you've been in politics. You've been in the louisiana legislature in the senate and house for a long time and you work across the aisle with democrats and people say well. Yes so a good democrat. He's a good good on guns. And i'll say look i understand that but once you get to united states congress. If you're in the house you know pelosi is going to tell you what you're going to do and if you don't then you're not going to get the committee assignments you're not going to get the work. You're not going to get the support. You're basically going to have to do that. So i don't know if you would agree but basically i've been telling people if you vote for a democrat in congress in the house your voting basically for the gender of nancy pelosi or chuck schumer. Am i overstating that. Lets exactly what it's become about and in fact you know when you look at a lot of these people that went up. They said they weren't going to be voting. Pelosi down the line and every one of them voted with pelosi over ninety percent of the time. In time when you're nancy pelosi ninety percent of the time. You're not even a liberal. Your socialist and people are fed up with that. I mean chuck schumer the other day. You're talking about these georgia's senate races. And i wanna thank you for highlighting to people how important it is but chuck schumer just a week ago. Said if we change georgia we change. America look when when liberals from new york talk about changing america. They're not talking about giving you more rights. They're not talking about making it easier for you to to not only by a gun but to keep the gun that you have in your house. I mean they proposing right now. He's thirty four billion dollar tax on guns. That's that's just gone then. The kind of stuff. These people are four. Now it's crazy people understand what we're talking about. They're talking about a two hundred dollar tax on your semiotics each of your semiautomatic firearms and believe it or not a two hundred dollar tax on each of the magazines. That go into your semiautomatic firearm. They would make them all in. If items basically the same as a machine gun or a short barrel shotgun or rifle or silencer two hundred dollar tax on each one of those and some of us congressman own not one or two or three but in the case of magazines we may owns well over a hundred of those two hundred dollars a piece. That's outrageous or right and this time as part of their agenda to take away gun rights. you know they. they've recognized they can't have especially with donald trump in office. Easily the most pro second amendment president we've had in generations and you know if you if you look at what they're trying to do. They know that now right now with the supreme court they by the way they want to pack the supreme court if they win georgia but they want to be able to change the laws and they can't so they're gonna say well if we just tax you out of being able to buy a gun. Many people that extra two hundred dollars it can be cost prohibitive and stop people from buying guns. They're using agencies like the epa in the past under biden obama. They'd use the epa to try to ban Let ammunition you know why and become so hard to buy so they go after you and so many different ways. It's why we need to be vigilant on. Level of the political spectrum exactly congressman. We ask you to hold a second. We'll take a quick break because know we have a couple of things i want to talk about. We're talking with house. Minority whip. Steve scalise congressman. Us congressman from state of louisiana. We'll be right back with more gun. Talk a striking out on your gun. 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You are one of the very few people who actually survived an assassination attempt in june of two thousand seventeen and and you know you made the point you were saved by people who had guns you were saved by to capitol hill police officers. Yeah you know tom a you know. I'm lucky to be alive. But i wouldn't be alive if it wasn't for david and crystal that the capitol police officers who were there with handguns. That were able to take down this. This is crazy not that that had a rifle trying to kill all of us because we're republicans and when people talk about defunding police by the way you know that gets personal with me as well because you know these crazy people that talk about getting rid of police and You know take it away. Our gun rights. Who's who's gonna have the guns to protect us. You know you wanna police call some social workers gonna show up with a you know a pat on the back or something i mean th th this lunacy so but some of these people are talking about yet they really do believe it. I mean by themselves said he wants to ban. Ar fifteen you know would would probably try to beta or work as As atf head. So i mean recounts by the way president. Trump's doing the fight months to try to make sure that every legal votes counted and they're still battling pennsylvania. They got a win kind of goes back and forth georgia. They're still fighting wisconsin. So you've got the senate races in georgia in january. But in the meantime president trump still fighting in the courts to try to to resolve all these issues that have been raised about what happened on election day in november. Absolutely and you know it's and people say well. Why didn't he just concede who said. We don't concede if you haven't lost and if the battle in his mind and i know in mind a lot of people the battle is still there because we frankly don't trust what happened if you go through to the end of it was legitimate that work because that's one thing but until we get to that point. We're not there yet. You got to keep working the fight right in the race. Haven't been certified. The electoral college members haven't voted yet And and that's what the process is this. This idea that it already is over. You know when you give states like pennsylvania still having very serious legal questions You know one court said that it's illegal what they did and allowing ballots to be accepted after the polls closed which was their law by the way You know and that's an issue that the supreme court is going to be having to take up. There's other issues out there like that here and again you look at georgia. There's still this race in january. And everybody's gotta stay focused on it because on one side. The president's in court fighting There but on the other side to let chuck schumer take Take over the united states. Senate is at stake. And i don't think it's gonna be a split. I think georgia either goes one way or the other. I don't think there are any undecided. Voters left in georgia. It's just whether or not you're gonna show up and if you're if you're a voter in georgia and you care about your second amendment rights you have to show up per voter early if you can't show up on election day on january fifth a please do everything in your power to go. Vote early So that your voice is heard and so that you're not going to allow the people like chuck schumer you know by the way michael bloomberg spent millions of dollars trying to elect more people and he's gonna try to spend more money order to try to senators to take away our gun rights to tax the guns that we have today in the also have a registry of all handguns because they want to ban. Ar fifteen but they also wanna take them away and if they don't take them away they want you to register them. I mean these people will not stop at anything you know. Mark kelly got elected narrows zona on an agenda taking away our rights and he barely won that race. Let me ask you to in the georgia race. And it's always been frustrating to me that some gun owners don't seem to take it seriously they go. Oh yeah they're not really going to. Our congress really really wouldn't do that if you would. And you've been up there long enough. Now you you know. The landscape describe the willingness of the democrats to push through their agenda if they get the white house the house and the senate and the speed at which they will try to move kind of paint that landscape. Boris the time. I think people still view congress the way maybe they view their state legislatures in both parties have people on both sides that you know i. I'm a republican. i'm also a conservative. You know we've got people of different philosophies within the republican party and the democrats side. I think people are still used to the blue dogs. The conservative democrats that would go up to washington and they'd vote to protect your second amendment rights. They vote to protect life. They were pro life and pro gone and they were fiscally responsible. There are none of those. They're extinct species. You'll find more spotted owls than you will find blue dogs in washington because they just don't exist anymore. You're either a liberal or socialist if you're a democrat in congress and i'm sorry it's like that i wish it wasn't but that's just the way it is right now. In frankly the socialists have been beating the liberals within the democrat party Pelosi caters to the aoc wing of the party. Much more than she does the liberals but this idea that there any progun democrats left They they're not only not even pro-life On on the battle for abortion there for allowing a baby to be killed when it's born alive outside the womb. Call that abortion. You're not even in the pro choice. Debate there So that's how far left. Their party has shifted so take away. Your gun rights is just who they are. They believe in very very passionately and and we see these folks are. Don't think that they won't do it if they're given the opportunity and they're giving that majority in the senate that was. That was the thing that's trying to get people like you. Just don't understand. They really do seriously believe in this and they really do want to do this. And the moment they get the opportunity. They're gonna shove it through as fast as they can and right now. Not make an assumption our. Let's work with this assumption. Assuming that joe biden ends up in the white house not a safe assumption right now but if that happens the the only thing stopping that right now would be the republicans maintaining control of the senate and that really is down to these two runoff races. And even if you're not a georgia resident where you could vote. Even if you're in another state you can donate money you can. You can help in some form. That's right you know. Both both candidates on our side. You've got senator purdue and send laughlin the the two republicans. They're two very far left. Democrats running against both of them so That are running against both of them. And there's a lot of money coming in from outside georgia on both sides probably a lot more coming in on the democrat side Because they know this is this. Is it for them. This is the mother lode. If they get the senate and the house they literally can control the legislative branch of congress. They wanna add dc in puerto rico state so they can get four more united states senators on the democrat side. They want to pack the supreme court because they see what the supreme court is doing. That i mean just looking at the the. The last decision made about a week ago finally allowing religious liberty california saying. You can't stop people from going to church. You can go to a strip club or a bar in california but you can't go to church. Sorry that's a violation of our first amendment rights and it was a five four decision. Time should have been a nine zero decision. It was a five four decision. Would with john robertson. We've been disappointed by john. Roberts for a long time now. John roberts voted with the liberals to say you you you should you know. California gavin newsom can block you from going to church. You can go to a fancy restaurant with his friends. But you can't go to church with your friends and your family and that's what was at stake. That's how big of a deal this is in. These georgia raises. Exactly well congressman. Thank you so much again. I really appreciate your time. This is a lot of time. You're spending with us and just to let you know that you are always welcome here. We very much appreciate how you fight for us. I know how much is at stake in these elections. Tom you know what's at stake. And i thank you for for letting your audience here all of these different viewpoints and i just think everybody listen for for not only caring about the second amendment in exercising your second amendment rights of also for promoting that way too. Because you both for people who are against your second amendment will go away there. It is an congressman. We are just out of time. I apologize but we've got to run to the break here. Conscious steve scalise He is the minority with. Give new that message. Those senate runoff races in georgia really are as we keep saying all the marbles you gotta be involved but if you're not in georgia you can still donate a little money there. Eight six six talk god. We'll be right back. Sherpa she congressman. Scully spent time with us today. Yes suffered an assassination guy. Ask you is are those all republicans when it was confirmed they republicans. He went out and tried to kill them. All contract was shot seriously seriously injured wounded a saved by to capitol police officers with handguns. Going after a guy with a rifle for those who say oh yeah well. You're going to be any good against a rifle anything. I'm sorry you don't eight. Six six talk. Gun called in out of anchorage alaska. Thank you for your patients. How can we help you today. See if kobe still there. Hey hey. Kobe their guessing. He may have this. That's just rude. I'm just telling you we'll see if we get him back we'll get him here anyway. Conscience colossus talking about the co. That i liked the best. And this is a guy who's been in politics long time as i say he's worked across the aisle his work with with democrats. Obviously republican is said democrats who support the second amendment are an extinct species in congress. They don't exist. I've been saying for a long time and say that. I wish it weren't true. And he said same thing. True used to not be that way. I remember when people said yeah. He's a democrat but he's good on guns he's okay he's good on our pop just put his party doesn't mean he's not good on our agenda weird they don't exist anymore. He said an extinct species and he mentioned he said look. There were democrats who got elected promising to support the second amendment and then when they get in they vote exactly the way. Nancy pelosi tells them to vote. I've been saying that for years. They get in their thinking. Well i'm going to be my own man. I'm going to be my own woman. And then they get a little sit down and they get a little talking to just. Here's the thing. You won't get the right committee assignments but more than that if you don't do what we tell you to do. The party won't support you in your reelection effort. We're primary somebody against you. You'll be here for two years and you'll be gone so they turn around and like good little soldiers they line up and they vote against the second amendment. They vote for the gun band. They vote for the gun control measures. They do exactly what they're told which leads me to the thing i have said for years of for any democrat for the house is a vote for nancy. Pelosi of vote for any democrat in the senate vote for chuck schumer and their agendas. And that's what you're going to get. That's what they're gonna do. Now as congressman. Just this is look. We've taken back twelve c to maybe some more still out there in the house in the senate it's tough it's tight right now. Republicans have fifty seats in the senate. Democrats have forty eight and there are two racists still to be decided and they're in run and they're both in georgia too weird circumstance normally wouldn't happen this way but they're both in georgia the republicans get one of those and i agree with him. I think they're either both going to go democrat that they're both gonna republican if they get both of those than mitch. Mcconnell can stop the gun control measures from going through if the democrats get both of those seats. Then it's fifty fifty and campbell. Harris is the breaker and they can run through any gun ban gun tax city gun restriction. They want not just in georgia. Understand where you live your guns your magazines question is what are you willing to do. Check go to win red. Wfan dot com. You can make a donation. We'll be right back.

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All of our agents can says watch me just watch me by guests mayor, Pete Buddha. Judge of Indiana and growing tensions with Iran, the US blames Iran for attacks on oil tankers and considers deploying forces to protect oil shipments. I'll talk to House Republican whip Steve, Scalise of Louisiana and our own Richard angle reports from the region. Join be for insight and analysis. Aw, lark. Liebich chief national correspondent for the New York Times magazine Daniel Plaka of the American Enterprise Institute, syndicated columnist, George will and Helene Cooper Pentagon correspondent for the New York Times. Welcome to Sunday. It's meet the press. From NBC news in Washington. The longest running show in television history. This is meet the press. Good Sunday morning and happy Father's Day to all the dads out there. We're going to get to President Trump and election interference in our new poll numbers in a moment, but we're gonna start with the growing tension between the United States in Iran. The US is blaming around for attacks this week onto oil tankers in the Gulf of Oman. Iran denies it was responsible. And there are fears that hardliners in both countries will use the incidents to push for a military confrontation. And B C news chief foreign correspondent, Richard Engel is in estan bull Turkey this morning with the latest on this concern. And so Richard, I is the US allegation against a rod that they did it being taken seriously in the region. And with western allies. I think it is being taken seriously sources. I've been speaking to are not doubting, the Americans accounting of events. They think that the Iranians did it. They think they did it in such way to show their displeasure to show their anger that they've been boxed in by sanctions. They think that the Iranian didn't want to attack US interests in order not to provoke at least at this stage, any kind of shooting war, but sources, I'm speaking to are I'm not hearing other accounts of who was responsible so Richard there, clearly is divides in Iran on, on how aggressive to get there's divides in our own country, and the president and his national security adviser. I know there's concern of an accident happen happening. I walk us through the Iranian divide. So the, the issue is not so much an accident. We talk about this. Like we're on a slippery slope toward war. We've been put in this position. There've been a series of events that have put us right where we are right now. Let's start with the Iranian side. So there are hardliners in Iran who've said for a long time that they should be taking a much stronger action, a more confrontational approach feasibly. The United States, particularly after the United States started to ratchet up sanctions put Iran into a corner back them into a position where they fear. They have no other economic options, they have been those voices. Those hard line voices have been losing out to moderates, but as the sanctions, get tighter and tighter, the hardliners are now in the ascendancy. So you have the hardliners there who think it's a good idea. Apparently to attack commercial shipping in order to show their displeasure and to show their strength. You also have hardliners in the United States. Who put us in this situation, who may have made the sanctions on Iran, so impossible that Iran felt backed into a corner, and it is reacting. It is very predictable. I've been watching this for a long time, and I could've told you, if you ratchet up the sanctions up to a point that they are unbearable on Iran, that Iran would react, and the hardliners would get the upper hand and I think a lot of people around President Trump Bolton among the know exactly that that's how Iran would react, very, very tenable situation very quickly. I assume is a as US military, the US navy going to be used as a essentially a military escort for tankers pretty soon in the Gulf of Oman. Well, we could get we could get to that stage. President Trump said in that phone call with FOX and friends that the straits of Hormuz will remain open, almost at any cost, so US military escort would be an escalation, let's see if, if it has to come to that. All right. Richard Engel reporting for us in its stumbled Turkey this morning. Richard, as always thanks very much turning out of politics. It has become something of a cliche, that from the moment, Donald Trump came down, that escalator four years ago today, he has changed the norms of our politics, whether as a candidate declaring the John McCain was no war hero, or as president siding with ladder Putin, over his own intelligence agencies or declaring there were some very, fine people on both sides of the Neo Nazi protests in Charlottesville. There's a familiar pattern step one stay or do something startling step to public and press react with shock outrage approval or all of the above step three say or do something else. Startling. Step, four publican press, forget about step one wash rinse repeat, the latest example, Mr. Trump saying this week. Sure, I'd take incriminating information about an opponent from a foreign government. Many heard that as Mr. Trump saying Russia, if you're listening, come on in the water's, fine, if you can help again, I'll take it, perhaps, the most remarkable thing about this four year cycle of these this one goes to eleven controversies is, how steadying mediocre, the president's approval ratings have remained through it all in our brand new NBC news, Wall Street Journal poll forty four percent approve of the president's job performance, fifty three percent disapprove that forty four percent approval rating is right in line with where it's been in the past year with just one exception always holding between forty three and forty six percent, consistently all of which is to say, Mr. Trump style is both a weakness and a strength a weakness because the controversies have kept his approval rating from ever even reaching fifty percent, but a strength because with each new controversy, it becomes easy to forget what last week's fuss was all about. They have information. I think I'd take it for years after descending on that escalator and Trump Tower and announcing his candidacy for President Mr Trump is preparing to kick off his reelection campaign on Tuesday in battleground, Florida, this week, he made it clear if a foreign government offer some help to win he will take it, this is somebody that said we have information on your opponent. Oh, let me call the FBI. Give me a break. Lifeless director says that's what should happen. The FBI director is wrong is campaign called those Trump comments a directive the president's directive as he said a case by case basis, he said he would likely do both listen to what they have to say. Also reported to the FBI, but after some Republicans condemn the idea of accepting foreign help again in two thousand twenty it would strike at the very heart of our democracy. I think the steady of thing I think as mistake of law, and the chair, the Federal Election Commission pointed out that taking formation of value, from a foreign national is illegal, actually. Black letter law. It's pretty straightforward on Friday. The president tried to backtrack. And of course you have to look at it. Because if you don't look at it, you're not gonna know of its bad. How are you going to know of it spanned? But of course you give it to the FBI or reported to the attorney general still Senate Republican leader Mitch McConnell blocked, a Bill that would require FBI disclosure of any foreign assistance, while Democrats competing to take on Trump pounced on his comments. I believe it was perfectly willing to break the law. It's a legal. It is legal, what he said was openly treasonous to form of terrorism. So if the guy hates America, Mr. Trump's opponents are struggling with how far to go would you want the department of Justice, now that he is no longer a sitting president, to go forward with those obstruction of Justice charges? I believe that they would have no choice and that they should. Yes, there has to be accountability by Friday. Harris was trying to backtrack. They said that we department of Justice willing to go and follow the facts wherever they lead and ahead of their first debate. The twenty twenty Democrats are each trying to prove they are best equipped to take Mr. Trump on gigantic mistake, if Democrats twenty or whatever number we have go after each other, but former vice president Biden's rivals are already playing up the contrast that are likely to appear onstage. Give we are perceived as replicating a system that let people down economically and politically, then we could very well lose again. The same people say, we've got to have somebody totally new, we've got to change the system. Well, guess what? Systems, worked pretty damn well, it's called the constitution and joining me now is the mayor of south bend, Indiana. Presidential candidate. Pete mayor footage. Welcome back Meath presser. Thank you. I wanna start with sort of the news of the moment that we're all dealing with as a country here. What's going on? In the Middle East. Do you believe the administration is provided enough proof that Iran was indeed behind these tanker attacks? Well, I think what we've seen is compelling. There seems to be more information that, that we haven't had a chance to see it's a little distressing to think that because this administration's credibility is so low in general. I think a lot of people are thinking twice at a moment win America's word should be decisive. When the US says this is something that has happened in this is the consensus of our administration that should be something that goes without question. But of course, that's just not the case in an administration that has been extremely unreliable in so many ways being said, this is not consistent with Iranian behavior that has been aggressive and often malignant in the region. The real question is, what can we do given the facts on the ground to ensure a measured response that will de-escalate rather than inflame tensions in the region. Well, what is that measured response that a president Buddha? Judge would do at this point. I mean. Let's I know you want to go back into the nuclear agreement, but the nuclear agreement did nothing about the belligerent behavior of Iran. So what would you be doing? Well, the first thing is we would be consulting and coordinating with our allies. I think everybody has an interest in the region becoming more stable. Let me pause you there, full our closest allies in the Middle East Saudi Arabia in Israel in particular. They seem to be in a different place on Ron than the United States. Well, our allies in the Middle East are going to be concerned, first and foremost with their own security. We need to make sure that we have tensions de escalate rather than escalate when it comes to what's going on there. But what we see out of the White House is something disturbingly reminiscent of the kind of accelerating drumbeat that got us into the war in Iraq worse. It's got some of the same cast of characters, I'm still mystified that John Bolton who was one of the architects of the Iraq conflict is set to be behind a lot of the administration's policy on Iran, as well. And it's not only allies in the region, but allies across the globe, who have an interest in stopping any pathway toward the Middle East becoming any more violent any more unstable than it already is. Do you take comfort at all? That President Trump appears to pay more dovish about this, then John Bolton. Well, the president has said that he does not want a conflict, of course. It's very difficult to take the president at his word anytime he says anything but to the extent. We believe him. The real question is, is a dynamic underway in the administration just as much as in the Middle East that could get out from the control of the president himself. I'm concerned about that, and it's one more reason why we need stable leadership in the United States and a stable, international community where our alliances are study. And our word is taken seriously at a minimum. Do you think it's at appropriate? Would it be appropriate if they ordered, if they had the US military essentially in the Gulf of Oman as another way, essentially as a police escort for these tankers? You think that's? Yes, it could certainly be appropriate for US to use our Seapower to make sure that their safety and freedom of passage in that part of the world. That's so vital to the world economy. You're obviously making a generational argument during this campaign being the youngest contender in this race certain. So the, the youngest top tier contender in this race. It's an obvious thing for you to do. Let me ask this question about Joe Biden, that you've been sort of ducking all week long. What can Joe Biden due to you to convince you that he's future oriented, I think everyone of us is running our own playbook. And I think a candidate of any age could speak about the future. But I think not every candidate is doing that. And the future can't just be kind of bumper sticker word, or some vague idea. We throw out there. I want us to be forming policies today that are gonna make sense in the twenty fifty s that we're going to be able to look back. Do you think somebody in their seventies, you think somebody in their seventy s can't? Can't have a good vision of what twenty fifty is going to look like in America. Of course, they can. But I think I have the best one in my plan is to go out and compete with it. That's a fair point. There. Let me ask you this about the president's comments having to do with accepting foreign interference. If somebody offered your campaign dirt on, on, on either President Trump or democratic candidate. What would you do with that dirt? You wouldn't do anything with that dirt. You would call the FBI. This isn't even even look at it complicated. Whichever look at you call you. Call the FBI look the moment that you look at it. You have implicated yourself. And I don't think you would want to do that. Look, some things are complicated in politics and ethics. This is not, and this is not directly either a foreign hostile foreign power, successfully attacked our democracy in the last election. And there's no indication that they're going to back off from trying to do it in the next election. That's why it's shocking to hear the president say what he said, then again, he specializes in shocking us so that we can talk about anything else. And I hope that, while we are forcefully responding to the outrageous suggestion that he would do something illegal in that situation. It's not making us less able to talk about our own agenda of making Americans lives better off of delivering better wages, better, living standards, healthcare, and all the other issues on which Americans trust the Democratic Party. He needs us. Talking about him so that we're not talking about voters because when we talk about voters, we win. We will call out his wrongdoing and then return rate to our message because that's what's gonna make for a better America all the way to the twenty fifty. You responded to a question about this idea of prosecuting a former President Trump possibly having a Justice department, look at the obstruction case and you've basically open to this idea that if that's what the Justice department says, then they should pursue it. How do you if you're elected president, one of the reasons you've got elected as you'd have convinced the country, it's time to change the channel? How do you change the channel and prosecute? The former president at the same time. America can do many things at the same time, but it's not the president's job to prosecute a foreign president changing the channel means focusing on how we can make people's lives better. And if in parallel, there are investigations going on into criminal behavior by people who were formerly at some of the highest levels in our government. So be it. That's how the Justice system works, but the most important principle here is the independence of the judiciary. The independence of the DOJ is obviously not something this president respects he's treated it like it ought to be his his own personal law firm. So this test for your attorney general, you would tell you attorney general look at it, if you want to, I'm not going to tell you, which way to come down on whether to prosecute the former president of the United States, prosecution decisions shouldn't be made by politicians in that sense. And what I will say is any attorney general, that I would appoint is somebody who will faithfully apply. The concept that no one is above the law that everybody ought to be. Held accountable, whether they're a former president or whether they are somebody who's never been anywhere near the, the halls of power. That's the whole point. It's the Justice is blind. And I will appoint an attorney general and for that matter, justices and judges who uphold that principle if there is final topic. I want to get to is your ability to win this democratic nomination in general, and if there is one whisper of, of you will that, that Democrats have about your candidacy, many are excited, but you hear the whisper, but I don't know can he get African American support? I want to read you a quote from the Reverend Rodrick read that the Indianapolis star interviewed he's a he's a pastor, the uplift church in Indianapolis. Here's what he sit I guarantee it's going to be an obstacle. This is about the fact that you're married to another, man. I guarantee it's going to be an obstacle for the candidate from south bend. That is really still a touchy subject specifically in, especially in the African American church. Now, I think it could be overcome. Because we are gradually getting to a point of, and I don't want to say except we are getting to a point of realizing this is the culture that we're going to have to begin to live with and adapt to it. I know you're trying to have these conversations with a lot of African Americans. How are they going? They're going well. And we are working very hard to engage people across the party, but especially black voters who expect you to demonstrate especially when you're new on the scene. What your values are, and how you're going to promote policies that lift them up? I also think we have a moment on our hands when we can do the exact opposite of what the president has done the president has used identity as a wedge used race as a wedge to divide people who have common interests. I think we have an opportunity to reach into our own distinctive identities. And use them to build bridges to reach out to people different from us knowing that anybody who has been on the short end of an equation of exclusion has away to sympathize with people who've had different experiences with exclusion in this country. And if we build a solidarity around that then people who have for whatever reason, fell's, a lack of belonging or felt exclusion or felt discrimination in this country, even though those patterns of. Crimen are very, very different when all of us come together, we win, and we are all better off. But I do want to follow up. I've talked to African American congressman who really liked you and want to support you where their their some of their more conservative religious minded constituents who vote straight ticket democrat, most of the time would have trouble voting for you. What do you say to those politicians in Washington, who want to get behind your candidacy, but are nervous about this? I'd invite them to look at what happened in south bend. I'm from socially conservative community when I came out, we didn't know what the effects would be. It was actually during an election year. Mike Pence was the governor of our state. He was popular at the time. And what happened was I won with eighty percent of the vote. What that tells you I think, is that people if you give them a chance, we'll evaluate you based on what you aim to do what the results are with the policies are, and I have every confidence that American voters, especially democratic. Voters will not discriminate when the opportunity comes up to choose the right leader for the future people that it is. I really appreciate you coming on sharing your views with us and stay safe on the trail. Thank you. All right. Thanks for coming on. When we come back. I'll talk to the house minority whip Republican Steve Scalise. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's employee of the month two months in a row. Leave a message at the hi Jamie. It's me, Jamie. I just had a new idea for our song about the name your price tool. So when it's like, tell us what you want to pay, and the trombone goes, blah, blah, blah, and you say, we'll help you find coverage options to fit your budget. 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Welcome back Republicans about themselves in a politically awkward position this week on the subject of election interference, you might think stopping foreigners from meddling would be an easy vote, but Senate majority leader Mitch McConnell blocked, a Bill that would require campaigns to report any attempted foreign interference to the FBI and an outside minority leader. Kevin McCarthy took pains to avoid criticizing President Trump's. I'd take it comment. So joining me now is the House Republican whip number two in the house, leadership and the Republicans side, Steve, Scalise of Louisiana whose book, by the way back in the game one gunman countless heroes and the fight for my life is now out in paperback confidence. Scalise, welcome back to meet the press certain. Nice to see you. Good morning, Chuck good. It be. Back with you. All right. Let me start with this election interference Bill. I know you voted against what House Democrats billed as HR one this large voting rights Bill, that they put together. But if they carved out the parts just on election security, there was an election security portion requiring paper, ballots, establishing better cyber security standards. Also would include I think what Mark Warner wants to see which is immediate reporting the FBI could you vote for that, Bill? Well, I had a lot of concerns with HR one, not the least of which were the first amendment violations. I mean you had everybody from the ACLU all the way to national right to life come together against that Bill because of what it did to limit, the, the free speech rights and religious freedom rights of millions of Americans. So that Bill is riddled with problems. It puts tens of billions of dollars of taxpayer money into political campaigns, something, I don't think most Americans wanna see their tax dollars used for a so that Bill had massive problems interesting that it was the very first Bill, Nancy Pelosi chose to move through the house was a Bill that far left, but it's been an example of how she's run the house, not address in real problems. But let's insecurity. So let's talk, I'm just asking about just this election security, this was not a small event. And this seems to be not unreasonable ideas here when it comes to the cybersecurity portion of this Bill, what Mark Warner's calling for could you support that? Well, there's a lot on cybersecurity. I think we can come to an agreement on. I'd like to see details on how she'd work with us on some of the things we've tried to get through congress in the past that are bipartisan dealing with cybersecurity because their concerns, not only for election security, but also on the corporate side, you've seen millions of Americans private data personal data stolen through attacks primarily from foreign state. Operators, whether it's Russia, China North Korea, or so many others, I wanted to there's a new store in the New York Times today, that highlights a more aggressive tack that the US government is doing now against Russia in planning potential, essentially forms of now wear into the Russian power grid taking a more offensive approach rather than just doing this on defense. Do you support that new policy? Look, you've got to take every step possible. First of all, the make sure what happened in two thousand sixteen with the Russians attempted to do to meddle with our elections. When Barack Obama was president doesn't happen again in twenty twenty or any other election. And so I'm glad that the administration has been taken aggressive actions, including if you saw the executive order the president issued a few over a year ago, lowering DOD to be more aggressive at making sure they can protect not only our grid, but go after anybody who's going to try to mess with our election security. It was interesting, though, I wanna point out, one, one little nugget in that story. Apparently the president was not fully briefed on this operation. I want to I want to show you one part of this New York Times story about that. It says Pentagon and intelligence officials described broad hesitation to go into detail with Mr. Trump about operations against Russia for concern over his reaction. And the possibility that he might counter mandate, or discuss it with foreign officials as he did in two thousand. Seventeen when he mentioned a sensitive operation in Syria to the Russian Foreign Minister, the president, obviously, was very upset about this story even getting in the public domain, as he tweeted about it last night. Do you believe that these officials made a mistake, not briefing, the president about this operation? Well, Chuck the president and the White House have already pushed back against a number of elements of the story. But the bottom line is the president's taking aggressive action against Russia. I wish that would have happened in two thousand sixteen when they were trying to meddle with our elections. But I think the message is being sent right now, if the Russians tried to take some action against our elections or any other country, we are already ready to go after them, and it should've happened in two thousand sixteen. I'm glad that the president's being aggressive against any foreign countries going to try to meddle with our elections, by the way, do you think that the Republican campaign harm of the house ought to pledge not to use any stolen can't stolen material hacked material? I know that there's been some attempts to get all both political parties to sign these pledges. There's been some hesitation on the house side. Well, I'm sure they'll look at that too. I think it's real interesting that the entire basis of the Muller report was information that the democrat party got from Russia. They solicited it using foreign spies of all people in use that to turn it over to the FBI. And then unfortunately, you had some people in the FBI with a political agenda against President Trump, who use that as the basis for an investigation to spy on then candidate President Trump. There are a lot of concerns, I think, in things that need to be rooted out within the FBI to make sure that doesn't happen again. Either. Let me turn to a Ron here, a minute, at what point do you think the president needs to go to congress to approve any sort of escalation with the Ron where, where where's your comfort level, on what you believe? He has the ability to do now and what he needs to come to congress for. Well, the White House has been briefing congress on what's happening in Iran, and how this has been building up. And of course, this does go back to the Iranian deal. That was a greed to in the previous administration and Donald Trump when he was a candidate expressed his real concerns with that deal, as so many of us in congress opposed, it back then, and even our allies. Like Israel oppose the Iran deal when it when it went through congress, you saw prime minister Netanyahu come to congress and give a very compelling speech against it back before it was agreed to so what President Trump's been doing to make sure that we're going to stand up to Russia. Our sanctions, by the way have been very effective. I think that's why you're seeing Iran take action. But this shows, you Chuck, do you really want a nuclear armed Iran. I think this is why the world, not just America. But our allies in the Middle East artistes earned about Iran, having a nuclear weapon, this is what they did without one, imagine if they had one do you think the president has the authority now due to the AM f from back in two thousand? To the, the authority now to, to conduct a military operation against Iran. Well, we don't wanna see it escalate to where it is a military operation, but you're seeing the president take action to make sure that we have protection against American interests in the Middle East, including in the straight there, where you saw this explosion, where the bomb was detonated. So the president is making sure that he's protecting American interests. I don't wanna see it escalate just, like I don't think anybody else does. But we have to stand up to Iran. This is one more example of why we need to be concerned about their actions before I let you go one thing about your book, you wrote about the issue of social media talking about the person that shot you his post dripping with scorn and hatred, toward the Republican party, and President Trump and the responses to his post field him even more, he was living a kind of double existence while quiet and unassuming in person he was angering confrontational online, a digital flame thrower combat. And when provided the anonymity of an online avatar, it's practically the same biography of the synagogue shooter on the right hand side of. Of the aisle. Same thing, the same idea, social media sort of taking over this, this man's life. How do you not violate the first amendment, and have these social media companies purged these folks before they commit violence? Well, Chuck what I've always said, is we can all our political disagreements. And you know that's what makes our country great. But when you cross the line and start inciting violence against other people that's where there's no place for that in politics in. So we saw in the case of the shooting in my in my case with the baseball field, shoot it as with others. You saw somebody trying to not only disagree with people politically, but then take it to that one step further where they took action and tried to take out in our case people because there are political police. Fortunately capitol police were there on the scene. Law enforcement made sure didn't happen and thank God, they were there and so many other heroes in miracles that I talked about in the book back in the game social media company. So can they get rid of these people before they commit violence? Or do you think that, that a violation of I memorize? Well, that's up to each of them. And you're seeing social media companies take action to try to stop people from inciting, violence, or in cases, even like the Florida shooting where they saw the kids say, I wanna be a school shooter in that gets turned over to law enforcement. And unfortunately they dropped the ball on that case they should have been able to follow through more. All right. Steve Scalise, the number two Republican on the house side. Thanks for coming on and sharing your views and tell you, you look as good as ever two years later. Nice to see you fill in great and happy, Father's Day, teach you happy Father's Day to you, sir. Thanks very much, when we come back election interference plus those Trump versus Biden polls that the president said didn't exist. Well, they do, and we've got the panel is next. 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Syndicated columnist George will whose latest book is the conservative sensibility, lean Cooper Pentagon, correspondent for the New York Times Daniel Plaka, the American Enterprise Institute, and Markley chief national correspondent for the New York Times magazine, Slocum everybody. I want to combine two thoughts here, George, we have election interference and what the president said at first, and then he backtracks it, but I'm gonna read juice, something James home in road on Friday, that also had to do with the hatchback decision by the president. President Trump's announcement this morning that he will not punish White House, counselor. Kellyanne Conway for repeatedly violating the hatch captures in miniature his apparent belief that the rules don't apply to him and his loyalists the way they do everyone else. It seemed to me that both of these stories are connected in that if he thinks it small and petty and has nothing to do with him or it helps him. Ignorant article two is remarkably spare in describing the duties of the president, and basically, they come down to taking care that the laws are faithfully executed. There's evidently, an asterisk over that says a hatchback doesn't apply. But with regard to the way it didn't the president just repeal it. If he doesn't act. He's repealed. It. Yes. It's called a presidents do this. They call this in forcement discretion. Yes. That they're, they're enforcing mechanisms are spreads them. Something like that. With regard to the election interference when speaker Pelosi says he doesn't know right from wrong. She's right to this extent. He's a complete amateur in American public life, and the rules and norms are mysterious to him besides he campaigned on the promise, we knew this promise was going to be kept it. He would continue to do what he did in the campaign, which was violated all existing norms. So no one should be be appalled, if you wish, but don't be surprised. That's the problem in Washington is that is that Donald Trump takes, what are I think norms and and runs with them? The hatch act is violated every single day in multiple ways. I mean, I spent ten years on the hill. I can't count the number of times. I saw senators their staff violating the hatch because. The strictures are rather inconvenient. You can't do political business from your Senate office, for example. So if you wanna call donor anything else, you've got to leave you're going to go elsewhere. And so, of course, it gets violated the problem with Trump is that he has taken, what is sort of a bandwidth, and just toss it all out and said and taken it and taking it to the logical end which is violating. The thing is, though, that norms are things that are essentially respected within a very, very small bubble, which is basically washing Thompson came to public life. Most people in America don't know what the hatch hatch act is. And they would it will not only boy, I don't know if they care or not. But they would say, well, wait, isn't it? Don't White House. Don't isn't Kellyanne Conway supposed to defend the president's supposed to attack his, there's a level of common sense that I think the president does align with that does win over a lot of his supporters, and yet he's chipping away at all these things, and there's the little ones, and the unintended consequence of all this. Could be come November that the losing side, no matter who it is doesn't believe the result. I think that's absolutely true. I think that I mean it's not just the hatchback is it's I cover the military. So I pay a lot of attention to, you know, Trump as commander in chief, and he has gone so far on the whole, you know. Violating this whole principle of not politicizing, the military that, you know, the whole thing with the US McCain back in, in, in Tokyo when he was in Yokosuka when he was visiting last month was was another example of this. And when you have this sort of thing repeatedly, I wonder what happens to us, you know, once once Trump is gone, what happens when you've taken, so many of these accepted norms and ways of, of doing of conducting ourselves in how does the next person. How you bring it back. I guess, maybe they will introduce more codified laws. Let me turn a little bit to the president's political prospects. He's launching his reelection campaign on Tuesday, those infamous Trump, Biden polls, while we got her hands on pretty much all of them, let me show you them and why the president didn't like that. They went public as much here is Virginia. Maine, Minnesota Michigan, as you can see if forties, the best he does in any of those states with Biden, and these are all just Biden Trump matchup. They tested everybody, but Biden was the strongest and look at Biden's numbers there. Now look at this North Carolina, Iowa Ohio, these were all three states that Trump carried, he's down eight in North Carolina seven in Iowa. Ohio just one I think that tells you a little bit more about where Ohio's headed there. We also had in Texas Trump was only up to in Georgia. Our source tells us if Biden is up six and he had double digit leads in Wisconsin, Pennsylvania, and Florida by the way, the camp, the campaign didn't dispute. The numbers campaign manager Brad par scale gave us this quote, all news about the president's polling is completely false. The president's new polling is extraordinarily and is never numbers have never been better. My colleague, Kristen Welker is now reporting right now. We breaking that apparently, the Trump campaign is going to be firing some pollsters, he leaving. They were behind this leak, George. These numbers aren't surprising to me. No. No shooting the messengers and surprising either. Yeah. In fact, they're worse numbers for him in the sense that in a dozen states that he carried in two thousand sixteen his disapproval over fifty percent. Those are states he carried. So if you have to bet your net worth on the next election bet on anybody. But Mr. Trump. Oh, wow. We'll just say after twenty sixteen I'm just not entirely sure that this soon in the game. We pay any attention to any of this. This is the president pays a lot of attention to this, which that is, what is sort of is. He can't never let them sh. He never wants to show weakness poll. He's flatlined is banned between forty two percent and forty six percent. That's not it's not early to say that now almost two years of this, that, that represents is floor under ceiling. Here's a bigger problem. It's not just that so the ballot tests, the job number and has personal rating or all aligning, usually a successful, reelected, president has one of those as an outlier in a positive way, either a winning personality, or they like the agenda. But don't like the person he doesn't have that. It's there's no choice. It's, it's do you like Donald Trump or don't you like Donald Trump and a generic democrat, he's gonna run against a real person. Well, this was against a real job. I think is a stand in for a generic democrat case, and he'll be he will represent that remark. Well, no, I mean look, he's, he's someone people know. Right. I mean he people know what they're getting with him. So he will be defined. But I mean look, if he goes against Elizabeth Warren against people to judge. It's a whole different dynamic in a race. It is, we'll say the president, I have I have a feeling they're going to release new poll numbers that show. Just him new winning winning winning winning. When we come back, Americans have never been more United on abortion and more divided at the same time when you see these new numbers. Next. The Starlight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. Let's go tickling the ivories. He just saved by bundling home and auto. Progressive gonna finally by a ring for that gal of yours. Hugo, send him. Oh condolences. This next one is freed. There's. In my. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Discounts on available in all states or situations. The Starlight lounge presents an evening with the progressive box. Let's you go tickling the ivories. He just saved by bundling home and auto. Progressive gonna finally by a ring for that gal of yours. Hugo, send condolences. There's there's. In my. Progressive casualty insurance company and affiliates. Discounts on available in all states or situations. Welcome back dated time. This week's new NBC news Wall Street Journal poll, so the highest percentage ever Americans think abortion should be legal all or most of the time. But we need into the responses it shows a larger trend that has major implications for both political parties. Overall, the number of Americans saying abortion, should be legal all or most of the time has climbed to fifty six percent that is actually up seven points since two thousand eight eleven years ago, and what's remarkable is the consistency. It's up amongst all groups, the percentage of men saying abortion, should be legal all or most of the time has climbed two points. Eight women climbed eleven points. It's also climbed thirteen points. Democrats even four points Republicans. But those numbers don't mean the country as made final decision on this issue. We noticed another trend in these polls. A hardening of us on both sides, this poll showed a record number of people who want abortions to be legal in all cases. But it also shows a big jump in the number of people one. On abortion to be illegal without exceptions legal in all cases at thirty four percent. That's free from last year and illegal without exceptions is at twelve percent. That's five points. Higher than March twenty eight. You can probably guess, what's driving this movement? The partisan divide shows up in the hardening of these use among core. Republicans, those that strongly backed the party twenty seven percent say abortion should be illegal with no exceptions. That's up nine points from eighteen percent in two thousand eighteen and among Democrats, fifty eight percent say they want abortion to always be legal that's up eight points from March of twenty eighteen yes overall, the movement is towards legality, not a way for. But underneath those numbers you see just another sign of the political reality in two thousand nineteen the middle ground has eroded and that might be because on the issue of Boertien, there's not a lot of appetite for middle ground. Anyway, when we come back Democrats running for president find a common target, and it's not President Trump, right? And here is one of the most popular pieces in the gallery, the duality of make double its show. Power, can you feel the cheese melted into the parties, creating synergy, capturing the essence of double? Yes. Okay. No. But I am hungry. Whatever your taste is. It's delicious. Get to classic McDonald burgers right now for just three dollars on the one two three dollar menu. Price and participation may vary. Cannot be combined with any other offer combo meal, single item at regular price. Right now. You can get both sprints unlimited plan and the all new Samsung. 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Joe Biden in, in the in the crosshairs. Now obviously the rest of the field is figured out. The Joe Biden's ahead. I mean it's natural political gravity. Right. You can't talk only about Donald Trump and frankly, Joe Biden makes it pretty easy foil. He is not Barack Obama. He's run quite unsuccessfully for president twice. I mean he was beloved but in kind of goofy, uncle kind of way and you do sort of wonder what I mean how you're gonna work as a contrast item generation Lii and as all three of those Democrats just said as someone who is is just the return to yesterday. And these are three Democrats under- the fifty five let me put up the debate matchups here for our big first round of debates night. One. The big name is Elizabeth Warren, but you also Amy klobuchar shar Cory Booker, in particular, their Rourke, people that six weeks ago. It said, this is the big night of the debate. Let's look at night, too, which is the Joe Biden night. Joe biden. Bernie Sanders, comma Harris Pete Buddha ginger one two three four. Let alone. Also, you're marrying Williamson's and Andrew. Gang there. George, will you look at those lineups Elizabeth Warren be happy that she's not that she gets a night, essentially as the front runner. I front runner of the of the debate, she's participating sure to not be on the stage with Biden, and she can assume that the other nine people were on the stage with Biden, we'll do their duty which is to treat him as opinion in somewhere and she stands above it, and they'll be lots of other debates down the road when she'll be next to him by then. He will be scarred. You know, it's really interesting Helene in our poll. We're showing Elizabeth Warren on the move. A little bit. I wanna show we've been testing. All of these candidates are Fouzy ask about the idea of this person running for president. This is just among democratic primary voters, we've been testing this all for the first six months, and he's, you can see here, Biden Sanders. Their enthusiasm numbers have dropped since March. Elizabeth warns enthusiasm number has gone up since March, in fact, more enthusiastic among democratic primary voters for her and the other. Two. That's that was really interesting seeing her jump over Bernie Sanders as well. But I think she has she still has a lot of room to move up. I think on the Biden issue is just it's, it's to me, it feels just really obvious. These guys are all going after Biden, because he's the guy to beat is not at this point, you know, there's a, there's a reason while he why he has soom this front runner status so listening to boot a judge, and listening to beta Arar work as they're taking on Joe Biden. There's a lot of concern, and they feel that this is who they're going to have to defeat in order to, to, to win the nomination like this. No. You know why? Because the Republican the Republican party in the in the run up to the last election was just such an awful spectacle watching one person after another go after each other in this circular firing squad. So I actually feel a little bad for poor old, Joe Biden, and of course, Joe Biden is old, but so is Bernie Sanders. And by the way. Elizabeth Warren, by the way, the same age is Hillary Clinton states can be double edged sword. It can be, but you know what, what we're going to watch for the next year and a half is the Democrats going after their number one person in the poll, so Elizabeth Warren, they're coming for you. Yeah. Doesn't matter how many of the Democrats attack Biden as long as Trump keeps attacking by. He can be happy nineteen sixty six Nixon's campaigning around the country for leaders that gets under Lyndon Johnson skin Lyndon Johnson denounces him as a chronic campaigner, making him the focus of all the Republicans. And he went on to be elected. Well, that is something that is interesting here Mark Leibovich. The Trump campaign has been trying to get the president to directors tweets at people other than Biden, go after Warren again, and he's kind of go after Bernie, do something to make the Democrats have to own the farther left candidates, rather than by I think that that's right. We'll look Donald Trump looks at polls, we know that. Oh, yes. The polls now he's very present focus, right? He sees these polls, and he sees Biden against him. So he's going to focus on Joe Biden. I don't think the president of real, I mean, I think the president is, I think, frankly struggling on how to define Joe Biden. Joe Joe Biden is chain. Known entity certainly in America and the Democratic Party and Donald Trump has an easier time just talking about people who are out in the public sphere is he's been he's not gonna second. I don't know why his campaign second guessing him so much. This is the one thing that he actually has shown seems to have a little bit of gut instinct has a good feel for it, right? So he's got after by now. It'd be after whoever's next when the time comes it is interesting how he's very dismissive of comma Harris and compete booted your right now. And I don't understand why he's being that dismissive right now of both of them knows Joe Biden, because he's used to going after he hasn't been able to come up with a good enough name. I mean, the Alfred Newman, one didn't work peach, put a judge sort of. Raced it. So that didn't really work for him. Sleepy Joe hasn't really necessarily worth that will that will either, but he's more comfortable going after the people come Harris, I think will definitely be problematic for him because that's that, that one where he's going to have to really temper, his, his natural sort of sexist tendencies. That's my curiosity joy, I think he doesn't know yet both the you're right about commerce, but I think the same thing with Bhutto. He they have not figured out how to go after this guy. Sleepy. I'm one of leap president. No, I think that's right. I think that he's uneasy when he cannot pigeonhole somebody. You know, the other thing about Elizabeth Warren, I mean, just to sort of not talk about this much of a horse race is one of the reasons she's doing better as people say that she's actually running very good campaign. I mean these are these are. Yesterday a plan for that. And people like applauded people are noticing. She's playing a little tortoise here. That seems to be working guys. Thank you very much. That's all we have for today. Thank you for watching happy, Father's Day. All you dads out there. Remember we'll be back next week because if it's Sunday, it's meet the press. Hi, it's Jamie, progressive's number one number two employee. Leave a message at the hey Jamie. 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Suspect Arrested in Connection to Package Bomb Mailings

The Point with Chris Cillizza

05:41 min | 2 years ago

Suspect Arrested in Connection to Package Bomb Mailings

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of Ford -able eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five. No ridiculous markups. No hassles. Just quality affordable. I wear delivered right to you visits. Any today at Xeni dot com slash CNN. Welcome to the point for Friday, October twenty six twenty eighteen I'm Brooke brower, managing editor for CNN politics. Philly in for Chris who's out today and cutting through the political spin to bring you the news, you need to know, many developments is Friday, and they mail bomb story. The biggest news is that. He suspect was arrested. The man's name is Cesar Siamak, he is fifty six. He has an, Azure, Florida address. He has ties to New York and a criminal history are CNN team. Evan Perez, Mark rallies. Shimon Peres, Brynn Gingras and others. They report the DNA found on at least one of the packages as well. As sciatic cellphone helped investigators identifying multiple law enforcement officials said he was not previously known to secret service. They said but Florida records show string of arrest. Any back to the early nineteen nineties that included a two thousand to arrest by Miami police for an offense described and online wreck. Words as a quote threat to bomb and threatened to discharge destructive device event in plantation Florida was towed away to Miramar Florida. That's where an FBI field offices located along forcement official said the outside of the white van features images of President Trump vice president Pence, there's also a CNN sucks sticker on the side of the van earlier. Friday, authorities intercepted suspicious packages intended for New Jersey, Senator Corey Booker, former director of national intelligence, James Clapper. There was also a suspicious package in Sacramento addressed to California Democratic Senator comma Harris, according to a law enforcement official and a little later, we learned one for major democratic donor. Tom star Booker Clapper Harrison style part of a group of targets that included former President Obama for vice president Biden democratic donor. George Soros, actor Robert deniro, former attorney general holder Hillary Clinton. Even the former secretary of state and former CI director John Brennan, President Trump was brief Friday with the latest by his chief staff John Kelly, the president's spoke at a mid day event for young black leaders at the White House. He said in part, quote, these terrorizing acts are despicable and have no place in our country before Friday's developments all unfolded, Krista. Very thought provoking piece of analysis posted on CNN politics that a highly recommend you read the headline. This is the logical conclusion of our poisonous political environment. I can't read the whole thing here, of course. But here's a little bit. He kicks off with this quote. It's easy amid the nearly hourly revelations of new mail bombs being sent to prominent Democrats and others who have been heavily criticized by President Trump to lose sight of the big picture here. We're dealing with an act of political terrorism. The breadth of which we haven't seen in a very long time. Chris goes on to say that quote, while this is the broadest act of obvious political terrorism we've seen since at least the two thousand one. Anthrax attacks when politicians and members of the media received envelopes filled with bacteria five people died and seventeen were injured. During those decks is not the only incident in recent years, Chris notes, the shooting attack on members of congress at a baseball practice that nearly killed Louisiana. Republican congressman Steve Scalise in two thousand seventeen the man who showed up at a DC restaurant in two thousand sixteen with a rifle because of the pizza gay conspiracy theory is another example, the death of a counter protester in Charlottesville Virginia just last year at the white nationalist March. Chris says, quote, no matter who you blame if you blame anyone for these acts and the clear increase in them it's impossible to separate them from the political climate in which they are committed is beyond bait that we not only live in a time of remarkable political polarization that we also have increasingly come to regard those who disagree with us. Not just wrong or dumb, but evil Chris has a lot more to say in that piece. Do check it out right away. If you haven't ready had along with the rest of our breaking news. Covers in analysis of all the latest on this developing story, and that's the point for Friday, October twenty six twenty eighteen thanks for listening. 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