10 Episode results for "Savoy Brown"
FOGHAT 50th Anniversary Interview with Drummer Roger Earl
"Welcome to your online coffee break where we discussed. Bite-size topics that inspires educates and entertains. Here's your host a software innovator award winning marketer and astronomy and space bus stuck fields. Hello thanks for joining me today for your online coffee break today. I'm pleased at my special guest. Roger earl of fog at roger is the drummer and a founding member of the band formed in nineteen seventy one and has achieved eight gold records one platinum and one double pot record. Their amazing hits include slow ride full for the city and stone blue. They just released eight days on the road. A live album celebrating their fiftieth anniversary. Roger joins me today to discuss his amazing music journey including fog hats. Latest music online. Coffee break well. Hello roger good morning. How are you sir. good. He's a beautiful moaning. Sounds going down. That's okay. i heard something very interesting about you. That i had no idea. I hear you like to fish fish. Therefore i am exactly. I happen to be calling you from what's called the bass capital of the world. They call it down here as its crescent city florida but we call themselves the bass capital of the world. So i just thought that's so cool. Yeah i i do fishing. I'll buy fish. I fish for fish. Being fish sometimes wonder out down rivers. Sometimes i just out in the boat and put junk a hearing on and have a gossip line and a sandwich. that sounds awesome. Deterent flies at all. I think is quite as nimble as they used to be. I understand and my eyesight is certainly not as good as i am. Totally with you on that. I just bayton hook. These days is getting rougher. Picking out that. I stabbed myself with blood is another ingredient to track more fish right. I think i always bet seek. She is old by. That took the patients of i was going to say your your dad influence you a lot because i was going to go back now and just talk about how you got into music. And here's your dad. I guess music rank kind of ran. The family i understood. He intrigued some jerry. Lewis with some great balls of fire and kind of get you fired up can tell us how that happened. Zip eleven or twelve. And i came home from school. Used to ride bike and my father used to work at estimates belton. Bits near london apple and he would bring 'cause hum estimates is in the late fifties early sixties and Late fifties. actually any. He would rub test them. He would be a panel vide- the doors and the panels and he would take him out. Tested any rattles and squeaks. That you'll rach will back then So anyway one lunchtime. He played the piano as well that he said to me. You have listened to this boy sounding radi by joanna that's term for piano many on jerry. Lewis is it might be i. Think he's great boozer five. But i remember the b. side was may mama blues the dead new a good piano bambini had and jerry lee came over. This is nineteen sixty sixty one and he took me to see him in the in south west london. Who my mother said he was. Never the shine off to that. I ride my older brother. Cullen vice piano. I comply slow blues in the kissy. But that's about it. What would what to plan the drums themselves. Actually jerry lee had his own drummer on that. First to the drums took me. I started playing drums around that time. When i was twelve. I said to my dad. As i woke up the school when i worked in a bakery Saturday mornings. I said that data only amounted by and he said well no. We're gonna help you with that. Some said you had one. They had peaches have data motorbike inside cons. So i said well i wanna get a drum kit. You said on somebody who teaches drums so introduce me to is Is nine critize actually. It was the same trump teacher the the drummer from the kinks had. Wow yeah interesting. Yeah actually you to a number of pretty famous dramas. I think Visit jazz drama. He he played with. The number of american musicians will come over to england Be paid off script discern whole bunch of really cool people really nice guy and it's i think taking music lessons stops you from getting into any bad habits with playing but you know when you but when i was i figured i knew most to most fifteen year olds too when you're fifteen. Actually at that job. Is that how you saved up for your address. What i would like to saturday mornings a bike when i was twelve on what three nights a week off to school delivering Letter heading note paper and stuff You know we wouldn't rich in the family by any stretch. That book seven days a week we had chickens in the backyard. Grown vegetables granddad My grandfather grow vegetables as well. After the war everything was There was rationing so It was but it was funny. Not apply dumbbell buildings final. Another was cool too. Because i mean you weren't that much older when you joined the band. Savoy brown clinton rock at age. Twenty a how that how that come. I love how you didn't get paid for a while to. Can you share that story. Actually a pride for the job festival by sale from the i was in a band. The two friends from school Diovan ray dorset and for some reason. We couldn't get much work. It was a time when people wanted to horn sections or whatever that we were three base and so we tried to. I tried out for the job for savoy brown Didn't get it the first time. But they caught me back about a month later. Borrow dench car ariza pob in south west london fantasy. I think someone like that i to the drums and got up. Says i think for like two tune off ninety three hours with him backing out the drums and they said Guide to work good job and they should. We call gig in birmingham tonight so that was nice after we working like three four times a week. So you know it'd be kinda new cost or birmingham or somewhere and you know it'd be getting back about six o'clock in the morning and have to go to work. the cat dragged. I was in commercial isis. After about two weeks. I hadn't been paid. We done about shows the manage. A harry He was with the same agency that my band was. So i knew who he was and said harry haven't got paid yet. He was welsh. Not that's the problem. So is jerry lewis. Now he's fabulous but you haven't got paid yet boil. What will see above that. Then so obviously i didn't get About now a couple of weeks went by so down about sixteen twenty days so far and a went up. See how. I haven't got paid yet. He said you go paid yet. Boyle who did. This went on for months typical musician. Yeah we right because you bring food. Anyway i said harry you know it's been about six weeks now and now go wife and kid came in my day. Job is in jeopardy page of oil. We see about that then. I honestly don't think. I got paid the previous six or seven weeks worth of money. But i didn't care. I love by being. I go pilot after that. Twelve pounds fifty. I had to quit my job because it was. They were really cool. People they understood where my passion lie and they put out with million so handy mine not david months notice and after that I gave up one hundred and fifty pounds a week or more of a bunch of predawn but for twelve fifty so i took a huge in pi. Yeah us happy end was a professional musician. Nothing curb appeal. I was gonna ask you. When are you know. And it was just funny. 'cause he pursue your passion and oh i mean you just hung in there because a lot of people wouldn't go six weeks without getting paid. That's sure it was a great band. The pliers rule great Kim simmons is great. You top by some diet. Nicole's we had a couple of different vice plaza. The time to tell. Stevens arrived. But chris boden. The lead singer was the one who really move me as a as a singer. He had a credible voice And he was writing original songs whereas most other english or blues bands like copying aroma. That you know chicago blues bands or whatever. Chris was writing original material. And kim simmons of cousteau's great gets off and on and We started having a degree of success and then became to the states. That was interesting. In england had designed taking coast newcastle. New coffees whether dig up coal so coming to the states with the blues band. It was relied okay. The estate america is the home of music. As far as i'm concerned gaz bruise country wisdom gospel. this is when music was born. the rest of the world. Listen to it and took it and turned into something else. But this is the home of music and i always. I always wanted to come. In fact i think when i was about eight or nine. I had this idea that i was going to run away and style on a boat that my older brother who's four years older than me would go along with that for a while and said to question. I'm going to run away. I'm gonna. I'm gonna get on a boat and go to america's that'd be stupid. Thank you brother now roger. I can't believe it but it's been fifty years so so right after that you form fog hat. My gosh nineteen seventy-one did tell some of our listeners. About about you coming on and a lot of them wanted to know where the name fog had come from you. Mind to tell us about about that. They may have some wine. I'll try to be but i see lines. Divert came up with the name scrabble game with his brother john when he was a teenager. I think probably thirty no full chain and he He made up the word for cat and of course he's brother said that's not a word and sibling rivalries as it will bay came. Would in fact. We didn't actually decide on the name for the band until we actually going into london to look at the art for the first album and we're gonna come wrestles. It seemed to work ethic. It works really well one song. Of course you know slow ride. I thought southern was really funny. Because i think what was it Guitar hero when that game came out and people got to play along I remember me and you know millions of other people. We finally got to play along with you which was Yeah what are you doing. No it's ended up. I'll tell you what was asked. I will say that. I was going back to the guitar hero when they had slow ride. That came out and we all got to play along. Did that like bring a new audience. Because it's just amazing. It was a great call to to feature your guy. Song in guitar. Hero was amazing. I remember that It was really cool. We'd have six seven eight year olds kids coming to shows their plastic. Utah's yeah. I thought it was. It was fantastic Even to this day we get we have A lot younger folks coming to save. I guess we got it right in the first vice but yet that might that might be different sexually. It actually wasn't playing on guitar hero. But i think the good facsimile guitar sounded pretty good. Drums won't quite right. You would know right It was terrific in. I remember the time it was another band. That had that record on there and they were upset and they want you to sue guitar hero. Because they didn't want their record on their. You come paid that kind of publicity awesome. Yeah i mean we've been in a number of films a number of Commercials in south. I'm i'm finding that you know. Get people get to hear music. Whatever way they. In fact. Last night i turned on the tv guide through the channel was looking for a movie dazed and confused was just running the credits at it had slow ride and so rai despite i'd never seen the credits on this movie played so ride throughout the whole credit light nearly eight minutes to sunrise. That is awesome. What i loved to is you guys are still coming out with some great songs. You just released to celebrate your fiftieth anniversary new song. Eight days on the road awesome. Fourteen trite live performance It's got a great songs. Of course it has slow ride. It's got stone blue to love full for the city. Of course Even play that funky music. Which i thought was really cool to have on there and then row row fever now. Speaking of rhode rhode fevers on there. I know being on the road. It's got to be such a mixed blessing. What would you like most or least about being on the road. So much united stock. Hurry up when white that hour and a half that we do is It's quite The rest is traveling sitting on planes on trains in 'cause We get paid for travelling typical musicians. We play for you anyway I love it in some reasonable sing. was assigned. He and i will like We just been on the road playing a life but some you know some of the musicians that we've played that via struggle with being out there. I i love it You know. I still get chillers before you go out on stage. You and the lights go down. The music comes up Wow i get yours. It's i'm while. I was fortunate. A few in this guest a decent living. Doing what i love doing. 'cause you fall you're passionate. You're so good at it. And what i hear heard is that you may be also working on another blues. Rock studio album coming out. Maybe next year is that true. Yeah we went down to the covy Nightmare put a dent in everything. I know he's gonna lost his own. Did but we kept in touch with everybody. Could everybody wants a month or whatever. It was strange no seeing everybody for whatever year and a half so when we did eventually get together a couple of months. Three months ago it was it was good. We we played the first We have a studio in florida. We play for about four hours. Calluses were quite there. We had a show coming up about ten days prior to that so we had to get our fingers hands and feet and heads in It was Obsolete did out. I rely so everybody sat around and had some libations and hung out. Go to now each other again yet. Everybody in the band that we like we hang out together with reprints of we get along real well Everybody's a real professional charlie. Hyun lead singer is great grandchild. Apply course alaedin side playa as played He makes his records and produces everything. So it's yes. Good roger great and i'm just thinking out there I know we're running out of time here but one last question for you obviously you. You're inspired a lot of people. Fog had to us but you to as a drummer. So what advice. We offered any aspiring drummers out. There can't diet you I when i first started. I played anybody and everybody. I would look in the local paper. The who music magazines. And i wasn't very good when i started and just play with anybody and everybody. I've been fortunate i always played. I think we've really apply us. And i think that helped raise you game. I mean as far as band doesn't have a really good drama. The not going to be a good bed. I mean you can get by with a few other things in some but To stunned follow your passion but playing with anybody and everybody Practice practice practice That and that's another thing i mean. It's okay price tonight. You know getting new jobs together and stuff but I i personally love blind in the band. I band and he bent You know that's if i'm playing with other people in a drum. I mean you know i need a long time ago. I was never guide to approach the levels of people buddy rich I have a patriarch. There it's Make playing music is is a passion and i still get thrown out of it. It's it's a mikey music is. It's not like before when we make a ton of money or had done in being created is to keep the creative juices guy in have a studio. It's not like it used to be is like we had a studio up here in new york. I mean we had a need bold second hand. It was three quarters of a million dollars. I mean you can push through the together so as you have some bright people with you of nfl. Three volt by ten thousand dollars. Just the microphones expensive but follow your passions and play with anybody and everybody in keeping a band together is not easy. You've done it for fifty years four or five very strong personalities you have to sort of. It's a learning experience. Now i love what the number of fortune roger definitely shows. I just want to thank you again for for joining me today. Love in the new release of eight days on the road when encourage all our listeners to go download it now and thank you so much for taking time out of your schedule. Join us really appreciate it. It was a pleasure. Thank you online coffee break. Why really joma conversation with roger today. And i'm loving the new live album eight days on the road highly encouraged to download that today. It's amazing compilation of this great songs. Anyway i wanna thank you for joining today. If you'd like to learn more about them just go to their website at all hat dot com but to thank you for visiting us and listens episode as well. We really do appreciate it again. If you could share this episode of the friend we would appreciate that too. Thanks so much for joining us. We'll see you next time.
Foghat - "Honey Hush"
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Zach of decibel geek and of course yours truly the rock and roll archaeologist podcasting and rock and roll could be better summer fun friday august six to sunday. August eighth nashville. It's all happening. I hear the sound of electric guitars in the air in must be time for another episode of the. I'm in love with that song. Podcast here on the pantheon. Podcast network my name. Brad page and each episode of this podcast. I pick a personal favorite song of mine and we delve into it looking at the history the people and performances that went into making a great song. You know. i'm beginning to think that the band fog hat is the rodney dangerfield of rock and roll. Destroy my life. No respect no respect. Whenever i see a reference to fog hat. It's always preceded with phrases like ham fisted neanderthal lowbrow. Like they're a guilty pleasure. Well let me tell you. I got nothing but respect for this band. No guilt at all just pure pleasure. So let's spend some time with fog hat and a song called honey. Hush today story begins with a band called savoy brown. Several brown was founded in nineteen sixty five by a great guitarist named kim simmons. They were one of many great british bands playing the blues. That came out of the nineteen sixties. At some point. We should revisit savoie brown for this show. But before i digress. This band had an ever changing lineup. Many players that came and went by around nineteen. Seventy seventy one. Besides kim simmons. The band included roger earl on drums tony stevens on bass and dave pavitt. Who went by the name lonesome dave on rhythm guitar and vocals before nineteen. Seventy-one was over. P- everett earl and steven's all left savoy brown together to form their own band. They recruited a relatively unknown guitarist named rod price. Price was a great all guitar player but he was a master when it came to slide guitar and his distinctive brilliant slide playing along with lonesome dave's voice were defining elements of this new band sound. They call themselves fog hat. Why your guess is as good as mine. The name doesn't mean anything. The band signed a deal with bears ville records and moved to the us they released their self titled debut record in nineteen seventy two. They recorded three more albums before tony. Stevens quit exhausted. From the nonstop touring when they recorded their fifth album fool for the city. They're producer nick. Jameson filled in on bass. This album's probably their most famous record. Features title cut and their biggest hit. Slow ride before that tour. They recruited a new full-time bass player. Craig mcgregor and then recorded their next album. Nightshift by then it was nineteen seventy seven and in the wake of frampton comes alive and kiss alive. Everybody was due to release their obligatory live album and so we got fog hat. Live unlike most live albums of the era. fuck out. Live is a single l. p. a concise set of six tracks the present the best aspects of band capturing them at their peak. It has everything you want from classic. Live album a great set list. A band playing at their best and it captures the energy of terrific. Live show now back in the seventies and eighties. We used to have this department store chain around new england called leach. Mir's they were a step up from a kmart or walmart kind kinda like what target is today. They're all gone now. They went out of business in nineteen ninety seven. But i was there one day. My parents were probably shopping. Somewhere else in the store and i was on my own in the records and tapes section i was i dunno thirteen or fourteen years old. There was always some music playing in the background so that they could sell you. The new releases are entice you into buying a new stereo system and whatever kid was working behind the counter that day put on this album and this was the first time i ever heard fog hat blasting out of the speakers in the middle of this suburban department store. The song had barely ended before the manager came over and told the kid to change the record. Something less noisy something. That wouldn't drive granny out of the store ecorse to my teenage years. This was exactly what i wanted to hear. I had no idea who that band was. What the name of the song was. Or what i meant was from but i had to find out from a distance. I watched the kid put the album back in the sleeve. I couldn't make up the name of the band but the album cover was unforgettable. A black cover with the big word live. Cut out so that you could see them. Multicolored ban photograph underneath still to this day. It's one of my all time. Favorite record covers in fact its hanging on my wall right now. So imagine if you will being thirteen years old flipping through the record bands and hearing. This turned way up for the first time two guitars bass and drums no sneaky overdubbed. It doesn't get any more rock and roll to this. Dave everett's guitar is more prominent in the left channel. And that's rod prices guitar dominating on the right and here comes the main riff. Now wait a minute. Wait a minute heaven. I heard that riff somewhere before. Best friend that of course is aerosmith with train. Kept a roland. But aerosmith didn't come up with that. They learned it from the yardbirds. The yardbirds recorded train kept the role in nineteen sixty five in memphis tennessee with the legendary sam phillips by the mixing desk their version features jeff beck on guitar but the yardbirds didn't write train kept a role in either and for that matter. Fog hat didn't right honey. Hush they're both cover songs tripped. A rolling was first recorded by tiny bradshaw in nineteen fifty one honey. Hush was written by big joe. Turner and nineteen fifty three. Let's have a listen to both of these original tracks to see where it all started. I here's tiny bradshaw's version of train kept a rolling green again long long. Then be you way with he and an i. death good land or go chain. can't roll in five. Nine camp role in in kim deal go. Well that's great but it doesn't have that guitar. Riff that such a big part of the aerosmith in the yard bird versions. Let's check out. Honey hush by big joe turner. Yeah the old that guitar. Riff isn't here either. So where did that guitarist come from. When did it. I enter the picture for that. We have to go to nineteen fifty six to find the rock and roll. Trio the rock and roll trio. Were two brothers. Johnny and dorsey burnette and paul burleson one of the earliest guitar heroes in october. Nineteen fifty six. The rock and roll trio released their third single with train kept rolling on the a side and honey hush as the b side. Here's their seminal. Version of train kept a rohan tweet. Tweet explain been now. Let's flip the single over and listen to the b side. Honey hush off the used the same guitar riff on both songs. So there you have it. Fog hat didn't rip off aerosmith. Aerosmith didn't copy fog hat. It all goes back to that one record by the rock and roll trio mystery solved now back to the fog hat version. Here's the first i. Let's bring up the drums here. This is faster than some ramones songs. Let's listen to those twin guitar. Parts rod price takes a solo love that wa wa pedal noticed. There's only one guitar during the verses. Lonesome dave stops playing to focus on his vocals. Both guitars hit this note together. Let's listen to rod prices guitar craig. Mcgregor gets in some bass licks. The twin guitars return for a short bit and rod. Price takes flight again. Listen to how he injects drama by repeating this four note ascending lick. I love this little section here. Now dave everett gets to play a solo. He's doing scat vocals. Along with his guitar. And the intro. Riff returns for the ending honey. Hush by fog hat fog had recorded a lot of old blues songs and unlike some bands they always gave the original blues artists proper credit and nineteen seventy seven. Fog hat hosted a benefit concert in new york featuring muddy waters. Eighty kirkland otis. Blackwell lee hooker all their heroes and they all got paid except fog hat who donated their share to the new york public library so that the library could afford to beef up their collection of blues albums. This is a ban that deserves a lot more respect than they get lonesome. Dave pavarotti died from complications from kidney cancer. In february two thousand. He was only fifty six guitarist. Rod price eventually settled in windham new hampshire not far from where i lived. He was only fifty seven when he died after he had a heart attack and fell down a flight of stairs. Craig mcgregor the bass player died in february twenty eighteen from lung cancer drummer. Roger is still alive today. As i record this episode and still plays the occasional show as always. Thank you for listening. You can find all of our past episodes on our website. Love that song. podcast dot com. You can keep in touch with us on facebook. Just search for the. I'm in love with that song. Podcast and i highly recommend you subscribe to the show that way. You'll never miss an episode. This show is just one of many great podcasts. On the pantheon podcast network. If you love music there's plenty of great shows to be found on the pantheon network. That's it for this episode. We will meet again in two weeks for the next installment of the. I'm in love with that song. Podcast until then. Here's fog hat live are you.
The Flame Podcast Musical with Creators Ellie Brigida and Leigh Holmes Foster
"In this past year as most actors and artists were forced to stay at home we found new ways to keep creating the most obvious is the explosion of zoom readings and productions have both new and existing works others discovered this medium of podcasting and in just one year the number of podcasts. From one million to more than two million podcast but in today's episode in honor of pride month. I'm talking with two women who set out to explore a relatively new art form. The podcast musical. Hello i'm patrick. Oliver jones actor singer and host of one of feed spots top twenty. Five theatre podcast. Here i talk with fellow creatives about the realities of a career in the performing arts. This is why. I'll never make welcome back to another episode. I am so grateful to have you here. That website is why. I'll never make it dot com there. You can sign up for the monthly win me newsletter as well as find out how you can support this podcast and get members only episodes all that and more at weill never make it dot com Every year one of the biggest podcast conferences is called podcast movement. And in just a couple of months. I'll be heading to nashville for this year's conference but last year like so. Many gatherings podcasts movement was a virtual conference and it was there that my husband connected with two female podcasters who were fundraising for a new original musical. With his help and a lot of hard work they met their financial goal. And this summer the flame podcast is debuting on the broadway podcast network. Which happens to be network. I was hoping this podcast. Could one day be apart of. But that's a while. Never make it story for another day. In the meantime. I am so excited to have the female. Duo elliott bridge up and lee homes foster with me today. They are the creative force behind the flame. Musical my name is ellie brigitta. I play jamie who has our lead in the flame. I also am the music arranger and co creator of the flame. My day job is a very difficult question. I am a. I'm a freelance musician. So i teach. I work on our podcast. Let's hang out. And i also sing in a wedding band. Hi my name's lee homes foster. I play heather in the show. Who is jamie's best friend and works at the bar with her. And i also am the composer for the flame and my day job is. I am a scientific account manager for a biotech software company. These two ladies have interesting day. Jobs that. I'll certainly be asking them more about that. But most of our conversation will be talking about the flame. It's themes and messages what socially distant recording is like and the hurdles they faced in bringing their show to life but before we get going. Here's lee with a brief synopsis of their musical. The show centers on jamie as as you mentioned who are lee jamie is runs a queer bar and we find out in the first episode that they are evicted from their space courtesy of the daughter of the man who owned the building who has just passed away recently despite sparks flying between them they are now stuck in this situation where one of them is kicking the other out of. they're very very happy. Gay space and we try to navigate that so it is very rahm commie. We are very upfront that it has a happy ending because we think especially for people that is important to know going into the story of navigating through each of their personal stories around this bar and what it means to both of them. In addition to lee and elliot the whole cast of the flame is amazing as well led by the wonderfully talented. Jin colella from the hit broadway. Musical come from away. Also jasmine savoy brown from the hbo drama series the leftovers and selena kennedy from the band's visit and beautiful also star in this podcast musical and at the end of the episode. I'll be playing one of the songs from the first episode of the flame sung by jenn colella. So please stick around for that. Our will ellie and leave. It is so great to have you both here. I'm really excited about our conversation. Today we are to thank you so much for having us. so what was that instigated. The two of you working together and creating the flame the musical leeann. I have actually been working together for four years already before we created the flame. Our initial was at a women's acappella festival in san francisco so we both bonded over our love of music and our love of all things lesbian and so he decided we were going to start a podcast called. Hang out and we've been doing that for four years and then it's sort of morphed into hey we like talking about these things but we also love music. Let's write some songs. And when i say let's write some songs i mean i said hey. Do you want to write a and lee just took the challenge on and as really like become an incredible composer after four years of just like working on silly songs for our podcast we decided. Hey let's write a full length musical and we're here. why not. Yeah why not and so. How has this writing process been different. You know because obviously most musicals are staged productions but this is geared toward a podcast. So were there different different writing process for that. Yes yes certainly for us As only mentioned. I mean we've been doing the music we do for the podcast is. It's just the two of us we write songs for that. That are based on queer. Movies films shows you know pairings on shows things like that and it's usually just the two of us doing duet elliott will do the whole arranging and producing still but it's typically you know either instruments that she plays or midi instruments and we just kind of make you know. Make songs to include in the podcast. This obviously is a whole different beast or writing for an entire cast. non sambol. La's ben recording an entire pit orchestra for us this entire year. One to like. Oh have like one person at a time to build this pit orchestra for all year. We like to show a picture of her friend allen and say he's our string section because you know he'll record. I mean so many tracks for each song on multiple instruments. It's been wildly different than anything. We've we've done up until now. I bet i bet. And so were any of these characters or storylines that you've written nerve any of them taken from personal experiences. That's a very good question. I do feel like leeann. I wrote the story because he wanted to have this rom com. I do feel like some of the characters as we started to write them have turned into people that we know. Like wolfer me. I personally actually relate to the character that i'm playing a lot jamie but there's also this character joe who's played jenn colella and she's one of my favorite characters in the entire show but she reminds me of so many people you see. She's the bar regular. Who's at the bar. She's always the life of the party. She's definitely inspired by that. Like larger than life friends. That you have like is chaotic. Is crazy is fun but has a heart of gold. So i feel like there's a lot of people that i know personally who reminded me of joe and i think joe will resonate with a lot of people because of that. Yeah and i think also just in a general sense like a a more overarching sense. The story itself is not based on specific experience. But i think is just based on the experience of as queer people watching queer bars and especially lesbian bars. Just sort of continue to dwindle Across the country That that as a story it was why we decided you know when we first sat down and said what do we want to. What do we want to write a musical about That that's what we landed on because it just felt like it's real it's relevant it's important And so that was something that we just wanted to. You know wanted to tell a story about yes. So let's talk about the casting. I mean you have some wonderful talent in the show and you had mentioned genyk lilla tony award nominee for come from away now. Did that add extra pressure or nervousness in creating the show very nervous. What never jan angelina came on board pretty early in this whole process and actually came on board before i'd finished writing most of the songs for either of them so You know as a budding composer is that the right term. I constantly tellingly. She needs to own her. Like i knew you're an up and coming composer. Blossoming wasserman composer. So yeah i mean you know. Suddenly being handed like these voices and that level of talent. I had a number of weeks of just like. Oh that's this is her. It's okay this is fine. This is okay. This is great. This is fine Just sort of on a loop just a little nerve wrapping. Yeah that's definitely. I can agree with lee sentiment. I mean we're also you know we're recording all of this on zoom as well so it's very like virtual but also intimate so we're doing like a vocal session. Just with jen in her apartment like where we're very new to writing musicals. This is the first musical we've ever written so there. Is this like this expectation from us to be. We want jen to feel like we are professional. Like we are at the level that you are but we also have this other thing. That's like we've never been on broadway like we've never directed a broadway show so it's also just this like are we doing this. Right are we. Are we making her feel as comfortable as possible. But also like as confident as possible in this project. And so i definitely being those are things that are running through your head as you're running sessions and like sending over music and demos and just luckily a they've gen angelina. Who are our biggest broadway. People have been so kind through the whole thing and so they've been very they're so incredibly talented. It's hard to be like. Hey seeing this thing and then they sing and it's perfect but there definitely is is an anxiety that oh maybe it won't be before you sort of realize like these are people who are talented and who are doing their job and who wanted create something amazing just as much as you do so with their experience. I'm wondering is there a bit of like they took you under their wing mike okay. We've done this before. We know your new. Here's how this work was at a collaborative back and forth with them now. It's funny because i'm gonna say no. And i mean not for that to to sound bad about them at all but i think that the reality is. I don't think any of us knew anything about doing this like i. I think elian. I knew the most about how to handle remote a recording setups. Just because we've been doing the podcast and since elian. I live on opposite coasts. We've always done less. Hang out remotely. We've recorded every single. One of our guests remotely. We've never had anyone in a statement or any of that. So we're we're we know enough about how to do this but it's different deporting someone as a guest on a podcast versus doing a music session for musical. You know that's that's different. And so i think ultimately we were sort of the people who knew more about that coming into the project. But it's been just a whole new experience i think for almost everyone involved really to to navigate through doing the voice sessions and the music sessions and getting all of the sheet music getting the scripts getting you know making sure everyone has access to everything and has what they need. And everything is set up doing Recording setups navigating. Everybody's different equipment everybody's different softwares. And so. yeah it's it's i think it was a learning curve all around. I think everyone's a bit out of their comfort zone on this project even broadway people know. I'm curious how has the musical changed from. Its inception to what you have now. How has it changed. I mean land. I started with a google drive document which we will look back at every once in a while and sort of laugh to be honest we. I think we had a really strong vision from the beginning. We like. We did like one big brainstorm where we were like. Here's all these characters and here's the story lines we want and we feel from the we landed on. Okay it's going to be at a lesbian bar and it's going to be the slept story and hasn't really changed that much since then one of the things that is sort of funny though is that joe's character because joe's character was meant to be the love interest of sam's best friend and she still is so joe and mel. Have this side love story. Joe in the original was supposed to be On the construction team like one of the contractors who is gonna come and diminish the bar and so there was going to be this lake construction worker contractor who also was gay was like. Oh i don't actually want to. You know i don't really want to tear down this place but and then there's going to be a whole lotta love story there. I feel like everyone loves a good. You know lesbian carpenter but woman in her safety vest. Yes she turned regulars maybe the sequel but honestly be the biggest change from like the first first Of like a beat sheet through the plot. yeah not honestly not. A lot has really deviated from canada initial plan. How about the songs. I feel like we did. Add a few songs like there is some songs we really knew. We wanted to have from the beginning and then some that we added. Yes some of that as because we did work with One of our other. Executive producers is our scriptwriter And i think as the script kinda came together like we had a rough outline of where songs we're going to fall And some of that. God a little clearer as we sort of had someone to to help you know. Help set up the which what was going to happen. In which episode helped develop some of the characters voices a little bit like kind of really narrow in on who they were as people so yes some of the songs kind of either either migrated a little where they were which changed a little bit of of exactly what they were getting across and then some of them were just you know oops we wrote an extra ballot for jamie so put it in somewhere right and it's probably one of my favorite songs in the show. So thank you for writing that random oopsy accidental creative. Let's yeah so you've written this out in episodes. Is there like a complete script and then you broke it up or did you write it with a thirty minute segment in mind and then the next one the next one. How did you break it up like that. Yeah i mean we wrote the entire story. And then i think we like divided it more into episodes. We tried to pick. Where are especially as the podcasts coming out every week. Where are those cliffhangers that can keep people wanting to listen to the next episode like we when we sat down to with our writer caitlyn who is like riding all of our dialogue leeann. I had already had. Okay here's what happens from the beginning to the end. And here's what's happening. Every single point in between and we sort of had it on like an act one two divided because we ideally want it to be as long as a traditional musical so if long-term if people really love it we could put it on stage or we could make a movie or we could do other things with it so we we had act one and act two and then we sort of divided from there where the the big eats were and one of the basic rules of writing is to write what you know. So why was it. Important to the both of you to have a lesbian story at the forefront of this musical form. Do we know it is. That's something that we know definitely know it. Do you know anyone. I know lots of that. I've heard of them. No i mean not for liza. Yeah it was one hundred percent like intentional for us to have a very very very. Lgbtq focused story lgbtq focused musical and like we said like there are two leads is a lesbian storyline. But we also have a bunch of other identities represented. Lee's character is actually a romantic and that was really important to lead to include to both of us to include. But i know. Lee the one who i brought that up. You know i mean. I think it's something that when elian. I look at We spend a lotta time on our podcast talking about media and representation and things like that We have a a friend. Just that we have on the podcast that we'd heard on another friends podcast and things like that. Who is a romantic. And it kind of brought up this other idea of like what are other identities. That just don't have any representation. You know at the end of the day and so it was something that we wanted to do. Was to see how you know. What can we fit in. We have an eight person cast It's obviously going to be very you know like queer women heavy but But we can you know. We have the were writing at ourselves. We can decide what these people are with. Their lives are with their stories are What perspectives we. Try to represent and stories. We try to tell and so it was just something that you know we. We wanted to kind of push as much as we could for just more representation. I mean obviously it would characters. You're not gonna fit in every every across the board but you know what fit in the story. And what could we can get in there right because the you know the word queer lesbian these are adjectives but by no means described the whole person. There's many different Definitions that they can be depending on the person many different lesbians in the story. I mean and that's the thing. Is that like we wanted. Our characters not be tokenist by their identities right like of course like their identity is a huge part of this show because it's like set in a gay bar. It's all about the like family that you build with other people who have the same identity as you or similar identities so like you can't if you took it out of the show it would not be the show would not exist it would not be the show. It would just be like how to lose a guy in ten days. I don't like it would just be another straight up a but like if you have reasonable character who's a part of the community and there the main characters you have like ways to develop them rather than having them be the supporting characters. You barely hear about now. The musical theater community is certainly one that that is both friendly to and well represented by the lgbtq community as well but what do you want those outside the musical theater lgbtq. What do you want them to take away from the flame. How gosh. I mean as some some really fun songs. I think the thing that we wanted to do with the show is to make it accessible. I mean obviously we're writing it from our perspective and were writing. It specifically to provide representation but we wanted. We wanted it to be a show that everybody would enjoy. And i think that to take from that specifically that you can engage with and listen to and enjoy a story even if your not the main character there will be people who will love this musical. Who are straight. Because it's just gonna be fun. And i think that there will be parts of the story that they'll still like relate to even though they'll be relating to a lesbian character the same way that most people grow up relating to media that doesn't represent us For most of our lives. I mean i think that that's something that were sort of hoping to and i think also just telling the story of you know these are chris faces and they are important to these people and there's a whole mix of people. There's all sorts of different types of people. There's not here's the one token gay and the cast you know that's at least that's what i would say. I don't know if you wanna add onto that ellie. I mean i think you said it really well. But i do think it's just like there are universal themes in the show that i think will resonate with everyone which is like from jamie's perspective the main character. She's just like constantly searching for love. She wants to love somebody and she wants to be loved. And i feel like every person in the entire world can relate to that just of like having so much love to give and just wanting to give it to someone and receive it back in the same way. I think everyone can relate to that and in the same way that i think everyone can relate to that chosen family. Chosen family really like lgbtq idea. But i feel like most people have chosen family. You know like my mom's best friend. Fran is my quote unquote arts rate. Like she's my mother's chosen family and they are two straight. Women have chosen each other to be their support right. So i do feel like there's you can all relate to like wanting to help the people in your life and wanting to preserve the community that you've created i think that's like the overarching thing that everyone can relate to absolutely because it's whether it's the lgbtq community or like for myself theatre folk have kind of become my my extended family of siblings. And you know you have your good days and bad days with them just like you know your actual family so yeah it really is important to find those of like mind those that you can trust with your with your inner selves and that you can be as true as open as you can be with with. Those kind of people knesset better myself in this musical. Podcast is a production of its association with your other podcast. Let's hang out now. Do you see the flame as an extension of those kind of episodes and conversations that you've already have on the podcast. I think it's more just this is it's something that we want to do Continue doing and we thought it made sense since we were forming like a an entity as the podcast in general to sort of have this be an offshoot of we now our podcast who also produces musical broadcasts. So it's not directly related to the less hang out like the episodes that we've had. I think it's just sort of an extension of l. e. y. as a business venture. It's a furthering of of that message and that collaboration. Yeah so then. Do you see other musicals or other types of entertainment productions down the road. There might be some more down the line you know we might have some ideas kicking around all ready for what's next you know we don't we'll have some time until we probably respond role on it but Yeah i mean we're we're absolutely we wanna do at least you know we want to do another one. We will probably want to do more after that. We've just we've had so much fun doing this And we're so happy with how it's coming together like we're just i think we're really proud of what the final product is going to sound like. We like the experience. We'd like to keep doing it and we like our little team that we've put together. We're trying to not get too ahead of ourselves but we also have since we started the podcast like every year. We're pretty much like all right. We're gonna do this so we always have something. New sort of churning in our brains so of course we have likely said we have all these ideas and we're excited about the future but also for now like we're very very excited about this one project so we're like how much we can do with this with the flame and then hopefully like we said like i have. We have very good feelings but hopefully people are gonna love it. I really think they are and probably they're going to be like. When's the next musical because something that you had to go through for. This podcast was raising money. You know getting capital and asking people for money which is not always easy to do. I i mentioned that that was Difficult in some respects especially for something new that both of you hadn't done before it was. It is not something that we had done for our podcast. 'cause you know most of our Costs for the show that we make just the two of us are pretty low And yeah it was. It was an experience to crowd fund a whole musical of this of this size. So ideally we will not have to do that in the future but at least we know we can and we learned a lot about how because it is. It's not easy. I mean crowdfunding is as not an easy thing to do. It's it's exhausting. It is very much fulltime. We don't realize like how every day or just reaching out to people. Yeah because it really is. Its own thing but you know it's one thing to create something artistic but to market it and get people to see it wanted pay for it. That's a whole other thing. Yeah agreed and that. I mean i know this podcast is called while never make it. I'm like i do feel like that's a huge part of why like it's very very hard to be a performer and to be like it's not just. Oh hey i have talent look at me. It's like i have talent. look at me. Let me tell you why you should pay me for that talent. You're constantly selling yourself. Which i think is a full time job in itself on top of just creating things. So you're so you're so so right on that. now. I want to talk a little bit about each of you individually lee. You had mentioned a certain day job now. I've had a few phd's on the show before. But they mostly sunny theater psychology. But you're certainly my first one to hold one in chemistry. So so what. Your left logical side of your brain. Think of all this right brain creativity. I think that it's just been really interesting. You know. I think as you mentioned like how i kind of fell into this particular venture felt like a journey but it wasn't very long one so i mean it's not like there's ever been a huge disconnect for me like i grew up with you know grew up in musical theater. My parents have always acted and my whole family. Sayings and I've always had an interest a passion for music for all of that stuff and But i until a couple of years ago when l. I mentioned Hey we want to do some music on the podcast like why. Don't you write a song for us. And i said i've never written a song and yet here we are. You know so. I don't i don't know i mean i think it's just it feels like a very funny thing that that has probably just always been there kind of somewhat lying dormant like it's not like the music part of it is new. I just. I'd never really tried for all of this. This much of it. I guess yeah. I mean it's it's interesting when something that we're you know that we think of as as either a hobby or just something. That is an interest over here then. All the sudden gets plopped in our lap. And we actually get to do it. We actually get to work on it. It's been an adventure. It's an adventure. I'm still working on. I think 'cause i do i. It's weird to take something that's always been there. But that's never really been something that i consider like. This is part of me and my identity and who i am like. It's like i would ever introduce myself to someone and say like. Oh yeah i write music. I i'm a composer. That's they're like they're not. Those aren't terms that that feel familiar to me as as a way to see myself And so it still makes it interesting in some ways. Because i think the impostor syndrome part of it is is super real and super presence. Still and i'm still sort of trying to navigate that without just constantly constantly downplayed ever situation l. Just notting at me because she watches media at all the time. Well because i've been tellingly to own it. Like i said because it is like when lease like i don't think of myself as composer and i'm like well okay. What's the criteria for a composer. Would you say writing. Twenty-five songs is something like that composer would do you know a lot of music. It's like a crazy amount of music that some new songwriters haven't even written that much music and they're like. I'm a songwriter. Like so you. Have you have it to back you up. I know we've had a busy year now like it's a lot a lot of music to right. And it's really catchy. Amazing songs like i will always just pump up like she is an incredible songwriter. And maybe it's not her fulltime job but that doesn't mean that like she doesn't have incredible talent of course and at definitely after the flame once it's released lee you can no longer say budding or maybe one side it'll have phd. In chemistry. The other side. I write songs. Yes exactly now. Speaking of music you and i both have a background in capella. We've done octa acquires in college. So that's something that we both did. It didn't have a love for and so tell us about clear harmonies and what you do there. So clear harmonies is what i do recording under and i do acapella recording so that was my first big thing that i really started doing after i graduated from college. That was like my first career goal. I was like. I'm going to be an acapella recording engineer. And that's the thing. I'm going to be and i went for it and i am. This is a very specific genre music to be like air. Various various was a big. I think it was. Because i like like you. I did acapella in college. I was the music director of my college group. I loved it like we went. Ica's as we want or quarterfinals like it was like this like big part of my life. I also was in cape harmony which is an all female professional acapella group summer. If you've heard of hannah sound like the there the female version of that but so acapella was just a huge part of my life. And i was like well. How can i make money doing this. And recording one of the bigger moneymakers in that space. Not that it is. A large moneymaker but in terms of like what people are paying for. People are going to pay you to come record them because that's skill that most people don't have right so that's why i wanted to go into that and then as that has progressed. I've just become more just of a more well rounded recording engineer. Just y like. I love working with lee because like i also love arranging for acapella i would love arranging acapella songs. And then once i started working with lee she would write a song and i'd be like oh let me arrange this. And wow i can use all of these instruments. I don't have to voice but was there ever a thought that the flame could be an capella musical. No not even close. We both love acapella music. I feel like that's it's especially not for this show. I don't think it's what we wanted. We wanted this to feel more familiar. Because it's already a podcast musicals. A new thing to begin with you know it's not a format that really exists very readily yet. I mean there's been a handful that have been made. And so. I feel like that would be taking it. Even within within a niche a little humidity levels of nation there. So i think we wanted this to feel familiar enough for people to kind of wrap their heads around a podcast. Musical is but you know. It's it's nothing against i mean. We both love othello music. I just. I think it's not what we wanted to do for this one right right. Yeah well it's been wonderful to talk to you both about the flame and i can't wait to listen to it so thank you so much for joining me. Thank you so much for having a thank you for having us To learn more about l. e. lee and the flame you'll find links to them in the show notes. Thank you so much for listening and joining these talented ladies and myself for our conversation on. I'll never make it if you know someone who think would enjoy or benefit from an episode like this. Then please share this podcast without. Oh i'm your host patrick. Oliver jones in charge of writing editing and producing this podcast dylan. Adams is the booking producer incidental music in this episode provided by bortex. Why on never make. It is a part of the helium radio network and a member of the broadway makers alliance aright as we finish out this episode as promised. Here's one of the songs from the flames. First musical episode. This is jim colella along with lee. Ellie and the flame ensemble singing. Keep it lit. This change to the case would never bet you put some to chop off dad a ring. Cisco's the fight when you consult the good ship battle hold on to up towards. We're gonna fight that. Are it ever quick quick win. 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Roger Earl of Foghat
"Hey this is marquess off. And this is rpm forty-five okay fasten your seatbelts. I've enjoyed these. Rpm forty-five talks. But this one just might be my fave because writer. Earl is a hoot. Roger earl is a founding member and drummer of fog hat. An english rock band most famous songs like slow ride driving wheel. And i just wanna make to you. The band is achieved eight gold albums one platinum and one double platinum album and they're still going strong now a couple things you need to know to help you understand our talk. Most importantly roger refers to dave a lot. Dave is dave everett also known as lonesome dave who is with roger and savoy brown before they founded fog hat and even before that roger also talks about albert grossman. He was a legendary manager of such artists. As bob dylan and janice joplin among other luminaries. And he founded bears phil records which was the record label that had great success with cat and vice versa. So now you're up to date. Here's our talk with roger earl. What a beautiful day. Where are you. i'm in michigan. Where my favorite states. I love guy in there. Where are you. I'm out on long island on the no shows Jefferson but a beautiful diet. I mean sounds coming up at the leaves are starting to float down as gold is golden. Sees this beautiful. Yeah same here. it's good to be alive. Good to be alive. Well that's what you strike me as kind of a guy. I've watched you a little bit on youtube and stuff you strike me as someone who really is has a great attitude and just to be alive and yeah but you know. I'm probably one of those fortunate few in this That you're really enjoy an have a fantastic girlfriend I have a beautiful wife and my manager is absolutely unbelievable. I'm suspecting since she's there that these are all the same person correct yes and she has a new york accent. Fucking new york i. She was jazzy. Go briefly but yeah new york. Oh well you know where. I where i come from here in the mid west jersey new york. But we can't tell. Actually i'm a i'm an island. I've lived here since nineteen seventy see. I moved here in seventy three seventy four somewhere. Seventy-three that long ago how doing this. I've encountered a number of artists from out of the country. Who have moved here. You're from england. Obviously london with london. Okay why why do so. Many artists make their residents here. You think selana music blues jazz rock and roll country and western gospel music. This is the land of music. I grew up in at my parents. Really core was always music in the house by alipay piano. My mother would sing as did my father. My older brother colin play piano. I started playing piano but I got. I can fat twelve in the cave. See kinda who motivated you. Who was like your hero. Jerry lewis and when i went to see jerry lewis. My mother said he. I don't he's trying. He was nevertheless often that that was the thought of it. Jerry lee lewis. He adult my. Brian couldn't think of anything else other than planning a rock and roll band weren't to play piano. I but seemed a little bit more complicated than banging drums. I started taking lessons around that time. When i was twelve or thirteen. And you quit school at fifteen yeah. I hated school in. I wanted to travel wanted to do things and music was like uppermost began. A commercial artist was just a means to an end to pay for my cymbals and drums. I was good at it Tool gen when. I was about twenty or so before joint support brown. I was earning money and we will work in like two or three days. A week in the band was in. I gave up earning. Maybe hundred fifty pounds a week joined savoy brown so you make your way to savoy brown. I mean that's that's a band we've all heard of. Yeah that would that. We're doing well at the time. But looking for by span drama and i went to the club in south west london. Upper of my father's car my drums in it and i took a long lunch break from where i was working. I didn't get the job the first time around because myself. And my friend. The bass. Bob we will additionally additioning vice barron drama. The harry simmons manager savoy browse manager. Coot me back about a month or so later and said you wanna come on dishing again. I said i'm back again same thing. My dad's car took a long lunch break into went to saint pub upstairs. Carry out says we played for run. Whatever couple of our housing. I shop packing up my drums inside to take him down stairs and identify. Who's can't remember who said they said. Where are you going. I said i'm going back to her. Why i said. God gig in birmingham tonight. There was a lot of fun. It was great band to be in music with fund. A fortunate played with. I think right especially great vice verse nine now. It helped a lot. You know when you play with great musicians and people who can really plan that are into music in savoy. Brown was fantastic. I had not plus. So why did you leave savoy brown. Then let me put it this way back. Then we were earning between ten and fifteen thousand dollars a night. We were playing five to seven days a week and get one hundred dollars a week. Oh right but i was happy playing because it's doted so dave didn't get paid for recordings we didn't get. Dave never got paid any money for any of his writing. So i didn't see improving even the even though they said it. Would we talked about it at night and we arranged to have a meeting the next morning with myself. Dave and the manager. Harry and we sat down that breakfast with him and said we decided. We're going to leave but we'll stay as long as you need us as long as kim. Not just in. What if you're making a record. Whatever but you know. We'll leave. And with that harry said will never work in the states again and whenever work in england or europe again he had that much power. Well yeah because when we eventually finished. We with an agency cooled. Christmas and i went to see Went to this house. A main dyke. We talked and he said. Harry simmons managed chicken shack and savoy brown which were two of the biggest band in england at the time in europe and he said harry threatened to take these bands away from us. If we book you were genuine. They said with sorry. 'cause we you know we'd like to help but what happened was I'd become good friends of this guy. Tony otd hewlett down here on long island and on the first two i did was to boy became friends so when we left. Savoy brown's foreground came back over to the states. Tony went to see the band. Of course none of us were there and he called me up and say what's going on said well you know we left the band and myself dighton tonia foaming and you've been looking. It gets out by. He'd been talking to albuque- gripes a-and abbott was opening up a starting a new record label burial records and tony. It applied for the job of Working there or run in the record label to fish can actually got it but I think albert grossman actually liked tony. People very bright. Tony deranged for our to come and see us will. We could get gigs. said we rented a club in north west london. There is linked hybrid. Where my foot will team used to play. So abba grossman came down to see us at the. We've mentioned this club in the afternoon someday. During the week there was no interest style beer and alcohol and he was only small so we show up on the stage and album About twelve thirteen feet away from us. Where the chairs and We started playing when we visit. We too loud anyway. It was too late to turn it down. Probably about six or seven songs on the now but they said hey. Is there anywhere. We get some tim biscuits. I said yeah cost. The rally is the hotel we can get it to. Embassies k. We went. I've across the we sat down team. Busies arrive and an abbot. The looks around the table. Hey let's do it. Even to this day. I get chills. Because i remember that album grossman says. Hey let's do it. It gets done we have to do is do your pop album is gonna be there. He's gonna do whatever he has to do to make it work so that you can recall records. Whatever at this time you had been out of work for while because of this harry character if about year and a half over a year and a half and bunny was getting rather tie. You hadn't even played like in pubs and stuff like nothing. now we had weekend capital gigs. when alba got interested in the band the beatles loosest during tighter was working. For warner brothers. Embezzle a subsidiary of warner brothers. And he got us a couple of gigs like private posses which did not go down well private parties and forecast buying yeah right Wasn't a lot of conversation going on in those parties. Let me you turn the noise. Just turn the noise down can you. Would you please turn that noise. Yeah that was. Derek actually was very instrumental getting some work and a number of other. Things wasn't working for us so it'd be came out of the goodness and kindness but you needed a gig needed a contract. Well album gave his contract. He sent me I think bob the bank account semi ten thousand dollars. I booked to time at rockville studios. Where dave edmunds worked and record in. I'd heard a lot of developments record. Dive edmonds grayson record. So i figured if he can make great records air so can we. It's not a case. Applying was alright. But it didn't sound why benjamin stopped sounded like golden. The few angels have come down to jam with a rock band so manages the divestments easing you could produce fall cat forest because we produce nasa and he said lailah tenure boy When i'm when i'm dome at my record. Yeah i'll do that so when dave came on board. That's that i out. That would have been anywhere near as accessible as it was without dave edmunds info on the first album and it also helped out on the second out in a bit as well genius at brilliant nice guy too and that first album lynn. Golden the us. That's pretty good debut yet was and I just wanna make love to you. Go played on the radio. Anna jet nicole me out and said will get ready and we're gonna win and so that was it. We were off. You guys never had the success in england that you had in the us. Why is that is that because of harry. Harry is no longer with us so we should go for harry. Pieces shit is necessary to do that. Yes this is nasty especially as cumin. I with friends as was dive. It was it was unnecessary the anyway but does that lie. He couldn't manage this sure wonder why that no never mind. That's another story willowy. Why was asking why has so much success in the us but not in your home country because we never played there. We came to the states myself. Indict especially i felt. I was born on the wrong side of the big pond. Anyway but this is like i said earlier in the program Land of music. I came here in new york sees fantastic bands at the clubs around your your got to play with other ex. It was beautiful. My podcasts is about the hits. It's about top forty hits. I know you had you guys really to me. Are more of an album band. We had tremendous success. How many albums did you end up selling over the years. I've got no idea okay. But you can gold. You've had platinum. You've had double you had it double platinum go. What did we made like seventeen eighteen twenty albums. They will gone gold. I think even our best of a cd and cassette when gold. Yeah it's Life is good. Yeah so your first big hit the one that everyone here knows. Slow ride as tell me a route on. This is the flam arrived at bank in fact. When we've making the record. Nick said to me just go bang on the drums us it but you make go bang. Bang okay went. You said that's it but just wanna make love to you was out. I hit a first album now. Won a single man. We didn't do that right. A single is now you we try to might write music that we i can music that we hope other people were like but not right in a single wave what that way for the record company usually would pick singles except asai ride. We'd finished recording a full album up in sharon vermont in studio. That's what recorded it and nick jameson. Alive went back out there to finish the mixing on slow ride. And what was the b side Your love infamy of that was off the full fist city album. A song was nearly eight minutes long so we had a station wagon and we put him in the wagon. Drive back down to woodstock and went. Went straight to bed. Records hadn't slept because we'd been mixing ivanai and said we got pretty tired anyway. We went to the federal officers in fish game museum. We tried to track for him of siro side and love it. Because nick and i decided that was the sink. Popish said will nice eight minutes song we said fuck. You is the single anyb- only song we ever ever said. This is out single good choice and he said you can't put it is eight minutes yes we can fuck you so put it out a play but they would fade it out. Then course you know some of the. Dj's would do their own at. Its on it. So nikki eventually succumb to the pressure and he edited down to. I think it was full minute so three something. I played lewis. I think it was. I'm thinking three forty two. But i don't know for sure right. Sounds about three forty something. That's night to seventy five. Oh no no. Magic number was eight minutes on a single as heart too. I mean the the groups get a little thin at that point. Don't they played okay. Yeah okay if i record. I think sandy gray on the radio show does to these days when over on the right or night we turn on right. Yeah when it comes on. It's a good record. Oh yeah well. I gotta tell you. I was in the audience on friday. November twenty second nineteen seventy four. Now you've been everywhere so don't expect you to know where you were but it was in rockford illinois in the national guard armory. Yeah i remember that. Sure you like a real toy it right so a you sounded great though i remember we were sitting on the floor. Right be doubt. Oh no we wouldn't do that all in hispanic getting around smoking dope. I gotta ask you this question. Because i've heard you answer the question about how far can't got its name. You said it was about award. Someone tried to use an a scrapbooking. Yes and dive. Indict came up with what it was scheduled game with his younger brother and made up the name and his brother said that's not a word and we decided on a night when we finish the first album. We were going out to london myself. I n rod. We would drive into london. We actually got there and said we're gonna call themselves. We had a number of names but they were horrible. Anyway and i think we decided that day some others may remember it differently but i looked up fall cat this morning and i said i said what's the definition of four cat and according to google. It's i don't know if you can see this using marijuana that is a euphemism for getting high on marijuana so so do you want to just come clean now. No it's is legal nets. He'll yeah come on. Come clean for the for. I need a scoop out on a second wave is that is not talking just not. He's not owning it. Now have in fact on the first album. Covey or see A drawing of. I guess what A fog cat was his name was lusa lusophone cat and he didn't invent have smoke coming out Was an artist. Even though dave didn't earn a living as an artist he was a very good aussies. Jeez outlook was interesting and funny as she was great asks why i just wanted to clear that up because you know you've been given the story. The scrabble game all these years. And you know here we. It's right there urban dictionary so there you go. I'm glad that i could give you some information today. Actually my manager is taken note of that so let me ask you something more about the history of the band. You guys broke up at some point in the early eighties right. What happened was day decided to move back to england. I didn't know who's going We came off the road. Nine hundred and eighty three eighty four and i got home. My wife at the time said united states moving to england. I said they didn't talk law. He had a great voice and he could sing any breakage. He didn't talk about what was going on. It was kinda strange. I think it was probably time for a reich anyway. But that you didn't tell me was moving to england so there was no fight or anything like that. No it was just like think it was time for you. Know we look playing lodge cubs. We were still doing okay. Changed from you know. Eight hundred thousand people. It was more like eight thousand now so that now. The band was doing fine and playing great. I think i managed what the time was trying to get a record deal. Maybe that had something to do with it. So bears phil had had you lose at this point. Yeah we dumb. ls recold. We were looking for a new wreck. Yes and manager. Couldn't get one all we couldn't get one. Maybe that's why would he figured he'd tried greener pastures. So i took some time off then. I put a band together. Which was three quarters of all at the bambridge called the need for mba's wondering about that. Why why did you do that. We know at new tremor is i don't copulating whilst in the upright position well now i think it's a great name a now that i understand anyway We got another singer guitar player so he joined the band and we're going out trampers but they kept appetizing cat because we were doing. The set was focused songs. The other hawk was like arm be blue songs or some south that we were writing at the time and i carried. We went on carried on as falk. the knee tremblers for it. Five six seven eight hundred eighty nine eight hundred nine. Ninetieth date came back from england. So i went to see. David said you know you're going to put the original bam back together. He said all. I had to come off the road because i was going through a divorce and david. I wrestled as focused around the country for a couple of years so there were two fog cats. Yeah and i tried just keeping in touch with our regional manager said. How much money do you want to get out from the bed. Because he was talking to dave. And i said i'll take off a million. He said w stupid. I said a million setting a setting the fucking bang and so that. I still like friends during this time. I mean you're here. You're you're competing for fog at now. Now davis pretty weird. He had a real scumbag agent. Who whose name mentioned state green anyway i. We began to coat and stuff. The and i both under the name anyway. Move of the two owners of the name manager of being bought out years before that it was just mandate so i kept trying to talk dive into it. You wanna do it in eventually. Rick rubin who. I never met said that he wanted to recall the original band so they called me out and he said look if you wanna put back together with me. That's fine. I said why always wanted to do dave. He said okay of never had a problem after that. Now did you get a chance to hear dave's version of fog. Yes i went to see him a couple of times. How did it compare to yours. I have a crappy set to the guitar player and singer and the drama. He said he wasn't miley. So we didn't know we had two cats wasn't always since close enough about it or okay with everything so right. This original manager is managing again. Dave i probably got ties or after a friendlier. I know that you had some losses though. Yeah dave was diagnosed with kidney cancer so he came off the road I keep i keep in touch with die till jim by a couple of months. Or so he was hitting florida's leaving merv arrivers living and a cold me out one day he had his kidneys removed and he and he said he said a promote to the gym raj good he said a dump cow in on i can eat. I can keep an apple down. I said okay we want to do. He said to put the band back together. I said i said okay now. Today actually go back on the road after his illness. Yeah can be saudi gone out on the road and we had a law firm then Seem to be fine. He was singing implying right. We did a couple of dvd's We did some live recordings. We were talking about doing another studio album. But then dave's wife became ill. She had uterine cancer and came off the road. We did a lot ship ships in the desert in on the west coast and Three months later they died. Can't kind that was that was rough his His daughter called me up at seven o'clock in the morning said that david died and he actually died from complications. You monia yeah. We said he was fifty six. But the band carries on dinesh. She said. I told you about once every couple of weeks. I didn't do anything. Initially a i got a bunch of cassettes and cds from singers and south but none of them were even close to being. You know what this ban needed and we'd actually done a dight. Ironically it was a benefit for the kidney cancer foundation in Fighting cleveland and the opening act was humble pie. Now dive and i had been really good friends with steve mary. When we first came over here we did a dice with humble pie and stevie to shine to us and he looked out for his as somebody. Five foot tollways looking out for you but he did. That's another story he was. He was beautiful. So stephen mary County they hadn't died yet. Steve moved back to england jerry journey. The drama was carrying on with humble pie. Had a catholic guitar applies in the bed but the lead singer was kelly. Hyun said i even sitting on the bossom said wisconsin but this guy's got under his fingernails singing now might see various songs it's. Tv was a great singer. Incredible voice so we got out there. The band starts then. Didn't sound all that good. It was pretty sloppy. And then charlie started singing anti even though teach others anybody who can sing. Cb marry songs has great sal types so after died my road manager. Tell him. I said look overnight. Guy sang with humble pie. If you can get him to call me I'm not really interested in anybody else. Charlie hyun cool me and we talked for awhile and he said he was interested joining the band humble pie struggling night for whatever reason so i sent him about twenty or twenty five songs and in fact my girlfriend at the time said to me as a song somebody to relearn and i said if he wants to gigi learn jelly he called me back about a couple of months. Spent two months later and said i've got it. He was working at ford on the assembly line at the time. But yeah and we. You have have a job. You're going to be going to work on. the league. tend to sekou me up and we flew him out here. I went to pick him up and myself and he sat in living room and saudi going through the songs and it sounded like humble pie joined volcan which actually pretty cool yay. Charlie's greisinger greg joplin. So that's the lineup. You've got right now. Rodney quinn is playing bass. Craig mcgregor past three years ago. Rodney's the kidding bat. He's only like fifty years old or something. That's great when the kid in the band fifty years old. Let me ask you about a couple more things because you are a guy who has a lot of interest. It seems to me way beyond your music. You do still have that winery. What we we make a wine. We have wine mica out two thousand ten p now. Two thousand and ten shot night. We actually picked a muddied. we've settled. I think i might have a case to be. The one that affects wine was two thousand. Five kevin i seven yards from. Pesaro will come from central coast to california at why maker is a man cool gusty breast bution who is renowned. Why make a good friend is well. We have three lines at the moment. linda toll to our maker. I think it out a few weeks ago to see at least doing out in california because absolutely Light on the weather and the fis. He's okay and number. The vineyards are okay. But it's just it's just not to horror show out there what's been going on. I went on your website so it looks like it's still a going concern awaited this now. You don't want to really nice mine you can't have it. Think four hundred cases of wine should last me until it's my time did he is so you're not real worried about the prophets of this business Yeah go to okay dot com and you can find out what things i won. T shirts bandannas mosques. What else phone cat. Sellers dot com will. Also now that you know the true meaning of the word faulk had you could get into another intoxicant as well. It might be a really good fit post problems. So in addition you are also a chef and i saw some of your rocking kitchen on youtube. I thought it was great. And i love to eat. It's yeah i cook so distracting kitchen. It look like you're making an into a show as like a regular thing or is that something you've done in the past or what. I wasn't clear on that and yet we did a few things. Some people told to us about it. Did you go to food network. We have we. Actually saudi touring and linda is sort of in jot to the people. They wanted to do this and you have to go there and do this. It's like you know. I mean we got like you know. Twelve people working in the organization. I mean i of just stop playing. 'cause i wanna you know. Make some pasta salad. Somebody the lot the last five or six years have been. We've been really really busy. We i mean we have to turn down work. I don't know what playing more than four days a week after about the full everybody's tired. I think the ronnie johns about three days a week. But they take a day off in between alaska. Ronnie stuns great band there. Okay come great. Hey i read. Somewhere that mick jagger went spill buron you. Yeah went to see the starnes. I was growing up in london. The planet ill by island. I was at the bar by then. You could just go in anyway. I was sixteen. Maybe seventeen seventeen but yeah. It was at the by that beer around bumped into me. He probably was remember that. Well you know. I think he had a touch with greatness that night he should be telling this story. He probably better stories to tell. He's with kinney's for his lifetime a. I'm a big fan. I think they're a great band. I always liked Tally is a a drama. Get great just the way he prize the grooves he plays. I mean it's only rock row but it's like he plays well. It's only rock and roll but i like it sammie broker out but i like it been fun. It has been fun. Maybe have some more wine to you you. You know how to live yeah. I'm very fortunate. And i know how fortunate i am. Well that was fun wasn't it. I wanna thank roger earl for giving me the best time i've had since starting this podcast and i'd like to thank you for listening will be back again next week on. Rpm forty five.
Goldmine: Americana music
"Presented by climate power education fund does big oil care about our streets flooding or our home burning not according to an exxon mobil top lobbyists. Did we aggressively bite against some of the science. Yes you know. We were looking out for our shareholders. Take care about profits. Not people learn more at polluters dot. Exposed is a welcome to the gold. Mine podcast again. This is pat prince editor and the goal mine. Podcast is a member of the pantheon podcast group and we have a proud to present lease zimmerman a longtime contributor to gold. My magazine and lee has a book out called american americana music voices visionaries and pioneers of an honest sound This came out during the pandemic rightly last year shortly before the pandemic actually now that you know the musical john americana can can prove difficult to define but it's a choose commonly today as an author will manabe the definitive Book autumn marikana. How would you define it. The purpose of the book itself was to define it. Because it seems to me that although americana has come into wide use in recent years maybe maybe in the last decade or two but in my experience americana as format existed. Well you could even go back to the fifties you could look at people like the everley brothers or buddy holly or Elvis presley and given their combination of country music and music the heartland and new emerging rock and roll at that time that really could be considered americana jr. but but more to the point where. I was thinking and i do mention that in the books but what i was really thinking about. Were bands like the band and the flying burrito brothers poco and the birds who really established bad template by creating a crossover from country music to rock and roll. And it was so seamless so to me. And what i wanted to put across in this book was that the late sixties and early seventies were really the starting point of americana as we know today was the phrase used though that now. And that's the thing that you know americana was more of a cultural saying you know americana being i don't know mortgage play in a nineteen fifty six chevy or something like that but as far as defining the music it really came into its own in the last couple of decades so back then it was country rock country rock than roots rock you know or alternative country americana came later so the term really was used like in the last decade. Yeah more or less. Maybe a little before that But you know it's grown in prominence and it's become a catchphrase and almost almost sixty shade because there were. That's the another dilemma. Because you say what is americana. And it's more than this country rock crossover americana can be the umbrella for blues and r&b and soul music as well. All routes american marianne through see. Now you have a history in the music business. She worked promotions for abc capital. Yes for cbs tv. Guess what how they describing this kind of music where they just calling country rod. Where pretty much. I'm trying to think back now with when i was with the the late great. Abc records which by the way even mentioning them kind of age. References may because i think a. b. c.'s not been around for four decades But we had bands like the amazing rhythm aces. And we had the later incarnation of poco after they that at big records so at a. b. c. n. We had tom petty. You know who could be considered americana in his own. So we had some early incarnation of that but it was never ever referred to as americana was country rock or just stand alone music of some sort you know and then capital journey. Think we had. I mean we had bob seger. Steve miller not relate strictly within the template but none of it. None of it back in the day was called. Americana you know seger and miller could definitely be. They have a lot of roussey. Yeah they're sort of like a roots rock band. You know themselves. Oh yeah what. I see your hartland rocker. Yeah yeah. But i'm glad you brought up poco because poco i kind of feel this way. Don't you think pogo doesn't get enough credit for what not at all not at all i mean. Are they in the rock roll hall of fame or the flying burrito brothers or nitty gritty dirt band in. None of those bands made the rocker. All and yet they were so transformative in terms of bringing this country element into it. As we're the birds you know and end. The interesting thing is before these bands came along people that like country music and ibo. You know that were rock-n-rollers were so so that burgeon ultra-lean socially vinegar right. Yeah i mean you know in the birds. I play the the grand ole opry. It was like they were aliens from outer space. Because you know not to say country people were you know the redneck that they were. You know very instilled in their own route so these long air. You know rock and roll types. Were totally aliens. Event and the fact that these spans that we just mentioned like oboe were able to bring these two divergent cultures together that it had sapped. What's remarkable hasn't successfully and it's too bad about the rock hall because paul cotton and rusty hung reading how i know. They're both godfathers of the movement. You've mentioned them and Richie fury always mentions them in his interviews that he thinks that poco should have gotten a lot more credit for bringing country and rock yup and You know not enough people know of pogo now. they know of the birds right. Yeah definitely know of Other bands like buffalo springfield has gone. It's do the forefront but we'll win will a cocoa definitely in the flying burrito brothers. I mean they really are kind of if you're if you're not into music you probably don't know who they are right art sad very sad For those who aren't familiar. Obviously but i'm burrito brothers were in a sense op sheet of the birds because they were performed by chris thurman and gram parsons who had been in the latter day birds and michael clark. Who's the drummer for the birds. So those three guys You know spin up the birds in created define breda brothers and gene clark of the birds actually contributed two songs in sang onto psalms on their third self. Titled album. burns really went well. I don't know if it was a huge transformation but a win from rock and roll with country influence to more the other way round right. Yeah folk rock. i mean they're accredited birds credit up for bears of folk garage. You know with third search turn is december miss so it wasn't a big big leap really sigo that country route but Their album sweetheart of the rodeo defying burrito brothers sweetheart of the rodeo. I think as much or more than any other album in the entire lexicon of of rock and roll was the album that definitively said now redoing americana country rock or whatever. You wanna call it. That was the significant milestone. Sweetheart of the rodeo. Now a lot of people especially rolling stones fans right keith. Richards fans yeah. It realized that gram parsons. Had a big influence and keith richards. Right that sound that. I guess you could say it started with let it bleed right flowers that yeah that was That was kind of a stones attempted country. Yeah and you know and then yeah let it bleed. You know with that exclusive etel steel guitar as the. Yeah definitely the definitely did it. Because you know you had. They were originally a blues band. So they had the roots american. Yes that's true. And you know the kind of one. Brian jones you know he had left and unfortunately died and then it seems like they made a little bit of a transition to what you could probably call americana. Look at the app. Well before brian john side enough the band the band been dies. He didn't die and then leave the ban in proper orders but that album beggars banquet In particular which is a very sort of acoustic album and very sort of laid back blues. Like robert johnson. You know product on and all those songs on that is almost. I mean if you wanted to call that marikana that might even be a revolutionary idea that it was eric on even now to steer slater i mean but really definitely has its touches there now that now. You're probably hitting on the part. That i like a lot about americana which is not so much. The country rock aspect but the country blues yeah sort of delta mississippi blues robert johnson that acoustic blues sound right and which had a great influence on rock and roll as much as electricals at an and then you had what i really love. Is that progressive folk rock movement. Would he buy into bob dylan and joan baez right. Yeah seventy mitchell. Yeah so you can't forget all that that is also the americana. It's a huge umbrella that you know and i think that's maybe one of the critiques. One of the criticisms is that april set. What is americana. You're saying everything is american but it is. It's a huge. It's a huge umbrella and there's no getting around that so finding that exact definitive Definition that's the challenge. And i think that's one reason. Why matt burke it's kinda sprawling in the sense that you know. I cover a lot of bands. That might seem very dispirit on first glance but they all fit into the niche. You know so. It's like herding cats. You know outlaw element. Yeah exactly you know you you. You know you think g- waylon and willie and you think of christopher stop resent and while some people say out but there's this country now i mean again. They brought another element to it. The sort of rebellious and defiant attitude. And i think that's part of american today in a way not to bands like dogs or jason is spell of a retain that now i mean i think of johnny cash. What i yeah obviously. I should've been semaj. That's the first of orson i kind of think of. Yeah american. has its stylings. You know it's influenced a lot of english bands. We talked about blues right. Oh yeah who's one of your favorite bands. The strawberries right. I mean yeah. Yeah and i never considered them america on a by but it influenced americana influenced earlier albums berry berry Lustig you know but you know. I mean we have to credit the british especially for recognizing unappreciated appreciating american blues. Because we're not for band sly young savoy brown or the stones or news. After even john. Mayall with mac. They were essentially aching elmore james and you know these and and robert johnson. They were taking those songs literally and putting their own spin on it. You know electrifying yet. Or adding english attitude and And that's when americans said wait a minute. This is great. Step away a game from us and it brought back an appreciation of the original masters. Yeah it's it's amazing that it's the english to make a cool look at look at what happened jimi hendrix jimi hendrix was aside and in the states from literally richard and then he went to england became a sensation and then he came back and he was like the conquering era but he was american. Who is i dated in in england. You know It does happen that way i mean. How long did it take to compile. This book didn't take a few years. Oh achieve hafner. Now you know actually cheated cheated cheated. Because what i did is over my years of interviewing these artists. I found a common theme. You know the americana thanks. And essentially i had these interviews Done in many cases written And so it's basically i was compiling would had done over the last couple of decades and writing new intros and a new introduction and finding a way to bring them all together the medically and so it was kind of a short chad as opposed to simply starting from scratch But it was a. It was economically very practical to do that. I knew the answer. But i wanna take know okay prints because a real the real sources the real reason for doing it. That way is because i probably ride for gold mannequin. Have anything distract me for my main mission. Some writing a book. I'm writing a book. But i have to keep my contributions To go out and continue to be diligent and meet deadlines that that pat princess said for me and so the but could secondary secondary notion. yeah while readers. How much you write for the magazine. You're in every issue Do decades right. I mean it's been writing for since then sedate. Forty as i gotta go back yard. I was started in two thousand ten as editor has been how you're all grown up at prince are and You also so. I knew that you had this americana idea in her head and you're compiling it and it was really no on who really spoke out for it so you know you definitely. That's why i said the definitive book on it because it really has written about it Even though it's commonly used phrase now and someone needs to kind of define it. And so i definitely recommend to readers and listeners to pick it up and you can pick it up in the gold mine shop now my hair that it is in there and you should pick it up Go to go go to shop. Dot goldmine mag dot com. And you can and you could get it. What are you working on next with. Thank you for asking I'm actually working on a book that traces the career of a producer slash engineers named gm gains g. a. n. e. s. Ed i fans most people would say. Ooh jim gaines has been an essential part of again. I guess americana. He started working at stax studios with e. provide Booker t. In the end. Cheese in otis. Redding and steve cropper and eventually spawned a career. That included steve miller santa ana huey lewis and the news a number of blues artists and he had some amazing stories amazing anecdotes and so we've kind of put together his the story of his career not necessarily his life story but the story of of an amazing career that again helped shape the course of operators. Using if you look on album credits. Spy by steve miller and huey lewis and santana. You'll see his name. He was an engineer. Is he still working. He's an engineer and producer. And the white prolific amazing stacks should get. That's another brand name in music. That should get more recognition. Yeah just memphis. I mean it's it's incredible. You know all these wellsprings of modern music and people don't really connect the dots too much. But they not. They need to know the roots. They need another roots. And they'll be amazed you know they listened to somebody now like you know james's bell or somebody like that and then they go back and listen to you. Know even like somebody like otis redding perhaps and wow you know it's the the lines that succession become very obvious. You know you really liked games. As bell noticed a lot of people. Yeah i know but that's just because we're doing this in the morning and my brain function other examples yet drive a lot of people who use the word americana or outlaw country or any of that sort of a theme like him you know i. I guess there's reason why. I use him as an example because the first time i saw an ad said this guy he is like a combination of bruce springsteen and johnny cash and You know bob dylan because he has that in theme Polity to him. You know kinda like you're you don't like matches anymore concerts. You get your cell phones. And you're feeling this communal rush and he has said striking urgency in that you know and theme equality that i think is amazing. You know and so. Yeah you s- jason's name jason. If you're if you're listening it was an interview. Yeah us an interview and the checks in the mail. Maybe no just sold you a few more albums. When i think of my favorite okay. I'm getting my favorite americana. Who air marikana my favorite artists. The cowboy junkies. Oh yeah yeah no as again though. They go back to what i mean. They go back up lifts decades. You know they're very laid back. Aren't they ountry. Fused kind of outlaw. That trailer rock during mellow very mellow that spoke. Yeah get all yeah. i like. It liked him for decades. Yeah yeah but you know again. That's another bad. That doesn't seem to get enough attention. I don't think. I mean and with this new surge of these new americana dance. It's almost like they've been put on the backburner shoved to the side. You know they're not nudge. Back into the forefront so to spain and welcome and they will go forerunners of this sort of alternative rock americana. Yes will go and son both. I mean they need to be mentioned because they were. They originated a style that they called no depression. Not sure where that came from but it was. It was sort of a Alternative sort of insurgent americana sound. That was unique to itself. Yeah so i'm gonna put you on a spot who is your americana favor. You're wearing a nitty gritty. Yeah i'm wearing nitty gritty dirt band. Each has yeah. I i always liked those guys and again i think they were not recognized the way they should have been. So yeah if you were to ask me and you just said You know. I'd i'd have to include the top three which to me were the dirt band. Nitty gritty admits pogo and the fine burrito brothers. And so i get you know. And of course the birds but the birds were come lately because they were folk-rockers so yeah nitty gritty bent outgo flying burrito brothers. Not necessarily in that order okay. Seal haven't even mentioned the eagles which they thought template for americans grey says we've he's poco contributed a lot to. Yeah but you know. We're the layers. It's funny richie. Fury says that Jen flock dreamt. Glenn fry told him one time that poco laid the rooch for the eagles were not for pogo. there might not have been the eagles. The eagles were definitive as far as americana commercially at the beginning right. Yeah yeah so a listener nude americana right to get into americana first album. The by what would you tell them. The buy an album by band that we really not even mentioned. And maybe that is be banned. Pick up the self. Titled album called the ban the brown album. You know or music from big pink. Either one of those. I think would be. You're launching point. Although when you talk about van you could also talk about. Bob dylan nashville skyline suffocates. You know but. I think the band's Have all the elements that laid back rural Workmen's sound of admit to the grateful. Dead either work. You mentioned dead but no i. Haven't i would stick with the band on self titled album by the band or music from big pink as as your best stepping stone to go some a little bit further. I think that's a good. That's a good entry point right there. Alright lis zimmerman. Thank you very much and listeners. Don't forget to go to the mine store and pick up. Pick up the book at dot gold. Mine bag dot com. It's called the americana music subtitled voices. Visionaries and pioneers of an honest. Sound bite lease zimmerman and everyone pick up. Don't forget to pick up gold mine and book a you go to books. A million or barnes and noble. Pick up the latest issue and go to goldmine mag dot com for extra content. Or at lea-. We'll talk to you soon. Thank you had the best editor ever. Thank you for that plug. You're the best rider ever after. All back at you are man. I'll talk to you soon. thanks pat.
Former Rangers Defenseman Brad Park, Foghat Drummer Roger Earl
"The views expressed in the following program. Do not necessarily represent those of the staff management owners have w gb from the w. gb studios in new york there new york. Good evening. and hello again. Everybody welcome to sports. Talk new york on w. g. b. b. here in long island new york bill donahue here taking uses the first hour in the sunday night the twenty fifth day of april twenty twenty one our engineer. Brian graves is with us as always he's right across the way. Got a great show lined up for you tonight up. I will talk to the great defenceman hockey hall of famer brad. Park in the second half will change gears totally and welcome in the longtime drummer for five cat. Fellow long islander. Roger also just sit back. Relax enjoy sports talk. Twelve sportstalk new york. I'm still not used to that folks. i'm sorry on. Wgn gb we got some great people some great stories up ahead our first guest. He was a defense. Many played the nhl for the rangers. The bruins the red wings always considered one of the best defenseman of his generation Played in the shadow of the great. Bobby your who was briefly is teammate. By the way elected to the hockey hall of fame in one thousand nine hundred eighty eight and the twenty seventeen. He was named one of the one hundred greatest. Nhl players in history. He's a hero of my youth when you're in the street with the orange my leg ball Playing street hockey. I was fred park but was that orange bowl. Hits you man that thing hurt by the way the real pleasure and honor to welcome to the show. Tonight brad park brad. Good evening here. Bill are you. Oh it's great great to have you with us now brad. I wanna start off by telling you. My dad used to take me over to skate. Land over new hyde park to watch practices and one day. It was a catholic school holiday so there were no other kids around. And i tell you. It was like shooting fish in a barrel. I got all you guys on my little note pad that i carried with me. I knew everybody's face from pouring over the blue book. I got the cat. The gag line. Stemmer ervin bruce fairbairn walter. Chew the the chief ceiling russo mcgregor any and gills and. I'll never forget that day. Remember the days it's caitlyn. Oh only we're when i again. That's where the rangers practice jalis until a number a number of years later we moved back to long beach but scaling was a and interesting rank because it wasn't the best ice now it was a little bumping wavier times and the boards. Were always perpendicular. Voi- yeah it wasn't a a new facility. That's for sure brad. I remember that now. Who are your sports heroes back when you were a kid brad. Well i kinda grew up. I grew up in toronto. Maple leafs fan and you'll growing up in the fifty s is like tear kennedy and I just play with syl apps. Junior father's a great player for the the leafs captain the leafs But during the sixties is probably watching guys. Like dave mckean on tim. Horton carl ryan stewart. Who's the rangers. When i am watching him so You know i was kinda releasing growing up. Gotcha yeah and rightfully so now. You became the rangers best defenseman. You drew a lot of comparisons as we said with bobby. Your both. you guys really revolutionized the offensive defencemen. How how would you describe your style of playing de. Well i think my style is basically based on three guys That i saw jerry. You're a junior draw. One was kim. Gordon who would love the park. Can he. a deep in order to make a good pass Governing bobby von. Who is such a hard nose clean you hit and then i love. Jc trombley for the montreal canadiens. Who is a magician with the puck. So those are is it. I watch and learn some. And when i got new york. Yeah he'll francis. Was good enough when i started to jump into the rush of not pulling me back and you have to remember. I was essential until the last fifteen years old. I was forward interesting. Okay now in seventy two. John retell breaks his ankle. You leave the team Against the defending champs the montreal canadians in the first round of the playoffs you that was the year you go to the finals and you lost to boston and you finished runner up for the norris trophy that year. Tell us about that. Making it to the stanley cup finals that year. Well i think you know in the early sixties. The bruins rangers were the two worst teams in the league. And by the time we got the late sixties and starting around nineteen seventy when we became the two best teams right in the national hockey league and the new york foster rivalry was at its peak. You know because you heard the red sox the yankees the nixon. The celtics so The bruins and the rangers Disliked each other tremendously still getting into the finals against boston. Lear with something that You know we crave for and we got there. You know we'll we'll ready for yeah and As you say. Brad great rivals with with the boston bruins with jani buzek. Of course or johnny pie mckenzie. Derek sanderson that they had their own guys like you did and Matched up pretty. Well now i wanna ask you about the seventy two summit series now or wasn't able to play. He was injured. So you come up as a key contributor to team canada's series over the soviet you're Mvp in the deciding game mate and your name. The best defense of the series. How was it playing against the soviets. You know the interesting thing was you know we didn't know how good they were. and They kinda cottage flat-footed because they were in midseason form and we weren't in midseason form so as the series developed You know were in canada. We only won one game lost two and tied one and then we went back for four games in moscow and it was during the the cold war right and they were. They weren't rushing soviets and We lost game tribe and we ended up having to win the last three games in order to win the series which we did and we scored the winning goal in the last game. With thirty seconds to go so The thing was that that proved to the nhl europeans could play and compete at the level right. That that's sure did now. I wanna talk to you. Were speaking with the great brad park by the way tonight on sportstalk new york now. A- after the seventy five seventy six season the rangers not not having much success. They decide to unload some of their veterans. So they send you along with genre and joe zanussi to the bruins a real blockbuster deal at that time and esposito and cal vadnais come to the rangers. How did you feel about going up to boston at that time. Bread well versing did Was when i thought it was a deal. I cried because you know i was ranger. Truancy true and You know i broke in with the rangers. I was the captain of the time. I was probably the highest paid guy I was in my crime. I was twenty seven years old and never imagined that i would get trade and go to the bruins. Who is you. Know like an arch nemesis. It was such a shock and You know i said down in the course of the day of You know the trade happening I said there and i got mad. She you know. I'm gonna prove rangers wrong and i think genre telling. I did very good job of doing that. Moving it a bad deal for the rangers right you. I certainly did you. You had some great years along with john For the bruins you turned out to be great bruins amo francis Ended up getting fired eventually. during this period and You really took over the mantle of the leadership on boston from or and Who who is injury-plagued at the time and he he could soon leave he went to chicago. I believe that yet the blackhawks now you. You had great success under don cherry. Didn't you bread. Yeah don was very fun guy to play for You know he was very demanding and the one thing. You didn't do a gone cherries. She didn't go to corner and throw snow. You went there and he punished. And we've probably had the biggest toughest meanest team in the national hockey league at that time and i sure learned how to kill penalties. How would you compare the styles of ammo frances To don cherry bread. Why they don cherry was probably the best motivator game in game out that ever seen. Most coach i ever played for was in francis in that. You know We would have Go into a game. We'd have tree breakouts lays we'd have three four check systems and we could. We would end up changing on the bench in the middle of a period. We never had to go into the dressing room. To make a change we can make a change on on the fly That was something that i'd never seen before. But that's how well trained and disciplined. We were under a meal right. A great coach aimo francis. Now don cherry actually told you to concentrate on your defense and not to worry about the end to end rushing right. Well you come to me and said look at. I don't know if you looked at our defense. But i got to play your ass off and With that in mind. I don't need you running up the ice on all the russia's so when you get to the third period tired when i need you to control are happy with senator rice and if you control are half and sound right if we're in the third period with ten minutes ago and we're tied over hind you have a green light to go and i don. If you're gonna play my ass off. I will agree to that. Stayed back and save back and make sure our half of the ice taken care of and we'll get the puck to the forwards and deal. Were down ten this to go. I'm i'm taking off. I'm going right and and he did a great job with that. Now when you first got to boston though brad you pretty unpopular with the fans right because you you were an enemy yeah. I was I used to get a police escort to and from the man with the rangers. Oh boy and that. I i read a story that you got a flat tire. One time and he hitchhiked a ride from two guys You ran out of gas. I think it was and he gave him free tickets to the next home game right. Well yeah a matter of fact that my wife jo van and and By the carnage fun out of the garden. I honey there's no gas in the car. there's enough. I know there's gas there's enough so i okay. We go home and we didn't make it and it was a snowstorm and I'm standing outside the car you know in the social star and we're outta gas and the ice combined hit like a flag them down and so we need to write a have gas and i have heard her parents. We're and they gave us a writer. Think like give me your name. Give me your phone number. And with the bruins. And i'm gonna make sure you guys have tickets to the next game. And that's what they nice nice story got brad park with us tonight on the program. Now i wanna talk to you about the what. Brad you had a chance to jump there. They they're offering everybody boatloads a cash. Why did you choose to stay in the nhl. Well i was about three hours from going. Wow a meeting with francis. And i told him i have going to cleveland next warning and You know in order to keep me you're going to have to come to this number and He said well. I don't wanna do it. But i will talk to bill jennings. Who is the president of the rangers and Ended up kong drove home. He called me about an hour an hour and a half later and said okay. We gotta deal and The next morning i called. Cleveland told them or wasn't coming and They up to deal substantially. And i said no. I'm not coming if you're why not give him on my work end up sharing new york. Good story good story. Yeah the they were up and coming. I think the team in new york was the raiders if i remember correctly and In cleveland was the barons was it. The barons have gone almost going there three hours from semitic boy in seventy seven seventy eight. You're a key contributor to the bruins Back to back appearances in the stanley cup finals. You lost to the canadians both times and friends wanted me to ask you really about the eighty three playoffs when you scored that game winning goal over time I think you beat the buffalo sabres. Do you remember that goal brad. Yeah it was a game seven right and aging we had to do. We were down and to going into buffalo for game six and we ended up winning that game and we got to game seven in the gardens and works We're losing to one we take it up to two in the second period to their stay. Nobody knows nobody remembers that. I got the tying goal in that game right and we went into overtime. We had a face off in their end. Very peterson was a centerman. At a great habit of winning the bat straight through his legs back and came back and made a shot blocked and then get the puck kim spinning out and everybody was now because they tried to block the first shot and i just cranked it and hit the center of the net about football. The the crossbar and that was the winning goal in overtime. Great goal definitely. Yeah now ray bork was coming up towards the end of your your time. Boston wasn't he ray-ban. Good drought came into the bruins. Nineteen seventy-nine right. Nine thousand nine hundred ninety nine and I think he stayed there to eighty three of not sure. But you went on to play with the red wings for a while. brad. I think you sign. There is a free agent and you won the bill masterton trophy over there now for folks that may not know the bill masterton trophy trophy is for perseverance in the game of hockey and you must have been pretty proud of that bread. Yeah i was. There was a couple of reasons number one first of all going back with report. His mentor for first. Four years until they went to detroit and I was kinda getting phased and not getting the time i wanted in boston. And detroit offered me an opportunity and some security for my family and detroit hadn't made the playoffs in seven years and they hadn't made it back to back in seventeen years and the two years i was there. We made the playoffs so Making the playoffs. Those two years in detroit and winning the masters was a pretty good way to finish my career. Pretty good definitely brad. I was just received a text from somebody that From my buddy gary alvin. The cleveland team was the crusaders into whyy. For some reason. I was thinking the barons and that was Another time another place for our team did end up there right after. We're speaking arc tonight on the program of all the guys you played with my mentioned a bunch of them at the open of the program. Brad who would you consider your best teammate Probably two guys One was a waller. Chew toy volkan with right You know in nineteen sixty eight We broke in together with the best friends to this day. We still stay in touch on a regular basis and raj you there to kind of took me under his wing and it shows me exactly how to be a professional in what it took and how to deal with the nine. The press with the public and You know. I didn't make sure you took care of yourself before. Four game right and fellow hall of famer to great ranger. Roger bear now. We spoke a little bit about cherry. We spoke a little bit about the cat. Aima francis who's who's the best coach you plate for bread any one of the most interesting guys that i played for was harry senate. Okay forming teams into seventy two I played corum them. He took over the bruins team and You know nineteen seventy nine And even though we were playoff bound. And what i liked about harry was behind the bench. he was a great motivator. He was very good system wise so he kinda covered the ground of don cherry in the middle francis but he was great at talking on the bench through the game and he would be there and he the guys on the ice The guys in the couldn't hear them maybe he'll pick them up. Pick him up. Second guy second guy you know move it now moving now and basically. He was calling out what he wanted to happen on the game. But for the benefit of the guys that were on the bench sitting in front of them so they knew what he wanted winning wide and i thought that was up an unbelievable great techniques or you know telling the the guy sitting there how he wanted to play one they got out there right a great point. Brad definitely harry sinden. I'd forgotten all about him. Another hall of famer now in eighty eight. Brad you make it into the hall of fame and tronto your hometown Would you have to say that. That was your greatest memory Three year career. I think well. I think it was the topper to my hockey career I think when. I look at things now. Hockey was part of my life but the ongoing thing in my life is You know i'm married to the same woman for fifty years. And i have five kids and i have seven grandkids. And that's the the biggest part of my life today and this the biggest part that i enjoy wonderful. Yeah great brad. Great way to end our talk. And i just wanna tell you Play play the man. The great bookie wrote i think it was back in seventy one. I read the heck out of that when i was a kid too. I had to pay for back. That's the book folks. You could look it up brad. Park play the man written Along with the hockey maven himself. Stan fischler i've had him on the program brad. What a great hockey mind stan. Fischler you sends the aggravates hockey relating you know from on the ice off the ice and a lot of respect for san was going each other over the years and i did that diarrhea with them. i wrote a book bobby. Five six years ago it was called straight shooter and Where i really kinda talk the truth above my career but the one we stand was a day to day diary To one of the toughest periods of my life being a holdout to not signing a contract to what was happening on the i six cetera et cetera. And actually got me a lot of trouble with the boston bruins in their fans And i was willing enough to You know stand up for what he said during that book. Who has the better fan spread. This may get you in trouble to new yorker boston you know. I love them both You know in new york. Let's put it this way. When i walked into mashes walk into boston gardens There was a every game. And i mean every and soon as you walk into the bottom into the building when you walked into the building just knew you just said yourself. You're gonna be a hootenanny tonight. i'm going to enjoy. Every minute of it. And i can honestly say i did too great meccas of hockey definitely brad. It's been an honor and a pleasure having you with us tonight. Brad i thank you for taking time out of you sunday evening to spend some with us down here in new york. I wish all the best to you your family and thanks again for being with us. You take care youtube. That's brad. park is gentlemen up next on sports. Talk new york. We'll speak with the long time drummer for fog cat. We'll take a slow ride with roger earl folks stick around. You're listening just sports talk in new york to every sunday night at eight. Pm on long island wg b. broadcasting on ninety five point nine fm and twelve forty am or listen live online at gp radio dot com stay connected sports dot new york on wgn by following us on facebook twitter and instagram gb sports. You're listening to sportstalk new york on long island w gp now back to the show. We are back. We're back with sportstalk new york on w. gb and we are in beautiful downtown merrick. Long island Looking back that was some performance to on friday night games like that. When you're a met fan of few and far far between the the mets and with the following game they lift you up only to slam you to the concrete. The next day like they did saturday. Nice win today though. And we'll take it and the red sox coming in. let's switch gears. Now keep the memories rolling along our next guest drummer best known as a member of fog hat a founding member along with guitarist and vocalist lonesome dave guitarist rod price and bassist tony. Stevens roger is the only member featured in everyone what happened. We lost him. All right. we're going to. We have a dial tone folks. At least we have that. We're going to try to get roger back with us brian's trying fervently to do that right now and As i said we're switching gears tonight as we do every once in a while and I think he's got him online. And we'll get rock and rollers on how we doing brian. Okay let's let's welcome in roger earl to the show roger. Good evening how are you sir. I'm good man. Yeah we're hanging in there. We're wearing american We're trying to survive over here. You know now. I wanted to you. Aki level is down a little bit. Oh yeah we we got you fine. Yeah no worries somebody bill. That's me. that's me roger. Yeah bill how are you doing. We're doing good. I i wanted to ask you. Roger born in hampton court. Now that's near m- my i m my favorite of the royal palaces. Were you a friend of cardinal wolsey by any chance Now sometimes people have mentioned that. I was very close to being oldest But now i see it was it was just down the road from hampton court where i was born in high school. The best did jewish memorial hospital. My mom it was directly. After i was born in forty six right. She said the people were just wonderful. My other two brothers were born during the war. That wasn't much fun. Now as i remember raja they used to be a pub right across the street from the palace called the cardinal wolsey. The you know. If that's still there now you know. I'm a new yorker. Now right i don't have anything to do with the royal. Was anybody good for you. Roger yeah kings and queens. No doubt now. We're celebrating fifty years of fog hat this year. Now you are still banging away like our friend liberty. Devito says all drummers never die they just keep on banging right roger something along what do you think about that darling. I'm talking to the life now. Go ahead trump jobless dot just keep banging right. She says wash my mouth out. Okay now you were. You were in a musical family. Your dad played piano and he played in local pubs. There was always music in your house. Right roger yeah Both my parents came from the east end. They were ways nosy for having a good time. A lot of great musicians skype in that area. That wasn't professional piano client that he will play weekend actually when when he was very young. my on is Youngest sister told us that in fact he was actually joined A jet fan when he was like fourteen or fifteen years old I didn't know anything about that Actually my father was a panel visa. He worked When i was growing up he worked to ask the mock and and their old workshop in felsen which is about for three or four miles away from where we actually live near He's apple which was a coast. Three tiny back then Not supply the anna and it was all white music in the house. We will probably one of the first people have breakfast pliers We had to grunted tightly colder. We would call south of the tv we had a big projection tv that would sign up with feddie. Small house one side of the ball would have this projection. Tv so there was always music here. Nine fat my father took me much. I real Concert when i was twelve years old took me to see jerry lewis nine. My mother said i was never the same after that. How did she added his right. Yes thank my mom and dad at great parents says she river. They were terrific. Who early influences on the drums. Roger actually say fontes cli- muddy waters. Baby allen's is done muddy waters live at the new for justice for nineteen sixty one Who else The the jumbo. Who played on little. Richard's band was fantastic drama from trial. Pomme freddie was played on or the early chess records with a muddy waters. Chuck berry three already for me about the music Yeah i mean It was actually when i was about i on nine was The money with featured By the rich and other people. And i just go hoops on it but I wasn't up to that level Buddy rich was Special as being crew You know i could listen to those things actually attempting to sort of be like that Music for me. Blues arm being music jazz May need proves in rock and roll. That's what i grew up listening to. Gotcha now tell us a little bit about roger you and lonesome dave your with savoy brown and you left to form fog hat. What what brought that on. Tell us about the birth of fog cat. Well actually. I'm still good friends with tim. Simmons Who is devoid brown In fact we we've done dice together. He actually played on studio album Under the influence You played on two or three tracks in fact we're working people. I told the guys in the band did the other day. We're going to work on another new studio album. We have own studio down into florida into land florida's in the middle of nowhere. Sure yeah outside of orlando. Yeah yeah that's right And the rest of the guys live in florida so I like down there in the winter. Snow bird He'll be working on a new album. Kim simmons hopefully. We'll probably play on some of the tracks with us and like get well we hold on a second need some wine. Now you moved from england to the north shore. You've been out here since one thousand nine hundred seventy three You're an avid fisherman. Roger aren't you. I think therefore i am right actually Last year with the covid nightmare here. We did allah show in las vegas. The golden nugget is in march. I think and we came home. You know everything. Shut down it was. It was pretty weird And i got hung the guy. What do i do now. So a you know turned over the garden you know. Got my fishing rods ready. And i'm freaking out the back door because i live on the sound of an easter tolkien. And i'm i'm catching attention. He's Bluefish last year campus. More you know the little ones early on in the air but could not group fish lost. You just drivers kinda strange. 'cause bluefish for like always there. In fact we like in the seventies the seventies and eighties striped bass almost disappeared Didn't catch one bluefish last year. I don't know if anybody else knows you that there were many bluefish around medium that good of fishermen anymore he gotta check debate roger. I guess you got you got examined. That and i i use the by. Sometimes you know got out there could chunk of bunker on and they were the sandwich and the butler wine All right try fish. I use lewis mostly I like casting for something to do knows it's sort of. You know you can especially around here in the basin south-east a lot of fun right First time i actually caught a fish a blue fish was i can sixty eight or sixty nine. I met our fast manager. Tonio teeter out here on long island. He was working supporting the to the savoy obama's on came to frenzy comes out my parents house out in rossi point and You can catch blues blue fish and The first one i called. I was about six or seven. Pounds earned my side routine line of my real and i said she's fun. Yeah love to catch. Do you remember. Roger the The air i guess late seventies early eighties when Local bands were were really big on long island. There was to ease out by you there and isa talk at stony brook. Do you remember any of the long island bands from that era. We're see Did i to me is my local hanging out. In fact i just spoke with joe bazire who was One of the managers of trees remained good friends with him. He was a manager for for a while Then and as one band. I remember the they used to planting says unites the two weeks. And if i wasn't on the road i would be down there right then in fact They're still around they. We played out here a couple of years ago in summer out here and and they used to pull good day banned in fact right then yeah they still they still have a couple of the original guys. I've seen him recently about the good. Rats jolly good back many times. Great bed right. Then drummer giovinco. We're speaking of the great roger l. tonight on the program now Talk about the loss of of Dave lonesome dave what he what he meant to fog hat and the loss of lonesome. Dave dave was Confused this bad news. Basically he was the one who come up with tunes and stuff but he was the main rice the David david i left To boy brown Tony stevens was the baseball by with similar ground at the on fired but he joined fog saving. I just decided to leave. was Pretty much hard solidly span as came up with the ideas of doing all the songs We use them mind riser One of the things i loved about dykes was even many brazil. He was always out supplying when you went on stage. You didn't have to worry about being. They're not doing his heart. He was away banned in. You know when the four of us going say it was full people. It wasn't just you know. Elite singer is backed up. it was a band. it still is today And that's the one thing. I really enjoy about trying. A making music It has to be a van for me anyway. and you know you. Shed responsibilities and dave was beautiful. He was always ready to fly away down ten percents and even when he was He had a kidney cancer He still gave everything he had allotted for that. Yeah great loss for sure. Roger fog has always been known as a band the tours relentlessly. You guys are out on the road so much until the covid crap hit now. Tell us why you guys love to tour. I'm one of the most. I'm one of the fortunate few on this planet. They get doing a decent living something. I love doing right or not already worked for me. Actually this somebody that we had off. Thanks to kogo good night. Damn i said tallapiedra. Say this is weird. I'm really a good time because you know it was just myself and my wife linda. Everybody else couldn't come here. Even the kids wouldn't come out of and it was the first time i might add a summer off since i was twelve years out. I was always working applying right and I had a great time I would go fishing work in the garden. Ride my bike. 'cause wolves it was I oh my stock getting lazy. Yeah i enjoyed it but yet I love what we already done. One this year We did a show out to see no in michigan Normally the venue host over two thousand people but they reduced it to six hundred and fifty. Just it'd be i t's or whatever and we. We went down to the studio down in florida for two weeks. We rehearse Two days three days off rehearse daiei at capital days off. We have spondike just to get back into it. I mean i played regularly. I've i've practice every every day every other night It was great. Everybody was Chomping at the bit to come back and play I find a great band. Great musicians With with friends as well it's alps band. Sounds good now. Your brother colin he. He joins in occasionally doesn't he. Yeah not anymore today because you're going to be working on a new studio album and there was a song he'd written number years ago and I told you about it. And i said you wanna come over and play piano. And he said no he had a stroke Four or five years of missed his right hand his right. Hand up those Yeah that was rather said the covy night that he couldn't come over here and see us That you can't do much england. Marvin is on lockdown smile doors. There's there my granddaughter. And i said it's still pretty bad there. Now's the the hits. That fog had has had throughout the years. Roger who who wrote those last dave Which credited writing most of the When he came to arranging and whatever we get it was always a band thing We were white and and produce. Probably nick jameson should have got credit for writing So ride certainly And a few other in. but it was The the right everything played everything. But david the main liver. He wrote the lyrics. Gotcha okay now. I wrote stomas law actually. Of course you did Yeah i i did it ever if there is any lyrics with references because daguin told them they didn't drive over the rising He said can we put in there. rajini about you know to that driving so i remember from my grandfather which was Stir the sticks and My grandfather will would always i tell my father to give it the gun. Goes 'cause saucer. Obviously with. But i remember that from when i was a kid be sitting on in the front seat with my grandfather. I was speaking with the great roger. Earl faulk hat tonight on the program now. there's a project you guys have called eight days on the road. You recorded that. At daryl's house people may not know that's The club owned by dow hall. It's up in pauling. New york near brewster did Daryl join you at any point. No oh okay now. I haven't i haven't had the pleasure. Legion darrell i. It makes me guy. Records has a great voice to sure that what happened. Was we doing like a four day. Ronn a sprinter with 'cause no maybe fly everywhere And my Brother-in-law driver and also Part time He does everything i said could could without We were supposed to play in the cs off there but through the noise issues so they they weren't doing anymore shows then and we said well Somewhere else to find they they. The people who have earned over involve without house club. I said you wanna play that. Normally you got thousand six. Yeah we got there and they have a fantastic recording studio and we said okay. If we recorded that night we didn't know gonna be recording and It turned out great still still and we filmed it so we have a dvd a. We always making vital as well which would be a sample Vinyl 'cause i think this about now and thirty five forty minutes something like that and we were Turned out great. The sound is fantastic and Yeah i was really proud of. I really enjoyed it with guns. Did with the outworked scouring fan. I think she just finished it yesterday. The out work incentive off. As should be relief i believe she likes sixteen For the cd and the dvd. And i think the vinyl will either be released at the same time or a month later. So yeah that's coming out this year. Two thousand seems like it right. Roger hundred thousand editor right now we. We spoke a little earlier. Roger about wine and you guys have become involved with the wind business You have what's called fox had sellers on. that's why yeah rogers imbibing. We speak here Actually wine was probably a ways Heads beverage of choice. I think That we didn't buy with others. We tried everything was out there Now one what happened was we we back in. Nineteen ninety some somewhere around there. No nineteen remember anyway. We played to sell out shows at the california state south and winemaking by the night the seeds in houston this and he said And after we played there he sent an email to out management said. Would you be interested in making one. So i started giggling and said yeah so that that was a beautiful friendship and you guys are involved in in really every aspect. You pick the grapes. He designed the labels right. Yeah yeah we didn't just one as you know like Or whatever Now we leonard. I went down there as to actually the only ask grapes and wines comes from the central coast of california and and we went out there after we told to see breath museum lender. I went out there. Steve took us around the vineyard awesome. He he works with User has to mobile buckling unit. So he goes up and down the west coast butler and other people's lines so he was very involved with just about everybody out there. They were you who he was and We spent a spend about a week or two out there with and then and then we did I wine which was Two thousand five. Kevin i seven. We may fifty cases. They when i've got one case less and that was something and then the Produced a two thousand and ten Pino and two thousand ten shot i Which in fact we actually made and now we just have two thousand and thirteen pinot noir. Two thousand fourteen shot night. I something monterey county we have two thousand twelve. Cabernet sauvignon one case western. I'm teaching atta boy. Yeah we have we. We've wanted to go out there last year because it was impossible so would probably not make any more until As i want to. I want to concentrate on playing this year but probably next year will start looking to make another one One nice okay. Roger will we thank you for being with us tonight. That's roger earl from fog hat tip. Thanks for taking time out of your sunday night out there. Yeah we're normally sports once in a while. I branch out and bring on a rocker though flow. Okay we're talking about sports. Well we got about two minutes. Who who who do you support. Roger donavan team in london arsenal and also a yankee fan. So that that's enough of that. You know for two with me roger now. I'm a liverpool supporter and a met fan. So we live acoustic acoustical. When i was growing up my grandfather supposed- tottenham hotspur my father supposed- west hand because he came from these to london and my older brother. Call-in for years older than me to pull docile so it was pretty interesting and the l. house. oh boy i'm alongside off no fan and downey sitting in london. That did all right roger. I wanna wish you happy birthday to coming up in may and Thanks for being with us. It would depend tokens you villain thank you very much. Take you to raja's roger o. From fog had folks. That'll do it for me tonight on sports. Talk new york. I'd like to thank my guest. Brad park and roger earl. My engineer brian graves. Of course you guys for joining us. Cnx may ninth with the great rod. Karoo and the new york post. Mike puma till then be safety. 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52 - SIX The Musical: Brittney Mack, "Anna of Cleves"
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But hp instant knows when you're printer is running low and sends you new cartridges. So you never have to think about amc. Save up to fifty percent. You'll pay less than five dollars a month for inc and never run out again. Find out if your printer is eligible and enroll today at hp instant inc dot com conditions apply for details visit hp dot com slash instant inc spotify. My name's brittany mac. I am currently. Playing anna of cleves in the broadway. Show six the musical amazing. We're so excited to have you. This is our second episode in our six series. And i'm just going to repeat for you and for all of our listeners. What our central question is that. We're focusing these episodes. On what role does history play in the storytelling of six. That uses the history. Mix as a device. When i'm really excited for in this episode in particular. Is that a lot of what we do on page two stages highlighting folks in the industry that we often don't hear from and most of the time those aren't like principal actors on broadway. We hear from them pretty often. You're the first person to join us on. Page two stage to discuss the process of playing a principal role in a broadway show. And what. I find interesting about sixes storytelling. Is that you guys. All take turns being individuals in the spotlight and then also work seamlessly as a non sambol. So i'm wondering if you could just jump in and speak about what you did to prepare for the audition for six and how to stand out as that individual but also speak to if they had you guys read together for anything to match chemistry first of all. Thank you guys for having me. I'm really excited to be here. Thank you so much. The short of it as i didn't know anything about the show coming into the process. I had no idea what the show was. Who wrote it why they dated in why. It was important to be perfectly honest. I did a generals. I came in for the general call for chicago. Shakespeare theater i am from chicago. Warner is on the south side. And so i was. It was the eighth and last edition of the day. And so i just went in for the wizard of oz i was like. Yes i know the choreographer. I'm a shoo-in less go and i was going to get much going on. But then they kept asking me to kate singing and then was like you know you do. The thing is as an actor. You go and they audition room. You'd be like dude that nailed it and they'll like anything else. And i'm just like i'm sorry. What because i just now that. So that's kind of how i felt. And then i kept seeing in insane. They wanted to hear different genres and different things for me. It was a very interesting. I mean my book is very fast. So i was like all right. Go like but that was turning into a concert. And i feel like i should be getting So it was a little bizarre by the time we get to callback with sheet music. I i was like get what get down get down wear what is this instill hadn't had the i literally on so smart. You know. I don't know. I had no idea that like what this monster was. How it was what it was or anything like that so that to say by the time i get a get down. An i got callback material for. Don't lose your head. I was kind of like okay. Dear siri google I need to know what the what the so by the time we get to that. I saw the concert that they did at the edinburgh fringe. And i was like okay. So it's just a bunch of really dope chick singing a song okay. That was literally all the information i had. Was these like very regular looking women. Singing something about henry and you knew it was based on the history now. No were you familiar with the story of henry. The eighth from like little tutors and stuff like that from the tutors literally. That's it and i mean. We knew about amblin belt. Yes i know enough history to know but the concept is not like anything you've ever imagined right and so i was like. Oh this is kind of cute. This is a big deal. Okay let me just ask spotify. And then i saw the music on there. And i was like i'm not listening to it. I don't wanna do it. Was there a reason why you chose specifically not to listen to the music it because automatically you're like subconsciously influenced right and so i listened to everyone else is all the other songs and so i was but you still really don't really know what the show is and i say that now on the other side of it right la la back to say we get the final call backs and i'm looking around like way i'm in final club x. Half these broadway women. What's happening here right. So you've got like john hicks. You got ano- szalay you guy you know catherine's oh god what is that other jazz. Everybody everybody on aunties was there Everybody and so it was what was cool. Was a situation was incredible. If you recall back for angolan all the ambulance win together. If you will call back for you all the planes went in together so that was not listening at the door like Are they going down. No you don't just see and we'll see how creative you are right so mind you. We sang last so going into these. Call backs doing this stuff. I never forget seeing andrea mac saying. Don't lose your head. Am baby when i tell you this. I bought her heels. Were like the height of her legs. Okay and i was like come on. Quads let's go cavs. Serve me to what's about to happen here so as you know all. The music has backgrounds boo. Who's and all of that stuff so as the waiting queens of the ladies in waiting as these women waiting for our turn if you would We would each other's back and i will never forget. Andrew went up there. And when i tell you she did the doggone thing i was like literally she saying you got out of because i'm a professional but i couldn't help it. I could not help. Like that's how good it was. And she was just like she transformed. It was incredible and then he came out. And i was like i wanna saying i don't wanna say and All that to say so i went. I went up and did my my ambulance thing then. Anna please came in. You know. I it starts with you know sitting here all alone right and so everyone was like man. A chair might use a chair. Here's the thing we had just danced for like. I don't know what felt like thirty seven hours. I labeled like britney. Do you wanna chair. I said no. Because if i sit down i'm not getting back up and i was dead serious in those other words that came out of my mouth. They laughed hysterically and said okay. And then we're in rehearsals so here we are like it was kind of a blur like that. It was about building each other encouragement. It was about the illusion that the theater community gives off. That's what it was it was about. We there's this allusion ride that. I'll theater people. All are the same. Because that's why they're all theater people in they all love. Each other in love is love and all of this stuff and it's really not right. There's a lot of tension in our cast of theater folk and so but for once for once in my entire history of being on stage which is a long time. I was in the room with so there wasn't any side sas. You couldn't do that either. You were there to support each other as women as human beings or not and or or of course other things like you. Weren't they looking for all these different things right. So then what was interesting was i. I remember thinking we were all sitting there like. Could you believe that that just happened. It was like it was crazy it written. I remember i mean. I'm sitting next to adriana hits across from andrew mccarthy i'm diana from anna zella little did we know we would be working together but it was this understanding that like that was really cool in. Thank you for your support and thank you for your support and you better you better and you better because we were all in the same room so you couldn't do anything but really just like hype each other up. It gave you the energy. The room was there for you. Even if the title was weird behind the table right but having this group of women they're like girls. Listen if you don't get it if we don't get it they don't get it. Let's go and that's what was special about this entire process doing that. You knew whatever the show was whether you knew about it or not that it was gonna be magical and like that's what the show is about to was even more magical exactly like oh i ha- and toby never toby said honestly brittany. I knew that. I wanted to work with you after andrea saying when she sang and you were rooting for her like that. And you didn't really care about the rest of the room or what anyone thought and it was so genuine. He said i was like oh. Where's she from david like. She's from chicago by love it so you know i was like oh 'cause you wanna know what people think of you in the room. What was that a little too much. Whatever it's just who you are is enough. I think that's so powerful to that. I that you were all in the rooms and the first thing as you were talking the i came mind was the energy must have been like unreal bananas. Affable what we saw on stage in march twenty twenty I was going to say was that. I think what you just said about how. It's not always your talent. It's it's it can be about your your energy that you're giving off and your personality. I think that is crucial for anyone knocked us young people in the industry anyone street to learn from because this is such a small community and we only get where we are from the people around us. You know what i mean. I love that. I love that so i wanted to just talk briefly. So we talked with kevin in our last episode kevin mccollum about the the taurine of it. All of all the different venues that you guys ended a plane at prior to landing on broadway so you were performing the same show you where you had the same blocking. I'm assuming and choreography for all the different stops along way. What was it like that. And the different venues. It was very different right. It's like going on a tour. I got a tan to join like the memphis tour. Jeez louise to lifetimes ago. And i'll never forget. You know what that experience was picking up a show in putting it in different venues is not the same show right spacing may be different and For those of you who have seen the show. You're aware of this like epic. Openning kabuki thing fabric thing that hangs that blows in the wind and kabuki is like literally the seven coin. Okay like she has her own way of operating she do hang girl. She temperamental today. So so even with jeff dealing with that just the first aspect of the show or spacing or different things that was very different also chicago shakes because we did the show in the yard It i mean you're talking straight vertical straight up all the way up and a year just like okay so then to go to somewhere like a rt where it's a little more straight out. Then you go to you know We went to the citadel. Your standard proscenium up now we. It was a lot of differences in variables that we have to consider because it is very much so like going to a regular concert so we want to connect with everyone in that is a part of our blocking. That was the other thing we casting understanding what this show is. That is not about a fourth wall. There is no wall. We're there to tell our stories to you and it's the competition made the best story win. I'm just gonna say i always win. But that's neither here nor there guys it's not about competition it's about love in loving each other and support so we so so so the different been used kind of makes you it challenges you in a way that engaging doesn't become stale right and so to engage means to really invest in shift your focus and things like that. I didn't get a chance to go to ordway. was one of the largest houses that The queen's got to play on because i was injured so that was an experience that i didn't really get to hab but nicole nicole lambert. She is everything on legs. And she got a chance to cover cleaves For the entire run of the show at the ordway and she just knocked out the park until talking to her about it she was like girl. Listen and my gosh. But it's nice to have even for her to be able to have that experience to be able to play because she also went on in every city as well. I'm not an actor. I'm not a performer. I i have so much respect for actors and all that they do one of the one of them being the energy that you have to give off. I mean about obviously playing in the same house eight times week but also having to play different size houses over the course of a year or so That you feel pressured to give off more energy for a larger house or adjust your performance based on the energy that you're reading or do you always feel like it's like a hundred and fifty thousand percent all the time speaking for myself Regardless to how. I'm feeling sick. Not sick came toes injured because i have been injured since chicago. So even at aarp in even at the citadel i was you know you just make it happen Because then you find out you're on the show. That's on his way to broadway so you you know all that actor insecurity starts to again unfortunately how some never no. I'm not speaking directly for myself. I'm not a person that can do less than what i do. I just kind of do my thing to be honest with you. I blackout and then i come to And so and so even not feeling well or whatever you know. These are my sisters that i'm sharing the stage with so i get my energy from them and if they're doing their thing i can't help but if i'm supposed to be your backup right or your support then i gotta support i can't be like do shoddy and i'm just like market in the background right in so that in that is the show itself. The momentum of the show depends on support in. That's one thing when you are there to support someone you have to be there hundred percent. Don't be there at all right. And so that's literally what this show is. Set up to do to pull out that. Like real supportive person. That that i think we all should be win. The time comes right and so the songs go through so many different emotional roller coaster that depending on where we are that day you know women who low at time month Breakup family all of this stuff. We need it right and so it becomes that so you really. Can't you the universal you in my opinion anyone. Any actor striving anything to be a part of the six umbrella. There's no way to like half ass at all if you take us back to when you first got cast as your queen. What were the first steps that you took in terms of actually like delving in doing research or did you just want to wait until you got in the room with everybody and with the directors and creative team when i first got cast. I was in new york city on eighth avenue on my way to dig in after my call backs for savor it. Listen after my craw back for the jc s tour. I got the confirmation that like they were going another direction. I was like love that going to eat on my way. I got an email. That was like congratulations than i collapse. Like right in front of food emporiums fifty kind right there. collapsed ministry. And i was with my frankin and he was like if you don't get out of the street and i was laughing. He said what happened. I said look six now again. Not knowing this was going abroad by. But but i remember i remember being like this like this whatever. This goes whatever this does that. Y'all i'm so psyched. Right because the swagger of the song itself puts you in a mindset rather you knew who she was or not a what she was going to be right. If this is her solo. I was live outside chicago day. I could do that. that's fine. I didn't do anything kind of just get it in my system. I listened to six on loop. And i've listened to him one one of and so i can tell the show so i remember going into rehearsals and we. I'm looking at everybody. We all looked at each other like that because we were incredibly blown away by by being a part of this project and then i remember. We did like a like a little table. Read if you would kind of walk talk through spoke through the songs as much as we thought we knew. And i i was like he'll this is so cool. This is just so cool. So i liked going in blind that that was not an issue for me because then i was able to kind of put. My stamp on khushi was To me right who. She is in america who she is telling this story. Our show is actually very different than the west end. The language is different. They'll say like in. Don't lose your head when he was. She goes may just shut up. I wouldn't be such a. You could get that so she goes. I think in our so she goes bro. You know what i mean like. It's still slight little biddy things those little nuances that make it. The western cast that may be american cast right And and certain options and things that we do vocally so head. Believe that had i dove into the world of six i would not have not had the mental space to create whatever i wanted her to be you know. I think it's harder to unpack a bags to pack a bag like that. So yeah i like that did you. 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We're like fresh out of cambridge like you like they are still students. They're like yeah with just graduated yesterday. He guys honestly. I'm so we're going to do a project like we were legit doing projects and it was like i want to go. I want you to find out. Like what animal your queen with the if she was an animal like we didn't roller precisely. What did you choose for for your character. I'll add can remember. i do remember. I do remember that the question was like if you're clean was like a seasoning. What would she be. And i remember saying that cleaves his kumon or cumin depending on how you want to say because human is the that special flavor in taco seasoning that people love so much but they don't really know what it is and then like what kathy tacos are so bad right. but it's expecting about the seasoning but Kumon cumin if not how you saying. Is that very special ingredient that people use for tacos in everybody loves tacos at what you wanna put in vegetables a -tarian hanley -tarian air retiree in vegetate. Whatever terry you wanna be. Everybody loves tacos. So i was by classes. Is the secret sauce in tacos and everyone loves by the time. The show is over whether you know her story or not. That is a great question. To ask actors would love seasoning. Many seasonings is enough to make you kill some kind of way but yeah because you guys were doing it in the states you change some of the language and things about americanizing it. A little bit How much of the process was your own. And you're version of the of leaves a lot a lot of it in a lot more than i thought it was funny because there was one point where they were like we were so tired and more so at the point of giving them what they want that they were like okay guys so we need those incredible women that we cast. We need to come back. We need to like come back to these characters in like all we wanted to do is just put this low jacket on right. The objective is to tell the story. Tell their story as yourself but in so so so the goal is right. The difficult part. Is you wanna become these coins right but realize is you can't really become the the queen without having the rest of them. All of their stories are so intertwined you learn that like you know and She lived. She outlived all of the queen's even though even though it said that catherine parr was the survivor Yeah ok sure your girl remind history would tell us that anna cleaves outlived everyone and so that she was there at at queen elizabeth's ambulance daughter queen elizabeth's coronation. That she was there like her. Catherine howard actually you know may or may not have had a thing and or just was like the best of friends or both but that they were very close right and so So it's it's very interesting that once you come see the show and you start to see the relationships that we as actors have with each other. It's important to have that because these women actually did have relationships they knew each other catherine of aragon You know the first queen and ambling. They knew who each other were. She was like oh yuda yuda half asleep in with my husband. I just speaking on. She was like yeah. I'm her who check me. Nobody swerves right and so it was just as interesting. Everyone knew each other all so it wasn't a secret so that relationship with each other having the history of all made it that much easier to connect made it that much easier to bring these women to life. The learning the history of it was just too just so we could resurrect them if you would. The lazarus effect gave them life but new life because we're retelling their stories from their perspective. They're all the history tells us is from king georgia's are a king. Henry's perspective right and a bunch of male perspective. Even what they look like. It's from whose perspective hans holbein so At dishing look like that. And all you know where. They porcelain in stunning. Yeah okay but did they really look like that or was that his perspective so casting wise to have a black girl from the south side of chicago with my locks right my natural hair to play german queen who actually existed toby. Lucy light they are so far ahead of their time. But not really because. Why aren't we doing that now. Anyway so it's very interesting that that their concept isn't new concept at all. She's kind of what it should be right. The story telling of it that learning the history allows us to tell the story of these women with that much more clarity in that much more conviction. So if i'm saying you know. Henry you said that 'cause i didn't look like my profile picture so then we're talking about you know the pressures of looks you know something that fades that men women that all of us deal with right so that's when it starts to kind of tap into what we all deal with. Why are these things that we are still dealing with now like all of these things. It's it's fucking brilliant. It's brilliant but learn. The history of it allows us to tell it with that much more conviction and clarity. Yeah i mean when when we saw it right before the shutdown. I didn't know. I mean i knew of in berlin but i didn't really any detail any other queens and i did not no i did not listen to the music beforehand. I did not know what i was getting myself. In wheel excite. You know like. I don't even remember. We sat somewhere in the orchestra. I'm good house seats your we. Did we really ready you not ready. I everyone around me was very well like they were so ready with the the the thing. That didn't surprise me. But the thing that i like still kept with me after we left was the fact that these the things that each of the queens were talking about are still relatable. They're still you know like what you were saying about. The looks like it's genius. They were able to take something like a portrait. But then like you know associated with like dating apps or swipe right. And i was like what like us. It's incredible and then and then it's like you hear so on the out on the recording. It's like house opole bind seems to come out of nowhere right but then when you watch the show dislike shit up it. Does it furthers the story so far ahead and then it's like oh wait battle. The connection of this one man gave us the visual perspective of all of these women. And if you look at the portrait that he did our do all the women not really kind of look alike you know and so what. What was that about right. And so it kinda it. It's mind boggling. When you think of that when you just think of the writing itself how clever it is. It's clever intriguing. And we were we were at the i think we at the citadel and there was a we had a q. and a. afterward and audience member. He was german and he was like are any of you gemini. I was like nah. I know yoga black germans. But i'm not black german. Sorry my bad. And he was like because Accidents were could end. We cracked up. We bat it was so funny. Because we i mean when i tell you we worked on it and i'm still working on it you know and it. It's one of those things where to get those like little doses little affirmations in little things like okay. Keep joins not easy. It is not easy i took. I took it for five years. And i couldn't tell you anything i learned like. I don't even know what's happening. I'm just like what. Say it won't time in my left ear. Because i can't win right. I don't know what's happening. So it's it's a good. It's one of those things where we had our work cut out for us. And you don't think that in this low seventy five minute little by you know nonstop top to bottom. Let's go you know. I'm just like there's no bright bright we don't leave the state in so what i like about it is. There's no letter of the story because the things that these women went through there was no let up in the time. Line right it's just like bam bam bam bam bam. Henry was just wow lynn. Wiling out just woman after woman after woman sir. What you know you deserve these also stripping so you talk about this show like this big marathon because it truly is. I'm wondering as an actor and maybe this has been different with other shows versus six. But once you're up and running at performing the show do you typically continue to train voice lessons dance acting classes or just consider the show as jim. I think it depends. I am very much so an athlete to my core. So i have to run or do some type of like additional cardio if you would not because i'm a perfectionist by any means but simply because the show is just gonna kinda you're gonna peak right you're gonna just kinda come to a point physically especially if you're using it for that Also this show And i'm just speaking for myself. Vocally is challenging and knock is challenging. Because it's very low for me. I am a soprano all day long. I surprise so you know my like all was like to be the first black galindo goal was but that's okay britney jace be the first full time this episode is brought to you by made. Well ready to step up your denim game. The experts at made well us premium fabric and the latest denim technology to make super comfy. Never wanna take them off genes in fits and styles for everyone but kind of jeans. You'll reach for again and again get twenty dollars off your online jeans. Purchased by using code spotify twenty at made well dot com terms apply lease see made well dot com slash promos for full offer details but nobody really know but because glenn does not a real so It's one of those things that it's one of those. I just if i had some tea. I would have select but i don't have any but it's one of those things that Vocally i do have to continue to work on myself to keep my stretch that i do have that worked so art or and maintain my top. Because i'm so on the bottom and middle. I'm like in the cellar with the wine like that is low so yeah i mean the wine is good so i'm fine but it's gonna be so good for your top though because they say if you i mean you got up there yes. It's nice because i've never had this much range in my bottom. It's still. It's still hard to find the resonance of it all. So that's what we're working on now in marrying my speaking voice to my singing voice. So we're figuring that out in in the middle of it all but it's fun it's fun that's really interesting especially because it was you know you gotta think about people's like singing voices versus their speaking voices That it's really interesting especially like when you talk about how it was first written. And did they change any for anybody. Was it like that kind of guy. When i say that it's completely like i guess the only difference is we didn't originate the show here right. That's how different is embarrassing. Nuances in things that we have done a little playing bits and stuff that are just true to us as people like me like me and sam sam is like my so system so we just like we screw around on stage. Okay if it really is just like guys. Are you going to work today. We're just like get out of here. Work will work in so but we're not. Which is goofing around. So there's this big we do indulge your head. Think it in one of the one of the saw nope nope. Where is it drop. Yes and don't lose your head. And i grabbed her ponytail recently. When the west end open back up. I saw a photo of them doing the same thing that we were doing. And i was like now who which money i went over there and tell them that that's what we was doing. Y'all thought he was funny But it's it that right. It's it's that whole thing. Also that only goes so long. I just wanna touch it all the time like. Let's be we wanna howard ponytail just to like twirl around But so yeah so so. It's really cool to to be able to have. Our shows are are definitely individual. I think independent of each other same show. Yes sure but independent culturally independent vocally because my get down as whole is a half set is perhaps that is raised. A half step in ben. there's some other little surprises in there. You know andrea takes the option at the end of the lose your head. You know. Abby mueller like don't even be bothered with i there's not enough time to talk about. What makes her song her own So it's it's it's that you know The remix there are certain things in the show. That are just very different. That we've changed. You know it will broadway blowups. Right we get to broadway in is just by so now ya this where we. We're just like what what we shock ourselves. You know. yeah love that too. When did you guys find out that you were going to be coming back There was no shadow of a doubt from our creative team at all so we knew when we when the shutdown happened it was like. Don't worry we'll be back. And we stood on that we as in broadway and we as an hour show. Oj not to be like over cocky about it but yeah no no. No i love that. And i have heard kevin say that before and i love kevin had said last week that or last episode that that the other musicals that are opening are going to let you guys. Have as it should be your. They're going to be the first musical open. Backup officially in terms of you know new musicals which i love and i was hoping that was going to be the case Because you guys definitely deserve it So do you know any any point of like Cleveland how to broach this. Because it's so it's new to all of us have like. How do we get back into the swing of things like we're going to have to go back to rehearsals do. Do you know what that process is shaping out to be. You know to be honest. It's one of those things that in kevin words wonderfully well. It's one of those things that we're all kind of waiting on bated breath because it can change every day right and and you know from the production side making sure that fourteen unions are satisfied happy and not just to please the unions but to please the people who are you know our employees associated with these unions right into make sure that everyone feels safe coming back so i will tell you as far as as far as i know four six broadway. The first thing that we are looking forward to is to come back in just check in with each other. That's the first thing we're doing Yeah we were. We have to sit down and we're just like so hi. My name is brittany I will be playing to reintroduced right because the fact of the matter is we don't know each other. We really don't you know in into to meet each other on the ground level of out crazy but like humanity. Yeah i mean it's like bazaar the concept but To to to come together as human beings and be like. Hey what's up. So how are you feeling had people In in under the six umbrella lose family. During these times i have you And and so. We're not going to be the same people with the same. You're talking however many thousand dollars of debt in back rent. Hey my name's brittany like this is just real factual things right. The affects that this last year has had not to mention. You know the the murder of brianna. Taylor that is still i know in limbo for whatever reason That conviction in george floyd and all of those things that it and everything else that happened as as as we went on through this year and not just black people not just people of color but everyone everyone in i. We had a meeting. And i was like i just need to just address the ptsd in the room. Because it's gonna be a thing and we never know when that's gonna strike right. We never know when because glenda is up there singing. I couldn't be happy. You're right there a kind of sort of cost. Like oh my god that hits a little differently after a global pandemic then it before right and you know it we've experienced so much that people kinda don't experience emotionally in a lifetime so for six in those of us under the six umbrella you know we are coming back with. Kevin says a backpack full of grace. You know understanding and not just infancy and and not just sympathy but wanting to literally have the lens of let me put on your lens real quick. Let me try actually try. We will never fully understand what each other has been through. I will never fully understand what it means to be. A white male producer on broadway that page that like money is just who and you're just like what what the responsibility that that is right so i think perspective is what's been missing in this entire thing and so now that we're coming back. We have an opportunity to use perspective as the floor to kinda start to take these steps forward I like to say. Move forward to broadway as opposed to come back to broadway because what was back. We should leave it back. There was a little bit of a hot mess. But if we move forward to a new broadway right to new light than we could actually be that community that people think we are in i. It's not abracadabra right. It's not bobby Is is is not you know. Kazaa but Active it can still be active in. That's all people wanna see. That's all our asian brothers and sisters. Wanna see active towards their safety. That's all black and brown. People want to see more of us because we know they're there but like can we just for a second right We just wanna see it. Activate button go and then keep forward movement and momentum. And i think i think coming back to broadway that that concept i think there are. There's weights in baggage that comes with that but if we move forward and we can kind of leave that stuff where it is You know pack rather than unpack right pack a pack of grace understanding and a fresh new perspective of the effects that this is going to have on people and that it may hit at any given time in that you know we just need each other. We really do. So i think. I think moving forward to broadway in having those things. That's what i'm excited for. I'm excited to be the to actually be a part of the broadway that as a kid. We thought it was the magic you know the seasons we genuinely we all thought like all we all hug each other in stand on stage and hold hands. Like that's what we thought. Broadway was knocked. The business isn't what it is not that all in all of the things right so but that's where perspective i think comes from a little grace for either side in order to actually have a conversation move forward so i'm excited about that ramizi. Thank you me. Thank you for sharing all that. When i that to my mind to that we've been very patient waiting for the last you know year plus but i think what i have certainly have forgotten. Is that once we get to the to the openings again. There's going to be a little more patients. That's going to have to ride on and i just that i have to keep reminding myself you know patients is going to have to keep you know. Keep us moving through as well. So i love moving forward to is is perfect and that's a great mindset to be an. Yeah it's it's like a campaign start that campaign. Mary should we move into our we all of our episodes with like a little lightning round. And it's just like quick little things that you don't have to worry. You don't have to say it fast. It's we're not timing. You were just not going to like respond very much to the to the answers. We're just gonna say them You're gonna answer them. Hopefully some people like it stunned in there like like stunned by the fact that we say lightning and they're like i can't even answer this i can't i'm like low key like all of a sudden i gas. I don't really know what that was like. I'm very excited. So it's gonna be great. You're gonna do great. It's going to be giving the first question is what is one thing in the theater industry that confuses you what a producers so Britney's has said that she hasn't listened to our episode with kevin mccollum camping even though i even sat with him. And he's like yeah pretty. So and what i love about kevin that he's very transparent right and he's like you know and he he speaks for those who don't understand my in layman's terms right and i love that i listen. I'm sitting here. I just did the things i but i don't. It doesn't mean. Mary worked for a producer. And i have we've had three producers on the podcast now and i still almost don't know what they do still get it like getting pregnant. Yeah because everybody's different but that's that's what it is every every and because we had a general manager actually we had a couple people on who were like every show is a startup business. You're gonna have a damn boss everywhere you go. It's good they're going to run that business differently. So i feel like it's just that mindset that we just never gonna get it. I think brian it's not car. Okay thank you. Okay okay lightning. I'm sorry i didn't mean plan. What are three adjectives that describe your ideal working environment. Okay turn up on professional a s and just like just like one hundred. Is there something about your process that you find unique to you in any show that i in. I have this thing where. I'm when i'm on my way to the theater and or Soon as i get off whatever transportation on train bus whatever car. I call my mom. And there's i think there's a comfort to talking to her. She's like you add the data so with every like everybody in the space talks to her and it's not like she's like some little cute little little black lady. Mom is but issue just like the cutest bang. You've ever seen it. everybody would be like. Hey well and i'm just like she's mine so i talked to my mom and believe it or not. It serves as warm up for boys way better than sinking. Ever doing a bunch of scales or buzzing whatever-ever could so yeah. I love that okay. What is one job in the theater industry that you would trade jobs with for one week casting. What is the impossible dream role of yours. That might not actually be impossible. Impossible i would love to okay. I would love to either play or in the heights was the first show on broadway for free. Somebody paid for me to go. Which was insane. thank you donna in john from missouri. So i would love to have played snobby or i would love to play a jimmy in thoroughly modern millie. Who needs to happen. Okay what is one hobby. You have outside of theater. I cracked and refinish furniture. That i knew. Do you have any books or resources that you find helpful to you. And your process guided meditation to sleep and books i read. I read my bible a lot. In addition to my bible also have like the four elements book and so they are a bunch of different. My mom. I am a believer but my mom is braced to be very well rounded religions and so You know my mom told me who taught me who route. Paul was when i was like. I don't know you know. She was like watched this movie and asked rupaul. Let's talk about drag queens. Let's talk about what it means to be gay. You know things like that. So i have this this journal book thing that i've kind of kept through my life that when i'm feeling that i don't know who i a little less grounded as back and it's like things. Emma has told me over time. My grandma friends people that i've worked with just like little quotes and little things and know people give those clothes in might cards They are lying in that. So it's not necessarily a scrapbook but it's just one of those things to kind of help you bring you back to earth. Remind you who you are right. It's very lion king of me. Not that i'm thinking about but it gives me that That groundedness and also i mean joe lean. She's not a book. Or a podcast or anything. But my pup joe lane. She's the best. Oh i love that name. But it's endurable name for talking about the dolly parton song i was like when julian. It really really grants me guys. You know something about being a home wrecking hussy really just brings it all home for me. No no magog okay. So our final question is what's your favorite part of the development process of a new show. Rehearsals always always always always because rehearsals people pull out all the stops and it's it's the go bigger. Go home part of the process and you get to really see what people are like. Like their artistry from the inside out and there was no like big is a little used in rehearsals. Everybody's just kind of like and then you're so wild by people's artistry right like somebody does something you'd be like this song i prayed you and it's just like e your dislike what does happen or someone's do just like oh my god you're really funny at thank you for being funny. So it's it's the rehearsal process. You really get to see who people are which is nice me. Thank you so much for coming on here. Can you just tell everybody where to find you on social media that. Oh my gosh yes. Please find me on instagram. Only at brit. Mac b. r. I t. t. mac mac k. And the number eight in from there. I have my workshop page which is how to slay you. How to slay h. O. w. to the l. slate s. l. a. y. In the letter. You is my workshop series where we focused solely on growing our youth artists from the inside out in. So that's really fun too. So i mean instagram. Say hey greens in. I'll put all that information in description notes as well for anyone who wants to check that out. Thank you so much. Thanks everyone for listening to this episode. Page to stage to keep up with us. You can find us on instagram and facebook at page to stage. Podcast if you enjoyed this conversation we have other episodes with feeder makers from six musical. Check them out until next time. That's brian that's mary. We'll see later. Hi i'm jamie at. I'm the owner of your new favourite. Lgbtq bar the flame. You're at the flame everyone's family and just like a family when things get tough band together. 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51 - SIX The Musical: Kevin McCollum, Producer
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This episode is part of our series on six the musical in this series we uncover the process behind the musical through our central question. What role does history play in the storytelling of six show. That uses the history mix device. We hope you enjoyed this episode. Welcome back to our brand new mini series. Everybody on the next several episodes that you that you'll be hearing from us over the course of the next few months or so. We'll be focused around six musical on which will be making his broadway debut as probably reopened in the fall of twenty twenty one which we're very excited about as we mentioned in our last episode episode fifty six is actually the last show that brandon i saw before the broadway shut down. It was a few days before their opening night. We had such a blast. Especially after chatting with elisa omen at broadway con earlier last year and so we focusing this miniseries on one central question which is what role does history play in the storytelling of six. A show that uses history mix as a device. And so we're thrilled to welcome. Kevin mccollum here. Who is the producer for the broadway production of six and several others including Mrs doubtfire which is also coming back to broadway this fall And then rent in the heights. Many many more so kevin if you wouldn't mind just introducing yourself and sharing what your title is on the production of six to talk to you mary. I come colo juicer. Six broadway and That's my title When i do a little more complicated going producer does So i tried to do that. Well i guess is all about that against all odds. But i'm very honored to be part of the family and just wondering if you can give everybody just a little background on how you got involved with six. I did have some history across the pond before you joined. Well i heard about it. Because i was co-producing with kenny wax and bentley the play the role and should have brought over a number of years ago it on broadway and actually it's still playing off broadway and it was also affected by the shutdown The other should be coming back. Announced yet is also. That was wrong back at that stage. I can't move because kenny Told me about this. Show working on that In london was quite ready for broadway. Thought but i would be interested in. It's about sort of the lives of heavy weights but it's temporary is new writers and knew i was him riders might shrew rent avenue. Q heights writers. How familiar were you with the history before seeing the shower start starting to work on it as a well educated american. I knew nothing really pretty well educated. I actually knew. Of course you know all of a all. I didn't know the names of everyone. I know i knew then You know our and and i knew of some i didn't i didn't really appreciate the events. And the order. Were specificity of who these women history were and what they represented also reformation in other things in our western culture. I took about a year and a half for me to go over there. Because i was busy producing here and working. Kenny goes wrong. And i read a little bit about it and slice. Come over and see this. And he was coming into the arts theatre for the first time and so i flew over primarily just to see the show i watched it and i immediately was struck that this was a broadway show and i will say because i live and breathe broadway of for close to thirty years now as producer but i was an acura before i kind of love the scope of the epic nature of it and also the amount of accessibility and i thought the music was terrific and i was also someone who's used to new formats. Having done rent avenue q two shows people said. Why are you taking that for broadway. That's out rodway show and i my linebacker. Usually as it might not be a broadway show. Broadway shows the show that captures the public's imagine so that's my requirement Show is captured my imagination. So you were able to identify immediately that it was it could be an it was fit to be on a broadway stage despite other producers attached to the project. Who weren't sure if it was right. I don't want to say that. I'm smarter than anyone on this. Because i'm not. We all kind of have to go by. I had a lot of experience on broadway. So i felt the dna was ripe for broadway british partners. You know they produced with me on broadway. Any but andy farms in shown groggily. George stiles wonderful composer news producer in the three of them came together and said kevin. We'd like you to shepherd this america for us and your partner. And i was you know thrilled and i felt responsibility very seriously but parties i think they they. They chose me. Because i was the only person who approached them was that i did have a vision for it to be over. I think it was intriguing to them. But it wasn't necessarily We'd have to so therefore as all collaborations. We may have been of a compromise. Which was terrific. Where we decided a known. Chris and rick who ran regardless shakes and i had also gone to high school. Anderson who interview annoy was The executive director. And it's been the exact record. Basically suzuki again arbor and i basically said okay. Let's go to chicago. Shakes anton right right the cyclone there and i had really good experience at love. That's eaters and it. Also you know what i love about. It also takes place on a peer. Its place for tourists. go so we We made an arrangement to go to Chicago shakes to an audition in chicago audition into our in. And i said if we go there could be time than a broadway theater because they were pretty full off at the time but i felt confident if we opened it in this country would be much later. brought but they were appropriately. You know saying well. Let's see but the thing. I did convince them not zoos. Don't go to church basement and do it very small. we have to. we have to come in chicago. Shakes has seven hundred seats and they were doing it in london in three hundred and forty cd tonight said we really can't afford the talent need in if we if we that small in america so that was just part of the translation of different ways producing between the two comments so when you first signed on as the producer with six or as a producer with sex. What were some of your first steps. I mean next to find enough deciding on chicago and obviously getting to cast or their conversations where you're meeting with the writers or are you talking with potential investors. And how are you balancing your relationship as broadway producer with some of these co producers from the uk. The first thing i did obviously as the producers i had a few meals together Talk about who's already been attached who who's contractually attached and who they think is right for the show and a very soon after that i. I met writers and just learned a lot from toby. Lucy end cheney record with Junior armitage and lucy moss. Toby and i was just very very taken by have only smart. They were but how they wanted this show to And they were very aware of you know that this was a female driven story even before they wrote it before to before anything that sometimes the stories powerful females from alive and not only today but but throughout history. And i really. I was raised by a single mom. Losing amazing personal. You know a lot my strength from her and she passed away when i was fourteen. So i've been defined by kind of his orphan mentality where i've had to kind of make our way and i love how they approached their sedate created and it wasn't about. Well we want you money. We may Wasn't that shouli about process speaking of your podcast about kind of generosity of spirit in humanity that they wanted their show that have in so much learned a lot about how they audition. It's not like thank you very much time. They bring in groups of of women who who they're looking to be there queens and they used to shrimp -nology everyone cleaned Before even became sort of hearing that everywhere they were using traumatology in words. You no matter especially when you're a storyteller wives theater they matter politics do but people don't realize how much they ever So that's one of the things about theater is that reminded albertson stroke so They had that ethic. That exciting is very very bright defied their age because they truly will wise people and they're really excited and would say wondered that most exciting things that i found about your career is that you have made a name out of yourself. Really working with new writers and new creative teams and bringing them to broadway and having them make their broadway debut curious dating back to even just rent as being the for the earlier that comes to mind immediately. What what have you learned along the way about bringing on new and potentially but other people might call greener Creative teams as they're making their broadway debut. What have you learned a lot about that process. Well it's hard to be a generalization because they're all amazing wonderful people but johnson being the first of larson rat That experience great. He he was seems a time stubborn super smart and losing him on the final dress rehearsal before we run the openness show broadway instilled with me also a sense of purpose that i have to be an advocate for young writers because jonathan was trying to get people to help there are established and be for each paths. And i believe in him. I did check in the zero workshop. And i ended up looking business. You know i still have it. But at the time i was working full-time and booking shows and sell it to cincinnati outs and it was doing quite well and but i really wasn't. Actor was a songwriter in college. And at this show just excited me. So i was also Time so i felt. I should just do whatever that. And let's see what happens and and i was very excited Pass i was like okay. I got to be that person who will be unsolicited. That script and take a chance on the director who done a great reduction important but never in on broadway and whether it's director or writer. I am very proud. And even producers like doesn't know even less goose ribs but they give me a piece of material or sheriff he's era will be. I ended up producing it. I always make sure that. I it isn ru is. They're interested in being mentored producer dodge. So it's my ethic. haven't worked mentality. Even though my mom died did with my people. They had two daughters boats in yards. Marcy iceberg there assist in the writer rebuttal so It's interesting that hassle at will created a lot of people who are storytellers. But it's important to make. And i continue to. Do you know i i was doubtfire. Is is a show by show before because i needed John farrell was southie rob and they were top of glass. There other professions wayne was a songwriter carried brilliant screenwriter john screenwriter at an office but the number of use felt so upbringing teams together. Because everything is fresh. Anything is possible. There's not as an agent saying you you're talking to this has to happen krieger. It's just getting the room Fled because that's why it's after that initial When you guys jumped over to the states with six ended the north american tour. When you're looking for a house for it to be on broadway. Can you talk about those discussions behind the scenes. I mean we always hear about shows like just trying to get into a house in like. That's the reason why they can't make it to broadway on time. And it's all about certain timing. Was that one of your main responsibilities in your role as a producer on this production. I think I think my hers probably the author simple. That's my job. Yes but that's not the most important. I'm a great believer that you blow his gets here. If the show captures the imagination. And i knew the show i knew i was right in your always a little worried. Because if you're not worry you don't understand you know the risk reward ratios art of your skill to now with signs are I this show. That opened a great show right cyclo that opened it. Mcc previewing the night trump length. It going what are shows about. The election of trump created a great all over our audience and the show seemed very different than anytime before so so world events can fact the mood and attitude on audience shows about and I remember being at first reading. My daughter is north western as time and she's not graduated as we so graduate of western but she came with and jews twenty time ever maybe nineteen and After the show is over like the first preview she just turns and and not in her head and said this is gonna be after she saw so once. I once a at that time. Fifty seven year old man in a nineteen year old female Both have the same feeling about a show. That's a pretty good indication. We're doing the right. That and at that time jeff shake started the run with five hundred seats because they have forty an audience the biggest smaller and what kind of shows it was very flexible By the time we closed we add at every possible which was seven hundred seventeen. I think we went from a six week. Run to a thirteen run. So sometimes you'll extend one or two weeks usually don't run by the time that was done nuclear we have. We had a path rodway. So i say like the third week of chicago i was already discussions of what rob i and when you do that. There there's a myth about broadway theatre set oestrus are kicking other producers out. But that's only what happens. Every show has stopped laws. Meaning if you do under a certain amount of business with theater abroad we can ask you to leave as you're not living up how much you know you should earn nasty but most theater owners my experience it in very benevolent about that were they say look at. I never want a shout. I know how hard it is to keep running a lot of times The orange might say. Hey you ought about closing the end of the year and if you do maybe we'll give you a break on the red so no Our next thing and so those conversations were starving. People realize in six was gonna come in some way because it was just been captured. The public machination away. We just couldn't keep up the thing about musicals for me. i mean. I'm up as a brand in any town. We shop around. I love just one balcony or mezzanine two levels you can say orchestra. I just like that sidelines. All kinds of things so i was pretty clear i wanted to levels and i know i felt should be sized rent in the end. The needle lander had twelve hundred seats. So i was looking into that eleven hundred twelve hundred theater in the one that was available because waitress. It decided that you know what they think. They're going to run until the end of the year and a little bit of that ear people's nineteen twenty the nfl. At the end of that. It made sense we come and twenty years. Twelve day vincent zero. It was cleared out strike leader for. I will say on the journey. I'll tell you sizes so odd. Shapes seven hundred seventeen will be then hit book the same time we booked chicago just because the nowhere go and the summer is a hard time to find a theater. And i felt it was gonna be a broadway theater in the year. That we that we were talking a landscape south broadway So i said look if we can get enough we could probably do working to the summer so we left lots time between chicago and our next bought supposed to be edited so what happened is while in chicago and we knew we were extended it we then got a call from boston we we had another in edmonton waiting for us like in september we were going to have a break between chicago net and we we took the edmonton booking because you know. It's not a big tourist market so doesn't hurt us if we do a national tour later it away and they have a really great in chelsea. They're run well. I was a terrific ring. Were so we'll just have a swing chicago. Nosal another job that another month and a half of an and that would be offered them money. Summer better talent and as a result austin air t call at officer boston for the constitution. Could we swing by is well. I mean i have to ask wings have to pay down. What you typically would pay your basically production. Because i'm not set up that. Because i just working shakes this virtual and so we made arrangements to go there and by the time it oeste a everybody knew it was going to make my micheel chicago but then played edmonton. But i couldn't get into the building or the holidays so the theater. I used to run from ninety nine seven to two recenter apart darts and say paul had a holiday slot and i knew how valuable those holidays. Slots were soda. There's a lot of snow beat side and it's a great market and one that i hope so The ordway center for arts than that. We'll do so. We went from seven hundred than like six hundred a day. Rt to then like seven fifty in atlanta and then the ordway. We did three weeks in nineteen hundred seat here. And i gotta say all. Those theaters were great but the nineteen hundred seat theater. This bill can offer house anyway. Red velvet gave it so much scope and have the option. I was like it reminded me of rat this joke because the story stronger even though it structured like a concert which still great about it is storytelling is arabic in the stakes are very makes the comedy and also the heartbreak now four point so it was an i learned a lot about the show applied. Those are the broadway which also informed me out show but i learned from watching the show back in march. I didn't i didn't listen to the music beforehand. Didn't really know too much about the show. I was completely blind. Which sometimes my favorite i learned from throughout that you know upfront whether you knew the history or not you knew pretty much in the first like ten minutes how it ends essentially because we all know what happened to them so what made it really fun for me. As an audience member was to watch the journey. They were taking watching the relationships. That historically probably did not happen or historically did not happen but to see how they were. Interacting with each other and how. The story was progressing with them individually but then also as a collective so that there are pirate show does than we all member. Every show is a silent contract may attribute theater that we're gonna refer says it's their story and it's in our obligation for shows. Make sure we tell the story in entertaining way. Otherwise we're gonna lose you marry you're gonna say hi So what we do is is is everyone is complicit in making sure that we have great shared experience and i think what i love about this show and other shows do this rent. Does this directed rest to the audience. Like you know. We'll begin christmas eve being mark and my roommate. Roger we have a similar thing of another show did cross shopper. Since i hate theater immediately you're inside the head of the audience in even in the heights. You know not comes out lights up rush heights of of gotcha slow way. So we're making those contracts in those first moments of the shop and how women enter in what they say to west who they are and we immediately know. They're strong and a lot of stuff going down that they've had and yet they're here with humor and intelligence and an indomitable spirit because they're all in brick in the story yet they are living in a world that is unfair and we see our world who of five hundred years ago to put in perspective. Everything we're dealing with and it's that's where it shows very entertaining but healing process and mary. I think you you understand next. You've seen it. I'm sure your listeners. Haven't seen it even if you listen to the album. It's a very different experience with six powerful things teller store. I love listening to the way you're talking about the storytelling. Because a at least for me. When i think producers i think of a lot of logistics. I think a lot of paperwork and contracts and stuff like that that maybe you're dealing with but i'm wondering if you could pull that back for us and maybe share if there's any part of the creative process that is creative for you as a producer in what you like about it. In that way that might be different. In defy what people might think about producers. i. I looked at myself If i can be to have reception myself because we never lino. Vr others Determined by choose to be with us. But i am very very much about why we are telling the story. There are some things have been offered to me like. You can make a lot of money to unlike. I've never first of all. It would not define me because i don't understand this at yes. I like that stuff but it's it doesn't it doesn't help define me. I am one of the reasons back to what a marriage questions. I like working first time writers. Because i was to discover story I've lost in here one or two songs endure pitch idea like it's about this and i always ask what's your musical book and play as they know musical must have music but also it really has to have pointed view that resonates with a timeline or the time were looking at I'm somebody who anticipates what i have. I e for an our that anticipation is just what i haven't seen i haven't seen in ten years. I didn't White bibles original. Use of white christmas. It was a fifty year old movie at the time my producer but it never been on stage but the reason i did it as i heard according to what they were envisioning they had like a huge twenty piece orchestra. I realized my generation fifty nine. Yes we hadn't done but we'd never heard earlier berlin orchestrate that way it earned relented gone to cabaret and a back beyond rob and when you hear the score a white christmas it was like. Oh there's a reason for it to be done and it wasn't about anything but a misunderstanding about Two people trying to fall in love against all lots and they weren't gonna ever that had the dna I did that. Grant and i think avenue q. I was working out of the time tonight. The marta and identity anna and my kids were also Give or in five at the time. And i also another reason like i wanna do a show that my kids want to that. Could they could go see So you know there's a lot of reasons. Why do shows but i would say the shooting that show on stage justice satisfying because we made it much more the the film in the story a little bit. That's fun advocate. Was we saw with that. Show on embroidery a very early version in the ice right out of college hit written terrific but going on that journey with leeann. Dr in and having that happen is exciting. Drowsy chaperone Think bob in that team really says. Now i'm ready for a sequel. Yeah well. I don't want to say anything. I it's usually. You're obviously are feeling it in the air. There's something really interesting working on that. I hope to talk to you about again but right now against anything so i love going back to what i do. I don't think about the conference. The contract i think about is our contract with lots and i always say You know money's tool people are the destination in a lot of producers cliche. I won't say successful producers it's never about a truly is not eat. You don't take this kind of risks and think. Oh it's because i'm gonna make a lot of money you might. On average there is a twenty percent. Chance might fagor lot better and i think it's because the money at with why am i share out this journey. What is it that i haven't seen before in was it. What is it about the vocabulary story. Kelly as surprise. And that's kind of where. I spend my time because i had the good fortune of being an actor lead with my own I don't think about being the boss as much as having the person to open up the row. Make sure the bathrooms are clean and pupil. Nervous for thank you. Thank you for saying that. Because i think a lot of even our listeners who are listening now might think. What you've said is a cliche producer. I was almost anticipating more of a structured response in terms of. There's a formula to knowing how things are going to work. There's a formula behind what a producer does. But it seems like. I mean you've even just said you see you're you're on your sleeve and you lead with with your passion and i think that's huge as i wanted to point that out for our listeners to go back and read listen to the last five minutes said but i think it's important because i think there's definitely a stereotype around what a producer does and we've i think we've only chatted with one trying to producers now on the podcast and each have all three of you have shared very unique experiences. You know every person's journey is so different as we've learned and as we know But to hear your side of things and how you approach a piece of work and communicate and work with new creative. Teams is is very refreshing. So thank you for sharing that I did want to ask a question about going back a little bit about where we're talking about. The different stops along the way knowing that the show was originated from the west end. It was a very english british story to bring that that the the story in this nursery rhyme over to american audiences Or may not know the full story like you said. At the beginning you may be new at one or two or three of their of the stories from three rhymes And the history of what was that like with educating the audience. That of this brand because it was very successful overseas but then bringing that over was that. Do you think that having the multiple stops before coming into broadway really helped that message across or or was it more or less just showing the people who you know that this is this is a you know a bunch of queens on stage who are celebrating female empowerment. Yeah i think what it did is it. Didn't necessarily i think the people saw a show decided to give our educated But i did something similar that we did in rats when we were still rent. It was very clear. Some of the audience work schumer. Who benny who me was. Benny is in the middle. I stack. he's sort of like a. You know i was with you last night. Roger doesn't now roger stating what happened. Who's who and we don't see orene till midway to act one but we hear about her and a lot of people don't know as inspired alaba well so we actually created a little sharp in the program Sort of organizational charge of mimi marquez. This roger. She needs and marcus. Rogers roommate. Who was dating or rain until she met joanne. So we created eight eight a bit of a chart and up we kind of do the same thing in our program where y you're sitting down. There's no intermission our show so either before the show or acid show oftentimes. It's after because the show surprises you. Now you to figure out what you just saw is so maze in it why we have so much business because kind of show like Over it more and more nuance On it is that we conscious laid out there and say who when they live in you know so again it's not about the history of it's about the execution of storytelling through a contemporary portal. To make history exciting and that's the genius of six on top of just basing. Wonderful graph of how the score so looking forward to broadway's reopening What's one thing that you're looking forward to. After the first performance back principle is not sixes reopening. We haven't opened yet. Cherry showered on the dollar. We have yet to open it. Yes ma'am we are. We are we openness. Interruptus is what we were so we al. We can't wait to open so when we start. We're gonna start our pre. Continue our previews fashion about putting in how you guys are handling like another period of previews you know like i think we're all grateful because again you know these are really talented. Women player wins and but doing the show is a muscle in these are athletes. These are also emotional athletes. You can play a game and being evacuated still. Get a double you now at but really to perform the audience has to believe you. You know what i mean. And they're you know. Talk to the all eric cited. We're getting ready in Getting back in shape and we have to check all connections in the theatre. We made sure that in a theater has remained very very clean it. Since its you know monitored you know once every week by the engineers and we have the costumes out just to be sure there will be. No you know this or anything. We've we've had some damage to some of them that were place which will do as soon as wonderful artisans return scheduled. There's a lot to do. People's feet might his grown differently. Shoes might not be as comfortable as they once were will have to relook at all aso. Were were truly getting back into shape. But we're going to have a nice reversal process in So for freeview will look like we haven't stopped at all when i promise you can be good. You know starting now. There's if these twelve weeks to make that performance dazzle in that'd be uncertainty in our opening night able less of a preview process normally usually four weeks. We only have about two and a half weeks. And the thing. I'm excited about is my colleagues on broadway also really felt for us because our opening night and they know has Nights are still. We are going to be the first opening night A musical for the beginning the beginning of broadway again and so having that place in histories exciting for us as well. Since we're about history. Reluctantly we became part of broadway history by more than just being. Show the cash public snatch nation. We've also become that show that was shuttered on our opening night but yet the community honor that we should be the first showed open or the new sees so. That's i'm very grateful for that. I know we're still many months away in so many things can change so quickly. But what can theatergoers expect from a broadway opening night post cuvette. I think excitement joy. I think theatergoers people who are care enough about each other to accident so that everybody can enter the chamber feeling safe and feel good about making the choice to show up in their communities strangers so they can leave you know an hour and a half to two hours later as a as a connected individuals who company the so. I think that's the power of broadway I am honored to be a part of it and do what i can't to to promote it and create environments for people can form families their odds onstage in in the chamber watching never pieces eater. They wanna watch I think it's going to be a very exciting time. But not just i i just a second. I think we have a renew gratitude. The thing that other human beings give us today life special and you know we've heard a few things about people's bad behavior on airplanes is about theaters. You don't have to go to the theater past against someone you go to the theater because you know it will hampshire life in the journey. Uetake is much more spiritual and emotional so. I don't think we're going to have those issues. But i think hopefully people are going to be even more courteous. Maybe you'll think twice about bringing a whole chicken dinner in your purse and eating during the show i'm looking forward to people keno bit more about that because you're just making the actors hungry Of course. I t's but i i'm hoping we actually get less rude behavior because it's getting a little loud in between technology bull thinking. They can shake their rice or whatever. Quiet moment it's going to be up to the real theater. Gory in lovers. To like educate people on how to reapproach an entrance these rooms with grace and appreciation for everyone the actors will be vaccinated backstage vaccinated. We're doing our part to make people feel safe. And hopefully Goers will follow soon to the you know the tourism looks good as long as we don't have variant anything to knock us our axes by twenty twenty three. We should be very close normal. I think that it's going to be a little tough in. That's why the federal government's help us to get on sog which you shuttered and operational grants which. I worked on very grateful to senators on both thoughts because they knew probably along the street in america and we add so much economy to the communities when you know we could contemplate six weeks or six was even in chicago boston edmonton which isn't america yet and saint paul. So you know it's it's always an Because canadians love humor about themselves as well. So it's it's very exciting future. Broadway theatre broadway tours. I think communities around the world are excited about what is known as the musical for for many many years coming out. I mean. I've heard from talking with some other creatives on other shows that have not yet open to or either in rehearsal process or in preview during previews before the shutdown that they have actually created things have gotten together over zoom of course to make some changes. And i'm wondering since you guys were so close to opening if if there were any changes or any conversations about anything to tweak or alter or add or to reconsider a during the last several months or anything like that happened to the development of the show not really with the show itself obviously are advertised at out on march twelfth. remind people we would show that shuddered. We did it to aren't still was soundtrack. Which has a message All you know we basically because we wards show that aired on our opening night. The ethics of broadway's break all six basically say we were kind of shuttle reminds everybody rob riggle so we used our message. What our show is nathalie about. Try to heal us while we were waiting for a time when we gather against so. We're trying to be assaf as well as an attraction and less with show similar to mrs doubtfire which ends with wonderful message of its longest love. The these shows do offer guidance if you listened to what era wider producing them and and it is about love conquering all They usually have a message to guide to be your north star. And i'm fortunate both doubtfire six had that north star that we all can work with all ready to get the start selling tickets. Think about reopening. But we didn't change the show on six all We changed it a little bit. Coming to america where i was day home. Hopefully i offered some some points of view. But toby and lucy or so smart to do. I just said yeah. That's great it's really also. It's where because i usually start a show from scratch so truly i don't. I might so much producing transmitter producer. Does you also have to know when to age. And when did you get out of the way and be great and there was a lot of that from you. Not only grateful and making sure that i was doing everything i can to give the best odds capture opponents imagination. So we're gonna move into our lightning round and this round it's really just You can take as long as you want. You don't have to answer it in lightning speed. But we're just not going to respond. We're gonna to go from question to question rather quickly. i like. I like brown. What are three adjectives that describe your ideal working environment. Creative passionate comedian. Is there something in your process as a producer that you find unique to you. People think i over talk fair. What is one job in the theater industry that you would trade jobs with for just one week. Conductor haven't gotten that one before what is one hobby you have outside of theater golf juvenile books or resources that you find helpful to you in your process or maybe as you were coming up in the industry. I'm a big fan of gifts. And anything john irving never. What is one thing in the theater industry that can fees you about the theater s confusing questions. I really love that question. Because we i love watching our gas reactions to that question because it really stumps everybody. Here's the problem. Here's the problem at clash. Those of us who have been the theater for as long as i've been in the snap you know without actor by at fifty nine so i've been reforming. I've been a professional Intercepts seventeen sixteen years old. It's a bit of stockholm in so confusing. But you've just yourself in so long at just the way we do it which is why it is so hard really. Explain this business as a business. Anybody who's actually business in any business so we are if the stockholm soon. It's all it's just how we do. It is a broken absolutely. Could it be better. yes will it change. That's the drama theatre. That's a great answer in mary. You wanna ask the final question. Yes okay final question for you. What's your favorite part of the development process of a new show my favorite part of the process of new show development for musical specifically that done some place. Mrs talk about is to sits pro which might meet play music with the orchestra First time orchestra together with actors trade place. It's just match exhilarating bumps thinking about if i went over the first show back amazing but thank you. Thank you my pleasure. Thank you for your ash and then your interest and if any we need to explain what sits probe is i am staff people and that's different than a vulgar pro. God pro you do it from the stage sits pro you. Kind of are outside of the chamber amazing. Well if you just wanna shout out again how can people find you. Are you on any social media for them to follow or the show social media. Here's the thing about me. I've actually never had a facebook page. Twitter page snap crackle or h. I do have a shows in my kids and my wife tells me. And i need to know on it. Gives me more time to heat producing shows. So but my on my shows you know six the musical doubtfire start previewing six on september seventeen. We started previewing doubtfire in october. Twenty one and we're about to ask. Logan start previewing. The goes off broadway minutes to Since we've been allowed to get back into the theater and get show. Well thank you again so much for being the first guest ticket off this series on six out of broadway's reopening your official opening six in october the official opening of sex which will be e. I joke the name of the broadway seats. Thanks everyone for listening to this episode of page to stage to keep up us. You can find us on instagram and facebook at page to stage. Podcast if you enjoyed this conversation we have other episodes with feeder makers from sixth musical. Check them out until next time. That's brian that's mary. We'll see later. I'm jamie i'm the owner of your new favourite. Lgbtq bar the flame you're at the flame everyone's family and just like family when things get tough we band together. 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It was good to see the guys good set from the band doing five songs from their new album in their lives show, which is quite ambitious, but they do good job with it in the band. Sounds killer. They're doing it all real, folks. Tell you what you know. That's a big peeve of my now is bands playing two tracks and whitesnake doing everything real, including all the vocals, I watched a more mop and always going to get props to those folks that are actually being real live rock bands in this day and age of so many others putting stuff on tracks. It's great to see. It's great to hear the artists that actually put in the work and keep rock live the way it should be. And you know, David Coverdale's had some well documented vocal problems in the past. But he does a great job. And he's very smart in that he hired four guys in the band that can all sing really? Well, so that really helps them out and makes for a great sounding show and whitesnake will be out there Torian support of their new album. Flesh and blood which is going to finally be released a week from Friday if you've been waiting on that so thanks to everybody at the hard rock in Hollywood for hosting me. And good to see the white snake guys. Good to see all the fans that I met there. And we had a good time there last Thursday. There's a ton of stuff going on. Who is for me? It's being added constantly the schedules. Getting really crazy. Hope you come out and join me at a variety of the vents that I have coming up. The next would be this Sunday in Encino, California. The ride for Ronnie for the DO cancer fund. So if you're in that area of southern California, please come join us. It is for a great cause raising money in the name of Ronnie, James DO to battle cancer bunch of guest musicians jamming food trucks will start the action around noon, usually get there somewhere around two. We gotta be ended by five because of curfew and the the motorcycle rally part, which you do not have to partake. -ticipant? And if you don't want to that takes place earlier in the morning, so the music and the hang in the park starts around noon and goes till five look forward to seeing everybody there and Sinoe this Sunday. And then Monday, I'll be doing my Sirius XM show trunk nation live from the rainbow once again, six eight PM Pacific time major gas once again, joining us totally free to get into come on down. If you're in southern California for that as well that won't cost you anything. And we have a good time hanging at the rainbow and doing the broadcast the guests. I at the time I'm doing this open have not been announced. So I can announce them. 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Once again looking forward to it with Morial weekend back to Tulsa on June eighth as I host Lynch mob at the ideal ballroom. Great spot in downtown Tulsa host so many shows there. It's a great time hope to see you for the next one Lynch mob June eighth. Tickets are at stub wire. June eighth in Tulsa Lynch mob ideal ballroom, June fifteenth, Miramar, Florida. And the Miramar regional amphitheater rock in the park inveigh, mom steam, doc in lead, afford, quiet, riot and more. July nineteenth. I'm going to be doing some speaking shows. I'll be the Stanhope house Stanhope New Jersey on July nineteenth. Are speaking QNA shows, folks. We have some fun with these hope to see you a lot of you out. It's a fun time. It is not a performance musically of any kind though sometimes they put bans on before. Or after me. It's just some storytelling in Q. A and a little live stump at trunk Stanhope. How Stanhope New Jersey July nineteenth the back bar Janesville, Wisconsin, Wisconsin, July twenty six and the vault music hall New Bedford mass September six and also epicenter. The big music festival headlined by Leonard Skinner d- def Leppard and guns and roses. Many many other bands, Manchester, Tennessee, October eleven twelve thirteen the mega cruise sales after that. Which also be on the cruise headlined by megadeath and then later on this year, November second Dominican Republic. Poon Takaona breathless spun resort. Eighties in the sand. It's all on the homepage. Eddie trunk dot com. Please come down. And join me if you're anywhere near these areas and hope to see you out and about more stuff coming through. And we'll be announced as we go. As always mentioned, all the interviews. You here on the trunk podcast originate on my Sirius XM radio show, which is live Monday through Friday, two to four PM eastern time on channel one. Oh, six volume it replays every night nine to eleven PM eastern. And it's on demand. Anytime you want on the Sirius XM app if you're in the US or Canada, please join me daily on Sirius XM and get the full picture of what I do on a daily basis here on the podcast. You're only getting one or two interviews week. Everybody else around the world, you can't get Sirius XM if you're outside of the US and Canada. But at least give you a little update and little insights on some of the interviews and things that I'm doing on that channel on a daily basis. So two interviews for you this week we start with David Draymond of disturbed who called in from the road on the band's last leg of their tour in support of their new album. Pretty remarkable. What's happened with disturbed? How successful they've become. Headlining arenas now. And I'll be seeing them coming up at Rockland, very soon. So I thought it'd be good opportunity to bring this recent conversation, I had with their lead singer, David dream, and that's up first. And then second and interview with Andy Parker drummer and founding co founding member of UFO one of my all time favorite bands, tragic news in the UFO camp came down couple of weeks ago when their keyboardist rhythm guitarist backing vocalist. Paul Raymond passed away at seventy three due to a heart attack. Any Parker in the only interview I've heard about Paul Raymond's death called into my radio show. Bring you that audio second in the podcast since that interview was done. Just the other day. You have announced a replacement for Paul Raymond on their next run of touring. And I'm very happy to hear it. We'll be Neil Carter who was the guy replaced Paul Raymond when he left you back in nineteen eighty and I think the guy that it makes obsolete most sense for them to have called on. I'm glad he was available. I'm glad they made that decision. He is also a big part of UFO's history and on thrilled with that choice. Look Paul Raymond was one of the classic guys the five classic members of UFO without a doubt. But sadly with him no longer there. I can't think of a better guy. They could've called on. Then Neil Carter who also spent time in Gary Moore's band was a big part of UFO on three studio albums mechanic, mechanic's wild willing and the innocent and making contact record also played bass on for UFO. So a multi instrumentalist returning to help out his former band with the passing of Paul, Raymond? And that was just announced and that as you'll hear in the interview any Parker couldn't reveal who the replacement would be. But since this interview was done. It has been announced that it was indeed it will be Neil Carter who I nudged Andy a little about a little bit about during the interview, you're about to hear saying I thought it would be a great idea if they were to do that. So dreaming followed by any Parker view f. Oh, that's what you got this week on the trunk podcast little bit of a mixed bag to interviews for you. Hope you enjoy. Him. We'll get to them right after this. The Trump gassed. Sixty seconds. That's exactly how long this commercial last. You know, what else you can do in about a minute. You can get an offer for your car with truecar. That's right in the amount of time. It takes to floss your teeth pet. Your dog do few sit ups or just listen to my voice. You can get a true cash offer. Best of all you can do it from your smartphone or home, just go to truecar and simply enter your license plate number and watch. How your car's details? Pop-up answer a few questions and you'll get an accurate true cash offer from a local truecar certified dealer. It's that easy after that you can bring your car in and they'll check it out. And you guys can look over together. You can ask questions you get the answers you need. So there's no surprises then simply leave with your check or trading your car for a new ride. So when you're ready to experience a better way to sell or trade in your car? Check out truecar today. This is the Eddie trunk podcast. Welcome back. Everybody to the trunk podcast coming up in just a few. Andy Parker the current and the founding member original member of one of my most sacred bands. You f o talking about the passing of Paul, Raymond and more. That'll be the second part of the podcast. But first up I bring you this conversation that happened about six weeks ago actually with David Draymond of disturbed who called in from the road. The ban were just getting ready to play some big arenas, including Madison Square Garden. I'll be seeing disturbed when I host Rachael home. And if you weeks out in Pryor, Oklahoma, always fun to talk to Draymond. So let's do it right now. I up on the trunk podcast David dreaming of disturbed David here. How are you brother? How are you my friend? What's going on the usual? Hectic chaos of the road. I assume. Delay of the on the most stellar, and I say that with an extreme amount of sarcasm airline and the entire industry American just from so much not. I fly I fly United exclusively because that's the hard by my home in New Jersey, and I have the same complaints. So I've come to the determination David that they all just suck. They really do. They really. I I I've I've actually been pretty happy with delta lately. But the other two big ones have really kinda gone way. Downhill what are you going to do? What are you gonna do? It's the the the perils of the job running around the country rock in the country rock in the world disturbed with the new album out the latest album is evolution. And man. You guys you just kicking us out there on the road playing arenas play in Madison Square Garden on Monday in New York. You're nice enough to reach out to me about that. Unfortunately, it won't be in town for that. But thank you for that. This has been years. Just last year's just been incredible. For you guys, man. It's gotta feel great. It's been really an amazing amazing experience incredibly blessed. You know, we we've been very fortunate in our career that it's always been very gradual ascent, we really haven't had any serious dips of any guide, which is always nice. And the the the growth that we've witnessed over the course of the past few years has been tremendous. We feel like, you know, we're playing at a level that is unprecedented in our careers. Personally. We're we're really firing on all cylinders, and this this particular tour of our as were specially proud of lot of thought lot of ours. Lot of effort a lot of creative forces involved. A lot of moving parts the most complicated and complex production. We've ever assembled and the longest settling of our careers playing two hours of material. It's been just amazing and the reactions from the crowds, you know, really driving for it. Every single night. Yeah. It is in makes that even more incredible. What's happened with you guys in the last few years is not only the quality of what you've done in the hard work you've put in but anybody will bemoan the standing of rock these days and hard rock and how hard it is to break through. So the fact that you guys have been able to do it against that grain and with that as the backdrop and currently out there, headlining arenas and make no mistake. I tell my audience all the time. There's a difference between going out as a pure Rena headliner going out on a package, and shed tourism. What have you this is really a hell? I mean, it's amazing the business you're doing the buildings you're playing and all of that against this backdrop that we keep hearing about how hard it is for rock music to break through. Well, they're gonna keep on singing that song and dance. Because it's a headline that for whatever reason every once in a while cells and people click on it, and they wanna read about it. And I always so quick to proclaim rock dead. Even you know, some of gentlemen than ladies within our own John quick for claim. Right. And it's it's absolutely the opposite. I mean, we've the the the rock acts that are doing what they're doing. Well, are are continuing to grow and are continuing to develop and the fan base is always been there. And the irony is that if you look at touring exclusively within the rock world, we're a dominant force on a global level. I and in many territories, in fact in most territories we eclipse, the other John, but it's just not one of those. Soundbites seems to sell. Where where is the strongholds for disturbed? We talk about the business. You're doing in America, which is incredible. As I said the garden on Monday night and the the DC center Worcester on twos on Wednesday night. And then you go into Canada and buffalo and all these big buildings in arenas. Where outs? I mean. I know you guys have worked the globe for for many years where where's the biggest followings that you have outside of the US right now, we do really really well in Atlanta stralia where do very well across the UK all across European run. I mean, depending on the markets that we've been two more frequently and those that we've only recently started revisiting, you know. Chain strategies a couple of different times in your career, depending on we're specific markets tend to be heating up for a long time there several markets within Europe or the strongest and rock that we're having a bit of a resurgence. He kinda need to it's a chess match of sorts. You gotta be careful where you move your pieces and at what point in time, but you know, Germany, the UK all throughout Europe in particular, and this one we're doing a lot of these eastern bloc will former eastern bloc, I should say. Let me correct myself countries that are are are showing incredibly strong playing Estonia for the first time playing number these markets that that we've never even dipped our foot in the water into 'em. We're seeing a pretty massive reaction right out of the gate. So it's it's it's developing story at and I I think that we're going to continue to keep on pushing. In the areas that are are showing the kind of responsiveness that they have like how much of the new album have you been doing in the Senate list? I imagine there's I mean listening to this record. There's some stuff on here that just lend itself so well to the live stage, including of course, the opening track which is tell her made how much of you been able to put in from the new record in the live show quite a bit. You know, are you ready definitely tailor-made to open up a set. And and you know, that's definitely what we've been using. I it's just it's gimme as. And we enjoy the fan reaction splices instantaneously, and it's a wonderful open. But we've been playing hold onto memories. The reason to fight we've been playing no more from the record. We've been playing watch you burn quite a bit of new material from the new record. And we also have several spots that we leave as our audibles for the night of the rotating song category and think so you know, really know what else we're gonna pull out. But yeah, we've been playing quite a bit of it in the reactions lives has been amazing. You know, the material and the new record really gives us a tremendous dynamic flow throughout the set. It it enables us to have real peaks and valleys of intensity. And and and and some really poignant emotional moments amongst the pummeling. which I think I've said this before and I'll say it again, sometimes a caress feels best when it's preceded by a good smack. And really that's the story of the record. I mean, when I when I got the record, and I watched and I saw a song title like watch you burn on Mike all merits going to be heavy and evil, and and menacing, and then you listen to it. It's very different sort of vibe. But that's really been. I think a not only a hallmark of the ban in general. But certainly this record where you kinda, you know, you take those different turns in different passages and show a different side of what disturbed can do at the core. Of course, it's a heavy rock band. But you've got a lot of other things. No, better illustrated. Of course, then the gargantuan successive, the the cover sound silence on the last record for sure, and you should know it. I mean. Largely impart to our influences from the classic rock. Really was. I mean, the whole previous touring cycle on a mortar lies all our dressing room. Music was our pre show music was, you know, classic rock band or zeppelin, and we're talking, you know, certainly savage, but but we're talking about even going into journey and REO and sleep would MAC and credence further and further down the line and just listening to how much diversity those records had back in the day, and the combination stylistic elements and the journey that took you on it made us really yearn to try and recreate that vibe, and it now having those additional tools in our repertoire, it really helps make the set more dynamic. It makes. For a really really amazing experience. Not only for the fans, but for us as musicians, you know, being able to go through all these different elements in the life ship. Has been made you even now a few years after what the sound of silence did for you guys. I mean, I've seen some clips online. My good friend, Myles Kennedy. Did a tremendous performance of that with you. I saw I saw you do it at rock Lajos a couple years ago, you'll be back. They're headlining one of the days on may twenty six. How's it eight is still reverberating what you've done with that song? And the one thing I think about is. I mean, look you've got a tremendous voice. But you know, you've got to go out there and deliver that thing every night the way people want to hear it. I hope in twenty years. You didn't pay yourself into a corner David because we've not before. It is daunting. It is on thing. But you know, what I got honestly say it's literally one of my favorite moments of the night. Every time we play it is especially on this run. We've done it just so beautifully in terms of the Seattle method that were delivering it on this tour and just it's such a joy. To to see people light up the way that they do and to to to seeing entire audience. You know, that was just a few moments prior. You know, banging their heads, and and creating circle fits and everything else. All of the sudden everybody that's so big in bed and tosses literally along with yours, truly, you know, moved to the verge of tears, and it's an incredibly powerful moment every night. And I I'm I never ceases to amaze me how it continues to take on different forms like, you know, recently in in Poland. They had this terrible occurrence of of a mayor that that was actually a fascinated and to his memory they in in the public square. They did an Capella version of our version of the sound of silence. And it's become, you know, another incarnation of what? This version of ours has been able to do for people in how many different facets of society. It's reached it. It it blows my mind. I continually just humbled by how much it's reaching people. And you guys were sorta hesitant. If I if I'm not mistaken when you did the that recording to tackle that. Right. I mean, I remember when we talked for that record. You had said you'd said that there was some hesitation whether it was something he really wanted to do. Well, you know, it's only it's only the, you know, arguably one of the greatest songwriters of all time that you're trying to cover and a lot of purist as I'm sure, you know, when it comes to artists of that stature, they would tell you simply don't touch something like that. Because how could you possibly hold the candle to what they've done out? Could you you know? Concerns? Purest so to speak, so. What's thinking? Oh. And the but in the day, we just. And fortunately, we're losing your phone. David sounds like we lose their I know you're going through an airport. Might be. You might be coming back though. Are there, bud? I'm here. Can you hear me now? Okay. I got you back for second. Exactly. Sorry, brother. I'm on the road here. You know, I I always, you know, I always try to say that we should always be trusting our gut instinct more than anything else in the version just made us have, you know, goosebumps every time we listen back to it. It made us emotional every time we listen to it. So we can only hope that it would affect everyone else's. And one other thing to mention let you go because I know you're traveling. But there was a great moment that I saw a video of where you pull the girl up on stage. I guess she'd been getting knocked around by security or something and you she sat down on the rise. And you let her I mean that was just an amazing moment. Can you talk about that? I. Sure. Sure. I mean, we we we have pretty incredible moments like that almost on a nightly basis on this it, it's really become one of my favorite aspects of what we do is just, you know, truly making a moment in incredible for people to the extent that we can and in that particular situation as in many others where I see somebody doing something inappropriate, you know, as far as not necessarily keeping their hands off of of women in the audience or or or or or being a little too rough or or trying to start a fight for the wrong reasons. I always try to be a bit of a peacemaker in those situations. Even though it is my job to drive the crowd into energize them. But we're we're always very very concerned that everybody who's that? Are our concerts is, you know, faith, and sometimes. No matter who you are. It doesn't matter whether you're male female. It pays to have somebody that just has your back You can't see and you can't predict everything. And sometimes all it takes is is a few of the right words at the right time from the right person to defuse the situation. I have the moment where I have that power to wheel. I'm gonna do when I can do to wheeled it responsibly. And she just you know, really, unfortunately, is she wasn't ready for what you got sucked into. You know, the circle fit can be kind of unforgiving. And the guys didn't mean anything they were just doing what they do. But he was by the front of barricade. And you know, she didn't realize it was going to get sucked in and did. And so we just need to make sure that she was safe and then make her feel safe afterwards. Yeah. It was a wonderful moment really cool of you. And of course, the first thing he did when she got up there and realize what she was that. She was on stage with disturbance get her. Phone out documented. But it was really really cool. Hey, man. I know you're traveling, and I gotta run, but I appreciate a few minutes, and hopefully, we can do something more again soon and congrats on all the success say hi to the guys. And I look forward to seeing you once again, headlining Rockall home. I'll be out there hosting it again this memorial weekend. And that'll be a great party. And I'm so glad to see you guys were back on it again. So if I don't catch you before then I'll see, you know, cla Homa. Take care. Safe travels. You to men my thanks David Draymond disturbed joining me. And let's take a break right now. We'll come back, and we'll spend some time talking with Andy Parker of UFO next on the trunk podcast. This is Eddie trunk cast. Hey, be sure to check out off beat with Ricky Henderson. 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He lives in Texas, and I reached out to Andy just about a few days after it was announced the Paul Raymond suddenly passed away to talk a little bit about Paul and see if the band, we're going to fulfil their touring commitments that they have lined up for the US as you're about to hear in the interview. Now when this was done the replacement for Paul Raymond had not been revealed as I mentioned earlier in the podcast. It is now been revealed that it will be Neil. Carter coming back to you f o to fill the shoes of Paul Raymond decision. Very very very happy about Paul Raymond will be missed greatly. But you f oh, I think did a very smart move and calling you'll Carter to come back into the fold and help out. So that is not revealed yet in the interview. But what we do talk about is Paul Raymond his influence and impact on the band and UFO going forward, which even though they're on a farewell tour. Sounds like there might be a little bit more left in the tank already. Have something booked in twenty twenty. Let's get to it right now with Andy Parker of UFO on the trunk podcast. Andy, thanks for a few minutes today and first and foremost men my condolences. Sorry to you and the entire UFO camp. Just shocking. Sad news, absolutely. At a world still turning heads around. It can you can you talk a little bit about, you know, you guys were on tour for people that don't know you have on a farewell tour fiftieth anniversary tour, and you just completed a run of dates in in the UK. Right. Absolutely. Yeah. We've just done almost five weeks. Quite quite intense. One of the best tools we've done in the is. And you know, we knew everything was good. I mean, you know, as you said huge shock, and and you know, even moso for us. I mean, I, you know, I mean, we just we just been with the guy five weeks, and he saved up so fun. So it's it's a little how to try and understand that. I guess these things haven't unfolding get past lifetimes to happen. More often than you want. Actually is one of the reasons why if I'm not mistaken that Phil kind of said he thought it would be now a good time to sort of start winding down the band. I remember reading something with Phil where even said something kind of half jokingly like, hey, I don't wanna be out there on the road in anybody dropping at this point. And you know, I when I heard about Paul dying. That's something jumped into my mind immediately because I do remember reading that Phil sort of in his release about calling it with the band kind of reference. The fact that we need to know when to stop at. I think it would sail in you know, I it's like he's kind of tight lipped about it. But I know that we've lost a few people close we lost Christine Grady's just a couple of albums. You know, people we've both some people very close to us. And I think just fills start thinking, and he you know, there's rumor going he's retired. He's actually retiring it was more that he just. Wanted to cut back on the touring. And of course, you a touring band. And I think he just you know, just felt that he done enough tell him on the road and he wanted to really cut down. So I mean, having said that he has accepted a cruise for next year with the band, you know, so I mean, I don't think he's putting the band. You know, totally you know on us. But I think maybe most selective, and I don't think you'll find us doing these long does anymore when you were on tour recently with Paul who for those that don't know join the band around seventy seven and for people look UFO has had a lot of different people in and out of the band over the decades. But what what almost every UFO fan regards as the classic lineup is the lineup that made strangers in the night with yourself. Michael Pete, fill and. Paul. And of course, the ban currently as it consisted in recent years was without Michael and Pete. But with Paul there yourself and Phil. So when you when you were on tour in doing these shows nothing from him of any elements any concerns any issues, he seemed totally fine. Absolutely. He did have a touch of problem with one of these foot. I think you know, I've been diagnosed with gal, maybe and you know, acted up once in a while. But like I said in my little tribute to him you never would've known. I mean that could have been impeding. He'd never had his performance. You always gave is oh, you know. So so that's the only thing I knew that was bothering him. And you know, I have actually tried it emails with his girlfriend. He recently moved last couple of years moved to Germany with his girlfriend, and she said that she didn't understand because at the end of last year, he posed a major physical flying colors. So is is you know, as much shock to for that reason as to all of us. You know, I said he seemed perfectly fun. I was gonna ask you about that. Because so many times we hear about musicians, and when you hear things like this the immediate thing as well. He never got checked. They never kept up, you know. And that's kind of why I thought what have been the dot is. That when Sondra sent me emails saying that she just didn't understand. I mean, she's devastated. You know, they've been together a couple years, and and you know, obviously, very close. And and she just don't understand it. You know, he cornered the he was fun. But you know, that's the first time I've heard that. So it's just it's just a real shy. But you know, I mean from my point of view, I'm trying to of, you know, his it's I don't think it's still really sunk in for me, you know, because of a c I saw him, you know, and I think the off, you know, the night the law show the Friday night, I said to me you guys hadn't back to Germany said, no, we hotel London. We're gonna stay here for for a few days and do some shopping enjoy spending money, you know. And he just lost said. Yep. I'll see if you weeks because you know, what you to be out at the beginning of June in Europe again. And that was the last what I had with him. And he's absolutely. And so it is a huge show. And being touch with his girlfriend, and was she able to shed any light on exactly what happened. He had a heart attack. Is that correct early? He woke that Molin he was complaining of stomach pain, and he laid down for one. And then he said, oh, it's better. I feel much better. And I think, you know, and then very soon up to that he had had the attack, and I guess they go to and they tried to revive him. But they couldn't it was too too big of a heart attack. Can you talk about when you first met Paul Raymond and how he came into you know, he joined the band on what many considered to be one of their one of your greatest studio records in classic record for sure when lights out and that was his first record with the band after fix maybe seventy seven what was released in seventy seventy seventy six and the album was released seventy seven not believe if I'm if I'm if my memory says we will. It's getting kind of fuzzy. I think he came. We were doing the show with Savoy Brown. Maybe which was the ban. He was in prior. Yeah. Exactly. I think in America somewhere. And and that was when Donnie paranoia was in the band, and we kind of knew that wasn't gonna work out. We kind of run its Kohl's. I think he got token to Pete. And I think Pete such and we know we're going to be looking for new cable planning pull was, you know, switch hitter he played the guitar real. Which made it perfect, you know, and and the great voice vocals too. You know? That's that's a big big gap to draw on Phil. Yeah. Without a doubt. And that's what I was gonna ask you about get to that in a second. But when he came into the bent had, you guys known him much prior to I mean, he was in Savoie Brown. And then was in chicken shack before several Brown. Did you did you were you? I did you first meet him when he joined UFO or how'd you think so I didn't know him prior to that? I might have seen him play. But I'd never met him. No. So, you know, but he's fit really well, he just came in. And he was you know, similar background to us. You know grown up with the blues. And and yeah, he was really good fit. I mean, obviously, you know from from the years that you spent and the album's we made with him 'specially. She said strangers. Excuse me. Go just came in. Doing the job. You know, I hadn't hadn't known him prior to that for me. You know, I always think of Paul, and it'll be so strange to come to the shows and not, you know, he's always had that smile. He always just like all of you guys, always tolerate my my obsession with your band, no pun intended on obsession. But, you know, even always come over to me and whisper some things to stir me up a little bit and tell me some stories, and it just only said that smile and all that. But from a fenced-in point for me what I always said about Paul Raymond and UFO in general is I don't think there's ever been a hard rock band that has had a more with Paul in the band had a more of active use of keyboards. Meaning that all whatever he did. Keyboard wise, whether it be on the studio records or live were was always the perfect thing. It was never too much where it softened or got in the way of the power of the band. But always these perfect textures and sounds and. One of my all time favorite songs is love to love the keyboard, beginning just everything. And then he was that perfect change. He was that perfect utility guy where okay, a song didn't call for keys, very was left handed with the ATar filling out the sound and I loved when he would harmonize with Phil on vocals, I thought that sounded great. That's great. Is superb around. I mean, you know, multiple talents. And you know, you played guitar upside down to which people don't realize is is strong the normal y played upside down. When he was learning. There was only run hand guitars laying around. We will pick up, you know, and he led to play that way. And it kind of I think actually added a little different sound. You know, the way he was strumming was into the damn woods and stuff. It's interesting. But yeah. Personally. I mean, your relationship over the years was a bit up and down wasn't. Well, you know, I mean as I said in my in my tribute to him, you know, I mean, we didn't always say, I that's because you know, he made his opinions known. I mean, he no he wasn't a guy just to kind of go with the flow. Always if he felt strongly enough about something he tell you. I, you know about him, you know, and always will. But we always stayed friends. I mean, you know, I mean, that's that's kinda thing about him. You know, you could have a discussion with him. But you know, the end of the day we about is. And we were band mates and live carried on. And he wrote some great songs too. I mean, he tell you. There's a song on the record called the monkey puzzle called Kingston town that he wrote and I always talk to him about that song. It's on one of the more recent UFO records with any on guitar with the current band. But there's that is grim that song had such a great melody such a beautiful song. And he was, you know, not not the pri- certainly not the primary songwriter in the band, but he certainly made songwriting contributions. Absolutely. I believe you know, on this just finished we would doing baby. And that was one of his great from obsession. Yeah. And then of course, he would leave you F O, and and join interestingly enough, Michael Schenker, and you know, how is the vibe at that time with him leaving to go to Michael's band. Remember it being a problem? You know, I mean people they come and go, you know, I've been in the band three times now. So you know, it's Elving thing going on there. But some no, I don't remember. There was any animals about it. I mean, he came back. I mean, he came back, and he's the guy that cold me to get me back in two thousand five when I came back for the lost. Yeah. He's the guy that made the phone call to me he said, he only signed. It was a olga's Bank holiday in England. You know, and I was heading back to work the next I was working for my family of that time and the phone rang. And it was pony went Phil tell we know what to cooling you. 'cause we've asked you before he said choices left and we've got this show to inspire those one. If you've been trusting coming back said, you know, actually. Yeah. I would then it was just for the one show that tell him, but he worked out so well as you say, I've stayed. I'm really glad he called me. You know, it was been fab fabulous just to get to play with those guys. Again, you know, and and I'm gonna miss the hell out of him. I really am. We had love, you know, we we had a lot of things in common, especially sense of humor. So you know, I really will miss him phone that hasn't really sunk in yet. You know, I think you know, it's it's gonna be until I get you know with the guys again. And he's there that's really gonna. I'm sure for for you guys. All the fans as well. A quick note when when Paul went and joined the Michael Schenker group, there's a song on the first record. He did with that band called never trust a stranger, which was a single. I think at one point and written by Paul. It's just great great song. If people have a chance to check that out. Andy have you I'm assuming you've talked to all the other guys in the band and have you heard from Pete? And or Michael about this. If you guys all sort of traded any any notes or anything or no that I did have a mutual friend that when he told to pay about about this page. He was pretty much. P p is getting ready to embark upon some. So I don't know if your age ground has another band he's put together now. And he's he's going out to do some Deitz this summer. In fact, he's playing he's playing to Sweden rock the same day as we on the different size. But right before we go on some actually catch his his performance. But I guess he was it was more code up with with what's going on with him than with poll. Really? I mean, they hadn't seen each other for a long time. So, you know, it's hard to know how other people feel if it was been pretty tight lipped about it too. You know, I've tried to couple of emails with him. But he's signing and probably for the raise them, we discussed earlier, you know, this is actually what you fit kind of, you know, and it's it's very hard to come to terms with actually emailed with Phil about this. I got in touch with everyone and express my condolences and fill back to me a couple times. And he even when I talked to him about I really I wanted. And I appreciate you taking a few minutes today. Because to me, it's really important that we remembered Paul and celebrated him in some way, you know, when the the big name marquee guys pass away, there's tributes and shows and on and on and on. But to fans, you know, a guy like Paul who are into so many UFO fans. I mean, I heard from all from David Ellison and megadeath all these guys who know UFO had such an influence on evitable, everyone just. And the fans too. I mean, so many fans, you know, 'cause you know, we always say we have the best time base in the world. But, you know, just the messages pulled in for this, you know, and people loved him. You know, like I said, he's a is a huge space to fill. Just just you know, we planning to carry on. Well, he would have wanted and we're planning to carry on and believe I can't tell you exactly. How carrying on today, but we definitely carrying with with the with the law stoldas too. And I think we're gonna make an announcement sometime during this week probably the mid later this week of you know, who's going to be taken over those duties say replace him 'cause you can't replace him. But see somebody has to you know, to fill that gap. And nothing when we make an announcement about that later this week. Well, let me ask you this. I know you probably can't reveal it yet. But the first thing that came into my mind as a huge fan of the band, as you know, is the guy who replaced him when he left UFO, which was Neil Carter who made a huge contribution. I don't know what Neil does. Now. I don't know if even still plays. But is that a consideration? What I'm sure he's you know, on the list, there was several people that we thought about and I say I'd love to tell you, Bobby and swollen too. Chrissy. You know, manage he should hit the website before. You've you've you've settled on guy. You just haven't announced it yet. We we're pretty and we've said on the guy we, you know, we're just coasting as the is right now. But I think probably by wins. The everyone will know. And. Yeah. And Phil Phil had said to me when when he had gone back and forth with me a couple times on Email. It said, hey, do you wanna come on? And and speak a little bit about Paul. And he said, I appreciate the offer. And I would love to he said, but no he said get in touch with Andy said, I don't I don't do. Well, with these sort of things he said, and I tend to fill said he tends to I guess as a mechanism. He tends to make humor out of everything. Exactly. Sometimes doesn't play well in these. It's a very fine line. I'm would've appreciate it. Because like I said we shared the same kind of, you know, wicked wicked sense of humor that tends to go with this band is, you know, you've been around enough to know how we all. But yeah, this time it it's a little difficult. And I think it was Phil's defense. Mechanism to joke about it. And we all we all do. But you know, obviously, we don't wanna make the fact, you know, what a huge losses to us. And you know, what a extremely talented person pool was, and if you're gonna joke about anything, you gotta be honest here and say, it's pretty remarkable. If you think about it that of the original of the classic five you're talking about Pete getting ready to start a new band thing. Much. Vinnie said that you know, when when when this this broke, you know, we could go it was a Saturday moan. And I was up early. You know, my dog barking in the background, they need let now, you know. My phone started ringing. It was just right around eight o'clock in the moment who was calling me early to the phone. It was Vinny. He's putting just picked up the phone, and he was on the other end, and he sent his have you read your emails said, turn the computer. And he said go read them some really bad news. And and you know, to be totally honest, the first in my head was paid, you know, 'cause he's been through you know, so much. You know lately with his health. But you know, you can measure my show when I saw it was poll. I mean, just left the guy. It's just it's just too strains to think about it. But yeah, but you know, I hope and paid you know, Pete gonna do. Okay. He's playing bass anymore. Singing now, really? So that frontmen in fact. Tell you. 'cause I think these secret Clive, Ed Pleiad woods who was the drummer in UFO for will and low and CIA whose gets hell play everyone feels lineups. If you have they are in the band and Clive described as a cross between lemme and Lou Reed. Make make what you will very interested to see it playing bass. I wonder I guess I guess he's capable of singing and playing. Play by. I'm just glad to see still doing something. You know, tell you something really strange before the show that was my manager was in London for the shows. And he said, there's a guy come from Norway wants to do an interview with you said, you know, may not doing interviews on the show. He said, well, he's come all the way from no way with this huge magazine from Hawaii. What you do? Okay. I'll just come down do the interview with him. So I sat down with this guy before the show. And the first thing was I wanna tell you about Phil for time. And I had to say, well, actually feels not retiring that's kind of you know, miss a misconception. He's you know, he's just the gall man that goes on my questions. So then you obviously, we started started interview. And you know, one point he's to me. And my Ryan thinking every pasta member, you know, in this band is is still alive. And I'm extremely superstition gotta show that don't be g. What on the window sale? You know, said come on, you know, but yeah, probably. And then we later this news, and you found out a few days ago that Chapman had a stroke about three weeks ago. Oh, no that and I didn't know that this this friend, mutual friend. That's been been close to pull for the most few weeks. Yeah. So apparently, he looks to us an but he's doing better on the mend. We we still. We send him our best and wish him a speedy recovery. On a plane and fly away and find that strangling. That's crazy. Don't be saying stuff like that. Anyway. Well, look man, I don't wanna keep you too long. I, you know, I could talk forever. But I it's been a while. I mean shit we didn't work. So I didn't say, but and you know, I'm gonna get to see you on the on the American Red sure, you know, me I'll be like following the bus around if I had. Good. I was so I really the thing that's killing me about this too. As a fan is. I was this close to coming over to to catch. Maybe the London show because it was you know, the last run and all that. And I was this close to getting on a plane, but my schedule is so crazy. So you know, what all-white see the guy soon enough here, you're playing the, you know, I I'm on board the mega cruise that's coming up. And I suggested today mistaken when he was on this show. I said you gotta get UFO on that. Because I know he's a big fan. I know you're playing the pre party for that. I know you got all these dates on like, I'm gonna get a lot of UFO in the US. It'll be all good. And now tragically just shocked to to see that it won't be with Paul. But I'm glad to hear you're gonna continue at least for that. He would have wanted, you know. And if I'd have been, you know, if I'd have to go I would expect the guys to carry on. So I'm you know, I don't think that was ever an issue. It's just. We'll carry on. But yeah. So that's that you're on that cruise. I think that's that's twenty twenty isn't it? I know the megadeath one which is this October called the mega cruise. Actually, you actually aren't on the guys aren't actually going on the cruise, but you're playing the prank. We're on the twenty twenty which is real legends crews doing, and I think that's February twenty seven to the second of much on in twenty twenty. But yeah, I say this now twelve I've Hollywood like your LA play. And it's pre mine. Yeah. Right. It'll be it'll be great. And of course, all the tour dates and everybody can find them online and just looking to say, oh, Sony ho in New York. Yes. The no, we'll see you. There is long as I'm in town. But most of the shows that I've been catching have been in other cities because I've been traveling so much myself, but I used to doing you'll speaking things that hosting stuff doing my show from different places. So I got young kids trying to pay the bills and either. Have to tell you how that it can get to. You know? So you can see why feel wants to wind that down his, you know. Yeah, it was it was a pleasure speak as you as a ways, and you know, plus play something for poll. Well, I will. And I tell you what man my condolences to you and the entire UFO family and all the fans, I mean, we all loved him. He was such a huge part of the history of the ban in the sound of the band, and he will absolutely be missed and you take care of yourself. And I'll see on travels. Okay. Okay. Thank you. See? Bye. Bye. Well, my thanks Dante Parker, and as I mentioned it now has been revealed since I did that interview that Neil Carter who performed with UFO on mechanics wild willing and the innocent and making contact has indeed returned to the band to take over the vacant. Guitar rhythm rhythm guitar and keyboard slot in the band very much looking forward to seeing you Afo with Neil Carter. And hoping that Neil's return will maybe mean, a return to some of the material from those records that he made with UFO which I would love to hear. And we'll see if that indeed does happen. So that's what's going on in UFO land and again condolences as we continue to remember and more in the passing of Paul Raymond as well. It's any trunk and the trunk podcast for another week. I appreciate you guys listening. Remember, the interviews you here on this podcast all originate on my daily, Sirius XM radio show. Trunk nation. Live Monday through Friday ze. Two four PM eastern time with a replay every night nine to eleven pm eastern. And you can listen on demand. Anytime you want on the Sirius XM app if you are in the US or Canada. Please join me for my daily show on Sirius XM and get involved and get on board with it. Getting a little sample of what I'm doing here. Weekly on the podcast. Thanks. Katya is Ari. She's the producer of the Eddie trunk podcast. 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The Quarantine Sessions Vol2 - Ep399
"Disciplined here what we said we wanted to go viral. But not like this. Welcome to the Decibel Geek podcast. We are still in quarantine my name. Is Eric Camaro across a couple of counties? Away is Kristin Zach. How's it going brother how you doing stay alive? How are you good? I'm just staying home trying to stay out of the mess as best as I can. Yeah we're into the second week of this and who knows what the hell is going to stop. It's driving me crazy man. I'm so stir crazy. It's like I want to go out and do stuff. You know how bad I wanted to go to. The phone unlocks music store the other day as wanting to go buy a CD. And I know all them stores are closed and even if they are open. I wouldn't go. I went to a local restaurant because they're trying to support the small businesses and they were doing curbside takeout orders and like chorus. They were backed up super long. And I'm sitting in my car reading a book and thinking this is more fun than being Al's awaited like forty five minutes for my food. I was like this is still better than being at home or like. Normally you'd be pissed for having to wait that long but in the circumstance like wow this the most exciting thing that's happened all day ask. We got out drove just drove around the country because we just had to get out of the house but didn't say anything all that special what it was like. At least we got out of the alphabet. Something Nice well. We're coming into your house this week. Because hopefully that's where you're listening to the show and Yeah it's another quarantine session today. Chris's where he's at in studio see. I'm back here in studio but we're not going to deprive you guys of the show. So we're GONNA rock on with this and we're going to do some more quarantine sessions today. We're GONNA answer some more questions. I've got a big surprise. A big surprise. We're GONNA try an experiment before the end of the show. And I'm not even going to tell you Chris what it is but I think you're going to have a lot of fun and I think the listeners are GonNa Freak in love it. All we need to do is find a willing participant today. So see what we can come up with now. We've got a couple of friends joining us this week. Hopefully because he is back this week and because he helped us out so much last week with our quarantine sessions that hopefully he'll be my willing Guinea pig. We also got his co host. This week in Josh. Toomey old friend of the show. Yeah Awhile since. He's been on the show. So it'd be interesting screen refund. Ask those guys about new podcasts. The diplomat Focus podcast Geo. I think it's called about right. We'll we'll we'll ask them all about that. But before we get to all this and the fun festivities and the secret experiments today we got to take care of our business and our business. It's sweet reviews and recommendations. We got a good one here today. It's an apple. Podcast Review Entitled Keeping Rock Alive. Five stars right there Bam these guys know their stuff and dig deep love revisiting some of the classic records with them and learning about how they were made. Keep up the great work. Guys that comes to us from rat. Fink number two via apple podcasts. From a year in the USA RATPAC number two number two number one out there somewhere him. Nex A rat fink number. Two is number one in my book. That's an awesome review. We appreciate it very much. Thanks to everybody that takes time to leave. Us reviews and recommendations clearly. We don't hide how much it means to us. So keep them coming. We love to hear from you guys especially during trying times like this. And thanks for the feedback. We got on the corentin sessions volume one last week when I remember of it was awesome. But it'll be if we do this again this week and you guys seem to like kind of the loose format and we loved. Interact with fun. Yeah and one thing. I realized last week about that show is that the Decibel Geek hotline is awesome. But the way it's going to work best when this shit all blows over and you're able to come back over here to the studio sit across from me and you and I can be here and take phone calls that way because man we get too many on the line. It just messes things up for man. That was funny listening. Yeah what a mess. I think people were entertained by all the problems. We were happy with it. So there's that at least for sure. Yeah but the GIG awakenings people that shared on facebook twitter twitter last week's Corentin sessions volume. One thinks loic this week. Our Jeffrey Mendenhall Scrap Gino aims. Sean Phillips Air Martell Justice Capone Jason. Lucy Scott Chris Rock in runyon decibel. Tv made actress and Tom Lucas. Aaron Baker Jim Back David Glenn Shea Heart Trevor McDougal Adam Cox Todd Cunningham. Andrew Jacobs Alati or Aguilar. Christopher spoke twisted sister and is always the food food. Your baby those are people are Geeks of the week. They shared last week's episode. The first part of the quarantine sessions they're in quarantine with us and that's why they're geeks of the week this week. We want to become a geek of the week. Just share this week's episode quarantine sessions volume two. I'm sure you will because it's going to be a lot of fun. Well I guess we got to talk about it. Well I guess before we do. I should say we're playing some music today This is what I picked this. I just found this is one of my last finds before the quarantine began in all the music stores. Shut down the CDs called a tribute to pink. Floyd that's it. It's got some weird stuff on it. Another brick in the wall featuring fee waybill of the tubes run like hell featuring diesel Zappa and I think Glenn who sings on that one to note the dude from Chicago. This crazy album one. I'M GONNA out at the end of the show to awesome cover. Welcome to the sheen dig this featuring Doug Panic of Kings axe Gary Holy on guitar. Mike Caro formerly of toto on Bass Keyboards Derek. Charene and on Drums Greg Bissonnette. That's crazy grown for the end of the show. That'll be our playout song. Bob Kulich written all over it. Not this one actually really. I don't see no Bob Hewitt on here. Maybe somewhere on their hurt but junior eric singer plays on breathing. The air came out in two thousand four on platinum disc. Never heard of that so I dealt mad. Yes well start things off with the sad news brother. Make it a double official. GotTa say it. On the show I hate Saito loud mandate break smart Iraq and Pod is not happening in twenty twenty unfortunately damn you corona virus. I'll make it brief. I mean essentially. There was just a whole lot of factors that kind of came into making the decision. But they're all related to the pandemic and basically all the repercussions that come with a pandemic and things that fall in line on the business side just basically a bunch of Dominos started falling and it got to the point where it was like this. It's GONNA be disastrous. If we go forward and we were the success of it was gonNA be incredibly hamstrung between between South and being able to sell hotel rooms and also the touring. The industry has been turned inside out and even even in a good scenario A lot of the tours are GONNA get reschedule. Which means a lot of our guests would probably not going to be able to come. And as a promoter. You don't WanNa you don't WanNa promote a bunch of guests that are gonNA wind up dropping off and also You know people don't have disposable income so you know this is this is a situation has hit the economy hard and it's just one of the things took a step back and it's like okay. People's health is at risk. We don't know how long this is going to go on for and people are gonNA need every penny they can get going into the rest of this year so it just made the most sense to postpone the twenty twenty. One and I'm in talks with the hotel. Were hoping to make an agreement to do it there next year so we can just kind of keep the same set up. We were going to have But I'm waiting to hear back from them so stay but stay. Tuned refunds have already been processed. Everybody should get their money back soon and The that's where we're at now. I'm sorry it couldn't happen. You guys all know how much work we put into this thing. And it's heartbreaking but it just as the best decision right now I mean. What can you do man? I mean the they're telling us stay home don't congregate with people you know. And that's what rock and pot is a big congregation all kinds of people hanging out in the same place next to each other. Enjoying each other and that can happen with what's going on you know and even if it clears up tomorrow who knows how long until things get back to normal you know and I look things ain't going to be tomorrow so it's socks. I'm GonNa Miss so many of my friends that I was looking forward to seeing this summer. You know and a lot of people are going to be let down. Because they can't make it but I'm sure everybody's got to understand. Do you WANNA get on a plane. Right now really. Do you WanNa go to stay in a hotel room. I don't I don't want to do these things. It's just not safe out there so stay home and listen to podcasts sea. Yeah I mean every everybody that three act that has been very good about it from the castors to the to the guests that we had scheduled to the attendees at across the board. Everyone's been super understanding and and everyone that knows me and Erin know that you know. This event means a lot to us in. We love kind of being the the host of this thing every year so it hurts to not be able to put it on like you said. We're GONNA miss everybody this summer but you know we had that much more time to try to plant something really great for next year. There's a moment of silence for the rocket pod Expo this year. That's a bomber man. I hate the corona virus. I gotta get out of this House. I can't take it no more. I can't take another month. This thank God for the podcast brother. I don't know what the hell yeah I'd go crazy I've been looking at me is since last week but the Maine's July it's going to be awesome. Oh man it's going to be so good. We're going to talk to a bunch of old timers and convince them. There's no way you can get the corona virus over the phone safety i. I sure hope we don't get a new story. Come out get corona virus over the phone but like down. The show's done in those sons of bitches tried to get us. To call the hotline. He got everybody sick. Oh Man I look forward to that too and this is all finally over back to normal Iraq and pod happening in twenty twenty one and get you back over here to the studio because it's not the same. It's fun but it's just not the same. Yeah it's more fun to hang out together so hopefully hopefully back to that pretty soon. Ready to go yes and I think it's high time that we get to our guests. Ladies and gentlemen returning from last week we appreciate. It has helped so much we had to bring him back and we also got his awesome co host with us today from the display of your hip cup pied cast. We've got in wildly and our Josh toomey doing. Nice how you guys doing now drunk yet. But I'm working on it just a little self quarantining here in the talk to Me Studios. Diablo's and podcast studios again real slow for me. Please rock shocks. I love it. Best Name and podcasting right there rolls off the tongue right. Outta to his mother's ouch now. I'm a big fan of the declaration of independence. Podcast God. Well somebody explain it to the polack. Belo's in podcast Ika. What'd you say? Diarrhea of the mouth. Akiva haters old as the band's in lax and that's true I mean so we guys on here. I've been dying ask. I haven't asked either one you since it all happened. I mean Josh. Your own thing going on with talk to me. And Ian You were part of the Rock and metal combat podcast and that kind of ended. I just didn't Kinda just ended. How the Hell do you to get together and decide? It's a good idea to put on a podcast. Because when I first heard that you guys were doing I thought to me and Ian. That's going to be insane. How the Hell do you guys get together and decide? This is going to be a great idea. Well I was trying to Enjoyed being unemployed and collecting a check but to me called me. You know. Texts me on the phone. Probably a couple of hours after announced it and then I was like well. Let me weigh my options. Absolutely nobody else wanted to work with me so By the by the fault you have Diablo's and podcast. Yeah Man I've been wanting to do a show with the co-host for awhile and And it just kind of happen where IAN popped up and and honestly through the Rock and products expo over the years him and I have become fast friends and had had a few drinks over the years and so when it came time to do a show in a Co host he. He became available in a slid right in those. Dm's ended nice. Well it's working so far I did. You guys are doing appreciate it thank you. I've actually been kind of surprised that some of the revelations about Joshua's taste that come about on this show Immaculee tastes in music. Yeah like the the dislike of of Judas priest kind of caught me off guard. Well I don't. I don't Dislike Judas priest I just never got into them. There's a difference. I didn't think we were going to get into it this early. But you know if it's GONNA come out at my as will come out. Now Josh. The three of US inviting you here today. This isn't really a podcast recording. It's an intervention. I've I wrote this. They told me it's good to write things like this. I wanted to read this to you. Tell you Josh. I've known you for a while. Now you know I remember when you introduce yourself to me and said you knew what a podcast was and even heard of ours back when we had very very few listeners. And I love you man. I see you have a problem. And it's now it's no shame to ask for help. You can come to US anytime. We will teach you the Magic of Judas priest all you have to do is ask. It's up to you. You have to make the decision to embraced Judas Priest and I want you know. All three of us are here to help you. So that's that's what this is really all about. You know he's right boss. You know I just assumed you were little. I didn't know the pain. You're suffering in silence. it alleged stuck in your your new metal cocoon. You never know what's going on some somebody's head and sometimes it's not. We're we're here to help. And I just want to say that if you really want to get over the Hump and become a diehard Judas priest fantasy how bad they really are I just. I think you need to go on you to find the video for hot rock and watch it over and over again. Wait a minute. That's completely the wrong advice. Don't do not the one you know. It's funny in all honesty in the last week or so over You know dealing with Ian and the The Rock and metal combat followers. Listen Judas priest. It's not bad but I'm forty. I'm not really not really ready to go deep into a catalog this week. Maybe next week. Have you ever checked? Out The ripper Owens zero to breathe. No I have not well with your your background with new metal. Almost kind of wonder as an experiment. If you might actually prefer that Eero the bat they actually were trying to kind of go that route at the time so far like. I've really enjoyed painkiller but other than that. I haven't really stained class. He he just song from stained class one of the episodes and I was like okay. Have Fun with that. My to this has been just as weird for me because you realize you know a Jesuit saying you know we hung out at the Rock and pods and always had a good time. You know joke back and forth online. But I made all kinds of assumptions about John like Just to be combative because people like those kinds of episodes where one guy one guy the other I knew what a big negative fanny was so I picked cryptic writings. Just because you know I hate that album and I was like I bet you. He just loves it. And sure enough. You know he's like yeah. Yeah that's not a strong one not a fan. I was like shit. You know all you every time I think I know Josh. P constantly surprises me. I'm an ignorant wrapped in a riddle. He he's not a big Van Halen Fan he only likes to stuck with Wolfgang. It's it's odd. It's odd but You know I I don't I don't make any judgments. That's that's fine. I mean I get I get shocked you know in a in. It's weird but I think that makes for a great show so you know whatever his tastes are that's his problem. I gotta ask You Josh. Just for the for the for their sake and one particular listeners. In general what's your thoughts on. Pink Floyd with Roger Waters and remember. You could lose your life depending on your answer. I have no idea I don't I I couldn't tell you the different eras of pink. Floyd Oh you got some work to do in. Yeah but that's part of the show so we interesting honestly this this type of stuff just makes me hate metal heads even more like just nonsense like oh you knew the backside of dark side of the wall to its entire dark side of the Wall Street and to into the Kristen Zach Phantom and just be like well. I spent like a week with them in like Nineteen ninety-two so I love them now. Ads Way too early to bring up juice Newton. Somebody actually Brian. Just think it's hilarious. Like how that throwaway line in an episode has become like this. Oh my God I believe he never got into Judas priest. I told the in the same thing the other day I was like Judas priest and all that stuff I appreciate it. That's like one of my uncles. Were listening to like. I wanted my music when I got into music and I'm sorry that I can't. I can't understand why it's like this big deal. That shit came before I was born turned into this. Like Oh my God. I'll take middle card away. Explained to you just gotTa understand. You know that'd be like some kid walking up to you and thinking anything before Greta van fleet sucks you know it. It's like I wasn't surprised when you told me you didn't like old nickelback. But I was surprised when he said you liked the new shit. Chad Kroeger can write a song. Man has been having you on the show today. It is funny. I do understand now what it feels like when people were like. I don't like Pant Tara and I'm like how can you not like Pandera? Should of course I get it? Trust me when you grow up. You'll get it even more but I think it's safe to say for the rest of us though that when we were coming up. We embraced older music. I I didn't look at it as I. I can't listen to that. That's you know my dad's era you know. I love the shit that my parents played for me and and that you know that I picked up from older kids it did but I do understand like trying to find your own identity and want your own shit. My son was the same way when he was younger. You know I've tried to play music for him and it wasn't cool of dad liked it and some of those same bands a few years later when his friends said it was cool then it was cool but to him like he likes the older shit? Now but like ninety S. Metallica was his shit. I'm like you gotta be fucking kidding. Me It's horrible but it's what you grow up with cause I cock rock. I fully admit there's a lot of cock rock that if I'd never heard it went on you know when I was a teenager and you just played it for me now this year. It's terrible but a lot of it has great memories and I'm pretty sure Josh is going to feel that way with new metal if that wasn't out during your formative years you know you'd probably laugh at that Shit. Can we like breakdown like nineteen eighty-seven issue of metal edge or something? Whoa hold on let me grab mine. Okay thanks what's on page three one of those again in the future but today we're going to focus on listener questions. We couldn't get to last week and a lot of these. You know. They'll be good for you guys to answer as well so if you guys are happy to. Chime in with these lists or questions. I think we'll get started. You ever a good with that. Cool all right so. This is a good Josh. I know you as a massive metallica Fan. So this is a good question Who was your choice to replace Jason? When he quit METALLICA. That comes from Chad pollock. Anybody have a choice in mind when Jason quit metallica. Trying to think back to those audition tapes from From the ANTASTIC. Some kind of monster video. No I mean it's funny watching those videos you'll kind of know when you see Robert trying out you know he's GonNa get the GIG but I don't know it would have been neat to see some of those guys in there like even like pepper Keenan. I thought we'd been been kind of fun. And almost like a throwback or the do from tried out I would have been kind of cool but but yeah I think they. I think they made a good decision with Robert. I just wish they let him not have those stupid braids. His hair in the basketball JERSEYS THOUGHT PEPPER. Keenan would have made the most sense because of his friendship with James But I will say I know the person that thought he should have had the job that most was Bob Rock. Yeah as long as it's not Bob Rock I remember actually hoping for Ellison because I thought it would have been great at and that would pissed off mistaken something fierce and he probably would have put out a good record but I think that was around the same time or maybe it was right before was was Ellefson even even in Megadeath at the time. I don't know I can't remember but I think it would have been a good fit. I I think Allison's very underrated I would love to hear metallica allies. I think Robert does a great job in the band and I knew that was good. Just unfortunately he was in. The band earned the worst period in my opinion not sales wise but in my opinion. I don't think he was ever able to contribute the way he should have been able to. But Allison would be my pick. That'd be pretty damn interesting to see. What else could have brought to that band? You know. But Man Robert Shapiro. He's awesome. I love that dude love his stuff and suicidal tendencies. And I figured you know like Josh said you know you watch that you know who's GonNa get it but I think if I had choose go with one other guy that audition his audition kind of quiet. And that was hulk Hogan Hulk Hogan would have been awesome Bass player because then you get the double threat only. Are you getting to see Metallica? Also getting see Hulk Hogan Yeah and you get to hear You'd get to here Lars. Trash can drums the real American legend. Logan actually auditioned for METALLICA. And they said well you play pretty good but you know you're cogan actually discussing this though. I just did a Google search on my pick on why they didn't pick ellison is because Olofsson came with a condition that there would be two bass players they'd have to take him and Tom Hazel nut to crack. So that's why my my dream didn't work. And how did I know that Aaron Kamara would find a way to shoehorn Hulk Hogan you? Hey don't blame me Chad. Pollock ask the question. Yeah any new Bam Bam bigelow. Never had a chance right. He had the look but not to look for sure. And these questions are all over the board. Here's the next one's a non non music question if you were going to bring back a defunct restaurant or fast food place. What would it be like? I'm Michael Back for any of them. They're all closed at McDonald's. Kenny Rogers passing. I was thinking about Kenny. Rogers roasters the other day and how they had. They had some really good corn bread there. So I'd bring back some Kenny. Rogers roasters in honor of the Great Kenny Rogers House. I don't have an answer but rocket rod running. Just text me an answer. He said anyone with a kids. Playground brought back from Iraq. And Ron Runyon. You're so hard on rock and Rodman. Yeah so is the law trendy. WanNa show them. Hey It's a lot of fun. Let's talk about wild side. All right Realistically do you see. Kiss continuing as touring act after pollen. Gene leave Yeah for about one week at a casino in Vegas. Nobody will show up in our brought up kissed. You have to say your tagline. Oh a Guy Oma God yes I can just see kids doing it. I think they'll they'll these attempt. It probably won't be Hugh Juvin US but Put Him in a theater or something. It'd be a lot of fun. I I don't know if I go see it. I don't I don't know what would you would you see that Greece became through. I'm not out of mind. It would depend on the price I guess if it was cheap and and it was done like faithfully to like the history of the band. Maybe but I kinda thought they had the right idea a few years ago. Doc mcghee talked about like you remember. When did like the reality Shota pick the new guy that was going to say? I think they should do something like that. Make it into a reality. Tv show and I know a lot of people like Oh my God reality tv but I mean I mean kiss lost credibility over twenty years ago so you might as well just go with it but I mean I think it would be an entertaining thing to see the guys in the band like pick replacements. I I mean why not at this point. If you're worried about any credibility with kiss you haven't been paying attention for the last two decades. Well all I can say that they want Josh. Timmy's money that new lineup better. Just play a sonic boom in monster. Because he don't like that old shit. Hey Don't attack my kiss fan of now I. I like the makeup era of kissed man. I would totally watch that. If it were real thing the the members of kiss you know and then they go around the country around the world and say okay. We're going to whittle it down to the top five Paul Stanley tribute. Artists are the top five gene. Simmons I don't know man it's the possibilities are pretty awesome. And then you can have appearances by Ace. Fraley in you know people would see what a big deal this was when those ratings came in. Because what Kiss Fan would miss that you know and then if you can get engaged with the people that are vying for the position kiss then it goes on the road because you feel like you're a part of it because you voted or whatever for your favorite guy that you might go see that because through a TV show like that if you watch the whole thing you become invested in the personalities taken over kiss and so then you feel like you're part of it and we'll go and we'll go support it. I think that's rat people wicked for real and at the end. They take off their masks. But it's just make up underneath every one of them is Bob Gulick. I heard that the TV show is going to happen. But it got scrapped. Benny Benson said he wanted to audition. No he was going to be the star but he didn't show up. I was GONNA show them a banana last minute. He wanted a extra money. So right speaking about Kulich. We had a question for mark. Ledley sang a fob. Q replaced ace. What would his character be? His suggestion was the clown and say the eight ball eight. These pain his whole head white. I'm the cue tip all right. Another question assuming mark. Saint John was never born. Who would you rather here? Play on. Analyze events on our Bruce Culet. I would say that events than even though I think. He's a scumbag. Yeah would have been better songwriter problem. Yeah Yeah I go benny. Yeah I guess I go with Vinnie. Vinnie Vincent was going to back then. At least at his own flair to it and really make it his own where. Bruce at that time is just going to be in there doing what he's told but then if you've got a Vinnie on it then he only plays on a handful of it and he got a bunch different guitar players in there to teach him a lesson in humility. I'll say bruce I don't know why not. I'll just go against you guys. That's my job for this Whole episode you Bruce. Because he's newer bruce because he he wrote all the new metal stuff on carnival soul. Yeah Yeah you'd think he did. It was Bob Guides of talking about a lot of ninety rocked a lot nineties metal metal albums on on your show on the District of Columbia podcasts. So when are you GonNa do the kiss? Carnival of souls episode. Actually have to listen to that first. Jesus Chris to me you should listen to it. I bet you like it now. Irony of. I've already listened to it in. Bach owes my entire. I was like Jesus. This is awful damn. I love that album. Yeah we're we're going to say that for Christmas in July. That's one of our new ideas. Yeah Fuck Instrument. What is that Shit? We're very original. You know we don't like old ideas right. Boss new ideas new ideas that you call to me boss because he does absolutely everything and I just show up and and and tell jokes that he doesn't get 'cause they're too old so yeah he's boss but he's kind boss though. He shows up until the budget jokes. That I think are new and then I just realized their old tragic news every every time you get done added an episode. He's like you asshole. That was a red buttons joke. I'm like red but I'm home. S You are and this is a question from Rob Web. It says if you were marvel baddies what or who would you be or or Gaz metron slash a master of puppets slave with grinder ironman or you. Simply creatures of the night open to suggestions. If you were a marvel batty who would you be? I don't know anything about comic book. So I the no no input on the baddie. Just a bad guy. I would be devereaux. 'cause I WANNA kill Kiss Alphabet. Stop Barbara D. Can't even come back on that one. That's awesome man. All right. Here we start ripping destroy live a few times that I actually would have been really cool. Fight broken that out all right. Here's from from Christopher stokes if Patty Smyth from scandal whatever place David Lee Roth Van. Halen like ED originally wanted. What do you think would have been? Do you think they would have still been successful as they were with? Sammy you go first. Oh yeah because it would have been you know kind of like the same shit but with balls. There's just there's some people you can't replace and you can't replace. Dave dipped to me replacing. David Van Halen would be like replacing. Eddie van Halen. I mean that is the the Jagger Richards you take either one of those out of the equation you and you don't have it. I mean you kind of tell the same even going Dave Solo stuff as much as you know. Of course I prefer that over Van Hagar Shit but there's still something missing even even solo stuff at its best. You know with the Steve by Shit like that. Eat them and smile. Which is the greatest van? Halen album I called Van Halen. But there's still something missing. There is some people you can't replace now that'd be like Oh Ronnie James Deals Busy Black Saban's going to replace him with Fred Durst it. You know you you. Can't you can't do that. It's a now I. It wouldn't have worked especially back then. I don't think anybody would accept it Well I guess what I what I was GonNa say was wrong as you can't replace Daily rock with a bitch but they did that with Sammy Hagar. I don't think I don't think it would have worked but I don't. I don't think the other one work but you know it did saleswise. Initially but if you notice being hailing was at their peak dead and then it just kept going down down even as far as sales and stuff so but yeah. I don't I don't think back in the eighties. Metal fans would've accepted that. I don't know man. I think I liked it. I think I would have preferred it. I don't know if it would have made them successful as they were with Sammy. I kinda Kinda doubt that but I would love it. If they would've put those albums with Patty Smyth maybe they would have been a little bit heavier. Maybe they went to Ben Kinda yacht rocky the way they end up being. I like it. I think it's a great idea. They should've gone with. It would have sold more than Gary Sharon. That's for damn she threw me. I'm going to answer for Josh. I did not want to answer. He spent that whole time looking up. Patty smyth is let him answer. How can you take away from that? That grates amy. Hager Era van Halen. I mean He's got a fever. Got Real I think it would have been interchangeable because Van. Halen will pop success anyway at that point. So what the fuck. It doesn't matter right. At least we all agree fuck same. Hagar don't answer. Josh are also wants to know who will be the next big band to headline arenas and he thought unanimously nothing. I don't know I have no idea. I don't know if there's any like new bands today that would be arena headliners. I mean I guess the ends favorite band five finger death punch their headlining. Arenas right now. But they're not new like they're they're not really new handling lending arenas for ten years now so it's like Well I I see Greta van leads. Kinda got some traction. I guess lures still relevant fifteen minutes is over now it could be. We'll see you know whenever band start touring again and they put out a new album but they did pick up some traction. I mean I'm not I'm not a fan. I was kind of like they're not too bad. And then I saw on Saturday night live and I was like. Oh God. That's what they're like live. And that's why they're wearing. Jesus Christ I mean the outfits they had on stage Saturday. Night live Made Kisses Dynasty costumes. Look like fucking hotter than Hell costumes. There's something wrong with twenty something year. Old Guy is wearing birkenstocks. He had pajamas. And Shit. You Know God damn at least. My generation had under ruse. You Know God Damn Yeah. I heard all the hot under talk on your latest episode. That's right yeah I I don't think the interest is there especially in the in the new generation. I think once once our band start dying off you know. House of Blues it is you know they'll probably put ghost maybe into that if they can if ghosts can maybe hit a few more hit singles type thing but I don't know yeah. And where does that leave future generations? I think ends up being the question because what happens. I mean all the time. These bands are dropping off no more slayer tours no more kiss tours no more. Sabbath Nomoreza. These bands are all going. Away are getting to the point where they don't tour no more what happens to the world of Music. Then you know the live entertainment. Does anybody what bands are still going to be around. You know there's gotta be something new that comes out or the whole thing has got a completely change. I think I think you're going to see more festival stuff with multiple bands. Because you can't. There's going to be that many bands on their own that can headline arena. So you're GONNA see more package tours. I think that's just going to be the future pretty well. I think you'RE GONNA see Festivals in Europe but over here you're GonNa see more county fairs Blue Easter Colt coming right at Ya. That's right and avenue record coming out. Yup It's all those Hog Mama's that's right. I know he ends a big cult fan. Oh Yeah I love him but you know I know where I gotta go up. I'M GONNA see Below Easter call. I gotTa go to a casino or fucking fairgrounds but if they come around though I'm going but yeah these you know in another ten years it's going to be crazy to see what the options were going to have for entertainment. I think you're GONNA see again a lot of what we had in the nineties. The bands that we really love just playing much smaller venues but in ten years. A lot of those aren't even going to be touring anymore so it it can be. You can see a total shift. You know away from live concerts because a lot of what's popular today doesn't really lend itself to a live atmosphere. So yeah that goes hand in hand with all the venues that are disappearing too so the next questions are already scaring me. Because they're related to Aaron and I and I can't wait to hear what their feedback guess review to the next one comes from my brother Ericsson. Zac asked how much wound could Chris and Aaron Chuck if Christner Could Chuck Wood I have no idea Aaron. Do you have an answer for this? I do not have an answer for that. I have a question Ericsson Zach. Why are you being weird? Thing runs in the family. I guess so. I don't have an answer. A bunch of question was air dressed like a Jiwa when he sent in that question. Pretty likely I like. Turn it back on him. So thank you all right The great and powerful Matt Porter says if you could create a festival show called Decibel Geek Palooza but with the lineup be. Wow Oh man. I could already hear her talking about what Aaron Spencer will be. Guess my folks enough yes yes. Cheese has with attitude awesome. It pretty boy floyd mouth who figured somebody on your show but yeah you guys you guys forgot local. H and get those guys and love great local and local h ace freely. Of course. Yeah but I don't know if you'd be able to afford that so you might have to get Tommy. There is the spaceman money that way but he got caught. All right so what? What is better if you guys answer? What would buy version of Decibel GIG Caluzzi? I wonder bands of all time. Because if that's the case I know that's easy it'd be like thin lizzy the ramones kiss. I yeah we all know you all your favorite bands bands that our own today or Alice Cooper would have. Yeah of course you. Would you have some Black Star riders on Your Desk? Boogie Palooza Nam kind of off that bandwagon? Fulbe baby. I kind of feel like vobis. I know I know you don't like doesn't like them. Because they came out at after nineteen ninety-five it came out after. Fuck in two thousand fifteen. I don't know that's just terrible. It's terrible about eclipse eclipse would be on that list. Yeah Yeah if you could really get Vinnie. Vincent's like the Vinnie. Vincent invasion up there. And he's going to play for real would you? Would you have a mentor? Show notice how how long I hesitated on that answer though. That'd be awesome like if he was if he was indebted like he had to do it. Like same goes for mark slaughter. You can't back out you have to do this. Show and as guys are forced under you know threat of their lives to go out there and put on the best show that they could possibly do. Then yeah but if you got like if there's any chance that Vinnie Vincent could tell you how it's GonNa go no right. You're saying that if any doesn't do the show he gets launched he like I'm saying it's like by threat of their lives. You know if you like that I still rest my case. I don't want them to do the show. What about Vinnie? Vincent invasion with George Lynch Ego for one stage. Boy I I think this is just a wishlist at in reality It would be stars and mark. Mcgrath's sugar ray. That's what we could afford at the end of the day. I really hate sugary though that first albums good lemonade and brownies with the. That's our goal album Aaron. You like the first surgery. I do like the first sugar ray album that L. KICKS ASS in the rest of their stuff like they would have like to songs like that offer every album. You know but for every hard rock in sugar ray song you'd get a bunch of I just WanNa flies you know so you'd buy the CD and only get two songs off and be like damn you know. Why can't they all be like that first album every morning? I wish I didn't get fired from my lascaux. Oh boy okay. That's woman's a little personal. This goes from Angela. Mashburn who I actually went to high school with. She says what. What sound do you love ripping as Freely Guitar Solo? A David Lee Rob Nice. What's on do I love you? You're sounds of the new. That's always came out like between nineteen ninety four and two thousand and three talk. I Dunno heavy guitar. I don't know all right I'll make you all look like assholes sound of my children laughing. Now you all look like dicks. I also love the sound of your total having run runyon mic. Drop ALL RIGHT. Would you rather would you rather have the agility of a cat or the ability to breathe underwater weird? Jesus scripts because my cancer has cockatiel Porn Star. But that's not on the list Jilani of a cat Aaron. I think I'M GONNA go with agility of cat too but anyway let me pretty awesome. Then she let the last one she asked. I don't know if this appointed me but I passed or from high school because of this question she said what was the stupidest thing you've done just because it was dared and she's involved in the story. I don't know if it's the stupidest thing I've done because I've done a lot of stupid things but she actually dared me. We had art class together. Like ninth grade and we were doing watercolor painting and you know you have that Cup of water that you would dip your paint pen in and it would just collect all the pain because she said I. I dare you and I'll give you like. I think it was like ten bucks to drink that cup of water and my dumb ass actually drank. It never bet a polack. It explains everything I'm sure but I remember still remember this because I drank it down real fast and I was like. Oh that wasn't so bad and all of a sudden you could feel the paint drying in your throat and it scared the hell out of me and I like. I must've drank probably two gallons of water that day. Think being freaked out by it but yeah I survive but that probably explains a lot of the decision making are. Did you shoot skittles for a week? I don't I was GONNA say on the other hand then. He turned in his shit at the end of the day and got a plus from his art teacher emitted into an Ashtray Davis our. Hey Yeah okay like you said a lot of bad decisions a lot of ads. Yeah okay next. Question from Anthony Bone X. What do you think of Gene Simmons tape? I'm GonNa let you guys go man. It reminds me of like Have you ever like in high school when you have like gym class and you're supposed to be doing push ups but you don't really feel like doing 'em so you're just kind of doing the the little half pushups you know? That's Kinda remind me of you know after all the women he's been with over the years. It's nice to see that. He practices safe sex because he wears a condom and he keeps the socks on. You paid way more attention to that tape and expect any also leave his shirt on that. Yes it was onto old man sex with the caliber of squished that he got though I thought she was pretty God. If I remember correctly those are the only thought it was okay but I thought it was. Bullshit that used Bob Kooks Cock and didn't give him credit. Oh I just love it. He got the nickname socks by a lot of fans. That's that whole thing. All right This is from Kristen. Shim back one of our three female listeners. This is what's wrong for you. Yeah out what song or songs would you say? Best describes your life as a teenager and now as an adult teenager. I'd say Youth Gone Wild as an adult I don't WanNa work. I just WanNa Bang on the drums all day again this week. He's an inspiration. What about parental guidance? I know aired an insurer love that song. Oh yeah no no. That was the cool thing about songs like that back. Then at that age you know they were there. Were so many that we're like that that they really the band's Wanda really cash on teen angst and Shit like that. I guess every generation does it because every generations got teenagers. That are confused in. You know. Want to rebel and things like that so I mean those are always the songs that stand out to you because it's like fuck. Yeah you know I'm awesome and then you get olden. Then I guess it turns into like gotTa work I gotTa get paid by the super soccer's I will say as a kid. I like to stay up late all that stuff so You know live in after midnight probably was just a huge one and then now that I'm older and have a lot of aches. I like to take a Lotta painkillers so I mean those two. You're trying to win. All the fans back doing told US never too late to change so proud of you. I thought that's kind of maybe. Maybe an egotistical question. You know you know you could you could pad yourself or make yourself look better so I just while you guys were talking. I'd text My girlfriend from high school and I text my last girlfriend and they both came up with the same answer Don Henley New York minute. I don't know what they mean by that but that's why their XS fucking. It's a race and they lost pound cake or fifty one fifty with the only dance with your mom. All right Keith oil wants to know Chris if you were arrested where you're wrestling fan before you met Aaron and if not are you one now or do you just take it in stride. I was a wrestling fan as a kid until I was about age. Twelve and that was what is Kinda just dropped off the no disrespect anyone who stayed on My uncle as I mentioned in the Patriot on your desk. Vip Go to Patriots. Dot Com slash does And you can sign up and hear stories like that but I was my uncle was a ring announcer so I was interesting a little bit as a kid and then I kinda dropped thank. Although Aaron Aaron connection to it has got me a kind of more interested I catch myself watching like old wrestling videos. Allow on now are Ian. Toomey are either of you wrestling fans at this point. Maybe at this point is a stretch. I definitely will love growing up. I mean I I was really into it when I was a kid. Fuck I I cried when Rick. The Dragon steamboat. Got Hit in the throat my macho man. He couldn't talk yeah. I thought that was real. I remember watching that Shit and so upset but now I can't even watch it anymore. I did get back into it During the attitude era and then once that was over. I don't know it's hard to say because I really don't watch any more but the last time I tried to lag aloe is watch a wrestlemainia but it's I got invested in it. I don't get even are stars like what I grew up with their. What came along in the attitude era but you know maybe if Chimera was. The referee might get back into it. Now is definitely a fan in the eighties and the warrior and Hogan and Macho Man and the over the top characters and stuff and definitely honestly when the attitude era came around. I was definitely not into that kind of cool. Is he looking back on it now? The school but as a kid my dad would take me like the memphis wrestling stuff and trying to remember who? I saw back then like Jerry. The King lawler and all that and to To know that like wrestling fans around the world would have died to have seen some of that stuff and I was Kinda bummed as a kid because it wasn't wwf. But we were still going on like you know Wednesday night or whatever night it was that they would come through but But yeah I keep up with wrestling but I don't I don't get into it and I really enjoy wrestling podcast. Which is very strange. I like listening to their stories. Now they came up and the trials and tribulations and all that crap but yeah. I'M NOT I don't keep up with it but I I guess I keep up with it but I don't watch it religiously. Well now know what your musical tastes. I know you wrestle with your sexuality. You know that the singer do disprese was gay. And I've heard that just Ama- wrestling with my sexuality. You know the INS Lebanon some some rock Alford. I would what you do again. Aaron your thoughts on the wrestling car. I like wrestling is pretty cool yet. Josh that's awesome. Yeah you're right. You know to be able to go to some of those shows. That's as a cool thing about the south. I think you know I moved down here and it was like man. There's wrestling all over the place. And when I was a kid same thing Hulk Hogan Ultimate Warrior the Hart Foundation Demolition. All that you know and was there's just something about it you know. I always like football sports. You know and I always liked things like kiss. You know that we're over. The top and also in wrestling was the perfect thing. And move down here and say you know what I'm going to try to get my foot in the door doing some of this stuff and then later on found myself in the ring with Bret the Hitman Harder Mankind Mick Foley you know or some of the huge stars that I've been in the ring with his trip rowdy. Roddy Piper. You Know Shit like that that it's been awesome for me. But as far as like wrestling nowadays I keep up with it. Because it's one of those things like I always felt like. I was brought up like this if you miss a Monday night. You'RE GONNA be out of the loop because you don't get reruns and you know if you miss it. It's gone because his wrestling. Wwe Raw nitro. Whatever was keeps on rolling so if you miss one you're out of the loop yo. It Sucks. Nowadays it ain't like that would dvr and everything. But I don't know I just don't find myself getting into it as much as I used to. It is TRIPP once in a while like Goldberg's back right now. He's the current champion. That's FREAKING AWESOME. Because that was back in the time that I really dug it back in. Wcw Days and shit. And I don't know always been a fan always loved. It wanted to get involved in it. Glad I am would have fun doing it. Well thoughts on W. I. Like E W. I don't keep up with that since it started up and it's cool because it's different. I think they take a different approach to it. Creatively and so some of their stuff's hit and miss but the stuff that's good is really good. You know and I always because I was a booker at one time. Which wasn't really a booker. I was more just like the writer of it and I would write out the stories for a show. That happened right here in Nashville. That we drew quite a few people every single week. And I'd have to put in the twists and turns and you know the thing I always tried to do is make sure the kind of made sense because I wanted. People mean this day and age people know wrestling. Is You know. It's not an athletic competition but the people who get in there and want to turn off that switch in their head and watch wrestling like you would watch a movie. You wouldn't watch movie and go well. Shit you know I don't I know that's not real. This was all filmed. And that's probably a stunt man. Now you hit that switch and you enjoy the movie for what it is wrestling. It's a little bit tougher because you know it's wins and losses and all that stuff so it was always important to make. It seem as real as possible. Make it make as much sense as possible and so nowadays. I watch wrestling since being able to do that. And it's critical I you know. Oh you shouldn't have done it that way because that makes this look stupid or you. You GotTa do this in order to make that important you know and I always watch it that way now so I can never probably ever truly enjoy it the way I used to kiss. It's now it's not real kiss kiss entertainment right so we got one question. Left and Comes from our friend? Aaron Baker he says. What is the most underrated band of all time? And why is it then Lizzie? So of course I'm going to agree with. Aaron is the most underrated band of all time so I could curve. But I'll leave it to you guys to decide. Who Do you think the most underrated band of all time? That's tough question because it's all perspective. I think thin lizzy has got a lot of fans. I think they're pretty well rated. I'd say underrated band of all time because I had to pick one. I'd go with Ban that I really really love that. They only came out with a one album. They never had a chance to make it. And that's a band called pariah they were from Texas and they only came up with one album. Called Tha Maka killing bird. But the album's freaking awesome. I love the whole thing. But nobody's ever heard of him so I'd say they're a little more underrated than thin lizzy. At least people know thin lizzy is to me. What you who? Who's the most underrated band of all time? Great I'm GonNa Pass the information. He has somebody whose mind God of I don't know man that that's that's a deep philosophical question should ask this before we went to the bathroom. Yeah that's the thing about philosophy. It runs through you. That's David Lee Roth by the way Oh Man I don't know I don't think kiss gets enough love. There's not a shows about Many episodes about him I I don't know this is a really tough question. You know because there's bands that I liked. That don't have enough exposure but to say the most underrated Band of all time low. God and I'm really drawn a blank. Here I would I would. I don't know out of all time I would say out of newer bands. Of course I'M GONNA go with uncle acid and the deadbeats because I think they're absolutely amazing and they don't get the attention of like a ghost but they don't have a stick like ghost does but I think like musically you know. They're they're far superior but and I love ghost but I think you know. Dick carries them along way and uncle asked. I think is amazing. Musically put on a great live show but for some reason at least in the states. They don't get the attention they deserve. It makes me think of another one in this abandoned that you turned me onto that freak in love. That's awesome that's newer. But they don't you know I don't know it's just tougher a rock band. Nowadays I guess but that Ban. I'm thinking of his orchid. Oh yeah great band. I turned my father-in-law to them. And he just freaking loves that band if you like Black Sabbath love Orca. D- yeah definitely. I'm waiting for them to put out a new album They just really haven't done anything. He keep hearing rumblings about a new album but I really think they hurt what momentum they did have 'cause it's been a while now put anything out and I'm afraid even when they if they do do something again they kind of lost a little bit of is that they were right around the same time is acid and ghost and all that coming out. And this resurgence of a retro type sound but while the rest of them keep going just taking their sweet ass time but yeah the great band. I'm going to go with Metal Church. I don't think they get enough love and I think it was a lot of lineup changes and things over the years but You Know First. Few albums amazing. And then they've come back around and the last Last few things they've done have been amazing to so cool medal shirt while surprisingly old for you just like my co host. Can I say you like them? Young just running. I took both these guys to a strip club here. Called barely legal. And they're both like a little long in the tooth when he was saying ron running also likes things that came out in the in the nineties. Mothers get a slander lawsuit for Machen. Wrong from that reminds me haven't yet definitely want to subscribe to Decibel TV especially in these times. I'm sure you're watching a lot of net flicks so you know rock and runs over there. Doing good stuff he's doing s. t. f. you tell smokey. Tv will be up until Rock and run runyon accidentally uploads something from personal files and he is also up for parole. Everybody you know right in and give them a good word. God okay. So we're done with all the questions. Let's give a final plug to Dams Linda Stresa Ika Ian. Go ahead It's the outlaws in podcast. Ika and Yeah we appreciate everybody's tuned in so far but we want some more listeners. Like the Mugere. You know. We're trying to get that mugere money you let we stole your gigs of the week. So you know everything bug it. I and Josh. Why don't you tell us where people find danger? You danger me danger. He knows you're making fun of him. Because that's a new kiss song kiss featuring Fred durst only for lucky. No the DIABLO's podcast. Podcast can be found anywhere. You find your fine podcast apple podcasts. Google play spot. If we're on spotify I don't know just what I've never heard of that. Yeah well it's it's one of the fastest growing podcast platforms out there. That seemed to knock off a few shows and they're the only reason we're still on spotify. Is Josh Plays Music so new? It hasn't even been released yet so we don't get sued. I don't know man. I just had to play. She looks like a foot or something like that. My Blue Star Colts of foot. She's as beautiful as a foot foot a real song. You don't know it into the latest episode of Diablo inbound again. You will find out yeah to me. Light it by the way this jam. Wow better than just priests where you're really winning over the listeners. Their boss in wrestling terms. I'm what's called the? He'll we invited you guys onto you. Know kind of get the word out about your podcast. But I think you're doing it all wrong. I don't know though I mean the show already had a he'll before it changed names. If I'm all about the Muslim wronging I go. I mean I don't what I'm saying. All right awesome wall was good. Have you guys on with us as always I WANNA do a little experiment and it goes good? Josh you come back on try it again but in would you mind sticking around with me for a moment helped me out. No problem awesome. Josh is good. Talk to you man. We'll break down that cigarette lemonade and brownies. Soon she sounds good. All right. You guys ready to play the game. What are we doing? I don't even know you're GONNA love this. Hang on let me bring up whiny okay. So you know it's time of you know self quarantine everybody's praxis social distancing and everything and he kind of stuck the house and your mind starts rambling. So I decided I was going to create my very own. Guys are GonNa love this because you're the first two contestants on ABC's Rock and roll game show. Yeah are you excited to be here? Yes Sir all right. Here's how it's going to go. Eleven rock and Roll Trivia questions. They're multiple choice. You get four choices for the answer. So player one will be Chris Player. Two will be in so when I asked the question. I'm not going to reveal the choices player to will get the choice to bet against player one so for example. Let's run through a sample one here. I made it real easy one for you so I would say okay Chris your question. We know Anton figures the drummer on kisses dynasty and unmasked albums and as a member of frailties comet. But he's probably best known as the drummer for the band of this. Tv show hosts show so then at that point. Since it's your question in I will turn to you and say you WanNa bet against them now. Ian Doesn't know the choices. Chris doesn't know the multiple choices so Chris than in you decide and say during away. Chris knows that so if Chris gets it right he gets a point. You Bet against him and he gets it right. He gets two points if you bet against him and he gets it wrong. You get a point. I think I think I got this worked outright. I might be complicating things. So get can't do the over under that. He'll get it right but being polack hill spell the name wrong mispronouncing. I'm sorry can't accept that Lerman so then at this I'll give any him at this point you'd say okay Chris. I bet against you Chris and I would say okay. I request again. Choices are David Letterman Conan. O'brien cj Leno or Johnny Carson. So you would choose the correct answer and then you get two hundred points or two points. Let's just keep twos so you get two points so then it becomes ends turn and it goes the same way but opposite got it. Yeah I get it but I just WanNa make sure you know you're not going to give your co host a softball question. No because it's all at random this fair you know. I asked him where the clitorises you know. I did a chance here. Last time I checked I was married in. You're in that's right because I'm smarter. Okay all right so those are the rules. You guys ready to play. Yes okay so for the very first question and this one goes to Chris. Don't answer yet question number one in one thousand nine hundred seventy one. Fog Hat was formed in London by three former members of which banned so andy. Thank Chris knows the answer to that. No okay so now we go back to Chris. Your choices are a Steppenwolf in wolf be big brother and the Holding Company see Savoie Brown or D. Wild Cherry. I would say see Savoy Brown that is correct and so in you bet against Chris and he got it. Anyhow Chris. That's two points totally guest. Now see that I knew the answer. God Damn Yeah Nice all right. Well now it's your turn. This is one. I bet you. Chris wishes he would got Allan. Schwartzberg is a drummer known for playing on. Gene Simmons. Nine thousand nine hundred seventy eight solo album. He also played drums on albums for all of the following except Christie. Thinking is going to get this. You WanNa bet against them against all right Chris. Betting against in in the choices are a Peter Chris. Be Jimi Hendrix. See Alice Cooper or D. Meatloaf Get the choices again. Because I missed the letters Peter Chris at A. B. Jimi hendrix seeds in Hendricks. I'm sorry that's incorrect. Allan Schwartzberg did indeed appear on Jimi Hendrix album. The answer was D- meatloaf how Chris Bet against you and you got it wrong so he gets another point dam. You're getting your ass kicked already. We're just on question number two and I hope the people at home listening are playing along all right. So let's see here okay. So then we go back to Chris for question number three before joining ugly kid. Joe In nineteen ninety one basis Cordell Crockett was eroded. For which banned in you think he knows the answer. Now all right Ian Ben Against you Chris. Choices are great white cheap trick. Love hate or pretty boy floyd God no fucking idea. I'm four choices. I'll say love hate. That is correct Cordell cry. It was a rowdy for love. Hate so Ian. You Bet against Chris so he gets two points. Wow five nothing. Oh this is rigged all right in this one. These questions are all at random. My friend and you guys better not cheat cheating. No wikipedia Chris Rock type written. Okay so he. And this is your question after releasing a live album in nineteen sixty nine before the official break up. He was the first member of the Beatles to release an album outside the band. And then you know who the four choices are Christie thinking and knows the answer. I'll say yes all right IAN. Was it John Lennon Ringo Starr George Harrison and Paul McCartney? The year is nineteen sixty nine. Yes it's alive alive album. The first thing a member of the Beatles releases outside the band but the band hasn't even officially broke up yet. John Lennon you're correct and since Chris did not bet against you you get one point on the board all right so we're back to you. Chris. Oh this is one. I Bet Shean wishes he'd got to before joining anthrax in nineteen nine hundred eighty. Three Dan Spitz played with anything. He knows the answer to that. I bet you do. Yeah I know I do. I'll say doesn't know it all right Chris your choices overkill testament intruder or spread-eagle ooh I'M GONNA say over till it's correct. Okay now there's no way a pull this smart come on come on. Let's two more points for Chris since you bet against them. I hope there's fifty seven questions we're only going. We're only going to eleven. Because that's what the Aaron Camaro Rock and Roll Game Show. Does all right question number six so this one is for in which of the following bands has not released an album so far in two thousand twenty. Chris think ends up on his current album releases. I'll say yes. 'cause they usually follow up pretty close by alrighty in for one big point. Your choices are Ozzy Osbourne Simple Tura Body cone and Rob Zombie. Rob Zombie is correct INS. Got Another Point Yup. Those other bands all came up with albums. What does it now to two twenty two to seven shit? All Right Chris your turn which of the following rock legends were not born in one thousand nine hundred forty six with a five year. Difference Anything Chris Noses not born. They're not born. There's an forty three three of the four. Were born in Nineteen forty-six the one that wasn't is either five years older or five years younger. Will he be able to get rinse? I'm betting against them all right. Chris. Here's your choices robby. Krieger of the doors. Mick Mars of Motley crue Bon Scott of ACDC Freddie Mercury of Queen. One of these either five years older or five years younger than the rest. I'll say Mick. Mars is correct mick. Mars five years younger the rest of them born in one thousand nine hundred forty six in you bet against Chris again. Good Lord you two more points. It's Marco Polo okay. Wow Ninety two all right in here I got one for you. This is a good one to like this. I went to bed. We'll have the answer to this without the help of my good friend. Victor Ruez and your question is this in the twenty eighteen podcasts kings tournament which podcast eliminated three sides. The coin in the very first round by wapping eighty-three percent margin Christie. Think Ian Remembers. The podcast kings tournament. I bet he does. You WanNa bet against them. Now Betty all right in here. Your choices. Pod kissed the C. G. M. Podcast podcast rock city or rock and or roll. Remember this come on. GimMe repeat the answers to one. More time pod kissed. Cg SEE 'EM PODCAST. Podcast rock city or rock and or roll one of these podcasts. Whip three sides of the coin in the first round by eighty three percent. Podcast rock city. I'm sorry that's incorrect. The answer was an kissed not remember that out too wrapped up Masha. Nearly. Yeah why we won. Kristen vote against your bed against you and you didn't get it corrects. No points awarded. I miss that tournament. You're the there's one that was fun all right Chris. Your question which of the following bands has never appeared on Saturday. Night live as a musical guest for bands in the list. One of them is not a band who's ever appeared on the show in you think he knows his Saturday night live. Yes all right. Chris your choices. Acdc LIMP biscuit aerosmith skid row ACDC. I'm sorry that's incorrect. The answer is Limp Biscuit A. Acdc was on Saturday night live. Yup in later years. Not when they were young same with aerosmith they didn't they weren't in on Saturday. Night live in the seventies or the eighties. They are on ember right. Did you bet against them or no? No I bet that he'd know it. Okay Zero points awarded you. Let me down every time. Lock love your brother. All right in your question on Nineteen Ninety-four Nativity in black tribute to black Sabbath album. The band therapy with a question. Mark teamed up with which lead vocalists to cover iron man. Chris Thinking remembers this album. I remember it Also yes he remembers it. All righty and the choices are Ozzy Osbourne Bruce Dickinson Rob Helford or Peter Steele Dickinson. That's incorrect the answer. The Prince Darkness himself is Osborne. Did that on purpose. You asshole so no points awarded there. It's going to be hard to come back on this one. Because there's only one question left and Chris goes to you in the seventies. Alice Cooper formed a private drinking club known as the Hollywood vampires which of the following was not a member. You have four guys here. Three of them were members. Alice Cooper's Private Drinking Club. They'd go up in their little private loft at the Rainbow Rock N. You think he knows his stuff. Yeah yeah he knows this one all right. Chris your choices. Jim Morrison of the doors. John Lennon of the Beatles. Keith Moon of the WHO or Micky. Dolenz of the monkeys. Ooh All of them are part of that I'll say making Dolan's that's where you would think but the guy from the monkees was only a member of the Hollywood vampires. He threw that question. He knows everything. Jim Morrison was a good friend Alice Cooper's but he was not an official member of the Hollywood vampires. He died before it started. You knew Mickey Dole's than that. I call bullshit know that you say that I'm dumb because I'm a smart that I'm diabolical. Row the GATE I. It's all part of your ruse Way Too much right too much credit so the final score on the inaugural episode of AC's Rock and roll game. Show is Kristin Zach score nine Ian wildly scored to the harder to do so I wanNA recount. Was that good you like that. I did I other than the outcome. I enjoyed it thoroughly nice. I enjoyed all so I guess maybe next time if we're still in quarantine of come up with eleven more questions and see who has what it takes to step up and challenge. Kristen Zack for his championship. Socketed each wrong. At least my questions are hard and they make you think. I like the idea of people listening at home. Somebody's nailed every single one of them. Well least I got to write if you would ask my boss. You know all those questions were before nineteen ninety-three. He would've probably known one about limpest skit. He said Lee. That's easy limp. Biscuit never played on Saturday night live otherwise I'd have the I'd have it on my phone right now next time. All right someday you can reach Hallaj. I WanNa know what God Damn Jimi Hendrix Schwartzberg plan. Hang on I can all know it was something that came out. After he died that they had to go back over the drums on technically he was on Jimi hendrix album. And that's the crazy thing to he played on Peter Chris's solo album as drummer on Peter Criss album peer Chris Drum on his own shit. You know I wish you wouldn't have fucking wrote a song on it either. Amen well awesome. Thank you guys for participating in my trailer for my new access TV. Show like it all right so. I guess that wraps it up for the quarantine episode volume two. We know you guys are bored. You Ain't got nothing to do so we made an extra long thanks for participating in my experiment. If you think you got what it takes to defeat. Kristen Zach and take the championship. Let us know on facebook page. I just want say you know if you're quarantined at home and you're bored come on my new show dumber than polack real. I've got to give you like a real legit bog go there. I thought it'd go over your head Three Hope uh-huh.