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"saudi arabians" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"Subscription, you get the what you, whether you pay for it, or you get it for free, you get the electrical buzzing noise that comes from my microphone. So I support box of neutral so I can buy a new cable. Use during the week, we want to talk about circuits that might be popular, might not be Las Vegas, is reportedly ready to arrive in Formula One in 2023, a circuit that will involve the strip, which is where the things are in Las Vegas, I guess. It's going to be on Thanksgiving, which might mean something to you if you're in America, the fourth Thursday of November. If it doesn't, then it'll just be another race. A yet another race in Formula One. And in the United States, which means it'll bring the United States a number of United States Grand Prix to three. Which is a lot. Yeah, I mean, there was someone on Twitter. I don't have it in front of me, but the message was, I remember a simpler remote innocent time when Formula One used to treat it's North American audiences with such contempt that in the broadcaster would play a race. You want to watch a rice? Three 28 a.m.. Please say everyone. And now it's absolutely gangbusters. I can't wait for a while. I wonder if it's probably wasn't at the Oscars. I wonder if Chris Rock would have had something. I even met that. The first time in human history that Will Smith has uttered a curse word. I feel like in the ease of all of his claim wrapped in music and cinematheque. That's the first one ever heard him utter the F word. It's true. And he said it very loudly but there you go. I hope they bring back at least USA east USA west's names, although then I don't know what you call the one that USA central. Central that'll be all right. I could get around that. It has gone absolutely mental as it in America, not only do we have many fine people from the states in a Discord channel, which you can join if you go to box neutral dot com, find the link. But of course, the drive to survive thing has been very popular. I've almost get tired of saying it, but it is, it has a lot to do with it. But I thought it was interesting this week, is that, of course, off the back of the latest season of drive to survive, which I haven't finished yet. I've got to admit, but I have started. There's been a lot of complaining, a lot of complaints not only from fans, but also from drivers, increasingly, we know Max Verstappen doesn't allow himself to be in it. Yeah, a lot of opt outs. Periods was quite disappointed. Yes, he suggested that he won't fully opt out but will give them less time, because apparently he invited nip for Netflix asked and he said yes to Mexico and they spent like several weeks. He was in his space for several weeks. And then none of it made it into the series, something like this. I haven't seen the whole series, I'm not sure, but that's what he said. Of course, Lando Norris thinks he comes across pretty poorly in the first couple of episodes, Daniel Ricciardo suggested something a lot of drivers of sort of called out the fact that there's a lot of hamming up a lot of mayonnaise involved. And now Stefano Dominican Formula One suggested they're going to take it up with Netflix for future seasons. Yeah, it's interesting. It was always going to happen in terms of the growth of it. That's the storylines will become a little bit more ridiculous than people would have I feel like it's the case of the program was devised of a safe forgiveness and not permission in terms of how the storyline played out. So and it's funny because obviously the first season we had was it was Ferrari was the only one that opted out and maybe some other people didn't want to participate, and then eventually it was like, oh no, we need to be a part of this family. I was Mercedes in the first season, didn't win. I think it was both part of it as well. And now it's come full circle. Now it's just like, oh, well, is that how you gonna spin our team in our drivers, then it's a bit of a risk. So, gotta be careful in terms of the hand that fajita because I think it's a bit of a bit of a cycle because I think they both need it's a very co dependent relationship though too, 'cause they both need each other to be perfectly honest because Formula One does need drive to survive I guess promote the sport because it's doing such a great job, but yeah, at the same time you have to kind of fairly depict the storylines, but also the storylines have to be interesting. So I totally get where they're coming from, so it's a hard balancing act. It is, I just think it's, yeah, I think there's going to be an interesting tipping point, right? Of course, there will always be more fans you could bring to form with a one. But it feels like we've brought along so many in the last couple of years. That eventually that reaches a tipping point where you don't have enough people who don't know anything about Formula One. Rocking up and just accepting whatever Netflix of whatever drive to survive slays. Compared to the number of people who know enough to sort of say through it, and I wonder if this is what the tipping point looks like now, like enough people are wise to it. And know enough about Formula One to be wise to it, that we sort of passed that threshold that needs to reinvent itself, which is probably fair enough as well. You know, you can't keep doing the same show forever because, you know, drivers don't change that often, like people will get bored of seeing the same drivers saying the same things doing the same things all the time. So maybe it does need a little bit of reinvention. You'll have plenty of time to as well because Stephanie Dominic Ali during the week has suggested that if one wanted to, they could be 30 races in a season. Didn't say they would be. But he said it could be. So good luck everyone. I hope you've enjoyed your private time while you still had it. And.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"I couldn't even tell you. It would have been. You know, what would have been in the V8 era? I'm guessing. Ten years ago, yes, yes, that's right. It would have been 12, of course, 2012. Oh, yeah, this is the McLaren era. My God, really? Yeah, yes. Yes, I didn't even think about that. You're right, yes, it is the McLaren era. Budapest? No, no, it was Korea. The great Korean Grand Prix. Do you remember when we used to have a Korean Grand Prix? I do remember that, yes. If he doesn't remember what point he scored in the very few Korean grand prixs, surely there would be memorable enough because he only did a handful of us. Well, I'm trying to think I should look this up. When he debuted in 2007, did points only go down to 8? Yeah, it's still not really an excuse. Yeah, so then go. So maybe, you know, he's regressing into his mind. You know he's forgetting all of the success going back to when he was a child. But that really summarized how depressing his day was finished tenth. Mercedes car still no good. I don't know what they're going to look like when they get to Melbourne. Likewise, McLaren. I mean, they looked a bit better actually than they did in Bahrain, but still, you know, the outskirts of the points, at least Lando Norris knew that they were points for the low paying places and shame Daniel Ricciardo retired, but he's having good race. In fact, a lot of cosmic Ricardo Alonso and Valtteri Bottas all retired on the same lap, with engine problems. Yuki tsunoda had an engine problem every day Friday Saturday and Sunday so much for that Red Bull bench onto power unit. And him Perez gasly all have already taken power unit parts to build a penalty. It's very old school Honda. It's very classic Honda at the moment. I've got to say, yeah, so if you can't say Honda I guess because they no longer paying for that privilege. It's very classic Red Bull powertrains. It's like the opposite of Braun with the nil percent strike rate of reliability. Quite literally. Every race they've had, they've had issues. So two Grand Prix is down and they're at nil, I love that threat. I don't even know what it means, but British people like to say it to Jeremy clocks and walks to the sides. And let's just finally, we've got a touch on Mick Schumacher's crash. It was a big one, big boy. In qualifying in Q two, he was second hospital. He's fine. He did not race because Haas was worried that they might be another crash and then they wouldn't have a car to bring to Australia, so they decided to be better just to go to Australia. Which they did. But I think what's also interesting, I guess this brings us back to the discussion about Saudi Arabia is that it's not only the context of the race, but quite a few drivers spoke about the safety of the circuit, the fact that it's sort of too fast and too blind to be too fast. It's too fast and too furious in other words. Which is just no, it's no good. We all know that. I think that there's a track that appeared on the calendar to be the fastest straight sick, the one with the most corners. And Max Verstappen sounded really well. We said most of them are really just stripes. There's no reason for them to be corners. It only makes them dangerous for no reason. There are only 7 breaking zones at this 27 quarter circuit, by the way. So it's not really. So how do you know there are 27 corners? That's like, I thought the Nurburgring. Yeah, yeah, because most of them are rubbing. Most of them are just like gentle bins. But that's the way it is, but it makes them blind and make some dangerous and of course an ought to concrete walls, virtually no runoff, even the previously very wacky Azerbaijan circuit has run off areas at the end of straights like a conventional straight track. So I do wonder whether, you know, if the circuit comes back next to you, which you probably will, if it's going to look a fair bit different to what we got. But obviously, thankful that Mick Schumacher's okay wasn't the only driver was injured. Was it had drives in F two have pretty big crashes in simo places every day this weekend as I feel like was the case last week and there was a big crash and I think when F one drive was a happy to admit that they don't love the safety then something's probably wrong. Yeah if she thinks a few things to unpack from this weekend by the Santa Fe. So for the interest of safety and making a political point, I decided not to wake up at 4 o'clock in the morning and.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I came home. Obviously at that time, everybody didn't think that the lockdowns were going to last as long as they did, and it Melbourne in particular. I know what they had the world's longest lockdowns is really, really hard time for that city. So I think everybody's just look forward to the Australian Grand Prix having to see me a great spectacle. Unfortunately, the home driver, as we've said, isn't going to be in win contention. But just celebrate, because this is what life is all about. I think the last two years have taught us nothing. It's that people really care about these events, sporting events, music events, the theater, life is for living. So just enjoy it. Just enjoy it. And that's going to be my plan. Yeah, when I get on that plane in a week's time. Thank you for letting me just ran on about my life. No, it's not a rant at all. It's a fascinating story about, you know, obviously there's people had much bigger problems than of course than what we went through. But I was always a very interesting story that a very personal story to you that you finally got that dream job and it's Friday or it's Thursday in Melbourne whatever day it was. I remember being back at the office in Richmond and just saw these calls going back and forth with you and the management and how do we keep our staff safe and do we bring you all home immediately and what's going on and yeah, it was a strange time and I'm glad it's behind us. Ticket sales have been high for the Melbourne Grand Prix, but they won't be a record on the day of the event because they are limiting them and it might well be a record over the course of the weekend but there were some I think what they're struggling with in the area are labor shortages which were seen at a recent sporting event and where there were these huge cues that the burger and hot dog stands and things like that. And so they have decided to not do a full on record number of tickets because there is a huge interest in Formula One coming back and so they say they say it's covered it's sorted normally I think the organizers said it would be sorted a month before or something and it's going down to the wire, but they will have the staff. They will have the right amount of people. To look after the ticket in ticket buyers buy that event we're really looking really, really looking forward to it and we can't wait to get that coverage underway. Thank you very much for listening to the auto sport podcast.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Like Carlos Sainz, I think, has been one of those people who's jumped from team to team and just very quickly picked up what it is that they are that he's handling. So yeah, it's still not looking rosy for him. I think the point was that he probably would have wanted to come into the season and had a bit more of a chance at getting the results that he was starting to at the end of last season, but the McLaren just isn't in where any of them want. I think Lando coming home in the points at least was a good finish for them. And obviously just missed out on a spot in front of ocon. That's something at least to come home with slightly optimistic, but yeah, there's not really much to say from my partners. There's not really much to say about Ricardo. I think he was, it is what it is. The one just very clearly the one good thing for Ricardo is that it's not like last year, this stage last year where Norris was getting the really high price results. Now, I was he's not going to be able to do that because McLaren doesn't have the car that's capable. But it's not like Norris is in a different stratosphere. If Bottas Alonso don't retire and Magnussen and Hamilton are able to pit when they want, I don't think Norris is in the points. So it's not like they're in a different class, but the reason why Ricardo shouldn't get a pass what happened last year is exactly who you just named Carlos Sainz Jr. also changed teams and didn't struggle at all. That's an interesting factor there. Yeah, should gasly was 8th just behind Landon Norris and he sent me another driver. Something that came out after the race, he was in intense pain for the last 15 laps. He said the last ten laps in particular were almost excruciating and his mechanics actually had to help him out of the car. Once he'd stopped in park for may, he said he had a stabbing pain in his intestines. That it got worse every time we turn left, it got worse. So obviously hoping because that sounds like appendicitis to me. So really hoping that it's I wonder whether it might be extreme dehydration or something, something that's just not gone right, but yeah, oh God that didn't sound comfortable. So for him to have actually done somewhere, there's a lot of medical support as everyone knows that at any Formula One round and so he's got the best people around him to work out what's going on there and hopefully it's something that he can as you say like a dehydration or something issue that's nothing more and more serious. Looking at the drivers championship, Charlotte Clare leading with 45 points Carlos Sainz with 33 points. Max Verstappen in third, getting obviously his first points of the year on the board with 25 points. George Russell is fourth on 22 and Lewis Hamilton somehow in 5th with 16 points but already that gap starting. Another funny moment was the fact that Lewis had to ask if you got a point for tenth. He's so not used to finishing in those positions. He's like, do we even get a point? Can't be true. So Bono, Bono came on and told him he was tenth, and Lewis was like, do we even get a point for that? Here we go. I've come full circle now. Sorry, I don't believe for a second that Lewis had within doesn't know that rule. I think that he's well and truly he's making a point. He's making a point there. He's just gone, oh, I love it. Now I've come back. I'm a city on the city called miserable one again now. Hey, you're heading off to Melbourne in two weeks in time well in the weeks time you're getting on the plane to go. The other side of the world for us at least, and it's been a couple of years, obviously. For listeners of the auto sport podcast, who are new and I can see the download figures they're growing all the time. So we know we have some new listeners that are new to auto sport and listening to us just fill them in and fill everyone in really on what it was like for you. So two years ago, you land the role of Grand Prix editor for auto sport, a role has been held by some legendary journalists over the years and that is your first mission. That's your first race, right? So take it away from there. Yeah, so I got my dream job and then the world ended is the short version. Obviously not permanently. Thankfully. But yeah, I had a great start to 2020 I was covering formula E at the time. And we knew, obviously, there have been a fair amount of stuff change going into that year. And I knew what my role was going to be from quite early on in that January. So I went to Santiago for my last formula erase. With Matthew, who's now actually, as I'm sure you can, we've said earlier on other podcasts about Matt joining the F one team. For this year, he came with me because he took over from Marie. So we had a lovely holiday, and at the time we were also because he's so far to go. I was like, we're going to the other side of the world. It's like a 15 hour flight. We're having a whole day after this. Do you want to come back? He was like, yeah, great, sounds excellent. Because that's sort of nice guy that he is. And we were filing random stories about this coronavirus thing and how it was threatening to cancel formula E races and there were things in China. That sounds a bit inconvenient. And then obviously, as everybody knows what a massive massive impact to having all of our lives. But yeah, it was a bit, it was a bit tough, just I went all the way to Australia to do my dream job and it was quite hard not knowing when we came back, what would happen as we all know, to support magazine, had to pause for a little while. Everything was so uncertain, would Formula One itself survive. Because of the broadcast contracts in 2020, it was able to carry on, but I was a little bit. I don't know about anybody else, but I spent lockdown and for myself, so I spent the first lockdown totally solo, so I was kind of a little bit of a prisoner with my own thoughts of as it can happen. But it did, and I'm very fortunate and very privileged that it did. So yeah, I'm just really looking forward to getting to Melbourne, taking that little personal personal box. Just to say, yeah, I finally seen a Melbourne race because what a great city it is. I was very fortunate to have a couple of days instead of going on to Bahrain as the plan would have been to see that race before I came home. Obviously at that time, everybody didn't think that the lockdowns were going to last as long as they did, and it Melbourne in particular. I know what they had the world's longest lockdowns is really, really hard time for that city. So I think everybody's just look forward to the Australian Grand Prix having to see me a great spectacle. Unfortunately, the home driver, as we've said, isn't going to be in win contention. But just.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"Knowing what the stewards are going to do, maybe that actually makes the teams play ball more, but I think that again, that's just going to be something that we have to keep an eye on as we move through the season. Are you missing FIA radio? Yeah, a 100%. Because it was a long safety car period as well. It was. And I think I totally understand why they've gotten rid of it, and not to keep going over last season. But they did look like a bunch of mugs, really, through it. To put it lightly. It just what it showed was that sometimes that there isn't a lot of clarity, or there wasn't at that phase of the race control. There wasn't a lot of clarity on certain things. And I think it's to do with the fact that F one is has a bunch of very convoluted rules that are open to interpretation. So it's actually, unfortunately, something that isn't going to go away overnight unless they tighten up those and have black and white rules. But I don't think as a little bit like we touched on with having DRS or not having DRS. I don't think we'll ever be satisfied. In that sense, I would prefer things to be more black and white, a little bit like akin to the whole track limits of the white line. Sweet. We can get on board with that. And I think there does need to be a little bit more throughout F one's rule book of that happening so that we don't get those instances where on the race control radio that we're getting any kind of well, we don't know what's going on at all, actually aren't these teams telling race controller rules is not a good look. If they get that under wraps, then maybe it will make an appearance again, but I think they got burned by it so much last year. It's just going to be something that we now don't have a look in anymore. The relationship between teams and the stewards race control. Yes, at times, a little fractious last year, hopefully we can not talk about 2021, too much and move forward. But that leads me nicely into talking about today's sponsor of the podcast. We can't make this show without our sponsors, and obviously without you listening. And if you want to support our sponsors, if it's of interest to you, let me tell you about better help online therapy relationships take work. Yes, if you are on the pit wall talking to race control, that relationship takes work. But a lot of us drop anything to go help somebody else. We'll go out of our way to treat other people well, but how often do you give yourself the same treatment? You need to look after yourself. You know, a personal story, my wife is a nurse, and sometimes on a Formula One weekend, I can finish it two, three, 4 o'clock in the morning with the work on the podcast and the other things that I do with the team here at auto sport. And then Monday morning rolls around and our three year old baby is waking up and I need to be good dad and my wife always says, look, you don't take care of yourself first. You can't take care of other people. That's her nursing training, kicking in. Well this month, better help online therapy wants to remind you to take care of your most important relationship and that is the one you have with yourself. Whether it's different for everyone, whether for you, it might be hitting the gym, maybe it's just taking the time out, I don't know,.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"I don't think Verstappen wins that race. I think he maybe he gets closer to make one move. And I get frustrated when people are like, you know, in an ideal world, yeah, you wouldn't have the RS. But people do look back 20 years ago and yearn for that era that's always on the cusp of like, oh, it's better back then. It was better back then. Which area are you talking about? You're talking about gym Clark, you're talking about Emerson Fittipaldi. Michael schema, what do you mean? It's always the same thing, right? But those races were people remember those amazing key moments, but it was just tended to be just one. It wasn't necessarily constant wheels wheel fighting. I think with this the it's the same in Bahrain. It wasn't going to go on forever, and it was the same here. It just worked for that period of time. And they're so clever the way they were using it. Max adapted his approach. I think Jesse, you're right. He does seem to be sort of, he has changed, or the early evidence suggests he is sort of paying the longer game that really was evidence today because he had to wait until later on in the stint because that was just the way it played out with tires and he said he knew that I think he was like, I can't do my usual thing and go all out on the attack early on. He waited, he by the time he realized what the glow is doing in terms of using the second ARS to get back to you. He's like, no, you're not doing that again. And what was brilliant was leclerc immediately recognized that. So they both lock up. Leclerc hits on the gas and just heads off. It's like the peripheral vision. You know that helmet cam, you saw leclerc and Bahrain going left, right, left, right, left. How on earth they see anything is tremendous. Just the spatial awareness to know what your ride was doing, you're listening, you're feeling your hearing. It's just tremendous stuff there. But yes, I think people complain if you're complaining about that. I mean, are you ever going to enjoy Formula One? If that's what you're complaining about, you know, yeah. A couple of things that I loved about today was firstly, the two cars, the two teams set their cars up differently. So you had that top end pace from Red Bull and then you had the Ferrari that could pull away in sector one. In the race, it was max that topped out the speed trap at 334.6 kilometers an hour. Bottom of the 18 runners that run was Ferrari. Carlos Sainz, 318 and then slightly above him in 16th Charles Charles was at 320. So you've got an offset there of 14 kilometers an hour and then layer on top that slipstream, then layer on top, the DRS, and there was just that at that offset that made great racing and this new rule set, a new cars where different teams not only they'd look different visually, the bits that we can see. They're setting their cars up differently, but Alex, let me ask you, you're going to be flying out to Melbourne in a couple of weeks time while flying before. Two weeks. It's a week today. Experiment, Melbourne, no DRS. Like, would that shut up? Everybody don't wake up to the race. Right? So that's not the doubters. Would there be a terrible Melbourne race? It's not been on the calendar for two years. I think that's a fair. I don't think that's a fair circuit to test this out on because holy moly. It would stop it would stop. I like the idea of experiment Martin, but please can we not do it outside? That's like, RIP F one, I think. So I think there's three things there and one is to live so relentlessly in the real world. But you can't just have one race run to different rules. I got annoyed about that with the sprint races last year. It's like, haven't fine experiment with race weekend format. Don't have them count for championship points, because that's just not fair, really. And it would be to say it would be the same with Melbourne but I think the bigger problem is you would have one very boring race. They've done a lot of track changes, they've invested a lot of money, that great organization, the Australian Grand Prix corporation. I know they're really we're looking forward to having the race back and a lot of they have had to cap ticket numbers on fairly sure because they just can't get the number of officials and the way things are going to be managed for the COVID rules and things like that. Phenomenal race, I'm sorry looking forward to going back there. But yeah, I just don't think I just don't think having garris would work out, but I think what's really interesting is that don't forget, I think the way they reach those speeds are completely different. So the Ferrari hybrid upgrade they introduced at the end of last year packs one hell of a punch. So they accelerate off the corners really, really, really fast. The Red Bull has a much lower drag philosophy, so it is able to hit a higher top speed, but the Ferrari can get to its top speed quicker. So it balances it out quite nicely. I do, however, suspect that if the rebels were to look out the front row, I don't think Ferrari would see them by the finish. I think it's clearly a slightly peak year car or Red Bull just operationally. We saw that last year when it came to getting the best out of the tyres in what I still maintain was the fastest package last year. They're not necessarily a 100% all over it. But I do suspect they have just a fundamentally stronger package all round. So if it were to be rebel start in front, I think DRS or an earlier IRS, I still think Red Bull wins that fight. Yeah, I think Paris Paris was on for the win today, really. If you hadn't have been absolutely scuppered by latifah's crash. Lizzie, if he giveth, but he also taketh away. I think in the case of Red Bull. It's been a whole 24 hours since he'd been into the wall, so he was due a crash. You've got Alban coming in alongside him on a year out. And with the greatest of respect to Alban, who was a phenomenal racing driver, he isn't George Russell, and yet he's not having the problems that he's having. It is a difficult package obviously he's not where Williams wanted to be. But yeah, struggle was when you third year for Nicholas Steve, that's a bit difficult. It's just very quickly on Sergio Pérez, Jess. I don't know. I have a sneaking suspicion. His tyres did seem to be going off just a little bit towards that stint leclerc was coming back to him. Christian Horner says, yeah, that was the lap they were already planning on pitting, so strategically they didn't lose out they were obviously just completely scooted over by the safety car. But I wonder whether leclerc would have been able to get him towards the end of the race. And then the amount of time I'm sure max would have been his waived by. I wonder whether that in itself would have meant that leclerc just drives away in just about holds on. I'm not really sure. I think the safety car ultimately did destroy Perez's race, but it also might have saved Verstappen's race if that makes sense. It's one of those things like we just all never know where it is, or.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"They were cleverly using DRS and kind of playing mind games at 200 miles an hour, which I just still find extremely impressive. The fact that they can do that. And I know that might sound like a really obvious thing to say, but they're not just knuckleheads with fast cars. They're having to think really strategically. And even as Alex said, there was no way that leclerc was going to, well, he keep maybe he could have gone into the pits and maybe had a go at the fact that maybe they'd have been closer out on track, but I think you're totally right. You're usually a disadvantaged by doing that. So I think that dummy, which he did say after the race in the press pen that it was a dummy that they were trying to get Red Bull to blink. You know, that's clever. And then the use of the DRS and understanding how powerful or it was, to be able to we saw hints of it last time out in Bahrain. We saw the hints of like, if you can hold back and get the DRS, then you have the advantage in the next phase of the circuit. So I'm really enjoying that because I think it's, again, it's not to say that people on the clever before. We've seen it with the likes of I forget what year it was, but Vettel at spa. Knowing that he could get the jump on Hamilton, if he maneuvered the car in a certain way, like we used to seeing this kind of stuff, but I feel like it's really becoming almost like a characteristic of Charles driving style. And I think what really impressed me again today was that I thought that max actually was being outwitted. And I think the thing that I felt may be was that we know how he can get quite hot headed. I thought he was going to make a mistake because he was getting so frustrated at the fact that he was making the move and then getting out done again. But actually what we saw was that max started then playing at Charles game. And I think that was, for me, not to say that he is an immature driver. I think he's a very how to put this politically correct without people coming from me on Twitter. He's an aggressive driver. We know that. And I think what you're saying. What our boss care, so our boss Kevin Turner, chief editor. It comes under a lot of stick. A lot of stick from people who, because he says, Max Verstappen is not the complete package. He is almost there. He just needs patience and a bit more, you know, less ferocity in wheel to wheel action. And so by the sounds of it, what you're saying is, you know what? This season? But maybe max is now he's got the world championship under his belt. He's had some time off over wins. He's kind of come back. No one's ever saying he didn't have guile, but he's just, that's just another bit of his talent that he's been able to layer on top. It's really impressive. A 100%. And I think what I really enjoy is that these drivers have to adapt. In terms of who they're battling against, like who the battles with. And I think that's, again, that was what I think what I felt when I was watching was that that's what we were seeing with max. It's like, he knows he knows where he can apply pressure and where he needs to change his game. And I think we're seeing that more and more as he goes through his through his career. He decided, I'm not, I can't, I'm not going to win the aggression game with Charles because Charles doesn't seem to seem to blink when it comes to max. I don't think, I think he kind of knows, right? Well, if you send it, then we're both out, so you're going to hurt because at this point in time, you're trailing. You don't have any points. So it's kind of up to you, really, if you want us both to crash. But then max decided no, okay, I'll play the clever game then. And I think we've seen that he knew how to play Lewis. He knows how to play Charles. So I think that's going to be something that, as we move through the season, is this still going to be a narrative that's going to make its way through the season. But I guess I did see on Twitter people kind of not actually liking the DRS chess as I was referring to it as it's a bit is it a bit kind of manufactured. And you know that people have a problem with DRS in the first place. But for me, it just showed there's a tool that the drivers can use and they were using it cleverly. So I don't know, like I didn't particularly mind it, but I'd be interested to know what you guys thought. Well, the thing is about the DRS tactical tool versus fast thing, is that it is only becomes a fast if it's the same every race. So if at every race there's a really strong DRS and it becomes a game of who can drive slowest before some paint on a track, then it's going to become a fast and it's going to become dangerous and although we're last year we saw Lewis running into the back of max. Went out without incident today and I thought it was interesting because they were locking locking up and not looking like the complete professional racing driver that always got it totally under control. Although to be honest, the cars do look a handful this year. Sorry, I interrupted you carry on. All I was going to say is that I don't think you have that battle without DRS. I think that there's two things. One, it's not like it was 50 laps of DRS passing. It was a certain specific point in the race where it happened. But without it, I don't think Verstappen wins that race. I think he maybe he gets closer to make one move. And I get frustrated when people are like, you know, in an ideal world, yeah, you wouldn't have the RS. But people do look back 20 years ago and yearn for that era that's always on the cusp of like, oh, it's better back then. It was better back then. Which area are you talking about? You're talking about gym Clark, you're talking about.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"First and fourth and finished. First and fourth, but it wouldn't be the fairytale conversion of pole position to race win. The Sergio Pérez instead it was Max Verstappen taking the win. Over Ferrari Charles Leclerc by half a second with an enthralling last gas battle between the two, Carlos Sainz finishing third as Ferrari extend their constructors lead over Red Bull. Sergio Pérez did everything right according to Christian Horner until that early pit stop that he took followed a lap later by a safety car with the others in the top fight getting effectively a cheap pit stop demoting Sergio down nothing he could have done about that. Let's analyze what happened, how it played out. What an amazing afternoon of racing. Or evening of racing that was at Alex, and Jess mcfadden, and I know it's early stages of the season, but we saw Charlotte Clark pulling on alongside Max Verstappen after they finished the race giving him the thumbs up and in the podium and interviews afterwards, lots of love shared between them, saying they enjoyed the tough but fair battle between them are a relationship there that we hope stays positive throughout the season and talking relationships, our sponsor of the podcast once again, our friends at better help online therapy. Relationships take work. A lot of us will drop anything to help somebody else and somebody we care about, but how often do you care about yourself, that important relationship where you look after yourself, stick around around halfway through the podcast that I will tell you about our offer with our sponsors better help and what we're doing with them this week. Make sure you keep listening. So, guys, I'll start with Alex. New rules, new cars seems to be working out all right then. Or if we just been lucky for a couple of races, that was a fantastic fantastic couple of hours to spend for any racing fan watching today, wasn't it? It certainly was Martin. But I'm actually, I'm glad you come to me first because I've got a pick you up on something you said on last night's podcast, which I listened to, because I'm a diligent colleague. Sorry to hear that. Someone's got to. And apparently I live in a palatial bedsit. You heard that. I do hear that, yeah. That's quite an interesting description of my one bedroom flat in northeast London. I can happily report that it sits between palatial and bedsit. It is neither of those things, charming, one bed flat. I think that would be the description of grapefruit but no, that amusingly greatly when I heard that. But yeah, what a race. It was very interesting. As you say about Sergio Pérez, very, very unlucky with the timing of his stop. I think he was starting to struggle with his tires. I think it looks like if you just hear the one radio message from Ferrari, it kind of looks like Red Bull got dummy into making that stock, but effectively what Ferrari had done is do the opposite. There's no point pitting on the same lap as the car in front of you. You're definitely going to lose out. Well, it's just going to stay the same effectively. You're gambling on a pit stop going wrong, and they don't tend to do that that often it Red Bull. So yeah, he was very unfortunate at the time in the safety car, although Red Bull, let's face it. I mean, there's still must be riding the high of the safety car they got in Abu Dhabi. So I don't think they can have too many complaints on that fund. And then it won the team won the race anyway, Max Verstappen. But yeah, as you say, Martin, it's the key thing here is the battle once again, a thrilling fight to Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc. And I think we're now getting enough evidence to say that yes, these rule changes have really helped. They can follow each other. They can pull off overtakes. They weren't able to last year. But it's interesting, Verstappen says it's less to do with the design of the cars and it's more to do with how the tyres behave, which I know some people go, oh my God, it's still Formula One talking about tires. They are just absolutely critical to the outcome of qualifying performances. That's why Verstappen not necessarily getting the most out of things in both Bahrain and here in Saudi Arabia. But he seems to be thinking that's what's making the battles so exciting. But what I really enjoyed was there was sort of a sense last year a correct sense that it was Verstappen being over the top, the majority of the time going up against Lewis Hamilton, who was choosing not to have accidents. What would happen if Verstappen tried that against another younger rival? And Charles Leclerc, I mean, I've always rated him since I covered him for covered him in formula two. He's a phenomenal driver and showing that he can really, really do it. Wheel to wheel. So yeah, we're starting to see evidence that it is the cars. It is the new eggs that obviously the change to the 18 inch wheels is going to help that. You know, he's going to help he's part of the package of changes. So yeah, as you say, a fantastic, a fantastic racing spectacle. Yeah, a 100%. I mean, this is why we're watching Formula One, right? We want to see racing. So they're delivered, which is great. And very much aligned with what Alex is just said. But for me, I think building on what Alex said and kind of hinting at what you were suggesting there Martin. It was the what I really enjoyed was how clever the racing was. I think from everything was, it wasn't just about who's got the fastest car or where the two top teams today were finding the advances in the disadvantages and using that against one another. It was about it was about the fact that they were cleverly using DRS and kind of playing mind games at 200 miles an hour, which I just still find extremely impressive. The fact that they can do that..
"saudi arabians" Discussed on The Autosport Podcast
"To lead the pack away, for a Formula One Grand Prix, Red Bull's Sergio Pérez said it was an unbelievable lap that put him top of the time sheets and to be pole position. The Saudi Arabian Grand Prix at one point it could have been the Ferrari taking poll, but the way that it shook out with Sergio Pérez will start first alongside Charles Leclerc and on the second row, Carlos Sainz Jr. and Max Verstappen. Behind them, Esteban ocon and George Russell in the loan. Mercedes in the top ten. Followed by Alonso and Bottas also having a great start to the year. Gasly in 9th and Kevin Magnussen took about another great start to 2022. He had a pretty torrid Friday, but recovering on Saturday to round out the top ten Matt Q and Jonathan noble are our eyes and ears in the paddock this weekend in Saudi Arabia, and I'm joined today by Jonathan noble to talk about not only qualifying, which was an amazing qualifying session. A real must watch if you haven't caught it yet and you're listening to the podcast first for a bit of analysis. There was a massive shunt the whole Formula One paddock massive relief that Mick Schumacher is okay we'll get on to that. But let's rewind when we left you last night on the podcast. We thought it was the driver's briefing, which turned into a GPD a meeting. The drivers eventually getting the reassurances they needed from the organizers from security, officials talking to team managers, team principals, and those from Formula One and FIA as well. Formula One at some points yesterday. Well, you know what, social media is like rumors were swirling that the drivers were erring on the side of not racing for safety and security reasons what with that oil facility being attacked that missile attack just a few short miles away from where the circuit is. But the driver's deciding to go ahead and race this weekend, but that went on late UK time, but plus three hours. Very light. Saudi Arabian time. Jonathan noble, it was a strange end to a Friday, but a very, very late one. Yeah, I think the thing on a lot of tired people in the paddock this morning, I think most people got to bed at three 30, 4 o'clock in the morning normally do that safe that on a Grand Prix weekend and it's normally been a pretty good party, but everyone was working here very, very late obviously the drivers made the decision to race on. It was formal communication this morning from F one and FIA that that was happening. And the GPA put a statement out as well about the human emotions they felt from the explosion of the missile and worrying about the teams, families,.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"But that is what happens when like you were saying, if it was on track and not in red flag, that is literally what happened. You lose prices. And I think it was, in fact, the right thing because it would be so much more irritating to the spectacle. Had they said, once the rice resumes, you need to give the position back to Hamilton because who knows what would happen to the race star. This way, it was done once the race started happened. The rest was just racing, like the rest of the race could be cleaned of penalties. So I actually think there's no problem with that. Yes, it looked funny when he forgot what positions they were. But again, no one cares. Because look, I like the guy. Good not even. He's doing great. He had a great race. In fact, this weekend. Yeah, he did. But he's not racing for the title. He was just in the way. And they got rid of him very quickly and it was all over. But all that one side, you know, three pedals in the course of this weekend for Verstappen. There was another 5 seconds in ten 31, the dangerous driving. Yeah. I thought what was interesting though responding to the 5 second penalty, which was essentially driving Hamilton off the track when Hamilton had got around him to overtake him. He said, again, of course there's all drivers do you complain about the inconsistency of the stewards, but pointed directly quoted directly that it was okay in Brazil and I don't understand why being penalized here. This was always going to be the problem with not penalizing someone in Brazil. Yeah. And it's literally happened here. And I guess it's good to be penalizing you because it suggests maybe they've decided that that was not a good person to send. Yeah. But that's the whole point, because if we get to every dog or there's more runoff, and if the incident is more similar now, there was contact in Saudi Arabia. That was a difference. It was very gentle contact because it was not in Brazil, but if we get similar to getting Abu Dhabi, yet a yet different controversial way to settle the title, completely needlessly controversial as well. No, exactly. The drivers should know if there's contact in if things break. If this measuring of carbon fiber on the track, let's be on the pile. And for me, that's the difference between the two. Draw is a very old George cassander. It's not a lie if you believe it. The instances were so different, but the very similar, but enough to be very different. In terms of their outcome. So the moral of the story is that if the drive is just on crash into each other. You can do what you like basically. If it's within. Can't be that hard. It's within the white lines, wherever they are this week. The story next week. And as long as no carbon fiber is removed off one's vehicle, then it's all fine. And the second point is, also, the race director is not. This is a great misconception. The race director is not the empire. The race director is at best the runner. They're effectively they just send a message across. And yes, there's a little bit more to it. There's the operation of the race and wind to bring out safety cars at red flags and. Coordinating flags and Marshalls and what have you. But also a very sort of data knowledge of the rule book. If the race director just says, look, I think if you want to avoid it going to the stewards and having them decide it for you, maybe just for address it on your own first. It's no different. Imagine it's going to a shop and you pocketed. You've accidentally not scanned the 15 cents. You'll love Carl's bag. But you have a, you have an opportunity in which to rectify this. So if you forget to scan it at first, you do have a chance to correct it before a store detective of which I feel it's an antiquated term. You're not stressing what story detectives anymore. I'm not even sure that's a curry pathway being offered every morning. There are no tape courses. I've left anymore. No. Yeah, so to store detective agency. But yeah, so you do have an opportunity which you can sort of write your own wrongs before someone else does it for you. So yeah, for me that's where that situation stands. And it's a funny old world people just want some people complain about our nanny state and others want the works. They want the full cotton wall around them. And it's infuriating, but maybe that's why they're not raw makers of Formula One. So maybe it's for the best. Yes. And just quickly to wrap up this rice podcast on the party by surprising oak on great result fourth old mate Ricardo finally scored points again after three points without waking theme. Very good weekend dream, I thought. I mean, add only in qualifying, but he was on the medium tire where his noses on the soft and the pinched nurse in the end. And then did very well almost finished it was always in contention for third but could have hold forth, but podcast was just too strong at the end. But I do want to make a science on your job without you had a very good race as well. Didn't he finish 9 since May, but good on you. But it's his team, I don't want to talk about, give me right, and finish 15th, one lap down, crashed into Sebastian vet a lot. Which is fine. It's obviously his second last race ever in Formula One. Presumably. He's had retirements before, but I reckon this one's probably good. Yes, this is it. He was speaking ahead of this race on, you know, we're looking forward to the end of the end of his career and he said, I don't know why I would get emotional about it. I'm looking forward to it. I'm happy that it's over. It's nothing sad, nothing bad about it. I think it's good. So you clearly ready to pack it in. Yeah. He's driving standards on the weekend suggested as much wasn't one of his finest races. But it's still nonetheless, I think gonna be weird when we say goodbye to him in everyday hobby. Yeah. And it's nice that we can leave on his own kind of terms and also it sounds like he's copies full with Formula One. I think he's kind of and this is a remarkable thing. If you're new to Formula One, if you're the draw to savage generation. Like having I'm pretty sure you were an avid Formula One fan at this time, but when Kimi Räikkönen was at his absolute pomp and he's absolutely best in it was definitely the McLaren era sort of it was I just can not begin words can not describe just how brilliant he was. It was a different driver, different, well, similar person, but he hadn't won the title. For me, I think it was a case if he won he'd won the title and well, what else do I con to do? It doesn't really bother me that much if I don't win another one. I want a couple more rices in between the crest of a lot of rally cars. He's had another had a very good second innings in Formula One. This drive is that have one crack at F one and are in it for far less than any second. So for him to go through effectively the three different decades. Same with the one from the from 2001. Keep your rocket and it's been in Formula One for so long Fernando Alonso has left and come back. On multiple occasions, so it's not ended on a high, but you know what? It almost doesn't matter. It's a little bit like season 11 with curb your enthusiasm. It's not the best season. And you know what, it's still good. It's the big league with his head held high. This is the part of the show where I get to tell you that support for box of neutrals is brought to you by manscaped. Let me tell you Christmas is around the corner. It is very, very near. And Santa's sack of presents just got a whole lot larger this year because manscaped, the ladies and.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"It's Alonso and Ricardo in the interview pane where they do the post race. Interviews. Verstappen is just starting his final Q three lap to the left that never was. The lap of the gods that did not exist if you like. And their expressions and they talk about a little bit amongst themselves Fernando and Daniel, not a lot, but the way they interact. Just underlines because that's not a friend or one so one of the greats, one of the greatest of all time, January Ricardo also no slouch, clearly well respected as well among the drivers. The way they react watching this lap is really telling about how hard this step is pushing how much on the edge he was, how much confidence he has in that car of what higher level he's operating on. It was a really interesting genuine moment because we often you and I can talk about it well. This is the best season ever, whatever. I would look at the level they're operating on. But when the drivers are saying that themselves, you mean they're the ones who are experiencing all these things we're talking about. I thought that was really the impressive. You can go and find that the Discord channel you can probably have a search for as well. And I will mention just quickly on that red flag discussion that has been raised. We go to twice in from cabinet, who has suggested in the past. In fact, we'll debate this over the off season in the box neutral parliament. He suggested the parliament in the past. Yes. The tyre changes under a red flag should be allowed, but not count to your mandatory one change. There's still the element of lock like if there's a red flag like the rice and it's a multiple stock price. They want that. But in this situation, yes, you could have changed tires. If you Orlando Norris on the soft, you could have got off the soft tyre. But you would still not get essentially a free stop because you'd still have to stop later on. So I think that's a good idea. I reckon that's a cracking idea. So yeah I think it's a bit of both worlds. Yeah, because it does rock really is unusual. There are so many other things you can't do under a red flag period, but you can do that. Which strikes me as hard. I can look like I can understand it when an instance where let's say Azerbaijan, for example, where some of the drivers the tyre degradation was really high. That I could understand, but you can't dictate that all the time. So there are probably instances where it's a matter of safety where it's actually a good thing in the end. But I understand the gradient is surrounding it, but obviously it's gone through some sort of committee where it's happened. We've all forgotten SOI. This rule came in. So it's just unusual as to why everyone's performing it now. But they're the rules of the time. You just work with what you've got. And there's just nothing you can do about it. So I just it's a battle for you not to have to pay for numbers and I'm supposed to be 9. You're listening to Greeks on the roof. We can't talk about this race without talking about the crash. The crash, the big crash. The flash point of the year. Well, it's a third crash I guess of the strictly speaking, depending on if they're a big crash or biggish crash and second oh not the second. I've had many smaller collisions, but this is the third biggest one. Max Verstappen was trying to let Lewis Hamilton pass slow down, dropped 5 gears on the straight. Braking force of 2.6 G at the last moment Hamilton was just behind him, which caused the collision. Got a penalty for ten second time penalty for causing for driving erratically and dangerously. This was I just find this really interesting as a moment though. I want to sort of extract it a little bit from all. Max is driving dirty and unfair. And he's a bad driver and he should be our best camps Australia YouTube channel. You can't put it on that. It'll get taken down. You get a couple. Intended. But I think it's really interesting because.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Box of Neutrals
"With Michael laminata and rob jans. With your husband Tommaso stala and the tomato lamina. Zero points between them after the Saudi Arabian Grand Prix, which means we're set up beautifully for Abu Dhabi, the grand final of our sport. This is box of neutrals. My name is Mike. I love it. And joining me is always is rob James. Whoops. Wrong hand of it. Clearly, I think the one if we have zero points, I feel like forget about sort of conspiracy as to whether FIA bloody, you know, trying to rig the championship or whatever. To be conspiracy, or this is going hard to get zero his fingerprints all over it because it is literally hard to can 0.0% points between Lewis Hamilton and Max Verstappen after the savvy arriving Grand Prix, which again, which will come as no surprise to any listeners I didn't watch. I chose sleep. I may be mildly regretted it when I woke up in the morning because when I woke up the world was a different place. My Friends, it was one of those 5 minutes in history where I went. Oh boy, I was actually due to and catch it, but there we go. So that means congratulations to everybody. I will be I'm a guaranteed starter to walk through the Abu Dhabi Grand Prix. Congratulations. It's a pleasure to have you with us, and yes, it is a dramatic twist, but it wouldn't be anything. It wouldn't even be a patch on the idea that the 2021 season was just an elaborate Honda con commercial at the end of it. They took off their overalls and they were all just giant ironic and bottles on today? That'd be weird. Nico Rosberg. It would be an incredible choice. An incredible Indy. Baby deserved it. The 2021 formula says we're going to talk about the beautiful setup we have in.
FBI releases declassified documents on Sept. 11 attacks
"The FBI is made public hundreds of pages of newly declassified documents about an investigation into suspected ties between the Saudi Arabian government and the September eleventh attackers for more than a decade FBI agents investigated the support provided to several of the nine eleven hijackers when they arrived in the U. S. including finding them a place to rent and supplying financial support in particular agents focused on whether three Saudi nationals including an embassy official in Washington had advance knowledge of the attacks ultimately investigators found insufficient evidence to charge any of the three with illegally supporting the hijackers still a lawyer for the nine eleven victims families says these documents are helpful calling them very incriminating against the Saudi government which the families are suing in a New York court Jackie Quinn Washington
John Zmirak Details All the Times George W Bush Mislead the People
"So in my columnists dream dot org w. e. hardly knew i go through all the times. George w bush misled us when on the campaign trail. He promised a modest are policy modest foreign policy. This man who proceeded to try to build a global empire. My theory on what motivated w though is a is a simple one. When he was collecting his gentleman sees at yale. I'm he wasn't known for schoolwork but he was known for before drinking a lot and playing risk. Remember that team risk. We used to play by certainly do back. In the days of the board games bright he played it every night at yale. And you and i know from having played what is the key to winning. Where's controlling the middle east. That stuck in judges head very little else. That happened second said. But i think control the middle east. That kinda stuck stuck in their long with the advice from his dad's oil buddies. I first of all spent the summer of two thousand one. Ignoring the i reports al-qaeda plans to fly airliners into us buildings there were reports. We've seen them they. He just didn't act on. The planes hit the buildings. What does he do he flies. Every member of the bin laden family out of america instance. First thing he does every member the bin laden family he gets them safely the country. Okay break this down hold on break it down for me and my audience the family. Why are they saudi friends. Who are they yes. They weren't saudi friends his and made sure that every member of that family was safely removed from the country. Within twenty hours was on top priority. He summoned a group of of of muslim leaders and held a press conference the next day calling islam. A religion of peace and saying these attacks had nothing to do with jihad and nothing to do with islam. That was a lie that he maintain all through his eight years in office. That jihad has nothing to do with islam. Al qaeda has. It's just a weird wild perversion of islam. As opposed to what you and i know that it is simply orthodox islam put into practice period. He lied about that he knew better. He lied he lied to america. Ocoee covered up the connections of the saudi arabian government to al-qaeda and now the fbi just last weekend revealed some of the details that at least one. Saudi diplomat in the us was paying for the hotel rooms of the hijackers before they did the hijack.
Biden Declassifies Secret FBI Report Detailing Saudi Nationals' Connections to 9/11
"By the administration has declassified a report. The ties the nine eleven hijackers to saudi nationals. Living in the us victims families have wanted to see the sixteen page report for years. Npr's laura sullivan has more. The newly released report was written by. Fbi agents at the end of an investigation called operation. Encore it examined possible ties between the hijackers and the saudi arabian government. The report does not dry any conclusions about government involvement but it does link to saudi nationals one with diplomatic status to the hijackers far more closely than has been previously known. The report found the two men helped or tasks others to help some of the hijackers and found both men had ties to well-known extremists. The saudi government has maintained that any ties are coincidental and says that it had no previous knowledge of the attacks. The biden administration meanwhile has promised to release more documents. In coming
Oil giant Saudi Aramco sees 2020 profits drop to $49 billion
"Saudi Arabia's state backed oil giant Aramco says its profits newly housed in twenty twenty to forty nine billion dollars Saudi Arabian oil co released its annual financial results a year after the pandemic sent the price of oil crashing to all time lows but the price has edged up as movement restrictions ease still analysts caution that a pagan demand may still be far off despite the drop in net income irem Kerr says it will continue paying quarterly dividends of eighteen point seven five billion dollars to to the commitments the company made in the run up to its initial public offering nearly all of the dividend money goes to the Saudi government which owns more than ninety eight percent of the company I'm Sarah Bassett
Report to blame Saudi Crown Prince for death of journalist Jamal Khashoggi
"Report late this week implicating Saudi Arabians, Crown Prince and the murder of Washington Post journalist John Mollica Shoki people who carried out the murder sanctioned but not the crown prince himself. ABC chief Global affairs correspondent Martha Raddatz on NBC's this week, saying many lawmakers are demanding Biden impose some penalty on the Crown Prince. There's a pause in weapons. They may not sell them offensive weapons only defensive weapons, but it's very unclear what that would be. Adam Schiff is saying. Look, the Crown Prince has blood on his hands. You punished the people who carried out the order but have not punished. The person who ordered the
White House to release new guidelines after Khashoggi intel report
"Covert deaths, a new declassified version of the U. S Intelligence report concluding that Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Solomon often referred to his NBS approved of the 2018 killing of journalists, Jamal Kashiwagi, the officials saying that the report by the office of the Director of National Intelligence, Deanna In coordination with the CIA, concluding that the crown prince approved in likely erred erred, ordered the murder of Kashiwagi, who's washing post column had criticized the crown Prince CNN, NBC and Reuters are among those news organizations reporting that the group which had assassinated and dismembered this Saudi dissident, then flew to Istanbul on private jets owned by a company previously seized by the Middle Eastern kingdoms, Controversial MBS. But at the White House today, this question to press secretary Jen Psaki said. When they Talk that the president won't hold back. Will he be following up this talk with actions are sanctions on the table. E think there are a range of actions that are on the table. But the first step is the next step. I should say it's for the president to speak with the king. We expect that to happen very soon. As you know, we've committed to the release of an unclassified report that would come out from Deanna and not from the White House on. Of course, our administration is focused on recalibrating the relationship as we've talked about in here previously, and certainly there are areas where we will express concerns on and leave open the option of accountability. There also areas where we will continue to work with Saudi Arabia. Given the threats they face in the region. Well, hold up to the phone call. Is the king avoiding your calls? I don't think that's the characterization. The president has a busy schedule. The king. Obviously, I can't speak to his schedule. I'm not his spokesperson, but we expect the call to happen very soon. I think there was an inaccurate reporting about being confirmed when it wasn't a confirmed call. Yet if you have made clear that the president's gonna be speaking with his counterpart with it came with the Crown prince. But given the Crown princess role in the future of the kingdom, and that he is expected to be implicated here, why not speak to the person I expect to be responsible? Well, I think the president's conversation will cover a range of topics with the king. There's obviously A lot to discuss with Saudi Arabian with the leaders of Saudi Arabia, And as I noted, a previously noted the conferences have been engaged with his appropriate counterparts. The president will be engaged with his appropriate counterparts, and we're engaged at many levels with leaders in Saudi Arabia. So will the conferences counterparts here, But often he's teaching him about this issue that he spoke with him last week. They did a readout. I don't think I have anything more about their call from today's White House briefing. We should Point out during a September 2019 interview with CBS is Norah O'Donnell for 60 Minutes. Piece, the Saudi Crown prince denying any knowledge of Jamal cash. Augie's death his answers through a translator. The world wants the answer to this question. How did you not know about this operation about that? Some think that I should know what three million people working for the Saudi government do daily. It's impossible that the three million would send their daily reports to the leader or the second highest person in the Saudi government. Two of your closest advisors, who are accused of orchestrating this plot were fired by the king removed. From your inner circle. The question is, How could you not know if this was carried out by people who are close to you? The only doctors today the investigations are being carried out and once charges are proven against someone, regardless of their rank, it will be taken to court. No exception made. I've read what the Saudi prosecutor has said about those that are charged in this murder. And it's gruesome the details when you heard that people close to you and in your government carried out such a grisly murder, and that the American government thinks that you ordered it. What did you think I could be the godmother of Lord Coffee, Mother, Cutie. I believe what you mentioned is not correct. There isn't an official statement announced by the American government in this rig. Heart. There isn't clear information or evidence that someone close to me did something to that effect their charges and they're being investigated. But again, you cannot imagine the pain that we suffered, especially as the Saudi government from a crime such as this one. That from September of 2019 the interview available at CBS news dot com, and you heard the Saudi Crown Prince to a translator. Again the headline today a new declassified version of the U. S Intelligence report, concluding that the Saudi Crown prince did approve of the 2018 killing of
Suit blames Saudi Arabia for attack at Florida military base
"A new lawsuit stemming from the deadly shooting attack at a Florida naval base in twenty nineteen alleges Saudi Arabian officials knew the gunmen had been radicalized but failed to stop him victims families and survivors of the twenty nineteen shooting attack at Naval Air Station Pensacola are suing the Saudi kingdom saying the deaths of three sailors could have been prevented they allege Saudi Air Force officer Muhammad Saeed al some runny had communicated with al Qaeda operatives before the attack their lawsuit alleges the gunman told fellow Saudi trainees at a dinner party he planned to carry out the shooting the next day none of them reported it now some runny died in the attack then president trump vowed to victims would get help from the Saudi kingdom but the lawsuit alleges that never happened Jackie Quinn Washington
Loujain al-Hathloul, Saudi women's rights activist, released from prison
"Done nothing except champion. A woman's right to drive a car. But yesterday saudi arabian activists widow. Jane hathloul was released after a thousand and one days in prison. Family members and international human rights groups have been calling for her release and an end to her alleged torture. Al hathloul was arrested in two thousand eighteen for leading a campaign to grant women the right to drive in saudi arabia. Dr best mamani joins me. Now she's a professor of political science at the university of waterloo canada. Welcome to the program. How significant is this Lujan al hathloul release from jail. Well it's just wonderful news to be honest with you. I think so. Many of us were worried for her. She's a wonderful person. And i think certainly the fact that She's finally been released is a great thing. But they're still a lot of concern about her situation. And i think there's going to be a large discussion. And hopefully she'll be able to at some point talk about the really the suffering she endured. I mean the photo of her after release. It's joyous smile. But how does login even start to rebuild life after trauma like this. There are allegations of torture during your time in jail. So i think the rebuilding process for her is going to be significant. Certainly of course the the trauma being imprisoned I think there was abuse That may have been sexual nature as well torture from looking at the picture. She's clearly thinner. She has gray hair now and i met her five years ago with not a not a single gray hair on her head and i mean there's definitely a beaming smile in the photo. And that's because she's with her her parents but she still separated from her siblings of course many of which are outside the country and ex husband. You know there was a falling out of of a marriage because of the so. I think there's there's a lot of pain and suffering. I'm sure aside from her parents. You have a sense of what her support system in. Saudi is no i think She's certainly under a some sort of gag. Order not to speak to people and i suspect House arrested is a part of that. So she's not gonna have free movement in any way She has a wonderful family parents. Who are very supportive And have been really behind her from from day one of her activism. they're really quite impressive. People dutchwoman. Let's get to the bigger picture. We know that crown prince of saudi arabia mohammed bin salman sees himself as a reformer. What impact could james release have on the internal politics of saudi. Arabia haven't been really wants to take this as a win. A certainly i think if it wasn't for the biden administration coming in. I don't think we would have seen her release unfortunately so elections matter as they say but one of the things that i think her story will be told hush hush i think many people are discussing it online and certainly social media buzz there some very interesting hashtags and saudis twitter to talk about all these kinds of issues there still a lot of great discontent at the same time. Unfortunately hamad bin salman is seen as reformer in some way internally. He's opened up the country culturally. And and certainly you know. Put down the conservative or religious police which is a welcome news for young people. So you know. I think she she would be to be honest with you and more popular of saudi arabia than inside saudi arabia. But that's partly because of kind of nationalist propaganda that has permeated much of saudi society today.
Biden administration to remove Houthis from terrorist list, reversing Trump's decision
"Is planning to drop the government's terrorist designation for Yemen's Houthi rebels. The designation was given at the last minute on the last full day of the Trump administration. Reversal comes a day after Biden announced to stop to US support for the Saudi Arabian military campaign against the Iranian backed Houthi in Yemen. The six year conflict has claimed countless civilian lives and created a humanitarian crisis in the Middle Eastern nation State Department said the decision will clear the way for more relief aid.
US plans to revoke terrorist designation for Houthi rebels
"Administration is planning to drop the government's terrorist designation for Yemen's Houthi rebels. The designation was given at the last minute on the last full day of the Trump administration. The reversal comes a day after Biden announced a stop to US support. Where the Saudi Arabian military campaign against the Iranian backed Houthi in Yemen. The six year conflict has claimed countless civilian lives and created a humanitarian crisis. In the Middle Eastern nation. I'm
Saudis sporting soft-power attempt
"November twenty eighth the green lights over the greed in jeddah will go out and the first saudi arabian grand prix will into life and though twenty formula one qasr raise a mightily impressive in the start of a race. They will need to rev extra to have any hope of drowning out throughout about the propriety of this event occurring at all a row to which this very explainer is about to make a modest contribution. Let's look at the undeniable upsides. I which one take too long in and of itself. The saudi arabian grand prix will doubtless be a splendid spectacle. It is to be held on a street circuit in jeddah the precise layout remains to be confirmed but it seems certain one part of the track will conduct formula one's spelt machines down the konishi the boulevard which hugs the red sea coast. And the saudis will certainly dredge deeply from the bottomless pit of money to rent the proceedings as sumptuous extravagant as possible. It might even be of crucial importance in the context of next season. The saudi arabian grand prix will be the second lost race of the year. So if two thousand and twenty one turns out not to be yet. Another procession led by lewis hamilton. The wheel of his mercedes come at the calendar man lewis. Hamilton starts an incredible qualifying. They could still be much to play playful when the teams arrive in jeddah. So that's the good news. Then there are the reasons why this edition to the formula. One calendar is the stuff of foreign desk explainers. It is hopefully not necessary to reemphasize the variety and severity of the ways in which the saudi regime is one of the world's most repressive. We do not have all day still less all month. It is suffice to say a regime which ethically inclined businesses would tend to regard from the foreign bargepole formula one does not appear overly troubled on this front in recent years alone. Races have been held in russia as a fan bahrain and china. None of whom would be within sight of the podium at any sort of grand prix of human rights. it is probably not outrageous to suggest that formula one's principal objections to holding a race meeting in north korea. Iran equatorial guinea or turkmenistan would be logistical rather than an ethical. So we know what formula one wants from this. What's more interesting is what saudi arabia is off to. Saudi arabia has some history of recognizing the immense soft power possibilities of formula one in the late nineteen seventies and early nineteen eighty s saudi state airline saudia sponsored the uk based williams team australian driver. Alan jones carried their logo to the one thousand nine hundred world championship. Tell checkered flag often goes allen jones. what a wonderful way to pay is nineteen eighteen world championship. Riyadh's re engagement with the sport is being pitched as part of the modernizing reformist agenda of ambitious saudi crown prince mohammad bin salman though it does not feel untoward lee churlish to note that nba if to whole saudi arabia into the mid nineteenth century have made some distinctly old school d to via for example conducting a ruinous rampage in neighboring yemen and dispatching hitmen to murder a vexatious journalist the un's extrajudicial executions investigator. Agnes calamar has just released a report at pains a- damning picture of saudi arabia's role in the murder of journalists jamal has all of which is tricky to square with formula one's commitment to respect for human rights which f. one has typed out on their website and everything it promises to it says he engage in meaningful consultation with relevant stakeholders in relation to any issues raised as a result of out due diligence. A sentence which could have been designed to lull readers to sleep inside four syllables. Human rights groups are already speaking of their hope that lewis hamilton who barring mishap will be defending his seventh world championship. Next season might get out in front of this. How has grown more politically outspoken. This year in particular among the slogans on the black lives matter t shirt he wore at this year's emilia romagna grand prix was women's rights are human rights. A repeat performance would give saudi broadcasters amusing connections. Saudi arabia is clearly keen on what has become known as sports washing the tactic beloved unpleasant regimes of staging sporting circuses. In the hope that they may distract from your moral infirmities and impressed with your economic progress in recent years. Saudi arabia has hosted international gulf tennis equestrian and other tournaments formula one one of the planet's most popular television spectacles. He's a massive step up.
Saudi Arabia to Host $500,000 Dota 2 League Tournament
"Next thing is also tournament related. This one came out of nowhere. I don't even know what to think so. The Saudi Federation for Electronic, an intellectual sports will be running a five hundred thousand dollar tournament I believe it was at two million ri-als which is equivalent to five hundred, thousand dollars. Between the months of October ninth and December thirty first. This is out of. So. I've obviously had some history Saudi Arabia you know having grown up there and whatnot. So I always have like this. I don't know if affinity is the right word but I root on people that are of Middle Eastern descent when they're playing because it's such a small minority, right? So like Is, basically, collect a collective of a bunch of Middle Eastern people. I don't know anybody like anybody that plays from Saudi Arabia I duNno Saudi Arabia even recognize owed to. Strange. So. So this tournament just to be clear is for Saudi. Arabian players only. Yeah. It's not for the Middle East in general and just called the Saudi Arabian leak. Like it doesn't. Article that we've read what the limitations are for entry. Does five, hundred thousand dollars professional teams of Saudi Arabia region region. Was the Saudi Arabia region as an Saudi Arabia or The middle region maybe it's a sad writing I don't know it. So it could mean a multiple think if it's Middle Eastern, they would have said Middle Eastern. But if it's Saudi Arabian, it could it could mean like some of the countries like around like you know like, Yemen or like Dubai, for example, is probably the most popular eastport area in that region. but I believe five hundred thousand dollars is split between Doda and two other games that they haven't announced yet. But either way that's a shit ton of money Fika? I think is one of them actually. But really out of nowhere. And very interesting. I'M GONNA keep my eye on this one for sure. So it says eight best professional teams of Saudi Arabia region will be competing in the first tournament of the event. So I'm guessing that's And Those eight teams of Saudi Arabia, who are they? What are the best teams in Saudi Arabia? Doda. If United Radio in players, there's not. Yeah I mean it's definitely not a top tier tournament by any means, but is it even to your three? No there's. Player quality I know. I'm trying to think about their some players that might be Saudi Arabia that actually immortal but I'm not sure if they are. I don't think so. It really doesn't sound familiar. So. You'd know better than me. But I've never heard of even one team being Saudi Arabian before so. Question is if these professional teams of Saudi Arabia are allowed to take place from the other regions? That's what I'm looking at here because I know quite a few players from the Middle East that are very high Mr. so if it wasn't Saudi only, you could see some familiar faces in this tournament like for example, offer Moosh or manage or of course. Some of the players from `Nigma if they got into this Yeah. But considering `Nigma haven't announced anything about it. We're going to they're not playing it either because they didn't choose to or because they weren't allowed to I want to say the country that's produced the most players that I've consistently heard of his Jordan would you agree with that from the middle of? The most players you've heard about yeah, which does China, but I don't know if the Middle East Oh. Yeah. For sure I Jordan is the hot spot forever, and that's not that far from Saudi. Arabia? So Yeah. So who who have you heard from Jordan? Miracle. Is One. WHO's the other guy? Might just two people honestly I yep. Sore and maybe there's words we're actually. But even three would be more than any other middle. Eastern. Region because what is G. H. is Lebanon. Lebanese and then. We is. Between Syrian Romanian I consider him Syrian but I know he doesn't because I actually didn't know I thought he was just Flat out the first time I talked with him. I knew he was Middle Eastern right away. Is based on his accent. But, yeah. But yeah, it's really cool to have players in that region and We'll see what the future holds. This is out of nowhere. So I don't know how to react honestly. No, it's been so little promoted. The fact that this article came out after the tournament began it's Kinda. Interesting I, don't know that's true. I forgot it was even October now Jesus. Yeah. The. Going in some capacity, but we just don't know the stretcher.
The earliest human footprints in Arabia
"Now, we have contributing correspondent and gibbons. She wrote this week about the likely earliest human footprints on the Arabian Peninsula high an hi Sarah how old or how early are these footprints but that's a good question. They threw a whole package of dating methods at them and came up with in the Ballpark of twenty, one, thousand, two, hundred, and ten, thousand years old. Now the dates are not absolute. There's some questions about them, but that's a pretty good ballpark. How does this age compare to previous hints or clues that humans modern humans early modern humans were on the Arabian Peninsula. Here's the. We know that early hominids members of human family have been migrating out of Africa for two million years because we find fossils of our ancestors in the public of Georgia we find them in. Asia. We find them in Eurasia place, but we don't know how they got out and the most logical route is they had to walk through Rabia because they couldn't fly. They couldn't paddleboats a at that point the one landmass in the way between Africa where humans arose originally, our ancestors arose and Eurasia is through Arabia. So we know they had to go through there, but there's a huge gap there are. No tools older than three hundred to five, hundred, thousand years, and what is there is not definitive. The only fossil have a member of the human family from Arabia is a finger bone that is about eighty eight, thousand years old. So the mystery is, where's the evidence of members of the human family marching through Arabia, and then the second part of that is modern humans specifically, our ancestors Homo sapiens arose probably in Africa, because we see fossils in the ballpark of one, hundred, eight, thousand, three, hundred, thousand years of Proto early Homo, sapiens arising and Africa, and then we find more of these sort. Of Early Homo Sapiens in Greece dating possibly back to as early as two hundred and ten thousand. So we know that they got out right now we're just trying to find evidence. Is there something that going on in the Arabian Peninsula that either people didn't want to hang out there for very long or that erased a lot of evidence. Reagan. Peninsula, has covered with desert's it's very dry today the food desert where they found these fossils is parched arid but there were periods in the past where the planet was cooler and wetter, and during those times hundred, twenty, five, thousand years ago it was. One of them, it was green radio was covered with tens of thousands of lakes. They were grasslands between them. If you think about these early human ancestors, it's not a separate continent or a separate place for them to go to its Afro Arabia, right? Yeah. So it's an extension of Africa if the client is good and they're following large game, how were they able to find these footprints? This is a very large area and it's a few remnants of human passing through. Yes. So this team will have by Michael, Leah and it's an international team of Saudi Arabians in a number of people on. Has Been doing a search of scouring the deserts of. Arabia. For the last decade, they start with satellite imagery which helps them see parched ancient lake beds which have sort of characteristic white halio souls often these ancient sediments that stand out in the satellites and then go down to ground truth what they see on the satellites, an airplane shots they go in on foot in jeeps, and in this case they saw this ancient. Lake better rolling out as white sediment. It had just been recently exposed by Rosen and they found the footprints of the animals which was amazing and as I looked closer to one hundreds of footprints, it was four hundred mostly animals but they did identify a small number. It was seven that seemed to be human footprints. So they knew right away they were very excited about that that this was something that was important how Can you tell that they're human footprints and not some other upright walking relative? There's not a whole science of studying human footprints ever since the first ones are found in la totally in Tanzania and Kenya there've been a number of footprints that have been studied people use three D morphometric dimensional analysis with computational imaging or can really look at the depth and they could model how much weight would have been needed to make. That footprint, the length of the foot, the stride between the steps, and then they've done studies living people in their footprints in Africa to sort of test out those ideas and Lo, and behold when they do that to these footprints, they seem to come up with somebody kind of humor that was taller and maybe a little lighter weight more like a modern human of Homo sapiens and say an Andrew Tall so based on that. They say, Oh, these probably were made by Homo sapiens although we cannot rule out that nanotubes might have been there to is there anything else can tell about these people by looking at these marks I think if they get more, they can start to tell about their social structure footprint studies in Africa. I've got quite complicated where you could see the direction that they're going in the payson different members of social groups you can. To see what they are the packs of humans look like you know, what size are they how many are in these groups? What are they doing a lot of the way in this case, they're not spending a lotta time. They're just sort of walking through. This is a bantering group. What is really really cool. Though is that footprint site these are a snapshot of a single moment in time a single day most of the. Time when you have an archaeological site in a layer soil that you get the fossils of the tools and the dates, all that took place. This fan is usually hundreds of thousands, tens of thousands of years. So if you find an animal bone near a prominent human early Human Boehner tool, you don't necessarily know fear there at the same time as parch with footprints like these these were lay down in the same day maybe. A couple of days and they dried out and then got caught up in preserved. So we know they were all there at the same time. So you get this really cool day in the life look at the and of the animals they were with, which is really cool in this case and lots of animals. Yes. Almost four hundred footprints of animals including very interesting. A wild asses which I don't think we're carrying burdens but. That's kind of neat and they were elephants and the thing that's interesting about the elephants as their popular disappeared for the Middle East, just in Africa. Thanks for three hundred years ago and here they are in hundred twenty, thousand in Arabia and the camps they also Campbell's it's kind of interesting that such large animals with Aaron. It begs the question were these humans following them where they attracted them. Going back to the, we talked about it being about one, hundred, twenty, thousand years old. There's some question about the date but if that were cracked, is there anything particularly Gordon about this time human history about what we know about migrations that we could link these prince two? Yes. So what is really interesting is that genetic evidence says that everybody outside of Africa. Came from migrations that happened in the last fifty to eighty thousand years. So this state predates that we happen to know that early Homo Sapiens were in the Middle East pretty quickly after this or at the same time they're fossils in caves. At school and cough so that our early sort of product Homo sapiens. So we know humans are at sorta suggests that because we don't have DNA that dates back this early these were failed migrations. These were members of the human family that went out they weren't shelled migrations for them they lived, but they did not contribute to the gene pool of letting people today that's one hypothesis but it also shows that there's more complex story of groups of humans migrating out of Africa constantly whenever the weather excitement is right that it's three to nothing that they can get water follow animals to meet and trek. Africa. They can cross the desert. It looks like humans were doing that whenever they could and so how do they contribute tour ancestry today a really interesting question and how many different kinds of hominids out there. Thank you so much an thank you. Sir,
Bahrain follows UAE to normalise ties with Israel
"Friday president trump announced that Bahrain would recognize Israel and the two nations would normalize relations. This comes just weeks after a similar move from the United, Arab Emirates what to make of it. All I'm joined again by Zanny Minton beddoes and we slaughter and Ian Bremmer in put this in context for us what does this mean? Why did it happen? What does it mean? Well two big things that people need to come to terms with the first. Is that Israel Palestine is considered close to the most important conflict in the region. It is for the Palestinians when you talk to the Maradas with the Saudis, the Bahrainis, the Kuwaitis you'll talk to you about their concerns about Iran they'll talk to you about diversification away from fossil fuels and the difficulties that they'll talk to you about domestic radicalism, all of these sorts of things. And so as a consequence, you no longer have a veto on if you don't get peace with Israel Palestine, you can't move on geopolitics. The second point is the united. States had long attempted to be seen as some kind of honest broker between Israel and Palestine when we're anything but Israel's our best ally in the region, the Palestinians particularly agree with we have problems with and so you know it's interesting trump's first trip as president outside the United States was to Saudi Arabia and then to Israel and those are the two places where he has the best personal relations and that's where they really drove. So yeah, you had the effort to. Talk about peace with Israel and Palestine where the Palestinians weren't even engage a big conference in. Bahrain. Now, you've got big announcements in relation. I think especially from you and I talking to jared through this that was kind of the game all along I I'm not in any way surprised by this. And we. A friend of mine WHO's from the Middle East very knowledgeable about the says what's really going on here this is this is the post American Middle East that is countries like. Israel UA Bahrain Saudi Arabia saying we're GONNA make our own alliances to defend ourselves against the the real threat that we feel as he was saying, which is Iran and we know the Americans aren't going going to help us. So we need we need to band together. Is that part of the dynamic. Afraid, I think that is right that again Obama wanted out of the Middle East. If you if you think about the direct line from his refusal to engage in Syria. And that's actually an area where he his policies and trump's have been closer than than other areas. But I also think you have to think about this in the context of us. Domestic Politics Donald Trump. Has Two modes he can be the fearmongering president or he can be the dealmaking president who delivers and if we're thinking about October surprises up for this election, what he would dearly love is to actually have a treaty or agreement between Israel and Saudi Arabia, which really would redraw the map of the Middle East and the conventional wisdom is the Saudis aren't ready but obviously, the UAE in Bahrain are stalking horses and and Bahrain would not have been able to do this without Saudi approval. So it's probably a low chance, but there is a real chance at least of a framework agreement in which Saudi Arabian Israel would would normalize relations in return for something more something bigger on the Palestinian sought.
One of the Biggest Tekken Tournaments of All Time Never Paid Anyone
"Well over a year ago in March of two, thousand and nineteen, a series of East sports events were held in Khobar Saudi, Arabia including. The True Gaming Tekken invitational this single tournament featured a prize of one hundred, ten thousand dollars USD, which was then the single largest prize pool in taking history for a little context, the two thousand eighteen technical tour finals at a prize pool of Twenty Five K. and Evokes Tekken Prize. Pools are even lower than that and heavy hitters from around the world came to participate. In this thing, I'm talking to likes of Don's knee Chanel. Roma. Are Slash you get the picture from a production standpoint the true gaming tech invitational grave they had an awesome stage set up the stream quality was good. The had commentator and analyst desk great camerawork was clean and in terms of the actual game play competitively, the tournament was great i. mean we saw some of the best players of all time from all around the world give us some unforgettable moments. But after all that confetti was cleaned up after the stage was dismantled in after the community's attention shifted to other events there remained one big problem. Apparently nobody paid. Now this all hit the public's attention in a big way only recently when tech master provident fighting game player and one of the invitees to the gaming tech invitational tweeted about not receiving his prize money from a different event that was organized by the same people. Now, as far as the true gaming tech invitational goes the one with one hundred, Thousand Dollar Prize Pool I talked to tech and master about it, and he said that communication between the players who are owed money in the company who produced the event true gaming hasn't exactly been productive when it comes to when how or infant if they'll get their prize after one month. A number to contact with and every time the new right it's. Like on the process of giving you the process guys. we'd be coming back to you on. Data to and every time like the guy is saying, he did not receive any funding for the first. He's promised to receive it a next month. Don't want everytime delays rate rate until. One year happened instead even. One year under half extra. Here's the thing though true gaming say that they were hired just to produce the event and that the prize money has nothing to do with them at all I managed to get in contact with a guy named a Med almost STAFA. Who is the head of business development at true gaming and he says that the true gaming tech invitatinal took place within a larger event called. Gamers con. He told me that the owner operator of that event, a company called. Tail Events Exhibitions Management Co is responsible for the prize money we correspond over email about it and let me read to you what he told me quote true gaming's role in the event was to operate the competitions and gaming centered activities that have relied on our gaming industry knowledge and know-how. Our team has been contacted by the winners and his forwarded their grievances to k all A and have shared all contact information directly Takeo so that there is a direct. Line of communication and no delay caused by layered communications in the later email he also told me quote we've tried to finalize this matter on numerous occasions. We were even under the impression that it was going to conclude a sooner time and we are completely taken aback by how all have. Let this drag on for so long and quote worth noting here that shortly after I got in contact with gaming, they released a public statement about the matter that was. Very much in line with what they told me privately as far as this K- All events exhibitions management company goes that's where the trail goes a little cold for me I tried calling them with a number on their website and for me it didn't work I tried tweeting out I've emailed them and I tried to use a contact form on their website that is broken apparently so far as of the filming of this video I haven't heard anything back from them. Hubbert. Ladies Tom. Blood I can mean a look at a High Horse Shukran your call cannot be completed as dialed. Please make sure you enter the correct number. It's probably also worth noting here that there were a bunch of other invitational tournaments that took place on the same weekend within this gamers con that we're all organized by true gaming there was rocket league invitational. There was a beep invitation on their Mash Bros invitation and like I said, they were all organized by true gaming who seem to be a company who do everything from eastport centric youtube videos to mainstream game reviews to event production. Now, let's just back up for a quick second. Because there are other entities involved in this issue beyond just the players true gaming and this K- All events and Exhibitions Management Company, and I'm talking about agencies for the Saudi Arabian government see according to Tech and master about six months after the event when it became clear that they weren't going to get their prize money anytime soon, a lot of deep participants in the gaming, Tech. Invitational. Got Together an organized to try to figure out what their next steps they went to a guy who goes by the tag burke came and he contacted to Saudi Arabian government agencies namely, the General Entertainment Authority in Saudi Arabia and more pointedly. The Saudi Arabian Federation for Electric Intellectual Sports see the true gaming invitational had to be sanctioned by these bodies in order to put on their event in the first place and as to who this Berkane guy is. He is a Saudi Arabian eastport seen community leader and individual player manager who has served as a sort of go between between the players, the T os, and the government agencies that oversee East sports in Saudi Arabia and he told me that he's been in contact with those government agencies and they are actively investigating this situation. As we speak I have conducted the federation on behalf of some of the players and they. Did investigate the issue and I believe they have officially contacted all the parties involved in this case on soon, they would return resolve at least from where I'm sitting it's not going to be easy to figure out who's actually on the hook for this money according to Tech Master Burt. CAIN and some other folks I spoke to nobody actually signed any kind of contract or documentation that stipulated how when or I guess technically even if they would get paid out this prize money according to Burke Cain East sports in Saudi Arabia is still very much in a phase where contracts are not the standard sports itself and Saudi is still new. and. It started based on community efforts where almost everything was based on trust. That moved along when he sports stuff to grow on many companies started to throw big huge ovens. Everyone trusts what's being advertised after all the low in Saudi will hold you accountable for what you advertise. Let's say trust is what? being practiced here in Saudi I do believe that should change and perhaps tap. Last year will rise the awareness in the community
Very different, symbolic hajj in Saudi Arabia amid virus
"News. The annual Muslim pilgrimage to Mecca in Saudi Arabia is underway with drastically reduced numbers because of the corona virus pandemic this year, only around 10,000 people, all of them Saudi residents will perform the five day ritual always screened and quarantined in advance. Our religious affairs editor Martin Bashir, reports. Last year, more than two million Muslims circled the Kaaba in Mecca, the most sacred site in Islam. But in June, the Saudi Arabian government announced that no foreigners would be allowed to perform the hajj. And that residents aged over 65 or with chronic illness should also not attend the restrictions of not only impacted worshippers. They've also hit the kingdom's income. The hardest Saudis second largest source of revenue after oil, contributing around $12 billion
20 Khashoggi murder suspects on trial in Turkey in absentia
"Hearing is taken place in Turkey in the trial of 20 Saudi Arabian nationals for the murder of the Saudi journalist Jamal Khashoggi. They're being tried in their absence. Mr Hotshot fianc? Hard to Judge Angus was the first to get evidence on his killing inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul two years ago. Here's our security correspondent Frank Gardner. A teacher. Jenga spoke briefly to journalist. She said that it was a debilitating experience. As she put it, It must have been absolutely harrowing for her. But she says she is determined to see justice. She wants to know what's happened to his body, and she wants to see those who she considers accountable for this brought to justice. The Saudis, however, are not going to extradite anybody. They've said they've already held their own trial, which finished in December. It was held behind closed doors and neither of the two chief suspects as Faras, the international intelligence community concerned we're actually convicted. The French
20 Khashoggi murder suspects on trial in Turkey in absentia
"A court in Turkey has begun the trial in absentia off 20 Saudi Arabian nationals accused of the murder of the Saudi journalists. Jamal Khashoggi. A vocal critic of Saudi Arabia is Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman was killed inside the Saudi consulate in Istanbul two years ago. The BBC Shoddy Alka chief, is there You're in Turkey. There's two ideas. The 1st 1 thinking that this is a simple IQ trial coming when there is no more evidence, and those whose child in this case is not in Turkey, and the body ofthe German did not found yet, but the other part looking for it as a political trials, where the relationship between Riyadh on Ankara is very bad, and also they think that maybe Turkey needs to send a message. To Saudi Arabia. Maybe this will push this case forward and push for Arial toe cooperate in the investigation.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on WBZ NewsRadio 1030
"On to Saudi Arabian oil fields ran is widely believed to be the masterminds behind that ambush well two men links to Rudy Giuliani and his efforts to investigate Joe Biden and his family's activity in Ukraine are locked up this morning they are arrested on federal campaign charges both live part S. and Igor Frohman accused of routing more than three hundred thousand dollars to the America first action pack a group supporting president trump's reelection campaign prosecutors claim the men set up a phony company hit their names and then falsely reported it as the source of the contribution the indictment also claims the pair met numerous times with a member of Congress to urge the removal of the U. S. ambassador to Ukraine they now face multiple charges including conspiracy this morning well for the first time since the impeachment inquiry began president trump hits the campaign trail in Minnesota but riles up critics even before the event kicks off despite a legal warning from prince is a state last year purple rain played in the background as the president's supporters waiting to get into his rally at the target center in Minneapolis late rockers raps were quick to tweet a new warning Adele Elton John and the rolling stones are among the artists who also banned the president from putting their music on his campaign play list last night Mr trump blasted beyond say JZ and little Bruce Springsteen or supporting Hillary Rodriguez CBS news my six oh eight look at these.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on KTAR 92.3FM
"It takes time when you get the same results which is social validation for taking a picture of your genitals or your cat or your avocado toast. it's less money it's less time bigger result if the result is likes subscribers attention. that's where we are it is a race to the bottom not a race to the top that's that that that's set up and out of it isn't it great actually it's not. actually it's not the pay off should be obvious. it's great for very few with the top. and for the rest of us you're giving away far too much in getting far too little in return. now it's been almost three weeks since there was the drone attack in Saudi Arabia on the oil institutions lots of becoming a pop and we were told it was a turning point different than oil tankers for instance different shooting down an American unmanned drone this was a strike inside show Saudi. a territory on their economic lifeline. the hoodies came out and said we did it the Americans and Saudis came out and said Iran to it the Saudis keep telling us there's going to be a response is the response the American reaction which was to send a very small amount of military troops into Saudi Arabia and some new military defense weapons was that the response. the tightening of economic sanctions was that the response. is it a boy cried wolf. let's find out from cream is a base a he is a journalist from Egypt a chat with them for the program and I asked him. is this or or or the Saudi Arabians actually going to respond in a serious manner like they have threatened and continue to say they are going to do something bad and and backgrounds can would never happen without the United States in bold and their wives and analysis done by today let's German TV channel at kind of like an interesting theory about it doesn't. not really what I personally believe in but I think you're at dance to know about it so this and Alice's was saying he doesn't really believe that that that was done by Iran has anything to do with it they don't really have much to gain from this attack he believes it's either Saudi Arabia order and Israel have planned this attack to happen on Saudi Arabian sword that's why it's happening from Yemen because it's very hard to control something such a conspiracy for coming out from Iran that Yemen is in a state of out of control so you can really provoke whoever agency have their tool at back S. I'll get it yet the reason for that Israel to at I have a conflict of physical conflict with Iran and stop this cold front war kind of state but what about those who he's who have who they're they're the one group that does say we did it they want to take responsibility for it so if the Saudis self inflicted why would the Hootie's then say it was us it could have been done by forty is that this theory is saying that this was something and carted supported in diabetes glory agents by Saudi Arabia those mysterious at that thing it's saying that the only one who can gain benefits from that to start yeah and Israel because these are the two countries Iran is not really gaining much out of bed the only thing it's happening to Iran is that they are now losing support by the international society because of this fact selected the vision that it doesn't serve it on much at all you mentioned the losing support by the international community there are reports both from mainstream European media and through the Middle East that the Europeans the E. U. block is now sitting signaling that they want to pull away from. Iran and inside with the United States because of what happened in Saudi Arabia is that what you're alluding to when you say there they may be are wrong may be losing and it's because of the Saudi attack you think not only that but there was a factor it's been pressurized water wide but that's a big factor in the. so all the factors and now old old the givens added heading towards read yet I'm not losing out of this attack and get on that if not us who did it so I switched. straight ahead to add a lot of media which is in Saudi Arabia in. news Janet. and it is straightforward supported by the regime it's that easy Laurie. and then actually to neutralize the power of that just yet but that's another story anyhow so this ten and. what activity coveting extensively the attack on Saudi Arabian will leases targets and use within target area and things like that happen you know the tool where orange tankers boats that would attack before okay maybe it would cut that it would not cover it and would say everything is fine just have like everything is. fighting games invaded only because they don't really want their people or the local community and the Arab population to be involved that much and product. but when they were covering extensively the attack from Iran and on the is done to get that he sent one is gonna put some question marks apparently the government is interested in. you know letting you know but it doing them and every campaign and on that the credit this does that that government the people in the in power once the Arab world to know about the Iranian attack where do you see Iran where do they stand today in this crisis. Iran is under so much pressure they have strong support from manta restaurant and its allies that are struggling China and all of the they still have some support from there but they are huge pressure if not now they are very close to a state of desperation. a separate issue this is a crisis that Donald Trump has with with Ukraine how do you interpret that that that phone call is it as as Donald trumps opponents say it's like a mob organized crime shake down or is it like Donald Trump says you're really no big deal for the United States. sit down a president of a country as big as the United States giving in. a no win twisting their arms conditioning the money for them to do something it's very common. so it's not unheard of that's why the United States please be a B. is financial aid so if you can believe that it may lead that is eight because they wanted to have some power and clout that it's usually the condition was something we spoke about that at times in your show it's not just great for where philanthropy the United States always has things they demand in return so that part where the president of the United States is demanding something from another country in order to get at the eight totally normal and fine now the other component using this. he. tool at benefit here. that interest is present in campaign this is wrong. that's great for Egypt with analysis not only on trump and his latest crisis with Ukraine but of course before that where is the Saudi response to the alleged Iranian drone attack when we come back our first global media spotlight how foreign media cover the story about the impeachment process which is begun here in the United States voice to America where the world comes to talk. we live in an uncertain world all your assets protected one lawsuit brought against you or your business.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Bloomberg Radio New York
"Saudi Arabian oil fields and says conversations are on going in any military action be bigger than that perpetrated on Saudi Arabia Iran's president Hassan Rouhani says Yemen was behind the attack but that Yemen has had no choice but to respond to aggression from the U. S. Europe and Saudi Arabia Britain's prime minister Boris Johnson says he sees a path forward toward a new brexit deal this after meeting with the E. U. leaders the E. U.'s says it is saying nothing new from the prime minister to. I won says China is meddling into its presidential and legislative elections this coming after the Solomon Islands cut off ties with Taipei Donald Trump says he probably will not travel to Pyongyang for the next round of nuclear talks with Kim Jong un but we willing to visit sometime in the future he added that Kim might be willing to go to the US and the house oversight committee is investigating whether transportation secretary Elaine show used her office to improperly benefit a shipping company owned and controlled by her family I was married to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell global news twenty four hours a day on Erin a tech talk on Twitter power by more than twenty seven hundred journalists and analysts in more than one hundred twenty countries in San Francisco Ahmed Baxter this is Bloomberg. thanks a lot for that that's of add backs of because there's times it's good for this go back to get to the top out Lloyd chief investment strategist and executive director at advisors asset management match the risks is certainly piling up on the day and you know we've got Greg's it that's as what I expect a slowdown precipitated possibly by this trade war a cyclical slowdown Hong Kong now what's happening in the Persian Gulf as well. US equities in their all time highs it's great isn't it why. yeah you know it might be she is going back to your basic econ class supply demand if you look at the U. S. in the sense that we remove so much stock supply of the last twelve years and stock buybacks whether it's lack of cap back lack of vision from the CEOs trying to really engage in long term business building to they're not rewarded for I could be as simple as that I do think though is when you have kind of of what we had two thousand two thousand seventy thousand nine we have a really flushing out of the system and is a classic bank run it was a very behavioral based issue is complex we want to make it was a classic bank run on a global basis that we never seen there is a reverberation of that there's the baggage gets that carries over and I think if you look at some of the allocations the study that we saw last week on a high net worth sit in twenty seven twenty eight percent cash using this build up in cash because they're waiting for that next shoe to drop their actually we see one blacks one we think there's a flock of blacks ones right around the corner so I think it might be a little bit a mixture of both those things but to your point the resilience in apathy that we just talked about one of the things that does that might start to slow this down in the long run I don't think right away is the fatigue factor that the building up whether it's the incessant your talking what's going on in politics or the fact that everything's become global macro there is a bit of fatigue factor out there that we have to be conscious of right well the city could take us either way I suppose I just want to mention we had this flash across the terminal that president trump says the US has reached an initial trade agreement with Japan so we're still looking for details and we we took this actually in our able like sorry just a few moments ago saying that the the do you took your symbol was reporting that this was moving towards that but I had also in my mind to ask you about what might have prompted president trump to change his mind about China because it seems like he has to agree. we we actually a month ago we're talking about this very same thing because it was right at the time where just within an hour me being on there was a escalation revelatory terrace they're going back and forth to tip for cats so to speak I think what you're seeing happen is by him going to Japan and other five of our top seven leading trade come countries it's kind of putting pressure on them and I think he's kind of trying to figure out maybe there's a little bit more carrot verses the stick with them they're kind of feeling each other out I still think that the agreement that we originally thought was going to get through is probably just gonna be temperatures is gonna be give or take it's kind of like the headline hokey pokey going forward I think also we would end up happening is a probably goes to the election nothing really gets elevated escalated but my guess is that at some point after that then they'll start to come to a resolution or if they really feel that there's a reelection that is a high possibility maybe but I think this is going to go to the election next year before we get a true trade deal. well then the damage from it could be that much greater couldn't didn't baffle if it pushes the U. S. for instance a recession that would be a massive own go. yeah anything that puts into recession absolutely I we just don't see that right now if you take a look at that component because again it's slowly been working its way in there it might be escalating faster than past trade wars if you look at the Japanese trade war back in the mid eighties yeah that was like a decade in the making from the auto manufacturers aspect but for most point this is actually a little bit faster but what you see with the other trade partners in certain things that what they're feeling on that maybe the domestic issues in China hopes kinda awfully to sing and so I don't think it's going to get out of hand but I do think if we look back a month from the go we're talking about it the the Chinese wishing I was off about five percent overnight futures it's up about seven point eight percent since this wasn't in price in there yeah something changed I think it's president trump change his mind but not everyone agrees just a final quick question an easy one what's in your head a great investment idea that nobody else has thought of. well the one thing we've been actually go in is again because of low interest rates out there and so forth that's keeping that kind of that need for income at at bay because people can't find it I think supplementing what you have into more higher dividend paying companies into more the value based company that have been really under performing for a long time you see some kind of things in the last even today with oil you seem to think the last week two weeks were starting to break out we would overweight values.
"saudi arabians" Discussed on Reasonable Doubt
"Where did that cookie jar come from and who made it, and then that person was seen at the Trump plaza? And then eventually just gets back to Trump. So I never know when they're trying to spin it back to Trump. They they are the boy who called Trump's so many times that I never know if there's actually some meat on this bone or not. But the theory is that they were I don't know carrying Trump's water and Trump hated the Washington Post and bazo owns the Washington Post, Washington Times, whatever what is it post time post. But you know, the Saudi Arabian connection is also fascinating. Are they doing here for Trump? They doing it for NBS because the S connection fascinates me. Because they I liked the data point of glossy pick parole. You know, the the prince who would be king, whatever it was, you know, immediate blows up for NBS. But the that fascinates me. I can't believe they would be doing it with I at the behest of Trump because it just seems the attic, and I don't how do you go through something like that? Okay. Yeah. We better that method. Good idea. I mean, I just don't buy that. So there has to be more going into it to me to my mind. The narrative that's being spun out there, by the way. I I don't know that that I this is the other thing in for those you don't know there's now is the that was for the last thirty six hours is all the speculation that the letters that are going back and forth with Faso's lawyer and his investigator with Marty singer and Gavin Becker is that the that there's a violation of the non prosecution agreement in therefore, it's extortion and that the special counsel taking a look at it. Well, here's the bigger question. I guess that people are asking, which is how were these pictures obtained or intercepted was this? I think those right. And so then there was it was the. Saudi secret service. I that to me was so fanciful to begin with. And sure enough, you know, it's being what's coming out. Now, those reporting style, but it was her the this is what's his name ex wife here. Her brother her, brother. What got? Yeah, initially. There was hey, if Trump is using the NSA or the CIA dinner, and then he's going to be impeached. It's always something with Trump. It's almost anything flies. There's a whole thread by one of our listeners who I adore about helicopters landing the Black Hawk landing in downtown LA. And I don't she direct messages may because I'll tell her it's really cool. I got it. It's not as the fairy as she thinks. And this is the same thing that he was hacking into get it. It was the NSA. No, I it's almost always he disgruntled employee or a relative. That's how you get these things. So you know, it made me the Pfister Kate it as you think it made me there's something that made me laugh, and then I have a funny story for you. But what made me laugh when he said disgruntled employees, one of the great Cohen brother movies was raising Arizona, and he got his kid ab- -ducted the ask the guy who ran the like unfinished furniture factory. He said. The F B I came to a guy, and he said, do you have any disgruntled employees? And he said hell, yeah, they're all disgruntled. I'm not running a fucking daisy farm. They're all disgruntled. It's a great line. I got a friend and he just lost. What does he sees it? He's Eddie's complaining to another one of the employee employees that he's complaining too is is a, you know, is is is not exactly EPA Fetig, the employer, of course, not very you know, what they classic. It's a classic division. Is you know, it's for whatever it is. You live out you live out that relationship in such a way that it's always going to be that you want to solve it you that's that with ownership because boy, then all of a sudden it changes the prison looking through. But well, let me ask you about. Let me I'll tell you a story..
"saudi arabians" Discussed on 77WABC Radio
"Sa- finally remove actually was installed back in December. I guess the best way did depicted is. It was like this giant nine foot wrapped candy. And it was in addition to other candies that were raft and place now near the site of the World Trade Center attack nine eleven and this one had the Saudi Arabian flag on him. Imagine it's nine feet tall. So people will like pass might why got Saudi flag up here. You know? Most of the attack is the hijackers were Saudis, Osama bin Laden was. Sort of the black sheep right of the Shama Binladin family, which would sa- largest construction firm in the Middle East. But they were Saudi and say you kidding was incestuous take it down. And finally they did because that day of that attack. You gotta remember and never forget is over seventeen years ago, but you know, soon more people will have died from the effects after the attack and during the attack itself, and most of those people aren't even the people who are first responders, Juliet and others who chose to live in the area. Go to work in the area can go to school, and they were offering great rental deals down there. That's because Christine conduit Lucy EPA chief failed governor of New Jersey. Our hands said, no problem breathing in the toxins. You don't need a respirator. What a Wf I would a discrepancy. What shonda? But now if you've been diagnosed with a malady as a result of your exposure to those toxins acts with the nine eleven victims compensation fund is to be useful. But it's running out of fun gel, crappy dope. You've got to contact knoll Kush Levski, if you or someone, you know are eligible east helped thousands of families are we covering over a billion dollars on their behalf. So if you or someone you know are eligible for the nine eleven victims compensation punch..