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TimeformUS Forecast - Episode 26 - March 27, 2020

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TimeformUS Forecast - Episode 26 - March 27, 2020

"Two Hi everyone. Welcome to the March twenty seventh addition of time formulas forecast. I'm David Aragona joint very shortly by my co host. Craig Milk House. Clean this week on the podcast. The focus is Gulfstream Park Saturday card. The main event there is a great one Florida Derby but the entire fourteen race card is just stacked with really interesting stakes races and the handicap. Most of them. And Craig how're you doing? And Are you ready to get right into the racing? Because I think there's a lot that discuss this week there sure is that it's quite a card. I mean this rivals of Belmont Stakes Day card and almost given a Breeders Cup guard maybe not in quality but from abetting perspective. So let's get right to it We're going to skip just a few of the stakes races. We weren't planning to discuss race for the Color Bay for the three year olds. I know I personally didn't have a big opinion in that race against the favorites. So we're going to begin with ray six. We'll just go through these. I think in chronological order leading up to the to the main event the Florida Derby a race. Six is the grade. Three House. Hope This race that they elongated this year to go to turns a mile underneath. I believe it was running a mile in the past and this I thought was one of the more interesting races to handicap on the car. Because there's no clear favourite in this race. You've got a few todd pletcher horses. They might take some money but I thought this was one where you could look for a bit of a price i. It is rates where the pace project predicts. There's GonNa be a fast pace. It's not surprised with the big field and also when you have bodey expressing field. I think it's probably pretty much a certainty that there's going to be pace The morning line favorite American Tattoo also adds a bit of speed. In as does rare form a horseshoe pressured bodey express last time out from a handicap in perspective for me. This one is pretty simple. It would be hard for me to go against Hall Harvey Wall Banger in here Assuming he doesn't just get bit crazy I've really liked his race last time he ran a big number. GotTa one eighteen. It shows a one. Twenty in my. Pp's with I assume it's getting some weight off He has by far the best sleep piece reading in the field. He draws a good good post and he gets a nine furlong steady properly vite so while I've never been a fan of his in the past. I really did like that. Effortless style in. I think he he's were. I'm going to start with Maya pets. Yes this is a rates were. I just found it really difficult to trust anybody. Because you've got a few horses with one big performance kind of like Harvey Wall. Banger has some horses who have formed. That would win this race but it was formed from last year and the recent performances aren't so encouraging I would put bodey express in that category. I thought Bodey expressed personally could be the favorite in this race because he really did run well in some of these races earlier in the winter and going back to last fall. I don't know what happened last time. In the Gulfstream Park Mile when he just got cooked in that early duel with rare form. Who as you said? He's back in this race and it feels like those do have to hook up at some point on the frontier. We'll see if that creates enough pace for a horse like Harvey Wall Banger. I've got no problem with the notion that Harvey Wall banger repeating. His last race is going to make him really tough in here. I just didn't have a lot of faith that we're going to see that again harvey while Banger. Because he's been so inconsistent in the past and also Corey Landry gave him just this perfect ride. Last time they left the rail open he just shot on through saving all that ground. I think it would be tough for Dylan Davis to orchestrate a trip. That was that perfect and this race. it just seems likely it's going to happen twice in a row but I don't disagree that he does have the ability to win this race. I want to look for some others. I wasn't really enamored with a lot of the short prices like American Tattoo. He's just never been a horse that I've been a big fan of I didn't think it was quite good enough to win this race on the outside. Realm is a horse that I I'm sure you liked in the past and I know he's not really a winning type of but he has run. Multiple speeds figures that put him right in the mix. I think getting out to the mylan eighth as opposed to the MILENA sixteenth. Last time gotta help realm a little bit. So He's a horse. I definitely WANNA use but my topic in this race is going to be the number. Eight Sarangani I kind of doubt we're GONNA get that fifteen to one morning line on him because he looks a lot more logical than that to me But Saran thirty I think if you parse his forum from nineteen. It's stronger than it might seem. At first glance I mean first of all. He's not really synthetic course. I don't care that much about his most recent race at woodbine looking at his three dirt races prior to that he ran his theme figure. That could beat this field and the corn husker four back after that. He encountered unfavorable pace. Set up in the West. Virginia Governor's Cup pretty much the same thing in the Lucas Classic. I know that was a pace. That is moderate on the time former. Us PP's but it was really dominated towards the front end and Sarangani was one of the only that really closed in that race. He's coming off a bit of a layoff here but I like that. He's picking up the Raunchy. Real things will get a bit of pace to close into nine. Furlong seems like the perfect distance for him. Yeah I have no problem with him. He's actually our second repeatedly. Pay source may only thing I'd say about Harvey Wall Banger. Is he was a five or six year old. I would be much less inclined to take that big jump last time. But he's still a fairly young four year old was just the March Foale so I almost expect them the run that the other thing I want to comment on was the morning lines I I don't see any way. American tattoo goes off the favorite. I I don't even consider a real contender in this field to be honest and Ethic it's a theme. We're going to talk about I. I'm not criticizing the morning winemaker. I I wouldn't even know where to start on some of these races. They all have big fields. They're all deepen contention but I just saw out of morning is that I thought were pretty shaky but given the conditions that were under. I think it's you know you could speak more As the guy who does the morning lines for Niver but I just found out of mobile questionable. Yeah I mean. I don't like to go out and lemon criticized morning. Lines too much given that. I take a lot of criticism incoming most of the time in New York when I get it wrong but look I probably wouldn't want the job at Gulfstream especially for days like this a lot of these raises are just insanely tough and there are so many of them packed onto one card. It just seems like a daunting job in this particular race. I completely agree with you. I I don't know I I saw this race being completely differently. I thought body express will be the favorite. I didn't like either. Pleasure Horse your to blame more American Tattoo. I didn't see either. One is really significant contenders year. So we'll see how they bet the race Again I- Pixar Anthony. I think will be half of that fifteen to one price on the morning line but I also think that would be a fair price if he's around eight to one. Let's move onto the Santa Bell Island. Which is the next race on that car? The seventh this one is going a mile on the turf for the three year old. Billy's and this is a race. Where unlike in the Male version of this race the Cutler Bay I thought the favorites in this race looked a little bit vulnerable. I mean you've got a horse like cheer Meister. Who's going to take some money? She's coming off two straight victories where she wanted gate to wire fashion. I think she's going to have a lot more trouble wiring this field because there's much more speed signed on. You've got a horse like walk in Marrakesh. You could take some money. She's lost a couple of close decisions. That are last to start with pretty good trips and horse. That's really intriguing in here that I think you have to have an opinion about is the number nine seducer who was so impressive wedding. Her maiden race in her debut would aquidneck last November but after a member that was a time at acqueduct. When the rail had the rails are just come down there said zero feet in any horse racing down on the inside seemed to have a significant advantage and she was writing that rail the entire way setting a moderate pace so. I do think she has ability. I just wonder if that performance is not quite as strong as it seems. Yeah this another race where we have the piece likely to be fast according to the pace project there. I don't really have any problems with that It looks that way to me as well. I against the morning. Line favorite. Cheer Meister in here. She doesn't figure to lead on the pace projector and if she does she's going to have to work awfully hard to get it so it a short price. I'm knitted interested in her. Seducer is the one I started with just because of that one. Oh wait time form. Usb figures ran last time that is a very big number for a two year. Old Filly. I I don't remember the Breeder's Cup juvenile fillies number off the top of my head but I'm sure it wasn't a one. Oh wait it was something below that and when you charted the time for them. Us PP's I think it is a race that has come back strong Obviously Harvey's little oil came out of that. Recent move the dirt but there's been some other good performances so. I think the number is legitimate but it is one of those where you say. I think she did have an advantage on the course so for her. It's just gonNA come down the odds. I think she's eight the one on the morning nine if she went off anywhere near the early are higher somehow. But I don't think that's going to happen. I take a shot with her but I suspect she's GonNa get off that number. I haven't looked at what the buyer is or other speed figures but I I would guess it's probably pretty high on those as well So the Horse. I actually wound up landing on this one. That's a bit of a longer price And that's number eleven hiring gory for Barklay Tag I. Even though her number didn't come back big last time. She only got a ninety eight. I turf dry. She actually overcame Was a pretty tepid peace in that race. We have some of the fractions coded blue and I just really liked what I saw. Virtually and she looks like the type affiliate who who is definitely going to improve her speed figure this time and possibly could do so enough to win the race. Yeah I have no problem with that highland glory. I liked her last race. She's got this big turf pedigree. She's actually a full sister to my favorite her forces from the past couple of years. Highland Scott I so I think the sky's the limit with her sending two races on the turf and frankly she didn't run that much slower than seducer in her first start so I think there is a reason to believe that she can take a step forward here. I'm fine with that opinion. I do think this is the kind of race where you can take a shot with a bit of a price and I'm doing that probably with that. Even crazy horse I was interested in the number. Twelve Air of light The negatives with Air of light are pretty glaring She showing up close to the pace and the pace projector. And as you said it's projected to be a pretty fast paced so maybe that just works against her. Maybe I'm making a bad putting forth a bad opinion here just because of that fact alone I don't think that Era of light is definitely a horse that needs the lead though and I think the fact that she's drawn outside. I don't think they're going to be quite aggressive. We'll see how they actually ride the race. But the reason that I'm interested in Era of light here is because she's getting on the turf and I know the her dirt form looks pretty uninspiring at first glance but she really is breads. Do Better on the turf. She's by the factor and the factor is really turning into a pretty nice turf sire. He wins with fourteen percent of his runners. Overall you've seen plenty of his progeny ascended graded stakes level on the turf. Her Damn Law Song. She was a horse that ran on all surfaces. She really was best on turf in synthetic She's produced mother full. Who DIDN'T TRY THE TURKEY? But who was a pretty fast sprinter? There is some turf in the second generation. And what I really like about. This horse is two things Her Maiden Victory back on September thirteenth at Churchill downs on the dirt and she showed she had some ability that day. Because that's come back as a really strong race a beautiful trauma who was second returned and won sixteen lengths at the fairgrounds with a gigantic speed. Figure a temperatures rising third that day. She subsequently graded stakes placed a number of horses that finished behind those have come back. Run faster speed figures in their subsequent starts now I know. Air Of light completely fell apart after that sometimes horses. That aren't really mentoring dirt. Just they run well first couple times then. They just fall apart until they get that surface. Which and it's interesting to me that norm. Cassie has been working this philly on the turf for like two months straight her drills down there palmettos seem pretty impressive plenty of fast times a number of them in company. I watched a few on XP TV. She's done them really easily. She's got this really Nice Turf stride honor and I don't know if the TRIPS GONNA work out but she's going to be a gigantic price in this race and I just feel like she's one who has a good chance down on Herod's You know me I'm never gonNA try to talk somebody off at twenty one shot and I actually liked your argument here. The one thing I did Wanna add is when I do like horse moving from dirt turf like you do in this spot. I generally look for horses. That haven't been running a well on dirt for one because they offer value in two. I just think there's much bigger chance are gonNA wake up and horseshoes actually already want Dirt moves over to me. Those kind of horses disappoint more often than not so interesting. Argument in this is going to be a fun raced bit next race on that Gulfstream Park Saturday card is the eighth race. It's the Sir Shackleton going seven furlongs for the older horses and Craig gotTa say for a sprint stakes race on the dirt. There's very little speed in this field. I know the pace projectors not quite predicting a situation favoring their leader though it is worth pointing out the number Eleven Frost. Grace is probably going to scratch because I believe he ran yesterday at Gulfstream so that takes even more speed out of this race and I mean there are plenty of contenders in this race but so many of them had that same closing running style. Yeah it is an interesting rates when you see a worse. York didn't give him a clear lead in sprint horseshoes primarily run on synthetics and turf where we don't give as much credit for when early pace ratings? I you know there isn't a whole lot at speed so I'm almost surprises. When doesn't have the IGLOO? Close enough to see why but it doesn't have the favors owner near the label or no speed. Even but that said I mean I think if you're handicapping this ratio. Almost half the start with the coma the winner of last year's blue grass stakes. I found that interesting that he is the top. I'm former. Us power pick. That's kind of unusual for a three-year-old returning in stakes reset has a run in almost a year. Because you know the it's still those pixel based on speed figures in his was done a long time ago but it also tells me it's just not a very strong field in here The COMAS A horse. Who proved he can run well for as she came right out of the box for George. Weaver won easily. I I'm out jumped right up in one the Nashua then. He took some time off before the fan out in the youth last year. We didn't win that day. I thought he ran a very good race before rebounding to win the grass. So for me. I think the race clearly goes through him. I think he's the most talented horse in here. I think it's a pipe dream that I think we would get anything near that ninety two morning that he's listed on just based on reputation in the fact that his last running line the Kentucky Derby which people tend to gravitate to win. I think he's the Horse to beaten. I I'm not sure who. I'd WanNa go against them with. Given what I see in the rest of the past performances yeah I mean the reality of a coma is that he was running almost fast enough to win a race like this as a two year old. I beat his first couple of starts really pointed out as one of the best if not the best of his generation has a two year old. I mean I know those are one term racist but This spread to and. I think they're just getting back to what the combs really always been. Cut Out to do. I think you and I both never thought he was a mile and a quarter horse so I think seven furlongs to a mile seems like the perfect distance for him. The one knock on mccomb. I've got nothing dad. What you said about him. He is the horse to beat in this race. The one knock if I have one is that George. Weavers RECORD OFF. Layoffs is ideal. I looked it up in formulator over the past five years over six months or more in dirt. Sprint STORAGE WEAVERS FIVE. For forty thirteen percent the our allies less than a dollar. So that's a negative but. I'm sure that he's got become ready to run a top effort here given that he's returning in a stakes race so I do think he's the horse to beat the other horse. That's a short price on the morning. Line is the number three last judgment and I will say I did like last judgments return race at Gulfstream back in February. He broke from the rail. That day was off a bit slowly. Got Shuffled back there after. I don't anticipate. I don't think the Johnny Velazquez anticipated that he was going to be that far back in the early going but he puts them under a hard drive on the turn he made this big looping move It was a really visually impressive performance. He's going to have to run faster to win race But again I've got a negative trainers that for him on Todd pletcher. This actually surprised me quite a bit Over the past five years second off a layoff of six months or more With horses that won their return from the layoff an hour. Racing dirt sprints top pleasures one for twenty three with a fifteen cents R. A. Y. So that says that these horses that off the bench for todd usually come back and tougher spots and don't performed expectations so I'm a little bit skeptical of last judgement. The one horse I would take a shot with. Maybe against these two is the number ten. He hate me This is a horse that has some back speed figures that do put him in the mix here. He's got to get the seven furlongs which is a bit of a concern because he's been more of a six furlong specialist recently but he's the kind of horse that finishes up his racist pretty well. I'm not gonNA fault him for losing the killybegs captain last time. Because I really do. Think that horses in graded stakes form right now. Even though he's been running more listed type stakes races and just feel like he hate me is going to get the jump on a lot of the deeper closers in this race. So if the coma doesn't show up for whatever reason I think she hit me as the best alternative when in the most likely to beat them says like last judgement. Anti hate me I. It was kind of hard to get excited for for me for anybody in here. So mostly I like. I said I doubt will get anything like that nine to two NBA coma so probably just going to be a watch race for me and see how he comes back because the older a Horse Division could certainly use some that moving onto race nine. Which is the sand springs again going a mile on the turf now for the Phillies in mayors and I think the big story in this race is the return of newspaper of record. What are we going to get from? This horse was so good as a two year old. Really one of the best two year old turf phillies that. I think we've ever seen in this country running to kind of speed figures. That would really any three-year-old. It'd be envious of She obviously did not take a step forward and her three year old season arguably she took a step backwards She showed some tendencies During her races that are pretty undesirable. Getting very headstrong trying to run off nearly going rating tactics just completely backfired last time. The D'Amato cts. She's coming back off the layoff. Here what do you think we're going to get from her? Yeah that's that's the real question isn't it? I mean I think the race. This has to go through her. It is one we have labeled as fast on the pace. Projector like auto races largely due to the big fields. And I think everybody when they handicapped this rates. Kinda has to make the decision of you get the two thousand eighteen version of twenty nineteen version of of newspaper of record for me. It just comes down the Chad Brown. It's hard to think that he doesn't think this phillies back in. Really good form The fact that she shows up in the race I mean she certainly has value. If they wanted the breeder I they could do it just off over to euro record so I don't think she could have caught much much easier field than necessary. There's not A. There's not really any graded stakes sources in this field so for me. It's I mean I hate to say at a note of Shown where we like to talk about bedding but it's probably one. I'm just going to watch and see how she does. I mean it's always possible. If some worse I thought should be the second or third choice. I it's up fifteen or twenty to one that I take a fire in here but Just given the strength of the field. She's one that I'm probably not going to go against given She's trained by todd. Chad Brown he returned. Sources off away off like this all the time and does very well with it so I might look silly if she is headstrong again. Runs off and get speed at four to five or whatever she goes off at but just not one meter eager to take a big stand against. Yeah I mean. I'll say that I'm a big fan of this philly. I was just so impressed by her two year old season. I'd love to see her. Get back to top form just as a fan of the game. You always WANNA see these top horses. You have so much natural ability actually show it in the afternoons. I am concerned mostly about the presence of the number ten Jakarta because this is a weird horse to be in this race She's basically a five furlong turf. Sprinter that you have to think that the plan is going to be to go to the lead and it's hard to say newspaper of record out running to the front assuming that Jakarta actually starts in this race and it just concerns me because newspaper of record completely freaked out last time and the Belmont oaks when she didn't make the League now. That was a much slower pace than I think if they could have done that. Raise over again. They'd probably would have just centered to the lead that day a MEC- relaxes better if they're going quicker upfront. Still though. She's going to be an awfully sharp price. And this is the kind of horse that even though I'm a fan of hers. I just got to take a shot against her in this race. Where wagering standpoint Where do you go? I think the best option is the number twos. Oh fell we've talked about this philly quite a bit for her races at the fairgrounds this winter. I was really impressed by her race. To back in the hop I know that it says that she got some paste goes into that day according to the time for pace figures That was a race that was dominated on the front end other than her late. Run by els town who are really took a big lead into the stretch and Zone was the only horse that made a big run from the back of the pack that day. So I don't want to put too much stock in the fact that the pace look a little bit fast and it last time out in that Alston Memorial That was that day when the fairgrounds turf course was really rail biased horses that road. The rail for much of their trips seemed to have a big advantage as did the winner of that race. She's warpath up before she angled out in the stretch and so fell was just out in the fortify path. The entire way she was closing widest. Of all in this dredge. She never had a fair shot that day. She's supposed to get a bit more past- close into this time and I just think this is affiliate has a bit more natural She she has more potential that I think her recent speed figures might indicate hoping she can take that slight steps. Forward here The other horses that I would give a just a look to are the number seven. Get mother arose. I know I liked your last time. And she's going to be a much shorter price today but I don't want to discount the now horse. She earned speed figure. Last time that puts her in the mix. She's going get paste close into again so I don't want to just totally write her off. Even though I made a score or last time and the number six loss ignore a probably her best days are behind her but I like her getting back to the one to the to the mile distance I think thought a mile and three sixteenths last time was just way too far for her again she probably not in the best form right now but I would consider all three of these potential alternatives newspaper of record. We'll see which one's the best price. But I think so fell does have the best chance of those I will say I look your your alternatives a lot more than than our top time for. Us power pig Valedictorian. I just WANNA mention that. It's not often that we have a horse. Pick that a pretzel on top that I just ignore him but I think she's a horse that's all form. She hasn't been the same Philly we saw at our mayor. I guess she has hasn't been the same narrow that we saw last year and her she's a top pick in our past. Performance is based on things. She did you know. Six seven months ago win the race. She came when she ran back in February in. The honey. Fox didn't look anything like that horse sites all last year so Like I said I prefer your your options to her. Definitely we got. The same take on Valedictorian. Looks like a tough situation for her as well we're going to stick with that same class fillies and Mares on the turf but going a longer distance in the next race that's the temp of the grade. Three orchid going a mile and three eighths and the two likely favorites are drawn towards the center of the field. That number five gentle ruler and the number six Mary Personally I'd expect me and Mary to be a significant favorite in this race. Just because people are going to see that she was so impressive. Last time in that law prevalant. She had everything go her way that day though because they had any kind of speed and they really couldn't press her for the front end essentially just got to sprint the last half mile the last half mile that day not really a true test of stamina this time. There could be a bit more speed in this race You've got blow bell. Who could show a bit of speed? But especially the number twelve Elizabeth Way. You've got to think Paco. Lopez is going to try to be a little aggressive given that she won in wire-to-wire fashion last time so I think Mary has talent and she's good enough to win this race. She's just face a sterner test. As time I actually like her a bidding here. I'm not sure the others really enough to keep up with her. If she's intent on getting the lead it just kinda depends on on how hard pocket Lopez wants a challenger. I in my opinion if he really wants to go with are GonNa Mile and three as he probably does Asian aggressive writer but I expect her to run a good race. I do think this race comes down to favorites. At General Rules are general. Were Mean Mary. General roar has just been in awesome form. She's one six seven. The distance obviously isn't going to be a problem The question marks for me with her. That she's coming off a five-month layoff. Eh. She doesn't have a whole lot of early speed and as somebody who watches almost every rates run at Gulfstream everyday Gulfstream is. It's just not your typical turf. Course I I do think it is a little more speed friendly than a lot of other courses. We were typically up in New York in on the East Coast. That not so much out west. But you know it's a Keeneland Churchill you know. It's just not as kind to lead speed as some of those are so a little bit against her and for that reason even mean Mary. She's obviously not gonNA offer a lot of value in here but in horizontal. She's definitely going to be on. My tickets would probably be my top pick in here. Yeah I I do. Think she's in some ways the most likely winner of this race and I am going to pick against her here but I do think she has pointed ability so I'm not going to be shocked if she pulls off the same feat wires the field again. I Echo all of your sentiments about gentle ruler. I've got those same questions by also really respect for two thousand nineteen form. She was just so good last year and she seemed to always make her own good trips did matter she was way off the pace or closer to it. She just always seem to be right there at the finisher for races so I think that both of them are gonNA run. Well the alternative that I settled on at a better price is the number. Seven capture CREIS. She gave me and Mary a real run for her money. Reback in that optional claiming race going a mile on an eighth mean. Mary look she had her put away at the Eighth Pole. The copter crash was really aimed. Run after at the end of that race she earned a one fourteen time formula speed figure which frankly is not that much lower than the best number marries. Ever run when you're in that last time after Christmas. I know that she was beaten along way by Elizabeth way in the very one most recently I'd advise people to go back and watch cap decrees trip because nothing worked out for her She was squeezed at the start so she was way too far back in the early. Go Egg of lobbying. Pratt tried to launch this four wide. Run around the barter and can't really do that. Gulfstream turf races as you said speed is so dangerous and that everyone was just dominated towards the front end. Copter craze does have much more tactical speed than she showed last time. If she breaks cleanly here and I do that. She handled the my on three. Its distance said Saratoga last summer That's proven to be a pretty strong race that she in because romantic pursued a subsequently grade three stakes placed dining passers turned out to be a good horse too so I think the copter crash will handle the stretch out and distance and if she runs Back to that performance against me. Mary three back yes. She's actually the horse. I had third on my list if we were given one two three selections I. The only thing I had is if there's one horse at I'm against in here it's Elizabeth Way who we talked about earlier. Not that I think she's a bad or is obviously. She won a great three last time but I think she had things just the room way even more so than mean Mary did. She said a slow pace that they in the very one and I just think she's kind of in a bad spot either goes after mean. Mary and proper way dooms both of them to defeat or two. Let's me Merigo and is not gonNA be win for from a different kind of style. So she's an interesting horse to look at because she came from way back at the shorter distance of a mile on the sixteenth. The win but this mile and three eighths distance. I just think she's in a really bad spot is were. Su is most likely going to have the pressure mean Mary. That race began the pick five at Gulfstream. Late pig. Five pick four kicks off with race. Eleven the Gulfstream Park. Oaks agreed to event going a mile and with sixteen for the three year. Old fillies. Technically Kentucky Oaks. Prep though I think many more of those in the coming months the two major players in this race are the number five spices nice and the number nine total is shape unsurprisingly there the two shortest prices on the morning line they were the top two finishers in the Devonian Dale last month. Do you think it really just comes down to these two or did you see this as a more competitive race. I think if you ask me a WHO's the two most likely winners. It's clearly those two but I actually do want to give lake. Avenue is shot in here. She wheel Wheels right back in three weeks off that disappointing trend. Gazelle where at four to five. She just wound up in a pretty nasty speed. Though we have all the fractions coded read I still don't know if she's a horse I I'm willing to bet it just depends on what kind of odd she's GonNa be. I have no knox whatsoever on the top. Two tonal sheet boo Hoo. I was a bit against last time. But she kinda won me over as she showed a whole new level with that one ten time for. Us speed figure when when she took that worries over spices. Nice in those two. I would probably side with tonal is shaped by. I think she's a little more athletic than spices eyesight. She showed that watching the replay. I think she basically won that race by running the term better and in this race. She's actually going to get to turns the run I think she's just a smaller more athletic course so of those two. I give her the edge. I think she's the most likely winner. It's not like spices. Nice is getting a whole lot of extra distance. It is an extra sixteenth of a mile but given the configuration that that Gulfstream course it might actually work against her more than it will for her If this race was a mile on an eighth I probably have a different opinion but if I had to give a top pick it would be tonal as shape in. I do think. Lake Avenue has a punchers chance as probably own speed near after getting caught in that speed. The last on. We're very much on the same page. Here I feel like Spicer. Nice could potentially even be favored again because she was such a heavy favorite last time. But I really do prefer total as shape. She's just one of the over at this point As you said. We've been skeptical of her in the past but she's just one of these horses that shows up every time she doesn't have some set in stone running styles if she really makes good shrimps. I don't think she's going to have any problem with the two terms so I really do. Think Tunnel is shape the horse to be though Mike. Top pick is the same morse that you highlighted as the interesting horse in this race. That's Lake Avenue I know that the time. Formulas pace projectors predicting fast pace here in these mile and a sixteenth races at Gulfstream. I don't care so much about that. I'm more interested in the back at lake. Avenue is shown on a clear lead because so often especially horses that are drawn down towards the inside. If you've got speed from inside post going the mildness sixteenth at Gulfstream it does give you an edge because the others have to work harder to cross over at basically you get to dictate terms at that point So I think Joe Rosario is going to have a few more options than some others on Lake Avenue assuming that she breaks. Well it should be noted like avenue did not break well last time when she had to rush up after a slow. Start in the butcher but I agree with everything you said about her butcher Just too fast of a pace. I also wonder bill. Maud didn't really have her crank that day because her work tab was pretty light coming into that race. I do think it's interesting to Philmont. Is running back on such short rest now to me? That's a sign of confidence and I'm just going to try to get Gavin you to wire the field because she really did show ability as a two year old and will say that pace projector flag indicating. It's a fast pace. I particularly like you said I don't pay a whole lot of attention to it. In these mile and a sixteenth freezes at Gulfstream because speed is such a weapon and I also tend to downplay it a little bit when horses shown with such a clear leaders. Lake Avenue has If she breaks at all in here she should be able to make the lead so she is definitely. GonNa be dangerous in my opinion. I was a little wary at first when I saw that she was shipping back from New York but as it was pointed out to me on twitter. I'm sorry I forget who was. She's actually been stabled at it. F Palmettos all winter. So it's not like she's in New York and now ship and down to the east so that kind of my worries air with that with that Angle next race at Gulfstream has raised twelve a pan-american. This is one that I know aren't gonNA spend spend a whole lot of time on because you've got the heavy favorite in this race. That being the number nine Zulu Alpha just quickly for my money. I thought it was a two-horse race. I wasn't going to concede it Zulu Alpha. I saw channel. Cat was very interesting because he got a poor trip in the world. Cup Turf last time Freddy multi-race sequences I'd be using those two. Yeah we're in the same boat there. I actually covered this resource out of the gate if People WanNa hear my More deep thoughts on it but I went with chat channel catches because of the peace scenario. But I'm certainly not dismissing Zulu Alpha. I think he he is the other one to be. I wouldn't go more than two deep here. Both bend a bit more time talking about the next race also on the turf going a mile. This is the APPLETON grade three event. There's a lot going on in this race and I think many contenders to discuss. I guess we'll start with the morning line favorite. That's the number ten samba. He was the winner of the Canadian turf last time and I thought somebody ran pretty well that day. That was a spot where do just ran off on the front end in. Samba was putting that on. Nfl position of having to chase a runoff leader made the first move. After 'em still held off the closers. It was a good effort. Is He really good enough to be field? Because I think is a tougher spot. I'm not quite sure. But he's also not the course. I want to leave out now. This a very debray. Sav when you see a horse lake some by a is morning line favorite. I mean he's he's not the strongest Horse in the world for three. He's probably just a bad grade. Three Horse What I found interesting here. It's a full field of twelve. We have four also eligible. But they're still no fast paced notation on the time form. Us Pace projector. I take the race does have to start with L. Tormenta. I think he is probably the worst of He won the Woodbine Mile last year before trying to Breeders Cup Mile unsuccessfully of course but he does come off a off since then. He draws a wide post. So I'm GONNA take a chance against him in. This is one of those races where I gonna go for. What's probably a long shot? But that's number doctor. Edgar at twenty two wall I. He's a horse. Who I think could be on alone. Lead the peace project. Their shows the same thing. He's got Pez Ryden who we talked about. I have no doubt he's going to be aggressive and try to get the lead and just for my a running line standpoint if you look at his last two races he really has thirty up form where he was racist which is crazy fast pieces. He wasn't able to be near the front but I just think he's worth suits run all his best races when he's right up owner near that early and I think that's a spot he's GonNa find himself with in here in in any return to those best reaches is making a really strong contender particularly given the pace. Y'All got bad news for you. I don't think you're crazy. Long-sought is so crazy. 'cause I picked him to. I actually wrote the closer look for this race in the recent form and I did it before seeing the morning line and I kind of thought that Dr oetker would be about six or eight to one shot here because he does look pretty logical to me For all the reasons you set. There's not a whole lot of pace amiss race. And he is a horse that seems to do as best running when he can clear off to the front end and it seems like Michael Lopez. It's GonNa get do that here. And his last two races I know. It seems like he's gone off form. There are not as bad as they see. Because that already. Schiller to backtrack would. I think we talked about that race on the time from. Us or guest back a number of months ago. That was a raise. The fee heard so many speeds Voodoo song was in there. I think you do was in there. I mean they just went crazy on the front end that day so he never had a chance in that spot after they drew the race and then last time out. I know the pace doesn't look that fast based on the fractions but the pieces color-coded time for me recipe is it did fall apart late off. The winner actually came back and ran surprisingly well in that really. Tough Muniz memorial at fairgrounds last week so. I don't think that raises week as some people might think it is and Dr Edgar as you said. Last year he was in really good form. He's the defending Appleton champion. If he runs the Kreiner racy ran this race. Last year I think it's GonNa be really tough to run down so he's my topic in this race. Don't the beginning a huge prize. But he could still pay about twenty dollars the morning. Yeah Gar serve at that. I was just GonNa say I agree with the. He's not going to be twenty two one but I still think he's GonNa offer some value. Sorry no no no L. Tormenta mentioned. I kind of had a similar feeling. He is the class horse in this race. I just think he's got a number of things working against him from the post position to the lay off to the fact that he's really done his best work around one turn in the past. Now he's gotta get to from the outside post. I just think there are some obstacles there I got no problem with a horse. Like march to the art show just consistently runs fast. Speed figures. He's a Classy Horse. Has Been Competitive in grade one races in the past. We'll see if he gets enough paste close India because he has a one run closer but I think march to the archers the kind of horse that you do definitely WanNa use longer tickets somewhere. Yeah he's the other horse. I'm afraid we're almost to like in this race but hopefully works out to be a good thing. Yeah and just before we move on the only other horse that I would consider using strongly the number seven social paranoia. He'll be a bigger price than is uncoupled. Stablemates Zombie Gay. Social Annoy is just a horse. Who is going from three to four? So he's got a right to just improve natural maturity and he's also a horse that I think might appreciate back to a mile because they tried going longer distances. Like ten furlongs last year. I think a little bit shorter could be better for him. Let's get the big one now yet. I would start an air. 'cause I'm actually GonNa do something different. Give you a chance to go first for a change. I cannot get the chance to steal your opinions or whatever so. Let's hear what you have to say on this one in. I'll go all right. So I'm I'm don't have anything to cleverness race. I don't have a dog against his the law other than the fact that he's probably going to be in about the even money range because he's justifiably the leader of this division right now at least on the east coast. He's shown the most of these horses. I don't think he's GonNa have a big problem stretching out to a mile on an eighth. I've been a fan of this horse. I think he's GonNa run well but I think I have to take a shot against him with the number nine independence hall as you know. This is a horse that I've been a big fan of all along ever since his Nashua. I think it gets back to that kind of performance. He's going to be tougher even to the law to beat The real question with independence hall is has. He been the same horses as a three year. Old Well Excuse Jerome because he acted up so badly in the paddock. That day and that wasn't a race that he was probably fully cranked for and then last time in the Sam F Davis. I know we have a bit of a difference opinion. Opinion about this The pace it's not color coded as being exceptionally fast and the time formats. Pp's but from a race flow standpoint. I bought the speeds were up against it that day. The two that were dueling for the lead finished absolutely nowhere and independence hall was put in that position. Where you had to chase those horses down. Move make that I move after the leader is probably get the front earlier than Jose. Ortiz really wanted to and was rundown late. I solve a lot day. He's going to have to run faster than than that. One eleven time for speed figure to step up and beat horses his law and at Indian. I just feel like there's more to this horse than what we've seen so far this year more than anything. I'm hoping he gets back to that national performance because I just want to see him do it. Yeah I think he's going to have to We definitely do have a difference of opinion. I'm against him. I'll say it's a full field at twelve so as usual. Not always as we talked about the pace. Projector thinks the pace is going to be fast but again it's a situation where we show a horse on the clearly nets Tae Indian. He draws the far outside post. So I'm not sure if it's going to be easy as the pace project there makes it sound when you have this kind of person. It's not all that often especially on dirt where horses are just handed the early lead but I do think he's an awful talented horse and I think the rates comes down the him and Tis at the obvious favourite in here. A couple of dead people may be tempted to take a shot against with wide. Respect your argument on Independence Hall. I take the other side of it ever since is Nashua. He just hasn't looked like the same voice to me Maybe at a been a little more impressive so they come back and run better in the Tampa Bay Derby. He ran okay but he basically ran. The aimed speak figuring did win the Davis. I ran one twelve that day. I stood surprisingly enough. No other horses from that field of run back Aaj Weeds in this race. From that. Racer there's a whole lot more to go on but I'm going to be against him. The other horses gouverneur Morris He's probably going to draw some attention at the windows. A little more optimistic on this I M independence. All the oversee beat untitled came back to run a good second in the Gotham. But I'm not sure he can close the gap to the bid to the top two. It's a pretty big gap so among those two. I have no problems with his law other than the price as you do. I have no Knox onum. It still clear my head watching the easily aetate. Indiana last time I just have a feeling that at a mile in eighth If there's any kind of the odds discrepancy is the morning choose attacking Indians like three and a half times? The price Wall speed is always dangerous at this distance at Gulfstream. I do think he can make the lead so for me. It comes down to those two and just on a pre spaces. I'M GONNA go with at Indian. Yeah I mean I feel like I'm not against any of these horses. I just WanNa see them all do well. These top three Indian independence hall. Because I do think they've all shown exceptional ability at different points. The one thing I'll say about at Indian is that I do think people might overrate him. A Little Bit off Fountain of Youth Performance because the big favor that race was Dennis's moment and Dennis moment just for whatever reason didn't show up finish last and once you took Dennis moment out of that race. The Fountain of youth was just significantly weaker than miserable quality. Standpoint I mean look at it with Second. Candy tycoon He. He's just not really a contender in this race. From my standpoint so I do respect to Indian and I thought well back on the Holy Bull I just wonder like you. If he's going to be able to clear from the outside once again handle the bit of the extra distance again. I think he's GONNA run well. He was just the one that I preferred slightly less than the other two Like you though I wasn't that interested. Anybody else Gouverneur Morris to me. He does have upside. I think he's going to have to run faster to compete against these though. And he's not really proven against this caliber of competition. So for me. I thought he was going to be. Maybe a little over Bevan this race. I'm just hoping to bend. It's bounces back. And he's in the four to five to one range. I'd want that kind of price on him. I wouldn't want short of that. Because that would be an underlay in for me. I'm GonNa take the side that he kind of ran the field off their feet as seen on. Tv WHO's in this field was fairway goes up to him and just couldn't keep Bobbin Bed I know that Horsa had some distance questions about him and you know. I'm not sure what they're going to try to do with him in here but it won't surprise me. If any of the three talked about Winnie and even Gouverneur Morris. Anybody else would be a shock to me and I'll descend by saying I'm really glad we have recent for at least another big weekend. Hopefully there's a few more to come. We still have oaklawn. We still have. Cnn Nita running these days so hopefully we'll have some more shows. And I'm going to enjoy Saturday as much as I possibly can. I'll tell you that. Yeah I wholeheartedly echo that sentiment I gotta say it was a Nice distraction. These past couple of days to be handicapping this Gulfstream card because there was so much divinity and it really occupied your all your brain power which I think we need at this point in time. So hopefully racing's able to continue somewhere for of the next few weeks but for the foreseeable future will definitely back on. Tuesday and the time farmers pace cast to discuss all of these races in great detail. Because I imagine there'll be a lot to talk about. I remember that as always you can listen to these podcasts time from. Us forecast and the time from the rest pace cast on dear F. dot com spotify tunes Youtube and soundcloud. Wherever your podcast just make sure to subscribe to the daily Racing Form Channel. Thanks for listening to this week and we'll be back again on Tuesday.

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The Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - February 21, 2019

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The Matt Bernier Show - Preview Edition - February 21, 2019

"Were. Is going on this map Bernier show on TV live dot the dot com. Livestream dot com. Daily racing forms Twitter handle at the inside post. So as daily racing Facebook page. My name is Matt birney. You can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is d preview addition taking a look at the house hope from Gulfstream Park on Saturday afternoon. Great betting race, go few different ways. And they're also before we dive into that though, one take a look back because there was no recap. Additionally this week given the holiday situation wanna take a quick look at that race down at the fairgrounds the risen star as well. As the Elcano rail derby listening to some podcast like most of you YouTube sound cloud. I tunes video dot the dot com. So we'll Spotify. If you're over on YouTube, click subscribe and make sure the bell icons lit up. So you get the DR TV has offer. If you're over on apple podcast. I tunes however, podcast writer review leave a rating, it's always greatly appreciated over on YouTube thumbs up or thumbs down. Whatever your prerogative. Let's I've into those two racist. First things first throat, those PP's. For war of will. He is now unbeaten on the main track. Another emphatic score down there at the fairgrounds and the risen star visually. I like everything about this horse, the tactical ability, the agility that he has to get himself and workout trips. And that was kind of my point when I tweeted about him afterward after the race. We've talked about it so many times over the past handful years that good horses can create good trips. They can work out good trips for themselves. And is the is one of the reasons. Let's let's just talking about it more for jeez. Taking out the microphone. Let's talk about more from a bigger picture standpoint is part of the reason that people have a little bit of trepidation when it comes to a horse like war of will. It's part of the reason because he's running at the fairgrounds. I mean, let's let's just be honest. I know the fairgrounds recently as far as derby prospects is concerned hasn't been spectacular. But you have had some good horses. Ultimately, come through that three year old sort of three rinks down in Louisiana. Whether it was gunrunner, whether it was Gervin go few years back. I know you never ended up being a superstar international star was a nice horse. So even at least had some good horses come through the fairgrounds. Maybe they haven't gone on to win the derby. But they've done some good things when it's all said and done I love everything about this horse war of will from buyer stamp on. Yes, he regressed by two points. He's back to a ninety two with this race. But at the end of the day, it's still one of the faster three year old races that we have so far. I like the idea that he doesn't have to have the lead that he can go, and I know he's in the grand scheme cushy trip. No question about it. But he powered home that race completely collapsed. Anybody remotely close to the front end finished up the track? I thought it was an all around good effort. And again, this is this is one of the few year right now that I'm impressed by that. I look at him and say, you know, what I could definitely see him winning the Kentucky Derby some of these other horses. I'm not so convinced talked about last week on the preview show, the ideas, you know, the recency biases is real. And I'm sure some people will listen to this and think that I'm falling into the recency buys. But like I said last week I've said for a few weeks. Now, I liked everything about this horse after he broke his maiden on the main track. He looked like a legitimate kind of three-year-old potential three year old. And here we are. We'll find out time will tell I would imagine the Louisiana derby is up next at that point. Again, we're at that point now for a horse like him. You would like him to win Louisiana derby question about it. But you absolutely can't have a dud, and we are at that point now, especially keep in mind, Louisiana, derby can be one of the first one. Zero point prep races. And it was an exercise that it last year. And I'm sure all revisit coming up here in the weeks to come. I believe since the point system has been implemented. One of the one hundred point prep winters has won the Kentucky Derby. So it is almost it's almost a bit of a defacto prerequisite that if you don't win one of those final perhaps, you probably not really going to have big chance to win the derby. I know it's only been around for a few years, but so far batting two thousand. I'm still of the opinion that you don't need to win. It just yet. You gotta run damn well more of will. He continues on a very very nice path for Marquette in company as far as the race out west the Elcano rail derby at a mile and an eighth that's an important piece. I believe I know synthetic surface. And I know the field behind him was a little bit on the suspect side, but another twist to fate. I say what he looks like a series runner to me. Let's take a look at stran- right now kingly. Another twist of fate swings. For home opens up. For lakes of five link laid for another twist of fate a seven link played is he comes to the sixteenth pole. And look at this. He is the real deal. Another twist of fate. They didn't know if he had the class, but he certainly did another twist of fate in a rob here. Now, there is obvious questions here. Can he do that on what happens when he faces good horses? So many different things you saw him. Swap leads there that part I'm not super concerned about I just like to know that the horse has talent. No question about it. Now, maybe he ends up being aggressive horse. Maybe he's just synthetic creek. Maybe he can't run on the main track. The one thing I would throw out the folks that have brought up well he debuted on dirt down, southern California. And he was nowhere. It's first time starter, you know, not all we're going to come out of the box like a million dollars. We'd love them all to. But not all of them are perhaps this was a horse that just needed a race before we saw his best. But don't tell you what. Based on what he has done in each. Of these three most recent runs. He Luke's brilliant out there. I love the way that he powers home. And again, perhaps that is a product of the surface that he's running over. But I'm inclined to say, you know, what the interesting these going to be to find out. Do they go to a race? Like, the Jeff ruby stakes which is still on synthetic. And then you really won't know what you're dealing with. If he doesn't run again, or do you go to the Senator do you go to one of these other races leading into the Kentucky Derby just to find out if he can't handle the main track, and you know, what it's almost a darned if you do darned if you don't situation because if you go to one of those preps, and it doesn't work out the winner of the derby got an automatic entry into the Preakness. So they have that to fall back on should they choose to go that route. But maybe an earlier experiment as opposed to later is beneficial for a horse like this where if you do go, and let's just say, you go to the Sandinista, Debbie, and it doesn't work out you now still can run try. Irv. Anyway, I know he's yet to do it. But you can try to run in a race like the American turf for the three year olds in the derby undercard and start plotting your way to the Belmont derby and that triple crown or the triple whatever they call it for the Nyra races. Now as opposed to if you wait for your first run to be in the Kentucky Derby, and again, I get it. The derby is the end all be all for people that own three year olds. But to me, I would like to find out before then I don't want to go just to go. I don't want to have a horse that I don't think in stand up on the main track. I want to go and think that you know, what maybe we can't win. Or maybe we can't who knows sewer early to tell one way or the other. But I don't wanna go in there questioning do even belong here. I wanna go in thinking, you know, what if everything goes our way, maybe we can get very lucky and win at the very least maybe we can hit the board. Maybe you can give us a thrill gives a top five finish top seven or something. Like that. If you do earlier than later, at least, you can sort of plan accordingly. If it doesn't work out for we'll find out. But I think he's very very talented town. There's no question about it question now is is he going to be as capable on a different surface. And give you mind, I say different surfaces. Not just the main track its grass some more says are significantly better on synthetic than they are on turf. It's not an apples to apples comparison. So we'll find out we get, but I'm very encouraged by what we've seen from this horse in his three starts up Golden Gate. Another twist to fate might be a name. You wanna keep an eye on? As we go forward here. Let's I've into some handicap and we're gonna go over the eleventh race at Gulfstream on Saturday. The grade three house hope I think it's a great betting race. You can go fifteen different ways in a nine Horsfield. Let's throw to that. And then we'll come back button things up. Get you out of here for the latest edition out of the gate. Great three house hope the main event down Gulfstream on Saturday. It's let's let's be kind. It's a fun race. It's a good betting race. I don't know how much quality there is in here. And I keep in mind the grade. Stake sources. So when I say something like that, it's all relative, obviously, they're better than fifty thousand dollars claimer 's, but I just don't know that you have any horses. If you're looking forward to one turn races that are of major major sort of consequence. I don't know that you looking at horses that'll be running in a race like the metropolitan handicap here in few months, you can go if you different ways in here. We'll take him right in order first things first over here, as I always do I take a look and see what do I think it's gonna take from at least a buyer standpoint in at least a raw time form standpoint on ninety three and a one thirteen if you haven't been up into that range there needs to be reason for me to believe that you can get into that range before I go and wanna make you pick or think about considering you in any kind of a wager. We'll start off with the number one horse tail of silence Taylor silence horse that I had chased for the longest time early on here actually picked him in the Tampa Bay derby and twenty seventeen he came back and took him a little while. But he actually ran quite well in this Dwyer here finishing by practical joke it forty three to one. We know what practical joke was capable of. Of his best going one turn. Then last year. His sort of is easing didn't really get going. He alternately, you know, started down here. Gulfstream ran twice didn't run poorly in either of them took a few months off and came back here in the West, Chester. Belmont Parker and take a look at this. Here is tale of silence. In those familiar silks of Charles fifty up in front here. You've got conquest big e you've got Tommy macho and here you have cloud computing Preakness winner from few years back in see this half mile split sub forty six for horses of questionable. Let's caliber, and let's just call it for what it is easier. Some of the more injury prone horses, obviously, cloud computing was retired. Tommy macho is not run since this race relative run. This was a pretty sweet trip in the grand scheme of things for tale of silence. Also, keep an eye on Vulcan's forge coming from way out of a here. They're actually going to finish first and second in this spot. You're gonna ultimately see tail silence down toward the inside after splitting horses, and he gets the job done. Dylan Davis for a moment. It looked like he was gonna angle out instead he chooses to go to the rail and smart move, Tommy machos hanging on his left lead. As he always does an alternate. Lee. Tale of silence is just going to get up in time. The dangerous thing here about this race. And we always talk about it. Whenever you see a blanket finish. There's reason to question. How good the Finnish actually was now. Good. The field actually was well, go back here and take a look at the PPI. Sure, you have the highest out by or the ninety eight and highest last hour time form rating with a one eighteen Vulcan's. Forge came back is next eighty two on grass. Tommy macho has not started since the fourth and fifth place finishers, including cloud computing. They came back to buyers of thirty and seventy one he likes to say the Westchester from twenty eighteen has not come back all that strong tale of silence. If you're looking for a fresh face, a horse that didn't come out of the Hooper, I suppose he makes plenty of sense in here to be honest. I just don't know that I'd take short price on him in a race. Like this move down to the number two horses fellowship now fellowship. Excuse me comes out of. Fred Hooper long with two other runners breaking lucky as well. As copper town. Now fellowship is another horse that I for the longest time feeling that distance sort of one turn seven eighths of a mile races. Really his bread and butter. You see right here. I had questioned the quality of the racist was back basically after the race was over. And I was looking at it for the recap addition. And now even more so I do question the quality overall. There's a couple of things that you need to take out of this race. Now when we're going to pick up the replay at this point copper town is nowhere to be found. We'll talk about him more. So when we get to his point here in the PP's, but you're going to see right here. The number four horses breaking lucky on the outside here in these purple and yellow silk that's going to be fellowship at seventy two one fellowship for a hot minute looks like he's going to absolutely steamroll this field. Keep an eye on breaking lucky right here, though. He's not moving. Well, ultimately, he is angled out into the clear, and he kind of Rebrith embiid's again comes at these top horses now fellowship. I would've liked to have seen him finish the deal in this. He's moving pretty well. And I know this is as tech sent who was in great form for Navarro, and he continues to just ride law big rent and big races. But I still thought would that has seen fellowship had thought he should have gone by. Meanwhile, here's breaking lucky rallying from the far outside a horse. It looked like he was in deep water rounding the far turn. And you're ultimately gonna see copper town just kinda plugging along there at the end. Now, why do I look at this and say I questioned the quality of the field. It has more to do not so much. The fact that fellowship was seventy two one in this race. And I know the fourth place finisher here as I've noted his came back and he earned ninety four and his next start that was a horse that ran up. Laurel those unbridled won the the bigger concern for me is the fourth the number four horse or the three-horse excuse me, the four horse in that race breaking lucky breaking lucky the reason that I'm unsure what to do with this. This is just not a common sort of running line that you see when you're length off in second. Then next thing, you know, you're six two and a quarter off of it. You're not moving really. Well you began the race. You. Rather washy on your neck and into your trunk area. Started spinning your wheels on the far turn only to get out into the clear and come back and get the job almost get the job done. Perhaps. It's this piece right here. What track over three over it? Maybe he really just genuinely despises a wet track. Doesn't like the slop getting kicked back in his face. If that's the case, then breaking lucky is a major player in a race like this because he also bring speed to the table. That's something that there's not a lot of it here in this race on Saturday afternoon. I just to me signifies that was not a strong group considering this horse was basically in deep water on the far turn and still Olmos came and got the job done. It just kind of my overall feel for the race. I don't particularly love it. We'll talk about copper town, though, when we get to him because he is sort of the he would be the horse coming out of that race that I'd be willing to give the benefit of the doubt to move onto them before horse in here. This is wild shot for rusty Arnold. This is a horse that he is career was made on this race right here in the Pat Day mile. He goes out there and wins by four lengths just absolutely dust the field over a wet sloppy track. Excuse me sealed track. The concern is now you take a look at outside of that race. He doesn't have a race fast enough really to win here. If it comes up on Saturday, perhaps get a big chance I didn't like either of these two racist comeback effort is no match for copper bullet. And I know he ran into a good horse and cold front or decent horse. Anyway, storm advisory heart would, but I just wanted to see more out of again, he is the kind, of course, that if you don't love what you've seen from these horses that have more recency perhaps wild shots and alternative. He's not for me the number five horses. Quip the heat to me. Is the ultimate fresh face in the spotlight this where he had a little bit of buzz behind him. He ran well in a couple races. He one Tampa Bay derby last year, he had enough points to run in the Kentucky Derby connections, chose to wait. They wanted to give him plenty of time. Following the Arkansas derby, they chose to run them in the Preakness Preakness unmitigated disaster. He's put away for quite some time. We're gonna go back to his Arkansas derby. Now, the problem I have the Arkansas derby as a whole when the race was run. I questioned how good the field actually was and going back and looking at it again here you have it MAG moons out here on the front end. And here's quip just drawn just to his outside the rounding the far turn quick is going to have every opportunity to get this job done if Sola meaning coming on the outside you have tenfold here. You're hearing names right now that they have not come back to flatter the forms race by any stretch of the imagination quip has every opportunity to go by magnum moon, a horse. I didn't think all that much of an instead what happens magnum actually pulls away from the end. It just makes me wonder alternately how good this horse. Lee is now the the flip side the positive way to look at this horse is to say he was earning low to mid ninety buyers as a relatively early three year old. And now you would just assume naturally with progression maturation. He's going to take steps forward. And if he does and he gets into that sort of one hundred range or a high ninety range he squarely player in here goes eight Ortiz aboard he has a little bit of early speed percents. Nice trainer. There's just a part of me that looks at and says again a short price. I'm not thrilled with this horse. I think there are other interesting alternatives. If you're looking for a fresh face that's probably going to be a better square number than a horse like quip quip can win. I don't want them in here. And you're getting the theme for me with this race. I think it's a fun race thing. Any number of these horses can win. I don't know how good any of them are ultimately from gambling standpoint. I wouldn't wanna short price, Mr. Jordan. Look. He's hard knocker seven years old. He's won ten races. As you can see the elephant in the room. Right here is one. For eighteen lifetime. At the big stream. He's eight time second or third. I've long thought that this is actually best for him one turn miles. But then again, you go and look and some of his best races are going to turn at a mile in sixteenth. I don't know what you wanna do with them at this point. You turn them back out of that sunshine. Millions Beckley didn't work he loves Gulfstream Park west that's been well documented he could win this race. I just I frankly, I don't love his chances. But again, he's going to be a decent number in here. And if you don't like anybody else wanna take a shot with him the sevens. Copper town. Now, the reason I wanted to talk about copper town kind of separate from breaking lucky and fellowship as much as I questioned the quality of the field in the Fred Hooper. I you have to give copper town the benefit of the doubt in my opinion, as you can see I have written in here. And I'm not gonna go back and show it to you. But he acted up in the gate prior to the races might hit his head on the gate. Now, we've joked about it and there were people on Twitter commenting on. And I don't remember who they were. I don't mean snub. Anyone is not that. I'm I'm certainly not taking credit for this. I agree with the sentiment. That whomever. It was was tweeting about it. You know, you've got all these other things in different sports concussion protocol and all that kind of stuff if this horse did or there was any question. They potentially could hit his head on the gate. Why the hell wasn't. He backed out. Why weren't we allowed to have the vet or someone take a look and make sure that the horse didn't have kind of scrambled brains there for a couple of minutes that he wasn't in a fog that to me? Again, we talk about so many things racing racing. A lot of things that they need to get their act together with this is one of the more. This is one of the simpler things to fix. If there's any question back, the horse out take a look at them, you know, have to go and just spring the gate a little bit better with our time. So the reason again going back to that. If you do a chance to source popped his head on the gate. Clearly, he's probably out running with square head on his shoulders. I kind of look at it and say, you give him the benefit of the doubt. There you go back to the cigar mile. He didn't have the greatest starts pinched him between. Shuffled back. I didn't think this was really a terrible effort in the grand scheme of things. You can see that. I have trouble early mid move. He can be excused after that. You're left with three consecutive victories. And they're all sort of in the high ninety low mid one hundred range any of those three races. Probably gets the job done in here. Havi retains the mount just think again, if you're taking anyone out of the Hooper, I think it's copper town. I think opera towns one of the more likely winners in this race in a way. I look at him as a fresh face because of all this stuff. We'll find out what we get from him. If you get a third consecutive issue where perhaps there's an issue at the start or didn't. He doesn't behave in the gate. Maybe you gotta wonder if you just doesn't really wanna do it anymore. But I don't think we're at that point just yet he has excuses free to these to move onto the number eight horse, sir. Anthony, the upset winner at twenty five to one of the Harlan's Holiday. We're gonna go back. Take a look at that replay. Here you can see right now in between horses. You've got a couple of horses that are decent enough. The real name you want to keep an eye on this number one horse. This was audible this was. To be prep for him in the Pegasus World Cup. It was ultimately went to the Pakistan. You're in decent not great, but decent and back. Here. You have Sarangani Nassir Anthony is going to get the dream trip of all dream trips shooting up the wood is a horse that loves a wet track. He's three for four lifetime. You're gonna see how early is Lee changes already on his right lead. And it's just one of those things that, you know, love to see. But at the end of the day, we're not dealing with the superstar here, I can forgive that. Maybe he has a little bit of a physical thing. Meanwhile, now side again, we've gone over this race before audible doesn't get the job done, sir. Anthony with that rail skimming trip gets done here at a giant giant price. Now, the interesting thing here, you can justaposed the two different speed figures the buyers they gave this race relatively pedestrian rating, which I tend to agree with. But you do see the audible came back and earned that ninety four fourth place finisher on grass came back in eighty nine in the fifth place finish eighty five. So perhaps this number is a little bit low and again of talked about it in the past the difference between the buyer and the time form rating. Usually about a twenty point differential Utecht. Twenty onto this eighty three you're at one of three he take twenty away from the one fifteen ninety five all the sudden that race maybe that ends up being a little bit faster. Maybe this race star on holiday wasn't really as bad as it looked. Granted he had everything go his way he really likes to wet track. I would be siding against him in here. But I can understand that there is a little bit of appeal for this horse. Given the fact that he is sharp. He continues to improve. And again, there's a real scenario where perhaps this number right here. This buyer of Eighty-three is a little bit on the light side. Now, we get to the nine horse. Ultimately, the that I landed on that's prince lucky for Todd Pletcher, Johnny prince lucky I've never really been a giant fan of the random in Sunland, derby, just disaster was a message draw lines, sir. Barney comes back. I don't wanna hold that one against him entirely off of the layoff sloppy sealed track for the first time in his career faced some decent enough horses. Okay. I'll give him the benefit of the doubt. There comes back. In the easy goer Belmont on the Belmont Stakes. Undercard rental debt replay right now. First things first you can see the field. It's decent. It's not great the runner up rug Maimon his next start eighty four Darth Vader, a ninety six place. Finisher ninety one we're gonna go back to the tape though. And you're gonna see this is a very cushy trip. I think in the grand scheme of things throughout the beginning stages around the term for prince lucky he's between horses three or four path is blue hat with the white body. He's gonna end up being between horses between dark Vader and between rugbyman as they swing rounding the far turn it into the top of the stretch. The thing that I found most encouraging about this. Now, again, we've talked about it and use tell of silences the example, generally blanket, finish not a great thing. You're gonna see that more on grass than you were on dirt. Just based on the way those races run usually three or four horses across the wire on the main track not ideal rugbyman flailing around on his left lied there. I just like how game prince lucky is down between horses. I like the fact that he stays on not only stay. He actually continued to put a little bit of length between he and these other two horses. Now, again, it's not a it's not a brilliant effort by any stretch of the imagination. He needs to improve from a buyer standpoint. But again, if you take twenty off this one seventeen the role rating that at least puts him more in the mold of a horse that fits from number standpoint. In this race, something that you have to consider, and I know some people roll their eyes with these formulator facts that we roll out this is there are certain moves that are always strong for certain connections. I believe I can't remember completely. But I believe the Holland or for formulator in grade stakes races. Second off the bench is usually when they're ready to fire. It's big strike rate. And it's a big arline. Here's a move for Todd Pletcher that historically has just been good. There's no other way to put it past five years winner last del one hundred eighty day laugh or greater he's just under fifty percent. And we're not talking about like a four or six ample Cise fifty one races twenty five winters thirty four of them in the money of the two. Eighty three r y you add John Velazquez to that equation thirteen for twenty four seventeen times in the money just under three dollars or why I don't think that can go overlooked. I think in a race like this where none of them are superstars if you're like me, and you don't love any of them. I wanna have a horse that perhaps. I haven't seen his best keeping my net. Raise the easy goer was the three year old race. I star is a four year old. He's been working. Well, you see these bullets that he's bringing into the race. Johnny v maintains the mount again from a number standpoint if you project forward he's not that far off in the end of the day. This is a formula the fact that I think has some real substance and something that you want to keep an eye on. That's alternately. How I landed on the number nine prince lucky he has a little bit of tactical ability breaking from the floor outside. I think he tracks tries to go on with rounding the far turn. Maybe he's not as good as uncoupled stable copper town by I'll take a chance in here at a much better price. That's all timidly where I landed. This is a race. Where I I hate to be. I'm not trying to be mean. But it is what it is. I don't think you have superstars in here. I do think it's a great betting race. It's a fun race and very much looking forward to it. I think it's very competitive. But ultimately to me, I think prince lucky has enough enough positives that outweigh the negatives. Including a formulator fact, that's where I landed in the grades three house hope on Saturday afternoon downstream. So you have it prince lucky for me in the house hope, and again that stakes preview you can find that over video dot the dot com as well as the racing forms YouTube channel if you want the opinions from beer and Illman if you've been listening live, thanks for doing. So if you've been listening to podcasts like most of you, you sound soundcloud, I tunes video dot the dot coms will Spotify wherever you get your podcast, right or review. Subscribe leave rating the whole nine yards questions. Comments concerns? You can either do it beneath the video player on YouTube or on Twitter at Bernier underscore met. Usually keep an eye on that scene. What's going on particularly during Dan Saturday? I will be back with a proper recap addition coming up at the beginning of. Next week not a ton of big races going on this week. So that might be a real lean lean edition, but we'll find out in that leads us into bigger and better things next week as we get ready to turn the calendar over into March. It sounds like there might be a big showdown out in southern California between Baffert's big horses a game winner and improbable. We'll find out if that does come to fruition. But the number of good things on deck. You were getting right into the heart of the three-year-old lead up into the Kentucky Derby, we'll find out if some of these horses start to really separate themselves from everyone else. So best of luck this weekend. However, you play whatever you play wherever you play. I'm going to button. This thing up. We're gonna throw it into the leads edition of out of the gate talk again or I will speak anyway back again at the beginning of next week. With recap addition this has been the preview, dishing the map Bernier show.

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The Matt Bernier Show - Recap Edition - February 25, 2019

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The Matt Bernier Show - Recap Edition - February 25, 2019

"Blue. Going show on TV live drrooFcom life dot com. Daily racing forms Twitter handle at the inside post as well. As the daily racing form Facebook page. My name's map, Bernie or you can follow me on Twitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. This is the preview. This is the recap addition early in the week recap addition going back taking a look at too big rated stakes races from this past weekend. Wanna go stream park one out at Santa Anita wall. So give you the stakes montage with some quick hits. Some thoughts about some of those races. That weekend's best as far as Beyer. Speed figure performances are concerned. We'll get you out of here with what's on tap for DR f- TV for the rest of the week as well. The over on I tunes apple podcasts. However, you get your podcast, please subscribe writer review, Lisa rating of your over on YouTube quick, that's scribe. But and make sure that belly cons lit up. So you get everything that Diaw TV has to offer write a review, do whatever you need to do. Comments questions concerns beneath the video player on YouTube Oregon onto. Hitter at Bernier underscore, Matt. Let's dive into it the race done. Gulfstream? We'll go over was the house hope one turn mile on the main track. Let's take a look at the field. Eight of them signed on post time favorite was breaking lucky actually, the two favorites. Almost coach ICES a nine five shot in a two one chapel exited. The Fred w Hooper which was run at the end of January erase that. I was on record saying, I didn't think was very good. But if you wanted to take anyone out of that race, perhaps it was copper town simply because he may or may not have hit his head on the gate at start of that. And you know, what you know on his best day he's capable of big effort, but the other horses exiting that race. Just didn't think it was a quality event. Beaded have some interesting fresh faces particularly quip coming off of along left hadn't seen him since the Preakness last year. But you figured maybe we know sorta natural progression from three to four coming off the bench. Maybe he would be the one that'd be able to get the job done. He ran well, but not well enough. It was one of Todd Pletcher to entrance in here. Let's take a look at the stretch run of the house hope town after three quarters. Nine and one they will in it's a pleasure showdown with an eighth of a mile to go fellowship tries to spoil the party with a late run down the STAN side, but prince lucky is winning the battle with copper town. And he's going to win the house hope it's prince lucky John Velazquez moving clear in the end the win by five second. Copper town quickest third up for prince lucky prevails in a very emphatic fashion winning this race by six links over copper town who was the second choice to one and the third choice at odds of ninety two was running third behind prince lucky. Let's talk about prints lucky a little bit more. He's five of nine lifetime seven times in the money. Just over two hundred ninety one thousand dollars in career earnings owned by Daniel McConnell trained by Todd Pletcher bread by Daniel w McConnell, senior in Pennsylvania ridden to victory by John Velazquez needs the pedigree at the bottom of the horse card. He is by Carinthian out of a great notion merit named lucky notion. This was a smashing effort from prince lucky one oh six buyer. Never looked like a loser at any point. And he was out in the clear. It was a perfect trip. Don't get me wrong. You need to take that into consideration as well parked out in the clear never had any sort of issue never had to overcome anything. But at the same time. He never looked like a loser at any point in this race. He was cruising along look very, very visually. Comfortable John Velazquez didn't ask them to run until they get to the top of the stretch. And at that point kicked away from copper town, very impressively. The one six that to me, you know, I'd said when I went over this race and the preview show last week that it felt like this division that just there was no, no giant miler. And perhaps here you are perhaps prints luck. He's going to be that horse going forward for perspective sake, considering those top three they were the three horses that were one two three throughout the running. So something you wanna factor in? But when you look and see how fast copper town and quip came home in their final quarter miles and compare that to prince lucky you're talking about a horse that was just on a different level. You take a look at copper, Tony came home and twenty six sixty five quip came home in twenty six forty two. Prince lucky came home in twenty five sixty one and we were talking about essentially five lengths faster than what any of these other two orces did so visually very impressive effort from prince lucky. Todd Pletcher has said that a quote from him was I would say prince lucky would look at the Gulfstream Park mile on Florida derby day, if you balances out of it, well meaning this race, and he also made a sort of a passing quote or passing comment about the idea that this may just be a starting off point for him from a distance standpoint. Maybe he does get to try to turn at some point down the road. I would love to see if this is sort of the progression that we're going on if he goes to a race like the Gulfstream Park mile, which would be at the end of next month or at the beginning of April one of the two I look at that and say, okay, you've run well, they're DEA put them away until the metropolitan handicap if he runs well there, then you think in bigger you thinking down the road you try race like the Whitney at Saratoga. You try some of those events. That's how impressive this effort was from prince lucky and division where it fee. Feels like and not just the mile is that can I can expand this to just the older horses in general. There are no superstars right now. This is a division that's ripe for the taking. Maybe prince lucky is going to be that kind of horse that can show up and sort of grab the bull by the horns as far as copper towns. Concerned ninety six Beyer speed figure I don't have any time for US ratings for either of these two races. And I'm gonna go over copper town with ninety six buyer. It was a solid effort. But there are reasons to believe at least in my opinion that we're trending the wrong direction. Now the cigar mile. He didn't get away. Great. He got pinched back, and he came with a nice mid move flattened out. I don't wanna hold that against him off of a little bit of a layoff as well. He comes back in that, Fred w Hooper, and again, I made mention he may or may not have hit his head on the gate, and I don't wanna hold that race against him considering a chance that you know, he just wasn't all there. You had a little bit of scramble brain this race here. He stumbles badly out of the gate, and he's forced to be used early to establish that position. And now we're looking at it. And I'm saying, okay. This is three starts in a row. This horse hasn't gotten out of the gate, particularly well. He did rebound and was able to go on and he put quip away. So that's a positive, but then turned for home. He never changes leads any point down the lane. He looked like a tired horse getting choppy at the end, you know, I couldn't help. But look at him now and say, all right. We might be trending the wrong way with him. He might be going off form. But if you are saying that, you know, what the ninety six buyers faster than what a lot of horses are capable of running from raw talent standpoint. Copper towns always had it question is can you keep them together? And now can you get him out of the gate sort of alertly do wonder if this is going to be a horse that maybe look at a race? Like, the Carter handicap, I have read anything, but I would say the Carter at seven eighths. A slight turn back in distance last year's Carter. I look army mule rent a hole in the wind recent years, the Carter has been hit or MRs far as qualities concerned if you think town can get you ninety six buyer. I would imagine that's going to put him as one of the contenders race like the Carter should they choose to go that route if they choose to go somewhere else. So b but I wonder if copper town you take a shot. With that race. And you hope that that's actually the thing that you can get did that big windfarm. And then at that point, you know, what let's give them a little bit of a breather in plan ahead from their plan accordingly. Quip I wrote about it on DR live on Saturday. I don't to be honest. I don't know how good he is. Or isn't the sample size for him from running standpoint was so small going into this race than I think the jury was still out how good was he actually, you know, when he's allowed to go out there and do everything on his own like he did in the Tampa Bay derby. He can look very very nice. And I know he sat off of targeted in actually cut out, all the fractions. But then you look at the Arkansas derby he ran fine there, but he was no match for magnum moon. And I made mention that that is a whole just left lot to be desired. I'm not gonna hold the Preakness against him becomes back here. And he basically runs from a number standpoint. Same kind of racy ran earlier three rolled the ninety four doesn't mean he can't improve and expect him to improve perhaps getting to turns going to be better for him. It just I still don't. No, how good I actually think quip is nice horse. But he's a great one caliber runner. I don't know. I think a little bit too early to tell might my gut feeling says, no. But you know, what? Again, it's early and you can certainly take a step forward here. Wherever his next start is as far as the rest of the fields concerned. I didn't think there was a heck of a lot going on. I know tayla silence picked up some pieces late, and he was really one of the only horses doing any running at the end. But again, he just to me feels more like an under Nin underneath kind nibble fellowship made a nice big bold move. And then he just flattened out that's basically fellowship in a nutshell. Breaking lucky was terrible. You hope everything's okay with him. Mr jordan. You do wonder he just clearly loves Gulfstream Park west and Sarangani serenity ran his race, you know, ninety two buyer that was a Ford move for him, technically. But I just don't know that I'm really sold on him is true. Graded stakes runner may be listed steak or a grade three type, but really there was one horse in this race that stood out head and shoulders. Above everyone else. Afterward anyway, prince lucky visually awesome winning this year's Hal house hope with a one oh six buyer sounds like it could be onto the Gulfstream Park mile. And then to me, I look at it and wonder d start seeing races. If he continues trending this direction DC, the metropolitan handicap in the maybe stretch them out and you see him in a race. Like the Whitney over the summer at Saratoga time will tell right now, you know, you get a nice horse here prince lucky with a one oh six buyer and the main event out at Santa Anita on Saturday was the Boina vista for fillies and mares going mile on the grass take a look at that field. There was a heavy favourite in here deservedly so fos alita for Jerry Hall indoor for she was bet down to odds of four to five and field of nine. She's just been rock-solid since Hollander for claim her for forty thousand dollars. She's become a great one winner. A multiple graded stakes winner over different distances at different tracks. You name it. She is capable of doing full place coming from off of it. She deserved to be the favourite, and she did not disappoint. Here's the stretch. Run of the Buena Vista luck is also firing a big shot outside of her at the time. Of this behind Muira Vassiliko motoring down the center of the courts has missed that behavioral gets Liebman. Here's Salita storming hall in the center of the course and Fussell leak a streak of luck continues knifes rally into second. But Vassiliko the story just keeps getting better as she wins. The win of ninety four Beyer speed figure for vaseline getting the job done as the four five favorite streak of luck. The long shot in the board really impressive effort from her to finish second. Odds of fifty three to one and your third place. Finisher MS bad behavior at odds of seven to one St. a look vaseline alita. She's one half of her thirty lifetime. Start seven other times. She's been in the money just under nine hundred forty thousand dollars in career earnings owned by all shock racing. Excuse me. All schlock stables LLC holland'll for LLC. Gotta racing LLC into Daro trained by Jerry Holland door for bread by Mikhail Yaakov in Kentucky individually by fluffy and Pratt, the pedigree at the bottom of the horse. She is by skip shot out of a market merit named La Belle Marquette again, the ninety four buyer for vaseline good. This is on par with her. She is a mid ninety kind. Of course, she shows up and just delivers her run, no matter what she's rock-solid. And it's it must have been at least a mild bright spot on a sad day for the or for barn. Well documented already the this point now with unfortunate situation with battle of midway breaking down on Saturday morning needing to be euthanized. So the Hollander barn had heavy arts going into this. But hopefully Vassiliko did a little bit to lift their spirits. She is just a professional racehorse. She shows up and runs. It doesn't matter. What is thrown at her? And it sounds like there's a little bit of a plan already being mapped out for her. She'll be pointed to the Royal heroine out at Santa Anita on April the sixth and that could be a spring border steppingstone to erase on the Kentucky Derby weekend, Kentucky, Derby undercard on may fourth the Churchill Downs distaff which. Mile race for the Phillies and mayor so could be bigger and better things and potentially some travel vaseline coming up here in the upcoming months again. I look she's awesome. She just shows up and run. It doesn't matter. What the conditions doesn't matter the distance the surface where she's going I say surface, meaning track and just from a running south standpoint, she can come from way out of it. She can be forward to placed she's just really cool horse. She can she got her final quarter mile and twenty two eighty six streak of luck came home in twenty two seventy seven she earned ninety one buyer as long shot on the board. Now, it must be admitted that there was a hot pace in here von more whenever she is in a race. You know, what her game is at speed speed speed today. No different twenty two and two for the opening quarter forty five and two for the half nine in one for three quarters, and they stopped the clock and thirty three and one this is just a hot effort all around. I think MS bad behavior in sneaky well in here shared in eighty eight buyer, I understand and myself included. I'm starting to look at her as more of a nigger when you consider she was closest to. Too fond moralistic closest you take that with a grain of salt von Maur at one point five lengths clear the field. But she was the one that was in close to tendency eventually took over at one point at the top of the lane, and she just got run over by two horses coming from well out of it. She stuck around. She was getting a little bit short and choppy at the end, she still finishing twenty three sixty eight and she had thrown down herself a number of sub twenty four quarter miles. I kind of feel like this is probably a little bit better than looks the problem for her is probably gonna wanna vaseline again. You're next race going down the hill. She's good. I don't know if she's as good. She is at a flat mile. You know, there's she's a horse that will make money for the connections. No question. She's probably a little bit. I wanna say class compromise. That's not. That's not what I'm looking for. She just probably a notch below the best of the best. She's really talented. She's nice Philly in their spots for her. But I just wonder if perhaps this is a little bit too much take these chains. Find in southern California not a terrible effort by any stretch of the imagination. She was relatively close as well. She couldn't get over the hump on dean against it was a little bit of a better effort than what we've seen. I do wonder if that three day turnaround in late December did that take a little bit of the starch out of her Lisi world in her first start for new connections in southern California. You know, you can sit there and say, oh, well, she came from last and it's going to be difficult to make that kind of ground well vase leak in streak of luck came from seventy eight. So to me, there's a scenario where you just look at it and say. Maybe you lease world just not as good as some of those other horses wanna give the benefit out. She was coming off of a bit of a layoff hadn't seen her since October. That was a tough effort up would bind going distance. She doesn't really want. I suppose she could move forward. But those of us familiar with her on the east coast now she's Elise world. And you know, she's no superstar by any stretch. I'm sure she can improve. Can she improve enough to really be threaten this division? We'll find out in time compelled long maintained she's better short going short distances on turf, whether it's down the hill was six furlongs at laurel. Whether it's five and a half somewhere else, I would ship out of town and fawn Mara. You know, she's she's been in good form for a while. But now this is a few consecutive kind of subpar efforts. And I wonder I don't think you change the running style. But I do wonder if she's just one of those Phillies at this point five year old mare that she just need a breather. She needed a little bit of a break. Refresh get ready to go for a race in may or June something like that just my two cents. But vaseline we know what she is. She. She is rock solid. She is consistent. She can take game anywhere, and she can do anything. She gets the job done for Hollander for company in the boy nevi STA with a ninety four Beyer speed figure. We're gonna cut to this week's stakes montage when we go through that I will come back to be some quick hits and thoughts on a couple of those races. And then we'll roll it right in to the weekends best as far as Beyer speed figure performances or concern. So without further ado here is this week's touch quarter of a mile to do it in a wheel in its play on into front two and a half. Just ain't right tries to get after second late run from ginger nut down San side finally of a mile and play on is running on Playon, and Sean Bridgman a gate to wire win in the melody of colors win by three lep second. Catch a thrill close after that left to go off the tournament stretch drive. Cloudy, ater king comes away with the lead from the back. It's running on Jackson. Not the favorite stand up Jackson's the wonders erupting late finally of a mile Jackson and the red. Bikers tries to get to. Yes. I am free who just took the lead. Yes. I am free with a win Jackson his second. It's closer for thirty. There are they turned for home. Now, the half Forty-six seconds stones in the road flush on the outside. They're moving for the eighth pole stones in the road has two and a half. Langlade flushes. Second would princesses now. Moved into third stones in the road is gonna make it three for three in her young career stones in the road of front. Running score underachieve Mirage. It was close for second between flush and dhadly. Debbie, hop and got their head and shut three and fraud down the outside wicked datum battling away is woken stoke hustle up in fraud wicked indeed going to sick, but it is hostile up welling truly out in fraud wicked Indy coming now, but it's still hustle up by two and a half in the mind that daddy thousand trading winds of thoroughbreds took finches got it. Hostile up from wicked. Indeed woken throws is running on KP slick and placing laws that link back to that way on the outside victim of love the Senate that way and down the outside backlash parade of roses as they come down the lane. It's victim of love getting clear and victim of love with great acceleration. Too clear now three and victim of love by a length three quarters to backlash in the quarter pole and turn showed a mode on the outside. And that's why sky s wife car has a narrow lead with a furlong left to go show it it's a half length behind then. It's cocoa. Kisses in third of sixteenth Toco as Weiskopf showed him out contact outside show. It will win the spring fever. She s on for me to add as far as the stakes montage concerned. Just a couple of quick thoughts melody colors play on she blitzed the field usually those five turf races. Speed is always very dangerous you'd rather. Be on the front and trying to come from way out of it. The one thing I would say is you probably want to give ginger nut the benefit of the doubt because she checked hard going into the first turn or the far turn excuse me. Keep in mind. This is our first start in the United States is a situation where John's Adler shipped her from California out to south Florida coming off a little bit of a layoff. And then she did rally on at the end. So I think you want to me that was a little bit better than maybe looks for ginger nut. Maybe she's money wanna keep an eye on Sunland on Sunday afternoon. The island fashion just an oddly run races in general one point too early pacesetter ended up being last and then rallied on and on the flip side, the horse that was trailing early ended up making a nice little sort of knifing moved on the backside to get new perfect stalking position. And ultimately went on to get the job done. It just it. I don't know that I want to say anyone was awesome or not in that race. But it just and very oddly run race for horses that were forward ended up falling back and then coming on again. And horses that were back early. They made these sort of earliest moves to establish position and went on with us for the mind that berbie is concerned, you have to just wonder about the quality in my opinion. Hustle up as a nice horse. Don't get me wrong. But he's pulling early he setting legitimate fractions. And no one can come and get him know, look, he's solid, but we've seen from speed figure standpoint, he just really hadn't gotten all the much faster he likes to win races. And that's something that you obviously need to tip the cap to. But when I look at that, and I see a horse like wicked indeed who's just kinda going up and down and sure he made up a little bit of ground late, but wicket indeed you just have to look at it and say if you couldn't get the job done situation like this with the class relief. You probably just not that good. And you're probably out of derby contender, you're probably gonna be able to look for some of these smaller awards here and there, but you're not really a horse that needs to be viewed as a contender on the road to the Kentucky Derby, in my opinion, this far as hustle up is concerned. I would imagine you go onto the Sunland derby, you take your chance there if it works. Hey, look, more power to you go on with it. I just think we're probably looking at a pretty weak field coming out of that mind that berbie and then spring fever on Sunday out at Santa Anita. They put on a show the two big girls did. S Y sky and show it in mo-, it showing mo- is just genuine. She's very game at for a minute. Maybe Ronald got a little bit too cute leaving that big opening on the inside for S Y sky to go through. But once showed him, oh, kind of sauve that we had a little bit of a fight on our hands. She dug in gamely went on with. And that's the kind of race that makes me look at it and say S Y sky is not going to be showed in mow on the main track on turf, totally different game. And I said it in stakes preview, I guess by sky is considerably better on grass than she is on dirt. But having said that it's still not take anything away from showed him. Oh, she's just a nice nice horse. Alexa, get into a dogfight and get the job done. Let's throw it into the weekends best. As far as buyers concerned take him right in order, the three year old males on dirt, Mr. moneybags eighty nine in a stakes race down Sam Houston. Three ruled Phillies on dirt stones in the road. Saw. Her win the Franklin square with seventy act three rails on grass. We saw Texas glitter. Yes, I am free earned an eighty buyer play on who would just spoke about. She was the highest earning three year old filly on turf, eighty four buyer in the melody of colors, older males on their prince lucky. We talked about him at the top of the one of six and the house hope old affiliate mares on dirt. Chocolate MARTINI now winners of two other than down at Oaklawn park. Sharon's a very solid figure and older males on turf alright and what's on the agenda. Ninety three buyers each one coming at the fairgrounds. One coming at Santa Anita older fillies and mares on the turf fossil league of we know what her game is ninety four buyer winning the Boina vista out at Santa needed there. You have weekends best force Beyer. Speed figure performances are concerned DR f- TV schedule of events big weekend. Coming up here found a youth Saturday Gulfstream we're gonna have a number of stakes races. All of those will be in previews. I would imagine the fountain of youth is the Saturday. Derrick Pitts race of the day. You will have all sorts of good things latest edition of of the gate. You'll have the preview addition of the map Bernier show. 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Samuel Pepys, Beyond the Diary

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Samuel Pepys, Beyond the Diary

"Hey, everybody, I would like to tell you about a new podcast called sleep. Walkers. You might not care about AI, but AI cares about you. And this is a show that highlights the significance of stories about artificial intelligence by providing compelling content from the pioneering thinkers, scientists and engineers connected to it sleep walkers, answers questions, like how can I stop somebody from joining ISIS? What happens to doctors, if an AI can diagnose illnesses better than they can? What is a song written by sound like you can tune in to sleep? Walkers, a brand new podcast that airs every Thursday listening, follow heart radio app, or subscribe, wherever you listen to podcasts. Welcome to stuff you missed in history class, a production of us, how stuff works. Hello and welcome to the podcast. I'm Tracy v Wilson and I'm paulie frying family will peeps has been something of a recurring character on our show. We have either namedrop Optum, or read bits of his diaries are episodes on and Lister and the pirate Henry, every and the straw, hat riots and Britain's theft of tea from China and the body, how house riots of sixteen sixty eight and the belief that the Royal touch could cure your scruffy lower. I have to imagine breeders hosts have at some point said something about Samuel peeps, too. But that's a lot harder for us to track at this point. I think all historians eventually talk about it will be at all eventually comes back to peeps, something that came up in one of these discussions between Holly and me, which was that we had both read selections from peeps diary in school. And yet, we did not know until working on the spot cast, how funny it could be. Like our experience was the opposite of the Princess bride were somebody had gone through the diary. And only left in the boring, parts when I started working on this episode, I was also surprised to learn that the funny parts were not the only thing left out of my Samuel peeps. Experience in school are episode on an listers diaries talked about how much of them were dedicated to detailing her sexual relationships and the same thing is true for Samuel peeps, and parts of his diary are similarly explicit like one passage that I was reading I was researching this caused me to go out loud at my desk. We aren't going to be reading that pack passage bitch, like fair warning. See, I knew there was duty stuff in the diaries. Am I wonder if am I don't remember? Exactly what copy I read it various points in my education. I wonder if maybe in my case, some of the funny stuff was there, but I didn't get the comedy. I think probably every every Samuel peeps thing that I had read had been in an anthology you like not a standalone copy of any. Anything and I like I went back and looked as I was working on this. We like him. I am. I like fudging my own memory here, and no like my Norton anthology of English literature from back in my college days, like only has a couple of passages. They're only about the fire. They're not funnier racy in any way. And I think that was the case like anything that I was reading was was excerpted in another work and not like a standalone more Linke thing, regardless that we're coming up on the three hundred fiftieth anniversary of peeps last diary, entry which was written on may thirty first of sixteen sixty nine so it seemed like a good time to take a closer. Look, not just at the diary, but also at who peeps was beyond his famous chronicle of life in seventeenth century, London. Samuel peeves was born in London on February twenty third sixteen thirty three his father was a tailor and his mother was a butcher's daughter, so they were not particularly prominent or affluent family Samuel had ten sibling. Things, but only two of them live to adulthood. And of those three Samuel was the oldest with the help of other family Samuel was able to go to school. He went to Huntingdon grammar school. And then moved onto Saint Paul's school from there. He went to Cambridge where he started a lifelong friendship with John Dryden, who would go on to be England's first poet, laureate peeps, graduated with a BA in sixteen fifty three the peeps family had one connection that served Samuel extremely well. That was Edward Montagu who has Samuel's father's cousin in what eventually become the first Earl of sandwich. He took an interest in Samuel and hired him as a secretary had that not happened Samuel probably would have pursued a career in law and sixteen fifty five Samuel married. Elizabeth Michelle, she was the daughter of a French Hugo, who had come to England as a refugee. They had a religious ceremony on October tenth sixteen fifty five when Elizabeth was fourteen and Samuel was twenty two and then. They had a civil ceremony on December first by which point, she had turned fifteen. This was definitely a match made for love and not for money. The same Machel's had been well off in prominent, but they had fallen on hard times, in part, because of her father's religious conversion Samuel wound up supporting several of them financially. But at the start of his marriage to Elizabeth he wasn't in a position to do that at all. He couldn't even afford lodgings for the two of them. So they had to live in his room in Montagues quarters at Whitehall, palace in spite of their feelings for one another, which when they do seem to have genuinely been very fond of each other and their ages today are highly questionable. But at the time like that was those are pretty normal ages to get married. Their marriage got off to a really rocky. Start Elizabeth had some sort of recurring persistent gynecological problems and Samuel was in a lot of pain due to stones in his bladder and urinary tract. So from the very beginning, their physical relationship was difficult and probably painful. For both of them Elizabeth's feelings on this aren't really recorded anywhere. But it was hugely frustrating for Samuel also while Samuel was besotted with his wife. He was deeply jealous and possessive. She was lovely lively and charming intended to attract the attention of other men, as far as we know Elizabeth was always faithful to Samuel. But she also clearly enjoyed flattery and attention. If Samuel thought a man was paying too much attention to her, or that she was being too flirtatious he would get angry about it and assigned from that he could be very critical of her all of this together made their relationship really tense. Elizabeth went back home to her family for a few months in sixteen fifty seven the returning to Samuel at Whitehall in December. They finally moved into a place of their own the following August, although their relationship continued to have just serious ups and downs. They both had volatile tempers peeps had a lot of affairs and they were known to fight and even threat. Each other. When things got really heated, at least in peeps diary, though, which is virtually, the only source of information that we have about Elizabeth. They also have seemed really genuinely fond of each other. When things were good on March twenty six sixteen fifty eight peeps, Heddle, Asada me, which is a surgical procedure to remove a bladder stone, a surgeon named Thomas Hollier removed a stone that measured about two inches in diameter, which Samuel kept in a specially made case to show to people afterward. He recovered with no complications, which is incredible. Considering that there was no anesthesia in the instruments, weren't in any way. Sterile, these surgeries weren't uncommon at the time but deaths and complications were pretty commonplace. Peeps developed other stones leader on, but for a time after this procedure, he was almost symptom free. I said in this outline that he recovered with no complications, he and Elizabeth never had any children, and one of the things that people site, as maybe a reason for that is that this procedure might have been success. Awful at removing the stone, but also might have inadvertently made him unable to have children. That's all very speculative though, like, we don't know exactly why they didn't have any children peeps wrote his first diary, entry on January first sixteen sixty and he referred to this ailment in the very first sentence, quote, blessed be God. At the end of the last year, I was in very good health without any sense of my old pain, but upon taking of cold, we'll talk more about the diary later, especially through this next section of episode. But this is when he started keeping it sixteen sixty was a big year for Samuel peeps. He finished his masters degree, and he was part of the fleet that brought king Charles, the second back to England super-quick recap Charles, the seconds father, Charles, the I was king during the English civil wars, which were series of conflicts, primarily between royalists and parliamentarians Charles I was executed in sixteen forty nine and Charles the second was forced into exile in sixteen fifty. One Oliver Cromwell who had been a general on the parliamentarian side became Lord, protector of England Scotland and Ireland not long after Cromwell's death in sixteen fifty eight royalists started working out a deal to restore Charles to, to the throne, obviously, it was a lot more complicated than those quick highlights and also complicated where their loyalties of peeps. Patron Edward Montague Montague had fought on the parliamentarian side. And he had been closely connected to both Oliver Cromwell and his son, Richard Pugh, tried unsuccessfully to follow in his late. Father's footsteps Montague had actually advocated for Oliver Cromwell's to be crowned as king. But by the spring of sixteen fifty nine royalists and parliamentarians alike. We're wondering if Montagues allegiance was shifting Charles, the seconds representatives made overtures to him while parliament stripped him of his admiralty commission. Am for good reason he was negotiating in secret for the return of the king? But after he very, politically chaotic end of sixteen fifty nine and beginning of sixteen sixty Montagu was reappointed to the admiralty commission and made general of the sea, along with George monk, who was actively working to restore Charles, the second to the throne, once a deal was negotiated for Charles's return, Montague secured the fleet that traveled to the Netherlands to bring him back to England and thanks to Montagues influence Samuel peeps was on board with that fleet the fleet landed back at Dover with the king on may twenty fifth sixteen sixty and almost immediately Charles. The second made Montague and Earl that was the beginning of a tremendously eventful decade for peeps, personally, and for Britain in general, then we're going to talk more about all of that after a sponsor break. This episode is brought to you by the Home Depot. You already trust the Home Depot for studs sheet rock electrical everything to build your house. 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I can that's worked out really well for peeps through the Earls influence in the summer of sixteen sixty. He was named clerk of the axe at the navy board. That's the administrative board responsible for running the Royal Navy. And keeping it maintained and supplied this position came along with a salary and a house. And it also meant that peeps became a Justice of the peace in the counties where the dockyards relocated, this was the beginning of a lifelong career as a naval administrator peeps was a very hard worker, but he didn't actually know anything about the navy like at all. Nearly his entire experience was going on that voyage to bring Charles the second back to England. So at first he mostly just deferred to the rest of the board. Some of whom had decades of navy experience. But over the next couple of years peeps, realized that having a long career in the navy didn't necessarily make a person in upstanding, naval, administrator or any good at it. He started to see a lot of laziness and waste and corruption and he became a specially distrustful of the men whose commands had been passed down to them through their families rather than rising through the ranks based on their merit. But none of these opinions race the fact that these men had knowledge and experience that peeps just didn't so he got to work trying to close that gap as much as he could is own education had been really weak in math. So he got a tutor and started learning multiplication tables, he immersed himself in the terminology and procedures and measurements that were needed to build maintain and supply ships soon. He stopped following the lead of the more senior board members and started trying to make things more efficient and orderly which really drew the ire of some of his colleagues peeps was taking on additional roles as well. He became secretary. Any of the committee that ran the English colony at Tange ear, which had been part of Catherine of Braganza 's dowry when she married Charles, the second, he was elected as fellow of the Royal Society in sixteen sixty five, the second Anglo Dutch war started leader that year and many of the rest of the board were aging, or it see, so peeps found himself overseeing a large part of the navy's worse. I'm administration, including setting up a centralized provisioning system in the mid sixteenth, sixties peeps witnessed to catastrophes and very quick. Succession, the great plague of London in the great fire of London. The plague struck landed in sixteen sixty five although peeps diary, also includes news of the diseases spread elsewhere. In the years before that on April thirtieth sixteen sixty five he wrote, quote, great fears of the sickness here in the city it being said that two or three houses are already shut up. God, preserve us all his entries through sixteen sixty five and into sixteen. Sixty six detail fear of the plague and death toll some of which were enormous on August thirty first he wrote, quote in the city died this week, seven thousand four hundred ninety six and all of them six thousand one hundred two of the plague, but it is feared that the true number of the dead this week is near ten thousand partly from the poor that cannot be taken notice of through the greatness of the number and partly from the Quakers and others that will not have any bell ring for them for the first few months of sixteen sixty six he records numbers that decrease than increase decrease, again, then finally noting a day of thanksgiving for the plagues end on November twentieth. Although he acknowledges that people were still dying. The plane was in its last month's when the fire began on September seconds sixteen sixty six peeps. Chronicled the fire much like he did the plague detailing people's fears along with what was burning and the progression of the fire itself, and how the city tried to stop it. The fire affected. Peeps for months after it was over the following February, he wrote quote, the weather for three or four days being come to be exceedingly cold again as anytime this year, I did within these six days. See smoke still remaining of the late fire in the city, and it is strange to think, how to this day I cannot sleep at night without great terrors of fire and this very night I could not sleep till almost two in the morning through thoughts of fire. The second Anglo Dutch war was going on through all of this, and peace negotiations started in August of sixteen sixty six and lasted into the following year as the negotiations progress the British government decided to recall, the fleet and scale down the navy while still trying to protect England from Dutch attack on March twenty third peeps wrote, quote at the office where sir w pen comb being returned from Chatham from considering the means of fortifying the river Medway by a chain at the stakes and ships lead there with guns to keep the. Enemy from coming up to burn our ships all our care being known to fortify ourselves against. They're invading us. So basically, they didn't have enough money to keep maintaining the navy like at the strength that it had been while they were more actively at war, but the peace treaty had been signed yet, so they needed to still have some kind of defense, and they were attempting to do this with a chain stretched across the mouth of the river, but a Dutch force did indeed attack the river Medway that happened on June ninth sixteen sixty seven they broke through that Shane destroyed some of the ships and captured others including capturing the fleet's flagship, the Royal Charles, this was disastrous for the navy. It was terrifying for the British people since it put the Dutch in striking distance of London, of course, than people questioned the judgement of the king over the whole thing. But the war did end with the treaty of Brenda a month later peeps being the administrator who had arranged so much of the withdrawal was. Investigated repeatedly in the end though the officers who made the decisions took more of the blame than the navy board who had figured out just how to carry out those decisions soon though peeps had other problems to worry about on October. Twenty fifth sixteen sixty eight his wife caught him with one of their maids. Deborah, Willet, Deb was eighteen and she had been hired primarily as Elizabeth's companion, and Elizabeth was, of course, outraged. They were not caught talking peeps was explicit in his diary about exactly what was going on on October thirty. First, he wrote quote, so ends this month with some quiet to my mind. They're not perfect after the greatest falling out with my poor wife and through my folly with the girl that I ever had, and I have reason to be sorry and ashamed of it, and more to be troubled for the poor girl's sake who my fear. I shall by this means prove the ruin of though, I shall think myself concerned both to love and be a friend to her in November Elizabeth forced Samya. You'll to dismiss Deb from their staff and agree to never see her again. But he did not keep that promise. He figured out where Deb had gone and went to visit and give her some money. It is not clear, whether he continued their affair after she was out of the household, though. And also, this was not the only affair that peeps detailed in his diary, he wrote about dalliances with his friends wives and his wife's friends and maids in their household, and on, and on, and on, and his attentions in these episodes were not always welcome on August. Eighteenth of sixteen sixty seven he wrote about going to church where he quote stood by pretty modest made who I did labor to take by the hand and the body. But she would not, but got further and further from me, and it lasts I could perceive her to take pins out of her pocket to prick me. If I should touch her again, which seeing, I did forbear and was glad I did spy her design, and then I fell to gaze upon another pretty made and a few close to me. And she on me and I did go about to take. Her by the hand which she suffered a little and then withdrew. So the sermon ended and the church broke up. And my words, ended two and so took coach and home and their took up my wife and two is linked with her. Oh, peeps as he was writing about the fallout of his wife's discovery of his affair peeps was also writing about problems with his is his diary entries record pain sensitivity to light and trouble. Seeing he found that drinking made it worse, but he didn't want to give up drink. He loved going to the theater, but the light bothered him there, and he was forced to stop going. He tried all kinds of compresses and potions and pills to no effect. And he was granted several months of leave to try to recover on may thirty first sixteen sixty nine he wrote his last diary, entry saying, in part quote, and this ends all that I doubt I shall ever be able to do with my own eyes in the keeping of my journal, I being not able to do it any longer having done now so long as to undo my is almost every time that I take pen in my hand and therefore whenever comes of it. I must forbear and therefore resolved from this time forward to have it kept by. My people in longhand and must therefore, be contented to set down. No more than is fit for them and all the world's a new or if there'd be anything, which cannot be much. How my Amores to Deb are past. And my is hindering me and almost all other pleasures. I must endeavour to keep a margin in my book open to add here and there note in shorthand with my own hand. And so I would take myself to that course, which is almost as much as to see myself go into my grave for which and all the discomforts that will accompany my being blind. The good God prepare me not long after Samuel and Elizabeth went to the low countries and France where she contracted some sort of fever. She died on November tenth sixteen sixty nine at the age of twenty nine Samuel never remarried, but he did start an ongoing relationship with a woman named Mary Skinner, not long after she eventually moved into his home and seems to have acted as his wife in everything. But name. But in spite of. Real certainty in the last diary, entry that he was going blind peeps did not lose his sight, as he feared that he would in his career continued on for almost two decades after his wife's attest. We'll have more on that after another quick sponsor break. 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Bobby Brown in her cinematic, debut, Godzilla king of the monsters storms into theaters may thirty first. A feminist. Peeps was struggling with his eyesight, an traveling with his wife. He was also up for election to the house of Commons. And that was an election that he lost. He also started facing rumors that he was a crypto papist or a secret Catholic, Catholics were highly suspect in England at this point and peeps had Catholic friends some Catholic family members. There were some Catholic books in his library. All of this raised a lot of eyebrows. The third Anglo Dutch war started in March of sixteen seventy two and peeps old benefactor the Earl of sandwich was killed in action. The two men hadn't been close for a while. The Earl had been caught up in a scandal about the distribution of wartime prizes and peeps had made enough of a name for himself that he didn't really need the Earls patronage anymore. Even so peeps was a banner bearer at the funeral in sixteen seventy three parliament passed a test act, which banned Catholics and non-conforming Protestants from holding public office. King Charles the second brother. Duke of York, refused to take the required oath that were Banda Tori for Catholics, which he was. So he was forced to resign as Lord high Admiral afterward. The king established and admiralty commission and peeps became its secretary this was a promotion, they came with more income. More prestige, and a lot more influence on November four th sixteen seventy three peeps was elected to the house of Commons. But once again, rumors surfaced that he was secretly Catholic, which led to another investigation in the end he kept his seat, although his work is an MP mostly stuck to matters of the navy, and he kept picking up new roles outside the government and his job with the admiralty including becoming a governor of Christ's hospital. The master of the cloth worker's company and the master of trinity house. He also works to reform and revitalise the navy, especially when it came to setting standards and establishing regulations for how things should be done. He successfully lobbied for funding to build new ships can. Vincent, the house of Commons to allocate six hundred thousand pounds for it in sixteen seventy seven largely due to peeps influence, and planning the strength of the Royal Navy nearly doubled while he was with the admiralty. He did all this in the face of ongoing accusations that he was a crypto papist his opponents, even went so far as to accuse his clerk of murder in may of sixteen seventy nine peeps, and Sarangani dean were accused of leaking British secrets to France and peeps was again, accused of secretly being Catholic. He resigned his position with the admiralty and he and dean were both sent to the tower as this was going on. It was widely believed that Catholics were planning to assassinate, the king, and put his brother, the Duke of York, on the throne, this so called popish plot did not exist. But people were certain that it did peop- started trying to put together his defense. But it turned out that the prosecution really did not have much of a case, one of the key witnesses. Against him was a Butler that he had previously fired. And the charges were eventually dropped peop- spent the next few years, mostly out of the public eye traveling collecting books for his library and acting as a secretary to Lord Dartmouth during an expedition to evacuate the British colony of tanger- after Britain decided to abandon it peeps returned to the admiralty in sixteen eighty four in a position that was created for him that same year. He was elected president of the Royal Society, his biggest claim to fame in this role is that he arranged for the publication of Isaac Newton's Principia Mathematica with peeps. Imprimatur featured very prominently on the frontispiece. This was however, funded by Edmond Halley, not by peeps, or the Royal Society, this was because peeps had already spent the society's budget and some of his own money on the elaborately illustrated history of fish, by Francis Willoughby, which then had been a total commercial flop kill like we, we talked. About in our Christmas time, episode, where we talked about Charles Dickens, and a Christmas Carol and how he just really wanted all of these engravings and illustrations. All those things were very, very expensive, and people would run through the whole entire budget. But if you look, there's plenty of scans of the, the frontispiece of Newton's Principia Mathematica and Samuel peeps. His name is one of the bigger things. That document in sixteen eighty five king Charles the second died and his brother, the Duke of York, finally did become king becoming James the second and seventh peeps. Continued on with the admiralty under the new monarch resuming, his plans to strengthen the Royal Navy while also just endlessly. Criticizing the people that had been in charge while he was gone. But none of this preparation, did the king, a lot of good in sixteen eighty eight William, the third prince of orange overthrew James in the glorious revolution William became co regent with his wife, Mary, who was also James's daughter. The new administration purge Charles's supporters from office peeps resigned was briefly detained under suspicion for treason and was ultimately released on medical grounds. Peeps spent most of his remaining life, reading and studying and amassing, a huge library, which he just continually reorganized and curated. He also published a book memoirs of the real navy and sixteen. Ninety Samuel peeps died on may twenty six seventeen o three at the age of seventy he was buried next to his late. Wife's Elizabeth at Saint olive church. He left his three thousand volume library to Magdalen college at the university of Cambridge with the stipulation that they be kept separate from the rest of the colleges collection. Today, those are housed as peeps library, which is open to the public and to scholars alike peep, diaries were part of this collection during the nine years, he was keeping the diary peeps would note, each day's activities often ending with and so soda bed, and then every few days, he would edit them a little bit. He didn't seem to meaningfully change the content, but you've gotta clean them up a little bit and copy them into a master journal. In addition to writing these in shorthand, he also used a hodgepodge of codes and other languages for the most salacious parts of it. The result was a set of six large volumes containing more than one and a quarter million words for more than one hundred years after peop Steph. No one knew what was in these diaries. It was only after John Evelyn's diaries were published in eighteen eighteen that scholar started trying to transcribe peeps as well. Evelyn and peeps lived at the same time, they were also friends. Yeah. They are sort of the two companion direst of this time in, in London at the time, the people working with the diary thought that it was written in code and Cambridge undergraduate named John Smith. Took on the task of decoding it king Charles, the second had dictated an account of his sixteen fifty one escape from England to Samuel peeps peeps had taken the dictation in shorthand, and then later transcribed it into longhand intending to publish it Smith compared these two versions to work out how to transcribe the diaries, this work wasn't actually necessary, though, peeps was really writing in Thomas Shelton's system of shorthand and the handbook for it titled tutor to tech Yager Affi was there in the library as well. Somebody apparent. Told John Smith like some years later, by the way, the manual to this was like it was right there. You didn't really I don't know what his reaction. I envisioned some hair, pulling and screaming but maybe that would just be me. He's with either hair, pulling and screaming like that was a fun challenge, though. I don't mind that I did a bunch of totally unnecessary tedious. Portions of the transcribed, diary were published starting in eighteen twenty five with longer. Editions coming out in the years that followed a mostly complete edition, edited by h b Wheatley came out in ten volumes across 1893 through eighteen ninety nine and all these nineteenth century versions profanity. And the most explicit parts are all edited out there are phrases sentences or sometimes whole days, removed, Robert Louis. Stevenson wrote about the diaries in eighteen eighty six. He expressed some chagrin at the idea that some parts of them were quote unfit for publication saying, quote, we may think without being sorted that when we purchase six huge and distressingly expensive volumes. We are entitled to be treated rather, more like scholars and rather less like children, the first edition that, didn't at it out, this X and profanity came out almost another century later was a nother series of volumes published between nineteen seventy nine. Nine hundred eighty three. So if you have only read the parts of the diary, there in the public domain are probably also about either the plague or the fire like we talked about, at the top of the episode to have a very different impression of this diary, then if you read other parts of an unexpurgated version, just as examples on October thirteen sixteen sixty he went out to see a public hanging, something that he seems to have really enjoyed doing this one was Major General Thomas Harrison, who had been convicted of regicide in the execution of king. Charles the first peeps wrote, quote, I went out to Charing Cross to see Major General Harrison hanged drawn and quartered which was done there. He looking as cheerful as any man could in that condition while on the boat with Charles the second during his return to England peeps wrote about a dog defecating on the deck saying, quote, I went with Mr Mann cell, and one of the king's footmen with a dog that the king loved, which expletive deleted. The boat which made us laugh, which made me think that a king, and all that belonged to him are. But just as others are he also didn't temper his opinions on September twenty ninth sixteen sixty two he wrote, quote, we saw midsummer night's dream, which I had never seen before, nor shall ever again, for it is the most insipid ridiculous play that I ever saw in my life. I saw I confess some good dancing, and some handsome women, which was all my pleasure. So, yes, peeps diaries include a pretty straightforward eyewitness account of several major historical events in the sixteen sixty s but peeps, clearly also thought everything around him was interesting and worth noticing. So these diaries are also a fascinating account of daily life in London, including what people eight and what they saw at the theater, and what music was popular and then little details like discovering that the whig you bought was full of nits or what to do, when you had tummy trouble while you were staying at somebody else's house, and the main forgot to leave you a chamber pot. It's of. With all kinds of random things that he saw, and was just delighted or surprised by and of course, all of those many, many affairs. And it's all online for free. Except those most explicit parts. If you go to peeps, diary dot com. It's been putting up an entry a day at a time since two thousand thirteen along with lots of annotations in letters and other information. And there are editions at project Gutenberg and archive dot org as well. So you have plenty to dig through, you want to learn more peeps can just click on some random stuff. You might have a day where he was in the office and everything was just political administrative stuff or you might get one about a dog pooping on the deck of a boat. Do you have a little bit of listener mail? I do have listener mail this from marine jumps back to a little bit older episode, but I still thought it was super interesting. So marine says hi Tracey and Holly. I've been jumping around in the archive. So I know you've already received many emails on, sir. Walter Raleigh, However, I thought you may enjoy this family story. My grandfather was a member of the merchant marine during World War, Two, he always claimed that. He had been on a boat. That was sunk off the coast of Africa, not one, but two times during the war both times, they were close enough to the shore, that he was able to swim to safety one of these times, the locals came out in boats to rescue them. However, before being allowed to board the boat. Each man had to pay for his passage with cigarettes. My grandfather apparently had the wrong brand either. It was, sir. Walter Raleigh brand, and they wanted something else, or vice versa, regardless, only those crewman with the appropriate brand, we're allowed to ride in the boats while the rest had to swim the remaining distance while he was stationed in Africa. We have a picture of him in uniform in front of the pyramids. My dad was always skeptical of this story, as my grandfather was known to be fond of a good story. However, recently when doing some genealogy research, I came across an admittance document for him to the port of New York, in nineteen forty four there was a space to explain why he didn't have the appropriate paperwork, and it said went down. Down with the ship. So we do at least have verification that he survived. One shipwreck on a separate note. I recently listened to your transatlantic cruising episode highly if you ever do choose to go on a Disney cruise I recommend you choose. 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Hot Starts and Closer Darts

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Hot Starts and Closer Darts

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Of course, I might say that about all twenty six weekends of the fantasy baseball season. Now, they are pretty cool. And there's a couple of games that were will be on Thursday that have been pushed to Friday of because of weather. We don't want these players to play in thirty degree weather. We want them to be at their best. And obviously some of them have not been in the weather's. Pitchers. Just had no command whatsoever. A hitter striking out way too much. And maybe the weather has something to do with that. So we went in the plane weather, sunny weather, it's supposed to be a nice weekend in the north east. And I might even break out the hammock for some radio play. Listen to my Phillies. We'll see. A big injury discuss we're gonna start with that. Here is the buzz. Tristan seems a little bit odd the two days after the trade Turner broken finger which came on a bunt misguided bundle tempt. We still don't have a timetable for how long it's going to be out. And maybe the nationals just don't know. Let us the other angle to this finding stolen bases in rotor leagues and points league, you don't need steel, you can ignore them at Adam up all the numbers together. So don't go picking up the line of this yields in a point. That's ridiculous. You know, you want Gordon points. But in a rodeo, I'm having a tough time finding stolen bases. It really. Is the shields. Greg Allen Girod Dyson Garrett Hamson, maybe Colorado. There's not much out there. Dyson was one of the first that I think is likely available in a large number of leaks that came to mind for me, and even there he's not an everyday player for the Diamondbacks, especially with Adam Jones performing well, initially Dyson just not getting the starts, but they are throwing them in their occasionally for defense as a pinch runner. So if you've got to go and desk. Fill that one category. Okay. And that's only the rotor leagues. You gotta be happy in the points leagues that they're more options because it opens up to hitters in which case Enrica Hernandez might be one those out there in a number of leagues I've been throwing nickhamed who's out there and a lot of leagues he's another one who could be useful in the points leagues. I like Hamson I like the Hamson thought he's playing regularly. We both had talked a lot about his raw speed during the preseason. He's got a good plate approach, and he's playing regularly now with Daniel Murphy sidelined. Right. And we don't have a real timetable on Murphy either expected to be at least through April. So Ryan McMahon there at home the Rockies for the first time the season they face the dodgers face. Good pitching. Although welcome Buehler's. First outing was pretty bad, but orients the Sunday night game when he is PIN is wholly aureus against Chad bed. It's at least as of now and the Rockies on a hit. I keep waiting for. He's still so young. I think it'll be fine. But again between McMahon Hamson in a points league. It has to be McMahon because he's got power in a row league though with so few players running. I think it's Hamson, and I'd agree. I think it's a little bit closer and points leagues. But I'm not as confident that McMahon is going to be in there every single day. I am for Hamson. I feel like Hanson is a better option at second base defensively for the Rockies, and I think McMahon's gonna fall into that occasionally going lefty righty with Mark Reynolds. First base. By the way, some of you know, the sound on our shows and recent episodes, but a little spotty. But we want you to know we are dressing it. Some new equipment is on the way. And we appreciate everyone's constructive feedback other injuries here your Yankees. I assume DJ LeMay you as the everyday third baseman now. Should I care about that? Well, he steal bases will Email hit for power and he may be the leadoff hitter soon. Like, they can't fat him fifth. What what happens with this? Yankee we talking about the the other day, but the end of our injured, I'm not sure we were sure about. Yeah. And I think there is the very real concern that if it goes poorly he loses the season here. I mean, he's out for the year because the left to have some sort of procedure to fix this. He is going to work through that. So I would say that that likely a month from now we'll be talking about Andrew hard getting back in the lineup. But it is a great opportunity in the short term LeMay who did lead off against the lefty yesterday. And I think that could be the case against most left handers. But maybe he will hit fifth sixth against the righties. He'll play every day. He'll play third base. I've got questions personally watching him about the defense at third compared to how he was at second base. And that could have an impact on the pitchers, but it's an opportunity, and I know the home road splits with the Rockies weren't grade. He was not nearly the hitter he was on the road. But Yankee Stadium does provide them decent little bump there. So in a daily leagues and the shallow mixed. I think you can least slot him in there in the home games. Look for new look for news later Thursday on Jake lamb of Arizona and Saint Louis cardinals out for more cell Zun h having Emory's on different injuries. They both look bad. I assume they're both going on the injured list and the cardinals could play Tyler Neil or Jose Martinez. I think they would lean to O'neil here. But I don't know and extra fouls walk to hit or Ron or do anything. So and with Arizona we both love Christian Walker. I assume that he would be the regular first baseman, and they wouldn't mess around Wilmer Flores over there. But give me your take on these situations. So I'll address Walker I because we made the comps previously to Hayes Aguilar that not necessarily where lorries today, but the way that he broke into the brewers lineup is somewhat similar to walkers. They need to be playing him regularly. Like, the brewers did with Agla they need to get aggressive with this because he is a player who put a great numbers and AAA and so far so good in the majors. Maybe he's not just this Quadra blade type. And then it gets a good ballpark. First power. Even with the humid or so definitely on board there for the cardinals. I'm a little unsure how that is gonna play out the thing with Martinez for me is just they signed into to that contract. They want to addition I'm here because maybe down the road he's trade candidate to an American League team. So I think there's going to be a lot of mix and match. I think you gotta wait and see if you can stash one of these guys on a deep bench. Go ahead O'Neill. Great power upside. I say Martinez is more batting average driven. Briefly on some hitters to watch over the past week. And the watch this week and Padres outfield hunter Renfro multi home run game on Tuesday. They still have too many guys friendship Cordero's playing men will more go. They did play. We'll Myers and center when they said, they wouldn't I slowly Myers. The only one you have to roster in team standard. But I would rank race over Renfro at this point. You agree. I do agree with that. Yes. And at least so far the lineups are supporting that racists been believe raises played five of the seven game. So far Renfro. I think it's he might have also had five I think it's four out of the seven. If you need a middle infielder with Turner injury doesn't have to be a guy who steals basis. Just get a guy was power, and you can make up the steals in July. Maybe Brandon Lau Tampa Bay is going in for some power. There are some new walkers is middle infield eligible I bet it's like fifteen home runs for Miami. And then gets traded somewhere else. I think there's more power options out there, not big power. But enough our that you can pick up speaking of power on Cada as a hidden every game superpower, three walks restrike. That's what I I noticed. He can't be a great player striking out two hundred times. But he doesn't look like the same hitter. Or is it just he's feasting on Cleveland's bullpen so far. What do you make on cod? If anything. Oh, we're gonna knock every Cleveland. That's not the rotation. I agree with you though on that Moncada. You know, what's really interesting about this is that it comes on the heels of what was an extraordinary spring training slash three. Fifty six four sixty nine six forty two during spring training eleven walk sixteen ks on the sixty four trips to the plate. So it's not like this is just a one week blip. Maybe he has made a little bit of an improvement there. Maybe getting the different look going over to third base is helping him as well. It helps certainly fantasy with the position flexibility here. But I like the fact that he got moved and this had no impact on his hitting a lot of times you see players struggle to adapt. So I'm a little by in here about a way for those asking and you do every year ten games as the mid season eligibility. Mark Moncada's at five games at third. He needs us five more ran a got a two home run game. He's hitting over the past week and also got paid a long term extension, which seemed a little bit odd. I mean, I understand the allergies getting along for extension and some of these other guys Brandon. Allow like the Scott King reveal grit six in between. We kind of think this is what he is. He's not gonna get any better. But is he still a twenty five home regard? Which is maybe good enough. You know, so far he's been a little bit more patient the walks or starting to come if that develops a little bit. If he bumps up, even the on-base percentage just a little bit. Let's say he gets up to three fifteen three twenty that is going to boost value by good amount. So I mean, it's a good ballpark for him. I like the fact that are making the commitment to him as a regular player. That's kind of the first time he's really gotten that long term to do. So I'm often asked how do you know when you start to believe in a starting pitcher that you didn't believe in March and the answer is I don't know I need to see more I need to see probably three or four outings. But you know, people are asking about match shoemaker who's pitching, great, Jordan Zimmermann who looks revitalize David has even I know sitting right there. But you know, these are guys that are being added leagues, Chris panic and holy orders. As different guys young. It's a hard. They should be really good match shoemaker. I mean, maybe this year's Trevor Williams, but I'm just. Not really buying. How do you know Tristan? You win your leagues. How do you know Wayne to actually pick up guys like shoemaker in Zimmerman when when others don't know? Well, one thing is that sometimes your roster forces you in detailing some chances, and you simply throw a dart on the wrong around the right guy. If you've got injuries, and you can move guys off to your injured spot or you have players who are struggling or on the sidelines or not on the rotation. You can cut them in at a couple of these players. And maybe you just hit the right Dard for me, though. It's if something has changed now and shoemakers case what's catching my eye is control. So far, pretty good. Keeping the ball down the ground ball rates over fifty percent. We're looking at less than two nine his walk rate. Now, it's an incredibly small sample. I understand that. But it's a plus I in fact, just to throw another name in there. Eric, and I talked about Freddie, parole to the other day, and I was very dismissive about him. And then I went looked and I saw that he's bumped up his fastball velocity near near two miles per hour. These things I'm writing down as I. Guys. And maybe I'd throw it. Dr today, they sit on my bench. I see how they go over the first four to six starts of the season. But these improvements, and those are the ones that should be catching your eye. I wrote about the brewers rotation in today's blog, I write blogs Monday through Thursday. They're posted go check him out. I like all the brewers starting pitchers basically, but check it out. Anyway, by the way, getting tickets online. We'll do these close right after this getting tickets online can be far too complicated with hundreds of sites varying levels reliability. It's hard to know to trust. That's why seek is the way to go. 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I will I will say this. I think Blake Parker is Minnesota's closer. Now. I'm not expecting more than twenty five say's. But it's pretty clear what happened yesterday was. I don't wanna say it was Trevor day was cruising. He got five outs. There was one left in the game. Alex, Gordon was up. And all of a sudden Blake park comes in. It wasn't a pitch count thing. I just think rockabilly bell deli wants the experienced guy. Don't you agree? Kind of. I actually think they might fit into what we talked about with rice L A glaze together day where I think he's the considered the best reliever who's gonna come in in the most critical moment in the game. And a lot of times those do reside in the ninth inning. But I think Parker is going to be the next read for bowl Delhi. I think there will still be a bit of a committee going on. In other words map orange pitch the eighth inning and tiger on the road against Oakland, which left Ryan Braise eater for the save. I guess you could say maybe. How do you pronounce it? It's Asia brazier. He could be the closer. I still think it's Matt Barnes though. If you had a roster one of them, I say, it's Barnes. Don't you? I agree with that. And I think this is another signal of and managers are doing this much more this season using your your closer slash best reliever. In the games. Most critical moment, I think that was all that was yesterday. Greg Holland is the NFL version of Shane green. But neither one of them are giving up anything. They both look good so far, which probably means you sell high and trade them, whatever you can. And you basically trade Greg Holland for your fourth or fifth L theater. And then you just go and pick up Anthony's Zaka Seattle who's probably going to do just as well. Right. Yeah. I would agree with that. And you know, I mean, they're saves there the closers they're performing right now enjoy it. But you're saying what I always do with this that you've got to formulate your exit plan, I cannot trust these guys over the entirety of the year. I would say given the choice between the two greens track record at least in the past couple years a little bit link. The're I feel a little bit safer with green of the to Alex Wilson, Milwaukee save on Wednesday. They can't use. Josh hater every day. But I do think Jeremy Jefferson. He comes off the list is going to be in line for a lot of saves there. So you can say whatever you want about hater. And he is awesome. Although, you know, one one of his say's would have been blown Lorenzo Cain. Does a jump over the fence the narrative might change the opener. Yeah. The game. Yeah. I mean, look Josh haters going to end up. I think a top ten fantasy relief pitcher with Coutts. Yeah. I think maybe top five, but it was twenty saves. I still say, no. Philadelphian Washington while that was hard to watch. I'll say this. Trevor Trevor Rosenthal, I feel bad. He can't throw strikes. He's not the only one. But if you picked up Rosenthal because Sean do little never pitch sixty innings. I don't think I don't think Rosenthal's next in line. He might not even be on the team a week or two. So he just he has to throw more strikes day Robertson, I kind of trust more to find his command. But he ain't getting to say this weekend. I'll tell you what I Hector narratives probably getting the next save over Sarangani Dominquez. I do I know why you know. I think the Mingas they want him to get more than three outs. So Dominguez is. I mean, I think that a lot of bullpens are Morphing into this. I want to use my best my best stuff reliever. For more than three outs at the games, most critical moment, and I think Dominguez fits that hater and glaze, and may and maybe that's Barnes. I think he fits that mold here. And I agree with you from that aspect. I really liked. Harris coming into this year. I thought that was a lot of value considering how late he was going. Even the only leagues I wouldn't be surprised by that give Robertson a breather here in less high pressure situation. He had thrown the ninth every game before that. And he has not look good. And on Mondays show, the new closer will be talking about AJ mentor of Atlanta. And who was the other one? I wanted to make sure we mentioned I forgot what I was going to say. But I'll probably remember at some point. Oh, David Hernandez. Cincinnati. I'm just I'm predicting that those guys will be getting saved and they will be getting safe soon. Well, I mean, you know, David, or if the glaze isn't closing the who is welcome welcome aboard the bandwagon. I talked a lot of throwing Dr David Hernandez and we'll see plays out. I don't know if I'm as Gresley jumping into this saves projection for David Hernandez, but I like the arm. I I don't think any read or Philly gets twenty saves now. That's that's what I think. By the way, there's a question here from Brett about Vince Alaska's role he's the fifth starter that so many off days in the first week. He's not a relief pitcher not yet he could be next year. But like if something's wrong Robertson. I don't think they go out and sign Craig kimbrel. I don't think move. Alaska's the bullpen either. I think they just use from within Pattni Schick might get some saves. But Alaska's is a starter. I just don't think he's going to be a fantasy rove one. All right. Let's move on now to the weekend preview as I moved down on my list here. Okay. ESPN? Plus today has Aaron Sanchez Toronto who I like against that awful Cleveland offense. You can't bet Tyler Neko and cleanup and Jordan loop blow and expect to score runs. And yet the managers and censure known as contract, we should all be so lucky, but Trevor Barrowman happy getting much run support today against Aaron Sanchez. That's something to watch. What do you think a court clover? That's too that outings. Now, Cleveland's offense is so bad and they're not going to get Linda back in April. Can you worry about Cleveland starting pitching? I mean, if you've got to put a weight on likelihood of wins, you need to make some sort of a judgment here. But I really hate overstating that I hate saying it at all that's the only thing that's gonna have an impact on terms of the starting pitchers. I think because I love those guys I mean first team in history to have four hundred strikeout guys. And I was what two years late on that bowl prediction way back when the offense is bad though. I don't think that's Frank fault. I think that's just the roster's allowed to just get stale year over year for the past two to three. But yeah, it's an opportunity for opposing starters Aaron Sanchez. I want to get on board with you. I do I feel like there's a good career there productive pitcher there. But the blister issues held him back in the past. I'm not I'm not quite there yet. I feel like this is just a streaming unity managers. Look good when they have good players, and they look bad when they had bad players. Okay. Was Gabe Kaplan fault that the Mingas and Robertson retire. No is a Francona 's faulted Tyler Neko's third-best outfielder. That's ridiculous. But no, of course, not. But when you know managers look Joe Madden who used to be a lot better. You know? I mean as a his fault, they had six hours the other day. Anyway, I also watch Darvish today. That's not Joe Madden's fall. When you Darvish his walking every other hitter. Almost literally I mean, you did as Tyler showed impression the other day. I don't know what you do there. I mean, if he does it again today, Atlanta, I guess they'd stick him on the fan of injury. And he has to work out his command, right? I mean, I do not want Darvish for this outing today my bottom, I wouldn't jump to the idea of throwing them on the I L just to get him off the roster and out of the rotation temporarily. But the fact that he had some injuries late in spring training makes me wonder too. So it's a good point, by the way on Friday. There is now day action at the White Sox at the Rockies. Get those lineups in early ESPN. Plus at night has Pablo Lopez whose everyone sleeper now you and me against Kevin GAAS men making his season debut. I'm not trusting Guzman yet Lopez you, and I both love I would add Brennan Woodrow from walkout out every Milwaukee started right now, I guess even Zach Davies, although he doesn't have the strike outside. I know you don't like him that much, but he was passable into sixteen and seventeen but would roof and Corbin burns could be excellent. That's why I'm saying add these guys Frankie montage that Houston. Do you believe? He well. Houston's a terrible matchup from. I can't use them for this one in our games context. But I like the arm, and I've that's one I've taken a flier in any of the league's defend deep enough to support it because Montas did introduce that splitter during spring training. And it looks pretty good. At least the brief times. I've been able to see it. It looks like there might be something there. Saturday on the ESPN pluses something there in Detroit as Matt Moore hosts Jorges Lopez. More goes into the Jordan Zimmermann pile for me. I know it was a good outing. I don't care. I win. Rely care will be three or four outings, maybe and then it might be too late to Adam. I'm okay with that. I just can't imagine. I mean, nothing change Jordan's into the per he just pitch. Well, I just I'm not buying. I'm streamers. That's it streamers and even more Zimmerman. I actually think this could become interesting. I took them in a deep league in the draft reasonably. I don't think you're giving Zimmerman enough credit as streamer he did show times last year where he did have that utility. I a lengthy debate with somebody on a super deep league last year. It was either June or July about is Jordan Zimmermann more even the discussion. And I think he's worth the discussion as streaming pitcher. Okay. I'm willing to MIT that I met him wrong every day. But I think there's nothing more there. You're I think you're correct in that, you know, this is not a guy to invest in. I mean, like, Chris paddock. I mean, come on you want. Chris paddock. Mike Panetta Philly. No phillies. Offense is still scoring seven runs a game. There may be giving it up. I don't know tempted Pineda why live arm. I don't think he's going deep enough in this game to matter for our game. But I think there is something there for him. And if you're in an if only he's in for me. Oh, only I'm in sure a mixed. I'm not there yet. What is the twin star playing Williams house DO between catcher and third base and D H like literally five days a week. He's a top ten catcher. Yes. Absolutely. But let's be clear he might Beth three hundred. But like this is not a power guy. He doesn't walk or strikeout, but like twelve home runs and four hundred right? That's fair. I think you'll be three hundred three oh five three ten for his final. I'm joking when ours does have more power than that. But I don't want people that get carried away with just what he is. I've seen a couple of people tweeted a say, thanks for the DO pickup. He's a very good catcher. Because he's not going to hurt you not because he is great. His contact ability is what drives his fantasy value. But it's not a lot of poppy playing every day. I'm with you. It was twelve for the homeland projection. Yeah, that's fair. If he plays. We're like starting to regard Austin Barnes as a potential top ten catchers hit. Well, so for the back end of the top ten is missing to names. Awesome Barnes and NASA. The of could be top ten catches by this time next week. Yes. Yes, they certainly could based on the lack of depth of the position more there with us who else willing to steal Robinson Torino's knows. Why not take Danny Janssen looks terrible. Why not take a chance? I want these other guys. Sure watch. I bet on Monday. We're talking Walker. Bueller? Having a tough outing cores first outing something's wrong. I love it. And he didn't even know I was gonna say his name, and nobody where that comes from notes from a movie I've ever seen said move. But I. No. You mentioned bueller earlier, and I was gun shy. But. I ride Sunday baseball and his PIN Julio or s and Chad bed is to bed as dodger sitting a lot of home runs. You gotta pick up jock Petersen bees hitting although any better than last year's version. But we notice it when it's good first week. That's thanks a lot for rub it in about me. Having jock Petersen sitting for the first week of my vampire league match on. The cost. Why would you have sat him? I don't even have any bench hitters him because I know. Yeah. Because on the day that we it was the right decision that day we made it because there, and you, and I even talked about this that it looked like Alex do go was going to steal some starts against righties. I didn't think he was still Peterson. I pretty sure that. I don't think I have either them where we oppose could actually we could actually win week one in the vampire guy playing. No, you're jingling in knocking winning sing. Look, I think it's a lot of fun actually like I have terrible team. And the offense is done nothing except still base. Batting two one this week. The other guys betting one nine eight. Now, look we still got four days games to go. I thought I could steal some pitching categories not saves per se Sergio Romo, but he could get a saver to this weekend. But my starting pitching is doing okay, and I can smell Jose Ramirez being stolen from that guy's team. Win for the vampire would be so huge to get a staple player on your get-go. Who I could get if I win this one you take ax shirt, sir. That's who I'm playing. I mean, I'm getting lucky. I mean, let's face it. I'm getting lucky. The guy has Corey kluber. I'm not gonna steal kluber. I think he has kluber. I would still Ramirez, but we'll talk about it on Monday. And I already got for new Netease and like three hitters so my offense better after we lose. We'll talk about. Care, if I lose fun fun either way, you know, what else is fun answering your tweets after this. We'll have Kyle read your tweets they're called hash Browns, and we answer them. And now I found from Geico motorcycle took fifteen minutes to click on the banner ad entitled, you won't believe what these child stars look like now be dissatisfied and kind of said about how the child stars look. And now your computer is played by pup ads. Can't be to insult to injury. You could've used those teen. Click made minutes to switch your motorcycle insurance to gyco. Geigo fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more on motorcycle insurance. That's okay. I know he said we're gonna do has Browns there. But it's our show. We can do what we want so Tristan who had the com- you'll since since I guess Monday since Monday, I want you want you to say the name, I want you to say the name, sir. Okay. Well, happily Brett Gardner had a combo meal. And I'm really proud of. Thank you Brett Gardner for having a combo meal. It's the only combo meal. I don't know. Hold on. Let me I'll have to check my research. What else? There's a Dell tone does into singer Adele, yes, Adele had a combo meal on on Tuesday. Yup. Yup. That's that's my story. And I'm sticking to it. And then he Albee's, of course yesterday. All right. The sixteen year old producers Dale with not first Buehler's. Singer. Yeah. I don't have a drop for that one. So we're just gonna pass and move on to see. That was an inside the park through. He is so much fun. Just in the triples the inside the park home runs. The forty steals is going to get I think he's batting to over two fifty two. I do I I think this is the top player for sure. But I think it might be better, nausea, Albee's is better. Now. Yeah. That's that's not a big stretch. To me, though. I think that average still though he's he's still doing the plate discipline things. He did last year. So let's not get ahead of ourselves here. The still Neria walk give you that. All right. And I don't know when the first walk is coming. We're not going to get a myriad Walker of walks your but over under on Monte walks like seventeen. That's good projection there. I think he'll get over that. But I don't think it's going to be much. And he's going to bet like seven hundred times, he don't have oversight. He and wit are going about seven hundred times and like wits going to have like seventy of the ninety walks between. Anyway, that's enough of that. Now the music for has Browns. Okay. From other. That's what it is. Not as we sounds, right. I'll stay. To the rain. I love that one. What is that? It's my favorite Adele song. Who is doubt? Oh, yeah. The column, you don't know. Adel Adel is high quality. You've got to listen. All right. Well, I listen to zeppelin the stones. I don't I don't really know anything in the last twenty years. Sorry. Oh, boy, Adele, one exception for of modern music. Yeah. So Kyle Led Zeppelin was a band in the late sixties early seventies. That had some great music stare heaven rock in old days and confused. Yeah. Pruitt and the kid in the Christmas story got for Christmas. And it's made it a lead it'll sync really quickly. He's never seen that become Aznar's. All right. This probably in questions right there. Many questions some came on Twitter about baseball those questions in my head about what's going on right now. David wants to know if you should hang in there with Mike Zeno or move onto the waiver wire for something better. What did you think magazine Nina was gonna do? Kind of like semi series. Let's think he was gonna hit three hundred and the first week. He is what he is. And he is is a guy doesn't forever JR. Sorry. Mike Xenos gonna hit twenty runs and bad two hundred. And that's probably about it. Thank you might hit more homers. That's yeah. He's gonna be streaky. He might hit more homers than that. But I think your average is not unfair at all for projection, and you had to know that when you took him if you wanted safety a catcher take us to the we talked about a couple of minutes ago. He's he's a legitimate three hundred capable hitter. Right. And I think the batting average difference is enough to overcome the homerun difference. I personally I did not have any players in any drafts. Where batting average matter where they could kill me. I have no shares Joey Gallo. I definitely I'm those shares Nino. I just I don't want. Anyone is Chris Davis. And the Orioles I feel kinda bad. That's this is getting out of hand with him. He doesn't have a hidden. His last thirty like I Chris Davis Lennox is. Okay. That's two forty seven every year. Although to see I wrote in. So you read that. Yeah. I saw that was really bold. They were asking for bold predictions. What is boulder Chris Davis has literally to forty seven four consecutive years older than saying he won't do that gave him fifty fifty two bombs through if I remember correct that's strong. And I've actually what's more impressive. Really, christen. Yeah. Is that he's up total five consecutive seasons. That's hard to do. What was the grade of wing? You were judged on that one. And I was judged to have the weakest take of all the people that second or third behind you. I'll tell you this. I was very proud to be tabbed the garlic parmesan, which is one of my favorite and most underrated of the wing types. So it wasn't a bolt. I actually, and I also said Oakland will lead the majors home runs. I thought that was pretty bold too. But I was judged to be unbolted. You know, there's really nothing good that can come out of being bold. I've noticed. Do not do not draft article nothing. Good comes from that. Nobody ever sees the positive of the plant your flag players. They never remember that. I said oh this Christian. Nobody remembers. I said crystal Walker twenty five home runs all the remembers what I said about yelich and hater and they both wrong. I'll care I'm gonna give you three catches to bring back to this thing to give me a yes. No. As to whether you're adding them for him three types. All right Francisco survey, Mr. safety. Yes, I see a kinder Felisa. Time ever playing qualifies. Yeah. You know, look, I'm not gonna rushers in e-e-e-e-no. But I wouldn't go get kind of life over. Okay, and Francisco Mahia, the upside definitely definitely I haven't here shares everywhere. And I could has you know, even cheaper in one league in an auction. I still went when he's not playing that much. But I think it will. I'm going to be patient. I don't care if he plays like twice a week in in April and going to be patient. He's good not playing right now. More than two Nino's that's out of sight. Absolutely. That's why pick those because I think of the of the safety or giving the upside in limited time. You know, what else I love? I love the Dollar Shave Club has everything I need to look feel and smell my best. What I love even more is the fact that I never have to go to a store because DSE delivers everything I need right to my door and to keep me. Fully stocked. What I use? So I don't run out. Here's how it works. Dollar Shave Club has everything you need to get ready. No matter what you're getting ready for. 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But Saturday spread wants to know if he's a fishery done can we call it a career for Mr. Cabrera? I thought it was funny. Somebody maybe this guy tweeted it out and somebody else answered the tweet saying Eric's going to say be more patient, and that guy was right? It's. He does look bad. There's Mary extra-base in use that twice in the show. But I'm gonna get away with. I bet he could Homer today or tomorrow. Like, I I'm I'm not worried yet. I wanna see what do I need to see three weeks? I guess three weeks. What I need to say. Would you drop Cabrera for Christian Walker right now? I would not I try to find another way to get walk around the roster. I think Cabrera the issue I have here with bailing after not even a week yet. I mean, well, let's see. Yeah. We'll be at a week. Once we get to one pm today stern is that he has one of the best contact qualities at least from last year. Despite the fact that he had all those injuries. And so far this year when he has made contact it's still a pretty decent quality. Yeah. I'm going to be a little bit more patient. So all right wrong with her mentioned through. Okay, Andrew Nossa. David pearls. Got four straight multi hit games and pita. Lonzo. Also looks good in the early going you buying long-term for either or both. So Peralta Alonzo, right? Yep. I think we know who he is. We saw last season. I don't care about is. I six or seven games Alonzo doing exactly right thing. They Batum second. He looks terrific powers. Legit. He might use a lot of batting average. I think he ends up to fifty but Dominic Smith is the backup first baseman and pitcher, and I don't see Dominic Smith playing that much more than like once or twice a week against tough, ROY Hanner. I would do that. Like if they're sherzer play Dominic Smith. I'm cool today. I bet so better numbers of season. Pita Lonzo or Christian Walker? I'm going to say Alonzo I into Pete Alonzo Cabrera. I think I'm sticking with Cabrera still that's close. Put debates between any of the three of them. The issue with Lonzo is that he still not showing much difference from what I would have projected that is that he's gonna have a lot of ks. The batting average variable swinging a lot of non strikes the swing out of zone rate is thirty six percent of your getting near forty. That's a pretty bad number swinging strike rates fourteen percent. This guy's got a lot of swing and missing his game. So the role is kind of driving value so far I'm not I'm not there yet on him being a star. I think in dynasty leagues. Of course. That's obvious to me. But I'm not upgrading significantly Peralta. You said it best. I just don't think anything's changed formats invest in first baseman that much. I mean, if I end up with Goldman somehow I love him, but a young first baseman. I'd much rather have a middle infielder or announcer who runs I avoid catchers. I avoid catchers first baseman relief pitchers dynasty, formats. What's the best pita Lonzo can do to to sixty three? Thirty home runs. Like, I just don't think. Well, yeah. Like, what's his what's the ceiling? I feel like ceiling is just okay. Like forty runs. I mean, what what what do you think is the best that Alonzo? Could do I think it's that. I think it's sixty and forty but shooting for the moon, and we're talking down the road. I don't think that's happening this year. I worry that he. He's like two thirty hitter this year, which makes him really kind of averaged innoc- selection. We'll special about that. You see the thing is first base is not a star-studded used to be in the past. So if you find it important to fill that position on your Dennis de roster than he does great very well compared to the other players at his position. The problem is that reaching that high ceiling is not going to give you the value that those studs from the past McGill in is prime and Joey Votto in his prime and polls in his prime. They were fantasy stars. Well, that's my point. So I really do. But like, what's so special? Statistically, look, if you're an ano only, of course, if you're in a twenty mix, of course, but if you attend team standard points league, I like data Lonzo, I think will help you. But I take him over yonder Lonzo. But like, what are you really expecting here? That's really gonna like turn the needle. I just I'm not there yet. I would take Peralta. Everybody. Well, I can see the case otherwise, but I'm with you in every other circumstance. All right. That's next. Nary a hit for Winker this season. Spencer wants to know if you're punting on them or you stain saying in there on the sleeper height. Are now. Now, you're abusing the word. I'm trying using. Ever Senate from so good. Trista you seen the two outfields what they're hitting the season nothing. Yeah. We hard to do. Yeah. They find Cincinnati. Finally got a hit from an Alfred or other than pre Matt camp late yesterday a pinch hit or something Winker off to a terrible start. But I don't care like I would wake her. Well, we projected for Winker has not changed unless they don't play them, which is possible. But like if we had a hitless week in June. Nobody would notice why are you noticing in the first week of April? Not. I'm not changing a thing on Jesse Winker. So it surprised me about that Cleveland? We knew that outfield wasn't going to be very good. That was going to great one of the worst Cincinnati is a loaded outfield. And there's a lot of a lot of players there. It'll be fine. There is an elite talent in their the reason I think people are panicking Winker, which is valid is that Scott Scott shetler was leadoff, man. In two of the five games and Winker didn't play those and they were against righties, which is the role that Winker was supposed to occupy everyday leadoff man against right handed pitchers. Didn't happen. That's it. That's the only thing that earns me that concerns me too before we know yet a bellyache that day. I don't know why that didn't happen. But shetler doesn't have any hits either. Right. Right. Right. Right. But I think in that outfield with that competition if one of them gets hot, and it happens before Winker does it's going to be playing time issue. Oh, yeah. Yeah. No. That's and look if they're not hitting by June scooter place second and for us. Plays left like they they make changes here and sends L center like they'll just bench them all the bells the first year manager, I would think he'd want to build around Winker a little bit here. I just think it's a little too early to to pack. What's what's next one more here? And if it's too early to panic on those guys is too early crown Adam Jones, a hall of Famer Mark wants to know, if he's strong starts indicative of what we can expect the rest of the one. Hall of Famer. Oh, yeah. Yeah. He's sure hasn't really nice guy grit kata interview. I like Adam Jones, he's at three solo home run so four and three doubles, no walks. I don't think there's anything different here than there was last year. Like, he's probably going to play every single like he's going to get one hundred forty five games six hundred plate appearances and hit eighteen home runs and still find basis and bat to eighty he always eighty to seventy eight hitter. So to eighty with eighteen home, runs, seventy two RBI and five steals. That's not a top fifty outfielder. I'm sorry. I'm not changing. My the only reason I'm changing my. Initial take on Adam Jones's because Stephen Souza's out for the year, and they don't have a replacement. So Adam Jones is going to get six hundred plate appearances. If you've got only good for you eighteen homers, seventy two ribs and five steals. Two. Eighty is good. You know, like what Nick Marquette's does every year is really good, and and only in a standard mixed. No. And in a standard and the standard in a point sleep, which is the standard. Now, he doesn't walk at all people. He has averaged like thirty walks year for his career. He drawn walks. In fact, it's exactly that only. Twenty four walks twenty-seven walk. So like in a points league. He does not help you as much as you think. Yeah. In a row league e also doesn't overrated points league player. Yeah. He's a very good and very consistent player. He's in a ballpark. That's still fairly hitting friendly probably comparable to Baltimore, even with the humid or there, and that's a good situation. And you kind feel into based on where he was drafted after the Susan's situation. But I agree with you on all counts here with with the Jones, I think he's not a star anymore. And as a matter of fact, if we're gonna go small sample circus authority this he seventh out of one hundred ninety qualifiers in strike zone rate, which means pitches in the strikes the rule book strike zone. That means the poring over the plate him. So that does partially explain how he's doing. So well, why would you ever to him? I don't get it. I don't know. It's a small sample. You could have just fallen into having thrown a pitch in the wrong spot. I mean, it could be like Moncada homering off Cleveland's bullpen other than Brad hand. Like, I don't want. It's a week. I'm not ready to say, Adam Jones's awesome. You'll is awesome. I can't do that yet. I mean, if you look at the top of the player Reiter, obviously this pitchers on their Jin Ryu who's look good marker Gonzalez's, look good. David hessel. You kidding me? No. But I think there's a difference between Moncada Jones, I think we'd both agree on that. In value. There might not be I think people just want to love Moncada so much because he's young and and can be fired category. Play. You can't be five category player can't forever JR. And I'm not I'm not ready to say he will this year. Gimme the updated batting average project for your Moncada. Is it over to fifty? Probably not. But I am moving closer to it. That's okay. I'm not changing the Adam Jones projection for batting average one point on not doing it Moncada. I'm a little more tempted to do so because first of all these young heading heading towards the prime years of his career ender are hints that maybe he has improved something. But I mean, we're talking couple points. Yeah, you're right and Moncada has seen dealers day off. That's another thing working in his favorite way. It's rising. As we go here. It's not hard to see either Kyle come on. It's on about a thousand times a day on TV. You don't even watch TV. Do. I see sports if it's not like on a commercial break that I miss it. Even that I don't really pay attention to the commercials. So I gotta missed it TV's based on ESPN all the time. I have like three channels, and that's one of them. Yeah. He's a company, man. Yes is there's a drop to that somewhere. Yes. I'm getting the hang of this show. You're the best produce that. We've ever had that the only one who wants to. Thank you so much listening to fantasy focus baseball. We really do. Appreciate I think the three of us. Do appreciate those who listen to our show. And I think we'll be with you all season long. It'll probably be this threesome, I don't know what happens sort trista to produce. But anyway, thank you listening. We will be back on Monday. The three of us talk baseball. Hopefully, no major injuries. We hate the major injuries a traitor thing that that hurts. I right away. I was like where do I knew I had him on a non ESPN team where I could pick up somebody pretty easily but like a head to head league. I didn't plan for other guys on my team stealing basis. So I picked up kettle morte, but I can lose steals every week. So it could be a problem. So hopefully, no injuries, but maybe holy orients the topic on Monday, certainly with a closer carousel and every show from now on so thank you to Kyle. Thank you tryst in. I am. Eric have an awesome weekend. Everything is. Dr.

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Babes On Broad #26: Decisions, Decisions

Bleeding Green Nation

36:30 min | 5 months ago

Babes On Broad #26: Decisions, Decisions

"Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred and sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with Justin clue and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin and Laze Rozier. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP. Welcome to your favorite sports bra hosted Jesse Town and same well. They're smart sexy and they're all thanks Rick Unity and we hope you enjoyed welcome into episode. Twenty six of Babes on Broadway. I am saying Wilson with my co host Jesse Town. We are the bans on broad brought to you by estimation of leading green nation. If you follow us on social media on INSTAGRAM TWITTER. Facebook at based on broad. Pretty easy as for me. I am at Sam Wills Eighteen on instagram twitter and then justice at Romney's town with an S. thirteen on twitter and Jessica underscore town with an e. on instagram And if you WANNA wrap US design tree dot com slash Babes on broad. So that's easy again and then you can rep us. We have a new shirt out. I just got it today. I am so excited to go. Pick it up supernatural room so you have to go check that out purchase at maybe purchasing more. You never know unit adver no yes so last week we did some more SANGO. So forget time. We did quarterbacks running backs than we do receivers and corners last week. Now we're GONNA do tight ends in linebackers today. Yeah so we'll we'll start with linebackers because that's where the biggest news has been. The Eagles Cut Najib Radom earlier. This week which I think we have all seen coming. He's been hurt the last couple of years older. Yup getting older and they owed go him eight million dollars this year so they think they say four and a half in caps by cutting him. I mean they could also be doing something similar to what they did with Tim. Jernigan last year they cut him and then re signed him in Free Agency for just a cheaper deal but additionally from Nigel Brad. They also have another free agent in comma grew Jay Hill. Obviously so they cut neither batum so stay or go is really not applicable there. Yeah Kamu what do you think they are? Go do you. Well let me ask you this question. There's kind of two separate questions here. Do you think they will keep? They will resign him or let him walk or end. The second part of that question is do you think they should keep him or do you think they should let him walk because what you think they should do? And what they you think they will do is to possibly two different things. It is slightly so I think that they should depending on his price. Because I'm not sure how much you would get this year because of his injury history. So that's my thing. I think that they would be able to maybe get him at a cheaper price because of his injury history He is only twenty six years old so I think he has time to bounce back so if they're able to get him for a cheaper price than so that I think he won't be upper-echelon kind of now now because of his injury history that would also he's just not he's not like a premier linebacker kind of like like really like though he was ours in yeah but before he was injured. I feel like he was a pretty big name. Like Hicks. Kind of he has a very similar style to Jordan. Heck's but I don't think he was at like his production wasn't it wasn't as valuable own league known. He's not he's I don't think he's a huge name around the league but I think he was underrated for what he was contributing in Philadelphia accent. So I just saw differently because which Okay all right so we can get him cheap. I think he should stay I am not really sure what the Eagles will do fair so I would love for them to keep him here because I think they can keep him at a reasonable price. And we've talked about over and over again. The Eagles don't value linebackers. Not going into. Who is a free agent this year in the of the guys? They have still nate Gary Tj Edwards. And they really liked Duke Riley as. Well I mean they still do have those guys and maybe take a you know they still have Alex Singleton. Doron make it out of camp went undrafted. Yeah something like that if they if that's really what what they. WanNa do again they never have. They haven't valued linebacker in fifteen years. They're not going to start now I think comedy would be someone that. It's a good value that you could get a really good price. But I don't know if if they're going to do that but if it were me I would want to keep him around especially in a guy who's been your special teams captain last two years. I just I just think that you know. He's also a Locker Room. Guy Is while he does something but that's also the fact that he was a special teams guy they do have that now. Do Briley So now you're that kind of makes me think like. Are they see him? You know I mean they really like do Riley they do. I know I've seen that but interesting mine I do. Obviously I like Edwards Gary and Riley in their here don't expect them to go anywhere in a trade or anything So my there are a lot of like actual good linebackers. Aller are free agent market. I have my top four but I think the most realistic in their best option is Blake Martinez from Green Bay. I really liked. I remember. Previewing him when we went into Green Bay and I like him. He last year only made two million dollars in saying only. But that's pretty good for that. Wish I could make two million. But that he's the cheapest one besides Jon Bostick for Washington but he's twenty nine. Blake's only twenty six so I like that Obviously he probably make a little bit more than not coming here because he just came off a really good season but I like him the best Blake Martinez observation from Chicago's also free agent. But he's expensive and he's old. He's twenty nine his five point. Eight million how Jamie Collins? I don't know if he's he's a free agent and member. He was the they they had the option of Jamie Collins or ZAC Brown and they pick background. Jamie Collins had like a career year in wing. He's thirty thirty one halfway through the season. None of the I know does that. Say how much you made last year? Either way my top is Blake Martinez. I would love if we could get him in an afford. I think like Martinez would fit really well me too. I think that would be a really interesting. I would be excited really interesting. I would be very excited Now would also show that. The Eagles are actually putting a little bit of value in that position. Where somewhere that they haven't but at the same time there is talk that they might be looking to draft a linebacker. I don't know much about the linebackers. Come in this draft yet. But I've heard that knowing them in studying them I don't see them using an actual draft pick on linebacker unless it would be later. That's what I'm saying so it will be late. That's why I would rather have Lake Martinez. Because they're not going to use one of their higher ones and they shouldn't 'cause they need to receive those picks in Sandra percent so that's why in my mind doesn't really make sense. The argument of how loaded this linebacker class is because we would get them until you know what I mean Kaz. Yeah and I also think that as interesting as it is to say you do have a little bit more of a veteran presence in Nate Gary. He's your veteran of the year and then TJ Edwards going into a second year. He did some really good things. I assure people were shot that he went undrafted. I was shocked that he went after it. And then you know do Briley from Wisconsin and he had a phenomenal Last year before the draft I couldn't believe that they ended up with him and I knew they would. They were going to keep him no matter what they were. GonNa make sure. There's you offer him because they didn't WanNA lose him through that. Because it was it was shocking. He made it assumed that made it through without being drafted you know. He's still young but I do think they need another kind of veteran presence and whether that is resigning Kamo or signing somebody like Blake Martinez. I think I think you you sign one and snag one in a late round or undrafted and I think you're Kinda set there. I would definitely. I think I would prefer Martinez over. Komo interesting. Yeah I do like like Martinez and I think that's not what I thought about much that I like. I like that. I like that a lot and then the second position that we were going to kind of tackle today no pun intended on. That was. Thank you very funny. Sometimes off guard with that is tight end so the obviously And they have Dallas Gutter really. The the conversation goes to WHO that third tight end is going to be. You Know Josh Perkins is technically a tight end. Aquino's Phil keep him on the roster. What they'll do with him necessarily but the the other free agent is Richard Rodgers. And they kept him on. You know back to back one year deals now and neither of them have panned out. He really hasn't played at all or benefactor even remotely some some interesting names of tight ends. That are free agents Vance McDonald. Who would be an interesting third option because he is? I think he started a little bit older. Eric Iran Jason Witten. Who has said he is willing to. He wants to play twenty twenty willing to play for other teams. Ll just so 'cause no one wants him in the broadcast booth. Tyler I for Mercedes Lewis. Charles Clay Hunter Henry. Luke Wilson. Austin Hooper Awesome. Guys that are free agents. What are you stay or go for Richard Rodgers? And what do you think what would you do there if you were in control of the Eagle Sam I mean. I don't think that this is really like A. We need a third tight end because we have two of one of the best in league and then one of the best. I've been coming in the league. You know what I mean so. I don't think it's really that important so I think if Rogers fits their salary where they need to have so that they can spend money somewhere else. Shirley go ahead. Whatever that's the only reason I would see them keeping him as if he lowers price. Which is like yeah. I'll take whatever just having on the team but what I would want is to get. I have three people. I Have Hunter Henry. J. Collier third in Tyler effort and my reasoning so hunter Henry. He was supposed to be great when he came out a draft and everything and then injuries just any time that he was injured and had played all season and Stephen a Smith was like he's been unproductive this season he is not performed up to par. And you're like that's because he hasn't played a snap man Steven but one of my favorite things that's ever happened in the NFL anyway. Could Yeah I think though that there good options because so hunter Henry and I are both to that. Were like big names in everything but they were both injury prone so I think that's where they kind of fit here because Henry's twenty-five efforts twenty nine. They both made one million last year and then I I might be due for more though. Because he didn't get injured last year she had a good season. But my thing is sincere. Injury prone coming here would be good because with the two stars in front of you you would not have to play as much which would be good for their bodies in their injury. History is my yeah so I I. I mean he's probably do for more but he is twenty nine. So maybe that will bounce price. I would probably do Hunter Henry. I think he's a good option for that long tail and then another option is J. Hollister but he's probably from Seattle. Probably the least realistic out of all them. He's twenty six and he only made six hundred and fifty six point five thousands on his rookie deal. No it was because he was unproductive out of New England. No New England got rid of him after that but then last year being in Seattle had a really good year so they're projecting that he's GonNa make a lot more than that so that's why he's kind of unrealistic. It depends where you could get him out but mine out of them. I think Hunter Henry will be the best third option. Hundred Handy will be a great option especially if someone else did get hurt. Knock on wood but you make an interesting point with hollister there. Especially because he's a free agent. But also Luke Wilson as a free agent. So if they're looking for another guy similar to fill that Richard Rodgers role that they had thought. Richard Rogers or where Brent. Celik was kind of in his his last year of veteran. Who can jump in there when you know be reliable for a couple of catches here and there when you need them to kneel can block when you need him too? I think Luke Wilson might be an interesting idea it just it depends what they're looking for from that third tight end spangler. It depends what they're prioritizing. No though if you would really need a leader you know what I'm saying. Could Zakar best friends with the quarterback yesterday dominant? I feel like he is that leader. Yeah I think he was a guy that fits in his friendly his of Yeah yes you there when you need them because he's not going to get many snaps and that's why I think he's injury prone guys that will be cheaper because of their injury. History are good options. Just because so do you think of so. Do you think they should go free agent or do you think they should draft a tight end later? Round I would prefer free agent just because I think there are other spots that we stack up in the draft so if you can get a cheap free agent like Hunter Henry then I got smart. Yeah I think my opinion for some of these positions. That aren't necessarily a a need like tight end. It's not it's not a it's not a week position now right so it's you know one of those where if you can get someone vet men great if not take one of the draft. Build them up a little bit in you know yet late in the draft. Yes but I would prefer if it's possible just to get whatever free or not free cheap fly would love if you ever a free that on a per cent. I'll play for free. She says Sam almost but she didn't she got together but Yeah but so I would prefer cheap free agent. Thanks so that in the draft. You could just stack up. I mean obviously you need draft seventeen receivers yes literally receivers have wanted to stack up early. Worn out Howie. Somebody who pan out we hope are so that is our stay in Goa conversation for today. We're GONNA take a quick break when we come back. We'll talk about the flyers and what they're doing the sixers and what they are doing and the phillies in what they're doing because they're not do what they're not doing because there for spring training game Saturday. Yeah love it against the Tigers baby all right so we're gonNA take a quick break when we come back we'll talk about all those other teams in Philly also talk about some of the bold predictions that we were given throughout our social media. This week. You are listening to the Babes on broad on. Bgn Radio Baseball truly. It is awful. I'm phillies writer. Justin clue join me every week. Along with John Stolnis Liz Rozier and Dr Trevor Strunk. As we discussed all the ways the phillies of us when our podcast hitting season as well as historical anecdotes and rar emotional ramblings on our other shows continued success and the dirty innings subscribed to the good fight and you'll get conversations with insiders analysis of breaking news and stats stats stats together. We'll survive whatever baseball can throw at us. Hi I'm Jesse. David Fox senior editor vulture and host of the podcast. Good one a podcast about jokes. Every week I interview comedian writer performer. About one of their jokes the joke income from their standup special Saturday night live sketch or song or even book re Breakdown. The joke and figure out how it works. What inspired it and what it says about their sense of humor for comedy fans. It's a serious discussion about the craft of jokes and for interview fans. It's really funny. Conversation between two people who have a lot to say about comedy performances sect advice. Podcast might not be exactly what you're looking for for made something to talk about after all that sex. Your habit. New episodes of good one come on every Tuesday. Starting February. Twenty fifth. Subscribe for free on Apple podcasts. Or in your favorite podcast APP from vulture in the Vox Media. Podcast network have a good one Welcome back to based on broad episode twenty six. Now are we tell you about the rest of Philadelphia? So we have the flyers back in action. So you'll hear this will later. So they would've had played Columbus twice this week. Their first game they beat on five to one which put them up now their third in the Metro Division Loa. That's currently right now. So it'll switch by the time they year they're silly to move up. It's three o'clock on Thursday afternoon. Currently so the flyers they played tonight so we'll eighty Ombu in Columbus so we'll see where they are after that game how they do their another team that they're great at home on the road classic Philly issue and especially because it's so hard to beat a team especially in the same week back to back and you kill them the first time five to one so they'll be coming out with a vengeance on their home ice so that'll be tough. Yes Sir the the division and it's a tight race because then there's a three way tie in fourth place between the hurricanes islanders and blue jackets which is Columbus who they played tonight so they need this win. Hopefully they get this win by the time you guys here. I'm excited. The sixers are also back tonight. They have some interesting games coming up after the All star break. The All Star game was fun. I liked the new format. I'm a fan of that. It made it very competitive. I watched the highlights So the All Star Games always valentines weekend because Joe and I were long distance in college. We were always doing visit valentines weekend so it became a tradition that we it was like valentines weekend. We would do our dinners and stuff like we also always watched the all-star stuff together. That's kids so that's something. We have continued so we watch the All Star game. See that's my thoughts on it. Unlike the best dunk on twitter. You know that's fair. Yeah what the game. The fourth quarter was it went really long because there was no clock and I agree with Joel embiid. It should not be able to end on a free throw but that was still pretty fun to watch. It was enjoyable. It was competitive and it was exciting watching the watching. Joel Dream. Shake Lebron Made my entire weekend complete if he was phenomenal. Vanja Posted while they both at twenty nine points. Yeah they both play really well and you know band pulled played the most minutes. Did he really? Did you know that I did not he should have? They were like a wall in his teams are on his own. Okay that yes because Janas played like thirty one but like there weren't many more people know Ben played ally. It's because like I forget what it was at one point. They took Ben out. Ben Played and team was a minus seven and then they took Lebron took Banal and Team honest went on a stretch where it was like plus twelve and I was like defensive player of the year I mean what else can you say But they are they have nine relatively difficult games. Coming up there are some. There's I mean they play the next there. They play the cavs and they're they're beatable teams. It's just there on the road. They play six of nine on the road and the road trip is ideal so they play at home tonight against the nets. Then they play at Milwaukee which is GONNA be a tough game. That's going to be a tough game Saturday night. Here's hoping I'll have my snacks. I'll be horizontal my county Derek. Those games though. Everybody's expecting them not to win which they're pretty good at. I'm expecting them to win. I expect them to win. In every game boy. Yeah you're different. I am different. You're like trae how he's like. Yeah phillies going one sixty two. No I firmly believe that as well I support that wholeheartedly. Set How many games one forty now. One sixty two. It's a law. Same important to maybe. That's myrlie one. Sixty two 'cause they went eighty-one eighty-one lush. Oh you're at your but so so. The six games on the road is Milwaukee. Then they play Cleveland in Cleveland. And they're an absolute dumpster fire but they have a west coast road trip that they play in the staple center against the clippers. Then against the Lakers than they go up to Sacramento and play the kings and then they play the warriors. Now obviously. The warriors are also a dumpster fire. And just absolute garbage but Clippers Lakers and kings all way. Those are three very very tough games. Those are tough games. I actually when they've already gotten good. Wins over both teams. Oh yeah it's so hard to way. They beat them do. Yeah so that'll be interesting again. So I think I don't think they lose both games against the clippers. The Lakers I think they definitely can win. One of those I think they can either. I firmly believe they're capable of doing it. It's a matter of if they if they did remember headline basketball. They do win. Want I would say it'd be against the Lakers. But I don't think Lebron will let that happen. I don't think he's shaking the crap out of gas Joe Als. Environ- bent frustrates him sick. So yeah it'll be interesting to see if they have like twenty twenty five games left or something so if they can the way seven sorry twenty seven yes exactly one third of the season they need to win twenty of those games at at minimal because right now currently in fifth and they need they need homecourt Nara game and a half behind Miami. That's the closest in the Celtics. Four Games ahead of them in Thir- Gotcha so that's kind of the where those teams continue but the phillies the phillies start on Saturday. Action very burst spring training able Saturday with Nick. Prevent a starting. Yikes which everybody is like kind of like how but Joe Girardi said that. Joe Girardi said that Him in Velazquez were kind of fighting for that last spot in the rotation so Make sense that he'll have both weight that makes sense Zach F. One considered a Or is it the three of the fighting in the last two spots? No one of them. Maybe to Alaska's has spot in Nevada in affluent our fight. I don't remember now because it's so easy thing Nola Wheeler area and then the last two are still up in your. Maybe but I would say they probably have Alaska's in the forest spot and then between offline and Panetta that would make the most sense to me. Yeah but either way Nevada is like his big question marks that he has him starting. Yeah and then. Nola gets the home start. Though the clearwater home spectrum field start on Sunday love an Velazquez gets Monday. Got It the biggest news with the phillies today. That real that just came out before we started recording J. T. Rowe Mutola lost his arbitration case. The phillies won only so. He's only making ten mil this year instead of the twelve point which his ten million is silly high as for an arbitration eligible catcher. So he's does still set a record because of what he's gotten but at the same time it's still just frustrating because you're like phillies you cheap. Mojos just get a long-term yield on keep them here ever. I know enough catcher in baseball. And that's probably the most annoying part about all of this is the fact that jt has said he doesn't want to negotiate during the season and he wants to get the deal done in. Philly he wants to be in Philly but the phillies have wasted all this time for the stupid two million dollars when they have just been talking jt in his agent before the season started. Got a long term deal done. Yes and it's just so stupid to me. The phillies business side of it is probably they wanted to set. President is I said that precedent Negga as president but so we are not going there. They wanted to set a precedent. There we go yes. There's better pronunciation there. So that's why they fought so hard to get him at only ten instead of twelve which long-term two million right now is not really that big of a difference. I feel but whatever phillies do whatever you have to do stupid people so they we put out a couple of polls this week in a couple of questions just about the phillies. Getting everybody excited for baseball one of our polls put out was which new face on the phillies. Were you most excited for We had one hundred ninety nine votes. Sixty four percent said Joe Girardi. Twenty one percent said Zack. Wheeler fifteen percent said Didi Gregorius. I would agree. I most excited for Girardi. I'm so excited about job. The next poll was. How do you expect the fills to perform this season? We got four hundred three votes on that one. Four percent said win one hundred plus Games. I pre- how many are positive. I appreciate it has titi twenty seven and a half percent said ninety to one hundred. Sixty percent said eighty to ninety and seventeen percent said. I don't care. I just want playoffs which I don't disagree with. I have them right now at the like eighty seven eighty nine range. It would not shock me if they did make it into like ninety ninety one I think they. That's if everything happens I need to be somewhere between eighty seven and ninety three. I think that's the range that they need to end up the is they're gonNA make the playoffs. Yes yeah I agree with that. I think realistically ninety one really pushing it. I think. Eighty seven's more realistic. Even though it sounds so stupid I feel like when we talk these numbers because it's really so close but we'll see we'll see we'll see. I really just hope that we don't have to listen to if we make the playoffs. Great if we don't we don't hear that again. I'M GONNA scream. Yeah I you can't. Baseball is not that no baseball especially why? Guess Baseball and Football Baseball Hall because it was so long season. You know if you're just kind of like yeah we don't even have a shot you're gonNA lose all your fan base and you're I Mike Gadjah at. Everything's just GonNa be a dumpster fire because such a long season you're not gonNa make any money and once once you get in anything can happen. Yeah member yeah remember when they said no one's beating the dodgers a one game playoff They went into went onto win. The world's earnings beating the dodgers in a in a seven game series. I'm sorry and they went onto win the world series like that's usually as the sign stealing cheating. Houston Astros I'm just sayin. I'm this is well anything's possible. I know I'm just saying usually the best team in baseball because they play there are other times. You also like you never know you could get hot at the right time will That's yeah you're right about that. Not The best at that time one. Yeah because that's the best thing about getting hot. They ended the season. Care that in so we also we also asked about bullet predictions and I said area is back to form and the first three in the rotation having said era of four less and so on responded was. That's just silly. It's a bullet prediction idiot. Yeah and what that means anyway. So here a couple. I thought some of these were interesting. Eighty seven wins missed the wild card. No deadline moves and that Clinton gets Another one hoskin turns it around in a huge way forty. Five home runs one hundred ten. Rbi's finishes in the top five of MVP voting a bold on ninety five wins. Nolan hoskins with big rebounds a surprising bullpen. That closes games. I don't know I do that. One on the thing the differences those like I don't think nola necessarily needs a rebound because he did start last year. Knowle's problem is he just has to learn how to finish. Yes so it's not like he has to play on September yet. It's not necessarily. He needs rebound urged. Ever he just needs to learn how to finish. Harper is the MVP. I don't hate that. Either that's possible. That's not crazy ready for this one. Nick Panetta Comeback Player of the year. Old should see Sam spatial and I feel the same way One hundred wins in a world series appearance. Bolt that is bald recess gains bryce Harper combined for a hundred homers. That's not that bowl. I think I take it. I think Greece askins is gonNA. I don't think he's going to be an MVP. But I think he's GonNa have definitely a good comeback year. I think he's GonNa All I want for reasons. I want him to have a consistent here. I want him to because he started off. I mean he hit a Grand Slam in the first game after in the in the opener I just want him to be consistent and consistently good like which he definitely has the ability to do last year he was off. They're messing with his swaying. They're doing everything so I think he definitely does have bounce back year phillies have three players receiving MVP votes Visit specify now just says three players that could happen. Maybe Foss Wheeler is talking about. He's going all in for trying to get a CY young. Hey You dad loves. I love the that that that drive. Maybe Nola you got a couple of options pitcher then you got bryce Harper's always an option to get MVP votes because it's the name Resource Hoskins if he has bounced back year coaches coming back. He's but Didi Gregorius. Now Ninety five wins Bryce. Harper's the runner up for MVP Bryce HARPER MVP with over forty five bombs. Bryce Harper will hit two ninety. Five forty five home runs in one hundred thirty rb is and last one. The phillies win the analyst over Ninety Games. I do not think the Phillies Win. The annelies your bold prediction. Do you will prevail My Bowl prediction. Oh no kind of real I feel like in all those. I kinda gave reasons why you did I try to. I try to be positive and I just you know I think Sony people I think just feel so like burned by the sixers right now. The Eagles this season and the phillies last season where their expectations were. And what actually happened or is happening. The people are hesitant have expectations and I think it's fine. I don't have expectations but I just I don't think there's some people that are so low on the phillies and they have so many issues and they think they're it's not possible for them to like. There's this team has some potential. No this team. Yeah the only thing that I we've said. Before that stresses me out is the their rotation the bullpen? So that's the only thing that gets me but I mean it's happened before where teams like two thousand eight team didn't have like a fantastic rotation or anything and then when they did the years following. They didn't win so like it's not like that's absolutely necessary but the fact that kind of new way of the game to have all cerebral pen in rotation and then you see what happens but I mean it's not impossible without rotation bullpen. But I think it's hard because of our division right the braves and the nationals our national Reigning World Series Champs. Braise one the the league last earn the League division last year. So yes it's tough. I think the braves got better. Success of it really. There's a lot of ifs that have to like. Go Right If Sarangani Dominguez's healthy if Wolfgang healthy if starting rotation can be successful if Ariana can come back to form if res Hoskins can take that step forward if Bryce Harper plays like himself if and that's the hardest part about baseball too is because it's such a long season like you have no clue what's going to happen is so hard it yes and but you know the big part of it. Is You know so. Many people are so reactionary that it's going to be the tenth game of one hundred sixty two game season. They may lose three in a row and people are GONNA cancel the United Media. They're going to completely quit on. You know it's not over until it's over no and that's just that's you know that's that's tonight is such a long season phillies weren't out of it last year until middle to end of September yet they went down to the end. I was it was pretty much down Dryer Celo but I you know it was the most excited I had been for Philly season in years. Old Ahead here on the Beetle. Mile won the world series. So yeah so I I just think that. They gave us some really exciting moments last year. And I think that there's there's no reason to completely right this team all no. I agree that it's being there. Just frustrating their front office in how they work in their lack of trust. I feel like in the same. But the team dig it better absolutely. Yeah yeah the. The team has improved. People just small things like jeans cigar losing a little bit of weight. You know. We don't know how far that's going to take him where that's GonNa translate how that's GonNa help like so we'll see it and I think you know a manager like Joe Girardi really does put them in the best position. I think a manager Joe Girardi is going to put every single one of these players in the absolute best position to succeed. I agree I like Girardi desimone lands. I'm excited so I'm excited for that game on Saturday. Is that one one of the ones that's on. I don't know man I'll have to check. I haven't looked at the TV scheduled. Assume the first home one with Nola starting on Sunday adult. Yeah most likely It's hard down there too because a lot of these Florida places don't have like the video technology Which is shocking because their spring training. But I don't remember Flake Lynn has it. That's the Tigers on Saturday. Remember I feel like they don't Sunday Sunday Monday. Tuesday Saturday march seventh Monday March ninth Tuesday March tenth Tuesday march seventeenth and old's birthday no and Wednesday march eighteen. Those are the OH and Thursday march nineteenth in March twenty first. Those are other point. Pirates on Sunday the phillies did. Oh really so that game will be on so I will be watching now. Laurie Watch ing. I don't know what Fan Sam's GonNa be a team of for that game. Who knows but that kind of conclusion episode for the day for the week? Thank you for listening to episode Twenty Six of Babes on broad. Thank you to be nation in bleeding green nation for hosting our podcast as always make sure you. Subscribe to the podcast. You give a five Star Review Five Star rating sorry written review that always trips me up and follow us on. All of our social media has end. Yeah make sure. Keep listening to the show. We'll have another one for your next week. Our last round of the stay in go will do what Lion Linemen? That's all that's left so that'll be an interesting conversation. We'll have that one next week. We'll talk about what we see from the phillies. What the sixers are doing on their road trip with the flyers doing where they are from Sam and myself Babes on broad on. Bgn radio go fills go sixers flyers. Go philly go philly like that goes. Hey there podcast pals. I'm John Stolnis. The host of the PHILLIES pod hidden season. One of the shows that make up the good fight podcast family from espy nation. Look the baseball. Season is one hundred sixty two games long. And there's no way you can watch all those games so make sure to check out my podcast twice a week for all the fills goodness. You could ever want and make sure to check out our other great podcasts including the award winning dirty inning with just inclu and Trevor strunk and continued success with Justin. Endless grocer subscribe on Apple podcasts. Or your favorite podcast APP.

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07 | State Secrets

The Eleventh

57:00 min | 4 months ago

07 | State Secrets

"This is an ABC podcast. Just a warning before. We thought this podcast contains some strong language. Stralia wake up to on the day after the eleven. Almost as soon as the news cited violent and ugly demonstrations right around Australia with a particularly violent demonstration in Melbourne with police wagons at one stage driving into a crowd nothing protesters and police alike to the ground. We'll talk supporters. His dismissal caused shock confusion and anger described. Believe me Oregon disgusting. I mentioned we could be pretty stormy period Malcolm. Fraser was nail the caretaker prime minister and a four week election campaign had begun. How many people here want a Liberal Party to govern? After December government that is an improper. Not that is lying to the fighters of vision of a stable future under seminar. Thirty for prosperity for responsibility. But the same thing that Mr Khan promise in a thousand years integrity and responsibility in God to talk about Stability Whitland moved to capitalize on the sense of injustice that he and his supporters felt jurors of Australian. Democracy is in. Your hands is a strategy to continue to be a parliamentary democracy government selected by the people through the People's now these questions and a only as you give the pins survival of parliamentary democracy as we know it or as we all believe we knew it until eleven th of November. Nineteen seventy five. Remember that Mr Prices Dia Shine but mice destroy. DidN'T WANNA REMEMBER WILLIAMS. Outrage just reminded voters of the years of division dysfunction and scandal that surrounded his government and when election day came around they totally rejected. Whitlam's message and his government. Tonight is the moment of truth for Australia's political leaders. And who will it be four weeks? After Whitlam Lost His job he lost the election. Malcolm Fraser's Liberal Country Party coalition was fighting with one of the biggest majorities in astrology and political history. They won by a record. Fifty five seats is GonNa ask you if you regard the size of the majority of indication of your stand over the past couple of months with the size of the majority of places a tremendous responsibility on us to govern in the interests of all spoons after the election. Australia wanted it's politicians to just get on with governing. That didn't mean that everyone was happy to forget about the dismissal. Altogether in years to come as the dust settled on this extraordinary chapter. People still wanted to know what really happened on the eleventh of November nineteen seventy five. Some people didn't know if they could trust their democracy any war. What they did know. Was that something. Unprecedented had gone down and it felt like there was more to the story. There were still so many things we didn't know including the answer to one crucial question. Did the Governor General Sir. John Kerr Act alone. I think there are enormous. Sates deceptions at the time of the dismissal. Enough to warn the removal of golf with him. I learned that I could not trust them. Won't happen with the dismissal was in a straight infighting care was writing to the claim several times a day. This is very very delicate math. I'm Alex men and this is the final episode of the Eleventh. In the years following the dismissal. There was plenty of time for people to think. About who if anyone might have helped said John Keg get the job done? I Imagine Whitlam's True Believers in those early days scratching their heads trying to understand what had just happened as if it was a kind of mystery that needed to be solved. Trolling through the Whitlam Government's years in office for clues like that time when Whitlam just three weeks into the job criticized the US for bombing. North Vietnam Nixon says this is a very very stupid thing to do then just a few weeks. After that we limbs attorney general had raided easier. This was like a domestic intrusion in the process compromise. The security of the secrets that is Yo- shared with the CIA and pissed off the agency's most senior operatives it was a raid Then in the midst of the Crisis Whitlam had made that out righteous accusation that the opposition was funded by the CIA lease man who are subsidized by and on the very day. He was dismissed as prime minister. Whitlam was planning to stand up in parliament and confirm the identity of a former. Cia agent all this during an era when the US government had supported grapes plotting a coup against another point. Government didn't like in Chile for those who are suspicious of the US and it. Secret Service timing with UNCANNY. Let me say I am not a conspiracy theorist I usually think it's a backup Rather than than conspiracy usually at someone stuffed up So this doesn't fit my nomadic Operandi. Ri- Martin was a correspondent living in New York when Whitlam was dismissed then when he started connecting those stories he came up with something pretty radical. There was so many things that happened leading up to November eleventh nineteen seventy five That involves the Americans and puts the American finger in the Drian Pie That it's hard not to believe. They went somewhere involved for those who subscribe to this theory. That thinking goes like this the US and it's intelligence agency the CIA were extremely concerned about wetlands left-wing government. They also knew that in the coming months there would have to start renegotiating with the Australian government to renew the lease on the precious listening station at Pine gap so to preserve their secrets and protect pine gap. They'd some help leaned on. So John. Kerr to sack Whitlam from his post in the US as a foreign correspondent. Raymond scored a series of exclusive interviews. That helped push that theory along the I was with the retired bus of counter intelligence the CIA. James Jesus Angleton detailed for the first time just how concerned the CIA was about Whitlam's government and in particular. How concerned they were. When Whitlam's Attorney General had righted ISO so Riasuddin James. Jesus Angleton the big question serious enough if the situation was the way you described as to warrant the removal Golf Whitlam of course absolute simply inconceivable to meddle in the internal Thursday. That's right okay. So that's a no. But Ray wasn't and still isn't really convinced by that answer. Remember this guy deals in secrets him saying that they would involve the astride election. Whether we're not is not to be taken at face value. He had no reason to stage to tell the truth. Then got a tip about another CIA connection who might be willing to talk and this man story would add more white to the theory but to interview him. Ray would have to go inside the maximum security prison in Leavenworth Kansas. This is a really heaviest of the American prisons. The serious murderers serious rapists in. This case aspires well. The spy inside the prison with a young man named Christopher Boyce and he had a story so crazy that it would eventually be turned into a Hollywood movie starring. Sean Pin voice was a private security contractor. Who'd been locked up for sailing the secret messages to the Russians but it was what was in the sacred messages that came across voices disc that were of interest to Raman and to Australia media groups across the US had been chasing Christopher Boyce's story but boys only want to speak to ray so writes this interview for Channel Nine's sixty minutes. Rays first question to boys was an obvious one so why choose us because you are Australian journalists and because I would kicked this all off was deceptions. My government against yours. Christopher Boyce was twenty one years old when he started working at an aerospace company called TRW TRW was responsible for building CIA satellites to spy on Russia and China and passing on the messages they intercepted. Boyce's job was essentially to receive decipher and pass. On the messages that came in from American intelligence insecurity installations around the world one of the key installations he received messages from was pine gap in the middle of the Australian desert and they would then decide for the messages and send the deciphered. Obviously secret information onto the CIA in Washington or in Virginia so the Inflammation Boyce was exposed to. It was top secret highly classified and confidential and the place in the W building where it was kept was a super secret room called the black vault but calling something. The black vault doesn't actually make it secure and the interview. Christopher Boyce can be seen slouched in his chair looking back at Rimington through squinted eyes then as he puffs on his cigarette he starts telling stories about the ridiculous things that he and his work might cease to do inside that Black Bolt Pretty Wild Scene. I walked into it. Black Ball was almost like the project bar. This interview was like a window into another world as boys tall rice stories about booze fueled parties a small marijuana crop growing inside the vault and then this one about how he and his colleagues had even found creative use for the CIA document shredder. We used to make dockery's document destruction blender. You can always here. I do a double take. What the shredder. Yes make decorated trees but at the some use the camera flicks back to Reimann and you can see this huge smile on his face that he's failing miserably to hide then he gives up and just chuckles out loud again. That's the that's the. That's the talk for mayor and before I got there. It wasn't my but he made a hell of a dachary. Christopher Boyce knew about pine gap he knew that the base existed on Australian soil under an agreement between the Australian and. Us government's the deal was that the US could have their secret base in the desert. As long as they shed certain information they collected with the USTRALIAN 's boss was responsible for handling a lot of the Intel that came in from pine gap but soon after he started working at Ti. W he realized that not all of it was being shared with Australia. So you will tell. The Americans would not live up to the agreement that they had all information wouldn't be shared. No one wasn't being shared. It's very important. There was no attempt to John. Hot At that was that was part of your briefing definitely hear voices. Revelations in his interview with Ray were explosive not only was he alleging that the US was in breach of its agreement with Australia. He was also saying that the organization he worked for TI W had a totally cavalier approach to protecting the sacred sit handled in one case. Boyce said he hurt his colleagues speaking openly about how they disliked Whitlam Government. Boyce says it was this attitude towards the. Us ally turned him against his time country and set him on the path that would end in him selling secrets to the Russians. One of the things that most troubled boys was a comment by staff member about the governor. General says John Carr was references to Here Governor General by the Central Intelligence resident. Evil Mr Kerr. Our Man Kerr. This was where the interview had real potential to cause a stair in Australia. Boys didn't quite know what a governor general was but he knew that the position sounded important before he was obviously top policy was a a a king like figure in Australia. And yet he was referred to by his colleagues as Elman Kerr but as far as evidence goes unverified claims. If someone saying Almond Kerr is not exactly rock-solid then it's worth saying explicitly that there is no evidence at all to suggest that co was in the pockets of the CIA. So the the smoking gun. I wonder if the Spike and Gunn exists. We know all the the strands point two would some involvement. But there isn't a the evidence that you'd put up in court and say this question of the Americas were involved but there's another strand that perhaps goes a man in a private area at the Qantas Lounge at CPI airport a small group of VIP's gathering. There's only four of us in the room. I want you to picture a really quite unpretentious very business like small wood paneled room. I think there's some coffee and drinks on the side. This is someone you haven't heard from before in this series. His name is Richard Butler. And he worked as wetlands. Chief of staff after Whitlam was dismissed. I started working for golf. I think it was four or five months after the dismissal followed by election which he lost there'd been a leadership spill and despite his massive election loss Whitlam had been reinstalled as Labor Lleida. It was nineteen seventy seven when Whitlam and Richard Butler were unexpectedly summoned to this mysterious meeting in the wood paneled room at the Qantas Lounge they'd been called in to receive a message from none other than the. Us President Jimmy Carter. He wasn't there on the day but he's Deputy Secretary of State Warren Christopher and the US ambassador to Australia would there in his place. They sat down and made a brief shove of courtesy. To see you here. It's Cetera and we got very quickly down to business first of all. He said I have asked for this meeting on instructions from President Carter. This was to make clear that this was not a lightweight metal. This was not just to be a chat. Butler says the President's missing Warren Christopher had rehearsed his message carefully and it came in four points. The first point was about how Whitlam Inkatha came from the same side of politics. This is the word he used. As fraternal parties. The second point was that the US respected the democratic rights of its allies. Next came insurance as long as he is president he will always respect the decision of the Australian people so far. Nothing to controversial Whitland by the way just listened to all of this carefully in silence but then came the kicker the final point was he wishes to assure you that they will never again be interference in the Australian political process. Not that they wouldn't ever but they will never again. Bottling tend to look at Whitland. He'd been sitting there quietly sitting on his right and he was to the left of name and his head was bowed a bit looking more at the table than a Christopher for a little while as this was being said he was taking it in. Buffalo was confused. Why wasn't Whitland reacting. Why wasn't he cross examining the president's Messenger to get some more information searching Frances? It's like the words just went sinking in golf simply took note of what he was told by. Christopher he possibly even offered his compliments be returned to president cotton to thank him full in the message that he'd sent back to courtesy as it would for Butler. The takeaway was obvious. And that was Kata acknowledging that had been deep hostility in Washington under Nixon towards with them and that they had been action taken by relevant United States are. He's to interfere. What else could have been talking about? But we didn't interpret the message like Butler in the car on the way back to the office butler. Let's says Whitlam's response to the meeting was muted. It's like he just didn't think it was that significant and I've never known why Except maybe his political and diplomatic judgment was better than mine. Golf is a very skilled statesman and Pepsi. Heard very loud and clear what was being said the judgement that this is not the time or amendment to join issue about it but simply to take note of what he'd been told and take it away and reflect on the main after a period of time golf kind of let the whole idea that they had been foreign interference in our polity directed to see him lose government. was an issue that should be pursued that he simply decided to let it go when President Carter was asked in August fifteen about this meeting about whether the CIA had interfered in Australian politics. He admitted the. Us had involved itself in other countries under previous administrations. But he said I don't know about Australia specifically It's easy to see why people find this story. Compelling they look a foreign government with a track record of political interventions around the world and they pay maybe they intervened in our politics two and as far as spy thrillers go it really does have all the right ingredients the CIA spies high stakes involving secret defense installations and the US Australia alliance but like all the best conspiracy theories. It also has a title lack of conclusive evidence. The best we've got is the word again. And the phrase Alman Kerr and on top of that the guy at the center of. It'll Gough Whitlam. Well he doesn't buy it Ray. Martin asked him about it and I said look in on it. Believe in conspiracies put all pulled together in this and he said modern think they did it he said I don't think without guilty removed. They didn't even say well the jury's out let's see what history brings in terms of it but he said he didn't think that he'd been a victim of conspiracy sow right mountains reporting was instrumental in revealing the depth of US government and CIA suspicion of Gough Whitlam and Rye Love Good Young. He's devoted his life and his career to finding them getting people to share them and then telling them to huge public audiences but even he admits the final piece of evidence is just not. Yeah and if after nearly forty five years now unfounded yet then maybe it just doesn't exist. We don't have any proof we've got all these strains at indicate with her be angleton whether it be boys whether it be Nixon Kissinger et Cetera. We have the spiking out. All we have a strays and and it remains a wonderful novel. It reminds a fantastic feature film. And maybe that fantastic feature film is obscuring another more important story. I mean what happened with the dismissal was an Australian failure. This is something. We got wrong. Journalist Paul Kelly says that theory of Foreign. Intervention is a baseless distraction from. What's actually a problem of our making? This is something we stuffed up in terms of alleys air institutions. This is Aaron failing and the effort to try and palm it off to the Americans I on this was an American conspiracy Is it somehow pathetic? We've got to face up to our own deficiencies in our own failures. So that's where we're gonNA leave this talk about the CIA putting that aside if Cho wasn't pressured by the CIA or the US you might think he had nothing to hide about. What happened on the eleventh of November? Nineteen seventy five. But you'd be wrong. Kerr had secrets. Because instead of being open and honest with the Prime Minister and making his intentions clear he'd covertly consulted with a range of powerful people developed a plan behind closed doors heated old from the prime minister and then once the date was done kept various details away. From the Glare of public scrutiny. But the secrets couldn't be kept forever. And eventually they began to surface more than a decade after the dismissal. The first clue emerged. It was a story about a crucial fine coal night on the morning of the eleventh at nine fifty five. Am A phone call from care to Fraser. This is truly famous phone. Call boys disputed. It's SA- jonker calling Malcolm Fraser. It's just a few hours before the dismissal. Although Whitlam had given her permission to consult with Fraser he knew nothing of this phone call. It was a fine coal maiden secret that Paul Kelly says should never have happened. The Governor General is not a referee the Governor General excellently on the advice of the prime minister. He doesn't act on the advice of the opposition leader any access. The opposition leader has to the governor. General is extended privilege on the fine. That morning said John. Kerr wanted some commitments. So Kerr Asks Fraser. A series of questions if we're told was dismissed and fries was made prime minister would fraser coal and advise a double dissolution election. What do you agree to run a caretaker administration during the campaign? Paul Kelly says that phrase at quickly realized these questions were much more than just hypotheticals. Fraser drew the obvious the irrefutable conclusion that Kerr was thinking and planning about dismissing the Prime Minister Fraser Hung Up. The phone jotted down some nights on a piece of paper and left it on his desk. One of his staffers would define the night and make a copy. So jonker has always denied that this fine coal happened Paul. Kelly is adamant it did so. I've called this the tip off phone call now. I think the evidence for this is overwhelming. And there's not just a direct evidence from Malcolm Fraser. There's also circumstantial evidence from other liberals as well who were in the room or who spoke to Malcolm Fraser Straight afterwards. Paul Kelly says by this point it was clear Sir John. Kerr was doing things. No Governor General had done before the real motive is to ensure that this high risk exercise the extraordinarily high risk exercise on which Kerr is embarking actually goes smoothly and that he achieves the two essential conditions the dismissal of Whitlam on the commissioning of Fraser. So it's it's about Kerr. It's about ensuring that his plan works. Do you call that collision. There's no doubt whatsoever that he'd has clear and distinct overtones of collusion fraser ahead. A degree of prior knowledge that was denied to Richland. That's inexcusable when I interviewed phrases chief of Staff. Dial Bud even. He seemed quite uncomfortable about these fine coal. But wasn't there when the fine call happened but he was the one who found and photocopied phrases. Notes from the call. It was Highly unusual irregular For these conversations to occur say at worst they were plotting together to take down the Whitlam Government and at best. It's highly inappropriate contact with the leader of the opposition at an incredibly tense. Political Time isn't it? I wouldn't Agree with the proposition. That Malcolm Fraser and Sa- Jonker were plotting together. Was it inappropriate contact? I really can't. I can't explain or defend that you wouldn't defend that. Nah Not Defend. That Fraser isn't the only person that care may have consulted within sacred and there were more surprises in store for those who are coming through the evidence trying to work out what had happened. I firmly believe that from the very first days at this missile when I was about twenty nine almost had a gut feeling that couldn't be something Simon Mantis type place with. Only the Governor General making a sole decision on his own journey. Hugging Whitlam's biographer three decades after the dismissal. When she started to try to make sense of Whitlam's Downfall. She went to the National Archives to look over the pipes of. Sir John Kerr. These deposited many years earlier. But under the Archives Act they only become available for view at that time. City is after they were they were created. Hawking was one of the first to examine them and as absolutely staggered father significance. And by the fact that I hadn't become part of the historic research before that date they were unopened. She went through file after file and eventually she opened one. That contained a bombshell. I do recall precisely opening that fall which had a very bland heading. There's no indication from that it was going to be enormously volcanic in the way that it was transforming our understanding of the dismissal that we'd had previously there's not add about that. The file came with a cryptic message. Handwritten by Sir John Kerr but it was also very floridian. It's language very melodramatic. He says if the document is found among my papers after I have died because he's role will be lost to history and it should be known. He's he's role should be non and as I'm reading it. I think he who's he. Who's this person that's had this extraordinary role as absolutely shocked to see that it was Anthony? Mason? There was already nine that are anthony. Mason was one of the High Court. Judges had spoken to just dies before the dismissal. But until hawking found this document it was assumed that his contact with care on issue was minimal. What does files showed was that in fact? Mason had been in secret communication with Kerr Advising Kerr on his POWs since at least August. Nineteen seventy five. It was an incredible revelation. It showed Sir John. Kerr had been talking with sir. Anthony Mason about the possibility of sacking them for at least three months before he did it. That's well before Fraser. Blocked supply and forced parliament into a deadlock but Mason's role went even further sir. Antony's role cannot be underestimated. He's rose hi close and such an active one that he actually drafted a letter of dismissal. Foca and on top of that when the dismissal was hanging in the balance on the afternoon of November the eleventh while the Speaker of the House of Representatives was kept. Whiting by Sir. John Kerr but I believe intelligence told just in the corridor the now wipe say speaker of the House of Representatives. They have that nation conveyed to Kerr had called Anthony Mason on the phone for advice. Coup was concerned rather delightedly. You might think concerned about the fact that the House of Representatives had now very clearly stated that it wanted the governor general terrain state the Whitlam Government and Mason say to him that the motion of the House while he relevant so John. Kirk kept the speaker whiting then finished off what it started shocked by the new information. She'd found Jenny hocking. Arrange to meet up with Sir Anthony Mason. She wanted to know exactly what role he played in advising Kerr I say to him very clearly I neither one of I need to that point. People still leaving who can shade rely on what actually happened at that time and I said would you in the interest of history speak to me about it and he looked at me and said I o history nothing. It's a brave man that tells a professor of history that they owe history nothing. I was so appalled by that comment from somebody who had spent much of his working life working in public office to have such an attitude that it was a tyke secret decisions that impacted enormously on our history and on our political history in particular and yet not be prepared to speak about it publicly and deny any responsibility to history but later in two thousand twelve sir. Anthony Mason was prepared to cite something publicly about his discussions with it was a three thousand five hundred word statement published in the Sydney Morning Herald in it. He admitted Kirk consulted with him months before the dismissal that he had advanced knowledge of Kerr's intentions and that he prepared an early draft of a letter of dismissal but he insists he didn't encourage or advise KURT TO SACK. Whitlam and notes. That didn't end up using the draft glitter of dismissal. That he wrote a Sarangani. Mason statement also contained another massive revelation that he'd made it clear to her that if he was going to dismiss. Whitlam should want him. I something Kurt did not do. We asked Sarah Anthony Mason for an interview and he declined so months before the dismissal said John Kerry had been shoring up his understanding of the palace. He held an hours before the dismissal. He'd secretly sounded out. Malcolm Fraser to make sure his plan would work. But while the secrecy. Well it's pretty clear that said John Kerry was afraid of losing his job. He knew that if Whitland got an inkling of what he was considering Whitlam might have contacted the Palace and had him removed. But it's not really in the Governor General's job description to go about making sacred plans behind the prime minister's back. Kerr gave Whitlam no sense that there was even a possibility of dismissing the government and this is a really critical factor particularly in the context of his openness with Abbas is the contrast of that with his secrecy with the government of the day Virginia Hawking the paces was starting to fit together then the extent of curse subterfuge was becoming clear. Then in two thousand ten hawking found something else incurs private papers something that if it was true had the potential to implicate Buckingham Palace in the dismissal of an Australian prime minister. It was a diary entry. That would go onto caused a huge controversy and huge fights over the veracity and meaning of curse words. It was about a meeting with Prince Charles in Papua New Guinea in September seventy five. They was nasty. Isn't my Shakespearean sort of meeting. All of the people who later with the protagonist in the dismissal. Prince Charles was there. John was there and Gough Whitlam was there. The plane just arrived. The Jet Tha carrying His Royal Llamas Prince Charles landed from the what's taking place is Independence Day in. Png John White shirt and trousers in his diary entry about This Day. John details the conversations. He says he had with Prince Charles. This Jenny hocking interprets that diary entry. He had this extraordinary conversation with Prince Charles and the extraordinary conversation included a discussion by could that he may at some point need to remove the government from office and remember. It's September a month before supplies even blocked in the Senate which means if it happened the Waco described then like the secret consultations with Mason. This discussion would have been taking place before. There was even a deadlock to warrant the government's dismissal but he put to Charles that he was concerned. That Whitney might try to remove him from office. That if Whitlam got wind the fact that the Governor General was considering having almost prime minister himself might seek to remove Kerr Governor General but what is the most extraordinary incurs recanting of this conversation with Prince? Charles was that Charles responded but so John Surely you should not have to be recalled from office just when you are considering dismissing? The government hawking interprets. That statement like this that Kerr shouldn't have to fear for his own job while he was considering sacking Whitlam now that is critical absolutely critical because it shows us that the palace three Prince Charles was aware of the possibility of the dismissal of the government in September. Nineteen seventy five. According to Carr's diary Prince Charles then passes on those concerns to the Queen's private secretary who then rights to a saying that in this kind of scenario quite although the Queen would try to delight things in the end she would have to take the prime minister's advice in other words rather than acting on the advice of the prime minister. Whitlam try to recall from office as Governor General rather than acting on that which in any constitutional monarchy is the requirement that the quaint acts on the advice of the prime minister that they would be an attempt to delay things. If this is in fact what the Palace Roy took her Jenny. Hocking believes that would have taken comfort from it. He would have taken great strength from that decision from the palace and he would have seen that as a raw grain lot for the action. He was too tight so jenny. Hocking believes the diary nights shy while the prime minister was kept completely in the dark the palace was aware of what? Co was considering. Here's the thing though. This is all become the subject of a huge controversy journalist. Paul Kelly for one says the account of the conversation with Prince. Charles is so extraordinary. He doubts that it happened. The way describes in his diary. It's an extraordinary exchange If it's true or they would have to be a doubt about its veracity. There's no other anecdotal or documentary evidence to sustain this at all rather than concentrating on the part of the letter talking about delays. Paul Kelly looks at the other part of the letter that says in the end she would have to take the prime minister's advice which is basically just a statement of fact that if the prime minister tried to have her removed eventually the. Queen would have to follow that advice. That's the rules. Kelly says he wouldn't be surprised at all if there was some chatter between care in the palace in general terms about the possibility that the Governor General might have to intervene because at the time a lot of people were raising that possibility but in the end he believes Kurt never told the palace that he was going to sack Whitlam and that he never sought their approval. That is the longstanding long documented position of the Governor General. It's the longstanding long documented position of the palace. It's what the palace senior officials have said repeatedly to what they have put in their documents to the Australian government Gough Whitlam never never made any such accusation that the palace the Queen Walls Party To this and we don't have any hard documentary evidence to the country. And that's what could resolve this debate once and for all had documentary evidence instead of relying on these vague descriptions and fragments from Kerr's diaries. What if we had copies of every letter exchange between Kerr and the palace? Well we actually do. We actually have those leaders. They're sitting in a room in Australia's national archives. But we're not allowed to look at them. They raise actually a bundling. The National Archives called the palace leaders. They something like forty or fifty leaders as I understand ours told that they were not available for public access because they were personal papers. The Pella slid has could be the last remaining trove of documents capable of shedding light. On Sir John Kerr's private thinking at the time of the dismissal and they could finally settle the question of what the palace knew if anything about what he was planning but because the lead is a class as personal correspondence. They can't be made public until twenty twenty seven and even then the palace would have the power to veto their release for his part. Kerr said that when the lettuce were eventually released they would show he acted properly jenny. Hocking doesn't want to take his word for it. She's been engaged in a three year battle to get access to that bundle of letters. All Australian should have a right to know what the Governor General was writing to the Queen. And what the Queen was writing to the Governor General regarding the removal of an elected government from office. So my Christie's one in which I've faced a barrier and given that I have a capacity to try and open that area all continue to decide ultimately only said Joan knows why he acted the way he did you ask supporters. They say he suffered unfairly for it. And that if people had a problem with how things panned out they should direct their anger at Whitlam or Fraser. But Not Kerr in view. The Governor General was just the guy with the ability to resolve the crisis using power granted to him by the Constitution. He was acting in the national interests in the end. He just got caught in the middle but whatever his motives. It's true that history has not been kind to SA- Joan Kerr. One of his last public appearances as Governor General was at the nineteen seventy seven Melbourne Cup. In this recording the crowds can be heard booing and heckling as core approached the microphone. He was visibly drunk Life is wonderful for all of us. Especially winners of the Melvin cap about a month later. Sir John Kerr resigned his position as governor general addict after that in nineteen ninety seven he gave a rare interview with UK broadcaster. Geoffrey Robinson. It's one of the few interviews he did when he talks at length about the events of November eleven nineteen seventy five not think that the whole business an anger that's erupted it's made you a leper in your own land. Thanks for that. But it's true but absolutely not invited to to functions even still in use afterwards Jeffrey. This is a very very delicate math. I bet you now I know what price I what I've read so bad road I did. Because in the same circumstances which very special and unusual I would do the same with all the conscientious so jonker died three and a half years. Later on March Twenty Fourth Nineteen ninety-one. He was seventy six years old. So what about Whitlam? Well after the seventy five election loss he stuck around for the next election in seventy seven but he lost that to raise a to whatever people felt about the Y. Whitlam lost his job. It seemed they didn't want him and the Labour Party back in government in Nineteen ninety-five Whitlam gave a speech to mark the twentieth anniversary of the day. He lost his job. It was vintage Whitlam. Filled with in jokes pointed. Barbs at Sir. John Kerr expense. Did he think disc jockey from Quebec and he obsessed over the dates and details of perceive betrayals the tenth of October the seventeenth of October. And the twenty ninth of October. What emerges is a desire for his story the story of his downfall as hey soared to be a matter of public record. I should I indicate my witness that by now these have been truly belong to history for the great majority but that might be no bar at all against the proper understanding of the truth of the matter like most great dramas. The central plot is simple enough. The essence of the operation by which my government was dismissed was secrecy. Secrecy was the absolute condition for the success of the intervention. But we're talking about secrecy sustained against the elected government and the Governor General's constitutional advisor the prime minister. It's this aspect but those who come fresh to the matter find most unbelievable to his critics. Whitland was arrogant reckless and politically responsible to his supporters. He was an idol but to both Iva time he came to be recognized as visionary his reforms around education health care and aboriginal land rights would decades ahead of his time and they transformed the country as he grew old. Gough Whitlam Made Amends. With Malcolm Fraser. In daylight of years the two were more like friends than arch political rivals gough. Whitlam died in two thousand fourteen at the age of ninety eight Malcolm. Fraser died just six months later. Aged eighty four Williams head of department. John Managing continued working with Malcolm Fraser after he won the nineteen. Seventy five election managed. You eventually lift twelve months later. His ability to trust in our institutions never fully recovered. I learned from bitter experience that I had to Tampa my trust some people. Do you think that's what's so painful to recall about this? That it didn't just lose. Your boss. Lost Part of European ability to trust us. I'm more careful about trusting people now. I guess we're all brought up to learn and believe that we need to trust people to my bitter experience. I learnt that I could not trust them and that shook. My confidence inseminate many other institutions like the monarchy The Governor General that so-called powerful influential people could not be trusted. That's what I carry the sky that I carry from the events of November. Live nodding seventy five John Managerial wasn't the only one who'd lost trust in our institutions in the wake of the crisis. Australia's faith in democracy. Hit an all time low but Jenny hocking says if we FICO SOMBAT THEN. We risk learning the wrong lessons from this story. We often remember what Gulf Whitland sit on. The steps of all pound has that day maintain your rage but we should also remember the full quite which maintain your rage and your enthusiasm through my gambling. You going now. Because even at his moment of his greatest despair in terms of the way the institutions of democracy worked over that period he's concern was not with the institutions per se. He never lost faith in institutions. But he was deeply distressed by the actions of those who helped positions of power in those institutions. In that instance. So maybe this is legacy of Whitlam's dramatic rise in full a lesson about the frailty of Australian democracy and it comes with a warning that the institutions that hauled it altogether are only as strong as the people at the top. Prime ministers included. It's a lesson we shouldn't forget. Luckily this story once you've had it. It isn't easily forgotten because as Paul Kelly says. It's just an unbelievably compelling story. It's the most extraordinary story. Where can you get a more dramatic fantastic unfathomable incomprehensible and catastrophic story than this? It is the most compelling narrative about human nature and power but beyond. That is the more serious question for young people. This is your country. This is what we are. This didn't happen all that long ago. That happened in the lifetime of your parents. They lived through it. And what it tells you is. That democracy is not guaranteed. Stability and proper functioning democratic system is not guaranteed. 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"Bliss. This is no fantasy focus baseball podcast here, your hosts, Tristan cockroach, and Eric era bell. I walk into fantasy focus baseball to beautiful Monday morning, March twenty fifth two thousand nineteen I Eric is Tristan with us. Editorial watch star. Leo, Hal, and also are awesome researcher bracket genius occasional producer because someone has to do it. Kyle soppe here as well. It's the four of us big happy family so much weekend. News to cover. How will we get to all of it? Just and you had like eighteen dress weekend. Are you little bit tired? You feel? Okay, ready actually got a good night's sleep last night. I didn't before my draft. So I did it in reverse what I suggest everybody. Oh, drafts never end. Greg Holland in. Zero on what nine leagues several, including the vampire. Yeah. You added him in didn't draft him. I'll tell you. I drafted him in like negative two leagues. So. Yeah. I did. I drafted him. And in tweeted out saying I feel ill. But I drafted him in a league yesterday. It's an Email drafts. It's been going rather slowly. And and then somebody that's in the league retweeted might read. Was on Twitter. Anyway, we have so much to get to seems silly to waste time. Let's get to the bus. We're going to start in the great state of Ohio where the couple infielders I think we'll go Cincinnati Reds. I that happened. I so the first thing that happened with the reds is the Nixon Zell awesome prospect. We think is going to hit in the majors was demoted to the minor leagues. And I thought this is not a conspiracy barely played in triple A's barely played in center field. Scott had a great spring. Also Shutler thirty home runs two years ago. This not no big deal that Nixon del starts in the minors. The agent went nuts. But it doesn't have to be a conspiracy about you know, about what is it roster. You know, it's not the reds doing something that the first of all legal, even if they wanted to it's not a flag, rare situation a day later scooter Janette got hurt and it's a serious groin injury. He's out to three months. The reds are not going to play sends out second. He's bringing groom for center field. I agree with all this. Jose Peraza moves short the second Hosea, glazed. Play short of very good defender and can steal a base. I agree with what the reds are doing. But from fantasy angle if you're drafting today Ginette is not going around seven, it's probably like round twenty cents L. Maybe don't draft him at all your thoughts. I don't agree with it. And I'm really surprised that you do I agree with the idea that shetler was gonna plan centerfield. I don't have a problem with that. And if you wanna groom sell the plan centerfield, I understand that. That's the Billy Hamilton thing. Remember Billy Hamilton was a shortstop when he was rising the minor league ranks, and it didn't take long for him to get used the transition center field. So if that's the idea with cell, I get it. But once Ginette went down, I do not understand Jose glazed over Nixon's, L, A baseball perspective kind of thing. I don't understand it at all. And it's frustrating for fantasy. I think the takeaway for us, though, is that I don't think they're going to get much production. The reds out of glazed. I get that. He's pretty decent defensively. They moved Jose Peraza second. So any Peraza? Managers we'll get benefit of some additional position flexibility. But I think it's going to have to get that second base conversation around mid April, and he'll be a guy who's considered for a call up in the Ladimir Guerrero timeframe, I still actively drafting him didn't change them in my ranks at all. I kinda wanna more after this genetic dri. But if you draft today you can't draft a net around seventy a third of the season. Right. Right. Where would you draft? I think he's going to be a late round pick. I think we're looking at him in the fifteen to twenty round rains, and I was there in the first place because I wasn't sure he was going to make the team. I wasn't sure centerfield was going to work out. It was a full outfield, but they did to moat Phillip Ervin. So that was another guy taken out of the equation sends Ella's well to you know, we'll see like the upside. I know look I understand you're disappointed. But this is this is totally reasonable what the reds are doing. He barely played AAA barely played center field. You can't just take a guy who's been a, you know, a middle infielder and say all right play center field. It's like morte. Maybe just not ready needs more reps. I don't know if cells going to be up in the majors a week or in ten or twelve weeks. I don't know. But that's not dead. So he's gonna come back and play second base. So I understand why they're doing it. Being drafted teams. It's three months. I mean, right. So like it's engine that goes back to say sends out here move to center without any practice and that from that aspect. I completely understand it. But I think they're going to be forced in the situation. More sense L makes more sense at second base. They already have a full outfield. So I don't get why they're not just trying to make things work from a long term perspective. If it's here's the other when it came to mind when you're talking there labor tours is a good example of this. He missed a lot of time because of injury before last season it was in two thousand seventeen and missed a lot of time started last season in the majors. And then was quickly promoted. I feel like that's what's going to happen a cell, but you just deal with it. You let him to that position at the major league level on April. Twentieth or something. We'll be onto the Cleveland Indians Jose Ramirez a big scare to everybody Indians fans and the fantasy industry when he found a ball off his knee and was carted off the field. Couldn't even walk Walker with help to get off the field initial x rays say no fracture. But I think he starting on the injuries. I doubt he plays this week. It's probably be a week or two just like Francisco indoors. So they're going with like Brad Miller they signed yesterday, and some guys I haven't even heard of if you're drafting today, again, if you've already got Ramirez or Lynn door on a team or even Ginette doing anything, you're not dumping. These guys got you're ready. You don't cut them. But if drafted today's Jose Ramirez, still your first round pick. Yeah. He is. I probably would now take JD Martinez. Just because any day lost is a problem. I mean Ramirez could as you said miss a chunk of time. I I'd be shocked if he plays on all day. I really would. He actually had been drafted minutes before that happened in one of my this weekend for forty one dollars point league. And there was a little bit of a freak out in the room. So it has an impact there will be a little bit of a mistime. And I do think there's probably going to be an over correction in drafts that happened from this point forward. And I if you're taking them out of the first round, that's that's too much. Yeah. I agree with that. And speaking too much Cleveland's lineup right now. Yeah. It's not. It's not so great. I mean, if you take out you know, these MVP contenders. It looks like Leona Martine Jake Bowers Carlos Santana Hanley Ramirez will be the DHA, and then it really gets ugly Eric's Demetz is shortstop were telling, you know, about Eric's, the Mets and Macs more. I don't think you can. Yeah. That's just got my knowledge from you. Right there. It turns out from the Tokyo games that Matt Olson with a Hamid injury. We see this all the time. It's not. I mean, I don't wanna say it's not a big deal. But we know how to deal with having injuries. That concern is that when they when the player comes back six weeks later from surgery will the power be there. This is Matt Olsen the first baseman, and he was going tenth among the first basement ESPN ADP which surprised me a little because he's not gonna win a batting title to forty something last year. But he is out probably until mid-may the F. Let's say jerks and profile compla-. I and Chad Pinter play second you, and I both like Pender if you're drafting today would you draft Pindar over Olsen or is that too much? That's too much. And I've been seeing it over correction and the two drafts I did this weekend. Ulsan never got beyond six dollars. And they were on base percentage league. So there was a benefit to drafting Matt Olsen. Wow. I took him in one of them. I took him in the AL for exactly six dollars. I thought it was a good value. Because there's no reason that we need to severely. Move them down the ranks that's affecting a standard ESPN league on drafted player. This is a guy who. Yeah. I know we get the one deals or the I L spot. But I think he's worth it right now. And frankly, I'd try to carry him on my bench until he comes back because I love the power potential. Yeah. And you know, it's a shame. But like the power potential could be affected. We don't need to ask the funding Bill this. We know that haven't injury Reese can affect power when they come back. We're just gonna have any idea here. Some people might over correct? And just not want Olsen and take another first baseman. I mean, I'm not saying, you know, dropping down Mitch Moreland. But if you don't wanna take also going the top hundred. Yeah. In nine OBT leagues. So this be a little bit careful there. I guess my advice, and I still think Martinez gonna play plant can is gonna play. Plenty kills lefties. Give me if I told you chat Pinnock, it's five hundred plate appearances to me his other numbers that matter. If he gets five hundred I think penders capable of twenty five twenty eight home runs and the rest is kind of forget -able the problem with Pender. Is you want him in the daily leagues where you can slot him out against the tough Raitis? He should not be getting the five hundred and facing the tough Renita pitchers. I think the appropriate amount is he's in the four hundred four fifty range. And in that case, if they're using them when they should maybe he gets you at two sixty batting average on that doesn't hurt you. Okay. So it's still twenty five to twenty eight homers with two sixty batting average. That's that's a top fifteen rounder right there. Yeah. But also missing six weeks of the season. That's still like a quarter of the season. I'm not saying I would take Pinter over also Pinner second base eligibility. He's gonna play. He can't it. Right. Hinters case can be made. Well, he doesn't hit writers right handers. Well, that's the problem. I mean, he's he's got the Harrison baiter issue. He's just not a guy you wanna use in our standard game against righties. Getting tickets online before too complicated with hundreds of sites varying levels of reliability. It's just hard to know who to trust. That's why seek is the way to go. Seek pulls millions of tickets into one place you can easily find the seats you want for price. You're willing to pay. There's nothing quite like being there in person and seek. We'll get you closer to the action for great value seeking designed to make your ticket buying experience easier than ever by searching multiple ticket sites and grading every ticket based on value seeking ups immediately. 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Archie, Bradley and Yoshi Arana will be set up in mainly. He says this surprise me that admit it because how has experienced in the role, which is ridiculous because Bradley and around a closed just fine without experience. But also because the other guys are a little bit more versatile compete more than three outs. So, you know, my first thought was better get on this one league where my second closer Sarangani. And I might need saves. I don't know how getting three saved thirty. But I think each is possible. Now, most people are going to say, he's just terribly pitch. Well, he pitched fine last two months for washing last year. So you tell me three saves or thirty which is more likely three by a lot. But I see exactly where you're. Why? So sure Lay's I'm stunned. He won this job. I think year probably Sunday one this job. If it's a job arou- ski approach by the Diamondbacks here by Tory level. I get it that that you don't need to have your best arm in the ninth inning and the same situation. But the problem I have with Holland is that he hasn't had the durability over the past couple years. The other thing too is he pitches in the ballpark. That does have the stat cast pitch tracking. And if you've looked at the velocity for him. He's averaging ninety point three miles per hour this fastball. This is a guy was dialing up to ninety five years ago. So his stuff's not there. It's a very surprising move to me. I hear everything you're saying. My question is a year ago on this has nothing to do with who were talking about. Remember how poorly Shohei Ohtani pitched last spring velocity was down. And we said he's gonna get lit up. And then he just amped it up when April started why are we assuming that Holland can't throw ninety four anymore? Like, maybe he's just working. His pitches. I I wanna be optimistic here. I hear what you're saying. Mollica lose the job the first week of the season. And but I don't think they want Bradley the clothes. They stone. I going to lean toward Holland getting thirty say's it'd be ugly. It might be an interrupt any like, you know, or some name closer K who he's been ugly and doing it. I it keeps us job awhile. But I get it with Rodney and get it with K rod because they were at least pitching effectively like in his case. He still throwing the fastball more than half the time. So I don't know exactly what he was doing in order to get that lower velocity. We're talking about a three mile per hour drop. It's I know exactly what you're saying here and save the best guy does not need to be getting the saves. I totally understand that. But you had Yoshito Hirano who through I mean, not often the spring, but through more effectively, I would have given him the job Bradley hasn't been Archie, Bradley. He hasn't been that great either. I understand not putting him in the closer role. But Greg Holland I questioned on the roster. I think he's worth taking because of the saves. So I'm with you on that. But I would I'd I'd be formulating. My ex plan the minute. I get him. I agree. But I think this is going to be like Brad box burder. He keeps the closer role has an era over four, but it keeps the role for at least four or five months. The over on. Gimme a good over under number, and we'll take we'll see where we're at on that on what on saves on the roster. Say it's a box burger year thirty as with your f- four twenty wrongly under I'll take an under against that any day. Oh, you should. I think everybody should. But I think it's going to happen Milwaukee after our show last week core Canaveral says, maybe this is worse than we've been telling everybody during Jefferson's already on the deal. My Josh hater hate which is not, hey, it's about value and saves looks ridiculous now and Craig kimbrel is stolen sign. Although the parent he's talking to the brewers. So I'll ask you this does any brewer get twenty saves. And who is oh that's a good question. I think nobody gets twenty days. Well, nobody on the brewers today. It's twenty saves. It could will sign he would get it. Right. It could very well. Be correct camera. But I like where you're going here. It's not a matter of that. I don't like the arms on the bullpen. But right now, I'm not willing to jump on to the Josh hater twenty projection. I don't think they're gonna use them that way. I'd agree with you on that. I just don't. Let's talk rotations briefly. Miami made some interesting moves that you don't often see for an also ran team way in Shan going to the bullpen. Basically overpaid. He'll never pitch until they can dump them and Dan stralia designated for sinement. He probably gave up a home run while I was saying that. But what this means is that Pablo Lopez who I've been really all over this whole off season. I took them in a similar league. As a keeper I took him in and I'll labor as I wanna put in the rotation right away. Lopez in the rotation calebs v you you wrote about as one of your I don't remember which article sleeper or was it a bold statement? Miami's making moves of this rotation. They may not score on a runs. But I like the pitching the agree. I do the bold prediction. Remember where you're saying with Caleb Smith, I forget which call him. It was too. But the one I liked was I think the that the Marlins rotation cannon will out pitch the Atlanta Braves rotation and I know now because of the Braves rookie. Who are in there? That's not as crazy as it sounds. But just take the Morlin seriously. Trevor Richards had a great spring Caleb. Smith got healthy a lot quicker than I expected. Pablo Lopez Eric you said that was a guy who was didn't meet the qualification for king's command, but got a write up because I love the stuff and he met the numbers on limited batters faced these three guys are great Dr throws even in our game. I think if you feel strongly about one in particular, it's Caleb Smith throw the dart. For me. It's probably Lopez. I picked them up in the vampire league. And I also think sandy Al Qatar is worth looking at. So a lot of walks but pitcher these are strikeout pitchers, and we don't know the closer yet. I mean, we were talking saves here, but who do all right anymore. Get twenty. All I think Lino right now. And I think if anyone does it's Romo I think it's Romo too. And the fact that they haven't announced it yet makes me think it's Romo. I don't know. Why? I mean, if second rider, they have Adam Conley actually looks good. I like him I do too. I think I think it's Romo or why would you keep them on the roster? It's almost like why would you signed him? If you're going to get rid of stray, and hopefully chin why would you keep Romo around if he's not your closer almost been? Okay. This spring too. So I think that that's kind of a sign that he I think you're overrating spring numbers. It doesn't matter for Romo. What is spring numbers? Are they know what he can do? They know he's experienced and they probably wanted to get safe. So they can flip them July would be my guess. Yeah. I'd agree. I mean value, but the thing is that if you're gonna compare contrast him against her second writer, who's the righty. And I think Mattingly likes to go with the right handed pitcher. I think Romo elevates based on the spring performance. I like calmly. I think commonly probably has the most upside of the three here's the lefty, though, a lot of managers don't like lefties to close Atlanta's starting rotation, and we'll get to this more on Thursday as we preview the big weekend the game start on Thursday and they start in the afternoon. So you may not listen to the show, but give me your take on what Atlanta's doing in the first week of the season car. Right. Neither the rotation against. And they say get playing the Phillies, which is a very right handed lineup except for Bryce Harper. So I understand why land might do this going with right hand heavy in the rotation. But you know, these guys stick around, what do you think I wonder whether they when they put Sean nukem in the home opener. Whether it was just because they wanted to have the more the guy who earned it off stats last year in the home opener game. And they did it at the expense of the two road games and Philly. And if that's the case, it was a foolish move. I'm teed up here to feel like a hater today. But I don't understand the to Tucson demotion. I know he's got control issues. I don't understand sending him to the minors and not giving chance over Bryce Wilson IMAX freed. And as a matter of fact, if I'm in L only league or a very deep mixed league. I'm still going to throw that dart at Tucson. I just think he has good stuff and he'll be back pretty quickly. I can't start a Bryce Wilson. I just I don't see enough of a track record here for me. I do think how right is a very interesting prospect. But you've gotta draft them and put them on your bench. I can't use them against philli. Maybe the Miami game in the second turn. And by the way. This isn't homers Phillies right hand hitter. Do it Ryan pitching. I mean Hoskins if he plays mccartin's fine JT real Muto jeans girl gets hits against everybody. So it's not like the obviously opener a right handed pitcher against Rhianna hinders like that. I mean Philly's gonna hit right handed pitching. So but it's only one series. I just in Colorado has some nice upside here one last guy here before we. Get to the break and hashbrowns which hill the dodgers shocking. He's on the DL, but give me your take on the dodgers rotation here occur Shaw. Nope as bueller pitching right away. I'm not sure. Vicky with the dodgers. Yeah. I think he's gained three bueller? It'll be Jin Ryu in the opening day game. And Ross stripling. I believe it's going to be bueller for the next one Julio Maria still in the running for the rotation. So I could see them being forced to put them in there before and more likely the five I think the dodgers are just like they were the past two seasons going to be requiring a lot of management from fantasy managers here. You're going to keep the pay attention to the rotations never trust the to start options here. But the upside for each of these arms is still great. I still do want to get ruin the games. He starts and stripling in the games. He starts most certainly Buehler's going to be in for every game. He pitches. I think it's a matter of fact, those three I would start anytime. And really, I think he's probably going to give you one hundred quality innings one way or the other who makes more starts this season ranked them Kershaw your ES. Stripling. In order of most starts, I'll go stripling Kershaw. Reas about you any may twenty nobody makes twenty five on the three of them. I think stripling could. But I know I don't think I don't think anyone will get there. That's the first half of our show. Come back for the second and asked Brown's took -nology truth to cold. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? Did she lose that? We'd worker. Oh, Sint, wait. No, no, no, no truth. It's so easy to switch and save on car insurance. Geico dot com Janet, I think my phone was hacked or something. Go fifteen minutes could save you fifteen percent or more. Somebody tweeted us that the song has pleaded the wedding ce-. See? I saw that it should be. I don't do. I return. Yeah. You gotta play the October Tober. Yeah. So I mean, I'm not football season guy. Believe me, I'm not the one that date college. Just the first dance the song. Of course. All right over the top though. Right. Or you just for mental. I'll sing something for if you. I like the sounds of this tryst. I don't know the words to this. It's gold radio gold right there. Speaking of gold. We got some hashbrowns coming in always before the podcast hit me up on Twitter. Hashtag OPEC's Moby will take care of your questions. Make your smarter fantasy baseball player the next morning. Matt wants to know why is there no excitement surrounding Steven Souza this season put together a thirty sixteen inches to season ago. Steven Souza who have somewhere, you know. This happens a lot to be honest with like I player gets hurt a player. Does this you know, or mentioned player in the hash Browns. I'm like, I know I got him somewhere. But where now like people are trying to get me during yet, another big. I'm thinking, I don't know where he is. Talking about. Yeah. Gotta get the napkins go there. I'm telling you. You are on the ball. When you have those set. I know Souza's on one of my teams, at least your RT's definitely somewhere. You're just not sure where I never lose my car. Even Susan you can't keep track of. I thought I'd scooter somewhere, and I was scooter where your car keys. They're in my drawer there. Always in my either my Jerome my pocket. That's it. No other place. I will put my car keys are man on the door handle. I'm with you. Give an easier time, finding your keys your phone. Phone number my side. And the my phone is always on this actually a body part. Isn't it? You know, I've been trying to use the phone less. I'll admit to that. And you'll think this weird as a guy we third of cookie. I will not check my I will check my phone now at only the top or bottom of the hour as long as it's not like as long as it's not like a high traffic time where I'm doing something like Saturday afternoon. I'm watching basketball. It's two o'clock. I get an Email to eight I wait till two thirty. That's my discipline. I will not check my phone every time. I get an Email text after flight to that's one thing. But I will wait now I will try to wait top of the bottom of the hour. Check my phone. I don't think it's close you're the most disciplined person on planet earth, my Welby. That's not crazy though. Crazy. No, I like it. I do. Oh, I do it. My wife literally on her phone all the time caught her too. But I will not I will just put the phone down. I hear the Email, and I say I can wait what emailing me to fifteen on Saturday afternoon. I can't wait it can wait. Yeah. If you text how could you? We're wasting time. What's that? All right. So Steven Susan. I probably like more than you expected to hit around two forty. But I do think he twenty five Homer. Fifteen steel season is possible. If you could just say healthy. No, I'm not because I just ran the per one sixty two games numbers on baseball reference for his three or average here. And it was two thirty eight average twenty five homers, fourteen stolen bases. So you're spot on threes when he's healthy. Yeah. You're right. And from that aspect, I like why aren't people drafting him? It's the health history. That's all it is. And we can guess is eighty games or one hundred forty we just don't know. By the way, crystal Walker me that team now, I don't know if he can play corner outfield that they're saying Vullo again, this apprise me Jake land can't hit left him pitching. Why would you play him against left pitching? When you've got Christian Walker. He's saying that Lampley against all pitching. Now. I think that's just ridiculous, and I wanna see Christian Walker do is Christian Villanueva thin but over under on plate appearances for Christian Walker. I guess we have to set it low to eighty. Two eighty okay. I'll say OB higher. Yeah. I'll say over. But I also am not a big, Jake lamb guy. And this is a level this level of March twenty eighth. We'll see what level is April fourth looks like. Yeah. Take sues over lamb, of course. I think Susan the first twenty rounds. Yes. I think he's your fourth or fifth outfitter and agree that he's going where ship next. All right Stevens got draft today. And he's putting all his trust in you guys to make final two picks wants a hitter in a pitcher that aren't being drafted most leagues. It can win him his league. Aren't being drafted aren't drafted. We mentioned we met few. So we'll we'll give you knew guys. Sure Lopez is like beavers going than Pablo is at the top of my worst. And be should be doing. Let me not being drafted. This new ADP got click conflict and click to get to the end. Or I got a pitcher for you to Kristen Stewart of Detroit is probably gonna hit twenty home runs lease piece. And I mean, again, we're not trying to put excessive weight in the spring numbers. But it's been a a promising spring for him, which is what he needed. He can hit. He's got pot. Yup. And going right next to ADP friend morass, I staw- no clarity on San Diego's outfield. But I don't see how men willmar go can start centerfield. I and they're saying we'll Myers will not play center. He's leftfielder. So hunter Renfro is getting drafted in a whole lot of leagues and may not play regularly. Now, I don't know what they're gonna do. I guess try raise or Renfrew center. I haven't seen much talk about Franci creek Dera. I say Ryan McMahon's another guy to watch. He could get four hundred. Appearances and do damage, in course, what do you got the pitcher? I was thinking Michael Pineda seeing him ending up going as a mixed league. Reserve bought a lot of promising signs on the health front kind of like the Caleb. Smith thing. I said earlier in the show the hitter I'm seeing going around the reserve times in and we're talking about the just the majority of mixed leagues. And most definitely understand games. Rhino Hearn o'hearn another guy who's put up pretty decent disciplined numbers during spring training. I think that's a positive that locks down a job from. He does very good power. I am a big Ryan on her venue. Saw me take him in our sim keeper as well. And I'm expecting. I have been my score. She league I know in a platoon with Matt Davidson, I've got like four platoons on my scoresheet team Hearn with Davidson Davidson hits left. He's and he hits for power. I've got one I've got greater Sohn and cannon right field. I think that's great. I love that platoon. What else do I have? I don't know. I gotta think about Tyler O'neil. We're going with the os. Tyler neil. You know, I actually took fat Dexter Fowler and a league because I think they might bat him at the top of the lineup and two years ago. He wasn't so bad. Now, I do tell our new house a lot of a lot of power potential, but they can't give up on Fowler. And I think they have to play baiter center don't they do because of the defense. The defense is far too important. I mean, you could slot baiter out against the tough Raitis. We're talking about a couple of minutes ago, but you do that at the expense of defense. And it's not like man more. We just didn't hit it all last year. Baiter hit for some pop against lefties and can still base. He crushes on the batting seventh or eighth. Yeah. Yeah. So all right, by the way, sixty six percent of men lose their hair by age thirty five there's nothing to do with Tyler Neil thing is when you start to notice hair loss, it's too late. It's easier to keep the hair you have to replace the hair. 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Okay. Kyle. Somebody must have a question. Sure. You actually mentioned McMahon in the last answer Andrews got a question regarding him Hamptons, the one that gets all the hype in Colorado. But as McMahon potentially the better twenty nineteen play where would you take a chance at raw string, both and hope one breaks out. Well, certainly Hamson steals basis. And there's not a lot of guys. Do you make a case of maybe ten players are gonna steal thirty bases. If Hamson got five hundred he could be one of McMahon's the power guy. I doubt the batting average will be high and we have to assume the Dan Murphy's not playing all hundred sixty two at first base. So I rather roster Hamson the McMahon, but that's not a reflection of I think is maybe the better player long-term. Yeah. Think McMahon's better with the bat, but it's the steals with Garrett Hamson that are driving this. And I am saying that the buzz is carrying Hamson to a price point that probably makes McMahon a smarter investment. They both have opened a lot of is in campus year. So they'll both make the team they'll both have roles. I think. Speaking Colorado guys question here. How do you think the DJ LeMay, Hugh to Lewinsky situation will look until de gregorious returns? Yeah. They are Yankees now. And I guess we should ask the Yankee expert what's gonna happen. Here does not playing regularly. I assume I don't know how they could and towards his employing short. So to Lewinsky has played well this spring. He's looked good. I don't care what the numbers say. But he's looked capable of hitting. Now, he may not stay healthy more than a week. But how can you give a may you? How can we project five hundred for him? I don't see how we can. I don't see how we can either. I think that the LeMay who signing makes little sense today. Did the day it was done because where's it gonna play? I mean, I get it when Troy till Lewinsky sits labor tours over the shortstop, but shuffling them between two positions as a regular seems awfully complicated. To me. I think the mayor's gonna find his opportunities four it of every six or seven games per week. And that's not going to carry an awful lot of fantasy value. It's going to be kind of that that that useful guy in the sabre metrically inclined leagues where he lasted until the last round your draft. And he is doing that. In a lot of the ones that I've seen Tillett sqi. It's a lot of power and a lot of case this spring. I haven't seen an awful lot else. Just looks healthy. I don't know why I would draft the Mayhew at all. And I always leading chorus field gets going to have a huge effect on his numbers. He has no power doesn't really run a lot. He was kinda just like a batting average only guy who scored runs because where they hit him in lineup. He's going ahead of others. Second basement catella Martin Laura's Korea who looks like he's got pop Nick L. He's in the minors, Adam Frazier. I think it's still twenty plus bases. Nobody wants lower Benz over Joey window who I love joy window, terrific. You're old enough for fantasy. They're all going behind and seems odd to me. Yeah. I mean LeMay you remember his strength is his glove and his patience at the plate. And these don't show up the traditional rotisserie five. So. Okay. Let's keep it going. All right L keeper league question. He wants to know your confidence level in the following three play players all very good. We've got Albee's Springer Bellinger. Can you rank them in profile? How confident you are moving forward. I think in ESPN ADP for this year. The order is Bellingham Springer Albee's. I know you're not draft list. Be scares me for two reasons. His second half was brutal. No power, no on base and Atlanta could just drop him in the lineup to seven three. Now. It might depend on Swanson what he's doing or if she wasn't even playing Camargo comply or Culver Sohn. But Ozzy Albie seems like a guy who you're watching April. And if it's not going, well, you're run away because all that power came in the first couple of weeks, and you know, he's not getting on base. And that's a problem. So my confidence in a keeper league. Now, it's a key. Cheaper. I think it's Bellinger, then Bellinger, Albee's spring. I'm gonna take Albee's over spring because I think I'll get it right and still basis and Springer seems a little overrated. Nobody average stolen bases. And to the point about Cirrus paces. He's twenty nine years old. So he's getting to the point where players start to lose step in terms of the base stealing ability. I think people think George Springer is younger than he is. And he's not that's one of the reasons I put them in the not on my team do not last you not draft Albee's. I agree with you about the second half was a concern Albee's. I just thought of it this morning his future. Career reminds me a lot of what Ray Durham's was a pretty good player, but not a superstar or an MVP type candidate. That's a good guy to get. And I feel like it's a little bit safer investment than what Springer has remaining. So I'm also going Bellinger, Albee's and Springer. Belgium seems like a safe thirty Homer guy for the next five years. Whether it's first base outfield can steal obeys better with contact. Absolutely. And I think last year was a bit of a disappointment for him. But the expectations were a little high. But I think you can count on power from him Springer. I think we've already seen as best than Albee's at least he runs Abby should bat. Second lands lineup. Looks good. And I'll be young he's twenty two. So he's got time. And that matters keep relate. You don't wanna end up. Like, I have a keeper league team like with Nelson Cruz and Chris Davis and somebody else who's only not young. And Chris Davis is an old. But like it's an old man like profile and thinking, well, I'm gonna lose at BELTRAN that team, you know, and I just lost him for nothing. I didn't trade him because I was contending. You gotta watch keeper like not everybody has to be on. But you so roster Nelson Cruz, but not everybody gotta have balance. I actually did have a conversation with somebody at tell wars. And it was a good point main here that in the true dynasty leagues that age is substantial in the rankings and the. Bellinger's Twenty-three Albee's is twenty two where Springer's twenty nine that is a huge impact. And I think people we surprised that our answer here because Springer's going really early drafts. And look it's a lot of runs and and power. But yeah that age he's a great player years. Great player. Very good player. Very all right. What else? I like I gotta draft coming up tonight last one, and I've got some over under for you guys need to know where these star players sit based on what we saw last you guys up for sure. Yeah. Always appreciate that. We had Charlie. Black many forty one homers plus steals last season over under that number this season. Under also say under Goldie hit thirty three bombs with the Diamondbacks last year over under this year. I'm gonna say over on Goldschmidt for thirty three homers and fifteen stolen bases to. And that's the thing. I actually I'm going to go under. I'm with Eric steals. I think they're coming back speed. I mean, you gotta take this point. Mike me stockists drives in over under ninety five runs. This season to match last year. Under. I like him don't. Yeah. I know you like him better than Travis Shaw. But I don't think either them knocking ninety five runs issue. Yeah. I mean, I think the smart call here is under. But I I like the guy. Yeah. Jamestown another guy. I know you guys like three two area last season. Does he do that? Again this year. I think it's better this year better. Yeah. That's tough one to go over under. I think it's better. And I'll say with great confidence. How is he top? Where are you putting them in the area title this year? I think he's top five in baseball. I I actually think he might topic case. Not on my top ten starting pitchers, but he's like thirteen or fourteen right? He's close. He's in. He's in the teens eleven to twenty and I have I if I have a feeling of anybody outside the top ten is definitely going to be top ten this year. That's probably the first go to if you're waiting on a pitcher. You don't want one guy the next guy. Who sees named a guy who thinks he's going to end up in the top ten starting pitchers. Yeah. Then the guy you're about to name is Mike. There. Jack flirty struck out more batters than Zack Wheeler last season happen again this year. Yes. For clarity flared easier Geyer because I'll take Wheeler. I mean, I think all three of the guys mentioned these last few questions have legit shot. S P one this year. I I agree on all three pitchers. But I I've I've got flared in quite a few places and I'm expecting him to make that earn Nola type Joe. Okay. I love that can be an optimist here. Eric is correct. On this one he will win that by a lot. I think the difference will be greater this year just three last year. So we're not talking. It's going to be -nificant. I think it's going to be at least a twenty five K gap between the two I just worry about whether flair to get the innings, but I'm I'm just about there being all in going over two hundred case for Florida. Yes. Oh, I like it. How many how many pitchers are you going to get to case? Like, I'm gonna get enough innings twelve. Yeah. It's the it's the innings that are going to be the problem. How many was it last year? There was a lot. Here we go. It was. That we sixteen have to go under that number this year, right? I'm. I'll go over. Wow. Okay. I think it'll be might be about the same number. I think it'll be at least at least fifteen so I'll take over break time. Over. I. I I think a lot of straight. Yeah. I'm going over. Anyway, this has been our Monday show, and we thank you so much for listening to it downloading listening. I don't care what the words are just we're trying to give you advice and information have some fun along the way our four some here of soppy how Cochran caravels quite a law firm. We'll be back on Thursday to to do it all again and preview the big game game and on Thursdays. Don't forget the base is not over only two games out of the twenty four hundred or so we hope you're brackets doing. Well, by the way, wanna wish positive thoughts for our friend, Tom. The intern who heads the end of this this week after some surgery times a great guy. And of course, I looked to see who's winning our podcast ornament challenge group and Tom is at ninety nine point eight percent rise in the lease car. Although I will say I am happy. I am tied for third in the group. And I'm in the ninety six percents. I'll and I'm looking at you guys. I didn't find it's come on. They don't comment and how you start you start. I am winner. I one and that's all there is to. I would talk with so many of the magic and is like what only one team only one out of the top out of a top five pick winners. The only job of the bracket. The matter. How you doing? I win this way. I'm winning. That's. Over over. I'm calling it over having awesome few days until the season starts Thursday. And let the continued to be awesome. And that's all for this. Awesome show. I'm an awesome day. Darkness.

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1:Pete Fornatele, Dick Powell

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1:Pete Fornatele, Dick Powell

"Sirius Xm ports presents with Steve horseracing becoming interviews this is who will stupid very good Thursday race fan serious nineteen exempt to a one sports night sixty four or if you're listening to Sirius Xm online and at our website as well Steve Dot com and I don't know even where to begin a after a draw day yesterday that has frontloaded just an insane gene weekend I and you know we knew and we were obviously focused on a lot of the BC type winning your ends and a lot of the discussion undoubtedly sadly today tomorrow will be in that in that direction however you're. You're not going to believe when you sit down. Maybe later tonight tomorrow. When you get ready for you know your weekend of play play and I think the weekend with Santa Anita opening tomorrow and the two great once the stronach five carryover as well it really the weekend kicks into the least I gear and little second tomorrow Saturday? It is is nuts. I literally have I'm GONNA guess two and a half inches worth of past performances to peruse and I know no I as I warned Tuesday and yesterday regarding the Fields New York I I knew to be brought it up with Indian. There'd be the usual cash Ri- about how the fields came together in New York but we knew we knew what to expect there and in some degree we got a little even better than expected the Vasbert actually ended up with a with a six pack and when I talked to Andrew Burn he wasn't sure that he could get more than four but he ended up with sex. Call Paul jumped in and and promises fulfilled ended up entering and there's really been no indication at so the Vasbert which to some degree agree you thought was going to be forensic fire and imperial and suddenly it got that much more interesting so group sex and it goes fairly early on the card and then the Bell Damon and the Jockey Club Gold Cup and rounding up horses against midnight visa who drew the rail it wasn't all that easy but there are five wildcat obviously a major player and Jackson who actually brought up Jackson with quite a few state runners the next next couple of weekends vexatious for in here as well and the recently claimed Crimson Frost Very Australia took from Aaron you go to for sixty two five and and she shows up an ear trying to get some black type certainly Australia thinking long term for his broodmare band. You've got another broad Taivon liven south human and Ron Lucci who contributed the as mentioned it was going to contribute to several several of the stakes. He's got spring in the wind as well a five year old mare the pilgrim as expected group nine of all all the things that could have happened for tuggle. I don't know if Jeremiah wanted the rail but that's what he got after we talked to him earlier this week so we'll have to negotiate in Louisiana will have to scoot early and gain position but most of the players that we expected in there there was that instructor that in fact Maya was a little nervous about with Chad Brown showing up I mentioned our country and George Weaver Brad Cox that anthracite that we discussed the other day and then the Jockey Club Gold Cup which oddly tenfold ended up running running in the Lucas so we lost tenfold from the the Gold Cup who seemingly going to be the fifth and Yoshida did not enter and I that you know when when Andy and I were discussing it he he had the impression you sheet it was i Andrew Byrne told me that they never came up so that's that was my that's why I was surprised that the suggestion Yoshida you might might run but Lucia contributes here with Olympic village although he's cross entered at at Churchill so I you know I I know people expect every every is supposed to have you know twelve horses I don't I don't know I don't know what to tell you you look through these these cards. It's it's amazing actually as you look around the country that there's as many horses in Saturday's action as there are at Churchill the act the Jeff Cup and the Lucas Classic pick which get nine eight and ten. They're gonNA run them. As the seventh eighth and ninth the Lucas Classic tenfold showed up there and as Brad Cox mentioned pioneer spirit running and of course you can't run pioneer spirit without running silver dust breath of course Mr Durant's silver dust with them. I it's unbelievable. They better end up at they better end up at at old friends together so they can run the fence line unbelievable pioneer spirit and silver dust but Sarangani showed up in here forget that he mitchell quip trying to get some traction Hachem who doesn't miss the dance so the Lucas classic the Jeff Cup for the three year olds going the mile in the eighth on the grass and interesting here Stanley with scars are cool track Smith as Joe Sharp told you Clinton Maroon comes right back for the catman after the the adventure last time and in the at the one mile how the sprint fast and how about how about Mr Darcy Mr Jager Meister and mister freeze shoulder to shoulder to shoulder so travis stone is is Mr Mr and more timeline first asthma sent unmatchable how about the Z. rocket and this is where Olympic Village is cross entered. We'll see what what what Lujan Babas and up doing with Olympic Village whether they run on a New York or in Kentucky. This is the tip I kid you not the tip of the iceberg because down in Florida you got the two year olds that rematch that we kind of heralded when we were talking with Saffy Joseph and he's GonNa try to come back with chance it and and Liam's lucky charm for Ralph Knicks. I'll send up. I'll put the link. Gulfstream's got that youtube page where they put all the replays you. If you haven't seen it you WANNA watch the affirm from August the thirty first I'll put that link up during the break there's also the wildcat air there's the two four hundred thousand dollar finales in the Florida for the two year olds and ten and and twelve in their the wildcat air also F- Tbo a money and the one mile three and drew a group of nine in as well then there's a series of of smaller stakes fifty and seventy five thousand so we're here we are in September. Gulfstream's got a big card. Laurel has got a terrific card. They're calling it. The September to remember turf festival type racing. They had the other one at the beginning of September the Anna rundle the shine again the Japan the Pant Turf Cup the Howard County and the phasing all along in advance of the tomato neom sale nice the nice super competitive fields fourteen in the all along eleven in the Turf Cup ten in the shine again. It's unbelievable and I'm when I tell you I I'm not. I'm not going to get to everything here. In the first segment Delaware has has got the governor's Cup Day and the the owner appreciation day those steaks have got nice bulky fields the things like the first State Dash and all that believable the Rosenberger and etc the Newcastle all of those steaks Laurel. It's amazing that Laurel and and monmouth is well and and Delaware Park could all put together these cards and at Monmouth you've got the finale of the match series the four stakes. It's really amazing amazing day of racing Saturday and I I think you're going to have to you're going to have to plot your course and lay it out and figure out where to pitch your tent. I I couldn't believe it every with every page I kept going to and seeing about the draws. I was like Oh my God l. Let's see have I mentioned Santa Anita. No I haven't Santa Anita of course the second day of the meat. You're going to be greeted with the awesome again and actually the awesome again with the McGee headliner certainly however higher power spins out of the the big win in the pack classic draft. Pick is back for Peter Martin seeking the soul went out there obviously get acclimated in and get a a spin over the surface Mongolian colleen groom and isotherm so six in the awesome again and rock-solid the Rodeo drive as well six and they're the phillies and mayors Murtha Recall Lisa World Siberian Iris Excellent Sunset and paved Michael McCarthy seems poised for a big weekend the John Henry the great feeding into the Breeders Cup turf and and they're interesting actually an interesting group and a few a few new faces so we we've got so much to do between now and noon tomorrow and not even I don't even oh how we're GONNA get for Sunday's action. The Oklahoma Derby the grade three. If you didn't see what went on at the Pillbox Hill box they're eleven and Brad Cox and Owen Dale drama far outside Florence Rue GonNa have to work out a trip and a very nice group for the grade three four hundred thousand dollars Oklahoma Derby Drifting West and view Magic Bank it asmussen The New York bred sleepy todd who haven't actually seen of late tax shipping now from New York and and horses that have come from New York have had a nice record go into this race funny guy more New York and New York bread so to New York breads out there for Terranova Regime Murat making trip to Oklahoma. Bring your passport regime and just chief Dallas Stuart Cairo cat mcpeek long-range taty asked me and then Muccio Gustavo and Owen Dale Oh really good really good Oklahoma Derby and of course the remington green that came up with Brad Cox Mr Misunderstood in there and quite a bit more looking at Lea- quite a few of usual suspects the the oaks came up short lady Apple Apple is is going to be very short in there stood him brings classic classic fit and gold standard for Cox she shiny as well. Jim Williams Jim Williams victims. You also have the gaylord in the Vance Sunday at Oklahoma at Remington really good so you know what we will get. We have to get to get married REPA- leamy. You can't can't bypass berry. There's the top line of Outlandish Landis action I- unbelievable the more you look the more you like and and you know there's there's two year old maiden races all over the place so I hope I I got a roadmap unbelievable. the match series is GonNa come down by the way to Miss Locus his point and Bronx beauty in the regret going the eighth Mama that'll decide the bonus monies these for everybody in the match and the match series again this year and be a tweak the formula. Maybe we'll get Alan foreman to kind of wrap things up up on the on the match this year. It's been a big success doing it sort of festival estimate days instead of having divisions run simultaneously several racetracks which is stuff to coordinate having them at the five different tracks in the mid Atlantic that worked doubt very well and boosted handle at at each of the tracks and it's been a upshur Allen. They'll go back to the chalkboard and try to make it even better one story and I'll bring Steve Haskins later. Get his opinion on it because it it it's quite it's quite interesting and I guess last week it. When the fairgrounds laid out their schedule it got noticed that they tweaked the distances of their Derby preps and the La Com from a mile and seventy two a mile and a sixteenth early in the year then the risen star in February sorry goes to the mile and an eighth distance and the Louisiana Derby a mile and three sixteenths really interesting and I it will see what I wanna see what Steve Thanks Marcus Hirsch Asia notice that when he got the the email I saw a tweet about it and some people had commented on it last week but it really really? I really hadn't thought much about it but it's it's really it's really different at of course the other mile and three sixteenths race on the road to the Derby Dubai a derby. We'll see we'll see what has can thanks. We're GONNA start it off with Pete. 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I know they'll be glad to see old friends equine dot org or call us at five zero two eight six three seventeen seventy five uh and now back to at the races with Steve Vic on Sirius Xm radio nucleic they will they found the proposed. Jason Kidd best way. We're back twenty minutes in. I you know I have just trying to answer a couple of questions on twitter so thus have been a media player update last leader last yesterday or the day before because I've had a handful of people little saying that they're they can't get the stream but the stream is up and and it's okay it might guests is that your media player had an update because whenever whenever this happens invariably. It's a media player update so I would go with that although if you if you haven't updated your this is always one of those announcements that is pointless because if you can't hear then you don't update your Media Player what would you do. You're doing it right. Get the word out there via twitter. You've got a lot of fans out there and even even if the person who's struggling to find the feet at the moment doesn't see maybe they're they're Powell will and be able to to let them know what's going on. I think that's I think that's the right. Move is one of the things that happened staff to over on our show some of these technological things we can't really help the good news is in addition to being a streaming product that I know so many people listen into driving around on Sirius. Xm They can also always go back and check out the archive on Steve Dot COM which I was true to my word and did last week Stephen got what's the catch up on some really great conversations including those with Marshal Graham and and Paul Matisse so there's more than one way to consume at the races. That's well usually usually case gets a caller to that. That's that's like the that's like the first flare then and then case would tell me and then I'll try to get the word out but it I asked Asia right away said it's a stream okay should yeah streams up and sheep extremes right in the studio so it's got to be on the Media Player the other option always whenever you have trouble like this you've closure browser clear your cache and reopen the browser and invariably that will take care Arabic and you know the other thing is a lot of people I I'm certainly guilty of this. You may go days and days and days with especially if you're on the laptop you may go days as in days and days without ever turning the laptop off and rebooting your own your own laptop and and so a lot of those kinds of things like like updates. Don't get you know until you do that until you close everything and and reboot a lot of that stuff doesn't get plugged in and I I. I may go took the meeting New York yesterday but so I did turn it off but you know I make sometimes go a week without without turning the thing off. I love those error messages. You know updates Wendy one. When do you want to try again? You know in an hour and the day hey I'm guilty of going. I think a month at a time saying try to nice try US tonight. I have had similar problems especially especially when travelling when you're on news networks it is a good idea to make sure you're fully updated. Get those starts going in like you said clear the cash you don't know how to do that depends on the browser but super breezy Google search and a Ken speed things up and make for much smoother listening experiences as well speaking of problems. There's GonNa it'd be a big problem. I I opened the show by just trying to give everybody a grip on the weekends action and there It's nuts I typically will doubt steaks and then there's a few places where you think again. You're not gonna get but the more I looked the more I had to end up printing out so I've got virtually everything and I haven't even mentioned the the Ontario. You've got the Durham Cop in the Ontario Derby at Woodbine the Saturday but it'll be. It'll be very interesting to see probably later today what holly short and Michelle Raven Crafts select as the races for the a free contest there is the fourth free contests tomorrow Saturday and abhors players of course and this is always a It's a crapshoot and five people will get. NHCD seats but it's free and the seats seat especially for the folks that got their tour membership through the beat big contest at the discounted price is really absolutely no reason not to go ahead and take this take this free role I it will be interesting to see I would imagine what do you think later today. They'll have those habits apple three typically they'll have they'll have some really nice raises choose from because even even beyond the snake action action. There's going to be in between there's there's some very good allowance. Races and field size isn't an issue I know people bowl groused about what what we ended up with in New York but we knew we knew there wasn't gonna be big bulky fields in the the Vasbert ebb which looked to be the the most narrow ended up kind of rallying in the stretch and ended up pretty good you know but there there's so many options for for horses that it it makes it hard and also the mile and a quarter distance of the Jockey Club Gold Cup part of the decision we talked about this yesterday and the option to go mylan quarter versus the mile in the eighth prepping for the the Breeders Cup classic so there's there's a lot of options and owners are always going to you want the the path of resistance for nature of the beast right. It's it's it's what about the sport that can be frustrating time. What horsemen's interests that owner's interest don't necessarily align with with with fan interest especially in the especially short term and especially at a day like this with would you know we've become so breeders Cup centric and it's great that we are in? It's one of my favorite things are as two of my favorite days of racing the year but you do see this where it almost becomes a little bit like regionals before the big final so something has gained a little bit something lost. I don't know I'm still really excited from from a sporting point of view to check out a race like this jockey club Gold Cup and it might not be scintillating from abetting point of view but it wouldn't surprise me at all if we can find some places to put our money in and from a sporting point of view and from a looking ahead to Breeders Cup point of view three-year-old divisional championship honours. I couldn't be more excited about it honestly despite the five of appeal so plenty of good stuff on tap this weekend well. Let's look back at last weekend and I've been waiting to talk to you to to recap the big one at Laurel which looked like it was a great success with a big attendants and some big prices and the players could have latched onto and up at the top of the leaderboard they certainly did including that you know that what kind of wild result in New York at in the nightcap you know where you had the gate issue and the non starter and all that and and you had a big prize at the end so how about a recap of what went on it at the the big one big winner with Tony Martin fifty one year old old retired groundskeeper from Lexington Kentucky ends up winning the Grand Prize which was twenty seven thousand plus the bank roll and and some seats as well it was nearly a full field they allow up to fifty seven in the context they ended up with fifty four Martin finished with a bankroll of three hundred dollars in the in the sort of unique big one format got the BBC and the NFC as we said the format for those that don't know if there were five mandatory races each day within seven extras chosen by the player Barton end up hitting the both of those Belmont Park late day long shop who were cert- the one who paid a hundred and thirty one fifty to win thirty four twenty two place and also so had Saratoga colonel returning a cool sixty one fifty and twenty six twenty Bruce Pratt of Las Vegas ended up second gets thirteen thousand five five hundred for that as well as an NFC entry and a Pegasus Feet Paulk here dose of Pennsylvania came in third with one hundred fifty six forty get sixty thirty seven fifty and H C and B CBC and then just around out the top ten of familiar names in here Howard Welsch Chris Paul Drafts Edward Right Sean Nolan Steve Harrison Howard Bloomberg Mike Mulvihill one of the Chicago one of that very strong long contention of Chicago players joy catching up with Mike at contest not the same as the Fox Mike Boorda Hill Different Mike Hill but very very sharp guy and and they also do a pretty cool thing for the big one if you're dual qualify for the NHCD as well the hill and Bloomberg already where you get five five thousand dollars in since you can't get the third spot so lots of good action happening down at Laurel in the big one this weekend nice and I I saw the Eric Wing had a big detail recap and one came from holly as well a popular one of the you know big opportunities talk about the high ratio and the opportunity to you know to to win in and they're still they're still a few more yet to Tacoma Tacoma the plenty of time although you know if you're if you're a regular qualifier and you haven't gotten one yet you you gotta get a little right little couple of bucks right. There's some there's some travel plans you might WanNa make to a place like Hawthorne which is Great Place to qualify for the NFC or take a look you know NPR dot com. We'll have all the opportunities and even more pressing than any C- qualifying Breeders Cup right around the corner one thing I'll mention I think we've talked about this a little steep but it's such a great promo. They're doing over at horse players dot com these he's no takeout Tuesday's you're looking for a little action early in the week and you also want a couple that with a good opportunity take some of those no takeout Tuesday feeders for Breeders Leaders Cup and maybe you can start your journey to the Breeders Cup betting challenged. I just think as I know inside information on this but I have a feeling that contest is I'm GonNa take a big step forward this year after everything they did to fix some of the issues with from two years ago I think everything's going to be onward and upward news coming down last week that the in addition to being able to play on express that you can also play on TV gee if you can't make it out to Santa Anita but that's scenario Mary of all get out there to Santa Anita. Hopefully we're going to have hopefully it's going to be a really satisfying and and great breeders couple. Maybe that's such a great job as the Ho- site out there in the past and it could be a nice way to sorta turn the racing calendar if you will I'm back into the onward and upward for for Breeders Cup and for for California race. That's the hope anyway well. We'll talk about the weekend Santa Anita Saturday and Sunday with seats available but low sow. I want to get the Los Al result in too because Jeff Ho- got up on everybody early and leaderboard invariably any California contest you're GONNA have a lot of familiar names and the competition level is is fierce. That's true everywhere but seems a California. It's particularly the strong but who took an early lead and just you know held them all safe from there. He wins a seat thirty six hundred in cash Steve Pereira second total of seventy two hundred dollars in prizemoney seventy two entries Dave Snyder. WHO's double qualified was third bike? Bob Is just an absolute perennial and of course the partner on horse bills and DOT com one of the one of the the really great handicapping minds he was fourth and who who else I see James Lee out how about my man James v Eddie Logan tweet representing low sal. I don't know what the equivalent of the of the Logan doc in sweet as Los Album both have really stepped up their game with contests in the last three or four years then then people aren't sleeping their understanding and even even folks like that who are used to playing in the Santa Anita events. They're going out of their way to get those allen. It's a good idea especially especially when you're talking about the winning seats. NASA well the it's not exactly like the logan which is kind of intimate a specialized but the vessel's club is the spot at low sow and invariably uh-huh our chairman basically holds court I on a nightly basis daily Ba- daily basis in the vessel's club with doc already. I didn't really wonderful room for those. That haven't been the vessels club has one of the great one of the great eight racetrack dining room scenes out there. I want to mention something to Pete that they did a good job by Orlando and the and the team because Danny Chevenez who finished you know I think the eighth or ninth Shabazz was ninth however he he gets a prize for the most churn I love the most money wagered in in the and that's terrific. That's terrific little wrinkle to give somebody you know the nod and a nice prize for having the journ love that idea we had a churn contact when we did the first of the world horse players tour events out at Santa Anita and I think I don't think we came up with the idea I think we probably stole it from Nate Newbie. UB So many of the good innovations in contests play come right from Santa Anita and big part of that is having guys like Tom Quigley and the newbie accomplished contest players themselves running the show they come up with good ideas like that that are that I mean it's to me. It's just the perfect combination of rewarding people who fire which is good for players and it's obviously also good for the house just to encourage people to really put that money through and not necessarily just sit on the bank roll and make their minimum giving people a little bit more of an economic incentive to be aggressive and something I'd like to see more of the contest where I'm and I'm glad to see La Salle picking up on it well you mentioned mentioned they and the team swings into action tomorrow of course with opening day but doc contest wise Saturday and Sunday to each at Santa Anita Staff Anita long market leaders news and great opportunity terrific day at the races and one of the best things about contests anthony days the hospitality nate and Tiki when the team do a great job of taking care players so I I mean. I wish I could get out for it it. This is one of those weeks where you know. Sometimes I talked about wanting to be in two places the one thing I really kind of want to be in in about four places at once and just to give you the rundown on it. It's the on the twenty eighth on Saturday the three two thousand dollar winning you're in challenge and then on Sunday the five hundred dollar opening weekend challenge estimated price value for Saturday eighty seven thousand was and and for Sunday's forty one thousand and you don't have to wait too long until the next opportunity out of Santa Anita towards the end of October October they're doing and this is a terrific idea the five hundred dollar last chance BBC BBC contest cell and then of course they've got their low rollers as well so if you are a conscious player Anthony to one of the best places probably the best place to habits home track. All Things considered what else you got pete for the week pass than the weekend ahead anything you see I wrote an article. I thought you might get a kick out out of about how yoga has helped with my horse playing. I wrote that for our friends over at at brisk that DOT com. It's a sort word of a it's been really fun. Jim Hill has allowed me to access this other club in my bag of writing these sort of personal essays if you will about my time at the track so I got I got to talk about some of the great some of the great meltdowns I've seen at the racetrack and even one or two I almost participated participated in and was able to keep my act together with just doing some some simple breathing exercises and then more seriously just getting to talk about for a horse player and and keeping I'm trying to keep that balance and not get too wrapped up in the moment in a game where we often lose win or lose by just thin margins is trying to keep the mind on the bigger on the bigger picture it was it was a really fun piece to write and I look forward hopefully doing more of that type of work over there for the the brisk snapped up betting guide and over on the website as well nice and that part of the game and it doesn't it it cuts across a wide swath of not just horseplay but any really any endeavor that is testing being mind and and the emotional most frequently I've had that conversation with Christian hellmers and with that you know unusual and kind of so teric mental mental aspect but it it it's very under under appreciated and under address and and that is keeping keeping your emotions in check and you know being able to either turn the page or or not get too too high and we basically it's not too high not get too low don't get flustered and and you know all of that so decisions instead of outcome that type of things I think I think for Christian it comes pretty easily. 'cause I'm not sure he has emotions well aliens. That's why they probaly. We try to figure out you know that that's what's going on in area fifty one eh people people disappear from burning man every year for that reason they get whisked away to to to Mexico amazing in concept terms we should plug we should plug the team keeneland context October Twelfth and Thirteenth. We've got they've got the they're the they're doing a similar format with a bigger a bigger money event I think at Keeneland it's the reverse of smaller money event is the Saturday and then the big money event is on Sunday. I'm going to be down and keenly for opening weekend so I'm not unfortunately unfortunately going to get to be there. I love to go for the contest weekend too but it is another excellent opportunity to win your way in to the Breeders Cup contents but not just that there's plenty of cash available as well and right hand in hand with Santa Anita in terms of hospitality. Jim Goodman in the team at keeneland do absolutely fantastic job without one. It's another one that folks that's worth driving a quite a long way to get to and they do the other thing about that. Contest the big one there they do sell out so players should if you wanna get there you gotta start making your plans. Now can reach out to Jim Goodman and he'll get your sorted out out but it's I mean keeneland chemo in spring and fall. It's one of those places I I ever since going back for the Breeders Cup have set to myself. I don't WanNa Miss It me here and I've been fortunate I actually I did miss. I did miss last year's fall. 'cause I had the trip to for the Breeders Cup coming right after it so I haven't been completely true my word but other than that I've been there for at least a weekend and it's just one of my favorite places in racing one of the great temples of the sport and an a mecca the contest players as well well and four on Saturday the twelfth and eight on on Sunday the thirteenth so a very big opportunity and there's also that same weekend on I know online horse journeys on that Saturday they've got one for anyone that has not one but entry restricted is something you you get some nice restricted company opportunities well. There's the ones that they'll be the one on later on to for those that have never that have never been hce that kind of thing and and here's one if you haven't yet gotten your your I seat for for next year and then you can participate so restricted company. It's it's sort of like the daily rose for those not wanNA sweepstakes the calendar year same here you gotta take advantage of the calendar and you can find it over at the NPR a website and be aware be aware of everything coming up. You don't WanNa miss a trick and miss the opportunity of you know. You're going to be playing an online qualifiers. You might as well play in the one that that favor you and it's a great opportunity to do so and you can find it all over on the website at the Dot Com national players championship beat have a terrific weekend and there'll be a lot to digest when we convene next week I can't wait. We're GONNA really we start the. I mean it's it's it's ramping up by the day the Breeders Cup fever and we're going to have a lot more relevant data points talk about them and everything going on contest tests wives from Santa Anita and around the country next week now and on that topic and certainly tomorrow when we talked jape ribbon and Dave Greg the racing form their Breeders Cup section opened yesterday with a series of articles as well L. as the grid that each of the each of the correspondence create and track the horses purses so if you're looking for the comprehensive list of of working probables the place to go and Steve Anderson Actually wrote a very interesting note to the to the turf and Steve always has the turf racing among the typically the Philly and mayor and the and the mile and after because of his international interests and he he's got the the story with with Chad Brown that bricks and mortar very well may angle to the the mile and Jadan and south climate monitoring that as an interesting interesting wrinkle to the start of the coverage at the dot Com and Mardi actually when we talked to Mari we'll talk to him tomorrow as well so Marty Greg and Jay Preben and we'll begin to cycle in we'll get everybody that is is covering all the races and that that's been a very fruitful approach the last several years let's take a break Dick Powell's GonNa Swing in and we'll talk Hong Kong and what went on Friday night into Saturday morning and what lies ahead as well H. 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Dick Powell joins US and coming off of the Early Action Chatan last week deck morning Steve I just went out and sat in my car and listen to you on Cari because that would love and yeah so back in the house ready to go excellent we had yeah we had racing shot ten over the weekend and and there's this weird trend that's developed. we talk about a little bit last week was shot as a as an all weather track and last week they ran three races and everyone when gates wire now the week before the last race went gate to why so that's four zero and then there was a second place horse that wood stalk second and then got to win. I don't Oh campaign so the last five all weather races shotton base over to raise cards were dominated by run torsten then I'd want well what you know what if the favorites that make the park while Saturday we saw seventy four dollar horse when the first hallway raise the daily show and then forty two dollars for us with our old friend Matthew Coon who brought in a lot among shots towards the end of last season he pardon forty two dollars to Jimmy Tang on the all weather going Ghaith wire and then care if teething one the ninth rates on the or whether as the favorite the only tonight and so that's an amazing trend on the all weather a shot just go to the front and dominate Khanate we'll we'll keep track of that. We'll keep looking around but shot in ten races and the the story of the night with Carris Keaton Eaton had a winner in the third race and he's got an officer Kayeli slow start going into this year's media we had thanks see you only had a couple of winners going into last week too and then suddenly on Saturday he calls them five one because he winds up winning winning races seven eight nine and ten eleven to one nine and sixty two one on favourite six eighty and then a twelve to one so just all of a sudden who from Mauritius is that how you pronounce the island off the coast of Africa or more or less yeah yeah. He's he's from there and he wrote very well last year at Hong Kong South Park quiet in those funny. I threw in a five bag. He's only when you have five beggar at Haagen. Sack firm Joe Moreira team gets back into the jockeys rights many followed that up on and what we last night so it's just complete that Happy Valley and that was an interesting cargoes another another card with only one phase of glinting now. This was kind of a form for car that just finished we had a fifteen dollar six forty eleven dollars twelve sixty seven dollars second choice ten forty eight hundred twenty forty two dollar bomb and then eight twenty excited they want as long as one's war on Saturday shot too but only one favorite one so in the last twenty races that Hong Kong was only two days it's Cohen and but I like how to the single digit Taipan sources of doing well not just what you know what his favorite in horses that are impossible to come up with and then when you get these eight to one ten to one shots that was a that was a playable those searchable and Nice Nice Mix at Happy Valley last night. John Mara was the lighting story with three wins rookie you at two wins and the trainer's the job now with the leading rider with twelve wins Zach. Pardon has nine and then Peter Hall has four Chad Scofield Bill and then casting with a five bagger last weekend. He's now up to eight so he's not a third leading writer and Hong Kong the Trina China's Tony Danny shown friend Francis. We all have seven no real changes. They have Doug like shut out so the a week a couple of guys wound up in the three so racing to be getting underway now hints the curb. I got up this morning and I can't find the fog. I'd usually the guys available six o'clock in the morning our time and then I downloaded printed out still working on the next day's races which is usually next Sunday but there is no Sunday racing at shotton this weekend. The next race card is going to be Tuesday and there's also no happy valley next week so the way the race cars have worked out way to schedule was worked out we have racing Tuesday at shotton and then grazing on Sunday October. The sexy shots for the next two cards are shot left him no racing this weekend and by Tuesday card and we'll have to clean stake races including the return current two times a year beauty generation who's GonNa be in the Celebration Cup handicap going seven thirty one. They'll probably Elisabeth Elisabeth highway that is not so much how much he's going to carry it. How big spread is going to be between him and the other content of the rights generation resuming resuming his season is one nine straight races? He's obviously being pointed for the lawn gene smile and December one of the big graces of the international testable that they have them early December and he worked the other day with horse name Arrow who John on more. It's very high on and they they work. Five fifty seven point eight two they were moving right along and boy said some interesting stuff the the thing I wanna see most of him winning abroad so I'm not sure what happened because not getting along so we ask the fact that it would be a sweet thing seeing him winning abroad especially a race like in new by now we by. They used to call it the duty free. I think it's not call Dubai TERP. It's a mile and eight to one term milem it 'cause similar to Woodbine long run down the doctor. He's used to running right in but I don't think that'll the initial so I think the nine falling within the scope and he's one of the highest rated horses in the world in Hong Kong so we get to see him coming up and another week and that should be fun missing him and then see where he goes from. They'll probably have another prep right to launch mile but there's there was there was a lot of Nice coverage this week. Hot Kong both the both from the the twitter feed but I saw from the South China Morning Post the the blurb comments from from job more and more Moore was quoted as saying it wouldn't be it wouldn't be the worst thing ever a disaster if he got beat you know he's not afraid he's not afraid of of having the the win streak broken so he he's you know he's got the bigger the bigger picture feature the bigger you know the big things down the road really focus so and the same at thorough who is very very high on kind of the sprinter than anything and he'll have a race coming up at once again. It's a prep for something else so it's not Orlando to win. That's not all to be a hundred cents for that race. It's a big picture type. Thing and more was very candidate in the comments. That's just reference what a bit of changing the schedule when I finally figured it out I at least stop checking every five minutes to see the form guidance up. I'm sure it'll be up the relation Tuesday maybe Saturday it'll be available and then I spent some time looking at the car. Nods we talked about last last week. The yes there is no money line but you can go to Hong Kong H K JC DOT com and then click on current odd and get the the actual odds for all this not just the next race and look at this morning before the nitrites run and looking the they give you the win odds. Give the place to give you all the pool totals everything else and you can do that twenty four hours before the rights of the stock so next Tuesday. If you WANNA check Monday night before you go to bed or whatever you WanNa do you get the actual update on real time and as we see in Derby and things like that racist big pools. There's not a lot of volatility. They kind of stay steady. 'cause there's so much money. Liam takes a lot of money to really move them. Some the odds Kinda hold up and they give you a little indicate about forces odds of changed significantly in the bedding and it's. It's just a fantastic tool here. It's it's better than an opinion of the morning line and factually of you know objective type data that they're providing played so that's something well worth using a nice feature that not not quite sure why it's not available all over the place difficult now. They know they've got they've they've got has many angles covered as possible and the the information that the offer I mean that's it's second-to-none deck appreciate it and next week. I think obviously there's nothing really happening. We might we might just do a a little quick. Check or maybe marry the two visits so we'll talk next week. Okay good actually appreciate it Dick Powell everybody. HK JC racing think on your twitter H. J. C. Dot Com quiet week. 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It is true on today's fine show. We talk about a certain top prospect in Toronto Mercifully getting the call up plus they're gonna extensive weekend. Preview plenty of relevant unfortunate injuries, perhaps a special guest chimes in later closers and myriad hashbrowns as well. Tristan? How are you today? Getting ready for the weekend. I share what an exciting weekend. Yeah. What does that mean? Okay. You know what? I mean. You know, what that means? We based all autumn in another country. Let's get to the buzz. All right. There's plenty of great content on ESPN fantasy you can find it. There is posted about Vlad Guerrero junior getting the promotion, finally, none of the stuff in the past of me. It's over he's he's up now for five months. We can we can presume he's batting third. He's gonna play every day. He's gonna hit. Well, there's an article from Tommy ran Rantzau scout look great historical. Look from you about all the players in the past who got in-season call ups. I love that kind of stuff. And I think everybody does. And then I wasted some time with my who I would trade for him. I basically rank in already as a top twenty five hitter. That's what I'm saying. Like, I put him in right? Where Juan Soto and Anthony Rendong rank in my rankings. I love LA Guerrero. Do you agree with that? I mean, six top twenty five overall player. Pretty close considering the state of starting pitching nowadays. I could see that. I don't have a major issue with it. I feel like you're scraping the higher end of his level of expectations. But I also love the guy. I don't want to you know. You know, kind of diminish what you're saying about that about putting them in the top twenty five. I think the upside is there I think there's a reasonable chance that he's gonna reach it. In fact, I'll geeky stat it for you. If you like for Vlad thanking stat of the day. Last year. If you take his full minor league numbers and nine point three k percentage only nine players had four hundred or more trips to the plate and had a lower strikeout percentage of that. And he in the process of doing that led the miners and batting average slugging percentage on I mean, not on base. And waited runs created plus and I went through and I checked fourteen years of the minor league stats on fan, graphs. And while I couldn't get the full compressed years of that with a four hundred plus as in the minors. I can tell you there. There couldn't have been more than five players who had better than a ten percent k rate and at least two fifty isolated powers extrordinary just like his dad. Yeah. And I think he's going to be fantastic the upcoming schedule not exactly filled with loaded pitching staffs. Oakland angels, Texas, Minnesota. The White Sox giants with their left ease the White Sox again. So I think he's going to be a monster. Obviously he's not available in many leagues. Or are. They up to ninety six percent roster, which is almost full. But I want to ask you. I mean, you you wrote about what you trade them for. Honestly, would you trade them? Would you trade him? Well, what I would trade to get him. If I had him, I wouldn't trade them. But like I mean, I would trade them obviously like a top ten hitter. You said to me Blad versus Jose Ramirez. I was just gonna say that name. I was just gonna say that name. I I guess I would rather have Ramirez to their rank and better. But man, I if I have latte, I wouldn't trade them. Honestly, I don't want to treat them away. But if you give me if you say Suarez who we rank really, well where REEs Hoskins we love. Yeah. I would rather have led. I know it might be crazies. There's not going to struggle going to struggle for a month. Like like Illo Jimenez that happening. I doubt that you would take Hoskins in a one for one trade of your I doubt that you would turn it down. I think you would you would take Skains there. I I might maybe in two weeks. But I I like the doubt that's being cast in here. I mean when we have to be talking probably only the top fifteen players the players ranking in the top fifteen of our updated rankings, which by the way, you and I both put an updated ranks this week. We're looking at a player like that. Otherwise, what's the point? Well, and we're talking about a guy who's roster and every league and nobody's going to trade him away. Anything about the other Bluejays around him. Justin, Smoak rental Grischuk there the power guys that should that fourth and fifth. Pretty gal was fat second. I don't want waste time on that. But like smoke in Grischuk. Would you add them preemptively because like their number should go up to? They they should because this is an upgrade to the lineup. Keep in mind that flat is taking the space of Brennan jury and juries production was nowhere near what the projections for grow. Our? So there will be an overall ofensive upgrade for the Blue Jays. The problem is if you apply it to the individuals in the lineup over the course of the year that never tends to range much beyond ten runs ten RBI. And even that because we're talking over one sixty two that's only for the extreme examples. I really wouldn't. I wouldn't put stock in the others. I agree with that looking at the most out of droplets. Clint Frazier the Yankees, the number one hair being added. But he went on the injury list yesterday. We'll talk a little bit with injuries a little bit later in the show as well. But your thoughts on Frazier. It's hard to keep guys roster. When there's so many injured. Level of concern here with the Yankees outfield. Whether it's Frazier young Carlos Stanton, Aaron judge was level of concern ranking eight at a ten I'm extremely concerned because there is no concrete timetable. That sounds like an optimistic evaluation for me. So I think these are going to be longer than they project. I mean, the fact that judges was talking it was talked about as we discussed the other day as a severe oblique issue. That's a problem. Stanton setback wasn't even related to the original injury that put him on the deal in the first place. And I hate to see that one injury potentially creates another one. So I'm worried about when Stanton's gonna come back. I mean, at least it was positive that Gary Sanchez came back to the Yankees. But they're really running out of useful parts. I mean, there's a reason they're signing guys. Like Brad Miller and Logan Morrison to minor league deals. They just don't have enough depth here. If you look at the opening day roster. They had twelve hitters on it. Six of them have already spent time in the deal. Let's go to some other names here. Authencity guys that are available and the player raider lasts seven available guys were not a new knee as of Baltimore Jose Martinez of Saint Louis. I see rowdy tell as I can't recommend him. Dan. He sent people wanna love Danny Santana. And I keep saying you don't any thoughts on any of these players. I'm getting questions on Danny Fantasma as well. He answered some trivia question for me a couple years ago. But the reason I don't like him. It's the guy just never walks strikes out of town. And we're usually not fans of that. And the other thing too is how just how many steals is he going to provide you and not a lot there. We're not Nunez. That's a guy who gets forgetting the nail only leagues they were committed to playing him regularly. They still are playing regularly. They're putting him in a prime lineup spot. There are worse things to have an AOL only leaks on a guy is playing. I was he was on my preseason sleeper list for twenty five home runs. And I think he's going to get there. What about the white Smith junior? That's third regularly. He's hitting for some power stealing bases. He shouldn't be doing these things. But he is and anybody who got third and us to say this is about my friend Rico, brownie knocked on one hundred runs just because where he hitting the lineup. What if Dwight Smith ended up like eighteen homers, seventy five RBI twelve steals? That's a top thirty outfielder. Maybe. Yeah. Because he's playing on a team that has reason to play them. Yeah. You're right. I think that there is something to believe in here, especially if you look at the underlying numbers he's making. Contact at decent amount. He's elevating the ball quite a bit this season. Which is a promising development. He's hitting the ball in the air. Looks like more than five percent is often as he's hitting it on the ground. That's a pretty good development for him. And he loved for Thai France and the Padres who raked and AAA has to play second for them because they have a first and third baseman. I see people talking about players like this like shut Michael Schabas and Boston tie, France guy who hitting the miners get a chance, but like most of the time it doesn't work out. I think shabas will with tie France. I you know, I have nothing else that second right now. But do you like them? Would you add them if it was a league deep enough, and he'd have to get promoted for me to do this? I don't think did Francis. Right. Right. But I mean like when there were people who are trying to make the speculative pickups before this. That's where I would have hesitated. And I'm still looking at the fifteen team mixed the NFL only for typhoons just because. Yeah, he's tearing it up this year before that he really wasn't. I mean, he's another contact oriented guy. But. I, you know, decent lift to the ball. I don't see a lot of upside to you is are briefly some other hitters here. We'll Eddie resort. Oh, hit thirty five home runs. We'll Michael Brantley Beth three fifteen all season. I'll say, no, I. Yeah. Nothing but three hundred three hundred Luke void Christian. Walker top ten first basement. The case who's the idiot. Who said that Luke boy would lead the American League's first baseman in home runs who has that. Moron. I don't know who that guy was. I did I predicted. That was the bold prediction thing. We wrote for the remember that. So you're gonna say, yes, I think they both could end up like if I said you right, Natalie. I don't want to do. On every show, but Luke voiding Christian Walker are clearly performing like Joey bottom aces Aguilar. This is the look void thing. And you've made I mean, we've made the Walker case planet we haven't for void. Void has what Aaron judge does without the elite contact. He doesn't put up the velocities the exit velocities that Aaron judge does. But he has that all field power approach and Yankee Stadium. That's extremely beneficial. He can take advantage of that that shallow fence in right center in right field. Raymond until up of the Rockies. Three homers. It's funny. I love it. Him or? Hungry. Fish nickname. Yes, right there with Mr. pufus shut it without blinking to. That was the best part rolled right off the Nick Marge. I don't know his last name of the fighters. An interesting topic yet. He cares. What's the difference? Some that you know, he belongs in that same sort of tier as Taif ranch. So we talked about before I think there is value in him so long as he's playing whatever point. And I think that there isn't as clean a path right now, he's got some utility to. I don't think he's going to matter in the PIN standard leagues. Hiring used to be hard multiple job sites. Stacks, resumes, confusing review process, but today, hiring can be easy. And you only have to go to one place to get it done. Ziprecruiter dot com slash Bill. Ziprecruiter sends your job to more than one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology. 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He went like three innings to lose that game against the Yankees are game that they should've won. It's clearly hanzel rollers for me. But I'm gonna take the under on like more than fifteen say's. I do think I don't think Cody on gets fifteen saves a season. Now, the oh, no, no. I mean coda Yellen needs to make some major fixes because this dates back the entirety of the second half of last year. He spent a train wreck since last all-star break. But I think clearly is awfully strong to describe this Bolton, I don't agree with that. In the slightest. In fact, I watching this game. I did not think that really deserved to criticize for this game. This was a bad luck loss where they asked him to. At eight outs. I thought what he did was pretty extraordinary frankly and rollers coming into just get that last out in a game where it wasn't even a safe situation or tie game at the time. I mean, when it's indicative of how Brad awesome great. I don't think pitching in the fifth and sixth innings lately. Tristen I I get that. But he still robots has been good. But what buttery is doing in terms of the command numbers the underlying stats on their best pitcher? I no doubt. If you made I get it. He might be Trevor made the way he's being used or like Sarangani is like a multi guy. I just I don't see him getting saves. I mean, I could be wrong today as oppose a meal, you're going to be right today. He's buttress not getting the chance today. Well, yeah. He pitched too much today or yesterday any concern about the raise Emilio pagan back toback saves, but he but the raise the not use either of their other closers still seems like it's Jose Alvarado to me and Indio Custodio, but that could change. Yeah. I agree with you. And. The beat reporters were saying that they felt that over one Custodio had been too heavily used early in the air. And now is the only reason Pagon got in there. They were trying to rest those two, but it signal that this is still a matchups bullpen Alvarado's gonna have a very hard time getting to thirty five plus saves. I agree with that. We have one combo meal. Let's hear it. I moved Jose Ramirez out of my top ten not far like twelve thirteen like, so I'm not really all that worried about him or door. But I mean, it was a one game or Jose Ramirez. Going do to you. You're not gonna duty did last year easy. Have to be ranked by us. This will. Well, yeah. Yeah. And I don't know that's a guy who I really should be diving deeper into seeing exactly what I feel about him. I I mean, he he kind of altered his swing to really go for a lot more power, and he's gonna have to trade batting average to do it. But the steals have got to be there. That's. Yeah. And I don't think he's stealing. I mean, I guess you could still twenty bases. Let's go briefly over the past couple of days. And then preview the weekend. Stephen mats that was obvious. He was going to be against the Phillies. If you drop them after the game where he gave up eight runs with Narain out. I thought that was a mistake. I. Stephen Matt's is a guy who's very talented. But health is always the issue. He gave up eight runs in the first any of the Phillies. I thought for sure he's outing on Monday was going to be a good one. And it was it was pretty much exactly as I predicted on this show. I now over the course it that's baseball. We set on the show. That's baseball. We did not say that he was going to have a game. Like that. We said that's baseball. Our why either cetera road that he was going to have six innings of two run ball. And he had six a one one ball. I look who has the advantage in a rematch ROY away either pitcher the did the data and that's a couple of years ago. He has actually the pitcher. So I mean, I'm not saying mass is gonna win a sun young. But I'm saying he'll make twenty-five starts with an era. Three seventy five one out. It doesn't change that. I mean, it changes here. But now he has to work harder to get it back. I like the ratio. I do question. The starts on us. You say you brought up the injury question with him. If he could stay healthy he'd be a much better performing pitcher than he's had in the tank, so far and then. We load. The next day was looked awesome eleven strikeouts. He homered. I mean, the Mets Mets can win this division. Four teams can win the he's that's amazing like legitimately. That's going to be such a fundraise. Don't throw it people's heads either. I don't care what they did to you. Don't throw at a hitter's head throw at his. But whereas legs his feet make up, Dan. If you wanna take three minutes to circle the basis after a home run, that's fine too. You know what I don't throw it as head Chris sale on Tuesday. That was good ten strikeouts. But only five innings. He's inefficient now too. The Chris sale experiences. Soaring to frustrate unreal. What is he we were? It was like a decade of knowing exactly what he was. And I feel like every start. It's something different this year. That's the problem is that each start has been different like they Yankee on the velocity there and nothing else was and the other ones. The velocity is gone. And the off speed stuff is there. This guy is maddening. But if you've got him, you keep them, you don't trade it. This is not a sell high or sell or anything like that. Like, Chris, Brian. I don't know if you saw I did I wrote it I think it's boasted Kris Bryant. These not hitting for power, that's shoulder. Still a problem. If you want to treat him away for seventy five cents on the dollar. I agree, but Chris sale, no affair. Yeah. I hate to give up on Kris Bryant this quickly. Because you and I did see that had he been healthy. There was great rebound potential. But he's not and you and I did raise this question. Very early in spring training. Is he going to be fully healthy the answer? Unfortunately, it's like no question on Twitter with Bryant trade it's Bryant and paddock for rundown and clubbing juror noting that he can stash clubbing during the aisle. Man. I don't want to trade away. I said to you who will have more value the rest of the year between paddock and clever. Say paddock cleven news out for two more months or something like that. Yeah. The the the length of time for cleven. She's a big concern. It's a good. It's a good upgrade the hang side. I it's a great upgrade. I mean, I just I don't see Kris Bryant hitting twenty home runs the rest of the season unless something magically fix. This is not like Matt carpenter last year. It really isn't. I don't think carpenter was hurt. I think Brian's soul. He can't even hit the Kim. Pull fastballs. He can't catch up the fastballs. Now granting my Homer today. But I just I don't see it happening. And it look if he changes like Carbondale last year was wrong. Again, I'm wearing a lot. You know? Why why are you listening to this show if I'm wrong all the time carpenter? Okay. But carpenter ties to the rant. I had the other day about the level of patients that's required and in a standard mix league, you cannot just sit onto dreadful months, if you're fifteen teamer or an animal only, I get you know, I haven't been in a shallow league. And I'm just gonna sit Bryant I mean, it's not hard to find a third baseman. I'm sitting Brian for Renato Nunes. It sounds ridiculous. But for now don't you have to if you need power, especially if you're maximizing daily matchups in our game. That's. Tailor-made situation for that. If I told you that Chris paddock and Mike saroka and up his top thirty starting pitchers. Would you laugh? No because I I'll bite on the Roka being able to stick in that rotation that I'd I would question the the playing time more than ten sirocco could be Atlanta's best starting pitcher in this year. Yeah. I don't I don't think there's really much of it to be where is he exactly for you? I think he I think I had him thirty fifth or so among I don't know if I ranked him well enough, I just injuries. I just some concern that he's not going to be twenty five starts paddock is. I would rather have panicked sirocco. Well, paddock could have the the innings gap. He could unless they're contending the not gonna stress Burgum. Briefly the preview of the weekend. John Lester Seth return today from his hamstring injury to face the dodgers, you do not want him. But. Lusters back. I mean, we don't get Tyler chat would experience in fact. In fact. That's where you're going. I had no idea. What clear I caught you by surprise. You know Tyler chat would six innings strong ball just wanted to on record. So in post generations, come back and listen to this podcast generations about today. You think Tyler chat would tristen because he is. I think Tyler doing lost her. Well, you're not alone. There. I told you Tyler showered makes twenty starts for the cubs this season. Oh, let me as numbers. Oh, jeez. Four fifteen air. That's being maybe too optimistic because that's all you need to say ESPN. Plus that it has Trevor baron Garrett. Cole check that out. That's going to be a good one. What else today? There was something else today that I wanted to say let me see if I can find the actual schedule and tell you that we're wasting time. But you know, as anybody care. Oh, taylor. Her making his debut for Texas. Can't use him at Seattle Hearn is a homerun suppressant guy and Seattle is a home run. What is the opposite? Homer. And encouraging please report pitching today. All right. Let's get going, by the way Hearn. The hearn. Keep it up the part that scares me just a little bit about Hearn is that this year in AAA. He has been more fly ball oriented. I agree with you that what we saw at the lower levels was interesting. He got ks missed bats. And he kept the ball down isn't doing it as much in the high levels Friday night. Vlad homers in his first at bat against Mike. Fires. I put right. He's not taking a pitch. I wing unless it's over his head. And even then he might be able to even I don't think he's exactly like his father in that respect. He he makes a lot of content. I mean, his father did too. But I don't know. I, you know, the number. I said before you wanna talk about his father that thing about sub ten K percentages and two fifty plus isolated powers as father. Did it twice? They are very similar on a believable player. He's going to be awesome. Do not use. My fires this weekend. Toronto probably ever. What else? Jake degrom. We'll talk about a little later. Jason Anderson might be Milwaukee's rotation GIO Gonzalez could be in their rotation as soon as this week. And I suppose I wrote today, and I know you read it that GIO Gonzalez could Milwaukee's best fantasy starting pitcher. Now the rest of the season. I loved Woodruff. It's not going. Well, I love Peralta that went poorly. I loved Corbin burns. Clearly, I've been wrong about Milwaukee's rotation. Jokin Zala is not special, but every year, it's like a three sixty year or a, you know, he strikes out eight per nine. That's okay. He's. Arable? I get I feel like you're offering more of a criticism of the authored. Yes. Well, I am aren't you. Yeah. And I don't want people to get the wrong impression as a result of that. I don't I don't think GIO Gonzalez is that great a pitcher these days, and I don't think it's a good ballpark form. And what I worry about here is that they could go with that bullpen oriented pitching staff where they do a lot of openers. And they do a lot of short and outings. They were time last year. I think tristen where we ranked jobs Oz as a borderline top forty starting pitcher to refocus false. I disagree. I fear. Yes. As recently as last year. He is what he is. And that's okay. Like, you can take your chances on Carlos Rodion or Tyler Skaggs or Danny Duffy. But you kind of know GIO Gonzalez is I'm not saying any degree of upside here. Okay. But there's also no downside. He is fine. He is a three sixty year Ray one Twenty-eight whip. And if he gives one hundred fifty innings at one hundred and thirty strikeouts. He should win on that team. I just think you know. He's better. He's fine. That's it's not it's not a ring endorsement, but he's fine. All right. So there is down side. You can get him now in labor. What are you spending out of one hundred fab well me, I've always been half on. Kevin you have you have one hundred fab take your own context out fifteen twenty. Okay. So the downside is you throw away twenty fab. Downside. I throw I threw away two dollars. I'm Brian Reynolds. Like, there's downside of one anybody gets available at this point. But there's I bet yoga zealous goes for more than twenty dollars in labor to your point. Okay. I I'm stake in I had him thirty ninth to begin last year. Exactly, look, I'm not wrong. I'm trying to prove that he's a usable fantasy option. I I like accuracy. Sorry. I was mistaken on that. I don't remember how I felt on opening day last year. But you felt like I don't want to draft this guy. But he's usable. That's how and that's totally fair Saturday drawing. Snow at Atlanta, Fulton Neville, you like better residencies and John grainfields. It's a fair one. That's a great question. I I think I'm going to go with full Turkey. I feel better. Oh, yeah. And I do like gray. That's that's a great question. Oh, I'm here. Are you on board? You joining me. I do I have been impressed by John gray. Yes. Good on the road. He's looking like a legitimate road. St. He looks like he's turned a corner, but it is still April. I want to see a little bit more. Should he be Rauscher nor leagues? Yes. John John gray should be rational leaks. Surly more than you Darvish if you want to go that direction coed he's talking to my Rex pretty quick next year. You'll ask me did. I have you Darvish in my top forty at the beginning of this year. Did I definitely did? Not. I definitely I would rather have Gonzales than you Darvish. Wow. Wow. Why are you messing with you harvest? Tyler chat, would are you? Okay. That's the tough one. I'll take I don't know what we're betting Darvish over GIO Tyler chat ward, or John Lester tonight who you have to start one. Who's it going to be a lesser? What you hate John Lester, John lesser is the same as yoga every year the same. But my point is I'm not using him tonight. No way. No, no, no, not against Enrica. Right. Exactly. That's the problem. Value reporting. That's like the Mike trout of the lineup against lefties. Oh, jeez. But but I'm just saying like people hate on. Molester and GIO like they're better than you think. They're fine. Okay. Derek Holland is the same now use fine. I know you don't ranked their how well or at all or J hap. But these lefties they are consistent. They are now durable. They're reliable. John lesser is not going to win twenty series is not going to be blue three fifty and a strike rate keeps dropping, but he's fine as your fifth or sixth daughter and your point here. Applies brilliantly to any league that is deeper than our standard game. Yeah. Because playing replay in those leagues, but but that's the thing and a lot of people, and I'm sure many many of the listeners do playing time matters that deeper the league, and I'm gonna lose vampire again this week barely, and I don't know how I keep doing it. But you win at your first place in your league after three weeks. No, no. I'm not at first tired of you winning these leagues I hired of you winning first place. He's not in. I maybe we should switch trista into take over Eric's team. And see if you can back Eric is so bad that we needed. Bring interest fixed. And then you get trysted with you too. Your own on Monday. Baseball ever so briefly with the crew Carlos Carrasco. It says here he's making the start against Wade Miley if Carrasco. Makes the store you gotta use them. But that was he left his last start with injured knee. I. ESPN? Plus, you know, who's underrated Trevor Williams. This is the whole underrated show. Trevor Williams has a third best era in baseball since last year is also break he can say he doesn't have the stuff. He doesn't throw hard his fifth is twice as high. Trevor Williams keeps pitching well every outing just and he never gets lit up, and nobody wants them as a matter of fact. Yeah, he's five for five in quality starts. It's what you're never going to rank in. Well, because you think that like these the inverse of Nick Pavetti, Nick prevented never has numbers that are going, but his fifth is great. And Trevor Williams does the opposite and nobody ever wants to Ross for him. And you know, what that sounds like a blog idea that for next week? This is fair. Now, I'm gonna make you put a number on them Trevor Williams. Yes. Four yara. We don't have that has never give me give me the fantasy value point for among starting pitchers of over and over GIO Gonzalez. John, Lester, okay. I don't give me that like top forty starting pitcher Trevor Williams. Yes, he should be ranked that way this is enough of a sample. It's it's not just April. And it's not just last September. It's he's proving that he can out pitches. Peripherals my brain stops to think for a minute, which you don't agree. No it validates the point. But Trevor Williams has got to start missing more beds for me in order to make me believe that he's going to do this all year. You're right. It is it is a lengthy strike out guy. I'll give you that is. He light Kyle Hendricks his his ear reysen less season started. According to Kyle is that right three oh three era and a one point one four with since the beginning. So this is a year and a month. I don't know what more you need to see. I don't he's got. I mean, he's got. Hey shouldn't be re caper not. Okay. Yes. And if you rostrum and a ten team league, you're not gonna win strikeouts. Unless you've got sure or Enver Lander. So he he's Hendrix. He's hendrix. He's saying how a hindrance was ranked as the top thirty starting pitcher all last season. Well, he's struggling. However long Bill, but Kyle hitters did this for three years, then we're gonna wait until two thousand twenty to say we were right about Trevor Williams being bad. He's bad bigger point is fair on that one. But it always seems to come back to bite these guys. This is the Kyle Freeland problem from last year. And granted, yes, I know cores pansies whole different environment for him. But it comes back to bite these guys. Eventually naturally scares me. You can't be mean to Trevor it's his birthday today. Wow. Is it? Yeah. Yeah, we're happy. Birthdays moving up twenty spots. All the pub on the podcast. This is the turning point in his career right now. I XE turning point not be for good. That's don't say that. Let's stop talking and plays the music and the hash Browns. You wouldn't settle for a two star spin class a personal trainer, would you? So why settle for Bank that treats you just like another number? Ally knows you deserve better and their mission is to be just that. And with ally Bank. You'll get interest rates up to twenty times the national average you can chat with real people twenty four seven, and they won't nutmeg you with hidden fees allies team actually cares about doing right by you and your money so go to A L L Y dot com for more ally Bank, member FDIC. I don't know why I've arguing with you today. But I I, you know, you guys do you guys point out how bad I am at fantasy for so long before it starts to get to me. I mean, like white place. Are you waited labor NL Mr. ibew terribly in my leagues come on? I'm in I, but how much I'll blow it why how much are you? I I will bet you money that in labor. I will finish in second place. We're Steve walking his dog. I'm going to finish second. I get the field. You get second place. I'll take that. Obviously, I'm not bad at this. Like doing well in the in the in the vampire league is almost impossible. Like, I I'm using such bad players like it's different in the points lead fittest. But let's get to the questions before we have maybe a special guest. Matty wants to know if Dwight Smith is a real deal he's been hitting to get things going, and there's really nothing to concern him about it is there's something there or what are you saying? I caught up reading a few questions at once there. Let's just say this bright Smith someplace or nothing is he what's the what was the drop with buying a bottle? I'd or Bonifazio feeding. I it's time to. I believe it's bonafide. I'd say really, correct. Allays right. If I said that you that if he gets five hundred and fifty P as which seems pretty likely because Cedric moans was awful Dwight Smith five fifty p a sixteen home runs seventy five RBI eleven steals. That's fine. Actually, that's legitimate. It's lower than what I said a half hour ago soured of bit on the stock is on the rise. I'll make us our more on them what eighty seven point zero average exit thirty miles per hour. That is that's bad. Thirty point three percent hard hit percentage that means the ninety five plus mph hits that's pretty bad. But he'll knock in run. Just batting third. Four point one percent barrel rate. That's like a pitcher. Well, quite like a pitcher. But I don't have a problem with your projected numbers there. They have reason to play if you play enough you can get eighteen homers and seventy five RBI. That's what I'm saying. I'd rather have run out on Nunez, but they both will do it. What's next don't want to know if you can cut Garrett Hamson in favor of Eric's favorite player, Danny Santana at this point? You know, my favorite. I bid on him in tau there. It is there. I did the dumbest thing in town. I did the dumbest thing possible. I looked at your tongue to a polar. No second second possible. I went with matchups on a gun pitcher. I had I had the ability to bench a couple of guys in a lot of injuries enough pitching staff and offense, and I picked up a pitcher against Baltimore earlier in the week and the second out like a good one too. And he got obliterated Yvonne Nova. That was dumb. Oh. But I thought oh against Baltimore. What can happen and the other outing this weekend who's against the team whose Baltimore playing this weekend. This soda. I was like all right. Yeah. I could use the fifteen strikeouts. And maybe a win anyway. I just don't think Danny Santana keeps the suburb door comes off the deal this weekend. But you know, what I am cutting Garrett Hamson trysted, and it's not going to happen. It's just not he has no repower. He's not detail may you he's not going to play. Now Dan Murphy's off the injured list and they're play myth manage set. Ryan McMahon's better player. I'm cutting both of them cut Hamson and Santana and somebody better. Yeah. Let me tell you who. I don't I'm serious like you want a middle. Infielder. Why is Brandon Lau available in sixty percent of the league's? That's just dump Tucker pick up Thomas Stella is going to finish the season. If they keep playing him everyday second base he'll bat to seventy five the rest of the way, maybe not with power. But he's got six home runs already. Tommy was Stella there's mainly takes back. I sat next to his brother on a plane. Once did you really? I did. Yeah. How do you know that because he told me what's next? Listen on today show, Caleb notes it Yossi. Oh, we struggling in a big way. He wants to know what your outlook is for him long-term. We're talking keep a leaks. I don't know why people invested. I look I probably ranked him too. Well, but I was never on board. You can vouch for that never reporting. And he's he's he is what he is. He's he's very streaky very emotional. The stolen base thing is not a thing to sixty with twenty two home runs. That's awesome. If you want that. But you know, what the white Smith might might might end up higher on the player Reiter than yes, you'll tweet. I'm not saying I would rather have Smith, and I wouldn't do that. I wouldn't Cup for Smith. But I'm not going to be the least bit surprise if a. If a PA guy like Smith just has better from the fantasy numbers. But no, a bold prediction is. Yes. White Smith is going to out out point tweak. But but but in a keeper league, I don't think you'd begin to make that case. No. But I don't want gonna keep relief because it's not going to get better. Right. It's not getting better. This is what he is. And Cincinnati will dump them soon to someone lesser, and he's just he is not what you're thinking is people. He's not a top thirty fantasy alphabet. I'm sorry. So the only way I've led anybody to keep her league is if you listen to me what four years ago where I believed in him stupid. I believe too I used to but I haven't for about three years. And if you listen to either us, you don't have them this year, and you don't have to worry about this. But guys, I prefer probably in that range for a keeper league nNcholas Castanos. Oh, are they even in the same range? Tristen? I rank Kessler also fifty points higher than point. Well, so did I, but but there were people drafting at one ten I do recall that that was ridiculous. He was find out on the most adults. I'd rather have them que- Mazari. Yes frazier. Yes. Fraser clinton. Gregory polanco. Now that tells you something because I'm not a fan. Yeah. I don't have a problem with that. Either jock Peterson. Jocson tough one. Yeah. Santana, Adam Eaton. Not on a keeper tweet British thirty say the word keeper Harrison Badir. Yeah. Harrison baiter with the next name. I was looking at. I'm thinking about that. I think I'd do that. I'd take better. I just is not a top Winker outfielder from me. The now or keepers. Let's read something here before we move on. This show is sponsored by Seekie wonderful people at seeking to ticket industry has not changed in a long time. There are bunch of big companies who have been around forever, but they don't really care about making the experience easier for the customer, well seeking because a ticket company where the customer comes first with more than fifty thousand five star reviews in the app store. Seek is focused on making your experiences. Easiest boss seeking pulls in millions of tickets from all over the web rates each deal on a scale of one to ten and displays them on interactive seat map. So it's simple to find. What you're looking for green? Dots are good deals red dots. Overpriced Matyas point plus every purchase is fully guaranteed. So you can shop for tickets with confidence and best of all listeners to this. Awesome show. Get ten dollars off their I seek purchase. That's awesome seeking supports our show. So we hope you will support them as well. Use our promo code F f. For ten dollars off on your first purchase. You can use that for concert tickets, sports, comedy, whatever you want. Remember that's promo code FFB for ten dollars off on your first purchase. All right. What are we doing next? Kyle vandalise wants to know if there's any reason not to just deal. You're strong bats for strong arms and appoints format. Well, I mean, an ace can win you appoint sleep unless they might trout. Mookie Betts camp. But tristen when you get a season like Cole holded last year or Mike Fulton Neville to throw a name out of the top twenty or what Louise Custodio is doing. Now, those guys win points leaks. So I don't think that this is a great strategy. I mean, you need to fill your Ross way fill it. But strong arms carry you, don't they? Yeah, they do. And the only way I can say no to this question is if you're league has an unusual scoring system because everyone that I play in values elite starting pitching, and you need to grounding your point sleep. Yeah. Don't ask silly questions. I know how many chicks. That's that's not a thing. Either. I already told you I'm going to second labor. I don't know who's going to win. But it's not gonna be. I'm well, let's say the gap has narrowed a little bit this week because we didn't have any to start pitchers, but yum leading right now, I'm actually not looking at the labor standings except on Sundays. I've decided it's not worth it. I know who I have. I can't bid on anybody mid week. I wait until that's my discipline in that league waiting, and I wait until Sunday when I need to pick it make pickups. See where I am. I know if I've had a good or bad we standings matter on April twenty fifth. They don't matter. No now after Labor Day. Are you not checking it every ten minutes September? After Labor Day, ten minutes. No. That's not me. I want to win. But it's not gonna help you check this phone every ten minutes. I check my phone. Well, I see if I get a text. And you know, what I'm like, yes, I'm trying to wait every top and bottom of the hour. Let's think of nuts. So why are we talking about? That part is might be my favorite Eric cork of all time that is phenomenal discipline. If you can pull it off and watch me when I see you next week in bucolic, Bristol, Connecticut. Eat a third of a cookie can't wear. It's different. Because like, how do I see it? You know? Yeah. So just one nine hundred by a cookie at the calf on Tuesday launch. And I'll eat a third of it. I will bring my little baggie. And then you will see the third of it after dinner. Okay. I'm gonna get like arrested for something. Like, this is ridiculous. Why are we talking about air where sit for your cookie? What do we do? We have a special guest redo defined. You is here. She's going to help us answer. Frank's question. Reporting around the Degar degrom injury has been murky at best. He's wondering what he can do. And how it looks the outlook the rest of the year. Well, if only I could predict the future, I would tell you what's going to happen. But there's a couple of things that I think are really important about this case. And I listened to the podcast the other day when you guys were doing the whole injury wrench down. Very sorry. No. It's just it kick it that part of your life back. Can I want to because I learned a lot? But, but Eric I heard you be if you were very nervous about to Graham, and I understood why at that point because that was Monday before we had the visit that he had with Dr David all check who is the medical director for the Mets. And I think it's really important is why we talked about nothing. No to things being the same. You hear elbow in a pitcher, especially in ace throws hard. And when he's had Tommy John surgery in the past. I understand why everybody goes into panic mode right away. But I'm gonna tell you all the reasons why you shouldn't panic and why I think this was much to do about relatively very little if you consider the fact let's start with the fact that he had strep throat when this popped up he had full body aches and his elbow was sore. He talked to reporters about being thrown off his routine, and he doesn't like that. He said things come up when he's not following his routine. You know, how pitchers are? Are very much creatures of habit. So he was trying to get some throwing in despite having strep throat. I don't know if you guys remember the last time you had strep throat, but it's very similar to flu in you get join T body aches and really uncomfortable. So doesn't surprise me that his Elba would be bothering him. Then the key would be as started to feel better that the elbow change will. In fact, it did. And I think that's why when Mickey Callaway talked initially about okay, he's going to go and get this summer. I you know, he was feeling so much better within forty eight hours. They were like, hey, he doing some light toss. And maybe it doesn't need memory. Now. They ended up getting one and they didn't see anything. I think the words where it came back clean. But let's talk about that for a moment. MRI's are not clean in pitchers period. Right. They got stuff, especially when you are thirty years old you've been pitching as a pro for a number of years, and you have a history of not only Tommy John surgery, but a second. Procedure to do an owner nerve transposition, which is where they moved the nerve when it's causing your attention often after Tommy John surgery. It's usually when you hear about it a few years later scarring around the nerve start put some tension on it guys get symptoms into their fingers. They go in and they basically moved the nerve release the scar around it and that takes issue which it did for him. So when you sit here clean MRI on a guy who's had all that. It means that it's relatively unchanged. There was nothing dramatic about this MRI relative to what it usually looks like, and you can really trust the opinion of Dr all-czech here because this guy has seen Grimes elbow since the Mets drafted him. Think about this in physicals. What guys are going to be drafted? They're looking at imaging studies. Then he saw the inside of his elbow back in two thousand and ten when he did the. Tommy, John surgery. He saw the inside again when he had to do the owner nerve transposition before they signed is one hundred and thirty seven million dollar contract in the five year contract. He did in March before that all happened. They did imaging again to evaluate what they were signing up for and so that was relatively recent. So when you look at this Emory, it was in relation to all of those things not to mention the conversation between the athlete is surgeon who he knows and trusts and the discussion about what happened in any physical exam that he did in the room. And the reason I tell you all that is because that context is really important to me when I think about how worried I am or not. And I'm not worried now before you say oh. Let's be honest. He's going to be thirty one this summer. He's got a lot of mileage on his arm any has a history of surgery, and he's pitched on this graph says two thousand ten so it's held up pretty well. But you never know he's a pitcher. Of course, there's a risk for injury. But I don't think this episode makes me anymore worried about him than I was before it ever popped up. I think this was a speed bump related to his illness more than anything else. And if I had the opportunity to put him in my starting lineup this week, I with of course, you're not visiting. Also, we didn't know the information of the time. We would have locked the lineups. Right. I mean, unless like unless you are sitting on daily, but right? But in the ones where it's weekly where we were ranting on it. I know for me, I didn't have the full knowledge going on. That's the way I forgave you off the top for being about it. Because I said you didn't have this information on Monday morning. We didn't have the information about his visit and the results of the latest MRI until Monday evening. I would I would argue that they probably felt they didn't even need to do number. I which is why that conversation came up and look look at Clayton Kershaw when he did not start the season on time because he was having issues. He did not want him. Ryan the dodgers chose not to get one. And some of the players who have been through things Inder stand that you're not necessarily going to find anything, and they don't necessarily want to go through lying in a tube. Burp a couple of hours and going through all the testing if they know that they're feeling okay? Or they think it's something they can work back from. So I know that people get. An opinion. Oh, how could they not do? And I'm right. They probably would have been just as comfortable into grams case if they didn't have one, but I would bet that there was a conversation. Like, look, we might as well, just take a look just to make sure there's not something. That's there that we should be aware of. And if there isn't it's just more peace of mind for you that nothing has changed. I personally hate being wishy washy about my feeling about it. But I feel a lot better today. Knowing what we know that I did when we tape the last show, but I mean, so funny you said like you said strip strip is awful. It is awful. I've kids I know what it's like it's awful you've mentioned before. And what worries me just a tiny tiny little bit. And I guess I'm not you know, panic is that when a player does try to go through things, and they're off the routine that it can lead to other issues. I mean a Yankee fan I'm looking at it was young Carlos Stanton with the whole separate injury into grams case like there is still is the risk that he could cause problems by being. Office routine. No, well, it was for such a short time. I mean the longer the downtime the more concerned, you are right. Which is why we always talk about these guys who if they if they miss a start, and they're not really losing too much time. Throwing we don't worry that much worse. The guy goes on the dealer, you take Severino, for example, where you're shutting. You don't pick up the ball for six weeks? And you say okay, now, you're going to work your way back you know, that they have to build that routine backup as part of getting back to pitching to was throwing even though it was just catch initially. You just want to go out and say felt but I think that was like thirty six hours later. So he even though his daily routine was altered for few days. It was a relatively short time. And that was important he had to get healthy after all. But once that cleared up he's back throwing bullpens and doing his thing working his way back to get ready for a start. So it wasn't a long enough interruption for for me to be. Be particularly concerned. Fair enough. I think based on look Tristan, I did not remove Graham from our top three starting pitchers, even with all this uncertainty. So we could name game. But it would be a short one basically be versus Chris sale or Verlinde or sure Zor, and that's about it. And not. I mean, that's about it. So so find your thank you so much. We appreciate it as always. Sure. As next week. Yeah. Looking forward to next week in Becali, Bristol, Connecticut. Anything else? We gotta do today show fellows. We don't we talk. We could be silly. For an extra ten minutes. I feel like Kyle anything left talking about fanatic made his debut nineteen seventy eight on this day. So that's kind of big his birthday today. Yeah. This weekend is big birthday celebration birthday celebration. No. Can I say Fred who's friends Fred his or his nephew my showed up once? Fanatic or was that his birthday party of the Fred showed up, and I'm sure absolutely true. I bet you Philly fans will jump in here. Fred fanatic. I believe it was his nephew. He showed up at a game. Wow. Who knew that they're like relatives? There's like a lady fanatic whose dressed mother mother from other. She wept me in the head with her purse. Once true, absolutely true. Once you've had a lot of encounters. I'm lovely fanatic. Mrs fanatic. Mrs fanatic, NADA Tristan fan. Oh, she's not a Fatemi. Now. She whacked me in the head with a purse. She probably lost chance. Yeah. I don't know. He's been a second and a fantasy league the Tristan. He came from fifty points behind in the last week a disease. That's right. I beat her in vampire Li little personal there. No, no. Why would I ever we're done? I've had enough go. Enjoy your weekend. Everybody, by the way on Thursdays. Baseball tonight, podcast BUSTER and David Schoenfield. Our buddies take a deep dive into Hoskins ultimate revenge. Homerun that took three minutes to circle plus the latest power ten rankings. Find the show on your favorite podcast app. We are done for the week. We'll be back on Monday trista, and Kyle thanks so much this to find your Bill. I America have an awesome weekend. Dark does.

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HOUR 3: Seth Merrow

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Radio YOU'RE GONNA love it and that's <hes> Mikey guarantee must be eighteen years or older in twenty one years old and certain states open an account with express bet state research activities legal void where prohibited national gambling support line eight hundred five to two forty seven hundred breaking down the biggest stories in the world of horse racing. This is at the races with Steve BIC on Sirius X._M.. Radio I saw ty was mall came name round to show me it was you couldn't be no seem eighteen any stop them with use ally. The conversation has run dry. That's what's going on on. This is how it all it again. I can see them. We're back at the races James T. w. view for those of you are hearing that for the first time guest his cover of torn and he's He's like twenty one rob this kid big talent and in fact. It's funny because the other day Tina team has got the she's got the little <hes> what what is the is it a is it google. What does she call it? What what are you when you talk to the when you talk to the little robot thing? I think it's the she's got. I think we've got the Google I think <hes> Zachary gave us the Google on Alexa Alexa. I don't think we've got Alexa. I think I think she I think she says Google Right. Is that yeah okay so team has got a little table top one and then plays music or does whatever I don't know. I haven't asked that to do anything but Tina was looking for. She wanted to play a station or play a certain style of music and I forget what artists she asked for. She had a google play. Whoever and Google couldn't bad just couldn't figure out what she was asking for couldn't find the artists and so I said to Tina I said ask it the play James T. W. and so it said you know here's an recognized James T. W. and it said you know here's a a youtube station based on James W and and it was great? Tina was like Oh my God. This was really good like an hour later. She said that was that was a great choice. So James T W and it's funny because somebody asked me on twitter last month or when I played it the WHO is that and so I used his his twitter moniker and he responded <hes> <hes> which was great you know he's he's getting big but he's obviously not so big that you know that he doesn't he's twenty one tweet tweet atom tweeted James T. W.. <hes> the T. W. stands for Taylor Watts. I just looked up and he is twenty. One twenty one years old so really really good kids at talent. Seth Marrow will join us at some point here. We don't have yet actually it opens up a window for me to do something because I didn't get a chance. There were still tons of things that we didn't cover from the weekend and that includes the rest of the prairie meadows action and for whatever reason you know the the sprint the Iowa sprint which for many years coach Jimmy Lee would win every year scratch down to three horses though there were a bunch of of kind of cross entries and nobody really showed up and ended up being a three-horse race which was strange and share the upside the ellendale favorite she got beat. He got beaten. I should okay and director for Federico. VILLAFRANCA and Danny Caldwell ended up being a pretty you know pretty dominant winter to to start things off in the Iowa festival of racing and in the Iowa Oaks Lady Apple even money and she basically vied for favouritism and then vied for the victory with Valley Brad Kocsis and Cheyenne the stables and in Phoenix and Katie rich with lady Apple Ricardo Santana junior the curl in philly out of Miss Mary apples and happens to be Katie. Rich Own bread and Phoenix INEX- is involvement in you know she was of course third in the Kentucky Oaks so we'll we'll see we'll see what the Asmussen Barn. I imagine that they've got to give serious consideration. She got an eighty seven buyer but you gotta think that bring Curtis Saratoga is in the cards and I you heard me hint at the disqualification in the Derby and the Iowa Derby and I was going to go back and re watch the <hes> the replay a few times on. I didn't get a chance to do that but I just based on the two viewings and and the stewards reviewed tape that you see when they do the the replay they took down winning number and. And I feel terrible for Eddie Martin Junior to have a win like this taken from him and and of course <hes> from the ownership not just Eddie but a James spry and this is a spice down Colt that was making a third start was to for to coming in hadn't faced stakes debut and I I don't see where winning number Cutoff Shang and to the extent that needed to be that he needed to be taken down it looked to me like Martin had position held position and you know just because somebody is testing a you know a coming up the rail since when our jocks where there's posted to give room and let somebody pass you up the inside. Go back and face the owner and the trainer I if you do that I I'm sorry I don't get this one. I didn't see as much consternation Asian over it as an I did see a couple of things but I didn't really read any threads about it but I I didn't see it live. I only saw it the next day but I didn't really understand why winning number have to come down. Have what it did was elevate top line growth into the into the win into the Iowa Derby Win Kelly ruling and Mr Grant is actually a elks known home-bred by tap czar Maryland bred to and now three for four with <hes> with that win Sir Anthony and congratulations to Anthony Mitchell and the auto stables team and Family Sir Anthony at a fat eight and a half to one eight hundred eighty two win the corn husker. There's always a fund and it's always the cornhuskers great the cornhuskers orange one of my favorite <hes> sort of mid America standards and of course raised that born and raised at carbon and then I found a home at Altoona at Prairie Meadows Sarangani and Patriot cotto junior nice nice win for him nice great three for Cotto dark vader actually second year for Peter Burton and and <hes> remembering Rita who's funny remembering Rita is five and it feels it feels to me like remembering read has been around forever Doug Anderson and was the nineteenth start at the age of five spring last remembering reader so that was Friday night and then on Saturday in the Iowa Festival of racing they slipped in the the I were bred action and including the Hawkeyes my woman from Tokyo Kelly von email this Christine Reiner and Crimson King Farm Crew Crimson King bread this one a Nico Bay tenth career win made over half a million dollars a six year old mare she wins the hawkeyes and who's aboard here. Let me turn back to this. <hes> Glenn Corbett gets the Win Canto Hill on net gain to win the cyclones include gelding seven-year-old last I win in here and a bit of an upset three to one you had hence the the Kendall Hansen home-bred actually not a home bred actually bred by Alan poindexter but a Hanson I this is a horse of course that <hes> we saw the two years ago at three <hes> was you know made made some made some little bit annoys on the three year old seen <hes> Han sensed it but this was <hes> Clinton Stewart for claim to fame stables net gain and you had the sailor Ville the six furlong for the phillies and mayors double down Jimmy Devito. You can't run an Iowa festival of racing without a Jimmy Devito win coach. Jimmy Lee one of our absolute all time favorites and in the Iowa distaff Moonlit Garden Brad Cox for Tracy marks the Malibu Moon five year old Mare and she was even money and this one somewhat never in doubt really Alex get Jerry by the way was on Shanghai tariff the Shanghai Bobby Philly for Devito and double down so there's your your Iowa festival a racing. We can put away that one and let let's see what else I have. Marley's freedom I didn't mention the Great Lady M and of course today they'll draw the low sal derby potential apparently for Omaha beach maybe so we'll see about that and Marley's freedom though at sixty fifty cents on the dollar with Raden van Dyke last seen of course in the humanities staff and I imagine that Baffert has gotta think Ballerina right with Marley's freedom so we'll see about that how `bout <hes> what else Pleasanton I. I don't want to skip over the performance by victory rose. Thoroughbreds home-bred bulletproof won one winner in the Everett Nevin. This is the cow bred two year olds five and a half furlongs hundred thousand dollars at Pleasanton and in a romp bulletproof one and I actually got to go back and see what kind of figures because that race had not received a figure but we'll see about pleasant <hes> about bulletproof one. WHO's an idiot proof philly that I was home bred by victory rose out of the car cheer you also had <hes> we talked about the one stake at parks with John Service obviously and the lighted for for will l. and we'll Schwartz and his partner but <hes> how about Christoph Lamont pure sensation the eight year old wins the park Stash Paco Lopez aboard? If you didn't see this one <hes> this one also also was really never in doubt <hes> the the disconcerting performance vision perfect as I don't know <hes> vision perfect has had three and modest efforts so far this year chased him premise at the beginning of the year in Florida but now back to back <hes> off efforts so we'll see what Chris <hes> what he's going to do to or actually vision perfect <hes> at <hes> with Jason Service I mean that Chris Chris <hes> Christoph with Pearson station for the generosity and even going back a little further. I do want to mention because I didn't get a chance <hes> we haven't talked Michelle voice in a long time and she had a nice win a big price. My murdy won the Chicago Handicap back at the last weekend in June and congratulations a magnet graduate than Illinois Bread seven-year-old my murdy that very cool beat Hotshot Anna who was three to five yeah. This is very cool. I God I wish kind of that. I'd been on last week takes graded stake shot with my murdy at age seven and wins the Chicago Handicap Nice and what else they get the. I don't think I did this either Churchill. Let's get the Churchill in from closing weekend when I wasn't around Phantom boss George Paraffin came in from California and wins Windsor the Bashford how about that from the Rail Raphael Bejarano Shackelford <hes> Colt broke his maiden against the cow breads at Santa Anita going four and a half and this of course <hes> was six and Phantom boss very nice seventy buyer in here so that's a nice win for paraffin out of town and Rafi coming home to. To Louisville you also had magic dance for ask me sin three chimneys home-bred. There's magic dance won the debutante. We'll see what's next there. What kind of figured that get <hes> you're asking they can't <hes> seventy six so the philly outperformed the the boy and the Kelly's landing as well? It's clear this from the Desk Line Judge for Peter Miller Peter Miller after an extended ended period <hes> finally kind of woke up Peter about I don't know five or six wins over about a ten day period after the long cold snap and also I should mention <hes> in fact that that same day a winner for Miller and the Serene family the seven year old veteran nice performance in a in a rich allowance as well <hes> Los out now. Let me get that one in Queen B._T._U.. Andrew Learner for Christopher Saint Hilaire and Adam Vail make it Adam Valley. Excuse me but the Queen B._T._U.. The five year old one Bertrando opening weekend at Los out horse that <hes> spy originally a tiny town bread an old topper. They're up by a nose at eleven to one and that was with right for what these so. That's that's a lot of it. I think I think that Oh also one more before we go to seth <hes> we'll take a we'll. Take a break probably the bottom of the hour and go to set but I wanted to get these in. It's not people like to hear especially if you know if you look forward to hearing your your your name if if you're involved in these horses but how about the speed right we didn't get the summit of speed results and the Princess Rooney stormy embrace talk about hard hitting mayors she was going to be a short price in their Wilma Garcia <hes> one of our favorites wilmer had that great summer up here at Saratoga and then he had the the car accident going to penn national one night and in really interrupted what felt like a you know some momentum in his career but <hes> stormy armie embrace for the Matt alona thoroughbreds people the Mayor by circular key home-bred and Nice Win Nice win and that was coming out of the crap out of the musical romance so the great to Princess Rooney and you also had the smile and that night source of Patrick being cones and the diamond racing people Patrick <hes> really is a nice thing going doing with them and if they steady diet of some nice sources but in the smile the grade three diamond oops with Jillian let Peru it was coming out of that try and the diaper went back to dirt to win the smile and <music> a little bit of an upset there little bit Jalen journey who then turned around and went through the the ring and was the sale topper <hes> the other day <hes> Monday and the racing age sale <hes> he also had to carry back which is no longer graded three year old boys and take command in here for Terry Pompeii and tropic lightning racing this was bred by our friend Ed Seltzer originally and take command now three for seven and might be a horse horse heading somewhere eighty nine Byron here by Field Commission and it's my lucky charm won the Kailua Eddie police for Lori and in it's my lucky day for your old or actually three year old I should say the course for three year old fillies and finally lady's island for the Matisse and rich April team and and <hes> Georgina Baxter and of course pay any price <hes> this is a this is now a female version it seems of pay any price so congratulations <hes> the team Matisse and rich catch and they'll they'll be ready to go tomorrow the picnic table in the back corner by the big red spray very nice and ladies. I pay any price originally was entered in here but <unk> Butt scratched and wins the Bobbi Humphrey Turf Sprint so is that that that's the lion share we talk Jay walk from the Delaware Oaks in the Robert Dick. Uh I do want to talk to in Wilkes because you know gentle ruler a winner in the in the Robert Dick but I told you at the beginning of the show neck and neck very sadly had to be <hes> euthanized in Indiana and Agia ten and is just getting started. There's going to be the one crop <hes> e- add he'd had a nice reception in Indiana and they feel very badly for everybody involved breakaway farm and they were very very excited and of course you'll remember the dentist Farkas Yeah we talked about neck and neck when when Denison any were you know having real you know a nice run with him. Mary sorry about that so we'll talk to eat at some point about it but <hes> in did have <hes> and son-in-law Sunday lockers Landeros who rich or he's going to handle <hes> as Jack Agent but gentle ruler Colonel John Philly wins the Robert Dick that eons streaking four straight now Arnaud Delacour Trevor McCarthy aboard and Delcor. We're also won the Cape Henlopen with cancer and also got a mention Dr Blarney followed up his Suffolk win came right back on on you know modest rest and wins the Carl L. Hanford and if you didn't see the little note that <hes> was was really I kinda fun this. This was a one of those tidbits and I'm not sure when Jessica Chapel when she got it but she made the great connection to Dr Blarney and <hes> you know Joe Rico the Massachusetts Bread winning the Hanford and Jessica pulled out tidbit that Carl Hanford long before he started training when he rode road the first winner ever at Suffolk about that for full circle unbelievable aw crazy that was. I thought that was bribery tweeted that was that was an amazing tidbit. Let's take a break bottom of the hour. I wanted to get those results in and we come back Seth Mero and Seth Nile kick off the the Saratoga seasonal everything see what seth has to say and of course we started with loose on the lead on Sunday kind of working out the technical kinks on the set for capital TV. Maybe saw John Singer from Capitol yesterday at the eighteen sixty three opening take a quick time out Seth Barrow when we come back at the races with Steve on Sirius X._M.. Radio Five years at the forefront of sports technology stats provides next generation sports content for basketball baseball football soccer and now stats is turning it cites or three six bracelets is the most in-depth product on the market with innovative analytics powered by data from applebee's. 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Summit must be eighteen or older in twenty one states Oakland County spent resigned the state where such activities activities legal void where prohibited National Gaming Support Line eight hundred five hundred forty seven hundred and we're back at the races the hour and Seth Marrow Standing by jungle boy himself Sascha morning the morning live from the backstretch morning here at Saratoga Nice Nice so you're sitting there handicapping <hes> probably Fridays card. I put it out Friday but that's the game plan for when I get off the air with you so you so you have done you have done tomorrow though I have done to my all absolutely nice all right good so here's here's what we're GONNA do. We'll do a little bit of <hes> you know. Bang the Gong around and talk about the meat and then we'll head cap tomorrow's card excellent all right then I was surprised yesterday. I thought maybe I would see you at the at the eighteen sixty three kickoff. I was dying to go 'cause I'm dying to see the inside of that late. I was at a few Seminar Times Union seminar. That's right. That's right yeah yeah yeah with <hes> N._F._l.. I could have I could've easily it could have easily been at the eighteen sixty three because it was a the seminar was <hes> Migliori. Larry Calm is <hes> Dale Romans Eric Geo and then I was betting Clinton I was GonNa say it was batting cleanup that would that would be good. That would be the power hitter batting last. I was ninth in the order literally came up at the end and add like a three minute spiel made a couple of picks and that was it so yeah I could definitely up gone over and taking a look at the building building that was would have been the preferred after no but I am not to take anything away from the seminar which was well attended. It was very entertaining and it's just the you know you had all the storytellers up there. They didn't need me to participate but <hes> the folks in the audience that's why I say very well attended people looking forward to the meat and they enjoyed guilloux Romans calmness and make Laurie Nice well then I will only little only tell you that you're are gonNA be suitably impressed. I talked about it at the beginning of the show and and you know basically it it replaces the you know the old <hes> at the rail tent and those you know those modular sweets it brings all of it together and did it really with a real style and panache and I think people are GonNa love it and there's lots of options terms of group parties and I you know I I know South I saw I've I've seen a little bit of critique and I kind of <hes> railed against some of the people that that were being critical of this concept but you know for years. All we ever heard was how naira can't make any money and then when Nyerere goes and tries to capitalize on on their greatest asset. That's no good either yeah. I don't you know the top of the stretch <hes> which was the addition last year which I have applauded got criticized and I don't get it. They you know nothing is taken away from what what the the average fan has. The price has gone up slightly but still you talk about the the price of a day at the track. If you're at the low end it beats any other professional sport not to mention you get to bring in your own picnic cooler if you'd like to. I I just think it's a bargain for folks who want the bargain opportunity but I'm the high end yeah. It's just any sporting venue in the country now caters to high end customers and has those luxury boxes and so if you looked at that tent that was there and those trailers that were there to put this building in you know as I say I'm sitting on the backstretch and we've been kind of up here working on the set and whatnot for a week and a half or so and I've been looking across you know the track towards the building. It's just architecturally fits in nicely. It's a good looking building from seeing the pictures on the inside it looks beautiful inside and yet it caters to a higher price point but again it it doesn't take anything away. Hey replaces that bank would taint ten and the the trailers which most people probably weren't utilizing anyway and it puts in something now that as I say every other sporting venue in the country has and I think this venue being the top racing venue in the country was kind of crying out for this kind of thing to me no negatives but I just think being year two thousand and nineteen. You're going to get those people who are who are going to complain. No matter what anxious for you to see see it and I'm sure we'll <hes> we'll talk about the early reviews when we are together on Sunday for loose and looking forward looking forward to getting people in here and I'm anxious to see what kind of what kind of vibe in general how well attended these first four days are going to be and the adjustment to the five day a week schedule. I think will be very easy and I just I expect it to be so much. More relaxed Seth and you know that that I don't WanNA use the word grueling but if you know unless you've gone through it for years as either a an <music> owner a trainer a horseman family of backstretch employees and their families I mean if you've been here and been involved for any length of time you know that you get the Labor Day and it you've been through a gauntlet and I think it can only enhance everybody's experience up here yeah. I've said people have asked me for the last three or four months as they see me. What do you think of the schedule? I have said for me. It's kind of a wait and see attitude attitude. It's hard to predict I think this first week. I think everybody looks for opening day so I think tomorrow attendance is going to be fine. I can be interested in Friday and Saturday and Sunday. You know in early July weekend. I'm not sure I mean traditionally. It was the August place to be. I think in a lot of people's minds it's still August and you still see that kind of jolt in attendance when the calendar changes to August even with the schedule being in July as long as it has been now so I think starting early in July it make it up to a little bit of a slow start <hes> all tomorrow. I think it'll be fine. Everybody looks forward opening day but as you say the two days off I think is GonNa make a big difference for people certainly those of us who are at the track every day again you you mentioned it. You get to Labor Day and it's kind of like hey see it. Go Away kind of ready for the break and I think it'll be a little bit about a nice change. This year with that two days off gives everybody a little time to decompress and get ready for the week. I'M GONNA be interested to see in that that they decided to take off Monday and start Wednesday and a lot of people have said boy that you know I used to like the long weekend Saturday Sunday Monday and I get that but I think that will work out fine. I think those people who did the long weekend and now we just ship and go Friday Saturday and Sunday so don't wind up working out fine. I think it's GonNa work out nicely for local businesses. I think now if you WANNA take a week up here Saratoga maybe a common couple of days you can go down to the baseball hall of fame. We're up to Lake George or just walk around Saratoga so I think it will play out nicely for local businesses but again. It's kind of a wait and see attitude. It's the how it will actually shake out. Well and you know I it occurs to me. What what's the T._v.? Schedule Agile. How how is it affecting <hes> The O._T.? Broadcast schedule what's going to be going on Monday Tuesday. I mean I- Monday Tuesday it will just show racing. We will only be live on the set on the racing day so essentially the schedule. Schedule is well like the racing schedule. A number of days is just the same. It's just different days so whereas I used to be Monday Wednesday Thursday Friday with racing across America Brian Does on Saturday you and I are on Sunday now. Racing across America for me is just Wednesday Thursday Friday but there will be more I mean I'm still going to have the same number of days that just Mondays won't be in the mix is they're going to be some Sunday night. <hes> to Wednesday morning main runs and that is always possible certainly <hes> that would have definitely been in the mix in years past but <hes> yeah probably work out yeah. I'll probably work out a a <hes> Sunday to eight lately Tuesday <hes> up beach trip that yeah this comes true. This comes a little late <hes> it's too bad actually right that would have been ideal appropriate yeah yeah all right well. We'll we'll make do all right and you should of course scouting for places for teen and I <hes> while you're there make sure you make sure you write something. Nice America's get <hes> through a few weeks ago. I recommend that it was up my cousin silence literally nine minutes away from from the old place right on the water was it was a nice location did somebody did you drive by days that somebody by days what what what what what's going on there <hes> I did drive by and they're open so so somebody ready you were talking about that. I've forgotten where somebody bought it or but it was open it is open good good good days <hes> lobster seafood shop and they'll steam them for you and either take them home or you can eat in the backyard and <hes> days for those of you going up to Freeport that's right on the way and this may be since we're talking made I I should slip in my <hes> my plug plug for Willard scoops in North Portland or South Portland South Portland North Borland south South Portland. Thank you <hes> wonderful ice cream. <hes> wonderful ice cream shop so make sure you enjoyed the pizza shop to <hes> the the pizza in Portland is out of this world. I mean there's Auto O._T.. O._T.. Oh Yeah Yeah Yeah. There's plenty others I it's a it's a terrific craft. The craft beer and spirits jason become like Saratoga kind of a Foodie tout yeah well. It's it it's got it's got a poll on Saratoga as a food down but <hes> AH Portland's a portable Portland's a real small city in it but it <hes> yeah it's it's. It's the HIP and happening. I love it. It's sort of the Portland the Portland of the East right all right. Let's let's Die Vince Seth and and let's get some thoughts about about the season and you want to do some handicapping or do you have some overview that you wanna you WanNa offer trying to think is your leading into that. I mean one of that. The angles I've laid throughout the years and it hasn't been as proficient the last couple of seasons but I used to be a job and shepherd guy you saw these toss his name out 'cause he would bring in those Augusta and runners that had race <hes> in their previous race. You know Delaware or Laurel well. Maybe an ad run maybe fifth or six they call up here and pop at a price again that hasn't been quite as proficiently augustine horses have kind of moved on but maybe Jonathan Thomas with some Augusta horses. Maybe take a look at some of those or Graham motion <hes> because I think those that Guston Austin runners may have some of that same kind of profile going forward <hes> that was that was one of the angles I always shit on a year and a year on. I can't think any other real kind of and everybody has we're talking on the show earlier this morning about those kinds of angles. Everybody has kind of a trainer that for them over the years has been a productive at Saratoga and one of them. I said a lot of people shepherd is Barclay K <hes> a guy who can bring horses up and maybe pop the price once or twice during the meat and everybody seems to have one in their back pocket that has worked for them so if you've got one spread the word a little bit won't hurt your price to tell two or three other people but <hes> give them a chance. You answered ticket <hes> trainer angles. You're kind of fun. <hes> if you have one like that other than that I don't really have any any thing you know they think tucked in the back pocket opera really well for those that watched us <hes> the other day <hes> we had oh ooh that was a great call pacing facing dave the clock or formerly known as pace and Dave now he's now he's palm beach downs Dave but he gave out the Nevin runner-up at at <hes> over eight to one and just got collard late but Dave talked about <hes> the obvious everybody knows that and in fact there's an article by Dave Greenwich <hes> his M._J.. Mental have his del Mar two year old article which is always a clip and save. We'll talk to Jay on Friday but <hes> Dave Greenwich has been doing those two year old collins as well. He's got a big one in that hits. Not just you know the obvious the Chad Brown and the pleasures etc but as Dave <hes> Dave Norton pointed out my Engelhardt Jeremiah on display right away early with some babies and you know and to your end you WanNa talk about a maiden opportunity you mentioned Augustine <hes> they have with Jonathan. Thomas George Strawbridge has got to a friend who is the seven to two favorite in the nightcap tomorrow so maybe you're onto something early. We'll see other favorite <hes> trainers. If you go go that way certainly certainly are manned. George Weaver and George did not have a typical weaver Saratoga last summer but the fact that George has been quiet at Belmont the this this early League midseason. I'm going to guess Georgia's will be poised for a big Saratoga. Yeah Yeah we've seen that in various years trainers have a big Belmont and then they come up to Saratoga and they've Kinda run out of conditions for some of the so things turn around but then as you say you get those strangers who are kind of a little quiet at Belmont they come up here though sources do still have some conditions the ready to pop and that's one of the things I think you watch war there will be the the the trainers that we we all know what your Chad Brown and whatnot but usually in the first three or four days five days there are one or two trainers and maybe a couple of jockeys who kind of stand out <hes> on that next year and they're worth work watching through at least the first half of the meat you know they they'll come in and they'll get a little bit hot <hes> and kind of announced that as I say maybe through the first four or five days of meat and then they're worth looking at for another <hes> two or three weeks or so well and on that topic the way you refer that you think about <hes> you think about the <hes> the book that Jim Mazer puts together and and yeah the way you know there was so many years where you know you really start your your research with his stuff and it said prog handicapped dot com. I always give him a little a little push. He does a great job laying out the historic angles on what he used to call. I am sure we still call them. I didn't see this year's book yet but he does the tortoise and the hairs the the hairs that get out to a big start in the first third so did the meat and of course this goes back to the days of six days a week for six weeks the thirty six they meet and so it used to be brought <hes> it used to be brought the out into two week the first two weeks the middle two weeks in the last two weeks weeks and that's changed somewhat and you're GonNa have horses you know this this period that is going to be. They're going to have opportunities to run. Maybe you know easily three times and the fact voodoo speaking of a multi winners right Voodoo <hes> dancers showed up on Friday in the forbid nap Voodoo songs dancer booted answer was Nice as well but <hes> Voodoo Song who won three times at Saratoga and amazing really an amazing story all the way to grade one winner but the the certain themes that are based on the condition Asian Book and I know that this has morphed somewhat over the years. There's still races that are always in certain places and trainers know that they're going to have horses for those spots and so there is you know there is a lot of benefit. If you are a D. R. F. Subscriber go to the simulcast daily section and look at the winners book and right now you can go if you go to the winters book all of last year's me. Meat is going to be laid out for you and look and see the conditions of the races and what the various you know who who won look for you know we do this. Ah Del Mar to look for guys that had you know big prices aces early in the meat and a lot of those themes at least put you on watch for those for those possibilities. They just you gotta be aware doesn't necessarily work from year to year and of course there was bill motte. You know who would been over forty with first time starters going back a bunch of years and then he promptly one with two of his first three. What was that two years ago? I'll call another angle right along. Those lines is to the venues and that's a good way to find that out looking at those charts from last year <hes> and looking at the you know the race <hes> horse the previous race and so you pick out the venues and you should do loose on the lead every week pick out <hes> where horses were coming from that to me is worth looking at in the first four or five days <hes> for seven or eight days maybe and seeing if are they coming in from Churchill L.. Are they coming in from. Maybe this summer will have horses coming in from Elvis and how horses are doing some of the other venues now. Obviously most of the winners will come from one of the New York tracks in their last star but if you pay attention some of all those venues kind of stick out a little bit and it's not you automatically go to them but if there's a horse you're kinda wavering and you think yeah got down to third spot and that's your where to put it exactly and it comes from a venue where the horses have been pretty good over the past you know four or five seven days or since the beginning of meat maybe upgraded a little bit well. Let's let's get a couple of opinions in kind of walked through real quick particularly for the people that will be listening to the replay and the replay tomorrow. We'll be leading you up basically to within an hour. I Post tomorrow one o'clock. Give us a kind of go back and forth I have it. I've got the card hard about eighty percent down. I gotTa do some battery work on that maiden race but other than that <hes> starts off tomorrow I I gave up three last night at the seminar so hit every five six and ten the five is a maiden special for state breads <hes> I I used ghost ghost ghost on top because I like our church arch as a sire of potentially precocious waters not necessarily super pretty good <hes> the damn producers sibling called Saratoga Charlie that went took ten starts to win but in the ten starts the wins end three seconds and a couple of third so a little bit precociousness another sibling called La Grande Warrior that was ninth in the debut then one in the second start so again. I think there's win early breeding. It's asked me she and the workouts are okay. Five the one I put ghost ghost ghost on top of that <hes> ray spun Fatty for Jeremiah that one sibling called Sunshine Sandy that wanted to debut as you mentioned earlier Jeremiah now getting to be one of those guys you have to pay attention to with debut runners and then I use the Wesley Ward under underneath so in the fifty Charito guy of three nine two and eight as I mentioned I have not done too much of the of the pedigree <hes> Kinda work yet so I will. I will not necessarily <hes> commit to anything in here here but I do know that I do know that there's an interesting name that jumped out at me as a damn from a barn that is not known at all as a first out type Tauber tranny hooked up with Bob Massey Yellow and you remember finders key who was a nice horse and she <hes> has produced a congrats Philly <hes> that they called keep it and that kind of cute because I'm gonNA guess that instead of selling this philly the Maciel and albertrani decided to keep it <hes> and that out yeah and <hes> she was in a she keep a key finders key did not run as a two year old but I would keep an eye on on this horse <hes> just <hes> you know the minute. I saw finders key because I liked I liked her. Are Anyway all right. What are you doing in that sixty mentioned <hes> again? This is one where we got to take a look at the sky tomorrow. I think they're predicting the weather but I'm the turf I have a to nine eleven and the one a and I'll just admit I'm every once in a while you roll dyson. I'm rolling the dice here at twenty. Three outlaws by golden sense that to me is a win early siren kind of lived up to that winning in the third career start but did take a little class dip their the numbers and spectacular but that was last October off since that that race look back in the middle of June there was a bullet workout best to thirty one at keeneland and that Lewis I as the for the move up here so I thought the Brian Lynch runner in there again at twenty two one. I as I say I'm taking a shot. I'm rolling the dice but I think I'll get paid to take up. Maybe a little bit interesting three outlaws in that six race yeah this is as you've heard me say for years the state rent allowance condition and it doesn't matter this is a turf IRV sprint but it doesn't matter my favorites are the turf <hes> Man Mile and Change Mile and a sixteenth etc they have been historically not just Saratoga downstate too but state bread allowance condition and is so productive in terms of prices and do not in these races. I'll tell you right now. Do not be afraid if you get an inkling about a price. Do not be shy. Go ahead <hes> if you thought something you might very well beyond the something all right so <hes> that's my my overriding suggestion when it comes to you know the the conditions and I'll throw out Charlie Baker acre go into the turf with light the posse tend to one just kind of little interesting to me and then you got the tenth again at the hope we keep on the turf ear <hes> but I used to the four Horse Klatt does run by bonaventure stables <hes> that includes some local owners so easy to root for locals but this one debuted main special company or okay debut want to learn from and benefit from and then dropped in for tag last time but the the winner their team win was up a pletcher Poli dropped down that that looked to just Kinda outclass the field and yet this one was a very close up second to that horse right off of that. I thought Oh this is GONNA be beautiful up at Saratoga <hes> if they kind of stay in the same class level they have they're coming back and essentially the same kind of a race of cloud does run on top and then as you say with the Augusta runner right underneath to a friend encore kitten I also think as a player in here so in that tenth and final Lionel Tomorrow Abbott four nine eight and five it's this is a competitive bunch these <hes> these maiden forties and actually we're in that maiden forty nightcap on Friday with Minnie mouse so these these are these are tough way to this is not a state bred race but <hes> there's open company but these are these are tricky <hes> the ones that you know the ones that have run and run on turf all pretty much you know within a length or two of each other so it's a bit of a trip issue and we'll see about the weather <hes> fifty fifty <hes> these first couple of days weather wise but <hes> one hundred percent forecast for great coverage of the meat <hes> by Vice Chef Mario and everybody a capital TV seth my on Sunday and I think seth one of our guests on Sunday <hes> my Guy Joe Bianca Joe is up from <hes> for T._v.. And not he's not fourteen he and he's he's up with his girlfriend to see the races and the go to the concert Saturday night but <hes>. I think maybe we'll get joe on <hes> on Sunday sounds good and fog last week. Show twitter store. You tweeted some things out. People are going back and forth and liking re tweet l. all in one person tweeted. How did you watch if you're if you're not up here? <hes> you can do it by going to the capital of the website which came up with a redesigned today a brand new website also an Ecuadorian. I put a link put a big link up on Ecuador that gets that media page H so the folks aren't in the area watch the O._T.. Programming live from the Sheriff Toga backstretch every morning just swing on over the Capitol thebeat dot com including our irreverent hijinks. 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"Hi there and welcome to fantasy focus baseball. That's right baseball. It's tuesday. January twenty second two thousand nineteen so sunny warm day here in the northeast America, rebel. He is Tristan h Cochran's off the h has always stands for happily winning all the league. So you'd better listen to everything the Salton says the season, it's a long middle name tristen. Can you handle it? That really sets a high bar for me the season that you're going to jail. Fifteen words on what the H stood for. Yeah. I've been many many different definitions what the stands for happily singing. Maybe let's talk spoil. I got nothing else. That's it's one word. It was three words. No, one expect more three three we expect introduce everyone else because without the other guys today, we could not do is show. We've got researcher extraordinaire, Kyle soppy. Does a great job. Of course. You heard him on the fantasy football podcast where he did. Excellent work, there producer Daniel Dopp became star and are courageous editorial watchdog Leo Hal is with us as well. Hello, gentlemen. Happy new year. It's too late news. The twenty second. To any of you. So why not I mean, I appreciate it? I hope you have a happy new year to but I'm not gonna wish you one. I think that that's like a week. I think he had a week breed. Wow. You're not even gonna wish him. What it sounded? I hope he has one very nice watchdog stepping in here. It is perfectly acceptable to wish someone happy new year on the twenty second county. It's the first time you've talked to them we wish marginally better than replacement New Year's to all acceptable to baseball. We're here to talk baseball. It's it's called outside. But the warmth of spring training is only a few weeks away pitchers and cash report. And what does it trysted in one thousand nine hundred eighty tweet out today nineteen as Oakland as February tenth and most of them report on the twelfth. So that's twenty one days from now. Like, the groundhog like he peeks his head out the tweet that the pitchers and catchers reporting in one thousand nine days, I didn't see him tweet all year, but I so much because see my shadow after that so back in the hall did your shadow look anything like Adalberto modesty. We're going to discuss him on today's show a little bit later on Mr. softy will read your questions and trysts in the expert will give you answers, but I the buzz. All right. So I I can't say I'm too surprised by this. But Bryce Harper Machado remain. I guess technically unemployed. They're going to find very good jobs soon. But they don't have them as of today. And I don't think they're going to find their jobs today. Today's hall of fame day, we'll get to that later as well. But Chris, and I ask you is it going to matter that much for your rankings. Now your rankings or posted and mine will be when I get off my button do them. And I'm wondering like does it matter obviously, not going to Coors field in Colorado? There's a matter where Harper and Machado end up with jobs to you. Or is it to be a minor thing on your rankings? It's going to be a minor thing in my rankings. I mean, there are some extremely good and extremely poor situations for each I mean, Bryce Harper not going to the if he did he's got a good swing for that porch. That can help ever so slightly with Manny Machado actually gets about the position eligiblity for future years more than anything else. I don't think much is going to change your other than in a in a deeper lineup. He gets more counting number potential if he's a team in a more pitching oriented ballpark, perhaps not. But I think it's a question of does. He play short. Does he play third? I think that's kind of the big story line for him. Yeah. And you know, you're right now you've got. You've got Machado and your first round number ten and you've got Horford number twenty three. And I don't think that's where they're going to end up being drafted. I think Harper's gonna end up being drafted ESPN ADP better than that. Although what is it one out of six years? He's been a top twenty player in fantasy is that what it is. It's still seems like we're giving him a lot of love here that might be undeserving. He wasn't. He wasn't a top twenty player last year. Was he? No, I think only in that the big full healthy year, the one that he had did he get a high number and I'm trying to dig that up. We'll we while we speak. But I think that most people in fantasy have caught onto the fact that he just doesn't have the production compared to the ADP's of the past. But even still winning is healthy. He does put up extraordinary numbers on a per game healthy basis he can compete with those in the top ten, but I don't think you should be drafting him there. I don't think that that that the discussion for Bryce Harper will no matter where he goes end up being within the top ten draft picks. I think it's going to be in that second round. Maybe gets in the fringe if you play in the fifteen team mixed leagues, I can see the conversation for that. But there are a lot of players who give you more in terms of stolen bases. I think end up being smarter picks these days and in this age see now, I look at your rankings degree Tristan. I see some players who are ranked after Harper. And I think what changed within why are they being punished for their kind of rough two thousand eighteen season. Whereas Harper kind of isn't like Chris Brian to me, you have them ranked number thirty two and you have Harper twenty three and I think well, that's silly. I mean Brian had a tough year at a shoulder injury. But isn't Bryan Bryan Simone that we regard as consistent power source? An infielder can steal a base just like Harper. A year ago? He was drafted much better than this Correa was as well. Anthony, Ren, don't in the past has been ranked better than is Cody Bellinger, I guess my point Anthony Rizzo look at that number forty two Springer I guess it seems to me that these other players are being punished for two thousand eighteen like I'm going to have Chris Bryant higher. I don't know about higher than Harper. But certainly higher than you do. So how are you expecting? Well, I mean to me Chris Bryant's a second round pick. I think I wanna have him my top twenty because I want to view what happened in two thousand eighteen as a little bit Everett. He was injured now. He's not. Yeah. I kind of want to get behind this to Brian is one of the ones in the top fifty of mine that I think has the greatest likelihood of moving up based on the spring returns, and that is going to go entirely to the health returns as opposed to the game performance. Because last year I'm willing to just right off the fact that the shoulder issue that he suffered. I think it was late June. The carried over the rest of the year explained a lot of its downturn in production. But they were those were severely down. Graded stats hard hit. Contact hard hitting a rate was down his fly ball rate was significantly down. There was a big concern for me. He struggled a lot against right handed pitchers. It was the performance of what what you talk about for a mid thirties player who was on the downturn of their career curve history sloping upward. So if he does report to spring training fully healthy, we get great reports. He's looking good in the BP's. Maybe some of the early games swinging the ball well lifting it, then I'm on board as a second round pick. I think he could be a value. It's just there is risk still tied to him. I agree there's risk through a lot of these players wasn't thing. I always say, I I know it's annoying to the people that are listening in Bristol right now. But I'll be calling. I of course. But I look at last year's ADP. Oh, by the way, tristen. Can you Email me last year's anything last year's ADP? And I say, okay, what changed with this guy? What changed with that guy? Why are we making this guy where we are when a year ago, we loved him, Brian is that guy to me like most poll isn't that a polarizing player in Drass, right? Now, he's a huge value to me Harper's polarizing I mean, the the most polarizing player in fantasy baseball address right now. You know, who it is? Right. It's it's not Harper. It's not her shots. Bryant. Gee, I wonder who is it's it's well, there's let's put of this. Right. So I whatever we didn't have a pre meeting appreciable eating or anything. So now like a week ago. I emailed Leo editorial watchdog, and I said, hey, I need to do my rankings sent him to me the semi Tristan's. And I'll move out about your modesty up fifty spots. And that'll be it. That's what I said only type. Maybe eighty you've got him wearing ridiculous -ly. I know what we're going to get into this on every show. I think but you have modesty right now at number one thirty three gimme a thirty second minute. Whatever on why you haven't ranked where you are. Because he's going to get drafted in the top seventy five by most people. I think and I'm gonna have in ranked around seventy five or eighty and you tell me what seems unusual for you to be so far against the player with upside. He there's downside. But there's also upside. Okay. So everybody's going to have to choose which side of the fence there on or you're going to be pro or anti I fall on the anti side. I said that the pro side probably is around your number, which is seventy five most of the people I see drafting in this pro are drafting him considerably earlier than that. I saw him going the second round of an NF style draft, which is fifteen teams. So that's within the first thirty overall picks of a draft. And by the way. If it's fifteen deeping digging a little bit deeper into the pool. So that's kind of extraordinary to me, but I don't like buying extremely positive small samples. It's effectively a half season of outrageously good production. And if you try to think back a couple of years to the first player that that comes up Eric used them last year yourself trae Turner trae Turner's production over that small sample was significantly better than what modesty did Montes problems a lot weaker contact. He had a contact rate at least ten percent worse than trae Turner's during that breakout season. He doesn't walk very much. He had an awful lot of good fortune on fly balls. Now, he does have decent pop in his bat. But he hit the peak last season his numbers in terms of the Homer to fly ball rate were among the most historically good of any royals hitter. It's it's not a Homer friendly ballpark. The other end the stolen bases he stole basis. He attempted them at an extraordinary rate. It was more than forty five percent of the time. He had a chance to steal a base. He attempted it which is one of the best of this century. I just tweeted out this morning only six players had reached that forty five percent threshold. He was one of them Rajai Davis. Billy Hamilton, the only other two players to have done that. So I think that's going to come down a bit. You're drafting the role. I think you were drafting the manager who does give the green light a lot. And I think you're you're also going on the role that he's going to get the at bats in order to fill homers runs an RBI, and I just won't pay for that. Using the royals aren't gonna play him. Really if he stinks. I think they will. Now, here's a good question for you. If he stinks and the Royal stink does Joost stay. And if Llosa's changed as the green light is it as as frequent. Yeah. I think they're bad. And they're just going to let them run whenever he wants. All right. Well, let's let's cut to the chase. Gimme numbers. Tell me what you project for modesty this season. I think he's somewhere in the range of two forty average. I don't think he's good for batting average at all. I think he gives you about twelve home runs. Maybe he gets to fifteen and I think he's looking at thirty five stolen bases. And I'm assuming he plays every day. I can make that case where you have them at seventy five with those numbers. But there is a lot of risk. All right. I'll give you that. We what are you doing this guy? Give it give me your numbers on them. I think the numbers that you just mentioned are reasonable and almost like floor like they're just going to run all the time. And I see the reason why like there's so much excitement. Here is look what he didn't half a season. I'll. Grant, you he's not going to take a walk batting average could be a major problem. But not like he's not gonna Joey Galloway either. He's got speed. So I'm not saying he's trae Turner. But he might be trae Turner with like thirty less batting average points. And to me that's a top seventy five players. So I'm going to rank them that way. Like who do you think of the most polarizing players right now? I mean modesty and Harper right there. I guess you could say Kershaw some people still rank kershaw's their top pitcher. You don't. I don't. Kenley Jansen some people might still rank him as the top closer Vlad. Right. Vlad guerrero. We're having ranked fifty nine so Vlad valid came combined. We didn't discuss it beforehand. But glad came to mind as we're we're gonna talk about polarizing players. I don't think it's the performance. That's polarizing I think it's whether you're willing to invest the price for a rookie. Well, I'm willing to invest the price in this rookie. My only concern is does he sit in the minors in percolate for two meaningless weeks. Kris Bryant did a few years ago or is it half a season? And that's my main concern. But there's no question the guy can hit. Yup. And I think he can hit right away. And I think he could be a top twenty major league hitter right away. Yep. Why I don't know if he's playing in April, or if it's the all-star break or whatever with the Blue Jays, we're doing here. And you know, the fact that it's been a slow market, so far I think helps Vlad Guerrero in a way like Toronto really hasn't done a whole lot offensively where to make this. So it's a guess. But again, it's upside, and I'm willing. I'm more willing than I used to be. I know who is this guy to take chances on players with upside. And to me Vlad as crazy upside. He's in my top fifty part of the reason for that is that I push pitchers down a little bit further than you, do especially closers. I'm not taking your closer in round four or five. You've got your first closer kenley Jansen number fifty five. Should he be the first closer? I don't know. Should I don't think he should go that early? There's certainly no guarantees with this guy. Right. But we're still waiting for a bunch of other players to sign contracts, and that affects things to Pollock Dallas Keiko Craig kimbrel who still thinks he's getting a five year deal. Good luck without fellow. I mean, so I can still change your but in the rankings again like most ballparks are kind of in the middle for production. They're not as great as chorus field and they're not like the Mets stadium. So it kind of it's not going to matter that much in the rankings to me. So basically, you said what what could change your rankings in the next four weeks six weeks health like Kris Bryant being healthy yellow. I think he is anything else like who are some players that you think you could be moving in your rankings whether way before I think promise of a job with flat is big I could get behind that top fifty rank. I do like him that much you and I have both seen him play in the minors. A couple of times his talent is absolutely legitimate. And when you look at projections, like the steamer projections are projection out there. He can meet those numbers. I just like to know that he's going to play every single day. I think the floor is pretty gosh. Darned elevated. I'd say health for guys like, Cory Seager? I think are going to be very big in terms of determining the rankings for me Janssen, you'd mentioned before. How the Yankees breakdown their infield based on having cluttered at there. I want to see where labor tourists plays. Exactly what his role is spot in the lineup and the light because I do feel like his upside is pretty pretty decent this year. So the line of construction the Phillies lineup construction is another one where I I don't know what the orders going to be. And I might be a little bit more interested in a couple of players like Andrew mccutchen who they picked up based on where they're slotting him in the lineup. These aren't big swings. But they could mean around. Maybe I get a little bit more optimistic about a player like that. Let's see scrolling through some of my others. The coaches clearly going to bad third in the line of writing between Bryce Harper. Manny machado. So he's going to put up monster numbers. And that's my boy pass prime you joke. I'm I wouldn't be shocked. I I would not be shocked, and if it did happen. That's great for him. You know, by the way, people stop whining about all this. I mean, Twitter's cesspool anyway, but what's up whining about what taking so long, you know, in real life. We take a long time. Sometimes look for jobs to find jobs if Harper signs in the first week of March, so be it. It doesn't have to be in January. I understand it's holding things up for other people like AJ Pollock. But that's not his concern about getting the most money or as agent is about getting the most money, Hugh magin if we go to like, the NFL and AL labor drafts in Arizona and Harper Machado on sign you could mean like actually bidding on a player in the AL only not knowing if that player is going to play in the American League. Yeah. That's see that's gonna have a profound impact on the only leagues. And what you rule set is for that. I mean, you can buy those players and labor. But then you lose them outright, you have to immediately cut them at they signed on the other league, and they would fetch pretty hefty bids. I don't think we're going to be waiting until March to see them sign. I could see them signing right around the point that the camps open though. I. There've been a obviously a lot of players have signed. Let's go like brief one word answers here, Paul Goldschmidt. You haven't been number twenty with the cardinals that ballpark related is that Goldschmidt related lineup. Like, it seems like he last year was a top ten pick. Now, he's not what changed. Performance especially against fastballs was down a little bit last year and the trade change nothing for me. Patrick Corbin with the nationals. Now, you haven't as a top twenty starting pitcher. I agree with that like more or less out of Arizona. More issue. The ballpark change wasn't as big as you think. But I do like more getting out of there. You have Andrew mccutchen you number thirty two author. Obviously, we still don't know about what else the Phillies will look like. But it's one home runs at least an eight consecutive seasons. Not really stealing basis anymore that probably won't change the Phillies. There's a risk here. There is and for me the risk is he's slots in is a six hitter, which is not really maximizing his full potential. I love this guy in the points leagues. The on base percentage leagues. That's that's my pro. Mccutchen stance. Edwin Encarnacion he might end up somewhere else as well. He's already moved on seven straight seasons with thirty plus home runs. No other players and actress streak longer than five that's Nelson Cruz does Edmund in Kronos, you'll make it eight straight is he a top fifty player. I will say no I want to get out here before the downward curve. Okay. You Brian dosier at number one seven overall seems like a pretty good bounceback opportunity for dosier who didn't get like forty homers two seasons ago. He'll hurt your batting average. But then this could be a top hundred player. You don't see that? He could if he had a full rebound. But I do think that the career curve is kind of adhering to what it should for him. I mentioned the Damion Easley career comp. I mean players of this style, historically, donate. Great at second base. That's my worry with dosier. He could be a very good value where I have them. And I'm still still trying to take a look at exactly I feel fits in Washington. All right. The teams we always talk about Red Sox Yankees. Jay to the fact of the Yankees, and they'd a volley back to the Red Sox. You've got half thirty eight among starters and evolved seventy two that seems like a pretty large difference to me for a volley was good. Yeah. It does. And I could say that these guys are equal in terms of the raw talent on a per start basis. But involve these health history is a lot more troubling to me has been a considerably more durable pitcher over the years, and I like the fit in New York New York was able to maximize the things that he did best in terms of the pitch selection at catcher that wasteland. Yes. Money Grondahl, a Milwaukee. Now Wilson Rama's is a net. You've got grand L six and romo's eighth. Almost hit for average last year. Grendel the only catcher with twenty plus homers in each of the past three seasons. Give me your overall take on catching if you could. And also, why do you like wrandell better romo's? Health comes into play a little bit in terms of comp- contrasting those two. I also think Grundell skillset is perfect for Miller park. It's a Homer oriented ballpark is a home or ent player period. That's why he gets the edge to me over romo's much better ballpark situations in terms of the catcher approach for me. I'm gonna wait. Wait. Wait. A lot of the values that I am seeing a catcher aren't going to be the ones who lasted the end of the ESPN dress, and Eric I'm going to bet you probably agree with me. I would expect to see Mike Xenos bad part, but decent player. Good pop. Austin hedges, Danny Janssen, Francisco Mahia will probably be one of the players out there. And even then I'd go down to a catcher eligible it doesn't belong in the position Williams STO him. Yeah. Longhand amazing rep. And I think he gets at bats with its Wayne's all be a catcher, but he's eligible there. That's all I care about. I can tell you right now. I'm not taking Castro of the first twenty four thousand how many rounds are drafts. I'm not taking catcher until the five. Why would you? Yeah. And then closers kenley Jansen you still have them ranked your top closer. Although you have him at the as and kimbrel on the same range. I see a lot of people with Blake Trenton as the top closer off the board. And then David Robertson sign with the Phillies. He's the only guy I think that's moved on that. I would say is definitely a closer right now. In kimbro will be your thoughts your Robertson. You really think thirty saves or no Cody Allen, just to note another one who's moved on. And we'll close for his team. It was bad. Good is he? It saves. It's kind of the way Davis story from a year ago. We're we're not excited about the guy skillset, but he's gonna get saves. And Wade Davis was okay. Last season Robertson, I like the fit in Philly. I do I like getting out of the American League east. They're just not having to deal with some of those more hitting oriented ballparks. I'm not even gonna go so far into the lineups in that division. They're not quite as weighty as people think they are. But the analyst even though it's a little bit better. I like the park season the division that he's in. And I think he's going to get that job, Scott. He's got great stuff cookies. They're closer. I I think he's I think he's Sarangani Dominguez and some lefties the setup Domingas can be like five or six our guy. Robertson gets at least thirty saves. That's what I my my question about the closer position. And this very well could change based on the free agents out there. I look at closer, and I really only see about eight or nine absolutely ironclad. Sure things I feel like it's a little bit later this year. And I think that they are definitely sure things. Those guys in Roberson is one of them. But don't you feel that after that, it's a little sketchy s to roll, absolutely? And some of the closers that you have ranked really high may not even be getting saves. Josh hater, for example. I don't know if he's getting ten saves or forty. Sean Doolittle with the injuries Brad hand. I think is the closer Roberson. I think he is. But you know, you never really know. Britain's not gonna get saves more is probably out for half the season. I'll tell you what saves her a joke. I think the category should be saves plus holds. So if you're in a league where you can manipulate the categories what does that call day, you know, the kind of league I'm looking at here customer or that's the league. See that's why you're here because you're like a hall of fame answers because I know that it's a custom I believe we call them words of major league. That's it. So what I'm talking about seeing? Let's hold. I like say's push holds. I'm a regular Blake trying to over here. I like it. I like it. We're ranking you I on that note. I think it's halftime after this. Guess what we're going to do? We're going to answer your questions kind of south. You'll come aboard. And he'll tell us the questions that you posted on Twitter, and then Tristan who wins all his leaks every one of his league's Tristan wins. Oh, yes. Your questions. -nology truth. Brought to you by Geico. Truth. You will certainly send any text about your supervisor to your supervisor. What's Janet's fangs? 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The the screens that he works on might as well be written in Greek. I have no idea. Just like putting on an old pair of jeans. I feel so you can't imagine how much better I feel listening to this. I couldn't do the job. I couldn't do it to the other guy. You think I'm a gamer? I couldn't couldn't do it. Now. Just jump in whenever you want. And this is sort of your segment your with Eric thing. You can't game through the wrong hash Brown music. That's. I don't know. I think it's a mental block. It's a mental block. Like can't you? Absolutely. So you get a cop. See I got your. I'm here for you. But so is the Twitter crowd. I am going to always call for hashbrowns to shoot them at me anytime, we'll get as many good ones on the shows. We can Matthew is wondering what is Paul d young ceiling? If you saw it's between, carpenter and Goldschmidt. Could he be a top ten shortstop? That's a really good question. Questions. Never lets us down. Love the good questions. Tristan? We have no idea about lineups. Right at this point. I mean, it's a little bit early. It's still January and the snow on the ground. But we should find them out in about a month pulled the young could bet second. Right. That would that would matter, but they do that. I don't think the young batted second very much last year. I'm going to check right now. It was yadi a lot. I remember Yati or. Yes, yati. They had a strange line of construction Bater was hitting seven or eight a lot Yati was batting second. They had a strange approach. But that would change things for you. The the young went from say six to second you'd be like, oh, that's interesting. It could be Fowler Colton long. I don't know who it's going to be. But how do you view pulled the young it just in a general sense? Is he a top ten shortstop to you? Do you think that there's a thirty home run season lurking there? He was one of the players on. My most recent update that I did move up a decent amount. Because I see the power upside there the injury absence last year. I think explain some of the quote down year, but the fly ball production was pretty comparable to his two thousand seventeen. And as a matter of fact, the quality of contact in the final two months or so of the year was up. So I do like them as value pick. I don't think that he fits here in the discussion as the number two hitter. But if you've met him five, I don't care all of these things remain the case. And it just means more RBI, which I'll take it. I I mean thirty one hundred is that possible in this lineup. I I absolutely have to that. But you haven't ranked number twenty shortstop I had over a couple of these guys like semi Andrew Simmons. But manage we're is deep and third base is deep. It's not deep. First base deep. Third base is crazy deep by the way this year. I base I look at first base. And I think really this guy is ranked there, and like if you said to me are Eric has more pulled the young I can make a case for the young. Now, you have husband ranked one twenty five and the young one eighty three and I'm thinking the kind of comparable me, I get a shortstop to give me the power. The house was not going to give it's not the same batting average. I understand that. But that's that's your number thirteen first basement. Then it's max Muncie Carlos Santana, Jose Martinez. Even play go Cabrera whose old I mean, man, I think we could actually say truce in that third base and shortstop are stronger than first base this year. I don't think second base is what do you think of that too? Crazy. I don't think if you can trust. I and short. I don't think that's crazy. I feel like in the very low tears where you're getting into the only getting into the fifteen plus team mixed first-base feels a little bit safer. You're taking you're taking chances on roles at shortstop. But I agree with you in that in the mixed in the standard mix league context shortstop is a lot better than you think at first base a lot worse than you think. Leo what what is ESPN's standard lead? Now at this point. It would be a ten team mixed points league mixed point sleep. Okay. So in a general sense when I'm doing this show. And when I'm writing every day, I'm talking about rodeo, and sometimes it'll be points, but in general sense because I've been playing wroto for a really long time. And that's kind of my thing. AJ's things points, AJ mess who will be on this show, plenty and Tristan you play both. So we should do a better job of talking about points league's just regular conversation on the show. Sure. But in a general sense we're talking about road. I'm thinking about you know, how many stolen bases I'm going to get. I'm thinking about you know, things that may not matter as much appoint sleep because he just went one number. But I look, and it's not all about pulled the young like Dee Gordon appoint sleep. I don't want them in a row league. He's got to be a top hundred option. You know, he could still forty basis how many guys can do that five guys. So just so everyone that's listening. You know, both of you understand what we're talking about. All right. I would say this that if we are talking points that is what makes? First base a little bit deeper. I probably would tilt the scale. Yeah. I base over shortstop in the points. Like, I think it's fairly noticeable there because I base has a lot of a walkers. The guys basically on first base has has D has depth. If you want to fill out a roster for points leagues ale and only but in attend team standard, mixed your corner. Infielder might be somebody who's basically playing another position. I wonder if not like you may not be your corner. Infielder might not be Yuli gurriel this year might be jerks and profile nothing wrong with that. And I wonder whether the value over replacement and appoints league shortstop on the top tiers is going to be comparable to first base. I think it's going to be in those middle rounds that starts up suffers. And it's for that reason people that you don't look you're sitting there in round three thinking, how do I want Cody Bellinger? Or should I take a second or or shortstop guy? Just take the best available because I base is not so deep anymore that you say, oh, I'm going to void Cody Bellinger. And I'll just get my first basement later, and then you're. Stuck with Mitch Moreland or Justin board don't do that like board LA? You don't come on. I do it's a good fit. But that's it's an only league discussion in a deeply in a deep lake shore. Give me Justin born a last round or Ryan o'hearn, but you know, in a standard mix, you're not drafting those guys, right? Couple of quick things watchdog in here for you. Speaking of points leagues and points league rankings and things like that. By the end of today. I will have up our draft kit with initial cheats and rankings and all that stuff that are in part of that is AJ masses points league rankings. And so you'll be able to see where he ranks these guys relatives. So if you're playing into points, like if you're playing in a ESPN standard league like he's already got him as a preview. Yeah. There's eleven first base eligible guys in the top one hundred. So, you know, you're still got options there because you've got the Encarnacion and the gallows and the guys who were going to walk and get total basis, basically. So it is a little different, obviously. And so we cover those formats, and we will have that out there for you. And so then that led me to an interesting question for tristen. Speaking of the difference between first and third base. I noticed on your rankings that this is the hash Brown from Leo in Bristol. In your rankings that Vladimir Guerrero junior is a head of Joey Votto. And I'm curious is that just a Vlad has more upside because I feel like they're very similar players, especially until Vlad really grows into the power that we think he might have. And then obviously a first base verse third base. You know, maybe maybe I'm thinking I would rather have auto and probably either format maybe wrote more specifically because I think that God could just walk a ton in that lineup. But curiouser thoughts on that. It's a fair point here, and I feel like with fato I've been inching them up a little bit. And I might based on again, the spring returns healthwise, but I worry about the players who reached this age who don't have a lot of upside anymore and did miss time last season. I actually do think God is going to rebound. The thing with Vlad. I kinda feel like his floor is higher than Joey vodkas. I really believe in the guys talent. I think he's an exceptional hit or one of the most polished of any player to debut debut in MLB as long as I've been writing this stuff. So which I mean, I'm twenty. Five, but I've been doing it for what a quarter century. So I did it when I was an infant he's he's really exceptional. You know? I I love you, man. I look into rankings. I say you're just basing a lot of this off last year. I mean, Joey Votto number sixty one I'm going to have thirty spots. Fire. I just I can't I can't say oh now, he's a girl. He's gonna hit ten home runs hit. But thirty again, this is characterizing like I'm completely down on Joey Votto, Joey Votto, it was two hundred and twelve from the player raider last year. That's one year you are down on him. This one hundred twelve I have sixty I sixty I isn't that was two years ago. What was he two years ago two years ago? Okay. I'll dig it up for two years ago is so many analysts look at only what happened in the most recent season and say, oh, that's it. That's what he is. Now, it's a new baseline Giovanna could go back to when he didn't do seventeen which was fantastic. Okay. Joey twenty in two thousand seventeen with seventeenth on the player raider. Okay. Well, that's my point in an exceptional year. This was an exceptional year for him where at first base, and based on the level of homers, an RBI that were available. Of course, the league he did not get up there into the top ten not. I'm not going to criticize the guy fully here. I'm a lot closer to two thousand seventeen finish than I was to his twenty eighteen which is my point. I thought it over you have bought over flat. Because you've Latin you fifty where's motto for you vodka will be higher than Vlad where I just. I'll probably have auto in my late thirties. Early forties and gladly be probably my forties. But yes, if you like it all comes down to if you're in a draft. And you've got sixty seconds. Make a decision who are you taking for two thousand nineteen only I might change my mind on this on Vlad based on what the blue day say. Oh, yeah. It'll be two weeks. But yeah, like, I do this every year. You know me. I know evolve. Does not too old to put up the numbers that he put up in two thousand seventeen. Yes, he stopped hitting fly balls that doesn't mean he can't go back to hitting fly balls. Maybe he was hurt. And we don't know why. I don't know what he was doing. He hasn't. He also changed his swing before. Because he was quote, unquote. Like, we could just totally see him decide to change it. Again, Bado has the most fun stat out there, by the way, you've seen this over the years. He has one pop up his entire career to either the catcher I or pitcher catcher first baseman or pitcher somebody had that out there or else he hasn't at all. His pop up rate is insanely low this guy squares the ball up like nobody else's business in the game. Maybe I'll have them. Forty five when we're looking at March. I I wanna believe you know, what I'm saying. Just don't don't be so quick not you. But in in general, people don't be so quick to write off players who were really good before last season. You know, what else is insanely low? Kyle on this show. Let's do a quick quick cash. Browse now sorry. Sorry. You got Bill wants no quick differences between Chris Archer and Louis castio coming this year. He's been burned by both in the past. I will take Archer here. Let me check Tristan's rankings and probably has the opposite briefly your thoughts on these pitchers. I actually. I like Louis. Oh my goodness. You you don't like Archer at all. Well, you'll say I do I have number forty among starting pitchers. That's not liking you. Custodio scares me because of the home runs and the second half of last season. Obviously he rebounded to look more like the rookie that we saw but Archer in that ballpark. I I still think there could be something there. He can be in a league strikeout pitcher. I'm pretty likely to have Archer ranked ahead of Custodio. And that is the case I can see I'm not on board with it. The ballpark thing is relevant to me. I mean, he was in a fan road in Cincinnati homerun haven because well, okay, if you compare the two against each other, but Archer in terms of ballpark advantage. He had it in Tampa Bay. That is easily the American League's best pitchers park. This is a slider relied reliant guy that has practically nothing else to him and my worry with that is the amount of wear and tear. It's going to put on his arm year over year. Now, maybe that that doesn't come back to haunt him the season, but I worry about the longevity of his career here. And he's also underperformed peripherals for what something like three years in a row at what point do you like that the strike gets are absolutely valuable? But there are a lot of strikeouts in the game right now. This is kind of like, you know, the who's the player I use it wasn't Nelson Cruz. There was another guy who had nothing but home runs two years ago, and they weren't as valuable compared to the rest of the league. Because there's homers everywhere. That's interesting. Rick. We're Selo maybe. It was a hitter. It was it was a hitter where I was comparing his numbers that were four years apart in was the exact same number like hit forty homers and those forty homers were worth like twenty five percent less in the more recent year archers like that the strike outs on worth as much as they are. And Louis Custodio is a guy who I still think it's getting better. The guy's got a great change. If he's got a couple of different pitches that are plus I see everything you see in Custodio just inconsistency. And that's a problem for me. But you're right Archer is not as safe as maybe I think is just a lot of strikeouts and nothing else. All right. What else? What's next two quick ones? Here. John's got a dynasty keeper league question. He wants to know if you can sell them on Alex Rae is over Clayton Kershaw. You know, somebody's trying to get outs raise from me in a dynasty league. And I can't wait to trade him. I can't I am trying and we just can't agree on what? Well, basically, neither of us are paying attention at this point. But we will be soon. But I am not bought if you said to me over under an Alex race innings for two thousand nineteen I wouldn't take over on fifty. Would you fifty? Wow, come on, man. Look at what happened. I get it. That's now I love that you brought up the over under on innings because I I can't see anybody out there with the optimism to go even beyond one twenty. He might be a reliever too. That's the other problem. Like, he the reason I said fifty there is not only because I'm scared of him being hurt and missing three quarters of the year is because he could be there seventeen guy. He can be closer right now. They have Andrew Miller, Jordan Hicks. I think for the back end of the bullpen. They still have Luke Gregor seen Brett see. So they have guys. But I'm not even sure res- ready to pitch April. And if he does who knows how many innings he gets? Yeah. I think that the injury question is much larger with race. Even that it is than Kershaw, the only I would say, I would to the only possible case I can make for you here is that if you're in a keep forever, and you really like trying to be the one who says, hey, look, I was the smart one got the better career. You might get seventy eight great years of race two years down the road. But wouldn't you want Kershaw is good year this year and curse always play? Better. Yet your next year play from now even in a dynasty league. Play to win now flags fly forever. I want to win. Now. I don't have kershaw's mice top starting pitcher. But he's he's closed. He's top ten race. I, you know, guys like Jake Faria who I'm also trying to sell them, my Dyson simply. Yeah. Maybe he's an ace. Maybe it doesn't pitch and all I have concerns. I don't wanna I don't want to take that risk with starting young starting pitcher anymore anymore. Michael kopech is going to miss this year with Tommy John. I'm trying to train him in my dynasty leak. I'm just tired of being burned by these guys missing a year. Whereas you can get. Look using as an example. Okay. We've talked about him plenty on this show. Please I know for cell is going to pitch two hundred innings this year with one hundred seventy strike as I don't know if zero is going to be three twenty or four twenty but he got a pinch. I would take him over allies. And yeah, I mean, and I completely I love Alex race. You know, my opinion of his stuff. He's got great stuff and great potential, but the potential is not right here in front of them. I think it's a couple of steps ahead, and that's optimistic about here's the way. I'll put it for you you you're trying to treat for Alex race. Who's got major questions about them? Don't you contrast Kershaw against flat? Amir guerrero. Would you do that? Yes. That that. I would there's a good question. Okay. Now, would you contrast them against humans? You know, what we're all forgetting about Illinois who could easily be ranked just as high as flat as I love Eli. You know, I'm a big fan of his and. No know, if you love him based on your ranking, basically one more I think they are keeping him in the minors for a decent chunk of time to buy the extra year. But all right. We'll see I feel like e were the balance tilts here in the keep forever leagues with Kershaw. But at least Illinois in Vlad don't have questions healthwise that Alex raise the pitcher does the music stopped half an hour ago. So I think they're trying to tell us something. You knew to this show. We just talk and sometimes we stop all right, obviously, we're done. So as as Leo mentioned the game is launched please be patient with it. It will rock, but it's a work in progress. The articles will be up the rank is Leon get you my rankings as soon as I can as soon as I can figure out. Exactly, we're Adalberto modesty belongs. Because Tristan just has them in the wrong. I'll send them back if he's not top fifty. What else whole thing results today? Congrats Marian Rivera. It's ridiculous. He will not be unanimous selection. But no one will tire process is ridiculous. At least he's in congressional family, ROY halladay. I wish he can have seen. It. Looks like editor Martinez is getting in hopefully, Mike Messina that this year or next I have a hall of fame vote. And I think for five years, I will take it seriously and like so many others. But you know, that's my soapbox vote for. Yeah. You fill out your ballot, man. If you think the guys vote for ten guys, I don't understand voting for one or eight whatever it is at least ten players that are deserving of this honor and come on give him the honor. You know, what you can say whatever you want about Harold beans and many have. But that doesn't mean that, you know, everyone else should get in. You can't compare to players like that. All right. It's a flawed system. Thanks, everybody. Who makes this show rock on next show is on the schedule for two weeks from today. It's the first Tuesday February two days after the Super Bowl. We should all be in bucolic Bristol for that wants, no permitting. Thanks, of course. Everybody makes this show. Great Kyle Daniel, Leo tristen. And I'm here to thanks for listening. We look forward to the next show in two weeks have an awesome day. Dr does.

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 686  Another Batch of Call-Ups

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The Sleeper and the Bust Episode: 686 Another Batch of Call-Ups

"Hello. And welcome episode six eighty six of the sleeper in the it's Monday may thirteenth. I'm euros. Pulse. More and I'm joined by Justin Mason, Justin. How's it going, man? It's going well, my daughter's I play tonight. So that's going to be fun and interesting, and she's the lead in it. So. Ooh. Yes. She's playing Harry Potter in a Harry Potter play. So that's awesome. That's my hope it goes. Well. We are recording in the afternoon against going to be kind of a mixed bag. Sometimes it'll be after noon, sometimes it'll be morning just kind of depending on our schedules and your sleep schedule. I have an article due on deadline every Monday afternoon. So sometimes if you gotta get some sleep a works really well for me. So just kind of look forward. It's going to be out on Monday, we can guarantee that and we'll tweet out otherwise, but sometimes it'll be late after early afternoon sometimes it'll be late afternoon, but we're going to dive right into a little bit of a news episode, and then pick ups of the week the interesting players there. Nothing too crazy here. Let's start with the Yankees as we have relatively often this year already because of all the stuff they've been dealing with. Don't worry Yankee fans got a little bit of good news. But I gotta start with negative in. That's Maguelonne har- head right back to the I L clearly not not feeling well, not going right with him and the torn labor m-. And so this this can't be good. Yeah. Well, this is one of the things we talked about in terms of when he was coming back was the fact that he didn't get surgery on it and rehabbing out type of deal, and sometimes it works. Well, and sometimes it doesn't. So hopefully, this isn't something that's going to end his season. But yeah, it sounds like it could feel like it might are like are you Olding onto them in as long as I can. Despite all the heat McGaw Landa heart got for his defense. Which was which was do, you know, the bat was still incredible. And I think I want to say that in the short time that he got before things went sideways with the injury wanna save your saying defense was a little bit better. But I don't know. I know that's true. That's true. But I know since he's come back. It's been brutal again, and he's not hitting this eight won fourteen of eight was triples last. Yeah. This looks really bad from her. So I mean, if you're in the ten and twelve and it starts to come up. And you're you know, you're in a Justin situation where the injuries are piling. He he's pretty high at the top of the list of guys that I have to kind of make that cut with personally what if you're in the opposite situation. Let's say you're in a fifteen league, you're doing okay with injuries in somebody drops him or us swooping them up right away. Yeah. Why not if I have the situation where I can cut some some clown that I took a shot on which I'll use a personal example, like a Kelvin Gutierrez was just kinda few bucks. Just playing the hot hand there to see if anything came of that. I didn't really give it much time. It was a burn insurance on a deal. And then you move on from that. And then you can put Miguel harm. That's on see how long you can hang onto that until your own rash of injuries come than. Yeah. Why not why not because it could it could be a situation where it helps. Now, I wouldn't prioritize over somebody that I think can can help now 'cause don't don't get too comfortable with your reserve roster not having injuries. But yeah, it's something I would be open to considering. But what I really want to talk about with regards. This McGaw Enda Har injury. Is that does clear now the path for GIO or show to stick around a bit longer? And he's been on fires become a little bit of a cult hero for the Yankees because he's driving in runs like crazy. I wanna say like fifteen already in his one hundred and one plate appearances. In fact, just. In the last week alone. He has nine of those plate appearances which would pay out to just two hundred nine rabies, which I think he'll do. I think that's that's a fair pace to keep her shell at no. Is actually, you know, even kind of looking at what is done all year. He's probably pacing toward about eighty RBI's which even for geo or shell kind of interesting. I wanna lupin at other guy here too. He's not actually on the yank on the Yankees, but he's semi related. Make the Lincoln a moment to to Ronnie Rodriguez. But let's talk about GIO or shelhah who is on fire who was a little bit of a pickup this week. How did you feel about him was he's somebody you considered? And where are you on on our show as it relates to the end Har news because now his playing time is extended? I mean, he was almost like a Yang Di Di as light where obviously not nearly as strong as in. But the same kind of issues where people always wanted him to hit for a little bit of power, but his kind of ground ball profile just never really allowed. It haven't really changed that much. The only thing is he's getting extremely lucky on balls in play. He's three Ninety-two Babbitt for shelhah. Yeah. I mean, he's still got the huge ground. Ball tilt, forty four point seven percent ground balls to twenty six point three percent fly balls that park will help obviously. And a lot of the parks plays on in the road in the AL east will help. So he's a guy that if he did get fulltime playing time wrestle. I could see him hitting like two seventy to eighty Yemen's like twelve or fifteen home runs something like that. That'd be nice. That's the part. I'm not entirely sure on. I'd love to see if he could squeeze out double digit homers the rest of the way that would be nice right now or shall only has a twenty six percent flam ball rate, but it's God twenty nine percent line drive rate. So the three Ninety-two IMP is certainly something that's not going to maintain. I would say maybe it isn't just luck driven right now. Except for the fact that a twenty nine percent line drive rate doesn't hold. So you can keep an insane Babb if you could somehow maintain. Nearly thirty percent of your balls going for line drives. But that will start to come back to the now if those turn into fly balls, and he keeps clubbing the ball in a forty five percent hard contact rate than GIO show akin. Knock double-digit homers. I would agree with that. And I basically him in that Kelvin Gutierrez slot on my team this week. I scooped him up for thirty three bucks, which I didn't think was anything agreed just as far as a pick up here. And he's actually this is crazy that I even considered it in the end, I'm going with with megi. But I almost started GIO or shallow over McGill. Cabrera wouldn't actually have a problem with that. I legitimately gave a consideration. I traded Bill Carreira this morning to someone in a huge league. For Billy Hamilton. Wow. I need the speed. But yeah, I mean, it it is is like like, what am I really giving up in just some batting average kind of frustrating. So since I mentioned Tigers loop in running around ribs. Now, the reason I wanted to make the link is because he's a similarly hot prospect hot part time right now who's who's finding some fulltime playing time and he was a former Cleveland Indians prospect. So that's that's the link making here two guys that had some appeal as Cleveland prospects that are now finding their footing twenty seven year olds elsewhere, whereas urge shallows giving you the batting average and driving and all these runs. Rodney Rodney Rodriguez actually has some punch and he's really been smacking the ball around. He has fourteen extra base hits of his twenty hits. That's a rate that cannot sustain but seventy one ice. Oh right now is fantastic. Five homers, seven doubles and two triples. He is hitting the ball of forty seven percent hard hard contact rate. Six. Thirty two percent poll. Forty six percent fly ball that all adds up to Powell right there. If you have hard contact high poll high fly ball that's power right there. And again that stuff will smooth out. But how did you feel about Ronnie Rodriguez on the waiver wire this week? And how do you compare the two who do you favor between earth show and Ronnie Rodriguez kind of depends on what you need. If you need a little bit of punch. Go ahead and grab Rodriguez. We need a little bit of average in probably some counting stats around. Then terms of runs and Rb is better team than leaving her show. One of the things that's definitely not going to stain for Audrey is that twenty one percent strikeout rate because with the way he's selling seemingly selling out from how he's going to forty seven percent owes wing right now. And in fifteen percent swinging strike rate like these are all numbers that add up to again, the power can hold because of the Batta ball profile. But you're right. The strikeout rate probably go up upwards of ten points into the thirties. I would think that average to eighty six averages. Crater at some point. And I just I have a hard time believing in in a point three seven one ice out. Just. Wild. Yes. Been wild. That being said, I mean, you just kinda stream intil. He cools down which could be tomorrow. It could be two or three weeks from now. So yeah. Like, just grab do the Colton long thing and grab him and then ride until it. It seems to have faded and go grab someone else. That's how I felt about. Both are shelhah an Rodriguez was to play while you can right now. And obviously that certain leagues ten team. No twelve team. Probably not fifteen teams when you start to consider it a only they're probably both been roster now for a couple of weeks, but you kind of. You know, let it let it ride and see where you can take it. And then as sorts of die out you find the next version of this. And this is the burning turning of the back end of your reserve roster. So yeah, I think I would favor I agree with you. I think it would come down to the categorical need if I just need the raw pop just take Rodriguez because even if the average comes down to two forty I think it can still continue to hit homers and deliver the power. But if you want batting average than our shell is your guy on our show that I just noticed her shallow of batters who've had at least a hundred plate appearances this year. He is the fourth lowest soft contact percentage. Wow. So he met carpenters got five point six Christian Walker six point five just Turner six point seven and that he and JD Martinez or tied at seven point nine for fourth place allow list. How is continuing on with that for shallow his three twenty eight expected batting average so taking all of his calculations and generating a batting average is three twenty eight top three percent. So again that batting average is something that you should feel pretty comfortable with for shallow. Even as the bab- comes down. I think some of the other factors that he has in his game will keep them in that to eighty range, which is a quality batting average. So there you go those two guys if they're still available kind of balance your needs a stick with the Yankees and get some positive news here Aaron Hicks returning. In fact, if the game goes off tonight because they're really dealing with potential rain. He will lead off in this game. And Mike talk men gets sent down unfortunate for him to get a big day yesterday. Trying to get something going I feel like he could have carved out a role for himself in some capacity if he had succeeded but to thirteen fourteen four twenty seven just wasn't getting done that did add up to. A ninety nine WRC plus, but that that means you're replacement level almost on the button. That's the exact Mark of a replacement players. So that means that you're dispensable to go back down. But let's focus on Hicks here. Obviously, he's not someone that you can pick up although check your wires. You never know especially in Scholley show. He could have been dropped, especially if injuries piled up for somebody. And they just had I gotta move on. But what do you expect in this year out of out of Aaron Hicks? And I know we've talked positively about him. Are you still excited about what he could deliver this year? Sure. I mean, he's a guy that can offer power and speed in one of the best lineups in baseball. Once it's healthy. So you have to be excited that he's back. Obviously, he's missed you know, almost two months of the season, which is unfortunate for having to hold onto of all this time. But like why can't he do what he did? And maybe like two thousand seventeen to sixty six in fifteen home runs and stole ten bases. I. I see no reason he can't do that. This the only, you know. Caveats that is he's injury prone. He's a guy that's had a really hard time. Staying on the field over the course of his career. So and Hicks is going to score runs, even as that lineup isn't at full capacity. I think it's good enough to still generate plenty of runs and then as they add the Stanton's and the judge and DVD's back and really start to round out that lineup then all hell can break loose. And frankly, if there I don't remember all the time for those guys, but let's say they're kind of clicking by early June. There could be enough for one he's going to do. Now, if if he stays healthy if you get four and a half months here out of Hicks. He can almost put up a full seasons worth of runs scored based on on that offense and his OB p skill if they really going in the right direction. So yeah. Love Aaron Hicks. I do sees only seventy five percent at ESPN. And I say only because I think he should be one hundred so. Sure. Leagues like that. The only reserves on the fall in two two is Eli L and three reserve. So I mean, if you were in my type of situation in the main event, you probably had to make hard cuts, and there was a longtime where we didn't even have a timetable for hick. So exactly and with his history. Like, you mentioned if you're not as excited about him as as we've been in past years, you might not have had the attachment to say and hang on hick. So yeah, shall leaguers definitely go check and see what's up with that. Mike talk men are you hanging onto him and like an AOL only or you just cutting free for the reserve spot. I'm probably cutting. If there's anybody of interest to me because I mean stint should be back here shortly. Yeah. I mean, they lost so many outfielders to create that spot for him that you know, even Cameron. Maybe that's the thing. If talk had performed he probably could have pushed out Cameron Mabon, but it was Mabon who's actually been doing some things so credit credit to him. I was always had a soft spot for camera maiden. So I hope he keeps performing not that. I'm betting on it in any real capacity. Plus he's two for four on the basis. So I like that you're trying but maybe don't get caught so often. All right. Finally, Oakland fans rejoice, I feel little mean being so joyful of someone losing their job. But I never understood why they got candidate rows in the first place to fill in for Olsen while he was gone. Chad Pender should have been a full-time player. I'm sorry. I just don't think that they need. Needed to get Kendrick Morales, and he'll probably latch on somewhere else. Because he's still has some intriguing numbers underneath his underneath his poor results. Right now, he's smacks. The ball. He's probably pretty high on that soft contact rate list. You're looking at because he only has a ten percent, Mark. The problem is a lot. It's a lot of it. Oh. Excuse me, talking difficult. A lot of it is ground ball contact that he can't turn into hits. Because he's arguably the slowest player in the freaking game. So you'll love the sixteen percent strikeout for tender smells. You'll all the eleven percent walk rate ill love the forty seven percent hard contact rate forty-three, excuse me. But he doesn't generate results with it. Now, maybe he gets hot again latches on with another AOL team. I'm cutting him pretty freely right now. I'm not too worried about hanging on the thirty six year-old Morales. If he lands somewhere where I think he can get time I'll reassess in an AOL only. But the real important part here is to talk about what it does to the rest of the team, obviously Olson's taking back. I Chris Davis is back from his little hip thing, which I didn't even facilitate an then he was just kind of benched for a little bit. So now, we're looking back at Pender to maybe get in the lineup via the Robbie Grossman era area. Again, two weeks in a row. I'm a loser loser. And both. Times that we did it like no excuses. But yeah, I'm a loser jerks pro far has been struggling to. So I do think Pender could carve out some time here. I think if he's still if he's really Ailey OFI is but even in fifteen mixer, I saw him get cut a bunch. I'm kind of putting him back on my on my reserve watchlist. What do you think about that Pinter and Oakland Pinter's guy that I've had a couple of deeper leagues just held onto the only problem is the as have a few minor leaguers that could find their way on you, including my boy, Franklin Bredow who's not necessarily hitting well in Tripoli, but my other Boyer hor hayme Matteo who this boy point points at himself on an audio medium wrote about the other day in a little little piece ten was about high performers in the high minors. So guys. Could be knocking on the door here and didn't Matteo. Matteo speech. It didn't know. So are you sure about that never mind? I'm on. I'm on Franken. Brenta's pitch. Yeah. No. I get good players. I did. I did good players. So Franken, bro. But yeah, I mean Matteo is absolutely crushing the ball. He's got four home runs eleven stolen bases in auto. Three thirty eight of three seventy six five eighty one. This is a guy that for those who don't know about him has had like ninety grade speed and was a former like top top top prospect like a top five top not stunner, by the way. Like people would say, yes, the scale goes to eighty he's like ninety Horry Matteo has blinding killer speed regular top one hundred guy peaked probably in the top thirty on a couple lists. But then regularly for three years running. He was he was in those top one hundred lists. I don't know if he made them this year not coming into the season. But still just twenty four years old tearing it up in Vegas Matteo. You mentioned Baretto also a prospect of his own accord profile has been brutal and has the that's second base. I can get both of our guys you pick one. If you want Matteo Baretto, they can have second base them. Avoid Pindar gets left field. 'cause Robbie Grossman is gross. I mean, still really living up to his last name. I'm sorry. It's the easiest lamest pun. But when you're putting up a seventy seven WRC, plus with a one ninety four average, what am I going to say that it's not gross, man. Come on. It's right there for me. So we can get Pinter and Matteo in this lineup and really turned some fortunes because their offense struggled, and I think they are primed for a little bit of a run here with with Matt Olsen coming back and kind of getting things going the right way. We'll see though because I do think they should maybe consider some of the youngsters coming up and making an infusion. Josh vaguely has weirdly been performing. It's been mostly tied to a couple of games. But I think he's kind of held Sean Murphy at bay who's a catching prospect that I don't really mess with catching prospects. I never miss catching Russia. Yeah. But if he came up to catcher leagues, you'd have to consider although I m seeing right now, he's got a little injury tag on on roster resource. So maybe that's that's that's putting off to the side there, but Baretto and Matteo are on the forty man. So they don't they don't need an extra move to really get them up. So we'll see what's what they're keep an eye on things in Oakland. But primarily Morales was done because Davis is fully healthy again and Olson's rows will catch on. And like, you said there are some interesting things going to the underlying profile just to comment on one of the things you said about him, though, he is the tenth worst. According to. Prince major league baseball nine those nine clowns. Brian McCann at the top of the slow yet. He's literally rated a zero in MLB the show zero speed twenty two point four feet per second. It's not good. That's really really bad. Wilson Ramos Albert poodles yacht. Air Molina, his use yonder Lonzo Justin Smoak, Chadwick and Todd Frazier all make sense except for Frazier. I thought that he would be he the injuries must have just ravaged not that he was a burner when he was stealing because he was one of those more like heady base stealers. Todd. Frazier was but yeah, that makes a lot of sense there. So hey, good on you can just for not being last. Let's move on Dave Robertson shut down for three weeks. This pick is looking like a bust, and I was really I loved the move, and I know gave Campbell tendencies and everything I kind of thought that he would just. Assert himself as the man in that bullpen, and you can't really do that when you're not healthy. So you know, like I said it's turning into a bus pick. But it's because we couldn't really predict the injury. I don't think that they look at it and say, oh, we we've we fumbled. That don't. I don't. My victory lap or any. Yeah. I don't think anyone catches a w on this one. When it's six thirds of injury with six strikeouts squad. I faded him. Because of my reasoning even though that never really came to fruition of this is unfortunate. Yeah. For for him. And hopefully, he can come back. I mean at some point or I don't know. I mean, this point does it look like seem like Tommy John because that means he's probably out till midsummer, or even maybe all of the majority of next year to which would basically expire that contract because it's two years with third auction. Yeah. It's the Tommy John. I mean, this thirty four year old reliever, man. I mean, again, I liked the move. This is not saying, oh, this is what you get when you buy. But you you incur risk when you pick up any pitcher. But then once they get into their mid thirties. We've talked about this before there doesn't have to be stair step to coin it can just go. And unfortunately, we may be seeing that what they hope not hope. Everything's all. Right. But he's not even he's not even being looked at right now for three weeks. And so he's a cut everywhere if you were still hanging on easy cut move on to give gift knock, then I agree. I agree. What if you were for some reason just desperate for your saves and hanging on gone now? Do you think anybody does take that role or they going they've kind of leaned on Hector nurse? Do you think he's the full on guy? No. I think that we're going to see a committee for the most part. Of sorts unless they decide to go out and get someone, but they gonna call kimbrel after the draft. I wouldn't be surprised. I mean that would be the smart move is go get a guy who can kind of shore up the back end of that bullpen and just adds talent in there because I mean, this is a team that is competing right now. There are three games up in the division. They said they wanted to spend stupid money this year, and they did. And why not just go ahead and spend some more kind of add to that bullpen. I I think they should I picked up to San disarray. Anthony Dominguez this year or this week in a league. Yeah. He was he was floating on your lot of leagues just on the safe side. You never know when hectic could turn into Hector Narus, and in that would probably leave him is kind of the front runner in that closing job. I agree and one of the things about narrates. So he had a stint down in the minors last year and pretty much sense. He's come back from that. He's Ben amazing so credit where it's due. But one of the one of the issues that still kinda lingers overhead is home runs. And that's just the worst thing for a closer, man. Use a couple of games via the home run and you're out. Now, I will point out that with relievers samples right now, I actually figured there would be a couple more homers. It's only been two as two homers in your fifteen in the third innings. Can give you a one point two Mark. But again, it's there he's a one point four for his career. It is something that just be aware of it was two point one last year, the homers, really ballooned and caused issues for Hector Nerissa. Just I agree with the Sarangani any league that that merits middle relievers. It has value for those mineral levers with big strikeouts and potentially impressive ratios to help. His ratios haven't been great Dominquez. But the strike outs are still there. And he really has a couple bad outings ballooning, his his numbers there since the three run outing on on April sixth against Minnesota. He's got to seventy seventy RA and seventeen strikeouts against just two walks in his last thirteen innings with three and record and three holds. So you could still some wins there with Anthony joining us because he is going to be in high leverage situations as a setup guy. So I think that was a good pickup by you. All right moving on now to the White Sox. Either him in is cleared for rehab. So he's working way. Back. Can we get can we get the Ol-? Ronald the kunia thing where it was looking bad before his injury comes back and just sets the world ablaze. Obviously, there's no nothing magic about getting hurt. And then coming back, but what is your outlook on on Illinois Eloy Jimenez, the rest of the year? I think we can get a kind of. I mean, obviously, he's not gonna have the same level of fantasy impact that a hand because he doesn't have the stolen base ability Zach. But I think he could easily hit for average and power. It's a good park for it. It's a team that really prioritizes power parentless. So. Tim Anderson in in your own Moncada. I think maybe there's a little bit less pressure on him. I don't know if that was you know, he's kind of in his own head and try to swing his way out of it. And then got hurt doing. So remember his grandmother passed to just a lot of things all at once there. So I mean, it's hard to kind of look at his profile insurance at the majors and see really anything super encouraging. These year to buy though that being said, yeah, just throw that out throughout that 21-game game sample, and I look at what he's done in the minor leagues. And just what kind of hitter he was and and you kinda just dream on, you know, the potential for him to come up hit twenty home runs rests away with like two eighty to ninety average. I mean, how many guys off the wire are going to be able to come and do that. And he's available in some leagues. Boy, if is available in your league you go snap him up right now because. Yeah, I mean, you find these leaks. No, some you've probably rolling your eyes. And there's no league where he's a bailable not every league like your experience is not everybody else. And so you don't think that, but we, you know, we get tweets we get we get emails from folks that talk about stuff like, oh, yeah. This guy's available like what? Go get him immediately. Yeah. Or league Hades prospects that they don't if they don't do anything. They immediately get rid of them sixty eight percent on ESPN they catered attend team leaks. He's available in some leaks. Go check your way your wire. So that's a lawyer as quickly. I'm excited about him too. We're not in the same league. So you can tip your hand a little bit here. At least give some thoughts. He should be back right around the time that we're drafting next week, or we will know more firmly that he's a few days away. Where are you trying to get away a minute? I think the last time we did the check in here you were saying late one hundreds early to hundreds you still think that's going to be viable to get him. I mean as long as he doesn't come back up a few days before it hit like two or three home runs or something like that or hit four homers in four at bats at his rehab. I mean, if he goes off, then we're gonna be paying, you know, top hundred forty two hundred thirty kind of prices, but that being said, yeah, I think we'll probably see him go around pick one eighty to twenty something like that in. I'm totally stoked. If I get up at that price considering I paid like a in in the championship. I think I paid like a one ten one twenty price tag coming into the season. So yeah, no. I I feel that I'm not trying to make an all all about our teams or what? But yeah, I paid paid the premium in the in the main event pick eighty one I was ready to jump and try to get the next big thing because of his power potential there. So I'm very eager for him to return, by the way, I was kind of looking at the draft the other day. It happens, you know, pick four hundred burn churn. But guess who I drafted and then cut before I got anything from because he was in the bullpen. Oh god. No, not really, I don't know our team Perez. There are a lot of people who dropped him we had to three bad relief out. And even if you thought he was going to become the starting. Okay. I stand by not just 'cause I did I'm not trying to make myself feel better. It's like the pick four hundred burn churn. And we've talked about this before if you don't have any regrets or make any any of those sorts of mistakes. You're probably not making enough moves. You're just sitting on everything in fear that you're going to drop a Martine Peres, you know. So I also picked up John means and Lucassie Lido and they've been good. So it's kind of comes out in the wash. But I did see that as like dang. I was I was pretty hyped on him. And and I was buying into the spring training stuff. And then I don't have any regrets. So for this year because most my team's been crappy anyways, so dead regret. I am. I just pulled up my main event draft board. And it's just one huge row of red X's sh. I'm catching up to you. By the way, I have three reserve spots that don't have a red suitcase right now. Well, the beautiful part about it is like every time. I get someone back. Someone else goes know. It's a really really fun way to spend the season. 'cause you know, you get guy back like Jacob regard. And then you lose patriots drope. You get you get a guy like Blake snow, and then you lose well still waiting on the Nelson Cruz news. But look good, by the way, I didn't include that maybe I should have. Everything's looking good at their thinking that he won't need an I L stint for Nelson Cruz. That's that's positive, but I still have six guys on my. Reserve less with. It's been fun life. It's been brutal. We won't turn it into the listen to our teams our, but I want I want to ask one more question about the upcoming dress, by the way, if you haven't signed up just goes Lee spots only three spots left, minus filled. Your draft is made twenty fifth at ten eastern yet PM eastern get in there, folks. These are going to be fun. These are going to be drafting soon the draft start next week, which by the way, I was listening to Sirius XM today. Greg Umbro's was on he he's part of the head of NFC. He's talking about how he and Chris Lewis someone told Chris list, you should have gotten in the first one because there's no ATP it's the wild west. I didn't even think about that. And you and I had our pick of the litter because we are kind of early telling them. Hey, what if we are able to fill up leagues, can we can we get in? If if we can fill some leagues here would have been I really wish I would have done. Because now we're gonna Bill. I I don't think there's one on Wednesday the twenty second. So I don't know. Maybe it's me off jumped in another one. There's a lot of spots left and this there's still spots one hundred eighty total teams. It's three fifty. So I understand that not everyone's got three fifty and knock around for a for a midseason team. But it's going to be a lot of fun in definitely gonna talk more about we still nine spots that eight o'clock one on the twenty second. Maybe I believe that's the debut. Maybe I'll just jump in on another one. If my wife will let me because I mean that that like it's gonna be the wild wild west one's gonna be insane. And then it will start. You know, there's another one two hours later. So they'll start to over lab. And there's two more the next night. It's eight and ten for those first three weekday nights. And then a bunch running on those we share the ADP on that at all said, they will have some. Guess so we'll be able to kind of check those and see what's what I'm so excited. This is such a cool idea. I'm just really getting to see what happens. One more thing on them before we get back to the news. And then talking about some pickup players junior. Where where where's he going? Do you think in these drafts? Let's say, okay, we have to keep putting up with because we're still a little ways out. Let's say he keeps you know. He starts to meander up. But it's not a sky rocket up. Let these one ninety one to eighty three to thirty four right now. Let's say he is hitting two forty three thirty. Three ninety. He hasn't quite gotten over the four hundred slugged yet finally gets that first Homer. But it's still like one good game to mediocre once you still just kind of meandering by the time you're draft hits. Where do you think you're taking flat junior? Probably or where does it need to go for you to take my should say, I think he needs to drop out of the tops heaven div. I don't know, man. Okay. I have a I think that's possible. Yeah. Anytime after the top fifty and I'm probably going to jump on them. Even even if he's still hitting what he is now. And I know there's there's the risk that they'll send him down. I'm with you thousand percent. This was a guy that we were taking knowing where he was going to miss the first two months of the season or month and the season in the top fifty like so like if he drops out of the top fifty he's not gonna miss any time. Let's see it's back down like you have to bang on the skills just throughout this. It's only thirteen games that like throw thirteen game sample and look at those numbers that were like breaking the Bank of projection system. So yeah, I mean, if he falls outside of the top fifty there's no way, I'm not grabbing. I again verbatim. Reiterate shit. One of my guys got called up from my. From my piece that I did Lopez on the way up. Let's go interesting ones about I'm real quick. Yeah. Just real quick here. Sorry, breaking news naming the cut up again. I just fully agree on on where I'm taking Vlad junior here. Yeah. Nikki Lopez for KC, another interesting guy that that I included in that piece about high-performing minor leaguers, and this just goes, and I always tell these these folks this on Twitter, and they might twitch dreamlike when so and so going to get caught up and say, I can't even get the guys who know what the hell they're doing here, the kylie's and the era of the world to commit because they know how fraught is with volatility. So I'm not going to throw some crap against the wall and trying to tell you guys, I'm sorry. I'm not trying to cop out. It's just worthless. Because I didn't really think he had a great opportunity right now based on what they had Nikki Lopez. And now all of a sudden here he is this dude hit three fifty three four fifty seven five hundred AAA with three homers nine steals. Four percent strikeout rate and a fifteen percent walk rate. Like, he's decimating fools right now. It's been fantastic. So I called him the quintessential Royal a speedy defeat. Bender with a high contact rate. So he's a middle infielder. Now, one of the things I put in the piece was that. Maybe if what mayor field went more to the outfield and started to push the the Billy Hamilton's of the world out of the outfield a little bit. I was thinking more centerfield, but they roster resource now has him in right field with Nikki Lopez going to second base. I got a comment that said that they wanted to use him less in the outfield because of wear and tear, and they backed it up they had an article to a trade. Rumors peace, and yet that just tells you how even when we have an article backing something up. It doesn't mean anything because then five minutes later. This is two days later may eleventh is when that article was posted that the guy. Quoted with and then two days later. He's now basically a fulltime outfield there for Nikki Lopez to come out. But anyway, if you need the speed jump on this like I said quintessential, Royal he's got great speed. But he has really interesting played skills right now. Of course, they're not going to stick at four percents strikeout. Fifteen percent walk but he's always had more strikeouts. More walks than strikeouts almost entire career or at least a one to one. So I'm really intrigued by what Nikki Lopez can do. I hope he doesn't go to bananas this week or else the prices are going to be through the roof. But if you need speed, Nikki Lopez is your guy. He's an interesting. I honestly never heard of I discovered him in tune with the minor leagues. Spar I discovered him earlier this off season kept an eye on them and then included him in this piece. So I'm excited. This is this is this kind of one of my on my guys here. So hopefully, Nikki Lopez can kinda hit the ground running pun full. Intendant and and do some things there. But let's get back to the news quickey here because we kinda knew it was coming like a hundred percent. I thought it was already done but Carl on officially getting TJ. Dynasty. What do you doing with Carlsberg on trying to buy here or you just push off and taken a used subway ticket for for him in just pushing off at this point. It's really unfortunate. Because this is a kid who had a lot of promise. I mean, this is what your podcast was ten step. There's no such thing as pro pitching, prospect processing. Yeah. It just. Just. You don't wait on a guy like this is probably not gonna be back until mid to late next year at the earliest so in dynasty. He's twenty six now by the time, he even really gets back on the mound for full season twenty eight so you just kind of cut loose and let someone else ways that spot on their I L or on the reserve list. I totally agree, and it sucks because I do like Carlos for Don. And he'll he was doing some good things this year. I had him a top thirty pitcher rests. He got pummeled by Detroit, and you're like bad outing or what bad outing next time out. And then, and then I l which at least it gives like just just for posterity can't get rid of those numbers or anything if you if you had Rodion, and you definitely did if you were using them against Detroit. But at least it wasn't just like I can't figure out pitching bad at fantasy baseball. He was likely hurt during that game. Right. I mean, come on dominated that team. They don't just rise up for eight runs against him for no reason in the one, you know, solace is that. His numbers his surface numbers. Now, you know, look like a little bit like garbage. And so if you do drop chances are he's just going to sit out there on the way where you could pick them up mid to late next year. You know, he should still be out there. No one's gonna be drafting him going going it as a stash Rodion is going to be a forgotten, man. And we've seen guys kind of come back from, you know, from the deaths here at in their late twenties, and he certainly could. But there's no reason to use roster spots on right now. All right. Let's move over to to pitching debuts that I believe both happened yesterday yesterday being Sunday the twelfth. So there was no NFC potential for either of them Cole Irvine, Philadelphia and Corbin Martin of Houston both debut. Now, they're vastly different. Just in what they do. Colour oven was sitting eight with his fastball and limiting the walks and kinda just survive. Having that way corporate Martin was sitting ninety six had a forty five percent strikeout rate in his five hundred third innings and was really kind of that fireball type. So let's start with Martin. I think he's the more alluring prospect here, and then we'll get to urban. But yeah. Carbon Martin gets his shot is calling McCue out. Now. I mean, I would think he is at this point. This was a little bit surprising that they moved on for McCue earliest moved into the bullpen so quickly. I know you've been bad. But one of the reasons we we kind of talked him up a little bit in draft season. Was I felt like he had the best shot to stay a starter. Yes. All right at least between him and peacock, and they're you know, after peacocks lots out and just you know, they're going to keep rolling with him there. Yeah. I think he's pretty much done in terms of fantasy value except for in your really deep formats. No, I totally agree that dude more. We haven't seen the guy. I just saw that. I was going to do the did it do do. But wait, what do you? What do you got what you're writing? Okay. Okay. I didn't I I can be. And you're looking at the page Nydia. How many yeah so finish up on on Martin here? And then we'll get into that breaking. I mean Martin the service numbers from yesterday. Look, really, really good. I would caution that if you watch the start the Rangers looked really really bad just made some awful swings. He goes off again this week. I think he faces Boston the price is going to be just ours in phasing Boston this week because I think everybody would be spending like, you know, hundred plus on him in lake said, yeah, if he does go off or at least hold his own against Boston. I could see people just go crazy. I will not be one of those people. There was only ten swinging strikes that he had in that game. I don't think he. I don't think he's nearly as good as he showed. He definitely struggle with walks in the minors. This is something that could end really poorly or he's fallen l-. Yeah. I mean, it could be really good. I mean, you don't you don't strike out as many guys he struck out nine in five innings five. So like, you don't do that without having some level of talent. But I see this go really really horribly wrong. And I'd prefer like Griffin canning to him rest the way. So if you weren't I think fair, if you have you were willing to spend the money on gaining, you shouldn't be willing to spend the money on corporate burn. Sorry corby. Martin so yeah, that's Cobra Martin for for Houston coal Irvine urban excuse me is you know, the other end of the spectrum here. More of a soft Hoster kit letting type. Yeah. Left-hander with three pitches and definitely going to have to work on on the margins and really be fine. Seven innings of. Solid ball seven percents when you didn't walk many. I think only walked one. Yeah. Walked one struck out five in seven innings looked sharp. Is there anything here to look at with coal urban of the Phillies? I think he's more of a streamer. Kind of rest the way he's not a guy that I'm running out to kind of rush and pick up, but because there aren't going to be strikeouts, really involved. But I think he's a guy that I think his skills will play OK the park worries me a little bit in Philadelphia. But he's he's done a decent job. You know in the minor leagues of limiting home runs for the most part. So which you like and you can. Yeah. Hey, don't walk is don't give up homers. You can you can survive and. Tanked. So I think that's I mean, it's it's a I think it's a usable profile, but it's not a guy that I'm rushing out to grab. Yeah. I think that that's completely fair there with coal urban from Philly. Now again to the breaking news, another one of my guys from that. I'm super geek done this man, I did not expect to these guys to be up so quickly from the the high performance in the high minors. Oscar KADO perhaps my favorite off the off the entire list though, too because I was really excited about him coming into the season. I thought he should have had a chance to break camp because of that treacherous bad outfield. And the fact that I just have not ever believed in Tyler NAACP win is his injury. Nake winds injury that will facilitate an Oscar KADO recall, and I'm pretty excited about this to ninety four three ninety six four ninety six slash line. At AAA with four homers fourteen for seventeen on the basis of. These guys Lopez and Mercado are speedsters thirty one actually thirty seven. If you add up both triple A periods last year for Mocatta because you came over from the cardinals organization and got six more with the Indians AAA so there anyone with them six with the Indians, then thirty eight thirty three fifty twenty six in just sixty games Mocatta is a speedster. But he also has a little bit of a hit toy. I don't think he's going to get the bat knocked on his hands type of deal. I'm really excited about this twenty four year old. I'm more excited about him than even Nikki Lopez. Although they're they're neck and neck here. What do you think about Ricardo with Cleveland? I don't even think they're neck and neck. I think we're caught does the really really interesting guy. 'cause like you said that the dumpster fire that has been the Cleveland outfield. This year is in dire need of someone. I thought it would be Bradley Zimmer, but he's kind of taking a little bit longer to come back from his off season shoulder surgery. Than. Than than expected so MacOS going to get the chance here. And I think Mocatta was a guy that could potentially steal fifteen to twenty bags rests away in this environment that super valuable so I like Mercado allot, Matt Thompson's talked a lot about how much he really liked him in the cardinals organization, but they just never gave him a shot because if their outfield situation and so getting that opportunity now in in Cleveland should be beneficial. I mean, it's it's a team that doesn't have a great lineup necessarily. But it's not an awful one. And you can if you can add him kind of towards the, you know. Probably he'll probably unfortunate probably be in the back half of the lineup when he plays. But for now McConnell could certainly work as way up. You know? I mean, no reason Jason kipness should be hitting second in this lineup. Anyways. I just yet. It's ridiculous. But yeah, I mean, I would say legit. Hope. He doesn't steal two or three bases before runs. Because again, he's going to be gone for like where excited to these guys get called up, and then we're we're wishing for tepid performance before the before the area, but you know, we're still excited. Police suck for a little bit excited but kitchen like one week being mediocre, but then immediately hit the ground running that next Monday. When I have you on my team thanking Zack. So. Yeah. Beggars can't be choosy. If Gopez in Makoto come up star beating when you gotta pony up. Then so be it again with all these guys with Lopez Ervin Martin or KADO goes back to something we talked about last week just understand the risk, right? Do a full risk assessment here. What is the likelihood that they go back down very quickly? What what does their leash? Look like what was the path to their opening. What would happen? If that player that created the opening comes back and pushes them out. Like do all that. And then understand what the pay. I didn't interpret your message as never spent on prospects or be very cautious with in terms of of those aggressive spends on guys you think can be game changers. I took it more as just go in is wide open and realized that your two hundred dollar bid could blow up in your face. And then you just you know. Twenty percent out the window right now on to the next if you're comfortable with that. Then by all means, but you have to be comfortable. I think what it is is that is much as we anything. Prospect analysis has never been better. It has been ever at any point in the history of fantasy. Maybe even the baseball. I mean, we are so in tune with the minor leagues we get. We have such great guys out there. Doing amazing work ten covering the minor leagues. Even from just from the fantasy side. Wasn't that long ago where there was no such thing as a fantasy prospect of alligators just you know, just didn't exist in. So like guys like James Anderson in Matt Thompson like they do amazing jobs kind of looking at the minor leagues. But the end of the day they're still projecting guys that have never had a major league at bat. And so like it's still a little bit of throwing crap against the wall and see what sticks. Now, we have a better idea of what is stickier than what is not. But there's a chance it just falls right off, you know. And we don't know how teams are going to react to slow starts. We don't know. How teams are just going to play around with things. And so there is a ton of risk in kind of going after these guys wasting not necessarily wasting, but using a whole lot of fab on them. So just, you know, be wary of that in not saying that if you believe in if talents coming up that you believe in you shouldn't go full bore just know that there's a there's a chance that they're going to get. Sent back down. You just got to be prepared with Mercado. We talked about how bad the Cleveland outfield has Ben we've talked about all year. So, you know. Hope can stick. But also been talking about how Cleveland is okay with running those guys out there. So like, there's they could just be like listen you aren't crappy enough for this situation. And they send who good. Yeah. Gotta send you back down. So. Yeah, in you know, Nikki Lopez. If they don't want Mira field out in the outfield. Well, then that would put some pressure on him. Because obviously, he's not gonna shortstop and take Mondays jobs. So, but I think both these guys do have a chance to stick, particularly if they perform so we're going to see what the bids like this weekend. But I'm pretty actually two more guys here that that came up. We'll see what's up with them shed long and j p Crawford to prospects for the Mariners get called up over the weekend. And they were actually already in the bidding, but they weren't full-scale guys. They didn't get picked up everywhere. So if they performed they would actually be part of a frenzy this week to if they had big weeks talked to us about shed long JP Crawford who you like best and doesn't look like Gordon is hitting the I L. So I think that that maybe puts them in a little bit of doubt right now until we know the full status of of Gordon. So go ahead. Tell us about that. Well, I mean, this is an interesting situation because one of the guys I like more. More for fantasy in terms of his overall upside in what I think he can do ofensive -ly right away at the major league level. And then one guy liked to kind of stick on that team. And so I prefer shed longer shed. Yeah. Prefers shed longs offense of ability. And I mean, he's got power. He's got speed. This is of former prospect of the reds and trade. I believe this off season was indeed wasn't he traded to New York. And then to secret he was like summit fall league and really liked him. He was kind of one of my I didn't know a whole lot about him. Put a star by guys that I finally usually find a few of those that fall league. So I was really excited then he goes out to Seattle which actually opened his opportunity a little bit more. Because I thought I, of course, came in thinking scooter Ginette was going to have in blocked off in in cincy until his injury. But yeah, so he got he was to a double deal there from New York then over to Seattle. Yeah. And so he does he's got power. He's got speed. He walks is not a big strikeout guy earliest admin in the minor leagues. And so I think he can struggle a little bit defensively, and that's kind of held him back. A little bit. And so that could be an issue. I think he's got the more offense upside, and I took a shot on him in a main event qualifier. Just in case. You know, maybe the thing takes a little bit longer or they figure out ways to get long more involved. But if you're looking for guy who could probably stick up the rest of the season, that's JP Crawford. And it's largely because he's got he's got pretty darn good defense show much better than in Beckham. And I mean what is Beckham done since that hot streak to start the season. So it's he's already down to a seventy five which is above average. Like, he's got he's still toting a one eleven or one fifteen ish WRC plus for Beckham, but he certainly has cooled down as we all expected, of course. Yeah. I mean except for that one guy who. Well, the main event I mean since April seven so since we pass the first week of April. That's what like five weeks worth of playing time. He's hitting one ninety two to forty seven three thirty seven with three home runs, and stolen base. So it's all of his work is fine. It was all in that that early early sample from the bulk of it. I mean, he's still Hellmers. But yeah, it's like a Homer every once in a while and nothing really in between for Beckham. Wow. So there's no reason that Crawford can't take that job and just run run with it. I mean, they traded for him for a reason from AP Crawford was a big time prospect for Philly now part of that was the glove. But there was some hit expectancy to and he s speed. I believe yes. He is speed. I wouldn't say it's. Game speed right now. I mean, it's more of he's just a natural athlete in. That was one of the reasons why he he was such a high prosper top prospect or or intriguing prospect. I want us to calm atop one because he was drafted out of high school. And he was this tool. Z kid. They knew or they felt really good that he was gonna stick it shortstop and back in two thousand thirteen we're talking about age in which shortstop was the weakest position at the major leash. Look come from. That's just wild so bad. I don't think he necessarily has super high upside. But like, this is kind of Jose glaze ish where I think you could play, you know, above average two premium defense his runs at the bat. Yeah. And so like he'll steal some basis because he's a natural athlete. Hill for a little bit of power probably not very much, but he'll play every day and he can accumulate in. What is a pretty decent? Mariners lineup. And so and he walks which is important. I mean, he's walked at double digit rates pretty much all the way through the minors. So even if he is it necessarily getting with about this ability to walk and his ability to play defense should keep him in the lineup. Once he supplants Beckham. Yeah. That's a good call there. So long and long and Crawford can stick with the Gordon still in the lineup because even just looking at the roster resource right now, it's Gordon still at the top of the lineup and then Crawford in long on the bench there. Now one thing that will complicate matters for one of them is that Malik Smith is due back soon. And soon could be tomorrow it could be later in the week. Although did they play today? I think they do they do today. But may. Maybe maybe they play these games than they do it on Wednesday because they have a little two-game set here Wednesday off and then call for the four like an extended weekend set against Minnesota. I don't know. But that's the report right now is that Malik Smith is due back soon. I think that would put long on the outside looking in because long as the one who has infield outfield capability, whereas Crawford is predominantly an infielder. Do you see it that way as well? Yeah. I think there's a chance that that. That's what happens, you know. When I picked up on fortunate when I picked up long in think picked him in a minute, call fire. I hadn't seen the Malik Smith news at that point that he was expected back. I'm probably wouldn't have grabbed him. It's a place replace my wholesale two. Then went on the I L there. But you know, I'll take the shot that they're not just bringing them up for, you know, two three days in that. Maybe they you know, they only have three guys right now on their on their bench. It's not like they're running like a super deep rotation right now either. So I could see them, you know, keep it four guys on the bench of the amount of guys area of the bullpen and just run with it for right now. So gross teams. Go twelve hitters thirteen pitchers. I think that's so annoying like thirteen twelve and at least do fourteen eleven the part baseball not that. When I went out of the park baseball is the same as running a real team. I understand, but I just think that so much specialization with bullpens instead of actually using these guys for multi inning stints and whatnot is is a bit of an issue. But anyway, the new rules next year. Effect thing. So yes, I agree guys having to come in for a full inning and not being able to just kind of be that specialty guy unless you're causing out the ending. Yeah. Exactly. So I mean that could be that could be a game changer for some of the kind of hitters who get set up and down. Exactly, by the way, just to close the loop on what we said earlier cruise is not in the lineup today. But the. MRI came back negative. So maybe it's just the day off starting three catchers today saw weight as the gover- Ancash or all playing. I love it. I love it. That's hilarious. All right. So let's talk about a few key pickups. We've talked about a few of them as they kind of intermingled with the news Bill, let's highlight four others here that drew a lot of tension. It wasn't an aggressive week. And I mentioned that to you at the outset. And and you keep in on what I think the biggest issue or the biggest reason why is and that was what? Not a money. Yeah. I mean first thing that you said when I was like, I was surprised by all these bids then come in all that hot and this and that and part of it was the town available. But even some of the guys I was like I thought they'd go higher, and they just didn't it. So I keep in on it. I think people are. I mean one I don't think there wouldn't necessarily guys that like crazy important to necessarily go get unless you lost like the actual person who was connected to them. So if you lost Pedro Strope like you probably overspent on Steve shack. I'm still surprised though. Because no one really overspent on him the highest main event bid on one. Oh one. And I feel like anyone with a closer pulse usually has some but just to put it in perspective a week ago. More than four people put over one hundred dollars one hundred twelve or more. More which is which would be all of the bids on Lou Trevino. And that's just kind of what I'm saying. Like, I was so stunned, and you know, what I benefited from an got see shack everywhere. I was just surprised I thought it'd be more interested in him. But maybe I'm over valium Steve CJ, but let's talk about him. He was kind of the one of the main ones two guys went thirty five leagues. Another guy went and thirty four another guy went and thirty one leagues. And those are the four guys that went in thirty of the thirty or more of the main event league. So let's talk Steve Shak should be, you know, the closer. They don't commit that's part of it too. I'm sure that. Yeah. I mean, Brandon Kinzler has pitched well, but what do you think about Steve seizure? I guys debate Joe stroke filling as Strope recovers from a hamstring injury. I mean, he's gotta be the clear favorite in terms of guys to close. I think he just picked up his second. Save. I want to say last night. Was in time for bids. So I thought it might up some of the bids to be honest. I didn't change I just left him. As is. I didn't change mine either. And unfortunately, just fell just short on him. I had a thirty one dollar bid and. Oh, I look I was the runner up. Glenn lau. Who got the spent some time within? In New York at the main event, really cool, dude. One for forty two bucks in mine. That's that's so good. It's nothing. Yeah. I ended up spending forty three on the guy. We're going to talk about here in a little bit and Chris Martin instead. So I kind of prioritize Martin oversee shack just because he he's the guy for the moment. So stamped him as that Chris Woodward? The manager said yeah is in while Kelly's out right now. However, let's go and just bring Martin in. Then. They also have made it clear that they still want to work court back in Innoventions they do. But I mean he pitched six innings yesterday. Like, they are they are they may were really take. Yeah. They're they're going to start with him in like the lowest of leverage situations because that was a game. I want to say that they were losing like fifteen to five or they lost fifteen five key came in in straight mop up duty. So I'm not worried because any came in and leverage in his previous outing may ninth for Jose Leclerc and gave up another run on three walks in two thirds of an inning. So. He's far. I okay, I'm gonna peel back a little bit say they might want to get him back there. He's shown nothing suggests that he's ready to get back there right now. I mean, they did invest money. And so they'll do what they care especially in a law season where they're not playing for anyway, or anything anyways. They're going to try to figure out a way to get their money's worth out of him one. Why they why the even spent money on him considering it's a law season is a little bit beyond me anyways. But it was cheap for the cork for four years for four points. Track. No, I agree. And I loved Jose Leclerc in two thousand seventeen when he was putting up pretty much the numbers that he's putting up this year in terms of his walk rate. And you know, I went like this is the guy that could emerge as closer I benefited from that last year, but this is guy Armel. Yeah. Exactly. And I mean, you can just walk the yard. And he has those about Chris Martin. And then not the not the lead singer for coal play already. Three year old was no actually, not believe it or not. But you know, knocked around with them bit last year, forty forty one and two thirds wasn't terrible. Actually, had some really nice strikeout-to-walk numbers. He hasn't walk guys. But he lives in the zone. Hits and homers and stuff. Pardon me. Isn't that could hurt him? Yeah. So what do you think about Chris Martin my again, he has been rubber-stamped as the fill in while Sean Kelly's out with blaming infection of some sort, and what did you end up spending on forty three bucks says nothing you get three saves out of that that's more than worth it. But tell us about Chris Martin what his potential of actually hang onto this gig is to you that I mean, that's kind of the sixty four thousand dollar question is what is the potential that? He can hold onto the gig. And you kinda go into that bullpen, and you look around you go my God who are some of these people, I know Jeffrey springs. Swam Jeffrey springs before. Yeah. No. I mean, like like I recognize some of these names and stuff like that. But I go man I haven't thought about Kyle Dowding along time. Like, I'm Dr line. I mean, Jean Margot mez is. Yes. Still kind of kick it around. There you go. There's really not a lot necessarily in this in this bullpen that could supplant him. So no wonder they wanted Sean Kelly because he he had the clear path to because you know, Jesse Chavez hasn't gotten it done. G more Gomez hasn't countdown. Ariel. Your auto has not done anything. So there is there is the opportunity here for Martin to at least hang onto it. Like, you said forty something bucks. You get three or four saves. Bingo. Bango bungle your own good there. So that's that's the thing in maybe this infection turns into something more serious. Like, yeah. I mean, they're being alerting say is to be honest. I just feel like it's a bad thing to get can be. It's like, I mean, it's I almost said something way worse. And I'm really glad I just went with Mercer. Instead. I mean, don't Google image Mersa. Okay. That's a combination that I'll give you we deal with a lot of Mersa. With the homeless clientele that I work a lot with. Oh, it's highly contagious. And so. If that if it was something like that don't get your on. Chris Martin man will exact ruins. Like bid. If. Thing is a fuse ago like the buck. So the Browns had like a Mersa outbreak of sounds very Brown's as real and it like it got a bunch of people like having like like having to be sent home from the facility for weeks on end, it really just kind of ravage him. And so if it is something like this. It's highly contagious consp- read around someone's body can spread to other teammates. And so they will keep him away as long as possible, obviously completely speculating, but this is typically staff immerses is something that typically is these kind of infections are the kind of pop up because of just poor hygiene habits or something like that around around the locker room. And can can you know, make guys miss extended periods of time. So I think that Martin I don't think he's a super talented guy necessarily. Just need some saves though. He's long as it keeps the ball in the yard, which is can be an issue for him. He should be the guy who gets the majority. If not all the save opportunities over the next month or so, so if he can rack me up five six seven saves, you know, before the all star break, I'll be totally stoked with that. You know, forty three dollar bid huge. Let's stay in Texas and talk about hunter Pence because he's been amazing, by the way, Charlotte has joined the podcast because she wanted you to know that this is her dinnertime and my lame dad is not feeding me so hard you finish talking. You're stupid baseball. She's very separate. One hundred Pence is is on fire. And we talk about the little baseball savant snapshot in the upper right corner. His is all red which means his sprint speed is red which read is good in. This instance, folks, he's been amazing. What's up with hundred Pence? I mean what he's done. So far is believable by the metrics. We can we can agree on that. But he's not keeping ten forty seven. We all know that. What can you do going forward? How legitimate is one hundred Pence renaissance here. Well, I mean, I know we we've talked about this before in terms of off the field stuff affecting people negatively typically when you get married, you get the life sucked out of you. Maybe marriage one hundred pounds says bin. A blessing disguise 'cause I mean, he has been just absolutely amazing this year in usually like how you said a blessing in disguise. Oh, my wife doesn't listen to to this episode. She usually well. Well. Yeah. Exactly. So I mean, usually you don't see thirty six year old guy, or when you see thirty six year old guy have this kind of start, you know, he's a bench guy. But he's broke it back in the lineup because he's having a resurgence usually we can go to like underlying numbers and go look, this is one hundred Babb four percent Homer to fly ball rate, usually something is really out of whack. There's nothing like I I really don't see a whole lot. That tells me because he went to the Dominican Republic and worked on his swing was feeling really great about it when he left he signed that minor league deal. I mean, he he pushed the dentist down to the minors. He did he did get outta here dentist. I'm awesome hundred Pence. Yeah, he worked he worked on a swing. And then was so I think it was other way he was so excited about trying it out that he went to the Dominican winter league. Maybe and I think that's what I heard. But if you guys know the exact story definitely crackdown Twitter. But yeah, really wanted to get it going before the season started had to try it out goes down there. You know, didn't tear the league up, but you know, got some swings in came back. And now if I sent you this profile because their ages are similar if I just sent you the profound said that's Joey vodka you'd been like. Oh, yeah. Good because he was reborn. If you didn't know anything about the season. I just sent it to you and said, look joy Reeb. Nice. That's awesome. And I mean, it's bananas. Again, do you? Everything's done to you like a space Jim incident where he's gone installing Joey autos talent. I do. Do actually think he's quirky enough to do it hunter pences. I love I like YouTube this so here for that being said like, obviously this can't keep up in this way. Let's get some projections here. What what what can we see the rest of the way if we get some health out one hunter Pence if he's playing every day because he is playing for the most part every day. Right, right. He's right now. Yeah. Yeah. So if he's playing every day. Or at least seventy five percent of the time. Maybe. I'm going to say he's gonna hit to sixty five with twelve home runs. The rest of the way. Okay. Like outfield. I don't think the sprints. I don't think he's gonna steal bays because even with sprint speed being up. He's only got one stolen base for me. If anything that's just an indicator of health. It just seems like he's big thing. Healing good really struggled with health because I mean, this is a guy who was what an iron man until two thousand fourteen like he played almost every single game for you know, for three straight years from two thousand twelve two thousand fourteen he only missed two games to gain three seasons. Both came in that first two thousand twelve season that I'm talking about that I'm referencing. And then the health just completely deteriorated went from being an iron man to being not being able to stay on the healthy till you're not it sounds trite. But it's so true. You see these guys Dan Herron was like that as a pitcher always he's bankable for thirty every year. Dude back. Just the margin. Was that was the reason I was taking him as a top thirty top twenty five pitcher last year was because I knew I was going to get I knew I was gonna get glowing. Yeah. Yeah. Plus innings from every year. And then all it takes is one thing. And now, he, you know, all these this year, he's kind of starting to rebound and just not going deep in a games. But yeah. Push a little higher. I'm going to say I'm gonna say sixteen seventeen. I thought I was being Rosie too. 'cause like you're being fair. Like, that's you're probably more sober. Here's here's one reason. I'm going to do it though. He hasn't even taken advantage of Texas yet hunter Pence six eight at home. He's doing all of this away starting to heat up. Wait till you wait till he can unleash on that home part. He's just used to suck at home because Cisco I think he needs to realize. Oh, wait. My park is awesome. Now, I can be good when I'm on home guard of the problem was he had so many World Series rings that he forgot to take them off like during the game. Like that was would hold was holding him back. It's three dollars play. You have to go. It's really hard to like stay healthy if you're carrying around World Series trophies everywhere I go God. I hate you. Did I know I hate you alive? It's amazing though. But. Yeah. Okay. So maybe maybe fifteen fifteen homers, give them twenty two that'd be his highest total since twenty thirteen aggressive for sure. But bouncy ball, he's smacking it best home park. He's been is. You know doesn't care about winning right now because they're not going to. I mean, they're already seven games back in. Credit to you. I continue to post credit for you around the community on this lineup and the quality of it. And now hunter Pence is very much adding to it, but he can also banning fifth in this line, dude. That was so sick. We're here for this too. So let's just make sure we're being sober. So I like your projection twelve homers to I'm trying to get overly geeked about. We're also talking about a thirty six year old that has had a lot of injury issues could all end in an instant that being said like if he's still out there in one of your leagues like he should be owned already. Yeah. I agree. All formats all all leagues has to have one hundred pitcher now because it's too good. It's too good to pass. I will say, you know, you're you're you are those projections the bad and steamer they give them six seven homers only, forty five more games. Obviously if he's healthy he's going to pay more than that. So I mean that's their hedging against the injuries. Well, understandably right now. But but so there's obviously more than that left. So I think we do need to kind of look at it. As maybe a I'm gonna stick with it. I'm a stick with the upper teens and say say if we get a health here, if we get a modicum of health and say, I'll give them one. The stint for a minor injury. Let saints minimum stayed the Elston for hunter Pence. I like the to sixty five average that zeroed in on. But I'm going to say seventeen homers and three steals with decent county numbers despite them being a bad team because they're a good offense bad bad pitching. It'd be interesting to see where he ends up because there's like a non zero chance that he's a ranger by the end of the season keeps us up. That's interesting point to they're gonna move him. Like, we could see him in Cleveland. We could see him. I don't know. I mean, obviously like Philadelphia doesn't need any doesn't eat outfielders somewhere. Spot could open. Hope it's not a a another San Francisco Esca park, though. Although again, he's not even leveraging his home park yet. So anyway, enough hundred Pence love their if he's still available get them as too much. I agree. I agree. I love that we share that. Because you up because of all the giant stuff. I just I just I mean, I love his goofy. Yeah. He's just he's so much fun to watch any like, he's he's what you imagine. If like regular Joe schmo was pulled out of the stands, and it was like discovered the actually talent because he does. He's really good. Yeah. Like breaking him down mechanically of Vom. Does is like ridiculous. Like it you'll bomb? It doesn't make sense. He does what he does. But he just plays the game with such like youthful exuberance. You know, you know, just just so fun to watch. I'm one hundred percent with you hundred Pence there. So all right. Let's finish up with Charlie Tilson. Now, I didn't go for this one. He was actually scooped in thirty five of leaks tied with Steve see check for the most. He was max of one four and the couple eighties and everything else was either a nice sixty nine or lower all the way down to going for three dollars on posed in one league seven dollars with a seven backup. So they tied. It had to go to standings. That's wild. I'd hate to be that guy had the right number. But you just too good. But talk to me about Charlie Tillerson, because the reason I didn't get on it is because I've already fallen for the Nikki del Monaco shit and the Ryan Cordell, and you know, and so I just I sat out this. When I understand that the speed component is there. But I said on Charlie Tilson. So I give you the floor. Good, sir. Well, I mean, he's got one thing that those other guys don't have. And that's a hit tool. But he can hit forever JR. And he plays good defense. So and then just super fast. There's no power here. He's not gonna hit if he hits two home runs even fulltime playing time. I will be shocked imager upset right unless it's like in the park kind of stuff. But because he's got no power. Like, I think we great him out on the site as thirty raw in my shirty game. And I feel like that could be pushing it that being. He is super fast. I mean, he's still forty six bases in two thousand fifteen in in the cardinals AA system. He was part of a member which trade exactly it was. But he was traded the White Sox in two thousand sixteen and he was supposed to be up in two thousand seventeen and he had a devastating. I think it was a leg injury. That kind of derailed his career for the most part, and he's just now working his way back three thirty three three ninety six four seventy five so far in triple eight this year, three stolen bases. This is a guy that could come up, and if he's getting fulltime playing time could steal twenty bases. The rest of the way. Yeah. Absolutely. Now, that's the that's the question. The part that you not at the end playing time. What can we expect for Charlie? Tillerson's PT. The art part is with with you law coming back. You know, we're we're back like does that. Limit his potential because I obviously only Garcia's necessarily going anywhere, but like court ELS not good and is much as but his learning Garcia like why does he have to take a spot? Then I mean, I guess he doesn't if Tilson can actually knock around and hit two eighty in burn up the bases and everything just seem to love Garcia for some reason. I agree. I don't know. You said it made sense. And then I looked at numbers, and I decided to challenge you because I think you're right. But I think the White Sox are wrong on him. Yeah. I mean, that's that's probably the case is I think there's no reason why Tilson couldn't supplant him. The question is will he and kind of trying to Bank that is. Is a little difficult like Domonkos another guy. Like, there's no reason del Monaco should play over him. And I know they like they like him that being said like he should be able to at least carve a fourth outfielder role at worst. And I think there's. Yeah. For speed. You don't need a fulltime role to a speed component in fantasy with a fourth outfielder role. Hello says Rajai Davis is entire career draw. Dyson like, correct. Like these guys with with top end speed. And the one thing I will say is they were willing to give. What was something Adam angle? Yes. A lot of leash because he was fast in played really good defense. And I think that is a good kind of comp in terms hilson better version, right? Yeah. He he's he's a version of Atta mingle with a hit tool. So I like I think there is I put more money on him than I put on. Malik smith. Okay. In in that mid qualifier that amend and was happy until sin. So I think Tilson is a guy that is a sneaky pickup right now. Probably vailable in way too many leagues. Grab him in twelve teams in deeper and just kind of hope that he can develop role. All right, while you've opened my eyes a little bit on Charlie Tilson well too late to get him in in those leagues, but he is still in others. So I could go back to the world this weekend and take a look at him. I'm gonna have one available in like, I don't know what his availability is in in the NFC right now. But I'm guessing he's probably still out there in a number of leagues. There's still going to be availability. I'm Betty still able in my TGIF be I am actually going to look right now. But I'm gonna add one guy, and I'll actually know only in one of my twelve teams one of my Online's and just get your quick twenty seconds on MAC Williamson. I felt it last year. And I don't want say fell for it. Because it wasn't his fault that he had the concussion situation. But he looked like he was gonna come up and be a power asset. He seems to have power that can that can defeat the park, but he was also a big pickup this week. So where we out on MAC Williamson is this something that you're you're buying in on or this is salt the yet again, I think it's probably faulty yet again, but the John. Rid of par in the giants have said they want him to play every day in left field. Okay. So that being said a fulltime player that has shown, you know, kind of flashes of being a guy who can muscle it out of that park hitting right handed is a lot better than left handed in oracle park. Kata hate having to call it that still. And he does have some speed to his game though. I mean, he doesn't necessarily run a time. Like, this is a guy that if he does figure it out could be valuable fifteen team asset. I'm not buying in league shallower than that though. Okay. So fifteen teams and deeper for MAC Williamson. Okay. Okay. That's fair. I buy past him this week for just like I said the fool me once kind of Dion just a let that one play out performance. But like, I think he went for like three hundred bucks L tout. And like I like two dollar bid on. I'm just like he's never he's we're not talking about guys like twenty four he's twenty eight and he's never done anything the major league level, exactly. That's a good way to put it. And that's good note to end on. So you gotta get ready go to your daughters play. We'll get this posted this evening and don't forget to look for the draftkings game tonight. I'll be shortly. Probably as you're listening to this at a likely be up on on Twitter. You can go sign up right now. We'll have one hundred and fifty spots. 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Carr founder of hyper local news and Educating Africa publisher of CBD Docklands Southbank News and the directories for both dot clan and Southbank as well Sean. Thanks COMING IN COMING. Janelle you lovely rights. So I've been as I was thinking. Let's do true false okay era. I had at least eight. Hebron I'm going to read it down to four the first one the most important one Wilson Kill to be twenty twenty are good. I like that. Is it true. The cat doesn't like you sure. Your mom once went viral in the buy side community hub. True I couldn't find that at all. I can send it to if you'RE GONNA BE LOSS RESEARCHING. Pan COBB I saw community. Harbor tried going into the cuny hub for some reason. I just couldn't tell you what was related to Yeah it was a few close a Fox yes? Yay which by the way has happened to Lauren. And I use ago really similar is when we're at the beach like on the Grassy area of the green point like to hang around there. Pam or mom swears there forming some sort of revolution there. Every way Fox's apparent like that is it true that you water Guzman Gomez about three times a week to fair average. But I'm trying to work on that and lower it and bring mine lunch more but that is true okay. Journalists that drives a youth in Melbourne. Probably maybe not in the country like that and the last one for you. You played a whole of Gulf naked is very well fuck. Did you think? Well so mention our king all in for news like Mitchell knees eighth and I'm going to king didn't really know what to do outside of the the chase factory and go on walks and play golf yet but then some friends it's GonNa check the Gulf Coast world-class inside on channels on huge on golfing. I'm unemployed that much but I thought you know this. There's cost us out there on the ocean and be a good opportunity to say the island so news. I get the Non Hulls. Geno apply with me and we go there about half an hour early and the golf pro shop came to to have a scene because we're the only ones books for the Diet and they wanted to go home so early on how to clue on the coals and it's pretty hard at this causing king island so I yeah I think I bet probably seven dollars stuff it. Let's let's enjoy the at Dole's I've never been taking derived it or do I mean it depends what you going for. Its way loved it. 'cause it was really quiet. Only six eight hundred paper Beyond and from one end to the other it's about sixty kilometers. Sorry to big oil and it's just a lot of farm but it's it's beautiful beautiful. Yeah the only thing I know for. I think that anyone here in training forrest chase and chase dare. Yeah Keelan dairy which was problem for generic particularly as she. She's a fishing yes. Do you happen to know. This is a funny one. I was just doing my research and of course I I found your mom's facebook profile some have related to Amandine Aberdeen. Dwight yeah not reliable family friends so moms moms best friend is a guy who's he's mom. Which which stems from Ami's younger sister Sophie Main sci-fier in primary school together from like prep really. But then I moved up to Red Hill and then Mallon off of his form. This beautiful friendship retire. I thought I was like Holy Shit Lawrence. She they they somehow. N- not these guys that I know Ami from a guy that she's the Diet was there was in a friendship group then for whatever reason I burke op and accused lighter. I saw her again. She's working at lying migraines and a New Zealand grain does well. They probably had had kids on our incredible story. Migraines is a good place as well gripe place. They just changed their. They used to that balls and they switched to choose Iran which actually owes more than five off and now switch back to balls and really clever gauze moved over to San Francisco at the moment to do some sort of like Google Lock Entrepreneurial Staff. Yeah well they actually sold. I'm pretty sure they sold wake right like did. Yeah Yeah but then I think I'm pretty sure it's goon. I called me on that but I like had if they success obviously wanted them to come work on some project for them so they really unique characters. There's accessible to interview them but then all this stuff happened. And then all of a sudden they're in San Francisco Entrepreneurial Spirit it's alive and well in those two. I think now speaking of places like Red Hill Bowie. The Basal it. You're you're the bubble your bayside boy born and bred. I'd say what sort of the earliest memory you have. Have you childhood? Childhood familiar for a little bit. Doctor had cancer. When I was a kid I was diagnosed. Probably one to three years old so my earliest memories I think are actually in hospital By women on that was probably out of hospital. Just begging the with my sisters and then I remember during much writing style foundation sponsored us to go to Africa for a family hold isotopic and that was apparently my wish on our wish but the family. I did Yeah now remember that that trip as well as the first time meeting my my grandchildren other relatives and stuff who still live in South Africa from South Africa. Yeah so MOMS from South Africa from Poor Elizabeth. That's where she grew up. Dab was actually born in what was Rhodesia Nasim Bob. Way And then got three older sisters two of which were born in Rhodesia Zimbabwe and then may modestly to make were born Sandy Hospital We've been in office since so I was I was. I read about that solid foundation thing like I remember when I worked at the Press Club and George and all of these other Russians had teams and we played in this style. Lot Foundation COP would rise money for these kids and I I wasn't the impression that a lot of kids who get their wishes. Granted by the Solid Foundation bicycling terminal. Well I'm sure of that and I think it will. I mean it wasn't looking good for me for a while I was just like a stage story womb stream so I lost a kidney. Dot are lighter on Loft Award with five kids in award on Europe blessed islands which were far more if I'm aggressive cancers and by all pasta white and through that process obviously. I think I'm you know. Mum died and my family and everyone associated grew bones with as other families. Obviously throw you know that shed traumatic experience of illness so I think I I was obviously very lucky. I have different cancers to them as Potus I. I'm I'm not sure about how the solid foundation to classify illness in regards to getting a trip. But I think back then it was just like you know you go through a tough Tom. That's NAPA. Yeah Yeah it's it's it was augmented Yeah it was really sad that style. Finishing stuff is really sad. There's a lot of sick and that to me. That's going to be one of the worst things like. There's something really nice about that seeing a sick child and I think that that's why a lot of those celebrities are involved with the start. Finish Digest. Guess so much from it because they wealthy this successful but thinks of Crepe on you and your stomach that sounds you can get bored when you have that other thing and I feel like. That's what you've got a of the charity work. You've done that sort of that shining. Light that Northstar that that gives you saying perhaps part of it I mean. I've always sort of a spouse being raised by Bomar Foxton sort of try and think about this as much as you. Can you know in that sense So yeah this probably is a bit that stems from those early years of you know Bang on their savings of support from the latest authorization hospitals and doctors and yes I suppose. Yeah that would definitely fades Somewhat more recent actions charity or lighted. But I think I think educating really has largely stemmed from just the African connection But yeah the philosophical outlook definitely always fed a little bit by illness in L. Experience. When you growing up like we all have sort of stories that we do. We say that we hear that sort of become part of our personality or principles later on in life like that. I've said this many times in prior besides that may was Hard work into nasty that I learnt from parents just because of the Nitra of what was happening in their lives when I was quite young. Do you sort of have principle that stands out to you from all of your parents at all I suppose the Real K. Aspect is definitely from because dad that was in the regime wall when he was he's he's still got a bit of Patriots Day which is sort of suffered all his life and I suppose that sort of fed more into his social approach to loft but I think also banging the army and between the two of them also migrating to a country with two kids in Normandy Definitely get strong work ethic from Biathlon Dad Bank from the Bank of very rotating. Ause they make you in the very regimented. He's just he's never missed a diabetic. And he's lost and he's still into his mid mid sixties now works out of a choice than anything else because he just lost that routine and what does he. What does he difficult? He's a printout good. We spoke about these. These only first mechanism wildlands printer does sort of like industrial scale printing. Yes he's so. That was something that hey had any skills when he moved to Australia about it was again when you need a job quickly I think one of these Elliott was actually filled easing chill straight Sandringham which then bent down champion. So yeah he's he's a bit of an old school print which is a learn auden sort of skills have been growing up in printing very separate sites sort of our Ronnie that on in print media a little bit now on this grinding man died with parental tonight. But will you said before about your mum and that caring aspect was she. Did she have any jobs over the years while you're a kid? She not not necessarily Fulltime work all corporate or anything like that but she was on kindergarten committees and she did any sort of jobs to make ends meet like earning babysitting and things like that so and obviously looking after four kids. That's a huge job Yeah like Chevy's out a strong work ethic in Rod and then Dodd complementing. Not You know as I said never missed the DYE worker. He's law and just like he's one of those guys just get on with it top of mentality so which you know from spos- The care social aspect is and probably always The mice useful So then have mom's experience to complement the two. I had a pretty good upbringing from both of them. I was thinking because the reason I ask is thinking like. Why did Sean Get into journalism? I know you studied cost Journalism Nash. She graduated in twenty third. Amy Work to win. The new moves to Southbank News. I like how many marry that up. Why was that the field that you found yourself in thinking again having parents who immigrants so we've always had always lived in the by. Saad bobble and that sort of way that I landed when they came to Australia We've always had that sort of international outlook in sort of caring about broader issues. And moms it's a shining. Mom actually didn't end up working professionally. She would be a very good prominent. I you know like she's slowing guys in politics and rates the newspapers every Di Dia Radio DOT is. Well you know any spare time will listen to the news so I think as a halfway house hall between May Masseuses. We were always talking about Topical issues say exactly so then I suppose going into you twelve when all year eleven. By when you sort of thinking about the subjects you. WanNa study I in. Our numbers was never for me. It's always chides sort of mall. Socially skewed subjects lock politics sociology legal literature English. Obviously all is very good at applied to my strengths opposing. Then yeah come deciding what you WANNA do at university which is never an easy choice for a young person. You still figuring out who. You are Those journalism course that was offered at Monash Coalfield at the time and to be brutally honest. Maud sister just above my maker. Shay was studying at Monash Coalfield at the time and didn't have drivers Lawson's but we live near Chelsea. Which is about seven stations from the Caulfield? Stop and you can get an express service there so I bring a practical person. I was like well coal from Stan. The ride my sisters their and their officer offering this new journalism degree in journalism kind of saves apply to a lot of my strengths like English. Issues and softball. Let's give crack do because I look at how I got into this because I remember for years mild was like what you don't WanNa get into printing where you don't get into one. Are you want to be an accountant or something like that? I enjoyed numbers in the sense of marrying it up. I've never enjoyed the technicality of numbers. Which is what my brother was very good Eddie and upsetting maths yet at Uni and for me. I've realized as time went on the element of that industry that I'm gravity gravitated towards things that involved storytelling and for me. Like if I think back to it the the biggest thing for me was probably like yourself. You're sitting at the dinner table when it starts was sport and end in like policy on infrastructure like some heated debate all be telling his story this twentieth paper sitting around with or if it's just like an ordinary night where debating. What's actually in the paper? Do you have sort of seminal moments? But D- have memories like that that makes you think that's why I sort of gravitated towards. I think it's just having been curiosity for lots of different things I suppose. That's just how will all particularly feel like all exposed to that way of thinking a lot with just purely by nicer of the things that you do talk at the dinner table with your parents or amongst friends. So you know you gravitate towards during school Yeah the the curiosity us. The curiosity factor. Just beg interested in all of the different staffan exploring. Different topics was something that fed where I ended up from the storytelling aspect. I suppose that that definitely kind wants I did get into journalism and more professionally so often Clark when you're studying journalism degree diner many local news if you listen to the Daily News. It's all about what's the big issues in today's. Today's pipe Tobago unexposed to local news. And then what constitutes a story that makes it into a local? Pipo or on Windy. They regionally you know like it was all of a sudden you having to recalibrate you'll thinking from The headline what's the headline issue affecting people to This this lady down the riders. Just you're safe a award for doing something fantastic unified and so it tends into like a profile pace and the storytelling opens up. And then you go back I will. There's more news than just what is wrong with the world. There's actually some really good stuff. You can tell impactful stories. Yeah well I feel like you hit a point with with a lot of TV media these days or nine hundred media that it is more like a PR exercise or it's run efficiently like a PR organization as opposed to a news organization. That's just unfortunately the nature of what the industry has become the next reading umbrella. The other Diane sold it of course. Seven West media still is like hammer during hemorrhaging massive amounts of money and I think that people have realized that in love the new media brands of ones that tell really interesting stories and then have to be a way to be positive but they are stories. Because that's what we want like if I look at. Let's let's take the corona viruses as an example. How am I keeping up to date with that? Well I've actually been following people who are former. Who SPECIALISTS OR EPIDEMIOLOGISTS? Or whatever that had their own youtube channels in all of a sudden side of reporting on this. Because if you all get a snippet of channel nine news and it's like it's just like a headlines. Cystic doesn't tell me anything. And it's always stock not stock footage bit like they've taken three grabs of this place and that's that's it. They're just focused on the numbers. You know like how many pepple contracted that dial. How many papers does that dia where it spread to? Yeah so rather than sort of the broader discussion around Do tend to hear more on the locks of the IB bit more analytical. Where you know. They're talking to that fantastic institute. Ray created the virus for example. And then it's like okay. What's the next steps to cantering this? I'll you you. You sort of fading paper with positive reinforcement rather than united. What's wrong all the time? And the papal. I think people chewing off from news when I just a so much negativity yet. Almost one was skype. It as much as that's sort of probably the wrong reaction. You blind people all the time when you turn on the news and it's just like chases miserable well when. I go to my parents for dinner like once once a month or every few weeks on a Sunday. Mom who have the news on? But it's just like background noise. It's not the not captive. The watching it like in the day need wardlaw watch like the day tout. Spf News and stuff like that. We get quite into it. I guess I'm curious why you're win. Then you went to South Bank like doing the news as an editor there. What was the what was your mindset like at the time because? I know that you're working there but you're doing your masters in International Development's educating African Vein rant forbid now you're you're doing this master's which shows the thing about this is GonNa be my long term life this I'm going to do but then obviously the opportunity came to take over was won't become hyper. Local news run me through like your your mindset at the time but we thinking supposed to be brutally honest. I'm I'm probably never I've never been in the past. And that sort of has five or ten Year Plan. Come pretty instinctive a lot to do. What makes me happy in what I'm interested in a spouse? Educating Africa was bowl and instinctively from a bank todd of journalism grafter fees and wanting to take a break away from it but not wanting to lock the classic gap year and having the African connection and always Join me join me back there so I wa- volunteering for six months and In canton opportunity where I could do more so than educating Africa started when all still at Uni and then I thought you know that that author as far as sort of rape charge my battery so to speak. I went back for my third year. And all his juvenile. You know I'm really going to give my final year. Really good cracking. I make the most out of the extent of the Diet you paying a Hickstead as well but I was looking forward to master's degree or any sort of enrolled in that international development to Oppose facilitate more interested in educating aware. That was going about telling my life but I did. Some internships that during my journalism degree One of them was WIS southbank. Docklands always one of those Wayne. One was with metromedia which anything Sarangani Malaysia Alexa. The weekly reviews and that sort of stuff but mission so between all three alcon of had you not print online and broadcast and so I had a really good feel and also discovered that always capable of doing it really enjoyed it but commented you degray unless you offered a job in all wasn't necessarily the person that was fighting for one of interested. I kept in touch with the people who were in Employees is prices intended that you know in a bit of hope but always looking forward to just guard striving tomorrow and Tash Development and saying well I could type with Kerry But then Aja Pechiney Shepherd came out with win Thought it'd be stupid to turn it down you know it's fantastic spirits to get cell phone TV and get some experience in that world Goodall chip yeah good old chef. Exactly you odd never set foot in Shepperton when US before it started that job and I I was the twenty third of December. Two thousand thirteen. Okay so two days before Christmas. I didn't have a car. So mom jumped me up. This Gauze Hassle was friends with my bureau. Chief at the time saw squatting in a row renting a room off him at the time I had two days work and then came back for Christmas on the very long back and boxing die with some friends and works one fraud eight and then that was my first week. I had it was Christmas. I'm lucky I'm back in. Melvin checked it. In China Rod. It was just chaotic time but eventually I got my Which I got off a dairy farmer and Strath Matin which might which might die getting Melvyn to Shepton as you're on the weekends so that was that was a big plus it and Tom. Yeah but then a On saw deferred my master's degree because obviously embarked on when Chapman. And then probably about ten months into bang name out from more former bosses business partners scaling. Who Says Hi. Hi Sean Hope. Shepard's going well. If it's not interested in the job at southbound Yeah the the intrigue of the the intrigue of that Opportunity led me to have a conversation with shine and post that conversation. I decided that moving back to Melbourne for a job. Editing local Piper in the city guys made the opportunity to both still working industry and in some money. But then do my master's part-time. Yeah you could sort of work it out from that so then then that's just sort of sparred jd. As I said you know like I really have low fat myself enjoying working as newspapers more than I thought I would. And then that's led to where I am today. In owning stibal while we were speaking in the kitchen. Ilia having Ou- coffees entails and I'll say about how shame probably while you're working in about the digital element but he obviously had you in mind potentially handing over the business. I you probably had no idea that knows. What was that conversation like when he said to city like do you want to take over the business like about from the time ignoring the tons of he said no no way winded become serious? Whoa yeah that that. That conversation was just made even the office of the Tommy tender from his desk and he says you interested in this business and I'll say what why The answer probably saved all these talk boy. He was asking me and he says well. We know you interested in making this year on and I said I'll never really given it much thought on a shine So yeah as I said I wonder why. Give it some thought and spoke to my dad and spike to Agok odd who is a bit of a mentor of one? He's helped out educating these and we worked in some social enterprise stuff early on and when I was at union tried and areas like that. So he's always been one of those kind of entrepreneurial and just interesting guys that you always go to for good. Chattan so yeah. I'll lay down a couple of paypal in off the top of the decision. Eventually that was great opportunity. And let's give it a guy who was surreal Tom. Obviously but and it's it's surreal. It's still surreal. Sometimes to think you know the the media owner in one of the world's most cities your media Barrett Fail Shiny. Stir themselves as a media. Mogul I'm not sure what I've said to Lauren. That their fee things that we're feel like I've made it in life and money's not one of the things that thing is there's two things actually one would be to buy back then kneels cosmos because my grandpa said that originally told the other would be to have a competing. I don't know how to do this because we have. Our family has published the first Sunday newspaper in Australia. And it got picketed by the Herald Weekly Times in the union and send them Brooke. Sorry there's something. Dad like is a bit of a Funky of the Herald Weekly Times. Something just want to own. Maybe it's the Herald Sun may be able to buy the Herald Sun To if you turn around well to be honest is doing better than the Ijssel. Maybe I could buy the age but there's a thing though that I remember Warren Buffett. Say that every time the knock. It gets quite mature. There's only two newspapers that survive and eventually one kills off the other leads into this conversation about. Because I suppose to to reverse for a second you know. Bat Mark Thinking and decision making around to our tycoon over what is predominantly print media business in two thousand eighteen. Whenever was making the decision. Because you know everybody who's not necessarily in media assumes that digital's life Owen prints dead and yeah spies on on that on that thought process. You know there's been some really encouraging. Assigns lightly and the resurgence of print media and not just not just print media but sort of lock old school ways of doing things. Like how you walk into a job off on and they've got to final section you know so the say day is now obsolete and papal. Yes everyone's on spotify but people still love that tactile experience of putting a record on a charge to you know on a turntable listening to an album. And it's like the sign is within reason as within reason existed in a in a specific incident nation machen hop local. People love getting the newspaper now box at their leisure bridge spanning out of flick through. What's happening in the neighborhood? What's the only thing I would read when I lived in the city? You know you get all that stuff. Delivered team box would actually look forward to reading this thing and I think that there is that element with local news. The people still really enjoy it. They WANNA see. That's one thing although media has and this probably comes the business model of local news like the opportunity for local news is still the even the Google and facebook if destroyed in a way the media because of that basically taken advertising or advertising small businesses and a lot of that state national news is co become quite transactional and this. It's like a an esteemed publication like the New Yorker or destroy 'em where the owners unit for power. Nothing exactly so I I found it really interesting. Are we saying before that? Were chatting. The land technically meteors another one. Where they've sort of niche down whether it's Tikka sports or community or crime and focus on those areas in America and that seems to be what's working. The exit speaks to people on an individual level. Exactly like my my when I heard about this. He has this podcast and business of content. He was saying that it's so annoying. It was actually this test by a lab the media lab at Mit about how localized news would would increase engage. Rights by like thirty percent. Said you could localize notifications push notifications runoff fine. So that if you in an area would hit you with the relevant on signs businesses advertising on Social Media Guy you know default on what demographic so they're even wanting to localize so then you know so when you're thinking about you know what the future of hop local newspaper in Inner City Melbourne than you think. Well the fact that are targeted and the fact that Saturday residents are always gonna be interested in what's happening in the survey as general general principle and naturally there's always enough advertising to follow because people understand that connection and they're on the side message connecting to sign raiders. Because you know the adds bank presented on the same page So I think I think always stem back to with any may not just as you know the future sort of local Authenticity like you saw. Think when you turn on the news or you flick in the Herald. Sun Doesn't immediately always speak to. You might be interested in what's happening. I think everybody's curiosity always makes them want to find out what's going on in the world but when it comes to the sort of new present day opportunities of new media entering the market I think there is a real power in a lot of these sorts of nations areas which is where wave managed to find out in the elbow which is fantastic opportunity. Well there's no not Herald Sun as an example you skim through it. It's there's no real attachment to it whereas the there's a sort of personalized attachment to a lot of local news. I guess I'm curious I've seen about what have been the highs and lows but really what I'm intrigued about your perspective about. She said the aquatic excited for the next few years. You've changed the stall which I think is warranted to give it a nice refresh while still remaining true to those local stories. What's what are you really fuxing around. For the next twelve months and counter to everything we've spoken about digital. Yeah so just without detracting from what makes us unique. Which is the print publication Papa local delivering tomorrow boxes and the palm and tells all that sort of stuff. He's at the moment al websites purely bizarre 'cause side they're like a reference point to people who might not save newspaper on not want to refer to a story online And we feel like we can do more than that in any and if not a shave more we can explore what opportunities are out there so of engaged to take the moment to help me way through that process and serve just understand what opportunities there for us Some of the things that have come opera ground You know sort of this this audio waltz on in the CD in conversation with Cinelli friends the other day actually and she was just saying you know if I had a friend visiting Melbourne terrorists and I said you know time you have to the same end Shami. Some cool bars and things to do she goes. I'll be so useless. And I feel that conversation with Melburnians. My friends and people there's luckier what's on city and Melbourne. Lots of stuff. But I feel like way could ninety ply another potential role in that space on one hundred percent able discover. What's out there without detracting away from the news that we published in the provision. I think Like it's funny you mention that because Lauren Armitage's Bryant like we're looking at toss for the next two way some one thing that we need to get way out for. The podcast is being aware as to what's on in the Siberian hers. Travelling in and who should. We BE PITCHING ABOUT PODCASTS. Because this so many disjointed calendars going on and all the payoff because they're in that mix but we weighed aren't a lot of consumers and what what's on what's on. Malvern is okay That was the thing that I used to subscribe to. It was just a lot of family oriented stuff. Yes and I don't think anyone's really hit that on the head yet. I don't think anyone's really succeeded with that. What he's what is on them. What's happening and visualizing it and Geo locating and I just don't think that that has been done really well like what you frosty options with that. What's on the motto? Really restaurant reviews broad shape but even broadsheet has been lax over the years. Like I just find that now. No one's really succeeded in doing. It is a challenge. Because we live in. Melvin there is disarming exactly lock you must sister h Desi within Thailand and she was providing recommendations to a friend who was asking some rooftop bows and the city ended up asking. I like Jon Allen a couple of other people you know like to actually I immediately thought about our guy in the supplies applies for our religion have group rooftop Bosnia. The city do now from talking to people over the years. They're they're hates So it's it's hard to always know what is out there that's going to be a perennial challenge. I think wise but I think we can as you say. Nobody's quite mild yet not suggests that we could but we can. We can have goat. You could have nothing having that sort of local connection to save news to the huddle grid itself from all the businesses and all the events and stuff happening there on a regular basis gives us a bit of a unique leverage point. Rather than just you know. The what's on Melbourne City of Melbourne's website top thing which is such a generic reference for people looking for it's on it's part of it's part of the government they put you know they send this. Obviously it calms person involved and they get from all the different departments. This is what's happening in the calendar for the next month and I was intrigued. Why do you think you know what do you think is the bayside later now? There's a big fan of the by Saad later these all. These Murdoch earned local newspapers right which they've tried to consolidate of this. What are never sounded one Saturday or the city sort of area trod Susan Raleigh who are mentioned Elliott who's a a cancer at the city mount? She has also published So on since she used to have the Melvin three thousand magazine but you know post got three three thousand was on the invented in nineteen ninety two. I think so. It's it's it's a pretty new phenomenon having people who live in the central business district white so when you say that what the idea of people living here or the actual postcode itself. Well I suppose I suppose the way were kids. Particularly Saturday was applies. Where you would have gone to work like. It wasn't even a cool place to come prevents. There wasn't really long on and that's really sort of transformed. Buffy I've sort of last ten twenty s of the laws and then with that is the population skype paypal. Obviously we want to be close to when I worked. So the days now transformed into Apply Sweat Sixty seventy thousand people. Now Co Lines Molin A lot of students into this. There's a lot of downsizes for example a lot of families living in the city so it will be surprised. Yeah so I suppose way. We're probably really the. I have a God from business point of view because you know the the latest back in the Diet probably would have looked to partner three thousand year while we have local newspaper day. And it isn't that residents in this really to So you've it's such a competitive advantage. They look at it now. Guy Think while the resources we have to put towards it already having to consolidate resources in other pipers it's it's manifested from Docklands. Which is now I pipe so doctrines again being newell area When those early pop and tells went up it was then The Dolphins Authority which is now places was plicy tour an Antebellum to worry about the authority down there for the buildings had gone out naked. I four of communication. Kate resins may with what was going on. The air so shines old company media comes one. The zone tended to put that together for Docklands Authority in the develop is sponsored it and so is this all walks of the encompassing thing And then when that sort of got to a point where the Docklands Authority didn't want to manage it anymore. A handful of the city of melon sitting Alvin said got through to addition shine says and I would not want this anymore because shine how to journalistic background. He said well a Central Pavilion tennis into a local because this anymore province coming and the residents they do live here at the mom really appreciate it and then he turned it into the newspaper that we will obey the new design. So did he turned it into this sort of tabloid size monthly news Python and then off the success of that southbank across the river which probably start developing feelings before Docklands had signed position where you had a lot of People moving to the city a lot of occupies this the sense of community slyly growing that Tom was when we started a piper over there and then probably around the time when southbank news was sort of hating out the conversation about Posco three tasks really started to gear up a lot of paper moving to the city so the Thomas probably right to start a pipe when we did Saad Spain spend interesting learning experience. But it's been responding to opportunity as well so I think you know MEDOC MEDOC now. I don't know whether you consider having a Melvin dice. Local news PIPO but probably not the end. I probably not been anywhere. There's there's no. There's no room in the bucket with stylised modernisations and interesting one because we're talking about the athletic and technically Media Ilya. They've done although they like. I think what local news does really well is local native advertising mediums. Like podcast really well as well but also intrigued about. There was another brand cold tap into which developed local newspapers and that actually developed an element. Where if people sort of invested X. amount of budget per month they got like a an Seo like related page back links and pay all releases could go on the website and stuff like that. I guess that rise in my mind like how you thinking about monetization because events local experiences is being this big big thing particularly technically made it because they take focus they just sounded like a Philly intech event and that is really where the bulk of their money. So I guess I'm curious like how. How have you thought about how daydream about monetization in the more usual spice? Yeah we'll do just what you have planned long. The ten have thought much about events or other things that you'd like to get into Law Not not to that extent hospital west. Still sort of the stage where I mean wrought here and now it's just been focusing on this raiders on so I sort of just bringing the aesthetic of the pipe up to a look and feel that way. The way believed can help. It lasts for the next to the twenty plus years. Sort of got that out of the why and the next blackberries the coyotes. Let's explore on lawn and because we've never done that before particularly in a niche market. Like as sort of locker will sort of at that early stage conversation about you know what services we can provide businesses and also the community conned. But I think the early thought processes just around they're awesome really stick limitations obviously on print media which way you know what I mean. Kanter all the Tom. Nothing one of the biggest ones is wall. Avatars will love to advertise in local newspapers because of the the value capshaw. There's also athletics that will often come into about tracking. Who's actually looking at this ad type of thing so for us? I think where thinkings going US. Some in law with some of the things you will lead to or at diversifying offering full now advertisers to cy. Young look you know. You can have your page banner every month and save they news call. Is You know. He's opportunities on law and You know you can spread your message across different mediums and in what they events you know like On property cancel something like that. Whatever that is sorts of advertiser interested in in our way wakened. Maybe help facilitate online capacity. Almost sure but I think it's just it's it's adding more of a mix into what we can offer rather than deciding businesses usual. It's other print adult nothing. And then obviously you know going without a social media wet again. You know where monthly news pipe when we publish a story for example lock on law and all but particularly social media. We can share that an article that we published from the print edition without detracting. Live from the appetizers that going this every month. Yes so it's like a an added benefit then social media surprise the more sort of relevant up to date stuff around. Is something happening at the exhibition center this month thing so we can work with an Avatar or just purely from events community building capacity to play that role in social media toe? So that we've just got a bit more of a die presence with that against hiking. Y from what we do he. Yeah yeah look it's it you're gonNA try not a tricky side your instinct stage because you've gone through that redesign announced about thinking about what are the systems prices and things that I can do to make it more digital but also help scall- sauce all shouting the creative agency last week. You're engaging with this process at the moment in the sitting around the table with all these papers look different areas. Just you know when we got to the end of the the nuts and bolts about what we do and sort of loosely. That what we are thinking we want to say. I was just thought this is really exciting. You know like this is a blank canvas. Essentially in Spice Waken help influence and provide fresh audience foresaw is. There's a lot of excitement around what's possible. Yeah I'm what that looks like. It was still still yet to come. You know we're going back to genitals responsive at meetings all in the next two years that gives me optimism and yeah. I'm excited for what we can do that. We kinda CEVA. What's the Because I was reading this recently about. Cms systems are funny. He's trailing uses wordpress wrong. Do you know everything. There was arc which was just released by the Washington Post to help local news with updating their CMS system. I think feel like actually die. Offered like free if your local news organizations on. Yeah what what system do you guys use the publishing at the moment because that'll be like one of the big changes for you is changing the same as in publishing alone so these platforms that we used to document? Thank you say. Stylishness probably weren't but that's the thing that's the industry. That's what I remember. One guy in the business of content with saying that. He's gone back to his old newspaper the local newspapers and even in two thousand eight when he was dead. The system was out that I was still using that system and then no one would have heard what it was called. We'll again from Puglia call. We'll capacity ask systems service pretty well because which as you upload and we'll actually auction site either the the platforms lawyers just docklands. Cold expression engine ancient system. Few develop is actually even head of spots. Engine and it's it's it's clunky. And it's not the most user friendly system for me and more ten of journalists to to upload stories on law and every mouth which is part of the reason why we also want to change his purely from a functionality. Point of view efficiency all the saving the world began. I suppose I suppose shines. I'm passionate and it's sort of Stubborn belief in the power of print media off a local meant that he's having conversations with him over the past that you know. Maybe we should start exploring what's been euro-zone powder business model and I suppose that that that sort of mode of thinking is provided where we're at now. What we've got sort of divided systems of this is sort of well past that now. I'm just going for a coin sleight just going with fresh systems and fresh and I need my menton because I found out that well pasta. They used nothing but that is a lot of the industry. I mean like if you work at any large corporations while the always always some like legacy system that you just know if they would have redeveloped this thing like they would have to. Just throw it out and just stop fresh and this is the reality of the situation. I feel like that is something that was. From an era of ten to fifteen years ago would be resist them and change it every so often but now all of these new CMS systems and wordpress guide like that that they just constantly updating base. Which makes it better for us. The publisher and that's what I think has done really well but we're still like a classic among publishers. But I was just surprised that these Ralian uses word pressure. Newscorp hadn't built they run the new school putting us. Because now you fill pot of volks. Vox got one so anyway. I just found that super fucking think as well. I'm from the aesthetic point of view even along the functionality of it all you know. I've looked at a couple of other models of how you know some some influences of what way maybe WanNa mirrow annual look websites. I go into the Herald side and the age and they sort of these classic news. Sautin they're just saturated with a bit too much luck getting zoe look on their website a little bit. It's just too much going on with the new design. We've gone for a little bit more clean. Minimalist top of top of look. I think that's sort of where on looking to simplify things on our website. A little bit just having some couple K. faith.'. It just draws people in rather than you get the website and the Herald Sun and he's just like chasing just WanNa look for this story. Here always the search button. That's off onto distressful experience. I think from our point of not being the Herald Sun. Obviously where local news? We want to just sort of simplify out a little bit. Mike user friendly if you look at the city news. I don't know if the the actual warnings can say see this but you've got the The good old Chinese characters. The Chinese Clive. Do you still have the The Chinese version of translation. That's right and that's another area that With the creative team we start. Having conversations with is another area that we're looking to explore more. So whether that be transcribing every story in the paper and putting in a lawn for example How we realized that too. I Janis Audiences. Still sort of you. Know the discussion. But we've with the new designs we do have a Piedra Chinese translations in every pipe and L. And that is Paying respect to deep shade number of mandarin-speaking people that live in our postcards particularly sabre day where I think it's like forty something percent of the people who actually established day spattering. So yeah it's it's definitely a necessary aspect of Alpbach it so we need to obviously pay respect to that and just show them that way. Acknowledge Their existence. You have one hundred percent if you go down Elizabeth's straight near Latrobe and whatnot is now become like it's another chinatown. And it's it's a real like mini megalopolis. The wind those apartments have sprung up and the soy many ex-pats which is just like in the near at ten years ago it was nothing it was just factories in full student cognition. Now what if you let I guess would have been the highs and lows of learning from that marketing? You getting more Chinese appetizers approaching you or if you found that quite hard panic and in in sign that way. I mean. We've made a few approaches to Johnny's Basinski. There's a this is China There's a cancel on Sydney Melbourne. Kevin Louis WHO's got Sort of a good Intel into that into that world and this Chinatown race inked So they're yes. There's some strong links. Staten have explored. You walk around those areas of the city which you mentioned and there's actually a lot of Chinese publications already and I get a lot of advertising from all not just in the city that all all parts of town So yeah it is. It is a challenge breaking into that market. We have explored the idea of just trying to subsidize the translations pageant laced And that's also potentially a good barometer into tracking the Chinese engagement because then if peace is doing well added and they might say and I like keep going no it is. It's a it's a community to cracking about where When I came to try and came to Y- pilot some respect that if the pipe and then there's something in there for them. Yeah I mean I think for a lot of First Generation immigrants experts. They always trust insiders. I I feel like organizations like Eric as a good one more fin when it comes to finance by SPE have dominated like local financial news. Like it's quite amazing. They have like a million readers on a weekly basis. Something that and they've got like a a youtube channel and they just the guy who's in charge of that is just really really well connected with the local Chinese community but also the local business community because he about conduit between the two so yeah. It's it's super super tough. You'd almost have to start like your little Chinatown Bureau. Wouldn't you feel like it to really crack into explorer exploring down the track? You know it'd be great to wait. We actually did have a Chinese journalist at one point. And there's no with us anymore but there has been that audio around whether it is just a journalist or someone who can rot and also Engage with business community. So sort of that I suppose correspondent in. Ymca your local yet. Because I think it is really important you know like it's it is a challenge side charge to engage with the Chinese community because they also have There'd be closed off. It's set aside this this. There's a lot of people walked to Chinatown pricing. To want to engage more broadly. So it's trying to support those people and tap into the opportunities that exist spas but they'll probably does require somebody dedicated and understands that the complexities of that community. You were saying before about where you get your inspiration from in terms of newspapers. He didn't say who. But I guess I was intrigued ignoring shine for the moment Who was sort of the latest in media that respectable particular publications? That you really enjoy question. I suppose I had a small like yeah extending back to local news. I suppose I I can't do it by Saud later. Towed and it was. It was interesting often when I was a kid. You get away clean by later in the bow box and as a kid you looking to that little Sports Star yeah section. Where you know the the kid local sports clubs got an award or something and sometimes that would be a kid for Maude. Firm from by Morris or Murphy played soccer against Dan Sandra game or something like that and that that interesting connection around all do I know in the pipe these must buys him from a young age so I suppose yeah. That's that led me to have an appreciation for local news enough to obviously want to get back into a career but from a from a news point of view. It's always been the base. Say think from local point of view. I mean why from his young as I can remember. Mom's always had seven seven four. John Fine Foy splaying out. The radio Then obviously you know. Tv and Q. And Monday nights and all that sort of stuff with four corners and still good. Yeah Yeah I am not so sure about that. I think it's good. That never laced thumb. Hi Mitch to expand into more of a youthful audience. Little Tiny Jones's like love. Your page is a little bit times. Yeah I just think it's the the format is not quite like it used to be good but now like it's systemic like it's stocked panel. Its own a variation panel in terms of political leanings. People argue the whole time. Never I can tell you for sure every time this politicians on the panel. I fucking watching off you look off unfortunately with Q. Ni- that sort of the the that that that feeling that people have towards it is symptomatic of the fact of had depressing Ladies are in politics all switch off the news because he he joyce somebody talking about Climate Change Jeeze you know. Change the record And these are the side politicians that generally speaking will come on the panel. This lock audio logical battle with I just yelled each other answer questions directly so you chewed in guy. What's the point of listening to this? I'm not getting any sort of lock real. I'm not getting any real nice out of these people. And then the occasional Tom when you do have a panel that is political. It's based on the issue experts in. It's fantastic really good. Discussion politics in Australia is the problem with the fall. Chewing is Decline in interest. Yeah I think this is the Nitra politics now with social media soon have given rise to more popular viewpoints on either side of politics and it. It means that a lot of people who are in the middle who rationally in the middle gets squeezed which is why a lot of people would choose from these types of formats just prefer. I would much rather listen to a three hour. Podcast between two people who somewhat disagree or have different opinions on something Mike Really Flesh out and then you build a nuanced opinion. It's like again going back to sitting at the dinner table with with family and whatnot. It's like having a debate on a topic that's where Rafic staying on seven seven. Four in the afternoons has fought club gets the gets the two politicians onto to have it in. And that there's there's there's always. I fought respectful yet. Feast bite and it's just because it's in your in your in a in an environment like these very sort of locking are comfortable in that Janis Ian Conversational than you do. Tend to get a little a little bit more illness out of their answers. Rather when you're on the stage panel in front of a live. Tv Costas Right. Yeah exactly. It's like spiking Manton as opposed to just like speaking to your audience yet lost lost that connection. I think I want to talk about caring Africa before we get into AL rapid fire questions. I'm very intrigued by the rapid fire. Yes I've been very intrigued. By the fictive altruism movement particularly people like We'll mccaskill but the famous one is paid a singer that everyone always references. I know that you got into this charity work. I don't re- well. You started your own charity twenty. But before that you'd worked in South Africa Kenya Kenya again Malawi. And I think it was two dozen twelve where you really hone you. Focus on supporting secondary students to go to school. I remember when you were raising money for. That was a soupy engine campaign. I remember reading saying the by Saad later actually found that old article. I I know it's one of the things that your partner Jim now really lax about your personality loves about your personality that passion to help people and I think that was being before officially about you visiting South Africa Africa as a kid. And we spoke about the fact that that civic-mindedness comes from your mom why specifically helping people in Healthcare and education and why specifically these two countries. It's pretty random. People often ask me. Why Malawi and the honest answer to? That is As I said August wanted to get away from Melvin for walls a young twenty year old sort of DC. I should be disenchanted with With University at the time I was in a bit of concern just needed. I'll just wanted to skype do something meaningful so. I thought you know. I've always wanted to go to Africa. I'll never necessarily thought you know determined melodic volunteer and like make a difference but then naturally always been someone locks engaging with people and that extends to Moi interest in travelling of both when I was traveling after what I don't WanNa discounts if our in the normal normal bullshit in actually going experience a little bit of one. It's locked to ban African rural community. So the no better way to do that than explore some NGOs. That are out there and do some volunteering. So I'm always wanted to. Some wildlife related style falls a big Fan of law long king. When I was a kid saw chase for a few weeks that opportunity guy into long king Africa found an opportunity to do that with Co Wall Loft Quest Kenya And that was wildlife research on the Kenyan Tanzanian boulder in a tackle Rumba for two weeks oil. The chilly out just like a open. Plying Conservancy Kilimanjaro is right there like every morning and it's like a giraffe made his life and you can say this is the choice aspect of March sold out and then I thought next stock ought to do a couple of countries then on all kinds of decisions I really wanted to just You know like five six weeks in one country and really do it. Well you know and understand it and throw a bit of a connection with it and it was completely random on law and I think I had an opportunity in size and beer. And then there's another one in Maui and I remember one not just stop after dinner garden talking to to Mamat St Louis and back in those days. And I said to our money records Zambia. Malawi families early genies and she said all fed really cool things about me. Maybe give that one guy. I said got up allowing completely off the cop and when I got there yeah I mean it was. It had such a distinct difference from Kenya and Tanzania already could really put my finger on it was so it's more you're sort of African Community when you get into Malawi. Was You know this when you get to Kenya? And you get to Nairobi. And it's still caught a big Cedar Mesa Linda soon as you get out of that. So like quintessential what you would associate Africa. Debate was when you get some allow. It's just like this sort of every day. Almost like working class is the the people they're just fantastic for me outside like you struggled not to say a smile on. Somebody's face to spot in other situations that I am themselves with nothing and through that experience obviously did some education volunteering as a teacher which was an enormous challenge. Twenty had classes of like sixty kids. Obviously English I had and it was it was it was a real Shicheng because the school's always volunteering out in rural Malawian tackle monkey vibe which I'll still go back to every They schools Was Struggling to the point where I didn't have qualified teachers. And you have a primary school in allowing four years of high school so you get a lot of kids that they schools be classes and most of them are being taught by civil servants. Muslim qualified teachers. So they'd say this like you know what person coming into town is all you know. You must be like a really well equipped experienced tie. He takeover the Class Diwan while we not so. I just WANNA check out incorrect and then I suppose the more the more sort of impact on that on that experience a realized that what I was doing there in many ways almost was the united like that's adding to negative. What was a little bit of harmful in the sense that You know having having come in for six weeks and teaching English is not what they need. They need someone there every day. I'm allowing TASERS. GonNa be there to support them who understands AIDS and all the different levels in the curriculum. And because you know I got off fly out in like another volunteer motto. Come in they might not and then all muscle some excellent lose that momentum so that was that was an early thing that all identified when I was there that This this kids need a lot more a lot more support that was evident to say just purely based on the classes and the start of the classrooms and the teaching the kids. They didn't even have books and a lot of them. You know they're never needs to rotted so it's just basic stuff that you just you know sorry to access our country but you know really difficult I And then all by the journey are that six six hundred Jane which I ended up getting a lot of because you know at the beginning are a looked at where all the kids are out in Ma Standard three class. Which I think is sort of you know the mating. The average age bracket for standing on keenum allow is an odd had two classes and across classes meeting kids to Ten eleven twelve thirteen fourteen fifteen years in some cases toll. Kids short kids you had. How does this happen? Low them repay And then based on out already you can you can. You can determine the fact that they're at different levels of learning locked there some kids here Excelling in the some kids here just in this repetitious cycle of probably repenting a lot of the same stuff. So when I was teaching English The Civil Service hands me at a book like the Malawi English bookfest ended. And he says you know. We're doing this lesson tonight and I can't remember exactly what the laws but I said I will do bit of a sandbox so these kids are out to upto for tonight so I through and taught the kids around you know went round and I realize that probably about sixty percent of the class actually able to do this lesson. We were purely based on the fact that they didn't know what an adjective was that in. Now what an an was the conjunctions? Well they couldn't build sentences so or scrapped. The book on Day to and from the start told them about the basics of English and Bama six ways most of them were able in a listing grips on an individual level to be out of raw a basic sentence. English so I saw that and I always proud that I've been able to apply myself and get something out of it for not just so maybe for the kids. Then you know you you leaving And then in that sign in that same sort of experience. I've made a lot of kids. Who were finishing Standard Standardi-? They're winding their widening four for high school the following year but the school system over there were similar. Try University system. Where like the better your score is the medical and the university qualify for over there. The Betty Finish on a primary school lady examination. The the better school you can you. Can you can get into government private or like a boarding school. And obviously the face fluctuate according to the quality of the school so you have kids in monkey by Malawi. Living in the cyber will conditions is all night and I really talented and smart off can get into a private boarding school in. Gotcha which isn't a forty five minutes of the ride. Wake Forest Guy. So then you'd make these kids and you talk to head. Moss's neurosis kids signed predicament. Geez I saw as a twenty year old unique student. The thought built a connection through some shooting with some of the kids and I'd like to work through the head. Mosses support Uvira Gio and then the more schools. You went in the air in the Mo- Mossy Spicy. You just realize sort of the skype the problem you know there was a lot of kids who literally couldn't finish school which is giving them some fighting chance of you know that you see in an opportunity law so if they can't even get through school we. I will you know what's the point and then when you learned just how little it costs to get through school you guy you know. Should I think we can really try and do something? So that's where yet educating was kind of born because I got high eventually had a blighted twenty-fifth because I'd had twenty fifth in South Africa with family after all of them allow and I use that as a fundraiser and such was the support we got on the way managed to put Smitten over one hundred hundred kids through school with the money raised on that. Not for you so then by still not obviously guy. Well I just got these kids through school for one year and I can see where the caring helmet comes in. Because you feel a sense of guilt because you care and you want to do more conflicted. Yeah yeah totally which is a good thing. Yeah but then it's noble into something a lot bigger than I never set out to achieve you know necessarily when I went to Africa on top on applying going like. Oh yeah when I get back from from this trip. It's not a charity. It just literally snowball because of an opportunity to to help and then when when you show that Saad of yourself and the do k then naturally there's all the opportunities that can open up from working with an NGO in room allowing with. I say I like now. I'm medical volunteering. Needs Mowing Century. All United as another kid heater need support or we didn't raise obviously without broadening out to him. I should say like you know handing out money. It was a very locks of facility Tori relationship without working through them who registered then gave rise to this idea of walled off. We want to keep doing this. And supporting it. And we're saying the impacts of kids go through school and let's Let's let's let's start movement. He you know. Let's get a logo and a website. I saw a few more events. And so that's that's where it went led to. And that's where we're ended up your. Yeah it it's sort of you can see that you look at problems like Let's say these kids with the lessons that you were giving them and you often look at issues from a strategic point of view as opposed to. Let's just throwing money at this thing which I guess what the effective altruism movement is about like. I remember that will mccaskill guided charity. Listen and at like showed all the different chat all the major charities in the world and like what is the most effective per dollar invested. Yup and now they have worked out that that Malaria Foundation based in Africa is the most effective in one of the lace effective was the Clinton Foundation van. Very interesting because they sort of look at. How much of the phase donated ends up in administration? I know you going on this high to mount kilner Jar Taiba so you raising money for the climb for the clinic off to infancy that that campaign gearing up what what he must excited about for the future. What does the next seas well at? The moment is just finishing this medical clinic which we embarked on in two thousand fifteen so the the clinic is in Malawi in the community where we sponsored kids fall since two thousand twelve. What's the community? It's called Monkey Bay monkey by the villages that were actually essentially by somewhere. Angie are has a bicycle Mamik Karma village but then next door that inches all villages. Where CLINIC IS And this so yeah so going back to the medical clinic log my friend Tim Russell. Pasta y from kids Twenty five to fifteen so off. The back of that that was Paying big supporter and friend of Maun of educating There was obviously a lot of emotion around that around his passing side off the back of that main. His brother organized around for team says we still get a group of close friends together every year and ran the marathon The first year obviously because the emotions were so high you know. He writes a lot of money For Educating Africa and the Children's Hospital And prior to that you know we're just a little small fundraisers for education and stuff you know so we were used to like sort of small amounts and just doing doing tidbits and then all of a sudden we had this laptop of of money and we You know this is huge. What we just like pull this into into sponsoring kids in education and for years conversations with business partner in Malawi the G. R. That we work with it talked about this idea for medical clinic in the community. Because there's a government hospital down the road which is about twenty minutes away but again people in rural Africa Darn Have Qazi access to transport if you do need just basic healthcare along that time a lot of the time I would access that because the hospitals too far away which is where. Ngi through volunteers had implied a role. In I'm doing community outreach. Mobile clinics and stuff so then the idea behind his clinic is that will centralise a lot of is give papal a facility within walking distance guy get bandages. Dopp Kit General Health checks and all this other stuff that you know. The the hospital is either too far away to do. Sometimes you know beyond capacity to be able to provide that help because they're doing die surgeries little you know the sort of big things always q. Out The door for services Embarked on that in two thousand and fifty eight and every year. We've you know I rise more and more money to this guy and we've got a clinic built It's neely ready to open your practice with put a lot of money and Tom into it. And we've brought groups of people I've had to help build it and so two different groups over from Australia now which is also sounds incredibly proud of not just bang. I will too harsh fundraisers here fly the flag for Little Malawi about you know to be out of bring more friends and people who are care about. Iva to to the country that I love and saying them put a brake on building is pretty powerful from where it started. You know in a classroom in two thousand and twelve teaching kids to having my friends actually. Doing physical libraries is extraordinary so Yeah the car and emphasis is on finishing that so coffee clinic. This year's about knocking excitement. We're GONNA CLUMP Kilimanjaro. Which is around the same time that we normally do run for teams. Well some friends which included embark op the up the mountain. Are you gonNa you GonNa take your? What do they call it? Not Travel sickness go Outage sickness tablet. Or with that you are you gonNA take it off. Yeah probably you should. Actually one of my favorite youtube channels is Craig Adams. And he's like a guy who does hikes and he just did the summit of Kilimanjaro. But on for some reason you did on the two groupie normally just learn trekking. I go really sick. Because he didn't take a thought on Takao. Neither travel cygnus tablets and he didn't take any really sick like he's oxygen levels. Go down to like fifty percent. Sorry they had to the poor literally had to take him down and he was sick for like two took him two weeks to recover. Okay so yeah. We'll pepper respond to in different ways response. Different often been hard. Altitudes Guy. A lot people on that group like everyone on that group got their injections tablets and so he was the only one who didn't do it and he was the only one who got sick because the anyone eating summit. I was like damn so it makes me really getting some rapid fire questions to fight you off. What is your morning retain little clock really busy as like this morning? We had a community workshop. Dock lands out for like six thirty in the morning Adopting tomorrow I'm not sleeping a little bit. Just stay on the windows in some taking either hop local news. And how do you decompress at night? If he can question chill out which techno model of work. I've listened to some music and Golfer Golfer Ronald running when I can squeeze in between the Shenzhou. What did he been watching of light watching movies? Tv shows to be honest. I don't watch a lot of even always say on a Monday. Non For cancels. We'll probably just stick to that. I like yeah I'd we've we have net flicks but more and more M- using it less. I think main thing that I use. Is You trip? That he's even then. I Barely Watch TV. George generals come netflixing. Can't so we watch a little bit on weekends having a bit of Dan Tomba I think we we started watching the the the tyler's swift documented. This didn't finish watching springs. Demont say if you had to give one book to the audience what would it be and why? Let's say coming off Christmas way down at the end of this year they Charles Cross room full of mirrors which is a bog feedback Jimi Hendrix Jimi Hendrix. Fan of like that and last question for you. If you have a billboard anywhere in Melbourne where would obey and boy on it obey on top of the naloxone because I just haven't physique lassie yet or a massive poor Kellyanne interviewing wants to which is a great moment right but I used to live opposite? The naloxone follows in an apartment on class straights South Yarra actually leaving there at the time when people broke in and turn the clock back on which understands paying ten back on recently this new development for Prime. Yeah it will be permanently back on restoring. Yeah but I just love yeah. I love that sort of that. Industrial part of of Melbourne and that block the history of that clock and Paul Kelly in the music sort of Decisi inside chocolate billboard up one way can people find you and what you're doing on the Internet I can fall us. Educating Africa Dot Org Hop Lark News Dot Com. Are you and three hop local news? You can get lost head. Save it in us. Don't do southbank local news dot com. Today you beautiful Sean. Thanks so much for coming in. Thanks for listening to this episode. If you like it do leave save written review on your podcast as it helps us continue going on a weekly by system. We do love reading those views as well If you want to show notes you can find that Ballard all without previous guests at neurology dot com slash podcast at any you double A. Dot com slash podcast. 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Starting 9 Episode #83 - Evan Longoria

"What back to starting nine episode three? My word. Wow. Why all can you smell it smells green? What's that smell like a city, smells, the different? Green is a different. Cash monday. Not even the dollars to smell that that fresh cut grass smell hotdogs, some Bruce keys. Dirt under the spikes, right around the corner cigar small I always associates cigar smoke with with baseball season two. Maybe it's a Boston thing you always get those fat Italians on Yawkey way smoking stogies space ball season. Baby. Can't that's not a massive west comes thing. Yeah. No. You guys. You guys are smoking some different stuff. Baseball by the time this podcast hits the interwebs baseball season. We'll have already returned. First pitch will have been thrown across the pond migraine green gold your Seattle mariner out there. Browns crew. They'll be getting it on. Yeah. Five thirty AM in my reading this correctly, five thirty five first pitch. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know. I mean. Ball. But I love sleep too. I might just catch the highlights. It's I dunno. I feel Jay you're gonna wake up for this. No. Oh, wow. Yeah. You. Yeah. Your fans, and actually that's not. That's actually, not true. I have to get up anyway at like six thirty or six forty five. So now that I'm talking about. I probably will just go ahead and get up. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, I I wa- I probably will. I'll probably wake up and tweet like a couple of innings just that everyone sees how dedicated I am. And then I'll just go back to sleep. On. I'm just going to power through stay away. I think you sort of just gave yourself away in a believe your investment now. I'll just schedule some tweets schedule tweets for like six forty five. Holy shit. You see that? Yeah. You should you should. And just tag me in all you see. Schedule. What see the depth on that slider? It's crazy. You're that chart. Evan longoria long on the podcast today as the spikes up tore content continues to seep seep out of the library that we have stored by the way, the YouTube channel officially launches on Thursday. But if you go to the YouTube page, I think all you have to do is type in starting nine on YouTube, and you will see a full interviews. Every interview that we've released so far on this podcast. The full length interview will live on that YouTube page. So that means no-one are not oh that means Trevor Bauer in my cleven jer that means Luke Voight that means that Evan longoria. They were all there on that YouTube page right now everybody everybody air body forget to that. Evan longoria interview, though. My trout, and we're not gonna we're not diving deep into micro yet. But we can't just start the podcast with an elephant in the room that elephant ask contract. And that's not a knock that is just talking about the size of this twelve year extension. Kraut got nice of him to leave money on the table too. I thought, you know, realistically, do you think? We'll just I I want to answer this question before we use a little tease just a little tip of the iceberg conversation piece. Do you think that if Mike trout waited until twenty twenty hit free agency that he would have gotten more total dollars on the free agent market? For the years of free agency. I'm going to. I'm going to say I'm gonna say, yes, I'm gonna say, yes, I'm going to say, yes. From who? I mean, I feel like somebody finds somebody finds a place lines. I think we could make some room for that guy in the Rosser like, yeah. Because there's nobody that you're saying goodbye to if you're any organization that you're not okay with welcoming Mike trout as the replacement. Yeah. So I mean, like, you know, as far as who there's there's that's a that's a knee jerk. Like, I don't have a good answer for that. Because there's a lot of what if you know like you can you can make a lot of things move around. So I think I'll say this much do I think might trout gets a half a billion dollars. If he hits regency. Yes. Jay. I think he would have gotten more than he received. But I don't think he would have had half a billion. I do think it's amazing that this contract is universally regarded as him still being underpaid. It is it is. I I didn't. I basically didn't see any take counter to that. Well, exactly. And that's like I said it was almost like people were just across baseball people were like. Well, thank God. It's not the fucking Yankees. And that was it. And and we just you know, you just can't keep your head down. And you kept smashing your your chicken potpie a done deal. Yeah. So I was fan graphs. I I love fan graphs. I think it's when you use the value tool to see what a player was actually worth based on their statistics. Here's what I came up with. So if Mike trout micro last season, it was his best season statistically, ever, how much do you think that that season was worth in dollar form? Like as as far as what the av is these days based on what based on what the market is right now based on what his statistical production was in twenty eighteen what does that acquaint to in dollars? I'm going to say twenty million dollars. Eighty five million dollars is my guess he was worth seventy eight point six million dollars in twenty eighteen. In his career, flew twenty eighteen he has been compensated seventy eight point three million dollars. So he was worth last year. Basically what he's been paid in his entire major league career. So if you take all those numbers what his production has actually been worth to this point through age twenty six season. Mike has been worth four hundred ninety four point five million dollars. That's what he's actually been worth half a Bill. Yes. So I guess I'm not I didn't understand the question that wasn't like based on the contract, or what the contracts are being handed out. Yeah. No. It's just take the numbers. And if you what is that actually worth based on production? Yeah. So he. There's that again, do you just always I always lean on he's better than half the people in the hall of fame right now right now, he's already accumulated comparable seasons. So I have that as well. I have some names for you Dallas right now through his age twenty six season. Mike trout's career wins above replacement sixty four point three. These are some hall of famers whose war is inferior to Mike shouts. Dave Winfield sixty four point two. Jackie Robinson, sixty one point four Harmon Killebrew sixty point four Mike Piazza fifty nine point six Yogi Berra fifty nine point four Vladimir Guerrero. Fifty nine point four Hank Greenberg. Fifty seven point six then Mike did this past all of them by his age twenty sixties? That's ludicrous. Just just that puts it in perspective. Nobody I mean, I'm not gonna say nobody. I'm sure I mean, I don't know. Maybe the kid Griff who knows? Had eclipsed hall of Famer to in route to his career not not not at that age. No chance. I would say I mean, maybe I'm maybe I'm way off there. What I looked it up earlier today. So like, obviously the like there's been so much done on Mike trout, generally that it's hard to find like new statistical angles or like, hey, this makes him sound really impressive or whatever. And maybe this doesn't I don't know. But I was just looking at different stuff since he debuted in twenty eleven so obviously is twenty eleven season is irrelevant to what I'm about to tell you. But that's when he technically debuted since he debuted he has bas- basically twice as many MVP votes as the next closest person in baseball. If you add up all of his first second third, fourth all those all of his finishes in the MVP votes. How they do it point wise. He's number one and me go Cabrera is number two. And it's not even close about it. It took. I mean wrap your head around this people whether or not you value the statistics that embodied the award. It's okay. Triple crown it took a fucking triple crown to be won by the F or mentioned megi Cabrera to to not give my trout in MVP that had to let's the kind of performance that had to happen to not win another MBP. Yeah. I was actually going to say that was. That one that was Miguel Cabrera winning back to back triple triple crowns NBP awards that that first one the year that he won the triple crown and perhaps on justly when the MVP Dow's is first of two by that point. We're talking a generational hitter. Who it's like, all right. If we don't get like trout's going to win this for the next fuck in fifteen years, we gotta get biggie. His one before he gets into his thirties. We may never see a season like this from Maggie ever again. So I get it. I get because I mean, imagine I mean he does have to but at the time he had zero. So imagine having Miguel Cabrera be this generational hitter pools has a boatload of him Miguel Cabrera just never winning MVP. That'd be a little bit weird. You know, for sure what thing I wanted to ask you guys indiapol- Hitchens as we understand the life of the contract any apprehensions moving forward. What are what are you see? As far as cracks something. I think about defense. I think he slides nicely to like a corner outfield spot because the defensive metrics. It's not that. They don't love my coat. It's just they don't know what to make of my job. If you look at his his defensive run save year to year. It's like, he's he sucks. He's great. He sucks. It's it's every other year the defense in the eyeball test. You watch Mike Shotton a nightly basis, which we do not everyone does which is unfortunate. But we do he's an elite defender is no way to say otherwise. But the defensive metrics would tell you every other year, he sucks. He's great. Let me say this. I'm not posing the question because that's what I feel. I'm I it's it's it's I guess twofold, one because I I think for him to have taken an adamant stance on dressing his defense. His throwing arm is accurate things. Like, he was like, I'm I'm just be better. I'm going to get better at. That tells me like, okay. You know, what he he cares? He cares about that. He doesn't want that stigma attached to him at all. And the second thing is like the the defensive metrics. I'm I'm out on them as a whole I would have to say because we haven't found a proper way to value ridiculous athletes, and because of the defensive shift that gives guys value that don't necessarily deserve it as well. So it's it's you'd it's random. It's I don't know. Yeah. I we're gonna do the full Mike trout thing. That's that's just that's just let's just eat it. Let's that's what people are downloading this particular podcast for Evan longoria and Mike trout. Fucking getting bread say at Dallas Saint bread at up. Check it. Need that on a t shirt? We're talking on radio today about I asked Kevin do you? Do you? Listen to podcasts. He's like, no. Because like, I don't wanna get like other people's thoughts and have them become my thoughts. And I was like being around Dallas all the time. I don't necessarily get his thoughts but fucking start talking like a mall time from around him for two. Like, Mike Chow said that was my tweet Mike show the extension of house. I check it. Going, bro. That was I fucking lost my mind. I started screaming in the house, and my grandma was like what the hell is going on. And I was telling her like. Are you gotta understand like this do just almost got half a billion dollars now? And people people are like kinda like did he get what he was worried that? She's like what what is he who is this, and I was like Mike, trello, and even my grandma was like. Like, she almost see it in my book and grab she's not follow. May. She was like what was was tied to him. Nice. Boy, circling back to the question asked you guys if my trout hits the free market, he definitely makes more. But I don't think when you're talking talking about north of four hundred million dollars the fucked is like an extra, you know, fifty million seventy whatever it is whatever the number is whatever he could have gotten extra at what point are years. We get it, dude. Your grandkids grandkids grandkids grandkids are going to fucking private school like we know that much private schools. Yeah, we get it. So yeah, I think Mike shot would it comes down to is. He loves playing for the angels loves the the ballpark of everything about what's going on over there. So yeah, I if that's what you want. If you're in a place where you're happy cause. Everyone's like, well, why why did you go to a market where he could win? It's like, dude he signed fucking twelve. Year contract. Who's to say the angels aren't going to contend five six years. You know, it doesn't now that they have him locked in. If you're the angels. Now, you're sort of looking at well how we build around him. And it's not like, you it Mike show. It had an extension before to where you weren't looking at, you know, the three years of service time that three years of arbitration. Then what do we do? Do we build around a guy? That's just gonna leave it free agency. Like, he's he's already played. He's already been in the big leagues for eight years seven full major league seasons. He was in all star in all seven. He either finished first or second in six of those seven full seasons in the one year that he didn't he finished fourth because he was fucking hurt. So it's who's to say that the angels can't now turn around and be like he's here for his entire career. Like that. This is it he's a lifelong angel. Let's get this guy to Kobe again. And actually give them a shot to do something. Once he gets there. And let's not sleep on the fact that you've got the world's best baseball player as well. As the world's most inning Matic baseball player in show. Oh, hey, Otani and pairing those two as a selling point over the next for over the foreseeable future. How you know the the life of the contract with Otani, and then again, twelve years with trout like there's there's two pretty cheap pieces right there that you can you can be excited about and I even I was tweeting with a guy G R E G lower case g collie about about this. Like, hey, I feel like the angels are going to have to be aware of putting pieces around him. If he's going to stay there because let's be real, man. The fuck and halos are still trying to figure out if they're going to be the Long Beach halos. Are they going to be the Newport halos the marina del Rey lows? Like what what are they going to be who are they going like they got a lot I run out. And I feel like that's that was kind of. I was like. Wow, trout, somebody who kind of you know, appreciates consistency. I would say, yeah. And the fact that that's up in the air. You know, I don't know. Yeah. So there's two different sort of angles that I wanna hit on with this whole trout thing. Number one, everyone gets on him for not being marketable or the it's two things. It's major. Everyone's like major league baseball doesn't do a good enough job marketing might show that's probably fair, but Mike trout doesn't necessarily want to be marketed. He's not going to give you that's a cloned question, bro. He's not going to do that. He's not going to do the backflips. He's not gonna flip. As all the things that you love about Bryce Harper. That's just not my show. And I feel like if now through eight major league seasons going to his ninth if he were to start doing that you like well now, he's phony. So Mike is Mike chart is. And I don't understand the whole in. Don't talk to me about the market. As Ken Griffey junior was the face of baseball for a long time in Seattle Pacific northwest. But baseball fans, and I hope you guys come to appreciate this. You can have your Cup of tea. You can have your, you know, your don't want to say straight laced. But you can have your plays the game the right way guy. If that's how you view, Mike, trout and love everything that he does. And you can have your Bryce Harper guy who's unapologetic and is himself at has grown up at the big league level and shouldn't be chastised to the extent that he has. I mean, I've been critical of him as far as running stuff out. But then I also remember like the day after he was benched. He's in the game. Or I it might have even been the later in that game. He ends up trying to square around in. But just trying to make up for like. Like almost recognizing acknowledging. Hey, my bad like so you can have your your rebel face of the game. And you can have your, you know, straight laced face of the game. You don't have to pick. Enjoy the both. Yeah. And I get it. If if you're a casual baseball fan who can't just appreciate Mike show for being the best baseball player on planners. If there's something that you need extra from them. I get it because we're used to the face of baseball being even when Ken Griffey junior all due respect to him one of the greatest players ever play the game when he was playing was he the best baseball player. Like, yeah. He certainly had a case for it. But these playing in the same era as bonds. So if you're playing in the same errors bonds, guess what you're taking a back seat to Barry. Lamar. That's just a fact, but with Mike trout, just try to appreciate him for what he is. Because to have sort of how we've broken it down. He's already surpassed hall of famers by his age twenty six season. And depending on who you ask. But if you read up enough about age curves in baseball your age twenty seven season is technically the. First of your peak seasons. So in two thousand eighteen we saw the best season of Mike trout's career. Does that mean that we've seen as best season because I don't think that we have. So appreciate him. While you still have these peak years in front of you. And I thought what was really great is around the league today because he is that type of player you have guys like Kris Bryant and all their stars in the game. Being like, he got everything that he deserved. He's worth. How many how many times have in any sport? Are we talking about not just a guy getting a monster contract? Not just the guy becoming the highest paid player in their profession or the highest paid player. This is Mike trout the highest paid player in professional sports and people are saying he might have gotten short-changed. That's how fucking good, Mike shroud. Is that's insane to think of and they're not wrong. It's not about being shortchanged. Rather as you just alluded to guys across the game talking about what kind of duty is what kind of character is when you're probably conceptually faced with the amount of money that you could potentially put away. It's Mike trout who's probably making the decision on leaving that fifty seventy five extra mill whatever that whip cream would be on top probably the one going now. It's all good. I've got my cherry, and that's here for the next twelve years. All Bryce Harper. I'm here for thirteen brotherly love, I don't I don't even want to give you the idea that I want out I'm here to bleed in sweat and cry and celebrate with you over the course of this contract. And I don't at any point in time once you thinking, otherwise, so it's all up out of all of that move. Exactly. So that right there take that folks. As as your Tako message of what these guys are actually. All about the sort of competitors. One. Does it quietly puts his head down is shaking hands and kissing babies behind the scenes making people's dreams. Come true. Whether there's a camera in his face or not, and that's your Mike trout, and that's the guy who doesn't need to be sold because he sells himself every morning. He bucket wakes up. And then you've got Bryce Harper who gets your kids excited about the game of baseball gets you ruffled up about the game of baseball and get your Granddad pissed off about the game baseball. But nonetheless has gotten all your asses in the seat in front of the TV to watch said game baseball. So appreciate these young men because they've committed to the game they've committed to their teams. I hope that you can commit to them. I like that like that Mike out is not Bryce Harper. And that's okay. Because like you said Bryce Harper the type of guy to bring in that audience. So, hey, I'm checking baseball who's this guy? Oh, it's my I'll fucking watch this guy. He's awesome. But when you look at these two contracts that were given out. In the past. I don't know. Call two three weeks. Whatever it was. Is it crazy to you? That might trout got a hundred million more dollars than Bryce Harper. Because I don't think that it's that crazy. It's like that's Mike trout is in a class of his own. There is a tier beneath him. And then it's just everybody else. And when you look at where Bryce Harper fits into that we're talking again about a generational talent. But then it's like this sort of gives you the perspective where the angels weren't like fuck if we really want to keep them. We get a blow it out of the water. Like, we're talking about my trout potentially making more if he had tested for the agency. So when you look at Bryce Harper getting three thirty Mike Trump getting four thirty that represents the gap between Mike trout and everybody else a hundred mil more year less. I mean, come on. It's just not even if there was ever a conversation. That's what like your face of baseball conversation feel free to have that debate. As we kind of did not a debate. But just kind of a look inside of as far as the best player in the game. If you were questioning what the industry felt or if you request at store at minimum. How the angels felt here's your answer. I'd be curious to see and all the yahu fantasy leagues where Mike trout goes if it's just ninety nine point nine nine nine nine nine percent as the as the one one and who is taken well as the first pick. If it's not my trout is obviously someone that's that auto drafted or is just an idiot. Or is there flee their favorite player is Mukhi bets? Like, I'm taking Mookie. There's just no that's why I'm excited to play in our league with you. Because I know that's what you will be doing. If you somehow I won't even do that DAL horseshoe out here. That's a blatant lie. That's a blatant lie. And I can't believe anything that comes out of your mouth. If you're telling me that. What would I can't believe is that when you make that move? I will be selecting Mike trout, and that's that's a mere matter of your matter of moments away from because base is is right around the corner. Which means you folks need to get your ass up and sign up for Yahoo. Fantasy baseball fantasy app is the number one mobile app in fantasy baseball and it's pretty much the official fantasy game of the MLB. Check this shit out. Yahu pro leaks public leagues, this is where you play for cash, folks. Give gimme the loot. Best part is Yahoo handles all the money for you. None of those Commissioner headaches. Now, they handle all that biz by in for twenty bucks up to a rack doesn't matter. 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They've already thrown first pitch. So factor. Those performances in and make sure you go to Yahoo dot com. Slash fantasy baseball to get your business. It. While play a little pepper here. I do I'm hitting Dallas is kind of turned into a little like woes of major league baseball. He's kind of letting you know on Twitter that he knows. But he's not telling you what he knows. So if you're not falling Dow's braiding on Twitter, and you're a baseball fan out say now's a good time to do it. Because he's again, it's almost he's just dropping little little Easter eggs is let you know with. I'll let you know. So, but if you are in educated baseball fan, you can sort of figure it out between the lines get your that's not you know, what I mean. That's not my job. And you can you can appreciate this more than I think the listeners even Kannur anybody that might follow me because I'm texting you stuff. And I'm texting J. Hey stuff. I'm texting other guy's stuff before it happens. And then you see it unfold and you're like. Okay. Yeah. That's not my Essy's. Not my job, not my jams. Now what we're to do. So what I'm there? I just enjoyed that. You know, enjoy that information I joined that accident. Actually, just left a comment on my Instagram picture, and they said, what are you going to actually start breaking news? And I said that's like asking a quarterback when he's gonna start catching passes in the end zone. It's just we play the same sport. It's just not my job. That's not. That's not what we're here for your for. Now, we do but GIO Gonzalez lefty going to the Yankees. This was something that just flat out made sense. I was surprised it was a minor league deal because you know, that the Incas are going to need them. You know, you know, that it's going to be they they could lose use a guy like Louis Sessa in the rotation because Sobat the is down Severino's down. I mean, you're going to need a guy like geo like he's not coming in to just wait around in extended spring training report to a minor league camp, you're gonna need to right out the gate, and here's your gonna eat him out of the gate. But here's here. If you I'm sure there haven't looked at their schedule. But sure there's off days involved in there that's going to allow for rotation manipulation early on. They're not afraid. I would assume to deploy a bullpen game in an effort to to kind of stave off until the arrival of GIO. I think that mess with that in spring training either yesterday or the day before fiddle with that the only thing there is and this is what leads me to to the point. I wanna make your is Batanes. This is not going to be ready for opening day. So you don't want to you don't wanna bring those young kids up and have them make, you know, make a start or whatever started to maybe geo isn't ready. And now they've got to go into the bullpen, or you know, who knows what can happen, and you would hate to just start them there instead of out of performance out of necessity, and then kind of create a hiccup so GIO make sense. Not like he's had a ton of success out of the bullpen. He's done it. That's that's the only point. I make it's veteran who I think can sort of slide in and out if that were the case pretty wild. A guy who threw one hundred seventy one basically we average innings is taking a minor league deal like a week and a half before the season starts for centrally. No money. That's why that's why you know. I forget who it was. There are some probably John Hayman. I'm just assuming the dumbest reporter that. There is somebody said see look may Machado and Bryce Harper got their money, the system's fix it. Wasn't. There wasn't anything wrong with it. When you have a guy like geo Gonzales getting a minor league deal for peanuts. I mean, something is still wrong with the system. It's basically the equivalent of that person guy or girl that you know, who. You know, when it's re- like a cold day in the summer unusually cold. There's a water you mean global warming. Right, right. Well, okay. This is just one part of the entire world. And it's just one day say the other two names right now kaikal kimbrel. The fact that I had a great three last night. If you saw the fact that Adam Jones, what breaking bad reference, I said. Craig kimbrel is still waiting on his couch like Huel. That's one of the breaking bad theories. Was that the it was Steve Gomez and a shack Schrader, they're just like, hey, wait on this couch, and we'll be right back. And then they both actually never mind might be a spoiled people that spoiler that won't spoil anything, but he just got left there. Yeah. It's your turn ING deaf more than viable options in my opinion into heap items. And that's just not right, man. Edwin Jackson Christ is still just not even come on. So then if he's still out there. I remember a podcast. You're like, yeah. We can't afford them. Why don't they just throw a minor league deal at like the did with geo because Geos obviously the better pitcher, and he's still taking a deal like that? Because guys guys especially Jack's position with the money. He's made the age the family, you take it to the house over over dealing with the rigors of season. So I understand where these vets are coming from cargo is going to the Indians. Jay, I'll give you the floor in five seconds. My only take on this is what an idiot for leaving chorus field. You look at those home road splits. His opium is like well north of nine hundred thousand cores is opium on the road is like seven something. It's it's gross on the road. I don't know why he would ever leave unless the Rockies just flat out did not want him back. There's zero reason for him to leave Colorado. The sense I got is that it was just kind of over between him and Colorado. Like they have a billion. Guys, who are like sort of outfielders like he is at this point. So I'm just not I think he was a redundancy. And I think last year was kind of like, let's bring him back and see see what's going on whether the magic can be recaptured. And it really was not my take on this is that it's it's a nother sign of what was an incredibly frustrating and depressing off for the Indians. Like, this is just to me him and Hanley Ramirez are just not acceptable answers to let's try and fix one of the on paper least competent outfields in baseball for a team. That's trying to close a seventy year championship, title gap. There was an article in the athlete that was just incredibly depressing by Rosenthal. The other day about the like the Indians may start entertain trading door like as soon as this coming off season. Like if you are already acknowledging that you can't keep Fran or won't keep franscisco indoor three years before he becomes a free agent. Cancel the season. Just cancel the franchise. Like what like, I know. This isn't about cargo but cargo to me is just like another. He's a sexy name or a name that used to matter. But to me, he's just another guy that is only available because of how little money the Indians have to pay him to come. Sure. No. That makes sense. And I'm not going to go down that rabbit hole. I think we can get to that later. I'll just say this about the addition he joins a fairly left-handed outfield in a fairly left-handed bench. Right. I mean. Yes. Bowers Neko, Greg Alan is a switch hitter. But I mean, he. Luke blow is the only is the only right handed hitter in that outfield by wins above replacement. He's been worth point to war over a thousand plate appearances over the last two seasons. So that's not really more about cargo as much as it is about what are the Indians thinking going and getting him. And is it more just about that name and that cheap factor? Yeah. Like, I guess if he's platoon properly like there's a way you could extract a little bit of value out of him. I just I just feel like they were actually like high performing outfielders who are variable for not that expensive of financial layout. And once again, just the bottom of the barrel here, even if cargo was an outstanding player half a decade ago. We'll go ahead. I was gonna say, you know, who's take I want on this next topic. Yes. I know who take you. Remember, our old friend of is from the digital show. Yeah. I would love it. I wouldn't love it. I mean, I I don't remember as Twitter handle. But I could probably find it. And there's there's gotta be. When we released this podcast. It hurts. This hurts man. This hurts ROY the plumbing not great, Michael Fulmer TJ walk L least. I mean, it's it's a year and a half. So I mean like now that it's happening right at a start talking sucks. Yeah. No. It does suck. So yeah, you're talking about potentially missing two full seasons of this. Which is not. That's that's that sucks. That sucks a lot. It's brutal. I mean, you talk about a dude who was just sitting down talking to the guy you could you could since the site -ment just the man he wants to compete so fucking bad so bad he wants to compete and for that to be pushback now or another I mean. Dude. I'm just speechless. I really am. Because I go back to last year. And I'm thinking at some point in time this had to have been on their radar. No. Yeah. Because wasn't he his name came up? Theo tried to there was there was never anything confirmed, but THEO is rumored to be flipping. Or attempting to flip Kyle Schwarzer Schwartz was the name for Fulmer, and then that might have been like two years ago, but the love Schwarzer, and then there was also a rumor about the Yankees kicking the tires on Fulmer. But then that's when sort of injury concerns came up in the dip in velocity and everything. And that's what has to be so frustrating for the Tigers perspective, right? Is that like in this post Cabrera ver- Lander I know Cabrera is still around but the post core of that group title run, they're they're being really good like Fulmer was kind of guy that the fan base could look at as a guy who had already reach. The major league level. And who is like, okay. This is the first sign of what could be our next team. Right. And like to your guys point they resisted. And who knows how real they were what they were offered, but they resisted multiple overtures to trade Fulmer and get additional future assets. And it's unfortunate because Fulmer is basically if you look at his career, he's basically an asset this statistically has been headed in the straight wrong direction. Reasonably since his first year, I looked at it. If you look at your a minus which adjust for like park and all that kind of stuff in twenty sixteen. He was twenty eight percent better than league average in twenty seventeen. He was thirteen percent better than league average. And last year was ten percent worse than league average. So. Hey numbers guy. About last last season. Because fucking ligament was hanging quite clearly that's all part of the picture. I'm not saying he's incapable of pitching what I'm saying. Is isn't it? No, it's not what I'm saying. Is that? She is typically worse basically since he stepped into the big leagues. This is. At once I buck and boats for Christ's sake was an all star. And he's getting worse. No, no. That last season was about as arm not fucking working and him still making twenty five bucks starts. I would say the ability to be healthy and pitch is extremely important for a pitcher. You would know you would know that. That's why you're here with us. You're absolutely right. This is my Buchan hill, but I've made do and I've been able to recognize that this doesn't put an end to him. And it doesn't define him for me. This is kind of like the autopsy here. This is telling you why the season went the way it went this. What will if it's for? Sure, I just I didn't like the way you were coming off. That's all I'm saying his loss has actually gone up year to year since twenty sixteen. But there was a there was a point in time where there was a dip in last year. Yeah. Yeah. But I'm talking average fastball velocity year over year. It has gone up. We met colts are being looked at and things like that are being assessed when there is a dip. That's when people start to think about an acute injury. Like, oh around about this date, this timeframe here. This might have been when the injury occurred. So that's when you get the pictures taken, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. But. Line this sucks to the point that perhaps in eloquently laid out earlier. Oh, I think the the problem for the Tigers here is that. Yes. You have an asset that looked really promising in a part of your future for whatever reason he is now a little bit less promising and the real upsetting part is that by the time he's actually healthy and back pitching. The Tigers are essentially going to have to make a decision about their future relationship with him because their team control of him will almost be over anyway. So that's okay. It is absolutely okay. Puts them in a tough spot. That's all in what's already a very tough spot for team without much talent. You just wanted to make sure we understood this guy who went from rookie of the year was an all-star and then had a shit year because his arm was barking and he pitched through needing Tommy John at some time. And that's where we're at today. So a thank you for kind of cleaning that up. Jay, no problem. It was really well. Said the first time, but I wanted to him. Seekie buying tickets can be complicated and confusing, but there's a simpler way to buy with Seekie. Seek is the smartest easiest way to get tickets to every type of live event, whether you're catching your favorite musician on tour shopping for the perfect gift or searching for a last minute deal to see your favorite team. Seek helps you find the best seats at the best prices fully guaranteed. Nothing beats being there in person for the biggest plays of the year, and seek will get you closer to the action for a great value. You know, better, you know, better than anybody jeered. 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I can confirm that happen that when the Red Sox when the clube didn't put the bats out that one day. That. Yeah. A single solitary fucking hit. You remember Jared had already drowned and chicken fingers or stay all of up to your tits barbecue sauce kid. That's honestly, the number one thing I'm looking forward to is the steak kebab and the dibs. You just you just wait, my friend because I'm going to be I'm going to be introducing you to this to this new hamburger this dude actually won the this cooking competition last year. It's a fucking deep fried hamburger in a ball. You're going what? Yeah. Going to blow your mind, corrobos blow your mind. Well, I am certainly not opposed to having my mind blown, and my mind will certainly be blown during the end at least preview when I have to mind something good to say about the Marlins. Let's start with the Braves though. Yeah. Let's do it. I think it's pretty simple for me. Pretty simple short and sweet. What are the software season's gonna look like base? Pretty much Ozzy Kuna. What are they gonna look like, that's that's it? I mean, you can. At JD. You got more cake back. These guys were pivotal. These guys were pivotal kunia and on in Ozzy. So the book is out. What do they look like what does that? What does that look like I'm right there as far as goes, I am right there with you. There are a few people that fascinate me as much as what they're going to bring this season. Because everybody went into asked year being like Ozzy Albee's is hot shit, and then he was hot shit and everybody was like see he's a star. Let's wash our hands of that and move on. And then when nobody was looking or very few people were looking he basically went into the tank in the second half of the year. And I'm not I'm not I love the guy. So I'm not being overly critical. But like, it's just fascinating. Because his on base percentage ended up barely over three hundred three nine or is. He a good player that you want while before he becomes a free agent. Or is he a franchise caliber player we're gonna find out? Okay. So it's interesting for the second half. Because like I said the book is out and how do they adjust? How do these kids adjust to what we clearly saw Ozzy adjustments being made to him right for sure. Fair to say, absolutely. For me, you sort of touch on. It's gonna be Josh Donaldson. I wanna see Josh Donaldson being healthy. The interview is probably going to be next week. Josh donaldson. The starting night interview that we did with him at Braves camp. We talked to him. I don't know if he's talked about it on the podcast, but you mentioned going vegan. So trying new things to with his switching of his diet. Trying to stay healthy. I wanna see on a one year deal something to prove. Hey, don't forget about me. Josh donaldson. What is that guy? Look like, and how does he change that Braves lineup to where you have. We mentioned a kunia we mentioned Albee's FREDDY Freeman we haven't even mentioned yet in the Braves discussion. Yeah, let's throw that fucking name in there. What is that lineup? Look like one through five because Nick Marquette, we that was a guy that was MVP candidate in the first half of the season faded, obviously because of played all one sixty two. So how do we sort of look at this Braise lineup? How does Josh Donaldson? Change. How maybe a guy like FREDDY Freeman is pitched like FREDDY Freeman's game elevate is even possible for his his game to elevate in the more. That's why a kunia is. So important is because think about that sandwich. And that's you know, FREDDY Freeman at no point in time is he being pitched like an aide whole hitter. But my point is if the guy behind you is somebody they feel like they can dispose of your somebody. They feel like they don't need to address. They don't need to put themselves in a bind here. So I'm gonna go fishing biking. Get you to bite outstanding. Maybe you don't hurt me. And you just flare one over to the left side. And I'm good to go 'cause you're standing on first anyway, and I've got the double play in order behind me. Or I've got two outs with no damage, and I've got the young kid who I've got the book out on its early. And he hasn't made these adjustments in the off season or in the cage and spring. So let's fuck. So that's why JD is important, but I felt Acuna was important as well. Because JD your boy, our boy he has links to that lineup as the resident. Pitcher in the on the podcast. I'm gonna go with Sean nukem. Listing looked like a breakout candidate last year three point nine zero overall, which is obviously solid, but it was four point nine one over the final nineteen appearances and six three four over his final nine his big issue as a minor leaguer was free passes the issued four point eight per nine innings in the minor leagues. He's at four point seven per nine innings through two hundred and sixty four innings in the major leagues. I once one of the most fascinating scouting reports. I ever heard was on Sean nukem where they said that they don't know how he's going to improve his base on balls because his mechanics are already so smooth that like he's he's sort of already delivering the ball as officially our affectively as you possibly can. And so like, there's no like mechanic cleanup to kind of get him to deliver more strikes. I'm not a scout. But I always that always stuck with me. But from what looked like a breakout to really kinda crumbling down the stretch. I'm interested to see what they get out of him. It what's going to be kind of his second full season. Now in in major league baseball. That's the Braves next up on the list is the Washington nationals, and I feel like we've had this conversation before where we pretty much across the board. Agreed that if the Washington nationals do not have Bryce Harper in twenty nine nine are they still a team to be reckoned with? I think the answer is. Yes, the answer is still. Yes. Now that we know Bryce Harper is not coming back and one of the big reasons for that. Is once Soto go gives he is he comparable to Bryce Harper. Could he's the typically be better than Bryce Harper in twenty nine hundred. And I think that the answer to that could also be yes, we saw how good he was not relatively small sample. It wasn't a full season. But it was it was enough. To know this kid is a is a special talent. But it's sort of the same points that we made about a Kuna the same points. We made about Albee's the book is out on Soto. How does he sort of make the adjustments to the adjustments? But the. Rot talent that we saw from him to go back and watch his highlight reel from twenty eighteen. You're like this is not a kid that came that came up to the big leagues and had a stroke of luck. This is someone that's going to be a special player in this league for many years to come. So I'm interested to see what he's going to look like poised to drop. Dick, km's, no doubt doesn't hit cheapies. That's for sure. Earns. Can I say one nugget on him before Dallas you say yours get in there? So fan graphs has the zips projections for two thousand nineteen up Mike trout, obviously, the clear number one in terms of weighted on base average. Right. Do you wanna know who they have is number two in all of baseball in wilda make it tasty on soda. Trout one Soto. Harper Jose Ramirez, JD Martinez. Aaron judge Christian yellow Mookie Betts FREDDY Freeman. Number two. He's one of only two players projected have an a woah above four hundred. Which is I mean, whether or not it happens. The fact that the stats are telling us, it might be possible as fucking crazy given where he was at when we were recording this equipment podcast entering twenty team. That was not only tasty that was so tasty. So to it's. A workshop. Yet. You know, what I'm going to take it back to the mound. I do Jay. I'm sorry as our as a resident as a resident pitcher, I appreciate your takes. But I don't mean to steal your thunder. No, not at all. It's about Corbin Sanches. That's what it's about. I think is can these guys take pressure off of max and straws who I think we have all understood income come do, except there's probably going to be a physical delay at some point in time. There's going to be something that needs paid attention to. And when that's the case they have the guys who were like Tannen Rourke hundred eighty plus any type guys to to whether those storm can these guys be those guys can they help the the elite arm of the NFL Baxter's are can mail. I believe they can. I'm excited to see it. Because I mean, Jeremy hillocks is also a guy who what he was hurt last. You got hurt with a wrist wrist, Johnny or something like that something's wrong with his wrist. But he threw the ball well through the ball decent. So I feel like with the addition of Corbin, Sanches, sure. So I'm going to piggyback off that because mine was also on a ball Sanchez. I mean, I just think it's he is inherently fascinating in that. It looked like he was out of almost out of baseball, and then is like eight somewhat desirable free agent commodity this off season like he had to he had to take a deal. Nobody wanted him last year. And now you went through a twenty eighteen season where he posted his highest strikeout rate highest swinging strike rate since twenty thirteen his highest ground ball rate is highest or his best home run rate and is best v since two thousand fourteen and he made it an approach change way. Fewer fastballs because as the league velocity overall wind up anabol- Sanchez's fastball velocity went down. And I'm not saying that's why he made the choice, but it logically it holds up and he drastically reducing reduced his foresee matuzici fastball use and increased his changeup us. So I'm interested to see like whether that's a change that can sustain itself. Like is that an approach it's going to lead to continued success? The stats would suggest that it does. But but I think he's fascinating in a rotation full of high level arms. This one's gonna be interesting. The Philadelphia Phillies not much going on here. Yeah. Not a whole lot to pay attention to you in twenty nineteen with the Phillies. We can move it right along to a team. That is interesting. The marlins. I feel like if if we're talking about the Phillies all three of us could pick something different. We're going to leave something off the table that should be talked about which. Yeah. Your. Let's switch up the order. Jay, go first, Nick Panetta. Okay. So I didn't take the low food. I guess, but we all free probably tried to do the same thing as well. I mean, we've talked plenty about Harper. Everybody knows JT Muto's good, whatever. Nick Pavetti to me. He's the most fascinating guy in the rotation because we know Aaron Nola is a stud, and I think with all due respect it Dallas. I think Jake Arrieta has settled into the number three number four zone of his career. And I think Nick Pavetti is kind of the swing pitcher like he he could be the number two on the staff in my opinion, yet a four seven seventy are a not very impressive last year. But if you look at his fifth it dropped from four eight seven two three eight zero which is not only much better. But obviously huge gap between that and Ziara. He raised his K rate and lowered his walk rate, which is a desirable combo to do. And if you look at his overall strikeout rate it was the thirteenth. Care rate for any qualified starter in baseball last year, yet a better strikeout rate than Aaron Nola and a better strikeout rate than Corey kluber to give you some perspective. So there there's like he's an unfinished product, but the pieces are there for him to develop into, you know, maybe like a lot of people clamor for them to sign. Dow kaikal he could be kind of like the number two number three that Kyko would have provided and he's already in house. I'm fascinated to see what his looks like. I know that when we when we came up on the Phillies, if you're Phillies fan you like all right talk to me about some of these new guys that are coming in talk about a guy that was there last year. Skains? Oh, yeah. The secto stinger going to talk about race Hoskins because I think that we still haven't seen how good this guy can be. I think now like if you sort of look at the middle of that order you got Bryce Harper hitting third. You have Hoskins hitting fourth JT hitting fifth behind him. That is a meaty middle of the orders. So he's got protection behind them. He's got Harper in front of him. What do you thirty forty doubles last year? Thirty five homers around there. Have we seen the best of Reese Hoskins? No, we have not. And does having guys like Bryce Harper in JT real Mutoko Eiffel tower in him in the middle of the Phillies. Batting order does that make him does that put him in a better position to have that breakout? Sees I mean, it's like you can talk about breakout season is his major league debut was a breakout. I mean, he was hitting home runs at a historic pace. So now, if we changed the entire dynamic of this Phillies lineup are we in a prime position to see a monster season from Reese Hoskins think the answer that question is. Yes, I like the answer to that question. Love it kids. A fucking stud start I have to go a little different route here, you guys have touched on some some just absolute some, no doubt. There's these guys are going to be great. I believe this individual paired with some other individuals that were added to the stale near in the in the bullpen. I'm talking about sir rant than eight Dominquez. That's what I'm talking about. Jay. Do that. That guy was so good for my fantasy teams last year. He's just he's disgusting. These disgusting. David robertson. We know what he can do Sarangani Dominquez is gonna is gonna be a big part of what David Robertson can this bull pin? Specifically is going to be a big part of what the Philadelphia Phillies can do for reasons that Jay mentioned because you've got Nick Pavetti sort of circling the lagging on rotation slots in terms of bumping up ahead of an area. Who as you said Jay is settling into that back in mid back in rotation. Sort of presence been Alaska's we're gonna see how he bounces back or not bounce back. But fuck the do got smoked in the arm by the by the liner. So. This rotation has got some as has definitely got some fire to it. I think that when it doesn't that Bo pit is going to be called on is going to be relied upon guys like Morgan Ray Rama's, but Sarangani Dominquez trying to think if I wrote anything down on him. Yeah. Eleven and a half k per nine sub one whip nine three one whip last year over three to one k to walk. If dating seventy four punches he keeps the ball on the art as well in the crackerjack that is. That is what is that citizens Bank? Or whatever the hell it's called. What's a Phillies? Join called says this Bank citizens Bank park beautiful park. It is never been homers four homers. So that's a guy that I that I pay attention to he's filthy, and he's a pivotal. He's in a pivotal role in that Bokan. Okay. That's. That's the Phillies still left a lot on the table there. No mention of Andrew mccutchen probably gonna be the lead off hitter over there. The Mets the Mets Dallas. Why don't you start? Oh, meet the Mets step. Okay. What's going on at first base with the New York Mets the kid who's have a hell of a spring Pete Alonzo? But they got dominant Brown has well, excuse me. Dumb at Smith Smith. Sorry. Take a look at these numbers here. Dominic Smith over three hundred thirty two plate appearances at the big league level is slash line is to ten to fifty nine four zero six with a sixty five o PS fourteen homers. Ninety six punch outs. Eighteen walks last year and three Pete Alonzo slashed to eighty five three ninety five five seventy nine for collective opium of nine seventy five. Between two and three eight thirty six home runs. I just end they're both young. They're both young guys. So I'm just interested. This isn't a I think one guy's better than the other necessarily. I guess I'm just interested because the Mets I'm tired of talking about the puck and Mets pitching staff. Zach wheelers had agreed spring. He's throwing the ball. Well, he had a great year last year. Like, I love to see what this. What this this situation on volts or how the situation unfolds? Michael conforto. Love it. Michael Conforto last year. I want to say when we did the previews for last year. I want to say I talked about Conforto. Maybe taking a next step. And then obviously, there's the injury circumstances. We didn't even know if he was going to be able to come back pretty serious stuff injury wise with Conforto, but we are two years removed from Conforto playing in one hundred nine games four hundred forty plate appearances a nine thirty nine Opie s in all star selection in two thousand seventeen obviously last year went the way that it went. I think we can sort of pinpoint injury. As a main reason, why would love love love to see a bounce back season from Conforto because he is that good. And if he's one hundred percent healthy. There's no reason to believe why we can't see another north of nine hundred season from confer. Although he should be. Now, the David Wright has has written off into the sunset. No reason. Why kid for can't be the new face of that Mets franchise? I agree, man. I think he's the best. I think him being the best offensive player on that team is they're formula for success. And to your point about the nature of last season. Two fifteen three thirty nine three sixty slash line through July eleventh to seventy two three sixty five thirty seven over his final three hundred eight plate appearances. So I think there's a lot of reason for MS and there he was my pick to hell. Yeah. That couple starting nine guys just lining the Marlins. The fuck in Marlins are we are we is let me just before I can pick something. But before we sort of getting to that is is there anyone here on this panel. Who is even mildly enthused about something that's going to be going on in Miami this year don't fake it. Be honest. Yes, I am. If Curtis Granderson can stick around or is sticking around. I wanna see the impact that he has on Lewis Brinson given literally going to be leading off this year who Curtis Granderson. I would imagine he would be leading off for the Marlins why? Because Lewis Brinson is is I mean, look, the dudes athlete, and I think I think that is at least a storyline to pay attention to if you're a Marlins fan because you're going to get a taste of Granderson as a player, you're going to get a taste and sure whatever on the backside of his career, but the human being that is Grandy is a treat, and it's an honor to be around. So how can he help shape? Lewis Brinson as a player that's about it. That's what I mean. For me for me. I'll follow that up naturally because my guy was Lewis Brinson one ninety nine to forty three thirty eight in four hundred and six plate appearances list that last few that came with a really crisp one hundred twenty two seventeen strikeout-to-walk ratio. This is a guy with an eight forty eight oh PS over twenty four hundred plate appearances in the minor leagues. And we I think we can all intellectually understand why the Stanton trade happened for the Marlins to get rid of all that money. But the reason the yellow the reason the yelich trade happened was because they wanted to infuse their team nominally with young assets that were controllable they need Lewis Brinson to pan out to justify the Christian yelich trade, especially now that he's coming off and MVP, and obviously there's a lot of physical tools with Brinson and a strong defensive center fielder. So you don't even need him to break out offense to a huge degree. But they need to take a significant step from what he did last year. He's just gotta be better than this. There's only one player in baseball. All who had a lower waited runs created plus. Tuck. Was fifty six. Chris davis. That was Chris Davis. So. That's that goes for me. I'm gonna I'm curious to see what team Starling Castro straighted into. There's going to be a team that at some point needs a middle. Infielder, Starling Castro is probably your guy. So I'm I'm really looking forward to seeing what team wants Starling Castro to save him from the grips of the Miami Marlins. Who does the stop say sterling Castro ins backup in Anaheim angels uniform? That would be super exciting. Hey, Dallas filming right now. Why don't you the grounds crew would love to know what the good folks over at lumber Lindor doing for baseball fans out there? Some pretty unique gifts that we've received. Actually, it's displayed right in front of my not to brag seventy five inch TV. That's on my wall. 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But what is it like now having played for the Tampa Bay rays, and we all know, what what you know, what it might be like raise. What's it like to play for the fan base that shows? I would say what is my second interview session. Whatever you wanna call it with the borstal crew. And you guys are off to a better star. Because Portnoy called it the Tampa Bay Devil Rays. He doesn't over. Yeah. But did you score was if you didn't do a decimal point if you don't like a seven that's risk? Oh, no. I get with this. I pretty sure give six point nine. Like, I I rated it really high. What she was just wearing. Me for that. It was pretty pizza, and he actually gave it I think pretty good review too. But yeah, I think I gave it anyways. Yeah. We're so word you guys are off to better start. It's it's great, man. Like Tito, San Francisco's obviously completely completely different than than Tampa in pretty much every aspect big city big faster pace outdoor ball. Or like anything? You can name is just different buffet Headley Hagley at beta bay, but it was fun. Last year was tough. You know that year was cut in half basically with a broken hand. Just at that point. It was like I felt like I was getting my feet underneath me. And then I you know offered a month and a half. But this year like I will say I thought I was going to be comfortable coming into spring last year off move live here, you know, those going to be easy, and it was a lot. So for the next decade. So this year's like a lot like nobody wants to talk to me. Now, like, I'm cool. I really don't have media care. You know, it's like not that. They don't care. They don't wanna talk to you every day. They don't ask me how you know. It was touch the dirt as a giant first time, whatever. So it's big. What was that? Like because there's a lot of history. I grew up grew up in California grove Stockton grew giants fan. So I appreciate the history of the game the ballpark and all that should candlestick to AT and T Pat Bill out its four core own whatever the hell you, but you see some of those greats walking around because you yourself when we look at the Tampa raised him the reason we look at that roster. The history, you are verbally entrenched in the history and the start of of that organization. Transition hop about this bail over here on the west side. And now you've got folks like Willie Mack that guys like we'll just the list. Barry list goes on and on. What was that like kind of jumping into that kind of? It's it's cool. It's it's it's really cool. I mean, you know guts like you said varies at the park quite a bit of Willie Mack was around a lot last year and Willie Mae. As they're pretty much on a daily basis to and so you got guys like that will Clark said coming and going, and it's completely different vitamin, you know, I'm definitely proud of everything that I did in in Tampa. But you know, you're talking about twenty, you know, twenty two year, whatever, you know, twenty. Twenty two year history. And I was there for almost half of you know, to go to place where you know, got one of the original teams that you know, it's been around for a hundred years. And so it's it's definitely there's a different field the clubhouse. There's different Bora. Like, it's you know, stuff that friend shake did you shake not a Sabang Garner's hand BUSTER, Posey's hand were they like still sort of that back a little I feel like unless you like it. I don't know. Let's use like a lady to you. Baby doesn't give you that day. He's not that way. He's not that way at all. But he like yell site will kind of has push this big stored just farm like looking at fuck chopped retreat. And he probably will like if you you know, you don't wanna cross that guys out on that. But no, he he's, you know, he's a he curates that image. Really? Well, sure. And it's you know, I think it's a it's a part. Him like it's his what he does. And it's really what works for him. So he's going to be around man super competitive. Like, these guys, you know, they've had a ton of success. They've really done something that, you know, the last thing to do was really probably the, you know, the nineties Janke ninety thousand Yankees, and and, you know, their dominance that that they've shown is he's a huge part of Basra's huge part of it like those cool coming in, you know, being with those guys for the first year. Did you know that Madison Bumgarner girlfriend made mess Bumgarner? I heard that is real pretty sure real probably not going to be the one to ask. Know, I'm not bringing that up. Yeah. Care, though. So you're talking about the history, you know, talking about the giants in the raise and say say the giants or the World Series this year, and they would have guys like Willie McCovey a back door to first pitch vary bonds come back to throw the first before World Series two thousand eight when they're going to the wealth for all time race games today as it. You say you're an all time. Great ray. You mean like two other nineteen like they went to the World Series during the two when you were in the world. You're not gonna take real balls, which we. I can't even like we have. Getting it's too. Obviously feels like it was. We'll talk in rocky. No, he's on the team. But yeah, it was like. I mean that time period of mind. So like it went so fast and rig years. Like, I do anything like tend to forget a lot of it because you're like pretty focused like internal, you know, it's it's tough to like get like extra linked to really like so everything in when you're just trying to like get yourself in the place where you compete every day, and as a rookie man, you're just trying to grind your off till I get, you know, just a plate well that it's it's really tough to like so Paul in. So every time I see Videotime time. Well, we can totally understand you wanting to bottle up those memories in bottle up those feelings which huddle leads me to this point here. Folks, a lumber and cope I've been nice enough to provide our man longoria with a signature series lovling bug. I showed you earlier they put your focus mode. If you're on a Moke is own buck. Remember that books. If you're looking to get this taken care of yourselves. They are completely sealed on the inside and out making them. 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Get your seizure today. So I saw you there. You're admiring your signature when did you start going from like learning cursive to this is going to autograph someday? When did you know that that was an early early early straight Warren? I think the first time I actually signed a baseball or like signed anything was probably played in a cave league. When I was. Julia chattel as it was awesome. We'll probably one of the best summer I've ever had Beijing via the first time while somebody really like wants smiled aggressor. I what better serving what it looks like I would back now like that's a holder signature. That's it's not that old. But this I mean, this is probably you know, three or four years old every year finally presented signature of by the crafts. It's pro. I mean, yeah line is Salat just was terrible. But I mean, you know, there's gotta sign so many balls than like after why just got tired of looking at like a really shitty autograph. Yeah. And I was like, oh, maybe I should just sit down and just practice writing it out what I wanted to look like, so so I gotta ask you this. Because there's some people think about. Stop and sign autographs do guys don't I picking up twenty cents pride in your pavement ship people put this on a mantle maybe next to a crib of of some sorts. They're gonna want to look nice. You've taken note of that. So is there anything to like, you know, what you pick and choose when you guys can sign on schedule type, you guys are aid that should do. But there's also a sense of pride behind this. You're not just going to slap some shit up for fifty people in a row and booby. Yeah. I mean, I the main the main thing for me with the autograph is I wanted people to be able to read in joy like as as a kid like I probably had a couple of autographs degree autographs back. I don't even remember who that new was a. Because if you don't read a number on, it, you don't really know, you know, so I at least wanted to eat in the L and some of you know, few other letters to be semi legible. So they all year long. Got to be a long you want to take a trip down memory lane right now. Yeah. I don't know what you're heavy sign about this for me. I love. Hasn't shown me. What's the pop up? So. Yeah, I. We don't have any space literally nights of my life gave one sixty two and twenty seven. I was in Baltimore. You're in Tampa. We're gonna pull up the video, and we're gonna we're gonna relive this together. Because just wasn't a tiled long night. Yes. It was. All right. All right. I'll let you control here. I think the scenario was the Red Sox one of the rage wonder you one. Yes. Yeah. He'll share grants. Shared wrestling to expand turns around seventy seven. And this game is thinking about this game. Is it didn't meet gate. No they were already in. And so that's the that's the off. Thing that might think helped us big us guys out really didn't really go to their horses like late in the game. I mean, they still he still played it pretty straight. Like, it wasn't like just cable. They weren't send. She'll kid. I'm sure that they should get. What to? Jay hardy dropping tick. Shaven meeting. Kimball up news rerun take thirty the scores. Three in the eighth Longo step. So and drops dick who side free. Ron Johnson brings with in one. Yes. Story. There is a story after. But. Victory. I won't say the guy the guy was, but we had a guy like basically fully cats in the locker like he's ready to go home like in the sixth inning. You know? And he was like saying bide every black. You know? Thank you like what a great year. You know? It's been been also our trainers eight man, you gotta get your arm exercise like we're gonna win this game. And it's like come on. You know, we're down we're down. We're down five. Yeah. Yeah. Obviously ending. But yeah. Three ships six point. Six thinking if that point we got this where within straightness interest that we mean, we have a lot of. We had a lot going for us. Right. I mean, and there were some people that had left the stadium of by and large. I mean, it felt like a good majority of the people are still there. So when we started like client back, including back it just yeah. Felt like there was a lot of momentum. At this point, just like. Have those went into pitch rotors? Yeah. But putting defense your owner three. Jerod bottle hundred nine. A year last game of the year three to Red Sox to two strikes, and and there's a double in the gap. Now, we get a tiger. And that was like, I don't even know what I'm still fucking. He had nothing to gain from the no Buck Showalter is the heaviest miniature that history of. Indeed proffered you have to catch that a lazy ass Wally pumped grove home ballgame over so now, so so they're celebrating like they just won the World Series. They will probably like sixty seven games out of first place at that point. We turn. Your point is this is like a historic night in the Red Sox. That's the last appearance of the last time. Tim Wakefield Jason Varitek all those guys. They're Red Sox career. You ended the Red Sox? Chris. It's pretty good grew today. Tito's last last. Decorate your deck with that happens. You guys don't building the CEO's. Last night is Red Sox you here. You're touching. Blood out of that. Buddy. He'll just have your second the game. You hit a crucial crucial ball to bring did one earlier in the eighth inning two. And now here you are here in pulled a hand, stay in soy. I didn't think I don't know that I had hit that gave me. I don't remember what I did. But I I was like hopefully to that overture three coming into that that second last AB eighth been over three point. And you know, you're not like to this. We're getting smashed. I haven't got it here. Right. You know, like it's all about the at this point. And so you're gonna do something big. Or are you thinking your head like guy really out one-shot your call? I was like, I'm I'm like, I don't wanna be the guy get out like just get hit over like, I'm ready to just get broken leader. And same thing. Do you remember basis? Like what I've watched them. Like, I try to think back like, hey, what was like? What was like? Thank you. I was I felt like I was running so fast to get home via it was. I mean, if sick sick party after to too. Two was actually your that. I met my wife. So she was in town for that. What she was future wife we been kinda dating for like most of the year. So she was in town better out a bunch of girlfriends. It was a pretty good night. It's called with on. She saw the show. Done done. I mean, when you think back on your career to this point was that the number one moment for you. I mean, probably personally like selfishly. I mean. Yeah, it was it was. Obviously a huge moment for me played in the World Series is the I mean do the game seven at home against the Red Sox in two thousand eight was sick, right. Try got I got hit up LeicesteR that game to tie the game or go ahead late use pitching, Jim. I think it was one to one or you know, whatever it was. But like that was like emotionally looked tougher than two thousand eleven because we we were up and then we've lost that game five at Boston that we were up four or five row news, seventy nothing seven. Yeah. We just. Yeah. So that was like we're getting ready to go the World Series now. Now, we just lost the game. We like, you know, I'm thinking back to like when the Red Sox came back from three nothing, you know, won the World Series. I'm like damn this is not the police. You wanted to do not want to do that in Fenway park. Because everybody's just going berserk. And like the next day. You know, we played another game there. I think and we went back for game seven lost the next game. What do you think thinking early? We can win this game. But like all the momentum is on their side. So that twin nineteen was crazy play the World Series. I think the memories for like his probably over all of this. What we're not quite to the offramp yet off of memory lane about one exit away. I'm gonna go grab a piece of paper. And I just wanna say shit ever. I just wanna say the next file. No, I forgot I'm not terribly proud. This is five. Brought to how this is gonna unfold here. I just there's some things I've got a ton of respect for us player. Man. I having been compete against you things that I always I will remember, luckily, we have the internet remembers things that might might not always have a piece of paper because we've been talking about big hits that you've gotten throughout your air this inches literally every day. But you know, what I'm gonna let it do it. Because I mean, how many how many has been? I don't know that you know, what we're talking about. So we're number was your tell us. That's what's he got a personal calendar. So she's souls just something we found it was will lame guy. Who's at a local? That's not even the same guy. Right. Local store here that flat. Even you your name gonna be able to tell your kids. That's you. That's looking out. There was a time in the game of Longo here. And it's mother's day. Kind enough to actually put the score card on the back of this. And I want you to take notice longoria hitting plead up out of the at the time the most powerful offense of gauntlet in baseball at the time that you're so it's the fifth inning Longo. If you can't I'm not a Senate, Kate. Plus, it's a punching go down swinging swinging. Get you. Here is you'll snack. The numbers you remember numbers of yourself. Okay. All right. I did. And. If you know how many set once you have. Not a lot. I do want to get one of that. Healing. Wanna get you? What you have what sack hit for one sec bunt before they do. You know, how many? Facing? More than sack loans, but you're actually talk you have tied one. Which leads me back to that in the fifth inning. Because I get asked obviously wouldn't all tried to bust. Ever the game was close. Yes. Absolutely. We teaching you go back to the game was 'cause I do 'cause I've been asked about this. Honestly, that's the only reason I find it even brought this up is because for nothing. So you nothing threat you square to bunt that I remember laughing because I'm thinking what the phone really right out. Like, why don't you want? You target. I was having a decent. But uh. So they asked me like when do you realize when do you whatever? And I'm like what nothing and you can attest. This nothing was any different that day than anytime. I'd base your prime. But I was on the sun with brighter, see nature cheered told up connected with earth until you for. Good that they've really perfect. But for the good swing on a ball the whole game. I would have been I wouldn't be furious. And here's why not because of the bunt and unwritten rule and all that. No, not not at all. Like, I guy who believes competitive wise, the best time to step on a neck is win his down like going. That's the easiest that's the best way to put you on your misery here to fucking help you alone. So, but you swear peaking this. I did too. Here. We are what would have happened like in your head. If you get the down because I know I would've thought I would've been I would've been okay, it's fucking fitting. There was a fifth. Never thought it just you know, I never thought of plead game up into that. I never seen the ninth inning of get to that point. So no fucking idea what to expect. But let's say you get that bugged down. Just eating change as far as yes. Yes. Like do yet. I mean, I mean you've had hit somebody s yet your career whatever. I mean there is like especially close game. Like, there is a significant change in mind said with offense when you get your first thing, you know, what I mean like there's so what we're star had hit. I hit. I that. So you don't think it? All right. Well, we're down three right here. Like, I'm leading off. Like, nobody's putting swing ball. Like, I'm trying to get on, you know, lead off and get something going. But I'm just like I think if we haven't got a hidden six innings, and it's a close game. And somebody finally gets a hit like you're like, all right? Well, we can we can go. Now, you know. But when you go up there Nobis gotta hit in in Nobis putting swing all. You're you're a lot more tense chirp. You know? I just wanted to make sure I got a question for you. But Dallas for ask question. But you your most sick sick sick? What number was somebody? There's been twenty twenty three hundred pretty good during the perfect was their point during the perfect gamer after the perfect game. Where you or anyone else publishers like, I can't believe that fucking that asshole. Because he wasn't actually good. Back. Well. Or actually I actually fake. At the. I can't remember I we got perfect game by Mark Burleigh to gay and I don't even a third one. But it was a no hitter. I think at the time I at the time of the career what I don't remember what you're his wasn't what you know. Here's I think his was the year before like. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I know because we already been perfect by him. So I was like oh early probably. Shoot. Consider. Yeah. I mean, no like, I mean just had a great day this fucking face and be like this asshole through perfect game against us. But the strong Goater play. Rescuer the arm to their believed it four Bill. That's very. I I just wanted to I wanted to take you back down that that little if it was if it was like a one time thing for me out have been pissed, but I'm like already like perfect gave here is not a big deal. I got to be like a trivia question later. I mean, I've been a part of three I've gotten perfect three times was he looks Felix. Oh shit douse rating and more early and no hit twice as they don't part of one no hitter cigars at through. No hitter through the no we got no hit by Edwin Jackson hundred forty and we got hit by somebody else to. I got a Basit break-up Brennan Moro's, no hitter. It two strikes to outs nights. Rondo. Yes. That was. Was she got hit won't play by somebody else to. I mean, like, what's it gonna sation like in fucking it? Is it just the mentality of the losses a loss? Yeah. Yeah. I mean, again, it's embarrassing. It's embarrassing as an offense. But then again, I mean. It only happens every so often, and like what a lot of things have to happen, right? Like the day that we got perfect game by future end is he was unbelievable flake. She was just like his stuff was just better than you know, like Dallas game. Like, he he pitched, you know, like he was he was here here. He executed all of his symphony more early. You know, like I felt like on that day. He was really good on Felix's day. He was just special, you know, like he could have gone out there and thrown all of his pitches around the plate and still nobody would have hit the oh his stuff was. So elect glad you said that because there is a massive difference. And I don't like it all I don't like to talk about this shit because I know my place, and I know that when you face it. I'm glad you said that because a guy like Felix, I believe that kind of stuff is reserved for it even Burley the precision, talking surgical type execution tonight. Who's you know, maybe has an idea these are fucking search. It's felix. That's just a that's just. So I got a question for you that I I've been curious for why Britain invited to a couple of times. But the contract that you signed with Tampa one of the most team friendly deals of all time the first one yet. Yes. Yeah. Do you look back at that? Because obviously what you're doing. I want the security. Do you back at that? And say if I just roll the dice guy could've done dull that. You don't. I don't I mean, again, I son the second contract, and I got paid when I thought it was worth you that point. So I can't really can't really life. If if I never signed that same contract, maybe have a different answer put at the same time. You know, anything can happen, man. Like, that's what that's what I was looking at was if like into the end of this contract in everything goes, right? I'm gonna get another one. You know, if I get to the end of this contract and nothing goes, right? Then I'm going to be forty five million dollars richer, and I'll have nine years in the big leagues. You know what I mean? So there was a win win in that, you know, twenty two year old brain of mine that's time basically never played a day in the big leagues. And and I kept telling myself you're after year, like if I perform I will get another contract at some point. I was just trying to like outplay my contract every year, then so fucking refreshing to hear and I'm glad that you're able to say that because I hate the. Idea. And I hate the notion I balk at daily when I hear, oh, you're not what are your free to bet on yourself or you're not worried about the other guys who are coming behind you trying to solidify secure their bag as well. It's like look man you ever send the perspective one of securing the bag for the family, and my family's future to like, you know, retail right now, this is the first time we really sat on chop it up like this. But you're dude who look you pay me. And now, I can go to work. Yeah. Not pay me in Alec rest on my laurels. You pay me now like build and create the Evan longoria. Who's gonna get breaded chicken titties next? Yes. So I didn't I was like the the. You know, and some guys some guys need that motivation. Right. Like guys wanna play year. Let some guys want to. I mean, everybody wants a term deal. Let's not, you know, get away from that fact, brought some guys you don't want to have that two or three years of arbitration to get two free agency because they want that to drive them to get there. And they wanna see what they can get for me. It wasn't going to change the way. I played the game. It wasn't gonna change my perspective. But I I'm always been like, I'm a little more risky now. But as as a young guy like never had money anything, you know. So I was like offer me like polish one taking right? Oh, so. And I just figured out down the line. If I play will be good who's your favorite team? Probably air Kinski. I heard include but for cliff. Uncle podcasts here. Oh, yeah. They was big Brown. I. Can brown. Do you will? So here we had cliff Lloyd on podcast before we asked him. Give us like Ricky Henderson story. Why don't you give us a clue? Again that year man might rookie year. Like, I was like probably doing way too much partying and like. Enjoying. That's the big league. To remember half the. A lot of it was with cliff man, I hung out with seriously. Like, those guys taught me, you know, they they taught me how to respect the game. They taught me how to like respect the clubhouse guys and everybody around. And and and they were really really good veteran leaders, and they embrace my friends too. I remember like, you know, I don't remember the whole story. But I would even if I did I wouldn't tell you the whole story. I I remember, you know, I had a couple of buddies in town, and we had a Dagan the next day in cliff knew wasn't playing we were out pretty late. And I point buddies like wanted to stay out, you know, and and they stayed with cliff cliff like took care of them to show them, you know, took him out whatever like let him stay at his house. And like that was for me like all right this school. You know, like he's on there. Like, he's gonna take care of my voice. And and it was awesome. And that's the kind of player, and I know this, and you go this, and I'll say it because maybe you don't need to say, that's the kind of guy. That's getting ran the fuck out of the game. Yeah. Yeah. And that is the impact that dude has in the clubhouse the officers don't even want to be Kim to try to quantify it. They don't even want to begin to try to understand what that dude could do for a young guy. Little wet behind the ears guy named Evan longoria. His rookie year kid out. Look young guys at that point the type like they need so much to our to our date. They've been so much to our game. And they're just being passed over and sent out to pasture tied up in the back. Just don't wanna see I hate soi one. It's tough. When guys can still play the game at high love real like there because there's a lot of guys that are still like, you know, in their in their window to be able to play big bubble. Enter also really teammates that could benefit a team. But but at the same time when guys like, you know, Indra free minutes is really good at this. There's there's a lot of you know, there there's a few GM's at really good at like understanding the value those guys that maybe they don't want. You know, you know, it's thirty five thirty six thirty seven thirty eight year old guy that like understands he's done playing or like, you know, just whatever for whatever reason he's not the gaming board. But they're really good f-. Reading those guys into the staff and. Not like if you're not gonna pay guys to play on the team because you don't feel that they're, you know, they're they're just past their prime their old run over like the numbers still say that that they can play anymore at least half those guys around, you know, because if you go to fall light. Just analytics side being. And again, I'm not you know, you can sail he won about it. I'm not here to bash it because I think some of the information is good for sure I think some of it also doesn't, you know, skew in the in the in the right direction as far as clubhouse chemistry and stuff like that. So yeah, just having those guys around on staff is is really beneficial as well. I'm at trust and a huge. I am numbers. I pay attention to inst- because I have the stuff all of you, whatever just think that you know, what today might not Saks gonna take care of this. Who would not do that? So I was looking for every ended up top of the way the game is changing play a little game. Fuck Mary kill with the actually. We've got the universal D H. Three better biddable. And the pitch clock. Gotta fuck Mary killed. Logically. I would I would probably like to. Makes sense. I would probably like to fuck. The universal is for year June. Psyches? That's like you married university million universal eight Trevor this really if you okay, we'll then I would marry the university because I think I think it's a good thing. You know, I think that you know, it's one of the keys to attracting a younger generation. Maybe it's not the whole peace. But I think it will. You know, it's like you only hear the traditionalist chime on that. But then the younger generation, they don't care to chime on it because they don't they're not as focused on the rules of the game yet, you know. But so I think it would be a good thing. You know what I mean? Like, you got there's a lot of people are like hat's. How would you want that? We love the way the game. I get it. But you also want see billion years and homers and like all that. So that would be that some little you would Bank like you can do it. Yeah. I just heard the the three better minimum would be the the fuck, I guess because I. I think that it would be super beneficial for hitters, and so that's why skew that we're, but and you know, I mean, if you if you're left handed reliever, and you've got you know, to let these a righty, but the left is is are the right? He is the guy that you're worried about and you gotta bring those left lefties in that guy like as a right hander. I'm standing between those guys like I'm looking towards that option to that guy. So that's that's that's why. And I think it, you know, so that's what you all by hand. Yeah. I mean, they're everybody would find a way to get around. And then what was what was the other one vendor killing the kitchen? Yeah. Yeah, killing I mean, listen everybody when you go to a game, you know lately. Like, I don't go to a hockey game or basketball game, whatever. And then I'm like looking at my watch mannequin, you know, this game's over two hours. Like, I I need to get out of here. You know, like I go to a game to watch a game. Like, however long it is and. And like and like also nobody's like holding you in your seat. Right. Like you come to the game. You say as long as you want. Then you lied juice shit. Yeah. I mean, so I just don't in part of my argument on that is a lot of the gate. A lot of the reason that the game has gotten longer it's because of television. You know, that's a simple fact like have ads we have you know there. There's breaks specifically for that. Have you been at the dish? Where the entire is telling the ready yet hold on looking at his watch, whatever. So. But yeah, I mean the the pitch clock. I think again. We would have you know, if we had to you guys find a way to to what it vice would twenty nineteen. Evan longoria, gifted two thousand eight. Time. You know, I enjoyed my time as a rookie. But yeah, I always like, it's, you know, it's it's hard like to to talk to young guys now. And like, of course, I'm gonna tell them party every night, you know, like that's ever do that. But I mean, I so much fun. My rookie year that life. You don't want to get you get one of those man like not even just from like a party perspective from like a passing baseball. No, no. I mean, I always like, I'm a big like routine guy, you know. So like, that's what his key and those guys like Erick really helped me with with my routine. And so, you know, it guide like I always feel guys like latch onto somebody man. Like, if you whoever it is that you like what you know, you like followed in, you know, when you're in the minor leagues coming up, whoever it is that you want to be like or you see yourself turning into or whatever like latch onto that guy. See what he does. You know, if that guy's me like, hey, I'm here to help you, you know, like, all do whatever whatever I need to do to help you get to where you want to be so. Yeah. Just just and and, you know, don't talk too much. Just listen, I did a lot of listening and a lot of watching and. Yeah. And that's that's. Now this the final season for Bruce Bochy. What's it like to have gotten to play for both? Joe madden. Bruce Bochy to the best managers in the game. It's it's it's a lot different trust your styles. Van pretty pretty drastic difference is invoked Boches will get only played for one year so far. So it's it's not like I say easy bowl or like, he's chains or whatever. But in this is not a knock on on any of the other two managers. I play for both. You bet. He is really really good game. Play really good in game. I I try to sit there sometimes in like fake along with the situation and like. Before like if I'm in the field. You know, what I'm like, oh, we should have like this guy ready, or like, you know, look who's coming up like guys are already the guy's house. Thinking are already getting read, you know, like the guys that like should potentially be pitching in certain situations. Like, they're already like down there with their home at like ready to go, you know. So he's he's, you know, just master when it comes to like that that sort of thing Joe, Joe is amazing alike. Rallying the dudes like players manager. We're stays out of the way Joe tries to like incorporate the group that's as much as he can't even clubhouse. So. You know, there's no one answered who's who's better just to? Yeah. Yeah. Take me through the James shields. Cocoa. Chris crawl your beverage. You don't even remember what it was about. I think there's like a hard science. I conveys someone got hit. And then it was just. Yeah. That's like the old school baseball hat. I don't think that any. I saw CoCo charging way. Honestly, I think like we just thought like side note. Coco is a multiple time boxer yet gold glove. That's why just like Edward ended up thirteenth, bro. I just on that situations. Like, all right. We'll it, you know, sometimes it's like understood like he's getting hit whatever like new. So nobody was like all right? Like as soon as nobody was ready to go to the mountain like sometimes when you know like it's gonna happen. Like, you are already like creeping in just like looks like he's ready to go with so like under control that like, you know, he kind of took that like sidestep, and then he liked to off and nobody even saw coming. He said, I'm not trying to tap. I had to sell yet selling sold the two is the in a situation like that. When when it's an eye for an eye in no disrespect to kogo. I love cocoa. But you usually get the best guy. Go wasn't the best guy. So for him. It was I hear the game or something or like sitter the second inning or that. Yeah. For him to to make that decision right then and there already had to make. I think something might have happened where like he likes spike, someone that he wanted heart at second base. It was it was it was him. It was related to think. So. Yeah, I think it was I think he'd already been hit before. Discuss. Yeah. Probably. Oh, he met him for well just on on the field. Really not like never talk to. We'll be spending time with this one question that we asked everyone of our guest is if you could jump in hot tub time machine and take yourself back to any boat in baseball history and fair witness. What would it be it? Why feel like we gotta listen like five or six games that you probably don't wanna go to wait, you of my career any any like, you go back to like, you know, you or sitting next to Abner when he's like, hey, we think about this baseball. Man. I feel like one of the most. What most like? Maybe I could start seeing awfully punishable Neil. Just that I think would be cool. But. Over here saying it's insane. Bush. Angels of interior group. Easier for us to get angel stadium for where I grew up. So. I mean, probably like. Like, I feel like I'm gonna get one answer. That's. You got to thrill belter. No. I mean, I was loved to see like the play. I think that you know, any any game. The for part took it would be would be amazing. I think like probably win Hank. Aaron broke the home run record. You'll bring for shirt, Babe Ruth home run record. Any people run on the field. Like that throws legs close lighting taught house or you can catch the ball. Yeah. That would be that'd be pretty pretty cool seat. Four. I mean shoot. When freaking coward junior broke the player you go. There you go. You know hired. I feel like those are the was twenty to fifty six or something that was two six three two. Stafford she went three one to drop the banner. So I feel like there's like like small group of games that like. Why don't think will ever see again? Like, I don't think we'll ever see that happen again. Like, I don't think we'll ever see shy play that game though. I don't think we'll ever see. I mean. And again, you know, you got some guys maybe on pace, but the pay like the game is so different now that I don't ever I think that anybody will ever break Pete Rose his record. No, you know. So that game when he wrote that record. I think trans forever. I don't I don't think. Yeah. The fifty six gaming nobody's break. You he faced gown. So so I don't know if you know this I believe, hey, believe Jody faced. Sixty seven pitchers during that fifty six minutes during phase three hundred something just ridiculous. It was double digit pitchers that he faced as opposed to what you got. Another fun. Fact now told me Ted Williams his batting average was higher over that span of dates Jody's was over fifty six give any say. Throw that out there say twenty. Did you take anyone actually hit that red seat filler? Ever stood up. Like, I try to I try to justify that with people like I've been out there. And then I'm like, well, maybe if they only had like seats right here in right here, and they just literally had a wind tunnel light hit it. Right. Rightly see it. It went it. Somehow like got catapulted out. It's six hundred people it is it is literally six hundred feet away. It's a shot. All right. Evan longoria. Thank you so much coming on best of luck to you this season, and we should defecate you ought against. Yeah. For sure Jake. You have with them. Big thanks to Evan longoria. Being part of the spikes up tour taking a trip down memory lane game one sixty two that was gonna stink for a long time. I have fought up. Sure. You did. I'm sure you did. But that game one sixty two trip down memory lane with Emma longoria that is on the starting nine YouTube page. So I think we have like a screen in screen type deal where you can see what we're looking at as we're looking at it. So definitely check that out. A search starting nine on YouTube that video will be there. The entire interview will be there as well. As every other interview that we've released thus far, but Dallas this is gonna be a five thirty up for me tomorrow. So it's kinda understandable of I'm gonna wake up tired. But normally I don't wanna wake up tired. I'm tired of waking up tired. You. Should you should be tired? Awaking tired. I got some got some for that. Do you? I do what my natural CBD. Oh, hell, yeah. Yeah. You tired of waking up tired tired of being in? I know your body aches stirred, my body body is weary every shelter. Bow river works all goddamn day long. So my natural CD has clearly been the answer the remedy shits legal in all fifty states folks him based CD is the new wonder supplement being used by everybody across the globe office warriors. Cubicle. Monkeys warriors of all types. Just treat stressing Zayed's pain, insomnia or for ins at my natural CBD dot com or offering a discount. 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I can either confirm nor deny that shed. You throw. I can't confirm a missile that I believe is still going. I haven't found he actually did the AL central preview. We'll start off with the defending champs who have zero chance of being knocked off in twenty nineteen the Cleveland Indians J it would be a damn shame. If we didn't start with you. You know, what I'd prefer that? You didn't actually okay come back to me. I will start with myself then. Not dallas. You know what? I'm gonna I'm gonna self-serve here a little bit. I'm interested to see what Hanley Ramirez still hasn't a tank. I am I am. I am I found it so odd that he was released in what may did not sign with another team. According to him now is his preference. And if you're Hanley Ramirez, it's like, yeah. Dude. You're still paying me what twenty million dollars twenty two million dollars? I'm just gonna take the rest of the year off just a little bit -cation. That's very Hanley. All right. I buy that. I kind of figured that. That was it. That was a swan song he's done. He doesn't wanna come back and play baseball. But he did he signed a minor league deal with the Cleveland Indians in one would imagine that he's he's gonna get some ABC's as a D H for the Cleveland Indians who could use some thump, but he's not he's not being dependent upon like, he's the guy. I mean, they still have you know, they have Lind door. They've got kipness. They've got Joe ram like they don't need him to be a middle of the order type bat, he's probably gonna hit like sixth or seventh. And I I wanna know what. Because when Hanley Ramirez has something to prove they're still they're still something in there. Like, there was definitely. So that the Red Sox didn't want that option to vest, which is a probably a main contribute to why they released him in the first place you go back and look at Hanley Ramirez April last season. He was the offense of catalyst of that team. He had a great April. He had a couple bad weeks. And then it gets released that was just the Red Sox. Like, this is our chance to release him because we don't want that option of us. I still think Hanley has some. Left in the tank interested to see what a motivated league, minimum whatever the fuck is making with Cleveland type Hanley looks like I still think that he's got something left. And I and I hope that he proves that. It's a I'm not shocked at that. But it's definitely a respectable. Take deputy respectable thing thing too key on on time out. Oh, we've got a Ken Rosenthal. Tweet. Brewers are talking to free agent closer critic pill. Yeah. Go back resume. The rotation. And it's not about what they're going to do. Because I think we all have come to expect what we've gotten out of that rotation. But because the lineup looks the way it does do we are we prepared because look the Lynn door caffeine. He's a guy who hits from both sides of the plate. So it's not like he can just favor one side of the other and work through this. So things being what they are feet to a baseball player. That's something that, you know. Hey, I open taking care of an out of the way now. So it's not something that lingers. Yup. Yup. That young outfield. I alluded to earlier in the podcast. That's something. That's something. I pay attention to like, you know, what's what's what's shortstop look like without outland door for the long haul. That's a major question is it not Jay. Yes. For the long haul. It's a massive question. I'm not so concerned about it for the the interim of than I just think they've got enough of a gap to kind of provide a little bit of cushion. But I think so in some ways, I agree and I disagree. But to your point like you look at the lineup and we've never seen the Indians closer to a stars and scrubs approach, right? Like there might be years in the past where missing door for three weeks or a month would have been almost not even worth talking about. And now, I think it's never been more of a potential issue because this lineup is incredibly reliant upon Linda or and Ramirez and like okay Carlos Santana is fine. Leonis Martinez fine. But like it falls off so incredibly quickly like if anything happens to endure Ramirez, you are much more vulnerable than you were in pre. Here's -absolutely, and you're also to Jared's point not relying upon but legitimately factoring in some sort of serviceable performance from a guy who was marinate on the beach for the entire Puckett season LeicesteR ship. I mean, I don't wanna say it tongue in cheek because somebody will take me serious. But I mean, the guy's name was starting to surface in like drug cartel shit. Right grubbers. Yeah. It was basically like some dude got pulled over that had drugs in his car and then face timed Hanley to get out of it with the cough, like Haley didn't even know. Like what the fuck? No idea. What's going on my buddy? What did that too? When you do that to me. I told you to get lost. I don't even Mike club Inder. I think we I think we know that the first three guys are aces or number twos. Or however, you want to describe them cleven was the breakout pitcher for the Indians last year. I think even more I mean Bauer was too. But like, I didn't really see Clemens you're coming in the same way. He's improved as Yara and fifth in every season that he's been a major league baseball. The big change for him has been harnessing lowering the walks. He went from twelve percent walk rate to eight percent last year while maintaining that elite strikeout rate. So I'm really interested to see like two hundred innings two hundred strikeouts. Those guys are really rare these days than Mike cleven jer. Did that last not you're not sure how many people really appreciate that? He did that. But to me, he's he's kinda gotta watch. Plus, he's got the long hair and the funky windup. Love club thing is pretty clear that the relationship that he and Bauer have insight some very friendly very healthy competition that they are both benefiting from. So that's a that's a big deal. The Minnesota Twins. I like, yeah. I mean, like there's there's some the twins are it's your sting. The twins are interesting. I feel like they're not a team. Like you have your powerhouses in the American League. There's the Astros Yankees Red Sox. We get all that. But if you look at the Minnesota Twins. I'm intrigued by some of the names that they've added, and I feel like I I'll let you guys go first, and I'll pick up what you don't because they're like I'm looking at scope on looking at Marin Gonzales, I'm looking at Nelson Cruz, like whatever you guys wanna hit on hit on it. And I'll pick up the scraps. We'll I'm looking at guys two of them who I think these guys need to take that next step. Byron Buxton is one of them. Next Keppler us the other. Those guys have got to do it. And I am big fans of both those dudes big pens. I mean Byron talking about a book, and platinum glove, folks, platinum level defender in Byron Buxton, you put that together. You can appreciate Jared. Good. Not -scuse me that would that would be disrespectful. You can appreciate eat elite level defense in centerfield specifically with a bat that at times has left a little more to be desired. I think the same can at least be said for Byron Buxton. So I got a just something something from him. And maybe the addition of guys like Marlin of guys like scope of guys like Nelly help these kids out. I'm excited for Byron Buxton to make this season preview every year until two thousand twenty five. My guy was also max Kepler. Actually, I'm away. I'm optimistic about a breakout for him. Actually, if you look at a lot of the underlying factors about his exit velocity his ball trajectory, all that's his keta walk rate. All of that suggests he should have had a much better season than he did in terms of keta walk rate growth, he may be fourth largest improvement in all of baseball last year, his exit velocity elite elite stuff like Anthony, Rizzo type bad exit velocity. I think max Kepler is a guy will we're going to look back midway through this year or at the end of next year and be like, whoa. That contract extension. He signed is a real bargain for the twins. I'm picking two guys. Sorry about it. Nelson Cruz not what he does in the field. What he does off of it. So I was kind of poking around at twins camp. This is Dallas had a fly home for for baby number two. And we kind of had some time Nelson Cruz, by the way that interview will be airing at some point was really interesting to talk to him about you know, when you talk to a guy that leads the majors in home runs over X amount of years. You wanna talk to that guy about what he does on the field what he doesn't box, but I was more interested because he's in the latter stage of his career, you know, you get signed to come over to this. Minnesota Twins team. I'm sure they're asking you to do specific things to help out the guys around you. I mean, obviously, there takes a lot of preparation both physically and mentally to come into a season in mash forty homers when you're thirty eight years old, but what can you do for some of these younger guys? And without naming names. This was not from Nelson Cruz. This from one of the other guys it was kicking around. It was like, you know, Nellie comes in here, and immediately it's like one of the guy's missus workout in Nellie was all over them. Like that stuff matters. When you have these players that you believe in and maybe they're not putting in one hundred percent effort, preparing for one hundred sixty two games. You have a guy come in like Nelson Cruz, Ben around the block, and he sees one guy skipped his workout one day, and he's all over that asked and their brand new teammates have have to have guys like that. So I love to hear stuff like that about Nellie already having impact in spring training. But the guy that I'm looking at Jose barrios. This was when I think I think one of the questions that I asked Nelson Cruz was like who's got like some of the nastiest shit that you've seen in this league. And he started listening lifting off some guys. And I was like, yeah. One of the guys is is in that clubhouse right there and. Yeah. I think he's another dude that untapped potential. We've yet to see his best season. And when he puts it all together, you go back and look at the highlight reels when he's on virtually unhittable. But it's a matter of putting it all together. Is this the year that he does it? I don't know. I hope it is. Because when he's going he's one of the most fun pitchers in this league to watch. The White Sox Saux the White Sox question, Mark. I'll do the honors. Okay. Guys asked. Sure. Carlos rodin. Okay, named the opening day starter, which is. Not necessarily inspiring. But it's been a tough off season for the White Sox. Carlos Rodion developing into the pitcher that they thought they were getting when they took him in the first round is going to be a big step towards maybe this White Sox. This listen, you could you could name the entire White Sox. Young core as being the the thing to watch for this team. Because to me there are very few seasons that are pivotal for the trajectory of an organization is twenty nineteen is to the White Sox ofensive Lii and pitching. But Rodion is the guy that I'm choosing his ERA in his fifth have gone in the wrong direction every single year. He's been in the big leagues. That's the bad part yet a twenty four strike out right around twenty four twenty five percent between sixteen and seventeen at dropped to under eighteen percent last year on the positive side the entire month of July and the entire month of August through nine starts. He had a one eight four eight. So it looked like things were coming together. And then they kind of. Integrated. Again, I'm interested to see whether Carlos Rodion power lefty is ever going to be a thing. That's that's real in the major leagues. I'm keeping on the bump. We told you could say you mother fucker, you know, saying, yeah, we do guy. He is your guy. Jill ludo. Full Gilio you in that quaffed ass hair. Not looking good kid. Hey, let's not walk the fucking world this year. Because if if that doesn't happen is kid is bucking disgusting. Disgusting get it, and he has he has the ability to be a unicorn I used to call them horses two hundred type guys because they don't exist anymore. They're unicorns. He can be a Unicor punch outs. He can do these things. All right. I just want to see it all come together. And I think Jay he's one of the individuals that you can throw on that list or guys that you wanna see step up or guys that you wanna see have a good year. I he's been identified as a pillar of the rebuilt doubt. No doubt. And I mean, I I think there's more to be had in the tank as well in terms of swing and miss because with his stuff, I think he could garner or swing and miss. Needs to cut back on the walks. Go. It's going to happen. He led leads to. Yes. And look, and I'm gonna say this. He led the league in walks in if I'm not mistaken. He led the league in earned runs as well. But that's not a good combo bad. It's not good. Not a good look. And he he he admitted that it's not what are you gonna do fucking tonight. But he acknowledged it addressed it. And there's a correlation with putting men on base ninety of them and then crossing home plate one hundred eighteen of them. So it's not you know, I mean that can get better. I'd like to think that that's going to get better. I wanted to get better. So Lucas, my friend just make it make it a little better. Let's keep getting better. And I think he will. Yeah. I think he will two hundred percent agree with that this. I don't know if it will be the year. But it should be the year that they tell you on Moncada. To stop hitting right handed, sir. I know that you you technically can. But you really can't you can't you're left handed hitter. And that's okay. That's okay. You on. That's okay. You got to cut down on the strikeouts. You gotta ditch hitting right handed. And I think we got something here. I mean, there's there's a reason why when he was signed as an international free agent that immediately jumped up to being the number one number two prospect in baseball. I don't think it's because you see the power that he has you see how smoothie is out there. Although he can be it depends on where he is defensively at third base and absolute butcher. Stick them at second base. He's he's eating be smooth defender. You have to have someone I take the ego out of it. Because obviously when you're what sixteen years old, and you're getting sixty million dollars or whether fuck you got his an international free agent. There's going to be an ego there. This is not someone that had to, you know, make it through high school get drafted or play college and get drafted and then slugged their way through the minors. He didn't have to do that. He was just handed a fortune. Your great sixteen years old. You're the best. Here's all this money. Great. But if you're the White Sox and you want to see him flourish. You have to sit them down and be like, listen. Hitting right handed his not for you. If you want to succeed at this level, not just get by. Because getting by is not is not what yawn Moncada's full potential is. If you want you thrive at the major league level gotta get rid of hitting right handed. You're now left handed hitter. Let's see what happens. And I bet you you see some success big time. The Detroit Tigers. Don't sit on these Tigers who's gonna take millions anyone taking Mickey taking Mickey. Okay. I would like you to go. I just five homers until five hundred and a hundred sixty two million remaining on the deal. Like, it's I want to see him continue to do. Well, I want 'cause to me like it's really hard, and I take interest and just about everything in baseball. It's really hard to find a lot of bright spots on this roster for two thousand nineteen and I I- resurgent Miguel. Cabrera would go a long way towards making this bearable. I think. I'm. Keeping it on the bump again, and it's not Fulmer. It's our friend Daniel Orse. Okay. And it's actually because of what has happened to Fulmer. It's not like a rotation. Spot is opened up, but a rotation spot is opened up, and I think for a guy who's kind of found himself in the bullpen found himself in the rotation swingman. This is an opportunity to to really entrenched himself or really solidify himself as a starter in this rotation. Whether they're in that rebuil-, whatever Bubalo, blah, hey, you wanna be a big league starter the opportunity has presented itself. If it wasn't already clearly there before what are you gonna do with it? And I think I think it's something that he could very, well, you know, because we talked to him, you know, health looking good legs or feeling good. And if his if his his groins are feeling good, no reason to believe he can't be a slap and tickling not spotting rotation. Sticking with starting nine alumni Nick cast the anos last year career year played in a hundred fifty seven games for the second consecutive season. Forty six doubles. Twenty-three homers and eight fifty four P S guess what a fucking contract year walk year. The Tigers are probably gonna end up flipping him. Actually, they definitely are gonna end up flipping him. I don't see an extension. I think they were. I think he said there's no talks of an extension this past printing. This is a guy that's gonna end up finding himself a nice home with a playoff contender. He's gonna actually get to play in front of fans that are not nothing against Tigers fans, but he's going to play in a playoff environment. Hopefully, and I'm I'm kind of intrigued to see if he can surpass what he did last year. I mean, have almost hitting fifty fucking doubles pretty impressive, especially for a corner a guy like that. So Nick Cassiano gotta watch. The royale with cheese damn you. Jay. Really? Thinking about that the entire time. Well, that's a good example of your lingo seeping into the way the rest of us talk fucking. Just sort of a bitch those good, thanks, really good. At a baritone onto c o. Cable Seta I two hundred nine plate appearances across parts of two seasons. Four ninety seven PS which sounds fake last year over seventy five games an eight oh, four with thirty two stolen bases in seventy five cams. And if you just look at September, it was an eighty six oh p s with fourteen steals in twenty six games. I have no idea whether this is sustainable, but I do know that that profile is absolutely fascinating. You just don't see guys get on base as infrequently as he does and still end up with that sheer number of stolen bases, or that's stolen base rate. So he could be very bad. And this could be kind of like, you know, maybe he's not anything or he could be one of the most exciting players in baseball. Because base running and base stealing is exciting. Even if it's not efficient all the time. And he could also be one of the most important fantasy players in baseball. Year two which is a secondary point. He's a guy. Honestly that a lot of people are saying he could win you your league. If you get get him in the right spot because he could steal seventy bases. And he is an exciting player to watch Jay in what I hope will turn out to be an exciting brand of baseball temps salons 'cause our man no tugging Dayton Moore. Put together. A speed type game. Right. That's what he wants to the ballpark guys. Let me talk about too little story about a guy named Whitmer field that is to our plus Knox forty plus bags to that guy is that's who Whitmer 'field is. All right. So we got guys that can touch the ball crops hit behind some guys put this game in motion, t- gore, pure, depth guy. Breaking here's what are we going? What are we got our? Who is it? From Mark Berman. Sources. The Astros have reached an agreement on a six year one hundred million dollar contract with all star third baseman, Alex bregman that inclu- season the deal covers this year in the three years that he'd be eligible for arbitration. Plus the first two years that Alex comb a free agent. Wow. Check it. Break. Oh. I just poke myself in the chin right now. That is. And then we got Rosenthal source confirms Astros in agreement with Alex bregman on a six year one hundred million dollar contract book. Awesome boys were lucky. I'm record the podcast, right? Probably would have dropped that on the world. Oh, yeah. Good for Alex. Fuck. Yeah. L rates pregnant looks great for pregnant. Yeah. I love to see all the young stars are being identified. Yes. They are not that. We didn't know who they were. But these are it's weird. We're starting to see free agency sort of take a back seat to how these bitter deals are getting done. How the? Teams are teams with money are finally saying, hey, these guys aren't taking hometown discounts anymore. Like, you're the days of the hometown discount are behind us. Because once you start throwing around Mike trout money where you're making close to half a Bill. Now, these guys that are going to be in the same conversation, not at the same conversations Mike show, but premier players in this league seeing what top guys are getting paid the Nolan are not of the world or they. Hey, I'd love to stay here. But you gotta pay me like I'm gonna get paid on the open market. And if you're going to be a team that is interested in retaining said players, just pay them, just pay them. What they're what they would be worth on the open market and more than likely. They're gonna wanna stay. We keep seeing. Fucking love it love to see it love to. Oh. Makes makes my heart flutter bregman. My ven MO is I think it's just Jared corrobos. I don't think there's a dash in there. I think it's just I think it's just my name whatever the start, whatever percentage. The starting nine bump gets you. Don't forget it forget about let's be honest that Houston front office. They took to heart. The numbers that are are are Nassau scientists are NASA. Scientists ran for us on that video. They were like to be real. It's probably thirty six feet away perceive. A loss was probably somewhere in the neighborhood of one thirty five north of that we need to get these hands. These is locked down like yesterday. Final thoughts when they saw the video. That's those are my final thoughts. Have you seen that video j I hadn't seen it seen it billion fucking house? Yeah. Somebody had sent it to me every it's on my time line every time. I open up Twitter some hell. Yeah. Let's spirit how next hey, AL east and L west next week. Oh, I see. New one side of the country. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I want I walked through that one big guy. Yusen producers. Just just sent pregnant of. Kind hearted message. Good. It's my it's my MO. I hope he sends you ninety seven cents for that. Chat on just I I've never seen a bigger just openly urinate in public like you did all over that with -able. We don't have to talk about it. And that's the end of the show. Thanks for listening. Thanks longoria for coming on. And congratulations. Alex pragman? Baseball's back first pitch tonight.

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Effectively Wild Episode 1336: Season Preview Series: Twins and Phillies

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

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Effectively Wild Episode 1336: Season Preview Series: Twins and Phillies

"Shave. Really? Was falsely strong held on? Used? It was done of. And welcome to episode thirteen thirty six of wild eight baseball podcast from van graphs. Presented by our patriots. Porter's? I am Lindberg of the ringer joined by Jeff Sullivan crash. So so if you look yet the recent wrote a world news Johnny Cueto sock. The pitching twenty twenty Johnny Cueto was down twenty pounds. And congratulations to Johnny Cueto a lot of weight to lose. But he's not the winner. Not even today. Louis Cahora said Friday, he's lost thirty five to forty pounds over the offseason. And Brett Ceaser said Friday that he lost forty two pounds over the season. That is a hundred pounds between three players that's been lost. That's a it's a lot of pounds. Maybe Cueto is in mourning. Maybe he's not eating because of his horse Popeye. He's another guy who doesn't have to pitch anytime soon. So doesn't really have to keep himself in shape, by the way. There was a follow up on the Popeye story. Evidently, the horse was killed by poisonous grasshoppers, which I didn't realize was the thing. I've never eaten grasshoppers not even at Safeco field. Evidently there poisonous ones and horses shouldn't eat them. I didn't know that horses. Eight grasshoppers. No, I learned a lot from update. Yeah. It is funny. When you see guys getting in these so-called best shape of their lives often that shape can be very different with some guys. They both up, and they showed up with twenty new pounds of muscle and other guys it's dropping weight, which is not the pricing because some people are underway people overweight. But it's also interesting when you see the different regimens that they followed over the winter because some guys it's like oh west year. I didn't with enough weight, and I were down over the course of a season. And so I've really bulked up this time whereas other guys will go in completely the other direction will say I booked up too much Wes year now, I've just been doing yoga and flexibility exercises, and of course, drink stuff. And so there's always a different story, but it all boils down to best shape of my life of your life. And it turns out there is a lot of misinformation when it comes to physical Venice, and what might be best for an individual player. So you can give somebody. Advice that will your flexibility when approve if you actually got stronger you should bulk up you'll hit the ball harder. Your throw the ball faster. But it turns out sometimes it's not true. And the fact that you see somebody players who just kind of ride the BMI coaster suggests that not everybody has it quite figured out. I don't know. Maybe that just means they have the wrong people in their ears. But in any case Ryan vir event is back into organs. Baseball throwing knuckleball. Well, it wasn't that long ago that people used to tell baseball players to lift weights because they would get too big and bulky and either they would tear things or they wouldn't be able to hit or it would decrease their bat speed or something let the bunk that wasn't packed up anything. But that has changed in recent years. I feel like your response. Didn't do anything to acknowledge Ryan fear. I just I moved right hunt from. I am always interested in the guy who just comes out of nowhere with an uncle ball of a sudden. But it doesn't work out. I mean almost every time it doesn't pin out into the guy coming back and throwing a great knuckleball for ten more years. But most rooting for those people because they're just not allowed to knuckle bars left one of the problems with looking at Ryan fear bend. I'm going to keep doing this looking at Ryan fair band on baseball references that at least last I checked it. He's he's been bitching career and his twenty eighteen stats aren't actually included in. So you go there, and you think oh what happened to Ryan fear been but he pitched in twenty teen to four three era in Korea and the only walked thirty eight batters and hundred sixty three third innings. This look I don't know what Ryan been is gonna do. It's probably not gonna make the major leagues and he's probably not going to be good in the major leagues. But this might be the first blue move that just makes my brain renowned Carson still he did this. So I'm going to without without asking inquiring. I'm going to assume that Carson's the Steelers responsible for the Buddhist signing knuckleballer Thirty-three-year-old, Ryan Fairmont. Yeah. That that would sound like Carson Sicily move in the genre of players reporting. With different sizes one of our guests on this episode actually met Gelb tweeted when the Phillies reported for spring training. Michael Franko looks like half of his former self and he meant that in terms of dropping weight. If a player was actually half of his former weighed her mass when he showed up for the star receives and that seems like it would probably be a curious to do your performance if you were half the size that you wear. Well, so what was it last year? Aaron judge weighed in at what about two eighty that accurate. I don't know exactly where he was. But Aaron judge quarterbacks references to eighty two and wasn't Ronald to raise like one fifty two. It wasn't that the biggest spread at least in terms of official, wait. So if Aaron judge showed up one spring with I guess his Bill you can't really drink build but Ronald Therese's, wait. Well, okay. Hold on. What would be a bigger problem? Aaron judge shows up when spring Ronald's raises way to Ronald twisters up when spring Aaron judge. Sounds like some Email questions that we've answered in the past. I would guess I mean, probably like Ronald Therese can't get that much worse than Ronald Therese Arias. Right. Like if Rowntree were very bad. He's not great to begin with. So in terms of just like sheer impact on war. I would think that Aaron judge losing half his weight would probably be a bigger impact than route Trask doubling his I guess that's fair. But you know, maybe somebody's gonna tell round the rest of bulk up. I guess we should talk sticking with the Yankees while we've been recording this sort of the Yankees agreed to a contract extension. You got. Yeah. Got thoughts on Luis Severino sticking around. Well, let me first say that this is a team preview podcast in few minutes. We will be getting to the Minnesota Twins with Aaron Glenn and the aforementioned Matt Gelb to talk about the Phillies. So that is coming up soon. But yes, I did want to just briefly Pinter about a few pitching trends here. Because you and I have both written pitching trend pieces of. Sort this week. But this seems to be another one, and maybe it's not just pitcher specific. But it could be we talked about Aaron Knowle's extension with the Phillies the other day. And yes now, we have a Luis Severino extension with the ANC means. We also have max Kepler and Jorges Lanka extensions with the twins this extension season. They're always a bunch of extensions around this time of year. But it does seem as if the Nola extension and the Severino extension and possibly the Kepler extension. Are kind of of a piece here, I was just scanning your graphs chat, and you got a bunch of questions about whether we're just gonna see a rash of extensions for arbitration eligible players because of fears of regency and you sent to said, yes, I haven't run the numbers. It'll probably do that after we were the guests. But it's also too early to look at the numbers because this offseason isn't yet complete extinction season lasts right up until opening day. And then players don't want the distraction of negotiating his. But it makes all this in the world in theory that we would start to see more extensions not only because freedoms. Has been devalued. But also because players have concerns about future work stoppage. And so they wanna get theirs while while the Ken, so we'll see if it bears out in practice. All conditions are always different. But I think there's every reason in the world to think that we are going to start seeing more and more of these extensions. We already see a few every single spring. And now he's seen what like five or six already this week spring training just started. Yeah. And the Severino extension seems like particularly team friendly run rate in as always it makes sense from the players perspective in that they're getting much richer and getting enough money to live off for the rest of their life. If they're careful with it. And so you understand why they do that. Of course, Severino was about to make multiple millions of dollars in arbitration anyway or could have so it's not as if he was necessarily lacking funds. So does the seem to you like a particularly egregious extension that a player shouldn't have signed acknowledging that it's difficult to. Pass judgment on a player for agreeing to become very wealthy. What I like about this one more for every I mean, Severino was already going to make at least four point four million dollars in arbitration if he didn't sign any sanctions, so he he was already going to have that much money. And then even in the worst case scenario where he just blows out his arm tomorrow. He would still be tendered a contract by the Yankees next year. And he would make some millions of dollars Severino was already going to be rich just moving forward without doing anything. But what I do like about this. It is it's team friendly. Luis Severino would have almost certainly made more than forty million dollars over the course of his reputation years, but he only signed away one free agent year in you think back to all those old contracts. The Chris sale contractor that Matt Moore contractor, Madison, Bumgarner, whatever contract you wanna point to and they would sign away like two or three or four would be free agent here. So at least this leaves every note more of an opportunity to get to the market, which who knows what the fridge market's gonna look like in five years. Maybe it'll be fine. There's gonna be there's still a lot. Out of money in free. Even if it's not what it was. So severing didn't sign away too much of his future rights. He was already going to be club controlled. So that's that's not so bad. Yeah. I almost wonder whether the unified messaging that we've seen from the players lately if players are all very concerned about free agency. There are some good reasons to be, but maybe they're too concerned about free agency. It's possible that it could come back to bite them. If all the players are thinking, okay, we're not going to get paid. If we actually hit the open market. So we'd better sign. These team friendly extensions than all of them will be on these sort of low dollar deals, and maybe they will shoot themselves in the feet to a certain extent. So I don't know how you legislate out the need or desire to sign the sort of extension. You'd have to have a higher minimum salary or higher arbitration figures or less team control something structural would have to change to make it not in the player's best interest because teams can always absorb the risk of anyone extension whereas players. Cannot absorb the risk of their one career going wrong because that's all they have. Right. And it's it's a little surprising to see some of these extensions happening with players looking at arbitration because when players are earlier in their careers and they're still on referee league minimum salaries. It's maybe easier to to dazzle them by dropping like tens of millions of dollars in front of them as a guarantee, but the so many of these players recently have already been looking at millions of dollars guaranteed to them through arbitration. Or in the case of certain players like Aaron Nola had a signing bonus in the draft of three point three million dollars. Like, these players are already wealthy wealthier than you. And I not maybe wealthy by major league standards. But still this is I do look forward to running some of the numbers and seeing how this actually works out seeing what off last offseason, look like relative to some of the ones previous because there's every reason the world that we would see more and more of this. And you're right. This is kind of how it snowballs. If players veteran players start circulating all these fears about free agency, then you're gonna get more of these players signing below market extensions. And then everything just gets worse. And worse and worse at least from from that standpoint on the field is still the same. But you know, now where this is in the air where we're not just about the product on the field anymore. Right. All right. So I look forward to your findings on that. Maybe we'll talk about them next time. And maybe we can save a mex- Kepler question for Aaron in minute. But the other trends, I was alluding to you wrote about velocity. And what seems to be a stagnation in league wide classy, I wrote about pitching prospect. So I'll just summarize that first everyone knows saying the sabre metric credo from the ninety s there's no such thing as a pitching prospect, and that has always been something of an exaggeration. Not literally true. But these days it actually seems to be more accurate than ever. If you look at the top of top prospect lists, regardless of the source. You'll just see what fewer pitchers than there used to be. It's been a long time since we a number one ranked pitcher if you scan the list this year, I think fan graphs has three pitchers in its top twenty prospects. And that's. Including a two way player Brennan McKay. Lot of other sources have one pitcher in the top eleven or ten or twelve. It's usually forest Whitley is like fourth or fifth or seventh or something. And then to awhile before you get to the next pitcher. So it talked to a bunch of prospect ranker's and does seem to be a real trend. JJ Cooper baseball. Merica was telling me that they've had a lot of internal conversations about this. They're aware of it. They've talked to people in the industry who have said that this reflects what team lists look like there's just west confidence in pitchers now. There are just as many pitching prospects in say a top one hundred. We haven't seen a big decline there. But they're not clustered close to the top anymore. They're distributed toward the bottom of the list because the top ten the top twenty. Those are supposed to be your blue chippers. You're no doubters guys, you can really count on and pitchers cannot become too as we know. They have a lot of injuries there riskier if you look at me historical outcomes for top hitting prospects versus top ten. Ching prospects, the hitting prospects always outperform the pitcher. So this is just kind of a correction that maybe has been a long time coming I think public prospect ranker's have sort of been seduced by the ceiling of players. And now, maybe they're considering the realistic and expected outcomes a little more. So it's both injuries. And it's also the changes in pitcher usage where even if you get a really good starting pitcher. He's throwing two hundred innings now. Instead, a two fifty and maybe doesn't even get to two hundred. So a good pitcher just maybe not make the sort of impact that a good pitcher made in the past. So that's the trend. I wrote about an obviously that is related to velocity because Voss has had something to do with the epidemic of injuries. But you've found that it seems like the increase at least is slowing or has actually stopped that something actually stumbled upon for the first time live on this podcast. You might remember a few weeks ago up some data, and I thought, oh, this looks a little areas and looking at some of the trends, the velocity surge that I think we all. About a few years ago where league wind philosophies were on the up and up has plateaued doesn't mean it's done growing for sure but rookies aren't throwing harder now than than they did a few years ago the league wide fastball lawsuits have an increase them much and the rate of pitches thrown above ninety five or one hundred miles per hour hasn't meaningfully increased in the last few years. And so it makes you wonder maybe players have maybe conditioning who's improvements word that he's implemented. Now, everybody is already throwing it at around one hundred percent, of course, as more to pitching well in the majors than just throwing his heart as you can. But you know, we're we're kind of pushing up against physiological boundaries. And you as far as I know if a body is created to top out at ninety seven or ninety eight you can't make that body throw ninety nine or a hundred there's nothing you can do. Now. I'm sure if I were to have a conversation with people drive line, maybe they could steer me to something. Maybe a little more nuanced in maybe can develop tendon strength or strengthened other areas. But generally, we the harder majorly pitcher's throwing. The closer. We are to the limit of how hard majorly pitchers can throw. And so it's just interesting to see the last few years that there is no real movement anymore. Of course strike at rates continues to increase by bit. But I think you, and I both understand why that would be because it trying to get more strikeouts. They have the data advantage over the hitters, and they're throwing fewer fastballs. The threat of the hard. Fastball makes a change upper a slider. Curveball more dangerous. And so as pitchers are able to optimize repertoires. Of course. They're going to be more strikeouts. Batters are not disincentivize really from striking out because strike go hand-in-hand with productive plate appearances a lot of the time. So it's not pitcher velocity that's causing the strike at to continue to go up. But this does now make me reconsider whether the league needs to move the mound back, but I am still interested in maybe lowering the Madden and seeing with that do. Yeah. And part of it is pitcher usage has increased velocity too. Because you have starters going deep into game. So they don't have to pace themselves. You've guys coming in for an inning at a time. Maybe the pace of change there. I mean, that's still seems to be changing somewhat where you have guys facing the order for the third time less and less often. So you'd think that that would continue to drive the up at least a little bit even in the absence of actual changes on an individual basis, which we know that fastball speed is more mutable than it. Once was there all these science back to programs now for increasing velocity. But there are limits there, and I don't know maybe the pace of change has slowed a little like using an opener is not necessarily gonna drive up velocity. Because it's just a guy pitching in the beginning of the game instead of later in the game. But there are still some trends there where I was sorta surprised to see that stagnation because listener asked us about this when we talked about it before you don't think it's related to the rise of position player pitching. Right. That that there's not a there aren't enough innings going position players. Even now that that would be driving down or at least restraining the increase. Oh, no, no. Okay. All right. Okay. So I guess it's good news. Maybe for baseball that philosophy does not continue to climb. But obviously even where it is. It is we to strike outs and lots of injuries and by extension extensions. So we will stop there and take a quick break. And we'll be back in just a moment. With Aaron Glenn to talk about the twins, followed by Matt gilt Phillies. Fifty. Well this week baseball prospectus annual perspectives two thousand eighteen begun to arrive in some of your mailboxes. And right now, one of the co editors of that book Aaron Glenn has arrived on the podcast. Hello, Aaron little, okay. While we're on the subject wanna give us a quick plug. I don't know if there's anyone who doesn't know what the PP, and you'll is or looks like at this point. But hey, it's out there, and you can go get it. Yes. It is. I don't know six hundred something pages of tons of baseball stats and essays and player comments. And all that stuff. If you haven't for some reason, if you've listened to this podcast, and you've never read a BP annual nineteen bucks. Get it available. We're all books are sold. I'm relatively confident that if you listen to my voice right now, you'll think it's a good deal for nineteen bucks. I agree. Well, I almost rescinded our invitation to you to come on this podcast because you tweeted what you think the projected opening day twins roster will. Look like did not include William tested, the oh. Where in the venture starting lineup. I was very upset to see this. But I that you are just trying to project what the twins will do not necessarily what you think the twins should do. We know at least that s DO has gotten permission to enter the country and we'll be into camp on Saturday. So we can continue to play the twin season to cancel the whole thing. He will be there. But we have to get the STO question out of the west because we we start every podcast by talking about us to DO. So we're certainly going to start the twin segment that him. When will he be there? What role will he play? How much will win fans and all of us get to see him this season. I feel the need to say I am. I am on the lots to abandon obviously, like like many people including you guys. I viewed him has as let's say like a person of intrigue before he was called up to the twins. And then after actually watching him in August and September I'm fairly convinced that he's not only major league Calver player, but should be in the majors. Like, he's not just a borderline guy. But the issue there like you said when I tried to map out what they're opening day roster is they have Jason Castro making I think eight and a half million this year, and they have Mitch Garber who spent much last year as the primary catcher after Jason Castro got hurt. And so that leaves s the deal as the potential third catcher, which you know, most teams including the twins are not gonna keep a third catcher. He could potentially make it in sort of a quasi utility role. But I think most likely because he has a minor league option left. He's gonna be the fans of Rochester. New York are the ones who get to watch Williams as the deal at the beginning of season, absolutely infuriating. But whatever I guess we'll move on from that. And we'll talk when he comes back up, but looking looking at the twins, this this whole offseason so much at least for the first month or two is there's a lot of conversation. But have the Indians we're gonna take an intentional step back. Maybe trade Corey kluber one of their starters in one of the reasons for that was because the Indians weren't being pushed they're in a terrible division last season. It. Division that looked like it was not going to be very good again in twenty nineteen and you look at the twins this and the similar to last offseason. They've been busy. They've added. See crown Jonathan scope Nelson Cruz Martine Peres like Parker, Michael Pineda's going to be on the team this year after missing last year, Tommy John surgery. So the twins of been busy. But their payroll is projected to be down by about twenty million dollars. There are players out there on the market that can help what is your level of satisfaction or dissatisfaction with the twins off seasons at this point. It's low, although whatever it was six weeks ago. One of let's say the day, they signed Elson Cruz. I felt like that put a finishing touch on their plans for the lineup. And I liked it a lot I thought Nelson. Cruz was a great pickup like you said scope and Cronin. Some other moves at that really worked. Well, and my assumption at that point was okay now, they'll turn their attention to the pitching side, and they still have twenty five maybe thirty million dollars to reasonably expect them to spend. And at that same point whether it was six or eight weeks ago. Like, you said the everyone was kind of wondering if the Indians we're going to not tear it down. But but shed some more expensive parts and see you add those things together. And it was one of the few times in recent memory where I think twins fans were like, oh, wow. Are we gonna see some aggressive? Good moves might they try to swoop in and take this division a year or two head of schedule. And then it turns out no not really Martine Peres in and Blake Parker. The only moves they've made sense. And as you pointed out on Twitter, it's kind of ironic fit the twins just seemed to have shed the amount of money that they used to be paying our. So that twin's vins were upset and thought that Mauer's contract prevented them for making other moves. And now now is contract is gone. And they just have not replied that money to anyone else. It's it's on. I mean, I've spent so much of my online baseball dome. Trying to fight back against people who say either that Johm Mauer is overrated or overpaid or some combination. And then he's finally out of the picture. Clear twenty three million. And I like like you mentioned there at one zero five in terms of current payroll and last yet opening day, I think they were at one twenty eight and change which that's twenty three million which exactly what our makes. And I think there's a decent chance. Similar to what they did last spring training when they brought in like Lance Lynn in Logan Morrison very late. I think there's a chance that they end up signing another player or maybe even two to a one year deal whoever falls into their laps. But they're gonna be still think ten or fifteen at the very least below last year's payroll which. Yeah, it turns out Mauer might have been the only thing keeping them from having a very very low payroll. I know it's always easy to spend somebody else's money. And you know, there's always a two way street here. But as you look at the twins, especially after signing Martine Peres, you know, if they wanted to left you get Grandpa's Dallas on the market. You look at the bullpen. They got like Parker. But the angels didn't even want Blake Parker and Craig Kimble's out. There is a closer. Like could there be? Two more obvious fits for the steam right now, if they wanted to push the buttons because like you said like we've all said they do have the money to spend. But have there been any indications of those players or even the least bit interested? Not really no not that. I don't even really try to play the role of reporter. But you know, I've I've tried to reach out to the few twins people who will reply back to me and say, basically what you were just asking. Which is is there any chance here that if Kimbrell has to settle for three year deal that you guys will jump in. Or if wants to do a short term deal that you guys will jump in. And they always basically say, well, we're not the the phone lines are open. But I don't think it's going to happen. I think the more frustrating part for me because I at the beginning of the offseason. I certainly wasn't projecting them to sign either of those guys. But the frustrating part to me is why not sign I don't know Sewri a- or Robertson or some reliever along those lines even like a Cody Allen hype. Instead, it's just been Blake Parker who you know, can be a decent reliever. I think. If you look at their bullpen needs all kinds of help, obviously Craig kimbrel. I think would make tons of sense and realistically the money this year and the money next year would have really no impact on their voting to build long-term. Because like we just mentioned their twenty something million short of last year's payroll and even after signing a couple of guys to extensions today. Officially plonk in Kepler. I think they're total guaranteed money on the books for next year's like twelve million. So you could overpay kimbrel or Kyko this year and next year, and maybe even twenty twenty one, and it really wouldn't hinder you at all. But yeah, I I'm not even you know, I'd say there's like a three percent chance that either of those things have sadly, Jeff, and I were just talking about the extensions that have recently been signed. And we have tabled are cock about the twins extensions and saved it for you. So next Kepler and her hip Lunka have both been signed to extensions. How do you project those players over the life of those deals and particularly Kepler sin? He's been kind of regarded as a popular breakout pick in some circles, and he doesn't seem to have priced himself as someone who's about to break out. I've view them sort of similarly, I think there's more to be I guess potentially on locked in Kepler just because he's a really good defensive outfielder. He draws walks. He has I think a pretty good approach at the plate. He can hit twenty five homers, but his batting average on balls and play has just been abysmal every year. And so I think there's some tweak that they could potentially make there in terms of his swing that would unlock it. Hold a whole new like window of opportunity for him to be an impact guy Palumbo. Think is eventually gonna wind up at second base and eighth place hitter who hits seventy five with a bunch of doubles solid player. I think both of them have a high enough floor that you really can't go wrong with extensions like this. I mean, I'm sort of of the opinion that you can't go wrong on extensions like this period. Unless you just choose the worst players on your team to give them to. But the the reward is so high in terms of Bino free agency, and the really the worst case scenario is that even if both of these guys became terrible players, which I don't think they will. But even if that happens you're out like twelve million dollars a year when we just finished discussing the twins aren't even really max out there payroll, not even close anyway. So I like both of those moves I think the next step that they should hopefully be trying to take his lockup Jose burrito who obviously has a lot more upside. But he's also a two plus year guy in terms of service time, it's seems like they're not going to approach to know or Buxton because they approached both guys last offseason with offers and then things have gone haywire. Since then I'm going to leave the Buxton question to Ben. 'cause I look there's going to be a Buxton question is probably going to be four bucks questions. This could be a half hour Buston questions. But let's go right onto to an anonymous player last year the twins replaced Byron Buxton with Jake cave, and I could just reading aloud gave batted. Deed Hata half seasons with plate appearances had a one away WC. Plus it for our is Jay cave. Good. I think Jake cave is a pretty good hitter. And can be a really nice hitter. If platoon I think the big question with him is he's not a center fielder. I think he's pretty brutal centerfield any might not really even be a plus in the corners, which have Buxton Senator of Kepler. And right. You have any resigned and left. I think caves probably if things go, according to plan gonna get two hundred fifty at bats something like that this year, maybe three hundred he's a nice player like I think a borderline starter. But I think he's also I think he's twenty six years old, and he was cut loose by the ankles off their forty man roster because they had numbers crunch, and it's wins swooped in grabbed them. So I think he's like a good pickup and a useful player. I just think the odds are he's gonna come back down to earth a little bit. Here's the Buxton question. Or maybe we'll make it a combination Buxton to note question, and you can just talk for ten minutes. So I saw that you tweeted the year by year progression. Number one, same age comparable players for Buxton and snow, according to coda and Buxton's comps over the past several years have included Robin yount, Mike trout, Christian yelich, sonoma's comps have included just enough in Giancarlo Stanton. Kris Bryant and their two thousand nineteen comes are Austin Jackson for Byron Paxton and Mark Reynolds for Galvano Ray have come down in the world, according to coda. So what should we expect out of both of these guys at this point? It's like they would both be stars. It's looked like they would both be nothing where we're going to end up with them either this year in the future. I mean that is a very sad progression. It made me sad typing out. But what makes it even sadder? I think is there's not that much of me that really disagrees with where they stand. Now. I think the Mark Reynolds comp in particular for snow, which I think he said the last two years is seems kind of fitting to me in that. He's a guy who came up. And showed a bunch of power. But then the flaws were exposed and he's been a decent player. I mean, he said some thirty Homer seasons. But he's not really a good third baseman. So he's more of a first baseman, and he's probably gonna hit two thirty more often than he hits to seventy and you start in because he strikes out so much and you start to talk about it, and you go, well, that's kinda worse. Annot is I still think signal has more upside than that, certainly? But if snow settles in is like a two fifty hitter with some walks and some power, and he's really more of a first baseman than the third baseman. That's not really the type of guy, particularly in, you know, at this point in in team building in power hitting as an era that you really want to build around, which makes me think that there's more reason to have faith in Buxton still turning out to be an impact guy. But I say that if someone who says that every year, I feel like I've said that thirty years in a row, even though Buxton's only like twenty five and there's only really been like three months during that time where I've been right? And during those three months, I just constantly brag about how. I am that Buxton's breaking out. And then he gets hurt or he goes back to being terrible hitter. But the thing that Buxton can fall back on his healthy. He's a great center fielder. And he's probably one of the two best base runners all baseball. So even if he hits like to forty with fifteen homers. I think he's an all star caliber guys. So I've it's gone back and forth because I mean, sin wasn't all-star basically a year ago before he he had significant leg injury. But I have more faith now in Buxton, but that should be taken with large grains of salt because I am may I may renowned Buxton Bobo here locally. So during the twenty seven twenty twelve off season Derek fell v was the Indians co director of baseball operations along with David Stearns. Who is of course, now in charge of the brewers twenty sixteen Falvo was promoted to assistant GM and then in October of two thousand sixteen Derek valve he was hired to run the twins for the most part. So he had he's he's now completed his third off. Season one of the Twinsies had two regular seasons under the belts. So by this point, whatever Derek valves preferences are shoot have been implemented. He should have the organization that he was hoping to build. So in your estimation. You've had little over two years of the Derek valve Iran, Minnesota Twins. What is your evaluation of the team's front office? I think they have fall and also Thad LeVine. Have who is brought in from Texas at the same time to be at the GM. They've built the organization they want. They've brought in whether it's coaching whether it's player development. Whether it's research and development analytic guys they've spent a ton of additional resources compared to the previous regime who basically spent on on the decide and they've brought in a lot of people who I think are incredibly smart from some of our favorite websites and some of our favorite front offices, and that and in talking to those people you can't help but be impressed and be optimistic about the things they're doing behind the scenes now with that said. They just haven't done much in terms of onfield stuff or acquisitions except for maybe the Nelson Cruz signing. They've been trading away some people they've been making budget signings, which is sort of was has been the twins them for fifty years. So I'm very confident that this front office knows what it's doing is moving in the correct direction and his done, particularly behind the scenes a lot of things that the average fan may not care about. But will ultimately like the results from but you still have to put a good team on the field. And I do feel like they have taken a similar stance to the previous regime, and that it's well, we don't need to spend now 'cause we're waiting we're waiting and we're waiting in at some point. You know, I think fans is kind of sick that sink. It was a little embarrassing for the twins at the deadline last year when they traded Ryan Presley to the Astros and Presley went on to be one of the best relievers in baseball in the second half. Because. Does the Astra's set him down and made some recommendations about ways he could change his approach, and he did and suddenly he reached a whole new level not that he had been bad for the twins. So that seemed like an indication that the twins had some breakdown of communication somewhere along the way from the front office to the field, and they took steps to rectify that this offseason, can you give us some insight into the twins managerial makeover and they're coaching staff turnover. I think that's one hundred percent, right. What you said is everyone respects Paul Molitor? He is truly a legend in Minnesota and Milwaukee to I guess but in Toronto, but the problem that I think people found were a the sort of day to day relationships weren't there with Molitor who's like almost seventy years old and some of the twenty five year old players. But the bigger thing was what you just mentioned with Ryan Presley. And there were some other examples where they felt like wall Molitor was somewhat open to let's call it. The new school. Approach. He wasn't really a effective middleman. In terms of getting that information into the hands in the minds of players. And so they replaced him with Rockall ball deli who by all accounts seems to be potentially one of the more effective people. You could ever find it that. And then on the particularly on the pitching side, they hired west Johnson from the college ranks to be their new pitching coach. And I'm reading some of the quotes early in camp from I think Blake Parker had one. And there's a couple other pitchers who have talked about working on them. He's you know, he's breaking out all the tech. He can possibly find. And the early quotes are all basically, I have no idea what he was talking about. But he made it make sense to me. And now, I'm tweaking this, and I'm tweaking that and I think that's one of the the bigger reasons for optimism for twenty nineteen and also beyond is that they can start to get more out of the talent. They have on hand. I think particularly in the pitching side looking at the Beijing side. I don't know if there are many more intriguing. Young pitchers in major league baseball than Jose, bro. Sees I think it's probably fairly common knowledge. Now that there's the some pretty flattering pitch comes to the late Jose Fernandez in the pitches that he's able to throw but looking at twenty seventeen to twenty eighteen burritos didn't seem to take a huge step forward. He's he's still clearly very good. He gets a lot of strikeouts limits as walks, but is in in your mind, how close is Jose burritos right now to being a finished product. And what do you think that finished product would look like, I think he right now is probably I know number two starter. I think what you said is right that he he's really good. But he hasn't quite taken that jump to great yet. And I think part of it is if you look back not only last year, but the year before he really kinda fell apart down the stretch. And I wonder you know, he's he's a small pitcher. He's a slight pitcher always in great shape. I think that was one of the issues from the moment. They drafted him was how much terms of workload can this guy handle. And I think there's some concern that he doesn't break down. Physically. But he just loses a little bit of affective nece and starts give homers can't last as long in starts. I think there's also in terms of pitch mix and the way he approaches things I think the twins. I don't know if they said this on the record. But I know they feel like there's a couple of small tweaks they can make to try to unlock a little more potential just by having him focused on the things he does well, and and kinda ditch the pitches, or at least these situations where used those pitches that is ineffective, and I realized every pitch and coach every team is trying to do that. But I think there's I'm relatively optimistic about Berea something, I think he's he's a super hard worker. The talent just like from a pure arm talent standpoint is is for sure number one started caliber. So he's he's a huge key. Because if he doesn't take a step forward the rest of their rotation and really the whole pitching staff is is pretty underwhelming. Yeah. Will after years and years decades of constructing their pitching staff out of Brad Radke? Clones who were not mostly as good as. Radke the twins. Finally got out of the strikeout rate basement last year, they weren't one of the best strike at teams in baseball. But for the first time in a while, they weren't one of the worst than brioche was part of that. So it was return of Trevor may who's now a pitcher again in addition to a twits dreamer is there. Anyone else on the way who could send that strikeout rate soaring, even higher how high can it go who else was responsible for that change Taylor? Rogers is a guy who took a huge step forward last year in their coat on him to basically be their primary setup. Man. I think he was a former fifth starter type throughout the miners left-hander who got knocked around by righties all the time and then became kind of a mediocre middle reliever. Then all of a sudden last year turned his breaking ball until weapon and was bliss just phenomenal. Especially down the stretch, the one guy that I would really point to as having the potential to be an impact on along with burritos is Fernando Romero who's been a top hundred prospect for a while now. But the the question they have with him. Now is it's he's been a starter. Throughout his career. And he had five good starts with the twins last year. And then, you know, six or seven bad ones. And it sounds like they're all but settled on him if he begins the season the majors it'll be as a reliever so one I'm curious about there is what be traditional relief rural. Or will? It be a multi inning two three times a week role where they can maybe get him to ninety or one hundred innings anyway in which case, my usual protests against moving young starters to permanent relief. Roles won't be a strong because as long as you can get more than sixty five innings out of them in there may be higher leverage. That's fine with me. But yeah, I think he's he's an example of guy who could be an impact arm Pineda who you mentioned earlier if he's anything like he was pre injury would be really good. Although I feel like pre injury is sort of a constant state for Pineda. But other than that, I'm not SuperFood about their their bullpen options. Which goes to what I was saying earlier about I just don't I I'm confused about why spending eight. Or ten million on a proven good quality veterans setup man wasn't really in in the cards. You took my Kayla Rogers question before it could ever Escott. And I guess I can't really move onto a Trevor Hilden Birger question because that would have been more relevant year ago. So as you as you look at the twins. Now, this is a roster. That's clearly even just with burritos and Buxton and Keppler alone. There's there's a lot of upside that's on this roster right now. But do you think and also to question your degree of confidence is this organization moving in in the right direction is this team on the upswing? And and if you believe that it is because there is help coming through the minor leagues. Have some of the couple of the the best prospects in baseball at this point list, according to graphs, but how long do you think it would be until you go into these new? You know, the twins are at least as good as the Indians are and we're ready to actually contend for the title. Okay. That was like a thousand points question. Whatever choose I'm guilty of doing that too. So I don't I'm play that. Okay. So I think they're moving in the right direction. I think the frustrating thing is that this year, they're just sort of content to tread water. But at the same time as you mentioned treading water might still be a pretty decent team in terms of when they can realistically overtake the Indians. I think a lot of that has to do with the Indians. But I would say there's a decent chance that this time next year. If guys have me back onto chat about the twins were at least talking about more of a neck and neck race at the top of the central. Yeah. I mean, they have Royce Lewis and outs care lawf- and grad rawal, they have quite a few high upside prospects, but I think they're probably wanted two years away, at least from a stab wishing himself this year that twins keep saying this is all about we need to find out if Buxton and sano are still worth building round they need to find out if if burritos can be a true, frontline number one starter. But yeah, I think this part of what's difficult in terms of. Of the local narrative here, which I am way too immersed. In is all the frustration that we talked about with not adding to the pitching staff and not spending competitively is separate from the fact that while they're still a pretty decent team. I think pagoda has them at eighty one wins. I think fan graphs hasn't met like eighty two or eighty three wins. I absolutely see eighty five. Plus when team coming out of this roster at this point. But I would argue that makes it even more frustrating that they didn't spend another fifteen twenty million to try to make it an eight win or are a ninety one young. Of course by the time. We're talking about with the twins are better than the Indians were as good than we may also be talking about whether the White Sox can enters discussion. So that's a problem from the twins respect of too. So, you know, the drill we always end with the wind. Total prediction, and you sort of anticipation that they're you said, you could see eighty five or more wins. But how many do you expect to see? Okay. I'm gonna say I'm gonna say eighty four wins. How about that? Right. And do you think that this core? The current kind of Kepler Buxton sano group of players will make the playoffs again. Or do you think it's going to take until the next wave the Lewis's, and Greta role and KIRO laughs come along. I think it will take to the next wave. But I think that I don't think it will have to. I don't think we'll have to wait as long as it will take for Lewis and care lav to be the best players on the team for them to make the playoffs. But I do think they will need their help to make the playoffs. I think it'll be you know, Buxton, obviously, Keppler employees encore going to be around for a while. I think sonoma's the one that is less likely to be around long term you add in Lewis and care live. Maybe in their second year. Let's say, and then I think that that's a lot closer to it consistent contended. I don't think you said yesterday when they're at all that's true. I mean, that's here's the thing. We joke about them. But our projections have missed like one of the ten best hitting catchers in baseball. All I suspect that Zimba skis zips projections are the same like I'm pretty convinced that he's not a butcher defensively. And so part of me wants to joke about him because he's such a just a fun personality. But part of me also wants to say like if you give him one hundred starts at catcher, I'm pretty sure he's going to push you towards the playoffs. And that I don't know. It's I feel like I'm on crazy pills. When I say that. But I'm starting to believe that more and more. No, I heard I heard from a team person not a twins team person. Either not too long ago. I just I asked what do you think of that has to do is like, well, you know, he's at least a top thirty catcher in major league baseball due to be starting. So anyway, long story short just go to Colorado. Give us one more prediction than what day does s the DO play his first game for the two thousand eighteen twins. That's going on. I will say may third and I'll say he ends up with more than two hundred plate appearances for the twins. Okay. Where will he play the most games catcher? But also a little bit of D H. I think will maybe a little bit of first base. I mean, he started a game in center field for them. And he started multiple games at third base and second base. So I don't even know like I feel like we've talked our selves into like the story. And then all of a sudden the story happened. And now, I'm not even sure like how to react to it. So now after this conversation, I'm fully on board. Let's maybe I'll go pick it outside at target field. I wanna miss the opening day starter. Let them play all nine positions on opening day. Listen to the grassroots people. Karen, Cleveland, the voice of the twins fans. All right. So that concludes our twin slash DO preview podcast. You can find Aaron writing baseball prospectus and in the annual which also edited you can hear him on gleaming. And in the end, you can find him on Twitter hearing Leeman. Thank you as always. Thank you. All right. So we will take another quick break. And we'll be right back with Gelb. The to talk about the Phillies. All right. So we are back in MIR. Joined now by the Phillies beat writer for the ethic. Matt gal. Hey, matt. So I guess we should just get the inevitable out of the way here. I think with most teams in most winters, you might look at what the Phillies have done and say, hey, they've been active, and they made a lot of moves. They signed inter cut chin. They traded for JT real they signed David Robertson. They just extended or Nola good job Phillies. But no one really seems to be saying that right now because we're all waiting for the Harper or Machado move or the Harper and Machado moves. So why hasn't it happened yet? What are the odds that it will happen? If it doesn't happen will John Middleton be burned in effigy. Even without the gene cigarette trade. I mean, they they have had right? A great offseason. And that's not you can say two things that they've had a great off season. And that it's not complete yet. And that's because the market has really I think shaped up in their favor. So what's going to happen? I I don't know. And anyone who tells you they know is lying right now. I think this like why pick. Taken so long the players wanna sign on their terms and the teams wanna sign the deal on their term. I mean, that's kinda simple as that. I mean, it's not to diminish like all the work that goes into the Goshi shins and figure out where the best fit is. But I think that's where we're at right now. I think it's just kinda stare staring contest between you know, all these sides. And I think the Phillies view themselves as being in a in a position of strength right now. And that no whatever offers they've made their they're just gonna kinda stick with it. And and hope that somebody blinks on the players side. They're hoping that try to get more teams involved and hope that maybe the Phillies or another team blinks too. So I think that they will sign one of these guys I don't know which one is going to be I don't know when it's going to be I think it'll be before opening day. But I don't know maybe hot. I think they're going to land one of these guys. I mean, they the way the market is shaped up, you know, a year ago, we would've never would've never predicted the market would have gone this way. I think the Phillies, you know, could could stand benefit from from how it all went down. And and I think I ther harbor Matata will be on this team and would cap what would be, you know, a really momentous Aussies for them. I mean, they have gotten substantially better in my opinion. Yeah. Do you think one of the two makes more sense or would improve them more just from a talent or positional perspective? And and if they don't lend one of them for whatever reason do think Phillies fans will revolt or will they be able to look at all the other moves and save. Hey, we got better this winter, even without one of those guys, I think Philly's fan would reveal and, you know, why I mean, you know, it's because you know, the expectations were raised pretty high mean it was beyond the words of John Middleton. I mean, you know, the Phillies have been looking at those offseason for a long time. I mean, it was. You know, Manny Machado and price. Just didn't come freedoms. I dunno where I mean, they had targeted this off season as time to really start flexing their financial might and they have. I mean, look they sent I think the second most region dollars last off season. I think they're, you know, they're in the top five maybe top three this off season even before possible, you know, high money finding in one of those guys so they have flex their financial might I think given the way last year ended and the way, you know, expectations where this off season, and the fact that the market that they're competing for all we know against teams like the Padres and the White Sox for these players. I mean, yeah, I think people would be upset if they didn't sign one of them is that fair to the Phillies who you know, have had a really good off season. I I don't know. I mean, I think they should sign one of them. I mean, they have the payroll do it. They have the you know, they have the roster flexibility to do it. And I think that me more than anything is what is impressive about their off-season. They made all these moves signing traits and not once they compromise. Is really, you know, they're flexibility. I mean, they are sitting here making all this moves that we talked about and still Bryce Harper and Manny Machado fit somewhere on the roster who's the better fit. I think just positionally because he third base. He'd be an elite defender an elite offensive player. You know, Manny Machado is probably the best baseball fit. Is he the best fit period for franchise city? I don't know. I mean, people are constantly debating, you know, his his hustle, his attitude, and I it's not for me to jump into that. I don't know what kind of teammate is by all counties, terrific teammate. I don't know how Manny Machado or Bryce Harper would respond after getting a a major contract. They these are things that they are considering and when you're talking about a contract of this size, and this kind of dollar value, you know, sometimes more than baseball things factor into it. And that's that's part of it. I mean, those extra variables you know, could influence decision, but look Machado might be a better position fifth. But. For to. I mean, they they haven't outfield the hell down right now by Nick Williams, who has had a, you know, a decent started major league career. But he could you know, they could easily upgrade there. And then they would roll Andrew mccutchen and newborn Harare slash Roman Quinn and possibly Bryce Harper. So there there's there's a fit for both these guys on the roster. I guess we're just gonna talk about these two for the entire segment that we're doing here. But you know, now now that players have reported to camp beard, you're down there. It's one thing you try to as a team you try to get moves done during the earlier part of the offseason. So that you don't end up in this position where everybody on the team knows that the Phillies are in pursuit of many Machado or Bryce Harper. But at the same time now everybody's together. You've got Michael Franko Scott Kingery out there playing to win third base. You've got a dual Harare Nick Williams Roman Quin trying to win two spots in the outfield. I know maybe this is sort of soft subjective question. But what is the mood now with players in camp trying to win jobs when at least. Certain segment of them know that if it was their way, those players aren't going to have jobs in front of them anymore. Yeah. It's weird. I mean, there's no way around it. It's a weird dynamic and the players are. Well, this whole thing like they know that they could wake up one day, and that's their bosses have have hired a replacement for them. So it's it's it's weird. I mean, this usually happens before everyone gets the camp, and you know, you can make it a much less personal transaction. I mean, you, you know, the these transactions are hard for teams 'cause you're you're you're you're training people or you're replacing people it's harder when you're going to have to face to face here in spring training. So it's a it's a weird dynamic. You know, I mean like everyone's saying, well, we're, you know, we're going off you something that we rosters here. We have our full roster. But you know, nobody truly believe that. I mean, everybody knows that that replacement could come into camp any day. And you know, I I've heard scouts and I've heard people say in the baseball before one spring you're playing for for twenty nine other teams too. There's always somebody watching and that, you know, even if you're on the edge of a Roth. Or that just because you don't think you might make this roster doesn't mean you won't make another Rosser and that can serve as motivation for guys. But I I don't know if that's enough motivation. So to talk about something other than Harper Machado earlier this week. We did the Diamondbacks preview and we talked about the late season collapse. And what it meant if anything and Scillies, of course, ended their season in a very similar fashion. So what was perceived to be the culprit for how they finished was it just a a lack of strength on the roster that got exposed guys getting worn down. Was it a failure of leadership and did any of the analysis of how that happened impacts? How they went into this winter. Yeah, I think if I were to put the blame on one thing, it was just, you know, the roster was kinda held together, you know, with rubber bands for of the season. I mean the pitching starting pitching was remarkable for the first three or four months season. And they were doing it despite just horrific defense behind them and inconsistent lineups warning. Them and the defense never got better the lineup. Never got in starting pitching really wilted in August and September and everyone else out of our no of you know, just had a rough a rough finish the season. And you know, it was too much to expect the starting rotation to simply carry the team all the way. And almost did. I mean, that's kinda amazing. They wanna eat a game. They had a fourteen win improvement. You know, despite you know, depending on what defensive metrics, even if you just use your is one of one of just worst defense is we've seen in the last decade and inconsistent lineup. It's amazing to me the one eighty games last year and really is. And so, you know in their post mortem all this. I think they looked at the defensive somewhere they need to improve. And and I think they have improved. They're gonna big out Hoskins back to first base out of the Andrew mccutchen who was obviously not a center fielder anymore, but know should be good in a corner. Spot especially corner spot. That's says Bank car they picked teen score. Who is not a superstar defender, but he is at least average. To above average. And that will be upgrade over as drew Cabrera and got king ridge, which is really what they use for most of last season. So they they have gone better defensively they picked up real new toe. You know, who how far showed terrific games defensively last year. But now, you you fought in a guy who is the best if you know, one of the best catchers in baseball, and and a terrific defender. So they prioritize the defense. And that's why there were questions about not upgrading to starting rotation. They believe that a defensive upgrade is almost up to the rotation right now. And we'll see if that logical. I suspect that come July. You know, they could be on the trade market looking for some rotation help. But we'll say, so let's talk about that real military for for few minutes here because they did pick up the guy who seems to be the best Gagarin baseball at this point. I when I when I wrote about real modem in the case for him being the best in baseball. I realize afterward like, oh, I think people already know this actually people recognize that he is a he's blossomed into an excellent dollar catcher. And there is. Interesting divergence, I think that when you looked at how the trade was received publicly, of course, whoever wins a trade sweepstakes, just like whoever wins a Fredin. Sweepstakes will be the the high bidder and publicly there was a lot written about how the Marlins did a great job and the Phillies gave up too much. But then there was also a lot ridden citing industry sources saying that at least around the game. A lot of a lot of front office and executives were impressed that the Phillies we're able to get real motive for as little as they gave up. So where where do you think the the difference Independen is coming from? And how do you evaluate giving up far when and Sanchez and Stuart given some of the price tags that were talked about earlier in the season. So it's a I think it's a fascinating trade in cop out to say that both you said really well, and I think both teams did I mean both teams are in different cycles right now. Come Marlins are rebelling cycle, the Phillies are no longer rebuilding cycle. They they have different priorities and this trade pill. Both those priorities. I look at the straight. I think it's really. Interesting because I described this trait as being risky, but that doesn't mean that doesn't mean it's a negative thing. I mean, the risk that Philly's got back as minimal JT Romeu as his very worse will be one of the best pitchers in baseball for the next two years. At least I mean, I think they hope to extend them eventually, but you know, the risk. There is pretty minimal barring injury and stayed relatively healthy. He's been productive. When on the field Sabar for a above our catcher is lower than ever right now, basically baseball. So I think there is no risk there. But the risk that they gave up significant and the chances though that farro and six oh senses fulfill their potential is is limited. I I understand that completely. I think I I'm a big way off argh. I think he's going to be really solid catcher in a major leagues for a long time. But his profile is out of high risk does not put the ball in play. He has shown defensive improvements still struggles and some basic areas six oh Sanchez, if he fills us attention. He's the top of the rotation. After you know, one of the maybe one of the better pitching prospects in baseball. But there are questions about his questions about his secondary stuff their questions about their ability. And whether he's even a starting pitcher, you know in a few years, so risky trade. I describe it. I mean, I just got it for lack of a better term. I it was ballsy and fall doesn't necessarily mean a negative thing. I mean, I think when you're in a position that Matt clinic was in it was time to cash in on things. And if you're gonna cash in your top pitching prospect at DC catcher, you wanna get the very best. And and I do think say graded JT realm. So so much better than any other catcher in baseball. That's why they viewed this as as a trade that that they had to Gabe Kappler's, always going to be a lightning rod, and he is obviously come up for a lot of criticism this off season because of his actions or inactions few years ago as the dodgers player development director. Do you have any sense of whether the Phillies are at all concerned about his actions there in his defense. Of those actions and even apart from that. How would you say he held up in his first year as manager after being kind of a controversial choice and initially rubbing Fens the wrong way or having some embarrassing en- game instances, but seemingly settling down as the season went on. I don't know if the podcast long enough about. About. First year. I mean, he the complicated. Figure is a complex figure is fascinating. And with regards to the first part of the question by understanding that affiliates. Have have no concerns. I mean, they they went through a pretty rigorous vetting process from what I understand through major league baseball through the dodgers before hiring Kappler, and these issues had come up, you know, they were not aware of sexual assault allegations. You know, there were documents that showed that that no one of the daughters was and still a week or two after the incident. It's it's it's complicated. You know, I think there's are certain credibility issues that are play. You know, Gabe has to, you know, there are people who are or her questioning Gabe, and he asked to restore his credibility. And I'm not sure how one goes about that. Because you know, there there there should be. There are questions about how you handle these incidents and house. I think that he, you know, he he will he will have credibility issues for as long as he Scillies manager. I mean, he is a polarizing guy and people have good reasons, you know, to wonder about you know, some of the things he does or did in the path. And that's just that's always going to be the case. I think Philly's, you know, they may have properly vetted him and everything. But you know, they knew they had to have known getting into your when they hired him. I mean, he is he's a lightning rod, and it will only increase this year because you know, the expectations of have raised here. I mean, if they get too slow start with this with this Rosser this improve roster. I mean, there will be a lot of angry people in Philadelphia. And the first person they're going to point to we'll be gave tapper. I mean, I can already predict and it's very simple thing. He he is on Ozzie, and that's crazy to say for manager who was going into his second urine and inherited a team that had won sixty six games and improve them to eighty games last year, but he will be on the hot seat because he is who he is. And I'll say this about his season last year, he show in the Bill to adapt. I mean, the beginning of the season. Couldn't have any worse for a manager. I mean, he he had already the honeymoon's over before he stepped foot on his home field in Philadelphia. I mean after that first three-game series win when people were just and rightfully so. I mean, he had heating dates them some horrible moves and then bought in the pitcher who hadn't even warmed up yet into the second game of the season. I mean, it was just unbelievable. He showed an ability to adapt though. And I think he's shown some ability to adapt even this spring too. I mean, there will be some culture changes. I think there will be a few more rules than there were last year round the clubhouse, and he is a smart guy that anyone who criticizes him or who likes them. I think can agree on. He is very smart guy. He has different ideas. But he he is willing to adapt. And and I think that's going to be tested very quickly in this point nineteen season. I mean, they they have to get off to good start. I mean, there will be there will be a lot of calls for his job if they don't and fair or not that's just that's just what they got into here. I think everybody knows that. I know it was. Fascinating a year ago in spring when we saw the Phillies and Gabe Kaplan, experimenting with like moving from left field right field, depending on who is at the platen before the season actually got there's a lot of excitement around what Keppler might be able to do in. How the Phillies would implement different strategies and at the same time in the same spring training. There was a lot of excitement around Scott Kingery. I remember seeing a prominent national baseball reporter referring to Scott King reassembly being the best young player in any spring training camp or something along those lines implying better than Ronald with kunia better than one Soto better than whoever you want to say, I'm not going to go into detail. There's a lot of numbers that could read. But instead just use one educative bad, Scott King. Res rookie season was bad. He signed a long term contract. And then he played he was moved to shortstop, and he was bad. There was not seemingly a whole lot of progress. At least typically so moving forward. Kyrie's entering his age twenty five season. Got a good track record. He was good player in the minors. Obviously all of that excitement. That was their last spring can't have. Been completely destroyed or deteriorated so moving forward, I understand of courses Manny Machado signs than Kingery has to kind of move around. And maybe a path to playing time, isn't so obvious. But how is Scott Kingery stock looking now relative to one year ago, not as good? I mean, you're right. I mean, it was bad. I mean, he was just underwater from the very start at season any never never got above water. I mean, he really, you know, he he pointed out a couple of days ago, if he was looking at, you know, it's amazing. How many how often he was behind the counter? I mean, oh one too. I think he had the highest percent of otas town of any hitter qualify her here with at least porn plate appearances. He was constantly behind the count and pitchers began to him because they knew that he was taking the first pitch a lot. And he started to get his own head. Where's the stock right now? I think it's still using. It's not as good as it was last year and those comments about him. What do you like one of the best young players? And I mean, he was. We were Brian. He's been unbelievable for the last two spring. I mean, you really caught a lotta is two things ago when you know, when he was in his first big-league camp and you'll I think is pacifying sign than if they don't sign someone like Manny Machado will be supply all over the field. I still think they can find ways to get him in the lineup. Maybe four times a week. And if he does produce more than that for we. But look, you know, there were a lot of criticism last year when he signed that contract or other agents saying how how could he signed? He'll I think right now, you know, I think they still project him as being everyday regular at some point it probably needs to be a second base. At some point say are Hernandez second basement and had sort of up and down year, but has a decent trackers last year. So Hernandez is the guy there for now Kingery is going to be on the team. So he's gonna have to play a lot of position and he's walked up a little bit. But you know, he just has to have a better, I think mental coach at the plate. He he was just behind every pound and for. A young hitter. Rennie hitter that's impossible for young hitter. Tell and he really did go through that last year. In addition to all the player transactions. We've mentioned the Phillies have been very active this off season in hiring staff. Hiring coaches, they picked up unconventional hitting coaches and people from the Astros and sports science people. Can you shed any light on how they've tried to reinvent their player development and their coaching staff and sort of their information transfer process. This winter clock ran into rob second and Ed Lucas who to foreign players second who was playing last year in the minor leagues. And the dodgers system. They are now hired on the Phillies staff. They're minor league player information coordinators to kind of a clunky title, but their data coaches in the minors. I mean that that they started to do some out last year. Sample was the guy in the majors with sort of data coach, and they had another employee named Ben Worthington. The Orioles he was the Myrlie data koshen how they've added more data coaches and. They've tried to take a progressive approach. I think to player development, and they're not the only team that's done that this off season. They're most interesting higher. No doubt was a guy named Jason char- who came from Dr line. And he is the minor league hitting coordinator, he wrong. He is now in charge of the minor league hitting program. They are totally revamping that, and it will, you know, come with very database approach. I mean are, you know, built the hitting program at Dr line from the ground up. There were a lot of people who are interested in hiring him and major league baseball. There are a lot of people are trying to copy what did in Dr line and fired him. And it's gonna be really interesting to watch how they approach their hitting program. Because no their position player development hasn't been seller. I think they're pitching program as far ahead of their hitting program in the minor league side Raphael. Shabas has headed up that pitching program the last years, and he's done some really good work. With specially with some underside small bonus guys in the low minors. So they. They're taking a very data driven approach to everything that's obvious on the major league side with what Kappler has implemented even decision. They made pitching coach Rick Kranitz had been here for a few years. He was a respected guys very old school baseball guy and the Phillies let them go only. Because other teams wanted to hire the system pitching coach, Chris young, you know, who who was an advance scout for the Astros during their championship years years before that the system pitching coach last year and use very data driven guy. And then and they like what Christiane does and other teams liked it too. So they liked it enough to promote him to pitching coach and fire. Rick Kranitz who had done a good job here. The pitching was there last year? So it's very unusual to see, you know, change in pitching coach after the kind of year, they have pitching wise, but you know, they're they're all in on on on database development on on on database decisions at the major league level. They probably made more hires than last two three years, and they did and the previous decade. Fine. I mean, it's been that. It's been that swift of a change one of the young pitchers did emerge that pitcher development system last year came up made in immediate splash. Of course, was Sarangani Dominguez just reflecting on his numbers here when he came up in may case anyone's forgotten and may through thirteen two-thirds innings. He allowed zero runs he had zero walks and struck out fifteen batters also allowed just two hits. He was very good. And so during the first half of the seasons for the Dominguez was fantastic and immediate splash moved to the closer role. And then he kinda struggled a little bit down the stretch lost his, I guess, you could say release point as walks skyrocketed. And I was wondering is easy to look at the numbers and say, okay, well, moving forward, the real Saranda Dominguez is going to be somewhere in the middle of his first and second half, and that's cetera et cetera. But when you look at to make as you saw him up close and personal a lot of his pitching last year. What do you see moving forward? And it's real easy to look Anthony making say, well, here's a candidate to be the next Ed India's. But what what caused his his second half to be so much worse than. Than his first. And do you think that he has or is in the process of making the changes that are necessary for him to get back to pitching it as best? You know, Jeff, I think it boiled down to this. This was last year was his first full year as early ver-, you know, he had never pitched above high A coming into the twenty eighteen season. He had been in the high Clearwater rotation Florida state league in twenty seventeen. That's where you ended. They add to Adam to the forty man roster because he was rule five guy always had an electric arm. They made him a reliever last spring, and he was so good at couple a and then they had to bring them up. And I just think the workload caught up to he just was not used to the kind of back to back work that kind of two games and three days were through a full season. And it showed I mean in August and September he was really he was feeling it. I mean, I think he just he learned a lot about his body. I think he learned a lot about what it's like to be a reliever in the majors where it's like to be a reliever period, which something he hadn't done before that. And it is hard. I mean, it's. This is the different kind of mentality at different kind of training program. He was when the natural cut that comes on his fastball is a God given gift. I mean, there's just no other way to say it and as long as he can soar that pitch. He's got a great shot. He has an incredible arsenal. And I think, you know, with a little more knowledge about his role in the one more understanding about how a full major league seasonable. Penn is you know, you could see that guy that you saw when I came up you mentioned that. So he soap that the rotation will improve just because the defense will improve. And we know how good Nola is. We know who area is. Although we just recently learned that he was dealing with a knee issue SE's in head surgery to correct it. So perhaps there some improvement there. But you look at the lesser known players in that rotation Nick PETA, Vince, Alaska's eflin all those guys head giant gaps between their era and they're Phipps last year, which you can certainly a tribute to the defense at least in part. So which of those guys. If there's one who stands out seems poised to make the largest improvement or two maybe have more of an improvement in his superficial stats that makes people appreciate how good he already was. Donna, everyone talked everyone. Everyone has written Nick Bennett breakout season type story this off season. And because it's you know, it's impossible not to to to look at the numbers. And think that I mean he he showed a lot of growth last year during the season. I think you know, the numbers reflect that I mean, this guy they believe this guy is a really solid mid rotation starter, maybe even more than that. I I don't know if he's more than that. But if he's really solid number three them, then they'll take that out of the valuable piece and twenty nineteen major league baseball. I. The he's the guy. Yeah. I think he's the guy who is really, you know, his are may catch up to sort of the feeling independent numbers that we saw last year and strikes. A lot of guys out limits. Hard hit ball he pitched away from slugging last year. He didn't give up a lot of home runs. At least in the first half of the year. He is your your poster boy candidate for breakout season. You know, those three guys they need to them to hit, you know, they need to of the three guys out of that athletic, Alaska. It's really hip to be solid. Dependable guys every fifth day for this to work. And and you know, it's why I think you know, they've been tied to every starting pitcher trade market and the free agent market. They went after Patrick Corwin. They were outbid for him and six year deal. They will keep looking for stars. But I there stood fastener belief that that at least two and they think three guys will be reliable starters in the major league rotation. And I think they wanna see how those guys do with the improve defense before they make any other changes. And that's why I. Effect. A let it go into July before they make a move. If they do make a move in the rotation. All right. So we always end the segments by Eskin for a win. Total prediction now in the Phillies case, it's complicated. Because these are probably not the Phillies that we're gonna see on opening day or soon after it. So give us a current prediction for for the rest or as it stands now. And then give us also maybe a with Harper or Machado prediction. I don't know if the with Harper is the same as the with Machado, but you can get as granular as you like. Let's keep it simple. I'll say current Scillies drafter. I'll go with eighty six wins and Phillies roster with either Harper Machado. I'll say eighty eight wins. All right. So you don't think it's that huge of a difference or an upgrade if they get one of those guys, I do, and I don't I I guess I think I think the division is is going to be really good. I think that's part of probably playing into what I'm thinking. Here is that, you know, eighty eight you know, my win the division. 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11/06: Waiver Wire - Davis, MVS and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

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11/06: Waiver Wire - Davis, MVS and More! (Fantasy Football Podcast)

"Fantasy football today from CBS sports. Mail us at fantasy football CBS. I dot com. Let's hit the waiver wire. Back here at Ted everybody. You might have to pick one of three quarterback who have above the grief. Best matchups in fantasy talk about that one. That might be. I want what that might be Alex Smith made I want him. Yeah. There might be Baker Mayfield that you may want Baker Mayfield. I out of with Dave, Richard. And he'd coming Jaime. Zipper today show. Good morning, David. What's up everybody? What's up Ademi's or? You know? Waiver wiring gonna rock the vote later. That's exciting. Everybody vote. Do your patriotic duty. I've already voted for a head of you. Yeah. New York only voting twice. Good for you. Dave way to go. Hey, let's get right into it. Give me your top three waiver wire priorities for fantasy week Ted. I'm gonna go with Mike, Jack and Marquez Mike Davis is going to be number one. Jack Doyle tight end in appaluse will be up there for me and probably number three behind Marquez valve is scaling who appears to have a clear path to being the number two receiver in Green Bay R O S that means rest ABC's MVP. You're not gonna get a lot of argument for me on that list. I'll go Mike Davis number one MVS number two. I will go with Sarangani Miller number three. If you need a tight in this week, though is is Jack Doyle the one you're going to look at. There's only been one tight end with more than I think thirty five yards against the Jacksonville Jaguars this year. And that was Travis Kelsey jacker. It's not do it. Rob gronkowski. Did not do it. So Doyle does have that matchup. Whereas Ben Watson is at Cincinnati. They're terrible. Vance McDonald is facing a team that gives up the most fantasy points tight ends and Carolina and maybe Vernon Davis. If Jordan Reed is do we know what Jordan reached that as he he played at the end of that game? So we are ranking him if he was out Vernon Davis would be by far my favorite choice for this week is Vance McDonald available enough league's seventy five percents. Okay. So we're not going to consider him. Well, I consider those guys. I mean, I always put them in a separate category. The owned sixty five percent of leagues or more. And he might get dropped. 'cause he's not that good. And he has a bad game. Doyle's definitely the right choice because I think even if Jacksonville's defense plays. Well, he's going to catch five passes. I think is the best choice, regardless of format because of just how. As used in. What Indianapolis does they're going to lean on him. He's going to get some good volumes done it every game. He's played in. So he's far more peeling PR than non PR, but I'm going to go after them in both. Okay. So let's go through the news notes and just get everybody set up for the week here for teams on by an AJ green is out at least two weeks, but does not need toast surgery. Those two games will be the saints at home and the ravens on the road. Obviously Tyler Boyd is owned. Are you going to be looking to pick up John Ross guys? I think he's a worthwhile. Speculative ad. I wouldn't feel good about using this week. There's another tied him. We didn't talk about who. I think should benefit and he voided he let us down his last game. But CJ was alma. Mama. I think we'll see more targets this week as well. Who gave us a? Levian bell. Every time I say it, by the way, I don't know if mentioned for I close my eyes, and I built my head back. I say move you do when you do the regulate mount up. Yeah. Whenever I go to move for theatric. That's how I look at home. In the kids are driving me. Crazy, john? If you should have heard Dave do opet warrior today show. It was maybe my favorite podcast Bove it. It was great. You know, what I'm gonna have to cut that clip and make it go viral levian bell not expected to return this week. He needs to return by next Tuesday to sign the franchise tag the tender to be eligible to play this season. Do you guys think Levy bell is playing this season? There's a part of me that thinks he won't because he's going to challenge specific language in the collective bargaining agreement that suggests that just because he didn't play doesn't mean he loses a year of eligibility because he was tagged because he was designated. I think the whole thing is just ludicrous anyway, but I'm going to say that there's like a twenty percent chance of that happening in an eighty percent chance of showing up and then not getting anywhere close to what we normally get out of Libya. I just desperately want a cut up of all of the hangs. That have been said about lady I'm Bill on this podcast starting back in like August. When Dave I raised the possibility that we don't know for sure that he's going to show up, and we should give Dave credit. He was the first one to say that and just responses from that point forward every time Adam asks the question Levy on Bill all the things that have been said he'll be back with promises made that he'd show up before the start of the season. There's been reports and. We feel optimistic about it. And that you should trade for it's the truth. Is that no one really knows what lemons plan is. I don't know if on knows what his plan is. But the fact that he left Miami is going to make people believe that now he's on his way to Pittsburgh eventually and he's going to rejoin the team eighty percent chance of that happening. Just don't know. Exactly win. Yeah. Well today time, maybe he's fixing a lot wants to get out of the sun. You know? Come up to the north. It's beautiful up here. So Sony Michelle likely to play this. Oh, wait. That's what I was going to say this other thing if you have levian bell in an I R spot. That's should know. How many questions have we gotten about that recently? Hey, somebody's got on there. I are spy commissioners step up. He can't be on our. He's not injured. I think the problem is that there is another website that of course, is not as good a CBS sports that allows that I know, but don't let don't let your league do it. It's well, I think there are a lot of leagues on that particular website that may just be hosted by the site, and they don't cost any money. And there is not a Commissioner. I don't know how it works. Is that run by the site? Well, still don't let it has not right Michelle likely to play this week that and you won't be picking Cordeiro Patterson. I will not be picking up running back slash wide receiver. Darryl Pederson Jordan revealing with neck and back issues. But we just talked about that Bruce Arians said he would consider the Cleveland job. That'll be fun. I was told he now he's saying it. But at one point I checked in on it. And I was told by somebody that he wasn't interested in coaching. And so it's interesting that maybe his mind changed a little bit. Maybe gotta look at Baker Mayfield did see him up close last week. Maybe gotta look at John gruden's contract. Hoffy awful for a year or two and get paid a hundred billion dollars. You know, he might settle for ninety five. Yeah. Well, I should sit out for a full decade, then get get that kind of money. The Redskins had a rough weekend lost at home to the falcons. They lost both of their starting guards for the season. And starting wide receiver Paul Richardson for the season. They've been extremely injured this week. They might get Jamison Crowder back and somebody on that team is going to do well against Tampa Bay. But let's talk about Adrian Peterson and without both of his guards. And not exactly an easy schedule coming up. He's got some of the better defenses run defenses in the NFL upcoming on the schedule including week sixteen against Tennessee or at Tennessee. They've been very good lately. What do we think about Adrian Peterson right now how concerned are you? I think you missed your cell. Hi window, sorry for that. And I would still start him this week against Tampa Bay like his chances of getting into the end zone. But he's not going to be a surefire store to the rest way. I'll name some running backs that are ahead of him now on the trade chart, and this is certainly more. So because the offense line because of what happened last week, but Donald cook, leaps and bounds Linter for net. Leaps and bounds. David Johnson is still ahead of him Tevin Coleman. Now know if I'm really totally comfortable with it. But he's a head of Jordan. Howard's ahead of him to go ahead of them. Carry on Johnson is tied with him. This is a this is not a good situation in Pearson. But I do feel like the the sell high window is closed, but there's still a window open to just sell sell Mortimer sell that that's of window is still open. Listen, some Redskins wide receiver is catching a touchdown this week where he's ARIS you think it's it is he's the sockeye crowded. Touchdown probably goes to dachshund, but Harris will be the best received. There's no way dachshund can catch touched on two games in a row MAURICE areas. I don't believe has ever caught one of his career. It's tie. Chris Johnson retired. Chris Johnson in two thousand nine ran for two thousand yards had five hundred and three more receiving score three hundred and forty seven fantasy points in non PR that was better than Todd Gurley last year, but not better than tiger. Tiger early is on pace to be one hundred and one fantasy points better than Chris Johnson's two thousand yard season in non PR NPR, probably even more than that drama. Allison-made core muscle surgery. That's why would like Marquette Marquez Marquez Valdez scheduling so much Tom Brady says he wants to play into two thousand twenty two Cording to Peter King. So that's good for dynasty Dez Bryant worked out for the saints. I think Brandon Marshall did as well Marshall is gonna work out for Detroit if Brian ends up on the saints, which pick them up. No. Charles clay is out with a hamstring injury. And let's do the do you expects do you expect Marlin MAC against the Jags? Yes. Leonard for net at the colts. It looks like he is trending in that direction. He practiced on Monday Ronald Jones against Washington. No, Chris Thompson at Tampa Bay. Now. He's not gonna play. Sit. Right. Chris Thompson Naga. Correct. You answered it for us. Sammy Sammy Watkins he is going to put that -solutely Allen Robinson against the trip. Gabriel against the Truitt. Yep. John Ross against Orleans. CJ us alma. Yes. Right. And rob gronkowski at Tennessee. Email day, by the way, I do have a very brief team name Tuesday today, very pretty bad team name Tuesday coming up later Email today fantasy football CBS dot com. From von in DC, you often talk about fab bids in terms of percentage free agent. Aquisition budget is that percentage of remaining fab or percentage percentage of original fab. Well, I don't know how much fab you have left Bonn. So I'm just going to say it's the amount of the original. I will say it's the amount of your remaining, but look at you Vonnas left, and I know a percentage it's a ritual. It's original. So what if you only has one fab dollar left, then he's just been one hundred percent. Anyone I suggest that you don't actually say one hundred percent from this point forward. I will say percentage followed by a percentage if you only have one dollar left talk Casco like three hour. Well, let's talk then how much of your fab for Mike Davis. All of it. Well, what if you have one hundred left? What if you never spent a really bench? What percent really good job drafting come on. What if you fifty dollars left out of one hundred how much would you spend on Mike Davis? I would go twenty it. Okay. Here's that twenty percent twenty five dollars. I think Dave's number is good in just the vacuum. Right. That's what if I'm in a situation where I don't have a starting running back for this week. And I'm sitting at four and five or five and four all spent forty nine bucks on them. What if you only have thirty two they don't spend thirty one dollars on them. But the problem is we don't know that Chris Carson's out. No. But the Mr. optimist p Carroll said he does not expect Chris Carson to do much this week p Carroll is a filthy liar. So we think he's going to be negative whatever. Actually, there's nothing wrong. That's true. That's just my natural reaction anytime. His name is said, but the way he talked about Kris Carson and with Chris Carson reactivating and injury. Previously. Had I do not expect Chris cars high agree. I generally agree. But you never know and Mike Davis has been really good when he's gotten touches. Okay. So Carson got hurt last week we nine and twenty two touches more than one hundred total yards against the chargers. Go back to week four. Chris Carson did not play and Mike Davis at twenty one carries one hundred one yards two touchdowns and four catches for twenty three yards. Granted was a great match up at Arizona. And this is a this is a good and bad matchup. The Rams this week. That's Seattle's opponent. They allow four point six five. Yards per carry it a running backs, but you don't really run that often against the Rams they allow the fifth fewest rush attempts per game. That said the hawks ran all over them in the first meeting both Carson and Mike Davis scored twelve fantasy points in non PR Davis had two catches and the Seahawks are kind of one of those teams like the Browns that even if they lose by two scores. They're going to run it twenty five times. Right. Also Davis had seven catches against the chargers. And again, they were down by two scores. I think he's a little bit game script proof. Right. Okay. Okay. Amend my fab amount for Mike. Davis originally said twenty percent of the original fab, I'm gonna go higher. It's going to be like twenty five to thirty percent. I think he's what if you only have twenty eight then you're going to spend nearly all that damn amount. Yeah. But if let's say, I'm six two or seven two you need a running back. No. Let's say I'm good. I think I'm. More interested in vow. This can't link long-term. Right. Right. Right. And barry. Very interested in Marquette is about this Kanthi scaling. How about you guys? Like, he I don't know how much you have to guy you able to get him for fifteen to twenty percent of your original budget. What do you think? I don't know. I feel a lot different about the two of them. It's been the what position you need. I can see paying a ton for Valdez scaling. If you're really hurting it receiver. I don't want to fall into the trap because he's not getting a lot of catches. This thing is the second change. We are at week ten. Yeah. Most leagues have three weeks left in the regular season. Four. Ten eleven twelve thirteen. Sure that too. Yeah. I mean, he has three two and three catches in his last three games. But he's really producing with them. He has six five and six targets in those three games. But it could change and this market Marquez vowed this gambling. We're talking about forty four percent. I'd say he needs to be eighty percent of thoughts. That's all right. Sounds good to me at least if you had Larry FitzGerald Evaldas gambling on your waiver wire who you going for Larry definitely be or Larry Larry p p for sure. I think I'd probably take Larry overall just because of his situation, and the fact that his targets are higher right now than valves gambling's. He's not as fast, clearly, but the volume is going to help them out. Okay. Email the day number two. Hey, Matt, Mark, and John Matt Mark and John. Those biblical those are bears coaches. Okay. Could also be Chicago. That's biblical. I'm in a few keeper leagues, I've got several people wanting to trade for James, Connor. I wanted to know assuming levian bell was elsewhere next season. Where would kinda rank and you're running back ranking's top five. Yeah. I mean the track record for Steelers running backs in fantasy football is amazing. And James CONNER has been playing amazing. He really has. Yeah. He is a first round pick in two thousand nineteen drafts. He is only averaging one fewer yard per game. That sounds awful. If you're less fewer less than Todd Gurley. Real one thirty six point six James Connors at one thirty five point six. Wow. So he might end up being number two overall. Could you see? Well, we've got saquon. We've got green bonds. 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If you've got girly get Malcolm Brown. If you've got Kareem hunt get Spencer where if you've got James Connor get Levy on bell. What other great amazing running backs? Would we want to wear? He said that he said I was doing the, Dave. Totally forgive you. I think it is. But. Only for certain teams. I think it's only for handful running backs that have a good running back behind and I meant only for certain fantasy teams because like we've got ten teams on a by over the next two weeks. And if you've got a team that's five and four four and five there's a good chance you knew that benchtop or something else. Yeah. You know, I was talking to a French talk fantasy football. He said I pick up Malcolm Brown in his leagues, and he has an own tog early. It's not a bad idea. If you've got the roster spot, you can pick up another handcuff because I think Brown would be great. If he didn't want to say, I don't want to say, but he would be great. What about Steven Ridley, by the way for the Steelers for the James Caan Roederer? I believe the last two weeks. Stephen Ridley has zero carries and Jalen Samuels actually has four. That I don't know if that means that if kinda were to miss time that Samuels would get all the work. I don't think you get all the work. But I don't think they would split. And that's Lebanon's not even in the picture. I wouldn't I wouldn't sweat the James Connor handcuffing until we have a definitive answer on Levy on bell someone willing to week. Someone said to me I have Trey Burton and one of our listeners emailed us trae burden Zakar tes, should I drop Zakar tes for Dallas Goddard. And I said, yes, no, I'm sorry. I drive this phone. I dropped trae Burton for Dallas Qatar. And I said, yes because I think you're starting to it's every week burns. Not that good. If earth gets hurt I think Goddard's better than burden, and that's an interesting thing. If you own you probably own Zakar, it's in another tight end because you just picked up a tight end for your by week. Do you handcuff him with with Dallas gutter? I would probably keep Burton if that was my second tight end because a you could probably trade him and be you may need it as a flex. Okay. Could be scenario. But. I don't know. You know, it's not just running back that should be handcuffed. You know, if you have an elite wide receiver, and you have an opportunity get maybe the second wide receiver on that team. Not a bad idea. Yeah. I just think the urge forgot her move doesn't make a lot of sense, especially now the golden Tate's on the team. I just think Philadelphia would keep Goddard's target volume light to moderate, no matter. What happens this year sneak peek at the waiver wire we'll get into it more in depth later. We talk about. Sunday night dud? I'd call it definitely a bonanza fail and the Monday night game, which Ephraim fantasy purposes is actually a lot more interesting. Just fantasy purposes not for actual football purposes sneak peek all right quarterbacks who we're looking at this week. I think Baker mayfield's about as good as it gets there. There isn't the silver bullet guy like Ryan Fitzpatrick. Andy Dalton would have been someone that people could have gone back to and picked up but losing AJ green, just crushing. He's to. I owned people held them through the by. He's over seventy percent. I I don't have a quarterback in my top fifteen that's owner in less than seventy percent of leaks. Right. It's not a great week to a we. I will argue over who the number sixteen quarterback is for me. It's Blake portal's. Yeah. No. I mean, look Bortles Russia's for like forty are. He's on pace for over five hundred rushing yards this year. So there is that. And he's been a lot better than Baker Mayfield. Are we sure he plays for quarters? No three. I think that the colts defense is chasing. I'll get into it a little bit more. But three the last five quarterbacks face. The colts have scored thirty three to thirty five fantasy points and six point per passing touchdown leagues plus Sam darnold Twenty-one fantasy points. So the three good ones. Great ones where Watson Brady and car. All right. Yeah. You know? Honestly, like, I'm a little I'm not there yet. But Mario to they can't they came out of there by they got rid of Derrick Henry, basically, they're using the on Lewis more Corey Davis should have had a really good game Marianas widely available and the play the patriots piqued my interest. Piqued my interest. Yeah, I'm always a little behind on my rankings of the guys that play on Monday night because the process that I go through. So I don't have a great feel for Mario is going to be. But he's going to be in that range. I would I would I would guess I'll have him ahead of Baker Mayfield. I running back. What are our priorities this week? Mike Davis has to be at the top of the list. And that's the top list for everybody. Not just the running back position. Anyone Duke Johnson if Johnson and Mike Davis are available ask the Suns? I'll ask it again who you going for. I'm going for Davis. I'm gonna go for Davis too. But it's a harder choice in PR. Because I do think that Duke has staying power after what we saw last week. And it's smart Browns did something smart right wide receiver MVS end who else. Anthony miller. Miller. What is with this? Anthony, Miller stuff. He can you can you get fifty yards before we get all excited about it at forty nine last week and you get sixty yards. I mean, I would just I would trust them this week. It's the slot receiver for the bears against the lion slot receivers have been crushing Detroit. And I would imagine that you can find the end zone this week. So as a buy week replacement at wide receiver, he he should fit the Bill. Maurice Harris another one had a ton of targets had nice yardage. If Jamison Crowder remains out. Listen, I Washington offense of line went from really good to really bad really fast, and Alex Smith is gonna have to get the ball out quick. And I think Christian Kirk. Yeah. Good matchup against Kansas City, going back to the running back real quick. I think we only gave two of them. I wanna make sure you to Smith sound. Okay. So we've said Baker Mayfield Bortles Mario to Mike. Davis do Johnson Edo Smith vow. This gambling, Anthony Miller Christian Kirk and MAURICE Harris. Yeah. We should probably mention Adam Humphreys as well two straight weeks of very nice production. Yeah. And there are suddenly too many mouths to feed in Tampa Bay. He's got eight or more targets in three straight games, Adam Humphreys, and seventy six or more yards and three of his last four games. And he will get the Redskins this week. They've allowed double digit fantasy points in non PR to at least one wide receiver in. Seven straight games. That's more likely to be my Evans for sure but Humphries getting the targets lately. Okay. Tight end. It's not the worst dreaming week for tight end in my opinion. Especially if if ants McDonald's available, but who we okay Doyle, always said Doyle rules, then Watson would be next. Who's on would be up there? Jeff Hier men had a lot of targets. You can't use them this week, though, you're probably looking at waiting week to pick him up. The I'd go Doyle, then then Watson after dole. It's just not great then Vernon Davis. If if Jordan rita's out Vernon Davis Vernon Davis had four games last year with more than five targets in three of those four games. Head sixty seven or more yards and in the other gaming caught a touchdown. So he did respectively for sure. And he seems to be doing better with Alex Smith this year. Also, we'll talk about Chris heard and heard and led the team in receiving last week. Oh, DST's charges the huge priority. They could win you week. Not just victim up last week. Not just them. But J T S against the BI L S is. Yeah. Jets versus bills any other DS's, you might be focusing on. Packers are interesting. They're taking on the dolphins and get right game at home. The bills defense is taking on the jets. That's not the worst matchup in the world. I don't think that's a game. We're both teams will walk in thinking. They can win. I know that heath mentioned the forty Niners. I think on Friday and beat the waiver wire Monday night against the giants. They have had two good defensive games in a row the Niners. The but for the most part they've been dreadful this year. Which is why the chargers are just so attractive because we're talking about. The Packers defense has been awful this year. The jets don't have a good defense. I mean, these are not the teams you want to rely on. So chargers are going to be by far the best jets have been one of the not a bad scoring defense. Right. Well, early in the year, they a great game against the lions. They I think they had a touchdown each the first two games. Maybe. They had to in week one. They've had some good games. Yeah. Yeah. They might be close to getting Tremaine Johnson back in their secondary. And that would save allies. Both are outside cornerback spots might give them the courage to blitz a little bit more and that would certainly help their matchup against buffalo Buffalo's defensive scoring different in different leagues. With the league. I'm looking at here. The jets are the number six defense and fantasy points this season. It doesn't surprise surprise me with their last three games one point against Minnesota four points Chikako than sixteen at Miami. But the match ups. Oh, good bills are the best match per DST's. Kickers. Jamie's got Robbie goal. Jake Elliott out of Viteri. Mike badgley on their Lambeau is my favorite. Lambeau is at the colts. Okay. And I d do have any. I d I do not have any ID. Okay. If you wanna give me some time to look them up. I will. Sure. Yeah. That'd be great New England thirty one Green Bay seventeen. Yeah. Bonanza fail. So look at the stats for Aaron Rodgers. He is on pace for his most it ever more than five thousand yards. He's never had a forty seven hundred yards season. So now he's on pace for five thousand yards. That's all great. But only thirty touchdown passes. That's his pace. He's played eight games only two interceptions. That's that's a sixteen game pace. But lowest completion percentage of his career. Almost identical to two thousand fifteen when Jordy Nelson was hurt. Anyway, if you told me that Aaron Rodgers is on pace for the most pass attempts and most yards of his career. I would think he'd be blowing away the competition. He's like twelve in points per game. Yeah. If you look at Aaron Rodgers, I think there's one thing that really matters in terms of his bad air quotes fantasy season. He has never had a season in his career. With a touchdown percentage of percentages. Throws the gopher touchdowns below five point two percent. It is four point six percent and zero point six doesn't sound like a lot. But it kind of is when you're talking about six hundred pass temps over the course of a season. So there there's a lot to like here. Right. I mean, we're very optimum. I'm we gotta be optimistic about air Rogers. Right. Oh, absolutely. Number one quarterback this week. Aaron Jones that fumble man was the biggest player in the game. But it looks like he's claiming the job thoughts. Yep. That's pretty much. What what we thought? It would be after they traded time Gumri and what it's going to be moving forward. Okay. Any other Packers thoughts? No, no. We kind of covered by the scaling already. Josh Gordon had five catches one hundred thirty yards in touch. Ten targets Julian an-and also at ten targets. So he's at seven more targets in every game. I believe and he had six catches for seventy one yards. So he's been he's been dependable. And you can. And he was started in eighty eight percent of Gordon was only starting seventy percent of lease. Who do you like better, Gordon? Renton recipes in completely format defend for me. I'll take Gordon and non and I think it's also matchup dependent at least this week. It is for me. I like, Gordon better. Definitely not PR. Don't remember how I have the original raking this week and peop- Yar I will probably say Ataman just play it safe. But they will be close. Do you feel the same way about Brady as you do about Rogers because Brady's actually been worse on a per game basis? The Roger he's been worse on a pre-game basis, and they're going to get Sony Michelle back. So you know, that they'll try and continue to run the football successfully they did it with Cordell. Patterson Sony, should be a better running back than court Dera what a sentence. I never thought. I'd say anything like that. Brady's stock is falling. Just a tick. Remember, we're in a year where there are a lot of really great quarterbacks. Putting up a lot of great fantasy points and Brady peace not asked to throw a bunch and he doesn't have rob gronkowski catching touchdown passes. He really isn't as amazing as he was previously. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. And let's go to the second game. Tennessee Twenty-eight, Dallas fourteen Tennessee had the ball for thirty four minutes and twenty six seconds, Sean Lee left with an injury in the third quarter. I don't know if he came back. He didn't look like himself in this game. Anyway, now, they haven't been a disaster without Sean Lee. But they haven't been haven't been great against running backs without Lee this year. So anyway, Mario twenty six percent owned gets the patriots. Nobody. Well, no teams throw a lot of the patriots. But the patriots actually very good on a per attempt basis. But who are you more excited about Dion Lewis or Aaron Jones? I wanna give some props to the titans for doing the right thing coming out of the by and leaning more on Dion Lewis as their primary running back. I don't know how long it's gonna last four. But let's enjoy a while we can. And I think the on Lewis is the better certainly PRN probably non ahead of Aaron Jones. Okay. He was started in fifty percent of Lisi Twenty-three touches. And he led the team in receiving and it should he should have been a good day for Corey Davis. He's actually eighty percent owned. So you're gonna see him on some waiver wires ten out. Six catches fifty six yards and should have had a short touchdown. But Mario miss them. Yeah. It was really frustrating. Thank you. Everyone who reached out on Twitter and soul. The core. David sucks. I I still think he's gonna be really good. I wasn't sure what this game but moving forward. I still think he's going to be good. And I'm going to rank them to hyg in this. We I mean to be very average like nine yards per catch. It's not like he went out there and dominated. But he got ten targets. That's nice. What do you think about the Cowboys offense? The how much do you trust Zeki Elliott Amari Cooper? Will you? Will you? Trust him entirely. I would let him watch my children. Okay. He's on pace for almost three hundred carries and sixty catches which is about double his career high. He's on pace for more than eighteen hundred yard total yards. It's not as pretty as it once was but he's very involved in the passing game. That's good. Yeah. Kamari Cooper fifty eight percents started five catches fifty eight yards and a touchdown on eight targets. He was basically Corey Davis except he got the touchdown. Yeah. Had very similar stat lines. Six fifty six Davis five for fifty eight four Cooper. Well, I really have to ask you rather have recipes and Cooper Davis scooper. He they're really close. I would hate to have both on the same teams. I'm not sure you'd ever start the right one. Do you think this is the start of something big for Marco or the start of something average for market? You know, what I like no one likes seeing the Dak Prescott interception in the first half through to Mark Cooper when he was double cover. But Dax got in his mind the silver lining. Dak is going to look for Mark Hooper quite a bit. So he I don't think he's gonna get lost in Dallas. Like he did in Oakland. I didn't they're gonna make it a. Appoint every week to get him involved in the offense and he's got favorable matchups. Like he did against Malcolm Butler. He's going to he's going to do. Well, he put on some nice moves. He's going. He's going to get. Let's call. It a minimum of six targets week with some weeks getting closer to ten. Yeah. I I think that's probably true. I do worry a little bit that deck through into a tight window for the first time in his NFL. Career got intercepted. And you might not do that again. They I mean, they. They are not good eagles. Eagles are about to run away with that division. And I think they smashed the cowboy got to catch Washington. I will catch Washington Redskins are also not that good. They are pretenders Redskin Sunday night. Football believe eagles Cowboys next week. We'll not be close. We'll not be close. Any who I think we're done with with that game. You know, what giving Dion Lewis the ball smart giving Aaron Jones more work than Jamal Williams. That smart throwing an interception in the end zone. Absolutely. Not smart deck Prescott was not using ZipRecruiter. When he made that decision. Ziprecruiter is the smart way to hire. 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Ziprecruiter dot com slash f f t that ZipRecruiter, the smartest way to hire. And here we go to the waiver wire quarterbacks there are three quarterbacks who are in more than sixty five percent of leagues that I wanted to ask you about Alex Smith is at Tampa Bay. They allow the second most fantasy points the quarterbacks they've allowed exactly twenty four fantasy points to three straight quarterbacks Mayfield Dalton and Cam Newton. That's Alex Smith at Tampa Bay. Andy Dalton six games without AJ green two years ago. He scored fourteen twenty five twenty ten fourteen and fifteen fantasy points. Six point not good average two hundred forty one yards seven touchdowns. Two picks in. Six games, but he's got the saints and they allow the most fantasy points to quarterbacks Alex Smith Andy Dalton or either of them cracking your top fifteen this week. Dalton is number fifteen for me this week. So if he was available I would prefer him to Blake Bortles. I don't think he's going to be great. I don't think there's a ton of upside. But I don't think it'd be terrible either. I can't stand Eli manning. I've got him right of both. Okay. And just throw it out there. Ryan Fitzpatrick is eighty six percent on C must own player. Ryan star player ton against the Redskins and the Redskins, really. They're run defenses. Awesome. Their past the fence, probably got expose a little bit. Well, they couldn't tackle anything last week. Well, we'll see if they can tackle Adam Humphries. So the priorities that are only less than sixty five percent of the Baker Mayfield. Is he number one for everybody on the waiver wire Mayfield swimming? You can't get your mitts on Fitzpatrick than. Yeah. No. Who would prefer Bortles laurels? I would prefer Dak I would prefer Morio photos deck and Mario over mayfield's. Okay. I we have not deck. We actually didn't talk about Prescott in the waiver wire segment of the eagles. Pretty good at home Cam. Newton's the only quarterback with more than sixteen fantasy points in Philadelphia. For what that's worth like we have been excited about this upcoming stretch of schedule for Baker Mayfield for. Ever since he became the starting quarterback and mostly he's just laid an no I wouldn't say that he had twenty one fantasy points last week. He had twenty four fantasy points three weeks ago at Tampa Bay. So he he hasn't been great. But he hasn't been terrible. I like that. It's a decent matchup. He's at home falcons on the road as they match up. It's amazing James Winston ally. Manning Alex Smith last three weeks against the falcons, all three of them through for season-highs. Yep. And now do Johnson's going to be involved. That's another great outlet for him for completions and yardage. This could end up being baker's best game of the year is maybe the fourth straight week was and he just had a couple of decent. We had his best game of the year three weeks ago. And he had his second best game of the year last week. He really hasn't been that bad. But he has I understand why you're hesitant because he hasn't been that good winning. You week is anybody anybody winning you week though on the waiver wire, I don't know. You're looking for someone who can get you by while. Joe flacco on by. Hey, what about Nick Mullins? These two percent owned. Turn back into a pumpkin. The giants are gonna turn them back into a pumpkin. I think a lot of it had to do with the fact that he was taking on the raiders on short. The giants are not good. But they're defensive the eighty five bears compared to the rain. At least we'll play with some semblance of pride. They will try to cover. Someone any interesting. Josh Rosen at the chiefs. No. Okay. And David like Eli manning this week is thirty percent on. I do. I do. I think just coming off the bye. And the forty Niners defense isn't as good as Derek Carr made him look last week. I think that connecting with Beckham shepherd Ingram Barkley will help ally man and get palatable numbers, I do feel better. I mean seven out of nine quarterbacks to face the Niners have scored twenty or more fantasy points in six point passing touchdown. So that's good enough for top fifteen finish most weeks and the two that didn't reach that twenty fantasy points where Josh Rosen and Derek Carr and then Rosen in his second game against the Niners. Did do it twenty three fantasy points. So you know, manning actually has San Francisco this week and then Tampa Bay next week. Just saying. Yeah. Okay. Running backs running back so Mike Davis clearly the best. But let me ask about these guys that might be on some waiver wires Doug, Martin Jalen Rashard star with them. They're okay. I don't know. How many weeks we're gonna see Doug Martin with fifteen plus touches the with the raiders defense point the charges? Run defense did not look good at all. They were getting gashed by Seattle early and often last week retard might be the charts better and PBR. But both these guys are number three types. Yeah. I don't mind Martin as a low in number two and non PR, and you just hope he's the touchdown. And I don't mind Rashard as a low in number two, and they both have looked good. But Suming, they're smart way. Zooming. The dow's. I'd rather start Mike Davis over both these guys in either format. Royce Freemen's on a BI. But he's seventy three percent own is now the time to get Royce Freeman or you not really that interested not really that interested Philip Lindsay's turned out to be the best running back there. It's gonna stay that way. When Dell small would is sixty six percent home. Would you rather have windows Smallwood or thirteen percent own Josh Adams? I think I'd still rather have Smallwood Jamie was here he would say Josh Adams. He's very excited about it. Smallwood has been dominating playing time touches down work that might change. If Darren sproles comes back. We are probably looking at a situation where are going to be too many running backs in the mix for Philadelphia, and they had to golden Tate who will work as a quasi run game alternative for them. So probably know eagles running back is going to be great for you. Does do Johnson need to be owned in every PR league? He needs to be on every league. Definitely every PR league. I I'm not so sure that he's going to be that valuable. I think may be a lot like the Oregon as a fine. But as a bench guy who's better than THEO Riddick. Just in general and assuring with one other guy versus Riddick sharing with two. I'll take him on my bench and a non PBR sharing. But he had one carry last week. Well, he's sharing the field. Now. Listen, the falcons are the are Duke Johnson's matchup this week. They allow the most catches and the third most receiving yards per game to running backs granted they have faced Christian McCaffrey Alvin Kamara Giovanni Bernard saquon Barkley and James Connor. So that a tough schedule in that regard. But those guys except for geo have destroyed them passing game and any interest in Frank gore at Green Bay. No as a flex may be. But I think this game scripts going to be a lot different than the one. They just played. All right. So Mike, David's we love Elisa McGuire. Jamie likes Elijah McGuire a lot. I wish you were on the show to talk about why he likes choir and Josh Adams. What do you guys think about McGuire and Adams, I like them fine as as bench guys? I would much rather have Smith. I'd rather have you know, Smith rather small would. Mcguire. Played more snaps than Isaiah Crowell last week. And he dominated in the fourth quarter when they were down by one score. So the jets when they're playing from behind mcgwire's going to be the running back that fasteners could feel good about spot starting. I don't know if these going to be the next Duke Johnson or probably be closer to THEO Riddick than do John's McGuire. Yeah. Well, why are we saying that he's a pass catching guy? Why would he be able to lead the team in rushing he might be able to do that to a given week? But I think they still like L in that primary role who has more upside McGuire Adams, Josh bar. I. Yeah. I guess I'd say McGuire. 'cause I don't think there's a situation where Philadelphia gives one guy of majority of the work McGuire. Just needs a crow L injury to majority of curious. There is a situation where Philadelphia will give a guy the majority of the work, but they won't know it until after the games going, and they realized that one of their guys has a hot hand. Other running backs ITO Smith who talked about Cordeiro Patterson who's a wide receiver slash running back. But it looks like his like I'm not being of Patterson right because fourteen team or the league. But I do think like we hear from Adam Schefter that Sony. Michelle is likely to come back this week. It's still the patriots. It's true. Sure that's fair to say. And if it goes down if you picked up Sony Michelle and you've been struggling to get by running back while he's been missing time. Patterson is probably a stopgap. And now that you can use them at running back on CBS. It's not the worst thing in the world. And there probably won't be much competition to pick him up off waivers other running backs to consider Jamal Williams in what could be a blow out against Miami. Maybe get some work. You could score he can do shortage touchdown. And we don't know what happens there Jones after that fumble. We don't know that was late in the game. I think Williams was in on the next possession. Then I think they were throwing after that Capri bibs whatever it touches did score touchdown, but he's at Tampa Bay. And Rashad penny could be in line for you know, eight to ten carries. Maybe Rashad penny would be could be something like that. Alrighty. Would you wanna pick up Darren sproles interests there? I've got him in twenty six team league. Nice. So the deeper the league the more likely Darren sproles is worth picking up and it's half PR for running backs time for a quick and terrible round of team name Tuesday Kittle in the middle. But she got more MAC. I like that. Yeah. It's pretty good. I admire it all of a sudden all of a sudden. Yeah. And a nice autumnal Sneed. That's good. Have you seen that? Like, you looked at the list and realized man this is an awful week of team name Tuesday. But let's make sure we still do that a nice tumbles. Need is funny. Dilly, dilly. Okay. Why receivers? Yeah. Zeh three percent owned by. I'm surprised by that actually feel like sterling Shepard's going to score this week. Yep. Yep. I don't disagree with you. I think he's a pretty decent flex option. Low in number two. Maybe if drops shepherd or if you see him you might want to pick them up for this week. He gets seven targets every game. But just about every game. And that that means money time when you're facing the Niners, Larry FitzGerald, seventy eight percent on trae Quant Smith, tyrel Williams, DJ more. They're all sixty six to seventy one percent owned trick wants myth, Tiro Williams DJ or any of them must own. I wouldn't go as far as must own, but I would like to own DJ more entry gunsmith both. How can you go against Tiro nicknamed him? Well, I mean, I like it when he scores the touchdown. But the involvement in terms of targets hasn't been great. No. But he's he seems to be a target as a deep ball guy. And now suddenly in the red zone for good ole fill in the chargers offense. That is definitely potent. No matter what they decide to do. I don't think should be your first party. He might even be closer to your last priority. But if he's out there as a bench guy, I don't hate it. And they do play the raiders this week that helps that's not such a bad thing. He's probably here's what you do at them you sign up for fan duel. You get the bonus spill the lineup Tyra Williams. The first guy you put in your lineup this week. Okay. Fan with com slash EFI. Trick wants Smith is facing the Bengals who've allowed sixty eight yards or touchdown or both to seven wide receivers in their last three games. But you could see more running instead of throwing from the saints this week. I would you drop trick want Smith for Mark wiz Valdez skin'll. Yes. I would rather have MVP. I would hope that I had a worst player on my roster you'd rather envious than teak US. Yes. Take on Smith. Anthony Miller Christian Kirk Cordeiro Patterson, John Ross, we've talked about all these guys about MAURICE Harris. And Adam Humphreys, Jamie has Muhammed's the new on here. He's got the Browns on the road this week. He's sixty percent owned. He had four catches forty five yards. And also he had a touchdown called back last week sununu sixty percent own thoughts. Yeah. I mean, I think he's likely to outscore John Rawson Cordeiro this week. But it's just hard to get excited about having on your team with all the weapons they have. Lantra rather have Humphries? Humphries? All right brother of Adam Humphries. I was probably would rather have Marie Sarah too. I mean, I don't wanna believe in Adam Humphreys, but it's compelling evidence. Three at four games. Very good three straight games with eight targets. This is their slack guy. The thing about Adam Humphreys historically is eight targets per game for Adam Humphreys, would generally transfer it late to six catches for forty five yards and not a touchdown. Sure. I don't want you to buy into him thinking he's going to score one touchdown much less to but you can't ignore involvement. Okay. I have a bunch of the way that teams defend Tampa Bay. I would imagine they see more zone than anybody else in the league. I have a bunch of what about for you? And you tell me yes, or no what about David Moore? I still like David Moore absolutely seven targets last week. It just didn't come down with the touchdown which is done in his previous games. And. Against the Rams are going to need to throw a little bit. Okay. Mike williams. Touchdown her bus guy. I'd rather have David Moore. I'd rather have David Moore brother of Adam Humphreys, MAURICE Harris. All fun fact, but David Moore he actually has more targets than Doug Baldwin over the last four weeks. Oh, I remember when someone on the podcasts that got talked into having David moreover Doug, Baldwin, Michael guy last week, by the way, my going out. That's my guy, but he's going to be the number two receiver in Dallas, Dallas. A zipped up off. It's quite yet. So no, just oxen. I think he's probably going to this week. I hate to say it, but no, Paul Richardson likely. No Jamison Crowder if Chris Thompson and Jordan Reed both play then I'll lower expectations a little bit. But I think Josh Doxa probably going to score Antonio Calloway against Lanta. Sure. Danny Nola about throwing darts. Yeah. If we are excited and think the Duke Johnson nine target game is the new reality. And Jarvis Landry is not going to fall seven targets like you did last week. But he's going to remain a double digit target guy and Dave into jokers going to be involved. There's not any room for anybody else. It fifty one yards on five targets last week. Like could be a joke that suffers Callo AB you could just say, no, it's fine. Danny amendola at Green Bay. Yes. PP are only p are only. But yes, all righty tight ends. Do you wanna have MacDonald if he's available? Seventy five percent owned against the team that allows the most fantasy points too tight ends Carolina Panthers. I would rather have Jack Doyle, but he's my next favorite option. Okay. So Doyle one fans McDonald's for heath whose to for you. Dave Watson us. Probably go with us over Watson. That's a rest of season. Type of look I'm worried about Watson in a game. Where drew Brees just may not throw very much. Okay. Yeah. And Vernon Davis. We'd like if reroute us on the saints actually been very good against titans. Sixty with two tight ends. Chris Hearn and against buffalo. Hernan sixty six percent own led the team in receiving with four catches for sixty two yards on four targets. He had three straight games with a touchdown going into this. Previous game at Miami any interested Chris Hurn against buffalo. Sure. He's a nother streaming tight, and that you can look at to replace a a Chiral Rudolph who you might be without this week. So Tampa Bay allows the second most fantasy points tight ends that said if Jordan Reed plays. Are you starting him or are you? Okay. Dropping Jordan Reed. I would drop him for Jack Doyle. Yeah. That's fair. But not for whose use alma. Or for Benjamin Watson, I'm gonna. I I will let myself be suckered into starting Jordan Reed for one more week given the matchup. Given the expectation that Washington will a not be able to run the ball, very effectively or be give up on it. Quickly against Tampa Bay. I will think that he's a candidate for another one of those six seven catch games. And maybe somehow he gets discovered in the end zone. And do you have any interest in Seahawks tight end the net or Dixon? I'd rather have. I'd rather have been that too. But I'd rather have one of the other guys that we talked about. Yeah. I'd rather have. I'd rather have a sandwich at a great sandwiches today. Dave, would you have grilled chicken roasted red peppers tomato? Avocado and bossa MC. No. He can't leave yet. We have more to do. He's gotta go. He does. So we were to the sandwich portion of the podcast. We love the chargers the numero. Yeah. The jets the bills the Packers falcons. Could get some sacks that Cleveland say Packers. Yeah. The saints are interesting at Cincinnati without AJ green ES. They are good run defense their defensive play better as a whole. I'd say actually thought they did pretty well against the Rams last week only scored two fantasy points and of thirty five. Yeah. But I still think they didn't do that. I honestly like. It was a shootout against arguably the second best offense. I don't know. And then kickers we talked about Robbie goal. Jake Elliott, Josh lambo Viteri badgley? Jason myers. So we got a little time for emails and find some emails to my DP's. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Go for it. Couple of defensive lineman. Matthew Unidas with Washington has done while the past couple of weeks. He's available and ninety four percent of leagues. But maybe he's already owned in your ID. Jack Crawford is not his last games have been very nice for Atlanta. They've added him to their defensive line rotation. I've talked about Jerome Baker before he score blessed week, and maybe that'll be what kind of lights them up moving forward and the dolphins defense. Matt Jude on and in Baltimore John Brown is another linebacker that you can look at plays for the Tennessee titans. And then four pretty decent defensive backs TJ McDonald with Miami. Especially now that Jones I dunno where his mind was after he walked off the field last week Desmond king slack corner for the chargers has been getting some great numbers. Just in read for the Houston, Texas. And Kyle fuller for the Chicago Bears. All those defensive backs have been putting up some nice fantasy numbers Email from dago in Santa Barbara. I just receive an offer I would give Marlin MAC, I would get carry on Johnson. You want to keep back. Yeah. Man, I'm going to like Moreland MAC more on the weeks that he plays. But he's not healthy right now coming out of the by and has a terrible matchup this week. Does. He I don't know if it's so terrible. I expect Jacksonville's defense. Jacksonville's defense again because they're changing their practice because they're coming out of the by getting they were banged up. Well, but they were really more banged up in the secondary than they were in the front seven. I'm optimistic about Marla MAC Johnson. From a town in Iowa. Let's go with Boston. Okay. So he's a keeper league he owns Melvin Gordon. He was offered a trade give up Chris Godwin get Austin Eker, but the ones not but the one thing holding me back. It's god. When is a twelfth round keeper next year and tenth year after and you can keep subtracting two rounds. Do you have any other keeper guys that you would pick ahead of Godwin like Kaban, literally your only decent keeper you might be a twelfth round picnic? Peter. Yeah. That's true. I'm making the move. I wanna backup Melvin Gordon. All right. One more. We'll do one more trade from Dave David Saint Louis, non PPO what a trade mega-trade non PR league. Give up Todd Gurley. Brandin cooks and pain barber Todd Gurley Brandin cooks and Peyton Barbara get back saquon Barkley, Michael Thomas and Philip Lindsay, do it. Do it right now? That's deal. Let the straight chart says though, we're out of here everybody that was the waiver wire we'll come back with some fun stuff on Wednesday four you rock the boat.

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 Starting 9 Episode 121 - Mike Soroka

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Starting 9 Episode 121 - Mike Soroka

"Welcome back to starting nine jaw aw episode one twenty-one <hes> this episode almost didn't happen as as planned the barstool classic. Let me tell you some dallas as as a as a as a big leaguer. I can't imagine that you spend very much much time on a golf course. I feel like that's kinda commonplace though yes yeah yeah that's that's that's where he spent. That's where i was going to spend the majority of my days. You're that's that's where <hes> that's where early retirees are sent out to pasture. You go find a nice country club to become a member of an you. Show up every day and you look around going. I have zero fucking common people aside from the fact that we own golf clubs. What the fuck am i doing we gear with these people. None of them get high and if they do they're all on their on that buchan bugs and then he might train saying so. It's just yeah a very quickly not my demographic if you if you catch my drift if brandon walked onto a golf course right now they would probably. I just feel like oh i get it. Your happy gilmore's caddy. That's funny as it so i gotta tell you this mean wilson in one time like we're coming off the golf course and we're going to go. We're gonna go have <hes> dinner and we're going to go have dinner at this really nice. Ace hotel in beverly hills actually called the beverly <hes> so we roll up and again. We're just off the course but put wilson is wearing a shredded tank top like it's it's it's a tank top but the tank itself is just fucking ripped and mangled looks like he got it out of a trash bin and then there's i wear i wearing a wife beater so i'm not any farther along or higher up on the scale of looking better than anybody else but wilson's shorts are also completely shredded rips but we get up to the maitre d' and and the he knows who knows it is and he's like oh yeah okay. There's just called on this is going to be awkward and he makes them call but he gets on the call and he's so fucking flustered by how we look trying to enter into his restaurant. He's talking on the phone. He's looking at us and he's talking with his hands so he's a pointed us but verbalizing to the people on the phone and he's like yeah i've got. I don't know another way to say. I've got a couple of v._i._p.'s. He's here with no pants wilson just look at each other and it was great because at the same time we both just start start to whittle like wiggle out of our pants like pull your pants down really not not here. Sorry not here but the visual is wilson. The fucking folded up front brim ripped shredded t shirt ripped shredded tank top. He's got holy pants on holy shorts. I'm looking very much. The same and there's a guy screaming on the phone about how to v._i._p.'s with no pants on are complaining that they can't get in. I mean that that's sort of <hes> <hes> the questions that i feel about you now. You probably fielded about wilson then where it's like is he liked that all the time like is it. Is that just like <hes> like when he's in public thing like an on camera thing or is he like that all the time. No no no no ma'am <hes> now. He's like that all the time that's yes. That's just who he is and that's just how he operates is a lot better when there was another weirdo role and right next to me because i just kind of blend right the fuck look you know what i mean. They're not yeah you don't stand out at all when when brian wilson is here in the equation. It's just like out now in that. That's there's there's there's people that it goes through earth whose vibration is just a on a little louder volume level in other people will send that guy but then but be together you know my tune gets drowned out and it's all good because i i could just be a fucking weirdo but now like you know the guy now. It's fucking. He's the big lebowski the i mean if you if if network where smart back then they would have given you guys a reality t._v. Show where they were just like all right no scripts. We're not gonna give you direction just exists and we'll film it and we'll see what we come out with. We actually truth be told wilson and i did some stuff. Where will this travel channel wanted us to go and cruise around together and <hes> we're like you know what let's throw together a little random video out in spring training and and see what they think so. We put together this video. We're out in the middle of the desert and were like trekking through like we've we've taken a hard left from burning man and have just gotten lost and can't figure out where we're at anything we end up like i ended up up painting myself with with clay in the desert of throwing pieces of fucking uh-huh like like shards of cactus at booking at little prairie dogs that are running through running through the desert. We're acting mike. We're we're on this great. Hunt this like you were chasing. We're following the migration of the great wildebeest but it's just like four random squirrels in a fucking lazy. I think we're going to look back. I don't know where that video is. That's fine but i feel like i feel like the window hasn't closed for this content. No it's still still very much alive alive and well. Hey robby box up the puck and holly festival in burbank. You know what i'm saying you just you don't threaten me with good time all right then. I feel like i feel like the demand is still out there for dallas brandon bryant olsen out in the wild content so we gotta give a shout out to starring nine alumni trevor bauer. Did you did it so proud of him. That kate did it. It's <hes> it's it. It's it's one of those things where i think. If you don't know the back story here will provide a little bit of context tax <hes> so so many machado owns trevor bauer i mean the numbers are actually laugh out loud funny like if you go look at the baseball baseball reference page <hes> it is a joke how well <hes> manny machado sees the ball against trevor bauer. It's pretty pretty bad. It's like the tune of five hundred. It's like hell. Alex bregman sees the ball of you speaking of that read anderson you can't you can't come in there you can't you can't throw on you know where you were trying to catch zig he. He was ready to zag you. Can't you can't were you watching. The broadcast and i said it did not say i said it i said it and then he really did it. I said you can't can't you see if you're if you're left handed soft coming to you. Gotta get it all the way there. I get all the all the way there even what's great. I don't know if i don't know bregman will ever see this footage but they they put me on camera and i was describing you know like how bregman a- able to get to those pitches inside and i was well first of all. He's got tremendously quick hands. He's got strong. Wrists chokes up on the bat so he's already a little more aware of the barrel. Maybe some other guys but also it's not necessarily a guy. You're worried about extending his arms on you. If you know what i mean he's a he's a guy that has the ability to cover the inside part of the plate with he's like he could get to that buried like him and i'm thinking of an animal in the the animal kingdom like him navia t. rex. I feel are two guys. You just can't be inside <hes> it was he felt it was three hundred seventy and a quarter feet and it still counts. You're right homers homer accounts. It's not the homerun derby you don't get extra points for hitting it further <hes> but trevor bauer we had him on starting nine down in spring training and and <hes> we were with him the second that the news broke that manny machado would be signing with the san diego padres thus leaving the american league and nobody was happier than trevor bauer. Here's the clip for series of my machado. He's my dad guy. Whatever i call him the holy ghost because he's like no. You didn't like past like jesus all he so you said before the series. I'm like my daddy but this year. I'm going to get him this year. I'm determined like you can't hold me forever. I'm going to get them this year. I got fully golfer his off the plate three. Oh he hasn't budged want. Here's an attempted to swain nothing. He hasn't loaded nothing. Fish sketch iraqi strike right so i was like he's looking for something over. You can get extended on and crush. I'm gone so i throw the ball. That's like on the black. Latins like ninety five just whack as hits three missile way gone wrong with like yeah so he goes as far as the saying that many machado's is dad and he's super super excited obviously the that machado will will be leaving the american league and then he was super stoked and cleven. You're providing the context that was that is the voice of mike clovinger indians starting pitcher in the background there <hes> providing the context that the whole team knows. It's not just like a bauer thing. The whole mm-hmm knows that <hes> that machado is bowers dad and lo and behold few months later bowers traded to the cincinnati reds. He rejoins manny machado in the national league together and <hes> on monday night. He got him ladies and gentlemen. We got him. It was a a great moment bowers walking off the mound point and adam. He's laughing and machado has to know 'cause he's laughing at the dish too. I feel like a guy like manny machado given his reputation in his history story if he sees a pitcher walking off the mound smiling and pointing at you after striking them out like that's a situation where normally he would throw a bat at you or step on your throat with metal title spikes but he laughed so i think he he's well aware of his success against bauer historically though and that's usually a look trevor bauer is to manny machado what an epi pin is to somebody who might get a hold of a of a satchel a peanuts that they may be laid off of like oh my god hey man like manny machado could go fucking over august first and get hit by a bus at the beginning of september and in a full body cast he would look at the manager. He'd look at andy green and go. Hey just this fucking. Put me in the lineup. I promise you and he's going manny. You're in a wheelchair in a full body cast. We look just give me in the fucking line and i it's a bucket two or three of the walk at least guaranteed. Manny machado knows that trevor bauer very aware of that so the minute you're able it'll to climb that mountain and plant your flag like bauer. Was you fucking do it and you'll let the world know and he did and to your point manny machado typically a guy. Who's was like you know what fuck it. I'll just put you on my serial killer list of people that i will physically attack on the baseball field for well. He's like you know what i get it. It's funny but but that that's the level that is the degree of own age when you have somebody like manny machado whose psyche just cannot be contained at times who is finding it laughable even himself at how much he owns your life. Oh that's that's cute you have you got got was because i think he i think machado had like an r._b._i. Base knocking the first two off so it's not even like like started out the night with a punchy or he's ask. It's like no. I already got you tonight. Yeah exactly a ba- bowers just tried to climb back into the fight. That's him that's him throwing that right. Hook just after the bell as they're heading off into the quarters going yeah yeah. They see that coming bit yeah that was after the belt. I don't care still hurts show. She's still bleed shots trevor bauer for that <hes> i'm sure every time i'm sure every time that trevor bauer towards the rubber and sees manny machado in the batter's box. He's working up a sweat sure. He works up a big sweat. Is there another way to potentially work up a big sweat. Dallas offspring gather is you're not know if you're into doing things stationed early at home in front of a mirror. Maybe need a little. I don't know maybe need the little push their well. If that's the case look no further than our friends at peleton why why does men's health the peleton the best cardio machine on the planet. It's pretty simple. Let me break it down. You need somebody yelling at you. You need to get fired up. Maybe it's the swiss alps that are on remind me. 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I think that what they're doing thing is they're taking every <hes> sort of method known to avoid tommy john surgery and they still could. There's a chance get to a point where they're like we need to we need to open this bitch up so right now like good say so he gets. It's the injection which i heard hurts like some bitch. I heard that yeah. I hear that that doesn't feel good at all but <hes> jeff passan <unk> described it as for some guys. It's a miracle worker you you know you're you're good as new after you get it some guys. It does absolutely nothing nothing so p._r._p. Yes you get a p._r._p. Injection yeah it can work. Miracles sometimes does absolutely nothing so so what the red sox chris sale are kind of looking at right. Now is roughly six weeks remaining in the season <hes>. There's no chance he's going to pitch again this year so you lose them for the rest of the regular season. If by chance the red sox make the postseason don't bank on chris sale for that either <hes> so he's done for or twenty nineteen but <hes> in that six week window where it would roughly be around like the division series time. You'll have a better understanding standing of does chris sale need tommy john surgery so that's why that's why when we were at the golf tournament yesterday. I see it up on the t._v. Chris sale doesn't need tommy john surgery. No it should say the red sox are avoiding tommy john surgery with chris sale as of right now that's table. That's what gets tough about. This is because the p._r._p. Injections those typically do help look. I got the p._r._p. Injection and i i had multiple p._r._p. The injections and describe that feeling by the way well. It's i mean first of all the needles large and it's not necessarily it's not about the initial feeling it's more about how the body feels afterwards and you do you feel kind of sluggish. My arm hurt hurt. It was dragon felt like an annual <hes> but that could also be because i had some major major structural issues going on like my arm as i found out later was was in very poor condition individuals that this impacts that it kind of helps immediately or they really feel that like oh man in a few days. I'm really feeling good. Those are the ones where it is more of an inflammatory scenario where the platelet rich plasma or the ox