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March 15, 2020: Pandemic, Primaries, and Not Asking Permission, with Guest Co-Host Sarah Miller
"Welcome to hot. Take the PODCAST. We take a step back and look at the climate conversation. I'm Marianne Heckler. I'm Amy Westervelt this week. We're doing things a little bit differently. Yeah that's a really nice way of saying that you did a whole interview without but you know your place. That is the correct answer. But you didn't have a great conversation. Sarah Miller who also writes with drill news right. Yeah that's right. She does and she writes all over the place for the cut and the outline these place in popular and popular. Yes and if you have read Sarah stuff on climate you probably have read her piece on Miami Real Estate and sea level rise. That's kind of stat. Article went crazy last year. but. I know her because we happened to both be writers who live in the same very rural county in California so occasionally get together to talk about writing because we're the only other writers we know in this area. That's awesome. I mean at least there's that community right because major media landscape is just way too east coast and I say that. Someone's actually on these calls so that's great. I can't wait to hear a child talked about without me and I hope that you didn't use this opportunity to keep throwing dude into the conversation. Y'All are just going to have to wait and listen and buildings such a proud mom awesome. Okay well not all the articles that y'all talk about are going to be linked to in the twitter as always which you can follow it at real hot take and you can also find those articles in our show notes. All right you ready to get started. Yeah LET'S DO IT I. We're going to hear a little bit from Sarah about how she got into climate rating in the first place and what she's been seeing on the climate story. Is there something interfering with your happiness? Or that's preventing you from achieving your goals. 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Help Dot com slash critical. Lean Sarah. How did you first into writing? In general. My first job was a paper in Philadelphia. Really the movie move. You know I worked for the Philadelphia Gay News of your of Your Philadelphia weekly read about in my piece the English patient It's called it's not called English. Patient called movies asset. That's right and then I started work details as a sex columnist details which is pretty funny because I actually really hate talking about sex and and I mean I think you think of your woman in the ninety s and you're funny that people were like Oh you should read about sex right. Did that for a while. And then I when two thousand eight. The whole world fell apart. Yeah and I didn't work for low isles teacher's aide for a little while I basically rating for all and then I started getting more work and then I started writing Internet staff and then I kind of like like oh I like pretty serious personal essays like yeah man I guess we get climate thing yet so Maria the CEO says the editor popular was like she had just been in Miami since we should really write about the real estate market here. In how the flooding and the sea-level rise and a underwater flooding the Sunday flooding level rises affecting. This has like. Oh yeah that sounds good and I kind of afraid to do it because I knew that I'd have to go to these open houses and lie and horrible lie. Also kind of get lying is not my favorite. But when it's called for the only thing to do is jump in with both feet. So when the first agent tall fair polite bordering on stern possibly. Swiss possibly Swedish asked. Do you live in Miami. Now do you know what kind of place you're looking to buy? I said I live in San Francisco and my husband is in tech. I gave a Koi twist the wedding ring. I'd put on in my hotel room. We're looking for a place to hang out when it gets really rainy. Ll and then to retire to rofl. He either believe me or did not give a Shit. The decor was beige and white or stainless steel except for the books on the nightstand which were jewel toned. One of them was written by someone I dislike. I walked around the apartment as if I already owned it. As if within my lifetime the lobby beneath US would not be decorated with Kelp. We run again on the balcony. T- gestured at the unusual rainy day. For this time of year late March. Usually at night you will be looking at the best spectacle of a sunset here. He said he was framed by Biscayne Bay and made me think of expensive butter sitting on a blue ceramic dish. I would and odd over the view quite genuinely because if you don't think about the fact that it's filled with thousands of pounds of post hot pilates. Vj poops scheme is breathtaking. I asked how the flooding was there. Pump stations everywhere and the roads were raised. He said so. Oh that's been fixed fixed. I said wow amazing so I did that and then I started getting a i. I sort of thought of climate change isn't is going to happen in a in a way in the future And then I started doing that and I was like. Oh It's GonNa happen sooner and now it's happening now and now I'm like very. I've super freaked out. It's kind of all I think about and I try actually like don't read about it as I should because I have to ration the amount that I think about it because I am very depressive and very anxiety prone and I get really really really freaked out. Yeah I feel that's why you're good at writing about like what it feels like to live. Now you know you wear of climate change like that's kind of like we've talked about a lot of my show that there's been sort of a move in the last three to five years to talk about that side of it and like the DOT is actually important for getting to the point where people can act in some way for longtime climate coverage was like the science and the policy in like I think a lot of it too is about things people could do individually yet and I have mixed feelings about people doing stuff I mean if people wanna do stuff I try to do stuff in the sense that I the thing that really bothers me is how much trash I produce mobile and got. I don't drive very much. Yeah favorably small car. I can never this car I've been I've been flying less just because it feels gross. Tweet a fly. Yeah but I don't anyway. I don't think that I don't believe that. The individual can affect the have a big effect on the climate and I. It's seen fortunate to me that so much climate coverage Like for example The New York Times climate newsletter. A lot of it is around. Like what can you do to to lower your carbon footprint and is right like? I don't know I feel people will ask like what can I do? And it's like well really. Ci Yourself to well. That's the thing I think like. We're focused on the wrong kind of individual actions like we're focused on consumer actions. Yeah individuals can decide to overthrow systems. Really do that. My favorite sociologist to talk to is the sky Bob Brule and he talks constantly. About how like the idea? That any one individual's choices within a system that dictates what their choices archer is going to have much of an impact. It's you know it's like that's not how it works. I WanNa do live by your values. That's great everyone should and to me. That's about like me being happy like it burned makes me happy when I have less trash. So he's trying to have less trash. Okay so almost sort of climate storytelling front. Is there? Anything that essays or books or anything like that or even movies that you've seen that you think do a particularly good job of telling the story of climate or expressing how how it feels now or anything like that anything you can think of so ash. Sandra's with a piece for the believer. We talked about that one episode two hundred zero weather and that just resonated with me. I mean that resonated with me so much like I read it and I'm just like I kind of didn't read anything else about climate for like a week because it's just really tough. Yeah and then I really. I really like drilled. Because you're looking at how this happened yet. In a way that is not like Xiaojing people for their choices. So much as just like this is how this has worked yet and this is how corporations have made this happen. And it's you know it's real reporting in its facts and it's about how you know we'll companies have so much more power than than we do and so do. I hear so many people even like just regular people blaming other regular people for for climate catastrophe. And just like you know again. It's just not I feel like some things like the work that you're doing. Just points out that. That's not how it happened. Yeah yeah that's a perfect lead into our themes and events section. So let's get into that okay. I think we have to start. The events and trends section with the Democratic primary climate has been such a huge topic throughout it and as we're recording. It's looking likely that Joe Biden will be the Democratic nominee. Totally done deal yet sir. It has a lot of climate people very concerned because Biden's climate record is not great. Yeah so okay. I think folks are not really understanding why this feels like such a deep wound to a lot of climate people like to me. It feels like such deep one because it felt like after the two thousand eighteen report the report I mean like the the Big Humam facts hct. That had everyone just so upset. It was the first time the scientific community had talked in such stark terms. About how serious time? A- change was if I like ever since that report people were finally listening to climate people and all of the climate people that I saw the I respected Where either in the Bernie Sanders Camp or the Elizabeth Warren Camp. I can't think of a single one that was in the Joe Biden camp and it just sort of felt like all of these other groups were finally starting to take us seriously and like you know really agree that you know this is really. We need to do something about it. And then we're here where Joe Biden creeps up from behind in the most Joe Biden thing ever. It's true he totally photo bombed you know and like took took it over and it just feels like y'all weren't listening to us. We're you know I know I like I highly recommend that people read this Kate Aaron off story in the New Republic about Biden sketchy climate record. I thought she did a good job in that story. Because it wasn't like a lot of people are GONNA do boo. Joe Biden one of his advisors as you know works for natural gas or whatever or like you know he'll be to moderate like the Obama Administration in general was to moderate climate Blah Blah Blah but She does a great job of really kind of making the case. That like this is someone who has never really understood this issue and also I thought did a really good job of Showing that it's not as simple as just like Oh. He takes money from fossil fuel companies. Because he doesn't actually like. He signed the no fossil fuel money. Pledge but that's about the only way that you can be influenced straight so he's had for decades. He's had advisors he said a little bit of a revolving door between his office and the natural gas industry and what that's done is not just put him into the position of sort of being friends with a lot of people not industry but it's also really kind of indoctrinated him into this idea that natural gas is a really good and useful solution like he's very much on board with that whole kind of bridge fuel narrative and that he has like he's really grabbed onto it and and kept it Golan. Yeah these people at this bridge fuel but they never told you where that bridge goes. Yeah I think the biggest thing that an kate talks about this in her story to the biggest thing that people forget about natural gas is that it requires totally new infrastructure and when you build that infrastructure it's not like oh it's a transition fuel so we're just GONNA use it for a couple years and then we're going to get onto solar or whatever else it's like no you're locked into that. For like thirty years you know it actually kind of impedes transition more than it enables it. Yeah seriously so I feel like we should talk a little bit more about actually. What's gone on over the past week and I say that for selfish reasons because I don't fully understand I know that Bernie was leaning up until we got to South Carolina and then like right After before Super Tuesday which was the next set of contest where like white eight twelve states. Vote something like that like an obscene amount of states. Vote Right before that. The moderate wing of the Democratic Party like the slew of endorsements for Joe Biden like Buddhism Klobuchar. All of those people dropped out. Tolsey somehow is still in it. Like did she forget she was running? All of these people dropped out and endorsed Biden. And then he swept on Super Tuesday and then the next set of elections. Where four states say like North Dakota and a couple of other places voted and bite him swept again. Mississippi voted and Michigan In those days there was a big one. That was a big one. Because Bernie one that steering twenty six teen and And I think well there was a lot of talk about how Basically a lot of like working class white men who normally vote Democrat sat out because they didn't like Hillary Hillary Clinton so They came out for bite in a big way Which is interesting. I think you know there's been a lot of talk about like okay. Like what can we do? Can we push by and left? And can we do this? And can we are tweeting me. Oh no no seeing not be like do you. Yes no I know. I think a lot of people feel that way. You know like I saw. I saw a lot of conversations happening on social media to that. We're like how do we basically like? How do we deal with if might and is the nominee like? How do we make sure that climate people don't like get fed up and vote How do we continue to push for change when it feels like such a defeat all that kind of stuff and so I do WanNa play a bit from Miami with Sarah about this because I thought she had like a good take on on that aspect but the thing that keeps coming for me that I noticed that this just wo is just the extent to which we are constantly asking permission for things. Yeah and it's like these fucking people are trying to kill you quite a fucker. You asking them. Please don't kill permission and I just. I'm like we do kill math lately. We're fleeing I had like two eggs in the in the election basket. Yeah you know and feel so sad for my friends that had like twelve. Yeah but I just really want to encourage people to thinking about about getting these systems. That don't work to work for US. Race feeling we should stop asking people for permission for our own survival survival of our of our children and our friends and our everybody yum. Because they're not they're not giving US permission to survive and we need to take it back. I do think that what we have now in the wake of. What's what's happened in. The last couple of weeks is an opportunity for these people. That really wanted things to change. I think about how can that actually happen? Great how does change happen if the exist if it if it but up against the existing system just in the time since I recorded this conversation with Sarah which was like a few days ago? Yeah middle of the week now. All this corona stuff has really needs much satis. I probably I think. Well it's definitely. GonNa at a minimum. It will influence the primary in so far as that like some of them are already being delayed like Louisiana postponed. Its primary but I think it's also kind of causing people to maybe rethink things. Yeah I hope so because I just feel like the two issues that are at the top of Bernie's platform are the two obviously most important issues right. Climate change health care. And you know there's A. There's a debate coming tomorrow. We're recording this on Saturday march fourteenth. There's another debate coming out tomorrow. March fifteenth on Sunday. And I would be very happy for this to be the health care and climate change debate and I'm normally the person who's like I'm real sick of here. Y'All talking about healthcare. Y'ALL TALK ABOUT HEALTHCARE WAY. Too fucking much tomorrow. Bring it on. I WanNa hear all the point of service and I don't know all other words y'all us what they mean like bring it on. I want to hear him about it because yeah I just we need to talk about this and like if you are voting on the issues then. I don't see how this is hard. Sorry I don't mean campaign right now. I'm not campaigning. But it just seems like a you know. Well Yeah yes so okay. You were in London when this whole your yes. Yeah yes so funny story When you you did the interview with Sarah. Because I was out of the country I was in London. It was my first trip to Europe ever and of course it was during a pin. What would I go to Europe? So I don't know I originally was planning to go to Europe. I was going to go to England and that I was going to go to France for like half a week and like just roam the city via Parisian. Because I've got a French middle name things like the thing to do a week before I go. I get all these tech some friends being like. Maybe you ought to cancel bad because the coronas situation in Paris was getting a lot more serious and I know like yes. This is a very serious epidemic and it's a lot more serious than the flu but from everything. I was reading as a person who's relatively younger in not in pretty good health. I was like less afraid of getting the disease than I was of being quarantine somewhere so I like that scared me so I decided to just go to London and cancelled Paris and then I woke up like four days before I was supposed to come back from London to a slew of text. Messages being like are you stuck in Europe. Now imagine that being the first thing you see when you wake up in the morning especially because that was the thing that you were scared about the first place it all came through with no context to like nobody was like trump just did etc etc. No all of them were like you're stuck in Europe. Come home now. Everybody's freaking out and so I changed my flight to come back that day. I was like I'm not about at the time it didn't apply to the UK and didn't apply to US citizens But I wasn't about to wait for that warm to turn and yes. I changed my flight for that day and as of today Saturday march fourteenth. He actually did extend those travel restrictions to the UK. Starting on Monday. The other thing too is that you had this announcement from trump way before he was announcing anything about you. Know testing or travel bans or public health of any kind. He got right out in front there with a bailout for natural gas. Right of all the fucking solutions right. It's like he only has two solutions to everything. Exclusions in the form of the travel restrictions and then bailing out his friends. Because he's also bailing out the airlines. Yep totally totally and the natural gas thing is unbelievable because those guy unforgivable. Yeah and those guys have been in a free-fall for the last several years because their whole fucking business doesn't make any sense economically doesn't environmentally like. It's so it's a total cover for them to be like. Oh it was corona virus. You know like I I there. There's been some reporting recently. About how a bunch of the natural gas companies are like have pretty massive loans that are due in the next year. Well guess what. They're going to say that they can't pay them. Because of the corona virus you know so like and this is a good example of like the whole language. Storytelling thing too. Because I think there's been a big push to try to get people to stop even using the term natural gas because it sounds sounds better right than leg fossil gas or gas or whatever like it makes it sound like a renewable energy option which the oil and gas industry tried to present it as for years. Right Right so you know which term I'm partial to Fossils fossil farts. Yes per tag fossils parts. The other thing too is that there's been a bunch of stories about how I just kind of like looking at this comparison between corona virus and climate change and like you know From a little different directions like you know a yes. It shows that on mass people. Can you know sort of suddenly shift behavior and that governments across the world can actually coordinate on things you know and you know and that like when everybody stops for a minute emissions do go down Yes but then there's true but then there's also some interesting stuff around how this could actually negatively impact some of the the push for Climate Action. Because a of course you have these bailouts for oil and gas that are gonNA artificially depressed prices for oil and gas which is. GonNa you tends to lead to increased consumption and then also like you don't necessarily You don't necessarily want people thinking like this is the best way. Oh this is great. Everybody's like sick and people are dying terrific. There's I've seen some very sort of vaguely some Dr Geneticist case. I've seen some dark shit. Yeah Oh we do have a population problem. Oh boy just like a new. But I did talk to Sarah about this a little bit and she interesting things to say so. We'll play that now. I'm definitely not an expert on what's going on with emissions and Corona yet. But I just have one thing to say the only the only thing I really have to say about that. It's it's just proof that the only thing that really affects emissions is less production. Yeah yes okay. I'm going to read you a pair of ads this fast company article on exactly because I think yes. It's like real time truth that like. That's what works like everyone's just like war uncle trying to say like. Oh this works you know nobody fucking doing anything like credit viruses transformed everyday. Life says significantly that the effects are already visible from space in China or hundreds of millions of people were quarantined to help. Stop the spread of the disease before and after satellite photos show pollution disappearing as came to a standstill in the US. As the number of corona virus cases has grown quickly companies are asking employees to work from home. In cancelling conferences schools accounting classes in Italy. Another massive quarantine is underway. The changes have been sudden driven by widespread recognition that it's a public health emergency and although the window of opportunity may have already closed a chance to prevent another deadly disease like the flu from becoming a permanent ongoing problem. The scale of the response raises another question. What would it look like if the world responded to the climate crisis with a similar sense of urgency question? It's just weird. Have few people see things that way? And it's it's it's really scary. How few people see things that way? It's also really scary. How the response to seeing things that way is like I just hear. The word pragmatic all the time and yes. I probably shouldn't take it personally like I feel like they're saying that I'm an idiot and again it's just like the ask asking for permission like constantly like you have to. Yeah you have to take it from them and it's hard to imagine like exactly how can happen but we've seen some evidence of how that works right now. Yeah I'm Canada. That's a good segue into talking about the wet sweat and protests in Canada which have been going on for a while now actually. I was surprised when I started looking into it. That they've been going on for over a year now They really have. It's really only gotten kind of international media coverage in the last couple of months but this is I I heard about it. Yeah Yeah I. I heard about it in early February. Say Yeah I think it was around that same time for me too. Yeah yeah so no apparently has been going on for a long time and this is not the first pipeline that they have protested so part of the West Wing. That doesn't surprise me. I Know Yeah. The other two have been shut down. There was a tar sands pipeline. That was supposed to go. Through their that ended up they ended up pulling out because of protests mostly and then there was a natural gas pipeline. That is now up in the air but only because Chevron has sort of divested from a bunch of its natural gas assets which is interesting is Chevron was one of the first oil and gas companies to like really go hard on natural gas the fact that they're like sort of quietly and slowly pulling out tells you that does tell you something less. Possibly the second has talked about what pipelines those terms that like people news to the conversation might not know what they are and there's lots of different kinds like there's one for example in just this territory there was a there was a pipeline proposed in. I think two thousand fifteen two thousand sixteen that was a tar sands oil pipeline so in Alberta Canada they were Getting Tar Sands oil. And then they wanted to pipe it all the way to Western Canada. And sometimes it's being usually it's being piped to a refinery and then from a refinery out to you know be distributed and whatnot so these pipelines are hundreds of miles long generally They often you know. Obviously try to plan them. For routes that go through less populated areas in many many parts of the country. Those are also have this country and in Canada. Those are also indigenous lands. And so there's been a lot of ongoing issues about land rights you actually you have even in the US you have some groups trying to undercut like centuries old land treaties with indigenous tribes to Get around kind of having to ask. Permission to build these pipelines An explosion of protests of these pipelines in the US and Canada Because on top of the fact that you know I think a lot of people are sort of like we don't actually need any more natural gas or Tarzans oil or crude oil or any of these things. There's also the fact that these pipelines fucking leak all the time. That's yeah that's what I was thinking about right like so I I think in all of the things I've learned about being in the climate come in the climate movement is the INS and outs of what happens with these. Pipelines has been one of the most disturbing things like those were the reports that When I edited those I would really have nightmares. In particular the Tar Sands Pipelines. Because they're carrying this really really toxic stuff which is going to leak like. It's just. It's going to leak. I don't think there's I mean it's crazy exactly if it's carrying tar sands and it gives him water. There's no way to get it out. is extremely flammable so it makes explosions really really inevitable And like I I remember reading. While report and there was like a pipeline that went directly underneath a school and so yeah and they pollute the air they are linked to all sorts of cancers and things like that like they are extraordinarily dangerous. Not just in the long term. Which is you know no longer. The long-term when it comes to climate change but they're dangerous in the immediate term lake and there's a reason that they find themselves going through indigenous lands almost like with laser sharp precision. Because they know that they'll be able to get around certain laws and that they can lock. I mean it's it's really gross. Like you just would not see this happening in like a white suburban neighborhood no way in the world there's no way in the world and it's also like we keep hearing people say that wind and solar is not proven energy are not proven infrastructure or not proven technology and. This is actually if anything. This is disproven I like the keystone pipeline is like a really good example of this That this pipeline was protested for Leers years. Yeah most famous pipeline by name. Actually Obama said okay. We're not building this and one of the first things. That trump did when he got into office was reverse that and tell them to go ahead and build it and had a massive leak and then on top of that they fucking lied about the size of the League and ended up being ten times bigger than what they had said. It was leaked about three hundred. Eighty three thousand gallons of oil. That is insane. That's insane And you know of course like all the people that have been protesting it for the years leading up to that. We're like yeah. This is exactly why you know. So yeah they they have bad records these things so anyway in western Canada British Columbia. There is An area in British Columbia. That would be sort of like the natural route for a lot of tar sands oil and natural gas pipelines but it goes through indigenous territory and they have built residences purposefully right in the pathway of where a pipeline would go. 'cause they're like yeah? No that's not happening here. And there's been a few that have been shut down but then this one company called. Tse Energy has been pushing for it. With a natural gas pipeline. That would run through this territory and apparently on on New Year's Eve Twenty nineteen the British Columbia Supreme Court granted an injunction to the company which barred members of the indigenous tribes from the obstructing work. On this it's called the coastal gasoline pipeline. And the Royal Canadian Mounted Police. The mounties were authorized to enforce the order but no one knew when they would show up so they were so they basically said yes police. You can clear protesters from this land. Even though that's totally in violation of the Land Treaty between the WET Sowetan and the Canadian government so then they did show up in February That's when we all started hearing about basically when the police showed up because they showed up in pretty large numbers they clearing people. And that's when like you started to see a lot a lot of international news outlets start to pay attention. They were arresting protesters and tribal chiefs and they were detaining journalists right which is crazy But right on my only time right right exactly like not not unexpected and then you did see you know you saw. It was interesting because initially in the early stories about this. A lot of the International Press and a special of the Canadian National Press. We're really focused on the economic impact. It was having four. These the indigenous tribes to be blocking like they were not just blocking access to their land. They were also blocking train. Like train lines from you. Know from getting to their land because they wanted to really like shut down the construction of this pipeline. And so you were seeing people kind of complaining about like this having an a negative economic impact on the whole country because priority. Yeah exactly of course but then you had this kind of a similar thing. That happened with with standing rock. I feel like you had Unicorn riot doing all these Regular updates and doing a great job of sort of on the ground reporting unify. Yes and then here. You had this group called Ricochet which is kind of a similar deal where they're fairly small. They're indie they're crowd funded and they have been all over this Sending reporters all the time And then they have this one indigenous reporter named Jerome Turner who actually got detained himself and he wrote this really great and kind of chilling essay about that. I'm going to be from here. No children are permitted to be on the territory until the situation is resolved. The danger of being forcibly removed hung in the air as the first reports of ours. Emp VEHICLES LEAVING. Houston came in from firsthand accounts here later. I know police arrived and moved in on the site at kilometer. Thirty nine without much warning. One land offender was in a locked vehicle off the road with a radio transmitting. What she was seeing. None of what I heard over. The radio is easy to hear. Thirteen the window. I don't know if it's to prevent me from seeing or to break it there smashing the window then silence. I can't go into what happened at thirty nine kilometer because I wasn't there but six Lynn Defenders and two journalists were arrested very quickly. What part of the injunction did they break why? We're media personnel detained okay. So what's happening with us? Now is a protest going on. It is still going on. So there's been some interesting developments in the last few days where the government in British Columbia is starting to negotiate with the tribes and actually has been very clear to say that they want to negotiate the overall land treaties. Apparently there's been some kind of ongoing issues about solidifying rights within the Land Treaty for the indigenous tribes. And making sure that like this is an issue that just keeps coming up every time. Someone wants to build a pipeline. So that's cool like they're like okay. Let's solve the bigger issue. But it's really funny because all the papers were like you know probably solved like protests over and all the indigenous groups on their social media. Were like the protest is not over. Lay We've just started having conversations right you know. We don't trust these. Of course they do exactly exactly but I do think it's a good reminder for especially those those of us who are sitting in the US kind of being like. Oh No you know we might end up with like a president who doesn't get it jam it like you know. The political system isn't the only way to change things right. You can also check chain yourself to some shit. Yeah what's really scary is that there are a bunch of steets passing these laws to criminalize protests. And it's mostly the the pipeline states that are yes. Yeah and then. You're seeing like actually in July. There's there these two women who were arrested there. The turned valve on a pipeline in. They were in Iowa but it was the The Dakota access pipeline that like started in South Dakota and then it goes down anyway. They were arrested and initially they were saying I mean they kind of like outed themselves. They were like yeah whatever. Come and get us like we're GONNA use a climate necessity defense which is like you know Which has actually worked in a couple of Of cases but then they ended up getting they were charged. Federally as like. Yeah go terrorists so now. They're facing a mandatory minimum of ten years if they're convicted Gosh like pretty serious stuff there. It is but that that also makes me think of like what's going on in like a lot of these communities that they're choosing. I read this article. A little while ago it was called a pipeline runs through southern news. Desert's I'm using the Columbia Journalism Review about how in a lot of these places where you know. These protests laws are coming down but pipelines are going in the newspapers have disappeared and that allows the fossil fuel industry just completely literally control the narrative and I wanted to read an excerpt from that because it really gave me chills. The counties along the route are some of the most rural and economically depressed parts of the US in a region. That is historically reliant on extractive fossil fuels in North Carolina. Seven of the eight counties the proposed pipeline will run through are predominantly black. These places let consistent informative local coverage of energy justice in the environment because of the declining number and resources of print news outlets shifting the balance of news sources toward expanding corporate media monopolies. The areas are also overlooked by national media which mostly parachute in to cover major news updates or catastrophes if they need a tie in to president. Trump's policies a dynamic that can perpetuate inaccurate stereotypes about these places. The absence leaves ample space for a powerful campaigns by Duke and dominion the Pipeline Developers and buyers of his natural gas as well as industry lobbyists and politicians to shape the pipeline narrative. Yep this is a huge problem right now. I think there's just like no local climate accountability and these guys. I mean the thing is the thing I think people don't realize is that there's literally no battle too small for the fossil fuel industry to get involved too because there's no probably only God they will get involved in like the smallest issue like a tiny wind. Farm proposed in like a rural county somewhere. They will show up so writing. 'cause they mean exactly exactly so the fact that you know the. Environmental Movement tends to be outmatched on the local front in terms of just bodies and money and then throwing in the fact that there are so many of these news desserts. Now it really. There's nothing holding these guys accountable at that level Actually there was a story in Energy wire I want to say about the county that I grew up in which happens to be the fastest warming county in the lower. Forty Eight States Ventura County. Yep and it's you know people forget that California's a big time oil state We have tons of oil wells and a lot of them are getting old and in Ventura County in particular. There are bunch of oil wells that the company who owns them which is a subsidiary of Occidental They are going to have to cap these wells and take care of a bunch of environmental remediation in the next couple of years which is like billions of dollars and they've been trying to get out of it every which way and so in the last Board of Supervisors election in the county which this is tiny ass county right and these guys spent over a million dollars trying to sway. Voters in a board of Supervisors County Board of Supervisors election. Just because if they can get one in lake pro oil person on that board than they can delay having to like clean up their shed for another few years. Yeah Yeah it's gross any way on that the always in on a cheerful note. Don't we yeah that is Kinda depressing? what did you do for standout piece actually weren't as depressing thing great but they were well written so yeah but they were just like something you love from recent memory. Yes yes totally totally. Yeah for mine as usual. It was like someone who gave me reporter envy because it was Malcolm Harris. Who Somehow got himself like in the room with olive shells future s when they see you in a room with a bunch of people in like a trench coat and sunglasses guest. Sarah I'm GonNa let you go first. What's the climate piece that has stood out to you? The most in recent history most influential thing that I read is. This is last year Jasper Burns wrote this piece for Commun- The devil and the green new deal and it really spelled out for me how technology is GONNA save us in how all these different technologies wind power solar power. They all use minerals right. They use the cheerios. They involve transport. We need to stop competing because we don't stop competing as nations as companies that individual. Yeah we'RE NOT GONNA be able to do this in any way at all to meet the demands of the green new deal which proposes to convert the US economy two zero emissions renewable power. By twenty thirty. There will be a lot more of these minds gouged into the crust of the earth. So he's talking about rare earth mindset because nearly every renewable energy source depends upon and frequently hard to access minerals solar panels use indium turbines use neodymium batteries use lithium and autocratic kilo tons of steel tin silver copper through renewable energy supply chain is a complicated hopscotch around the periodic table and around the world to make a high-capacity solar panel when might need copper atomic number twenty nine from Chilean Indian forty-nine from Australia gallium thirty one from China and Selenium thirty four from Germany. Many of the most efficient direct drive wind turbines require a couple pounds of the rare. Earth Metal neodymium. And there's one hundred and forty pounds of lithium in each Tesla. Got The quote death villages. Where crops will not fruit the region of Inner Mongolia? Where the ban oboe mine is located displays. Chernobyl esque cancer rates. But then again. The death villages are already here. More of them are coming if we don't do something about climate change. What matter is a dozen death villages when Thursday may be rendered uninhabitable? What matter the gray skies over Inner Mongolia if the alternative is turning the sky and endless white with sulfuric aerosols as last ditch Geo engineering scenarios. Imagine moralists armchair philosophers and lesser evils. May Try to convince you that these situations resolve into a trolley car. Problem do nothing in the trolley speeds down the track towards mass death do something and you switch the trolley onto a track where fewer people die. But where you are more actively responsible for their deaths when the survival of millions or even billions hangs in the balance as it surely does when it comes to climate change a few dozen deaths villages might seem like a particularly good deal agreed. Deal a new deal but climate change doesn't resolve into a single trolley car problem rather it's a planet spending tangle of sweat shirts with mass death on every track. Shatman yes already my wrath. Okay this is this this Shell Story from New York magazine so it was like you know this guy. Basically got invited to some sort of eerie since two thousand seventeen published a book about American millennials. I've had the occasional cold call from corporations to come talk about my work all but one of which I've turned down but last fall. Shell scenarios team as in Royal Dutch. Shell one of the biggest oil companies in the world offered me two thousand pounds in exchange for a fifteen minute talk and my participation in group exercise its internal corporate think tank was holding a daylong conference about how generational change would affect the hopefulness projected. What the company calls the Sky Zero which it describes as a quote technically possible but challenging pathway for society to achieve the goals of the Paris Agreement. I'm not a climate expert. But apparently I qualify as a generational whisper at least Shell and to talk to me about global warming giant energy conglomerate. Wanted to fly me to London from Philadelphia Business Class. I warned them that I couldn't keep their money and asked if I need to sign an NDA when they said no. I saw an opportunity to report on the Oil Company undercover while in plain sight without technically lying to anyone it was too good to pass up. I said guests than I emailed editor. So he goes to this day and he goes on and talks about how basically they're like. How do we continue economic growth? While making people think that we're acting on climate change. Yes that is their entire strategy to stop believing that they're going to do anything. This idea that southern turn into like empathetic people and then like when our politicians are just like on this. Okay fine forgive you for doing a show without me do. Do you do the whole show without me? I know I'm missed you. I missed the team I really did. Okay well I'm glad for the next few shows. At least we'll be together. How's your quarantine going? I mean I'm just really glad. I have a lot of booze in the south. I I have some unordered. They yeah I kind of feel like I have no excuse but to read all the great climate writing this out there. 'cause it's got to be a whole lot. Yeah it really has. An our readers can curl up with all the readings from this episode to which are posted in our show notes and on twitter. You can find us there at real heartache. Right and you can find me at at Mary. Heckler and amy is at Amy Westervelt. Sarah who co-hosted This Week is at Sarah Loves Kelly and Sarah with an h big. Thank you to her. For joining amy and keeping the dudes in the conversation to a minimum. Yes and please send your climate storytelling questions. Too Hot takes. That's hot takes plural at critical frequency dot. Org and a little tip. Try to keep them short folks. We know there's a lot to say but there's also a lot can be edited. Y'All another unlike honor roll here okay. And a reminder that if you like the show please leave us a review rating itunes It really helps us to reach new listeners. Also like if the profanity in the show bothers you. You can not listen to totally. Yeah Yeah it's really nice. We use the word fuck in a lot of our titles so you know what you're getting into y'all also like I don't feel like we that much yes and I think that thing that like mix the cursing more like audible in our show is the fact that we don't have Adam's apples and you know what if that bothers you go fuck yourself and on that note. We'll talk to you all weeks. Stay safe everybody by Awesome Yay. Thank you I feel like totally saved it. I mean don't feel bad like this show. I did with win. I can't listen to that shit like I really is. So heartache is produced and distributed by critical frequency. The show is reported and written by Mary. Heckler and me Amy. Westervelt are mixer. Is Tyler Morissette? You can find hot. Take wherever you get your podcast. And don't forget to follow us on twitter at the real hot. Take and leave US reading review wherever you're getting the show it's listening. And most of the time Le Dan having a sip of age. Durham right now. 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"I'm ready to make my credits. Can I'm ready to take classes from university. That will help me build a my experience it prepare me for the future. That would make me feel supported a courage and connected. Click this ad or go to online ODU dot EDU today. AP radio news. I'm Rita Foley lay. President Trump says people won't stand for it. He's talking about lead Russia investigator, Robert Muller's report, which many expect will soon be completed if it hasn't been already the president tells FOX business network that Muller's report is making a determination on his presidency and people he says will not stand for it AP correspondent Eric Tucker is in Washington. The report will come into the attorney general the attorney general will then notify house and Senate leaders that he has received this report, but we are not going to know for at least a little bit what the actual information and findings of the special counsel are because the attorney general have to decide what to make public today. A judge in San Francisco, we'll begin deciding whether to block the Trump administration policy of sending immigrants back to Mexico while their asylum claims play out here in. The US. Matt small reports lawsuit by civil liberties groups claims the policy violates US law by failing to adequately evaluate the dangers that migrants face in Mexico, while also depriving them of their right to apply for asylum by making it difficult or impossible to prepare their cases. The administration argues the policy is in response to a crisis at the southern border that is overwhelmed immigration officials ability to detain migrants. To American military service members killed in combat in Afghanistan. But we don't have any details yet flooding in the midwest is left parts of off air force base underwater, it's home to US strategic command which oversees missile defense and intelligence among other things servicemembers had scrambled to save sensitive equipment munitions, and dozens of aircraft almost eighty buildings flooded some up to seven feet of water inside. This is AP radio. News Miller Coors is taking Anheuser Busch to court over corn syrup ads. Zillur cores is accusing Anheuser Busch. Trying to frighten people into switching to Bud Light with misleading Super Bowl ads. They focused on one ingredients corn syrup assistant livered hours. We don't move with corn syrup the ad features a search for the owner of the corn. Sarah Miller lightness Coinstar at ruby clear. We brew course light with corn syrup. In its lawsuit. Miller core says it's not ashamed of its use of corn syrup as a fermentation aid Bud Light is brewed with rice. Instead of corn syrup. Anheuser Busch says the lawsuit is baseless and the company stands behind the Bud Light transparency campaign and have no plans to change advertising. I'm Donahue a ninety four year old World War Two veteran from Worcester. Massachusetts gotten his high school diploma seventy four years after he would have gotten it had he not enlisted, Paul snow. Rita Foley, AP radio news. Now is the chance to use reliable energy to grow your money with the dominion energy reliability investment. Our new investment product offers competitive returns, no maintenance fees and flexible online access to your money. Make the reliable investment in reliable energy, the dominion energy reliability investment to find out more. Go online to reliability investment dot com. That's reliability investment dot com. I'm ready to make my credits. Can I'm ready to take classes from university. That will help me build them my experience to prepare me for the future university. That will make me feel supported a courage and connected quickness this Ed or go to online dot dot EDU today.
Wednesday, June 5, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Christian Science. Monitor daily podcast Wednesday, June fifth. Thanks for joining us. I'm Mark separate meal, and I'm Molly Jackson. Non Muslims think of Islam, it's likely that they are thinking of an image largely crafted by Saudi Arabia. It is an image that Saudi Arabia has aggressively proselytized in the Sunni Muslim world and beyond through its wealth and influence, a strident conservatism that, for instance, only recently saw women as fit to drive, but this past week that image showed signs of cracking outside the Muslim world, the disagreement might have seemed a small thing three Arab. Countries rejected Saudi Arabia's pronouncement that the holy month of Ramadan ended Tuesday, they proclaimed it ended Wednesday, but for correspondent Taylor luck that flicker of discord speaks something much bigger. Saudi Arabia is paying the price for politicising religion. Saudi Arabia's interpretation of Islam called Wahabism has been the country's main export the past four decades and was their attempt to expand and cement, their influence across the Arab world. Taylor says this reductionist or austere interpretation went unchecked until it invaded almost every major town and city in the Arab world, the fact that states are now showing they are willing to push back, albeit gradually is a sign that Saudis monopoly or unquestioned to Gemini over Islam is not as secure as it once was, or as they think it is, for religion that in many places far more diverse intolerant than the image of hobbies and presents. It is the seed of a potentially powerful change. Today are five stories include a look at Israel's moment of decision for democracy, native Canadians efforts to reforge the system that sought to break them and incomparable glance back at d day through the eyes and the cockpit of two pilots who lived in. Our first story impeachment is presented as a binary choice. But congress has other options for dealing with perceived presidential defenses. Now that retired special counsel, Robert Muller spoken publicly about his Trump. Russia investigation, effectively leaving next steps to congress. The question of impeachment has gained fresh urgency. The Miller report found no provable conspiracy between Trump associates and Russia in the twenty sixteen election, but it detailed ten examples of potential obstruction of Justice by the president, but congress is not facing a binary choice impeachment upper down. There are many options for responding to a president who defies subpoenas and Houma significant portion of Americans view is unfit for office. Among them is another form of sanction, for perceived wrongdoing censure or a formal reprimand in the form of a majority resolution by one, or both chambers of congress, unlike impeachment, which is the constitutional procedure for expelling a president before the end of his term censure is not mentioned in the constitution, but it's an option rarely used that would at least convey moral outrage over certain presidential. Actions. It's a symbolic gesture that would please no one, but it might be the best alternative says a democratic strategist speaking on background. This story was reported by Linda Feldmann in Washington for the monitor. Our elected leaders above the law. How crucial is an independent judiciary democracies worldwide are increasingly facing these questions in Israel. They are at the center of concerns about Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu's efforts to retain power, Dan Meridor, a former Justice minister, who wants closely with Israel Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu is among those warning of a threat to Israel's democracy. Mister Netanyahu who has three crap in cases pending against him was attempting to gain immunity from prosecution while in office, and also, give lawmakers power to override the Israeli supreme court his eleventh hour maneuvers raised alarm bells among many in Israel from the left and right. Who saw in them in attempt to override democracy itself? The so-called immunity Bill he saw is now on ice because the Knesset led by mister Netanyahu really in the cooed party. Voted to dissolve and head to new elections, rather than give position parties and opportunity to form a government and Dacia move without precedent in Israeli history. These developments have many Israel worrying, it is headed toward a diminished from democracy. Pointedly is really observers. See what is happening here is very much part of the broader backlash against the post World War. Two norms of liberal democracies around the globe, the courts by definition have a role in democracy says, Mr. Meridor, limitless government is not democratic. This story was reported by DNA craft in Tel Aviv for the monitor. For generations, native Canadians, own governments treated them with appalling cruelty. So today, they're speaking out and making changes to a foster care system. They say perpetuates, old problems and thinking. Although Canada's indigenous population has more visibility in Canadian political and cultural life than America's Cleo policies have dark history here, traumas from assimilation policies from the nineteenth and twentieth centuries generated a lasting vicious cycle. Generational issues often see indigenous children, born into more precarious family lives. Yet, those families become victims of child welfare system, built on centuries of stigma, and bias in British Columbia, last year of all children apprehended at birth in which the government takes children from their mothers as a last resort protection. Fifty five percent were indigenous in the twenty sixteen census five point nine percent of the province's population identified as original. Authorities at the top recognized the challenge, but the indigenous community says it's not enough. It is taking action. Now helping to reclaim traditional cultural and family practices to try to break the cycle. A key feature is peer support by other indigenous women who have fought to reunite their families. It's more about how we walk with you, and we call it. Companion care says Patricia Don founder of the red willow women society. It's returning to an honoring that everybody has the right to dignity and respect. This story was reported by Sarah Miller, Yana in Duncan, British Columbia for the monitor. Nearly one million children out of school in Cameroon as a brutal. Separatist conflict wears on sixteen year old bless is just one but his irrepressible love of learning underscores how war puts the potential of generation and country at brisk when our blessed chief, let his hometown, he brought his most prized possessions, a set of electric toy cars for years. The teenager has been teaching himself to craft the vehicles out of materials at the dump a plywood tank gun barrels who was three hundred sixty degrees at a dump truck that lifts and deposits, miniature cargo less now sixteen dreams of attending university to come an engineer a dream, that was within sight just last year and his hometown in Cameroon's northwest region, but over the past three years, a con. Flicked between English-speaking separatists who claim their community has long been marginalized and the French dominated government has become increasingly brutal bless and his older brother fled to his sister's home, six hours away. For now. He's one of the one million Cameroonian children out of school schools have been frequent targets of separatist violence, seen as symbols of the state after blessed started displaying his creations on the street. He's become a local hit the budding engineer, but as flattered as he is he can't help think of what's missing to be back in school figuring out the science behind, what makes each little vehicle. Go. This story was reported by Paul J in Douala Cameroon for the monitor. Seventy fifth anniversary. Reenactment of d day is about more than history or getting to fly in cool planes. As a pilot says it's about why we live free and the sacrifices that were made and the incredible examples of what we can accomplish as a country. When we all come together. Lieutenant Colonel Dave Hamilton is dressed in a rumpled vintage uniform, but his memory is more than crisp. I'll be ninety seven in July. I'm a kid. He played a special role during d day as a twenty one year old pilot about to fly his first combat mission even before the main airborne assault. The kid from New York was part of an elite squadron of c forty seven's that left six hours before the main invasion, a squadron of twenty planes that dropped specialized Pathfinder troops behind enemy lines. What was it like to be sitting there in the cockpit? Waiting to take off he pauses. Maybe the word fear had never entered our minds. But we were anxious he says, and we had our lives and the paratroopers lives in our hands until we dumped them out over France. And so it was somewhat of a relief to get rid of them. He says, kidding, I dropped my paratroopers that fifteen minutes past one o'clock in the morning. He went on to fly dozens more combat missions, including the Korean war, when he flew more than fifty missions in an Rb twenty-six bomber later. He trained to fly jets and served in the air defense. Command retiring from the air force in nineteen sixty three. But I wasn't sure I was going to live through that first one. He says, I came back with over two hundred bullet holes in that airplane. This story was reported by Harry Bruni in Oxford, Connecticut for the monitor. No commentary on the future of capitalism from monitor's editorial board. This summer, the federal agency that regulates Wall Street will take a farsighted move. It will hold a public roundtable together on how to deal with short term thinking and capital markets, too. Many companies says the US securities and Exchange Commission. Need to foster a longer term perspective. While financial experts differ on whether short termism is getting worse. It is clear that many of today's problems from climate change global migration to ageing societies are so big and difficult that they require companies to resist investor pressure to give short shrift to the long view. Over the centuries capitalism, has contributed much to the universal welfare, the SEC now, wonders if new regulations to discourage short term thinking might improve that record, specifically the agency might allow companies to provide financial data only every six months instead of the current three months. The man for a change, certainly there, according to SEC chairman, Jay Clayton Americans who are building a retirement kitty in 4._0._1._K's, an IRA want to know if their money will produce steady income over decades. This summer's roundtable will be an excellent for them to discover better ways to bring foresight and patients into American companies. Wrap for the news confined. The full length versions of these stories in today's issue, or at CS mon- dot com slash daily. Thank you for joining us today. Please come back tomorrow. When we ask eternal question, does the world really need another pride, and prejudice rebate and the case of the novel Aisha last. Yes. Drawing on her experiences teacher and educational program for migrants, today's Christian Science spiritual perspective, contributor shares house self-righteousness pride and other elements that keep us from bettering the world can be he'll. You can find your story in today's issue, or at CS monitor dot com slash. We want to give a quick, thanks to our staff, including today's audio production team on Peng, Tim alone, and Jeff. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science Monitor copyright twenty nineteen.
Unfiltered Episode 45 Sarah Miller, with Rob Smead and Ricky Moxey.
"This week's episode of electron. Radio is brought to you by none other than electric supply. One of the few remaining Arse, don't companies electrical synonymous with quality and has a strong running reputation for manufacturing quality products for the Tattoo Industry. From your very first order, you'll know you're in good hands with a company that obviously puts the artists I hop online and check us out at electric supply dot com, a frontal us on facebook and Instagram at electric supply. By the way if you enjoy the PODCAST, do us a favor and share the podcast. Scotty and I. Work Hard to bring you great content every week, and we hope you know someone that might enjoy the podcast as much as you do. Thanks for listening. Post! PODCAST with your host Scotty Whitaker. Nothing is off limits where we sit down with your favorite artists and industry professionals and talk about whatever. COMES UP, so sit back smoke in your favorite beverage and get ready for one hell of a ride unfiltered starts. Rob As it may, or is trixie over here that he'd get high shit into past ten minutes got high, and not that I got the giggles, and he's like thirty five years old, and he's acting like a child right now. She's just had a lot of Stella Artois is that what it is okay? We're still in Pittsburgh. I won't even go into how much I love this place. Talk I'm not I'm not even GonNa go there however. Birthday just. Suck I feel better now. Because one of my favorite people just walked in the room. That Sarah Miller. She's here right, right? Like a little Ninja. High. One thing I want to touch on here. I Rob. I'm not even looking at Sarah Right. Now I'm looking straight through her and looking at you right now. I have an announcement to make. What's that Sarah's a baby? She is. He's having a baby. She actually. Having Child I'm excited to be the first podcast or to analysis. Okay. Now, she's already had the child. But I told you that you'd be the first one she did now. I'll I forgive you I love you. Sarah had messaged me, and then we ended up talking and she said I'm practicing sent me a picture. And I'm like Oh my God. You're? In the boom okay, womb baby! Little peanut peanut. And I'm like Oh my God. That's amazing I'm happy love. And she's the one that mentioned. Let's do podcasts awesome. She was going to wait and do the gender reveal. On the podcast and let it out there. I still haven't officially done the gender veal. Actually you have it. And I'm getting so so. Here's a funny thing. Funny Story. This happened just yesterday I posted a picture of my baby and Oh. My God what a gorgeous little boy! Only God! She's such a beautiful little girl so There's still a little bit. There's some clarity over here so technically. This is still yours okay. Make the official announcement. It right here, reveal go ahead. I am having. Girl Oh my God. I'm so excited. I'm like I'm uncle Scotty again. And I said I said this. Dude we can do this with you. Won't to and she's like I just gotTa. Make sure he's okay with. and. Literally. What was it two days here? You announced you were pregnant. I'm like. I was like what the fuck. Anywhere I'm not mad. I'm excited for you, guys. I'm happy and so are you back to work? What's going on with you right now? I never really stopped. Working I haven't seen you in for. I know well I literally worked up until three days before I. I had her really yeah. Wow now. I, feel! Lazy Shit. Well what else was I going to I? Get it, but I feel lazy now I'm just saying that was going out of my mind. Sure you where you are. You're very easily bored or boral Ersan just made that word well. Look seriously like they say there's this thing called nesting when you're a woman and you're having a baby, or whatever, and like you have to get all your stuff together. Well I did the nesting thing I redid. My House painted. A drywall got everything together I threw out all this junk and took me about two and a half weeks. Shit Yeah and then. I was planning on taking a bit more time off before she got here and. Three days into it. I was like all right cool like we really need I need to do something. I can't just sit around the house. There's nothing more to do and I'm Kinda blanket to blankets. You NIGGA YEP. Oh, Shit! She's a knitter now I was. No! She's not a knitter anymore. She was a nigger. Picker. fucked up. This whole started this thing. Hey, everybody hits Sarah Miller on here. I before I forget because I will just go all over the place most people know your instagram should anyway but go hidden thrown out here anyway, Oh okay, so if y'all haven't heard of me I'm Sarah Miller. Instagram is Sarah Miller. Tattoo it's pretty easy I bear. Basically it was just posting pictures of like tattoos and stuff before now posted pictures of tattoos and my baby. Yeah kind of. My My fiance he's he's look a little private, so don't. I'm not really like putting her out as much but I'm just so proud of her I. Just I have to Brag on her after in. It is what it is, and that's what I was saying while ago because it was a private thing with him, and that's why I'm I wasn't mad because. New York talked about it and excitement was there again, and it was like three o'clock in the morning. And it popped up. I happen to be awake I was like this motherfucker again? I ain't mad. I would love to have done it, so we're just GONNA pretend like we did. You heard it here first anyway. I'll. Be Girl. It's girls girls. She is she's a girl, a little peanut girl? Yeah, the most adorable. She's actually not a peanut well. Right. Cholera Lagoon. Not a peanut. Peanuts would be boys. I think. WE'LL TAKE A. We'll. We'll ask questions about that later, but anyway. Rob Yes you have anything you want to ask her. Anything everything. Off Air. Doesn't nothing you can say own air. was last time US officer yesterday. Yeah, work this book, does so you Sir how you doing? I'm one of your oldest friends. You didn't get into a four and I was in the middle of canal well. Them It. How's your fucking mouth feeling? Well, it's OK. Talking after root, CANAL! That was yesterday the more off today. It's a couple advil. It's okay I one of the downsides of having a baby supposedly as as a tattoo artist. Okay, first of all. We're pretty awful when it comes to taking care of ourselves. True story, fuck an awful. So on top of that pregnancy brain, you forget ship, and then you have a baby in the calcium so. I broke a tooth. Eating. He nuts actually ate a Bagel with cream cheese, and it was a soft Bagel, your tooth on a fucking Bagel on a soft Bagel not even toasted. Took over calcium. Holy Shit! Yeah was can molar to. Damn what now you can get your gold teeth like of other tattoo artists. Have Back in my mouth, nobody's going to be able to see, but then it could be a pirate A. kind of kind of seeing your thing, but the worst thing about bringing this tooth. It literally happened the day after we locked down for Copen fucking serious this entire time I have had a broken tooth in my mouth, and I'm just snacking on advil and tylenol. So, yesterday I finally got to taken care of. Well congratulations on the baby. And the toothpicks Yep I'm just saying. and. I'M GONNA go first of all I'm sure Tim is very grateful that you showed up at his grand opening. This is an amazing. Show is awesome show and Especially now I'm just going off what I hear. Okay. This is not actual this hearsay, so I'm going here. Say or right here. Again, there are a lot of. Haters in Pittsburgh. In the Tattoo, seeing and IT'S Basically, a Tony Bennett earlier. And you've shown up and I think some other guy from I didn't find out where it came from, but there's there's been a couple of you guys to show up and I think that's awesome that you showing support for somebody in your same town, because so many fucking people. Hey, don't other people for for for doing this year I i. really don't understand. I feel like there's there's enough. People who want art tattoos in the industry that we can? We can share, and we can go around I mean I I think in his point where we're diversified enough that if somebody wants a specific style, they're gonNA. Go to the person that they are more comfortable with doing that style. So for me I'd like to do portraits and. People come to just for just for my thing, like are people in my shop that they all specialize in their own styles and they. They all love like what they do and people recognize that so. If somebody comes in to our shop and they wanna get something that maybe not might not be at our wheelhouse, or we're not able to get the in a certain time. I. Mean I send them to other shops around here? And I used to do that when I had to shopping Greensboro. Somebody come in, can you might now you might WanNa go down here because we'll let you don't want money. Well, of course we do, but I would rather you have good tattoo. Yes, exactly and get you know and be happy with it, and then you in turn would get clients that way. Locker Room, yeah. You're carrying about the client's needs before your own and it's. It's it's I. Think it's come a long way from like from when I started I, started tattooing back in two thousand, two thousand six. Oh, so like back then it was like a bit more insular where Cuban to one person, and that was the only person that you wanted to get tattooed period, and over the years has become more of a thing where people collect art so like say if somebody wanted a traditional tattoo in Pittsburgh. I would recommend going to Shannon daily. I think she's amazing. My first recommendation would be billy Goldbach works in my shop. He's been Tattoo and like twenty five thirty years like he's. He's like a biker. Santa Claus. He's so sweet and he does amazing. Amazing work I mean. It's super super clean, but if he can't get them in, I'd Reckon Shannon daily? And It's it's it's more along the lines of like. I said before the clients come I. I liked it. I'M GONNA. Put Jones about real quick. You know I'm good about shit like that amber, pretty good answer. Just, in case y'all don't know. You know you know that have followed. Tattoo ink, master and stuff like that serves nerd. And pretty big, pretty big NERD, and so she's not embarrassed about it and she doesn't deny. I'm bleeding to death over here. Did you get bit by nine me that I'm fifty. It's one of those things you just spontaneous. Damn Age spot So in the nerd them. Okay. You want to go here because you know me I'm. Your fucking nerds there. I love you to death but. What kind of got you? started. That route you mean tattooing to to be the new NERD NERDY and Tattoo. Cultures Yeah. Wow well. 'cause you can, you can do any tattoo. Let's say that outright and it is what it is. But you've chosen to stick with. Your Style and what you do. And Your Comfort Zone, so I I think I guess what what made you stick to? What you're doing all right well I I. GotTa Say I will refute that I do not work only specifically in my comfort zone. I take I take subjects that I enjoy push the boundaries within the style, and then maybe outside the style combining different things. To to just make it a unique and amazing piece, so it's not like like super comfortable. I'm only doing portraits like I'll do flowers. I'll let her ended lettering the other day. On this one guys back I mean it's. It is what it is. It's just not something that I won't do all the time. It's not what. Is Super. Creative sparks my passion and everything like that for for me like I. I love doing pop culture mythology or I guess all goes back to like. When I was a teenager like I always loved drawing people's faces. I wanted to tell stories with my art. I WANNA be a comic book artist. Didn't quite happen. Actually went to the art institute so I. Actually funny stories, so this space actually was a tattoo shop when I was going to school here. Really Yeah, it was a little street shop didn't really last too long. Because of us on the first floor, yeah, was there on the first floor and I believe in this exact spot in this exact building, so we would go out smoke at the art institute at Four Twenty Boulevard of the allies, coincidentally and You just look to the left and there was this little shop right there and I mean it was just like a little flash shop. It was okay. and. When it was here I never went inside because I was. Proper, homeschool, little girl that was just getting my feet wet into secular. World ideology. Word. Yeah so. I mean like I've always loved that when I started tattooing. I just love tattooing. It didn't really matter what I was tattooing. It was that I was tattooing and it was amazing. It was so much fun I loved. Just the the entire process, so regardless of if somebody wanted a like the juggler war. Juggler logo or if they wanted like lettering or or or just like the random flash stuff. 'cause like that's what was the thing back in the day? I just love doing it when I started working at court back in two thousand and nine I, think was about two thousand and ten early, two thousand ten. No it was, it was yeah, was January two thousand and ten I went to the Baltimore Convention. Troy's towards Commission Baltimore, and that was where we had snowmageddon will. I believe that's where we met. It is yeah. So That was the first real convention that I'd actually. been to and worked the first convention I actually went to end to meeting the mark, but it was still at the hotel in Green Tree but the first convention I worked in one two, and I was able to see like I understand what was going on. Was That Commissioner Baltimore so walking around I'm looking at everybody doing all these amazing tattoos and I'm suddenly. Suddenly like Oh my God, so that's what new schools should be. Oh, my God look at that like they can do that. That's a portrait. They doing a tattoo and it's going to hold up and I don't know like I. Just like opened my eyes so a little bit later that year I. Think it was like March or April decided that I wanted to. I wanted to try my hand at portrait's Poe tattooing. Just because it I. Did I hadn't known that you could do that before. And now like my little blinders are often like. US Open all right cool. This is amazing. So I started offering. Specials to like to to random with walk in customers. Whatever Hey, let me do a portrait Tattoo on you. And I started. I started to do that then and I actually of my first award later that year. At the Second Baltimore show and I got first place for large female Colorado Thi-. Kylie when he was the girl I tattooed in. Shillong was the artist that I had replicated. So. I wanted so so basically like this one tattoo. Solidified by love for like the nerdiness for telling a story and tattoos, and like where I'm pushing myself my boundaries. It was like this one tattoo on this one girl. And I started tattooing her in a believe March or April when I was working at the Oakland Justice Court location, and this is the first. This is the biggest piece at ever attempted in my entire life, and it was her entire side. So. I was really slow and I didn't know what the Hell I was doing. So I started it at work on the piece by piece, and she would come back every couple of weeks and see how it healed, and I would be adjusting my machines and the ink, and the needles I was basically figuring it out as I was working on her, so like the first session I think I worked six or six hours, or so on her, and I got like this tiny little piece like look alike. Orange Nah might like maybe like yeah, like like four inches by five inches, not even probably smaller than that it was. A barely. I barely finished that and the next time. I got a six by six inches done next time. It was like eight by eight, and then like I was getting faster and I was understanding my machines better because I had this consistency over the course of I think it was about like six or seven months. I was working on this every few weeks and by by the end like I I had found my groove. I was like okay. Well is colored. Mixes that work the needles at work. Here's my machines like everything was just basically where it was were supposed to be so I went small, big big bigger than like the last two sessions on her I finish the bottom half like entire bottom half of her leg. So, then she came with me to Baltimore competed, and we won first place, and I was like the first word I ever won and Oh. My God, I I literally like probably fell over in shock. I. Don't know it was it was today. You know even still now when you win awards, you get excited and it's genuine, you know. Why wouldn't you and you're right? I agree with you, but there's so many people that don't. and. But my my point is. Is that you actually care? You know what I'm saying, so, but that's you. That's just how you've always been, but I WANNA go back for a second. When you were starting out with your stuff? Did. He give you shit in the shop as you were doing it. because. They were trying some new stuff yet. You know what I'm saying so. Yeah I. I got it. I mean I was low man on the Totem Pole, anyway because I was the first hire and. I just just because like I was I was pretty much doing this one tattoo promo for her just so she was basically donating your. Thank me to learn. I wanted to make sure that the shop was financially. Okay. Basically, that wasn't being detrimental to the shop so I would come in early and stay late. I would work extra on weekends just to make sure that I was contributing what I needed to so that it would offset the time that I was spending on her. But I still kinda got shit for it like we don't need to go into it. No, I'm not I'm just saying. I was. Anyone question like. People have to give you shit an in the beginning, because that's what most not normal, but yes shops and stuff do. Oh yeah, because it was I was outside of the box. It was like Oh. That's not gonNA work like. Why are you trying at least loyal to the coil You know I don't know but. My I think my most redeeming quality. Is that I a? Your Life I life in a lot of like the criticisms don't actually I. Don't hear them in the moment. And it's just like peanut from that one comedian young right over their head and you're like. Oh! And then like a couple of months down the road, like Hey, what God damn it? Yeah so, yeah. I got my fair share hazing. Of course you did what you're weightless now. You and I have argued about this for years about I always said you booked way too far in advance. Yes, have you ever cut that back? Yes, I did. Were you at now? Because I remember at one point, it was over two years. Yeah, that was that was. That was not not good That's right now I think I'm booking until September. Awesome I'm glad to hear that, yeah. I'm trying a chance to live. Yeah. I found that balance like having a baby like going back to that it was it was amazing just because I I don't know like I was starting to take care of myself to find this amazing balance and I was like being super creative, and you can see it like in my work. And even after I had the baby like I was only out like maybe like a month and a half I couldn't stay out longer than that. I was I just wanted to to work, and she just slept, so I was able to like. Go back in and I started I started getting back to work, and then the covert thing happened So. I kinda lost that balance for a little bit. I like it was really skewed on the. Staying at home Kinda Kinda depressed. What the Hell Goddamn and I'M A COW! Feeding this feeding this baby milk. Im in. Wars. Bag Eddie. And then like now is trying to catch up from everything, so I'm working. I'm working until five o'clock in the morning again getting home just in time to feed her a bottle, go to sleep for an hour, and a half 'til she wakes up at about like eight o'clock or so and I'm like a Zombie going in at noon going again so five six days like just trying to cram everybody back in the schedule, and that is not sustainable snow rob I'm GonNa say something real quick. Sarah has probably worked. Just. Guests and Sarah I'm going to be wrong on number here, but. out of the time. That I've known her. She has probably worked. Twenty or more shows for me Maggio's. Out of those twenty or more shows that she has worked for me. We have and let me finish there before you jump in here because I know. You'RE GONNA come. Play there have been probably. Thirteen of those shows where had to pay the security guard. Extra money to stay till five thirty six o'clock in the morning. We're not leave, not leave. That's happened a couple of times. and that was where I was gonNA say the other seven or eight shows came into wor SERTA's didn't leave. She tattooed all night and kept going, but I actually went back on one or two of those nights. Steeped runs a Calgary Convention. He got the worst of me. I literally went in about ten o'clock on Friday morning. Broke down the convention around me and we've done that, too. Well, but at three or four o'clock in the morning on, it was one thirty. Yeah, so so yeah in Wilmington. Wilmington. I'm just saying we've been there. But Steve did get it worse. Yeah, by couple of hours, and then I went to a shop and finished TAT tearing at like nine o'clock that morning Jesus She's a beast she. said it she'll talk to. always just like that time of grandeur when you came to ended, guest bought force. Jim. Kibi. And I do not remember the guy that got superman. Superman was. A huge and I'm like God I'm going to be here to five thirty. Good morning and It was like it was like one thirty. She killed that one. It was insane, but I I couldn't believe you got that. Shit done, and then I actually saw the piece. Two weeks later. and wasn't a flake on them on. fucker blew my mind. It was full. And I'm like bitch is gonNA. Be A chewed up, not a fucking lake on that bitch. I think I saw him maybe two years after that show in, it's still. A couple trophies I think that show. Jeff and Katie I gotta get killing me. Oh Man, he's amazing. I have to finish this hell. Girl started on his style of it was that. Weekend ended the. Greensboro. And Yeah I. He was supposed to come up. Around like I think it was like December or January. December but. He. He was going through this move and. And Well. I think that's probably been. It's probably been no I saw could be in American. He came back for one night. But you couldn't get through he had he came for one night. Just say. Hey January. January. Yeah all was January. Last time I saw him in hell. I don't live, but thirty miles from. So he works hard, he does what's next for you? For Me Moi. A Y one and done. Are you sure about that I'm sure? Definitely sure I am add. adhd yeah. That's to happen. Paul. Don't. Jinx her. Own and. You might want to go get. That thing cut quick. On just could be a minivan in your future. You gotTA minivan yet. I do not and I'm not going to get one now. Honestly I don't think I could love anybody more I don't want to divide my attention more from like a Livia and like anybody I love her so much. You know if I were to have another kid, it'd be like okay well. I'm trying to take care of this. WHO's my favorite and like? I've I'm fucking laser focus social. Tulsa! I'm good I'm good. She's amazing to say. Well as of right now I mean like we're doing a couple of renovations in my shop to kind of. Make, it a little bit more. COVID friendly. So what? What are they making the Fars like we haven't got. Him where haven't gotten shit? We don't. We don't know what the Hell is going on. They haven't even like like we're. We're literally like the red headed stepchild. Miller requiring to do to come in the shop and stuff so basically we're going to be unfortunately mass policy. I want to I, want to have an I'm putting in installing sneeze guards between the stations and I'm going to be I've got Anti. Microbial curtains that I'm going to be putting in each one to make each one. Its own microbiome and each one is going to have a UV. Air Purifier. That's going to be able to sterilize that individuals as sir going all out. Yes, so then like if you're getting tattooed in like you don't WanNa, wear the mask, or or whatever then you can just point your point your face to the to the air purifier. For me it. It really depends on like the area of that. You're getting tattooed. If you're going to be all up in somebody's face, I really think you should wear a mask. Yeah I can. I can get on board with that I I. Was I was? Amass cater I'm I still am I still fucking hate it, but you know. I finally had to sit back and realize it's not me. It's I got to protect other people so when I go in in somewhere I'll wear to fucking thing, but just like right now. We're we have been around each other well also distancing for about like six feet away from me so good. You know what I'm saying and personally. I can't wear for too damn long because I smoke eight hundred cigarettes a day and I cannot fucking breathing thing my own carbon dioxide that much I can't just add to it my. Excuse me cry, I still smoke, too. But I quit a long time ago. I'm disappointed in you. Mr Eight hundred cigarettes as disappointed in her look, look at me, judging me. Can't judge any. Know, it's actually kind of funny so. I. Found out, I was pregnant, and I started to try and back, and whatever I got I got down to about three cigarettes a week, and then I had some family. Drama stress. Yeah, so I, I kinda I kinda started smoking again in in I'm like what am I doing because I feel really really bad like what am I doing this like? I'm pregnant. So I I went and I looked at all these studies, so all the studies in America are in low income areas, and the people have co Morbidity Co morbidity basically so like if they're doing a smoking study on pregnant women, those people are usually taking other things, so the birth defects are always going to be higher in those studies. They're also a much lower percentage and each one of those groups study, so it's one hundred, two hundred and fifty people. There's this one study over in Australia. That studied fifteen hundred women five hundred, no smoking at all five hundred smoking halfway through five hundred spoke in the entire way through, and they decided. To to just basically. Like these are the statistics, so it's five hundred, five, hundred five hundred fifteen people in the entire study in the five hundred women that did everything perfectly. No Smoking like everything super healthy is still a two point. Five percent chance that something was going to be messed up with their kid. For the women who smoked all the way through, it was two point nine. so there was a point four difference and the the two major things in that city that they found because the women were only smoking. They weren't doing anything else. No other drugs or whatever it was that the children would be either underweight or premature. Well neither of those things was Libya fat yeah. Head got stuck you. Know. seriously. CL- damn claws live to. My my hips wouldn't spread. I don't know I was I was in Labor fucking twelve hours or so hard labor for three motherfucker now three motherfucking hours contracts. There's like a minute or less. I've never been in that much pain in my entire life and had an effort, earl. Happily into. That I was like fuck. They should daryl calm. It didn't really work. And I only got it probably because you're already halfway through. True that true that but I mean like I. Got Her head out to about her ears and she entered sheiks got stuck holy. So. Huge? Quagmire, cheeks. Booming back for C. Section like the doctor came in like three hours into this and I'm pushing on pushing my damndest online reading the face I look at tomato. I've made us out at this point, and like I just sort of mother. fucking. This nurse because I was like. And? She's like honey. Be Quiet, you are not you don't know me. I'm not even being loud right now. I can imagine oh by God. I have made all empty. Don't tell me you don't tell me. I was like I can scream all of mother fucking. The doctor came in and whatever it is like what's going on in here and. gloved up, check me out fuck. It was like this like okay, and he takes his gloves off and just like kind of like often goes. You're having a C. section and just deadpan walks out like. Okay, yes, yes, please help, help me now. Yeah, so that was that was interesting, so I got I gotta have a kind of little. Blue Bush's she. She was kind of born both ways. Yeah, which means I had a hell of time recover. That was fun. Yeah, we won't even go there. I don't WanNa about that. Hemorrhoids were amazing. Thanks for sure. Tell us all about that. Filter it is it is it? Is Go ahead. Rob Wasn't about your heroes fucking laid out. There literally. Gaden! Experience that's. To the angels. Back onto that straight. Feel better back to the straight straight in there I'm I'm gonNA. Bet they were. So okay I mostly this then. Remember that. Until, you get your shit cut. To say Oh, no I recorded it. I'm just saying they watch it occasionally. I'm need to go mcminn appointment and get this taken care of the morning after pill does well. Hey, there, you go! Okay so here's a funny story. You know how this happened right well. Yeah, I do I'm I'm old enough to figure out how that should happen. and. I, mean rob. Do you need to go through for that? So. A lot of women. Have had babies around the same time that I did. Don't you wonder why? Let's see January you had to December now. Is Jamie January? women have been last year. What happened last year? In April beginning of May. That everybody was watching. I don't even know because I can't remember what the puck. I did yesterday throw came. FUCKING KITCHENAID! Yes, yeah, we got to win. Are You fucking kidding me? You got pregnant because of the game of thrones, yes. Honi baby, no I hate fuck for sixteen hours. Go get it off my mind. was that the finale of game of thrones? Episode before the finale like they never even seen an episode. I mean if you're going to. The End of Episode Seasonal Sarah. Pregnant, yeah, honestly I think. We need to have a class action against David Burn in DB, Weiss. Just just child support, because honestly they crushed our hopes and our dreams, and our fucking soul so much that we got so drunk to forget what they did to our characters because they were rectum, there wasn't even a fucking courtesy like. Do you hear this. A? You're very very passionate about this. Oh, you have no idea. I don't because again I've never even seen. Pregnant. I'm not and I didn't. So. I'm confused about now. I need so you're saying I. Need to go back and watch the episode before the finale. Only if you want to have a kid, come out your, but it's not true. That would be ricky. Ricky talking about bus stuff all day earlier or so he's not rob had nothing to do with it, was you? Stella. Stella Stella. Utah pegging. Brought data did not he brought that up. No he brought it up. He said I don't know what they're talking about survey. Let a chick! PEG YOU SO I. Go and I'm to find out how many babies were born in the United States January twentieth twenty nine February the third. I would. I would put. It's everywhere well. Yeah, from the beginning of January to mid February because it was those four to five episodes that. Episode. Did it? They made Danny. Go Tracing Denise. Storm. Born star area and she was the most amazing, the little blonde girl. To Dragon Okay what what happened to her? They basically made a go crazy. And Kill everybody. Oh, she! She killed everybody. Yeah, and then they killed her. Oh, in that made you Horny, and no, no not horny. Drunk drunk, and then the party the fest the festivities began. And babies commenced well. Somebody was say ragging seeds were talented. I hate fucking like earlier with the P.. Were you know like the pegging that was you? Yeah, it was you, Ricky. Hate hate for sixteen hours. Okay I got creative, just kidding. Did you. Did you watch the series? Yes, did you get man drunk when when the girl died and stuff? I don't get mad really, but I want to. John! Were you upset? Confused I'm very confused. I've had to wash the shit now because I was at I was going to watch tonight. It's just like we were talking yesterday. They decide to bring the shows to an end rather suddenly and then they don't really plan it out too well so fucking right some bullshit to bring it to an end and. The last five years Sarah Still pissed off about this look. I was ten years from me. Look at her, she's. On that loan. Yeah, it's been on since two thousand eight actually twelve years as it really yeah, two thousand eight Bucko Bob. came out of the. I think it was spring summer of two thousand eight on HBO Yeah. Yeah so twelve years of my life. Twelve years or eleven years. How many tattoos came out of that? Because, I do, know you. You've done several Oh. Yeah! I got I. Love that show so much like I don't know. I honestly don't know anything any any. Show any nerdy show or whatever any show in general that I loved so much. And have been so. disappointed. I'm sorry I mean that's all I can offer. A baby out of it, so here's the thing you don't need fertility treatments. You just need to watch game of thrones for ten years there you go. Back and then hate fuck on at the very end and. Ricky said second the last episode. Red Wedding would be a better one. Was Amazing. This what is this bows just probably the most bloody episode. We're still talking game of thrones. This called the red wedding because it's just blood-soaked episode, who got married? It was ROBB STARK ROBB? Stark was marrying this one thing, but you see he has. No tyrian okay. Yeah, it was a lister. Robberies marrying this one girl, but he was supposed to marry a walter phrase daughter who's coincidentally like his. All of these people's first unless loose. Burgers of just saying hey, I. There's certain things that you just gotta gotTa go down the rabbit hole and it does click. The word rabbit hole with that Manson massage you. Because, we can go down some rabbit holes quick. WORMHOLE! Wormhole of never heard around him, but he doesn't look real interested in wormholes. More Rabid I'll say is is changed. Rapid. Worm Rabbit. Look at that. It's. got some rabbit holes. You know what I'm GonNA throw. This rabbit hole you. Have you read the Book Ishmail? Is it. Call Me Ishmael by the guy that ruined on Moby Dick No. Not, not the same fellow right well. I mean. The first sentence in Moby Dick Extra. Finish now. That we can't go there then. She's gotTa read the book we're GONNA have to. But you, didn't you? You need to read that book. Okay that's we just leave that at that now before we. When we leave out, I'll send you what it is. Okay Cool, are there? I want to go down rabbit hole. Where would you go? What do you WanNa talk about? That's what saying you're the. You're the rabbit hole expert. Topic is pick a topic. And you go. It could be any damn topic you WanNa talk about it could be nuclear warfare. You could talk about gay rights. You could talk about marijuana legalization. You can talk about the pandemic you talk about. Theories talk about. Let's go conspiracy theories, but you got food. Conspiracy Theory you. Okay Cool UFO's. Aren't automatically. Have you seen? This mountain right behind me off the platform to. Mount off the mountain over there, but I have seen a couple. The first time that I saw you if. I think probably les six. It was the back of my my parents car. It was a blue Ford. God it red seats and we were coming back from. we were, we were coming back from some trip to go and we were going back to. We were still living. Because I was about five, not six because we were still living with my grandmother. And This past and there is this weird fucking bell looking motherfucking thing out the window and it just I, I looked at it and just start fucking following the car and got close. It just didn't it was like. Dad Or as you to. Oh no I I. I did. I was like mom and like I saw this and she's like. Don't look at. It will follow you enough you. She's probably going. Let's go a joint. This child home I, don't my my parents are very Christian, very conservative, Christian, but I think it was seeing midgets grow. I'm just saying they have seen midgets grow. Did you hear that shallow? Say it again, do we? Grow? Saying after we, I don't remember I. Cut it off at that point That's Robert he's he's. Healing midget says he called so he's seen midgets grow the old. Do that kind of looks like he's like possessed by a demon that has like A. Jet. That's that's the other one. That's kin. Oh! Yeah, that that. He looks like a triple judy. FUCKING Zombie this Robert on? The ring girl! That dude is insane. Yeah, Now, have you seen any? Do you think or do you? Have you seen any? UFO's since then. I mean like I. Think I've seen a couple of. Like Texas Arizona I mean nothing is clear as as when I was a kid. People always see you F. O.'s in the desert. I have a theory behind this. Being that I was out there last year. Because there's no light pollution. Light Pollution! What does that mean? It's like when when Josh Our at and Mount Zion the Park State Park National Park. You go down in this Bali in whatever, but when you look up, there's absolutely no lights around you anywhere. There's no big cities around or anything doing light pollution, so the skies supposedly black clears book. That's how did those pictures of the Milky Way on with my phone and it looks. You know don't look real, but that's like I'm like Oh my God. Eighty. Everything so much brighter. And you can just. You can't describe the sky. To somebody without them seeing especially, because the the best I've ever seen, it was in miles I'll. Say. was there with me and we just sit out there and again. We're a total darks because you're in a campground. The has no power So the only light you have is what's coming from the stars. It's insane and it's actually grind how! It's almost like as bright as a isn't like daylight. Is Dark I mean, did you? But when you look straight ahead, it's it's black when you look like. How does this possible? Yeah, so things do stick. You're like WHOA. You can count forty fifty shooting stars in a minute. Your disciple mother fucking everywhere so things do jump out at you. So you know. A UFO to me is obviously another flying object so I've seen him can't fuck. They are no. I've seen him dark stopped like. A fucking plane can't do that Shit. You know it's not a satellite. It's not space debris it's. A hot air balloon unexplained. It's completely unexplained. Rob What about you any any weird shit like a? UFO. But I believe in obviously I'm. Kind of foolish to think that. We're the only life in. That's. Actually I think like a couple of weeks ago. They were saying that scientists discovered life on like I don't even want to say the number because I can't remember, but it was a high number. Of planets outside of our solar system that they've discovered by phone. It's. discovered. But based off of the the chemical makeup of each planet they can, they can say if the planet is in the Goldilocks zone and it has. Then it probably. I'm not aware of this goldilocks zone. What does that, so? The goldilocks zone is the proximity of these planets to the the son of the the center of their solar system that is their heat source light source so in the goldilocks zone. It's a specific band that is is avaiable as not too close or too far away so any planets that fall in that zone goldilocks zone that have certain chemical or a chemical makeup, basically, so you have to have like water into hydrogen. Oxygen? Like there's different things that you can tell by the by the atmosphere, what the planets are made up of so if a planet is in the Goldilocks Zone, and you can tell that it has. That that basically fix the chemical makeup or whatnot you can. You can basically say there's a probability that there may be life on that planet, and they're drake is actually what can be quantified like it i. don't know the equation on the top of my head, but basically you can parse. If you, look at the Hubble telescope and multiply it by three hundred sixty degrees, because that is only one slice. Of visible visible light. And, so you take everything in that one slice and you multi-bit three three hundred sixty degrees. There is a there's this equation that basically says out of this many stars. This many may have solar systems like ours. This many may have solar systems of those that may have life these this the probability of life developing in those that have. The opportunity of being in. That area I mean like I'm I'm still trying to figure out what is? She, said like twelve words. Another I have no idea what they are. Two of the Spokane Weezer. Think about I mean for you. Did you know they found another ocean? Here where on earth. Where's this in somebody's backyard? Home Is just talked about that last week and there's then there's. Shit in there. It's underneath the surface of the earth whole thing, but it's like really hot water. Because it's so close to the centre. Yeah, it's like biggest body of water honor. It's underground. What can I find this knowledge trying to figure out what kind of life? Is. So, we're. We're floating on top of. Ocean. Thing McGregor. Did you about this? Nobody makes sense. Only Google at shits and read it course I do talk about something well. I'll tell you all about and. He just said there's ocean underneath the out the. How would you even say that? There's an ocean inside well. It's underneath the mantle the of the earth. So, it's basically like where. This is a rabbit hole. We just went down. Yeah, well, here's another rabbit hole. What do you think is in the center of the Earth? Okay, so here's a pop tootsie roll. Off It. You know I think it's I think. I don't know. This'll be. Scotty I. Don't know I can't let me put. mcglasson serried that for me. Massive Ocean discovered towards Earth's core season pitchers, and they just see somebody bit uneasy to see a Selfie. Oh Man, this is really cool. So a reservoir of water three times the volume of all the oceans. It's been discovered deep beneath the earth's surface. The finding. Help explain where a came from in this water hidden. Inside, a blue rock called Ringwood Diet. That lies seven hundred hundred kilometers underground in the mantle layer of hot rock between Earth surface in its core. Now hold on hold on. Now she had heard about this before. But she just said. It's under the mantle like like she's been there. But the crazy thing is probably if you keep reading. Talking about there could be prehistoric creatures fucking water. Were they getting oldest living in what? Bucked up, ricky, it would make sense. Did you see that look I just gave you. Explain. How would that make sense well so this own as its own fucking? It's like a terrarium what? Well so so the water is a really hot temperature down there. It's really closer to the core so the microorganisms that predated our evolution that started on our planet was a baby billions bill two years ago. Hold on. Do you WANNA come in. Well hang on. Let me finish this coming. Come on. So so basically. I had their hormone. Hold on, but don't speak in their speaking here. Yeah, I got that would cut off the microphone. You can hear on so basically. One theory is that as the building blocks of life came together the temperature of the planet when it was a baby was really really really hot, so the organisms that evolved life evolved was in this super, super, super hot melting pot, so these living organisms were basically. In temperatures hotter than lava, and they were alive, and as the plant cool down the adapted. So, if there's a ring a prehistoric water down there, it could still have those organisms from billions of years ago. Just say! Rob You. Put your phone down. What did you find out? Too much more than what she just said. Okay, Ricky. I can tell his world right here. I can cova the the the only thing that the only thing that attitude is that they said. They don't know what kind of creatures that could be because the water there's. Obviously very high temperature, because it's so close to the core of the year. And if you take anything out of it, it would immediately die. We. I. Could see that. Which is a? scrapple Layton scalpels extrapolate extrapolate. Go on! About Franken. Bucking extrapolate me. Don't. You, because you've already you're already to for to. A REFRESHMENT! Yes, please share. I mean we can get you we can. We can afford to give your own. Okay awesome. He wants to go get him a freshman. ASSHOLE. Bush. Still. Heart. What was the guy's name? The documentary on Netflix he was. He's a conspiracy theorist, but he claimed more. About the claim to be reverse engineering, extraterrestrial technology. God, Damn. What was his name? I know you're talking about. He's a little. Out there there's there's certain things that are like a little bit too crazy, even for me like. Come on Sarah. AVAS are yeah. Alba's are. Yeah. A little too crazy for you. Well if you're having a sexual relationship with the next. Alien that nobody else can see. That that begs to. That he's he had sex daily. I didn't watch all the whole documentary I. Just know I remember. He was a hot thing for a little bit alien fucking. Was this the guy that was. The. There's this one guy that. was. Did he have a relationship with Blue Avian Aliens? You walked into something over here. That was a movie called Avatar. Bob Lazar was the one that worked there well. He claimed to work there, but I don't know that and that's what I'm saying disputed. They said he did, but he has proof that he did I. Don't think he was saying he was. Buchan aliens I think. Be Talking about a different. He said that he was reverse engineering. The craft and statkraft there he was reverse engineering. You know just. So that the united. States build similar technology basically. I'm going to reverse my statement and we'll figure out who your because. Yeah, because. There's a different person I'm thinking about that as a job. He was on guy. What's up? What's Guy Drug? I think guy a TV in. This. Way Too fucking literally. Relationship. UKIAH anything on this show later we love you. He's GonNa fucking got me every time I think i. Honestly. I didn't even know a fucking. Sarcasm was until Jesse Smith got. Together I got a question. What's the one what is the? Let's say. How can I word this? How do I WANNA wear this? What's the best thing you learned? From donate master. FAULK! Shows canceled, so you can say any focus to completely cancelled. Yeah, I think so yeah. I'm. Honestly for for me. L. May get out of my shell. That it did. It really. Slowly before I mean. Sheltered anger issues. home schooled until the eleventh and Twelfth Grade Still learning how to have like. Social interactions or whatnot, but but but it. It brought me out of my shell at it made it easier for me to talk to people it. It showed me what I could do. Like when you're up against like a rock and a hard place like are you GonNa? What what's your metal like? What's your character? How far can you push yourself? And maybe I took battled bit to literally to I. Mean like going convention. Afterwards like Oh yeah. I could do this at five or six hours. What can I do in seventy four? We. It went from. Watching you have your little tiny tight circle your comfort zone, yeah! To me and James would be across the the. The way the the next eyler across. And we'd always be watching you. 'cause it would. I'm not saying this in a negative way at all. When show would open. You were just. Happy. Go lucky in an all of a sudden. It's like especially at troy shows when the mass of people start rolling wasn't medicated that. I would be like Oh. My God James I would turn around and look and you literally you like you. Hug Us in the morning and you'll get over, and you start to get ready to turn around and there's like. Ninety people. Standing. And you just turn back, so one of US would go over. We got you I don't think I. could have made it without you. You with me in Rome. That one time that I actually had a meltdown. It was rough like I didn't even know what a meltdown was didn't know I had ask Burgers at the time. which is an autism spectrum disorder? I do know. I didn't know at the time like loud noises, too many people asking me questions would would would simians like an anxiety attack so i? I thought it was happening Zayed's attack. But I literally had a meltdown in the middle of the fucking convention in Front Jackie and Lou, and the entire, fucking world famous pro team. And I started stemming, and literally just like stuttering like like walking around in circle, like I literally like look like a broken record where I'm trying to try to pack everything up and I. I would reach down into my suitcase. And then like, stand up to try and like my machine away, but halfway through pretty machine I mean we were just going in circles fucking chasing my tail in like stemming. I don't even know what the fuck that was I only got my diagnosis a couple of years ago and I've only just started to be comfortable talking about it. But it's like the more that you know like the more you know about yourself, but I wouldn't have gone down that journey of finding myself if it wasn't for ink master if it wasn't for going to their shows and and going through that because it's like a crucial. You don't know what your stressors are. Your breaking point is until you've actually broken, but. In my grandfather, he was in the US in the Marines. During World War Two, and he died when I was about five, but I remember sitting on his bed and he would say to me. It's not a matter of if you're going to break. It's win. You'RE GONNA break. It's what you do after you break. That determines who you are. and. Then I would sneak in candy. He was diabetic. I shouldn't have done. That was the same show. Mom Dot of lung? Cancer Washes land there. She's like here. Yeah, my sister came in times. Obviously, upset, I'm like! Well tell no at this point at this point, I mean at a certain point. You're like fuck it. But but yeah. Like it. But just basically like one last thought on that point is you know? A lot of people go on that show for for different reasons and I don't think. I went on it for any reason budget. Just test myself so going through the ringer getting off all of that thrown off my game broken. Put back together. I found an amazing support system with you. James with Jackie in Lieu. Bravo. I met him We met in Massachusetts, actually at one time one time I did the show. Live for your dining two thousand twelve. Was Two thousand thirteen. It was right after I challenge. That was close. But don't challenge or Non Thirty Am. Say! She was. When I mentioned about is meeting in Milan. Like And she was at this briefing this before the district from as I think, was this issues that knows this. Never, question the dates. Or only when it comes to tattooing. but you. You've come a long way and it's. The show for me. It was hard watching hard for me watching you on the show When people were giving shit that crazy crazy I'm like. Yeah, she is crazy crazy. Fuck she fucking owning it. It is what it is. I'd never I'd never seen anywhere from five. Until, I guess put inside the Guest Butler. Some that what was I. To me in this. Patients are have in these like Oh. This is gonNA. Be Interesting to see what you're see. And then within an hour. Is Complete understanding, and then we were taken off, and then some of this stuff up i. find it so funny. We were talking about autism taking. Always cracking up which next and then when we're talking about we. Took back at the hotel. From. For about an hour. Bullshit Yeah Yeah. Yeah. I mean like if you can't laugh at yourself, you know. fucking. Somebody! Really close to me. told me something that has shaped, not you. You told me Scotty. Stay Humble and stay hungry. I, mean you have to? Do. And Paul. We were talking about Paul last night where we're talking about and he's like. Paul's been twenty five years. And it's like. Somebody asked him says. Have you stayed where you are? GonNa stay, humble. don't don't go. Don't go up there and try to ride that Shit. Stay humble, stay who you are, and you'll be fine longevity. Don't use this hater bullshit. I'm looking at you, haters. Hate! ROB Josh. All of his close friends. Become Josh Brandon. On a short, we were going to try and catch him on a off day, and he cut us off really fast, yeah, the second new. Together. Ricky. I gotta go y'all call you later like Shit. He's onto. I got a client to client. All Right Sarah. Were in an hour or two I'll try. I'm trying to cut these down a little bit. What's other than? Stay humble. Was the message you want to give everybody way, ask her the question. You asked me Rinky which one the one where if you had thirty seconds to say. The whole world attended for thirty seconds. What would you say you just asked her? and. Go. Well all your dreams. Never stopped, pushing never stopped trying shoot for the stars. Because if you, if you miss your one point, you're, you might be dead and floating in space, but you're still going to be a still going to be up there. As a really, it was really dumb. Time to think that through. Talking seconds. Work, fucking hard. Don't sleep, don't he? Just? Yourself! Mother prepared. Doesn't. Show. THEM SLEEP AREN'T. Last meal. filet mignon mashed potatoes Broccoli with soy sauce. The Best Answer I've heard yet was. I say Christie asked Pooch says. If you were on death row. What would be your last minute? He said. A Bola White Rice. And I sat there for a second I'm like fucking I said really, he says yeah. He said because I would each one one by one. and. It was like that would prolong. Mush it for a little while. He's perfect sense. Well, no I! I want the soya sauce, because like for for, and they go on so I wanNA. Make a huge fucking mess. Hours, release Oh. Got! To Mother Teresa's. As miserable as possible for whoever's. Cleanup this soy sauce. Throw Oh my. Sarah do the. Shop. Stuff gets the shop. Shout out and the people that work there and instagram. All right well I've been here Pittsburgh for a while. I own wild child Tattoo Pittsburgh. You can file US follow us at while child. Tattoo PG H on instagram. I have some amazing people that work with me. Nicky Harris Tattoo Got Jake Henry. J J Henry Touch on instagram. I'm Sarah Miller. You can follow me at Sarah Miller Tattoo. You're noticing the trend on these instagram handles. We're very creative. Yeah, we our shop as well. Child Tattoo and we're on our Brookline Boulevard, and this is this year's our eight year anniversary. So it's been that long, yeah. I opened it up two months before they recruited me for rank master congratulations. Thank you now you get a chance to ask any question you want to ask him. This is a new thing. We're doing on the show Scotty. Go ahead. You don't get. To. First Sarah. Any question unfiltered. Scotty to answer unfiltered unfiltered. Here, I'm I'm listening man. Thing at all. Anything at all. Don't waste it. Make it good Lord. Have Mercy Rob. Just fucking and your honest opinion knowing me all these years. Did you say you're proud of me. Yeah one hundred percent, and that's kind of where I was going a while ago. Joe Me Tell Ya. Yes, be brutal. Or can and I'll. I won't go to one thing just because, but I'll. We'll talk about that. lacina highs molyneaux half. I am proud of you for being able to take the the rationing. That's been thrown at you. With. The the most speed of Everson hardness of of Shit can be thrown at somebody. and IT BOUNCE OFF Publicly. To where you can pick up the phone and call me or somebody else. And discuss it, but in the public you're still. Happy Go lucky Sarah because you know you have to be that. You have to play that part. You're still human. And your emotional, so you take that down to where? We're family. But the way you're able to keep going with the things that were being said about you that were. Really Harsh. In which you just called me about a while back to ask me about someone else, and I said No. That's not where that came from, but that was a two year thing or somebody had started something, and it wasn't true, but by the time it got back around. Other people are calling you or not calling you, but say schip hundred your back, and then it gets back to you. Yeah I'm Sarah on Drugs Sarah's on drugs. There is no drugs. No, she's not. She's got some other issues, but not Okocha drugs, and at the same time when me no one. What was going on I'm not telling Your Business, but I might know. She's Donald fucking drugs. But the the the me, being proud of you is being able to continue going. And not stopping and then being where you're at. So. That's that's huge to me. because. Again of of some of the things that were going down. And in me being. With you from the start. And seeing what you've gone through other stuff. And being able to keep continue going. That's huge to me just again because I've seen it. And other people have no idea what you've gone through. To be where. You know this shit wasn't handed you fucking silver platter. Farthest thing. and as far as your work goes, you know I kind of on. This is one thing that people get mad at me about. And I must say so because I say policy. That didn't buy in here. Because you used to send me pictures of stuff, you were doing early, honest and like. Even though it's an amazing piece. Could be, better. It could be, but the thing is is like. You and Tj were out this. Hold on. I got to change that that's bothering me. You and Tj were always the worst. About. Sending me something and then I'll be like. Whatever this of that. To where it got to? ESCO. In Your Life. Really, that's it and I'm like it's fucking amazing. What else can I say? I can't be the only person that you that you get this from. You have to do so then I would nitpick the fuck out of something and try hardest hit to find something then I would find it. Fix this. Shit. That's the one little thing you're going to pay you this. Is You doing this to me? You know so. I'm GONNA use TJ again. We're talking about this earlier. TJ Can't get any better than what he is. He's you can't do it. I think you can hold on. I'll, I'll go down this one with you, okay? Because I'll say, said about your black and gray took. How? Much. Better. Of A tattoo. Can you do when you can overlay a black and gray photograph? Over black and gray tattoo, and you cannot find any discrepancy in either peace. You can't do it better. Yeah, you can have. Composite. The image create more originality more depth. We talked to more ideas, but if that's if that's the piece that you're doing deadset, we'll talk about Jesus in a second. Home! We'll talk about using second because that comes into this. It will because it's changing something from the picture. Composition okay. But that's actually talking about. This portrait, this fucking portrait. And the client says I won't this. Then you. That's, but that's what I'm talking about. Those are the things that I'm talking about what if you can take? Pass that to a point where the client? That's fine, but. But Butch. figure out a way to make the Tattoo. Realistic than the photograph to capture the soul behind that person when I sit down and do a Tattoo I. Get to know that client for about an hour or two before I even put pen to paper. I WANNA. Get to know about them if I'm doing a portal and even know everything about that person. Because I. Don't I I know I can do fucking pixel by Pixel rendering of whatever picture that they give me, but I wanNA. Make something that. Is, more alive than a photograph I. WanNa capture a bit more of that person's personality, so the more you know about the person invokes them. Yeah I can agree with that, but the point is this. The rules in order to break point I'm trying to make with TJ specific, okay? Is His black and gray is on point. His color work is amazing to me. I liked TJ pools color work better than his black gray. people look like I'm fucking nuts when I say that but I'm like. You haven't seen a lot of his color work because he doesn't do a lot, but I've seen a lot of his color work coming up over the years. That dude's color work is amazing. I want him to do more. Personally of color work, yeah, and I think he would. Be that would be where he could better himself, yeah. Because he is having to change, he's having to do stuff different I agree with you on changing some stuff on the black and gray. But I think for him after what he's done for so long. And the one thing he's been doing. The change for him would be the color stuff. As far as you go When I look at your stuff. It doesn't surprise me. It doesn't shock me. Okay Because I'm used to that from you I'm used to your perfection in yourself. I know that when you do a piece that you put your heart into, and you're all I've there with you wash? Do the whole fucking things. So there's there's a difference in me. Looking at your pace, and in San somebody else looking like oh! Shit and I get it. And, they look at me and I'm like also Manila. Really I'm like. Don't. Right. But you know what I'm saying. Googly I'm saying they're. They're googly out over looking at your piece like Omar God. It's fucking amazing and I get that. Because they to see it a lot, but. I do because I see in different people. I said different different artists. That's it's so much so much, but people get upset with me because I don't show the same enthusiasm as somebody that doesn't know you. Seize, the pieces that makes sense. Now. Do you, but do you see what I'm saying? For me. So if if I'm looking at one of your tattoos. It doesn't shock an army. Like it would somebody that doesn't know you personally. Why what is shocking all you? Why would I mean the thing is like I mean like I know like I. I do really good work, but like I don't understand why people would be in shock and awe shit, but there are people that didn't shock of all of a lot of people shit, not just you but. Even some Rick Shit. That's what I'm saying. Peace was but I was there, too, so we and I went over and talking to him about it. But it. Did I not did we talk about? You came right straight now. Claiming rights to it. I'm not I decide that at all. I said we talked about it. Okay. When I'm there talking to you but I'm talking to him just like. Talk Him right now. Putting out one no seeing. But it's it's just different is on something, but when he was done. I wasn't in. You know what I'm saying. It was fucking amazing. But, some people get upset with me sometimes when I'm just me. I honestly. I. was going to blame. The spurs because like I. Literally Your stuff, but I mean like I. Walk Up to everybody like I'm not in shock and awe like what is it? Beyond the first convention that I went to, I mean like watching like Halen like what can be done. And like just like opening my eyes like that. This is possible. I don't think I've ever been. In in shock. Were shocked, was a big word or completely off. Admire people. It's not like it's not like a a negative competition like when I go into her show and I'm looking at these these pieces whatever and they're amazing. Every single piece is unique. Every single piece is something that that makes it so like. So cool, I like You'll get something from done yet. Club or Santa Barbara or or Aren God I mean like Valby or like Meghan Gene, like there's certain, and it's always very subjective, because like some of them are flawless. Some of them have have different things, but like each other's own personal flavor and character, and you look at it. And I don't know I. Don't really find fault or flaw with anybody else's stuff because I look at it and I see the overall picture, but it's not like I'm like Oh my God. That's like so far beyond me I. Don't know how like anybody could do that. No can't anybody can, but you can see the passion in it, so you appreciate it and I don't know where I'm going with. Appreciate the passion what you do and. It's. Right it's that's that's the word enthusiasm so when I look at us you as again I'm getting peg like Superman, you did in Greensboro. fucking ridiculous. But when when you got that Tattoo Yeah That's nice. You know that's how we talk each other yeah. TIKTOK. When when you lift. Yeah, I can't believe that's all you said to her I'm like what are you talking about this? What I'm talking? What do you mean? He said that was fucking amazing, and if you remember he own and on. In the shop. That Tattoo how all was! But I'm like it's. It's an amazing Tattoo Dude, but you have to just. It is what it is. You know. And and that's where I'm saying IT'S A. It's other people that are the ones that are in shock and awe. Subject. Time brought. This element. You have a high standard. Of course you know, but it's. It's it's like. I don't know I. Guess like it's like a little naive era whatever birds, but basically like with every single piece it has its own soul has its own. What would surprise me if you did? This is good is if you did a war plane? That, had two propellers on, and you left one off. That would surprise me in shock me. You know where I went with that Josh. Did that on a piece and hold on hold on? Yeah, so listen. That's. Twenty twenty two thousand people. Twenty two thousand people get on Instagram and star Oh my God this is amazing and I'm like. I sit there and wait. Wait wait, and finally I type in a message on my. It's okay, but that bitch is gonNA fly in circles. Because welcome propeller. People start attacking me. How can you talk to him? I'm like it's missing a fucking propeller. And all you people are sitting here Jerkin him off. So Josh Tattoo and somebody else while this is. His phone was going bop this crazy. He calls me after just Tattoo says. What the Fuck did you do? People were railing now. And? Finally he gets on and I. Said Dude You. You left to propeller off that fucking. Plane you did today. He's my God called. The customer says you've got to come back up here. I gotta fix. This propeller guy comes back up same day. Propeller Josh on Instagram and says by the way the guy that your cousin out is the one that sets your appointments. And, then people start aw, I'm sorry I'm yeah, fuck you on. Down you ain't getting tattooed this year, motherfucker. That's when I get surprised and shocked is when one of you yeah Josh or somebody else. It's in that realm. Other people put y'all in. 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Same thing today. Potato Tomato. In some I have no idea I know, there's green beans. Then Sang Moses. And that children of Israel this, Sean. Under the law. Is. BROWNS FAN was. Part Of Coffee. Virus Heights. Darn thing bar bar. Call! I. Your own good. CARE. Thirteen. You are destroyed forever and you'll never be. Guys are welcome. covid nineteen is now destroyed. You're welcome like there you got that was good all right, so we are we done. Are we taking a break? Baby still sleeping. Okay, I'm pausing this. And we're back. That was a good break. We took a pause for the calls. I. I've been thinking about something. Ricky since we came back in, we've never talked about my ties. No, no, we've talked about that. I've I've totally talked about that. I would really really like to hear you say. God bless US everyone. I would really like to hear you. Say God bless US everyone. Why would. Couple everyone. Not, really what I thought it was gonNA. Be Sarah, did you? Do you think it was gonNA be a little? Bit More feeling. Said again with a bit more feeling. Like, like you just woke up Christmas morning. And there's a big. Goose. On the table and you're fixing to in the fourteen hundreds. Yeah, could you? Could you please do that? You have to say like. God blesses. Everyone blesses everyone. Felt that one, thank you A. FUCKING! All of I didn't want to I. wanted it to be you. But. It wasn't me you make. It was full. Didn't do you? That, was it? Sarah has the cut a short. I'm sorry guys. We actually actually started out mother rabbit holes which will continue later. I would love to come back on this podcast if you if you wanted to you with my fucking dumb ass. Tang, self, you already know this anytime. What would you say in Ricky? It was good. The way it ended up was was. Way Different than I thought it was going to end up. It was. About. It was. Tattoo. Upset that openly so many times such why. I think it's I am. But I think it's more of It's not what it used to be obviously which. Tune the world out on. You think I don't. I do. What if it still bothers me? What bothers me? I think is is people and we said this earlier. Is the. Humble the humbleness Gome. It's always disappointing. Supporting today. But it's it's beyond the rockstars I think it's more of like an entitlement for a lot of people. In, it's not like a flat link across the border. Whatever I think it's just like everybody's looking for sponsorships. Everybody's looking for for for handouts and I think it's I. Think it's something that is becoming a spoke. A little bit and I mean the endorsements in sponsorships are are nice, but I was actually talking about the other day I. I've never asked anybody. You know I I always use a product for at least six months before. I, even accept a sponsorship and I don't accept everything. If I like a product doesn't matter from I will endorse I will use it and I will tell anybody that wants to fuck it. Listen to me proudly on about how awesome it is regardless of if I'm sponsored or not, and I don't want fucking Shit from you. You know if if you want to shoot me a few fucking, bottle the ink or AFTERCARE here, they're mean like thank you. That's fucking amazing, but like I don't need it if it's a product that I I love and I support. And it's something that I think is a game changer like I'm just going to say. It's a game changer. Or anything that helps you hone your craft. Is You know you you WanNa? Tell people what it is, but at the same time you know, and you know where I've been with this. A big caught in the middle a lot of times. In that give me this. Give me that I'm like dude here. Try IT Glides School whatever? but then I've seen those. Obscene certain people. That are sponsored. But will totally use somebody else's shit. As you know other tattooed on his whatever and I'm might really and open. Really. Saying now I if I'm sponsored by somebody, it doesn't matter how many times like I'm sponsored by World Famous Inc.. And no matter how many times anybody else asked me to try their INC I'm just not going to do it. I mean it's the same thing. When I was sponsored by Eternal Jackie kept trying to get me on the World Famous Bandwagon. You even really hey, tried to shit and I was like no I'm sponsored by eternal and until journal drop me I. I use use anybody else's Hank. True Story. YOU'RE GONNA. Be Loyal. You GotTa be humble. And I got a got to respect. The process you have to you have to. Leave me like if you if you if you. Like all of us like we get up each morning I'm like we're fucking artist that actually get paid for our. We get to do something we love in and get to change people's lives. It get to make fucking smile. We walk in bugging miserable and depressed, and they walk out fucking happy as a clam. We do that like we're. We're fucking therapists we can, because it was somebody for twelve fucking hours, and they're paying tattoo, but literally we're here for them to like the foil the problems off of. It can, and it's not like we're gonNA fucking judge Moore anything. It's it's it's amazing and and we have to. I mean look the gratitude that I. Feel for being able to wake up and do this every single day. It's just like. You can't put it in words. You really can't. And I mean like a lot of stuff that I do it I don't even fucking posted online that much I really should. But. I, don't know. Since I've been a kid man. I mean like I'm just like there's there's so much more you get. The more that you share the. Same thing like when you're going on. TV, show or whatever like? Experience reduced the sound bites so like if if you're constantly living your life to post on social media, your your life has been reduced to the sound bites of social media and those pilots. You're going to remember rather than the actual memories that you have during each experience. That's not yeah I mean. Let's keep doing you new sir. Just keep doing you. Someone up up. You've moved. Your microphone actually had someone recently late. Mid Compensation was looking to my instagram and halfway through like confessing. Interrupted, movements. happening. Balance you can. Talking about I had. Have Been A. Rather, I stopped engaging with. US my guest. Problem. Swept Right now in your weight. I mean like I I really don't fucking follow anybody besides like like the people that I've had like one or two. You'll get our actions with like if you if you become like a a friend of mine for like look up to or. Or something like that like I'm probably going to follow you, but. The reason why I have my instagram account it's to. Basically like engaged with the artistic community in a way, that's so much more interactive than what magazines used to be. You'd have to wait for the magazine to be published two or to funneled Oh. Yeah in. How how many times did you go through the same magazines? Or find one and go back to like. This. Memory. Out and put them on the wall. Hey, let's see she took. One of my friends recently us and when he was A. Junior tour in. Afghanistan. And Hussein that. Send him a letter. And talk about the stuff how he's GonNa mortifies bikes like pictures of pause in. Pavement pitches type man. How cool is now wouldn't even gave. The News. This is what he was just like like like when when? You fixated on that stuff so much well, the tactile analog as opposed to the digital. where? For me like I it it means more to actually have to print it out in front of me to even look like Google calendar. In my hands! But. I don't know like maybe connects you like a little bit more just because like physically touching something. As opposed to locate something for a few seconds the scrolling past I have a bad habit of taking screen shots of every everything that I like like whether it's. Tattoos well I, a folder like fucking ten thousand screen shots on my phone number I have no more space, but. Maybe if you get rid of some of those dragons. More space. was on on my phone okay, okay. We're not gonNA. We're not gonNA. Go there again. Ricky, I know how bad you want to. We'll do that later. Next week. I'm going to look her in the eye. US have to. It is what it is. It's out there. Is Out there? Wow! We're definitely definitely going to do this again. And again, I'm I'm I'm glad you came on and I'm glad you came down to see Tim and I know he's. He's tickled to death. You showed up. On I'm glad I was able to make a I'm. I'm Tardy Shit. I've had a fussy baby today well, she's going through a growth spurt. Tell Zach. We're sorry. That we kidnapped you for a little while I was only supposed to be here for like a half an hour. Credit a little bit. He's seen you for the past year I've only seen you for the past twenty five minutes plus two hours I'm Josh you might hear this later? But anyway I love you. And? We'll just leave it at that so I'll let you have last word. Thank you for having me on and. this is this has been really really fun and I can't wait to do it again, so love peace and chicken grease mother. Thank you for joining us on this week's episode of shelter with your host Scott Whitaker be sure to tag us and give us a follow on social media and Electric Radio or on the web at electric. Radio DOT. com, thanks for listening and we'll see next time.
Monday, August 26, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"<music> welcome to the monitor daily podcast. It's monday august twenty six. Thanks for joining us. I'm a million new breeding for sarah miller yana. I'm timmy broader. Every crisis has its wake up during the refugee flow into europe in in two thousand fifteen which sarah covered as the monitor's european correspondent it was the death of three year old island purdy that galvanized international response response to syrian refugees for the climate crisis. The watershed moment could be news last week of the spread of fires in the amazon. It began with a tweet by french president emmanuel macron. Our house is burning literally. He wrote calling on leading industrial nations to act act over the weekend. Suddenly the amazon became the subject of discussion around dinner tables and water coolers and of sporadic protests worldwide tensions over amazon development our long standing during sarah's time as our latin america correspondent she wrote about gas pipeline pipeline in two thousand seven that angered international environmentalists but locals and amazon us were quick to explain that millions of people. I'll have to make a living in the so-called longs of the earth but brazilian president gyro bolsonaro has angered the international community over policies. He's the tip the balance toward business over environmental protection this time group of seven leaders in biarritz france held him to account threatening threatening to kill a trade deal between the european union and america sir countries and boycott brazilian products for now mister bolsonaro has appeared to shift course sending in the military to tackle the flames for all the talk about the end of multi-lateralism in an age of nationalism. This weekend made clear that international cooperation is still very much the way forward. It's still unclear. If this year's amazon fires i will lead to long-term policy change in south america we can at least take solace in the fact that the world is watching and ready to respond to the world's challenges now to our five stories including a search for patterns and president trump's positioning efforts in hungary to protect mothers and children from domestic abuse and an architectural. Oh my gosh to the peace and stillness of a composer's work in our first story. The burgeoning interest of african americans in their ancestry is hoping to clarify family identities and heal the wounds loans of slavery it shaping everything from baby names to views on reparations from the ancient biblical rhythm a begats. It's to the modern marketing genetic testing companies. The search for family history is more than a matter of personal curiosity over the ages. It has been and used claim political power royal lineage and social standing now for better or worse is shaping the conflicted american narrative multiculturalism cultural and the growing interest in african american ancestry has important social and economic implications several recent developments are credited with spiking interest in the four hundredth anniversary of the arrival of transatlantic slavery to the united states day include the two thousand eighteen film black panther in a burst of new successful cultural institutions such as the national museum of african american history and culture in washington as well as the dramatic nick national memorial for peace and justice in montgomery alabama which honors more than forty four hundred lynching victims once you get that identity back a sense of pride and place and belonging that sense of being an individual you then play a more confident and active role in your personal life and your family life your local and even your national global community says gina page co-founder of genetic testing for it gives you a better foundation to participate. This story was reported by clara germany in nashville tennessee for the monitor. Follow the signal not the noise has been a frequent adage during the trump presidency but both allies and critics of the president say sometimes the noise loyd is part of the signal after one of the most volatile weeks of the trump presidency to date with policy flipflops contradictory signals market gyrations and provocative assertions separating the signal from the noise can be well nigh impossible keeping multiple storylines going or changing the the subject abruptly like say the united states wanting to buy greenland our tactics frequently employed by the president and were on display at the group of seven meeting of world leaders this weekend. Donald trump is a master of deflection says kathleen hall jamieson director of the annenberg public policy center at the university of pennsylvania hansel vania that affliction comes she adds when there's news that goes against his interest and in this case it was stories that suggested the economy maybe heading into recession ultimately. It's all about control says former republican national committee chairman michael steele he's creating bright eight new shiny objects to make the press manic into largely confused the american people as to what's real and what isn't says mr steele a trump critic trump ally who defends the administration on cable news disagrees. He may ramble but he's driving home real point. He's delivering on his promises. Promises historian reported by linda feldmann in washington for the monitor often the the media focus on economic challenges such as widening inequality persistent poverty or stagnant incomes. That's important but so is taking king note of real progress at a time of some big economic challenges. Here's a brighter respective. The world in general has been making some big. The economic progress over the long term poverty is way down. Incomes are up. There's even some headway on inequality. If you look at the global picture this doesn't mean the world can rest easy when it comes to the basics of work opportunity and safety nets and nations around the world but it does show that there's progress us for those nations to defend at a time when the public focused lately has been on everything from a trade war and fears of recession to political unrest led by progress in asia extreme poverty has fallen from about thirty six percent of the world's population in nineteen ninety two ten percent today and and the world bank is targeting an achievable goal bringing that below three percent by twenty thirty more open trade for your markets and stable governments have been big parts of yeah that story big gaps remain income inequality remains high even as asia's catch up to the west has rebalanced the global distribution of income somewhat an inequality has been widening within many nations which hints at why many people in the united states for example are questioning whether capitalism needs reform people realize that it's not enough to know how g._d._p. Is growing economist gabriel zukerman said in a conversation this month with with the group equitable growth in washington. They want to know how income is growing for people like them. Story was reported by mark trumbull for the monitor checkout checkout graphics on this topic in today's issue or see us monitor dot com slash daily families hold an honored honored position in the rhetoric of hungary's rolling party but where are hungry mothers and children left when the government's deeds do not live up to the ideals espoused hungry government is pushing for larger families to tackle the country's shrinking population but when the members of those families experienced domestic abuse or violence the government's interest in getting involved seems to disappear byzantine bureaucracy failures for us to recognize abusive situations miscarriages of justice are common in hungary according to women's rights and child protection experts outdated data and research on these issues reflect a state that cares more about making families bigger than safer. The protection of women is completely missing from the government's. It's action plan says ana belen of the hungarian women's lobby key government agencies declined to comment on the issue to the monitor complicating. Locating matters is the broader government crackdown on civil society. There is a witch hunt against civil society associations and ngos and among that women's is rights ngos says julius bronze lawyer helping domestic violence survivors. They don't let us near the state officers. We used to train police. Officers continues to train children protection officers. We used to train judges now. He can't do that because of this which hunting that is a political decision. The story was reported by domenico and dura zouk and budapest hungary for the monitor stillness spring sweet relief to a fast paced world and international composers music offers just that fittingly his country tree celebrates his lights work in a new center nestled in a forest few other living composers have reached such a worldwide audience has his minimalist compositions take listeners deep into a tonal landscape that echoes the scenery of his homeland estonia after studying gregorian chant he learned what a cosmic secret is hidden in the art of combining two three notes as he explained to german journalist exiled for decades because antagonism from the former soviet of mr <unk> returned to estonia in two thousand ten since then and he's been lauded for his role in shaping temporary music and for the recognition he brings to his country to honor his legacy estonian government working with the composer's hoses family commissioned the <unk> at center thirty thousand six hundred square foot pentagon shaped structure is located an hour outside the capital of lean gene the center aims to bring researchers and lay people closer to his music into the creative process calling him a cultural ambassador president care st col. You allied said that the composer's work continues to say more in today's confusingly multipolar world than perhaps apps ever before that this project became reality in a country of only one point three million people testifies to how culture and mister peres role in it is embraced by estonians. This story was reported by isabel de palmiro in la la desma stony for the monitor a now commentary on trust from the monitor's editorial board when the world's central bankers met this past weekend they had one big thing on their minds how to restore trust in their ability to use financial tools to help the world economy in france meanwhile will the group of seven nations. Were trying to restore trust in their economic tools. Restoring trust in societal institutions is now the world's the greatest challenge says on helguera head of the organization for economic cooperation and development more people around the world have low oh confidence in institutions to help them navigate a turbulent world in the united states a pew survey found about half of adults lincoln decline of trust among americans to a belief that people are not as reliable as they used to be. This has spilled over to a decline of trust in the federal government. These trust hurdles are being addressed in fact the pupil found some eighty four percent of americans believe it is possible to improve the level of of confidence people have in the government it only takes the right mix of shared values and norms such as personal integrity institutional transparency. Let's see and fair administration of rule of law. That's a wrap for the the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at c._s. Monitor dot com slash daily and thanks for joining us today. Come back tomorrow. One will explore the many services that the amazon rainforest provides the world. Today's christian science ritual perspective contributor writes the understanding of what constitutes true character changed her view of herself making her kinder less selfish rush and more purposeful. You can find the column in today's issue or at c._s. Monitor dot com slash daily. We want to give a quick thing store staff including today's audio production team rebecca sulan in care and jeff tartan. This podcast is produced by the christian science monitor copyright twenty nineteen.
Tuesday, March 24, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the. Monitor daily podcast. It's Tuesday march twenty four. Thanks for joining us. I'm Dave Scott. I'm Jessica Mendoza like a slow motion video of a building demolition. We watched the best laid plans of my nephew's wedding crumbled James and his fiancee. Megan live near Seattle as their march twenty. First wedding date approached the lockdowns spread and as the pandemic chase their date. They responded defiantly. The wedding is on but local officials had public to protect the reception venue was abruptly closed then the wedding venue shuttered undeterred. They adjusted just like many couples who have recently canceled receptions and honeymoons but not their weddings James and Meghan would have a small courthouse wedding. Actually it was a courthouse steps. Winning the judge met them outside and perform the ceremony standing six feet away. The reception also found a new venue guests from across the country dressed up in suits and ties and sparkly dresses in gathered on zoom for a Hollywood squares like reception. The bride groom and best man joined from their car. We took turns toasting newlyweds. Then we danced in our little video squares uptown. Funk was this the wedding of their dreams no but there were ribald jokes and tales peals of laughter over outfits and Kearse of joy everything you could want in a wedding. Take that Corona virus love conquers now to our five stories including testing democratic boundaries in Israel a new twist on juvenile justice New Orleans and building a sense of community in a Romanian village. Our first story we look at navigating the concern for family members or disregarding public health directives often teens and seniors and how to express compassion and care from a distance the covered nineteen pandemic his shined a on generational differences and generated a blame game about who is not doing their part to confront it at one. Extreme of the spectrum are the spring breakers crowding beaches in Florida symbolizing. A generation that unfazed by their own personal risk is not putting collective public health. I at the other end. Our baby boomers who health officials say may be among the most vulnerable but anecdotally. They've sometimes shown as little caution about their health as youth as they continue to go out and socialize. This is mounting pressure on the so called. Sandwich generation those caring for both older and younger than themselves. Many in this group are battling to get their aging parents to expert advice on social distancing at the same time they are raising kids who may not understand why they need to make sacrifices unlike any they have ever known. This is a really stressful time for people. Because you can't just jump on a plane and go to your parents to Kathleen South an elder care mediator and president of K. T. Beck enterprises in Omaha Nebraska. There's a greater sense of separation. This story was reported by Sarah Miller. Yana in Toronto and Sarah to New York for the Monitor civilian compliance can be more difficult to bring about in free societies. We look at Israel as an example of leaders confronting the corona virus while testing the limits of democracy and rule of law. Even if it's temporary is the corona virus of vulnerability for democracies as leaders Marshall all the power at their disposal to address the crisis. Some see Israel as a canary in a coal mine. Prime Minister Benjamin. Netanyahu has taken swift aggressive action to contain covert nineteen winning praise from supporters. But critics say he and his Likud Party have taken advantage of the crisis to attempt a coup against the rivals who won a majority of parliamentary seats and recent elections. In the latest standoff. The Supreme Court has intervened to force the current speaker of the parliament to step aside and he has refused to comply the former head of the Shin Bet. Israel's equivalent of the FBI warned that the government had effectively disabled the judiciary and legislature and an Israeli historian of international renown has dubbed it the first corona virus dictatorship Johan and plus ner president of the Israel Democracy Institute. Jerusalem says that the broader conclusion from the Israeli case is that under the disguise of the corona crisis. Reckless politicians can use it to violate democratic norms and conventions cultivated over decades. This story was reported by data craft in Tel Aviv. Israel for the Monitor. This is a story about developing a broader sense of justice. Her reporter looks at a program in New Orleans where teachers become legal advocates for students to keep them in school instead of jail every year. More than one million. Teenagers including highschoolers arrested in the US students to go to jail are at risk of going down to reverse path Lisa. Maria roads a social worker. New Orleans wants to spring that trap. Her nonprofit helps young people in legal trouble and trains teachers to support students so that they can get out of jail and back in school. It's an unusual mission that puts teachers in courtrooms asking judges to consider the education of young suspects at the high school where Miss Road used to work. Roughly two hundred students nearly one in four need legal help. Each year students would be missing from class. I would call home and find that they'd been arrested. She says it kept happening. Her nonprofit also works with unauthorized immigrants. Who need help to continue their education? Whether she's in a criminal court ornamentation court. Miss rose asks judges to weigh the future potential young life when deciding their fate judges also want to know who this child is in front of them says Robert Schwartz illegal scholar Temple University. You're rounding out a portrait of a kit as a human being. This story was reported. Katie rectal in New Orleans for the Monitor. We visited at Transylvania town. That's leveraging its history to draw tourists and is rebuilding a sense of community caroliina Fernande traces. Her family's roots indiscreet Romania back to eleven forty two this story Saxon. Village in Transylvania veered towards collapse after the nineteen eighty nine fall of communism. We gained freedom. She says but we lost the community. Miss for Nolan is director of me. High meniscus trust a British non-governmental organisation operating in Romania. She has helped lead viscous revitalization by engaging the SAXONS Roma Romanians who remain over the past two decades the trust has worked to preserve the region's ethnic and cultural heritage with more than one thousand two hundred forty projects including conservation efforts youth education job training for locals and the planting of more than two point. Five Million Trees Marley's Marquel recalls the village of the nineteen nineties when her family relocated from Germany. No sewage system abandoned houses and few cars. It seemed that the modern times didn't want to touch the villages at the heart of Transylvania. Ms Marquel says in an email interview she credits. The Trust for raising the living standards of the village which now attracts some fifty thousand visitors annually in warmer months tourists. Invade MEDIEVAL fortified church. A UNESCO World Heritage Site. Miss Marquel says these creek transformed into a village where it's worth living. This story was reported by David. Carris in Romania for the Monitor. This week's global poets progress a record number of cities eliminating plastic use in the UK a switch from diesel canal boats to electric power in Amsterdam and to Irish women who won the world's top architecture prize to read this global roundup by Noah Robertson. Go to see us. Monitor dot com slash daily now commentary on European politics from the Monitor's editorial board. If you tally what ails the European Union Corona Virus lockdowns looming recession resurgent Nationalism Brexit. It's amazing that the EU still hold together as a home for twenty seven nations yet this week. The unions leaders are expected to approve. Membership talks with two countries Albania and North Macedonia instead of cowering before illness and other turmoil this community of nearly four hundred fifty million people seeks to expand self such confidence in the EU's health and its power of attraction befits. The proclamation made last year by Ursula Wander Line President of the blocks executive body. She said Europe must step up. Its role in the world. That role includes making sure. Europe's most troubled corner the Balkans is brought into the EU vote by opening talks with the two countries the EU hopes to further push along the reforms. The block also seeks to counter the growing influence of Russia and China in the region. Most of all the EU wants to show that its goal of creating a common home for Europe. His alive and well. That's our news. You can find the full length versions of these stories. Today's issue or at CS MONITOR DOT com slash daily. Thanks for joining us a Mac tomorrow. We're working on a story about a science project for homebound kits involving ice and string. Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective contributor shares. How even when illness seems unavoidable? It's possible to overcome fear and experienced protection and safety find her story in today's issue or at CS MONITOR DOT com slash. Finally a grace note of gratitude to our staff including today's audio production team members. Who are all working from their homes? Jing Peng and Jeff turn this. Podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.
Thursday, June 6, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the monitor daily podcast. It's Thursday, June six. Thanks for joining us. I'm Noel swan reading for Sarah Miller, Yana TIMMY Broderick. Each year. They arrive at Normandy, the veterans who pushed back German platoons after landing in the largest seaborne invasion in history. Towns, people hang out of their windows. Waving American flags commemorating the anniversary of d day, always has a way of transcending politics on the seventieth anniversary in two thousand fourteen which Sarah Miller, Yana covered as the monitor's Paris bureau chief, the unthinkable had happened. Russia had annexed Crimea. Europe's I forced border exchange in decades, yet, she saw Europe's leaders standing together, alongside President Barack Obama and Russian President Vladimir Putin resolute in paying homage to the men, whose bravery helped forge a more stable world, five years later. The unthinkable is happening again with the very alliances borne out of d. Under deep strain, yet President Donald Trump who's been sharply critical of the international. Order gave a reverential speech at the Normandy, American cemetery, and memorial where nine thousand US servicemen are buried, your, the pride of our nation. He told the veterans French president Emmanuel Macron, also thanked the United States, which he said is never greater than when it is fighting for the freedom of others. These words resonate even more powerfully in the presence of the last witnesses of World War, Sarah remembers meeting, Joe style who was nineteen years old when he landed in Normandy, serving in the twenty ninth u s infantry division. He still carried the weight ambiguities of war. I want to say to the French, she told her tearing up if I killed any civilians, I am truly sorry. For a bonus read. We have dusted off a personal essay from our archives, monitored diplomacy. Correspondent Howard la- Frankie reflects on his experience as a high school exchange student living with former members of the French resistance, you can find the link in today's issue. Now onto our five stories for today. Our first story can US foreign policy be a winning campaign issue. Republicans have traditionally had an advantage on national security, but democratic darkhorse Seth Moulton wants to flip that script in the twenty twenty race. Is the presidential race? Still about choosing the next leader of the free world. If so there's remarkably little discussion of the world in the twenty twenty race so far despite poll showing that nearly six and ten voters believe President Donald Trump has made America less respected in the world. The candidate most directly challenging him on foreign policy is forty year old darkhorse Seth Moulton a third term, congressman from Massachusetts as a Trump administration appears edged toward conflict, with Iran. Representative molten a decorated marine who served four combat tours says it's clear, the US hasn't learned the lessons of Iraq, if people who have seen the worst of war, don't stand up and do these jobs in Washington, then people in Washington are going to keep doing this says, Mr. Moulton, who maintains Democrats should quit seating, patriotism, to Republicans. I think we have an historic opportunity to reclaim the mantle of leadership on national security, but with a week before the June twelfth deadline, he has yet to meet the sixty five thousand donor threshold required to enter the first democratic debate and advance his ideas. This story was reported by Krista case, Bryant and Amherst New Hampshire for the monitor. Russia has felt exiled from the west for years. Barred by economic sanctions with China now facing US tariffs and western suspicions over while away. The Kremlin has a potential partner for the future. As presidents using paying Vladimir Putin meet this week, the circumstances could be right to create a breakthrough for economic integration between China and Russia. Russia has been in the equivalent of a defensive crouch for five years now since the annexation of Crimea and has come to you. It's alien nation from the west as a permanent condition, but for China, the US tariffs against Chinese goods, and what it sees as a campaign against some of its leading companies including while way or something, quite new, now, the roads, high speed railways and agricultual enterprises that have been discussed for years may find new, impetus, Mr Putin and Mr. g are also likely to discuss carrying out their mutual trade in currencies other than the US dollar and Russia has recently engaged while way to build its five G infrastructure in both Russia and China, everything is to side. By decisions made at the top. If Mr Putin and Mr. g decide to increase bilateral trade, it will be done says, you're tear off sqi, a China expert of Moscow, if they want to integrate our financial systems, or invest in Russian infrastructure agro-business that will happen when they say so the story was reported by Fred. We're in Moscow for the monitor. Charles j may be the last living native American World War, Two veteran who participated indeed his return to the theater of war is a chance to honor the five hundred native American and first nations soldiers who also served spectacular eagle, feather staffs and colorful flags were hoisted high as combat veteran Charles shea erect in solemn read aloud the names of the native American soldiers buried at the Normandy, American cemetery and memorial. Mr. shea is one of up to fifty thousand North American Indians, who served in World War Two as a combat medic. Private. Shay treated countless wounded soldiers, including many whom he rescued from drowning in the rising tide on d day in nineteen forty four. At this week ceremony, traditionally dressed dancers. And. Beaded moccasins. Nhs where company by drumming and chanting. Flowers were placed in native American veterans, performed a blessing each headstone touching it with an eagle, feather and sprinkling sacred tobacco at the base. Mr. shea is likely the last survivor of the five hundred North American Indian warriors who dropped from the night sky or landed on the beaches on d day. James Francis, a tribal historian for the ponobscott Indian nation of which Mr. Shays member says he's been thinking about how Charles especially exemplifies valor. It's fitting that he is the last native American veteran on hand to close the chapter of the biggest war ever fought on the planet. The story was reported by Harold, E L prints and bunny McBride and France for the monitor. As well way campaigns to build five G telecommunications infrastructure across the world. Germany must reconcile commercial benefit with national security in granting critical access to the Chinese telecom giant. Inside a former army barracks in March, Germany's telecoms regulator set a large clock, ticking, the country's multi-billion dollar auction for bandwith and cutting edge five g mobile networks was on Germany's three main operators, Deutsche, Telekom, Vodafone, and telephone data, all use equipment from Chinese telecom, giant while way in their networks. In fact, while way has been in -sconsin in the German telecommunications landscape for decades, but providing fi g network infrastructure touches a higher level of national security than simple smartphones. Which is why the White House announced may fifteenth, that it was barring while way from selling its products in the US, while Germany is taking different approach the tension highlights the challenges the country will face as it tries to balance security with economic competition as it pursues partnerships with while way. And by extension the China. Government for a long time. The German government and business have operated as if these are two distinct relationships, and they continued to do so says, Samantha Hoffman a cyber policy analyst now Germany finds itself in a difficult position where must deal with the reality that it's bilateral trade relationship with China exposes it to national security risks. His story was reported by Clifford Kuhnen in Berlin for the monitor. Food to classic tales belong to in Asia. At last owes much Jalala dean brings a Muslim perspective to pride and prejudice. Does the world need pride and prejudice and Muslims? Indeed. It does at least it needs as much Lalla teens version, like pride and prejudice Aisha at last is not just about a heroin finding her man. But how she navigates her small communities, narrow expectations for women and their families foibles and financial struggles and finding strength inner voice at all. I shot last package chick lit, but the cover is just the books mask, and this is a book. That's all about the masks. We wear to protect ourselves or please others, where the novel shines is, as immigrant lit painting, nuanced, portrait of an immigrant community and exploring themes, like the intergenerational conflicts that can arise around tradition and assimilation these become even more fraught in our current political landscape with its rising tides of Islam phobia and nationalism yet I Asia at last is light an. Indesit and deeply pleasurable from start to finish. You know, it's a good book, when it's obvious from the start, who was going to get married. And yet you still can't stop reading not to mention the humor from I last page Aisha last is very funny. This review was written by Lisbeth TUI for the monitor. Now, commentary on Sudan from the monitor's editorial board. Much of the world has condemned Monday's massacre in Sudan of more than one hundred pro democracy. Protesters yet on the ground. The reaction among protesters was very different. It may even offer a lesson on how to react to evil acts after the army disbursed thousands of Sudanese outside its headquarters with indiscriminate shooting, the demonstrators simply moved to other parts of the city. They're fight was not with bullets, but with the bullying during Sudan's three decades of repression they set up new barricades called for a general strike and relied on an amazing unity formed during six months of a peaceful sit in the sit in itself was a microcosm of the kind of society that the protesters seek to create it was well organized in supply. Buying food and water. It was inclusive of women workers and the country's diverse ethnic groups people provided lessons in civic education. Organizers took surveys of who should run a transitional civilian government. The army's violence certainly deserves international censure yet the world should also take notice of the dignity, democratic ideals, and nonviolent tactics of Sudan's protesters real power is not come out of the barrel of gun. That's a wrap for the news, you can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue, or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. Thanks for joining us today, come back tomorrow. When monitor reporters airy, Bruin, and Patrick Johnson will explore what it means to find healing in the wake of a mass shooting today's Christian Science spiritual perspective, contributor, considers spiritual basis for seeing and feeling our and others, God, even value and worth, you can find his column in today's issue, or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. We wanna give quick thanks to our staff, including today's audio production, team, Samantha lane, purpose, and Jeff turbine. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science Monitor copyright twenty nineteen.
Friday, December 20, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Monitor daily podcast. It's Friday December twentieth. Thanks for joining us. I'm Linda Feldman and I'm Dwight winegarden at the end of impeachment week it's tempting to feel that. The Nation is hopelessly divided especially as we head into an election year. That could get ugly. But let's consider a counter narrative around the country dialogues aimed at understanding understanding the red. Blue divide are springing up monitor reporter Henry Gas wrote about one such effort in Wimberly Texas organized by a local chapter her. The better angels. Once I reached out to an old friend of the Monitor Tom Swirling the better. Angels Coordinator for Maryland to see how he's he's feeling post impeachment. Mr Snarling told me something surprising getting American Conservatives and Liberals Together for dialogue today hey is harder than it was to get Israelis and Palestinians to talk back in the day when he was in Mideast peace activist the US. This work is harder in part because we were one step removed from the Arab Israeli conflict on the outside looking in Mr Snarling says in the. US US today. In this polarized conflict. We are inside the fishbowl yet. Mister snarling is hopeful reds and blues are willing to sit down together and look within themselves at the stereotypes they hold about others and why others hold stereotypes about them at a recent better. Angels Dialogue in Rockville Maryland. He says you could feel the sigh of relief when the other sides shared a moment of self criticism and humility now to our five stories. Today we look at the ethics of Alien Life Chat about the values of star wars and finding meaning in Tuba Christmas in our first story. Many millennials are cutting down their own trees as part of a yearning for a more meaningful Christmas enjoying enjoying an outdoor experience with family rather than making the holiday. All about gift buying. It looks like a scene out of a vintage Christmas print yet. Not all is old fashioned on this ninety eight acre expanse in rural Ontario amid the Bonomi Elliott Tree. Farm millennials are putting a modern turn twist on the ancient ritual of cutting down conifers. Federico Marquez says environmental concerns brought him out to avoid the plastic he says so on hand people have been cutting down Christmas trees since trees. I became a part of Christmas but now something new is happening. MILLENNIALS selenium are helping to buoy tree farms across North America driven by new ethos there wielding axes and bow saws in the name of making sustainable choices supporting go local movements they are also willing to pay for experience. Over convenience. millennials have had a lot of bad rap right right but when you see what they are doing they don't care about brands says Derek Elliott. Whose family bought this land in the nineteen eighties when it was a potato eight? Oh Farm. They are driven by the experience of a real tree by bringing nature into the home by supporting sustainability. And not just putting up. A plastic tree assembled in China. Something about being in nature feels right to Mr Marquez. His wife Brigitte Rice agrees. He's but the overarching motivation for being out here in the chill winter. Air Goes back to that centuries-old quest for the real Christmas experience leading up to Christmas we try to do something different each week. She says that includes dedicating a weekend to cooking Portuguese holiday sweets otherwise otherwise it passes and that's it it's just gifts says miss rice and that's not really the meaning of Christmas. This story was reported by Sarah Miller. Yana in Healdsburg Antero. For the Monitor. As the discovery of life in other solar systems serfs from the possible to the probable scientists and policymakers are starting to ask questions of ethics. What responsibilities would come with such to discovery? Suddenly it was not if but when the possibility of discovering life elsewhere in the cosmos went from fringe theory to reason is an speculation when scientists first detected planets orbiting other stars. We've learned in the last twenty years says. Christopher brogue a researcher at the the University of Bern that our solar system is not alone every star that you see has planets roughly that shift has raised a host of societal political political environmental and ethical dilemmas. That not long ago seemed hazy and hypothetical problems at best but now those questions are coming coming to the fore as traveling to other solar systems and potentially interacting with alien life may soon be on the horizon. Many things things still have yet to be done before. Humans rocket off to worlds beyond our solar system. Scientists are still pinpointing where we might best look to find alien life but a joint Swiss and European Space Agency mission launched on Wednesday called the characterizing ising exoplanet satellite or cheops aims to make that quest more certain. The space telescope is honing its sensors answers to determine which EXO planets might be habitable or indeed inhabited. This story was reported by Christina. Deana Lindbergh in Geneva and Bern Switzerland for the Monitor. What to do you when you work with food all day but can't afford enough to eat an underground foodbank? California tries to help. Latino farmworkers feed their families synonymous with beaches and surfer dudes. Santa Cruz County in. California is also home to some of the country's most vulnerable the farm workers who bring in the harvest but who's regular income ends with the growing season. An unknown number are unauthorized immigrants. Who Live in sub-standard conditions and speak a variety of pre-columbian languages rather than English or Spanish once a month Domingo an unauthorized resident pulls out a pink notebook filled with names and numbers and impeccably neat handwriting and calls the other farm workers in her phone tree to let them? I'm no where the next underground food bank will be. She will choose from vegetables. Donated by local farms packing houses and household necessities like like laundry detergent and diapers the stealth food operation is organized by an Lopez in conjunction with the second harvest. Food Bank of Santa Cruz. Cruz county doctor an recalls Interviewing Labors for her PhD dissertation. There was a family with four little girls crying for food she. He says what I found was a population inordinately. Poor and suffering. This story was reported by Patricia. Les Brown in Watsonville Bill California for the Monitor. Perhaps the world's biggest movie Franchise Star Wars serves as is a Modern Day myth complete with implicit spiritual and political values for millions of fans globally. The rise of Skywalker the jam-packed conclusion to the nine film Skywalker Saga that kicked off forty. Two years ago is out today. We gathered three of the Monitor's biggest star Star Wars fans culture writer. Stephen Humphreys Politics Writer Jessica Mendoza and science writer Owen. Carol to discuss some of the values is that permeate the franchise note. This chat contains no spoilers and you can read the full chat in today's issue or at CS monitor dot dot com slash daily. There was a time long ago when we knew all about Christmas. We were small. We held it right in our hearts. SAS Tumor Brewster Rights. We have to work at it to find Christmas now. But it's worth looking for her for her. That means Tuba Christmas. It's December in Portland Oregon. It's dumping rain. There are more within two hundred two but players. They're scavenged from all over town. Miss Brewster and others watch as a gray haired man is installed on the days us to conduct he is revered by the musicians. Many of whom he has taught and they smile at him with love and embarrassment citizens of Portland stand in the downpour. Their shoes filling with water. Screaming inside Tuba Tuba Tuba. They smile and his direction until finally he totters around to face. The players slowly lifts his arms and releases the Tubas there are virtuosos but you Osos but it is not the Nimba list of instruments and a large Democratic Volunteer Force is best reined in at a safer speed still they are magnificent even while lumbering through joy to the world even if deck the halls is done as a dirge when the tube is breakout aac out in the most magnificent him of all a him with the majesty to match the tempo. There's a moment in it. The soaring come and behold him born the king of angels the measure where Your Voice and your heart both break at once. That's your childhood shining through the fracture. It's okay to to weep for it. This story was reported by Myrrh. Brewster for the Monitor Now commentary on helping the homeless from the Monitor's editorial board. As Christmas approaches. The life of Jesus reminds many of the plight of people facing homelessness whether Jesus's birth and travels as an adult would qualify for some modern day definition of a homeless person need need not be the point. His ministry embraced poor people including those without homes and he taught the dignity and worth of each individual. Aw One source of gratitude. This Christmas might be that homelessness in the US continues to diminish in two thousand nine near the end of the the great recession. About six hundred and thirty thousand people were homeless by one estimate by two thousand eighteen that number had shrunk to a little more within five hundred fifty thousand. Any number is still too high. Homelessness Defy simple explanations or causes drug and alcohol abuse are often factors as well as mental illness. Each city may find that it needs to customize its approach to homelessness to find what what works for it a plan based on the compassion. Jesus exemplified twinned with the firm conviction. That the problem is solvable can lead to success excess. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. Some special holiday content is coming your way during Christmas week. Get get those headphones out and get ready to spend a week. With Monitor Writers and editors today we have one last holiday. Treat for you for your weekend staff writer Sarah Miller. Yana spent a day in the lab of a scientist who spent forty years trying to create the perfect Christmas tree. Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective contributor writes that at Christmas and always each of us is the recipient of a wonderful gift the gift of healing which as Jesus taught God freely gives to all you can find the column in today's issue or at CS monitor senator dot com slash daily. We want to give a quick thanks to our staff including today's audio production team Noah Robertson Robertson and Jeff Burton. This podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty nineteen.
Creannotators #20: You Brought Me the Ocean Interview With Writer Alex Sanchez!
"Welcome the comic book heralds creators I'm Dave. Using honored editor chief of comic. Book Herald and I'll be interviewing some favorite creators in comics about specific runs graphic novels serious for their insights on inspirations behind the work today I'm excited to welcome Alex Sanchez renowned author and writer of you brought me the ocean, a DC graphic novel focused on the Origins of Jackson Hide, Aka, the teen who will become accolade one of the most well known openly gay characters in the DC universe. Alex thanks so much for taking the time to talk me today I wanted to ask you right off the bat how did this project come about? How did you get involved with see with doing this graphic novel? Well thank you dave. It's great to be here with you. Yes. So what happened was that DC reached out to me I was about three years ago. Now that they were. Rolling out this new series of graphic novels trying to reach an audience that doesn't traditionally read comic books. And they were primarily but not exclusively Trying to reach Y. A. and and middle middle grade novel readers. But as we know, you know there are a lot of adults now who also Why as so They have you know they're they're characters and they weren't to tackle real life teen issues with their some of their DC. Comic. Characters. And they had this one character uncle Ed. And As some of your e readers, listeners may know in previous versions of. He identified as gay but within you know the twenty to thirty pages of a comic book or in the TV young justice they they were only weren't really able to go that indepth into what his emotional journey was is is motionless story, and so they wanted to take take advantage of that in terms of you know two, hundred, two, hundred page graphic novel. And so they started asking around blow who might be a good away oriented author to to deal with the issues of sexuality and sexual orientation, and because my history with rainbow boys and other other teen novels dealing with with those those issues they thought they they. My name kept coming up and so they reached out to me and and I got the call and I actually was an email and I was like women's this joke DC comics is. Is reaching out to me and but no, we had up in Colorado and they asked me to make a pitch and so they said, you know don't worry too much about researching the character. We really want you to make this character euro and and so I did a little bit of research and and drive some of the elements for previous versions but other than that I really focused on. Well, you know if I wanted to tell the story, what's the story that I would wanna tell and so that's how it came about. That's interesting. Very cool. So what's your history then with with the the medium with DC comics I guess in particular in terms of you said, you researched character a little bit was comic something that you had on your radar or was it more just? Hey, this is interesting. I have an opportunity to tell to tell a story here. Yeah. It was really more the the ladder as as a boy I. Read a lot of comics primarily, the Harvey Comics Car Casper the friendly goes. A Wendy, the good little witch, those kinds of comics but. Also. Growing up my favorite one of my favorite TV series with the old. Adam. West Batman. which was you know very campy campy fun. Take on superheroes and I think you know when when it came to writing, you brought me the ocean part of what I wanted to do was was. Gets that that fun element in there. you know that that ESOL Superhero story but that it could also be a lot of fun and so even though it was, you know d. you know when it's trying to deal with real life teen issues at the same time have lots of fun fun elements there. For sure for sure. Yeah. No that comes through I mean it's not. There's heavy issues in terms of dealing with you know coming out for right in just sort of find. Is As a person one of the one of the layers I really like in this book. So you brought me the ocean is you know it's essentially an origin story of sorts for Aquila because simultaneously figuring out you know essentially like he's coming out as as gay in high school, which is obviously a kind of a prospect right for a lot of people and he goes to a scribe open bullying and you know it's clear that this is a difficult thing for him to do as as you would expect. But then he's also at the same time learning about his powers, right? So you've kind of got run. That we like in comics we see this a lot. Where you know someone is just figuring out out these powers would he do with it in a Lotta Times? It's almost a metaphor recant be a metaphor for You know like learning more about yourself or your sexual orientation gender whatever it might be. But in this case he really both you know, how did you? How did you balance? kind of the like the thrill of of discovering who he is with also that like just the fear in kind of the worry that goes into these these kind of two big secrets that emerged at the same time. Well that was that was that was a lot of fun of writing this story. You know when I when I first started thinking about well, what is the story that I wouldn't talent I thought back you know as as a writer, I'm constantly drawing back to my own experience in my own struggles around my sexuality when when I was growing up and how validating valuable it would have been to have a queer superhero when. I was growing up that time there there any openly queer as super heroes, and so I started thinking about, yeah. I would want to tell that story and it's sort of organically the to the to those two parallel storylines started coming together. I think part of what happens is is you know growing up a queer oftentimes, we identify superheroes because like them you know we. So. Often have this secret identity. You know no one. No I'm having these these attractions but no one no one else knows about this and so I've got the secret and even even nowadays for for young people, they can be living this sort of double life where where they may be out at school but not at home or out at home but not a church. And so that that whole double life secret identity, and then the whole idea of having to face villain that as as queer people. Especially when we're younger, we face his very real a super villain which is homophobia and Transphobia, and having having to face that on a daily basis. Now, what's what's what's so exciting is that you know from when when I was growing up to now, there has been this tremendous cultural shift where there's A you know so much more acceptance and. Visibility of of lgbt people and at the same time you know bullying and Homophobia Transphobia is still exist, and so part of my aim was to be able to capture all of that in this story and you know as I start writing the story than those two tracks of of Jacobite, discovering his superpowers and it's the same time coming to terms with his, you know a sexual attraction to this romantic attraction to this other boy Kenny they just sorta like like just these parallels tracks of okay. Let's focus on this one now. Now, let's switch over this. Now let's charge that one and it was just a Lotta Fun to-, to we those together. Nice Nice yeah, it's it's an effective balanced throughout the book I found where like gear there's tension. Yeah. Knows it was a good read. There's tension kind of at every turn despite that though it is like it is ultimately pretty positive and upbeat I think kind of like you mentioned that lighthearted. It's not necessarily the the not in a wink camp of Batman Sixty six like you mentioned. Definitely a spirit of you know it's not dark by any measure. Your. With artist illustrator, Julia Munro, and in their incredible and accomplished illustrator storyteller in their own right with blue is the warmest colour I think being their most well known work. How'd you program collaborating with with an artist on this story? Especially someone like, Julie who who has done such amazing work because that's your your most well-known. Definitely for you know the the writing process which I imagine is is quite insular and internal. Maybe. We'll tell me otherwise. You know here you have. Obviously you have a partner in crime how how did that go free? Well, it was a wonderful experience. You know usually usually when I ride a, you know a Standard Text Pros manuscript. It's like it's me you know a by myself for you know two three hour many years working on this and then turning in the complete manuscript to to an editor and then getting feedback and. And this was a very different process and in terms of being so collaborative with with Julie and at the same time with Wonderful Editor at DC Sarah Miller, and so I never had that that ongoing collaborative process and the development of a project with. With anyone before and at first, it was a little scary because I hadn't done that. So nervous there but it turned out it was just so. To be able to have that collaboration that exchange exchange of ideas, and so what happened with with Jillian particular is that usually when when I'm creating a character, I have a vague idea of what they look like. They may have certain physical characteristics that you know will will impact impact the story in terms of their character. But unless I'm working off a photograph, it's sort of vague idea. and. So Oh for Julie I. You know I gave them a you know this sort of sketch sketch outline of you know how I imagine the character. And then to see what they came up with and one of the exciting things in the final book is but seeing some Julie sketches at the back of the book and how they developed the characters. It was sort of this process. Oh, well, that's not exactly what I thought. They would look like but yeah yeah. I can see that that's really great and then as more and more sketches started coming over drawings stations as started coming though is like I started falling in love with with Julie's our work just just how expressive and how much empathy they're able to capture and how dynamic and and the motion and the characters and they emotion it. was just just phenomenal. So it was really. You know these characters that that you know I came up with but then but they were able to develop them. It was just set such an exciting process. And then the other part is you know I'm sure you and. Your listeners are aware that you know comic books are graphic knowledge, the written in terms of a script. And as so to see what Julie would do with the the panels in terms of you know the basic sort of well, this is what happens in this panel and then to see how they would actually bring that to life. And then the panels in which you know. My decided we don't really need dialogue here. We don't really need a caption here. Jewish our work was just so amazing. Amazing. Just just captured captured the moment. Nice Nice Yeah. No, it sounds like a very positive process. It's a it's a gorgeous book to look at I. Mean I think it's fantastic graphic novel. So yeah, it's interesting to hear that that came so so smoothly because I know. You know I think as readers a lot of times we can take the collaboration aspect for granted. You know because it's we get the final product and everything is put together tightly. But it's no guarantee. Certainly. But that's actually how that plays out. So good to hear. We. Get glimpses throughout this book of Superman Black, Manta reference soccer man, and then he shows up by the end. How did you determine? How much kind of DC universe big superhero stuff to inject what in what is at the end of the day? Very much a a young adult you know high? School. Kind of romance book. While a lot of that was was thanks to Sarah my editor that You know as I said, you know they had asked me to really focus on the emotional core of the structure and of the story and and motion interaction between the characters and at the same time to make it clear that this was the story was was happening and was set in the DC universe. So whenever I get sort of that's sort of guidance from an editor then that gives me sort of this creative puzzle to figure out. Okay. So how am I GONNA do this? And so that that's how it came about of. Okay. How could I have these sort of our cameo appearances by these other DC characters and yet still? Places set this in in much. You know more mundane everyday universe of these particular. Characters set in this particular town. So it was a lot of you know figuring out that puzzle and There were times when the said that's getting to Superhero Way. Let's not let's not do that. Let's. Let's keep it more more realistic. and. That's part of the value of an editor is getting that sort of objective. Of Feedback. And they were you know really wonderful with that and so yeah, it does create the you know some readers have told me of a while it seems like it's actually really happened because it is so realistic and turned with they live from. Yet there are these you know a super super hero appearances. Yeah Yeah. No that's that's interesting that that the editor was even like scaleback the superheroes tough. Expectation. Would be that Oh. You got. You GotTa hit those beats. That's what everybody's here for. When I really the story that that's being told for sure. that. That's cool. So in this book to there's one thing that really struck me is the relationship between Jake and Maria is I found Kinda opening in initiative perspective where you know Maria essentially thinks that they're dating you know or at least she definitely wants them to be dating, and then of course, over the course story, we learned that you know Jake is in fact a and he's kind of learning about himself and how he wants to come out and all that but it's it's interesting to me just their relationship as friends and an actually like when he reveals his water abilities to her, you know she's like she's very relieved because you. Something else. For example, you know the fact that he's gay which also hiding there's there's this incredible range of like intersection. To all of these characters in this book I was curious is that's something that you really make a concentrated effort to to weave into your stories and if so how do you? How do you go about that? It is what happened was that you know with my first book Rainbow Boys Focuses on a love triangle between three high school senior boys Same Age same school, same community. So part of the challenge with that but goes well, how can I distinguish three boys who are so similar in? So many aspects and one way was to drop on my own Mexican. Heritage and a Mexican Cuban heritage and to make one of the boys Latino so Jason. CREO, he happens to be a cuban-american, but it's not about that. That's just part of who he is. But the tremendous feedback that I got from Latino, young leaders of how validating was for them to see someone likes likes themselves in in print. and. So that impact on me and ever since then I thought. Okay. So how can I bring in more diverse characters in into my writing and what I found with the DC was that they were just so embracing that of Vike Yeah Yeah Yeah, yeah let's. Let's definitely do this for for this book. And so I think it's also so reflective. Of. What's happening in in our society and our nation has as it's changing and continuing to change and with young people now, who are so much more aware of their identities and they search intersection of their identities. So part of it was a conscious effort of. Of including that, you know just in terms of well who the characters are as as individual characters but then also as reflections of of our country today and certainly of young people today and how they're exploring. Their identities in terms of whether it's race ethnicity gender sexuality, what it is, and how much more aware they are of of their identities and sexualities in their identities so Hoping that that you know the book is a reflection of that. Awesome, awesome. Very cool. Yeah. No it definitely stood out to me something I took away and thought like s is this is clearly positive in terms of how many how many different perspectives were able to get through that This is kind of a goofy question moving in a different direction but within the first twenty pages I had to ask how many water puns did you store? You have. It was more a question of. I didn't realize how many we use them. You know they they. Speaking. And I guess they just came more at the top of mind in the process of writing this story about these characters like happened to pop out and it's like, okay, well, I hope. To. Striking. But again, just just having fun with it. Goal goal. So this is the the aqua origin story essentially kind of by the end of the book and some spoiler here if you haven't read it Aric men going and doing so. By the end of this, we do learn Jake's origin, which is that Black Manta is his dad and there's kind of the the implication that they need to leave town. Right? That's that's the drama of the Final Act is, is mom pushing to leave town less find them, but we don't actually get to that point. So I'm wondering like are there plans for a sequel or more in this world or just for you writing a potentially graphic novels general So, in terms of the first one that's up to to DC. So we talked a little bit about it Hopefully, you know hopefully, there will be a a sequel maybe even the series who knows. but don't have a contract yet. So we'll see what happens with that. I would I would love to explore these characters more. But we'll see how that goes in terms of graphic novels in general I would love to I'm I'm working on a couple of other projects. Now that aren't aren't graphic novels but I was so inspired by by Julia Artwork that it's taken me back to you know how much I love drawing when? When I was a young person and I think even my pros writing has always been a very visual so. Got Back to drawing. Now one of my projects is is a memoir and I thought it could be graphic of memoir until I realized how hard and how long it takes me to do one drawing I'm in awe they. Julia was able to to crank out you know five pages of a four six panels you know average per page every week. and. It's like I don't know how they did it. You know it takes me a week just to do one one drawing. So it'll I think it will end up being an illustrated memoir, but still I'm loving the process and just learn so much from a working with Julian terms and. You know how to capture. You know the old adage of pictures worth a thousand words and and what can a picture capture some much better than than than pros. And also just you know having. As part of my learning causes just reading so many graphic novels and just having become. So excited with. With how many are being created and produced now and and all sorts of different topics and? Just just loving it. Cool. Cool. No, it's awesome With the With the increase like in in graphic. Novels. Excuse me I lost my lost my train of thought for second. Yeah. No, that's cool. I. Think there's you know more to you brought me the ocean or wherever might be that would be phenomenal. You probably get this a lot I would imagine with your work you know touching on on you know essentially like like queer individuals especially young individuals seeing themselves imprint. You know for the first time maybe or or seeing themselves now in in the DC comics universe potentially for the. First Time. But can you talk a little bit about like what is the reception to this book been like? What are the? What are the kinds of things you hear from people? I imagine for some readers I would I would hope they have the opportunity to to check this out and maybe have like I don't know pretty important realizations or or reflections on like actually being represented maybe for the first time. Yeah I. You know the reception has been awesome. It's really been amazing. So so gratifying several warding and the one that really sticks out for me is know one young person that's that's struggling with her identity and and their comment was you know Someone someone who actually here's me? That you know the the sense that you know the book is echoing echoing what they're what they're going through. So yeah. That that process of allegation. And you know this I think that the overarching theme of the story is the turns out to be you know I keep trying to write a different sort and my agent the all the are about the same thing about being true to who you're. And I look back in the like me up Yup can't get away from it even now I'm working on that doesn't have anything to do with let's sexuality or sexual. Orientation. Gender identity and still about you know Roy. Being true to true to who he is. And so in terms of this particular story, I think you know when you mentioned about those parallels tracks between coming out of day and coming out as a superhero. I think the the message that that I hope is conveyed is that you know when we can fully be truly truly fully be who we are that. That's our superpower that there's never ever in the history universe ever been anyone else exactly like. Like us and there never will be again we get this brief window in time to truly be ourselves that you know that's our superpower, and hopefully that's what Jake Jake realizes and and what what readers will will take take for their own mind. Perfect perfect of before. I, let you go and thanks. So taking the time is there anything? Were coming up or anything else that you would be interested in plugging. Sure I'll have a middle grade coming out and in February. And it's not a graphic novel or Comic Book It's a Standard Text Crows, but there is a comic element. So it's called the greatest superpower and be out in February. Good. Deal could arts. We got the greatest superpower coming argument a readers here checkout you brought me the ocean. This is Alex. Sanchez. Thanks so much for taking the time to talk me today I really appreciate it. Thank you Dave I've enjoyed it.
Episode 22 - East End Crop-duster
"This is this is a heavy boy. I know they're very heavy. Yeah that's a thick boy. Got Some going. On their hefty microphones for sure. Welcome restaurant hails. I'm your host Zack. Ferguson joined my two co-hosts to my left is Emily Whitman. And Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself correct on my right is Brady has and I think we all just witnessed him having political stance for the very first time proud. We could all be here for this moment person. What's that it's very neutral person so I also do want to point out that on the first day recording. What the new equipment. We made Brady us. The little kid microphones actually trust him. No no a lot microphone. I think is going to do a lot better. I mean this really is a matter. Skew him off another it's actually not fancier okay but neither is put in a corner and we're joined by Sarah Miller. Did you want me to say? I thought you were GonNa Present and then Clark as well as operators of Mercury here in Omaha and yeah I mean mercury and then also to quite a few other places here town here for about six years. We worked at a lot of the same places in some of the same places like eight years the I guess it has been so immediately prior to mercury. We were both on night outside. The opening grew over there and then prior to that I ran the boiler room bar for about three years. Sarah it was a lot to actually. I did lot to in the opening of night owl simultaneously after I left boiler room where I ran the wine list right right right. Yeah and then how long mercury been opened for three and a half that I know right. Yeah the three year anniversary and you guys know that's that's the Home Depot after after thirty. That's that was the quickest three years and a lot of work will make the time go by quickly before Omaha. Baltimore Baltimore yes. Baltimore is actually were Sarah and I met. Okay and Sarah. Where are you from originally? I'm from Omaha. You are one hundred thirty second and center land. Oh my God. We're GONNA Skate Lynn. Jeff Okay so then. How did you end up in? Baltimore? I kind of moved around a lot. I I went straight to Minneapolis. After high school I went to the Minneapolis College of art and design and Then I moved to the East Coast to Baltimore because my best friend and I thought it would be close to the ocean. Ever been to Baltimore for your masters refreshed with twenty two when we did this so yeah. That was pretty hilarious. We got openly laughed at inquired about it so yeah. It was kind of pathetic. When did you guys realize how long it take you to realize that? That was not the case. Probably within the first couple of weeks moving there. Yeah I'm actually the move to. Baltimore was rife with humiliation. She met me and then Clark. You're from yeah I moved. I was born in North Carolina. Moved to Baltimore when I was probably I. I remember North Lived in and around Baltimore pretty much for for most of my life until I moved here. So how'd you'll meet? We were working at the same restaurant bar. Restaurant finding down near the harbour Italian join Super Bowl. It's coaching golly. Golly yeah it's it's still there. It is actually doing very well is actually. It's part of the form and Wolf Group which they have Five different they have five or six restaurants at this point in Baltimore. Cindy was their primary show executive chef and she gets nominated for beard. Pretty much every year informing gets nominated restaurant tour almost every year. Nice now so yeah good pedigree some what made you guys come back to Omaha. My family is from here. My brothers growing up. I kind of felt bad. I was a little homesick. I loved Baltimore Though But I it took me meeting Clark to really get to the cool neighborhoods and figure out where I was supposed to go. You know and after that I just the people there are so kind is so easy to make friends there and just a really open and fun group of people that I met there really just the first time I met someone who's like we're friends now. Oh okay I loved it when you're in trench warfare. It's hard not. I mean that's Basic Baltimore but at the time I my car insurance was like four hundred dollars a month. Oh God I am i. Rent was astronaut comically high and trump property slapping the table. Oh my gosh not a cheap place. No no no I mean it keeps pace at the time and kept pace with Seattle. Seattle is kind of ood taken off. So suckling like vaporizes. It's as expensive as living in PHILLY OR JERSEY. A Baltimore is the Jersey of DC. Let's not do that if you WANNA live in. Dc You live in Baltimore because the minute drive. Marginally more affordable right and living in the real thing. Yes I have two questions first one is. You're from Baltimore is it. Someone once told me that the t's not a thing and it's almost a d. So it's Baltimore is that right it's Balmer bomber. If you're if you're old bowl. I if you're old Baltimore there's Baltimore Yeah back home again. So there's there's Balmer if you've been around for a while Baltimore and in Baltimore if you're if you're actually by the end of this bottles lined very bold. Baltimore has occurred kind of really interesting accent to it. They have this kind of like. It's they implements from like the southern kind of like slang vinegar-soaked Wang through going on but then also has a really poignant element of white trash and so you're get drawn out and did like so next thing you know. It's like Oh yeah we're GONNA to go down to the ocean you know. That sounds so much fun. Amazing and yet kind of made up like you took stereotypes of a bunch of other accents from around the country and it was just like pick a few of them out of the hat. Just as Thomas Sounding wants really bad like Improv class like tacking things very proud of it and then what? starts in restaurants bars first experiences with that whole thing. How would that start for you guys? I started working in a restaurant because I was trying to pay for college. Just like a lot of Minneapolis. Then yes I started at a place called Alvin tow. It was my first job. I was offered the job. They were looking for an assistant manager. I said I didn't have any experience but I would do whatever they wanted. And I was a quick learner so technically I was hired as an assistant manager for my first restaurant. Job Down through Right on my goodness it was. It was amazing. It was an Italian restaurant but it was house made Pasta. I mean it was actually freaking delicious food. Yes and that was my first kind of meeting of of actual good food family owned restaurant so it's really cool in that sense. I had never had food like that before. We have these great belief wrapped pecker. Reno slices with truffle oil. Which is why I experience oil like anybody that is g it was. It was amazing food and I wonder what I would think now if I went back but a lot of fond memories there and absolutely psychotic chef you know just like first restaurant stuff. Yeah so I ended up being So I was hosting. There was also busing but I was also running their their system. Would like put everything in print off updates to the men's I print off menus and I was also responsible for like changing shifts around for people watering the flowers. So go shitty chasing the patio. Yeah just many strange things. I was literally I was eighteen yet. A resident patio duck. We had A. We had a patio and there was a duck on it so it was like you come out on the patio and the door would swing open and look for the Doug. Yes there's a duck. Don't fuck with it okay. Leave it alone. Sorry okay yeah so this one duck. The lakes are everywhere in Minneapolis. Where Alvin was a lake across the street. So this duck would come make a nest on the patio and then walk her chicks over to the lake every year. So Yeah we had duck beautiful tomorrow. Specials comfy ever happened Oh is that is that the spot that you kinda like fell in love with the industry. You're Kinda got hooked. I I mean I think it was like That's where I saw a homemade pasta for the first time and started saw the started to learn the vocabulary into detail and everything like that that the the fine dining vocabulary starts. Yeah so that's where I kind of started to learn everything insurance cork I I I industry Gig so it was fourteen and I took a job I was in high school fourteen checks out and I had I had signed up for some cooking classes there and I really liked. I wanted to cook and at that point I decided like I'm GonNa be a cool point. You know I was fourteen so I was doing that and so then like I had like sort of invested in Walmart grade like pans and pots. I should preface. My mom really didn't Cook so like me. Cooking was basically becoming an astronaut. It'd just like I had no experience and no business doing it. So I was thinking glasses. I really enjoyed it. I really there's a fourteen year old Buying all your own shit too. That's I don't know I've been working since I was twelve so not to brag swept a little hair so I had done like minor. Yeah I like my my eight eighty dollars so I took this job at a dinner theater. Which basically meant we made this big buffet. Everybody came in eight the buffet and left it wasn't it wasn't super high tech or anything like that but I enjoyed working kitchen. You know I learned a lot of like initial stuff like that like you get to hang out with like nineteen year old burnouts and smoke cigarettes. You get to learn how to sharpen a knife on a sidewalk like a bunch of really weird leg up dirty kitchen. Dog like life tax Pinchers doesn't want you to that. Was that was my introduction to a commercial kitchen it was. I don't know it was worked for. I never been. It wasn't a big theater buffalo. So Shit you're just back. They're trying to cigarettes gas burner. Yeah exactly right the remnants of the Cherry Cobbler after after the buffet gig for fourteen year old so I did that for about a year and then I worked my way up to expo. Red Robin Why you would let a fifteen year old touch and dictate every single ticket. And you're like three hundred seat. Restaurant is beyond me but you know I had an act for it and that was cool for a fifteen year old because you get to like talk all the Chicago kitchen staff and then you get to like talk to all the nineteen year old waitresses still smoke cigarettes and with. That was a good time but I enjoyed that and so that was kind of my kitchen them from there. I went on to cook. I start flipping burgers at an Irish pub and then worked kitchen manager pretty quickly after that and then that was kind of where. I did my own the front of House because it turns out if you show up sober to work in a kitchen every day then you can get pretty far that way. The ladder is pretty sure. I was nineteen and managing people ten years my senior. I know I know it's kind of assessing. I don't want to go too far into that. Because of the bummer but ruled long story short. I worked my way up so I was just basically running orders writing schedules. And like you know pulling you know. Oh general kitchen manager bullshit. And so then Saint Patrick's Day happen in the Irish pub. And so I was managing the kitchen as well as that could go which just meant we went through like four thousand pounds of corned beef and so long story short. They were like. Hey we're kinda short on bartenders at the moment because we're talking to a restaurant that probably had about three hundred fifty seats give or take. Every square inch of the floor was covered with people and so the bar was at that point infinity deep. I mean really. Truly people were waiting forty minutes to get a beer so they just want to walk with because on top of all that we had the entire parking lot cordoned off for like the term beer garden wasn't super in Vogue back but it was a parking lot where you could drink select tailgate. Yeah just just the seven eleven. We could use them. Heliborne Beers I went up there and so you know you talk about kitchen and I was making the wapping of ten dollars an hour as the kitchen manager back in the day but I said I haven't done that. I went out there and I poured beers I handed to all. That'll be boot eight bucks or whatever and you're like cool. Here's a ten key the change. I'm like so I just handed to do two beers at made two dollars as like weird and then I went and handed another beer and he gave me a dollar and I was like I did the math and I was like wait a minute. I can probably get out. I could probably put out on the bar in ninety dollars. It turns out that works but that was my first day behind the bar. That was like all right. I cool yeah so anyway smash cut a few years later. I was GONNA place on on Thirty Sixth Street in Baltimore which is kind of like the the main hipster neighborhood and I I was working the bar there and I really liked it and I was super lucky to find out what I liked so early in life. I love cooking and then I got into bartending and I just love bartending. I work my way to you. Know doing the doing the Irish pub thing. I had some barten- experience partly that into basically getting a job at the restaurant. Where like a bunch of my friends worked in place to hang out with my throat so often trying to play through professionalism me Irish back. Oh Oh so dumb. Monopolizing time you're sorry So you know so anyway. We're a golden west. Was the place I worked out very extreme and I really enjoyed that and then at that point it really was. Kinda took all the things that I love. I love work of my hands ought be happy. I love creating things for people to consume but also like flex like personality muscle that I have able talk to. People knew all that and it just really. I was super super fortune to kind of find basically what the intersection -ality of what might usefulness is versus what society needs and. I just really enjoyed it and so I remember there was kind of a cultural are not a cultural touchstone. Personal touchstone for me The place I worked at. We had like a two dollar Margaritas on Tuesday from four to six or something. I don't know whatever which basically meant it was one bartender versus so many people in the city of Baltimore trying to Margaritas. And so like five fifty five come around and I was like I just basically got up on a milk crate. I'm like who wants to fuck in two dollar Braga Rita Chauhan's everybody now Chauhan's came up. I took account made them out and just so happened. That my my Dad. My Dad had actually shown up he never showed up before he just happened to like papa by and he liked watching all this go down and then finally my ship ended or whatever and he just been sitting there drinking just kind of hanging out like his dad owned a Bar. His mom worked in a bar and stuff like that and sat down with him afterwards. And we're just having a beer with man you really like can control a bar and I was like you know it's what you do. You tell people what you need them to do and they do. I mean they're drunk and he's like no no you really got to. You got an act for that. That's cool cool. All right sounds good so that had just kind of like that was like that wasn't the thing for me but like that definitely kind of had confirmed my suspicions. This is okay. Confirm my suspicions. I had something that I'm going to. Yeah and so from there I just kind of like really delved into it. And then you know there's the adage beer wine liquor Wanna get really really good at it and I like liquor ends no modern so I feel like I keep asking all the questions but also I always think this is interesting. How did you convince Clark I feel like a lot of time? We all know that this places pretty fucking sweet for the most part but Zack's made the move came from smaller town so it wasn't a big thing for me. I was like Oma a big city and bright lights. You're from Blair Cook. I'm sorry. Good the five percent of service industry. People are from Blair. That's true there are a lot of people But Yeah how did you convince? How are you convinced to make the move to the Mid West? Because I said before we will get here. I feel a lot of time to think. Oh my God. There's just fucking cattle out houses and Shit like that like actually Internet. They're yeah actually especially in Baltimore. Baltimore some people. There thought that we still wrote around in covered wagons because at the time the state quarters had just come out and arch-foe Iraq and I was like really covered wagons Nebraska. That's the coolest thing you can put on the quarter. That program did as zero fucking favors religious perpetuated shoes Warren Buffett's face yes. I thought Colonel Sanders. Everyone here is a millionaire. Yeah so actually actually actually. It's so so lame but Clarkin. I clicked immediately when we met guys both running bar two. I'm sorry not no no. I was serving on the floor and he was bartending. And first time I met. I was like this guy's awesome. Who Sizes remedial actually? He had a mustache. He had that curly hipster mustache. Bit of a mullet but kept it toy and yeah this is so lame but the very first day that we met. I had a dream that he saved me from a fire that night. I don't think it's it's not one of the things. Sean was the one or anything. I'm doing air quotes. You can't see you we. We just got along immediately and I am really bad at picking up signs but apparently we were kind of seeing each other for a while and I didn't know how he made me a mix CD that's the first real head back was deal like me. I mean level I know and forward as a guy will ever get no and then I remember when I first realized very enthusiastic. You said it was neat. Well that's nice. Thanks no at that point. I was a kid. I was receiving very mixed messages because I I had brought that out I brought. I brought out the heavy guns. I got projectors even a motown deep cut I really. I put a lot of effort and she was like I love you. I'm not saying you didn't appreciate it. You Han Solo Me Solo to me. I'm just putting that on the record. So anyway yeah. It was one time we were out at his house. I think we're watching game of thrones. Then he put his arm around me and I was like. Oh that's what that's what this is about two months after that mix CD do you think is like yes I was like. Oh good I had a dream about using. We were watching. Game of thrones in my bed. Wait near the cover. I just I just wanted to stay here. I we were you anything yet though I really did I stuck with with it paid off. I remember the Karaoke Song. Convinced me worth every Kelly Clarkson tell I knew that. Yeah that was that was that was. That was my Go-to when I left Baltimore. My friends had a roast for me. And that's that was the song that played me onto the stage. I listened to it a why it was. My the conversation goes on. You guys decided to come back this way I kind of. I don't even remember exactly the thing but I did say I need to move back. It's too expensive here. He said I wanNA come with you. I said are you sure? I tried to describe Omaha accurately as I could because I haven't been there since high school which was two thousand six. So that was grey plume. Okay the room pre like everything I still thought of. Omaha is just nothing going on and I had just gained the peak of my culinary experience at that time which was eight years ago so I was a kid. I was still a child. I had no idea what was happening in Omaha. I just knew that my family was there so I was like. I'll go there for a little bit. I already traveled to a bunch of different places. I would move almost every year too so I wasn't afraid to try something and then pick up and go. I always kind of felt like there was one foot out the door and and I felt safe moving and I was experienced so if it didn't work out fine I'll just go somewhere else Clark. I think had some different perspective on it which I think was was really helpful but also at the time cemented. The whole thing was we were really. I mean I was really in love. I was like this is. This is the best relationship I've ever had and it was easy for me. Yeah when things are easy. What year did you guys come back? Two thousand eleven. Okay fuck yeah eight years ago. Yeah Wow so for me. It was really cool. That an amazing that you wanted to come but I was surprised because I I don't think maybe I did describe it as accurate was going to ask. What was that transition like for you? Well for both of you. I mean you moving back and then you moving from a huge metropolitan area to run this and so I don't want to. I want to put the Astros right in the Front Omaha is not teeny. Tiny town drew the metro about to hit a million we outpace many other cities with NFL teams. Which is engaged? The are you can do that down. The bengals just saying. Oh look anyway so. Go very excited about that last week. Yeah they were undefeated and bill. But then I digress Omaha is actually a really in. The city. Is Not rinky-dink. Sound rinky-dink on paper. But I think is kind of where like Nashville was five years ago. And we're almost ten years ago like stolen radar building heavy The Omaha like the cultural scene is like really cool. Yeah there's you know there's there's music there's arts there's all the bits and bobs but you know in Baltimore there's like fifteen of all those here. There's like two of all those I will say for me. The transition was interesting because I thought I thought I was moving to a town where I'd have to sling beers at applebee's. I thought it was going to be willing to do that. Well I was I was basically I was. Have you seen the audit? I was basically given a choice. Choose between the city that I live with a woman that I love. The city of battle will always be there but the alternative cannot be said so for me. The choice was easy. It was it was scary. I gave her a year. I told her I'll give you your maybe two and then I 'cause I again I didn't know what I was walking into and I thought I was pregnant at that point. I had been building for Games. Iming building cocktail programs. I've been doing that. Sorta like bullshit and I moved here and I basically going to be putting my career on hold and I didn't know what this is going to be a long term solution or a short term solution. But I was. I was up to see what was going to happen so I decided to put things on hold and come out here and I don't regret a moment. Everything worked out very well. Obviously but I mean she. Yeah what was I going to do? Let her walk away. I can do so when I came out here so I came out here and I was immediately shocked by the cool stuff because I had basically two months notice that I was moving Omaha so I mean my plans. I into my month to month lease because I was living in a dystopia nightmare. That is Baltimore. I started doing my research and realized I didn't know the geography of the city at all. Baltimore for me was like I can look back my hands sort of thing. Omaha. I'm like I don't know where the fuck even go like the city so big and that's what really took me off guard right out. That was my initial because Baltimore is going to use them. Words are some numbers are probably GONNA be easily disproven by mean Baltimore's like four miles wide by like five miles packed in. It's super dance at surrounded by beltway. I don't know and like those neighborhoods are all like four blocks y bockstaller like that's those are neighborhoods and those are like. You've got to be in the neighborhood and do things so so moved here. It's like I don't even know where to start looking for restaurant jobs and so I'm basically kind of like I bided my time until I got here I. We touched down near plane and I asked her all right so I work. And she's like no. I had no idea we asked my family. Yes correct. I had nothing to do with these choices but they are hilarious. No you have two choices. Were like okay so basically. It's like well I need. Our family told us the best restaurants in Omaha. Oh you're right we're upstream and Lucile amyot doing take a while we each where we worked. We eat worked at one of my first job. Here Luckily Lamia. My first job was waiting. Tables at obstructs half months. I had always done Italian restaurants talion. Everyone says it's the best Italian place in Omaha. Oh Boy oh boy. Oh I will do a micro Nebraska's microbrewery with their tasting room so upstream And so I was like I'm bartering to that and I and I took their fuck you not personality tests to see if I fit in which basically you remember this thing. It was like four pages long. That can't be thing. Oh it's one hundred percent really promise you well you know. I say that but this is before the Labor crisis years ago it was too high schools much you from upstream would be arrested was not exactly can do so. I pleased into server. But Yeah Yeah we were to me on I worked upstream and we found an apartment for five hundred dollars a month for reference my studio apartment that I was living in Baltimore before utilities before anything. Sixteen hundred dollars eight years. Oh eight and that was eight years ago and now. He's on the cool part of town cool thing but mustache. Master's twice Dash pommie toilet right. I was GONNA say but I mean so moving here. We found that might be that might be a show titled Toilet Seedbed Name? But yeah so yeah. We found this apartment for five hundred dollars. Like you've gotta be fucking kidding me like I knew show is brought to get punked. What does it. What's the rules like? Do I have to give up the CORNHOLE ones? I didn't Baltimore Real Estate's wildland but I mean like you're from Maryland. I'm going to let that slide by. Cornhole has wildly different conduct is. It's actually a very family. Friendly thing asshole. Clear Anal again. I digress so about twenty minutes ago Emily. Asking the transition was licensed. Was it smooth? He was actually. It was great because I expected zero expectations and the places that we went to right away we went to King. Fong actually one of the first places we ever set foot in which an mercury's directly. There's no coincidence foreshadowing. There's no coincidence. House Aviv's Shit but I think it was really cool and so yeah I got here. We were looking at jobs. We yeah we we were working upstream. And that was that was just. Don't go bummer. For a couple months but Pretty quickly I started. I was still serving a what you. But then I picked up hosting a grey plume because I win and I brought my CV. I showed him my report and stuff like that and they were like. That's really done the same with the boiler room. Neither of them were in need of bartenders. They were both extremely interested in keeping the around and so you know Boiler Room. Basically kept my resume on file. Or what have you but great blue. I can't give you a hosting job but like if you are. I can't be broken any job whose job. It's one day a week and I was like I'll get my foot in the fucking. Don't give a shit like I'll put A. I put on a sweater vest and comb my hair once a month dead. Hot Water's invest in the grape plume. Room is very warm. I agree but yeah I did that and it just so happened I was hosting my one. It was my eighth shift doing that. Nonsense and somebody came in and somebody new or whatever and they're like oh the bartender. The Blue Room quit and I was like I did not hear that and so I left my shift and I went to the boiler room with my freshly printed. Cv still on my glove box. That went and I was like. Hey you guys bartender the and so that's all I got a job. There was a couple months. You've been here in Omaha. Then I'd say about three months were yeah because I I started during it must have been about through afterward Jim. Yeah and then. When did you end up there? Actually Clark was the one who told me that there was opening so I just live right in there. It was like it was like three weeks later. Okay yes yeah two or three later like shit. We really need qualified PAT. I got the dude for you so I had plenty of experience of fine. Dining and service is really easy transition and a welcome change nepotism has its finest. Do that spark you're Y knowledge or had you already been working on that yeah or hand. They four boiler room actually. Yes so Ching. Golly was where I started because they had a wine list by the Minneapolis. Talk Okay. That's yeah that's where I started. I was always curious about lying. I felt like I had. Nobody ever actually tried to teach me honestly. I never got to taste anything. I never got to sit down and just drink a glass and think about it. I never did that. I was twenty one quick quick little break. Just one second here. I have to say this so I have. I have a deli of Cognac issues with the bottle so I just dumped it into into a Deli in court. Just grab it off the desk. And he's holding it so dangerous. Cognac out of a Deli shot glass in class. Here folks out yeah. He's just gave me the evil grin. Nice can I try that fucking delicious? We just brought that into the new. It's very that's very good anyway. Oh Anyway Yeah Yeah so yeah. I feel like as a Somali. A lot of people are always asking me. How did you get into this? How'd you get good? How what happened with you and at Chingoka told me read veto Italian? Which is if you've read. It is so high concept for someone who has never actually got it. It's with the introductory book. No Good Gosh. What terrible advice. That was how they look back. I read it. I'm like I'm very much enjoying this as a professional now that I know what I know but good Lord start with the Bible and also I just I tell everyone what you need to do honestly by a bottle wine read about it and drink the entire thing by yourself. That's really what you need to do up lights and Canto call your current cry up but in all honesty yes The boy the room clearly. They needed someone to take stuff over. The pushed formed to to do more in kind of advanced get into it versus. I wanted to sell some bottles and the if you've ever been to the boy the room there especially when I was there we probably had four glasses that were from the united four bottles out of seven hundred fifty bottles that were from the United States so I was constantly battling people that were mad that we did not have American wine. So what I did was. I was like okay. What is European that can be compared? I just started with. If you like this. You will also like this so I just started researching online. I got into pre-riot I got into Chateauneuf DAPA which is dubbed Shoddy Pop. I totally like for Pado the Sicilian wines. Actually all of these obviously are little bit stinkier and more intense than Cabernet but but Italian blends often have cabernet in them. And so I would. I would actually read these wines. One by one research them. Write down everything that had anything to do with high alcohol full body and all that kind of stuff. I started doing the research myself. And that's how I got good at. It was just taking notes. Vigilantly studying them going through the wine cellar. The boy room Looking at labels. And and just doing that but I did have a lot of help when I started tasting at femurs. That's when they took me through the guild of Somalia's tasting grid. That's when it really started to click because it slows you down. It makes you think and you're amongst friends I mean there's judgment but it silent judgment and and it's also constructive criticism to lake when you call something wrong like they'll say okay. Here's why you're right leading up to this but here's where you went off less when you should have gone right. You know that sort of thing back when I was tasting. I got certified. Wow I mean it was probably five years ago. Leased was probably six seven. It was a long time ago. It was back when it wasn't how do I say this without sounding? Douchebag either is on friend as mainstream word nerdy thing to do yeah nine hundred is bad but I I love learning new things. I love it and so that's what I want. I was like okay. I feel it's kind of pathetic but I wasn't in school so I was like this feels like a read about something that made me feel better. It really really did. And so yeah I started wanting to learn and after I started getting the tasting grade and really really understanding what was going on. I remember tasting Riesling. Somebody said it. Smells like Landon. Lynn Mandolin. What the what is that? Sheep's wool sheep's will own. Everyone's just picking up sheep NYC smelly man. That's insane but one day I was I was drinking riesling and I was like I got it like I. Suddenly I smelled I smelt it. And they don't like all the sudden I could identify Riesling at the drop of a hat. I started getting other tells. I would sit down and have a bottle of Chardonnay and all of a sudden it was like boom. I got it calling out so satisfying. I've always had a very good sense of smell. It's one of the few things I brag about have very very very good sense of smell to my detriment and sometimes say how does that fare. Al's lactose House she's screaming at Clark. He's upstairs. Just do I keep myself TACO. Wears heavy at some point in the house just thinking. Yeah I found like I am actually very very good at this. I mean good at identifying smells so I'm I that's how he became that's how I became impassioned with A. I'm actually very good at this. I can do this confidently yeah important. Let's go and take a break for a second. Come back a history going some mercury staff and some other stuff from their. Cool Cook. Quick break thank you. Thank you so much for listening to restaurant tails you know again. We were Do appreciate everybody listening. Also clearly are Netherlands. Numbers have jumped up again so I guess to all our listeners in the Netherlands What's up thanks and always remember if you haven't yet wherever you listen to your podcast rate and review us. Thanks we are back. We are back. Do shot shorts jeers science project. I want to talk about what just happened inside our shot glasses. It's so weird. So we just sipped let's Aronie Fair Fair Cina remnants of that and everybody's glass and then we poured in Eagle rare whisky and it turned black black so brown. If you'll indulge me absolutely thank you so Sarah and I were actually just down the bourbon trail about a year and a half ago. We happened to be there like a day. We did like three dollars in a day but something I learned there and it was something I never heard before. Never uttered on any of the blogs or the general scuttle but. Was that the reason that you hear. The you hear limestone referred to a lot when it comes to Bourbon And apparently the aquifer that's located under that northwestern Nebraska North Western Kentucky took. Thank you And South Western tip of Indiana. There's an aquifer there and it's all limestone lined limestone and the reason that a lot of the Bourbon comes from that area of the country. Like yes you can make Bourbon anywhere. But the reason that they use it. That area is because one of the very very few offers as the limestone and limestone is a natural in naturally draws out. The iron from the water irons president and a lot of groundwater but iron is the number one thing that makes whisky turn off. And so when you use non iron water and so. That's what I'm assuming has here. That's that's my segue. Clumsy segue is the the Pharaoh in this pharaoh keen over. I iron so I'm assuming that iron hopped into the whiskey and then made a turnoff. That's what I that's. That's my two cents so that was a fascinating little tidbit. I drop that shit on the bar like four times a week. Where people are like you can do you come from. You're like well. Here's why but that that limestone was really fascinated. Me Is something I've never heard any interested. Minimalistic you yeah. I'm putting that in my backpack. Great bullet in your holster. Right to be able to talk about her can only come from Kentucky and it's like well here's what this is. Why you're wrong. Everyone here is now dumber. Heard it all right before we get too much further? Actually the last two episodes to think a Patriot patriotic. This week is Lance W I don't know anything about Lance at all. Actually let's speculate wildly. I believe the W stands for wispy. Our sounds cool. I went gee I mean also like I don't want to say his last name on On the air. But it's a I'll tell you afterwards it's a pretty dope west name so like Lance let it does one thing I know about you. Is You got a really cool? Yeah all right yeah. I'm good with that like a laugh track. Whatever that's Oh man. But yes lance thank you so much we appreciate your support. Tears Lance. Yeah all right so jumping back in. Yeah kind of coming back to your story and everything. Let's talk about Mercury. How did that start? Where did that idea come from you? Guys he inception mercury. Because you guys you guys were at nine point We had been shopping for We've been shopping for our shopping okay. Shopping for mercury. I suppose it'd be clear what we've been shopping for mercury since both of them We moved here and then within a couple of years or we learn that APP. We learned that the market is great. Yeah this is a phenomenal town with a lot of people who are really excited about so. It's certainly not me We we had learned within a very short amount of time. That like mercury is our Omaha. Sorry is a great town that embraces a lot of really cool things and we knew our. I guess I shouldn't be for both of us. I knew for a long time that I wanted to open my own shop and I knew kind of like in very very broad strokes by one that shot to look like and so we knew that. We're probably going to like. We're probably try and open something up here. We met up with our investor in Omaha. As a matter of fact he's no Mojo native. We met up with him and we talked through what this would look like and so we spent about a year and a half looking well which you're looking for real estate like where. Where do we plunkett down? Blacks ends up and coming. That's all well and good at that point. Blackstone was nothing. They're not like not prior tonight. Practice Ullivan's even moving across. Yeah Yeah and so that was we were shopping. Neighborhoods long story short. We were still shopping for places with the investor when out opened and so at that point we knew that we were heading towards the direction of ownership and then Noah who owns night out. Noah had met US. I mean honestly like knowing. Katie moved here within about three months. Air Moving here and then within less than a year like probably closer to four months we had just kind of intersected ran into each other talk to each other and became very fast friends. And so like Noah and myself and Sarah Gedeon and we were all just like goofing around like Dick off and then all of a sudden and while we were shopping for places no would come to us and be like. Hey here's like here's an offer that this guy has brought. Does any of this? Look Weird you guys because you've been doing the same thing I don't know that's a sounds of cells different gopher whatever but then he was like we got a great deal and then all of a sudden he was like. Hey we've locked it down. We've got our lease. We've got the bill outset. We've got the target date. We're going open shop. I know you guys are doing the same thing I know. You guys are shopping for your own thing and I know you've got more or less direction that you're heading do you want? Do you want to come be on the opening staff and you have a job as long as you want until until you make your move exactly right exactly right and so I I can say this I would not have left boiler room. I personally wouldn't have let boys room in Los come along and I would never have left night out until we had our own thing going by. I was completely completely and utterly satisfied. Both those jobs one more than the other. But that's no. I loved working for both those places I gained so much. Morgenpost isn't very very different ways. And yes so we had been shopping at the same time and then we found this space. That was next door to king. Fong's which as I kind of alluded to that was one of the very very first places. Sarah I ever foot in and I loved the neighborhood. When you're sitting on sixteenth and Harney. You are surrounded by high rises and all sides. You have a theater. You have a Bodega Power district. And you have Kim. Jong those your four corners that has never felt more urban to me is. I've never felt that urban in say and is the closest to home some of that involves kind of the Journal. Vagrancy wander up and down the street but I think part and parcel of like the big city experience in my opinion that was. That's normal in Baltimore. It's a little different for Omaha. It's like you're just not used to it. No no I. I completely agree. It's not bad it just is it is it is and so that felt very home to me and I walked in and the history of this shop that we went into his phenomenal so it opened up and thirty eight as Edwards Jewelers and Edward Brady. No I do you guys know Carlton and Lisa Love Talking about that and I was like because they they left. They had a few drinks a few cocktails corporate drop portrait of them. I know they're so kind. Can you tell them? I say I haven't seen them in a few cocktails and I was like. What are you guys? Probably Mercury and I was like Oh Sweet. I was like you know great staff. Everyone's knowledgeable. It's cozy shitting there But it was just kind of interesting because we started talking and I was like I fucking care member the reason that there's a volt in there and I was like it was either a jeweler or it was bank but then I was like. I'm pretty sure it's a jeweler. Because there was a the bank is where our culprits first locations. That's that's where that was so anyway. Yeah yeah that was the first first national and you guys have the vulne basement down there. Yes it's now. The green rooms walking. Yeah so yeah. So it's a it's a super bowl area but anyway no. I mean that that's a well that's a good point so you're talking about that area that stretches sixteen th From basically a little bit north of where the doubletree now all the way down to jail is now that was all lined with cool fucking shit. They called it the sporting district for a long time because he was the very clever way of getting around saying gambling. Act Bunch of I'm sure there was a lot of kids. Yeah yeah there was a ton of that going on there but Sporting was a common common kind of deflection for gambling for a long time. And so all of those. There's a ton of bars there in the forties give or take And they would take sports bets and so forth but then like the the fifties and sixties turned into a shopping district became into pedestrian mall The infrastructure is already there and so then thirty eight is when Edwards Jewelers Open which is when which what are shop is so Edwards rulers ran and then there is a bit of an Sarah has actually kept track of a better than I have but there was a bit of transition between Edwards and bore shines right so Edward is the name of the brother of the family from Brodky's actually think broad keys. There's like David Brodsky and Edward. They were brothers. They opened two businesses. One David Open which was Brodky's improbably getting the first name wrong. It was some white guy name I don't know and then Edward was Edwards. Which is where we were at which is inscribed in the title when you first walk in and there's an allusion to it in the comics are comic menu for Mercury Anyway So Yeah Edwards. Was his corner jewelry shop. They decided to combine the two and then they started to call. It is so they. They absorbed Edwards into Brodky's so rockies moved on the corner and then it became four Cheyenne's after a brief hiatus in the seventies and eighties. I believe and I think I'm Sarah Baker Hanson. That told me after it was a jewelry store. It turned into this like hipster warehouse. Hang out which There were art shows and and talk like. Oh Yeah you know Sara. Bigger few things out uh-huh so yeah. She told me that it was kind of like a place where young people would hang out in the ninety. Two Thousand and Yeah Yeah and and I've heard similar things and there's a lot of lake Disparate theories about what happened to the shop that I can find damn fucking because a lot of our guests are like I got my engagement ring here and that was the malts and Mike. Yeah our wine. Cellar is in a vault and that's world at precious jewels so it's always cool and also there's this little cage that closes the door and then there's a huge door the original vault door which is awesome but the cage. We actually did have a key to lock from the inside. So that's great. Yeah you can also have a conversation in there and nobody else can hear you scream and yell stabbing you got for you. Yeah Yeah Yeah no recording devices definitely not go to the computer but it's naturally like shut off from the sun and it's naturally cooler in there so beautiful so so have you. Guys shopped around other locations was was the location. Like did you see that one and like you're like Oh we're done. Do you know the velociraptor building with that is actually not been the boss router for about two now. They painted over that well back then where where was nineteen then peers apartment building nine hundred beers out of velociraptor pain on the side of it. Tearing through the wall of the night was a nominal huge Jurassic Park fans. I could probably recite that movie memory word by word back that up but I will say on that note. Can you loading up a way? So you talked about shopping. Based we looked at a lot of space I wanNA say like like we said we shot for about a year We looked at. I mean we looked up downtown with uptown. We were really close. On and old market lease we got denied by the people on the market But then so sears referring to displace over on Nineteenth Street Nineteen then peers. There was this really like that was that was probably the second closest we ever got there. Was this little like it had been a raw raw restaurant a the restaurant ahead of its time. Done very freaking. Well Yeah Yeah M.'s. Throwing up some very. I'm trying to remember the name of that place. It was called Green. Greens Nano Not Griego. Granville goes up part. This is cold. Was this the place to give you a discount if you walked came on your bike. That's green go. Oh No no one thousand nine hundred discount for coming on your bike. Green goes fucking awesome on the seat got protein more than anyone okay so regardless there was a raw food restaurant nineteen and it was basically the counter already set up. I'm GonNa let them live. That's fine but that was already set up and we were really fucking close because the building owners were more or less down with it and the rent was just hysterically low. Sofia's or something called it called some Dumb Shit. Daily daily daily grab shit 'em for the win daily grow. We were looking at it delegates race. Daley grubber moved out. They moved out because there was like some tough fucking instruction on the street the year prior and it went on for eight months at shut them down. I remember that it was nearly impossible to get to the shop. It is and she went on to do our own thing. And she's actually been far more successful at a new thing. So it's a call at five on the story scale. But she went on. Did the daily Grub thing and that carried on but then they'll construction finished bubble. The building was trying to get this retail space. Lin went out and so we were fucking close on it because a there was a velociraptor pain on side be. It was a pretty good sized slice of the mercury is now but it was a really good size and it already had a bar built into it and so it would have been like some quick. Rehab we probably could have spent like I'm Gonna. Roughly say about one twentieth of what we spent there would have been virtually no build out necessarily nowhere. It kind of was like do we really want to open a destination bar in two thousand jokes on easily and we looked at a ton of spots. It took us about a year. Change to find the welcome thank. You shouldn't actually microphone. Just brought it kind of muffled for radio so we looked at tunnel traces we entertain a Lotta offers but ultimately when this base game online because we were the first people to really look at that space okay. So the building that we're in was purchased. They converted it from two stories stories and then they never put on the market because they were using actually as material storage for the renovation bulldozers they would park all the excess two by fours and shit like that It was basically the storage space for them and in their mind. No one in their right mind would rent the space right so finally cleared out there on the market and we were like. Hey this phenomena winning. We're talking about Toronto floors from thirty eight. We're talking about a vault set in a wall in thirty eight or talk but we're also talking about not a stitch of electricity inch fucking plumbing nothing so it took us well. It took us over a year to get out and the cost what it cost but it was not the most financially savvy. Move to move into that space but for us. It really embodied a lot of what we're going for. We're going for light to capture the urban myths that Omaha can be. We'll end like that. You touched on that before. He said it now. But like I've I've lived here pretty much my entire life. I've gotten to go other places and I've been fortunate enough to lake go on vacations and see other like bigger bigger areas and markets and things like that and the thing that I always come back to is that like Omaha is large. But it's not like a big. It's not set up like your typical big city. You know like not. All of the activities happening in downtown like our downtown literally just like higher rises or medium rises with a higher. You know because we have the space. We have the space where those those buildings can build out of up. They don't they don't by necessity have to go upwards. They can go outwards and so in so lake. Our downtown area just feels almost like a ghost town compared to my sister lives in Vancouver BC. That place is bustling. All the Thai grows up and like Seattle is like my third home like I love that place like it always feels busy. Go to like downtown. Omaha like not the old market. That doesn't count downtown Omaha. The business district is a ghost town are no pedestrians but the the startling revitalization of that Sixteenth Street corridor. And I feel like you guys have been a huge part of that kind of like that and then like culprit is just up the block to sixteen. That sort of thing you go. It creates it. Creates start feeling so like it doesn't feel like a ghost town? If I wanted to walk from like mercury up the street to somewhere else you know and like grab it and then monarch Yup and Wilson in Washburn even away and like those. The thing that like eighty-one growing up that that never really existed for me and so now I'm finally starting to see those those wheel slowly start to turn a little more in that part of the city and that makes me really happy. No I don't think we're we're jazzed about that. We really and that was kind of why we went in there. Like like you said like it hasn't always felt like the cultural hub. But I truly feel like it's going that direction. Yeah you guys are are part of creating a neighborhood. We're doing to say that we're doing the Lord's no I want. A some people are saying like Oh. Are you afraid of the Green Room? No no are you afraid of wicked rabbit. No I want. I know what other you want other businesses to open your neighborhoods. That's all do it. Companies you guys To feel like yeah cool. So you don't want to go into a dark speakeasy Shankley and not ever is going to fight over the same dress. That's absolutely and that's the same thing like you when we go out. That is good so smart news good smelling those say this off. Okay so so yeah. That's we want we want. We want other businesses in the neighborhood. You WanNa be of a neighborhood. Thing is really. Yeah we want to be part of my Gosh and oasis. Can I just throw that in there? I think it is getting in for those. That don't know look what is always. Go ahead no. No you're excited excited all right so they originally started in Des Moines. They are a philosophical shop. Your General Fil nonsense but they have opened up a mmediately west of sixteenth and Harney. They have now expanded their hours. They do lunch Monday through Wednesday and dinner Thursday Friday Saturday and they may be fucking awesome Sunday hours now. I'm unsure Mediterranean food. If you like Vegetarian Food. It's so good it's it's it's executed in their scratch. Pita made from scratch. Social Media is fun. It's fun you'll give you that franchise. Oh Yeah Killing Mike. They're incredible people. Yeah and so they have philophical. They got they reimburse shit but a little hint a little hint for your listeners. Who are visiting Clark fast. Track to coming right at you now talking about this to happen and other polls you might be dead here comes the oasis hot tip if you go in they have a little like Bar They made this little jalapeno relish. Which is fucking to die for Zimbabwe. Do yourself a favor or through just two spoonfuls relish and makes it. In boom you got spicy Baga News and in your days fixed the Absolute Auto. Lock you out the door locked. And we know he's just stupid. No it's definitely outdoors test. My loyalty locked the door and he grew up in Baltimore Yummy. Tv has been stolen like actually while we were to go there. Is that a really. That's why you moved Omaha to get my TV. Tv's being stolen liquor before sir. And I moved here. We actually go habitat for about three weeks in Baltimore during the three weeks my TV. My computer and one of my dishcloths got stolen. I don't know I just like the yellow rubber gloves that used to come but yeah yeah no. I came in from work and like I was like Dick around my phone walking in from work and I came in. Tv On why don't have a TV ship. I was like I guess. I'LL WATCH TV ON MY LAPTOP. I guess too gasol vicious and one of my gloves gone. That was literally the hall from the very last robbery. I had to Baltimore. You gotta you gotTa think about it. That person must have really needed that one glove more than you. So the very white Karen part of me was maybe they were trying to cover their fingerprints. No Goddamn AK got stuck to what the guests? Dr Belt Loop was yeah. I believe it was a wet season. One you heard me still good. Oh to literally just talked about this the other day at work home alone. Two is the superior of the two home movies. I I actually agree with you. I'm going to go in that with a terminator two ace slap. Clark jaw dislocated Terminator. Two clearly superior. I'm learn to clearly the superior stop saying. That was a question mark. No no the waters Rewi Lady Pigeon Lady Donald Trump. No no fun though. It's funny you see him in a dominion no. He comes across as a giant blonde penis. Like I'm fine with foreshadowing again. Shadowing giant Blonde wrinkly being true flaccid penis kinda orange. Ooh Tens of Orange Spray Tampa mentioned. Tim Tim Curry Tim. Curry is it. Oh how dare you correct? Yeah how you're not the BELLHOP. He's the manager. The bellhop is a shadow fan lighter. Yeah also ahead. Yeah Yeah No. It's just a whirlwind. It's did they sweep the EMMYS that year or some better of so many way. It'll go show me last night going through some goddamn nonsense of the bars. I got a joint. I'm like Dr Phil. We have to. We have to freaky mention this review week. This are we talking lady and we ended up without this thing. We must talk about this thing that I have is my phone hang. It's so unbelievable I can't wait. It doesn't sound amazing. Is that a smooth transition. Really don't need to be around your your best voice on right now. Review River City was going. What's happening and all right? So name redacted we have a we have a Just a touch preps we have a facebook business page right and so people are free to message. That pays just come out. The managers were all linked to it. It comes to our phones Not this most not last night but the most recent Saturday we received this message and Clark and I at the time we had a full staff. So we're just watching on the security cameras. Keep drag taking screen shots or just checking on people. Whatever but we get this facebook notification it's a messenger. Facebook Messenger nine forty at notified nine forty eight. Pm One of your servers Comma Young Comma dark hair that needs cut comma. Just crop dusted US. East end of the bar period gross and disgusting period so this conversation amongst ceremony so that's the extent of message inside this lady this lady her name's redacted and she's not gone public with. Norway she complains to us that as I soon salsas and says that are serving needs. It's haircut which I it's really mama bear about like don't insult me and then complain. Don't do that. But then she accuses one of our servers of farting on her on purpose. And let's be real. That's a real thing you talk about it. We do This lady's doing this. Like oh on her. Ha Ha we all laugh right but intentionally. Do you ever sneak one off behind the bar. Some bar borrow bits and this is only the bartenders that are suffering. Brady is the last person who was allowed to ask that question. Because you even sneak. One off happens happens. Yeah I have known you really thought a kid who just drop these plates off. Crop Duster last started laughing. She goes hugh mother Fucker. horse intentionally goes out of their way to crop. Does somebody cut sports okay. I'm saying if they did what did you do. You fucking deserved if your crop dusted it's comedy. It's on purpose. Innocent people to finish up this transaction if one of your servers young dark hair that needs just cropped crop dusted us at the end of the bar. Gross and disgusting so Sarah and I came to a sitting on the couch. Like what do we say something so fucking ridiculous? Here's a sponsor came up with my understanding. Is that whoever smelt it dealt? You sent that actually no response. It was funny the next morning I wanted to call her bluff. I was like say whoever smelt it dealt it if she had replied with. Whoever DENIES IT SUPPLIES? We would have just basically you win. But she complained that someone on her bar. We talked to her like she was a fifth grader and she ran away sleep. Turn into a power. I was so disappointed. I was like really. I imagine her standing around water cooler. Like this happened to tell you I would bar and some bartender and pin. She'd responded and she's like hurt hurt now. Is it anywhere like Kay this sick and then everything nine? She's blinded anything like that. She told her friends. Like this Barton. Fargo complain about literally. There was like that happen. Guess what the business owner said whoever smelt it and the best possible rates of her friends were like. Oh my God. She backed out at Gotcha. I can't use a brain that you're gonNA WANNA put it off fucking t-shirt public with her name unless we fucking praying I was sending down to Allah were fucking role in the Goddamn drill hoping please because I want to just lately. I've never not once responded to review in three and a half years never not one negative review wide open. That was a message. And we've received we dumber messages. But that was the funniest one but if she had turned that into a Goddamn yelp review or Google or way have you one of us. Please please because I would lose my we. We spend a few days compiling response just to just I duNno. I also feel like that's probably the same west. Oh lady that drink white clause like throughout the day not realizing that they were alcoholic much. Like that's her alcohol in your system when you reply back zero percents. That's makes sure even better. We were playing Zelda breath of one Sarah had just gotten to the village and things are going pretty well and then I got that message from not just wanted to do this. Not just a message from facebook but it was also accompanied with the text message from my social media manager along with my investor along with someone who closely finds our facebook message base. I received basing my phone. Just melted upon this lady's bucking a message so then. I told the accused server purpose now like the hot cheese. Racha like she deserves down the Hem. At least do what you were accused done so. I immediately texted this so freaking brewed that. I screen shot the whole interaction senator. Sba I'm like. Oh my God. Yeah screen shot. Sba and serve Hanson's. Oh and so we have a back and forth and finally I just. I don't like she just Goddamn lucky. I didn't crop basis response. She di- intolerance select factor into this. Whole thing yeah yeah I just I I could not believe that was one of the rudest most awful things and insane absolutely insane. It's top ten. Customer Interactions Period turns out. She's a server does santarpio's Dunkin deals on just saying that's not appropriate. The term actually facebook's doctored all those details that was my. That was my first question to yeah crop. I know admittedly I been the industry for twenty years. So I don't know but I don't even know I have a buddy who just family owns a actual literal crop dusting company. Monica jokes that came from that family. Really Fun also dabble in Sky Writing. Because I need a good Guy Ryder. Actually riding married Victoria. When do they do that? Because I feel like it's the same plane load up their like. White crap yellow graph. What aviation we know a lot about it Clark. Or they're black. We talked about everything regarding somebody opened up a business that was fake Restaurant whatever but opening up a crop dusting company and not actually dusting crops just farting people. What does it have legs? It has so many legs. I got one hundred dollars towards upper legs. What if what if it's like what if it's like like Pajamagram or something like that where you were you pay someone. Send them through a specific person person. A great idea or now convinced this lady that this is a real or you don't even have to send the person despite into a box and then shipped to them so know. I've heard if you for no coffee cannon seal it up and somebody opened up. It's still smells like go far? You are we talking about restaurants or what not talk a whole lot of outrageous boomerang story. 'cause it's my favorite time. Shut my fans Tony. Tony Gordon's my favorite tomorrow. You're like I don't want that on there. Just let me know. No I'm GonNa tell you this story. I most parties its mascot one thousand nine hundred ninety two thousand two okay So I am a grill cook at this Irish restaurant which I alluded to earlier. I also on top work an eight hour day ahead of that. I'm working construction. Your microphone quarterback all right So that we talked about working. I Irish Bar Burger flipping burgers. I would do that for about eight hours. But the AIDS PRIOR. I would work for a construction company The month we're talking about is July. The city we're talking about Baltimore is hot. It is humid The average heat index is about one ten And I am working in a tie back suit which is like one of those bunny suits mid nineties. You know And so basically what I would do is I would wake up at about five or six am I will get one tie back suit and would tear shit apart for about eight hours. Tear out. Good Burger Shop Flip Burgers in front thing. What I'm getting at is I sweat a lot like a lot a lot for about two months straight and so I just like pound water pound vitamin water pound gatorade. Take your pick. Whatever fluid not so much alcohol. I don't know I was nineteen. I was also concurrently in a band at that point And so we would get. We will get you know gigs around the city as you would. There's a handful of like bigger bigger place downtown where we play We got a really really good spot on a Friday night. And we were opening for a National Act. And we're really pumped about it. So I put my requests in about three weeks prior and got that night off at the restaurant so I went that morning and I did demo at the at the construction company. I'm working I'm working at home now. I'm milken not so the day of the show comes up so the day of the show comes up. I have my way into a night off so I go ahead and do I do demo. That morning I go I go to my house and I looked at my car. Wash it and we go down. I go downtown. I go to the club. we've I find. I find it right there. Unload throw it all in and so now it's time for the manager to sign the contract and say cool. I'M GONNA go ahead and pull my car I'M GONNA PARTNER CAR and I'll be back to sign contracts. He goes okay cool and so. I'm driving downtown Baltimore and I find a spot. I fuck you not two blocks away from the club. That was top five life achievements. So I find this spot and I hop out pull out my fucking like eighty cents or whatever it takes and I just think Plunkett in there. I'm like man. Today is a good day off of the restaurant. I'm going to be opening for this National Act. I have the appropriate. Amount OF CHANGE. In my pocket plunk plunk stays as good day is nice and hot but I'm not sweating my dick off the grill and so oh cock-up one pull the fucking chain. I had been drinking so much liquid point that like everything that came out of me at that point was reminiscent solid. What happened is in downtown Baltimore During Rush? Hour? I would like to bring up. I had shit my pants and because I had cocked up all went down to the blind the one line so I now have a pant leg full of leg also And Shit Yeah. It's a really grace's term for this. It's basically brown fluid just jettison data my ass but my sock was wet at that gives you. The indication has come out so then at that point. I am now sitting two blocks away from the club in which I'm about to play a show in two hours with a sock that is wet from my shit. I called the guitarist and I'm like hey I have an issue. He's like what's wrong. You partly far away and whatnot close. He's like what do you what do you need. I need you to pick me up. He's like we'll just walk dude. I'm like it's a different issue. Can you come in? Can you come in just drive by? I A hand here so I see his eight oldsmobile. Come around the corner. I'm stolen phone with them. I'm like oh I see you go ahead and unlock your back doors. He goes cool. Unlicensed back doors peg-leg it back door and launching face. I somehow may would like to- closed the door behind me and go. Hey ship my pants I gotta I gotTA clean up before the show he goes but I have to sign the contract before the show. I was like well. The shows on two hours in the time. It was like cool. Can you drive me home this Baltimore? It's a small town? Can you drive me home afterwards? He's like I just got to go back to the club so he drives up pulls up on the sidewalk in parts of carbon. He's signed the contracts while he signed the contracts I just for reference is about three minute process the the other guitarist and the band happens the walk by and sees me laying face down the back of. Hey Dude what's up? I go I shit. My pants he goes cool. And what's that right after that? The drummer of your walks up and goes dude. Are you okay? Shit my pants. He's a cool and walked back on no none none nor any like nor nor any like nor any indication that this is out of the normal. Then we're about away from some measures back but don't know that yet and then the car smoke billowing out from underneath the hood so I am now in the backs even night and nineteen eighty eight oldsmobile. Pant Bullshit face-down cars overheating. I ever to give myself to the fort lip the ignition just enough and he comes back and goes you do what the fuck. Why did your my car off? It's hot out. Aca running your car on fire does that. He then took me to a house. I took a shower. We went back and played a very successful show with as the story of the time. I Shit my pants downtown on the streets of Baltimore that is. That is yeah. That's a bar story fucking last. What's funny is that even in current correze drunk shots after story. J. God do it might shit hurts right now. A story scared to take a shot. Now what if I shit my pants? We'll let me tell you if you're in a band literally do who who ran the it department for the Maryland. Branch of whole foods went cool businesses. You'RE GONNA do. They were interviewing. I think it was Walter. Cronkite congress. Podcast. That'd be amazing But interview he had turned like seventy seventy five. Something like that and someone was like. What are your like tips to be successful in your old age and never turned down. A drink always follow through interaction. Oh Never Trust Fart and I hold those very close to you because I'm only thirty but still those things are very true. Shit my already. They're already true. Yeah Yeah be careful grace. Those are all very valid. I feel age. Notwithstanding follow through on a part is what it sounds like. I did for you. Came up with the other. Two always Never turn on a drink and always fall through interaction within a fraction. Yeah that really well. It's an older man basically. Yeah Yeah who cares? It's not just at the very least. Hold up your fucking battle okay. You're shots Beds shitting you pay sheet in your pants. Everyone does it to having Mediocre Pan mates that don't care about your no no no. They were the best they were because they didn't care they were just musicians. I suppose that is just Baltimore. Sometimes you shit your pants that just happened out really not say. I mean I hesitate to do this. Really value a hands. Who's not sure pants? I haven't got thank you all right. I got one hung. I know it's coming up with this anonymous. Been there a few table. One person said they also shit their pants? We talk and then we have three. We have three people who are aligned. Yeah it's not a matter of right I feel if that's what you're talking it up to well. Okay not a picky man diaper like. It's different so if you WANNA compare Omega word hypotheticals who saying I'm not I depend zone I have. I don't even know if this is worth going back to you but Probably not. How long have you guys had the mercury concept before it was even a thing that you had an investor? You had that sort of thing. Has this been brewing. Since you've like for like years or was that kind of like Oh shit. We have an opportunity to do this. What are we WANNA do? May I answer this? Are you okay with that? I'M GONNA make a Lotta generalizations about when I first met you but when I first met Clark Kitchen golly he was I mean this was probably nine and a half to ten years ago That was when you were. I really interested in pursuing craft bartending. And it was really cool to see. You actually try to do that for the first time. It was some stuff that I have never seen or heard of before. It was cool to watch you. You made a tomato water cocktail with the cucumber phone nine years ago. And you put that on your resume for for Omaha and I thought that was really cool if like the first time that I had ever seen anything like that and especially itching. Golly there was just classic Italian so is basically GRONYEA's and It was just awesome to see. I felt like you really wanted your own thing. You wanted to do your own thing. You're inspired by that. And that was. That was great so maybe I don't know back. Then it was the name the branding Is that something that you've been just like? Have fucking notebook Ho years of like the name the branding. I WANNA back for a hot sack as far as like the concept goes beer wine liquor picked to that. Is the mantra for everyone. Who's opening a Bar? The vast majority them pick beer and wine are. I'm sorry beer and liquor. You have a Tom. Beer words some beer have a tunnel or some liquor and then you have like a bottle of wine floating around. That's been like hopefully not collecting moult right okay. So that's the vast majority of bars in America. We wanted to go with liquor cocktails parenthetically and wine. Sarah has a and quite frankly in my opinion unparalleled ability to put wine in the in the face. The General Public. I have a in my opinion unparalleled ability. Put Liquor in the face of the general public so remind so we wanted to ultimately we were talking about the the the genesis of the place. We wanted to go with like. What is the bar that we want to hang out at? We're at that point twenty eight. What is the bar ruining out? We want to hang out a place. Where the service is plentiful in kind of not aggressive. We're hang out place where the furniture is comfortable. We don't want. Tv's there too goddamn distracted all the bits and Bob Wills of the beverage scene and then we want just a comfortable as to how you have a good time and yeah you guys. Yeah I think Sarah's decor ever going on there but yeah go on I'm just saying I feel like what you were saying earlier before this whole podcast even started is that it's very hard to go to a place where you think the wine is going to be good quality by the glass and the you could get it until two in that wanted. That's like I am serving wines by the glass The reds correct temperature have them in a cooler and we pump them every night. It's part of our closing shift and Opening shift though the white wines there a little cold because they're stored in the same back Cooler as the beer. But you can always cup your hands around the glass and I really wanted. I just wanted people to be able to drink wines by the glass until two in the morning. It's not a big. It's not a thing you know. My heart is not and we also offer. I mean so Sarah has put together so Sarah thank terribly sorry. That's the thing that Sarah has said like says Syria has been the psalm for Mercury for a very long time and she is one might say since forever. But here's the other list of well over one hundred bottles and those bottles are just phenomenal. Those bottles are available in dl to. Am which is something. That's unusual for Omaha. Which all say and I love corked bottle there actually one of my heroes. Yes yes and I also loved the boy. The Room it was like classic minds from Classic region. So that's what I went with for the for Mercury Classic Wines Classic regions but also United States. And that's what I gained from lot to. It's like you can have very high quality American wines from New World Countries. It turns out it is possible so. I didn't want to have a bunch of grocery store wines. I wanted to have like high quality wines and an an insane delusion of grandeur that I had was that I could actually taste every single bottle before I put on lists. I actually did. I did remember day risk. I was yeah it's true and actually Mo was so kind giving me her courage cups. That's right that's right. Yup I actually really really did. That tasted every single model. And I have my own. I'm crazy. Note taker I have my own tasting notes about every bottle and I supply to all of my servers about my opinions on this wine and also the context of Wyatt chose it. Because I think when you're learning mine another important thing is to know why. Why is it on here? Like I chose this because it's from the Willamette valley but it's this and they're sustainable and they're cool and everyone has a story and I felt like I needed to tell people down whether or not being aired I. I love the context of the bottles. Y. Y YOU FELT. They were important enough to end up on your list. You know to me. That's that's key to a wine program. If you can't back up why those bottles are there. Why are there at all right so tell us a little bit outlets kind of coming up for For Mercury for you guys and some some of the upcoming fun things. Yes so we do a lot of events with. We're trying to do more with local bars and charities and all sorts of businesses in the area were trying to keep it Omaha Central. What are the things we do in the fall? Is Harry Potter night? It has been one of our most busy nights of the entire year. Remember last year insanely went. We went to the turn out was queasy I didn't make it. They're off work in time. I think it started when we opened. Oh did it okay? Apps we got their own accelerate it was sh so many. Just warm bodies. We thought we were sitting there. It was it was an line out the door at least half a block at four which I did not expect at all and so Yeah it was a it was a our idea at mercury. We really wanted to do Harry Potter night. Because I love Harry Potter was actually eleven when the Harry Potter books. So you're waiting for your you know that's not how actually happened. I just was in competition to read all the books before the rest of my brothers because we passed it along Through sibling to sibling. So my dad and I would stand in line at Barnes and noble. Read it real quick and then pass it around to the rest of our families so completely female driven. It was awesome. I guess I did not realize ladies just fucking. That's very cool cocktails. Yes I really wanted to promote Female bartending bad assery. And especially downtown. I feel like it's not a super popular thing. And so I brought in some people from night owl marcy and Monica of course who are amazing amazingly talented ladies and Spicer and Jocelyn and. We were horrendously understaffed or what happened. And that's a really cool so so this year we decided to bring in more people delaney will also be helping us and John Wilbur. Ding is going to help Agusan. Emily West Virginia. Who's actually honor staff as well. Yeah so it's going to be more like three opening bartenders. Three closing just to make sure that we're completely in the clear because last year was insanely awesome in the turn out was unprecedented and I have a lot of learning to do but yeah it was cool so I'm really excited about the cocktails here. They're super creative and very funny is that that is Thursday November. Twenty four th which is not this week but next week okay cool and you sorry say so this episode will actually yeah. We'll come out after after that after that. You also do a really cool other thing. Every HOLIDAY SEASON EVERY YEAR. We do this miracle event where it started as this Christmas Pop Up bar in Manhattan. Yeah which Barr started that. The bar is called Mace Mason download down in lower man. Okay Brooks Oh is working there now. Isn't she she maker? Shoemaker says she's not quite there but so when Mace was getting started about five years ago The owner of the bar was getting everything ready to go and his mom. Here's an old Jewish lady. He's in to his boy was like. Oh why don't you do a do a holiday bar okay as well. I don't have any permits and stuff. Yeah and she's like well you got. You got what you need you got. You need to go ahead and do that. And so he did. And so that was about five years ago. And so it's this it's called just just called Miracle Miracle basically a franchised hop pop away. Yeah so they write. The recipes for the cocktails may make the menus and we just adapt them however every bar is open to interpretation so if there are certain cocktails that we don't like as much we can kind of adjust from there so we we do that and every bar across this is a worldwide event. It starts black Friday and ends New Year's Day but every bar has a different concept of decor. And so it's very cool to go to all the different locations and check them out. Last year we went to Kansas City and And there were many there was one in Des Moines and you can go and visit all the different ones. What we did was kind of a vintage Christmas slash blowout which is as like dude. I I feel like I walked in and like every time during that period. I I I just like tasted peppermint peppermint every time I logged in. I was like whole man and I've always been a decorator so we took it to the Max last year. The United States here we go even farther like it's going to be even saying so I can't wait I. I'd love decorating in every aspect. So I WANNA go crazy. Have you done this every year? That you've been open or this is this will only be the second time third time second time. The first year they offered to us we said no because we weren't ready like we were scared. Because it involves your purchasing of glassware tools and liquor as well as by of that. Yeah so you buy the glass where you buy the tools and optional. Yeah yes yes and they said if you don't do it no one else in Omaha is going to do it so it was a little bit of pressure. Yeah well that was next question so like it's not something that a bar applies to be a part of something that they saw ads out and ask you to do this. Part is is invitation. That is so cool. All Right Click. Sarah thank you so much. You guys thank you. This has been a joy. Thanks for hanging out drinking a bunch of Having a Sunday. Thank you cheers. Frasier ended thanks tears.
Episode 30: Why Decarceration Matters Now, and Why it Always Has
"And welcome to drugs and stuff podcast from the drug policy alliance. Hello and welcome to another episode of Dirksen Stuff. I'm your host Gabriela Miura's on our last episode. Mary Silla talked about how as someone who's worked as a civil rights attorney and studied epidemiology. She wanted to make it very clear that we cannot ignore people locked up in prisons and jails especially now as Cova nineteen has spread throughout the country. Today were digging. Further into the issue of incarceration in the midst of a global pandemic. Dpa's managing director of policy. Advocacy and campaigns. Cassandra FEDERICO SAT down with CJ. Sarah Mela a criminal justice reporter at reason and Secure Cook Justice Reform Program Director at the Leadership Conference on Civil and human rights to talk about justice reform and drug policy in the age of covert nineteen. Hi everyone my name is. Cassandra Frederick and I am the Managing Director of policy advocacy and campaigns. Here at the drug policy aligns. I want to welcome you to another episode of drugs and stuff are podcast. Today it is my pleasure to be a discussion with reasons. Criminal Justice reporter. Cj Sarah Miller and the leadership conference on Civil and Human Rights Justice Reform Program director Sierra Puck A. We're going to be a conversation today to talk about drug policy and justice reform in the age of Ovid nine team so secure in C. J. Welcome to our podcasts. The Zoom Greg. Thank you based around me on. So we're just going I'm going to take the moderators privilege of also being a discussing in this conversation. Just for us to have a conversation to other part of the reason why we thought it would be great for us to have a conversation about justice reform and drowsy Ovid was because cj you were one of the first reporters to break the story around the first deck inside a federal custody. And I think I'm secure and I told you this before we started that you know your piece really just not only elevate about a death had already happened in federal custody. But that's the duck was of someone who was in on a drug charge and you know since last in the last couple of days we realized that based on the Bureau of Prisons US releases five out of the seven. First DADS have died from coded. Those people all had drug charges ranging from possessions that incentives l. And so you know I just want to open it up that we're in the middle of this global pandemic were in a conversation about mass incarceration for at least the last decade in a really high tempered way I'm drove policy has been spreading throughout the country. You know some people have the conversation about whether or not drug policy is criminal justice reform if it's something different and it's just so interesting in this moment that as we're having conversations about decarbonisation as we're having conversations about how we move things forward at the first five people inside the on the seven peoples federal custody on all drug charges and so what do. Ya think about that. What did we learn from that? that's kind of where. I WANNA side wall. I mean if you at the prison demographics at the federal level there are a lot of drug offenders in federal prisons in state prisons They make more of minority. And you see people. In for more property in Alan Crimes Been Federal Position. There's a ton of drug offenders so in that sense it's not. I'm not surprised to hear that. Although you know obviously alphabet disparity between the state and federal system and also Sort of as states have managed to reform a lot of their drug policies. We haven't seen that at all at the federal level as far as people getting and staying in on really long drug charges. You know there's been like these very modest efforts with the Obama clemency effort and then the first step back to draw those numbers down. And we've seen like the curve on the Federal Prison for since we're talking about flattening curves We see in the federal prison population. Start to actually flatten out and drop a little But I think it shows just how far we go we have to go to actually D- Car serrate our reform. Some of our our drug policies at the federal level. See Day is right. You know when we first even learning the first person passing in federal prison leadership conference in many of our coalition members of policy alliance and many many others in the civil in Human Rights Criminal Justice advocacy community. Saw what was happening with respect to this pandemic you know and I will say society and immediately knew that those are incarcerated. Sort of bad boehner population will be overlooked and enough wasn't being talked about. It enough wasn't happening at the federal level and even to some extent at the state and local level to move quick enough to to see that we needed to depopulate right. We have two point two almost three million people in prisons in jails throughout this country and the way that this virus spreads People who were in close quarters right people who are in prison that are overpopulated. You know it's very difficult to social distance. You can't do that unless you're putting people solitaire. Violent or locking them down for twenty two twenty three hours a day. Which in our view would be inhumane and so we were very concerned that this administration was not moving quick enough in that knowing that almost like CJ said Almost half of the federal prison population are there for drug offenses. Like you have people who probably shouldn't be. There are serving time because of mandatory minimum sentences that are related to drug crimes had no recourse except for Congress to take a step in the B. O. Key to use their discretion to release people and unfortunately in the case of Patrick Jones. Who was the young man who passed He was eligible for a sentence reduction under the first epoch as CJ mention But he was denied. And that was I mean. I think one of the most horrific things about his cases that he just started was just so it laid bare the inequities and Sort of the real structural inequalities and problems with the war on drugs and how it has played out over the last forty or so years and how it continues to be used as a tool for social control of black and Brown communities In in that is the war on drugs. I think is Poster child for how. The criminal legal system operates in our society in that's really problematic thing and Jones and then the other poor individuals who also were serving time for dropping missions. They were sentenced to death right. They were not sentenced to to die in prison because of a drug conviction and that's really unfortunate that that that is what happened. Yeah I mean the thing that the thing that struck me about his case when I started looking into it you know I don't I wanNA make I don't WanNA use his life and death is like a prop You know but but when I was looking at it like there is just so many steps along the way where you know if there if there had been some sort of diversion or just like Soleil Change. In the way that the criminal justice normally operates There's a good chance you would still be alive. You know he was. I just like this litany of things. Us wrapped up in course plea bargaining and. When he turned down a plea bargain he went to trial and lot got hammered with a twenty seventy or sends Which is a criminal defense attorneys and a lot of advocacy? It's called the trial penalty. Where have you turned down a plea bargain and you get the extreme sentence whereas otherwise you might get off with way under the sensing guidelines so it incentivizes you do Forgo your constitutional right to a jury trial. Now's the arbitrators right. You know it's like if you know if the prosecutors were willing to offer him a deal for you know. I don't know what the deal was. 'cause they're secret when his wife got a plea bargain for three years in prison and they were both indicted in the in the same criminal conduct. So yes you know if if a three year sentences appropriate in one case why you know why is it? Suddenly Jabs Twenty seven years. And then he was. You know Denied Clemency under the Obama Clemency Initiative. Which was supposed to prioritize people serving long non-violent drug sentences but there are thousands of inmates were denied even though they met the criteria. And I you know. I don't know the specifics If he was totally eligible or not but he had a case. At least we're looking at but she was denied that he was denied under the first step back where she was eligible for the prosecutor the US Attorney's office opposed it And said that he was a career. Criminal and the judge agreed based on his past history which was a string of burglaries seventeen and then a three drug crimes. Which are there was? He made like three salesman undercover officer and was arrested on for all three sales sewing. He's not like he was first time offender but it had any violent criminal history. And you know if at least one of those parties long away somewhere said like okay. You know. Maybe we won't do the usual thing. Throw the book and oppose this just because that's their job or keep them in prison forever. You Know Patrick Jones might might have gotten a chance to get out or even under you know if the federal government had taken quicker action. The prison said no less like get. Everyone can't outright now You know maybe he would have gotten out in the OT has taken bureau. Prisons has taken action to get elderly. Anat risk inmates out. They told me they approved. I think five hundred seventy five hundred twenty five Transfers on consignment so far which sounds like a lot but there are about twenty thousand federal inmates over the age of fifty five And if you extrapolate what you're saying earlier about drug offenders we can assume that there are thousands of elderly Drug offenders were waiting there for transfer. I'm getting emails everyday from People in a FC Dallas spill a federal women's prison in Alabama. You know they're in wheelchairs in like just wondering if they're going to get released and they're on lockdown for twenty three hours a day So it's you know there's a lot of people really scare a lot of family members who were really scared from their loved ones and you know I I often is so important and based on the people that have taught me is like these are people who are in these cages right. These are not these are not offenses. These are people who are connected to multiple communities And are more than what they are charged with and I think one of the things. That was most interesting to me. Is that elevating this conversation about the people that have passed away. These historically these are none of the people that advocacy organizations potentially would have elevated the CJ Right you said you know this is not this. This wasn't this person's first time. Mr Jones had a previous record. He had burglaries. He had other drug charges he was selling. He was not a user way like he wasn't charged with using these conversations where we as an advocacy organization all the message in Congress up bushes you. You're incentivized to use a particular kind of messaging narrator and I think even in this moment. Covert is cushioning and laying bare at the structural inequities of our legal system. It's also pushing the structural inequities in the way we do advocacy That we put forward in the the things that we try to bill compassion for and so it is this moment where the system but you know is being held accountable but also the advocacy community is right because now it's like you know the violent the nonviolent the first time the first time you got charged or if you have multiple charges. I don't think any of you guys that you you got a death sentence right so it's like do you want? It's like yes there is. We're in the middle of a pandemic like we actually do have to recognize that these archetypes that we've created for advocacy. We could have always challenged them but they are not appropriate for this moment and and they may not have ever been I if we believe in the core of why we're doing this advocacy and so you know. I don't know how you what you think about that. Secure out but you know. I know we're like yeah. We asked those people should get out. Yes no I think. I think you're right April the second chance month. I mean I don't really ask some personal feelings about the second chances because I feel like sometimes people never got a first chance you think. About the structural inequality inequity society right holistically but second chance month is all is supposed to be about the fact that there is a recognition that people are more than the worst thing they've been right or then the worst day they've ever had and the worst mistake they've ever made and that we as a society and as as as humanity Should recognize the inherent goodness everyone and that that you know rehabilitation or Someone has the opportunity to make a different choice right and and do something different with their lives. And I think that Unfortunately our criminal legal system has often been used as a tool for punishment and not as a tool for People to have a moment to reflect. And to get the tools they need to help rehabilitate themselves and I think there are other countries we know that in other countries they use their systems very differently right Often the case that people while they may get a prison sentence they are often haul let out. They can go and continue their lives. Continue to work. They have to check into the prison within. Go back into the community and there's a there's a realization. I think in that model that these are still members of our society right. They are people that we just throw away. And I think the the tropes that we've created in the unity of violent and nonviolent or sort of hierarchy of offenses are more worthy of our Of Our forgiveness and then others Is really problematic in works against this idea or this notion that That people aren't inherently good and that people often their environmental surroundings are the things that they can't go through in their life Trauma that they may have face imp- the way that they show up in the world and that that some of that has to do with the way our society is structured right the the inequality that exist in society and so I think as an amnesty community. I think we started so see that before. This moment at this moment is is particularly light shining a light on the fact that will do this work. We're trying to transform the criminal legal system holistically and a that doesn't create a hierarchy of individuals who've made mistakes. Everyone deserves an opportunity. We need to create structure and a system. That is not inequitable is fair in his just for everyone regardless of what they've done regardless of the mistakes of. May each of us have probably done things that we got caught you know would have landed us somewhere else and somewhere we might not want to be And I think when it comes to drug offenses the reason why it was so easy for people to say you know. Use The non. Violent violence is sort of Because we're like okay. You know usually Using drugs of selling drugs somewhat of a personal choice and I think it was easy enough to say. You haven't harmed anyone right event you know committed you haven't killing me one having committed some violent quote unquote violent offense sword. Anyone but I think that while that might true even those who have any violent offenses or things like that. The opportunity for redemption. I mean I think that they have the opportunity for rehabilitation. I think that is true for anyone. Anyone has remained mistake in so we should approach the transformation in the changes when our criminal legal system perspective bet if it's has purpose the for healing the purposes for restitution the purposes for rehabilitation in. Initially yeah I mean there is a quote from Kevin. Ring is the president of Fam- a criminal justice group in yet according article about Patrick. John's wasn't in my article. But be it's an paraphrasing a little bitty says Lanza You know you don't have to be perfect for your life to have worked out. I think the the Criminal Justice Movement or at Lahti Advocacy routes I win. This really started picking up. Steam may sort of pragmatic decision. To say we're going to focus on drug crimes because that serve low hanging fruit. If you want to get you if you want to make an argument to conservatives in Congress or organizations that serve on the fence about it you can say listen you know. These people are serving like dog on his face embarrasses that you'd be hard pressed and people think they make sense like a non-violent violent drug offenders serving a life sentence reverse time offense like almost everyone can agree. That's insane so they made a pragmatic on that milady. Said I think that's that focus and that distinction doesn't doesn't hold up when you're facing sort of ecstasy existential threat to life in prison like you're dealing with something like you're on a virus and it's it's highly in that and I don't think it's I think viruses as put a spotlight on that but it was always there like prisons are notoriously filthy cows crisis in general when the flu goes through their light it. It's always it's always bad condition. Someone has gets exacerbated when they get to. I mean there's no real medical care I mean I have personal stories that I could share that. It's just really riffing this all right. C. J. Took it you know know. Just like the medical neglect. There are several prison systems. And I'm probably I'm probably understating. There's at least central better the blame Li violating the constitution because of the lack of care that they provide for their medical care and just ensuring their own safety in Mississippi. You both had horrific Spates of violence in debt inside their prisons this year and the Justice Department told Alabama. That like you need to fix this this. You're violating inmates constitutional rights and that's the that's the trump justice department. They're not really looking to you. Know they haven't been different priority than the Obama Justice Department. If you have the Justice Department Civil Rights Division under president trump telling you that you're not providing institutional level of care for. Inmates is pretty bad. You know what's interesting? I WanNa pull something else out in the tropes that arm and this is the way that security used in the tropes. I want people from another out his day that but I believe that that we have created around advocacy. You know one of the things. We often talk especially around. Drugs is how much it is. A health crisis right like addiction is up the issue. What's so interesting in this moment and we see it you know. I've done Agassi in New York. I'm where we've been fighting. Back against. Bill rollbacks is that we are finding now that law enforcement is saying well. You know we can't let the people in let people out who are here on drug charges as you know. They're addicted and we can provide nor help and resources for them. You can't just let them out. You know they mean resources and it's just completely a mind Get Chris on a mind puzzle up a law enforcement taking our talking points in the middle of a pandemic where we're saying we're in a public health crisis in the moment that we're saying prisons and jails and detention centers. Do not have the medical capacity to deal with this crisis in New York are district attorney in New York City. Our district Chinese wrote a ladder to say to the The New York City mayor. You need to instill confidence that our jails can handle medical crises right. Like no you gotTa let people know that we can handle this prosecutors. By the same time that the position of rikers island. The notorious jail in New York City is literally risking his job being like. We can't do this in need to let people out we can't. We don't have the range for this when you have. You Know Bristol Sheriff on connect it yesterday on George Stephanopoulos show. I'm speaking. We can let them out. We we know how to do this. And we can give them treatments. He's you know I don't use the word acts. But that's what he was using either addicts addicts need help and only we can help them. Where are they going to get help on the outside and so for me? It's like a couple of like it's the trope of them taking on the narrative of being a health crisis and then being better suited and organized to give that. Because we don't have that on the outside right. It's also this idea that have we not talked about the alternative as much as we should because we have pointed out the solution but we haven't always been as clear about what the alternative is because the alternative is not forcing people to go to treatment right so DPA. If committed one of our founding principles and one of the things that we commit to autonomy and people should always have the ability to make decisions and forcing people into course of treatment. Which is what people are saying in this moment right like let's just get people into and it's like these things are also both of these are not these so. I Colon nineteen forcing us to end this moment when there is a problem to offer the solution at the time. I'm and I think that is something that's interesting And different from me in this moment where we actually have to say we need to let people out and right now you know folks are talking about. We're letting people out bill also meet re entry but it's also laying bare all the ways that when people get out of the criminal legal system that they can't always a certain places it can't go back to public housing. They can't get on Medicaid. There's just so many different things like food supports on it and so it's like how do we build out the infrastructure? And how do we use this moment build out that infrastructure because law enforcement is smartly wanting out all the things that we don't have been in the Free Society Way to support people that are hurting. Well I think that that's an important point. And I think that is hoping to make the case for the argument that we've been making so many years main leadership conference working with CPA has fought tooth and nail to do things stop Congress from passing these very restrictive laws related to access to public benefits for people who are formally incarcerated but let specifically for people with drugs. I mean there are particular pieces a statute federal law that blocked people with drug offenses only be more drug offenses access to snap from to Um Higher Education from Hell. I mean from access to A number of things and it's a wonder that it's only people with drug offenses are choosing to not have access to the types of social supports in social safety nets that are important for people transitioning out of prison And so I think as we think about similars for those are the things that high on our priority right. We want Medicaid for everyone both in prison outside of prison lifting the ban on access to snap on and other benefits for people It's using the housing resources that were given in stimulus to focus them for formerly incarcerated people and connecting them to adequate housing and shelter for themselves. removing all bands on employment and access to higher education. I mean these are all I think especially in the second chance month. He's all critical pieces. That are our legislators. Should be taking up. There should be no reason that we continue to punish people after. They've already been punished right after. They've already Supposedly have been rehabilitated. And serve their time in prison. I mean I think that's a fundamental flaw in this ideology that you know We are sending people to prison. To serve their time into you know rehabilitate but then when they come out. They have a whole host of of collateral consequences that are associated with a conviction especially a drug conviction and also a flaw in the theory that funneling more and more more more money into the war on drugs. Action is going to help us move towards society where people are not using or invasion drugs to actually if you supported the public health system in a way that provide the opportunity for people to seek treatment. Should they choose? And I think that we're seeing law enforcement as especially sort of tried to use the public house saying that we contribute one president. Remember 'cause drugs. The drug war on drugs is money. That's what it's always been about. It was initially started. Right to To tamp down on the black power movement and use of the Anti War hippie movement but then they realize a what this is actually money for the United States. I mean the government actually make dollars off of the warned. Rush is big business. I mean why. Why do we see that you know Especially federally it is big business. Why did you see that? Almost fifty percent of the federal population there for drug offenses is not the same at the local level and those Those task forces that are joint right state task forces that joint federal task sources that kick up state officials. And I think that's one of the reasons why we don't see as many drinks at the state level is because it's so easy to make a what could have been a state charge for drugs in federal charge than together to to make those cases federal crimes that would have normally been prosecuted at the state level because the federal sentences are much higher right role Mandatory that are associated with drug offenses are much higher in. It's quite frankly. Sometimes much easier to get a conviction at the federal level than it is sometimes at the state level and so I mean these are all things that that I think those moment of Kobe. Nineteen I helped further. Elevate like the work that we've consistently done to about unfair and inequitable sentencing Regime the released a mandatory minimums federally assets on drugs has failed and that new approach a public health approach in that public how the protests exists outside of the context of the criminal legal system. You can't treat people. And then also incarcerate them at the same time those who do not work and do not make sense And to the extent that there are people who are participating in drug treatment programs at the federal level that are death is just get that year offer their sentence. I mean most people join are not the only way you can reduce your sentence reduce your sentence. I mean it's not necessarily because I have a a drug issue is because I'm trying to get early because I've been hit with a ten year mandatory and I need off my sentence. You know what I mean so I mean I think there are so many different problems with the notion that the criminal legal system in law enforce it is the best place to treat someone who has addiction or what has an addiction or someone who has been struggling will With with using certain types of drugs I mean. It's just mind boggling to me. They can't even treat the common cold or you know any other type of virus or underlying health conditions but they can treat people who who need assistance with With something that they're struggling with at at. Yeah it's not realistic in. It's just another way to keep people incarcerated into keep making money off of them. I mean the idea argument that you have to keep people in jail or prison to provide them. Mental health or drug treatment is kind of laughable. You only thing you do. When you put someone views addicted to drugs and is them easy? Access to tainted drugs jails. Our prisons are full of really nasty drugs. And they're not hard to get in. The level. Programming is pretty abysmal. In most places there there is like a sad. There is sort of a sad truth to what they're saying. If you talk to a lot of errors in big cities will tell you that their jails are the largest mental health providers and county or substance treatment to right so. I mean they are. They are filling in a gap in a lot. you know. Correctional officers are not mental health professionals. And now probably don't enjoy doing that They would police officers correctional officers. I think rather not be in that all the time because after the SDS titutional is in prison. Just sort of took over that role is also going to say here is interesting. What you're saying about the federal task forces Yeah a lot of cases. Noble asset forfeiture whether seizing. They're seizing property in cash and things like that. And when they bumped up to the federal level they don't have to abide by state rules which are sometimes stricter than the feds Omra The other thing was a drug Rehab Places like that reasons written a lot about sort of the problems and issues that trump corson mandatory drug treatment creates. And you know if you're an anchor if you're like an incremental list and you might say that okay well mega something good at trump for might still be bad but it's still better than going to prison. That's an argument but there are huge problems. Some drug coarser much better than other ones. Some of them are pretty bad. In a lot of times they impose significant costs on people who go through them pay for the which is mandatory. And there's like a fairly lucrative industry and providing those services for drug courts. There's mandatory Basically you can get assigned to work for companies and things like that as part of a Rehab Program In some cases you work for free as a condition of your mandatory treatment. Propublica as a huge series of articles on mandatory drug rehabs at working for Free Gino's long that's is basically slave labor and your healthcare workers comp claims and injuries. And you can't complain about it or else you dye your program and go to prison so there are huge problems with going out. That infrastructure even tried carse rate. A move into these other programs created this whole like tertiary system of sort of less than ideal profiting and lack of autonomy. I think he brought that word up. It's still coercing people into these abusive programs and soaking them in fines and costs. So you know I think one of the biggest point that we're on right now is how arbitrary This conversation around public safety at the federal level in general. You know we see this and the fact that we are able to carceres and we're not seeing prime go up and all these different things you know. Prosecutors are looking at less than being these people. Don't we're not gonNA charge these people for these things like it's really calling into question in this movement having US look at Kind of what outside. Structures look like how pervasive the criminal legal system is. I mean secure. I was so grateful that you brought up all the ways. That people who are charged with bogs are specifically targeted one of the big projects. That decays coming out with In the fall is a massive report around mass criminalization looking at multiple systems at national and looking at New York as a bag of how drug laws are paying out. And we're really excited about that to really get people to understand how expansive and pervasive insiduous. The drug war is in people's everyday lives because even people never get arrested and never set foot in a detention center or a jail prison. They are impacted by drugs. Be It having to get public assistance. Housing Child Welfare Education. All these things are impacted and like this one in Interesting to me and you know earlier. We talked about the trump's that don't work or hurting us in this moment. I'm is how should Kobe? Nineteen shape our media and justice demand. That's a good question I mean. I think we've been using the moment of Kobe. Kobe nineteen to elevate the the demands that we've been making for you know it isn't as if we policy proposals or solutions that you see organizations putting four that's Organization of national level. Even those who work at the state level a level those putting forward in the ability our movement to mobilize really quickly. Because we've been saying this. All along is moment has allowed for asked to elevate those demands in elevate those ass in sort of in sort of show that it's really important that we remember the humanity and everyone in that. We have to do this together. And I think C. Brought up something that was really interesting about incremental. Ism It last August August September last September leadership conference issued a platform called vision for justice. You know how to shift the Public Safety Paradigm Right. A road map basically shifting in transforming the criminal legal system in changing the way that we think about public safety. And I think that Coleman nineteen is is You know sort of a window into how to rethink and reshape both our public health system public safety system and In our society as a whole that sort of Whether we're talking about how care whether we're talking about access to employment whether we're talking about education The real whether we're talking about the criminal legal system the inequities that exist throughout our society are interrelated Internet. And this is really a moment I think for us to rethink and re choose wisely about how we invest in those systems that will create a society. That is better for everyone society as safer for everyone because even just that those individuals had drug offenses. They also had undermined health conditions. They also had pre existing conditions that made them particularly vulnerable to do this virus and the fact that the prison in and out of his officer. is not hygiene place in right. It is lacking on on a multitude of ways. I hope that this moment really Allows people to think more expansively about the ways that we've often thought about criminal legal system and they are not just stuck an incremental ism but they push for something more something greater and we all put my political the political whims of any one individual or anyone party dictate how we treat human beings had what's really really really important in frankly. The federal government is far behind. What many states are doing currently what they've done in the past and it really begs the question if there are individuals in Congress they are A. Usa's who worked for a bar a bar making the case that people are better off being imprisoned in this moment they are going to home confinement or than they are being released because they are elderly or released because they have a under lying health condition in are eligible for compassionate release. Like all of those things really really really in this moment Indian everyone. Everyone should be an agreement about releasing as many people as possible to make everyone more safe. Right it's a make our society safer. Cj what you think about media because what's interesting is that media has blame. You know you guys have made the problem too and so it's like how do we? What is media's role in the nineteen getting the truth but I also think it's I I'll let you have an opinion to prisons in jails are just in general. I'd say Kovin nineteen media in response to justice reform. Sure what what I think is interesting. And what what what has I reporter hat. Would I be really interested to see is when this starts to subside? You know we're GONNA see all these local district attorneys and prosecutors least like in San Francisco and Philadelphia who made a choice and said okay. You know we're just not going to all these lies and we're GonNa do what we can to empty out art. Our jails to a certain extent to reduce the jail population intake. Obviously an extraordinary sort of emergency situation. But you know we can if they do that. And there's not mass. You know societal unrest. If things you know everything doesn't turn into New York City in the warriors You are how are they? GonNa you know. I think defense attorneys and a lot of truth will be all say. Listen you're able to do this You know is there a reason to start arresting people and putting them in jail again if things can you know? Break Down like you've always said they. Would you know the police unions in New York City successfully the bail reform sort of gutted in New York State Based on a lot of a lot of fear mongering and what I thought were inaccurate portrayals of how the law was working You know if we see that we can not all these people in jail in prison without having rampant crime on the street and mass rape downs. I I think it might earliest. I would like to see a lot of media coverage and sort of debates about You know how far we should extend that and you know this you know sort of push the at least possibility that this may be away we can you know. Change the justice system We see that works in this situation. I want to thank you both for a such a fruitful conversation. I think we covered a lot in a little bit of time that we had. I think it's safe to say that we would love to have you back when we have a new conversations I want to thank the folks that are listening to this. Please feel free to reach out to debate. What suggestions or people that you think that we should interview on our fast. This moment is a an extraordinary moment. It is incredible in scope. I'm we will not be the same and I want to send heartfelt Heartfelt hug virtual social distancing how to our listeners to the folks that I'm Jay and Secure were with us today. we you know secure late. Something matters you really important to say is that our demands are the same demands that we've been having for a long time and I think it's also important to recognize. Is that there have been people working at the intersection of justice than autonomy for very long time and if those people had not been fighting those organizations had not been pushing. This could have been worse because we have done a lot. We have pushed a lot. We have created the message to create the containers for people to see deconcentration as the only step forward that could not have happened without organizations like resigning without organizations like the leadership conference have been pushing for decades trying to push back on the status quo. And so you know at the federal level you know. We don't always like what we ended up with when it came to the fair. Sentencing Act but we did get people out right and those are people that don't have to deal with covert nineteen right now And there are people who have fought for different ballot initiatives throughout the country in California. I'm in right now because we fought for those things and I think you know in New York City fought for the Rockefeller drug laws and there are people who are not in right now because of those things and so I think color change says until justices real. I'm is what is super important. And and what I would say is that we we have the tools to do the things that are necessary for this And in just a moment of scaling up And being rates and so I wanNA thank you for joining us again today. I WanNa think our listeners on drugs and stuff I'm again. This is Cassandra. Frederick Managing Director of Policy Advocacy and campaigns. At Joke House. You be well. Thanks again to C. J. Cassandra and secure for that. Incredible conversation you can find. Cj's really impactful reporting at reason dot com and to learn more about the work security does at the leadership conference on Civil and Human Rights Visit Civil Rights Dot Org for DPA's work specifically are pandemic response. You can visit drug policy dot Org Slash Cova. Nineteen O month. We'RE GOING TO BE FEATURING. Content centered around. 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Supreme Court rules on war memorial cross: Good news and bad news
"Really? Supreme court rules on war memorial good news and bad news. This is Dr Jim Dennison's daily article podcast for Friday, June twenty-first, two thousand nineteen the supreme court ruled yesterday that a forty foot World War One memorial cross can stay on public land. The concrete cross is located in the middle of a busy median strip and across from pawnshop in Bladensburg, Maryland. It was erected nearly a century ago when mothers in the community decided to build a memorial to honor their fallen sons when they ran out of money. The American Legion adopted the project by the nineteen thirties, a local park commission had taken over the memorial and its maintenance, the American humanist association. Challenged the placement of the cross contending that there is quote. No meaning to the Latin cross other than Christianity close quote a federal appeals court. Agreed declaring that its placement on public land violated the constitution's ban on the establishment of. Religion, the American Legion countered that if the cross had to be moved so to the crosses that served as war memorials writing for the seven to two majority Justice Samuel Alito called the cross, quote a prominent community landmark in stated that its removal would be seen not as a neutral act. But as the manifestation of hostility toward religion that has no place in our establishment, clause traditions, Justice Alito argued that the Maryland cross had essentially become secular. He invoked the history of World War, One memorials noting that many of the rows of crosses and stars of David at cemeteries that memorialize those who died in that war in his review. These memorials have been established as a way to honor the dead. I'm grateful that a majority of supreme court justices do not want to begin removing crosses from war memorials all across the country, but I'm less grateful for their reasoning. These crosses have become so irreligious. In symbolic importance that they are no longer statements of religious conviction as such. They do not violate the separation of church and state, so our culture has become so secularized at the cross a direct reminder of our savior's death for mankind in an essential symbol of the Christian faith, it self become secularized the secularization of American society is not just one moral problem, we face, it is the moral problem, we face every other moral issue of our days. Manifestation of this one writing for the cut Sarah Miller, describes her four abortions, call in her last the best abortion, ever. She writes, graphically in profane terms about the Indian of human life as if it were simply somewhat distressful medical procedure. The New York Times tells us in nineteen seventy seven that forty three percent of Americans believed lesbian and gay, sex should be legal while forty three percent believed. It should be legal today. Eighty three percent say such relationships should be legal in nineteen ninety six twenty seven percent of Americans supported same sex marriage this year sixty three percent. Do we could discuss the rising popularity of euthanasia that Klein in church membership in any other moral or spiritual issue face? They all have at their heart. The marginalization of faith in secularize of culture when God is a hobby in the Bible's merely a diary of religious opinion. We are free to believe what we want and do what we want in essence. We believe Satan's lie that we can be like, God as it says, in Genesis three five yesterday, we discussed our responsibility to share what we know with those who do not know it today will focus on the compassionate motivates us to be such culture, changing, Christians, Paul described, the gentile culture of his day, quote, their darkened in their understanding alienated from the life of God, because of the ignorance that is in them due to the. Their hardness of harp. They've become callous have given themselves up to sensuality greedy to practice every kind of impurity as it says in Fiji's for eighteen through nineteen could you say the same about today's society? Here's my point unite were in precisely the same condition before our salvation in Christ. If you became a Christian as a child or have been a believer for a long while you probably don't have a frame of reference for what it's like to be a non believer today. The lost culture has changed significantly since you came to faith challenges exist today that you never had to confront you may not remember what it was like to hope would go to heaven when you died, but have no certainty that you would to live without the conforming empowering presence of the Holy Spirit in your life to make decisions without divine direction to face crises in pain, without your father's compassion, and grace to do life, without the affirming community, fellow believers. This is the daily. Experience of every person, you know, who does not know Jesus personally, John MacArthur said, Satan continues his efforts to make sin less offensive heaven, less appealing in hell less horrific in the gospel, less urgent our enemy uses the lies of secularization to keep God's people on the sidelines when we should be in the fight sharing our faith with our words in lives is not imposing spirituality on a secular society. This sharing the only antidote to the disease that is killing every person on earth. It is often the only pathway to attornal life in heaven and the abundant life on earth. Someone was compassionate enough to share this pathway with you. How will you pay your debt forward today? No, I'm excited about the response we've had to our YouTube series biblical insight to tough questions if you haven't checked it out yet. Please do. Our question this week is can we still believe in miracles, please visit YouTube dot com? Backslash innocent forum. 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Thursday, May 21, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Monitor daily. Podcast Thursday may twenty first. Thanks for joining us. I'm mark and I'm Noel Swan. Even the very wise cannot see all ends Gandalf told Frodo in the fellowship of the ring at this moment the tendency to predict the future can be overwhelming. News is dominated by questions of when the pandemic will end. What course it will take and what will change. We hear the world will never be the same again from energy use to office spaces to education. Undoubtedly there will be change but in his article. I predict your predictions are wrong. The Atlantic's Yasha monk notes. How resilient humanity is change is a powerful force but so is continuity and when it comes to predicting the path of the Corona Virus The New York Times Nicholas Kristof notes. That non experts are supremely confident in their predictions while epidemiologists. Keep telling me that they don't really know much at all. The point is not to alarm but as Mr Christopher says it is to start with humility each moment presents an opportunity to put aside fears and be guided by reason wisdom and humanity that brings its own kind of certainty. Humanity will survive. This pandemic writes Mr Monk in its aftermath. As after so many other disasters we will learn to thrive now onto today's stories. I as all fifty states begin reopening this week leaders are weighing tough questions that goes to the core of the different values. Americans hold dear in California and across the country pressure is on to reopen expressed in lawsuits and protests over at all looms an election in November. No fewer than a dozen suits have been filed against California and Governor Gavin newsom by gun shops churches businesses. And even a bride to be this week Kovic. Nineteen deaths topped ninety. Three thousand in the United States far more than the fifty eight thousand plus Americans who died in the Vietnam war marginalized and vulnerable populations are bearing the brunt at the same time isolation and joblessness have their own costs among them. Mental Health Children's welfare and financial ruin unemployment stands at fourteen point seven percent the highest rate since the Great Depression. The pandemic could lead to seventy five thousand additional deaths of despair. According to well being trust wellness experts regret that public health and the economy are being pitted against each other the two are inextricably connected and support each other. They say the question should be. How do we prevent the most number of people from dying from anything? Period says Benjamin Miller Chief Strategy Officer of Wellbeing Trust. The story was reported by Francine Keefer in Pasadena California for the Monitor couldn't agricultural crisis change. How many Italians view migrants? It might at least open a window. To begin to address a deep seeded. Distrust Italy has long been at the heart of Europe's debates over migration and has been markedly hostile to migrants in recent years but that stance has been challenged amid the coronavirus pandemic the inability to get seasonal workers from eastern Europe during the crisis is threatening. Italy's cultural sector so the Italian government has decided to allow some of the estimated six hundred thousand irregular migrants working in the sector to legalize their status with a temporary residency to prevent crops from rotting in the fields. We need to consider this as a first step for broader cultural changes in our country says Paulo Pizatti of Oxfam Talia in the covid nineteen era. What is needed is that no one remains invisible but while the move is a significant step for Italy experts. Say that the underlying systemic problems that make cheap explainable labor necessary in Italian agriculture. Still need to be addressed. The real problem is that the attention is only on growers economic needs and that hides human beings who were used as farmworkers says one sociology researcher at University of Salerno. This story was reported by Dominique. So Gal in Basel Switzerland and GNC a Joni in Rome for the monitor seeing their graduation ceremonies. Simply evaporate culled. Seniors are disappointed but undeterred. They're finding other ways to commemorate their connections and their accomplishments. Senior Springs are typically packed with beloved traditions and emotional goodbyes as students. Prepare to launch into the so-called real world but with universities shuttered due to the coronavirus pandemic graduation ceremonies and commencement activities. Have been canceled postponed or moved online. Schools are doing their best to provide alternative ways to mark students achievements says Donovan Livingston and Assistant Dean at Wake Forest University. One thing that's been fascinating is to see that. Energy Universities are putting into creatively finding ways to celebrate their students. He says whether it's gathering notable alumni in getting them to show love and appreciation or hosting these virtual commencement ceremonies but for many grads it's not the pomp and circumstance they miss but the casual conversations conspiratorial whispers between classmates an accidental run INS on the quad. I realize it's really easy to keep in touch with friends who you know super well says Julia Penny a senior at the town university in Washington. Dc at the casual friends who really bring a lot of joy to life. That's really hard to replicate Bai Xue. This story was reported by Lindsey McGuinness for the Monitor. This peripatetic travel writer. Spending Ramadan isolated in her New York. Apartment has offered unexpected lessons in gratitude a year ago monitors correspondent. Sara Khan welcomed the month of Ramadan by following the scent of charge. Me Wafting through the damp tropical air of Zanzibar one evening. She joined the maze of local snaking through an open. Air Market. The ton or call to prayer rang out from nearby mosques as families drifted from stall to stall cobbling together and if tire meal to break the fast soul warming bowls of Royal Zanzibar pizzas. Cups of freshly pressed sugarcane juice this year mosques stand eerily empty and decadent iftars in Zanzibar are a faint memory like else Sarah has spent the last few months adjusting to a bizarre new normal gone or the thrills of exploring a seemingly limitless world replaced by the monotony of circling every corner of her fairy finite New York apartment yet. Even under these circumstances she marvels at the unlikely sense of community. That's emerged people messaging her out of the blue socially distant walks in the park with masked friends and care packages arriving every day. Weeks in solitude have had a meditative effect giving Sarah stretches of time to contemplate her blessings including all the memories that have made up her Ramadan's past. This story was reported by Sarah Khan in New York for the Monitor. You can find her full first person account in today's issue around the US and the world people are finding cozy comfort in a decades old idea. The drive in movie on a recent Saturday night vehicles spread out among three screens at the rustic try view drive. In in North Smithfield Rhode Island. Flatbed trucks transform into sleeping bag for for kids in pajamas and attendees discover that face masks argh impervious to the tantalizing smell of fried dough. First TIMERS JILL AND BILL. Harris brought their three children to see pictures on word. We can sit outside and talk if we want to says Miss Harris. You really can't do that in the theater. The drive in a medium that has waned since its heyday. Decades ago is suddenly at the forefront of pop culture again beyond the nostalgic ler of movies under the stars. Innovators are looking toward the drive. In model as way to experience live events now that people can no longer stand elbow to elbow at least temporarily. Audiences may end up in front vast screens for concerts sports and even theater where theater people. We're creative people says Michael Duran producing artistic director of bt stage. We should be able to figure out a way to bring theater to the people and still be able to stay safe. This story was reported by. Stephen Humphries in North Smithfield Rhode Island and Milford Massachusetts for the Monitor Now commentary on government reform among African countries from the monitors. A to`real board across Africa long-delayed reforms and governance are suddenly on the table. Both challenge of the pandemic and the prospect of the continent's first recession. In over twenty. Five years have put leaders on notice even before the coronavirus crisis is over. Civic activists and international creditors are demanding deep reforms in badly managed regimes in South Africa. This desire for structural change was echoed in a speech by President Cyril Ramaphosa who also serves as the head of the fifty three nation African Union. We are resolved not merely to return our economy to where it was before the corona virus but to forge a new economy in a new global reality. The virus crisis is liberating many Africans to demand greater resilience. In their societies. There is no shortage of ideas from civil society and financial institutions about how to build a stronger post pandemic economy as Africans. We are used to being and innovative often driven by necessity and we do have an indefatigable capacity to stand on our own feet rights allow to executive director of Good Governance Africa with the corona virus exposing weak governance in Africa. It's people are also tapping their strength to fix it. That's a wrap for the news can find the full length versions of these stories states issue or at C. S. monitor dot com slash daily. Thank you for joining us today. Please come back tomorrow when our Sarah Miller? Yana looks at how past crises? Not Challenges but also change and fresh hopes and what this crisis might bring. Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective contributor shares. How leading God's limitless love fill? Her thoughts uplifted her viewpoint in powerful ways that also brought you can find the column in today's issue or CS MONITOR DOT com slash. Want to give a quick thanks to our staff including today's Audio Production Team Jessica Mendoza and Jeff Turkey. This podcast is produced by the Christian. Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.
"<music> welcome to the monitor daily podcast. It's friday august thirtieth. Thanks for joining us. I'm linda feldman and i know robertson with hurricane dorian barreling toward florida. We're seeing predictable. News coverage long lines at grocery just restores from miami to jacksonville political leaders urging residents to stay out of harm's way emergency responders preparing for the onslaught floridians are battle-tested when it comes to hurricanes and some even embraced the challenge in the spirit of the old saying out of crisis comes opportunity aw in lake worth beach florida who leon concepcion has started a business called tribal cocos in which he'll climb your coconut tree and cut off off the coconuts before the high winds turn them into projectiles. It's just me a machete and sometimes a rope. Mr concepcion told w._p._a. Elects alexis t._v. Those who can't afford to pay he adds won't be charged. Neighbor helping neighbor is a constant during hurricane season from from hanging storm shutters to delivering food and water to underserved communities after a storm passes. Some neighborhoods have a big cookout because because why not after a power outage some food that has gone unrefrigerated must be eaten right away or get thrown out. We're also reminded of of monitor writer patrick johnson story out of coastal north carolina last year after hurricane florence struck their neighbors put aside differences <music> over politics and global warming to find a solution to chronic flooding heading into the holiday weekend. We wish florida well and now to our five stories our first story many people increasingly increasingly see environmental crises like the fires in the amazon as global concerns but how can remote actors like the e._u. Make a difference especially when regional players seem uninterested. The european union is a world away from the amazon rainforest but when brazilian president jaya bolsonaro sarah responded to the fires ravaging the amazon with a seemingly blase attitude you officials made it their business to force him to act for the block. Doc environmental crises are not regional issues but global ones and the e._u. Is testing new tactics to foment action especially via the use of its massive trade clout to send a clear message to mr bolsonaro french. President emmanuel macron threatened to block the mercusor trade agreement between win the e._u. In south america's common market the deal took two decades to complete and still faces several hurdles. The pressure produced results. Mr boston has now deployed the army to tackle the flames and banned land clearing fires for sixty days at a minimum. Mr. macron surprised move succeeded cheated in creating a well warranted sense of urgency environment and trade are actually two sides of the same coin says climate policy analyst in its tessler sustainable use of resources is key and needs to be at the heart of such an important trade agreement. This story was supported by dominique sogo in basel switzerland. Go for the monitor unintended consequences outside pressure from a major power. Our can upset the equilibrium of low conflict that could explain why israel and iran are ratcheting up the pressure on each other israel so in iran or avowed enemies but despite the often bellicose utterances of their leaders the consensus among analysts has long been that neither side really wants swore the same has been said the lebanese militia hezbollah one of iran's main allies in the region despite more than two hundred israeli air strikes against iranian or hezbollah targets in syria in recent years most with minimal iranian response a strategic balance has prevailed but as u._s. pressure on iran has intensified so too has iran deepened its ties to and reliance on its allied militias its goal to increase its own strategic death and its deterrence against israeli and u._s. Military action accordingly israel's cross-regional strikes starting being with july nineteenth bombing of iran backed shiite. Militia base in iraq are designed to prevent the growth of what israeli officials call iran's war machine in syria. Korea iran is trying to build an effective deterrence against israelis in lebanon in syria. This is the main part and to a much lesser extent in iraq. Iraq says nassar hobby in a political scientists at tehran university so naturally. It's very clear that what israel wants is to prevent that this. The story was supported by scott peterson london for the monitor theresa jon pierre koi quoi might have been an unlikely attorney for michael drake. A white man accused of killing an unarmed black man. The lawyer says she did it to uphold the principle that the justice for all makes the system fairer for all tampa attorney teresa john pure koi knew she criticized for helping defend michael michael drako. She is an african american and her client was a white man accused of fatally shooting a black man and parking lot argument. She did it anyway. She says on grounds of principle upholding equal treatment for all is the only way to advance the rule of law for all. It's about making sure sure the government makes their case says miss jean pierre koi last week florida jury found mr drake guilty of manslaughter in the killing of marquees mcglockton outside a convenience store in clearwater florida. The case was racially fraught from the beginning but the guilty verdict and the recent firing of the new york policemen who's chokehold contributed to the death of eric garner are signs of hope in the fight against racial disparities and legal system say experts should miss jean-pierre. John peer koi have helped mister drako. She was surprised by critical pushback from some african american attorneys who she felt should know better some legal ethicists assists sided with her. We always want to win a fair fight rather than an unfair. One says louis ferrelli the third a stetson university law professor. This story was reported by patrick johnson and savannah georgia the monitor aw cities are built for people but should they be welcoming for wildlife to animals are making a home for themselves and adapting to urban life raising questions. It's about human wildlife symbiosis peeking out from behind a willie nelson sleeve in the window of a record store in toronto a raccoon surprise some some passersby earlier this summer and it's not alone animals are popping up everywhere in cities and that has engendered questions and ambivalence flints about the distinctions between human spaces and the wild some human urbanites love the wildlife and see it as something to protect but others. There's are more concerned for themselves or their pets and property encounters can be unnerving especially as the blurring of the human wild boundary has left its mark on animals animals in toronto. The raccoons have learned how to knock over compo spins to get around. Raccoon resistant locks that the city spent millions of dollars installing coyotes. There are also becoming non too loud noises. Humans make scare them off when they move into the city they live kind of like we do says susann mcdonald a psychology professor at york university and an authority on raccoon behavior so you know high density they get along. They wouldn't in the country be junk. This story was reported by sarah miller yana in toronto for the monitor that was mitch hyder a world champion and historian of whistling from eugene oregon even and seemingly frivolous hobbies like whistling can become a source of passion at this international festival master whistler find joy and community in competition carol. Anne kaufman is on a mission to bring recognition and respect to whistling as a musical art form warm the whistling diva as she is known found her calling in two thousand fourteen when the international whistlers convention dissolved she threw herself into its three establishment today her by ennio masters of musical whistling festival and competition draws dozens of competitive whistler is from around the world whistling changed my life. She says about turning her hobby into a competitive passion. More than sixty contestants from eleven countries gathered outside of los los angeles last weekend divide the world title. Several contestants talked about being discouraged from whistling child. Eric of all crans says she whistles source for the levity. It gives her no matter how she's feeling. She has been delighted to find a community who feels the same way. Usually i'm the only one incessantly definitely whistling everywhere. She says this is like a whole new world for me. The story was reported by francine kiefer and pasadena california for the monitor auditor. Now commentary on britain's brexit brawl from the monitor's editorial oriole board in britain already divided over brexit a new prime minister boris johnson has decided to shorten the time for parliament to consider or an alternative to his path to leaving the european union. His unusual tactic has created an uproar notably among those who lost the referendum on brexit in two thousand sixteen for them. The issue now is the prime minister's apparent assault on democracy itself for mr johnson in his opponents outrage and delay tactics are also an assault on democracy largely because the losing side in the referendum has yet to consent to the official outcome come for democracies facing sharp divisions and a decline entrusted institutions britain provides an example of the need for two things things after a vote with high stakes losers consent and winners restraint the real threat to democracy is not having enough of both at times like these patients reason and humility from both politicians and engaged citizens can sometimes open up unexpected avenues and lead to consensus democracy cannot survive if it produces oppressive winners and sore losers. It's very legitimacy starts with the idea that we're all in this together. That's that's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at c._s. Monitor dot com slash daily and just a quick reminder. We don't publish on monday labor day in the united states but do keep an eye out for a special email from us an exploration of the special challenges and triumphs seen by american workers. Today's christian science spiritual perspective perspective contributor turned to god for help when she grew concerned she might no longer have the strength to complete a smoky mountains hike with her daughter step by step the inspiration that god created us with dominion over fatigue and discouragement made all the difference. You confined the column in today's issue or at c._s. Monitor dot com slash daily. We want to give a quick. Thanks is to our staff including today's audio production team rebecca salon and jeff turn. This podcast is produced by the christian science monitor copyright twenty nineteen.
Ep. 231 - New legislation from AOC to protect small businesses
"We have a lot going on in the country right now and right under our noses. Mega corporations and the super rich are doing something dirty and underhanded that's ultimately going to hurt all of us on today's episode on a tell you what this underhanded thing is it conclude by telling you who is stepping up to stop it this is. Shaun King and you listening to the the break down the breakdown of a breakdown. Millions tens of millions of Americans are living in fear. Fear of contagion fear of meeting healthcare. That they can't access fear of mounting debts. Now fear of police brutality. The public is already at risk already. Taking a huge hit economically. People can't pay their rent. Small business owners can't pay their rent are struggling to pay. Their staff. People are struggling. The bills are piling up leaving both people and businesses more vulnerable than they've ever been before and in this chaos in this fear of course now thirty five million. Americans have filed for unemployment behind the scenes. Some of the most powerful interests in America are making a killing. Everybody is responding differently to the crisis. But there should be one thing. We can all agree on the last thing. We need right now. Is Major corporations swooping in take advantage of our vulnerability to enrich themselves and consolidate their power. But that's exactly what's happening and is going to keep happening until we actually do something about it. Let me break it down. For Britain bringing corporations all over the country are taking an unfair advantage of the corona virus crisis and cares at. They've already received massive ballots in supplemental funding out of the taxpayer's pocket. Out of your pocket. And now they're using that public money not to keep their doors open as the tax payers intended instead. They're using it to grow their company by cannibalizing other small companies. Yes they're using the money to pursue mergers and acquisitions big companies are killing in taking over small and medium sized companies. That could actually really use the public assistance just to make it through the crisis. Mergers mean monopolies. They meaning that one entity can take such complete control of an area of the market. That consumers end up having no other but to engage with that company. We can't shop around for deals because there's nobody else to shop with in this. Lack of competition has dire and direct consequences for all of us. The absence of competition causes real consequences for everyday people. It causes the loss of jobs it causes prices to creep higher and higher and higher in short these monopolies can pay workers less in charge more for their goods. Don't just think of this as an abstract problem for economist in lawmakers to worry about no this problem of mergers and acquisitions during a national crisis is a you and me problem. How do we know this? We know it because it's happened before in the past. Mega businesses have taken advantage of economic downturns in times of crisis to move quickly on mergers and acquisitions that ultimately let Wall Street make money hand over fist and hurt ordinary people who may find themselves out of work in paying higher prices as a result of these monopolies we can even put a number on the effect that monopolies have on the average family. It's five thousand dollars these mergers and acquisitions. Because that's the sanitized. Language that we use for big corporations swooping in and taking over smaller ones add up and the cost to the average family in the end so far is about five thousand dollars per year. How does this happen? Accompany snaps up. It's smaller competitors in suddenly has no need to keep prices low or to stay competitive after all. The competition is now gone and win. The competition is gone. There's no market pressure to stop the exploitation of both consumers and workers who are likely to see worse working conditions lower wages and even layoffs this issue of mergers and acquisitions is often brushed aside. Some niche concern that only a small amount of progressives really care about. But you know what they're really wrong. It turns out that a large majority of US actually agree on this issue. Seventy two percent of people favor banning corporations that get taxpayer bailouts from merging with or acquiring other companies. That's according to recent polling from data for progress and that was across the Board Republicans and Democrats alike but of all voters. Say No if you receive public money for bail out you should not be using that money to swoop up and buy in crush other companies in what we need is for Congress to put an end to this corporate over each expansion and abuse of legislation. The cares act was originally meant to help. Small and medium-sized businesses survive. Instead it's turned into yet another mechanism for big corporations to bulldoze the little guys consolidating more power and more wealth while the rest of us. Worry about how we're GONNA make it to the end of the week or the end of the month there in just a second. I want to tell you who has stepped up to fight back against these mergers and acquisitions in what their plan is but I a quick word from our sponsor listen millions and millions of us are stuck at home unable to be neely as active as we'd like to be and I need each of you to avoid. The complacency is important now more than ever to stay active and keep moving and you can work out and take classes even in the comfort of your own home with beach body on demand it's an easy to use streaming service that gives you instant access to over thirteen hundred super effective. Workouts is suited for anybody at any time in the secret to getting results is getting started. Our own senior producer of this episode of the Breakdown Willis and his wife joy have been using beach body on demand for years. They've used so many of the exercises including p ninety x and insanity but I want each of you to check it out. Try this service so that it can keep you healthy and keep you active in right now. Listeners can get a special free trial membership. When you text the word just one word. Break down to thirty thirty thirty text. The word break down to thirty thirty thirty and you will get full access to the entire platform for free. All the workouts. All the nutrition information support totally free again just tax break down to thirty thirty thirty and you'll get a special free trial of the beach body on demand system. Take it out Dan. Dan Dan so what we know. Is that the support of stopping these types of mergers and acquisitions is huge. It's bipartisan and Senator Elizabeth Warren and Congresswoman Alexandria Cossio. Cortes have a plan to stop these mergers and acquisitions they end the House Antitrust Subcommittee Chair Congressman David Cecil Lean a good guy half proposed banning mega-mergers for the duration of the corona virus crisis. These proposals apply to mega corporations and financial institutions. Only leaving small and medium-sized businesses. Free to do what they need to do. Survive during the current economic crisis this would ensure that taxpayer dollars go to propping up the economy overall not to corporate consolidation but lawmakers can actually do more in the next corona virus relief package. They should place a ban on mergers and acquisitions for the immediate future for any corporation with revenue over a hundred million dollars or any bank or Equity Fund with more than one hundred million dollars in capitalization that receives public money only businesses that have declared bankruptcy or would otherwise fail would allowed to participate according to this legislation in mergers or be acquired. If you WANNA know more I really want you to check out the appeal you can go now to the appeal dot org. Sarah Miller the executive director of the American Economic Liberties Project wrote an article in the appeal. Talking about what a temporary merger ban looks like in why we need one in why it matters to everyday people. I know right now that it's hard to pay attention to things that seem like they don't really matter in the immediate sense of life and death. Were all trying to stay alive. We're all trying to feed our families in right now. Being lucky means juggling work confinement and health and family and loneliness but it's also a reason for vigilants. We cannot allow corporate interest to rob US blind while we're distracted by very real concerns. And what I see is that we can't rely on federal agencies to protect US EITHER. In the midst of this crisis our agencies are just not well positioned to evaluate proposed mergers and acquisitions but corporations can't be allowed to run roughshod. Now is the time to be angry about how corporate America is handling the corona virus crisis. I'm frustrated about it because these big corporations could actually be helping. They could be sending out personal protective gear or sending support to the front lines instead. They're looking for ways to take advantage of the corona virus crisis in the cares act in. They're not acting in our best interest. Amazing as they are. We need more than Senator Warren Congresswoman Cossio Cortes fighting for this. That's where you come in. We need you to step up. Call Your lawmakers. Entail them to support this new bill. Tell them that they need to ban mega and the creation of additional monopolies. That come at the expense of small and medium-sized businesses. Not to mention tax payers in consumer statue again all the way back to the beginning of this episode these types of mergers and acquisitions end up costing the average American family over five thousand dollars a year of spending power. So now you know it's up to you. It's up to us to do something about this amidst so many pressing demands on our attention in causes for concern. It's easy to let problems that seem less immediate slip through the cracks. And I get it. You know me you know. I'm fighting for families. That are being brutalized. That are being shot or beaten by police people who are suffering in jails and prisons but this macro issue of what's happening in our economy actually affects everyday people but corporate bad behavior. Just can't be one of the things that we let slip through the cracks or will soon our selves not only combatting a public health crisis. But we'll soon find ourselves fighting an escalating an entirely preventable economic hardship. That's going to outlast. This pandemic bring the bring them and bring the bring the break down.
Thursday, December 3, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"The monitor daily podcast. It's thursday december third. Thanks for joining us. I'm by contracting roberts. What did the moose cross the road because it was finally safe to get to the other side last month. A video posted on facebook by the utah. Division of wildlife resources depicting just that caught the attention of hundreds of thousands of viewers. The compilation of clips showed moose deer. Cody's fox's bears squirrels and even porcupines ambling on a bridge crossing over the six-lane interstate eighty in park city utah. That bridge is part of a growing number of overpasses and underpasses around the world built expressly for wildlife to be able to cross safely. There are bridges like the one in utah tunnels for turtles underpasses to reunite elephant herds and now in india. Ah bamboo jute and grasses suspension bridge designed for reptiles such wildlife crossings. Don't just benefit. The animals people can also be injured or killed by car crashes involving wildlife but when safe passage is constructed for the animals. Such accidents are reduced by a five to ninety five percent. According to a national geographic report last year as more of these wildlife crossings are built around the globe. They also mark a shift in how humans relate to wild spaces rather than further dividing animals habitats. This construction honors the interconnectedness of the natural world as stuart pimm chair of conservation of duke. University told national geographic in two thousand eighteen about life quarter in brazil. It's healing tear in the forest now. Today's stories our first story. If education is the foundation of a functioning society. how should it be prioritized in a pandemic. The us in germany offer a tale of two approaches pointing to the influence of culture on decision making decisions whether to open or close schools like so much else during the pandemic or a moving target yet. As case counts rise to significant levels across europe and north america. Many districts in the united states have done the opposite of europe if get children away from their classrooms even as non essential businesses have been open for months and europe where positivity rates in some countries exceed the three percent threshold. That recently sent a new york city students home bars. Indoor dining and other non essential businesses have been re shuttered to safeguard schools cultural values in the us that emphasize freedom in individual choice above all else have under girded decisions to open or close school. In europe and canada the cost of rising inequality and a desire to keep social safety nets firmly in place have prompted authorities to employ society to do its job by forgoing non-essential activities to keep schools open says andrea slasher director for education and skills at the organization for economic cooperation and development in paris during a crisis. You have to ask yourself what is really important on the question around reopening do you open cinemas i schools. These are values questions. Society's need to make trade offs between the present and the future and they do that very differently. The story was reported by sarah miller. Yana and lenora chew and toronto and berlin for the monitor security vigilance is relentless pursuit. That is mentally draining. Did iran's ears long state of alert against israeli and american infiltration lead to complacency and vulnerabilities the assassination outside iran. Last week of the scientists reputed to be the father of iran's nuclear program as exposed deep vulnerabilities in iran security and intelligence. But it's just the latest in a chain of breaches and august is really operatives. Theron gunned down al qaeda's second in command abdulah abdulah a mastermind of the nineteen ninety eight attacks on us. Embassies in africa reportedly at the behest of the united states in july amid a summer of unexplained explosions across iran a mysterious fire damaged iran's uranium enrichment facility at natanz amid internal iranian pointing that has followed the attack on the scientists analysts say iran's intelligence apparatus often appears to be looking for threats in the wrong place. The assassination came as a shock. Not because they didn't expect it but exactly because they did expect and prepare for. It says masan bay barabash. A researcher and former intelligence analyst for iran says of. Sean asked the var an expert at the naval postgraduate school in monterey california. The truth of the matter is that there are people inside the regime that are likely leaking this information. They've got a leaky ship. And i think that's the stereo issue for them because there's no clean way to deal with that. This story was supported by scott peterson in london. For the monitor president. Elect joe biden is promising. The world renewed american leadership but first he has to convince citizens at home that an active. Us foreign policy is in their interests. America is back president. Elect joe biden's message to the world has been clear but making it happen could prove easier said than done one. Early challenge will serve as a signal. What will washington do to distribute promising us and european vaccines in developing countries amid concerted drives by two strategic rivals china and russia to promote vaccines of their own. It's response will be a first step towards the incoming broader am to reclaim the broad and multifaceted leadership role that the us built in decades following would were too but that will mean healing growing rift at home. The one between us administration's foreign policy both republican and democrat and the huge numbers of american voters. Who see such policy as a waste of money off. And a waste of lives and the distraction from dealing with domestic priorities. Mr biden will have to make the case. That american leadership abroad is valuable. Not just for the world. But for americans is well only event will. He have democratic support for an active foreign policy. This story was reported by ned. Ten in london for the monitor social media was once hailed as a great democratizing force. But in an era of disinformation and the growth of hate groups. There has been a shift in thought from both liberals and conservatives. What is the civic responsibility of companies like facebook and twitter president donald trump and president elect joe biden have found common ground on at least one issue both want to repeal a once obscure federal law that has shielded internet companies from being held liable for the information users. Post as two thirty becomes a political. Buzzword a bipartisan chorus of critics says the industry has become too powerful as its algorithms shape the flow of information but behind. This debate are deeper questions about the evolving nature of free speech online. That date back to the early optimism that once held the internet as a democratizing force. Fostering human liberty president trump and other republicans believe social media companies have censored conservative views and many are outraged at twitter's and facebook's warning labels on the president's posts about voter fraud president-elect biden and been liberals however believed these companies have not done enough to battle misinformation and the kind of abusive speech common online as a result both sides are seeking rain in the legal immunity section two-thirty offers online services says mary ann franks at the university of miami law school. These companies don't have to bear the brunt of the abuse and the harassment and the misinformation continues to flow from their platforms. This story was supported by harry buick. S and new york. For the monitor is the history of hollywood's golden age timely for today mang a possible oscar contender about one of the screenwriters of citizen kane is at. It's most enjoyable. When it explores the people behind the tinsel out our peter raynor's review in today's issue or at cs monitor dot com slash daily. Now commentary on historical comparisons to the pandemic from the monitor's aditorial board the covid. Nineteen pandemic is the first global crisis since world war two since march. It is pushing each nation to largely struggle alone like that horrific conflict eight decades ago. It has left humanity to question whether progress itself is still possible wars plagues natural disasters. They often numb the capacity to perceive the good at hand after world war two that destructive negatively did not prevail appoint to recall as the end of the pandemic appears in sight with new vaccines. The war's victors made a strategic decision to prevent future wars by lifting up the most vulnerable people starting with vanquished former enemies. Those leaders created global institutions built on universal values. They directed massive resources toward those most at risk of poverty and despotism because of their wide and caring embrace of the least well off progress did return. The world is now at a similar inflection. Point with serious doubts about progress yet once again leaders are countering those doubts with a concern for the well being of all that which led to pass progress will sustain it. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length versions of these stories in today's issue or at sea as monitor dot com slash daily. Thanks for joining us. Come back tomorrow. We'll look at how the potential for trump candidacy in two thousand twenty four might shape republican politics for the next four years advertisements. Social media feeds comments from neighbors and other noise come out today from all directions but today's christian science spiritual perspective calmest thinks the most powerful and healing voice is the christ god's ubiquitous message of and care you can find the column in today's issue or cs monitor dot com slash. Dave you wanna give a quick thanks to our staff including today's audio production team. Jeff turton ebrahim echo and no roberts and burn this. Podcast is produced by the christian. Science monitor copyright twenty twenty.
Monday, October 21, 2019 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Monitor daily podcast. It's Monday October twenty first thanks for joining us I'm Mark Trumbull and I'm Molly Jackson. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science Monitor Copyright Twenty nineteen employees of the Kurdish autonomous administration. There's a destination northern Iraq after meeting last week with Turkish stories about a time of cultural revival in Mexico our first story nations leading pharmaceutical distributors alleging illegal promotion of opioids by the companies for these two counties so at stake is relief for people in more struggling communities like Cleveland but as the Monitor both heavily affected by opioid abuse the two hundred sixty million dollar settlement means they will get much-needed money to help treat addiction Oh awaits another case by some measures even forty eight billion would be a drop in the bucket in a report this year highlighted in a story this spring it's also about accountability many plaintiffs say courtroom trials could give a full airing the venue for a sweeping forty eight billion dollar settlement encompassing that whole legion of lawsuits that possibility now ending Bhai counties cities states and tribes against corporations whose marketing and distribution of these pain relief drugs may have played two alleged illegal promotion efforts that put profits above responsibility with addictive drugs now to our unprecedented degree of self governance and the unique opportunity to exercise cultural rights long denied by the Syrian regime those dreams seem lost words America's former allies in the fight against Islamic state see the US withdrawal which opened the door to Turkey's assault as a betrayal the truce made five stories we explain the latest on Brexit in plain British and equestrian statue re purposed and to outgunned by Turkey and feeling betrayed by president trump where do serious Kurds go from here for one an and prevent further deaths it's about rehabilitation and getting people straight said Michael See o'malley Cuyahoga County a prosecutor for the United States this outcome postpones a larger reckoning some twenty six hundred lawsuits are no difference before the US pullout ordered by President Donald trump the Kurds controlled nearly a third of inhabited Syria there they enjoyed it a significant role in a nationwide crisis in the lead up to this Ohio trial for a time it looked possible that it could become as an operations so that Kurdish fighters could withdraw from this trip of Syrian territory the Turkey was invading to create a long saw buffer zone but the Kerr White House economists said the OPIOID crisis cost the US economy five hundred four billion dollars in twenty fifteen alone President Recep Tayyip aired Awan Vice President Mike Pence said he had negotiated a ceasefire agreement for northern Syria Turkey presented it instead as a pause backed militias America stabbed the Kurdish people in the back the Kurdish people who lost eleven thousand fighters on the frontlines against the Islamic state and the ceasefire deal is betrayal and legal tire says cloth whose sister the Syrian Kurdish politician was murdered by of democracy freedom equality and humanity in defense of all the people of the world he says this story was reported Monique's ago in Bern Switzerland and commercially Syria for the Monitor exit is once again nearing a critical stage and getting a deal across the finish line seems just as muddled a process as ever who of our British staffers and one curious American staffer Hash it all out in a group chat you can read it in today's issue or about confederate statues on its head by appropriating and re imagining the classic Wartime Statue Kahinda Wiley once Virginia America's grandest and most famous amish the confederacy the writer on horseback wistfully turns on his mount. The twenty-seven foot is to glorify the freedom and dignity that slavery tried to stamp out the statue of oaks the spirit of Monument Avenue in Richmond run sculpture is monumental except the writer is a young black man with braided hair nike shoes and a hoodie This ed CS monitor dot com slash daily a famous artist is turning the debate placement speaks to how deeply changes taking root this statue in the heart of the former confederacy says a university of Richmond professor giving a new twist to the national conversation about confederate statuary the statute is expressly ironic but there is no tongue in cheek and it's called viewer to reconsider what is her roic and what is worth fighting for it's title speaks to changing times and the qualities needed to persevere and story was reported by Harry Ruinous New York for the Monitor what does it mean to be Mexican is rumors of war the statue by President Barack Obama's official portraitist that will move to Richmond in December for the moment it is in New York is speaking back and saying the terror that you represent is now being reimagined as the possibility of the founding of new nation this empire for Spain fewer still know that this year marks the five hundred anniversary of his arrival on Mexican soil today Mexican five hundred years after the Spanish conquest and now with a populist president the answer is complex but also proud has portrayed his country's southern neighbour as a crime ridden nation pushing unauthorized migrants north but those challenges and humiliations has sparked renewed sense of Mexican patriotism and nationalism just as Mexicans have elected their most populist leftist president and decades fever who struggle is no longer in opposition to European conquerors the new foes are globalization neoliberalism and US President Donald Trump who this story was reported by Sarah Miller Yana in Mexico City for the Monitor on the eve of Mexico's Independence Day people rest on benches outside a church in the capital snuck in on tacos and to Paci a fermented pre emergence of an ancient ballgame and it's resonance for National Identity One evening in Mexico City Young People's Geico has always implied a search for identity in a country that defines
The Christian Science Monitor Daily Friday, March 29, 2019
"Welcome to the monitor daily podcast. It's Friday March twenty nine. Thanks for joining us. I'm Peter Greer. And I'm Molly Jackson. The international baccalaureate is an educational program originally designed to provide college prep for young people whose parents worked in diplomacy and multilateral organizations. Over decades, it's grown into a network of some five thousand schools in one hundred fifty three countries offering learning Menton develop students who care about working towards a peaceful world fi intercultural understanding and personal respect. My youngest son is a proud earner of an IB high school diploma. Given this it surprising that I be students in the Washington area are having their own metoo moment. But perhaps the way they've tried to handle it shouldn't be. Eighteen girls in the Bethesda Chevy. Chase high school IB program in Maryland learned that male fellow IB students had ranked them based on looks with numbers down to hundreds of appoint according to the Washington Post. The girls felt violated. These were boys. They thought were friends long story short. They pushed the administration to hold the list, creators accountable. The school organized a meeting of all IB students during which girl stood up and recounted their feelings about the list. And there are many other experiences with harassment and objectification. The boy who primarily created the listed up apologized. He said it wasn't meant to circulate. He said when you have a culture were talking about how women look is normal making a list didn't seem like a terrible thing to do. One of the girls. Had it wasn't the boy who was the outlier in this situation. The outliers where though who spoke up that culture needs to change. She said. Now to our stories which deal with the possibilities of small by progress on healthcare the electoral affect of corruption in Ukraine, and how eating vegan became a billion dollar business. Our first story does international law matter, President Trump's recognition of Isreaeli sovereignty over the Golan Heights was both lauded and panned politically. But the question of legal precedent is a deeper one. In nineteen sixty seven Israel captured the Golan Heights from Syria on Monday to a predictable mix of political praise and criticism. President Donald Trump signed a declaration recognising Isreaeli sovereignty over the strategic plateau the move reverberated as a precedent setting departure from long established US policy as the leader of postwar international order, if the liberal hegemony says we're going to disregard the rule of law that we have led and protected since World War Two it sanctions others to do. The same says Edward Goldberg and assistant professor at New York University, the Golan Heights may seem like a little thing he adds, but we may look back on this as one of the historical straws that can break. The camel's back said William Burns, a former deputy secretary of state and former US ambassador to Russia international law gets pilloried sometimes, but an important principle is that. Territorial questions like this have to be south peacefully through negotiations. This kind of decision is going to get used by the lead. Amir Putin's in the world to say what's wrong with the annexation of Crimea. The story was reported by Howard the Frankie in Washington for the monitor. White House this week vowed to revive its past priority of nullifying ObamaCare this time fire the courts, but Republican lawmakers see targeted fixes as a more viable path to progress. Two years ago when you're controlled congress and the White House they couldn't agree on a replacement for the Affordable Care Act this week President Trump again put repeal ObamaCare back on the table. He declared that Republicans will be the party of healthcare that may be a savvy campaign slogan for the twenty twenty presidential election. But there's no replacement plan yet and Republican lawmakers have no appetite for another bruising party battle over what might replace ObamaCare. Re-litigating past policy battles is a mistake said Representative Mark meadows of North Carolina, a close ally of the president and member of the conservative freedom caucus. Some Republican lawmakers are looking to address specific flaws in the US healthcare system. Senator Susan Collins of Maine, for example, is working on by partisan solutions to lower the cost of prescription drugs. That's a potential issue that I think could unite the administration, Democrats and Republicans Senator Collins says a prescription drugs that is not however in any way abroad substitute for the Affordable Care Act. This story was reported by Francine Keefer in Washington for the monitor. With thirty nine candidates for president Ukrainians are far from United their visions for the nation's political future. But one end goal is top of mind for most voters ending the nation's endemic corruption. Five years since Ukraine's mud on revolution. Brought thousands of people out onto the streets with the hopes of turning the country westward activists. Journalists under four minded politicians have been fighting a continuous uphill battle against corruption. And while they have had some successes. It remains a key issue ahead of Sunday's presidential election. Public procurement and state registers are increasing the accessible to the public via the internet increasing transparency automatic value added tax refunds have helped close exploited tax loopholes and the establishment of anti-corruption agencies have all been important steps backed by western partners and the International Monetary Fund. And journalists have been able to hold even the powerful to account. One of the most talked about recent pieces of journalism is an investigation into corruption at a state owned defense giant the reports forced the president to dismiss an ally of his tied to the affair. The first results are really astonishing says eager kofsky of the institute for economic research and policy consulting. But at the same time these results are to be seriously defended and they have to be developed. This story was reported by Lydia. Tom cue in Kip Ukraine for the monitor. Meek consumption continues to grow worldwide. But so does the number of people considering carefully the ethics of eating any product derived from animals Geordie Brown, a twenty seven year old Canadian actor adopted a vegan lifestyle after his annual January health kick for Mr Brown. It started as a two week challenge. Then it turned into four weeks. And now it's been two years. I can't really justify a reason to go back. He says I have tons of energy. There has been no food that I was missing. So I have never turned back. The is more mainstream than it ever has been with more. People particularly millennials adopting a vegan lifestyle for their own wellness, the wellness of the environment and the wellness of animals, you don't need to store your grill in the garage. Just yet. Meat consumption continues to grow especially in emerging economies like China and strict vegans still comprise a fraction of the population in rich countries, just two point three percent and Canada and three percent in the United States. But the fundamentals of plant based eating have been promoted by everyone from beyond say to Bill Clinton the past five years has ushered in a new era for the legume tofu and Tempe veganism has transformed from this more fringe and rights movement into a more mainstream lifestyle says Nina Gaiman, a Canadian sociologist instead of it being seen as a marginal thing where people eat a fellow sprouts, and mashed yeast it's seen as racial. This story was reported by Sarah Miller Yona in Toronto for the monitor. Among the films that caught monitor film critic, Peter Raynor's, I in March are an anti romance romance and a reimagining of Bonnie and CLYDE starring Woody Harrelson and Kevin Costner. You can find the full list in today's issue. Now commentary on elections from the monitor's editorial board. In upcoming contests in Slovakia, Ukraine, Indonesia, and elsewhere anti-corruption candidates are ahead in the polls. This fits the trend. Noted in a recent survey that showed more than half of one hundred twenty six countries of seen improvements in the absence of corruption. This will be the second year such progress has been recorded. We have an increasingly strong global norm against corruption says the world Justice project executive director, Elizabeth Anderson it is increasingly enforced by national governments by international bodies, the World Bank and the like. Yet, MS Anderson note official reforms are being reinforced by pretty powerful civil society and people power movement. All this makes it essential to closely watch many democratic elections, especially those in which candidates reflect popular demand for honesty, transparency and accountability. In government angel Korea secretary general of the organization for economic cooperation and development puts it this way. The world has a historic opportunity to combat corruption more effectively in build planet integrity. That's a wrap for the news. You can find the full length of versions of these stories in today's issue or CS monitor dot com slash daily. Come back Monday. When we'll have a story about a Beijing club that aims to turn into men effort points to shifting social realities everywhere and contested values the -til with more than masculinity. Today's Christian Science spiritual perspective column is a poem that highlights how we can never be outside of the powerful universal presence of God, you can find it into days issue or monitor dot com slash tale. We want to give quick thanks to our staff including today's audio production team Samantha lane purpose and Jeff turn. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science, Monitor copyright twenty nineteen.
Tuesday, July 7, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Monitor daily podcast. It's Tuesday July seventh. Thanks for joining us I'm Dave Scott. Ken Nordine Bianco. Fear anger the sense of injustice. Albany New York officers to Dhaka Tony offers a deeply felt perspective on the racial protests in America. A black man in blue. About thirteen percent of all US police officers are black officer. Tony has knelt with protesters and supports ending racial injustice, he says. But for the first time in his twelve year career, he's afraid to go to work. He's been cursed cult racial slurs and had an M. eighty tossed at him. He's long been judged by skin color. Now. He's judged by his uniform. I am not Derek shelving. I am not George. Floyd I am me I am compassionate and I am caring. So, why do you hate me? I've given the socks off my feet to a homeless drunk. WHO had no shoes? He writes. Officer Cantona's June six facebook post which he gave, the Monitor mission to share is a plea to be seen as a person, not a profile. Out of uniform, he's experienced being forced by cops to lie on the sidewalk because he fit a description. I listened to rap music. I wear baggy jeans and have tattoos all across my body. But why do you profile and stereotype? May this is a cry for nuance in a time of binary views, a voice for officers who operate with compassion and integrity. I can't walk away from being a black man. He said in a recent interview. And I refuse to walk away from a job. I have so much love and pride for. Now to today's stories. Are First story unlike some states that resisted stringent measures, California's response to the coronavirus drew widespread praise. Its current struggles offer lessons about the pace reopening and overconfidence born success. When the novel coronavirus hit the United States earlier, this year California was held up as a model of response, it was the first state to go into lockdown on March nineteenth, and it never experienced the heavy death toll of New York. But a recent resurgence of the virus has caused states democratic governor to reimpose restrictions. Last week closing indoor spaces such, says, restaurants, museums and movie theaters. Five other states are now backtracking unreal opening because of a surge in new cases while thirteen others are taking a pause. The US leads the world in cases as well as deaths from covid nineteen with the nation's death toll now at more than one, hundred and thirty thousand. California's struggle undercuts the narrative that recent spikes and several Republican led states can largely be chalked up to bad behavior by their leaders, says Robert Washer chair of the Department of Medicine at the University of California. San, Francisco. Californians were a little bit cavalier after up. He says still he believes what the state has done right now. Allow it to get the virus under control faster than states that have been less responsible. It's not at the crisis level. You see in Houston or Phoenix, he says. The story was reported by Francine Keefer in Santa Monica California for the Monitor. The? Pandemic poses a moral. If migrant workers are essential during this crisis. Should their life lifesaving sacrifices be rewarded with residency status? It's a question. Canada and other countries are considering. Canada's migrant agricultural and healthcare workers and asylum seekers are increasingly seeking permanent residents in the country and many Canadians agree that the essential nature of their work and sacrifice during the biggest modern threat to Canadian life should be recognized Quebec. The epicenter of Canada's Kobe crisis has leaned heavily on asylum seekers to fill in its depleted long term care facilities which have been ravaged by the pandemic. More than a thousand asylum seekers are working in Quebec's healthcare sector, and a large portion of them are non white women who are living in poverty. And as many as sixty thousand temporary workers are laboring in the country's critical culture and food production. This year's program went forward with workers required to quarantine for fourteen days upon arrival in Canada, but still the virus spread many public health officials say because bunking arrangements. Permanent residents for temporary workers would help protect them. Says Edward Dunn's worth. Historian at McGill University. It wouldn't solve every single issue. He says, but a lot of these problems really lead back to this issue of status. This story was reported by Sarah Miller Yana in Toronto and Jillian. Kessler, Damore in Montreal for the Monitor. Governments sometimes to hide the truth. In Kashmir, a communications blackout and lifted, but journalists still face challenges to the integrity of the reporting. Nearly one year ago new, Delhi stripped Kashmir of its special. Status Carbon it ended to union. Territories ruled directly by the Capitol. For many months cashmere lived under lockdown with communication services cut off, which officials argued was needed to maintain order. And yet journalists. To report some unable to access the Internet sent materials on thumb drives to New Delhi. But now with much access restored local journalists say they still face an increasingly challenging environment, one that some fear could make independent reporting all but impossible. A new media policy that allows authorities to examine and punish reporting. They deem detrimental to India's sovereignty and integrity has added to concerns and many reporters have been questioned by police. Kashmiri journalists are left with just two options, says editor on her OUGHTA seen, either they become vehicles of government, publicity departments, or continue their work professionally at the risk of facing consequences. But there have been brief bright spots this spring, an international awards to four local photo journalists including Pulitzer Prizes. Winning and award from the International Women's Media Foundation was an acknowledgement that the world is witnessing in reading our stories, says Mascot Zara, it gives us more strength and courage. This story was reported by the Hud Shah in Surena. Guard India for the Monitor. At a time when many rural villages have faded self pomfret, Vermont population nine hundred is thriving. The heart of its rebirth is an arts advocate a woman who inspires community and creativity. Kathleen Dolan's goal was to make the art more accessible to all. Many years ago, she began by touting her keyboard around Boston teaching music programs at childcare centers today. She owns a dynamic arts center that has transformed a small new England town and become a regional arts destination. Artis Tree Community Arts Center is a powerhouse of creativity, welcoming local artists to its clashes, art, exhibitions, concerts and theater productions in the village of south. pomfret Vermont. With her nonprofit, Ms Dolan has also brought new vitality to the sliver of quintessential. New, England where the local ski resort suicide six towers above the landscape. The Art Center Gallery and ninety seat grains theater have transformed his town of about nine hundred into something of a cultural center. The projects boosted visitor traffic and gave the village a new dose of vitality. It hasn't seen in decades. Throughout artists trees grows one thing is constant, a spirit of accessibility and inclusion. It's a place or individuals feel their created imaginative selves can thrive, and it supported, says Mazzola. N- is supported by teachers, but the people around you by the space. This story was reported by Gareth Henderson in South Humphry Vermont for the Monitor. Our ten best books for July include a novel of Enduring Love and Enduring Friendships set in Hawaii against the backdrop of a nineteen thirty five. Okay, no eruption. You may also enjoy taking your understanding of Wales to new depths with fathoms who work of insight and wonder. And there's becoming Duchess Goldblatt a testament, the powers of redemption, reinvention, and yes country singer Lyle Lovett you can find the fullest of books in today's issue. A. Now commentary on leadership from Monitor's editorial board. Uncle Miracle has been cautious technocrat. The German chancellor demanded a government run with fiscal austerity. But with her political career, nearing its end, she'll leave office in twenty twenty one. She's now showing another quality. A willingness to dramatically change course when new evidence calls for. Ms. Merkel and Germany took over the rotating presidency of the EU. July first. The Union faces in our own words, the greatest economic challenge in the history of the European Union. Now. She must persuade the EU's member countries to undertake a gigantic aid program. In May she and French President Emmanuel macron proposed that the E. You borrow five hundred billion euros on financial markets to fund the effort. so much furnace steer and debt free Germany. The Times she realized had demanded. Helping. Needy neighbors was good for everyone she insisted. It is and Germany's interests to have the European Union grow closer together, not fall apart. Has Ever. What's good for Europe has good for us. That broad perspective holds great promise to guide Europe through this economic storm. And allow it to emerge once again, prosperous, democratic and united. That's our news. You can find the full length versions of these stories and today's issue or at CS monitor dot com slash daily. Thanks for joining us. Come back tomorrow. We're working on a story about a meeting between the leaders of Mexico and the United States. Does each hope to gain? Today's Christian science spiritual perspective, contributor shares how a young woman turn to God for healing when a motorcycle accident threatened her ability to Star College. Could find the fall on today's issue or see US monitor. Dot Com slash daily? Grace note of gratitude to our staff including today's audio production team Samantha Link Purpose and Jeff Burton. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science. Monitor Copyright Twenty twenty.
Tuesday, July 14, 2020 - The Christian Science Monitor Daily
"Welcome to the Monitor daily podcast. It's Tuesday, July fourteenth. Thanks for joining us I'm Dave Scott. And I'm Kendra Nordine, biondo. You may have heard that the Sean Jackson The Philadelphia Eagles Receiver was widely criticized for recently posting antisemitic comments on social media. Knowing, England, Patriots Receiver Julian. Elman hasn't said much about his Jewish heritage during his eleven year NFL career, but elements response was a two minute and thirty second INSTAGRAM MASTERCLASS! Handling hate. He didn't respond with anger or, derision. He also didn't give Jackson Pass. anti-semitism is one of the oldest forms of hatred is rooted in ignorance and fear. He said. He praised Jackson's Gridiron feats and looked for common ground. I think the black and Jewish. Communities have a lot of similarities. When unfortunate similarity is that? They are both attacked by the ignorant and the hateful settlement. He goes on to say that real change comes from uncomfortable conversations. He invited Jackson to visit the United States Holocaust memorial museum in DC. And suggested Jackson, take him to the National Museum of African American history and culture. And then afterward we'll grab some burgers and we'll have those uncomfortable conversations he said adding. This world needs a little more love, compassion and empathy. Jackson has apologized for his posts. Eshelman followed up with a phone call and tweeted Friday that they had agreed to educate one another and grow together. Love, compassion and Burgers. That's a recipe for ending Kate. Now today's stories. Our first story. If the economy is going to rebound. Schools aren't essential resource like roads and utilities. Ask any working mom. Yet our reporters find in the US and Canada that public officials teachers and parents are not yet prioritizing and collaborating on how to reopen the classroom. As, governments allow restaurants, malls, and even gyms to reopen with strict new guidelines. Schools are seeming a policy after thought too many in the united. States President Donald. Trump is pressuring governors to reopen schools in person come fall yet with Kobe nineteen cases climbing across many states and several large urban school systems, already announcing plans for online, only or hybrid instruction, a full return to school. Here's unlikely to occur for many students. But the problem remains. The economy can't grow without children and Save full-time care. Competing priorities, a streak of individualism and perhaps most crucially stretched resources. Not to mention the uncertain science around Covid, nineteen and the anxieties, parents feel about sending their kids back into settings. have conspired to leave families and their employers in prolonged limbo. Yet, if carefully planned school, reopening could be done in many places expert suggest. We have policy solution for entertainment and personal services in restaurants. We can continue to do unemployment, support and loans for small businesses says Sarah Otas, associate professor of Economics Education at Columbia University. Currently, we don't have any policies or solutions for kids other than to say to families tough luck, figure it out. This story was reported by Sarah Miller Yana and Chelsea she's Louis in Toronto and Boston for the Monitor. As the US reopens in fits and starts, we gathered the data for some charts that show trend lines economic progress, but also suggest enduring shifts in the lives of Americans. It's no secret that the coronavirus pandemic has altered daily patterns of life. It has upended everything from commuting and dining out to sending children to school or sports practices. Efforts to stop the spread of Covid nineteen have caused dramatic economic slump with US consumer activity running about nine percent blow pre pandemic levels as time passes, it grows harder for those affected businesses to recover. One sobering trend in recent weeks, more unemployment has shifted from temporary to permanent. Some people are coping fine with working at home, and the trend toward more telework appears likely to endure beyond the Behan. One positive result could be lower emissions of gases that contribute to global warming. But, by some measures, more socially isolated lives mean arise in mental health challenges. One thing people can do for friends or neighbors who may be struggling to reach out even in simple ways. It has a positive fact, says Marizzio Fava Psychiatrist in chief and Massachusetts General Hospital in recent statement. The story it was reported by Mark Trumbull for the Monitor to see the three economic charts by Jake. Turcott Goto. CS MONITOR DOT. com slash daily. Stories have powered connect you to language culture and a shared sense of identity. When south Sudanese Refugee Peter. Deng realized books about his country, and its history were scarce. He took steps to change that. Years of war have forced hundreds of thousands of people from what is now south Sudan to become refugees. One of them is Peter Denning who moved from the cattle camps where he was raised to a Kenyan refugee camp and finally to Perth Australia. Australia is home to some twenty five thousand people born in Sudan or South Sudan. But Mr Dang worried that many people. He met new little of their communities history. They trip over the words when they try to speak their mother tongues. I didn't want people to forget where they came from. He says I wanted them to know the history they were part of. If, he wanted to make his country's literature and history more accessible. He decided he needed to start printing it himself. He never worked in publishing before, but founded Africa with books. Not only as a resource for the members of the diaspora, but for their Australian neighbors to. Reading our history can be part of her healing Mr. Dang says because we come from an oral culture. This is a job. None of my ancestors had, but I think it's one they would respect. The story was reported by Ryan. Lenore Brown for the Monitor. Our weekly roundup of global points of progress includes how Fiji is reviving coral reefs using ancient management techniques. How sharing Bush satellite data is helping farmers in Africa. And how Germany's judicial system is writing Nazi era ranks? You can read the full report by Lindsey McGinnis on ceus monitor dot. COM Now commentary on removing names that hurt from the Monitor's editorial board. What's in a name? A lot we are learning. The decision by Washington's National Football League team to change its name from a racist slur against native Americans who remove one of the most offensive nicknames in sports after eighty seven years, redskins has finally been retired. The effects should be to deepen the rethinking of names not only in sports. Where Society? Washington's decision was a financial one. Its corporate sponsors no longer felt comfortable. Being associated with name, they threatened to leave. The change wasn't made. Sponsors themselves were under pressure. They faced a sea change in public opinion. The death of George Floyd the hands of police in Minneapolis in May seem to ignite a widespread feeling across racial and generational lines. Enough is enough. The golden rule it seems is being applied. How would I feel if I were in there shoes? Ways of thinking, do change. Limited views expand and taken the world from broader perspectives. The mark. Rossini's only exist in practice if the rights of minorities are protected. That makes the uncovering and correcting of slights towards Black and native. Americans good news for American democracy. News confined the full length versions of these stories today's issue or at CBS monitor dot. COM SLASH Thanks for joining us, come back tomorrow. We've got an interview with a former American insurance executive who shares he spread lies about Canada's healthcare system. Today's Christian Science Spiritual Perspective common shares how when Changing Times all for adaptability in our living situations. Considering what it means to dwell God's spirit in Ankara's. Guide her next. Find the column things issue. See US MONITOR DOT com slash. Grace note of gratitude to our staff. Including today's audio production. Neighboring Richards. And Jeff Burton. This podcast is produced by the Christian Science Monitor Copyright Twenty Twenty.