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"sarah hill" Discussed on Here We Are
"I in an ideal world you would. You would find a guy and b both on and off the pill at certain intervals to be like. Do i still like this guy. Yeah no i think there's one bit of sort of takeaway advice from all that research. It would be this and that is under women who do not need to be on. Hormonal contraceptives Like if you just on them because you were you were in a relationship last month in now and when anymore Minneapolis on them. Because you're on them And you're looking for a partner. I in my recommendation would be that You know take a break. Take a break from your pills. Phyllida while Need to be on it. don't be on it And especially if you're going to be looking for a partner because spend more of your life probably not being on hormonal contraceptives and you are going to be spending on them. And so you may as well have lake sorta version of yourself that you are not on the pill be the version that's choosing your partner If possible and of course this is an is possible for my men. And you know the evidence. It's still like it's probably not going to be influencing All women's relationships and in you know really dramatic ways for the like i said it is really provocative. And it's something to keep in mind if you're a woman and you're trying to strategize your use of the birth control pill in ways that makes sense to use it when it's make sense use it and then not to use that or take a break from during times when you know it might just be better off to have your own hormones. Doing their thing I wonder if i'm an honor. Offer what you think you should have a. You should have like a thing on on site or something like that that that tells guys i love it. i think. I think you need to have.
"sarah hill" Discussed on Here We Are
"Symptomology that we see in the pill taker is because you know one of the things that one way of you are thinking about cortisol conceptually like what it does is. It helps us. It helps our bodies in our brains. Absorb are important experiences right. And so like like you're absorbing in terms of your brain and everything else like moments that are meaningful like whether that meaningful moment is like your wedding day big cortisol surge or your life's in danger but cortisol surge but having these dynamic changes in cortisol is you know it's associated with like important events right in the idea of not having these dynamic bursts of cortisol activity in some ways. I think can almost be this. It's almost like getting a biological signal that nothing important is happening in your environment. Rather thank you just live in a totally neutral environment. Where good things or bad things don't happen it's just like your flatlined and Yeah and i have no doubt in my mind that That this flattened or blunt absent were tall Signaling that we get in In the pill-takers That in addition to the changes in gap urging activity as also probably associated with some of the mental health problems that we see in women on hormonal contraceptives With with that tend to lower sex drive as well then because it would be interesting to take to take this pill so that you can have more freely than right. Yeah yeah so. It does decree like so. Yeah in that is Also one of the side effects with With the pill is that it does in a lot of women it decreases sexual motivation and in some women even sexual functioning so not only the not really want sacks when they're having sex their body isn't responding in the normal way is that women's bodies respond to sexual activity and off the hook. For a lot of your. That was not me until. Yeah no. that's usually you know the reasons for that. The reason they get those patterns of results is because of what happens with testosterone. So one thing that we know about birth control is that they increase on the release of what's known as sex hormone binding globulin those like bind up your to saas thrown and make it unusable to your body and pill-takers much higher levels of the they're called the i've S h bg's so psycho binding globulin. They have much higher levels of the isn't much less usable t. And so that's one of the big reason that you get reduced sexual functioning women and the other one is just that when you're suppressing ovulation in your suppressing Sort of ovarian you know Maturation of of egg follicles. You're suppressing estrogen. And that's the other thing really fuels female sexual response. And so when you keep both on estrogen and testosterone really low that sort of like a recipe for lack of sexual desire and so you know one mechanism by which hormonal contraceptives work right. In addition to suppressing ovulation is also suppressing of sexual behavior. All the more reason to get a vasectomy. If you're all them were season well what about this. So your your so. I know your husband has a vasectomy from your book but What about if you if you just want to lower your. You're you're going to visit family or having you're having to travel well well traveling. You gotta give an important speech via zoom in the car with their in your kids..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Here We Are
"But all of the other all of the other implications i it is still true so i mean it's now you know there are many doctors offices that will talk about the possibility of You know what they call a mood related side effects so that it might You know in some women cause problems of mood and they also will sometimes discuss with their patients that it could be associated with changes in libido and sexual functioning. But that's about as far as it ever goes you know and and and that's not even all doctors offices and do you. Do you think a little bit of that is also that just like talking about like the idea of. There's plenty of female doctors but the idea of a male doctor like man's planing women's like moody nece that there's like a little bit of just like general uncomfortable with that. Too of not wanting to like perpetuate the just so you know this might make a little bit. Might make you cook. I think that there's probably an element of that. But i really think that the biggest issue and i don't think that this is unique to birth control and i don't think that it's You know in the fault of individual doctors. But i think there's this artificial disconnect on that still exists in medicine where They still believe in like mind. Body cartesian split where you go into the doctor's office all the ways that medication is going to influence everything outside of your brain right. Because as far as they're concerned that research belongs in a different in it does it. Actually that research gets published totally different journals. That aren't read by physicians Physicians are reading about. How does this medication. Influence the heart valve or you know the risk of stroke or Ldl cholesterol levels. But they don't read about..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Here We Are
"Oh it's me that's just a clone of people be like what is wrong with you like well i never i never realized how selfless i could possibly be started raising myself. Sulaiman shane depth of my ability to care for another. You know it's funny because it'd be really interesting to see like Narcissism an parenthood right so like our narcissists actually like even more into their kids even more selfless than Narcissists really interesting. The fun is surely they are right. Wow yeah yeah oh man. I just had a narcissism episode. Oh let's get into it. That's that that would be a wonderful study. see all right. well i'm going to. I'm going to. I'm going to connect you with my narcissism researcher. That i so let's let's talk about your your book. What's it all about. This is i mean we. I was when i i have you on here for this reason. Yeah that sounds about right so let's just assume because i don't even remember the conversation. I'm sure we generally talked about some of this stuff but But why don't you just give everyone overview of your of your work and also go back and listen to the first one as well as my memory serves me. It was it was good. It was fabulous. I think it was the best episode the had now so the book is about this rain. Birth control so it's m. as you might expect about the way that the birth control pill influences women's sort of their brains and then their behavior in their experiences of the world and You know the book just sorta starts out with an overview of the way that women sex hormones influence women's brains And then what. The birth control pill does women sex hormones and then what the research shows about the way that that Sort of influence is the way that women experience the world and and i wrote the bug because I think that we have a blind spot when it comes to hormonal contraceptives Like a Was that..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Here We Are
"Yes where are we here. Why are we here not entirely clear. We are misfits throats by and With no less to post it all is immensely. We a welcome to the here. We are podcast. I'm shane moss here with my return guest sarah hill who is out with her new book. This is your brain on birth control. Welcome back sarah thinks about to be back..
"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"PODCAST if you're listening to us in the overcast player please click that little star next to the episode. We really appreciate it and now for the conclusion of our episode with Dr Sarah Hill. It's seriously problematic and you do a job in the book of of explaining how the pill is essentially unlocked all this human capital. You're you're a psychologist so you probably is hard to say whether you've made it all the way through your studies if you were worried about getting pregnant all time you'd have had a certainly different social life. I would imagine during that period of time not to die. That's a nice way of saying that Jordan L.. Making an assumption here but there's a lot of women that want careers and they also want to have a significant other and it's kind of tricky to have both I mean imagine going to medical school and your in year nine right and then you're like well it got to drop out. I mean that's terrible. Yeah no it is terrible. And it's like you know more than anything on the birth control pill what's been amazing about it is. It has allowed women for the first time in history. The street to plan and most of us won't begin doing something that takes a long time like going and getting a medical degree or getting a PhD. You're going to law school unless we. I feel pretty certain that we're going to be able to complete whatever it is that we're doing and having the birth control pill man just you know. Having the ability to safely and really effectively regulator fertility tilleke has been an absolute game changer for women. And you see this when you look at the rates of women who are applying to advanced degree programs. You see that after the birth control pill became legally available to women who were single back in about nineteen seventy. You see that. Women's applications to post secondary education occasion and to advanced degree programs like medical schools and law schools went from being only ten percent of applicants to fifty percent of applicants. It's really really allowed women to dream bigger and do more and you're right like in so doing it's opened up all of this new capital. You know some of the most brilliant women that I know. I don't think that they would be doing the things that they're doing. I mean some of these women are doing things like coming up with revolutionary treatments for cancer or coming up with revolutionary a new ideas for the prevention of Alzheimer's disease. And I think about the fact that you know there is a time in our history before we had access to safe really effective modes of fertility. Regulation that these women wouldn't be doing these things in how much better we are as a society for having something like this. And being able to regulate our fertility and opening opening up the doors for these really brilliant women to be able to make our world better. It's amazing I WANNA go back to some of the different ways that being on and off cycle the fertility cycle affect preferences because this stuff is just so dang interesting so one takeaway here women see other ovulating women at high fertility in often won't like that their men are interacting with her. I mean how fascinating is this rates. This is an unconscious process. And of course my take away from this guy well as A. I don't know as a guy who probably should take other things away from this. It's like okay so if we want to meet some women on the prowl. We bring another woman who knows a thing for us. We wait for her to get jealous. We've ovulation radar right. Yeah no it is so fascinating like both men and women seem to be able to pick up on another woman's fertility status adas in the exact mechanisms through which this is going on or probably multifaceted because we know for example that men prefer the scent of women at high fertility compared to low fertility. So there's probably some sent based queuing we know like when you have men and women looking at faces and partial body shots of ovulating on ovulating women that both men and women seem to be able to detect fertility in not like in a way where they're asking like is this person fertile title but rather like how attractive is this person and men tend to find women you know their faces and bodies more attractive when those women. We are at high fertility compared to those exact same women when they're at low fertility than women. As you mentioned they tend to find women more Threatening when these women are at high fertility compared to low fertility and they and their jealousy tends to increase so they feel more jealous of their partner is interacting in or even if they just imagine their partner interacting with somebody. WHO's at high fertility compared to fertility so all of us seems to have the ability to pick up on these subtle cues news to estrogen presence into high fertility? You know who knows. Maybe the birth control pill right because it's suppressing estrogen and suppressing women's fertility like neighboring favoring this whole new era of female friendship right where women are going to be feeling threatened by other women and so maybe it's going to actually facilitate more female female friendship. You know stay tuned. Yeah cattiness is down globally man. There's so many fascinating to tell me about strippers and tipping during their cycle. And while on the pill this was just like Who studied this? That's what I want to know I know you like why was I not working in that research lovelier chiming in college. Can you imagine asking for funding for this. So what we WANNA WANNA know is and they're just like yeah. Yeah Yeah we get tenure exactly exactly we will fund this and. Here's some singles. Go have the gentlemen grant funding singles Avenue Come and observe this laboratory yeah during this particular experiment I can see all the the old guys being like This is very curious. Let's let's go a group. Yes yes we have to go inspect and make sure that their research methods are above the board. Yes yes gentlemen's right. Yeah I WANNA make make sure that this is all properly documented and I was like excuse me could you show me to this champagne room. Please doing research his So so th- this study is just so fun and it's a study that it's fun and it's also really clever and it's clever because one problem that we tend to have in science and this is particularly true in psychology because human behavior. It's like we say one thing and we do another all the time I mean. We're just people are hypocritical on. It's because of course you know we. We don't always know why we're doing the things that we're doing and we also don't always necessarily like to say what we're GonNa do we just you know. It's always better as a researcher to be able to get sort of non on reactive measures such as measuring people behaving in the wild and then using that as a means of understanding their psychological state and that was what these researchers did with the sort of infamous lap dancers study and so in this study. What the researchers were really entrusted and was whether or not men can pick up on these subtle cues was to fertility right and so do men tend to reward women? More when fertility is high so when estrogen is high across the cycle compared to infertility ability is low and then we not observe the same type of thing of course across the cycle. When we're looking at women on the birth control pill because women on the birth control pill or of course chronically infertile? Ray Estrogen never increases across the cycle. It's cut relatively low across the board and so what was really clever about the study. was that the researchers were able to quantify men's sort of interest in women by studying tip earnings buy these exotic dancers or strippers and so what they did is they had strippers in a club. Or you know the club quote unquote the club. They had the strippers make Achon note of a whether or not they were on the birth control pill or whether they were naturally cycling and then they just had to keep a diary over the course of a month of their tip earnings and they also had to make note of when they got there period. Because you can actually if a woman reports when she gets her period you can make some pretty good estimates midst of what her fertility status is and what her hormone status as just using that information alone because starting from Ground Zero which is the day that a woman gets period. Usually starting about you know three to five days afterward. You're going to begin to see estrogen levels begin to creep up and then they start to really increase right around eight nine ten eleven. Twelve is an estrogen Tennessee. Really hike because that's when ovulation is getting ready to occur and that's when conception as possible and then it starts to decrease and some of these researchers wanted to know was during the time when estrogen is relatively high conception risk is high. Are Women actually earning more more money. Do men find them more attractive in our giving them more tip earnings. A one fertility is high compared to when it is low and then is this sort of mid cycle increasing tip earnings that was predicted. Is it suppressed in the pill taking dancers like do pill taking dancers earn sort of a more steady income across the cycle all. I'm not having this big. You know predicted increase in tip earnings when estrogen is high. So the women in the club they kept track of you know when they got their period and then they kept track of what their tip earnings were and what the researchers found was that Lo and behold the naturally cycling women were in fact. Earning a significantly greater amount of money at high fertility compared to low fertility so. They were earning the most money. They're getting more most bang for their buck. When estrogen levels were really high and women who are on the birth control pill on the other hand they had relatively stable tip earnings across the month and they never reached that peak that were reached by the naturally cycling women? And so so there's a couple of takeaways here right one which men seem to be able to pick up on cues estrogens presence and to fertility in that they find women most desirable. Whether it's you know the women are dancing particularly sexy at this point in time whether their body is like particularly good whether they smell particularly good you know. We don't know any of that from the study they didn't really get down to the nitty gritty. And what is it exactly. That's changing at high fertility. That's making these women more desirable to men at this time compared to other points in the cycle so we don't know exactly what the mechanism is. But the women at high fertility. Were were earning more money than the same women. Were earning thing at points. In the cycle when fertility was low and when estrogen was low whereas the poor pill-takers those poor pill taking women they never reached that ah apex of earnings and so their overall tip earnings across the cycle relatively lower than the naturally cycling women and the naturally cycling women were really benefiting from the rise in estrogen that was occurring mid cycle right near ovulation. I heard that even the voice and faces judge more attractive during the fertile phase. So is that a health indicator is that right okay. They seem healthier because their voice in phases judge more attractive because where they are in their cycle. Yeah well it's not much health per se as it is for Tilleke right because essentially what everybody is picking up on like conception risk gotcha in that you know and men of course have been wired evolution by selection two zero in on qualities that historically have been linked with conception risk because by doing so of course men historically who were most attracted to women when they were able to conceive those men would have probably passed down that preference for those qualities to a greater number of descendants than men who had alternative preferences and so yeah men and women both they're evaluating like the voice of women for example they find their voices more attractive sounding ending when those women are high fertility compared to when they're at relatively low fertility and. Interestingly I've to tell you this because I've been dying to share this with anybody who will listen sure because because I got an email from vocal coach and what she found is that her sopranos if they they go on the birth control pill because it suppresses estrogen it actually suppresses their ability to hit the highest notes. What is how wild? Yeah and this just goes to show you that. Women's voices you know are influenced by estrogen presence and that women's voices they do get a little bit higher at high fertility compared to low fertility in the cycle and when you suppress women's levels of sex hormones including estrogen and a really big way that it actually can change the quality of their voice..
"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
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"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Were you on the pill where you off of it. What was your level of sex hormones at this time? What is it this time? It's all very complex and nuanced. We can't make really good predictions yet about. Who's GonNa Respond? What way to what formulation of the pill? With what quality of relationship this information mation for women to have to either a better understand their own relationship dynamics. Or if you're a woman who you know is on the birth control pill just because you it's procedural inertia right you've been on it because you were in a sexual relationship. You're not in one right now but you're hoping to find a long term partner I mean my recommendation to That woman might be. Hey if you don't need the birth control pill right now and you're looking for a partner like maybe you go off it for a little while. Maybe you you let your naturally cycling hormones have a say in who you're attracted to you right now because it could matter in the long term. We don't yet know the research isn't at a spot where we can really really you know. Make a prognosis about what people's relationships are going to look like on and off the birth control pill is really worth. I think taking into consideration sure as we sort of you know move forward thinking about partner choice so maybe again. The scientists the jury's still out but she's long term partners went off the pill short-term probably use the pill because getting in pregnant by the wrong guy trump's pretty much anything else that we might be discussing here. Oh yeah no absolutely and and even with anything that I talk about my book and I try to make sure that I mentioned this frequently is like no matter what problem it is and I'm telling readers about like in terms of things that could potentially sort of go wrong when they're on the birth control pill almost I none of those I mean I can't think of a single one of those outcomes that's worse than being barefoot and pregnant at seventeen like right it's like just to put everything into perspective. Uh Not getting pregnant at the wrong time is such a big deal that needs to really factor heavily into women's minds when they're making these decisions. Because I do think that we take birth control for granted and we kind of forget that you know without the ability to safely regulate our fertility. Our lives would be much worse You're listening to Jordan Harbinger. Show with our guest Dr Sarah Hill. We'll be right back after this. This episode is sponsored in part by ever Elaine. A lot of brands talk about making the best basics and yet they disappoint the fit sucks. There's super expensive. They stretch out there in the wash fall apart after a couple of months. So you buy new ones once you start the process all over and you just suck it up. It's kind of like going to the tow yard when your car gets towed from a parking ticket you do nothing you can do about it. That's why you need uniform by ever lane. It's a collection collection of men's basics. They actually last. They look and fit. Great Classic Tees Four Way.
"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Or they need to be helping. You know. Make their partner happy if they're trying to maintain the integrity of their long-term pair bond and so as our sex hormones change and both men and women have sex hormones that change as they change. They do change what we think. Feel Indu but this is a good thing. It's not a bad it doesn't make us sort of capricious and whimsical. It allows us to better adapt to our environment and to be able to meet each one of our evolutionary end points in a really coordinated. It really smart way. Can you give us a little bit of an overview of how during different times in a woman's cycle she's looking for different qualities in men and also of course chorus how that changes made preference. Because if you're messing with that now you're messing with your mate preferences and then suddenly you go off the pill because you WanNa have kids and it's like what the L. exactly it's like. What did I do terrible mistake? Yeah exactly so women's sex hormones it's really fascinating and this is something that researchers they've really kinda dived into over the last couple of decades and this is just that idea that women during the first half of the ovulation cycle or the menstrual cycle. You No this is when an egg is beginning to mature and this is all the stuff we learned in health class as the egg. follicles are being stimulated and there is an egg that's growing and maturing this process leads to the release of relatively high levels of estrogen and estrogen increases. You know as a woman nears is closer to ovulation and just as a reminder ovulation is when a woman's body releases an egg that can then of course be fertilized and you know turn into a baby baby and this is of course something that evolution by selection. I'm has worked really closely with a given that. The whole process is driven by the act of reproduction action and gene transmission and so during times in the cycle when estrogen is relatively high so this is during those times prior to ovulation in particular. You you know right near ovulation so like five or so days prior to ovulation which is known as the Perry auditory phase of the cycle. This is when estrogen levels are relatively really high. Okay so this is when your body is gearing up for the possibility of conception and so this is the sex hormone estrogen actually cues a whole string of events in our brain that are basically getting women ready to have sex with a potentially really high quality partner because this is the time in the cycle when consumption is possible and so what the research finds what it predicted. I guess first. And then of course what they have found. Once they've collected data is that given given that estrogen levels are relatively high points in the cycle when conception risk is high. We should expect that a it should increase women's sort of desire for sex sex right because an egg isn't gonna be able to fertilize itself right. And so women should sort of be really attuned to activities that might get sperm within then proximity of the egg and so women should sort of be more very diplomatic. Could tell my my mom. Yeah when I was about to go out out and it would usually keep me from having to be home early but it's like if I'm wait. Wait you told your mom. I'm ovulating so I need to go an increase activities that they wanna cut that part. I'm not sure I think we're Leonelli my like my scientific jargon that I was trying to use to break itself out of an early curfew and then my mom would be like no Sarah. That's disgusting. They write discussing Coming home and change your clothes right. You're not wearing that exactly. Yeah so you know during points in the cycle when conception is possible Estrogen is relatively high and it increases. Women's desire Zaire for sex. It increases their sort of atonement. Two men generally so women sort of notice men more when estrogen is relatively high. And at this time I'm When estrogen is high women are also really sort of attune to what I'M GONNA call sexiness cues so at high fertility? Women tend to you sort of place a greater emphasis on queues at historically been associated with the sex hormone testosterone in men. So things like a man with the deep voice like a relatively deeper set is square jaw broad shoulders. Social dominance. Those types of cues are found sort particularly sexy to women at high fertility when estrogen is high relative to other points in the cycle. And there's been some really neat research where they've actually looked at a woman's own estrogen levels across the cycle and how that predict their preference for testosterone markers and men and what you can find. Is that what you see with. His research estrogen levels predict the testosterone levels. That women prefer men just basically showing that estrogen. Really you know like these sort of Manley Manley Hughes and men in the idea behind this is that testosterone is believed to be a quote unquote good genes marker and what this means is just that to Saas. Thrown has been historically linked to having a relatively low mutation load and having a relatively good immune system. I'm in the idea behind. This is just that testosterone is known immune suppressive so if you like take exogenous testosterone so guys who are taking steroids for for example it actually suppresses the activities of your immune system and naturally your body will not allow itself to produce copious amounts of testosterone. Unless it's immune system can handle it right and so this is one of the reasons that testosterone is sort of linked to hide. Genetic quality are believed. We you know sort of a cue to hide. Genetic genetic quality is just because only a man who has a relatively good immune system only his body is going to be producing copious amounts of testosterone. Because he's the only one really afford it immunologically. And so what. The research finds is that at high fertility. Women tend to have a heightened preference for these sort of cues to masculinity and sexiness in their partners in that this sort of goes away once estrogen is no longer the dominant sex hormone and so with the birth control pill of course what the birth control pill does is it. Suppresses Women's own levels of sex hormones so it keeps estrogen and progesterone relatively low. And every day you're taking this pill it has a relatively high level of synthetic progesterone or progestin relative to estrogen is what this means. Is that when you're taking the birth control pill you're basically Siklie kept in a consistent state of progesterone or Progestin in this case dominance. So you're never having that opportunity for estrogen to kind of take over the reins and sort of cue into these types of testosterone markers and so what researchers predicted might happen to women on the birth control pill is that they might actually exhibit a preference for less masculine men relative to what is observed among naturally cycling women in so researchers searchers have gone out and tested this both by looking at the preferences for male faces of pill taking compared to non pill taking women but also looking at the faces faces of partners that were chosen by women who are either on or off of the birth control pill in in both cases what they found is that women who are on the birth control pill not only do they prefer a less masculine male face been. This is true whether they're choosing this face as a short term. Sexual Your partner or a long term commited romantic partner but they also seem to be choosing as partners men with less masculine faces so when they compared the faces. This is a partners who were chosen by large sample of women who are on the birth control pill compared to a large sample of women who were naturally cycling. The faces of the naturally cycling women's partners were more masculine than those at the birth control pill taking women's partners. So what does this do then to our long term versus short term mating eating strategies. What does it do to women's mating strategies right because there's a guy can't really do much about that but of course I mean maybe let your five o'clock shadow out a little bit you know but right like what is this do because it seems like then okay great? I'm on the pill I'm looking for this. Nice less masculine guy. Because that's what the pills told my brain at once I get married. I want to have a baby. I go off the pill and I'm like where are your cheekbones. Man where's your jaw line. What happened you? Don't look like the guy was Dayton college. What was I thinking right? Hopefully you find out earlier or or hopefully you could adapt but it seems like kind of dangerous. Not good for your marriage good for spreading jeans though. This is a super provocative so this is a result that is like like brain velcro because once you start thinking about it. It's hard to stop thinking about it. At least you know it was for me when I I was learning about this research because it really is sort of provocative when we think about the idea that the birth control pill may be shaping. These sort of big relationship dynamics is pretty interesting stuff and there has been research looking at what happens when women are on the birth control pill choose a partner and then go off of it right that sort of like the eight million question and in one of the best executed executed sort of versions of this research on what researchers did is they actually mayor. They followed married couples over time so they did a Longitudinal Study of married couples and then they wanted to see what happens with the women in their sample who were on the birth control pill and they chose their partner. What happens at such a point if they go off of it in? How does it change their sexual satisfaction? And how does it change their relationship satisfaction and what they found. was that going off of the Birth Control Pill Hill for this sample of women did change their sexual and relationship satisfaction but whether it got better or worse depended on how hot their partner was so women who were partnered to attractive men. They actually reported an increase in sexual satisfaction and relationship satisfaction after going off the birth control pill but if they were partnered to somebody who is not attractive they found the opposite they actually felt worse about their sex life and they felt worse about their partner in sort of the big picture of their relationship even written this is potentially you know it's not anything to get alarmed about. I don't want women to be who you are listening to this. And they chose their partner. When they're on the birth control pill to run out and find get a good lawyer on retainer no? It's like crap I've got to start spiking my wife's Pumpkin Spice Vice Lot as with the birth control pill or marriage is over there. Get the guys are more worried. I think right now right. Yeah so what the follow up research says is for those people people who are really feeling worried. Is that the relationship between all of these variables of the relationship between your pill status at the time you choose your partner and then how attractive your partner is and how that changes your relationship satisfaction over time. All of this stuff seems to be incredibly complicated and seems to be influenced by a number of factors including sort of what your pre birth control pill level of hormones was how different is the birth control pill making you from from the version of yourself that you were before you were on it but also the relationship dynamics so there's some really cool work in non human primates. So this is something that hasn't doesn't yet been tested in humans. I'm hoping that this gets done soon. Maybe we'll do something like this in my own lab but what they find. Is that the way that the birth control pill either either being going on it when you were previously off it or going off of it when you were previously on it the way that this influences the relationship dynamics with your existing partners. There's seems to be very much influenced by the quality of the relationship and so the quality of the relationship is also something. That's probably going to be paramount here. Been so looking at complex dynamics between like how attractive your partner is the quality of the relationship..
"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Yeah that's horrible actually. Because you don't think this is going to contribute to problems with my memory problems problems with the way that I view my life. The story arc of my life kind of you know not to put too dramatic spin on it but who are we if not for these events that we remember and feel certain way about out and those are all blunted. I imagine somebody going well if my wedding day and I'm remembering it was like a childbirth and it's like like that's not good for are you looking at your future and thinking but I'm GonNa have this bright future. It could make you pretty depressed. I think well yeah no I think for sure and you know it was not terribly surprising. Then you know when you look at the patterns of things like You know the risk of depression among women who are on the birth control pills. It's not surprising at all when we really consider the fact doc that in addition to some of the other things that we know that the birth control pill does men terms of changing what women sex hormones are doing and changing the activities of some of their neurotransmitter systems. uh-huh which we might talk about at some point to that it's also changing our stress hormone profile in a way that sort of makes us less able to sort of imbed our life yeah. It's really not surprising that women sometimes have problems with mood on the birth control. Pal I want to talk about some of these reproductive stuff evolutionary psychology. 'cause I know you have so so much interesting material in the book about that as well. So parental investment is higher for women than men. Right we kind of are there for a certain period of time in terms of station of the baby and and she's got nine plus months. And what do you call it. The fourth trimester the first three months of birth and then I don't know the next several years we've found also that children who look more like their fathers tend to get more investment from dad and I guess that's because what if it looks like me that I'm more certain that it's mine I don't know yeah I know that's so funny. Yeah so in the beginning of the book when I'm really sort sort of laying out like what is a woman sort of biologically like what does it mean to be a woman and part of asking that question means what does that mean to be different from men like why are men and women different from one another and I address this using an evolutionary biological perspective right and that is that a lot of the differences that we see between men and women ultimately oh themselves themselves to the fact that each one of us has had to solve. Different sets of adaptive problems over the course of evolutionary history. Right and so for women we've had to solve some Adaptive challenges or some sort of survival and reproductive challenges that have to do with being the sex that has to invest a minimum of nine months in pregnancy right and this is the the reason for example that we see that women tend to be sort of more cautious in terms of sexual partners than are men right because the costs of making in a bad meeting decision especially historically before we had contraception a much more steep for women than they are for men into get to this issue that you were talking about with the faces of babies as being evaluated by men. One set of adaptive challenges that men have had to solve over the course of evolutionary history. That women have not has been this problem of what's known as paternity uncertainty and. It's just this idea that anytime a woman has a baby. She knows for certain that it's related to her. No woman has ever had a child and looked at it and thought. I don't know I don't know Jim. Jim's like yeah what have you been up to for the last couple years but for men you know. There's always a chance that when your partner has a child that is not actually yours in all of this means is is that for men and women. There's been sort of differences in the degree to which evolution by selection has penalized sort of unmitigated love and care of children right so for women who are investing really heavily in any child that that is their avalanche in by selection has never penalized that that is is never been costly for women to invest like crazy just like do all the gymboree classes and spend all their time with this baby and do all of those things. There's no selection has never penalized. Is that because it's always a woman taking her energies and investing them in genetic relative right and those are the types right that tend to get rewarded in terms of gene transmission which is ultimately how traits get inherited and how the process of evolution by selection works. I'm for men. However men you know would have been penalized allies in some cases if they just sort of through unmitigated love devotion of resources toward any child that their partner has? I'm in this of course is because there's there's always a chance any child that a man's partner has isn't actually biologically his right. There's always the possibility that it might actually belong to Somebody else else because of this just because this is a possibility not saying that this happens with terrible alarming frequency but because this is something that sometimes has happened over the course inclusionary history men have been favored by the process of selection. Not to just like dump all of their resources with wild abandon into any child that's there but instead instead to just sort of be sensitive to cues of relatedness so some cues that men might use as a means of assessing relatedness to a biological. The child of theirs is the behavior of their partner right. Is there a partner somebody who has a reputation of not being faithful if so maybe they would invest lesson allison child that she has. Because you know there's a higher probability that the child is not biologically related to him given partners pass behavior another cue is the actual physical appearance of the child. I'm this is the research that you were alluding to. And this is this idea that men may sort of unconsciously Q. into to physical similarity between themselves and their children and then may invest more heavily in children that are more certainly related to themselves so children who look pheno typically more similar to themselves. They may invest more heavily in Ben Children who do not feel typically resemble them and there's been then a couple of different studies now that found this to be true whether looking at it cross-section only and actually looking at dads and moms and then their physical resemblance to their children. An and these studies find that fathers and children report more emotional closeness to one another when they resemble each other more than they do when they resemble each other less us and that you don't find this pattern for moms and their children but they've also done it experimentally where they've actually taken faces of babies and then morphed morphed in his own face into the face of the baby and then shown you know men these pictures of these babies and then asking them. Which one would you like to adopt opt to which one would you like to invest in and so on and so forth and men overwhelmingly favor the baby that has had their own face morphed into the photographs so at the baby she kind of looks like them whereas women don't show that same bias women are they sort of pick at random which baby obey like the best which just goes to show that men's brains are Kinda cued dude in to sort of similarity in the face of children in that this might sort of allow them to sort of let off the brakes in terms of investment investing more heavily in children trend? That are more certainly. There's yeah wow this is interesting another fascinating little tip. It was that men's testosterone levels. Go Up and down these seemingly fickle ways so you you mentioned that if we see some women or our team wins in sports or politics or were around weapons that are testosterone levels. Go Up and that's funny. I'm thinking like okay so on the way out next time I'm going to vote watch basketball game and then polished my rifle. I don't know like This without him I saw exactly. Yeah Stop by Strip club and then Polish the rifles. I don't know you got to get out of work. The women in there somehow. Yeah it seems really funny because it's so obvious somehow right it's such a blunt instrument seemingly like. Oh you guys are so simple all you need to do is see some within go see a sports game or beat someone on some other way and then like shoot something I mean that just checks out at every level. Well it's so funny because women are always pegged as being sort of the fickle unpredictable dictate ones because our sex hormones change. Cyclically and women's sex hormones do change cyclically when they're naturally cycling with estrogen being the dominant sex hormone in the first half of the cycle. So usually you know. Between Days Zero in Dade fourteen or so estrogen dominant. And then at the second half of the cycle progesterone a strong dominant and And so we always get you know historically. We were treated very badly because of seeing that you couldn't predict what women were going to do because our sex hormones were changing all the time but the point with testosterone. That I make in the book is like you know women's sex hormones do change cyclically but they're not capricious and fickle at all. They're actually incredibly predictable. Well if you tell me a woman's age and the first day of her last menstrual cycle I can predict with a remarkable degree of accuracy. Exactly what's going on with her sex hormones but but for men with testosterone a totally different totally different bogging right. It's like the wild west men surround levels. Change all the time and like you were saying change if you see a beautiful woman. They'll increase increase after a sports win. It'll decrease after sport loss. It'll increase after your team wins. It will decrease after your team loses. If your political candidate wins it will go up. And it also changes in response to being partnered in having children in both of those contexts it actually decreases says right and we tend to think about our changing sex hormones is being something that makes us irrational and fickle and we can kind of laugh about it you know when we think about these things with men and and the presence of guns but the idea there are. Sex Hormones are responding dynamically to for women you know. These internal cues of conception risk and with men in response to things that sort of increase or decrease the benefits that are associated with investing effort in mating related pursuits. I mean our hormones are brilliant and they actually lead us to behave in these ways at a really functional given our environmental and our bodily contact. Hi Extend so with men. You know their testosterone for example it decreases when they have children and when they get married because those are context in which is not beneficial to most men to be like distracted by attractive. Their next door neighbor is during those times they need to be reading. Goodnight moon an and changing diapers..
"sarah hill" Discussed on The Jordan Harbinger Show
"Join us and you'll be in great company in the meantime. Here's Dr Sarah Hill. The pill changes changes us because it changes the version of our personality that we express. And it's funny. How obvious that sort of seems to be after having read it but then when you think about the birth control pill I don't take Veasley but I would say that most people who take it think it's which is your ovaries off? I'm good. It just does something down there. And we're all said we don't think this changes my entire body's hormone profile therefore all my behavior therefore my personality therefore all of the things that make me or if I'm taking the birth control poetry never have if I'm a female taking this all the things that make me me are now getting like the dials are coming in and getting messed up by some. We're not necessarily cognizant of that right right I actually You know a psychologist and I've spent my career studying women and even studying the effects of women sex hormones on motivation and who they're attracted to you know their sense of self. I still had a blind spot with the birth control pill I still I was on it for more within a decade and during that time I was studying women and the things that make them tick including their hormones and I never put into together. which was you know really embarrassing embarrassing? Sort of place to be but I think it goes to show that you know for many of us. We just don't really think about it because we're taking it for this one set of reasons we we never think about the fact that Oh yeah I'm taking sex hormones and sex hormones have their fingers in so many pots in the body that they're going to be influencing saying you know systems ranging from our circulatory system to our immune system and a hugely our brain. Because there's probably no place in the body that has more receptors for sex hormones than the brain. That of course makes sense. And I know that you're telling your own story through the book which I think is kind of cool brave thing to do. A lot of this is a medical tax but a lot of books about this stuff I don't know what it is but sometimes the authors like I don't WanNa talk about my own stuff. It's a little too vulnerable. Let me speak in. These sort of weird generalities it. It makes it harder to relate to it as a man reading a book about Birth Control and female sex hormones. It's already a little tough for me to kind of put myself in those shoes so I appreciated the way that you wrote that in the way that you really open about all that. There's a piece in the beginning where you say. Look I went off the pill. I suddenly had more energy. I started doing more hobbies things things. You had probably abandoned a few years before you felt more alive and you said it was like walking out of black and white into color or something along those lines and I thought wow. That's that is a really really dramatic difference. It's not just like Oh. I'm sort of more cheerful. And I WANNA go out more. It's like a completely different way of looking at the world. Yeah it really felt that way. I felt like I woke up and it was sort of funny because it was about three or so months after I had gone off of the pill and I was in the car. I still remember this moment it because over the course of that three months I had sort of begun to feel like I had more energy and things just seem more exciting life just felt exciting. Felt like there was an opportunity. Unity kind of you know around any corner and I just felt energized and alive and again you know it was like as I wrote in the book. I started exercising again Dan. I was noticing men and it was just like I just felt invigorated and I thought that I had out grown those things you know I went on the pill you the end of high school early college and you know during that time. Of course your life is changing in a lot of different ways. And I had assumed that I was sort of maturing out it of exercise or maturing out of noticing men or maturing out of you know having energy and just kind of feeling spunky and then you know flash forward three months after going off of it after I had been on it for more than a decade I was in the car with my husband and we were driving home from dinner and I remember in again. This is after I had sort of had this experience of you know kind of listening to music again and going to the gym again and I remember it looked looked over at him and I said I feel like getting into trouble. He was like what does that mean. I said I I have no idea. That's funny so it's almost like you've got younger and also he was probably like this is the best night of my life. Let's tear it up like I don't know what you have in mind but let's go into all of those things it was. It was like I felt like myself again like this person that was before you know and again I thought that I'd just matured. Churn out of these things that I just you know no longer felt it necessary to listen to music or to go to the gym or to feel sort of Feminine Feminine and sexy and like in tune with this sort of those parts of my personality and then to have it all back it just really sort of changed my view of things things especially my view of you know the birth control pill that I was on yeah man. That's just putting myself in his shoes for a second. He's that's a lot of pressure like you're driving home. You're kind kind of full. You know really sure what's going to happen. You're looking for to climbing in bed and your wife's like hey once in a lifetime. Chance to probably get me to do something that I should know better than to do. And he's like well. Let's go to starbucks. It's an coffee. It's GonNa be a long night. Yeah that's really funny and you hear things. This is outside of what you've written outside of. It stopped me here but I see friends of mine. Who Take Testosterone replacement therapy right? They're getting these shots either because of a medical issue or because they're fifty five and they have income that they're happy to part with it and they kind of report the same thing it's like college college again or it's like my late twenties again. I mean they're just really really different people and they're like yeah. I think I want to get into boxing. Who are you? You played bridge last week and now now you WANNA start boxing. Who who are you so it does change so much about you? And we don't think of the birth control pill as kind of the anabolic steroids. for women in a way I know that's not an exact comparison but it's got to be somewhat act right. Yeah and it's so funny that you said this. I actually just had a conversation today with a friend of mine. Who's WHO's a man who's on testosterone therapy and he's Edwin? He was reading my book. He felt exactly the same way. That's just really funny that I just had this conversation and not more than two hours ago so with the pill is almost in some ways you can think of it as being like the anti to saas thrown therapy because essentially what is doing is suppressing women's sex hormones right so it's like suppressing their levels of estrogen progesterone and also in a huge way testosterone. It's sort of almost like being a fifty five year old man and wanted to play bridge and so you know we have these generations of women in their twenties. Who are doing this and so for me? I felt like I think very similar to what it feels like for men when they're doing testosterone therapy and they're being reintroduced to their sex hormones because it's like our sex hormones are part of what gives us you know are sort of Joie de Vive. It's part of what makes life exciting and it sort of makes them You know turns the volume up and makes our whites whiter and our bright's brighter in terms of our sort of experience that the world right walking out of black and white and into color in the note that I'll put on this and I think you did put this in the book but Anabolic Steroids. You can't just roll into a pharmacy or go online while you can go online of course but you can't go on Amazon. There's some pharmacy website and be like. Oh I'm GONNA grab a bunch of this stuff for like hey. My friend told me that he's doing it so I'm just GonNa go grab some of these. I mean you're injecting news. They're super controlled. They're highly illegal without a prescription in the birth control pill I mean there are fourteen year old girls. Whose moms like yeah? I don't know I can't keep an eye all the time. So let's just go get this crazy life brain altering drug and give it to her in the middle of this time in her life when her brain is changing her preferences are changing her bodies changing. But no let's like Medicaid her every single day of this artificial stuff like what could go wrong. Yeah exactly yeah I mean there really. Is You know we've been really cavalier with women's women's hormones in a way that we haven't with men's and you're right it's like it's very well illustrated by this sort of paradox. You know where it's men are not allowed to be on anabolic golic steroids for a long period of time. And they're illegal so that way men won't use them anyway and with women. Yeah we start them very young sometimes when they're like fourteen or fifteen and sometimes it has nothing to do with even sex pregnancy prevention. You know in some cases because pregnancy prevention is so important portent in terms of women's ability to advance themselves in sort of stay out of the poor house. You know I can understand even in some cases if there's young girls who are engaging in a lot of sexual behavior and they're not being careful that in some cases it's still might make sense to give them the birth control pill while their brain is still developing being but most often what I see. As being the case with these young adolescent women is that they're going on the birth control pill for reasons that are far less sort of consequential quench in terms of the big picture so these women are going on it for things like clearing up their skin or trying to quote unquote regulate their cycle or trying into make their menstrual cramps. Less painful and you know in some cases with all of the information being out there might still be the choice that women make. But I think that it's you know goes to illustrate. Oh straight that we've been really really cavalier about this sort of idea that we should change a person's personality and who they are and their experiences the world so that way. They don't have menstrual cramps. That if we'd like actually like think about what hormones do and we'd like started. Take our blinders off to it. We might be gin to Sort of treat this as a serious issue because this is a big deal it is and it's a little scary. I when I was in college I had a bunch of athlete friends and some of them were using zing. Antibodies steroids and things like that and I remember hanging out with them and being like guys you know you gotta take this serious. And they're like we do we research online. Look our friend. So and so. He's the guy gives them to us knows all this stuff about it and I met that guy bear mind. This is a drug dealer okay. And he goes. Yeah you know I will only let these guys stay on it for six weeks at a time or depending on the other stuff ten weeks at a time. That's all they can do for the next six months to a year really depends bloodmarkers. I'm like this is a drug dealer university. WHO's doing this? But no if you you want the female variation you just go. Yeah you know I'm a little crappy and they're like here's a pill that will take forever and you know what kind of side effects I don't know. Let me know if you have any other weird side effects like. I don't know you get massively depressed. All these things that can happen. And there's something wrong with local drug dealers. Still Steroids to the football players at some university is more careful. Well then the doctors dishing out birth control pills like there's a big problem here. Yeah no and it goes to show you like just how disconnected. We are from what the pill is really doing to. You know what it's being prescribed for its. I think that we've all sort of had as a culture. This like major blindspot because doctors are prescribing. This and you know. I think that most doctors aren't terrible people and that they you know our care about the welfare of their patients but this idea that will give women when they're especially when they're young and their brains brains are still developing and sex hormones in addition to you know sort of the day to day things that they do when you're a grown up in terms of like sort of fueling sexual desire and you're sort of feelings of being alive and other things they also are like the head contractors in the remodeling project that goes on in your brain after puberty. So you know. We don't yet know from research whether or not taking the birth control pill during times like Post Piero brain development time which is still going on in pretty pretty full effect. Until you're you know like nineteen or twenty we don't yet know whether or not the birth control pill is influencing the way that women's brains are being organized and there's almost no research on this and so you know when doctors will give this to these young girls whose brains are still developing and we don't know whether or not this has any impact act on the way that their brains are being laid out and then allowing them to stay on it for in some cases I mean now I've met women who've been on it for twenty years is without stopping at all and there's no research on that either. It's like nobody's really stopped to ask the questions in. So you know part of what what I wanted to do with this book in addition just highlighting you know sort of what we know we don't know is just you know sort of wake everybody up to this blind spot because I think it has been. I mean the fact that I studied hormones and women's motivational systems for years and yet was on the pill and never put together. And I'm not a completed. I mean you know I have my moments of being you know having my head in the clouds but you know I should have made this connection. I think that there's a lot of us who just haven't done that yet..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"The hormonal I you d Those hormones once they're in your body they all go to the same place And the thing is in the book in the and that place is everywhere. The places everywhere. Blood travels Because that's how hormones work there there you can think of hormones is being like the bodies broadcast. PA system right. It's like they're like a loudspeaker they get Once they're in the body they go into the bloodstream and what they do they go every place that blood travels. And then if there's a hormone receptor cell in that area of the body it's GonNa get picked up in red. I'm it's GonNa Change what the cells are doing in that part of the body. And so you can't you know in you can't use for example a hormonal iud and then only habit acting locally on The ovaries which by the way a number of women. I can't even tell you the number of women that I've spoken with Who've had the experience in having their doctors tell them that either the hormonal IUD or the vaginal ring that died dot? They wouldn't have as many you know quote unquote side effects Because they're acting locally. That's before what I mean. It's just like it's like basic physiology. It just doesn't work that way. It absolutely doesn't work that way. The the hormones will travel everywhere. That blood goes in the mechanism for action. Action again with hormonal. Contraceptives is the brain. Because it's telling the hypothalamus. which is the part of the brain that regulates our menstrual cycles? It's telling the hypothalamus like Hey There isn't you know well the message. Sending is sort of similar to the hormonal message that our body gets during the second half or the Ludi phase of the menstrual cycle which is having a relatively high level of progesterone relative to estrogen the birth control. Pill we'll works by administering these synthetic progestin at a level that's higher than estrogen. So that gets read by the hypothalamus Thomas as like. Oh there's an egg that has been released and we're just waiting to see whether or not we're pregnant right now and when the brain gets that message it doesn't stimulate the ovaries to release a new egg. 'cause they're waiting and seeing you know to see whether or not this egg that was just released is going to get fertilized and so when you take the birth control pill and you get this study does of hormones. That's the message that your brain is receiving like don't stimulate ovulation because there's an egg that's out there or that. Were waiting to see what happens with And so that the mechanism of action for the pill in terms of shutting down ovulation. Is The hypothalamus in the brain. And so the I dea that somehow by some magical process right If you use a vaginal ring or a hormonal. Ud that the messages his own being read by the ovaries or the Or the uterus is absurd and because that's just not how hormones work I mean like. I said they're the broadcast. PA VA system. There are like radio you know like once they're in the body are everywhere. You can't You know you can't you can't target those facts in this means means that you know when we take the birth control pill we need to be aware of the fact that it's going to be influencing every single one of our body systems that are influenced by sex sex hormones and the thing that women you know we don't spend a lot of time thinking about but it's actually it's it's what makes us so amazing Is that So many systems in our body like I can't think of one off the top of my head that isn't sensitive to different levels sales of sex hormones and the reason for this is because almost every system in our body has required a work around for pregnancy like for example our circulatory system when we're pregnant has to do a whole host of different things in a dozen were not pregnant. Our immune system has to do a whole host of different things more report and compared to or not pregnant our digestive system. I mean I could go on an honor circulatory lobby Blah right and because of this so many of our body systems. Those are sensitive to levels of sex hormones because they had to have been. It's like our body is able to do all of the amazing things that it can do. I'm including like creating creating people pretty awesome. You know I'm pretty awesome thing to be able to do but it also means that. A most of our bodies systems are sensitive. Ah levels of sex hormones and so when you're changing a woman's profile of sex hormones like we do with the birth control pill I mean it's just has absolutely pervasive effects on the body and they're not like all horrible and scary. It's not like that. It's not like making somebody so different that they don't recognize themselves themselves at all But it does change women in so we need to get. We need to take it seriously right which is so crazy. Going back to what you said before is like we shouldn't have to attain an advanced degree in order to understand our bodies but if someone doesn't have an advanced degree in human physiology or nutrition or anything like this and then they go to their OBGYN and they say okay. Well if you get you know the copper IUD or if you get the hormonal monae ud or the vaginal ring any of these things. It's better because it's localized to your uterus. And you're not going to experience as many side effects. The people take that at face value. Because if you're going to your doctor and your doctor says one thing why would I not believe this. You know it's so tough. Yeah it is so tough I I just think that it's I think it's a I think. A tragedy I mean I think this is like a different soapbox Is related to them. Look but it's also. I know that it's something that you're very passionate about two. It's like I don't think it's like our in our country. We have so many people who are so sick you know. And and and and they're they're not healthy and You know in there because you're not eating right and not like I don't know how to care for our bodies because we're taught absolutely nothing about how they work and because of this is like we're rely we have to rely on. The pharmaceutical company is right to be telling us how to take care of our bodies as because we don't understand basic You know sort of physiological processes in the body and I say this from an absolute position -sition privilege because I haven't you know appeal and I was able to learn all these nets terrible that this isn't like basic education. I mean I think and one of the things I'm very passionate about is educating people about the design of the body in the design of the mind cause I think when we understand how we work we take better care of ourselves and I think that it's not that we don't teach this stuff you know like basic nutrition basic physiology how the brain communicates indicates with itself and the rest of the body To people starting really early mccamley swap out some of those history from those history classes or something or visit. I mean I don't know but I I really think that we would all be so much like it would improve our wellbeing and improve our health all so much if we just were taught how we work and why we work that way so that way we were able to make more informed sort of thoughtful decisions about what is that we're doing with our bodies yeah definitely There's definitely some space in there to move things around. I don't know about you but from probably primary school all the way through high school every single year. We had American history to the point where you could probably recite the things that we he had been taught because we were taught the same thing so many times over. It's like okay. We understand that history is important and we need to talk about all these things but at the same time. We're talking about the same thing so many times that. Why don't we just insert one of these glasses there so we can take things that are going to be more pertinent to our everyday lives and taking taking care of ourselves in our health then just these kind of abstract ideas that we're learning about continuously? Yeah I know right like I totally get the whole the thing about you know if you don't learn history than you'll repeat it or whatever but totally trunk eight that into a much shorter sequence than what it is and make room for some dislike basic education on basic health education. Like how you work. How your brain works? How systems work so that way we can become released smart consumers You know an MBA. Able to take maximal care of our bodies because I do really You know I didn't learn about even how my menstrual cycle worked. And and the way that you know my hormones changed over the cycle and that it was really only fertile. Oh for maybe five days during the summer. I didn't learn any of this. I'm in the role that the different sex hormones that have play in terms of my psychological functioning and how I think how I I feel like what I do. How attractive to men all these other things? I didn't learn about any of this stuff until I was in graduate school. I was just GonNa say I don't think I did either until I was in Grad School. uh-huh yeah and so I really Part of the book in since since you know you read it you know like the you know the first couple. Ebola chapters of the book are just really introducing women to the way that their bodies in their hormones work to create the experiences of being who they are in trying to bridge back gap in give Because I think all women should have this information about about how they work. Because I think that if you don't have that it it does make it difficult for you to really make informed decisions about about what to do. You're at the mercy of your doctor to be telling you what you should be doing without having all of the without having all the facts and so I really wanted to get this information out to women and So that way they're able to be in control and be somebody who's like a co-pilot in along with their doctor in decisions about what they're going to be doing for fertility regulation because right now women are you know more or less at the mercy of what their doctors telling them and if their doctor is an informed about in particular the psychological affects the pill. Women just have to you know. Listen to what their doctors is telling them and not be able to even explain what's happening inning with themselves right. And then what makes this even more complicated is that. The pill is not one-size-fits-all like no form of birth control is one-size-fits-all and I really liked how you gave a lot of different examples in the book of how one pill or method of birth control can affect people in many any different ways so like the one that you were taking for a really long time. was you know until you kind of have this awakening. It seemed pretty fine. You know like no huge extreme side effects or anything thing but then when your friend went on she basically had like psychotic trip. Yeah Yeah and and that's exactly I mean that's the thing right. Is that Hormones Jones because they influence every cell in your body that has receptors for those hormones. When you take it it's like a flip a billion switches on and off in your body body And each one of us because our body chemistry is different. The number of hormone receptors that we have different on the Hor- our existing hormonal profiles vials different or neurotransmitters is there's so many ways that we differ from one another and the science isn't in a good place yet where we can make good predictions about which which individual women are going to respond which way to which formulation of the birth control pill and because of this when you go on the pill because it's switching a billion in different switches on and off throughout your body And the way that those which is get flipped is a little bit idiosyncratic from person to person You really have to to become an expert in your own experiences. Entrust your own experiences and know that even if they aren't written on on the you know the prescription label that that they're real for you and yet one of the examples. They gave him the book to illustrate. Just how radio syncretic this whole process of finding the right birth control pill is is on the pill that I was on After I had my after I had my son And I loved it was great I felt I felt you know like I said when I went off of it I felt more alive and more vibrant and everything else but I had no problem along with this pill that I was on in In it didn't affect my moods negatively or anything else But a good friend of mine went on the same pill And and she had a psychotic episode. She ended up in the emergency room because she was asking people if she could cut them open to see if they were real because she thought everybody was an imposter. I mean it was really crazy. Thing that happened and The doctors actors in the Er couldn't figure out what the problem was and so finally. They just told her because she had just started this new he'll regiment and the doctor was like I don't think it's your breath Nicole Talbot. Why didn't you stop taking it? And just see what happens and then sure enough..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Real Talk with Dana | Nutrition, Health
"I'm your host Dana Montes piece of real food with Sina nutritionists and body image coach teaching women how to heal their relationship with food and their bodies ditch the Diet cycle for good. And truly thrive thrive with real food one delicious meal at a time. Welcome back to the real talk doc. Latina podcast episode ninety seven. And we're digging into the science today so on today's episode. We have Dr Sarah Hill. Who is a research psychologist adjust and professor specializing in health relationships and other forms of social behavior through the Lens of evolutionary science? She's also the author of this. Is Your brain on birth control. Will which is the topic of today's discussion. So we're GONNA be talking about how birth control not only changes. How your hormones working your whole body but how it changes who you are as a person how it also changes your brain and your stress response in major ways and why this matters so one of my major takeaways from Dr Dr Sarah's book and today's podcast women on the pill are missing a key feature of their stress response so we are discussing how this impacts things like adrenal fatigue? Because I know you guys are super into that as I am to how it impacts learning and memory and anxiety and depression and interestingly enough despite what you might be thinking this is not actually a scare tactic book to freak you out from taking any kind of hormonal birth control instead. It's really a book. That's designed to empower you with the tools to understand how this medication actually works in your body what it can do to your body how to understand.
"sarah hill" Discussed on Clear+Vivid with Alan Alda
"This has been clear and vivid. At least i hope so my thanks to discovery for being are presenting sponsor this season all the income from the ads you here go to the center for we're communicating science at stony brook university just by listening to this podcast. You're contributing to the better communication of science so thank you for more information about the oldest center. Please visit all the center dot org. Henry slights had career as a writer producer in media executive aviv and written material for saturday night live through it. All henry is always focused on making an impact oath with storytelling and with the the people who work with them and as far as i can tell he has a lot of fun doing it. This episode was produced by ram chedda with help from our associate producer through sarah shades are sound engineer is dan zula are tech. Guru is alison costume and our publicness to sarah hill. You can subscribe ascribe to our podcast for free at apple podcasts stitcher more wherever you like to listen for more details about clear and vivid into into sign up for my newsletter please visit alan alda dot com you can also find us on facebook and instagram at clear in vivid and i'm on twitter twitter and alan alda. Thanks for listening. I be sure conversation with catherine heyhoe and she gives us real solutions next time on clear and vivid uh-huh..
"sarah hill" Discussed on WMAL 630AM
"I'm John Batchelor. This is the John Batchelor show. Daniel Blake's this rich story. This is the story in between the presidential bits in between the wars. You know, we have the revolutionary war the war of eighteen twelve and they all all the trouble with the Barbary pirates. And then we're off to the Mexican war in the eighteen forties. And then the civil war wall in between people are raising families, daughters and sons were marrying, and they were moving honestly always looking for opportunities. It's an at the same time they were surrounded by strangers people coming from Europe from New England from the south and they were headed west or they were headed to a new place. I'm I noted at one point one of the sons of Jesse Fletcher's goes to New Orleans and dies of dies of the fever. So the where they were going was dangerous, but they kept going and in particular Tucson's sons Alishan Calvin have voluminous correspondence with. Between between themselves between themselves and their siblings and with their dad Jesse. So we're headed across the Allegheny mountains with Calvin who's now seventeen nineteen years old. And he and he lands in Cincinnati, and he pushes onto her Bana many of these decisions he makes pretty much is on his is on the basis of his traveling partners. Daniel I got the feeling that this was this was a pinball bouncing around in in America. Yeah. It was very much a week. At a prayer reminds me a Miller deficit. She shiner smile except. He didn't really have this shoes. He was pretty penny. Listen, probably didn't did a lot of traveling barefooted. But now he finds himself inner Banda because of quite frankly, a travelling companions who helped put the Bill for them. Ironically, his last name was foot foot the Bill to get there with many way wanted help. And so he settles in of where he stays in a dirty tavern. And decides to take on working at an academy like his older brother in Virginia teaching school? And there's where he very formative person in his life of James Cooley. Who was a well known attorney in that area who seems to pretty much have adopted Calvin. Yeah. Like, he he, you know, back there people read the law there were some law schools, but not really that many especially out west. And so you read law informed believed to be able to hang up a shingle as a lawyer. Calvin is maintaining correspondence with his dad the same way Elijah as an with Elisha just Calvin evidence that depression that anxiety that is that his father does. Well, I don't know if I call it depression, but he's he's an anxious, man. He's very much different from from lies. You who ended up having a kind of a detached serenity about what he had done. I think Calvin was a man on the make man on the move. And when you're when you're trying to find opportunity, and especially when the opportunities are not happening, very, very swift actively early on, and they certainly worked for him, you can easily get worried, and I think she he evidence that he was I mean, he was he was trying to make it in the world. And that meant socially figure out these people out west who behave differently Routier people try to make he met this young fifteen year old girl named Sarah hill who was in the academy where he was teaching again like what happened with Elisa. Who met Maria? Same kind of thing and that spark which was based in part on her thinking of. Maternally towards this admittedly over boy who seemed to be so caught up in trying to make it and being serious about everything. And he could not really kind of enjoy the moment. But boy, he was trying to milk the moment for whatever he could he he he chooses to join a debating society Bonner he corresponds to deal, but there's an episode here. That's very strange down. This is between when he decides he's going to marry although he's greatly anxious about it. And he does marry may I eighteen twenty one. There's an episode in here where he's accused of being the father of a black an African African American a black servant girl. I I take it. She wasn't a slave. I couldn't tell but there was no slavery in Ohio at this point. So I doubt it name Christie. He was accused of being the father was not true. He says, and he pursues her because she's made this allegation and disappeared. And then when he finds her he beats her in order to get her to confess, it's a very strange episode. Very disturbing to me. It's more. Based on what happens to the rest of his life. It's more implem-. Attic of a kind of misogyny of the way, he looked down sometimes on on the thirtieth. Did I consider young girls equal of him, especially someone who who's not educated and less, obviously, what it might seem to be which is an act of utter racism because he he became a strikingly effective abolitionist. It had never shown any kind of racist. Right with that episode behind him. I can I see the transformation all the whole country was going through this transformation. Which is why your story is so convincing because this is eighteen twenty one. And that's that's a moment where we're moving from the first compromise to the second compromise to the war. Exactly. And Calvin part of that. All right. He and Sarah, Mary, but they decide they're not gonna live in urban. They're going to leave her family. They're gonna leave James Cooley and head to Indianapolis, which doesn't exist. How do they make this decision? It existed on paper. And after all, that's the guy who had his wagon to the future. Even if in this case the future was technically not quite existence, but he was going to be the new state capital. And by the time, they got there there were about five hundred people living in in Indianapolis. But yes, it was in a way it was very smart. He thought I need a bigger stage where I can be there as part of the four hundred years in in making this a bigger stage. And let's let's this is going to be the capital of of this new in Indiana. And which was the first west and somebody called it. But that's what it was. And then and they they suffer through the first few years, but it turned out to be a smart move. Because he he did get in contact with a lot of well known on the matrix, lawyers and other prominent people coming to Indianapolis, and he I wanna see store with rich. But he's he's found a very good launching pad for his. For himself and his reputation and his career. Well, they were the first there along with the first settlers in what happens to the American northwest. West is that the immigrants are showing up the immigration makes Indiana and makes the Illinois. This is the time ABRAHAM LINCOLN in eighteen twenty three would have been fourteen years old. So this is this is one generation about half a generation ahead of ABRAHAM LINCOLN who goes through this same move from Kentucky to Indiana to Illinois. That is that his father went through law. Always looking for better land or a way out of debt and illiteracy and Jesse was not Calvin was not self taught as ABRAHAM LINCOLN was and yet he very much the local lawyer who rides circuit and he rides circuit. While Sarah is having the first and second of his sons, he's very lucky in his sons, James Cooley is born April. Eighteen twenty three. And I think the second son. Elijah is born eighteen twenty four while he's away. So those sons we're going to follow them because they become the generation before the civil war and their education has everything to Calvin. However, he takes an eighty two day trip round trip in eighteen twenty four to visit his father. Why does he do that? Dan. I think unlike allies you're Calvin really had regrets about having just picked up and left, and he didn't leave as part of a plant. He left out of desperation. And and it hurt him to know that his father had not stopped him. In fact, I said just go on. Not because he thought this is great for his career or something. But because you know, he had. And I think he wanted to he felt bad about it. But not not remorseful. If you give meaning and he wanted to see the the the mansion if you've talked the homeland Ludlow one more time, I think he missed those connections because he had so abreast abruptly left them, whereas allies, you said that much more carefully planned for grip and showmanship. I've come back. I'm successful. Look at me. Back to Elisha. This is now the eighteen twenties, and I mentioned that Calvin on his way to and from visiting Ludlow pass through the newborn Erie canal, Dan's book is a time machine. You get to take glimpses of America as it's recreating itself at played against the backdrop of this family competition regret, which is the Fletchers back to Elisha Elijah's doing very well. He's buying farmland. He's investing his father-in-law's left everything to his father laws. Departed Elijah is a comfortable planter, very, comfortable marie-antoinette. However seems distant they have they have two sons, Sydney and Lucien and then two girls was they're falling out in the marriage. Is that why she wanted to live in the big city, and he stayed on the on the farm Malaysia. Yeah. I think this is one of those unspoken quiet separations that certainly not legal. They were not divorce or anything like that. But like I'll I'll hear it. I'll live here in Tuscaloosa, and you go out and visit family spent time in Louisville and some other places where you feel more comfortable. And so that's kind of the unspoken agreement they seem to have fashioned between them. So I guess you could say it worked for them. Happy with it. When did he acquire sweet briar, which is now the college sweet briar? Well, I think there was in the eighteen thirties. He bought it. And he kept buying land and expanding and so we had several plantations and his slave count. I think you said it started at fifty when he inherited everything by the time. His son Sydney comes along who is very well educated. But decides to become a farmer Sydney comes home. They have one hundred and fifteen slaves was that a big slaveholding in the eighteen thirties. Eighteen forties. Certainly the fifty wasn't one hundred fifteen would be considered considered moderate probably thirty wasn't an enormous. But he had he was well-to-do man and have gotten into printing as a printer owned the Virginian, right? That was the newspaper paper. Yeah. But he typically was interested in because you could make money you're not so much because he was a big. I was glad to see that he was against Andrew Jackson. I that made me like him a lot. Well, even Calvin was against. Jackson Jackson made enemies of the Fletchers Jackson. The thing of Jefferson and just to be fair minded, he doesn't think anything of Jackson news about as far away from Jeff Jefferson as you can get well. Elijah's prosperity comes to him natural. He wears it easily. And he then sends money to Jesse his father. He's he's taking care of his family from long distance. That's that's his role. He he takes. He's he it's as if he's the the Potter familiar to the family, even though his father still alive. Yeah. He did do that. And I think that's how he saved the wounded must've hurt here. Most of which has that he never went back to visit really until much later. He didn't make any early trips back the way that Calvin had done and. I guess he thought since he had been sent out more than he just took off even sit out from the family to engage in this teaching expedition that and then because he knew so heartfelt terms how depressed and sad and and failing as a financial person his father was..
"sarah hill" Discussed on Harmontown
"Drunk priest like cable, like basic cable or free public access Christianity show that could be something and I'm pitching it. Next week you may Brandon. We're going to Netflix. Also they have so. So no back end you'll be debating in no back, get back in, but let's not talk about that. I got. Thank you so much to Nova for stopping by. Yes. To exit. They love to have your, I'm not picking on you. I, I'm going to say this to everyone who is on stage as we wind down here at Harvard town. One more time for Nova. What a star. You will be the next contestant up to leave the stage. Thank you. You look like a million fucking dollars. Police, say a huge. Thank you too. Jean Charles said, I j. Rapid Franch folks. You come to town. He'll take what he's taking. He's picking it up mental, go behind us, man. Up stage in our book. He was so so European about he lifted book. I'm going to go around and pick it up. Now he pulls out the gun. Excellent. I'm sorry. The entire European Union is also sliding fascist. But see how I mean, right. That phrase is taking on a new hopeful hopeful to you too. Don't you have like Hitler down their heads and, oh, all of us every every continent across the planet. Boy, what have we ever seen that happen right before, what. Either one. You so much. The Australian gut knows mckeever Chris four, Sarah hill, Fabrica Brandon Johnson, we Davis good night's. Thank you. The lovely time theater church. We love you could night. Gouda show.
"sarah hill" Discussed on This is Rammy - the podcast about Ramsbottom, its residents and businesses.
"On the podcast this week I have got a local resident who took her passion for swimming and turned into her own business. In fact she even built her realm pool is Rami. Your locally produced weekly podcast bringing news and interviews and information from awesome possum hosting hello hello and welcome to another episode road of this is Romney if you've not heard of it before. This is a podcast where I talked to local businesses local residents. Sometimes I talk about the local news in ramsbottom awesome our local area. I have been doing this for a few years now. This is episode one hundred and eight where I speak to local resident Sarah Hill who took a passion for swimming she learned a new way of swimming became a trainer and he basically took the plunge into making her own business. Sarah Hill is the owner swimmingly and his interview. I did with her late last year. This is probably going to be my first interview in this next so I am here with Sarah Hill and you are around awesome resident. Let's stop wiser pulling your adviser to my good question and dependent Mike because I run a small business from Michael swimmingly which provides long one swimming lessons and coaching for primarily adults but we do have some slots for Children School Age unfor- Preschool Children's and how is it different it was different because of the WHO is quite small. It's only about five meters by three exactly but it's around that and it has a she could fast line in one end which San Sapone of water down the pool so into kind of some treadmill so you can swim in place without actually going anywhere and it you could change speed so you can have it for children's speed or you can have really really fast triads long kind of speed so it sits at the rank mark what your background is women well. My background is is is just as a swimmer. I've never done soon metal works in profession into the Muskie careers and I've always been synonymous enjoyed swimming and over nine years ago. I decided I wanted to swim further than I could. At the time I was Vice Dr splashing out breath very quickly which is very very common story and I never had some lessons other than the schools was all kinds of made up and so when I discovered a swimming technical type immersion which by the ninth suggested pool underneath nursing strike two way it's more aww approach to swimming bits without signing like a hippy kind of mind full Senate immersing yourself in swimming and it's not just moving down the pool is really thinking swimming in a different way so I went down to love bre which was the nearest coach could find and spent three days learn this technique well three days a period of time down three times to learn this technique and have to be honest totally transformed my life that sounds dramatic attic but it did enable me to swim farther than I thought I could much more easily than I ever thought and to enjoy do you think tank and since then I've started doing coaching for open water on my thing is I want to post in particular night the promoter so doing long distance open water marathon swims promoter and Saudi coaching and Elton Reservoir getting down there on a cheese day join a SUMO L. Try Mike Cook and then I realized it was nobody else in this area tall offering touch emotion Sunni teaching and coaching so we're trying to see how much beginning last year eh and fails to find something pool to rent so ended up deciding well. What the hell let's just so? That's what we did very long story. Short awards controllability actually built in a swap sky but you'd never know now looking at it because it is consignment salary this fab. It's an ability as you very. You're very well situated as well. You're not far from center around till now just from town yeah so it's it's an ideal location so you did open worlds like after like in Greece I I think the thing that they've asked us possibly so fashion channel swimmers you wouldn't if he did a rating also makes it's Kinda move you can stocky chafing dry pleasant changing channel but he's moved on these days is not so much. Actually I never was the fish was and now jim primary likes the swimming that the people do these. There's a lot of people do you are listening to the kind of city now. I'd prefer today's is long legs wins and we melted as far as some all set across across contributing wherever there's a lake swimming and some people are wack saints lost people don't is personal choice really waxy makes it more buoyant so it's assigning easier and it's not is it. It's it's appropriate experience not that. When isn't this stiffen? It's about just really million Jillion fails. which is the way that I've now learned to swim say I'm swimming salted? He's not wasn't enjoyable cold. Well he added the coldest off. It really is leading to remember to breathe when you paint the miniature tenures all breath bridges so tom about a and in Japan. If you something slowly carefully specified some new splashing water put some more the back of your neck just to let you know what's coming and just take it really slowly deep breathing as well from your belly rather checks. That nice relaxed right he approached to that's what went TV just jump in and yeah you get so whether on Joan panels wrong okay it is a war sports build a rough around with by yet. It was in in winter but that's not something needs to do because you nicely home pool in very pie foot. Put looks are very feels Scandinavian. Yes I was thinking very very Scandinavian like solar. She's a lovely building. You've got with you you pool. Let's a bit more about your background less less swimming but how how did you end up implantable and had it under nonstop seven seven neutrons from Iran stalls up before the election from Harrogate feel and moved across ten years ago eleven years ago and just really like trump started sort of looked for because we could see Bali and and eventually decided we should move here Netherland back. I wouldn't change with me science vice and if you to so what did you do before well for Myself Years Project manager and I did not try and inspire used to work for organizations can with a social purpose coop credit unions and so public private partnerships between police and other organizations to kind of facilitate take projects any sense. It's very very excited. Yeah probably need to change now very look at the last few years of effort from south. It's been it's been great but then I just saw this opportunity because there's nobody else in and the coach often Toki meason. I'm coaching in Manchester Lancashire Cheshire. Thank Mr No furthest Knowles suspension North Visit Penrith which is how the around the cone out some did the somebody in the world and then going south. I think it's again. What's what's the situation I mean? Do you know what they built a similar theatrics Samantha News this others just use a manage to hire. Hi were total losses right okay so when you're looking for hiring who was it. Did you have to have this not told that just needed a coin that would tim enabled me to teach people and fewer and far between when when you know they're all book took credit that will help rules the council pools the grandson pool grain. Let me hire that once when it's free and but it's it's a busy city cup snappy thing is practically impossible to spice it and went on to the cost of the pools. I could hire and it just didn't make sense right at this date. Okay I thought it was the worst it doesn't always and so did you look at the cost of a time of life. Uh estimate how many lessons you'll need and of course is so proud and being punked agreement accident. It was one of those things I thought well. Let's just you know and I I was confident because I I know that there's people that who because of the way take it is different and it's a totally different approach to swimming into teaching and I know that there are people there's lots of people that who would welcome up because because swimming is quite a score was quite set in its ways as far as the weights taught and the way people understand how should be taught it hasn't changed years and in years and years. It's never been looked at never been advised never been looked at in light of saw among technology even a path leads and let's face it most of his not it never will be so I go there enough. People who wants to learn to swim while and who haven't gone along with standard tuning teaching and who just want a different branch and hopefully continue to be proved right there are enough people I mean my our clients range from at until adults who are primarily that tells people who terrified anymore why to find his because this is such a common violent people really come on quickly say within a couple of lessons here okay and she's swimming and to what level they want to but you know that they're actually in the water facing wanted which is fabulous and again as life changes people in my struggle the years and years and years and now children there and he wants to sing. I just can't themselves today so we can work out and successfully then we we have a lot of people who are coming back to swimming adults in how had lessons in school and myself you know he just thought my quiet quad to get into this. What do water 'cause? It's growing school finding a lot of people coming you just want to learn and when they find out how we teach h they find it. This is not my expected this very different. I like it and it's easy to the crucial thing and it's not stressful. It's not splashing down pool and exhausted. It's a very different kinds of private and that I have the triathletes lots of them against the growing and Korea Muslim lots of translates around this of all different shapes and sizes it's brilliant and and they because they're used to roam it used to scientists and traffic on your web if united cycling and swimming often in L. Promoter and because that bill for money cycling swim a hater terrifies them really struggle with us when we can do it and then what the aim of the swim for them is to get our filming on K. two top time on whatever distance that is Paris feeding okay at the moment most of the getting our attitudes Austin stress because of the way this would be an hour prior to making out feeding laxed enjoyed it.