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"sarah cooper" Discussed on 10% Happier with Dan Harris
"Kelly Leonard and Anne Libra, who run the second city, their first principle is get off of yourself. Get out of your head, it's not about you. It's about the other people. And there's another principle of comedy that humor exists in the space between the comedian and the audience. So this idea of quelling the ego, getting off of yourself and really thinking about how is this going to make other people feel? Is this connecting or is this distancing and holding that before anything else? It's so true. And you know, a lot of this also is just about being more generous with your laughter. We know from the research that laughing together, shortens the path to connection. So for example, when people laugh before having a conversation, they're actually more likely to disclose personal information. They actually disclose 30% on average, more personal information about themselves. So they feel closer. So there's real benefit to doing that. And again, it's not about you being funny. You can even achieve some of these things by just being more generous with your laughter. It's interesting you said that thing about getting out of your own head, getting out of your own way, getting over yourself. In the process of trying to inject levity into a situation because I can see how that's true and yet when at least for me, on the occasions when I say something that people find funny, I do feel and it go it dopamine release. Totally. Well, you are releasing dopamine. It feels awesome. And it feels awesome for good reason, because not only is it making us feel better, right? It's releasing endorphins, making us feel more energized and able to bounce back more quickly from setbacks, dopamine, lowering your cortisol, but it's also changing other people's perceptions of us. So we know from the research that individuals who use humor effectively at work are viewed by others as significantly higher in status, more confident and more competent. We also know that leaders with a good sense of humor are seen as 27% more motivating by their employees and that those employees report being 15% more engaged at work. And so you are feeling good for good reason. However, if you focus too much on that, if that's the goal, you know, to be funny, then it's the most surefire way to fail. So is the poster child for doing this incorrectly. Michael from the office. Yeah, probably. Yeah, you can see why, right? It's so focused on being funny himself and being seen a certain way rather than how it makes other people feel. Side note, favorite office episode ever, have you guys seen the one where they all go to Michael's house? And he has this TV that's like 12 inches by 12 inches on the wall. It's absolutely hilarious. We should all go watch it later. And so Lee eisenberg, who is a guest in our class who's a writer for The Office. He talked about how that was one of their favorite episodes to film, but it took them like three times the normal episode link 'cause they could not stop laughing. Everyone's like in tears and even if you watch the episode, there'll be cuts where you sort of see like tears in some of the actor's eyes because they've just been like having so so much fun with it. Anyways, so that's our homework for today is to watch that episode after this. Shout out to Lee eisenberg actually. He is an old friend of mine. So while we're propping him up just to say he's got a new show coming out on Apple TV plus called we crashed about WeWork. Yep. Awesome. We lovely. We lovely. Great guy. Okay, enough promoting of Lee. Let's go back to the long neglected chapter three that you guys were supposed to be walking me through. Actually, Lee had a big role in chapter three. He would come to our class and we would delve into these different sort of rules and insights that comedians often use. Naomi, why don't you take it away? Yeah, so I think what's helpful to boil it down to two quick principles. And those principles are truth and misdirection. So first we've talked about at the heart of humorous truth, don't look for what's funny instead just notice things that are true. The comedian Sarah Cooper has this great airplane seating chart. She made the observation that airplane seats tend to get smaller and smaller and more uncomfortable. And so that's the truth, right? She made this airplane seating chart and the labels were things like economy, economy, economy comfort, economy, economy discomfort, economy, agony, economy to the reckoning. Where's your God now economy Satan's den economy and then finally just poop. So this is like super simple truth observation and by the way she added a little bit of exaggeration to it. Second is misdirection. So laughter springs from the unexpected, right? When we look at a visual it looks like a regular airplane seating chart and then all of a sudden economy to the reckoning. And so those are the two sort of highest order principles. So look at what's true in your life and then try and figure out a way to communicate it in a way that has a bit of misdirection built in. Coming up, Jennifer and Naomi explain how to conduct what they call a humor audit. They talk about how to sign off on your emails and the pros and cons of self deprecating humor. That's right after this. As some of you may know, I have three cats, Stevie,.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on The Black Guy Who Tips Podcast
"I know it's because i've seen it from my grandma obscene. It's genuinely that's happening in. Also it's like okay. Well she's one of the people from our generation to say okay. Let me go go this brand and let me maintain a brand in its cool but when we get to a point where people try to live this brand and become this brand and be that regular team for the record. She couldn't not like. That's why i think that's why i maybe it's the content creator sodomy but i'm like. She took that controversy and translated into her specific branded content. And that's interesting because it's good enough because people wanna believe people will trick themselves into like. This is who she is all the time. That's her genuine. How she felt like she. You don't know a single person on this earth you could talk dirty like that about relationship. And their first reaction is a mother theresa shit and it's yeah my cares about right. I was like. That's what i was just looking at the flex like you did. That was amazing. Well liked to eighty two evil. Like yes i had. The currency had promised the current looking looking at sales. Yeah 'cause 'cause i the other thing is there's nothing i like. There's nothing else to this. Credible there's nothing wendy content. There's no back like she hit her with either. It is nothing you can say back and that is masterful whether she intended to or your beliefs accidentally stumbled into it. Because he's just that. I was looking at it like when you look at where you learned acquiring and they like take your course of your enemies movement. Use it against them because she just took that trip on the ground. How you like that took it is. It's fucking beautiful and the sense of like hal. Our minds are not built media shit at all if it is so. It's so scary. Because i know for like for like the kids like the babies like they were on the youtube and watching. Hey guys where people wanna be youtubers know how much work it takes to do this and also somebody who is in the industry like this is my first job in. I don't have like this big team around me. I'm just like. I just have just like i have some people. Do not like eight months. You gotta do this when you do like i would say like i don't have that so it's like going through it and be like okay. I want to be good with myself in my heart. But then i see how all these other people can make all these amazing moves and you wanna do. I would love to have a network special rise tomorrow right. I mean it's it's And it's just a random poked my pockets. you good. I had sarah cooper on my podcasts or probably like episode ten and we just talked about a lot of stuff about comedy and where where she used to be corporate america and she was like you just wasn't connecting at that time because we were just doing lifestyle the home and then once the pandemic eight to take top stuff and it blew up in a netflix. Wholesome always things it's like. Oh she's already. She was already that that's to a certain degree asks who she is town can ride..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Recode Media
"We're back there. Were a lot of people who who blocked the wrong word but several prominent examples of people who on the left Who were able to gather an audience. At some case build a business during the trump years and taking people like rick media gas behind patsy america. Or someone like sarah cooper who's you know not explicitly political made her name parenting trump What is what is the post trump world look like for us. Your audience stayed the same as gone down. Gone up and and how do you think about so. Why do you think that is because you definitely hear from his especially established media. Well that some of the subscriber and reader interests they had is declined now that trump is is both out of office and quiet. Because i'm not. I'm not just a political commentator and that's the reason i am an influence sir. I i play video games. I watch murder mysteries with my audience. There isn't that much like there. Isn't that much content out there to consume from a from an obvious like leftist perspective. Where you can just like sit there and it's not just marxist theory but it's you know i'm not like i'm not constantly just talking about dialectical materialism but but you can tell that my world view is is on that side and It reflects in even all in all of my analysis which i think comes across as a unique approach to most issues because most people have never heard of this perspective or have ever seen it beyond what they learn in a negative way in college. If they ever even broach the subject beyond communism is bad and terrible. and it's the same as fascism. So that's i think that's a novel approach for a lot of people and then also for people who already have that worldview. I'm one of the very few places that they can actually consume content From that point of view that's still entertaining. It's interesting to hear you describe yourself influence right because the the the standard stereotype is usually a woman always woman but someone who's who's selling A lifestyle brand farm. But yeah i guess i guess i think of the the people dancing on tiktok right as sort of the very boomer take. Peter won't be honest. Well i know some boomers you ever feel like you need to diversify your content. If you need to say look. I'm giving them too much marxist theory here i've got i've got to spend more time being entertaining or maybe the other way if anything i will i will usually go the other way where i'm like i'm not doing enough. Not just marsupials like. I'm not doing enough political coverage or enough reporting but i i just i like to have fun and i'm just i'm doing everything That i enjoy doing for the most part and it just happens to make me successful and it happens to appeal to a lot of people. I'm very fortunate. I don't think about it from the point of view of i need to you know. Increase the politics style twenty-five percent. It's like some days. There's a lot of news. And i want to get through a lot of the news stories other days. Have fun in you know not really either focus on the news and just go with the flow. What's your relationship with with twitched on by amazon owned by the run by the world's richest man What's what's that relationship like it's not very contentious. Twitch has been pretty good to me a couple times right. They have are these. I mean all the time. I guess it's been all the time but no twitch has been pretty good part of the reason why they suspended me is Is something that. I even defend myself. Which is the terms of service that they have. They are very very careful about their terms of service for the most part they will immediately suspend you if you do anything that is reported. What's what's what's something that got you in trouble in the past I got in trouble for a frame like like a mountain like a one second frame from bowling for columbine the michael moore movie. Yeah the michael moore documentary movie. Where i wasn't even talking about like mass shootings or anything. Actually i was talking about latin america and are like destabilse american imperialism in south america and destabilization and i think it was like maybe the not massacre or something. I don't even recall what the exact one was. But there was like one brief. Snippet burma documentary. That sean eighth graders that had like actual gore in it like they showed dead bodies. So you put healy through still of that up on your stream. It was in. It was in the okay in the snippet that i was was just to be clear was saying this content. That's objectionable we. We don't wanna not not because you're violating a copyright by showing someone else's movie yes. It was straight up because they consider that to be a violation of the terms of service because it was growth It was a gross gore. And there was another one where you basically equivalent of chickens coming home to roost. Thing about nine eleven Which i've read about that was the other one. Yeah that was the biggest so it's happened a few times but you sort of figured out how to not trip those wires anymore and incan stay on without taking. Oh yeah for the most part. I mean i i think like they know that i am. I'm one of the largest content creators on the platform. They know that i mean well. I am not interested in like violating the terms of service. I'm very careful on top of that as well though. Yeah they just. I haven't been banned since that big one. And do you feel any conflict about perf- about doing what you do on amazon. Run by jeff bezos. Who who who is often now a subject to criticism. No it is virtually impossible to operate outside of it's virtually impossible if not completely impossible to operate outside of capitalism in order to criticize it it comes across the critical to someone who's like well who's never really put a lot of thought or consideration into it and it certainly Something that people tell me. I was like dude. Oh really like you. You criticize amazon.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Of gloss origo right from where you were born to your contract at seventeen but had the had your childhood growing up in growing up as a as a young black girl in rapid. Is this diverse community. By was the only i was one of very few black people in my class growing up. Yeah so had had you. Prior to entering the academic or corporate world's had you encountered bullshit related to race or. Was it really only as an adult. Now i mean i was. I was getting asked. What are you from. When i was like eight or seven. I i didn't really know. I didn't really know what i my best friend growing up was jewish. She still has in her. Name's stacey and we're walking walking home. Some white high school kids drove by and yelled out the n. Word and i thought they were talking to her. You know what. I mean because when you when you come to this country as an immigrant and we came from a very diverse to make us so divorced. My grandmother's my grandmother is german. Like we're all very mixed and you come here and then all of a sudden you're just black and it's like we don't we as immigrants we don't even really know what that means and you have a good joke though like being at the mall with your dad right right with my dad. And he's like look at those black people over there. And i'm like data to mirror because concept of of of how he's being seen in how he sees people are is just completely defined by american away that he doesn't understand So you know the upside of this was obviously. I would imagine that. You're you're finally after all these years of trying to just keep a foot in performing while doing what you have to do to you know. Pay the bills and just like everybody else here. You're finally being recognized and applauded in a major major way for your abilities and was there any part of you. That was concerned. Like wait a minute. I have become so well known as the young woman who lip syncs trump that.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Eventually i was doing because people are demanding it and i was like okay so now when trump himself targeted tiktok and was like. We're going to shut this down there. Were some people out there. Who thought maybe he secretly is watching you and feels like that's the way to deal with it. I mean that is that is a trumpian way of handling things. Let's just take down the whole platform. It wouldn't have worked. Because i guess by that point you were already working beyond tiktok in the sixty second requirement but when he when he started going after tiktok. I'm i i think. It was also the talkers who disrupted his rally and made sure that nobody showed up. I think a lot of people thought it was that as well I mean when when someone said mine named his face in that interview that was. That was a scary moment. That was like whoa. He actually has her. At least i know he's heard my name didn't like that part and so yeah i didn't i don't think he was gonna shut down because of me or whatever. I just thought it was ridiculous but so on brand so on brand for him to do that. So if we can kind of dissect like what made these things really click with people. I mean there were obviously numerous other people who did trump impersonations some which i thought were pretty good you know alec baldwin had his moments. There's this guy who. I'm sure you've probably seen on social media jail calvin. I thought was very good. He hates you why he well he did this whole interview about how it was really frustrating. The attention i was getting for just lip synching him whereas he was doing improv and adding his own and writing his own stuff and so yeah. I will talk to him but i think he thought he was kind of like a little bit about it. Well my only point in bringing up these other examples as you know it was interesting to see these white guys doing it. But again see trump's words coming out of somebody who in a lot of ways is his exact opposite man versus woman old versus young way versus black idiot versus educated person. In some ways. I guess how do you think that affected the viewer experience. It just seems like in some ways. It's like the ultimate insult to him to be mocked by his exact opposite right. I think so. Yeah i mean. I think it's one thing to be played by alec baldwin. Who is kind kind of you know. I wouldn't say baldwin is is trump. he's sort of a contemporary like he's got the power he's got the money he's not an idiot you know. But he's he's got all of that going for him whereas with me. I don't have i don't have the the people calling me sir and like people you know following me around telling me i'm a genius or whatever and so for for me..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"They'll so good. But i i went from sixty thousand twitter followers to two point. Three million you know it was a crazy amount of just snowballed but at the same time. I just have no concept. I still feel like what. I don't know what happened. I was doing zoom with ben stiller just like is this happening like it just none of. It's really just none of it. Felt real none of it. Felt like it was really happening. And i've met all these amazing people and all the stuff. But it's still just people are like your sarah cooper and i'm like i don't really own that much you know what i mean will and even your your special which of course we're going to come to. I mean it had to be made under the most bizarre of circumstances. So i guess it just. It's like you're the case study in essentially becoming famous when nobody can go outside and what that is like but i guess i have to ask about was was there any of the flip side where you know. Clearly there are more than a few trumpers who are a little unhinged. where have you had to Have you have you felt any of that coming in your direction. Knock on wood. i haven't and You know even when trump himself has asked about my videos just who she is. What about so i mean. Honestly i think there is more of a backlash from people who were like. I don't like sarah cooper. She's just lip synching. You know she's not funny you know she's like I think it was called like boomer boomer comedian because boomer's love me and which is true and i think there was more of a backlash from just like people thinking i did nothing and i came out of nowhere and i didn't deserve like what i was getting. I think there was more about that than there was from. Trumpers literally get people who are trump supporters saying i love trump but this is funny like they were they were. They thought it was funny too. So i really didn't get the backlash that my dad was even like. I don't wanna get deported scare. That may be there would be some huge backlash against me or something. I mean i guess the key is that you were literally just using his own words. You're not you're not projecting editorial comment beyond the stuff that we're going to come to. But i guess one other question is here. You are with your video content. Long up i think initially was it exclusively on tiktok then it goes beyond thereby like tiktok is not monetize. -able twitter is not monetize -able for all this happiness that you're bringing the people who you're doing these four and the skill with which he did it. What could you actually personally kind of gained from it beyond hoping that it would lead to something like what it automatic guess with netflix. Things came out it. It wasn't like i can't imagine a hugely profitable venture in in and of itself. Was it now no i. I wasn't making any money. I i was making a little money on youtube ads. And that's about it not put videos on youtube but yeah i wasn't. Yeah it was really just doing it for fun..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"I believe several attempts that didn't go viral before that what even let's just say for the first one of those. What made you turn to that medium as a as a outlet for i mean even just the idea of of lip synching anywhere but particularly on tiktok. How did that come about playing around tiktok on when we were lockdown in quarantine and was trying to do a dance and i a bad very bad making little videos little sketches here and there and then i saw i saw a woman lip sync him and i think it was the quote was it might get bigger. Might get smaller. But whatever edit. It was something stupid that he said. And i saw this woman thing and i was like wow that is fascinating fascinating hearing his voice coming out of somewhat someone else that looks nothing like him and who is an him and i just i was like i gotta try that And i think the first one i did was maybe when he was just talking about companies or something like that. He was just one of these press conferences where he listed companies. That's it for an hour. Listen knees And so i made a little video with that. And then i think another one where i think that it really clicked for me one where i was listening to one of his press conferences and he said something about somebody asked him how he was going to get something done and he said well. I'm going to form a committee. Yeah i'll call it a committee and We're going to make decisions and we're gonna make decisions fairly quickly. And i think they're going to be the right decisions. And i was like i felt like i was back in one of those meetings. I was one of those meetings and a guy who said absolutely nothing was being lauded and applauded and told he was brilliant for saying absolutely nothing. And i got that because i'm a woman a person of color and immigrant..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Who is you know emigrated a young age to this country from one of the places that this guy is now. I mean the first some of the first things he was doing. We're going after emigrants calling majority black shithole countries all of that before you were ever mobilized to figure out how you could take this on. Just how did you personally respond to this. Jarring development it was. It was excruciating. I mean it was really experienced all the emotions over the course of that year. I thought it was so funny that he was running. It was the most hysterical thing in the world. I even bought a trump t shirt because i thought follow. This is going to be worth something because this is never happening. And then once you know once i started realizing oh no. People are actually taking him seriously and then allow he. He actually might have a chance. And i remember feeling about three weeks before the election like he might actually win and i started. Woke up like crying because i was like. I think he's gonna win. And i remember being on twitter the day of the election and i think i tweeted something about how like i have bad feeling you know and so many people wrote sarah ninety nine percent. There's no way there's absolutely no way this is happening and then it happened. That night i didn't sleep and It was just. It was so sad. I was on a plane the next day watching hillary clinton's Speech and crying on the plane. And i was just. I didn't know i. It's kind of like when you see an earthquake you know. Sometimes they say you see an earthquake and you see the earth like move in a way that it's not supposed to move the streets wave. It's like nothing made sense. It was like down was nothing made sense. I didn't know you know. And it's like it's like all the people that are conspiracy theorists. Were over there. And then all of a sudden i was one of them. You know all the second. I was like wait. what's happening. What does this mean what's going. I got very paranoid. I got very angry. I was going to say there's stages of grief. I guess you know and in this case you know your first interaction with trump online was well before you were making any videos right. What happened in october. Twenty seventeen which wasn't a joke but it was right anyway. Let me let you take that away. yeah i was. I was one of his reply. Guys i guess. I was always replying to his tweets and telling him what an idiot he will..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"I mean when you look at google. That's one of the best places to work in the world. You know free food you know there's So many perks and it's just it's just an amazing place to work and yet for me. It was like well. You know. I'm giving up my dream once again to do this. So go back to atlanta. Which is i guess. That was what company was it in atlanta. That was that was prio rate and it's called. Iq interactive okay. So while you're there doing that you mentioned. I guess that's where standup was i tried. What led you to do that. Had you always known that if you had a sort of comedic inclination or it sounds like you were going to be abby performing in any. It wasn't a comedy specific thing until then right. Yeah i mean. I was not good at acting. I really was failing. Wa- auditioning for things over and over and over again and just really wasn't getting anywhere and i started. I'm a type of person. Where like i try to figure it out like what's missing. What can i do like what's the thing that's not working and so i really took every class. I've taken literally every class. You can imagine if there's a class for it. I'll take it and so i took writing. I took singing. I took acting classes. I took scene. Work took improv. I took sketch took everything. And then the one thing. I hadn't tried with stand up and it was just one of these things where i was like. Well you know a starting to realize that being a character is not really about becoming this other thing. It's really about finding that character and yourself. And i really wasn't in touch with myself and i would just get this feedback constantly. Which was sarah..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Just not what they wanna hear because they want you to own a house and get married and settle down and have you be financially independent. My at my parents house right now the every night my dad talks about taxes indexed annuities. Or when a like and i still don't really understand any of it. I have a degree in economics because my parents didn't want me to get it the so. Yeah i mean i think you know at seventeen. I was going to go off to college. And i got a theater scholarship and really wanted to do theater and my parents were very i would say they encouraged me to not do that or at least have some kind of backup so that i wouldn't be struggling and i felt it was necessary for me to not let myself down and not let my own dreams down. And so i created a contract between me and myself. Where i said i sara cooper being of sound mind and body and i didn't realize that sound mind was one phrase. I put a comma after sound sound. Carmel i i'm glad you are a sound only sound. I promise myself to you know. Try to be an actress for at least ten years or a. You know as long as it takes. Or or if i decide to change my mind. And i don't want that anymore. That's fine too but i just promised myself that i would give it a try and so i signed the contract. I had my sister witness it. Because i am so business and i had a witness. This was. I can't even believe i didn't sign it in blood. I mean some serious about this thing Yeah and i signed this contract to myself. And i still have it. I just came across the other day. Actually so in your mind at that point with that would mean was that i'm gonna go to not go to use this theater. Scholarship university of maryland go there instead to spend my undergrad years. As you've just said doing economics but that somewhere along the line these years are going to be made up for with in terms of acting somewhere down the road. Yeah it was just always in the back of my head like you know Yeah i'm going to get this degree but you know i. I sent my picture to a casting director. I worked as an intern in central casting for a little bit. I was always just had my like one little toe in theater. I did a production at the university of maryland. And you know eventually found design because it was creative. But i could also make money which was like..
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Awards Chatter
"Hi everyone and thank you for tuning into the three hundred. Eighty eighth episode of awards chatter. The hollywood reporter's awards podcasts. I'm the host. Scott feinberg and my guest today is the tech wizard. A thrice published author and a rising star in the world of comedy for many people two thousand and twenty was the worst year of their life but for her it was at least in a professional sense the best indeed during the global pandemic her do it yourself video shot at home in brooklyn featuring her lip synching and acting out then president. Donald trump saying ridiculous things went absolutely viral and won her plaudits from the likes of jerry. Seinfeld share and kamala harris among many others. The washington post described her as just about the only good thing in a year mired in isolation racial unrest and political conflict ad week named her digital creator of the year and the associated press selected her as one of the five breakthrough entertainers. Now she is being given the larger platform that she so richly deserves including an emmy contending. Netflix comedy special called sarah cooper. Everything's fine. I'm talking of course about sarah cooper over the course of our conversation. The forty four year old immigrant from jamaica reflects on her decades long struggle between doing the responsible thing and pursuing the performing arts that she so loves how she arrived at and then walked away from a tremendous career at google. In order to focus on comedy what led her to turn to tiktok to mock trump and why she thinks her videos resonated with people in a way that other trump impersonations perhaps did not what she hopes the unusual sort of pandemic era famed. She attained will yield in the years to come plus much more and so without further ado. Let's go to that.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Problematic Premium Feed
"Who's gonna fade into the after sarah. She's a she's already and she credit herself for disrupting trump. Sarah cooper remembered like mediocre content. That offends nowy tweet. Kamala harris or like and. forgive me. Forgive me god. Forgive me man. I don't mean this in a bad way Mentally disabled this was a fascinating John for me for re tweets mentally disabled people can be re tweeted because it offends. No one cost you nothing alike but it's not liked or re tweeted because you respects as because it's the safest thing so suddenly in the social media era there was this market increase. People promoting mentally disabled people running for touchdowns hitting wiffle balls or smiling and it's not a reflection of whether you value them but it's because you know like to to be against this is to Contravene moral code. And this is what i mean like. If you wanna get big you have to start promoting content that really has no worse except to weaponize people's values against and i was never accused you that and that's that long winded. That long winded talk was just to say that. I'm not accusing you at add. And i hope you know that for sure for sure brother as usual. It's a.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on KQED Radio
"Lows in the low to mid forties. Tomorrow will be partly cloudy with a chance of rain by the 30% chance of rain tomorrow highs will be in the mid fifties. This is KQED. San Francisco Cake FBI. NORTH ISLAND, Sacramento. It's 10 20. This is Forum on Michael Krasny. We're talking about how to bring humor into the workplace with Stanford marketing Professor Jennifer Rocker and comic and lecture Naomi back Donna's and Their new book is called Humor Seriously. It grew out of a class they teach at Stanford Business School and Will be at the Commonwealth Club this evening for a virtual event at six PM and tell me I was going to go to you on a couple of stories that appear in the book that I think are instructive and also humorous. I know you do some stand up and you've hung around the second city people. In fact, they're a lot of Sarah Cooper and Seth Meyers, Norman Lear. A lot of names that come up in your book of people. That you've had the I think good fortune to learn from both of you. But I wanted to find out about the story about the woman with the with the apple at the airport, and it's an instructive story when we can learn a good deal from could you Yeah, of course. So this is after a retreat that we had done at the second city in Chicago and 10 of US researchers have flown in from around the country. We had met with an Libera and Kelly Leonard at the second city, and we had done this immersion this three day immersion at the second city and on the way out of town from that immersion We? You know, we parted ways of the airport. We all said goodbye. And then I went and did something completely unremarkable, which is that I went to buy an apple from a new airport Bodega. So I noticed that there was this huge stack of glossy gorgeous apples in sort of a display case, and I wasn't sure if they were for sale. So I went to the front of the line and I, you know, wave down the woman who was selling the apples are selling them at the bodega. And I said, You know, Pardon me are those for sale. She looked at me and she said, Yeah, they're for sale. If you get in line, and so is this moment vote Okay. Great. Not in the best mood, So I went to the back of the line, and I just sort of watched this woman for the next couple of minutes as I was waiting in line. And I noticed that she Woz. She seemed to be in a really bad mood. You know, I'm sure she had had something going on in her life. That was just not great, And she was sort of snapping at every customer that came in front of her so When I got to the front of the line, I looked at the apples. And in that moment instead of saying, Can I please have an Apple instead said Can I Please have your favorite Apple? And she paused and looked at me like I was crazy, and she said, What do you mean? And I said, Well, there are 100 apples there. I would love to buy whichever one is your favorite, and I gave her a little smile. And in that moment Everything shifted. She cracked a smile, too, And she said, Okay, Yeah, I can. I guess I could do that. So she reaches down. She grabs an apple, and after a second, she's smiling to herself. And then she smiling with me. She's digging through the apples and then a couple people in line behind us or are pointing out which apples they think our best. And finally she grabs two apples. I mean, this was like, a minute and a half of just digging through these apples, laughing right. She grabbed these two last apples and she says Okay, It's between these two. Which one do you want? Said factor. Well, I don't know It's your It's your favorite apple. So you have to decide and she laughed. And she said, OK, this one. I'm I'm positive. It's this one. So she handed me the Apple and when I went to pay She said. That's okay. I don't charge for my favorite Apple. It's a lovely story is the charming story, but also you know you made her special in a way, so it's not only the humor it has to do with I'm sorry for deconstructing your story, but it's it also has to do with just changing the mood. Changing the whole attitude again. Attitude comes to my mind. Deacon's deconstruct away. It's so right and it Zen act of generosity right approaching someone with a smile and approaching them with a bit of warmth. It's also a way of just signaling. I see you, right, I recognizing the humanity and in each other rather than treating You know these moments as as transactional? I like that, because in fact, you make the point in the book that humor makes us more human, and it also takes away from aggression and from sour pushes and All those kinds of things. There's there's a lot of funny things in your book, and last night I was talking sounds like kind of humorous thing in itself, like a name dropper, saying I happen to be talking my literary agent. And they just gotta shoot your partner. Just got a new dog. And I mentioned this story that's in your book Jennifer Walker about it's right out of Seinfeld. Seinfeld's Those dogs are ready to them, and I'll read it here. Logs of the leaders of the planet. If you see two life forms, one of them's making a poop, the others ones carrying it for him. Who would you assume is in charge? It's very funny and again, it has to do with delivery and jury find Seinfeld's deliveries pretty inimitable. But what I was struck by in that story, and you kind of get into this lot of humor has to do with delivery. It has to do with timing. It has to do also with the appropriateness of the humor, but also incongruity you don't expect necessarily Wind up with that kind of Ah, ending to that story that narrative Yeah, I mean, that's the basic basics of humor, right? It's truth and misdirection, So it's basically giving your brain sort of a surprise or retreat. And so if you think of that, just again, the basics. It's not about being funny. It's just about being observant and noticing the truth. So that first principle of the heart of comedy is truth. We laughed out of recognition says something resonates our rings true with something inside of us, Esso when Seinfeld right side joke, you know he's just simply noticing. You know dogs, pooping and people picking them up. But then the second thing what you're noting? Is this misdirection or surprise? And and so again, it's basically you know, taking something and it's subverting it. And then you just use you know these basic tools that comedians often use that contrast. Or exaggeration or the rule of three where you end on something fine. Neighbors is embedded in the first couple of things that you're listening. So let me give you a couple of examples. Um I was reading this Twitter account yesterday. Bird fax. So they tweeted this pandemic.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on 106.1 FM WTKK
"And also people have been, you know, kind of filling secrets on Tic tac. There've been several Videos that are like telling them about celebrities and raiding them and how they're like. And you know what celebrities they met. So it's kind of like now, this like secret thing you know, people are really I'm still in all and I feel like people love that. But also think about all the people that broke out from six socks too. Like Sarah Cooper made such a big name for herself. And I remember he tweeted something. You know someone came up to me on the street that would have never happened a year ago. No. I just think more and more people are going to take to it. Especially it seems like you can get some sort of same from it. So, yeah, I think that is definitely gonna just keep growing and growing and on the topic of celebrities. One thing that I know you have covered at OK magazine is the fact that celebrities have really opened up throughout the course of this pandemic. Sometimes, you know, in the past, we've kind of watch them from afar. But things have gotten much more personal recently talk about that. And if you think that's something that will continue moving forward, even maybe after the pandemic Yeah, I feel like because this is such a You know, a seismic event that happened not only to us, but to celebrity do they're going to the same thing they're struggling with, you know, quarantine and weight gain. And, you know, not being able to work and all this stuff, too, and I feel like stands have definitely connected with that as well. I've seen so many things. You know, like I've seen this must wait in quarantine cause I'm stressed, and I've seen you know all these comments just saying, you know, Thank you so much for telling me that and for opening up about that, like I feel like that's just gonna keep continuing on and on. And I feel like this has really made everyone kind of, you know, re evaluate their lives and say, You know what? I'm maybe I'm in all these movies, but I'm I'm really normal person at the end of the day. And I think as time goes on, I think people are gonna still kind of keep that candor going because really important, I feel like that's how they connect with their fans in general, and also it's nice to see a different side to them. You know, maybe they're kind of You know, always harsh and you know have you know, maybe when they're getting interviewed, they're not always that nice or open and stuff like that. So I feel like it's been really nice to see a different side to someone else to. And just on that note. Final question for you celebrities who have become good at that and connect to their fans. Maura on Social Media, Do you find that they're able to gain a greater level of popularity that they're able to grow their careers in a better way than some of the other ones that are more reserved? Yeah, I think so. Because it makes you think like, you know. Oh, wow. They actually have worked through them than just their movies. They're actually a person and to me personally, I think it's nice when someone actually gives you some personal details about their life. You don't feel like they're just Anak ter or just an actress. I think that's definitely a better way of connecting with someone. And I think that it is also going to help them broke, too. And as more and more you know, as time goes on, and more and more platform get popular, and you know the younger generation. I also feel like That really speaks to the younger generation. I like younger generation loves a can like a candid conversation, so I feel like if they can just keep going with that. It's just going to get better and better for them. Jacqueline Ross, deputy editor at OK magazine. You can read all of their reporting on everything. Pop culture and okay mag dot com. Jacqueline. Thanks so much for the time. We really appreciate a great stuff. Of course, thanks for having me. All right, Coming up. Next will dive into the life and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr with historian and author Ken Davis. Free healthcare hundreds to more than $1000 per month and disability compensation and tens of thousands for college tuition. These are just some of the U. S Department of Veterans.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on 600 WREC
"There's been some big changes that have taken place there over the past couple of months where we've seen films like Wonder Woman, 1984 Go straight to HBO, Max as a platform. Do you see that continuing and perhaps growing, and is that something that could easily outlive the pandemic? Yeah. I definitely think it might even go beyond 2021. I think people kind of like this experience of staying home being comfortable in your pajamas, You know, having some popcorn and You know, being able to wander and not have to worry about being cooped up in a theater with other people talking or maybe on their phones, So I definitely think this is even going to go beyond the pandemic. But yes, I think we're gonna see How many more movies going straight to the platform? As Netflix announced recently, they said that they're going to be dropping a new movie every week and then HBO said that they're also going to be releasing big movies such as, like Lin Manuel Miranda's in the Heights and The Matrix. Four. Those air. You know, huge movies like Wonder Woman. I think you know, that is so well, just from screaming. People don't even have to go to the theater to see it. So I think that is going to keep growing and growing. And I think more and more platforms are going to realize that people want to stay home. You know, and see these things. They don't want to wait on line at midnight to see a new movie. They want to see it right now and on, you know, out on their couch. So I think that's even gonna go. Maura Maura, I'm hoping you know the TV or the movie theater. Stay open. You know, I personally love going to the movies. But I think people are gonna start to kind of, you know, fits more to digital into the streaming platforms for sure. It used to be that if a movie went, say straight to DVD that meant that it was essentially a failed movie, but with the streaming services, it's not thought of that way. And also you have a lot of people now, with the His massive home entertainment systems. These big TVs do you think it's taken a little bit of the shine off of the movie experience? I think a little bit. I mean, I think people you know, love that, you know, getting their popcorn and their candy and getting a huge soda and sitting in, you know, a plus scare and, you know, now they have those ones that stressed out and kick your feet up. You know, people, I think, miss that and you know I Whenever I go to a theater, and especially when you're seeing a funny movie to have that laughter around you, I feel like makes such a difference. And if you're sitting at home alone, but, you know, I think I think people really do want that. So I think it might even be a lot like a company. In of maybe some movies will you know the bigger ones may go right toe platform, Or maybe they also will go to movie theaters as well. People. Maybe we'll have that voice and they can kind of maybe sift out who is, you know, feeling with way you know who wants to stay home? Maybe the homebodies want to stay home or people who want to get out more want to go to the theater. But it is definitely I think an experience that people are missing out on I'm joined by Chaplin Rock Deputy editor and OK magazine. You can check out all their coverage. Okay mag dot com. 2020 was certainly the year of Tic tac. How do you see that platform growing in 2021? Do you think you know We've seen this before where a new social media platform has popped up, And then it's faded away. Whereas Twitter Facebook instagram. They've all stuck Is Tic tac here for the long term. Oh, yes, I think it's definitely here to stay for the foreseeable future. I think it was similar to Instagram how people it took off, and people were unsure if it would stay and you know now, here we are. Probably 78 years later. I think Tic Tac is going to be very similar clearly in quarantine celebrities and people just have gotten really creative. And you know, you see all these videos of people, you know they're dances and their costumes like people are like it's a theater performance, like people are putting. Every ounce of effort into this stuff, And I think it's also a great way for celebrities to, you know, connect with their fans and see and sew them. Hey, I'm also a normal person, You know, I work out and you know I still my videos and I dance around my house, too. So I think it's just going to keep growing and growing. And also people have been, you know, kind of filling secrets on Tic tac. There've been several Videos that are like telling them about celebrities and raiding them and how they're like, and you know what celebrities they met. So it's kind of like now, that's like secret thing. You know, people are really I'm still in all and I feel like people love that. But also think about all the people that broke out from tech stocks to like Sarah Cooper made such a big name for herself, and I remember he tweeted something. You know someone came up to me on the street that would've never happened a year ago. No, I just think more and more people are going to take to it. Especially it seems like you can get some sort of fame from it. So, yeah, I think that is definitely and I just keep growing and growing and on the topic of celebrities One thing that I know you have covered at OK magazine is the fact that celebrities have really opened up throughout the course of this pandemic. Sometimes, you know, in the past, we've kind of watch them from afar. But things have gotten much more personal recently talk about that. And if you think that's something that will continue moving forward, even maybe after the pandemic Yeah, I feel like because this is such a You know, a seismic event that happened not only to us, but to celebrity to they're going to the same thing they're struggling with, you know, quarantine and weight gain. And, you know, not being able to work and all this stuff, too, and I feel like stands have definitely connected with that as well. I've seen so many things. You know, like I've seen this must wait in quarantine today. I'm stressed. And I've seen you know all these comments just saying, you know, Thank you so much for telling me that and for opening up about that, like I feel like that's just gonna keep continuing on and on. And I feel like this has really made everyone kind of, you know, reevaluate their lives and said, You know what? I'm maybe I'm in all these movies, but I'm I'm really normal person at the end of the day. And I think as time goes on, I think people are gonna still kind of keep that candor going because really important, I feel like that's how they connect with their fans in general, and also it's nice to see a different side to them. You know, maybe they're kind of You know, always harsh and you know have you know, maybe when they're getting interviewed, they're not always that nice or open stuff like that. So I feel like it's been really nice to see a different side to someone else to. And just on that note. Final question for you celebrities who have become good at that and connect to their fans. Maura on Social Media, Do you find that they're able to gain a greater level of popularity that they're able to grow their careers in a better way than some of the other ones that are more reserved? Yeah, I think so. Because it makes you think like, you know. Oh, wow. They actually have worked through them than just their movies. They're actually a person and to me personally, I think it's nice when someone actually give you some personal details about their life. You don't feel like they're just Anak ter or just an actress. I think that's definitely a better way of connecting with someone. And I think that it is also gonna help them broke, too. And as more and more you know, as time goes on, and more and more platform get popular, and you know the younger generation. I also feel like that really speaks to the younger generation. I like younger generation loves a can like a candid conversation, so I feel like I've taken just keep going with that. It's just going to get better and better for them. Jacqueline Ross, deputy editor at OK magazine, You can read all of their reporting on everything. Pop culture and okay mag dot com. Jacqueline. Thanks so much for the time. We really appreciate a great stuff. Of course, Thanks for having me. All right, Coming up. Next will dive into the life and legacy of Martin Luther King Jr with historian and author Ken Davis. It went together, We believe that your acts of generosity.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on Sci-Fi Talk Time Capsule
"Jarrett. He's really really good and Then very corden. I'd worked with in a prior sound. We got him. We got him to work in it. He has a really really great role in it and So we very we've got markazi causing it. We have sarah cooper we have on of eastern fare well known in finland so we were hoping that would open up. Some markets The sixers area not a lot of things and wargames is one of my favorite roles. I have very reenacting things. I've worked on my cell phone patch. When we worked about a year and a half ago we worked on donnelly custom man We were up really really late at night. He was reenacting all these things for a videotape. And i'm like you know like worth its weight in gold somewhere somehow but i can't tell anybody and he's a very good friend special effects I guess you you're going to be. I guess nowadays because it's easy and it's practical I guess a lot. It's going to be digital. Hung out of a lot of it has to be going to stay. Foote's dreamscapes green means outside the ship and others different things that we tried to make things as as meal as possible and went to a couple of places and They re all i. I love that about the movie that it has really raw sense about it. Of course the actors really liked where we had to stay when we had to shoot these thanks to all deserted towns and stuff like that. But it's worth it for the visuals that he got sure. Sure and can you tell us a little bit about the movie. I no spoilers of course but just kind of give us an idea. It's about time pretty much. It's it's post apocalyptic. It's time travel and it's really about a man travelling through time trying to rewrite history and i kind of read you.
"sarah cooper" Discussed on KCRW
"A little over three hours a little under three hours. I should say till the fireworks start going off here in l A. I will be here Keep you entertained and soundtrack for the evening all night to a little bit after midnight tonight, Okay? And I know 2020. Absolutely. It sucks. But let's not forget some of the good stuff that happened in 2020 Lakers won a championship. Dodgers won the world Syriza's Sarah Cooper kept us entertained Queen's gambit. On a music level for me anyway, Gabriel is nation of language. Those acts that I'd never heard of in 2019 that I discovered in 2020. I know it was absolutely Ah, horrible year It was still some decent stuff to come through. No doubt 2021. I don't even want Jackson and say, but hopefully it'll be better. All right. We're gonna keep the funk groove going leading off the next set of music with the cut from brass construction. Stay tuned, KCRW. I'm Scott Simon from NPR. Don't know about you, but I'm sure ready for 2021. If you donated public radio this year, Thank you..
Sarah Cooper is getting a Netflix special
"Netflix. Lisa G. Report Cooper Game fame during the pandemic by lip sinking impressions of President Donald Trump that she posted on TIC Tac and other social media platforms. Her how to videos of earned tens of millions of views and garden support and re tweets from Ben Stiller, Chrissy Teak and Jerry Seinfeld and Seth Meyers, among others. Sarah Cooper. Everything's fine is set to premiere this fall. According to Netflix, the variety special feature vignettes dealing with Politics, race, gender and class. Your voice. Your
Who should replace Ellen?
"News is ongoing. Generous. Ongoing News that won't stop are one nemesis might be replaced by our other nemesis. On their talk show the Ellen show. Well, these are that this is them news, but I do feel like Ellen could be replaced with a WHO, if this all comes to fruition or like a WHO thinks so too person because I'm seeing a lot of people nominate various talk show e people although apparently the rumors are like James Corden is going to replace Ellen, but like he has a show so. That makes no sense to me on any. That's what blows my mind. Why he has eight hundred shows. He has just made another daily show like that doesn't make any sense to me at on. The also has carpool. Karaoke. And then he also has the cat sequel like he has plenty, oh. Yeah. Let's replace a supposedly nice person with another supposedly nice person like. Haven't. We learned anything from this thing. These people are Nice. They suck. I think always be wary of people who say their thing is being. I think the number, one person who should clearly replace Allen is Kiki Palmer. There's literally no. Better obvious. Getting a lot of a lot of traction and she showing up a lot of tweets because it's like she just had a talk show that got canceled for no reason on ABC. Well, it was like that one hour of Commerical Strahan. Michael? And Kiki Sarah? There was A. Third Sarah. Sarah. And Michael and Kiki It just give it to clean working it. Just everyone likes he. We Love Kiki. She's a great host. Who else do you think if if we're going if for skewing young? I think we to Kiki for skewing older, I think it should go to fucking the woman who should have gotten David Letterman, amy. Sedaris like give it to amy sedaris because people like her. She's silly. I don't know that, amy, the thing is I. Don't know that Amy Sarah's would want to do that I. Feel like. I don't need that. We're talking about this on the Patriot. If you WANNA. Go listen to that about how drew Barrymore also has daily, show a daytime show coming out, and I'm like who would want this job? Drew Barrymore wants this job since when like it's just to meal a a weird job that you wouldn't want that could turn you or probably. Turn you into a monster, right? Yes. but the to provide a context in case you've been under a rock people are like there. There have been the rumors for years and years and years, but specifically the past few months they've really you know the hit a critical mass and started being reported publicly like Ellen is an asshole to everyone. Ellen is an asshole. The people she works with Ellen makes people not talk to her ellen cruel. But now there are reports by like news and variety and insider that it wasn't just ellen being a to everyone and celebrities and not liking Ellen like being on Ellen show. It's that the executive producers were actually like being abusive like in sexually harassing the employees. So it's like a culture. Culture of toxicity. That is the sort of thing that I don't that Ellen is deciding up allegedly that she doesn't want to deal with anymore. So she's like this sucks like I just rather not do this anymore. Right. So but this rumor, this isn't this is in fact, this is rumor because people keep their keep going back and forth and saying some some sources say she's not leaving this show sums his sources as she's leaving the show. I. Can't imagine somebody as likely a annoyed with the whole situation who is known to be not a very nice person would want to continue to fake be nice and have to apologize and half to like kind of whatever because these rumors have been. Kind of like I for some reason I, keeping you Kevin Spacey Pre the abuse allegations like when everyone knew he was gay, but no one knew he was gay like it was weird thing where it was like if you knew, you knew if you didn't, you had no idea what be totally shocked it. Kind of feels like that type of Hollywood news where like everyone knew that Ellen was secretly mean except for Ellen fans who had no idea where living happily with ellen everyday of their life and like the show was wildly successful, right? very strange. A very strange thing. Do you think that this will happen because people are so bored in their craving, the Gospel, and then somebody just this is this is what I mean I, think it's I mean. It's a combination of a lot of things at one of is like the people finally speaking out about their employers. It's like finally like shutting down like the. The systemic issues and leg, not being corporate America and knowing that people will support them and believe them and believe them, and that like the media machine of Ellen isn't powerful enough to shut down. So many voices if enough come out and and we'll talk about it later in the episode, but it's like the it's similar to the. Vanessa. Morgan thing, it's it's shades of an ESA Morgan being like I'm going to speak up against the riverdale creators and the Riverdale producers because people are people are realizing that they can do that and they won't get like dumped on by the press or of their fans they will be seen as like heroes. But. It's also just like, I, Think Dakota Johnson had a tiny bit to do with it because Dakota Johnsons like Open crubaugh open open. Rudeness to Ellen SORTA. Gave People. I don't know permission to speak about rumors that she's an asshole more openly. They're like, it looks like that's what Dakota's referencing. So I didn't even know you liked me. Of course, I. Like you. You Knew I. Liked you. You've been on the show many times and don't I show like. But I did invite you and you didn't come. So this time you invited me, are you sure? How do you? I don't think. So ask everybody. Jonathan. Your producer. I was that, why didn't I go? I don't know that became a meme. You have people like Brad Garret and who else replied to him. Leah Tom's Tom's joins. She is mean she is. She. Yes. Now, I can't believe I just called the Thomson. So Deutsche US minor. That was obsessed the disease of this show right here. Yeah. Leah Thompson also respond to that and said Yep I mean, I just think that it's like no one was a true story note once you lose grip on the fear, you are the power you had over I mean, and it's funny because then you have scooter Braun coming out her being like Ellen is great. I. Love Allen is like so people still. Look at the people coming out and say L. Like scooters, hedging his bets at this, all go away and back to normal and Ellen will still be powerful and whatever, and then you have people speaking out i. just it's a fascinating reveal of a monolith almost kind of crumbling that you didn't think would ever. Be exposed like this. I didn't. It seems like Palmer is getting a lot of A lot of press over like a lot of tweets being could replace. Ellen is trending key Palmer got a lot. Tiffany haddish. Got A lot that woman who does the like trump impersonations? What's her name? Sarah? Cooper. She got a lot of people tweeting about her I mean, I think it's just bomber just someone who someone who actually. Got Some tweets booing reply Oh doodoo be from drag race also got A. Drag. Race. Got I. saw that. Yeah. But I think he palmer when you when you want someone who has like the resume as well like. You of don't WANNA, pick someone random like Sarah Cooper. As funny as she is on twitter, because like her her her skills as a as an interviewer, not proven whereas Kiki, Palmer is a link interviewer host. Yeah I mean I would say like the Ellen slots, big slot made we just move up the ladder. We get Kelly Clarkson in that slot. We get Drew Barrymore Kelly was and we get key. Palmer. Work. Curse, lot I know these are all people on different network. So it makes literally no sense but you. Better like we. We cannot confuse the audience. We must replace the Ellen show with someone named. Ellen. Ellen Ellen. Page's like don't look at me like another gay. Just like I will not I will. Zone POMPEO, she wouldn't do it. I. Don't I don't need Elon Pale. Ellen Page Ellen Popular, and Never Would Ellen Pompeo every interview Ellen Pao's ever done. It's been like I. Love Grey's Anatomy I. have nothing but free time like. She will never do that. You know who would do it. Who Ellen Barkin? Embark and all Ellen Barkin wants is a soapbox like did someone say soapbox?
Trump wants to ban Tik Tok
"Actually let's talk a little bit about Tick Tock today I performed this morning. An Act of rebellion. I downloaded installation talk on my iphone because who knows how much longer I'll be able to do it it's very confusing I don't know what's going on. Tick Tock, which is owned by the Chinese company Bite Dance Safest that committee. Or foreign investment in the United. States apparently is investigating I. Think they actually issued a ruling saying that like, wow away tick tock was a threat to the United States One of the ways tiktok became really big as by acquiring a couple years ago musically, which is really I think from what I see on. tiktok kind of the backbone of what Tick Tock is these days, which is lip synching or acting or dancing to an original track It's it's very entertaining. It's a it's probably the most engaging social network out there. But apparently, it's a threat to our way of life. On Friday the president on Air Force One. said that he was about to ban it as soon as yesterday. From the United States I'm not sure under what law safest can do it I think. But I don't know if the president can by executive order banning application. then for the last week Microsoft Been. Negotiating to buy the American rights to talk to kind of create a tick tick Tock America that would be separate from the Chinese bite. Dance. TIKTOK. But then the president says I'M GONNA ban it but I don't want anybody to buy it. So, micro-. Microsoft said. Threw their hands off and said figure it out and there. They didn't end the conversation with bite dance. Apparently, they were fairly close but they're not forwarding it until they find out what happens I'm GonNa make a prediction. Nothing is going to happen except now people are going to download and use TIKTOK. Brianna is tick tock a threat to national security. It's not a unique threat to national security. We need to have a conversation about the kinds of information social media APPS are able to download from our phones. We all remember the scandals of facebook on android downloading your tire phone list gang everyone you've ever called. We need to have a conversation about that, but there's there's really no evidence that what Tiktok is pulling is any greater than what you know facebook instagram these other social media sites are. Pulling so far. So we need a wider discussion about that. How's it just want to say I wish I could tell you this was just trump in the Republicans that would make me very happy. My heart broke today to see Chuck Schumer on the Sunday morning shows advocating the same thing tech talk. So you know it's it is we need to have a conversation about national security and the amount of information were giving up but it's I think. To just focus on TIKTOK. Sign of. Phobia. Or Zena Phobia Paris, you seem like a Tiktok user. I that's only because you're younger than. I. Did recently re downloaded when this whole. Wanted to make sure that I had it. I'm sure is a common response. I agree with everything the Brown said in the sense that I don't know I've been particularly disturbed by. The reactions to take talks, data collection both from the left and right and just. Experts in the tech field generally over the past couple of months because it is definitely coming from a place of seeing phobia. I mean, we have so many different. American. Made APPS that. Do many of the same things I mean one thing that I've seen noted quite often as to talk has the ability to see what you've. You know copied near Clipboard when guests so do most of the apps you have on your phone. Is Operatives. It's not a tiktok specific problem. This came up because of Iowa's fourteen, which is in public Beta now so people are suddenly using it and dozens of applications. I. Think must be a library that they all subscribe to infect somebody a couple of weeks ago. Somebody told me that it was. Ad Library I use of what a clearly noninvasive program from panic software Call Code editor, which lets me log into my Server. with SSh and and edit files and things like that and it was. I got the same thing that you get on Iowa's fourteen O, coders looking clipboard every time I typed to character. Now I don't think coded only panic software famous for an FTP program and this H. Program is at spying on me obviously, they're not. they're using the same code library. So it's a, it's a, it's a bug. That's what Lincoln Microsoft's linked in said as well. So. I think it's also just one of those things where if you're building an APP especially in. The Tom I. Don't know there was a time when absence of for being built were there wasn't this conversation about security and privacy. Why would map designers not take the position of? Yeah. All the things maybe we'll need that information talk said quite credibly. We're just looking to see if you put a url on your clipboard so we can pasted in. That seems credible I. Don't know if you need to do it every single time I type of character that seems like more that book I can tell you firsthand from developing an Iowa it's often easiest just to get it submitted to the APP store to take a bunch of permissions and It's just it's like you're trying to debugging in. Store, to accept it is just quirky. I can't tell you how many times I in other APP developers have. Just it's a very, very quirky system. So I, think this is just in Beta. I think it's really important to point out as far as the impetus for this I personally do not think it's a coincidence that tiktok was widely credited for disrupting trump's Tulsa rally a couple of weeks ago and Sarah Cooper is so famous for she's making five star she's she's amazing and those videos are brutal to trump and I I don't. That's a coincidence. She does trump limps licks lip sync. And I was talking to a friend said you know is the trump on TV I can't understand what he's saying but then I watched Cooper and that makes sense Sarah ads expressions and Gestures and all kinds of makes sense all of us and so I don't think the president should be so quick to to not like Sarah purchase he's adding context Might have something to do with it certainly in his mind because we know. You know. I don't know what he's going to do to Cape Pop stands because they were the other the other group that apparently figured out that you could register took on trump's team has got to be wise enough to know you can't take on the capons stands. Being. The capon stands the United States would crumble. Yes. That would be it would be over right. You just can't win against the K pop stands So. They were both advocating people sign up for the Tulsa Rally and not not show and Honestly the fault lies with Brad Par Scout trump's former campaign manager and his campaign team for believing all those registrations and building a giant outdoor stage. Giant parking lot so that the millions of people who are going to be coming because they all registered would have somewhere to be, and then I loved. Well, I shouldn't say that that sounds partisan was interesting to see the one person with the baby stroller in that giant area and the rest of the arena half full or third full So I could see why he might be a little angry about that. Is there. No, Matt. And I'm not putting you in the position of speaking for the government I want to say that in fact, we should have said that. That Nazi for the. Federal government but you also having worked Akiko Google you understand how you know a little bit about how this stuff works the the there's not any proof that while way for instance, has ever done anything. Particularly Evil they've done some commercial espionage apparently, but nothing could particularly evil but there's the potential if they run the entire five G. Network that at some point, they could inject malicious software to the network or shut it down. Is What could Even even sounds stupid asking it. What could take time do? It's the forbidden APP. If you think about it if you don't have it on your phone, it could disappear at any time. No I think it's it's less about that although you do see companies like Amazon saying, Hey, on your work phone or work device please don't install. And they did it. Because they realize Oh we do business with these guys. Let's not this them off but wells Fargo did that I think the Department of Defense I don't know about you sds, but it's reasonable if you've got a company phone. Probably shouldn't have facebook or instagram on it either you right? Yeah. I keep my twitter and all that stuff very far away from work phone. It's my it's my personal account, but you know it's I can understand why people want to have just a a sense of okay. Let's be careful. Let's see what's going on and then You know just making sure that you can depend on the. Tools all the way down reflections on trusting trust. You can put things into a compiler, which then you can remove it from the source code and turns out that thing can stay in the compiler for years and years and years. So you know you don't WanNa be load bearing on any particular technology that you can't quite vouch for his guesses what people are thinking, what would be the legal? How could a president ban an APP in the United States I was thinking about this in the one thing the United States government is very effective at is We we we went after Isis in I sell at a very effective way instead of this Ip address to a recruitment site you can't access it. So my my guess would be the executive order would basically grafter the ISP's and say you can't go to this particular ISP but think about that I know of VPN products is sponsor show sponsored mind and to know how few seconds would take the average teenager together VPN account to just keep their tiktok going. Yesterday I downloaded the tiktok cap the first video that came up credit account 'cause I forgot my previous password was a if Tiktok it's banned. Here's how to get around it. You don't Vpn you can go into the settings, your phone, change your country of origin to Canada and then You're great. Exactly I mean it's not enforceable basically So I mean one thing Leo I think. Matt and I would probably agree that we do need to. I don't know if it's more oversight from the point of sale like on the APP store or Google play I I don't know if it's kind of an External Code audit policy for these kinds of APPs on their own by countries I. Think we agree we we need more oversight and we need to make sure all of these are not stealing data from people and just to get people very brief history lesson you know Edward Snowden had some very serious allegations about our own spying agencies using. Facebook to gather intelligence on people all around the world there's evidence for that. There's no hard evidence at this point the Tiktok is doing any of this. So if we're serious about doing this, the answer isn't to further balkanize the United States from the rest of the world the answers to form coalitions with other countries say look if you're going to operate here in, you know if you're gonNA have the software operating in our country here, the rule you have to follow you can't just arbitrarily download people's Phone books, there's going to be You know civil fights. That's clearly the way to go is got to be bigger than just tiktok. I'm just looking at Tick Tock on my iphone. It has access to my photos because I gave it access to my photo so I could put a profile picture on there. it gives me notifications I could turn that off. That's that's a push though that's not a poll. Background APP refresh means it can run in the background and cellular data doesn't ask for. location data doesn't ask for I mean facebook asks for ten times more. That's why I don't have it on my phone. I. mean the worst thing Tiktok does is waste millions of hours a productivity, and maybe that's a recent ban I don't know. But I, just I don't understand how it could be used. If it's not getting location permissions, how could it be used maliciously and I think it is getting location position. I know that I've know anecdotally at least from a couple of friends whenever they let's say go to Connecticut to visit family or something they will suddenly get Connecticut. Themed Tiktok content or something similar. Okay. that could just be from. Connection you can get that from the IP address so they could get a Geo location through IP address without asking APP without telling apple that they're doing that that would make sense. Okay. So they're getting them. Every cannon probably, I hate to say it probably does do that.
Microsoft to 'move quickly' on TikTok deal following Trump talks
"The last week Microsoft Been. Negotiating to buy the American rights to talk to kind of create a tick tick Tock America that would be separate from the Chinese bite. Dance. TIKTOK. But then the president says I'M GONNA ban it but I don't want anybody to buy it. So, micro-. Microsoft said. Threw their hands off and said figure it out and there. They didn't end the conversation with bite dance. Apparently, they were fairly close but they're not forwarding it until they find out what happens I'm GonNa make a prediction. Nothing is going to happen except now people are going to download and use TIKTOK. Brianna is tick tock a threat to national security. It's not a unique threat to national security. We need to have a conversation about the kinds of information social media APPS are able to download from our phones. We all remember the scandals of facebook on android downloading your tire phone list gang everyone you've ever called. We need to have a conversation about that, but there's there's really no evidence that what Tiktok is pulling is any greater than what you know facebook instagram these other social media sites are. Pulling so far. So we need a wider discussion about that. How's it just want to say I wish I could tell you this was just trump in the Republicans that would make me very happy. My heart broke today to see Chuck Schumer on the Sunday morning shows advocating the same thing tech talk. So you know it's it is we need to have a conversation about national security and the amount of information were giving up but it's I think. To just focus on TIKTOK. Sign of. Phobia. Or Zena Phobia Paris, you seem like a Tiktok user. I that's only because you're younger than. I. Did recently re downloaded when this whole. Wanted to make sure that I had it. I'm sure is a common response. I agree with everything the Brown said in the sense that I don't know I've been particularly disturbed by. The reactions to take talks, data collection both from the left and right and just. Experts in the tech field generally over the past couple of months because it is definitely coming from a place of seeing phobia. I mean, we have so many different. American. Made APPS that. Do many of the same things I mean one thing that I've seen noted quite often as to talk has the ability to see what you've. You know copied near Clipboard when guests so do most of the apps you have on your phone. Is Operatives. It's not a tiktok specific problem. This came up because of Iowa's fourteen, which is in public Beta now so people are suddenly using it and dozens of applications. I. Think must be a library that they all subscribe to infect somebody a couple of weeks ago. Somebody told me that it was. Ad Library I use of what a clearly noninvasive program from panic software Call Code editor, which lets me log into my Server. with SSh and and edit files and things like that and it was. I got the same thing that you get on Iowa's fourteen O, coders looking clipboard every time I typed to character. Now I don't think coded only panic software famous for an FTP program and this H. Program is at spying on me obviously, they're not. they're using the same code library. So it's a, it's a, it's a bug. That's what Lincoln Microsoft's linked in said as well. So. I think it's also just one of those things where if you're building an APP especially in. The Tom I. Don't know there was a time when absence of for being built were there wasn't this conversation about security and privacy. Why would map designers not take the position of? Yeah. All the things maybe we'll need that information talk said quite credibly. We're just looking to see if you put a url on your clipboard so we can pasted in. That seems credible I. Don't know if you need to do it every single time I type of character that seems like more that book I can tell you firsthand from developing an Iowa it's often easiest just to get it submitted to the APP store to take a bunch of permissions and It's just it's like you're trying to debugging in. Store, to accept it is just quirky. I can't tell you how many times I in other APP developers have. Just it's a very, very quirky system. So I, think this is just in Beta. I think it's really important to point out as far as the impetus for this I personally do not think it's a coincidence that tiktok was widely credited for disrupting trump's Tulsa rally a couple of weeks ago and Sarah Cooper is so famous for she's making five star she's she's amazing and those videos are brutal to trump and I I don't. That's a coincidence. She does trump limps licks lip sync. And I was talking to a friend said you know is the trump on TV I can't understand what he's saying but then I watched Cooper and that makes sense Sarah ads expressions and Gestures and all kinds of makes sense all of us and so I don't think the president should be so quick to to not like Sarah purchase he's adding context Might have something to do with it certainly in his mind because we know. You know. I don't know what he's going to do to Cape Pop stands because they were the other the other group that apparently figured out that you could register took on trump's team has got to be wise enough to know you can't take on the capons stands. Being. The capon stands the United States would crumble. Yes. That would be it would be over
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"And. Late today the president told reporters he mulling overtaking action against the social. Media Platform Tiktok we know this in large part because Sarah Cooper turned it into a video on tiktok tonight on the plane to Washington the president apparently went further. He wants to ban TIKTOK starting as early as tomorrow from operating in our country and about the talks of the Chinese selling Tiktok. Microsoft. He says he's against that
Tech's free speech debate is about Zuckerberg vs. Dorsey
"Many Americans are facing different realities disparities in covert nineteen deaths for one and right now they're expressing outrage over different things for some stay at home orders have moved them to protest for others it's police violence against unarmed citizens it can feel as though we're living in two different countries so we're talking about that today and one of the places where you can feel America's divide is social media we're divisions are also stoked by trolls and disinformation social media companies try to monitor that to varying degrees and with varying success but even that is divisive as we've seen this week when president trump expressed fury after some of his tweets were flagged by Twitter for potentially misleading information about mail in balloting then yesterday the company flag one of his tweets about the Minneapolis protest for quote unquote glorifying violence president trump signed an executive order aiming to weaken legal protections tech companies have had for years it's unclear whether he has the authority to do that but given all the events of recent days we want to talk more about this so we've called three prominent figures in this debate Karen Swisher is the co founder of Rico that's a site focused on tech news and New York times contributing writer has been pushing Twitter in particular to take far more aggressive steps in policing false information Swisher welcome back thanks for joining us once again thanks so much financial or is the executive director of aspen digital that's a non partisan organization that researches issues related to tech and digital media and she has a long resume in both digital and traditional media including as a president and CEO of NPR so we very much welcome back to you via thanks Michelle glad to be here Matthew Feeney is the director of the project on emerging technologies at the Cato Institute that's a libertarian research and advocacy group here in Washington DC Matthew Feeney welcome to you thank you for joining us as well no thanks for having me the cast which I'm going to start with you because on Wednesday you wrote an op ed in The New York Times this is after Twitter label to the president's tweets regarding mail in ballots as potentially misleading and they added some contextual information and you called this move a baby step why well it's the first thing they can do I mean a lot of they could have banned them they could have taken down the tweet they could have a lot of things but this is the first time Twitter is ever done any kind of I don't want to use the word punishment this is the wrong thing they've ever taken any action against president trump when he violates their rules which he does all the time you know we could spend a whole program talking about this will tell us more broadly what's your point of view about this well I think they are like publishers and so they have some responsibility instead they allow all district to wash over their platforms and in fact get taken advantage of by malevolent forces and so I think they should do more monitoring of it to fit first of all I love them just to get rid of some of the stuff that's obviously used for propaganda but they just let anybody do anything and what it does is create this sort of giant mass of humanity which nobody knows what is true or not and then other players take advantage of it Alex Jones was the most famous obviously he got tossed off all the platforms so you usually what I want to say you are here and your own capacity as a media executive as a person with a deep background in addition to working at NPR as a president CEO you also work for Twitter but I'm going to ask you on your own hook to tell us what you think about this week's news look I think Twitter has been slow on this I think they should have taken action some time ago that said these are really tricky decisions Twitter now that they've taken an action with the president it's going to be really difficult for them to keep up you know there are five hundred million tweets roughly that are sent every day and there are already calls across the board of what about this tweet what about that tweet and it's going to be very very tricky for them I'm glad they took the move but now the camel's nose in the tent Mr anywhere your thoughts I think this puts on not just with about other social media comes into a tough spot here which is that they are trying to figure out how to moderate this kind of content while remaining in the eyes of the uses the gentleman and it's not a surprise to me at all that in the wake of a good decision to fact check that they have been allegations of inconsistency but anyone looking for inconsistency and this debate is is short to find its there are hundreds of hours of footage uploaded to YouTube every minute there are hundreds of millions of tweets posted every day Hey the system won't be perfect and in fact the way that these phones tree contents depends not oftentimes on the Afrin content itself but what's being said about this and and that is something I wish more people understood in the debate which is a really really hard decisions and unfortunately causing a lot of people on the political rights in the United States of feeling bad somehow agencies would be better at this than private companies and while I think will will never be completely happy with how these private firms navigate these difficult content moderation decisions I would much prefer a private family of public failure in this film while some are because I think of the history of government regulation of speech reveals lessons namely that we should be wary office the fact is that social media is much more than Silicon Valley and their alternatives out there of course the the interesting thing about all of this is that in this debate many people on the Merican conservative space seem to forget that competition is is valuable there all of the social media networks out there well Mister you raised the issue that is it's you know we raising it kind of as a back drop here but it is actually a very big part of this whole discussion which is that there is this argument on the right which is certainly embraced by president trump that these companies social media companies are silencing conservative voices but Democrats and progressives have their own criticisms which is that these platforms have no standards and allow people to be libeled and slandered and somebody's very painful and in some cases dangerous ways I mean the data on the fact that women how women in particular women of color treated on these platforms and targeted particularly public figures who are women there's a great deal of data about the fact that and how they are targeted so she took care of so so the question then becomes you know how to do these things get address of care you want to jump in please do yeah I think let's be clear these are private companies they're not public squares and that's the one thing that seems to happen with the writer like my free speech rights be able to specifically you can't these are private companies owned by billionaires they can set whatever standards they want number one number two there's no evidence that there's any bias in anyway but there is evidence of his abuse of people of people getting abused by by the way on all sides and that's really the problem here is the ability to allow toxicity in lies to continue and that's something a private company should be dealing with but not legislated by the government there is there are certain things you can do and liabilities and things like that that media companies have had dealt with for for a very long time and so there's all kinds of solutions that are possible but I think the really problematic thing is considering these places to be the public square did you can do anything on me what do you think should happen here well I completely agree that there is no place for government regulation here that is a path to a very dangerous place but social media companies must take responsibility I applaud Twitter for actually making an effort here even though I think the path they're choosing is very difficult I was very disappointed in mark Zuckerberg's statements on fox news of all places saying that they don't want to be quote unquote the arbiters of truth they already are algorithms serve certain truths even if they're not human intervention involved they are going to have to I think eventually take some action the oversight board is a step but it's it's not enough we are in a moment now where these divisions have come to the fore we know for a fact that sometimes these mechanisms are used to kind of organize protest organized too really it globally certainly it is the case that they've been used both by people who are trying to find ways to resist government oppression but they've also been used by governments to advance oppressive mechanisms right so do they have a role here to play right now that you think would be constructive and I guess I'll start with you Kerr Swisher yeah absolutely they've been doing a very good job on cove in nineteen information they've been stamping out all kinds of bad health information except for president trump's they took down a bowl scenario they took down Maduro they took down a lot of stuff there and a lot of other stuff so during cove and it shows all of them Facebook Twitter all of them can do it and they can do it well and there was no controversy about that so they're totally capable but they're also capable of creating commonality look at all of the really wonderful stuff from Sarah Cooper to comics to people making jokes that can be used for commonality in a really positive way it's just they're designed towards in rage meant and that's the engagement is designed towards arrangement and that's
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