20 Episode results for "Sania"

134: Are You a People Pleaser? 7 Tips for Saying No.

SoberSoul Recovery: Addiction, Sobriety, and Beyond!

17:25 min | 4 months ago

134: Are You a People Pleaser? 7 Tips for Saying No.

"You're listening to the sober therapist silver. So recovery podcast episode number one, Thirty Four. Welcome to the sober. So recovery podcast here we shine a little light on the over use of alcohol and drugs as a way of coping with our everyday stress. Each week will explore ways to start build a master a sober life that you don't need to escape from. Hey how you doing it is finally cool here where I live in Georgia and I am excited I've never really been one to love the changing of the seasons because I do not like called weather but I don't know what it is. Lately I've really lately meaning the last several years I've really been embracing the change and even though it's raining today I'm loving it I know some of you may be in that portion of the United States that is overwhelmed with fire and smoke and difficulty right now, and my heart goes out to you I just wanted to. Say. A little something to give you some hope and that is we are with you. The world is with you I know many of my friends are struggling some of my clients are struggling. So I just wanted to identify that were there for your peeps hang in there. I also WANNA put a little plug in for my coaching programs. I recently downgraded downsized my website. So I sort of have a new look, but it simplified for me because I. Am all about clarifying this year and simplification I may even carry that word over as my. Word for twenty, twenty, one simplify and to that end I very much put that in practice for my private practice in Peachtree city and in Georgia and in Minnesota and then also online for my coaching practice sober. So recovery coaching. The. Sober Therapist coaching So you can check that out. I have a number of packages that you can choose from, and if you would like, you can go ahead and schedule a complimentary explore call with me. It's thirty minutes of time between you and I to Kinda. See how I can help you. Okay. Let's get into today's topic saying no. This one's for all of US people pleasers out there who find it difficult or? Finding ourselves regretting saying, yes to things we are putting our needs before other people and we're also looking for affirmation insane. Yes. Two things you might remember I talk about. Different types of communication there really only three when you're looking at. The big scope of how we get our message across to people were either passive were assertive or were aggressive and sometimes aggressive impassive meet in the woods and have a little thing. But for the most part, you can see along that spectrum of passive assertive and aggressive where you fall. If we're on the aggressive side, we tend to let things percolate until we attack. We often do this with those. We love the most the ones we take for granted. We stay no aggressively stepping strongly into this false sense of power about with no regard or attention to the connection with the other person in passive communication we accommodate we say, yes. When we really really want to say, no, this brings us a temporary false sense of peace. But leader, we have apprehension we have rumination and then resentment we defer to the relationship with no regard to our power and ironically end up undermining the very relationship that we want. To sustain or not cause trouble in, we also avoid in this where. Passive and aggressive meet in the woods. We don't prioritize our personal sense of power or the relationship in other words everybody loses. We dishonor ourselves and amp up our own discomfort by leaving something unresolved and disrespect the other person by not providing them with an answer but instead provoking them silently through manipulation and articulating our needs in a very passive aggressive way sarcasm the no is one of the first steps toward healthy boundaries and often times. It's freaky scary and this is because people have been accustomed to coming to us for things for answers for doing. And we let them. So when they come to us and want to ask something we get flummoxed we get. Locked and loaded into our own discomfort because we really want to say no but they need us and we therefore are pushed in to the ritual of Sania. Like any other type of problem solving in recovery, we need some kind strategy, some kind of practice to help us get to know easier. To give us time, for instance, give yourself a pause before you answer. If you're having difficulty doing that. Structure some time before. In your off time to predict and play through how you're GONNA say, no a helpful strategy that can enable you to say, no with greater ease is gaining this clarity around things you want to say, yes to make a list of your top three priorities an understand that the change. Post these priorities around your house or you're going to see them, you're going to reinforce what's important to you. When someone then asks you to do something that takes your time and energy away from those things that you want to say, yes to fill free to answer the inquiry you know with. Now. I have things I need and what to do and want to prioritize those. Sound. So easy I know. Yet if we don't practice this in sometimes I, need to do it when nobody else in the room I've mentioned before that I have these kinds of discussions while I'm taking a walk so I can practice being clear and confident. Concise and consistent in my message. I practice not giving too much information. Keeping. It simple. I do this so that I limit the amount of challenges I get to my no letting the other person know that I hear them and Yeah I've probably said Yes to this a number of times. But I'm restructuring my priorities that I need time to do the things that are important to me. Another helpful strategy is to have some kind of phrase that you use. So for all of YOU PEOPLE IN SOBER land out there refusal skills. This is what I'm talking about here. It's the same kind of thing. For example, you can say, I have a policy and you can do this tongue-in-cheek. To say, yes, to things that serve me now to that really helped me embrace my priorities in life or you can say I'd rather say not now rather than disappoint you later that's always a good one. Or make something up that seems reasonable to you. Maybe. You've decided that you want to limit your volunteerism. Say that. This is the practice of the double ps being proactive and being prepared. Underlying the entire concept of saying no is authenticity. It's an easy ish and quick way to build that self-esteem baby inside of you to nurture it. As always, I did a little search on Google and came up with some really good tips from Irene Levine PhD who is known as the friendship doctor and she has seven tips for saying, no tip number one don't wait until you're fed up whether it's a spouse lover or friend when you squelch your feelings, you're eventually going to explode. You can ignore little things but if your friend But if your friend has really upset you or is. Doing something that's grading on you by doing the same things repeatedly don't let ill feelings fester too long initiate that discussion about the problem when you're calm and before you have this build up of resentment. Number to try not to feel guilty, you cannot say, yes to everything. Even the best of friends don't always agree or see eye to eye. Your friend may think it's perfectly reasonable to ask a favor of you but you're GonNa have times when you feel otherwise and true friends. Need to be sensitive to each other's feelings and being willing to accept. No. This is reasonable. This is healthy. Tip number three if someone can't accept no for an answer, it's about them not you often times people are overwhelmed. And take us for granted because they can lean on us. In order to break that cycle. We must say, no because we also know that that's too much for us. It's the only way. Toward true friendship and honest and authentic connection. Well thought the only way, but it's one good way. Going back to preparation carefully consider why you've decided to say no saying no. Always has ramifications for a relationship. So talk to yourself. Decide why you want to say no, why you might need to say no. And sure double check to whether it's appropriate to the situation. Saying no for the sake of saying now is not a good test of your boundaries. It's mostly when it seems and feels unreasonable to you. So examine the situation really get to know your wise number five tried to say no as graciously as you can here's the difference between waiting and letting things percolate it doesn't have to come off as harsh. It's only because we've let it fester that we fuel is need to be aggressive. Assertiveness is all about what's okay with you and what's not okay in you can actually verbalize this. Without being A. B. Or a madman. You might say I. Wish I could but you know I just really can't. Providing this reasonable. Calm. Explanation why you're say no. We'll help you feel better. and. Hopefully the other person as well. Tip Number six when you are both relaxed or if it's a group when nobody is a little bit more calm. Talk about limits and boundaries. Even the best groups in friendships require tune-ups to remain healthy and vital. Good friends need to be able to communicate with each other. On a regular basis. Opening up new topics of conversation to better your friendship if you feel your boundaries are being violated. It's time to talk about them earlier rather than later in number seven if you are unable to say, no. Even when you want to. Find out what's holding you back. This perpetual need to say, yes, the inability to say, no. Often comes because. Self. Confidence. Self esteem is lacking. If you have. This problem and it's interfering with your relationships, your personal or professional. Interpersonal relationships you're GonNa want to talk to somebody about Ed, this is the kind of thing that doesn't get better over time. It makes us feel worse. It takes us away from ourselves. It inhibits having a healthy relationship shore with other people but more importantly with yourself and. oftentimes, it's so deeply embedded in our need to stay safe and to please those around us so they don't hurt us even if. Times have changed and people aren't hurting knew in the same way. You're going to need help to unwind from now. So reached out to a counselor someone who actually knows how to talk. To people about their pasts. If you feel a coach can help you go for that but make sure they have proper training. The important part here is to keep building. That self esteem that we know. We in the Biz no can help you work through many different difficult situations in your lives, and if you can harness your own internal power. To Sane. No. You will get to a better knowledge of. What's okay with you? What's not okay with you That discernment that comes from practice and discernment in Practice Lead to wisdom. And that's it for today short and sweet. Thank you all for the lovely notes that I receive every week. I can't tell you how nice it is to get that feedback and Yeah. You guys have been so wonderful take care be well and I'll talk to you. Thanks for listening to the sober. So recovery podcast with me, Linh. Matty if you like my show and want to learn more checkout sober soul recovery dot net or please leave me a nice review on itunes. Join me here each week where together we start build and master sober life.

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JRPG Report Episode 139 - Bravely Default II Data Dump

The JRPG Report

34:03 min | 2 months ago

JRPG Report Episode 139 - Bravely Default II Data Dump

"Hello friends welcome. Back to the podcast. This is your j. rpg report episode. One hundred and thirty nine. And i will promise you one thing right now. There will be no politics. Discuss on this podcast. We've got enough of that garbage going on right now in the united states. So we're gonna be talking about those games that know and love so much games like the incredible trouser cold steel for which i am still in. Act one by way. Apparently these acts are ridiculously long over ten hour mark easily. And this thing just keeps on keeps on a chugging not sure how many acts there are but having a lot of fun if you are curious about the game and don't mind it being spoiled doing live streams each night. Uh sometime around like nine thirty or ten. Just wanna get going. And i plan to get tired About midnight or so. There's going to be short podcast. Go ahead and tell you guys. There's there's not a ton of stuff out there anyway but As i mentioned before i did had to pick up another part time job and i'm supposed to be there in like an hour so yeah we'll just see if we can knock this one out real fast First thing we won't talk about we've a ton of f. o. To go over so this is going to be our lead easily today came. It came out. So i'm happy that it did We talked last week about the release date for bravely default. Who and let me get to the word. Yeah february twenty sixth of next year worldwide for the switch and perhaps not surprisingly there was a massive data dump this week and we learned about the characters the world these systems and the job so first. Let's start with our characters. There are four main ones. The heroes of light first seth. He is the protagonist. He's a young stellar washed ashore on the continent of excellent. Adr meeting gloria. The princess ruined country robbed of its crystals. They set off on a journey together to find the crystals he's me. I think this is being who we talked to. You know a little bit about final fantasy sixteen in its focus on the crystals and sounds like they're wanting to maybe do away with that whole system and square innings is chosen to kind of focus on crystals again in bravely default. This was a always been a main theme in final fantasy games. It certainly bleeding over to bravely default as well next. We have gloria of musa. She's a princess of. Musa a country that watched over the peace of the world. By where the crystals but when the grizzlies were stolen the country was doomed to ruin address gaping and remaining hiding. She sits on on a journey to recover the crystals next we have perhaps the coolest name of geography g cater. Ever elvis laszlo. I can't help. If i say the word laszlo mealy makes me. Think of grand theft auto. That's just that's just the way my brain goes. He is a scholar who travels the world. He's on a jury in search of the asterik necessary to decipher the magical book. Master doesn't look like a typical jr type character but apparently that is his role and they have a dale fain. She is a mercenary for hire as she says often a journey with elvis as his guard in search of said magical book next i talk about the world and they call it a warm miniature garden esque world and at the pretty accurate description of Lit tomorrow i know a promised slide shows before. But i've downloaded all these. And i should have some time tomorrow. I think there was about fifty new images to go along with this story. So i'll put those into slide show and put the video up on youtube so you guys don't have to flip through all these really cool to see this one in action They say various worlds felt the continent of excellent which is where the story is set. Ask what awaits our heroes flu. Set out to accomplish their goals That's really that's the first thing we know we're gonna talk about how siani ah which is the country of the spring breeze a cynic country rich nature and led by king procedo who has known as a great soldier gained independence from the country music and the north about four hundred years ago millions of the nation for its assortment of delicacies. Then there Here's some of the characters i as sloan was noah's a blue forest. Amanda mars greatest swordsman and all the content excellent prince gloria's loyal retainer. He served the country music but escaped to gloria. He escaped with gloria sania address downfall. He's the one in that initial trailer. Who says i am no here. No warrior of light so perhaps used to be that was pretty cool as information on procedo. He's the king of how sania while known as a master in the military arts. He is highly trusted by the king. The people thanks to his fair and just leadership his a kind king who shelters gloria at her country falls to ruined spurs. No effort and cooperating to rebuild. Musa another character is called dadge. Rampage a mercenary. Who was teamed up with selene while he may be a rough and reckless man does whatever it takes for a payday. Once he was convinced of something. He's passionately single-mindedly about. Here's the thing for selene But she is way out of his league and the aforementioned selena sharp minded and level headed woman who works alongside day. she's a veteran mercenary. Many battlefields keeping the rash tag. Under control it talks a little bit more about the systems. We know about the the brave and default Things from the first game they say. In addition to a traditional turn based bow system that come on jobs and abilities. You can enjoy innovative in strategic battles unique to the bravely series about taking control of your turn severe the brave into fault system. The key to victory in battle is determining win. Or whether or not you're brave or default while managing the brave points you enable as you act by using brave you can get an advance on bp perform to four consecutive attacks by using default. You can guard while gaining. Bp the jobs and abilities each character has a main job and a sub job by combining jobs. You can handle two abilities at once. You can write an all rounded bouncing the in an offense and defense. Perhaps a character that specializes in magic your tactics and hey develop. Each character are up to you. I like that kind of ideas. Job systems can be a little daunting to me. I'm not i kind of like them. Just being assigned a role that can change at. Perhaps if i want to but sometimes it's just a little too much for me not like a little more simplistic but this sounds like a prequel system. As where as well they say asterik holders can often block your path forward. You can buy the feeding them. You will obtain an asterik which enables you to change jobs. That's pretty cool Some of these other jobs that they're going to talk about The freelancer in average shaw with no special tells they possess abilities. That can make adventure at self easier. As well as provide cover for party members the vanguard is equipped with heavy armor and a shield and they attract enemy attacks. Course you have to have your white major. They use a lot of magic such as recovery and support to increase the survival rates of other party members. Black mejia's our experts. That can do away with several enemies at once using powerful magic. There's the monk character in attacker that fights using nothing but their fists they'll powerful blows. You have your thief of course with high evasion action speed and they can steal various items from enemies so yeah tons of information there. As i mentioned there was a lot of really good images that went along with it to try to have that up sometimes. Mar iffy us to check out. All those details remember brady to to is due out for the switch on february. Twenty six of twenty twenty one and that is going to be a worldwide release date. One other thing. I want to quickly mentioned before i forget. You'll notice the lack of something that's been in our podcast for a while. Now and that is the ask from anchor This past week they put a pause on them. And i went to check today. There's actually no more anchor ads. There's no more opportunities for ads period. And you know. I think earned about a penny east tom that somebody listened to the ad which doesn't sound like a lot it does add up and did give me at least a few dollars from anchor so you won't get any break in at least in this episode. We don't have any sponsors to mention right now. So one thing i want to mention. We'll do this. Let's just say until christmas time ripe. I'll probably make each week Basically have two choices moving forward as far as what to do with ads. There is a opportunity called pod cord which basically matches you up a certain advertisers. I have to kind of go seek them out. Bid on things get acceptance blah blah blah. and then. of course you get to listen to an ad every week. I don't really want to do that. It's a lot more work involved. And i'm not really good at sales. I'm not in that field. So here's option to and there are some awesome individuals listening to this right now. Who have already done this. Page on earth through anchor and you guys support this podcast financially. As i mentioned our had to take another job so time is limited. If you guys love what you hear each and every week and sometimes on the weekends please consider supporting this financially You can do it for as low as a dollar through anchor. I think the lowest tier you can do on pay china's two dollars if each and everyone and you guys did that. I'd never have another ad again. You don't have to hear it. I won't beg for your money every week. It'd be kind of a win win so we're going to do like a little push each week now until christmas and i'll see where it's at If a bunch of guys sign up for this deal. I won't have to seek out sponsors if everybody says i don't care about ads i'll listen to it. That's fine that's your choice But i do have to do something to kind of offset the time spent on this and that is one way. I can recoup some of those costs for tom in trouble so consider that like. I said you know as low as a dollar or two if you wanna do more than that super awesome. But we'll see how that goes kinda. Give you guys the results. After christmas as what we're going to to do going forward one other way. My bill to make a few dollars is to youtube. In their partner program Won the their two requirements for monies through youtube. That's yet have one thousand subscribers have like four thousand watch our minutes. In the past year we went over five hundred last week. I think we're like four or five thirty right now. Sorry five hundred total so once we reached that mark that is cool and If you guys haven't already go give a subscription over there on youtube. I do daily videos as soon as i find trailers. I tried to put on there like i said with the slide. Show a try do those well. So let's talk about a few things quickly. That are going to be Over there that you can check out. The first is a new debut trailer And air no search dx These are japanese pieces as of right now they put out a new kind of showed off some of the game play and the same that you'll be seeing in that. I've got that video over there as well as From that livestream that they did a piece together about ten minutes of just pure game. Play in scenes from the games clipped them together. Put on there. So if you're curious about this game you've got the trailer and you've got the Live stream footage as you can go and see. This is a very japanese game. I don't know we're going to get this one or not. If i had to bet one way or the other. I'd say no but you just you never know is do allen in japan on january twenty eighth so we're going to hear anything about it it may be fairly soon There is a new official story trailer for mary. Skelter finale. They put that up an out of got that linked on youtube. This one is due out for. Ps forum switch on november fifth. So it's out today. In japan still no word on a western release Linen towards we may not get this one either the previous to dig. Come out of believe so. I'm not sure why they wouldn't do this. One but just haven't heard anything on it Quite yet if you're looking forward to muster hunter rise. There is a six minutes. I think i long. Yes six many gameplay video that shows off the great sword in action. So if you're looking forward to this one and you wanna see Dude swing around his great sore. You can see that for several minutes. Nelson introduces the flow of the hunt and to mute companions in the video. The hunter is going after the bird. Wibran incan assam shrine ruins. Sorry i don't know how to pronounce these things. I do the best i can. Another interesting video is for the Near replicant game coming out. It's quote snow white edition. This is a short trailer for the japanese of this Includes a copy of the game. The grim war set scripts set to soundtrack and a special box. The western version will release will include the same content as well as a steel book case. I'm not sure what the price is on this. I'm sure it's not cheap. Shorts over one hundred bucks easy for for all this content if not it may be a lot more than that Actually i don't have a link to to see how much exactly is but it's really not cheap. Game was pretty awesome. Probably just the standard edition on this one listed Ends up going on sale somewhere so you can check out all those trailers over on our youtube channel. There is a new one and on today. nippon ichi released new for the dungeon rpg. Labyrinth of galleria. Coming of dusk. So you can check that out. They also detail the new they call it. Games facets which are basically. It's classes there is the astro crow which are ninety worshipers ravens and the power the stars known as the astor they kind of got a giant lance in their hands. They look pretty cool. There are the rapid vitor and these are crossbow users. They have what's called. The peer fortress the vanguards that we talked about before they specialize in defense and they have wild weapons called qatar. Like a shield but Can use as a weapon. Rain from the nearby carnivals made it looks like and then there is a maja made which i'm guessing is your z. Especially attacking and healing using a magic dahlem. Kind of looks like a lamp on the end of a long stick. You can check out that video over in our youtube channel. Lastly we talked about that That same livestream Also had to the who footage so in addition to the opening movie that came out featuring the theme song somewhere now. I'm sorry some win somewhere. Some win is that of word i guess. So there's by. The japanese musical trio clamp on. So if you've been itching for some new clam on music you can check this out. So that's the opening movie. It's pretty short They did the livestream footage thing as well. A piece that together again. About ten minutes of footage from that latching put together and made it into a video on youtube. This game is looking pretty outstanding. I'm very very excited for. Its north western release on january. The twenty sixth in north america and january twenty ninth over in europe. Couple more fun things to talk about with you guys if you Have been kind of gone away. From monster. hunter world is borne. You can get back in there and get some free packs for a limited time. Only this is the new hunting party. Pack and this will be available from november fifth. That's today until the twenty sixth. You get a gourmet voucher times thirty. The megan nutrients. Tom's one hundred nursing extract. Get one hundred of those. The wet fish fin hundred of those and the great sushi sushi fish scale a hundred. Those of course you can only get that pack one but i guess they're trying to get some some people to jump back in there and Play the game again. some you can play right now as well as the demo for giant quest eleven s echoes of the elusive age. Definitive addition way. Too long title you can Play that right now. For playstation four xbox one m cvs team and the microsoft store. Our friends at square innings have announced the dental feature the beginning of the game for up to ten hours of contract of content. That's a pretty solid demo I'm sure they're trying to get No players like myself. Who may have played this before. And like all right you can see exactly all these changes that are in here. Get a good taste of it. The best part. And i love it when demos do this. You can save your progress and then carried over into the full game. That's i really don't know why more developers don't do that. I mean there's only so powerful you can get in a short amount of time and the last thing you wanna do is really love. Something put some time into it then had to start all over again so you can check that out right now. The game will be launched worldwide on december fourth. Of course it. You can get this version of the game for playstation four as well as the you know regular old edition for peace for steam and or ps. Four spill team isn't it i thought so. Anyway dragon quest will have an announcement next year next year will mark the thirty fifth anniversary of dragon quest. Twenty twenty one and to commemorate the event crater yuri horry has said there will be various announcements to his regime. This all came During the drank ten fall festival. Back on october thirtieth he said quote. Thank you very much for today. Next year drank. Plus will celebrate. Its thirty fifth anniversary. I believe we will be able to make all sorts of analysis in regard to that. There's still a lot of fun. Look forward to in drink. Tan ozzy was speaking to that crowd and a japanese quail. I we don't get that fun and drank west ten over here. Please continue to support during pitcher and thank you very much. There are several titles already in advanced. Were mentioned before like that. At drank of die game New drank monster title But the thing that everybody is looking forward to and really this would be the you've got to announce at least announced this is. Maybe you have some sort of opening trailer for next year. We should get something on quest twelve. I can't imagine them passing up an opportunity on the thirty fifth anniversary of the game not to formerly show to the world. This new vision for dragon quest on next generation consoles. I cannot wait to see how this thing looks. On playstation five is should be beyond incredible very very exciting. I mean win. That's going to happen. He didn't really nailed on anything other than next year. So i dare say it'll be a while once they're ready and soon as i hear something i will let you guys know all right. That's wrap this thing up kind of racing against the clock anyway so if it feels like i've been on a shot clock There was a new trailer. it's formation for savers of sapphire wings and the stranger of sources revisited. It has a now a western release date for switch. Mp cvs steam on march the sixteenth. Twenty twenty one. In north america march nineteenth in europe and march. Twenty third in oshana publisher. Ns america in developer experience announced These are remasters of some old vide games. I believe that's originally came out for Some of the key features in this Remastered nights assemble muster. All your might and cutting to front the forces of the overlord of darkness assembly. Your party develop your own style. With traps and tactics exploit your enemy's weakening elemental weaknesses to become the most powerful servants of darkness. They say bound by battle lead allies into battle and keep them alive to strengthen your bonds and unlucky true potential off the battlefield have one on one conversations with your comrades to discuss their history and outlook on your ventures. The module bill with your allies will be the true bullard against your fight against the overlord of darkness. the your now hunters darkness. Turn the tables on the dozens of evil by setting traps to corner the elusive in dangerous monsters and feed them to obtain rare and powerful treasures. Say revisiting stranger of sorts city. Put your dungeon delving skills to the test and another thing venture with stranger of of your visit. This classic rpg comes with digital content including expenditure creation options in game events and new items and equipment. So if you are curious about what exactly. This game is well. I shouldn't have to say this but you know where to head over to the j. rpg. Report youtube channel. And you can check this out with a ton of everything's including the kind of debut trailer for this game now. This is not a happy. Jay we do talk about some Up of this way. If i see a turn based battle system. I'm probably going to talk about it because it my mind. That is jerry. Pg inspire and you know we do play games outside that realm. One of those. I believe is going to be ruined the king a league of legends story. I don't play league of legends out really care about that but this does let cool. It is just an animated trailer. There is no game play shown offered however this game is supposed to be coming out in early twenty twenty one for playstation four xbox one switch. Pc and then soon thereafter ps fav and new xbox series publisher riot forge developer airship syndicate announced of course users who purchase the current gen versions will get the next version For free I'm mentioning this. Because in particular airship syndicate you may not recognize that Developer but they developed battle chasers night war which i love that game and in particular really enjoyed that battle system and the graphics very much. Remind me of that anyway. So i'm looking out for this one. I thought at least put on guys radar a my body. Chris sent this to me originally and thought it sounded interesting now. He's a huge legal legends fans. So i understand why he in particular was really looking forward to this one but he pointed out to main thought. Hey let you guys know about if i hear anything more on it out of that. Especially if we see some gameplay footage that would be that'd be ideal say this kind of cg and Kind of setting the stage for its but it was kind of a debut trailer so you don't necessarily expect to see too much like that If you've been joined an impact which i fou- thoroughly enjoyed it right up until cold still four came out and then i dropped it like a bad habit. We'll pick it back up when i'm done Probably in between cold steel. Four and Today risa to but one point one impact is coming out on november eleventh media announced. They're dubbing this one. A new star approaches new four new characters new quiz three full. Exa quest in the course. Jerry lawn will be added including the grand finale of the leeway chapter plus characters pacific cyclist. There will be a new unreconciled stars. Seasonal event for weeks New reputation system. This system gives players a separate rating for each city as built upon completing activities in the surrounding region but a reputation offers original exclusive rewards including customization options and new items. Speaking of new items are new tools. Include a portable way point portable stove treasure compass and those resonance stones. The day will also at a wind catcher item which stores in an e bike. Straight on on demand wing. Kerns line from were exploration. There's new monster cameos and it does say that. It will be playable on playstation five with improved graphics and faster. Low tom so i'd be curious if this is going to be. You know something. You could port the playstation four version over to in all your character progress. Our definitely not want to start over again as i got pretty far into the game but Whenever i do get that. Ps five be nice to be able to carry that one over as well do quick last things to Put him in then. We'll put a lid on this episode. there have been details on the digital deluxe edition and the There's also a digital edition with the season. Pass going to be available for a tilly. arise it to. This is just japanese. I'm assuming that we're going to have a western versions of these as well Yeah so the digital edition is going to include the kurkin island collection tour which increases the number of collection points. Players will be able to access additional content. Includes thirty seven costumes player. We will slipped from including summer outfits digital four will also include four types of useful items in the early game in total of one hundred thousand gyms at muse to build and rebuild facilities. And of course if he had that season pass is going to add all the things that come out for it post released in firms of dlc cost on this the digital ducks solution will go for about ninety five dollars and the one with the season pass is roughly a hundred and thirty eight so it's quite Quite a lot of money but that is pretty typical added. No they pretty much exactly what they did with the first one Yeah probably just pick up the regular one. I will say this though they. This past have been a good value based on how much the prices are the additional. Dlc was post launch. The only problem with roseanne particular was it was kinda short gain so the fact that they added character episodes for each character after that and then charged a v eight bucks per character or something like that that. That didn't sit well with me. Didn't have any interest in one though too much more about the characters anyway Love the game don't does not mean have to love the deal see for it to be fair so one last thing. I want to mention and i shared this On our social media channels was there was an article on koneohe and the title of it was alleged. Heroes prosecco still four will intimidate newcomers. And i just sat there and scratched my head side and i did all those things. And so the reviewer says that. I've never played any ledge of heroes games in any capacity. That's your first problem. Why like why would you even do that. And why would you even think that that was a good idea to begin with like it would have been bad enough. He cold still games and then going for the fourth one and okay. Yeah i know. Previous games have never been like this. I don't need played the i. Ten dragon quest games to play drank costa web. I know i don't need to play the first fourteen. Final fancies to play if f fifteen. This series is different. And maybe i should just say that on the front of the package or something like hey you need the play these previous games. It's like you know. I'll make the analogy that you wouldn't watch turn the king without watching fellowship of the ring into towers. It'd be really really dumb to do that. You wouldn't understand any of it doesn't mean you enjoy what you saw in front of you. It just wouldn't make one iota of sense. And why would you do that. Why in the world would you do this. And why would you even put an article announcing that. It should intimidate newcomers to the point of they should never ever played this game without playing the first three. Ed just oh my gosh. I can't even begin to really just were why so waste of time. Don't read the article. That i sent you just fustrated and had to share it with you guys. And hopefully you can pick up on that fustration Give us a like on facebook. Follow us on twitter. Of course gives us over there on youtube and again consider your financial support to either anchor are or patriot on our greatly. Appreciate it and only buggy for the next couple of weeks or so to see how that goes as going to wrap up this one Yeah i just a little bit over thirty minutes. I knew i could do it. And so now i'm going to go get ready for work so guys if you want to catch me plan colts for every night and you can do so right about ten o'clock each night. You should be able to catch over on her youtube channel. That's where you find all of our livestreams but until next week. My name is james fisher. This has been the jr report episode one hundred and thirty nine until next time. Get back out there and level up.

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Unconscious Bias

Mentally Yours

27:11 min | 6 months ago

Unconscious Bias

"Mentally Oh. Focus on your mental health? You show regrets. Mentally. Entity, Men Today. Welcome to into the metric cody case weekly podcast about all things mental health I'm Ellen and that and stay, which has to procure girl well. She's a writer, speaker and behavioral scientists. She's join us on the podcast before twice most recently as a panelist on mentally yours live today. We're going to be talk about her new book sway. So you're joining us today to about a new book, Sway. What made you decide to write this? It's been. Longtime coming it was a combination of academic research I, did which was all about bias and technologies had been thinking about bias, and whose views represented and all the whole notion of power and hierarchy in data and I was working Lawton mapping technologies during my phd now so did that, but then also combination of my personal. Experiences as a woman as a woman of color as a woman in jammed the first IMMU lecture woman lecture appointment in appointed in a engineering department talk, leading engineers wideman the UK just navigating these spaces where you feel like. Sometimes you don't fit in you belong and then you kind of feel like you're part of the two words being almost British, but not quite Indiana, and all those kind of things and racially profiled at some point, having to talk to my twitter about race, but also sexism and misogyny all those things that the expediency your life, but that combined with my academic interest and research interests will interdisciplinary notional. What does bias and how it effects society kind of came together announcer allies that he below talking about a lot about unconscious bias in his working. Working with a number of organizations on diversity and inclusivity for a couple of years, and I was writing about it, but then it kind of was becoming like a trendy word, and people were just using it as a buzzword without really knowing what it means, and so I thought that really needed to know and do a deep dive into were Liamine unconscious by stuff in Detroit me a big crested by the o'briens. Worth is actually breaking down what it is. Yeah, it is a big question, and that's what the whole book is about. But in in brief, an Indus very simplistically, speaking is just biases within us those kind of 'em. Affect Us, our decisions and our judgments people on our interactions. which we sometimes are not aware of or reduced voice them or we don't realize them so so there are some explicit references like I would see I refer such vise, screen, or certain studio very explicit, but then when it comes to certain kind of. Implicit things that we have a template brain that are dependent on things we've learned to live these kinds of learned behaviors, but We don't know often that these are affecting the way of behaving and the decision making so those are our unconscious bias, and how can the book out people to understand their own personal biases and prejudices do what I really wanted to do. In a book is Great. This kind of non-judgmental, very non Peachy, and so a couple of people who read the book like Endless Sania indicate shook line, and and they also said that it's a very non-policy kind of non preachy attitude to to bias because people can get very defensive when you start talking to them or devices, and so I didn't really want to. Stand on my soapbox and talk about it, but in the way that I brought in research and facts and evidence, what functional stories also and combined a lot of different disciplines slowly and enter and kind of innovating accessible manner, I hope that s even region they become more aware of how these vices effect. Decisions and instructions in a way that sometimes we not one, but then it helps them gives them a space to actually start reflecting on, get on buses, and this is what people all the readers were reading. Are telling me that they hadn't you convey lie some things that they come across in the book and they are really becoming a Morterero. The kind of prejudices the might carry without them realizing it things they've learned and also wanted to talk more about not just the racism and sexism, but also Regina biases that you can talk about, but also other kinds of biases, helmeted biases like hindsight bias st to scope is in how we interpret information on how politics autism politics affects our view of the world, and on ageism and accents and also big areas. Technology in bias, really wanted to talk to all these things in we by bringing in as many. Studies personal stories and contemporary case as possible so that people get four fledged you a framework of bias. It's really interesting because some in the bookies you make a point to saying. Everyone carries biases. So I think. We sort of May think. Somebody. Says Racist Things. All somebody's sexist. But, then we don't think Oh. Maybe I have certain prejudices so. Yes, really interesting what I wanted to ask you about what you think about the schools the moment. Around the death of George Floyd because lots of people now talking about. Racism and everything, and it seems like on twitter and other social media. Things have got sort of. Fairly heated, which is fair enough? What are your thoughts on that? This is something that that is one of those things where people actively form this kind of notions of WHO's not part of the group, or who does not belong based merely on skin color, which is very stiff, stereotyping hooper, as this is very problematic in toxic because this line be active stereotyping about how whole communities and hold groups of people are homogeneous and dehumanized because of their skin color and and Wendy's labels and attributes that assigned to them then. tweeted different. They don't have the same opportunities. Don't have access to things. They also face worker, police, brutality, and violence, which is what we've seen recently on these conversations a happening now, and we are now moving towards at least not pig nap like ablation nearly folks about. Publishing Industry's in media industries, talking hearing how it's so systematic and so structures so from seeing one example we moving towards. That it's not just one person's problem. It's actually a systematic thing that's been going on for so long. It affects people in every walk of life and wore the gatekeeper. What giving the opportunities you talking about it and I think what is really interesting. The finally people are talking microaggressions which which affect so many people of color, these kind of Things that are brushed aside that are seemingly very small, but they really have a huge. Mental and physical impact to. Encounter them so I think these discussions are really good right now and I've been kind of watching and actively participating BURTT also. Being to talk about how to talk about race and racism, the children and I mean this is a conversation that the thing is that this is a conversation. That shouldn't happen just just now and I would. I am slightly worried about this momentum along to this time. And where is go and that it's continuing? People are going to continue this education and learning reflecting or rather once it's finished than remove move on with our lives and retreating back into our bubbles yeah, I mean. People are becoming more engaged about. How do we talk addresses amid our children, which it last, even the BBC woman's are thing I got so many abusive messages about how creating more problems by talking about racism, rather than actually solving anything in telling you that you follow blind and I address that in the book as well because it's a huge topic for me personally. as a as a parent, so I think good momentum. This is happening. I think we just need to be aware that even acknowledge the status and and the. Discomfort that some of these conversations quality on the fact that people don't realize the privilege they might have carried far riches, which when questioned can cause influence. As well, so I think those are some of the things. About definite so basically, some people who are getting say just simply shouldn't talk about it, and the best thing to do was to just talk about racism, and then it wouldn't exist is essentially what they were saying. They were saying that you don't notice as cholera new I mean. That's that's I. Think a lot of people view it as talking about Racism Anti Dejan John I just because my just came out in the US last week of Hustle, my US loveless Reddit em in, asked me anything, and by a lot of people were really. engaged. Genuinely, really interested in finding out more, there was some people who said you are dental. Getting end tonight to agent dot. People were talking about racism, doing that or indoctrinating children by talking more race and racism, and this should be made. A victim I'm genuinely think that unless we tackle these things, analysts with the children to be anti-racist and talk about racial justice, you cannot move further on the cannot really address some of these systems things that are happening in our world and yeah. I think that's what it comes down to. A for reasons there's discomfort is people will think that if you are guilty of maybe benefiting from partaking in racism, you automatically a bound person, your ratings, your awful I mean marks will be committing over awful acts, whereas does a really important distinction between bones and microaggressions, as you mentioned an unconscious biases. Can you explain a bit about why those seemingly small? The less obvious wounds of racism is still? They, still have an impact on our mental wellbeing in how we see the world. Yeah. I mean the thing. Is that obviously? Don't see very many ads of blatant. Hate crimes in the UK. And that's why there is this myth that we're living in a whole situation society and Constantly debating the racism still exists, but as you see now known as the color, and especially the black community, sharing that experiences of the the things that feast the to two different in different domains. From people from other people which have made them feel he other, which have made them feel like they don't fit the different that don't belong in this domain which which make them fee often thought. You be just the end that space, because even brought into kickable of diversity, and it's not because of their own some kinds of merit alone or dickey Matiz teas that can cause people to dull themselves doubt capabilities. Lord the Sanford seen. It can't the whole, and the biggest thing is that it can't because these are small often disguises jobs are just small troby comments. What did causes people to doubt themselves whether they're being oversensitive that. Reacting, but it's just in their head, or it's a problem that exists. You can never implemented whether it's to raise his own village due to something that it's personal personal, and that really causes. Anxiety and huge huge issues bisbee research to show that about how. It does that, but another thing about that is already people who are stereotype who are part of the marginalized community or part of vulnerable groups in the tap into domains. Already. Feel a know that they don't belong. They carry the stereotype threat which means that they they already these things. About them, not fitting. In fact that will be scattered type in about. They might be microaggressions. The already that effects, the mental health and the performance, which becomes kind of for prophecy the they don't performance-related, just not racism, but also like in sexism like women stepping into. Skimmed mean send mats and science groups as relevant if they think that they are not as good at Matt's as voice, no see that with a lot of people. I work with so. Those kind of things, pause and anxiety and stress and. The fact is that it's never easy to justify those comments, and but they awesome kind of rooted stereotypes that people and so y actively that person might not be fined to discriminate or prejudice a stigmatize. It still comes from a deep seated stereotype which needs to be addressed. Though. That is how migrations make people view. I mean. Now. That's what I mean. I found the book sort of interesting. Because you've Yugoslavia loads of research in that, but you do so I didn't. Suit of personal stories and stuff, and and you sensitive. You talked about when you became. an is a professor of engineering. Am User Experience microaggressions yourself that? I think they can sort of feel quite hard to pin down almost like it feels to me like he's like a death of thousand cuts more so maybe each individual comment isn't a huge thing, and that's why it's so difficult. Because if he went to management to say about that one comment, it could get dismissed, but it's the the cumulative effect. Is that right? I absolutely yes, on as we are seeing that. As, we are seeing now, keep a sharing their stories on social media. especially to judge is so many people talking about it. It does affect about the sense confidence of somebody who and say I deserved more in this space Utah. I deserve higher pay a deserve to be paid more I deserve to be. The more projects promotion have leadership. Those kinds of things that feeling that I deserve more can be really chipped away by. It's not something that you found difficult on a personal level. Have you found it since? Being instances, but I believe every person is different and I think I carry some sort of privileges of of being educated and all that, but still that doesn't mean that people haven't faced. But I will. I personally harried such an amount of kind of an armoire. I suppose all. Of that I do belong I. Carry that confidence that I, belong in space if I, step in it, and yes, a half as migrations appeased Woodley. Istanbul that. But. Some people might be more vulnerable than other. Some people might pack more. What by might be more fragile than others so I think it's been effect different people in different ways, but it doesn't. The problem still remains about who is able to step up and say. Something against it even if you feel confident, and if you feel like I'm not going to let this affect me are this is doesn't matter. Still. It's very difficult to step up and talk. Speak up against it. That is the the the problem lies about these microaggressions in the book. Cute also talk about bias in. Health professionals which I thought was fascinating because I think a lot of us think I mean you know. Get me wrong. We loved the NHS thank God for the done at least in the during the moment, but it was very interesting when you were talking in the About how basically because there will human, they will have biases whether they know it or not and. You mentioned how in the black people face by some health staff, and also that women are less likely to be taken seriously. Yes yes I when I wrote an independent Dodig, just before the whole lockdown pandemic started as well about tall vices might affect. The Black and other people look non black people of Color. is valued in this time. which is now what we're seeing that it is a high proportion of people of certain entities was succumbing to the virus, and although the discussion sometimes. Veer do liberalism that that perhaps there is some genetic differences I personally really strongly believe there because of the system against structural inequities that it, systems society. yes. It's there's a lack of resources show that he has locked. Women died more during pregnancy and childbirth is higher majority which -ality in black women, that is a proven fact, now that a lot of daytime there and yes, about how women bean is not taking a seat north. Overreacting, because there is this biased about how gender and emotion into sex, and and there is a truth about angry black woman, but also there's a drop that women are more emotionally that talk about in the book that our people have said that like copyright said that. Women are more emotional, less emotional, and so that you can rely on them more than these kinda perpetrate these kinds of stereotypes that women perhaps react strongly to pains or more emotionally to things, and there's these stereotypes which effect which will the Jefferson people and healthcare decisions are being made in Ray quake the, and even though they have a whole load of like already existing brain prostate expediencies. All the things that they have which state while backward by making these decisions, sometimes it can cause areas as well because because of certain stereotypes that might exist within society. And also about so you've had your own experience of this you mentioned in the book about. An experience with your daughter. I'm not sure how old she was when she was a baby. Was that right? Yes so I talk about whole notion of gut instinct, and how often told that we need to fall back on our gut instinct so I started the chapter with this anecdote about how? When my thought Tony, my twins was just one She was really ill and it had been like two three weeks. We've been going back and forth to the emergency. Food the Chat Children's hospital to our GP and every time we were being toilet justified as they can't find anything so just keep you around. Paul and Paracetamol and just giving the fluids and came to that we would actually putting some fluids in amount to syringe. Anything that morning she just looked real and we've been to the emergency the night before, and they'd send us back home again and that morning just picked it up. To the Children's Hospital which is half hour, Mars and the sad day didn't actually. was really insistent. admit hoped. I didn't in and I. Don't know whether it was a maternal instinct or Duchenne. Whatever you call it, we call it appearance thing sometimes, but it is accumulation of experiences that we have or maybe to finally steam and the admitted, and within like five minutes he had gone into septic shop and had heartaches, and she wasn't there bent. You could have lost that. So! So that was quite a nightmare situation underage. But I suppose I'm asking. Do you feel the health professionals in that suit? Assessing would not taking you seriously as they might have done if you'd been a Whiteman supercharging in there with with a kid. Yes! I don't know as being a woman of color of got used to this there. Where sometimes don't take you seriously? Because, just because you're either your woman or a woman of color and. And they are they are. It is research to show that so so it's impossible for me to say why they do not. Leave but the falling back on their existing templates to show that they this was not a problem. Perhaps and a sort this is this is why sometimes when people are making really quick decisions. Vices and prejudices, because then we are more likely to fall back on these kind of existing pre existing templates, which originally eras. What's the next step? How can we tackle that? How can we begin to kind of? Fix The massive issue lifetime experience, other stereotypes of is you say really deep rooted. Yeah. I think the issue. Is that every time? Somebody asked me this question. Also reading the book I think people come to. The book expected them. Cure to. Are That They doubt a template for them to follow the they can be rid of the unconscious bias, an extra cheek. The Tina Implicit Association test because a lot of organizations that I've worked with just get their. Applies to take this test and they get a score. They they just think. Oh, my score's very high, so I hear a lot of biases, things like that, and that's seen as a training that you've taken the and critique that in the book as well about how if you don't talk about it, and it's actually not a training, ground or unconscious biases and I did it. You cannot train people to rid of unconscious bias is the first step huge deputy you wanted to do with the book is make people aware of them and how is. CYSTIC structures, some of these vices an how deep. Impact Gandhi and we start thinking about this. We become more aware of them in our own actions, and it might seem like Oh. That's such an easy thing to say, but actually it's a very difficult thing to do every day, and we become aware of them. Educate ourselves. We need more slowly. Be become more aware of bed. Be Falling back on our stereotypes, and the affording back on our biases, and another thing is that some of the decisions as I save taken really rushed beacon fall back on vices, the other the step is that if you be recruiting somebody hiding somebody. What legal context then we China take a time to despise thing. Is that every solution or Debiasi with the on specify context I cannot say a police office of Hobday device would be very similar to how I would acknowledge vices, antidote or minimized, because the context is very different kind of biases that person might have or the nature of the vices holiday to fix. The work would be better different to me so I can't generalize framework in see followed. This ten cents planned to debate bias whoever? Anybody that I think is just a scam being. That would be. Like not! At? The important thing is well as H, not just a quick fix like it's ongoing work. It's not. Okay we've done the trainings dog. No, we're all good. Logging contests have half a day or one hour. Back is a fuss deficit step because? People think and be reflect detest to be an ongoing thing like right now. We're talking about racism and I think it has to read ongoing thing conscious top now. another thing is obviously. There's a lot of like stimulation. Experiments have shown that when nurses what ask to step into the patient's shoes by assessing being. Able to make a more accurate diagnosis, and that is stepping somebody else's shoes. We often talk about that. Like metaphorically, and so if you do that, that creates a kind of a more empathetic response to somebody to understand their perspective, and that is something that can be done a lot while we discuss microaggressions winstons because often. It's difficult to understand how a joke it supports a joke that we made has made the person fee quite like so targeted or yet how mid field but if you're trying to step into somebody else's shoes and try and. He'd from that perspective. Then it really creates a more we can be more aware of how our own biases and our actions have affected other. The IT's again. It's a simple thing to say and the seems various inputs eviction. It's actually a difficult thing to do because we often don't do that and find it very difficult to do that to. A situation from someone else's perspective on, and they are a few other things I. Talk About the book again. Nobody can give anybody a whole. Template curing them off unconscious bias, and taking the it is not unconscious, getting ongoing quenches bias, normal training one hour training doesn't get three to going to size though some of the things i. So. Enjoy. Me Meant! To. Mentally A! If you've been struggling with any of the issues. You've been chatting about today. Please give the Samaritans Ring on one, one, six, one, two three. You can also find them online at Samaritans Dot Org. You can find US online. 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How to build resilience in Kids

Raising Good Humans

28:25 min | 9 months ago

How to build resilience in Kids

"The following podcast is a deer media production. Welcome to raising that. Humans and Dr Pressman and today's episode is sponsored by minute. Friends at healthy messed healthy nest makes the most premium plant based staffers and wipes. That are safe for baby's brain body and our planet plus they are so soft so your baby will love them. Healthiness mission is to protect and enrich the full potential of every child during these challenging times. The healthiness team are working around the clock to provide diapers and wipes to everyone looking for the best for their baby and healthy nast raising the bar on transparency and safety for baby products when we need it. Most their products are verified by the environmental working group to see more healthy nesting dot com. That's healthy nest. I N G DOT COM. And if you enjoy this episode. Don't hesitate to subscribe rate and even write a little review. I would I would love it. So what is resilience? Even the most protective race to the rescue. Parents cannot shield their child's from every emotional. Hurt disappointment insecurity humiliation all the things that you can think that make childhood. Tricky that are just inescapably part of growing up. And it's the ability to bounce back and thrive despite hardships but his resilience. It's not singer born with C. Can't be resilient to not way you're not just you don't come out of the womb resilient rather you build this skill to be able to navigate and bounce back even thrived despite obstacles and that can be taught and developed Matsolo. Today's episode is about so picture balanced scale with adverse experiences on the one side to those are all the obstacles stressors and challenges and then on the other side coping skills. And that's what we're GONNA be talking about today. Those are things like optimism. Mindfulness perspective taking and then protective experiences like relationships. Having a sense of agency having a growth mindset those are on the other side when a child thrives and you can define thriving however you want. I think of it as socially emotionally academically despite a very heavy load of adversity on that scale. That's when you see resilience think about your child because temperament matters so who your child is is going to matter. How well does she cope with setbacks? How well does she react to frustrations? How does she react? Is it incredibly emotional? Does it feel like she goes from zero to sixteen really quickly or? Is there a slow rise? How does she recover from distress when the demands placed on your child outweigh her capacity to handle them? Would she do 'cause that's where stress comes in? And how does she recover? Resilience can be taught. And that is the great news and this is not just you know how psychologists make people feel better. There's tons of research on this and we can build resilience model resilience and strength and resilience at any age through various experiences and skills but a foundation for resilience is relationships. So what does it mean if the foundation of resilience is relationships? What does that mean for you? It means to prioritize closeness and connection to your child's so if your child feels loved unconditionally. Listen to seen encouraged and supported. That means she'll be more likely to be receptive to your guidance and modeling which have the potential to equip her with capacities that will benefit her throughout her lifetime. It's the combination of a supportive relationship and the adaptive skill building in growth experiences. That's at the foundation of resilience and with the protective benefits of an emotional and stable relationship extending to all adults whether it's aunts teachers neighbors or coach. So how do experience and skill building grow resilience? Were first of all. We need to talk about the benefits of seeking help when needed kids need to know and they need to see you doing it. So while being resourceful is important to resilience so I'm not saying that if your kids come to you with a problem what you do is fix it. That's not how you're reinforcing the idea of seeking help when you need it. What you're showing them is knowing when to ask for help so you WanNa make sure that your child knows that asking for help when things become too difficult or challenging is not a sign of weakness but an opportunity to get a different perspective to talk through alternative solutions and to feel less stressed and better able to manage thanks to feeling heard and understood by that close relationship so win a child for example comes to you because they've asked that they realize they've hit a challenge and they are asking for help. Don't just solve the problem for them. But sit and walk through with them how they can solve the problem with you sprinkling in guidance as needed so. Maybe you ask them. So what are your thoughts about what you WanNa do here? Do you want my advice or do you want me to just listen. You might say okay so walk me through. If if that's your plan what does it look like going forward? So you're just kind of sharing with them. How you process through problem solving you also can do it in front of them so when you hit a wall when you hit a challenge that you need extra support for let them see that you say you know what I think I need to to call so and so about this and get a little bit of advice we also want to encourage your child to take on challenges and healthy risk resilience needs obstacles and setbacks and stresses to grow so by encouraging her child to try things that she's nervous about or to take on tasks that she's intimidated by her confidence and willingness to take on future challenges grows and this can be anything. So we're trying to create small environments of adversity and stress. So that your child can learn how to navigate that those small things can be anything from a toddler having to really work hard getting their shoe on even though it's been so much easier to have somebody put it on for them or it can be when you have a teenager. Try a class. That seems a little bit too difficult for them but they know they can do it and they just need to give it a try and they might fail. But that's okay because if you don't focus on the outcome of the risk that they took so if they're going to take a really difficult class don't focus on the great big at so that if they do fail. You can in good faith in good conscience. Say Hey I know that it's not ideal that you didn't do well in this class but I have to tell you I'm so impressed that you gave it a shot cause it's so much easier to just take the easy way out so they can feel good about it and then be more likely to try it in other ways. Hello I'm Helen. Johannesson the owner of Helen's winds in Los Angeles. This is wine phase. My podcast that breaks down the INS and outs of wine to an easy digestible and more snack. Oh Ball level. We are dropping new episodes every Thursday. So grab a glass of wine. Gather some friends sink into the bathtub or listen to me on the go. Every Thursday wine face drops please subscribe rate and review can lead to hear from you and for you to listen along resist the urge to rescue. You really really really really have to fight this from the minute that you have your little one because all we wanna do is wrap them up and protection because we love them but fight back against the natural urge that is completely hurt of your parenting instinct. Because you WANNA solve your child's problems and explain away her upset teller wise. You needn't feel sad but by always rushing into the rescue by always giving a reason why they don't need to be upset not only children get the message that you don't think they're capable of handling things on their own but it also robs them of their opportunity to practice copen difficult feelings and stress and adversity and that the most important thing is that they have opportunities to practice things so that when the big stuff comes out then it's not unfamiliar and we know that we cannot create a world for them in any way shape or form that will remove ceilings difficult. So let's let them sit with those feelings and learned that they can survive even having difficult feelings. Which does not mean that. You don't empathize in fact empathizing with your children is an important part of building resilience so when your child has an intense reaction to a negative situation no matter how ridiculous no matter how dramatic. It sounds or babies. She think it might be avoid dismissing belittling explaining away shaming. You WanNa connect with your child through that empathy because empathizing with her big feelings does not mean that you agree with that. It just means that you hear her that you see what she's going through and that you understand how she's feeling maybe not with regard to whatever it is that. Cetera OFF IN THE FIRST PLACE. But you have absolutely felt just as out of control and you have had similar reactions about other things so just empathize with the feelings themselves. We all know that feeling heard and understood by anybody that loves US helps us feel more calm and that gives your child Com to give her brain practice managing those overwhelming emotions and then when she has big feelings triggered another time she's going to remember that and get better at handling them. Dr Dan Siegel who has been on the PODCAST. A couple of times always says you have to name it to tame it and it's so true whenever you respond with emotion. Identify the feeling that you believe she's experiencing so that you can help her name it. You might say something like I can see. You're feeling very frustrated that you can't go outside. Describe what you see. I can tell you're frustrated because I see her. John Hands are clenched. And you stomped your foot. Your child has to be able to identify the big emotions. She's feeling and the body's signals that go along with it in order to be able to manage it and to take back control. Just remember name it to tame it and don't be afraid to talk to your child about her brain like a scientist talk to your child about our brain controls which she feels and how she reacts to things letter no depending on her age that when something makes her feel threatened or afraid the amid della in her lower brain which you can call her lizard brain of. She's younger although I say it to. Adults THAT LOWER BRAIN. The emotional brain sends off an alarm which is supposed to travel to her upper brain. Her thinking brain were prefrontal. Cortex is housed where it will be evaluated and the prefrontal cortex that wizard bringing will evaluate whether it's really a big deal. Something to set the alarm bells off or not. And if it's not says you can come down. Don't worry about it. That's basically a description of stress response. The thing is that sometimes when the alarm is too strong and your lizard brain because he just had a very intense emotions that brain shuts down communication to the prefrontal Cortex to the wizard brain. And all the logical thinking that you can get from it it. Basically it hijacks your brain and it makes you have really big reactions and do really often. You know regrettable things resilience contingent upon the capacity to activate that wizard brain so it can evaluate and determine false threats and reverse the physiological changes that are activated by stress remember when I was describing like clenched fists and You know stomping feet. Those are the physiological signs at that child was frustrated. We need our wizard brain to reverse that response and help us to take a breath and expand our capacity to cope with to adapt to or to figure out what ever it is that set us off in the first place so when your child understands what's going on in their brain it's easier for them to name what's happening. Which makes it easier to team. What is happening? You also WANNA model and teach your children coping skills to instead of dismissing or criticizing your child for the big reactions that you're seeing and the negative behaviors which inevitably can increase feelings of shame and escalate address regulated response. I mean think about the last time you were upset. If somebody just tells you to calm down or says you're blowing it out of proportion. Does that help? It usually does not help. It usually makes you feel so you want to discuss the various coping strategies that your child can use to help manage those big feelings better before they become overwhelming. So it's important that you also recognize how you typically respond to stress and setbacks because if you tend to overreact and fall apart the thing is that your child is more likely to. Its well so even before you go into anything else about your child's reactions you can do a tremendous amount to support your children's self-regulation by practicing getting a little bit less reactive yourself. And how can any of us do that? Well I focus on breathing because by slowing down our breath and focusing on the air moving in and out of our nose changes between hills and the exiles you activate your para sympathetic nervous system which calms down your stress response. If you think about it anytime you're really upset if you can get yourself to take breath you just can't be in that Stress Response Anymore. It changes your whole physiology. So how do you do that it practice? Mindfulness that's one way practicing. Mindfulness in different ways. They're wonderful APPS. There's wonderful activities that you can do and again they can watch you. You can invite them to join you but the best way to do it to model it and your child will get better at noticing. Her feelings and her thoughts are by signals. I staying in the present moment with a sense of curiosity and compassion for herself an others. That's what we do when we practice. Mindfulness or at least that's what we're hoping that we're doing and again just get COM. App head space or whatever APP you like. There's also really cool activity cards. They're called mindful games and you can just pull one out. It takes just a few minutes and it's really a practice that you can do every single day when you're not in a stress Spring and it can help you and your child model and experience coping skills a very challenging but important thing to do that's associated with resilience to reframe negative thinking and that's tricky because we spend years becoming very good at negative thinking. And what you practice grows stronger to quote Dr Schapira who Has also been on this podcast a couple of times when you practice negative thinking over and over you get really expert at it. What we WANNA do is teach our kids to practice reframing negative thinking and you can do that by helping them in real time reframe their language when they get stuck so instead of getting stuck ruminating over the negative aspects of the situation were the things that she wishes were different. You get your child to identify the specific aspects of the situation that she finds challenging so that she can see if there's something she can change then if she finds out it's out of her control entirely you can help her turn her attention away from the negatives and towards something that she might gain by pushing through them by enduring them like the opportunities she wouldn't have otherwise for the strength that she might develop by persevering despite this challenge perspective is also a way to shift negative thinking because in stressful or challenging situations. You can help her see things in perspective by placing her personal situation in a bigger context. Now is a perfect time. When if you hear your child talking about how? She's the only one experiencing this terrible situation because she's not seeing her friends in. Its messing with her. Social Life. Were missing graduation ceremony. Or I mean there's just so much going on that you could name you WanNa remind her that there's a much bigger context of her life of what she's going to be able to do which can do and that other people are right there with her. Sometimes we lose perspective and again you don't say it in a shaming way. It's really to help her develop a sense of perspective and look at things from a larger context and challenged her negative thinking patterns so that she learns to challenge them as well. So you want to get her to start thinking about where her mind goes in these times of strife to her thoughts usually exacerbate the stress. Are they actually accurate? Can she think of other ways to interpret the same situation that don't exacerbate her stress but instead reflect a more positive outlook? This is easy to do when you catch your child's giving you extreme scenarios because you can stay white you're hearing and reflected back like what a think trying to say is that you feel like you're never going to have as close of a relationship with any of your friends anymore. Because of his time apart and as she hears you reflecting back what you think. She means she'll be able to hear that. It may not be that accurate. And if she can't you could say I just want to check in. Do you think that's really accurate? Another very obvious. But sometimes forgotten aspect of building resilience. It's get moving kids. Who exercise just like adults have the opportunity to increase the neuro chemicals. That calm the brain in times of stress. It boosts the feel good hormones endorphins. And it's a great distraction from worries. So let your child know that whatever activity that gets her body. Moving and active can make her brain more resilient stress. And if she doesn't want to do it just make a family rule or house joker figure out some way to just say out. Do it with you going. We're going to talk about this as long as you want. But first we're GONNA go outside for a ten minute run or even a five minute run and use humor because being able to have a sense of humor even in the hardest and darkest of times helps you guys feel more connected helps others feel more connected to you and it just unifies everybody. Those a collective laugh going on. I mean that's why kids are passing around all these memes and tic TACs and online jokes finally you WANNA model and teach problem solving skills to teach your child various ways to manage when things go wrong or she becomes overwhelmed by emotion. So you do that with reflection you get your child to describe situations. She finds troubling stressful so that she can reflect on ways she might approach them differently. The next time baby steps are really important to make problems or stressors feel less overwhelming. You can just show how you can rake those problems up into more manageable steps and then brainstorm together lists of possible solutions for each of the baby steps instead of trying to solve the giant problem. Then you can really make it easier to brainstorm possible solutions for each one so that she could try it out and teach her how to make informed decisions that can alleviate stress by making lists of pros and cons before she makes decisions and also you WanNa make sure that she takes breaks when it comes to strengthening her brain's capacity to think logically and problem solve so when you are under stress. If you've ever found yourself being like I don't have time to for dinner. I don't have time for that. I can't take a break right now. I've got a ton of work that's rate when you need to say no. I am going to take a break because of five minute break now is actually building my resilience and I'm GonNa get better work done. And when you model a gross mindset that belief that there's potential to improve at anything with practice and effort. Can it goes back to what you practice grows stronger. That makes the likelihood of getting derails or side rail in tough times much less likely it puts you in a position of instead of throwing in the towel when things get hard into saying. Forget it I give up. This is to heart. It just makes you realize like I've done hard things before I can get through this see really want to encourage your child to take on challenges like I talked about in the beginning that make her out of her comfort zone regardless of the outcome. Just do not talk about the successful outcome whether you're talking about a toddler finishing a puzzle or a kid getting an A. In a class that she thought she was gonNA fail. You don't want to talk about the outcome. What you WanNa talk about is that process that she went through so re frame mistakes and reframe failures and reframe challenges as opportunities to learn and be sure that you reflect these claims in what you do as a parent in what you say apparent so you notice and acknowledge when she shows courage to try something new when you show courage to try something new and the Times that she puts efforts into things. She wants to improve in. It's so awesome and nine encourages optimism and unlike pessimism. Optimus are among the most resilient people we know because being able to see the positive in a situation and by positive. I mean seeing situation as an opportunity to enact positive. Change that supports adaptive coping. I'm not talking about like oh. Yay Glass half full. Everything is wonderful. It's not about that it's about. I know that this is an opportunity for me to strengthen my Coping SKILLS SO each time. You gently introduced your child to a more optimistic explanation. Not just is so much easier to do if you do it yourself. You're creating a connection with her brain and make it more likely that her brain might go to that positive space on its own the next time similarly when you see that she's stuck or she's about to give up help pride densify one thing she can control and to act on it. Doing so strengthens the tendency of Optimus to see setbacks as temporary and a challenge to be overcome and remember. You're not doing all this for her. Your guide but you want to allow for her autonomy so you give her chances to do things on her own even if they're a little bit challenging or out of her comfort zone and then you praise her for showing initiative offer her choices and decision making opportunities so that she can begin to see how the things that she's done and the choices that she's making can influence how things turn out because anybody who has a sense of control over things fills more resilient making you more likely to be able to bounce back from challenges the next time and always focused when you're bogged down by stressed or overwhelmed by obstacles. This particular time is a great time to remind kids to do something to help others. Who are not as fortunate as they are which it takes the focus off of the problem. It takes the focus off of the trauma of Events. In this case we have a huge global events going on of a pandemic but if you can remind kids to think about ways they can help other people who are not in as good of a situation as they are that will help them build empathy which is another crucial component of Australian resilience. Not only the empathy that I spoke of from you to your child's but also helping them think about being empathetic towards others and then very obviously alongside exercise. Good Sleep and eating nutritious food promotes resilience so that you can have energy to cope with stress because you are not running yourself down and the having unhealthy habits that can tend to just get you into a cycle of just feeling terrible and then you can't function and it's like you you get less likely to eat healthy because just like ask for it and you don't want to exercise all of those things that are just part of self care that can get thrown out the window during something like a pandemic you. WanNa try to help your kids get back to it because we know that someone who's got sleep and who gets nutritious food and exercise has got a much better shot at responding well to stress. Thank you for listening and I hope you enjoy this episode next week. I'm back with Dr Sania Luther and if you are enjoying this please don't hesitate to subscribe rate and review and please send in any questions that you have on my instagram at raising that humans. Podcast and I will answer them on next week's episode or on the PODCAST Igt.

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Xenia Muntean, Founder & CEO of Planable

Marketing Upheaval

30:06 min | 1 year ago

Xenia Muntean, Founder & CEO of Planable

"Hey everyone this is Rudy Fernandez some creative outhouse. What a pleasure it was to speak with Zanny Moon on the CEO of plannable? It's a content review and marketing collaboration. Platform form. She had some sharp insights into how companies need to rethink how they get their social media content done. Let's face it. Social media can't continue to be handled in a loose way. Hi It's officially reached the grownup stage and requires the same type of processes in review is more established media and had some smart thoughts and solutions to that enjoyed her thinking and the conversation. You will to check it out. Welcome to marketing up evil. You're listening to marketing. People broken the marketing people. My guess is semi semion Montagne. Co-founder plannable a social media collaboration and approval platform for agencies in large France Hughes named in Forbes thirty under under thirty list for two thousand nineteen She frequently speaks about social media. Content trends including at cans. Sania is an expert on creating social W. programs and has a lot of insights into content distribution and collaboration. And how it could be better. So this is GonNa be a great conversation. Thanks for joining me. Well thank you so much inviting me. Ask while I'm excited to do this. Well I before we talk about plannable and socio content you had just I think an extraordinary the meteoric career. I think you started your first social media company when you're still university. I believe yeah that it wasn't agency so we're doing a lot of socially get content production for Branson. I started at during my second year in university. So you started in Moldova. Where you're from? Yes and then went to Romania and now it's just it's just taken off. Research is very much important. Yeah congratulations so do you find that your age is A benefit when you approach the new business. That's a good question. I think you know in the beginning has thinking that people are GonNa oppose more to talk with me because I'm very a young. I don't think it hurts anything because I'm building a software company social media marketers. They are young young as well so I think he's been better. I think it helps. Because we're on the same page. We drive to work in Microsoft. Alcohol aalto Canyon Micro says you know we can resonate with me at. That's right. I think the younger Generations have a much better handle on it. Yeah I agree. Yeah so tell listeners. Well plannable just so they know little bit more about the company with us. I started it. S You mentioned. After I had my own Social Media Marketing Agency and I started the company together. You get there with Michael Saunders. Because all of us work in the industry were frankly a bit frustrated with how everyone was working in in the industry for the people that are not very familiar with how social media content lanny happens. Usually you plan your content calendar contents editorial calendar other in spreadsheets spreadsheets. Woke sarongs in the entire team. And if you're an agency and you've got lands you're sending that spreadsheet to clients CI- on a distant back-and-forth happens on email. That is big a waste of time. It's not streamlined. At all it's very fragmented your keeping the assets for the content itself like the videos the GPS the the images itself keeping somewhere else. It can a Google drive folder. The jury broken. And it's not seamless. Work and a lot of timing is being wasted just by doing goal does tedious tasks like having to formats. That's spreadsheet having to call everything from that stretch it to like a scheduling tool. You know just trying to centralize all the baggage receiving receiving from everyone from your internal team but also from clients stakeholders and so it was not a pretty process and having grown up with Lake APPS MOBILE APPS it has beautiful design. Three good wine. You actually expecting something else. Your professional workspace. So I was trying trying to find something that was laboratories designed for teams. When I didn't find that then spoke with microphone while they were working in different against at the time and they have the same challenges we decided to plannable to? Joe Stats you. Empower marketers to be accepted and their day to day. WHOA so people design the content for various social media platforms for example and then Nat live somewhere on a cloud so that everyone has has access to it and see okay? This is the right message. That's wrong message. There's not a lot of back and forth to Holloway. Yeah Yeah Donegal is. The Iran is literally early on the same page in real time. It's just helps. Content creators in brand marketing team. Create everything quick older their content Visualize how those posts phase the fit. INSTAGRAM ARE GONNA look like in which is tasked that you know. This is like an internal joke. I I tell to every social media manager there I need everyone of us have a fake page where we go in there. We like mall Cobb. The social media posted planning to publish. Just make sure that it's GonNa look good dragged so I had this taste but baked back in my agency days. It was like could chance on published page of going in there. I was creating the post just to see how it's GonNa look like sometimes been taking shots sending it's my clients because they were asking the same stage sending ten in photoshop to mock it up. I was just going down the page so they danced. Hannibal at that Visual separation everyone can exactly the competition look like in the end. It can experience though. It's already lie so I think that's this. This type of accuracy and disability is crucial for efficient collaboration and then publish it in the ends to those social media channels. I imagine you Seeing your message spread across the different channels also helps you understand how it all fits together as a campaign helps a client as well. Well that's actually one of the other bands that's right because you can just see how everything ties together can make sure that it's cohesive at all make sense you know message message in it also helps you understand if you if you're not sending confusing messages across different channels else. It just helps you have more united brand. I take What are some common mistakes you think brands are making in terms of their content? In terms of consistency the head compost social media manages. The company has grown a lot in the past years it has become very very or attend function of the entire marketing mix. Yeah due to the fact that you have social media managers in different departments in different business units in different regions. They are all working across the world role. And you're not giving them a platform to work together on this invasion. You think that's one of the biggest mistakes because your morning. Some use socially. Yeah intern in there. They might not know the brand values tone of voice that you wish said thank thank being more secure with a distribution of content having some mechanism in place to ensure that your brand is safe dead. You're not Ghana boasts an empty black Friday weep Donald's dude a few years ago it banks insurance. Those kinds of safety safety mechanisms in place is extremely important and those that just mechanisms are in place for traditional media like TV commercials. Commercials are reviewed used so many times over and over again. There's no mechanism bag that for social because in the beginning it was is just a toy for marketers. It was nothing serious. You are getting to your ancient. There was no dedicated team so there was no workflow system no reviewing doing approval system over everything else there is for additional marketing there is platforms like plannable arena starting to cure because because now social media marketing has become so so so important for organizations that they need to improve the way their capricious. Yeah I hadn't thought of that but you're right a TV commercial for example is reviewed quite a bit and it's almost like social. The media has is growing up this natural process of of being a grownup medium and with social media. It's instant once you post something like the Internet. Never forgets get off. Yeah it's going to be there forever. Someone is we're GONNA take a shot than it's faster than so named maybe with your phone A TV commercial Second for spread across across social media. And you're never gonNA be able to take it back to you. Need to be been working on for within your TV commercials. Also the budgets. Just our big day so there's a lot of money in both in. This sunrise nursed anymore and bad and on traditional marketing. So it has has become extremely extremely important for brands. They need tweeted with your gear. I think oh absolutely. We've talked to on the PODCASTS. A crisis manager. Who says problems often come from the bottom up you know so any employees who pose something representing your company that is career pickering appropriate? Suddenly that that becomes a forever thing that you now have to make your issue as a company so that I could see with something like this as part of governance and a company to say we have to go through this platform and these people have to prove it in this is our system is a lot better than an email back and forth and then there's the other side of said like the browns did you don't just social media at all just because they're afraid great mistakes are going to happen. I see that in Pharma Brands. Because he's such a regulated industry. There is a workflow empty race to get approvals from legal for stuff like the commercials and print and so on is workload to get in a pro bowl for this amount of content that you can social rights. It's not one post a month like you have what's TV commercials or even a longer period of time today. There's no workload entirely avoiding it because damage and could be quite a big A big one. It can't just run away from because there's no processes in place for that yet. You need to build those processes because the more the harder in a d to integrate yourself into the current tax assistant. Yeah it's a reality if you're going to market anything. Yeah so you wrote an e book and in it the couple of things I want to ask you about that. You had talked about A concept that you called content paralysis. Yeah I think you talked about that a little bit already but Tell what that is. Yeah so in this new world of of marketing that we are today. The insane demand contents from Schumer's US US Lebron's has become a bit like Publishers Days Ryan to producing associate lot of contents of their content hubs logs and restores. I hope that they have any advertising law media publishers and so on so there's dozens of Content the grants are working with and and every form of content. There's so many pieces of content that they could use. MVP Day we made. We actually did the report a few months ago. Oh an industry worth of marketers. How many of conserve their publishing every week? The number was something like she seen pieces of content every week. That's quite a plot to this. Demand is not scalable. At the moment. You can't cover it all because from what we're staying in the industry there is no property actor inside of marketing teams nowadays. So that means that they can't build old unskilled their content production because their teen is not the line because they don't have systems in place communicate well between each other because different teams are isolated and because their entire workflow operations as the content team is a broken. So they're going to reach torrent of what we call conduct bras as they're not going to be able to skill and produce more content than than they're doing at that moment we're seeing that more and more industry and I think marketers needs to be very aware all not just why content content they produce the strategies tactics but also how wolves that happened are unique degree is what is the unsexy sixty saying behind actually producing the content beaupre shaw side that not enough people are More why people need to raise their hands to improve standards. Were absolutely that stuff going out your doors as you better make sure it's all correct and Within your company purpose and values I understand the need to have to constantly produce content because audience audience so splintered and you don't know who's going to see what etc I'm just overwhelmed by the amount of content that we have in the world that I can keep up with a small fraction of it. When do you think that will just keep going? That will just keep having all this content and it'll be more and more and more or is it will there be some I'm sort of Plateau at some point. I think humans in browns are going to produce content and they have been producing On ten forever we are creators at the or so. I don't think that's ever going to stop but I do agree with you. That there's an issue. She also quantity over widely and the moment a and I would go for hunting the quality I rather than quantity and two. It doesn't matter to producing less content but it's beginnings a huge effort for your team in both situations. You need to think about operation questions you need to think about. Structure Your team. How could you robbery? What should teamwork look like For Your own organization so the problem is still there with Quality over quantity. Thank you for saying that by the way as someone who owns a creative shop. I've seen that it's just so much. Content is not as just here. Let's put some bullet points in this. There's a really old saying old ad guy though Burbach. He is my favorite quote about advertising in. It was this when a person talks to himself. We call him crazy. When a company talks to itself we call it advertising and I think a lot of content is that let me tell you how great we are? I think good content takes longer to develop than sometimes people are just in a hurry to get something anything out. Yeah I totally agree there. There's an old by at think. Mark Lean something related to the fact that he broke the law because he didn't have time to write off in mass. The that's right. I think it was in a letter hero. They said Apologize to the link this letter. I didn't have time to to make shorter. Obviously this platform form that were multiple can look at it and evaluated may commented streamlines that process. Do you ever run into the flip side of that where you'll have the client saying move this make this bigger and and making design decisions when in fact they don't know about design and what I'm getting to his. I've found often when creative is presented. People understand the thinking and why things are the way they are but we moved so quickly. You can't do that. They just it just gets sent back and forth and then people make it comments. So how do you think that sort of back and forth affects the the actual creative content. I think the way we it incredible is that it's so flexible. They can build whatever way of working again he need whatever way of working comfortable to Kim. you move. E Year type of funeral teeing dead justice extremely nimble annual fee ship context ass and you can make that for yourself so it feeds very well into the type of work so marketers have in different in different companies. I fear the type of Human wants to take time and explain that to the client. You can do that as well. You can eat showcase the work the client when you're ready going back to your e book for each team member. You include the primary responsibilities in review them daily weekly and monthly which seems like a lot but now that you've mentioned it you do need some sort of governance. DD recommend that people create some sort of governance in review it that frequently in terms of what should and shouldn't go out content wise. I think it really depends on your so So you know there's brands that Atlantic Grand Plan Mafia recommend planning more than a month ahead. Dennis streaky not real time at all. But I think he's really depends to your specific low on the way you build content but it's it's extremely important to do this. Type of analysis says like to look into Hoggart gains working and to audit everyone's responsibilities. What everyone is doing day today because that's GonNa give in strengthening people you have to have a clear understanding of what everyone is doing? This part of your entire arche effort. WHO's in charge of publishing? WHO's in in Georgia? The creative science charges strategy. And so on those committees have to be very well-defined because otherwise it was time you have a new person in we have some more than Li very cards. Just entire system. Auditing the way your team works and hopefully looking into your team works takes a lot of time you know. It's a big deep dives and time. Consuming disciples initiatives. If you don't do it you're not gonNA find bottlenecks. LX You're not gonNA understand. What are the issues that you have in your e able to truly seeks to improve your process tend to send was working and the more the more you accumulate what I call this operational debt? That means that it's GonNa be harder and harder for you to work together because because those issues are humiliating and this debt is increasing. Get to you need to do as early as you. The Angel how have you seen the plannable and its technology transformed. What's it before and after look Mike is brought into an organization? I love that question so I think before plannable a lot of the teams were using includes like a spreadsheet and emails and they had a lot of Mesh national tools of phone calls texts emails else. Bedsheets somewhere using trello somewhere using slacks more using Google Docs or Microsoft office tower using neutrally Whiteboards stickies on on a wall. You know a lot of meetings two meetings. I think those tools. It didn't work for them. That's they switched flammable and and made them more productive a lot of our clients answer stating that. They're saving percent of their time on those tasks that they are using and they're not stressed and overwhelmed as they were before her her. Everything is really really organized that radically year and they have more visibility on what's happening and communication has improved can occasion between themselves internally but also communication with their clients. They don't know inundated with emails. Taymor so I think things have changed a lot for some of the people that switched for Animal so what do you think think is next in the evolution of plannable in terms of technology. Because obviously any technology you have to keep or what are the next Maybe goals or things that you see maybe incorporating into the platform big all this just raise the productivity of marketers everywhere doing for social media content already but we want to move into law formats contents. I think that's the next step for US edition. Taking collaboration to the next level Dhingra during the FERRUGIA job with improving the way teams King members collaborate. You want to do that as a lightning speed. This is collaboration and content formats. Our two biggest goals were some of the big barriers that you hit when you go and try to pitch to people. Teaching is is hard but he has to do it allowed. This is a founder Yokich Pitching to to customers as well so he change change itself is hard people are used with the way they're working anything that's the biggest barrier to just make them understand that it's a problem and that we can really sold that problem that they might have not thought about this. He convincing people that have already identified. That problem in the works. Always stays consented. Solution is simple rights. Bring everyone on the same page. Engineers wants to go to those other chosen. You've been abusing but for those people that are you happy with their current workflow even if they we haven't identified that it's actually not their productive and think just shining some light dot. Problem is the biggest barrier here. Okay that makes sense. A lot of it is automated. Correct a lot of plans on made your technology. What aspects of content d think are are things that ought not be automated or automated? Think all the tedious mechanical tasks should definitely be automated identity. Creativity aspect of concert. Production can't be automated and at the moment and my personal personal opinion is that it. It shouldn't either. I think it's such a human base and amend based function the amputee the OC communication skills psychological aspect Or buildings like the cultural aspect of building content dined. I find it hard to be one day is going to be able to automate and that I can't imagine that in the next few decades AIDS and I don't even know if I wanted that research that was honestly a loaded question because that's what I wanna do to say there. You go these seeing some trends and content at UC happening better bitter exciting. Yeah I think He turned in on in in in our future Knowing it's probably nothing new for people during following chance but storytelling VR AR is probably you know one of the big transparent can happen in the future because it's just again creek very nurses its contents experiences. It really takes a lot of time to think about them. Invest Energy resources in producing experiences like that. We're probably not going to st those types of storytelling in yard stories. 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Ep. 277 - Pitcher Plant Symbioses

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Ep. 277 - Pitcher Plant Symbioses

"Would you like more infants of plants each month? Well, you're in luck in defense plants is now offering bonus mini episodes over at our Patriot page, find out how you can gain access to this bonus. Botanical content had on over Patriot dot com slash in defense plants, and consider becoming a patron and as always thank you for your continued support of independent plants. Together, we are helping cure plant blinds around the world one episode at a time. Hello everyone and welcome to the indefensible plants podcast official podcast of indefensible plants. Dot Com what's up? This is your host met welcome to the show. How's everyone doing this week? Today we're talking about pitcher plants specifically, the tropical pitcher plants in the genus nepenthes these. These are some of my favorite plants on earthier incredibly interesting. Their evolutionary history is fascinating and the adaptations they have to deal with nutrient poor environments in which grow have delighted scientists, horticulturist and plant enthusiasts ever since they were first described. But my guest today's studies something very specific about the pitcher environment itself when you think of a pitcher plant and their pitchers easy to just think they're all deathtraps anything that falls in there is going to be destroyed. That's not the case as you're going to hear today the pitchers of nepenthes. Systems in and of themselves, joining us to talk about this is Dr Kadima. Gilbert. He's opposed doc at Penn State and he studies among other things the microbiomes living within pitcher plant fluids of a handful of nepenthes species. This is incredible work because his work just goes to show you that nothing is as simple as it seems in nature and that is so fascinating. The other exciting thing is just when it comes to biodiversity. Scales to this, it's not just the plants and the larger animals if you don't the plants themselves or housing all of these different organisms and there's just it's like the facto universes woo is that sounds his work is just proof of how complex nature can be absolutely fascinating stuff and you know what I don't WanNa keep you from any longer. So let's just jump right into it without further ado. Here's my conversation with Dr Codeine Gilbert I. Hope You enjoy. All right Dr Codeine Gilbert. Thank you so much for coming on the PODCAST. How about we start off by telling everyone a little bit about who you are in what it is you do. Sure. So currently I'm a post doc at Penn state I just started this. Asfaw. Basically I'm interested in symbiosis with plants especially i. just finished my a thesis last year. So I did knife graduate thesis on Sylviane, B.'s N-, also other interactions between. NEPENTHES. Pitcher plants and insects in. Yes Where where did this all begin with you? What got you into carnivorous plants for you? Always a plant person was it just nature and then kind of plants came secondary. Yeah. Okay. So I have been fascinated by the natural world since of very small. Same as actually science I. But I decided I I came to the decision of biology in in fifth grade? But it wasn't actually until Undergrad that I really be image to Lance. Yeah. Girl growing up. I actually wasn't around what I would consider to be nature all that much as as a child though my family is from Dominico which is really wash island in the Caribbean spent most of my life in new. Jersey in kind of more urban setting but Zaza mentioned I was always into science does navid reader I I love reading all kinds of books about science but National Geographic really caught my interest So that's what led me to eventually a playing to Cornell for Undergrad on. INARA. Natural. Resources Rams does essentially conservation biology major because I decided that you know I, I was interested in. Understanding how the world works there is there's something about understanding other organisms living with us the that really me. And eventually, I wasn't plants necessarily a forefront of Mon Mike Minded I but I did have this interest in ecology going in Undergrad and decided to take courses on as many organisms as I could and I my freshman year I took an intro botany chorus and I was. I was pretty soul or I seem naive yet my range of interest actually expanded. Courses I took. So it actually gets to a a a longer some a meandering path to to the carnivorous plants the in school. But the more that I learned about different organisms in Undergrad us I plans then fungi you reptiles and I did very very unrelated some research objects to on under variety different top expanding from soil Arthur odds to starfish. Graffiti and surveys. saw. The actually the the more I wanted to undergraduate was less certain I would be up. On radical but. I knew that I was our going to Grad school next I news next stop science has been you know the that that's been my goal. This is. but. It took it took wool surgery to realize that what's really drawing these these actions between organisms. So. I kind of rotated. Among different labs in the first year of Grad School, and the OB Department at Harvard. And settled into the symbiosis lab nonni Pierce where my lab mates for working on all very different things with a common thread was the interactions. And the pitcher plants came so I was inspired by a fellow Grad. Soon, the time who were senior Grad student was working on nepenthes as well. But this is the made a lot sense for me is also of interest in Southeast Asian Flora and fauna in particular. But when I help is other Grad students with her research project in in my first year while I was still trying to figure out ospel. Picks, the more I learned about the these I've I've quickly find out the interact with pretty much everything. So the conflict in my mind that existed before about do I want to commit to plaid's or do I want to do insects or herbs? I, didn't have to pick one they all interact with. These this fast community of insects, microbes and even frogs that live inside of them. So I saw I just all on potential that group. That is fantastic yet and I think you and I probably went through a similar trajectory in that sense is just kind of really liking the natural world as a whole and not really finding anything in particular. That was like, Oh, I, want to devote the rest of my life to that. But if you like interactions which really that's what the study of Ecology is interaction the inevitably all come to plants, and then when you find something like nepenthes, which is doing some pretty wild stuff. which will get into I mean that to me just screams the perfect thing for someone like yourself. That's curious. Love Science loves interactions and like you said, doesn't necessarily want to specialize in the classic sense not to say Nepenthes as a nice specialist system. But understanding that they are interacting with a vast amount of organisms and what cooler way to kind of express your Love Free College than to study symbiosis I mean that's like some of the cool stuff our planet has to offer right? It's amazing and so what is it like to take that leap into the world of actually studying carnivorous plants? I mean it's an easy sell for a lot of people pitcher plants. Really Cool. But you know taking that from a scientific perspective especially in the context of somewhere you to see the stuff happened in the wild you have to travel right to get out there. So what was that like leap into you know Oh my God I'm actually GonNa do this. Yeah well, the the mentioned I developed interest in. Southeast Asian J. By diversity in general, southeast, Asian by diversity in Undergrad. So I had one research experience in Southeast Asia fire to Grad school already anish should I guess not that I was necessarily as a season tropical biologists yet but I I have. I have a couple of different experiences in rural. deal, biology, in. So Yeah the. L. Prepared for the fieldwork I fell in love with Thi-. Indonesia and. Sophomore year or South summer following my sophomore year. You bring up a key point though that there's a difference between signing on for our you programs undergrad where things are are set up for you and. Being. A Grad student that has the taking charge in. Plan out the all the field season for yourself. So yeah. So that, that was that was an experience I think there's really no way into it but jumping in I have been fortunate to have connections with other researchers in the area through my lab. Are you know people that know my adviser? But there's so many things that you you can't plan for in the. One thing that immediately comes to mind is a fairly a- unfortunate field season where I was viciously attacked by a swarm. Early data. Yeah. But at least you come away with some really wicked stories to tell you know around the campfire so to speak. But yeah, you know thinking about having to do fieldwork domestically. Is a challenge but then you have crossing borders, you have language barriers you have permitting you have a lot of things to consider. That's been the biggest who I can only imagine. But you also have this thing where you know I can imagine you're excited. It's really awesome to be in a lab that studying biopsies. You've got this background in already loving it in having experienced it a little bit but you know is a big group, florist speaking Southeast Asia is insanely diverse, but then just even think about it from symbiosis specifically like there's already a laundry list of possibilities in there. So how do you even begin to start to sort through where you can make your mark on the science because as part of it as as like a young eager scientists in trainings to be like, okay. Where do I fit in here? Very. True. Yeah. That that was that was quite a process. The first two possibly even three yet mostly the first two years but Essentially what I did is I took a strategy to to find that niche I, kind of just tried everything. Works but. I will say. I did start wanting to focus on the symbiosis between the plants and the the frogs which marina them. That such, a an unusual niche interaction with barely little known about it. So I I thought of that is oh, that would be a nice place to. State my claim but. There there's a reason why some things are not so while studied. In this case, the interaction is not so common as her interactions with insects. Amazon permits again is is is a key thing. So apparently, there's at least one region insider walk in Malaysia which it's not so uncommon to find it but then getting the permits and work, there is another hassle but. As I mentioned like the the more I read about the group and just seeing I just had so many questions and still. Have so many. Questions A on. The first chapter is not one that I anticipated really. So while I was working on trying to. See if I can find breeding frogs in in Singapore I. Wasn't really getting data on that and but I noticed this color polymorphism of the the the common species there nepenthes. Priscilla's. Added on that. But by first chapter ended up looking into coloration. Fees and. Studying that from evolutionary perspective and then also teasing apart what are the possible adaptive benefits of the differences in Ignatius that you see. So even within a species, there's variation between red and green editors and you could see within any individuals species but that was not a question that I went in with right and that's important to realize is how much of this is informed budgets being out there walking around being curious you know that's part of it to kind of have to enjoy what you're doing and and enough to kind of have that relaxed state of mind as they like. My notice that there but not there that's this color not over here and even on the same individual and it's cool that those can then just creep up into your work and become a big part of it without ever really realizing it. But that's where you know having the passion for the system kind of comes into play because God forbid you sent her on something I didn't want to do that and I should have said that in the meeting kind of thing. But Again. You're in the super bio diverse area. You're studying a group of plants that are super charismatic in also diverse themselves and you mentioned you know these Priscilla's a common species in that area and and as that another limitation to the work to as you mentioned, just finding frogs breeding in pitchers alone is difficult but you don't want to stay your entire PG or really. Any research on an organism, you might find maybe two of in your entire time surging or have to climb repel into all this crazy stuff just get to it So is that a big motivating factor to is just being able to work with species where you can get enough data and ask the kinds of questions to to even start investing the sorts of stuff Yes definitely. and. That's A. That's a nice thing about nepenthes actually. So all although. It's this some exotic species from. Our perspective from coming coming from the West sides difficult. Get there bought once you're there once you're in those places, they're usually locally pretty abundant. You can usually get a lot of plans when when you're in that site. Let's really encouraging in also again, if you're like us, living in the Americas, no experience with any of the tropical pitcher plants outside of maybe botanical garden or a nursery like Oh that must've been a sight for sore eyes just walking into an area that is dominated by these things just growing in the wild like what? And I love I love the the coolest thing about having a blog in interacting with people from around the world is. So they're exotic to me but you know I post a picture like Oh yeah. We used to make sticky rice in these pictures. Are we collect from the? It's just like, of course this is this is your dandy. Lion. This is your you know and Cert- common thing I see in my yard all the time there. So, for people that don't really know what's going on. I, mean it is already obvious. We're talking about a carnivorous plant here, but you've already mentioned a few things living in the pitchers themselves which seems like suicidal I mean what? These things are known for eating organisms animals especially, which is mind blowing to think of a plant turning the tide like that but. It's way more complex than that. Right there's so much going on within these pictures that were still obviously still trying to understand. So talk through that a little bit like what's why isn't everything that falls in their dying? Yes yeah that that is definitely I think be the most surprising fact about these plans. That they have these entire communities living within them. So I should say it looks like a very harsh environment. It's definitely very extreme. One of the plant is of secreting digestive fluid. So this one thing people might ask so part part of it may be rainwater, but with the pen, a lot of that fluid is endogenous produced item planned, and then it's it's of these heighten NASA's breakdown, insect shells and. All of these other enzymes to break down their prey it's really acidic at so it you're you're I. It's it's so shocking to see things living in there but yet there they are brighty of microbes of course, are colonizing them as we're finding microbes or an important part of any ecological community wants you look and the the insects of so there is a lot of dipped in larvae of live plants. So these are mosquitos and. Strategy begun images other off families that you might find commonly living with intrigue holes. Cosby am known as a fighter town in general. So at your plant is just another kind of fighter to them, but as far as how they can survive that is still fairly open ended from as much as a book of really haven't found anything on the the physiology of the insects for. On their side for adaptation, the allow them to live in their. Closest thing I could find to an investigation of that is from like nineteen twenty, eight years something like. This paper by Dover in the something liken the the Singapore Nature Journal something like that. But he did some experiments to see if there are anti trips in compound. So something that would counteract the trips in enzymes in the pitcher fluid but thou inconclusive in the author himself said that can't. Really. Say That I found what makes these exoskeleton so resistant however, he did find though that you take a a basic trio mosquito and you put it in an appendix. It's not necessarily going to survive the reason the one that didn't. End Refining that there. There are species that have been described that bear the epithet like Nepenthes Cola or Philo. So there are species of insect that were just that have only been found living in pitcher plants, and from what we see there, there is a community that specialize to Ta- living in the pitchers. So, there's probably some adaptation happening on on their half, but it's it's all just open to figure out exactly why. But before I should say though that on the the Platte side, there are species differences in the acidity of fluid of any. So nepenthes ampule area, which is another one you could find in Singapore where I've done most of my work, but it's this highly modified species. Their pitchers like little earns and The fluid is not as acidic as as other species because they lack a wicked covering the pitchers is most intervene. Stu. And there's evidence suggesting that there are also excreting less suggestive enzymes and blind moron microbes for breaking down prey and the reason they looked so weird without the latest actually collect leaf later in addition to insect break. So this is a least one never. And other researchers have shown that they do get nitrogen from the leaf litter immoral but I. Yeah. So we because they're modified in this way that the fluid is dilute the communities of insects is larger than other species on other neighboring species because it's relatively kind of mild than in that species, you can find more loose associates. So species that are normally found in entry holes in show up, you get a larger pool in that community and other species. So if different species seem to vary in the environment that they produce that causes differences in the community. while. Yeah. This is an amazing system and I could see why like as a ecologically minded person would just be all over this because. It seems like from what you just described every plan, every species potentially as its own Mizuho Qasem, its own environment, and there's obviously going to be different specialization. But then you know just as you outlined it, there's so many unknowns here and like you're doing a very specific part of this sort of work but there's so many questions that can be asked like he's at about the insects themselves. They're adaptations what you know how and why they're getting in there. What kind of gradations do you have in sort of this digestive enzyme soup that's going on? Who I mean there's so much impact. But again, this is for a lifetime of science. This is ripe for the picking and a lot of ways, and I could see so many different avenues you know you could go with this. So does that excite you I mean looking forward is this something you're probably going to stick with nepenthes for a little bit? Yeah. Definitely. In fact, what just mentioned with the Ph of this? This is. My current focus or before to the I should say that I I did investigate ph in different species in a greenhouse study using Meta bar-coding to look at the microbes in these plans that are all around the same age they're growing in the speed house in Singapore trip's actually for cultural purposes but. I made the connection with these growers. Were able to is pretty cool signs with that it's. Just got publish this year. But in this kind of common garden situation within this really nice they well-controlled. Greenhouse. I talked about hypothet- hypothetically before. But in this case, the species do differentially regulate that fluid environment and the biggest thing is. While and even though we added water of six into them within two weeks of. To us, you are a large difference in resolve levels and actually and from a six in the most a neutral species down to somewhere around one what the most vicious. Yeah while so. There's there's a lot of variation each doubles the uses, and as we know from a lot of other ecosystems, peaches, a really important role for microbial communities. So the shows at in nature, you can have this kind of ecological filtering perhaps see with with some patrick species. This is why you might get a different community and ambulatory area versus Priscilla's of when they're run right next to each other so that that is my general interest that I think is going to define my career as trying to shape it. The question of how to modify the environment in their leaf tissues or surrounding their leaf tissues. In. In such a way to regularly. Biotic. So speech finding it turns out that it might not be just these oddball carnivorous plants that are able to change on under resurfaces. And I won't get too much into that now. But in my post doc on both continuing in the pepys as well as looking at some props of agricultural significance. Looking at the role of Ph in leaf microbiome establishment. Wow Yeah and I never even thought about the extension beyond just thinking about what's going on inside of a pitcher but thinking it from like evolutionary standpoint I mean here is a very diverse region with a very diverse genesis of plants and a lot of like you said, it's Patrick a lot of them are growing near each other but then you think back to like those early ecology classes in the warblers segregating out onto a tree based on how they feed here is the feeding mechanism of our carnivorous plant in it sounds like by modulating that environment, they're probably able to take advantage of different resources have different communities. Which I'm sure you know thinking this a symbiosis, there's probably to St to some level but then also sort of the coloration on top of that going back to what you had mentioned in your first chapter is just how different the pitcher look and how that might cause different things to capture in in. So do you think a lot of the feeding habits that filtering as you mentioned, the communities kind of are not necessarily the reason but a big part of the diversity, the diversification of panties in them being able to grow and be distinct but grow so close to one another and still maintain these different niches. Yeah I'd I'd I. Definitely think of the the pitcher like the the beak of Darwin's finches. So the way that by modifying this Oregon, you can have an never as. Like ampule area and there are three or four species that use mammal scat actually mutual is. The treasures are bats. poop in the. minister. Back. After page eaters on a, but it definitely does seem to play a large role and there's so many different species over one hundred, sixty described to date and has been a lot found just in the past ten fifteen years. While I was a Grad student continues now is To go into more remote mountains in southeast, Asia and document them. But even of the majority of the has been described already a very small fraction of those have been studying in the field. So we see all this morphological diversity in. Pitcher sheeps. And also in in some cases, we can definitively blanket to some aspects of their ecology like the group that studies the tree shrew edger in MD's I is. Nicely show that the dimensions of the orifice really are matched to the hindquarters betrayer. o'clock. So know in those extreme cases morphology. Make big difference for the Auto Association. So it it stands to reason that you're of those one hundred sixty that are out there in this what appears being after radiation that there must be something driving the evolution of those pitcher dimensions on the other hand though of with what I found from coloration still looking at that same feature, the Pitcher I was surprised to find that at least for. Grew Sylla's in in Singapore that bread pitchers weren't necessarily catching different things or catching more things. Than the Green. Editors. And what are surprised to find is that there was a more of a an association between Patrick. Color and the risk of herbivore which was. Not, something that I thought a look at adverse but imagine, I, had this strategy of throwing. Everything out of problem. Why? Why tope wise this Allen polymorphism maintained Pratap seems obvious right but I decided to also look. So we know that these pigments anthocyanins in other minds they Actors a Sun Screen essentially shielding him from harsh UV. Light soil also looked at how the percent of red pitchers within a site correlates to the canopy coverage as a proxy for. The light environment and there was also is that the red pitchers were actually disproportionately more abundant in darker areas. which is your canopy coverage which. Completely contradicts what you expect active they were using at the signs sunshield. But Were reading in them. Though. But yeah, Maureen and I find. that. There may be an anti urban core function about the sign in some cases as well. Doesn't seem to be as popular as the hypothesis is I always on coloration, there's kind of a big. Fight going on with that. But I know there's some there's some chance that. It could be involved with anti reward defense. So I did notice in the field it's not be thinking about this is a carnivorous author eating insects, but I did notice these marks of some kind of sucking piercing before on on interest in one season decided to quantify that and compare that to the colored by morphism. I find Oh. Yeah. This is significant. The red ones are attacked less own sites so. So. Yeah there the point is even even though the the the pitcher might be like Darwin's beak for for this radiation selection is not limited to one set of interactions, right? So so I- i- rolls it yet the symbiosis is, is the one that I'm most interested in as another set of interactions with the same Kim's likely in important for the dietary component but it still belief, it still has physiological challenges. It's still palatable to we. Summons Exits really not as much compared to non non carnivorous plants growing the same area, but they still do have their enemies so. That may seem like lessons like selection doesn't only act on the obvious elements of Oregon Right? Look at everything. Yes. Be opened that while incredible detective work first and foremost, I mean that is again hours in the field being curious and just thinking like where else could I go with this but you know not being daunted either by. Opposite results to whatever hypothesis you WANNA like don't get too attached and or at least your expectations but. Wow, that is awesome end. Yeah. It's cool to think about that because again, we tried to teach evolution and we try to make it as simple as possible but anyone that's in the thick of it knows that it is never the case in it really is like you said, kind of all these different things polling on a genome all at once all these different pressures and yet not wanting to be eaten but also being able to obtain nutrients are so many different ways that that can go on and that is fascinating in such a cool little excited sidebar. So glad you decided to kind of quantify that You know it's a whole new layer added to the nepenthes story now. while. Done. But thinking about it from the symbiosis me not to take away from the entire bivary stuff at all but you know you're gonNA some somebody's lab and we again we think of this two way street and what would be the benefit then of having sort of even just microbial life living within the pitchers. But also you know scaling up to eukaryotic invertebrates that sort of thing like what is it for the pitcher that it's not digesting these things? But also, they're living in there. What is it getting back in return? So? I'd say, the most of the evidence on this comes from Sarah Sania the North American, defiant file, genetically unrelated but very similar kind of system. They both have a lot of SIM beyond. But there is good evidence in the case of Sania the Beeson Detroit Larvae helped the onset, chew their food essentially. So even though they're in a way kind of stealing food that comes into the plant, their their entire larval lives in their, they're eating et excreting it out into a form that's readily available at a similar level of. Word I, I'm not sure if that's though we know what you're talking to you about. Bright. So they are converting food into a form it's easier to. Absorb on the other hand though, and this is the case with all. Mitchum. So on the one handed, it's each realistic as larvae breaking down food, but they will eventually close is as adults and that this actually is a study from another group in new empties. That insect will leave as an adult with some that nitrogen locked into their bodies. So from that perspective, they could be parasitic. So, there's always this kind of tug of war between mutual ISM in parasitism. So the insects is the the microbe, some evidence coming from other groups that they're producing high mazes and other Oh. Okay. They might help the plant by producing some some more digestive enzymes though to break down the prey. Yeah there's. There's a lot to learn stole about what any given members actually doing inside of their incredible and again, going back to all of these things that can kind of come up. And just set trajectories on your one person right you have one career ahead of you and there's only so many things you can do in a day and think of all the different organisms you yourself have been able to look at and investigate to some degree. You know it just gets more and more intense, but I'm so glad as someone who's studied symbiosis in mutual `Isms you said it. So perfectly, it's this tug of war and everyone wants to kind of put paint mutual `ISMs as this nature. So inherently good and it's altruism no one's trying to get as much as a ken by giving his little back in. Return and that's just it waxes and wanes guessing over evolutionary time. But you just you know what you just said, there's some evidence that could eventually go to parasitism or that you know just because it's giving a place to live doesn't necessarily mean it's you know these organisms have the plants best interest in mind is just what benefits them for that time period. Dank. Yeah. Making it more realistic in real life than let's let's it's exciting. But one of the coolest things about the paper that you published which congratulations. That's awesome. is that it's not even just the pitchers itself or the plant itself that can make a big difference in what's going on in this community can also depend on where these plants are growing, right? Oh yes. Yeah. So that's in reference to another paper I. Always recently I kind of had to visas chapters come out around the same time this year. CONGRATS. By this is the the chapter that are takes kind of by geographic perspective. So innovational gradient study. So Elvis, no gradients are kind of this really classic approach in ecology because going up a mountain, you can have climatic changes that are somewhat akin to latitude nolte changes, but in in a much smaller scale. So that's made these systems really interesting. So a lot of different tax have been looked at animals and plants were you find this classic trend of decreasing diversity and or abundance with elevation looking further birds, invertebrates, plants, but it actually hasn't been looked at as much in microbes stance aging currently as we have the technology now but it's Still the case that there's not as much it's been known, but even in the short time rub. Off the past decade. Getting these data on on microbes were we're finding of very different trend to what we're seeing in macro organisms and that is the there isn't really a such trend. that. That, it's deferring of from April, the paper insomnia finding a trend that matches where you expect more organisms than others. You might see increasing diversity or no change in diversity. I think I've seen pretty much all all this lobes evening. Chris but. Questions, what's going on with microbes? So do seem to be a lot less dispersed limited. So we might expect that maybe they're not beholden to the same kind of geographical trends that larger organisms are but of the papers that have looked at microbes in an educational content, it's only a smaller subset of those that a look at microbes and maxims at the same time. So what I can figure it out as the depend is kind of Nice model for this or I don I think this works for a fighter town in general, but here's a system where you have community of microbes and macro organisms. The insects that are coexisting within this contained community. And certain nepenthes species are found at a variety of elevations there. There are a lot of species that are endemic to just single piece up. There are some like the one that I looked at, you can find going up the mountain so. Curious to know what you find when you look at those communities going up melby gradient. One question of course was whether I would find anything at all because I'm known had really looked at. These communities across elevation. So maybe those communities are don't chain so much because the the pitcher's control that micro environment, which is as I discussed before and does this pitcher actors sort of buffer that it doesn't matter what the climate like outside is. As long as you're in a pitcher throws immediate conditions of the fluid is what's important to you. So in that case, we might expect not to see any sort of elevation trend, and if it's a species that happens to vary a lot in the talked about species, impeach there's also differences in in the ranger variance within species. So some species vary in their range within species. So yeah I wanted to see a what, what is the balance between external and internal plant controlled forces in shaping the communities and be whether the the microbes and macro organisms experienced different patterns and what I ended up finding, which was interesting is that looking at the entire community of that Elvis gradient they're all in the same hitters for the insects use see the. Structured strongly by ovation and also because this happens to be species that has a wide range on or generally for for this on but but the the microbes on the other hand did not show as strong the trend with elevation. So talking about the relative strength of the effect here, right he was vastly more important to the microbial community structuring than allegation was. Thing. Who An it's amazing. Again, that you were able to find sort of this perfect model system to do this but you know just expanding that out into the ecology of even just the plant itself you can imagine worth one community within the pitcher changing while the other ones stinks stable and how that can modulate being a major factor in sort of driving this. But then you know you do see it at all these different elevations so you start to go. Okay. So what are the bigger implications for these interactions you know how dependent are they on? The is a vital towns are is at the right way to refer to tell Mata. Okay. So what is the contribution of these vital Mata and how much does that change the exceed the performance of I mean there's again these layers of questions to think about in the context of the bigger evolution of the species right? Yeah so both in terms of their evolution but then also on on more ecological timescales, how the the same species as changing interactions in different parts of its range. So I not only looked at the the the SIM beyond. So the the dip or the within the issues, but also counted the pray. For mostly ants but another thing I noticed and this is something you see with answer. Wa is they've really respond to this elvis gradient and their yearly drop off. Once you get to a certain ovation and the same thing that I see with these pitchers in the higher arts of this transact, there is much fewer and. They have to consume where there's lot less ants in the pitcher cobbling because there's less than the larger environment. So that's the also looked looking at all other insect orders pool because they're so few relative to the ants but the, but there was the slight increase however in the amount of non ant spray going up mountain still near the numbers are so much found the answer they're still getting a lot less spray but this had me thinking about possible local adaptation that that might be happening. So this seems to be a species that largely relies on ants on open question whether they're actively targeting ends by let's say that air features of their pitcher are meant to draw an answer of whether are lower elevations. It would be beneficial for them to change their attractive properties on at higher elevations so that they're more attractive to non-answer. They have properties that make them more efficient at catching, non and such as these flying insects, via Isan, wasps and Laptop Dra. Or higher elevation right so that that's that's that's that's hypothesis at this point. Conjecture. But yeah, it'd be interesting seeing whether there's any sort of pheno that corresponds to shifting their break after strategy. As they moved higher elevations. Yeah. That would be really cool to start poking around in because it makes sense I mean, here's an organism that again, like you said, it's it's living a lot of different places and as you grow up mountains, things change pretty drastically and I'm guessing it's very true in the tropics where that elevation makes a huge difference in. So the way that that can shave letters. The shaping of an organism just like you said in its day to day even beyond before, you can get to the whole evolutionary context of these these ecological interactions and how that might shape what's available pre capture is a big part of how they're making their living. So it makes sense that there might be some sort of driving force there that could differ that's. Awesome to think about. It is still bacillus when we speak of the species or. So. So this this study. radio. This was where I did in the Philippines on Mindanao on an it's an entities, Mindanao Owens's nice. Just as the name species endemic to Mindanao. This is not one of the ones that briefly mentioned that are endemic to single peak ser though I did work on a single peak. Tourism relatively easy to access as far as Mindanao goes which is. One one of those places where a lot. With a lot of recent species discoveries due to increasing access to other parts of the island. But I mentioned that about how mcgeechan. because. It's such a cool. It's now. A UNESCO. World Heritage Site actually has. Not One, but three endemic site endemic nepenthes species on it. Yeah independece hummy gates and dances view named after the mountain, and then also microflora Altana or endemic to that one mountain. who I work more comes beaches. Yes you find. You need your data. Yeah, and then couching that though in all of the work that you're doing, you know kind of going back to what we talked about earlier a little bit in terms of what they're doing with their pitchers y you know they could be all living there in Sim Patrie but be distinct species even though you see rampant hybridization among the penalties when humans get involved mean, there's so much to unpack with this group I mean, it is such an incredible system to be studying in Enron just from obviously you are really good at observing things and kind of using cues from being you know someone that being out in nature sort of that natural history observation style to inform your science than. When you're looking at these plans, especially minuets which covers a pretty vast gradient do like even anecdotally seed any indication like maybe the ones that higher elevation put more upper pitchers up in the canopy then lower pitchers that are on the ground I mean is there any indication or anything in your mind right now that stands out there could be saying they have different strategies, different places because of some of these gradients that you mentioned. Yes actually I'm yet you. So you mentioned the Pitcher Morrison that actually is. that. That was a big difference at the higher elevations I saw less of the lower pitcher morton actually while up there I remember saying, Oh haven't seen. You know the other pitcher more in a while really have two fight this one on them going up in scoping. So who knows, yeah, we had really talked about that morphological done more is yet. A realize. So her anyone that doesn't know that each each species. Two types of edges the lower. Which comes from vm Basil Rosettes and. Climbing finance are Wednesday reached the climbing based on there's a different morphology called Upper Pitcher, which is normally more streamlined. So. Yes. So if the different pitcher more Adopted for attracting different types of prey then that might feed into that strategy of. Shifting, targeted pray with allegation I mean that's so cool to know that though in in you know you have some data now to kind of bolster the thought process, but you also have that in combination with the observations that you've made. So it's not just like a shot in the dark. Now they're actually might be something serious going on here. That again is yet to be found in just requires boots on the ground and. Number crunching to release start getting the the some semblance of story I won't even say complete story 'cause? It's ecology. Is the story ever complete. God. But what a great system to have really kind of I don't want to say stumbled upon but really embraced. And it's and it's great because either charismatic. They're so cool to look at and I can't imagine a better way to be in the field just to kind of be surrounded by pitcher plants all day. That's pretty Rad but also. Know thinking of how weird things can really teach us a lot about ecology evolution symbiosis how these things work what gradients? Interactions among the natural world I mean think about all of the questions you can ask what just pennies at the center of it I mean this is such an awesome group for doing science on not just this curious thing that happens in a jungle every once in a while when plants need more nutrients, some sort of horticultural interests I mean, this is real Awesome Eagle. With some big implications. Yeah I definitely see it that way as well in the again That's definitely been a big part of the draw to me as well. You know both being able to work with all of these different tax up the different interactions, but also the fact that I get to touch on different elements of biology right like A. Genetic perspectives incorporating evolutionary viewpoint in as well as an ecological one and in thinking about how plants alter their micro environments venues start to get into. and. Currently in getting some of that perspective as well. Yeah. Against the restated a great system or studying all sorts of different interactions, ben studying it from all different kinds of perspectives, ecological, physiological, and evolutionary. You've got one heck of a career ready to go for you. That's awesome. So. Yeah Thinking about what you're doing where you're doing it the species you get to work with on a day-to-day basis when you are doing fieldwork I'm sure you've seen some incredible stuff out in the world end. Do you have any sort of field experiences or interactions with not even just the plants themselves but the wildlife or anything really that stands out that is like. This is why I do what I do a good story, a good field experience or good interaction with something else other than another human being out there that really Kinda stands out to you throughout this time. All this. So much about being in the feel of that is just. It just feels going like. Nothing else does. So I mentioned that be attack in this this. This is actually it's. It's this. Experience were there is a real chance that I could have died. But. Yeah. But that kind of life or death situation. Really. Made me reflect the fact that if I had had to golf than than it was it was kind of worth it in the in two zero in in this way the not so bad that was. Like one of one of the most beautiful sites have been but been to so many beautiful sites but I kind of had the the choice to fly back home. So I was I was in the hospital getting did for all of these stings had the the be removed my ear. Oh. One work is actually crawled in. Deep into my. Ear Canal. Big To understand, understand how? It was yes seven. AMAS hands down to the states yet the most painful experience I got stung dozens of times. I couldn't even Roy Tarpley counted, but it was forty times. Over my head but. I was when I realized that I I would recover. I actively made the choice to to continue. and. I I think that just goes to show even without talking Abou. been yet about seeing beautiful interaction thus just depend you know seeing him like crazy blogger. Yeah. It's art to boil it down where just the yet the fact that I could go through that still want to do it. Afterwards I I I. Think Joe's that it's Just something really special about it than I I wouldn't give up out. While and then that's that's what. That's what gave me that push I needed to continue through Grad school even when. It seemed Dang. Gossiping. Deadline certainly seem a lot less daunting after you've been hospitalized due to be stakes. While yeah. No. That is a testament to tried and true like the beauty you feel where the true biologists, the scientists that wants to get it done in leg that is a testament to your abilities and and really your passion for the subject that is awesome to hear. But I mean again not that I would wish that Anita one but I'm glad recovered and I'm glad you got back on that horse and just said, let's do this. This is amazing. Is Worth it and you're finding amid incredible stuff in the process you know had you given up? Again. That would have been your decision, but also there would be a big still blank box. They're going a what we don't know what these interactions are and it would have been someone else going and having the experience. So my hat's off to you, sir. So. Do you do grow nepenthes on your own or is this some a hobby? You've taken home with you at the end of the day or is it? You kinda leave it to the greenhouses in the field work in choose to spend your spare time otherwise Yeah. I'm I'm I'm actually not a grower. Afterma the MP's I have in the lab though I do have a small son do nice I have at home. One carnivora the home of just a few plants. I won't. Like, looking at my window sill, it's an collecting plants more and more but I still think that compared to other plant biologists I might not you out as someone who's a a plant collector yet? By. Other. Few. More. Weeks. It might change. I've really had I've I've really had more time offer. Ano- again. Nice during. That's been the the main hobby. That's excellent. That's that's I mean again it's it's the diversity of interests in what you do with your spare time is just as interesting because we all have to go home we all have done wine and it sounds like you probably get your fill during field work and you're really well immersed in it and you also are doing this in a lab. Yeah. Man Play some piano. That's awesome. So I, mean, what's next the obviously your post docking you've got a whole career ahead of you to start asking questions. You've given us some hints, but you know what's just over the horizon for Dr Gilbert. Yeah, right. So it's the first year move by hosts DACA. So continue at Penn state for your two more but the end game you know I. I really do want to continue down the academic rows. Of We got my own lab at some point where I can. Continue to answer lots of questions on M.. I've something especially appealing as time goes on with the amount of questions that keep coming up. Like how can you do this and one human why I'm are a It'd be great to have a allowed to devote to that. 'cause I I think I have enough questions kind of dough lava oh Hey can work for me. I've got ideas. Well I. Think I speak for everyone listening say we wish you the best than I really would love to see this trajectory of yours keep going because it's satisfying curiosity of people like me who don't get to go and do this in in the flesh. So keep it up in. This is amazing work if people WANNA find out more about it, contact you reach out learn more of how do you recommend they do that working they find you. So have. Own website yet but I, am I am on research. Gay. You find me easily not fun on him and Malu website for and state. Yeah, I, think that's definitely the Bay Wales. You're open to get an email and I will I will make. One then. Got, time. Is, it's the Internet man that people can find they need to but I will make sure to put a blink stahl those that people wanna find read or just reach out and ask questions or potentially give you. A. New Direction to think about it's not like you don't already have a ton of questions on your mind but thank you again for talking with us. This is really fascinating work in an an assist them. That's incredible and. Thanks, just blowing the lid off of these plans as more than just you know horticultural curiosities or something that looks bad as I mean, there's really good science, really good ecology and really good evolutionary questions going on here. So thanks for talking with us about it. I thanks for having me. I love this this great. Wonderful. Yeah. I'm glad it was a good experience for you, but otherwise have a safe and healthy day you. Cheers. Outright fascinating stuff isn't it? I'll never look at nepenthes pitchers the same way again and I think it'd be really cool to compare the pitcher plant microbiome of cultivated pitcher plants like the ones. I, have in my basement to what's going on in the wild and just to see what happens the different environments especially far outside of their native range. I think Dr Gilbert for taking time out of his busy schedule to talk with us and I really hope he gets a chance to get back overseas to do more in-depth studies of. Tropical. Pitcher plant communities of course, if you want to find out more about his work and get all of the relevant links to this episode police head on over to in defensive plants, dot com slash podcast, and just navigate to this episode number. All of the relevant links to all episodes are posted there. So you don't have to go searching over the Internet writing things down there. Also. I WANNA give a shout out to the two latest producers on this podcast. A big shoutout to Capi, and Alejandra thank you so much for going over to patriots dot com slash in defense plants in signing up to support the show at the producer credit level. So not only are they getting this awesome resume building title of producer. They're also getting access to stickers in multiple additional bonus episodes each and every month. But of course, thank you to all of my patrons because you are truly helping make this podcast available each and every week. For, free I could not be doing this on this level without all of my wonderful supporters over on Patriots. So thank you very much, and if you want to continue to support the show and other ways try picking up stickers over at inoffensive plants, dot com slash shop or pick up a ton of customizable merch over at t's bring dot com slash stores slash indefens- plants a portion of each purchase at both of those sites is being donated to plant conservation efforts around the globe. So not only helping support the show you're helping protect plants. Finally. If money in buying things isn't in the cards free, which I completely understand at the very least tell your friends about this podcast in review on whatever pod portal used to download it. Both are great ways to help in defense plants reach a wider audience otherwise keep turning back in as always. So many good conversations just over the horizon I'm very fortunate to talk to so many incredible people like Dr. Gilbert. But other than that I. Hope You all have a fun safe and healthy week hanging there everyone enjoy the outdoors if you can. But until next time, this is your host Matt signing out Adios everyone.

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LNE.news - S2E1 - BoxerBlu and Bram - Alexander Hamilton Had Slaves? - Nandi Bushnell vs. Dave Grohl

Little News Ears

08:53 min | Last month

LNE.news - S2E1 - BoxerBlu and Bram - Alexander Hamilton Had Slaves? - Nandi Bushnell vs. Dave Grohl

"You are you five. And i'm jake bram dad but some people call me bucks brew. And here's the new. Hi everybody today is december first. Two thousand twenty. It's world aids day dad. We been away for so long. Why are you bursting in with it. Being world aids day well serious day with aids is a condition that spread from a virus a lot like ovid nineteen and a very deadly. Yes i get that but gosh we have to say something else right like i'm five years old now. Oh yeah that's right. So over. The summer i turned five during five when we were in zoo. Senior yes. I remember that we were in zoos. Sania right far into the future and bram surprised me with my brother. Rupert it's made grouper. Next road is a letter cacique grant and you know. We spent time with my dad's dog food. Yes we also met my ex wife. Yes that was a little awkward. I have to say. I always thought it was like drew love and you would come back and you were gonna get married again or something like that. It was a bit like tommy instead. Tommy tommy oh okay well yes so anyway. We're back here in new jersey. Everything is calmer covid. Nineteen is still happening. We just had a great thanksgiving dinner. Yes up mathilde here again. Just like she. She was last year and then well since she's sleeping on the afraid. Yeah so we really would like to give mathilde home so so please just just drop us a line you know. We're on twitter by the way. We're we're boxer. Blue brand yes. We explain like why we different now. Oh yes i this new a purple and green sweater and saying yes that we change the way we look at what happened. You understand stores. We still doing that. What do you mean yes. That's the sound for when we chain stories right. of course that's still. Our first story happen in the netherlands. I think the name netherlands is so scary. Sounds like this scary land. I actually sometimes. People confuse the netherlands in holland. Yes but we know better. I know that hollywood is actually different. Areas combined rights nordin sweden holland and the netherlands are all twelve of the provinces together. You've done research. yes so anyway. What happened early november out. There was this train. Accident happened in the city. Cut speaking see. I do twelve thirty in the morning. Just one driver and the didn't stop went right off the rails but it was stopped by a piece of art. What by a piece of art. It's a wills tale by an artist. Nate martin's trees and it was just hanging there. Thank goodness for that. This is a rather strange Scientific story i read it in popular mechanics. He you know what you do. Yes anyway so animals that are crustaceans. Crustacean is like oh think of it like a shrimp for example. Shrimp is that type of crustacean. Right so at least five different crustacean that were not crabs have evolved into crabs. Let's yes so so we have to explain evolution and talked about it clinton. Yes i remember. Ever lucien is like you know. Let's say there are million drafts. And one of the giraffes is really really tiny as small neck for some reason no in his dna or whatever that drafts the be able to eat the leaf. Something the riott anyway done right yes. That's one simple way to look at. It will live so you can say that the long neck has kind of evolved help draft survive yes and so usually the crabs. everybody's crab november just. the. Crustaceans are basically for the same reason. Apparently there are benefits. They're good things about having a crab claw having a crab circulatory system and stuff like that. Wow this process called carson zeeshan right. Yes like not going to jail. That's different incarceration cool story. I can't wait till i get a drum kit myself. You know. My dad. And i play the guitar. Sometimes upstairs we to a little angry well bram still know your fingers one two three illinois got but anyway yes. So there's a girl or share name nandy bushnell she's british and she's ten years old and she's been having a drum competition with dave grohl dean cruel of the theaters isn't that the glistening. Yeah so how the started. Apparently dave grohl is not on social media. Good for him. Yes but people started seeing that mandy. Bush knows playing his songs. Little by little they were starting. It's starting to challenging each other and she. She's quite good whereas dave grohl season. Moore's los angeles party drummer whatever. Obviously he's quite good too but they're writing songs about each other and they got a friendship during covid nineteen. It's pretty amazing. Jewish finally subscribe to disney plus. And you know. We were watching hamilton the other day. It's so cool music so great. Yes but grandma. There's a new paper. that's an alexander hamilton. Even though he was a noted abolitionist. What's abolitionist again. Oh abolition somebody who's against slavery. Oh yes so there. There's evidence now quite a bit of evidence. It's sort of like thomas. Jefferson one of our founding fathers who apparently had a secret girlfriend while he was married nicknamed sally hemmings. But anyway this is about alexander hamilton. You know who he was by the way you think of is like steve mnuchin forefather. That's right he was the first the first secretary of the treasury right us and he also created the first bank and he also died in a terrible to be dual brand website. To be a dual. You could die everybody the where do yes so anyway. A researcher at the shuar mansion state historic site in new york state. She actually a paper. The basically said that there's no question about it alexander hamilton. He had slaves. It was then some counting books of his letters that he wrote. And it's clear. Oh my gosh and final story. Today you know there was a movie that came out in the ninety s. You've got mail. I never saw it. I never even had. Aol known l. is basically in france. This little small town english shy. It's an al sauce dorian. So basically this guy. He found little tiny message. That was an aluminum capsule from either. I don't know nineteen ten or nineteen sixteen. No short yes. I think i carry your pigeon. Dropped this this little note off. It's when prussia which was area boy. Ania germany area now but back then russia and so they control this area so they think had details about military drill practising to define around world war one. Oh my god. This is amazing out of time on my dad. He ordered this a little weird. Because my dad is my flowers and all i like i like flowers. I don't care flyers. Yes my dad would eat. Some mail just arrived yes. I don't really know what to do. It's a big plastic bag of mike brown's stuff. Yes so i'm in helping plants and that's where we're going to do now. This week's forget to check out videos. 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Lab 025: Skin Deep

Dope Labs

30:35 min | 7 months ago

Lab 025: Skin Deep

"Welcome back everybody it semester three. We have been gone so long, but let me tell you. We have missed you so much, and we have thought of you every step of the way right and you guys have been in our DM sand the same thing, so we're just happy to be back. A lot has happened in the first half of twenty twenty six months in two thousand twenty is the equivalent. Equivalent of ten years in actual time, so congratulations to all of you for making this far now that we're back, we're ready to dive. Right into what has been going on the main thing that's happening in my life and on the time line is black. Lives matter yes, and that's all black lives mattering and you know I think a lot of people have been protesting in person. Some people are protesting. Giving having digital efforts where they're spreading information, or they're donating or raising money or providing supplies for other folks who are protesting One of the things that I've seen is people are asking. How do I get involved? I don't know where to start and I. Think the key is to understand that white supremacy and systemic racism are widespread, so it exists wherever you are. You don't have to look far to get involved, and you really can start writing your own backyard and our backyard science, so we're pulling it up by the roots and examining the long intertwining history of science and racism. I'm and I'm Kia and from spotify studio. This is dope labs. You, you know you said this episode. We are going to be looking at the intertwining history of science racism. And I think we really got to tell people how we got here so in twenty twenty. some of the deaths of black people that have made national news. It started with Ahmad Aubrey. Black man that was gunned down by two white men, while he was out for a run a Brianna, Taylor who was shot by police who entered her home at night, and it turned out to be the wrong home Christian Cooper, who was confronted by a white woman in Central Park who threatened to call the police on him George Floyd, who was murdered by the police for. Using Counterfeit Twenty Dollar Bill Trans Women Dominique, rummy fells and Ryan Milton, and most recently Rashard Brooks who was killed by the police after he fell asleep in his car at a Wendy's, and there are countless other victims who don't get media attention, and we may never know their names, so t see. How does this all connect to our backyard science? Why are we focusing on racism and science? Specifically I think for the simple fact that a lot of people don't know it still exists or know the extent that it even existed in the first place because I think a lot of people think that science is so. Objective and like it's rooted in fact so. How could racism permeate the scientific community if we're all like? Holding this this beacon of light up saying here our facts and there's nothing else. That's influencing it, but that's not true. Yeah, the thing we know is that scientists are people, scientists and done in a vacuum, and is always swayed by the politics of the time. You know even when we think about this is not just a case for racism. This or this is not just a case for what? What we consider the interaction between race and science, even as we think about what is the next four array of science? If you think back to stem cell therapy, and then the US government put a clamp on that right and you, so you see how politics influence signs. This is not new, and so we're GONNA hold up our well. I don't know if we're going back in time so. Old, school. Antony van Lewin Hook microscope. And we'RE GONNA. We're GONNA peer right into there and see. What happened back in the day and how those things have effects on us right now with the Kea saying is we're going to look real close. That's right. What we know is is a system is often dictated by its roots so here we're digging up the soil to see how the theories and actions of the past led to us having tainted fruits today, so let's get into the recitation. So what do we know and what do we WANNA? Know I, think we wanna all start at the same place about understanding race like if you stop and think what are the races also ask yourself. How many are there? And do those categories that you think are race. Encompass everyone yet. The answer's probably no. There are three main points. Be Really WanNA think about to help us. Really frame how we're what we know about race in how will use that information moving forward to understand intertwined nature of racist science over time? So some of you may already know these things in some of you may not either way. We're not making any assumptions. I? There's no such thing as biological race genetic shows. There are no discrete categories of race right so there's no single gene that only appears in one quote unquote race. That doesn't appear in another quote unquote race. Race is a biological category. Will most of us think as race is actually culture and language and. It's been long proven that biologically there are no distinct quote. Unquote races as we understand the term now the second point is were all members of the same species. We're all homo. sapiens in roots can be traced back to Africa. Those visible differences that you see are due to founder effects where small group moves from the larger population and they lose some of that genetic diversity, and the third thing is that wherever there are multiple groups of people and one group is oppressing another group. There is a system in place, so it doesn't necessarily have to be race related. It could be religion class politics. And what we find is that history often repeats itself and racism is one of those systems, and even though we know, there is no biological basis, it still affects us because it affects our interactions day to day. So now that we've all set the playing field here. We're all working with the same set of information. Let's jump into what we want to know this episode. One of the things that I want to know is when did the concept of race and race science I originate. Whose idea was this? And then I'm wondering if we know all these things like racist, racism social construct. In it's been debunked. Why are people still looking for the same types of groupings using these artificial categories? Is it just the Gilding of tie? Have we been brainwashed? And I wanNA know what are some of the foundational scientific theories in science where race played a part who are some of the major players in science whose work was predicated on Ray Science Louis naming names, one of the classic examples of racism in science is Eugenics and Eugenics is a system of ideas and practices aiming to genetically quote unquote. Purify a population I. WanNa know who were the early proponents of Eugenics, and what were their motivations? I love that question. I also want to know. Where do we see racism in science today? Like a lot of people are gonNA. Say Oh, that must have been during a time when people weren't as informed and we didn't have the Internet, but I know for a fact, it's still exists today, and I want to know where it is. Just like we look back in shame on eugenics in fifty years. What we look back on today and say oh! My Gosh. I can't believe that was happening. Yes, because I think that looking back myself I wonder why tweets my eyebrows so much those pictures of you and Undergrad- understood I to tweets. My eyebrows is thin as A. Thin rating has six six eyebrow hairs on each side and I. Thought I was killing it well. I'm glad they made it back. Then quarantine they all back. All the here is back. Okay, and I think the final question is. Are we doomed to repeat ourselves over and over understanding this? What can the scientific community do to change course? Let's get into the dissection. This episode we're talking to Angeles Seyni a science journalist, who tackles the issue of racism and science, exploring how the to have co mingled over the years I'm Angela Sania assigns journalist based in. The United Kingdom and I write books really that look under the skin of science. Oh, exploring the reasons why people study what they do, what research tells us the impact of funding and bias and politics on science looking at both gender and more recently race, so to start. The dissection is important for us to figure out how they're ray science, and the concept of race started race, of course as a word has been. been around for very long time the meaning that it has and the way that we use it now. Obviously not the way that people have always used in history is superior Angela notes. Early uses of the term race dating back to the fifteen hundreds were used to refer to groups that were related so a family or tried it wasn't necessarily tied to physical characteristics with literally skin deep so the way that we use it now. To define as like Black White Brown, nor you know these kind of big continental groups is relatively recent, and it dates from around the time of the European enlightenment when naturalists and thinkers were starting to categorize, this is in Europe European thinkers was starting to categorize the natural world they were looking at flora and fauna, and drawing up these taxonomy, and they did the same with people. The Age Lightman a Europe was from the seventeen to nineteen th centuries, and it was a time in Europe when a lot of intellectual and philosophical advancements were being made modern sociology politics and science emerged during this time, and specifically in the scientific field, the biological taxonomy was developed. taxonomy is the science of naming defining and classifying groups of biological organisms on the basis of shared. Shared characteristics. If you have some background biology, you may remember the taxonomic classifications of genus and species. This is a to name system, so think Homo sapiens for humans that was ushered in by Carl Lena's. It's a well known in recognized system. We still use it today. While I was taught. That Linda's was the father of taxonomy. I did not learn that he was the pioneer. As a categorization humans. Did you know that no girl? He started with four races based on geographical location and skin color, and other scientists built on Wetland Aus was teaching, and you have to remember that we're talking about way way back in the days, so you can just hop on a flight. Check out Asia or check out South America to see what the people are like. Information was being exchanged about people purely on hearsay, and for a lot of scientists of. Of, that time, it was a lot of guessing about what people were like in other countries, so we have these categories that were developed many many years ago. Since then we understand that race has no scientific basis, so remember at the top of the episode. We talked about that and the question now is why race still rule everything around us? Ream the width. Thing is that we still live with these categories now we still use them. We have laid these. Enormous sets of meaning on top of these Very what will always arbitrary categories and given them a power that they never had to begin with so the way those categories were defined in the first place with very much informed by the politics at the time by slavery by colonialism by this belief in European superiority and the categories themselves formed a hierarchy in the minds of these European thinkers in which white. Male Europeans were at the top and everybody else was kind of slotted below. That became the basis on which modern day western science was done. Considering all this we have to ask. Why do people still believe racism thing though it was done decades. Is it because it was something that was said over, and over again for a long time, and people just accepted it. Angela explained to us. Why is so difficult for people to change their mind, even though in the last seventy years or so? Scientists have shown quite categorically and it's very easy to do this because like. I said these countries will arbitrate to begin with. Is Not you know it doesn't take a genius to Ben? UNPICK the biology and figure out that it's nonsense. The even the scientists have done that. They still have so much power even now because of the political value, they still have political money. There are still people who would like to be able to make the case that the inequality that we see in society is. Is, natural that is not because of historical factors that it's there because it was always there and always will be there. There are similar systems that uphold these hierarchies like there's class in the UK. There's cast in India and religion well everywhere all over the world. So now we have an understanding of the earliest iterations of race to classify groups of people, and how those classifications uphill the politics or agendas of European men during the Enlightenment Age and we know that this is when Western science. As we know it was born. So you got little baby science in the crib and his favorite plush stuffed toy is. Yes so race! Is that little baby's Lullaby to go to sleep at night so considering this thing that the birth of Western science we asked about some of the foundational scientific theories, and where race might have come into play if you take into account the fact that Modern Day Western Science Enlightenment Science was predicated on this belief that. There were races number one which we know now biologically is not the case. A number two that there was a hierarchy between these races that meant that some people were in some ways, even less human than others, certainly less intelligent. In the nineteenth century, the idea came along with Darwin that somewhat even maybe less evolved than others, so if you take that as a starting point on which the signs of human difference is built. So biology, all of biology is predicated on that assumption for at least the first one hundred two hundred years, then everything that came afterwards was guided by that, and if you're thinking well, surely they saw the air in their ways, not really in the nineteenth century when signs became professionalized, these ideas didn't go away. All they did was. They became more cofide and. Layers of meaning became built around them. It was the case then, and is still the case today using scientific language to describe something which validate your idea or belief always makes people. Take you just a touch more seriously, right? Not many people argue with someone who is reporting information that is quote unquote scientific fact, Race Science at the time lit credibility to these are incorrect ideas about superiority and one of the well known undocumented executions of these legitimize sinister ideas is eugenics eugenics really for me is the kind of manifestation almost the technology that comes out to ray science, if you. You want to think of it. That way is essentially saying we know that these will. We think we know that these differences exist now if some people are inferior genetically inferior to other people, and what can we do about about how to improve the human stalk or the quality of the race and Francis Colton. who was a cousin of Charles Darwin like his actual cousin, not his play cousin like as a cue was the man who came up with idea among many things, he also coined the term nature of US nurture. Which I think is one of the worst. In in scientific history, because nature nurture not two separate things completely intertwined anyway that aside he also coined the term eugenics and came up with this principle that. People Superior People. So the smartest and most beautiful should be allowed to breed more, and those who are inferior should be discouraged from breeding, and if we do that, then we can improve the stock of in his case of British race, and you have to ask who says the standard WHO's considered superior. WHO's the smartest by? What measure was beautiful? Right? Is it big is is freckles is long legs. I know what you're thinking. I'm describing my friends. Those moles not freckly. Take it. But it's all. Subjective and let's be really clear. These ideas were popular. This wasn't just at the fringe. The outsiders thinking Oh yes, eugenics is the way to go. It was completely mainstream on the right and the left. If any, thank, socialists were more. Excited about it than anyone Virginia, Woolf backstory are big kind of intellectual progressive heroes, many of them where you genesis and very firmly believed in this idea, and what behind it and Eugenics was not like a few years of bad behavior. It was more like seventy to eighty years. We'll put some resources on our website. That can give you the deep history. We could spend an entire episode on this. eugenics was I used to create the quote. Unquote perfect family. This means having families without disabilities or deformities in the idea was that they would just eliminate these individuals that they deemed unfit. Again subjective and those efforts weren't only in Britain. They were quickly adopted by scientists in the United States not just ideas but action when we talk about eugenics. I think the first things that pop into folks minar? Hitler, the Nazi party in the Holocaust, but Hitler actually took his cue from American eugenics sterilizations. In the US were adopted as policy in many states. and they. then became an inspiration for Adolf Hitler and this didn't stop in the nineteen thirties after the war, these scientists just rebranded. You know like your favorite influencers all right? We're GONNA. Take a break and when we come back, we'll look at racism in science today. Hey is td and I wanted to let you know that I had the pleasure of CO hosting season six of the podcast dissect with Coal Kushner, and it is out right now. Each season of dissect examined a single album forensically dissecting one song per episode season six takes on beyond saves monumental visual album lemonade through in-depth, musical and lyrical analysis. We follow beyond say on her transcendent journey from subjugation to freedom impasse seasons. Cole has sect Konya Kendrick Lamar Lauren Hill and a lot of your other favorite artists, so make sure to check out die set on spotify today, because great art deserves more than a swipe. We're back and we've already looked at racism in the past, but what about racism and science? Today we asked our guest expert Angeles Amy. What will we look back on and fifty years and say? We're not talking about those Janko jeans. You're wearing during that period of your life in two thousand two. I see it woven right through medicine and so many medical studies at take race as a biological variable completely inappropriately. I mean it happens routinely that it you know in my view. I wrote this for piece for the Medical Journal. Lancet, the other week. Medicine is almost keeping raisons live, and Angela tells his not just direct action that's. That's a threat either it's also people a blind I. You know it's it comes down. To what are you willing to excuse when you're not the victim of somebody else's hatred, then it's quite easy she to excuse that kind of behavior when you all the victim. It's impossible and I think that's a problem. Signs looks away. It does because all the people that can excuse that kind of behavior. Stay an old people who can't leave. And that's why signs looks wet does yeah, that is so true. There are a lot of people in the scientific community that look like well us. Yes, the scientific community is not a reflection of the general population. People are so invested in things, being innate and I think that let's US get comfortable with the systems that exist and continue to marginalize different groups. Are we doomed to repeat ourselves over and over? I really hope not. It does feel that way and I suddenly feel that way sometimes I mean. The number of my book came out about a year ago and the number of times of how to explain from first principles why races a Social Construct, even to journal. And Science Editors and scientists again and again again, and what frustrates me is that this was debunked decades ago? You know I'm not the first person to come along and say this I'm may be the ten thousand th person to come along and say this Lante did it. Google did it even before there was so many scientists that did it and they've been so many more sense there'd been. Been Declarations made fudge natick groups all over the world. This is a mainstream scientific consensus now races, a social construct, and yet we have to keep justifying not, and because we have to always start from these first principles. Whenever we have this conversation, we never moved forward so speaking of moving forward. What can the scientific community due to break this repetitive cycle one I? Do think representation matters. Just, because then you don't get silos of viewpoints and we know historically that silos viewpoints lead to mistakes in science. That's how ray science emerged in the first place. That's how sexism in science emerged in the first place. The other thing is to a breakdown high rockies. I think this kind of strict. An immense power that people at the top path and most of these people at the top tend to be white men. If you concentrate power in one person in any situation, they have more not to to abuse it and they do abuse it. We know that because we are now in the last couple of years with me to particularly we are getting stories of harassment and discrimination coming out. We need to have mechanisms that allow people to complain without fear of losing anything. people need to be held responsible for their bad actions. I would like to one of my big. Things at the moment is pushing for the teaching of history and social science within. Scientific Education If, we had a better idea of where our ideas come from. Then we are better place to correct them when we know that mistakes are being made and I would also like to see the social sciences and science and biology in particular, working together a lot more so that we can understand the social determinants of inequality as alongside biological fatness. This is a yeah i. what's difficult for people to grasp and understand is? That this is something that is an actual science and grasping the fact that you know part of our scientific journey. as science was being developed isn't rooted in something. That's objective. it was rooted in something that actually wasn't fact in to push the the agendas of a subset of people who wanted to explain their superiority, or what they felt like superiority and I think for most people when they think about. The scientific community is just not a part of their train. Of Thought, they make those assumptions that everything that's coming out of the scientific community has to be fact because that's what we're charged with being objective in a world of subjectivity, and you know the crazy thing is, that is not just biology you know I knew some of these things from. My thesis work you know. I was really heavy into DNA repair mutagens so I already knew like James Watson and what he was saying. But I didn't know it was statistics and comparative Anatomy I didn't know it was. Behavioral Genetics, all of these other fields to. and so you start to see how widespread in prevalence it is. I think it also is tough. Right because sometimes when you talk about this kind of stuff, people saying you're anti science or you or you don't love science like they do, and really you're just one science to be better right and the thing is is that science does not exist in a vacuum it informs policy, and it informs our politics, so if something is being pushed through the scientific community it will. Will eventually show up in various ways in our laws, and that's a huge impact. Yeah, we've seen it happen before, so they really have a duty now to say, this is where I draw the line. This is where we get inequitable health policies right and I think if there's anything I want folks to take away from this is i. want you to think if I know. That race has no biological. Ground stand on. Then racism is for what. For what you know like. It only racism only exists because race exists, and the scientific community has supported race and I think there's it's time to really make it cannon that we know this does not. This is not real right and like Angeles. Amy was saying it limits the growth that we can have as a society if we can't get past that first hurdle. That race is a social construct. It was something that was created by a group of people to create this system. This structure that made them superior and other people fall below them. If we can't get past that first hurdle, how can we get to the other stuff? It reminded me and I was looking for the quote. Just now of this Tony Morrison quote that says the function. The very serious function of Racism is distraction keeps you from doing your work. It keeps you explaining over and over again. Your reason for being somebody says you have no language, so you spend twenty years proven that you do. Somebody says your head is shaped properly, so you have scientists working on the fact that it is. Somebody says you have no art, so you dredge that up. Somebody says you have no kingdom, so you dress that none of this is necessary in. There will always be one more thing. And that keeps us from getting to the good part. You know and we're not here saying that we're colorblind. We absolutely see everyone's differences in color and culture and background, and we respect it, but we do know for a fact that race does have an impact on all of us even if it doesn't exist well, I think we've just lift with this idea for so. So long it does shape how we live. You know race just because something is a social construct that doesn't mean it doesn't have a profound effect on your mind on your body from the second that you're born, it completely defines how society works in the same way that other social constructs like democracy or capitalism or communism or well, if a system that you're living. Race is a system that we're living under and. Understand it that way, then you can start to understand why it is so difficult to shake. That's IT for lab five, but we have so much more for you. Dig into on our website. 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"The wacky gun talk after show crews was gathered and there's no telling what they'll say. Oh time we're a bunch of around here because they have to show we talk about stuff and then during we talk about stuff and then you guys kind of catching a theme here. We just kind of talk about stuff. We've got Michelle. GM here ear. Hey guys I was just on facebook. I'm part of a facebook group about Revolvers you got at these private groups that are not open to the public. This is a bunch of revolver folks. I love that album was Beatles. Yes I got it. Okay But they were one of the things and like a lot of our own old gun. Writers Really Border Patrol. People people like that but one of them was say. And you know and you're GonNa love this that three twenty seven federal her. Yeah all about that. I thought that was a hoot because these are folks have I mean these are collectors. They've got a lot of revolvers and all of that and they're Sania package there that whole three twenty seven federal and is is it just a few people to figure that out our general public know that now coming from the guy looking to get a lever action. Hey can order. Thank get a hank. I'm and I would like to get a forty five but even better if I could get a fifty fifty fifty caliber lever X.. With can now that'd be awful. They do have the have you seen the Tactical Lever Actions. Oh No Michelle knows. Yeah Yeah I having taken a very traditional gun in you've missed they've got Pitney Raoul's they've got the Oh you you could put lights and lasers and chainsaws. Yeah and they're black and there are and for some folks that are just really cool. Well if you didn't grow up with John Wayne going. I love this thing you did. You're looking at it and go. Oh why would you do the mature. SP something for everybody. But there actually is a fifty cal lever labor action. You can get fifty couch hayward for the five hundred line Baugh who does that. Big Big Timber Grey suit south yet. That's making they're expensive. They're fifteen hundred two thousand dollars lever action guns but the five hundred findbaugh like a hammer. Holy cow that would be so. You'll damage the meat on squirrel. It only want that if you could get rest shot oh you can just get shotgun. Recreate the wheel. Well how can you. What would that hold two rounds but with the barrel beyond that time the barrel the length of the barrel out of fifty Oh onto my lover action rifle? Yeah in a fifteen to sixteen inch barrel sixteen to eighteen here Kamini. You'd still be able to probably have six or seven. Yeah it's still a handgun round. It's not a forty five seventy seventy. It's just like a long forty five Colt so you probably get six or seven rounds. Fifty s bose. Yeah that'd be cool now now now. I'm curious because I know I know that there's some outfit. Let me see five hundred line. I got look it up. EMA SPELL EUGENE H Roy rifle into the ball bighorn armory. That's what it was and I was a little bit off on my guess on the price. Thirty five thirty six nine hundred six hundred dollar deposit giving deposit and don't even ask us for a while like a year or two now. Let's see barreling standard is eighteen inches twenty two inch barrels and extra three hundred dollars or if they cut it down by two inches. It's next the three hundred dollars what I'm getting less than I gotta pay more. If you're an octagon barrels and other seven hundred fifty fifty dollars. Wow holy cow seven canal trying to find out. How many rounds does it hold her? No no but it's a bunch that's cool. It's cool looking though man a heavy rifle loaded would. It's this the magazine capacity is seven okay and it's seven pounds eight ounces or eight pounds two ounces. I guess depends on barrel length but you now now they give you plenty of time to save up money to be able to buy. The ammunition is up by six hundred dollars deposit down. It's probably a year or two dude before you get a gun When we're celebrating Tom Gresham's thirtieth broadcast? Your you'll get it or congratulations by the wing thinking little wearing. Yeah yeah another month or so. They've got oh they also chambered this thing. You love this Michelle and the five hundred Smith and Wesson. Yeah so there you go. Oh you can get it in a four sixty Smith and Wesson in the PIP squeak measly forty cold as well so yeah. Thirty seven hundred bucks bighorn armory and it's gorgeous. They use beautiful wood. I guess you'd expect to get the money but I mean look what what would you use it for. I don't know bear gun cowboy action shooting can't wait when you want to shoot the guys horse. The Oh my God. What was that movie? Oh brother where. Who's where the guy shooting the cows in the baby face Nelson? I think the character he says. Oh no george nod the cattle Loved him up and turned demand through a Horny toad eh nicely. Alex Kerosene in blazing saddles. Were punches the horse. Oh God she s never mind that here comes Mongo. Yeah that's pure o brother where art just pure Coen brothers and it's it's like Fargo such a funny movie and it's not like you see it the second time you realize man. That thing is violent dark. It's dark it's funny as all get out but I mean there's people getting hurt and killed and everything else in the middle of the comedy. It's it's Bizarre Act. Just yesterday. We watched she was the name of that thing. Burn after reading it. Yeah it's a Brad Pitt. Coen brothers early Brad Pitt. When he's pretty young and it is same deal watching on Mrs Funny but boy? This is bizarre and twisted and the whole deal and Garden Avenue it was in just came on at the end instead. Joel and Ethan Coen well. That explains everything. And there's a lot like Tarantino thought pulp fiction had a lot of funny funny parts in it right but it was dark Ya. We're dark twist is like you know I'm not sure I'd want to live in the mind of the people who come up with that stuff. Yeah it's like okay. What's going on inside that brain anyway anyway anyway? So Anyway we've somehow I've gone all the way from Lever Action Rifles to Queen Casino going now. So are there any good movies featuring rifles. Oh I know one of quickly. That's what one or yeah of course. That's not a lever action. No Oh ooh lover. I'm sorry that's okay whichever. seventy-three is the name of the movie and the name of the rifle starring She May Stewart. Do It really gesture. seventy-three is the name of the movie. I have to look that one up it is. It's actually a really good if you like Westerns It's a really good western and it's all about this rifle cool. It's very cool man so there actually are some decent movies that kind of feature her guns and then you have things like Oh. Here's a Lever Action Terminator. That's right remember was. Yeah aw the motorcycle. I would've thought pump but it's never yeah. It's elaborate actually spinning in doing the cocking action on it. I mean it's a it's a made up movie gun all right right but kind of fun. I think I wanNA say Michelle Shotgun. I'm sorry you had me lost Brad Pitt. What was that? uh-huh somebody bring her back here. Please well there's little something for everyone here guns for us and Brad Brad Pitt for you so there it is totally against it and then. There's Tom selleck. So there's that too yes. We were shot in Iraq. We're doing this show one time radio show and my wife was outside outside at the Taurus booth and she's kind of looking for the guests who come to make sure they come in and sure enough. She looks over. There's Bob Morrison President Taurus. And he's talking to Tom Selleck and she's huge fan. She walked over to Bob. You introduce me or what they dislike. I mean come on. We're we're not going to be shy when it comes to this. He's a real gun guy so like this. He's serious about it as was Chuck Connors as was Chuck Connors who rifle man and then Robert. Conrad just died this week. Wild Wild Al West Jim West. Remember that series one of my that and Johnny Questrom like my two favorite shows of all time late sixties darned. Yeah and Yeah Robert. Conrad Conroy was in wild wild west and I think it was before that in the Black Sheep Squadron Bob Black Sheep where he played can be boring than flying corsairs corsairs Yup and also did all the duracell commercials go head off my shoulder member. Don't remember those but I you don't remember that. Set me again exactly yeah. I'm pretty sure it was him Robert. Conrad because he was he really was a pilot so we got all all that together. There's just some kind of weird connection between I think a lot of not all shooters a pilot about a lot of pilots shooters for whatever they use in gunsmoke pistol and everybody occasion would have a lever action rifle because they all had that and then of course the rifleman I'd say connors and the whole deal there and anybody who and we all tried it. Anybody who has tried to shoot from the hip fast with a lever action racket. Ah that you are lucky to hit earth it just just. You can't hit anything shooting that way. I couldn't you know weird not using sites and I'll shoot shoot from the hip where amazing. You wouldn't be able to hit anything who would've thought that right. Now what did you think about our twelve borough who called in. I want to know about the air pistol in my millimeter. Yeah I thought that was pretty precious. Yeah trying to do some research before they obviously go on and make a purchase together as a family so you knew that it was a family unit working there and that's always awesome to see who it is. I don't know you may have been on the phone own Michelle I recommend always on the phone talker personal. Excuse me. I suggested gesture that they go with a regular rifle not an air pistol and get it in two to three now easier to control easier to control more versatile. Certainly you're going to be more accurate than shoot a pistol a are I mean I know the piss layer is cool these days. But if you're getting your first one they did not have any type right you can use it and function right and you know he may try some long range shooting and get older. He can build his own. Do sure exactly. So He's let's see twelve he's he can buy a rifle at eighteen right. Yeah but he has to be twenty one to buy hanging he can only handgun He just can't can't purchase it right right so there you go in. So that's why you know you could tell us making sure that if I understood that. He's not buying this himself. Shane the point that out but do well. There are a lot of people could twisted twisted around or get confused or your gun and then twelve year old. Well I yeah that is true. Yes matter of fact yes you have the coolest part to me about that Khalas. What's that he wasn't different than any other caller? You didn't patronize them. Nobody afterwards although it was cute to have to over just we just show just rolled on. He was just another caller collar guy. Yeah it was Reagan guys we're going guys and gals. That's yeah you're right and we have you know the guy who's in his eighties call in Dan who had the guys twelve. Who Calls in and you know he has no background? It just doesn't matter we're just at the community it's just a community and and this may be the first show. I don't know twenty five years of us to get to the subject of leprosy in a new high diller handed to you. 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Gem You got the you can play the spot is what the heck here right after the already. Shut down. Okay yes it's the truth. That was ever ready spot for Robert. Conrad a commercial in you know. I don't remember that it's surrogate off my shoulder but weird. I'm Evan Sleeping that day because in the spot they say you know things that really drained batteries like calculators calculators and cassette decks cassette players. What are those? I just call us up because one of those You're wondering if somebody is not collectible. I gotta find this thing to stand by here. Just saw an ad there. It is okay a fisher. Sure vintage cassette deck the vintage sears audio cassette deck someone's got on craigslist craigslist for eighty. Nine dollars now thinking this thing could be an anchor for a boat or something and the idea that somebody thinks he's GonNa get eighty nine bucks for this thing probably will. I had one as a kid. I've been looking all over and I got. I got a stack cassettes that I don't know what to do with play them there. You Go metoo action. It's funny you mention that because in the middle of the show. I got a text from my buddy Jordan. Can you transfer old real the reels and cassettes two CD for me. So that's what you're doing during the show you were doing something over there yes I typed a ten one thousand character response saying yeah. Thanks for pulling me away from what I'm doing right now because it wasn't important. Reel to reel really really cassettes. He wants on a CD which I got. Here's a trivia for you trivia but a cool fact last year two thousand nineteen was the first year in how many years that that CD sales were trumped no pun intended by vinyl sales in Maj really. Yeah vinyl CDs last year. It's a who is making a comeback. I didn't ever think would take over that but yeah I mean obviously CD's or down to nothing anyway. But I still. That's kind of interesting. It has anything to do with guns. But that's okay I don't know but it doesn't really matter because we find it interesting and that's good for you can throw an album up in the air. Pull in fact pigeon probably have done that vitamin actually. I have before there were. LP's is there. Were these very thick. Now do you seventy eight. RPM got a couple of those singles seventy eight singles to go along with their singles. They sing anyone. I don't have to go online to find out so Michelle you can do it another thing all right. You have a job to do over there. You know just thinking Brad Pitt Cancer. I'm sorry did you say something. Oh Good God in that Oscar Room mistaken for all the time. Yeah if you want to see him and very young burn After reading I think John Malkovich. Is it weird in practice. Francis doernen though and mcdormand Fargo. Yeah big fellow aren't all right. He's a big fella. Don't you God. That was funny and since we can break every broadcast kissed protocol and procedure. Thank you for that about it was was. I thought that maybe Oh. You're putting somebody on the sweater in the chipper a little. He put them in the woods zipper. That's the way to go. You don't want to be cremated or anything else. Help your garden out. Become mulch right may word go back through Google the video twenty two rim fire Magnum magnums magnums. uh-huh that was interesting. Call and I. It caused me to go start looking up and found that savage that would be very nice rifle twenty two magnum Agnes semiotics with the trigger to make eight. Yeah eight twenty to make Yup Yup. That's pretty cool. And then you got a one. One Point did ruler. Ever make a ten twenty two in Magnum. Oh I don't think I don't think so but wag way back in the dark recesses of in my mind it almost seems like they did and then they stopped doing it but I just don't remember you know let's get who that. Yeah yeah the Yahoo thing right. Ten Twenty Two magnum ten twenty twenty two deluxe stainless does Ruger still make ten twenty two magnum which leads you to believe they did at one. That's big I think they did for a while. I never had one in which would have been cool. So yeah there's somebody selling receivers apart so yeah. I've seen that they did offer wer. Debbie are warmer warmer. That's right exactly exactly. That's that's actually a significant boost over twenty two rim. vire belong rifle. Wow how many do you think they made Mr Trivia. Don't look twelve and I got serial number thirteen. They didn't sell well. So there. You gotta be sold forty thousand of them in two years time. Yeah and see. The problem is for for a lot of gun companies. That would be a lot. That'd be happy for going out. That's not gonNa work for us when you consider their on their what millionth of that ten twenty when he to standard I mean I don't know what the number is but maybe pushing ten million gotta be up there. Yeah it's crazy numbers. I mean it anybody who's been shooting for a long time. That doesn't have to be hard to imagine. Even if even if you're new to it that's scandal the epitome it is and I will tell you the takedown is so much fun love that little poppet apart and flight. It's got comes this little cool Nylon Alan case and wow did they release that same year they released the forty four may have and the data six million of them row or six ten twenty two That's a lot for those keeping score at home. That's it and I think the chatting and everything has run out on it and other people are making taking knockoffs of it now starting to see though so. Meanwhile I'm still looking at the big horn armory five hundred linebaugh and wondering if if they will take instead of thirty seven hundred thirty six fifty if you in volume sure yeah. I'll take twelve of them. Sure this is like like one of those things. You're thinking okay. By the way they are in Cody Wyoming. I didn't know that so next time. I'm encoded. Have to go see folks bighorn armory. It's a gorgeous looking rifle. If I'm I don't know I I keep looking at lever actions. I do have to forty-five seventies but I really want one in a handgun cartridge. Twenty seven no fat. I want this crowd. Looks like your thumb cartoons about the size of your thumb bill. Fat The thing that we shoot it you can actually see the bullet going through the air. It's like you're throwing a brick out there. You could hear the wind as the bullet goes the by by the way Michelle Nice Fight Club. Poster Brad Pits Famous Movie Fight Club. Come on how sorry. I'm stuck in a river runs through it. Uh Boy that's twenty looked like A young Robert Redford and so there. You go efficient. The old car fly-fishing shots gorgeous. Were all the Violin Music Jim. Uh can you know he's going to call you. Michelle breath colleen's so okay so I'm looking at big army. They've got one of these with the suppressor on it MHM Neko would never know you shot. It could knock their car over. It would only sound like a forty four meg. Think Gresham's cutting back here. Here's my gift for you today when you get on Youtube do a search for Rhino attacks tax car. Okay yeah just one of those Ba- careful who you pick a fight with because in this rhino takes on this car with people in it and the Hercamp or was he's rolling the car you've seen this. Yeah it's cool yeah you oh. You don't WanNa piss off Mitt Romney Rhino. Yeah there you go. I got several with Sergey. Did there there it is so it is what I what I kept thinking as I'm watching it is they don't make a gun big enough right because this animal looks like a tank and he is pushing this car car around. And then he actually flips it enrolls over upside down and then keeps shoving it and moving it all around and is there a gun that you could carry that would be. I mean I know people have shot him with big guns and all but whatever you're carrying would feel the exact wording. I'm just watching a couple times times. Yeah it's it's unbelievable and you're thinking you know five hundred nitro express maybe holy cow. Jesus piece I know the ostriches. Just check it out go eat. It'll watches dude man. Hey Man I want where he's Wilkin. We taught them all mess with John. He's got a short temper over there. I'm I'm telling you oh this is really cool. It is cool. I'll tell you it's my gift for you today. Is that when you look that you're going okay. I got send that share. That gets crazy crazy but that was my first watch. I'm thinking holy cow has said. It looks like the painted like a zebra. Maybe I thought it was and then simple another. SUV painted the same way. Yeah it's well it's out there on a game. Parking episode deals and what Ryan Got Tired of car following him around on who. You're looking at dude you know. Wow it was just deliver your pizza you jerk. So that's when you want your five hundred linebaugh lever action by Bali and twelve people behind you with five hundred nitro or something holy cow. Yeah it's the old well that's probably enough F- for Dangerous Games like when you see. Bears Grizzly bears and how fast they are and how strong they are anything. Whatever it is you carry? It's not big enough. It's it's just not. I'm sorry. Specialize they're closing the distance. Oh God you're so. They can run as fast as a horse. Yeah no that's what that would be a place. Where forty five seventy lever action wouldn't be a bad idea with hard cast bullets so you could put shots on it accurately and shoot fast West from the hamlet though not from the or tweet interim fire yes good kneecap your buddy and run our points though? Sorry Dude Guy and you know just what it is by the time you know you got mauled. The forensics would never show that there was a bullet hole that many gloss right over that yeah tags be good good to go so I'm glad that we could you know kind of St- I cover the whole gap from leprosy to murder in one. After show well wouldn't be directly murdered be incapacitation probably manslaughter. Enslow you get off with. It'd probably be accomplished before. The factor. Something that's right so if you've been we're back at the beginning of the show with red kit being much just kinda ruined the whole show her. She's toast for the week. All right go ahead. What was your question? I have no idea okay. Assume that I actually have some idea. We're doing that clearly is not the case. She's visibly flustered for. Oh my goodness woman here. Oh Gosh okay well okay. Let's see we are for my favorite call. Today was the guy who had jumped into the twenty twenty twenty three call. Kevin wasn't that a cool. The Kevin Kevin or Ken. I think it's Kevin what it's about. We won't say it was. It's fine so brads Brad Brad Right Brad Ed so Kevin Actual Tennessee Kevin from Knoxville. Yes and he wrote letters and got an email back and then got a callback from senator. That was pretty cool from Democratic senator from a Democratic senator. WHO said Yeah Support Your Own Second Amendment and we're not not going to do? Is this a state senator. Now we're not GONNA do these red flag also of course you've got to follow up and pizzas fire but you know the fact that he decided to get involved and actually do it and some actually read something I wrote or listen to the show that stars the amazing part to me. Both of our fans actually listened to try. Well one was out of town on that week. So just Kevin it's all but thumbs up Kevin good job but yeah absolutely so. Let's say oh so. Wake wake up at five o'clock this morning and I don't know why not thinking about reloading laying in bed romantic. I know I know what a guy before coffee. I'm thinking of Red Dot powder Michelle which is thirty burn. It's better now but back then it was really dirty. Used to load it in shotgun shells and forty I five. ACP and thinking about when my dad had me loading his shotgun shells for him. When I was a kid I'm like ten or eleven? He decided to get into the trap shooting and a bunch of them got together and built to trap rains. Now here's the deal. Where does the term poll come from and we had this whole one field trap and the trap house? You had to have somebody in the trap house because that person when they cocked the trap that I would put a clay target on the trap. There's going to be throwing the target and then connected to that trap was a rod that went underground. Came back all the way back to where the shooters were and a poll that stuck out of the ground. And you had a trapper the puller when you call pool he yanked back on this like five foot long pole and and that release the trap. That was way up there in front of everybody and so and so I looked it up and he said Yeah. The originally used us like a string poll. Spring thing that you'd call somebody would put on a string or rope and that's why we call pool for trank right so yeah but I was like slave labor load. Wouldn't add shotgun shells with fiber was before plastic halls and plastic cases Japan. Her paper hulls. Yes and Michelle test this that it is always interesting when you run. A vacuum cleaner over a live primer. Because it will go in there and it will go off and fire inside your vacuum cleaner your mom and just loose number seven seven and a half shot. It's tough on vacuum acquiesce. It is yeah. Yeah it's just like anybody gravel you know. It's just awful. Oh well the life of gun folks you find that forever pelvis. The little pieces of shot everywhere FAB everywhere everywhere. I like the Visual Visual your dad taking a rifle rifle the school and you said try that nowadays kids. Yeah things have changed. Yeah no kidding. And of course him is this little kid in the hospital bed and they bring him his his rifle and he's just pointed everything in the hospital. Nobody thinks twice now. No big deal. It's not it's actually you're right and it's not a big deal boy handy way. You guys have a fabulous week. I'm going to go. I ordered a scope and some low rings to put on that rule number one that I bought before shots show in. Its in Ammo for the thing too. Because it's in two eighty ackley Klay improved. I do not have any AMMO for that. And actually it's factory load now. So nostrils loading it and hordes loading it nice. You can always make brass out of regular to eighty to eighty in there. But I'll probably just go ahead and get some of the low to them so I'll start off with brass already made but but it's GonNa Force me to get back into loading cool which I've been out for a long time because they're just not much in the way of factory available in a high so that'll be fun. The loading equipment has changed drastically. What hasn't it's the same? Yeah well they make modern stuff. That doesn't much better and faster. You know middle what I wanted to change just the same as it was digital scales for one thing and powder measures you guys are so progressive There Jeez obviously time to go long as long as we're not Bernie Sanders kind of progressive rigs. Exactly we're not socialist anyway so there's that single stage baby single stage all the way if you wanna make really accurate hammer except that now. They're making super accurate AMMO. Progressives doesn't seem to make any difference at all you get your load worked up crank out by the gazillions. It's amazing really. 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QD 01: Best of Greece

Extra Pack of Peanuts Travel Podcast

21:58 min | 10 months ago

QD 01: Best of Greece

"All right here. We go quarantine. Diaries go number. I don't know I guess number one now because we didn't do the other one you put it on. I G I mentioned that. Yeah just this part of our quarantine diary all right three to hello travel nerds and welcome to the extra pack of peanuts. Travel podcast this show. That helps you dream about travel while stuck at home during a quarantine. I'm your host Travis Sherry joining me. Today is the person who thinks it's GonNa be fun to test my memory. She said Oh well then everyone will just know you have a bad memory. My wife and constant travel companion. Heather Hi everyone. So today we decided what we would do is just discuss some of our favorite destinations around the world and some of these already have a destination diary that you might have listened to. This is more off the cuff. I have some cards here. If you're watching the video of this and we're just going to pick one of the cards and try to answer the questions on here for the destination so traffic. I'm not prepared. I don't know if I'm going to remember to do research. I like to make sure I know what I'm talking about. She is not giving me that opportunity today. But so we're GONNA do Grease during this episode and we should mention. This is part of our quarantine. Diaries so we're going to be doing quick hitting podcasts. There also live on TV. You can listen to it on the podcast feed or you can watch it. Live or we're videotaping. This guy and this is going to be unedited. We're not setting these two are editor. They are just going to be coming to you directly whether it's audio or the video so if you are listen podcasting on a C. R. Smiling faces head on over to TV and watch it that way. If you watch TV great just remember you can also get these on the podcast feeds and we'll be putting these out a couple times a week. Because there's you're supposed to be short fun and part of our quarantine diary sessions. So we're talking Greece today and basically my thought behind this was that it would just be kind of like a reminiscence. A conversation between traveling me and unfortunately we can't converse with all of you out there but it's just supposed to be fun travel so don't get tied up in the fact that you won't be able to remember Mimi. The memories will come to as we start talking about Greece. I mean we got to Greece by way of one of your favourite countries Georgia. Yes and you were sick for the first day. Yeah we were not. We spent one day in Athens and I was in the bathroom the entire day so I made it out for two hours to go. See the PARTHA. Actually I guess we should have started with worst memory. I don't have that on here in the cards because I wanted to be positive but I guess that was probably a pretty bad memory is it parthenon are Pantheon. Why do I always forget which ones in Rome in which ones in Greece? Well there you go see restart. I told you unedited already there. You go so. That was not the best memory. But then we went to the islands of sanitary and the Paros Paros first then censoring and so I believe most of the answers to these questions will come from one of those two islands whether Paros used or censoring. So you've got two cards. Have you got the power remount power? This is the first all right. The first card is best. Drink best drinks so just think about our time in the? You're gonNA answer these two. I I have mine all right. Well you go give me some time because I was thinking. What did we really drinking Greece? And we stayed on the island of Paros which was my favorite island and my favorite accommodation. It was this really cute. Bow Cheek hotel up on the cliff and it had an infinity pool in fact. I think that we just posted a picture on instagram. Today of trump swimming in this infinity pool anyway. My best drink is there because tell people what hotel it is. I don't remember the name but in the end the testing hotel one traff zero. We've actually had quite a few people who have listened to our parse destination diary in a father's for Awhile Goethe Hotel send you like a lot of people have said. Hey this was awesome. We appreciate you recommended that so if you are going to look it up hotel sunny. It's gorgeous yeah and my best drink there because they had delicious wine. I think it was local wine. I I don't know if it was from Paros but it was at least Grecian wine. It was so good it was white wine. It was really nice in Chris but we just sat there and we drink it on the deck overlooking the sea. I mean that was pretty amazing and that hotel also had really good food. I mean it was just a home. Run all the way around. My best drink was on the island of Sand Tarini. So we're going to switch islands real quick and I don't know I drew that out so much just making sure. My head was on Santa because I haven't had a chance to prepare and this was at a place called off rose which is a little more number the name of the restaurant. Even I looked it up before this in the five seconds I was giving and we just hung out here twice actually two days in a row right on the beach. You know they have the the. If you're if you're eating at the restaurant the restaurant you can go sit on the beach in the beach. Loungers tip because some of the beachside lounge chairs you have to pay to sit in however some of the restaurants. If you eat there you can sit in the chairs for free cell and so we did ass. Oh right off rose you know. We just got a few years. It wasn't that the beers themselves or so great. But what is a bad beer when you're sitting on an amazing Greek island in a beach? Lounger eating amazing food as well. So yeah the beard offer us now. Is that the police that we also got the Calamari. And I don't know you just wait. I'm not giving away my secrets. I've got very limited knowledge here in my memory so the next cart is best meal all right so I'm GonNa Roll right into this then for me. It was actually. I'm going to give you two because again. There's I remember food more than anything else. So at off rose they had amazing. Calamari and an amazing Greek Salad which is just a thousand times better version of any Greeks out. You could make it at home. It's the same ingredients. Tomatoes Olives Fed Oliva huge chunks of their off rose awesome and they had incredible Kalmari so again eating and drinking on a beach lounger on the beach. Insanitary wasn't credible so we really liked that little beach bar called off Rose Okay. So my best meal was actually a place that even if I could remember. I don't think I'd be able to pronounce the name but we did talk about it in our destination. Diaries they think it was our best meal when we recorded that and it was this place on Santorini not near the beach at all. It was actually like up mountain. Autocracy Max acce- Max. That's what it was. Yeah Moss. Moss Taxi Mass M. E. T. A. X. Imas this memory. I'm so impressed. I yeah that was. I looked that up Like I spend a Lotta time researching that before we went and people just mentioned that this was an incredible meal and it was very hard to get into. It's because it's popular and sandrine is a very popular island now. We were there at the very beginning of September which was a great time to go because the weather was stunning and it was a little less crowded. But it's better to make a reservation. Here we happen to just motorbiking around the island. It was pretty early still I think it was only four so it was early for dinner and we. We drove up hoping that we can get in because it was such a weird time to eat and they had a table for us. It was inside. They have outdoor seating tubes. A lot of people like to go for sunset because even though it's not on the water it's like up on a mountain you can see so much of of the the island in the sea and it's just gorgeous and the food was incredible in gray. Hit some sort of caramelized dessert. I remember I just remember like a much better Bockova. Unbuckle Osgood but I just remember it. Being better than my favorite was the fettuccine that deep fried in feel oh dough covered with fresh local honey incessant. That's what I was wondering not caramel okay. Yeah Oh my gosh. I'm going to give more. There's a year-old place called steakhouse. Eero which was is the best year. I've still ever had in my life and that is right on. Paros right actually next to the dock so it looks crappy like you know. It's called steakhouse and you're like well. Nothing like an Americanized. Your English name here in Greece. Yeah it just looks like a tourist trap and they have the best year. I've ever had steakhouse era. Definitely okay the next card says most beautiful sites. I mean we're in Greece. This is almost impossible to pick. I'm going I think to give two examples. But they're tied in by a common theme L. Cam and this is just getting a motorbike and just exploring either or censoring but specifically century and he so we took a motorbike all the way out to which is where the really famous awesome hotels that overlook. The CALDARA are and we didn't stay there. Yeah we didn't have the money and it was all booked up but we took motorbike ride along basically the whole coast of the island up to it and then back right after sunset so low on gas and we decided to take the route. That was basically. No one was on this route from where our guest hotel. We were in a remote areas area on the on the opposite side of the died and we took this road to get to the city of and I don't think we passed another car and the the fuel tank was like on. Md and. I was so freaked out that we were GONNA run out of gas but it was crazy pretty and there was no one around and then we had to go back and do it at after sunset which is a little more harrowing because it was pretty dark but that and then the motorbike ride down to the Red Beach. That was beautiful. I would also second the just. The cliffs in our so stunning. It's a reason that it's so photographed with beautiful striking hotels along the cliffs there and the way walls with the blue windmills. It's just it's absolutely incredible and then I would also say that the view from Hotels Cynthia was just the you could see the sunset and you watched it from the deck in the Infinity Pool. I mean that was. That was epic epic. And that's on Paros and hotel senator. The reason we love it so much absolutely gorgeous. Great Food Super Nice people. You Know Infinity Pool. That overlooks the ocean. All the all the stuff that you want in Greece but very reasonably priced So you know you go to Santini and you try to stay in places are couple three hundred five hundred seven hundred dollars a night. You know you can st- I don't remember the exact price in hotels and we were a little off season but you could stay there for a fraction of what you would pay for those places in century on right next card best memory. I'm GonNa let you go first as I think of this one. My best memory is this. The we stayed at Hotel Sania for the first part of our trip in on the islands and it was beautiful but I was just thinking because we didn't we didn't leave the resort. I think for a day or two because travel is still recovering from being sick and we're tired from all the travel done before that so it was like I mean Greece's cool but is it really as amazing as people thought. Well if you just stay at your hotel I kind of think. Maybe it wouldn't be but my best memories the first day that we got a motorbike and we just kind of looked up all of the best beaches around Paros and we drove to each one and they vary depending on where you were on the island of some being like rocky some being the softest sand I've ever encountered on this remote beach in Paros. There was not another person actually think there was one or two other people on that beach but I mean it was a big beach and there was like a little church on one side. It was just so beautiful so just motorbiking around that island for the first time in kind of seeing more than you see. Just from staying in a hotel was my best memory. Yeah I would agree that that is mine as well. It's the thing that stands out the most because like you mentioned we'd come. I think we're both on a high coming from Georgia. Even though that was my pick of I want to go to the country. Georgios awesome and we got to Greece and it was relaxing. But we kinda thought yeah. What's all the hype about? This is a nice hotel. Beaches are okay until we got out and basically I mean let our hair down like legitimately I had longer hair then. It was nice. We got out. That was the era of the top. Not Beginnings of the top night. You were like growing. Yeah we actually were. We wear helmets but you know got out on the motorbike and just started exploring and I think it was as you mentioned day three and that that day we went out all day and I remember actually coming back to the place we were staying Swede switched hotels that night and on the ride back as the sun was setting. Just saying okay. We've seen like we now know what it's like to be on a Greek island. We know why so many people love it. The next card is kind of on a similar vein and its best activity. Heather came up with these. I best activity. I mean it doesn't have to be the best memory. Could be different things so I'm going to throw out a different one than what we just talked about. And that was hiking to the Red Sand beach because that was an activity. It wasn't necessarily strenuous. But you had we motor bikes to the beach and then you literally have to go around these cliffs to get to the Red Sand beach and there was another activity. That only you did that. I don't know why wouldn't be your best activity. Oh Okay I do remember you. Jog My memory right that this could happen. We went down to. I can't remember the name of the area it was it was in you. Get up to the top where it is and then you either walk or motorbike down basically down. Yeah down the cliff to the sea and I don't know how we knew it was there. Maybe I'd read it. That there was on censoring Dave. Maybe Dave Dot com website incredible website. They now have information online. But I think I mean my guess is he started with Santa Reading Hence the name. The Guy knows everything about Santini so we made it down this cliff and then you have to walk through these restaurants along this cliff edge. You know right by the water out to these rock outcroppings people swimming there you know. It's kind of like a little inlet area. There's people swimming and then you can swim across the inlet to where all these people were climbing up this huge rock facing jumping off and I remember thinking all right. I'm going to do it and heather. Heather didn't decided not to do it but it was like I. The climbing up was way scared. Because it's a slippery rock face so I swam out. I saw other people doing Mike. All right. Well I'm not going to get out of here. Yeah I climbed all the way up and everyone would go and look over the edge and then not wanNA jump and so. I thought well I'm not even going to bother if I go and like pure over the edge. I'm not going to want to jump either. So there was a few people up at the top that were waiting. I don't know should I do it and I said all right. Just get out of my way. I'm just going to run and jump so I just the first time I just literally ran and jumped off. I didn't even want to know how far what it looked. Like from the top and after you did it once it was fine. I went back up by five or six times. It was awesome. But yes when you then peered over the edge. The water was so clear. You could see all these huge rocks underneath. And you're thinking I'm Gonna I'm GonNa hit these rocks because the water was so clear. I mean the rocks are probably twenty thirty feet deep but they looked from upright at high around. I wouldn't have been the first. I see other people doing it. I certainly wouldn't be the first one to say. Oh No I'm sure they're pretty deep. But you know you watch other people jumping and they're leaning with Iraq so and then come close to hitting so yeah that was. That was awesome. We've got an awesome picture of me. Like trying to pop. Spread out arms and legs It it's not as long drop as you think because I definitely like had my arms and legs out when I hit the water and heard a little bit but that was an awesome team of anybody. Yeah that's right. The beach below oil in Santa. And so our you still questioning my card themes activity best memory. Thank you for reminding me see. This is why we're doing this this. I wouldn't have a bad memory. I wouldn't have remembered on my own. We're down to the last card lasker. Most surprising thing go ahead. Well I have to think of one I mean the most I okay so. My most surprising thing was again data. It took US three days basically to get out and start exploring paros again. I was sick for in Athens. And we had to take the ferry to paros so wasn't feeling a one hundred percent but I guess I was most surprised that we had two days that we thought is Greece. Really that cool because looking back on it obviously after having. I think we spent a week and a half their total almost two weeks. So you know then we had. Let's say eight to ten days of awesome times so it's surprising to me that the first two or three we thought. Yeah this is just okay. I don't think we're going to love it as much as most people do. Yeah I have to say that. That's what I was thinking as well because yeah when we first got there it was kind of just like well. I mean the view from hotel well-being beautiful. You know it was just of some other mountains in the sea and it was an at the beach and the closest beach to hotel. Sania was not the most beautiful beach I'd ever seen so I was kind of like well. What are people always talking about with Greece? Like if you just stayed at this hotel and you didn't leave. Would you really see the most? I mean you wouldn't see the most beautiful thing so for us. It was really strange to do that because usually we hit the ground running but Greece was part of a two month trip where we had already been to Norway for two weeks. We already went to Georgia for two weeks. We were in Greece and then we were heading to the UK so we were just kind of chilling for the first couple of days which was amazing but we almost sat there. We were like feeling a little guilty. We were just relaxing and not adventuring and then as soon as we did. We were like okay. Well we're GONNA adventure to this other beach and just lay on the speech and relax there. So yeah it's just a point to make that it's always good to get out and explore because you'll just see things that are different and probably more beautiful than not always more beautiful but just different in beautiful way to what hotel you're staying. What's what's crazy to me is that we were on. Paro since answering two of the just two random islands I mean saying three and he's really well known in par says the first stop of the ferry so it's not like we're off the beaten path much but there are so many other islands of Greece so too. It's it's wild in my mind that we export both of those pretty heavily with a motorbike. They're they're not that big so we got to see most of the most of the areas of both islands. Although we certainly didn't export every nook and cranny for example. There's probably seven other places to cliff dive in Santa Rini that we didn't see but then to think let's Times at by fifty or a hundred and all these other islands of Greece and some that are even more remote like way bigger like going to Mykonos or you're or creepy roads. I think I would love to go back there. I mean the Mediterranean is just my favorite place in the whole world. I think every island we go to there. I just love heartbeat heartbeat. So you guys go a little bit of travel. Wanderlust in your ears or in your eyes if you're watching on TV. Thank you guys These are quarantine. Diaries sessions are going to be putting out a few. A weak little bit shorter form than what you're used to. If you listen to the podcast and we are going to be highlighting destinations. Just like we did where we'll be answering the same questions for each destination but we are also going to be doing some other shows as well so if you have suggestions on things that you want to hear the reason we're doing this nations a lot of people said we want more destinations because everyone's craving like I want to get out. I want to travel to hear more. So if you have other suggestions on questions were themes or topics that you want. Let us know on Instagram at extra pack of peanuts we happy to do it again. We're doing it raw unedited sitting down with the mics hidden play and going so. Thank you guys for this quarantine. Diaries episode I guess technically on TV. This is episode to but on the PODCAST. It's episode one somehow. We lost the audio of episode one. Yes so everyone keep listening. We'll keep pumping them out. Stay safe and thank you. Guys for support is always.

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Tech is helping house cleaners get benefits

Marketplace Tech with Molly Wood

06:14 min | 1 year ago

Tech is helping house cleaners get benefits

"This. Marketplace podcast is brought to you by the university of Florida Warrington college of business transform your future with an MBA from one of America's top ten universities. Learn more at Warrington dot ufl dot EDU slash MBA in order to support the show. We need the help of some great advertisers in order to find great advertisers. We need to know a little bit more about you. So please go to pod survey dot com slash tech report. And take a quick anonymous survey that will help us get to know, you a little better that way, we can show advertisers. Just how great our listeners are. Plus once you've completed the survey you can choose to enter for a chance to win one hundred dollars Amazon gift card, terms and conditions apply. Again, that's pod survey dot com slash tech report. Thanks for your help. You're supposed to tip your house cleaner write about kicking into their disability insurance from American public media. This is marketplace tech demystifying the digital economy on jed Kim in for. Molly would. Some might consider domestic employees the original gig workers. There are a lot of similarities like intermittent income, and no real safety net is a problem that affects millions of workers like nannies caregivers and housecleaners the national domestic workers Lance is trying to change this. There's something it calls its innovation arm and DWA labs. It's bringing financial tech to domestic workers. It's new platform called Leah directs digital payments towards benefits for housecleaners. Marketplace's Lila Goldstein talked with one user about the platform, alleviate Mahia is a house cleaner in Brooklyn. Her son David is in the third grade and has a lot of school trips in always always he won. I can go with him. It used to be saying, yes, meant losing income. But last year, she went with her son's class to the prospect park zoo and still got paid thanks to a platform called Leah. It helps gig workers like her earned benefits. Like paid time off she pulls up the website on her phone Huma Boya plataforma. The leeann is the Mittel me contra Sania, she logs in chooses the worker option and sees a total dollar amount. It's money clients have contributed specifically for benefits clients select the client option find their house cleaners account and choose whether to give the platform recommends five dollars per cleaning this money can only be used for benefits offered by Leah then go toward or contracts. Didn't they eat thing goals will they be their Mahy is taken out life insurance and accident insurance. She also took to pay days off. Here's how bad stun when a worker reaches one hundred twenty dollars on a Lia. They can trade it in for a prepaid visa card like a lot of financial tech tools. Elliott automates something that can be complicated for workers to do on their own longtime workers advocate Pollock Shah helped develop the Elliott platform. What technology is really doing is in neighboring all. All of these multiple parties coordinating them taking all this transactions. Putting it all in one place, and allowing for the worker to be able to draw down those benefits, and it gives clients a more formal way to contribute to benefits Mahia is already comfortable communicating virtually she rarely sees her clients. She just text them notamment them excluding this. They huddle Yemi Leoneto soda. She gets a key. And they leave her money on the table at first Mahia was a bit embarrassed to leave fliers inviting her clients to use a Leah. But then she thought about all the other types of workers who get benefits oughta Mattingly. You don't think benefits you one the toll moon, though, that I don't know if you've seen us, they a whole ISM benefits us. She thought why not me, but you'll notice way at the net. The Goldstein brought us that story alita currently doesn't offer some really important benefits. No health insurance, no retirement plan. But as the gig economy grows. More workers will be looking for alternative ways to get the benefits. They need. And now for some related links. You may remember that Uber recently settled with drivers in California and Massachusetts for twenty million dollars. The lawsuit raises the question of whether drivers are fully employed as or just contractors the agreement won't end that debate. But it does that an average of about twenty two hundred dollars per driver. In those states NBC reports that the settlement amount is pretty favorable for Uber, which is trying to sign up. Its image ahead of an IPO. Uber has kept the number of lawsuits from drivers down by making it the default that legal disputes, go through arbitration, beware. The wrath of the rideshare driver though. More than twelve thousand have opted to go through arbitration now Hoover foots, the fifteen hundred dollars filing fee, for such cases and Gizmodo calculates that comes to about nineteen million dollars in fees for Uber. There've been several other settlements for the company, but none that would seem to break the Bank after all we're is expecting to be valued at one hundred twenty billion dollars. I'm jed Kim. And that's marketplace tech. This is a PM. Patrick in Santa Cruz. California wrote to us to say marketplace is an essential element in his life. And that we're helping make him smarter through high quality thought provoking and informative journalism to join Patrick and supporting what we do. Please donate online today at marketplace dot org. Thanks to Patrick and all the marketplace. Investors who make our work possible. This marketplace by cast is brought to you by brother investment tank printers. 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Covering COVID-19: A Follow-up Conversation with Desiree Rios and Sarah Blesener

B&H Photography Podcast

59:21 min | 2 months ago

Covering COVID-19: A Follow-up Conversation with Desiree Rios and Sarah Blesener

"You're listening to the beach. Photography podcast for over forty years being h has been the professional source for photography video audio and more for your favorite gear news and reviews visit us dot com or download the beach app to your iphone or android device. Now here's your host. Alan white's greetings and welcome to the h. Photography podcast today. We have being joined by photo. Journalist tizzy rios and sierra blessing. Her now as you might recall does your e and sarah with his back in march talk about they were covering the corona virus outbreak here in new york city. These conversations were held is the city was just entering the beginning stages of a quarantine and hospitalizations. We're going through the roof. And there's a lot of fear uncertainty here in new york city in all over the place. We discussed the earliest signs and safety precautions and the stories. They hope to cover today. We're gonna do a follow up to see how things have played at each of them during this harrowing but exciting time to be a photo journalist. First up is this. This is a mexican american photojournalist and documentary photographer from fort worth texas. She's currently based in new york working to the new york times. Welcome back how you've been doing. I think Yeah definitely a crazy periods. Still going through it Thank you for having me back. John annoy we've spoken a lot about that show since then because again. We're all right in the middle of the whole place. We've seen how it's played out. And i think john has maybe seen even more because he lives in manhattan knee. I'm kinda outskirts in the suburbs. It's reality so when we first spoke back in march you occurring the story for about a month and you commented. That is an increasing concern. You seeing the streets uber following stories about people changing not only they can use in their routines with the truth was the real heart stories. Were just starting to really come out and be a parent how things change in terms of the kind of assignments you getting a since spoke eight months ago. Yeah so my workflow. Assignments definitely changed after we last spoke As i mentioned during that time. I had only done a handful of assignments where i was just starting to see how people were beginning to change their commutes taking more precautions. A but since then. I covered a lot of daily in breaking coverage Mostly in the bronx where i'm based documenting. How communities individuals in businesses were impacted by the virus. And what we saw was how. This virus definitely reflected the long standing persistent economic inequalities and disparities in access to healthcare food education. So it was important for me to do what. I could provide information to those who were heavily. Impacted for example. I was out on assignment doing daily coverage when i wanted to photograph one of the first walking testing centers. More sania in the bronx provide that information to local residents During my coverage back. Then you know i was talking to residents. They don't realize that this was opening. So they knew we had in testing centers but as we know not everyone in new york city owns or has access to vehicles so this was particularly important for me to cover And yeah and because you know what we discussed last time to like we. Journalists weren't provided a lot of information when we went out and covered these daily assignments So we sorta had to seek out these stories as we were going so i tried to keep up with the updates provided by the governor and the mayor to know what the latest news in stories might be. I remember when we first spoke back. In march of the general consensus was again. We really didn't know the extent a size of this thing that was about to common clobber us. And you know the the people who are giving you the assignments kinda like guessing about where the stories might be and you will also kind of had to figure out where things were and sources. I would imagine that since. Then you're will you get your information that you depend on to be able to follow up on your stories and the sources that you follow up on people that you spew to has become much more focused as well even leading up to the summer really. I was doing a lot of daily coverage where things were still developing So it was. It was like you know. Try to go out and get what you can tell us what you're seeing One thing that i definitely you know realize like not that the reporters weren't working on the field but we were actually there. We were witnessing things so it's like we had to sort of give that information back. Which is why we were doing a little bit reporting to information is just you know a lot more you know. We know exactly who were talking to. Why we're talking to them. You know we're able to Have a little bit more direction with the assignments now definitely. He slept a scramble for masks in. And other and things of that sort or are or you're the people giving you these simon today also supplying this to you now. Yeah so the great thing is i know i like whoo stocked on your own regardless but yeah so i just thought it was. It's almost a little like wow like shocking to hear back a previous podcast. Where i was like. Yeah i haven't but you know there's a shortage and i think i was trying to be. You know not only like wanting to make sure like. I wasn't adding to that shortage where like health workers weren't given that you know supply but also it was really hard to find in. It wasn't until like relatives in texas actually sent me stuff That i was able to really stock up. But i felt like it was like days after that the has had aired. Or you know. Like i was a part of this podcast. Like editors like the ones that i had been working really closely with. Were like hey we just got peavy eased than me your address. They definitely made sure we were stocked up Also like you know. I worked with different publications at that time to were. They were even providing training a session. So we understood. You know what we could do to better protect ourselves. We were out working in the field but definitely safety precautions. Deflect got way better And we were provided as much as we could you know I was also stocking up on my own to in case. That shortage was to happen again. From the publications that we are working with but Yeah definitely again. You're in the community. You seeing what real people dealing with real real real problems and A year ago. Homeschooling something that very very few people had it deal with a for very very specific reasons. Now it's something that we are all dealing with at least those of us who have children from the families that you are interacting how both of these families are the average family dealing with now balancing work and home schooling because a year ago you send your kids off to school. Went to work most people not most people. Now it's a whole different ballgame are people seem to be figuring out how to jeff the proper balance i mean i think some people have the have been. I mean even in their words. I'm fortunate enough that i'm able to work from home right now. And you know. I'm able to sort of keep an eye on my child as they're doing their school lessons and be more attentive to them whereas there's other families who don't have that abilities so they you know when schools did open up. They were know their their children had to go back to school. It's still a balanced. I think you know. Even though that some of the classes are open to in person learning they still you know like they still have to sign on some times remotely or they're half in class half online so Yeah i i mean. I think it's still like families are still trying to figure it out and again. I think it's very situational. Based on what. That family needs are and budwood just in defense of the of the people of the teachings. Oh my oldest son is vice principal in a school of a high school and I understand what they're going through to try to make this thing work as hard as it is for the for parents okay. Those who teach our children have really been having to jump through hoops that they were never trained to do before again. There's no there's no. Roadmap is no narrative this thing that was set out so i think it's been a challenge for teachers and for Those who have to work and have kids in school anyway. Jonah militia takeover. Well it sounds desert-like least in the early months there was you're developing some solidarity with the people you were. You were photographing Couple of questions were you at all invited into people's homes. Did you do any any shooting in inside people's homes or in small businesses And and how did you feel about that. And what was the reaction from the people and kind of follow up on that well. Let's just answer that question. I have so no. During that time i was not indoors at all in that was very Direct instructions from our editors were like do not go inside for any circumstances. If for whatever reason we were indoors that was usually talked about before and you know. An additional sort of training was given You know just to make sure that we were well equipped to go indoors I mean they're lining the trainings would be an online training. You would you would meet with someone that the newspaper had had arranged to speak with you about safety precautions. Is that way. Yeah yeah exactly. So we all joined on either local may or zoom meeting and where we spoke to different professionals who had no knowledge about this and giving us the type of a safety training that we would need was the safety training something that we would all understand and we're very used to now. Just stay stay distant. Where your mask wear gloves or was there anything deeper than that Yeah i mean. I think it was. I mean it was definitely a telling us type of masks aware Just i guess the Different levels of risk so I remember you know we were wearing oilcloth mass or a medical mask or non surgical masks out in the street and stuff like that as to like okay well when you are indoors If those like in ninety five's on There were some additional things. Especially that i started doing with my own. Safety precautions for example I sort of had this contaminated zone in my apartment where it's like after an assignment I would be sure to sort of layered up a lot during that time. So that i sort of as soon as i got into my apartment i had a trash bag that was hanging on the doorknob where i would just like layer off everything and throw it immediately in that trash bag and i sort of knew like okay. I needed to wash this the next day or the day of depending on you know If i had to file immediately. When i got home and you know had all my gear in one corner as well so it's just sort of like i had to set aside that stuff that i knew i had to disinfect right away but typically if i had a lot of time or if i had already filed i would go immediately in shower. Comeback disinfect. everything you know. Make sure to wash up after that too so it was just a whole different process. During that time. That was some great advice that i received from those professionals where it's just like how did stay extra safe during that time. Not only for myself but for the people like my boyfriend who i live with. I didn't want to get him sick during that time. So just yeah just extra precaution in kind of like their experience when they worked on a gear handle it. Did you gear suffered all did you have to use using alcohol on your gear all the time and the issues there. Yeah i was. I was I used a lot of alcohol. Wipes gear definitely. Tried to avoid. I think the i. I might try to use clorox wipes on my phone and saw that may screen was really messing up. Knows like got that wrong. But yes i lot of alcohol wipes on my gear. It didn't i mean luckily my camera. My phone was okay But yeah lysol white or lysol sprayed might mac bac. You know even the jacket. I was wearing a just reeked of lysol. I couldn't smell off of it. I think it's still. Did you work every day. Or if you didn't have assignments where you self assign and going out or or did you take breaks clear head and you know how that works. So my workflow definitely increased. After we last spoke. Like i said. I think i only covered a handful of assignments at that time in after that it was probably every other day i was out. There are definitely not every single day but It was quite a lot. Were you was more stressful than normal or was it kind of exciting given that you know we were such an important moment. And and historically and least in terms of news there was always something going on Did did you feel kind of i. Don't i don't know if it's a thrilled is the right word. But was it What were your emotions at that time. I i definitely think it was exciting to be part of the photojournalist who were going out there covering this moment Feeling like i was trying to do what i could to provide information to the public But after a while like. I think anyone could agree. It was very oaths emotionally and physically draining our workflow change completely as you know we were filing from our cars from our hot spots You know everything was closed at that time. So it's not like you could go to a cafe. We had to pack lunch. Like i packs launches which i was even like paranoid eating. My car was like. I don't wanna touch anything. We had hand sanitizer but It was still like you know there was a lot of paranoia too at that time where it's just like you just don't want to get sick. You don't wanna get the people you're interacting with sick anyone around you get sick are all. Yeah so i mean in new york. No nobody that i know personally had gotten sick But you know there was a time where the confirmed cases were declining. Hospitalizations were declining. But i'm originally from texas so During that time. The outbreak happened especially in my hometown in fort worth so a lot of family members. Were getting sick at that time where you know i feel like i was just coming out of cocaine filling not normal but you know like i was feeling okay. I was not as stressed out. And then all of a sudden that spike happened worms. Getting phone calls even my Seventy five year old grandparent's were getting sick. And i think your mind immediately goes to the worst and so it was just it was it was like this emotional turmoil during this time So it was. It was definitely like physically mentally draining after awhile. Moods the relationship with other photographers were were people bonding and was there. Lasala garrity between everybody or was it. Just kinda haywar on her own flight. This the best we can definitely. I think that's why i said we allow earlier. Definitely relied on a lot of my colleagues for information Also just checking in like. How're you doing in that. That's where that sollidarity came in. Because i think at one point where all sorts of feeling the same thing in getting through it together. Did you notice your images change at all during this time and not just reporting specifically to the the assignment you were given but you know kind of your way of of shooting. Did they get more intimate. Did you did you find People you wanted to follow and stick with their stories or were you just kind of waiting to hear from your editor so shortly. I think it's still something. I'm struggling with our only photographing outdoors. Unless given you know that access inside now that we're definitely more educated on Taking care of ourselves but That's usually worked out with editor but Trying to find that intimacy while photographing someone still sixty or more away is definitely a challenge for me but i think you know trying to find ways to get that really nice lighting and trying to get the humanity behind the issue Definitely have been working on and I would say even my daily coverage just I think what was important for me. It should be educated on the issues. Like i said the updates that we were getting so that i knew exactly what to look for so luckily like these images that are taking daily were always accompanied by something that was happening Currently in new york city and can you. Can you remember any of the any of the highlights or not highly any of the stories. That really stood out. I stood out to you as you. Let's win when you got that assignment. You're like okay. This is something. I really can dig into it and go for. Yes so i mean. I cut like luckily i was able to cover. E- cover a variety of issues During that time you know like i was able to take a really nice intimate portrait of this woman who was undocumented She was able to receive the stimulus check in kind of how her situation was. At that time. I think her husband had been laid off from work as well so it was sort of an anonymous portrait. But just that moment where she's holding her daughter I think that image released sticks out for me. Also you know another time like we wanted to see what memorial day. Weekend like You know so big here in the city especially or usually celebrating and stuff. But it's like what is that look like during the pandemic end. I went to a church off. Arthur avenue in the bronx and i photographed. This man The church was open for open prayer. But it had sanctioned off a lot of the pews and Caution tape everywhere and he just. You know down started praying. I took that image. I think that is one of my favorite images during this whole time. Not only like it's just the experience i had. I'm not very religious now But that was definitely part of my upbringing. Anything after to accept photo. I sat back and i just really reflected on what we had gone through in the past few months and it was a very surreal moment for me in. Yeah i mean. I definitely i love. That photo was lack of work. Ever an issue. I mean it sounds like it wasn't his unlike been constantly on the go but was there any downtime. There definitely was. I think at when like i said the cases sort of declined There is definitely a period. Where i probably went a few weeks without an assignment or maybe a couple of weeks so that was a little bit. I mean i think as a freelancer. You're always like wait. What's going on you know especially after working so frequently. You're just like what's happening. But i think at that point new york city it was just like let's just take ause. The metro section was like we're just trying to evaluate. You know like the stories now end though you know. It's always concerning if you don't get work right away I think that break was definitely needed especially for me. Were you able to vacation or get out of the city. All no i mean. This is where i really liked laid out in front of my couch and just like you know like i do. Oh okay good good good good and and maybe getting back to what you started out with talking about this. You know the discrepancies. That we've we've come to see in terms of service and and you know how basically how poor people have been hit harder by the virus Did you find ways to incorporate that into your work or was that just kind of always there in front of you definitely. I mean what we learned too. Is that The coronavirus was killing black and latte nex people in new york city at twice the rate So that definitely like when. I was out in photographing these lines at the walk Testing centers you know. I would speak to people who had numerous family members or friends who had been impacted so That was important. You know just trying to figure out which communities have been hit hard in Wanting to make sure to get that sort of visuals for these stories that were coming out. Can you think of an example of how you did that how you were able to visually show the impact. Hella was stronger or harder. Impact on the black and latinx next community. Yeah so i mean. Those were where i had sort of specific assignments like covering people who had lost family members so it was portuguese. Usually them holding a photo of a family member who had been lost on. Also just you know small business owners to in these communities in the bronx And like as i mean the bronx is so diverse that even photographing a line of people waiting at a walk testing center. You know our majority of black and latinx ex people so That's why i mean. Definitely i didn't seek out like war i mean i guess i'm saying like those. Were more specific assignments where i was able to speak to family members in stuff in you know where they experience or were. They spoke about their experiences of you know having to still work during this time. A lot of them were essential workers People working at the grocery store so still commuting on the subway whereas a photographed previous to this people were able to financially afford changing up their commutes by Taking uber's lifts and other transportation methods were these people that i was speaking to or taking portrait's of Were able to do that. And that's why you know they were Did you all during this time. Now so Luckily i drove my car from texas. When i moved back from new york you know a lot of people said that was crazy. But i think it definitely helped during this time In the same by the way for whatever that's worth you. I would have driven smart move. Yeah i definitely a definitely helped. I think it definitely. But my editors at ease too. Knowing that i wasn't constantly taking transportation I know some colleagues of mine who even started renting cars just to be safe in again is not necessarily just for ourselves. We were speaking to people out in the public so we wanted to do as much as we could to make sure that we weren't getting anyone that we were speaking to sick and his own story that you really wanted to cover but but didn't do or you still haven't or other their stories at that you still want to get into them and haven't been able to him. I think it was I mean there was a point where i think a lot of photojournalist kinda wanted to see what was happening inside of the hospitals like at that time we were only given access you know. We're photographing from outside I think during that time. I kind of wanted to see what was happening seeing who was personally impacted by the virus I'm really grateful for the assignments that i had had with covering you know what the public was going through and being able to for them to share their insight with me what they were experiencing in who was impacted So i wouldn't say. I mean i definitely covered a lot of different topics in issues within the virus So i can't say that. I regret anything or kind of wish. I had pursued something a little bit more. It was interesting because not only was. I learning how to cover this virus in this sort of topic. we were all very new to this process. But i was also very. I'm still fairly new freelancing to so they just alive information given to me at the same time when i was learning how as i was going So yeah mean definitely an experience by fire for sure. That's exactly what i was gonna say. And if anything you know that's a great way getting into it just be thrown right into it and you know you have to say okay is it. What are you gonna do. You put up a shot up time And i it's a good challenge. Actually unfortunately the situation is terrible but the challenge is great. Did you cover any other stories during this time. I mean did kind of trying to balance things out so that you weren't You know being overwhelmed con-constantly by the same the same story so with the new york times. I definitely covered a lot. Just corona virus related stories. At during this time. I began working with a wall street journal in one of my first assignments ought to photograph a Internship program at the woodlands aired cemetery here in the bronx so that was a little bit uplifting. Seemed like these students talk. We were innocent. Military lake like these students were so passionate about learning. How the you know what the upkeep is like and they were really excited going into this word and of course you know this was all outdoors but we all wore masks at this time so i felt very safe doing this but that was definitely uplifting seeing them so excited and all the bodies at least six feet away so what. The social distancing is not an issue. It's perfect well. I never thought of it that way. But there's a connection. I guess i guess but in general that really has been all alcove it all the time since since march. Yeah i mean since then. There are some other assignments That have popped up. But i think generally maybe they know that. That's where i'm still at like the things that i wanna cover if you had your choice of assignments right now just to a total change of pace from where you are okay. What would you know prior to this. I went home pretty frequently. Where i was doing a lot of personal work. Documenting my family traditions Sort of our relationship especially the women in my family in since then since the virus. I haven't been home sense in receiving news about how they're doing stuff I think once things you know. Hopefully whenever that may be. I would love to go back home in sort of focus on that. There was a period when the outbreak had happened in texas. Where i was like. Should i just though home. Do i need to be documenting this right now but i think it was still you know i was very fearful. I didn't want to get my family. Six in the process of traveling down there You know they were also getting sick at that time so search. It had to be put on the backburner but yeah. I would definitely love to go back home. Get some personal stories. Happening again And gm commented used hand I know i find myself also know stealing away a few times a week just to get a little bit of time to shoot stuff that i always wanted to as just a diversion from everything. We're dealing with here right now. And i think that's one of the things that's kinda good if you're a professional photographer to again get into a personal project and even if you're not a professional just take your camera out and go take pictures of something just to get your head with. Things is something therapeutic about On on on all levels anyway Disarray it's great. Speaking to again. And again i i hope we can have you back on the show again to talk about how all of this wound down and how you moving on to a new challenges and we all live and be well for that in the meantime if people wanna follow the work that you've been doing where where are some of the sites they can go to So i have my personal website. It's desert rose dot com In my instagram at dd rios typically. I like to use a lot instagram stories. So you can look at my latest work on their The those two sites. That's great again. Keep up the good work these safe out there again. We look forward to having you back on. Follow up and see how things are going on. Thank you so much. Thank you me okay. We are gonna take a break. We come back. We're going to be joined by sierra. Blessing her stay tuned. We hope you're enjoying this edition of the h photography. Podcast the best way to support the show is by subscribing on apple. Podcasts google podcasts. Spotify or wherever you get your podcasts for links to gear and more information on today's guests check out the show notes and your podcast app or visit our homepage on the beach explorer website and joined the h. photography podcast facebook group. And now back to the show. Okay we are back. Sarah bless ner is a photo journalist and documentarian who's been covering stories for the new york times and wall street journal series a recipient of the alexia foundation grant and as a catch light and eugene smith fellow. Her two thousand nineteen project beckon us from home received the first place prize in the long term project. Category of world press photo. And she's currently working on stories. Funded by a grant from national geographic and a commission from the international center of photography. Sarah nice to have you back again. Thanks sensory year his great. Let's start it a long term project. you working because you mentioned back in march that you very interested in focusing your energies on one particular project has at coming along. Yeah i mean it was great timing. Let me start class time in march as you mentioned that was feeling really overwhelmed with you know discovering a lot of daily news covering a lot of daily stories normally like to focus more on longer projects so since we spoke last. I did the commission as you mentioned from the international center photography and the commission was very open ended it funded five alumni to photograph a project of their choice. It could be basically anything decade from the very daunting thing when they just leave it open. But you'll lucky that you actually have something to focus on. I mean at the time. I was very overwhelmed. I didn't really know. I for the crossing on the street to photographing hospitals. I i wasn't really sure but it was great timing to figure out something a bit more long form and more intimate as we discussed again in march. Did you have to apply for that commission. Did they come to you. How did that work no they. They just reach out to me also to four other alumni. I didn't have to apply for that. Okay yeah so I hadn't. I didn't have any idea at the time When they reached out hover. i'd been wanting to do something a bit. More personal and locally focused ends. I happen to live with an eight year old woman. Her name is blanche romi in. I live in the upstairs in tubes in the basement. And i was thinking after i got an email. That enough is ep. I decided that it might be interesting. Or worthwhile. To talk to blanche. And to see if i could photograph her and her experience You know maybe having a more personal look at how a pandemic like this effect someone who's elderly at risk What isolation looks like what her relationships look like. Basically you know how something like. This really affects her. Daily life I wasn't sure if it were safety. Wise I live with her so we can photograph and talk to the stairs. But i was really nervous to actually make pictures of someone who was eight years old during the pandemic. but that was my initial idea and I began photographing with her. Been doing announce the past six months and it kind of turned into more this long reform project not just of of her and her husband but it turns also to look towards the neighborhood. I live right next to a senior citizen center. And i live in quite an old neighborhood. Bushwick and we kind of open. The project up together to include more senior citizens And also include a look at how the communities trying to help out other people who are isolated and the kinds of you know more grass root in local organizations that had been really stepping up during these times. So that's how it all started. It's it's been such an incredible experience. I would imagine that a dealing with seniors or has been specially enlightening I know that this past year my mom who at ninety six in half a with twelve stents in a heart covid nineteen got her and took her down. It took that bug to get my mom. She's his stubborn miami by her anyway but she was in assisted living for the past two years and when this epidemic started to hit it was interesting to her about it she was already thinking into dementia and was like kind of fifty fifty between being here and not being here and trying to and watching her experience it and trying to make sensitive and at times. She got time. What's going on. Why's everyone mask. And everything else. And i got to see a lot of other people around who were in various stages of old age and it's it really brings a very very interesting and it kind of frightening to the whole thing where you realize that. It's hard for us. Who theoretically we have all of our senses in our mind and tack to try to deal with this and make sense of it but when you do with people who already advanced in age eighty plus whatever things happening. It's interesting to see how they process based on decades of this other normalcy. And now this and you know any thoughts about that. Yeah i mean you you brought up a live really important points Luckily blanche drumming the woman. I've been photographing. She's incredibly healthy The first thing we we started talking about it's just you know the ways in which we get our information. I mean she doesn't have an iphone. Just have internet i she. She receives the daily news in that. But i think you know her idea of what's happening is is part was pretty limited and she was wearing mask in the beginning she was kind of you know still going around the neighborhood acting like normal. I was terrified for her. You know eventually. She started wearing a mask and started delivering them to the other seniors. That i think this information is much more limited especially when you're living alone in your living away from you know things that we all take for granted like social media and just having the news constantly at our fingertips so i think the threat of it all didn't seem as real until what started happening in new york of course is just hearing sirens twenty four seven in seeing amazon your block and from that point on i think she started to realize that it was more serious But yeah in terms of what you're saying. I think this is a committee that has been isolated for a very long time and the pandemic didn't necessarily create more isolation. i think if anything it just emphasized the isolation that already exists. And what i learned from this experience was just the people that i've been working with had already so many systems in place to help them stay connected and something like this pandemic just really this is the need to really i think strengthen those connections and have more community connections so i think what is it wasn't necessarily people not understanding. It was more committed already. Been at risk that already was used to taking care of themselves and being alone and they really kind of came through together. I saw a lot of community strength. Was it turned out to be more optimistic than i had expected. Which is great but seeping optimistic as good. You know what i saw happening in my my own community. It was that we have a local community garden Ends the neighbors all came together and they put together but they called elder boxes. Every every saturday they put together eighty boxes of food and they would go deliver it and leave it on the doorsteps of seniors. He couldn't leave their homes. So things like this. I found to be really inspiring and yeah people are very isolated but when communities come together and work together in reach out to people who are cut off and isolated from resources it makes literally you know someone's entire life difference so that was just very inspiring to see into photo graph. The part of how as you approach changed a during the pandemic as far as approaching your subjects and it used to be. We spoke about this earlier the last time we spoke about disarray a. Earlier in this episode that you know going into a somebody with a twenty four to seventy a zoom or wide angle lens. Getting close in intimate and personal. You can't really do that very effectively right now. Now everyone's shooting from a distance and with longer lenses. How have you adjusted to this. How have you adapted you find yourself working as comfortably as you used to be when you do what you need to do. A of the constraints body or you kind of pastoral at. I'm he asked me this. You know in in may or june. I feel like i would have had a different answer. It was hard Even when i was focusing on one character. I think like having a character different story. It's it's easier to feel more intimate to create more intimate images versus you. Know a big survey of story But even when. I was working in just land allowing you know obviously with all the safety constraints that were in place in. I was feeling really anxious that added to high was photographing having to stay faraway having to use zoom lens photographing through glass. Not really being able to get close in talks to people. It does change the way that you photograph That being said. I feel like it's just something that you can adopt you you have to I don't think it limits anymore The the way that. I thought it did last time we spoke. I was feeling much more pessimistic in march But i think it's challenging. It was a whole challenge judith. It was very challenging But you know with plans what we did was. We photographed a lot through glass. And i know that can get really cliche. Overused after a while but It does work in the zoom lens. Stop bothering me. After a while in what happened with us. The process just became a lot more collaborative Having to actually create times to meet discuss we want to do together. You can't be as fontaine's. I can't just hang around her living room waiting for that magical moment like i normally would do things become a little bit more plans out. And that's normally the enemy of documentary work. I think we always want that spontaneous magical moment that we didn't plan at all but that's just not possible. During these times you have to plan. You have to communicate and be on the same page with visuals and things have become a bit more collaborative and i think leaning into that rather than trying to fight. It must helpful. And what happened with blanche. Blanche's we just discussed the visuals together. We had to plan her. Scud what we had to plow what we are doing and it kind of took on this more theatrical feel and in the end. I really liked that. She's a very patrick person very charismatic. Very outgoing and it kind of matching the pictures Some of them. They're not staged but some of them you can tell she's acting a little bit like it's performance. She's wearing her hats Inside like it feels. It feels a little bit like we're doing this together and in the end. I really enjoyed that. That's not something. I normally would have done But i think know again like leaning into that feeling and letting it be what it is in this moment in allowing the project to take. That form was really helpful. So sir what was her initial reaction when i saw. What was your relationship prior to you. Know going to her with the idea of of shooting her. And what was her initial reaction so we had been. I mean we had a good relationship prior. We didn't speak so often She's a community activist very outgoing. And is kind of the life of our neighborhood. Says she has a persona in a very good personality. And i i really admired her But we never had a working relationship. I never photographed her I always wanted to because she is just really beautiful and nair unique and outgoing but it was never something we discussed. When i asked her. I mean she was thrilled from the beginning. I wanted to talk about safety constraints right away. And she didn't care. And i was a little bit worried about that but she was really open to the idea and me now. It's it's a good reason to like get dressed up and to get out and do like feel good about the day during these times. We're all just sitting watching the news feeling anxious so i think she from the beginning ticket as more like a cathartic experience and I had the same perspective. I thought it would be good for me to start photographing and working on personnel. And and not be sitting in my apartment combining She was really open to it and really onboard and from the beginning arranging for me to meet all my neighbors and to out in the community and She kind of holds the keys to my entire neighborhood so she was really on board from the beginning and was there any moment In the process. Where i don't know for lack of a better phrase. Things got real like where she kind of had this realization that this is a much more serious than than she had Had been thinking or was there a kind of a. I don't know how to say it but in terms of the narrative of the story that you created any kind of dramatic high point. I think the high point would would be just during the peak of the pandemic here in new york. I think when we started hearing ambulances in twenty four seven in the neighborhood she became obviously a lot more anxious We live next to a funeral as well. And i remember when like the bodies were constantly coming in and out and blanche calling me upstairs and being like yeah okay. This is getting really intense. And then she had a few friends pass away. And i remember talking to her about that when finally that reached her inner circle and okay. The reality is that i could get this any second. Even if i'm being really cautious and she called her grandkids and told them you know. Please bury me in my yellow hat by white dress like if anything happens. She made those phone calls just in case but what was incredible to me was that she was just so resilience in so positive in kind of not embrace this generation but she didn't let fear necessarily dictate her attitude which i found so inspiring because i. I'm hardly ever able to do that. So it real and watching your handle it was just you know inspiring. It also changed how she wanted the project to go like in the beginning it was all about blanche like a deep dive in her life in her basement in her community After things became a bit more dangerous like visibly dangerous around as she really talked to me and said like i want to be about the community. I don't want this to be just about me. Like i like that. Were photographing together. I like these pictures but if you could step back and also talk to the neighbors maybe like go to. The senior center makes them portrait's may go to the garden. If you could make this about me as part of the community or as one story of something bigger like that would make me feel better. We spoke in in martin. You hadn't started this project yet. How long after mid-march two did you start up. And would you say that it's wrapped up. I know that you've exhibited some of the images but is there is. There is an ongoing so the commission. I received the commission actually just a few weeks. After we spoke in march. I think it was in early april. And that's when. I really began photographing in the bulk of the photos that i took april may and after that commission i received a grant from the national geographic society who is supporting a lot of local journalists during this time that allowed me to do the second half which was photographing the community in the more i think local grassroots organizations that were helping out I think the bulk of this is done. It's it's so you know it hinges directly on kovic I can't really plan out the next portion until we see what happens in the world. Of course. I live in the community at something. I can photograph any day. That's the benefit of photographing working where you live I would like to continue it. I i just can't really plan anything out you know. It's all waiting to see what happens. There's so many variables. There's not much left to photograph in terms of what i can do safety once. I think you know. I can't go on anyone's homes yet. I can't go into senior center. I've kind of exhausted my my resources photographing from upside from afar So for now. I do think like i think i covered the foundation of it. However is something. I would love to continue in the future Depending on you know what happens if the pandemic in with the state of our world did either of you get tested blanche or tested to you know before you started this or at any point to just be. I was tested. I got tested. You know to make sure. Of course that she never was tested. Now who can now. She hasn't been sick. I mean yeah very grateful for that. And how did this. I mean the the commission and the grant kind of give you enough of an income that you didn't need to do assignments and that kind of the goal. I suppose it was but did assignments come up along the way. And and how did you kind of work. Those into the into your workflow. That's a good question Like we spoke in march. I was doing a lot of a lot of treaty. I think more intense or dangerous assignments at the beginning of the pandemic you know photographing hospitals and funeral homes. When i received the commission. I decided not to take anymore silence. Of course i couldn't go into a hospital and then come to my home and photograph with blanche. That's too risky. So i decided not to take any high risk assignments Yes the grand. Did help sustain me during these times work with various low in. It's hard for so many freelancers as we all know So that's something. I was incredibly grateful to have i. I did still take assignments I think it's important to stay connected to what's happening outside of your. You know your bubble. And i was really very much so in my bubble of in bushwick into my own community that you know if option became to get outside of that and see how different communities responding i think that would inform the work project Helpful so. I still miss taking assignments. Just not as much i would say. Maybe like half as much indefinitely not anything. That was higher risk anything. You'd like to mention or anything that was really that stood out to you. Assignment winds Other smallest in between they were more also you know daily coverage in nothing too crazy. I think i think it's been a hard time for so many people in especially for so many media outlets to create work that is Not impactful but that is a little bit deeper because of all the constraints you know not being able to go inside tom. More than twenty minutes. Serb with them for twenty minutes it does constrain what you can do and i think now people are getting more creative in terms of getting around that but i think especially the summer during the pandemic It was so hard for people to agree the work on stories Yeah and now with winter coming this is something we haven't experienced yet because when when covid nineteen first reared its ugly face kinda heading into spring which i think softened the blow of everything people were able to get out of their houses in like shake it off a little bit of leave flowers blooming and everything else coming into the summer as crazy as it was at least it was a time to be outdoors in a season of of of renewal in now coming into a time where it's getting dark early and starting this weekend and get even darker a earlier and Leaves off and we're gonna be indoors. It's gonna get cold and it's going to be. I think a very very different challenge both for people as as individuals and small groups but it was tigers. Because now we're not gonna have the option of of you know being outdoors and everything. It's gonna become more tight in indoors and darker but it literally is yen and how to work around. That will be a new challenge when you can't take someone on the street for an hour because it snowing or freezing i mean what. What do you do Yeah i think this is like the impending anxiety thoughts that we all have. That i think are all trying not to think about because its next big challenge in in some of the assignments that you did do in. Maybe it's hard to even think back because it just seems so long ago but can you talk about how the evolution of your your process might have changed in terms of safety protocols and even how you got around and and filing stories. Did you come up with kind of a plan that worked for you. Yeah eventually i found a system that worked in march A great time because it was you know catechin. We all had no idea what we're doing. I think food safety became more important for all of us know. In the beginning it was only where the ninety five mask you know when you had to. You know re conserve resources that you can and i think going forward that became not just a luxury but a necessity for any kind of assignment. So i think for me. I became more comfortable with having you know really strict boundaries of how long would be with someone i think i learned to communicate that really directly with other people Just to make sure that we're on the same page in that they know that respecting their safety And again. I think like we talked about this project. The collaborative aspect in the communication becomes. Something you can't avoid becomes incredibly necessary So i think in workflow in terms of how. I talked to people that i was working with. High talk to new New characters stories that had to change become really direct Safety and health focused. I before anything that also changed with high communicated with editors in this process Had to be no comfort and safety and health first story is not the secondary definitely album worthy editors board and everybody was supportive and was there. I'm curious about any camaraderie. Had with other photographers. Did you see that became I mean was there a lot of positives in that sense. Yes so the first part of that. In the majority of editors that i worked with were incredibly supportive on the same page and mailing in respecting my safety more than the story and i think that is something that i felt very positive about. Of course not. Every publication was like that but the people who aren't sets those relationships you just end that's not worth keeping up but the majority of people are really sending key calling checking in Briefing even the most simple stories. You know you're going to be photographing outside here. Do you feel comfortable like calling talking things through again. The communication became essential. So i did find a lot of support that in something i think i learned i learned about. You're going forward. And i think now working with editors that will always be something that i asked for in need in a relationship and when i look backwards surprised it didn't demand or want that prior so i think you know this kind of situation really did reveal how we should be treating each other and how it should be working In terms of camaraderie with other photographers. qadri somewhat misery. Like there's no work or all freaking out like they're all gonna be suffering. There is some comradery in those feelings. turn war to support in sending each other extra p. e. checking in checking a lot of mental alpha. Zion stress really really gets to us through these times And just learning to be there as a support system. You know like we're all in this together. We're all freelancing together in wanting to tell these kinds of stories in meeting for to like discussing. How do we do this creative. Like the things are looking really bland like the same like you haven't advised. Can you help take my work. These kinds of meetings were really helpful. And did you take time off at all or have you been working pretty much. How would you describe your your weeks. Were they every other day did work every day. Did you take a chunk of time to get yourself back together at all. I'm so that's a question that i wish. I was better at announcing on my work life again. Last time we spoke. I was more in point of almost reaching burnett like in march and april. I was working way too much. When i covering the hospital shifts and taking every assignment i could and i think my way of combating beings idea of the pandemic was just like work through it. You know your job is to cover it and put your emotions as secondary things in your life. That's obviously not a sustainable way to approach this So i think after that month i was fueling ruby burns out in anxious like not having a breakdown but almost i think from experiencing especially the work in the hospitals was really terrifying so grew we. Actually the commission from ict for me was chan the back off into into not take assignments for a month end to work on this project slowly I live with her so it wasn't even leaving my home. It was a nice way to rest into kind of a recharge and step back from that burnout feeling so the commission and the grant did off the chance to really not have to take all these assignments but that's also a luxury that i'm very grateful for but basically i've been working the whole time through Some months more than others. And i think after the period of of march and april of that time i was feeling burned out. I did have to learn how to take care of myself and not just us work as a way to not deal with my own feelings on what's happening around me sir. Are there any Maybe one or two images that you'd like to talk about that for you. Anyway sums sums up The experience that you had during colder whether that's with blanche or maybe an assignment. And maybe not necessarily you know a definitive conic image of of cova. But just something that really sums it up for you something. It struck a chord with you. Yeah that's that's a great question There's a picture that really stands out to me. That's actually a flange in her basements. She's wearing a mask. And a pink. Blouse in this beautiful broach like a heart birch and a large had and she's blowing out a birthday cake wearing a mask and it was the morning of her eightieth birthday. And she's alone. Doing this in this picture released it out. Because i feel like it. Summarises like the absurdity some joy in some sadness of this entire year like celebrating your birthday as an eight year old alone wearing a mask blowing out your candles in your basement to me is two thousand twenty with coded. It's picture because it does show like you still have to celebrate. Life has to go on. We have to do these things that they look different in their funny in this picture is maybe one of the only pictures i took. That always makes me laugh. The rest are a little bit more serious. So i think this one's important me because it does that irony in it. It was such a funny morning but yeah this picture really stands out to me. It was really so nice chatting with you again. Seeing how things coming along and as we mentioned we'd love to see a speak with you guys in another maybe six to eight months. Hopefully when this thing is winding down and we can start talking about how it's coming together again in the hopefully returning to whatever the new normal will be so we do. Look forward to speaking with you again. A be safe out there and be careful as always and Again just talking with you also If people want to catch up with you work and see what you're doing where can they go. Yeah the best face be on instagram. That's posting most of the fixtures in this project in from assignments along the way and my instagram great. Go through thank you. It's my first and last name. And sarah you're the work that with blanche exhibited. Icp already that still up to be seen. Yes the work with lange. This project is currently at the ict museum and it will be on display until december. Okay and we'll have all this information in the show notes so with for seeing your instagram and will either this stuff so all the show notes if people wanna follow up on that again. Thank you so much again for joining us today. Thank you thank you john. Welcome okay if you'd like a heads up the very moment in new being h photography podcast goes live. It is easy way. You have to his head on over to ever. You get your podcast fixes type. B and age photography podcast into the search field. And you are part of the family. You can also find this on the beach. Explorer website in on the be nature photography podcast facebook group. All that said my name is alan white's in on behalf of john harris and jason tables. Thank you so much for joining us to jay.

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"Are you four I am names brand. And I'm Jake Brown. Dad. But some people call me bucks brew. And here's the news. That ring now. All I don't like it at all. Oh Yeah I know it's been raining quite a bit during the pandemic of a hybrid today. Is May Third Two thousand twenty it is national two different colored shoes day. Fun That's neat. Using where like. Jews around here. Why is it trademarked on on the computer? What do you mean? Well, all the holidays, not many of them have an arsenal covers everything. No question. Our first story of the day is all about climate change kind of know macaroni team. Well, it is Bram. So because of melting glaciers and ice and things in Norway, researchers have discovered all of these old relics. What's a relic? Oh, a relic. Evidence that last time of. Things for a long time ago. So for example, in this mountain pass in Norway, down, tunics, and mittens, and a distaff and Cairns. Any of those things are oh. Okay. You Mittens are out I knew admittance. Tunics. On these are all things from the Vikings. Makings those people screaming stuff well. You don't have the chance to go to Norway you should go to Oslo and check out this museum they have their I. It's amazing. You can see re-creations of Real Viking ships. Anyway. So they've discovered all of these things in a mountain pass in. Norway because of climate. Oh, like melting ice. Yes, and so this is interesting because it says that the Vikings were walking around up there between three hundred and fifteen hundred ad or see putting on how you say I like to say indeed, thank you A. Pretty Fascinating. It's also more support for the transhumance concept trains. Humid's what's that. The idea I guess about ten twenty years ago with being be more and more popular studying how humans have moved over over the years and talks about. This is the first time that we've seen evidence of people walking around. Way Up there until then only the Alps and things. In Northern Norway. One interesting thing is that the vikings they made snow shoes for horses Oh that's weird like those special shoes the walk in the snow for horses yeah. Oh, that's pretty cool. Phillies tell you. We should get a record player here. Oh, grandma I know. But what would we listen to? WE LISTEN MICKEY MOUSE AND DONALD DUCK Spears. Okay. So pretty interesting article in the New York Times boys and girls. It's all about this company in London called the electric recording company Oh. Yes at so neat. So I think wasn't about they make records albums old fashioned kind of album, but they make them exactly close as possible to musical in the nineteen fifties. Yesterday. Specialized equipment and it's very expensive. You know for them to make it and also for people put people to buy it. Just to buy one of these records on average four, hundred, five, hundred, six, hundred dollars. It's pretty amazing. All these the glowing vacuum tube amplifiers and monotype systems It's really like trying to make a genuine recreation of the old fashioned sound. Oh. Yes. So what was the guy's name is up Pete Hutchinson Oh? Yes. Pete Hutchinson You rising that bookstore me about how was it good remainder by Tom McCarthy. Book for adults. Pretty, good. It's about this man and becomes obsessed with creating original field. Tom Hutchinson's doing good job. Tom. May the fourth be with you always. Tomorrow Right. Yes. Bram. Can you sign a contract for me contract with the contract contract is a piece of paper that you sign the promise you'll do it. Oh Why are you saying that? Well, because that is what Disney has actually done. There's been a bit of a Snafu Snafu. Food is like. A little mistake basically last Monday, Disney started saying to its fans I guess on social networks like facebook and twitter does that. Make a Hashtag, what's the Hashtag hashtags that little like tech side limits that like people aren't talking about it so trending or or whatnot, and so Disney. Last week they said okay. Say May the fourth be with you. But beware that what you write, we'll be owned by Disney. Kind of weird. Yes. Yes it is. So Disney acquired. Lucasfilm property that star wars basically, all the star wars, films and toys. All those things and. This kind of conflict conflicts. Coming problem. Two sides here you have these fans of Star Wars just love Luke skywalker and Darth Vader, and all of those things and they go to comic con in San Diego and they wear weird costumes and. All those things. Then you have corporate Disney, a big company and basically Disney kind of I believe admitted that. It was a mistake. You can't own a tweet. Yes. What is the tweet? Little tiny thing. You say online like we've talked about Donald Trump doing on. Okay. Another one of those big words we keep his scientific words. I think we just like hires somebody just big words. So it's a the lot to such A. Yes you're talking about those. Alligator like creatures from a long time ago, right? Yes. Just discovered that they could swim like dolphins kind of right like dolphins and whales. Really, deepen the water because they discovered the ear canals can have like. Equilibrium balance that's what those things do. What's never equilibrium balance Bram good question balances like you know when you find that state and you're like right in the middle of left and right McCoy librium is when you find that state but you don't go back. Oh. That's weird. Yeah. So anyway, scientific discoveries long time to go basically alligators alligator like creatures they were just on land deep deep water. Wheels pretty cool. Might Have Covid Koivisto, look at my toes. Oh. Bram Gosh. Let's say you just gonNA take a bath. that. I know everything about. Purple. Yes so if you haven't heard there's A. Possible Symptom, of Covid, nineteen and it's having like purple toes. Kind of weird. Allergy infection or something like that. But boys and girls notice that your toes are like that and nothing else is wrong with you. You're not coughing chills you don't feel sick. Then you probably don't have covid nineteen so so don't worry. Okay. So aren't. Really quickly trip yesterday we told you that parks were opened in New Jersey Winter South Mountain Reservation New Jersey. Yeah. It was really cool here the swan boats but we couldn't go on. Lots of people wearing masks and up by. For. Yes Ram you also spilled water all over your body. Yeah. SMART okay. Thanks. For Boys and girls as you get older the news, we'll get older to forget about that. You'd have. Thanks but later by. This week's good. A news ears dot com don't forget to check out our videos on YouTube dot com and our teacher lesson plans and more a little north years. Dot Com may your sweetness? And your colours glow red. Sources for days broadcast include the New York Times CBS News and then Guardian. Well hello everybody, and welcome to my kate it's raining outside I don't like it very much. It makes the whole place rather rather anyway my name is Otis but you can call me the Laura's and and this point today's date is may third two, thousand and twenty. In Zoos Sania that data something a little bit different in zoos senior that's one, sixty, six, ninety, nine, the quiz begins now. Number one what did the Vikings makes snowshoes shoes for? Was it a? They're women Ole for their women. Was it be horses or was it? Thomas L Like so much for the answer is for. Lesson number two Jimmy Alfonse does each album cost from the electric recording combining a somewhere around four or five million dollars isn't it be somewhere around four hundred or five hundred dollars or is it somewhere around four or five pennies? Bend. The answer is somewhere around four, hundred, five, hundred dollars. Above. Number three. What mistake did Disney make all about twitter? They thought they could own what people said on twitter meet the the. Failure was Yoda's mother or see they told everybody they weren't going to open new park in New Mexico. Then the answer is hey, they thought they could own what people said on twitter. Russian number four, which animals were the. Most, similar to Jimmy was eight lady bucks. Was It big Wales? Was it see flock shock and the answer is B. Number five if you have purple toes only do you have called in nineteen eight? Definitely be probably not the only your mother or father now Well, boys and girls. I'm about to talk to this guy who told on me he's a real babur goodbye.

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"Support for NPR and the following message come from Dulles International Airport with the highest on time takeoff percentage of any airport on the east coast. I a d means I'm already departing more at fly dollars dot com slash fast. Live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. House speaker Nancy Pelosi says attorney general Liam bar has lied in his testimony before congress NPR's Windsor. Johnston reports that's led some Democrats to call for bars. Resignation and possible impeachment speaker Pelosi cues bar of committing a crime lying about special counsel, Robert Muller's report on Russian election interference. He lied to congress and anybody else did that it would be considered a crime bar was asked during congressional hearings last month. Whether he knew what was behind reports that members of the special counsels team were frustrated by his summary report of the investigation bar said, he didn't know, but this week it was revealed that Muller had sent a letter two weeks prior objecting to the way he had characterized the probes findings bar has repeatedly defended his handling of the report and has insisted that he's been as transparent as the law allows. Ause Windsor Johnston. NPR news, Washington. The second person erode to be chosen by President Trump proceed on the Federal Reserve Board has withdrawn his name from consideration after weeks of denunciation conservative commentator. Steven Moore's pulling out the fifty nine year old more drawn sharp criticism for not only shifting views on interest rate policy, but also sexist comments he'd made about women like Trump's previous pick former presidential candidate, Herman Cain. Many also viewed Moore's lacking in terms of credentials for the job a letter obtained by the New York Times said the scrutiny of his candidacy become quote untenable, Catherine Pugh has resigned as the mayor of Baltimore. Her attorney nounce the move by reading a statement on her behalf. Emily solvent of member station. W white PR has more the scandal that led to Pugh's political demise began in mid March. When the Baltimore Sun reported that half a million dollars worth of self published children's books to the university of Maryland medical system, while she served on its governing board Pugh resigned from that board and said. That she did not sell books to any other businesses but healthcare insurer and a prominent businessman among others came forward. They gave the first term democrat hefty checks for books and were later awarded lucrative contracts with the city amid outcry Pugh went on indefinite paid leave on April. First Sania case of pneumonia. The FBI, and I r s rated her home in city hall office weeks later for NPR news. I'm Emily Sullivan in Baltimore worker. Productivity. Took a solid bump up in the first three months of this year. The Labor Department reporting productivity rose three point six percent, it strongest quarterly rise in more than four years in a hopeful sign a long stretch of weaker gains may be coming to an end government says the first quarter productivity bump was more than double the one point three percent rise during the first quarter or the final quarter of last year on Wall Street stocks closed lower today, the Dow was down one hundred and twenty two points, the NASDAQ closed down twelve points, the S and P five hundred dropped six points. You're listening to NPR. The democrat controlled houses signed off on legislation aimed at preventing the Trump administration from pulling out of the Paris climate accord, the measure is also aimed at ensuring the US lives up to its commitments under the twenty fifteen deals by former President Barack Obama, although it lacks some aspects of the green new deal pushed by number of Democrats is the first significant piece of climate legislation passed by the house and nearly a decade or the Bill is unlikely to move ahead in the Senate actor Peter Mayhew who played the Star Wars. Character Chewbacca has died this week at his home. In North Texas has family broke the news on Twitter and peers Manley del Barco has more about the seventy four year old actor at nearly seven foot four Peter Mayhew donde free cost him to play to Baca a tall. Hirsute knock-kneed rookie. Julie was Hans solo co-pilot soaring through space on the millennium falcon and defending the rebel alliance. Make you played the character in the original Star Wars, trilogy and other movies in the franchise until two thousand fifteen he was born in England and got his first acting job playing the mini tar in sim bad and the eye of the tiger besides his many Star Wars appearances in movies, and for fans Peter Mayhew also wrote a children's book and a memoir growing up giant Monday. Delbarco NPR news stood of West Virginia says it suddenly lawsuit with a major opioid producer Aucoin to release from the state's governor Jim Justice in the state attorney general deal has been reached between the state and McKesson for thirty seven million dollar settlement. I'm Jack Speer. NPR news in Washington.

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H files 50 Conferencia La batalla en el siglo XVIII en la ACART por E. Mart, A. Gonzlez Enciso y M.A. Meln

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Hour 2

Marty and McGee

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Hour 2

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Just what is wrong with that? Every time. I watch those those those vignettes they make or whatever I just can't believe that they had agreed that we're a good idea to be on the television set America. Well, hey, we're not professionals. You got on Michael, Jordan stuff. And I got on a captain America raisins. Serving heroes plus on waltz. Is mardi McGee on ESPN radio and the ESPN app presented by progressive insurance guests we actually have to coming up Joey Logano defendant NASCAR Cup series champion and Aaron Tippin. The own of show Pennzoil performance line and call us eight seven to nine three seven seven six that's eight eight say ESPN and speaking of listen, you could question all wardrobe all you want but Travis is wearing it or how state shirt? Own the south home, or so your home or hey, we we enjoyed working with you Travis. All on all on his I I was I was up at a at a house state for our remorse first game back. And I knew I was actually watching a bunch of people tailgating right next to the stadium. And they were watching the SEC network because Georgia was playing like a noon game. They're watching that game before the game. And that's where the guy like spotted me turn around and through an empty crown Royal bottle at me. So there you get they walk into. Well, luckily, he consumed everything in the bottle. So when he threw the odds of him actually hit. Well, it mattered the fact that he missed me about ten feet 'cause I think had it had been a full bottle. Then he would have had his faculties about him. He he might have nailed me. But he was this was this was thankfully, he had consumed at all. So the odds of him hitting me were not great. So he was thrown into one in the middle. And you're the one on the far right is what you tell me. Right. Exactly. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. And it was. Yeah. And he missed and that was good. But that was a I don't care who you are an anti crown Royal bottle upside the head would smart just a little bit. Yeah. And an empty crown Royal bottle that you have consumed probably means that you're going to have a really bad night or bad next day. So we've seen as he was phone good at uptick appoint we spent a substantial portion of the last fifteen or twenty minutes discussing the wonder that were the rec specs. And so I've gotten on internet here, and I'll put together McGee what I believe to be the first team already expect squad. We forgot Horace. Grant Horace grant's powerful grant center. We have the legendary another athlete that people might consider the goat Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Kareem in the skyhook center. He had those huge bubble bubble. Rex PEX, I think they were. I think it was the guy. He really he g he was on the one that went on Korean was wearing of everybody else's like, okay, this DACA. Do this now. But see kareem's wreck spects, and we okay a small four we got. James worthy. Big game. James is that small forward with? He he kind of had the same ones that Kareem had which were not the actual Rick spec. They were sort of like a bubble goggle that I think protected the contact lens we need confirmation on that Travis if you can pull that off in the next fifty five minutes, you are a super hero at running back. We're we're building our sports here at running back. So we got we forgot Eric Dickerson is up Eric Dickerson. Oh, gosh. Those pumping legs. Hey, man. He had his experts coming at you. And it will you magin you magin being a defenseless defensive back. Trying to break down hit. Eric Dickerson with that high stride running running straight up and down with those Rick spects glare, and how you shoot get out the way. So how the Carl had the Carles Carles coming out. Hello for showing. Experts for sure, but here's the thing. So you so you knew you were the man and Eric Dickerson was demand. If you don't believe it just ask him. If you do he's the man when he wear wreck pacts he can pull the off, man. I had to poster I'll have I had the Rams poster. And it was just like this is coming through. He almost like the crazy. Mike single -tary is. But they were they were hermetically sealed inside of the what we're did. You just use hermetically. What does that mean in that? Right. And I mean hermetically Travis around in hermetically sealed doesn't mean when you like it sealed up right her that? I just make that up. Hermetically sounds like some unique. I've never heard that term. Sorry me either. Randy like, I say, I mean hermetically sounds like something you need a prescription for man. Sound good medically sealed inside discuss box. Oh my gosh. Okay. Hermetically? Google says it's correct, by the way. I'm. So I like this tweet right here. I like this. We'd right here are born Michael Joe, Michael Aho, say your last name, right brother, Josie or Jos Jos each. Maybe. Hey mcgee. Okay. That's why you should only cover Notre Dame games. 'cause we only throw holy water at you are that. That's a good point. I was at Notre Dame like two weeks later, and I don't think they can refer do anything there or not. But but yeah. Why are we give you a little splash lower the buckeyes mad at you? Because I do they've hated me up there for so long. I my name was on the cover of ESPN the magazine with the story that wasn't even really about Ohio State. But the cover was about how state and that was a really long time ago. I'm pretty sure I think it was it was we'll call it like the busted issue of the cheating issue or something. They did like the trussell sweater on the cover and it like and had like my name somewhere. So yeah, they don't they don't particularly care for me. This you need to be a mediator here. Son. You need to be a community relations director and reengage you need to tell the Ohio State faithful and you need to convince Columbus which is far as I can tell Columbus's nationwide. My Lord, there's buckeyes everywhere there's buckeyes and Tim buck to anyway, Travis it's your job to to make sure that we reconnect McGee with. The Buckeye legion. Okay. This is a little PSA Buckeye fans around the world Ryan McGee doesn't hate your team. And for the matter of fact, every fan Marty McGee don't hate team. They just kick sent to wherever they're told. And they go cover that team. They don't hate Ohio State. They don't hate South Carolina. They don't hate Alabama. They don't Clemson. They don't hate your team. Travis checks in the mail. Well done, sir. You have earned your today. That was was outstanding. I'm gonna I'm gonna load that on my phone and every time I go to Columbus. Which is a lot. I was just going to play it like nonstop. We'll play it like the blues brother's a big speaker on the roof of my car just ride around. He does not hate your team. I'm just waiting for the next time. I get so run the Columbia first story, I'm gonna make sure. I'm gonna have to. Oh, I understand that here. Look look at this guy for those of you watching on the southeastern conference network. We have a picture of McGee on the screen. For those of you listening listening on the radio. I'm so sorry that you don't get to witness this glorious photograph. It's McGee from probably two thousand nine maybe two thousand ten no beard, very short hair. We'll cone welcomed over he has on a different pair glasses. Nice nice jacket, and I share, but he looks to be thirteen. The hard part is amazing to the lower down on his head. And I mean, how could you hate that fence stay fan? I don't know how you could possibly hate that face. You bring that face home to moment. Maybe that's it. Maybe my maybe my my Ruffy. And look I've got a right now. Maybe just a timid ates people because I had this last fall when got through that crown role about eleven. Yeah. Yeah. So I'm gonna cut Mahir shave pretty soon, and I'll go. That thirteen year old. It's just it's just been seeing a lot of work. I trim beer foia. Oy today way down on oh, I'm not down to because I'm so winged out in the back right now. But that wouldn't make ten cut my hair before don't go China car tech with that thing they'll send you back to the garage area. I'm like, I cut my I'm not gonna cut this semi mullet off when Aaron Tippin. Coming on the show, and he'll be on the show at the bottom of the hour. But you know, who's on the show next Joey Logano the defending monster energy sprint Nextel wants to Cup champion Moby on us right here. Where I am in Daytona what mcgee's mullet is her medically sound. Sometimes Saturday morning comes quicker than expected. You know, I wrote down amasis, but I do believe that twelve times two is. More from boys. 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Yes. Lated Daytona Joey Logano walk into Marnie McGee, bud. What happened? All right fantastic. Dude. We appreciate your time. Congratulations on that win the other night as well. Now, we'll get to the Daytona five hundred in just a minute. We'll get to you championship in just a minute. It's been an embarrassment of riches for Joey Logano this year, y'all guy wins the NASCAR championship. But he's also a patriots fan grew up in Connecticut goes to the Super Bowl watches Tom Brady do Tom Brady. So I need your Super Bowl experience before we get to reysen. I want to know your Super Bowl experience. And you gotta be getting tired of watching your hometown patriots win Ali Super Bowls. Oh, I don't think arrogant tired of watching that. That's maybe some do. But for it. A refund. Thank you. I actually went to Roger Penske's hall of fame induction. You just got inducted into the NASCAR hall of fame. And we had a party the night before the Super Bowl up in Charlotte. And so we got done with that around ten thirty eleven o'clock in the car and drove down to Atlanta to or so and spent most of the day driver. He does those little have the city who says yeah, man, he jump on ago. So we spent most of the day racing those in a parking lot. 'cause I was a lot of fun. Superbowl. That's pretty much all that way. Because a lot of fun. That's the most race driver Super Bowl experience. I've ever heard in my life, by the way, I understand. I've read some reports that those things are about to be government. Regulated just for the record. No. Well, they're they're pretty tough. I can tell you when we we really we test the has the durability of the scooters and feet of him. And you can ask some great great times with them. But hopefully, they don't banned under pretty cool. But yeah, I I don't know what was more fun to suitors or the Super Bowl both for last. Is the Joey mardi just mentioned your win into Gatorade do on fifty or whatever we're calling now. This was the dill's. I still call the twin one twenty five we'll Thursday night. I was up in the press box here atonal, and this doesn't happen very often. But you made a move at the end of that race that made the people in the press box, the kind of hardened sportswriters all go. Whoa. Tell us about that insane. What fourth to I move that you made on that lasts lep. Hey, you know, we had some time as we were clicking off your point the end, the move you're gonna make and and and for me, I I had three plans it all kinds of pendant on what other other cars were going in as little down. You know implant was the one that that executed and that was pretty much. You know, gets it out that last lap. I knew I needed a full lap. Basically. I thought I did I ended up not needing it. But I thought. Get a full lap to get to the lead. And I was gonna make that move into turn one. Hopefully had a good enough run to get side by side with the fourteen Clint Boyer, and and then racing down the backstretch and hopefully have a good enough push behind me to push during the lead. But the run I had and the way they will decide draft the ten car to pull him back off a off the top lane to really slow their momentum. Really propelled Blaney and I ended up front and say, wow, the little easier than I thought it was. That are that are most things got you know, I it's just there's a fast race car. The plan worked out perfectly, you know. And it was great, obviously. And you know, the the duals I always look at the heat race. You know, let's just call and race the lineup for to five hundred. It's not the Daytona five hundred. So it's a good star. It's a good momentum builder. It shows to strengthen our race car, but it's just the qualifying race. So we got to keep our eyes on the big price. That wasn't the only on believable move. You made to earn a victory for people that aren't NASCAR fans you need to understand the way that the final race works. There are four drivers and the best finisher. Among those four drivers wins the NASCAR championship and the last three or four consecutive years. I forget how long we've been doing it that way. But the winner of the championship had to win the race to and the move that Joey went down into turn one on the. The last lap of the last race last season to win a championship. And he drove that car so hard into that corner. I didn't think he was gonna come out the other side. I don't know if Joey thought he was going to come out the other side, walk us through that walk us through what that moment is like Joey win all of your childhood dreams are sitting right there in front of you. You know, you have the opportunity you just have to have the guts to go take the opportunity. What was that? Are you? You're exactly right. And those moments, you know, the whole week leading up you realize what is on the line. It's a championship. And that's sometimes taking my whole life to get the opportunity there any wanna make the most of everything that is thrown your way. And you know that race the way it was playing out. Our car was a short run car. It was good for fifteen laps. And then after that, we were maybe fifty six place car. So my my picture did amazing job to to get us outset of third position to restart the race. And I knew I had five laps or so to make this pass. And then get as far away as possible before the seventy eight of sure times that you know, was really good in the long run before he started catching me so was able to get a good restart and then make that pass like you said down at a turn one in drive in far over my head. Stuck just good enough? So it's a little bit of wall. I it's not good enough to get through the corner. And and you know, be able to run away enough to where they couldn't catch us at the end. And there's nothing like that feeling you know to last couple of laps where you just count them down and hope to see that checkered flag. And when you finally see it, you know, it when all the dreams come true, right? It's just that's the moment where you know, we all all reached the championship. And the one of the coolest things about is. No one on my race team has ever wanted to championship before. So we all celebrate our first together that was breeding. Defending NASCAR Cup series championship Gano. Joining us on the show Pennzoil performance line. And Joe we're talking about winning a championship. We're talking about you win in the Daytona five hundred being favourite to maybe when it again on Sunday, but your career. People have studied this thing. And I know that you have talked about it. But I'll I want you to take us back to there was that moment, right? Where we all. We're all questioning was this a mistake bringing this up? So so early so young. And now the second career you've had what's that feel like? Yeah. You know, my Kerr's. I it's unique. I think in comparison to a lot of others. You know for me getting to the Cup level was easy part. You know, I I was able to get up here pretty quick very young age. And then once I got here, I realized I got a lot to learn. And I think that was a you know, it was kind of a setback for me at that point a really lost before I had to learn how to lose and learn how to get better and work on my craft. And and that was hard to do on a big stage. And you know, I got to the point that. Yeah. Lost my job after four years of racing Cup. And you know, I was very blessed to be able to, you know, have the twenty two car Roger Penske? And and Todd Gordon shell and everybody comes together and give me a second chance and make the most out of it so much brother. We appreciate your time. Man. Your computer your phone? Tell your smart speaker to play ESPN radio ESPN radio. Martin McKay on ESPN radio and. Train derailment. We will run up. We will run run over a break we run through a break like these movies where you see the car like star skin huts to to a stack of boxes that was a really old reference. Tune in tomorrow night for the sixty eighth NBA all star game live from Charlotte. Ladder our homes boost mobile coverage begins at seven thirty eastern most ESPN radio stations. So let me explain what's going on here. So I'm I'm live from Victor lanes today tone of five hundred I've actually in the five hundred club. And as I am here, y'all can't see this on TV, and you can't see it on the radio, but they're setting up like right right here. I'm looking at all like they're setting up the catering for like the important people. Come here. Watch the series and Cup series. Happy hour later today. And they're being really nice, but I came in here crocodile, and they gave me the key to the building. And I said all this stuff up, and I have set up this. Obstacle course for these poor people trying to do their job is like power chords over here and like turtle showcases and my backpack. And I feel bad. But maybe I can talk them into some food. I don't think they remind man you're it's like going to the zoo. You know, you sit there and you just kinda stare to odd looking. Yeah, you're right there. You can just check it out. And I don't know. I don't think they'll be. When the plane. Because. Okay. So we have Joey on and Joey given us this awesome insight answering mcgee's question about the difficulty of making your way to the Cup series to the absolute pinnacle dream of your little Joey never could have drained. He'd make it to cut. Well, he makes it to Cup in a hurry and the difficult part was the transition top. And he's in the middle of this. Great explanation and Travis is going when Forty-five seconds early second. A terrible time like to cut people off after he gives me a dining he'd have to be like me. Like my buddy Taylor's my buddy Taylor's ours. Are he's like a brother to me he has a show on the series six one of the great play about college football play by play guys right here on the southeastern conference networks and Taylor is a master. He is a ninja when it comes to funding. Perfect moment to say, okay. Thank you very much. We get your time. I don't know that I'm not good at that not us and Joey poor, Joey if we went through his explanation and the next thing, you know, it's one eight hundred flowers dot com commercial or something just a complete. I would come train, right? Dr Phil I would straight Dr Phil on him. Like now, Joey take me back to into to the day. And as I'm asking the question, and you and I both we agree. We're asking the super serious question. And as we were building to that question. I'm like here we go here. It is. This is it this is the one we're getting too. These moves you wonder races. That's great. This is real really building up to. And as soon as we got to it outright to another question. Travis gives away or gets one minute. I was great at this. I was disappointed because I had one more question. I two more questions to ask him the most important of which was hey, Connecticut, boy, biscuits are corn bread. Unfortunately. Yeah. Well, not have the time. We're gonna ask Aaron Tippin biscuits. A corn bread did Aaron call in yet. Or did he bagasse did? He bailed. Oh, that's where that's where I was going with this was there. Ain't nothing wrong with your radio unless you're waiting. The reason we had to. We would have we would have brought joy back to talk to him some more. But we did not do that. Because we were like, hey, we gotta keep the bone lines clear because a air tip is gonna call Travis. How's that going efforting? I talked to his publicist and she said that he was aware and she's going to give them a call again. He's in the gym. I'm telling you guys he's got four hundred pounds on the squat wreck. He's getting his Jalen hurts on man Carlin. The first the first hour of the show was going smooth around the highway cruise control and this hour is a little bumpy. Ain't nothing only the radio unless you're watching it on TV it. Somebody's alone just win. Here. Somebody's alarm go off on their phone. I wake up people. Maybe I was alarm call in to the Martin McGee program. Yeah. May may while we're running through breaks the hulk going along coat like the Kool aid man pretty so I get to the racetrack. Right. This is the first one of the restaurant forever. These are dear friends that work in this industry that we've known for twenty years, and they're all very complimentary to the show. But what they all talk about is our inability to a hit a bright correctly and be understand the inner workings of being on TV and radio at the same. We're not last week. Randy Randy last week right on the air. We were like a we wheeled radio yet. You're like you've been on the radio for three minutes. Now. I mean, it's not I would not call it a smooth transition. You guys are getting better though. I think I need to come up with a producer rating for one to five on the smoothness of joining radio today. I would probably say you're about a three two. We started strong really started with four or five right? Out of the gate, but it's slowly come down. But we can we've got one more opportunity to really may know that biggest problem I'm gonna tell you the biggest problem. Biggest problem with today's shows. The fact that we both showed up with a sunny forecast. That's unprecedented at the moment and McGee program showed up with a full snow clown. Not a cloud in the sky. It never happens like seeing the unicol. Well. And the reason it hasn't happened is because you're not down here women because last year last year last year on this very day ruffling because you you were here you were here doing some other stuff, and I was here working for for UPN. And you and I decided we both got out of here early on Saturday. And we went over to the streamline motel which was where NASCAR was founded in the nineteen forties. And then it didn't we ended up moving somewhere else. And I think we might have made the mistake of like getting on the periscope thirty minutes, and we told maybe some of the stories that we can't actually tell on the radio we had Daytona infield. Oh, we had motoring the Daytona infield mardi McGee Sola would. By the way, driving in here this morning at five forty five AM into the Daytona infield. Yes. On Saturday morning. I it was it was apocalyptic. There was stuff that one guy was just sleeping a middle of the road. They all ran over. I come out of the tunnel was just taking a nap in the middle of the road couple of years ago a whole bunch of years ago. What is it two thousand nineteen two thousand seven twelve years? Ten twelve years ago, a great friend make great friend, Shannon. Spike. She is a big wheel hosts now for Fox Sports and hosts like their national pre race shows and all that she sideline reporter for them so spiking or walk in. It's I don't even know old dark thirty and we're walking from our car to the media room. And this guy comes rolling up, and he's toting his buddy who's passed out in one of those radio flyer wagons. He's pulling his buddy and his buddies passed out in this way. And so eight looks at spike on me, and he goes. Hey, y'all know we're tunnels at and I said what language was that? Can you repeat that hey wears a tunnel at I was like well like you mean to totally get out of the race track? Again, it's that way about a mile and a half. And if you're gonna pull Jeff throw man, you might want to go find the truck I and it was I mean, my man was a mess. It did look like a zombie. It was his ambi- apocalypse. His hair was all over the place had six teeth and three or four of them were in his pocket. It was unbelievable. It was a spectacle. Basically, basically, it was hillbilly headlines in real life. Well, and that's where we're going next and an end the perfect lead to the break before we get to heal headlines. This to tell you this that as parked in the infield media lot at the Daytona International Speedway on Saturday morning to come in here and do morning McGee. A gentleman had set up a stand up cardboard cutout of Kabushiki right at the interest to the media parking lot and cow bushes. Cardboard self was wearing women's undergarments and had a let's say a Valentine's Day gift strapped right to the center of his forehead. It's morning McGee on ESPN radio and the ESPN app in the SEC network. Mardian McGee not your typical radio show. They got some really really nice tractor. I attract twelve that's a that's the sign of a redneck event. No, worry more Marty and McGee next. Hey, everybody. Welcome back to mortar Mckee on ESPN radio and great sonar. As always presented by progressive insurance. The power to save is in your hands. Snapshot from progressive awards, you're safe driving with discounts found out more progressive dot com. About warning. Let's go now. Gene. We're still getting a what I would not call complimentary tweets about our handling of the joy llegado interview. We got one tweet guy said if we wrecked Joel llegado like that during the race. It'll be a thirty car pileup. It was it was a big near say sorry, Joey it was a pretty wonder what is failures radio deal on our part. And I'm getting all sorts of gifts, we call them gifts. Randy's that what they call just gifts. But I cannot confirm that guy that created them calls them gifts. That's apparently going well, the official for nunciatures is Jif which where I come from peanut but Jif, so I'm going gif. Okay. It's a gift we gotta Gifty from people sending me the Kool aid man, I got people so many the hulk this is how that's how we handle commercial breaks. So let's turn that's. Outside. That's accurate. All right. So I'm in Florida, and that feels good, you know, why? Because it's time for the hillbilly headlines. Now time for the southern gentleman's news briefing. Just kidding. Hearing your hillbilly headlines on Marty and McGee. Latest sulfur. Ricky Henderson arts on. Well, I'm in Florida, which is the home of all the. Which is the the exporter of the great hillbilly hit lines. This was actually from Wichita kids know, when you gotta go you gotta go. And that's something to Home Depot customer Wichita knows all too well, unnamed shopper calls a major incident has local home improvement store when he chose the wrong words to explain his intestinal discomfort. This was written in the New York Post, by the way, he called nine one someone called nine one one on the staff because a custom reportedly told him no manage just waited bomb threat in the bathroom. As it turns out. It wasn't an actual poem. It was an a tesla ball. He said somebody told me there is a bomb in here. Need to leave the building. He said it three times to sit to call. The police turns out it wasn't a wasn't that kind of bomb. But it was a public service get out of here. Oh, drop a bomb. Okay. Let's say the New York. A woman. Who couldn't get a beef Patty at her favorite New York? Eatery used a baseball bat in protest of the fact that she couldn't get said beef Patty on Saturday police released surveillance video of a woman in action in the Bronx smashing restaurants windows after learning the eatery had run out of her favorite food. Police say the woman at the back home restaurant in the Morris Morris Sania neighborhood came in the afternoon of January fifteenth and ordered a Patty she was told they'd run out of patties and she got upset. Authorities say she left and came back to the Jamaican restaurant with the bat. The video shows a woman smashing into windows. She fled shockingly and police were still searching for her on Saturday. The video shows a woman dressed in black and white jacket and matching sneakers swinging multicolored aluminum baseball bat as bystanders tried to stop her before she walked away. No. One was injured in the incident. The back home restaurant in the Morris. Sania neighborhood is a simple affordable spot offers Jamaican specialties such as curry goat, an oxtail drawing people from around the city. A woman. Hey, if a woman wants, Patty. You don't get in her way. Don't get in into way of looking at this here. Look at this here of this was a headline from Tampa. But it's kind of a fake out. Because actually having in Kentucky, a massive fish, turn heads, Kentucky, hunter Anderson really isn't a giant goldfish out of a pond twenty pounds. Guess what called him use it a biscuit as Bates? Well, so that's the official fish of the mardi Mckee program. Right there. You pay on fat go. You know, what happened for the record is hashtag team. Biscuit some parent. Some parent got tired of feeding juniors little fish and flush that bad boy down the John. And the next thing, you know, he's twenty pounds out there in lake Norman settled down. That is ridiculous. Look at that. That's global warming team biscuits on. Look at that old. Boy, they're more there with his UK sweatshirt hoodie on love ask coach stoops. Hey, he's he's go cats. Yeah. He could take that down here to the Kroger and filet it up real good wonder what goldfish tastes like? Hey, real quick. Let's head over in Connecticut. We haven't done the steak sauce attack yet. Right. Have we done? Randy. Did we do the state does attack yet? I think we didn't we do that last week? Maybe we'd be I don't I don't know probably weren't doing again. I if we if we've done then that's all right. We're we're running on this program. It happens. This is over in hamden, Connecticut, we owe this to the people of Connecticut to apologize for those ads. All right. We're in hamden. Connecticut woman is facing an assault charge. After authorities say she attacked her neighbor with an unusual weapon a bottle of steak sauce. According to WGN, h police said Patricia nuts. Fifty six got into an argument with her neighbor 55-year-old a fifty five year old woman early Saturday at a hamden home during the during the dispute nuts, hit the woman upside the head with the bottle police say, you gotta be careful. You never know. There's weaponry everywhere. You just have to be willing to go locate it. Yeah. I don't know if I'd go for the bottle if I was ticked off at you, man. And I wanted to not your head. I don't know that. I'd choose a bodily he wanted to do it. Maybe. Well, I don't to to me. It's if correct sake casts, you got multiple choices. Go get that fake get one just as steak sauce like monarch, whatever it is described that crab out while you'll ruin a perfectly good by lay one upside somebody's head. It's fictive. That'll that'll that's not go break or the do. We have we have a twenty eight to show you guys before they Russia's all fair here. These are official Mardian McGee mascots right here. You'll take a look at this from deaf W F L A news. I can't say that from wolf LA news. We have a new contender for the most Florida maternity photo of two thousand nineteen so far this year. Yeah. There's a couple that's holding a baby nursing a baby gator in their joints and their tank top with their with their brand new glowing mom belly out so cowboy boots shotgun. It is a spectacle of epic proportions, and and they have their shotgun. Resting on a case of Bud Light. Ladies and gentlemen, because Florida. There's a part of you that hopes that they did that I run it that it did it as a joke. It's no kidding. After after after all these years. We know that's. Those are the things that made the most of them walk him to the earth little child, and here are the things that just don't even know what to say. Hey, tom. I today toll five hundred you're going to the NBA All-Star game. I want to say something the east sixty tomorrow morning. I got a feature about Muggsy Bogues is going to run on the on the show that I'm excited about bring that up because obviously all star games in Charlotte. But also remember the NASCAR rod along program. Man. It was a boy, Ricky craven and Mugsy and Vlada devote. We're in the back of the car. Remember that? I do remember. His house. Yes. What what was the biggest thing? How much time? Do we have Travis? Okay. You have one minute. Now. Think about you a fifty second. What was the coolest thing? He'll learn about not tell me about. You now have possibly. Here's what we're about Mugsy. And this is the surprise who listen, the story is his brother Chuckie, his older, brother. They grew up in a rough neighborhood like the neighborhood from the wire in Baltimore, we have twenty seconds him bringing his brother bring his brother Chuckie in his house and save his life. That's all I would say, hey, you go where you jersey over to the NBA all star game. You got him and my goal today. You've seen Wayne Wade shopping jersey swapping jerseys with everybody in the league, I'm trying to swap my high school jersey for Dwayne Wade jersey. Go spartans. Yes. Go spartans. Hey, go. I think but but calls center tipping didn't go as high school. I think that's why I didn't call him do antennas whipping new PM serve sports fans anytime anywhere ESPN, plus more sports. More leads more teams more ESPN Domo the SPN a visit ESPN dot com today. 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"Support for this podcast and the following message. Come from Samuel Adams for thirty four years. Samuel Adams has made their Boston lager. Inefficiently Sam Adams brews with one hundred percent heirloom middle Fru hops lottery. Their beer for over a month. The Boston beer company Boston mass savor the flavor. Responsibly live from NPR news in Washington. I'm Jack Speer. House speaker Nancy Pelosi is accusing attorney general William Barr of lying to congress concerning. The Muller report on Russian election interference and bureau's. Kelsey Snell reports Pelosi's comments come as the House Judiciary committee is threatening to subpoena bar to testify before the democratic led panel Pelosi says bar withheld the truth from congress and was inconsistent in his statements. What is deadly serious about it? As the attorney general of the United States of America is not telling the truth to the congress of the United States. That's a crime Democrats, say bars testimony. Before the Senate Judiciary committee on Wednesday was inconsistent with his previous testimony about his communications with special counsel, Robert Muller. Pelosi avoided questions about whether the house will censor bar or take any other actions to reprimand him. A Justice department spokesman responded by calling Pelosi statement, quote baseless Kelsey Snell NPR news, the capitol zaken person in a row to be chosen by president. Donald Trump for a seat on the Federal Reserve Board has withdrawn his name from consideration after weeks of problems conservative commentator. Steven Moore's pulling out the fifty nine year old Moore had sharp criticism for not only shifting views on interest rate policy. He also was criticized for sexist comments made about women also like Trump's previous pig. 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The South African Performance Expert Who Blends Biohacking, Biomechanics, Body, Mind, Relationships, Environment & Beyond To Optimize Human Performance.

Ben Greenfield Fitness

1:19:43 hr | Last month

The South African Performance Expert Who Blends Biohacking, Biomechanics, Body, Mind, Relationships, Environment & Beyond To Optimize Human Performance.

"On this episode of the ben greenfield fitness podcast. I realized that if i stood any chance in the pocket system. I needed to be academically dating that he saw. I'm still shocked. More personal trainers and more performance coaches aren't finding out what's going on on the home front what we can do right now. It's really changed the face of professional sport and how we analyze not just efficient sport but actually professional tree. Yeah but that's not fun. Most people wanna find out what kind of superfood smooth either supposed to drink. All the different magical supplements they can consume help performance nutrition longevity ancestral living bio lacking and much more. My name is ben greenfield. Welcome to the show. Well many of you Who may have been following me for the past couple of years may know that went an immediate tour of india last year and while there met a super smart guy who i finally finagled into recording a podcast with me And he is just a wealth of knowledge on sports performance biohacking and religious like peak optimization of body and brain. Today's podcast is brought to you by a pretty cool new little immune product that we've been working on over at my company kion really cool product. It's a it's a blend of two of the most studied clinically proven nutrients for immune health vitamin c. and zinc and we have a extremely good source of vitamin c. And zinc to facilitate the production of immune cells and protect them from harmful molecules oxidative stress and then Zinc if you have been living in iraq lately probably haven't heard about zinc and its effects on supporting the immune system but man. It plays a central role in immune cell formation to surprising. 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And they're gonna give all my listeners. An exclusive discount on any of their products. They have world class customer service. They can walk you through the exact you've light that's going to be perfect for you. You go to juve dot com slash bent. That's j. o. V. dot com slash ben and use code. Then everybody you may recall. If you've been listening to podcasts or any longer than a year that last year i did a kind of a tour of india. Went to all these these amazing places and met a lot of really really cool folks but when i was having a dinner there I wound up across from a guy who who really really intrigued me. He delved into what he does which is essentially working with extremely high performers with athletes with teams and with a host of people who are not only like extreme exercise enthusiasts but also professional athletes executives etc and he specializes in in kind of using a unique flavor of biohacking in bio mechanics and physiology and breath work and alteration to one's one's personal professional environment to enhance performance in some really cool ways that i hadn't heard of before anyways after after i wound up having dinner with him. We actually. we hung out a little bit. We went we went to lunch. I think a couple of days later. And i found out that he was in the process of releasing a book which he just sent me a few weeks ago and i read. It's called breathe believe balance actually available amazon and The book is is wonderful. The stuff we talked about was was so cool. And i just think he's. He's a diamond in the rough. And i had to get him on the show. He has served as a consultant to a ton too. Many to name in terms of the the athletic teams and olympic associations and davis cup teams and asian games. Participants and olympic participants is working on the tennis tour for six years With with grand slam champions and just a ton of professional tennis players and He also runs an institute in mumbai called the he'll institute or iran that is which was a sports science and rehab practice and now he he works in in digital content and then as a private consultant for a lotta these different companies. so he is just. He's a wealth of knowledge and we're super lucky to be able to To listen to today calling in from schimmel you're over in mumbai right now i then yet. Thanks so much. For having me. I am in mumbai at the moment. Yes right cool so shimao. We've talked before but you have to pronounce your entire name for me. Just so people can can get straight. 'cause i don't wanna butcher it. No it's a shamal shamal beloved g so i'm not getting in spell your last name but chamo- for those listening in because this is where you're going to find the show notes for everything we talked about. Shamelle is s. h. a. y. a. Like sharia and then mall. ma l. It sounds like it should be shyamal. They may recall you them in a lot of people. I saw your name. I was like he said shamal. But as shyamal so ben. Grief opens dot com slash s. h. a. y. a. m. a. l. Shamelle is where you can access the show notes for everything that we talk about Chunnel remember when we met at that dinner. I'd i forget we with jag. And that was it that was in. Mumbai wasn't where we met. We will be way by big a bandra Complex we walked around to. We actually had lunch at a place called old. Pedro you show me that mall. Apparently they're building the biggest mall in the in. The world like puts the mall of america in the malls in dubai to shame that was that was quite impressive when we walked by that place on the way to lunch. You remember that. I absolutely do. Its massive. i think it's shitty goes to completion opening. Now it would have opened actually. We went in lockdown October this year. But it's gonna be a yup. It's called alliance mall. It's probably going to be one of the biggest in the world. massive i'd be. I'd be probably more excited. If i was a mall guy but i'm sure i'm sure somebody will will be salivating over the idea of yet another giant mall and then at that place that we went to lunch and i i realized i might be boring all of our listeners but it was actually really amazing style of cuisine. What was that was that style of cuisine. You recall so yeah i do. It's a it's a famous restaurant in bomb. Mako bedroll any specializes in going food. So goal is a little beach town which is in the zone state to borrow a forty minute flight from australia on bombay. End specialized Seafood and see cuisine so going g. o. n. g. o. a. And co a link to that in the show. It was actually really good food. It was like just fresh amazing. I've never eaten cuisine before it was. It was fantastic. So thank you for jogging my memory. Because i have to guam food. Cook book at some point Anyway so let. Let's talk about you. Because i talked to a lot of people who specialize in things like performance enhancing biohacking applying things that have the flavor of functional medicine for example to to sports or to exercise or too high performing executives. Be kinda have your your own unique flavor that i know we're going to get a chance to delve into on today's show but love to hear a little bit of your background like how you actually came to to do what it is that you do now and and we have time so feel free to take your time but walk us through how how you actually came to to be kind of the the sports scientists psychologists high performance coach that you are now and it's an interesting question It started all. I grew up in south africa and i grew up. Doing what was the about era. So the date for this disease institutionalized segregation people of color and in south africa people of color was generally those of african descent. collects end indians. So everyone Descendancy was classified as a person of color ending the the data those restricted opportunity so You couldn't play sport for the country. You couldn't go new no access to beaches pox In korea's you only live in certain areas and a whole host of things that went on there and i started wanting to play a cricket for the country and i was very keen as a young boy. Assuming it I played at nor state levels at national levels. When i was a way under fifteen under fourteen and what happened. Was you know when i turned eighteen. I realize is backed i now falling. What's called the open. Category and the open category mid that i now with competing with everyone else getting the ecosystem wet people of color were not given opportunities to represent their country and that was ready Of quite disheartening. At the tight. Because everything i own everything that i worked in. Sacrifice fool was the end when knows as young as seventeen old after many. Make a hard decision. And that decision was do. I stayed as an act need trying to pursue a career in the sport or do i try to deviate any no also passionate about sport. I leading one up. Leave it completely. So i went and studied squad signs because i was. I was predeceased crib. So the credit union gave me a scholarship where they paid for all my studies. I went to the leschi of poisoning. It's l. a. Which was one of those utilise skis where it was ready to bedrock of all of movements at stop did in that time. Electricity really activists some sort. So you know anything. That was bubbling under the political rate style days. It was also quite a life at that university so i studied sports science. I was fortunate banda from the day. I started studying. I was given the opportunity to worked as a coach in high-performance system with active. So i literally went from a one day be appear athlete. Repeal a key member of the team to the next day being on that coaching staff and that was mind blowing translate trip because one day. Everyone's your friends the next day you have to give them direction on what to do an add to learn how to be a little awkward. It's it was extremely Heroes are people. I aspired to a not looking to me for guidance. And they judging you had a completely different land so to foster mining learning fasttrack. Mike girl and i did that and you know. I realized very early on that. If i stood any johnson the system to rise up in the coaching ranks. I needed to be academically very very sound so i put my mind into really studying. According to postgraduate studied multiple different areas of expertise. I tried to really peel away understand human sociology. Because i realized that that was what was going to give you an advantage and the team teams that i work with the pre. Well i can get get given the same excuse saying that. You know what you're not good enough. You don't have enough experience to work right. At the highest level choose the national level's almost as currently worke probably one level. That's always with the south african high-performance one african national academy just one run away from being with the national team. But i kept hitting a stone wall. Every time he came to die in the two thousand three night got cold enough to be technical. Land list of the indian team going into two thousand feet triggered cup. I'm not. I'm not quite sure to technical analyst means does that mean that you're like analyzing bio mechanics or something different exactly. That's exactly what. I was being analyzing by mechanics off our current players analyzing by mechanics off the opposition and based on buying mechanics. I was trying to understand who should be the best team that you should play. And how could be contract weaknesses. Like for example. You know if you have a fast bowler who's coming in if he hasn't by mechanical slow based on his by mechanics could only do certain things with the ball screens and the expert. That's pretty high end one quick question for you. Sorry to interrupt. When i was when i was an internet duke university i did a lot of Digital and biomechanical analysis as part of my my practicum there with A mentor of maine. Dr rafael asking mia and he invited me to the olympics. I wasn't able to go for that year Frankly because i was i was Getting married to my lover jessa when still married to and that would have kind of disrupted quite a bit of that but One of the things that he did at the olympics was he put you know patches on each joint of the player and then used high speed video cameras to do basically digital mechanics and see exactly how joints removing in space. Is that kind of similar to something you were doing like using a high speed digital cameras and impassioned placed on joints absolutely. We don't have the luxury of doing that for opposition but but our play is in research we definitely doing that and what we do with Using those patches on joints is when we really looking for something with respect to a changing the place technique all respect to managing injury so if an athlete has come from a severe injury stress fracture. The number. Back you know. Nelson structure has a chronic injury. Which means that this a certain load in the certain movement patent. That's where that digitized. Version of his movement patent would give us an idea to quantify exactly where that load is and with work on that. When i was working with the cricket team i had to it will spend conflicts because we have to take video footage of tv from the cameras. It will be get and we had to digitize. At thirty jobs sells like by hand. I remember doing this. And for those who listening in like picture that someone puts it like a little dot that the camera's picking up on each of your joints and then whoever's the bio mechanistic actually has to go in and frame by frame like click on each of those and create almost like a stick figure of each each frame of the movement that you're going through. I would imagine schimmel that. That technology has come quite a ways. I'm a little bit disconnected from bio mechanics laboratories these days. I would imagine that there's a little bit more efficient way to do things now. Then we've moved. I mean the three what we can do right now. It's really changed the face of professional sports and how we analyze and not just professional for actually training in. Oh because it's the data that comes out of east movement patterns that allows us to really quantify and designed programs at undestand even fueling equals based on how much of distance and speeds tells the covering. So everything's coming is been extrapolated out of the states idea and us companies now like the different companies. We have a company like silicone culture. It still does. These digitized versions of it but we have a company off which would set up to fifty cameras. That's catching every single movement often actively you're getting the team views active moving. And you digitizing that you're looking at speeds in you have a company at catapult which is tracking gps movement acceleration deceleration tunes and as a sport scientist taking all of this data putting it together and then breaking it down to see a holiday could use this in training methodology. Right okay. so that's what you're doing back in two thousand three and What what happened from there. Yes what happening to now. The i went to the world cup indian lost in the final australia. It was an actual draft the game. I come back to south africa. Getting viewed for the job at the highest national level. I get shortlisted to the last two people in been going for an interview and at the issue lasted an hour. They asking every single thing that was possible by mechanics to physiology to injury to management. Everything end in the next candidate goes in and five minutes later. He comes out. You know i'd still be. My coffee was still hawk mahan and any says they offered me the job and i realized right there and then you know i was ready. The plus tanaka candidate i was a quota system in that at also that they could say that what we interviewed someone. That's what i was. And i was so disappointed. I came back. I work for a couple of months. But i realized that you know i was getting very the stocks was building up in me. I was not happy ending. One was becoming a bus happy with so i moved into a temple. A moved into a crash temple for while. I didn't plan to stay defy as long as i did. I eventually ended up staying there for three and a half years. It was just supposed to be a weekend the week. But i realized when i went in there that needed to spend some time to really calm down calm system don understand myself. Understand the source of this anger. I a winter to really understand how to love someone who three-day badly in. Oh that was the aim of being there but throughout the entire process of mind-blowing experience. Because you know. I lend some of by greatest learnings will use every single. Act up to today. And you know i'll give you one. Such lesson was when you live in attempting to go to wake up at three. Am every single day and to wake up three and we gotta be bent by eight. Thirty nine leads us. Otherwise you're not going to get enough rest and you don't. You don't have the luxury of the death ray of the quiz you sleeping in a goal matry style room with all the other monks. Wake you up to to take into temple. So the first three or four months. I was in the ashram anna's practically falling asleep because i wasn't sleeping lena or sleeping pills to midnight if not after that so it's getting barely in our to sleep. Dozing off. In the end that crosses went on for about four or five months and then one day. A penny just dropped a realization. Hit me that you know. What if i'm going to be here. And i have to be as long as Will have to wake up. Which means i should get to bed and you know that realization shifted infant infamy. Because the next day. I started getting too early. Stopping lockwood visible meditation end. The lesson there is discipline is sticking to something long enough for it to break you before. It actually makes you one question that have about that you know waking at three am and establishing that habit and that kind of sticking with you did you find because i found that when i when i go on a hunting trip or when i'm in some situation where i'm sleeping far less and kind of get on the schedule where i'm waking up early than what i'm accustomed to the body become so accustomed to it that that you almost reset what you're able to tolerate when it comes to for example the amount of sleep that you can get so. I'm curious for you like like these days or do you still get up at three. Am or do you. do you find. You can get by on less sleep than you're able to prior to that. That experience will definitely get by leslie. I'm not waking up at three am up by about six nba in l. But i work jimmy quite late at night. 'cause i'm blue the lower writing and as a writer this so much of a Needed to be dropped silence. All my writing happens late at night early hours of the morning. So that's the only reason that it happens but generally now By by six hundred seventeen goes on from there. But i find that can operate in a little bit less sleep even though we know that there's really only one gene type of marcation gene the d. c. Two gene is a button operates on to our list sleep than everyone else for a prolonged period of time. I don't even have that gene somehow. We seem to adapt. And i guess that's the resilience of the body. What's the long ramifications of that. I guess we'll see over time. We'll we'll we'll get back into your personal routine. Because i know you have some some pretty cool habits and then pretty cool hack into your own life but back to your your monastic life. How long were you at the at the temple doing that with the monks so all day for about three and a half years and the at the end of three and a half years ago to call someone. Just drop me an email from india saying would you like to come to india work within davis cup team in professional athletes the beijing olympics. So i thought it was very cool. Opportunity i. I was very fascinated. India 'cause i worked with them during the two thousand world cup as jumped up Had been really have much positions. Wasn't doing anything. It was an easy decision to make. and yeah jumped on a plane. Came to india. I worked with. The davis cup team will about six months health abandon. We went to the beijing olympics. Iran says one of the f. sport scientists working with by few athletes and that was quite a quite a journey goes. You don't be went to. India had eighty nine athletes in two thousand eight. We had totally about t. Nine accreditations will support stops on. Which about twenty five went to administrators from the big associates so we had three physiotherapists to go after eighty nine. Also everyone was running helter-skelter treating athletes boxes of winning to fight without zeros. Ios there's no nutrition. There was a dietitian. The doctor was qualified. It was a whole host of problems and you'll having System the reason. I studied sports. I felt had to stay in the system to change the system and i came to india. And what this is a different level of discrimination. But it is discrimination when you're taking a knack eating giving you maximum female resources and you're putting him on the same platform where his another country spending a million pounds on athletes. It's discrimination on some level so so i stayed Another five six years traveling eighty to a with these activates consulted Them win to london olympics. Hoping that something would have changed and honestly nothing changed in bohol worse in the london looked extended. He didn't actually beijing and the exact same story. Repeats it me twenty four hours before we left india for the olympics. Athletes were new coaches by the federation's people who have never seen with work with them. Just said you know and that was what game but to me becoming an entrepreneur entrepreneur india. That's what the. I set up the heat institute which was really a sports science institute that was dedicated to training physiotherapist trainers and doctors on the understanding of how the world would would activate with a percussion and an in-between this entire journey hill. The time in the temple to india really highlighted the importance of the mind in everything and that deviated bit from spot signs to psychology understanding that the mind control the body and later on That if you if you familiar were the work of progressive notes from the university of cape town. Oh yeah yeah. He's well he's been on the podcast. A few times particularly related to some of his controversial thoughts are regarding electrolyte intake gatorade and then also way back before kinda kito and low carbohydrate intake was popular amongst exercise enthusiast and i had him on and he was he was one of the first voices in that sector. So yeah he. He's an old friend and he's been on the podcast a few times he. He's an absolutely amazing person. Know rarely a pop breaking research in your book. Law running the monetary such In the running ecosystem and the running world leopards. There was phenomenal. also Did some work together. He was my pronouns at the high academy in cape town two years and and he came up with what's called the central government. The way shows that it's the brain literally tells the body to slow down. You know so when when you pushing yourself and you unable to push yourself beyond a certain limit right. It's not that you're physiologically tapped out. It's your muscles have felt something uncomfortable. The extent assigned to brain signal to your brain into your brain. That's told me the slowdown. that's right. End central government eerie and at central government. Theory really grounded for me. Importance of actually understanding. The mind is controlling a lot more. We spend a lot more time understanding that. Might and back in two thousand Psychology sports psychology reading not spoken too much and And when you talk of all technology everyone was only talking about visualization and imagery also being able to clearly visualize this in an attachment of you know. That is what mindfulness is. That's what meditation is. That's what they're teaching you in the temple. The teaching you to still the mind so that you can have clarity of thought in perspective and you can look at things multiple perspectives so now instead of throwing a lowering job in inhale. Why not start blending. Mindfulness and meditation as a trading technique to help athletes come to grips with the situation understanding scientists seed things to multiple situations and then hopefully a high pressure situation that would give them a better clarity about the options available to them. And that's that's what i currently do. And that india setup. He'll i exited heating two thousand and eighteen. We open ten centers treat about one hundred thousand patients a yoga articles ten centers and the. That's my journey. Okay so so. I know that there are some pretty cool things that you do with the athletes and the high performers that you work with but even before we delve into that. I'm just curious you know with with your own journey and as much of you as you've learned being immersed in kind of this unique flavor of both You know meditation living in a monastery etc. But then you're also very steeped in the whole technology and biohacking side of things. Can you walk the audience and me through. What's what a typical day in your life. Looks like in terms of some some outside the box or interesting or or particularly meaningful things that you're doing to optimize your own body or brain or or performance. What are some must haves for you and your daily routine that you wanna share with folks really non-negotiables. Be one is not take a lot of time to myself in the day. So for example the meditation and mindfulness practices the mindfulness in the fall breath. Look at every single morning for our negotiable intimate and fostering for me. I wouldn't eat anything for one pm. These non-negotiables i my main trading methodologies. Really running i average now during cobham averaging or thirty to sixty kilometers will but if i'm training for for american it will go up to about anywhere between eighty two hundred week in intriguing distance. I used to use a lot of supplements and over the last two years. Because i've been delving into sciences. I've been trying to understand the body through the use of the five elements which is water. Spa spire in a banana. May maybe a little controversial. Because i've used the wood biohacking myself quite a bit of all myself. A bio actor. And i taught myself one day this realization. That be you know. Hacking is finding an optimized way finding a shock to do something and i thought to myself in helping little prefrontal cortex even think that i can have the intelligence of something that's existed for such a long period of time would reference cell biology would reference to the function of antioch the human body. It's so intricate. In how can i even have it. So i now i now say that. I'm not trying to hack anything. All i'm trying to do is understand the best way to work with finding the best reserve specked. What wants and. How can i work in alliance with that. As opposed to hack hacking hacking hacking is an interesting word. I mean you look it up in the oxford. English dictionary means to cut with heavy blows in an irregular random fashion and apparently that came from from the from the word hackney which which was somebody who was like a person does undistinguished work like a horse for higher or a car for higher but then in in kind of the more modern era a kind of progress from just being somebody who just like fusses around with machines and take stuff apart to somebody who you know. We'll we'll kind of like explore the intricate details of a programmable or or complex system and figure out how to stretch the capabilities of that system using some kind of a novel method and of course with sue biology that that'd be biohacking and so yeah if you if you look at the root word. It's a very very rough and almost vulgar and calloused were heard and sometimes inappropriate in my opinion for what we're actually doing which is really much more refined with subtle nuances in a in a far more informed and educated manner when it when it comes to to toying with our biology so to speak but one thing that that you just said piqued my interest you. You said you're using you know as you've kind of veered away from reliance upon supplementation these ir vedic principles new. You mentioned the use of the five elements earth fire space air and water. I would love to hear a little bit more about that yet. Ben alex pain that agree with you. That in his new film actually refers to by finishing an nfl. No that was actually. The problem came. So that was actually why i stopped using the would respect the bony because for people like us we may understand the nuance all peeling away. The layers of understanding of the person. Who's listening to us. Haq is still used as a shortcut is still thinking. Oh this is a shot that to get updates royal and How can teach them. The fuss is respect your body when you respect your body a lot of things with owning land but respect the five elements like a toolkit airspace. Firing up and vic science speaks of some interesting things so water. The first one is the amount of water that you take into. Your body doesn't always have to be drunk. In fact they recommend that forty to fifty percent of the what is eaten. So they see each year watauga through water rich foods. You know so that release. What food released what the cooked right should be a part of your day diet. We'll hello. I want to interrupt today. Show to tell you about the paleo valley beef sticks these beef. 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It's very interesting. This idea that hydrating the body comes down to a lot more than just. There's water exactly so that was a water when it comes air as radio breath look. It's the balance between how your installation and exhibition stimulates that thousand pathetic sympathetic system. So really bringing your balance in a Breathing technique where you breathing into a knowles and exceeding through the other to counterbalance your energies Recording deutsche us so we use air. Is your breath. Work space is fasting. And incidentally fostering is probably one off only principles that is completely uniform in every single religious of faith across the world irrespective of what it is. You'll find that. Every single one of the improvements bostick and ready. The reason why they promote fasting is because it's a principle of detoxification and webex sciences defers from a modern physiology. Is that modern. Physiology says that if you're sick you need energy to heal the body right. So that's why we eat food. Eat when you eating food. It'll metabolize to make through energy available to the boy vanik signs of says that when you're sick all energy needs to be diluted to that and any food that you put into the body is using energy to actually metabolize food so you using energy to metabolize that food so that the boarding itself if you re died at own resources towards heating that it recover itself so it speaks of fasting as the primary form of cleansing and detoxification year. But that's not fun. Most people want to want to find out what kind of superfood smooth either supposed to drink when they're when they're sick and you know all the different magical supplements they can consume and and I believe it was was a hippocrates who i use- used fasting as a form of therapy. I believe he. He was the first actually right pretty extensively about it. Of course it's been a staple religious cultures for a long time. But then benjamin franklin right. He's well known for saying that. That the the best of all medicines is rest fasting in and i think my wife is the person who i kind of made me familiar with that idea which she she'd get sick and she just like wouldn't eat for for forty eight hours clean up the body detox. Rest lay in bed. Read and and it works. You know. i think a lot of people in western culture. We're just conditioned to to run out to walgreens and cvs and by the five things that are supposed to fix us up fast when in fact just not eating can can can have some pretty profound effect you right. There's so much data and social research just unfortunately knock mainstream. And that's what i'm trying to do on friday. Just read about. Peel away the layers and try to bring it a little bit more main street when it comes to fire element ben. It says that you know you can draw energy from the senate and it's interesting bendik. Sciences says that single life form on pretty much needs that energy from the sun to grow. You know so. What i'd say is that you also can draw energy from the sun and the way to draw energy from the sun is a sudden yogis who practice what squad sign gazing so early in the morning before the the sun's rising when the sunsetting scattered up the sun fall looking to minutes gay. And you gotta be careful with this to make sure you don't get any written damage and should be practiced but that's a science on gazing also eating sunrise the food that's very very important. Sunlight and food is you can take whatever you have to leave it out in the sun. Vegetables beans. they'll absorb energy. And if you don't overcook it that's how you can absorb that energy from the sun into your body is really cooking. The food in earthern Hot so using clay might based vessels as opposed to these teflon dates. You know a post using the scada stein teflon cooking up because that also helps retain a lot of that fire in the food and energy food end of the fifth element is other than earth would reference to really eating plant based foods foods that a growing from the and if you stick to his five elements it set that the body will really be in balance but also wouldn't this. I also look at something very interesting. A look axe the potential renal acid. Load off eighty days. So i'm constantly studying that so the body needs to maintain what's call an acid base balance and everything that you consumed either breakdown inside acid or break. Donning to base ninth is excessive acid in the body. The kidney has really it adult but its capacity to flush out so much of acid nowadays limited so important to understand what you're taking in any what it's a house it could leading into your body and how much off that will put a stress on the kidneys for example so you're plant based foods very. Don't put too much stress. For example something that pas and cheese releases law of acid in the body and make the kidneys after work exceptionally hard invented sciences. They saying the kidneys capacity to flush acid. The body is actually more than alignment a point. Five two point six grams of protein. Poke grandma body weight as opposed to what a most june goes but say one gram when half grams which is really excessive part of that. I should note that acid base homeo- stays also depend about mineral status because the body actually is pretty efficient at maintaining proper acid alkaline status. Even if you're eating highly acidic diet but the problem is long-term the minerals that must be leached from for example bone in order to achieve that or the excess strain on the kidney long-term especially with excess protein intake in an environment of a largely acidic diet of alcohol dairy red meat etc dictates that long-term it's stressful on the kidneys and even short term can be stressful on oral mineral balance. A lot of people say. Oh there's nothing to the acid alkaline diet but there there actually is in terms of the long term stress on the body especially when it comes to maintaining alkalinity in a relatively acidic state. So this is what. I'm really doing with diet and an ill recently. When you wanna accrued hack that i figured out is would we be talking about sleep so much time we speak about a blackout blinds. We speak about the covering those that we talked so much about. Light bulb abune a lot of work. I've been trying to get my athletes to understand the impact of sound on c. Which is very interesting. So every single room would have a sudden end ian sound and generally if a room is silent that ambient sound in big is just an unconditional on or device on would be at about anywhere from about thirty five to forty five decibels and this is what sleep. Research is super interesting. It saying that is sound is consistent. Your brain will eventually block it out. It's the fluctuations of sound actually Sleep so what i've started doing is started. There's a beautiful out cold And all s which is a free app so going to lose just check what the ambient sound is a us a white noise machine and actually they use it for babies a lot so what i do is i put at white noise machine on at a few decibels of both that noise. That is ambient in there. So that becomes the consistent moist. And i've noticed that might sleep attracts of change completely because of because it's normal fluctuations anytime you're generators or anytime some sound goes off those ac some disturbance. You're gonna keep waiting now now what. What was the name of that app. That you said you're using to evaluate the ambient noise in a room. It's called knowledge. And all i s. h. n. o. I s. h. yes Never heard of it okay. Cool linked to that one in the show notes. So that's really really interesting. And i do this with all my app seats as standard things. I get into have a white noise machine in the us. Whenever we traveling. I get them. Show them how to use this app and we do the so often about blocking the entities with black tape over about a analyzing your pillows in your sleep in the temperature. This has made a massive difference to sleep at night wearing ready. Sound right now so. That's what i'm trying to. And right now trying to see be looking at these bandic science methodology and seeing how it will stack up against mike performance as a runner and having look at. What was the quantum bible difference between me going with all of these supplements updates even with supplements the ice to an interesting piece of research. That said that if you really want to understand the impact of a supplement in your body you should take one at a time. And what seventy eight dollars off the you take. You should check the pay off your body to understand what is actually doing to avoid as opposed to just looking at the benefit. How's it actually breaking house actually shifting that Which is very interesting. Sounds like really what you're doing is taking a lot of what you're doing to optimize your own personal environment sleep habits etc and then using those with some of the high performers that you're working with any in your book you really do focus on environment quite a bit not only optimizing you know environment when it comes a physical environment but also you know relationships spirituality etc but. I'm curious if we could talk a little bit more about this. This whole piece of of optimizing the environment. Like like if you know let. Let's say i were an olympic competitor. Right and and my performance is very important to my sleep is very important. My recovery is very important. How would you go about kind of detailing a little bit more. What you were already starting to delve into analyzing my environment and then optimizing environment. And i realize it's a big question but we have time benfleet in violence is ready. Broke up into two which i actually discovered assent. The external environment is made up everything that you can see smell touch taste and feel and then internally by an which is your mind and the reason why classified in two environments is actually from a lens of spirituality because this beautiful book called potentials yoga sutras with the saint potentially speaks about the relationship between your state of mind and your environment. And i'll take you through this up. Break it down for you in hollywood with it. So what he says is that they five states of mind ending the first two states of mind. The person is a diabetic byproduct of the environment. If you change the environment day will change. They will mimic that environment in shape and for the dutton island is a person the state of mind is when a person is aware of the environment but they have the also aware that they can transition about environment for example. Someone is working in a highly toxic or a highly stressed in vitamin d. Aware that you know. What if i spent twenty minutes a day. Just meditating than in photos minutes. I n devoid of any stress. I can rise above that stress The problem with the environment is that i could not sustain that for period of time the falk environment is where person can sustain that new enlightened state for a long period of time it could be it could be as it could be weeks and then the plus data flight is we have publicity solely lightened. They change they in vitamins around it now. The reason why this is so important. The reason why. I'm talking about it. I refer to two different. Environments is because you'll always see two environments at play. One environment is external with the solid with the noise of the food. That you're eating whatever you're doing profiling Amount of stimulus but that come a time when that environment stops providing any stimulus for you and if you External environment than what happens is pretty much the end of the road team. But if you understand that your mental strength your ability to steal your mind your ability to calm yourself down Through rise above the trappings of that environment is completely different option. That's available to you and it's an option that's in your control and we see this in the book. I gave a beautiful example off. Roger federer novak which in the two thousand and nineteen wimbledon final and that final acid was special three weeks. It was a it was a first final that will settle by match tiebreaker. It was the longest final history wimbledon competition and it was the first time that a male competitor came back from two match points down to win the championship. And what was really remarkable. What's joke. Which is post match statement. He said he made a comment. He said there was a moment in the game when the crowd chanting roger federer's need and if i had any chance of winning night to remove myself from that environment and he did in that statement explained. Exactly what say that will always be a time when the environment is support you but the environment is not and if you've not cultivated ability to pull yourself out of it that you Off the environment. So when i talk about these two i i work on it like this and when i'm talking about the external environment i break it up to two especially with my athletes. There is a work environment. Which is the playing field or the gym. And then there's the home environment and at the home environment. I think probably one of the most important things or whether arresting one of the most important things that i look at is look at making sure that every we standardizing the pillow that it traveling because that is one of the biggest disruptors of the pillow. Really what kind of pillow or are you having people travel with. Or how are you than analyzing that we get these analyze the beautiful companies out this some of the call one spoke pillow. Allergy does another to appeal where there's lots has been a phenomenal amount of research done on different types of pillows and how it suits Think about your clothes change at night. You're betting changes your bed. Changes but for eight hours six hours however long sticking your head is always like this one thing and that is changing if the if the temperature of his changing if the density of the exchange the texture is changing completely. Disrupt your sleep. So what we try to do is we. Try to keep that consistent. So we've noticed that things like the temperature of the is exception The thickness and the softness the density of the pillow is exactly the same. So what we try to do. Without profession we get pillow analysis dental and then we ordered Mandatory for them to travel with appeal. Well i by the way. I'm i'm a little bit of a pillow princess myself and i have all these fancy pillows own mostly like the neck nest is one that i really liked for back sleeping. I always like six fifty down pillows on my bad that i can kind of cradle around my neck between my legs during sleep. I have some other special pillow. That's literally designed to go between your knees for side. Sleepers advocate the brand on that one. But my problem is pillows are so bulky to travel with. That's the problem. Is it take so much space yet. You absolutely right in the pillows for example. If you have looked visa we travel at one. We traveled the main one answer resting on because the other ones. You can still hack it. you can still use. What's available to get you need. You can get it to support you decide all of those still you. You can have that but the one of the sleep the one that you heads on if it's too soft you're gonna be tossing turning even be trying to punch together to get some support the entire nights so we found that just getting this standard is is one of the best ways to start. You're not gonna get that standardized. You're going to be tossing around digging. It's everything else but it's that so you don't i welcome that. Obviously the in waste a white noise machine there. Every single that working traveling would be get a portable game ready machine with this all the game that that's the one that it's similar to the The the norm attack boots. Those are the ones that i only do. Great aided compression to kind of milk a lot of inflammatory byproducts out of the legs but but the game also has like ice water. That circulates through it. Right yeah so using icing ankle aggression at the same time with the athletes. I think the one that you talking about just docile brushing only grow Yeah it's like a great age compression. And i like those game ready units. They they kind of combine that with ice water which is pretty impressive. It's it's myeloid like she. All of them have that in the room and the reason why we get it into the spaces that they can istate joints in the comfort of your own home. Previously used to have one or two of these units in a change room so everyone was rushing florida. Last i eating was spending two hours longer interchange from that he needed to be so it was a small investment. We make sure everyone gets it. In the end that would respect to act. It's every single active. There's something really interesting you should always at would most codes of sport. We had this internal act which every athlete hats on that app weakened. Send footage to him off. The game's going back to every single game. He played every opponent he's played against so for example. You taking a football game. Every time guy touches the ball. We have a software that record ten seconds before that intense exhausted that touch and all of that for the footage is available to him on an app to study in his room whenever he wants to cutting into do this because this is rarely flagged things to get them to look at their performances On that so that's also part of the environment as much as be delighted to standardize equality getting influences all those things. Something's up beyond our control because we moving literally from potato Bedroom every single night. Roy but as In every single detail. We try to take a signal snowfall. All keep we try to make sure that the play is nowhere close to any exits or any lifts right so we try to get them right at the end of the room waits quite up. These are simple things that we're doing with respect to just calm in violence away. They steve right right so so even selecting the the the hotel room not near the elevator. That's actually a big one and that's something actually asked now. And i checked into a hotel room is if i can get a room. That's farther away from from the lift as you call it or the elevator as as we normal people say schimmel. Yeah that's actually pretty significant to cause lows elevators their noise generators it's crazy and even if the left even if the elevator is not making noise you know the people. It's where people congregating wednesday waiting thread. The they chats. And when are you gonna get the most noise you're gonna get the most at twenty three and when people accompanying back from a body that's when the volume really goes up. That's what you most likely to be disturbed so as a standard rule of thumb. Try to look at. What are the things with no control and take care of that and then looking at the welcome by ben. you know. that's vegas big site. So this is where we start tracking also data so when active again to a field with get a catapult. Gps trackers on him for example. So we're looking at every single deputation every movement he's taking. We're getting that woman on there. A we have a lot of hydration kits so we testing a p. h. retesting hydration pre practice in post practice. You find that they vitamins always most new change. Rooms locker rooms now have multiple icebox. Every single environment would have timing gates setup where people can do the shot that he sprints had. We didn't get timings against them when we training athlete for example in be giving him ten runs sometimes wanting to do ten. But the idea is that we want them to not have more than five percents discrepancy in timing between the first and last. That's why the timing gates idea so that be getting realtime feedback on that. Obviously everyone has a heart rate monitors monitoring that it's very important. The hatred marches at. Be using for them. I use a company called souto and a company called plus beat plus be in souto create a hockey variability in patrick volunteers for team anada. So they would give me a digital off at least one hundred hundred fifty meters if the plane goes one hundred and fifty meters away. I can still get his real time. and all of these devices are digitally coded through bluetooth which means that i can see exactly which athletes i'm looking at and the reason we use digital into coding is because when you use an analog coding to athletes running close to each other you getting into sierra so you actually don't know who's autrey data so you know we're looking at digital autry data's We always in an environment. We have been you analysis team rooms setup. At least game review practice footage. They can review match footage assault setup than obviously the nutrition is taken care of the diets taken carol. But that's where we start getting really excited most up. These tools is to really give make sure the kids don't have any excuses whatsoever yellow. it's super fascinating now. What about anything like blood or biomarker tasks or things that you found to be quite helpful in terms of internal biology. Are you looking at any of those parameters. Yes we do. Look at it but it's not done a day to day. Basis for the simple reason yukon keep poking professional athletes that you ching such an interesting thing a lot of up until a few years ago of the data. That bhagat was not Because you can't do muscle biopsies on elite athletes. So we taking college. Are we taking amtrak. These really good running tests on them so we rarely always had a discrepancy the data with respect to some of the data doing. I'm not poking. But one thing that i m doing any slapped on very often it's done probably once a month is lactic acid testing so i'm getting an act either on the treadmill and the bicycle looking at his heart rate variability looking at his heart trading zones and then of testing lactic acid to look where he standpoint is. So i'm trying to quantify intensity against these time for you mean where it where the anaerobic threshold is. That's a test that i used to do quite a bit when i worked with a lot of triathletes and marathoners was in and actually dr. Peter is still very into this concept of lactic acid threshold testing. He's guy who still does this quite a bit. With his his patients and his clients and essentially it's a way of addressing or analyzing metabolic efficiency at the point at which the body shifts into preferential carbohydrate utilization or begins to read regis state of lactic acid accumulation. That's occurring more quickly than the last gas can actually be be buffered or removed or converted back to glucose via something called the cori cycle. And it's a. I used to do that says myself all the time. You know. typically four minute graded test and you measure lactate levels throughout it actually give you a really really good insight into for example your your your training threshold for something like get time. Trial or hard effort can give you insight into how well you're doing improving your metabolic. Efficiency is not a lot of people talk about but pretty i think those lactate analyzers are still like at three hundred four hundred boxing. And it's it's like a like a blood glucose monitor except it's it's tracking lactate instead of glucose or say Keaton's right it's not spoken about enough. It's not done enough but the the secret. I mean the data is going to give you these inc absolutely incredible. And and that's what we're trying to do. We ultimately want to fight with the guys illogical feeling you know and that's what it's gonna let us know how hard can we push the sky and beyond the physiological ceiling israeli risk psychology. Kicks it so we need to understand you know from that physiological output threshold from when his body kicking into anaerobic zone. We know from the he's just going to be slowing down off that so we look at that particular point of intensity Against the end result of what is needed and we couldn't quantify big that gaps. And that's where science comes in. What can we do now. Are we going to push this training. I'm going push this equipment. Is it psychol- psychology. That's gonna get into close that gap what's going to close get so we need to understand where the ceiling is buses where the gold medalist and what have been close the gap with. It's fascinating. now. I also know that In terms of circadian rhythm mississippi that that tends to be whether a team traveling east to west which is less problematic or or west to east which appears to be more of an issue. That that's something that's that's always an uphill battle for executives but also high performers for athletes for teams etc. Amy mentioned things like the pillow and some of the things. You're doing the hotel room but anything you're doing regarding playing with light or other strategies in terms of circadian mississippi. So yeah you know when it comes to really traveling for the longest time our hands tied. We couldn't really do anything isn't it goes And especially like if you take a tennis player for example removing forty a year on the tour leasing Play and sometimes you don't have the luxury of when you get a book but this is beautiful piece of technology which china explore right now would just go to numerous luma's tech which is a sleeping mask that uses flashing light and it's quite an interesting piece of research has come on university of stanford where they said that you can flash light at hundreds of second whilst depositi sleeping and it'll send a signal to the brain which really gets to wake up at that time even though the person sleeping so the lummus sleep mosques is flashing lights and you set the time that it slashed like based on where you one wake up in the time zone that you week so we are definitely trying things like that we using things like that we use a lot of compression garments when travelling to try to make sure that the but i think with respect to psyche rhythm as i try to get my act needs to fast lane's because i found that and just expedience it's actually a digestion the kind of knocks you out of sync more than anything else in another play you. What time zone are you eating you. They would love your meal and aloft. The plane takes irrespective of what time that intakes you and your entire big katie is actually win. Your digestion starts to win it stop. So it's the meals on the plane. The dockyard seem more than anything. So i tried to ask athletes too fast on planes. We do a lot of hydration but this is the tech that will using try to be jet lagging subject full. Yeah i'm a huge fan of a liquid kitone esters now for flying just just because sometimes you do get hungry when you're just sitting there on a plane especially if you're not sleeping nothing else to do. Sometimes the first thing that comes to mind is to either a watch a movie or be eat or both. And i've found a couple bottles of like the the hvac or the or the keystone aid. Kitone astor's though. I mean those. Keep me from meeting on the fly. But then they also seem to shut down some of the nerve to base inflammatory pathways. That occur in response to airline radiation and things along those lines so you kind of kill two birds with one stone. But i'm a huge fan of traveling now with key tones you know anytime hop onto a plane. Typically all slam a bottle for a long haul flight will slam a bottle of a couple of hours and then drink another bottle. When i get in and those things are game changer for me when it comes to two flights. We're getting a little long in the tooth here. But i do have some other questions i wanted to ask you. You have a big focus in the book kind of outside the realm of a lot of the physical and biological things. You've been talking about on relationships like you really delve into like friends families relationships. I mean your book briefly balanced kind of walk through some of these questions that you ask the people that you're working with. Why do you have such a focus on relationships when it comes to optimizing the environment of a high performer. So the reason i focus relationships is because you know. Expedients has taught me that it's Should between the athletes in the coach the train that actually makes Wise it and i'll give you a few reasons. One is that. I am the person to accurately seen last before he goes into competition under busni sees perspective. How that resolve this happened so these one all good is lost Blessing but that relationship is super. I also learned something really interesting about that. The better athlete is the holiday distribution model comfort zone. Because he could be sitting in his top is on and still performing so well he would be others but the point is that that is not sustainable so wrong. Pdf time we need to get him out of that comfort zone so more important than knowing who you are. It's important to know the type of person that can actually push you out of your comfort zone. So that is something Focus a lot on. Gay people to understand would aaagh by ultimate. Get them to understand the type of person that's needed in To help them get the best would end to talk of the the central government theory. He talked up. The brain can actually slow the body down. Now if your brain starring body to slow down. What is the external factor. That's getting you to reset that entire wiry. That's the relationship coach. Somebody who's dead and telling you listen what that. Something's you to slow down a new very far from performing at your physiological limits coach's ability to really push at that point. So i spend a lotta time really understanding relationships because for me relationships on the secret to everything if you're looking at team sports. The dynamic in the change room is it's the respecting technically the dignity on establishing day. Look at the look export. Then you sitting across from your opponent ten minutes before you can go and compete standing dynamic in the understanding the psychology having. Somebody is sitting next to you. Who can help you cob away. Cut away that ten chin makes all the difference so understanding relationship is critical and i spent a lot of time in these layers because and seen it so many times win win a profession that the ghost through something a disastrous of traumatic in life performance drops. By dressy looking. What happened to you know. Roger federal not dramatic but the butler is children ships. He's psychology you look at tiger woods. What happens to you didn't have any happy. Something big happen. It's something that. I never really appreciated. And for i mean gosh over a decade. I coached and worked with clients and i felt as though i was being intrusive by asking questions about family. Life relationship with spouse relationship with children even relationship with self and spiritual habits. You know it was a few years ago when actually for my intake questionnaires for a lot of the exact same clients that i work with. I actually began to ask those probing questions and i would find that that really the people who did not have optimized relationships and personal environments when it came to their wife or their husband their children friendships in the local community etc. These are often the people who seem to have the most struggles with things like Issues sleep issues performance issues and when i began asking those questions. Ali people not not push back you know but but a lot of times. It wound up opening up some interesting discussions when i begin to work with clients in terms of just getting to know what's going on on the home front or with relationships or co workers. And it's something that i'm still shocked more personal trainers more physicians. More performance coaches aren't finding out what's going on kind of on the home front so to speak. You know what i'm saying. I actually agree it and you know attend two things. One is that you know when you look at a professional athlete. I keep playing to this said. An athlete works into mental states. One mental state is to be so confident is actually bordering on isn't because if he has anything but but that the chances of winning slip do not you can't you can't expect him to walk into a field thinking anything but he's the best if he's got any chance of winning but then the next mental state is a state of humanity because humanity is the foundation of learning. He needs to drink only as good as my last performance. What can learn from the. What can i love from everyone in my ecosystem now. Who is the person that's moving that act leat between that state of arrogance and that state of humanity that's the coach and that's entirely dependent on that relationship ship and what you said is so important that reminded me of something that comes Science ready literature talks off. Chronic diseases can enter the body through one of two ways. Either through your mouth which is by the food you eat or what you drink or the second is a disease can into the body through the brain and they referred to that by the quality of your thoughts. What are you thinking. And the brain and the quality of thoughts is standing from unhealthy relationships. So it's exactly what you're saying. It's that you're lewin eating on an unhealthy relationship. You ruminating on it. A potential areas of conflict with a certain relationship. And now that as into the body through the brain and he's going to manifest innocent log in your body and and that science is german new medicine where they studied the psychic route or diseases that into the body to gray. It's absolutely fascinating and something that i think. More people should take into account now with with as much on the cutting edge. You are of a lot of these things. Is there anything that you're excited about. When it comes to the future of of either technology or supplementation or diet or biology or bio mechanics or any other development when it comes to to particularly enhancing one's performance and one's recovery Whether in the room of athletics or optimization for executive function etc. You've talked about some things on the show before that. I think a lot of people might have been familiar with like you know doing sound level meter apps and something like these smart sleep masks that emit certain amounts of light it's cetera is there. Is there anything else that you you kind of. Have your eye on as far as exciting upcoming things. I'm super excited about the next decade of the next two decades. The reason i'm excited about it is because we see massive ships in human physiology. And the reason i'm saying this is because if you look at sport over the last hundred years most of the environment's ready seen obviously we've seen great athletes but we've seen a lot of advancement in technology you know it's better apps it's better trading Deeper pools For equipment all of those things in heaven moves thoughtful quite considerably and the reason that happened was because we didn't have the possibility of understand human physiology in a noninvasive week at we couldn't but now we've moving into a realm into an area where we can start understanding for example. Simple thing like muscle fiber type. You know there's a technology which is called a proton magnetic resident spectrometer spectrometer which looks at muscle Caution and that will literally tell us what a muscle fiber titles like. This was unavailable to so. I'm super excited about how we can stop chesting human physiology and helga Moving physiology phone by the way that is that muscle fiber typing is that muscle fiber typing a genetic test notes. Not genetic test. Because you know you can't do. Gene tasks energy test will tell you what you predisposed to tell you. Act on your ace. what were you predisposed to. The is somewhat relation between these two packs and remember it's your training that create ecosystem for this to be active so even though you may be predisposed to have a certain type of fiber it's going to be the second type of trading actually unit creek the ecosystems allow the g. to express that but whether that gene is expressed not comes in through this non invasive test that we now have because if you look at genes only what you looking at his innate potential we have no idea whether that in a potentially stacked. This is why we need a testing ending. The would sports. We try to take testing from what was predominantly in the lab to now being on the field. And that's why. I'm super excited. You know if you having a look act up the the physiology of active deal yet. There's an interesting statistic you know. The difference between the first and fox position in an olympic event is about point five percent. And if you look at the hundred meter final that's two or three hundred zero the second which is probably the blink of an eye and we know that top athletes really physiologically civilized. We always thought that the difference is going to be psychological and we operated on that so for the next two decades. I think we can challenge. We can challenge with that. Difference is only psychologically dead. Would they just stay ability to receive pressure or absorb pressure in high pressure situation. Or is it actually physiologically different. And how can we top that. So unsupervised about that. End up with respect to certain technologies that we use. I think i can move forward by quite nicely. I encourage people to do is look at sweating analysis. I do a lot of things with sweat. analysis We move into an exciting. Anna of customized Supplementation personalized nutrition customize understanding of the body with eight three at microbiome. Whether it's through your sweat analysis I use a beautiful D'amato gimmicks tests which incidentally maps your fingerprints to the cortex is off your brain nicholas when a child is in the womb. The fingerprints in the brain developed at the same rate on an interesting way inch do that. So when you do x tests you can understand which cortex of your brain has the fastest process. So you understand that inflammation traveling in the best possible you can approach this processes through that. You don't want to have all of this information place. It's great canvas gets thrown out white in terms of how you talk to actually time. You understand how you push them. Psychologically what they will take tougher. All so i am very excited about with his eulogies. Been a move in the next decade to wa. That dramatics affects multiple intelligence tests using the fingertip analysis that you just referred to is something i've thought about in the past just because i've i've been exposed to iraqi at certain points in which of i've had my irises analyzed with with a very high resolution camera and the and there's actually quite a bit of science behind the analysis of the irs and its correlation to two different organ functions. And i've always thought i'm like a. What is it that we can be told by our fingerprints and our fingertips similar to our genetics that we just haven't even tapped into so that's that's interesting. I've never actually taking a deep dive into that myself. But a i will hunt down some information on on dramatic olympics and put that into the show notes for those of you who are interested and then also you listed off a lot of stuff there schimmel and if if you would like i would invite you to if if you have a chance at some point maybe in the next week or so before. This podcast is released if you want to To write me an email with links to anything that that you have listed as things that you find exciting or different resources that you found to be helpful. I will definitely include those in the show notes. Because sometimes i can't write fast enough to keep up with with what my guests are saying. But if you if you shoot me an email. I can certainly add all of this and of course those you're listening in i've been taking lots of notes and all add as many as i can. Those are going to all be ben. Greenfield fitness dot com slash schimmel s. h. a. Y. a. All what are the chances you might feel the email few weeks for folks. Though schimmel. I definitely send across. I have a lot of my notes. Yup and i'll send you links and generally get across all the listens. Oh amazing amazing well. We've only scratched the surface of what you talk about in your book which i'm kind of glad for because obviously people can read your book but then everything we've just talked about includes things not in the book and so so. Get the book if you enjoyed a little insight into the mind of jamal and You may see more of shimon together because we're talking about a few different projects. And i'm gonna eventually once once all these cove restrictions are removed. Get back over there to india. Because i met so many interesting people but know when it comes to to To high in performance. Gosh you you. You were just a wealth of knowledge and i. I really enjoyed meeting you and hanging out with shimon. Also so thanks for doing what you do and and for for being willing to come on the show and cheryl this stuff with us. You saw at traveling needs. It's always exciting. Remember we had some fascinating chapter in mumbai and we're looking forward to hosting again so yes another trip out. Have some guan cuisine i would. I would totally be game to punish some more. Uh some more indian west coast food so anytime. We're pulling up and building up to the bar to talk shop over seafood and coconuts and vegetables. I'm game so yeah we'll make it happen And so anyways for those of you. Listening in a ben greenfield fitness dot com slash schimmel s. h. a. y. a. m. a. l. is where you can access all the show notes. His book breathe. Believe balance is available on amazon or wherever. Fine books are found. And thank you for listening. In until next time i'm ben greenfield and schimmel signing out from ben greenfield fitness dot com having amazing week. Thanks for listening to today's show. You can grab all the show notes resources. 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