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Episode 75: COVID-19 Healthcare Breakthroughs - Clinical Trials Hydroxycholorquine

Newt's World

31:47 min | 1 year ago

Episode 75: COVID-19 Healthcare Breakthroughs - Clinical Trials Hydroxycholorquine

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Hi, this is new because of the Crowbars I'm currently staying at home in Rome. Where my wife serves as United States ambassador to the Holy See. She's leading the embassy in dealing with all the different changes being brought about by the pandemic. To bring you this episode this week I'm recording from my home, so you may notice a difference in audio quality. On this episode of Episodes fourth in a series of we're presented with Kobe nineteen out there breakthroughs. We're looking at treatments for covid nineteen. The will help improve patient. Hydroxy chloroquine. Drug, which was originally though to treat malaria. And President. Trump has talked to us us retreating Kobe nineteen fact the patients. While some warnings of an issue about the efficacy of I'd Roxie Laura. Until the. Warnings to bill on early observations of patience and not based on that, it was supervised clinical trials, Sanford health based in Sioux Falls South Dakota just became the first of the a comprehensive clinical trial associating the anti-malaria. Drugs or one to understand its role in treating and potentially prevent code nineteen. I'm pleased to welcome my guest. Dr seuss President Research Innovation for Sanford off. Dr Bruce you are the president research percent for health. Tell me how you sharp Lucille. Very, fortunate to be the president of free such aired Sanford health eleven years ago Sabbath, how did not have a research on, and they took the boat move as a health system to establish a research on what we've done over that period of time, it is noted extra of entry such a lot of preclinical research with respect to Sidon areas that we have specific interests in Indiana trix for example on Diabetes Regenerative Madison. Read Diseases and of course. With Kobe we have a strong background in launching vaccine clinical trials, but we have a very strong infectious disease group, so by role in that period of time is really being to build research that is patient orientated as a health system. We once have good rigorous recess, but Sani something that truly just go from the bench to the bedside. Despite what we're going through right now. In terms of the impact, the covid nineteen is having on a lot of individuals that really fence while Ahmed Liz about in terms of taking a rigorous approach of how can we do the best frustrations? Diagnosed this. Sanford health is the largest provider of rural health healthcare in the entire country. How do you think that changes how you think about dealing with something like a pandemic? Has Changed Our thinking, but it hasn't changed thinking off. Footprint is over the square. The models of Texas so video visits and Telehealth is something that so embedded in the way we view and treat patients as of today, people AC- because of shelter on the individuals having so if they getting a or symptoms, potentially thinking they have covid nineteen disease right now. The video visits the. We've embedded really ramped off the able for us to truly effectively looking whether people should come in to be seeing. Maybe it's a preliminary diagnosis through that methodology. Stanford. I began to notice Kobe nineteen. Office covid nineteen patients at the beginning of April. We will watch the world as everybody was watching the nation, as they were developing nine full well that we would be getting office patients, so we'd be prepared very much in terms of the fact that we've had a lot of preparation place for even office diagnosed station. What were your primary sources of information in order to get ready? Since you did have about six weeks of events warning I think following the CDC guidelines is very important in preparation out. Physicians are administration where communicating while the health systems across the nation particularly came to PP. We knew exactly what we need to prepare. All the types of numbers that we would go into half. We started going in the modeling in place. Physicians obviously trained across the nation and have been able to communicate with positions around the nation's. M's of how can preparedness of Asians should should be ready. As you began to get patients. You had one significant industrial outbreak. The meat processing plant in Sioux falls to concentrate. In one plant in the families associated with that plan. That did you take any lessons out that experience what we have to remember as Covid? Nineteen is a disease, and despite the fact that we were prepared, some little is known about the natural history of the disease, anecdotally knowing that some individuals that who covid nineteen policy take a couple of Tylenol, and they made a sleep for a couple of days with fever and. All the way through to some individuals or they have a move end up on a ventilator. These many people dying from this so what we did this basically put together a registry, so we already so every patient that touches says that now the option to be in a recess registry, so we can track the disease across the playthrough. All of the different individuals inhabits actually affecting them, and that's really going to help the natural history, so we can have a greater understanding of the love of course comes from leading from las happening in other systems for example at some point, someone said well. Let's just flip the patients onto that stomach, and that was having a much better outcome with respect to the your spiritual distress syndrome when. By following all patients through this red, sea that that can make a greater contribution to understanding not just the basis of the disease for the treatment of the disease. Hopefully make a bigger impact on operations, so in that sense, you gradually build a. Unique set of knowledge. Because as I understand that you also the advantage that your patients tend to be geographically stable. As compared to a big city where they might be moving constantly. As I understand it. You're launching pretty large study. You're doing it within the right scientific model with a randomized placebo control group, so you'll be able to tell whether there's significant difference in the outcomes for the to populate. Take a trial on the scale. That's a great question. So the first that about is, we intend to follow the patients soup basically been diagnosed in whatever treatment. Had respect. Nineteen weekend followed them for five years. This virus is planning avenue impact on People's health, treatment and recovery. We need twelve the stand that that, of course with the different treatments, obviously following the those individuals is very important switch into the second pot hydroxy chloride early on in this, and was really thrown out that as a potential treatment for covid nineteen, because it was already known what it does is the ashy elevates the PH in alkalis. In our sows, and that actually prevents viruses for match, the entering the cells, so that was already known potentially as mechanism. We don't know the natural history of this disease. Science is really being rushed right now. I, don't believe in the history of mankind in the space of water. Six months we've been in a figure figured out of the whole basis of natural history of disease, and that's important, because whether it's the right time to use drugs. He car quit as a potential treatment. We believed potentially could be blocked during from the cells of this drug than it has the potential to stop the spread of the virus. If you are in fact, but I think the study, the sweet fellow was in Poland based on what we airing was his. Could you be prophylactic with this particular trump Christy nine mark help Akira supply of the Hydroxy Clark Win and what we're doing is enroll in two thousand individuals across the State of south, Dakota, working move. Around health system, but the house systems and individuals that are high rates, a high risk of respect to the most severe form of the disease in terms of the health by marriage, but also healthcare workers, so there is a potential exposure to curb in nineteen we. Then consenting individuals in explaining exactly what this research study is making sure that they totally appropriate to receive Hydroxy Clark when they're gonNA be randomized taking a dosage of Hydroxy Clark. The five days period off to that exposure, and then we will see whether that helps prevent disease developing on the basis the COVID nineteen virus if you've been taking this drug has decreased to end the cells than because the infection and then the rest of the disease. Let me, make sure I understand. You are actually testing out the theory that. Once. We know the you have been infected, but before. You have any particular symptoms. If we could intervene with this drug, it might actually. The rise of the symptoms. And, so that's why it's a prophylactic, so it's not a therapy once you're sir. Actually therapy to block the sickness in advance by blocking the ability of the virus to penetrate into yourself system by the heightened level the city. Is that close dads absolutely right and if you think about it, that's exactly why if you take hydroxy chloroquine is a prophylactic. If you're going to countries where malaria is prevalent, so you're going to be exposed to malaria than you take of this drug, and it prevents the ariside plasmodium in that particular case. If you that disease, so you're absolutely right. If you're exposed to nineteen, this trial will randomize you so some people will be getting hydroxy. Clark. People not. Getting, Hydroxy Kirkman so. We can combat if you were taking an were exposed whether you're less likely to develop the disease. My name is Shirley Wells. This is the story of my son Courtney. Colon. Two Thousand Fifteen is the biggest here of my life you as a ladies, men even with Auntie and his grandmother I'm chance. The rapper Cornucopia was a good friend of mine in twenty sixteen. He wound up with bullet in his back outside Chicago police station twenty five hundred ever. mcavoy granted federal just said he was shot. And it's the story of my search for the truth. This is somebody a CO production of visible institute. The inner south and Topic Studios in association with ten foot TV. Available now. This is somebody's Chai. Somebody deserves to know what happened. To know what happened to my son. Listen to somebody on the iheartradio APP, apple podcasts are wherever you get your podcasts. Soon do you hope to have the two thousand people lined up when it comes to clinical research, obviously recruiting individuals, way will be launching. This trial was taking a little bit of time. It's just lying out the recruitment strategy, and that's in terms of getting the information to the right people, and then really getting the FAQ's out. Because obviously, there's been a lot of press hydroxy win in terms of water cannon, com do so. We make sure we wanted to get our educational license together that working with the fact that this the three largest health systems in south. Dakota doing this, I would recruiters two thousand people in the month of May. Partly I think because the president mentioned it hydroxy clerk when? Got To be pretty controversial all the way from. Yes, you should use it to. No. You should never use it I gather that. Is General Agreement that we need some kind of large scale study to begin to get a sense of accurately. What disaffected! Somebody confused them. Think that the FDA said. You shouldn't use it without a doctor to the FDA and issue, also the nationalist sheet of health put out guidelines, which is basically don't take hydroxy Clark unless you really are under a clinical trial. Setting all whether physician is recommending that you take this, so in terms of prophylaxis oversee that would be a clinical trial, and then obviously, if the prescribing physician will be able to speak to the individuals about what affects the the drought could have but I think that guest the logic point in terms of the information out that some people say why we doing this. Obviously, it's the right thing to do for patients. That's what we do. At Sanford! The question is I, think. A lot of people wanted to answer this question and I think we can answer this question very rapidly with the design of put together I think. America deserves lasser on this. The opposition's Maguire announced on this drug. They are the front line right now. Opposition providing this information for them, so they truly know what to do that. Without being overly optimistic. When do you think you'll probably have your first substantial insights into the ECHINACEA? The drug one of the things that we're touting about study is the scientific rigor that we're bringing to the city's a controlled clinical trial. Like trial when you be certain milestones in recruitment, you can start doing interim analysis for example. Patients will be getting a prescription a five day course hydroxy Clark win and we will be following them through that period of time after two full weeks we will start getting an indication, but the investigators will be blinded as. Has Dr Anne. Who does not after because otherwise you create analytical bias with respect that, so whilst I would say mystically if we have two thousand recruited by the end of May. If you think through the time line, there is Ami able by the end of May would have actually been through that goal so drugs when you've had fifty percent recruitment you can do. Interim Analysis and stopped taking a look at the data of respect to that so i. hope that the results from originated analysis would be something we could look at probably by the end. Lay It all goes well. What are the ethical rules so I'm out here and. I'm getting the Placebo or I'm getting the drug to what extent is at a challenge because. If it does were government group that didn't get the thing that worked. Clinical trial is an increase auctions. So this is the opportunity. If you've been exposed to covid nineteen to receive a treatment, if you receive Placebo An. If you develop disease, obviously, you will seek treatment from your physician, and then you will be given typical standard of cat and treated for the disease. It does not mean that you're not going to be treated like any other individual or any other issue that has covid nineteen. Once you doing is essentially helping us on everybody. The question is the prophylactic use. Chloroquine benefit with respect to this disease. People talk about the potential second way coming in the fall. which I guess often happens with viruses. From your perspective looking at all the research being done. Do you have essentially going to be a lot better prepared by September than we are now absolutely. I think the other part of walk we been actively. Participating in is in. This gets to how I was describing. This is a disease in terms of some people end up with acute respiratory distress syndrome. We've been exploring a number of trials and actually treat A. Connected to events lays right now. Potential treatment options up at than they wear a few months ago, so we will be better prepared for that and then hydroxy chloroquine. Out To some sort of prophylaxis than obviously the second way is coming. We know that the lodge ovulation that are explain exposed than they could be prescribed. This is a way of avoiding developing the full-blown Disease of course Odyssey testing is ramping up, but the most important testing for that will be the antibody test individuals that have actually been infected in May. Not have known that they had the disease paying more and more about not just individuals who have mild disease for their ICS matic naturally led to the spread of this so obviously if we can track individuals that are Austin and have positive that oldest help in terms of really making sure the right people get some sort of prophylactic, treatment. Corona chaos, political posturing and the fate of an election dominate the national conversation. At least the one we're having the appropriate social distance that is so stay safe and listening weekly as politicains. How the heck are we going to get along finds the answers to your most important questions and put our social and political leaders to the test if they can pass it. I'm host. Clay Aitken and on this podcast. 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If you've been infected for you to have secondary infection that same virus that said was still leading out over nineteen, in terms of maybe adapting doesn't have a huge mutation rate. The does have some novel ways of how it behaves in the cells. Cells was still learning with respect to that I think the other part is the testing. It's still very involved. Individuals that are still positive recovered maybe developing other since -nology through a secondary viral infection. It's not unusual I call for example during the cold season am when they have the citizens again a month later after recovering, it's quite awful. covid nineteen is still there in a light wave, but not actually causing the underlying new symptoms when you're putting together a two thousand persons study. Given this particular Greg, are there parts of the population? The deliberately excluding I know for example a lot of talk about cardiac risks when using this particular drug. Oppositions of put together a school, which is basically in terms of the susceptibilities that you may have. We know from what we're hearing is more with obesity either liquor -demia contention, type, two diabetes and cardiac issues, a definitely gonNA be risks, cardiac issues particularly with hydroxy correct, so any individual at risk consented into this study sets with a physician is consented into the study, so we can make sure that we're not going to put patients at risk. So. Some reasonably certain that you go see your doctor before you randomly try to use this because it does have potentially dangerous side effects for people who have certain medical conditions. There'd be a fair way to put it. That's pretty by the FDA guidelines and why we build this into the clinical trial is straining individuals that potentially could have side effects in his well. We won't go going, so we're going to recruit individuals that were to will not have a side effect from the hydroxy. Clarkson one other topic I'm picking up from a lot of US administrators that since we are not in fact, faced with a crisis of available, I see units anticipated. Facial crisis of available beds that for the economic health of the hospitals and the return to normal medical treatments around the country that most states shouldn't fact pull back from the various executive orders, the told hospitals to basically keep their rooms clear. In case there was a gigantic surge which even New York because some extra hospital beds and turns out. We never came close to the number of beds were available from your perspective using. It's important that we find a way to go back to normal business in that sense and allow people in most states almost as a huge surge to allow people most days to go back to regular medical procedures. Normal relationships in the hospitals. I think that's a great question I think now we've gone to that point and I think we had to be measured with that consideration early on, because which is one sure what level and impact in terms of the needs to the hospitals. We're going to be required for this. I think that covid nineteen hasn't affected. The people still need healthcare. People still need medical procedures right now I think a health system like us. We have tremendous organization. Organization here is is to be prepared fallout, so we know that still going to be Kobe nineteen patients that so let's make sure we can do both. Let's shall we can treat the covid nineteen patients as when Cummings while system, but also provide regular day today, healthcare and procedures, and as long as we manage that effectively. Let's assume that the health system is the best individuals to manage that in terms of what's required if we have enough. To take care of our Kobe patients at any potential spikes will searches are anticipated as well as we still can have the ability to do medical procedures that we should go forward and do both of those. From your perspective. You know of anywhere that. Sanford came anywhere close to running out of intensive care units running out of bed space because of the virus who was always in effect surplus available if needed. That was always a surplus of lead. 'cause, that's what strikes me as I understand in retrospect. When they had those very early. Projections. Why they would have been worried, but with the exception, maybe of New Orleans and Detroit in New, York, I'm not sure anywhere ever came close to capacity. We were very fortunate because we had time to prepare. The models obviously had it that we were going to have significantly more patients than we've had, but we were able to prepare. All is us south and also I think we've led from others as well and boss. Clearly, social distancing is a huge impact on decreasing the number of patients given the many years. You've been studying these things. In one way is, is this new virus really different and always is just another variation on the flu the difference this virus was extremely ineffective I mean is very contagious and it is very stable as well so the fat has the ability to really. To what we go community spread undetected so quickly, I think is the best novelty is because often. Viruses are very unstable surfaces. For example. There was a lot of concern about. A number of years ago, but is very unstable, doesn't really survive outside of human tissues whereas Corona Virus Flynn Canon it can actually stay stay low surfaces. It's just the tabletop. Dole handle for several hours, so that's really made this particularly unique, and that's just added to his ability to infect people. When you look at the patient, experience you all of that at Sanford, are there any particular side effects of this virus that make it different than other viruses rather than just more attention? I think there's a little bit league society with respects that and that takes stacks of the registry that when we feel the right thing for us, do is not just monitor patients in the real time and treat them in the real time for this particular infection in the symptoms of the disease, but also. Also to follow them over era of time, it's quite obvious I, mean looking at the mortality rates that we're seeing across the world right now. I think it's clear that this will have a long-term effect attention. The health of individuals Africa were they may have survived the virus, but obviously is virus insult, some of the of the very severely and I think it makes sense for us to be able to track that, and then a time I'll give you a much better awesome that question. Do you agree that it'd be? Why, to assume the, we have to prepare for a possible resurgence in the fall, and the we should. Make, whatever investments need now in order to be prepared as possible to stop virus tracks if it starts to reemerge in September October November. Every virus whether it's a cold or the flu cycles through different periods of time, and there's no reason to believe that some corona virus is GonNa go away anyway. We can sort of overanalyze differ meshes of the happening now in terms of whether it's weather whether it's social distancing, or whatever the still will be a retention of this virus. Down and there will be the tangible for it to come back, but I do think we've learned a lot about how maybe there could be some prophylactic treatment rapidly, pretending social distancing the antibody testing will help us track the virus those. Fact the a token of course is that we are in the movie of Axiom, hopefully earliest beginning of next year. Whether lbs like we've seen the dust Iran I think we've led to much for that to happen, but the probably is a risk of virus will come back to us the degree to this ship. I just wanted to say that entirely tremendous a you take the time delve, educate people, and that I think that. You're doing at Sanford is going to be both nationally, and internationally really important, and I appreciate very much. You take some time out of extraordinarily busy day just to share with our audience. While thank you this privileged to work for an organization that puts patients in front of everything that a he wants to do. To my doctor David Pierce you can read more about Santa Claus Hydroxy chloroquine, clinical trial and healthcare breakthroughs Kobe, nineteen on our show. Neutral. Ritual is produced by Gingrich through sixty and iheartradio. On executive producer is GONNA. Be Myers and our producers slim. The our work for the show. Created by Steve. Special backs the team since. 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Lisa McFadden, PhD- Director of Engineering & Applied Science at Sanford Health

Moving2Live

42:31 min | 7 months ago

Lisa McFadden, PhD- Director of Engineering & Applied Science at Sanford Health

"Moving to live is a podcast about movement and exercise would bring you interviews with professionals in the movement and exercise field. Goal is to provide information for other professionals and also amateur movement Aficionados people who understand that movement is part of what makes life complete. Some of the people we interview you will have heard of. Their well known in and outside of the movement exercise profession others, you may not have heard of, but they have a great deal of knowledge to share. Many people doing the best work spend their time working with people not working on their social media presence. We're going to give you a chance to learn from some of these talented and knowledgeable individuals and we're going to learn along with you moving to live podcast going to be short. He interview will be long enough to impart usable information but short enough to be able to be consumed in a single out. During your workout commute or even during dinner prep. We all like long-form interviews but time is valuable moving to live wants to give you the option to learn and be entertained without needing to commit sixty minutes at a time for an interview. Give moving to listen check out our PODCAST FIT lot PG H. which highlights people, businesses, events and activities in the Pittsburgh Pennsylvania area that make movement a priority moving to live with love to hear from you. Want to connect with us or have an idea for somebody. You think we ought to interview crops, email ammo v number two, L. I. V. AT G Mail Dot. com or connect with us on instagram and twitter both underscore emo v number two L.. I. V.. For excited to bring you these interviews and we think you'll enjoy each and everyone that we bring you. Welcome back to another edition of moving to live our ethos movement is a lifestyle notches activity. We tried to interview professionals across the movement spectrum because we understand at the end of the day, anybody who is involved in movement either wants their clients patients or athletes to either move more or move better whether it's to move with less pain or to move more efficiently. Some of our best guests come from recommendations from other guests and a big. Thank you to Andy Gillam who recommended today's guest Lisa McFadden they arresting thing with podcasting is i. now have lineage of three people in a row starting with Brian Gary To. To Doctrine McFadden today hopefully two or three more as far as I can trace it's not who you know is who you know who knows somebody. So Dr McFadden thank you for taking time to talk to moving to live this afternoon. Absolutely thank you for having me. My favorite question I always ask on moving deliver the first one I. Always ask is to get an elevator. You get to talking because the elevators really slow because somebody's pressing all the buttons and they say, so what do you do what your thirty second? Not In a negative way elevator spiel my name is Lisa McFadden and I. I'll man and this one's a Turkey one I wear lots of different hats But yeah so. The way I look at what I do is I really put science into practice whether it's with athletes or with patients and Meyer expertise is in bio mechanics. So I like to used by mechanics to help people move better and then I also liked to inspire whether that's inspiring communities around science or whether that's inspiring. Students through mentorship in education. Right. Now, if I'm correct your in South Dakota. Yes that's correct. I work at Stanford Health See Falls South Dakota. And I know we were chatting a little bit before we started recording and both of us grew up in upstate new. York and I have to be honest I never thought I would end up in Pittsburgh. Pennsylvania, I never thought I would go to Grad School in Alabama and I would imagine that there's an interesting story going all the way from New York state with multiple stops all the way to South Dakota and I would imagine if you're anybody else like anybody else in the movement field is probably a few more stops along the way before you retire. Well, it's funny. I almost ended up in Pittsburgh. Along my way and I've spent some time in Alabama on a couple of different business trip. So it sounds like we've got a similar. Set of journeys But yes I I grew up in upstate New York in a little town called the sweet go not quite as little as where I heard you up. But? Yes. So I grew up on Lake Ontario My Dad was a doctor in I. Always always wanted to be a doctor specifically pediatric Orthopedic Surgeon, and my dad always told me no, you do not He said you really WanNa be an engineer and I said, no, No, no dad engineers are big nerds. And he said you're really good at math and you you have passion for this and I. Really suggest you become an engineer. So I very boldly went to the University of Rochester Pre and applied math saying you're wrong dad. But you know had a had a moment of clarity probably after my first year I did realize and did some self reflection and thought you know the type of. Mother that I wanted to be in the type of you don't grown up that I wanted to be really do not not focus around having call and prioritizing patients, which is absolutely something that you have to do but really being able to have a little bit of flexibility in In my lifestyle and so I finally listen to my father after a long time of not and. decided that I would actually transfer into biomedical engineering where I ended up focusing on bio mechanics as my concentration with minors in mechanical engineering and applied math. throughout my Undergrad I really really enjoyed all of that and so as I started thinking about what was next I started getting really interested in robotics and in two that feel that was emerging back. Then decided that I really wanted to go and get a PhD in that. So I had been at ski resorts I grew up ski racing and I was in Montana with our family on vacation and watched a bunch of ski. Racers who had disabilities whether they were in a sit ski or whether they were missing leg skiing and I was just very inspired I looked at them versus like while they're amazing. They're they're better skiers than I am and then you could see that as soon as they were off the hill where they were excelling the rollout of daily life challenges. So I started getting really interested in prostates wanting to kind of help people that you needed additional help outside of. Being Super, rockstar athletes to help them in their daily lives and so robotics was sort of that pathway for me. My senior design project ended up being a surgical robot and then I ended up getting into Carnegie Mellon at the Robotics Institute which is where I almost went to Grad School and then the University of Utah in my husband and I. Boyfriend at the time looked at each other and said, we should go skiing. So, Kinda took that wildcard robotics institute was number one ended the US at the time but decided to go out to Utah where they had just one anger from the NSF in robotics, and so I was in the bio engineering department and kind of hybrid into mechanical engineering. So I really took courses and had faculty the Committee from both worlds and I was able to do there was. My my PhD was focused on spinal cord injuries and what we were working on with functional electrical stimulation, supporting an array of electrodes and putting them into the peripheral muscles, and then stimulating those and my job was to figure out what the mechanics looked like. So creating models of the limb and then creating control algorithms to figure out how we can control this limbs yet somebody to go from sitting to standing. And to do it in a way that they didn't get tired while they were standing because the way our muscles work. If you contract one all the way, you might get yourself to go into a specific movement but then that muscles eventually wanting to fatigue and you can't can't sustain it. So what does that look like as well? I know I remember when I took an adapted class. In my undergraduate degree we had a student on campus. This is a very small college Gettysburg College who had lost above the knee amputation due to bone cancer and he came in and talked to are adapted class that know seen him around campus and he played pick up basketball with but I never realized one of the things he said you can probably correct me on this by numbers are off that. He said he typically took him. Almost twice as much energy to play basketball save for forty five minutes than somebody like me who was able if that's the correct term I remember that time thinking that's just absolutely amazing. Yeah for sure I, mean, there's a lot of things that we take for granted I think and things that we probably don't understand There's definitely opportunities out there to learn and then to figure out how we can take those in improve people's lives and and help them out in one of the people who's really inspired me was. Dr Hugh Her from the He's I think he was at mit I could be incorrect. A Harvard but he was an amputee himself and has really made significant strides in the way that we look at prosthetics, ankle movement and those types of things so. I. Think There's definitely some some things that can be done and one of the things I think that's really cool when somebody who does have. A different perspective is able to leverage their perspective and advance science as well based on that. We're talking with Dr Lease McFadden I'm curious. After you switched from premed. Did your dad ever say I told you so or did you just kind of sit back with kind of a a smirk on his face as if you knew you were going to do it all along. He still tells me I told you south. I, find it interesting. I know A number of people who made the decision to go to medical school for reasons, similar to what you said and all of them either had a parents or close relatives who were physicians that I think to some extent you have the inside view you know when I go to the doctor I, see the doctor Oh that's cool. You know they're able they're able to do a a surgery on an ankle and the athlete or the person is able to return to function. You saw miss dinners all the mosquito races and things like that because your father was on call or he got called in B. Two for to do anesthesiology. Yep for sure you know and and I think that's They're still days for I. Personally Love Love Surgery Right I still do I've watched surgical shows on TV. I. Love Surgery I was very lucky that I was able to actually do a little bit of that kind of stuff in in SM animal labs when I was in Grad school as well and so I do love surgery I enjoy it, and I will say there's some days where I kind of go that would have been a lot of fun and then there's other days where I do get to do those things with my kids and be at their competitions and things like that and I go. I'm really glad I'm here. So you know I. It's definitely a personal decision as to what direction you choose, and I think also really being able to reflect upon who you are and what's important to you and really go down a path that allows you to reflect your values. And really be true to yourself and values are different. That's very legitimate and we all end up in different asset fit us very well. I think that's excellently put i. know there's often the pressure even as graduate student that depending on the lab that you're in or depending on what the other students goals are. There's kind of the pressure if you don't do this, whatever this may be then you're either lesser than the rest of us or you're not fulfilling your goal of your duty and you're describing your decision, you went through to where to pursue a doctorate and I am one hundred percent with you tick the mountains because you never know when you could when you can have the opportunity to do that. I mean they're just absolutely beautiful quality of life. But. I'm curious. From what you're describing, you would think that you would end up to no negative connotation here but a nerd in the lab pumping out research and it sounds like working at Sanford Sports Science. You do a little bit more than that. What was the decision behind that? When you finished your doctor said, you know do I wanna go hard core quote unquote nerd in the lab or do I wanna be more broad and maybe not only basic, but also applied in the direction that I used by degrees. That's a that's a great question I. think part of it is really about who I am as a person as well. So in Graduate School I was also a chair of a conference I was Graduate School Advisory Council. Chair, I was an instructor and my adviser left after my second year and I did my phd over skype for two years because he went and worked at the Australian Institute of Sport as the director of bio mechanics there, and so I ended up doing a lot of that. So I've always had somewhat of a unique experience which I think lended itself to me. Being open to those, I'm also a very social person I like helping people and So actually after Grad School, I ended up taking a job as a an engineer. At L. Communications, which is a defense contractor San Diego and I was the scientist who was diving into data and solving problems and all of those types of things But some of the skill sets that I have in terms of communication or project management organization. That I had developed in other experiences lend itself well to identifying that I'd be really good at working with our customers would be really good at putting together strategies and things like that, and so some of those those skills and natural talents lended itself to my taking on some of those roles and then really training those Al Flurry and then Sanford came looking for somebody to help lead. Our sports science initiatives are with pita research initiatives and that seemed very interesting to me, and so ended up coming here and I do I I get to like I said one of my passions inspiring or mentoring others. So I get to lead others teach residents and medical students and graduate students. Simultaneously, I get to drive strategy while also doing some of the research and work so. It sits me while I also probably have a little bit of Foam and definitely I find a lot of things to be enjoyable. So one of the things that suits me while as being able to be involved in kind of doing a bunch of different things so that I can really continue to kind of engage all the different passions I have. And I know we were talking before we started recording I. Think the listeners would be interested especially those of us who like. Less urban places in more rural places. What exactly is Sanford health. I. Think I thought that was interesting when I was doing the research after interviewing Dr Gillum and before interviewed you. Stanford health is a healthcare organization based in the DAKOTAS and Minnesota We have four major hospital healthcare, organization areas, Sioux Falls Fargo, North Dakota Bismarck North Dakota and Bemidji Minnesota with different hospital or a different medical centers scattered throughout. So what we focused on rural medicine, we create this policy called the hub and spoke method where we have bigger centers and then you start going out to smaller centres and then more rural medical. Centers are physicians do a lot of each and were able to really help provide community health care to more rural areas give them access to high quality healthcare, and then we've actually been lucky enough that We have also Sanford world clinics and we've been able to replicate this model in parts of Africa parts of China and really be able to take the way that this works provide healthcare access to a large number of people across the world. Curious with UvA based in South Dakota how much travel do you have to do to the other hubs or does telecommuting and the wonders of the Internet make that minimal? you know. It's a little bit of both. I actually probably don't travel as much as I would like to part of that is because. I had a unique situation when we moved out from. California that my husband stayed there and I brought my two young children with me and so There's there's a little bit of personal work life balance that has to go into your decision making as to how you manage across a big enterprise like this Luckily, I'm very tech savvy. So I believe in lots of face to face communication like we have right now of zoom or. skype for business and lots of visits whenever possible but it is it is difficult to be able to do things. So it's really about building a team that you trust on the ground and being able to have. Good communication with them and really understand what everyone's trying to accomplish. So the people can get their jobs done without you being there in really just making sure that people know what they're supposed to be doing and have ownership over that I'm very fortunate I have a really good team. So in general, my travel is limited because of that. And I know from looking at your bio in the questionnaire you filled out even though Sanford health is pretty good size you have been involved with other organizations that are larger This may be a loaded question it's not meant to be Do you find it's easier to do as you said, you are an individual with unique traits, unique skills, which we all have defined. It's easier to have them recognised and it makes it easier to do your job because the other people are because it's a smaller organization than some of the larger organizations or institutions you may have been involved in the past. I think that. The question you're asking actually comes down to culture A small organization can have a not great culture. A large organization can have a great culture and it's really about being a place that makes you feel home and that makes you feel valued an I've been very lucky. I've had a lot of really really good support in champions throughout my career you know. Being being in a male dominated field you sort of have to have a lot of people who support you and I've been very, very fortunate whether it was in Grad school with a lot of support from faculty across multiple departments or working at L. Three where I have a tremendous leader that I worked for when I started. There Dr Chan was was great and trained me up and then Dr Similar as well. So we really had a family there. We would play Frisbee twice a week and it was it was like being a family we have birthday parties. And everything and it was a huge organization but our our group was was very close and now here seeing inferred is the same thing we're like a family we talk to each other we have regular communication and we're really focused on what kind of culture we want to build because we wanNA make sure that we're acknowledging the special traits of everybody and That's what I've I've really appreciated about all the places I've worked is that when I go and interview I'm really looking for culture fit and I've been very fortunate to find good cultures wherever I've gone. Well, put on I'm always curious with this especially since we're in the middle of COVID. As I mentioned the beginning of the interview. Some of our best interviews come from somebody that I've interviewed in the pastor says, Hey, you need to interview this and Dr Gillam said you know you need to talk to Lisa she's. You talk about a a culture and you're somebody who's in a position with sports. Medicine example is you are the person at the top one of the People's the top. How do you work to develop a good culture versus a bad cultured? Obviously, this could be a five hour or five day conversation. But you know we we don't have five hours or five days if you were. If you were to offer somebody a suggestion or to mentor, you know a young professional who was in the leadership role. What two or three tips that somebody can really do to promote a healthy culture? In their work environment. I think the first thing is is I'll be I'll be honest like you know there's there's always going to be moments for your question. If you have a good culture, there's always going to be kind of those those valleys for your like all no one's getting along or people are grumpy or whatever and I think one of the things is not to get discouraged. To think what's going on what we stopped doing, what are what could we do better and really just keep that always keep a pulse on it. Always the what can we do better? Where is this grumpiness coming from or whatever Is it a lack of communication as at a lack of those those appreciation moments what are those things I think the other is to just really get to know your staff and gets know how they feel appreciated get to know You know how to communicate with them. Cascading communication is incredibly important One of the series one of the authors I've learned a lot from over the last year has been Patrick Schone I've read a lot of his books and I think I would encourage any new leader to read five dysfunctions of a team to be honest. It's one of the most difficult things is to try to build a culture. I'm still definitely not saying I'm an expert, but how you build trust and accountability and honesty and openness, and all of those things across the team is really important and something that I'm even revisiting right now I think the last thing I would share just become comfortable with being uncomfortable That's that's the hardest thing for me. I've taken a lot of personality tests in one of the things that I am is an achiever from the Graham and I'm an achiever helper enthusiasts. Those three things really define me. But as an achiever, it's really difficult to be uncomfortable because you like to collect your gold stars and I think that's one of the things that I've learned is, how do you become comfortable with being uncomfortable with challenging other people challenging yourself because project onto others to if I have to have a difficult How they're feeling and that makes me even more uncomfortable. I guess Italy me to my last point which I lied last but self reflections important in really getting to know yourself. That's I think AAA important as well. Because if you can't, you can't have these awareness moments like I'm talking about where I understand my personality in there for how that influences my interactions with other people. Think one of the best pieces of advice that was given to me. By one of the people in my doctoral committee was you're always going to have a list of things to do. You're never going to check them all off the sooner you accept that the better. And I'll admit it took me probably fifteen years to realize. Oh, Pete was right. As it as a as a leader or somebody who's in a leadership position with tips in these ideas I think you find some people. Who are gold star collectors kind of always self assess what can I do better? Wise. This a jerk. Why does this person do well, but other people don't end the things that you're asking. Sometimes have to take place. You're not going to say, okay, we have two hours today for you to do this how you encourage the people that you work with both at the same level as you and also in some cases above and below you to hey, this is the step because it's not just doctrine fat and saying for the people under me the way we do it, it's it's a give and take sometimes I know you'll say, wow, I really missed it on that one and I'm glad somebody was comfortable enough to tell me. So how do you convince people to take the time for these self reflections? Good question. That's actually. Something that I'm continually working on trying to figure out and one of the things that I've been doing recently is is having so. Doctors have eminem right? They have morbidity morbidity and Mortality Conferences pilots. So I am actually private pilots a lot of insight into the the aviation world as well, and if there's ever an accident pilots dive into that, right whether you know it was a simple hangar rash accident for you Kinda just. Dented, you're playing on the hanger. Everyone's supposed to go back and say, okay, I reflect on this. What did we do? Wrong where can we do better and so we've been starting to implement what I call lessons learned whether it's a quick email from everybody who participated in something just saying, okay. Let's talk about what we did really well, and let's talk about where we could have improved or if it's something that's a little bit more complicated getting everybody together and having a more difficult discussion you know something a little bit sideways. How do we get together and talk about that? The other thing we're trying to do is Kind of be more proactive as well. So like with our bio mechanics team were really starting. We're actually GONNA start having a bio mechanics, grand rounds and really start saying okay. Let's start learning from each other. Let's actually present on what we're doing and open it up to comments and those types of things and I know one of your specific areas as well as how'd you take break these silos in one of the things about the silos is that? y'All speak a different language and there's a little bit of ego that comes into it as well. Right I mean you end up with a lot of people who are experts in their fields trying to talk about something that's very much related to their field but I'll talk about a differently and they all see it a little bit differently we all. Bring in our own perceptions and our biases in our expertise that all kind of can cause people to to butt heads and so one of the things we're always trying to work on as well as hearing other people and challenging other people respectfully and professionally because we can challenge ourselves and learn from those other viewpoints, really improve the way that we think. No you and I were talking about podcasts before reporting you mentioned your husband likes to listen actually watched Joe Rogan and I've talked to another number of people about Joe Rogan whether you like him were. You don't like him I think one of the things that he does best when he has some of these experts or genius Elon Musk on there is he's not afraid to say, I. Don't know what you're talking about. Can you simplify that? And I know and I'm sure you. You also had similar experiences. There are some people that are in this field and some people who are very highly educated very smart. They're just curious I mean they they gravitate to somebody who knows something that they don't know, and then there's other people who? Are Very defensive as well. You know for example, I have a doctor. So I know everything so you can't tell me every anything if you don't have a doctor, you can't tell me anything because you only have an exercise science doctorate in physics doctored or something like that. How do you? As somebody WHO's in a leadership position? How do you convince people to open up and take other? Take other viewpoints because I know that. In some instances been in a number of situations professionally where that's encouraged and there's other instances where you do that and very quickly you realize I can't do that because it's going to affect me long-term because somebody's going to hear my comments and they may smile at you the front but the knife is starting in the bath because you stepped on their toes which. Makes for a bad culture. Yeah I mean. I'M GONNA I'M GONNA I share actually I wanNA touch base on that that doctorate piece for a second because I think one of the most impactful things that my doctor adviser did for me and said to me while I was getting ready to defend was he goes if you do not use the words I, don't know in your dissertation defense I will fail you. That's what he told me he said he said. He goes to me he says, you are getting a PhD which means people are looking at you as an expert. You do not know everything you know the tip of snowflake. and. You have to be able to know the boundaries of your knowledge and understand that other people bring in different viewpoints or you will be dangerous. and. So I think that was one of the most impactful things that he did. So actually that's the story I share with people as one of the first thing. fucking interject on that I had a similar experience I had one of the members of my committee exercise physiologists his area of expertise lactate metabolism, and we had a lactate seminar and somebody said you know, could you draw molecule of lactate up on the board because you know might help us understand these things you're talking about he went up on the board and started drawing said you know we're GonNa? Take a five minute break because I think this is correct but I wanNA check and make sure and I remember talking with a couple of my friends like nobody awhile he's an idiot it's like, wow, he's got enough confidence to say I don't know. Let me go check and I think when he said something for in subsequent years you had a tendency to take more seriously because you realize he wasn't. Trying to say I know everything. Right and I think those are important things and I don't know when you were defending but I know I didn't have smartphones back when I was defending and so that wasn't a thing. You can just pull up quickly add to go get your book Ouden. But Yeah I mean I think that's an important thing is to to help people understand that perspective and you know my adviser helps me with Abbott really to help mentor weather it students or your staff or You know even others let's just that perspective because I think we do all have the ability to learn from each other and You know I think that's what I try to model and try to encourage in. It's really hard because you have to be able to deal with being vulnerable and that's a really difficult thing is we can't old deal with being vulnerable in front of other people and the there's a trust of about that and there's Opening yourself up to being wrong or not knowing and if you get shot down for that quickly, you're going to be less likely to do that again. So it's really just helping people to know that that's sort of expected. It's expected that you open up to that and I think too sometimes it's GonNa be having difficult conversations I remember back to one of our very first conversation. So we like to try to break down the silos. That's what we what we do and I think back to one of our first conversations with our golf instructors are physical therapists in our biomechanical engineers where we all had different definitions on what pelvic tilt what's You know some of us were thinking about it one way some western hanging about it in another way, and the golf instructors have different jargon than the physical therapists and physical therapists have a different jargon, the biomedical engineers and we set in our all arguing same point. And The two good things happen from that one is we weren't afraid to have the conversation with each other. We also weren't afraid to apologize to each other afterwards, and then now we all know from that experience that we do speak differently. So I think sometimes you do have to be willing to have that conversation and be wrong and realized that you all had a moment and kind of move on from there because sometimes that's the moment in which you actually lowered and can move forward from to actually break down those silos and have meaningful conversations. You might have to have that awkward one. Valuable words, I'm curious. Kind of along these same lines was not the way I intended the conversation to go but I I think it's great. Do you make time for those hour long meetings talking about pelvic tilt or you know the best way because typically I know in academia and in many medical professions there has to be a purpose or goal I. Mean I'm sure you remember being Grad school the opportunity to sit around and talk and have those conversations. But when you're getting paid either a salary or by the hour, you know there's a lot more difficult to say, Hey, you know. Twice a week for forty five minutes or or once every two weeks for an hour. We're GONNA do that has to be buy in all the way up had how do you create the ability to do that or was that something was there when you arrived at? Sanford. New just built on it. As a really good question. I'd have to think a little bit more than. Just quick response as to whether it was there before or whether it we've been building it. I think it's a little bit of both and. I don't remember if it was before we started recording or during this conversation that you were talking about, you know the the applied piece, right? How do we take science and we apply it and how did that happen and for us it was very intentional renew that we wanted to integrate science and testing and technology and physical therapy and golf, and all these different pieces together. We knew that we wanted to bring the experts together with the athlete in mind to really be able to help that athlete perform their best in order to do that. You can't just have each person handing off. Right. You all have to understand each other's areas and whatnot. So we really did in the beginning prioritize like about each other's areas having some of those conversations and built a program together. We golf research are golf head golf pro has always been involved in the conversations about where we're taking our research. What those research questions are. He's not a researcher, but we can't answer a question unless we know what's actually important and we researchers aren't going to know what's important without talking to the golf professional. So a lot of these conversations were not meant to be conversation say about pelvic tilt, they were meant to be conversations about programming and operations and things like that. But out of necessity, you have to be able to understand what you're talking about and luckily people were able to say I don't understand what you're saying here I don't understand what you're saying there so I think just Being a team that works together some of these conversations happen more naturally, and then you end up making the time because if you don't understand then you actually can't get to the point where you work with the athlete and help the Athlete get better and we've gotten to the point now where are three bio-mechanics testing with motion capture is an integral. Part, of our golf instruction you know in our PT's have a movement component that's an integral part of working with golfers, and so we couldn't get there without all these pieces to get us to that point. Does that make sense? It does I know one of the conversations that I can't recall when I had her who I had it with. Probably was not more like a conversation with more likely teaching to me is you know there's always the push poll that I know and what might professional organizations you know the applied people always say well, there's just too much research at this conference and the researchers always say there's too much applied stuff. And? I think very many of forget if you're saying there's too much research stuff you're in your applied silo or vice versa, and the fact is if there wasn't an applicable use, you wouldn't be able to do the more basic things the research on the other hand. If there wasn't the research, we probably would still be saying you know you lost a leg. Well, here's a wooden stick to put on your leg and good luck with getting down the Ski Hill. Absolutely and I think it's interesting because the medical communities really adopted like we need to do both right and so the sports community getting their one of the things that's been really fun has been being involved with like We're GONNA be the next host for the World Scientific Congress Golf that'll be here in Sioux falls next year and that's been really fun. because. It does bring golf instructors and scientists and technologists and coaches, and you know everybody together to really talk about those things in in an interactive format. One of the Nice things we're trying to do is typically that more classroom sessions and we're going to be having it at a top golf like facility that we have on our sports complex called great shots. And it has sixty days plus our golf academy that has all the technology in it. So not only will you be able to talk about the research that's been done but you in a golf instructor could stand there together actually swinging hitting golf balls and talking through that. Okay. I understand what you're telling me. This is the way that the hit moves how. Can I teach that? How can I q that and having those interactive moments and you know it's it's not just golf that's starting to go down that path where you see all the different professionals starting to talk to each other and facebook communities and whatnot. But baseball's on that way as well with the new American baseball bio mechanic society the doctor slicing. raised up and starting to see the MLB teams in the scientists and technology companies that everybody starting to come together and having these meetings I think cove. It's nice because a lot of these people have been moving into digital conversations and so over the summer, we've been seeing baseball and golf starting to have even a lot more interactions at the national and international levels about all of these questions and starting to just talk to each other really igniting a lot of interesting things that I think will actually change the way that all of these people talk to each other. Talking with Dr Lisa McFadden. One final question before I let you get along with your day. I think it'd be remiss in not asking this stuff. tried. Ask everybody over the last five or six months? How is your job at the way you handle your job changed since covert I know from talking to Dr Gillani, said, it hadn't hit quite as badly in South Dakota's other areas. But I know just across the country let alone the world there's been significant changes for most people if not everyone. Yeah I mean it. It's been interesting. So and it's been different throughout the entire. The entire time. So back in March when things were starting to hit, I made the decision that our whole team would move remote because we didn't know what was going on. We didn't know what was going to happen what the risk was going to be. So everybody moved to a remote A remote environment we had a lot more conversations on Microsoft teams and things like that. To keep everybody interactive we set short term goals. We didn't really know what the future was going to hold So we really focused on short-term accomplishments and that also allowed our team especially those who had children who no longer had daycare or school to be able to have a little bit more flexibility and be able to take care of their families as well as the pandemics gone on. We've been very fortunate that up until recently we were pretty stable college kids going back to school has. Not. Surprisingly driven are a lot of numbers And you know I think we're continuing to monitor the situation for me. It's really made sure that I'm much more aware of what people's risk factors are as well because some people are much more willing to say. This'll be fine I'm willing to take risk and others are much more likely to say I'm I'm really nervous I'm really hesitant and so one of the things I've been impressed from our organization as we as an organization immediately started implementing regular frequent communication talking points just the ability for us to focus on what our staff needed whether that was in the clinic or in our world what do our teams need? What do we need to be telling them? How can we keep them informed and we started what we called our facts over fear campaign. And that allowed us to push out tons of information whether it was about testing numbers are PPA supplies whatever was then we looked for a lot of feedback getting a lot of information back from our teams so that we could really understand where they had concerns, and so we have P. Dashboard. Now people are worried that we don't have enough personal protective equipment. So everyone can see how much pp we have, and that were were well-stocked and so those are the types of things that I think our organization has done as we really transition to. Focusing on our staff, communicating effectively as possible and just making sure we met their needs and we also focused on wellness in providing a lot of resources and I think for us as a healthcare organization It was how do we take care of our people and how do we take care of our communities and make sure we navigate the sufficiently and I think that's what it's all about and that's for me by my lesson is people respond really well when you focus on them and you take care of them and you take care of your community, the response is that people are are there for you as well and I think. That's been my key take home is take care of each other through this because that's the only way we're all GonNa get through this and on the other side. Rate words. We've been talking with Dr Lisa. McFadden she is the director of Engineering and applied. Science at Stanford skews Me Sanford. 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ItsMeSpkn2U Ep.102 Legacy Fighting Alliance CEO Ed Soares

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Ably both of them. Jose machida and of course if you've heard of him he's possibly considered the best to ever freak in do it anderson the spider silva. Ed soares the joining us today. Ed thank you for taking the time my friend. Oh man my pleasure. Thanks for the nice intro there. That's all you man you you did it Yeah we're living in crazy times man. I want you know not keep you too long but a lot of things i want to pick your brain on suppose specifically when i talked to people who've done such incredible things i always wonder where it started for them for the enemy bug winded. That bite you. When did you get into the game. Sir well You know i. I've always been a fan of may You know. I started training jujitsu with heus one around. That time is when i started training so that was got almost thirty years ago. and That's when i started You know kinda getting into mma trained a little jig through and then and then of course You know then hoists went. And then i actually moved away and when i moved away You know hoists That's when he fought in the in the first ufc and And you know. I've always been a fan of it and then just that's how i that's how is into it. You know what i mean. That's that's how i got into it. Initially yeah absolutely. I mean that that time flies man holy crap but i know as part of this new. We're not necessarily new. Legacy fighting alliance was kind of some moves from back in the day. You know jeff. Aaronson his group Forget the name of my head. And then there was a merged with with a couple of mergers that created lfa. Actually yeah actually. So what happened was is that I back in two thousand twelve Asked to become the president of the rfa off which was resurrection. Fighting alliance and I became the president of of that and then right when that happened There there was a thing called a company at the time called titan. Fc tightness yes. Yeah but but back then. I actually forgot the guy's name One of one of them was jeff parents. And that's who i had on my show when i walk he'd no he wasn't he wasn't the guy back then it was He wasn't even involved in that He wasn't even involved in the sport. I forgot the guy had no. Nope wasn't chad was joe kelley. That's his name. Okay okay. Okay i would say he was the original guy who started tightening. That see and what ended up happening is this titan. Sc was in financial a little bit of a financial crunch and He they kind of approached the fa to merge with them and we decided to but We also kind of put some stipulations in the contract That was that you know. He had to follow through with some of the things that he promised And and what happened was is. That's how we got on access tv So what happened was just artist. They had done three events at that time. None of them were broadcasted. Then we did that deal where we kind merged with titan and then R s four and five were done On access tv Unfortunately you know some of the things that That guy joe kelley at the time promised Ended up not really following through. Thank god our. Who did the neal kinda put out in in the clause saying that. If if you know things weren't you know co-pathetic on both sides that by the end of that year which would be two thousand and twelve That we could you know we could Diminish the deal and basically. That's what ended up happening. He made a lot of promises he didn't follow through on. So we just decided to go separate ways at that time You know access. Tv was not very happy with titan but really liked the type of cards and the type of events we were doing so at that time In the two thousand thirteen You know we separated from titan and and and then acce- came directly to us and we ended up doing a deal with them. So that's how are they Got into onto actress. cd was actually through the merger but then it ended up not working out the way You know we thought it would but the thing was as we ended up still with the television deal. Yeah absolutely i mean. We talked about it a lot of times with the production company. We work with assembling the right team. Like sometimes things might seem good on paper. But there's a miniature slip between the cup and the lip and like you said. Sometimes a lot of people make promises they just. Don't come come come through on but here you guys are now you know however many years later with a very successful promotion obviously the access. Tv deal kind of went away. I don't know how you feel about talking about that. But i think. I was absolutely relieved because guys product was so great. You guys were basically feeder system for the you have c. So it's good to see you guys on. Ufc fight pass. How has that been that transition. And how much was a blow to that. Or how much was that of a blow to you guys getting. We're having that. Tv deal with access for moved relieved. Where you're getting a linked up with the ufc. Well back back when the rsa the rsa and legacy both You know events on both events that were on tv and you know from a management background. You know we were the first event ever i. I don't think yours ever an event before ours and two thousand and twelve that came out and said hey. We're a developmental organization for the usc a lot of times. Promoter chatty egos oh no. I'm gonna be like the ufc. I'm going to be just like it. Or i'm gonna be digger. You know people. About and and i realize as a manager that you take guys that were fighting in a in a high school gymnasium in front of five hundred people the next thing you know they get a phone call to fighting the usc and two weeks later they're walking out in the staple center in for eighteen thousand people being broadcasted over two hundred countries and It was a shocker to them. So i always thought hey. We got to develop something to help. These guys develop i and realizing that that the the sport needed something like that and we were the first ones that come out and say that and I think we were embraced by the usc As a matter of fact we were the first organization outside of the. Us have the rights to use. An octagon was the rfa. Because i went to dana. And i went to dana lorenzo and said hey listen if i'm the developmental organization for the ufc. I wanna be able to have them. Fighting an octagon and they were they were totally cool about it and We worked at something out and we were able to license and use an octagon In the rsa and and with that being said you know we were You know on access. Tv and legacy was doing a great job. You know with nick maynard at the time was running the ship there and he was doing a great job developing great biters like holly home then and henry pseudo and ten means so many great athletes came from legacy and so many times people would go back and forth Saying oh man latest better than are they are better than been legacy and and You know we always had a very friendly sort of relationship but you know at the end of the day. We all have a little bit of competitiveness in. I remember that happened that i said to access tv. I said hey You know people are going back and forth which is better. Which is this i said. Let's let's let let's put it up. Let let let's have Rfa versus legacy and we did that back in may of two thousand fifteen and we did. An event about was on tv which was a Which was literally was the first time in north america that to north american promotions. Went up You know against each other and we did it on access and it really got a lot of buzz. And it was a great event We did three three of our guys fighting each other and then we did one of our title fights. One of their title fights in the last fight of the night was their champion vs are champion for what they call the. We created a title called the axis. Tv champion So So we ended up doing that and that it was really cool. I mean we went into We went into it at the first. Three fights are if they want to the fight legacy one one of the fights and then we had the two title fights of each organization and then the final fight was Was damasio page. Which was there flyweight champion vs alexander. Pantoja who was on flyway chair and At the time Damasio page was the heavy favorite and It was You know we went into that final fight and I don't know if you've ever got to see that fight. But it was an incredible ending. You know at the end of the second round At penta had him in a triangle. And was you know choking him. Outspoken them out choking out the bell rang and when they separated damasio page was passed out on top of them in the fight was over. So you know. The rsa ended up putting Three of the fights And they won one on. I mean it was great that we wanna force. That was awesome. But i think the biggest thing that we got from that was his that we saw that you know mic was a great dude and we can work together That was in two thousand and fifteen then Then we And then you know next year in two thousand sixteen when we started having talks about. Hey you know instead of people going back and forth and same. Who's the who's the number three show. Or who's the number one developmental organization. I said mick. If we merge companies there's gonna be no doubt in them world who the number one developmental organization is and You know we kinda came to an agreement and and we announced that in Two thousand September two thousand sixteen and we launched the lfa in january of two thousand seventeen. Wow sometimes that's an interesting story man very fascinating sometimes. Competition can breed collaboration. And that's cool that it came together like that and you guys have been pump it out and you know obviously two thousand and twenty. He's been absolutely crazy. And you guys started back up. Got the machine back going. I think it was july june july and obviously one of your announces one of my good friends co host of another show we. Do you have a station. Militates calling fight for you. you guys were just. I believe in kansas last weekend and he sent me. I was calling fights for ks aggression which he showed up to saturday to call. He sent me a clip of. I mean just in saying knockout. Alex parada was going up against gentlemen. Name of thomas powell alex perez. The guy who pretty much knocked out out of sonya in the kickboxing days. This was in in saying knockout. I'm looking for that guy to be in the ufc. Sometimes what's parada for is definitely you know You know you still technically under contract with glory but the deal that that was done with glory Because you know. Alex was interested in crossing over there and they may so. We're able to kind of do a deal with them where it allowed him during his glory on to still be able to fight and the may yell at bay and last friday was the first I fight of his In in the lfa. And and like i said he he delivered. You know he lived up to What everyone was expecting You know he's he's a very talented fighter. And and i would have to say that you know You know i. I could see him in the ufc very very soon a rematch. Between him and he would be very very interesting. I'm sure that would that would do some numbers. I mean again. This has been such a crazy time to to do what you do. And like i mentioned before. I announced for an organization called caged aggression. May we've literally had a back to back night of fights. September october and november. We just had our last one last weekend. And as being an iowa the iowa governor just made like a proclamation of new lockdown new restrictions but mike being awesome promoter he is went to battle not just for his company but for his fighters and i fans who travelled and people were cutting weight etc. So we were able to do the event with a lot of concessions no pun intended. There were no concessions. There were no was no food. No drink but we still moved forward. How has that been for you. Guys making those adaptations to adhere to cova guidelines etc while still creating content putting out events. Yeah for us. You know Like i said we're we're blessed with such a great television partner might see That usc my you know they understand position wherein they understand What a lifeline. We are i'd to developing talent and we were able to make it work you know. We had great partners with the usc and And also you know when when we first started off. I mean we were the second company back to do that. And i think the the biggest thing that's been able to help us as having such a great distribution partners That have been able to help us because without ticket revenue and without some of those things it would be impossible to do a show but The ufc understood that and helped us in many different ways For us to make it feasible for us to be able to pull off shows and Like i said. I mean you know i. I know that you mentioned earlier. And i even touched on the whole. Tv thing You know when actress tv thing happened and they. They did what they did to us. it was. It was devastating at the time. But you know I was very happy. you know. there's there's there's organizations out there that have been in business for ten years and and i've never really gotten a distribution deal and i feel very fortunate with our relationship with the us see The team that we have in place and and the product that we put out that five weeks after we were go from From them breaching their contract and shutting us down We we were able to get a deal With ufc fight pass. And like i said the only regret. I have with being what. Usc five passes that i. I wish we would've been there earlier. as far as partners as far as the team as far as what they've done for our brand The notoriety they've given us and how much we've grown It's it's tremendous. And i just feel very blessed and grateful to have such great partners Like ufc and usc five. Yeah without a doubt. I mean i was really. I watched that quite frequently man. I'm friends with mike tindall pat. I've always been a fan of your work so it really did. You know i was really upset for you. Guys that that was kind of just yanked out of the rug was yanked underneath. You like that. But i was so relieved you patenting. Ufc champion is nice for all of that to really come full circle and kind of what we talked about. I mean you're obviously partnered with the. Us's so it's it makes things a lot easier for you. But i'm so you guys got back on track because you know with lockdowns etc. What you do what we do promoting fights it's kind of covert proof to some degree as long as we stay within the guidelines and everybody tested mask wearing you guys are producing content and keeping content out there because people are staying at home and they just want stuff to look at you know and you guys i mean you guys absolutely bring the pain with with lfa. So i was really really happy for you guys to get to get back. Hooked up with the ufc and cool. You guys going. Let's go ahead. Yeah it was. It was great and and and i gotta tell you don't when we first launched this thing. We partnered up with Sanford health in south dakota. And they're they're they're a company out there that That's based out of south dakota And we've had a long relationship with them because we we were actually the first promoters as the rsa We have our promoter. License is zero zero zero one. We were the first licensed promoters When in south dakota when they actually put a sanctioning body in place we were the first ones to have a promoter's license so we had a great relationship with them. We utilize the venue that it's called the sanford pentagon out there that's owned by stanford health so we decided to go to to to sioux falls south dakota at that time you know they had a very low amount of cases out there and also with the the that the staffing and and the whole medical background that they had Made it a really safe and easy transition to to go there and You know like. I said without the usc in sanford health. They're the ones that really Enabled us to be able to pull this off. And like i said we're we're very grateful that we were that second. Mma organization back and And like i said we just keep moving forward and keep building. And and that's that's what we love to do and that's all you really can do. Yeah and it's a it's kudos testament you guys determination to keep your train moving. Matt i love to see it so moving onto let you side here in a minute. But i can't have a conversation with you without talking about one of my absolute favorites. Like i said one of the greatest to ever do it. Anderson the site the spider silva most recently against your riot hall didn't quite go the way he wanted it to anderson. I mean i know you probably. I don't know if you have this conversation. The man has really nothing more to prove. He is the goat and will remain the goat. What's that ride been like man. I remember that. I fight with chris. Lebron up until this last fight. What's this ben like. Man you know what man it. You know I have to say you know. I it it always. It wasn't always roses and a walk in the park. But i gotta say that. I'm extremely grateful for anderson silva in in what part he played in my professional career and And the experience that i got and learn from him. And and i and i'd like to believe that you know hopefully He feels same way about us that we played a big part in his career. But you know it was just an honor to be by to me he is the goat I know that he has some blemishes on his record. Some losses and things like that but at the end of the day when he was in his prime doing what he was doing. You know. I i can remember. When he was in prime. You know fighting. I used to. I used to tell people that time that not only I would put him against any fighter in any weight division. And i and i believe one hundred percent that anderson silva was going to be anybody on the planet in any way class during that time i mean the things he was able to do inside the octagon the dare years he was able to cross. I mean let's face it. He was the first mixed arts athlete sponsored by nike man. The first one. Yeah people forget about that. People forget about a lot of things. Unfortunately you know people forget about it but to me. He's the greatest to ever do it. The greatest. I mean that there was an era that there was an aura about him when he was what at that time. That he really was untouchable and And it was. It was incredible. It was incredible to be there by side. I'm i was privileged. I was blessed. And i was honored every step of the way To to be by his side. Like i said he He is a huge A huge part of my resume. And i'm very grateful and honored To to have been a part of it and and and and blessed really fast. And like i said honored is pretty much. The word you know. the words that i i would say the best you know he. It was it will. It was incredible. It was an incredible ride and Yeah i i'm just so many memorable moments and times that i've that i've experienced with anderson and And like i said. I'm just lucky to have been able to do it. I mean to be able to be alive to have witnessed like a michael jordan or an anderson silva. I mean you. Don't see that kind of elite next level. You know kind of ability. I mean would. He was doing what he did to rich franklin to win. The title was amazing. Rich franklin was a bad man what he did. I know you remember john irvine. John was supposed to be like the next thing or whatever after he knocked out. Houston alexander. I mean what he did to that. Man was just like soul crushing james irvine. I'm sorry james erin. You're absolutely correct. I apologize or even like forrest. Griffin had fourth griffin running out of the retour belford straight front kick to the face. What is karate kids like. He was just doing things. You didn't even joe rogan when you call it like wow. This is just something special to be able to watch. I can only imagine being on the conversation rub elbows and just chatted up with the goat anderson silva. Yeah i mean it was It was and i think. One of the one of the coolest things i remember. Joe rogan saying and. I always remember it. He said it is a ballet of violence is what it was. It was a ballet of violence. It really was. I mean nobody moved. And did the things he did and was able to execute and was as precise is anderson silva and and i can remember sometimes sitting there talking to them and And i would say dude like you're the best you know and he'd go he goes he go out. I don't really think i'm the best that i just. I just feel that. I could do things that people think are impossible. Yeah that was a good impression because he always had that kind of like kind of i hear. I hear for yeah. Yeah and know it's normal. And that's what i mean. Obviously all the martial arts. I've spoken to pat boss. Stephen wonderboy thompson just true. Martial arts really. They could rip your head off. They needed to but ultimately they're just the most humblest people oftentimes you could ever meet and you know and and sometimes people wouldn't understand you know You know there were times. There were people started thinking. Oh anderson's really thinking he's the shit now and being in that and then and you know what people don't understand and and And you know it's always it's always easy to sit back and say you know. If i was in that position i would have never done that. Or i would have never acted this way but i gotta tell you something men when you are the greatest fighter on the planet for seven years so think about that seven years not everywhere you went in the world people were kissing your ass telling you you were the greatest that you're the baddest that you're this. You're that man. No normal human being in their right mind can say what they do in that position. Because i can tell you being by his side during that time you know you could be humble as you want. But when you're traveling around the world everywhere you go for seven years and people are telling you how great you are dude. That's a hard thing to swallow and overcome now. That'll guess you up a little bit. Not only people telling that you did you really are you know i mean it's like i mean. Come on think about seven years. Doing whatever you feel like doing in your mind do that. you know. And and this whole approach to things. Like i remember that rich franklin fight you know at the the first rich franklin fight. I remember the day dude october. Fourteen two thousand six where Were there and and we're in the locker room. And and then all of a sudden you know the fights are going on and now all of a sudden now i start getting nervous i start fucking tripping out going. What the hell's going on do you like. I'm about to have a guy go out and fight for the first time as a manager that i've got a guy fighting for the world title so i'm like i started. Getting getting tripped out. Anderson was set up martial artists in such a g that he can notice that. I was getting nervous. He was noticing in his locker room. That i started getting nervous. So as he's hitting mitts and doing things he's looking at me and he's lincoln and he's kind of like you know trying to make me laugh and i'm kind of like a i got like a lotta shit going on in my mind and And then and then sure enough the you know. The co main event ended. And you're comes anderson. Coming off of the main event and you here bert watson gone we roll leads. The whole you know we go and then open up the door and they. They opened up the door. I opened up the door. And i'm holding the door. And a couple of the coaches walked by and then he walks by me any lips at me and he walks by. Then you take a step back. He looks at me and he winks and he goes relax. I'm gonna knock skinny out real quick him. You looked at me. And he kinda of stopped pass and he said that i'll never forget that. He said hey. Relax i'm gonna knock skinny out real quick. Let's go and then when he did that. I was like fuck okay. That'd be worries looking. What they guy just told me you know and sure enough. He went out there and did that. You know go buy some lottery. Numbers man luck is not luck i mean but it was unfortunate was on your side and what was so scary man. That rich franklin are the second one he pretty much pretty went out and replicated the same performance through in the plumbing. Neither shit out of it was like had been really demoralizing from him what. I don't know how much i'm going to let you slide here in a minute and just ask you a couple more questions and if you don't how i don't know if you want to chime in on this. How devastating in was it that the catastrophic injury he had against chris wideman. What was his thoughts weeks months after that did he think he was done. Did he will be back kind of thing because that was a horrific injury. How how much cycle. We saw the physical toll but how much psychological toll does that take on him. If you don't mind answering you know what man anderson on such a such a ninja about everything that. He's he's always been very calm. He's always been very calculated on things like that. So you know. i'm sure mentally. He was going through a lot of things. And i can remember that night very vividly. Because i didn't even realize what happened And then i was the first guy in the ring That was from his team so But one thing that you remember. Is i remember walking up. And he was laying down and you could tell that he was like looking up and he was like in pain and he was kind of going into shock but he when he saw me it was like a face recognized. And i could remember laying down and just kinda caressing his head saying hey breed and brief and as soon as i did that. They pulled traction on his leg. And i can remember the screen he gave and the face expression he gave to Would something that. I'll never forget. You know and i and i can recall You know go into the hospital with them. I went with them and then he went into surgery. And then that night. that After he got out of surgery i was at the hotel. And and then i went and You know i stayed I slept in a recliner for five nights next to his bed in the hospital as Until we were able to leave. And and i remember the first night you didn't get out of surgery till probably about three thirty in the morning and You know and he had a like a morphine drip Thing for the pain so he was only able to press the button once every nine minutes. Okay so what would happen was is he being paying pressed the button that the morphine drip would go in there and then he would you know and then he was able to go to sleep but then he'd wake up because you know the morphine would only come when you press the button so that first night you would. You didn't sleep well so the next night then. I stayed up the whole night and every nine to ten minutes. I was pressing the morphine drip. So he could sleep the whole night and those are the kinds of things that that you know. That's what you do man that that to me. It wasn't it wasn't that he was my client. He was my friend. My brother he was my he was. He was part of my family. So it's just like you know. Those are the things that sometimes people don't understand that you know you know i've i've had. I've had some of the most incredible moments in mixed martial arts By his side and i've also had some of the worst moments in mixed martial arts by his side and and and i don't regret any of them. I a matter of fact. I i just feel grateful. And blessed to be able to experienced All those moments with such an icon in the sport. Yeah like you said. I mean nothing. Nothing in life or anything like that is always roses and sunshine. But that's deep man. that's that is. That's that's real loyalty at that. That's really cool man. That's really cool. In that. As i get ready to sign out here as we look at anderson's career the men truly nothing more to prove and he's expressing that he does want to continue to fight. I know he was recently released by the ufc thing. I read something today. That one championship doesn't want to enter any kind of bidding for his services. What do you see his career as to see and for me. I just. I always hate to see whether it's joe louis. Mohammed ali sugar ray robinson chocolate del. Anybody who's been just absolutely amazing just holding on maybe a little bit too long. You don't have to chime on that because that's nobody's decision but the fighter to make that decision but what are your thoughts on him. Moving forward you know At the end of the day it's so hard to on man you know at the end of the day. It's him it's him. That's not a choice that anybody in the world can make other than himself right and You know i think he may be limited to where he may be able to go and You know who knows. I think The the the the the will to want to still compete and and enlisted man granted. He lost by tko but let's not forget he was up two to nothing and he was about ten to fifteen seconds away from being up three. Oh in the whole fight then he got clipped so. Let's let's be realistic. If it would have been a three round fight he would have won that fight when he went the distance with israel at signing with the distance with daniel cormie. I mean he's still got it. Listen he took that fight on. You know it's funny. 'cause there's always that a figure of speech that people say like oh yeah you know. I didn't really train for this fight. I mean tell you something this is. How much of. Og gangster anderson silva is okay so So i'm sitting there in vegas and i and i had cats donald fighting that same night of ufc. Two hundred right. I had her fighting that week. So i'm in vegas and as soon as that shit happen with Cormier i mean with the john jones in the cormie fight and that came out in the and i'm sitting there in on the couch in my hotel room just sitting there all of a sudden. I get a text message from from anderson. Saying i'll fight the fat kid me. She said i'll fight the fact in go. And i and i called him and i go. What goes yeah man. I'll fight the fat kid no problem. Tell dana i'll fight the fat kid. I should do their you. Serious man i do. You just had both ladder surgery. Fifty five days ago trained he goes he goes. Yeah because remember. He was supposed to fight your ira hall. In at the end of april that year are At the end the people that year But include by but he had to pull out of the fight because he had emergency gallbladder surgery in in brazil so then he basically had that surgery. He literally when i say didn't work. I didn't work out. Dude he didn't even train one day not even one day so so then i call dana. And i said dina anderson says he'll fight gourmet. He's like are you serious. I go yeah man. You gotta call dan do. I just talked to dana. dana psych. Asking me are you serious. And he goes yeah serious wow and then And then and then the thing was is that he said he says but i only wanna fight him three rounds and i go and then i called damon demons like do we wanna make it a five room. We wanna make it for the title. And i go. Yeah dude. but i'd go but anderson. You know he hasn't really trained dana. He hasn't trained and and and he feels confident that he can hang with anybody for three rounds but five rounds he feels like it may be a problem he goes. Oh man we gotta make him for five browns. And i go. And i go listen. I remember telling dana lorenzo. I go. Would you rather have a confident anderson silva for three rounds or in an confident anderson silva for five and then and then like he's like he's like well you know we can't do it kind of went back and forth and then that was on a i wanna say it was on a tuesday night knows on a wednesday night. Then been the weekend. That weekend was the same weekend that they were inducting. no gara- into the us hall of fame. So anderson was on his way out To be part of the induction of a big dog into the the ufc hall of fame so so basically that whole like from seven o'clock on wednesday so overweight until thursday morning. We're going back. And forth and dana. Wants to do for five rounds. And i dude. He's gonna fight for three and then he's like okay. Then i'm not gonna do it and i said okay. Fine so so then anderson is in this car with us. Kids driving vegas and and I've been getting calls me and goes listen if i do this. Fight for three rounds. Will anderson take the fight and i said yeah but law call him right now just to confirm and And he goes. Because i'll do. I'll do it for three rounds. But he's got a community. It's gotta be one hundred percent for sure that he's gonna do it. I said okay. So i call anderson anderson's On the road dude with his kids in his car on the road from la to tobago. Driving right and And i go. Hey do dana just called. Says he'll do the fight at three rounds. Are you willing to do it. And he goes. Yeah i'm willing to do it. He goes i thought my mouthpiece. I said why he goes. I brought my mouth piece. I said you brought your mouthpiece he goes yeah. I didn't bring anything else. I figured if i was to getting a fight only needed as my mouthpiece. I just saw my mouth piece and i go all right all right so then so then the fight happened. And he wasn't joking dude. He didn't bring anything he just as mouthpiece he didn't have any gloves. You didn't have any equipment. Nothing he shows up in vegas with just as mouthpiece forty eight hours before fighting daniel cormie which just as mouthy and when i say he didn't fight or didn't train he didn't fucking train. The only thing he did was hitting mitts on that thursday night and friday. They wait in fought see. That's what i'm saying. It's not about it's not about building. That's that guy fucking. He's a legend. Yes and that's what. I'm saying that it almost seems like i wrote the wrote. That's made that stuff up. But you know and i don't know if you've ever had a chance to watch that documentary that we produced of anderson called lake water but i mean that documentary is really give. I felt a behind the scenes. Look of what and who anderson silva really is well in. Obviously it ended well. Documentary ended with him. I think it was the first. Shell sunan fight. That obviously would have been different ending different ending to that movie. And that's another aspect of why he's the goat the way. He was literally snatched victory from the mouth of defeat and that fight. I mean that was a very good performance from shale but the way he just pulled out that triangle the end was just like you. Just don't it's like you're right like you said it's like it's written in a movie or something you just don't get that kind of storybook ending what their perspect- like if that was if that wasn't a documentary and it was a movie you'd say of course the the movie ends like that. It's a move right. Yeah of course it ends like that but the thing that's crazy imagine if rocky was a documentary. That's what that was. Yeah yeah totally and highly recommend that to people. If you're just a fan in general that documentary like waters is pretty powerful stuff man. That was another great experience that i got to do is to be an executive producer of that documentary and for us to women award at the tribeca film festival. It was just like like. I said you know Anderson silva has enabled not only himself but so many other people around him to cross so many barriers. And that's why. I just feel blessed and fortunate to have You know and like. I said it wasn't all roses dude. We've had our bad times too. But overall man i i wouldn't change anything man i i i really wouldn't and I i'm just blessed blessing in grateful to have been able to experience what i did with him and and to be honest with you as a manager. I've just been blessed and grateful to experience so many great thing. I'd like to work with liotta machida to work with the nogueira brothers to work with glover teixeira to work with You know so many greats and future hall of famers It's just it's just it's just been it's just been a great ride. You're going to have a very lucky you're going to have a very good book but like anything else in life like you said you can't have the good with the bad that's really powerful stuff saying about By being anderson side during during that dark dark time you obviously ford very very powerful friendship brotherhood. Whatever you wanna call it but obviously it transcends that like you said manager client relationship and that's that's really cool man in the fight game. Sometimes you just don't Like you said people don't actually fulfil all their obligations or not what they appear just kind of shady sometimes in the game. But that's really cool that you guys have the relationship that you do for let you slide man. Twenty twenty crazy. What do you guys have in store for. Twenty twenty one man you know. Twenty twenty one man. I'm i'm you know with. I'm extremely excited about what we're doing. you know we're we're really looking at opportunities of expanding Our footprint globally Were really looking at You know expanding internationally possibly next year and things are looking really good and Like i said. I'm just excited to be able to in twenty twenty one to be put on twenty four kick ass shows on usc. Fight pass and Like i said just blessed it. Just keep building talent and And just keep just keep that factory going. Then you know. Like i said you know over over. Thirty percent of Of the us's current roster are lfa alumni and and not only the you have c. You know we're sending a tremendous amount people to bela tor two. And you know people are always saying that you know. We not only want to be the number one developmental organization for the usc but we want to be the number one developmental organization of the sport. So we are goal that we set out was to be the nc. The division one. Aa of our sports. And i and i feel that We've gotten there and now it's just a matter of keep breaking barriers and keep doing better because now that we're ahead of everybody. I don't wanna let anybody even come close. I just wanted to you know vapors absolutely in the rear view mirror man. Obviously good at it. You know what you're doing. You know how to cultivate talent. You know how to produce very elite level production man. I'm really stoked for you. I'm glad you guys find a home back in the afc. And i really can't thank you for your time and again i appreciate it so much. I appreciate what you do your work and just hanging out you. Were you know very down to earth kind of cat. Man was really love to pick your brain and i'm sure the book when it comes out it's gonna be chock full even more stories. I can only imagine van. But i say you know you know. It's it's very nice. You know that. I you know being the ceo of the company you know. I get a lot of praise. i get a lot of praise for what we do with the lfa. But i gotta tell you man that I'm just a small real really. And i'm not saying this to try to be humble. I'm seeing this to be the truth. I'm really a small part of it. Man because you know my business partner being and mark berry and and our production team from chris mark well to jamie mc mc got kicked can't pronounce his name right now Yeah jamie mick jagger jamie mick but but I mean just start production team and having pat militants and and and and having a You know just just the whole staff and team that makes that makes this impossible. I mcclintock. That's what it was. I catch for some reason. I couldn't couldn't come out of my mouth jamie mcclintock and and and and aj and wait and and and just everybody that that puts it together. We really truly have a family and a team. You know ron crock. And and and that militant and and it's like you know really then it's everybody. Yeah everybody together is what really makes it. And and and and and okay. I'll take some of the responsibility for it. But i gotta tell you man i. I'm just a small part of it. I it's everybody Working together israel really has made a successful. And i'm just blessed to have the team that Blessed to have the team that i have To make it look so easy. When i'm sure appreciate you recognize that and like me being a part of cage aggression intimate. It's one of the largest promotions in the mid west and that you are so very correct my good when the c o could not do this by himself. He's had to assemble the right team. And that's exactly what has taken so. I'm just really happy for you. Guys looking forward to twenty twenty one any social network diggings throughout their we can either follow you or the promotion. Yeah i mean Obviously my instagram is You know and everything is black house. and then lfa fighting lfg. Fighting is our instagram. And and our twitter and all of that and I mean that's that's that's what we do man. And and like i said i'm just blessed to Have have been able to make it through this year and navigating through all the adversities that we had to navigate through and I gotta say this was a very successful year for us. And i'm looking forward to twenty twenty one even being more successful and I just hope people keep tuning in and and hopefully people appreciate and recognize what we're doing and and what we keep doing absolutely keep it up man l. Ef legacy fighting alliance can be found on. Ufc fight pass. This has been ed soares. Thank you again so much for your time. Rather enjoy your holidays and enjoy and get into kicking ass in twenty twenty my friend. I thank you so much. Thank you take care you too.

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Episode 3: Christian Can See

Newt's World

43:19 min | 2 years ago

Episode 3: Christian Can See

"In your. On this episode of mutual when the idea of gene therapy, really surfaced. I wanted to develop treatments for these diseases. Not just understand them. The child in Miami has thrown away his cane, which was his lifelong dream has blind canes and is doing things that he never could do before there. Many times when I began to feel like a pioneer who was trying to move west on a poorly defined trail. Episode of neutral, we're gonna meet three engaging and passionate doctors who are on the cutting edge of medical breakthroughs using gene therapy, Dr Jim Wilson, Dr Katherine. Hi. And Dr Jean Bennett all three were honored last year by Sanford health as nominees for their million dollar the rain cross award an award. That's given for Nevada breakthroughs in medicine or science that has the ability to transform global health and change lies. I work with Sanford as an adviser. I was there at the words are money. Frankly, I left evening amazed amazed by the potential of gene therapy to cure disease. Even more amazed by the determination of these doctors and amazed by the courage of their patients. That's why I wanna focus this episode of neutral world letting them tell their stories you're gonna hear the doctors early struggles in the field star. Being out in medical school or a lab in Burma only to suddenly have funding for gene therapy, dry up there. They were they thought they knew the entire future their lives and suddenly the roadmap was destroyed as funding changed, but they believe so much what they're doing. They just persevered and they've made an incredible difference and many people's lives. We're also going to hear about the patients they've treated and the miraculous outcomes they've experienced after years of clinical trials, I want you to close your eyes from it while you're listening c- understand what I mean by miraculously imagine, you're a child you're born with a genetic defect. And you can't see kick closer is think about that. You're going to spend the entire rest of your life at three or four or five years of age not being able to see. And suddenly somebody finds some breakthroughs and you can see because due to these breakers Christian can see before introduce my first guest. Dr Wilson, I want you to imagine for the moment being the parent of a child who's missing a chromosome, the contains a specific, gene, you be three. But just that one mutation affects the quality of your child's life. That is awesome, Barron story a mother of a beautiful daughter named Quincy. My name is awesome brench and time the mother of a four year old little girl. Her name is Quincy who was diagnosed with a rare mono disorder called angel syndrome. It's neuro generic which means that she's missing a single, gene. And that ultimately results in her having a lot of challenges she is call tax or she has real significant balance issues. Her body is moving a lot. And when she's trying to walk China figure out where her body is in space, and how does she balance herself? So she can walk safely every time. We take a step. We tell ourselves to activate one leg relaxed the other leg, and she doesn't have that relaxation. So really learning that motor plan in learning how to do very gross things like walking or very fine things like waiting free difficult for kids like Quincy, those challenges are something that she is incredibly inspiring to face because she fights them every day with so. Much, determination and effort. She knows she's different. She knows things are harder for her and she'll do thirty five hours a week of physical therapy in order to do her best to keep up with her peers funding hunter Wilson was the biggest blessing that has probably ever happened to our family, and I would venture to say our community. What happened with my daughter was diagnosed with intimate syndrome in two thousand fourteen in. So I said who cured cystic fibrosis, and I need to find this person and a press release came out as I was looking for who this was saying that somebody was giving a lecture, and it was the person who pioneer, gene therapy and cured cystic fibrosis. And I was like I need to meet this person. I looked in the press release and I found his name Dr James Wilson. And so I sent him an Email a very brief Email describing myself in describing Quincy and asked him if you'd be willing to have a conversation. I got a response from him one hour later on a Sunday night at ten thirty pm that said when are you available to talk this week the next day? Day. We got on the phone, and we talked about what instruments syndrome was he had never heard of it. We explained what it was. And how it could be treated, and what the literature was that was available for intimate syndrome. And he said, this is incredibly promising. I have never heard of it. But I'm gonna do my due-diligence, and I'm gonna look into it. Can you come to Philadelphia and meet with us in person? And I said I can be there in ninety minutes. And so we set up a meeting for him about fifteen other scientists around the world to meet and talk about intruments in Rome and all of the science behind it. And at the end of the meeting there was a consensus that he felt that he could treat intruments syndrome. He such a personable man, and he has been very close not only to our community. But to my family he is reached out to us on numerous occasions just because he is enamored and he's touched by Quincy. And so because of that the personality that he has is all business. Let's get to the point and. Fix this disorder because we can because of her challenges because of the coordination issues that she has Quincy can't talk because her tongue and her face and all the muscles required. The mouth her lips all that have to be coordinated in coordination's really hard for kids with angel syndrome. And because of that sheath a lot she wants to say, and when you ask her to talk she wants her mouth and tries to talk. But you can't so what we can provide her with this. She wears an ipad. And that ipad has a symbol system. And she can point to symbols of words that she wants to say, and then her voice she wears all day and she carries that on her body. So if she has something she liked to say, she has two point to symbol. And so now she's been able to tell us all the things she's thinking about like she wants a hug or she's hungry where she's thirsty. She's tired or tummy hurts. And those are all things she couldn't do. When you have a kid was so much that they want to say, and it's so hard for them to let that out all you wanna do is provide for them to make that easier. So that they can let out the words that are in there, but things are possible or impossible in there's no in between. And Dr Wilson realize it's possible, and he's not gonna stop until he is successful. And he believes that he can treat children with rare genetic disorders, and I feel full heartedly that the success of gene therapy is really because of him. Now, I wanna do you. Dr Jim Wilson who treated Quincy on our opening story. He's considered the godfather of gene therapy due to his pioneering ovations and his lifelong commitment to new discoveries in this field. Why was interested in science from the very beginning? But when I was at a point where I was considering graduate school. Goal or what to do after college? I felt that it was important to me that the work that I did would be more directly related to helping people and take in the area of medicines. I decided to enter into a combined MD in a PHD program at the university of Michigan. So my initial project was to define the molecular basis of rare neurologic disease called the Lesch nine syndrome. It was quite exciting incredibly productive time in my life where I was able to participate in cutting edge molecular science, but also get to know the patients, these young boys with this disease, and their families one of these young boys that I got to know very well because a we would transport him back and forth from his home in North Carolina to the clinical research center at the university of Michigan during one of his trips with us, I was able to identify the mutation that causes disease. And it was this kind of insight. That one rarely gets in science these so called Eureka moments and was quite proud of the accomplishment, and it was widely acclaimed because it was cutting edge at the time. And I remember when I brought him back home to meet with his mother who would come up at the rally Durham airplane terminal and of so excited to meet with her and to share with her that we identified the mutation that caused causes sons disease, and and she looked at me and ask a very probing question. But a very simple question. How is this going to help my son? There was your silence, and I felt like I was punched in the stomach not by her. But by my own kind of view and how excited I was about the work. But realizing that that it's impact was quite marginal. And it was really at that moment. I decided that whatever I was going to do going forward that I wanted to develop treatments for these diseases. Not just understand them. When the idea of gene therapy, really surfaced in a way that I can only treat this. Man who clearly too late to do that. But others with diseases like his and other genetic diseases, and they are in started my journey, how difficult was it to find support as I understand it at the time, you're doing it. This is really a brand new approach and sort of exploring an unknown territory when it started back in the late eighties. There was a lot of enthusiasm almost unbridled enthusiasm for what we were doing in that the expectations were quite high and ended up being unrealistic, and what we did at the time though with us, whatever technology, viruses, so called viruses that were available and spent years to try to attenuate them and incorporate normal genes and then into the clinic to see if they would work and during that period of the nineties there was a tremendous amount of activity in. And moving gene therapy into the clinic what we learned at the really the turn of the century was that the technology. We had available to us at the time was not up to the task. And there were clinical trials Ed essentially didn't succeed. In fact, none of them were succeeding. And unfortunately, there were several examples where there were tragic consequences where our attempt to try to benefit someone led to taxes city in particular young man by the name of Jesse gals are who courageously volunteer to participate in one of the trials conducted here at Penn had an unexpected reaction to this experiment and eventually died from it. And it was about that time that there were sort of other events that occurred that led to a dramatic erosion of support for the field. In fact. Very hard to get any support right around the turn of the century. So new the challenging time in the time that was sort of critical to get where we are today was that first decade kind of two thousand two thousand ten where we really had no support, but few of us still believe in the concept and just continued to sort of plug away and quietly made some important discoveries during that period of time that sort of set the stage for where we are right now. Jim Wilson's breakthrough in developing a benign virus delivery system, suddenly created enormous new opportunities in gene therapy. And that sense Wilson in many ways really was the godfather. When we come back. We'll meet Dr Jean Bennett, one of the doctors who built upon Dr Wilson's breakthroughs and find out why her trousers dogs lead to a cure for blindness. We're gonna bring you Newt's world. Thanks to the support of our sponsors. I like to welcome the very first sponsor policy genius getting life insurance can feel like a sibling, the world's worst, jigsaw puzzle. It's confusing. 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Hi, Dr Jean Bennett began working together in nineteen ninety twenty seven years later, they succeeded in getting the first gene therapy medication approved by the food and Drug administration. Their story is one of determination and commitment to bring a treatment the cure to form of blindness tomorrow. But a wasn't without struggle on the way here. Dr Bennett explains the early years that she spent working with dogs and clinical trials, my collaborators at university of Pennsylvania and the vet school had the wisdom early on of studying dogs that were born blind in order to be able to better understand human blindness to use them as models of human blindness. That was a unique view and plan that they had because usually kennel clubs and other organizations which. Dog's breed out genetic problems such as blindness or hip displeasure, and so forth and people get rid of those animals, but here this group was searching for them as models because dogs just like humans. There are dogs that are born spontaneously blind or with other deficits, and there was a pet owner who owned a very large dog Swedish Priore dog his name was Merlin. And they brought him over to the clinic and said are you interested in our dog? And they said, of course, yes, they borrowed the dog and bread him with one of their small normal cited laboratory dogs, and then cross bred him back to that dog realizing that this original owners dog was probably had an autosomal recessive disease. That means it's a disease where. Two different Liles are required to be affected. You need to Badgis in order to get a disease. And so they did what people commonly do in the laboratory with mice. It's a lot easier with mice. But they did a back cross with the dogs in order to see if they would then generate puppies that had this same sort of blindness as the original founder dog and lo and behold, they had three puppies that were born all three of them were blind. And in fact, we named them LANCELOT one of your and King Arthur because their grandfather had been named Merlin and these were the puppies that we then use to test. Whether gene therapy could reverse their blindness, then that was what led to the Eureka moment. These dogs. Were maintained by the veterinary school at university of Pennsylvania by my collaborators, Greg Ackland, and Gus Gerry and we joined forces together with some other investigators to test the possibility that gene therapy could rescue the vision in these little puppies, and we had three animals available. We went ahead and injected them and the results were nothing short of miraculous within a few weeks, these puppies who had to be led to a water bowl because they couldn't see where it was who would just crunch coroner because they're scared of bumping themselves. If they walked into a door or wall their behavior change dramatically, and they were playing with each other catching toys playing tug of war running around wagging their tails, it was just stunning result. And it. Was the sort of thing which scientists I hardly ever get to see in a career. It was really a dream result a Eureka moment. And unfortunately, at that point in time, it was very difficult to get funding to carry out the next set of steps that we wanted to carry out which would be to go to a human clinical trial. Next. Dr Bennett clinical trials are threatened by a lack of funding across all gene therapy research. An unfairly discharged marine with dark secret. A brilliant intelligence officer recovering from tragedy. This unlikely pair are brought together to stop a deadly Russian plot against the heart of the American system. Number one, New York Times bestselling authors, Newt Gingrich and p early return with a new series filled with action and intrigue that captures the tensions divides of America and the world today collusion, a novel by nuke Gingrich available on Amazon dot com and audible now. After venit develop some promising data with the Swedish Brar dogs, but funding for gene therapy dried up, then along came her longtime colleague, and friend Dr Katherine hi with a knock at her door. Here's Dr high. I went to the te'o of children's hospital at Philadelphia where I was working then in asked if he thought that he put resources into this and to my continuing surprise even many years later after thinking about it for a week, he agreed to do that. And he told me he said he said I'm going to invest in gene therapy because if it works it will be very important for genetic disease. And that means it will be important for children's hospitals. But I have one condition for you. And that is that you cannot use all the resources I'm going to provide you to work on. Haemophilia you have to work on some other genetic diseases that affect children. And I said, okay. We'll then I know exactly what I'm going to do because I had been a longtime colleague of gene Bennett's in terms of our interest in working on gene therapy purchase. And I knew how great her dog model. Data was so she had essentially chored this rare form of inherited blindness in dogs, and I really felt that that would have excellent chance of translating into success in people knocked her Bennett. I was totally shocked when she knocked on my office door one day, July two thousand five and Jean. How would you like to run a clinical trial chop? I was it was just shocking. I was not prepared for that at all. But it was just such a wonderfully surprising shock that. I responded within milliseconds and from then on we've been tied at the hip with this common goal of bringing together are complementary expertise and making this happen safely in fast. So high was successful in finding the funding to the children's hospital Philadelphia. Dr Bennett was ready to move from her trouser dogs to clinical trials of people the years two thousand seven after high explains what happened next the first three subjects were all adults. That was the agreement that we had reached with both the local and the federal regulatory agencies and because that look save then after that we were able to begin enrolling children. So we enrolled twelve people in the phase one to study mix of pediatric. And adult participants and the data looked really strong. And so then the problem became. How do we take the information that we're getting in this clinical trial and set up a way of measuring what we're seeing in a way that's quantitative reproducible and convincing to other people. So that we can actually give drug approved. So we worked closely actually with the regulators to set up a new end point. So this is I think very important point. Because if gene therapy is really to realize all the potential represented in the human genome project. We are going to be tackling diseases. The currently have no treatment, and if a disease has no treatment, it means that nobody has figured out. What are the clinical end points that you have to develop evidence for that will tell other people and the regulators and clinicians and everybody. Yes, this drug is working. So that's what we had to we had to tackle. How do we make a novel and point for people with this Pacific? Clinical condition where they have very diminished sensitivity to light. And if you can't pick up light that's coming in. You may be able to operate, okay? In a location like on the beach on a bright sunny day. But if you're in the setting of dimmer light than you can't see Dr. Hi, Dr Bennett worth through these clinical challenges and moved to clinical trials with patients who are diagnosed with this rare disease Lieber congenital amorous the four original patients came from Italy. And in fact, the first two were twins fraternal twins. The I was a girl. Second was boy, and they had all been diagnosed with LV or Labor's congenital Amoroso's that's disease which form of impaired vision, which is sits within the classification of. Pigmentosa? But it's the most severe form of retina does pigmentosa because it's founded birth so babies with LCA don't see the same detailed at normal cited babies would and they are very very late impaired. In fact, if they are in a room where they can look at the sun or look at some very bright object their eyes tend to look in that direction because they don't see regular room lights, or they don't see well in in lighting that people use generally in their homes, they are attracted to very very bright objects. They have very poor resolution, and that's reflected by testing visual acuity. They don't see letters on I chart or for children. They don't see pictures that are in drawn very largely they have very poor side vision, and whatever they have how ever. Gets progressively worse. Because this is also a degenerative condition as the cells in the retina die off they lose what they have even though that's poor to begin with. So these first four Italian the first three Italians who enrolled in our study were Dulce as mandated by our local institutional review board who wanted to make sure that this was tested. I in individuals who could fully understand what they were agreeing to participate in give proper informed consent. And to make sure that the intervention was safe enough to then move forward to what are called quote vulnerable. Subjects. I each Sheldon. Who may not understand all of the details of the study. So these individuals the first two individuals were in their twenties when they came here and the third was nineteen years old, and they each stayed for several weeks they had testing before their injection and after their injection, and then they came for follow up visits at regular intervals three months. Six months nine months a year and so forth. So it was a just a huge contribution that they gave in terms of their time investment to dissipate in these studies which were aimed at both looking at the safety of this intervention and also whether it worked, and of course, these individuals were born severely vision impaired. So they traveled with a family member or two sometimes we got to know their families really really well because of all the time that they spent traveling back and forth here. So the first individual who received the injection from Italy was one of those volunteers to have her second, I injected first, and she did not have a family member who could stay here for three months because they all had jobs that required that they be back in Italy for that time period. So we said one stay with us. And in fact, she stayed in our house, and she had the injection and a couple of days later, she came downstairs and looked in the mirror and said mama Mia as she saw her face for the first time. It was just amazing watching her learn how to use her new vision from day to day. She'd look out the window and say what is that? And it would be branches on a tree or we'd be driving and she'd see a reflection from. A pond each thing. She had to learn what it was. And it was like a child seeing things for the first time. But in fact, she was twenty eight years old and telling the brain what that was that the person was seeing so that was really quite remarkable in on ever, forget it. I think one of the remarkable things about the story. Really this journey is understand that people with this rare genetic mutation could receive one injection and have their sight restored almost overnight. It's truly a remarkable scientific breakthrough not about can you tell us a few stories of patients who were treated and what their experience was interestingly enough there were three patients who had near-simultaneous injections around the United States one in Boston one in Miami. And one in LA, and I believe it was the Boston patient who was I. East? The Boston patient was injected at Massachusetts i-in ear infirmary, which is a Harvard institution by Dr Jason commander, who's a retinal surgeon who would actually come here to learn how to do these sub retinal injections from my husband. I never tire hearing these stories, for example, the boy at treated at mass I near now rides his bike and conceive things in school and goes to his friends houses by himself. The child in Miami has thrown away his cane, which was his lifelong dream, his blind Kane, and is doing things that he never could do before the little girl in Los Angeles and had her injection just before Halloween, and she was able to go trick or treating and could not get over the fact that she could see in the dark. She was not as interested in the Halloween treats. The fact that she could go down the street and see where she was going. The dramatic importance of a scientific breakthrough is it semi sends a signal that maybe there's something really worth investing in and all of a sudden more and more people come to an area because they now have hope, and they have a practical realistic scientific basis for that. Hope we've heard about this story is that has led to support other researchers who are focused and finding cures for blindness. Dr Bennett, can you tell us how the field has expanded? The availability of lex turn has already made a difference because people are now educating their optimal ges saying, you know, there is this new drug do I qualify and doctors are realizing that these individuals with these inherited forms of blindness need to be studied in Gino typed to see what the genetic basis is of their disease to see if they qualify and also whether they qualify for other. Or studies that we think are going to take place in the near future. So it's also fueled research in developing treatments for the other forms of inherited blindness. There are more than two hundred sixty different genetic forms of blindness and many of these are now targets for developing, gene based therapies and many of them are are now actually in clinical trials. So I think it paved a way for other groups to be able to try to develop interventions based on gene delivery. Finally, I think that this is going to be a stepping stone for developing gene based treatments for blinding diseases that affect a large number of people. I think there are going to be ways to develop an intervention which could address multiple different genetic defects, for example to target a specific BioChem. Chemical pathway or support pathway where a somewhat generic therapy could be delivered which would prevent the disease from progressing based on what we know the biology of the retina, and so I'm hopeful that this will end up helping a lot of different people who have different forms of blindness. Coming up. We'll hear from patient whose life was fundamentally changed for the better, his Dr Bennett, and Dr highs breakthrough discovery. Would one podcast network daily wires Ben Shapiro show? What I do see is a system that is wildly broken. When a lot of people who were brought here as children in our Ned benefits to the United States. It takes forever for them to get citizenship. But we're talking blanket amnesty for people who come across the border now to Ben Shapiro show. Download and subscribe at apple podcast and the Westwood One podcast that three from the Westwood One podcast network. We've talked a lot in this episode about the process of going through clinical trials to bring a drug to market. But the reason these doctors do what they do is all to affect the lives of their patients. Here's Dr Bennett, and Dr highs patient a teenage musician named Christian. My name is Chris Gardiner was born very rare retinal disease called Liebers congenital amorous, and what that is a very rare disease that causes you to go blind over time. But we didn't know that when I was a baby what my mom heard when she notice. There was something wrong was that I would have the type of LCA that either improves slightly overtime remained stable, but about eleven years old. He started notice a decline in my vision. And we were really concerned. So we got tested at the children's hospital. We met Dr Bennett, and that's where we found out that I would be going completely blind. By the time. I hit age fifteen to thirty. Start to get older and are starting to see my friends playing outside at nighttime. I was always had to sit inside his mom. Why can't I why can I play outside? Why can I go with them? And that's when I really started to notice something was wrong with my vision. I always use music as something to cope with that. You know, my body's my ears over my eyes, but grown up with all CA was hard mostly because I wanted to do everything else that all the other kids were doing. But I couldn't I think one of the biggest things that made me wanna move forward with the clinical trials, and even though it was experimental. And I was very nervous. We've already found out that I'm gonna be going blind by the age fifteen to thirty nothing. I could do about it. So there was something. I could do about it. I was gonna take that opportunity. And there was that hope and it was all we had. I didn't wanna go blind during the gene therapy. We go every few weeks for a little bit. It was a lot of visits. And it was a lot of tests. Bing. So these people really really helped me feel a sense of security with that. And I trusted them Dr. Hi, Dr Bennett, our all such incredible people incredible at what they do. They're some of the best doctors I've ever met. So since we took that patch off a member at the hotel Saudis patterns on the floor. What what what was on the floor? What was going on over here? I I've been to this hotel for years before the, gene therapy. Never remembered any patterns on this lore, and those patterns have been here. The whole time. Okay. So that's when I really started to notice, gene therapy working, and that was really cool fast-forward few weeks. We go home in. I see the moon for the first time out of performance. Which was absolutely amazing. I was at this amusement park called adventure land and perform their everyone's day nights during the summer and this one night, I'm on the side of the stages in outdoor thing. I'm looking up at the sky, and they're calling my name on stage. Christian Christian Christian. I'm not paying attention. I'm looking straight up at the sky and the MC of the show comes down as Christian. It's your turn to perform. You gotta go up. Is that the moon? It was probably one of the biggest nights in my life. I don't think I'll ever forget that night before gene therapy when I found out that I was gonna go completely blind. By the time. I hit age fifteen to thirty. I was terrified of losing everything that I had seen. I didn't wanna forget what my mother looked like I didn't wanna forget what my family looked like. And now that I got this, gene therapy. I don't have to Dr Bennett. And dr. Hi, there kind. They are like I said incredible incredible people really can't emphasize that enough like they really changed my life just because of the human beings that they are let alone the doctors that they are. But just because of the human beings that they are also gene therapy could pave the way for other sciences other diseases there so much that could come out of this. And it is absolutely incredible. What they did with this technology. The science, and I honestly it blows my mind just this eighteen year old. I don't understand it blows my mind, it is so cool. I hope you'll take two things away. From today's episode. I that these cures are about human beings people folks whose lives are made profoundly different because something happens in science, the translates into their health and second that achieving that kind of a breakthrough takes years dedication, smart people who work endless hours, sometimes with enormous frustration frustration because what they thought would work didn't. And they gotta go back to the drawing board frustration because they've got to deal with government bureaucracies to get approval frustration because funding dries up just as they think they're about to make a breakthrough and the pioneers the folks who courageously go out there year after year because of their dedication change lives. It's always amazing to me to have a chance to share with you, the kind of personal stories where suddenly a young man who couldn't see looks at the moon for the very first time to listen to a mother who had no hope for her daughter, but absolute determination that she would find hope. This is what health America's who out finding the heures helping people have complete lives. Having people have healthy long lives. When I was speaker. We doubled the funding for the national health a number of people alive today because of your generosity is taxpayer is astounding. And over the next twenty or thirty years, a number of breakthroughs are going to grow and grow and grow. Whether it's Alzheimer's are sickle cell, anemia hem failure cancer again. And again, you're gonna see story after story. And I hope you'll hear the people can be saved. But it's important to remember that at the end of the laboratory is not a cure at the end of the laboratory is an idea a breakthrough a new scientific discovery. And then from that. That point the treatment and your doctor's office requires additional money additional focus additional specialties. And that's why this unusual American model of a public private partnership where publicly we fund enormous amounts of basic research. And then privately we raise the money organized, the entrepreneurs and turn the basic research into cure after cure after cure. And it's that combination which has made us the health powerhouse the planet, and which offers us as a team chance of the next fifteen or twenty years to truly have breakthroughs in scale that Wilson. Thank you to my guests. Duck to Jim Wilson, Dr Katherine. Hi, and Dr Jean Bennett and Allison Barent and pushing Gordon, oh, you can see the books articles documents the we relied on research in this episode on our show page at neutral dot com. Neutralist produced by Westwood One. Executive producers, Debbie Meyers, our producers Garnsey Sloan, and Joe descents are editor is Robert Barassie. Our researcher is Rachel Peterson. Our work for the show was created by Steve penalty. The music was composed by Joey salvia special. Thanks team of Gingrich. We sixty two Sanford health, and to Westwood one's Tim Savion and Robert matters. Please subscribe to world on apple podcast Spotify Google play wherever you get entertaining. Puchased on the next episode of Newsworld a remarkable candid and open conversation with congressman Patrick Kennedy. Someone who is own life has had challenge of addiction. Someone who's been a great leader in terms of mental health parody dealing with addiction and trying to solve the problems of healthcare. I think you'll find a fascinating and important conversation and one the you'll never forget, I'm Newt Gingrich. This is Newt's world.

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Vaccine Setback 2.0, Barrett Faces Grilling & iPhone 12 Launch- Tuesday, October 13th, 2020

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10:59 min | 6 months ago

Vaccine Setback 2.0, Barrett Faces Grilling & iPhone 12 Launch- Tuesday, October 13th, 2020

"Today is Tuesday October. Thirteenth we're talking about why another vaccine trial is now on hold how a different one is getting teenagers involved and the first covid nineteen reinfection in the US. Also another contentious day expected over the Supreme Court nominee and how the presidential candidates are spending their final weeks before Election Day plus facebook reverses its policy about Holocaust Deniers Amazon Prime Day kicks off and the newest iphone revealed today. Welcome welcome to the newsworthy all the day's news in less than ten minutes fast. They're fun and on the go I'm Erica Mandy. Thanks so much for being here. You're ready. Let's do this as. Well a second covid nineteen vaccine study has been shut down the US over safety concerns Johnson and Johnson's trial is now paused because one volunteer got sick. Now we should note Johnson, and Johnson says it standard protocol to pause the trial and start safety review whenever someone gets sick in one of these trials for now, all we know is one participant has an unexplained. Illness but of course, in these large-scale trials, it's always possible that person got sick by chance and it has nothing to do with vaccine. We just don't know yet. So that's a safety review is now underway. The setback is a little disappointing to some health officials because the Johnson and Johnson vaccine is the only one right. Now, that would only require one shot if. Approved the other possible vaccines in the US. Now, in their final phase of testing, require two shots about a month apart and remember the Astra Zeneca trial is also paused in the US for a safety review one volunteer got sick and that one is well, but still we don't know if the vaccine caused yet. So now there are only two still being tested here. One from Madonna and one from Pfizer, and we actually have an update about the Pfizer trial as well. The drug maker is going to start recruiting younger volunteers hopefully to prove the vaccine is safer children as well. The FDA approval to Pfizer to start testing volunteers as young as twelve. Now, the trial will include people age twelve to eighty five stay tuned for more data. Scientists say a man got Cova nineteen twice and it's the first known reinfection in the United States. A twenty five year old in Nevada was diagnosed over the summer just six weeks after his first case and the second time he reportedly had even more severe symptoms. His case study was published yesterday in the medical journal The Lancet and researchers say the two strains of the virus were genetically distinct. So it most likely was not the first infection just popping back up. Scientists also say this man experience shows the importance of social distancing and wearing masks. Even if you were already infected, it also raises questions about how the immune system reports to this virus and how long antibodies can really protect a person experts. Say they're still not sure why a person might get sick or the second time around since in theory antibodies from the first infection should work to help the body fight the virus better. So more research is still need it. Just. Day to today confirmation hearings for President Trump's lead US supreme court nominee judge amy, Coney Barrett she'll be back on Capitol Hill in person and it's expected to be another contentious day today and tomorrow Barrett faces the line of questioning from lawmakers. About controversial topics including whether she might recuse herself from any twenty twenty election related cases support for whether or not. She should be the next Supreme Court. Justice seems to be pretty much party lines and it already seems that way on day one yesterday during opening statements Republicans mostly congratulated Judge Barrett for her accomplishments. They highlighted the time she spent as an appeals court judge a Notre Dame law professor and a working mother of seven Democrats. took a different approach. They didn't directly attack judge Barry but instead, they criticized Republicans for rushing her nomination before Election Day. Some also talked about the stakes saying Judge Barrett will turn the affordable care act up end abortion rights and side with President trump in any court battle over the November election results as expected judge Barrett defended her record saying her approach to law is conservative and fair Barrett also said she would bring a few nuclear. Since if confirmed, she would be the first mother of school aged children to serve the High Court if approved by the Senate panel, the full Senate will make the final call. Both president trump and his election rival Joe Biden are busy campaigning in critical swing states this week I president trump during a central Florida rally yesterday the president told crowds he feels powerful after beating covid nineteen and he said he would like to kiss everyone in the audience. Trump's doctors have been saying for a couple of days now that he's not contagious and then yesterday White House Doctor Navy Commander Sean Conley confirmed that the president has now tested negative more than once at the. Rally. Trump told supporters that covid nineteen was quote risky but you gotta get out the president also said safety lockdowns were too drastic and did too much damage to the economy. It was an outdoor rally people in the crowd stood shoulder to shoulder and most of them did not wear face coverings even after president trump tossed some masks out into the crowd that was just the first of six rallies trump plans to hold this week he'll be in Pennsylvania today Iowa tomorrow and North Carolina. As for the Democratic presidential nominee, Joe? Biden, is going to be in Florida today in. Pennsylvania. On Thursday he made two campaign stops in Ohio yesterday. This is Biden's first trip to that state this election cycle and some political analysts were surprised by it since Ohio went. So strongly to trump in two thousand sixteen but the New York Times says, Democrats are hopeful Ohio will be able to swing blue. Once again at a drive in rally the former VP said president trump has been reckless as president specifically with his handling of the pandemic he told supporters quote he turned. His back on you and I will never do that so far. It does seem like voters are energized by this race on the first day of early in person voting in Georgia voters filled up polling sites record breaking numbers the event journal. Constitution. Reports some people waited in line for more than eight hours election officials and advocacy groups have been encouraging people to vote early where it's available at least in hopes of easing crowds on election day, which is November third but this kind of record turnout is expected throughout this voting season election day is exactly three weeks from today. We have more news coming up but first, thanks to our sponsor today hellofresh hellofresh is America's number one milk it for a reason, hellofresh delivers fresh high-quality pre portioned ingredients. 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Microsoft says it's working to take down a major cybercrime operation that could affect the November election. The company apparently discovered an enormous malware network called trick bought the criminals were using to launch cyber attacks. So Microsoft got a court order to take down trick bought servers they were worried the criminal hackers were looking to infect and slowdown state and local computer systems that were. used for things like voter rolls and election results. Now to be clear, it doesn't sound like an attack would have actually been able to change election results but could have seized up computers creating chaos on election day, and by the way Microsoft says, its efforts don't just help protect the election. It says it will also prevent cyber attacks on health care facilities, businesses, and colleges. FACEBOOK has long been criticized for not taking down post that deny the Holocaust ever happened. So now the company is reversing that stance the social network says it will ban any content that denies distorts history about the Holocaust facebook announced decision this week citing. Rise in anti-semitism and what it calls alarming ignorance about the Holocaust it pointed to a recent survey that found nearly a quarter of American eighteen to thirty nine year olds think the Holocaust was a myth exaggerated or they're not sure what to think about it. So it's worth repeating the Holocaust, did really happen prisoners were tortured concentration camps and ultimately. Nazi. Germany killed six million Jews and about five million others mostly in the nineteen forty s still a few years ago facebook CEO. Mark. Zuckerberg said, it wasn't facebook's job to take down post that were factually wrong. So this new policy is a big one eighty for him. In fact, facebook started taking a more aggressive approach against hate speech conspiracy theories and misinformation. All Right apple is expected to unveil its new iphone twelve today experts tell the verge up to four new models could be revealed. They're expected to have a new design with flat edges plus one of them might be apple's largest iphone ever apple seems to be dropping a hint. The iphone twelve will have the super fast five G. Network capabilities. It's Tagline for the event is high-speed as in hi comma speed we'll get more clarity later today apple streaming the reveal on apple dot com during its live event that starts at ten am Pacific Time. The phone won't be available to buy though until later this month. Today marks the start of Amazon Prime Day. The annual shopping event is now underway and will last through tomorrow. It usually happens in July but this year it was pushed back because of the pandemic, this Amazon's annual sales event were more than a million items are discounted over the two days and each year Amazon says it sees record sales for the company that's expected again even as some surveys show shoppers may spend less this year overall for the holidays prime members deals on everything from electronics and appliances to clothing and beauty products. Other major retailers are hosting rival sale events of their own this week such as target deal day. And that's it for the main news today. But now it's time for Trivia. Tuesday. When we ask a different trivia question every week today's Trivia question is what is the driest continent? You can answer this question in our quiz posted to instagram stories. So find and follow us on Instagram at Newsworthy pod to play along as for last week's trivia question. How many flowers must honeybees visit to make one pound of honey? The answer is about two million flowers. Of course, it's a collective effort. You'll never see a single bead churn out a pound of honey on average. They only make one twelfth of a teaspoon in their lifetime. Shout out to JC. Michelle Brian and everyone who played along on instagram. And that's it for today. Thanks again for making the newsworthy part of your daily routine. We'll be back with more news to know tomorrow until then have a great day.

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EPISODE  274 "What Happens When There is not Enough Medical Staff Left?"

Native Opinion Podcast an American Indian Perspective

39:52 min | 4 months ago

EPISODE 274 "What Happens When There is not Enough Medical Staff Left?"

"Diabetes just a genocide on slavery new would destroy their. there's a decoy. Every every and another wednesday night and i ain't got nobody up. Hello you've reached native opinion. We are an indigenous information and educational radio show and podcast every week. We talk about current affairs related to and from our own native. americans perspectives. My name is david gray. Al and we are native opinion. Welcome to the wednesday edition. Let's get a little housekeeping out of the way you can reach us by emailing us. At host at native opinion dot com. You can find us in twitter. Land ed native opinion over air facebook at facebook dot com forward slash native opinion podcast and always on our webpage at native opinion dot com. And you can also find this on your most favorite apple podcasts. Google podcasts radio republic stitcher. I hide radio or form from wherever you can download your favorite podcast. 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Please join under other wonderful folks. Like i knew its patron linda. Thank you linda who have contributed to this show by becoming a patron. You can find details on our website. Native opinion dot com forward slash support and on our facebook page. Just click on the learn more but great way to help is by telling other people about the show and we want you to know we think all of you for listening sharing show it truly does help us grow and as i always say we have the list best listening audience in the world. We want to thank you so much for your support in. You are again listening to our wednesday edition episode. Two seven four. What happens when there is not enough medical staff left. I had discussion with a few people about this very topic this week and it caught just about everyone off guard because nolan really thought about. What do we do if there's not enough medical staff to take care of the covid stricken patient when they really need the medical staff the most no one is really thinking about the loss of medical personnel due to covid and covid related Causes for the medical staff to become reduced so it was interesting conversations. I've had with the number of people medical colleagues and lay people alike but we have to understand that with the rising number of cases of kobe and the increased numbers of deaths from cogan medical personnel leaving positions of treatment and care and medical support personnel are leaving as well and some of those reasons are because of mental emotional physical exhaustion in some cases their own declining health. So these are things that have to be thought about and relation to how cove it is affecting literally everybody especially f our frontline workers. So let's let's give this some thought and keep those folks in our prayers because they are really really out there putting in long hours taking care of those that really need their help. So i don't know where else to take that other than you know. It seems that it always appears that the medical staff and support personnel or the last wants to be thought about even though people are thankful that they're the frontline workers they're human. They're not machines. They can't keep going twenty four seven. So let's let's think about them as well. They deserve that that consideration they deserve that support from outside the medical profession. So let's let's see what we can do to help them. I want to also thank mohican trading post. They are creators of fine authentic. Mohegan matt handmade craft and beadwork red shirts embroidered hats. Dream catchers and other specialty items. They now offer cloth mask with sizes for the entire family. 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Okay i mentioned in the open that there's lots of medical personnel leading for a number of reasons in relation to cope with this article. That i been thinking about for the past couple of weeks worries me considerably. The title of this article is doctors are calling it quits under stress the pandemic byline rates. Thousands of medical practices are closing as doctors and nurses decide to retire early or shift to less intense jobs in. This article was written by reed abelson for the new york times two years ago. Dr kelly. Mckee gregory opened her own pediatric practice. Just outside minneapolis which she could spend as much time as she wanted with patients and parents could get all their questions answered but just justice her practice was beginning to thrive the coronavirus hit the united states and began spreading across the country as an independent practice with no real connection to a big health system. It was awful. And that was a quote from dr gregory. At one point she had only three surgical mass left and worried that she can no longer safely treat. Patients families were also staying away concerned about catching the virus quoting again. I did some telemedicine but it wasn't enough volume to really replace what i was doing. In the clinic in quotes. She said after her husband found a new job in a different state. Dr gregory forty nine made the difficult decision to closer pediatric. Practice in august quoting. It was devastating. That was my baby in quotes. She said many other doctors are also calling it quits. Thousands of medical practices have closed during the pandemic according to a july survey of thirty five hundred doctors by the physicians foundation. A nonprofit group about eighty percent of the doctors reported closing their offices in recent months which the foundation estimated could equal to some sixteen thousand practices. That is a lot of medical personnel. Taking taken out of the equation another four percent said they plan to shudder within the next year other doctors nervous nurses excuse me are retiring earlier leaving the jobs some worry about around health because of age or a medical condition that puts them at high risk others stopped practicing dealing the worst of the outbreaks. And don't have the energy to start again. Some simply need a break from the told. The pandemic has taken among their ranks and their patients. Another analyst from the larry green center with the primary care collaborative nonprofit group bounce similar patterns nearly a fifth of primary care clinicians surveyed in september. Say someone in their practice plans to retire early or has already retired because of kobe. Nineteen and fifteen percent. Say someone has left or plans to leave the practice. The clinicians also painted a grim picture of their lives as the pandemic enters. A newly robust phase. With record case counts in the united states. About half already said their mental exhaustion was at all time high. Many worried about keeping their doors open about seven percent said they were not sure they could remain open past december without financial help for some family. Obligations left them. No choice quoting honestly. If it hadn't been for the pandemic i would still have been working because it was not my plan to retire at this at that point. Excuse me in quote said dr joan. Benko sixty five who worked as an anesthesiologist in madison wisconsin but her daughter and son-in-law hold administrative positions in a hospital intensive care unit treating the sickest. Kobe patience and they have two small children. When cases climbed in the spring their daycare center closed and opted bankas. Daughter desperately needed someone she trusted to look after the children quoting again the way i wanted to end my career i think for most of us we would say you would fall on your sword for your family but not for your job in quote adding that she knows other female colleagues who have stayed home to care for children and other relatives dr michael peck sixty six anesthesiologist in rockville maryland decided to leave after working in april in the hospital's intensive care unit intimating critically ill patients and worrying about his own health quoting when the day was over. I just said i think i'm done. I want to live my life. And i don't want to get ill. Ill quotes dr peck. Who has already been cutting back his hours. He is now spending a few hours a day as the chief medical officer for startup still. Those practices have proved resilient the paycheck protection program authorized by congress to help. Businesses including medical practices with the economic fallout from of the pandemic helped. Many doctors remain afloat. That money kind of made me solve. It said dr ripley hollister at family physician colorado springs who serves as chairman of the research committee for war the physicians foundation the volume. Now is really coming back. He said but depending on the future course of the pandemic dr louise. I'm sorry doctor lisa. i sorry. i can't pronounce the name co founder of guest health care and consulting firm a consulting firm. Excuse me predicts. Another wave of financial stress hitting practices. Many doctor's groups will seek a buyer whether a hospital insurance company or a private equity firm that plans to roll up practices into larger businesses. One doctor who has not to be identified because of the discussions are confidential. Say she and her partner had already been talking with the nearby hospital about buying their pediatric practice. Before the pandemic arrived the united states although federal aid it's helped patient visits are still fifteen percent below normal and they are continually worried about making payroll having enough doctors and staff to see patients as the number of virus cases. Blue balloon in the mid west who are employee's must deal with increasingly agitated patients quoting the yelling and cussing at my staff. It's hard it's a hard job to be to begin with to own your own business. She said working for a medic medicine firm might be an alternative. She said the chronic crisis has amplified problems. That doctors were already facing whether they own their own practices or are employed a lot of physicians or hanging on by a thread from burn out before the pandemic even started. It's dr susan riley the president of the american medical association. There's more to this article. It'll be in the show notes. Please please give it a read now. You see all i gave you. A glimpse of how little support medical personnel are receiving because of this pandemic when it's forcing already struggling practices to some degree struggling practices too close or too close because of health health fears or or other reasons. We we are looking at something. That's not going to bode well if we lose too many medical profession professionals and support staff. Who's going to take care of the sick. So these are things we have to think about. I'm sure congresses and thinking addict. i don't think they're thinking about it at all so again. It's it's up to us. We the people to light fires under lethargic bunch to get people moving lawmakers who are supposed to be looking out after the welfare of people like these doctors and nurses and support staff. It makes me sad to read the story. Because i know what a lot of these these people are talking about pre pandemic. The medical profession is not easy. I'm appeared tell you firsthand. It is not easy. And then you compound that with a pandemic it makes it an unattainable profession. Something has to give somewhere. And it's usually in the form of medical professionals and support people leaving because it's just become to unbearable to keep up with the same long hours over patient loads a name it. I'm sure some of the listeners out there that are medical professionals and support staff. No exactly what i'm talking about. So let's see what we can do to help. Ease the burden on these medical people. By like i said building fires on lethargic butts congress. What we can do personally is where your mask. That's just one less patient. they may have to worry about. Let's do our part wear a mask. This article is kind of just as bad as the first one i wrote read. Excuse me and the title of this article is north dakota. Nurses worry about working with sick colleagues and this is an article from the associated. Press james mcpherson stephanie. Groves and it's posted in indian country today dot com bismarck. North dakota north dakota. There are many medical workers around the world. Fargo emergency room nurse adam. Johnson can't escape the grammar -ality of the krona virus pandemic it follows him everywhere and work where people die for shift at the grocery store where people rail against cities mask requirement and at home where he struggles to sleep. He's gotten through the long months. Including north dakota's current virus wave that. It's among the worst in the us by finding solis with fellow nurses during brief breaks where they can swap tips on beating insomnia or just bent frustrations but he and many of the nurses fear. Things are about to get even harder. Now that governor doug burgum has allowed the state's beleaguered hospitals to use infected but ace symptomatic workers to treat covid nineteen patients on my gosh. It's going to make you question every time you want to sit down and grab a five minute snack with winning coworkers. Johnson says who is the president of the state's emergency nurses association quote. You've always got to think. Am i six feet away from them and my safe am i not in quote. Burgum said his decision could help north dakota's hospitals which are at or near capacity after a surge of cases that began over the summer and has only gotten worse. Is this guy out of his mind. This governor burgum is the out of his mind just because someone is a symptomatic as these nurses and doctors know that are being forced to work with infected people does. The governor not realized that those people are still carriers. Amazing but johnson. Many other nurses feel he saddling them with yet another burden. While resisting posing common safeguards to staunch the spread of the virus that might be less politically palatable and the conservative state like some of his republican counterparts in other states that have had big spikes in covid nineteen cases burgum for months took a business friendly approach that puts the responsibility for slowing the virus on individuals rather than government and dates college way out so as to protect both lives and livelihoods that was a quote from that wonderful governor burgum. It wasn't until friday and the data. That article is fifteen member. Twenty twenty but it wasn't until the following friday that he began to relent in order to statewide mask mandate and certain restrictions on businesses. And gatherings. okay. I i'm glad that he saw the light but he saw the light after the horse was already out of the barn. You can't shut the door when the horses already gone. Because you're not gonna keep it in reading on the hands off. Approach didn't work. After avoiding the explosion of cases that many of the states experienced early in the pandemic the virus has run rampant in north dakota yet thank which now regularly breaks. Its daily record. Highs of cases and deaths bergamo who've which is permitted under centers for disease control and prevention guidelines reflects the scary of medical workers in one of the hardest hit regions in the country. Said thomas sinai and assistant professor at harvard. School of public held. He said hospitals across the country are weighing such options as cases sore. I i really hope. They're not gonna follow that governors insane policy letting eight symptomatic infected people work. Gosh that's the case in south dakota which allows the practice but we're where none of the major hospitals are currently using infected workers. Thank goodness in the spring and early summer in places like new york medical workers from around the country. We're able to fly. In and volunteer. Providing relief for hospitals size of the virus is now so widespread that there is little hope for such relief in north dakota. Think your governor. The state's major hospitals pushed bergamo administration to allow them to have infected but a symptomatic. Staffers treat covid nineteen patients quoting. We applaud the governor for another tool. We can use and quote said michael. Lebow the head of sanford health bismarck which is developing protocols to allow such employees to work in a dedicated covid nineteen unit after it is found to be safe for its employees and patients. I'm not even gonna read that again. It sounds like a pencil. Pusher is writing these policies from an hmo sanford health bismarck. I'm going to have to research them at find out who they are. They sound like a health management organization. I will find out the article goes on goes on. He said the he expects hospital. Hundreds of healthcare workers to support the move at quit safe are in place but tessa johnson. Who has the north dakota nurses association said the group surveyed hundreds of its members this week and we're not at all thrilled with the decision. Okay so reading that sentence right. There tells me that sanford health bismarck is in fact a health management organization or something of that nature. I can't for the life of me believe that someone would be that shortsighted to create a policy. That says oh go ahead and go to work if you're infected. You're a symptomatic so you're safe. No that's not the way it works. You're not safe even though you may not have any symptoms you're still carrying the virus and guess what you can still pass it on somebody else. Quoting mrs johnson. I know nurses who leave work every day and crying the car before they go to see their kids. I don't know how much more we can take quote under the cdc guidelines as symptomatic infected medical workers who intend to treat kobe. Nineteen patients must take their temperatures before every shift and confirmed. They don't have any symptoms. Workers with even mild symptoms aren't allowed to treat patients. That's if everybody's gonna be on the honor system. Dr marcus zia. The chief medical officer with the association of state and territorial health officials pointed out that hospitals will have to determine if naming employees with infections is a violation of hippo laws. Okay there's another elephant in the room though. He said that rigorous use of protective equipment in kobe on its should prevent infections from spreading between hospital staff. Even if co workers don't know who is infected. Well that's a crock. Because once they take off the p. e. then they're co mingling with their coworkers and if they're infected but as symptomatic they're still carrying the virus and can still spread the virus. They're not walking around those floors. And p p i'm telling you from experience being a patient. Kobe patient being stricken with kobe pneumonia. They do not walk around those floors guide in protective equipment. So i don't know. I don't know who's making these rules. But somebody's playing russian roulette with people's lives the article bills on say but the rule change could also place internal and external pressure on effective staff members to work when they should be at home recovering. Plus you said the. I think so. Many nurses say they're already at a breaking point and so much starting to feel hopeless quoting. We're getting stretched so thin and there is no end in sight in quote said cammie lynn. A nurse at a hospital in fargo which is north dakota's largest city and which last month adopted its own mask requirement. Though it doesn't penalize noncompliance quoting we don't know how long this is going to last or if it at it or if excuse me it's at peak or if it's going to get worse quote. The grief is the toughest part she says quoting again. There's a lot of loss that it's hard to take bam leaves drop off one and adore thinking things are going to be okay. And sometimes they're not in quote she said healthcare. I'm sorry health workers. Worry that even. If asem dramatic infected collie limited to cope her are limited. Kobe donuts they could still spread the disease in break. Rooms cafeterias restrooms and other shared areas. Exactly that's exactly what the worry should be. But they're pencil pushers that are making decisions on people's lives and in my opinion having eight symptomatic but infected workers continue to work is a recipe for disaster. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to figure that out. Reading on kristin rogers hospital administrator and republican state senator from fargo said berga move well help hospitals continue to care for patients but she also acknowledged that it presented dilemma for hospital staff. Rowers who is also rages registered nurse has an increasingly been working with patients because staffing has gotten so then quoting. I can't totally understand the trepidation. But i mean what do you do. When there's nobody left to care for patients in quote she said okay. So you see. There's more fallout more damage from kobe. Being done than most people see. I just shared with you a little piece of what covert it's causing with medical personnel and support personnel and. Some people may say. Well what's the big deal. The big deal is if you lose enough of those medical and support people where all screwed because who's going to take care of the sick who's going to end debate. Those people that need to be on a respirator. You your next door neighbor officer bob. Fire- firefighter jane. I don't think so. Do your part don't become a statistic. Don't become a patient where your mask think about these people who have to care for the hundreds of people daily who have been infected some due to no fault of their own and some due to their own the on shortcomings of believing that this thing is a hoax. Do your part wear a mask. It will help those medical professionals and support people more than you know and i. I've said support people a number of times each time. I mentioned medical personnel. And they'll support people are housekeeping food service hematology urology all of different facets in the medical profession are being affected by this pandemic. Do your part where the mask please. Because i can guarantee if someone becomes a victim of covid and there's nobody there to take care of them and they need hospitalization. It's going to be a rough ride. Do your part please. I don't know what else say beyond that. This is affecting everybody. No one's immune. The virus isn't selective doesn't care who you are rich or poor doesn't matter do your part please. All right on that note. Going to play out. And i want to thank you all for being with me on the wednesday addition and i will see you saturday with my brother. I go kicking beer. On native opinion on our live show fantasy. Twitter land reach us on our facebook page facebook or you can leave us meal and his eight six five hundred zero. Now thank you for being with me same mass.

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#58: Our Take, July 1, 2019

Health Care Rounds

12:43 min | 1 year ago

#58: Our Take, July 1, 2019

"The. Welcome to health care rounds. The podcast, serving you the ins and outs of health policy and business topics as well as our take on the rapidly evolving healthcare, delivery ecosystem, I'm your host, John Murcia CEO of Darwin research group, and faculty associate at the WTO Carey school of business and the college of health solutions at Arizona State University. In our lead story this week, the supreme court has agreed to hear arguments from health insurers who claim that twelve point three billion in losses after the federal government reneged on payments owed to certain payers under provisions in if oral Care Act. Business leaders including the chamber of commerce had urged the court to review an appellate court ruling in June twenty eighteen at health and human services is not obligated to make risk corridor payments to insurers in an amicus brief filed in March the chamber of commerce wrote, quote, this case is significant to the chamber because many of its members, do business and partner with the federal government in variety of critical areas. He's dealings are often conducted pursuant to federal statutes that include financial incentives risk sharing arrangements by ability, limitations. In other provisions that congress implemented to induce the private sector to participate in the federal. Program, such statutory commitments can only be effective. However, if the federal government honors its obligations to the business community and conducted self as a reliable business partner, and quote, the supreme court will hear the case during its next term. Here's our take of the torrent of news, this week that could be considered for our take this one has the greatest potential, national impact touching business health policy and consumer health concerns, long-term readers will recognize that we've written about this issue extensively. The three year risk corridor program, which ended in twenty sixteen was designed to encourage insurers to participate in the individual insurance exchanges by protecting them against extreme losses pairs whose costs were below a set amount paid into the program and those funds were then redistributed to ensures whose costs exceeded a set amount. Led by Senator Marco Rubio, congress, nixed the program in December twenty four teen with an appropriations Bill that blocked any extra payments for the program, the on the user fee is collected from profitable insurers. Arguing that funding for the program wasn't explicitly enumerated in the ACA three years of unpaid funds insurers amounted to twelve point three billion ironically, the risk corridor program was modeled after a similar scheme in the Medicare Part, d drug benefit that was an acted when Republicans controlled both chambers of congress in the White House. Insures were promised this money through the ACA as a means to encourage participation on the exchanges when congress reneged on his promise hairs, balked in headed for the exits lacking competition, premium price increases ensued, if the Affordable Care ACT's risk corridor program had been left intact insurance premiums on the individual market likely would have increased just ten percent between twenty fifteen and twenty seventeen. According to an analysis by the national bureau of economic research, or NBC are instead premiums increased thirty seven percent during that period. Extrapolation NBC are researchers estimated that ending the program accounted. For eighty six percent of all premium growth on the exchanges between twenty fifteen twenty seventeen. We should emphasize that premiums have increased for employers as well, but not nearly at the rate of premiums on the exchanges using data from the Kaiser family foundation. We estimate that premiums for families increased on average four point six percent each year from two thousand eight to twenty eighteen individual premiums rose in adverage, four point one percent per year during the same period in any case, one might argue that premium increases were inevitable during that time because premiums were underpriced begin with at the start of the ACA, which is why some payers, not all lost money in certain markets. But it's hard to argue that premium price increases would have been as steep. If there were healthy competition among health insurance plans. The reason why this case matters goes to the point raised by the chamber of commerce businesses that engage with the government on programs like the ACA expect the federal government to be reliable business partners. Hairs got involved in ObamaCare, because they were assured that at least for the first two years, the risk of pricing insurance in an uncertain market would be mitigated by government operating in good faith if the federal government reneges on its promises and allowed to do so, which so far has been the case insurers and other businesses will hesitate to participate the next time it asks them to do. So. Here's what else you need to know. Abby is set to buy Allergan for approximately sixty three billion the two companies announced Tuesday that they've entered into a definitive agreement abbey's offer includes point eight six share of abbvie common stock, and one hundred twenty dollars cash for each share of allergen common stock reflecting a forty five percent premium to allergens closing price last Monday, the deal, which would make abbvie the fourth largest drug maker in the world is expected to close early next year. Allergan chairman and CEO Saunders will serve on abbey's board. Meanwhile, Pfizer who offered to pay one hundred sixty billion to buy Allergan in twenty fifteen but backed out because of tax roll changes has agreed to acquire a Ray bio pharma for proximate proximity eleven point four billion, according to a joint press statement, visor will pay forty eight dollars per share in cash a premium of about. Sixty two percent based on raise closing price before the announcement, arrays area of focus is cancer and other diseases of high unmet need that transaction is expected to close later this year. An executive order signed by President Donald Trump last Monday directs the department of health and human services, or HHS, and other federal agencies to draft new rules in guidance that would increase the transparency of healthcare price in quality information. A goal is to enable consumers to make informed choices and compare prices for shop -able services common services that can be researched ahead of time. Other directives in the executive order pertained to regulations for health savings, accounts, direct primary care, arrangements and health care sharing ministries, greater access to claims data for research purposes and solid in quality measures across federal healthcare programs and steps to address surprise billing. Depending on how aggressive the new proposed rules end up being, they could face legal push-back like HHS's rule requiring drug manufacturers to disclose list. Prices TV ads has Amgen ally, Willie and Merc recently sued HHS CMS to block the rule, which is supposed to take effect on July ninth. Sanford, health and unity point health signed a letter of intent to explore merger. The companies announced Friday combined system would have more than eleven billion in annual revenue with perations in twenty six days to nine countries including hospitals physician groups clinics health plans clinical research, and other lines of business while still in the exploratory stages of the deal. The company said that the new company would be led by Kelly crabbing off as president and CEO in Kevin Vermeer, as senior executive vice president crabbing Hof is currently Sanford, CEO, and Vermeer is president and chief executive for unity point. While timelines are still fluid leaders expect the deal to close by the end of twenty nineteen. The transaction is subject to customary regulatory reviews. City MD and summit medical group have agreed to merge city MD has more than one hundred twenty urgent care locations in New York, New jersey and Washington DC based in Berkeley. Heights, New Jersey summit, medical group, is an independent multi specialty medical practice with over nine hundred physicians more than eighty locations throughout the US terms of the agreement were not provided in the organization, joint press announced, but. Nor from Oriel health and Blue Cross and Blue Shield of Minnesota will share ownership of north memorials twenty primary care and specialty care clinics in a joint venture announced last Monday, Fritz parent company, Blue Cross Blue shield of Minnesota will acquire a forty nine percent stake in the clinics which are located throughout the twin cities north memorials president Jennifer close will serve as CEO of the joint venture, which will begin operating in January twenty twenty as a separate business with an emphasis on value based payments, rather than volume of services. A goal is to reduce the cost of care by up to twenty percent in five years. Southern California city of hope, when vest more than one billion dollars to create a comprehensive cancer campus in Irvine, California. According to a recent press release the organization is partnering with five point holdings to develop the campus which will include an outpatient treatment center and clinical research center both expected to open by mid twenty twenty one and Orange County's only inpatient specialty hospital, dedicated solely to treating and curing cancer expected to open in twenty twenty five mayo clinic also announced plans last week to invest two hundred twenty three million dollars in new cancer treatment facility on its Jacksonville Florida campus that will include proton being therapy. Mayo expects the facilities to be completed in late twenty twenty three. Finally, here's some executive moose doctor J one real is geissinger, new president and CEO effective July first is served in both roles on an interim basis. Since November prior to that he was danville, PA based health systems, executive vice president and chief medical officer. Earlier in his career doctor who held leadership roles at Humana the university of Illinois hospital and health sciences system. Kaiser Permanente and CMS. He was also a White House fellow at the VA. Partners healthcare has chosen Dr and Calabasas key as its new president and CEO. She was named interim president and CEO in February previously. She was the health systems chief academic officer. She was also chief of neuro endocrine at Massachusetts General Hospital. She is the Laurie, Carol guttered professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and an academic dean for partners at Harvard. Finally United health group announced it is named Dirk McMahon to lead United Healthcare its core health insurance. Business McMahon is currently president and chief operating officer or UHG's Optum unit he replaces Steve Nelson was retiring from United Healthcare as chief executive officer. That's all for this week from all of our when research group. Thanks for listening, if you haven't yet done so, please rate, and review healthcare rounds, wherever you listen to podcasts. Healthcare rounds is produced by Deanna Nicola JR. And engineered by Andrew Roja the music by John Murcia, Darwin research group provides advanced market intelligence and in-depth customer insights to healthcare, executives are strategic focus is on healthcare, delivery systems, and the global shift toward value based care. To learn more about us, go to Darwin research dot com or sending Email to insights at Darwin research dot com or if you'd like to get right to it. Call us at eight four zero two three four six five c next around.

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Sunday, December 6, 2020

NBC Nightly News

24:25 min | 4 months ago

Sunday, December 6, 2020

"You know what this is a commercial right and you know what that means. Time for snack raw. I want you to do some heart. Healthy exercise yes you try. Some seated like extensions right now just lift each leg up and extended straight one at a time. Six to eight times. I can do that. Yes you can remember. Every commercial is a chance to sneak. In heart healthy activity visit find exercise anywhere dot com and speak with your doctor to learn more about the risks of heart failure. Tonight on lockdown. Most of the state being ordered to stay home starting tonight. Residents can't gather with anyone outside their household but there are sheriff's refusing to enforce the new rules. These closures and stay at home. Orders are flat out ridiculous. The vaccine rolling out in the uk delivered to hospitals today. We've been waiting for this moment. The country begins its vaccinations in just two days in the us. The new timeline for the vaccine and the major challenges ahead rural areas without enough freezers and the city. That's been prepping for months to get residents ready desperate measures. The new field hospital just opened as one city warns it will run out of beds within weeks. Rudy giuliani test positive. For the corona virus as president trump gives his first major speech since the election. Local republicans spent today refuting it. The government report. I obtained by. Nbc news was a foreign adversary hitting american diplomats with microwave radiation to make them sick. Plus the show must go on the nutcracker in the age of kovin the sugar plum fairy dancing under the stars. This is nbc nightly news with kate snow. Good evening there is some hope on the horizon at the start of a new week the first doses of the pfizer vaccine landing in british hospitals. Today and here in the us the fda set to meet this thursday to consider emergency authorization for that same vaccine but that hope is overshadowed at the moment by far too many cases of corona virus and deaths california just announced they recorded thirty thousand cases yesterday a new record in that state and the strain on capacity at intensive care units. There is leading to new. Stay at home orders tonight. We have every angle covered. We begin with meghan fitzgerald tonight. Thirty three million californians hours away from lockdown people told to stay home stop gathering no more in-person dining and reduced retail as health officials tried to save hospitals and crisis. The governor's orders in effect at least through the holidays. Bottom line is if we don't act now. Our hospital system will be overwhelmed. Fear turning to frustration for restaurant owners. I'm losing everything. Everything i own is being taken away from me. And they set up a movie company right next to my outdoor patio and for so many other workers forced to close down desperation. We've been taking one for the team. And there is nothing left to give like nothing left in some parts of southern california defiance the sheriff of orange and riverside county saying they won't enforce the state's new stay at home orders riverside county sheriff's department not be blackmailed bullied or used as muscle against riverside county residents in the enforcement of the governor's orders even as the virus surges to unprecedented levels in both county conflicting messaging and patchwork enforcement causing confusion. It adds a lot of confusion to long desperate pleas from the nation's top doctors for american. Take this seriously. Want to be very frank to the american people. The vaccines critical. But it's not gonna save us from this current surge only we can save us from this current surge and we know precisely what to do across the nation. No region spared more than one hundred thousand americans. Now hospitalized new orders out to contain the crisis eight states adding restrictions in the last week. Alone families like barbara zeman's who've lost loved ones know far too. Well how serious. The pandemic really is the pain of losing. Her father will never go away a lot. More families are gonna be in my shoes and it didn't have to be this way. Meghan joins us from los angeles. Megan how will officials know if these measures are working out there officials say it takes at least two weeks to see if there's any results from these restrictions so here los angeles county It's been eleven days since outdoor dining was prohibited which means they could see any potential improvements as soon as next week meghan fitzgerald. Thank you tonight. We're getting our first. Look at the covid vaccine just arriving at hospitals in the uk and by this time next week the same thing could be happening here in the us. Sarah harmon has details after much anticipation. They're here tonight. The first doses the pfizer vaccine have arrived in british hospitals to know that they are here and we are amongst the first in the country to actually receive the vaccine in there for the first in. The world is just amazing. I'm so proud. Staff are working overtime preparing to start giving shots on tuesday the uk has ordered forty million doses enough for twenty million people but only about eight hundred thousand doses. We'll be available next week. Have any concerns. I have concerns about kovic And i would rather have the vaccination. The not one is quickly as possible. So i can get on the rest of my life. Meanwhile in the us the fda is considering emergency authorization for both the pfizer and moderna vaccines. The pfizer. decision is expected on december tenth within twenty four hours of fda green lighting with authorization. We'll ship to all of the states and territories that that we work with and within hours they can be vaccinating. An initial forty million doses is expected in the next month. We're going to focus on those most vulnerable and those most on the front lines of treating people with kovin with the initial forty million doses and the next month. And then we're just gonna progressively keep adding more and more people so be thinking in the february march time frame that you're going to see more general vaccination and by the second quarter of next year. We'll we'll have enough vaccine for every american that wants back in britain there's more demand than doses with those over eighty and nursing home and staff first in line. The ninety four year old queen expected to be among those vaccinated in the coming weeks. But she won't get priority treatment and sarah's with a sarah have medical professionals bumped into any challenges in planning the rolette for this vaccine. Kate saint thomas. Hospital here in london is among the first to start vaccinating on tuesday and it is proving challenging to transport. Volunteers care home residents to these hospital. Vaccinations sites so in fact it will likely be people over eighty who have existing hospital appointments. Who are going to get the first doses. Kate right. Sarah thank you with hospitals around the country almost out of room back here in the us. Some cities are taking desperate measures. Tonight kathy park has a first look inside a massive arena. That's been transformed a care for hundreds of covid patients tonight. Hospitalization surging in massachusetts triggering. Emergency response sometimes. I wish they can see what we see in hospital to really have a hit home. Worcester's dcu convention center turn field. Hospital is now ready to receive coronavirus patients. Nbc news given access minutes before they arrived. Bay is over here. He'll come through that door in the moment they come through. This entire facility is a hot zone until the day that we close in the spring. They treated approximately one hundred sixty patients they can. Now take up to two hundred twenty but the growing fear. Is that the space. We'll fill up the end of the month. Frontline workers are gearing up for the post thanksgiving surge. We're ready to go again respiratory therapists and kovic survivor jeff. Russell came from north carolina. Fully prepared to help. Yeah yeah maybe eight weeks maybe twelve weeks maybe longer. We'll see armed with critical. Pp eat and new treatments. The team is going into battle with the virus with a stockpile of more resources including space where patients can interact with each other. And how much does this effort to bring a sense of community among the patients help in their recovery. I think it makes all the difference in the world. I think we truly had people dying of loneliness tackling the second surge better equipped than before. Cathy joins us now from worcester massachusetts. Kathy what are health officials. They're telling you is the biggest challenge. They are being challenged with staffing. A lot of healthcare workers across his day are getting sick with the virus in each time to recover plus with cases viking all across the country. They're not able to call it out of doctors and nurses like they did in the spring. Kate kathy park. Thank you some breaking news. Now on the political front rudy giuliani. Who is leading the president's efforts to overturn the election. Results has tested positive for coronavirus. The president tweeted that news out today as his comments from a rally last night came under fire from some fellow republicans. Kelly o'donnell is at the white house tonight. Cove it hits. Another trump insider rudy giuliani. Who's been on the road in four states leading the president's election challenge representing him on tv. This morning i think georgia were probably the furthest along hours later. The president announced giuliani's cova diagnosis on twitter. Get better soon rudy. We will carry on. The president put resentment stage in georgia. They cheated and they rigged our presidential election. But we will win it we will. So while supporters indulge the president's false and unfounded allegations vowing to fight for trump today new pushback from republican officials in georgia. Who have had enough. The president's statements are false. There's information they are getting anger and senior amongst quarters and voted for him. At stake is more than the president's future party control of the senate will be decided by georgia's pair of runoff races worry that this continuous fanning the flames around misinformation puts us in a negative position with regards to the january fifth runoff. The president wants georgia governor. Brian kemp to convene state legislators to overturn the certified biden victory a starter urged to intervene by trump ally kayleigh mcenany who slipped breaking character. We lose these two senate seats. Guess who's casting the deciding vote in this country for our government. It will be connell harris during his ninety nine minute performance. The president tried to wish defeat away at twenty twenty four. I want to go back three weeks. Kelly joins us now. Some breaking news about biden cabinet pick to lead the department of health and human services in this time of covert. Nbc news confirms that joe biden will nominate how they are. Sarah who's currently california's attorney general. Former member of congress. The sixty two year old has been from his california office leading a lot of the litigation to protect obamacare. Kate kelly at the white house us. Kelly thank you when we come back gearing up the massive effort to get the kobe vaccine into america's smaller towns and cities. 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Listen to wonder season of even the rich on apple podcasts spotify or the wondering as soon as this week a cova vaccination could be approved for use here in the us but that will be just the beginning next. The monumental challenge of getting americans actually vaccinated two reports tonight beginning with josh burns on. Just how hard it will be to reach. Rural areas in south dakota hospitals hit hard or only in a crisis situation rural regions facing a lack of access and resources now faced with the daunting task of distributing vaccine for sanford health. The largest health system in the region cold storage is the key here in sioux falls. South dakota sanford. Medical center has two freezers. One for the pfizer vaccine in one for modern they have eight of these older cold freezers strategically placed so they can reach those more remote communities. Each freezer cost ten to fifteen thousand dollars and can hold about seventy five thousand doses of the vaccine double doors so the door latch on it. You can actually lock this and then inside your worth that phil sells for storage very cold. How critical is having this. Technology gives us a lot more control on how we've been distributed vaccinated patients. Dean weber is responsible for getting the vaccine to the people. Sanford serves as a population of about one million spread over an area this size of texas. This is a considerable effort to be able to distribute. The vaccines are drovers put on a lot of miles over eleven thousand miles a day. These carriers are driving. So that's something like three million a year long distances but not all rural health systems can meet the challenge worries about storage in kansas only about ten different hospitals in the empire state that have that capability and distribution in wisconsin. So there will be hubs around our state and will partner with our state and our county health department to distribute those outside of art house system preparation with dose of hope. Things could look very different this coming spring and summer. It's been a long haul these people in the hospital. I've been working long shifts. really hard. Dasa burns nbc. News south dakota once the vaccine is ready convincing people to take it is a whole other story so we had our senior medical correspondent. Dr john torres spend months following one health department working on a big plan to build trust wants to covert vaccine is approved. The rollout will be a massive challenge but one of the biggest hurdles trust what they're doing the back and you saw want it. It may work. It may not. But i'm not going to be a guinea pig that's why denver's public health department created an ambitious program to connect with underserved communities. Who need the vaccine most. We've been following their progress since september. Who are the people that you're hoping to reach by doing this. The people are trying to reach our people that don't usually access health services or go to retail pharmacy. So if we think about it are essential workers which are often black introduced people of color a challenge. Experts say since many minorities distrust the medical community. Perfect so dr judah schley and her team mapped out. The city's cove hotspots and spent months building relationships by bringing flu vaccines into those areas. This a test run for and -ticipant with the kobe. Nineteen vaccine yes. This is a test run. The goal make it safe free fast and friendly. The team created partnerships with local leaders and on social media bringing pop-up clinics to shelters community centers foodbanks. Even fire houses. For leslie williams. Convenience was key was a super easy. And i wanna make sure that we continue to have these resources on our community. We just check back in with the teams. How did it go over thirty. Three hundred scenes A mainly food that teams in the community. What did they learn. Host clinics later in the day when people are home from work and school spread the message in many languages and create trust by pairing the same health teams with local neighborhoods. What's next for you in this program. We want to that. Were build it out for the colby vaccine. And then mitigate pandemic and get people back to work and feeling comfortable about society commitment to building bridges for better health vac dr john torres. Nbc news denver. Still ahead the fallout from the massive nor'easter and dancing under the stars the dazzling new ways so many are enjoying the nutcracker this season there's news tonight about what has been one of the biggest puzzles in the shadowy world of intelligence what caused the mysterious illnesses for dozens of american diplomats and spies in cuba china and elsewhere. Leaving some with permanent brain injuries can delaney was first to report what government scientists believe was the cause can. What do we know now. Good evening kate while these afflictions were i dubbed havana syndrome because they were experienced i back in two thousand sixteen by american diplomat at the. Us embassy there who experienced the dizziness They heard a loud sound and doctors were at a loss For what was causing these symptoms but now a report by the national academy of sciences engineering and medicine has included. The most plausible explanation was directed radiofrequency energy and other words microwave energy. Not the kind of comes out of cell phones but pulse waves of intense energy that can damage tissue and candidate believed. This was done deliberately. They're not saying directly cape with the scientists did point out that russia has for decades done experiments on microwave weapons and nbc news reported back in two thousand eighteen. The us intelligence officials consider these to be potential attacks by microwave. Weapons and that. Russia was a leading suspect. But they don't have hard evidence on that kate. All right thank you. That big nor'easter is winding down tonight at brought high winds and more than a foot of heavy wet snow in some parts of the northeast and now crews are working to restore power to more than two hundred thousand customers throughout new england authorities at jfk. Airport here in new york are investigating a bomb scare tonight port authority. Police are responding to the incident involving an aeroflot flight that landed from moscow just after three pm passengers safely evacuated. The airport is open and now operating without delay coming up. The show must go on the new and inspiring ways. The christmas classic nutcracker is playing out across the country. There's good news tonight about bringing back holiday magic when we need it. Most beloved ballet the nutcracker has been reimagined. The classic now dazzling audiences in a brand new way in the town known as the christmas capital of texas. The curtain is rising. The iconic nutcracker performed city of grapevine by the north central ballet director less jordan refused to let kovic canceled their tradition of a good show but instead of an indoor theatre they're outdoors with safety protocols like masks backstage and onstage when dancers are close even squares at a distance to show families where to sit. Been the most challenging thing. Wondering if we're really going to be able to do this. But i think everyone is so ready to do something normal especially at the holiday season dancer is playing the sugarplum fairy for the first time and just so happy that get the show. The show must go on the audience delighted. We might be a little bit cold but it's worth it so rat king and the soldier king. It's it's always our tradition to watch the nutcracker and the fact that it still gets to happen just really makes it feel like it's christmas and things still can be sort of more and a thrill for dancers back on stage for the first time since the pandemic began. I'm just humbled and so extremely grateful to be able to do this right now. Across the country ballet companies are getting creative like this production at an estate in. New york's hudson valley or the american ballet theatre broadcasting on a times square billboard and the city ballet of san diego set to stream online and in person at a drive in theater performers determined to bring little joy. When i hear the score of the nutcracker i feel something it feels like christmas to me lutely. Yeah me too many times. I've done this show. I could do it in my sleep backward and forward but there's something about it when you hear that music you just know. It's just christmas even just now. You feel it. 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Voice in the Operating Room with Heather Utzig of Pragmatic Voice

Voice First Health

26:05 min | 10 months ago

Voice in the Operating Room with Heather Utzig of Pragmatic Voice

"Dr Terry Fisher, physician and voice technology futurist. Boy Spurs. Technology is rapidly becoming the operating system of our lives, and it will completely revolutionized the way experience healthier. Let's talk voice. Hello and welcome to today's episode of Voice I health, a great episode for you today and today I'm speaking with. Heather Hudson who is the CO founder and CEO of Matic Voice. She's got an extensive background in healthcare. You'll hear and today. She talks a little bit about her voice applications that they have been developing specifically and how it helps, the operating room and helping surgeons keep track of. And that sort of thing, which by the way I've said this before I think the operating room is one of those really great places that voice applications can really shine, so I think you're in for real treat here. I hope you enjoyed this episode and stay tuned because of the end I've got a big big announcement another about another event coming up and I'm really excited to share that with you in personally, invite you to join us as well so that any further here is the podcast with heather. Heyer welcome to the PODCAST. It's great to have you here. Hi Terry Thank you nice to spend time with you today. I'm really excited to speak about all the cool things that you are doing, but before we get to that, let's learn a little bit about you, so maybe I can ask you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about your background. Okay. I'm the CO founder and CEO of Pragmatic Boyce pragmatic voice. company that provides development services for companies are. In particular healthcare. For bringing their technology or any of their applications onto the voice platform, and then we also our product company, we've developed several products in the healthcare space with voice enablement. I am have been in the healthcare industry for twenty five years, working in a hospital during college to being even an insurance, and then the pharmaceutical medical device world, and then worked on bringing innovative products to the United States from around the world and have had the opportunity to work in many different areas in the hospital and in healthcare, and when I learned more about voice became very interested in how we can apply this technology to healthcare in general. Perfect so you've got lots of background. Obviously in the healthcare space I'm always interested to hear about the stories of how somebody got interested in voice. And what was your introduction to that? So could you share a little about that? Yeah so I was developing technology myself for. Another company that I own and I had requested voice to be developed for it because. This is around instrumentation in general, and we work with service providers on repairing and looking at infection for the instruments inside of hospitals and surgical centers in one of the things that happens in that particular dynamic people are needed to be hands free, and they're also very active in moving around, so they're not really sitting in front of a computer, and in the process of of wanting to have that developed. fortunately met my co-founder, and really learns quite a bit about voice in have been part of this journey of seeing you know all the applications, but also realizing that there's at this stage. We're really on the. Emerging Space for, US. I? Have enjoyed, myself Quite a few products I loved audible from the very beginning. Would burn discs that I love I. Love Anything. That's really in the. audio voice world, and just I think they applications will be an are very very beneficial, more user friendly and can also help us well. We're really moving around. Perfect and so I think that's a nice segue into what you guys are doing with with your company, pragmatic voice in the healthcare space so. Maybe you can talk a about the origin of some of the things that you are working on the ideas, and how you saw the opportunity to get involved in, and then go to describe a little bit of what you are doing. Yes so. Since I. Have the healthcare background naturally? Considering how voice can be applied just just when you see the problems and you look at the solutions and and how? At the health care space really it's about human connection generally especially wins on the patient doctor, side and then even just with the staff that the fact that there's so many moving parts there. Most people in healthcare are just not sitting behind a computer and. Re when of the things that became particularly interesting to me was just looking at those times where people would have to stop. Try to find a computer when in reality and healthcare. Everyone's moving very very fast. And I also was. Really going through a lot with supporting some companies that were developing Emr's and or HR's back in two thousand ten twenty eleven and twelve and the government in the United States was providing incentive packages in watching the frustration with tech for the healthcare practitioners in general in seeing that they didn't have a human connection so really at that stage voice. There are things that were emerging. Yeah, obviously dragging actual speaking without that wasn't really a You know that was the independent instance. It's not being used to the device road and general. And when I started to really. See like all the other applications with the the Amazon Echo or just stephen to can even download the APPs really on our phone with Google and in Alexa. Being able to spe-, EEK really allows for the Bahrain to stay on task. I found if you've ever talked much about cognitive switching. We can naturally speak very well and continue a task without it having to be stopping. Switching. Just like. When people tax or do they go to computer? We can actually continue our flow in conversation with our action. That were doing at the same time. If you can talk about that, even a little bit. That's interesting from your side. No I find that fascinating, and so you know, give it given that. What have you gone on to create what what is? What is a pragmatic voice? What are you doing? Okay. Well. Thanks for asking that. We actually work with healthcare companies and a facilities in the physician level. With looking at how they can place A. Applications on voice how that is influenced related to hippo privacy, and those areas with that we have developed some actual, physical or some products. Along with the development hand in hand with the healthcare personnel, one is instrument voice. Instrument blades it basically works inside of a hospital or surgery center or doctor's office, where there's instrumentation that needs to be either repaired maintenance Darryl Allies D- or having some you know, have your like in a hospital. Obviously, there's major equipment and there's a biomed department, and then there's still processing department and what we've done with instrument. Boys is really brought the ability for the staff members to log. Log the usage and do that with voice in general so that they can have an increased maintenance record without just having to go to scan, so this empowers everybody that has access to voice versus just a couple of scanners, possibly in another room, which increases the flow, reduces friction in general just on the the way people work in a day, and then with the instrument voice Li can have basically people. Out in the in the actual floors when they noticed that an instrument, they wanna look at the history. They can ask questions from it. They can actually pull up manuals. They can see videos. they can request repairs from the boys. They can even send the repairs out to their providers so restrained lining the process for them, and making that world easier, which ultimately I think makes their life better, and then we when we keep up with instrumentation, it's really important and really valuable for the hospital as a whole or a surgery center because then that review helps with infection also make sure that the instrumentation is that you know in disagreed condition. Makes a better for the surgeons all around. So, that's really. One of the main things that we've been focusing on developing along with wikki where instrument Mickey where all the hospitals and doctors manufacturers can actually collaborate on information. To help each other out in working with their instruments and assets in the hospital. and. That's also a voice application then. That is the voice application. Yes, that so the entire win. Every. Piece of either capital asset or surgical equipment comes with a manual. And usually in the biomed department, they'll the manuals if they get a chance, but still everybody's moving so fast in healthcare and they're doing their best and what we WANNA to do is really work together and have it where we're all helping each other out, and by allowing for a wicky version of this each hospital or surgery, center or doctor's office. They won't have to upload their own manuals. They'll be able to search to see if one's already there or they don't. They can obviously upload it off. Take the option. Put it into the WIKKI. So then we're to collaborative effort. able to sort of simplify people's lives through that That action as well they can just use voice in. Bring it up. That's fantastic. That's great. I WANNA. Learn more about each one of those. If I? If I go back to first of all the instrument voice. One and I'm imagining this I think it's great. Use Case. So if a specific scenario, so I'm imagine the surgeon in an operating room and they're looking for a particular instrument. Can it be used? Just keep tabs on inventory if they're like if they need something or there's something wrong with an instrument that came out like. Can you give me like a specific example? Like what would they say? How would they interact with that application? Sure absolutely. They can actually they can request another another. As well, so while they're in surgery. That's one of the things that happens sometimes they when they're preparing for surgery. The obviously have a list of items that they want to bring into the surgery the while they're in there. If they want another instrument, they can request that the voice and it goes to a area where that request. Can Be fulfilled. The other is is if they're seen something going on with one that you know they're there to say. Hey, this isn't you know this needs some special care. They can actually say. pull up this item. Read the mini the number off of the instrument and let they'll instate where it's going to be placed, and then that already issues that ticket for repair. The Nice thing about this is just the way we are on a daily basis. There's so many tasks, and if they can just speak it, and then it goes into a system which follows through. Instead of having to stop have somebody walkout or have to go. Do Different things the or even just remember? Let's say during regular operation at the end. There may be in items that they're. You know they just need to have looked at. They don't have to you. Know the this having to set it somewhere a lot of times. There are repair bins where they'll take instrumentation to set it off to the side and it'll just sit there. Efficiency wise for the hospital. That's a you know. That can be an issue and one of the other things that we have in development under. My other company is being able to share and loaner pool with Natalie. The repair companies that hospitals so that if there is a particular device. That needed for surgery or specialized surgery. They they. Can Find. A solution to that quickly, because sometimes the more elaborate like scopes and and certain devices, the hospitals don't have multiples due to the fact that they're very expensive, and if one of those needs repair, sometimes though the surgery may have to stop or they the. Several things that can happen in that process. Instrumentation Fine Great. If there's a problem, we need to speed up the process so that everybody can keep moving in the progress and you can. You can use voice for all of that. Yeah, that's fantastic. What what is the? What is it built on leveraging like Amazon Google proprietary technology. How do you? How do you make it? Okay well, so we're using Amazon and Google so on. The. for the voice access. The database actually we developed so We have as a company had the fortunate opportunity to build several large databases for a different organizations in in development in general and we Vince setup Sanford health in the Midwest which is a fairly large hospital system with the database, not necessarily applied invoice at this time, but really their engagement with their patients and things like that, so we've used that the an open source that technology that we've been developing for about twelve years on the database side. Great. And and again I'm very interested in the user experience so because you're leveraging Amazon as well when the person is speaking with the application, are they invoking application, Alexa or google, or whatever he google, or how does it work in that regard? Yes exactly so they. Used the invocation and ask for instrument voice. They open up their stance. And that starts the action the through Amazon Google it's connected to the a database that's really to their hospital, and then the unified database or I should say surgical center doctor's Office this integrated to through API's to the instrument Wiki as well so that's where the collaborative aspect comes into. It the the capacity to even submit a repair so they they actually will say. Can You I'm looking for this particular device. Sir Instrument and the Alexa will ask you to certain qualifying questions. Respond you put in the unit. Is this the one you're looking for yes. Now you know no I need to I need to give the you know then more descriptive and then pose the actual instrument from the database that. For. At Center and gives the you can ask. What's the use diary? When's my next maintenance? Is there a pair request against this and just a whole series of things just related to the instrumentation in general, but it also If you need user guides, the user guides are available, and then if you need to take it somewhere else, endure repair. That, which is a big thing I, mean just you know not just. General even just maintenance usage allowing that flow to work is really powerful with voice in general. Due to the fact, we're in healthcare on the move. Everybody is on the move so fast. We can make it easy. It's all that much better for them. That's right that's right, and you can just finish. Finish up with like what's the status of this right now? Are you in certain clinics hospitals? And what's the response been to it if you if you are there? Yet, so we're actually We're working with some hospitals up in New York and refining a couple of things specifically. We're going to full-scale market in the next month. So that is a Exciting time to say the least Ultimately, each hospital has or ever each center. Usually, there's just general asset management by in most cases the if it's a hospital, the biomed department in a sterile processing department. There hasn't been a really good unification. And so the nice thing about this, because of ease of use for the start processing department, we can translate bring a couple of departments in the hospital. Together, to work in an easier way. and. We're also adding this and providing allowing this to be given to the service providers the go out and actually work and repair the instrumentation so that they can start to create a history of repair. That's another particular issue besides. It inside the hospital. They deploy it but it takes time sometimes but the. The repair providers the thing that's interesting as unless they have a place to keep up with that information. It's usually lost. It's really ironic if a hospital doesn't have. Any. System set up and there are several that don't worked several of them. This is my business They just don't even know the last time it was repaired pretty so hopefully. Hopefully, this technology will help with that issue. I can see how certainly could. Yeah Yeah, I've used technologies. Like it before that have been voice enabled, and it's been. Helpful Julia Bill, for centers to understand maybe Does business analysis on instrumentation. What what's been happening or sometimes? They're using things more frequently than they realize. So We're pretty excited and we actually have a full scale APP. Several sort of a little bit like Uber Lift for Partnering Services and Service Providers Together so we're going to give an instance of instrument voice to each of those service providers and their centers. Wow, well, that's great, fantastic and congratulations. I didn't realize that this month is when you were going to go to full the commercialization of it, so that's fantastic. Well, thanks very much heather any final comments about you or pragmatic voice at all. I think Terry well. Yeah, our our team we're. We're committed to excellence and providing high levels of competency. We actually for the clients that we're working with. We touch base every day. An provide a a really clear communication path decides regular development. Planning the other is our team We have over fifty developers, and we're constantly growing and one of the things that we do. Is We hire on our our development? Development team currently as masters, degree or higher, and when we bring an individual into our company, they spend anywhere from six months to two years. Working on projects internally before we actually at at time validate their capacity before we actually have anybody work with clients, so were very much into providing excellence competency, great communication, and making sure that the development experiences successful visit. That's it is a very important. Thing. I've. In the development space to make sure that the team is responsive and. Doing great work for you. That's amazing I think that's fantastic. Being able to have a team like that and having that type of training is is obviously invaluable, so Kudos to you for doing that. That's amazing. Where can listeners go to learn more about you and what you're doing with a pragmatic voice? Well pragmatic dash voice dot com. And that's the. That's the talks about the services. And then they can go to instrument voice dot com, so heather just want to thank you very much for spending some time on the podcasts. Share a little bit about what you're doing with myself with the listeners and. You know it's interesting. Because one of the use cases that I always talk about what I'm talking about. Voice Technology is in the operating room because it's such a such a sort of quintessential use case where a surgeon is scrubbed in, and they're sterile, but also just for officiency voices so great so what you've described as. I think is bang on there, so heather again. Thanks so much for spending some time. I, really appreciate it and I look forward staying in touch. Thank you so much cherry hope you have a wonderful day and thanks for. Giving us the opportunity to share. Hello to your audience than hope. Everyone has a great day. Thanks so much. There you go the operating room as I said think, that's one of the a really quintessential places where voice can shine, so thank you to heather for coming on and telling us a little about what she and her company are doing as usual have links to things that had their mentioned on the show notes page which you can access at Voice I. Health Dot com slash sixty seven now. I want to tell you about the a big event that is happening on next week to be specific on June twenty, fourth, two, thousand, twenty at five PM, Pacific Eight PM Eastern. This is the voice den and the voice. Dan is the way to describe it is. It's kind. Kind of like shark tank where we have a whole bunch of participants, and that's you coming to join us in the voice Dan, and then we have five invited voice linzers who are essentially key leading thought authorities in the voice space, and this show is essentially an online reality show where you have the opportunity to join the conversation there, no lectures here. It's a conversation, a true authentic interaction with these influencers and you can get your questions answered if you've got burned questions about your own voice application, or you're gonna develop something where you just want to talk about their ideas, and thoughts or you know, run something by them. This is your chance to do that. The other really wonderful thing about this is that Amazon Alexa has. Stepped up to be the sponsor of the voice, and so I'm very grateful. Very very thankful to Amazon for for doing that. it means a lot to me, and of course their trust in the event, and so what that means is that there is no charge for the event for this particular session session, too, so thank you, Amazon Alexa and I encourage you to come and join us next week. You can actually register right now and enter the voice, and you can actually start chatting with people in their if they are the same time as you and us go to the voice, end dot com to save your seat, so I will see you. There have a wonderful week and I'll talk again very soon.

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Ep. 456: Context

Don't Worry About The Government

58:18 min | 1 year ago

Ep. 456: Context

"Yeah hello again. Welcome back to. Don't worry about the government's my name. Is Chris November on today? Show it's a little solo furlough addition of. Don't worry about the government. There's a loss stuff on the last leg here which my slates are getting longer got better writing flow going on these days that I didn't get to and I want to get to them and I was actually talking to somebody yesterday about all the Kobe. Nineteen stuff and I thought maybe an interesting place to start. This conversation would be with a little bit of. Don't worry about the government slash Chris History for those of you who have been listening for a long time. You might remember back in the Stephen Thomas days. I got really sick for a while for those of you. Who weren't listening back then. Let's do a little bit of a recap here so back then. I was working at a company that was the industry leader and they were not treating their employees very well despite being someone or an entity that was getting money from the government and tax benefits from the government and doing work for those who had medical impairment so it was Kinda weird that they weren't taking very good care of their employees health and I was suffering but a lot of people are suffering. La People had lower back issues. Voice Fatigue Your pains ear troubles. Loss of hearing people reported having a hard time keeping their thoughts straight at the end of the shift Because of the work that did there lately there. There was just a lot of things that were wearing on people physically and Money was not good there and there weren't cost of living adjustments and hadn't been for a long time and all of that started to lead to a union organizing effort that I was involved in and I committed myself to that pretty heavily real heavily. I believe in the project I I mean I believe that the people I was working with as well as myself were not being treated well by this employer But the energy and the effort I was putting into that was just sucking up all that I had in me at that time and around June of Twenty Fifteen. My body was just like now. We're done dude. We're done and a weird thing start happening to me. My skin started to like bubble. Started to have like a rash thing like the eventually. I kind of conclude this is all like a stress attack thing. But let's describe what the stress attack was like so middle of June. Shortly after my birthday my face starts like breaking out into these weird blisters on the top level of my skin and it starts popping and like the entire corner of the left side of my face underneath eyes starts peeling away and like that. Peel away thing. That started happening. That went on for weeks and like I was losing layers to the point that I was actually worried and I went to My ear nose and throat doctor at one point. I'm sorry like the ear nose is I was worried that like this is actually going to tear away. The bottom part of my eyelid. Like that's how much skin I was losing and like I started getting blisters on my temples on those like popped and they weren't like blistered blisters but like I like started losing the skin peeling skin off my face. I it was. It was gross and it was bad enough that I was going to skin specialists. Also I looked like an absolute fucking freak. Just just an absolute freak. I remember at one point I was at the. Cvs down the street here and This little girl was with her. Mom like we're standing in line getting my drugs and I and I was usually like Manuka honey shit like patching my skin back odd and try to keep my skin moisturised doing all this stuff to try to like. Keep my skin sloughing off my face and it looks like I was like melt man and this girl looks at me like what's wrong with him and I felt like such a fucking freak so like such a freak. It was pretty bad so the reason I really all of this is not necessarily to relive some PTSD which I am doing to a minor extent the the game final fantasy seven which is out. Now the remake is out now is forever etched in my memory of I was playing at the time We also thought the remake was going to be out out around then. People are like well. Why are we playing the original of the four years later before came out? That's why But that game is forever. Asha my memory. The reason I tell you all of this is is not to relive. Ptsd or to complain. That I have an xbox in on a PS four and thus can't play the remake of final fantasy seven though that is a lot of bullshit and there have been some big screw jobs and old navy. That's one of them for sure. But I wanted to bring that up because I think that that whole episode which lasted about three months four months before I start really kind of like looking normal enough to go back outside again in my skinny healed up on my face. Enough where like? It wasn't red so red that I couldn't go out or I start going out at night or whatever and start easing back into society. That whole thing went on for months and it's given me a lot of perspective as you would hope it would or you'd be a psychotic who's blocking out stuff. It didn't but one first and foremost is a new taught me not to take health for granted so everyone. Who's listening to this? Hopefully you're healthy and doing well today and dot is my friend a blessing. The fact that you've got your health and that can go away at a moment's notice and it's awful I didn't even get into the the part where they prescribed me. Antibiotics and I had a drug reaction while playing final fantasy seven. Where like my whole leg like actually okay. Now my whole leg my calf. It's my left calf. There's still scarring on the calf from this. It's started to blister up and it was so bad and so like kind of like out of control like Jiggle my leg. I kind of feel like watery shit going on there and just it was unbearable so grab some paper towels and yes. Sorry for people who have quit. Gross out factor like this whole episode socks. I guess I grabbed some paper towels and I wrapped my leg and went and like does I guess if you're into popping it was great. It was necessary but like I her and relief wants. This is not a fun episode of my life I was shut in an sick and so like the people I really think about right now. The people who were like a lot of us are sheltering in place right and I think we use quarantine kind of loosely. Quarantine is where you're sick enough that you can't go out and do anything. So not only. Are you stuck inside? The walls Kinda feel like they're closing in on you. Your body isn't leading you to anything and you just feel like garbage and that's infinitely worse and it makes the room field. How much smaller? So you know. I think a lot about that. It's giving me a lot. Perspective is sheltering in place. Here a comment to somebody. Hey at least you can look in the mirror. I remember being sick and being forced to more or less shelter in place a self imposed to an extent but like who wants to go out and be called the freakazoids right like you. You're quickly going to probably retreat to your four walls where people are making fun of you and avoiding the mirrors so like it could be a lot worse sort of my perspective on this health is something that we all take for granted and I think what you're seeing right now. Is America painfully trying to avoid learning that lesson? And does those watching this weekend? There were the meagre protests but the deliberate Michigan Liberate Minnesota Liberate. Virginia the word trump tweets it out and also mentions Oh. Don't forget about your guns as others shadowy other trying to take away your guns during the pandemic. That's a dangerous talking point. That's starting to gain some traction here. I'm watching all this stuff and I don't think it's an accident coming from the same people who are against any sort of national reform of our medical system right whether it's medicare for all or doing something like Britain's nhs or doing something like Germany system where you've got like a non-payer like nonprofit insurance system. Whatever it is. These are the same people who are against that. I don't think that that's an accident either. But you know I'm watching all of these rallies and these are people who I think take their health for granted and just basically you're Peter Long and then one day you just like. Walk out on your chair and never wake up again. And that's not how it's GonNa go on can be quite painful. I think what I wanted to talk about here was the cove in nineteen thing. I just Kinda WanNa let you guys know where I'm coming from on this Lee. Sheltering place to me is vastly preferable to what we are learning about the cycle of the disease. Because let me tell you four weeks of being sick for weeks. Being sick is a long time in your mind. Especially if you've got you know pneumonia words stuff where I'd know people who've had covert nineteen. We're feels like your chest. Is Caving in on? You is with the way I believe it was described to me like this is a serious disease with serious mortality and I think you know sheltering places really kind of a small price to pay compared to getting covert nineteen or thinking that we can all just get cove in nineteen them one of the things we're seeing on the right. In addition to you know we've got to save the economy the economy I is as I'm starting to refer to them as the other thing we're seeing are the herd immunity crowd and so what. I wanted to talk about here on. This show was the herd immunity argument. And why it's wrong. I think so often we start from the Matrix of Oh. This is an immoral argument. You're asking people to die. That's true so like let's not just over that but there's something more cold than mechanical but equally as powerful of an argument. Which is that simply. This doesn't work. And there are a lot of things being hidden in this herd immunity thing beyond the part where you're asking people to die people you don't know presumably not your own family right. How many members of your own family would you ask to die for the economy? Totally different question. Isn't it so like let's start with the herd immunity thing so the examples that the her immune people talk to or point to on there looking at examples like Sweden and they're looking at examples like the Netherlands so the Netherlands of we've talked about on the show here adopted a we're just all going to get covert nineteen in this is going to work out for us Sweden sort of the same thing. We're GonNa just kind of Peter along here and we'll just accept how that goes. Well one of the big issues with the were all just going to get is. This is how you pump up your case fatality ratio pretty substantially because Cova nineteen. Right now is best we can tell on. Although there are examples of other you know other diseases not having a v-shaped curve right now. Cove in nineteen v-shaped curve on so the people who are really at risk inside of a herd. Immunity Strategy would be old people. And you see that play out in the case fatality ratio so in Sweden they case fatality ratio is now over ten percent. So it's nine thousand nine hundred deaths over sixteen thousand cases for well over ten percent case fatality ratio. Like that's not good. That's obviously a low number of cases our low number of confirmed tested cases. But we've also been talking about the Netherlands right. The Netherlands is quite frankly an embarrassment to this point. They have thirty. Four thousand confirmed cases with over four thousand deaths over four thousand deaths that is eight ten percent wall over a ten percent case fatality ratio. At this point now to put that into context. You know one of the most important things here to think about is scale ability. What would happen if you try to scale out? Something like that eight. Ten percent case fatality ratio are well over ten percent case fatality ratio. While we can swing it on over to the United States here where you have eight hundred thousand cases so if you're talking about well over ten percent and you're talking about eighty thousand dead in the United States that is that would be quite a lot know right now. We're around forty thousand so you're talking a double herd. Immunity is just not tenable strategy. I mean and then the other part of heard immunity I think the way herd immunity gets positive is okay people are going to die. Let's just assume for the sake of discussion than that's okay. The thing about her immunity is it does in fact have built in cost so a lot of times. The way herd immunity gets presented is disregard the deaths. You're actually doing a cheaper model here. But herd. Immunity does cost money. It costs money in terms of medical resources. In fact every family that you know has a Cova nineteen case ends up in current a lot of this so no. The federal government in each one of these countries doesn't pay the price for the cove nineteen prevention plan but the populace writ large and the medical system ends up paying the price for this. Then we get into another part of this argument Tom if you're going to have a widespread herd immunity strategy. Well you're going to need to get a lot more people sick what this comes down to so we can talk about. Measles measles is a disease that largely has heard immunity. What's herd immunity for measles? Just take a guess right now. You probably guessed something under ninety five percent. But that's what herd. Immunity is for measles that means that ninety five percent of people have to take the measles vaccine in order for that other five percent to be covered by herd immunity more or less. And when you get underneath that by even just a small mouth like France had an outbreak when it got down to eighty nine percent. It only need to get down to eleven percent. Who were you know? Just kind of wing it. The the freedom crowd you only need about eleven percent of the freedom crowd to completely destroy herd immunity for the collective so essentially that crowd. They think that they're making a choice for themselves. Really what they're doing is making a choice for the entirety of society enforcing that choice on to everybody else. Then there's another issue here about the herd immunity strategy right now when we are looking at deaths per million the Kovic nineteen deaths per million just to put this into context car crashes every year. It's about three to four deaths per million. The two thousand seventeen twenty. Eighteen flu is about five deaths per million the 2017 twenty eighteen flu and pneumonia combined on kind of at its peak wave. That was up to about twenty two deaths per million The one thousand nine hundred fifty seven fifty eight Asian flu with the MONJA. This is a really bad outbreak. This is if you want to look for an example that I think is more relevant than Spanish flu Spanish. Lose interesting to say for the history of this especially the history of the H. Virus. But if you want to look at just a good case study that's relatively recent. The fifty seven fifty eight Asian flu deaths per million at the peak of that nearly half a year the peak of that was about twenty two million copay nineteen. Actually I've got a couple more on off here. Cancer on average weekly average for cancers about thirty five per million heart disease per million is about thirty seven Kovic nineteen is currently sitting between cancer and heart disease so the number of cancer patients all of a sudden double or the number of heart disease patients all of a sudden one. We'll be paying attention to that right. We would be certainly going. What's going on here? What can we do about this? Cancer epidemic what is causing all this cancer. We ought to do something about it. But moreover and far more importantly right now with with cove nineteen word is and it is affecting it is affecting millions of people but really we only in terms of confirmed cases worldwide. It is under four million. I'm sorry it is under three million cases worldwide. Right now we have many hospital systems that are really stretched to the bring two point. Six million cases worldwide confirmed as. I'm taping this. We Have Hospital Systems. In many places that are not stretch to the brink but But many are actually particularly strapped especially the further out in the more rural places. Get so one of the problems with her. Immunity is if you want everyone to get covert nineteen. You're going to have to plan with resources. How you're going to manage that. In a controlled way there will be a cost incurred in systematically exposing people to this So so herd. Immunity really should be considered if and only if it is concluded that we cannot arrive at a vaccine four cope in nineteen now. Let's talk about the vaccine. I think the vaccine is something important to consider. There are some people on closer to our side of the Aisle Reid who really taking the position of. We shouldn't do anything until we get a vaccine. I don't know that that is tenable Impart because there has never been a vaccine for the corona virus on there have been other Corona viruses. Right in the past. Been like six or seven. They've never actually successfully come up with a vaccine for the corona virus at this point. But what we need to have is a form of treatment now in the absence of a vaccine or a treatment if we accept that as a premise. And that's one of the right is bringing up and I think that they've actually got point on it. Then the response here is fairly bleak. I think it's a sober assessment but I I don't think it's going to be particularly flattering to anyone's narratives which means that we are in a global recession. People are going to do us. People are going to be risk averse. There will be less consumer confidence because people won't feel confident about you. Know I use the example from my own life of going down to the local guitar store and just pulling off a stratocaster from the rack. I used to guild. I think in in my previous example or retro Qatar. I wouldn't own plugging it into like a community emp at the Guitar Center and just wailing for an hour. I'd feel weird about doing that. Wash my hands afterwards but like even then touch guitar. That's on the wall. That's the thing that people are going to be thinking certainly when it comes to go into a restaurant right because we know how contagious covert nineteen places that have high levels of foot traffic. There probably done for a while. I think you could see more shops. Shutting down their storefronts paring down there storefronts having takeout windows or windows where you can go up and get service for example the drycleaners. Right instead of you going into the dry cleaners I anticipate that many dry cleaners and a lot of the minority set up for this. Why the example pops into my head many of them will just close the front doors entirely and say you gotta come through the drive through window. They'll have a mask on they'll have wells on. Business will continue through the drive through window. Drive-thru Kiosk and I think you'll see more businesses moving to that model for the time. Being I there will still be business. There also be transaction. People still need to buy goods but what growth is really dependent on. Global growth is really dependent on is people feeling like it was as safe as twenty fifteen as safe as two thousand sixteen as safe as twenty seventeen and honestly believing that you can sell the narrative on Fox News. You can say that people were overstating this they can even June it up to win the election right. They can depress democratic votes and get Republicans to go out and take risks with their bodies and go and vote on election day and maybe some of them get sick and maybe some of them but hey trump and his crowd wins the election. But that's not going to fix the global economy especially if there are outbreaks other countries across the globe the covert nineteen story and the global economic recession that will be associated with the cove in nineteen story will not go away until Kobe. Nineteen goes away now when Cova nineteen goes away. I do expect that we will enter into a pretty nice robust growth period. There will be new businesses opening up and filling the spaces of some businesses. That have gone away. They'll be consolidation of the market. There will be a change of the way that we do work in the future. There won't be creation out of the destruction but this is a destructive cycle and Adele cove. Nineteen goes away. The economic recession doesn't go away and so that that is another problem with the economy. I argued beyond just the coldness of it as we said disregard the body count here. There's a cost and they're hiding the ball. Whenever people are making this argument they always hide the ball on. How much will cost hospitals in families to deal with a cove nineteen case so that they can acquire this precious herd immunity? And wouldn't it just be cheaper to pull together some money from those same people get them vaccine and then they wouldn't have to go through being sick and they'd have the same level of health that they would have if they could acquire immunity? There's another problem with the herd immunity argument. The herd immunity argument is premised on the idea. That you only get covert nineteen once and then you're done and there will be no more cove for you Provided of course you survive it with the ten percent case mortality rate like you roll that dies especially with your own kids so her. Immunity costs more money than people who advocate for. Her beauty are willing to admit there's no guarantee that her immunity even works with this disease. You would need to get a lot more people sick in order to acquire her immunity by a lot more people. I mean like you know a magnitude of at least ten times the amount of people. You've currently got sick in your country. Sweden Sixteen Thousand Sixteen Thousand People Sweden. There need to get a lot more people sick in Sweden and with that case fatality ratio of ten percent. Is they're really going to be his stomach for that in your country. Is that really politically possible? And then of course hospital resources. Is it really viable to allocate all medical resources in your country to managing the outbreak of a disease wall? You acquire national herd immunity to this disease or remember with Cova Dante and unlike measles unlike mumps unlike rubella chickenpox polio diseases from yesteryear that we had largely defeated until the Anti Vaccine Movement started to a number on her beauty at least human beings have exposure to them in our DNA. Our bodies have evolved to it of adapted to it. This Corona Virus Kovic nineteen is novel to the human species it so this is going to be a very arduous quest to herd immunity if it's even possible so the problem with the herd immunity arguments. It's not actually a viable path. Forward what those people are really trying to argue which you probably already is that they just don't really want to spend any more money on this project and what you need to remind them is actually the project. They're proposing to do not spending the money. It's kind of like embarking on a new savings project for your car. It's like not doing the tune-ups and not changing the oil on the car now. This is a fantastic plant. You'll be saving money for the next quarter to mean. Ignore the fifty thousand mile checkup. Change the oil fucking thing still turning on and you can do that for a while but somewhere down the line you will be paying the price. This is a robbing Peter to pay Paul Strategy and I think it needs to be identified as such as the Ben Shapiro. John Rooms of the world propose it beyond that it's completely unskillful. And of course that giant as body count that a whole bunch of people who claim that their pro-life are suddenly very very fine with in an effort to save the economy. And oh by the way even if it did work like that which it doesn't that wouldn't be okay but let's go back to the more important part here. It doesn't actually work like that. And if the logic boys of the right thought this one through they'd realize that stacking up a whole bunch of dead bodies in your country does not revive the global economy. We have Dr Rick Bright. Who is dismissed this week as the director of the Department of Health and Human Services Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority and removed as the Deputy Assistant Secretary for preparedness because he questioned hydroxy core Quinn and he was also saying that he was pressured to direct money towards hydroxy chloroquine. So I have talked a lot about hydroxy core Quinn on this show and the irresponsibility from a public health standpoint of the administration to continue to push hydroxy chloroquine. I think that it would be reasonable at this point to start asking the question. Where is the money? Going in this whole exchange around hydroxy chloroquine. Who's profiting that old classic kind of Roman question one of your looking at political corruption. Because it's a fixation in clearly. People are proceeding knowing full. Well that hydroxy chloroquine does not cure the corona virus in fact as I was taping this episode earlier today. A new study came out. Washington Post reported this saying that the tests initially show that hydroxy chloroquine increases your likelihood of fatality because it can prompt heart irregularities and arrhythmias where they wouldn't otherwise be hydroxy clerk. When is not safe and then I saw tonight as I was going to take the second part here that the governor of South Dakota is trying to pump funding in two hydroxy chloroquine and I hope that the good people of South Dakota Recall Governor Christie gnome because she wants to do a statewide trial of hydroxy chloroquine. The drug that trump continues to promote crews talking about this Sanford health. Her top donor is going to offer it to patients in the state. So maybe Sanford health is the person who is profiting on hydroxy chloroquine. We don't know yet but look. There's a reason this keeps coming up and I believe in Koo incidences. Coincidences happen all the time. But I don't trust coincidences. And there's a whole lot of hydroxy chloride coincidences going on here and I think it raises a question so you might be feeling a little bit down in spirits. I but I have good news. The Pentagon is planning to dispatch the Navy's Blue Angels in the Air Force's thunderbirds in a multi city effort to quotes champion national unity amid the Kuroda virus pandemic according to defense officials and a memo obtained today by reporter Dan Moth just. We are not responding to this in a responsible way and it seems really likely that we're going to have a second outbreak. trump apparently today during his little rally thing referred to it as embers of corona embers of corona is a very bad way of framing it and that leads us into history. And what I've been looking at so I talked earlier about just the mortality in fatality rates surrounding cope at nineteen in how it's up there with cancer and heart disease. This is really serious and so imagine if there is some new third thing other than cancer and heart disease that was killing Americans. We would all be very aware of it all of a sudden. Well we have that. It's called covert nineteen. This is where the history comes in and I think the history can be very clarifying histories now repeating itself in this case between Spanish fluent Cova nineteen but it rhymes and it offers US useful parallels and more importantly covert at nineteen will be one of the chapters in the long history of the influenza epidemic. As we understand it and people will take classes in medical school in one part of the semester will be on the Spanish flu and another part of the semester will be on the nineteen fifty seven flu pandemic and another part of the semester will be on Kovic nineteen all of this is part of the history of the H N virus and there are a few different combinations of h n that fit together and have made very very strong influence of bugs that can affect literally billions of people on the planet so one of the things that is scary about this virus is normally like the flu or even a cold. Everyone gets a cold right. We say that right everybody gets cold. Okay that means that it's a very very successful viral bug now. The reason we can kind of say well everybody gets a cold is because you get a cold and you get over it and then ideally you build up. Antibodies in your system. And you're better off for it really long. Run INS cheaper for you to just let your immune system do it in. Your body is designed to do it so like you should just let your body fight off a cold. But that doesn't change the fact that the cold is very successful at getting around. Well imagine something that was much more fatal like. Let's say cancer level fatal. That was able to get around like a colts able to get around or even better than a cold is able to get around. Well that's when you start looking at something like the Spanish flu. And so here's where history useful if you think as. I think that there might not be a vaccine anytime soon. Let us look at the Spanish flu timetable. Because even if you're someone who's optimistic and things we'll have a vaccine in twelve months because the trump administration or the Biden administration will just lead of political wave of clarity and force us to allocate a ton of governmental resources towards vaccine research. So that we can be leading the nation in the world in medical research and maybe not. We'll go further fuck. This is a fantasy we are going to allocate money to the entire world and we will get as much money the whole world rally shit the whole world rallies. Maybe hit it in twelve months right. I think like if I'm being realistic of everyone actually got out of their ass in decided that we need to beat this virus in order to have an economy again which is probably what actually needs to happen to be clear. You actually need to be able to defeat this virus so people feel safe enough to go out and resume normal activities. They're not going to do that though. And so in the absence of that. I think that we're in for a bumpy ride for eighteen to twenty four months here so let's look at the Spanish flu timetable and light it up a little bit with the cove nineteen because I think that is at least useful so the first Spanish flu outbreak was march through July of nineteen eighteen so march to April April may June June July four months four months outbreak. We haven't even been sheltering in place for four months. We were laid on the uptick. Which could have abbreviated the time we would have needed to shelter in place but people preferred to live in denial. Now what is going on as people wanNA break the shelter in place prematurely which will ultimately in my opinion. I think what you'll see born out in the historical example here lead to more time being needed to shelter in place and especially if you are of the believed there will not be a vaccine anytime soon then. We need to plan as to what that means. I'm going to keep saying that until I'm blue in the face because I've been reading all these right wing arguments and you may have to argue with you right wing buddy or hopefully maybe some of my right wing friends. Who are listening. And I'm not saying this because we need to elect Joe Biden. I'm not saying this because we need to. Dramatically transform the medical system. I'm just making the simple point if you don't think there's vaccine coming anytime soon here. We're going to need to plan accordingly. Because what happens in the Spanish flu. Example is that first outbreak between March and July and then the second outbreak of Spanish flu occurs and that second outbreak is the biggest that's August nineteen eighteen through June of nineteen nineteen. That was the long one that was the big one so when trump is talking today about embers of corona my friend those embers could spark a much bigger fire and now the whole forest has been dried out by that first fire. I was just kind of winning on the analogy. Makes some sense right. So here's the problem. Yes you've now laid the groundwork and if you don't get that curve bench and I mean really bent as in a number of new cases worldwide. Going down that's not what's happening right now in the. Us is leading in terms of new cases on a daily basis here even a rate of new cases. That goes up obviously with diagnosis. What happened in the Spanish flu example? Is that a rip roaring. Ten months of Spanish. Flu Was September through November of nineteen eighteen being the worst peak so two months after the second wave started so four months after the beginning of Spanish flu. Actually I'm sorry eight months after the beginning of the Spanish flu outbreak. That's when they hit peak this presumption that we've seen the worst of it. It isn't based on anything and you'll note that when people make this sort of argument they're not pointing to a historical example right. That's the tell if they can't even sites some sort of piece of history back up why they think this is going to happen. Let alone a piece of medicine. There's the tell that maybe there isn't necessarily that strong of a foundation. The Spanish flu as a pandemic lasted nearly twenty four months and then it was still round however unlike what we know about covert nineteen right now. Where there's this assumption that you only can get at once and then it's over but nobody knows that for sure. Nobody knows the viruses going to mutate. There's just a lot of assumptions. Being made here to get to a conclusion. People have assumed the destination and they're just trying to take you on a journey using whatever argument. They can get their well. This went on for twenty four months. Now what happens at the back end of this? You might notice that the end date. Here's nineteen twenty. That starts a really really prosperous decade for the United States doesn't end very well and let us learn that lesson as well here especially as we seem to be doing the end of that decade and the beginning of that decade at the same time. So one thing I do want to say is I believe ultimately in the long run and by in the long run I mean like two to three years from now I think there are brighter days ahead and I remain a medium to long term optimist. However in the short term people can and are advocating and making decisions that could get people killed like hydrochloric Quinn like herd immunity like reopen America. And I think it's important that we counteract those bad arguments with citations of history citations of medicines. Citations of statistics not even necessarily a change people's minds but to change the minds of the people who aren't quite sure what to believe the hope maybe being that if we cite the facts and figures out them and the other person's just yelling in fuming and screaming button freedoms that the person who's trying to get medical information will be biased towards the person offering medical information. If we can't hope on that aim more than we're really fucked you might as well just have a plan B for that so to go back to the history side of this little bit to get away from my rank commentary on this. There's really interesting parallels between then. And now it's really interesting compares. In contrast between nineteen eighteen living at twenty twenty living obviously aside from being one hundred years ago I think one of the big differences is the way that we consumed food and our consumptive habits and I am very much a creature of the modern age even though I kind of fits myself as a bit of rush lowest when it comes to cooking or like someone who's at least open to using old style cooking ideas and just trying new techniques and new different ways of cooking foods from yesteryear but one of the big differences. I do not use canned goods. I'm like can't kids. I don't like canned food other than Condensed milk which I now see both the practical point for but then also the flavor point four. I'm kind of a fan of condensed milk. That's probably what you came to this podcast to hear about the condensed milk takes it's good. It's good it's really for coffee. Try it and you can just keep it on the shelf stars like that one hundred years ago. People had to keep canned goods on this shelf. Emilio further and further back. There's really interesting techniques to preserve stuff Lots of really interesting ways of preserving eggs for example using lime and using ash and just I mean people had to preserve stuff at strawberry preserves. People may blackberry preserves. People are always thinking about ways of keeping stuff longer because foods of laws could be irregular. There were growing seasons. It was heard freezing. You couldn't free stuff and having the ICEBOX that becomes the fifties thing right now. All of a sudden I can have all these things that are frozen and I can just unfreeze them. And what? A modern advancement. That is to one hundred years ago. Where no one had any frozen goods and your canned goods. Hopefully those are still really good and then whatever was fresh at the market. Nowadays we have largely perishable everything right store you buy meat. You buy vegetables. Get the fresh vegetables right. Hopefully Mon PA told you to go to the store and make sure you're eating your fresh. Greens don't eat canned green because the fresh Greens have more nutrients that sort of thing off and it's true but we're super dependent on that and one of the other big things that has changed. I talked about this about a year ago although I was not predicting Corona Virus relisted episode most in passing. I talk about if there's a disease outbreak. I think he's GonNa come from Southeast Asia but like that so so vague that there's no no points points awarded for the Qatar prediction. But one thing I talk about on. That episode is the population size. And we're that factors in here with our consumptive habits and something that I have now learned in thinking about it a little bit more closely. Is that you now have going back to nineteen eighteen about like maybe about a quarter of the people on Earth by nineteen sixty. It's half the current population between nineteen sixty in the year. Two thousand the global population doubles from three billion to six million And now we're at about eight billion people as I just said. Three million six million it. L- let's sub that out for three and six billion fuck it. I'm not even adding it. We're just GONNA roll with that so we're at about seven point. Five billion eight billion coming up on that back then. There's only about one point eight to two billion people on the planet and so the consumption of food much less. Have we scaled it up some sure but it's the thing to be really mindful of as you start to see stories coming in the news. One of the ones that I'm falling really closely. Right now are stories about outbreaks at food production plants. So you there was one involving Smithfield. There is one involving Tyson. Who's going to have an effect on it's looking like the pork market for starters? So if you've got Jonesing for Bacon I would advise you maybe going grab some Bacon. Em- put some of that delicious. Bacon that delicious fat back. Put that up in your freezer because you might need it exactly do disruption and. It's the thing that you have to be mindful of. That happened back in the day with Spanish flu. Of course it meat processing plants. And I. If you've ever been acquainted with Upton Sinclair's the jungle we probably haven't read it but you've been told about it. Meat PRODUCTION BACK. In those days. Not The most sanitary fair in the world. And so you'd be worried about outbreaks getting into the meat. You know this is also why people back in the day used to cook food a little bit more right. They're worried about outbreaks. We see Smithfield Tyson. Just a number of places to keep an eye on here because I can affect the food supply. We also saw that. Then I if you're a bit of your history in the nineteen teens the in thing to be against or the group to be Zena phobic against was the Germans This is not because they were Nazis but because of World War One and also because of religious differences. So you had the like the German methodists and back in the nineteen teens. There was a lot of anti German is uniform because of what happened with the Lusitania. La Things happened in that decade. Obviously World War One as well and people thought that the Germans had developed some sort of viral bioweapon not unlike how they had developed mustard gas and will the ones like one of the most ugly nasty wars with the trench warfare. And all the gas and gas masks and the rats. Yeah just just not a fun time. Old World War. One and people believe that the Germans were responsible for this outbreak of Spanish flu which was also misnamed and lead people to believe that maybe came from Spain. You had a president who was a bit of a bullshitter and his approach to allow problems was to acquiesce to the lesser impulses of society whether it was watching a screening of birth of the nation or in the case of the Germans passing the espionage act which enabled agents from the federal government to go to German methodist churches and spy on priests because maybe some of those German priests were talking about this. Jesus fellow and saying that Jesus didn't like war maybe Jesus wouldn't have supported this war against Germany things like that and so they would be using that as the auspices to go and spy on German people for being German. How's that for your separation of church and state not a great time however there are some things about modern society. They're actually worse. So one of the key examples would be mass transit. You didn't have nearly as much transcontinental transit one hundred years ago even with the war right like the big transcontinental transit would be troop movement and that would be coming from the US and going over to Europe and no doubt that led to the spread of Spanish flu absolutely going read the testimonials on that but now we have widely available air travel By widely AVAILA. Why don't mean that you and I can afford a plane ticket but way more people can afford a plane ticket at least in the last thirty years then could have in nineteen fifty seven. Which was when you had another big outbreak. Back in the fifties. Yeah everyone smoked on airplanes but most people were never even on airplanes. Odds are you're hopping in your car. And you were driving across the country in you your whatever. Your car was back in those days. You're cool for your Cadillac or whatever. You're going to drive back then. Most people didn't fly around in airplanes and so that ends up changing the way people move across the globe and much less international travel to that point the places that have a lot of international travel places like London places like New York there gene clobbered by this. And it's not an accident. These flights go from one country to another country or from an infected country into London. Because it's a really popular hub. And then those people go and disperse among the population in you have people who work at the airports and just spreads in radiates off from the airports. It's one of the reasons why I've been talking about being so worried about Dallas potentially of an outbreak because you got dfw airport and you'll love field airport. That's a lot of airports to airports in a good sized metroplex but to airports is low airports and they both get a good amount of traffic another big difference and and this is about us and I guess maybe that's why I did this whole episode the Big Difference Between then nineteen eighteen nineteen fifty seven and right. Now it's us. It's not you and me per se if you're listening to this show and you made all the way through odds are. You're probably agree with a lot of what I have to say about taking the outbreak seriously and even stuff about whether or not. There's going to be vaccine that sort of thing. This is about the anti vaxxers. This is as much about them. It's about the religious nutters. It's about the libertarian. Freedom fighters fighting for the right to get everyone sick and destroy her beauty while trying to save her immunity and promote community will not actually understanding her immunity. You go back to nineteen eighteen people. They're wearing mess. They're taking Spanish flu. Seriously you've nineteen fifty seven by that point. Let through Spanish flu so they knew that like the flu could be no jokin breeds from the testimonials about what were some of the symptoms involving the Nineteen Eighteen. Spanish flu just horrible just horrible and the nine hundred fifty seven was really bad to like. The flu is not just the flu right and people understood that and people really respected that but more importantly people respected medicine. People depended on medicine people understood. That medicine was largely good even and this is the crazy thing to really go back and think about even with all medicines. Mrs. That's not as though medicine had this really great track record going into the nineteen fifties like. They were far removed from the road. Twelve ill and phonology and all the Voodoo science of the eighteen nineties that people in the United States and coming up with that crazy Shit Freud even is out there. Psychology EIGHTY EGO and superego. Doesn't actually exist anywhere physically. It's not as though science spotless. But people trusted science and the by prior to people trusting science one is that when science hits people accept the hit as a hit and then take the hit and so people realized. Okay the polio vaccine. Let's all take the polio vaccine? Because I respect that. Polio is a really really powerful. Fucking very powerful disease that crippled one of the greatest. Americans have all time nine hundred fifty seven people revered FDR even Dwight Eisenhower. The Republican president was saying I'd more or less want to save the new deal. He's running as like a new deal. Republican so this was this is a revered guy. He ends up getting polio. People were aware of what polio is and people respect vaccines they wanna take vaccines now the same people who are saying you know. They want their freedom to get the krona virus. They want hurt him. You say people who say they refuse to take vaccine emceeing. Oh it's the number of the beast or you know that's how they get you. They put the chips in you using the corona virus vaccine I'm seeing the crass one coming out. Tennessee sacrifice the week right like this is just a completely four mentality to fifty years ago. I'm sure you could find some example from two hundred years ago but people back then largely there were a mess. They're taking this seriously. And so how do we beat this? First and foremost we don't rush. It involves mentally orienting ourselves into thinking. This is not a battle that can be hard fought and then on outright. This is a war. So what would need to happen? Is Businesses need to accept this? They need to start looking at. How can you make remote positions for as much of your staff as possible at the same time government needs to be mobilizing money to keep people sheltered in place because if you want to get back to the economy if you WANNA get back to the regular economy or what was and what we will one day again? Noah's normal or something normal issue. You know the the economy where people go to concerts again and go and sit down at restaurants getting go to sports games again and take the train to go and watch a sports game that economy We'll get back there faster if we just do a longer. Shelter in place and so part of that is just mental resolve and of course a national mental resolve that ideally would be emanating out of the executive branch perhaps even from the chief executive of the United States assuring us that this is a process and to quote the Great Joel Embiid philosopher and center. We've gotTA trust the process. But I don't anticipate that sort of message emanating from the White House do you? So in the absence of that then I think a lot of us Need to get realistic about what we're going to have a process at your house that you can trust. Have a process for how you know about your errands. Make free trusted got that and there is a major outbreak that affects your locality. So long as you've been doing that process your odds of being one of the first people affected by. The outbreak is very very low. Because you've been wearing gloves. Explain stuff down walking stuff now at risk goes up once. There's a serious outbreak there before germs on. You have to be that much more vigilant but if you trust your process you should be able to relax and have some faith also. Have the mental resolve to do this for months nine months however long it paid my skin to and like there was still your public things that were happening for a it's it was a process and wild but it does pass. You just got to keep doing the right thing for you and hope the country starts doing the right thing the country that I would say oh in November remember who to vote for. But here's the deal. I would say that I'm GonNa say this elections have fucking on and the people who told you four years ago that there was no difference between Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump. Guess what you'll be fucking charge here. We were all wrong. You wouldn't be lying to your family members about taking hydroxy chloroquine and a Clinton administration probably would have been a couple of weeks in front of were down from the national response and wouldn't have been saying shit like they're fifty and then zero by the end of the month and it played administration would probably have a sheltered in place a lot less than the trump administration and how the shelter in place. 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The Real Safety of Shelter-in-Place

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The Real Safety of Shelter-in-Place

"The following recording may or may not include instances of words being said that the. Fcc would find me for their long arm could ever reach It's Wednesday April Fifteenth when he twenty from slate. It's the gist. I might Pasqua a couple of days ago. The President Donald J trump held a press conference. And you could say. He totaled it when somebody's the president of the United States. The Authority is total. And that's so it's gotta be. It's total afterwards. I heard commentators saying actually governors and constitutional experts disagree constitutional experts really anyone with a glancing knowledge of how government works would say. Nah that ain't right but that proved to be misstatement that he backed away from and perhaps he learned from there a couple of things. That don't really work that well. For trump like trusting the thoughts that pop into his head but what does work pre produced videos so today he wants more relied on the AV squad to make his case. I think they said that. There's a brief clip that we have of General Motors sent to us by General Motors and I think they might be wanting to play that for your benefit please. Indeed there and through the miracle of time lapse photography. An empty room in his video was turned into a full room and we saw some sort of machine sampled. It looked like it was a printer. Maybe a very fancy toaster turns out we were told it was ventilator ventilators included huge breathing tubes actually to breathing tubes and inhale exhale one but this was the high tech toaster thing the power the tubes to score the assembling video these the music they usually play under commercials for financial services or sometimes during episodes of this American life. The president thing complained about getting judges approved. Because that's on the top of everyone's mind during this pandemic next onto an update about how he suspended travel from China. Did you know that he suspended travel from trying to band it? If you were totally ignorant and you didn't know that you're actually smarter than if you listen to. What trump said. It took him at his word because after he supposedly shut down. The flights forty thousand people have traveled to the US from China. This was post ban over that by the way that status as of two weeks ago according to the New York Times later trump briefed the American people on a very sophisticated technology but he was careful not to let his indepth knowledge. Get the best of him. He didn't want to confuse the layman too badly. And we're talking about the tele medical. It's a new thing. Whoa slow down professor but this guy is obviously so surrounded by a brain trust the likes of which the White House had never seen except perhaps when Thomas Jefferson isolated alone. He just had to. He couldn't help but getting into the granular details of policy-making spoke to a lot of very very smart people. The highest of the high tech the level of I q and some of those calls was about the highest. You've ever seen in a phone call that I can tell you but we have a lot of great thought. Went into those calls and a lot of questions came out and also statements very strong statements as to what they recommend it was. I think it was a great day. We did a Lotta a Lotta calling with a lot of very prominent people but more importantly very smart people and people that love our country. All right I'm convinced. Let's reopen America. What more do you need than that? It was a phone call with smart people where they were asked. Not just questions and questions would have been fine questions would have been enough. What kind of monster do you have to be not to be satisfied with questions to demand more but if you are such a greedy greedy party well then I got news for YOU MR? The people on the phone the smart people they ask questions. Oh Yeah but you know what? They made statements so stick that in your pipe strongly and truly greatly respected. Trump finished the briefing by arguing with reporters a little bit and Milan in the World Health Organization thereby replenishing his life fluids to allow him to serve another day and then he skipped out of the Rose Garden at full them plain to the naked eye. And I do not need one of those Tele medicals to tell me about that on the show today about the governor of South Dakota who has a pork plant in her jurisdiction that has become a worse corona hotspot. Then the Cook County jail or the USS Theodore Roosevelt. We will examine her own. Justifications Confident Confident Justifications. For what she didn't do and why she didn't do it but I he is one of the most important and interesting journalists covering this covert outbreak. And he's doing it. Visually John Burns Murdoch works for the Financial Times. You must follow him on twitter. He's a visualization expert. 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Oh I'm not even going to call it a silver lining but a phenomenon that I've taken great solace a great information and that is the burgeoning wealth of online charts and statistics. You can go to the Johns Hopkins Site. You can go to any number of sites that take the data and information we have and presented in a way that hopefully makes you someone very concerned about the pandemic say. Oh I never thought of it. That way. Leading this charge is the Financial Times. D visualization expert. John Burn Murdoch. If you don't follow him and you are interested in this stuff. You need to follow him now he spearheading the FT's analysis data visual analysis of the pandemic. I'm going to ask him some questions about how he makes his choices and also drawn his expertise from what he sees just as someone who's mired in the data. John Thanks for joining me no color. Great here so give me your background. indeed a visualization and how much epidemiology or virology or what this subject however you define the subject matter. How much had you done before a month ago? there's a question and yes you know straight up straight out of the gate Just or virologist or a serologic sort of the gist that that would actually bring demand expertise here bill. I. Yeah I've been working with two. As a as a data journalist Financial Times not about six seven years previously was at the Guardian in London. A similar stuff so yet in my expertise is in taking data analyzing to see what the most salient trends. Abi Amid to be thinking about this journalist perspective so taking complex data sets subject matter on distilling. They're making clarify people an intensive the you know the the subject matter itself done. I've done similar work on the U. Beila crisis a few years ago. And you know I've worked with a climate correspondent So I said the idea of working on scientific am data is not new to me. My academic background by IM aged in Sciences in Climate Science. So the idea of using a day to get to the crux of what's going on communicate Has always been to part of how I how I do things essentially so as you make your charge. You a fundamental choices. You have to decide. What your Y. Axis is going to be so. There is a way to present the charge chart where it goes up. Numerically or the way that you decided which is a logarithmic progression. And all that means is online line it might be fifty and the next line. It might be hundred. We're talking about number cases but then above that might be five hundred and above. That might be one thousand in other words. Every spot on the Y axis is not equidistant from each other. Tell me why you made that choice and why that helps us better. Understand the course of this pandemic she'll say a few reasons for that really One of them as is just a with with Boris. She's talking about something which we know is going to grow exponentially is gonNA. You'll get from one case to two cases four to eight to sixteen so the idea of doubling rates. He doesn't get one two three four five on all that means. Is that the shape of all data naturally is going to be exponential so if we were to this using a conventional linear scale. The for any country is gonNA awkward from Flock Line to a very steep line on the issue. I have with that as visualization generalist is just the dot means using a visual boundaries. Were charged to show this toxin. That doesn't actually tell us anything interesting. Owning tells us is that you got exponential cocaine and given that. Unc docker every country. A lot of this visual noise us would just be these these codes which simply expedited that you own an exponential and right right. Everything would look like a hockey stick and they're bigs the blade. The blade of the stick might be at a steeper trajectory. But it's a whole bunch of hockey sticks. Yeah does not a true representation of the numbers? There's nothing there's nothing technically wrong with. But if you'll try and make every pixel in the graphic convey something meaningful and useful in something that allows us to compare one country to another then. I think it's more useful to use a fall in terms of logarithmic. Axes which essentially just ions out the exponential noise. So so you. There's an assumption here that we all accept that we're dealing with exponential aches and if one looks at the numbers on the taxes and of course they do show that but we then gained by going to an exponential logger is you can focus on the slope and the slope is not meaningful slate now means how different are the rates of growth. Instead of just is this country having an exponential rate to as dancers always. Yes No. Your main chart is about deaths because that's certainly focuses the mind and That's where the stakes are highest. Were you I mean have you or were you to plot either? Critical care or just infections would the charts look much different than the death charts nor hugely so infections. If if we if we mean infections as a number of confirmed cases we do book. I do those everyday as well. So you can see. The cases and then the lagging indicator of objects hospitalizations. Critical cat suspect yes would look very similar and the main reason. I haven't been putting those few countries report backdated so he knows you get a big. International comparison confirmed cases death so the most ubiquitous indicates that we have. Yeah in all this. In all the countries that you've traced. Is it the case that there is one or maybe two huge centers of outbreak? And if you took those away. Their overall numbers would dramatically change. I guess they got a caveat that with an asterisk I mean they're in the UK. It's it's only fair to look at it that way. Since such a huge percentage of the population lives in London or thereabouts. But going back to the original question if you were to take away the biggest source of one hotspot or the giant hot spot in a different country maybe the Lombardy region of Italy or New York in the United States. Would these charts change dramatically? Yes absolutely they'd changed very dramatically. So I mean I would say it's almost the opposite I'd be astonished if many countries where that wouldn't have a huge impact because generally what we see in most countries is that you have essentially one large outbreaks obviously China Wuhan Career debut and the UK. A the majority of cases. Unfortunately that's happening in London and it was Lombardi in in the. Us IS NEW YORK. So we really all Totally issues with with Analysis on days and on its way as as well as much faults at country level I produce John. Every day at regional. So you know so I'm looking at. Us states I'm looking at sub-regions the UK of France and Germany all over the world because these outbreaks of much better understood is happening league level. You'll get one city why because of the density because of how many people are interacting an because those cities are international. Hubs while you get the patient dot is really how this works. And that's another reason that I think looking at national country level PA- capital is misleading. Because ultimately you have a series of cities or regions suffering from outbreaks that it is misleading to suggest that the US has an outbreak when Israeli that the east coast you. Just you have an outbreak and California is facing something in a Detroit in Chicago These these all the country country as a unit of analysis. Harry's actually I'd say pretty suburbs. Are there other highly correlated of conditions? That tell you that would tell you how badly an outbreak would occur. Some items that have been mentioned are perhaps it's humidity daily temperature population density reliance on mass transit of those that you've looked at any other seem very correlated to how bad an outbreak kids. There's all sorts of foxes. And that's the that's the main point to make those new single factor as the explains all of this and there are many factors that explain saw very much no oil so one thing that I've looked down as I mentioned is the is the look down to eighteen and on a on a admittedly admittedly small sample of. Let me just see. How many countries amusing to this Only about twenty countries have good data the data which you know the relative climate which are coming down explains about half of the variation in how how rough mix outbreak spread so. That's a big chunk but it's at least half of the unexplained and there are all sorts of other things that go into that so I've talked about how I don't think capita stop sir. Brilliant or an especially useful way of looking at this bar population size also does explain a bit of it. Population size explains the again a national level. Which for reasons we've explained is is a bit crude dot explains about another ten percents of it. The number of major urban centers explains another few percent of the things. I haven't looked at yet but would be would expects to perhaps have an influence on things like the number of flight connections that the city or country house in terms of in because that would suggest how many possible patient. Zero's it could have as it were. You've also got things on the average household size so one of the things that's been talked about as a big factor in Spain. Italy is that they have large numbers of multigeneration households so households why you'd have an elderly person who could be vulnerable to the virus. Living in close quarters with younger mobile people who'd be it'd be moving around in kid have brought to them before countries knew what was going on. So that's a Fox. You've also go the simple demographics so does a reasonable consensus. That one of the reasons Italy had a particularly about outbreak was very top-heavy population in terms of age. A lot of Braley people. We know that it'll be in Japan or the two oldest countries in the world right exactly so so. Yeah all of these. Things have an impact in lockdown earlier. Lockdowns to help. But if you're in a country that is suffering from all of these other let's say preexisting conditions on the national level than simply looking down early isn't GonNa save you and likewise if you looked on late but you've got various things working in your favor such as a young population or relatively isolated population for example. We see that island communities island regions are dealing with Florida codes. So far than than those things could mitigate so yeah. There's no silver bullet and again this is why placing solo blame on decisions on on. Lockdowns is not the way to go. Of course lockdowns help or hinder depending on how they go but they're of other. Foxes hit two. There are different words for this phenomenon. What happens next? Perhaps let's hope the pandemic subsides given in the northern hemisphere summer temperatures or perhaps there's some effect of herd immunity. But what I'm talking about is the echo the boom that w curve the fear that it could return in the fault once it does in years or months afterwards you'll be able to give some great charts about how that played out but beforehand. Can you draw on pass coverage of a Bola how this is working any other statistics to give prediction? That would help us. Navigate those choices. We'll have to be making in the fall. Unfortunately I can't is the honest answer that honest and I appreciate it. Yeah so that's I don't have any sort of silver bullet answer that but again the main thing I'd say is will take time it will. We can look at places like Australia Australia New Zealand Norway right now and say things that really ask. But it's still too early to say they've succeeded. I'm also in a lot of these cases success often. It doesn't mean problem solve with dumb. It means the the first offensive as it were has been as being held back but those defensive mechanisms that prevented the outbreak taking off. Not going to have to be maintained permanently or rolled on an off for the foreseeable future until the vaccine. So I think uncertainty say that of course a country turning the corner and reducing its new daily cases or or death is absolutely a good thing but it does not mean great. Went out a couple of weeks away from normal life so just just to give an example if we look Wuhan again. It was about two months after daily new deaths on peaked that they lifted the lockdown. And they're still only grudgingly so peaking the curve is a fantastic thing to do. But that doesn't mean like normal life media regimes and as I say we're going to keep watching places like Australia and Denmark. Which are relaxing that conditions at the moment before he will able to say what works was worked. What hasn't worked what countries can learn from an when this all actually be a thing of the past. John Burn. Murdoch is the senior data. Visualization Turtle List at the Financial Times. I made him talk in words and not in pictures but he. He's a great. Thank you so much John. Thanks support for the gist comes from our friends at rocket mortgage by quicken loans. Home today is so much more than it was yesterday but at rocket mortgage home is still all about you during these challenging times. We're all experiencing the top priority at rocket mortgage is the health and safety of the communities they serve and while things are changing quickly every day. One thing they will never change is their team's commitment to giving you the best mortgage experience possible. That's why you need mortgage support. Their team of experts is there to answer questions and offer solution. They understand that hardships happen. 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South Dakota Governor Christie gnome described her state status. This way we are flattening are curve in South Dakota yesterday in a confidence. Supremely self-assured rigidly unwavering news. Conference Gnome said of her decision not to ask citizens to stay at home. It is working. This was news to Sioux Falls. The biggest city in the state where a Smithfield food processing plant has passed the Cook County jail in Chicago in the Theodore Roosevelt. Chew become the nation's number one corona hotspot with six hundred forty four cases in that one plant. No matter says no because of one simple indisputable in fact stories written That a shelter in place would have prevented this outbreak at Smithfield. That is absolutely false. It is not true impact on what happened at Smithfield and that is because regardless of shelter in place order had been in place throughout the state of South Dakota or not this plant would have been up and running because it is exempted as an essential business that is part of our critical infrastructure. Plan to make sure that we can put food on the table for Americans and people across the world That is something that Needs to be stated again so that we make sure the reporting is honest. It's fair and accurate. Well there you have it by. I mean cove in nineteen except for one thing. How do you get the virus inside the plan to begin with I check the list of prepared at this plant? It's almost all pork? No Bat knew about super bats in a blanket. No Jalapeno bad poppers. The virus was brought into the plant in the first place by someone who was living interacting breathing in a state with the least stringent corona policy in America. And now they have the worst corona virus. Hotspot in America. Coincidence totally says the governor. Make sure that I'm making decisions to actually do. Good not make decisions that just make people feel good. Yes would wanNA feel good like not have a high fever and debilitating cough and difficulty breathing and life threatening long incapacitation. Who'd want that? The idea that shelter in place couldn't have prevented the virus from getting inside the plant to spread in the first place isn't just my supposition or really my inference. Based on logic it was actually backed up by the prior days. Two days ago the governor had a press conference and there was South Dakota's Health Secretary. Kim Malsin Richardson and she said this about the county that the Smithfield plant is located in. Yeah I'm not sure that we can Definitively pinpoint the exact cause of of the cases at Smithfield. I can tell you that many county did already have substantial community spread At the time that we saw the first case among US Smithfield employees the closest person to the health director as she said that was governor gnome now the closest public official that the people of false can turn to for something akin to a solution is mayor. Paul hacking who like gnome is a Republican with strong ties to the business community but unlike gnome wants to actually do something to compel the citizenry to stay at home. Governor GNOME says no the to request the mayor of Sioux Falls has asked me number one was to issue a shelter in place for many ha ha and Lincoln County. I am not going to do that at that time at this time. I don't believe it's appropriate considering the data in the facts and the science that we have although the governor did give into a feeling at one point not fact but a feeling when asked about the status of viral spread throughout her state. We believe it's gotten better statewide. While the plant critical though it might have been to infrastructure. The pork processing part of infrastructure. That is the plant has now been shut down. There's not a lot of evidence for that though that one piece of evidence that the plant is a critical part of infrastructure was cited again and again and again. Let's find out some context on that. The Department of Homeland Security has issued guidance on the essential critical infrastructure workforce it defines what businesses counters critical infrastructure. Yes there is pork processing plants. Also critical infrastructure workers supporting groceries pharmacies convenience store and other retail including unattended and vending that sell human food pet food and pet supply and beverage products. So the coke and Pepsi Guy. They're critical infrastructure workers who support sawmills in distribution of forest products including but not limited to timber paper another would retail fuel centers such as gas stations and truck stops propane gas distribution centers. Hello Hank Hill. Auto repair shops and workers supporting production and distribution of credit and debit cards. Not that these aren't important. I'm not looking down on anybody. We really do. Need these people. But the governor make it sound like the pork packers or members of the Apollo Eleven mission or seal team six and also stay at home. Orders are there to protect these workers from other citizens who might have the virus these workers and propane distributors and everyone pumping gas. Finally in yesterday's News Conference Governor Gnome was given one last chance to grapple with these simple notion that aggressive stay at home measures would cover people who live and socialize with critical infrastructure workers thereby limiting the chances that a critical infrastructure workers acquire the virus. She was asked quote. You said a stay at home order would not have protected. The workers at the Smithfield plant were their family members. Self isolated. Because that's the only way these workers would have been protected. Here's the governor's answer in full. I'm not certain what you mean if you think that. The family members infected the workers The first indication we had is that the virus Tested positive from an employee in the plant and that is a critical infrastructure facility and would have been operating whether there was a shelter in place In place in the State of South Dakota or not that that facility would have continued to operate good point. Thanks for clarifying. The governor has at this point issued this guidance for America's number one covert one thousand nine hotspot. The first one is that we ask Smithfield to take a pause. Sorta like opening the door a crack after the horses have burned to death inside. But did you know Barnes or a critical infrastructure facility? This isn't to say the governor. Nome isn't taking aggressive actions in other areas in fact according to a state news release Governor Christie. Nome announced that South Dakota with Sanford health effort will be the first with a comprehensive statewide clinical trial to determine the effectiveness of hydroxy chloroquine intriguing and preventing covert nineteen. Let us just hope that the drug does good. It doesn't just feel good. And that's it for today's show at moments like these Margaret Kelly just associate producer longs to take a track to that old quarry in town. Where if you shout at just the right angle you could hear the reverberation of your voice for five to ten minutes. This is why that abandoned quarry should be considered a critical infrastructure facility. Daniel schrader is the executive producer he'd rather be at COMECON. Comecon of course being a critical infrastructure facility gist so the smithfield processing plant is a worse hotspot than the Cook County. Jail will not when Jake and Elwood are there. Let's rock improve Debra do Peru and thanks for listening.

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153: Teams Who Adapt Will THRIVE in 2020 w/ Greg McDermott

Jeff Goodman Basketball Podcast

30:36 min | 6 months ago

153: Teams Who Adapt Will THRIVE in 2020 w/ Greg McDermott

"How long are welcome in another edition of Be Good and Plenty podcast and I'm joined by Creighton. Hey coach Greg McDermott. And this looks very professional. First of all, you you look way more professional you get a microphone. I mean, come on what's going on? We're in the pandemic here. I expect you to be in your basement golf clubs in Hancock and look at you completely out. Do me. Well, when you surround yourself by good people that are smarter than you then you're able to look a little bit more professional than you really are. So over under on the amount of rounds you played of golf during the pandemic. I'm going with 50. Significantly over. Wow, you know, we had good weather in March and April here. So and and you know, when we got shut down at the Big East tournament when the game got called a thousand halftime, you know before they shut down any airlines. I jumped on a plane to Arizona for a couple of weeks. So I was able to get a bunch and so, you know, it's it's it's one of my hobbies that I really enjoyed fortunately through this pandemic. It was one of the few things you could actually do so but I will say that the the theory that if I could just play more golf, I'd be better. It does not hold true. It is not true doesn't matter how much I play is is your son good is Doug like when you guys go out there who's better? What I just I just saw him a couple days this week and his handicap is slightly better than mine. But some of his money is in my pocket loss those 2 days ago off so so like what would you bet? I mean probably a little mentally stronger than he is. Well, we know that what will you guys gamble? I mean, does it really matter anymore? Like how long I mean he makes more than you now, he doesn't really really the the the amount is insignificant. It's just who has to pay who and how painful that is when that happens. So I'm a good time with it. My oldest son. Nick plays a bunch too. So it's a great way to spend some family time. You don't get Therese out there with you. She does not play golf, which is probably a good thing in Sydney doesn't neither. So it's it's pretty much just a guess. So I've heard according to my sources that the other thing that you've spent a lot of time with over the pandemic is your grilling game trying to really up your grill and game and I don't know if you're going to be you know cooking at the drove or anytime soon here. But how's that going? I enjoy throwing some food on the smoker. I enjoy the the grill and again, you know, a lot of restaurants were closed during the pandemic so it gave us something to try and to do and Doug was back here A bunch as were both all three of our kids. So, you know, I think Doug even learn to cook a little bit which is a that's really incredible when you think about that but you know, it's it's something that's fun to do and I enjoyed it and a good way to kill some time. Yeah. I'm pretty limited with my own cooking abilities. I can you know hamburgers hotdogs chicken, maybe some salmon, you know, simple ya gotta keep it simple. I mean gotta keep it simple. So practice wage It's this week crazy. I mean we're finally kind of here at a point where we feel like basketball is is around the corner NBA over now. We got 45 days from when we're taping this off to when the season is supposed to start on November 25th. What's it going to be like this week with practice starting up. Do you think well, you know fortunately the NCAA gave us a window of you know, three weeks where we could gradually kind of gear the guys up and and get them back in the practice floor. And and the reality of it is is you know, many of our guys played very little to no 5.5 from the middle of March until last couple of weeks ago. So, you know trying to get that timing back and just get them get them to feel like they you know, they they're back in a Groove a little bit and and just to conditioning part of it because you know had we had him here all summer. They're playing five-on-five. They're playing pickup games four or five days a week when you take that away. It really takes some time off. Get some of that back so that's that'll be really the the early part of practice. Let's make sure they're in shape. Let's make sure their bodies are right. Let's gradually introduced the full-court part of life. It's a big part of what we do in the speed with which we do it. But these three weeks have given us at least an opportunity to to gradually, you know, have some things that we've been able to give to them and you know, the older guys are doing a great job trying to help the new guys fit in as quickly as possible. What worries you the most about the season. Is it the contact tracing part of all this that if somebody gets covid-19 We have to follow those protocols. I think it's just going to be very difficult because as we're seeing I think you know people people get it and some people get sicker than others. But you know that's going to be difficult cuz in basketball, you know, Jeff is you know, like we're not just sitting out two weeks. We can't sit out two weeks and play a game the next Tuesday. There's going to be some time that you're going to have to wrap that back up so long, you know my charged with the Big East and and with our Administration we have to get to 13 games as soon as we possibly can we've got to get to the minimum number of games to make sure you qualify for the NCAA tournament in case some crazy things happen and you know, sometimes you can do everything right in your two opponents are shut down. And then who do you play and I think there has to be have to be able to adapt you have to be flexible. I'm hopeful that across the country if if some some teams are shut down across to other leagues and you know, we can't play because Seton Hall Providence is shut down and Kansas State can't play because they're supposed to place. Texas Tech and Texas can we play Kansas state that week? You know, I hope that they'll be some flexibility to allow us to do that. Let's just try to get games in let's let's have these guys have as normal season as we possibly can in some really abnormal times. Yeah, I mean listen adapt is got to be the biggest word of this season to me is is who cares who you play where you play them as the season goes on. It just play games do it for the kids as much as anything else and for a sense of normalcy. You've got a good team though. I mean you had a hell of a team last year. You got a team that I don't know if people realize could be as good if not better despite losing touch on Alexander because you've got bags now. I mean, what's it like to actually have big men again? Yeah. It's it's been great. And you know having said that Christian bishop and Calvin Jones were terrific last year and when we went to the small ball lineup with with Mahoney or Jefferson a dog Five we had a lot of success but you know, we're going to miss Tyshawn, you know, he did you take for granted the offensive numbers the assist-to-turnover and you know his efficiency offensively but you know what he was able to do defensively really was to take the other team's best perimeter player out of the game and make it very difficult on him and somebody's going to have to embrace that role. I think Denzel Mahoney's hungry to do it. I think. Jefferson kelp can help us there. Thank Mark a cigarette house key can take some of that load as well. But you know, I like this team and and you know, we have a lot of pieces back Jacob Epperson is back on the practice floor, you know doing some really good things and you know, I think Ryan kalkbrenner The Freshman from st. Louis as a chance to really have an impact on this year's team. So we have some depth in the front line that we should have last year that hopefully can provide a little Rim protection on the back of that defense. Yeah. I've heard kalkbrenner has been pretty impressive so far from from from a few people around there what wage This game like and how do you see his role being this year Well, it reminds me a lot Jennifer Brook Lopez. I mean that's kind of how he moves, you know, big guy, you know, really often, you know legit 7-footer but but skilled can step out and shoot the basketball and it's very skilled in the post. Right and left hand left shoulder. Right shoulder doesn't make any difference and now it's just a matter of the speed is a game especially for us as much different than the high school level him getting accustomed to playing with that pace and that speed making some of the reeds in the parameter when we pop into the top of the floor, but you know, we're going to have to talk to him some of the block to because he's very crafty when he catches it down there and you know, it's just going to be it's going to be a nice piece for us to be able to rotate him and Jacob in Christian and maybe move Christian to the for some, you know, some possibilities that didn't exist last year certainly there for the taking this year. So I have to admit and and you don't need to tell Mandy and Zach that's but I never thought I'd pass. Marcus seguroski as a preseason first-team All-American, but I think that's where I'm leaning to towards going right now. You know, I remember seeing him. She maybe his sophomore year of high school when he came and he played Newburyport High School and thinking like good little player like nice player, but I didn't ever see this type of progression. What what have you seen since you first laid eyes on him to now that's enabled him to get to this point. You know, I think the first time I watched him, I think my feeling was probably similar to yours, you know, this kid really knows how to play the game and then you watch another game you watch another game and you you realize how much he impacts winning and how he has his fingerprints all over a game and you know, that's what became impressive to me. But you know watching is a new team and the success that they were able to have you know, he made other guys better yet. He could hit the big shot at the big time or make the right player the Mike right read at that time wage. It's been fun to watch him. He's a perfectionist by Nature. He's really really hard on himself. And that's something that we're trying to work through because he has to kind of get past that and move on to the next page quicker, but it's also what's made made him great. So it's a fine line that we walk, you know, trying to get him just to be a little bit less hard on himself play the game play with joy, but you know, he scores it off levels. He's a great leader. He sees the floor, you know, he really fits our up-tempo system because of the plays that he can make and transition and you know, as you know, having having gotten to know the family, he's just delightful to coach, you know, he's one of those guys that you wish you'd have on your team every year because he's that much fun to be around 100% Is he back? I know he told me months ago that he thought he was he was going to be better than cuz she's dealt with some injuries that have kind of been nagging over the last couple of years and the knee injury getting that cleaned up. How does he look I think wage Body feels better than it ever has so I think physically I think he's in as good a place as he's as he's ever been now. It's just a matter and you know, I've explained to Marcus when you when you miss four months. You don't come back and play like you were playing in March. It's just going to take some time to get your timing back to get your field back and then you add to it to the inability to play five-on-five when he did get back and get healthy. So it's it's going to process and you know, he's gotta you know, trust his teammates like he always has and you know, I think he'll be playing his best basketball when we when we make the turn probably the 2021. I think it's going to take some live game action to get back to where he was but the body is great. He's really put on some some significant strength that I think's going to help him on both ends of the floor. Give me your your favorite memory coaching your kid coach and Duck and then give me the story that that's never been told if there is one of when you guys just went to added about something whether it's a play call something cuz I I know your relationship and and he's so easy-going you you know, where I stand with him. One of my favorite kids. Maybe the favorite kid. I ever covered doing this but it's got to be something there where you guys just went at it right? I mean there were times certainly thought you know, I think is his freshman year, you know it that was difficult for him because obviously I'm I've gone from his father's voice just coaches voice and it's different. You know, we had a couple of times there was there was a there was an ESPN game against Wichita State one year where I really got after am in a time out, you know face to face and my wife didn't really have one at home. To do with me when I got home that night but you know, it was a great experience as you know, Jeff and I wish a lot of people could experience what I was able to experience. I think you know looking back at the positive things, you know certain be a draft night was something that you know, you'll never forget but you know, I think going to that first NCAA tournament together winning that Missouri Valley Conference Championship when he was a sophomore, you know going back to the NCAA tournament having your son is part of the team is something that's that's pretty cool. But you know as I look back on it now, you know, he scored a ton of points over three thousand points and you know, I got to be part of all those games all those practices and off, you know, and and now that he's in the NBA now we can have those basketball talks that we didn't really have when he was in college because you're not going to call your coach about something, you know, he'd had enough of me in practice. But but now, we can talk basketball, you know talk how he's playing. Where does he fit? What's he got to get better at you know, how how do I best adjust to you know, a different coach or a different team which has happened to him several times. Throughout his career. So, you know, it's it's a fun relationship. And and obviously we we both love basketball. So, you know that part of it's been really neat From father-son perspective. Is it crazy to think where you are like ten years ago and where you are now and what Creighton has been able to to allow you in terms of the success, you've had almost peace of mind. You've had to coach the way you bought a new recruit the type of kids you want to recruit. Yeah. Yeah, you know, we had a you know, we obviously we were successful in Northern Iowa and we didn't get the job done at Iowa State the way that I wanted to I think we left it in a better spot than we when we than than when we got there. There were a lot of things behind the scenes that kind of had to be cleaned up. And and obviously when Fred took over he he did an unbelievable job, but you know creating is really fit me and you know, Bruce Rasmussen is terrific. I think one of the best athletic directors in the country and you know his vision, you know as we sit in this beautiful practice facility job Something that was designed before we were even thinking about going to the Big East and you know now we have one of the top facilities in the country and and we're in a great basketball conference basketball Centric concert, It's so it's it's it's really become home for us and you know, that's been fun. And and as you know, I've, you know had a change in my coaching philosophy during my time at Creighton and that was that was hard for me at first because you kind of have to let go of some things that you felt have worked for you in the past and kind of explore this newness in the game that you really haven't tinkered with very much but it was also fun and it was I think it was it was rejuvenating to talk to some people that play the way that we play get new ideas and then kind of formulate a new philosophy of how you want this to look and and the pieces that you have to bring on board to make it happen and it's been a lot of fun for us and I've had a lot of great assistance that have worked with me during that time, which is made it really really enjoyable. But you know, we're hopeful that wage. You know, we brought some value to the Big East and and certainly the Big East is brought value to Creighton and helped I think promote our program at a national basis in a way that we weren't able to do prior to us entering this leads. Do you remember what it was or who it was that that actually enabled you to say? You know what? Yeah. I'm going to I'm going to change kind of how I go about you know, whether it's a system or or was it something specific somebody, you know, it would really was the first first year at Creighton, you know, we we were ended up playing I think in the CBI wage and we had a we got beat in the first round of the Big East or the Missouri Valley Conference tournament, and we had ten days before we played so I had a very senior-laden team, you know, Caleb corver and Darryl Ashford Wayne Reynolds Kenny loss and Casey Harriman and then I had a bunch of young guys. That was Doug's freshman class with job. Men's granted transferred in Ethan wragge was young. So we had to figure out something to do those 10 days. So we set it up like a seven-game NBA series and we took the older guys on a team and then we played some of the red shirts and and younger guys on the other team and and we allowed that team to just play Fast Antoine young was on that team was a believe I'm a junior at the time as a point guard and and once we got going up and down and seeing what Doug and Ethan and Grant johanns how they were functioning in the full court Gregory at unique had just become eligible. Then we really liked what we saw and then it was almost fate in our second game. We played Davidson and and Coach McKillip and I think the score at halftime was 54 to 46 and and you know, we couldn't stop him and they were they were we ended up winning a hundred to two 94-96 but you know, they they're they're spacing was impeccable job. The way they use their bags and transition and attacked you make or Miss every single time. So that really got it started in that game for me came at the perfect time to see what you could do with maybe, you know, not a bunch of guys that can talk touch the top of the square but guys are really know how to play the game of basketball how you can play with pace and play fast and be successful and and to be honest Jeff the mortgage to it. It was really fun for me to coach. It's a fun system to play. It's a fun style to play think most players will tell you the ask him how you want to play you want to play Fat they sell they'll say they want to play fast. I don't think I could stand how hard it is to play Fast to do it consistently to have the impact that you wanted to have in the game. You've got to do it every time and and I think those are some of the lessons I took from coach McKillip and watching film of his team way and then we've just kind of built it to fit our Personnel in our system and it's been a lot of fun. That's interesting. I never heard you told us there before of kind of that, you know that run and Davidson and and I didn't know that so interesting. Yeah, it was just ended up being a perfect storm the way while you try like you said you can try it, you know, certainly, you know watching in that event small businesses have unique needs and despite the current uncertainty. One thing that remains unchanged is the importance of having the right people on your team when your business is ready to make that next higher LinkedIn jobs can help by matching Your Role with qualified candidates so that you can find the right person quickly plus you can grow your own personal Network, maybe someone you know, has that perfect candidate for you get in touch with that candidate faster with LinkedIn LinkedIn as an active community of professional with more than six hundred ninety million members worldwide LinkedIn job screens candidates with a hard and soft skills. 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Well, you know, I think we're I think they're close to coming up with some sort of schedule at least for December and you know as we talked about earlier, I think everybody's probably 50° we need to play as many games as we can as fast as we can, you know, most of our campuses are going to be empty for the month of December and a good portion of January. Let's try to get as many wage. Soon as we possibly can during that time where you essentially have kind of created a small bubble on your own campus because nobody else is here. You know, I think the I think the bubble possibility. I think I think you're foolish if you don't prepare for something like that in case things go a different direction and it's the only way to get games in and I think our league is doing a good job of preparing for something like that. Should we need to do it? I think us coaches are probably in agreement that we would like to think that that's a last resort. Let's try to play Someone campus and see how that goes. But you know, I think you have to have that as part of your playbook to try to get the season in because we have we have some really good teams in this league this season. How many games do you have right now? I am locked in. I know you got the the deal out at South Dakota, right? You got that one. You're going to go visit Mount Rushmore. Take your kids there while you're over there don't well, you don't know. Yep. Geography because Sioux Falls to Rapid City South Dakota. It's not like you're just walking across the street. It's a it's a half a day drive Jeff and if you'd come and visit the Midwest and the Upper Midwest a little more often and get of your little you know world. They're on the East Coast you would realize there's some great things here. But you know, we have three games there. We are going to go to Kansas for sure talked to Coach self last week and I think we have that worked out that we will play a game there. I believe on December 8th, and and then we're just working on getting a couple home games. And then we're KO Choice Holberg and Iraq discussions on how how are we going to play our game with likely the big tent and the big he's starting in December when we usually play that game. So it's trying to find a spot for it that'll work for both teams. But then now your to your seven and you have 20 League games in a way you go so, you know, there's not a lot of flexibility, but you know, I like the fact that I have a you know an experience team I would hope will happen. That better than some others. Yeah, I think and I've done this when I've ranked in the preseason the teams have bring back a ton of players like you guys like Villanova like Baylor off Gonzaga are going to have a major advantage this year, aren't you? Well, I think experience always matters in college basketball and I don't think that's ever been in question and you see teams that that have guys have been around and been in their system and it just makes it so much easier. I think this year because this year so different I think it's very very important to your point. And you know that's been kind of our majah this year is like it's going to be different. There's going to be interruptions we have to do different better than everybody else and and we have to be able to adjust to the things that are going to come our way and you know home our guys are mature enough to do that. Here's one that people have asked me that I don't even know how to answer yet. And you may not have an answer on this yet. Our fans going to be allowed into into the arena. Do you do you have any idea yet how that's going to play out to start the season and as we go along, you know, there's so many layers to that and I think we're in the middle of that, you know first it has to be allowed where you know in the county that you live in and I think for us it is now it's a matter of of how many can we you know, effectively make sure we have social distancing. How do people get into the game. How do they get out of the game? There's there's a lot of there's a lot of planning that goes into that and then, you know, you have to have the blessing of your conference and of your University. So, you know, I think there are places where there would not be any fans and I think there are some that you know, hopefully can try it and see how it goes. And I'd like to think that we could be one of them but having said all that you have to you know, obviously our players and staff. Safety is Paramount and then you have to Pivot to you know fans of you're going to want to come to the game. But you're also want to make sure you're providing them a safe environment as well. So often a lot of check marks that have to be checked before that happens. I think you know football even though it's outdoors. I think having some games on t v and people getting more comfortable understand they try to wear masks the best you can in those environments. I think that all helps so, you know, I'm hopeful that will at least be able to play in front of a few fans. Yeah. I'm trying to figure out where where I should go off where I can go, you know for it to start like Mohegan Sun's two hours from me. So I don't have to get on a plane to go there. Do I go to Orlando do I go go see, you know, South Dakota and you can reach me on a on a little trip there of you know, what's in the midwest. I don't know. Well there there will be fans. I know they're you know, I think they'll be three or four hundred per school. At least. That's the plan right off. For the for the event and Sioux Falls and the Sanford Health people will do a great job up there. Obviously, it's a huge Medical Hospital organization. That's putting it on so, you know it safety will not be first and foremost, but we're playing in a wonderful facility in the Pentagon and I think it'll be a obviously it's a great event. There's some good teams in it egg circling back to the very first question. I had to you on your golf game. I was thinking who's the best golfer of any college basketball coach in America? Man, there's nobody, you know really good that we don't know about out there. Dan majerle's a great player in a you know, he's not from college basketball now, but he was for a long time but he he's a scratch golfer Steve alford's a good player. Um, you know, there's there's some good ones Ricardo Patton used to be a usually with him a little bit. He's a really good player of Doc Sadler sucks. He's not near as good as he thinks he is, but now there's I think there's a lot of guys that like to play the game and enjoy the game. But listen, I appreciate you jumping on em, I do I hope all is well. I hope you guys can get going practice here this week and kind of return to some sense of normalcy. I know you already have a little bit and I think as we get closer here, we would need everybody to kind of have their schedules in place in the next couple weeks be back practicing and you know, listen get to November 25th. Yeah, and you know, that's our hope let's let's let's get there. Let's get start playing some games and you know, and I think once the games start I think that's even more motivation for our team to make sure you're doing all the right things when you're not in our facility know it's easy to control what's going on here college students. When you when you leave the walls of this building and you and you're out on campus with other students and interact with other students, you know, that's where you a problem can arise. So hopefully as we get closer to those games, they'll be even more motivation to make sure we're doing the right things and you know, hopefully we can have a great season next podcast will do your son was working out so he was unable to to surprise you and pop on and tell a few stories, you know ripping on you but next one will have time. I'll have to coordinate it a little better. Yeah. He he enjoys that he's good at that but he needs to be back in the gym. So that's good to hear. He's image James shooting the ball shooting the ball and he dead Know what he needs is a haircut. That's what he needs. You are right there. I don't I think there's maybe been one slight trim since the middle of January. So I don't know how I don't know how Teresa let him go out and National t with that Heretics thinks. It's pretty cool, but I don't know. He quit listen to me a long time ago. Yeah, so I hope that that that's happening right now with with my daughter trust me at Seventeen years old and you get that they you know, they know everything and she's had her license for for a month. And you know, you can't tell her anything about you know, what what she's doing wrong. None of it. No, that's that's the beauty of those teenage years and sometimes when they get to twenty-three or twenty-four, they they'll come back and look at you and say you weren't as dumb as I thought you were all those years, but that's about as that's about as close to to complement as you're going to get. Well, listen, thanks for jumping out again. We'll talk soon, and hopefully hopefully we'll get a chance to see you at some point this year. I'm always great to catch up Jeff you gotta thanks Greg. Take care.

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ACC coaches are going to propose that every team in college basketball plays in the 2021 NCAA Tournament. Thanks: WE HATE IT.

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ACC coaches are going to propose that every team in college basketball plays in the 2021 NCAA Tournament. Thanks: WE HATE IT.

"All right. The NFL season is back Thursday night. We'll Brinson, and the crew from the pick six podcast brought you a pod every single weekday in the off season they're insane and they're great. So with football season finally here they're ramping up the frequency with a minimum of eight weekly pick six episodes Brinson. You're out of your mind I. Love You. Pick six will be there for gambling and fantasy picks leading up to games, and also there will be recast as soon as the Games end for the most comprehensive audio experienced download and subscribe to pick six apple podcasts, spotify stitcher and wherever else podcasts are found. Hey there it's scary. Purchased Wednesday certificate two, thousand and twenty. Welcome back to CBS. Sports I on College Basketball podcast where we? Discuss Campbell fighting and leaky Black Matt norlander is here with me and here's something interesting that happened this morning the ACC coaches held there weekly conference call earlier today agreed to formally propose that the two thousand twenty one, NC double tournament include all three, hundred, Fifty, seven, Division One men's basketball team. So let's start here norlander. Should we have an incidentally tournament with more than three hundred, fifty teams? No. And No. Hold on hold. And wait what's that? No, this is. All right. So this is the kind of. This is the kind of headline that will is so outrageous it will reverberate. Beyond. College basketball and bill, I honestly would be the kind of thing that I expect to be on the PTI rail later this afternoon. How interesting that it comes? How interesting it comes two days after I recommended a bunch of Mini Quasi AA tournaments to start the season but I'm not surprised by this because. I know that for a while now. Mike. CHEF. Ski has been endorsing behind the scenes. The idea of a one, hundred, twenty, eight team tournament how they got from that to just being like Just F- everyone go ahead and get in the pool. I'm not entirely sure. Jim Boeheim has long been. An endorser of expanding the tournament I think ninety six teams has been his has been selling point for a number of years. I don't like this at all. And we're literally getting this information in restarting odd cast it because we are in the middle of another one. Obviously, this is this is so interesting big that it demands immediate discussion and plenty of criticism. Here's why it's an issue. One. Place Nowhere close to even signing off on this the NC Double A. and its TV partners WanNa, have a sixty eight team tournament that starts in March like it always does that is their highly desired starting point. Okay and I understand that there was there was there are going to be certain brackets formats in logistics on how they would think they could try and do this. Every single coach in the sport is going to endorse this obviously because you can say I made the ended up tournament and ain't GonNa work like that. Now, if you have this many teams, the double a. runs the tournament, parish it funds and runs the tournament the. A does not have the manpower to be able to run a state. This is why. I love the idea of a early season, three, hundred and fifty, three, hundred, three, hundred, Fifty, seven teams. In this sport, I love the idea of starting the season with a three hundred fifty, seventeen bracket I even briefly thought about it before I came up with the idea posted earlier this week on the site, but it's logistically not doable I don't even see how this is. Viable from testing standpoint, it's disastrous if you have potential outbreaks from one team to another, which is why I've said in the past if you're GonNa have a tournament, you should have it in my opinion in one site and bubble up like that. So this is the brainchild of the ACC coaches. Mike Jesse and Jim Boeheim and I. You know the the biggest voices in that in that. League obviously are going to be pushing for this but I am extremely anti this not because they'll never stick with it I. Don't think this is so ridiculous that it's the one case where you could expand the tournament and they will definitely shrink it going forward. But this is just this is coaching. Brainstorming Gone Amok and beyond anything else I think that it would do more to devalue the college basketball regular season and make it a joke more than anything. We've ever seen before when in fact, college basketball stakeholders should be trying to do the opposite and bring as much value as possible to a unique season. I was I've been asked by various coaches several times over the past few months like what do you think about expanding the tournament just in this year like you said some of them Giambi Perhaps, most notably have been in favor of expanding the tournament for years now I'm. One hundred percent against that like I know that every year somebody's on the wrong side of the bubble and they feel like they get screwed. But at a sixty eight team tournament as somebody who has put together brackets and studied the bubble and all that stuff. The truth is if you're good, you're in the tournament that good teams do not get left out of the men's basketball tournament. You're if you can't get in, you have been very average at best. So I find it completely unnecessary to expand unless your argument is. GP We got to make as much money as we make, and there's more money to be made. With a expanded postseasons and like I I can't argue against that I if the bottom line is money, then just say the bottom line money and do it but. The idea that we need to expand the tournament for any reason other than money revenue is is nonsense good teams do not get left out at bad teams sometimes get in good teams do not get left out so but but obviously, we're living in different times right now like we're in the middle of a pandemic. Barring surprise shortened season played in an unprecedented way. So I've been asked several times over the like. What what would you think about expanded tournament? You'll just in this year and I say I could get behind it just in this year like Major League Baseball has expanded its postseason presumably they say just in this year. And the reason is simple with a shortened season. You provide more postseason opportunities for teams, but let's cut through that BS. Here's the truth. There's more money in playoff baseball than there is regular season baseball. Seles cut the regular season, edit the postseason in maximize revenue. So I'm for expanding the tournament in this year in the season to some degree but not all not every team like we don't need every team in the stupid NCAA tournament. First, we don't need all these teams that Division One Basketball I. Could say I wish we could take care of that like the idea that. Idaho and Kentucky are competing for the same trophy is fundamentally ridiculous. Someday I hope to look up and we've got we cut this thing easily and half probably even more than that I'd be fine with it. We wouldn't miss all of these teams like people like the quote Cinderella Stories, but like we don't need the Cinderella Story to be. Wagner you know like we we figure something else out but so. I just. I do that they were talking along these lines, the coaches about expanding. I did not know that they plan to go all the way to 357, but that is the formal proposal and I hope that it is. It is not accepted because it seems tweeted this the best word I can come up with this excessive it seems excessive. I mean ridiculous. Idiotic. Unnecessary. anti-theft to the actual idea of having a regular season. Here's something. So we had to reboot the podcast I'm trying to send text messages get more. I will read directly tweet from our friend Pat Forty. This. What are we doing here? It says the plan would turn. The plan would turn conference championship week into the opening round of the big dance from their field is reduced to sixty four sixty by the following week. That's already what happens with conference tournaments. What are we doing here? Are we saying that like the first round and second round and third round and fourth round and fifth round and six round of the tournament would be conferences playing each other no I actually don't think that's okay. Means because the the ACC is never going to get on board with. We only get one team into you know whatever I think what he means is the incidentally tournament will quote start the week that championship week normally start. So if you're going to have a conference tournament in the SEC, you're gonNA have to move that up. Where are we putting this where these sites how we pay for it? How we staffing at how we getting? Enough officials are we having backup officials for Cova protocols what kind of testing is going to be there? This is a fun idea for coaches. In theory to me, it's not based on a lot of logic. Nobody has any desire to see any kind of nine, ten, fourteen, sixteen wind low major mid major team in a tournament to begin with no one has any sort of desire to see any kind of you know I'll twelfth place team in the ACC play in the incidentally tournaments. So none of that stuff I think is is even close to reasonable I. Just don't I don't think this benefits college basketball's cost, and in fact, ACC coaches by doing this see the. Listen. They're operating in their own silos and all that. But they don't realize that presenting this kind of plan actually makes college basketball look like something of a joke here where it's like, yeah everyone gets in the tournament because even though you and I understand that this is not actually the case, it's not the absolute easiest thing to get into the tournament but for many casual sports fans this. Sixty eight t mental tournament is a is a Utopian sports event every march, but it does have this impression of like. Well, there are sixty eight teams in this thing. So it's not exactly the hardest thing to get in if you can't get in, you almost deserve to lose your job. If even the time of the pandemic amid the coronavirus, they decided to expand this thing I just think. It just erodes everything about the sport leading up to that moment what good luck. Good luck even trying to see that by the way, and I'll tweet that when respond here how do you even see that? How do you see it actually seems actually legitimately impossible to even remotely try and accurately see the tournament like that. So you would have chaos chaos, and if you WANNA make a case perished like well, you know what? What? The Hell let's just get on with it and just have complete and utter chaos left and right that's fine. But that's that's an. That's true impossibility. Last thing here the reason why I think this is also and I'm just GONNA I'm GonNa roll with this. Now because this, the fact that the coaches put this out there I'm I'll share this with the public the ACC right now as I understand it is. I don't think it's necessarily more likely to do this than not, but it is definitely on the table. See Right now you have all of these conversations happening and there's good communication but the ACC is one of two power conference leagues as I understand right now, that is prepared to go legally for a number of reasons and one of those reasons would. Be If. We get to a certain point with all these tournament organizers and we'll get that later on the podcast and you got eleven different non-conference, November and December events. The ACC is prepared to say you know what? We'll just go twenty six league games do a round robin had that constitute our regular season and will be good with that obviously the. Doesn't want to have a situation where you have five seven, nine conferences, go league only, and then everyone else is playing a non conference because that really makes for some irregularity. But if the did that that is also another reason why the ACC coaches would be presenting a plan like this because if you only played league games only helps their cost to have everyone in the pool because they haven't had any long nonleague action go ahead. That's exactly right like. They see coaches have been meeting weekly and I a few weeks ago I was told that Mike Chef Ski. Leonard Hamilton some of the bigger older coaches in that league were most interested in playing conference only schedules that if you left it up to them. They had reached a point of we need to do what's best for us. We need to take care of us. It's not our job to. To make this work for three hundred and fifty teams like let's take care of us. Let's focus on us. I don't want to say that every coach in the league felt that way but I was told the majority of coaches on these conference call. Definitely subscribed to that. Now I bet you as they start taking this to. The people that you take it to they were told, well, the problem with conference only schedules is that. It makes it very hard for the metrics to work. The metrics aren't as accurate and it makes trying to select teams for the Ncaa Tournament Problem Attic. So then their counter to that is well, then they'll just put everybody in the tournament. That's where we're at and. It just doesn't work for a variety of reasons. Here's another one by the way and I think this is one that gets gets lost. What is the reason? The NBA didn't WanNa take all thirty teams to Disneyworld. The main reason? The more teams, the more people, the more possibilities for outbreak. Correct. Okay. Well, let's just apply that same logic here. If we're doing three, fifty seven, you subtract sixty eight that are normally and we are adding two hundred eighty nine teams to an NCAA tournament thirteen scholarship players on each team just based on what's allowed. That's three thousand seven, hundred, Fifty, seven more basketball players competing in the quote NC Double A. Tournament you are increasing. The likelihood of an outbreak by a bazillion why? What is the point? Like it just doesn't I I will be I. Don't want to say shocked because who knows like we're living in unprecedented times I can't imagine the NC Double A. is actually going to think this is a good idea. I. Bet this is ends up being a compromise we will expand the tournament. From sixty eight to something. But we're not going to three five or seven. We're not going everybody everybody is. Excessive in by excessive I mean ridiculous I. Let us also reset here and put this in context for our listeners. This is obviously just So outrageous that it creates a headline we are reacting in real time and it is one idea from one conference granted that conference has multiple hall of fame coaches in and it's arguably the most prominent conference in the sport, but it's just one idea I'm not even there that they're going to compromise. I still think the instable a for many logistical reasons has no desire or intention to expand the tournament and I I mean. I spoke with someone the NCWA level and just because people might assume, this will be the personal. It was not Dan Gavitt, but it was someone else. In in DC authority there, and as recently as a week and a half ago there was no desire to expand the tournament whatsoever now, can they get to that point? Obviously, the NABC is going to lobby for this. It's a selection committee nightmare. The committee wants absolutely nothing to do with this as well and. It's just one idea what is true is they're going to try and work backward from. Okay. How big is the tournament and when do we want to have it and then from there? What's our calendar going to look like in terms of? Game allow ability what I also think is. Factoring into this. Is the uncertainty of how many games this season will entail I think that coaches in talking with their athletic directors coaches by the way hearing. From I mean I had two ACC coaches tell me that they've been on calls with you know high ranking, highly respected doctors that are not just working like the field of the instability like they are on the frontlines of of major health discussions and decisions at governmental levels dealing with public policies and those doctors have told ACC coaches that at this point. While, it's certainly possible. You could get a college basketball season up and running by the end of November or early. December. They are even to the point where the like you know if you could start by the end of January. That would be that would be a great ideal scenario not that I think college basketball season won't start until January, I'm just trying. To get you a little bit more of a perspective on how they land at this point when they're being told by respected people in their medical fields. Here's a potential reality. You might not be you might have all the best laid plans start your season in the year twenty twenty, but you might actually have to wait until January or maybe end of anywhere. Or early February to do that and so when they hear that kind of stuff they think, okay. Well, are they going to have the tournament still like in mid March and the march or early April? If that's the case like are we only going to have like a ten game season twelve game season guys if that's the case shouldn't we planned for something? In the event that no one can play a lot of games and what's the one solution to that? Know what everyone is willing to sacrifice and we're all into the tournament I think personally i. think that is the mindset and the discussions that led the to get to this point and I do think that every coach in the sport is going to basically endorsed this but it will be on the oversight committee will be on Dan Gavitt to an conference commissioners to really push back against us and say logistically. TV networks are capable of and here's how we're even capable of even staffing this thing of hosting it in how many sites. So there's there's so much to get to. Do Hope this is something of a comment and dies off relatively quickly. But when you have guys like Mike Francesca and Jim behind signing off in endorsing this, obviously, it's going to gain some legs. There's no question I. Guess if you were trying to argue for it like let's just be counter argue for a second if you're trying to argue for. It you would say I. Think Listen that NCAA tournament is with, is worth a billion dollars a year in AD revenue. Now, the idea that you expand it and and could get you know five times as much. Money seems crazy like unrealistic, but you could expand it in probably get more money you know. So you say we're trying to maximize revenue and It's the only thing that matters like if one of the ACC, photos of talking to me right now he's a GP bliss. You have consistently said since the pandemic started. The only thing that matters is having two thousand and twenty one NCAA tournament you've gotTa have it you gotTa have it. You gotTa have it. So this is a way to ensure that we have it and it's fair for everybody because we're not sure everybody is going to be able to play fifteen games, eighteen games, thousand five games, Thirty Games in advance of what is normally selection Sunday, and so we don't want to get to a place where we have to lead teams out because we say, well, you didn't play enough games or you didn't do this or you didn't do that. Let's just avoid. And ensure that everybody will have a chance to compete for the championship regardless of what the regular season it looks like because we're putting everybody in the tournament, and then again, we get to hold the NC Double A. Tournament and make all of the money that we need to make I guess that's the counterargument but that's not good enough for me. I'd say I hear you but this is silly. They're going to be that like this idea and they're they're going to like our love this idea based on an approach, envision to college basketball and the greatness of its postseason. I hate this idea because I still maintain that college basketball, I have a devotion college basketball regular season and college basketball needs to be doing all that it can pandemic otherwise to bring as much urgency and relevancy and creativity to its regular season as possible you eliminate. So much of the work you're GONNA try and do and getting these games done between November December until whenever the end of the regular season is. By doing this so I don't think that this is going to happen I just. I'M NOT GONNA say it's impossible I. I truly hate the idea perish I. Mean I love the sport I I cannot stand this idea. This entrust me I've I've heard from. I've heard from coaches at big schools musical small schools over the entire summer about expanding I hadn't heard three, fifty seven. But I've heard plenty of being like here's why you need to go to one twenty, eight guarantee at least two game two teams police Cetera et Cetera. Here's why it would work and I keep coming back to man that's too many teams you risking outbreak the money it's just not how would you seeded, etc. This is that to the degree and you know because it's making so much noise out. You'll get plenty of people responding to this on the record. Held by the end of the day if not by the end of the week, this all comes by the way. War One week out from the Division One council's vote to start the season. I'll I'll toss a little bit of a nugget here that I haven't shared. The understanding is that would be it would be November twenty fifth I've been told that that November twenty third is still might be kind of a last minute adjustment date because there are so many mt ease that that are scheduled to start the twenty third. They don't see what the point is between two days. So all of this is building up to the D. One council vote. We see we clearly have a lot of noise with this particular thing. Any kind of decision on this? If you're curious we are we are looking at. Two to three months minimum and we would almost certainly in my opinion start the season. If it started at the end of November parish before we even knew this was doable at a three fifty, seventeen level if it were if it were to be approved, that is definitely something that would that would take just so long to figure out in. Be Able to turn around and six or seven months. We should point out by the way and it doesn't matter the points. Every point we've made remains the same, but it wouldn't actually be three, five, seven like teams are. Banned. Because of APR Reasons Poor Oklahoma. State. Still can't get in that's also that's A. Point that's that and we don't even know if some leagues will wind up playing by the way. So there's also that yeah. So this could be a three hundred and thirty team tournament three forty five year, right? Absolutely. Okay. So let's bottom line it. Two thumbs down from the college basketball podcast. Is that correct to just all the way down there continuing to drop to go down down down down down I ninety, six, three, fifty, seven and you've got me waking up at two forty five in the morning with colts this is yeah. I again, I'm I am in. Favor of, but I'm okay with expanding but not all the way to include body who is eligible for the NCAA tournament. Again, excessive is the word that comes to mind. Let's move on details about how it's short to be unusual two, thousand, twenty, twenty, one college basketball season Mike get started continued to be revealed nor later. Tuesday night about a possible nonleague bubble at Mohegan Sun in Connecticut that would take place. In December we're going to get to that next I. Check this up. 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You won't find anywhere else. You can download and subscribe on Apple spotify Stitcher Youtube, or wherever else you find your podcasts. No B. s no soft tosses no hot takes it's always business it's nothing personal. So. Details about how the season might and I emphasize. The word might get started continued to be revealed and nor later had a story on Tuesday night about a possible nonleague bubble at Mohegan sign that would take place in in December. So New Orleans you walk us through it obtained the documents. What does that proposal look like and do you think it will actually happen? This big tournament totally thrown me. So this was this was to be the lead item on the podcast I do think this is going to happen now the. There were three documents that have been sent along the schools and stakeholders about the hall of fame which puts on. An event the tip off at Mohegan every single year and has for a decade. It wants to hold a true college basketball bubble in December and I mean true bubble. If you get to Mohegan Sun, you don't leave the property until you're done playing or if you create a positive test either. The initial plan, and this was the initial plan was sixteen teams thirty two games over the course of eight days that doesn't include like arrival quarantine testing and practice pre practices and all that kind of good stuff now I have. I knew this was what I didn't include I included via sources was sixteen was the initial proposal. There's going to be more than sixteen teams, and in fact, after my story went up, I had a representative from the hall of fame call to clarify a couple of things which are important to this to this story. First of all testing is paramount and actually they plan on. Now instead of using the nose nasal swab, they wanNA use the saliva direct test which was created by Yale funded by the NBA an mvp a that is going to be the testing method and it's going to be done through. Through saliva samples and they're gonna get all that stuff. So that's that's an upgrade to the initial plan. The other thing is. They have to figure out what teams want to come can come willing to come and then are going to provide an car option if you will for schools. Let me give you one example Baylor one of the best teams in college basketball this season is scheduled to play in one. Terry Teagle went to school. That is correct. That is correct shots to to Terry Teagle. He's the legend so. Baylor is scheduled to play and one of these Gazelle Group Games which would be scheduled to play in the new. York City area. The Gazelle group is going to almost certainly move up to Mohegan Sun but the problem is Baylor. Has the Jimmy V. Classic which would bump up against this. So you have certain schools that would be involved in Mohegan games that could be involved in other either single night made for TV events or other notable non conference games whose fates have not been determined yet. So what the Mohegan Sun and the hall of fame are going to be willing to do is basically saying Baylor. Okay, you go down theoretically you play in Orlando as I understand it ESPN's going to try and get a bunch of these MTA's to be played in Orlando right up close to win the season's starting and then. Jimmy V. being like the finale event of all the Orlando Games as I understand it at this point, no full final decisions have been made, and then Baylor would have the option to say, okay, we're going to either fly directly Mohegan or will fly back home for X. amount of days. Then they would get to Mohegan and they would have the option if Baylor went to the organizers and said, you know what? We just want to non conference games at Mohegan they'd be like that's cool. If they went if they say, you know what we're going to make the trip if you can actually help us, we're going to kill. Off some other, it can get us five opponents. When we come there if the schedule allows for it, they will do that. So you will have some teams that may get two or three games other teams that might get five or six games the big unknown at this point, and this is such a complex issue. Everyone's waiting for the vote on the sixteenth to see when the season can start and under what terms and wants that vote comes through all these tournament organizers across the country are going to just go nuts could be a cluster if you get what I'm saying, but we wait and see on on all of that. What we don't know how many teams will go to Mohegan and how all those formats would play out I do want to make this known. There is a willingness across college basketball. Regardless of the event you've got, you know you've got the Mohegan Sun I reported on Tuesday as well that the battle for Atlantis is going to be leaving the Bahamas and Sioux Falls South Dakota is potential destination for that I can get to that in a minute if we need to explain more as to why that is, but the point is. All of these events you have the bigger schools willing and wanting to include at least a couple of mid majors to one. They want they want the feed if you will they want the easy wins if you will. But they also want to help out these schools benefit and ways because it's going to be necessary to their long lasting legitimacy as an athletic. Department in many regards to being able to have a schedule qualify for the tournament if it's not three hundred and fifty frickin teams. So keep that in mind as well. If you're listening to this in your fan of a small school team, there are discussions and a lot of consideration being given to allowing those teams to play in these events I do think it. Isn't inevitability that a lot of them will get the short end of the stick and be left out but these events that are going to be in Orlando potentially ashville potentially. Mohegan. Sun. Sioux falls South Dakota Las. Vegas. It's been bandied about I've until Louisville's in the mix There will be some small schools that will be taken into consideration that have opportunities. And play those as well. I've been rambling comments and questions go ahead imagine thinking you were going to Atlantis and you end up in Sioux falls can I explain okay so you're right and when I sent that news out that tweet out on Tuesday everyone made that joke and it's absolutely correct here's why Sioux falls it's going to be a destination it's the only It is the only bubble site that is directly working in conjunction in business every day with a healthcare providers Sanford health out of Sioux falls is the entity that has been responsible for providing everything about testing and protocols. With the PGA tour. It's got an actual health organization that has taken on a major American sport and guided the PGA tour with all of its Cova testing. That is a huge obviously a huge selling point. To Conference Commissioners Athletic Director Schools and so yes Sioux falls and also by the way it's in the middle of nowhere weirdly enough you had this huge banker rally. That's that's. The story that's led to like it was a huge super spreader event like it was it was a massive it's created massive amounts of cases based on the research that's been done and Sioux falls is one of the spots where it was at. So Ironically Enough Sioux falls is relatively you know in the middle of nowhere, but the state is actually about right now. Regardless of all that they have more than enough hotels and it would be just like the way that Orlando is a bubble in the middle of hotspot Florida. It would be there. So yes, Atlantis going to Sioux Falls, which is not definite. I've just been told by multiple sources. That's the preferred destination right now because of many factors the health stuff being one of them I would anticipate that if we can have bubbles that the Pentagon which is what it's called the basketball facility up, there would be one of the premier and. Destinations for many factors. Any good. It was the sturgis motorcycle rally and the study showed just. So we make sure we got it exactly right that there was a study done that attributed perhaps more than two hundred, fifty, thousand Cova nineteen cases to that rally from people. Being there. Then going back into their communities all over the country and spreading the virus that they contracted while at this motorcycle rally. So As is the case would basically everything in two thousand twenty? The study gets reported, and then if it confirms what you think about this virus you go oh my God see and if you are a virus Denier, you just dismiss the study and call it fake news like that's where we're at trust me I posted that study on the facebook page and it just turned into an absolute nightmare. I've been Sioux falls by the way it's actually beautiful place the only thing the the main thing I remember about it laid that in Sioux. Falls. And with the baggage claim. And I'm not exaggerating I. Think I was the only person they're not pick not picking up a weapon. Like everybody's best like my suitcase came through and I grabbed it and everybody else had like a were guns. They were all going there hunting. It was like big the week and I was there was a big. Hunting weekend. So every weekend there is a big hunting we can get. So so I I don't remember where I flew from like maybe Memphis to Minneapolis the Minneapolis Sioux falls it sounds like that might have been right. But by entire flight from wherever I connected to Sioux falls was me And people who love to kill animals. That's all it was. Pretty some pretty wild scene but. Chelsea to pit the God I'm sure if you put it there, it'll. It'll go. Great. Here's my question to you because when I talked to coaches and obviously this is all changing to fill like every day. But when I've been talking to the few weeks day. Felt, like for the most part, they could create these little bubbles nonleague situations on their own that they didn't need an organizer to do it like Jay Wright and John Calipari and mark few and Tom. Izzo we're talking about, hey, how can we get together and do this? And then in your story I noticed that part of like if you want to get involved I believe. The number was seven you gotta pay seventy, five thousand dollars like is Kentucky. Really GonNa pay seventy five thousand dollars to be in a bubble with a bunch of teams or is Kentucky. Just going to say we run run ourselves. I think it's going to be willing and I was also told that. Can these these coaches about these tournaments right now it's ridiculous. My Gosh. Did Kentucky would be obviously capable of doing that Peirce but actually cal Perry went on a podcast with arm Mandy cats, and he was vocal about wanting to participate in these events help the smaller schools. There's not going to be equity even callous offering up like antidotes like if my players decided to go out and hang with the girlfriends and we're out for two weeks as a quarantine that's bad on us. So He's actually I it's been really. Uplifting the see cow publicly take this stance and stand up for the little guys I would hope that that's going to happen behind the scenes I was also told him regard Mohegan Sun seventy five thousand was. That is the number that in the proposal smaller schools would not necessarily have to pay that much. There will be no there would be negotiated prices. So if you're if you're a smaller school and that's too steep. They would accommodate otherwise there. So keep that in mind also keep in mind this. No one knows what's going to happen with non conference play it is it is by far the biggest issue that I think actually, it doesn't have as urgent see right now behind it. You know everything before I start date to those games get killed off to they get pushed back to another year are their inevitable lawsuits. We don't know but there are going to be plenty of schools that are looking to play as many non conference games as allowable. As close to their campus as possible. So Just, for example, and I'm not saying this happened I'm not saying I got until on this but this specific school was pointed out to me as one that would make sense right now providence is scheduled to play in the Maui Tournament and the Maui Tournament hasn't officially left out yet I've been told there are at least five cities that are aggressively trying to get married to go and play there. There is no front runner at this point but providence unless that Mao unless the Maui tournament got relocated to Mohegan Sun, which is not in the cards I, understand it or or somewhere that was close by It would prefer probably to not have to fly. Somewhere far off and go do that when it can simply hop on a bus DRI- forty seven minutes to the Mohegan Sun and get non conference opponents that are basically on the same level as what they would be an amount pod and get that done. So what you may see what you may see its teams that are scheduled to be in one as we referred to them. Mt. Bow Out and you'll have swaps you'll have geographic trades where it's like, okay you know what you are supposed to be in the group that's going to go play in Orlando instead now you're going to Mohegan Sun I do think that is an option. The next thing that schools are waiting to find out is, when is there going to be a vote end a decision? Made on the maximum allowable games overall for teams 'cause it's thirty one and that number is dropping. What is it going to go from thirty? One to twenty? Seven, twenty, five we don't know ns they're going to be a maximum allowable number of games for non conference. If that's the case, what does that number going to beat? Let's just say it's eight perish toss number there. I think you would have a situation where a lot of schools would say, okay we can play eight Non Conference Games Mohegan Sun or Orlando or Vegas, or whatever. Can you get a six of these games? CAN WE POE? Can we just knock out six to weeks time and get those done? That is that is a premise that I can tell you multiple coaches at top twenty five programs. have endorsed him personally and I. Think they're willing to do it but the installation, the oversight committee have to officially approved that I have game allowances and we're just not there yet. All right. If you haven't read the story yet posted Tuesday night in. ORLANDO. Obviously tweeted it I re tweeted it so you can find it on twitter or at CBS sports dot Com and like I said The most encouraging thing about all of this is that there are actual plans being made to try to conduct basketball season in some form. What is it going to look like? We still don't know exactly but a all I wanted from the jump and I wrote this column. A month or two ago is just don't wait around and assume everything will be okay. Let's start planning and quite clearly of people are planning. So that's that's a great sign that suggest. Even, if our country is not in a better place as it relates to Kobe nineteen or even a good place at all that there might be a way to actually have a two thousand and twenty twenty, one college basketball season before we get out of here. Some MBA news broke Tuesday night that might could theoretically impact college basketball document is out at Oklahoma City after five years. Witness happens immediately people start speculating about whether he would return to college because obviously. You know he's a future Naismith, memorial, Hall of Famer, he's a man who's won two national championships. He is reportedly going to be involved with the Philadelphia Search and possibly other jobs. So and my understanding is that it all things being equal. He would prefer to remain an NBA coach than a college coach again but norlander, do you could you envision a scenario where Billy Donovan is? I don't know next season, not this upcoming season. But after that Coaching College basketball, I actually can't my thinking and understanding on this is I, believe the same as yours as a few other reporters have kind of made clear that Billy Donovan is very comfortable and wanting to be an NBA coach. At this point he had in my opinion a very successful run with Oklahoma. City and the fact that he is not going to continue coaching, there is more him being a victim of circumstance and that franchise taking a look at its roster and and trying to maybe hit something of a reset and Donovan. Not Wanting to have himself at a failure with a second contract with Rosser situation that he would not prefer. He knows he's a commodity at the NBA market. You're GONNA see his name floated wish Chicago Indiana and Philadelphia I. Think it's plenty likely that he actually winds up coaching at any of those three franchises and if you told me that by the end of September, that was all wrapped up, I wouldn't be surprised at all. So I do think that he's going to continue coaching the NBA. Billy Donovan's chances at returning to college basketball in the next three years honestly perish I put it at like two percent, i. just. We should bring them up on the podcast and talk about him because he's he's obviously is one of the better college basketball coaches the past twenty five years but I think that part of his life is behind him and certainly he could get any job that he wanted but I think he is proved himself to be. A worthy NBA coach, she's going to have some suitors and I think that he's GonNa land with another job, and I do think he'll be coaching in the NBA next season. Did you say two percent two percent that he returns to college basketball the next three? I would put it higher than that but I but I still would put it well below fifty percent I think he's going to be an NBA coach. Shoot my two percents throwing you there. Just seems really low like a ninety eight percent chance billy Donovan will be doing something other than Cudi Gallant basketball seems a little high, but but you and I are on the same nature I don't think he's going to go to college basketball. Next season I think he's going to be an NBA coach again, five years in Oklahoma City. made the playoffs all five years, but lost in the first round each of the past four years. Obviously. He took over a team. With Kevin Durant Russell. WESTBROOK insurgents. Those were three starters through the top scores on his first team. The. Conference Finals Western Conference finals that season and then he lost Kevin. Durant. And Serge Ibaka after that year Trivia time. Okay. Okay. The only player Billy of First Oklahoma City team that was also on his last Oklahoma City team was even Adams. That's very good. It was Stephen Adams. Look at you nailing Trivia here's what's interesting to me. So he goes to Oklahoma City inherits a team with Russ in K. D. he takes it to I believe at three seed. In. In the the three seat in the West they go to the Western. Conference finals they play the warriors they lose in seven games. If he wins game seven. Against the warriors goes to the finals. Does Katie ever leave. It is billy Donovan sitting here as the coach of an NBA champion. No. No what do you think? I mean listen. I would pick Lebron in the finals in two, thousand, sixteen against. The thunder because he's the king. But if Oklahoma City knocked off golden state, it's crazy to think they could knocked off Cleveland and if we're going to see wins the world championship that year I don't think Kevin durant leaves. Yeah. I mean, that's that's an ultimate. What if there and it? It's just that's kind of life in the NBA Perish. Those kind of decisions from players they just it just seems like they're just huge. It's time for the wave affects not ripple effects in terms of how they can affect coaching careers and just kind of the way that the that the NBA goes one direction versus and other you look at the. Clippers this year being one of the most prominent instances of that with what able to do with that team. The Raptors are still good. Don't get me wrong but the clippers wouldn't be the clippers as we know them if quiet and decided what he did to do what he did. It's just amazing to me how often people's careers bikes stinted lives come down to these like moments where if it goes a different way? Everything unfolds differently like billy Donovan coached so far around four hundred regular season games in the NBA. And if he wins that one game seven in the Western Conference finals in his first year in Oklahoma City it is possibly wins the championship and Kevin Durant doesn't leave. Then maybe he's got a dynasty, maybe he doesn't. But it just the entire thing unfolds differently as it is he is unemployed but I think you and I agree probably won't be unemployed long I suspect when the two thousand and twenty twenty, one NBA season starts whenever that is billy. Donovan will be coaching some some team what of the thirty involved in in that league shells to Devon Down South Carolina. Terry MFN teagle legend Shasta Lar- now. Thanks for listen. Once again to the island college basketball podcast in the middle of a pandemic. If you enjoy it, please tell one person about it, and if you're not already subscribe, please go subscribe anywhere you subscribe to podcasts including Apple podcasts we both appreciate it someplace That, you get a couple of minutes. In either way. 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Byline she's the president of the wnba and she's a former atlanta city council president and coca cola executive and she certainly is very familiar with the wnba as she was instrumental in getting the atlanta dream expansion franchise to the city and then helping it secure new ownership and she's been a longtime women's basketball fan and says i have spent the lion's share of my career carrying the torch for women because i think it's the right thing to do. What are the differences. Lisa that you've found in running a pro sports league what you did in politics or in the corporate world with coca cola. Well actually let me thank you first for having me on and taking the time to elevate the league. We really appreciate that and then to answer your question directly. I actually don't see many differences. I see a substantial amount of similarity so in politics. You must listen to every constituency find the best answer to a challenge and then execute it. That's the same thing you do in any business and that's what the w. nba is fundamentally. It is a business and you have to listen twice as much as you talk. That's why we have two ears and one mouth so anytime you have a business. I believe that you must listen. You must identify your constituencies. You must understand what the problems are. And then you develop the solutions and execute them. So politics is one place where that works. But i would submit to you that. It works almost everywhere. Business first among equals. We don't often think of it that way but it is absolutely the truth. The players actually have a deep skill. Set they are athletic. They are very very talented in this area but this is what they do not who they are. And that's what. I've also seen in the nonprofit sector the corporate sector and the public sector before you took this job. He had an opportunity to talk to the commissioner of the nba. And you were considering the job and you asked him how dedicated he was to the wnba. What was his response has response was that he does in fact believe in the wnba. He wrote the business plan back in the early nineties. The league of course was born in nineteen ninety. Six as you know. We have just celebrated and completed our twentieth anniversary. So adam silver at that. Time was the deputy commissioner today. He is the commissioner with a quarter of centuries experience in basketball and in sports management to have someone of that caliber with that depth of knowledge and experience is incredibly helpful to the league but what is even more impactful is his commitment. It's one thing to understand. A business is another to be committed to it and recognize that you need to put the force of not just your business. Wait your political and emotional weight as the leader. What do you think. The image of women's basketball professional basketball is today. I think the perceptions are getting better in years gone by there. Were questions about the quality of play. There is no question today about the quality of play we have women who are the finest in the world we have twelve teams and a hundred and forty four players. We also source the usa national team. Which has won six consecutive gold medals. So it's not our opinion that these women are the best athletes in the world. There is confirmation and affirmation by virtue of them playing on an international stage and having accomplished the most elite prize. So we are very very proud of these women and we recognize that this has been an evolution not a revolution in terms of perception. But i would say today. It is incredibly positive and we are very very proud of that. Do you still have to battle the image that women don't play the game above the rim or has that changed because a lot of coaches i talked to that are coaching women's teams. Say to me. They're much more than the men are. The boys are the women are very collaborative. They play one of the purest forms of the game. That you could ever envision you only have to take a look at our final series. The best of five between the la sparks the ultimate champion for twenty sixteen and the minnesota lynx. Who have won three out of the last five championships to recognize what talent there is on the floor so for the uninitiated or the. Ill advised or misinformed. They might have that perspective. But i would submit that they have not had an opportunity or perhaps taken the opportunity to go to one of the arenas and one of our twelve markets and actually experienced the game. It really is helpful. If you want to have an informed perspective to have experienced the game seen it played no the players understand the game before you make a statement like that you know lisa. You made a comment. One time about the four metrics of women's basketball the areas of attendance tv ratings sponsorship and also merchandise sales. Where are you in the development of all four of those metrics. A terrific question. It hearkens back to what i said earlier about this fundamental being a business you must manage and mark your progress every step of the way. Those are the four areas that we look at primarily and i am happy to report that after this twentieth season. The business is healthier than it's been in a very long time. Every business metric is positive. Attendance is up four point six percent which is remarkable. Viewership is up eleven percent ask. Espn they will tell you. That is beyond remarkable. Merchandise sales are up. Thirty per cent breanna stewart. The number one draft pick this year led those numbers along with her team. The seattle storm so when you look at our metrics attendance viewership sponsorship merchandise sales sponsorship is also up we recognize that there is tremendous demand for the product that we have on the floor and the fans are rewarding us by attending viewings. Sponsors are engaged and people are wearing our merchandise. There's no better metric or no better measure by which you can determine if in fact this business and this industry is successful. Tell me a little bit about the the roots of your passion for basketball. So i cut my teeth on the men's program at duke university as an undergraduate and that was a long time ago. My friend class of seventy nine. So i'm an old dog here. But i really fell in love with the game watching it evolve at duke. It was not the dynasty that it is today in fact coach k. Wasn't there when i was there. Coast bill foster was there and he started that dynasty in nineteen seventy seven so watching. That game is where. I learned the fundamentals. Not just the rules but how to play the game and play it. Effectively are tribal at duke. Was the university of north carolina. And at that time dean smith. What's the coach there. And they played the four corners and quite frankly it was not nearly as successful. We know that was an offense that slowed down the game incredibly and the rules. Don't allow that type offense today. But that is where i actually learned the game and learn to appreciate the game. We only have about two minutes left but what is it that really raises the hackles on you. I mean that upsets you. The most about the perception of women's sports women's basketball the thing that probably gets me the most Annoyed or the most concerned. If people making what i would call ignorant statements and ignorance means you don't have exposure or experience. You're not stupid stupid. Says you don't have the capacity to process information. People are not stupid but what they often do is make irrational statements about women's basketball about women doing anything quite frankly. I think we have some cultural issues that we need to deal with and basketball falls prey to that just like many other areas. I recently told someone. It took seventy years for women to get the right to vote because men thought we were not smart enough to make a decision on our own so this is no different than it takes. Time to change those minds. And you can't legislate behavior. You cannot legislate people's hearts and minds. That is one over over time. You know you're absolutely right about that. And of course as you know sports and social messaging have become intertwined with each other. Is there a social message with the women's basketball league and and the players in anything that we see. Today i would tell you that. Women's basketball is a growth strategy for the game. There are two international languages in this world music and sport so we are uniquely position frankly to make the world a better place. Our sport happens to be gender neutral and it is played in two hundred and fourteen countries. There is no controversy about how fun the game of basketball is or who can play it. So we are uniquely suited to make the world a better place so our league as i said is a growth strategy for the game so we are helping the world turn just a little bit better well. Congratulations on being named the president of the wnba. I've been a big fan of the league and also women athletics In general and i wanna thank you and count on us to help any way we can. Lisa thanks a lot for joining us here on sports. Byline thank you. it's been my privilege. Lisa borders president of the wnba and the former atlanta city. Council president also coca cola executive and i urge you to go out and watch this league. Watch this game that they play. We continue across the country and around the world on sports byline. Hello and welcome back to the ronnie do each tax program on the line is paul from california. Hi paul what's your tax problem today. Hi ronnie love your show listen. I've got a big problem. 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Byline michael is the well respected national. Nfl columnist for bleacher. Report and the author of eight books including two minute warning al concussions crime and controversy could kill the nfl. And i'm sure a lot of the older football fans remember ken. Stabler former quarterback primarily with the oakland raiders inducted into the pro football hall of fame in two thousand sixteen. He passed away in two thousand. Fifteen and the name of michael's book is really good. One snake the legendary life of ken. Stabler what was it that attracted you to this story. Michael the first. I gotta tell you It's always great. Come on your show. you're one of the best ever. Do it always a total pro. Thank you What was it like to to try to. We can stay where he was a First of all. I always thought he was one of the more under appreciated players in the nfl. History the fact that took so long to get the hall of fame. It's sort of an indicator of that. He was involved with some of the most historic plays in league history. One of the best arms. They've ever seen despite two bad knees. He was also a really really good athlete. and helped transform the raiders. And i thought he was just a fascinating guy that no one had really taken the time to look at and also wanted to write on that era seventies era in terms of football which was so the last era of crazy hardcore football so all those things but but also I come to know him over the years and it just really liked them. He was a very pleasant nice guy that in his later years was nothing like snake he was. He was ken and he was a family man. Who checked on facebook and Texted with his daughters and watch. Tv cnn during the day and he was a different kind of guy then he'd been known so i wanted to sort of capture all of that and in one book you're right and he is a dichotomy. I think that's the word. That i would use with him because he was a different person when he was playing in the nfl and his younger days as well then what it was after he left the game of football. Let's go back to the beginning with him. grew up in alabama. Tell me a little bit about his family. His family his father was Was a a war hero. He fought in world war. Two and Became wounded I wanna make sure. I get this right Bronze star silver star. I believe in what we're too and i know it known this. I got military records. And i saw and i couldn't believe it and His mother was Was a nurse. And and really time great woman and he grew up in the segregated south And and like other people is what to the era. He grew up in and the what he saw didn't didn't didn't impact him permanently and and he became a very openminded guy when it came to race and won most popular players on the team. Who didn't care what ethnicity were care. What what you didn't care about anything or guide. You can play football. So he grew up very conservatively Was a really good high. School athlete. Obviously goes alabama but he grew up in town Very small town and and it's funny how he became a party guy 'cause when he was growing up he didn't really do a lot of it some of it but he really took a different level when he went to the raiders But really grew up kind of a small town guy who became a really big legend. And you're absolutely right about him. Being multitalented athlete particularly in high school he was outstanding when it came to baseball the yankees offered him fifty thousand dollars. I understand yeah he could have. He could have been professional baseball player as easily as you could have been a. He could have been all famer and baseball he he he was really that good and teams really wanted to play but his his father steered him towards football and he became he came to really love the sport especially with alabama and In history was made you know. I talked to bear bryant When i was doing a university of washington alabama football game and it was very sobering to go down and do that game. I'd never done anything at tuscaloosa before. And i'd never seen a football team that went from the fifty yard line to the back of the endzone warming up like like alabama had and they just killed the university of washington and i made the comment on the air as i was doing the play by play. You know they could do another season of mash with all the injuries. That washington hats this game but when you think about him and you think about bear bryant was it that made that relationship work well it it worked. I mean and but it also sort of didn't work because he can't being chan sort of fought brian for his roles and eventually was was suspended. Indefinitely from the team had to work his way back on the team so sort of a clash but in the end then and also isn't the rest of his life came came to really genuinely loved their bryant and appreciate what brian was trying to do for him. It was he was trying to be teaching discipline. And and being a pro- Things that can what would have taken and become when he partied a lot stabler the obviously but when the practices came he was a true pro when the games came he was a true professional guy and he got a lot of that from brian and a lot of that stuff slowly began to sink in and eventually did he became. Despite its party major. He became a really really top notch. Professional okay you say in your book about the bear bryant. What he had to say about it. He was very imposing. Stabler said he kind of scared the crap out of me why he was a legend. I don't know if there's an equivalent in college football today he made. You always wanted be your best for him. I always did my best. But i also had to be me and i suppose that conflict is there any correlation between that relationship and the relationship. That bear had with joe namath. Yeah very much. So and great question because namus also ran into some of those issues Wanting to be himself and and wanting to have fun and and they also had a clash and they must learn the same lesson in the name would have the same enduring feelings so they were they were very very similar very similar talents and playing styles and and personality so yeah very much so and he really didn't know how he got the nickname snake. But in your book you reveal how he got that name. Yeah in high school ran back a kickoff. And one of the coaches just sorta slyly quietly used it and on the sideline watching him run and say look like you know. He's like a snake and that was that was that was the origin of it was very very subtle stuck in it. And that's how that's how it's it it came to be and it was It he really Four for most of his life and career he really liked it and obviously when he retired people still call them that he didn't mind but he also really that whole persona. He wanted to put behind them at one point. But yeah that's how he got the nickname and the marriage between the raiders and ken stabler That was a marriage. Kind of made in heaven was not without davis in the way he was a renegade himself. Yeah i always say that. The nfl is better when the raiders are good. Because there's something in the reiter. dna where they just They just they're fun and matter if it's nineteen seventy or twenty sixteen. They're just a fun team to be around. They have their praising. Do some crazy stuff that they're fun and it was that way when you went to oakland it was. It was perfect because he played for the perfect coach and john madden. Who who all john cared about. Was you play hard. When the games comedy. John had his rules and things we wanted to do. But but snake all these other guys off. The personalities were allowed to have those personalities. But there's something that's very different from a lot of football today. So yeah that was a. It was a perfect match. Well and i think the key to it and michael. If i'm wrong about this feel free to correct me. But i think the key to it is exactly what al davis used to always say. Just win baby. Didn't worry more about the style. The only worried about the results on sunday. Yeah and and that would be something that would would go throughout the entire history of the team under al and that would be the same way and and snake and all those other players with all those big personalities had the exact the same sort of feeling and they all were able to prosper under that sort of umbrella. It wasn't that You the they wasn't that they weren't pros they were some of the greatest professional players are sports ever seen is that they knew how to compartmentalize could go on the field and on the field. You were pro. Dame's was over. You have fun. And that was one of the really sort of the emblematic statements of or centerpieces of the nineteen seventies. And that's sport you. There was a time play time of party and how you party you could party anyway. You want to. But as long as you're ready to play and they were always ready to play any always professional in about twenty seconds since we have to break here How long did it take him to get acclimated aid to the nfl and be to the west coast. It took a while it was not instant. He was not Steve found out like a lot of rookies and they come in the everyone's sast everyone's athletic good. You have to be your best. But eventually because he's so good and so talented and smart able to adjust pretty quickly. Michael freeman is with us Renown and of course you can read him with the bleacher report as well. He's the national. Nfl columnist for them as written a number of good books. I also recommend that two minute warning book about the national football league but this one is an outstanding read as well the legendary life of ken. Stabler it's the snake and we'll continue across the country and around the world with you on sports byline the number one gift in this stressful year relaxation from home medics now up to thirty percent off soothing stress for over thirty five years. How medics is. The top home is products brand with gifts for every aching muscle on your list with select items of thirty percent off and free shipping on orders over fifty dollars. Holiday supplies won't last shop now at h. o. Med ics dot com. The perfectly relaxing perfectly giftable gift is at whole medics. Dot com and major retailers everywhere. Fever is a leading symptom of the corona virus. 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Guess the image of the national football league in the seventies when kenney joined the league so when he joined the league in and that era Really was sort of the the last era of just wild crazy wild west football though the roles were different. You could you. Could you know stable with you. Picked up on his head and thrown on his had You could you can mug receivers. It was completely different. Totally physical hardcore game and when he came in That's what it was like. He was able to really after some initial Adjustment and after a really kind of sit on the bench for a couple years. He adapted very quickly. And that's one of the keys to him as a player that he was able to That physicality he really was able to over it and players love the fact that he would get hit so hard and it just get right back up and play. Until i couldn't play anymore and that really endeared him to a lotta teammates how would you characterize and i know the answer since i've been out here. If since the seventies character rise the cast of players that he had on his team and there were a lot of characters and they were They were funny. They were wild It was it resembled kind of the city. They were in the fan base The time period they reflected all those things and there were a ton of really interesting guys and characters and things they did but i would also say Seen about ten and a theme about that team is that they were incredibly personal When the games began and to just party like crazy when the games are over and to never inner they never Crossed over they he they. These guys were able to do almost superhuman partying and superhuman football. And it didn't affect them and it was really pretty amazing thing and it's something that i emphasize a lot in this book and i talked about a lot about this book is just how both things are true and they were able to to really be some of the best professionals you've ever seen in an air really violent air or party all the time and they were still though able to be great throws. Yeah i mentioned about the characters. i'll share a couple of stories. And i know you'll know who i'm talking about here. There was one player who played the first half against the new england patriots. They went into the locker room and he told the told the trainer. My feet are killing me. And he said okay. I'll come back. He comes back to him in the player. It had to write pleats on this same player. Went to the The equipment manager one time and wanted to know why he couldn't have his first name On his jersey and he says well nobody has their first name on the jersey equipment manager said he said well. What about van. egan your book. That are along that line with with snake along with his teammates. Well there's there's all those kinds of stories and One of the things that was really Interesting to me was just. How snake was A kind of what. I was saying before about the stuff he would do. And then once he got on the field it was amazing. He used to keep a carton of cigarettes and liquor and his locker and he'd smoke and drink and then he'd go out to practice and just would zip balls and nothing was hit the ground and it would be the most amazing thing and go back and you smoke cigarettes and drink and things like that just he. He was able to have this kind of laser. Focus that Very few quarterbacks. I've ever had. I mean it was up there with some of the best but he just he just the partying just never effective is pretty remarkable. Yeah one of the legendary stories and You might pick it. Up is the time they were in new york. And i think it might have been the heidi game but don't hold me to that and he had been out until four o'clock in the morning and he was still hung over. Got back to the hotel. Yeah any any any played Horrible and then when he had half time to kind of suit up a little bit and then he went out and just killed it and play great. And that's you know that's how they roll back. Then that's how he rolled back then So they they would always be able to sort of recover and do what needs to be done to win significance From a game standpoint. I most people i would assume would point to the immaculate conception game against the steelers what were some of the other Significant games during the course of his career that he participated in one of the big ones was the hands and The the reception To me is really. it's preposterous. what he did. And it's another one of those things where You can't really have he pops up across. Nfl history is. I guess i'm trying to say at at almost every important juncture the sea of hands the immaculate reception there couple of other ones some of the most important moments and nfl history. He was part of and it wasn't by accident. It was you know. The immaculate reception happened. Because he ran for a long touchdown to put the raiders ahead. You hadn't done that. That would have been over immaculate reception hands. It's a crazy play Against the dolphins and and and one of the more important player. That's all history. There were others and they happen because of him not because of luck or but because he was so skilled and so good. And that's often one reason why i wrote this book. That's sort of forgotten that he is so affected and that skilled. I think i'm right about this too. I'm going on memory michael but he was involved in a game with the san. Diego chargers was not where they were held. Tell everybody that story. He's its final seconds of the game. And he's They're driving to win and he falls. Basically purposely fumbled the ball ford. It's picked up and and and the rate of scoring the game. And i had to call in the book from the broadcaster and it's really amazing. It's a great great call Those are the kinds of things he did. He was all over the place. He's always playing heart. He was always Popping up in places and doing things just didn't imagine but then he could do it. You know as well as i do back during the seventies The afl was relatively new to professional football. At least the merger of the The old nfl and the new afl together and the rivalries because the leagues were diametrically opposite with the afl was wide open football. You know just fling the ball. The nfl was grind out type of thing. But the rivalries that existed in the afl particularly in the afc west where you had the denver broncos you had the kansas city chiefs you had san diego. You had the raiders in everything. What was it that was magical about that period of time and his involvement in it. Well it's exactly kind of what you said they were there were big rivalries Different styles of play Al al that deeds mentality and stable. Sit perfectly into that and and they. The rivalry was genuine They really didn't like each other There was a they the gangs word. Incredibly physical and violent compare. I mean things. Those guys did then compared to now. It's crazy But they were just they they. It was competitive. It was tough those hard and you fought every minute of the game. You never stops. You never gave up. You just kept fighting and you had happened across all these different from the all these different teams that she said because they were all there was a lot of rivalry. So the big thing is just they. They played hard every down all the time from start to finish and they really tried to just beat the hell out of there policy. They just generally didn't like each other. Let's talk about john madden for a second. He was thirty years old when he was named the head. Coach of the oakland raiders. And of course most of his players were probably a little bit older than he was. At that time they used to train up in santa rosa california And i will tell a story about when i was With the raiders and they went to the super bowl against the philadelphia eagles and beat them. I went out with one of the players Late at night. After the curfew and tom Flory's was the coach at that time. We got in about three o'clock in the morning and tom's coming down the stairway and he runs into me and runs into the player. And he says you know you're out after the curfew and he turned the player turn to the coach says. Yeah i know. But ron couldn't sleep and we needed to get a glass of warm milk. That's good well. Let me go back to let me go back to john for a second. How did they interact with him. And why did that work. Young coach Experienced team wild guys and everything he it worked because he let them be themselves and now john had his rules and things you want to do but he also what. Come to really understand that The best way to handle the all the personalities he had was let them have personalities and not try to stifle them and let them be themselves and not only would it be easier to manage them They will play better and of course he was right. Y- leading. Ken stabler the ken. Stabler allow him freedom on the field Allow them to really trust her so he met and recognize that. And all the other guys He's he guys handled differently. 'cause sometimes just like art sell was a huge party guys treated differently There were other guys that were so he was he. Just let them be themselves. And it works really masterfully because All he had to do with every now and it just sort of intervene and guide and keep things a little bit of control but most of the time. These guys kept themselves in the console and they played hard every time there on the field. I might just Since he has passed away lyles szeto. Was that players. So you know what i'm talking about. This and mike curtis was another one on. That team was not the linebacker. Yeah yeah The great story about him. He came to practice one day writing in uniform riding a white horse. Yeah that was them. Imagine if you do that if somebody did that now. I v waiver wire. Yeah we got a couple of minutes left and let me let me ask you. What do you want people to take away from this book. I think the main thing one was Amazingly i'm i'm finding As this book is come out of that sort of always knew. This is one reasons why i wrote the book. I don't think people understand. Just how impactful and good. He was I think they have a general idea. I think they kind of know stable as a player. But they don't know that he was as good as anybody and and could really Rally everyone around him. And also i want people know kind of the full three hundred sixty degree portrait of him. He was definitely a different kind of guy. A party guy married three times but also late in his life found true love again with with a longtime girlfriend. Raise some terrific daughters and became just a different guy In a later part of his life and and didn't want to be the snake. I wanted to be granddad. Wanted to be a father. So i wanna make sure everyone takes away the he. He was a complete human being not just a party or not just a football player but also a great bad and a great guy in about one minute. What effect did he have on the game. Overall over the different ariza football. I would say the biggest thing. Is i think the seventies was the most competitive physical era we've ever seen and he was one of the faces of You don't you cannot write in history without stabler and how he was able to throw with great accuracy toughness hanging the pocket and before his knees went back to run. Pretty well He he was sort of one of the prototypical bombing big arm. Quarterbacks walson had a little bit of athleticism and that style and he was one of the originators of that style and it continues today guys. Sit in the pocket arm though downfield So he was he was able to do a bunch of different things as a quarterback. He was really really really talented guy. Michael thank first of all for writing this book because sitting here in san francisco and having had the opportunity in the pleasure of watching the oakland raider teams during that time and getting to know. Ken stabler this outstanding book. Congratulations on it again. We're gonna make a selection of the month. You're welcome here anytime my friend. Thank you you are such a great pro and it's always good to talk to you hours enjoy so thank you. Michael freeman with us again national. Nfl columnist for the bleacher report. Check out this book. It's called snake. The legendary life of ken stabler. 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Coming up. i always enjoy the interview process and one of the reasons why i do and i've been doing that since i was twelve years old. That's when i got kind of bitten by the bug to interview people. I remember. I was in sixth grade. And i had an opportunity to fill in for somebody who had gotten sick and they asked me if i could interview. I forget who the person was. And i said of course i do it even though i'd never done it before and then The first time in a serious nature. I interviewed. Somebody was john. claude kelly. The olympic ski champion. And i remember. My aunt was with dan. I did it down at a hotel. In washington dc. Which was where. I was born and i remember interviewing him and my aunt said to me afterwards because i was about At that time. I think it was sixteen years old. She asked me. How did you know what to ask him. And i said. I don't know i just wanted to have a conversation with him and i've tried to be that way throughout my entire career. Just have a conversation with people. Because i found that the fans out there while we can appreciate the efforts and the successes and failures of athletes. I think the thing that they can relate to more than anything else is the human aspect of it now. You can't relate to how you ninety five mile. An hour fastball or sink. A three point shot a crucial moment but the human aspect. What got them to where they are today as far as playing sports where they were when they did a sports as well. The background on a lot of these athletes is extremely interesting. I also get a lot of sports books across my desk. And i love reading them. I think sportsbooks give you a depth the stories that maybe you can get when you watch television or maybe not even in an interview as well and i got a book by ed henry and this is a first for us at sports byline usually our guests. Our players coaches managers owners or commissioners. 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Henry joins us on sports byline and this is a first for us because usually our guests. Our players coaches managers owners are commissioners. But ed henry is fox news channel's chief white house correspondent and i thought we class up the show bit. He's written a book about jackie. Robinson called forty-two faith. What motivated you. Add a news guy to write a book about robinson who is one of the icons baseball. It's a great question of a major baseball fan of really got a passion for the game. But i never thought i'd write a book. Certainly not about a dodger. Because i grew up a yankee fan. But i came upon this accidentally really ten years ago it was. I told her two thousand seven. I'm a young reporter in washington. And i'm advice to this big dinner at the belgian ambassador's house and i thought wow i've made it there's gonna be a big dinner it's gonna be fun and fancy pants. All the work strike. One in baseball pilots was when i sat down and i heard that belgium ambassadors say at his home but he was serving pigeon later that There's a fancy term for this and someone as fancy as yourself by kit kit. Like me from the story acquaint. i dunno. it's called squad. Yeah it's actually a delicacy. I i But you know growing up in new york city and long island thought quarter where i can think about what these dirty birds pigeons. Okay strike to is. It's it's basically got these little bones and you pick it out. Straight three was. This is a sprouted small dinner party. A senator was there getting awards and as want to happen in washington rather than just giving us a two or three minutes. Thank you gracious remarks. Senator basically filibuster for twenty minutes or something and so strike three. I turned the woman next to me. And i say it's really been nice. But i'm gonna leave before erc because the world series is on it was the rockies and the red sock. I didn't really have a dog in the fight but said it was taking off the woman said. Are you baseball fan. I said yeah. She said my late father more than a major role in baseball history. But the stories never been told. Now i know you like i would sit back down and i get and what are you talking about. This woman said donna. Shore was named. She said that her father in law was a minister at brooklyn nineteen forty five and there was a knock at the door. One day secretary calls up to the second floor advantage here. He has a problem he needs to see the minister writer. Wipe send up. The ministers doing work at his desk. The band says in a state of despair. I need to think on this. I need to be alone in my thoughts and finishes. I'll keep doing my work man. Paces he sits down he stands up he size. He faces the more. He praised after forty. Five minutes of this demand finally slams his fist down. Says i've got it grabs. His hat starts to walk out And that's the woman told me said what do you mean out with it. You have to tell me after all my patients here and she and she turned to me and said you know that man was. And i said well so. It's nineteen forty five branch rickey because he signed jackie. The first minor league contract with montreal oils and forty percent said yeah branch rickey secretly had second thoughts about whether he can really go through with signing jackie that i contract and he didn't want to tell anyone so you had the secret meeting with the minister and at the end of the he said i've decided to sign actor first contract most difficult decision my life i needed to be in your presence rookie set to the minister. I need to be in god's presence know it was the right thing to do now i said come on. How is this true. And that's a reporter again. This is ten years ago. I have a day job as you said so. I can't focus on my energies on tracking down a baseball story for nineteen forty five but obviously as you also know This is not just a baseball story. It's about civil rights. It's about america. It's about faking god. and so. I started collecting string on this over time and learn that the minister before he died in the early sixties told his wife about it. Obviously he kept the conversation confidential As ministers do but he wanted. You didn't want it to be lost on history. So his wife sat on it until branch rickey guys sixties and wrote a five page essay. Put a church bulletin and by the way the churches plymouth church at brooklyn heights. A very famous church still standing. Today it was a stop on the underground railroad in the eighteen hundreds so there's a lot of symbolism there and it sent me on a journey to say gamma political reporter but i wanna write this story about faith not just baseball Figure out how pivotal was branch. Rickey is decision making this move that integrate baseball the clay changed america. Maybe more importantly how important mistakes the jackie robinson. You know it's interesting. You bring that up. Because when i sports byline is the first national sports. Talk radio network back in nineteen eighty eight. I asked him if he'd be my very first guest and now we weren't friends but he said yes and he flew in from reno or he was appearing and came into the studio. We were only two hours a night. Monday through friday and it was the great willie mays and we talk baseball for an hour. But i want to ask you if you came away with the research that you did on this book and and knowing what you've found out about jackie robinson what did you come away with as far as his feeling about the times and what he was trying to do because the first question i asked. Willie i said willie you were sixteen years old. You grew up in alabama not a particularly openminded time in this country. How hard was it for you to play baseball with a passion you had for the game. I know what his answer was. And i'm just wondering what you sense. It was like for for jackie robinson. During that time. Well it was probably harder because For my research and then for better split based hank there kurt many others who came after jackie. Who said they're not sure they would have been able to withstand pressure and punishment and attacks that he faced. I mean you know. He wasn't just having racial epithets shouted at him. He was having his life literally endanger and so the reason why tie the piece here know. Jackie had is was a methodist and valley consistent still faith in him early age and jackie chan joined a gang though because he's raised by a single mom dad wasn't around at pasadena And remember he joined a gang and he bear may not go and there was a reverend crawl. Downs at that methodist church in pasadena. One of my many stops on the research tour Who said look. You've got this great talent. Four letter man at ucla. What he turned out to be you. You've got so much athlete account. You're gonna waste this unless you get on the right path. And so jackie. Even after starring on the grid iron. Ucla for example on saturday years later would still get out of bed on sunday morning. Go cheech sunday school at the reverend downs. Church the commitment reverend downs that made him so the answer. Your question about how hard it was for. Jackie i think he faced discrimination throughout his entire life. Technically jim crow laws and pasadena but is it very racist town of he faced in one discrimination after another and i think he was primed to deal with the pressure maybe uniquely qualified. And that's what branch rickey did. I founded by research. He said he really sound. Be scouts like by suport on jersey though all about And didn't even really tell them what he was doing. And what the end result was going to be but said he wanted to include negro league stars in his reports As well as some latin players and others and he didn't just have work at. You know kenny kenny. Throw the ball from the whole shortstop first base. He also wanted to know about their fate. You want to know whether or not they had a girlfriend or wife. Because ricky was planning it all out very carefully. Not just this meeting with the minister but finding out if someone like jackie robinson have a support network when the pressure got hot. You know he had rachel there by side initially no. She's still alive and she was one of the most important pieces of this whole story. So i think answered to jackie gleason new pressures but maybe he was uniquely qualified to handle it and brantford. Do that was jackie. Committed to playing baseball when he was offered the opportunity by branch rickey or did it take some persuading. It took persuading the sense. That is simply. Do not believe that it was real. I tap into some of his personal writings and just papers at the library of congress. And what's interesting is jackie You know talks very openly about a train ride from chicago where he got a tap on the shoulder from that scout. clyde suport. who's who told him at an equal each game. Hey robertson come over here. Standing at the rail company get the steven. Tell the stevens hotel Because i wanna talk to you and to actually i you know. I've heard this before. He's been approached by other major league teams and it was all mirage. So jackie in his personal writing said when he when soup fourth gained his trust and finally got on a train from chicago to brooklyn beat with branch rickey and all of forty five for the first time he simply didn't believe it because remember another piece that i that i that to red sox had called jackie and a couple of the players in for a tryout before he met with ricky months before and it was basically a sham try out. They struggled along strawberries along saying oh we really want you to play in the big money. So they didn't. They were just doing it for show they were doing pay for public relations and jackie had that. Try out at fenway. The faint fenway park. There was somebody in the crowd it was believed to be maybe even a achieve objective it was never fully confirmed shouting the n. Word and other things so that they weren't serious about it so cancer question. You know jackie short. It was real. What's branch rickey. Sat him down to fifteen montague street right well near where i'm standing by the way so it was just at an event with jackie robinson. Survive son david robinson ahead of the seventieth anniversary of jackie's first game at ebbets field. Once you know branch he convinced him. This was for real. he didn't eat that much convincing. Finally he realized. Wait a second. This is my date with destiny. We only have about forty seconds before we have to break. How does brooklyn play into this. As far as the story earth skin is one of the last surviving. Listen anderson the anna ninety years old sharpest attack. He was very helpful to be your baseball. And your luck what he to because of all the baseball stories erskine and others tell and when he tells me point line is that this could have happened anywhere but brooklyn because it was such a melting pot remember. A branch rickey had created the farm system. You know had created the minor league as an executive in saint louis long at brooklyn. Let's saint louis was not a melting pot. Tot back in the twenties thirties forties but brooklyn was and is an prowler. Can somebody who's there. You don't have to kick it for me. Says that brooklyn was a critical element to this. And henry is with us. We're talking about is outstanding book. It's called forty two faith. I want to urge everyone to check it out. It'll give you a wonderful look. See at a man. 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Forty two faith because of jackie strong faith in god that sustained him he had raised so by his side she had and still has a strong faith and one of the stories. She likes to tell. Isn't that rookie season of nineteen forty seven. I tell you two stories want it. Forty seven Rachel remembers that every night at karachi. Bevis field jackie would come home to their and he would kneel down and knees and pray to god just like his mother maui talking to pasadena to maybe you know. Reflect on what had happened that day. What kind of had. Maybe some good things that had happened on the field. And maybe get some sustenance for the day ahead accepting story. i'll tell you that west about faith and more about your guts. And that's rachel robinson tag along with her husband eating with walker valley and the owner of the daughters obviously got very controversial when he essentially moved to los angeles. that's a whole nother story. We can talk about. But basically mr valley was riding jackie for saying he had an injury and missing a couple of spring training games. And he's riding jackie riding jackie. It finally rachel jumped in he. Maybe o'malley thought that rachel shrinking violet as an african american woman fifties. She listened and finally said. You know i've had enough of this. You know jackie buses but he does this he does that. All he does is bleed dodger blue. He stands up for his teammates. He stood up to the higher establishment. And she read him the riot. Act and recounted in forty two and one that shows me is. This was obviously kind of not just racial discrimination. But at time with women were not expected to kind of speak up especially not to the white owner of the world famous brooklyn dodgers for rachel just like her husband was fearless. You know another person that i've heard has instrumental in his early days. In major league baseball with the dodgers was peewee. Reese tell me a little bit about him in that story because a lot of people may not know what reese did. Yeah well you know. It's funny because he was serving the navy heading home on a ship out near the end of or two and it came crackling through radio that the dodgers had signed this young african american player to my early contract and one of p rhesus comrades Said hey did you hear. You know their their dodgers active. They signed a black player. And guess what tv. He's the shortstop because at that time the big release. Jackie was short. Of course he ended up beginning with the dodgers first baseman. It really starring. Second date never really got leads. Way became a close friend but two points one is he says you know. He's now launched. Its past he will call that. He was a nervous wreck. The jackie was gonna take his job essentially not just that he that he would lose the post at shortstop but that the folks back home in louisville kentucky would ride him for saying look at black. Took your job. This was the times in america and we felt bad. I talked to larry king the broadcaster. Up real well before we got be. We felt bad. Because they wanna jackie's closest friends but in the forties you know he was nervous that the folks back home in kentucky. We're really gonna ride them. But then of course. There's this kind of legend about rookie season of forty seven. Then that peewee allegedly threw his arm around at jackie. Cincinnati i. There's been a dispute about that. What i it conclusion i come to the book. Is that pee wee who later became the captain of course did show great leadership and stood up for jackie. It did throw his arm around but more likely to happen in nineteen forty eight in boston and and the source after. That is jackie robinson himself. I think extensive research and found magazine. Articles and jackie himself wrote in the fifties where he recounted while. There is a statue as you go. Cincinnati allegedly depicting something. That happened in sixty forty seven. Remember that has noted. Jackie was playing first base. Forty seven dot seven so unlikely that while jackie was being you know written by by fans that he would have left the shortstop position at first base forty seven to put his arm around warlike and forty eight with jackie now a second base peewee came over and consoled him the point is regardless of which year in which city is that peewee ratio. Great guts in standing up as a white man for his teammate. And saying enough is enough. Cut out the abuse. That was a leadership moment. That stuck with jackie and except with a lot of people. That's the story. I had heard as well briefly. Tell me a little bit about how the fans of baseball received. Jackie not just in brooklyn but around the league. Well you know one of the things. That's interesting is that branch rickey. The general manager of the dodgers who talked about at the top sometimes jibe Particularly by african american journalists for only being motivated not by white or black but by greed. That's money saying look all. He wants us to bring more black fans into ricky score. That that was not the case but i do think it was a kind of thing whether it was intended or not. It was a byproduct of jackie coming out to play two things number one. A lot of african american dancer previously been bothered to go to steal or cincinnati and stadiums. All around the country callers give pitcher remembers Told me that he remembers playing a game at cincinnati where there were these special trains In the mid west event it clicked games in south. There were special trains put together for african americans coming from birmingham. Others things were there. Were not majorly taking them. Up to a cincinnati or somewhere else to see yes. Jackie robinson play so many of these owners the opposing teams that had opposed integration of the game ended up making a ton of money on. Jackie robinson's back. Because jackie coming to their stadium whether it be in cincinnati or saint louis a lot of new fans of awkward. But i would be remiss. If i didn't mention that one of the key characters by book is jerry line store. The owner of the chicago chicago bulls who was a kid at flatbush. Eleven years old. It's akis first. Game and recounts everything about ebbets field for me in forty two eight but he also knows that. Look as a white kid growing up in brooklyn. He couldn't care less about jackie skin. He just wanted good player. Who's gonna find me. Put the bombs over the top. And i think that's what fascinates as research. Is that the kids in brooklyn got it before many of the adults. They said we just want somebody who's going to help them. Finally google darn world series white black or whatever and you don't rather than giving into the racial business a lot of kids like jerry at the age of eleven in flatbush. They could care less as long as the back and hit the ball. Who cares these or black you know. It took a lot of the rest of the country. Maybe there are a lot longer to figure that out. But i think some of the kids actually got it before the adults. We only have about two and a half minutes. And i want to talk about something in your book. You say well. I was covering president obama for cnn and march. Two thousand eleven. I had a chance to attend an off. The record cocktail party with him at the white house from the outside it probably appeared is if there was not much love lost between the two of us. That's why the private conversation we had the night In the historic cross hall of the white house about jackie robinson was so remarkable. And you talk about the president. Saying i want you to tell her meaning rachel robinson something for me. Tell her i believe there was a straight line from. Jackie did to me being elected the first african american president. I want you to tell her that you know when i read that. I got goosebumps. Yeah it was moving. Its rare for any president to say to return. Hey what's your sent a message to someone particularly because we had some back and forth When i was covering just like you know white house correspondent will do This wasn't a buddy buddy thing. It was just him saying look. i want. you said this message. It reminded me of the gravity. Of jackie robinson's legacy. And i think that is the key it transcends baseball. It transcends sports. It's not just a civil rights story. It's not just a soaring that i talked about. It's not just a baseball story. This is a man who opened the door for bill. Also the nba. Who by the way. Bill russell is one of the pallbearers. At jackie's nineteen seventy two or that their reason he expanded it far beyond just baseball all the way into politics and our government because there would be a barack obama without jackie robinson and so he opened the door. The door might have been cracked open by branch. Rickey packing jackie robinson. Keep that door down in the minute. We have left. What do you want people to take away from this book and that there were two men who were of rhetoric. Jackie robinson who were a gift for generations. Different races came from different parts of the country. I talked about pasadena Where jackie came of age. Ricky came up on a farm in ohio along kentucky border so different generations different regions different races but they were bound together by baseball and a strong faith in god. If you put those two together there's about that's about as american as if you are you happy with the way the book came out. I love it. The cover of the books looks fantastic. We've got the forty two their jackie reaching for a ball. As if he's reaching for heaven's and that's what forty two faith is all about. And i just can't wait to your listeners. Get a chance to put their hands on it. Because i. I'm very proud of it and i really appreciate. The time was spent. Because i think your question very insightful. And i'm looking forward actually coming in and sit down with the and having a longer conversation i was just gonna to tell you i have so many more questions of you and i would enjoy a conversation in person very very much. You're welcome here anytime. So i look forward to you reaching out and let me know what your schedule is. Thank you ed. Ed henry with us again It is not a coach. Not a player not a manager. Not a commissioner is actually with fox news channel these the chief white house correspondent and check out this book. It's one of the great books on baseball on sports. And it's called forty two faith. 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America's favorite sports miss and it was written by sheldon hirsch who was a pediatric kidney specialists. But also a self-professed sports geek showing. How did you get your geek them. How did that come about well. you know. I was born to a man who was a sports teak And he was a calculus professor statistician. So i grew up with flight. Rule and reading box scores every day and play. Strata matic And and never never stopped. I can imagine you probably in discussions with your friends about sports. Probably drive them crazy. Do you not I think that's been set I mentioned my dad. My mom was a debate coach. So i so i got that part of it too. I grew up in a house. I'd only would sports numbers but we're people. People are courage to speak their mind and and examining physicians that other people set forth. And you know learn. Learn how to make you wrote good arguments yourself so that all fit together. Explain to me sports. Contrarian well i- contrarian i take a little bit of a negative connotation i would prefer To pull it and open-mindedness go. And what i call a healthy skepticism. Now you mentioned that of the frolics which is true and one of the things that you earn in science and in medicine is a healthy skepticism. And what that means is that when People even in science and medicine tell you something instead of just saying yes. That must be so you ask. What's the evidence and you have your mind open to the possibility that there may be other evidence or that the evidence that's given isn't quite what it same thing so if you approach things with a healthy skepticism and in life and in sports you may very well find that. There are lots of things that you're told about. That may not hold up to good examination and so i did that with my lifetime sports. I've been a fan since nineteen sixty two in fact The Make it home i. My earliest memory is willing covey hitting a line. Drive with two outs in the ninth inning of game. Seven the san francisco and yankees world series. Which for new york fan. Fortunately went right bobby. Richardson but at any rate If you if you examine sports in that matter you you'll you'll find things that don't ring right and that's what form bespoke one of the things i appreciated about the book is that we share a common philosophy. And i think you'll agree with this sheldon. I believe that two and two is four. But i also believe you can get to three and one is four. One three is four. And i don't think all people take a look at the different angles. I felt that this is what you were trying to do with the book. I think i i appreciate that. And i think that's a fair assessment. We tend to hold to what. I'll call dogmas For example in in basketball is one good example of this It's said that russell westbrook can't win title. 'cause you can't win without without a pass i guard or that. You can't win without a superstar where that you can't win without three point shooting if you can't do this you can't do that but i think the world and sports also more complicated than that and there are all sorts of different ways to to get to the same result and i hope that comes across in the book. Do you think sheldon and most people when it comes to an argument about anything. But we're talking sports here that they look at what they see and not the nuances of an issue. I think that's true. Haven't in part. I think it depends. How interested you are if you have if you have a superficial interests. That's as far as you want to go. But if you're really interested in something. I you really wanna know. What's true about it. what's what's not true about it. What the real explanations are what the new ends are. Wyatt team won't wia team loss What are the different ways to get. Four and i think that the whole experience much more rewarding much more interesting than just who wanted loss so i i would definitely agree with that one of the things. Also i liked is that you looked at some subject as i don't think most people would Would look at and let me. Just get into some of these. Give us your reasoning and your thinking on on a couple of these. Does the hot hand which we hear so often exist in sports. But that's a really interesting topic because everyone who has ever an. I think the main exam basketball but anyone who's ever played basketball absolutely knows for certain that there's a such thing as a hot against that for example if you hit two or three or four shots in a row phrases you're in the zone and the next shot is much more likely to go win. Then they based on your usual shooting percentage. Well the interesting thing about this. Is that a lot of very smart people. Talking about nobel prize winning types of people have studied this mathematically and found out that it actually is not the case so here you have on the one hand something off sentient basketball players feel in their bones and on the other hand. Some smart people studied academically. And say when exist so one of the things that i did to just didn't make sense to me as i looked at very carefully. Some of the best of us that have been purportedly should show that a hockey and doesn't exist. And i got the flawed and i go through that in the book Ending up with the suggestion that These really smart accurate. Additions have not disproven hockey and that it may very well be that all the rest of us are right in all right. You also talk about a couple of basketball issues that i really was fascinated about you know as well as i do. People say so. And so is the greatest of all time but the game is played in different errors. Different rules different players in one of the ones who address was would wilt chamberlain dominate in the nba. Today what did you come up with well. There's a very interesting kind of takata me. About athletes like wilt. And that is this. We all know that. The bulk of athletes in any sport. The second percent for the ninth. Get better over time. Today's athletes are buying large better than the one fifty or sixty years ago. The other hand if you take the very few in the twenty first century who were two three four standard deviations beyond the me who stood well out at the very edge of the curve. It's almost as if they reached the wall of human ability that cynthia logically can't be surpassed and i think we'll was one of those people and theorem not really just speculate usually when we compare athletes or teams over different periods where. We're just speculating. But we are checking. Data will trample. We know how fast they ran the hundred yard dash. We know he brought. How high jets. We know how much he bench pressed. We know how fast he ran. The four forty we know is hiding wake and i can tell you certainty that there is no player in the nba who matches wiltz combination of size strength and document the speed and leaping ability. And it's probably not going to happen in the future either. If anyone you know people make equal wilkes people may someday press wills by a Hair or a very small amount. But it's going but we'll basically reached the wall of humanity. That's what i like about the book and about your explanation on this that you look at the totality and. I really think that that's how issues like this and debates like this should be looked at the other one on basketball. And it's one that i think has a lot of people still talking about and probably will in years to come. Comparing the ninety six chicago bulls to the two thousand sixteen warriors. Tell me about that one. Well of course You know as a steph curry. And the warriors scott all this publicity very justly cell in my mind guys like charles barkley and kenny smith and scotty pippin and michael jordan you know went into this old remember when we were men at dinosaurs ruled the earth and and the warriors have won a gain from the bulls and and that's just crazy Not saying the word is beating the bull that a seven game series. Because only the bulls had michael jordan. And that's a pretty big advantage. But one of the things. They talked about In specifically disrespecting trickery is the Inability players and check now. Barkley made a big point of that bout that the robertson made a big point about that. Oscar made it sound like every step. He took on the court three guys. They're hugging him and it was legal. And actually it's true. Obviously the and check rule Players were no longer allowed to hand check in the interim between the the two teams. We're talking about And that certainly helps offensive players today. Like curry on the other hand. All those guys who talked about that acted like that's the only change that happened in the game. Also last twenty years well other changes at the game over the last twenty years changes that tender curve in the warriors and jordan and the bulls and in comparison. And i'll mention just two of them. One is that teams allowed to now so and teams now have much more sophisticated defenses so they overlook the strong side when curry has the ball out on the winning Say at the three point line. He's facing three players. The guy guarding him and two guys shifted over in back them. That wasn't legal and the stay. When jordan got by his one player there was a lot more open space than doesn't face Now the point is the globalization of the game. There are now a hundred or more foreign players in the game today than they were even back in jordan's day and as we single one of them has replaced a lesser player. Who would have been on the court. If it weren't for the globalization the game so curious facing better players and under different rules and you'd have to keep that in mind when you compare the warrior to the bulls. Even from twenty years ago we have a couple of minutes left and they one chapter of the book that i was interested in was the mythology of mohammed ali. What is it that people don't know about him. Well i think it's not so much what they don't know but as what they forget or choose not per remember. And that is that in the debt paid between the sixties and seventies. He had some really malevolent without him and the way he treated Joe frazier to a lesser extent. George foreman ernie terrell. I mean it was really cool Floyd patterson he basically Kept him around the beat him up for his own personal Reasons and and the way the things he said about. Joe frazier his his radical ideological Ideology which was essentially racist. I mean there was much to dislike about homily in the nineteen sixties and since then and the eulogies which of course they're always positive we kind of Paint him as a more monolithic state. Now to be fair Ali was a young man and he evolved and by any question he became a much more gracious inclusive and respectable figure and in fact became a hero of mine just like Basically the whole world. And i think that you will status as a great man and one of the world's great figures with fully deserved. But i think he gets there without whitewashing the these sort at parts of him. And that's part that we think we have kind of white washed. We have about a minute left. What would you like people to take away from this book sheldon. Mostly i that. I hope it's a really fun and interesting read and also that it will make you think about things. perhaps ways that you haven't thought about before As you know. I run through a you know scores of topics in the three major sports especially baseball basketball and i'd like to think every single one presents an interesting question that a reader might wonder about and enjoy reading about and i present arguments in some fashion or other. That may be different than what you thought. I don't of course the expectation that readers will agree with everything that i say or even most but i say but what i hope is that everything will be challenging and interesting and that you'll flow through the pages of this book be glad you read it and give it to a friend. I agree with you. Are you happy with the way the book came out sheldon. I'm very. I'm very happy And i'm happy that you have to talk to me about my pleasure. Because as i said i like books that make you think in. This book certainly does that. I know that the readers will get a lot out of it. So i hope they'll check it out sheldon thank you and come back and join us again on sports byline. 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It's interesting you say that having not read the article because the reason the uk judge gave for pausing this particular extradition is because he's concerned that mr assange will commit suicide if extradited to the united states. He does not trust the united states. I mean actually commit suicide or get suicide well. These things could be interpreted between the lines. I think i thought there was supposed to be a rule in the uk that said they're not allowed to extradite somebody to a place where they could possibly face the death penalty. They can't extradite somebody who they expect to face the death penalty but there have been times for example when in order to get an extradition. The united states has has has has had to agree not to execute the person in question interesting. How that happened. I don't know that assange was ever. Was there ever any trees f- penalty. He couldn't be facing trees and he's not even an american. You can't commit treason against a country. The your country. That's what you would think if he's to twenty twenty or twenty twenty one now if he's not trees and he's charged with aiding in some kind of computer crime helping break password so if he's not even an american how is an extradition. Even possible. shouldn't be well. You can extradite anybody anywhere and you know if well let's let's put it in in a in a different context. If he had broken into era feed. Help somebody break password. So that that person could you know could defraud little old ladies home or something do they. Have i guess her. Do you know then there would be no question that he would be extraditable for that okay because it was connected to a crime in the united states the things the thing that makes us different. Is that the thing that it was connected to. The united states wasn't crime. It was somebody doing their actual duty. Right which is drew ignore the low and allies wrong and wikileaks of course popular website that in my opinion doing journalism where the journalists weren't and that's something. I mean your average journalist. I think we'll certainly know that if they assist somebody in breaking into a computer to get a to get a that doesn't belong to them to To get a piece of information and they get caught it that they're going to be some trouble right right so this article. This is from the bbc dot com. And we have a couple of different news articles just to make sure that we get the gist of what this is about. This goes on to say wikileaks. Founder julian assange cannot be extradited to the united states. According linden has ruled. The judge blocked the request because of concerns over. Mr assange is mental health and risk of suicide in the us at introductory pass passage. At least i know frequently. The small print takes away with the brig print gives but that doesn't sound like a temporary. Stay the word blocked. Doesn't sound like paused me right so now of course he could be reversed by somebody else. That's always a possibility in the court system. It seems to me and we'll go on and see what the article. But if memory serves there is some sort of a a bit. Where like they're looking for some sort of assurance from the united states. That's he okay so that would be a temporary stay. Then if that if they're if they have demand we'll we'll see how it pans out between these two things. Mr assange who is wanted over the publication of thousands of classified documents in two thousand ten and twenty eleven says. The case is politically motivated expressing disappointment at the ruling. The us justice department noted that it's legal arguments. Had prevailed see. I think he would be better off extradited and the reason i think that is because i don't think an american jury would convict him. you don't think he'd get epstein might because that's i'm with you on sort of reading between the lines here when the judge says he's concerned about mr santa's mental health and risk of suicide in the us. You know it doesn't. I don't know if that's a direct quote from the judge but if it is that makes me think he's like first of all. Mr assange is in bad mental health. Second of all. I'm worried about the risk of suicide in the us. Now whether or not that's he's saying i'm worried about mr assange is risk of committing suicide or i'm worried about the potential of quote suicide unquote in the us. A whole different story. It's hard to say because he would have access to information from the jail that of course we do not. It's the position of the us that the leaks broke. The law and endangered lives while we are extremely disappointed in the court's ultimate action or ultimate decision. We are gratified that. The united states prevailed in every point of law raise the justice department said the us authorities have fourteen days in which to lodge an appeal and are expected. So it's an appeal if it's being appealed the decision. Yeah mr assange will now be taken back to belmarsh prison. Where he's being held in a full application for his bail will be made on wednesday. Maybe can go so he may actually get out. That would be the biggest. The biggest good sign. Is you know if he was actually walking the street again. Somewhere i would. I think that if he does hit the street again they are unlikely to rearrest him and extradite him really even in great britain. Yeah i would be. I would be surprised just because blitz. they don't want to close that can of worms and then open it again and people will be irate. It's interesting that they would be putting him out on bail because they live for it so you whether or not. It's granted as a whole different story. Yeah i thought that they had no reason to hold him with the exception of this extradition. Oh so well it. Sometimes they hold you pending the state's appeal depending on and british law of course is going to be different than ours during an appeal. They'll let him out on bail whereas prior to that they wouldn't yeah well during the other side's appeal they. They're more likely to let him out of out on bail than on. That's what i'm saying. His appeal of. He's not gonna feel this. This was a position. Yeah well his lawyer. Ed fitzgerald told the court. There would be evidence to show mr assange. Would not abscond okay. So apparently the lawyers giving the court assurances that he's not gonna fly. Yeah but that also indicates that this the court is not convinced that their business with mr assange concluded And it sounds like that would be worried about being abducted india just whacking may. Maybe the uk government won't take him again because again remember. He was He was wanted by the uk government. Because of the alleged charges out of sweden ultimately were ended up being dropped but he still had to sit in a jail cell for a year because he missed court date right because he ran from capture their six zero three two eight three six one six zero. Do you think this is good. News for mr assange. I'd prefer to see him. Pardon we've got more free talk live coming up. Want to accept bitcoin at your online store. There's a good chance you already have. 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Berates her that's okay. That was definitely not a female than you did not ruled that while. Us prosecutors had met the tests for mr assange to be extradited for trial. The us was incapable of preventing him from attempting to take his own life. So maybe oh. Wow what happened to name Stein right wasn't he didn't kill himself. I got the distinct vibe that that again reading between the lines are not saying that. Hey we know epstein got epstein and so that's why we're not sending us i. That's nonsense. I don't think epstein didn't get epstein is the thing sitting on the beach in tel aviv epstein got extracted. I think outlining evidence of his self harm and suicidal thoughts. She said the overall impression is of depressed and sometimes despairing man fearful for his future. How could that be. Isn't that a strange thing. Like what tipped you off einstein. What was your first clue. So so you're saying his rational. She went on to say that. I am satisfied that the procedures described the. Us will not prevent mr assange from finding a way to commit suicide. And for this reason. I have decided. Extradition would be oppressive by reason of mental harm. And i order his discharge. Okay oh so you. She ordered his discharge. So why is he having to bail out if she's his discharge. I don't know. I mean i could take that out of context and self-serve gross things. I mean maybe she's doing medical tests. Oh maybe what do you mean by that medical tests on what well. Maybe there's some discharge that needs to be tested. Maybe you got something from pamela. Anderson ran getting a side of fries with that order. Distract to you mix metaphors. Oh i'm sure i have have. You met me. They freedom price. Mr assange who were a blue suit and a green face mask in the doc. I don't know what that has to do with this story closed. His eyes as the judge read out her ruling on monday. His fiancee stella morris with whom he has two young sons wept. How do you do that. When did that happen way. He went from pamela anderson to this lawyer stella and had two kids he did he get knocked up like twice in like the lawyering room. Say how young sons are. It's that's true but it doesn't locked up for like seven years in the ecuadorian embassy. Wasn't he yeah. Oh that's true. She could have represented him like way back. When little bit of conjugal visitation gonna. it's possible. That's that's where panel. Anderson was visiting him but the true he probably had his His fiancee visit him. As i heard. They conjugated anyway. Stella said that or still apparently wept and was comforted by wikileaks. editor-in-chief. Kristen rafts. Knin as yourself christians in jail. It's a girl. Kristen speaking outside the court after the ruling she called on the. Us president to quote. And this now. Mr president tear down these prison while she said let our little boys have their father free. Julian free the press and free us all well. Well i mean the thing is i mean. Trump wouldn't do that because he thought it was the right thing but if he thought it would irritate somebody. He didn't like he might can see him doing that to troll somebody. It says in english law this would be enough or it would be enough for him to be charged with a crime and so the route was opened for business on to face trial for the same in the united states so that they're just saying that britain and the united states sort of see eye to eye on whether or not what the us is accusing him is a crime but british law also requires the judge to consider. Mr assange is health and it's the effect of as possible detention in near solitary confinement in a supermax prison that proved decisive. The us in the judge's conclusion can't stop a mentally unwell man taking his own in those conditions. they're basically saying our prisons are better than yours. She made a reference to I think it was hms belmarsh which is where he was saying when he went in. So maybe she's saying. Our prisons drove him crazy. No she's saying that she believes that belmarsh was able to keep him from killing himself but the us cannot keep him from killing himself so therefore us prisons are not as good because making you suffer longer as is a great kindness. Let's this isn't really I really but it's a. It's the best ruling that we could hope for. At the moment the moment when the us does appeal it'll have to convince more senior judges otherwise and by otherwise they mean that the us prisons don't suck and they would be able to prevent him from committing suicide We kind of covered what julian assange might face. But this says a possible penalty of up to one hundred and seventy five years in jail while not death let death. he faces an eighteen. Count indictment accusing him of conspiring to hack into the us military databases acquiring sensitive secret information relating to afghanistan and iraq wars which was then published on the wikileaks website information. Interestingly enough about war crimes committed by u. s. officials. So if a normal person was doing this that would be what intimidating. A witness tampering with evidence. I try and read this article because the very next says he says the information exposed abuses by the us military. But he didn't hack through that he just agreed to help chelsea manning get into it well and do we know that in the turnovers some hash to somebody and got them to break a password or i thought he was responsible for the publishing of the information. He was helping get into the files. Six three two eight three six one six hundred more coming up so when we brought him home. We didn't realize that bear. The rescue dog was actually said he had very flaky. 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It's his it's his captors and might have a problem well so let's assume for a moment that mr assange is granted bail and he's in england so that is where he is. He gets out of this prison and what happens. He walks right into another prison. Because this from nbc news faced with mounting cases. England announces new nationwide lockdown. Yes they have british prime minister. Boris johnson i call him during johnson but whatever boring johnson said trips outside will be allowed only for essential shopping exercise covid nineteen medical help escaping domestic abuse only covert nineteen medical health. If you're dying cancer you gotta stay in the house and and work for those who can't work from home. Apparently british prime minister boring. Johnson said monday These lockdowns are gonna go ahead and go forth including the most stringent level of restrictions since the start of the pandemic wow in order to slow down the spiral in new cases of covid nineteen on the same day the u. k. Started the rollout of astrazeneca's vaccine but almost one out of every two hundred people who gets the disease. I don't get why the uk is getting the after zeneca and like the us is getting the pfizer. European country company. Okay but like i mean. Well they've got the the pay. The politicians off. The each chemical drug company is expected to pay off their own. politics is. it's okay everything. Yeah yeah it's tearing territorial because that's that's what they that's how it works. is each gang. Each drug gang has a bunch of soldiers that guard their turf right against other gangs from other places. I was just so you have to pay off your gang because we're all about all about choice here most of us you know who have the freedom mindset anyway Welcome more choice so it occurs to me that there might be somebody who's very vaccine that wants to the vaccine that wants to get to take somebody out there other lack the whole set right exactly. Yeah they want to get the little glass with the astrazeneca logo on it or the with pfizer logo. Send me as if he sends me as address. If you're listening if you're that guy send me your address. I'll send you mind but it occurs to me that somebody in the pfizer territory might want the astrazeneca vaccine and somebody in the astrazeneca territory might want the pfizer vaccine for whatever reason. Tough well The measures are similar to the lockdown imposed last march and include asking the public to stay home and leave asking asking that should be. The news always uses that term when it's talking about government mandates uses the term asking which is funny because you know if if normal person pulls out a gun and says i'll kill you if you don't do what you're told they call it like kidnapping. Well it reminds me of the balancers. The bouncers in the bars right. Like if you start causing a ruckus in being a drunken ass the bouncers will come up to you and be like sir. We're going to have to ask you to leave. we don't have to will. They say they're gonna have to going to have to is one of my favorite phrases. He gonna have to ask you to leave now but eventually we're required to this is in our contract trip outside. We'll be allowed for only essential shopping. Exercise cove nineteen testing medical help escaping domestic abuse and worked for those who can't work from home but they're all being domestically abused if they're being locked up in their houses without committing a grime him into that. If you tuned into our episode last night we covered the fifteen indicators that you are in an abusive relationship with your government and how many of them did this. Government pass apply to government just as a deal of existence if it's not an abusive relationship it's not a government because by definition. I think a government doesn't takes takes its money by force. A government that exists equals an abusive relationship goes on to say. Primary secondary schools and colleges will also have to switch to remote learning starting tuesday. That's tomorrow people who don't live together are not allowed to mix but support and childcare bubbles are still allowed. I'm so sick of the bubbles bubbles and even heard about the bubble. That's where in new hampshire and we haven't really gotten a lot of this bubble propaganda from the government gang here ganda. Yeah it's going on and a lot of places and it's all about restricting the number of people that you can associate with legally in fact there was a story gave was. Are you allowed to get some bubble. But i doubt it in your personal sphere. Do you remember some time ago. Cingular wireless had this thing. Where like you could have people in your circle. Yes yep right. That's the same thing as what they're describing of these bubbles. Nobody There's a circle will then. You're bubbles really small. You don't have a circle. Sorry you don't get to hang out with anybody. I'm bubble free in many of these are very restrictive Some places have put these in place for folks in only their so called. Bubble includes just our household. That's it yeah. And that. I mean that's the end of it. There's a story from not shooting politicians over this. I don't think violence is the answer but Disclosed dot. Tv had a video here. I didn't say it was the answer to seem surprising that they're not disclosed on. Tv had video of canadian police storming a gathering of six people after a neighbor ratted them out video. This halfway how many how many equals a storm so there were six people gathered together. Did they storm this gathering with more than six people tell you how many looked like you couldn't really tell because most of them didn't make into the reservoir and it looked like there was a confluence of swine four inside that residents. I can see what looks like at least four cops outside trying to pull literally trying to pull the man out the door and where was. This is in canada where they have. These very strict bubbles that they are forcing people obey. I mean the first time. I remember hearing about anything resembling a bubble was back in the mid to late. Eighty s. maybe early ninety where people started talking about their personal space bubble. Like i don't know. I've been around a guy. I actually had a conversation with. He was using one of my bands and he would violate your personal space bubble. Ten turns out he just had bad is so he couldn't really tell how close he was a guy and so when i talked to him he's like oh sorry did i got that is or whatever and he actually went and had the surgery and then it got better good so he wasn't just using that as an excuse to cop. I didn't know. I mean you would get like really close to your face and like spit on. Yeah as he's talking. 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Where a man was this like a biden thing where he was like hugging little kids. Who didn't want to be hugged. Nope not at all. I didn't sniff kit. He's sniff some how some touches them grabs their bubis. Green does hurt their lack of no. This was These were adults who were consenting to being hugged. The man was a serial hugger he did give multiple hugs out Two consenting parties and then police swooped in and put him under arrest. We'll have none of that yet. They said you up. You're not sir. You're not these people you know the not in your bubble they're in trouble now Those been bursted. So i don't know what the charges disposable i presume it's the equivalent of You know breaking governors orders. Whatever they would charged with here in the us. That's what's happened. You violated the king. The king said no in. Us ahead and did the thing that the king said. No now you will go into the cage. It's bad very bad while that's it really happened. Now we live in a i mean. The world is really bizarre. In some ways i feel like when i moved to new hampshire i passed through Into a different dimension in other world was a certain way and then shortly after i got here here comes the kovic and all of a sudden. We're in this dystopia and medical hellscape nightmares but Going on with this article from nbc news talking about the new and improved lockdown being imposed on the entirety of england. That's right national lockdown extreme. Because this is what happens when you don't have any guns in you can't fight back. Well even the police in england don't carry gun so they do now or do they. Yes it actually. It's really interesting but after they outlawed guns there for the citizens crime started getting worse and worse and worse the cops at the start carrying. I thought they were going around yelling. Halt earl holt again. Did but back in the day they would actually if they had to make an make an arrest. Somebody was dangerous. Add to gather up like a little pile posse of of armed. Brits of course they couldn't find any. We'll speaking in a late night. Television televised address boring. Johnson that boris johnson. For the rest of you warned that the weeks ahead will be the hardest yet but he believes the country is entering the last phase of the struggle. Sure they said every two weeks since march does that mean they're gonna stop resisting and just die or they just start killing people. Yup it's over now every money. Well i mean that's the end game the this i don't i don't see how this is going to end in anything but a massive. I feel your frustration. He goes on to say. I know how tough this is. And i know how frustrated you are now we check to any of this stuff but now more than ever. He says we must pull together. Yeah oh why. Don't we lock you up for a while and see how you feel about pulling together after that for that. I'd like to see any of these. Politicians be deemed non essential. Because that is exactly what they are hoist with their own petard as it were johnson to be reddish. Indeed boring johnson said people should follow the new rules which will become law in the early hours of wednesday morning starting immediately. That makes no sense. So they're going to institute this thing on tuesday. The new rules are going to become law in the early hours of wednesday but yet it starts immediately government. I mean is it supposed to make sense. It isn't the measures announced. Apply only to england. Where johnson sets policy with scotland northern ireland and wales the other countries in the uk setting their own rules. Yeah i mean they can't make it make sense is the thing because if they did that then people would know that they were having their lives taken from them and they would have only one rational reaction which is the fight for their lives early on monday. Scotland announced a full legally enforced lockdown with people ordered to stay at home for january except for central purposes. It's no exaggeration to say that. I am more concerned about the situation that we face now than i have been at any time since march scottish first minister nikola. What a coincidence. So what you're saying is none of your government mandates lockdowns or any of that actually had any kind of effect to the point where they're now having to do. We must be locked down harder. It had an effect. They didn't get second waves in places where they didn't do Lockdown right nothing. Governments have done has had any effect has had any positive effect. Thank you it's all had effects you are. They're not ineffective there just evil. It's the same thing as when you're going to public schools and they tell you that the government to protect you and the government designed to help you and it turns out nope none of those things are true and so when it comes to the finding that it turns out that all those teachers worked for the government and now as far as these lockdowns in masks and all this stuff are concerned go. Oh this is to help you and this is to stop. The spread of this is to contain the spread of cases and none of it has had any positive effect while they just need to do it twice as hard so now. We must lockdown harder lockdown. Three lockdown hardest. Even more hard than we locked down. Before extreme lockdown we did lockdowns before and more people died. But this time we're going to lock down even harder and it will somehow have the opposite effect in three d locked in stereo where available but what do they call it. When all the the old people who are in the original lockdowns. Get like a resurgence at the end of their career. You know what. I mean like the they had the movie with stallone and van damme. And you know the the something. Like the expendable. They'll have the expandable lockdown and they'll get all the people. I remember when the first lock down kicked in and we were still able to go to the drive through it. Well the thing is. I mean if you're not a member of the club year expendable already through by the way it's also getting worse than other places including san francisco. Yeah tell us more just twentieth out. San francisco can get worse. A so-called stay at home order which was supposed to be lifted as of january. Seventh has now been extended indefinitely. What i'm sorry. Say that again at home. Order was supposed to expire this week on thursday. It is now extended indefinitely now. There is no date of expiration for the so-called ideas this when these lockdowns first fricken started that it wasn't gonna end I said they're just gonna keep. We saw it before with the tsa and the non patriotic act also known as the patriot act where they the at first it was. Well we're going to have this thing for a couple of weeks. Then it was a of months then it was okay. We're gonna extended for six months. No we're gonna extend it for another year then suddenly and finally they said no. We're gonna just have this thing in perpetuity that's right. Oh and when they're done with us they wanna do it again for global warming. We talked about that Last week i think. I brought that one up where they've introduced the idea that somehow lockdowns in asking can assist with global warming. I don't know. I think that maybe what's needed. Maybe the sun's burning too hot and we need to make some sacrifices. Maybe we should throw some politicians into volcanoes. I mean if we could build a catapult to launch them into the sun that would be good. I could maybe get on board with a little gofundme for that particular adventure. 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That more are on the way. Following the years holiday. Many teachers stayed home or worked outside their schools in the cold yesterday and planned to continue teaching online until buildings are safer them and their students so last Entry school music teacher. Quentin washington is one of them. They're asking us to step into buildings. Run pair ill-equipped mandates and it's just not fair to our students is not fair to our school communities members. Say the fear of losing. Their jobs is real and many teachers in chicago. Public schools are the solar primary income earners in their households but they say the fear of the coronavirus further students in families is greater. I'm lily bulky. Teacher's union says this is not a strike members plan to continue teaching virtually and communicate with their students families and colleagues one thirty alderman on the chicago. City council signed a letter amplifying these safety and equity concerns many conservative. us house republicans defended president donald trump in the aftermath of his phone. Call demanding george's secretary of state. Brad rafts burger. Find the votes needed for him to win the elections in his state. Cnn reports at the same time. Democrats drafted a resolution seeking to censure trump over the matter the network notes that after house minority leader. Kevin mccarthy downplayed trump's stunning demand other republicans rushed to his defense some refuse to take issue with the president's actions and as president elect joe biden considers his pick for labor unions and colorado and across the. Us are eager to see the trump administration in the rear view mirror. Dan mauer with the communications workers of america says president. Donald trump's national labor relations board used every tool at its disposal to stop workers from organizing by making it easier for companies to delay elections and some cases taking workers right to organize away altogether. That's why it's all important that president-elect pine take a lot of steps to reverse those trends because otherwise workers are gonna continue to lose power and that means losing wages. Losing benefits biden has committed to passing the protecting the right to organize act along with measures to incentivize workers classified as independent contractors to gain union protections. But bauer says tuesday's runoff election in georgia. Which will determine control of the. Us senate is critical because the new administration will not be able to reverse all trump's policies through executive orders. I'm eric glass. This is pms. The state of north dakota has loan dealt with a shortage of access to mental health care in rural areas. But efforts are ramping up. Now to make sure treatment is available in those hard to reach places the university of north dakota and sanford health or carving out a multi phase project it's designed to provide more resources at a time and more people are feeling stress because of the pandemic andrew mclean chairs the psychiatry department at the u. n. d. medical school says early efforts included a web page with helpful tips. Along with phone assessments. He says future phases could involve a more robust way of ensuring that patients can visit with a provider virtually potentially closing gaps in some areas as you go into the western part of the state. And you know whether it's mental health providers or whether it's addiction counselors There's a particular issue in terms of finding providers there but mclean warns there are still a lot of unknowns surrounding the next phases. He says that includes whether insurance companies would still allow exemptions for virtual visits as they are right now during the crisis. I'm mike mohan. North dakota's mental healthcare needs became more pronounced when the state saw eight fifty seven percent increase in suicides between nineteen ninety nine and thousand sixteen which topped the nation and as new evidence. That many georgia families are coping with severe hardships during this pandemic georgia. Kids count manager. rebecca rice. Says it's clear that too many families are having trouble meeting basic needs for their kids. Wherever really saying this is a pencil trauma for an entire generation of children and that can have lifelong effects. And i think we're gonna need but physical and emotional and mental support from this generation of children for a long time the report. We've been spotlighting from the any. Casey foundation find twenty percent of georgia. Households with children are concerned about making their rent or mortgage payments. Meantime klay wire stove with the group. Kansas action for children says the stresses on families are system wide among families with children. Fifteen percent of them are food and cure. Fifteen percents of them are wondering if they will have a place to live and finally our suzanne potter tells us groups that fight for healthier oceans are vowing to fight on. After president trump vetoed a bill to ban an outdated type of fishing net it targeted swordfish but ends up killing many others species. The bipartisan drift net modernisation and bycatch reduction act would have ended the use of mile-long large mesh drift gillnets within five years. Ben antic nap with oh. Cnn says the nets are nearly invisible and produce a huge unintended bycatch coast of california they migratory hotspot for whales turtles and dolphins. They can't see these walls of us suffocate drown. I'm suzanne potter. 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And it's been that way for decades and you imagine being that guy your job just like the cable company here can tell if you're paying your bill. The thing is there. the government is the cable. Well the government is all live television. Yes you can't watch television without their permission. Which is really scary. Well not just permission. But they provide it So this is free. Talk live in the studio tonight. It's myself captain and nobody and you can call three two eight three six one six zero. If you'd like to join us we've been well. We've been traveling internationally on the show so far. Tonight we've been talking about england so far we talked a little bit about the rest of the uk including scotland and ireland. But we're going to move on to china. And hey nobody you might know the answer to this one. How come there weren't any lockdowns and mask mandates. In china there were. They welded people into the building. Okay but this is a joke. So what's the punchline. To the joke after after they welded people into the buildings. How come they were no mask. Mandates lockdowns in china. Because they're already a communist country. Okay cute cute. China seems or at least itself is claiming success that has somehow defeated covid nineteen. Well i mean they more or less did actually because at some point months ago the government pretty much announced. Yeah we're not gonna worry about this anymore and just stopped caring and they defeated it because then it just like the flu. You might get sick. you might not. You might not but either way life would go and if you are listening to this program and you've paid attention to the numbers you might also be asking yourself in the united states anyway. What happened to the flu and the common cold. The cdc numbers don't example. Don't get that anymore. they don't exist. Apparently covid nineteen is the cure for the common cold and also the common flu and this is from a jordan shock talal sub stack dot com. It's editorial bit And it says china's covid nineteen success is a mirage that continues to deceive the west wuhan residents packed city streets to bring in twenty twenty one. Now you may not have seen this but there was a nice photo floating around on the social media. The top of the photo was of course. China new year's eve with packed streets in the downtown areas of all the big shitty and then of course the bottom photo was times square where there was no nothing empty except for the mayor and the mayor interesting taking their. You know hypocritical dance moves. Social media was set ablaze last night with shocked and perplexed reactions to near celebrations media coming out of wuhan china which showed packed streets and citizens bringing in twenty twenty one in an almost pre corona fashion unparalleled in virtually the entirety of the western world the wuhan celebrations were presented as a great source of national pride for china who are projecting to the world that they alone has succeeded in conquering a virus. That no one else has been able to get under control by not worrying about it. As the covid nineteen case count continues to rack up across the west. China claims that its pandemic problem has been solved for many months. And then there's a bit of a video here that actually shows you can see thousands of people gathering a many were baffled to see china's unprecedented images and videos showcasing supposed success in dealing with the virus. All without even having the need for a covid nineteen vaccine. Some were down writing that the chinese citizens able to bring in the new year freely and openly hoping that one day it could be them to. You can just stop falling for government nonsense to that's all it's gonna take is for people to stop going along to get along but they don't seem to be interested in doing that. I can't you're to branch davidian today. You tell the story you. I'll tell the story. Wait till it. Now brad okay. I'll do it So i just wanna make sure this isn't a joke. Like how do you cure a branch committee. And what is the branch davidian. A branch davidian. A member of the of the covidien colt the the cult. That believes that you know the branch the covert is the end of the world. That we're all gonna die of it. Even sure you cure to branch davidian or did you just cure somebody. Who was going along to get along. Well it's my story. i'm away. I one all right okay. So anyway i'm in the gas station. And i'm doing what i usually do Which is i always asks the cashier. How many people do you know that are sick and always say the same thing just about which is nobody. I've seen you do this. You are very good at doing so. And i say doesn't that seem strange to you or something like that. This time. i said strangest pandemic ever usually people get sick when they have them. And and i turn around just in time to see this guy and in lime behind me. Whip off his mask and say something. I couldn't say on the radio. This thing and i was like. Oh my god. I gave him his face back. Nice even have a face a now he does. That's pretty cool. Some some people steal your face right off your head. I'll put it back so the socratic method was deployed where you merely asked a series of questions a very short series of one question All it took. And i guess i guess you said strangest Pandemic ever instead of doesn't that seem strange. That would have been a second question. I yeah well. Yes this time i did. Although that that is a common one with me also as doesn't that seem strange to you you know eight months into the worst pandemic ever now. Did this particular person whom you've claimed to have cured of his branch davidian. Did he say anything to you. They're like wearing one of these things again. he did not he merely whipped it off. Okay and didn't he. He said f this mask or something why he did. But i can't say that on the radio okay. You can say because we've got an unconstitutional organization called the fcc. That doesn't permit that sort of i have. I have a made up. Acronym for them. That i also can't say on the radio i can say my acronym for the tsa. I'm going to save thousands standing around your your definition of branch davidian. I'm going to say this was not a brand comedian. I don't think that if this person was truly a believer in cova and was truly afraid of covid. He would not have whipped his mask off said f. This thing you just simply gave a go along to get along person the the the permission to go along with you it could be but it could also be. I mean when you think about it for every person who's left cult. There was the moment that it happened. And maybe they'd been maybe they'd been straining at the edges of the cult for a while. Maybe they'd been questioning but eventually the moment came when they wiped off their mask and everyone saw their face and what i like about it and they were in color. What i like about things like this when when you do things like this and somebody does whip off their masks. Because they're like this. I'm so glad it's not their pants. Well yeah of course about doing things like that is that there's going to be other people who see that and he's gonna tell the story of how he did that to somebody else right and that's important because it's support for other people to see it so they can begin to realize it's okay to stand up for yourself and that's the thing we gotta be bold but also be nice six zero three two eight three one six zero. Will you off your mask. More free talk live on the way. Freedom freedom is the call of the untamed scotsman and all others that wanna feel the wind under their kilts at free talk live. We love the breezy swinging. Feeling that only kilt from sport killed can give. We teamed up with sport killed to let you experience there form of freedom at a discount. Go to kill dot freetalklive dot com and see a picture of richie and me in our kelps and then head over to sport kilt dot get some stylish freedom for yourself and use code f. t. l. for a ten percent discount sport killed dot com. 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They should have bodies stacked up like firewood and they should. It should just be. They couldn't even drive down the street without you know. Just dead bodies laying everywhere. It's it's all it's all. I've never seen anything like it. Just ignore what you see with your eyes and listen to us because we're the experts. It's attest to how brainwashed everybody. In the united states has been and i blame public schooling. That and i think we got a lotta gullible. I mean he. He said mass don't work and then he said they do. You know. I mean it's it's like attention. No they're not. No people listen to the show might be paying attention but outside of that the general populace now not paying attention at all. They are just taking what they're fed by the television and running with it. I went to a record store the other day and Like when i'm little used record shops uc's and all that stuff and You know i go there a lot. So comply wore masks but Right next door literally. They share the same. Parking lot is a restaurant. that's going out of business. Because lockdowns who decides what businesses get to stay open now. Yeah you gotta know who to pay and how much i mean in a running walmart still making money but you're over businesses. They're gonna keep going. I mentioned this on yesterday's program. The real answer to your question is customers customers. Decide if your business is essential or not if your business attracts customers. Congratulations you are. Essential tremors doe makes a decision not only government. It's insanity man is insanity and you know. I don't care if you're religious or not like don't people you can't go to your synagogue or church or whatever that's a violation of first amendment. All this you know all this Stuff most of the stuff is is is our fourth amendment our first amendment. They don't care people like if you people free money and free food and they got a roof over their head. They're they'll hand over the right. Well joe self said that you put on a mask to go into this place that you you went to. Yeah i didn't didn't want to but the why did you do all guys in there and you know so. That means well hold on. I thought you said you like the guys in there. So you're going to show how obedient you are to show them that you like them. How does that show them anything about you liking them. Well yeah you got me. It's a little hypocritical but Do you guys a hard time positive. If you don't go in wearing a mask do you feel like those guys are going to be a tough time. Probably just asked him to leave. Really and i will say this. They ask customer to leave dan. The position that small businesses iran. Because they got everything on the line and the the state literally low polar licenses from them and they don't have that walmart has and where are you calling now. He's in michigan. So there's there's no medical exam michigan. Is there any kind of medical exemption there in michigan. I don't know. I've never asked about it early. So do yourself a favor and read the mask. Mandates that applies in your still wouldn't even bother reading. And i would just say i'm medically exempt and then they won't do anything to you in most cases if they do then kick you out. I would be surprised. I think that's very rare That that will happen. And you know you can always. I've been kicked out of a few players are asked to leave and put on a mask mascot of a couple of places but You know and it's you know that was probably a bad example. I guess you know the only place buzzed us. Where i've put one on was was a bank and i mean it was. It was if there's a lot of money involved and but the thing. The thing that i won't ever do is like walk in with a mask on. I'm going to walk in without a mask on. I'm going to make them say you have to put a mask on. And then i'm going to tell them why it's nonsense for the entire time that i'm there and how many times has actually happened except for the bank. The bank is the only place right. Oh no that's not true. When i first came back from michigan a doctor's office i went to the doctor's office and they I wasn't even thinking about the mask. Is anything but you know. It's the doctor's office things at that point. I figured out a doctor's office okay. It's a doctor's office whatever. But even then i didn't walk in with a mask on. I was at a dentist's office and they didn't say anything to me. I definitely didn't walk into the doctor's office. Ask out and this is before anybody. Hey joe i have a question for you. Are you getting the scene. I'm not going to get the very. I'm not anti vaccine but You know i'm gonna wait. I guess i mean like. I said i'm not anti vaccine. I don't wanna be forced to do anything. If my employer has forced me to do it. I won't do it even if it. I guess it'd cost me my job. I guess but some. I'm not necessarily an anti vac cer- but i'm definitely opposed to being in experimental subject and i've just invented this vaccine last week. I'm opposed to getting a vaccine for something. That i have a ninety nine point nine eight percent chance of defeating if i actually do happen to come down with the thing so that to me vaccine. It's insane it's majority of people who've gotten who died from this event elderly or they've had something else that was basically you know something out some other serious condition you know and it just absurd. What's going on and It just it's insane. Man is like some weird movie were living. Yep it sure is and thanks for the call. Tonight joe You know we do appreciate it. hopefully You have more of an experience where you don't wear the mask can show it off to other people in hopes to also spark them. That's not wear their masks because we need more people showing it off so that other people can be inspired a six zero three two three six one. 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I have been in the central square in keene. New hampshire with a group of people and people have smoked cannabis there. If you don't want to inhale the cannabis don't stand right in front of me looking the joint. I'm not going to make an effort to blow anything in your face that would be that would be a violation of your personal space but if you're down wind somewhere and you can smell the aroma of the pot. Being smoke that in no way shape or form is having any effect on you in your way ridiculous. How i'm ridiculous the only way you're going to get high survey clear only way you're going to have a chance feeling defect is if i go walk up right into your face and blow it up your nose. Nice try troll. Free talk live seven nights a week from seven. Ten eastern live on the liberty radio network at l. r. n. dot. Fm back to the latest episode of free talk live presented by cycles cei- downloaded for free at freetalklive dot com. It is free talk live. Welcome back everybody. Thank you for tuning in to well. The radio talk show from the perspective of freedom. That's what i like to think of it. As our toll toll free our telephone number i know i was doing from the perspective of freedom it from the perspective of not being free and wishing we were. I think your description is probably more accurate than mine but our telephone number here is six zero three two eight three six one six zero. We've got a couple of folks About to speak to us so we'll get to them in just a moment in the studio tonight. It is me the reverend captain kick ass and joining me. It's it's and nobody and let's just go ahead right away to the telephones to your calls and thoughts. We have high. Oh silver calling from oklahoma. You're on free talk live. Hey how's it all that. Well let's see. I've been working on a few projects lately and You still there okay with my phone here for hours. Yeah yeah. I'm focused on activism. You know longer dot dot do that. That's supposed to be alright. We had a little snafu their hypo silver. You can't say those bad words. It's not the word he's bad. It's the fcc so sadly we will just go to the calling for weeks. That's funny we've got to give him a hard time next time. I tell you silver. Sadly we can't allow cussing on the air so we had to let you go but we do. Have steve calling from arkansas. Steve you're on free talk. Live so steve steve. Free freetalklive live you doing. We're good what's on your mind tonight like apologize for my neighbor from oklahoma there I won't i won't be saying those words please please please So i i attended a funeral today. seventy two year old gentleman who was a thirty two year army vet A buddy of mine. It was his father and of course he died of covid and i'm using air quotes Interesting he he was sick for about a month and developed. Pneumonia went to the doctor. Tested negative for covid. So they gave me some medication. Sent him home. Went back to the doctor later. Tested negative for govan. They put him in the hospital. And where did they put him. Put him in the covid wing of the hospital we. He ended up testing positive for covert a week later. Go figure and passed away a week letter. Well if you want everybody dies to die of covid than taking all the sick people and forcibly exposing them to coded may help. That is a little bit like what they did. In new york in the beginning around they put on elderly folks together and and let it spread through them like like wildfire and will they actually shipped the folks with cove into the elderly homes. Yeah they forced the nursing homes to take in covid patients and the doctors were like this is crazy. Because you know even a doctor can recognize. That's crazy we have these regulations that there were supposed to end on the third of this month and now they've been extended another month where bars and restaurants with liquor license at to close at eleven o'clock colon not like to go out at night. Is it like having trouble driving. When get star here you know. It's just get me if you're a restaurant that doesn't so alcohol then you can stay open later But if you're a restaurant that's got alcohol you have to close at eleven o'clock because apparently cove it is not only a lightweight but also an alcoholic that can't handle us after most viruses called him. That's why i reckon. I recommend you know i. It's it's just insane that we know we have. Of course these mask mandate and and now i i go to a place here The lady that owns the place her and her husband or are good folks just trying to make a living restaurant here and a bar and i wear a mask when i go in there bar because i don't want her to get the ticket or get her licence taken away because i'm there without a mask. Now it's weird because all you gotta do is. Walk in with your mass. As soon as you have your drink you can take it off coke. Tell us what you have a drink. Your off limits right. Yeah if you've got a beer in hand. Apparently the natural carbonation of the beer keeps the and away. Various bacteria and micro-organisms in general really can't handle their alcohol. That's what i said. You're cova de lightweight but also an alcoholic. Anyway i just wanna you know the and that's just a little. Oh arkansas I can imagine the bigger cities and and things like that that it's That it's even worse but the fact that you know we're getting three to four thousand cases a day reported and thirty to fifty deaths reported but there's only been like thing. People in arkansas died from the flu this year. it's crazy. yeah so weird. It appreciate the call today. Steve stevens listening to us and ninety six point seven That is so weird that the whole they took him to the hospital and put them in the cove award thing. I don't like that at all i. I assume there's nothing guy can really do about that like from a legal perspective. How you could not go to the hospital fight back. Yeah used to go if they try to take you against your will fight back. It just seems bizarre that somebody would you get a little bit sick and then go to the hospital and then be sent to the covid word and then being diagnosed with a week later i won't go near doctors until this thing is over well and you know we've seen with like the the great barrington declaration where thousands hunting tens hundreds forty thousand or so a medical professional medical professionals. Well no the whole thing has been signed by over one hundred thousand but forty thousand. Yeah forty thousand of them. I believe that's the number. I could be mistaken. It could be fifty or thirty. I'm not one everyone. I was a bad mother in his own right. But i mean there are plenty. There's plenty of evidence that doctors themselves disagree with how to handle the covid and the lockdowns I say you take back your businesses. I say take back your lives. I saved start operating as if you are a pre mom february of twenty twenty human being again immediately because this madness is not going to end. They're already talking about using these lockdown measures for other purposes including data climate change aka global warming. Whenever you wanna call it and how does that make any sense you leap from one to the other. It doesn't make any sense to me. If it makes sense to you. That means you are probably very very brainwashed. If if there is no struggle there is no progress is the way it is so what i say be. Polite became kind. And if they put their hands on you put him in sanitary when just to circle back to the previous caller who mentioned that if this were a pandemic they'd have to be trying to stop people from panicking instead of trying to make him panic. You know bodies in the streets. Maybe that's a little extreme. 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Actually i've only used one once when i clean. My chicken is here last year. Yeah i wanted to share a couple of things first balls essay. I wrote recently called freedom agenda. Twenty one just trying to put something out there. You know positive. Things people can do to grow their individual freedom in the year ahead. Then we've got all this focus on a lot of negative stuff and you know so it's on the negative. That's what you get that's true so anyway see Paper is on Telegram at the freedom agenda twenty one. Also it's on the website address to dot market in the main menu on the far right. So what is it through with. Pardon what accurist dot market. Now what are you. What are you offering. I'm sure a paper with you. That i wrote of things. People can do the year ahead. Can you give us some examples rather than just telling us where to get the paper. Yeah i'll do that. I just start with that. Okay yeah right. There's a nice long list of things people can do. This utah area. Give us three. Three things. people can do three things okay. First of all If you have a business start. Accepting more non-bank payments added when you guys are big on goodwin. Also get out of the banking system known thank system that and i want to make it clear to our listeners to that while we here on free talk live are big on. Crypto currencies crypto currencies. Aren't the only game in the stop. Using banking in government currency world there are other forms of currency folks already know probably about gold silver. But we're also big fans live of of gold max. Yeah these are a new form of. I'm going to say i don't know how. How do you best describe gold backs. Its spendable spendable gould. It's they look beautiful. They're works of art art work. And and they're you know like the one is one one hundred thousandth. No one thousand one one thousandth of an ounce of gold in the one in the. There's different denominations different artwork. They're great so go ahead Yeah that's a good one Another one is just investing in yourself. You know a lot of people. Don't think about that as an investment but you know learning skills That's huge. Nobody can take that away from you. As long as you're still walking shoot yeah also There are ways to be able to stay out of debt by you know building on your own land building affordably. And they're about in the paper about how to do that and build also wear. You're able to have an ice garden you know you're generating while you need for your garden without having use a composting toilet. You can actually put all that composting. Outside the tank and having normal flushing toilet inside That's one of the things that were promoting at a new freedom community in the western ozarks. I've been working with the jim davidson on getting this planned them community. Yeah sa- called valiant. We're in the process requiring property. Now the let's see on telegram and you can learn more about it. Valiant l. i. a. n. t. underscore community. That's also link in this paper that i mentioned earlier. Excellent isn't jim. Davidson the infamous libertarian. Internet troll yeah i guess troll with jim davidson because they used to come to the porcupine freedom festival a longtime ago you decided the ozarks or a better bet. Well i don't know I don't know anything about what his thoughts were there. But you know. I've been in this area for a long time. Have a few miles away and this property. It's beautiful year. The weather's nice conception of the year did. Have you lived there for a long time. I've had my homestead or seven years now here. So you didn't so this wasn't a migrant migratory project for you or you weren't part of some sort of move here project but you you're creating a project where other people you want them to move near you. We're creating a freedom community where people can move together to be with kindred spirits in this area. They prefer this part of the country. What makes your project different than say. Free state wyoming. Well we're not trying to take over the government so you know some territory in and try very hard either. Yeah it you know. It's better to i get your you know everybody together vice where they can You know start building a free impunity. And then that can expand into maybe. Didn't some people on the county commission stuff like that. That would be pretty easy to do. So don't have three commissioners. Are you guys trying to like count. The number of people who are going to move there or is it just gonna be sort of an open invitation. No it's a Open invitation to people that are willing to buy the nonaggression prince and busy and this is starting immediately. This is starting We're in the process acquiring the land as soon as we can get lamb secured. Then yeah things going to roll for what's going to be buying property and then people will be subleasing it from you. What the plan there. Yeah these are long term lease and it's like nine hundred and nine years so essentially you own the property but there are a lot of advantages to one entity dealing with whatever issues. You might have at the county level or whatever and also not having things like roads that are possibly taken over by the county Main managing our own power grid Things and what was the name of the project again. Valiant a l. i a. I wish you guys better luck than free state wyoming because They failed pretty miserably. Out there yeah. Hey thanks for the call tonight. I do appreciate it now. They failed pretty miserably. Nobody they don't even exist anymore. Their website hasn't been updated. And i don't know most of a decade now bet a lot of the still exist i like what are they doing. I don't know that's what i'm saying. I'm probably here. I like some of his ideas. About what folks can do like. I love the practical advice about how you can make some moves individually for your own benefit to take yourself out of the state as much as possible. That's always good. Yeah and if you if you aren't willing to move to the most successful and longest most established migratory project which is of course the migration to new hampshire. Then maybe they want to take a look at this next move here project which there have been dozens of over the last fifteen years. Almost all of them have failed and his The long term. And we've done some level of good really should be some evidence. Well i know that. The long-term lease bid their modeling after some of the indian reservations. They do a little bit so that particular portion of interest. We'll have the third hour. Free talk live coming up on free talk live. We're bringing people to the ideas of liberty. Every day from wrestling superstars like plen- jacobs you've really are having an impact. I believe like. I said a lot of where i am. 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That's your forecast from your weather center for zero dollars. You can pay if you want to feel like the song field make a donation. I'd appreciate it. We may have a choir sung version of that song coming out at some point if any pay gets that video online nice. I would love to see that. That was a very good time. Thank you for putting that altogether in that. So we've been talking about a whole bunch of things and we've got three calls but but you had mentioned that. The previous caller had put together paper. That had a list of things practical things that people can do to increase their freedom. And so you had mentioned as we were listening as the listeners. We're listening to our commercial break that you had three things that off the top of your head that people can do so. Let's hear them number one. I would say take off the mask. Oh yeah and don't say worrying about what other people are gonna think and take off the mask and if you're gonna be nervous when you do it the first time if you've never done it before but just take the thing. Don't even bring it with you. Just leave it in the car. Whatever walk into the place without it and when somebody says hey you gotta put a mask on or something like that. How i don't i'm exempt. No i don't. I'm exempted medical exemption. Tell him it may. i'm a twinkie. Generally agree with being nice about it. I i don't want to insult the person because most of them are just doing their job. They just you know whether whether they agree with what they're doing not as another question they just probably don't wanna lose their jobs or they're being obedient and doing what they're told and most of them will leave you alone likely when you make this statement if however they then pushed further and say well we don't care about your medical exemption. We don't want your kind around here. Get out of the store or you know. Put a mask on. Then that's up to you to make that choice. I would get out of the store in that case. Unless there's some sort of real critical reason that you need to go through with it Just against start out with the default position of not wearing that because by wearing it and disagreeing with it because there's plenty of people who wear it because they agree look at them. They will drive around in their cars. Walk down the street. I mean just these alone or would their lover or whatever dicusss but start out by not doing it and then see what happens because the people that are putting masks on. Who don't agree with it. Your part of the problem. I understand your reasons for it. I'll i don't want them to get upset at me. Or what will the neighbours tank or Why know the store owners. And i don't want them to get in trouble. Well look if they really don't want your business then they'll say it to you. They'll make it crystal clear because just because there's a sign on the door doesn't mean that's actually the policy. There are exemptions to this thing in most places they're written into the various different governmental rules. Now again it's their business so they can set whatever policy they want to and i will win. That policies made clear. I will make my choice but until then to me. Sign on the door for this thing is just an indicator that they're trying not to be hurt by the government not that that's their actual policy or the the thing is if the sign is required then it's not a communication from the store owner. It's a communication from the government right. You don't have to pay any attention to them their dicks. That's one thing number. Two another thing. I would say is to join the white rose. I'm a big fan of what is going on with. The white row is the white ian for our listeners. Who don't know. It is the resurgence of an idea. That happened originally. During the the world war two it was created to propagandize against the nazis. Originally they ended up putting the founders of it to death because it was so successful and maybe the founders of this one won't get put to death. Hopefully yes because it's a little more diffused. It's a little more You know hard to track people through things like telegram and just in case. Try to be armed if you're involved with this thing. He slashed joined the white. Rose is the url. That'll take you to their telegram room. If you don't have telegram you'll need to get it in order to make that link work. It's day dot me slash. Joined the white rose all his one word and that will get you in there and then what they'll give you is about ninety megabyte file that i guess it's a zip file or whatever you download this file and it is. What is contained within. That file are dozens of images that you can then send it to an label printer which they say you can get these label printers for as cheap as one hundred bucks or or even less secondhand now you can get us one on craigslist for thirty forty thirty bucks now. What i don't know what the labels cost but the probably not that expensive. I haven't looked into the labor cost but so an apparently some of them are relatively temporary. I was talking to an art labels online today. And that's that was important to me. Because i said i'd be uncomfortable using them on private property to i wouldn't what if it can be easily peeled off. It's just kind of loosely stuck there and somebody can pull it off and take it away with them. Then that changes things. That's more still. Don't like the engineering. The litter on someone's private property either so public property on the other hand. Yeah and thing is public property for public. It's it's not. Property coverage property is not public governments owned property. There's plenty of so-called government property out there that could be useful on glows. Does anybody gonna go there. No no going downtown. You can put it on poles light poles or polish people because they don't invade someone's personal space yes But the idea is these are very creative. Leibels if they're funny they're poignant They're really interesting. They look good. They're well designed and you'll probably find some if you're of our mindset. You'll probably find some that. You really appreciate so i would say. Download those labels get that labor labeled printer in in print them out. Although i will say nobody i agree with you to not put these things on private property. Generally but i don't care as much about. Let's say bank of america's atm. Right now. I mean if you're a bank you're part of the governor. It's like being a military contractor. Yeah i'd been the rules on on those sorts of our bank down without thinking twice about it is a white rose. White rose joined the resistance. Yeah those are two things that you can do right now to make a difference and then of course number three something else that you can do is open your business if you've got a business and it's been closed end your cowering and you're afraid of what the government's going to do while they're gonna put you out of business the longer you stay closed. So why don't you just go right ahead and open it up. Follow the example of the jim in belmar new jersey. The tillis jim who has done everything against the so-called orders of the government gang there and that would be a good idea now. of course i'll go ahead and throw in a bonus moved to new hampshire. If you absolutely really wanna succeed if you really want to have a chance at seeing more freedom in your lifetime you have to combine together with other people who have a like mindset. otherwise we're just all going to get crushed. So i'll okay. I'll do three things extemporaneously. The first thing that i would say is be physically and mentally prepared to fight because the day may come when you don't when when you have to and in in violence he who has a tapes as lost So that's the first thing. I'd say the second thing i would say is find ways to network with other people whether it's over the internet whether it's people close to you get in contact with other like minded people both to you know progress toward your goal and also just to keep your head straight and number three thirdly i would say if you are able find a way to aid in the spread of of cryptocurrency of covered by it and sell it. 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Mark your calendar for june twenty eighth through july fourth twenty twenty one and we'll see you at forecast dot party party. Yes because we've seen from this past year that's for fast and the porcupine freedom festival that occurs before it kind of really the only thing going on during the summertime and was the moment of sanity it really was and it could be that it's going to continue on We keep seeing these politicians kicking. This can down the road. Expanding the lockdowns expanding the mandates continuing. Oh no we're going to do three months more. We're going to two months more. We'll go on until we will no longer permitted which is saying. Take off the mask. Reopen your business and then we can go back to normal as soon as you're ready But to your point captain. There's a headline today and and it's really don't there's no reason to get into the details of it. Uk scientists worry. Vaccines may not protect against the south. African corona virus. varian remember. They came out a couple of weeks ago and they said now this uk variant the coronavirus. It's spreading faster than it's ever spread before it's not anymore deadly but it's spreading faster than it's ever spread before and now they're just sort of their their tossing it out there that hey by the way this new variant. The vaccines might not even work for this new. You're going to have to get a second vaccine. Not just that there's a whole bunch of other a whole bunch of other viruses out there that have not been an isolated. There's murky los there is a million. Each there is cancer. There's all kinds of things you can die of yup and they're always have been and always will and they kill way more people than covid supposedly handsome right and they also your die because death is not the worst of evil. They were also telling people that even if they do get the vaccine. That won't mean they'll have that they will. They can stop wearing. You still have to wear the mass the lockdown you still have to social distance. Yeah so well. Hey that. I guess. I'm ahead of the game. 'cause i'm i haven't had vaccine Good to have the vaccine. And i'm not gonna wear a mask either very well. Let's go to your calls and thoughts. We have david calling from new mexico. David you are on free talk live. Yeah setting odds and taking bets So in these four charges against me. I have Pounded da row. Will torres bernallio county new mexico into the math on three of them. He surrendered to me On those three there's one and the final hearing is This week. I believe the eighth i am. I hope they make him commit honorable seppuku. And this is in relation to what you gotta do a quick recap here. This is where. I'm just like calling into your radio station to annoy people. I was calling in to the public k. Unm college station. They had talked program like yours once a week. Cow which by the way they went out of business. I didn't hear what you said. I said not like ours. We love you know great So anyway they tried to get. They called their personal police force university of new mexico. Police force had written up on four charges. Because i dared to call into their program after. They told me they didn't want to hear from any more. I argued that because they're owned by the taxpayers and paid for by the taxpayers. They can't have that choice. They gotta be more Equal in their distribution of their resources. They disagreed had charged four times and i've beaten him on three of the four charges and there's one left and it's interesting to note that we're demanding the evidence and they for five years now. They've had five years to deliver this as evidence here and they still haven't delivered defendant needs interviews with witnesses twenty five police reports audio recordings state to research and set interviews reset for pretrial conference in approximately forty five days. Well that's up on the eighth and we'll see whether they show up with any of that evidence they've had five years and haven't deliver doing supposed to be able to review the evidence that they have before you're hearing is discovered. Well theoretically the. There's remember that theoretically there's a A public attorney involved a roberta your chick. But she has stopped communicating with me as of about four or five months ago. Doesn't communicate with me at all. So i don i I haven't had the opportunity to view any of this evidence so anyway taking bets that the bed is so. Is this a setup. Or will they surrender in other words Are they gonna if they surrendered on the previous three. Are they going to surrender on the fourth one or was that a strategic move on their part to put all of the resources into fighting one case while letting the other three go. That's the bet. I i'll give you an answer but i have a question. What is this fourth charge. What is what is the thing that they're claiming that well scott stocking of course so that's the terminology. They a stocking for this. This one is shocking. It as compared to there were they used to annoy and harassing and whatever for other ones but anyway yes talking. Is this one. I think it's domestic. Yeah i think. I think that since you've gone through the motions you know you you've gone through the system so to speak. I'm optimistic here. I think they're just gonna toss it. I think you're gonna show up and they're going to be like oh well you didn't bring evidence and so we'll dismiss it. That's what i think. Or i hope. Anyway yeah i would. I would say that's the The likely the likely odds so the a long shot for the other one but it would be fun if they would decide that they wanted to to to fight after all. That would be fun. So bring it on raul torres. Bring it on anything else today. David not pretty much sums it up. Thank you best of luck with that and give us the update after it happens because I will want to know what goes on. Appreciate the call today the system it is designed to work against you in almost every way every shape every form that it could possibly be designed to do so in my opinion and people like david they get caught up in it all the time. They'll throw whatever they want at the wall and see what sticks and hope that you don't fight it so that they can go ahead and prosecute you thanks for having stones david a six zero three two eight three six one. Six zero is our number more free. Talk live is on the way maxwell runaway the of your decision about nine years ago the scratching a lot and he started moving some hair. My bet said already must be allergic. Do the chicken nada that with rain third. That says the weather something. And then somebody said. Vi t. e. dot com. I you're listening to sneak ads in different stories of different people and it just clicked. 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Live the live call in radio. Talk program where you can take control of the airwaves and talk about whatever is on your mind are calling number. Is six zero three two eight three six one six zero six zero three two three six one six. Oh in the studio tonight. It's myself the captain and nobody and we're gonna shift gears a little bit. And what are we gonna talk about mr freeman. You have something about camp cove it. Well i saw a post from vin armani former co host. Here on free talk live. He's always got some interesting stuff going on after the suit you'd have to ask him okay but i don't think it was born with that name i don't i think the suit was named after him. That's classy is handsome But anyway as the he posted a i guess. It was an image of a screenshot of extensively the cdc website. Okay and. I went ahead and google the texts. I could make sure that was actually a real image. Because you never know which with social media whether something's been doctored or whatever. But i did find the page in question. It was updated on july twenty sixth of two thousand twenty so not not recently but during during summertime that was recent. Well i mean seems like a long time ago to me but nonetheless The cdc report here that they have a thing that they're calling the shielding approach now. That sounds real safe right. Like you're shielding shielding approach. It's all about protection and it's a different term. They've they've changed the wording it's no longer concentration camp. It's now shielding approach. Oh so this is when they take something that they're doing and make a new words for yeah hide. What it really is correct using thing is that i laughed at alex jones when he predicted. All this yeah. So the document presents considerations from the perspective of the cdc for implementing the shielding approach in humanitarian settings. They're going to do it. Humanitarian humanitarian concentration care. No we're gonna we're bombing for humanity. Look there's nothing to worry about here. The government would never ever do it. Like the nazis did of course they would do it humanitarian when they do it so as outlined and guidance documents focused on camps displaced populations in low resource settings. This approach has never been documented and has raised questions and concerns among humanitarian partners. Who support response activities in these settings. The purpose of this documents to highlight potential implementation challenges the shielding approach from cdc's perspective and guide thinking around implementation in the absence of empirical data. Because you must control the mill. Control the minds of your slaves. I note in the absence of empirical data. They will be controlling thinking so they don't have anything you know point to and it wouldn't matter anyway. Because her advocated for concentration camps the fought surreal yet considerations are based on current evidence. Not about the transmission and severity of coronavirus virus disease twenty nineteen and may need to be revised becomes available. What is the shielding approach. It aims to reduce the number of severe cove nineteen cases by limiting contact between individuals at higher risk of developing severe disease high risk and the general population or low risk high risk individuals would be temporarily relocated to safe or green zones. Didn't they temporarily relocate a bunch of japanese world war. Two yes they they Temporarily relocated a lotta juice during world war two as well. No right that's right. established at the households. They'll create these safe or quote green zones at the household neighborhood camp slash sector or community level but is a camp slash. Go ahead down to that. We have yet to see that. I suspect but they've got plans for them Or the community. They've got fema camps all over the country. It's been documented. This'll be a cdc camp depending on just borrow them from fema they don't have to build on. Koa camp cove it as calling them They will have minimal contact with family members and other low risk residents current. If our jail they they were very careful to shield us from that and when as shale to we'll too low risk resident someone who's not high risk as in someone who has a higher risk of developing severe disease are they judging risk by medical conditions lyrical affiliate. That's not being made clear here. They try to make it sound like they're talking about sick people or people likely to get sick but that could mean someone who doesn't want to wear a mask right. And who are these people that get to make these decisions. Are they all the managers bureaucrat. Or are they eat right. Okay so i mean that's my presumption as well so they say here in theory shielding when we're sending so the other paragraph for this reason shielding approach suggests suggests physically separating high-risk individuals from the general population to prioritize the use of limited available resources and avoid implementing long-term containment measures among the general population. I just won't take a minute to suggest. We separate politicians from the rest of the universe. I suggest that was separate. Politicians from their heads. Current evidence indicates that older adults and people of any age who have serious underlying medical conditions are at higher risk of severe illness. In most humanitarian settings. Older population groups make up a smaller percentage of the population. So they say they want to physically separate these individuals from the general population in theory. They say shielding may serve its objective to protect high risk populations from disease and death however implementation of the approach necessitate strict adherence to protocol inadvertent introduction of the virus into a green zone may result in rapid transmission amongst the most vulnerable populations. The approach is trying to protect. Oh you mean like when the when the government forced the nursing home to take cova patients and murdered a bunch of people that is correct. Okay a summary of the shielding approach is shown in table number one which they say is called guidance for prevention of covid nineteen infection among high risk individuals in low resource displaced and camp and camp like settings camp. Kobe coming soon. What does that mean. So that means switz- yeah so according to this table that they are telling us to look at at the household level it would be a specific room slash area designated for high risk individuals physically isolated from other household members at the neighborhood level. It would be a designated shelter or group of shelters which would be max five to ten households within a small camper area. Can we just call them. What they are cattle stalls where high risk members are grouped together neighbors swap households. some traded. You mean neighbors will swap house. Trade neighbors will swap households to accommodate high risk individuals. So that means that they will. Then they're going to tell you that you now have to leave your home. Because they're going to designate your home as the high risk home. They're going to move the high risk people into your home and then you'll have to swap with another person and then you can go live in their home. It's like wife swap. Tv show swapping that they do in in china where they they take the muslim people away and then they aside han chinese to go live with their lives. Them sleep with their wives the camp or sector level. This will look like a group of shelters such as schools community buildings within a camp slash sector a commun- which would have a maximum of fifty high risk individuals per single green zone where high risk individuals are physically isolated together. So they've got plans for all kinds of different implementations here of these so-called green zone. Sounds like y'all come to take me send bachelors. You don't wanna send married men. It sounds a like a prisoner of war camp What it sounds like to me. It also sounds like a lot like cattle right farmers. A couple of barnes try it's open-field three can run around and oh well you know what This other farmer over here needs some of this type of cattle and you need some of the other type of cattle so like every now and again you you'll trade you know for different of cattle. I wonder if you're going to get branding to. We're going to get brands. Wouldn't surprise me you're going to have to have some way of identifying. The settler is a yellow stars to me like a prelude mass murder. Maybe some sort of serial number could be tattooed upon everybody camps or other risks. On your arm or something. Yeah perhaps you don't forget the yellow star you could attached to every maybe a digital chip or something could be implanted under your skin. The letter there you go. Yeah that'll work yeah. These are all viable. What's old is new again. Six three two eight three six one six zero more free talk live coming your way. Join liberty minded volunteers. Anarchists and libertarian from june. 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Cdc was published over the summertime back in july and it is Titled interim operational considerations for implementing the shielding approach to what they say will prevent covid nineteen infections in humanitarian settings and the shielding approach is code for putting people into camps great. That's what that means. And actually in their conclusion they actually admit quotes so many. Remember the title of this thing is to prevent covid nineteen infections in humanitarian Humanitarian in Settings the conclusion here says the shielding approach is an ambitious undertaking which may prove effective in preventing covid nineteen infection among high risk populations if well managed while the premise is based on mitigation strategies. Used in the united kingdom there is no empirical evidence whether this approach will increase decrease or have no effect on morbidity and mortality during the covid nineteen epidemic in various humanitarian. What they do know is that they will be able to have a very compelling effect on the mortality. Statistics of being a dissident against the government is going to be a lot of great opportunity to murder people who don't agree the gam and what exactly is a humanitarian setting. Yeah it's it's just something that they're plastering all over this document to make it sound like you know they're concerned about that sort of thing in this practicing so what what this is. It's a document that is essentially the cdc looking at a set of specifications here and then adding more specifications to that. So for instance. There's a there's another chart here which shows the shielding documents suggested proactive prerequisites for the implementation of this. And then there's additional considerations as suggested by the cdc so let me give you an example of this comparison so on the original side original document says community acceptance and involvement in the design. And because you wanted to make it look like you've involve the people right sort of like when the city council we're gonna make a new ordinance we want you to come in and give us your input because we care about what you think and anyone. That's ever been to one of these things no they don't care about what you think. There's there's just setting a microphone up and allowing you to talk for three minutes or whatever so they can make it look like that. They've cared about what you think right. So that's what they are saying. So oh well we're going to put these community centers together where we're gonna put high risk individuals to keep them safe. And here's all these members of the community who think this is a good idea so cdc adds to this they say even with community involvement there may be a risk of stigmatization isolation and separation from family members loss of freedom and personal interactions may require additional psychosocial support structures insistent ways let let the psychosocial support structure system brainwashing. Yea oh okay well. What are they say that because they can't they just use plain english because they're the government they lie. It's what they do. Yeah so that's one example of how the cdc is expanding the original proposals on this thing to make it sound like you know. Try to make this more. Palatable timeline considerations Planned for an extended duration of implementation. Time at least six months so whenever they start this program. Don't expect it to stop anytime soon. They say the shielding approach proposes that green zones be maintained into one of the following circumstances arises one sufficient hospitalization capacity is established. Which doesn't seem like they're going to do anything to try to increase that to effective vaccine or therapeutic options become widely available or three the covid nineteen epidemic subsides. And they say then. They said they don't know when these things are going to happen etc and so on. Finally here there's again. I'm just kind of skipping around this. Here's another interesting. Some of these things suggest what they might have planned right. So here's another one consideration plan for potential disruption of social networks and then they give further explanation about this they say community celebrations like religious holidays. Bereavement funerals and other writers gonna be a funeral and other rites of passage are cornerstones of many societies proactive. Planning ahead of time including strong community. Engagement and risk communication is needed to better understand the issues and concerns of restricting individuals from participating in communal practices. Because they're being shielded failure to do so could lead to both interpersonal and communal violence. I was shielded for a year and a half for weed. Yeah oh shielded. I get it. Now they're shielding the so-called high risk individuals from the low risk individuals by shielding them away into concentration camp and they're shielding them from freedom. That's right and they're shielding him from making their own choices and for having a life that's worth living correct. I can just. She'll politicians from the rest of the people. That'd be great idea. I mean if they're saying this is a good idea. we'll let them be the first ones to try it. These changes are difficult in developed stable settings dust they may be particularly challenging in humanitarian settings which bring their own set of multifaceted challenges that need to be taken into account they say that household level shielding seems to be the most feasible and dignified as it allows for the least disruption to family structure lifestyle. However it's the most susceptible to the introduction of a virus due to necessary movement or interaction outside the green zone less oversight and often large household sizes. So they're saying that household not gonna work because we can't keep an eye on you. You might do things that you're not supposed to do like go out of your green zone weren't all the wars that they fought humanitarian mission Yeah they only bombed the people that they loved. Humanitarian bombing is something that You know pops up from time to time if governments immplementation of this approach talking about the wider approach to this whole thing with evolved care careful planning additional resources strict adherence strong multi-sector coordination requiring agencies to consider the potential repercussion among populations that have collectively experienced physical and psychological trauma which makes them more vulnerable to adverse psychosocial consequences. The sounds like that movie where they The hunger games like the sectors. Yes you had to like you know. Fight as your and all that kind of stuff. Well we are. That's coming are out of time for this thing. Everybody as the government freetalklive dot com and you can hear us seven nights a week. How good night's piece isn't the shire. Free church offers a sanctuary to those seeking escape from state churches. 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You're listening to the heartland news. Feed radio network at live dot heartland newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertises and contributions by follow us on facebook twitter and instagram's news service going newscast january the fifth twenty twenty one members of the chicago teachers union or refusing to follow the chicago public school systems order for prekindergarten and certain special education teachers to come into school in person this week with their students to follow next week citing a new surge of covid nineteen cases and concerns. That more are on the way following. The new year's holiday many teachers stayed home or worked outside their schools in the cold yesterday and planned to continue teaching online until buildings are safe for them in their students so last game entry school music teacher quentin washington one of them. They're asking us to step into buildings. Run prepared ill-equipped not mandates and just not fair to our students. It's not fair to our school. Communities members say the fear of losing their jobs is real and many teachers in chicago. Public schools are the solar primary income earners in their households but they say the fear of the coronavirus for students and families is greater. I'm lily bulky. The teacher's union says this is not a strike members. Plan to continue teaching virtually an communicate with their students families and colleagues one thirty alderman on the chicago city council signed a letter amplifying these safety and equity concerns many conservative. us house republicans defended president donald trump in the aftermath of his phone. Call demanding the georgia secretary of state. Bad reference burger find the votes needed for him to win the elections in his state. She didn't reports at the same time. Democrats drafted a resolution seeking to censure trump over the matter the network notes that after house minority leader. Kevin mccarthy downplayed trump's stunning demand other republicans rushed to his defense some refuse to take issue with the president's actions and as president elect joe biden considers his pick for labor secretary unions in colorado and across the us are eager to see the trump administration in the rear view mirror. Dan mauer with the communications workers of america says president. Donald trump's national labor relations board used every tool at its disposal to stop workers from organizing by making it easier for companies to delay elections and in some cases taking workers right to organize away altogether. That's why all the more important that president elect take a lot of steps to reverse some of those trends because otherwise workers are gonna continue to lose power in that means losing wages. Losing benefits biden has committed to passing the protecting the right to organize act along with measures to incentivize workers classified as independent contractors to gain union protections but mauer says tuesday's runoff election in georgia which will determine control of the. Us senate is critical because the new administration will not be able to reverse all of trump's policies through executive orders. I'm eric go ass. this is pms. The state of north dakota has loaned dealt with a shortage of access to mental health care in rural areas. But efforts are ramping up now to make sure treatment is available in those hard to reach places. The university of north dakota in sanford health are carving out multi-phase project it's designed to provide more resources at a time and more people are feeling stress because of the pandemic andrew mclean chairs these psychiatry department at the u. n. d. medical school. 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20201202 Nicole Sandler - How to Survive a Global Pandemic with Spocko

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20201202 Nicole Sandler - How to Survive a Global Pandemic with Spocko

"The following program contains graphic material including offensive language. Fewer this question this advised. She's got the news. She talks with newsmakers. She encourages us to laugh and she cries with us. Speaking truth to power and questioning authority daily. It's the nicole sandler show it is and it's a wednesday welcome to it. I'm nicole sandler and each day as we inch. Closer to january twentieth seems to get a little bit more out there so donald trump apparently moments ago released video. It's online there's two versions. There's two a two minute in some odd seconds. I guess teaser version. That i thought i thought was it because he he tweeted it out with a statement saying statement by j trump the president of the united states and it starts he says. This is the most important message i've ever delivered as president and i'm thinking. Oh maybe he's gonna echo his white house. Corona virus taskforce and issue the the most the most stringent warnings yet about this covid pandemic that killed over a quarter of a million americans already because the white house corona virus task force did that. Today i'll tell you about that in a moment but now here i listened to about thirty seconds of it. So there's like a two minute teaser. That he tweeted out. But there's a link to the full video that runs forty six minutes. He's like every horrible dictator around the world who just loves the sound of his own voice and talks nauseam literally ad nauseam. But here sorry to do this to but just so you can hear. This is the most important speeches ever delivered in his lifetime. Hit this okay. Here we go thank you thank. You may be thanking. There's nobody there speech i've ever made. I want to provide an update on our ongoing effort to expose the tremendous voter fraud. And irregularity on is no okay now. That's how far i got. There was no voter fraud. there was no irregularity. He is he is making shit up as he has done incessantly well probably his whole life but certainly for the last four years that he has been squatting in the white house. But the best. I gotta tell you because i think it's cold down here in florida and i'm thinking maybe hell has finally frozen over because sheldon adelson. Remember him sheldon. Adelson released a statement. He is the one of the biggest donors to donald trump and republicans before him sheldon adelson the casino magnate from las vegas. Who actually i think. Got very rich with casinos in my car or somewhere like that overseas is one of those wonderful people. Anyway he has been. I mean look him up look up his history of things that sheldon adelson is said. This just crossed my desktop literally. Three minutes ago or i would have pulled up some actual examples. Things that he said. But use your imagination or just google sheldon adelson. It's there he and his wife. They're both real you know treasures of people. Anyway here's part of the statement. He issued a short while ago quote. The president does a disservice to his more rabid supporters by insisting that he would've won the november third election absent voter fraud that is simply false but instead trump is out at another yet another one of his you. Or he's not he's not there the has his supporters are holding a rally of some sort in georgia. Where they're they're they're calling for to lock up the governor of georgia the republican governor of georgia who basically stole the governor's office from stacey abrams. Who would have won in two thousand. Eighteen had brian kemp not been secretary of state at the time and kept a lot of people who would have voted democratic from voting. We've talked about this ad. Nauseam a lot of nausea going on here today. Just it's more of the same and he just will not give up and it is frustrating. It's more than frustrating. It's deadly because when this administration should be focusing on this pandemic instead. This guy is out there. Ratcheting up his rabid base as sheldon. Adelson put it and and filling their heads full of more lies as if the tens of thousands of lies he's told and have been documented over. The last four years weren't enough. He's got to cram in at the end but and so he is so today. We're going to do a number of things we're going to do things a little later on in the program. I'm going to be joined by an old friend. He goes by the name of spago and spago he blogs spock goes brain dot com also. You can find him on digby hullabaloo and at crooks and liars as well. It's a crooks and liars where. I saw this piece latest piece. That really is a must read doing not have it on that window of course not so anyway quicksand liars. The article was entitled. As i scroll up to the top of the post stay alive. Act now to stop a christmas death surge and spago is somebody who in the he's he's a messaging guy. He works with politicians and corporations on teaching them how to get the message across. He has in the past. He's i believe in the northern california area and years ago. When i first heard of spock. Oh how i learned of him was he went after some right wing. Hate talk radio people for the bullshit that they put out on the air and he called them on it and sort of made a name for himself. He's really good at tel at at coming up with action plans how to fight something how to push back against something. And there's this article suggests how to act now to stop a christmas death surge. Sadako will be joining us a little later in the program. I urge you to stick around for that. 'cause he enlightens informs in an entertaining way. I'm in a couple of minutes. I'm going to share with you a conversation. I had with adam green last week. Adam is the co founder of the progressive change campaign committee. They've been around for well over a decade. My how time flies I remember when they started. And you know they. They're they're slug line. Their website basically also is bold progressives dot org and they are a progressive pack they promote progressive candidates. They were very much behind. Elizabeth warren for the last two presidential races but also sort of like blue america. They help promote and raise money for real progressive candidates. That's their divining line. You gotta be a progressive. So i'm gonna talk to adam or i did actually and i'll share it with you in a few minutes to get sort of his post mortem on what happened in this election yes we we are successfully visiting donald trump from the white house. If you go to nicole sandler dot com. I have a countdown clock. It's the countdown to normalcy. It's posted on the main homepage in. It's also on the listen live page. Right below the chat at nicole sandler dot com slash. Listen dash live slash. Listen dash live again. It's right below the chat window and we see countdown to normalcy forty eight days. Nineteen hours eight minutes and fifty seconds because this is counting down to january twentieth at twelve zero three pm. Which is the moment. Joe biden will raise his hand and take the oath of office and become president of the united states meaning. Donald trump is no longer so yes. I'm counting the minutes and seconds until we get there but but boy. We're living through some crazy times until ben so we'll talk. We talk with adam green up before we get to any of that. You know obviously georgia's on our mind. They're having this batch it crazy. What are they calling it like. Save the boat rally where. They're chanting about the republican governor. Brian camp lock him up. I got to see if i can find this video. Should have pulled it. I didn't and it is just insane. Maybe it's better that i didn't can. I find it real quickly now. No i don't see it but just no that's that's going on as we speak and it's their nuts. These people are out of their minds. And it's that lynn lawyer guy who's out there making the most outrageous claims lawyer. Liar lawyer you know i know there are good lawyers out there but as my husband always says was on the road to go to law school and he said eventually in the end he decided against it because he didn't want to have the surgery and then you what surgery you know the one where they remove your heart. Okay so anyway These crazy people are telling republicans that because the election was fraudulent because the machines are allegedly flipping the votes. They're telling them not to vote. Well donald trump saying that the need to cancel it which is not going to happen. But they're telling people not to vote. Yeah we need to vote. You need to vote in need to vote. You need to vote and our friend. Lauren mayer has a little song about that. So we'll do that and we'll come back with adam green from the progressive change campaign committee next on the nicole sandler show take it away lauren. Sure it's great to celebrate. How georgia's turning biden one. We're not done. We've still got work to do with do upcoming rodman. The senate still in flux against fifty lying shifting corrupt dealings schmuck so in order to get rid of these incumbent jerks. I'm king my ossoff to get a senate that actually works warning ossoff. We donate to their websites. That's a good place to be again flipping the senate's doable. But we'll be easy to saw. The fabric democracies ben torn so. I'm warren king. My reverend rafael porno experienced smart respected. He should beaten who's never even been elected. John visit journalist and healthcare advocate against that racist anti-semitic inside traitor. Do and making sure these. Gop monstrosities are gone. Warnke awesome awesome gets rid of mitch. Mcconnell warnecke saw won't take you long do postcards voter outreach. Takes write a song. We might been weak and ride the chance of tragic loss of and show all those obstructionists are scored by warnke are born again. Arsov not satisfied the recount in the audit. They think the run offspring and now are threatening to boycott it. Gop in fighting comes right down from the top you which response she dome stop so. Let's help them. Spread their dumb conspiracy. Theory helps us worn off. our off. Soft finely flipped the senate. So i'm warnecke being my necessary to bring back basic decency on january one more step towards restoring our democracy. We can cross off and functioning government can be reborn warna king lauren mayer. She's worn a king her ossoff. That it's very very clever right. Okay all right. Some other people who worn are making their ossoff are the people at the progressive change campaign committee. So let's head over there. Shall we on the line is somebody got. I haven't spoken to in a long time. Adam green is the co founder of the progressive change campaign committee. You find them a bowl. Progressive dot org. And well here. We are boy. Hi adam good to see you again. The golden trenches together for a long time long time. How long has been around. Well we formed about twelve years ago. I started feel like you. And i go back to the nation days. Yes we do. I haven't been there in a while but yes back in around two thousand two thousand ten might have been my first one in vegas. I think so. Anyway you've been fighting the good fight. The progressive fight We had a mixed result in this election year. Progressives i'm talking first of all we didn't get the the president that either you or i want. I was bernie bernie supporter but i also liked elizabeth. Warren you guys were all in for a list right. We coined the phrase the elizabeth warren wing of american politics. So yes and i got one of those t shirts you i think or sticker from eu net roots nation. A long time ago. You got three dollars from me for it so you my so but we all came together because we knew the important thing was getting donald trump out of office and were almost there last night. They finally gave in and said okay. You can start the transition. But i still one. Did you ever imagine we'd ever be in a place where trump would be president and we'd be wondering how we're going to get him. The hell added. He'll office come january twentieth the no years ago. It's pretty it's pretty crazy i think. Asc with times and the opening question was what do you think about the election in her opening response. Well we stop the free fall into health. And that's good so. I feel like for progressives everything we care about the doors of opportunity you again and i do like big picture. That's a big big even if the primary and not win and there's appointments down ballot at least there's a ceiling way higher on what's possible for on everything from energy to healthcare everything else. That's true and wait. Look we could sit here and bitch all day. God knows i have about what happened. And what happened over the last five years but there's also silver linings first of all the in the vote counting as they continue counting votes concept. Joe biden and kamala harris have racked up more than eighty million votes before this year. No candidate evercrack seventy million. So we're talking. Huge numbers people really came out which is a good thing but they came out on both sides where we a little overconfident that i know i was thinking that. There's going to be such an outcry against this guy to such a mandate to get him the hell out of office and yet he got you know. The democrats may have gotten eighty million votes. But he got over seventy four million which is inconceivable. What does that tell you about us. It is that there's some question marks still about what happened this election. But it's not a question more. It's this appointing seventy four or so million people came out to support donald trump. I would. I would like to believe that some of those people are just a knee jerk. Republicans kind of tribalism team and they came out for their team. Really this president stretch so many of the civil norms d'amato democratic norms humanity norms. And a lot more a- landslide observation. I did hear that. I do by what happened. Down valley is that there were a number of long term republicans that came out to vote against trump discuss but then reverted to voting republican down ballot in essence one impact of a record turnout and both sides turning out. The vote is that both sides on the top of the ticket kind of turned out. There looking voted down ticket. I think that's a large part of why things weren't as celebratory is. It could have been in house races. Now that's interesting. I'm a all of us. And i don't want to speak for you so it's correct me if i'm wrong but i think i'm pretty confident. In saying all of us expected that the democrats would take back the senate and increase the margin of majority in the house. And that's not what happened at all. Not only didn't they take back the senate but the house majority is now down to single digits and it could get even closer with the next few days and especially depending on who. Joe biden picks for the cabinet. We didn't expect to be in this position. And you know it's interesting because there were reports about the democratic caucus call the day after the election. Some of the more blue doggy for lack of better term members were placing blame on the progressives. The people who fought for medicare for all and a fifteen dollars an hour minimum wage and a green new deal but it turns out that of all the incumbents the ones who supported medicare for all the ones who ran on those issues just mentioned. Actually i think with the exception of one all won their races and those who didn't run on that all lost. Am i getting that right. Yeah actually one is My understanding is all. That's what i thought. Someone told me one. But i don't recall either i. I'm being very intentional about nine. Asserting things that. I can't back up with facts and unfortunately burger did not play by the rules when talking about issues and nobody was campaigning on and when people start digging into the attack ads on many of these democrats. They warned about the issues that she was talking about. In many cases irrationally criticize somebody's democrats for money contributions and tools various cord interests. Which is something. I really do view this as a distraction. I do want to go. You know one clear from the. Which is you know i think in large part because of laying groundwork coupled with it's very real crisis pandemic moment. We're in joe biden pushed he's own boundaries of what he thought was awful during the primary and changes policies a lot during the general proposing two trillion dollars in clean energy jobs. I believe is either four or five times. what he rose in the primary right. It's up but he ran last or ran right knowledged moment which we're very grateful for and can call. You can call the brand new whatever you want. But we progresses are united with him wanting to push into law. We want to cancel student debt. Right one often the challenges fake insurance he called for the end of shareholder capitalism. You know much more accountability and whites for workers around the table. You know i think that. Progressives firmly stand on the democratic party need in pursuit of the ambitious ideas. Joe biden campaigned. On and my prediction is corporate. Democrats are the ones who will reach unity by trying to undermine those ideas by trying to get appointments where they can slow. Walk those ideas and find to be sad. Bamberger did was i think. She attempted to turn the tables knowingly. I think she attempted to marginalize progressives when in fact it is progress into a most willing to win the sale of joe biden pursuing the emissions things. He campaigned on as people. Like me guest embroider who will be trying to undermine well. She won't be in congress anymore to do that. So human right she one. Oh i thought she was one who lost and was pointing fingers. Well i'm in florida. Initially i didn't realize that okay interesting. Angriness with us from the progressive change campaign committee who has a bold progressive dot. Org is their website and that's their description as well. So you guys. As long as i've known you stephanie been fighting the fight for progressives so i'm down here in florida i'm in south florida. I've been back here for fifteen years now and the florida is seems to be no longer a purple state. It seems to have gone read. They have drunk the kool aid. And oh i'm in broward county and broward is a very blue county. Miami dade is also blue but it's a heavy hispanic population a lot of cuban exiles a lot of people from south america from venezuela and other places that have this idea in their mind because of castro and because of everything that that the exile the word socialism is the boogeyman to them and it was used very effectively back in the primary days when i was supporting bernie sanders. And everyone's going bernie can't win. They'll call socialist. And i said if joe biden they'll call socialist to they did and to some extent it really worked. You're in florida Two seats in miami one is d plus five one six Debbie mirka sal powell and donna. Shalala both lost their races and nobody saw that coming. I think part of it is the function of the florida democratic party. Who has their heads up their asses. We're working to change that. But why else do you think happened with. The the the democratic party nationally dropped the ball. Whose fault was this or or are you saying. We shouldn't place blame year. we should. We should look forward not back saying that. Okay good now my cash. So i the florida you on your own special snowflake your own special oldest stack of sand special hurricane but especially by. I still have hope for florida. Twenty team we came tantalisingly close governor and senate yup and i think in this case our fortunes rose and fell together. I i think that will happen in. Florida was probably disproportionately hurtful to democrats. Give into the mix to try the local voters by. I think we're both of the boat and some people came out to vote against trump then reverted to republican down. Ballot really did impact some people in swing races down and impact. You know things overall what we have done thinking about this. Was that a really a message. Coming from national democrats about why. We need a democratic congress. I honestly wish. I'd thought about this a year ago. Sony of us for four years have been saying being. Anti trump is on off reasons. That was true. one reason. At least i didn't say hey. If voters perceive our message to be just anti trauma some who come out to vote against trump will vote. Republican downtick might have been actually a very persuasive and i myself. I didn't make i didn't think about it by. I think that's what you know. It's partly why we need movements. Not just candidates is why you know the topic. They can have to be working together and in this case. I'm not sure that everybody heard any kind of message. Besides anti-trump that said hey you know what you wanna get legislation passed. I need a democratic congress. So i think there's maybe a little bit of that but again i'm still looking at the data and it's more of a thought right now. Losers must've been that way. Gotcha i also think that one of the things to look at for the next election especially down here in florida is educating people. Because they're thinking socialism equals. Communism equals marxism equals fascism. Which the whole thing is so absurd. But these are also the people who go your antifa your fascist with no antifa actually means antifascists. They just don't understand the meanings of the words. I just don't know how you go about. Educating them without progressive explaining to them. Well i do think that if we're debate about labels where probably gonna lose Because every label to be perceived from different perspectives right progressive as opposed to socialist and people want progressive means socialists. In this in this instance has not. It's you know it's it's it's it's dictators it's castro and the thing that i didn't get sorry if you're looking between trump and biden if you want to say which one is more closer to castro opposite world. None of that makes sense right. Closer castro the why because of how he is hurting his own people. I mean we have to drive back to the real tangible impact on people's lives. I remember during the healthcare debate of two thousand nine hundred thousand ten. There was a fascinating time soul that showed a number of things. But one was that seventy percent of americans including fifty percent of republican voters over sixty percent of independence one in public option to challenge big insurance seem poll only about twenty percent of the people on raw right now people in. Dc do is they say. Hey look at this. Only twenty percents of america's liberal therefore you shouldn't support things like a public option challenge insurance right. they're using a weird proxy instead of the actual substance. And i honestly would do that for ourselves. More we focus on you hear the more than we talked about the impact people's lives and we'll say one glimmer of hope. The biggest glimmer of hope with the georgia senate races next is you know is the prospect of great. Yeah but also feel like this is kind of our chance to the abigail van bringers of the world by saying the model is our model deep authentic community engagements and it's getting out. Young people and disenfranchised voters by talking about big ideas and fire them so if we went engender it will be because the progressive model for campaigning of connecting. The real people's lives will have been brought to fruition. And i feel like we can hang our hat on that you know. Even even if we lose honestly she got forty nine fifty percent or more of the vote in two thousand eighteen when every conservative before her out. Forty two percents. Really yup ideas and george. Blue georgia voted for biden which is huge and so any bodes well for january fifth. I'm hesitant to get too optimistic because my dreams have been dashed before. But you feeling good about it. Yeah i mean you know. let's celebrate. Just one georgia georgia holy shit and we want it again. And we won pennsylvania again. I mean you know. This is the beautiful thing about trump keeping barking at the moon. Is we keep getting announcements that we won again and again and get pennsylvania was again certified today. I believe so. Adam green now. The incoming administration is naming their nominees for cabinet picks. Today this morning they had a little gathering with the security team I know one of your bold progressive candidates deb. Howland of new mexico is is somebody that is her name has been floated for interior secretary. What's happening with that as she been told anything yet. I think she is strongly in contention for that position. It would be a game changer. Inspiring is i think it's a no brainer to enter to that. Interior deals with everything from tribes to national parks and public land and she is the chair of the relevant committee that oversees national parks public lands. She's one of the first few native american women congress. She held the first ever. Climate hearings in congress would be perfect. There's really no reason. Oh and i should say. Yesterday republican congress people from oklahoma and alaska came out and supported her. Wow zooming back. I'm actually quite encouraged about the directory. Things are going. So far. I are hand is much better than it was twelve years ago. At the start of the obama administration. The election chief of staff. I think was an early signal by joe biden that when there are multiple options on the table if you would be fine with that he's willing to go with the one that progressives find acceptable and this case ron claiming of of the people that would be considered one of which was a farmer lobbyists on which was a co-founder with joe lieberman democratic leadership council. The democrat ron klein is the cleanest who really has been in the room as progressives on various fights at least we have an ear. We have someone who's welcoming us to the table as emmanuel who cannot wait the table on the table upon young. Yeah it really is. Decisions will flow throughout claim. I think more importantly it's in a signal there in baltimore options. Joe biden this trying to find things that are acceptable to all parties. Right right well yesterday. Whe-when slowly announced it. Janet yellen yellen will be treasury secretary. She is acceptable. Rusty horny but leans towards progressive. Who brought hammer down on. Wells fargo as head of the fat. She has a proven track record of challenging power and fearing the big banks. She's not she's not robert rubin for in those mclaren's direction and she's just work with. I think she's someone that we will likely be able to actively rally around at various points. So i feel like especially an economic so far so far so good and we'll the table and a lot of years. That's that's awesome. And i know a lot of people were pushing and i one for elizabeth warren to be treasury secretary. But you can't forget massachusetts. Has republican governor so in the governor will appoint someone to fill that seat and we can't afford the democrats can't afford to lose it. I'm by the same token. I know bernie sanders. I've heard that. He was promised labor secretary but vermont also has a republican governor. For whatever reason that i don't understand so i don't think that's going to happen which is disappointment but janet yellen was reasonable good alternative to elizabeth warren. I get that deb. Jalan mexico new mexico. Is they have a democratic governor. They do to fill her house. Special election got district. We would be there would be delays. So i deal we can. We can all right. So many she'd be. She be great. And i think that would be an outright win for best as if she got tanturli joyce she's pretty good. I'm excited. i mean. I have finally have hope for the first time it was a long for years. I mean a really long for years and a lot of had problems for the first probably year and a half two years. I was suffering a major. I suffer from depression anyway. It hit me. Hard i really. I barely made it through this show every day. There was a while there. I didn't think i could keep going because of the world closing in on the. And i know i wasn't alone because i heard from a lot of people who are in the same boat. We now see the light at the end of the tunnel. But i have this fear through. It's gonna get worse before it gets better the fact that they started the transition is good but he's still making noises. This is nuts right. I feel like we're living in a bad movie. That never would have gotten made in a normal world. You can call me mr silver lining for one year. Four yesterday was asked me whether the biden folks are democrats in general should should be harder on republicans and gs for you know what they're doing and you know i was torn in. General are right. In this case. I thought was the lawsuit. It would feel more like bush score where they were chanting. Maybe they'll took a gamble gamble. They said we would like to be seen as a clown show. And we think we'll win and several hours. After yesterday oss by think one x of what just happened is by not going quietly by not allowing peaceful normal transfer power trump has genius to poison the well in a way. Hopefully we'll give more mental license to my justice department as you think you trump and his associates if they are found law please to be clear i say one political prosecutions we nothing wrong with scale chips fall where they may not have the finger on the scale for non-prosecution when there is an absolute lawbreaking and he just did not even talking to the biden team you know so clearly breaching democracy and norms a certain tone. This is not president and should be treated with gloves if you broke the law absolutely. I think that's a great place to leave it. I appreciate your optimism because we all need that right now and i'm feeling more optimistic than pessimistic. Look donald trump has on my website. Now i have the countdown to normalcy. A countdown clock. Thank you adam green. It's great talking to you again. Please stay in touch. Sounds good thanks for having me and for those of your viewers and listeners who get old progressive dot. Org join us and there's a lot of work to do together next couple years great. Thank you adam And there you have it at green from the progressive change campaign committee in just a moment. We're going to check in with my health spago to find out what we can do to stay alive. But i this message from an australian seriously. I don't know his name if anyone knows who did this video. Please tell me so. I can announce it because it's damn good. Bye bye johnny. Your time is up so you can take you lies and you can go get fucked. The people spoke and they spoke by may also kyoshi. Because it's time to buy. Oh sorry buddy but you lost night and like everything true. You'll coal it feick but thought you'd be sasha worc- win. America grabbed you by the pussy and threw to just wanted to finally realized your resume and cover the thing you spread like lies. Confusion dreading told your vote by mail global pandemic and that was your file so shut up and don't give your concessions page gentle. Everyone eats a conspiracy blaine full on american democracy. Excuses and a million reasons. From machine press conferences the four seasons down there and go till mobilized best in propagandize. No one's expecting you to be apologetic but let me explain it. And using eulogy defined do more testing results more votes getting rid read. That's how counting if you wanna. She and tax returns we might use. Garon mars by injecting victims. Even c-span crop season two divorces two days of tax tied golfing golf courses guilt putting in cages and twenty six sexual misconduct accusations. Only go like four thousand active lawsuits up johnny and hang out. The booths can use smalls off shore accounts in the oils. Your bank with i used to take of finally succeeded in building. A wall around the white house in is ten feet tall for somebody who down as much as you do to. Look yourself down in ed dude. I used to climb the ladder and fake. Everything else would no longer mattis fake supporters. Who piece on homeless people this to me of the american eagle because he tweeted full the world with no regret. And you're reading on hundred million dollars dead on the down low if you know. What a main. Lock your jeffrey epstein. Twenty thousand lies in two hundred and thirty thousand people died. Got guy that he will give you a job at two when you lose body fragile back. Sorry shrieks inside seventy pedal someone else is. I had combat. Yo johnny okay. It just starts again That's good stuff. So let's do this now back to nicole progressive voices and nicole sandler dot com. Yes we're back to turn this off and get rid of the echo echo echo. Oh we see. We have a guest here and i was actually play a video on your screen. If you're watching on video that we are joined by spothero who also goes by. Spock goes brain and he. He's an agitator he is. Somebody who tells people gives advice coaches people how to i stumble over my words how to be interviewed. Maybe i should session. What spock o- on how to host a radio show because sometimes the brain and the mouth don't work together but is a blogger and activist and vulcan. Your evoke in are you or yeah there. He is on the on the bridge of the enterprise. That all right. Oh yeah oh yeah original and yet the original. I'll tell you what a you produced a little video. That kind of explains where we are. So let me start with that for those who are watching or listening to an audio stream because this after all is a radio show. First and foremost you'll it'll make sense. It's a couple of things sort of morphed together and we'll explain afterwards. So here's the video take it away. Instruction sir sterlite keep everybody alive between now and when those vaccine's really scale up to the public you really want to know how to stay alive. Wear a mask if we can get everyone to live between now and the next couple of months. Get the vaccinated. It's not forever. It's not in perpetuity. We have a right hand bracket on this now. He's what we stay alive for our futures for our families for all humanity. Keep your mother your father alive keep your brother and sister alive to get them to the other side to get them vaccinated and they will live of full and normal lifespan off. You have no idea spago so spark. Oh you winter you. You edited together. Part of an interview with one of america's leading health experts and movies explaining why we need to a well stay safe. That's the gist of that. Yes yeah and one of the things. That i've been noticing is how it is that the various people who are in the medical profession. They've become this place where they're pleading with the politicians in order to get the kinds of things that they are now saying are are critical and one of the things we also see now. We're seeing the nurses interviews with nurses talking about the icu. And how terrible it is. We also see the way that they have the dead bodies that are in. They don't really show those much. And one of the things that i was thinking about as i watched dr peter hartz there was what will it take to put the kind of pressure. On the governor's that are uncharted. Charge of passing mathematics. And i was thinking that one of the things that i do terms of activism is look at all the different pressure points. That could be used. That people don't always think about but are very powerful and one of them would be the financial reasons that could do so if the dead nurses aren't enough for governor pete ricketts to pass a mass mandate. So could it be. Why is it that the reason that the governor christie no. This is a public the today daily beast right. Now she's south dakota right kristi. Noem the place that had the big motor sturgis motorcycle rally. This is the governor of south dakota okay christina so her eighty nine year old grandmother died and she died on november twenty. Second one of the things that was found out was that it is a she. She didn't die of covid. Nineteen what they say however twelve residents in a house that only had capacity for sixty there was like forty seven died in the last two weeks. Wow this is in the facility looking at it. Existed care facility. It's called a still nursing care center. And one of the things that i've that i found out was that there is a facility. There that is costing almost four thousand dollars a month for cystic care in a community of only two thousand and when i was looking up the the entire universe of people who were doing this in south dakota six top employers and the top top. Two of those six are retirement communities in facilities that deal with retired people. It's a huge amount of people who donate to the governor and the number one group that is in donators to the governor in south dakota is sanford health. They employ twenty six twenty. Eight thousand people facilities all over yet. I'm thinking where is the pressure from them on the governor in order to pass mass mandates brand so yeah so i was doing some research and i looked up the former ceo of sanford help in november like he said of the email to staff it. Basically you're saying i had colbert. I'm over it. I don't need to wear a mask. And then the people who are in the hospital they're going. This is ridiculous. We really were upset about it. And they pushed him out and it was. I watched the whole coverage of this. I saw the letter that came out from the people who were within the community. The chief medical offices offices. And i know how these things work behind the scenes behind the scenes. They know it looks bad to have your ceo. Supporting no bath mandate not supporting a mass man. And they're in a position where they could have real pressure on the governor and instead they're giving her a pass so they pushed him out and so i was asking. Why don't we go to the people at these major health facilities. Say why. why aren't you push for a mask. Mandate and how hard are you push day. Is anybody playing hardball. The press aren't going to push these of questions they'll ask. They'll accept the the standard kind of fill. Well support this bill. There needs to be public pressure. And behind the scenes private pressure where the shareholders of ceo call up and. Say hey dead. Patients are bad for business. I mean we get no repeat business this way and so. That's the thing that. I'm suggesting that people that are doing you say all right so if you can't push this way what are the ways that people can push and those are slow samoa suggestions right and it's great that you do give suggestions you get so people can go to crooks and liars dot com. This was posted a few days ago. I will put a link on my blog along with today's show to the article. My the today show will be posted at nicole. Sandler dot com slash t dash to dash twenty. It's always posted in that format but you can also get it at brain dot. Com is where you've been blogging for many many years so so some of the things that we can do. Obviously you're focusing here on. South dakota and nebraska. I mean these are the places that are having these massive surges. If you thought us. I sent you an article from the hill. They they're referring to a cnn report that the a the house corona virus task force today. I don't know that they released it to but cnn got a hold of it today. A new report that is issuing the most dire warnings that this administration is probably ever issued. That's what i thought. Trump was going to talk about when he said are the most important message i've ever made. And he went on about his voter fraud. Fantasy but this report warns that response to mitigate the spread of the virus remains inadequate inver in many areas. All states and counties must flatten the curve. That's a term. We haven't heard in a while must flatten the curve now. In order to sustain the health system for both covert and non cove emergencies it calls on local health officials to take matters into their own hands and issue warnings to the public quote. If state and local policies do not reflect the seriousness of the current situation. All public health officials must alert the state population directly. And it goes on from there. It says if you're over sixty five or have significant health conditions. You should not enter any indoor public spaces where anyone is unmasked. Due to the immediate risk to your health it goes on and on like that it is stark. It is right to the point and yet we're not hearing it you know. I'm in florida and our governor who i call ron. Death sentence just doubled down on his on his rule that no county or municipality is allowed to issue a mask mandate that there will be no closure schools will be open although at a remote learning is an option. Should you care to do that. And he wants everything to open at one hundred percent while we just passed a million cases in florida. This things about this. You know florida politics as looking at nebraska politics. I know a lot of people. There who are really good activists. One of the things i know is that the reason that rickets has asserted powers. He controls a lot of money. Now he can't get the kind of pressure from the state university system because he controls the pockets. The puck book. So i was like who where the where kind of money flows back that direction. You know where does the money come in that way and there are independent hospitals independent groups. That could be doing this. So i'm wondering about florida as well. Is you know so. It's not just the politicians in terms of at the governor level. I'm thinking about what kind of hard ball needs to be played. Either by activists pressuring these different entities are in the state level. And is there any kind of thing. Like for example. A thinking about nebraska. Well we can't shut down this because we don't have any money we can't close businesses to state governor's state senators brassica. Deb fisher don bacon. So how have they acted to get the relief. Bill passed. nobody asks them right. And what kind of pressure. And this is the thing that i found out in terms of behind the scenes pressure. There's a there's a woman who died on the twenty second of november a nurse. And daphne new and one of the things that i saw. I watched a little article that they had on on the local news. She said you know she did it for the people. And i'm thinking so. What are the people done for her. Right specifically what kind of pressure did the hospital administrators do to protect their staff. Now then class gen. And so i ask this of the hospital. Where she died she worked for. She died from the person who was the. Ceo was on the talking about the vaccine that had come in and how they're going to it. And so. I asked one of the reporters there to say. Could you ask what the situation is in terms of their pressure. That they're giving to the governor to get a mask mandate are they doing anything and the reporter replied that well in the past. The ceo has said that he didn't think the mass mandate was the way to go now. I'm thinking the exact same thing could be happening to that. Head of ministry for stanford. Health is going if your administers. The hospitals are willing to push the governor economically plea are wise. Stand up to them. Then why could that could. You have a daphne newton you know george floyd. I don't experience for that entire areas like going. This person is dead and you're still allowing the governor's going on at your hospital. You're not pressuring the governor. Why not you know. I think part of it though. Spock oh is that. There's still this Echo chamber from the president telling people -at's no big deal. Don't worry it calms you get it. It's like the flu. It goes away and the fact that he got this medication that made that his experience. Something that is not available to the average person who is unlucky enough to get covid. It just gives him more fuel for his fire. So people go in these hospitals. These nurses in south in north dakota have recorded videos talking about their experience holding the hand of a dying man. Who's not saying. Please little tell my wife and family. I love them. But who's angry saying this is not covid covert is a hoax and then they die so we have a real messaging issue messaging. Is your area. We fix it. One of the things is too. I always there's multiple kinds of messages. There's a positive message. Part that we put out and the science communicators they really wanna. Have you just assume that everybody is a good faith spreading misinformation. They don't i mean there's a whole group of people who willfully and maliciously spread misinformation and that is threatening speech frankly and not only needs to be some sort of sanctions for that to go after the there needs to be actively people going and saying this is misinformation. And we're not just going to argue with you. We're going to go over your head and we're gonna make it so that this this information is stopped and if we can improve your intent. We're going to go after you in the court of law financially. I mean there's ways to do this. Because i've studied this. I understand a lot about the first amendment and there are ways that you can go about it so as not about making it. So that it's all were censoring speech right. So that's one thing. And i'm thinking about what it is that we can do specifically in in this case. I'm curious do you have. I think sports is really big in florida football stuff. It's huge nebraska thought. Could there have a way that they could use their sports teams to do this. Maybe have a friendly bet with the governor of scott in vermont and say take your but our governor is a nutjob who defrauded the who was a former governor. Sorry i'm thinking rick scott. The biggest perpetrator of medicare fraud in the country and florida voted him into the us senate and now we have ron death sentence. Who's not gonna do anything. Because he walks around without a mask thinking he's above it all and that no big deal he. He's a proponent of her herd immunity so this is the problem we've got leaders alleged. Doing air quotes leaders. Who deny reality while people are dying all around them. This is up to us we. It's certainly not florida. We can't depend on the politicians. Do anything right in thinking of the kinds of pressures. I've been a big fan of the group the individual in the indivisible grace and one of the things going okay. So who's offices. Do they need to stay. Stand out get them to make some kind of comment. I also am a huge fan of friends. A color change yes. It's one of the things that they have done. Is they understand that. In terms of getting justice they have to go through multiple routes and one of the things the organization organiz was going after the corporations and go into these corporations. And say all right. You're in charge of healthcare your charge of these these facilities that you're going to keep people alive. So where is your pressure to the people who can be pressured. So is the key. Is the actions going to the people who are at those facilities and saying hey you can make the private calls behind the scenes that make the make. The pressure happens saying look. People are dying. Patients are dying. I don't care what your relationship with the president. You will pass this or we're going to do something that is financially worse than death threats threat okay and so those are the things that i'm thinking about. I try to have multiple. There's there's there's funny things they're serious stems and the other thing that i do is and this is. I know we're also exhausted by trying to find something that you could have a personal connection that you could make that call and it'd be prepared for the ridiculous responses but make the call to say. Look i know somebody who lives in this facility. I know who their bosses are. I can contact those and say look. I have twelve people who died in this facilities the town. There's only two thousand people in that entire town and twelve of them died in this facility alone so the question is not. Oh did the grandmother of governor Die of colluded or not. The question is what about twelve right. Hold that thought baako find him. At spock goes brain dot com and at goes brain on twitter because peress voices network. See you tomorrow bye. But we're still on so we can. We can wrap other. We get we get cut off on the network like right at the top of the hour but you know we're on a lot of other places other than progressive voices. So i but i needed to give them out so anyway. I'm sorry spock. Continue you have a lot of great suggestions in this article again. That's crooks and liars that. I will post as well on my blog. That's also at spock. Goes brain dot com just a little bit of background. Since i still have you here. You the first thing i ever heard about you was your. I'll call it a crusade to go after the hague talkers in the san francisco bay area who were mucking up the radio airwaves. You wanna tell everybody a little bit about what you did there because this kind of major name one of the things i noticed was that because i worked a lot with the people who are in the corporations. I knew that they when they place ads of these places. They just look at the numbers they don't look at actually what said they say. Oh here's the demographic these listens. There are so what i did was. I recorded the horrific things at the hosts. Were saying right. They read a commercial. And you've no about doing live and so one of the hosts were talking about. You know killing buzz loads of blowing people's brains out and then they did live read for united airlines so i took the audio clips and i put together. I sent them to you. Know to the people at those companies said look. You're the one who paid for this. You probably don't know it. Just check it out. You don't have to support these people because it's almost like when they do a library to you it's like they're wearing your united livery. You know like they're like they're wearing the uniform of your pilots while they're saying these things well that freak them out they were owned by. Abc disney at the time and abc was the parent company of this ks. Afo what i did was. I made it clear to all the advertisers that this was a joke. It wasn't a one time thing. There were multiple instances and it wasn't just something that happened occasionally. It was a full-time thing. And the the company just freaked out because it thirty three advertisers. That i knew of left major wants bank of america united etc but the company itself had a really hard time because they didn't want to acknowledge that these were serious stuff. So what did they do. They just doubled down. Which is what we see often. And i took advantage of that double down. We pushed harder and we told more people. It's kind of like the strikes in effect. You know i. I got sued by. Abc disney for copyright clave. Well i prepared for it and the f. f. electronic frontier nation or independent. They took the case on it. We knew there was going to happen. And we want like we beat disney in a copyright intellectual became which is a big deal and this set the stage to allow us to use this exact same technique on multiple other types of radio host and i taught it to different groups. I taught it to color of change. I taught it to angelique or sewn. Who's now the president of media matters. We used it on rush. Limbaugh glenn beck and the point is. It's not just a one time thing you also have to prepared for the backlash and we use the backlash against the backlash shut by jeff site down here. I was the person who's exposing this. And they shut down my freedom of speech and the reason. I'm saying this about the backlash every time. We do some sort of action. There's people on the left to that's too far you know. Dopey so mean. There's people in the right who used that to say. Well you know you're just you know we're gonna come back to you. The right wing are vicious and they are active with you. So when i prepared for this i prepared for the threats for the death threats. This is another thing that i wanted to talk about. Which is have you seen. You've probably seen the people in the healthcare profession. The public health officers. They've got death threats. Yes all right. How ridiculous this now that we're not gonna go around and death threats to dubliners those kind of people correct. It's not us now. So what is the effective kind of thing. What are they most afraid of. Think about what they want. The most is that money is a power rating and figure out what it is that we could do to interfere with them. Well with the right wing. Radio is really about the catch. You when you interrupt their revenue stream. They really notice okay and they're gonna come after you. So here's another thing about thinking about her right. Who is not speaking up. Why aren't they speaking up. Well if it is not these these. Ceo's these big companies because they're afraid to be noteworthy figure out a way to put them in a box where they have to say. Oh i support a non mask mandate and then have the shareholders. Go what rank the nurses. What or a cave. You're not gonna do a publicly. we're going make sure that you do it privately. You tell us what the governor says all right you want to know about that so shame them use your voice. Use your actions used spock. Goes advice not violence as somebody just said in the chat room. Violins not violent. So and i'm always trying to figure out different ways that people individually to make steps. Here's a falling they are on. That's the problem with these cheap plastic surgery in this century. It's terrible i can't stand it understand. It's like stone knives of bearskin. I wanted to make it so that there was a way that people could use their voice. And you'd contacted let contract with the agencies that the radio people heard about the sponsors the sponsors they did not want to take their brand and so that was the thing that made it clear which was. Hey you know. We don't want to be associated with this. So it's the associations that is made it so that it was okay. So how do we make those associations clear and give them an opportunity to walk away. Give them say. Hey there are plenty other places you can go. You don't have to just you know. This is not their cup of tea. We were incredibly successful on multiple places in various different advertising in the radio business. Now what has happened. It has destroyed this kind of radio sponsorship and tv sponsorship in a way that people they just. Don't wanna talk about it more. It was like this huge cash cow. That is being done. So what are they done now. They've gone to dark money right. Yeah so then. There's ways to expose suppose the dark money is well at my friend. Jane mayer had a whole book about that where she talked about the way that the money came in from the coke brothers funding rush limbaugh after he lost all. You don't have the because they still have it. And that is their their echo chamber and we're just talking about. You told me to take a breath. Chris christie grandmother. I just read the responses from the right wing media to the story that daily be said and they were all like the meter. This is terrible that bring up her dead grou- die of covid as if the other twelve people did count right right but this is the constant working the refs on the right of the middle that happens and that's one of the reasons why you need to go behind the scenes as well as a exactly baako is what we call him. Spock goes brain dot com website. Follow him on twitter. At spock goes brain. You can also read them crooks and liars and digby sola balu and lots of other places. Don't let the ears full you. He knows what he's talking about. Thank you so much. This has been great. I read the article at crooks and liars. I can do that too. i think and it made me think. We all need to be proactive here. Because our lives are at risk seriously. You know you know. I'm i just turned sixty one. So i'm no kid missing most of my left lung. 'cause i'm a lung cancer survivor. My husband's seven years older than i am and he's got asthma. We don't really leave the house and some people say you're crazy. No we're going to be alive in six months. And if you think we're crazy and you go out and you socialize and go to bars and restaurants because you can't wait awhile. Well then you might not be around when we can once again go and do those things without worrying about them so take care of yourself debts in alive. If i could play music. I have a whole set of music like staying alive. Don't let us get sick by warren zevon. Staying alive enough to put together a playlist. Thank you so much great talking to you and we need to do it more often. All right bye-bye playwright care bye-bye and you yes you We'll do it again tomorrow. Tomorrow's thursday's howie klein day here on the show and so we always have fun with alley. All right thanks everybody. We'll see you tomorrow. Have a good night stay safe. Wear the mask by. And wash your hands and flatten the curb. All those things we haven't heard about in so long they still are important to do all right everyone.

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#92Noon! StumpTheSnob/Birk/Sampson

Paul Allen

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#92Noon! StumpTheSnob/Birk/Sampson

"Thank. Finally seal training, there is a bell. A brass bell that hangs in the center of the compound for all the students to see. All you have to do quit. All you have to quit is ring the bell. Ring a Bell, and you no longer have to wake up at five o'clock ring the Bell and you no longer have to be in the freezing. Cold Swims ring the Bell, and you no longer have to do the runs the obstacle course the PT and you no longer have to endure the hardships of training. All you have to do is ring the bell to get out. If you want to change the world, don't ever ever ring the bell and. Shall, we begin. Nine to new. Paul Allen. There are many many positives I can get out of this game. Fund? On? Ever See for sex. Your high. into. Thousand. Time. Off. Good, morning. Good morning have I found your shutdown anthem value. By the OJ's. Yes, was the name of the song. Give the people what they want. We'll find out right so yeah, we will good morning. Nine to noon. Big spots and I write big SPA. Movies. Nine to noon radio in the Air K. A. N.. Thanks again. Right chewed the to the normal. Ryan Cooley studios little. Shutdown anthem. Then Monday. A. Bitch transpires today ten fifteen. Super Bowl winner Matt Burke also a Harvard Grad. Get some six PM and may eighteenth opinions from the Burke Bit and our and change from now. See whereas had and his heart is on this Wednesday. Canterbury Park boss and surrogate brother. Randy Samson. Nine to noon ten thirty five. Friday supposed to be opening day at Canterbury Park. Debt. Crickets Dad Update on the twenty twenty racing season from Boston surrogate brother at ten thirty five. Win Discount get to rub the felt. Chances for a Canterbury Covenant to convene. What about a canterbury? What about Canterbury racing within a month? To know fans. And Canterbury covenants convening. In the parking lot adjacent to the racetrack track. tailgating. Drive up wagering sweat races social distance responsible respectful. Within a month power to the power to the people and power to the ponies. County what about national average I think in the current state of affairs that we are all in I? Think we're all looking for progress, one way or another, obviously from a health perspective, but if I got to drive up, I gotta social distance I got to wager sweat from outside the park and potentially feel that rush of adrenaline at the wire. I'm one hundred percent in on that progress. You're just looking for a sweat any kind of sweat right? Absolutely. Any sweat at this stage is is invigorating during the shutdown. Way Ain't got no sweat right now now at eleven fifteen. A saw this on twitter. Quotation marks and in between less sports, a good thing, question, mark and quote. So. Norman Chad Washington Post. was that a bit or did he like? Lay it out. With what we're experiencing now? With no sports right I mean outside of Korean baseball with stuff I don't think it was a bit. I think the concept of it is something that we've talked about nine to noon. The serendipity of the shutdown looking beyond just the sports angle of it and ways in which our lives have changed, and he was I think appreciating those changes. And he got murdered for so. That's the idea of it is less sports, the benefits of that and how it's taking place in our lives. Nobody agreed with him. It was awful. But our lives can change. Sands Shutdown with distraction. Factors known as sports. Absolutely, you don't have to make resolutions at eleven five, nine, twelve, three one. Year do your correct. Go make those resolutions anytime. Yeah, we don't need the purge to reflect berry a very curious what you have up your tattered sleeve at eleven fifteen with. Less sports good things somebody wrote. But we begin. With some odds and ends. This. Plays off. What has come up the last couple of days low key nine to noon, and fell offensive rookie of the year candidates and odds bound limb yesterday, after we speculated on glad tidings Tuesday and the way we've laid it out for now and ten and finalize the potential of spotting up at eleven o'clock. We got sixteen of them in the gate. Joe Borough is the favourite. Justin Jefferson is the longest shot on the board at Twenty, eight to one. Above average doubt him. Go ahead. Now these are our odds. These are odds established by places where you are able to legally wager. Yes, tagging this one at ten and eleven to finalize the TALKER NFL offensive rookie of the year, but I am backs. Stumped the SNOB around the corner. Trip on this. Dak Prescott was the offensive rookie of the year and Twenty Sixteen? Cuyler Murray in twenty, nine, thousand nine. Those are the only two quarterbacks to win the award the last seven years. So now. We got borough. Do and a half to one. In the speculating business. In the LET'S CASH COVENANT! In the handicapping world. One of the first things those of us who have been in it, and had facets of this predicated on how we operate first thing you do. Is You find the favorite? You poke holes in the favourite and try to beat the favourite so Joe Borough with these sixteen and the gate is plus two fifty, which is doing after what? So, we got two quarterbacks last seven years. Who have won this award borough is favored borough place for Cincinnati Cincinnati is a non playoff team so borough the thought process with the elimination of candidates in the gate. You analyze the field you find the favourite your poke holes in the favorite, and then you start crossing off ones that do not Pique your interest a. The two and after one piques the interest of nine to noon zero. Yes, second lay the quarterback, equity or lack thereof with offensive rookie of the year. Is Something no worthy and thirdly the fact This individual plays for the Cincinnati bengals that factors into it for me however. Young cuyler one at last year for a non playoff team who see? John That's the rob sneaky. He's plus fifty so borough. Clyde Edwards Hallway air to time. Go by LOA. Andrea Swift. Jonathan Taylor for Indianapolis Nine. And after one Jerry Judy Wide Receiver, denver thirteen to one CD lamb, wide receiver for the boys fifteen to one. Jk Dobbins running back for Baltimore Sixteen to one Henry Rugs Wide Receiver Las Vegas, eighteen to one camakers running back La Rams twenty to one Justin Herbert quarterback La Chargers, twenty, two one Zach Moss running back buffalo bills twenty two one Denzel. Manza Wide Receiver New York jets twenty three to one. jalen regular, Wide Receiver Philadelphia Twenty eight to one. Justin Jefferson Wide Receiver Minnesota. Twenty eight to one. that. Those are the sixteen in the gate and here's some more backs. Running backs have one NFL, ofensive rookie of the year two of the last three years, and for the last seven. The. Two first overall picks in the draft over the last nine years to win this award at Ban Cuyler Murray and Camera Newton. Joe Borough was the first overall pick in the draft to out of the last nine at been first overall picks in the draft, and to over the last seven been quarterbacks. Do we need to hear any more to draw that line through the favorite? No no I don't believe we deal, but there's plenty more to go out there if you want to look beyond the two and a half two, one favorite, just simply looking within the Cincinnati Queen City Covenant Yeah in terms of how you want to analyze joe borough. You see that's what we can ponder. In a shock P parking lot. Yes, with grills and tailgates, and like drive up speculating right, and on the other side of that palatial pony paradise a mirror. Saying here comes con charging on the outside. I don't know man something to think about. The NFL offensive rookie of the year. Has Come from the NFC thirteen consecutive seasons. Interesting the NFL offensive rookie of the year has hailed from the NFC thirteen consecutive seasons. Vince Young. Was the last AFC rookie to win it in two thousand six. All Time thirty four offensive rookie of the year winners have been running backs. Yeah, all time. Three four have been running backs. The Minnesota Vikings actually have had the most offensive rookies of the year in the history of the National Football League. Go eyebrows to either with me right now plays are getting ready. Name the five. Named the five Vikings offensive rookies of the year. Give them to me most history NFL. Give them to me. It's stumped the con- Adrian Peterson Bam Randy Moss Am. I told. Oh my yeah, Percy Harbin, no nine tall person, but now we're going way back, okay? Mid Seventies wide receiver. Sammy. White Bam Sammy why. Not Get two hundred yard game, and yes, Sammy, white, not black like Barry White but white like Frank Black Oh. Yeah, soppy, right bloodhound gang! Sammy white though seventy six and. This individual is from Washington. DC and he was a cane. All, your hurting me right now. I feel I feel stupid. It's not it's not shock. Get is all it's not formatted, got all five. Let's do this. Power to the people That's all part of the timber tech set list timber tech. What's on deck? Courtesy of Timber Tech Dot Com and the nine to noon. Presentation is underway. Minnesota Vikings five offensive rookie of the year winners most in the history of the National Football League and those sixteen that are in the gate, will get deep dive analysis, beginning at ten o'clock, but around the corner stumped snob as in the sports SNOB. Did Sauce win last week when I was out? I believe we tied actually he and I tied okay, so he is too Oh and one last three as he's on a tear. That's the Keita's knows. Kid Cory cove joins the rejoins the equation around the corner. It's it's quarry and Saucy and yours truly in stumping snob as in the sports SNOB. Burke bit ten fifteen. Racetrack boss, ten, three five, and some volatility in the eleven o'clock hour. We think you will love. It's Paul Allen at FM. One hundred point three K. F. A. N. from the Brian Heating and Cooling Studios Eric. Nordquist is the producer for he is the producer, but he is the happy producer when he gets the opportunity to give out cash, I can't believe how many people just by listening to the fan have been able to house the National Keyword contests in two thousand. Thousand, dollars that's awesome, Mike handover a couple of days ago, the latest one to do it, and maybe your next text family to two hundred two hundred. You might win it. Thousand Dollars Pay some bills with put putting your pocket save it. Do whatever text family the two hundred two hundred? That's this hour's keyword and a freshman. Coming every single our tex family, the two hundred two hundred text message and data rates apply good luck. Go get that. Thousand dollars stumped the snap next. Tribute. Every now. Corey Good Morning Hi Paul Ray job of the power trip today as usual saucy. Hello, BID SAUCY is on an influential run right now with stump, the snob as in the sports, not he over the last three weeks. He's to Owen one, so beat me twice. I think without you both towels on just and then I was out last week and he tied so he's on a bit of an influential run, right? When you were here, that's what I got Melkite. The first one I I missed the last two. Of? Them by one he was here. Okay, it is true so to Owen one in his last Laurie He beat both of us then he won sands. You Marnie Galmor was here came right down to the wire. Saucy, beat me, and then he tied last week. when I don't think either. Were you here last hours Ryan Donaldson hosted Halverson. Sauce off the boys on an influential Ron Celeste chopping down. Okay, Nordahl, take it away. Absolutely. It's time to stump a snob on nine to noon. The most elite Sports Trivia game in the history of the radio, taking place right now nine to noon. Three different forms of this game come into play categories and Hail Mary Higher Point Value Questions at all the next segment, but right now it's time for chicken them off. I have three different lists concern in particular topic in kind of a round. The Horne tied fashion. WE'LL START WITH PA THAN TO COREY THAN SAUCE. You will name however many of these names that you can have. Have on this list. If you're correct, you get a point. If you're incorrect, you're out for the remainder of the list. Got You? Three of you understand so? Let's Party. Hey, can I say one thing and this is actually I'm going to do something I never do on the power to morning. Show that defend sauce. Defend what those three categories in picking them off right? Yeah, each. Each one of us should go I once and the reason. Why is if you go I every time massive disadvantage for sauce going last, because not only does he have to get the third answer within the sixth answer, and then it's so much harder for him to do well if he has to go third every time he ain't Sikora. The game is a con creation the. The roles starting stopped with him. Your thoughts the person who gets the most points in a list gets the advantage of going first. So that's how it's been the entire time so corey. If you get the most answers, you'll get to start the next list right, but what I'm saying just almost never give sauce a chance to have the most answers going third make sense. Well you guys can switch spots. Would you like to opposite way? Let's game. I got an idea. Yeah, before we start, we all pick a number out of one and ten, nor writes down before the segment. WHO's ever closest gets to go I. I'm. Are you familiar with the name. Peter Vesey of course. York posters something. He ballgame teen seconds ago. ESPN is planning another series this time on Patrick Ewing call the last lap dance Awesome. What you got over there big boy all right. The first of the three lists and PA will go first, and maybe we'll analyze how we do it. In the future moving theraworx okay perfect plan. We got to the bottom. He's all right three lists. The first one will be over the last three seasons, two, thousand, seventeen, eighteen and ninety. Kirk cousins, one of those with the Washington redskins the most recent to of course with the Minnesota Vikings. Day So from twenty seventeen to present kirk cousins has thrown a touchdown pass to twenty one different players. And we will start with UPA name one of those players digs. That is correct. Horry feeling that is correct, saucy Rudolf, that is correct. That is correct to you, Corey. Going to assume he threw the one the Liqun Treadwell that would be accurate at is correct to use saucy. Olabisi Johnson at is correct, a couple of them back to UPA CJ HAM glazing the. How about that the fullback with td? That's correct to you. Cory Delvin Cook. That is correct I'm GonNa go many laughed. Yeah, well, we have let me see twenty one minus eight so thirteen remain. God I'M GONNA, go with. Very. To. Juan, Todd Sanderson. So maybe to your point, Corey. Maybe we should have SASCO I because of that right. That just happened right there to. Thirteen remain a mere Abdulah that is correct. To you corey. Twelve remain. Not Many Vikings. Many Washington redskins. Oh in the last. How many years last three seasons? Countdown or got three. To the guys, can I get on Jordan Davis is that the guy from? His name I would like to go with Jordan Reed Danettes that is correct and I would like to go with Josh. Dachshund, that is correct. ooh! I would like to go with all Drake Robinson. That is correct. I would like to then go with. Dijon Jackson. That is bother. Correcting I don't believe. Redskins twenty fourteen cousins, longest pacifists, career Jackson versus Philly, but those fourteen guys got all the Vikings, but Chris Thompson Ryan Grant Vernon Davis Terrell Pryor of Somalia's P.. I Maurice Harris Remember Front end of the end zone in two thousand, seventeen against them only yeah. Jeremy Sprinkled, Jamison crowder, spring, and you know the the well-known Capri bibs, so after one less PA with seven makes a great sports drinks. Corey with three sauce with to how about this? We'll switch it up on the fly. Corey you start this? House. Go Second. This is perfect fantastic. Okay, we're all about fairness here. There's no doubt about that I have a chance. There are twelve members of the Minnesota Vikings I had to go all the way back to nineteen ninety-three. It was annoying and it took a long time, but there are twelve vikings since nineteen ninety-three that had a season for the vikings with eight or more sacks. In that season. There's a total at twelve different guys since nineteen ninety-three. Eight. And we'll start with you. Cory Denise Hunter that is correct since nineteen ninety-three. My boy Johnny Randall that is correct Everson Griffen. That is correct, do you? Cory B. Rob that is correct Chris Doleman, that is correct saucy. UPA Kevin Williams, that is correct. A man's going to be really bad. If this is wrong, I'm GONNA. Try Ray Edwards. That's why would you feel bad about that? Sure you're up to six points to use SAUCY, somebody say. Jared Allen No. No one said Jared Allen now you do your. Work. There are one two three four remaining. You guys might be able to close out this list unlikely that my Gash do you. Fox Nine Sam Gash Buffalo Bills back in the day looking for stalling here. Yeah exam gas scored a touchdown. Oh my one on TV. Lance Johnstone spank. Yes, that is correct ten. I am so close to out here I guess I'm GonNa try Chris Hogan. That is unfortunately knocked wreck several like seven sacks. Clips eight. To you saw is a really bad gas, but I'm going to wing it. Bryce pop and is. Not necessarily bad guess. Could you know so? It's all good, but you're out to three guys remains. But God. Three. To. One how? Sheldon, Richardson. I know he did not dwayne clemens. Henry Thomas. Dammit Oh my God. Just Henry Thomas this is ninety eight sacks for no, he should be in the hall of fame. You know he did not who had wheels out Fernando Smith. Nine and a half in nineteen ninety-six. EXISTED ONE PA has ten. Corey at six saucier is five and saucy. You get to start out this last. Since nineteen ninety nine. Thirty different quarterbacks have started at least one game for the Cleveland Browns. My Gosh since ninety. That's great thirty of them so hopefully. This is an opportunity to score some points. Me the first one saucy Johnny Menzel. That is. No? That's obviously correct. I'm just trying to find it on this long asked list. Yeah! to UPA Baker Mayfield that is correct weird bit on that by the way that you guys care first browns qb start sixteen games last year since Tim. Couch did it in a one. It's all over the situation. Then I'll say tim couch. CUTOUTS Bourbeau. You come on. WHO CARES NOT UP SAUCY. Of them doesn't matter I fought for you just give. Breaks turn anyway, so no, that was mine takeout. Go with spurgeon win. That is correct. Absolutely started like two or three games for him. You're the best thing how? How the. Packers Sean Kaiser. That is nice job. Correct, thank you. To you, Corey Derek Anderson that is correct. I'm. GonNa go with ty detmer. That is correct. Own Nine far bomb. Three Brady Quinn to yes, that is correct. Kelly Holcomb one. That's the only one I have, is you? That is correct back to you saucy. With the one and only. Three To. Achilles Smith. Keely Smith is a thing but I. think that was bengals. Many more to go the a three. To our g three, that is correct while greasy. I don't feel good about this, but didn't Josh mccown play for. Correct am at. That's a good one. You're up to ten points. softener out. He's out. He's out back to you. I think Trent dilfer that is corrected one dude. I might be out to you so. One of my I know. But that's about it. I can't picture anybody else I'm out. Anyone UPN Colt. McCoy, that is correct Justin Guard and Oh my God. Three! To Roost Grad Cal ski that is correct one of. Three. To Ninety Nine on right? Yes, Wander Anderson said. well done. PA was nineteen points Corey with ten saucy with eight A. You missed Doug Peterson Jeff Garcia Garcia. Come on, we should have luke mccown, Charlie, fry, Luke, mccown, and Josh Yeah. It's a family affair. Can Dorsey Jake degrom? Oh, Ken Dorsey Seneca Wallace Brandon Weeden fad, Lewis. Jason, Campbell. Brian Hoyer Connor Shaw said Jason Campbell. No, you do not. Know Austin Davis Cody Kessler, Kevin Hogan and tyrod Taylor got it tyrod so at seventeen to ten to eight and around the corner we will do categories and Hail Mary related questions. It is stumped the SNOB STUMP THE SNOB on nine to noon and I want to remind everybody about profile plan dot com. I started the weight loss journey with them back in the summertime and the. The Lost Fifty pounds utilizing the weight loss program with profile by Sanford and Sanford health. It was developed by doctors and researchers and the program was seamless. I was never hungry. The food made sense. It was about creating a new routine. That's got. That's kind of what it's about. Is You know you envision? Hey, I'm just going to do things differently. Sometimes, it's difficult to do it. It on your own I. Ask for help I got help and I saw success with profile by Sanford. Now we're times new routines for all of us. 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It's nine forty welcome back while Alan, Gorrie go and sauce from the power trip morning show wildly successful and highly touted for multiple decades multiple reasons. this game is a con creation and We are onto the categories, absolutely gentlemen after last segment and picking them off in the lead with seventeen, MR, cove has ten meat sauce has eight, and now it is time for categories. Absolutely. Moldy in here. Four categories with four ascending questions and point value one through four. You gentlemen at the table have these categories in front of you. They include strikes. Problem Children. In. The man of the year averill and still dancing. Jordan Era Bulls. As the lead after last segment, so does control the board. You have an opportunity to answer the question. If it's incorrect, the other two can use their name as a buzzer to jump in after the incorrect answer is given after Paul, and we'll have an opportunity to steal the points and control of the board. What's up, thanks Nardo I would like still dancing for one four one all right for one point. Only one franchise history completed the season with a better record than the ninety six bulls. Say it again place. Only. One Franchise in NBA history completed season with a better record than the ninety six balls Golden State Warriors. That's right that is correct. Guy Next to still dancing. Thank you saw in the ninety seven ninety eight season. The balls had a losing record against only one team. During the regular season, they went to against them God, but got their revenge when it mattered most. That's very very tricky. Question, the Phoenix Suns or cory. Cory had it I the Utah Jazz. Guests them. Up to twelve. Let's go three, okay? Still, dancing for three this six eleven big man tried to batter the Bulls when he was with the Pistons in the eighties, but one at title with Jordan and the Bulls in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety six. Three. To. A cartridge. Box Yes Dennis Rodman. Rodman. I mean he had six eleven is a six. Yeah, there's six eleven. Big Man tried to batter the Bulls when he was with the Pistons in the eighties, but one a title with Jordan and the Bulls Ninety six or Scrim. John, Salley. slider sal down Shelley, who six eleven spider sally? Let's go for all right. Nobody gets the points. Corey controls the. For four points. The Bulls were mostly dismantled after their second three peat. They failed to make the playoffs. Again until two thousand five it with what head coach? Wow. Three. Two. Why no idea. Is it. Hoiberg Stan allback. WHO Scott Skyline high. School. In two thousand five when the return to the play offs. Scotty Scott NBA gers sounds right. Let's go problem child for one all right sweet problem child for one with eighteen corey with twelve sauce with. Less than a year after winning a super bowl, he suffered an accidental self, inflicted gunshot wound in the club and went to jail for felony gun possession. LEXICAL. Number two. He caught nine passes for one hundred twenty two yards on an injured leg in super. Bowl thirty nine is all famer and perceived to be one of the elite headaches in league history as well Terrell Owens. That's right. School number three boys on Iran. Booze Drugs Strip club shootings. Over. Time just for the appreciation of it happened. Booze drugs. Strip club shootings Amarillo. In two thousand seven, this guy fought his own team provided bodyguard in a hotel. Thank you! Okay I can't even get through this. He had a nickname though late in his career. He preferred his Christian name instead. Come on. Now is a lot. Paul yes, Pacman Jones. I'm going to go man of the year for one. Should receive. You thought it was a nine catches or something. Maybe I was half listening. To The T. O., bit, you're not going to pay attention to Austin with eleven here. Eighteen to fifteen to eleven going man of the year for one Yep this twenty thirteen Walter Payton Man of the year award winners. Nickname is also a delicious legume. Say it again. This two thousand thirteen Walter Payton Man of the year award winners nickname. Guy Won the award. His nickname is delicious legume. Three. Chelsea's clam. You know what's what's the legume? Is it's? Got Something. Wait okay, no! It's been Charles. Bean key not a he knocks Selma. It's not a back to you. Sausage go strikes for one strikes for one. Both the let me see here. The nine thousand, nine, hundred eighteen major league season was shortened not because of a strike, but because of this gambling. Nine hundred eighteen major league season short, not because of a strike, but yes, I'll go world war one. Didn't know when world. War One was okay. Let's try strikes for to. In our lifetime, a strike forced a premature ending to a major league season, and no world series was played in what year. Good God. Three ninety five. Ninety four. That's right that is correct. Are you kidding me my brother as a nine hundred ninety four world series. Yeah, he's A. He's Got Scottsdale Jersey. Insane Clown Posse Golos fascinated by the initials game probably not. GonNa his dollars, BANDANNA! We know we don't need to discuss him any longer. Strikes Three. All right in July of ninety eight NBA. Owners locked out players until a new CBA was agreed to in January of ninety nine that reduced the number of games in the ninety eight ninety nine season. How many? What leg! The NBA, thank you. I'M GONNA GO Thirty Cory. Cory five zero. That is racks, wow! Cory cove has taken the lead by the way with nineteen points va with eighteen saucy with thirteen. Strikes for four. We saw replacement refs within the last decade. What season did we see? Replacement players in the NFL. Oh, my gosh, I have no idea we derive this decade. Not this deck, not this decade, but oh see. I gotTA listen. Let's go. Eighty seven right? Are you okay why? GonNa listen if I just listen. I might actually get. Somebody's counting down. Week three was canceled replacement players week four through six before they they solve that problem, so man of the year for two man of the year for two in two thousand eleven. One of us one the award what? Eleven US man of the year old man of the year. In Two Thousand Eleven Ghana of won the award. Three. To shake what? The Map Burke. Son of a bitch. Right let's roll here. Forget fifteen. You're in the mix. Let's go sauce problem. I'll of the your three. This vikings player was man of the year in one, thousand, nine, hundred, ninety nine. Maybe it was because he had someone to blame for anything. He did off the field. Chris Carter. That's right. Although manatee your four. Eighteen points he's just shooting up the charts. These brothers have both received the award in the last twenty years. Three! Two. Corey deal announcer outright I pretty sure it's Rhonda and Tiki Barber. Oh the Macoris. It'd be the manning brothers. The man brother. Problem. Child four is at the last the last the last one. He spent time in federal prison, but also managed to sign two different contact contracts, one, hundred, million or more during his NFL career. Yes Michael Vick Iraq. Should've been one. All right. To complain it this game. Jabba God Dang is complaining fun. Con-. PA, hitting the Dan Barreiro. Sounder has brought him into third place situation here at eighteen points. Yeah, Corey, in the lead with Twenty-three Saucy with twenty two and here we are, and it's time for hail. Mary it's anybody's game. Questions expert, worth six, seven and eight points respectively on. R.I.P. Continue. You got your game face on now. Looked at my bomb, yeah! Go ahead. Boy. Each. Has Five initials like clues. I'm come on. This one. WE'RE GONNA HAMMETT Downing, encourage it. This one is worth six points. All of you obviously eligible for these for these questions. This is the greatest radio station in the history of the universe. Say something quick before we do this. Savaged on a daily basis. Yeah! Savage old on my divorce was dragged through the mud. Thought, that come on that's ending tomorrow. Know what you're talk. Don't encourage it. Going to be a lot of scroll, explain why there is a question that goes born in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighteen real. It's causing problems okay? So! We have this lens not cracking this purge. Let's stay together and play the game. The six point Hail Mary. Questions each has five initials like clues in each of you can ring in and answer if you're incorrect. However you're out and aren't eligible until the next question. How Far am I? I'm Mary. You're only five points out very much in the mixture, and we'll start with this one where it's six points. Thanks thirty six years old from Youngstown Ohio. National Champion in the early two thousands. Yes, Marie, Claret. That's right. Wow, they're learn. I didn't even have to get to the goosen part, which is probably good. Meat Sauce in the lead with twenty eight points. Cory with twenty three PA with eighteen. Delete it to win at this point union both of these I know. All right question number two where seven points. Born and raised in wheeling West Virginia. Acquired engineering degrees at Carnegie Mellon before getting in his law degree in Nineteen ninety-one. According to his wikipedia page, he worked for ESPN DOT COM for a very short period of time. He has a pulse on the. Is Website is now with NBC sports? He does both radio or TV. Yes, Mike Florio. Nice Job Nice job. STORY HASN'T AOL email address. I'm so. Of It right now because of this phone now I, I'm just going to hoist the white tag and move on. It's all good I need you. If you can help me out here who have been eliminated, you could help corey by getting this next one correct. SAUCY needs to win. Corey gets it. Obviously he clinches sweep all right the final one. This is worth eight point scoring lead with thirty saucy with twenty eight. This guy died in two thousand, seventeen at age seventy seven. I mean come on seriously Ameri. that. The prayers Jerky saying again wants to thousand and seventeen seventy seven died at age seventy, seven, my Gash, he play baseball as a kid, but was more known for his work in basketball. He was credited by some with discovering future hall of Famer. Earl Monroe. He's a six time champion. Help construct talk. Yes, read read our back. Helped construct tidal winning teams as General Manager, while butting heads with the best to ever play. Yes, Jerry Krause. John Marcia there is your champion thirty eight points. And that concludes. Stop the stockbridge jumps. Nardo. Thanks for doing it every week. Nine to noon dot continues around the corner with the offensive rookie of the year and the odds and ends conversation then man of the year radio at ten one seven. It's the burke bit nine to noon. 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All right so like when the seventy-two opens or places open, and if you are into futures, wagers and you want to track offensive rookies in the national football. Where would our twenty second overall pick in the twenty twenty draft Justin Jefferson Fall and what would his chances at legitimately winning offense of rookie of the year be so yesterday nine to noon found a several corroborating sites and or opinions to put sixteen into the gate. We have sixteen into the gate, heading into the twenty twenty. From Joe Burrow through Justin Jefferson with the likes of Clyde Edwards Hilar- and CD lamb and rugs and well all of your favourite offensive rookie names in between, and they have odds so. Nine noone wants to take a look at these names, the scenarios the angles the probability, and if indeed we were at any point to in middle in in in mythical fashion, or legitimately spot up on any of these rookies, what makes most sense and why now to recap from an hour ago? the only two quarterbacks have one offensive rookie of the year in the last seven years. Dak, Prescott and Collar Murray. Running backs have won two of the last three and for the last seven. Of the first overall picks in draughts. Only to in the last eight years of offensive rookie of the year, and that would include last year young cuyler. A Camera Newton won it and twenty eleven the offensive rookie of the year. Amazingly the offensive rookie of the year has hailed from the NFC. The national football comforts our conference, thirteen teen consecutive seasons. My? Average. I. Mean any idea or any. Analytical Wherewithal behind that thirteen consecutive seasons where you want to look at it like okay. Well then I, gotTa make fourteen consecutive favored because of what's happening, but when I say that it's kind of like looking at like when when when you and I go to the seven zero two together. Yeah, and you'll walk around the the the roulette tables and you will look for three consecutive of the same color, and then you will swear. You have a mathematical probability advantage. That's the next time it spans. It'll be the opposite number. The opposite color where I'm kind of like Nardo. No A, it's an even money. BET, but be there is no mathematics probability. It's the exact same correct so like four consecutive blacks, and then you'll mash on red for any minute you lose that you'll go to the next table next scenario. You'll double it. It's forty sure and then after that you'll double it. It's eighty and then I go to you after that and I say. Can I have some money? Please go to your phone. I. You send a tax to get permission for the ATM. Get shutdown. Come to me through the whole thing again. Isn't it seriously thirteen consecutive offensive rookies of the year back to Vince Young? two thousand six, the last one to win it from the AFC. Thirteen consecutive, so as the kids would say, or in your case with the five year, olds will be saying. Yeah, it's a thing right, but it took. You can't quantify like I mean I. Guess You can look at all the rookies offensive rookies. And be like okay. I would prefer to have de'andre SWIFT CD Lam Kam Acres jalen Rigor Justin. Jefferson so I got all I got all those guys in the NFC right, but then in the AFC. You're leaving on the table. The favorite Joe Borough. June after one. To what Tunga by Loa at eight to one dolphins AFC and I know what eight to one. You'd consider spotting up on him. charges favor running back in the last twenty years of the draft Clyde Edwards. Hilar- eight to one. You Got Jerry Judy with the broncos Thirteen to one AFC Jonathan Taylor running with T. Y. Hilton on on on the white side and fill rivers a quarterback, what about Henry Rugs in the desert in reruns in the desert for the AFC and that Alabama kids eighteen to one. And I think you know it's so weird and you look at going back to two thousand six. You mentioned it. You know part of that and again without looking at any stats. The first thing that hits me is is the AFC has been driven for a long time by H.. O. F. QUARTERBACK! Wow, yeah, so that's peyton manning and that's Tom. Brady, Peyton, manning minus two thousand twelve or twenty eleven, forget goes to Denver and lights that world on fire, so the domination of Brady and Peyton manning in that conference. Kind of lends me look into the high end in the NFC whether it was todd Gurley. When you're thinking about elite runners in the NFL, it just happens more of them Eddie Lacy Rookie of the year in two thousand, thirteen for the pack rg three for the Redskins, and you start you just go down that list and you're seeing bad teams. Getting high picks them transitioning have good players, the Rams and eight with Matt Ryan I mean just the way things have laid out the stability of some of those franchises in the AFC just so much more so lending to fewer opportunities, but I like it I. Like it in the AFC with a couple of different guys this year PA. The one thing you have mentioned. No AFC rookie of the year since of six yeah. XYZ quarterback tool of the last four, running back to the last three number one overall pick just a couple of times between Cam Newton and now Kyle Murray last year about this. Aim Kwan. Wide Receiver Arizona Cardinals. He was the rookie of the year in two thousand and three. You take a look at his game logs. you go to was very first game. It was at Ford Field I believe it was at Ford Field Okay and he he ran roughshod. You might add more than two hundred receiving yards in his first game. Yeah, Anquan Boldin on believable and a really cool career that he's had over the course of time, but he was a wide receiver that was given the rookie of the year honor in two thousand three. Okay, you have since then Percy Harbin in two thousand nine, Odell Beckham in two, thousand fourteen, and that is it. Two wide receivers, okay from four to present have been given the illustrious honor. Rookie of the year plays into the handicapping where I think we have poked enough holes in the favorite to get around the favourite. Yeah, I'm out on borough all right, so we got the sixteen in the gate, and if you me Arrigoni senior, spotty mouse, and midday, and we're handicapping how we're GONNA lay out these wagers, poking holes in the favourite and getting rid of the favorite, a major major key when you're trying to spot up and a make money with your mind, yes, and be turn a little into a lot speaking to turn in a little into a lot. How badly would you like to be rubbing? The felt in shock copy right now. I dream about it every night before you give me half the money we're going to. Go out there I'm kicking nuts, and we'll call it a day. I'll wear. Gloves were a mask. Do whatever you ask me. Would you just let me take my hard earned money. Hard earned is up for subjective thoughts power to the people it's it's allowing me to make my own decision and to go down there in other people making their own decisions, being respectful of each other and. Being able to put those chips down on the felt. 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Cool thing about this, but now with thirteen consecutive offensive rookies of the year hailing from the NFC back to the make believe con walks around with a roulette tables bit, which never happens it's. I mean it's still you can't say because the NFC has had thirteen consecutive offense rookies of the year. It's prohibitively favored to have one this year, right? You can't say that right well. I don't think you necessarily can. Because you're looking at a lot of AFC teams in transition in flux right now, the greatest ever play the game just moved over to the NFC there are. Are New opportunities, fresh faces, and you know I look at it, so let's look at J. K. Dobbins with the Baltimore Ravens that wide receiver steam that to in the last X. amount of years you you unfurled. That was pertinent. That was pertinent, and because we're going to continue this conversation throughout the show nine to noon. How that lays into things moving forward certainly. Should be part of the talker but I you know I look at guys like about. Zach Moss. What Zach Moss at twenty two one gets an opportunity in that weird buffalo offense, and he gets loose, and we're talking about a fourteen hundred guy, a twelve touchdown season now at twenty two one Zach. Moss should not be forgotten about I like that, and then in that Baltimore that run heavy offense again. We're talking about the word auditees of that Ravens offense, but see I'm out on I'm out on Dobbins because of of of the the sharing. Because of sharing with the guy with the car mechanic name Gus Edwards Yeah and then Mark Ingram. Lamar runs so I just don't think there's enough to feed that sixteen to one kitty. However, it is a run first offense. He's a bulldog and he gets in fourteen times puts him in the mix at one six to one and Lamar. Jackson twists his ankle. The brilliance of the quarterback and I'm not rooting for that I love Malagasy. What you're saying, but there's a lot that is dependent upon. Upon that offense moving forward in a ruthless, never ending engine, and so j k Davits, but again there are so many opportunities here again I like rugs on a bad team. Denzel mims Josh. darnold and the jets have been begging for an a plus receiving threat and the just rave Arnold. Sam Darnold. Excuse me I've been yeah. Josh darnold no relation to Josh, Palmer low or San mccown. So and then and then he got judy in the weird bit I think. Judy has got a tough hill to climb. Because I'm not sure what drew locks God I think Portland Sutton's the a topic with them anyway. But, but but it's the quarterbacks for me. You're going to have three nice opportunities in borough even though I'm out on him to. If that team wins eight or nine games, to what is lock is a rookie of the season rookie of the year from the AFC, and then you look at Justin Herbert with the chargers. He's going to fight with tyrod Taylor for a job now and I. I don't care what anybody says. He's probably going to start early. And that's a team with a pretty good defense, offensive weapons, what if Keenan Allen in that run game and pick him up and they're a five hundred team now you have to think about him as well so i. mean the AFC I think has more opportunities maybe than they've had in recent years. What if the seven Oh? Is has well forget the favourite okay. Borough is not winning the award and I and I do agree with that. He's doing after first of all he's too, and after one and I overall picks rarely win it quarterbacks don't win. It's super frequently and he on the Ratty Bengals and I know I you know Zach. Taylor their coach. He wants to get offensively inclined. Inclined! He's going to be offensively inclined and he wants to explode and stuff like that like Kingsbury Kingsbury. Put cuyler and early good spot to win that award. Yeah, borough. Is he going to be in that same spot potentially, but I would that be something on which like here's the deal. When we revisit this in the eleven, we will have a mythical one thousand dollars. Where we can spread it M- amongst how many ever we want where we find the most value, yeah. That here in the seven zero two running backs when the award correct, yes. Running backs that win the award generally have a quarterback who commands attention with his with what he does throwing a wide receivers, everything correct, Sure Clyde! Edwards aware is eight to one for the Kansas City chiefs yet, and he is the the the feature back. I mean they may split it up a little bit, but that that's the bit. He's eight to one, but see for me for my taste. And this is why we losing the Derby and in the Breeders Cup is when you got sixteen in the gate con. Eight to wants to skinny for me. Yeah, you know, but but that could be overthinking to Clyde Edwards Hallway. Air Ooh at eight to one and we gotta get around this. We got a pause because the burke bit transpires around the corner. Yeah Canterbury. Park has requested new twenty twenty racing dates. The Racetrack for a I believe twenty six consecutive year set to open Friday not going to happen shutdown terrorism the the boss. The President Randy Sampson joins nine to noon twenty minutes from now to discuss the new request and by Philly, faith what could transpire with the race track moving forward, but I national cash contest every hour, a new keyword to new opportunity to win a thousand dollars, and this hour's keyword is cash. Want to win cash text the word cash to two hundred two hundred techs cash to two hundred, two, hundred keyword. His cash might WANNA thousand dollars. Pay Some bills with it takes cash to two hundred two hundred text message and data rates plus into the fan. Hey get rhythm. When you get the balloon. HITTER! Kid. Rock and roll. That phone. You know you're GONNA. 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They will essentially be extended Memorial Day, with maybe a few. allowing US very slow reopening of the economy you know unfortunately i. let me just say this and I don't want. I. Don't want this to be interpreted as political. At all, because it's not and unfortunately there's like everything else in our society has become politicized. But now we've been at this for eight nine weeks. and I respect. You know experts in. Epidemiology I certainly do, but experts shouldn't be making decisions. Leaders need to make decisions and you know to two months ago. Okay, nobody knew anything about viral outbreaks and pandemics, and you err on the side of caution, but there's nothing in the last eight or nine weeks. That has shown that You know this is this this? This is not the Spanish flu. This is not going to wipe out the human race. And I think what we what we know to be true which we saw eight or nine weeks ago. Is those that are at risk are at risk and they need to take a lot of precautions, but for the most part This, we're not at risk I, mean you? You see the numbers and it's not a and and for kids and young adults and adults in good shape a majority of people We need to we. We need to get going again. Otherwise we're going to have. GONNA have worse problems than just and just depend. I'm in lockstep with that. Not that it matters to region radio host, but nevertheless a like how you laid that out those itching to responsibly and door respectfully have more things to do and for a change to the norm. They're getting loud and and I. Don't know you know I'm not GonNa let twitter, be the beginning and end all to everything, but do you sense that that that bose itching for a change and to get start a new norm? They're starting to get loud. Yeah! They're not being selfish. I mean like I say nine weeks ago, he say Okay Hey let's let's start the breaks out. Nobody wants to shut everything down, but it seems like that might be will air on the side of caution. That might be the prudent thing to do, but now if you're talking going eight nine weeks without being able to work, go to work. Run Your Business. bills piling up. I mean all these things like yeah, you don't Ev-. Everybody has been wanted as your breaking point. number two You know you just gotTa say Hey, what's? What's right is right I. mean you know and and and what we should do, I think is that's in. We're all experts, but we've been at this week's. We've seen the numbers we've seen. There's a model for everything right I guess it's like they put out enough models. One of them will be right but this is not the this is not the doom and gloom armageddon that some of the quote experts. Predicted are warning against not saying they should be a hundred percent right. This is not. This isn't an exact science, but yeah I think what you're saying. Enough's enough and they haven't seen. They haven't seen the proof in the pudding. As far as being some wide sweeping ravaging killing machine virus that that some people thought it could be. A Berkey is is the right take. We have been trained. How do act the last two months so indeed? Give some power to the people. I, I think part of that right. I mean everybody you know if you WANNA masks. Where mass I mean social distancing. I think we're all. A little I mean we're all definitely aware of that. Don't tell me now when you're going to your stars that everybody at all times of six apart from each other. You know we're not, but some of these precautions I think are mortgages made people feel safe personally i. don't think that they are making it. Quote any any safer, but but yeah you know what I mean. People are gonNA. Use more hand sanitizer to wash their hands more Maybe they're gonNA. Cut Down on them. They're not flying anywhere right now, so so yeah, yeah, give them. Some power back to the people. We have been training eight nine weeks and there will be a residual fact as far as how to safely. Go about your your your everyday life everyday. Online schooling almost over for some, thank God for for everybody involved be. I'm feeling a reboot. Known as the summer is needed, and that's that's not just students, the students or students with whom ideal just think with online schooling, and how quickly it hit. I think a reboot known as the summer is needed, and if they need to jump into the fall and an do it again, that you've done a little differently. Oh Yeah I mean definitely right I mean Ev. We're just doing the best they can. You have the summer. No student, the teachers, God bless the teachers. There probably a couple extra weeks of remedial lessons from from from this from this past school year. And that's what I want I. Mean. I DON'T WANNA say! I. Don't feel sorry for my kids. I mean compared to like what's going on in nursing homes and with the elderly but you know I mean like kids right I mean kids are virtually at zero risk of dying from this virus. I mean that's what the statistics show and for kids to be cooped up and and quarantined then It's it's rough. The natives are getting right, says Paul. This is how bad it's got the bird. Are you ready? Yeah I mean. This is almost code red. This is my quarantine. Boredom I'm not depressed is boredom and my kids just just beside themselves this morning myself and three of the kids. We went out and we did a family jog. We'd one. We jogged a mile and a half Paul Paul. You know the last time that I went for a mile and a half and jog. Never. I, don't I don't. I don't Y'all Paul Burke Burkey, the only thing from which nor to and I run is our past I always love that way. I haven't felt my ribs and thirty years so when it comes to a jog of any sort. Maybe a brisk walk with involving the dog on a leash for like a half mile. Can't we just start there? Why the F. B. Sebastian Coe right out of the gate. While no 'cause my kids you. They know I don't know how to John. You say okay. Let's go, and they just start swankies right so I was like the classic tortoise like Mortis in three, haired yeah, and I. Just don't get it. I mean that's not I mean maybe you got a job a while before you. Settle into. A routine or rhythm or get that runner's high. They talk about maybe about and a half. Ago. I was jogging for a long time. I didn't jog bar, but I jog for a long time. If you know what I'm saying, yeah, but I don't yeah. I just don't. I don't get that but you know it's not necessarily for me to get the not just not. My Cup of tea doesn't mean it's not a good thing for for some people, but hats off to the joggers out there how our things going with Matt, Burke, and Company, and you and Paul and Matt Burke Company Dot Com and the virtual speaking and stuff. Yeah, it's good. It's you know I think we're all looking forward to the day when we get back to to live events, just because there are a lot more a lot more fun and you get to meet people and just be to be together, but but things are fine, and you know like everybody else were just making the most of the. Of the little break here, they one other thing. I did all that I. WanNa recommend to your listeners. last night because I think we I think we've. Seen everything that's like We came across just by chance now I know it's a and they. They know your search history. But what popped up and recommended watching was two thousand Twelve Baltimore Ravens Super Bowl championship season. And we said well, at least you just watch this and we did and I just WanNa tell all your viewers. It's an excellent show. I would highly recommend for your viewing pleasure. Putting that on your on your TV, watching one out a pretty amazing, probably the ravens that year in the playoffs they beat Andrew, luck yeah Peyton. Manning and Tom Brady wh what the what the twenty. What the twenty twelve ravens shutdown speculation viewing. What was the Berkman? Where were you prominently featured in the bed? Wasn't that prominently feature? You know it was like Joe flacco Ray. Lewis Ed Reed like those guys Oh. Yeah, I mean I you know I, I I. Don't mind stepping aside. Another guys get the spotlight. stabilize. Go ahead. No well I mean God. Bless that super, bowls MVP, and your lifetime best friend if I'm pushing forward some form of television production, and I want advertisers to buy in for millions that Joe. FLACCO personality I always love that one. I mean that's I. that's that's first and foremost right. Classic I mean he's he's. He's like a super cool chip on his shoulder nerd, but the best part Paul so I. Mean you're Kinda best for last, and that made you know you go through? We Win Confetti falling, and there's you know ray down on his knees on the fifty yard line, and whatever and it's all the slow Mo, and they show me all than my son grant. He was five at the time. Holding them with Confetti falling over, and he's just got that. You know five year old baby fat rip off his cheeks. and. It was You know that was that. Was that was right there? It was A. Good night for the burke that we had. An unexpected unexpected pleasure, enjoy man I highly recommend it. It's a great. It's a great film for Your Lesser Matthew. EU Bean Harvard trained and raised the offense of rookies of the year, and the NFL, the last thirteen have banned from the NFC White Ba, last AFC offensive rookie of the year bence young in two thousand six. Rely so so thirteen consecutive seasons, offensive rookie rookies of the year. Go to the NFC it's can. Can you quite like when you're looking at twenty twenty from Joe? Borough AFC out to and after one two, Justin. Jefferson NFC, twenty eight to one long shot of the sixteen and the gate. Can you take that thirteen consecutive NFC and like say okay well when twenty twenty? It's been thirteen in a row. The NFC has to be kinda heavily favored in this. Can you look into like that? I. Don't think so internal really I think that's just one of those anomalies statistics that you know doesn't make doesn't make any sense and somebody. Some nerd somewhere could probably run algorithms and figure out. Playing why that's happened, but that doesn't make any sense, right? That was that was that was like when the AL and was beating the NFL in fifteen consecutive all star, so it wasn't like the L.. Is that much better I mean winning more world series or it? Just kind of seems like it's just Just one of those things I guess. Can you explain it now? I can't I didn't even tell I researched to yesterday i. mean you've got like Eddie Lacy in there? You saw it's I can't explain it now. It's like you know Dak Prescott one in two thousand sixteen collar Murray last year, two quarterbacks of one at the last seven years the vikings have the most offensive rookies of the year in the history of the NFL five. Yeah, from from Peterson. Excuse me Harbin no nine in two Peterson into Moss. Now you play you played with two of those three by the way could have played with three of the three, but You know await. Dollar More Baltimore owings mills. All thing there you go. Samuel for a dollar more. White seventy-six Chuck. Form in seventy three minutes to offense of rookie of the year powerhouse up in this beyond known as the vikings matching. You! Have a great day. Thank you very much for the time. 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This is the man who brought me to Minnesota in nineteen. Nineteen ninety-five, a very very close to me and my family for a quarter century, and we're here to chat about several Canterbury Park related things for those interested in spring or summer festivities at the racetrack opening day set to be Friday. That's obviously dad knew. Race dates have been released fifty two days beginning June tenth, nothing official with those race dates boss, but like what's next and good morning. Yeah, it's been. It's been a great twenty five year round Piane. been a huge part of all of the fun and success, but who does not whatever twenty six years into it we'd be in. Pandemic Mold. This is I don't think any of us are coming, but you know we're all in the same boat and everybody's. You know we'll get through this. So as to your question, we are happy you know as of today that we have at least targeted and all a new opening date of June tenth as you said and we had planned for sixty five racing days thirty this coming weekend, and now we're looking at. Fifty two days ending ending in May ninth if all goes according to plan. But again there is approval processes that need to happen, but the the starting point is we had the you know we have to. We can't sit around and wait forever in terms waiting to know. When we're going to get approval because there's A. Required process with the commission that takes time and public hearings, and so we had to get a date on the calendar and start moving forward with the approval process, and so the the you know the process, we need to finalise things with mystic lake as well as for the person as well as our horsemen on the dates and purses, and I'm optimistic. That'll get done quite soon. I'm also optimistic. The commission will be supportive of of you know us. US getting our fifty two days of racing in and starting as soon as we can. Yeah, the biggest question mark is the what's going to happen with the governor? Stay home order and you know we know he's going to slowly start to dial things back. In terms of allowing businesses to reopen, and that's GonNa be the piece that we will be working mostly with is putting in a plan to the governor's Office of how we're going to. requires social distancing, and and all of the cleaning protocols and other protocols at other tracks have implemented. I think you know the expectation Paul? Is You know there's been a number of tracks running? Fake there's. Eight or so running right now, and there's another ten or more that are scheduled to start in the next few weeks, and all of them right now are running with no crowds, which is you know, unfortunately, not a great model for us to be. We get large crowds and. And you know people have a great time at the track and hit. The big part of our businesses is up the grandstand with with the cheering fan, and that will not happen at the start of the meat, and may not happen for the whole need we'll. We'll see, but we certainly hope that as the summer goes on, they start to open up and we'll be able to start allowing at least. Number of fans, you probably saw the saint, Paul Saints, proposal where they're seven, thousand or whatever seat stadium? They were proposing a plan that would allow. The social distance and allow you know roughly two thousand people, and you know I can certainly see canterbury being able to do something similar. If if ultimately we get the approval so anyway. We got horses on the backside now and. Everybody's anxious to get back to. Get back to normal, which won't happen soon, but at least get back the racing a boss with the likes of Gulfstream Park. Tampa Bay downs oaklawn now, Remington, will rogers trash around the country racing to know fans when when it comes to the protocol, the respectful nature of what's being requested being responsible with the corona virus and stuff like that, have we as an entity? Here pulled from what other tracks had done. You know when when you when you go full throttle with the governor and with the state to try to get this done to start. Are there things you can pull from other tracks to at least take that step? Yeah absolutely there that the good news for us as we don't have to really create this from scratch, there's a number of other tracking match. Gulfstream is one that's been very successful You know some of the old blonde. Had you know had a very successful with no crowd, and so there are. Protocols out there already that we have been able to adopt some of the best practices from other tracks, and how they're you know the obviously you got. Jackie's close proximity in the Jackson. That has to be dealt with. You. Know How you can social distancing cleanliness in that area. You got gay crew members that are. Close together, and and while obviously backside people dealing with arses and. They're you know they're definitely the live racing you know? Unlike some sports where the you know, the participants don't come in direct contact with with each other nearly as much as they do. In some sports, so horse racing is one that really can't be conducted safely. you know in terms of getting the courses over getting horses in the gate, and through the paddock, and and through the finish line, and you know being able to do it safely I've got an email here booth at Kfi in Dot Com Bradshaw Brian inbox from a J. Miser, wondering Randy, could you explain a d. w. b. in state wagering, and like? Is there any shot that it could take place in Chaki? The short answer to that is the scenario doesn't look good, and it gets really disappointing. Paul! Assistant in Minnesota. That you know allows eighty w wagering currently, but not on Minnesota race tracks, and that was just the way the legislation was implemented years ago and a restriction that was put on us by the legislature at that time, and so you can, as you know, sit home and bad Santa Anita when they're running or Gulfstream or any other track, but you can't bet canterbury or running. Running aces and so this year we did have a bill. That representative tab key was carrying that would have allowed that just to complete commonsense bill that if you're not going to allow people to come out to the track to watch the races. That's at least let 'em sit home and watch it on TV and make wagers and support the racing industry and participate in that way. And so we had that bill unfortunately. Due to you know expansion of gambling opposition representative tab key had to. Had to drop that from the bill. There were some other pieces needed that related to You know racing, so you know trying to relieve some of the tracks of racing commission costs, and and you know limit limitation on racing for their other issues that were part of the bill, but And everybody's you know it was publicly discuss that the Minnesota Indian. Gaming Association was one of the. Entities that came out in opposition because of the expansion of gambling, but in fairness there was also on the conservative side. You know opposition from some of the anti gambling. People on that side and. So anyway, it was. It was a common sense proposal that was only for this year. If a trial for this year to be able to help us get through. What are some ready challenging? Economic Times for the horsemen as well as canterbury unfortunately. The politics of the situation didn't allow us to. Move that forward. Now they're all asking about the drive up that in Paul's. We're going to at least be able to curb side or something. We got way of saying. Why don't you put up a big screen in the parking lot and we'll do a drive in theater where we can at least come out and watch the races from the car and big. Has You know we do have wagering? Through our our Wifi that is legal, if you're at the track, and so that's one of the things being talked about is at least being able to offer some sort of curbside wagering for for people that we can't allow fans in at least be able to come out and make their and go watch on on the computer TV. It'll Randy Sampson President Canterbury Park nine to noon radio. Show Canterbury set to open for the two thousand twenty season Friday. Not Going to happen due to the shutdown revised to dates have been released by the racetrack. Still need approval from the state for that, but racing at Canterbury with no fans, some fans or fans could begin on June tenth now the The Card Casino like to to get the casino up and running. You know awesome models, we and or people have seen that that are being proposed saying Las Vegas. What what do you need to get the card casino going? Yeah, all and you know that that's the economic engine. Driving racing is what we you know what we do best and what we love and. then. You know it's what Canterbury was was built to do, but we know that what drives the business economically is the card room both for and for Canterbury so it really is critical that we get that card room open. You know as soon as we can safely do that and get approval for it as you said there's lots of information. Information out there from other jurisdictions, there are very few so far in the US that have opened, but there's a lot that are planning to open in the next week or two, and we'll learn more from that, but they're doing things like you know in our table game situation. You know maybe limiting it to three people per table instead of the normal. Seven people at a blackjack table so they're. Limiting the number of people spreading the tables, outliving limiting the number of people in the room. You know likely people wearing masks to limits. You know the exposure and so there. Are you know there's cleaning of the chips processes that need to be part of the plan and So we're, we're definitely working on that we again. Are you know when the governor? It's all we'll know more. We may not know a lot more, but this week now and the next day or two. The governor's going announced what happened? After the eighteen th, which is how long you currently has the stay home or You know we're sure that on the eighteenth isn't GonNa just open, everything wide open, but we're hoping that it will start to gradually open and. Our goal is by. June sometime. Early June hopefully to be able to reopen the card club on a limited basis under the number of people in their limited number of people per table, but at least start to get that business going and you know simulcasting is an area that we want to get open, and that's really quite easy to social distance. You know we've got a big civility. Upstairs and complaints spread out. They can bet off their own phones if they want to and not have to use tellers and. So. We think that's another area that we be able to get open. As soon as you know, we can get approval in the stay. Home Order is is lifted. You know hopefully when they start opening bars and restaurants will be able to. Open the card room and the simulcast area with the. Boss, Randy as you mentioned with the drive up wagering all right now I'm going to go down a road that I'm sure you've thought of because you've had time to think of anything. You may think I'm joking, but I'm not like with Dr Wagering superstrong Wi fi at the race track than you have. Beck Canterbury Dot, com, or whatever it could be a socially distanced tailgate situation potentially with like grills, maybe dancers with masks, and yours truly and others. Forget the dancers, yours truly and others come down, and we join the fun even with a megaphone wearing a mask, tout horses and like handicap. It could be fun. Point People Paul say. Can we at least come out and party in the parking lot and have the have the deer girls coming around with the cart with a mask on selling dear, not sure if he can sell beer to somebody sitting in a car or not, but. We'll find out, but I think it could be there isn't there is something there. That would be totally legal to bet you as long as you're. On Canterbury Property Bet on Canterbury Park or on on Canterbury Dot Com right, so it's it's at least an option and people are looking to get out I keep having people stopped me and you know we're man I. CAn't wait to get back out there I. can at least come and park in the parking lot and might fallen and watch the races and. So I agree set up a stage. You can get out there and do the pre pre race show and you know. Again we're. We're not there yet in terms. Of approving the is there have been some places that have tried to do. Drive in movie, theater, nights or comedy nights in the car, and that's still lives in a allowed, but I gotta believe by June those types of assemblies as long as you can. Social distance would be okay. Yeah, well comedy night already has transpired with all due respect boss when you didn't get A. A D. W. or it it. It was nearing an end. I got a chuckle out of that because quite honestly, I thought it was ridiculous. Now I mean you from from like you know the the parking lot and the spots man close to the building with the best with the Best Wifi. You know you could sell those spots like boat slips like Norio Oracle Jay. Right, right there. Come in. Yeah, that's don't pay for those spots like boat slips, so they have their own spot with their name and their close to the stage for me doing the carnival barking, and then now you got the dancers with masks. You got me with the Unit Brown megaphone and racing eight minutes. I think we're making headway. I. Will then we'll the next thing. We'll start selling parking spots right up to the poor rail. Pull your pull your car. Right up to the rail on the Apron and. Sit there and watch the races go by watch on the big screen. Bom. Take I mean I it. It's gotTa be three thousand dollars to take down three fences. I mean now see where we're in the idea generating business and that's what's. Transpiring right now, right? Keep working at your idea guy, let me let me ask you a final question here. Racing potentially say June temp gate. That's a Wednesday right. That is a Monday a Monday June. We have what we have tentatively applied for is Monday through Thursday that that could change based on crowds, but what? We're trying to hit their policies, the out-of-state market you probably saw like finer park which was running. You know Monday Tuesday Wednesday. Was Doing. You know two three million dollars a day and handle because there's nothing else for people to bet on right now and very little product, and so if we're able to have crowds, we'll look at a different. Different scenario obviously, but if we're if we're without crowds, we right now are looking at Monday, Tuesday Wednesday Thursday of afternoon. Racing is probably the the spot to be so so racing to know fans I mean we you know when we get these spot, owners, trainers and riders to come in from around the country, and they say you know Whoa the the vibe in the atmosphere at Canterbury. If I lose on a three to five favorite I don't get cursed out. Out at the scale like I do it, some of these bigger tracks that this truly is an entertainment facility as much if not more than it is truly a racetrack, and and and the outsiders really appreciate that now. If you race to know fans, obviously, you need those outsiders around the country. How would that work from a bottom line standpoint? Honestly you know you, you could have the biggest daily handle on average in the history of Canterbury Park wrecked. Met is correct ball, and we you know it's the revenue percentage of the margins from those out of state. Wagers are pretty modest, and that's why if we'd been able to do the AD W and get in state wagers. The percentages are higher, too, but you know that's I. Guess Water under the bridge now, but there is a model where the handles adequate. We can. At least you know. Hopefully break. Even it's not gonNA be. Profitable, but we've gotta get racing in it'll. It'll be strange all those you and I. We thrive on seeing those large crowds and people here when they come courses, come to the finish line, and but actually you know if we have to run with. Empty grandstanding apron little look awful lot like most racetracks in the country. Actually would you know? We're we're unusual. As you know, there's a lot of you. Don't see anybody on the entire apron when they when they Pantley The grandstand so. Anyway, they might not be that unusual for the worst I've got other tracks for you and I are going GonNa be one strange situation, maybe the pumps and crowd noise from the TV and I. Don't know a boss. Stay strong. Call you later, okay? Thank Fall Yup. Thanks for the update Randy Sampson President Canterbury van. Hey here comes with that little symbol. Men A. Day One of the most well-timed. Taps of a symbol. In the history of music. Takes us back to. Route fines. In a movie called English pavement patient when he said you're playing the symbol and the lady said of course I am. Of course I always do idiot. You're wearing the thimble. Six in the neighborhood. So. I. Mean I like alliteration. I think I think a fair amount of people in the public like alliteration. You know it just it flows like. The drive-by wagering outside of Canterbury Park where after chatting with boss. I mean we're not. You know with with six o'clock this evening. Whatever time on Monday you know for that for the the May eighteenth clipping penalty, just the whole thing right i. think we have been. Good wise and fair. To to not be like Hey I think it's seventy percent. This happens right. I think it's thirty percent. This happens then get all pissed off if we think something is seventy, eighty or ninety percent, when it comes to shutdown central park, being open to the Avis and Stella's and Derek collies. And then we get pissed off. You know what I mean and I think you know we're businesses you. You don't have that luxury because you are at the mercy and a lot of ways of what you're hearing from. Stay leadership, whereas right you know, and and we've already seen this for better or worse. You know good intentions. Whatever those mean. Ultimately in the long game we've seen it. You know politically or from state leadership across the country where you know ideas have been put forward. They don't come to fruition. There have been deadlines for testing and other things if they're not executed upon, there's disappointment the concept of. Various deadlines, passing and businesses being able to open. That doesn't happen. People get really frustrated so the difficult position. In a way we're all in a difficult position, but the the awful position for business owners like Randy where I was really just feeling for him during that great conversation you had. It's con- I mean not not because he is the man right, or that is the entity that brought me to Minnesota in ninety five to be the racetrack announcer at Canterbury Park. Park which was canterbury downs they went broke reopened Kurt Randy, Samson del Shannon They Dale Shannon Saint Paul Guy Yeah they by the track and a quarter century later. We are a family I entertainment facility. So it's not you know the this one. I'm about to say is not because of how deeply rooted that place is in my life. It's half my life. My wife from fifty four and I've called racist there twenty five years whether it's the Gypsy trail of six and a half months in the bay area living in San Francisco, stopping and Grand Island Nebraska to fill in for a guy for five weeks to six weeks at Fonterra Park up to shock copy doo-wop do may to Labor Day here and then do that. Gypsy trout for Five Years Yeah Ninety. which out ninety five, basically to ninety eight I did it this. This is the place that has provided nothing, but goodwill and Randy has shared nothing but goodwill with so many constituents and entities throughout a quarter century that this is not an. I have I have worked at Santa Anita. Hollywood Park del Mar Bay Meadows Racecourse Golden Gate. Fields I've worked at the biggest and the best of the best Seattle slew spectacular bid affirmed. Dr. Through the late, great bill, shoemaker, one of the most famous writers in the history racing, so on and so on. Okay there you know and eighty nineteen eighty I'm thirteen fourteen copyright Dan call and there weren't as many. Things on which to focus obviously in eighty, so mom takes me to Santa. Anita for the Santa Anita Derby there. Fifty five thousand people at Santa Anita Park I, mean there's a reason it was called the sport of Kings, and and you know attendance and stuff like that doesn't necessarily play into that boxing also would kind of be the same way when it comes to what boxing was and what horse racing was, but see those places the. The I'm not saying. Vo Horse racing here is is not necessarily for everybody, first and foremost I. I am very comfortable same. To the majority of the people who come to Canterbury Park, it is for family first festivities. It is an entertainment facility before it is a hardcore racetrack and like I. was saying Randy near the end of con-. True, I mean. Jockey Mike. Smith familiar with Mike. Smith right very much, so yeah I! Mean he? He's one everything. Started at Canterbury. Windows Canterbury downs now he's one of the most prominent writers in the history of horse racing. When he comes back or the biggest trainers, the owners of horses come for stakes, races and stuff they see Minnesota at this race track they see eight to twenty thousand people with blankets, and nor and molly and Eben Stella Yeah and the family I feel correct. That was implemented in nineteen, ninety, five, and here year of our Lord Twenty twenty is still the. The implementation moving forward at and has nothing to do with the money that has gone into the coffers of the state over a quarter century from this racetrack. Yeah, and I'm not I'm not going home or announcer on it with the CD W like advanced deposit wager. Whatever were Canterbury looked to get during these difficult times. Here's the deal for one year. Can People Place bets on Canterbury legally from their homes were? They'll be able to watch. Our races are races. Races are going to be maybe on multiple channels accessible for cable TV G, and some of those other spots. Yeah, TV G. would be one another would be NBC. Sports Network Oh sweet okay NBC Sports Network is picking up certain racetracks and airing races, and taking the analysis from the horse racing general called TV, so it's an option. It's a possibility, but the T to have the the W the in wagering for one spring and one summer not forever not for five. Five years not for a quarter century Ma'am just just one season right you know because of the the social distancing and and I'm not you know circumstances involve may just global pandemic that might allow a business to operate and still connect with its fan base fight a fairness and disclaimer act, because it is right to say I, and Nuoro who enjoys Canterbury Park horse racing mostly for his family and card casino mostly for himself right? You are somebody who enjoys that. A lot of people right now couldn't care less. Yep. Never Been Canterbury. Don't care about horse racing and I. Don't WanNa play, blackjack or three card poker pile coal, the the fight of fairness in disclaimer active is I do recognize, appreciate respect and have remorse for those listening now involved businesses and entities that have shared goodwill and pump money into the state coffers and done so for a long time, yeah, and nine to noon, honestly from the bottom of our hearts recognize you were for the purpose of the conversation. We're talking about this racetrack, which was set to open on Friday and draws about sixty five hundred seven thousand people a day on average. Yeah, okay. Okay, so that that's the essence for the conversation. And I do feel it's not to dismiss the many other businesses having similar conversations in different industries right now about resuming their own lives as well absolutely, but we love. CANTERBURG FIDO fairness in dismissal act. We don't. We are not verbally or mentally dismissing that rat and I'm generally and I think I'm speaking fairly for you here. When when we discuss something like this, we don't feel obligated to be like mister. Mahoney at the loan or so, and so wherever so and so wherever we're not thinking about you were only thinking about what we like. We think the equity of who I am and who we are. I The that people know where the hearts are I hope they do and they know that this is not fixed race radio, where, but but it in fairness corner century of my life of our lives of of you know five to ten years for you. You know with the the money that comes to the that goes to the state and everything. I, mean I. Think it's a very fair conversation and. The the probability with with the like we said out of the gate. Ma'am is is we're good, even though we have our personal opinions, and before, and or after shows we share those personal opinions couple of weeks ago, concract in the purge reading a lot watching a lot of national news listening to a lot. Yeah, and and I got I got at it with him from a Hashtag faith standpoint with the way I the way I look at. And I calmed my producer couple of weeks ago, for whatever the reason home related things stuff like that I started cracking the purge. A little bit took a few days off. Yeah, we're back here, we are, we're we're. We're okay. We're negotiating this and moving through this with our families and together indeed but. I'M NOT GONNA. Lay out a percentage standpoint with this this drive by betting bit but boss did sound I mean this. Is You know with the likes of Jimmy? Pass in some others? Mandy these are. This is twenty five years of Love Friendship Equity and work. Yeah, and an avid here. So so I feel like I know. The tells a little bit and I I think he sounded relatively positive about the potential with the Wi fi at Canterbury something we've always done. This is not new. Con- can go to the racetrack say we got a line of forty people you go see Miss Betsy at the marketing booth. You give her a one hundred dollars that goes. Goes into an on-track account yet. You Bet from your phone, so that's not new. That's a thing yet, and that could be thing if I. If if we get lucky and say we were able to start June them. That would be absolutely incredible, and you did the the fairness in dismissive act or fairness in disclaimer act I'll do the same here from the standpoint that yeah. Yeah. We don't want anybody's lives to be impacted from a health standpoint. We don't want our lives to be impacted from a health standpoint, but we also route for businesses in this case talking about Canterbury Park and many others out there we root for them to have the opportunity to alter the way they do business to continue to exist and continue to connect with customers whether. Whether it be in the entertainment business, the service business all of those things, so we root for businesses to have ideas like this, which Randy and Canterbury and places forced in a weird spot to maybe drive by bedding, or you know having outdoor related events drawing people into the mix to continue to consume something that they truly adore so you know rooting for drive by betting. Rooting for the opportunity eventually of the card room. How does that work all of those things? Those are the things that we root for and for me. It's kind of an idealistic standpoint, PA. I trust that businesses know the answer to their industries, and their businesses were, they can construct plans to not only keep customers safe, but continue to offer the great things that they do. That's the idealism. A my things I believe that businesses should be given some of that personal responsibility and the opportunity to prove it and prove the opportunity that customers should have to patronize their businesses again. So you know the fairness in health comes first no doubt about it disclaimer. disclaimer act as we always need to do apparently every five minutes when we discuss things like this, which is dumb, I mean, but whatever exactly, but ultimately as we come together, just hearing the conversation you had with Randy and hearing you know a guy that I've always seen at Canterbury as being jovial and just watching him navigate the crowd. Just see you mentioned the family environment. All of those things that he is held build over the last twenty five years. And hearing kind of Moreau's nature to this process, because he wants people to get healthy, he wants people to be safe, and he wants to continue offering the great stuff he does A. Canterbury has for a long time so rooting for him, and if that means by betting where I gotTa, roll up I got some chicken nuggets with Avon Stella the back seat, but I've got a good vibe on a super factor or pick four on a Thursday afternoon. Yeah, I WANNA be able to bet on it. Yeah, and if I can't do that from my couch, I'm GONNA, drive down! Thank God for Gas. Prices Right now I. Guess I'M GONNA drive down to shock Capri and. Through there and We! Don't know about serving beer people in cars, but we'll find that out. He says may from a legal standpoint if we push through and you get stuff like that. And it's legal, and it's legit to do, and what I'm about to say may not be legal, and if it's not all, no, it's not and I won't do it right. I'm good I will give the days. I'm calling racists. They're beginning. Say June temp, June temp, right, which is the Wednesday and boss said Sampson President. Canterbury said you know we might be a Monday through Thursday. No idea what time we would start, but it would be like eight to ten races, or whatever probably to know fans, why five via bet, Canterbury dot com stretches out to the parking lot, which is our property so that that's everything we're talking about now and I might call it. The Canterbury Concrete Covenant Boo which we may get into more next segment, but. It. Here's what I do. I'll be there every day. Okay, yeah, misses something for what I would do for you anytime now again. I'm not saying I'm going to do it. Those of you look into you know, put your. Looking to finger the announcer, and and getting five to ten hard time at Alcatraz. I'm spitballing. Days. Way Race I will give my cell phone out on the radio and I will say text me when you WANNA wager. Average. I tax the announcer. It can't be lethal fifty dollars spy now. Maybe it's illegal if it's over state lines. You go to seven to you and I would never do this me being in the seven Ocho. PA The mariners are nationally televised at nine forty tonight and I'm laying back at my spot. I got nothing to do and you're in the seven. Oh two got big feeling on the total. You put one hundred on the under seven and a half for me. Why never would do that? Because absolute because across state lines direct, but this will be like in this event I mean. Yeah, so that'd be okay and every number that comes in with a non six, one, two, nine, five, two, or seven, six three. You're out to one eight, two, one, eight and playwright, two, one, eight, three, two, three, two, three, two thousand APP, welcome Wednesday, nine to noon three to zero. It's your day I perfect on me six one Jew. Become. Do Cash, thing and more fun a backdoor Leonardo. Da Every hour, a new chance to win a thousand dollars, just by listening to the fan and nine to noon, and I like this one. The eleven am. Our Keyword is calm. Text calm to two hundred two hundred texts calm to two hundred, two hundred. Thousand dollar piece of bills with it calm texted to two hundred two hundred text message and. Thanks to our friends, a quick trip bringing you portions of nine to noon. Nine to noon. Paul Allen. Time for two more. Probably Law. Canterbury concrete covenant. The. The the the Wifi in the building is good I, mean, Bet Canterbury Dot com has been something. You know pre-shutdown pre purge when? Fans or people will come to Canterbury that don't want to deal with lines. Yeah, they they deposit money with Ms Betsy or whomever, and and you. Obviously you know you get that money back if you win or if you have a balance at the end of the day, but to do so you the Wi fi you need. With all due respect to the entity that brought me here year of our Lord Nineteen Ninety Five. Our WIFI. We probably got a boost. That Maga little bit. So first suggestion is I wasn't gonNA. Say Anything Call Wester. Bagley with the Minnesota Vikings yes, because I must have gone a year without hearing lester on or off the microphone. Pro Fasts. How proud he and the team were and the roots to whatever happened with the Wi fi, they got at US Bank stadium, which is really good on believable all with seventy thousand people in there with the fans, and then you add the cons and the coaches and the players and everything we got. We got more than seventy thousand in there right? Yes, and the wildfires good so boss. Call Lester back link. And, maybe in the purge we can get a discount you know may maybe maybe they're shutdown savings to be had to extend that Wi fi within our property, and we have vast property, absolutely or South East and West with the Palatial Pony Paradise. Right in the Middle Right, so we got a call Lester. We gotta jump on that wildfire I think that first and foremost within the Canterbury Concrete Covenant Yeah I absolutely do and I'm I'm actually I'm looking at the gaming tables, because there's a lot of different angles that we can look at and and me. You know I like the Family Element of Canterbury Park, because I'm not guy. That's hard core slapping the newspaper come on four horse. Come on, come on. Dammit and then I'm in the parking lot. Pulling up used betting slips hoping that I found somebody's discarded winter. Yeah, I like the family element to it and I like the gaming table side of things so while molly and Eva and seller or watching the ponies. How about this? Big Screens. Outside? Oh, yeah, it's a video cast of a dealer inside. At a blackjack table of her, you being serious, or are we in Canterbury, concrete governor bit mode here I'm half bid half real I'm with you all I in the purge. Accept any idea, so ideas are applicable in the perk. Thank you. There's big screens outside and on the inside. It's video cast of an actual dealer purse inside at Canterbury Park. Outside while social distancing around these big screens, there are five spots and people are wearing masks and gloves and such and your social distancing. You're six feet apart. Yeah, but then there is a person outside with the ability to exchange cash for chips, and you are actually playing blackjack from outside while you are social freaky distance. And given the expansive space, I love that you are six feet away from your fellow players. You have people out there exchanging cash. One's ever breathing or coughing on cards. You're outdoors the mitigation of the spread itself, and because of the expanse of space. Yeah, you have the ability to put up eight to ten tables in one spot so now you have forty to fifty people playing table games at any point in time so from Canterbury Concrete Covenant standpoint yeah the idea. Idea of getting you in the doors without physically walking in the doors. Yeah, let's get some video cast live, not virtual. No video poker screw all that I want live video cast of dealers working indoors safe. I don't mind out of mind that and I like it and I thought you were in bit mode, but we'll know my bit mode was going to be. Make sense is since the hotel is a hotel. A Beautiful Hotel at appears to be out structed. Behind the main parking. For Canterbury Park and I was thinking family day. You can bring the camels out. You can do face painting. Obviously, there are things you absolutely can do outside. Why not just? Let the kids play on the construction equipment I always loved that one. Why don't we construct a like a in the? Let's say. North West side of the parking lot. Constructive, big yellow building and sell pop rocks will be open tomorrow I always probably printing money and pop and tags. Absolutely and I mean he got the candy. You gotta be. Loved that say the Candy I mean the the the candy I mean. It's so good for your body. Yes, you know, and it's so. It's so nutritious that maybe we do that. And that's step one. Then we get with. We get with Leicester Bagley. E gives us the secrets to the WI FI at us. Bank stadium, which by the way that Fi us bank stadium may be in use right now. Correct so if there's a router or whatever route or Tan who is still that passwords routers place. Maybe we can use them for three weeks. Oh there, we go just to get going. It's what I'm saying. Friends making friends businesses helping businesses in the perk tailgating aspect I. I'm serious about this and I love it, too. Yes, you know you get it, so people can come to Canterbury new Canterbury Park. Tentatively or excuse me was supposed to open for live racing Friday. Dead Shutdown Central Park pandemic purge pandemic ponies, so the track offered up a new suggestion for potential race dates beginning Wednesday, June tenth most likely to know fans Canterbury. President Randy Sampson. You can listen back to it. started now ago. I didn't like the NFL. He didn't dagger it right. It's like like seriously. NHL and NBA I mean I don't care that. That silver and or Batman or not coming out, saying there's no chance were doing anything to close the League freak. Ll Season Yeah Nineteen and twenty Micah seriously. I mean like they're really going to get closure to those seasons. I think it's a super long. Don't you impossible to have any of that? At this stage one way or the other? But you're right I, mean the the chances of it happening longshots the right way to. Come out and say you know ninety nine percent, no fans June Tan, but let's say whatever percent no fans June ten so therefore the potential for drive by speculation and spotting up is in the area surrounding Canterbury via bet. Canterbury Dot Com something that we've had on track for many many years so I can go to. Did you say her name was betsy now so I can go to betsy on site and let's say in this case. She's outside now. She's got like. Like like lemonade. Stand only it's a Kashdan and it's got to be eliminates to. Hopefully she has lemonade because I'll be thirsty. I give her two hundred dollars, and then I have my bet. Canterbury Account I walked back to my car. Now I'm not only able to listen or watch via data and the upgraded Wi fi that we've gotten overnight, but the Canterbury Canterbury I can place those wagers once I given betsy, the cat, and if if we somehow put screen or screens. And Stan flips the speaker, so they're not basing trackside. They're facing the other way. Then you can hear the call yet or on your phone. Canterbury Park, dot com you could probably watch it live myriad sites where you can watch the race close to live, so that would take care of that, but the tailgate aspect of it, specifically in a tailgating kind of state like this where people like to hang out. They want the grill. They WANNA do respectfully. Responsibly might be the right way to look at it, but I'm gonNA use the word respectfully, and they're of course, our people to monitor it and their state representatives track representatives health represent whatever to make sure it's all copacetic yet, but see I think that could be a legitimate thing during the purge the the tailgating aspect of it or you know on in Brooklyn Park now say you're in Plymouth in x amount of months you. You legitimately could roll up and make bet or bet saw leave because you did illegally and watch them at home rack on Marietta. They're married routes to watch them. As long as there were, no fans allowed inside Canterbury Park. Now. I can't speak for anybody. I'm speaking as producer of nine to noon. Who is a sports fan and wants the ability to appreciate it in one way or another soon as soon as freaking possible. I'd pay anywhere from twenty five dollars up to let's say forty dollars for a parking spot. And so in the Canterbury parking lot. Okay, and now I'm dead freaking serious about this, because unless lester comes through, you probably need a spot. Close to the track correct. That's four hundred spot now, but yeah I mean I can't i. I'm not paying four hundred, but what I'm saying is the Oracle. Would Max's credit card for the Best Wifi spot? Oh, absolutely he would, but that's also. We're talking about the Oracle now professional suits. They're good. Point the the cool thing about a parking lot and those white lines. That's natural social distancing measures themselves. What you do is which means power to the people requires you to be respectful, and it's every other spot is on sale for twenty five to forty dollars on race days. You Go you pay the twenty five bucks you come in. You get whether it's the betting slip. It's the voucher. All of this was done and I go and park, and now I got Wi fi I got caching. Betsy hand and I got a full account on bet. Canterbury Dot Com. Yeah, I got my own spot. Maybe I bring my own beverages, or there are other things in the. The Mix and maybe would-be legal, on Canterbury, Park property to have beer, beer, car, guy, or Gal with a giant tub of beverages, and he can just roll on through. He's got section. A Bob's got section beat out Sally's got sections e in the back, which L. because it's so far away now the the ability to pay twenty five bucks, which is cashing Canterbury's pocket, which I want for a business that I love to stay open and I can bet on the races I i. it's just an absolute win. family first reputation with this race track what about enclosing finding away to jettison? If only during its the purge, yeah, okay families I kids first and that Covenant Children Covenant First and foremost all the time GonNa. Get a witness, I Louis during the purge, you might have to jazz. Jettison it for a minute I. mean the the playground and the petting zoo, and the Free Pony Rides and face painting probably ain't GonNa work true. Strippers now he's loved that now here. Obviously not breaking the law in public. Okay, what are they doing? How broker they? You kidding me, I mean when things are. Industry is going to be hit. Hard things start slowly opening chat I. Tell You some things that will not be slowly opening. They're probably GONNA. Wait out this purge. So dancers dancers with masks. Planet Hollywood when they're trying to distract you. Excuse me when you're playing blackjack. Oh yeah, there's some Gallup on a table. Okay, so is she wearing a mask and gloves? Yes. think about a mask and gloves, so there's a nurse state, yeah, and male strippers to okay Well Yeah, males can be nurses. Emails can be strips. Fairness and women act male male stripper male strippers. What we mean and they're all hotline hero Sanwa's male strippers. Cash. Well Price. Comparing between. Thunder down under and the and the Colt in the third race number two. Hey, if I got slip twenty and John's Thong to keep the train moving. I'm okay with that. That's like nine to noon final say. I can't wait until the. BATHROOM SITUATION IN THE PARKING LOT, yeah! The. Producer Nordahl Matt producer. Conte Angelo Nortel juice box in for fifteen minutes stink. He. Fielded a Bevy of phone calls, yeah during. Between segments during the break about and the majority of them were. What do you do about bathrooms what? It Fair question you know with the with the Canterbury concrete government June Tam proposed. As of today, according to the racetrack, which was supposed to open on Friday, that's dad. Card, casino still dead the the President Randy Sampson on an hour and change ago, said June temp, which is a Wednesday Canterbury may begin a Monday through Thursday schedule of some sort. Yeah, with you know could be no fans. the a W. Bet you know obviously not enough pop rocks in. The the wasn't the Twi- slur of the day, so therefore, the eighty w guy shot down as charge made his trip for the lion bar yet. Right, no live, Barnes. I mean seriously. What more nutritious could you put in your body than alliance Bar a Lion Bar? But but anyway with all that said you know there there is an opportunity or chance canterbury in shock choppy has drive up betty. That's the way it's described now in in the in the infancy of the concept. Yeah, and that doesn't necessarily mean K. H.. A. N. sapped concept by the producer, but he's amplifying it. It's something on which the race track is working, and it it could be something that comes through for wishing for those in state to be able to legally wager on races taking place at at at a facility with no fans so with the canterbury concrete. we have ascertained Lester Bagley. who had a lot to do with us? Bank Stadium and Y five. We gotta with him. Bolster that why tailgating legitimately is a thing. make make legal legal wagers head home and watch. If you're interested, sell parking spot slips like boat slips, so those can get closer to the facility with the white by family first reputation rear view mirror of only for a summer We can jettison that because it's the purge shutdown central, the producer Nardo He wondered if masks and gloves adding male strippers, we would call it thunder down under, and then we would do like an in-between game a Rochambeau war right as you suggested with that with with facets of that thunder down under. Some of the male colts, yes, racing that day at Canterbury, and that might be something on which on what you can bet. We don't now. Yeah, and the big part about this too I. Another disclaimer since we are in a disclaimer world now I think people should be able to have their pop rocks, and they're lying bar and should be able to also make legal wagers on horse races from there. Catch I'd like didn't have all of those Sam's. And so in this particular purge their power for the people copyright the Oj I i. want some power back in the hands of of our people that is accurate, but the the fans room the bathroom situation is the only thing. It's the perjure on your own. That's in our way well. Well, we're not I mean. I don't know do do we think this would be a deal? where the Lissa the oracle whomever con? Sit there for hours. I mean probably not so you. Of course porta-pottys, you want become essential, so you can play daily devils right so you're going to need a fema card, and after avoid the machine-gun-toting individual like we do here. Yes, just to get in and do our jobs, so you WANNA be essential. PORTA potties Porta potty cleanup God. Okay, that's the first step. Yeah, well, there is because you know. I. Don't want people on their own. One of the greatest advances in all of human history was the simple concept of just keeping humans away from. I mean just getting that away from our homes. In some cases more importantly, the drinking water, so you know it's an important factor and needs to be taught him because with Avon Stella on there for an hour and a half to two hours of Max Yep. Because there's going to be potty breaks, there's going to be mood swings and annoying toddler `ISMs, but they're also is going to be a big playstation jungle gym. Thing right up, re pony rides. Rides face painting all that which you may not have for the baby girl. Yeah, but when kids gotta go, they gotta go when I go. I can go. Yeah, yeah, it's all right. I'll wait an hour. Okay, kids don't do that. Yeah, so that's that's the thing and if I was to go on my own, because now they're doing. The video cast table games. Yeah, from inside to outside and I'm six feet away from my fellow players yeah. I could see myself there for four hours if I had a couple of hot shoes. Boeing need to build about and I'm up a mortgage payment I need importer pot. Know the only chance we have here. For this June temp. Is We need to construct a giant yellow building in the southwest corner of Canterbury Park? Yes, have urinals have toilets that are always clean and sanitized right sell pop rocks and I think we got a shot so I I i. think that and I bet you they're enlarge. Supply right now because there aren't a lot of live concerts and some things going on. The festival industry you WanNa talk about somebody that's getting ruined right now. The outlook of that this summer there will be porta-pottys available. Let's get a long line of those things. And maybe you know. Let's separate the the the beautiful. The the women, the the beautiful creatures from the Heathens, guys side of things and you can separate. Those people can use the restroom now elongate their time on track on property. Join Beverages making legal wagers. Playing video casts table. Gay I will sign a waiver because I would wanNA. Come down, give an I will be. I will be calling the races to know fans on the grants damn. But we need the cartoon in the mix. Cartoons got to be there well, there needs to be the a stage. A mask gloves a megaphone and I and I'm. It's carnival barking terrorism and I will be there to do it, and quite honestly if this gets pushed through and the Canterbury concrete covenant comes to fruition. I will sign a waiver that I promise to not lick my finger and touch your arm and I will not request to touch your eye. For the entire day, and for weeks and months, and for years, and and I won't say to Dan Guerrero. Do you WANNA smell my finger? So you commit to not do it commit. contractually to intentionally not make other people uncomfortable doubt, okay I will bomb on on fist bumps, but it's got gotta be an inch apart. Man Just it's virtual, and then the virtual spunk air bumpy. So, anyway man we'll see. We'll see how this develops. We we. We had microphones on door slammed. Cool we We never came to a conclusion on the fact of people learning to listen or excuse me the the offensive rookie of the year in the odds and Hollywood. Spot up, which is good news. Because we have tomorrow, yes, we do had to nine am l.. Yeah, we got that we got not. You'll labor and. And we can finalize that because with the mythical one thousand. I. Know what I would want to do with my grand. Yeah, you know off this and Siaka. Bring this up again. Friday with charge in quickfire fashion. Yeah! because we didn't really get in depth into the names like Jerry Judy in Denver JK Dobbins in Baltimore camakers with the Rams and like how they bet. We do that with charge, but I'll I'll share my spot up with you tomorrow. I would imagine you'll do the same absolutely. Thank you for today. Have a good day you to eric. NORQUIST's produces nine to noon and I'm Paul Allen from the Brian Heating and Cooling Studios at FM One Hundred Point Three K N by. Nine to new. Time for two more. A. 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"Dan. As far back as I can remember I always wanted to be a gangster. The construction of the dream. April, how you doing. UPA You either. been. Jerk. Shall we begin? Radio? Nine. would. Soon. Mad, she told myself I'd get back down the. Massaro's of fun into Mars Canada. That just had. Nine to noon radio. Smiles and the way. This is a baseball thing. She. she? What? By. Fast Ball fake. This whole thing back on its feet again. Or we set the crash drains. Radio on a Thursday. Welcome to the loved Covenant Paul Allen from the Brian, heating and Coleen Studios. The Covenant Crusade is underway Good Morning. Hashtag Faith Family Eric Nordquist mad producer one on twitter. He produces nine to noon, a cavalcade of guests joining nine to noon today as part of the timber tax. WHAT'S ON DECK SET LIST? Courtesy of Timber Jack Dot Com. Are they back. Are they. Back Here I am an ear they are. Back on their feet again, right? Are Are we to believe by fastball fe. It may be happening. Can we cast our gaze. The way of watching Baseball Games that count. At a time A-. Like July Tam. We interview players and coaches from wild training camp two point Oh. into the Disney bubble. Where Lebron walks around with a crown as the self proclaimed king. And Donovan Mitchell. Punches Rudy Gobert in the face. Forgiving Him Corona virus. The the Covenant Crusade. Is Underway Ladies and gentlemen. The producer Norio. Got Me very excited yesterday with a text message. Between races on which I was betting at Canterbury Parkin races on which I was losing at Canterbury Park. So it was the texting version of. Basketball Eighth. You got me very excited. Yesterday Mr Nardo with that baseball taxed. What's the latest? And Good Morning. You know it seems like. In the purge that every great thing that happens is almost immediately stomped on by something. That's negative, but I want to start with the positive is the John Hayman Hayman. Hayman tweeting yesterday that the The Guy, who played for the capture played for the caps. His last name is summoned. Alexander semin Zaman. by the way. You didn't say good morning. Good Morning Aw. He tweeted that the. Major League Baseball owners and the Players Association. We're on the cusp of. Getting a deal and playing games again. Yeah, that deal. Was An offer presented by the owners side of things commissioner Rob Manfred. Sixty game season that would start on July, nineteenth or twenty. Sixty game. Who S? So they got a rush away, they gotta get to Spring Training version, two point pretty quick. It would end September twenty seven. July nineteenth the resumption of live free. Players would be oh, really sweet. I think you need it. Absolutely for? I know I need it nine play? Some players would be paid their full pro rated salaries. A total of one point five billion dollars, and that's about thirty seven percent of their full season salaries. They receive another twenty five million for postseason play. Yeah, and then on the backside. If you remember in March, there was a one hundred seventy million dollar advance that the owners made to the players. And thirty, three million, or so of that would be forgiven. We're sitting there. BEGGING FOR PEOPLE TO BET CANTERBURY DOT COM from the parking lot, and they're cutting up seven hundred, fifty million at correct copyright. Louis Armstrong. What a wonderful world which inherently is probably why this has drawn much higher R- from the fan base yes has drawn I. R- just a little bit. I think terms of how fans are wondering why owners and players can come together on a plant. We're going to find out about that. was emails coming up later in the radio? Show down, memory lane. We. Absolutely will explore expansion of postseason, so the ten teams with two wildcards that are in there now they would expand that to sixteen zone additional three playoff teams, not just for twenty twenty, but twenty twenty one. More playoff baseball to compliment that fat deal the League signed with Turner. there might be some sort of. Dedicated the play eight. Players are like you decide to deal with Turner Yeah. Can we see that all? What's redacted? Come us that sharpie over the the number for the deal. And why didn't you tell us though I can see a couple of commas and a decimal point? For some reason you block those numbers out. And and so the idea was yesterday. Hey, this is getting real traction. This is something that's going to happen you. Simply the tax right after I got bounced out of the pick five a negative, and then you pumped me off and then by Fastball, faith I think we have a change. I think we. I think we did have a change and we're going to get a deal and we're going to play baseball in Amman in a month. Yeah! Union Leader Tony Clark. Major League Baseball Players Association guy like him. I like him a lot too good player. And less than an hour after hyman Hayman. Said C.`Mon Sixty game season this that and the other thing. We're all GONNA party. Let's get the champagne. Go I once out of boss name Dan Salmon Oh. You did Erica boss. Big Opportunity with E. biking, radio, network. The Union tweets. Reports of an agreement. Our fault. Them. After. You sold by fastball faith to me. The the tax that. Forty five minutes our. That's fastball. Faith is leaving us right now. This is as close as they have ever bad the clock. A hand on the clock. CanNot even circumnavigate or take the circuitous route from top. Atop without somebody messing up. The fastball faith with the freaking changeup. Yeah, you got vida on chalk on about two races. In the time. It took my God for. Pain to put this out. The Union to say. So once again we are in a state of. Faith radio where we are begging for baseball, and now the positives to this from everything that I've seen since last night. You gotTA. Lot is that. Where they've been before in terms of the various offers. This is by far the closest from an owner standpoint to appeal to the players now players want more games. They're playing. They don't understand why sixty games and seventy days between mid July and the end of September wire there ten days I. Don't think we get ten off days. In one hundred sixty two game season got so. What's up with that, so they're trying to figure out how to get there, someone. Someone proposed sixty four or sixty five games and kind of laid out the various ways that you can work with visual matchups, and even things out that way. Okay, so they are now pondering a revision to the sixty game idea and here we are yet again by fastball faith, just begging owners and players to agree on a freaking deal and play the sport. We are begging to watch live action of. Got Saturday's sauces. Wait I. Got Saturdays with sauce man? Maybe drive down to diamond. Joe's and plunk down some money at that table, and just like forget about fastball faith well. The show doesn't start until noon. I don't think the dice table of ten. I think it opens while we'll figure that trust. We'll figure that out those dyson. The air and wave are cast like we just don't care. How much have you wanted just to be able to go down to diamond JOE's. All those dyson the air. And the stick man, the stick man is now. Because, he's not only got the stick handling the long reach bats and the dice themselves. Yeah, he has to spray the dice midflight. Every single time and he's got. He's got to be spending the last two months practicing no doubt because you can't miss and you can't interrupt the play and the sanctity of the game of craps, but what if what, if said spray that ninety nine point nine percent thing and it's like clorox hydrogen peroxide in the misfires with his spray goes like sue Yoshie Nishioka on it, and it gets in. Somebody's I. That would be a good thing. Because then it would become diamond Paul's. That would be a very good thing. Cup of coffee became a starbucks that day down in Iowa. Excuse me Sir. Can you shoot me in the eye with hydrogen peroxide and then Lick your finger and put it in my just in case. I got my lawyer on hold. Lick your finger, please and touch my body so by fastball faith, and and we know there's also the the you know. Inherent of some sort of mythical I shouldn't say it's mythical, but the process the process of understanding what the future of a second wave looks like all those things. But again the key is you think of medical? There's a deal on the table I shouldn't have said mythical. Now I'm going to get to. that. Advocate won't play blackjack and Canterbury because you refuse to wear a mask anywhere. and. That started march eighteenth I wear I. Wear my mass when I'm supposed to wear my mouth I know you do fastball faith deal on the table. Get something freaking done I think. I think this evening or late afternoon this evening. When I'm calling races Canterbury I think between races, I'm going to go to the parking lot and make some bets via Bet Canterbury Dot. com just do I liked that those in their cars feeling like inclusion have we tested the Wi fi out in the parking lot? And wrote to get a little dicey. Because you have the you have the handicap spaces upfront obviously were in any public place. They are a sir. Wi is okay there now I never get the second or third row I'm stuck back in like h by the by the new hotel. That's going up. Yeah, why five ain't working back there? Yeah? I'm worried about the second wave of losing in July. Just like I'm starting, I'm consulting Dr Felt you to get into his crystal ball. Look into July and tell me how much I'M GONNA lose. So I can start planning for it in June well baseball's planning on it right now, so maybe you should do. The sank the Covenant Crusade Is Underway Ladies and Gentlemen Good Morning. Seems seems from afar. The player side. And if I'm overstating this booth that, KFA dot, com, we got booth kfi dot, con, if he verbally wants to jump into the microphone and say I ain't right, which is all good seems from afar the players side has obliterated the owner side especially when the boss the leader, the commissioner says day unequivocally, baseball is back maybe soon. It's a one hundred percent her then five days later crashes dreams. So why? Analyzing this from afar, it just seems like the players side from a public perception standpoint, and not making grandiose claims seems like the player side is obliterating Artie Marino and the rest of the owners they are, but ultimately that doesn't matter like I was thinking about as we were talking about. The players have been more consistent. The players have been more I guess transparent about the specific things they want, and how they want to get it done. Ultimately, the the shadow in this argument is is laying over the financials of Major League Baseball. Yeah, the inconsistency and Kinda the scattergun approach. They've used in terms of excuses. On why they're limiting games, limiting access for players to give back onto the field, yeah. Whether it be. We had never talked about the second way before, but now that's the thing The players have never balked at any health protocols, but now we're saying that they won't come to the table on it. Like just the various ways. The owners have handled things from money. you know respecting the health situation all that I think they've been awful at it. However, that none of that matters because as a fan base, you know not only. Despite the players doing their thing, and in some ways being righteous while doing so. They're not playing, so the players are getting victimized by their own nobility in some respects because they're gonNA. They're losing out on play chat paychecks every day that they're not playing. And this is going to affect Labor negotiations at the end of two thousand, twenty one, and it's going to affect you know whatever fat deal they signed with Turner Not Playing Games and two thousand twenty can affect the situation regarding that and so ultimately, and then the fan base who are getting more and more mad, and whether they're maddest at the players of the owners. They're just not interested in giving their hard earned cash to the sport right so I think that the players have done it the right way unfortunately. Still Loses so get a freaking deal together. That's the basics of it for me. The nine to noon radio show with a set list that includes Cope I. Mean Commissioner. Don Lucia covent catch up with the dawn about twenty five minutes from now don. Lucia nine to noon commissioner. C. C.. C. C. H. A. C. H. SEC Jay. The DON is a commissioner. Looking forward to the covenant, catch up with him at nine four zero Nacho Libre in studio Tan Johnny Athletic About Ten, thirty five. We have a Kubiak. Covenant today and we love when we get the opportunity to replace him stuff from Vikings Dot Com right vikings dot COM VIKINGS DOT COM, Corso, the N, all twenty two on the Zoom Yup Brian Harper all twenty two on Zoom Lionel Richie singing, zoom everybody God. Bless you and thank you. For the Audio version of the Kubiak Covenant, because he says some pertinent things about some offensive players for our favorite team that are worthy of no pine or nine That's part of the nine to noon radio. Show today the off the. Off the. What some would say boondoggle. Between MLB MLB. There's a sneaky little side dish over there on the side like nobody wants to touch. We address that and continued the Covenant Crusade around the Corner with me while him and my mad producer at Kfi am. Stay healthy. What are we doing here with the sad music trying to depress me more than I am right now. You. I like sad music and I'm I'm of the? Dark and slow introspective. Variety. Yeah, do you ever? Do you. Think the I know the answer is now. Have you. Why don't you give it to pretend? This Latin now right now and learn. More. At so sentimental! Oh, this is my. Looking into this system closing my eyes throwing a little bit, I like it. I mean the options on this particular page resume. Lisa Loeb and the bit over thousand Lisa, Loeb Oh you've heard Lisa Lisa loads in my musical mix. No, it's not in the song. System lit my own worst enemy. Lips and co I could've gone funky town. I really could've but this time I went. What Lionel Richie you take me to Punky? On the drive in this morning or whatever the reason of course, when the power trip went to break. I found a channel and I listened to in succession. To Frank Sinatra songs sweep a Louis Armstrong Song, nice and A song by a lady named Rosemary Clooney. And one by Steve Lawrence Louis Armstrong a plane, the trumpet, and those listening that play brass instruments. They probably know this like you. Don't get our plight. Louis Armstrong. Lips and all of a sudden. You're trying to make yourself sound like doc, severinsen. Over blowing a Kazoo. Hey, you know our pianist. The pianist in the building Sir Leonard Diker Land Yeah. diker you know, even though so he's the Bugler a canterbury. Yes, and I've known Sir Leonard Diker for quite some time, just a very very wonderful kind gentleman, he I've seen him blow the horn and I've seen the way his lips wrap around the contraption on the Horn and how we maneuvers lips to get that sound, so I ain't exactly all the way back. Back by Kazoo I got you not I Louis Armstrong Miles Davis or mile spires, but I'm not like I. Just pulled it Kazoo out of a cracker, Jack Box and boy. What's this sound? I just heard this sound for the first time in my life, he had to use a razor blade to scar tissue off his lips because of his aggressive playing style. He damaged his inner mouth around his lips so badly he had to take nearly a year off from plane one TA so apparently Oh. If you're an aggressive bugler, he went player L. for a year. He was on the shelf like if it's a pro sports injury report, it's out lip. Yeah, but he didn't go to. Whatever the Nineteen Thirties version of Tria or you know T- CEO when Cities Orthopedics just even the resident physician He went into the bathroom. Go see Dr. David Olson fixes lips absolutely, he got a razor blade and sat in the mirror, and the way that you would trim your facial hair. He trimmed scar tissue off his lips so that he could continue. Being God's gift. To Music Alone Norberto, well with Rosemary Clooney and Steve Lawrence and Sinatra and all that Oh. Yeah, I, mean I. I I respect that Genre of music. The the just you know old schoolers new schoolers Frank Sinatra Dean Martin Joey Bishop US Sammy. Davis Junior listen RATPAC. Yeah the rat pack with the Black Tuxedos in the white shirt, and the and the the boat, the black bow tie, and and the the Douglas and todd or whatever in the in the glass. When did. Come Vegas snap in on their singing along like that man. It was fun I. Mean Because I picked your old like the rat pack for me again. I'm only thirty five, so the rat pack for me. Is What Old Vegas was yeah. Of shows and lounge, five little bit of gambling, obviously, but man there, there are myriad down memory lane. We can go off what you just said. some with yours truly some just like what like in Vegas Ma'am I mean when? The, first time while not the first time I went to Vegas but my. My stepfather. took me to las. Vegas along with my late mom and some people within my covenant, including my brother Kenny for my twenty first birthday. And? There was a hotel casino named Stardust. Yes, there used to be started so like I think that would have been on the Fremont area. Right downtown area almost so like you're heading. Whatever way on Las Vegas trip towards downtown, and before you get to what used to be Bob Stupak diseased Vegas world, and like excalibur with all the dirty toys there was stardust and Stardust was vegas immortality. Some Vegas immortality that no longer is there. What would include Stardust Sands? Dunes Planet Hollywood used to be something called Aladdin. And you know they they were they were. Imploded and the new properties than new properties popped up, but I mean stardust man that was rat pack while and you know back back in the day, so like my twenty first birthday. Is My family took me to LAS, Vegas or familiar with a comedian named Don rickles. I am yeah okay well my My Dad took me to a don. rickles show greased the grace, the concierge whatever he graced him, and we got up close to the stage, so then I had it was either hay fever or I had a cold. I WAS NOT WEARING A. A Mask uh-huh and somebody's exist in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, seven, and I was shaking hands, and undoubtedly embracing people, but not the ladies who are provided the of those little carts. So that's what life was like that. Okay, so just remember. I had allergies or some type of a cold, so I was congested, so there was part of the show were Don rickles. Invited people to the stage while so I put my hand up and I get to go on the stage with four or five others, and were lined up on the stage at the Stardust and I. Don't meet of their Mandla. Say Two fifty. Wow It depends on what the Nevada executive order wasn't nineteen eighty seven might have been two fifty, and they might have sneaked in twelve more, but didn't tell the the governor of the state, so you get it. It wasn't massive, but it was some hundreds of people or whatever, yeah, so I'm in that line on the stage, and Don rickles cracking wise and doing his jokes and everything wasn't as dirty as Richard Pryor. George Carlin, but he had an edgy side to him. So, he tells a joke. And I can't exactly remember what the joke was, but it. It caused me to laugh, but I tried to hold in my laugh. So hide the women and children with this, and hopefully have already gone too quick trip to get to get your breakfast food or just plug your ears so I I hold it and somehow. I'm going to say a however. You would describe it of Snot. came out of my nose about seven inches down at that time I only had one gym so just envision where my third, and is now somewhere between my third Shan and my collarbone, and then I went. And sucked it back up. And rickles sought, and he was because he show I mean Don rickles got show, so he's not just going to step on the touchdown. Call right there. The mind is machinating. Down at me gives a look to the crowd because the crowd sought like a look of like. Apple. And then looked back at me and said Kid. If you can do that five days a week, you'll never work again. I always love that one. That's Vegas because now Vegas is. Your. You weren't working here. When common was running? What I thought was a really funny, good bit for Awhile about music in Abercrombie Fitch. Oh, yeah, in the star side. It's unbelievable loud, and you're trying to cut a deal on some skinny jeans, and they walked through sprain whatever sent it off. Yeah, and I mean the lights how you're trying to put clothes on in the dark, but it was the music that was so loud in Abercrombie Fitch Yeah that you know he's trying to cut a deal on some skinny jeans, and you can't talk to the the the representative you know you were. You were probably a foot away because when the bit was taking place. More than x amount of people in responsible fashion could go places, and the social distance was not a term. Yeah, so he he. He just did a really good bit for a while about you know. He played the music super loud. Be Trying to talk about these skinny jeans. Good bit how that ties into Vegas and Vegas now is Vegas is loud. Las Vegas has become. Wow, it has and loud with with know whether it's the. Boom Boom Boom Boom boom the techno beat from the clubs. Yeah, or your girls, not your girls in your babies, but your girls dancing on those bits or somebody's Vevey site I'm not playing blackjack there because I'm not. I get what you're doing here yet. You think you're clever. Not as coy as me. I'm not going to sit there and stare at those girls and. Hit Thirteen when you're showing exits knocked GONNA work but. The distraction factor in the noise in just the. The. What what what kind of trendy? Shirt affliction, or like that hype of wear you know button down to the middle of the chest, and you know it's those people now more sow than a little tinge of the gangster. Lane Yeah Las Vegas. When I started going in the eighties, it was nearing the end of the of the era that had the gangster lane, which began with Bugsy Siegel and when you drive into vegas past what used to be stardust and you get downtown with Fremont and four Queens. Queens and and era and horseshoe everything binion's and all those unions binion's is gangster Lean Vegas immortality and that so that's that's the answer to your question. Yeah is that I mean it's pure. I mean it's purely hedonistic. Now I mean it is just consumer consumed consumed, Doodoo, drink, drink, drink, gamble, gamble gamble. Yeah, yeah, and and sake ends bitch out whether it's hedonism or whether it's rap pack. It just had more of a gangster, lean kind of an intimacy type deal guy. Oh. You know that that's why I like to play. bought grabs early in the morning. Because it's, it's nice and chill and and it's not super loud, right you better chance to win hanging out by the elevators. of those are the slot machines now a man who undoubtedly does not hang out by slot machines, and as a born leader. His name is Don Lucia. Lucia. He's a commissioner was due a covenant. Catch up with the dawn next. It's nine to noon and let's get to profile by Sanford. Profile Plan Dot Com is the website profile plan dot com. It's weight loss program developed by doctors and scientists at Sanford. Health and it worked for me. It's worked for several in the building whether it'd be Paul Fletcher over at Cities Ninety Seven. 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If I did so get to profile plan, dot, com or more? Don, Lucia. Is Hockey coaching immortality in the state of Minnesota. Tape outsider. On that a tip? A Dawn Paul Allen how you Ben I'm good. How are you today? Fall Dom doing okay. Thank you for asking Don Leukemia I with the Covenant Catch. Up Nine to noon nine forty-five. It's it's forever coach Lucia, but now it's C. C. H. A. Commissioner Don Lucia congratulations, and that sounds pretty cool. Place Pawn I'm really looking forward to you. Know the old adage. You GotTa give back at Hockey's been very good to me and my family over the years and you know in this role I think I have a lot of experience and I have something to offer, and hopefully I can help college hockey in this critical times that that highlight that we heard coming back with with Tony Winning in Minnesota that. When you hear that it obviously provides good memories, but you know that that that it's so long ago, but when you hear, it still makes you feel good. Right Oh without question. There's so many good memories of my coaching for, and that's obviously one of the highlights at. The moment you're never gonNA forget the win a national title in overtime I've been on the other side of it. Ninety six lost the national title and overtime to Michigan when I was little college and Brendan. Morrison, so you certainly have those moments. Into your psyche. That's for sure not that with a great one. They got think about I mean we're going to get into. The what goes into CCA, J. Commissioner, and Governor Ketchup and like your plans and everything but think about not only all the great players, the NHL players you have coached, but that you have coached against and I mean just so many wonderful hockey players have roll through this part of the country. They really have an in a during the lockdown which sports they I think. They showed one of our. I think it was seven. Way Queen or the final five against north. Dakota I believe the numbers are accurate. Nineteen guys in that game between the two teams played NHL. Like thirty, eight of them signed a professional contract. So you know that was a heyday and There was a lot of great players came through they they actually stayed in college a little bit longer than what they do today. And that's why they were such a great time and being able to plant the XL center in the final five, magical northern Michigan is in your conference 2021 Don Lucia Commissioner of the C.. H. A. with the Bemidji State Bowling Green Ferris Day Lake Superior State Michigan, Tech Mankato and northern Michigan so northern Michigan coached by grant Tommy. What what if your former player somebody with whom? You're close calls your cell and is mad about something one time. Well. I'm sure it's going to happen. Because I know that. When I was coaching I I called a loose at times or Greg Shepherd as referee and chief at times, benefit and I. think that's what you have to do is you're going to have to sounding board a little bit and and talk to coach off allege. Go Ahead No I'll just going to say because there is that passion the heat of the moment, but you always going to have those issues within you. Yeah, usually take twenty four hours and you know you'll you let the emotions kinda dissipate, and then you can have a little bit more civil conversation. You know I will have an open with all the coaches I mean I. Invite them to call I say relationships. Communication's really important in this position. What? What made you want to do this at this stage in your life? Well, I, think I mentioned it earlier that the willingness to give back I. Think it would be fun. I made a comment and a different interview that. I was fortunate. All my life I enjoyed going to work. I mean I other days. It's not as much fun sugar. was there a difficult life? Yes? But the. Coach College Hockey and have an impact on so many kids. It's just that was a blessing everyday. That'd be able to go to work and I look at it. The same way is that I think it's GonNa, be enjoyable I think it's GonNa. Be Fun, I I'm looking forward to helping college hockey. You know we've got some issues that we need to sort through. It's critical part of Kobe nineteen, and what's going to be happening happening with budgets and everything else it. I hope I can help you know at this critical time, and with the knowledge of my background, and that's that's what I wanna do I wanna try to help college hockey. In college hockey eventually rhythm in really other than the last year. I've been a part of the college hockey since nineteen. Seventy when I went to Notre Dame, And correct me if I'm wrong here. Don Don Ritchie and nine to noon twenty years ago, a couple of decades ago, most teams in this. Wouldn't have much of a chance competing with like the Minnesota's North Dakota's of the world and it seems from afar down that that that has changed and as commissioner. How can you help the CCA teams? Keep that competitiveness with some of the bigger name schools. I think we went through a stage about. mid-nineties till you know maybe two thousand ten or so where the big schools Kinda took over, but if you look back. You Know Lake won national titles and Eighty, eight, ninety, two and ninety four I think Michigan Northern Michigan one. There is a nineteen ninety one Boy! And early eighties and you're right like main K.. Don't they could've easily won the national title. This year been allowed to play itself out, but. I think they have a good model. They it's a situation where you know for the most part they're recruiting or older players. They couple years. Juniors come in at twenty, and you don't have for three or four years versus you know wants me a little bit more difficult for Minnesota's that you know if they have a bunch of eighteen nineteen year olds, and then they're turning pro earlier. Earlier than what they used to That does make a little bit more difficult to tune in tomorrow I. Think Bob's trying to do that right now, but you know the fun thing for me is these seven schools have a real commitment to their hockey You know there's not a lot of BCS schools playing college hockey laser eight seven in the big ten in Boston College. Or you is now, too, so there's not many and the great thing about our sport is i. don't care if they're division three at Colorado College I don't care if you're northern Michigan or in big rapids at first state that's their BCS sports and hockey is our number one sport on campus, and they fund it that way and they wanNA. Win I level, and that's what makes our sport so great as it already. You're calling a college. College Northern Michigan or the state or Mankato. You CAN COMPETE WITH ANYBODY MR Commissioner. You were asked a question that your press conference yesterday like the gravy train You were asked about Saint Thomas university, potentially joining the the C., c. h. a. and you, you said something along the lines of you'd have interest, but you know obviously things would need to develop so I mean is. Is that something that eventually potentially could take place? Well I think what you saw the ruling yesterday from NCWA they delayed how they'RE GONNA! Rule for your, but with the caveat that. Saint Thomas can apply for a waiver, and usually they don't. Ask Me to apply for a waiver less. It's GonNa. Be Granted, so let's assume. That you answered away were grant Saint Thomas his waiver, and they would be allowed to Division One now. They're going to ramp up. With their hockey programs, men and women. And they're going to be looking for a home. Obviously with Saint, Thomas They'll have some decisions to make Fill us into bright guy. He's done around. He was at Minnesota Penn State and now they'll do a terrific job at Thomas Academy. It's going to have a lot on his plate. That's for sure upcoming a number of years, but finding a home for their hockey programs extremely important. I would assume that women women are pretty seamless going into women's W. C. H. A., and when you look in the West, and then they'll probably going to have to make a decision down the line whether they would. Be Perfect for the NCAA or the C. C. H. A. Obviously you know unbiased hope they'd want to strongly consider us on the road. When the time is right we'll have those conversations, but again there they'll have options no have good options, but no matter what direction they go I'm excited that Saint. Thomas can be a Division One college hockey program. Because anytime we can add a division one program. It's great. Scrape the state. State of Minnesota Saint Thomas Academy is a terrific school and has a rich tradition in athletics, and they're gonNA. Be a good step and It'd be a great fit for the C. C. H. A. and had a third team in Minnesota with this league, which would be really nice for the and Main Kato and give eight teams to the League, but again. That's going to be a decision that they'll have to make and they'll. way true all the issues for their own campus and I look forward to avenue that conversation down the and and with the University of Saint Thomas in college hockey, attempting to widen its footprint in recent years I think the Arizona. State example would be the best with with covid nineteen. Do you foresee a more regional approach moving forward at least initially and maybe things like interlocking schedules between some conferences? You'd think that would be considered. I think all things considered now I think regional non conference games are going to be even more important You look at the finances I mean. We don't know what's going to happen. They share you know. He Looks College football on track, but at the same time or they're gonNA ask. Half Stadiums, bird stadiums. We just don't know what's going to happen. Look at that, and that's huge financial implications, so everything is so up in the air this year, and hopefully we can get through by the end of the year with this Kobe nineteen and refined a vaccine and can base can pretty much go back to normal but I I think it has to be considered the the regional scheduling and not only for our sports, but but all-sports last one Mr Commissioner ray recruiting has changed so much over the last few decades in college hockey with most. Schools building their teams. Let's say with older players in in in channeling some conversations you and I have had man for like ten years on or off the Mike as your view on that changed at all these last few years, being away from coaching. I think that was settled. I mean we had those discussions coaching body years back, and everything decided to leave it at status quo so I i. don't think that's GONNA, change. I think there's more important issues on the rising right now. Including the transfer regulation I mean that's GonNa be something that could be a hot topic if They open it up and you can transfer from school to school. There's no sitting out but what you have to do in hockey and football and basketball right now, so you know that transfer portal has has changed a lot of things, and you know that's going to have an impact and could end up with hard feelings between programs. If all of a sudden you know, some program has really good player and all of a sudden. They're playing different school the following year, so there's a lot I think more important issues in college hockey right now, and then certainly age situation and Everybody recruits What's GONNA be best interest to the program as they should, so my job commissioner rollers. Can help. We seven schools the C. C. H. Prosper. Even more important than that I, look as I can. Be An ambassador and tried out with my knowledge. How College Hockey be better down the line especially in the West as we try to navigate these times, brilliant Let's stay in touch and do this every so often. If you have time, Don this can be become. The Commissioner Covenant Because Kevin Warren Big Ten commissioner. Nine to noon every other week on a Monday and I'd love to stay in touch on the radio. K I'd be happy to do it anytime. I'm looking forward to being able to go to a game. Not Worried about who's winning and losing CONGRATU. Congratulations. Okay, thank you. Yep, see about that is CCA J.. 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It's vibe thing out, but you know nearing the end I will go to your twitter and I'll just like look through the last week just to see what you've been doing. didn't include the college football bit with job and the other guy I can't pronounce his name so then I went to the grill, and I saw the Douglas and Todd and the two stakes just see some would say overseas, and but for my for my palate, just season beautifully, and it was a charcoal grill and it. It just looks scintillating so Yours truly has a gas grill. A NAPOLEON GAS GRILL THAT I've had for a couple of. Of Years Courtesy of Warner stellion has like the sizzle zone off to the sides. Get Super, hot, infrared and stop get restaurant, char severe, and then flip it over. Get that restaurant. See or go back to the gas. Then I saw when I saw your little baby. Charcoal Grill Tanum Light Nacho prof I think you prefer charcoal over gas. Is that accurate well? Let me start by saying this. Let me get this right. So you referred to the tweet house talking about with the Oklahoma state first of all. It's too too difficult names because people want to say CIA, but it's Cuba. Cuba, Cuba, Oh, and it's amen og bog. Bogged Amiga Keepig Gate Gotcha weight shoe, but the Chew Burgundy bit with the Shirt Yep that that has flared up again. No, no, I'm just saying you're you reference that look? So I just wanted to see if I could say it. I can say it in my head. It's one of those things I can say it in my head. Hog Bogged Amiga, but it's hard to say out loud so I just WanNa practice while. I pay a thousand dollars right now to hear you say chewed. Judy Baca Odeen, Abo- on TV in like October or November and I'm watching on a Saturday. I pay money to hear that. Because then it's like another breadcrumb towards normalcy. It is okay to answer a question. I love my green egg. I love it I. Love it I love it right, but it's, but it's one of those patients things with with all charcoal. You gotta get it. You gotTA start it. You GotTa let it get get past the smoke point where you just get some coals and then and then you have to get up to temperature, and it takes a little bit of finagling what the dampers events and stuff like that, so it's a little bit more touchy towns, awful but it's Kinda fun in the taste is awesome. Yeah, It smokey. I got that old school. Taste to it, so we're doing like hot dogs hamburgers. I fired my gas grill I've got I've got both Oh, so you have to yeah, I've got I've got options. Nordahl yes not. You'll labor as do grills. Store does because I currently don't have a grip current emphasis on the word currently when when he moved to the west side. No diggity, you don't live in the western suburbs or not grow on your deck. It's just it's bad for the neighborhood I've been told I have to pay extra to the association. If I do not have a grill, we'll get grill. Yeah, no problem so the yeah. They looked absolutely fabulous. Now what with with some things that we have planned for today, I must concede ten eight nine to noon. Kfi Am part of a changed with a tweet that I just saw about thirty minutes ago during the Lucia come to catch up, and and we know from players or coaches when it comes to stating certain things that they may partially believe it, but as the like like every team heads into organized team activities training camp every team while we're in a to go to the super. Bowl were into win the super bowl. Dwayne Haskins, going to the Super Bowl with all due respect Jacksonville. Jaguars are not going to the Super Bowl, but they hashtag vase. All the hope that that is the push now. John De Filippo quarterbacks coach for the Chicago bears former offensive coordinator here for like twelve games thirteen games. From at around the NFL via twitter bears quarterbacks coach. John D. Filipo looking for quote juice end quote from Mitchell trubisky. and Nick Falls Deep Aleppo our notes Nick foles. WHO said this? We walk around with a little bit of swagger to ourselves. In terms of knowing, we have the best quarterback room in the NFL. Now Nick now. I thought it was deep. Is that it? It wasn't. It was nick malls, but still still nick foles I mean there's again. Shot Con. Scott Turner Ron Rivera Zach Taylor Joe Borough. Teams with all due respect that ab a one percent chance to get to the Super Bowl and they'll be talking to the media about our goal. I mean it's if it's a quarterback's Rome. That includes Mitchell trubisky off everything. We've seen to this point in fairness. You either can't say that or if you feel you don't say that. Know what I mean. I just I. Don't see how the Hashtag faith could even let that be spoken well. You know if you're a player saying that obviously, you're gonNA. PUMP UP! Your Room is a it is a slight. To yourself a little little padding of your own back a little bit little bit. MVP, though yeah, I mean he's. He's got that credibility. He's got that honor, but I think everybody knows the. You've got to see students in that Rome. You know you're you're not the best quarterback room. In the League and I'm not going to get in this debate about who is, but yeah, you gotTA. Have at least a you know. If you've got a top ten quarterback, you know you're looking at an a minus quarterback and then you know now you can debate on what what grade level your backup quarterback is, but between these two guys like okay, I might give foles. Be Minus you, gotTa be minus and you've got maybe CC. Minus the other guy right so I mean. It's like Dak. Prescott Andy Dalton or like doubt gay I look. I mean Oh. Yeah Breeze Got Jamie. How are you kidding me? I mean kind of. Riches down there especially when they booed re drew rolls out into the Superdome, and he gets booted home, which will be sad, but it's going to be well, I don't think it's going to happen I. don't either. Yeah I did but I don't Yeah Ben Lebron Studio Ben Lever Dot Com for things that he does off the Mike. Off Camera and off the field, he is Ben Labor and Ben Lieber Dot. COM now. The the Dalvin Cook contractual situation from talk ability standpoint, certainly not as hot as it was last week or leather, lout last week and change, and and with Dalvin. If, and or when emphasis, in my opinion, when he rejoins the team and plays in in the twenty twenty, it's a leverage thing you know that that will be good for football. Fans in this football team here, but let's say just by football faith on the other side because we don't know the complexity of it. Maybe you do, but I don't. Let's say it's ugly and it's just. It's a terrible situation and eventually something POPs up where you know. There's a five to ten percent consideration within the front office. That wow, we might need. Need to trade him get, can you imagine the potential of the overpaying TAMPA WOULD DO TAMPA BAY? Would do you put Dolphin Cook with Tom Brady Mike Evans, and what and wrong. Yeah, I mean just to continue. What can you imagine how well he would fit I mean God bless James White, Subaru underrated from Wisconsin had a terrific career, one of the better pass, catching fluidity, pass catching running running backs. I've ever seen in my life along with like the The two lane used to play for the bears. You played against him. Oak Matt Forte Not Forte. Yeah, just it's just fluid. Yeah, like I. Mean You practicing Adria Man? It's our remember you know before you and I were friends away. We are now on your plane. It's I'd be a practice in people. Nine to noon will be like you know just complaining left and right. Why don't we screen to Adrian? Why don't we ever throwaway Drian? What this this this and then you'd watch him. It was so mechanical him trying to catch a pass, but like with Galvin that's not and James. White Matt Forte but if it came to a situation, which is A. A long shot where it's ugly and and Dow, WTN's agent I'm pretty sure is pretty inexperienced might only have one client and this whole situation may have caught a certain football team completely off guard going I thought it was I thought things were going well right now or maybe Alvin just doesn't want to be part of the zooms and he wants to so that that's all part of it. Yeah, but if it does get to that point Tampa Bay is the first call, don't you agree? Yeah? I would agree that that's That's one of the teams that would absolutely love to build. Around there to superstars, and it's an area of need, and it would be an embarrassment of riches offensively. You know who you're gonNA. Guard on on as wide receivers slash tied in, and then all of a sudden. You've got super special. Galvin, who can dot bits good to yeah. Wow, the penn state kid got good. Yeah, he got real good so that'd be really really hard often to stop look I. I don't think that ultimately that. The Vikings and Dalvand are GonNa part ways. I don't see it as A. Stefan digs type of character where he's be out tweeting a bunch of stuff. He's going to be sending cryptic messages. He's going to be divisive in the Locker Room Zero I. I think that he just he's GonNa play Nice through the contracting businesses business I think they understand that I. think there that mutual respect of we understand your position as a running back, you gotTa Canalis when you can capitalize, you have to understand where we are as a franchise and what we can and we can't do. Let's see if we can be fair and let's let's. Play Business Nice in this whole thing, because ultimately we all care about the success of this football team and a big part of that. I do think because of the way that the draft went in. They did not go after a high round running back or even an free agency. It wasn't a high around. A high acquisition running back room. that. They're not dumb. They forecasting this year next year, and the years beyond, and who's who's going to be up for contracts and all this other stuff. They knew this was probably GonNa, come with Dow. Then they knew that they had to talk to about a contract and I think they feel pretty confident that we're not. We're GONNA. Do everything we can to keep him. You know we we. We haven't made any contingency plans. Madison is a nice number two, but he's not. He's not primary number one running back at this stage at this stage Amir of Dulas gotten some chances I think we can all see that. He's a nice change of pace. Mike Boone had his opportunities last year. I think. Personally he missed those opportunities. Yeah, the boone bid and the Green Bay game it was a bad swinging a mess for like the moving forward with that band he he had an opportunity to showcase his skills, and and and I think that he fell short considerably so. The fact that they did not address. That situation leads me to believe that lesson thousands going to be the plans. Let's let's find a a fair compensation to make it all work and make everybody happy and I think ultimately that will get done Ben. Labor Ben Labor Dot Com at Nacho Lieber via twitter next segment more football with the NACHO man I'm Paul Allen from the Bryant Heating and Cooling Studios. Good Morning. It's tend to cafe. Ears talking about it all the time. The iheartradio APP, the keyword with it of course is that it's free, but it's your music, your stations, your podcasts and again it's always free. 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Decide that that kid thing going on and. So I followed the reds and Barry Larkin and Chris Sale Eric Davis, mob dibble Was Sweet. You Know Chris Szabo's daughter Anne worked for Fox sports north. Yes she and you may not be watching wolves, games and I think it's her first year, and she does good work to you know. And then the Woolsey was her first year here and then the purge hits, and now there's no in studio, or whatever I didn't know that she does the pre and Post works studio work on bits with the analyst. She's grant. Any Sabo I've seen her work a lot with Kevin Lynch. Yeah, who I think does a wonderful job analyzing basketball. That's Chrissy Bo's daughter. I did not know that. Well I was a big Fan of her dad so So anyway, I kind of fell in love with baseball fell out with baseball I didn't love playing baseball because I mean it was. It was a fine sport play center fielder in a Pitcher, and I hated the non pitching days because I'm you're literally inhaling? Nats and center and just hated them like here I am. I'm in a full polyester outfit with the CAP on. Sweat my face off got a whole bunch of swamps, going on where the Stupid Cup and I'm inhaling nats the whole time, and I'm getting no action out here. About the fact that in baseball you are a cop. When you played football, you can't. You can't work wise and away. You got always surprised. Movement right I'll also it restricts movement now, not Macho Macho thing. No I don't know I don't know. Is You know we'll probably movement? It's tiny. No the car. It's not. Get it's not as big as his shoulder or the ads or anything. It's the cups generally speaking, though are in what way. Try Crossing, your legs over with the Cup on right so the so the horizontal movement. Yeah, you know like you're trying to sniff out matt for town screen. He gets eighteen. You blame it on the COP for sure. Yeah, yeah. I know what may happen now. Is You know because the way they have to wear these protective cups, but a lot of them are just like softy cups a little bit like hybrid cups. I can see more players doing that to wear especially skill players in bulk, because those get hit like my my brother's a running back in college, and you got hitting the balls once in practice and swelled up like big old giant softballs. And it was awful. To get hit the spot to to drop a couple of church bells. I don't know man. He got he apparently he I. Think you over the middle for a passing the linebacker hit right in the section and so. You know he didn't wear a couple of times, but I can see guys where like these cops that are maybe a little more forgiving your anyway I do baseball back. I. I love going target field art field an amazing place. I, I love the nostalgia that love the Americana of it and we have a hell of a baseball team. We've got a hell of a roster like I'm excited to see these guys play, and even though I may not be going to the stadium all the time I just missed the summertime of just having the Albion, and just here in the voices, and here in the game, and I may not be paying attention but I'm listening to two big crowd, noise and figure out what happened now, and it's unfortunate because It's an exciting baseball team. Great Stadium and and I'll. I'll say this about the baseball thing I know that. It's it's become polarizing. What side you're on ownership's side. You're on the players side and the players doing a better job of of kind of playing this role of like a anytime any place where we play. Look the whole game suffering and I don't look at it as like it's the players falter. The owners fault because I've been involved in meetings like that and I've seen sort of how players can be babies and I can see how owners can be greedy and I look at this is just it's an absolute, fail from both ends the the totality of Major League baseball to me a stained, and I'm not picking sides because I know how it works, and another has got to be things that are going on internally that I see. The ownership like I can't be the players asking for this. This is ridiculous, but they got the power numbers, and they got the power of the Union and You know it it. It's tough. It's tough. It's challenge football with Ben. Labor, BEN LIEBER DOT COM Nacho Libre via twitter I am recording a pick six segment for Vikings Dot Com later today. We do it every other wait. Let let let me run a couple of things Bhai you just to get your boom. You're quick, twitch with a little bit of a why okay Kirk cousins twenty six touchdown passes thrown last season, more or fewer in two, thousand, twenty, one and why? I'm GONNA go more. Because I and I think a big part of that is herb Smith I think herb is going to become a bigger part of this offense. He has to be I. Mean it's not just like a hope I. Absolutely has to be the plan going forward that You've got to get more production. You've got to put more opportunities and more targets in his hands what he can do not just in the field, but in the red zone Deniro Hunter fourteen and one half sacks, the last two seasons over under under Neil Hunter fifteen sacks 2021, and why which way you go, Kinda gotta go under right. Yeah, I think I'M GONNA. Go under on that I mean we're expecting a position change to everson spot. In obviously he's done really really well there and Andre Patterson so that's more of his natural position anyway, but I think there's acclimation period with that, and and I do think that I I mean sacks are product of score in and when your team is up by couple touchdowns, a couple of scores late in the game. That's when you get a majority. Your sex and I think this offense is just. With Jefferson and all these different things going on I think overall offenses in the NFL, a little slow out the gate, so I think sack numbers can be done as well two wins for the Minnesota Vikings versus the NFC north last season, more or fewer than three division wins two zero two one. So, we got to get a four or we gotta get a to against. The lions to to settle the backswing no half's man. That's that's a tough one because I think. I'm bullish on the lines this year I do think that they during a pivotal year, not only for their head coach in their office, but I think the I really liked their draft. I really like what they're doing, and and as long as Stafford can remain healthy and happy and motivated. Yeah, I think that's a dangerous football team, but I I am optimistic about this team as well so I'm GonNa all I will take the over on and with Matt Patricia and Bob Quinn. The the Patriots branches their branches on the ballot. Check Patriots. Trie Brian Florez and Mike. VRABEL are making them look bad because it kind of was like when. When when bill cuts them David, Patten whomever you don't want him, They're they're done. You know it's like when the Horse has race all these races and pushed on as hard as that trainer pushes on them when they're available. You don't want them and we would see coaches. Charlie Weis Romeo Coronel whatever and it just didn't work so now, Patricia, what was like the new one, and and it's it's okay. It's not working at least at this stage, but you're bullish on the team. Then Brian Florez starts winning those games at the end of the year and and and beats the Patriots at Gillette last game of the season, holy cow and Rebel in Tennessee gets to the AFC title game, so the Patriots way can work. If you are cockshaw enough to like, tweak it and make it patriots way but my way. Yeah and it's interesting because you know those three guys were all defensive guys like you know, and it's and it's interesting that you know mcdaniels is i. go around offense. Guy Did not go well. You know so and Weiss offensive. Guy Did not particularly go well seems like if you're coming from that tree, the defensive part of it defense defensive mindedness approach, toughness approach seems to be working more in the NFL but again. Patricia Scott He's had he's had a rough go, and and I think a lot of people would maybe even look at the organization from the top down save maybe not the best leadership, and he took over a tough situation, so he's got a lot of a lot of battles and fires to put out there on a daily basis but I do there's. There's there's something about that team that I think that you gotta be careful about their tough-minded team with a lot of Allah. No I might have missed it here. Nacho are you on four or two division winds purple up for your on four so yeah I mean now now you gotta get one or two against Green Bay, and it'll happen certainly one against Chicago depending on if you're playing in the twos and threes in the last game of the season to get ready for the playoffs, but the winning at soldier field thing is obviously whether it's chase. Daniel whomever it's just legitimately as As a thing last one still no reported new deal for coach Mike Zimmer. Do and I'm bringing it up a little more of late because we're getting closer to the them, re gathering, and and the process beginning with strength and conditioning, and it's just you. Don't you generally don't see a coach at this stage with no or GM to and Spielman but let's focus on the coach with with more years attitude, the deal or it known this. Is it copyright Mj, last dance and quote, and and we're GONNA to move on, so do you in any way just by being this do? Do you sense. There is a problem between head coach and team in putting together a deal. No, not at all. you know I I? Believe when Zim says that he's not worried about it, and it's not as focus, and and that he his life is going to be fine whether the he's the head coach of this team or not. Obviously, there's GonNa be some disappointment there but I truly believe that that he gets it. You know this guy has been in the longtime. Spill has been the legal longtime. They understand how performance equals. Pay Works. Yeah, and you've got to perform and. And if that there's an absolute correlated in between the two, and they understand that all right, if we don't perform a really high level and take this team deep, and have you know from the GM standpoint? have his guys the guys that he drops the guys they acquired. If they don't become high-performers, that's that's a a negative mark. What they can do is as an evaluator, so they I think they get it. You know I don't a lot of feelings hurt. You know they've they've had ample opportunity. The will families give them all the resources in the world They've got great stadium. Stadium Great Fans great practice facilities everything they ever really need and so now if the wins and losses aren't there, they get yeah, they get it. I mean it could come down to key in reason, unfortunate mistakes and unfortunate things that are going to be completely out of Control but that's just the way the NFL work, but if m e enclosing partout I, if you are a prideful man like Mike Zimmer, and he's very very prideful, and as equity as accomplished a lot including the super. Bowl Ring won the division here a couple of times so on and this week. next level. Shani Kyle Shanahan gets a sweet new contract. I mean that from afar might bug Zimmer. You know because it hasn't been around as long and granted you went to. Something called the super. Bowl recently yeah, he's ballyhooed around the league, but it's it. There could be a little. What about me? You know when somebody like that gets back new deal? I think that's human nature. Yeah, you know. I I I see all the time like I'm sure you've seen it and may maybe I pay too much attention to it on a personal level, but you know I'll see guys in the same media business doing some things and I'll be like that. I got that job. Like what really are. The Sky got this extension like? Okay like maybe I'm just not seeing it for what it is and then. We. We all did the same thing as players and. You know even you know. Derrick Henry is looking at Dow and like get you deal done because I, want my deal, and he's kind of like doing the same thing, and and you're always comparing and analyzing whether it's healthy or not, but I think that's human nature, and so you get you get a young fresh head coach out on the West, coast that. has his own fact bill cap and he's got his own image and you know he's. He's super sexy guy when it comes to this new age, look and He gets this new deal, and you're like what what you really done. What equity if you built I? Mean? That's just the way at work. You're the best man have a good weekend. Ben Labor Nacho Labor on Twitter Ben Labor Dot Com for speaking engagements more a second after the presentation begins with a a familiar. Name and a voice on Kfi am. It's Johnny Athletic on the NBA bubble and everything that goes into it in Orlando. What's fair. Shall we begin? Yes we shall begin at ten for two FM one hundred point three Kfi am nine to noon covenant. The Covenant Crusade. We welcome those of you joining us via the vast number expanding smart speaker radio network joining us now. John Krasinski Johnny Athletic from the athletic and the athletic dot com to basketball thing Johnny when when Shams tarantulas the protocol and the bobble and everything that goes into it when you read the entire thing, undoubtedly two or three times, because the the the the players association with with what was attained by the Atlantic I mean it's comprehensive. It's deep. What Dow just overall. What did you think of it and good morning? The morning. PA Yeah, it's You know what really stands out to. You. Immediately is just how expensive it is. I mean you know they are trying to cover as many bases as possible and close as many loopholes that was possible before they get down there to Orlando and so I mean they go as far as saying that if players are playing cards together that they. They should discard the pack after one game or one use, and that they'll, they'll be other packs of playing cards supplied to them, for for subsequent games and days that they're playing. Yeah, if they're going to play, ping, Pong, they should not play doubles. They should play singles to Yes, kind of keep social distancing going and you know it's so funny of that they're. They're incorporating all of these guidelines than these restrictions. If you WANNA, call them that, but then at the same time all these guys are going to get on court. Get sweaty and bump into each other for forty eight minutes. you know for however many games? They're gonNA. Play down there, so it shows you just kind of. How careful they're trying to be, but at the same time you just wonder well. is any of that going to matter in the grand scheme of things when so many of these guys are going to be in physical contact with each other on the court so often during this these three months? Effort that they're supposed to be down there. Johnny Christine, Ski Johnny Athletic What What is the cliche fly in the moment here because like with the the the pissing match between MLB and the players and the NHL as a July tenth schedule tentative schedule to begin training camp, but when you read up on that man, and you read up on everything I don't. I don't recall you know any like players. Association owners just like making sure that July tens GonNa work, still skeptical a little bit. Bit Skeptical on it but I want to praise the NBA man because it's like the commissioner came out, and he's like no July thirty first replying, and then somebody pushed him, and then he's like well. Actually we're going to do a July. Thirtieth will move today earlier that confidence going to work then the terrain piece, which is fantastic, and I want to credit the NBA for taking these steps and offering these breadcrumbs, but is there a cliche fly in the here? Well Yeah I think there is PA in and I think you're you're right. In terms of what Adam Silver and the NBA League office has done over the years. Over, the past five eight years is build equity with the players in terms of there is a level of trust between the Players Union and the League office that doesn't exist with the NFL or with Major League Baseball and some of these other sports entities, and so that they adam is trying to cash in that equity right now because there needs to be a level of trust that that he is going to be looking out for the players best interest. In this as they're trying to get this up and running again and and get people down there go in in adverse situations and kind of muddle through this now the fly in the ointment is that I. do think that there are a number of players understandably, so who are having conversations about? Hey, this really the right thing to do A. is it the right thing to do because of all of the civil unrest that everyone is dealing within the country, right? Right now and I think there are some players that are concerned that having Games would be a distraction to those pursuits and that maybe people should keep their eye on the ball and and just stay focused on the progress that everyone's trying to make on that front I. Before we get back to the games the second part of it last night. Thank for and when you talk to people behind the scenes. The less about is this healthy. Is this say? for me to be doing this in this covert environment. I think there are concerns about that but more so it's. Man This is going to be a big ask of players of coaches of executives to sequester themselves for as much as three months and be away from family, not being able to go out to a restaurant, not being able to kind of go come and go as you please and the mingle just the lifestyle of it. It is going to be stringent and I. Think guys are trying to think about. Is this really what? What I want to do now. The NBA is bending over backward to try and make it as accommodating as possible and trying to tell these players. Hey, we will offer you a platform for your social justice initiatives and everything while we're down there and we'll help you spread the word far and wide, but I do think that there are still some convinced seen among a fairly healthy portion of the plane group that They're ready to just completely sign off on this and jump in now, Johnny. If somebody wants to find you on twitter, IT'S AT J. O.! N., what? Are a W. C. Z.. Y. AND S K I. Can you repeat the part of this stuff where you said all about the things, the Disney hotels? Upon current conference, positioning so box Lakers Raptors Clippers Celtics Nuggets jazzy. They get the grand destiny. No some other teams get the Grand Floridian than the Blazers Kings, Pelicans, Spurs, sons, and Wizards get the yacht club so I mean we're not from grand. Does Destino to yacht club Wayne, talking about you know getting down there to like motel to, but nevertheless what determines the difference in these hotels? Yeah, so yeah know. The wolves and the Knicks are in the motel six down the three. Out there they see the the wolves. Courage checked in the warriors, and the Knicks they go to a two seasons. So what what has basically determining the hotel stays, is they see them essentially be a playoff position, and and the the teams that are expected to go deeper into the tournament are in one hotel, and the teams that aren't expected to be there very long like the wizards and sons, and a few of the other teams are in another hotel that that the league and Disneyworld want eventually to be vacated, so they can get regular everyday people in there who are going to be just going to Disneyworld and going to Epcot Center and the tourists that are coming back in because the whole park is opening up again by the time. Time that the league gets down there, there's going to be thousands of people coming through the doors. Every single day at Disneyworld won't be exactly in the bubble campus area where the NBA is going to be held, but they're going to be a bunch of people that go down there, so they need those hotel rooms eventually, and I think that it was basically a range that that that fringe hotel not prince, hotel, Third Hotel Yeah, it's the one that they would need for regular arrests more than the other two more luxury hotels that would house these teams for longer stretches presumably well. I mean yours truly is not casting. These teams and deleterious fashion the Blazers Kings pelicans spurs sons or wizards, but up what you said I mean. It's the worst news or potentially the best news tinkerbell and Cinderella gotten all year. True. 'cause that what that is. The one thing that you hear especially hockey, fans and NFL fans and I think rightfully so in some ways they say. The NBA playoffs are too predictable. There's not enough upset. There's not enough drama that way and so It is easier to kind of project. Who's going to be there in the long run. Now I think it's harder this time around, because there's no homecourt advantage. You know there's all sorts. Sorts of different things that factor in so I think you could see more upset, but I think that yeah, if I'm if I'm the if I'm Ricky Rubio and I'm flying all the way over here from Spain to re quarantine to work out to get trying to get back in shape, and then I'm going down there to play in a in an eight game regular season, which I have literally almost no shot to get into the playoffs. You know one of my wasting my time with here so I think that there are a number of teams, and maybe even some of the teams who are left out of this thinking. It's not the worst thing to only be there for a couple of weeks instead of for two or three months and it's not the worst thing at all I in the world to be missing this this whole rigmarole entirely just given that all the hoops that people are going to have to jump through while they're down there with Urania and the athletic, the athletic dot com, doing this excellent work from the Players Association Association in the NBA part of it. It There are some things here where I'm like okay and okay. I think this is a little far, and then the the the long swab with the knows they'll do the Short Schwab I. You know I I get a fair amount of it I think this part Johnny is is an impossibility at at all times on the court, players must avoid spy bidding or clearing their nose, wiping the ball with their jersey, licking their hands, and unnecessarily touching their mouth guard I that's I. Mean just simply just simply going to the line and doing something you've done for X. amount of years out of habit licking your fingertips. What's going to happen? Yeah, you're exactly right. It's the same thing where the doctors tell all of US civilians out here. You don't touch your face while if someone tells you not to touch your face, you're touching your face like it. Just it's just ingrained in you and especially as players. You know that their routines at the free throw line once they get into the game mode. No one's GonNa be thinking and compartmentalizing those little tiny things that they should be avoided. Maybe maybe you could say, you might be able to reduce or eliminate some of the spitting. It's not baseball. They're not sitting at. You're not digging into the box and didn't choose Smith and all that, but yeah I mean you know they're going to be yeah rubbing the ball on their jersey, they're going to be taken their most guard out while they will. They take a free throws. doing all sorts of things you know clearing their nose. Of course you know that's GonNa happen there. And no one's GonNa remember that when they're in the heat of the moment, so I think that those guidelines that are put in the NBA trying to say hey, look legally. We're trying to cover our bases as much as we can. We'll just gonNa tell you everything we can do if you don't do it, there's only so. So much that we can do there, but yeah I mean the the ball. Is GonNa? Hit Off Jersey no matter what if player rubs it against their willingly or not, and and so some of that is just it's it's GonNa, be impossible to legislate all of that. I mean I. I've watched as much basketball as you over the years and markedly older than you, but you watch a ton right now. The clearing the nose piece. I mean is that is? Pushing down on your left Nostril and in essence. And then we'll snot rocket. Yes, I mean I've watched a lot, johnny and so of you. I can't recall the SNOT rocket like being thing in the NBA, is it? I can't say that I've seen you know Kevin Garnett before. He takes the court you know and all the craziness that he does then just blowing. It's not rocket I'm glad he didn't do that. On the media front row, and just dumped the calcium and powder on us and said so. There's some of the stuff that I think that. What Game Are you watching NBA that this is an issue so I don't think fitting is a big thing either i. just that's just not in this isn't. This isn't any of that. There are some of those things that will be easily avoided. Some of the other stuff yeah, good luck trying to get that out of the game. As usual thanks for the time on short notice to discuss the the the bubble bit and have a wonderful weekend. We'll talk soon. Okay? Bake family PA later about. John Krasinski Johnny Athletic. You didn't know what a good old fashioned farmers blow us I. Know I know what it is for sure and impact at times, I'm sure of executed it. Yes, and perfection at timing the definition of perfection with clearing your nose in Snot rocket like fashion. Is You know it's? It's UNTO The Observer and for the person executing it as to whether it was. Let's say Clean Covenant Clear when you're in the business. Talk and you need airflow, but they know. Know when it went in the Players Association Protocol Bet. When it says at all times on the court, players must avoid spitting okay. who spitting clearing their nose I've watched eight million games in my life I. Don't remember from Elvin Hayes through Chris, Middleton somebody doing the snot rocket bit now wiping the ball with their jersey. That's the thing that happens on almost every inbound pass looking their hands. That is a thing all the time specifically at the free throw line. What about the old fashioned licking of the fingers, and then wiping the atoms of your shoes now if steph curry was compensated to play for courage, check, and as we have established the given, the Golden State Warriors are not part of this. It's belong play with the Bella check of the NBA Steve, Courage Jack Wire and I think it was mentioned at one point. Somebody had a runny nose in Wuhan encourage, courage and ballot. Check started doing their thing whether it's the combine the virtual draft or the bubble in Orlando. They acquire titles, not asterisk. Slome well said so now. Part of that protocol was a unnecessarily touching their mouth guard. Even the most casual NBA Fan or hardcore hockey guy, I'm on the hockey side and I'm not watching. NBA You only have to watch the final two minutes. That's all the matters. Even those of that ilk undoubtedly have seen. Steph curry and mouthpiece our hangs out of his mouth, and just chew win on. He touches it one hundred times again unless he develops with his tongue. The ability to like suck it back in with his tongue. Get it back into his mouth for the pleasure. He Covets when it comes to covering as t I see him. pull it out when he's offering up the three signal. Oh yeah, and I believe the altar mouthpieces in. Thumb and index finger with the other three up acknowledging those Americal, and beyond that he has once again. Yeah, hit from thirty deep now ain't no doubt and it's a lot from thirty deep, but good things, not part of the bubble bit because unnecessarily touching the Malka mouthguard. Dad, what about MLB, anything new Lavelli Neil. Third covers baseball for profit for the Star Tribune Nice enough to join us on the fly around the corner to carry the common thread from what nor does started in the open to where we are now. Is Baseball back close to being backers still posturing we'll get. We'll get the votes of wobble around the Corner Phil. Wave. Each Cova. Says Live? That's. I to. Win. I know. LAVELLE! The morning well good morning whether it's Luther Vandross doing his music or covering this heat wave song always and forever. Dot rest the soul of Luther Vandross. Stone called one of the greatest voices in the history of music and good morning. Yep, he's up there with. Marvin Gaye People Bryce some other guys. My man you put people Bryson in that mix absolutely. Come on. I mean I to you come on. Yeah, people rise was GONNA do. and. WHAT ABOUT BILLY OCEAN? No no equality! Batch. I can't even though we'd been what Elicit Luther Right now hold on. Yeah, it's I. Mean We've been friends for twenty one years, so you know probably cracking the microphone this day and age and being like the Billy Ocean. The Fan joins me now. I actually got to think about that one I say it right exactly. Thank you. Kinsey, you're telling me for twenty one years. You've been offended. I falls not twenty one years like twenty four. Yeah, no. I haven't been offended that law. Where where are you getting? Twenty Four Hour Kfi in twenty one. Well. We're going to your. This is like when. You're covering bomb. It's my twenty second year a very good point now now wobble with. With Major, League Baseball and the Players Association and what was reported, I believe by Haymond yesterday, and then it kind of changed in the day. This is you know when I texted you last night around midnight. It's I thought like. Oh might be back here. We go might be you know within a month getting ready to do something. Is that like? Hold your horses on that whole thing? Yeah, it's like the proverbial needle scratching the record you know also Apparently. They thought they had a framework of a deal. We've heard that phrase before in this town. And the union said not so fast. My friend and it sounds like it's over games. They WANNA play more than sixty and man. That's fine I mean to me. That's something that should be worked out And I guess from a scheduling. Structure Standpoint Sixty six games. It'd be easier. More balanced and sixty I think I've read somewhere. So I'm sure on that aspect and they they can afford, but. It's it's. It looks promising. That was I, was not happy Monday when Rob Manfred said you know agreed to sign this waiver to not follow grievance against us or well council the season. I mean that really sounded. Rather fatalistic and I was depressive that I've been during this whole process. But. What happened it forced Manfried to go back to negotiating table and offer a better deal. which he did with Tony Clark in the face to face meeting in Arizona so as yesterday once we found out, there was a meeting. There is like okay now. They're moving in the right direction. Finish line light in the tunnel. You know, get McFadden. Queued up ready to play. Now, he's got this little delay so I got imagine we're. Are there their bickering over six games now? That seems like a bridgeable gues-. But then you know Dr Fallacy the. The Anthony Fauci and Major League Baseball and the Director of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases I haven't followed. His prattle is pros as closely as others, but like right after all this comes out style cheese interviewed by The Times, and he basically said paraphrasing here he would advise Major League baseball wrap up the entire season postseason included by the end of September in order to curb risks associated with a second wave of covid nineteen. So now it's like around with your sport wobble. It's every time there's a step taken that you think is positive around the corners, the proverbial wet blanket. Opinions not not reflect those of the Minneapolis Star Tribune leadership so I'm just going to say this and then move move on. bleeps Ouchi okay. BLEEP, the health professionals who have been scaring everybody in the state in their homes, and shutting things down, and and now being afraid to come back out and do things. Thanks to the point zero zero four percent of people who have been affected by this thing. It's time for us to move forward. We can't keep shitting ourselves in houses and having a past trillion dollar stimulus packages in order to move forward as a society all right, so these guys, you understand the importance of resort resuming life as normal as possible, and that means sports we. We gotTA move forward. We can't sit here and be be super cautious of time. When we're slowly opening up restaurant to me, stadium should not be that far behind. The should be fans in the stands by late August. September I G- leave. We move forward and deal with this thing as if we're going to get it and have to deal with the consequences. Wow, what whether people agree with what you just said or they don't? You've got nardo standing up with his baseball cap on his heart and I'm not going to divulge which side I'm on with that. I'm just GONNA. Give you company collapse. For having the guts to say publicly and be impassioned with it man so a double dose of Covenant Clap For me there while on I. Feel what you're saying, but you know when you say you know, screw the good doctor. Mr Foul basically lays it out like and tober starts to get cold. Hey, MR fouled. She's a very smart man, and he's an accomplished individual and has done this job for many years, and he has advised many presidents. I'm just saying after going through months of this and seeing what it's done to our country, we gotta put ourselves on a path to recovery here. We we and I I just hate about being super overly cautious and things like that. Begin with a lot of time to study this in read, and we're going back and forth from my friends on. What can you take? Hydroxy Clark Queen Really answer or not. There really an answer or not, you know. We've got to be able to. because. Be Ourselves as close as we can. Until there's the vaccine. That's all I'm saying. I'm sorry. If I upset some people, but that's how I feel well I. If you upset some people, you also pleased some people, too. Because that's just how it is with this day and age with that topic and you know the doctor says quote, even in warm weather like Arizona and. We're starting to see resurgences as we open up, but I think the chances of there being less of an issue in the end of July and August and September are much much better than if you go into October. It's I. Mean if there are some owners who happen to agree with what he's saying well, there's another proverbial fly in the ointment. I! I just think if you're GONNA. If you. If you're going to open restaurants up any allow fifty percent occupancy. Why can't you have twenty to see other baseball stadium? You know or or thirty percent or thirty five? I mean that to me. You're not that far off from being in that in that will have to me. So. Wobble last one and thanks for the time I don't know where this this. This strain is. This Miguel Zeno story your thoughts. Man. When I, when this first came across yesterday afternoon I. Just Kinda stared at the screen for like ten minutes my mouth. Like. Wide Open about the hit the ground. You know for those who haven't read so knows in in the middle of an issue in the making republic. there's a guy who claims to known as buddies kidnapped beat 'em threatened to hang him, so no has charged this person with sexually assaulting one of his stepbrothers and also claims that the guy was trying to blackmail him for. ten million. Whatever the currency isn't Dominican Republic. they're supposed to be a press conference yesterday. but the twins contacts. No one suggested does not would not be a good thing. So stood down on this, but apparently there's some. There's GONNA be some meeting coming up on the twenty fifth where they kind of Hash all this out, but once again no claims he's being blackmailed. The guys claiming that he's been physically physically harmed by so and maybe it's friends. And it's over some horrible sexual assault act against a young boy, which is not. You. Just don't read every day connection when amazingly player so but as of now. So. It's not been charged with anything, so we can't rush to judgment. We got some of the facts. Come out and see where this goes, but it's a crazy, weird wild. Scary Story right now. Thank you very much for the time. Bless you and your family and we'll chat soon. Okay, all right. Thanks for having me on sure see about Lavelli Neil the third out. Lavalle Neil via twitter. with the scribes update and his version and opinions on not only pushing through the purge, but baseball and a potential return back to football. It's a an audio version of a Kubiak covenant looking forward to this all day. It's around the corner. Two! Twenty. Tomorrow was the Friday football beast. BE A in charge. Reunite for profit on Bob Dan. Kubiak governor the Audio version. Gary Kubiak Minnesota Vikings Offensive Coordinator. I mean venue a million super bowl sneaky took down four scarring credit all up and down this thing. I was like an assistant Mike Zimmer. Assistant to Kevin Stefanski last year. YOUNG KEVIN BOLTS FOR CLEVELAND AND Gary becomes the offensive coordinator of the Minnesota Vikings? This does not transpire that often, and we had an interview with the like a two on one I. think it was Nacho myself or yeah, a without Gary Kubiak in Indianapolis of the combine when things were normal, but occasionally vikings dot com runs down the OC we like listening to the OC because as sounds cool be, he's. He's super, accomplished and D. he holds the keys to an offense that could be very potent this year, but said over to the potency desk, and here is Eric Nordquist to carry us through the old Kubiak Covenant, many Morsels, and nuggets to take and unpack regarding the offensive coordinator and I wanNA start with I. Think the a topic for a lot of people right now. During his zoom conference with members of the media, Vikings Entertainment Network and more, he was asked right. Hey, gary, what do you think about this Dalvand Cook thing? We just heard news that he might be holding out new contract in the mix and here's one of a couple that have in regards to that. I. Mean I don't have to tell you guys. That is a great person. Also you know I just I've been around album one year I knew a lot about him as a player when he came out, and obviously he's a step to the plate and played very well when it comes to. Contracts you know I'm hundred negotiator between Rick and Dalvin, but as part of business, and we all we all understand that and You know you know those guys will do their job. We have to stay focused on our job as a football team moving forward and you know support Davin. We Rick. He'll go about their business, but we gotta get ready to play here this season so. So, we stay focused on that Jaba Gerry. What do you think about what Lavelli Neil? The third said nine to noon on this seemingly nondescript Thursday. Oh, anyway, without with Dalvin Yup I agree with everything. He said a lot of covering their from the Kubiak Covenant and I'm not even GonNa read between the lines and be like well the inflection in his voice. You know it sounds like he's super. Super competent that Dalvin will return I stick by my guarantee. Was it last week or like the I? Mean I I got loud. About Davos will be in that game against the Green Bay packers. I mean it was shortly after. Yeah I think we heard of the law of the potential. Hold out we you know pondering the timing of it in all things considered you are still you've been quite. Quite adamant ever since Dalvand, purple and Gold Yup and he's playing September thirteenth against the pack I ain't tripping on. This doesn't sound like the OC is either. No, he's not an ultimately. You know the the virtual aspect other one more on Dalvin. Maybe potentially before we move on Dalvand in particular, he's a smart guy. I can only draw from from my past experiences through through the years League Data Cook is is very bright. Guys, I'm. He is as good a grasp on what we do. How how we go about it down could teach class, I mean he's, he's at Brighton. That smart a football player I mean it's just you know I'll answer. It still is part of the business and guys like him up professionals like they take care of themselves, and you understand that that they're going to go through things like this and you know we all want the the end product so to speak and want to go back to work, but those things take time and and. And and so we'll, we'll let the business take care of yourself and we'll stay focused on her football Galvin Cooks Pass. Protection is underrated because people a don't credit or rhapsodised, pass protection, generally speaking by running back who runs and catches okay, and you know you don't really it's. It's kind of like the old long snapper cliche man yet you really don't pay attention that much to a running backs pass protection and being in the right place and helping to play develop until Adrian. Peterson goes TJ Ward on it. somebody gets strips act, and we lose a game or one DALVIN. Moments one of many in soldier field is blown up by was a quick Hausky or Nick Williams. Forget who that was. You Remember? Wow! When Nick Witkowski. That was okay, which rocked Dalvin Cook five yards on a blitz. Yeah, and wow, and so Dalvin was in the right spot. That's the thing he just got. He's got Mu. So. You know it's like that Green Bay game when a US Bank stadium, the the penultimate where there was no Dalvin, there was no madison and I'd credited packers defensive. Coordinator Mike Patton then, and I'll do the same thing now because I believe it to be true. It's when you're. You're planning and trying to find a way to win. A game and Zimmer's trying to find a way to put Aaron Rodgers on just in an embarrassing interception, which Raj generally doesn't do. Anthony, Anthony Harris Undercut a route sucked twelve and do a rare like whoa. Where did you come from tight moment? Yeah, see, that's Zimmer see bad scene. Scene we can talk Ho one week to get ready. Nickel, Ninety, seven and ninety nine against Pete and Warford and I'm GONNA wreck the game I it just it goes on and on with some things. Zimmer is done since he's been here defensively now from a from a delvin standpoint in Green Bay game, it's okay, you know it's in watching it back or talking with those in the know for Mike Boone and with all due respect to Mike I'm fond of Mike and I wanna I wanna see Mike's type undrafted Cincinnati work his way to a long and prosperous career in the NFL, and it very well could happen. In, that game shore, there are some situations of you know what you're looking for. Where maybe there was seven six or seven to be. But, Mike's is got big, so he didn't follow the plan. And it ended up being a two or three, but they're also were at Credit Patton was. When you come into a game, and the adversary knows your best. You running backs. You're not going to play. Than the the obvious way, some would look at. It is okay. We can do this with our defense because of their impotency in their running game or the utilization of their running backs in the passing game, or in watching it back as much as I have, you can next level it. It was next level by Mike Patton it's he basically was like there's no way can this guy. The third stringer may be the fourth stringer on Monday night football where he's going to be nervous. There's no way. Is He? Going to in one week hit the right hall. Catch it at the right time Oh, and by the way, memorize of the blitz pickups and the pass protection right, and and he came at Boone in so many non obvious angles erect the game. Now Mike has a right to improve that, but see with Dalvin it's OK scheme it up because Dalvin can run between the tackles, and he can catch it and make you miss, but you also have to get even more unpredictable to try to put him in a tricky spot, because like Kubiak said he can teach class Dalvin is so smart and football smart with refining his game to do what's best for the team in a pass protection standpoint, great great. Great, take by the OC. He's always in the right spot. And he spoke more on valuing running backs and even said Hey. I got a couple of championship rings with one of my running backs in particular in my mind. Maybe it's Terrell, Davis, WHO's H., O., F., H., o., APP so so he loves running backs. He loves Dalvin and our standpoint at the moment is that he's GonNa. Be there in September and we can just watch his news nuggets. Piece by piece up up until then, but I thought it was an interesting question. Somebody asked him like what's it like being? See again, remember you know as as head coach. He wins the superbowl with the Broncos, and then he kind of steps away and these on the personnel side. He's the adviser and we spent an entire year just pondering exactly how much e was in on Kevin's defence game plan? You know he's up there. With a cocktail napkin drawn up XS and Os school style Oh during the purge. Purge during the shutdown, just ambition Gary Kubiak. In some type of Koran Carinthian leather chair with the coolest old school. Antique Lamps Lit of course brought. og doesn't go sixty watt lamp. No, he does not now. The glasses are on the bridge of the nose. And then you have a pen and a notebook, and he is crafting the next great series. It may be with a feather, an ink on Russell hundred percent. Yeah, just like back Ben. Franklin just dip in that Morgan there, and then wherever if? That, that's the football God's way of telling you don't use that. Light his his playbook coming calligraphy as a matter of fact. Here's what he had to say about being. Oh, see again. Yeah, told Tom held locked up in a CONDO for two months. On Out now it's been good I You know first off. It's you know it's it's. I. Don't use the word easy for me, but I'm working with some guys I've worked a lot with You know throughout my career. You guys know that, so the transition very smooth from that standpoint of what I'm trying to get done and how to go about doing it. You know I I really enjoyed myself last year. I think you guys know that I really enjoyed working or examine rick and and our players. Tremendous Group of players Of Very motivated so I. I'm excited to get going again. I really am. Oakley. We can get back on that field here real soon i. just I really feel fortunate that I'm getting a chance to continue to contribute so very excited about this year and I'll go ahead well. We're excited about him. But what I wanted to what I wanted to transition to because the relationship that Kubiak has with his players the year that he had to to cultivate those. Those relationships yeah led me down this road where it was a topic of conversation for US late while late season, but maybe even mostly off season the continuity on offense, and here's what he had to say about how important it is as he goes into twenty twenty that the players on the field are familiar with what they're going to be doing. If you look at our group You know we're pretty pretty much. A veteran tight group are should say a group that's been together other than the receiver position, obviously losing a Dixie, you know he's a great player force last year very productive other than that particular position, which is going to be a very competitive visit for us We could probably lineup today and go right back the work you know what I mean. We should make up some ground very quickly so I'm hoping that that carryover helps us. make a quick transition into the season and but we're going to have to catch up. Has Some young guys helpless? She go back last year and you look at. The help what are brought look at what Madison brought. You know you look at a Garrett. Brought Olabisi, you looked at the guys. It really really contributed to our team in a big big way. authencity were very young players, so I think that's still going to be very important. Does Gary Kubiak? A PROFESSIONAL NFL equity. Absolutely is he well respected within the game from what you know most definitely does he have super bowl crat. Undoubtedly does he have multiple super bowl victories most surely with everything stated there, and with all due respect to everybody involved over the last eighteen years the the timeframe me calling Minnesota Vikings Games, and outside of that you know I've met some people around the NFL, but you know I don't know them as well as I do those who are here within our covenant our Fishbowl? Gary Kubiak may be the most ego, free accomplished high end. Individual I've ever met doing radio. And Calling Football Games. I! Mean you this when you talk to Gary when the League of Egos by the way whether it's about factor this winning the wise Dan. Great do at Churchill this weekend because he's really into horse racing, or you talked to Gary about his son, Clint? who was a safety at Colorado. State Berry good to. He's The quarterbacks coach here you know and and to watch him beam specifically father's Day weekend about his son following in his footsteps. It's it's always the same. It's always and I'm sure he's had bad moments where you know he probably WanNa take take a few things back. Did he sat or whatever over the years, but a of everybody I have matt doing what I do in this game. That this may be the most ego free naturally naturally. Ego, free. Accomplished high ender. I've ever met professionally speaking. In terms of the Vikings and the tough thing to is because when I say this I don't want to. Diminish or indict other individuals that I've worked with via the vikings, because so many fantastic people inside that building. Yeah, but I would have to agree in terms of there's no expectations when you're communicating with him Brian, and there's no I mean ultimately he's. He naturally is focused on his craft. He's not going to exert himself into the light of the media and the. The public space and no doubt, but I the sons the same, but there's also when you encounter him. There's no there's no border lot. There's no there's no bubble there and I just think that he's an incredibly warm presence with the what the organization, an excellent excellent adjective! He's warm, his warmth personally and professionally is very apparent when you get to know him. Bad a little bit of bad news for you though I mean, you'll come, because we're like mid March tumbleweeds in the concourse of the axe there goes, there goes Malcolm Sudan leaving with the with the sticks already been through a lot and we've been through it. It's it's been a tenuous three months personally and professionally for a lot of people so when we do get to mid September. I believe it's nine, one, three, two, zero, two zero. Zero replaying the Green, Bay. Packers at US Bank stadium I even though it hasn't been divulged, and I'm certainly not speaking for the team and I am guessing I believe Gary Kubiak will be in the coaches VACs box just to the right of the announcer's booth at US bank stadium, calling the plays from up there so he won't be on the field. He'll be up top, maybe interacting with Clint on meal-sized. Feel like that. I'm guessing. But it makes sense because I mean he. You know Gary, said it publicly to me before with Vikings entertainment network or on the radio. Well. Yeah, I mean he's raising his son to become an offensive coordinator. Maybe a head coach one day, and it's not it's. It's not nepotism, or it's not arrogant or selfish to say that because Clint is accomplished, and now has been around X. amount of years in kindest days around and is very smart guy. Yeah, so so that again the warmth, of Gary Kubiak the bad news for you is. You're not going to be at the right hand of the announcer. You'RE NOT GONNA get to see the AMMO G to the right age in a stadium that might have some people. It may end up having some people, not me no sixty, but might have some people so just something mentally you know as we take life and patches. Yeah, which we have done during from the purge for we are now. The days still need to go and patches for. Like here's a four hour paths. And what are we gonNA do with this patch and that batch yeah, and the this patches the nine to noon peace of mind one of my favorite times of the day, but if you can't come to home games so dumb as as the Vikings radio network spotter yeah, and Og, warm sea is to the right of the analyst. House I gonNa hit you. So. The doctor who shelter Burns Dr David Olson. Chris Larson Chris Larson Don Sutton. Don Sutton Eric sugarman yeah. All of you. Maybe they're listening. Maybe they're not Amanda. Amanda cannock I will take the long, Swab. I will I will gladly accept I might administer it myself. And all of you can watch, watch me struggle the uncomfortable moments, slobby, freaking brain, which is a mess there to get anyway. I'll wear a mask. Aware has met suit sweat, and it's any if it's hotter than sixty five degrees, I'm sweating anyway, so I'll wear. The has who I'll do. Whatever just let me in the building, okay? But when whatever feels like twenty sixteen when I'm blowing Xavier Rhodes only defensive touchdown. Yeah, by the way it came from one on one. I picked it up on my own and midfield, because you looked at the spotter that the fresh spotter who was jumping up and down high fiving, Abbott, yes, that where technically your role and your compensated so beautifully my an trial at that you're you're you're trial and you're compensated quite for it so i. can you know that's what disappointed me most is we give you six hundred dollars a game to pay attention to things and you know you're high fiving meat sauce. Xavier Rhodes goes to fifty. I'm breaking saying five times. It's Terence Newman on the radio and like so then the plays over and but see you. You're with your your catcher's Mitts, and because of the fear in which you live. How are you going to point down to the Nick Kwiatkoski four four when you got? It took me a while to get there by got you. There were a couple of. Chemicals and like side things in there. I liked it. It's I'm not concerned about that. We'll find a one eleven forty more from the verbal Kubiak Covenant Odd VIP. Wait. Wait until the. Go tomorrow my very well. Be Two. Four seven past the hour of one one. Eight until tomorrow because tomorrow was the staple. Looking for staples up in this thing. It's the Friday football beast BA in charge, mad producer by our side if you can't listen tomorrow, for whatever the reason. Or You, you skip out on it and early happy father's Day weekend. Do all of the DADS happy Father's Day? To the single moms who and low key fashion, their moms and DADS. They're playing the role dad. Yeah, so everybody where it's pertinent. Happy Father's Day to you and bless you. The Kubiak Covenant Verbal version from Vikings DOT COM and a couple of quickies to get you over to the quickey desk and years ago, Yeah Kubiak, Gary Kubiak offense coordinator, speaking with the media via zoom kind of an all twenty two zoom replay from the OC for yesterday, and I thought an intriguing question that was asked his house, Kirk cousins showing leadership in a virtual world that they are existing in right now. What's he doing? Virtually Housi- connecting with the players? US Gary. That's a great question. You know because the guys like him have had to take over You know whether it's trying to get together with the guys and do. Do some throwing a you know a getting on getting on the computer like you and I are right now. Talking to his teammates in okay, here's how I do this year. Here's my verbiage. Here's how runner two minute drill you know, so some of that hands on stuff is probably been more so than ever so but I, I think curb came out last year with a lot of confidence as a person and player I think he's very excited about our group moving forward and he knows he's going to have to take on an even bigger role with some of these new young faces like Justin and so I think really off season. Can't wait to start the ball around again, but I know he's chomping at the bit Kirk is very smart. He's naturally a very smart calculated football guy and Kirk cares. Kirk cares about a lot of things, but he definitely cares deeply about about running the offense the right way and having a quarterback like cousins in these virtual times. It's just I. Mean we've slow? All did all offseason now. He's got to watch the Games and see if. If the opinions or right, having a quarterback like kirk cousins in an offense that has continuity in the early stages of the season I think that is not just an advantage for an offense. I think it's massive I think in the first quarter of the season say you may be a little less. Don't know though I think. It's a massive advantage for like drew brees with the way Peyton runs it cousins, knowing the way Kubiak runs it. Golf with way, mcvay runs it. I mean it's the established offenses, and it's the quarterbacks who have not only the the continuity piece, but the autonomy piece. You know within that offense now, Kirk. Under, John De Filipowicz like hey. Where are the audibles and check downs I? Mean those were conversations. We had a bunch of twenty eighteen remember that none of that in twenty nineteen, and just the the the melding of processes with Stefanski, in-and-out Kubiak and then Kirk. Autonomy these guys that get to control the show out there I. Think is a really big topic for guys in a weird summer to start fast. Danske with Baker though I mean that's new. And you mentioned earlier the with Kubiak defense key, and how he worked with him, and how Kubiak work was Zimmer you know because they they wanNA, play off game and the offense for the most part season Wong was good, despite still some problems at that time with the offensive line and The answer is Gary. Kubiak, so we go free so well respected and so antipathetic to clamper in that spot. Here's how it worked. It worked so well. Stefanski installed that offense in Cleveland Yeah. So that's you know when you talk about the trees Okay Kevin Stefanski say wins the superbowl. What tree is he from I? Mean is he a bevill? Trie, a children's tree mouse grape tree. or Kubi a Kubiak tree. He's a Kubiak he's a limb on a Kubiak tree. Tree has many branches. Fool I like that anything else. Yeah, my last one for you is a guy. You know that I'm big on IRV Smith Junior. Having a massive twenty twenty now. How does development work during the purge? Is it is it slighted or taking back a couple of stops? So you know Irv Smith for me. Big Impact Opportunity in twenty twenty weird season, virtual, or otherwise in. Here's what Gary had to sack very impressed a great pick by Rick I. Mean You a young player you know I mean come out very young. And the biggest thing for me is I just see so much upside. Watching her come into camp. We ask him to do a lot. And I made him learn the F. position. hammers position as well as his tied him position you watch throughout the course of the season we. We called on her more and more I think There's a big big upside here. I love lover as a kid in a competitor. He really enjoys come into work every day so and he's benefited from sitting right there next to rudy every day in watching. You know watching the season pro. Go about it so. I think there's a lot more. They're going to give it to us. And I gotTA make sure they're getting men position to do that me thinking it was Terence Newman, a not exurbia roads comes back on me because I'm the announcer and people are listening to me. Call a play I needed to be there with a finger on the number when when and that was your first year spotting for the Vikings Radio Network? It's been better since and it was. It's fantastic it and it also you know the Ruben. You came out where you're high. fiving sauce and I'm blowing a one hundred one yard interception touchdown call where fortunately it was a newman custody back. I think we call Xavier's twenty-six Xavier Angles. To the left or wait is an exhibit here. I can see in the future twenty nineteen. Oh. My Heavens look at twenty twenty ain't going to be good. Do you remember the Glare I gave you? When bursts, which was describing the interception touchdown, I remember it. It made my body. We're doing said you know you. You actually said if we're going to have you in the booth. The least you can do is try to identify. WHO's making the play on the field? 'cause I am not perfect. I wanted to lick my finger and put it in your I. It was in vogue. Even think about licking fingers and putting them in I. Think I got a binoculars to the pouch move shortly after that have made him the top five job bud C. C. I. R.. Norquist Matt, producer I'm Paul allowing Friday? Feast tomorrow charge we reunite after being away from each other for a couple of weeks, but I mad producer rep show. Thanks to Metro. Ford for bringing you the nine to noon, show wraps customer satisfaction service safety on not just cars. Lavallee Neil with words. He's rarely at a loss when he comes on makes you WANNA sing, Luther Vandross. As we return to normalcy and crawl out of are caves, she screams. Everybody looked out for the second way. Okay folks filed back into the shelter back to the Combo of the shining and helter skelter, mental stress being stretched like me, wearing a medium sweaters pushing through the purge the only way. Way To get better, but candidate invites home games I'll feel rob. Please doc, gladly take on that long swab. This need the adrenaline rush of being close to the show and you find any brains of their. Let me know tomorrow is the fees charged back from vacation? He's always been a force for the nerdy generation in studio. Hell Yeah Welcome back Greenway Standard for Volley looking forward to dad's Day. APA! podcast today's Paul Allen Show listen to premia show interviews like going to the iheartradio, APP or Kia.

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"Fan As far back as I can remember, I always wanted to be a gangster. US superstar. Shall we begin? News! Radio. Care probably long. into. Question. Time for two more. That much else to say. Managing the mood swings. I know right. This Week Matthew. He. ended. Nine to noon on Wednesday. Should be outstanding. Here verbally knock somebody out. Might even be exciting. Dump. The SNOB is in the Sports Nah. That's a Wednesday. What's the long play sweat? Accomplished musician. Daddy Superstar Dad. alterra kind individual. Chris Hockey. Taking part in stump the SNOB as in these sports KNOB. With yours truly. On A. I think it's a two game winning streak. And the SNOT nose. Corey Co host of the power trip morning show taking part in stump snobbism, the sports KNOB. Hawk today, Nordahl, and Good Morning Good Morning. It is Seahawk today. yesterday I just followed this intently via social media. Few members of the power trip morning show. Conglomerate Chris Haughey. Zach Halverson Meat Sauce Paul Lambert. embarked on a seventeen hour journey yesterday. A day trip to rapid city South Dakota. Why apparently there's a place there that make the best burritos. And it's and not only do I give props because I appreciate a good road trip. Yeah, that'd be tough on a workday, but all the same yeah Avon's dull at home and Cetera. What type of car any idea? I believe it was a sporting utility vehicle, so it was large enough for all three of them. Maybe stretch out. Take turns napping etc in the backseat, so it wasn't like Jefferson lines the people who said Chris's life no after that bat. Oh, and thank God for them by the way what if we didn't have Chris Haughey inner lives anymore? It's all thanks to Jefferson Lot I couldn't take it. Absolutely make me WANNA work noon to six thirty. So upon returning from the trip I think they left following the conclusion of the power morning show and again seventeen hours, so they couldn't have gotten back before midnight or one am, so we're eight and a half rapid city. We eat a BURRITO. It lives up to the hype or it doesn't. And then we come back. Yeah, that's kind of A. I mean it's rapid city. Could be considered well is considered. A hub, a major starting point four three four five days in the black hills yet well, and the key is to think about the anticlimactic nature of it, so I went to Canterbury on Saturday. Morning placed the honorary I. Bet did a video of it, and it was exciting because I had one shutdown shoutout Canterbury Park inviting mad producer in letting him bat firsthand on felt when correct so what if it had been sixteen against a Tan I hit I bust? I'll go to Shannon Park Dot. com I gotta go. Yeah, you haven't made upon. But with that, said yeah, that's looney minutes. You drive all the way to rapid city. Yeah, the burritos trash. Yeah, well. I guess we gotta go back yeah. Wes Zach if you can drive, please. Take a nap in the back. Wes who day! Dice is not open a diamond JOE's. I can play blackjack at. Canterbury I'm not driving to freaking. To Tabet Dale Monsour in some race I'm. Not GonNa Watch. Now, that's I always loved. That's three hours to and fro. Yeah, so I mean holy cow, you see four ninety four and I believe. It's Nikolett it's it's. It's the one after Lyndale Miami Portland.