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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

39:06 min | 1 year ago

Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 3)

"Shake shake it shake shake in I know avocados can't wrap my head around it I I would yeah yeah yeah yeah I feel good about it yes yeah good name puts on a hillary pay like a good name I get ready to sit back down I sit down at this point I'm like this one here it's just not funny because you got it professional athletes or athletes in general for whatever reason that struggle in the big moments when they shine in regular is a blowout appetizer. Whatever but I'm doing some other stuff and finishing up the garage I'm dealing with the The Halloween guy putting up decorations as we out he come in again seventh-inning I'm texting you travis and my kids are in the kitchen messing around and doing something I'm sitting on the couch playing in regular season games in all those sorts of things and not necessarily struggling in the postseason but dominating the postseason and doing my job put my butts back on the cushion Bam out the yard again what this is crazy why they don't perform well into bigger moments how so because I totally go off I can only go off wrestle experience again I'm sitting down I'm cocktail and I'm you know I'm watching I start early cocktail and because the Saint Louis game was awesome China watching even think I'm a jump up in scream and I you know I'm profanity laced and I'm doing the whole city but did I get ready to sit back down by the time yeah yeah yeah you know you know what else doesn't stroked a choke headlines also yesterday I'm rolling and I'm excited I start off at the grocery store Gilson's I get all my food everything I need I go home I put it together okay can I continue to try to explain in China I'm not necessarily explained try to wrap my mind around any give up the home run and I jump up and I joking out of my seat I say this you know the wars that go with that yes got to try something degrees but also national angel food season moments but when it's time for big moments that they struggle I just don't understand it because I guess you know it's not easy it's easy to identify yes I gotTa Watch this to talk about it tomorrow and this is not cool so it's not all going Hammani standardly date not terrible food cake is okay how do you do that right it has to be really light with his little fruit maybe a little whip cream on the side assuming that this is the reality of Clinton Kershaw career where he's GonNa put together a career where he is an MVP which he has been which he is in eighteen item taking a look at that come in and the game is rolling and we in the win the fifth in the six and we call we straight Kershaw come in book three NFC championship game from the other side of the field to the super bowl this is different it doesn't even compare right you didn't go to Gilson's so looking forward what are we gonna do with Clayton Kershaw and I'm not talking about do you won a championship but Clayton Kershaw is the reason they haven't won some of these championships how do we look at him. In this city relative to the other great players come through the city because Clayton Kershaw a better player than Orel hershiser was he's a better player than Fernando Valenzuela was but we think of those guys a certain way because we but also a guy who not only did not get a world series because lots of that has lots of guys whether it's Charles Barkley or Ted Williams Ernie Banks Patrick Ewing there's plenty of guys that have not order remembered as his remember is of course they always remember so we're because a week ago the conversation was he missed the kick he missed it when you have a championship under your bill you're going to be viewed differently than guys that had great careers that don't have a champion championships we feel about winning Clayton Kershaw is what but everybody you said on that list those championship right they in so I'm all star which has been a three time cy young award winner which he has been and one of the greatest pitchers in dodger history the greatest pitcher of his generation arguably adores cooperstown yeah that's true but at the end of the day he's not going to as of now he's not going to be able to give that speech the same as if he had he championship he Mr King on my God he missed the kick I can't believe the Mr K. wide right rams losing Seattle Gail but this one was like GD surrogate mother some other stuff marquee they sit there they look at me and they just paw stare what's wrong with him and then I'll make did you try to move him to your baby and I'm talking about that I'm talking about fast Ford five years from now ten years from now whatever it is how do we feel about this so I went and got dogs a potato puffs corn I went got food `tatoes but you wouldn't go grocery shopping for the Seattle Game I'm coaching on like the rams enough you went shopping cooking whatever it was there was there so people gonna always view him differently compared to those guys that may have not performed over a career the way he has Kobe Corinne Phil Jackson Pat Riley Tommy Lasorda the great list of guys we have in this town John Robinson John McKay Pete Carroll Occasion Johnson all of these guys that have one heiser you've got the bull mowing guys down in eighty eight so when you look at you go okay if he could somehow muster up a championship over the next that's already given station is conversation one about Lisa Leslie she's been doing it since high school so the question isn't a statute the question is help when they're having Clayton kershaw unstable sitting at the table fifty five years old and they cut to Clayton Kershaw on saw Orel hershiser did in the fall of nineteen eighty-eight we saw Fernando Valenzuela. Going to Yankee Stadium is a kid and beat the Yankees we've seen all of these things whether it's magic it could be good okay that light like like I do not Sweden Devil guy you want the thick the moment will be hey it's Clayton Kershaw and it's a it's a nice round of applause and you feel a certain way but everybody of a certain age that song let me tell you about this guy and I know you guys like the clown me when I bring this stuff up he doesn't get a statue to me before Lisa Leslie Finer statue somewhere before Venus the damn thing when they need it to you can't say that about Kershaw you just can't get that Venus and Serena in Lisa Leslie is that is over but I'm saying it was ripping up to disappointment disappointed was the other one was Greg's allies really good kicker is made a bunch of big kicks ready to kick in the the way I put it down you wouldn't even come on man you seen it us trying to eat through the phone west cheese headline the morning you're listening to KABC in Los Angeles at the end of the day they perform big moments like you said you got a one thousand nine hundred eighty year old kid Fernando Valenzuela go into the Yankee Stadium and brought him down with the screwball or you got he doesn't deserve any sort of recognition of a statute level before those were because we're talking about champions they did the damn thing too and the clutch moments they did Super Day on it was like because we differences we had this where we have the game over Sean Spicer in you say great pitching right those people have finally gone yeah this is the gone there now he has finally said what they say about for years we got three years left on his deal be a part of a championship team I think it will lessen the blow will how you feel about him I tell you what ship in in in that's just what it is I mean you you look at it for what is worth and you say well but he's he's going to go in the hall of fame ballot he's walking right through Serena fantasy there from Compton lease lessees from here she's one chips the women under ten side they don't redefined the game to me Charles Barkley and he always tried his best and in the postseason he played extremely well he just different is is best but it just that hey listen it's not as bad as you think it is with Clayton Kershaw he's not he hasn't been as bad as you think he's been this was the numbers are skewed because of what happened lean into him but I'm cursing has explained I can't believe this guy and they sitting here like is it that seriously everything people say is true right now but postseason I understand that nothing I can do about it right now it's terrible feeling it really is but last night on sports center when they cut him in the clubhouse and I was mad about what had happened and incredibly disappointed about what happened watching him stand there and talk because it wasn't Saint Louis a million years ago because don mattingly left him out there to get his brains knocked in and that's why the numbers look bad and yeah look everybody's going to have a hiccup now and again I think even left hand the second time to settle he was crushed you could see that snapshot that I sent you guys from the television screen when he was sitting here point four well I think I think what happened last night is that the and there was a faction of people that were selling this and I think that they believed it yeah I'm not going to hang my head and be here next year trying to do the same thing and continue to try and do it every single year I'll be honest I was watching that in these moments you know I I I'd love to see if what his teammates saying about him to him what they said to the the results come out on the negative people talk about Lebron James I gone he lost many times in the finals look at finals numbers you you can look at his final because he's one but that's sitting there you can't say anything to him or about him right Kershaw on the other hand I'm envisioning at the dodgers stadium and he's all gray and he's enjoying the poverty you know pop bill the small ones smallpox obviously media did they put it the arms around him like wasn't privately you know I just WanNa i WanNa know what was going through you go champion champion champion Kershaw champion channel just don't look right not just because he didn't win I guy at that point alarm bells sirens whatever you WanNa call them are going off saying Kelly just lost it two nights ago in Washington d what is face between his legs alone you can look at him he had a non in his stomach and size of a watermelon. There's no question about it and you Kanta my Ada goes out there in relief of Kershaw and Bam goes right through it okay you took him out and it's I let's see what happens Joe Kelley follows him it didn't work out right because you blew it you made some decisions that make no sense let's put Kershaw aside from a we'll circle back and get to him and what he went through let's Guy I wouldn't because if the ball goes over the fence the Games tied it nearly did it lodged in the wall he leaves them in walk the next Guy Okay so you do an intentional walk let me say because when they put Sandy Koufax on the screen and they put Fernando Valenzuela Cutoff Sandy Colfax sits in the front row is different though man he crosses his legs the best hitter on their team is up next Anthony Ren don't let him pitch really really bad decision but maybe you let him go is when he gave up that Jack listen to Dave Roberts try to spin that makes me want to Bang my head on the desk well you know it's really easy to second guess this was not a second guess you know it just have you looked at what's happened at this point Kenley Jansen never came in the game until they were behind by four runs Kenley Jansen that's and in the ninth inning Joe Kelley was great ten pitches three outs razor-sharp great you want to bring them back out sure he comes back out there and he walks the see you saw this guy completely loses groove and he never got back you let that inning spiral out of control so now he walked the leadoff guy in this inning and what do you do he's not going to be able to sit in the front row if the chairman heats no you won't look if you pay in right because he's the reason why we lost he steered the ship into Burke yes yes that's the reason why so different it'd be one thing if he words on his face but he didn't look particularly happy he very disappointed he wasn't one to come out in that situation to begin an excusable it's managerial malpractice and where to place now where you can point to a decision that absolutely altered our city me and I think we have sound here is true they are not going to hang my head I'm going to be here I'm going to continue to try to fight continued to compete I'm not gonNa try away from it continue to do it a spirit was broken well he first of all he should have never like you say Travis he should've never I I probably would Joe Kelley one or two batters that's it just all right I know I gotta take my medicine I'll go in there and say I blew it and it's my fault you could tell he was crushed he was absolutely was crushed when the crush when that pits talk about what happened in the tenth inning because this is the part where Dave Roberts can talk about well it's not analytics and it's not this and that then what the hell were you doing in that any because world series it wasn't a finalist like it wasn't an finals for the Lakers and celtics at least everybody including the keyshawn was never impressed by anyone thought the dodgers would get to the series and win at this he has given up a walk now it's double and now of a sudden the game is still in the manager of the coach is just watching it happen or the players looking at each other saying like tale happen so I was sitting from vantage point which I could actually see Kinley face as Joe Kelley is making his way out and I don't want to put it back from China Sir the concord Gosh with so by the time California was playing and they were down for run it took him half the damn song to make it to the mouth because all the air had been taken okay Kenley Jansen is there for the clothes you wouldn't have never got to a situation had you played your cards right he never played his cards right every since he left Kershaw in Aces I get it you're looking for a double play maybe one run you're GonNa let him pitch to Howie Kendrick because he gives up a lot of ground balls and how Kendrick hits a lot of grumble have you been watching the game I'd say the only time these bad in the finals was against Dallas Energy for you started winning once he started winning you can't point to a finals performance go he's he wouldn't have a four out of him of ear had been taken out of the crowd and if there were any hopes of a comeback you could tell something miraculous was going to have to happen because the and the game is unraveling in front of your eyes that you see that it's coming unglued you see that somebody is having severe distress like Joe Kelley as foot down and take control because you you should know as the pitching coach that guy on the mound better than the skipper but if randy fund comes to Pat Riley and say hey you gotta get this guy out reinsure he did it but you gotta be you yeah you gotta be you gotta be decisive but you also gotta be convincing you have to almost put Benintendi to the dodgers is it right there with burr stole the ball from Isaiah Thomas is it like that kind of level of Oh my goddess I kind of think so even though it wasn't pal I wanNA make a hold of d'oro the reason to do so yeah now he has to answer all the questions this morning last night in pretty much his on the chopping block I would think Michael Iurie works obviously you played no more than keyshawn how would you were in the lexicon of awful sports moments do you rank what happened what do you do with the a coach that for lack of a better word is somewhat of a coward in these moments and the reason why I say coward the reason why I say cowardly what the heck's going on around here why is he still in the game house what's that feel like is a player when you can't stop what's happening the manager cannon chooses not to his John Not right now he's not right they never used their best relief pitcher until the game was over it's it's inexplicable defies explanation at that point I start closing my eyes man it's because it takes a tremendous amount of strength to say you know what I'm taking Clayton Kershaw out and someone who's resumes not as Impressive Record Randy Fund canton make him happy pal relationship and be able to say yo dog he's not I'm telling you coach he's and somebody who's coaching stashed and say hey man he doesn't have tonight let's get it but that's what I but that's what I asked Travis I said look at Rick Honeycutt the pitching coach and he probably did most likely I love to be able to here's what's going on here's what he doesn't do well in these moments here's why he doesn't do well in these your only newest is that he doesn't like going to Popeye's when he ran that can time was soda when yard on him instead of grabbing window hitting okay you should just say okay this is what I'm GonNa Mixing Actress Mix and match from that point forward something he didn't did this is their year to see them get one hundred six games and then fold up in the first round Oh yeah this is true this is traumatic tragic Michael Take me through it when you're player it was the last dude I pounded my chest for the last couple of days kershaw he he's straight is John starks moment in memory of John was like three for twenty in the next shot him out of the chance to win a championship against the rockets and that's what we saw last night at Joe Kellyanne you're right Dave Robertson mm coach and you're going to be the divergent it takes a tremendous amount of courage to look at Scottie Pippen and say dog I'm giving it to this guy it's tremendous right my eyeballs are telling you something else in the one example I can think of right off the top of my head it's when Phil Jackson decided you know I'm going to the hall of Fame Scottie Pippen but I'm drawn his playoffs Dennis is high school he's going to be kicking them at some point during practice as the emergency kicker the offense though whether it went over the fence by an inch or nine hundred miles like Sotos did they count the same they do count the same yeah no because when I was watching on spectrum and I'm listening to you in Ireland I'm sitting there I'm like well some may right here Oh nice explain to me jump back into the dodgers how can you call a gain in you're not there how can you call in a but I knew that there was a you guys call them based on watching television all right the show the people will take the calls from the people that's coming up in a little bit and talk about the debacle take the skipper lefty mean because he's looking at the hall of fame credentials and his past why is he in his done it before but he also has blown it before and this idea that you'd think he's GonNa do it even though he's blown it you think he's going to be born in front of your Faysal it thanks Keita's is this this new thing we discovered a couple of weeks ago it's called television on a tour okay yeah there's a satellite up above us that circle above us a sad day for the dodgers I wouldn't dedicate this song dodger fan house and that's not a big ask that's a pretty reasonable thing that rand on that was like a nine iron off his ankle went over the fence why did you guys GonNa Happen early I know why you're here so why don't you explain it what I had to Laker game early of course we just call that night to come over here because I'm doing Max on boxing with Max Kellerman AH listening in I was like Oh and he pulls up at three meanwhile rondos dribble Wa across half court lease already calling the next play I'm like something's not right starter right now he's blown it ball he's blown it on both the idea of putting him in there when they put him in there fine it worked he gets out of me the disaster calamity dodger stadium last night it's going to be crucial after seven seven ten yen Rajoub breaking news and look right since those doors open and they shut even faster does not I'm not saying that the door shut but you can't go into this you can't go in and so I think this is it breaking up in uh more things circling the earth and they beaming back down to the station being the pictures show up when this happens rectangle thing he got him out I don't need to see him anymore let's go back into the peon let's go ground could've gone my Ada Cole wreck and then the Janssen at that point now you gotta you're asking Kenley Jansen get four outs it is the morning show of the People's the you know the morning morning morning oh you are keith trusted he felt you like my guy that's why he's GonNa come through these caught famer no no no it's just that are in the L. A. Vicinity Okay I said I was certainly look over and think part of the reason why we were concerned I have never beat the Lakers well they were there every day trying to use the proverbial window and now they keep trying to open the window the same way they keep the now you might not be familiar with the songs the song by Neo but he helped us out song saying it's a break up song so hunt I am not playing correct the dodgers are young other opportunity to come in sports and you know this is what it is anywhere my coach injuries interested in is think of him in a five game series as someone you can rely on in a seven game series I go you know what you can start game four maybe but in a short series I is trending downward he's not twenty six and they're still one way to come back up no he's on the decline down it's not getting better the idea of sending him back out there the next inning fine but the auto zone hits a home run is gotta go God takes Travis and asked him it sucks that this was a game last night that Walker Bueller did exactly what he needed to do that Walker Mueller had an opportunity to be that guy to be the guy that learned about Kenley Jansen because he ain't looking quite right so I'll be trying to find myself another closer you better have this last name on their hold on to say the best Aj pollock it was nice meeting you. I don't WanNa see you ever again and then of course if you can't move kershaw what the one thing you can't do off-season thinking where we're young you'll be the option you have what are you gonNa do break it up blow them up can't do this need but really for the last year or so in his career that when he gets in trouble he can't get out of explain this to me Mr Baseball how come the skipper could figure out how to who'll walk a Bueller when he's you know Kinda just floating around giving up a run here yet there he can figure out how to pull him but he wasted a whole he was brilliant he was brilliant one earned run in two starts in pitch himself out of a tough spot a couple of times that he just went out there and people not bringing Kenley Jansen you had them fresh understand why I don't understand why did that though why wouldn't bring him in when he was fresh I just don't couple of things named Juan Soto and how Kendrick for those the two things come things are eight hundred miles per hours or a couple of things are leaving in pitchers too long decision but he can't make the Kershaw the Majeida the Kelly the Janssen decision there was a series of decisions after that that aren't you could have done this you could've done that he literally did the one as promised the show of the people talk to the people eight seven seven seven ten espn about what in the incur with you need a little bit when they were when they had Rasheed Wallace and Brian Grant and all these guys Jermaine O'Neal and they blew it up thinking they can't beat the Lakers never been the same world happened at Dodger Stadium last night we're still trying to figure out exactly why some of the decisions were made Dave Roberts made and whether or not that may ultimately end up costing him his job as the manager thing that didn't make sense every time they show with keyshawn L Z AND TRAVIS ESPN La Hills and ended up and struck out fifteen guys he was really crazy when he got in trouble he also found a way to get out of Toronto which is the thing that Kershaw has struggled with not just in this season he's going to come through right for what evidence to report Travis but didn't he just weighs pretty well in the playoff eighty no one does this is this is the problem was the dodgers a young they're going to be in this position for not playing that game which is really taking political well yea breaking news La Figure Snoop Dogg or Dodger Fan of course coaching the game Michael and he had a little some for the fans last night go ahead what would make it hard for us to keep him and do this mostly with them and just moved him to closer when we know Janssen's isn't trustworthy anyway and his arm is still there for to a point ninety five miles an hour and how to wipe out slider did did did Mike Not Watch the game last night where the guy through on eighty nine miles an hour you've got a guy threw an eighty nine on our slider question what should Dave Robert I say what should they do right now your question you asked was will he come back and he will he come back I asked that question because I didn't want him to come back out and I probably should host sense that the Falcons Oh there'll be back oh it was a disappointment against against the Patriots but the Guy Julio they got Matt Ryan they're young Whoa what's up Jessie what's going what's going on travis how you doing buddy all right man and you guys are the to phrase it differently I know it's probably what I should have said you sort of test Texas Dave Roberts traumas because I wanted to know because I'm sitting here watching Michael and I'm saying to myself aww straight Hollywood and Mike Mike your show what's going on hello first of all yes that day but as the only there he says we're breaking up because I know how you are never going to change they met Dave Roberts this job is just way too big for him he he lacks the in game instinct he inherits great talent alley this time and Louis Louis don't cuss on the air you're next what's going on I won't matter I've been on for that birth guys nut man what is he thinking ooh Curtis Kershaw also sees you get a couple of things that in right in right yeah something that I don't like and you're never going to those eighteen key may somebody needs to somebody needs to try to figure out people he goes gates of Calabasas behind the case Orange County to Orange Carton gotta leave me alone county eighty miles an hour who grows difference when I was a different time John smoltz low into the role as a closer because when John smoltz took over that role he still I'm from the from the front office he gets chosen the lineup card and when it comes to big games that matter he does the same thing all the time makes the wrong decision like you guys said we all people were questioning a lot of Joel Madden's decisions as well it just so happened they didn't cost him the series but it's not as if Joe Madden was bad uh closer kershaw shaky looking for eighty mile an hour closer I can remember the fact that he is spunky these teams to the world series and he went to Chicago cubs but if you go back and look at the coverage of that world series with the cubs him figure out the other stuff that's so crazy you're asking a good question you figure that out but can't figure the other stuff it's real easy you look up and go walk computers got one hundred ten just came Roy Moore dog I just can't he might pitch is all into he didn't pitch well into pitch tries night and guess what right words that I I think I don't think that Dave Roberts lacks the instincts I think Dave Roberts was a major league player a pretty good one he's had a ton of success as a major is not sliding and if we know one thing for sure carve carbon is when the pressure is at its greatest he is at his worst so what does it closer two thousand tons of managerial decisions along the way every single step he just it just worked out for here's the thing Louis to I don't know if the words you're using manager I think his instincts are pretty good I don't think what he has is the awareness of the situation it's almost like he's not watching what's happening he it's happening right there in front of him you saw what was happening you see the Joe Kelley struggling you saw the Clayton Kershaw had just given up a home run year looking at it I understand that you have the championship in other hard work in players to because he likes Kershaw in he offers both a Yankees and a dodgers fan I like Kershaw on our team I feel better about our team when Kershaw Justin Turner playing or they're on it so what's pitch in a decisive game pitch great he did his job he was tasked no complaint today and it's almost like it just never happened because of what happened after he left the Joe Madden before the angels it's not it's not a bad idea none of Phoenix interesting about Joe Madness that we ourselves if if bill was cool as they come but if something wasn't right and he he had no problem saying hey men in ain't feud with that in mind Louis Yeah remember why would explore a new voice as the manager Dave Roberts I would definitely not want to see Joe Kelley anywhere this is exactly what I'm talking about that it would be really refreshing if the conversation we were having for the first time ever with Dave Roberts was why did he do that so fast though the question with so you know what this is over he didn't have the heart to look at Kershaw after that I don left of left Turner and say not turned is always why did you wait so long he never moves early he always moves late and this idea of why did

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Jim Palmer on Sandy Koufax, Mickey Mantle and Hitting Batters

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

53:26 min | 8 months ago

Jim Palmer on Sandy Koufax, Mickey Mantle and Hitting Batters

"Baseball tonight the PODCAST. This is the baseball tonight. Podcast for Wednesday April Fifteenth. Two Thousand Twenty. I'm buster only working from my home studio in New York and working from his home studio producing from his home. Studio is Taylor Schwenk. They're sad news to report about Hank. Steinbrenner part of the Yankees ownership and son of George Steinbrenner. He passed away at age. Sixty three surrounded by family surrounded by friends former Kansas city royals and Chicago cubs manager. Jim Fry died on Sunday at age. Eighty eight this. According to the Atlantic League Somerset Patriots the Minor League team had been affiliated with since its launch in Nineteen Ninety eight the Patriots did not announce the cause of death employees. Major League Baseball teams are participating in a massive study that will test up to ten thousand people for Corona virus. Antibodies this according to Jeff Passan and is he writes. This should offer researchers a better sense of how widespread the diseases in major metropolitan areas across the United States. Doctors cautioned that the data gathered is not expected to hasten the Games return former Red Sox player in two thousand eighteen world series. Mvp Steve Pearce said. He has retired after a thirteen year. Major League career like Mark Reynolds. We talked about on the podcast yesterday. St Pierre someone who was very well liked and respected by teammates will Jackie Robinson Day. In baseball this is the day everybody in baseball wears number. Forty two to honor Jackie Robinson who broke baseball's color barrier in nineteen forty seven before we continue hall of Fame Week with longtime pitcher and broadcaster. Jim Palmer restores about alkaline about Mickey Mantle about Mike Messina and we talk with Paul in Bikinis. Here's a look. Jackie Robinson's legacy narrated by Vin. Scully in two thousand thirteen from MLB DOT COM. The second voice. You'll hear is that of Rachel Robinson. His wife and then longtime teammate. Don Newcombe the true measurement of a legend is. Its legacy now sixty six years after Jackie Robinson broke baseball's color barrier as a dodger. The legend endures. Today we celebrate the legend and those who have helped on the legacy people like Rachel Robinson Jackie's loving white who supported him and has continued to carry his torch. I wasn't young people to know that you can go through terrible times but if you form relationships and use those relationships to keep you strong you can make a difference. People like teammate Don Newcombe and Roy Campanella who pillars of of support during his playing days and endured the same bitter discrimination as Jackie her entry he said if this fails Jackie. This is going to be set back. Another thirty or forty years might never happen. You cannot afford to fail now. Can you carry that burden? Jesse Jackson's regarding Carey I will never forget Jaggi. I still think idle what he did for me. What he did for all black people in this world not just in this world. Today we celebrate the legend as does Major League baseball on every April. Fifteen as the new feature film forty two which prompted our first lady. Michelle Obama to recognize the sacrifices and strength of the Robinson is. This isn't just about watching a wonderful movie about about an important moment in history. This is about helping all of you believe that you can write your own history and demand more of yourself every single day. You have to do that and you have to pick up yourself when somebody knocks you down. Today we continue a legacy so that tomorrow they will. I'm extremely proud and pleased to be here this afternoon but must admit. I'M GONNA be tremendously more pleased and more proud. I look at that third base coach line one day and see a black face managing and baseball and Jackie Robinson more than a baseball legend and American lead. Today I think every American since as a special word of thanks to Jackie Robinson Will never forget the sight of Jackie Robinson before we hear from Hall of Famer? Jim Pong Hembo checkout today's episode of Espn Daily Two Thousand Twenty was supposed to be the dodgers year and a chance for Clayton Kershaw to get his postseason glory. What will this moment mean for the great pitchers legacy that on? Espn daily subscriber. Every get your podcast. You can listen to this episode in baseball tonight. Feet Palmer was inducted into baseball's hall of fame in Nineteen Ninety and he's been a longtime broadcaster for the Baltimore Oriels. Jim THANKS FOR JOINING US. And helping to distract said during this time. But we don't HAVE BASEBALL TO WATCH. While we all need distractions. You know if you're not white washing your hands. If you're not socially distant now I think you know I always supposedly had that. Love hate relationship with reliever You know the the later on we ever you know. Gotten Hall of fame. I think in nineteen ninety six. This would have been a perfect situation because I always wanted to distance myself at least six feet away from and I say that jokingly because you know we both ended up in the hall of fame and you know everybody said we had this love hate relationship but I think the the love part of was we liked it. We liked to win buster but And the other thing is just think about it. You Know Earl took the job in nineteen sixty eight at the All star game in until. Nineteen eighty-one year deals and for him to give me the ball every four days. All those years is pretty Pretty trusting so to speak and You know so again. We may have had our had our desktops in moments. Not that I was the only player that happened with but He always trusted me enough to be able to allow me to go out there every four days and hope that I would be able to help the Orioles win the pennant. It's funny you mentioned that. The joke about socially distancing yourself because might Messina's Moose as you know bought that house in the middle of the mountains up in Pennsylvania and I asked him if he could come on if he had some time and he goes. Hey I invented social distancing talking about as well you know I mean you know. I actually haven't seen Mike since he got an hall. Because I didn't I wasn't able to go and I knew that you know the first time I ever did with Mike was one nothing lost in Chicago and Frank Thomas who one of the few guys that Chris Frank Thomas in the hall of fame to over five hundred home runs but he he beat them one nothing home in under center field but I you know I tried to make that Comeback in nineteen ninety one. I believe that I was in spring training my Christina but once you saw him pitch I I knew I was seeing a guy who was who's good at any of the fish. Which ones of great staffs with Quasar McNally Flanagan and McGregor? He was as good or better than any pitcher I ever pitched with it. You know when you talk about a guy like my choir who we got from the Astros in nineteen sixty nine winter sixty eight sixty nine one. One hundred thirty nine games at seven years. People don't realize how good he was but mica do so many things to win. Of course he pitched in the steroid air. He pitched You know won. Seven gold gloves. I'm not sure I would have liked to pitch in camden yards. Being a fly ball pitcher with guys walking up the home planet looked like cartoon characters. Yeah you're exactly right. You know so many unique skills and one of my favorite memories about Mike was he got in the two thousand and one world series first year with the Yankees. You got absolutely pounded in the first game by the diamondbacks especially they're left handed hitters and I when I was covering the Orioles And then that year covering the Yankees I always chartered every game Mike. Pitch so news repertoire. Ninety one ninety two mile an hour fastball had the the curve ball had the change up and then when he starts his next game it makes his next starting game five of that world series. He comes out Easter on this pitch. Sits clocked at like eighty four eighty five and the diamondbacks are struggling this before you know super slow motion on television and I was trying to figure out what it was and I ran into the broadcast. Booth and Rick Sutcliffe and lakes. What is that he goes? I think it's is curve ball and like no no no. It's too fast so I thought about it and you know I thought about it and on the flight the Yankees. Win that game in extra innings. I thought about on the flight there. Zona and I walked up to meuse before game six and I said did you really blake breakout splitter in the middle of the world series and he held a finger up to his mouth and went sh- which to me like that to me was. Mike Messina Announce Marty was. Well you know just because you go to Stanford doesn't mean you're smart but he did go to. Stan was smart. So you know I mean I. Would you know we had Jimmy key and Scott Erickson and you know I I look at one day and then when I was broadcasting and he's bitching and I said so Is it easier now that you have you know You know you you got Jimmy key and you gotTa Eric's and You know on the same staff he says Jim. It's never easy. And I said okay mic. Let me let me rephrase that gives up less difficult so you know again you kind of had to be on your toes but I mean a marvelous that you're so happy to get into the hall of fame You know I mean you know if you look at the pitch to and it was a very difficult one to the over to the pitch in the destroyed homes about the size of an eight by ten piece of paper. You know you did have the. Pd's steroid era. You did pick him camden yards. I know you pitched on good ball clubs for most of those years which you know I certainly know about how that makes it less difficult. It's going to raise it that way but at the end of the day he you know he could really pitch and You know I think it you know. Nowadays we all know this. You know the only won twenty games and that was the last year and he looked at the irony. Because I saw that you said you know what he said. I just hope I win twenty because you know you did it eight times or whatever and you said I would like to do it. And then he ended up doing it in his last season in any retired so again. Margaret was pitcher. He you know if you look at that area you got grab it and you got bad actually got Randy Johnson. The obvious guys because they had over three hundred wins. But I think if you really wanted to look at guys and you've kind of touched on this. I don't know if I ever saw. And that's great pitchers buster. I'm not sure I ever it's would somebody or watch somebody 'cause that Could make adjustments in game as well as Mike Mussina and what you talked about the fact that you know. I mean he came up with a little bit of a split thing fastball. Something a little bit different you know. I saw him You know he did have a great changeup and he had to knuckle curveballs and you know to him. Or Four. Seamer kits those sides of the play but he came with a little cutter when he would get into fastball counts. Can't tell you the calendar ground balls. I would see being shortstop because it just had a little bit different focus. We talked to Jim. Cod reasonably your peer and told any tells a great story about Starting game seven of the nine hundred sixty five world series against Sandy Colfax and he said at that time that the starting pitchers always stood side by side before the game and had their pictures taken together and he remembers watching Sandy. Go out to warm up when he went out to warm up for that game and of course a year later you start date to the world series against the dodgers whose last appearance who sandy Koufax ever made and. I'm curious about your memories of that interaction with Sandy leading up to that game. Well you know I watch the six year my first year in the Big Leagues Sixty Five. So I'm just kind of occasionally spot starter but mostly out of both in that room and Robin Roberts early. In the year. He was thirty eight. I was nineteen. And you know he got put him to sleep asking him questions about one o'clock in the morning after Johnny Carson was a Gotha I'd say Robin and he goes get I'm twice your as you said we'll talk about this breakfast. I don't mean I had a great great mentor. And of course I watched that world series and I mean I also I used to. I used to go to Actually the coliseum. When I I I was in southern California fifth sixth seventh and eighth grade so I used to go to originally you know the Coliseum and the dodgers play. I saw Colfax again. Thank you five fifty six. When he had quite got his act together. You know the the guy that they wouldn't let warm up where anybody can see. It'd be out of the bullpen. Because he had command problems which I certainly can relate to. I walked two hundred and thirty and one hundred twenty nine innings enable and then went to instructional league and work on my wind up which is. Kinda what sandy did but I knew how could Colfax was and now sixty six? I mean if you go back and look at the game one you know we. We stayed at the Continental Hotel which gene autry who owned the angels out and he was there tonight. We got in on a on a Sunday night. He was actually there. You know the singing cowboy growing up with a Roy Rogers Gene Autry. If you're in that era and I mean I was kind of an on. We were going to the ballpark on the first Tuesday and laugh him was one of the popular. Tv's and they had a real estate thing and it said Set a three bedroom. Two Bath House Pool. It said God would you believe dodgers four straight? Well we win. You know the first Game Brooks and Frank Robbins at home runs in the first inning. I think really. What if you if you go back and then you look at the next three games game? Two three and four I I'd be Colfax six nothing really well. Abc Sandy that day because he dropped to fly balls and through the second one that he dropped on really wasn't a bright sunny day. Like you can get in San Francisco or Oakland. The wasn't any win. He just dropped him and picked up the second one and through the dugouts we got some unearned run so I got six months and I push my her shut out ever but I really believe that the thing that I did want to do is embarrassed myself. I think Sandy won twenty seven games that year. I think you could go back and look you know. Zero was under two runs a game. You know normally a Santa Colfax game would be one nothing to two one. Three two two fair. Maybe you know I think he pitched twelve shutouts and really. The only thing I didn't want to do is embarrassed myself but I think the key to that world series was no Jovanovski. Smoke came in relief Dave McNally and struck out. Eleven dodgers in six and two thirds innings. And you know after Brooks and frank hit. The home runs in the first inning. I said boy. We know we have a chance to win this game now. We had a good ball club. We had won ninety seven games only three more than we had one in sixty five when the twins as you mentioned went to the world series but they want to. Franklin's over its forty nine home runs two more in the world series is the MVP triple crown. But Motor basket. Came in and you know Mo- We have picked up for twenty five thousand dollars on a waiver wire and he had a great arm. Great Command great breaking ball and I was sitting there at age twenty going. You know. They're having a little trouble with a High Fassulo and on that particular day As I mentioned a pitch my first shutout you know my command was pretty good. The fact that Willie Davis made two errors really three years on to fly balls in an errant throw. You know I got enough runs where you know again. It wasn't a one nothing game. Which is what happened with volley bunker be coasting and game three or when the guy came back the Don Drysdale one nothing in Baltimore on a Frank Robinson. Home run so you know? I think a lot of times you you know. If you're pitcher like I am and you just go out there and compete and the stars were aligned. That day you know again because of the errors in fact it and who knew that I was going to be sands last game because he was coming off and just well typical. Colfax the The year you know if you go back in you know from sixty five to illegal you know maybe the early sixties to nineteen sixty six when he went on twenty seven games. What you remember about getting word that Sandy was retiring Was it a surprise for you? And did you ever get a chance to talk to sandy about pitching against each other that game? No but you know you mentioned the fact that you always you know you always Kinda pitchers with starting pitcher and you know on on the Monday before The first game is Tuesday. I think maybe the Wednesday game was the game that I believe. That's the day that I ended up pitching. I know it was game too. I remember taking you know. Shake hands with Sandy. But you know again when you grow up in southern California for forty years and you go to dodger stadium and You know people say well who you know. Who did you want to emulate? I wasn't left handed so I really couldn't be saying he coca. That could be done Drysdale. Who you know made every right handed hitter. They got into the box uncomfortable because he was very much like Bob Gibson. You know you again you go on your your rear end you know. Colfax you know. Sandy was more genteel. Probably I mean I probably was more of a right hand version where you know. I only think I hit thirty nine batters in maybe four thousand. Not that I couldn't pitch in I just. I was more of a kind of a vertical not horizontal pitcher like Drysdale it gets into whatever and Sandy was the same type of Guy. But you know anybody that you know. I mean I I you know I knew about the perfect games and the no hitters. I mean buster. Who Sandy Koufax you just like. I said you don't want to embarrass yourself and you know again i. I don't think anybody anticipated number. One the Orioles winning in nineteen sixty six because she mentioned dodgers. You know they'd beating the they'd be the The Yankees Sixty three. There'd be the twins the real good ball club and sixty five and then all of a sudden they're planning the Orioles and again. Why is we had a good team? You know we went ninety. Seven Games I think that everybody thought that their speed and especially to their pitching would dominated. And it's just amazing that one team in four games only hits one twenty five and that was the padding average for the dodgers against the oil pitching staff and sixty six. Yeah still by by by the numbers the worst performance for any team in world series history. You mentioned no no no no. Let's rephrase let's rephrase it was about reform of any so you mentioned you hit You know how few batters you hit during your career. Your manager Earl was was not in line with the thinking of a lot of other managers who believe strongly in retaliation he was. He was kind of ahead of his time. And I remember a story. We mentioned bike Messina early in his career you got. There was a huge dust up between the orioles and the Seattle Mariners and Mike hit bill. Hassell men because he was told to and then he got hurt in the subsequent brawl. Mike told me after that he said I never would do that again. how did you? How did you feel about about earls handling of those situations in the way that he viewed the whole question of retaliation? Well I played for from sixty nine through eighty two and the only time I ever remember him telling anybody to told anybody was the game. That in nineteen six Reggie Jackson came out. Remiss five Five weeks You know twenty nine runs a kind of cost us dependent because you know he held out him. You know you wanted a five year deal. The Orioles really didn't have much force on it because he would've signed for a lot less than he ultimately would sign at the end of the year as free agent with the Yankees. But we were. We were playing duck Alyssa stitch. And you know somebody tried to drop down. And you know doc you know. Look into the DUGOUT and yells. You know the next one of you so and so's I'm GonNa hit you right inside the head and Reggie got up on the third day he says you WanNa hit somebody get me. Well next time up got hit him right in the side of the face. The right between right below the jaw Maybe a little bit underneath the year and they brought the EMC truck right out on the field and they They took Reggie to go to hospital. And I go out to pitch the cop the ninth inning and I have a four nothing lead and Erlichs me as I'm going up the steps that he says you know. We can't let that happen now. That's the only time ever heard him ever do it? And as it turned out you know. The first hitter was elrod. Hendricks he'd been traded to the Yankees Along with the Rick Dempsey tippy Martinez Trade. And whatever and I'm not gonNA throw it the guy that common no hitter so I actually hung occur ball and they'll rats live out to deep centerfield for the first down. Here comes Mickey rivers and trying to hit Mickey Rivers. Because anybody that ever saw me play was marvellous player. But he was always moving. I mean he was like you know the guy you know the arcade bear. You're trying to get with a rifle when you're a kid to win the win price. Well definitely four pitches to nick him in kind of in the not ribcage but really got his uniform and of course he goes down to first base You know Because it's four nothing plays Bu Powell behind him and then This would be no Eddie. Murray hadn't been I'm not even sure who was playing first at night but anyway played behind him. He steals second base because they give him the stolen base. Roy White done single in. Now it's four to one so I I lose my shutout. I ended up getting two outs. We win four to one. We go to Detroit early in the morning the next day and they macphail when I mean walk into my hotel in League scale phone rings and it's like hey how's the family. How's the weather by the way he said I read in the paper where you you said that you were protecting your team that I said. Yeah I said you know. Ask The empires doc yell from the Mount Everybody here. It didn't hurt in in the MEZZANINE. Anyway he says that's GonNa cost you five hundred dollars and is so so for you know hitting the one guy that Earl Weaver. Gopi to hit. Which was Nikki Nikki River? And I didn't hit him in the face. I mean Nick them in. The uniform cost five hundred dollars. I got the Joe Cronin Award because I did a lot of work with. Cystic fibrosis. Got Invited to get the award at the place. And I'm sitting next to Lee and he goes by the way he says you know. I'm never going to five hundred dollars so I said Oh. Yeah I'll send you the check. Well I forgot about it all winter and I get a telegram from the American League Office today before going to Pitch Opening Day in Baltimore. You see if you expect pitch you know tomorrow. I need to get the money. So that's that's the Earl Weaver Philosophy you know but Yeh Grand Jackson came over eat. Somebody UP IN SEATTLE EARL. Ran Out to the mound. He said take a look at our third. Baseman is our third baseman better than theirs. In Bucks at yeah and he goes labradors shortstop right around the field because early one. Anybody her you know he just realized that if we had really good clubs if you played on you know you play it and you didn't get hurt and you didn't let your ego and you know get in the way of good sense. We were GONNA lot of games. And that's why Earl Gotten Hall of fame and we went to six world series. I looked it up by the way you were talking. Lemay was your first Baseman For that particular game I WANNA ask you about pitching to to to various hall of famers and what that was like I. I looked up your numbers against Mickey Mantle. He was one for fourteen with seven strikeouts against you. The one hit a home run. What you remember about Pitch Nam? And what was that like as a young pitcher the first time well you know we put on all shifts now and I mean. I'm I'm not sure I'd be a big advocate. A lot of the chefs. But I think the first time I'd say Nikki hit a ground ball to my legs I go you know you know. I kinda hung my head and the aperture you show who you know ends up in. The hall of fame is playing shortstop for us. In sixty five you know catches it throws them out the the one hits you talk about happened in nineteen sixty six. I believe in you know Mickey was at the end of his career. You know in the sense that his knees were pretty much much better hitter. What he was facing lefthanded pitching getting right. And then of course I was right and so I got this. Just ride the on him so I strike him out the first time afternoon. Game at the stadium and He comes up the next time. I think maybe the bottom the six at the bottom of the seventh inning and each baron. Who was catching said Nick. Choking up he says yeah. I'M GONNA try to get that high fastball and I go to balls and no strikes on them and I look over and Guess. Who's on Deck Roger Ramirez now even at age twenty buster? I was smart enough to know. You are not going to pitch around key but the two you know with the two nothing lane onto and okay. Now you're GonNa try to give them some hit well. I talked a little bit off to try to throw a strike and there used to be football spotters. Box done the third deck just to the right of where the bullpens were both ends and back then were up there shoot and right field and up to shoot the you know the visiting team. Buffy Willie is splintered the box I mean it. It didn't go as high wasn't a game like you know. Robert Redford and the national in the national but it was close enough. And that's the only Nikki Mickey ever got off me but you know. I saw him hit his five hundred runoff. Stu Miller and at the stadium and somebody tweeted you. Know what are you doing now? You know your social distancing yourself. You're washing your hands trying to get some exercise you know probably watching more TV than you really need to do but somebody. I tweeted the other day. They said you know Mickey Mantle or did you grow up I said is that when Mickey Mantle. I mean I grew up in New York. I was adopted at birth I love the Yankees. My Dad just like billy crystal talks about city slickers he. He took me to the stadium in nineteen fifty four was a Tuesday night. It was before color television and when I walked up with that. You know up up up the stadium ramps. It was raining that night and I think Allie Reynolds pitch for the Yankees and make our C. Pitch for the Indians. I didn't like the Indians and fifty four is a beat. The Yankees would lose for the giants in the world series but that was my first time and then ten years later I came in and relief of a Frankie Bettina after. Fill in hidden in the hand in loaded the bases up. You're a couple of guys on an infield hit and then struck out trash handle emerson about twelve high fastballs so you never forget the kind of things when you're dreaming about being a major league player so I always Kinda was a Yankee fan but Nikki was was my guy early on not that I didn't like Yogi or you know John Blanchard who seemed to always hit a home run on Saturday when the Yankees were on. Cbs With the recent in Dizzy Dean. So you know again when you grow up as a Yankee Fan boy. What a what. An honor is to pitch against the Yankees Harmon killebrew against you. One thirty three average in twenty strikeouts and he was my perception of him. I I only talked to him. One time was that he was one of the more genial guys in baseball again. I'm curious because you're both hall of famers. Did you ever get a chance to talk to him about the talking to hitters at the hall of fame about your shared experiences? Well I tried to do before that. They used to have an American airline golf tournament where they would have baseball. Players play with football players and I always try to think hitters. You know You Know Ron Santo I you know I hung around with him. One One of those golf tournaments I mean they would have them and you know it would be either being a wii or maybe Puerto Rico or or Phoenix or palm springs and Fact you know so I I was always trying to pick their brain and then of course Santa Baby. Two to one on a home run in the eighth inning in Chicago and I go. He was doing the same thing. But you know Harman Harman was the first guy that hit him so far that he would actually and I don't I don't think he ever tried to show up interest. But you know in the old ballpark that Metropol Metro Metropolitan Field or park or whatever they call it. In Minnesota there used to be a seat way up in the The the upper deck. I mean it was so far and I think Karma hit two home runs off Jack Sanford and somebody else went back to back and you know those were. Kinda like the red seat and Fenway Park. Where apparently Ted Williams set of all the ball was just as it has been the last couple of years but armor would hit him so far and I you know I ended up. I mean I lost three two one one Sunday afternoon Baltimore. I struck him out the first three times up to him alone. Away fastball David Johnson made an error couple of guys on and he hit over the right center field fence. So harmon was very much like Frank Robinson Frank our great hitters that I faced in that era where it wasn't just mistakes. I mean you could. And this was a pretty good fastball. Except you know this was harming Gulliver but I was sitting with them on my table. You know when you go to the hall of fame. And he goes to the induction. Come back to the to the ODA Saga Hotel. And then they have dinner with league presidents which they don't have any more now with the commissioner and they give the hall of famers that are inducted. The the rings and I'm sitting. Let's see I got Ryan Sanford. My laptop got gaylord to his left. And then we go round table. We have Ferguson Jenkins and I You know we're talking about TD's and all that in arm and looks across the tailing says Jimmy. I just don't think I could of cheated not like that when I go Arman. You didn't need that. He was that type of guy and You know I mean just like you know I think one of the You know we're going to nineteen affected so many people around the world best and people losing their jobs and how to work and all that you know and then you You Know One of the true gentlemen of the game alkaline passes away You know it's it's been. It's been a tough spell. I think for all of us but you know he asked me about Al and of course you know my first start in the big leagues was nineteen sixty five when I was nineteen against any McLean. I hadn't pitched since spring training as far as starting and I got really went over the hedge. You know the title game up in the In the seventh inning. Probably through about one hundred and forty pitches even though I hadn't probably throwing more than sixty all spring training but but al Kaylynn comes up tonight and you know I knew who was And I struck him out first time and Dick Boundless. Catching forest and from a fastball curveball. The next time to strikes in Dick put down a changeup and I- drama change hits it off the foul pole for Solo homer and I'm nineteen and you know so I said okay. We won't do that again. And then the third time I throw him. I don't know ninety. Six seven. Eight MPH fastball. On Way and he gets a A single into right field buster. This is went even at age. Nineteen I'm I'm sitting. You know what there are going to be hitters that I face that are better than I am. I you know I've learned. I mean I think the first guy face you know. They're really taught me. That lesson was out Kaylin. You know couple of two thousand twelve. We had all the statues yet and one a month of all the hall of famers retired numbers and at the Tigers are in talent and Al. Actually you know came to the to my ceremony July. She came to the ceremony sat on the field. My Stepson Spencer who has autism ran out on the field. And and introduce me. You know a lot of people didn't think you do it but he you know he loved to. I never could have done it when I was years old. But let's hear it for a number twenty two still the greatest. The most amazing. That's exactly what he told me to say. Jim Palmer and then Spencer runs off the field and I see Al afterwards. He said that was something and then two weeks later at the induction. I up at hall of fame in Cooperstown. He says you know. Every time I think about that. I tear up because it was such a great thing to see a child with autism. You know and of course you know he's been with Tiger I dunno forever And Jim Price does. Radio has two kids with her autistic and So he kinda knows about autism but you know it. It's just amazing. Buster and you know this as well as somebody covered baseball forever. You know a lot of times. I think we look at players when we say. Oh yeah this guy you know the four or five tool player like Alec out because how could do everything one tengo gloves almost hit four hundred home runs three hundred ninety nine but she's a lot of times it just takes a little special things that happen in life that make you realize not only. Was this guy great player but he was a great person. Oh and that that came through in the tributes that came out from people who knew him. I got a text message that night after we got word about L. passing from Brad. Osma so of course. It was a manager with the Tigers. He said look. I don't have a social media following but I really want to put this out there and talk about what a what a great person he was and you know people were talking about. What type of player was as much about what What a great person he was. We talked to Bruce Bocce the other day who someday you know. He's going to be making a speech cooperstown and be the ODA saga with you. And I asked him because he managed Barry Bonds and I asked him how he felt about the question of. Pd's new mentioned You know the conversation with Harmon. Killebrew and boches feeling is that he he. Almost you could tell. He defers to the people who were there. He said look people in the hall of fame. They're they've that this is come up and they've they've made their feelings clear and I would respect their feelings on it as time has gone on. Is that change your feelings about it. You know who I mean. First of all You know four hundred forty. Four baseball writers noted for me You know when I got the call from Jack. Lang was about an hour and a half later because they thought I was at another restaurant and they were trying to find me and you know he says kind of good news and badges and he said well the bad news thirty. Three writers didn't vote for you but the good news is four hundred eleven. Did I didn't vote for myself. So I learned in nineteen ninety that You know it's it's a very exclusive club. Obviously I mean. It's you know when I hear I got in a long Joe. Morton was one of the great players to MVP's and on some of the great team. Cincinnati Reds Games We got rained out and the so instead of having the induction on Sunday. They headed into Jim on Monday. You know I I said we need to go out and acknowledge the people is there. Like I don't know ten. Slow thousand imploring ranged. When we went out everybody stood up the umbrellas and I mean it it it just you know chills through your body so you know how I think if you ever go to the only Oh baseball game but if you go to Cooperstown you realize love affair that people that that that care about baseball half and they show it on induction weekend you know. I mean. I don't know if we're going to have it this year but obviously you're going to see a lot of people that had the luxury to the Derrick. Jeeter play so You know it's but what I did find out that that induction weekend is that they had the dinner on Sunday. Night and Stan musial who can one of the great hitters of all time with this? You know eight hundred and fifteen at home and eight hundred fifteen on the road and when you're GONNA to lead doesn't get a home run rate out. He would allow the national league in singles doubles. Triples home runs. Rbi's on base. You name it down the list in the world but he had been sick the year before and Ted Williams grabbed the microphone and started just talking. About how great it was to see stand back and better health and then pass the microphone around and right then I realized we even made the speech and more more difficult the next day when I follow. Joe Morgan is that you know these guys. You know it's an exclusive club you care about itself you know I mean. Obviously you know boxing. Great pitchers he didn't talk to these guys when he was bitching against them. But now you can actually be friends. You know you kind of alluded to it. When you're sitting at a table with an arm and killing you actually get to talk to a guy that put a lot of fear in your heart so But I guess buster you know who's to say. There aren't guys in the hall of fame already that have done. Pd's you know. I mean I look at you know bonds who you know. I was reading today The the athletic and Joep is at Sanski at him number two player. I think anybody that ever had a chance to see Barry Bonds. Play early on no. He was hall of Fame Player. Five tool guy. You know that me one. I don't even know how many NBA peasy won. I you know clemens was the same way. But it's it'll be very interesting when they they're getting closer and closer but I'm not going to register is the hall of fame. Game Sim Viable to be hall of fame. Because I don't vote You know have a lot of respect for Berry You know I played against his dad. Who is a marvellous player? you know. Same with Roger So you know I played for. Cal ripken senior so I learned early on a ball. There are no such things too short so I it probably would have been difficult decision to make when you see other people doing it or other guys. Are you know hitting sixty five? Seventy home runs. Maybe or whatever it maybe. There's an inkling or something to do you know as far as doing that But at the end of the day you make a great point we don't you know Bruce. This is perfectly right He. He's not gonNA vote himself in. You know if it was easy you know he'd already be in there and we all know what three world series and motivate five years. So you know he's going to get there you know. I went on a cruise with him. I don't really like him. Because he beat me at Ping Pong but other than that great manager was you know I blamed it on the high seas that but but you know again so I i. I just think you know when you get to the hall of fame or are you talking about the hall of fame boy a special special club that You know you're just happy to be in there and you know the great thing about it is once you get past your first. You know the induction weekend. Then you actually can go and have a good time. Oh that'd be great. Video told us that the other day that after the exactly it's easy and it's fun at. It's very comfortable at last one for you. You know you mentioned the the. The writers didn't vote for for you. That bothers me when I go back and I look at the voters didn't vote for Hake Aaron and Willie mays and Jackie Robinson and this year. We had one voter who didn't vote for Derek. Jeter I don't get it and I. It bothers me D. Does it do you care at all about that when you follow that we saw the was a few years ago? I think three or four writers didn't vote for Gingrich junior and I can't stand that well. That's because they WANNA be different. I guess you know I mean. How do you not vote for you? Know Dimaggio or I mean what didn't mind you have to get in the first year or something I'll come on you know. Yeah Right. Because he didn't stay married to Marilyn Monroe. I mean I don't know you know I don't look at that. I mean you know like I mentioned jobs inskeep name. I'm not even you know somebody said you must be in the top one hundred players and I said No. I didn't make the list and I but you know people all you didn't strike out enough guys You know I asked the An Analytical Writer in Baltimore a couple of years ago I said so I should be. You can get numbers is it. Good my strikeouts. Go Up with a runner at third in less than two outs you sit. Oh Yeah went up twenty one percent. I said well there you go so you know I mean you know and I read an article in espy nation. That I was lucky. Solid fame pitcher because my batting average on balls in play was to thirty nine for my career and you know and I had good defensive players so therefore I should be penalized but let me bottom. Line this for you. I was really fortunate to play with some of the greatest glares and then some of the greatest asks the reason famous. Because that's exactly what happened. You know I mean You know I had you know hall of fame manager Earl Weaver. Everybody says you know I mean I mean. I've been watching. Ken Burns some of the baseball. Don Boswell said I had complexes on top of complexes and whatever and I wouldn't have won fifty games without earl weaver. I won fifty games. I one hundred sixty eight games. 'cause I played with some of the best players ever and you can just go. Down listing some of them aren't even in the whole thing. You know the players the Mark Andrews with eight gold gloves. The you know the rich coggins who with two outs in the ninth inning. Mike Ferraro hits. The ball is going to hit the chalk. Line and and Rick and Richie sitting on the line or standing in line almost as straddle and catches the ball. Sure double. You know to nothing. Lead to outs in the ninth inning. And you know I'm waiting to come in and I said what were you doing? There racist played against guy last year. I knew he couldn't pull you. I knew what you would do. Well that's how you get to the holiday. I mean that's you just have players that come out of a great organization you WANNA win know how to win. No you have to do it together. And it's Kinda like we're GONNA do. Nineteen you know where we're not gonNA beat this by ourself. I didn't get the hall of fame by myself I I. My parents told me to sign with the Orioles because I could assign with any team of the year before the draft and it turned out. Well you're exactly right cool. Jim Stay safe as always amazed by your memory. I'm amazed by your knowledge and I appreciate the time. Well you're welcome. I made most of this stuff up muster. But maybe I'm not GonNa see I guess the big question will I see Arizona? Are we actually GONNA play any baseball at all this year? Hopefully that'll be a help. Anyway you take your jumping into the numbers evaluating millions of data in Cincinnati by two hundred. This is Hembo knows. Ammo has Paulin Makita research read. Espn is onto also a haunt show on the show. Get up. He tells us he's the head Honcho. I have not confirmed that yet. Hembo Thanks for listening to the. Podcast interviews. We've been doing and You've got a chance to listen to the Jim Palmer interview and he made. He made some references to his unusual relationship with his manager. Earl Weaver he sure. Did I mean it seems that you know for the entirety of their relationship? It was he described it as you know as the `social distancing before it was before it was cool but it what what strikes me. Statistically as the orioles were the winningest team in baseball during early verse tenure with the team and Jim Palmer durability enabled him buster to employ famous for man rotation as you know color ranks third all time with one hundred. Thirty two wins on three days rest. He talked about that in a podcast behind only Walter Johnson and Warren Spahn and he posted a higher percentage than either of them in those starts. He we talk about with him about his start against Sandy Colfax nineteen sixty six. That's a special badge of honor for a young pitcher. Jim Palmer was back then but it was a precursor what was to come. Jim Palmer is the only pitcher to throw a postseason. Shut up toward the age of twenty one in like you said he did so against Sandy Koufax in the dodgers in game two sixty six world series Palmer is also the only pitcher to win a world series game in three different decades and in three consecutive years bus birth spinning nineteen sixty nine to nineteen. Seventy-one Palmer three complete game to clinch the American League Championship series allowing a total of six runs in those twenty seven innings. I mentioned earlier this week. On the PODCASTS. My favorite stat about Jim Palmer was that during the course of his career. He never allowed a Grand Slam. What he make of that well. It's wild he's also he also never allowed back to back homers which I think is equally wild As far as the grams are concerned opponents. Posted an opium of four thirty two against Palmer with the bases loaded. That is the lowest for any pitcher to face at least a hundred batters in those circumstances. Sin that data became available in the year. Nineteen seventy four. You're kidding I I didn't know wow Texting to make sure that he hears that. No today with the once. The podcast post and it's always fun. I always think to talk to all time greats about other all time greats and get their observations and he talked about Mike Messina retired buster of the all time leader and postseason innings without a world series ring. A distinction now held by Clayton Kershaw but Messina's Era in the postseason of three point. Four two was lower than repay Joe Martinez and Randy Johnson and Jack Morris and Andy Pettitte. He was more clutch than many of his contemporaries that we perceived as such further buster Maecenas metronome. There were eleven seasons in which you qualify for the title with an adjusted the array of one twenty five or higher at least twenty five percent better than the league average. The only other lightbulb pitchers to pull that off or Roger. Clemens Lefty Grove and Greg Maddux just as a fan would you think Messina revealing that? They ran that tape out to left. Centerfield at Camden yards and found the distance where it says three sixty four to be three forty six. I Love I love this story and I love the way a Lotta understanding that he has like. That's the kind of story that I would. If I was telling you I would try to build it up Mike. We see a delivered at just as Mike. Mussina was. He was he was just so himself in. That interview is tremendous and last thing for it today. Jackie Robinson Day when he got there I maintain the opinions. You know that Jackie Robinson breaking the color barrier was the most significant event that occurred on American soil during the twentieth century. I think it goes without saying the importance that it had in baseball from eighteen. Eighty seven to the year in which he broke the barrier. Obviously there were no black players in the big leagues. Also I think you could argue that culturally. His impact was Equal to or at least close to that of Martin Luther King Junior so I think he is on a on a pillar with Martin Luther King Junior in terms of what he established culturally and historically by Duke by breaking the color barrier a couple of notes. I'd like to throw in about Jackie Robinson. Some people probably know some people probably don't it was actually Monte Irvin who was shoved choice of the meagerly owners to be the first black player to integrate but he hasn't had wartime obligations in turns out. Obviously fate had it that Jackie Robinson had that distinction. I think we can all agree that work out just fine. Further from nine hundred forty nine thousand nine hundred sixty two buster eleven of fourteen. Mvp's in the National League were African American. That group includes Jackie himself. Includes Roy Campanella Willie Mays Don Newcombe? Hank Aaron Ernie Banks Craig Robinson and Maury Wills. He's very much opened the floodgates and broke down the door for these guys who came in in a rush right away and and and that's been a fourteen years eleven black players on the National League. Mvp and the last thing that I'll say -buster as for as much as he did for as culturally significant as he is. I think sometimes we forget how great baseball player Jackie Robinson was in the ten seasons spanning nineteen forty seven to fifty six the span of his career Stan. Musial was the only player to produce more value by wins above replacement than Jackie Robinson. If he had if he had done nothing culturally or historically significant whatsoever he would be remembered as a much greater ballplayer than he actually is. He was a true superstar for nearly duration of his ten year career. And oh by the way he didn't make his debut until he was twenty eight years old. So maybe we didn't even see the you know the actual Prime Jackie Robinson as opposed to you know in nineteen forty six And maybe at the end of nineteen forty five because he did serve in World War Two Yeah just remarkable player remarkable figure. Can you believe how many people didn't vote form? The yeary came up for the hall of fame. I mean Jim Palmer said about that I feel the same way it just. It boggles the mind when I see that the people who didn't get votes for the hall of fame. If you're building a baseball rushmore there are two prerequisites on that on that. Mount Rushmore Jay Robinson Babe Ruth. Another and we can argue about the other. Two A hundred percent agree about. Thanks for doing this. Cleaner Boys Leisure tweets all ready. Buster bleacher tweets for Wednesdy centigrades. At centigrades writes in that he really enjoyed yesterday's interview with Mike Mussina and he says Moose finally won twenty games in his very last season. What do you remember about him? In his final year. That was different from previous years. Most made reference to the fact that he had to make adjustments throughout his career changing throwing from different arm angles picking different pitches he actually remember specifically as he slowed down the velocity. It was a curve ball. You know. Typically in his prime he'd been if I remember correctly like seventy nine to eighty miles per hour on that curve ball. I can remember times in his last couple years where he was throwing like seventy one seventy two so he. He built up the differential between his fastball. And his off speed pitches. I felt like so that it was effective for him in that last year. Tyler Burnett Rates in at Tyler Burnett Twenty eight. He has an interesting question. Do you know this did Mariano. Rivera get a New Jersey on Jackie Robinson Day. Or did he get to wear his normal one now? He got to wear as normal one on the day that the first Jackie Robinson Day was held which was og April fifteenth in one thousand. Nine hundred seven Bud ceiling basically grandfathered in everybody who wore number forty two to continue to wear their own number forty two. I remember. I was covering the mets butch. Huskey was their third baseman and he got to continue to wear forty two and so did mow got to wear number forty two now. I'm guessing that I don't know this specifically if there was asleep. Patch of some kind. I'm sure they added it to his uniform but it was his uniform interesting. Last one up from Portland Maverick at the battered B.'s. He's putting out a conspiracy theory out there. I'm picking up Taylor's laying down in abundance of Orioles interviews coincidence. I don't think so next will be subjected to the likes of Eddie Murray Brooks Robinson Frank. Robinson Cal ripken wait. That actually sounds awesome. Great Work I don't think it's it's not actually conspiracy theory. I think I've just seeped in your subconscious buster and you're on some level you're like what would Taylor enjoy listening to write? It might have a little bit to do with the fact that these are people I know and I covered the Orioles. I know Mike. Mussina and covered. Billy ripken. Jim Palmer Yeah that probably has something to it but it has been interesting. I thought about that. Have an Oriole pitchers of back to back days? Not Complaining over here all right. That's it for today my thanks to Jim Palmer to Hembo detailer Thanks for listening. Everybody stay safe and on our way out more on Jackie Robinson and in this clip. You'll hear from Jackie from peewee resources. Lucky enough to meet. When I was eleven years old. Eddie Stinky Rachel Robinson from the Rogers Photo archive give in that summer of forty seven. Very Few people knew that pee. Wee Reese Jackie Robinson. We're going to be great teammates. They would become the boys of summer. Jackie Robinson though not embraced by all of his teammates did indeed win them. Over by one. Pee Wee reese another southerner was the first to really embrace you easily from the outset. Felt that if I were the only white guy trying to break in all Black League. I want somebody to be my friend. And he says the Jackie Robinson has with Bill. They can make it. That's all I'm going to have. We had some deep South Boys on real down in Alabama and Georgia. And they didn't appreciate it. Oh and if you sat down and played cards with Jackie or something they would let you know about him. You know we'll play with it so and so I'm usually pretty nice gathered to fill it out. Jackie Robinson was the most aided man in the world there was no one else can comprehend gives loneliness. His isolation wasn't until the dodgers went on the road and his teammates saw how he was turned away at the front desk of the hotels are hardcore. Southerner like Eddie thank. You could see that. This was a social injustice. Are we going to Saint Louis of on the bus poor Jack? Had you got another hotel? That's off but the never changed his personality or or thoughts about the game would game started at pitch. He was all ball all managed. Only with this woman. Rachel Robinson Jackie's widely pretty lettuce guard. He was a lonely man on an island with very few friends. Only Rachel could comprehend how difficult that first year was for. Jackie disappointed at times after a straight edge solution down but he would pick himself up. He's very resilient and very determined really stubborn about the thing. He was going to make it work. Thanks for listening to the baseball tonight. 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#1725 From hustling on Coney Island at age 10 to building a $45M memorabilia business

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#1725 From hustling on Coney Island at age 10 to building a $45M memorabilia business

"It freedom fighters. My name is Andrew Warner on the founder mixer g where I interview usually tack software entrepreneurs about how they built their businesses. But joining me today is an entrepreneur who I met at a conference I flew to be at this mastermind run by Joe so to speak and sky was speaking with me, the only other speaker there other than the host was a guy whose book was got balls. And even heard of this guy will what is this is gonna do. And then I heard it was memorabilia, I thought interesting, and then I heard the guy talk, and I just loved it. I loved his book it's called out upside down gotta have balls. I read it about how this hustler entrepreneur who started out with nothing ended up building phenomenal business that among other things sold Yankee Stadium in dirt and other things to collectible to collectors and by on here to talk about how he built his business and to talk about why his follow up. Book is living on purpose instead of how to make more money, which is something your mom, always told you to do Brandon. I wanna find out why you're doing that. And we're gonna do it. Thanks to phenomenal sponsors, the I will do your Email marketing, right? It's called active campaign and the second will help you. Find your next phenomenal developers called top towel. Brennan. Good to see you. Nice three year friend good friend of what kind of turnover you guys doing. What's the annual revenue at at Steiner, sports and Steiner sports marketing and memorabilia, your company, we've we've been pretty constant forty forty five nine Dr top wind business, we have about seventy five employees. You know? I haven't been driven to drive. I know it's not gonna be popular. I say this. But we've been driven to have the most insane growth as opposed to having better, quality ideas and products. Remember on the marketing business your procurement athletes now. Has a lot of growth consensual use getting athletes to appearances stuff and marketing stuff in campaigns collectibles is a limit. So my job is as creating these products. Is there not have enough? So sometimes it does work against the growth thing. But we we do. Well, we make money, and we have a we have a lot of great customers. And so we're in around that top line forty million. I feel like you're working your tail off. I don't even know what the hell you're doing here. Talking to me to be honest with you, like the conferences over you shot me, an Email to talk about the chat bots that I was using and how you can integrate it in your business. You've got a Facebook page year grow at wonder why dude you've made it you don't how many extra customer you're gonna get by having me on. Why are you doing this? Why are you still working so hard? I'm joy. I mean what I like doing it? I have a balance to that not a work life balance. But a balanced soon. You know, what I wanna do? But think about this. I've done. Well, I enjoy what I'm doing. If I don't go home, no problem. But I think that you know, every day I'm able to use the influence. I have to help others which is not a burden to me. It's -joy. Really? So when I get to meet somebody like yourself, who's lots more than the about a lot of things that I really don't know all out about, and it's a real it's a real lesson frankly, and I'm still learning. I'm still interested in I'm so curious and every day, I promise myself Ossis owes aval success financially that I would spend a percentage of my day rowing in helping others not just money grabbing and just trying to figure out ways just to make more money. And I think I'm a more well rounded person of probably been a friend, and I'm learning. I I still think my best days in front of me. I want to hear about what you what you're doing with everything that you've learned how you sold art. I thought it was it. It sounds kinda easier. I you sell dirt had seems kinda cute. But the way that you kept leveling up was interesting. Let's go back in time. I circled this one phrase in your book what else because it just kept coming up all your. Stories and I told you before we started gotta have balls as a cool title. And I think you're right of named at that. But boy, the what else were what else phrase is almost more important to your life. Let's talk about how it express itself, you were doing daily news delivery as a boy, and you want to this woman in this building apartment building. And you said what to her while? I was in Brooklyn it the book, you gotta have balls was dedicated my mom who was always what else. What else what else and always say what else times? What's next is what get your first market? We thinking what else? What's next gets I market? And my mother was always never satisfy whatever came back through with. She was always went us highly differentiated off, I need you more. So I go to this lady. And I'm trying to open up as many counts as I can. And I was only twelve at the time in an overall the most accounts were win extra candy bars. And I'm trying to figure out some acting. This woman got eighty. Old seventy five years old ask if she wants the paper delivered. She says now, ma'am, the same prices me as a quarter store eight cents says yet, but then I got Scipio and she kinda shut the door on my face. And I went home. I told my mom like the people is neighbor, so cheap. Our why we live here is terrible. And my mother said, look, I gotta say a couple of valuable lessons. Here. One is differentiate yourself what else can you do for this woman? And you gotta stop selling start serving, you know, start solving entrepreneur Sava problem. You're just trying to sell something you're not gonna get anywhere. So I'm going back knocking on doors. Nothing. I mean, I am really scrapping. I go back to this woman's house apartments is like the fourth floor is like ten thirty at night. It's like, are you crazy? What's rollers and Samantha's had to come back to you? If there's a rental downpour snow storm blizzard. I mean, he wave a woman says your age should be outside getting newspaper. If I bring you milk and bagels are Wednesdays. And Sundays which you get the paper delivered for me, then I'll never be late opportu at seven thirty. So you get the same value may be better. And I'll get you these other things if you need something else like a free to was unbelievable. That story is not only that women sign up, but she was friendly with everyone in the neighborhood and went from twenty nine daily one hundred ninety nine twelve hundred ninety nine dailies two hundred thirty four Sundays swagger, but the mainland Siler net for anybody listening is are you listening to your customers really listening to the market and really understand what people need not just about. What you want to sell and serving you saw me a problem in your protest. What you're selling what you'd servicing people with you are on welfare grownup. Yeah. Topping the food stamps embarrassment. Specially we're we grew up in middle age home a middle-aged neighbor. I mean, middle income neighborhood and lived over Glock OSHA butcher over a store, which was pleasant. And it's. You know, we we really don't kosher. I didn't understand this until I read your book. They're actually slaughtering chickens in a glut. Kosher butchery because they wanna make sure that the coat that. It's Lord kosher. And so you're living in that type of environment. I read in your book about how was super cold when they closed on on the Sabbath. You wouldn't have any heat? You had two times going call the police and get him to turn on the heat or you'd go and break locks going. But let's talk about an embarrassing moment. Growing up in that environment where everyone's doing fairly well for themselves. What's one of the moments that stands out for you? As like, the most embarrassing was the depend situation was something else. So many. I mean, you're obviously we had to go to the electric company. I handle the checkbook starting around ten or eleven we wouldn't have enough money to pay the electric, and you go to the woman. Please ask you to hold the check. Turner for electric city, or even when I was at the appetizer counting the supermarket are trying to get a quarter of a pound salami. She says the over it's okay, I'd say, no, it's not, okay. Better off. I have enough money xactly for the pound. And I went up to front of my glass when I was in fifth grade, Mr. Kerber, and he gave me an envelope of money, which was you know, to help pay for clothing beside Ripa my right knee everywhere in the same pants for three row. I mean, you know, you don't realize when your kid, you only know what you know, at that point. I knew that we didn't have a lot of money. We are trouble. And then had to give it countable to get serious. And that forced you to go and get a job. Yeah. I mean, I think it's the young probably work at ten, but I did. And so I never wake up in the morning worried about five work or make money 'cause we start doing that at San on streets scheme in dreaming that ten is trying to fair you've got also you can make money legitimately. We that's a that's a big thing. Like, an an. Figured out that my mother kind of guiding me helped me law, which mice games some right? Like what what's what's an example of a scheme grown baking bagels? And I come home. I said mom, I got this idea. I'm going get a van cop side of the van a Bego on top of the van, and I'll go up and down the streets on the weekends and people go pick up their bagels, go to the bagel store. If it gets aims of cream cheeses Melissa's. Let's really good idea. You're fourteen. You can't drive. Always like on each cell, conditions, koneohe beach and did sell it. I was so conditions. Go Soeda and those bags or the soda was really heavy. But you know, he makes quick money wasn't cranking sort. I did I buy these big packets Oreo cookies now like now is silly levels of stars work rookies. Few board Oreo cookies three sleeves one big back. When I did I got the Baggies, and it would take three Oreo cookies put in a little baggy, and I saw cookies and all the kids would come. Then. I'd sell my initial goal soda. Scheme dream of different angles of how to differentiate myself whenever I was selling stuff. And I think the real pointed stay one more quick story is when I knew I was an entrepreneur is my mother own a salon to touch. Listen. I want you going meet the Ellena white. He fires people to get air guts and washing sets during the week. Hundreds of people come off, the f train our king style way was in express. And my mom law was only to box from there. He said I'm busy on Friday and Saturday get busy during the week. So when referred my mom's launched like not lied about flyers underneath the L up. I'm giving flies we talking about. I gotta cover you talking about your year. Could you be underneath EL as I got four kids. One of each entrance. Is math fact, I went to to other stores fires for them. She's well, how you paying them severe easily the kids enabled a lot of the parents don't wanna work giving fireworks hustles fanatical by some fireworks and giving a fireworks and thinking cats the other people, Amy. On the flyers. I'm making money on that. And the kids are static because they want the fireworks fireworks. And I'm supervising I'm working very all right now four people working two hours a new four kids coming on. So we work two hours. And that's what my mother said. There's something very wrong with the. That was too much even for her fourteen or fifteen that kind of scheme in that was pretty good. Do you ever worried that your kids won't have that? I mean, your kids are old enough now that you can see how they turned out largely due. Did you worry at the time you're setting them up much better than your parents set you up? Oh, yeah. I mean, I I worry my wife, and I argued quite a dip is remember my kick him our room. It's his dad. Can you take me to school on my no, look like a taxicab driver? My limo driver. Now that I can't take him. I know you God gave you two feet is a school bus a couple blocks away figure it out his dad. I'm nine I'm like, I know you're not you're not man, I won't everyday. Well, a big conversation. My wife, and I know. And you know, I love my kids. But what are these learn I never got quite upper with how much of? What we have. I never it for my kids. So I didn't see, you know, you lucky have this car or you ever. What nicer have it? I always told my kids the truth. But I always told the process to get some stuff that have that's what I share with them. I share with them. I how hard at work to get this stuff. And it's up to them if they want to work that art to get themselves. It may not be interesting or not. But I never made him feel guilty about having it is I know they never asked for it. And I was really showed my kids as often as heard the process and the real joy of getting a whole lot of success financially is about what you can give back and what you could share with others not about the money getting the money grab. So you could just have more the real joy is sharing it hoping others and paying forward. And that's how they judge one day. But how much they can pay four but not much money. They have in their back. Those my big emphasis, Mike this. They seem to turn out. Right. I saw your son there at the event, let's continue with your story with this. What else that again, I've circled so many times in your book we saw express itself as a kid. Let's talk a little later in your life. You're working at the high and you wanted to find a way to do what else there, do you? Remember the story I'm referencing from the book. I I will couple Madge at high. I was just Trini. Remember coming home one day in one of the one of my roommates got you Russian. That's what I thought west five hundred five hundred dollar raise. I'm in the coffee. Shop is a manager. And a reworking every morning now, if your hotel high on Baltimore on the harbor the first villain harbor, and whoa, talk pursues ninety two percents tax four hundred something room or tell and I realized how to wake up at five o'clock in the morning every morning to be at work by five thirty. And I think of I was thinking about killing myself. What what did I do? We are twenty two years old waking up at five in the morning is hell it's I mean, there's no other way to say it. I mean, I'm early riser. But you don't wanna have to be at work at five AM, especially at six AM. There's a good amount of people online ready for breakfast. And you re as prayer when you get to the hotel crayon near people show up because as much as it was for me. I got waiters busboys all these people. So I we're in this thing about you never ask. Person. Yes question. They are. Now fifty percent answer could be low. You wanna go out to the movies? You wanna go for dinner? You wanna go for Cup of coffee or maybe just meet for quick sandwich. There's oil. Yes. Yes. Braxton's so emphasized that for second. I saw that in the book, I loved it. You want ask? Yes. Questions where you give people to options that are great for you. And they're more likely to go with one of those two options instead of stopping and saying, wait a minute. I should actually say, no. So if I wanna go out with my wife, this Saturday night just to bring it a little bit too personal. 'cause you're gonna go business in a moment. I say if you wanna go out for dinner or do you wanna go out for drinks? And now we're talking about which one she prefers opposed to do you want to stay home in get comfortable instead of moving our asses outta there is just. Just want to do. No one wants to be told Lucy. Give me. Okay. So let's talk about how that express itself at the Hyatt with this. What else that mentality of yours? This works when everything I mean, any time you don't want somebody what to do. But at the high would I realize that I'm walking around bussing tables was one of my busboys doesn't show up and what is the bus by Ukraine tables, serve coffee. You're and I'm realizing I got another hand of elible now in high only going to get promoted by getting the average checkup, and I tried serving wine for lunch and dinner, but nobody's drinking wine in the coffee shop. So that was a boss, and I'm trying to think every which way to upsell to get those average checks up. He show that promote worthy of promotion and insurance. I realize that the one hand I have offi only asking would you like more offi? That's yes. Or no question. And I notice every day on the machine right back back a fresh squeezed orange juice from Shane now. I never even knew what that was always ranked Tropicana was delicacy for me. I we saw as every morning I had grown. Michelle was looking at raps fresh is delicious a beautiful picture of orange juice Rusk we's when I walk up each day with coffee, orange juice coffee aren't Hughes instead of yes. No, I'm asking you want most people said twelve and my check average you within sixty days ago promoted to rooftop restaurant were all the beautiful people were way to see his it just came from making. Sure that I ask the yes. Yes or yes question now. Yes, or no question. And that's the what else, you know. I'm not gonna sit there and do a year and a coffee shop waking up at six in the morning on the other hand. I'm not a quitter. I'm not going to figure out a way to get myself promoting elevated, and that's how I did it. But I think the yes or no question for people out there thinking about how you frame your words is so important, even when I meet somebody tell me something good. You know, I see tell me something good in our customer goes. Tell me something good something. That's great. That's going on that people light up about something. Good happening with them. Not. So we start the conversation sales cough. Speaking of sales. I'm gonna do a quick message for my first sponsor, and then continue on with the story, by the way. I really love. How you keep thinking about business? Always in your head to keep you keep thinking about business things that I love about the people over topped. How these guys they have top developers? Just like you keep thinking about business they keep thinking on wide problems. How do I develop better code? How do I actually help my clients do a better job, and they can't help it? I moved here to San Francisco, and it wasn't until I lived here surrounded by people who are engineers, Google Facebook. Apple that I started realized they are constantly thinking this stuff. 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Sounds like some that'd be did. So far to sponsor for the rate of them have to go. Check out at the active campaign is a marketer. I think you're gonna love them. You got into. Sports specifically, or you your business kind of took off from what I see in your book because of seven eleven they hard you to do. You're starting your own company. You're getting going and they hired you at seven eleven to do what? Well, actually, what it was was. It was a seven eleven promotion seven up not seven eleven seven the soda company. And we were sitting there were trying to rack that was how I got my first car, but it was also the beginning of really thinking about making flecked imprinting corporate premium knows a deal odor, seven up that distribute also Dr Pepper, and what we did is. We got the, you know, if you bought more product than the previous six months in that one month, you able to get one of these seven footers, and we went to seven footer Kareem Abdul-Jabbar Larry for all the big men in bash me their autograph or you get north jersey got it. And so what you would they hired. You said, hey, look, we need more stores to start bringing in the seven up and buy it from us and sell it to their clients and. I know what if we offer them a collectible as a prize, they're going to be more likely to sell it. Which is kind of like what happened with you? As a kid selling newspapers you wanted that chocolate prize? Right. What before we continue with the story Brennan why why wouldn't they say, hey, what business owners to pay us in cash? I don't need a pride. Like a like a kid. Why is it prizes? Still work for motivating people in especially when they're thinking professionally will promotions for people not for profit. And as where mistake that a lot of companies make is they come up for pricing promotions. But they're really not great. And then at work all that. Well, and I think they have to have value valued where I defy why? You're my world is what I do for you. You can't do yourself. And at that time. Those jerseys autograph were really hard to get quick will really haven't been is. What is today, and it was a rare idea just to get the jersey it self really difficult. We had to get the custom made everything else. So when you offer somebody something that really is hard to get the. Themselves and back when I was a kid, by the way winning boxer Cambridge. I have no idea to get Oxy candy bars that was like unbelievable than it actually be able to win this and the same thing I felt like with seven footers we went and got Scottie Pippen, we have four really great MBA players. And we offer these autographed jerseys which new or rare hard to get and really incented people to go make the extra by 'cause the goal was they go to your they go to the customer. They look your sales over the last six months if you made a sales order for the next two months there were bigger than any two months in the previous six you able to get this jersey and a work like a charm went through the roof. And then we then the next month. We did a special hockey puck by the ten greatest goal scores and said we all have the same goal in common. And it was like if you ordered x amount of this new Proctor had the you'll get you'll get the puck the school that was the goal and kinda will plant worse. I like the play on words even the contest that I started off talking about was called seven footers for seven up. You'll get a collectible from a seven foot basketball player if you help promote seven I kind of skipped over how you started in business. Why you get started as a as an entrepreneur what led to that? I out of desperateness has a kid just always trying to forget schemes in different ways to make money off kid in the neighborhood. Just because you know, wasn't common your work, even as a teenager lead on his young as I did so part of which just desperate his food clothing. But I think that you had a job why were you desperate for more money? I mean, what's in your head and went to see the lighter early age. What you see that? Right. Just a lose that. So you still had your job? And you started your business on the side. But for me for me when I got out of school school is not easy. My mom is mama's like, let's not starting your own business. You not ready? You're gonna go or how money gets made up is get run people that know what they're doing go. Make the mistake of doing something to quick until your experience and understand is not just about the idea. You have you need to have the business principles hiring firing rant had to get space all marketing all the little things of doing business. Besides come up with a good idea next. And the smartest thing I did was wait seven years. I started smiling. This you learned you start your own business. Because that's who you were the first big thing that took off for you is that seven up promotion at that point change your company. It looks like the company. Name was Steiner associates. Why did you change it from Steiner's societas, starring searches was more of a PR name? I'd start off as a PR company helping to consulting for restaurants sports. Brought scene was high time is hoping sports Barnes open up. That was the help create back in the mid eighties. And you know, just didn't have a good ring to it. Steiner sports, sinus sports was the original. And then we added marketing to just better rain at a crisp. And remember back in the mid nineties. It really was not the may sports companies out. There were still very very new. I can't tell me but walked up to me what what's the sports company as I work. It was going to like how do they even work people, hire athletes people by autographed stuff? What is tyrod sports who have? Balance explained that they're Steiner sports. Was you actually have a sports company? It's not a sports company that I don't know that owns small baseball fields are any number of things or make sports equipment. It's you do marketing and a big part of your business. You know, what let me ask you this question. It's kind of a tangent. But I gotta ask you one fifteen of the book is chapter nine turning memories into money. It starts off by saying adopted from the business playbook page thirty three would we looking at here with this book where a section is adopted from another book because I got road create a job coming out of college was business play, but can really book geared towards kids in college or right coming out of college trying to go the brand. And it was a major part of the brand built was what you just talked about which we can raise that matter. It really responsible for my fortune that I've made it Steiner, and I told him in the business playbook, and it's always fair to mention that it came right in that book because I generally my books, repeat whatever it in another book, but this was worthy of repeating because it was the game changer was the moment the circle by raker job on that. You know, what I read these books so fast because I know if I'm going to meet the author, I can't let my mind wander. Can't let myself like lose focus focus read every single word in really helps that I get to talk to you right afterwards. And so what you're saying is like this moment in your book is so important that you wanted to recap it and this goes back to Walter Payton what happened with Walter Payton verse what happened the moment. Just just quickly go through that. Because at the end of the real learning this ability. It was funny to two thousand blogs written three books a man for literate. I struggled reading right. I mean, really. And with funny is used to read my kids stories at night when I didn't like reading I've never been a big reader and sometime I you know, I'd make up stores. I never I opened up a buck. And I'd just make up around story. My kids go crazy. So I go when I'm telling the story about my favorite moments sports, which was the ninety four Cup with Rangers won the Cup was a captain in my look over my son is dead asleep for him start the story. This is wrong. I'm about to tell you by most important sports moment. And now is the beginning of Steiner are never the moment campaign, which was needs are confused sit on his bed. And so myself that story by why Mark Mayfield macabre such important moments that awaited fifty four years ranger fans were waiting how there's such a big moment. And I realize it, wait a minute. Everybody has one of those moments human were caught in Fisk when he hit that home run or Bob, you are you're saying the moment in in sports that was dramatic for the player was also super meaningful for the viewer. And what you're saying was your realization was people wanna hold onto it somehow have a tangible experience, not just a memory. And when I think is that most people's lives moments that matter what. We remember remember these slack moments that matter and memory and holding on and you wanna you don't wanna let him go. So I would say, wait a minute. I used to collect all these magazines members. No internet, that's stuck going through the magazines and Joe name holding up the number one Ali over list in all these great moments. We remember where you were and has all these photos trying to find the tiger. I haven't he's athletes sign the photo. Right Eluned scripture. What happened in the phone? That's were our we change the collectible business is we came up with moments that matter and the in those photos, we found products that the player of us we found the actual bathroom using we replicate it we found the hockey stick that Wayne Gretzky used on his first goal ever has Dr. And we replicated that that stick. And that's what we were selling. That's what kicked off signer collectibles. We found was that mattered and that were affordable. And we produced the finder. Sandy, right. You have I doing promotion for for? Hospitality companies like restaurants, you then discovered through the seven up that a sports connection made more sense than just being in the in the PR marketing space, then you started selling the products, and this I never thought signer was going to be a product of me for fans I was to be play. But it started becoming that after seven up seven was a busy day play. We work with a company that did promotions. Please them what got you into actually selling the products to individuals to people that I was telling my kids before that you weren't even selling items. I was just so like if you were a sales person I'd say assigned ball you go to a meeting so at bitch. He's sandy Koufax ball Whitey four-ball. And I was cute or with senior autographed bat look for it in all with the two thousand eighteen now worked I never thought the product was going to be a brand play. I thought it was just going to help you do more business as. Salesperson you business? Another business. Got it. Story at night. And all of a sudden, wait a minute. I think fans really want something more just autographed item. They want an autograph moment at matter. How did you get customers in the beginning? What's how'd you get customers in the beginning not easily, but I came up with a couple of different campaigns. Remember the moment capable jingle. We got into some catalogs one of biggest things breaks. I gone a lot of money as I mentioned earlier. But I haven't American Express car which has figured out how to get one and get these statements and in have different offers statement on my wait a minute. I bet you people wanna get a ball. If I put that in the statement of their study this rewards program. And they in their words for you able to catch up for signed ball. God. No one's ever gonna catch up. Wait for Sibol when they say, they're gonna cares points for all because they can't get this ball. They don't get this ball. And I'd get him this ball. And then we started going crazy with Merican express and all these other different catalog programs. They put autograph items in there. That's kind of how we got our initial run of customers. Walter Payton since I brought him up. He was running back for Chicago Bears. He was dying when you talk to him, and you came up with an agreement to do what with him. Well, we did is we did basically the last year of his life with us collection with him nights spent three weekends wall to doing some trade shows with for a couple of former sue companies he was amazing to work with. And I always say we sign autographs he number like signing for money. It always signed for fans, but didn't wanna get paid. But when he realized he was dying here. He thought it'd be a good legacy that we back product line Nieves. Some money for his family, and we signed twenty thousand nine that was really a. Abused? Great for me to got collection that collection together. I didn't realize how poppy was until unfortunately passed and certainly did put us on the map and a lot of ways. Sometime weren't. You aren't able to sell it until after he died, then it seems like the next big break was the next big opportunity was the Yankees versus Mets. Right. This was what two thousand or will. I never signed a lot of players to do their collectible lines of product one of these. We did at Stein at differentiated. We'd find a play report a product line together for him starting high school minor leagues all the different moments that happened in the place career. So when somebody was finanical about a player we able to put all Klein together. My first big big deal was Messier. But my first gigantic deal. It will Derek cheater and sure enough two thousand we lucky enough to get a World Series matched up with match. Yankees won the MVP and was a five million our Jewett jeeter, which you may in five million for what three years, and there was a lot of money back in two thousand ninety nine years of what readers signing autographs doing appearances doing clinic, which was a lot of money back. Then I paid a million seven per year based on a lot of autographs clinics to a couple of parents is and say was friend of mine, and you. Naarden deal as he had to say, he was a friend of yours. Not quite but we always we had our little innuendos stuff. How could it when people want Brandon signer we had the little keyword search to know if the guy was really my friend or not at the beginning where you mean him? Yeah. But more poorly we with him. We had the Yankee fan are such a run. I mean, it was crazy when when you're selling clinics. You're also getting paid for appearances. And you're selling the bats, the balls and everything else that he signed and clinics were important because our business when I was selling was going corporation, should look you can't get a client to meet with you go permanent event together with Gobert kit because most of the high level people posted the high level decision makers really hard to get interest with meetings with us where we invite them to go to clinic with our cheater they'll be on the sidelines. When you're talking while the kid is playing baseball there jeaner, you're definitely we started doing that. With me a ham. We started doing that wrong transit players. And that's what we really built up a great company corporate base. This really wealthy decide a great idea. Right. So how are they going to say no to bring their kid to once in a lifetime activity and while the kids are playing field. Great feeling good about the person who just bought this for them. Okay. So they're not. My claim to fame at the end of the day. If you're trying to get a meeting, you can't I'm guy you wanna call. I will get you that meeting ninety nine percent of the time because figure out a way to do something that has valued at the person you're trying to get the meeting with instead of trying to sell them. Craig what what's an example of something that you've done like that. What's non sports related? I feel exports doctor's office. I've been three weeks deliver kids delivered like sixty three kids in the last three weeks. I'm all three weeks kid kids on what to do and his birthday coming a loved hockey, if he can meet more temper or maybe somebody on the said, no, no, no that's stupid as I want. You to do is when a rent that rink because you know, needed look in front of your kids. Look good in front of your kids friends. Yes. Who can rent out, a rain? Martin's going to be the coach of the organizer of the game your kid and his friends are gonna come away hockey and more tenable doors, referees said everything opera do little credit. Now, you look good with your kid and friends and his friends, you can say, you know, you have the best in the world is the best way to turn your interest on it. Having friends come to your entire graded that you are. And I remember getting a letter from that kid about ten years ago. So twenty years ago, I did that and say, you know, my relationship my dad change from that day. I know you had a big part of doing that. I never would have got to know my dad or so I. In the back of she was never all. Then all of a sudden, we started getting hockey started on a hockey game together, and that Martin door appearance, we rented ring, which changed everything. But I could give you two hours of all that and that not come up for breath. You know it. So the big takeaway for me is the two things that I get away from that number one. I get the idea that if you wanna meet someone or give someone something give something to their kids. I even find tons of stuff in the office and the things that my kids can come in. And enjoy are the things that I get the best value in best upside for me number two is like a wife if I could get something that my wife would enjoy like, otherwise, it's just feels like a burden to me. And then the second artery give your wife, though, wife's not big on the way. But if something comes in, it's especially nice for her than bring it in and say this. Yeah. The what is my wife from harder to regain my wife. I if my kids, but now after my kids, we re gifted so anything I have claimed this is a regifter. Not for me when I'm making a statement that you joy this more than me. That's why I'm giving it to a second thing. Is that the bonding power sports? I don't have that. I I have no connection to sports outside of a few Yankee experiences growing up. Can you actually win somebody over if they don't love sports, don't even follow? It the way that you do what's a way to do that for someone who's not into sports or think it's even more important three not in sports in person struggling sometimes they loved one somebody in the family that does sports if you can make that little bit of a bridge. That's even bigger. The Mia Hamm clinic was another one guys have trouble doing stuff with their daughters. And always have a million things they can do their sons. So doing the soccer clinic with Mia was great thing for nine zero daughter who the guy was a father struggling with the do. Do my daughter now taking me a ham. Soccer, quiet. Bingo, got it. Mom and a million ways to do it. I think that I. A big part of most my clients, the best ones I've wanted not sports fans. Okay. There's so much that I wanna cover here with you. I'm gonna talk about my second sponsor didn't want to come back and ask what happened when the Yankees brought you in and said, hey, what are you doing? Who? Are you? What are you? What are you up to with our people number one number two? I feel like you didn't explain how you sold your company in the book, and I'm fascinated by that and why you still come into work persona company. So long ago, I mentioned the dirt thing we gotta bring that up. And then Finally I want to close out with why you have so many frigging or something you had so many basketball's in your house. Why I gotta talk about my second sponsor. It's a company called active campaign. You do Email marketing, but you guys use mail chimp from what I saw Brandon I should have brought up the competitions name. Whatever you use another Email provider. Let me tell you why you might wanna consider why you should consider active campaigns which over most Email providers. What they do granted, they let you put everyone on Email list, Email everybody, the exact same thing thing about active campaign was imagine you send everyone the same Email, and you discover that there's a handful of people who every time you send a link. To your next Facebook live. They click it. Why should you send them? Why should you send them the same thing? You sent everyone else. Meanwhile, they're handful of people who every time you say, I've got a new memorabilia, they click that you wanna tag, those two groups of people. And then if you have something that is just a Facebook live that's urgent or another like Instagram live that you're experimenting with or something else. People back to those original people who keep clicking your Facebook live in say, I'm doing this special thing on Instagram. You should come and see that and the people who are just into the collectibles and everytime Email about that. They click those you wanna treat them differently and say, here's this new thing that I'm offering just for you. Because if you were to go to the Facebook live people just want business advice for you. Try to talk to them about buying baseball's over and over they think you're selling them too hard, and it would feel a little too pushy, but the people who are into collectibles, they want it. They wanna know before anyone else. Anyway, what I'm saying is Brandon? Allows you to bucket people like that. Sorry rovers. Yeah. Super super simple to do. There's lots of software to do it. But it's way too complicated. They make it really easy. And if you are with the different Email provider, Brandon, I know you've got a team. I talked your team this super smart. They do they chat bots before. Most people even knew what they were. And I know that they could move you over. But I also know that they've got so many other things on their plate. Why should I bother? If you go to active campaign dot com slash mixture g you will see that. They will migrate you for free from your current Email provider. They will also let you just try it for free experiment with. It's you at you likes you what you don't like about it. If you decide to sign up. Sorry, we're gonna dry I see that down couple times right down the realm and say, wait, how do I get that extra migration so abroad? I think people take for granted. This is you have my Email address. Doesn't mean give warrants Email me anything you with the rock. Yeah. And sometimes hard you can't survey people because they're not gonna they're not gonna tell you the truth. What you wanna do is look for signals and what they're already doing what they're clicking on what videos on your website. They're watching all the way to the end. What things are they doing on your site beyond that beyond watching video? So if you go to active campaign dot com slash mix. Or did you can try for free? You're kind of a rich you're rich man right now, not kind of your very you don't even need this. But I'll tell you set him on this free. And I know that even people at your position pre sheet getting a free month service, then if us active campaign dot com slash they'll do to free one on one sessions with their experts to make sure that you learn the software go do it. And then come back get more feedback at more directions to the can prove. And as I said, remind Gration active campaign dot com slash Mickey active campaign dot com slash mixer g the Anki call you in a hey Steiner was seen your name all over your interacting with our people. Are you legit you go into their office? And you do the same. What else again, I'm telling circle in this. What else not intentionally until I finished reading the book that look at all the dogeared pages that I said, wait this one else keeps coming up. So what's the what else that you walk in there? Tell tell me about that meeting. If you remember I remember meeting I was yesterday and are trying to get it for about three or four months. And finally, somebody help me get that meeting, which is by the way, Geoghegan meeting thing about re trying to meet with new they may know that, you know, it's not who you know, what, you know. But what you know about who what someone that? I knew that. I knew it note that they help you get the meeting, and I went in there, and I was really nervous because they're gonna take my season tickets way. They been kind of on me because I was definitely in their space work a lot of players around the stadium. And I went I decided to go rhino agenda. I had nothing nothing. I went it was zero with open mind because I I don't wanna go away too. I didn't know what to do. And sure enough. We started talking and hit me. They just opened up fickle. The yes network feed their first network that a baseball team owned their own network. And I'm oh, my Omni com, which is a pretty big advertising agency conglomerate even a small companies big conglomerate, I did have a lot of friends at work his choice said miss it. You know, I know you probably don't think much credibility bombo by Omni becoming Omni all the adages it. Yeah. You can get John Wren on the phone. John ramsey. Oh, still is is plays first base, which I mentioned a baseball fan base. John restarts. Tickets. I don't need you call right now. But we may need to maybe meet them. Because maybe I'm comcan office was marriage is ING Jerry hope our station a little bit more, Greta made the connection, and I've found by keeping myself open minded clear, I found something that they needed back to the bagel back to the woman, I found the value proposition that they needed and then the conversation from probably being a fifteen minute meetings when our fifteen and at one point I said, look, I hope you if not on the money part of it. Your fans are getting fake stuff. I mean, twenty years now people are gonna wanna get game you stuff for or there. Andy betted, I can put a program in place that would solidify do authentication security of fans aren't gonna be cheated. So that's the most important thing. Our fans are the most important thing as a world we work on that. And then we could figure out his business round that we could come up without to off the races took me cheers ideal. And what was what was the eventual deal reinventing deal was creating Hanky Steiner, which again, the balls were. My mother always taught me, you know, if not you then who no one is ever put their name next to the ANC. He's thinking about the five brand. Yeah. Developing customers went to the biggest name the biggest brand. And I demanded that wouldn't be called Yankee collectibles. Either man because Yankee Stein, I wanna eat will billet gonna want everything the Enke's proposing for themselves. I want enough for my brand. And they gave it to me return. Very fortunate grateful to them for doing that. And it was on you to take their collectibles, and sell it and organize it and do it in a way that was classy authentic and maitre was communicated in a way that is the Anki brand is the end all brand the best brand all sports, and they wanna make sure treaty were that kind of integrity. And I made sure kind of things will you will you creating and selling for them on your when I do Yankee Steiner search on Google, basically end up back to Steiner sports dot com. That's good. Yeah. It seems like what I know started laughing at me. And then I say, well, I want to dig a base from the game. I want to get and delivered the someone in the seats. I want the Phoenix man to go and walk into the stadium and give it to somebody. That's never going to do that we want. We get nine besa game. We do that all the time. Now, what you wanted from them was. They give you the collectibles. You find a way to sell it on there with them all the game. Use the phone in the bullpen, which I've Mariana autograph. You saw that. The people have the form that Mariana gets in the bullpen to the outfield panels clinics on the fields were we had jeeter doing of Geeta to clinic on the field at Yankee Stadium. How great is that? And you can't do that. Unless you've got a partnership with them becomes more and more difficult without them. So that's the partnership that you had Yankee Stadium. I remember going there as a kid. I remember going there even as an adult they decided they were going to basically take that place apart. At what point did you come in and say, I I wanna partner up with you. I've got an idea for this crazy is if the two years two hundred page document is remember we did this deal with the ankles PA, and he'll be a lot of things involved with doing this deal in the last day before I signed that. I said Tim, by the way, you're back to the what else. If you ever should demolish the stadium put a new one because I'm not saying your gun. I have no idea. I definitely have to be a part of that. We have to put that in the deal and the sea rose said to me, Brandon. To put this deal. We can't do anything else with this deal. But you on my word that we're gonna do everything we can if we should ever break the stadium down with do something with you where I'll love about the ankles. Yeah. With that. And I asked him for store in if a new stadium when my own store in there. I don't want to cloud rate we vendors there. I wanted to my own and sure enough when they had the blueprint for the new stadium. He called me up through his office ranted or show, you two things show me where my store was. What's this? Is this news eating what you know. What this is. What is this is his we store is going to be? He was what do you think said? Well, it a small. It'd be nice was bigger. He took out the pencil race. It made a little bigger nine store the stadium juts out into the concourse. And then he said, I remember you told me that you wanted to break down those stating we respect that we're going to partner up with you. But we do have to buy from the state's going to be a little complicated. But and they and they lived up every bit of there were stay knew that the old stadium was the greatest may be stadium. Roll time. It needs to be broken down with respecting caring love, not just the money grab. And that's exactly what I did in the Enke's rose supported that partnership by doing all the neighbor me to do that. I see the Yankee Steiner collectibles. That's what it says on the sign in the store in Yankee Stadium. Your name right up there with the Anki inside relate products in the store up to that point have storage and store people on it was just a couple of items in the stadium. Now got my own store, which is pretty cool. And so when they broke down the stadium, you got everything I saw it. I love it in the book even say, by the way, we still have stuff purchase go, and I looked up. I'm sitting there everything that you say on stage or something in me that I have to go and see for myself. You say that the big campaign worked for you. As you gotta have balls. I went back, and I found old arm old spoleto's of the billboard. Because how people not gonna take pictures of a billboard? That says you gotta have balls. And then it's like gotta have balls. Forget what it was. Tonight, put your balls like those collectibles. I that brings me then to the dirt. So I love that in your book. You don't say, hey, I had this opinion. You said I was attending. National sports collector convention one year, I met a guy who is selling dirt. From the first Marlins game at Joe Robbie Stadium. Little bottles of dirt labeled appropriately for nine ninety nine each nine dollars ninety nine pennies, which is not the place where you live up go up market. So that gave you the thought talk about like how you took that idea and evolved it in grew it and grew up beyond this little nine ninety nine Chachi. First thing I tell people that if you're going to be in products and services business, you'd better not to quote, upset near Destin anybody that knew when I would go to a flea market or to a trade show. I will go to people that so much crap that I would buy you have to be curious you have to walk mall. You have to walk stores, I'm constantly walking mall. Looking for the next idea because it's not. That idea, but it's an idea that you may see transform. So when when I came home with this stuff from that, this this show, and was magazines all kinds of crap I said to myself brand you idiot, and I do have these conversations myself, my you are more. You bought dirt is only wrong with you. And as like you. That's maybe maybe something there and basically happened soon after the Konami went so bad. I started remember these product ideas coasters hot crystals clocks, we spray your he's at he's on a photo in his spray the dirt on their photos. We put a capsule dirt was something. I could good luck charm about that dirt. And started started with you saying look at coming from wrong, you notice, and I love this video that I saw somewhere on YouTube. When I was researching you where at the end of a game or even during the player would go down grab some Dir put it in their pocket. There's something about grabbing the dirt from the game. Instead said players are into this. This is an interesting product. A look at this. I actually see a little collectible the looks like anyway, I see it online in lots of different ways. So the first thing you sold was what for so you made a deal you said I wanna buy the dirt from the stadiums. Now, you've got this commitment to buy the dirt the north what you're zero three. It'd be kidding me. I got Ennals Dern authenticated, which we made. Sure Israel from that actress stadium within by. I think I decide don't fully remember from the book. But I think it was something like you have someone watch to make sure the dirt was actually coming in directly from the stadium properly. Okay. Until you saw that you had it. The first thing that you sold dirt. In was what was it these little bottles? It looked like spice bottles was his little capsules residual capsules that we attach onto the photos. We pitchers mound. Dirt we attach it to say CC Athey photo in that the place photos game user, and then the next thing we started doing was crystals coasters. I love I remember going to vodka company energy in companies saying could these coasters we logo on it from Yankee Stadium? You have dirty MARTINI until you're selling to businesses to and that's another part of your business. Interesting to me, you're not just selling to the individual guy who leads baseball. Sorry, three the premium businesses cool because there's a limit to what we can do. So when people by our premiums there. A little bit more expensive. But the unique the different than just getting pan or ruler or t shirt. Okay. And so you then moved onto dirt with businesses, and then talk a little bit about how you kept up selling in grow, not selling moving avenues, bats criminal. But all these different pans crystals clocks, hundreds of things you going starter sports icon of their products. But I was writing we'll know Brian Cashman, the thank of everything down the greatest champion the planet. A welcome. And I was just want to thank him, and I had my graphic design into a map of all the ballpark's. Figuring to be nice to hang in his office. Why not? And then I we have every state but will capsule dirt on there. And that's what we came up with the ballpark dirt's. And I realize that Escasany the caller was unique in every stadium. Not all dirt is creepy. And I got kind of crazy about the dirt. She had this beautiful ballpark piece. And he a thirty two different dials of will capsules of dirt. And I wrote on Bryant expert thing you do you have a little dirt on every team in your office. Cute little catch. You will say meanwhile, we started selling those five hundred. Piece while I crazy. So we figured out third proc Ressam for twenty nine thirty nine bucks. Which wasn't exactly what I really wanted to do. But how me being bad and was creative people kinda liked it. We we don't holes in bass put gamy irt for critical runs. So guy would hit a big home around. We carve the dirt into that. Now's another big upset. We get a premium on that. The ballpark maps was the defendant the numbers up red hot. It's the the fascinating part of your talk. At Joe's event was how you kept thinking we start off with one thing. And then we just keep evolving involving at the cases that the balls were in you said people are buying these expensive balls at putting it in these nine dollar plastic containers, how do we make it? So that we can charge more earn more money and also making more meaningful, and it's constant little things like shifting the quality of what's in it. The picture that's in the dirt on the bottom. Every little bit adds allows you to charge more are two things that I want to close out with. I think I covered everything I'm the commedia is your friend. If you just look at the truth of the situation, you're I idea is not your best idea. So don't let it says be deterrent more success and get to the truth of what you think what you felt what the customers they game. And you'd be good things happen. Looking all these I did a search say do a search on my side. You'll see all the different ways we sell their. I see it on your site. I'm Mecom why? When and why did you sell to to omnicompetent? Well, this is one of the few decisions. I made my wife didn't agree with me on were roast on take off a new that I was gonna eat a partner were radio to build this thing. Member thing I was building. No one can understand other station. And I knew that I was gonna eat dusters Bank or partner, and I thought was such a not traditional partner, the least likely partner, you'd never wanna think. Of course, they had hundreds of companies, not no real sports companies. And I thought it gave me access to companies that would never able to walk into because of these high profile NPR, a marketing agencies, and I thought that had the deep pockets helped me build and continue to be the best in category. They were big fans of investing category and constantly won the competition with the next. Best thing. I love that frothy. And I actually took less money affront to go with them than I had other offers from other companies, and it just came down in our forty and I felt like I was okay for the grind. But I don't wanna grind on the money anymore. Like, I I wanted to enjoy the second part of my children's lives having some well, not having the pressure about the Bank account getting loans getting money to supplement my inventory. And I thought this was a really high quality company, which it is that commit help me you things that never dreamt of doing which strip and some Brandon when you sold I'm guessing you get a percentage of profits or something because you're working like a madman. You not just at that event. The next morning seven AM Europe working said any working out said anyone wants to come out with me come do still selling within your book. You're still talking. What what you deal that allows you to keep doing this? It's you know, I I never really got to caught up in the money. And and that far as a reason why should dictate who you are. What you do? You are you. You are. And what you do. I like working, you know, I liked the grind I like making money. I mean, you get a percentage of profits or something what you deal with them. You still get a percentage of the profits. They give you profit sharing the stock options. There's a lot of different options away to to make it. I've made a lot of money. So the money is as as I get paid well, and I'm still creating and doing things, but I I managed my day very carefully time management's critical thing, and I'm doing a lot of things which is always the way I like operate. But I always make sure that the most important things must report saying, so my health is critical and always focus take your my family travel. My wife that never gets in the way. And then when I'm here, I try to kill him trying to everything I can't try to you know, I'm not gonna come in. And put my feet up this go home and go to the beach retire. I wanna kill it. I wanna I will still kill the competition or I can feel like little things, dude. I'm spending so much time like in your world one last story. But folks every time there's someone who I talked to who does ecommerce. I know the people are starting for the work for their company. Name and coupon codes, you say people are searching for it. Let's put it right at the top of our site. So that now when they searched Google's going to send them back to our site for our coupon codes enlightened by more stuff like stuff like that those little details. Someone doesn't care you notice until you, and I appreciate you notice in that. But I'd say the secrets my sauce was I'm a road. So we smart not that smart premise road. So we smart, but I know what I know, but to really be active. This was my sweet spot e commerce social media. So I hang out with a lot of seventeen eighteen ninety two roles are brought them into my fold. I meant to them and mentor me back we're up back and forth mentoring. And so this is they know about all these new apps, and they're so much once this than I am their Mina circle. Now, they're in my office every day. I'm hanging out with them play ball with them taking them the games. So I provide value for them. And I'm keeping close to sharp until. I thought it was gonna blow their minds. You got me on a call with them to talk about chat bots. I said I'm gonna blow their minds I'm going to show them that I know that they're on shop if I store, and then I'm gonna show them that there's one little chap that they could add that retarget s- people who didn't complete their now they were on it already had on the site. They knew the numbers are going to close out with one last. When you're good storyteller. Brandon. You're like a musician when people keep saying play this one song, I've got to just have on the record from my audience for me to have this recording. Forever of you looking at your house. You have a basketball court your house, you have an indoor full court after for who junkie. I love when you looked in. You saw how many basketballs you had? Well, in my office is a sinuses. Everyone has a story in which is story in a suit comes to my office. I asked him what story and a fortunately most people have a story. But it just ain't true. So one day, I'm working out. My basketball trainer. I take reform shots to try work. Once a week to work in the vascular trains to wanna play my friends might one-step ad. I can't shots. But I'm looking at it. And I've got a hundred basketballs, and I'm trying to figure out like why the hell do I have a hundred basketball's not five or six ball's shooting machine? Maybe balls on a hundred and I realize when I was a kid growing up. We talked about the stroll in the conversation or I was in. We never had a ball with a big deal. We wanna play we can never find a ball. And once in a while not even a ball that you can actually play without a bubble in it this that, and it was really it was really trouble something, you know, the fact that I wanted to play basketball play with and I look back, and I think why. Would have a hundred balls because in my delusion remind. I think I'm not gonna have a ball. I need to make sure have a backup for the backup for the backup. I never want to wake up and wanna play not have a good ball play with. And he's thinking about that. That's something happens fifty years ago, and I'm still carrying that for with an I ask people when I go and speak sometimes at a conference. What's the store you're carrying with such a trivial thing? Like the basketball saying, I'm trying with me magical, the other stuff carry with me from my childhood that now playing forward in my adulthood, and I asked people at the conference like, what's what are you carrying for your child that may be doesn't really make a lot of sense because having hundred basketball make a lot of sense is probably not hurting anybody's gonna get rid of the balls tomorrow. Although maybe I'm gonna donate a bunch from which I discussed my wife over the weekend. But at the end, what do you carry for from your childhood? Maybe doesn't make sense that may be one without story to rest, you can get more accurate story. When someone ask you what your story is. I love it. I had no idea. Also what you're going through. When you said, it wasn't until I read the book that I found out about your dad about how you knew about the situation growing up. I love biographies. This one is really good. Because you're good storyteller. With a point every story is interesting. It's fascinating from an entrepreneur like hustler point of view. It gets me motivated and in the clear takeaway clear point that. I just don't expect a lot of times books anymore. All right. The book is you gotta have balls. His his latest book is called living on purpose. It's not even in Waikiki said, why do I not know it? It's not even a Wikipedia. Maybe somebody can actually listen to this interview and go to Wikipedia because if I do it apparently Wikipedia one allow me to, but if you do it you can what is living on purpose wise it when I even go to Amazon, I can't find it brand. Pretty well. So we ran out of books, but it is. That doesn't happen. Apparently when you run out of both. Book Ozzy like read this book, it's gonna hit you hard. So you may want to be sitting when you read it because it's a very transparent honest book this one about I see now stories about faith fortune, and fitness that will lead you to extrordinary life. What we with with? About where you get a little success. Maybe Donald further what you thought or parent for some success. Don't do when you become successful. And these are some of the honest trousers relations mistakes a lot of people make this woman. I was just up she's up. Obviously a new crockery saw me. And she says I sleep on my phone on my bed. I worked twenty four seven as let me ask you this pride kicks in. We're gonna shake going to be in your a messed up at max Bassetti, and you guys even hit she's gonna grind, I gotta do everything. I can't it said I appreciate that to some degree. But firstly osmond's not thinking on that sexy. When you got your wife, and you had before you go to bed it, this is not a sex this phone, by the way. And Secondly, how do that route and become more busier when you're maxed out ready? Those are some of talked about some good solutions in this third book that really gives some insight about how you prepare for success and deal a success and keep going respectable aspic. We're why you keep going? I need become extraordinarily dual this. I don. So I don't have to do anymore. I'm extraordinarily someday will promote how what do what I'm doing. Why would I wanna stop? Why does Tom Brady wanna fout guys kill themselves to being the kind of shape and be able to do what he does. He does not doing that. So when they can stop for long as they can because he's great avenue loves it. And then answer the question that I walked into his interview with two which is like why is he willing to put up with my BS? I asked you on a Friday. I said we have an empty spot or will move somebody for you. Why is he willing to do this? Glad that you are willing to do this to come in here and tell you story or choice here kind of make critters maybe people watch Chris is nothing wrong with respect it. I mean, a live choice. This is a life loving than I have here. It's a life. Love affair that. I have what idea in the kind of stuff that Mabel to do. And there's no shock in my office. Ready to go up tonight at eleven I'll be ready to go. Then. Not so am, but. All right, Brennan Steiner. He is a founder chairman of Steiner sports marketing, the book that I just used to I devoured it's called. You gotta have balls. You got not you have to have Alta. Gotta have balls refers to advertising campaign that just kicked for him. Did really well in his latest book living on purpose? I wanna thank him for doing this interview. And I want to thank my sponsors made. This interview happened the first will host your website. No, wait, what am I talking about? I will help you hire. Phenomenal developers called top tau and the second will help you. Do your Email marketing right active campaign. Checking out atop towel dot com slash MSCI or active campaign dot com slash mixture and grateful Dayuan here. Brennan, thank you. Great avenue active action campaign, hand dot com slash mixer. Gee, I'm telling you give you so much more with that. Free. They will give you know, what you know, what I like the unit gauche eating if you hook. If you want hook you up with someone over there they'd love and then it's one month for your I tried out for free. And then they'll give you a second month free. Once you get started. Ultimately, though, it's going to be it's either gonna make you a bunch of money, or you're not gonna love it in instantly. You're gonna know it when you see the tagging when you see the way it makes it easy to customize your audience. You're gonna love him who are Brennan. Thank you so much for doing this looking for union person again by bike by one.

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"In a pacifier and he ask hosie which one do you want? He says just cried as baby. Bus which start laughing. Do that that's amazing. Imagine those are two big boys right there I mean did it today? I mean it it's a clubhouse. You guys get live together. It's a long time to those dudes ever square off or come close to it. Those are two big big dudes. You know what the truth is we never would there was one potential fight and believe it or not. It was the little guy versus the biggest guy was Tony Phillips. Versus Jose Canseco and Tony Phillips though those small was feisty. And you know hosie it hit hit a bomb hit a long bomb. And was swore that he didn't get it all. And that started that started Tony Phillips off and and before I knew it Tony had him jacked up in his locker. So we we had to get Tony off of them. And so that's amazing story like we what's he must I weighed him by sixty seventy easy tony fills probably soaking wet was one hundred and seventy pounds at best. Posey's weighing in at two thirty and you know how massive he was but Tony Adams jacked up in the locker we had to get him off of them. That's incredible. Tony Phillips saying Stew for those who don't remember man my man do he ran hot he ran hot lights. I mean what? What was he? Like? Really Versatile player Bama man was wondering on different kind of fuel. Wasn't he? Man He. We were facing a we were facing California's angels and I think it was lengthened. was pitching that pitching against him and. and. Nineteen. was throwing everybody else fastball. And Tony Phillips come up and all of a sudden he might see one fastball and then a bunch of break balls and he'd strapped him out. Says third at Bat he's taken now he's taken. He's taking the Sombrero he's back and he's sitting on he sitting on the bench and walking back and and and he stands up on the top step he says. Dummy, a gut fastball you sissy stormy fastball ball you thought everybody else asphalt. Number the puck throw me a fastball. He's he was you know what? Though? Those type of players that type of feistiness and tenacity if you are championship team. Those guys are needed They take everybody else's level up a notch only Tony great payment. You had so many on that team to and he you know, sadly, he was one of the three guys on that team stew that passed away in their fifties. You mentioned Dave Henderson whereabout hand you Hindu is another huge huge personality I wonder if that personality man, his charisma's exuberance is. Did kind of overshadow how good of a player he really was? Did he get credit of a player? He was do I. Really don't I don't think he got as much credited at all. I mean we know about Rox in the playoffs and coming up with the big hits and big home runs. and. The playoffs. But Hindu was was the general out there he played Centerfield for us. he was accurate with his throws he always through to the right basis. I'm he kept both Ricky and and Jose on their toes and in line as as the general out there. I'm in the Clubhouse, he always knew what to say and win to say it and it was almost on time the right thing to say. And then the second part of it was he was funny. I mean, he was great great character always keeping you laugh and. He was. Just a great teammate, a great, a great human being STU. The other guy passed away unfortunately in his fifties was Bob. Welch and Bobby Welsh when twenty seven games man he he was a horse what what what was it like knowing? He would take the ball every day and what made him so popular in that clubhouse. You know my time. Well, she goes back to the dodgers ace. And from that day that I met him in seventy eight until. The time that. He passed away. Would made bobby unique and specialist bobby bobby never changed. He was always just a great guy. I'll tell you how great a Guy Bobby was. Bobby Welsh and this is a story but that I heard so I'm giving it to you third hand. But I I'm giving it to you from Kurt Young. one of my teammates and Bobby Welsh incurred young Arizona one day and they went out for a bike ride. Bobby had just bought a brand new. Bicycle a dirt bike. but it was a really really nice bicycle. He incurred were riding. They were in the second mile of the ride as put it. Bobby saw homeless guy standing on the side of the road. in Bobby walked up to the guy and he asked me said old timer or how you going to get around. And the guy says I don't know and Kurt told me at that moment bobby gave him that bike that he only had for about a week. Right up the person that's the personality of Bobby Bobby was was a team player. He was one of the best teammates I've ever had both dodgers and the as. And just a a great human being. What an amazing conversation, my sincerest and deepest thanks and gratitude. Dave Stewart for keeping our conversation is calendar. After the terrible news, he received about the passing of his mother only twenty four hours earlier once again, my thoughts and condolences are with him and his family I appreciate him so much and I'm so glad that he was able to share some. Thoughts on his mom right off the very top I want to thank you all for listening quick podcast programming. Note I will be back in two weeks on August nineteenth episode one, thousand, nine, one more summer Rhody to whisk go and then we're gonNA jam right through Thanksgiving so I will catch you in a little bit until then here or your voicemails. Win, in eighty, nine, of course, the world shook. Now you've got your bay area series, the as and the giants, and in somebody grew up in the bay area I can only imagine what that meant to you. But when the world shook, the entire world gotta look at what all of us who grew up in California fear the most the big one, and now is a big. quake. What did you think when you felt the earth start shaking? What do you remember about that day? You know what I remember. We were in the clubhouse me Parker Hindu or in the clubhouse at the time and new, and we always do pre-game telling jokes and goofing off and you know getting loose as best we can before the game obviously I wasn't pitching that that game I pitched a two days before. So we're getting ready for the game and then Harvey The clubhouse manager comes and he says, we need to get you guys Outta clubhouse is there's something that's going on on the Feeley. So don't go in the parking lot and make sure that when you when you would you leave the clubhouse that you go on to fill. And then we got out on the field. And you could hear the fear. In the fans and you could see the lights down at the ballpark. Swaying heavily. And There were already a parade of police officers, Highway Patrolman, and firemen on the field escorting fans out of the seats. And into the parking lot and our families onto the field. And You know you could hear on the walkie talkies at the bay bridge had collapsed. And that the Marina district caught on fire. And Then they were rushing us to our cars and we had to figure out how we were going to get back to the stadium. And The San Mateo Bridge had was not serviceable and so we had to go across the Dumbarton. And obviously, the the freeways were packed full of people. For six hours took us to get to the other side of bay. And I mean that's what I remember most is the the Sound of fear and disbelief. it's just unbelievable. You know back in back in those times we didn't have. The Best of cellular service at that time and all of the phone lines were down. I didn't know where my family members were because none of them were escorted on the field. And so You know it was it was just chaos. And, scary really really scary. So I wanna ask you you tell me because you know him better than I do but I'm I'm curious about this person I'm not sure the sport or maybe any sport has ever seen a player or a talent or a presence or a gentlemen quite like Sandy Koufax there's just this this aura in this mystique and he was just just sandy right to sandy like what do you make of? Sandy as a pitcher and as a man? All I can tell you this about sandy the men instead of the pitcher both. You know in Nineteen, seventy, six when I was. Just learning pitch, I was a converted player from catchy to. My first year pitching was seventy five and then in seventy six. I was invited instructional. League for the second time. I didn't have any. Success. Wasn't getting anybody out and my record for the two years was I didn't have a win. And so on seventy six Sandy was assigned to me. And he brought me down in the bullpen and broke my mechanics down and we we we just. Redid everything. We did a remake and people ask me where did the stair come from or lowering of the CAP? That's one of the things that sound. He told me they want you to get on the mound. And you stand up there. and. He says lower your cap to the point that you don't see anything but the shoulders of the catcher. And Dell. And that's what I ended up doing and then. I ended up throwing strikes. and that season the seventy seven season. AM. I ended up winning eighteen games and losing four. And you know Sandy was. He was the key to that He was the guy. And then in nineteen eighty two, I was struggling at the major league level. And not getting people out in that first half of the season. And Sandy it asked me if I threw a two seamer which I didn't. And he says, look, this is I'm gonNA show you how to throw it to Samer. Anybody's seen sandy or shaking hands with sandy knows that his hands and his fingers. Though Sandy is not a big man. He may be six one at best. But Sandy's got huge hands. So when he shakes your hand, feels like his fingers are all the way up to you elbow. So he showed me to Samer that. Look to me like a split. Finger. and. So I ended up. Doing exactly. What he showed me to do, and that's how I formed what eventually became forkball and ended up having a successful nine, hundred, eighty, two season. You Know Sandy as a man. I think he admires. The. Peace and quiet that you should have, and he's not one for notoriety or the celebrity. he loves basketball. and. If he has an opportunity to give you something. That will make you successful and keep you in the game. he's more than willing to do that, and that's what he did from me and I'll never forget him for that. Well, great great stories debut and I before I let you go you and I can do an entire and I want to talk about Your Business. Also off the field I'M GONNA get to in a minute you and I could do an entire show on this but you were recently part of a panel earlier this month called race in America candid conversation which was hosted. By NBC Sports Bay area, and you were joined by a couple of current black big Leaguers Gene Davis Edwin, D, as again, you and I can do an entire program on this. I'm curious you grew up in East Oakland near the headquarters of the Black Panthers the first Muslim mosque it was opened by Malcolm X. There was a time when the Symbionese Liberation Army had a presence in town I'm curious what kind of influenced these groups have on you as a kid even as young man. Well. The main of the first influence for me was was black panthers. And you know in the early sixties. Black people in the bay area they weren't very well respected by law enforcement i. mean it was it was brutal how? We were treated. And there were demonstrates all the time on the other side of the bay, not the other side of the bay but the other side of town which Berkeley. I mean cal Berkeley was notorious for demonstrations for you know doing things in the right way standing for justice. and. So the Black Panthers gave us the first. Real. To be respected and treated fairly in the things that they stood for and. You know you may not always appreciate how they did things, but it was effective and they worked in two different ways sometimes, it had to be strengthened by force. And sometimes it wasn't but when force was needed. It gave us a presence in the in the bay area and in the community and So I respected that the Symbionese Liberation Army that was. A totally different different thing for me you know and the Patty hearst part of I never understood. but I did understand the fact that they use that vehicle to. Get. Food for people who didn't have it and to. To bring in clothing and those different things the necessities for people who couldn't afford it. I don't know that I necessarily appreciate it the kidnapping of Patty hearst I didn't appreciate kidnapping Patty hearst to. To make that happen But from that, you know they were able to to help a lot of people in in that sense. and. Then when we talk about mathematics and the mosques that was on sixty seven or sixty eight and he's fourteen. as a kid I went there and. You know what I learned from from the Islam nation is that there was no division in the black race they stood powerful and they had morals and they had things that they stood for that we as. As a nationality and ethnic group of people should live by. Letter. you know and I know that back in that period of time of Malcolm people felt that the Islam nation did not like. The white race I never looked at it as them rebelling against the right white race but more of them, empowering us as black people in having US stand that we have resources and we have the ability. To stand together and be powerful and use our resources. To build and become better as as people. What I learned from that and so. that was my upbringing and you know I took bits and pieces from all of it. Along, with the foundation at my mother and my father gave me and my upbringing to. Try to do the right thing in my adult life and treat people in the way that I wanted to be treated. As to you love baseball I love baseball. I'm guessing anybody listening to this conversation loves baseball when you consider what's going on and the fact that just now Mitchell baseball is putting a pause on the marlins season after the outbreak in their clubhouse and the the cases continue to spike across the country. You know how very scary this is bottom line. Do you feel like? Do you think that we should be playing baseball right now? No gymnasts that's a tough question because the fan and me and the love of the game and what I've experienced as a player and how it heals. The country when you're having your most disappointing periods of time says we should be playing but. I think that it's becoming a little bit more obvious day by day you know the Marlin situation is unfortunate. But The truth is it's it's a reality of what we're facing in this country. There are people across this country that are suffering from the virus people who've died from the virus. You. Know we've talked about we've talked about social distancing and wearing a mask and making sure that you cover your eyes and you clean your hands and. You know the the protocol and practices that you need to try to be safe it doesn't ensure that you'll be safe but. It gives you a chance to be safe. So, what we're facing right now is is what we're facing in this country and I think that Major League Baseball. He's going to have to do one of two things they're going to have to look at a different protocol to keep these players safe and their families safe. Or? They'RE GONNA have to consider not finish in the season. But. You know you can't continue on. Now the marlins have seventeen players that have tested positive and are. Going to be shut down. and. Who knows? What the next real. SITUATION IS GONNA be in baseball. So it has to be considered that you've got to find another way to make the game. To continue to play the game. Safely. Or you're going to have to consider that this season may not be finished. Amazing run in such an amazing life both on the field and off the field you had that amazing career. You're a player agent, you or General Manager, and you've done business a lot of business off the field you and I've talked about your company ZAN bomb. What is the latest I? Understand you've launched a new HAMP- line in hand sanitizer. What is the latest with that company? Will that is exactly Jim You know with with. With the Zen with Zen Company we are. We Are we're doing a hand sanitizer now you know with. Everything that's going on now in this world hand sanitizers now become an essential and a thing that people need and they're gonNA have to have for many many years going forward. and. So On. Without even thinking about it, we were approached. About Penn sanitizer if we could possibly produce it and we found out that we could and So now we're producing hand sanitizer we have the same ingredients as our. As Our As our counterparts out there we're priced better and. We're priced at a time. Were priced at this time. To make reasonable for people to go in and purchase hand sanitizer. A lot of companies out there taking advantage of the fact that you know there's a shortage of hand sanitizer out there and they've got the prices and they made the prices as high as they can to purchase it our prices are reasonable. And It's a great product and then you mentioned I helped Prada where we are in rite aid stores with our product. And We are the first HAMP infused product in ride aid. You know in all of our products are all natural products there no chemicals and there their pain reliever that works it works immediately. It solve problems with. Arthritis if you've got back pains menstrual cramps. Whatever Then, is a product that's all natural and it works. Really quickly in terms of that like when I think of you I mean you're a throwback I. Think of you I think if somebody like Bob Gibson like the toughest toughest dudes ever in terms of pain relief what kind of a role do you think that Hamp and CBD Complain Baseball and you think the pro sports should look to replace pills with natural products. I definitely think that they should look to replace. Pills with natural products without a doubt is is there's nothing addicting about. an all natural products. There's nothing addicting about about San accept the fact that you feel so good that you wanna keep using it and I think that that's how it should be I think that the world is moving towards all natural products and all natural ways. To solve our aches and pains and and Baseball Hall Sports. At some point, they should look at that as a resource. To Take Care of the addicting pain relievers that are out there. Where besides rite aid worlds can listeners find out about the product and learn more about the company then pain reliever dot com. Twice, at one last thought I was thinking you've had so many amazing teammates. I'm GONNA take a shot here because I grew up in the San Fernando Valley. I grew up in Calabasas and I was a huge huge dodger guy and I'll say this is a fifty six year old man. Now Student I've done this thirty years my guy man, my hero, my idol, and we finally came together years after the fact was the Penguin Ron say what was it like to play with the Penguin I Guarino? Glad to hear you say that's do I'm so happy to hear. He said he doesn't say a whole hell of a lot in lot of times he comes off as grumpy grumpy grumpy. But. I would compare him with Mike Schmidt. Nolan Arrow Nado, you pick of your great third baseman today I compare with those guys. And he could swing the bat. He was in the middle of our lineup and he could swing the bat I mean he was in my opinion, a great teammate and a great player. I Love Ron Sake I. Love hearing that do like I. I'm going to say like my man, he didn't have the greatest range in the world and STU pardon my French on about to drop an bomb campaign was strongest fuck wasn't here eight eighty was, but he could swing Ned Batman he was unbelievable. Just great. Great. Great. Great teammate. Believable. Do this against you I, I WANNA, say a couple of things I want to say how much I appreciate our friendship. I want appreciate the relationship you and I've had over the years. I am very, very, very sorry about your mother's passing but I so appreciate your thoughts and you sharing and I think he gave us all something to think about and what can I say I consider you a very good friend and I appreciate the conversation still very much like all the others. Them. Thank you for having meal men and let me tell you something Bro. Don't tell people you're fifty six because you don't look at. My Man, appreciate you saying that I think I'm GonNa, go get a workout in. motivated mix it. All right. Take care of. What an amazing conversation, my sincerest and deepest thanks and gratitude to Dave Steward for keeping our conversation is calendar. After the terrible news, he received about the passing of his mother only twenty four hours earlier once again, my thoughts and condolences or with him and his family I appreciate him so much and I'm so glad that he was able to share some thoughts on his mom right off the very top I want to thank you all listening quick podcast programming. Note I will be back in two weeks on August nineteenth episode one, thirty, nine, one more summer road to whisk go, and then we're gonNA jam right through Thanksgiving so I will catch you in a little bit until then here your voicemails I knew message of Jim is Gerald a Mailman Don Louisiana WanNa see I really enjoyed that game and West podcast is my favorite one so far today who had goosebumps chills thanks keep up the good words Jim out. Must have saved next message Tajani in Texas here man this Damon, West, Palm I just listen to. Do totally. Had Me in stitches man brought it here I the dude has been through some serious stuff. But. He has the gumption to do the work to make his life better Jim, it's not often that I'll call you and tell you that you're the shit but you're the shit. Thank you for bringing that interview. It was enthralling I'm out. Massive saved. Next message. Justin in Green Bay, and I can't tell you how much. I. Love Hearing. Welcome to the jungle twenty years ago when I had a snake in college everyone's Day. We'd Party and feed my snake before we went bowling and every time I dropped him out and I turn that song and veto would. Little. Head out like you do time every time saving man. Oh Man. I love. Message deleted next message Romi. Justin and over. Jimmy idea for your next podcast let's have your rick on his favorite person Garrett Rick I mean think about the stories going back to the war back to the time when he was the poster child block, and then of course, is great stories without their doubleday playing a game of horse. MESSAGE DELETED NEXT MESSAGE This is Kirby driving around ups truck and often Utah I have goosebumps right now that was the best podcast I'd ever heard was about house. Amazing. We all need to be caught means. Thanks, Jim. MESSAGE SAVED NEXT MESSAGE JIM row matthew and Oxford Mississippi just got finished with the Damon West podcast having done five years in Texas penitentiary and having come from a pretty similar background Osama wife as well. Man Everything he said just resonated on so many levels of me and took me back to the backyard and pod and I also do prison ministry. You know trying to help out and go speak the people and everything he said is just right. That's correct. The people who are white we need to listen to other perspectives saying the West keep doing what you're doing Jim Rome you. Awesome love y'All Message saved next message. From island raw meat the side hustle is genius I. I got into it, listening to Tim Grover, and next I popped into Jaakko willing and he was the man and I just finished Damon West. I've got a full-time job and three part time jobs. So I'm already motivated and when I'm GonNa, listen to a motivational speaker, it's gotta be somebody that walks the walk in those three Jews are getting it done. I've got one little requests for you. Can you get more women on the show last one with Holly Robinson piece that was awesome. Well, thank fly. Rami Isao. MESSAGE SAVED NEXT MESSAGE JIM. This is Romo from Pasadena got done listening to your Damon West podcast. That was great man reminding me of Shawshank redemption. These are being and be the bean. Message saved next message. Jim My name is Mike. I'm calling from Pittsburgh last two days I've been on vacation turned into the show. All I. Care about his clams squirrel swimming on their backs to save their not today I gotta worry about some dude named Jeff talking about some women's junk. What happens Jim what's going on here? Who are these squirrels friends jobe the fucking bear boo boo squirrels eat not they don't eat leftover. Sandwiches they don't eat oreo cookie that guy was gasping. US. Jim Gap it up and he got a cold Dick Good God man what is going on? Message deleted you have no more messages you're listening to heartland newsfeed radio network live twenty, four, seven heartland newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by. Follow us on facebook twitter and instagram. This is the liberty beat your daily source for Liberty News and activists updates produced in partnership with the SNL s network and listeners like you online at. SNL LAST NETWORK DOT com. 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This week is heal itself world this incredible mister fantastic scheme Richard from the legendary rock steady crew Dj's Berga Connoisseur Beer Connoisseur rock. which everybody from dilated peoples. Daily. Cut Chemist Shadow. This kind of. Mister fantastic. Cambridge. Taken off the school rock officials. So rubbish, it turn ball hip hop and dynamite soul. You'll. So roughly I don't think he's ready. To Jump? Out Speakers. hypocrisies based off. Hailing from Philadelphia City known for producing internationally known deejays such as Jazzy Jeff cash money king, Britt Scheme Richards has put in nearly forty years of DJ and producing digging and spin and everything from funk and soul classic hip hop breaks and all things funky. He continuously strives to separate himself from the pack. The Global Dj Cultural Ambassador Foodie and pop culture preserver scheme Richard Swings by the podcast to put me on game reminisce about the golden era even though I suspect hates that term and what Philly is all about Oh we talk about calling through films which you really know about that. Real quick bedrooms dot com the website feel free to visit, stop buying, peruse the episode like all the other episodes can be found there anywhere you get podcasts also, you can buy a t shirt and or join the Patriot on the support the show patron dot com slash you guessed it bedroom. Beethoven's thank you guys for checking this up so it out and I urge everyone also check out in the stodgy king, the APP, the website, the man, the legend, all things scheme Richard. Episode Seventy Nine Party people in the place to be this is where it's at. Let me see if I still remember the old intro of. The incredible Mister Fantastic Scheme Richard's lover of all things fresh fly. flavorful. But never trendy sneaker head beat. Creator. GRAPHING ATTIC NOSTALGIA King Scheme Richards makes the whole world sing. Yeah man you got I can't even recite that. I mean this this is a big one for me because you know you interview people too. So if anyone can kind of critique me on my conversation skills would be useful. Go easy on me. I mean you were podcasting before Joe Rogan with a two dollar soul show. So I'm I'm literally just a guest in the House that you bill Yo- that two dollars soul show that. I checked that every once in a while that still get so many hits. I'm surprised and people are always like, Oh, you need to bring it back. You need to bring it back but I feel like I'm doing so many mixes at the at the moment, but I do need to bring it, bring it back because people love that show. So yeah, thanks for shouting out the two dollars solar cell I mean in this day and age, it could literally be the two dollars soul show if you the Patriots. And people two dollars for new episodes. I mean it would pay for itself. Exactly exactly and this I guess this is the moment. Now where you know uh as artists, we should be trying to I. Don't WanNa say capitalize on things but at least you know getting the value out of what we do you know in in generating some revenue especially because we can't travel at the moment is deejays or artists you know so yeah, I, mean, yeah, you're right. You're absolutely correct about that with let's go to simpler, times I'm a ninety kid what was a black household in the seventies paint me a picture here because there's two things I know right? The the seventies was the best because everything was original everything was fresh art nowadays, it's borrowed stolen influenced. But you've also been a collector since birth you know where your where your parents collectors or did you break the mold now I think I just broke the mold my cousin who was was collectors. Well, you know he was a big comic book collector his father was exit comic. Book collector. Growing up my parents you know as a Dj like my parents had records. That's where I think I got my love of music was from them. You know they had funk soul jazz a of Gospel in the house. You know my grandparents always had records. They had a lot of Gospel in the House My. Had A lot of jazz in the house and you know like the household was just a musical household a lot of TV 'cause you know TV in the seventies the Jeffersons good times like all of those shows were just was just great. So I think it was just culture just all around in general, which is, which is why I am the way I am today you know but it it was Kinda like just a typical middle class household where you know you go to school, you get good grades you come home, you get the Roger Bike you know you don't get good grades. You. Know you're not writing this summer? I didn't change. That was my child. You know and like you said like art right now you know everything is so barreled in kind of disposable becton like we were living in such a moment that we value but we didn't place value on it, and that's why a lot of that stuff is so valuable because it was something that we preserve. Now it's like you throw things away as it gets old but back then you you had it. Rebuilt, you had a technician coming in fixture. TV You didn't just go buy new flat screen. You had the Repairman commented and fixture TV. That's true. So back in the day if you if you were bad, you can ride your bike and what's the country tally up to now like how many places have you visited your in the triple digits now I imagine I I've been the only place that I have been. Debt I really WanNa go to his Australian. That's the one place I haven't been, but I mean all of America I've been all over Europe I haven't been ice on but you know Australia's the one place that I haven't been to Japan I go to every year I've been going there twelve years now every year consistently career I go to our year Amsterdam is like second home base you know Germany On there. So I like I've been around the World Africa I just came back from Ethiopia in February. So yeah, I've touched down a lot of places in the world. So I mean how how is that and you're doing like you said, Dj workshops in. Africa. Now, you can't leave your house. So I mean how how hard is it to adjust like? Really well, honestly, from me, it's not hard to adjust. I'm a DJ collector, a homebody, right? So I'm used to being in the house the fact that I can't necessarily leave the country elite sitting. Yeah. That's okay. But I know how to re- to like flip it and I have a lot of projects that I've either started or finished and released. So if I was traveling, I wouldn't have had time to be able to do all these projects so I just I. Just Donald my productivity into direction, which was join these projects in releasing these projects you know during more writing, writing for different magazines and publications in trying to put together the nostalgic magazine. So you know I, it's not really hard for me. The hard part definitely though will kick in probably in the next month or two when we still can't travel and then I'll be looking like I have to get out of here. I read all my comic books I've spent all my records. It's weird because like when q records shutdown physical media was on the decline, the vinyl resurgence wasn't until like two thousand, thirteen ish and now record stores a thriving now. But this pandemic is once again putting a hurt on those brick and mortar stores and someone's do. Yeah. It really is on a lot of them knew how to adapt and just start selling on instagram to keep you know to keep the lights on even the lights were off but to keep the lights on in the rent paid you know. A lot of them switched to instagram in that show, it turned out to be fruitful for them. A few shops have opened back up in there of course, during social distancing thing Yeah. Why I would say a lot of shops in the stairs starting to open back up in and you know starting to generate some revenue other countries yet Amsterdam shops have been back open Japan shops have been open so like America's always burst on everything, but we're so far behind in last place on this whole pandemic thing. I I'm not really digging the transition because it's not like you can go to Japan and walk into vinyl store give the vendor a piece of paper of your want lists, and then you get now alchemist is on twitter or DJ mugs, and they'll sell you a spider colored vinyl edition out of fifty for a hundred and twenty dollars with an OBI strip it signed or it's glow in the dark and yet you know like for me I still I still believe in you know there's a certain price in certain value on things you know everybody has their price or what they thought though. The value of something is, but as a collector, I didn't come in as a collector I came in as like I'm going to buy this new comic off the wall because it's you know it's twelve cents you know I I can't sell new product for certain for you know for absorbing mouse but you know some people will do that and you know more power to 'em I just I I wanna make things accessible for people you know and if I really WanNa do that super-duper limited edition thing than it'll be five, and then I can sold that for five hundred dollars because there's only five. Destined nature of the beast sneaker game is like that the art game there's certain things that I see now, where were records will come out and it'll be a ten dollar record today it'll sell out tomorrow and then by the weekend, it's one hundred dollar record and I'm like Okay like I get it but I don't get it. You know because it shouldn't. It shouldn't jump up in value that quick you know because it's going obviously come back down in the next month or so because people are are are marking at high so that They can get that that jump on the people who missed out. But if you wait around certain things, come back down. There are certain things that will keep its value but certain things we'll just we'll come back down eventually I. I just wanted to put things in people's hands and I you know I want them to collect it and understand it and appreciated, and then the value goes up and then if they wanNA, flip it. So bid you've already paid for it do what you WanNa do with it John and not just music too I think Sitting on Ebay right now I have the entire series of Kimba I'm selling only away under what it's worth. I Love Them. On Ebay for six months zero interest nobody wants sing but you know what? But it's one of those things where it's A certain market somebody want it at some point you know. What you know everything comes around because there are certain things that I tried to sell where nobody wanted it within the soon as somebody famous or with a little bit clout talked about it. Now, all of a sudden, it's become thing again, you know girls in having interested me until I got a girlfriend now I can't give the girls off me and that's the whole collective thing that. You know and everything is like that from when you look at all of the 'cause stuff with Amirah commie stuff for you know everything is just it's everything's hype. Now everything is straight hype. But then when you look at People's collections and it's like you have all the things that are hiep's you have no individuality and put things that shoot truly light and that's when I. that's when I can tell like a true collector or someone who just buys on hype. I. Agree. With that man I, I want to touch the knowledge out for those that don't know Kimbe the first anime series to be producing color. Know the second was. What was the second? Here's a hint. It's one of your favorite series of all. No. Good question I I'm sure if you say I'll be like Oh. Yeah you're right. Marine Boy Marine boy. Yeah Yeah Yeah you know what's funny. So speaking of Kemba For people that don't know you know Disney stole. Kimba. That's lion king rip off and lying. Can you know and that's and that's funny because it's just like there's America again gentrifying instilling. Stole something that was the Japanese, and now look about this. What if I told you that they embraced it when that thing went on sale in two thousand thirteen that was actually in the description like inspired Disney's Lion King. So they're using that as a selling point which as well as they should. Have a story for you. One that I think that only you can appreciate when I was twelve back in good nineteen ninety-seven. The release of the Special Editions of the Star Wars Trilogy were released into theaters at the beginning of the year. I'm sure you remember that. Yes. So for people like yourself raised on Crop VHS copies, this reissue was the first chance for my generation to see these films in the actual movie theater and I if I remember correctly, it came at a time when star wars was not necessarily dominating pop culture. I think there was a this was kind of the kickoff to the marketing campaign for the prequels I. think that's the reason why Long Story Short though me and my buddy go and unbeknownst to me. You got a free action figure upon entering. We arrived early. So my buddy and I went to the arcade in the theater and as we played various games, we separated and a grown adult came up to me and said, Hey kid I'll give you forty dollars for that toy and I was like, why are you an idiot? Yeah I'll take your money I mean. I, I gave them my toy and adult. gave me forty dollars. A kid is a lot of money you know. So I- excitedly. About what happened and instead of him high fiving me he called me an idiot. Toy was worth if not more at the time it's GonNa be worth way more down the line and you just got hustled and how you got you really did get hustle. The thing is I haven't been able to track down or pinpoint any toys on Ebay or anything to see if that statement was correct. But that moment always stuck with me I think I'm afraid to check the sandwich. Those figures are worth what you should you should find out and then kick yourself for letting it go. I mean shame on the adult for conning a kid, right There's no shame shame. The collectors market man people will hustle and swindle their way to the top man to get what they want like. I I truly believe like me. If I. if there's something I want I will outbid you. I will out phone call you. I will out money you to get what I want want somebody felt that way about an item. Honestly, I haven't really felt like that in a while simply for the fact is I'm not really on the hunt for anything. That's GONNA. Really run up the you know the price like that but the minute something does pop up on back on it it's it's it's it's a no brainer especially if if it's like something super rare or limited. He and I want it. Yeah. I'll get it always. So when let me see like how you how your attitude over like film Hollywood decides the Cast Wayne Brady, his grave digger to you scoffing through your hands in the air or you cool with decisions like that. Now see see especially with dome it has to work. It has to match the heart has to be plagued by the right person you can't just throw. Anybody in certain roles on his grave dig unlike me. Yeah, you gotTA. Have somebody else with that locker that class or or something like he? Yeah. He somebody like that is definitely not fitting the part for me. So what what's your take on someone like Tarantino? Who Kind of footholds Bruce? Lee. into his movies like were you offended by his depiction? No I. Wasn't and here's why. Because one that was Tarantino's. Impression or his telling of a story, right? It was five minutes out of a three hour movie. Anybody who was offended by that it's like so you just you just blocked out the other two hours and fifty five minutes of this move me right everyone knows bruce had a little bit of arrogance with him. You know I'm not if that really did happen I wouldn't be surprised I don't think that happened or. Bruce matter had a run in with someone and it might not have been that exact way but bruce wasn't like the Nice. Guy You know he had his issues with him too. You know. So he had his arrogance with and rightly so he's Bruce. Again, Hollywood. Yeah it's you know I'm not offended by the Tarintino 'cause Tarantino always exaggerates every situation that's what he does. Yeah. Fair. Enough I. I was surprised that his family couldn't come to that same viewpoint. Well the thing about his family and it's not even it's not even as family to daughters. Yeah. That's his is daughter I his daughter is at odds with the original Bruce Lee Foundation people like people were legitimate his students people were who legit friends who used to run his organization who would run the organization into the ground and Witton licenses name just on anything they're all at odds with the daughter because the door controls it now and she sells his license on potato chips on soft drinks, own cell phones because she's keeping money circulating right on MMA, and all that stuff like. She's not keeping his legacy in in in the best interest she's keeping the money flowing you know so. I see why she's mad because if people look at Bruce in a different way, this might stop her money from flowing Oh. So when Bruce Lee is in a UFC video game that decision probably came from her that came from her why Zach? Exactly. Yes. So like soft drinks and everything like things that Bruce Lee would have never been on or his his his foundation would never licensed his likeness. She's the one making all the decisions now. And even that ESPN documentary that came out there was a lot of things that was left out. People don't talk about you know Bruce Lee cheating. On his wife like people don't talk about that, you know people who were around back in the seventies in. No these things. From documentaries that came out back then they got hints of what was going on. But anything you see a Bruce Lee now going forward is going to make him seem like he was the best person. He never did anything wrong which is not true. His life was definitely short. We never know what his career would have been had. He still been alive. You know he's GonNa win any one of two directions he could have really been successful doing what he did or he could have really went you know commercial doing something else you know so. None of this surprises me you know, and that's why it's hard for me to interview certain people because certain questions are off the table and I'm like. Well, what's the point interviewing you? I want to know the real you I. Don't want to know the Hollywood you. I, want to know the real year. Is the bedroom NATO in. A. I don't need to tell you that twenty twenty is a strange time to at all the craziness. We still deal with the stigma where if you aren't on the social media platform that everyone's using, you tend to feel left out right well, what if I told you that there's a social media and news curation platform called my feed and their desire is to fix the issues that have been presented to society by Social Media For instance this is. A music podcast, right? 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Be out of bounds I said, nope, you're absolutely correct. We're calling something the golden era well, first of all, like that that term golden era I I question that term right there because in any era if you looking at Comic Book Era and you look there's bronze comics there's gold right this sober era, the golden era should not be the ninety S. The golden should be pryor 'cause the golden air should be the like the initial errors that sparked this. Right. So like so it's always when people I feel like by the nineties is when everything blew up and that was everyone's like teenage years and everybody got hip to it. So that's why it's like the golden era for everybody but for me, the golden era is the eighties. 'cause that's the foundations of everything like the seventies is the initial years eighty, five, eighty, six, the golden era because that's when styles and everything was coming to play by the time the nineties hit around MTV was already in full swing and you know it was just like, okay. Now accessible to the world into the masses and that was that change over that ninety, four, ninety, five air that was that changeover chorus able to like rap music when I remember in the eighties year was not acceptable anyone that wasn't black to like rap music. So all the cool stuff that was happening like Wagner's ballroom is that prior to that or? Was a little bit of Mike before the egos in the ability trickled in well, you got to think about it when when stuff like Wagner's ballroom and the Wind Plaza or wimp ballroom. You know the Mayfair like those places were just straight like ballrooms that were being rented out by Dj's who would just throw an incredible parties. You knew who was going to be there. It was going to be all black people there right that's what was there was there was no one else going to these New York, of course, you had like black and Latino. Yes. But in feeling like you had all black people that. Go into these spots. So the accessibility for everybody was not there when it became accessible to everybody was early ninety, seven, ninety, one, ninety, two is when in Philly I started seeing other people at these events and I can tell you to actually the exact point we were doing a party called club hardcore It was on second and Walnut and the opening night crush videos was filming out the son of beserk came down. Run DMC. was there run was there and Russell Simmons was there who and it was like some other New York heads because the Guy Gary who threw the party Gary was industry guy. So he knew everybody this was the first time at Philly Party a hip hop party that I had seen white kids there and it was like Oh shit what's going? Oh You know and that was the defining moment. Dab was like, okay. This is going someplace else and it was called. It went someplace else it was like, okay this is cool. So. Yeah it's. It's. It's we're in a weird space right now because it's just so accessible for everybody in you know it used to be like everybody was trying to keep it official in real and raw, and the now it's just like so much fraudulent comes in the play and it's accepted. You know everything's just become accepted whether it's being dispe behind doors behind closed doors is one thing but it's being accepted to the masses. And No one speaking up on what's whacking what's not whack a let's say in that time period. Are you familiar with treacherous Funk disco? Yes. They lived in they lived in Winfield I believe and they I think they were on fifty eighth street, which was right around where will Smith is from right? Yeah. You live like four or five blocks I mean if I'm brushing up on my philly history, I'm looking at DJ spin. Bad. At Dj groove. Freddie blast I'm looking at people like that. You know. Because when it came the spinning breaks, he was the guy to beat. Around he had that S P twelve I think you have that? S P. Actually Now. So he was one of the first cats to have one because you can go to your local store and just pick it up. So if you add it, you had it. I'm from went fill. So like group, that's my g that's who taught me to Dj right like or that's who taught me to be official degen because I was already de Jiang before I met him but he taught me how to be. Official and you know like will live around the corner from me like I grew up will win. It's funny. Because will use to actually manage me an my old emcee who used to be wills dancer, right? So I you know I seem we'll. I. Knew will out new will's brother will sister her name was the fresh prince s like you know she was she was MC her and her girlfriend they had crew. Yet like. Spin bad and let's talk about spin back for a second spin bed is the guy who created the transformer scratch. Look. I'M A kid. He's created to transparent scratch. Is There A. is there a misconception about who created that? There's always been a misconception about who trade because there's so many stories going around about the person first person who did it? On Wax. The first person who did it on radio on the first person who did it? You know wherever the person who did it I was spent at and spin bed get it at all city DJ battle. At the went a windfall and that was the first time anyone in city had heard. So he was the first person do it, and then everybody else took the pers personal wax person wherever I personally tour or whatever. It be spent bag. WHO DID IT I So you have you have the. People like Dj, double K, whose uploading a bunch of these practice tapes from the eighties featuring grandmaster Nellie. No. Still to this day you have mixes that the people who made them don't even have and you hold on this stuff like that because the minute hits Youtube, it's value has now decreased. So is what is what he doing like I mean, is there a lot of people that believe these tapes aren't collectors items their music that should be heard? What's the stance was to arguments? He is he committed a Faux Pas and music no, I just felt. Like people want to fill important. So people throw what they have out there because everybody the thing is we're living in a liked society. Everybody wants likes everybody wants hits everybody you know for me I'm preserving the stump because at the end of the day, I'm going to try and do a museum or showcase or something you know I. This is black culture I believe black culture has value. If we keep giving everything out free the, where's the value in it? So I'm a historian with this I'm trying to collect every philly flyer every New York Flyer. Every. Every Japan Flyer would I'm trying to be the historian so that I could present this in a in a correct way whether it's a book or whether it's a museum or whatever it needs to be presented we just keep putting everything on Youtube nobody like people watch it and they don't really respect that. You, know everybody wants likes in incite hits. I. Think you just defined the edgy battles that are going on right now the idea battles is another thing. Yes it's. It's. It's that's what it is. It's it's everybody likes wants lights and like. I mean it's there's there's no right or wrong in that. You know people do things for different reason you know I know collectors who will never ever show what they have because they don't want the world known and they're collecting for them and I applaud them for that. You know that's that's good because the the art collector with the craziest art collection isn't telling people what he has. He's telling his circle of other collectors what they have, but he's not telling the world you know what he has. So I I you know I appreciate that, and then once you show your hand and everybody starts trying to get or by what you have in your hands so. I get it and then I also get people showcase everything. So when when and the studios shut its doors five years ago I mentioned that because you were present around the recording period of return of the boom bap with quote unquote rising star Dj Premier. You have one of the early tapes, four twelve and even drought. So. You have that you're not going around telling people you have that. nope. But before that was in mass consumption. What was your take on it? Let's just say hindsight's twenty twenty of course, but you're talking about the debut album of care one. If that album was garbage, you probably wouldn't have held onto because the classic you knew when you heard it like this is worth collecting. I'm GonNa, put this a drawer. This is part of my clientele, but but that's the misconception because I never set out to collect. It was just I had it and it's a it's a moment from my life in time for my life. So it just sat there like I have garbage tapes garbage opposite. I'm like Ahmed so-and-so. gave me this. But like if I go back and listen look at it like thirty years later I'm like, oh I was actually in the studio when so and so did this or you know I was on tore when? So and so gave me this. So everything is a story you know regardless of the quality of it everything's story you know so that album could have been garbage but the fact that I was Indian at that time the that's the. Story for because people are always saying how can you let Nykanen place that shutdown but I never knew that Primo ended up buying the joint but the worst part is as he signed a lease with a demolition clause which allows them to terminate the lease anytime. If they decided to tear down the building promotion, have a lawyer present when he signed that. Yeah. But that's the that's. That's a lot of things really sucks about like digging D. or or anything right now not even not even studio. Wise. But look at how many. Like institutions were in New York whether it was the famous. cafe or the famous restaurant famous bar that had been in Times Square. Since nineteen sixty five, you know and was there all throughout the crack era and then through the nineties it was the after hours spot where people left the club in went and got a good burger. Those people rent it for fifty years and never owned the building. So when somebody came in and went to condos there. It was a rap who would've ever thought any of this stuff would close down or or condos would be the big thing who would have ever thought but look how many iconic studios are no longer. There Chongqing Haussa metal just like everything that was in new. York what what was the one was that one just plays on what the just by. You'll have to educate me on that one. He just plays I thought he had he had bought wanted to studios at one time I forgot what it was, but there was a studio he had which was like a legendary student, but it was like it's it's because he I think he changed the name the baseline but I could've sworn he he bought one of the like the Oji like also spots. But like all of those places I mean look at all of the clubs like Ceelo, look at home base in the music tunnel in all those spots, the dollars clubs nineties that I used to go to those people didn't own the property. You know they were paying landlord, throw it to have a club there. It kind of sucks because no one thought about that that in the future condos would be the thing in landlords would just be like, take this money and sell this property like you say Dj's only care about the paycheck club owners only care about how much they're making at the bar and the partygoers lonely care about getting drunk. So how do you stay in love with the craft? How are you still getting booked at places that appreciate what you do? Well. For one like I love music. So regardless of whether I'm making a living off of this or I have to go work nine to five I'm always gonNA come home and listen to music like that's just that's just who I am. So I think it's the adrenaline in the thrill of me playing party or me jumping on a flight and going to another country is that Adrenalin or label sending me a new test Presser Promo it's it's it's all adrenaline based. less it stops less label stop sending in. There's no music coming out I'm always WANNA listen to music or DJ music. I have fun is what's keeping me young you know like I feel like I haven't aged one bit because this Dj world is really just keeping me feeling young. So as long as it's keeping me young I think I'm GonNa have that hunger to always do it. The next year is going to be forty years you've been doing it man. Since eighty one yeah, which is, which is crazy to even think about like getting one turntable in a mixer for Christmas. Right and then scratching to a tape deck for two months before I got another turntable like that's that's crazy like that's disciplined. Most kids will most kids. Today are getting two turntables right out the out the gate I had to save lunch money to get records is there was an Arado like like I had to save lunch money there was no downloading. Can't. What's in the podcast perhaps all these bedroom producers and and DJ's at home they litter the Internet without having to go out in public and battle and get booed you know. So they don't that's how you get perspective but there's so many introverts so many people that that just want to this people online instead and now the next generation might be a little bit softer I don't know. Yeah. It's definitely I remember my first my first like elementary school DJ battle out in the school yard I remember losing that battle because I wasn't good. I don't even think I have my own turntables at that time. I think I was still practicing on light somebody from schools, older brothers, turntables, and like I lost that battle and that was very hurting feeling of moving up at. Eleven eleven years old. That's a hurting feeling and I and I woke up and I said, you know what? I'm never losing the battle again, and after that day it was like, okay I'm battling these other eleven year old and I'm winning you know back then we were battling for crates. Records might have only been five records in the crate, but we were calling for crates records you know. So yeah, an even my og. We were doing shows or something. He was he would like he would if I wasn't ready he yeah. He wasn't let me touch a mic or touch the turntables step onstage he. Because that's what og is supposed to not let you showcase into your ready. You know and it's too easy for a lot of bedroom people to just you know I'm GonNa. Put Up my soundcloud song you know and it's just like who did you tested on? You know like you didn't test it on any. You tweeted today that America will never be what it once was and I'm not saying that in a good way either and that is that straight to the point man, you know, how do you think things are going to change everyone used to look at us because we were a leader and now everyone's looking at us because we're the fools with egg on our face, right? So that's one. No one's taking a serious but when you look at the presidency situation and how he's alienating not only the people of this country but alienating countries right and how we're locked down and how this pandemic we're like we're we're at absorbent numbers right now we're blocked from going to certain European countries because they're like, not. You stay over there don't bring that. We always had free rein that travel this world. Now, we can't travel. At. All. How do you think someone an artist who travels for work feels We're we're we're screwed? You. Know. I'm not traveling deejays aren't traveling until two thousand, twenty, one period. It's not happening. There's no festivals there's no clubs. And even if there's a club and Korea. The Korean government's GonNa like milk Americans aren't allowed in until you get your shit right. Until until you get healthy again. Here's the only thing that I can offer up. You've you've weathered the IPOD MP streaming traveling not traveling pandemics, highs lows, and you're still here and I have no reservations about you being able to thrive and adapt I really don't I mean there's there's a couple of people that I worry about you. I'm not worrying about my Oj used to tell me like when it came to like relationships and you know you break up with your little girlfriend whatever and I remember he told me one time he was like never never never let anyone puts you in a position that knocks your world off its axis, right? So In this situation I, know how to adapt and it's like, yeah. I. Can still be creative at home doing other things because in that's the good thing when you have a creative jeans and creative in multiple interest, you can jump on any of those interests to to survive to make a living. You know to do whatever people who do one thing who they're pretty much relying on that one. Avenue or lane they're the ones who really can't adapt because they have focus. So long on that one thing that it's hard for them to even reinvent themselves right there's a lot and this kind of the part where I want everyone to know all these lanes you to not only tell people where they can find you but I also want you to promote that APP the interview series Nostalgia King. Wishful thinking but the two dollars show coming back. I want to give you the floor to promote all those avenues yet. So you know my my streaming APP ON NERVE FM is nerve dot FM, slash skiing richards, and it's basically a streaming at where all my mixes video content just all exclusive content up their record recommendations of the day You know you just get you get so much content and I can live stream on it. So I don't have to worry about getting knocked off by Instagram or any of that So you know I like I highly recommend you love good music of all genres mind nerve FM at this is the way to go its. Apple and Android is definitely the way to go. You can stream the mixes you can download the mixes you know nostalgic King Dot Com. That's where I do all record views of all the latest stuff that's coming out from all like all independent labels funk soul jazz hip hop, whatever also to art reviews, and and as well as like you know new book reviews won't like books that are really really digging You know that you know the the usual skin riches instagram you know I I, guess that's the definitely the best place ex Cambridge's instagram facebook them on there but the skimmers instagram is really where I'm going heavy on. Twitter at hobbies and butter I bug out on on twitter twitter's like my release when when I just WanNa go ran tour or whatever just bug out so. Yeah. You know I'm around I'm here there and everywhere I love that man scheme I. Just I want to thank you for bringing a slice of Philly to the podcast for Gracie my podcast, your presence, a million. Thank yous. Yeah. No doubt man I mean, Hey, you had some of the heavy hitters on there and you have a man Jay zone. So I'm like, yeah, this is definitely up my alley and I'm enjoying it so much props to you on doing this show because I feel like. Like this is important. Especially right now for people you know like it was important when you started it and it's important now especially with the pandemic going on and just like giving people the outlet to speak in and just talk about their life you know their craft or whatever. So much props you I know it's not easy doing journalism at all. It's a one man show over here. You know it. Yeah. So yeah, it's it's. It's don't man keep doing what you do real I appreciate you man thanks so much. No doubt. You're listening to Hartman Newsfeed Radio Network Live twenty, four seven at heartland newsfeed dot com. This stream is supported by advertisers and contributions by. Sue. US On facebook twitter and INSTAGRAM's. This is the liberty. Beat your daily source for. 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Of Classic Radio, theatre quiet please. The thing on the. Board as it was broadcast seventy two years ago today August. Eighth. Nineteen. Fifty three. We. Thank you for tuning in on this Sunday edition. It is the ninth day of August, the two hundred twenty second day of Twenty Twenty one, hundred, forty, four days remaining Henry David the Rose Walden recounting his experiences at solitary life on the shores of Massachusetts as Walden pond was published in eighteen, fifty four. Betty boop is ninety years old maybe more. She premiered in her first cartoon dizzy dishes on this date in nineteen thirty. Jesse Owens became the first American to win four gold medals in one Olympics on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, thirty six, and it was on this date in one, thousand, nine, hundred, forty, four, the Forest Service and the wartime advertising council release posters featuring smokybear for the first time. 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Those horror stories that you told around the campfires. And told him better than anything ever could? Because horror was best without visuals I don't cow CGI you throw into something or how Ma-, how creative the visuals become. Nothing. Will scare you as much as the creations that can happen within your own mind. This episode of quiet please from seventy two years ago today August Eighth Nineteen, forty eight does such a thing Willis Cooper who by the way was the original creator of lights out. And had to leave it in the hands of very fine gentleman to handle that program are nobler. But the original. Willis Cooper scripts were so terrifying and so horrific. that. They were nineteen thirties shows that you've never heard again because they were too frightening for broadcast again, it was different era back then. And yet this series. John Dunning refers to best a potent series Burr bristling with rich imagination unfortunately because it was on ABC and mutual, it didn't get the attention it deserved. So let's listen to this episode. Of A quiet please seventy two years ago today August eighth. Nineteen forty eight the thing on the Forbes Board. What's affordable board? Ernest Chappell. will explain it to you in just a few moments. Quiet please. Oh Broadcasting System presents quietly is which has written and directed by Willis. Cooper. At which features Ernest Chappell. Quietly is for tonight, has called the thing on the Parole Board. May erupt deck. Well, I was a rough roughneck. I mean twenty years ago a little too old to slow now. Is Is it got a dollar now I. Don't have to be arrested neck. You See. Mary got a nice home. That's my wife. Hey, Mike. Name's Maxine, but she likes to be called Mike. Mike. I guess she's busy out in the kitchen someplace besides she doesn't hear very well. Shame to she's so pretty and everything. Well you'll meet her. So now. Our. Saying how's IT roughneck? Well. No. That doesn't mean exactly what you think of means roughneck an oilfield workers specifically guy a drilling crew column roughnecks like you call a section hand on the Railroad Gandy Dancer Garage and Grease. Monkey. Same time you work around the drilling crew, you're going to be a rough neck and every sense of the word way. Derek floor or fobel boards no place for a guy with the Bowtie. because. When you have to fool around with drilling homes, go farther down the ground that it isn't a top of pikes peak down to sea level. And sure they do. Time I was roughneck. We got this one, well, seven three, hundred thirteen feet that was a record. For last May, pure oil brought out in the valley in Wyoming at fourteen, thousand, three, hundred, and nine feet. That friend is almost three miles. Quite a whole lot I don't think there's an all around the world on one at one time or another. What's down there besides rock all Ireland Gas. Wireless made a trees died twenty million years ago. Wireless made out of dinosaur bones while it's maybe. made out of the flesh and blood men maybe they beat each other, the the stone axe eight sabertooth tiger for lunch. Wondering. You look at the cores that come up from wait on there and sometimes it little shells trouble bites mostly there was a live in Manhattan island where New York is was under having my life. We've found some wants me and really GRUNWALD and. Something found us. I'll tell you about it. Down to around fifty, four, hundred feet we'd set casing we began to get water. So we hadn't stopped drilling in Sacramento off we see one water begins to seep in the holy pull, your drill pipe. Then you let down a Semitic Jew inside the casing and you plug up the bottom of the whole casing and all quick hardening waterproof cement. them, it's hard to drill through the cement gone down on the cement outside the casing and the bottom keeps water out. Well, we had the drill pipe. All Greg Mister met was setting see. So he was shut down waiting for it to harden. We've been calling just before. You. See a accord drill is hollow and as a bit digs down, it stops the drillings up inside. So when you pull it out, you got a sample of the kind of stuff going through and a geologist can tell laugh that. So there's nobody around the rig except me that night the rest of the is going into town I was toasting some jobs over the fortunate, Myself Burger to Car Carpool and. Look out. It's really grunwald geologist and I give them the hollow I have four job working. Whereas everybody knows all went down I. Have a whole crew I had three blow off between here in Oxnard wondered where he was dead said you've been here about three would have been except for my tough luck. Charm dead. Hungry, Star Yeah I got six. Seven shots, bread. And some coffee kind of swell. Bottle in the car if we're to have a banquet. Core. That's what I came up here to look at back there on the bench look at it at the. Take. What. You say you were all alone here. I thought I heard somebody talking. To anybody. Keep an eye on that one of any supper I'm watching it. I think the copy of. So. When you finish semantic this morning. Last Tower only made about ten feet those attend shut down for we get flooded out of house and home. Funny about that water? Mao on the any at that level according to my figuring well. There is. Is Salt sure at the bottom of the ocean Funny. Well maybe I'll be able to tell something from core. I. Hope So. Alaska I looked at sworn. We were getting into shale seen none yet from cuttings. Funny. Port jopstone. Takes some. Bread. Tax. All. Good. Earth. and. Put another two already boy you come much black. You know you never can tell what's done. You got it all mapped and plotted out all strata. And all you know what comes out of the whole Night to go down there sometime I was little enough. Never get you done. You'd fit. Skinny. I'll stay up here and look at the cores but. Or is that behind you? Over there. Well have a look at. Once, you finish your supper gotta look at it. But another part Joplin. Go screech. What's the matter? Of A or What? WHAT'S THE YOU Know out of Warner's. World War II you're crazy. There's nobody up there. Standing, by the just record, one on slip come on back in ancient pork chop. Only what you so jittery about billy. COMPANY JUST SANDWICH Here. Yeah. Thanks working. I'm just naturally that way I. Guess. I'm always scared of the dark. Don I I. Hate to be a baby but I can't help it scandal the dark. Honest. Still. Putting. Oh I don't know. Everybody scared US some. Made. Spider scare the of me. Like widows. I feel really. There are another light over here. Yeah. Hey listen to forty. Go out to the car and left hand door pocket and bring back that bottle. That's what I need okay kid. Okay So, pick up a flashlight I turned around and went outside I found the car. And I got the bottle. On, the floor of the Derek was all up and when I saw beam a light, suddenly flash up toward the forest board and I left. Billy Grunwald in his ideas. Sure I looked up. Wasn't a darn thing up there except the drill pipe racked against the fingerboard. All this FOBEL board. Well, you've seen oil derricks. Pictures. You know the little platform that runs around the outside the about halfway up. Well that's the board. Pipe comes in length and you handle them with several link screwed together. So it's the same time getting them in the whole to length double threes triple for is a formal. When you pull a pipe, you heist it up inside the Derek or the traveling block which moves up and down from the crown block at the top of the deck. then. When a fall blowpipe is pulled out his held in the rotary table, you break the joint with towns like a great big stilton ranch seat. Snub a cable. It's fast to the hand over the CAT head on the draw works and that breaks the joint. Then you all the time on the pipe, give the rotary table a few turns done. Screw you heist away with a traveling blocking, swing it over against the thing aboard lean against the deck. The Guy Up on the board takes off the traveling block. You do it all over. Again you got the pipe watches see. Well. There wasn't anybody up on the board except a screech owl it flew away. So billy turned his light off and. I come on inside. And just as I, come up the steps, he let out a yell. What's the matter matter? Look here. What's it look forty? My. Did you find that unless I give you my word that was embedded in the core. Why couldn't be I take it was. Dug it out. You know what? That rock there comes from a mile underground and it's been a mile underground for him they in years. And look at this. And I did look. What he was holding was a gold ring. And it was all carved and filagree at just like jewelry. There wasn't any kidding about it. It was real. Wait a minute. Hang on high done. I poked at the corner. Rock that looked like. Kind of. Petrified Salami or something. And then it was my turn to pretty new jump out of my pants. Because right alongside the place where a billion Dugout, the ring. was a mud. But Very. UNMISTAKABLE. Finger. I picked it up. And it was cold. And it was heavy. and. It was solid rock. At least felt like solid rock. I. Looked at building to me. He started to rub the mud off this year. Stone Finger. And is he rubbed it? Had begun to disappear. He could he could still feel it. He said, but when the mud was gone. One of US could see it. Hey dropped it to the Derek Florida might. I couldn't find it anyplace. Done. We took that bottle and we took unfinished billion me. We finished it in one slug of peace and it was a full pint of batum. Janna tasted just like so much well-water. Who just getting started from seventy two years ago August eighth nineteen forty eight Willis Cooper's quiet please starring Ernest Chappell. I'm Wyatt Cocks. You're listening to Classic Radio Theater what radio does. Best. And, that's coming up in a moment. We'll have the news of the day from seventy two years ago. Thanks for tuning in. When you're a pro, you gotta do a little bit of everything a little. A LITTLE Can even a little. Helps to have something of works as hard as you do. That's why vows bar has a pain for every job every room every time vows bar you make it happen we make it possible pros head to Los. Today and talked to a pro rep about getting up to ten free gallons. 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Or listening to an episode of Willis Cooper's chilling quiet please starring Ernest Chappell as it was originally broadcast Sunday August eighth nineteen forty eight in the newspapers of that Sunday seventy two years ago. These were some of the headlines. Talks between the Western powers and the Soviet government on the big four stalemate over Germany appear to reached a critical point at this time it can't be said definitely at the Moscow talks will produce agreement or actual negotiations in the Council of Foreign Ministers on Germany or any other European problems John hightower writing for the Press quotes Secretary State Marshall Having broke a well-established work pattern Saturday, the leave his country home near Washington, and go to the State Department office to review the latest developments. Meanwhile on Voice of the three Western powers expect a call from Soviet foreign minister via Molotov today or tomorrow to resume negotiations to solve the West deadlock in Germany and perhaps all of Europe. While the Congress ended its thirteen day extra session Saturday night the Senate adjourned at eight, thirty nine, the House quit at seven, thirty one and Congress a tone tickets Saturday on anti-inflation and housing legislation before slamming the door on the extra session called by President Truman Congress had met July Twenty six minute session eleven working days alive German was until December thirty first with the probation that the session may be resumed earlier on call of the Republican leaders in Senate. There was an angry argument before the adjournment was voted thirty nine to twenty nine acting Republican leader wary of Nebraska Enacting Democratic leader tidings Maryland were the principles presiding officer Vandenberg warned against disorder which he liked into a riot. More than one hundred nominations for government posts set by President Truman to the Special Session of Congress died Saturday night. When the Senate failed to take action on them, the president can give the nominees recess appointments pending action at the next session of Congress. Budgetary housewives increase their by no meat campaign over telephone wires Saturday in the face of a government prediction that meat prices will go higher the boycott plan originating in Dallas spread to such cities as Miami Louisville Boise Idaho Kansas City San Francisco Indianapolis Fort Wayne Sixteen cities in Texas. Half a dozen in Wisconsin housewife's crusade was aimed directly at one of two causes given by the Agriculture Department record consumer buying power and declined the output of meats and other livestock products. Meanwhile, the department predicted that meat and other livestock prices will lead retail food price advance in the next few months. The House on American Activities Committee revealed Saturday than Alexander Corral is the mystery witness supposed to help crack the real story of a red spy network with the committee was mysterious as ever about who corral is a subcommittee who hurried to New York Friday to see the key witness question corral Friday night in Washington. The Republican from South Dakota Congressman Monday acting committee chairman told reporters fellow they want specifically the scene was corralled was supposed to lead to another witness not yet mentioned. Senator Ferguson Michigan raised the cry of impeachment. Saturday night in a bitter attack on. President Truman for refusal to let the lawmakers have loyalty files on government workers for use in red spy inquiries coding Ferguson in a Senate speech Congress is rapidly being pushed into the intolerable position of having either the legislate through a blind spot or compelled the president to answer for his conduct in impeachment proceedings. That was only one of several references. The Michigan Senator made to impeachment and Milan address, and he set forth a long list of other accusations of censorship and secrecy. In addition to vote loyalty file town the White House said nothing to say in reply. Eight hopes that a bill to repeal taxes on only margarine. By Special Session of Congress died Saturday when the Democrat senator from Arkansas Fulbright dropped plans to attack an Oleo amendment to the anti-inflation measure the fight to repeal the half century old tax on Oleo was one of the bitterest of the last regular session who's favoring repeal many of them from the south came close to victory than ever before. A two would be service station robbers and Oklahoma City met and obstinate attendance Saturday. He attended George W Brown I refuse to give them the money and then turned down a request to help shove their car because it stalled. He said I'm going inside to phone the police move on Blow your head off I've got a gun in their. Brown was inside the station. However, another car pulled into the station and show the car away. And though some of the day's top news stories reported in the newspapers of Sunday August eight, nineteen, forty, eight on your radio quiet please which continues next here on classic radio. 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But he looked at me, he started rub the mud off this year. Stone. Finger. And is he rounded. Had begun to disappear. No, he could. He could still feel it. He said when the mud was gone. One of US could see it. Dropped to the Derek Florida my. and. I couldn't find it anyplace. So, you know what we done. We took that bottle in. We took an finished billion me. We finished it in one slug a piece, and it was a full of Bathtub Janati to just like so much water a. and. Then we sit down Derek. Flora. We looked at each other. Didn't say a word. My eyes got heavier and heavier. Last. Thing I remember what I heard some kind of noise Zena becoming. Full board eighty feet above us. Shut my a minute. Old Range. Black widow. spiders crawling all over me with gold rings on her leg. Things I got here, but I couldn't see. On the board. grunwald climbing up a ladder outside the Derek GonNa Moonlight. Faces is looking at. WHO THEY WERE Waked up by. Horrible screen. cracked. The whole. Is just. Lying floor two feet away. With a broken neck. With a broken neck. And his left hand. Put. The gold ring finger his left hand his arms spread up. His. Little Finger. And the ring. Gone. ooh. Friend I got out of there. I run down to where billy left his car and I got they stepped on the. Going to go and then I remembered. Around on the battery. was going up there and go through a deadman's close to get it. Out there in the car shivered all by myself to. Ten in the crew came at the state COP and everybody in the world was asking questions it. You really have a fight boggy Georgia we de had been drinking. We only had little pike. What was he doing? Open the phone board. Had threatened them into run up there to get away cop don't be job billy groom all our good friends and why did you push him off before blighted and I tell you I was not there. What did he go there for I don't know. I was asleep. I was up there. I. Didn't say what you said so. Besides. How many breaks neck if he doesn't fall way up there well, look officer I think it was just another accident I mean, we haven't been anything on porky and as I don't believe it did it. Well, that's mighty. Mysterious isolate is we got to do now how about it? That's hot down there I want to start drilling again I'm short handed. Let foggy stay here tonight, running-mate pipe again and Then, you can take him and ask him questions and you're blue in the face. Okay let's get rolling. Steve Harvey. All Right Haughey. You'll go overboard. Not Be dead on your boob. Data overboard. Hey can put a safety line around you want to. This is you're getting paid what you told I'd like to look. Like. Grew up in the phobos. And you. A good gender around before I didn't. See a thing. So I signal to the Gillette down the traveling block and he did aim sailing down from up above I was just reaching for it to pick up the first formula deal. Getting a big jerk in the cable broke. And dropped nearly pulled me off. And it landed. On top of Ted. And if you have any idea what a guy looks like two tons of metal. To. I was enough to accidents in narrow. The whole crew quickly wasn't going away for a third. And it was Ted's money that was paying off. There wasn't any more and. As far as I know the abandoned Derek still there. and. That was twenty years ago. Oh. I forgot to tell you something. That traveling block was right in front of my face when it broke loose. was hanging by steel cable three quarter inch steel cable. I saw that cable break right before my eyes. Just like A. Piece of string when you're snapping your fingers. Almost, the fingers. Do. You know what? I was something up there on the former board with me. And so a couple of days later. I. Came Back I I don't know if there's anything in the world is desolate as dismal has deadlocking isn't abandoned oil rig there stands like a skeleton off on a deserted side road and the bare yellow hills, surrounding it and. And it's a dentist thing ever saw. I sat my car for a long time. Looking at everything would just the way we left at I looked into the Florida smashed traveling block was there alongside the rotary table it was A. Little muttering steam from the boiler. That was all. And I heard A. Tinkle of something as it hit the ground alongside. I looked around there wasn't a soul site. But it my seat. As. A Gold Ring that billy grunwald denied found in the corner of rock came from a mile underground and from a million years ago entire. And I heard a little sound. Sound of the kid cry. Naked up there. I heard it again and it came from above my head and. I took my revolver. I. Loaded a carefully. I started up the ladder to the former board. Wasn't anything up there is nothing I could see. A Voice The Voice of. Movement behind the Raca drill pipes and I saw the pipe move I come out of there whoever you are. Shooting. And a standard pipe shivered. I thought what can it be? Can Handle it have heavy piped like Jack Straw's. And there was a crash. The whole standard type fell over and I just got out of the way in time. I was alone on the board. With the thing. I couldn't see it. Platform. Chamberlain of my feet again is something move toward me. I fired two or three shots. And nothing happened. I started backwards I knew what it was following like here at meowing like a cat. My tripped over something I thought it was a big can of red lead that somebody left up there. Without thinking. I. Picked it up and I threw it at the sound and splash. It was. I wish I. Wish. Girl. Hunger in terror. Hands like a human being in a finger. Missing from the left. And the body. I tell you about that. I told you. I'm scared of spiders. I knew where it came from it had come from the politics of the earth come riding up on the drill pipe is where yanked it out of the will? Come to an alien world and was lost. Stood there dripping with red paint blood red from head to foot like some horrible dream. And it put his hand. On my arm. It's with stone. Living Morningstar. And it looked into my eyes. Immune like lost kitten. Twenty years ago. I discovered many things about what used for food but it was death. That it was invisible and couldn't see people when it was invisible. That is sprayed it with mutter paint or. Grease paint makeup. Could see people. And believe me I. Didn't want to see its body I can see that in my nightmares. But it's face. I can't help wanted to see that pathetic. Little girl face. I'm afraid maybe I've fallen. Have this very beautiful. And when it's well made up its. But making it up rubbing grease paint on a stone face that looks at you and smiles and I make sounds like lost kitten yet. I can disguise the and long dresses. She can't hear very well, and when she's hungry I have to stay out of her way. I found out what she likes to eat remember. No No. Sit Still. Sit still do. Said Stellar I'll have to shoot you. I want you to meet my wife. Or Rather. My Wife. Wants to meet you. Mike. The title tonight's quite please story is the thing on the Fergal boy was written and directed by Cooper. I'm featured Greenwich Chapel Dan. Stuttered played building grunwald. Allie was Ted. and. CICELY Roy. was also a member of the cast. As usual music for quiet leases played by Burma's. Sound? Sound by a good friend and helper April. Now for the word about next week here is all right a director Willis Cooper well. I'm reasonably sure that all the characters in tonight's stories were completely fictional at least I for one. Hope so. Next week. The story is called Presto Change. o I'm sure. Until next week at the same time. I am quietly yours. Ernest Chappell. This program was hurt in Canada through the facilities of the Canadian Broadcasting Corporation. This is the mutual broadcasting system. Now let's see you have a peaceful night's sleep after that. Quiet please August eighth nineteen forty eight on classic radio. Theater. A very nice letter from one of our listeners I want to read. How refreshing to hear your comments defending the practice of replaying the old radio shows exactly as they ran originally when you mentioned Amos and Andy I was I at surprised. But quickly realized that our new reality there was bound to be someone who could find some offense. Your words were perfectly chosen when I listened to these programs especially from the days in which I was alive, they are like little time. Machines that can take me back Mentally Childhood Memories. I'll think gee. 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Now I'm really overwhelmed. Stand. Aside, body fall then you agree to come after you give me the. Well fine foods I voted two hundred pounds of buffalo steak. Why do I wash it down with Kirke said was that I don't have an average I, headed specially flown here from eastern Boob. What's for dessert raisin cake. Untouched to offset, the, noxious, effects of. A to rich repast rich I just felt the wacker that word. How prosperous will I be going home in the early? Am Your fee will be one thousand dollars money flowing in from American money I'm your slave. Sketch out the requirements of my assignment. Now I've giving an intimate customer by from certain selected friends masquerade you understand you perhaps read about other famous parties I've given in the past hasn't your parties generally make the front pages and? The police up. Brawls, they always break up in bloody brawls you are unfortunately accurate. You will check with guests and when you sense any of them becoming a to disputatious to hotted up. You were then exercise tranquilizing influence exactly. What do I do there? That's strictly entre nous abloh shrewdly delivered to the stomach say whether damage can be seen I. Don't want a lawsuit against me where do I caught the horizontal guest after I stiffen and I haven't imagined room set aside, you'll find bandages, weddings, all's and restoratives in it. That's my job bounce with kid gloves and Tuxedo you must wear Tuxedo and of course I'm ask you were an honored guest to Oh and one other small. Joe Me Dilettante you said on my side of the street we call them deadbeats and freeloaders They live piling up. IOU. POTTY sideline with them. Sometimes, it's coming somebody's jewels or wallet s you will prevent any theft I don't want that disgrace. Are. We agreed one item remains I'll need ten dollars on count on account of I've got to rent a Tux. I attended the body wearing a straitjacket, the Tuxedo. Mask, new surrounding. That would be the black Bowtie. Democrat like Badger Boris, it promise everybody in costume and mask. And all of them milling around the food and drink and each other. I got up on a balcony for a better view of the Menagerie. Find the balcony with me was a society photographer. Guy In. Striped pants looked like unemployed diplomat he was taking flash pictures. I watched him until I felt a hot breath on my neck is to Craig Ohi. Call Me Mister Peres please I dislike informality you've got a problem. This is the wrong station for you here on the balcony it is. Like you look at Donna. My guess I know they're looking up to me. Mingling with them, you can over here and anticipate and prevent any disorder by forestalling it. Okay. I'll get down on my besides the ladies below resent the standoffish. With them flat to the. Ad Be Witty. Say can you tell me if you fast joke? I got out and mingle I wrestled through a few dances with the lady who had one stomach in front of them and one in reserve. Was costumed as a witch and pink mass you dance beautifully. Miss Do. Not Name. Everybody's incognito until midnight? Alborz, wanted. This step I'm doing lady. One step, my grandfather had no further use for it. So He Gave it to me? Love being gay. Do my potted flowers. Shaft rapier. Slice off too much funny now. Shall we trip it over to the Punch Bowl? How did this intoxication? Yours Straw or barking dogs. Lady. Around how the? Oxygen, tent. You are unusually. Alright you somewhere my head awry. I'll go repair. Then, we meet out on the patio. Twenty twenty I want to do this. Mass together. Go on the patio too old the. oversized aimed I ain't gonNA kick me around for kicks. Ending a living sure came odd. Midnight happened like it usually does. I stick off to look for my witch on the patio. addio sleek flakes total with the law display on it like A. Power. It was a moment that had bloodshot look to it is if it didn't sleep days. It was a small wind that poets and advertising copywriters like to call Zephyr. I found my bewitching with China love seat swing made out of Ryan. She had arms outstretched like a snake about to give you constrictions. Rest of her was in the sprawl. When I reached my worry. She wasn't being amorous. She was asleep as she passed out. Two seconds later I changed my diagnosis. was another condition altogether. Department. There was blood all of our customers like she's been stabbed over the heart by night for dagger. The weapon wasn't around at least I couldn't see it. But then the way the situation stacked up by at is only for the cops. I conducted postmortems with my client Badger Boris checked over guest list. Well guess that the net count bars. Yes. Twelve excluding you Mr. But, then you really a guest or might, of Collar Wilma. Wilma let me see. I don't find her name on your guest list. How come call Wilbur the late car will I mean crashed the party symbolically enough she was thirteen guest. Told me about Carter. Rose foolish and very rich middle aged matron miserably inquest of the LX view chop car was fifty. She affected the mannerisms of twenty. That sounds like a young husband in the picture she was trying to keep up with a studio. Yes. There was a younger husband. A bit player in theatrical whose dream is to play hamlet melancholy Dane was he had an eye? Guest List Yeah. Mark Lamar Casteel was he I've already given you a clue. Hamlet Mellon County Great Dane. How did call mark feel about each other or don't you? Not I would venture that they despise each other may in December Mr Craig the seasons are inimical and antithetical new keep clobbering word. Komar Wilbur here for a little questioning I got home. I gave orders nobody leave. Mock Wilma or any of my guess don't respond to orders as you discovered. Chris, you say mark wasn't invited guest. And who came couple of mock the Queen of Sheba. Yeah I saw the costume. Addition himself with a blue too far. Who is she on this guest list read to Romaine heat wave? Yes. If you must express it so commonly. She was the post to go for the Inter Allied Fruit Pickers Convention last year vote manufacturers proclaimed her cabin cruiser of Nineteen fifty-three. And Bach nominated her to be cream emperors of his heart soul and live A. Trying, awfully hard to supply me with a motive, Boris? Mine and I thought I was being so ingeniously subtle for. Ninth Nineteen fifty-three Barrie Craig confidential investigator on Classic Radio, theatre balance of nature's fruits and vegetables in a capsule changing the world one life at a time I was taking a lot of different vitamins. You pay a lot of money for vitamins, but they don't do anything for you. You don't feel any difference. So I thought I should give this a try and after taking me I'm feeling better and I feel like I have more energy. 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I'm Mick Merle reporting for the liberty beam reminding you spread liberty with a smile. I am great dearborn. You don't have to wait for those weekend plans to fill your craving for Great Barbecue Bob's barbecue is smoke free steely dierks and ready to go for lunch or dinner. Any Day of the week is fresh is friendly in for amazing barbecue it's deere burkes. The USA radio network presents the greatest radio programs of all time. Ladies and gentlemen. The story you're about to hear is to Only. The names have been changed to protect the innocent dragnet. This is classic Radio Theatre. Arthur's thor's. I was a communist. Light so Everybody. Now, here's your host why it talks William Argon starring as Berry Craig confidential investigator. This program originally broadcast August Ninth Nineteen, Fifty, three, the thirteenth guest. William Goggin Stars as Berry Crave confidential investigator. One. Chap- around who never fails to electrify you. Can turn it on and turn it off. Am I referring to the state executioner I wonder. National Broadcasting Company Presents William Gorgan in another transcribed drama mystery and adventure with America's number one detective vary Craig confidential investigator. Craig speaking. A confidential cop enjoy a certain public popularity. He gets habit ashes circulars in the mail not as threatening letters sent it with fuel. And he gets invited to potty. Patsy Shindig is thrown somewhere. Special invitation is Tossed Cup. And know, RSV. The host once you so badly, he comes your way to invite you in person. My would be hosting. This one was Badger Boris. The sort of guy newspaper. Society. Colleagues called a bone revolt in creek. Bones Yvonne Meeting Boris slept all day and stayed up all night. And when the cabinets got then all he had to go to the bay. The Shot moon-faced guy who looked like a Cherub weaned on pasteurized champagne you will have cost be paid handsomely Mr Craig Hey yet for coming to your big blowout. Now I'm really overwhelmed. Stand aside for a body fall. Then you agree to come after you give me the other inducements well, fine foods. I voted two hundred pounds of buffalo steak. Why do I wash it down with Turkey said, what's that I'm GonNa have an average I had especially here from eastern boob what's for Dessert Raisin cake? And previous touch to offset the noxious effective tool rich repast rich I just felt the Wacko that word. How prosperous will I be going home in the early? Am Your fee will be one thousand dollars money flown in from Istanbul Hondo American money I'm your slave so you. Sketch out the requirements of my assignment. Now, I'm giving intimate Costume Party for certain selected friends, masquerade you understand you perhaps read about other famous parties I've given in the past hasn't your parties generally make the front pages and? The police blotter. Brawls they always break up and bloody. You are unfortunately accurate. You will circulate with the guests and when you sense that any of them are becoming a to disputatious to hotted up. You. Then exercise tranquilizing influence exactly. What do I do their strictly entre nous a blow shrewdly delivered to the stomach say whether damage cannot be seen I don't want a lawsuit against me where do I caught the horizontal guest after Stephanie I haven't Emergency Room set aside you'll find bandages, weddings and restoratives head. That's my job bounce with kid gloves and a Tuxedo you must wear Tuxedo, and of course I'm ask you were an honored guest to. One other small. Joe told me Dilettante you said on my side of the street we call them deadbeats and freeloaders. They live piling up I owe us. A party sideline with them sometimes farming somebody's jewels wallet s you will prevent any theft I? Don't want that disgrace. Are we agreed a one item remains only ten dollars on account on account of I've got to rent a talk. I attended the party wearing a straitjacket the Tuxedo mask for the new surrounding. That would be the black Bowtie. Anita crowd like Badger Boris promise everybody in costume and man. All of them milling around the food and drink and each other. I got up on a balcony for a better view of the Menagerie. Find the balcony with me was a society photographer a guy in striped pants looked like an unemployed diplomat he was taking flashpoint picture. I watched him until I felt a hot breath on my neck Mr Craig Ohio both call me Mr Bars please I dislike informality. You've got a problem and this is the wrong station for you here on the balcony it is. Like you look at Donald, my guess I know they're looking up to me. Mingling with them, you can over here and anticipate it prevent any disorder forestalling it. Okay. I'll get down with my besides the ladies below resent the standoff ish meal. With. And Be. Witty Witty. Say. Can you tell me if you fast jokes? I got. I wrestled through a few dances with the lady who had one stomach in front of them and one in reserve. She was costumed as a witch pink mass. Beautifully Studio. no-name bobby everybody's incognito until midnight. Alborz once in. This step I'm doing lady yes. One step my grandfather had no further use for it. So He Gave it to me. I love being gay. Oh. Potted flowers. Shop rape. Slice off too much funny now. Shall we trip it over to the Punch Bowl? This intoxication. Yours Straw or barking dogs. Lady once more around I'll eat an oxygen tent. You are unusually win. All right. You somewhere my head Jaycees Awry I'll go repair. Speed. We need out on the Patio five minutes, twenty twenty, I don't want to do this twenty minute. Midnight. With Fasht together. A. Patio too alone under the moon me oversized aim dying to kick me around for kicks. Ending a living sure came hard. Midnight happened like it usually does. I sneaked off to look for my on the patio. addio sleek flakes total with a floral display on it like a classroom. It was a moment that had bloodshot look to it is if it didn't sleep day. It was a small win that poets advertising copywriters like call Zephyr. I found my bewitching with China love seat swing made out of wrought iron. She had her arms outstretched like a snake. Constrictions. Rest of our was in the sprawl. When I reached my worry cease. She wasn't being amorous. She was asleep as she passed out. Two seconds later I changed my diagnosis. was another condition altogether. defunct. was blood all of our customers like she's been stabbed over heart by night dagga. The weapon wasn't around at least I couldn't see it. But. Then the way the situation stacked up by had is only for the cops. I conducted postmortems with my client Badger Boris checked over guest Lisk. Guest is at the net count bars. Yes. Twelve excluding you. But then you really guest. Victim Caller Wilmer Hana Wilmer me see. I don't fighter her name on your guest list. How come caller Wilma? The lake car will I mean crashed the party symbolically enough she was thirteen guest. told me about caller. Grows. Foolish and very rich middle aged matron miserably inquest of the Alexander. Chop it up Kara fifty she acted the mannerisms of twenty. That sounds like a young husband picture she was trying to keep up with a studio fuel. Was a younger husband. A bit player and theatricals whose dream is to play hamlet a melancholy Dane was he hit an Have the guest list. Yeah Mark Wilmer what Casteel, is he willing? I've already given you a clue. Hamlet the melancholy great Dane. How did call mark feel about each other or don't you? I would venture that they despised. Each Other may in December Mr Craig the seasons are inimical and antithetical Lucci clobbering neigheth word. Komati Wilmer in here for a little questioning I had gone home. I gave orders nobody leave. Mark Wilma or any of my guests don't respond to orders as you were discovered. Prior crash you say mark was an invited guest. And who came coupled with mark the Queen of Sheba Yeah I saw the costume. Addition Harem silk with a Ruby glue far. Oishi on this guest list Romaine. Heat wave yes. If you must express it so commonly. She was the post to go for the Inter Allied Food Pickers Convention last year, boat manufacturers proclaimed his cabin cruiser of Nineteen fifty-three. And mock nominated her to be cream emperors of his heart soul and liver. Awfully, hard to supply me with a motive Boris Ama-. And I thought I was being so ingeniously subtle. Night Nineteen fifty-three Barrie Craig confidential investigator on Classic Radio Theatre. Balance of nature's fruits and vegetables in a capsule changing the world one life at a time I was taking a lot of different vitamins. You A lot of money for vitamins but they don't do anything for you. You don't feel any difference. 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Let start playing through the consequences. I hear. I lost a rich client. Yes you have. Is Jet. But you have a new client now let's you. This. Sounds like your drill Bradley. It'll be accused of it. They'll say I voted my wife money money and how a lot of loopholes in the lab they'll say I did it to be free to marry Rita Romaine. Love with which you was I mean they'll subpoena Gerke a private detective and put him on the witness stand and I've testified late Cora Wilma hired me I'm T I was the check with a once every twenty four hours. See if she was still alive she was scared caller pretended her fear to humiliate I've got other facts on the in my little notebook I read this off to the court. February sixteenth at ten PM, the defendant Mark Wilmer attempted strangling his wife. Cora. Doctrine right treated for throat bruises and show baited me into assaulting a the whole weapon over me. Keep me pullover leaving the but who believe you? That's why your working for me now. Maybe maybe not. You know what you're asking a lot sunny I got a big investment in my license. A lot of lewd falls into my lap. How much do you like money goal? OF LIKE MONEY The. Has Come pretty high for me to be tempted to forget my duty. Will be high. Even, higher than your dreams. Bribe Offer an acceptance. Some husbands had their own tend to way of mourning the debt. I really got an earful. Private ercole wrapped up his deal and scrammed. I walk into the big French windows and introduce myself to mock. WILMA. Release, persecution beginning early early your wife's very cold. She's been dead a hundred years I. Don't like Your Father Entrance, Mr Creek next I'll come down the chimney. Hollow, how long have you been outside those windows? Hello. Own Adjust to Ryan. That's a funny question. Please get your business with I'm dog tired and verging on collapse they sixty four dollar question answer for me. I did not murder car wilmer you had motive to your marriage wasn't to divine. It was woman in your life. We had certain incompatibilities, my wife and I. We reconcile them tonight, we made peace with each other patch things up decided to give ourselves another try but you guarded reader Romaine Boris's Party. That's untrue. I. Went To. Boras with my wife. I Miss Romaine there that's your story. That's the truth. says. Otherwise. Why would bars lie? Sports I will. What made you reconcile with a wife you? Obviously. Would say dislike. Utility. Call it couldn't be discarded decently in an adult way way of insinuating himself taking hold and holding on. I couldn't stand up to the war against her it was too to wearing to moderate. Realized that gave up trying to win my. You gave up reader Romay. I gave up reading but now with your wife convenient the dead. My personal situation isn't improved. It's worth. You mean jail jail. Not Up you're innocent of murder that matter. I'll deny but. I'll be condemned. The outlook is very black. I'm married for money. That's a count against me. I had violent scenes with my wife I loved another woman that will hang me pretty fatalistic godless. I'm a realist hard luck is doc since I can remember. I'm never on top of a life situation. I've lived my life without a laugh without a life moment I'll. Day After. Tomorrow. You were hamlet costume but tonight party. Like The both around the waist with discovered a touch. What about SCABBARD? Is Empty. Whereas the day that goes with it. Dagger. I didn't know that there was. was that how connor was murdered a dagger into the heart? I told you I'd deny it but I'd be condemned anyhow. A missing dagger in Mike Costume it's typical of my luck than you won't try to explain it I can't explain it. Mr Craig icon explain it because I simply don't know. Guy On the edge of becoming delirious leave him for another day comet time. I needed sleep myself. I, got into my cau-. I just pulled away from the curb when I got noticed sleep with missing ingredient in my jet. Try At murder number two, yours truly the victim. I drove around the block. And around again with my headlights. Watching for a car somewhere to come to light startup up and show that glow of its tail light. By car was the only way the rifleman could quit the area. Area was suburban off the main hub. No taxis, a lines, and it was four am somebody has to try and escape by an automobile somewhere in the vicinity. All I had to do was cruise around and watch the hope when I saw it, I saw the tail light. I. Starting up a half block away pulling away curve and I raced Overton I cut across. Lady, motorists took offence to what I've done. My way it was the understatement of the century. I got out to hunt for a rifle. Sorry to be melodramatic of Romaine, isn't it? How. Did you know my name such? Me Was the first thing that popped into my head. I want to look in the back of your car. Beautiful. Don't please overplay the indignation down. How many Texas I'm at work? I don't find it. A rifle used on me a little while ago. Hoping absurd isn't it. I'd apologize only found something even more exciting than A. You`ve I don't a back seat wedged into a cushion a dagger beautiful. Specifically a bloodstained dagger. We kept company the Queen of Sheba me in a roadside diner. We split a gallon of black coffee down the middle while she bought out her sad tale. Explain it to. Mr Creek toward the morning for stiff formality there. What were you doing down the street from the Wilmer Plate? Just outside starting his walk I felt better. To compromise with that our. Your mind. Back to my car, you went to see Mike Well Nevada two hours after the murder of his wife. Saying. Oh, it was terribly foolish. The secret of my feeling from Ahrq spoken. Not, so shameful as it sees. I knew mark curse before did. Or engaged in married wonderful cones. August. Ninth Nineteen fifty-three Buried Craig confidential investigate with conclusion in four minutes here on Classic Radio Theater. 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Now, the conclusion, the Barrie Craig confidential investigator the thirteenth guests from August. Ninth Nineteen, fifty, three. Mark was afraid of our poverty. was surely defeated because of the desperate lack of money you said, our marriage could not succeed. Kept adding post comment WHO'S Back. Along Rich. Possessive. She played on Mark's weakness is insecurity is overvalued with money. She bought him mark never really broke on engage. Just eloped with car. Wherever your recent party hosts, Badger Boris try to throw suspicion on. ME Boris. Fence season. I've laughed at the best turned down his proposals of married but. Doesn't forget. Or even forgive and harbors grudges. Harbor twisted even. Go to the party with Mark Wellman came alone Mike Connor. Barth did line. I know. have. Free. Capital suspects. Three suspects mock warning out of his marriage out with Prophet you get rid of a rival stolen, your daily beloved. And now Badger, Boris to beat you over the head by framing the manual. Love. Alice go down. Under arrest, house custody your own house, this is. The dagger was conveniently. I don't think you could be that careless about a murder weapon. Or could you? Country Has News on my office chair visit a barged in. The private is. Just little tips like he'd been celebrating something. Celebrating his win hall with My. But. I wasn't saying it allowed very craig none other than well colleague. Name I'm a private like you. sumptious. Debatable. I don't get the today. It's a delicate question tomorrow's but skip. What brings you staggering. I'm here to say my pace about mark rumor. So say rumors and okay guys a good upstanding man I want you to know and very rich that is if he beats the electric chair I investigated woman turn them inside out not a spot on them not a blemish boy can look the World Square in the eye by I'm not finished you are. Either out the door throw it you're run search investigators glibly in their own 'cause out. Nuts. Did I come talk to a Nutech? itself up the funding people. Fall This is very Craig speaking. It's noon time to rise and shine. Those party photographs I saw being taken last night, I want them. Well, a lot of reasons. One of them is I. Want to see if mark. WILMA war dagger in Scabbard on, his costume. Disappoint you. mean. I'm again. Distressing. Hardly with the sentimental memorial oranges. I dislike preserving dismal raise so I destroyed the big. Finally. Only phony only is a nine dollar. Bill, goodbye. Stopped into see. Badger Boris. Personally without appointment you have no business molesting. Home is your castle. Pictures of the negatives I want them bars i. told you I destroyed them. Yeah. You're told me the memory of last night is acid in your soul for wipers it Hugh Live got a genius for of Asia now come across. I'll have you thrown out of here. We'll hit the sidewalk together. We ride downtown Menam so close because we're handcuffed together. Measure your risk beside. You dare handcuff me in a rescue suspicion murder. Show going to look elegant penned up with. Rabbo. Well. You Argue resourcefully you've uncovered by one weeks. I am allergic to orders I could never tolerate the week of your prison rabble. The negatives find them in that cabinet there about draw them and go I'll take them go after you write a check for one thousand dollars my agreed fee or last night's Rubab. Pain host. Had the negative develop eight roles. I had them developed with a crash at my hunch on film would pay off. I gotTA. Look at the developed pictures I went travelling down title apart grow office with a shingle read the Greco Agency. Myself in but a skeleton key wait for good. I wanted to surprise Girka with a bang. Cole. Road at the stroke of three. Head showed then I came down on the talk over. When it came to enough to stand up at me, groggy we got down to cases is led me Craig Way. Precautions to take the fight out of you I checked into your background of it. What you did before you became a black mailing shops you champ boxer up for the light heavyweight title. I didn't relish coming to blows with you. I want my nose looking exactly like it looks once you play an arrest. Arresting you blackmail and murder set your nut I. Develop Rolls of film taking a forest is costume party. Mark. Wilma never carried a dagger in this cabin. Pictures covering the whole evening. No Dagga ever and mark wellness costume. So what? Does this guest list total twelve so far said I was faking. It was actually thirteen officially. He wanted me to think Carl Wilma crashed the party and the Wilma came with Rita all over my head creek getting up our crackdown. I've got pictures showing that there was even more than thirteen guest that's excluding me. On one picture I count fourteen fourteen. The fourteenth was the murderer or its newest, but he tried to cover it up. Not that he wanted to spare you ago. Because, he preferred saint-marc Wilma take the rap. He hoped to frame mark. How you're trying to talk. Gray. Kind of guy you. Try me out. I didn't figure. It'd be an angel. I didn't see any wings. Fifty. We'll split a fortune. If I shut up about your mega in your own land corwin. Like mail her widowed husband Yeah Yeah that was a play. Mark was a freak kitchen. Forget Court Creek nobody cried when she died, it comes out to find forever. Markham Dr Rita. They get married. They got though. So. It's still leads a full. Boris. Will Pin it on Boris. We'll switch it around forests without the frame of guy it mark woman. Like you planted the dagger and readers girl I liked it that the confused things take some of the heat off mark and the rifle shot at me well, at the scale your weight only thing. and. On Boris. Naked on the floor. Okay. Craig they'll pick your brains too hard. The Gray matter you've got girl concentrate on how you can beat the electric chair. It's like that secondly. Know did you turn me in? That's why? I could say for the honor of the profession colleague. But the would be Corny wasn't it? Actually. Broadcasting Company is brought to you Barry Craig's confidential investigators starring William Garden. Featured in the role of Rita was Jane Webb. Don Pardo speaking. August Ninth Nineteen fifty-three Berry Craig confidential investigator on classic. Radio Theater. This is good news maybe exactly when you need it to right now Meta share is waving their new member fees. This could save you money on top of all that you'll save each month by becoming a member, of Meta, share. So many people are looking for healthcare solution right now, seeing the cost of Cobra plans, for instance, and medishare's the affordable alternative to health insurance. 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Well, you just take it easier getting online though you they're very arty to the leading citizens in Pine Ridge locked up in jail the justice of the Peace Now they ain't no use to get yourself so wild and tore up over it that blame that been withers if he don't come down here and let us out I'm GonNa tear them bars right out of them lenders. Would but personally I don't think he can do it I would if I could what world did they WANNA make them Boris a big in the first place for wondering what it was expected to have locked up in new was wanted insisted only don't you know taking up a donate to build a new jail you said you wouldn't go in on it. Let's build good style and that's writing must've been clean out of my head insist on something like that. Look at them things I never seen such bars. Well, of course, you never know what you'll be locked up in here yourself sometime when you don't wouldn't be now we had a constable around here that had anything. Dick Huddleston said he'd talk to Ben but I reckon never done good. Now he'd be doing good though he got the top to him where they got him to let us out or not you make bane withers hear anything you say you're doing good I'll say he came lock us up in here we ain't done nothing well, maybe not long but we're here been Harrison Fried here but Gordon to the statues he can't hold us in jail this way some charges against. What we ought to do is get outta rid of Habeas Corpus. EAT OUT A lot. To matter with you. Don't you know nothing about all? But I don't know nothing about. What that means is when you want to get out of jail, you have to have writ road. What happened to the carpet is when you have a writ road, you gotTa Corpus. It's gotTa Hebrews in front of look don't try to explain it to them if it will get us out of jail let's get one i. don't care what has gotten in front of. Troubling nobody here in town to get it out of me now. Get it out to make one out. I. Would need it never mind maybe we better just forget that. Hey, what's far his altogether is anything else we could do I don't know all I know is I won't Outta here on top Oletta I'm hungry. Yeah me too. That's bothering me more than being in jail about to starve to death I'd almost rather starving eat bins cooking. Amorous anymore, them canned goods over there. No I look volatile I the last of them sardines for breakfast I mean fine had to do starting for breakfast. Tried that old meal at Ben wrestled up that's why I switched. I don't know what I would give her some hot food. Reagan Cedric Forgot to go by Elisabeth to cook up some Beatles and bring them over here i. told you before he left she wouldn't do it long. You hear what she said last night she ain't GonNa turn a hand to help us till. We add to what we did to be locked up this away where we can't admit to nothing we did nothing. Well, she thinks we have been with wouldn't have US locked up in jail here. Disturbing warn you gotTa have never seen nothing like in my whole life she's awful set in our ways. Oh Sandra gets back. We sent him down to Luke's flared restaurant and get some de Luca credit. NEW TROUBLE IS EDRICH clean over to that Gypsy camp to get that horse, you take him six hours to get back with him. Maybe get him over here toll. Take Long. He can ride him back rioting. Eight seaman horse he's the four you gain. Hard Holy. He must be in bad shape. Again a tree when I frame just weighed, you seem I think it's the best deal we've made yet least now you swap for something. Or we had them preserve. You got on that list here on a good way to get you out of them now. Faces. Gets Hungry and one day on ever know you Dan for three days? Wait wait wait dog adair come the far coming right out the window. Oregon Horses I. Couldn't get him home. I'm more likely to week to walk this for. More likely just about von happening. Rick whereabouts is a horse. He's over there at your place turning losing the law. Did. You have any trouble getting home gnome not particular the saddle horse I ever seen Didgeridoo she'll asset all. Yes. He's a dandy ship. Watch your love to have him from a sale. I guess Gypsies was glad to get you out having more than years all packed up ready to go out there and they pull out on just as quick as I'd taken the horse well news talking about being Sharia Horse Mr Loma, told he was a good and I don't know nothing about horses standing. Did. You tell avenues woman to cook up some Beatles and Wrangham over here. Here's Walmart told her but she said to tell Mr Aber. She weren't going to feed him or help him get out here. Announced he confesses to her what you fellers done see their Lama I told you try to get me to tell her what you is in here for, but I couldn't I never even Oedema Sale. Trauma you are nobody else don't know blame band withered anyway I don't blame him grand peppers wanted to throw this in here. Van Wanted Deputize GRANDPA and he's the one that's keeping us in jail here to. Argue about that after we get something to eat, I'll tell you what's Edrich you go over Luke Spears lunchroom and tell him to cook up everything. He's got on the plane and bring it over an hurry up Sandra Mr. Luke's closed up close just mommy's only Vaca- oh, for goodness fine. Hattie. Do. Reagan we could get your mom to cup something for his Sandra. Cook drug issues over and Odin visiting her sister aunt? Gracie. Just looks like they're bound and determined for. US. Star today and it looks like Sardines again. Here's Centric, take my keys and go down to the store and get some lunch and hurry up Sandri. What do you want me to get now? Anything you can find down here it looks good and get a move on yourself writing old you can carry your former Beck. Get them. That'll be better nothing I reckon. We're all GONNA look another starting in the face or not. Don't you Reagan you could talk Elisabeth into cooking something for Avenue I. Need Some hot fatal. No she said she wouldn't turn a hand till. We admit to what we've been told her whenever done nothing she just won't Raven. Did you tell the grand theft throat his in here on suspicion thousand or a hundred times but she don't think of the word of truth she bound and determined we've did something terrible and she ain't going to. Be Happy. Until she hears me say so looks to me like we're going to have to admit to something to keep them to do get into some videos to US Congress I. AM right now I'll admit to anything the forgery. Good. No, Elisabeth never believe that I have a hard enough time trying to sign home name let alone somebody else's that's right we have to think of something you can do that's on a limited a little We'll get some sample like stealing maybe if you got a pencil. I don't think nobody will ever believe look little I don't mean that I mean I just want you to write a note to lesbian admitting to this crime whatever it is. Joan away we can tell her been won't let us use the telephone. What am I saying? started out with Dear Elizabeth. D., E. R. Deer, how do you spell out play the best you know by now? Then put on we hereby confessed to. D, like train robin on I, don't know why don't out of well I ain't none of it better megabank rob and she's Being fast enough to catch a train like bank robbing seemed a little more dignified. How did we get? Why don't how does ten thousand Strike Yeah That happened to that will give us each marine actual going to get it sally. Well, Dan Hardaway going all trump oh yeah. That's right. And put down please then there's something the fried chicken hot biscuits and gravy and my pie. Hurry up and finish here comes to being maybe we'll get him to take over the. How do be in? How's everything going on? This lines like. LA COOKING UP SPECIAL OATMEAL with raisins and would you follows each likable for just drive now then well, here it is being I wonder if he'd run this note over to my warmer as quick as you can. It'd be very happy to oblige governor all delivered as quick as I got the oatmeal served or wait a minute. I forgot when I came back here, the tone you follows I've been revealing the charges against our worst. You'd hurry up and get this. No today's events is pretty important to keep us starving today. Well, all eight quad is not say there is personal sort of personal by argues, hope she can read that handwriting years she can make it out sloppy awfully legible. Then don't read that they're Lissouba's we hereby confidant I told you not to read his Personal Bank Robin. For Ten thousand dollars. Well, my stars alive look. It's lucky I found out about this. Here, I was just coming back to tell you. I. Was GonNa Release You because there's no real charge against you are but now bank robbing. 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Nineteen fifty five entitled the Big Mrs. Ladies and gentlemen the story or about to hear is true. The names have changed or protect the innocent. Already detective sergeant you're assigned a robbery detail. You got a telephone call from a woman who wants to see you. She says, it's about her husband. He's going to hold up. Your job check it out. Dragnet the documentary drama of an actual crime. For the next thirty minutes in cooperation with Los Angeles Police Department. You will travel step by step on the side of the law through an actual case transcribed from official police files. From beginning to end from crime, the punishment dragnet is the story of your police force in action. It was Wednesday may eighteenth was cool Los Angeles we're working the day watch Robbie detail. My partner's Frank Smith, the bosses TV detectives, Thad. Brown weddings Friday. Into the office and it was seven forty nine am when I got to room twenty, seven, eight robbery. Well Well what? Good Morning Frank. Oh. What's eating you? Mad about something. I'd be mad about. She didn't say good morning. I'm just not going over there anymore. That's over where to Talbot, who? Lived down the street tells me estate. Bought our, house from. Got To be friends his wife and fair friends I never cared for him much myself who Happen. Between you and him fight. I don't fight with people Joe, you know that that's right. I just found him up all just found him up. Kind of a guy really is that right? Yeah. They use signals. Signals him and his wife can you imagine that they use them? What kind of signals different ones for different words? What do you mean why they play rates? Oh, I see. Well, that's too bad. Had US over there place last night some other couples to eight or ten of US and all yeah ten, five, hundred except. For. The straight game you've played at haven't you You know when I was ten years old to play. When I look buddy, it's no kids game not the way they play was that right? You'll be stuffed act out titles and quotations never even heard half of them. On the top it off they got signals. Now little word big work person's name letters the alphabet and they got signals for all of them. You can spell out what's the point of the game Beach pretty bad to me. Last night in the game you lost it hasn't got anything to do with. John Lewis. WHO WINS OR LOSES? It's the principle of all of this signals. Yeah I gotTA. Use Them. Robbery Friday. Yes ma'am. Well I don't know what seems to be the trouble. I see. Yes I guess we could. Where is that? Are they open this early. All right. Yes ma'am we'll. Be there. By. Lady, wants to talk to a special meeting to the bar on Melrose once it all about her husband. Yeah. He bought a gun. Franken I drove over to small bar on the corner of Melrose and eighth. It was eight, twenty three am when we got there. Monitor. The. Lie Opener just coffee about you. I'll have a cup to place now quite isn't ready yet I just finished on. Let's all right. We're no hurry as a cafe right around the corner they're open. Well. WE'LL WAIT Suits yourself I guess you guys aren't like me house at when I want my morning coffee I wanted right now Wake until after I've had a couple of cups. Drive. We take a booth. Sure. I all cleaned up. I haven't had time to get to the others yet. All right. Got Here I to give you a name. Your name? No she didn't WanNa talk over the phone. John. Hi Sally. Shop. Scotch. Back. Okay. Go ahead mister take a good look. I was waiting for somebody I. Guess I made a mistake. Yeah he sure did go. Sorry. Later on my band, but not at eight thirty am. All the time. y'All can't even have a more than pick me up without some guys starting to move in on. Looking at tonight. Jab Yeah sure. He's about ready. All right. Thank you on sugar. No black about you. Don't pay no attention to sally. Yeah, it must have got. The today. Usually, she's real friendly and automated. Just, don't take it personal That's all right. Forget it. Too Bad you guys came as early toward evening we get a lot of action here. We're meeting somebody. Okay. Just tell that's all. Boy That's all right. Bert my tongue. When it's due. Dot Get bombed Mike speaking. ooh. Oh Yeah. Yeah okay. Sure. You guys got an Johnson like Friday. That's right. You're being stood up she said to tell you. A. Franken I left the Tomcat Bar and we went back to the office ten seventeen, an informant called with a tip about a grocery store holdup that had taken place the previous Monday. We interrogated a possible suspect but his alibi checked out. The next day Thursday may eighteenth nine, forty, three am. Probably spend. John. Okay. Friday yeah. Yeah I remember. While we were there. Why don't you give me your name this time. Now from sorry, we'll have to have your name. FLINT IF I N T. Right. Now, Look Miss Linda this Kinda get. All, right. If you're sure this time. Right. All. Right. Bye. The woman again women who called yesterday morning Oh yeah. You want now same thing meet us at the bar she's on the level I don't know it sounds like at this time why didn't show up yesterday then says she tried she just couldn't why not said something about loving your husband when the chips were down couldn't bring herself to tournament to us amateur well, not so she has to she can't wait any longer why says it might be too late Ten Sixteen. Am Franken. I left the office and drove out to the bar when we got there there was only one customer in the place of small dark haired woman sitting in the corner. Booth. You A day. Off Again Yeah. Okay. Well, you want. Now we'll let you know. That women over there in the corner. Yeah. You know who she is. I don't think she'd been in before Brian Thank you. Say That reminds me. Sally around last night. Asked about you. GotTa Change Heart She's pretty good kid. Yeah. This went. Missing. Names. Friday's partner Frank. Smith. Can we sit down then? You guys western coffee over there. Yeah. That'll be fine about the lady. Would you like something then? I'd like a drink or. A needed would be. I don't Care Bourbon Guess Bourbon and Ginger. Do you want suburban ginger. Ale Does he know? bartended. Women told them. Anybody finds out I talked to have rod ever finds out. I guess that just about washes up Roger Husbands run here Rodney Flint. Well is that his name? Not Not as real name what is it? I don't offer doing the right thing I just don't know. He'd never understand each house double crossing him maybe. I am maybe. Two coffees and Bourbon, and Ginger. Even. There you go. Okay. Thank you. For years I've been thinking about it living with it. For years have been trying to make up my mind whether I should go to the police or not. But things seem to be working out. He was doing so well, making good money he's changed to honesty has. Sports you give us the whole story. You married charging. How about you? Yeah, man. Tell me Mr and you told me the truth was that supports your wife coach in trouble. Suppose she squealed on. What would you think? I guess it would depend on why she did it. I've got reason. Best reason in the world. I'm in love with. This man. I wasn't that just walkout if I didn't love him I to walk out years ago. When you call us yesterday, you said your husband bought a gun. That's right. You know what he wants when. Now. For sure. You got a pretty good idea him. You're never done any time when. What for? He stole a car or anything else. Robbery supermarket back East. Michigan Newsletter in Detroit. Time that he do seven years to come out. I don't know what you mean. Sorry. Afterwards was on parole but the EPA report to a parole officer. For All Long It was supposed to be ten years. When they get out of prison. What did you come to California? But a year later. The permission to leave the state of Michigan. What made him leave them Just came home one day said he couldn't take it any longer. Says Gone L. A. and that it was up to me to the right came with him or not enough he's wanted for anything else beside violation of parole. I don't think so. You know you still haven't told us his real name phrasing. Ralph raising. It's Mrs Frasier. What about the gun? Like I said everything was going along pretty well, he's got a good job and he's had three or four raises. Work Refinery Pacific Crest Oil Company. He likes work like him but. The longer we live out here. The better things are that just makes him more scared. Scared. That somebody will find out who he really isn't. He'll have to go back to prison. If. He just sees a copy goes all the pieces he share that finally caught up with him just a traffic cop even. It gets worse all the time. Jumpy and nervous and. Scared that's the only word for it. He's been ringing a lot more to nearly every night. Then just last week, he ran into a guy that used to be a friend of his wreck in Detroit. Install all about him. He's been in prison. And rods. Afraid. Ralph. Call Them Rod. So long keep forgetting business real nature. Anyway. He's he's afraid of this guy will say something to somebody that will all come out it's just driving him crazy. So he bought a gun. Why He was pretty drunk night for last. That's when he brought it home. Mumbles something. If he was going to go back to prison, anyway might as well make it worth their while. Maybe planning another robbery I don't know. I don't really think he would. But with all this drink in advance Adine said well. I don't know what he might do. Whereas a gun nominee phrasing home. He hit in a stove in the PAN under the broiler. At. least that's where we put it last night after. After one. Well. He C- he was carrying on doing a lot of talking and he was holding a gun at the same time waving it around. Telling me how easy it'd be go out and rob somebody said that were he could get enough money for us to leave the country and go to Mexico maybe where they'd never find this. Right in the middle of everything pistol went off. He was just an accident he wasn't pointing at anything. The bullet only went into the ceiling. I'm sure didn't mean to pull the trigger. But. When he heard the shot, he acted like he was going out of his mind he was sure the neighbors had heard it tune that they'd report it to the police would do them. The bullet out of the ceiling got rid of it. After that he just waited. BRUCIE's chain doesn't. The really isn't a criminal anymore. You mean that well, he didn't run away you. Stay there all night long, whiten. And he didn't keep the gun he put it in the oven. He didn't have it on him so they wouldn't have been any trouble even if the police did come. She. Kept praying that they would. Over and over I prayed you come. Find out who he is. He's got to go back to president finish out his sentence. Sure of that now. If he does Mattis Dunho Harare happened to him. What about you? Ms Razi? While, he's in prison what will you do? I can work did before managing that's Razzie. What time it hasn't come home from work. Later, and later since he started drinking. Nine o'clock maybe ten he's never ever separate anymore. Is it someplace else you can go this evening over to a neighbor's maybe. I suppose so. Well, it might be better if you weren't there when we picked him up, but you can't I mean. Not. So soon, not deny. Does it have been nine. And No, it was me. It had something to do with it. He's bound to know keep you out of if we can. What are you going to tell him? What kind would excuse for us? Let's see what kind he has. August Ninth Nineteen fifty-five Dragnet on Classic Radio Theater. This is good news maybe exactly when you need it to right now Meta share is waving their new member fees. 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We contacted the Pacific crest oil refinery and without stating that we were from the police department. We learned that a man named Rodney flooded been employed there for the last three years. They said he was a steady dependable worker. Six thirty two PM we drove out to the address Mrs Fraser had given us. There was a modest one story home just off Santa Monica Boulevard. We parked across the street and waited for Frasier to return from work. Seven zero, five pm we saw Mrs. Razi going to a neighbor's home three doors. West. Franken I continue to wait. Eight forty six PM. Eastern into the driveway. Let's give them a minute. Let them get inside? Miller lights are mellow. Go from there. See the balance. Over there. GonNa. Talk to you for a minute. What about where police officers? Police. This is Frank Smith my name's Friday. I send for no cops join if we come in or you want just WanNa talk to you that's all. Talking out here easy if we were inside. I ain't got all night. Neither of we we'll take very long. Cake. Stand. Standstill. What is all is he's clean John. What's your name? Come on. Give us your name. First name to Rod. Rodney alone yeah. You live alone. Such left me notes that she's going over the neighbors babysit for. Your home last night I was home all night from about ten o'clock on. Did you hear a gun go on? A gun was here one go off. Of course not well somebody didn't they reported. It said it sounded like it came from his house last night she said that's right Flynn. Police Force. You cops that'd be real. Prodi. So they're all you gotta do checkups on some characters been hearing things. There wasn't any shot I didn't hear racy. kind of late to be asking we just got around to it the whole day. Or you need a what he's supposed to do make an appointment ahead of time. I assure about this online combat what you didn't hear any gunfire I didn't him nothing this a lot of traffic Donald Boulevard maybe a car was backfire me why. Own A gun. 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We'd finished with the front part of the home went into the kitchen. The suspect followed us. Okay. If I fixed myself a drink while you're missing the join it, it's up to you. You guys want one but blast you nothing. What about you know? You don't. Drink. Not, hurting my feelings. I'll check the service sports. You know my wife's going to raise Cain when she's guys of those Obama's gaffe was mcgann flooded. Yeah. Sure will not come on how `bout winding it up just a couple of minutes you boys really believe in wasting time. Don't what are they do? Pay You by the Hour There's nothing out there. Takes care of it. Come on I'll be glad to show you to the defined our way. This minute. You checked the still. Still. No I thought you did. All right now what we forgot something. Yeah. It looks like he wants review. You think I'm cooking a gun. That's okay Joe Right. Pan Back. They watch it there. Wait, a minute Clinton you're not going anywhere but I don't know what this is all about. I never saw that gun for my whole life. Yeah. I don't even know how gut? Well, let's talk about a downtown come on wait a minute. Now you can't hold me and like this, what am I done you've got to have a charge I I know the law you got to charge me with something you won't find any we found again. Drove the suspect City Hall Princeton booked him in on suspicion of robbery eleven six pm we brought him into the squad room for questioning. Sit Down with their. Kind of frame is. Going on but let me in on it. I would erupt forget about our robbery charges. We made a mistake now let's what I've been telling. We had to check the gun. We had to be sure. I said I know. Okay no hard feelings on phrase what you've heard me sit down. Maybe, we're wrong about the robbery charges, but we came up with something else I want from Michigan Violation of parole. About phrasing. Well Do WanNa know you've got it all story. Why did you leave Michigan alleged parole? What differences may clothes you tell us about it? I didn't have no choice. I used to play around with some pretty rough boys I got other joint they're still in Detroit. Looked me up. I think I'm Kinda new but? I wanted to go straight dad different ideas who are. So we came out here. Dorothy me. She's my wife Gracie. You can check on me. I've been clean ever since asked the company talked to anybody about me to tell you clean. Going to help back in Michigan last, not up to us. Sure. I thought that was why they sent you to jail so you'd learned some. So when you come out, you won't do it again. That's part of it. I learned what good does it do? Me Maybe didn't learn enough. There's a law against the next convic- having a gun. Are you going to stick with to? That's not up to us either. I see Garment Edmund that gun. You'd never finally ready to take a little longer. That's. Sure. That's what. I don't know why it went off the other night I thought the safety was on just my luck. I never had a decent break in my whole life not one who. was. Anymore you guys want. Guess not now anyway. So commonly, they'll. We'll fix. When she's going to say. Look. I guess you stick binding she always has. The rotten breaks no matter what. She'll stick. Where you must have had one good break when you married her. The Star, you've just heard is true. The names were changed to protect the innocent on. Thursday may twenty fifth the meeting was held in the district, Attorney's office in and for the county of Los. Angeles State of California in the interest of justice and because of the suspects good behavior record in Los Angeles. It was decided not to press charges against him for possessing a gun. Ralph Putnam Crazy alias Rodney Flint was turned over to Michigan authorities to serve out his previous sentence. He has since been released and has returned to his Palmer employment in Los. Angeles. You have just heard dragnet a series of authentic cases from official files. 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Running out of the nightclub headaches that everything's fine I like to speak to you though. I'm afraid it's important. Are you, thinking of arresting me Mr Dollar Police Kill Your Act like one answering my phone sneaking into my room while I'm gone to even the score. Then you had a quick look through mine earlier in the day Mr, what were you looking for Ms Coal Roy and. Every Weekday Night Bob Bailey transcribed adventures of the man with action packed expense account America's fabulous freelance insurance investigator truly Johnny Dollar. From special investigator DOT location Caracas Venezuela. To the whole office, Worldwide Mutual Insurance Company Hartford Connecticut a silent the Alder Matter. Expense account continued. Racking my own room after saying good night to a Sullen Doris Cole, I didn't feel slightest qualms about having invaded. For it. Why should I? The people in the older house didn't seem too concerned with the truth. And fact a whole case seemed to be a question of why are saying nothing Consider Billy older shot at indicating he had a good reason to beneficiaries five times in a month. And still he was the original say nothing fellow. Keep. Me Alive was all I could get out of him. His wife would line is daughter had lied Doris Cole. An old friend of the family had just proved to be a walking. The passport at Rome header photograph. All right. But it said she was Dora Johnson. An unsigned letter in the same drawer had stated simply that the Caribbean starwood Dr Morrow. I got into bed and a nod thought headline if the Caribbean Star didn't talk. With the Steamship Company of joined the Lions Club too. Expense Account Adam seven tenths cents one newspaper. But on the era docs early next morning my Spanish is pretty nothing but I could read the important thing that the Caribbean Star was due at noon. Time to kill I drove into builders office in Caracas he hit the when I told him about Dora's coast passport. Semi. Glad. I'd mentioned nothing about the letter. How dare you search the room of a guest in my house? How dare you returning? It could've seen what mine was searched thoroughly that's still has many reason for your behavior. All One way ethics Mr I've told you repeatedly dollar there's only one reason I want you I know keep you alive but how would handcuffs on? I suppose I told you to find some oil then refused to let you digging holes in the ground. You'd begin to smell a rat to you talking about just about everything in. I have a very busy pool is Dora Janssen Mr Alderman and why does she call ourselves Doris? Cole. You're making too much of nothing dollar. It isn't a crime use. Another name that depends on the reason doesn't it? she's. No friend isn't dollar. Aren't. Tired of that tune for a man who's afraid for his life. You've got more old friends than anyone avenue. Also I have noticed anything particularly friendly between she's she's not a well woman dollar. I don't want you bother me bothering anyone exactly even the one who fired that shot at you. So I can't help getting an impression that you have a pretty good idea who it might have been. I told you I was busy. Yeah. But it's what you haven't told me I keep thinking about. Dollar. Did. You find anything else in that room beside the passport why Mr Rounder what's happened a sense of ethics? Still, plenty of time before the Caribbean starwood be. Builders reaction dictated my next move. Cable Office not yeah. Suddenly seemed like a very important place to visit. House in Caracas and I needed one that had something to say. Okay My. Take this season you're. Like these to go don't spare the horses. Cable Rush I see. Victor Kelly world. No my allows handwriting. Victor Kelly worldwide mutual. Hartford Connecticut USA see. Want All Possible Information Dora Jansen Aka Doris Cole US passport one, nine, six, seven, nine, four, three, Dash, one, one signed dollar and your address for the answer I'll pick it up here education lady please nursing. Don't disband the horses. Still early when I reached the waterfront where the Caribbean star which. Wasn't much point in watching the incoming passengers. I didn't even know who I was looking for. So I found a spot of the pyramids where I could concentrate on those meeting the. Here, I made a grudging, Concession Wall Movie Detectives Seven Ten cents the newspaper to Hide Behind You know some it works fine. Dora's cold or according to that passport door. Jensen was nervous excited and it was no trouble to stay close behind her as she passenger a short nondescript man in his late fifties. On jump into a cab and away from the pair, there were closely followed by a man clutching unread newspaper me. Trip was a short one about six or seven blocks away the cabin frontal, a cheap hotel waterfall. I circle about once got rid of my cab and wandered into the dismal lobby, the fence sleepy clerk session one I. See. You look for something. That gentleman who just came in I I had an appointment with him. Now Don it I I must have left the. Slip of paper with his name on my whole talent and find it. All the gentleman that just went up to room Rome. Yeah. You want to say number now. When you think I have been to a more. You can save a lot of embarrassments. You've got it right there on the register she might have I have a lucky. Mine. Love friend. When was the last time? You GOT ANYTHING FOR FREE FRIEND Widens I. So I was trying not to offend you hear. Me See. You play blackjack senior how you call the. Twenty one. Why? Like they say kidney me again. You're rubbing. You want to do business or. Nine ten bucks, Mike Schmear. Schmoozer just playing graft. Pointed an oversized forefinger at a name on alleged lost interest in me when back the? Either singer at said roommates I went up the stairs. A few seconds later I moved as quiet as I could down the grammy second floor hallway stopped at the door number eight. At first I had nothing. Then after a long minute, the voices began angrily as resuming an old argument. Me handed. Him Suppose. Nothing I listen to me I know what I'm doing. Five minutes later, I was back in the cable office getting a second message off Victorian Hybrid. It was a request for anything could possibly dig up on Arthur singer. I didn't hope for too much because it would probably turn out to be and I, but it was an angle I couldn't afford to overlook. You're not bad for answer. So. Just once you get this. Same Fella and same way. No spending horses. Thanks. Now the. Senior I want to ask you something. You business partner did I do something to displease him? He seems so angry. Seem. So what really was so nice at first, but after he read. Everything. First of all I have no business partner Oh. Make terrible mistake. Just tell me what happened with this man he come in less than a minute. You leave was very nice. So he was your business partner that he just leave you. You were worried because you forgot whether you say something in the message your sin then you ask him to check it for your he seemed to know what he was. Then That is when he got so angry, he just down and leave what did he looks like. A little less Tallin, you have gray hair glasses, glasses. Seizing are. You. I'm beginning to wonder anyone really does I am so sorry for my mistakes all forget. It wasn't your phone just send that second message. About the answers, Senator Me William, Aldous House as soon as you get him. Maybe we read them together. Eliana was my new business. Older, the original close mouth. But it looks like there was nothing wrong with his brain reside. And suddenly I didn't mind that he'd read my message to vic killing because a frightened man usually reacts at the extreme ends of the scale. He'd been at the let's do nothing and. Maybe now, go the other way. Was One more step. I make a lot of front so I made it. My credentials presented at the steamship officers. Got Me a look at the passenger list of the carrying star. The name Arthur singer wasn't on. I. Started down the Small Front Street where my car was parked. My mind was full of billy older and the pieces of this crazy puzzle tugging way pulling another. Planet sense out of it somehow use some sort of slide rule where logic it'd be a solid base no matter how I twisted and I knew one thing it just wouldn't work. I didn't have enough yet to making work. I was just reaching for the door handle when I saw his reflection in the car window the man who sneaked up behind me blackjack raised high in the air. The blackjack was just insurance go tough enough without. I finally worked into the side of the car furniture, the half and the car door workers mind like. Five seconds later came up and five minutes later I sat in the office of have haven guessed chief of police. You'll feel. Yeah? Sure. What did you get out of that blackjack artists? Yes. What I expected still won't say who hired him. Understand this kind of fellow I do what? I mean he's. Seen again you you know she put to sea for extra to Bolivar maybe three, he would black Jackie's mother. He claims he does not know who hired him that he is to get his money in a letter. When I was spat gay I? Say He's lying of course but he will stick to the story because he knows you got the same sentence whether he does he does not achieve Ford won't usually cover for somebody else these gone does Amigo otherwise, he would never be hired again i. I'd give a line for a few minutes alone with them heavy certified, but I love my job. Just wishful thinking that hard to understand. Well. leaving, not getting anywhere sitting here. A assure you haven't got business somewhere else I've got off. We begin to talk to that dog. You know I got A. Guy. Say if you ask him on Monday, what is that? They must have? Tuesday. You could beat him to death was still set disease the weather thing. FAA FAVOR IF I. Suppose I don't prefer charges. What's your take on him when he leaves John Look I know it's a million against doing a rough up without the money in hand. But if he hasn't collected on my ego, like you say million to what I know, I'm grabbing at straws just in case if a come on Not, gate. Light. Tanks. And where do you go to the cable office? Yeah and if a man and Harvard has nothing to say, I've got a permanent seat behind the eight ball. Here's our star to tell you about the final episode of this week story tomorrow a puzzle fits itself together. You've gotTa Snoop Prion Juggle a pieces. And sometimes, people get killed headway. 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Video. Why is Brian, in the attic again well, you've. got a lot to talk about here on this. Beautiful weekend. SMACKDOWN I. Guess The beautiful weekend is over we talked about smackdown, but we can talk about this smackdown show here tonight and the new Japan we got new. GP Never. Open. Wait six men take team champions. Ratings for the smackdown. And a lot of other topics as well. The smackdown show is having a great day. Then I realized, we got to talk about smackdown the shows. Awful. Television show I will admit that I was I was incorrect yesterday I said there were four cues in five matches as actually wrong. One of those matches that I? That I thought was a d q finish actually was a match where there should have been a D. Cube but they didn't call it it. So we actually ended up getting a pin but one. 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Wrestling Observer. REVEAL WRESTLING OBSERVER DOT COM. Here to talk about all the news from the weekend including. This smackdown show. godawful program smackdown. Did you watch the show? Mike? Unfortunately I did yes. That someone knows something. Here's a here's a quick look. Everybody is always myself and filthy Tom Lawlor. Reviewing smackdown on the filthy for daily show on Monday Monday afternoon, and by the way for those of you wondering the new schedule will be Mondays with myself and filthy. Tom Reviewing, not only smackdown butts news Japan's new one hour Friday night show and Jay WWL DOT COM, and JP w strong. It's now a week airs on Friday night. So what better show to review alongside smack down? then. New. Japan. We're going to review smackdown. What are the worst wrestling shows of all time? And New Japan. I think I cannot wait for Mondays man was actually a good thing you get to you have to suffer and you have all the pain of watching smackdown but then you get to wash all that away get to yet to clear all that away with with new Japan pro wrestling you should be or should be happy about this. Maybe we maybe we review the. Maybe review the smackdown show first, and then we review new Japan afterwards. But that's what I'm saying, why would you WanNa do the other or the other way around Japan I I'm sorry new. Japan I ended smackdown afterwards. So smack that looks like an even worse television show if that's even possible, I don't think that's possible. But I don't want to dare them at this point. So we had shameless verses, Matt. Riddle, which in a disqualification when shortage e ran in. Shortage G turned last week. He comes back here. He gets eaten up by Matt Riddle, and then he gets beaten up by shameless. Now, Dave explained to me that he believes that shameless is turned baby face. At no point during the show. Did I think that shameless was baby face I just thought that everybody in the entire show was a he'll I guess we'll find out. Well. So then Yes Was No going to mentioned something about Baron Corbin but you know what? Mention anything about? Baron. Corbin is usually a bad thing. So you just go ahead and go on. Then we had a Mizzen Morrison dirt episode which involved an interview with Mandy roses hair. This. Beyond Godawful. Sonia Deville came out and she kind of pretty good promo although they did talk about how Mandy had received a bumpy award. Apparently that's an award they give away on the bump. and. If you think, I didn't want to know what the bump was before now I really don't need to know what the bump is. And then. We have having Otis and Tucker hit the ring to set up a match for later Sarobi Lindsey, Dorato? No surprise there. That was at least a good match with finish. So I appreciated that if you're GonNa Watch one thing on the show that's pretty much the thing to watch. Then we had segment with the fiend and Alexa Bliss. Were the fiend is in the ring with Alexa Bliss? So they're either like. Teaming up together now or Alexa has been missing for a full week and nobody cares. He tries to lure bronze strom into the ring with Alexa. Braun appears on the big screen and says, and I quote I don't give a damn about Alexa. Psych Wow, you're supposed to be a baby face bloody. They've agreed to a match at Summer Slam. I went on our board and hide people trying to explain to me that this whole segment was like a figment of Braise immagination or of Stroman Mike. What's? It's bad enough what I have to see a vignette like A. Theatrical style match were Alexa Bliss part of it, and she's buddy buddy with with bray white. But now it's like they're actually in the ring doing a segment and I've been told it's part of someone's imagination something. This is the bottom of the barrel. Corbin and Jeff Hardy. went to a disqualification. When we had a run in, we then had corbin and shameless which I mistakenly last night's than went to a disqualification but in fact, Matt Riddle interfered, but it wasn't as qualification even though every other interferes on the show wasn't his qualification and then shame broke kicked Corbett and beat him. Keep in mind how much they protect Darin Corbin. and Barron. Corbin. Beats and gets heat on everybody. And this is how they beat the guy a win for shameless. We have a big promo which was the only other thing on the show. We had the Ho- c'est Sasha and Bailey segment with Stephanie McMahon on a Green Screen in the performance center it was so corny. They have they have announced next week. There is a try braided battle royal. The winner faces Bailey of Summer Slam. If we ripley winds. Great. I. Apologize For every Ripley Anti Gun on for the annex. T show where they don't have anything to do with her and they're completely lost if if this is what they've decided to do with and she beats Bailey for the title and she wins a smackdown women's title at Summer Slam Great. I can't believe I'm giving them any benefit of the doubt but I hope that's what happens here. Still doesn't excuse all the garbage pitcher. Good. We had MS Morrison versus, heavy machinery. Win. It is ended when Mandy. Hit the ring. And brawled with Sonia. To people not in the match. And it was a D Q. They did the same thing on Monday. Horrible. And, then finally. In the dumbest angle ever seen. One not ever seen I washed Lada W W but this is this is right up there with anything on nitro thunder. mainstone you're screaming each other backstage in the lights go out. Michael Cole Screams Oh. My God. They have weapons is that retribution? A bunch of geeks. Dressed all in black. With. Baseball. Bats. The local Ruffians at the Middle School. They hit the ring. And they they pound on the canvas with their, baseball? Bats. And they run. Amok. And in a very disturbing scene like a budget dude surrounded helpless woman and scare after death and then.

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Hour 2: LeBron Strikes Back

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Call in line eighty eight say ESPN ESPN nations presented by Dr Pepper it's official college football's back and so is your favorite Dr Pepper Loving College Football Townsville. Head to a store near you to treat your inner college football fan to an ice cold twenty ounce Dr Pepper today. So Kyrie Irving. Let. Me Say that in English Myself Kyri Irving. Goes on podcast. What's it called, etc I don't know with. Is that what's called just it's CETERA. And he tells answering the question takes the last shot right who take the big shot with ten seconds left. Cairo says they have the luxury of having guy take it depends on who's hot. Kyrie explained I. Don't see it as anything other than that. One thing I've always been comfortable with is I felt like I was the best option on every team I've played for down the stretch the first time in my career, I can be like that. BLEEP bleeper. Can make that shot to okay well, Kyrie every time you ever every team you ever played on includes Lebron James, and you were the best option down the stretch you or the closer high except that Kirk Gold's dairy. Of Sprawl and. ESPN fame this sprawl pick this up here. Put this camera. See this great. It's got pictures. It tells you everything good good illustrations of Charles Barkley yelling about analytic steph curry shoot and I know this looks complicated. Sorry. This part looks complicated no, he's really good at breaking things down graphically in ways you can understand this area, they they the rest allow you to. Play defense tougher than in this area. So it's harder to score from the from the block than it is from the from the corner three and the corner threes worth more and that's why this revolutionized he like he breaks it all down sprawl I suggest you pick it up. Anyway it's a good gift by the way look at this commercial I'm doing for crippled very a good gift. For someone the Sports Fan in your life you know i Raj because some of these guys at ESPN, I just call him on the phone all hours I'm like, Hey, listen this is what I'm thinking. Can you tell me this and they do it for me? I gotta I gotTa pay that back somehow. got. Shown I'd like that so. So, Kerr Goals Berry has it like it just so happens Kyrie we can measure this. We can see if you're right you should have been you were the best option to take the last shot on a team with Lebron. Because you Lebron played three seasons together in Cleveland, and over those three seasons you took two hundred ten shots league close meaning five minutes or fewer left in the game. The score within five To two, hundred, ten shots. Lebron. Took three Oh five. So Lebron almost one hundred more than you did. But that's a lot of shots a big sample size to go on. Your field goal percentage thirty, seven percent Lebron's is forty two. Five percent more but it's not five percent better than you. It's five percentage points better the new. In terms of shooting percentage. As a percentage of how much better he was then you. In fact, that's over ten percent better than you. All don't worry about the math everybody. Lebron was better than ten percent better than Kyrie Irving when the game within five minutes and the score within five points. That's leading close. That's the clutch. That's crunch time. That's who closes so to speak, Lebron, ten percent better than Kyrie. In a huge sample size that includes regular season and postseason. Well, okay. How about from three? Though because. That field goal percentage doesn't necessarily mean the way you shoot if you're six foot eight like Lebron. Getting the lane and all that you're finishing at the rim. Surely Kyri a better pure shooter than Lebron shoots better under those circumstances in. Lebron James Right from three, which is an actual shot, not just getting shot up when you're at the rim. Actually know. Kyri shoots twenty seven percent from three hundred of those circumstances Lebron thirty, seven percent from three lebrons actually a good three point shooter under five minutes to go score within five playoffs and regular season. Kyrie not very good twenty, seven percent not cutting it. That Kyrie choking under those circumstances. Look at the percentages. Again as a percentage of how much better Lebron is then Kyrie I know it looks like ten percentage points the the three point percentage in terms of how much better as a percentage Lebron is more than twenty five percent better than Kyrie shooting three. As a closer. Huge sample size three seasons were on the same team. Okay, so wrong on the facts he's wrong. His opinion could be what it is but it's based on his own need to be the guy he wasn't the Guy Lebron was. Later in the day, Kyrie made those comments I think in the morning yesterday later in that day in the afternoon Lebron was asked about what makes. Lebron James seat like Lebron himself and Anthony Davis such a good combination and this is what he had to say honestly for other guys what they. Speak for also for eighty I know we are. We respect one another. We drive one another we we command accidents of one another. And and that's what it boils down to. Jealousy envious as a lot of great things. Not only. Been in in general so. If you're able to. Just, throw it out to the side you know. Goes to the side, but continue to bring that confidence which trying to do with keeping the main thing the main thing. Not. Saying this. Is that easy before us? Is that easier when it comes our relationship like I said, it doesn't resort and every night result in. The numbers of him, putting a members every night. But as far as brother than our chemistry, that's what it. Boils down to as Jay Rue. The damage once said years ago, Raj Hatred Jealousy, and envy they attack me all. The green is. Kyrie irving doesn't sound good. And everything. Kyrie says is ego protection right. Steve Nash it's like you know telling Katie, it's like we don't even have a head coach like sometimes he can be head coach sometimes, it could be head coach you could be head coach Katie you it's like we coexist kyri would coexist. You're not the head coach. There is a boss of view, right? Like that's really what it is listening to a little kid. You're not the boss of me. Lebron. I should be taking the last shot. No actually it's his team Kyrie. Steve Nash. Not The boss of me. Well. Actually he's coach Kyrie and you're the second best player on the team. Probably. Like if K. D. is most of his normal self, he's better than you maybe if he's really. Really Hurt by the injury and he's not the same player physically Kyri calm the best player on the team. But he's more than likely the second best player on the team and his head coach. Is the coach and he's not. Everything's is ego protection. And Kyrie even talks about. Why do you have to make? He wants to tell the media, how to cover stories and why can't he just live and he? Why is he just a basketball player Kyri the only reason people are interested in you is because you're great at basketball and you ought be even better than you are. You've not been able to lead a team. But your skills and talent or you know, no one's questioning that. Among the all time. Best. That's why we're interested. He played basketball and that's what by the way how you make money. This is Kyrie's response. To those who suggest that in fact, he was talking about Lebron James. When he was doing shade Lebron when he was talking about for the first time now he has k. d. with him. Hey if he doesn't take the last shot and Katie does big deal even if Katie misses the he can live with it. That implies that he couldn't live with it when Lebron did it. I mean he had lots of teammates throughout his career. That's true. Is he talking about Jason Tatum who Kevin? Love who's he talking about? It doesn't matter because he's also talking about Lebron necessarily. Lebron. Was a teammate of his. Here's Kyrie's response to people saying he's don't share Lebron. While must always be brother against brother. Why If I'm addressing anyone. I'll say their name. Come. Listen to the false narratives that people litter lives. What does that have to do with anything? We need like crazy talk with Kyrie Irving. False narratives also like people love going around the word narratives nowadays, what's the false narrative? They're Kyrie that you? You were singling out Lebron I'm not saying you're singling him out but certainly, he falls under the category of teammates. You've had who you weren't happy taking the last shot right? This is you said thirty first time that I've had a guy on my team who I felt should take the last shot along with me. So, since you've already played Lebron and this is the first time that applies to Lebron what you just said. Well Yeah. But I wasn't talking about just Lebron Right. But what do you think people are gonNA say. Cares if you think that that that Jaylen Brown shouldn't take the last shot that you should. Tristan Thompson who you talk about people were going to talk about Lebron who was. A better. Late, in close in the regular season in the playoffs, then you we better not to mention a far better basketball player. Now look. Kyrie's inability to lead. CLEVELAND DIDN'T DO ANYTHING TO LEBRON. Got There. Then they were awesome. Then when the Brown left, Cleveland was no good Kyri went to. Boston. Boston. underachieved with him. They were better without him. Then Kyrie goes to Brooklyn Yup. He hurts he gets hurt and all that and Katie's but. They weren't a playoff powerhouse. And by the way, they made the playoffs. Without Kyri. Anyway, it's hard to lead an NBA team to a championship really hard. It doesn't just take a one in a million talent. It takes one in a million kind of personality to go with the talent like I think about myself when I was Kyrie's age in my twenty S. Could I have even if I had the talent to play at a at an MVP level in the NBA could I have led a team to a championship given my personality I was immature and my twenties. Maybe immature for forty-seven-year-old but but definitely for twenty something. Emotional age was but one but my actual age. And so so I'm not claiming I could have done something even where I blessed with the talent and put in the work that Kyrie did like if I was the exact same player Roger. If you were someone else that it's very unlikely that any of US could lead a team could have the maturity it because think about this when you're at that level since you're a little kid everyone's treating you different. You're. Amazing. They're doing stuff for you. You're the best player on court. You walk onto, you have to have the ego to believe you're the best player, right? You're a multimillionaire, the young age. Hundreds of tens and hundreds of millions. Everyone cares about the things you say. How does not warp your sense of self? How do you stay self aware enough to to relate to other people in a way that allows you the humility to be a great leader. Lebron is extraordinary in this respect Magic Johnson was extraordinary in that respect. It is only it's an unusual personality type that can do it. That's not Kyrie. KYRIE'S EGO is so fragile it seems to me. So wrapped up in people thinking he's smart. If he is smart, he's not giving anyone evidence through things he says. And, it may not even be that he's not smart. Although kind of like the simplest test if you want to find out if someone's not smart is the earth round and if they say, well, I don't know believe me they're not smart. So but but even if he is somehow. He's so it's so important that people believe that about him that he undermines his own case. He wants to lead. It seems to me so bad. That he's able to do it somehow because his ego is too wrapped up in it. Larry and Kelly on the Max Kellerman show ESPN radio. Welcome Home Max Scherzer Your Voice was missed here in southern California early and I have to say that the NBA finals is climatic. For one, two, three, you mean anti climactic. And is L- AMAC yet. There it. Yes. Because the the fans would have loved if seen the Lakers play the clippers. and the Western Conference finals, and then if that didn't happen at least play traditional Boston for a chance to tie the. Celtics. For the time victory total of Seventeen Championship get. This is more like the Lakers playing New Jersey Nets and two thousand. Well, I mean looking Bam and Gordon drug were healthy and then maybe like just imagine those two. Guys were healthy in the heat win game to somehow even if they wind up passing and five at least going into games like, Hey, it's a one one series, and even if the heat lose that game, it's a must win for the heat the next game like we have the drama but the fact and also the Pat Reilly story angle and all that stuff. There would be drama on fortunately not only are the heat overmatched. They're down two of their best players I mean it's it's a rap I agree listen. Yeah. HAS IT BEEN ANTI-CLIMACTIC? It absolutely has Ted in New Jersey on the Max Kellerman show. Appreciate you makeup company you're talking about this. Thing, I think most about Kyrie irving he was deathly jealous but Brian James. I think that comment that he made was shoot it out of that. 'cause he wanted to be seen as the Alpha. And Main Guy. But the Brian James Clearly, you know the one that. Caused them to win the championship. Here's a thing Ted Kobe wanted that with shack to you know he wanted it shack and didn't get it the first time round. So they won three championships but Kobe hadn't demonstrated he could be Alpha on a championship dynasty but then later he got POW and he proved that he could they went to three straight finals and won to 'cause POWs not shack right otherwise they win three out of three. So Kobe proved it at a certain point. Kyrie's been given the opportunity to prove it. He was on a talented Boston team. The Boston team did better when he wasn't there they better before he got there. Then when he was there, they had more playoff success and when he left, they also did better. So it's not about the development of the other players randomized about him. He had a deleterious effect on the chemistry. Now he's in Brooklyn. He's got K.. D.. Can he do Kobe did? Can he be at least one of the leaders? One of the two guys who truly the leader on a championship team Were will he have one deleterious effect on the chemistry of the team? He has to stop worrying about? How people will perceive him. About. People thinking that he's smart where that he is a leader he has to forget about all that and I'm sure he feels like there's all this kind of injustice and that if only he could articulate cleanly clearly. An answer. Each kind of comment people would see that he's right. First of all no, I don't find him articulate to tell you the truth I. Don't find his position. Well, I mean if he does then I don't think his thoughts are very strong. So I'm just GONNA assume that he doesn't articulate his position while secondly, he can't worry about that right now. He has to be thinking at all times. How do I help lead this group of guys to the Promised Land not about, hey, we don't really have a head coach. I'm thinking philosophically about how we can all coexist some days. I'll be the head coach Rick Everyone sees through that. That's paper thin. It's your ego. GOING INTO EGO Protection Steve Nash not the boss of me. You have a head coach Kyri. And you what you can do is be. One of the actual leaders on the team that leads your team to a championship. Not simply kind of used as a great offensive tool by the actual genius orchestrator and leader Lebron James but actually, you can be one of the leaders but not if this persists. The things you think you're justified in. In terms of your point of view and feelings about it. Still, Correa still young when I was his age I, get it. Think about back in your twenties, how many how aggrieved you felt it work or wherever else in a relationship where you might look back now and go yeah, I was young and stupid. Very. Rare for someone to be like Lebron that's why like when the bronze steps in it occasionally everyone does or does something that I think I think to myself you gotTa Cut Lebron Slack He's been called the chosen one since he was like a baby and still he manages to. Have a sense of self to figure out how to lead. A very rare gift. These days hiring can be difficult Monica starks could relate she needed to hire for a pivotal role at her construction company GS group, but was having a tough time finding the right person. So she switched Ziprecruiter and today you can try it for free at Ziprecruiter dot com slash Max, Ziprecruiter Center, the best candidate for her role around five minutes after she posted her job and she hired him the next day with results like that. It's no wonder four to five employers who post on Ziprecruiter, get a quality candidate within the first day and right now you can try it for free. That's right free. 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Robert Ory, you could argue. Who? was already the best to ever did it and then got even better under pressure. How can the best get better than the best ever? Michael Jordan Mariano Rivera. The highest level of clutch doesn't mean they're perfect Mariano. Rivera blue. The series against the the Red Sox in. Oh Four. He was on the mound in one when. He threw the ball into Centerfield instead of a double play ball Derek jeter would ended the Arizona season. then. He gave up a broken bat little flair just over the. Dow jeeter's head because the job pulled in the infield he he wasn't infallible but. Our era has the lowest Dra in the history of baseball lowest adjusted era in the history of baseball for all pitchers who pitched over a thousand innings and in the playoffs where he through over one hundred, forty innings. Two full relievers seasons by the way, and he was a guy sometimes did pitch more than. On the old days we had pitched in Rivera will do that. Rivera's era point seven. So. It's three times better. In the playoffs and it wasn't the regular season and that was the best ever. He actually got way better under pressure and the standard set was already the best to ever lived. Michael Jordan did same thing. But there's the opposite of that scale. Maybe you're the best to ever did it and you suck under pressure. Like you might still be okay because you're falling from such heights, but you're clearly not the same. Pete Manning for wiles that way well, he didn't have a defense really is that why he was shut out against the jets? What does it have to do this defense? peyton manning the greatest. Regular season player. I think in the history of football I think it's fair to say. No one in the regular season was better than Peyton manning ever. In the playoffs he won good for a while for for years. He really was bad. He was a choker. And eventually given enough Reps. if you're as great as Peyton Manning, you're gonNA come through. James Harden. One of the best defensive players ever according to many. And he's he's is improved to. Under. Pressure he's gotten better and better, but still not his normal self. Not. Even his normal self let alone elevating when it matters most. I'm not making this up. This is not like like a lot of people will for years give Kobe or jeeter credit the elevate under pressure. Now they stay the same jeeter explain why the other day. He said. What about this young team getting into the playoffs? The first time how you expected react he said, look the approach we take is from the first pitch spring training you're going about your business with the utmost intensity. When you get to the playoffs, this is the same thing. Explains a lot about Geeder. But there are players who can't do that. or it takes them a long time to finally get used to it enough to do it. Clayton Kershaw. Is notorious at this point for that regular season I'm going to read it Clayton Kershaw as one, hundred, seventy, five, seventy, six wins and losses, and I know people don't care about wins and losses so much anymore his era. By the way in twenty, three, hundred plus innings in the regular season is now two point four, three it's one of the lowest of all time Clayton Kershaw had a four year prime. Between between the ages of twenty three and twenty, six, h twenty, three, twenty, four, twenty, five, twenty, six, we led the League in wins twice. In era all four years. In strikeouts two of those years. In, whip walks and hits innings pitched off four seasons. That's Sandy Colfax stuff like he did I was asked Tommy lasorda on La Radio about how Kershaw you know he's kind of doing the Colfax and list sorted. A wouldn't hear it and how dare you compare. Kershaw to Colfax Tommy. I did it because it was an apt comparison. In fact. Colfax through one hundred more innings your than Kershaw at that's the era in which he existed. and. I'm not saying Kershaw could have done that because people mistake evolution survival of the fittest survival of the best adapted. It's Tautological. Really the parents are able to pass on their genes to have offspring who survive are the ones best adapted to do that? That's why they did it. It been reasoning is circular. But it works. It's rather it's true. It's logically consistent. It's not that it's survival of physicists survival of the best adapted. So let me translate this now to baseball in this case. The players who succeed in a given era or the players best adapted to succeed in era in Colfax is era you better be able to take the ball every four days and throw complete games. That wasn't that's not for everyone a slightly built pitcher, for example, might have electric stuff but maybe, Pedro Martinez wouldn't have been amazing in that era. But by Pedro Martinez era, just just throw six innings and don't give any runs in those six Pedro Martinez inning for inning was the best to ever lived. As a starting pitcher but. Didn't throw probably wouldn't have succeeded in Nara where told three hundred plus innings, but he didn't pitch in that era. I don't know if kershaw would have would have been able to throw three hundred plus innings like Colfax. I know in his era, he did the Colfax just about. But. Here's the difference. To dodgers greats, left-hander. Sandy Koufax Clayton Kershaw. Colfax. Under pressure in the playoffs, I want to see his now there were no playoffs. It was right to the world series back then in sixties but Colfax world series era I believe I'm doing this often ahead I think it was forty seven innings he pitched in the world series he had point nine five. Point nine five. The greatest ever got even better kercheval. A two four, three regular season era in over two thousand innings pitched. Five seventy. Record for six, ninety, seven winning percentage. What does he do in the playoffs? He's ten and eleven for four, seventy, six winning percentage with a four to two era. Twice, what it is in the regular season, he's choked consistently and Kershaw whose regular season resume I say it is best. He's better than Steve Carlton. He's I easily his prime in terms of the of this year over year is at least Randy Johnson until about the greatest lefties who ever lived. But because of how he pitched in the playoffs, you can't call them the greatest of all time, which is why last night when he? Did what he did what he struck out thirteen in the end. Guys swinging and missing winning. Understand, the reason the dodgers haven't won a world series since nineteen eighty eight is because Clayton Kershaw has choked under pressure if Kershaw can be relied upon not to have a good or to just stay himself not to elevate your stay Clayton kershaw throughout this postseason, the dodgers will win the world series. That's what's been missing. Fernando Valenzuela was an excellent all-star season pitcher. He was an all time great in the playoffs all time. Great. Same thing with Hershiser by the way. Kershaw better than both those guys went matters least when it matters most, he hasn't been nearly as good if he can do this. If he's finally given enough reps gotten comfortable enough and relaxed enough and experienced enough just to stay himself that's the missing piece of the puzzle and the dodgers win the world series dodgers fans got to be very happy about his performance because it suggests maybe that he can. Max Kellerman show the podcast I'm GONNA take call. That's GONNA. Be The last team you get the last week. Don't tell me. Hey, what's up dotted out of nothing just give me your take. Okay, everyone. Got It. And Raj. If they start saying what's up just click off the line, they can tell me I'm great stinker this that but but you. Know. What's up in the pleasantries? We got too much too soon. So just real quick. You're doing fine. You're okay. I'm doing fine. Yeah. I'm crate no reason to ask me that. All right. Let's go. Richard in Manhattan you're on the Max Kellerman show go. Max. Before I get to my main point Colefax pitch southern world six world series games six. He got bombed in two of them one against the twins and one against the orioles he pitched great against the Yankees sixty both games he pitched one game great game with Minnesota game settlement or time. Look. The point is that Colfax had a point nine, five era in forty world series innings close to Fifty World Series Annex. Point nine five. So you add it all up and you divide it, and that's what you get. Point nine five less that are running game less than a run per nine in the world series. Clayton. Kershaw has an era over four but in. In the in the playoffs put an era under two and a half in the regular season. Stephen and calculate. He has something else to say he wanted to make a main point. Go ahead. Richard always gone already Stephen in California good. Max I just wanted to call about the Lebron and Kyri incident Datta was weird or I thought the timing was bad on Kayak and you got the bronze he's about to play in the finals about the timing of it was weird I know that we talk about Kyri listened steelers and Stephen First of all I said, don't see what's up and then you said what's up but then you started getting to your point kind of, but I still don't know your point is it let me just tell everyone how that call should have gone. Stephen gets on Stephen from in California, you're on the Max then he says. My problem is the timing is weird. The timing was weird in the middle of the finals Lebron still playing in. Cairo brings it up like that's how you do it. Charles in Iowa Go. See. I think I read just don't like Lebron. You know from the time he's been in Cleveland. He forced his way out and now he's got talking about he's better and he's he's more than Lebron's. Linda's. Kevin ever been clutch. He got a full one shown by bound in the playoffs. He went going and he was a super team when he's ever been called to be clutch I agree Kevin Durant has not yet. Shown that he can win a championship when the odds aren't overwhelmingly on his side when they are. He played great. He played great. Lebron I don't think so but he played great but his team had virtually no chance to lose their the much better team right I. Agree I think that's what Katie can prove in in in Brooklyn K.. D. Improved. Even if he's no longer the goodest of his career, he can prove that he could have his greatest accomplishment like Mohammed Ali was the goodest heavyweight who ever lived before he went into exile because the US government would took away his passport and he couldn't get a licensed to fight because he resisted the draft Vietnam refused induction. When he came back. He was not quite the same fighter. He was not the goodest he'd ever been. But because of that, he was able to show that he was in fact the greatest. He he overcame the odds K.. D. Can show now that he can take a team that's not oh my God. Overwhelmingly look on paper that's the best team in the League it's just one of the best teams. And if he can win a championship with this team now coming off that injury that will be his greatest accomplishment you will have approved he will prove his greatness. In a way he has not yet and given his goodness, right? How he how great he was it as good as goodest the level he was playing at when you combine that, he will elevate himself into the discussion of who is the greatest player ever after Michael Jordan. Lebron is a Kareem as a K.. D.. If you win the championship with Brooklyn, he puts himself into that kind of rarified air. Trevor in San Francisco you're on the Max. Kellerman show. I don't like that the media's always pins the players against each other. Carey says where he says and then people immediately bring the brand into. You know you don't have to diminish one player in order to praise another. Good, real was doing it away. K. D. simply another great score but he hold on hold on Trevor. Think of what Kyrie said he said now for the first time, we've K. D. with UK d I can say that that guy's just as good me as the end again at the end of games but he played with Lebron. So if he's saying, it's the first time that shaded Lebron is it not? He's really saying that when it comes to clutch time like Stephen, they said give me the ball. It's my time K.. D. is on that level cable, the bronze within. But Lebron is better than Kai react that they played on the same team Lebron shop better from the field shot better from three way better was way better. I hand five minutes and five points at the end of games regular and postseason three seasons with the cavs Max Kellerman show ESPN rate is for listening to the Max Kellerman show. Make sure you subscribe rate and review. You can hear the show lot weekdays at two PM EASTERN ON ESPN RADIO ESPN news or wherever you stream your audience.

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Effectively Wild Episode 1546: Best of the Best

Effectively Wild: A FanGraphs Baseball Podcast

1:00:45 hr | 6 months ago

Effectively Wild Episode 1546: Best of the Best

"Alive s good morning and welcome to Episode Fifteen forty-six effectively wild baseball podcast from dot com brought to you by our Patriot supporters. I am Sam Miller of ESPN along with Ben Lindbergh Pillow Ben. Loop all right. I'm going to try to tell you this fun. Fact which is not very but is in the form of a fun fact in which is my favourite current fun fact. Not because it's actually my favorite but because it's the most incredible one that I've seen in a very long time all right so this I'm going to try to get this right. I've read these paragraphs like five thousand times to try to make sure that I'm I'm getting this correct. But okay if you are breathe if you're infected with covid nineteen and your just breathing. You're just sitting there breathing. You know sitting at a desk breathing you release about thirty infectious viral particles per minute. Okay Okay so not very fun so far. Thirty infectious viral particles. All right thirty if you are speaking that goes up. It goes up about like ten times that much so instead of like thirty viral particles per minute. YOU'RE UP TO ABOUT SAY. Three hundred viral particles permanent. Okay okay so so thirty. Three hundred and then if you sneeze or cough you you release more than three hundred viral particles with that sneeze or cough and I would like you to guess how many viral particles do you think you release when you sneeze or cough the seems like exponential or something. So let's say you're you're going from thirty to three hundred so I I wanna say like three thousand or something but I bet it's more than that because you to love this fact so it must be a big number right so I'm going to say it's like Instead of ten times more. It's like a hundred times more. I'll say it's like thirty thousand thirty thousand. I don't know how many viral particles are viral particles. Were not a virology podcast. Though something about this so struck me that I had to open a baseball podcast with it. Yeah so it'd be a big number. It is a big number but try again try again. At first I thought you were saying I went to pick but okay so bigger all right. Three million viral particles two hundred million. That's so many viral particles. Two hundred million. Oh my gosh song right now. That is according to Dr Aaron inch who wrote a extremely. I found it very useful. Practical Guide to the known covid nineteen risks and how to avoid them. It's even worse because of course when you're breathing the viral particles they just sorta flop down like straight in front. You'd like they don't make it like they hardly escape your gravity gravity whereas a cough goes fifty miles an hour and a sneeze goes two hundred miles an hour or up two hundred miles an hour and so all those particles immediately shoot around the room base and then they just hang there and they just are suspended for a while said if someone even just walks by even after. You're gone then yeah. Yeah lots of IRA particles even then my goodness well all right. So were were back. You have anything to talk about. Yeah I've got one thing and it's not viral particle related. It's about my trout and we talked on episode fifteen thirty seven about things that we would save in the hall of fame in one of the categories with something related to make trout that we would save and we all had trouble trying to figure out some Mike. Trout related item to save in the hall of fame. And we got kind of creative and went with sort of weird ones because we couldn't really think of a particular play that was such a highlight that it's so closely associated with trout that we would preserve it but I read or heard what trout considers his best at Bat. Ever so this is maybe what he would save in the hall of fame for himself if he could and last weekend he. And the Gopher Brooks Koepka were on instagram chat. I think they're both Nike sponsored athletes. And so they were. Having a Nike sponsored chat and kept PGA. Ask Trout who the best pitcher he's ever faced is and the answer is somewhat surprising in one way and not at all surprising in another way. It's Max Scherzer. He said which is not surprising. Because there's one of the best pitchers of this era but somewhat surprising because trout hasn't actually faced him in a regular season game since two thousand fourteen because Signed with a team in the National League so in his times facing Sherzer from I guess. Twenty twelve to two thousand fourteen. He faced him sixteen times and it did not go well as you would imagine. Trout has added one eighty eight one eight four thirty eight against Sherzer. In those sixteen plate appearances he struck out and ten of them and didn't walk once and he had only one extra base hit a double autumn. So no wonder. He thinks he so hard to hit but they did face each other in the twenty eighteen all-star game and it came up. It was the first inning and Scherzer's struck out mookie betts than he struck at Jose. Altuve A on three pitches. I think to start the inning and then trout fell behind one to two sherzer but then he worked account full and he fell off a couple pitches and then he drew for. He walked on a pretty close. Pitch and trout told Gut. It was the best that I've ever had. He was throwing nasty pitches and I just failing stuff off and that really struck me that that would be the best a pet. He's because obviously he's had a ton of successful pets. They ended in much more. Remarkable sensational ways than this one which was just a walk just a humble little walk and chart has even been a hero in all star Games. He was the game. Mvp Twenty Fourteen and twenty fifteen the only player to win back to back all star game. Mvp awards and in his next at bat after he faced yours are in that game. He hit a home run off of Jacob degrom and he also hit a home run. I think in that two thousand fifteen all star game so you could have said well. What's Your Best Sepulvado? It's the time I hit a home. Run off the eventual cy young award winner in the All Star Game. But no. It's not that one. It's the walk that he drew and I guess that makes sense because going into that plate appearance he had A. Ken Struck out ten times without ever walking against Sherzer and this one time after he struck out bets too vague and got trout within one. Strike of a strikeout. Trout fought back and ended up walking and I guess that's kind of emblematic of Trout. May Be that he would pick such a you know. Almost forgettable to most of US played appearance as his best plate appearance ever but also that that Kinda represents the maturation that trout made over those years between his at bats against Sherzer. That was really how he got better like he added Power Scher but really I think. The biggest most notable improvement entraps game over those years was his plate discipline his great strikeout to walk ratios and his ability not to swing at pitches that he shouldn't swing and so that was the at that that stands out most in his mind which that just sort of represents trout to me that he picked that. I never would have picked that. Yeah it's interesting that he picked a plate appearance. That didn't count because of course it doesn't count to us but the physics of it are the same to him like he was there and the pitch was coming just as fast and it was just hard to hit. Max Scherzer and so for us. That's just a plate appearance that we forget about. I mean some people really love the All Star game so that might be a plate appearance they really remember and I do remember Mike Trout. I think it was in two thousand twelve when he was in the All Star game. I I if I think I have this right. That part of his legend was that He was in that. All Star game. He his plate appearance was against. Ra dickey and he got a hit against our dickey and it was the first knuckleball he had ever seen in a professional game And so you're all star game. You know exploits Kim create legends. But otherwise I don't care what he I would. I would tend to focus a lot more on the ones that that do count but like said to drought. It's hard no matter. What like it's hard if he like. I don't know it's it's hard even. If it's in practice it would be hard to face. Masters make sure was trying to get you out Do you think that Brooks Koepka ever asked Dick groat who the toughest pitcher he ever faced was well? Dick wrote is his great uncle of well. Maybe he did so Dick. Groat the One of the heroes of the nineteen sixty pirates. I believe he was the MVP that year and if he did ask Dick groat. I think that he I think almost certainly the answer would also not be surprising. I think he would almost certainly pick Sandy Koufax who is both probably the actual most difficult pitcher he ever faced and also was a pitcher who pretty much dominated him and if you look at batters or pitchers he faced at least I duNno. Let's say more than forty times. Then Santa Kovacs was has the second best numbers against him almost identical with with Don cardwell faced Colfax twice as often and hit one eighty to thirty six to forty eight against him. But really if you just limit it to the years when Colfax had matured and was good so in nineteen sixty one to nineteen sixty six. He faced Colfax Ninety seven times and hit one. Fifty two in those ninety. Seven Plate appearances two doubles and no other extra-base hits so slugged. One seventy four against him. Over the course of one hundred plate appearances with a one. Eight eight on base percentage. So there you go. I did your work for you. Yeah so if trump had had some picker games if he had had a tiebreaker Gamer. Some came with big pen and implications or more playoff games in which he had had success than maybe he would remember one of those his best at that but best result doesn't necessarily mean best at that. I mean best. That can come anytime and so it came for him an exhibition game. And I wonder if you surveyed every player about their best at bat what percentage of them would be walks because on one hand. You'd think we'll that wouldn't really stick in your mind walk but on the other hand it's probably the most likely type of plate appearance to get complimented by broadcaster like all good at that professional at Bat. When you're in the whole maybe in the new work your way back and you even the count. And then it's a full can't and you fell off a couple pitches and then you take a close pitch walk. That always gets you broadcaster. Kudos so I wonder whether people do think of that as just a good at bat like you know if you just go up there and you hit a home run on the first pitch or something. That could be a good at bat to 'cause we're ready in you're aggressive and maybe you adjusted after your first plate appearance when the guy through you on there and you took it and now you're not. GonNa wait and that's a good at bat but I think probably when people say oh could it bet? It's a long at that right. It's when you foul off. A bunch of good pitches and take a couple of close pitches so maybe a walk wouldn't be that unusual but I don't know it just seems very rowdy to have such a non sensational plate appearance. Be His best one ever. Yeah I think almost certainly I think almost certainly the if you asked every player this question. The median number of pitches would be at least eight or nine. Yeah Right Yeah I. By the way I guarantee you that Dick groat best plate appearance. If you asked him that would also be a walk. It was it looks like it was in nineteen sixty six and it was a nine pitch walk that he earned off Sandy Koufax well maybe we should just have Dick groat on instead of putting words in his mouth who knows what he would say. The ball ball strike foul foul ball foul ball. Good at pet yeah. I enjoyed the her Washington baseball card. Discussion Fun fact. All that whole thing about nine nine nine wins with his speed and while I was working on the Don Mattingly car back. Patrick Dubuque pointed out that there's another nineteen eighty seven tops card back. That's a a great card back bio which is for Carney Lansford Carney Lansford bio that year was carney is a direct descendant of Sir Francis. Drake the sixteenth century British admiral. This is a good car. Back partly because Sir Francis. Drake has no known descendants No he had no children. He was married twice produced no offspring. And so this gets you thinking trying to figure out if there's any other way that this could be the case and it turns out that Carney Lansford this quite a bit. In fact it turns out that if you were alive in nineteen eighty-seven you've probably heard this carney. Lansford Sir Francis Straight story because it got mentioned all the time just a ton all the time. I think it went national win Jim. Murray of the La Times wrote about it in nineteen seventy nine when Lansford was called up but before that in fact in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight the Orange County register wrote about it and it also said that he is a I believe fourth cousin of Tex Ritter the country music singer and so he's forth season. Hardly worth mentioning. No one even knows what it means. Yeah this was brought up a lot but it was also brought up that that Sir Francis Drake add no no heirs and he had no children and so even way back in one thousand nine hundred seventy eight nine hundred seventy nine. It was just a thing that people were talking about for some reason. Cornelius third having a connection to Sir Francis Drake but also maybe not some reporters pushed him on it and like The Times claims that he took the fifth in one case. He says that his grandfather traced it back in another he I guess this this fact got to writers because according to Carney the angels when he was a prospect a minor leager. The angels sent a questionnaire to players asking you know their basic biographical stuff and maybe also what's interesting about your or I don't know maybe they asked her you really the Dick groat or any other famous people and so Kearney says that his mom filled it out he doesn't know anything about it. At one point he actually said my mom filled it out. I don't know anything about it. But he says that you know he he he figures she knows she knows enough that she's not making it up. Same thing with Tex Ritter Anyway Nears. I can tell. This is both not quite fiction that Carney Lansford created but also not probably true. He claims illegitimate child at one point. He says you don't know. Maybe he had an illegitimate child and another interview. He says what people don't know is that he had an illegitimate shop. Carney Lancers all over the board here and as it keeps getting repeated. It's been repeated in the last couple of years in blog posts every every couple of years. More writers discover the Carney Lansford Francis Drake connection and then mention it and then also usually mentioned that Sir Francis. Drake sometimes mentioned that. Sir Francis Drake has no descendants a no children anyway. I wanted to bring that up as another card back and I've been in newspapers DOT COM and a lot in the last few weeks. I looking at world series second more recently looking at a different article. That's going to be going up. I don't know sometime and it's just really interesting to me. How there's this cycle for fun? Facts or for legends or for interesting things or for any any content really. It's the cycle for content. Which is the thing happens. The content exists in its day in time and then a whole bunch of time passes and then the content becomes fodder for us to fact. Check the content. There's like there's a rediscovery and then trying to figure out where did that come from. And so all this content this second life and so like the the Carney Lansford Carney. Lansford being to me him. Being related to survey ranch's drake is not that interesting and yet twenty thirty forty years forty three years later forty two years later. We're still talking about it just because it's something to go check and the checking is fun. Yeah there is a resemblance. They're both red hair. Mustaches passes the eye test. But maybe that's where it comes from. Maybe but yeah well I think to me what is interesting about the her. Washington attacked end. I guess also the Carnival answered one on the card back is just that it stated so matter of factly. Yes he wants said that he was related. It's just like no he is he is it's like there's no journalistic standard there. You don't have to sight anything you don't have to have two sources corroborating it. It's just you know if someone wants said it ever if he said it if someone said about him then it's fair game to be on a card back just stated as fact which just I think that makes it more enticing to fact check when it's just stated so so boldly just like that. It's like well really prove it. How how do you know if he said well? My Mom said at once and then you might ask his mom where she got the idea. That might be interesting. But I think it's much more enticing to me as fodder for fact checking when it's just stated so plainly like that and yet with no evidence whatsoever. Yeah no that's exactly right it. It is the fact that in the in the minute or and at the time. When you're writing it you cut corners on your attribution and you don't you don't feel the need to explain or to source it necessarily and then you leave this whole mystery. Where we're we get to figure out whether you made it up entirely. Or what with the with the her Washington one? What's so great is that you have to go into the mindset of a nineteen seventies statistician or coach or teammate and figure what what information was even available to them. What philosophy were they following? It is very much trying to solve the mystery of how and nineteen seventies athletic. Would think it's a it's a really a IT'S A. It's a time capsule in so many ways and like I imagine right that if that baseball card said I don't I don't even remember what the final outcome was but it said nine times. Her Washington scored the winning run. Is the pinch runner. You'd go. Oh okay right. But it's the fact that they that they phrase it in a way that is open to interpretation and they don't source it that makes it interesting and so there's another one that I've been thinking about. Which is the crowd had? Story is? What's known as the crowd head story? I don't know crowd head I I don't we okay. Saying crowd head. Well I don't know how many German listeners we have but I don't know hopefully they'll allow it for the sake of historical accuracy of what's the story all right in one thousand nine. The Tigers in the pirates were in the world series that pitted ty Cobb against on his Wagner. Which is a great match up of two of the all time greats and the two greatest players at the time and really in an era probably when the greatest player on each team was to take over the game a little bit more than they do with base running in with with by hitting four seventy and so ty? Cobb had a very quiet world series. He didn't do much and there is. I'm GonNa read now. This is the wikipedia page Under the title the crowd head story there is a standing legend cobb standing on first base called the German ancestor. Honus WAGNER CROWD. Head told him he was going to steal second and was not only thrown out but that wagner tagged them in the mouth ball in hand drawing blood from COBB's lip all right. I'm willing to just tell you in advance that this story is probably not true. In fact it's not true but when you hear that story. Where do you hypothesize it originates and four? What end to what end I would think that maybe Wagner said Kate or his Wagner. Wants TO MAKE COBB look bad for instance and because he's kind of the hero of that story he was wrong and then he attacked him out and he got his come up and Souso in chaos or maybe not from Wagner directly. But maybe from a teammate of Wagner's say or someone who covers that team okay? Yeah that's a very good hypothesis okay. The wikipedia explanation is the story is largely attributed to the creative press at the time and Wagner and Kabore actually on good terms okay so if it were attributed to creative press at the time then you'd think well it's to create cliques cradle drama and I guess your theory for why these details about these people would be well. It's it's in character with the narrative that people are already into that they're familiar with you've got you've got your in your villain and were sort of playing those characters up a little bit more sort of the same way that like a pro wrestling Storyline might play up the characteristics of two people in a match right And so I will tell you that it is i. It could be that it was the creative press at the time. I don't believe so though because it doesn't show up until nineteen forty nine so it happens actually forty years later so to what end would someone invent this story forty years later? Would you guess Boy Well you hear a lot of old player stories who say something rather about something that happened forty years earlier that they never said at the time or even contract something that they said. At the time I'm trying to think I mean wagner was still around. He had been at coach until not long before that but I don't know why he would have. This was at that point. That was before the Cobb legend grew really. Before the AL stump books came out and before Cobb was really vilified so I would have guessed if it were a little later that it would be something that would come out in connection to that but I guess it's a little bit too early for that so I don't really know why that would come out then. Okay well here. I don't. I can't say this is for sure the where the story originates but this is the earliest reference. I could find to it in any any newspaper It's in nineteen forty nine. It's the Long Beach Independent and it's by a writer who Who would repeat this Almost exactly the same way about ten years later. And here's how he says Cobb still enjoys telling how he and Wagner so Cobb invented this story Hob now we all were thinking. Why would someone make up a lie about COBB? Well maybe they don't. Maybe they're his rival. Maybe they're just trying to play off his surliness to make him look worse. Maybe they're just taking something that they sort of. Broadly know to be true about his personality. And and punching it up to make it more colorful unconcern with the truth of it and in fact ty Cobb is out there telling a lie that makes him look bad. It's a very interesting thing so according to To I mean at least according to Wikipedia an examination of the play by play does not indicate that such a play occurred in the one caught stealing charged to Cobb during the first inning of Game Four. He was actually safe at second. Due to a throwing error by first baseman bill abstain so he was never caught stealing in that world series he was quote unquote caught stealing but he was and he ended up being safe on the play according to the Long Beach. Independent forty years later quoting COBB. I was standing on first in the nineteen o nine World Series Hana's was at second. I cut my hands and yelled. Hey crowd head. I'm coming down on the next Pitch Wagner. Didn't say anything but when I got there he had the ball and slapped it into my mouth and I had three stitches sometimes wagner doesn't say anything sometimes wagner replies with a Sassy reply like bring it on down or something like that like sometimes he's like bring it Sir and then sometimes he has stitches. Sometimes he is merely bloodied and sometimes ty Cobb loses teeth boy. I don't know I guess. The that term may be was back in vogue after World War. Two I don't know if that has anything to do with it but it doesn't make him look good so unless he was asked to complement Wagner something but it doesn't sound like that's what he's doing so I don't know it's a self deprecating story. I guess maybe it just shows his competitiveness and his fiery spirit on the field or something. Maybe that's what he's trying to show weird. Yeah by nine hundred fifty one by the way Cobb is in. This story is now saying. Get in my way and I'll cut both your legs off escalated quickly. Yeah Yeah it's interesting. How people how like the narrative that gets attached to two people. You might think that it makes them look bad but they might think that it makes them look good and I. It could be that COBB was really invested in being the villain and that he thought that that made him look good like the things that a villain does were actually things that he admired in a person now the fact that he chose to tell a again assuming that I'm in any way accurate about the origin of the story the fact that he would tell the story in a way that he is thrown out that he loses the confrontation and the more Genteel Wagner would eventually win the exchange both by tagging him out and I actually bloodying him is interesting like you could imagine him telling a story where he for instance threatens Wagner Wagner calmly says something polite back Cobb goes down and then actually like you know slides into Wagner and draws blood and everybody boos Cobb and he encourages the crowd Tabu him and you know he doesn't care if you boom but he still win but he actually apparently chose to tell his story where he lost which is interesting yeah. I don't know there's lots of stories told about tie Cobb. Many of them exaggerated so I guess he did the same for himself but I don't know what he would have been trying to say about himself there other than I guess. Just his ordinariness. Maybe thought that was virtue There is another story that I have found interesting in the last couple of weeks which is Wilbert. Robinson the manager of the Brooklyn Dodgers Manager of the Brooklyn robins in the nineteen twenties in one thousand nine hundred and five. The Associated Press congratulated him on his sixty second birthday and then he denied that it had been his sixty second birthday and he to prove it he did the Charleston he got up and did the Charleston. A young he still was and he said Yeah did they. They got his birthday wrong. And IT W- they were wrong. It was just a total fiction. It was his birthday. I don't know how they got his birthday wrong but I thought I went looking to see what the history of that birthday was and there are at least five different birthdays that were attributed to Wilbert Robinson during during his life so he was sometimes at one point. He was given a birthday silverware set by his teammates and it was not his birthday but he didn't say anything. Yeah sure why not the media the gets anyone out and then the newspaper wrote it up the next day and then there was the AP Different Day entirely and then there was after he died the day in his so June second was the Charleston. Birthday where he said. It wasn't my birthday yesterday and he did the Charleston to prove that he had not just celebrated his birthday so that was June second and one of the obits. When he died said that he was born on July second which I don't know maybe that's a transcription air from a transcription air. I'm not sure. And then there was disagreement about whether he was born in eighteen sixty three or eighteen sixty four and he maintained eighteen sixty four and others maintained eighteen sixty three and to this very day the sabre bio says eighteen. Sixty three wicked pedia says eighteen sixty three baseball reference says eighteen sixty four and I asked a Bill Carl of the Sabre biographic committee. Which is the final word on. All this in my opinion and he found the birth record and it is eighteen sixty four and so this guy just lived five different birthdays over the course of his life and I find it interesting that I care. Why would I care about this? Just because he was involved in baseball I don't know who Wilbert Robinson is like. It's not like I have a personal connection to him. I do not know Don Mattingley. I know I was into that. I had the card. He's Don Mattingly. Who was interesting to me. But why did I spend so much time on Wilbert Robinson? Just because there's a baseball connection to it. I find that to be a very odd thing to that. Just putting something putting baseball around something makes us pay more attention to it. Yes that's true. Well you might get an article out of it or at least some bender so that there's a a self motivated reason for that but I think anyone who's played baseball. They have some kind of connection to us more than someone who is in some other profession that we know nothing about and is a prominent player and manager. I mean he's a hall of Famer so he's not no one but still it's odd and kind of quirky that he would have five birthdays in. Why not if people will give you more birthdays than you actually have? WanNa take him more parties gifts. No downside for you. Do you think there are any non baseball fans that that shoe? Big League Chew Gum. I Bet yes. I bet. They're probably people who just like the taste. You think they walk into the grocery store and they go. I'm going to get the baseball one. Yeah probably I don't know how they would've tasted it for the first time if not baseball context but you never know maybe get it for Halloween or something and you develop a lifelong taste for it. Who KNOWS When I wrote about the mattingly card the researcher who I traced it all back to was Bill Haber who is one of the founders of Saber and also was the top card back writer and afterward I talked to his son who called and told me more about Bill Haberman life and he loved when he was a Kid. He loved playing baseball as many children. Do but then he got. I believe he became really badly afflicted with say asthma. I might be getting their own but I WANNA say. He got very badly afflicted with asthma and so he couldn't play baseball anymore and so he instead became this incredible research of the game. One of the one of the titans of baseball research from maybe the greatest biographical researcher in baseball history. Just a legend founder of Saber. He also you know dedicated his life to writing baseball cards designing baseball cards. During the statistics on the back of baseball cards choosing the photographs of baseball cards baseball baseball baseball he also was a longtime collector of baseball cards. He had the T two. Oh six on his wagner. He had that entire set in fact in the Wagner was the last card that he got to complete the set and all of those things are baseball right. They're all baseball related. But in no way would you naturally think well? That's a substitute for being able to run around in play on a sunny day like it does not seem to have any direct connection to that physical activity that you started with and I have when I was a kid. I was telling my daughter this recently. She said what did you love when you were nine. What was your favorite thing when you were nine and I said well I had three favorite things. They were playing baseball watching baseball and collecting baseball cards and other than the word baseball. I don't think that I considered any of those. Three things necessarily had anything in common. The things that I liked about playing baseball. Were not the things that I liked about baseball. Cards for instance and the things I like about watching baseball weren't really like I didn't collect baseball cards. Because the card somehow recreated the crack of the bat for me or recreated the sense of being outside for four hours eating cotton candy and hot dogs. I don't know why you putting baseball in front of something makes us like it so much. And I've been thinking about this. With regards to things like Wilbert Robinson's birthday and fun facts about Carney Lansford. If you just told me that these were if there was a big controversy over whether Brooks Koepka was a descendant of Sir Francis Drake I don't think it would send me down the rabbit hole now and yet I do. Yeah well baseball's your job and it's been your passion for most of your life and it's not the physical activity but I think for me. Baseball's always been pretty inextricable from just the cultural aspects of baseball and the historical aspects of baseball. When I was a kid and I still played baseball and I didn't aspire to be appropriate or anything but I like playing but even then I read lots of baseball history books and I collected baseball cards and looked at the stats and the facts and to me. It was all just part of peace. I mean I guess it was for you too. So it's SORTA strange that the physical activity would transfer over to anything connected to the fiscal activity. That's not really physical at all but to me it's always been sorta part and parcel like baseball just as a physical thing. The reason I care about it so much more than I care about other physical activities that I enjoy just because of the way that it's connected to the culture in the people in the stories and the history and the way that it has such significance to each of us so yes. It doesn't have to be that way but it always has been that way for me. Do you find that going back to the baseball songs conversation. Do you find that you like a baseball song. Because it's about baseball. Are you naturally more likely to like a song? If I changed all the words to a song to be about baseball you'd be more into it. No do you like baseball video games more. No no okay. Do you like big league chew. I don't know that I like it more than other kinds of gum of you. Do you choose sunflower seeds. No I I have at times. But it's it's too salty for me Yeah I I don't know if I objectively like any of those things more but I'm much more likely to consume them or at least I have been throughout my life and I was watching the the plots on. Hbo and one of the boys has a stamp collection. That's very valuable to him. And he's like really into his stamps and I'm just thinking like you know there was a part of me that thought how funny that people use to care about their stamp collections. Kids would be really passionate about their stamp collections. And of course I was very passionate about baseball card collections. And to a dog that they look like the exact same pursuit and yet something about putting a face on that was of a sport I recognized. Made me want the cards more? It's not like I liked those. I wasn't a baseball card collector who liked to collect my favorite players. I liked to collect all the players that were worth money in my favorite sport. So why didn't I just collect stamps? I could have had the market in my town on stamps. Yeah I collected superhero cards in addition to baseball cards. I wasn't a huge comic book guy but to some extent I was but I liked the cards a lot but yeah I I don't know I mean I guess there's just the residual positively associated with the thing that you love. Raden baseball cards says like it's always been part of baseball and following baseball and the cultures surrounding baseball. And it's like a you know for you. I guess it was to some extent like a father son thing and so maybe it's just all of that it's just gets passed down to you and and kids like play with them like trade them and stuff and. I didn't really do that so much. It was more of a solitary thing. Just kind of enjoying them myself. But you're right. There's nothing inherently great about it. It's like like baseball video games. I I say have been more likely to try them or to get them. I've probably had more baseball video games than other sports video games. But I don't consider baseball to be the best video game sport like I like Hockey Games and soccer games better just as a video game sport even though I don't follow those sports nearly as closely so in that case I I do kind of like the non baseball thing better but still. I have a lot of baseball video games that I've played and still try at least so anything associated with baseball at least willing to listen. This is so yes. That's sort of what you're saying. Nathan Bishop had a a piece at baseball prospectus. Some years ago about bobbleheads. And he he just. He spends the first like eight hundred words just ripping bobbleheads as like an aesthetic travesty. They're just really either ugly. Their kitschy their cheaply made. They are nothing but commerce. They're totally they've become completely detached from the meaning of the thing. They're meant to represent their gross micro industry etc etc goes on and on and he says then he says. I set all this up because I wanted to have a firm idea in your mind where I stand on bobbleheads and now. I'm going to show you a picture from my home. And he has a picture of his wall that is just covered in bobbleheads baseball baseball bobblehead. And he says there are a few boxes in the garage to. I don't even really know where they came from. I swear they multiply night but there they are they sit above my desk and I like looking at them very much. This is the dichotomy of my existence. And perhaps all of modern existence itself in the gospel of Matthew. Jesus said achieving perfection. Involved selling all your earthly possessions. And that I say I can't even get rid of the things I own. An actively dislike there is Emma Bachelor. Area had a great piece a couple of weeks ago at sports illustrated about box breaker culture. And had you been exposed to breakers before that nope okay so breakers? Are This not that new. I guess they've been they're having a moment. And so breakers are people who open boxes of baseball cards pack after pack after pack on the Internet. And then they post the video of it and in a lot of cases they then you can buy a share of the box. And if like you're share might be a Oakland athletics and they'll send you all the athletics and the pack. But I've seen some I stumbled upon breakers because I found some breaker who was accused of like basically fraud like he was taking all this like all his patriot. Supporters were revolting against him because the Patriots were supposed to be like getting them shares of breaks and instead they were claiming he was. They were never getting anything and thought. I always get sucked into a neighborhood. Disputes and so I added that to the list of articles that maybe I would write and it would have just been such a disaster and instead amarone fantastic one about breakers and. It's really odd thing to watch because it's just like there's I saw one video where it's just an entire hour of a of a guy opening pack looking for one card. And so like he has. He Has. He had a case which was like. I don't know twenty four boxes. Things like aright guys. Let's see if we can find the. And then he had some like jargon name for something with a Hologram. See if we're gonNA find it and then for an hour. He just opens pack after pack and he never almost never stops maybe one every fifteen packs cranky and then he goes on and this video had a hundred and fifty views so this was not a major industry that he was working on or anything like that and I was haunted by it. And I in some ways. Emma's piece was so great because it explained what's happening here like what the mechanics are of it and so you understand how people would be invested in what the person is opening. But also there's this quote that has similarly. I just have been stuck on this quote. This is rich cline. A Texas man a veteran card collector. He still remembers the first pack that he opened. Nineteen Sixty eight tops third series. When he was eight years old cards that he saved and revered in those days he says it was really one of the few ways. You had a physical way to see what the players looked like and then he says it's just fun to open. There's a joy about opening the pack. Not Knowing what you're getting and the thing that it's just fun to open he's says it's a lottery ticket you hope you get something really good but on the other hand. You're not necessarily worrying about that when you're opening the package a friend of mine introduced me to a similar thing on the Internet. Which is people opening toys on Youtube and then two and three year olds? Just WATCH FOR HOURS. They just watch them open. These toys and these toys are sort of like baseball cards in that you. They're like packets that involve that you open them. And then you see what the toy is after you open it and so it is. Super Baseball Card. Like where you? You don't know what you're going to get you. Maybe you're going to get. I don't know a marble or maybe you're gonNA get a top and they just open it and then you see the toy and then they opened another one and then you see the toy and they opened another one and you see the toy and the apparently toddlers are totally into this and rich cline captured that same mindset which is the same mindset that I add whenever I was collecting cards and which I still get if I open cards. It's just fun to open. I sometimes have been it company events at Baseball Prospectus company retreats where there's boxes of cards and you just open them and then they just get left on the you. Don't keep any of the cards and yet there's something about opening them and I just I again. I don't think that if this were football cards I would have any interest in it and I don't know why it's fun for baseball cards and I don't know why for breakers it has to be baseball cards. I couldn't figure out at the end of this article about breakers. I still couldn't figure out. Why are they baseball cards? Why why does IT HAPPEN TO BE BASEBALL CARDS? 'cause nothing about it is like. I am obsessed with baseball faces. I have to see them all the time they like. The they're not the cards. Don't exist to be looked at they don't exist in any way that's like totally intrinsic the where the sport is necessarily totally intrinsic. Do and yet. You can't enjoy it unless it's something you're familiar with. Anyway Ben. There has to be a level of recognition there though that's part of it. I mean if I opened packs football cards unless it was like a few of the most famous players. I just wouldn't know who is good or who wasn't I wouldn't have any idea whether this was valuable card or not. There would be no flicker of recognition. Oh it's almost like a remember. Some guys type thing when you open cards and you get to remember each of them. I mean if they're contemporary cards then you're not really remembering them. They're active players. But you still do. Get that little flicker of. Oh I know that guy and I remember this and that thing that he did and it's just kind of a confirmation that the world is an orderly place and you know this person and you know what uniform he's associated with like that's a big part of it. I mean if I opened any other sports cards it would mean very little to me just because I don't know who those people are. I don't know who the players are. So that's all of it right. I mean that's if we were opening baseball cards from some era of baseball like if there were in era of baseball that you I know nothing about if you know if there were some alternate baseball universe where like it was baseball but it wasn't the league that we ever watched if it was like the Federal League or something and we didn't know any of those players with that still be fun. I don't really think it would. Can you make a case for why it is fun though that when you do know the players? I mean if you if these didn't exist and you were pitching it to me right now like if I'd never heard of baseball cards and you said all right picture this their little cardboard there were nothing. They come in packs of fifteen and all. They are his player selected at random from the major league baseball universe. And you're going to open them look at them and then immediately move on doesn't sound great. It doesn't sound like a very good fetch. I'd probably pass on that. But yeah there probably is something to the fact that when you cards were introduced and for much of Baseball History. It really was the only time that you could see these guys right and so that and their stats weren't easily accessible. So it really was giving you information about players that you wouldn't have otherwise like these would be names that you knew maybe from the newspaper you saw the names and box scores or something and if you had no idea what these guys actually looked like then it would be. Kinda cool to see them right in to see them in some action pose and then to the able to flip over the card and see where they played. What there stats. Were like. That would be valuable. Nowadays it's not really because you can go to baseball reference anytime you want and you can look at a headshot or you can see their stats or you can open up mobile TV and actually watch them play. And I don't know if that's part of why I don't really buy cards anymore or pay attention to cards anymore. But it could be even when I was a kid looking at these things like I didn't know these guys in the way that I know today's players. Yeah Yeah I would love. I would love to hear a good kind of explanation. I don't know what I don't even know what field it would be. That could explain why it is that. It's so comforting. If you like baseball why it's so comforting to be surrounded by baseball in any form that something immediately becomes familiar. I guess maybe it's the familiarity. The way that this thing that you like can become. I don't know just like if if there's enough stuff than it just like a blanket that can cover you entirely with itself. It is weird. 'cause it's not like pokemon cards or Star Wars cards or magic cards. Where the cards Ryan we something you know like they let you play a game. They have abilities you can deploy them and they give you certain skills and that way. It's like oh I got this card. It's nice to display and put it in this plastic container or a sheet or something and look at all my riches but it does something to whereas baseball cards. Just don't do anything other than reminds you of baseball. Maybe inform you a little bit about baseball and then hopefully appreciate and be worth something which you know they haven't been reliably over the long term lately. I've been using baseball card as bookmark I had. I all my baseball cards. Were in a in a box. The ones that I had saved after the purge and I went through a whole bunch of looking for basically Nineteen eighty-seven tops don mattingly or any other. Eighty seven tops. And so there were. There are a few on my desk. There may be fifty on my desk and when I start a new book. I just grab one randomly and I'm kind of excited to see who's GonNa be the bookmark in that book like this is sort of exciting to just. Actually that is like opening a pack. Where you're like. Oh it's going to be Delano to shields for the next couple of days until I get my index card. Bookmark in there all right. Do you have anything else? Save out as I have one last thing. Well I guess I just say. I don't know how you came across that Uncle Robbie. Five birthdays fun fact but I would assume that was an accident and you just kind of happened to come across it while you were looking at something else which is one of the Nice things about doing. A newspapers dot com deep dive. Is that you come across all sorts of stuff that you would not have imagined. I guess that still happens in more modern sources. I mean if you're on Wikipedia or something you can end up in a wikipedia rabbit hole you click on link and then it takes you to another page in. That takes another page and you end up somewhere. You never expected to be but there is really a nice aspect of just flipping through a paper which I don't do anymore. I don't have any papers delivered to my home. And so if I'm looking at a paper online generally am there because I saw link from twitter or from a search result or something and so I'm taken to that one page and maybe it'll say here's a related article or here are most popular articles. And that'll take me to something else unexpected. But usually it's more of a targeted search and I know what I'm going to get when I click and that doesn't really lead me to anything else whereas when you're doing a newspapers dot com search. You never really know what you're going to stumble across and that's one of the Nice things about it all Ben. This segues perfectly because the last thing I wanted to mention is a new thing. I stumbled across on newspapers Dot Com. And it is. It is the Unlike Carney Lansford ty Cobb and uncle Robbie I have failed to get an answer on this one so this is in nineteen eighty nine now. Though in modern in modern understanding the big moment in cy young voting becoming kind of modernized in less winds and more war base was either when Tim linseed him one with like thirteen and twelve record I think or when Felix Hernandez one with something similar like maybe twelve and twelve or something. Let's see Felix went thirteen and twelve two thousand ten all right in Nineteen eighty-nine Orel hershiser finished fourth. Mark Davis finished first in CY. Young Voting Mark Davis was a closer. He was a good closer that year. But you know that he was just a closer led the League in saves but had you know half the war of a of a top starting pitcher of a starting pitcher and Orel hershiser. I believe led the League in war and this was the year after he had had the scoreless inning streak and won the Cy Young Award and won the world series. Mvp Award and all of that. So hershiser comes out the next year and he's just fantastic when the season begins and then he starts to hit a little bit of a run of bad bad run support and and his numbers get slightly worse so in the first nine starts yet in the IRA at one point seven six. And then it's in the of low to mid twos for the rest of the year and he ends up within the era of two point. Three one and a fifteen and fifteen record and the fifteen second fifteen is key because he actually led the League in losses so Felix went thirteen and twelve. And that's barely a winning record. And and that was a lot for voters to overcome to still vote for him and we were all excited when they did and I don't even know why I thought Lindstrom where we're Lindstrom's not involved in this story at all This feelings feelings is the only one in Baltimore but her size are actually led the League in Losses Kate so bold ink that year in losses and he managed to finish fourth in cy young voting which I thought wow. That's that's pretty early. Modern thinking I mean I wouldn't. He didn't win even though you maybe he arguably should've and he had the best. Yarra plus in the League and all that but but just finishing fourth seems pretty impressive. But then I if you look at the voting in fact finished tied for fourth he had to third place votes and then one first place vote so mark Davis got nineteen first place votes. Mike Scott got four first place votes. Greg maddox finished third. He had no first place votes. And then hershiser so really hershiser wouldn't have finished fourth or wouldn't finish it in any sort of significant position except that one person happened to vote for him. I so that's like a real out lake in one thousand nine hundred nine that person's thirty years ahead of everybody else yeah. Of course hershiser was coming off his incredible legendary season when he won the CY young and had the scoreless streak and everything so maybe he might have been more likely to get that vote than some other guy who was worth seven war but didn't have that kind of pedigree coming in but still still going to tell you one other thing about this voter who who voted for oilers. He is the only person who left. Mark Davis off. So he's the only one who did not get swayed by the saves and went with Auckland with all starters and so in one thousand nine thousand nine somebody was a ahead of the game on win loss record and be ahead of the game on not overvaluing closers because at the time closers were winning basically every other year. Yeah so I do know who this person is or at least. I know who this person is named to be and his name is. Dennis are conned a R. C. A N D R can and he wrote for La Press newspaper in Montreal. Apparently okay. That's the story. That sentence shows up in the CY. Young voting results articles. At the time I can find no evidence that there's ever been a person named Dennis are can who wrote for La Press newspaper in Montreal let alone wrote About Baseball. There is there is a Danny Danny are can D. N. S. Which is you know how a actual French person would smell. What an American would spent right out is Dennis Right Antra. And he's a famous Fizeau somewhat famous film director in Canadian film director and he was very often in the Montreal newspaper. Lopez and so I like to think that maybe wild directing films they awesome somehow gave him a cy young vote and he voted for Orel Hershiser and left. Mark Davis off his ballot. Entirely I'm guessing it's somebody else but I can't find anybody. I can't find anybody with that name. Any spelling of of that name writing about baseball anywhere ever and I can't find anybody in L- oppress which is on newspapers dot com. It's not like this is off the archive. I can't find that name appearing on the press in again in any spelling or really even just the last name. Arcand are canned in La Presse at any point for any reason other than the filmmaker and so this is now my mystery. I need to find the voter. Who cast this extremely odd and convincing ballot? Yeah maybe it was an early Bill James Accolade or maybe he was a time traveler. But I guess Arcane distill around you could try to. Yeah Yeah right so I don't know how or why it would be him. But you would think that like if there were just this one outlier voter may be it would be someone who was just from a different industry or something in somehow slipped in 'cause like he would the not so susceptible to the groupthink in he would say. Oh this guy. Will he threw the most innings of anyone? He had this number of wins and he had low. Era So sure why not that guy whereas everyone else was saying well. He led the League in losses and he didn't have the saves or whatever maybe he just didn't know what saves were and so he just went with the the good starter that almost makes sense except it makes no sense that he would have heavy vote. I don't know why like I guess. They were probably stringent than those days about. Who had not just like a random director is so the most like the person for press who actually had a ballot. Just he was sick. He had to delegate someone else and then he arkan was just in the office that day and he filled it out. Who knows maybe it was just a a protest vote or something. He just had him randomly pick it or he gave it to someone who knew nothing just to make a point but yeah now I wanNA know who that was all right so if you happen to be a Canadian baseball fan in the nineteen eighties and you can? Shed light on. Who was suffering ball for the press. Did you find any baseball writing in the press by someone else memories? Not Quite fresh enough. I I did all this four hours ago and since then I have walked into an out of many rooms but I don't believe I found a significant baseball presence in liberal. But I I could be wrong. I might not have search that. Wasn't there a an expos beat writer or something I think. Yeah yeah all right well right. That's a mystery. 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Hour 1: Do You Know Walter Mercado?

The Dan Le Batard Show with Stugotz

29:49 min | 4 months ago

Hour 1: Do You Know Walter Mercado?

"They. Come to you today wanting to talk about something serious because. I'm getting accused from every angle the last couple of days of using you as my Jewish meet shield to discuss what happened with the Sean Jackson and Stephen Jackson and what it doesn't buy me to. God's as a couple of things first of all. It doesn't know me very well, but it doesn't know you very well, either doesn't mean very well in thinking that. There's anything that I won't talk about here like you're giving. Idea I think you think I'm afraid to discuss the subject. Because of whatever your beliefs are, a excludes the knowledge that I haven't been bashful about talking about whatever, but it also excludes that twice in the last two days yesterday redundantly when he went to some of the same points, do God's within his wheelhouse. He got the football. He started running. He was defending. Judaism against the tax, but being forgiving as well and I. Just let him go, and then because our show is suddenly a sponsored NASCAR during the pandemic, there was no room to talk about. It I still haven't been able to get to the fact that I just learned. That settlement is Jewish. I've been wanting to that since Monday. I just learned. That element is Jewish. Not I did not know that and furthermore. Why did I not know that the resign? Ask you is because how is he not at the top of every list with Sandy Koufax off greatest Jewish athletes ever like how is that not a thing that everyone knows? He should be I mean. It's Colfax him and Rod Karoo. So I WANNA get serious thing and we will. Because there's some serious stuff to discuss here, but I can't. Because through got is making fun of Sodano and I think it it does bear repeating bear revisiting that. Not that long ago, Jorges it on came on this radio show and suggested suspending. Rudy Gobert forgetting the corona virus. Did. He did so we'll. Get to that in a second because the guys were laughing about that, but I. I wish you'd seen what they were laughing about in the middle of that which is. Scouts was saying that Mike Golic is one of the top five good guys in the history of ESPN. And when called on it in this age of equality when the group said to him, are there any women on your list of top five good guys that he has? Got Immediately pivoted to know I also have a list of top five fantastic females at ESPN, just sort of covered it up as fast like just it was unbelievable. How quickly pivoted into a lie about having a list of five fantastic females that has now drawn up because of the group calling him out on five good guys as it regards Golick. I've told you that I expected on reasonable amount of time during this pandemic, coming up with all kinds of top five list top ten list all decade teams. You don't believe I had my fantastic female. Is that the ready? Let's give you the benefit of the doubt. This is the first time you're not lying. Why is it that Golick why were you talking about a top five? Is it the history of ESPN five good guys? so Mike, Golic I mean it was announced well Golick did announce it, but he has bien announced last week that there's going to be a new morning show. Already STU gods. Dirty? How does he read about that in the paper? Hey, somebody's smoke out THIS WEASEL ESPN! WHO's leaking stuff? Who is this? where he spn who keeps leaking stuff so that Golic's reading about you know a hall of fame career ending from somebody else as opposed to somebody in our company, telling him straight up when this is happening. But when the news broke, that goal was no longer going to be part of the radio lineup. Now go junior will. He'll be doing afternoons, but You're the praise started pouring in a lot of people after it's settled in started to realize Mike Golic at a twenty year. Run doing morning. Drive on ESPN radio and did a really good job during his twenty years, and it is hard to find a person at ESPN or outside of ESPN that doesn't like Mike Golic senior. Does it think that my Golick is a good guy just? Just good guy, so it got me thinking about the top five all time. Good Guy List at ESPN and I believe I have a five that cannot be penetrated I. really do I. believe I have the five. You know all right, so is it diverse because we already know it doesn't have women because we've got A. we've got segregation here in your list. Top five fantastic females. Is it a diverse list or you're just going to give a bunch of cartoons. I know I it's diverse. It is diverse Do. Tony Chris. Why are you laughing? Because of how quickey is on his feet because he? He scrambling right at the time. Being. Is it actually went to a list, so he has a list. All Right? Let's see what we have here. It's on his phone. Do you want the dramatic flair and build up? Yeah, that would be nice. I appreciate yes, all right and again Jorges Sodano. Joining us. On our show that Moody Go, bears should be suspended for testing positive. I wasn't even willing. Jealous initially, you were initially. That he added take. You didn't have now, you realize. Oh, wait, that's why no one else happened. Number five top five goodguys ESPN and ESPN history according to God's. Mike Golic senior. Number Four Stu God's. Marty Smith. Number Three's to got. Tony Reality. Is Not looking very diverse. Number twos do got. I miss him dearly Stuart Scott's. That is wait a minute. Wait a minute that. It feels like an affirmative action hire in the top five list. Because I'm not saying he's not a good guy. I'm not saying that I'm saying. He was awfully polarizing. When he was alive, he was allowed to become a good guy after he left like. That's sort of the way that one happened. My List But I feel like you described. What was really a number two before you scratched it out and put Stuart Scott? coaching. And finally the number one good guy in the history of. In according to God's is. Lee Course. Fine Fine List and now in the interest of equality Stugatz top five totally fabricated fantastic females that he had to rush together when we told him his list wasn't diverse. Number, five STU Gods Suzy Kolber. So far or STU, gods cristine Lacey Lov ESPN and should be number three. Doris Burke. All of Famer, he's got the combination right of yes of being that nice and also being hugely hugely respected at being top of her craft number two. I mean has made a recent up the charts. No one is climbing the charts fast there than the creator of Hashtag. Girl Dead Number Two al Dunkin. was, number two on your list before you through L. Gunk in there in the name of diversity, top-five fantastic females in the history of ESPN. Had A store. Finally the number one fantastic mail in the history of ESPN according to God's. Linda, own, yes. Well done got. It is a good list of congratulations to Mike Golic incidentally on a hell of a run. He's GonNa keep doing college football around here, and what he understands to God's because his reaction was super classy to the idea that USPS. Dumped him, and he's reading about it in the paper, I reached out apologizing to him because I felt so bad about that as the ending and his reaction was to sort of shrug, because he understands the business of professional sports. How little loyalty it has, and we work in the same sort of place like it's not like you're going to have a corporate overlord that holds you close to. Bosom like he understands professional sports cutthroat mercenary, and he understands that sometimes at the end. You're going to get cut whether you deserve it or not. An auto policy from state farm gets you collision coverage and this radio ad from state farm gets you coverage of this beloved ninety six who to call. Is. For more coverage isn't. STATE FARM DOT COM. 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ANTI-SEMITISM NOT May Will you acknowledge for the audience that once you got that football? You just kept running like forrest gump through the end zone, and through the tunnel, and that there was no room in either segment at not to put you in the spot that will Smith Jada. Jada Pinkett in. What did you do? Stu Gods. What did you do I, was a ball hog I took the ball. Iran with it I did not pass it back to you I. Mean Dad is unafraid to talk about it. He's talked about it before. Talk about it again, and in fact, I'm not certain. I've ever encountered a topic that Dan is afraid to talk about I. have several. Speaking of which the botching of the Hor- Hey Moskva interview yesterday on the subject of politics. We will rectify that I'm going to South Beach Session with him, talking about his questionable political views He was on with US yesterday, and we'll see what he has to say about that, but we are going to continue that conversation. There wasn't room to have it yesterday. Because as I mentioned during the pandemic we are selling everything and we've kind of cheapen what we do around here. It's not our choice. It's being done to us and around us, but we've cheapened what we do around here in having less content because they're taking money from, anyone will give it. All right I'll leave that to you. So you have that covered because he's also going to come out to party the next week or two and I won't talk about any of that stuff, okay? So the thing that you guys have been I'm afraid to talk about. Let's start here. Okay. the Sean Jackson and Stephen Jackson were wrong period stop. We can have a conversation after that, but the front end of the context needs to be, and you can go ahead. This is very easy, right? It becomes a spectrum of yelling at them about how wrong they were outraging the next person they were wrong period. Stop! Okay, don't do that. Get yourself educated on the subject of. When others have been also oppressed like you now the part of this it's more interesting to me than wagging a finger at them, because the Sean Jackson and Stephen Jackson can be interesting illuminating on subjects that regard their experiences, and this particular take to me doesn't dilute their experiences. They can like I saw. Mike Wilbon saying Stephen. Jackson has lost credibility on all things. He has not lost credibility on being black. He has lost credibility on being able to discuss Jewish issues, but I don't go to Steven, Jackson and Sean Jack to Sean Jackson for any kind of illumination on Jewish. Issues regardless the Hitler stuff holocaust stuff I mean you have to respect the pain of others and don't dismiss it when when you have this situation. Where Malcolm Jenkins is saying I don't have time for that issue. I have to concentrate on our issue. I understand why a Jewish people would find that divisive. Now let me talk to you for a moment about the history of Jewish and black relations in this country, because you can make the argument that no ally in America has ever been stronger. To black people, then Jewish people now that is damning them with faint praise, because it's not like black people have had a whole lot of allies, but at the top of the list. Jewish people help with the Civil Rights Act of sixty four. Jewish people help with the voting act of sixty five. Jewish people help with the creation of the N. double ACP because they knew what it was like to be repressed, and then what happened politically, the Black Panthers got involved, and then there became a separation that has some conflict in it, not everywhere because this varies from north to south across regions and cultures around ages and generations, but There became a good deal of conflict when. Jewish people got money. Like when the class separation started, and then what felt like separation started so that's an interesting discussion to have. If you WANNA, have it I'm not interested in wagging a finger at the Sean Jackson Stephen Jackson because they said stupid stuff about anti-semitism, we can do that. It's obvious if you want to outrage me on that. Okay, maybe you win like. Of course, do not disrespect the Holocaust disrespect. Jews do not invoke the name of Hitler. Dan All I've said is the money doesn't make the pain of the Holocaust any a made us feel any better, and it certainly doesn't make them feel any safer at a temple that they're at on Yoga Kabore coinage niche. Racer but I'm just I'm talking about class separations through God's because it's something all over all over the country right now when you get into these arguments where the president of the United. States is saying and he's not using numbers that are you're not using percentages. He's not using per capita and he's just saying. White people are killed more pipe. Police officers than black people. You know instead of the facts which are that black people are killed at a disproportionate rate. When you get into one of these situations with these discussions that divide people what you're talking about largely is money. Gods like when people point to well, what do you mean? Officers are killing black people. Black People in Chicago kill black people. It's because of the desperation in that area that has no money that has been passed down generation, really like the core of the argument that people are having is our black people bad, or are there circumstances so bad because the system works against them instead of four them that it creates desperation that then becomes criminal that then becomes a business that then becomes modern slavery in mass incarceration. Transition time for some ants. But. Sodano said that Gobert. Regarding A. For businesses around the world, today isn't a restart. It's a rethink that's why they're partnering with IBM to Change. How they from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com slash smart to learn more. Kanye has dropped out in his run for president something more important, which is and it was a very short, lived presidential effort. Well now, who's the birthday party's candidate going to be an excellent question? put it on the poll. Please, Guillermo who's the birthday parties candidate going to be now yesterday now and I want to go to Roy here. Because Roy was saying that something is the worst thing in the world and I think this is an overreaction, but his judgment tends. Tends to be pretty strong on these things, so the worst thing in the world. According to Roy is what a mushy apple so put that on the poll is off right at Lebatardshow is a mushy apple. The worst thing in the world it's absolutely terrible like I had some good apples back in my day and basically begged. My Day was last week. Was crispy juicy. It was wonderful, but then I bought a new bag. Apples completely different species, and it was just disappointed. Bad now fuel. I will say this. The expectation of biting into a crisp, fresh, delicious, Cold Apple, and then you get the mushy rotted. Apple is so depressing so disappointing I. It's almost like expecting coke right, and then you get diet coke. It's terrible. Oh God worse. Yes, no, no, no, no, in the realm of foods that go mushy that we don't want to. The worst is when you order like a takeout sandwich or a Burger, and you get the sandwich and your bread like the bottom of the bread is mushy, because like through the travel and all the time, the mushy sandwich bread is way where she sat on the pole. As well I'm at lebatardshow worst mushy food sandwich. With soggy bread or an apple Billy I. WanNa know I've been meaning to ask you for a couple of days here because I saw on net flicks. A special that involves Walter Mercado and I need to explain this to the American audience because I feel like they might not know who Walter Mercado is, but billy. All of last year was really excited because he was on the cusp of getting Walter. Mercado to come on and be our celebrity prognosticator on football to beat Colin Coward and his people all said well Walter doesn't know anything about football, and billy just kept saying. Hey, you don't need to worry about it because that's exactly what we want. What do you mean know what any wagging a finger at me on? Okay, so Walter McConnell, being a celebrity prognosticator was. Was a dream of mine for longtime look I've had. Two people are going to be totally honest to people that I would always pepper house with like we need to get this person as a celebrity prognosticator, one was Walter Kado and that is not going to happen, and to was Jerry Stiller and that also is not going to happen, but Walter McConnell I realized after years of trying to get Alison to book him this. This isn't going to happen. If I leave this Dallas and so I need to kind of take charge of the situation, so I'm like. It was ridiculous because I spoke Spanish. I speak Spanish obviously. Obviously but I'm not a great. Spanish writer so people invitations hold on for just a second before you get too carried away here. Would you like to tell the audience who the hell? Walter Marcado is because I feel like we're talking about something, and they might be ignorant now. I know that you blaze ahead and don't care and can talk for four minutes. Can you just include the audience on all of these thoughts that you have something I like to call doing radio. Well, Walter, Marcado, for the uninitiated is a Puerto Rican astrologer who is a worldwide phenomenon. Let's say and if you watch the movie, there's a new. New Special on Netflix about his life called mutual mutual which was produced by Romero. Who Actually Dan I? Don't even know if you know this, but he was one of the guys that worked at fusion that was kind of responsible for getting us on TV, so this guy visionary. Obviously he put us on fusion, and he did a documentary on Walter Marcado and he would talk to Walter McGowan. He'd go and they did this whole thing. And it's kind of like the rise and fall, and then re rise of Walter, Marcado. It's a sad story, but it's a happy story and he's just a larger than life character. Well, he was very. He was very vibrant he was. Hold on a minute. You don't talk around it. He was theatrical and flamboyant and ridiculous like. Overly dramatic in a way that will that had a perfume, no regrets and no, no, no, no! Absolutely, not no, he was larger than life. He had a way of communicating with people. He had costumes. He was a showman. Use a classic showman like a Fred Astaire type like you know what Jerry Stiller which again we're not going to get Jerry Stiller either. Unfortunately another one of my dreams so anyways I took the chart that the lead I took charge and I was like. We need to go mcaddo on here to be a celebrity. prognosticator is going to be a perfect fit. You can bring strategy into it. He may not know a lot about football, but he was a very positive person. Good vibes and we haven't. Haven't heard from him for a while. which if you watch documentary, you'll find out. Why would hear from him for a while? Sad story, but happy ending, and then sat ending because he died, but so I reached out to macos, people and I. I did some talking I called some people. One of which was in the documentary shows like good. I wasn't being you know. I wasn't being fooled around with. This is an actual person, so that was good, and then things didn't line up. And then you went away for a little bit, and then I realized Stugatz Walter Marcado, probably not gonna be the best combination for celebrity. Go back to one of the Baldwin's for that. Hold on, hold on. Let's just stop this right here. Let's put a bookmark in it because I want to hear all about. We're close to the end the documentary I don't believe I. Don't ever believe you on that front era. Yemen KNOB. I. Didn't ask for any of that by the way. Yes, what I need to explain to the audience, is that basically Walter Makoto is the closest thing that the Hispanic community has to like liberace in terms of being ridiculously theatrical about something that didn't deserve it, and the other point I need to make is that there is not a Latin person listening to. To this right now. WHO's mother or allow or sister? Didn't drag Walter Merkava into their life whether we wanted to in our life or not there, there are so many Latin households where this guy was somehow a superstar, you can make the argument who the hell is bigger in Latin culture than the absurd and wonderful from Spanish television theatrical Walter Merkava like. I. Mean I think it's down to Walter God and Don Don Francisco. Gordo, that's that's it. That's the that's the entire list. For businesses around the world today isn't a restart its rethink. That's why they're partnering with IBM to Change How they were from supply chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBKR DOT com slash smart to learn more. Happy Sixty Ninth Birthday Jesse the body Ventura happy birthday to him. I don't care. Good Luck Nice one of the most amazing things of my entire life that the original Predator movie produced not one but two United States governors like you could have gotten good good money if you bet that becoming the thing that would happen between him and Schwarzenegger I want to get into Stugatz. His thoughts on the new ESPN radio lineup that was announced while we were gone. we will get to our thoughts on that in a second to celebrate a seismic shift in the lineup or Through God's. We are here through through a couple of different explosions on the ESPN radio front were wobbled, but still standing, but I can't get to it just yet. Because Billy has more thoughts on Walter Marcado. Well Dan I have a number of apologies to issue here because you asked me who's on the list with Walter. Merkava on I. Just I very lazily. Just said don't front seats GonNa Gordo Molina but left off. Lifelock Lilia Stefan. I didn't include Christina I didn't include Socotra. Bolo. Who Fun facts got so the host by the way fun fact, same birthday as me I? Know you're interested in that Dan. Then in the side of the category. We have got Lutron Harvey had Romeo, but they were more. You know there are more players role players to the Dome Franscisco Cisco that was obviously the don't in case right, and then there's. There's Hispanic Ryan seacrest Andrea Scientists, and then if you're going the news category, nobody compared to Guillermo Benitez. Nobody compared to hit so those are the apologies for omitting those people the beginning now Walter Mark Kyle has we've discussed or to reconstruct, so we were trying to get him naturally to pick football games for us because we had a long lineage of. People like. The Baldwin's that we had the follow up on right, so we naturally went to Walter Markov so I'm going back and forth with his nieces who were doing this thing and I'm I'm writing these emails in English and then I'm translating them in Spanish and I'm getting my family member like proofread to make sure that I don't I. Don't WanNa embarrass myself. If you have a line of conduct last thing you WanNa do is embarrass yourself obviously right so I have some phone calls at a making emails going back and forth and I think we finally found a way to get Walter Right. We're going to have him on. And then, and then as I was saying you went on your honeymoon Stu. Gods is not the person. Not at that would. Be Good with Walter, mccotter, we would call him a bit of a mystic right on Oracle. We'd also like a flamboyant mystic correct. That's what we would make. There's been very few people like him in the history of entertainment. In fact, the world's yeah. I can't think of very many where he is basic. All he was doing was reading horoscopes right, but he did so theatrically. Overtake all. He was doing the prescribing Orascom. Going to the supermarket remember the. Scrolls that you would get any Aquarius. All he was doing was really it was just putting on a show a performance. He was telling you in very uncertain terms that you couldn't kind of track back and say hey, you're wrong about this. No, no, you wouldn't give you that you'll give you very uncertain terms, and it was message of Mars very vague very. Kind of tip terrible. A! Terrible battle. It was the best, but he was also vague so vague that it didn't see much like science. He was giving you messages of inspiration, and positively to believe in yourself at. If you believe in yourself, you could accomplish anything because if you didn't believe in you. Who would believe in you? Good Question Walter, so he was spreading positively, and I felt like that's what we needed in the celebrity prognosticator segment positively right now again you then went on your thing and Stugotz wasn't gonNA. Do well with him, and then unfortunately we've established that. Before. You got back Walter. Pass away, so we couldn't get Walter on the show. We were this close this close and again Jerry Stiller. Another one that I want even right. You've mentioned a couple of different times. That I went on my trip. That God's wasn't equipped, and then not holding it against. that. We didn't talk. Foot sounders. Type, things differently could possibly had well. It's interesting. We were close that you mention time again. I'm resentful. It's interesting that you mention time again because. I wanted to ask you about the Netflix's documentary involving Walter Marcado no, but we've now gone two segments, and you've eaten up all the time. And what's GonNa Happen is gonNA people are going to blame me for being both anti. From the lander on ESPN radio.

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11 Trivia Questions on Numbers

Trivia With Budds

11:44 min | 1 year ago

11 Trivia Questions on Numbers

"Aides eleven trivia questions on number related answers from patriot subscriber and trivia player. Mike edwards trivia with buds. The only arena be welcome to another episode of the trivia with buds podcast. My name's ryan buds. Thanks for checking out my show. You love trivia. You've come to the right place in this. This show comes out every single day. There's five hundred episodes and more to check out so back in the feed and start listening to some topics you're interested in there all titled by what they're about and a lot of these trivia rounds are from live trivia rounds that i host here in southern california. You can find out all about me at trivia with buds dot com some guys. I have come across a new app. It is called skilley world s. k. i. l. l. i. world and you can download for free on the app store and the android store and all that good stuff and this is a new daily trivia app. It's kind of like h q if you remember h._q. I think that's still going on but the prizes are bigger and you do have to pay to play so it's like one to five dollars per game. All the questions are true false but you can go. Try out a game for free when you sign up for for the app when you just install the app they'll send you like hey. Here's your free ticket to play tonight. They do the games in the evening. I think yesterday's was like six thirty three p._m. <hes> pacific time so that's probably nine thirty p._m. Eastern timer mid western time whatever that is but just go check it out and i think you'll dig it. I linked it in the show show notes and real quick little newswire thing it says real money trivia app skilley world provides guaranteed prize payouts daily over sixty thousand dollars awarded in soft launch on the app store. Skill world has officially launched with daily price pools of five hundred dollars and this is a canadian company under the tree l._t._d. Cd a company based in ontario is emerging as a new player in online trivia market with the stated ambition of redefining trivia money real money trivia rather after a soft launch in april. The company has now officially launched. Its proprietary mobile trivia app. Skilley world is a pay to play real money trivia offering available for both i._o._s. And android what better place for trivia players congregate and compete in real money trivia tournaments than on caribbean islands floating in space facilitated by mystical woman named skilley this setting which she will find inside the app. We're tournaments are hosted on a variety of exciting topics every night. At nine thirty pm eastern the app or skilley world hosts a true or false daily mastermind tournament called g._m._t. With a guaranteed fixed price pool of five hundred dollars u._s. dollars a prize that the company promises will escalate quickly as their community players grows so go check this out again linked in the show notes skilley world and our hit them up see if we can get some kind of sponsorship going because i feel like people listening to this show will probably probably want to do something like that so maybe they will be on board to do something. We'll see guys. Today's episode is from mike edwards mike edwards in <hes> whittier california. He plays in a place called turnbull's tavern where i'll be later tonight. If you wanna play for big special benefit put on by my friend daisy to help. I believe it is zac cancer fundraising so go check that out turtles tavern all the info is on my website. If you want to click on the event for turnbull's tavern for tonight some special rounds i'm. I'm not doing anywhere else including the office star wars versus marvel so it's like two topics in one round. It's five questions on each the dodgers and bears anything to do with bears ears so that'll be fun got to prepare some stuff for that and i'll probably post that round on bears. Maybe i'll record it tonight and i'll post it later this week but come play tonight and michael probably be there and he wrote these questions. Eleven of them were all the answers are numbers and then you have to figure out something with those numbers at the end. It'll be fun one. We're going to jump into it right now here here. We go all right. Everybody mike said thought this would be fun. I was inspired by a math guy that you had on the podcast hot cast recently so i wanted to do one of my own. Here's question number one two thousand sixteen american horror film written and directed by rob zombie or five carnival workers are kidnapped and held hostage in an abandoned compound where they're forced to participate in a violent game the goal of which is to survive twelve hours against a gang of sadistic clowns that is the description for what movie question number one two thousand sixteen rob zombie movie with a bunch of <hes> sadistic clowns number one question number two california telephone area codes for san francisco and its northern suburbs in marin county and the northeast corner of san mateo county. What are the three digits there for the california area codes around san francisco number two number two question number three how old currently are jerry stiller and singer tony bennett number three. How old are jerry stiller and tony bennett number three question number four. H._b._o.'s is had how many seasons question before h._b._o.'s <unk> is had. How many seasons question number five what's the tomich number of iodine number. Five is getting very nerdy on you in the middle of this quiz halfway through what's the atomic number number of iodine number six. How many members were there in the group and sink how many members were there in the group and sink and question number. Seven constructed of polyethylene film laminated to cloth with a rubber adhesive. This tape resists curling and tears. There's off the road cleanly for easy application on rough surfaces three. M performance plus duct tape has what four digit number number seven question number eight sandy koufax number which was retired by the dodgers in one thousand nine hundred ninety two. What was that number number berate sandy koufax's number that was retired by the dodgers in one thousand nine hundred seventy two question number nine according to the commercial well. How many licks does it take to get to the center of tootsie roll pop question number ten translate. This roman numeral merel de c._c._c. x. L. v. i. here. It is again translate. This roman numeral d c c c x l. v. and the bonus question. What do all these numbers combined to make. What do you think all those numbers in order combined to make all right great great math quiz from old mike edwards. We'll be right back in just a second with the answers just to see if you figured out this equation of sorts here we go guys. Mike quiz thought this would be fine. Hopefully you had a good time trying to figure here it out number one. What's that rob zombie movie with the carnival workers and sadistic clowns. It's called thirty one. I never saw it but i do like some zombies other movies. I'll have to watch that at some point thirty one questionable to california area codes for san francisco and san mateo county. We're looking at four one five four one five number three very how old are jerry stiller and tony bennett their ninety two years old man ben stiller's dad getting up their old mister costanza ninety two years old number four. H._b._o.'s oz had eh many seasons. The answer was six. There were six seasons to h._b._o.'s is number five. What's the atomic number of iodine fifty three five three number for six. How many members were in the group n sync similar backstreet boys. There were five number seven constructed of a bunch of crazy stuff. What is this three m performance plus this duct tape. What's the number. There's a number on the package eight nine seven nine eight nine seven nine very tough unless he used that stuff all the time number eight seventy colfax had that number retired by the l._a. The dodgers in seventy two what was it it was number thirty to number nine according to the commercial. How many licks does it take to to the center of tootsie pop that would be three and then a crunch right from the three licks and number ten translate this roman numeral we had d c x l v and that would be eight forty six eight forty six the bonus. What are the answers combined to make figured it out tada. It's pi three point one four one five nine two six five three five eight nine seven nine three two two three eight four six according to mike that would be pie and that's what you came up with. If you put all those numbers in a row you had pie as it goes on and on and on great job mike. This is a fun quiz. Thank you so much for writing it and sending it my way. If you guys want to be like mike incense stuff my way. I'd love to see your content and for the show and you want to write something matthey and nerdy. Maybe you're like. Hey you've never done an episode on battle. Bots and i'll be like all right. I guess i could do that <hes> so just send me some questions. I'll make sure to record them or quiz somebody on them in record that and we'll do that for you in the near future. There's a certain topic you want. Let me to do guaranteed on the show. Leave a big patriots on excel sheet. If you donate five dollars or more over on patriot dot com slash trivia with buds and we're cruising through there. I still have to do some topics here that i've missed in months past. We have grease to american girl dolls what we do in the shadows flight of the conchords superstore door. I'm excited for that one because that shows coming back animal house dog breeds college football mascots goosebumps bruce willis movies back to the future trilogy buffy the vampire slayer sitcom weddings and masked wrestlers so those are just a few of the picks from different patriots subscribers. If you want to be like those guys and gals and you want to jump in just donate five dollars or more on patriot dot com slash trivia with buds all right guys it's time for the question of the day the question of the day brought to you by funky monkey designs of sandy demons california and here's the question i try to make it math related so here it is who starred as the teacher in the math movie stand and deliver who was the star of that movie stand stand and deliver tweet me your answer. Ryan buds are email ryan buds at gmail.com to be eligible for prize and if you want a prize of your own. Maybe you want to print a custom t. shirt or a banner or a tablecloth or a hat goto f._m. Designs inc dot com tell them bud -centia and get to design yesterday's question. The answer was helena bonham carter who is married to timber from two thousand one to two thousand fourteen. I think it was and yesterday's question of the day winner was riverside's owned carol crowley. Thank he's so much carol for sending me your answer and i'll send you something cool in the mail. Very soon you're tribute team named the day is kitty pride and prejudice kitty pryde from x. men of course and pride and prejudice this from literature katie pride and prejudice guys. Thank you so much for listening to the show. Thanks for telling a friend about the show and we'll see tomorrow for more trivia with buds cheers <music> <music>.

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Gilbert and Frank's Amazing Colossal 6th Anniversary Show: Part Two

Gilbert Gottfried's Amazing Colossal Podcast

1:02:19 hr | 8 months ago

Gilbert and Frank's Amazing Colossal 6th Anniversary Show: Part Two

"Hi I'm Joe Firestone. Have a new podcast out now called decisions. It's a show where I talked to guess about the last twenty four hours of their life. They're still alive. They continue to live but the last twenty four hours before they recorded. That's what I'm talking about and talking about little decisions that they make throughout their day And I I really think that little decisions like whether you choose cue tips or cotton balls. I think these are the kinds of things that really Make make the great people great. So that's why I'm talking to them. We're GONNA have all kinds of guests like dentists and Comedians and musicians and you know children under five. It's going to be very good so subscribe now wherever you. Listen to your podcast. Ooh ooh. Hey It's Gilbert Godfrey and we hope you guys got kicked got up part one of our live amazing colossal six anniversary show with Richard Kind and Mary Lou Hannah as well as some some bryce guest on video. Here's part two feet jury. No one and only Mareo ten tone the brilliant Paul Shaffer and even more surprise guests wounds stopping to wish us well enjoyed. Kill wait is that the sheep wrangling. You're talking about Richard. I have a surprise guest before you read that card. People love a surprise. Did you hear that gasp? Not Build not on the poster. He's been on the podcast. He's a friend. He's an emmy winning writer he is it Tony. Winning composer of the hit Broadway shows the full monty and dirty rotten scoundrels and tootsie and the band's visit which was sensational our guest episode twenty-three whereas he the Great David Yazbek is being just played. That seems song from Carmen Sandiego. Which is the thing that's going to come and sing a song but let me just say something. Schmooze for a few minutes. I can remember Forrest Tucker Gigan- how I wanted to alert. Everyone here to remind you as a public service request some Tupperware some. Doggie bags because Richard kind is going to take all of the leftovers home if Gilbert Gilbert. We'll take the rest of the recipe that was that's how it was going to end the joke the other job. I was going to tell which have not crafted yet has something to do with the Jerry. Colona virus there are no other audience but yours would get that Jerry. Colona briefly just stinks. It's possible it's possible it's spreading the hell remembers Jerry Colo- just anyone from Richard Song now. This audience pre prematurely old Jews basically and some who are not prematurely old. I'm sitting at a table full of Correctly old Jews. So I'm going to go over there right and yes you are. I won't be needing this. Okay David Yazbek Ladies and Gentlemen I was inspired to do a real Jewish song. I have no idea why tonight for me. Long time ago. Ternal side of my family. My ancestors came over from the old country and populated areas with exotic native. American names like Patrick. Sioe CET ISLIP Oakdale Save Ville Massapequa Massapequa Park Amityville Kopech Babylon Babylon too little L. I. R. Joke. So this song is basically A. I have no memory but I do have little flashes of Visual Memories from Long Island Jew Jewish type stuff in the summer of Summers Sam of the serial killing and New York and there was a great time and New Yorkers lived in terror was a hot summer. It was it was miserable. People stayed inside but they finally caught him in his name. Turn out to be David. Berkowitz and the whole mother's side of the family was like that is not good for the Jews that was their entire takeaway at the same time. There was a commissioner of baseball named Buoy. Kyun and his whole thing was. Is it good for baseball? That's all he cared about supposedly anyway. This is sort of a mash up of those two things. It's called Sandy Koufax and the only thing that matters about it really is a course. Richard Karn is going to help us out. When we get to the chorus. I would like you all to sing along toward the end of the song but also watch me their cues. I'm going to ask you to stop at one point. I'm going to deliver a great joke. Is it hard to sleep underneath? A he burned the Iran to par to relate when you masturbate difficult to view the patty in the plastic grapes. Novelty SOAPS IN ASSORTED SHAPES. Up in the favor with the metric out drapes. Everybody can hear you scream. Visit good for baseball. There's a good for the Jews. Good for baseball is good for the Jews. Good from baseball. Is it good for the Jews? Good for baseball. Is it good for the Jews right to choose the electric fuse for your undo us? The right to explore when the triggers saw on your Banglore torpedo when the dugout. Seventy pitchers dead still remembers. What the was it the liver in the wedding bed of the designated Hitler. I'M GONNA sing. It again is a good joke of the designated him. Is it good for baseball? There's good for the Jews. Good for baseball. Is it good for the Jews for BASEBALL FOR THE JEWS? Good is it good for the Jews. That's a story. That's the glory of five thousand years in the major leagues. So I'm wondering and a bothering what else can I go? Let me go. Let me go shit. I just remembered something. I wrote a song with Paul Shaffer in one thousand nine hundred eighty four. Something Paul's over there. Incidentally do you. Do you have any memory of that Paul? It was something like it was for the spokes model of the year. It was like it was something like thank thank thank you you made my dreams come true because it was. Ed McMahon it was Star search. Thank you and all you had to do was reach for a star and this tab. You caught one if this chick tracy who won that year. We're pushing EDSELS. That's who would have bought one. Thank you at anyway. Back to the song that's immoral. That's a coral of dozen years on the ill. So I'm waiting Lacombe pondering else could I go let me go? Let me go. And it's hard to sleep underneath. The he underneath the heat by Monday to relate with your head on a plate dugouts emptying the scores tied. Who Still Remembers how the picture was it. The pill with the cyanide was it the pretzel with the cheese inside good for baseball good for the Jews. Good almost for the good for the Jews. Good for baseball. There's a good for the Jews. Here comes a joke for big and you can throw out the food. You can cancel the band because the MOYLE got a boil on the meat of his confirmed that you sing along good for baseball. Is it good for the Jews for baseball? Good for the Jews. Good for baseball is a good point for baseball. There's a good bit of the Jews. Is it good? Is it going good for baseball? Is it good for the Jews? Never GonNA stop D- David Yazbek surprise guest. Leave you're going to introduce somebody. I'm GONNA go work. The crowd cranks up to be a little right by our next guest aged comedian actor and yet another. Tony nominated for a former WHO's appeared on this podcast a record six times and somehow he still has a career. Please welcome to our our annual Christmas guest and our very own Elf on a shelf and a man who still haunted by unsubstantiated fag rumors. Larry is macro blow. Hello everybody well. How oh I love you. You're such you WANNA be homeless person. I'm sitting on this. Was that supposed to be? I'm offended. Joke private fuck it. Sit Down Ha-ha he can take it fads fag it. What's up you're all dead Jew. Hello Darling Oh yeah turn it around. The head is oh God well so it's nice to be here at the cutting room with Mary Lou. And you you know they could stuff you like a taxidermist and just put you there and the show would be the same. I just got back in Seattle. You know I know you didn't know because you have no fucking research skills a half. I did I was in Seattle. I did a musical called Bliss. I actually went out of town. You know I'm recluse. I don't go out of town. I turned it all down on Blake. Fuck you have funded Minneapolis. But I did go out of town to do this musical bliss and it was really really great but I gotTa Tell Ya. Seattle is the worst fucking city in our time. How fast get fucked of? Ill Pet motherfucker. They look at you when you say walk over here and the Metro passive behind me. I hate it. They're very sketchy. Scaring the homeless. Regressive they flail at you. I'm like no no no that doesn't happen here. It's coffee donuts an ice cream. That's all they fucking have. I hate that city I hate it. I will never and my husband lives there a lot of the time because he is the artistic director of the village which is not theater. We did the show and I hate that city so I can't bear that city. I'll never go back. Isn't it awful? I also passive aggressive and the theater was unprepared. They just fucking blow so glad to be back. I love doing this show but I can't tell you how happy I answer back. I don't WanNa go anywhere. I'll let David Yazbek ever wrote me a fucking musical. And he was going to Minneapolis. Go Fuck Yourself. I'm not going away anymore. Not Go anywhere for you you know. I saw tootsie three times three times. Yeah that's no one has any taste you know. Look at what still running sometimes. You don't fuck it. I don't know. Don't Test Me David. I'll come. They're a break your glasses into Mr Canto. Yes Oh where are you? Oh I'm like I'm like Audrey Hepburn and wait until dark. I can't see the drugs are in the dog. I Love Euro is. I'm looking at a red light. They're like you're doing the tech. What what is that doing the Phil Donahue thing? It's more interactive donate to anybody. I'm still up here okay. You've done six Christmas shows. I thought it was seven. But it's six six of Christmas shows are arguably our most popular shows yeah arguably and I think we outdid ourselves with the twelve days of Christmas. We really rarely which was my lovely wife side last year. I didn't even want to attempt it but you guys were absolutely wonderful. Do you. And Richard Want to settle the Mr Magoo dispute. You really like that. You're out of your mind and your at first of all the first five minutes when he comes to the theater is the worst thing in the world. It's all of a sudden it's charming and the music is Great. And it's it's it's he wrote a short novel and it's a short telling thing fantastic. Okay Stop Back. Back worse show. But they're all hand- for each hand was planned in the world is terse and I don't understand humor who was on drugs to hire Mr Magoo with. I started really really my favorite Christmas specialist a little drummer boy by racking bass okay. There are great compare really because the mother and father at the very beginning the desert bandits in the Middle East the desert fucking band. It's kill the mother or father of the little Jewish boys and they throw a knife at one of them and then they burnt and their puppets there would so they go and fucking and it's just devastating and that little Aaron who is so angry too and he yells at a magical drum and he's he's eyebrows which just pointed and he's so he yells at like the camel and the little sheet to dance. You Bitch you fucking land so pissed with your rack. Grill just brutal. It's my favorite. And then he sees even at the when he sees Jesus he still up the fucking gift. You still angry. It's the best one. It's my favorite wall. Okay that's it but I understand off. I like Santa Claus is coming to town. I can't frosties bearable well. We've known greenhouse at the little girl the entity gets out. How hot we. We both had the same anger. Oh with us for good not in Seattle. What they use it on people straight. Yeah with with the story of Rudolph the Red Nose. Ring saying this fucking twenty years and I'm GonNa tell you something it's a story because he's porn you know this bit. I mean actually going to do it again but all right so he's spoiled with the little red nose right and the mother is sympathetic. The mother of my son and the father is like no cinema is GonNa read knows. You're GONNA wear this shit on it and you're GonNa like it and he said lower. You're gonNA wear this shit your dose. It's going to have what he's really saying. No son of mine is going to be a little faggot. That's what he's really saying. And then he goes to those reindeer games with carpet fucking gym teacher with a baseball cap talking. We'RE GONNA buy Rainier game by tomorrow. And then he flies. He's better than everybody and then hit. This knows the shit comes off. And he's all glowing and they all panic and like like he got out of the shower gym class. It's all there it's all there and then Santa it's like Oh too bad. Take off to really. He still doesn't have a good take because he sucked same sex radio. I don't get it and then he may turn the dentist. Who was like? I don't WanNa be I WANNA be a dentist and they go off together. Where Coppola of myth like to fags skipping through the snow. It's ridiculous then. They go to the island in this fit toys and did the little girl with the what's wrong with her she's doesn't have a vagina. I have no idea withdrawal and they see that Jack in the box they like to change like. Oh Box Charlie in the box off. Let go of my tie. Ooh If you ought to stay on the on the misled as you getting mood. Razor one is the island of a gay bar. It's a big game. It's the fire island of misfit. It's true I tell you this for twentieth and the New York Times like you're a little fucking late you stupid asses and then at the end saying he was brutal to them and then it's like it's foggy and he's like ooh. Rudolph with your nose so bright. Won't you fuck you saying? I'd like you humiliated me my whole life crash and burn you fat number twenty years. I can't believe you still have to reaction but it's it gets more and more relevant because of what's happening today. What's happening today with all the kids? You'll kill you get angrier each time you tell it to do what am I today. What do you think what did you think of Renee Zellweger winning the Judy Garland. I'll tell you I have a mixed bag with it but I think I thought her acting was quite good. I really did. I thought she was very active or close ups. Great the movies not good. But she's well first of all she comes on stage. They don't even know she's drunk or she can't sing and they start throwing scones and crop etc because they're in London but they're throwing food and weight shifts even open your mouth yet. Do you remember that scene which he's drunk but you know it's very weird but I have to say this. She doesn't sound Michael when she sings. She doesn't move like when she sings so that was a problem for me but good for her for making the effort to want her singer. Oh chip because you definitely up emotional moments while she was singing thought even though it wasn't anything like our because they give an Oscar to someone who lip sync half it's fucking performance in Bombay and rapid city. And I don't understand that I'm sorry didn't like it didn't think it was good and you don't how do you give someone an Oscar for lip? Second Half Your fucking performance look at look at says he space second Beverly Dangelo and coal. Miner's daughter that's that's that's when you when I wanna see someone really do their shit. I mean I get no what sounds like. You've garland except for me but that's not the point sunken before you do it before you make the crowd happy. Here's a quick question for all three of you about Gilbert Oh three actors on the stage and this has come on a couple of podcast recently. Do you think in your opinion. We'll start with Richard. Move down the couch. Do you believe that Gilbert could play convincingly play a serious dramatic role rich. Yes yeah I suppose so? Because I've been hearing him do imitations. He is absolutely in the moment and can mimic what that emotion is. I don't think he feels a thing but I believe that with that. He is such a good mimic that he can mimic honestly. He could mimic the intention and the whatever the emotion is. Yeah and you know when you see that the I think it's great that it's three hundred episodes and it sort of makes me cry but this whole the whole podcast made me cry. Because when they had on. I think it was Eddie. Munster who who's decatur place power tragic and I go and that's around maybe a couple of episodes before so. Why would you do that to somebody who can't help it? He was a kid. He can't help being Eddie Munster. This is what he did and now that's all he knows about. Why don't you going to pick on him and you? Don't you treat him with such glory? And that's what's amazing about the PODCASTS. There I mean you give verbal blowjobs to every one of these actors true and I believe that that is inherent in Gilbert Godfrey so yes I do believe their emotional wonderful answer miss you. Okay Okay I. Now that I've met. His family is beautiful family and wife and the kids and stuff. Okay I all. I don't even think he's half to Mimic I. One hundred percent know he could be a fantastic dramatic actor and I hope you get the opportunity. No question about it and that just mimicking somebody. Which is fake. Okay Maher and I didn't get my verbal blow job but that's okay. Mario same question. What was the question again? You're GonNa make me do this again. Put Gilbert where he is so inclined to be able to pull off a dramatic partridge dramatic role the fact that he works as an actor unbearable to me. I lose sleep off. No I do think you because I've seen him walking on the streets like WanNa be homeless person and I see him in his downtime so when you see him in his downtime you see that all that bubble flatten out and settle like a bad bottle of Champagne. And you you you you a seriousness. Oh yeah he up. I don't know if you would want to do it. Or if you would actually go like go there and dig deep. If you'd want to do that I felt like Stella Adler this but I absolutely think you could do it. Yeah I do I do. We're we're sad clowns. I don't believe he could do a play whilst he would go off book constantly and be late he'd be tired of it by the third. Rehearse I think deal Larry David wanting to bail though you've been doing this same act for forty five years so who knows? It's exhausting. I just did this musical and I haven't done a run in a long time. I'm telling you I'm old. It's fucking exhausting. And even even when something's really great you get you get bored. It's like groundhog's Day it's like I can't believe a fucking doing scales. You're getting there you go. Oh my God I can't believe it but when I'm on stage I don't feel that I don't feel every night. The audience is so different. Yeah comedian to myself that what I'm saying it's a different show every night because the audiences so but you see a good show go on Thursday because everybody has rested up a little bit or Tuesday because they've had the rest of the Tuesday's tricky though. I think the twos is going to be good and sometimes people just like going to the gym on the gotTa gotta go. I gotta go gotTA GO GOTTA GO. I gotTA GO. You GotTa get there and you get sick but if you are you grow to yourself you do the same thing when you lose the laugh on something after so many times you look how did they tortuous. I'm telling you you tort as a comedian you torture yourself with. I always say the ride. Home is the worst thing in the world. Because you relive what? You've just under two hours about splitting it or do that. Oh my God. Why wasn't that concentrating? Why did I smile during that Mr Cantona Richard Mentions Gilbert's art of mimicry. This is a segue. Oh okay all right. Well we'll help you. I hope I remember this because I take my geic hardaway. Just one Gilbert to help with the setup. No well yes I'll try to. Hello I'll I'll I'll I'll try to q. Him no I liked how everybody. I'm Mrs Norman Main Op James. Mason for me congratulations. I assume dramatic just in time. This there needs to be formal. I know merced Steve. You Gentlemen on a first name basis. I need to Joep. Yes that's it. That's my speech. I needs a job. It's not just trauma. I could do comedy as well. Something somewhat nomin come on now. Everybody look the other way I. I'd like to sing a song for Gilbert because it's something that I think I I would sing at his funeral and since he won't be there. I hope I remember the worst. I have a look. I have an IPHONE Liza gay which may cause she doesn't know how to work it. But I think you can cume in my case I fuck up all right. Then I had been the stars of last Nicoletta the win those cold and satin layer and all big soft man that God. Ah At one you run off and undone gray beginning. You don't know what album all cray and UH good riddance Kabbah every truck beef Laron taffer hoping milk tomorrow. He might as just the live. Long man woman Oh Oh oh Live tonight I would have done it in another key but I had to lower. Liza gave me the corona vire. I drank some many of them. She just got her. I said how the lime lies Mr Canto. I'm back I channel. I have to stay in it for a second. I'm outside the call. Speaking of Christmas. Did I really got to calls being? I said speaking of Christmas. We gotta do it right. Bad News for Gilbert. He has to stand up. Come up we gotta do this. We are repressing. A greatest hit from one of the crystal shows a follow. This without it highlighted. Oh God we're in fucking trouble Gill. You're doing the second part on the page. You know that right his adorable this one all right he is. He's on the view. He's the stage manager of use. I know him very well. A So cute are stage. All giresse. Yeah I would. Yeah all right shit. Okay Oh Christ all right all right so this is a you're doing. Tony Curtis right yeah. I'm Tony Curtis and I'm Betty Davis after the stroke. So we're GONNA pretend that it's still Christmas time everybody in this up. This is one of our greatest hits. Wasn't it yes? Unfortunately you made all the money off it and I make. Let's do. Oh yes maybe. It's cold outside baby. It's cold sore. So you've already dropped by not you. You Watch your own. Listen better scurry. Beautiful Drake Moesha on my list. I'll take word to own movement. Say try how yourself so. Go baby boy scouts. Welcome how how. You don't know what this costs your lip flu Gov Faruk baby need don't you don't you using me talk you was actual kids. We made it. Mareo kids old. Oh my right. We will return to Gilbert Godfrey JR amazing colossal pod cash but first a word from our sponsor. We'RE GOING TO TAKE A. We're going to do something a little different here. We have some people here who have been on the podcast before you may know this lady right here. Who was laughing very hard at the last segment. Suzy S men from curb your enthusiasm cozy stand up. Take about I want to say. I'm a little drunk what I want to say. I was on another podcast not one. That's any interest or whatever and they asked me who I thought was the funniest comedians working and I actually said no shit. U2 Gentlemen Right here Gilbert Mareo who make me laugh more than anybody in the entire fucking works the truth about you for me. I always say you always. I don't say it but I say Yes cal now suzy. Can you tell the story about how we were both working on two separate? Hbo Special. Oh Yeah we were Gilbert and I did in nineteen ninety-two I think we both did. One night stands and we were on the same night and I fell. We were at the Durrell Hotel which now is famous for Asshole in chief. Whatever we won't mention his name but I fell. I was doing something and I fell and I scraped my knee and my boyfriend at the time. Not My husband who owned with right now but my boyfriend at that time swore that I had rug burns from fucking Gilbert and would not believe me for anything would not like. I swore up and down that road. I had not had sex with Gilbert but he he swore that my knee burns were from being on my knees giving Gilbert a blowjob. Suzy Asman we got a couple of other people here. Podcast guests original Saturday night. Live writer creator of characters like Roseanne Roseanne cloak curator of Roseanne Roseanne. Donna and Emily La Tele and the co creator of the wonderful. It's Garry Shandling. Show and a writer for curb your enthusiasm and a million other things. How many times you've been around with US three times two times two times number? Three's coming up. The Great Allen's wife Bell Ladies and Gentlemen Not Unlike Suzy I was on another podcast and I was asked who I thought was the two funniest storytellers and I told them. Richard Kind and Mary Lou. Hanna put that together. This is one great show. And when I can't get over all the time that I'm with you. Gilbert is Darah. I can't I can't believe it's been five years. And there was a sixtieth birthday. There was a dinner party and we went around the table. And we gave a toast to you. I think it was Paul. Shaffer who said that Darren is the best thing that ever happened to. You corrected him. I said No. No no Darah is the only thing that's ever happened to you. I'm thrilled to be here. So is my wife Robin Happy Birthday. Happy Birthday and congratulations. Let's see who else we have here. Another pretty accomplished comedy writer of Seinfeld and will and grace and cheers the legendary. Tom Leopold a few words. My friend I refused the cry. I refuse to cry you know. Where are you Frankie? I gave up my Ted. Talk to be here tonight. Which is I did it because I hadn't really worked it out you know. I haven't really figured out what was going to say at the Ted Talk. What is your question frank? Gobert you know a lot of people say there's no place to be bad demore and I think you you have. You've established a place and God bless you God bless you and love you love Darah okay. Thanks Buddy I love this table. Here's a man has been on the podcast three times. Very wonderful terrific guest. I think you know Ms Jackie. The joke man martling first of all. Thank you very much for the to our lesson in why I'm not as fucking famous as the rest of the role incredible very millions of years ago. I never got any act. Got Shit but men. Gilbert got stuck in some horrible show that was on some channel. It was around for fifteen minutes. And we're in Las Vegas and I don't know whether it's spring of the fall but Las Vegas is a beautiful place during the day but then it drops twenty or thirty degrees. We're doing this horrible show and dinner time. So we're in the trailer and I'm getting the full Gilbert. I got an hour of Gilbert Doing Ed Sullivan Cursing at Jackie Mason. Forgiving GonNA PISS MYSELF. Where exchanged jokes and is so great and finally. They say it's dinnertime now. We're the stars of this show so they're making steaks on the barbecue outside what it's like fucking thirty degrees out there. And the entire cast and crew are in line freezing their balls off waving the eat and we go out and go to the front of the line. And of course everybody's pissed off and the guy's making stakes you stake headquartered another sticking fucking Gilbert goes. Can I have another one? How my plate? You got the fuck out of there man. I Love I love we. We also have to Gilbert. Do you remember the first podcast while really the only podcast where a guest ever Fed? Us invited us into her home. But would that be why they was lemonade? Yes ice tea cheese and crackers out of three hundred shows only one guest ever invited us in and Fed us and that is legendary Barbara. Feldon ninety nine in the house. I I had to feed you because I'm not funny and when you asked me to do this show. I thought I feel very honored. But I was bemused that you would want to interview me and very nervous when the two of you be came in and then of course. Dora came in with her like angelic kind of persona and the afternoon. I remember it so sweetly because you were so dear and you are so dear and Tara is such a love and frank was wonderful and I thank you for the opportunity and I didn't need to be funny at all. You are thanks for being ice. Say Barbara still totally hot. Geez all right we're GONNA make Barbara because it's your birthday we're GONNA MAKE BARBARA. Give you one right. You know what to say you know. He likes the Oh man. What better way to cut the sentiment Gilbert and you could do much fucking better than Buddy Digest. What he meant to you. Comedian Buddy MINTA. What better way to cut the sentiment Gilbert then with the Roast Master General Himself? The one the only Jeffrey Ross come on what a party where else might I sixty nine with ninety nine? No expense spared. You got the old couch from rb. Weinstein's office I really enjoying this reenactment of last night's democratic debate. I flew in special for this so the joke is on me. I couldn't miss this for so many reasons. Darah and Gilbert or very very dear friend of mine the fact that they're together as a fucking miracle and I do enjoy celebrating it all the time the fact that Gilbert has children despite some of the things he said and done rep years ago. We talk about the dramatic actor thing for a second. I I did a dramatic part with Gilbert on CSI new member this Gilbert. Oh yeah by the way. Gilbert will never get another part because he's been recently meet tuned by Dolores Story Rio but we were on. Csi We had hours to kill in the valley was very hot and the beast story. I was doing playing dramatic roles as Comedians in dramatic role where I was poisoned by my opening act and Gilbert was that opening act and it was very serious but the beast story involved children so there were other trailers nearby with children. They weren't in our scenes and we weren't in their scenes but we were Thal then. They spent most of the day with tutors and their parents would float around. We didn't get too involved in what was going on with that part of the show but just within earshot. He would test to see who could hear him talking to me. Gobert would apropos to nothing. Just say big black cock see the reaction to any of the tutors are parents which is turn around fifty sixty feet away. But I'd say Gilbert Go. It was great but there was not enough big black. And now you have children when Gilbert. I had kids. He's the first celebrity people magazine. I'll put a million dollars never to take pictures somehow. Somehow you created this amazing life and you give us your friends your so much joy. A podcast alive show. Whatever it is Gilbert. When I go on your show and you come on my show I always no. It's going to be a home run and I couldn't miss this so Tara. Happy Fiftieth Gilbert. Whatever the fuck you are frank. You're annoying before we wrap up the show and we have a big finish. We want to introduce another show Biz legend. Who was kind enough to come down here and watch the show and support us a living legend. Mr Ben Vereen Gentlemen. Right here right here. I have been sucking balloon with Las Vegas. Did you know that with Mary Lou? Yes yeah we did. We did Chicago to get together. Ninety nine girlfriends ninety nine it was Tuesday. Yeah thank you your podcast then burst but you have to do it. Then I- beverage. No my first Broadway show. I was twelve years old was pippen and I saw you. It was it changed. My life changed my life. Thank you so magnificent. When those fucking hands came up I was like fuck my head so I think you're brilliant and I love you all that jazz your phenomenal and that you just magnificent. Thank you all. I had to tell you how I feel like Jerry at the telephone. Another legendary pop culture figure. Mason Reese Bowman everybody. Hey guys over here. I'm I'm the little guy that you can't see. Gilbert likes to hang out with me because he's taller than I am. So that makes me happy. It's a pleasure to be here. Thanks for coming out. Thanks for coming out. What a night. If only Gilbert if only there were a man in the House Aus- showman a performer dynamic enough to possibly close and cap such an evening. I can't imagine anyone being able to think of anybody. I would have to be someone who truly loved Showbiz and loves the spotlight. Somebody who loves Showbiz? What would he be a Renaissance Man Gilbert total renaissance man? He's he's a gentleman and a Gentle Man Ladies and gentlemen thank you first of all. I WanNa thank frank and Gilbert for giving me this spot in the show because my God no seriously to follow. His people is is thrilling and a privilege but frank said go right to the piano because the coach will be filled by the time you get on. So he said go and be like you're playing for. Bette Midler at the continental bass plank for Fagel as you gotta sit there at the piano with a towel over here Cochran. I'm happy to do that. I only want song so I gotta get on and off fast. I wrote this with the late. Great Culture Bara thank you. It's not my wife's favorite song she said can't don't you want to be known for anything else why. I said you know. Does Frankie Valli get tired of doing sherry. No does it every single time. So with that in mind humidity's rise routers getting low who quota to all souls streets the place to go and oh. I does the past and for the first time in his story stores Star rating and then rain and and man a man well. I'm going to go out. Golden the sale of Kim. There's so cute away. Slain slaying Darris Man. Well Tall Long Arc. Lean tough strong and me nother. She's single one man two. She took a half. She did what she had to do. Well See Jerry Rearrange. He's this guy so each and every woman and a perfect play news man as brain a feel store there. Ooh Ah to begin son. Don't you stain man man? Aw Rob stalled can mean man God his rating bed. Yeah thank you all to kill her. God Page Padre. Thanks everybody we're going to go to bed. Good night thank you guys. We cannot follow the Great Paul Shaffer. We're GONNA thank the cutting room Steve and Susan and Gerard. We WanNA thank again serious. Our engineers tonight for the podcast. Scott David Nick Pulse harass you. Are You Paul? Knew our stage manager Joe said how about for the Gilbert Godfrey Trio Julian? Joe mcgivney said Salzburg. We WanNA thank Allah Bell. Mason Reese Ben Vereen Tom Leopold. Jackie joke bed. Jeffrey Laws Susan. I forgot these wonderful people. Richard Richard Come on out. Richard Kind Great Paul Safer. Thank you all for coming. We love you. Food

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Ernie Kovacs Centennial Celebration with Josh Mills and Ben Model

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Ernie Kovacs Centennial Celebration with Josh Mills and Ben Model

"Hey guys as you know our entire catalogue including interviews with almost three hundred guests and hundred tump. Mini episode are now free just about everywhere where podcast download is true and as a reminder listeners who support the show by contributing to patron dot com slash Gilbert Gottfried get exclusive access to new bonus content early access to live events including an event. That's coming up soon. Macao behind the scenes photos and videos and more cool stuff and again. Thank you to everyone who supports us. Show on Patriae on dot com slash Gilbert Godfrey. We couldn't. I'm doing it without you. Well without some of you we could. But let's be honest Hi This is Gilbert Godfrey Niches Gilbert Godfrey the Free Gymnasium Colossal podcast with my co host rank Santo Padre and we are now part of Nice Star Burns audio network. We are that I mean we get free coffee totally different company. You take it up with that orbits tonight we are today. Well how I whenever. You're listening to Weei. Add Two guests with US tonight for our celebration of the one hundred birth year of groundbreaking comedian and broadcaster Ernie Kovacs and Josh Mills. It's a producer our our guide this and public relations executive and the four for most scholar and expert on the legacy and work pioneering comedian. Ernie Kovacs he also supervised provides the state of Colfax as well as the estate off his late. Mother and actress hits as late mother. Yeah you'll get called back. Swipe and frequent collaborator Tony. Winning singer and actress jurist eadie Adams. He recently oversaw the production and release of the box said Ernie. Colfax the centennial centennial. Edition produced the reissue CD. Ernie Kovacs album and he travels the country hosting and helping all have been celebrating kopecks life and work including recent events with with Monty Python legend. John cleese and Terry Gilliam. He also says he met her veigh villages one time and he was packing heat pain and I need shoot you. Ben modell is ain't producer. A musician can pose your filled. His story who created one of the first Ernie Kovacs Fan sites on the Internet. He's the archivist. Ernie Colfax eadie Adams collection and curated the Ernie Kovacs collection the DVD box sets foot short factory. He washout factors fucking shout. Shout factory may record a short factory. A false jilts saying thank you. And he's also one of the nation's leading silent film makes perks and a Cockney stop theme. Nobody accomplished manner yes yes appiano and performed live original scores on both the Ano and theater organ for hundreds of silent films which could be heard on T. N. museums historic theaters and and on numerous DVD. And Blu Ray release his as well as his youtube channel and he's going to blame me a sub live music from the Bela Lugosi version of Dracula. Even if he doesn't know it the edge as well. Did they show Josh Mills and Ben. modell thanks wow we. I was hoping you'd mispronounced my name. We got through that everybody else. Does I spelled it phonetically. Oh that's but a company is nobody can say that. I think I said earning cofactor about twenty different pronunciation with the V.. I'd say any Colfax talk about him to welcome boys. Thank you anything on Sandy Koufax no and another dodger but no now we. We've already done about five. Shows all five might just before you know. Just when Josh sitting talking to Josh yes John Torri reiterate. Josh is the son of the late grady atoms star of stage and screen in both big and small and he has all kinds of wonderful stories. But now that we mentioned it at least let's get the survey reveal a story out of the way we get down to brass tacks. Well my mom was in fantasy island episode uh-huh Good Star the world's most desirable woman. Yes and I did get to meet her villages and yes he was packing can heat. He did have a gun in a holster when I met him in his white suit from the show and I found it incredibly scary and weird so he walked around on the set they show with a gun he evidently he was afraid that people were going to pick him up and get him the reasonable fear. Yes now another story I heard is that people like looking at and they would would follow him into the Mensur Ron Friedman. We had a writer here. who run you around Friedman? Yeah a legendary character and he wrote a lot of fantasy islands and told us that people would follow IRV survey into the men's room to sneak peek. So that's one of the reasons. He carried a piece. I pardon me. Pardon the expression one of the reasons he carried a piece Yeah I insist that they looked as a twelve year old them off. I found it really disconcerting to meet someone who is that short short also would just add a gun on said it just. It seems so weird and he'd never looked like a stable character. No it wasn't a happy guy. No I I heard that you know. The two shows were fantasy island and magnum with Tom. Sellers Right Sally. Still Tom. Selleck was the biggest star and most handsome star in the planet and Irvy's villages was really angry angry. That Tom Selleck was a big star and making more money. And like you know city get more pussy. Well it's actually funny. You mentioned that because a friend of mine in the in the eighties or nineties used to work for a company that represented people for voiceovers and she gave me a tape. which I have to under and get to you where they made a cassette and sent it into the guy and basically basically said things like you know I can sing? You should let me sing more than he did sing. Dinah shore sure yes and he cut an album he. It's like a Karaoke recording this song about why do birds fly. Yes the holy fuck and I have this somewhere. So yeah he was. He was jealous of a lot of things. I think he wanted more and he couldn't believe that Tom Selleck L.. Look who was like ridiculous. We had so and him. That was a freak. At that. Tom Selleck was more popular with the ladies. Can you show me one other Ernie Kovacs tribute that opens with Bill. Ten minutes verbiage jazz materials caps off the year just fine Ben Musically speaking. You are a musician have you heard. Have you heard the musical stylings of only on the only only only on this show Gilbert's version treat I'm GonNa send you okay. Yeah it was always like I remember. Yeah like the birds singing this guy done the Oh love me. We still don't be on fire eight leave and it did. His version was worse. Okay here's something I wanted to do with you. Because you're you're an expert on the on the Organ Gervais right exactly. Go ever done that joke. I want to narrate a short movie. Okay and have you okay. It starts off with a farm armed boy working out in the field now. He spots a beautiful girl picking picking daisies. He's builds up the courage to walk over to her. She looks at him lovingly. Now now the evil land baron shows up. He wants to take the boys farm for him. Now for some unknown reason pay now in the big city. Uh let's see pets for the perils of pauline to the crowd felt land barren ties that girl to the train tracks up one boy rush to save her and he saves her at the last minute dates throw their arms comes around each other and the end. Which is the shortest movie? I ever play back when I do intolerance you know I assume like this music like cliche music. Saguenay that you'd hear in cartoons and I assume it was like back then and the silent movies. Everyone had a variation on certain notes. Oh Senate all came together like I always remember cartoons in kiddy shows the villain would show up and it would be oh Can't find it right. Yeah but I know I'm not. Yeah that was it. It's a piece called mysterious. Oh pizzicato was published in nineteen sixteen and then beaten to death. Look this guy and then and remember. This was the the famous and it became a hit on the radio. This striptease Muse. David Rose Awesome. Yeah yeah savage rose. Yeah Gilbert you to walk through intolerance Ben Okay. A- as as long as we're on the subject and we'll get to Ernie Kovacs. I promise eventually we'll see pivoting. How did you become a silent film? Authority and accompanist I went to film school. I wanted to make comedy films films. But they were showing the silent movies in dead silence. This is four William Rison I wound up playing for classes and he was a huge supporter. What I was doing but I volunteered to to play for the film history classes and was playing for two or three classes a week and and I met a guy named Lee Irwin who had been a movie organised and the nineteen twenties while he was playing the world's Oregon at the Carnegie Hall Cinema which is now Zenko Hall is but he became a friend and a mentor and I just try to absorb absorb stuff from him and I go and play for ever since classes and you know try to make the best? Yeah we talked about it we will have our listeners look up the name Liam K.. Ever legendary film scholar but a lot of books yes and he was my teacher to the school of Visual Arts stupidly. Too Young to appreciate at that age. What he was saying we? I saw intolerance read and sunrise. And all of that stuff. Yeah now Josh was telling us that. He actually appreciated the people he met. Now it's like there's so many times we meet people who are raised in show business and they go. Oh Yeah I was sitting there. I think it was like Humphrey Bogart Sean Barry More. I don't remember and so you actually. You would meet all you telling us all these stars but but you appreciate it. I was a complete comedy nerd and I loved autographs so I was in a really unique position where I could have my mom go onto the love boat and she would get not only whose mom wasn't on the love boat exactly. She was on a two parter. Marooned with John Astin and I was able to get autographs from you. Know Gavin Macleod. One of your guests we Aston to and then Audra Lindley and she was in. The show was Every shriver so I love this stuff I would make her you know. Get me any autograph where she was us now. Who's the biggest ultime star? You're no of that you may. Oh Gosh I time before I could can can meet them. They're all from the silent era. So they're most Mabel Norman. Yeah well that's not as good T- thing. Yeah no Mary Philbin. Yeah Yeah Mary. Yeah no never met any of any of those people. The closest I could say I had a couple of phone conversations with Diana Serra Carrie who was baby Peggy's silent silent film version of Shirley Temple. She just turned one hundred and one. Oh Oh so I was GONNA ask. Are there any silent film. Yeah former still with us as far as I know Diana quickly dwindling number. Yeah Yeah I just I anna. And what's his name. Who's still alive who who works in TV and his one hundred? Oh a norman. Lloyd Norman Lloyd and Simon Son Limelight talking. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Yeah but how did you both while we know how Josh. Let's start with Josh. Jeez oh Jeez. I'll go out for coffee because we are here. Mostly Salihi mostly and we'll get back to you. We know you Victor Bono stories some other goodies. We'll have some Josh Mills interludes. But let's talk about your your famous. Wait you play Josh Mills. interludes of this. I gotta here speaking the Guy Work. Take your calls important to us. Please stay on. Is that you so milk toast. Yeah Yeah I WANNA say to. The Josh is such a fan of comedy that he came bearing gifts he brought he. Joey Forman album with bill. Dana and Gobert. Utah me rogue alive. Aw Look Josh brought me. Josh gave me the Corey Irwin when Kory album and the very racist and antisemitic record Walter Brand Blacks and Jews. Thank you Steve asked. I'm a big Fan. I think I thought you guys would like it. So I and he does listen to the show. I love it. Yeah I listen to the show. Josh was my favorite guests until Ben came in with the rookie. uh-huh Zave ours. So easy Adams was your son. You did not know Ernie. That's my mom appears. Yeah it's going to be one of those nights when she sticks flying the go-to was indeed. Your Mom yes yes and we are going there. I guess it is it is. The train is rolling. Oh it's GonNa be a long ways Oh God let's do this again son of the atoms. Josh Mills Launching Utah the Great. He was great. I'd I'd like to see that movie daughter. No son so take us through it through what. Now you've come to the world of Ernie Kovacs logically. Yeah Authentic Syrup in the house from about When I was born in Sixty eight about seventy seven we lived in that the famed House on Beaumont? Drive twenty rule mouse. Yeah In fact when they moved in it was so big it had a bowling alley. Oh they took out. But I remember the famous Dan. The Ernie worked in which was very manly but very dark. Ernie was a creative genius but he also had a really super dark side to him. So the whole place was outfitted with like suits of armor and and duelling pistols and stuff polar Barron their stuff polar bear trap doors for the wine. It was it was very interesting but yeah I I did have a moment kind of going. Well wait a minute. My Mom. I know my dad mom are divorced. So that's different. WHO's Ernie off it and step sisters and half sisters sisters and sisters at weren't sisters and but mom left the den kind of intact his his? Inner Sanctum Yeah. I'll I'll throw one out there in one thousand nine hundred ninety six when semester alone be became rocky. He rented our house and I remember him coming up the driveway and I thought Oh my God you know I'm seventy eight years old. You're sylvester stallone coming in so he rents the house. We come back after the rental and The the The the wine cellar had a lock and had been busted and he drank all the wine. Oh Oh Rambo drank wine horrible slice alone rated Ernie Kovacs wine cellar. Yeah and in typical making news. I said to my mom like well. What did you do? She was like nothing I was like did nothing. She goes well I. He's rocky beat her up. What point did it dawn on you at what age my mom Zd? Adam Adam Starve stage and screen and her previous husband was a comedy legend well There were weird weird moments one of them being on Halloween. I was a huge fan of the three stooges the Marx brothers. And I wanted me and my the two friends. Josh Davis and Tony Davis who were sons of Jerry Davis who were talking about earlier right We dressed up as the Marx brothers and my mom got the great great idea to take us over to Groucho House and hang out with Groucho dressed as the Marx brothers on Halloween. Wow and I have this amazing picture in my house the three of us. I'm Harpo Joshes Chico. And Tony's Groucho and he's right next to US hanging out. Oh Man Jerry Cools. But that's when I kind of went. This is a weird life. That's magical. Yeah I I have friends who knew me much later. Who Go like his that? Is that you with Groucho. Yeah dressed justice. Harpo Steve Stall your answer. The door I know but I do remember. My Mom told me that was it Erin has white. There wasn't the wife does whatever she whatever she was she was there and not a nice lady. My mom did not like her very much now. Yeah 'cause Steve Still. You told the story that grouches there. He's like about a thousand. Yeah and he's just had another stroke and everyone's panicking Congratu had a stroke and she goes back and that was her reaction. I don't I don't think she. She had a very nice end either. I shot herself. Yeah she lived out on the street and shot her so show runs the gamut and she was staring at her chest and he's really. I might indeed probably yes now. I store quote. I think it was at the Comedy Museum. I saw quote and I'm pretty short. Was David Letterman. WHO said Ernie Colfax? I knew what to do with television before television knew what to do with the shelf. Yeah that's accurate yeah. I think it's actually in the DVD box at that we put out. I'm not positive but yeah I think He was absolutely right. I think Ernie was creating the media the visuals for television before anybody. He knew what was going on. It was usually a radio. Show that you would kind of take from radio and put on television. And you know there's cameras now or it was like a lot of people called it Vaudeville in a box walks. Yeah very much so well. LETTERMAN hired Bill Wendell to be as I announcer and Bill Wendell and had history with Ernie. That's our man going way way. Back history question. Oh Man Yeah Mr Mann and it's funny because movies silent movies already realized. Hey film this magical. You could do things with Ed. TV hadn't realized that no one. I think Ernie's genius if you kind of think about it is just. How did he know that this would work? I mean it it had never been done before. It's a brand new medium. It's really clunky machinery. I mean it's giant cameras. And he was doing man on the street stuff and things in Philadelphia nighttime beginning. Yeah whoa injured. Leading the audience see the crew which hadn't been done. He was satirizing the conventions of television while they were being invented. But yeah I mean there's there's a there's a kinetico footage we have From the show in nineteen fifty one. He's writing the camera Dolly from one set to the next. It didn't matter it was. Is it that that you know he was on TV. And you had to maintain this artifice. We're doing a show you know you're just having a visit with him. He happened to be in a television studio. What was your introduction to this Ben? Then what we know. We know Josh's but how'd you fall little different It was the the Best Ernie Kovacs television. Show that aired on public public television in nineteen seventy seven And those were compilation shows there half hour shows but might folks had been huge fans ends and they knew of my vapid interest in visual humor and weird stuff like that is a huge buster Keaton Fan and they knew I would. I would like this so that that was. That's where right I saw Kovacs and I went bananas. I was like Oh i. I've never seen anything like this but I love it when when I watched when I watch colfax stuff it's like I had a weird connection like when Disney re-release fantasia it was music and weird imagery and and people would get stone and watch it. I could see people on drugs. Getting into Bernie Ernie Kovacs. In fact Kaleidoscope Joe Serena I mean even even just even when he was in Philadelphia doing to our wakeup show they had to put something on the air and he would tape a kaleidoscope to an orange juice candidate that to the front of the Lens and just play records and spin that around and they're stuffed stuffed. There's so much like you're saying that you watch anything. We this was on television. It looks like weird video that you would see in. Soho looks like a nightmare sequence sequence he was he was very dark and a lot of his stuff. Didn't have a punchline. It didn't have even humor sometimes. There's a piece that he does the street scene. Oh yeah that's beautiful and it's amazing but it is not comedy it's seven minutes of people moving and telling a story in sync to the for the opening movement of Bartok's concerto for orchestra and he did an entire sketch underwater and there's one part where puts us a guard who his mouth and blows closeouts smoke right and you go. How the fuck do that? And I heard. He had a mouthful of milk. Put and correct. Yeah tank. He's in a tank. It was it was a it was a commercial for one of his commercials for Dutch masters and And then there's an episode of take a good look. which which is the Bizarro quiz show? We'll talk they. They run that commercial and they come out of any explains how they did it. You know he's down there holding his breath but the mouth full of milk or cream green tea. Yeah but the there was never an idea. Oh you can't do this. You know. Even at the beginning he would find some way with To to to make it look like the camera was pointed upside down so he could appear to be vacuuming the ceiling. Yeah yeah well we know Letterman was a fan and you and I were talking off Mike that there was. You know that somebody and I don't know if this is provable. But that certainly Merrill Marco who was doing a lot of the writing on the early Letterman show was Kovacs Person. Yeah there was an interview her influences. This is clear. Yeah We and she was on a panel that we didn't about two thousand eleven or twelve it The American cinematheque with Bob Odenkirk Jeff Carlin Bunch of people of but she was one that said Yeah. The writers all went to the Museum of Well it's the Paley Center now. Yeah and watched Kovacs and that's where they came up with a lot of. I mean seriously the the pencil at the things the three hundred sixty degree show that they did you remember that on Letterman turns as they revolve the image throughout throughout the hour. Or the Juanita on a plane He did a fourth anniversary. Show in flight. Yeah I think what else would i. It wasn't so much letterman but certainly all the writers would go over and watch the Kovac shows over and over and lift ideas from it and just sh- roussaly. I was watching a documentary and I didn't even think about this fat both Ruin and Martin's laugh Saturday night live both take a lot from Kofi. Ah You're definitely we'll we'll George slaughter who produced a laugh and his wife. Joey andbranch was part of Ernie's ensemble cast from nineteen fifty nine to sixty one so he's certainly hanging hanging around the set and they knew each other. ABC specials the later they're blackouts then. Laughing borrows liberally just faster just just faster and with with a different kind on a foot. They would just say that that that made it there. Yeah right and also monty python we We were just spend some mm time with John cleese recently. And we're watching a lot of monty python. And even though they didn't have that broadcast there was a lot of blackouts in in what they did in the nineteen seventies so in not always necessarily a punchline just they would just go onto the next thing in early would you often with Kovacs. It was the idea behind the whole sketch that was funny and not so much the execution or the structure of it but the concept of what he was doing was hilarious. Terry Gilliam says and you have this booklet. That comes with the the the box set from short factory from factory. Terry Gilliam Cut. The Kovac showed knocked me sideways into a world where the bizarre and the daft and the preposterous all lived happily happily alongside wisdom whitten perception. I had never experienced anything so visually absurd and inventive so you you've just You were with Terry Terry recently. Yeah we did. A Kovac centennial event in London at the BFI. For the Monty Python. Fiftieth Anniversary. And I got to meet Terry Gilliam. And and he couldn't have been nicer and couldn't have been more complimentary about Ernie and I'd Never mad magazine. And Ernie Kovacs were the things that are similar to work Kertzman later. Yeah that's how mcleese yeah And he was totally influenced by. It's funny we were talking about the blackouts. Earning used music. A lot of ways and python used Terry Gilliam's animation into kind of Segue from one sketch to the next bring things back and all that so the very co vaccine thing that I think that they were doing purely with Terry regaling because they had never seen it. So Terry Gilliam's kid in Minnesota Group into Ernie Kovacs on the national show obviously wasn't going to get the show from philly now. Yeah now yeah. Yeah but and look at look at the generations. Well it's the the way. The Sky is influencing comedy for decades to come. Did this day to this day. Yeah Yeah I I love hearing that sort of my mission this year. One Hundred Years Centennial. You kinda you gotTa Make Make Hay someway. I really feel like this is Ernie's you know year to kind kind of make sure that people remember him what what's scary and I mean Franken I I think the reason we do the show. Look people whole. Don't remember who the Marx Brothers and Jack Benny are. You're lucky if they remember. Paul Newman is point. Yeah sure yeah and I I was. We were talking to some twenty year old. And he didn't know who David Letterman was. That's how quickly. Yeah it's like you're gone for a week. So Ernie Kovacs. I mean if you're gonNA remember anyone you might remember Benny or Groucho Ernie Kovacs completely. Well the the thing that's crazy is that This year we've done all these events and I kind of started to reach out to people besides Comedians so I reached out to some musicians. Gerald Casale from devaux was a huge huge fan and we did a panel with with him and some other people. We also had Chris Stein from bloody. I was surprised to find these Kovacs fans and and a wilner learn and and it was really like Christine. Had this moment where we were talking with him we just. I was so lucky to grow up. In this era I was in New York and I was a kid and I just thought this was was like you know you're bringing me back to a moment and I think that is the interesting thing is that it actually elicit something and people that saw him at the time that You know reminds some of their youth or something that was really great about Growing up and what interests fascinates me about Ernie Kovacs. What fascinated me about old movies and that was finding out how they would achieve special effects and they actually get the hands dirty cut things and pace things and fat fashion fashion? Now it's like if you ask. How did you achieve this special effect win like pursed this Knob? And that makes fire appear and then I press this Button and a dragon comes off but then he was always working without a budget wasn't yeah or No budget and even when he was finishing the horse yeah and and then toward the end The special he was doing. ABC He had a bunch of but he was still doing shows with dime-store novelty toys. And stuff like that and kitchen utensils dancing around to ask savell. But that's a thing where you know Those music videos that he would do you look at those and you think oh they would just take it one shot at a time but they were actually sustained sustained performance takes so where every cut you see is happening in the control room. Which means he's got to lay out the entire studio with all the forks and knives and the blender and everything? The people have to be all around pulling wires right on the beat Turning things on and off and it was it's like you said because you know somebody made this thing As opposed to somebody click on something. Th there's something about knowing it was done by a human sure that it makes this more of a connection and and nowadays like the most you know a star wars or Jurassic Park could be made by a two year old on their phone. Yeah nothing whatever. And he's great things that He trusted his crew and he had ideas but he basically would say you do it and I think the crew really loved him and wanted to you work hard because they got to do these great things they figure it out exactly and they got to do stuff. There was much more involved than just. Here's a living room set. Now we're done. I mean they got to to play with toys and and have fun with. I think that's that's one of the main reasons that besides the money ends of the old overtime they're getting but they were. They got to be creative and make like you can get their hands dirty. He dumped water on somebody. Audition goats run through restaurants in Abe suits. I mean this sounds like the early letterman show. It's in some ways it sounds like Conan's first show on NBC too. Because obviously Conan I think has been on the record as saying that Ernie Needy on the back wall of his set. I oh I think on that show. Oh I think that's true very good. Yeah what was Howard. The world's strongest aunt tell our listeners. Venue might have to jump twelve Howard. The world's strongest man was a segment that Dernie did on a semi regular basis on his daily half hour show on NBC for a year and a half and it was a shot of a miniature and eighty would do the voice of how are the world's strongest and you'd see they'd manipulated of course with magnets the best they could with no rehearsal moving chairs around. And now he's GonNa play a game of pool and picnic and it was all eighties. He's e- partially improv improvise. But it was her voice as the world's strongest and people sent in gifts for Howard the world's strongest and Ernie would hold them up on this show and we got these gifts and then whoever was would get a you know a watch or radio in the mail as a thank you but people sent in gifts for the characters and now that you've mentioned let's get your mom your into the act your how. How did they? I mean she was discovered on. Arthur Godfrey's talent scouts. Yes absolutely and Ernie would sad like to take credit but he couldn't well his his producer reducer basically said Kita show in Philadelphia and said to my my mom like. Would you like to come down to meet this guy. You Know Ernie Kovacs and she thought Colfax Dan Colfax Kovacs and They went and she went down. There thought she was going to work for a couple of weeks and turned into a pretty good partnership and Ernie Ernie was married at the time and it was not going well and at some point they got divorced and my mom and Ernie then started dating and had a pretty pretty whirlwind love affair for quite a while. Now now that marriage to say it didn't go well. Yeah he's an yes yes she liked he. He gave her the kids for a while because they decided in court he was the better parent he eventually. Yeah think about that as a man. Dan was given custody of his kids to happen. And then he hands them over to her to just take care of them for the day and and he doesn't see them for another two years and the crazy thing is if you think about it he had to be funny for those two yes daily live basis leases racy. He had to. He was spending money on a private detective else. He would they would say they're in you know Wherever there in Texas? This he'd get on a plane after a show and he'd fly down there. Sorry we can't find him. They're not here he was spending. I mean Ernie had a spending problem and but he had spared no expense to find his girls. He was really just distraught about this so key eventually. They found them in Florida but he spent a long time and a lot of money and being very funny on dodge. I don't think he's. He's spending like millions on detectives. Yeah who are not doing a goddamn thing and they say say the way it was tracked down his mother She was sending postcards every day to different different areas. Have you seen these girls. That could that actually doesn't sound too far up. I you know Gilbert good job. We learned some time the first time someone sprays me now. It's an educational program. Well you know it's it was. It was very sad and you know the girls literally did not know how to use a knife and fork and they were you know. My Mom told me a story that when they would be in a car and police car would drive by. They would duck because that's what they're it's a miracle that he found them. Yeah you know. And they said like the mother was just sending out a postcard up any each and and saying have you seen they look like this. Have you seen and eventually someone said. I saw two girls unbelievable. Yeah Yeah and Ernie's mom you know. God bless her. There's there's many crazy stories about this Janette affairs by Loris Lebron and the TV movies Yes yes of course. Lebron is great in that and And Jeff Goldblum is great but it was a weird situation for my mom because he's got like integrate herself into a whole a new family. It's I mean she was fairly young. Yeah she was like not even thirty and she was basically all of a sudden a mom. What I love is reading reading in her memoir which you were kind enough to send on me Singapore song that the the way she talks about meeting him how she knew instantly. She got an electric charge of her arm when he shook her hand. The Ashby says there's a video somewhere you can find it online where she says. I'd never seen a person like that and I thought to myself. I want one of those as she knew she knew she she. She was from a very white bread. You Know Presbyterian Pennsylvania background and she's you know when I saw Kovacs. I'd never seeing someone with a mustache and a cigar and look like a gangster and she thought I want one of those. It's it's sweet to read in the book to their courtship to how he was he you you know lavishing attention on her and and lavishing money of course even when he had no money yes yeah he they. It definitely had a world. My my mom was married three times but even with my dad I knew that like Ernie was the love of her life. It was it was pretty apparent. What was that piece? He took her back to the the To the House to listen to a a classical piece all the the One she had trouble listening to after he passed because it was too. It was too heartbreaking breaking for her. It's not Eric saw is pretty which I can't play. Okay but don't ask me for citing make something up and say all right. I was a lover of Music Zac into his work. Yeah and again largely because if eighty who as she would often tell you was a juilliard graduate but she introduced a lot of a lot of unusual sort of music. That isn't you know Grand Canyon. Sweden rhapsody emplo and you start hearing some of this music. Turn up up in his shows there the this music by Shostakovich piece at he used a lot of his shows that you hear the ban playing even in the nineteen fifty two nine hundred fifty three broadcasts and and both their lives seemed to center at different points around cigars. Oh yes he he has. What was it old? Dutch master Dutch masters was his and then it was Muriel. Yeah there's the the story is that There was is a guy named Jack. Mobile S Q who ran a company called Consolidated Cigar Corporation. And they want it or need to plug the cigars and there was a worry. That Ernie wouldn't WanNa plug them because they weren't particularly great cigars. But you know Ernie smoke good Cubans and spent ten thousand dollars a year on flying to Cuba and coming back with five hundred cigarettes cigars And supposedly the story goes that they went to lunch and Jack Mogilev. You had a Brecht play under his arm. And Ernie Ernie thought okay. I'll pay attention to this guy. And the cigar sales were great so when Ernie passed away he knew. My mom was in real financial financial trouble because Ernie spent and we can talk about that but Will he said to my mom. We have this other brand mireal. Would you WANNA do that. And she. She said yes and that was incredibly successful. A lot of football games and boxing matches and stuff like that and he gave her a twenty year contract contract and in in commercial time when there was no such thing as six then in TV I remember and I I wonder how many boys use this commercial. Because she would go oh why new JEB pick one up and smoke it. Some you know any of the jingles. Unfortunately yeah. I don't know the lyrics. Can we go they. Don't you pick one up in smoke at some time. Nice that's IT and she boy she put a double meaning. Yeah Yeah Yeah. I'm sure cigar buying cigars like Corey and there were there were the murals. Were were targeted for women. That weren't they are. There's there there was some because I remember your mom invented a ring she did. She invented a cigar ring for women's that you could put it on on your finger so you could look feminine then while you're smoking patent us very proud of that. But I'll tell you. This is a very Gilbert Story Talk Talk about midget Dick Dick Part. Yes yeah okay. Okay my dad when I was growing up and going through puberty had a lot of playboy's penthouse in those kind of things and some other magazines and when I was looking at one of them They had something that said The ten most notable women and my mom was number ABC. That'll scar boy. Well somewhere between Angie Dickinson. Juliet prowse but I just thought. Oh my God I can never look at this again. Did you ever have the courage to bring that up to her. Ah Years later did because I in my brain. That's literally thought to myself. I was like do they send someone to the House I mean. How did it was five off? That's how I turned out the way that has to be beyond traumatic. It was it was it was a yeah boehner killer for the the crazy thing was did bring it up to her years later and I said Okay Mama I just I gotta ask you this and she thought it was one of the funniest thing I I thought it was she was she was terrific. She was just like Oh Josh come on. I was like what Chad Everett. Your House I don't understand. How does this work? We're we'RE GONNA do a couple of grill the guest questions. These are the questions from our patriotic followers and patriots patrons will will mix them in Luke. Simon has a question for Josh Gosh Being kind of on guard was Ernie paying attention to early European art cinema. Cocteau or truffaut. I don't think he could have seen it. It was it was still. I don't know that he might might have seen it. Maybe it's weird because it does look a lot like that but I don't know where he it might have seen it. I know he he was he was got exposed to a lot of culture as a kid. Yeah he he also heating fan and Yeah Chaplain Fan. But our house was filled with art and books and all sorts of classic You know was he into surrealism. Because you think that somebody like Marcel duchamp Oh yeah would appeal appeal to the whole show. Just Liz is a surrealist nightmare at you yeah Eugene did you see the silent shock. Yes yes yeah and they they wish also they said when in his early struggling days he almost died in. Yeah yeah well he got pneumonia. I he He had pleurisy. I mean you want you. Well no I mean yeah. He had gone to an acting school and was living on no money and and got really sick and they put him in a TB Ward Right. And he's watching people around him perish but eventually got and you got out. TB from that. I from being in the war. He was there for a good good eleven months and they said that was like a place where they put like derelict shack. He was thinking. I don't think he was twenty. I mean very young young and he had no money he had not graduated College and He I thought my theory is that he like Bobby Darin. I've got a feeling that I'm not gonNa live very long and I can see how precious life is and he literally lived. I mean on his tombstone is nothing in moderation. I mean he really lived his entire entire life. You know. He'll live forty two and they said that I think some acting teacher. Yeah living in the Sanitarium Herald vankirk. Yeah from his school drama or save dislike pretty much. Yeah you hear a lot of those stories to show business of people you know on their deathbeds where for people very sick. Who have this this kind of piff? Unie George Lucas's one. You know people who suddenly realized that I gotTa do it. Now do it now. Now or or or Garry shandling was another guy turning point saws on his own death but it It somehow I think everything's fires them galvanizes. Yeah and it really also made him not want to listen to authority or have anyone tell him what to do or how to do it or what was funny so he he really had an attitude of just like you know I'm GonNa live I'm GonNa Perform and I'm GonNa live the way I wanna live and everyone else be damned. I mean to my mom. Even I mean like you know. When when he died he was half a million dollars in debt? Three hundred fifty thousand from the IRS and one hundred fifty thousand from his ABC shows because he was the producer but didn't understand above the line or below the line so he he just spent and so I think at the end he was sort of needed. Never will I mean there were so many things he just lived his life lifelike. You know didn't WANNA pay taxes waiting for him when he get a TV deal or something and he did get money immediate it legal. Oh look I got money and spend all of it right away. We still have some checks of his. Will you'll see frequently kovacs serve enterprises cash thousand dollars. Nineteen fifty five. I mean he was taking out thousands of dollars every year just because he could and your mom was spending a to just not understanding understanding. Okay the money. The money's rolling in if he wasn't worried about it why should she. Yeah and then the bill came to they had they had business. Managers should have been watching. But you know to my mom's credit when she when he died she realized Oh shit. I'm really in trouble and she went to Ucla. And I have the book I just saw inspiring. She went Took courses on accounting to make sure she knew not to do it again and they said when he died a bunch of celebrities owanted ado telethon benefit and she wouldn't have any of it. She absolutely refused she. Her father was A very the guy that she she loved and he had a hardware store during the depression and the partner in the hardware store during the depression. Just just one day took the money from the till and left and her father basically said No. I can't not pay these bills and close up shop so he basically tried to make sure the shop shop ran and my mom said she learned a lesson that you just don't leave people high and dry you pay your bills you actually you know. Do the things you say you're GONNA do. And she refused used it and and luckily she was in a position where she could earn a lot of money and she just said to the irs when they came up the driveway. Give me some time. And I will pay it all back and they did and she took her decade but she paid it all back. I mean that's very admirable and to read in the book. It's heartbreaking to read. Her point of view of what happened happened that night in January. Sixty two That that you know they were at a party together. They were at Milton Berle party for they were at the wildest house exactly while this house and it was a party for The BERLES had adopted a boy illegal. I think yeah and so they left in separate vehicles and she got home I and yeah he he He basically told her. It's raining outside. You take The roles and I'll take the corvair which they had just gotten so hardly drink that the right plus. There's this other Ben will know this as well but obviously they Ernie had just finished a show with buster. Keaton Medicine Medicine in the last of three days of shooting that same day so I think he said he was tired. That day need didn't even WanNa go to a party now. He didn't any any. Oh my mom said at the end it was very dark. I mean he knew there. Was this impending bill that was needed to be paid whether it was you know a financially or psychically. I don't know so But she said it did get very dark but you know that night he drove home and you know had a single car accident and that was A. Nobody really knows what happened. I mean there's speculation the because he was guilty of trying to light cigars while driving perhaps he was reaching for a cigar or a match but he lost control of the corvair. It was raining and raining. The roads were slick and Jack Lemmon talks about Ernie was the worst driver I ever was in a car with. He was a terrible driver. He was awful. He'd always take chances. Says Carl Reiner actually said it to me that he was like just like he was barreling down all these streets in he would go. Jesus Arnie like you know. Slow down so I think he just had this abandoned and that he lived his life with that unfortunately caught up with him exhausted. Yeah I that night if you watched the last. ABC special which was taping. Neither neither December beginning. Janke looks really tired and it's not as strong as show as the other ones and you see. He's raised lagging. Yeah yeah so suddenly. He's gone just like that in an instant. Then you know your your. Your mom is is is numb. Yeah for months but she but she doesn't have the luxury of morning too long because she has to. Now get it together other very quickly money old together was it was about half a million but it was probably more. I'll tell you th there's a Ralph Nader story in here which I'll tell about a minute which is crazy but One of the things that was great about it is that one of your former guests on the show. Robert Wagner. I was friends with Ernie he'd been in an a movie sail a crooked ship with Ernie and Ernie had these gambling games where Ernie was a terrible terrible gambler literally could not win and when he died. People came to my mom well-known people and said Ernie owed me thirty thousand dollars. I'd like you to pay me. Oh and my mom just thought well. I don't know what his businesses. I don't know if that's true. Robert Wachner was the only one that came to her and said I owed Ernie ten thousand dollars. I'd like to give you ten thousand dollars and my mom said I can't take it. I don't know what are these debts. Were your mom was a classic lady. She was on the up and up. Yes so Sinatra and Dino and lemon himself who was very close to her eighty offered offered to as Gilbert said offered to do a special telephone anything to help her out but she had too much pride as she wouldn't do what she wanted to do it on her own so she started working being like mad she did and she was lucky because she could play places like Vegas and she could make a Lotta money very fast. But it wasn't artistically something. She wanted to do she she literally just say what are you paying. And that's how she would make her decisions and I heard with Ernie Kovacs when he needed money when he realized I owe oh so much he would do just about anything but the idea wrva series. Yeah he couldn't stand yeah absolutely he he didn't like convention and he didn't like sitcoms. My mom actually didn't like it either. We'll we can get this later but yeah she was offered the role of Bewitched that was that was William Asher and She turned down. She thought that was you know she's been all these years doing nightclub acts and you know doing these variety shows and thinks she didn't want to do and she finally just thought well. I need to do what I wanted to do. And so she wouldn't do a Sitcom one part. She took in a famous movie. That comes up a lot not on this show is. It's a mad mad mad mad world which is obviously now we. I'm going to ask Ben who who might know Josh and I were talking about. Before we turn the MIC on their speculation that Kramer approached used her and Ernie package deal for the Mr heard any evidence but you look at it and you use what I can't help thinking that it would you would have been planned for the for the two of them in just a chemistry that earning an etihad together as a team which you see in the TV shows. They're they're hilarious together. He was such a star Star at that point. That if you're making that movie and you're putting all of these comedians. You almost have to offer a partner Ernie Kovacs and so so Melville crump the dentist places. Advices Caesar was probably and we'll we we can reach out to some other people. Try to get confirmation on this but it is slow. Burn of Melvin crump great moments audits. Oh yeah she's on the screen with these giants. Every one of them. That was made not too long after Ernie died and she said that was the first time I laughed about a year after Ernie why I always thought like like that madman. World's never as funny as it should have been right right but I always thought boy they should have made a making of madman. Probably wouldn't even the Freberg commercials the drivers I good or yeah. Yeah well I think that You know my mom said you know. I was around every comedian that I ever could have wanted to be around. It was a perfect scenario. Oh and even there in palm springs one hundred fifteen degrees. I mean it's it's miserable and they're all having a great time. She'd never met Terry Thomas. She became great friends with him. Spencer Tracy was Nice Nice to her. Yeah Yeah Great and did she have. She had loads of stories about all the comics. Yeah and what's great is we also have I have about two hundred pictures. My mom took on the set. That no one's ever seen Oh man and she had this it was called Minna knocks miniature camera by camera and so have all these great pictures of you know Spencer Tracy sitting around and Jonathan winters. Wow those are great and it always seemed like I'm sure the the biggest slash were off camera. Yeah I mean and the other thing was my mom said you know everybody was part of it. I mean the stuntman. This guy carry lofgren was like loom large over this stunt guys with a real stars at this movie so they everybody was a part of it. Everybody was sort of like you know stuck in this very hot part of California California where it was one hundred and fifteen degrees and they all got together and hung out. Yeah we will come back to Ernie. We're going to do one of those Josh Mills and Ben Modell interludes Loyd. Okay get ready. There's a story of now. Josh is tied to the train now. Josh falls in love with the hero Josh Porno MAG now Josh. Josh breed takes a job as a stripper burns. Joshua's turning some interesting colors. This josh interlude will be about. Where do I wanna go your mom dating Peter sellars? Wow yeah she was doing a show in London and she had a A show called. Here's eighty nine thousand six hundred your and she did a tape to show in London and she went out and Pete Peterson's like blondes evidently gently and they went out on a date and he took her to skiffle club of all things. So Lonnie Donnegan skiffle. Yeah and my mom just that he was very kinda dull he wasn't really Peter. Sellars the story I always heard about Peter. sellars was that he he. If he wasn't in character he didn't exist. Yeah Yeah I think that was the case he'd like head. There was nobody there. If he wasn't a character here I think they only had that one date But yeah she she. She was always fascinated. She ran in a in a crowd. With a lot of interesting he facilitated headed by Comedians Pity she loved comedian. She thought that was the greatest you know just to laugh was the best. She loves silly. Anything was silly to read that book her memoir the people all I was saying this to you before she worked with everyone. I mean Lucy and Desi and and Gore Vidal and Leonard Bernstein and Groucho and and just then and the name aims just kept on coming. I think she did everything. She was super talented and she was good looking but I think also she was the most fucked your your there was the ninth most fuck woman in the world. I want you to remember member. Juliet prowse no but she the Bring back those no hope. Does I think frankly you know. People really were rooting for her. I think that they really wanted her to six. And so she you know in and she worked really hard. I mean she worked when I was a kid. She was working all the time on the road. She'd go for two. WHO weeks three weeks? I mean she was still paying off debt in the nineteen seventies and any stories about working for the mob. Because it comes up in the book well a couple She never had a problem with the mob. Loved them they're all mob clubs One of the stories is that She went went to one of the for. She went to a boxing match in Vegas and it was one of the first closed circuit camera events and she goes up to Johny Rozelle who she knows very well and she goes Johnny and he looks at her insist GonNa wait. Could stay away. Don't and she because she said I was so hurt. I couldn't figure out. I was friends with him. He didn't want to be seen with me. The boxing matches over the turn off the cameras. He comes up to her. Goes what are you doing coming up to a guy like me. There's cameras here all over the place you don't WanNa be seen with a guy like me. You people know who I am and my mom thought. Oh my God he was looking out. Offer me why he was actually worried about what was going to happen to me. While so those are the moments where I was like only crap because we always talk Franken. I talk about this. These celebrities would love working for the mob. I don't think it was if you weren't a celebrity. I don't how great it now but there's another crazy story. There was a guy who had a This is is weird. He was a hairdresser in Las Vegas and his name was Z.. Marian and he was at one time married to Connie Francis but well in Vegas is he would do every celebrity female celebrities hair dying. Carol mom whoever was in town and he came to my mom and he said I want to open A hair salon at CAESARS. But they won't let me. Would you do a favor for me. And she said what do you want. And he said I'd like you to go. I think he was Detroit. I don't know for sure and sing for them at like a social club. And she said Okay and so she was going back and she did it and it was a night at Sunday night with the family night with the wives and the kids and the whole thing she sang talent Italian Aria and Lo and behold is he. Marion gets his salon in it Caesar's and he did it for the mob mob mob. Run good stuff. Yeah good stuff. Here's a question for you Ben. Oh boy from Josh. Chambers Gra Ben a great work on the Keno Edison box. Oh some fun gems in there. What is one classic silent film film you would like to either re score or perform live? it's hard. It's really hard to pick There's so many I get this. I get this question a lot. Like what's it's your favorite film. I don't really have a favorite phone. I'm glad he liked the Connecticut on well. How about this instead? He says then. Also for Ben what is his opinion of the nineteen eighty-four remix of metropolis. Oh Freddie Mercury not my cup of tea there are some people who who really like it But there's always been attempts for for decades to make silent film more interesting by putting more contemporary music on it and sometimes it works but a lot of times it. It doesn't necessarily mean it's all a lot of tickets and people saw it and now a lot of people know what metropolis is. But it didn't usher in a new era of going to silent movies. How did you feel about the new Dracula Dracula score? The it's well. It's it's Philip glass so once you hear a couple of bars you kinda get it. It's the same thing over and over And it was done a bunch of years ago and that's I mean a my interest in trying to do a score which I did this year and last year and a couple of places on theatre Oregon. Has that the original Dracula is a great film. But it doesn't get shown all that much and part of the problem is absolutely new music in it at all except for the opening titles which has music from Swan Lake because when you think of Vampires Yeah and and so there are these gaping holes. Where as a as a moviegoer you expect music to be there? But there isn't it's and so what I what I've tried to do. Is I've done a couple. I mean I don't know if I can impose on piano but just to just to lay in little bits of music here and there to support the emotions on screen so you're just not listening to Lucy. Breathe grieve yet. Don't we phrase taste. I don't I don't I mean it's not it's not going to sound like much without the film it's okay. We know the film very well. Just something simple underneath. There's there's that moment when I see Dracula's wives and then we cut to this wide shot and these three women in a serial gowns just sort of walk quietly for several seconds and you know just just just trying to find something that that supports and also keeps your ears occupy while you're waiting for something to happen. Although at times in Dracula when it's silent it's kind kind of viewer to yeah. I don't play Walter Oil music but there are definitely places where where leaving the silence they are works and it it was just a part of it was the technology somebody has told me. Oh well Todd Brownie wanted it without music but I think that It was universal. Pictures was kind of elite the game and adapting to sound and even if tod Browning had wanted a score I don't know if they would have been able to to to do it and even I think Frankenstein also has almost zero zero music or hardly any at all. Isn't there some Swan Lake and Frankenstein to or they're brighter Frankenstein or one of them. I think somebody mentioned to me at a show that the mummy has the the same is the same. Yes if you titles for for the the mummies the same the same thing. What what I you know that that theme team right sounds like Harry Potter? What I remember from all of the Forties Universe is Hans J solter And it was like he was always it was the Wolfman transformation as well as a million other monsters they use and it was that that got that TAT TAT tat. That that that that and And they were just reuse a lot of music and sometimes it would take stock doc. Music from the silent era and drop it in in in a lot of 'cause it was already written and they didn't pay anybody. What peace do you love to play when you're accompanying films? I mean do you prefer I do Something like city lights or or the general or For me it's like it's more about the WHO's in the audience and where I'm doing then then the film itself off so if You know a a an auditorium full of fifth-grader seeing Buster Keaton's one week is almost as just as exciting as getting to play a something at the festival because people are getting to see. What's on screen? It's not about me. Percents an example of of of anything. Anything eating yes. Something you'd go play for one week or our steamboat. Bill ooh Nice okay. All right the star. They're starting loses his girl. The all this money and he's out on a dark rainy street with a bottle abuse. Uh by Jacko in a movie with your mom I could picture in my head. Dan Sorry about that movie picture. The big picture. Your mother being picked. Cash the ninth Walkman Standing gain the poor. It's dry you don't you feel better. Now SORTA Kinda. It's like all you win that everyone wants to fuck my mother. uh-huh okay John. One one for you from Michel Foucault. He's one of Mine Gilbert. Your mother was instrumental. I don't WanNa question from some Guinea. Your mother was instrumental in the preservation of footage from from both hers and Ernie's careers when you first started becoming familiar with the footage yourself. was there anything shocking or surprising that you saw. I think we covered surprising. Yeah but something you found in the footage. That wasn't Swank magazine. I well I mean I kind of we had done. My mom had done on a set With a company White Star years ago and there was a good amount of stuff on there. But I think that the thing that I find interesting is the daily shows us which a lot of people never really saw from nineteen fifty six his high water mark was the ABC specials. We get out but it was nice to see that there was a a A daily show that You Know Ernie did like you know like anyone else and he was really good at it and he had his own take on things and there was a great set the the Dungeon said Yeah and so I think sort of the daily grind in and out you know trying to get you know five shows a week done in that kind. It was fun to see. That Ernie was actually really good at that. As opposed to just the sort of esoteric stuff that everybody loves which is legitimately great to. Yeah but they have no time to repair now because he had a during doing that show. He's doing a radio. Dj Show from six am to nine for ABC then he tells it over to NBC to do his half hour show which was at ten thirty. And then there's a certain point in the summer fifty six when he got to do a summer replacement show for Caesar's our so on top of all of this. He's rehearsing and writing and then every Monday night. There's just one hour big eight o'clock and then you know then poker. I know he briefly hosted the tonight show four months. I think there was one thing where when he was on the radio he wanted the the audience to experience what it was like being run over by train. Yeah yeah this is when he was in Trenton on the radio in Trenton. Yeah Yeah put the microphone and let the trainer over. Let me ask you guys about some of these characters just just a sentence or two you That you can tell us. Maybe the the origin of the genesis of character like Percy dove tonsils was it loosely based on Alexander Woolcott which John my research. There's there's at least one if not two other people who read poetry gently with organ music behind find them on the radio and and Ernie had been in radio for several years before coming to to television and I it's possible but a lot of things he's with Kovacs he would get an idea or see something and instantly know what it was and Percy of tonsils. It was a character that came up. When Andy McKay we go to the dime store and in Philadelphia on their budget of a dollar fifty a week and just find things and these were novelty glasses? You would wear to. You look like you're awake and I think that the the the eyelid across it looks if you see a really sharp photo of it. Looks like they was drawn on but he must have put them on one and is yeah. Exactly in the Pushkin Jack and my must have been lying lying around but I think for him it was it was a way to ah for someone who is such a huge presence to play sort of a softer character. I don't think there's anything I mean cost about it. But it and he would do all these these right all these poems and read them on the air and people that by the way. I'm convinced that Stephen Root in off the movie space is doing a huge fans doing tonsils. My mom my mom was the one that came to me and said he's doing perhaps so and I was like. No he's doing Percy and I come come out and ask him we did. Yeah and I don't know if he what about Miklos Molnar the Hungarian chef well that's his dad ernest Sangari in and Miklos Molnar I mean. That's the great thing about her character. A lot of you know ethnic humor from the nineteen fifties who doesn't Gary and characters. I mean Ernie did right right so I think that was definitely his father. And just you know hanging around with those guys In Trenton New Jersey in nineteen. You know twenty five or something maybe possibly probably a little bit of the inspiration for the Swedish chef in the place. Looks like as long as I'm being as long as I'm chump chasing down influence. It looks like it does look like yeah and I sought to. They were talking about one one thing he used to do on the show. That was definitely the inspiration for On Mr Bill like what all the time. That's in the dock from I think that the hippie saying this isn't it something gets run over over. Yeah Yeah Yeah definitely Mr Bill. From Saturday night live. It became well. We were just a second of toss away. Bell loved him to the news. The influencing all those shows In I think it was nineteen ninety two eighty nine. Sorry it was The television hall of fame in Ernie and Jim Henson were both inducted that same year and Henson definitely was a fan of Ernie had to be. I was just GonNa just gonNA use that questions. Yeah for sure. What about the horror? Host uncle gruesome well. Well that's just you know as well or gliding. That's because the funny thing is my mom again brought a Pennsylvania very white bread sort of thing. She never saw any of the movies that they were parroting things that were going on so she he would just say you know bring up bring a wig and a hat and trenchcoat and she goes okay and then she would show up and it should. That's what she would have to do that day. Ernie I was a little more down the road and liked a lot of the you know cheaper movies for sure. There's a neat moment on one of the NBC shows because it was aired at at ten thirty am New York. Time Where he does? The uncle gruesome character one day and it's lit from underneath and And the next stay on the show he says we've got a lot of calls from parents whose children I guess we're watching and we're a little scared. What happened? Ernie and so he does is he brings out their makeup up guy. A guy named George Fiala and these shows the audience. How they put on the uncle gruesome makeup just to reassure all the kids? That's on your blog. Yes that's cool. Yeah he did that okay and last but not least because both listen to this podcast Gilbert of know where I'm going. The Nairobi trio yes champs on earth. It was another one of those things where somebody brought in record gaining Peter Hanley. He was the the male singer on the show that he did on Dumont a late night. Show Eleven and eleven thirty and he heard this record of called so gio and he thought it sounded like something would have fun with the legend. Is that Ernie I heard it. Listen to it one. More time in fifteen minutes he had the whole thing staged and and one of the monkeys. Who's Jack Lemmon? Yeah there there are a lot of different celebrities that the version. That's on the a lot of people have seen on online and on the DVD's which was from The last special woodhead been taped as a clue for take a good look. It's it's rolling brand and Ernie and we never knew who the the guy on mallets was but at the event that Josh mincy mentioning thing that we did it we are somebody. Maybe it was me we asked Joe Lean who was who was and she said it. Was Jack Lemmon. There was a lot of they would do. A lot of Live things like for charity functions. I've mentioned they do this thing. Called the share show which was a big deal in Los Angeles and Ernie's big joke was that he would do the Nairobi trio and it would be Frank Sinatra and Jack Lemmon and they would do this thing. Nobody knew that. That's an Ernie Kovacs. Joke right or get Frank Sinatra veteran Jack Lemmon but nobody knows that they're there that one that is one of my earliest. TV memories as a child is seeing the the Nairobi trio entity and just so simple. And you can't describe it to. Any of that was nightmarish. What is a hellish really? It's Macabre Bob. I mean he was a dark guy doubt about it. I just want to ask quickly about a Ernie's movie career and we were talking for your mom's movie career to she's quite excellent. Oh went in In even even not so good movie like under the tree with Jack Lemmon which we were talking about before. She's the best thing in it. She's very good in lover. Come back yeah. She's not on the screen very long but she. She almost deals the movie issue. And she's good in the Gorkha Dal picture the best man. She's really good. She's reading the apartment and the apartment. Of course how. Oh can I leave the. Yeah she which apart she got just 'cause she was at dinner with a wild with billy wilder. Yeah the story goes that Ernie because Ernie was best friends with Jack Jack Lemmon. Excuse me friends who Jack Lemmon and they went to dinner was just Audrey wilder billy wilder my mom and Ernie and billy wilder turns to my mom at some pointing says Writing this movie and we were were making this movie and I think part for you and she said. Don't you want me to audition. And he said no and she thought okay great. Yeah have this part and he said Monday car will come for you. She said great so Monday. Turns up car comes because I guess I got the part. And that's how she got into the she's fun in the movie She's really good in it and Ernie we were talking to is a good actor but but I feel it's safe to say that Operation Mad Ball and Armand advantage excellent film. Yeah there they don't bring out the best in him right. He just took out an ad a full page ad in variety with pictures of all the parts he played and then road no bleep captains. Because he was sick of playing he was more captains. He said yeah these Ol- like Funny Authority figure right right a tough guy. He made for Operation Mad ball which can watch as it got a lot of Ernie Kovacs hit complete creative control on that. Yeah for for sure. I enjoyed that more than the movie. Yeah and I heard. He hated studio audiences and especially hated canned laughter. Couldn't wouldn't stand him he he You know they were just bringing in those Big Signs would say applause but his would say apple sauce. He just didn't want anyone one He didn't want it. And and you know my mom and he got a gig Playing Vegas in the nineteen fifties and the basically basically the the Bob said to him like you know easy you you have to like. Tell Ernie he's working to the first ten. Rose you're working. You know big you've gotta work big. Ernie didn't know how to work to an audience. He wasn't a stand up comic. He didn't really have any other. You know besides radio and stuff like that so he worked very small. My mom went to juilliard. Realize you have to project and get your voice out there. Ernie worked at a very small way. So it very different. Can't imagine he didn't get network notes to reject those as well because he's a one man operation ration- definitely writing the Book Zuma. Yeah any basically would say to them. You don't like it rack up another Western. Because that's what you're GONNA show. Yeah interesting the movie career to I mean. He turns up. John Wayne Westerns. He's turning up at all and Belkin. Candle Yeah Yeah good movie funny by John Wayne Yes absolutely it. What's the name of that North through Alaska? Yeah but he's trying. I think he was trying to make a movie out of Eugene toward the end he talks about it in an interview and the and that he does with this. CBC Any talks about in great detail like he describes the opening sequence. And what kind of a Lenzi wants to use his ideas. That Allah Guinness is going to star. You're in the movie as as Eugene and he would direct and that he would direct and he had all these different scenes mapped out. And now and the the Eugene special that he does was something being where he wound up. Rescheduling the special he taped for that November and tape. This bumped the other thing. I think he was trying to. We'd do the diversion of Eugene. Sort of as a pilot to show that this could actually work and had it not been for the car extent because movies like develop boy and and Ladies Man these sort of non linear narrative films were getting made. I think Ernie would have made his Eugene Phil. That's interesting. Yeah because he's has filmmakers I to to to to to be lost at taken from us at forty two and then it it does leave you wondering what what What wonderful work? There was the come and a lot of people say he would have been great in silent films and then that was his time period. Yeah I think that this story Aureus that when when they filmed medicine man they had to shoot it really quickly because it was presold and but he and and Keaton really hit it off and there was talk ah buster bringing in his is scrapbooks to if this show got picked up and if if they didn't have to rush they had more time to play The two of them when it cooked up some amazing visual gags and you imagine and wouldn't have been such A. You wouldn't have been worried about the fact that was an old western scenario of course as we run at a time. Let's plug these goodies. The set from shout factory art by someone. I think we recognize. Oh yes great. Drew Friedman Drew Friedman. Yeah did a great job. Yeah so you and how did you guys Hook Up. How did you guys well? I got an email from Josh back in right after I put up my website for any Kovacs and I thank Gosh I hope nobody makes me take it down and I got an email from Josh Mills saying hi. I'm my Mama's eating. She found website and loves it. Well then I got an email from easy and so she and I had his email and telephone French friendship for many many years and then after she passed I started working more with Josh. And just knowing what shows were wear and where they were stored and what elements we have been getting the working to connect with the Library of Congress. which is we're all? The physical elements are now. So you are the two guys keeping this flame burning pretty much. Yeah absolutely so tell it. Tell tell our listeners. What to get their people out out there for the uninitiated who don't know Ernie Kovacs he needed beginner set? Yeah there's You can get him on Amazon or anywhere you can go to Ernie Kovacs dot com radio ADAMS DOT com. And there's there's box sets There's antennae boxes as also this wonderful. CD WE JUST RELEASED A reissued with bonus tracks that Ben Found on audio transcription option desk ready to go when the Ernie Kovacs album which was a record on Sony in nineteen seventy seven which he was nominated for a grammy for posthumously. And and what's the one. You just released this here. That's the centennial edition of that annual addition so DVD. There's literally I think there's four box sets that are available show and my mom Sean. And we didn't even get to the the scariest story of all how you mother got that phone call. Where with some guys? Some worker at the studio saying there are racing Yeah she was This is probably sixty three. And and she was about a year out after Ernie died. And one of the technical crew guys called my mom and said I just WanNa let you know I'm here at NBC and they are Array Sing earnings master tapes. They're using them for. PSA's and weather reports and game shows and my mom in nineteen sixty three with no for no good reason really other than to save it she went to a lawyer got a quit claim and went to NBC. CBS ABC in anywhere else. And said if it's as Kovacs I'll buy it and she did. We amassed I mean the only reason it survives is my mom's weird idea that Ernie was a genius and he should be saved. Aft You guys are heroes. But she's the she's not off. Let's let's save early television. While it was early television. She was saving saving stuff and on holding onto it decades before people thought we should. We should stop wiping these tapes and it was costing her even more and more money paper something stuff in the river in the Hudson River to save on storage. Yes so criminal. Yeah a lot of the stuff from Dumont Dove soupy sales show. Yeah it's all the bottom of the Hudson New York tonight shows with Johnny Carson. They're all the first one with Groucho is gone. I think the introduction exists or some some small piece of it. Yeah it's it's tragic but it was a different. Yeah it Camila at that time this again so we'll just wipe it in. But they were doing that. I remember at the thing that Egyptian George Slaughter talked about going out to the parking parking line stopping the trucks. Taking the Masters Masters ran into the parking lot. I heard a story that when they were making the deals for the honeymooners Audrey Audrey meadows brother was a lawyer and they looked at him solve. Yeah abroad the lawyer. What is your and one of his stupid? It demands was well. I'd like her to get paid if it shows again and they thought what an idiot after people watch it once. We're not gonNA show it again Yup Ryan That show they agree to that one. Last Easter Egg in the movie The grandparent hotel. Yes Jeff Goldblum's characters name name Colfax very good tip of the hat. No accident a tip a tip of the hat What events are coming up? We have done a million of your sure. We do have an event on Wednesday. which is you know? Now December whenever this runs put on social okay Wednesday at the Hollywood would Heritage Museum the Hollywood barn so we're having Ernie Kovacs event there and in January. We're going to be doing a panel at Sketch Fest in San Francisco with Kids in Halls Dave Foley Dana Gould Wayne Federman and myself. We also like to thank our friend. Kevin McDonald who was GONNA be with us on the show show but had an untimely injury. Yes broken elbow and something Kovacs fans do a broken elbow and we WANNA thank some people bowl to this is the the first night they were recording with our new friends here at Sirius. XM DANCE Venta by say that right Dan. Steve Steve Varley EH. Right Steve Steve Farley Jack Vaughn Jim McClure. And how does Jason Say last-named Shapiro Jason Shapiro and also our new friends at star Burns. Jason Smith Brian Brian Baldinger and land. Romo it takes a village or village and we wanna thank you know Salomon who called me and said you gotta get on on this guy. Josh Mills that's here for a little bit Gino. Gilbert doesn't like to say his name show Zelda to our listeners if you're if you're not a fan of Ernie Kovacs Educate yourself absolately. Become one dig in. Thank you guys for preserving this terrific invaluable valuable history Thanks for having us in total thrill. I'm Gilbert Godfrey. 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Mason and Ireland HR 2: Break Free

Mason & Ireland

48:57 min | 7 months ago

Mason and Ireland HR 2: Break Free

"I don't even know if there is a captain neo anymore. Did they get rid of captain? Ears Captain Yo still there. I have absolutely no idea I would wear that suit. It looks like a power ranger suit. Give it to know. It looks cool looks cool. It's look it's a look. It's an odd one but it's a look all right so coming up. Rich climate is going to join us by the way some speculation about whether or not Kevin durant would potentially come back if the NBA season resumes. John What do you think I think? It's a no ritual. No we'll talk to him about him. I think it's unlikely because one thing is they won't have Kyrie right but if you added K. D. to that nets team just Katie. They could win it. Yeah so maybe. We'll we'll talk to climate about it. It's a very interesting theory. All right joining us right now. Is Anthony Smith Uzi senior producer for the NFL network and he's produced NFL three sixty the La Marathon nipsy russell which is up for a Webby Award for best social video in the sports categories category at features Sean Jackson as he returns to La to honor the legacy of his friend the late nipsy hustle and Anthony joins US right now. Hey Anthony how are you man? Good Anthony and I ended. I watched this today and I didn't know a lot about nipsy hustle but I was fascinated by the fact that in this. I don't know where you got it. But you've got video of him when he was young really young and that's why he connected in in La in the community right because everybody who lived over there has known him since what that one interview he was doing he was even a teenager yet. That was very first interview very first on camera interview and a lot of the themes and a lot of you know kind of the stuff that he was made of and and and what. He lived by evident. You can see that in the very first interview. He didn't change. Yeah that was something that people really respected and he stayed true to La. And I think that's why people so many people in la both in you know crenshaw in south central and outside connected with with nifty Anthony. Why did you love Nipsy Russell? Well you know it's finally. I went to school at Usc So when I came out to California to go to school at se. I found out very quickly that that you pretty much in south central and that was my neighborhood in many ways when I first moved to La. And and Nick. Sti You know when when I started listening to music I connected and there was almost in the Saudi factor because when I moved to La this was this snoop and dre and Eminem at West Coast rap and it. Kinda put me back to. When I first when I first moved out and there was there was that connection and to be completely honest. I didn't know as much about him. You know as a man I knew about the music but I know about as much about him as a man until after he was taken from us and I started to read about everything. And he's doing in the community and I felt like I had to had to find a way to tell the story That was centered around him. And Sean Somebody I've known since I mean when the Shah was cow and we've done a number of projects over the years and when I found out sean was with connected the not and that he was going to be honoring him last year You know I felt like we had this story. We had to tell the Sean jumped at the opportunity to tell the story. It's Great Anthony. I really liked watching it. It's called the La Marathon nipsy hustle. It's part of the NFL three sixty. If you WANNA watch it. Lindsey just put it on her twitter. Feed at Lindsey Baseball and you can go watch it now anthony. Here's a question if we wanted to vote for you or vote for this for for this video at the Webby Awards. How do we do that all right? So there is a website and I think he's actually going going to put this on twitter as well as vote Webby Award Dot Com and it is the public voting and the great thing about this. Great thing about this particular award is the People's choice awards the people get to vote and you know being La story with Sean being in La Guy with nipsy meaning what he means to La. I WANNA GIVE ONE TO MAKE SURE PEOPLE IN LA NEW. And if they wanted to vote that they could vote and and and support support. This story cool tweeted the link. John Tweet the link on how to vote and to the video itself which is which is really really great. That's amazing thanks thinks graduates. It's really well done. Hope you win it. Thank you sir. There's Anthony the NFL network in. May Snoop is a big part of this thing. Yeah Snoop into. Sean both went to the same high school they went to Long Beach. Poly Nipsy went to Hamilton. But all these guys have known each other since they were like ten twelve years old on the guest Dream List for us we can get to. I've had him. Yeah we can get wicked. Snoop for sure. But you know who's also trying to get on this show who is a corporate. Greg hopers Greg trying to get scoop well. This isn't the union is personal. This is a battle you versus corporate. Greg let the people went out over the corporates. I kind of relationship with the contact there and so I figure one on and then we can. Also say hey. You know what you should also do that show after. Yeah absolutely can do. They can do their show after after he. Does arse no question it. So I'm watching the get up this morning and this was in the opening minutes and this subject that is near and dear to John. Ireland's heart the Minnesota Minnesota region so I guess from the Minnesota Board of Regents University of Minnesota. A guy named Michael Sue was on the Paul Finebaum show yesterday and this is what he said. I wouldn't be surprised to see the policies you know move away from the NCWA. I think it could happen pretty soon. Within the next couple of years. I mean it just depends on what everybody wants. Obviously now that the system is broken and because of the pandemic it may be. It may never get back to normal. We're just in a place where the NCAA is broke and I I can't wait till they started asking members for money is probably going to be within the next year. I have been arguing for what he just said for years now. Of course when I said I'm just a sports radio GUY spouting off opinions but mace the significance of a region. Doing this. Yup somebody that has a at a university. That's a power five. School is huge. If he's right if this happens within one to two years the NCAA as we know it is done and when they brought this up on get up this morning they'd to former college athletes to former NFL athletes on their panel. Dominique Foxworth and Bobby Carpenter and both of them said they don't understand why why they even wait. The the power five schools should should break away right now now. I think there's another option. I think the power five schools. Now it's a lot like when the NBA players. Went Adam. Silver and said Hey. We're not getting an all-star break all the best players are playing in the game get an all star break. We're going to stop opting it. You know we we want an hold on we. Can we can work with you guys. And they gave him a week off and so now. They all play in the all-star game and then they go on vacation right they should go to the NCAA. The power five schools and say look. Either you start using common sense or we're going to break away and by using common sense. I mean allowing athletes. At the power five schools to be compensated for their name and likeness. Not You know not playing any offense when the best college basketball players who were all signed to go on scholarship at schools leave to go to the G. League because Mark Emirate the president of the NCAA won't even consider having meetings about allowing the pair. The players to be paid. Those days are over. If this region is right Emmitt it has to go and the they have to get progressive the NCAA has to say okay. The players should be compensated for their role in our billion dollar enterprise. And if that happens then you can reach a compromise if not. Ncaa's done so a few things. First of all the chairman of the Board of regents of the University of Minnesota immediately slapped down backpedalled immediate. Yeah Yeah Yeah. Your weight your over your skis. Here Mr Sue but I think the speaks to the issue of what the world is going to look like after all of this like we are quietly seeing behind the scenes. Really monumental stuff happening during this shutdown mean very very quietly for example major league baseball really collective bargaining agreement very very quietly right Very quietly the. Nfl announced that it was expanding the. It's it's playoffs very quietly. We've seen the NC double come out and say as soon as twenty twenty one twenty twenty two players are going to be able to benefit from their name and their likeness mean all this stuff is sort of scrambling around and it wouldn't surprise me at all to see monumental changes come from this that that now might be the time for the power five conferences to break away because we are in this weird sort of period. Where stuff is happening. Stuff is churning stuff is changing and we keep saying. We're not going to be the same when we come out the other side. It's possible that this could go down soon when USC got put on two years of probation after everybody knew that the cheating they're still cheating. I mean all you gotTa do is to do some research about the money hand tricks and the different players who admitted they got paid to go to those schools and then all of a sudden they decide because Mike Garrod arrogant and he doesn't say Nice things about the NCAA that they're going to slap USC with a two year probation. I'm surprised you didn't do it then just to say who do you really guys you guys think you can co exist without us a USC Notre Dame walks away and it's a complete game changer and so now if the power five schools got together and Notre Dame would be part of this by the way Notre Dame even though yeah sure they would go with the power five if if even if even twenty schools did it. Okay you know. The power five conferences are what the PAC twelve the big ten the big twelve. Abc in the SEC. Right Yeah Yup Okay. So if they all go the NCAA's debt and the NCAA knows it so the fact that they wouldn't even heard Jay Bilas talking about this that when the NBA decided to get aggressive and say hey if we set up a training program Builder Energy League and we offered players five hundred thousand dollars in year round training. They would come play for US rather than go to college and in the college response to that was one we're GONNA we. We're not doing anything. We're not going to provide a competitive product. We're not GONNA DO ANYTHING. Amateurism AS AMATEURISM. These players will not be paid this. This is where I diverge from you. I don't think that the the college that that the NC Double A. Cares if athletes skip their one year of college eligibility. I the one in on one of yours anyway so I don't think that's as much an issue. Well my the point I'm trying to make is the arrogance of the NCAA to do absolutely nothing. When they realized they had competition and it happens all the time in that sport that when they get competition they realized. Well we do things our way. Like why? I'll ask you. Why did you get a two year penalty when no one in the SEC? Got Anything why guy to know your penalty when there's nothing in the actual thirty two page report that link no athletic director Pete Carroll to anything that has to do with Reggie Bush's parents down in San Diego cousins the NCAA had unbridled authority to do whatever they want and they consistently do the wrong things they consistently say the wrong things and the power five schools shouldn't put up with it every time the MTA does something stupid. I think why don't they just walk away from them. And now the significant me saying it is just a guy talking but region saying somebody. That's that's part of a fabric of power five school like you. Just played is a huge deal even if even if the the president of the regions came out to no no. He's not allowed to say that because he doesn't want it. The president doesn't want to kill the Golden Goose Ryan. Ta's worth billions of dollars but but the billions of dollars are being generated by the power five schools in for them to what they did. Usc was unconscionable and Grad. I it just it to me. It was complete tone-deaf response to kneecap one of your most prestigious programs and not do anything to anybody else. You GotTa have the same rules for everybody. And they're never playing by the rules. They just do whatever they want. And the one thing I don't know the impact of is so the NC Double A. Schools. Lose on average twelve point six million dollars annually in their athletic departments. How does the NC Double A. subsidize those programs to make sure that they've got okay? So here's Eric. Even here's where it gets really interesting. The conferences do so. Let's say for example. We were talking about the fact that There may be some schools. This is kind of coming full circle. And you shared yeah. There may be some schools that play in. Let's say the ACC but other schools that don't Yup schools in New York or like rutgers who's on the big ten or syracuse who I think he's is now in the ACC right I can't remember Syracuse as move like twice but Syracuse. Now maybe be in the big east or wherever they are. They probably can't play because they're based in New York. Yeah but records place shirt chooses in the ACC. Okay plays in the big ten. Yup there are parts of the big ten that are going to be able to play like let's say for example Nebraska. Yeah okay the Kobe in Nebraska so if Nebraska makes the the final four they get like a fifteen million dollar payout or something right maybe low on that They share it with the conference. So rutgers get some of that money and they're able to use it to pay for all their other sports but the NCAA. As far as I knew the NCAA uses money to give scholarships to people and to support division three schools division to schools but the conferences are the ones keeping the schools afloat so the the power five conference leave. They just have more of the pie to share that if they were in the NCAA and you know this might just be a year where you know. Syracuse doesn't get a season that doesn't mean everybody else in the ACC doesn't get a season right and get some of that. Money that shared revenue from the conference Trying to look at who else Clemson South Carolina Probably K. Boston College It's been bad in Massachusetts Florida State Florida seems to be open. Georgia Georgia's Open Louisville Kentucky's open being. There are some schools that are going to be in states where it's okay and there are some sport unfortunately like for US SC and Ucla. It's it's going to be harder Because we've got a state that is is still in the early stages of reopening so I mean the end you're eating and you're exactly exactly so not everybody is going to get a chance to play. It may not be equitable this year. Some schools may have to play short schedule some schedules. Some teams may play full schedules. Some teams will get to training camp and be better prepared for the season than other teams. It's it's GonNa be something is better than nothing. I think. That's the big rule that comes out of this. Something is better than nothing even if we don't get it all exactly the way we like it even if we don't get the season the way we expected to be every year something is always better than nothing and I think that if this causes the NCAA to reevaluate the way they do business and to stop doing archaic things maybe there is room for compromise maybe the NCAA says okay. We hear you. Let's work together and come up with a more reasonable way of doing things and maybe they can save it but if they don't if they cling to this antiquated we will protect amateurism at all cost. Hey Mark Emery. Your amateurism went out the window. Twenty years ago kids have been paid under the table the entire time in both football and basketball if you would compensate them for their name and likeness maybe it would clean itself up. They wouldn't even consider it. They wouldn't even have the conversation so hopefully now they will. Here's a here's a nugget. That just came through and I would anticipate. This is the first of multiple domino's to fall the big twelve his just become the first power five conference to move to a virtual media day so in other words Every all the coaches are going to be on zoom. It's GonNa look like the NFL draft. And I would imagine that all the conferences are going to do Media Day. Just like this right in by the way. Nothing wrong with that. No nothing and violating television stations. Like it because they want to send people though these guys will all be on on a feed they can just pick up record erin their newscasts and by the way and might be something that will outlive this. We May this may be the way media days get handled in the future particularly for smaller conferences. It's it's expensive to run a media. Day and Zuma's reinvented production. Values are going to be a casualty cone zoom. Who owns it? Does anybody know I never heard of zoom until this? They're having a very month. Did you ever hear of Zoom meetings before this? Yeah yeah little about him. But I didn't know how they worked and it didn't have zoom account. Now it's you know part of it. Well they they made four billion in three months while over the corona virus four million. Three months I'd say they're doing pretty right. Yeah they're privately. Owned all right coming up next we'll hear from Max Muncie and Ross stripling. Both of the dodgers both have spoken in the last twenty four hours and then at the bottom of the hour rich climate who is Kevin Durant agent manager and also he's a producer on the boardroom on ESPN plus he will join US Mason Ireland seven ten espn now Ireland. You Say Lisa. Your your lovely wife. Does these sort of cocktail parties on zoom or unsocial yet right? Yeah don't get it and I went to went to a birthday party a zoom birthday party on Saturday. I gotTa admit I just don't I don't get it. I get an understanding. They're at squares and saying what people are you drinking? Yeah drinking yeah. That's the key to it. Yeah but she gets all these girls. We'll talk to each other when you know when we're not in quarantine so I think it's just. They're doing what they normally do. They're just all in different places. Now Dhahran all right so baseball we've been talking about the fact that baseball and there are some some people leaking out. You know maybe spring training in June maybe a MLB starts in July something like that. Some dodgers are out there talking right now and Here's Max Muncie from the dodgers. He was with Kevin Winter on. Espn radio talking about just staying in shape and stand ready to go. I got a couple of times a week but I'm not trying to trying to blow it out. 'cause once everything starts back up the only thing we do know is it's going to be a lot of games in a short period of time so we want to make sure your especially as possible and you don't want to and be before whatever happens. There's probably going to be sometime this spring training. I would imagine so you don't you don't WanNa wear yourself out right now. You WanNa keep yourself fresh here. He is playing without fans if it's baseball side of about that Know that's really all we got about his baseball. It can be very Erie. There's no fans in the stands. But you know we gotta do what we have to do to keep everyone safe. And this is a possibility of given you know the countries some sports with a while keeping everyone safe. And that's something that we gotta do. You know for me. It's just I just want to play baseball again. If there's fan fan I just want to be out there on the field. And here's Max Muncie just waiting for baseball to come back. I know we're all waiting for something for anything for live sports to happen You guys who make a living out of this especially even else who kinda broadcast this living. One of the options on the table is is games somewhere down the line without fans. How'd you feel about that You know I'm going to cut that off. I think we. I think we heard that already for for Max so so cut that one off. Let's go to Ross stripling on the scribes of summer. Podcast I think the one that seems to make the most sense to me would be played home your home stadium in front of no Fan. Start off with for sure in you. Play your closest teams geographically. You know whether that's sixteen nine other teams. Whatever we've seen the three divisions of ten were even coming here to Texas to play like the Astros and the Rangers. We fly private. So you don't have to deal with airports. Hotels have basically been eighty to ninety percent vacant for the last six weeks you know. They seem like they're probably pretty clean. And can you know house us in? You feel safe about it. And then you're not having to do a massive cross country trips you know you're just playing your closest teams geographically. I think that makes sense and you play. You know enough teams in those divisions where you're not just playing the same teams over and over again you know divisions of eight to ten and and you get one hundred games in or eight whatever it is. That's still plenty. Where the you know? Cream rise to the top. The best teams will succeed. You'll have playoffs in and we'll be able to go and we'll feel good about that as players. I think fans should feel like they will get a good product. It's not sitting in the stands six feet apart running out on the field wearing masks. I don't know that first one just seem so inconceivable to me that just never seen possible so I think the latest one makes the most sense to me. And I think we're supposed to maybe get a proposal this week. That probably looks something like that. And that's Ross stripling just a reminder of how great the dodgers is going to be when they get back out on the field match. Muncie who we heard from Is At second base? Jt at Third Cory seager short Peterson through. They kept after the angels trade is out in left field splitting time with Aj pollock and then. You've got mookie Betts. Along with cody bellinger in the outfield Walker. Bueller another year. Better David price in that rotation with Clayton Kershaw in Kenley. Jansen still closing it may be i. I would argue that. This is going to be the best dodgers lineup in history. Best dodgers lineup in history. Well if everyone are with yeah if everybody performs up to the level and they don't have any injuries but those are two pretty big ifs now next week next week we're supposed to be doing Like we did with NBA Two K. We're supposed to be doing an MLB. The show showdown between me. You and George were drafting all time. Dodger team all time dodger team. So taken if you get. I think I'm GonNa Take Sandy Koufax with my number one pick. Yeah I would too. I think that's the number one. Pick no matter who gets it. Yep I code next for you. Rich CLIMATE IS GONNA join. Us is the agent and manager of Kevin Durant. That's next forty may in Ireland seven ten ESPN SANITATION ESPN Mason Iowa. What is going on? It is Wednesday. It's sunny outside. Hopefully you get out for a walk taking a little fresh air. If you're Ireland you've got the beautiful Jacuzzi in the backyard. Yes and and or go to a park or or whatever you're able to do and we thank you for being out there. We appreciate you richards ready to go. We do rich. Climate is Kevin durant manager as well as the CO founder and business partner in a joint company thirty five ventures and richest. Nice enough to join us now. Rich how you holding up. I'm doing good guys thank you. Everybody is healthy. Thankfully how you guys we're we're doing okay are now. Are you still in New York? Did you stay in New York during this pandemic I did I did? I stayed in New York. I was able to get outside of the city. I live in the city of able to get outside which was a blessing but family still in the city. So I've stayed close so we good So I was GonNa ask you Rich and this. This is a question. I'm sure you saw common. Do you have any sense for how when if NBA is going to resume season? I don't have a definitive sense. Anyway I think that there's Unanimous commitment from players from owners from the League to try to find a solution But it's just like It's a fluid process because there's new information daily There's new concerns. I think that people start to think about when you open up one door But I'm confident I truly am confident and I think like you couldn't ask for a better leader and Adam try to get this in motion. You know he was the first to to shut it down. And whether he's the first or not I think that they'll probably set a really good example. And how they return And I think we all could use it so you know. I'm hopeful but I think that there still so many moving parts rich you mentioned you still have family in New York all of us. We live on the west coast. But we've all of course been to New York City. What's the what's the city like? Now I mean what is it like to be in New York with this going on? Is it even recognizable? I I was in the city again a few days ago. I went back to get some stuff. And it's crazy how I was looking down Broadway. Every single person had a mask on as they should and to think that two months ago to nap months ago that would have been one of the oddest scenes I could ever have witnessed and her look. Normal and people are going about their day. And you know I think people all around the country know that New Yorkers and all of us are resilient but New Yorkers tend to have to go through a lot and and always do bounce back. There's definitely That unknown fear a month ago. I think you could send more so than ever before in any other circumstance after nine. Eleven after anything. I've been around for. I think the last time that I drove back. I think all of us are just adjusting to some semblance of this new and you could feel that a bit in New York and I think fortunately things have slowed down. But there's also that There's that kind of symbol of it with every kind of turn you take because every store is closed. Every restaurant's closed signs up their signs thanking the medical workers. And you know and everybody's in masks so obviously. Katie is is still rehabbing. His injuries able to do all the stuff that he needs to do to To Rehab through that. Yeah Yeah Yeah. He's you know like you know every adjusted like every NBA player and every athletes had to in terms of how their routine Has Exists you know and not being able to go to the facility but in terms of keeping up is training and staying in tiptop shape. You've been able to do that. How houses progress. He's he's good he's good. I think He'll be as the same person he was. Pre Injury Just a little older. I mean he's great though he's really he attacked. We have from day one the way. I'm sure everyone would imagine he would and Never Really Kinda got lost in like why me and really just got motivated and going after as we have the way he had everything else before and his life so he'll be good. We're talking to climb and Kevin Durant business partner and rich. Here's the question that I'm sure you never get that. No one ever brings it up if the season resumes next month. Is it possible K. D. Place for the nets in this season? I don't think so but I haven't had that conversation with him because I have said this and I have never been asked that you're right anti rich me on how many times a day Nah I mean how many times as many times as I do radio for the blade whenever I do anything for project I'm working on then that's when it happens but doesn't ask me now Good let's see I mean no I don't think so but again I haven't asked him I. It's just one of those things where The season ended so abruptly everything in the world halted and the focus has just been on that and like we talk every day obviously and we talk about our business in life but I figured if it was something different than and me not thinking it was going to happen. He would have told me. So you know said no feeling a no rich. Kleinman is with us Manager an agent of Kevin Durant. You know one of the things that That has come up over. The last couple of years is that Kevin will often respond to people on social media and is very active on social media. Do you give him any advice. In that regard I love it. I love it. I think you know it's it's Very much a sign of the Times. It's very much Generation really. It's something that is very rampant. It's part of the way people dialogue not only with their friends with their fans and and and with the with celebrities and with athletes. And you know I think Kevin enjoys conversation and enjoys the banter. You look closely at any of that conversation. It always has to do with basketball. You know so he's always GonNa WanNa talk about something that he loves on any forum with anybody that he thinks is got a point of view that he disagrees with or agrees with It's not like they're having personal back and forth on anything so you know. I think it's I think is refreshing for people you know you know exactly. A lot of people used to say to me like we don't know who he is and I mean he shows you he is he's as real and authentic is any athlete. I think we've seen It's just sometimes comes out in ways that other people don't want it to but that's the way he likes to communicate and you know he has fun with it. I love Durant is the rich. I work in the NBA. I've been lucky enough to talk to him. Interview them and I find it. Fascinating uses down to Earth for famous rich guy as anyone. I've ever met like you would never know if you sat next to Kevin Durant on a plane that he has had the level of success. I mean he's just a really engaging guys so let's let's talk about some of your projects would if you did send X. amount of plane and you didn't know that you'd still be thinking something 'cause he's about six eleven. Yeah ridiculously long arms and good luck and yeah yeah. That's true but let's let's talk about the Board Room. I've seen a bunch of these on. Espn plus you kind of go behind the scenes of what sports business is and. I'm wondering is there anything rich. That's off limits on the Board Room when those guys are putting it together and in trying to kind of give fans of behind the scenes. Look do you tell them? There's places they can't go or is it all systems go now. It's all systems. Go because you know. These conversations are usually done in roundtable combo in a one on one interview. We've added different verticals where these conversations take place in podcast format original writing newsletter and for us. It's I knew growing up that I wanted to be around sports period. I wish I could have played professional sports but I also knew early enough that I couldn't and I just love the energy of it and as I got older I really started to realize that like the way the sports world had Become pop culture and that the superstars within the NBA special had become these pop culture icon. These incredible businesses have been formed. And while there's trade magazines and there's the Sports Business Journal fans that consume anything and everything sports. Don't get to really see how these deals are being done. How media companies are being started? How Lebron has become this tycoon? Business the way people invest in technology. The way people have clothing lines and to be able to talk to fans and talk to young kids and explain it in Layman's terms and give them like they kind of nontraditional look within the sports world with something that I would love this a kid so I wanted to create a brand and a platform that could speak to the fans about what the sports businessworld this. You mentioned Lebron and of course Lebron production company has done all kinds of projects. Now Your Company is thirty five media the company that you co own with Kevin Durant you have jeb visions of doing long form television feature films. Where where's your company gone? Yeah we had scripted series on Apple. That's in development. We have a documentary next week. I'm Prince George's county where Kevin grew up in a handful of NBA Players Wing Cook Depot. The grant brothers Atanas wnba players and NBA players have come from so this documentary. Next Friday the fifteenth on Showtime So we have a handful of projects. But the big focus is this platform the boardroom. And really trying to be in a voice of sports business and create different verticals. But we're always trying to tell stories that we're passionate about We help Stefan Marberry documentary out last month and that was an incredible one for me being from New York City and just having a relationship I have with them. So it's really about quality and creating great projects and being a part of great projects and you know we could pivot and detour at any point. You know we've created this business to be enough to do that Rich climate is our guest. Kevin Durant business manager partner in a lot of these things so rich. You talked about how you guys are are flexible. And you can pivot the thing that jumps out at me when when I was reading up on some of the things involved in when I knew you were coming on is the diversity of the portfolio in other words. You're involved in a sports network. You're involved in a digital currency platform you guys have a cloud computing startups drink company. Yeah got up pizza chain. You got a bike sharing company. You Got Post mates. So you're all you're all over. What's the common denominator rich? What does somebody have to do to get you guys interested? Is there something that all those companies have in common that well even though the diverse? Yeah that's a good question and to be clear we don't have all those companies those companies we've invested in I listen we're investing in a certain stage in these companies development where there's not heavy analytics behind our decision making there's not heavy math To kind of equate it's really about great founders. Great leaders great ideas and I always say that somebody may have something that is proprietary that groundbreaking that is brand new. That's going to be the next big thing. But if I can't wrap my head around it if Kevin and I don't understand the pitch of I can't repeat the pitch Then it's probably not for us. I think so much is in how you can communicate your idea. And then there's a certain passion and paranoia that I think we expect the founders to have that you know that I think is a trait that we find ourselves in a Lotta great entrepreneurs You know but there's not like one area of expertise because there's certain companies that are more on brand that were able to help them be more public facing with and then like you said there's a a data storage business that we we met the founder. We love the founder. We believe in and we believe in the concept. We did our diligence and it was the right business. And it's become a unicorn for us but usually it's gotta start with a great leadership team and a team that we believe in an idea. We believe in. Listen man we could talk to you forever we love durant summons you guys are doing with the company really cool and rich when we have you on again. Let's hope that we can talk about some actual live basketball or our fingers crossed. Amen Man appreciate it with thank you guys. They say and Yeah let's talk soon. Asked corporate tax rates right targeted care rich climbing there. And Yeah just you mentioned John. He's provided seed money to a lot of really interesting companies across the Silicon Valley. You mentioned some of them but there are some rich really smart guy and Katie is really evolved as a as a businessman in addition to being one of the greatest basketball players in the world. All right coming up for you. Top of the hour is five o'clock fast track John. I posed I posed a question on twitter. Poll that I want to ask you your response to it's about our MLB. The show League which is going to start next week coming up next for you may Ireland Seventeen Espn Espn Mason in Ireland. And coming up for you atop the hours. Five o'clock track. What is up? It's Wednesday and we stand up stand enthusiastic staying positive and John next week a couple of weeks ago we did an NBA two K. Tournament and I don't want to toot my own horn but I'm going to. I want it read on the prediction from the listeners. Before it was you were going to get absolutely destroyed because you drafted to centers yup and you'd have to check in who else Shock and wilt. Yeah we thought you were a moron but then we forgot how dominant shack was. Checked just dominated the whole tournament and beat. Everyone Shack was absolutely amazing. He got he got the MVP well deserve. What's the best player by a mile by? A Watt yes man Magic Lebron Elgin Baylor and it didn't matter and had had no chance against a shack so next week and we did this with Sodano next week. We're going to do all time. Dodger teams where each going to draft dodger teams from the all time list. And they're gonNA play it out on. Mlb The show. And we're I got a couple of the same way. I got a couple of questions for you about how this suren work so if we take somebody do we get his his career statistics like his best year. I think we in the NBA Two K. League we got the best year right because that changes the dodger draft a lot. Like for example. Sean Green had a year where he hit like forty eight home. Yes he did so he becomes valuable in this format. If we're taking or like didn't Adrian beltre hit forty eight homers. One year wasn't a GONYEA. Unhittable one year. Yep He was on your head racked up fifty one year didn't you young and the MVP or something like and you'll have to take a closer right. You'll have to take Kenley Jansen or euro half to take Eric Ganja Marshall Look it up Mike Marshall. There's another one. Yeah another potential closer so I think the deal is you choose one. Starting pitcher one closer and then nine position players or eight position player position players. Yeah so I put out a little pole here. John and you know how much I love the polling process. The pool went like this if next week May Ireland. Drafting all dodger teams. What should be the number one? Pick if your choice is other. Tell me who you take. So here are the choices I offered out there. Sandy Koufax Jackie Robinson Mike. Piazza or other. Sandy Koufax what do you think he has to be the leader although it's tough to ignore Jackie Robinson or Piazza? It's but I'll go Colfax as the leader. Because he was so especially under the format of were taken one year I got to think. Sandy has closed Half the vote as forty five percent of the vote fifty five percent for Sandy Koufax Jackie Robinson. He's GONNA BE SECOND. I think he's going to be a head. Piazza because of the way. Jackie only played for one team and it was the dodgers. Yep Piazza left under weird circumstances but had some great years and didn't play in the world series for the dodgers. You no words so I would say Jackie Robinson. What did what did you say? Fifty five for Colfax fifty five for Colfax Khaki gets thirty percent the thirty two. You're on the money on the money. That which leaves hard one is or other. Pi or other. I don't know if people hold Piazza responsible for the way things ended but I've always kind of thought they did but still other is not the name of a person. Yup so I got about fifteen percent left right. Yep fifteen percent left ten for beatify for other. The correct is seven per piazza and six for other seven and six. Here are the other names that are coming up. By the way some Steven tweets Mike. Piazza really yes really Are maybe the greatest hitting catcher in Major League history? Copaxone titanic temporary. I mean it's a two person conversation for the greatest offensive catcher in the history of Major League Baseball. It's Mike Piazza Johnny Bench and you look at straight numbers. It's Piazza and by the way he's also at a position. Were it's hard to find another catcher. Who can do what he does? There's a scarcity at the catcher position when we have our draft among the others Milton Bradley Pedro Martinez. Although Pedro was only a short reliever when he was here. And you have to get the dodger years right. You don't get his best year from the Red Sox. Yes somebody says Andrea. The're I say you're crazy Fernando Valenzuela now. That's interesting if you take his best year yet a couple of months to years in there yes orel. Hershiser had an unbelievable urinate eight. Yep you know. He's a very good one. I'm trying to think of other pitchers who had unbelievable one year runs by the way Don Sutton is probably a guy that you would take place. He's not going. We're only taking three pitchers he's not going ahead of Kershaw all right. We're only starting pitchers facts that he's not going ahead of Fernando Shock Colfax Fernando. Yeah those are the three Don Sutton is perm out. No Perm no perm the closures. Probably we've nailed it down Gonyea Kenley and Mike Marshall. Those are probably your three closer. I remember Correctly Mike. Think about this. Mike Marshall appeared in one hundred and five games. One year as a reliever crazy. Yeah that's nuts yup and the reason. Why put Piazza on the list is okay? We're having a draft. I'm going to take Mike Piazza. Catcher who are you taking? Whose numbers can you possibly get out of the catcher position that you can get out of? Piazza what's next now? Even even for one year right was best year. Not even close member Charles Johnson. He was an excellent defensive catcher. I don't think he ever had a monster offensive. You came over in the Mike. Piazza trade in fact right. If the dodgers ever had another all star catcher social media social made made the All star team. Yeah but I mean that's I mean it's the scarcity thing that makes that makes tough and why put Piazza on that list by the way the Brooklyn dodgers are out right like we can't take Duke Snider. See that's that's a question that's yet to be determined you. We'd like do I say Ed Murray Not Jackie Robinson had years in Brooklyn Right. So He's credit for just the La Years Not for the Brooklyn. I think if you played in L. A. You're eligible okay. That's the way we do it all by the way what. You're the dodgers moved here. They move charity nine right. Yeah fifty nine right. I don't know if Jacqui ever played in. La Law it up. I think he might adjust played in Brooklyn. Really got to look it up but the the thing about it. I think Jackie played four forty seven to fifty nine because remember they jerked him around and made them play. They didn't let them into the major leagues till he was older. And and so I don't think he I think his whole career is a Brooklyn. Dodgers whole career was as a Brooklyn dodger. Now oh I decided the other catcher you take okay campanella. Oh sure fennell. He had some monster years he he'd be the other guy. Besides piazza it will be an interesting exercise next week. I've already started running analytics program that is going to tell me exactly who to draft urinate. Okay COMING UP NEXT FOR. You is five o'clock fasttrack mason in Ireland seventeen ESPN.

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"What up everybody and welcome to a brand new episode of our to see to. Today, you're going to get to hear some amazing stories from one of CC's idols Dave Stewart I can't wait for you to hear his stories about Reggie Jackson Sandy Colfax Bob Gibson you really they're absolutely incredible plus C C officially declares. The Best Player in baseball and it is not who you think it is that's part of slinging heat. It's all coming up right now on an all new RTC to. Our to see too is brought to you by vandals sportsbook the officials sports betting partner of the Ringer podcast network looking for a better way to bet your favorite sports online. If you can dream it, you can probably bet it through fan duel sportsbook fan offer spreads Orleans money lines over under props and the in game vets all in an easy to use APP. When you win, you can receive your winnings and your bank account in as. 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Yeah. But like so still It's still still nerve wracking still a lot of fun to be able to still feel like a nine year old every time I'm around. So it's fun. You guys are GonNa you're gonNA love this conversation with Dave Stewart I. Mean He is first of all. He's one of the Great October pitchers of all time he sees childhood hero and he is an unbelievable storyteller and. The stories you're going to hear about. Reggie Jackson and Tony Larussa and Bob Gibson. They're gonNA blow your mind like they really are you. You're going to be the you will thoroughly enjoy these stories. I. Promise You and then I think the other reason you're out of breath see is because we start every podcast with slinging heat and you you're your I sling and he today it required a prop did and you know I'm a huge over reactor. So anything happens then. Up Somebody the best I've ever you know all of that ship but I don't think there's overreaction by firstly he is. Beds is now the best player in baseball guys. MOOKIE BETTS JERSEY. See that and see, but you could never have gotten it if he was still with the red sox but now over. ME. Now, you can rock the MOOKIE. For sure. And I got an a small size to you know my new body. So I'm good with it. So you're. You're saying mookie Betts is the best player in baseball today. Yeah. Man Did you see? I mean just watching him you know Robin homers on the biggest stage in the NFC s wake manufacturer runs ain't really nothing he can't do out on the field So yeah, I mean the the best players perform in October, right? Yeah. Did you say best player ever or best player now? No best in the big leagues okay, Yeah Yeah Yeah Yeah we're going to. See You know what? It's hard to argue look at the way he's impacted games during October. It's ridiculous. Trout is you know what I'm saying but but we don't get to see him on the state and the to perform at his best right now it's been fun to watch man like a little brother to me. I had to go get the the Dodgers Jersey. Show right on time to I've been waiting for this month. I got the whole season. So perfect time you're going to wear that tonight when we do our Pitching Foundation Virtual Watch party. Jeff wearing his hit tonight. I agree though you watch the way, Mookie has impacted these playoffs the defense I mean, the way he's robbing home runs casually the stolen bases like what we saw in the fifth inning of game. One of the world series, the homers, the average, the I red sox fans have to be beside themselves watching this knowing. Dude, he warned him was aries. Bro, even saying like they got you think they're in pain watching what he's doing right now. I think. To a degree. Yeah. But I mean it worked out if you didn't win a world series with the with the rest is you'd even more pain but he blocked him a title. He got they got a parade out. So yeah, I mean he did his job you know what I mean like he did his job for sure. So. Painful but it ain't that bad because they can go look world series in in that feel bad. What about your second sling and heat today see my second sling heat is take our bets that we give you guys lightly. But I felt so bad. 'cause people spend spending money like his weapon lose my money understanding. In Houston threat. But like yeah. Just take my best lightly because I felt like an asshole. Why does Game Day? Hey, you all. came out it was. Fresh and the let me tell you on the Oh picking the under they never look our terrible derrick. Henry. Is A fucking animal MVP nat big that stroke in that fast as. He was out of the frame from a linebacker in DP. Krakow because I don't understand it actually this incredible but I will say and I and I appreciate the guilt you feel in the amphitheater have but you have you have been more good than bad in our picks. So yes, take it lightly but but. I still back. To my belt last week I'm sorry my bad. That is I'll be better this week for sure. Hey, see how I'm GonNa, give you the third slinging he today. Okay. And this. You know we are spending a lot of time starting to wonder about scheduling how Cova affecting that. Obviously, we see cases arising as this inspected respiratory viruses as the weather gets colder bat just as what happens naturally and. We're seeing that around the country. And the world and it is going to continue into winter. And we're wondering when are we going to bring back these these leagues since most specifically with the NBA right? Because they're the ones that are completely author normal schedule. And there's some thought as to okay. We'll do you wait until you can get fans in the stands because you've got to remember these teams are losing money each game by not having fans in the state every room every game, and it's one thing if you're talking about, you know a short term investment in the business like this past year was it's hard to sign up for another season where you know you're just GONNA lose money every game, which is the reality financially for these teams. If you don't offend the sense. So you want fans in the sense, but there's no obvious path to when that happens. So if you're the NBA, it's not like you can say, Hey, if we start March I will definitely be at one hundred percent capacity you probably won't be and we have no idea. So the question is, do you say, Hey, we're going to try and start as early as possible because there is no obvious landing spot for fans and we don't want a huge gap of time off and we do want to get back on a regular schedule or. Do we still think financially, Hey, we'll take the ratings. Have Long media contracts even if we have to play the playoffs again at a displaced time in the ratings get slammed like they did this year, we will take the. Elevated. Odds of having more fans in the stands the longer we push it back. But as I pro- see I have a bigger issue. Just I set the stage just say that's kind of what we've been thinking about. This is what we haven't talked about yet, which is going to become the biggest off season sport story. and. It's going to be all of these leagues and unions are going to have to agree to another CBA addendum another restart. CBA If you will, and that is going to be as much as his last one was a monster in a bear to deal with. This one may be even more difficult because you're going to be dealing with. More Games right potentially. But without fans, and then how do you divvy up the pot if I'm doing all my games? If I'm an athlete I'm playing let's say in baseball one, sixty two. But then do I have to account for the lack of revenue because they're no fans in the stands how are we gonNA come to an agreement on that because one thing went only play sixty stiffen when I'm doing all my work but we just don't have people to watch it and the revenue model changes. I think that is going to become a huge story for all these sports maybe not the NFL but because they're fall but baseball basketball lookout, that's that's the bigger story anything is. In the getting getting the players to agree with the owners on the money situation As, far as starting, I think the NBA start right away I think they should not right away. I think this you start January I you know what? I mean try to get ready as quick as possible to start. January person in in go from Iraq from there I mean and as you get into the spring, you may get more fans you may have hands full capacity by the finals. You know what I'm saying June but to get back on a regular schedule, an NC season in June to be then twenty, twenty, one, twenty, twenty, two on a regular basketball schedule. That's what. They want they start in January but they need to start working on see right now I know baseball I mean we know how difficult it wasn't into to get the sixty game schedule. We know you know sometimes the owners and you know we know that they wanted to play sixty games played like that So we'll see what they come up with this time and we'll see if the players would be able to agree to. This'll be some. We'll end up talking about throughout the weeks to come because it is going to be it's going to be busy one more new thing though. I mean you know getting started back I mean that's one thing. But just actually getting the players to agree on like you said, if one player wants to see to because you have to pay me peer. Fuck who air. Watch. Everything I mean every fucking penny of of of what I'm old so. And a lot of players are going to feel that way and I understand why you do in the owners are going to say. We're losing sixty percent of the revenue. So where we do or whatever and it's going to be, it's GonNa. Be It's GonNa be a IT'S GONNA. Be Tough to find common ground and I heard I heard former players Texas zone be no saying that they need to play for the fans ball Blah man listen. Funny, listen hear that come from him. You know what? I'm saying where I know most players you out there playing you putting your body on the line you want to get paid for a period. Yeah. So yeah. I, mean, if you're gonNA play a full schedule, you the payment period. A. Watch this story I'm sure it'll be on slinging heat again But on this episode of our to see to, we're about to speak with your childhood idol Dave Stewart, this is a man who two-time AOL CS MVP a world series MVP one of the Great October pitchers of all time a three time world series champion of black ace black as a writer and and one of I mean, one of the best storytellers I've ever heard. Just justice and he he knows everybody he's been around everybody's obviously he's had different jobs in the game from you know being a a GM to being a an agent So he knows everybody man and he's just fun to be around a huge inspiration to me. So you know I think him. Greatly being able to come up texting time out to come on the PODCAST. So without further ado here is Dave Stewart on our to see to. I feel like, C. We just need to start with this. This is this is an all time favorite player of yours. Dave Stewart joining our Ducey to I I mean I've heard Dave Stewart stories from you since we started doing this podcast dry so been first and foremost. What is it like for you to have a relationship now with one of your heroes man. Is really cool to have them. Be Able to come on the pod obviously to be able to call them, and you know tax them whenever I need is a cool thing You know like I said I. Mean Everybody knows that he's my you know my favorite picture, my favorite player of all time. So you know the reason why stepped on the mound was because of him so you know I, feel like everything to him. So to have him come on. The podcast is definitely a blessing and and I'm just happy to have him here for sure Dave what is it like for you? When you hear see say that and knowing you know what a big influence you were on him and wanting to get into this game as a pitcher. Is, funny the the things that you you never know the things that you don't know. Men and. Would I mean by that is? I remember. Meeting. As a young man. And then you know after that period of time. Thank you this kind of move on and then all of a sudden he's in the big leagues and we're having a conversation in the locker room talking about different things having to do with pitching and then. After that you start reading. Comments. From him stating on the things that he has about me and saying the things that he has about me but. It's a really, really proud feeling good feeling is not the word. It's proud. It's it's beyond proud if if there is such a thing to. to have had that type of. Influence. On. CC. and. Quite frankly statistically. He did it better than I ever did it At the highest level, he did it better than I ever did it wins. All years playing. On the impact that he's had on on the community and the communities that he's played in. When he's done it better than I've ever done it and. You know I'm just extremely proud to to have CC. But his staff on me the way that he has you know sure enough. To be all of Famer, there's no doubt about that in my mind and it's just it's just a a unbelievable feeling to to have somebody be still. those type of things on you as he has with me. You know the the the thing about me always starting foundation and and doing things that I do in the community and giving back as I wanna be able to sit there. You know twenty years from now. I'd have a kid be like yo you can't boys and Girls Club I started my ideal all of this stuff because of what you did for me and it was it all started with you know him. Welcome to my boys and Girls Club. So you know everything that I do in the community you know giving back the backpack giveaways all of that stuff started on that day, and if I can be that for just one kid off like you know it, it's all worth it. So like I said I mean it was it's just been a blessing and very grateful that I've been able to you know have these. Type of people in my life and them have that type of impact on me to be able to for me to be able to do without what I've done in my career. Yes. See I think that's the coolest thing day that for CC it starts with him meeting you at the boys and Girls Club as I mean as a young kid it's so cool. It's not. It's not just hey, he was watching. You from afar no no no. No he met you and that had this this huge impact and I mean, I'm sure when you're going, you're doing that type of thing right? Like that's the exact story. You WanNa hear about you have this interaction you inspire this young kid and he goes on to live out his dreams. I gotta be honest Ben when I when I got involved in the boys and Girls Club and. Even. As a youngster You know it was a place for me though I'm from I'm from family of eight kids of my mother I'm pretty much raised all of us at my father passed. And so it was a place for me to go. My sister worked there in in she brought into the club and. If that for the club I would have who knows what path I would've gone down the boys club at that time in my life was exactly what I needed to keep me on the right path. and. So. All, I've only attempt was to be sure. That I gave other kids the same opportunity on that I had when I was when I was growing up. Eventually became a eventually was on the National Board of directors for the boys and Girls Club a my still serve as an honorary board member in the bay area so. I was trying to give back in the way that the boys club giving back to me in and try to have other kids feel the influence is that the boys and Girls Club at had on me and that's that's how ended up there. On that one night. That's really cool. See I mean I think you I always hear you talk about audience always you talk about the boys and girls club and be influenced it had and just hearing dave talk about the impact it had on him but. See gives an idea of what you know why why is so critical in your life and what those experience were like and why it influenced you the same way Dave just talked about it influencing him. I mean exactly what he just said if it wasn't for the club, you know after school I have been going you know hanging out on the corners out them going hanging out in the street. So it was always safe place for me to go get my homework done like have good mentors like the first time I, ever went camping was at the boys and girls, but I want to as game was that the boys and Girls Club. Ever went to a warriors game was with the boys and Girls Club. So all these different types of experience you know getting out of jail came from the boys and Girls Club at night. If I signed up to two club, you know who knows what I, what I would have gotten into on those days in in different situation. So the club was a place of a safe place for me to go and I started going from the first grade all the way until I. 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Now this time of year obviously, we just got done with the Al.. And we have the world series going on right now. So I mean not only is Dave Stewart the perfect guest because he's your guy see but also because this is a man who knew how to pitch in October, you know he he's a two-time Al. MVP world series MVP in one, thousand, nine, hundred, eighty, nine when he was two and the one six, Ninety Ra. Dave. When you think about This time of year these particular moments why or what was so key to you elevating and pitching as well as you did in these big spots, like what are the keys to being able to thrive when the pressure's on and the stakes are as high as they are in October I think it really comes down to. I remember days and playing in the backyard with my brother. When every situation my brother's five years older every situation he put me in was a pressure situation was always basis loaded with. With one out. Facing Willie mays. Unit was always those type of situations when I was a kid growing up. and. So when you when you go back to those situations, you almost lived it before you get the opportunity to do it. And then you know the the the second part it as as an adult. You know playing for Tony, the Dave Donkin. Tony always may situations bigger than they were You know a lot of my starts were against the other teams number one or the other teams number twos. Roger Clemens or or Jack Morris or frank or Chuck Finley or or teacher somebody like that in those were the guys that I was starting against. As. We moved on during the during the season especially in the latter part of the season, he always told me to. Play these games out is if they mean something that you're playing for something, make these big starts for you that helped me immensely when agenda postseason. Dave, would he st- specifically trion line you up against other teams specific aces to have those kind of games. But you start the season number pitching against number ones. But in allow situations especially with Roger, Clemens, in Morris. IF I wasn't alliance bitch against them. Then he would. He would pitch me on the fourth day. So that match ups were against those guys. Wow. Data Lot. that. I mean that's that's that's definitely a way to train yourself to get ready for the postseason. Make every start a big start. That's all you. That's all you get done in my opinion you have to you have to simulate. Those situations to be able to adopt to when you're actually in them. And You know I felt like. In postseason play. because I've done it. So many times I wasn't really bothered by the situation move by the situation emotionally. I had already learned how showed game down when I needed to or speed it up when I needed to and so. For me, it really becomes a matter of me. You know what's going to happen postseason you at least you know what the script is supposed to be. You know it's supposed to be low scoring. Is supposed to be games for you have to execute pitches and concentrate pitch by pitch and you can't have lapses. In you know fortunately, I was able to be able I was able to. To really focus in those situations. Now something like me early on I had to learn more I I feel like my first two postseasons I was just just. Trying to get through just thinking I was Gonna go out and dominate not really. You know worried about concentrating on every pitch in you know I. I feel like the results showed that when I got here to your point of making every start a big start like opening day was a big star. My first red sox start was a big star. Then I had a red sox start in August we're trying to get first place now was a big. Star. So I had all these you know biggest starts in my career leading up to the playoffs which I had already done it. You know what? I mean like I'm standing on the mound in the Bronx and game one I'm like up you know I've been here already. So it it it being able to learn that skill is something that It took me a while to to be able to to pitcher the postseason to to slow the game down. Plan in new. York in my opinion is a totally different thing anyone. You play. Bitch. New York you could play it fits in anywhere. In my opinion it saved and I never had that experience. The one experience I had to go come to New York I ended up going to Toronto. I was in. New York was competing with Toronto for my services and ninety three. Everybody that I've talked to about claiming in pitching in New York is if you don't go in with the right bind said. It's GonNa be a difficult time in unit. You know New York is crushed. Crushed some big, big guys. Are the best take them out. It's in New York. So. Think New York. As well. Yeah for sure. Did wasn't any added pressure like in Oakland like being at home like all of that you know. That pressure because that can be that could be tough to. You from the area so Exactly. E- pitching that whole man. It was just an opportunity for me to Talk Miss Dole the cast, it'd be talking to me. It was a basketball coach, Johnny Burke. and. He kicked me off the team twice the one season. Toby I would never go pete nothing so. I ran into johnny Iran Johnny over. Over. Great Repeats Place But. said a so so was deal now man He turned around on me and told me that he'll kick. It'd be off the team maybe to bed I grew up to. Our. Actually another question about going to Oakland, get your relationship with Reggie I know you had a relationship Reggie Jackson when you were younger growing up to the stadium can you tell us about that? I shoot, I have a relationship we have. A Reggie calls me his little. Bro. Amid Reggie man, you know. I never paid a never paid to get this statement back. I was. I was riding my bicycle I stayed probably a stone's throw from the. Coliseum. So get on my bike near my cousins Chena Bikes Union seventy, six station go down the tracks off the fence another boom you're right? Feel. and. So we were laying out in right seal. through BP in balls are being hit and Jack had his back to the hat is back to the infield. Just wait for us to stick our heads up. Screamed out at as he said. Hey. Illegal you guys. OUGHTA. This ballpark and I said. He couldn't keep us out of the ballpark. Far UC. So that was the start of it, and then after that game is crazy how things because ended up playing with Rick Bundy. Rick Monday of being by teammate with the dodgers. And so bowl hit a home run at night in my cousin. Kevin caught the ball and we waited after for plenty to come out. In Win. Bundy was seconded less and obviously regionals last gotta come out. So, Monday we asked him for the autograph vetoed us. You know. US will is denied a school night. We told him Yeah Deny School Ninety says. Give me an autograph. You need to go home and get yourself big ready for school tomorrow. Because camp called him an asshole. So. Ready came out after that. Reggie said Oh you had young. That was talking at NASA right fielder be. As, so He said, we all live. We told him where we live. And he asked to he said you guys, do you need a ride? We'll give you a ride. To Your House and I said, no man, we got our bikes chained up over to your seventy six days and I said besides a said don't ever take rides with strangers. got, up bicycles but he he was driving snow followed us all the way till our houses until we got to the house next day. About four o'clock. Passing down. Same Same Street haven scored. A looking for us. We were at the ballpark again. And to our meeting. And eventually friendship came from just seeing him out hanging out lifestyle. Then eventually, he was leaving US tickets to sit with him or sit with his girlfriend at the time. And I never saw Reggie again Has once I graduated. Until we played them in the world series in nineteen eighty one. At that time you know grown but you're facing. Aid to know who I was, Maso He wouldn't have this series bad. So I was there with my son Adrian. And we were dodger stadium and he was taking extra P P. And and so we were walking in the stadium and I said Shoot Bellamy golden reintroduced a cell town. So he'll know who I have. I walked up on. He stepped out of the cage. And he say. To new. I'm here trying to get my preparation and. Preparation Time and plus you play for the dodgers. I'll have time for the puzzle team you wasting my preparation, I said Reggie. Smith Little Stu. It's a little do. US. A. Yeah. Man. Man. And we've been. Case ever since that is an amazing story like amazing, oh my gosh that that's how we that's how we got reunited. I know and I've been around Reggie and you know if you catch Reggie on a good day, you catch them on a good day. Bad that you catch them on a bad day but. I can tell you this. I never had a bad day with Reggie Jackson ever. It's always been as he said, it's been like a brother to brother relationship I call him and talk to him about different things today. and he calls me on this his birthday. He doesn't Miss Mine That's that's that's our relationship. Doesn't believe. That's awesome. That's story is incredible. Absolutely incredible. Now, I gotta go I. GotTa. Go back on the Non Reggie part of the story Dave it was it was rick Monday who who did not. Sign the ball is that right? and. Did you tell did you tell them about that? When you play with not told me is a nineteen first spring training was in ninety. That was my first time pitching a big league cab. Was In seventy seven. and. So I saw rick Monday. And when I saw him. told him I said man. You are you are you're an asshole man? Who who were you because he didn't know it was my first big-league cap plus I had that big number or you know when you when you come into your first big-league capital, give you at eighty. piggly kept it. He said, who are you? used to play for, as I started, naming off all the players on the team and I said one night your first Major League home run me and my cousins were waiting outside for you. And you were at the second to last personnel wanted you to sign the ball. You would sign the ball. So he said. I remember now you said you call me an asshole. I call you. I'll tell you now he says. I have been an asshole there. Now. Don't ever asked me to sign a ball and and up that big giving me a nickname of Vegas and I still don't know why he gave me that nickname but Moen I mean we're we're close now to oh The way how just I mean how incredibly random hilarious is that your cousin catches his first home run ball. As crazy isn't it? They had just they had the team had just moved here from Kansas, city and sixty eight. and Reggie Rick Mundy Bangle. there was a guy named Ramon Webster. Those guys were all in their first year planning a big leads. And my cousin caught we obviously we they're opening day. And we caught we caught his well, my cousin caught his first home run ball. That's Ryan. That's when the Coliseum was actually a nice part to like before they built a Mount Davis there. Was a great park. You could see the open skyline and everything. It was great place place play baseball a beautiful place to go and watch a game. It was for sure yet what do you remember see about going and watching the as when you were a kid but like you say it was a beautiful place to watch the game like it was was wide open it. Wasn't that big section in the middle. Yeah you see like the mountains in it was you know it was his name Crazy. George. I used to be all over the place but like a he had like this drum, he'd be on top of the dam speaker over here the speaker over here and it was so loud and I remember like, have you been coliseum before Ryan I? Yeah to this this incarnation of a yes it was. It was loud saw. Aberdeen. So loud obviously the as me a really good and like everytime we went to the game may want. So it was just it was always a good experience. You know what's funny though you ask Dave about pitching at home and what that was like and I can remember the first time I went to the Coliseum see was actually your first start back there as a Yankee and you pitch well, you guys one but up until that point, I'm pretty sure you hadn't pitched that well in Oakland and it was like a thing right? It was like a you wouldn't pitch good there. So when you ask the question Dave, it made me wonder like Oh you know. was that a hard thing for you to do to pitch when you were at home around everybody for me? It was it was it was really hard thing for me to do because like he said I was always trying to prove to people. There's always people in your hometown that you always feel like you need to prove to no matter what you do. So I was always on an amount felt like I was I need to prove why I'm out here you know what I mean being so close to being so close to Oakland and it never worked out of the highest era my career in that in that stadium how no would I be like it was always grand. homers like seven walks game I just I I mean at the end I would just try to skip that trip like this. Let me pick Seattle because we would always go ANAHEIM OAKLAND SEATTLE. I pitch in Anaheim in Seattle let me give vocal. That's great. Dave. Pitching in in the eighties and then you know throughout to the mid nineties if you were going to name a hitter to who gave you the biggest trouble or who you know, you're like Gosh. This is the toughest guy for me to get out who are the hitters that come to mind. All start actually in the seventy and the eighties was Ken Griffey senior. And then. Ken Griffey senior. Has that same about to Asya can't Griffey Junior GIG. Repeat. Junior. I two major league hits. Ralph me at the Coliseum. Ib Motor. I didn't know that. So I was getting spanked podfather son Toke told. He must give you the scout report. said he said man but that he just told me. The law you pull, it capped out better you get. Up there, trying to hit the person cross late. Fall Molitor was tough for me a really tough out for me. And a guy that you would even think about. Who has the most home runs Asmi was born? Greg Vaughn. Wow. That's interesting. US One of those cases where. The more you try to get him out or I tried to get him out the stakes me across the middle of the plate. And and he wasn't missing those mistakes. that. Was Evan. Longoria for me all. Their I was like the one time. The triple is like. The underhand you. Go ahead and do what you GONNA do because I'm tired of like trying to wrack my brain trying to get I, go into games and be like I'm just doing all sliders today and he was still going three for four with a double winner a homer. You guys have A. Some that you both have in common is being workhorses right in addition to the postseason success that that you each have had you know is see you are known for that like in an era where guys were increasingly going shorter distances. You're going you're going eight innings, your throwing complete games you're going seven and two thirds. A stretch in two thousand nine where I forget how many straight starts it was completed at least seven innings when people weren't doing that anymore and Dave you go through a stretch in eighty, eight, eighty, nine, ninety where three years in a row you face more batters than anybody in baseball and you're throwing two, hundred, seventy, five innings and two, hundred, sixty innings and two, hundred, sixty, five innings. A I think sometimes we. underrate that part of the equation right just the fact that you're giving your team innings. How much pride did you have in that Dave knowing like, Hey, I got the ball. I'm GonNa Finish this or I got the ball bullpens basically getting a day off when gonNA amount. You know. Go, back to Tony Again Tony at the beginning of the year. Always. Stress how important it was to make your starts And to be dependable. you know I come into the big leagues took a different path than. I started out in the bullpen. With a strong desire to want to be a starter. and. So in eighty six when Tony came to this team and he gave me the opportunity to to be a starter net rotation. I was ready for that situation and wanted it in. Once things started rolling the way they did wasn't willing to to to give it up. The most important things for me were not were not a wins the most important thing for me was pitching innings. because if you jennings. You're going to get your wins and so. I think the one year that you've mentioned that I had to seventy five. That was a year I told him I was GonNa Pitch Three hundred. And he started taking me out of games man in. That year truthfully, I probably had close two hundred innings at the break. And he started taking me out of games after seven minutes E. Steaming. Because, you'll see that year I had complete games too but. Fourteen of them. So I'm a strong believer that. You know if you can pitch deep in gangs. It makes your bullpen that much better for the guy the next day. And v Pitches if he pitches deep, it makes it better for the guy the next day and so for me, it's all about. I tell you another thing truthfully in Colfax told me this. Equality Start is when you shake the hands of your teammates when the game is over. And that's that's what I live by. I'm so. It was important for me. It was a badge of honor. To. Pitch. Complete. Games to pitch a lot of innings during the course of the season and Tony's said well. He was concerned about you know my career at how long I be able to pitch in and my only concern was. The opportunity to be out there, and then I'll worry about I worry about my career as as things happen but. While I'm in this moment let me live in this moment. Let me do the things that I'm capable of doing and if I pitched for ten years or fifteen years or twenty years the so be it but. I. Want to do it the way I WANNA do it. Man That's crazy. That would he just said is when I was telling everybody when I was pitching in Milwaukee. If I, don't pitch another inning after this. Let me let me live right now. You know what I'm saying like I'm feeling good right now let me go like this. Is I feel I worry about everything hot unfolds after that you know what I mean yeah. I mean see did you also feel because? The game had obviously started to shift even more that way start to happen more and more when Dave's plan obviously, and then I'll. Figure anything other than let's try to make the playoffs. You know what? I'm saying like I like. It like when I was like whenever I was in the moment of pitching like it wasn't I didn't never thought further than that game or the or this series or the season. You know what I'm saying like it was always I was always just trying to stay in that moment and if I felt good in that moment, you bus believe when the ball three days later, if you need me to and then days after that if you need me to and if we gotta go oh nine, we only got three starters because we got off days. Guess what I'm I'm to take the ball game one, four and seven. It is it is what it is. Yeah. But did you also see? Did you have that like? That pride of knowing Hey, when I take the ball bullpens getting a day off or like we're only using low or. What. Because because you throw in eight innings eight in exhibit when people aren't doing that in two, thousand nine now I was trying to yeah, I mean like you said like stew said a quality start is when you stand out there shaking hands after the game with the catch, you know what? I mean. That was the only way the only way I measure the quality side and and after that, I was trying to figure out how it was going to do it again. So you know I mean, yeah. I was always to pitch his deep as possible into the Games in you know if that's one hundred and fifteen twenty pitches can take it's crazy it's crazy See, just made a good point you you pitch a good game and then you don't really get a chance. If you doing it the right way, you don't get a chance to enjoy your work because the preparation your niche start. Begins the mets Dash. And and now you're dissecting figuring out your game clan in Guam going back over everything that you've done against that particular team for career and what's made you successful form. The guys that do it right? They don't have a chance man. You know pat themselves on the back because the next child is starts right away. And So. That was a really really the point that you made their menu. You just don't have time. You don't have time to sit back and relax because it's it's. Going it's going twenty. You got thirty five starts to make in a one year. I had thirty seven. So you gotta you gotTa Get yourself prepared ready got your physical preparation. Edward the mental preparation. To Grind. You know when you're number one started there's a there's a responsibility on you that nobody can even imagine. and it's it's it's it's the responsibility of hope when you come in the clubhouse. And your teammates looking at you when you've lost four straight. In looking at you to beat the data ended. It starting at first game in the playoffs his starting at first game of the world series. It's the beginning of the season when people are saying and they're talking you, they're chalking you up in the market down. He's GonNa Start. Thirty five games and we go get sixteen ws out of him. You know that is a huge responsibility that. One can possibly stand unless you wear those shoes. Did you ever have a situation where you let's say. Teams struggling or or whatever. It's just a game you need to win you got the ball and you actually verbally say to your teammates. Fellas don't worry. I got this I. got you today like, did you ever actually verbalize that two teammates at any moments? The only did that one time in my career we were playing the Toronto Blue Jays in nineteen, ninety two. It was actually the last start I ever made. For the nine, hundred, ninety, two playoffs. Had given up a bomb against Robbie Alamar. We're down. Down Three Games to one. In the guys are wondering. If. Guys are wondering if we're GONNA have to give, we're going to get on the plane to go to Toronto for the next for the let's start so. We got one more home game and made a clubhouse was quite usually after the game we got music. Plan. Win. LOSE WE GOT MUSIC PLAYING TALKING MESS They everybody was quiet. And In Mickey. Morabito. Who's our childhood secretary had said? Well, I, don't know what we're GONNA do tomorrow. As far as how we prepare to or if we're not gonNA travel, he said the best thing to do is just Make sure you pack your stuff. In just have it here, and if we go, we go in and when I stood up. In actually stood up on the food table when I said it I, said Hey. Tomorrow. You guys be prepared. To go to Toronto. If the SUNSHINES WE DON'T WANNA baseball game if I'm on the mile, so be ready to go. And hit. TORONTO. Man, somehow. Because I saw Joe Carter coming into the stadium this. This is this is one of the this is one of those moments you never forget but I, never really thought about it I never really thought about it. I was walk in in those days. You can either park in in in in s Nada you can park in Centerfield and walk through Centerfield to the clubhouse. Now's one of those guys that one hour before the game I'm coming to the stadium before I h I waste a whole lot of time. At the stadium on the days that I pitched I, come in one hour before. I was walking through center field. Toronto was city. CARDIS. For right field all you get in wisdom. Joe. Just be ready to hit baby be ready. And you go and you throw a complete game and you. Through wanted to ask I know you know I obviously, I looked at the you in my idol on the mound. But who you guys that you looked up to growing up who would guys that you? Really looked up to the guys that you know some of the Black Aces obviously reported at group yet at a really looked up to see you know you know my main dude he just passed away Bob Gibson. Was was beaming guy for me when I was growing up, he was the guy that You Know My by folks by Daddy in particular brought me to every baseball game that ever went to when I was a kid and he always told me. You know because I I didn't get a chance to see Don nukem pitch. So He's this guy if you ever decide, you're going to be on the mound you ever decide you're gonNA pitch. This is the Guy Saddam nukem was was. New. Bob Gibson was the was the number one guy for me that I really admired and wanted to be like and I wanna do everything that he did. That was that was the guy for me. Bob Gibson. Did you develop a what kind of relationship did you have with Bob then and in the years after you rose to prominence Dave you know I had the opportunity to meet Bob Gipson through Reggie Smith. Who played with Bob In after that relationship I was young and Bob said, he knew who I was as a pitcher but. Even with Bob being out. Of the game. You know he was still tough guy to read in a tough guy because he didn't talk a lot. A quiet. Man In actually softspoken. Domin. So he didn't talk a lot at that time, but as time went on, I got older in a game. And started establishing who I was in the game. I had opportunities to meet and be around him a little bit more. And you know he would. If you ask him about stories that you heard about him. He would share those but he wouldn't openly tell you things about himself. we talked about we talked about the Negro Leagues and One of the things that he talked about even though it to only happened four year was when he played for the Harlem Globetrotters, we gotta tie in that really is one of the first times that I remember him. Sharing a lasting smile and actually laughing about those times that he played with the globetrotters. Later. On we did a twenty twenty, twenty, one card show actually in New Jersey. And we. Drove in from the airport together in road back to the airport together and. I remember asking him I said. ACID- Givi. I've got a question for. We said, we would you. Say You got to tell the truth. Assert. You hit a lot of. Your time. How many of those were intentional? and. He looked at me like. I'm never hit anybody on purpose. Amazing Very. I mean Dave, you were known for having this intimidating style as well. How much of that that style? That intimidation were you motivated by from from watching Bob Gibson Gibson but. A lot of it was. That I was extremely well when I was learning how to pitch I was a catcher in high school and became a pitcher year baseball. And so Sandy Koufax Admin Instructional League my second year after I had won a game at walked more people than I had innings pitched and was really struggling with it. It's so sandy said. Take you mechanics we're going to turn them all around. We break everything down and just do this all new and he and he told me his story how he was wild when he first played. Back, in his time, you sent for a hundred thousand dollars. Dollars you had to go immediately to the big. Leagues. So he was wild for his first few years in the big leagues. So. He said, try this get on the mound lower, your cap as low as you can. To the point where you can still see the catcher. In. So I did that. At the lowest point was I couldn't see the catcher's head, but I could see from his shoulder. Down Any said now throw the baseball. The baseball in everything that I through was in that area. Versus being wild high and you know out of the strike zone everything through was was down in the zone. And that's how I came to start lowering my cap and. Look at. People. That people grew. That people grew to see. How the Colfax. Abby. Amazing. Pitching coach heard I mean I always hear stories about how great of a picture he wasn't I read his book but like always hear how good he was like instruction wise like getting guys to to really understand their delivery. You know he was he was simple around Paradise Naski, who just passed away was our pitching coordinator at that time, and then eventually my major league pitching coach. but Sandy, mid-eighties, he he he he he made it. So I could relate to him and his struggles when he was wild. And he made it all. He just made it easy when he was breaking down the mechanics and telling me what the important parts of my mechanics were. Things that I hadn't. I've never heard from Ron Chernow's Oscar before and so it was easy for me to put those things in motion once I was shown and told what to do so he was great man and Quite. Frankly, I hated the dodgers when I was a kid growing up because. They were they were they were you know nemesis for the giants and I remember when John Rules brew got hit upside the head by one shell and you know I remember Colfax Drysdale coming in and Dustin Willie mays often I remember all that I hated the dodgers. When I got to know Sandy That was one of the best things that I did I stayed in contact and communication with him even after I left the dodgers and he was always helpful whenever I called on him. That's so cool. I mean it. It's just amazing that to to be able to go back and and trace where the you know where the intimidating stare comes from with the lower cap. Being Sandy Colfax I mean how cool is that it was in he never wore his cap like that but he taught me how to get down in the strike zone and how to be able to throw strikes in the year after I was with him in instruction a I come back the next season when eighteen games those eighteen and four. Winning no games I didn't win. Any. Games. Here, a mateen to four. That's that's incredible. The amazing. It's amazing. Dave. You also Oh, go ahead. Say Now I was wanted to ask you about another team yours Bob Welsh. GotTa. Yeah I got I got a chance to read his book when I was going through my struggles in Rehab, and it really brought me through the other side being able chance get chance to read this book and knowing struggles and what he went through. But I forgot that you guys play together. So you need stories about many industries. you know. All the way back to the mid seventy, seventy, eight and. One of my best friends man and and you know things happen for him quick. He got he got drafted and before you knew it, he was in the big leagues pitching against the Yankees in one of the one of the best known world series ever member and I got tons of stories by bobby man shoot bobby was competitive than this competitive. He was back in the day I used to use. This this this equipment called burst Bursa climber. So I had I had a climber that I put clubhouse. And Three or four days later, all set. As another worst decline recovered. Class. Wealthy he man he could run. For days he was, he could run for days He could run distance so far. that. We had a run that we call the Wiley Coyote run and we named it after him because nobody ever finish the run. So willingness I climb he said most new he put the heartless. You put the heart Mata journalists that costume and let's go. Man Let's go. Let's. Needless to say man. He warm up what out on. So it's great traded. So spring training you wear in Arizona. He said, come on let's go. Let's go for a run and I'm already learned I. told him I said well, man I'm not running. Not. Running. No ten miles which you. Man. Makomo. Male, which is go for run for quick run with come back. So we're at municipal stadium, which in Arizona is is often McDowell damn buren tempe is distant probably four five miles. So we take off running outside the stadium and we're running. and. We're running sweat like a pig because it's hot. And I look up and I said Well Gee and where the hell are we he said I don't know maybe. A little bit more than we'll turn. Back. A wealthy man we've been running for over our man. I said I'm going back then he said you know she said Yeah So. I'll standard on, the corner Well, what are you waiting for going back smell the hell we add up taking a cab back. I. I live. Literally, ill, the kill cab back bed to get back to municipal stadium. Amazing. Story I Dave you're ahead of your time with the Versa Climber Man Lebron James is all about the versa call man killing efforts climate until he got me. You met. These stories are incredible and you're you're a man who not only had this remarkable success as a pitcher, but you also have had several different roles in organization. Since you know you've been in front offices, YOU'VE BEEN G&B been. Pitching coach you've kind of done at all. Would you look at the landscape? Of Today's. Organizational structure and sort of the way that I guess Baseball Operations has evolved and coaching evolved and and and the game on the field. Just, what are some thoughts you have about the game today maybe some concerns things you like. Things you want people be careful of. Just about the state of the game today. Plenty last night I sent out a sent out a tweet which. You. Know I'm not. Going to be honest I'm not the best at twitter. None of us are. Listening to John, smoltz throwback hall of Famer. Him Talk about some of the records that these guys are break in. You know I think it's He was talking about Kershaw career wins and. And you know some of the some of the stuff in foundation that's being laid out right now my tweet was. I love today's game I do. But when he's guys out there shattered breaking these records. It's easy to do today because you've got all these different layers. You got wildcards you got division. League Championship and then you got the world series. When most of these numbers were being put up? For example, by me the championship world series is all we had. and. So when you talk about twelve wins, if I'm not mistaken, I got eleven a twelve wins. In postseason and We didn't have as many layers as yet right now and so. I just think that when you look at today's game in east today's players talk about how strong how much stronger they are harder they throw. you know track man. I'm has put guys in a position to look by everybody throws a hundred. When we were doing radar when I was throwing. The radar would collect the information once it hit the CATCHER's glove, not out of the pitcher's hand. The fastest will ask you that you're going to see his auto, the pitcher's hand, and that's where tracked man takes. Velocity doesn't take once it hits the catches. Between the love and The pitchers hands, there's probably a two to three mile an hour difference. So hundred might be one, hundred, hundred wants it hit the Very well, ninety, six or ninety five. And so. I love today's game I love how? Baseball is trying to find a way to to get young kids back into the game. don't like the values of today's name. If, we're being point blank honest of I. Don't like the values of today's gains I don't like the fact that you don't try to manufacture Russ that the home run is is a is a big thing and you're waiting around for people to hit the ball out of the ballpark versus manufacturer runs in moving runners hitting running stealing. I don't like the fact that aren't smart enough to outweigh the shell that you that you playing to. The. Shift instead of you know do what? Tony Gwynn did for a career, which is hit the ball fields spray the ball. SACK. That five innings is acceptable now for starting pitchers. And that not only is five minutes acceptable but they have a hundred pitches in five innings. And so. I mean, there's a lot of things about the game that I do love. There are a lot of things about the game that I don't love. I don't think that you should be given awards out for this year season I mean shoot you see you WanNa Sigh. How do you feel about guys only throwing twelve gains win the CY young only pitching pitching loud. Even sixty innings when it's It's not even that it's just pitching in the same division like you pitched in. He pitched in central holds like the guys don't win the CY young pissing central the whole time like he pitches one game out of the central. And it's against the Yankees in the plaza and he gives six months. You know what I'm saying. So and even that pressure pitching down the stretch with like with the CY young on the line like those are playoff games your last three starts in September. If you got the CY young hanging on your back does is playoff who you pitching against those the playoff games you know so it's different. So I mean that's that's my take one on the game that they I love it. There are a lot of things that I don't love about it because it strays away from the real tradition of the game was about. Baseball was America's number one sport for as long as it was. If you like I mean obviously grown up watching your teams Plato's as teams the athleticism you know manufacturing runs buttoning running. You know you guys did hit balls out of the ballpark but it guys if you could manufacture mookie daylight with ricky would do that all the time I saying you know what I'm saying he gets on still second and third ground balls wanted nothing and that's the baseball I grew up watching in love and so I understand. What you're saying for sure. I mean we we took pride in beating you down in every way. You know if we didn't hit will go pitch you if weeded pitch, we go out we were GONNA out score you if the games were equal and it was a close game, you can believe we're gonNA to still basis hit run open up holes new through runners motion but should I be Roger Clemens one nothing on it on a squeeze play so We did everything we could to win baseball games and that's unfortunate. Today's game where you got late innings runners on first and second would newhouse initialing in there swinging away verses budding runners over. That's that's the unfortunate thing about today's game. You know the one thing that I think. From an entertainment value that's missed too is when you don't have that stuff. The isn't as exciting, right? Like that's that's the other thing you're missing. It's it's not. It's not just like, okay well is this the most effective strategy? It's well, the game is not as pleasing to the eye if all of a sudden I don't have that kind of running right and I don't have as much contact and I don't have much action then and now all of a sudden the game is not is not as entertaining even if even if you wanted to what's our strategy to get to a win okay. But what about what's the best thing for the audiences I as well and that's a that's another angle I think supports a little more little more movement little more running little more a little more strategy as far as moving runners over making contact a game to. Game. Day In my opinion is is easy to play. Today's baseball is easy. because there is little strategy. Managers now are getting their lineups sent to them by in the game for most of the managers in today's game is played by script versus instinct in feeling for the moment. He. He's right I. Mean it's a lot easier to play in the big leagues today just because you only have to be good at one thing like you can. You know back when in the day you had to be able to hit run through all that like now you have one of those skills and they'll find a place for you know what I'm saying like it wasn't like that back in the day where you had to be able to to actually play in the field. Now they'll just they'll find a place for you and not worry about the defense the value of the home run. Dave this has been amazing. Your stories are. They're just incredible. Incredible, they are legendary. That's what they are Thank you. Thank you so much for coming on with us because. I've I've co-hosted with C. we know each other a long time and and for years now though with the podcast and say you come up like every other podcast sees going to bring up Dave Stewart, it's GonNa. It's GonNa. Hey See before we go you wanna tell Dave about artwork. I'm getting these tattoos on my on my legs. I'm getting like my favorite athletes growing up. So I'm GonNa get you. Let me get Bo Jackson and my cousin I grew up with he's like my big brother he passed away but he played the NFL for a little bit. So I'm get I'M GONNA get those three guys is like my you know those guys I looked up to in the reason why so that that's my those are my tattoos. Jonah Brother who before I died embarrass you. got. Added what a perfect note to finish up on Dave thank you so much. I can't wait for C. to get the Tattoo and show you it. Was Good to be on C.. Thank you so much men are. You man appreciate. The feeling of a really. That I've done something good my life span. Thank you very much brother. Ma, appreciate you in like I said, thank you wouldn't be sitting here. If it wasn't for, you ought never took the mound. I would've never took serious and you know you my idol man I grew up watching you. So you know I, appreciate you everything everything you've done. A good thing. We'll see those Dave Stewart stories I could listen to all day man. that. Reggie Jackson story is mind blowing. How Insane? Meeting him as a kid and those interactions and then getting to go up against him in the world I mean just incredible right like. Walking up to him I mean because you know how we originally. But like Sue said, I've never had a bad day rage either it's all know it's all been been great for me. So I couldn't imagine trying to go up and reintroduce myself to him though. Also that they had that relationship early I knew that story I just wanted everybody to to hear it and and and just not connection that you know some of these people from the bay area have You know with the as and why we love that city in that town so much because you know the players that play, there were part of the fabric part of you know us and you know going back to stu come into my boys and Girls Club, you know what I'm saying life the players were really in a community and that was something that really struck home with us. You know being from the Bay and obviously it turned into. Me Don't what I'm doing now. So yeah I mean it's it's it's It's great to be able to hear those stories in here. How was passed down to you? Well. Absolutely fantastic stuff from Dave. Stewart you guys know the deal new episodes, every Thursday download listen rate review, get it on spotify or wherever you get your podcast. We also throw him bonus episodes. 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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) What kind of punishment should Alex Cora get?

Mornings with Keyshawn, Jorge & LZ

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Mornings with Keyshawn, LZ and Travis (HR 4) What kind of punishment should Alex Cora get?

"That's you Houston the cheaters. Red Sox joining us here in studio. CNBC Eddie's on Tuesday Nassar Clean Today. Today he's Fernandez at night and tomorrow. Lots of dodgers stuff to get to Lakers win big last night against the cavs. Lsu Is your college football. National Champion. Joe Borough undefeated Heisman Trophy winning national championship season That young man cleaned up all the postseason awards. Now national title sixty touchdown passes for Joe Borough and Zion Williamson fell asleep on the best last night. I'm watching his team. Play when you told me initially because I didn't see it last night I was caught up in the other stories. You told me. Initially I was like Man Star Star. I sent you the video and then I thought well maybe because it's a twenty point game ca. No three minutes three three points to two minutes ago. Fourth Quarter Order three point game and the pisses are on the line. I'm sitting there like you have courtside seats at this moment. He looking like just finished Thanksgiving dinner recliner past ties Republican but he was tired. You probably work out. He probably worked out before the game. I'm probably tire probably had to bite the EU nice pouring or any of the game probably so boring. He just wasn't it was nine cowboy. It's not on the court. It's boring when you're not playing. It could get boring to you a three point game two minutes to go. I'm just telling you. Did you watch the game. You know I was watching fall asleep. All right so Clinton we've been talking about it all morning long last time. You were here where they're getting ready to do something thing. Yep Now we know what the something is. Let's start right here. Your reaction to the actual punishments that were handed data punishments that were handed down. Were Fair I thought they were his surprisingly surprisingly accurate for what could hurt a team. Not necessarily what could hurt an owner but the Astros Organization is deeply affected by this two first round. Sounds in two second rounds in the next two years is going to a whole lot more than a fine is GonNa do. It's going to do a whole lot more than firing a manager is GonNa do and I'm not saying it's going to do more than what getting getting rid of a GM he's GonNa do but docking players hurts hard but let me explain something to you. All I heard you talking about this earlier in the day. Maybe he didn't know every single person in baseball keyshawn Johnson knows crane new. And you know why because it's not about the fact that owners may or may not be involved offshore not involved. It's about who this specific dude is. People tend to remember long history and forget short history Z.. What team did Crane Charter by Hi in Twenty Eight. That would be the astros. Oh then he pulled out because Oh he was signed negotiating by the Rangers with guess who Mark Cuban and that didn't work out. They got outbid Mark Cuban most hands on owner in the NBA. This guy obviously one of the more hands on guys because he was at the front front lines talking about how he was the one who was involved with why they were making the switch to what they were making. There's no scenario in which the person you put out there and the person who was showed was not a person who was involved. MLB didn't want him to begin with with one team. They let in the guy that they knew sidebar his previous companies Benghazi for an EEO violation. which you you said? You can't hire black people because then you can't fire him because he was that level of an integrated guy into his into stuff like him. What I'm seeing? This dude was a hands on guy showed himself as much so in the cheating comes out. You can't be like I know you can't do that but he also golfs with Obama. So that's funny. When he presented himself he presented himself into line himself with one of the most hands on only because he wanted to buy the rangers to move to the other end zone owner in the NFL? If you are if we're all reading this stuff and people out there that are listening or reading this stuff to one thing that you'll see that's written in almost every single piece about this. Is that the Astros Eve and this is important. Even even by professional sports standards the Astros operated on a bottom line basis. Are we winning or not not. How are we winning? Not How are we doing this. But are we winning. There was a culture in that building. And you have to assume that it comes from ownership. You can know. We'll have to assume that was. We are going to win no no matter. What by any means necessary so for him to stand up there and say that? Oh when I found out I dismissed. Aj hinch when I found out I dismissed Jeff Luna it just it rings brings incredibly high. It's a lie. And that's the thing is that you say the benefit you say but one might say oh the benefit of the doubt or the doubt has been disproven in a literal court of law and and he tried to align himself with one owner. Who did not want found his way back to I team which is shocking and you know what else they gave this? Do Seventy million dollars off the the team so we could switch. Leagues a still turns around and cheats. That's when an owner owner group. Says you know what we gotta find this do we gotta take some of the TV money. You gotTA banging with the bigger find. Because he wants him with all our bottom line not just the look of the League. The Max take from him five million new those rules but you could find ways if you as the owner group comes to the commissioner and say Oh we're cutting guy out of the TV deal or at least we're doing something where he did not present lesser not cheat like after we gave you money to join a league are going to be able to do that. Because in the laws it's five million dollars no matter how you slice it they they're not gonNA open themselves up to litigation trying to take money from TV deal and things of that nature they probably could could do more. In terms of making the franchise suffer by expanding. The draft picks that they You know they were first the second the first the second two years they'd probably get extended to four five years. That would hurt the team. which then affects hurts the bottom line but they certainly can't go in and I'm not a legal analyst or anything he liked about? I know right. I know that they're not going to be able to touch his money from television standpoint and then as far as him knowing let's assume he did no They're not GONNA do anything to into what they did. They just not at the end. If you say you can't sell anything that even mentions you winning world champion okay. So let's just take the title which brings us for the next thing the idea of vacating the title and I we started the show. Six o'clock we. We started the show. And they kidding this. This doesn't feel we. We saw. We know what happened because I I I made the mistake of thinking this was like the USC thing it's not you you turn me around that Chelsea pretty quickly about why it's important to vacate this title. And it's not about us in a room is nothing about the listeners in the car. It's about our kids and their kids and when they go through the books and they look at start having conversation about great teams of certain eras to. Where do we do today? Ouster the white space if there's a blank space there they're going to say. Hey what happened here. If there's not blink space is says Houston Astros 2017 champion like Oh Houston Championship. Then and they won't know the history it happens all the time and other aspects everyday life when you don't remind look at the story with Colin Kaepernick as a recent example. When you don't remind people why he's not in the league they may start trying to bleak trying to tell you that he wasn't good enough to play Amen? My if you don't crack the people you get Julia Roberts mind up to play. Harriet Tubman a story. That was so long. Negotiate a quote water sample the quote from the source. It was so long ago. People won't remember. So we're just stick and Julia Roberts play you gotTa check these people everywhere longer and his are very job as journalists to do that to document history. I Don who are these people right. And that's the thing those people don't be dead and gone. WHO's looking in a book? You Click Wikipedia who Kapiti to look up the God hyperlink the rest of the market themselves as world champions market yourself from being a world. Get the hang that banner they call themselves. Yes it's crazy. No trade is hard enough to get people to the initial story you want people to my doors is another story. I think people are GonNa Forget because you I don't think vacating it gives you any sort of reasonable remember it anymore the nationals. I'm not nervous about anything. Caning as childish doesn't make sense to me because guess what because honestly Clinton if I walk into the restaurant right with me if I walk walk into a restaurant and you are Super Fan and you see me and I have my ringling right in you. You'RE GONNA look in chances. Are you probably will come over. There is say man Dan. Can I see that right. If I don't have a regular Joe I just sat superfood. I'm not calling you a superfan. Okay yeah you are regular I'm like Super Regular Joe but if I'm walking restaurant and you see that or we're at a cocktail reception and we're all standing around you're looking at marine and you're going to probably as a fan asks the question to vacate that and I take that from you and you don't walk into the restaurant or their club where we're at. I don't have the ring on. Their conversation never happened. Well hold on. Are you saying that vacating a title means that guys on the team was not wearing rings. Inquest yes absolutely okay. Why would you wearing that? You didn't win. Necessarily I mean you take care now one more example your generous. Do you know Janet Cookies. Yeah why the Great Giannakou lies. Why turn logistical is? She won the Pulitzer yes. Ma'am a story made Sewri if she doesn't give that Pulitzer back you don't remember her bad. That's a huge difference in vacating not vacating to use them more. Recent example. Vacating Reggie Bush's heisman trophy win vacating. USC's run through that Arab. Because Reggie Bush played is stupid nor because hold on only because Reggie Bush did not gain a competitive advantage because his parents got house absolutely R- Reggie Bush and the US trojans did not stomp everybody's they played because Reggie Bush got a car. Okay the Astros rose not only away. She made up before two astro. Yeah but s sees not benefiting economically of Bush's name likeness and image image because he had to vacate okay all of those relationships players euro but this is different because maybe they don't be the Yankees in the AFC s maybe they had a comp- this is not cheating. Where hey we got an extra this that or the next thing or we? We gave our players access to this this club. It's it's nothing like that. They had a competitive advantage because of their cheating. Therefore I don't know the result of the contest is illegitimate. Uh I agree. That's why it needs to be a race. I don't think in the context of right and wrong. Vacating is not would make sense. I think in the context of what actually makes a difference outside of the ring thing which the hadn't thought of Pedro Gomez reported last yesterday that the Astros probably made sixty million dollars on winning in two thousand seventeen. Give back sixty million dollars. I that that to me is a much bigger and more impactful thing than vacated because vacating to me okay. There's no there's no banner I remember I was there. You know what I'm saying. You remember about Jimmy. I get that in the competition sense but the money made is why you want to win. That's why these are in for and if Jamaica give back the money hurt harder than it does to simply say you can't wear your ring around town or you can't wear the t shirt that says you want it. That's that's the person you miss. It all depends upon what motivates the team since Mister crain acquired it has essentially quadrupled. It's worth according to Forbes. That's part of the winning the championship. But it's also so part of build up to the championship and not winning the championship this season as well. There's no true way to know. The tentacles of how much money can be tied to the cheating cheating scandal but what can be definitive is the fact that if you vacate that championship. He doesn't get to say world series champion. There's no banner banner. It's an honor no rain and when you go to the country club no one's looking at you the same way to looking at some of the other owners of champions that actually one don't due breaking new. What do you got the? TV's are working news. Madison Visa and got our. TV's turned back on. So Alex Cora Laura is the ringleader. He has not been punished yet. What's HE GONNA get? That's next so it is official. The Astros are cheaters. uh-huh we know this because Major League Baseball handed down a penalty. The Astros will not have a first or second round pick in the two thousand twenty Major League Baseball draft or in the twenty twenty one major really baseball draft. They suspended their general manager. Jeff Luneau for a year they suspended. Aj hinch the manager for a year. They subsequently fired or the Astros subsequently fired both of those guys so when their suspension have been served they're going to have to find new jobs next on. The clock is Alex Cora who's specifically mentioned in the report as somebody that that was involved in the implementation of this and yes. That clock is ticking. Pretty Loud Jeff. Passan joined US earlier this morning. And he said that Alex Cora it's GonNa hit hit harder than anybody so so far I think outscore is going to have a long suspension than Hinson Lanao. And because he was really like if you read through this you know rob Manfred wrote. This was a player driven scheme with the exception of Alex. Score in. Like when when you're a with the exception of not a good place to be and and so to have To have not just that on your resume but then to go to Boston and have the allegations that You help lead scheme game there as well does not bode well for him. Going forward and If you're going to get another job he mike okay. We will get to whether or not not. He should get hit harder but for a second. Let's assume that he does get hit harder. If one year and losing their current jobs was the penalty for the guys in Houston. What what? What is a reasonable expectation for? What's coming from Alex? Cora where I think you you first of all. He's got to be fired right. I mean in in their general. Imagine probably is on the line as well so the same sort of thing that happened to Astro should probably happen in Boston. And maybe a little deeper over and he probably should be see. It's hard to say he should be banned from baseball. If you're not going to ban the other guy from rice bowl hinch because at the end of the day is at Hinch as I told you before if I'm following your lead and you decided you go the next door neighbor's house to take the oranges and I'm following. I'm still in two in you. Leave to go down the street and I'm still they're stealing. You taught me everything. I'm still doing it. You supposed to get a harsher punishment just because you decided to leave. We've no you get the same punishment across the board what is harsher punishment isn't a lifetime ban is in a two year suspension. Pete Rose Lifetimes A LIFETIME BAN IN A. It's such a complicated question to me. Because of who else core is what he represents dance and how you have to be careful not to appear as the white man who are guilty are getting a lesser punishment. And then the Latino who is guilty and the reason why pointing that out is because he's the only the second Puerto Rican and manager to win the world series. He's only the Third Latino to actually lead Tito Championship is going to be replaced in Boston. I doubt aww within a Latino you got the guy and Mets Carlos Beltran. He's probably GONNA lose his job. IS HE GONNA be replaces. You know what I'm saying. There is a domino effect. That's impacting what has been really good progress for Major League baseball in terms of equal opportunities. That's going to be undermined by this. And they have to be careful because it's real easy to keep it all on this guy here and then when the punishment is all said and done the white guys are right back in baseball. And the Latino is sitting out there with a lifetime ban on what's up for for what it's worth. The interim named the Astros. Joe Estrada. Who is Puerto Puerto Ricans? So there's a chance there that they do replace that your point is exactly correct though because not only is is he the crow. EXCUSE ME WE'RE GONNA win it all. He didn't in his rookie season and he did it. In the world series in which the only time only time to managers of color of ever faced off against each other reading here. Here's my point though. I don't think even remotely looking at this the same way if they don't win the world series and that's perhaps unfair in the context of what we can just call case law but it's it's to natural thing because if the if the Red Sox won the world series that year they don't even make the playoffs and let's just say they wash out in the Al.. I think Major League Baseball is that concerned about it because it got the high. That's why they feel that they have to guard while he would've never told he'd probably within never snatched it out if they didn't win the reason he was because the Astros and guys losing their jobs. And that's what he said he didn't say it was because of what they want is probably because of what they want. And he wasn't on the on the The winning the world series as a rookie manager is a large part about why I think he's going to get your hair in the context of what you can't I just flip that and say the reason it's they. They won the world series both in Houston in Boston because Alex Cora implemented cheating cyst okay but they didn't win the world series against the nats. And I'm I'm not saying that's bring up the nets. I'm seeing that like between those two things. I've really honestly think that the commissioner looks at that and says Yo you won the world series Bro. We have to do something and I think that. That's it's not that it's unfair to the concept of punishment but it will be unfair in terms of what you mentioned. He was sue teams that he was directly linked to that one back. So let's be clear. I think he should be banned for life but I think that the reason for their Aj hinch and Jeff Luna should be banned for life. Yes let's not. Forget about the appeals process. Pete Rose has lost lost a lot of appeals. Because he's been a real jerk after the fact. I don't think that these people won't get banned in appealing. It back in. I think that's a very real possibility however I do think all these guys I've been telling on that from the beginning some life stops. I think that it's going to come down on a C.. Though because he moved outside of the system and one somewhere else and that is an easy thing to point to you. And say you you know what I can prove your cheating because you were that good elsewhere as well. What is it Clinton? Maybe you know I don't spend a Lotta time there. What is it with Boston? Just being cheerful let me taste on. The first time I went to Boston in Washington player in the world series might be the last today talk to nature that think about the world series. No they didn't but before you got the two thousand what the two thousand and four was PD fueled Two thousand seven. PD's not two thousand eighteen signs deal and all the gates up there and what the Celtics are doing wrong. The bruins cheat information on the BRUINS. This is just so weird. It's like why he and his like. Are you getting busted cheating waiting because you so close New York and New York City and extra people in that investigation. What is it about that region and these chips that come with these asterix out of Boston and the it's a good question and it's not just the teams it? It's not just that the red SOx cheated the dodgers the astros cheated the dodgers the red sox and the Astros there's cheated the other teams that they beat in the postseason to get there. They probably cheated. She gets some regulars you know they. They altered the legacy of a bunch of guys they did Clayton. Kershaw is looked at a certain way and that certain way is directly connected to the fact that he's never had never that he has not won a world series and he has struggled mightily in the postseason against if he gets one if he wins in Houston that game where they had a four-run leave and they had a three run lead. He's he's peyton manning he's drew brees a guy that has had all sorts of weird stuff happened in the postseason has performed way below the standard that he set during the regular season. But if he's got one one we don't treat drew brees like a jump. We don't treat Pat Peyton manning like John we will see Clayton Kershaw. Yeah well I mean right what send you kershaw right. I'm shaking in my boots. The one person I know Travis who. I'm really happy for is Dave Roberts like because they re signed him and imagine if the gotten canned based on what had happened and you find find out that they let him go for things that I'm not saying it's a direct link but I'm seeing if that yet another situation where not necessarily a manager of color but a guy who was basically just ground work the laws. I'm so glad they resigned. Him To me doesn't get resigned though if if he doesn't get on the hot seat if it's not a BERTA perfect perfect if he wins and seventeen. He's not on a hot seat in nineteen to begin. That's what I'm saying. That's why I said earlier. He probably manages different in nineteen nineteen in certain situations because seventeen and eighteen went a different dialect hundred percent. He he said that we hold on a second. We how what decisions incisions did he make with. Joe Kelly Clayton Kershaw that were directly related to decisions. He made in twenty seven. I wouldn't necessarily say directly is just one of those deals where you don't you think in a lot. What ideas in seventeen what happened in eighteen? Maybe I shouldn't do this now because I did something similar. Aw Change my mind at the wrong time in seventeen and eighteen and now I'm in nineteen now I'm GonNa Leave Kershaw in to get to Soto. Probably what did different if we will seventeen and eighteen. That's how I'm thinking. Yeah the institutional knowledge and the fundamental makeup of your strategy. DNA changes intellectually serious. That if you believe something that affects how you game plan and how you make decisions in game but that actually based on a lie look the team. No I'm just telling you it happens. L. Point of we've if the nationals debacle goes exactly the same same way but Dave Roberts has a world series championship in his back pocket because they beat the Astros. Were not get him out. That that part I presented by then I four that part I group. But this idea that because the dodgers didn't lose to the red sox because Dave Roberts botched a bunch of decisions they didn't lose to the Red Sox have is in his mind. He's sitting there. He doesn't know that they're okay. They're doing this Bam. Am out the. Oh He's thinking. Why did I do that? Yeah why did I lose into late. Internalize and mistakes if they never or whatever the hell well. They're doing videotape and a phone tap into whatever they never doing that. He doesn't think that he's not processing that way. Just it it happens like that I would also argue Arja Travis that he also if he has the ring under his belt. He's given a little bit more rains to do something versus what that front office is ruined. He has to do in terms of the numbers in those late game situations. I think it changes a uh-huh maybe put. He's probably doing everything they're telling them and it's working out except they don't know that they're being cheated green with you. It would have been given more leeway understand that was right and it's kind of unfair signing. Here's what I'll say for sure. I'm glad that there's finally at least something that explains explains what the hell he was doing because what he was doing against the Nazis. Still you here. We are several months after the fact. And it's still like wait. He he did what he did. If there is some extenuating circumstances key that he was for lack of a better word shell shocked from what happened against the Astros and the Red Sox and elbow here we go again. I don't know what to do but at least that's something as opposed to Y'all let it roll Joe Kelley again. Leave him out there leaving him out there. At least they're so well think about it from thinking about it this way in seventeen game seven. What happened Yu? Darvish got chased. Yeah I wouldn't have been cursing doors at in in in humiliating his son as is one of those fans if they didn't cheat now I feel bad that I went after you darvish. His son saw that would've never took place if they wasn't sheet jeans and think about the other managers if they're not sheeting. Does Joe Girardi lose his job at the Yankees manager or or does he have now to rings as a Yankee manager and now he's looking at being talked about as a hall of fame manager because he didn't have to deal with cheating bosox taken by the way we wouldn't be at Cincinnati right now. We were not anyone who knows beat beat. You're already boone. Look this his water. Butterfly Manfred had to punish the astros. Do it because I think you made a good point. That four top draft picks over two years bad significant your general manager of really good one by the way gone or manager who is very well regarded related players really. Well all of these things he's gone. You had to make significant. The baseball punishment was delivered to them was significant. But all of these other things. We're we're talking about Dave Roberts Clayton Kershaw all extrapolation Appalachian. But this is not real. But no I wouldn't have been hung over drinking because I was so sad. What's real to reel is that Mike fires was like no no no? I don't know where we're not. I'm not letting that guy that's kind of got one foot in triple A.. And One foot in the big leagues. I'm not letting him get back on horses because they're cheating cannot be real real real real and I sure hope. He's faithful to his wife and stuff and like everything Airtight because if he's got any loose strings the his ex teammates know about our dog. Oh yeah he's he's he's Rafael Palmeiro. I've never used performance enhancing drugs. Really you're talking about the nationals. Didn't do anything I do. Do they want both Dave Martinez man. What a mess? What an absolute mess? We'll try to figure out what the dodgers do from here that's next there's crispy and then there's crispy earn. Try our new and improved Tyson crispy chicken strips crispy just got crispy for all right. So the dodgers have still not said anything official. The dodgers have e- tweet it's been pinned to the top of their page for a while and it says all clubs have been asked by Major League Baseball Matt's comment on today's punishment of the Houston. Astros it's inappropriate to comment on discipline imposed on another club. The dodgers have also been asked not to comment on any wrongdoing during the two thousand seventeen world series. Reason will have no further comment at this time. That by saying we've been gagged that says a lot so I'm okay so it's offensive. It's offensive of the baseball gag. The the dodgers. Yes absolutely you should be able to comment on something that directly impacted the legacy of your generational player your manager the fans all the money thinking about other businesses that lost potential growth because the dodgers didn't win the world series. They should at least be able. I don't mean to sit there and talk about every every single freaking game for the next hundred days John but at least be able to say something so that you don't look as if you you have to be able to say something because the impact that it had on this franchise a particular is deep. I think they did say something by saying. We're not allowed to say something says were pissed. This is a joke they're cheaters. We're not allowed to say that. So you want you don't want you. Don't need the reparations. You just wanted wanted to be heard that this affected us it. I'm not being funny for no. No no no when we talk about Clayton Kershaw. He is for ever tied to what they didn't do in the row season. He is a once in probably travelling. Correct me if I'm wrong. Long prayed the best pitcher of the last. What did he generate fifteen years generational talent? No guess go go to hall of fame. Won't be talk about winning a championship in his speech. Going into the hall of fame. Yeah but going into the hall all of Fame and knowing once you're gathered reception after the ceremony. You're not quite like the other guys. Yeah look that real the Randy. The Johnson and Pedro Martinez Greg Maddux in the other guys on this list of best pitchers this to thousands. Got One on one and they're going going to be wearing the IRA. Yes what if you gave Kershaw just to clean like punch to the face of like one of his opponents to say he's just once I'm joking take a big just saying just from a personal standpoint like there's always something and I'm not even thinking about it from the legacy standpoint. I'm thinking about it from Kershaw standpoint because that picture. We saw him where he's in the dugout dejected. Jared like now you're in a situation where you almost can't make it out of that because you the best chance you had. You didn't even get a fair shot at and that to me I think about how it affects Kershaw from from a mental acuity standpoint in terms of his ability to compete anymore anymore. And I wouldn't be you know you can't be mad about a guy if he just said you know what I'm not saying he's GonNa walk away from the game but if he's never approaches the game the same way because he knows that his golden in years when taken from him do something like that. That's tough man. Forget the legs let himself. That is was a different person. Apathy not funny one that chip. He's a different person. Yeah well it it were done. Who worked for its? I know what I'm saying it again but it's drew brees. Drew brees has far more failures in big moments than he does successes pay many mentioned but but he's got a success. The you know the if that onside kick goes a certain different way. We're talking about peyton manning a little bit differently and we're talking about drew brees far dizzy. Aaron Rodgers is infinitely better quarterback quarterback Brett farve. But if doesn't win that championship Yep he's not as good Brett. Farve is the number one guy who needed ringnes solidified otherwise super wild career. Exactly number one on that list. I don't think he's ever going to I think he will give you a classic Clin Kershaw response which is very measured which is thoughtful artful which is something that is leaving you thinking and I wonder what he really thinks. Bellenger said the other day at that California strong event event that hey look we did things the right way. We did things too right where this goes back a little bit to win Kendrick Perkins just gutted. Katie where I know. You don't sleep well well at night because you know you took the easy way out this. I WanNa Know How Clinton Kershaw sleeps at night. I WANNA know if if it does he sleep a little little more soundly knowing that you know what I had it and the reason I don't have it is because they cheated or is it still stood fix anything. I I think that if you if you're his therapist you better make sure he's sleeping soundly. That's the only solace you can take from this because this hits him harder like I said they re-signed Dave Roberts Dave Roberts didn't get the axe. Then that's won the world series this year that franchise didn't get something rob from them that they're probably never going to get a chance to do in the next seven or eight years but Kershaw. He's just gotTa wear it he's gotTa wear in a way that no singular picture can be identified as having to do in an already singular position. And that's tough. I feel for the guy. I don't know that I felt after he gave up the bombs. Anything Oh man. Maybe it's never really satisfy you were you burning jerseys on the yeah no running him over our our burden actors because I disrespected the Jersey right because I was angry because I said here he goes again would not have been that way for me or the people in that stadium if he was a champion and already broken the curse. That's just that's just the way you darvish might be a number two guy and Beulah nobody number three if we have that ship. He's look. He's Sandy Koufax win the world series. He says age level that we can't can't even really sandy. Cove Clinton had a better career than Sandy Koufax he has. He's he's he's been he's been better longer than Sandy. Koufax was Sandy Koufax's peak was pretty extreme team. Sandy Koufax was great for about five years and then he got hurt and this is before. Tommy John Henry. Does it fizzled out. Really quickly Clayton Kershaw. Today as we sit here on January fourteenth twenty twenty is going to be looked at four far far differently than Sandy Koufax Zante Kovacs is always. The greatest has left hander in dodger history world series champion four no hitters. All of these things Clayton Kershaw is an MVP a multi cy young award winner all these things and I but you know what Ya non champion. It's you never want to follow your name Travis Rodgers. He's good and Travis Rodgers. The Guy has never had an never be good in the first place. I'm just a guy that was kind of all right and all right. What do they do next? So we're still waiting to hear what The Red Sox are GonNa Happen Your key stop. He's doing it again. This study a key once again is telling us that he's good for a lease. What are you saying a couple of buckets in an NBA? Can we set up. Why this discussion? With Mr Jared Dudley was is on the screen and I'm not going to save the numbers man. There was eight point five minutes at one point. Six points on forty one percents shooting since you always advocate. Yesterday's hit two buckets excited. He was jumping over out. It was what he does. Yeah that's what he does. We'd like to keep more buckets. And then I said in my height I'm getting on the flow of nine minutes. I'm not getting low point six points and I actually happening in you. Don't matter Genitalia. Six seven right. Yeah but I go blow pass him. You do realize these are big fast men not. They may not fast pretty player ski. So what. I'm talking about right now. I'm talking about when I was playing handball. So twenty. Six twenty seven. Yeah I was GONNA work work this year. So instead of getting the guaranteed contract without a tens of millions dollars and no concussions. You just say you know I could do that now. I didn't say I didn't say I was going to be one of the best in NBA. Now I said you give you give him the listeners. There's the wrong thing okay. All right I'm not a damn fool. Okay I might be food but I'm not down for you accomplish more than Alex. Caruso no okay. And and he jumped krista Jared Dudley. God can't keep my deadly straight Dudley. To nine minutes I might get. You might get five points points. And I say that you'll be sixth man of the year I was GONNA say Whoa. He's working at five mid-east mid-east exactly one game last night. Though they played well I thought that that first half was dicey. I was thinking to myself artists. The people were talking about trap game. They might drop this looking inspired. And then they had Lebron arguing about Lebron playing in the fourth quarter. I I was listening to. I think he needed to play that for himself. No let me turn this on. Show somebody that I can bank to a game tire by memory here. I might be off by a point or two. I want to say that the Lakers had a fourteen point lead at the start of the fourth quarter right but they also were down fourteen in the first half there with twelve minutes to go a fourteen point. Lead and by the Lakers. Were far better. The second and third quarters than they were in the fourth they they were playing really well. The bench ultimately does come in and they ended up winning by thirty nine. That game was in their back pocket. Lebron I think he was look he was having a little fun. He's stone up shots. He's doing up labs. I mean there was one of those situations where at some point. You GotTa let the dude play because they WANNA play. I believe in that you know what I mean and I don't always think that that's smart but last night was one of those moments former team. He's got his other guys. They were down early in the game. Lebron said let me get mine on this night. This is what I'm GONNA do. That's what it seemed like to me. I mean Klay thirty minutes. I'm not freaking out about thirty minutes. I for me the big takeaway was I was reminded why is difficult for Calicoes. Have a home. Because he was matched up against Kevin Love and you can too big for and he would just giving them work and we go around you start thinking about some of the other powers that are out there. He's not big enough to really bang with them if they decided to blocks with him. He's a natural three and it's not really a lot of flexibility after that unfortunately the guy who's starting three essentially maybe the greatest player of all time and so it's just going to be hard for him to find significant time on the floor with a d. and Lebron and close games. It's just it's just grabbed. It's GONNA be tough. Here's another thing that happened last night. That was very noticeable. That was really bothering me about the Lakers. Offense is that every time who's got the ball definitely there are less than ten seconds on shock and I'm thinking to myself okay. You WanNa give him a position to succeed. That does not seem to be it. I know he's got a bunch of quarter winners and half's winners and all this stuff but it just didn't seem seem like the way last night specifically he was involved was productive for what they're trying to figure out who he can't be in this off and last night was without. Anthony Davis again right. So that's the weirdest part this. This is not that okay. He's back into that through third slot. He was still presumably in the in the number two slot and he still couldn't quite look at like the best. That's right I said the day before I said Okay what happens. Now when he's the two we know when he's basically been guy by itself but what what happens when one of those guys are on the floor with him. What is he going to look like? That's what you got four former NBA head coaches for and that's probably why they're figuring it out and that's probably why his name name has been mentioned to a little too certain degree now. We had John Ireland on with this yesterday. And John Mitchum Trade Blah Blah Blah and. I DIDN'T WANNA getting in a trap but I fail to as a journalist. I've failed to ask the question about Rob Pelinka having conversations with other clubs about him because Zales e I'm blaming you pointed out that Rob Pelinka had discussions. He was the one who initiated the conversations about the potential multiple ejection. No look ah I see the fact that there's there's enough smoke there to make me believe that something's going to happen. Th that no one has come in with the book at a water order to continue this bad analogy. Just said we're we're not doing this. He's going to be you. Don't think that makes it the smart move. Perhaps perhaps the the other thing too is that if we already gotten used to the fact that the white Howard's awesome again bro. I mean twenty one and fifteen last night and of course I told you a lot of times man and were you around people remember. I've been saying Lewis when you're around people that make you feel. Yup Things are different. You but when you're around somebody who's always putting on on your bullying. You're talking crazy to you. Ain't GonNa get a whole lot out of that. Individual's guys are putting their arms around you embracing you're making you feel good you like I'm GonNa go to work one hundred percent but no no no one hundred hundred I can. You guys are going to have to live with game. Recognize this game okay. Okay thank pat pronounce it phonetically correct to remove. The letter are says nine added innovative idea of when key. What you're talking about with Dwight coming back? It's at the beginning. Like Oh okay. He's comfortable he's he's in a good spot all all these things but now it's just like Oh yeah Dwight's going to work every no but when he first came back with a huge gamble not gamble financial gamble but this was kind of no hell hell. Let's give it no but you know when I came back I kept saying it from the beginning I said GonNa be straight man I wanna I wanNA put to pick some is I gotta keep them open. 'cause John This guy here he said Oh man you gotta understand when you around the do like Lebron and Rondo in a d veteran guys chewed like Mike. You know that you mess with you like okay. That other do that. He was way before he went because he was always messing winning. And you gotTa know the personalities that you do don't travails role in this. Don't they can split there. It's a nice setup. And that's why I want the coups Medina agreed situation to potentially because they way this is what I'm saying it's possible to Kinda Sai platoon guys in Saint Position Polarize guys with Danny Green's role in this. Danny Green seems real comfortable in the Ron denying that. But I'm saying that if they're going to get the third guy that steps up it's probably GonNa be a combination of him in coups is what I believe in terms of what that third player role is. He's always going to be the part of the reason why he didn't scores. Many good eleven points is because he was on a hard he was only tougher player. Kevin Love was giving him work in the post dinner with four fouls house in the game. You're Delis replacement. Got Four hundred dollars as well. Kevin love decided. I'm just GONNA put this big button to block to make them work now. If a DS and a Game Kevin was a three point. Sheila that's the difference and then as to scoring the way they score. Ad Scores above the rim. Dwight Howard above the rim devel- McGee above the RIM Karakouz. Coups was not above the realm. That's a different SIS for libra as a different offense setup for the t they have to figure that part out because he's still is very valuable. We're here tomorrow. Do we talk about the Red Sox and the punishment is they're gonNA come. Is it GONNA ask. Will I think it's like baseball. Wants to tear this band aid off and just okay. Let's get at the Astros done. Let's get the Red Sox done and let's get ready for spring training. I think we're talking about this. Maybe not as much tomorrow. We're talking about it again tomorrow. We're going to be doing it right at six o'clock Keyshawn Z.. And Travis was.

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Ghosts of Dodgers Stadium (GT Mini)

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I break down the strange history and cultural happenings during that year, like nineteen seventy-seven the wow signal nineteen sixty three three tramps thieves 1844 millerite movement 1997 the Phoenix Lights 1896 the shortest War 2004 Benjamin Kyle 1518 the dancing plague nineteen eighty-five the move bombing wage. 72 remote viewing to get your weekly weird history fixed pause the podcast you're listening to right now and subscribe to strange year wherever you listen to podcasts the high price of a home run. I'm Jason Hong I'm Rebecca Lieb and this is Ghost Town Off. When you are listening to this the World Series will be over. Maybe the Dodgers will have one perhaps I don't I mean I live very close to there. I guess I like baseball and a peripheral sense but more so than that is the history of Dodger Stadium wage and how that's really a big part of my life what all went into that and also just where we record this right now a lot of diversity a lot of contention and down, Name is really indicative of that and how it became what it is today. I saw some great concerts there too. Yeah, what you saw Paul McCartney Oh shit. I saw Billy Joe and Billy Joel leaves, New York. Oh, yeah. I used to live in L. I know don't get me started when you went to go see in New York. I did that song. It was like a year ago for 7 to Thursday. It was only a year ago. He says more than a year ago East but Dodger Stadium, I mean, I've gone to a couple what's great about if you live in LA and you are off work in any kind of thing, we work with somebody else getting complimentary tickets to a Dodgers game is not hard know. I just did one like I went to one semi recently with tuck. Hm Mister Tic Tac, man, and it was black star and you know, there was like Hey get as many Dodger Dogs as you want your waiting. Your dogs, but it is they say like, I'm Not Dead You know huge sports fan but I appreciate it and culturally and and I've take a lot of pride in Los Angeles, obviously. Yeah, so I've adopted that you have to be your card carrying Dodger fan club. I mean same when you live so close to the stadium. I think it feels very much a part of your life. You know, the the difference of my neighborhood when there's a Dodger game going on vs. When there is not is Jake, you know, yeah, you know, like an army marching through it is blue nuts and it's very inspiring. I mean, it's can be a lot but it's also very inspiring but it was such a high price to pay for Dodger Stadium that we don't I didn't really know about I didn't at all some chorizo buckle up. So the area like we said, it's really diverse. It's an important choice the Dodger Stadium and that Elysian Park Elysian Valley is a really important place that mexican-americans Chinese Jewish settlers came and lived and dead. For you really can't take the stadium out of it, but it's a really hilly area. It's really Lush. It's really beautiful. It overlooks lots of different parts of LA that the San Gabriel Valley. You've got Glendale. You've got Silver Lake you can look all the way out to like in downtown certainly but El Sereno, it's it's really really beautiful beautiful views. Really Lush Dodgers themselves always been known to be very Progressive. They signed Jackie Robinson Sandy Koufax Fernando Valenzuela during errors, when those people of color perceived of as as other were not being signed and not working within these organizations. So I want to say that I want to say that I think baseball daughter specifically and a lot of the community is still very diverse, but the birth name is a really complicated history to say the least Dodger Stadium is in Chavez Ravine name for Jillian Chavez, the first recorded landowner in the Ravine and this Ravine is a much bigger part of Elysian Park and Valley. He was a name. To go native who moved to Los Angeles in the early eighteen thirties. He was generally very cool from the 1850s to the 1880s. They were a lot of smallpox epidemics on his land and Chavez Canyon was complication of a home which cared for Chinese and Mexican community members who suffer from smallpox big into Community big philanthropists good owner. So there was a presence of Mexican and Chinese people in a valley. They're also Juice settling in the area in the 1850s. The first Jewish state in Los Angeles was a cemetery located in the Ravine which opened in 1855 and was owned by the Hebrew benevolent Society Los Angeles, which was a Jewish charity and also the first charity in Los Angeles the benevolent Society purchased a three-acre plot of land for the cemetery for $1 from the city in 1902 because of poor environmental conditions because of the unchecked expansion of the oil industry huge part of Los Angeles, huge part of our identity, but kind of ruined the Ravine area. So the cemetery had to be removed during the song. I'm Mexican Americans Filipinos African Americans and Chinese coexisted peacefully in the Ravine forming neighborhoods of Bishop La Loma and Palo Verde mostly on the ridges between the the hillsides in nineteen thirteen of progressive lawyer named Marshall stimpson subsidized the movement of around 250 mexican-americans to these communities from the floodplain of the nearby alley River. There was a local grocery store here a local church Palo Verde Elementary think about where Dodger Stadium is now and think of like a small community with a middle school. It's kind of hard to picture. There was also a nearby brick Factory which caused more local problems from the smoke and the dust released again think of a small community in the hillside dust and debris coming in and like kind of staying in that area but in nineteen twenty-six the residents of the Ravine organized to shut off any down and they did on August 20th, nineteen twenty-six. The Los Angeles city council unanimously adopted an ordinance prohibiting the lasting around the Zone area of Chavez Ravine for residential use until the mid-nineties wage. These the Brooklyn Dodgers president Walter O'Malley tried to build a stadium in Brooklyn, but couldn't really reach an agreement with City officials about the land. So he went to LA and the land for Dodger Stadium had been seized local owners and inhabitants in the early 1950s using eminent domain which is when the power of a state or government just takes private property back for themselves the city and plan to develop the Elysian Park Heights down to a housing project, you know, like post-war boom kind of Ash it and probably modeled the success of Bishop Aloma and paloverde to make that happen. So they stole these ideas from an already took driving very diverse community and we're like now we're the government we're going to do this to bed of it with more money the project plans included two dozen 13 story buildings and more than a hundred sixty two story townhouses. In addition to Thursday. We rebelled playground schools and a college again. They were going to do this. I'm primarily Mexican American Family land and aggressively tried to buy a private property. They would give them stipends. They would come down. To people's doorsteps. They hired Spanish-speaking government workers, which wasn't really super popular at the time to connect with Community eventually giving them less and less money and finally just taking their land or or other before construction could begin on the housing project super Republican politician. Norris Paulson was elected mayor of Los Angeles in nineteen fifty-three proposed public housing projects like Elysian Park Heights lost a lot of support. They were labeled as being socialist anti-government anti community. So then the city purchased the Chavez property back from the federal Housing Authority at a very reduced price range with a stipulation that the land would be used for public purpose. This land is being handed from one public entity to another public entity after being stolen from people on June 3rd. 1958 Los Angeles voters approved a taxpayer's committee for yes on baseball referendum and the Brooklyn Dodgers acquired 352 Acres of Chavez Ravine from the city, of course, there was more to set with the landowners that remained many of home. Already fought against the first wave of displacement in the twenties. There's a famous photo of a woman named Aurora Vargas who fought eviction tooth-and-nail. She said that they'd have to carry her out and they did. So on May 8th 1959 LA County Sheriff's forcibly removed various from her home bulldozers, then knocked over the last few remaining dwellings, four months later groundbreaking began for Dodger Stadium. And this picture is very famous. It's been mentioned many Publications. You can see the pain in This Woman's face. She's being dragged out of her land. So ground was broken for Dodger Stadium on September seventeenth nineteen fifty-nine. The wage of local ridges were removed and the soil was used to fill in Sulphur and Cemetery Ravines to provide a level surface for the parking lot in the stadium Palo Verde Elementary School again, a hub of Mexican-American families that lived there was simply buried and sits beneath the parking lot. North west of Third Base. The rest was literally paved over to create the gigantic Stadium parking lot. So this is all of the stuff that had to happen to create Dodger Stadium and again, yep. Want to like disparage Dodger Stadium at all. I think it's a really beloved part of our history, but I think knowing this stuff is important too. So what happens when you take over all of this land and you disperse diverse communities take a cemetery and move it bad energy and ghosts and ongoing issue with the cemetery was that one body wasn't sure if I'd was taken out. So no one has claimed that body. They're not sure if they it's kind of like in limbo. I think it's in governmental care. So I can't imagine I don't know this for sure that a lot of families weren't informed when that Jewish cemetery was moving from that site the other side a lot of confusion there who knows that they took everybody hard to say. I hope not then of course Dodger Stadium, we have a couple thoughts Ellen Phish fourteen died four days after it was hit in the head by a foul ball on May 16th 1970 at Dodger Stadium on August 29th, 2019, Linda Goldblum a mother of three and a grandmother of seven a.m. Died when she was struck in the head with a baseball during the August 25th game at Dodger Stadium and actually her family made a big to-do about this because Dodger Stadium didn't really want to get out. It was kind of a pressed you remember this in the news at all. Oh, oh they were very very vocal about it happening and about the authorities not really being able to to do much about them and to help them people have seen specters headless ghost dogs. The remains of animals used in rituals all over the park and Elysian Valley around it, but not famous ghost around Dodger Stadium and Elysian Park is the white lady. She is the most haunted figure around the stadium and most seen she is the most haunted figure out around the stadium an indicator of again, like a lot of different things come together. We've got the the folklore the cemetery, perhaps the racial tensions some believe. She was a young Mexican American Woman who during the War years ended up being brutally assaulted and murdered by US Navy sailors some versions even have her being decapitated which people have seen around the park woman in white wolf no head. She is very similar to La Llorona, which is a Mexican folk myth about a weeping ghost of a woman who drowned her children in any case the white lady scene with and without a head and said after lovers who are canoodling in the park and around the stadium after hours. So there's a picture of this woman who died Linda Goldblum an hour before she was killed and that is also very creepy, like people enjoying a baseball game families together and you just don't it's all calculated risk, I guess. But yeah, there's there's a dark side to sports and we don't really have that right now. So that's may be safer. Oh so good. Yeah, that's good bad off.

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Episode 100: The 100th Episode Spectacular

Working Interferences Dental Podcast for Dentists

1:07:24 hr | 1 year ago

Episode 100: The 100th Episode Spectacular

"Working Interferences is intended for mature audiences since the hosts never grew up here uh lance it's spooky yeah it's with Peronist diseases that yeah they they go bump in the night I'm I'm the shirt has like a glow in the dark skeleton a sucker I'm all the sucker become more of a lollipop guy but yeah us another momentous occasion Yes sir one hundred episode this feels thanks so pretty sure oh all right hours there's one person who likes it I think more than anyone else I think so and eighty seven just doesn't have to be special and so on awaited for this and so the best we love my God yes we love everything you do we love your are you on that because you remember things that we never remember some uh-huh so funny now real quick I mean everybody I wouldn't fire central like the that's right danger or anything I am well my my practice was you have a company I do that makes it very popular product Lavar pitch for Yappy it's an practice automation software need a lot of busy work to make a better patient and accept it doesn't integrate with the garbage that I use so you know what I tell you I don't think a Christmas knows who I am but I guarantee lately is what's GonNa come up later in in a little bit have you ever gone to present anything I would imagine that that room would be an interesting room especially for something software going to bed Gordon Kristiansen's never had anybody signed a consent form ever has Gordon Christianson ever we have to guess if Gordon's done something we kind of do onto my favorite moments from that the hundred shows and and and we can kind of kind of review Oh you design software you come up with like a work in progress name awkward data and the kind of stuff yeah all it kind of West to actually okay so so itself ways when we deployed to me so it's the best okay aim right now like considering there's fires actually near your practice practice is just so anyway I was presenting the confidence and seniors and and and she has his company called Jackie and Jason says I like it I like it you sent me some of the Yappy puppies to be screen Oh nice I your word audio file shitty like a nifty kind of thing but is I don't remember what episode it was but we spent I don't know twenty minutes daffy shit the bed and didn't record any of it and this is the first instant we instance we'd had life who nothing made any sense as really and I got three or four messages Yeah that one was a tough one but I just remember it God I'm Kinda surprised how many people are so chair I dunno could we also get an act had I think it was Frankford curve that was great we zone balls I still I'm still obsessed with that the other day I was just driving down Mr Belvedere still alive so that would be like that's our goal reps at one fifty often think of Mr Belvedere balls and And regale in the majesty you for a while because I I saw I so lance post every collusion and collusion you can have a lot of broken laso it's important that I wasn't gonNA listen to the podcast a conference right just posted the podcast and I for some reason fought it was like a special thing for not and then coming back I loved it and I coming back from the Vod you know a lion that you know like if you like Karaoke honey great in so many ways and then going to work on Monday after this big party at the yeah so I decided to listen to podcasts I remember we are like retired I got to my office I my commute is about thirty minutes from nine we've accomplished our goal announced we've made one person really all we really going working interferences yeah we will have to have gina on at least it literally just looked here behind my computer and I found this book that we used in this who transformed their practices they reignited their passion and fell in love with life again that's actually now I remember yeah I literally have not picked this up since this it obviously didn't didn't help that much yeah maybe maybe kill it with fire mocked we come back to you I hear again I don't I became so addicted to the show I I was listening like son was like a you're not able to do anything that listening to this not only graphic he's probably would probably be a better guest but I am taking to his boxing practice I very what I listen to this Josh case commercials and it's like my favorite segment yeah I started to tell myself wow it's gonna be okay so I'm like teen and would he and my son is like I can't tell y'all tell mom later it's like what could go wrong we don't have girls writing like what are you listening to us at only two dental advice show these and why open yes so many questions and he we never said it was good never set that was listening to this body therapy after this up for it make one person need therapy Dr Goals I had no not about left the groups we answer questions from read it we start 'til Denison not members of their own unique brand fuck no we don't want a bunch of boring questions like who's the biggest fan of working I I still I mean I I still don't think going Christian knows we exist tooth life Irene winterkorn Christians and lecture and asked him yeah exactly exactly so I don't know it'd be interesting to see like if if blink stare and go yeah yeah sure what's what's pod cart eighteen male I've been vaping in bed after brushing my teeth I was wondering if this will stain my teeth song on an episode one hundred just tell you this concerns fifty were all about can I have all nations yes and like you know social questions the snap his fingers and decided to Nellie Road Kill you plan on Sunday social he's doing bike himself in bed a in his vape and the other yeah yeah do you guys remember like the big it smoke in bed and stuff like that and and I just feel like that's one of those things it's just never going to happen you think of of pre pre seatbelts you know and then Broadway people die every day and yet yeah I guess people will still and start start killing wolves sky net I think when I net decides to make their own a the alphabet it's all about yeah I I do love to follow the trivial trials and tribulations uh I've seen them at sticking out of thirteen year old patients pockets yeah I my sorority sister she came and visited Yeah Joel's everywhere they're everywhere taught who's vapours okay so visit that was a big rig that thing had like you could adjust the oems on it and all that kind pants I was trying to show off my pants and suddenly I'm throwing another bus because of the cotton candy in the sky you make their campaigns thank you I will always judge silently Dane I would think so I don't know honestly it's so new to like it dry uh-huh I I Looks like that flavored stuff is going to have to go away okay yeah right so yeah that there needs to be an exemption for pineapple uh-huh so the color as well because you remember like when they started adding like pictures of dissecting lungs will stain around their teeth okay you know or or bright green or some kind of some teeth and so then everybody would know that they were vapors and so they'd have to come in like every few weeks to get and in parallel prone to make sure they're not they're not compare disease uh-huh and that would be I think that should be something that probably should be done is some sort of color additive so that we know what's happening Google it it seems like that the Saney so it might come from the flavoring through so I don't know if like if if he's a stain the plaque thing is interesting from a point of trying to get more business for us from vapors because there obviously at a profit from this right it's GonNa be like some nifty device that's chapter this Blah Blah Blah Blah it's like lady here just take this pod just vape this on your pod a pod with fluoride sixty nine dollars I think we have to do the traditional and that's it that's the only that's those are the only two flavor choices that we have with the with the Need to talk to them about our floride vape yeah track listen we're all good yeah Ed People WanNa do this so let's instead of just yelling at him about doing this really into their oral health just walking around with Spit Cup in it's like now it's actually not it adds to grind ultra sweeten the coffee eh to try it out and went to walk the dogs so okay you have to be super careful about not swallowing that stuff because it will make you very sounds great but it's also like oh it's just like kind of coffee eared and it also like when you when you chew tobacco the spit that you get you know because it's got some it's got some mass all right and this stuff is is real thin like your your hi wow awesome that's more ah remember the guy who was making his own Alipio it's Eh belongs and nobody let's move maybe two dozen if you already knew what work you needed done by had some plaque quote unquote examination plus ninety dollars for the clean I swear the Gina what's the etiquette on a patient who doesn't think freak men whose disdain for people comes out so naturally but or like a back specialist and just saying now I don't need the doctor to take a look at my back sort of the deal the etiquette lands with the etiquette is for this that was the question this isn't this isn't this isn't Wendy's you don't know what you want clean yeah I I'm looking at everything you piece of Shit Fuck You well one of my favorite parts was the show when you said didn't like Yogi Berra's nuts and then they come from Monday to you know Sandy Koufax Moore's coated a few times I as long short but for all right all right I just I don't know like that's doesn't I we're the cockeyed yeah I just WANNA cleaning no fuck you taking x rays to look around for other shit that who might have what you know or you need propitiate or something like that you can just go on an APP this lead in that water to get two hundred degrees that sounds stupid that's good it actually turns out wrong except it's just the water has like and the doctor's like show me your thumb okay and lose 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and she's bizarre because you're not there yet ignored the dirty looks when I show up so so it just ha- eighty and being in a different place and whatnot so obviously I think whole this whole idea of people not understanding that I think is is portents of net which is close to what was he charging there what was it in the question diamond to complete the medical historian from the restorative out a collector value the etiquette is how do I use the suction was my first experience using a high speed happy traded from the situation like where am I supposed to put that thing that problem the vestibule gets filled with water and vice versa I tried it the back of the mouth and it's even worse far back as possible I do love rubber without urban Duda Pedo patient attitude right post that child put on

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Tom Stone, Author

The Sporting Life with Jeremy Schaap

13:24 min | 11 months ago

Tom Stone, Author

"Hey this is Kirk herbstreet. Welcome back to this great college football rivalry earlier today we miked up the huddle. And here's what we heard. He didn't what town it is ready for this game. We're not say smoke. Say Sausage pins in Akron told to fire up that grew that is one intense home gate. ECKRICH you do you. This is the sporting life on. ESPN radio and the ESPN APP. Here's Jeremy Shop and now that we're a couple of months removed from the world series and spring. Training is still a couple of months away. We really are in the middle of the baseball did season. This is the hot stove time of the year. So it's a perfect occasion to talk about a new book by Tom Stone. It's titled Titled Now taking the Field Baseball's all-time Dream Team's for all thirty franchises. And let me tell you this book is something else it six six hundred pages. This is not one of those books that was written in a couple of weeks spy. Just some fan. This is very thorough. Methodical old Look at every team in baseball history. Every franchise explaining its methodology for determining the best player each position for each of those franchises sizes and it is a pleasure to welcome to the sporting life. The man who undertook this book writing this book now taking the Field Tom Stone Tom. Thank you for being with us. Thanks so much down the honor to be with you Tom. This is as I said quite an undertaking and it's very thorough. You must be obsessive Yeah yeah and it's Kinda got a long history to it. I grew up there. I born in the early seventies and by the early eighties. I was into one of those kids that played baseball but living in Rochester New York. You can't play your own weatherwise and so I had big paperback a big. You Know Two thousand page encyclopedia. Then I'd pour through the stats and with my friends about who should be in the hall of fame and stuff like that. I've been thinking about this top who the best players ever for a very long time. Now obviously this is something you know real baseball fans love to have these debates. You know if you're a Yankees Fan for instance who's the greatest center fielder in Yankees History Dimaggio or is it mantle. It's obviously not a real cool even though he's a hall of Famer Aamer There are a lot of teams. Obviously where you know. We're debating players not of that caliber as the greatest Everett their position for that particular franchise when you make your final determination and I've looked through the book. I'm not going to give it away. Are you choosing based on on peak performance. Meaning a player who Performed at his very best over short burst of time. Or is it about longevity is about you know choosing somebody I can't think of a great example off the top of my head but let's say pictures from the Boston. Red Sox smokey Joe would for two or three years is good pitchers there has ever been versus somebody You know might pitch for the Red Sox for like ten years like I guess like Tim Wakefield right who has never that dominant but obviously had more wins and and and accumulated more stats. How did you choose? Yeah good question. So I tried to strike a balance between those two days and one of the ways that I did. That actually was a lot of the author of living on this before the fans are going back to the fifties actually on on all I dream teams like this. I wanted to do things a little differently in a couple of ways one. I chose the thirty. Austrians gave me a firm room instead of just a starting lineup pitchers. They gave me a lot of those guys that each club for a long time as well as those that were maybe shorter under ten year but had really strong performances and then also my use of went of wins above replacement one of those newer safer metrics stats sort of a baseline statistic to get me going. The only yeah I looked at and we can talk more about the methodology. The minute but But I did start with here but I didn't look at their totally water for that club. I also looked at their peak the top three war seasons. That's what I used to make our peak and so I looked at both total war peak war I looked at You know one of the team. Also if their best seasons received Tom Stone about his is new book and it really is. I think something a lot of baseball fans will get a kick out of now taking the field. Baseball's all time Dream Team's for all thirty franchises franchises. And you know you start where I think most people would would think you would start when you're talking about all time. Dream Team's for franchises. You start with the Yankees whom he thinks about the Yankees you've got you've got ruth then you've got garrick and you've got mad till into Maggio and and Berra and a handful half a dozen the greatest players in baseball history. I think we're up to like nine Yankees now. Who are in the hall of fame who never played so much as a game for any other team What is the most loaded single position for any team in baseball history? We mentioned Centerfield for the Yankees. Those two guys are at the top is this is demise Yo mantle the most loaded the toughest call anywhere. Yeah I would say Dimaggio Mantle in terms of who would be the number one there. And then you've got all combs Bernie Williams. You got some good depth there instead of fuel for the Yankees Dodgers Number One pitcher Sandy Koufax and Clayton Kershaw if you look at regular season performances. It's it's a very very close call. Include the postseason of course Colfax comes out way ahead But that'd be a close call in terms of overall depth though going back to the Yankee catcher. They're pretty strong. You'll borough bill dickey term in Muslim. Hor Pasta elston Howard Gary Sanchez. I mean lots of great players. I mean it's probably one reason that the Yankees have been so good over such a long period the timing catcher such an important position and they've always had some great. We're speaking with Tom. Stone about his new book now taking the field. Baseball's all time Dream Team's for all thirty two franchises now with all due respect to some of the teams. I'm going to match now. It's fun and you can have these very sophisticated arguments in high stakes arguments when you're talking about Out the Yankees or the athletics or the dodgers or or the giants giants first base. That's a tough one too. You know mccovey and paid a Bill Terry. We could go back some more Jack Clark. What about some of these newer franchises where there's not You know there aren't Art Anne Obvious choices is it hard to Kinda choose among the guys who are just kind of okay. Yeah I found things to be hard. I find it hard to do. The the big name franchises like you mentioned the long standing ones particularly the nationally ones that go back to the eighteen hundreds and those teams that are the most rabid fan like the cubs and the Yankees. And the Red Sox. 'cause you 'cause you WanNa get right right otherwise you'll hear about it and I certainly have heard about it on facebook and elsewhere but yeah the expansionary eighteen strictly the most recent one from the nineties like the Rave Iraqi marlins diamondbacks. Picking the starting lineup is one thing but when you gotta go to pick backups. Now you're getting some guys that really don't seem to fit well with the concept of an all time dreams of backup catcher for the waves or backup shortstop for some of these teams things like that so yeah that got to be a little bit of a stretch and a little bit of an idol exercise. I mean they were they were fine. Players played many usuals clubs. Ah Not exactly the perennial most of his that you'd expect and you're in. You're talking about franchises in in all their innovation. So you're talking about correct me if I'm wrong and we're talking to Tom Stone about his new book now taking the field Where he picks Dream Team's for all thirty major league franchise if we're talking about the Atlanta braves? They are the original major league franchise writer the longest running. They are the Cincinnati red stockings right. Who became the Boston braves? And eventually the Milwaukee Braves and then the Atlanta braves. Yeah my was. It had to be a continuously running franchise in a technical sense. So there were a few teams that I forget which one the eighteen hundreds and there's a lot of movement and it seemed like maybe it was the same team but technically it had a new owner. I knew roster from one year to the next but in a lot of those cases It was on continuously running from the eighteen seventies or eighteen eighty all the way through modern times and that means that for some fans and say the Minnesota twins and including their time as the Washington senators which for some twin fans and might not care as much as a about those players but the benefit is when you look at that roster all the more unloaded. Because you've got the big train Walter Johnson as today's picture. So here's a tough one to okay Tom. So you know you've got You've got grover. Cleveland Alexander Arguably one of the four or five greatest pitchers of all time right Mostly with the Philadelphia phillies but also the Saint Louis Cardinals. That's you know the teams people associated mostly with You Got Steve. Carlton pitching half a century. Sixty years later than grover Cleveland Alexander. And you're not just choosing a starting four starting five you're choosing a greatest. Starting pitcher retrench is right. Yeah put them in order so that was a tough one phillies. We're pretty sterling with Carlton Alexander Robin Roberts Coming in third so yeah not bad that so so who won. Carleton or Alexander I rated Carlton Higher in part because Alexander had more of a split career confident of course started with the cardinals but But lefty had such good years. I think the FORCI youngest with the phillies or something along those lines. So four CY youngs winning twenty seven games for what like a fifty four win team or something like that right or sixty win team. No doubt so. It's interesting though. So you know what you're doing and I think only baseball geeks like us. We would care about these distinctions. But you're not saying for instance that Steve Carlton was a better picture than grover. Cleveland Alexander. You're just saying he was a better philly then. Grover Cleveland Alexander. Yeah and that's a key point and and another thing I did not on the authors and and so on. That have done this in the past done. Is I allow players to make more than one of these roster Mr so Frank Robinson is the one that comes to mind first. He's spent his career between the oils and he's a starter on both of those rosters in my book. Eddie Collins Lefty Grove Jimmie Foxx. Lots of players make it on more than one strand. The I mean Joe Jackson Jackson for sure Chris Speaker players that made it for the expansion teams in particular. Because it's easier to make those Russia want less talent to go through so lots of players make too and a handful actually ended up making three rollie fingers as world. No one Ryan is another Maybe maybe a little controversial for people. That maybe aren't a fan of his anymore. But a rod makes it on the three learners Yankees and Rangers surly stats. Are there. Were speaking with Tom. Stone and again his new book and it's a lot of fun is now taking the field baseball's all time Dream Team's for all thirty franchise. I'm sure people ask you this all the time. You've been studying this for years. You've put this all down in black and white The obvious answer you know with all those greats is the Yankees but there. It doesn't necessarily mean gene that They're certainly not the strongest every position. Not Mrs strongest in every position but but there are few positions at which you know there there. There are all time greats of for the Yankees as there are for other teams overall best team full roster versus somebody else's this is full roster. What are the two greatest? All Time Franchises in baseball history. I do get asset a lot. I think if you just look at the hitting line Nikki's would probably be at the top on you can make education the giants. They've got a pretty stack lineup as well. Maybe a few other teams with the competitive hidden. Why didn't even mention Johnny mize where we talk about? First base right for the giants. That title mccovey paid a little bit Bill Terry in In the nineteen twenties they had a hall of Famer. First base is to WHO has it. It was bill. Terry was Bill Terry in the nineteen twenties yet he hit four hundred thirty. And then they're outfielder Willie mays pounds and now on. I mean that's arguably as good as the Yankees you know. They're very strong relief. Pitching I would. I would say Yankees or throwing Mary. Auto Scott Awesome sparky lyle. Dave Righetti very very strong. It's the starting pitching with the aren't quite as good as some of the other clubs. They got great players Hall of Famer. Whitey Ford Lefty Gomez. They've got around three Andy. pettitte certainly no slouches there. But when he compared to the other teams go read roughing. Yeah like like the dodgers. The dodgers like I said earlier with Colfax and Kershaw Shala with Drysdale and fans and Sutton or the giants with with Hubble and And Christine Magnusson one mirror. Shell great pictures there. And then as you mentioned mentioned the car or the phillies rather than Carlos Roberts the other so I think from kitchen standpoint some other teams could could top top. The Tom will thank you for writing this book and spending all the time researching it. It really could be an endless source of amusement for anyone who wishes to pick it up. It is titled Now taking the Field Baseball's all-time Dream Team's for all thirty franchises encyclopedia. Look at the rosters of all of baseball teams tomstone. Thank you for joining us. Thanks so much Jeremy Real pleasure talking to you. I'm German shop and you can listen to new editions of the sporting life every Saturday and Sunday morning on e._S._p._N.. Radio and E._S._p._N. APP beginning at six A._M. Eastern time.

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Al Bernstein | Ep. 33

PodKats! Las Vegas Entertainment

43:03 min | 1 year ago

Al Bernstein | Ep. 33

"She goes tumbling forward and stabs joe frazier in the stomach the it but i'm the biggest caton it's the biggest cat and i am on the prow around indeed welcome to podcast. This is cats. John cats lameda of the las vegas review journal by columnist called cats fittingly enough find it on page three a everyday an online all the time my guest on this episode podcasts is a legendary boxing analyst and broadcaster who has spent time calling rolling pipes on e._s._p._n. And more recently on showtime he has called many title bouts in his four decades the sport including hearns hagler and paki l. mayweather. He is a member of several halls of fame including the international boxing hall of fame in nevada boxing hall of fame. He's also very good singer. As it turns <music> out at nine pm on august second he will be at tuscany suites co hosting with kenny davidson for a night of standards and contemporary tunes. There is no cover and it'll be a blast. He is my friend al bernstein bernstein. I usually re introduce you. It was a multiple hall of famer. Someone who belongs who's independent into multiple halls of fame now. There's a stick it's also well. The lineup albert's you're thinking of well. Let's see there are number boxing hall of fame whatsoever that division for the international boxing hall of fame canister which is the main one nevada boxing hall of fame and the connecticut in florida and illinois boxing hall of fame. 's non some cases you may say. Why would you connecticut yeah right the the headquarters of e._s._p._n. Or in connecticut bristol yes which was i never worked there and live there but somehow they felt that was enough floor. I'm not believe it's just because i connected a lot through flights in florida that i'm thinking the only rationale of frequent flyer frequent flyer liar famous. That's connected to fort lauderdale. We have a bunch of those and then there's a national boxing hall of fame and i was putting that at one and then northern california boxing hall of fame where that's up in near sacramento men on sacramento and then the one of the things i'm really proud of is the the <hes> in nevada sports hall of fame which is fun for for all sports and that's what what a wonderful organization but yeah not too long ago so that was recent and now i've been put in of all things the jewish heritage sports the hall of fame okay so so that's that's one that we've added to the mix here and there was that we were talking about the earlier the sandy koufax yes sandy koufax. They have in their people joke. Wilderness be only six people in their berg. You're hank greenberg. The actually the group i'm going going in with this pretty cool david star in the n._b._a. Commissioner is going into the group. I'm in and the two men that of did the n._f._l. Films films ed sable and his son fabel steve sable pretty remarkable guys would that that has been an institution john fashanu omar the great john for centuries miss so yes. I have the fortune of my my career is backloaded john early on and i kept getting nominated for ace awards emmy awards and always lost so at some point. I guess karma says well. You got nothing earlier so now. We're gonna start so i'm backloading deserve all listen. It's we've had a good time with it but there's a reason why you get these halls of fame and that's one thing i've learned is it's not hall of fame halls of fame. Yes that is true. That's the correct. That's also <music> journalist. I would expect you to get right or even just a guy who was hanging around it right. A lot of people might not know this about you on your background. Your your sports originally yeah well actually brutal for that i was i was i was a guy i worked at the learner newspapers in chicago chain china community newspapers and i worked up to managing editor there in my twenties and covering hard news of politics of which which in chicago of course is a great yeah and crime and everything if you well for the boxing beat yes yes so i they had that was frustrating to me is because i wanted to work into in sports and so then i started freelancing bad i wanted to support for vestige journalism and so of course you being a newspaper man you can get this. I one of the word for investigative journalism for this series of that i had that revealed revealed all kinds of scandal in suburbs <hes> in a business dealings or whatever so i wanted this award and because i won that a word then they pushed pushed me up to managing editor and of course then i barely got to ride again so it was kind of odd but it seems like that would make sense what it but anyway i i wrote for them and i started freelancing in sports writing for boxing illustrated. I did some stuff for the washington post and other magazines jeans and because i was doing so it's boxing. I worked for ring magazine and others. I got to write a book on boxing boxing for beginners and so the boxing boxing thing kind of came. I wasn't amateur boxer but not of great renown. I fought in the golden gloves in chicago and <hes> and i just it was a good activity but i wasn't some gray. Amateur champion helps you in your analysis very much so john. That's a very good point it really does it helps to have been in the ring. It doesn't matter if you were fantastic. It helps to be in the ring to understand that the when you tell say that somebody somebody needs to keep moving to their left against the south plot somehow it's easier said than done because you're in there and you gravitate to the right you know and then you have to remind yourself wait. I move to the left so i had all that going in an e._s._p._n. Came to chicago and they was one of the stops in their four fights of the top rank boxing was having in four different locations and at that point he s._p._n. Was a <hes> in only three million homes nationally and we didn't even have it in chicago. I had no idea it was but i- clawed my way in by saying i called them and said i will volunteer my services because i know about all the chicago fighters and here's my book and you know and they were desperate pitch for any help and of course the word free. Was you know and you knew the topic. Yeah you knew the subject and so i started doing stuff for them in chicago in one night tommy hearns was doing a fight with sam rose and they can hit him sitting in as tommy was having a difficult night he was not. It's not working that welfare so the producer had said cfl bursting can sit in so i sat in they loved what i did and then and <hes> that was well and we are inviting night fights all the time yeah and then we had our series which was on friday sometimes sometimes thursdays sometimes wednesday okay but but i got on the top rank boxing series and that was the thing that launched my career you know the first of all there's the biggest fights you've done and the best vault and did version. Let's go with the best fights you done yeah to this date. What in it or not it wasn't the biggest even though a feature to fighters <hes> we're both champions <hes> it was it was in las vegas here. Dr jose luiz custodio and diego corrales was a lightweight fight. Everybody knew would be a great fight but for some reason season they just couldn't transmit tat to enough of the public and was in the m._g._m. Grand arena with about six thousand people there okay you know what was not a giant crowd the it's like the old joke right and somebody throws a no hitter you know five ten thousand crowd but one hundred thousand say they but it was the very best fight i ever covered for two reasons number one. It was wildly exciting but number two it was so well thought what these men their technique everything they did was amazing and they all both showed such courage and so it was an amazing using fight both of their peak both very good point both at their peak you you couldn't ask for more for a boxing match so that'd be the most exciting result of your fight now. Pardoned <unk> result was of ground ten. Jose luis castillo knocks down a corrales was twice looks like the fights going to be ending in his favor corral gets up hurt casteel with the right hand and then anyone after custodio head against the rose helpless and ref stopped the fight with corrales winning. Wow yeah very dramatic and yeah extremely dramatic so that was the best fight i've ever done probably and what did you say the biggest fight. You know i did pack. You'll mayweather <hes> <hes> which is the most you know. It wasn't thrilling fight but it it's the fight that has sold the most pay per views of any any fight and there are back stories to it because it was a combination broadcast between h._b._o. And showtime. I don't think people realize how how uncommon common that is. You had to describe what that was like. I've heard this story. That was more interesting at the fight for the fight. You know what it was for for us then money. It was all about money up. There was no there was very little tactical analysis really that mattered. It was like how much money are these guys. It was a fight that should have happened three years before yeah and what happened was <hes> pack your may whether it come to showtime and pack out was essentially fighting h._b._o. And they <hes> they had to make a deal between the promoters but the two networks now that it only happened one other time kind before with h._b._o. And showtime and that was when mike tyson fought lennox lewis okay and so here we are again back to the drawing board and so i can only tell you that to say that it was difficult is the biggest understatement i could possibly say and i only i i wasn't the one doing the negotiations but of course those close to the people that did here's an example we ended up with jim lampley happily doing the play by plane and me roy jones junior doing the color okay part of the reason part of the ways and we ended up that way as long as you might have been that third man but he was very vocal about manny pacquiao doing steroids. I mean just off the charts with it so fabrics which is not. That's one thing we're back so they put him up. Polly did this show up at the <hes> at the host desk with james brown and couple of other people so there's the three of us right. There were several weeks of negotiation about where we would sit. Okay explain this to it talking about where you would sit with each other yeah okay. There's roy jones junior ex-fighter. Who's next fighter. Jet fighter was these kind of still fighting to broadcasters right now to me. I would say why not put fighter central and have the broadcaster slang and be okay with it just to balance it out. I don't know how these things work well. Why is it similar thing. It became a thing because can i put this tactfully. You're on the outside. Sometimes if the two people sitting next to each other just physically it's just almost a matter of physicality are used to working with each other and they are going to groove more could leave the third person on the outside on the outside. Okay body language. I finally my suggestion to them was to put lampley in the middle. Chatto chatto was fine. It ended up with lampley than me sitting next to him and then roy jones junior on the outside and you're in the middle i was in the middle and there was no you you know at the end of the day. I want to be in the middle length. Lampley lampley wanted to be next to roy jones okay. Only that's a really storage and he wanted al in section two sixteen. I can't say that for sure did i. I don't want to cause a problem for this. This is this is what people don't realize how amazing important that is to the penguins and the guy and the you know just everything about those negotiations took. A lot of showtime was driving the production. You know we kind of our our production for the most part but obviously did stop but the david dinkins producer produced the show and our director directed. Did they mix the talent. They had us up at the hostess. James brown came from c._b._s. Which is involved dustin they had <hes> kellerman was upstairs along with poly a whole bunch of a yeah we had. We had more announcers than you know yeah. I'd imagine i i remember dana. White was on the post post post interview panel that might have been with the mcgregor nowhere on both actually remember walking with dana white so isn't it. It was an amazing thing and i thought to myself going through it. I took notes because because i said you know this could be a book some day you know and it might be the very last book i write when i'm not in ever interrupted. It will be the last yeah it will be shirt paralyzed on. It was okay to take win something like that. Though i mean it was a huge moment in sports big moment and it's what did you walk out of there feeling you know i it it was. I knew it was let me put it this way. I added a different kind of excitement when i did hagler hearns which was huge from nine hundred eighty five. I was only five years nickel being kirk out. He was the host so loud. Really i was nervous has hacked because i'm i'm like oh my god. I'm only five years in my career. It's kurt gowdy and it's al michaels and i'm watching guys you know gene eighty five eighty five okay okay and and so i had a certain kind of excitement for that one and of course the fight itself augmented that excitement unlike pack y'all mayweather and by the way hearns and hagler would be the second on both lists would be the second fight on the most most important when i did and on the best one i again so i had a certain kind of excitement for that one but maybe kind of a different kind of excitement for pacquiao mayweather because i knew do you couldn't help but really understand that you are not going to be watched by more fans than it ever seen a pay per view boxing event so it was a different for kind of excitement but nonetheless i thought a lot about it and i thought you know this is a this is kind of intriguing thing to tell your grandkids you know and and it was it was fascinating. You could probably make the argument to the news probably quantified that site the <hes> hagler hearns has been watched more since then fight wrong yeah absolutely i mean youtube. It's got zillion heads are high and it was two and a half round fight but they packed so much in that two and a half frowns garry shandling a great line gary and i were very good friends and the told me the funds line. He said you know he said he was working with joan rivers ah opening for her and he but he loved boxing and he came over and he said i had only three rounds to he said i only had time for three rounds to watch that fight came in under they came right in on time and jailing was funny funny. I know that the stain on this one more question about the boxing how about the strangest event you recall strangest interest well. There's a series of thing the e._s._p._n. Boxing series was you know anything could happen. We were going to these small towns small town promoters and and you know the budget of the e._s._p._n. Boxing children time was four dollars and ninety five cents. So you know crazy things happen and we've one fight which we had a blackout was in wheeling west virginia and the it goes black right and we throw and and then there was no place to throw it to that's that's how m- early on it wasn't. He couldn't throw back. There was nobody back in just to say well here. We are now you probably do that. You're at and so we're and here's the other irony donald curry. It was doing the color with me who had never done it before so here. I am in that situation and <hes> we <hes> it lasted for a good ten minutes and we're trying to fill ten minutes and then one of the promoters skies shine the camera lights on the dream. Okay we can do this. It's now the commission's not having any of that and so somebody else pointed out yeah. This'll really be the time when it's the shot you don't see the gets you so that one was crazy and we we had <hes> we had a time in miami when all the power went out in the truck and the and the a producer and director got technical people to steal the construction site right near they stole the electricity for the truck from construction site so as i pointed this out my book i said getting on the air on time was so important that you would risk of felony to commit a felony commit a felony. That's good that is really good. Mm-hmm coincidentally as we talk about all of this you're going to be doing performing other passion winning or other passions yeah with the kenny davidson on a on august second at the tuscany now. Let's let's talk about the singing thing because you've been singing quite a bit lately. Yeah i have yeah you know active there. Yes i have been you know. I started in one thousand nine hundred in the one thousand nine hundred eighty two when the those big fights happening and it happened in a weird way i was having lunch with the president of caesars palace camera which one it was at that time but breath and a couple of the people in breakfast and people in about a month or two before that <hes> barry mcguigan stat danny who was an irish tenor that sang in pubs back in ireland they had the idea of him singing in the olympic lounge olympic lounge at caesar's palace for the three days leading up to burger gugans fight and it was a great idea. You know people love to have a place where they can go socialize and and of course the irish fans loved it but sort of everyone else so we're having dinner and the presidency fouls looks at me and said don't you sing. I sat in with people a lot and everything i said yeah i do. He said oh well. You're going to do three nights before <hes>. I think it was hagler leonard you. I said i said oh okay okay well. Of course i didn't have a band. I didn't have an act <hes> but in a fight was like three months away but of course you say yes right. What else would you say so. I got some folks that i knew that were in entertainment payment and they got me with that. <hes> you know we put a band together and i. I just rehearsed the hell out of it. Did you have any formal vocal training before orange vocal training in chicago okay and i like singing singing training. I did have did go for about three or four years for vocal training and and i sang in chicago a lot of friends in the jazz world and in other places this is i would sit in a lot but you know that's different than do that's different than doing a show three nights leading up to hagler her adler leonard with every celebrity on the planet coming off breath and so the first the first night so we and we got some back those days it was you know the the sound was built up like i went out to a studio studio and for three days we would shed it when i came in. I was living in chicago at the time came in we would shut. It and i'm like oh and that night i i did a broadcast. I did the e._s._p._n. Tenth anniversary broadcast earth seventh anniversary broadcast so outside doing this broadcast and i go head to go go to my hotel room. Put on a tux and go down to the thing. I mean insane right total insanity. I i've no no brain power at all and so i went down and i walk in and you know here's tommy hearns bob arum over here. Here's telly savalas savalas over here. Here's you know here's a here's a fixture french from the old michael landon over here. Here's all these guys over here. Ear including one fascinating guy ron jeremy was there. Oh the porn star right so that i thought made it official a and there's all these stars sitting. There and i'm like oh my god. What did i get myself into up so i do do do do the show and you know we're about three songs in you know my fingers crossed and things are going pretty well and then in the fourth song i looked down and at a ringside table is butch lewis the boxing promoter yes and and mayor of washing the washington d._c. The marion berry okay okay on the table. Five lines of cocaine big as long lines of cocaine lewis brings down does a sniff looks up at me and smiles and i'm like oh m. m._g. Hotel right right table side at at things okay so what i was gonna write my book. I actually thought to myself. I didn't wanna put it in there because i thought do i did. I remember that right or is it. Some gotten embellished in my mind. David dinkins gene told call me if you're going to put the butch lewis marion berry story and right. I do remember it's out remember. He sat was four seats away. He said nobody he could believe it because even for the nineteen eighties that you know you had this finally it that song was completed. One of the caesar's people came aim overs very quietly and her saw them and they were telling him no no this is not you know a little bit too much. It would've turned caesar's caesar's palace and we'll all my god control toward oh lord so anyway that was the way i started doing musicals back then and i did it about five or six times for those fights and then i turned it into because i couldn't really have a bands like i wanted to because i was forty eight year in eh but i was started at turned into this thing called a sports party but in boxing where show clips and then i would sing a couple of songs we had backing tracks and i will do all that and then i got out of doing that and i got out of doing music how to put this. I had a bad experience with working with some people that made me feel inferior and you'd think artistically artistically mystically and you'd think that i not the kinda guy. That's you know easily subdued or <hes> you know i have a confident guy and i got away from it. Just got away from it and was assumed in relation to your singing. You're singing and i felt okay. Maybe i'm not good at this. You know even though i people seem to is being joint and every maybe i'm not going to afford and i stopped doing it and then and the thing that was a passion. My life was horse riding. I rode horses and i was gonna celebrity rodeos and team penning and all that stuff that's grounded me and gave me the feeling and a variety of things happen. I diploma the horses down. And where did you pick the worst. I've picked that up in chicago and then when i came out here i started at you know doing it seriously but that was what was my center and i said you know connie. My wife had gone through a lot of medical issues and it was a tough time and i i said i wasn't about to go get another horse. We'll add entailed. I said i need something for my soul to nurture my soul and i i went into do the bootlegger one night and you know i know the friends with clinton kelly <hes> and i got up and saying song she's once you get up and singson and that spawned in me the idea that in a what i should do this and i started <hes> <hes> working with my good friend joke darrow who i don't for many years before and i wanted into the kenny davidson vo-tech cabaret one night uh-huh the tuscany tuscan and tuscano a wandered in there one night and i didn't even say hello to him because he was far away and and he was talking all these people and i was kinda intimidating. I'm like oh. I don't want to go over and he was loved yup this guy. I don't know this guy whatever's time forever david it would send intimidating somebody right so i wanna sing skull like personality al bernstein exactly right. I knew who to be scared arta so he then i went back again because it was so much fun and we got introduced and then i would get up and be get one of his guests singers and that all led to that was about three years go of co-hosted there a couple times and that all left to this was a long winded and did answer. It's comfort zone. It's as you say something yeah okay. That's really the point nourishes myself if you had the opportunity entity to do <hes> singing full-time place if you were broadcast career of that if that had presented itself and be able to do that and make a living would you have done it on a heartbeat to really on heartbeat and i love broadcasting love broadcasting you know but i really love. You think you're better singer than a broadcaster. No oh no not better than the broadcast but i but i pride myself on the fact that people people that don't know people come up to me. Maybe that don't know me as a broadcaster and they'll say oh my god that's great. Where can i go see you. Where are you working every time somebody says that to me. I feel really good because like they have no idea who i am so it's cool but it's it's been a wonderful journey and <hes> <hes> <hes> i did my own night at the tuscany and i love the little room near the piazza launch. I think it is the most life throwback room in las vegas his <hes> and so it it just it became a thing with me. You know very late in life you know and i and i i'm. I'm thankful talk that i get a chance to do it. Yeah it's it is a cool. Hang that room and you've done your time. Mark club also did yeah. I did a couple blah. I'm gonna continue doing i really love it and and it gives me. It just gives me a lot of joy. What songs are you going to sample. When on your opponent if kenny some different tunes to do the eagles a peaceful easy feeling. I'm gonna do a song from colin rail if i were you. It's a beautiful song <hes> among the newer ones of doing and i'm going to do i'm always chasing. Rainbows is another new and i'm gonna throw in and a lot of the ones i normally do. You know it's sweetest sounds sounds and all the other standards that i do <hes> e._s._p._n. Blues which <hes> which was a song that was created when i was doing the old sports party because we put put that on i was i was doing a lot of songs about broadcasting in about <hes>. You sang right on e._s._p._n. If i'm not remember everything i remember you. I remember remember you singing yeah. We put they put it on idea this person saying until at night. I really didn't yeah it. Was i forget the reason for doing it but there's there's some really find some reason to toss it in so that was pretty cool. Who are your favorite singers yourself off inspired. You obviously i do a lot of <hes> so there are two categories in the category of the great american songbook which i sing mostly. I try to branch out a little bit from it but mostly i'm singing the great american songbook mel torme sammy davis junior probably on top of the list list and you know. They're many others that i love. Those are the two that are way at the top list <hes> that i just i couldn't if you put me on a desert desert island. I'd love listening to him and you know when it comes to other other forms of music. I am a huge eagles fan. I think the eagles are a spectacular. I love lady eddie gaga. I think she's an astonishing perform because she can sing every genre of music and the other my other favorite woman singer you can say the same thing about and that's linda ronstadt <hes> yeah that's yeah that's right. You know she's i love. It can be a collective within what they do. See jasim pinot the lady gaga show that show at the but not yet got to get tickets. You gotta half a dozen more shots at the next. I've got i've got to try and how susie city this ho ho man yeah mazing yeah. You nailed her exactly. I mean it's just like holy mackerel. What a performer. What s issued a little bit about your health because a few months ago able you've been posted as something that somebody of your friends had had been aware of and you posted not say anything publicly but i was diagnosed with prostate cancer some months ago i did radiation therapy and today found my p._s._a. Wants up twelve is now zero point one. You don't have to know much about <hes>. The condition to no twelve is not good. No point one is great so see right on the cancer has basically been eradicated happy day in our household early detection is key for all and what was that like to face this and what was about wants yeah they'd been monitoring me because i had a very infinitesimal amount of it <hes> the the <hes> prostate cancer but it wasn't to the the point where they would have thought where they made sense to do any treatment right then it started to get really aggressive and it got aggressive aggressive really fast very quickly and so i was faced with two alternatives and operation or do the radiation i chose the radiation and you know you everybody who has been diagnosed with cancer. You know they have the same feeling it's it's daunting hunting and and they they told me my chances of fixing it were very very high because of <hes> we'd been monitoring it and it wasn't way far in extreme stages this is about moderate was mater but still it was susan issue and so i went through the radiation and for the most part came out without i didn't have too many side effects from it some but but <hes> you get hot flashes from this shot they give you and so now every woman. I know we joke about it. I you know like i say you. The men can never really understand what you go through and i'll be out to dinner with friends of ours and women take out her fan. I'll say can i borrow that for a second bells. Yano pas tailpipe so it was it was it was very difficult. <hes> made more difficult because unfortunately cancer has <hes> been a big part of our uh-huh our lives and our family for a while to that point been con- even had been dealing with her. My wife had stage four breast cancer. That was <hes> a a diagnosed in two thousand four. I believe and <hes> state for breast cancer. You know that's pretty serious and it was ause but amazingly. She did chemo and she this amazing drug called her septum. If you have a certain type of blood type which she did this is he's like almost like a miracle drug and his if as kaptur alive but along the way she had the she had a recurrence of brain had had to go to brain surgery radiation in her head then she had a recurrence about a year and a half ago two years ago. She got through past that so it's pretty extraordinary so we've we've had a long kind of ordeal with that. You have to be a caregiver for her that i would expect changes the way you look at everything right. When you deal with that it does yeah no. That's absolutely true you you. It places a lot of responsibility on you know that i always i kind of have my assist jokes with me about this a little bit. I think it's safe to say that i lead until i married connie carefree life relationship and married. We've been married since one thousand nine hundred and yeah and my sister said to me. She said well you had to grow up to get married but now you really have to grow up and that's you know that's in a sense what it's all about. It's funny what you remember in this world but i remember you you. You were on the air when i'm talking in. Somebody said forget who you were paired with. New saddam happily married <hes>. What about you and you said you on single but i'm happy i'm happily yeah. I just remember that myself. In that position carefree life exactly they gotta grow up sometime eventually eventually eventually. It catches up with you. You have to grow up. It's not all but we've been an anti course in the middle of all that my wife is to return really proud <hes> and i played i did have a big role in this as well as did a number of other people hearner oncologist dr maryanne ellison <hes> <hes> found that the caring place and they're it yeah it's a wonderful spot for helping people with non medical parts of cancer that you can you get help with his turned around helped many lives and i mean we've received notes calls from people and it fills our hearts with with joy to know that we did that and so that was kind of an offshoot of it that was pretty remarkable and now it's under the care of the childhood cancer ryo organization they they <hes> it's one of their programs and it was great because we're we fought the the battle and kept it open for about three or four years and it was getting harder and harder you know day have a much bigger fundraising apparatus and they're great organization organization solves three story about connie joe frazier something oh yeah oh yeah oh gosh solo too yeah yeah. It's it's weird accounting. I have all these same connections of people that we knew but not around the same time like she knew raymond seaney <hes> when she was zhong because connie was performed for over thirty eight year yours and raymond seniors to come to her chose all the time and she knew ray and play the racket ball with him and of course i knew raybird well <hes> you know at the time even and saw joe frazier the county was doing a benefit in atlantic city and joe frazier as you recall was a singer had joe frazier in the knockouts half yeah and so light beer commercial miller like yeah yeah so connie was singing and she came she they were going to go on next and she came down some stairs from addressing of frazier nice guys over here. She tripped here. He'll caught on the the stair there. She had one of those combs with her. You know the half russian half tip a fine point geez your hair with she goes tumbling forward and stabs joe frazier in the stomach and he goes down to one knee it and others these immortal words stab me is also seen in chicago but it's the cell block tango exactly as part of that song and so <hes> it was intriguing and the irony. Is that <hes> you know later life. Joe frazier was <hes>. You know a few years before he died. I ended up doing a lot of events with joe frazier. I could never bring myself to tell them the story because i didn't know if you'd see the humor in it forgot about and i kept telling her i said i said you know i'm gonna go see joe. I said you stay here. I we don't need the religion exactly all right l. bernstein. You're going to be going to see you sing broadcast. You're going to be hosting the the hall of fame. Most nevada boxing hall of fame mentioned which some of us call the jerry lewis telethon ah without the tote board board so if i can bring them in under four hours of happy man and on august second all hosts kennedy show we'll be there. It's a cool hang alert. If there ever was when we love doing maybe we'll have some other janice. This is great. I i want to say of this and i hope you keep this in <hes> that you are very unique in that you're journalists us to as a column devoted for the most part to the arts and you find a way to straddle a certain fence in a way that i've seen very few writers do you are supportive of the arts and yet you are independent enough and honest enough to report the news of what's going on with in the arts in a way that keeps you your credentials as a journalist and that's a really really tricky thing to do and i applaud you for that well. It's great to sit across from you allen. You're certainly an inspiration to me and i love the hang you know. Law always club the hangar guys. It's just good to have you in our communities to be part of the whole thing so we'll see it the tuscany man excellent that closes out another episode podcast. Thank you once more to al bernstein for being our guest. Thank you also to frankie marino for our theme song. The biggest cat in town for what is happening in the cats column go to review journal dot com slash cats also follow me on twitter at johnny cavs and on instagram <music> at johnny cats one biggest cabin.

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City of Champions

"Championship thirty, two years in. The. The champion division second-guessed right after his first. All those booze and Justin Turner making sure this World Series was the most twenty twenty. You could possibly be with last Ramona Shelburne turn Beverly Kathleen. Kennedy. Returned from the Hubble. Coney. Video Chat. Right here he's. GonNa. Try to separate baseball's Colbert problem taking over at the most inconceivable moment and Justin Turner and the dodgers brazenly defying the rule to happen come back out on the field and celebrate. Separate that from the actual and championship but that might not be possible. Let's go for this game and this world series and this long way to dodgers redemption coming down to a decision. So direct its second guessing only surpassed by I guessing. SNELL was electric. Seventy three pitches he led up a second hand tonight. And Kevin. Cash did what he in the rays have done all season with incredible success. He lifted his pitcher in the sixth inning and went to the bullpen and it failed and many things. It decided the world series around the horns bill plachy wasn't the wrong decision or was it the right decision with the wrong outcome? Thank you, Kevin Cash thank you for everyone from La. Dodgers back in the world series, it was a terrible decision to hits. He's struck out nine and four innings of them. The hottest star Pitcher in Sandy. Koufax and sixty three in a world series. The next three hitters were facing was facing were for six against him with six strikeouts. There's no way you take him out of this game except if you're using analytics and using the the numbers and not using the eye test numbers are for the regular season, the for the postseason Kevin Catch flunked at big Tom. Terrible Decision Ramona Shelburne was that wrong decision or just the right decision with the wrong outcome. Is a terrible decision and I know they've done this all year and this is how they play. But when when don't even don't even ask me the question asked the dodger hitters the question when they ask them posting Buki, beds, cody, bellinger all when they took him out dodger hitters like woo we got snow out of the game I mean like they couldn't even conceal their joy and normally you. Try to be cool about it. You don't want to criticize the other manager that that decision right there. Let the dodger hitters. No, we got a game now because before that snow was unhittable and I think at some point, you just have to feel the game and Dave Roberts is is on the other side of things felt the game when the dodgers have Hulu aureus dealing. Julio Oreos was dealing. Take him out in the night. Leave if he's if he's rolling rolling, Brigham Emily Kaplan Kevin Cash after the game said, this was not planned predetermined. Any sort of way do you believe that? Was it the wrong decision? I wished I Kevin Cash was just honest with us. The truth that he said, every single decision I make is in concert with our fun office we believe in a process. This is how we got here with the twenty best payroll and we never allow starting pitchers to get past the six inning. Instead he said it wasn't planned, which said it's a real time decision, which is him telling himself that he has a terrible read of the room because as Ramona said, ask any dodgers player, do you want Blake Snell sell in the game? They'd say, no, when is it a good idea to do exactly what your opponent wants you to do driven blackstone. Nine strikeouts no walks a seventy-three pitches in complete control this from a manager who in game one allowed his daughter, go one hundred and twelve pitches and getting knocked around the getting knocked around the stadium. So this was absolutely the wrong. Absolutely the wrong decision at the absolute worst time. As Bill said, there's sometimes you don't pay attention numbers you pay attention to what's in your gut you pay attention to what you're seeing. This was gained six everything was on the line and you pulled the let me ask you this directly Kevin Black Stone, do you think at the side of the series? Well decided the series in the sense that you lost his game, which you couldn't afford to lose I mean you couldn't get the game seven. So that's okay. Ramone you're shaking your head no series. Now this one run I mean look as bad as a decision is this was I know the Diet and the dodgers immediately scored the Nick Anderson comes in and he's given up a run sixty games. He gives up two runs right after that I mean what did you? He's obviously not enrolling, but the raise weren't scoring off the pitchers like on the as bad as that decision. WAS IT in other questions? Do you see this as an all time managerial error in the history of baseball or do you see maybe as a damning moment of the licks movement in any way Paschke? I, see it as bullets but I think the most interesting part about this. The ironic thing is the process that cash was using to take out of the game who put their process into Tampa Bay Organization, Andrew Freedman. So it was like the Trojan Horse, his his sister came back to to he won because of his system failed No but this was all time bad decision and it does this this hurts analytics. Because you believe in people who believe analytics we're involved in how the dodgers played yesterday and how they went to the bullpen game because the answer to that is also, yes, go plachy and then that case analyst gets the W. here. The analytics there's no analytics that commissioner Mookie Betts I mean he's a difference in the dodgers team this year. Commissioner that the the kind of payroll they had for these players there's the only man eliminates that can measure how Roberts handled a massage that bullpen figured it out. No I don't think I. Think someone argue there is these rhetorical questions if you put out there but that's Not Get bogged down in that taking the smell out of it how this dodgers team came together look Ramona she can't even can't even deal with this thirty two years you waited for this Ramona's team came together in ways they couldn't blast to world series losses. They couldn't for the last three decades that goes for Clayton Kershaw that goes for Dave Roberts. So Ramona what was the defining reason this team finally did what does this dodger championship? When the Red Sox won all the players afterward said it wasn't because we have. You know we weren't thinking about the history of how long it's been in Boston since the Red Sox same thing here at this team, they've been to the world series three of the last four years they've ten guys have been on all all all of those teams and I think they had been there enough where they understood how to play in these moments. Of course, eager I thought said it best after the game because we stopped trying to wait around to see who was gonna hit the big. To win the game and we started manufacturing it runs in the to score last night those were manufactured runs I was the number nine hitter getting on base mookie Betts hitting a just a bad bounce double. But then having a great read on a ball hit to first baseman at scoring from third that's that's old school based by put you on the spot right here. The defining reason why this was the team that pulled it together. Is A mookie Betts Ramona. Is a Clayton Kershaw. Finally, getting over the WHO it is go. Ahead Bill. It's Wookey. Best. There's no question. Out and paid through three hundred and twenty, five, billion dollars to. Five. Dollars to a guy to to change their culture the team in October a big game guy big moment guy and again, all the analytics of US past the fools out the window and got bats he was the difference this year the top of the order then the past six or eight failures Kevin Blackstone. I'd have to say mookie Betts to I mean I was kind of surprised that he didn't get the MVP. I mean I thought this guy had one less hit than than cory seager won as many home runs. Four stolen bases the defining hit that that Ramona just mentioned an in game six the whole run thievery that he had. That was absolutely fantastic playing by he changed the whole culture of that Emily Kaplan. The reason the dodgers won is because they were the best team all season they had a plus one, three, six, Rod differential they only lost one twenty. Team in other seasons as well. Seasons they lost the world series. Anthony. Tony Tony let Lemme explain to. Pass. Now where people believe if you win a championship in a pandemic or in bubble deserves an asterisk if anything deserves an address because it is the most challenging and as we've seen in all sports right now because it is the most uncertain time than most talented team to the we saw with the storm we saw with the lightning Lakers and now the dodgers. Room now Mama Mama Reality Very. Happy here. First name she gave me. Shelbourne you said something that I really liked that cory seager save you weren't waiting around for the big hit and then cody bellinger said. We'll move on now let's Talk Justin Turner. This is just enormous reading from ESPN's passage. In this artist of years most baseball season, there was perhaps no more telling Snapshot The United States Circuit Twenty twenty then a covert nineteen positive man sitting on the ground massless next to a cancer survivor masks with as well. This way out in real time how baseball didn't know Justin Turner's as for Monday with inconclusive allegedly until the second inning Tuesday didn't know he's sticking tested positive until the eighth he was pulled from the game that all to see him back in the fuel celebrating at times massless. What just happened Ramona? Okay Tony. Put My mask on. because. Jt I know you WANNA celebrate with your ears teammates and you understand you earn that. I don't really have that much of a problem with you doing that. But. You don't take your mask off in the photo. You don't take your mask off and you're sitting next to Dave, Roberts? WHO's a Kansas survivor you don't do that. So. You didn't have a problem with him defying what the guidelines were too. Because he was he was to be Iceland you'll have a problem with that. You believe the need to celebrate you I I think he can celebrate look he should isolate but I'm not I don't think the reaction we would have had would have been as bad if he would've kept his mask on like going over and hugging Clayton Kershaw who has two young kids going over and sit next day Roberts who had lymphomas ten years ago I don't know how you do that without a mask on we. I think honestly it was selfish and it was tactless and for brief moment in time even Kim Kardashian would agree like this is a guy who out there and disregarded all the protocols in place. It was a really really tough thing to stomach. Yeah, this was a massive failure on all all parts in Ramona. No he shouldn't have been out there celebrating he should've left. He should've baseball should've gotten him out of the stadium the they got a positive test. What was he doing that doctor's office in the clubhouse he should get out covert survivor. I am appalled deeply appalled and disappointed in everyone from this. So baseball should have stopped in forget on the field and then he should've stopped himself. Once he realized he had a free pass to get out there Hugh Shoulda thought about the others been not been so selfish just a terrible terrible even black stone. We like to celebrate sports is showing good examples to follow. sports is not done a very good job with covert. You look at what? Justin? Turner did whether you look at what does the the football coach at at SF Austin did down in Texas who was a cove. Surviving from Kobe and took his shirt off and everything, and we all whooped and hollered about that. You look at what's happening right now in the big ten in terms of football being shutdown. Sports News or do I hear all that. Comedy. I mean. We have in this nation people who have had to put off celebration for enormous life accomplishments that ice school graduations everyone is at the sacrifice in ways that I hear what you're saying. Ramona. But I still keep your Nana's he his pregnant wife was on the field celebrating within Oh and and and everything in that regards emily, you were just in the hockey bubble hockey made it to the finish line with a positive pets WNBA They cancel the playoff game at one moment for inconclusive tests but they made it without the NBA NWS l. how do you believe baseball looks today emily. Baseball dailies worth nearly didn't get on the field this summer because of their odors read they're also the only sport that potentially let us walk a super spreader event unravel on live TV. So I think rob Manfred has a lot of explaining to do unfortunately what this Hubris. Ever going to apologize you saw him on the field last night. And came in and these this happened. And this wasn't just about businesses about the Houston Astros I believe a lot of other things but those whose came in and we'll back me and Gazelle in those boos rob Manfred. Seemed, a bit affected by that. We're taking a break here back more with the series two minutes should have been affected. I'm pretty sure our new house might be haunted. What makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost? Hole. Yeah, that's that's spooky. You know what's really scaring. Missing out on Geico for help with homeowners and renters. Insurance GYCO makes it easy to see a bunch. Great. You're not sticking around. The bar is just getting started. Call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. I'm pretty sure new house might be haunted. What makes you say that the furniture is levitating on the ghost will come home. That's that's spooky. You know what's really scaring. Missing out on Geico for help with homeowners and renters. Insurance GEICO makes it easy to save bunch. Great. You're not sticking around. The bar is just getting started. A week call today and see how easy homeowners and renters insurance can be. NBA News of the moment to get your take on the seventy sixers Daryl Morey this drop that nowhere today. They're expected to finalize a deal. It'd be president of basketball operations work alongside GM, Elton brand turnover this off season for Philly. Doc Rivers Now coaching what it would Daryl Morey mean to a team Ben Simmons who doesn't shoot the three Ramona and Joel Embiid, who as the Center Position Daryl, Morey has gone away from recently. Like Garo thinks about basketball differently than we all deal and I think he's you know oftentimes credited with changing the game of basketball into into what we see today and so I if you're if you have one of the most unsolvable rosters in basketball. The. Left with is very hard to maneuver very hard to solve bring in a guy who thinks differently I liked to move I. Wish it was done in a different order I thought. Barrels name out here the Philly job earlier in the year and then he stepped away from the rockets and then they hired a coach you want the president's be hiring the coach, but we'll say. The sixers have more funny committed than any other team over the next three years integrated needed. Think of creatively there's nobody who makes Bolder Moves Daryl Maury. I. Have a lot of questions is Ben Simmons spending the next couple months working at its threes awareness you'll fit in and Doc rivers and Darryl lorries velocities are they kind of like oil and water the too many cooks in the kitchen well, that doesn't sound promising altogether Kevin Blackstone. You see that this is a right match. It doesn't seem like it. I mean, look, you just hired Doc rivers. So I, don't think went to Philadelphia thinking he was going to have daryl morey their boss. I, think you've got Elton brand sitting there thinking, Hey i thought I was running things and now darryl more here and you've got people asking about the three point question which really is less. Of a question because quietly the sixers last this season started shooting a lot more threes and a lot more accurately is just Ben Simmons who is a cornerstone the team shoes stews shooting the sick. So how does that feel again I'm not wearing you know a lot of no years into this Kevin Kevin and emily believe it doesn't fit clash. All you need to know is this one stat ninety, nine percent of the points scored in Warri Small Ball teams were players sixty eight and under the top four scores Sixers are six feet eight hundred. It. It doesn't. It doesn't compute. It just doesn't work. Okay. Doesn't mean he can't work with taller. But here's the. Let's get to it. We See Philadelphia Maybe Trading Simmons, or indeed four James Harden. Ramona Shelburne is is that what's going to happen now? I think they're afraid to trade your. But if you go and hire a guy like their Maury with the statue like that and. One of them should go or one should stay in you leave up to him Simmons for impede shooting. And do that right now blackstone. Sure. Yes. Yes. Yes. But I don't are more not to have that be the last overtly promote the platte end lack of stone. City champions Tony City of challenge for for maybe from Ramona's side of the. City right up sheltered Catholic showdown service. Ramona Shelburne Heavily Kaplan you know how this works right showdown three topics for debate, and then thirty seconds of faced onto the winter. Let's go. Take a deep breath. It's time for the Texans to trade JJ, Watt? Knock Young Houston Chronicle it up today Ramona make the case four or against the Texans Trading Wa and what might be destination for which At the take and it may it briefed me my first heard it but I actually agree with it he's about to be thirty two years old. The Texans are going nowhere and they've already traded away their first round pick this year they need to reload, and there's a lot of teams out there the Seahawks, the packers stains always seems would give them a first first round. I'll give you one good reason not to trade him. Bill O'Brien is not there anymore. So you don't have to make crippling unpopular trades just ask deandre Hopkins, Arizona, cardinals or any of the Texas teams of how that turned out. Alright out. Totally online with Ramona there. But now that you say it like that with the point move on. My mindset has been and I'm GONNA move up. But who knows a lot of things that could happen who said it? Always ask these questions and the guys right on the screen. Right? There was named Trevor Driver Lawrence. Yes. Emily's leaving the door open snick Clemson. I think he is I read this as a twenty one year old who liked, Mrs the senior year I signed up for I don't know what I'm going to have breakfast tomorrow I don't know what next year holds I don't see it as an indictment on the jets though because Adam gaze is going to be there next year they're actually in a good situation they've got good cap space and good draft positions over the next couple years. Yeah. Trevor. Lawrence doesn't need any more from Clemson. He's already learned a bit about leverage that was a great statement that he made right there. He gives himself a little leverage on teams that might want to trade for that might draft him number overall if he doesn't want to go there. Wanting to be option more than because that's what he did right there. But the points. Just, to make it interesting and now showed up three one of my favorite stories you've done in quite some time. Bo Jackson. Telling, Dion Sanders on his pockets talk about. About. Some a-list guest right there. That if he played in the NFL today, he'd averaged three, hundred, fifty, two, four, hundred yards a game with the way players tackle now Ramona. Those bowl something here or is that just what old timers always say? Vo knows a lot of things, but I don't think anyone would give him that many carries. Yes I. Think he would do very well as NFL but nobody cares more than twenty years saying there'd be Bo management. All right. How `Bout you Emily Kaplan. This is Emily Kaplan talking on twenty reality TV show and I haven't been on since February on. I think I would average fifty points the show. Oh. Wow Old I saw bill bone well, tweet this out earlier in his NFL career. Bowl Jackson who was amazing yes. We all agree only average about doesn't carries a game he would need to be at twenty six yards a carry to get to the numbers. He thinks he's getting not a chance. Emily it's been too long. Let's see whatever cabinet has its tour pros for thirty seconds face. The hockey community is mourning the loss of Joey Moss. He was the longtime equipment training room attendant rather for the Edmonton oilers. Now Joey had down syndrome and was a shining example for inclusivity. He's actually recommended for the job by Wayne Gretzky in the nineteen eighties Wayne was dating Joey Sister Song working at a bottle shop was like wow this kid's got really good work ethic and Wayne the players the entire city of Edmonton really embrace joey reminding us all that people with disabilities have an integral role in our society. So thank you joey for being a friend an inspiration to so many. Much for that Emily Catholic. Does circulating right now of the street hockey games, Joey would show up at any real friend named Wayne Wayne Gretzky. Tomorrow. Does this place look haunted. Oh, I don't think. About those two creepy girls come stay with us. Truly, frightening. 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The Max Kellerman Show: COVID and the NFL

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It's official college football's back, and so is your favorite Dr Pepper Loving College Football Fans Ville had to a store near you to treat your inner college football fan to an ice cold twenty ounce Dr Pepper today but I it's time for straight talk brought to you by straight talk wireless. The Tennessee Titans had another player test positive for Covid nineteen on Thursday morning according to ESPN and multiple reports. Players from both the titans and the bills have been informed the NFL's discussing multiple alternative scenarios for the game. Including postponing it until Monday or Tuesday sources tell ESPN's Diana Rossini by the way remember that. Last week was the same thing. Titan steelers. Getting postponed its getting concern. Now, we're just not going to play or maybe we'll play it later in the year something right? In, inconclusive positive test from Wednesday also was confirmed positive Thursday according to ESPN and reports bringing the total number of positive tests within the ten the. Titans, organization. To, twenty-three since September twenty fourth. The Titans facility remains closed and the organization is still prohibited from in-person gatherings or activities. If the titans were practising. Against Protocol. And now you have twenty three people in the organization I think more than half of them players. Who Test Positive for covert and as a result teams like the steelers now aren't going to have a by forever or play a billion straight weeks. The bills have. It's Got A four fifth game I, think. Fan cited I think it was fan sided. I saw it on yesterday. You read and see so much in this business i. know you do too. Although you know what if you're a sports fan? You're kind of are in the business. It is sort of your job to watch sports like if there's a big game on you you, you really have the option of missing it. You really don't Anyway So. So I'm pretty sure I. saw this on Fan sided yesterday. Where the the first time I saw someone say. Maybe to forfeit this. Game. and. I think they're right. If you break protocol, you gotta pay the and there's a consequence even if you broke protocol and there was no consequence, maybe you should get a severe penalty anyway because it sends a message to the League but if you break protocol. And whether or not it's causal just correlated race not like a caused b but there was a you had a practice and now there's be a covert outbreak. Just the correlation alone. The League has to send a powerful message to teams don't mess around. You know when when I thought, there was zero percent chance the NFL got through its season. And I don't think that's the case anymore. A lot of its rapid testing and and the availability of testing as if keeps saying, there was even an ethical issues several months ago about a league monopolizing thousands and really tens of thousands of tests when you add up all the teams in personnel, number of games and everything. Can you monopoly continue hoard tens of thousands of tests? In a country where there was virtually no tests available. People were just told if you have symptoms stay home. Is there a test that you know you get their hands on any? People were dying right. They still are over two, hundred, thousand deaths and what is it forty to fifty thousand new cases a day disaster disaster. On a federal level, the response has been a disaster, the worst in the industrialized Western world by far by the way anyway. And at that point was an ethical question. And I don't even think it was hard to question like no sports leagues should not be taking up tens of thousands of tests if they're not available to people. But now, there is much wider availability, the costs of come down because of antigen tests and all this stuff and their protocols have been pretty effective so far. And in a lot of usually I'm pro labor dispute between Labor and a League or management I. Almost always come down on the side of labor but not all the time here we have. A league trying to like in Major League Baseball, they wanted teams to play in a bubble the the player said No. With our families and all this stuff. Okay fine. You got a sixty game season and by the way. They're gonNA crown a champion. It looks like it's impressive. But. Again, baseball is not the full contact sport like football you know. You imagine if someone's sick playing football, there's a higher likelihood of infecting others. You're tackling each other and stuff anyway. On every play physical contact. And they're more people involved in a football game. So the NFL, there's no bubble or anything like that. It's not like people are separated from their families or anything like that but the protocols have been working pretty well. So if teams. Member, and Brady got down to Tampa and they were like having little informal practices and stuff like Whoa. Hold on hold on. This is serious mad. I know everyone wants a competitive advantage or just things as normal as possible but you can't do it. In this case, it's not the league messing up. It's the teams, the players in the coaching staff. Hippie and maybe there's pressure on players. Coaches are like, Hey, we're going to have a practice but. People have got to speak up and knock it off. Any rate you know what don't do whatever you WanNa do practice a now there's a covert outbreak and you have cancellations they should forfeit these games, the titans, any game that doesn't get played in that week. If you had a practice when you weren't supposed to and you have covert outbreak you lose. Counted as an L. and move on, say the titans played four games and this counts as anelle. That was straight talk wireless no contract no compromise Tom Brady. Tom Brady. and. His box not only office but they got a pretty good defense to don't. They top third defense. They got a tough one tonight in Chicago, I know they're favored by over a field goal at Chicago, which means that they're a neutral field they be favored by like a touchdown I don't think. So I'M GONNA I'm taking the the bears in an upset here first of all nick foles Nick Foles, who's a strutted Arizona second best quarterback in the PAC twelve behind Andrew luck he's better than Matt Barkley or Brock Osweiler. History he was better than. I mean I remember when USC and Matt Barkley was all the rage and you went to Arizona and Nick foles sliced them up. osweiler boy he's Tall Matt Barkley. He has a look about him but falls getting it done. He gets to the League third round pick. Here's a twenty-seven touchdown to interception season in Philadelphia. Then he goes to Fisher coach team. Guess what he stinks like all Jeff Fisher quarterbacks. And he gets back to the eagles. and. The coaching is different walls out again. Then he hurt his clavicle when he when he went to Jacksonville but he's back with John Deere Filippo who was as quarterbacks coach in Philadelphia the year he won Super Bowl Mvp Tom Brady. Threw for five hundred yards in super bowl they never punted once and Nick foles one super bowl MVP think about that one. So here's the rematch and Nick foles look trubisky's problem. It's hard to tell these fast athletic quarterbacks. Strong, fast athletic quarterback Josh Allen obviously. Lamar Jackson Mitch Trubisky who is going to be accurate enough down the field Josh Allen Check Lamar Jackson check although there are people still debating it but I think he's very young still and he's done a very good job actually when you look at his passing throughout his career so far heading in the right direction. trubisky just wasn't nick. Foles is quite accurate down the field. And now that he's with the quarterbacks coach had tremendous success with. I. Expect the bears offense to look a lot better right now and You know on a short week to go to. CHICAGO. And play the payers have not had a great defense, but it's been good and they have the potential to be better. And now, Nick, foles has going to have a couple of games under his belt back with this old quarterbacks coach I think the bears are set up to not just cover I think the bears are going to pull off the upset straight up. All right. I am going to tell you. How to fix Thursday night football later in this show but first. We welcome in Marcus Spears on the Shell Pennzoil performance line. Going up scoring on. Swag. oop. You won't allow. Course always. This is Mark Speir. Marc Spears Gotcha. Good Job Raj. Marcus user parks. This is my no this. Is My Marcus. Way. Radio. When he called me. He said, Hey, ready go to radio and like I wasn't expecting the call but shore. I always love talking to green. That's right and me and Marcus Spears get mixed up for each other all the time. Yeah. Although I, get it in the NFL but if you'd like to talk to you about the NFL. I. Get it Martinez. I Have Marc Spears now. So by the way, are you in Marcus cousins third cousins seventy times removed or something? Yeah I mean. Here's another from Liberty City Miss Liberty Mississippi but okay hold on are you in Marcus talking about your cousins because come on how many spears are their? Cousin. Your MOM's. From the same small town in Mississippi, we just figured it out. Yeah I Gotcha I gotcha. Marcus ever hang out. Before he became big time you know and then. I was out there to see Lsu. I. Got my master's Lsu. He played there that adds to the confusion. Yeah. But you know he didn't have time for me when you know during the championship Game Nor city is He he was too busy hobnobbing working and stuff. Yeah. Who are you back? To you get you get. I'll get your name right for your cousin to fraternize with you. Know just some NBA. Guy. That's. So let's talk. Mba. While I have. You here might as well talk NBA I have a whole three point plan to fix Thursday night football though tonight's game is good but. Let's talk NBA because I have you here here's my thing Mark Ready. Lebron James. Winning this title with the Lakers. The first one since the passing of Kobe. Bryant. We'll have a special place in Lakers. Fans hearts. Before we get to the all time stuff we've been doing the all time stuff to death. However. He still not on the Laker Mount Rushmore what does he need to do to get on the Lakers Mount Rushmore where there are only two slots that are nailed down magic and Kobe have two slots there are two available remaining slots. Is it Kareem who got five with the Lakers but was on the back nine of his career? Is it shack who got three and was in his prime the best player in the Game Jerry? West. Who Not only one finals MVP in a losing effort and WanNa finals. But as MR, clutch and the logo and the greatest executive in the history of the NBA I mean it is rough. It is. To get on that, Lakers Mount Rushmore what does Lebron have to do to get there? I think three three. and. That's out of respect for. What the Lakers have done you know I mean like to me Jerry. West. Already has place right cream has to have a place there. Already filled. Yeah but. These things are not immovable like. Jabba weren't one doesn't do it two dozen do it not not not in Laker world that's that's just a different land. But what about country? What about if you do too as the best player in basketball? What if you do to back you go back to back. You do it as the best player in the game especially after a long drought does that displace Jerry? West, or or is this Jerry wessels accomplishments of the franchise too much. Three. But. Okay. Through the knockout at, you're not knocking out magic or Kobe. Kareem because those last couple of ones Kareem wasn't quite at his best anymore I would. I would say shack Kareem would be the first one. Is. Lebron. was in a in a in a uniform mark. Why does why does shack? With three get displaced shack best player in the game gets through the late. Riley. Say Shack will get display. So who does well hold on? I. Said if I had to pick one. It would probably be Kareem because I think magic. You know. aided. His career made it longer and the festive Kareem was in a bucks uniform. All right. First of all, I need to know who's the four on there. Now, I'd say Magic Kobe. and. Shaq Jerry. Know Kareem. Five the worse. They were magic aided educated. They were short for sure. Well, these are these will be aided and shacks were Kobe. And Jerry West was will aided everyone aid act was pretty you know what? I listen hold on March forget how Mark Ivory Check was mark. I. Have an important surprise you. What do you think it is what could surprise be mark mckoy. Your I am full of spears full of Marc, spears marks, and Marcus. Marcus. Never. Ends Man. Never. Maybe that was they was calling you. They call to come on the radio I was like all right even know going on radio. Inside the. Insider. Marcus not on book mark was telling us that you had. No Marcus Mark was telling us that you had no time for your cousin and Lsu. Why did you turn your nose up at your cousin is what I wanNA know. Happy Week. I told him he was too busy for me that we all yeah. Yeah. I mean mark understand that I tried to get him to save me. To China with him to do the peace on step on bare but he claimed me so it hasn't been don't try and. Marcus I see what's going on. You were a big man on campus to baller your cousin had not made a name for himself in the media yet and you didn't have time. Now you got time for him that he's a big success. Isn't that true? Marcus? Don't let more day of full. You Man, that's my og I looked up to their do man on you. As. He paid for a man. Well. That's because you're changed. There's nothing to do with you looking to be honest. I Got Jersey in my office. You know that's my God man mark something. About mark. Mark you know something about Marcus every time I hear he has dinner with someone. Now he played what ten years in the League every time I hear you with someone it's always the other guy paying you pay for dinner I pay for dinner, Stephen Pays for dinner and it's always because he looks up to everybody but this was the baller ten years in the NFL money. Money, now. Yeah. Originally. was that Marcus. I'll pay it forward to the next generation older them the. Marcus is going to be going out to dinner with the younger generation talking about on the g you have to pay your affects pick up the check. Gritty. I did want to a world. Because you're going to bring this to mark you're like. Wait a minute mark. This is mark. This is Max Kellerman do you think you're talking to greedy? I had to get you guys back for that to be. Greedy. And I could become Greenie and I were born on the same day and we grew up maybe eight blocks from each other in New York City as it turns out. So I don't know. Up All black people look alike. Script you know. EGRENIA my case, it's not untrue. squint. You. Say We look alike. Eight. Yeah. Make show up the greenhouses just say what's up Kinfolk I pay to hear you say that I Agree to Louisville that's Louise. That's Louisiana. If I show up degrees house and to say good Shabbat you know not not with kin folks hold down newer. Guys, who do you a Marcus while I have you here. You I. Like I like the bears and the upset tonight I think nick foles back with non Filippo. No I think it's a short week. They're on the road. The bucks are on the road and don't forget they. They have to come all the way back on Sandy on the chargers it's not like on. Joe. They blew out so you don't like the bunks. Listen I. I could I could be a little bit because the injuries man Tampa hurting on offense right now my gave us questionable Scotty mill who's who's emerged as the the guy that Tom Brady seems to always find everywhere he is somebody we didn't know end up having a really good evening he's questionable but trending towards playing Linda for net is out obviously when his out so it'd be it'd be it'd be laid. Depending on guys Johnson and make makings the backup. If they don't have to. But let me taste umbro. I don't think people like we get the number with Tom Brady and see we talked about the quarterback. Foles and I know what? It I know what team like With the defense against the charges Tampa defense for real. Like. Well, Chicago Chicago has named Cafe and they got really good players and Khalil Mack over there. Rob McQueen obviously coming from the cowboys a keen. They they they are really good defense as well. They haven't been playing to the level we we had grown accustomed to, but they still playing pretty good football, but on the other side. Amp defenseman one of the touchdowns in the charges game with the peak six Brady threw a couple was was sharp feeling. Then to blow coverages out of that, it really wasn't a prolific day just play and play out down there down by the charges and five bowls is GonNa get decorated that's his that's his Mo in the NFL but like he's a, he's a really good defense mind I. It's cool to say the game will be closed because of the injury with samples but cog only got an offense. Now listen I marcus I hate to cut this short, but because Raj seems to think that. That everyone Raj is that. What is it with you is it it's not racist family. Have everyone everyone who with an M. A. R. C. Spears around the same size and works for ESPN and they all look the same to you. Don't they Raj. It's hotline I`Ma you clearly asked for Marc Spears you want to compare Lebron and all the greatest, and I, have a text message that taught alley. So that's what we followed your instructions and this is what you typically outrageous. The great mark. Alone, man I. I introduced him saying Swag Goo and he said Max you WanNa hear something hilarious. Oh my God. Oh Max Not, you professional you gotta denying Columbia Exact Nobel. This is rises. All right. Marcus. Spears Ladies and gentlemen. So we'll do a whole segment next week Marcus if you've got the time so are you hey Raj it's marcus spears. I know what's going on with you? How dare you confuse two people work at the same company from the same place m. a. r. c. both names begin spears around the same size, the whole thing and you mix them up. Terrible. Marcus Spears End Marc Spears joined us on the shell the Shell Pennzoil performance line. The wheat marks the sixth Annual Kpmg Women's PGA Championship. At Irani Golf Club. October eighth through the eleventh in Newtown Square Pennsylvania as the first ever partnership between the LPGA THE PJ of America and KPMG KPMG Women's PGA. Championship brings together the best LPGA players from around the world to compete for one of the most coveted major championships in Gaul competing on championship caliber courses. The Kpmg Women's Pga Championship has elevated the women's game to new heights and Plus the LPGA players in the national spotlight and the KPMG. Wins. Leadership Summit L. The week the championship invest in rising women's leaders aspiring to reach the C. Suite by providing thoughtful content tools and networking opportunities together, they serve as catalysts to empower women both on and off the golf course, KPMG continuing its commitment to the next generation of women, leaders, and proud sponsor of the Kpmg Women's Pga Championship to learn more visit KPMG DOT com slash. Wins leadership. With a Max. Kellerman. Sheffield podcast. The Max Kellerman show on ESPN radio ESPN news the ESPN APP and Sirius. Xm. Channel. Eighty and under smart Speaker Eighty, eight, say Espn Eight, eight, eight, seven, nine, three, seven, seven, six, the Max Kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance. Here's Isaiah Thomas the hall of Famer. On yesterday's Max, Kellerman show discussing Lebron James We're fortunate enough and I'm fortunate enough to have lived in an era where I've gotten to see that the greatest basketball players ever play the game and have competed against some of them So this is You know I'm I'm just happy to be in this era where ever had a chance to? Confu when when the Brian James All said and done I don't even think there'll be a doubt in terms of the greatest player to ever player sport was he will be it. Well I disagree with that because I don't think what we infer career value it's already between Lebron Kareem. Kareem abdul-jabbar in the Bron James or the two in terms of total career value. Okay. I don't think that's what we mean when we say greatest of all time. You know a lot of that. A lot of career value comes when you're older indyk line and you you tack on stuff you you kind of accumulate numbers and distinctions and pass different milestones of points scored and all this. For example, and Lebron James is clearly not the best player in the world, which is amazing. Just why I think he's he's already probably number one head of Korean. But like you'll see things like playoff scoring Lebron is the most way more than Jordan well, he's played in a lot more playoff games. I think when we're talking about Look Sandy Koufax is prime was better than Tom cevers prime but Tom seaver pitched a lot longer roger clements. Let's say pitched a lot longer than Sandy Koufax. When you say who was greater I think what we're really talking about is what how high did they hit? What peak? As long as it's not like one year like Ron Gidron Dwight gooden had single seasons as good as anyone who ever lived I'm talking about if they sustained it for a while Sandy Colfax had a five or six, but really four year prime that was unmatched in baseball history. Roger Clemens. Pitched way longer than Colfax never as good as Colfax. Colfax is best right. So for career value. Lebron's probably already got him Kareem. That's not really what we mean look Michael Jordan. Let's let's break this down offense and defense right? Ostensibly Michael Jordan's the all time scoring average leader. All Time including Wilt Chamberlain. Michael Jordan averaged more points a game than Wilt Chamberlain. Yeah, but that's just scoring. Lebron is big and he can rebound and he's a great passer assists and and he could shoot the three at least takes more and Jordan didn't shoot the three allowed to start his career. Yada. Yada. Yada Okay But P. E. R. is player Efficiency Rating. John Highlanders play player efficiency rating takes into account all the stats you like to look at points scored assists. Offense defensive rebound steals turnovers and it uses a weighted average. That's kind of rational and straightforward. To take all those numbers that people love attritional numbers and come up with an efficiency rating Michael, Jordan's four his career which includes. The last two seasons in Washington right. So real decline years bringing the average down. Michael Jordan's player efficiency rating. which takes all that stuff into account that you WANNA point to for Lebron is higher than Lebron's Lebron hasn't yet really hit his decline years. When that kicks in IT'S GONNA. It's GonNa make the gap even wider. So Jordan scored more but Jordan was also a more efficient overall offensive player than there's Defense Michael joins a nine time first team, all defensive player that's backed up by the analytics by the way. Not just by reputation. And he won defensive player of the year. It's better defender. Better offensive player better defensive player. What else is there the effect on a team? Lebron. James has been to ten finals amazing and his lost six. I don't throw away the first Cleveland loss I don't care about that. He didn't have anyone with them. But the first loss. MIAMI, he was crewed up lost to the Mavericks and the second loss in Miami at the end of the four years came to the Spurs. I lead a beautiful brand of basketball but go ahead beat it. Lost to them to. Forget about the first loss to the warriors no K. D. or Kyrie. It's ridiculous. Sorry. Kevin. Love Kyri. That's ridiculous. I don't count that against Lebron. Nor once they got K. D. Could Lebron come on? Let's be realistic. So the real to and focusing on with the heat. Let me tell you what Jordan did. The first time he played with a single other all stars entire crude never played with one other all-star until he got Scottie Pippen, who is not yet in his prime but made his first. All Star Team took defending Champ Pistons Seven Games lost in game seven because pippen had a migraine played forty minutes scored two points. So in other words, he was once again without all-star. Every other season his career when he played a full season with one other all star at least he always won the championship and under seven games. So. In terms of by the way, well, the Lee he didn't have to go through the warriors. Lebron did stop that. When he came back. His first full season back. He went through the Sixty Win Orlando Magic Shack Penny team swept them. And then beat a sixty four win Seattle team with Gary Payton, Shawn Kemp and all them. Stop It. So offensively. Jordan's better. Defensively, Jordan's better Jordan was more of a winner and better under pressure. And on top of all that the impression they each made on their contemporary audiences. There's a reason that Jordan sneakers still outsell Lebron's five to ten to one. Michael Jordan made a bigger impression on his contemporary audience than any athlete in the history of the planet. Earth. The contenders that we know about. Right. Babe Ruth once upon a time. And Muhammad Ali. That in terms of WHO's the goat, it's it's it's for his career. It's going to be Lebron. But what we mean when we say greatest of all time, it's Michael. Jordan. I gotta get to Thursday night football Thursday night football plan Raj Eighty Eight, say ESPN, how much time do I have left in this segment? You got about two minutes in this one is set it up I mean you can go. Eighty eight say ESPN here. It actually got women and I'M GONNA. I'M GONNA I have on my phone. This is coach Mackie's idea my steady buckets Ski Basketball Skills Development League in New York City my eldest daughter goes to it. and Bill Wolfe. EXECUTIVE ESPN. Refined this with mackey. And I am the positive of this idea. It's my idea therefore ready for this Raj. Three. Point plan to fix Thursday night football. We got a really good one bucks and bears tonight but three-point plan one? Only, teams coming off a bye week play. Thursday night game. Okay. So you have proper rest and recovery for the players. Enough prep time for the coaches travels easy. Okay. To you got to get rid of bad games on Thursdays right. Ready for this each four team division has its bye week at the same time. One Week is the NFC east the next week the AFC north like this that simple right? So Thursday nights become. Divisional doubleheaders rivalry night every Thursday night one division plays a double header with proper rest. Imagine it's not only rams seahawks, but it's also cardinals forty niners. Eddie everyone coming off a bye chiefs, raiders and Broncos chargers, right. Okay. So, you need an eighteen week season for this, right? That's right. You're going to get an eighteen week season. Because, you have to reconfigure the schedule a little bit first couple of weeks. No. One can have a by obviously like that. Then they all start sitting down you need an eighteen weeks season great. Do Three preseason games instead of four play one week into January. The owners get their longer season protracted interest in the NFL even if each owner doesn't get one extra game like they want. But the main thing is Thursday nights or an event unlike they are right. That's coach. Mackie's. But. Really. Let's just call it mine. Six to fix for Thursday night football I like it. The Max Kellerman show the podcast. The Max Kellerman show on ESPN RADIO ESPN news, the ESPN APP and Sirius Xm Channel Eighty and on your smart speaker reach me at one, eighty, eight say espn. One, eight, eight, eight, seven, two, nine, three, seven, seven, six, the Max. Kellerman show is presented by progressive insurance drivers who save with Progressive Save over seven hundred and fifty dollars on average or click today and find out if they could save you hundreds on your car insurance, you heard I think. Is Good to hear your voice. Out Your Yoni intro and. Down here messes last week. So. We're GONNA YOU'RE GONNA get the last take today I. Haven't got enough calls today. You're on the Dr Pepper call in line. What sound do you want me to throw to Raj? Just had this conversation that you really did you bill Well, I played mad I didn't exactly simulate seasons but still slow. There was something that happened back in the first segment where there was a little mix up that you started but instead of letting me. Call One, eight, hundred, six, nine. Let's hear what happened. Earlier. Go ahead you you can play for us what's going on Swag oop. You WanNa. Laugh. Always This is Marc Spears. Marc, Spears Gotcha good job br Raj. Marcus. I'm full of spears. I'm full of Marc, spears marks and Marcus. Marcus. Never end man. Never. They was calling you. They called me to come on the radio I was like I didn't even know what was going on the radio. Home Max how could you let that happen? This is a nationally televised show not only is it nationally televised also on TV which can catch on ESPN, we hold on stop right there. Right there. I want who's going to decide this just can't just be you and me who else is going to get in on this Raj where Allie was involved in this as Allie Allie. Did you hear what Raj just said I just want let's talk about his credibility for a second. He said not only is this nationally televised, but you can also see it on TV. Radio. Oh. Oh. What you said was not only is it nationally televised, but you can also see it on tv much like you called Marc Spears instead of Marcus Spears we've never had Marc Spears on this show and I've never Never, ask. You did you want to talk about Isiah Thomas Comments which yesterday he said? On your show which is nationally televised gentlemen us the room number. Who did rushed Ed Lodge that you the long number? Yes. He sent us Marc. Spears number. So we called Marc Spears and he was like I had no idea what's going on radio. So we related that message to Rajini News like what do you mean I've been texting with him and then clearly we found out that it was the wrong way or so wait Raj was actually texting with Marc Spears Marcus. Here's mark s he sent us marks number to call Oh oh, I see. But do you see how brazenly dislikes about it and makes up? You know he tries to make it sound realistic like I wanted to talk about basketball but you did you radio topic and you jumped right to the conversation. To make nominee that if you're lemons Raj. Raj Hands you lemons. From lemonade. If you ask for someone I do it. That's what I do my job I try and make it happen for you. So you from our experience, I, gave them A. Number. Now, Marcus and I just happened to be texting because we get down like that. You know we talk about stuff and then he was able to come on. Incidence the Dr Pepper call in line there has been a josh from new. Jersey who has waited like two hours to say this he has the burning need even though it hasn't been a topic today to either say this or ask this question. So without further ADO, here's the last take for this show. What time is it? Now let's see how much time we have here Yeah Josh in New Jersey you got a minute go ahead. All right with all the outrageous money that college sports music for their schools are you for or against the athletes getting a cut? Four here's the issue college sports. Okay. If people are interested in it part of. Part of the reason they're interested in it, it's not like it's the highest like college basketball's highest league outside of the NBA it's not like AAA baseball or something. Part of the reason people are interested in it is because it's amateur is because they're not getting paid. Here's the kind of paradox. All right. Once you point the camera at it because people are interested in it and to the people. And you charge commercial time because there is so much interest you're now generating revenue. So you're really in a pickle because either you pay the players who are the WHO's labor after all is while everyone's profiting. Unfairly unjustly don't pay them at the very least. What the NCAA can do is drop their stupid and ridiculous amateurism rules like if you don't want to pay him at least let them profit over off their own likeness. I can compete in some Amateur Chess Club in college, but I can also side like. Write a book or or autographs whatever and make money the NCAA's need and understanding that they must control. They are unpaid labor market is what's so detestable. About the whole thing. But no I'm I'm in favor of pain. They're generating the dough I'm making money off it. Why shouldn't they? Thursday night football I got a feeling. The bears can pull the upset. We'll see tomorrow Max, Kellerman, show ESPN radio.

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Make Your Pitch

Baseball Tonight with Buster Olney

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Make Your Pitch

"Baseball tonight, the podcast. This is the baseball tonight, but cast for flying April nineteen two thousand nineteen BUSTER only, our producer every day is Josh macrey news and notes of the day Susan's lesser of the San Francisco Chronicle reported that Chris Davis got a two year thirty three and a half million dollar extension. That seems absolutely procreate for guy who really has become perhaps the best home run hitter in baseball sa- great fit for the ethics as well. On a two year deal. Dustin Pedroia is back on the injured list with a knee injury. This of course after he came out of the game on Wednesday. The expectation is Francisco endore will rejoin the Cleveland Indians for their weekend series against the Atlanta Braves kind of fired up about that. Because we got the Braves in the Indians on Sunday night baseball, and I'll be talking with Mr. door over the weekend. The Mariners and the angels what a crazy game. The angels were down eight runs. It was tended. To when they came all the way back then tied the game at ten all. But in the top of the ninth inning this happened. Allen anger the pitch on the way swinging grub all left side hit through hit. Haniger racing toward he will score the ball Goodwin. The throat a third. Jay, Bruce, weather bench shit RBI single through a wide open left side of the infield. And the Mariners have the lead. That seven ten ESPN Seattle recruits with a call. So Josh is that a bad loss or good loss. If you come back from ten to down and after the game, you give up the eleventh run, you lose eleven ten. How are you feeling as you go home? It's a bad loss. You may as well have just lost eleven to you know, to to to make that effort to come all the way back, but then not be able to finish the job. That's things even more. Yeah. Brad osmium. Sure. The angels manager told reporters afterward. Hey, love the fighting our guys love the fact, they came back. But you know, when Mike trout was driving back this house that one hurts because we worked all the way back, and then we couldn't finish the deal. The reds played the Padres, Joey Votto at a good night. So to Tucker Barnhart hit well back in the right field at balls in a bunch that ball is off the wall. No, they say homerun Tucker Barnhart with a line drive home run to right field. First base by Bill Welty saw where the ball landed and immediately gave that circular motion with the in. Index-finger number one of the year for Tucker Barnhart was Marty Brennaman seven hundred wwl w Cincinnati wins four two one Josh when broadcasting legends like Ted Lightner Marty Brennaman are the same level in the same press box. You think they got a special handshake players do I hope so or maybe just like a subtle head nod. You know, they don't wanna make big of a deal out of it. But it's it's a look it's a look in a slight head. Not you to man. No, you know question about it Rockies Phillies Rockies plan better recent days, and they got help from Ryan McMahon years the pitch and if so deep to right field way back there. Hits on the mound in the Rockies bullpen. Why? Mcmahon. His put the Rockies on the board in a big way three run bomb. Eight fifty KOA Colorado wins that game six two to the dodgers in Milwaukee. Julio Arrhenius was terrific in this game. And he was backed by max Muncie and much hits the ball Daytona center fail this balls back. This Ghana two run shot for max Muncie, months fifth of the season and the dodgers lead it three enough. Tim never am five seventy sports LA winds three to one the nationals beat the giants. Forty two with help from Wilmer Defoe Pomeranz. Three one swing a long time to left field going back and can only watch. Homerun? Dissection? Four rose in St. foes, first home run batting right here. This year in his second overall. That from the nationals radio network centerfield. The day. The game of the day was at the Trump on Thursday. The Baltimore Orioles trying to slow down the hottest team in baseball the Tampa Bay rays and the Orioles actually were in a great spot. Bottom of the ninth inning, a five to four lead and AVI sale Garcia, man. He did some damage. Deep. Center. Perry says to tie this game. Man that was a monster shot that call on Sunsport just that reminded me. I don't know if you've ever done this. But if you really club a high fastball and wiffle ball, nothing feels better and at my house, that's a pool shot when you get one like that. Okay. He hit it up in the outer ring. I think I heard today that it was only the six time that ball had been hit to that spot. That was a bomb. It was I'm just impressed. It's your second wiffle ball reference in as many days BUSTER, syncing senior. Will it spring? Right. The getting outside with with my son, Jake, and I've got a story about that next week. That's not so good for him. Right. So as five all in the top of the eleventh inning, joy Rickard came to the plate with runners on base and chew swinging align drive patient. Left be line to the corner. Davis scores Reza's heading thirties. Be said he's around third coming to the plate. The relax rebounders the tag. He is out at the plea released trying to score from first gunned down, but Joey Rickard has given the Orioles the lead. That's right. Chris Davis going to go ahead run in the top of the eleventh inning, Jim hunters call on a five point seven the game. The Orioles were clinging to that six five lead in the bottom of the eleventh Robertson off first base cracks ceremonies who's coming. Coming makes Greg sliding catch. Tremendous speed in center field Cedric Mullins huge play by Senate. They tried to come in with the fastball after that change up. Adama smokes that Mullen displaying deep and shaded towards right-center, but man that closing speed. It is the great equalizer on in the outfield for any good outfielder. And that would help the Orioles win this game six to five that call from Gary Thorne on mass. And we'll today we'll be talking with Wayne Coffey who wrote a book about one of the most beloved teams in baseball history. Jessica does it will ever preview of Sunday night. And we'll start off with Colorado. Let's get to it. It's the Rabbie train with Carl Ravitch. And there was a lot of talk about the Rabbie train. And what you brought to the table last week Karl you sparked a great conversation about the mount Rushmore baseball. And it was interesting because everybody that I talked about it, including your friend, my friend, Tim curtain. We all agreed. You know, what there isn't really a pitcher who's going to take one of those four spots. But along those lines Carlos Munos Senate Bleacher tweet to is asking the question. How about we show the hurlers some love to who's on your mount Rushmore pitchers Carl? I thought that was a great question ready dive into I I am. I am ready to dive into it. I would say even before you start. I guess the only name if you were to going to add them to the other mount Rushmore with players. I think for just a lot of reasons he'll probably be on our list. But I think site young would probably have a chance because of the surgery and obvious. Because of his wins. If you if you were inclined or you were forced to put a pitcher on there because a lot of the qualifications. We ended up using as Doug landfill brought up during our telecast, there's a pack the on just what that person did on off the field. And obviously the name is so associated with baseball pitching and surgeries. But they let's do it. I love the idea. You know, I gotta say right off the bat. I'm like now, I'm not doing that young. Now. He's too old. You know, he did most of his damage act before the game is really relevant. Here are my four. Okay. I've got Walter Johnson. Who to me is arguably the greatest pitcher in baseball histories, and certainly in the conversation for it. I've got Randy Johnson the best left-hander in major league history. Maurienne Rivera who the if you look at a lot of statistics, arguably the best postseason performer bowl time, even if you include what happened in the end of the two thousand one World Series, certainly the best closer of all time. The first player elected to the hall of fame unanimously, and then the fourth one this person doesn't have the most gone stats when you talk about ERA. But in terms of his place in baseball history. I got Nolan Ryan and top that I included Nolan Ryan because if I don't Josh will be afraid of retribution after Nolan scared him last year on the phone true. I don't need that. Yeah. No one can be attributed whether you're in the box or on the other end of the song. I understand all of those. You know, I guess not that I'm here to argue your points are, but if you're going to eliminate sei-yung, and I understand when he pitched and I'm not sure I get the distinction between the air he pitched in and Walter Johnson. I would say that Walter Johnson needs to be on every list of sites of mount Rushmore pitchers because he he is probably the best pitcher of all time. So that being said I'll go with I would go at Walter Johnson. I would put Cy Young up there because of the five hundred eleven wins. We're never going to see anybody come close to some of these numbers with regards to wins. No one gets near him. But no one gets near a lot of other people like Grover Alexander Christie, Matthew, you know, those people they're not gonna get touched. So I go with Walter Johnson. I would put signing up there. And then to me it gets a little hazy because I think you have to. Get into a bit more current. I think the same way we have Jackie Robinson, really amazed. I would put Bob Gibson on my list. I he had the greatest single season in history because of the year he was what twenty two and nine he had era like the rest of the league Quincy. So I would put Bob gifts up there. And also because he was a negro league pitcher and finally made it into the major leagues. And then I would go with somebody. I wouldn't go with Pedro Martinez. Because I think you have to have a Representative of the Latin American generation, and I think he would be and I think given his single seasons when he was so far and away the best. I think Pedro reminded everybody that there is a flare and dramatic nature to playing baseball's opposed to head down out there fro so I would go with those four guys I think this one is probably a little more difficult than the four may. Feeling baseball players because they're just a lot of qualifications. But I wanna have I wanna have sort of a worldview, and that's why I would go with those guys I think sandy Colfax would probably be my fifth guy. But those are my four. Wow, I see one when you were mentioning when you mentioned Gibson, what satchel page wouldn't be bad either. Like, he's considered. He he's considered by his peers who face him when he was pitching in the early like, they considered to be along the lines of a Walter Johnson. I'm surprised you didn't buy the Mariana Rivera though. I gotta tell you. Well, you know, I I love his dominance. But I think as great as he was and the unanimous election of the hall of fame his distinction from other closures, and again, this is where there's a bit of a grey area. He he is the greatest closer. But how much greater was he then other closers in the past who've been great at what they did relatives to Walter Johnson being head and shoulders above everybody else. Bob Gibson, having the dominant year look at this again is arguing against a point. That is very valid. It's a hard one. But may maybe I would maybe I'm drawing distinctions of consciously between starters and relievers. And that's probably not not a right way to do it. But I didn't even think of Trevor Hoffman release. Smith Marian Rivera. They didn't pop into my mind. And maybe I'm stuck in the pitchers mean starters. And if that's the. Case. You know, I apologize to those in reliever world as far as dominant guys. So yeah, I look there's no argument against Rivera. He didn't come to mind when we decided to think about pitchers, and that's you know, that's that's a me thing. And it's interesting you ask about, you know, how much better what was he than other relievers? If you ask members the Atlanta Braves in the nineteen ninety s they believe I've had Chipper Jones and other savings to me if they had Rivera and the had some of the bullpens they had they would have been the team that won a lot of World Series. Josh Josh because we brought you in here. I'm assuming you're for half. It has to include Nolan. Ryan, right. You know, what happens when you soon BUSTER? It does not and both of you have stolen my thunder little bit. I would put satchel page on there. Like, you mentioned BUSTER, even though he's not on your mount Rushmore. I would not put Rivera on there. Because of the closure distinction becau- and similar to what Carl said, that's not an anti Rivera thing. I just I wouldn't put him on the mount Rushmore. So I'd have Satchmo page. I'd have Bob Gibson at have Pedro Martinez. And I'd have sandy Colfax. Yeah. I actually had thinking a little more like here. Yeah. I. I actually had Pedra originally on my list, and then it began to look at some of the career things. I'm like man Randy Johnson Nolan. Ryan those guys are like in a different stratosphere when you talking about career strikeouts dominance and a Ryan what he meant to pitchers Justin Burland or when I asked him. Why was no Ryan your favorite player of all time? And he said because he was able to be a power pitcher into his forties. He's right Nolan. Ryan is this outlier with so many numbers in history? But I I get it. And I think your guys choices are terrific. I am surprised that you passed on Rivera though, because he is so much better than any other reliever. This weekend. We got the Braves and Indians Sunday night baseball looks like we're gonna have Francisco indoor in his return to the Cleveland lineup and Carl before the game on Sunday. I'm going to be interviewing Terry Francona someone, you know. Well, those interviews are always fun to do you get to go off the beaten path getting ideas and stuff to ask him about. Well, we've asked him about jumping out of planes. He told us an incredible story about that. He was swimming in a pool because that's what he does for exercise. And there were a bunch of guys who do just that jump out of planes, and they sort of told them that you've gotta try it. He's like, I I do not I get up at a plane. And then then of course, he went up in a plane, and he told us about literally how when he jumped he said to himself. You know, this is the dumbest thing that Terry Francona every done, and he'll tell you. He's done a few dumb things in his life. He thought it was the dumbest thing and then to make it make the story. Typical Tito Francona he van had his entire coaching staff and some members of the front office go up in the plane and do it again. So he jumped twice out of a plane after realizing this is the dumbest thing I've ever done. And he also told us I would never do it again. This is so typical of Francona. So I assumed that story's been told I think I think with Francona up his his expire. Is in baseball. I I would I kinda open ended with him and say, look you you've been around you've got trophies you've been to World Series. You've seen personalities please tell me the funniest thing that you've ever witnessed that has to do with baseball. Because many of the stories involve you, you tell me what the what tickles Terry Francona as fancy what made you laugh, and I guarantee he he'd have ten stories to tell you. But I'd love to hear his favorite funny. Baseball related story. I'm going to definitely ask him that. I probably will ask him jumping out of the plane 'cause it's always fun to video. And I think my question to them Carl you've seen the video, and I gotta say I've seen a lot of Ideo of a lot of people jumping out of planes. He looked more fearful than anyone else I've ever seen before God in those in those last feet, and he was falling. What do you think? Well, look, you know, there was a movie what was it called face off whatever the movie was where they took the guy's face off. There was a. Period of time where you watch the skin on his cheeks going back his face was going to rip off. And and he has that all my God. I'm this is the dumbest thing I've ever done about him. Yeah. He he also busters. Just a quick aside. He told us we did we did the Indians home opener and the night before it had. It had snowed. We had about two or three inches of snow in Cleveland the night before. And of course, they had been on a road trip. They came back. He went into the office that progressive field, and he was driving home on his scooter the night before opening day, and there's snow on around. He's on a scooter. And as he said, I took a corner Raby, and I swear to God, I levels died again, there was a car and a bus came scheme Yami. So I lifted my legs up figured it would hit the scooter. I would often I'd be okay. So he he lives on the edge all the time. Like, Mr. Magoo to me. That's who he is. He's Mr. Magoo he avoids all these little disasters. When you look back at them. And you you would see. Video of car careening towards Terry Francona on a scooter in a snowstorm, and yet he lives to tell about it any jokes about it and laughs about it. He's he is the ultimate baseball. Mr. Magoo is beautiful. You were back in the studio. The other night for Red Sox and Yankees. And I texted you have to Madrid came out of the game. You know, was that it you think that's the last that we've seen Dustin Pedroia as a regular player? One chance at question here on the pod say, I agree. I think you said, I agree. I think the implication was that may be the last that we've ever seen him. And I said, I agree. Look, I spoke to him, you know, during the spring, and and and I think that there was in fact, there was a cautious optimism because unfortunately, I walk around with a bit of a limp from ACL surgeries. And unlike him, I never really fully rehabbed my knee where it got to be fully straight. So I walked with the with the gate, and he asked me what what wrong, I said, my sales great. But I never fully got it back to a straight leg. And as a result. I walk around this way doesn't prevent me from participating in sports doing anything else. And then the ACL doesn't hurt, but you could see in his eyes this sort of resignation of once you start digging around in the knee. It's very difficult and frustrating to get it ever to feel like it once did. And this is a guy who never was a speech to. Or dependent on his legs. But he worked his soft to get back here. And the level of frustration is way past the maximum of ten in the way, it hasn't responded. And I don't think and he said, look if I had to do this all over again, I wouldn't do it. So if in fact, he's thinking about or being forced into doing all of that all over again, he wouldn't do it. And I I know his fire and passion for this game of baseball is as high as anybody who's ever played this defines who he has been through this part of his life. That's it. You know baseball player. That's all. I wanna do. I am married to the game more than married to anything else very to this game. And to take it away. We all know how frustrating last year was having to watch the team go on and win a World Series as much joy as it brought because he loves those guys and he loves the Red Sox. The level of frustration. Action was off the charts. And he was feeling like he had done everything in his power to get back and even this spring. It was still very slow, and we all kept your in some Cora and Dustin. It's going to be the times where he can play nine innings on consecutive days. And then maybe take a day off. And it feels like we we're never going to get to that point. And watching him run off. I I know I said in the studio to the people that were there and to myself he he didn't even limp off. But there was a look about him when he came off wfld after being retired that there's something about his body language that is saying it hurts. It's it's gone. It's gone. It's done. I'm done. This is so bad. And again, there was no indication hourly. But I saw it. I mean, I'm sure other people did too like something happened there and something's not good and. Yeah. I would be. I'd be real surprised if he comes back. Yeah. It's about. It's it's sad about two years. It's Manny Machado slid into him. He's never been the same sense. He's barely played since on it, just he I I agree with you. I saw the same thing and his face. He's just one of many problems. The Red Sox are having early this season. And that sports a Bleacher tweet from Gareth spark who asked do you think there's a realistic possibility? The Red Sox can be so far away from contention. Come trade deadline that they ship out some star talent to restock their depleted form system, perhaps even JD Martinez. If he indicates an intention to opt out along those lines, David prices, quoted in the Boston Klobe, our friend, Alex pier. Talk to him from David price. We don't play better. Mookie will be traded JD will be traded. We need to play better. It needs to happen. Now, I thought that was a little dramatic. They're not trading. Mookie Betts, but you know, what? Karl JD Martinez. Rick Portillo, bullpen pieces. Mitch moore. If they're fifteen games out in we're starting off June. Heck, yeah, why not do it? Because when you look at what happened last year. The ownership the front office has get out of jail free card because they wanna World Series last fall. They the ownership spent way above the luxury tax level. So they've got credibility. They certainly tried to win. They've done that with the investments and Zander vogue arts and Chris sale this spring heck returning it over for fifteen games out. What about you? I agree with price. I think lewke beds would be on the trade block if they were to do this. Because I think they're I think their farm system is such that they don't have those players coming. And I think you have to replenish that way. So I do think if you are knowledge ING this isn't working and we need to rebuild rebuild quickly. Because of the decisions they've made with some of their players giving them extensions. We are going to be a win now window, and I think the trading of those types of players would allow you to you try to win now. So I think he would be on that list. I think there's a reluctance abets to resign there earlier than he otherwise would like trout did because I think that would have happened. I think I think that would have to have done due diligence on debts before you gave the extensions to others before. You have all be back before Bogart sciences deal. I think he would have had to at least kick the tires and do more. And if that didn't happen, then that's a disappointment in the front office. I have to believe it did. And I have to believe they understand where mckie's at they don't have four hundred million dollars to give him that they are so far over the luxury tax. You know, they would blow that out of the water. So to me, it's very difficult to foresee Mookie Betts re-signing with the Red Sox. I think price is right. Where I am with them. Yes. I agree with with David. I agree with the Bleacher tweet, the JD Martinez is certainly one of those guys, and he is he's really along with Mitch Moreland. The only guy having a good offensive season. So he's put himself in a great position. But again, you have to look at free agency, and how much people are going to be willing to pay Deitch because I think that's changed too. So he could conceivably say I I'm going to not opt out because look at what's going on around me. League baseball to me. If you wanna go Red Sox problems at Largo Perez was doing the game the other night you were texting about destined for drove up when they took all the out of the game prior to that. When I saw Brandon workman warming up. I said at Wardha win the boost texted him get ahead of this. If they take him out they will lose the game. Get ahead of it. You know, get out on a limb and say this is a dangerous position. And part of the reason I said they're gonna lose not about Brandon workman. It's about what if all day was doing to that team what he had done retired eight straight throwing a hundred and four pitches and most important it was about being six twelve when you are six and twelve and have a have a chance to win a game. You are now forced in my opinion, given the way the raise replanning, and knowing what the Enke's are capable of healthy you are forced into a position to win that game and taking him out understanding long term thinking and. All the stuff that can be justified in that decision. You you took the AKIs off the mat you you allow them to not be suffocated anymore by guy that last year dominated them. And in this game was dominating them. And you brought in the bullpen and right away that whole thing went to heck in a hand basket for them. That's the position they find themselves in and it's funny. Chris sale we've got to play better. This embarrassing. Alex Cora will be okay. But everybody needs to pick it up. What happens is every individual team. Mookie betts. I'm embarrassed. I gotta start helping they all look at themselves. And they've and get into the individual. I need to win this game. I need to get the big hit. And when they don't there's more frustration. And it's the Meatball rolling rolling down the hill that just keeps getting bigger and bigger there in some trouble. And this is in a we're eighteen nineteen games in this is as big a series as the red. Sox have played in two years. And we're you know, we're in the middle of April against the raise. You know, you could conceivably be out of the ability to win the east, or at least that's part of the conversation. I shouldn't say they're out of abilities. But if you lose two three or get swept, then you're thinking at least then then to me, you're in a wildcard position, you go six and sixteen against the team that seventeen and five that that's that's troubling. That's that's that's challenging. So let let's see. But this is a huge series for both. These teams the raisin Red Sox race a chance to step on throat here. Let's see if they do it. Yeah. I would agree with you on that a big series for the Red Sox is which is the prising in mid April. Just following up on Mookie Betts and the idea of possibly marketing him this summer. He's got four plus years of service time coming into the season that of course, makes them eligible for free agency after the two thousand twenty. Season. I don't think the Red Sox would seriously put him out there. Josh part of the reason. Why is because I just I think the ownership would be concerned about the fan reaction you as a fan. What do you think? I think that the best trade. The Red Sox have ever pulled off was trading Nomar Garciaparra, and nobody gave a rat. But about the fan reaction, then and it worked out. Well, okay. Well, I tell you what that would make some headlines in the middle of the summertime if we learned the Red Sox are calling other teams in saying make us your best offer. For Mookie Betts. Get back with. But imagine what they'd have to get back that would hope that would have to satisfy not only the front office. But the fan base would have to look around because this is not a this is not a rebuild mode. You don't trade to rebuild you trade him because you can't afford him. But you trade them with the idea that in twenty twenty we're competing to win a World Series title. Look look around major league baseball other teams traded away. Good players, and you said, they're dead. And are they did hardly. Some of them are playing the best baseball. They've ever played. Yeah. I would agree on that. You know, when we talked before the show Carl about who might trade for JD Martinez. The dodgers came to mind, Robert van Scoiety. Of course, they're hitting coaches JD's guy. But when you talked about Mukhi, and it began to sort of in my head who would make the most sense. Of course, we know that it would never trade him to the ANC. He's we know the list is very short for teams that would actually have the prospects to get him. You know, kinda came to mind the Chicago Cubs because they're window is getting closer to finishing. You get the feeling there's a restlessness in that organization to turn over some of the position player group there to build the sense of urgency. I don't know that's an intriguing idea and we'll dig into a little bit more next week. But yeah, that's interesting. I never would have guessed you said. Yes. Okay. And I think the Atlanta Braves. I don't know the only thing about that is Mckee makes a lot of money in the Atlanta Braves budget is rock solid. Like their teams in baseball with the budget is in cement one teams the Braves the others the Toronto Blue Jays. And I don't see them expanding. That's why they don't have Craig kimbrel right now because the money. I think if you have an a murky ability on a franchise, but those kids that signed up boy, that's a hell of an asset to add there for the now, hopefully for them six seven years, and you figure out ways to make the money work. Yeah. I agree with you. And you know, what I criticize the Baltimore Orioles for not listening to offers for Manny Machado until it was too late. And if the Red Sox fall out of the race this year, I think the same thing you might be right up should apply to the Boston Red Sox Carl thanks for doing this anytime. Good weekend. We'll be back in a moment with Jessica Dozo. I hiring is challenging, but there's one place. You can go were hiring simple, fast and smart a place where growing businesses connect to qualified candidates. That place is ZipRecruiter dot com slash BUSTER. Ziprecruiter, send your job to over one hundred of the web's leading job boards, but they don't stop there with their powerful matching technology. Ziprecruiter scans thousands of resumes to find people with the right experience invites them to apply to your job as applications come in ZipRecruiter analyzes each one. It spotlights the top candidates. So you never miss a great match ZipRecruiter. 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I can remember when I was a kid with like I wanna go to Cleveland, but I can go the rock and Roll Hall of fame and as a kid I was just like really like you don't wanna like parents or like of all the bucket list things like, and this is the only thing, but it's like top three for her. And so I think kicking myself because as you know, we've been to Cleveland a few times and I felt like Easter weekend family. I surprised us with her gave her it was her Christmas gift. She unwrapped this whole like rock and roll thing with tickets plane tickets and everything when I knew that we were going to be in Cleveland, and so she's coming with. And then my oldest son is nine was like I wanna go who loves because we've brainwashed him a classic rock music his whole life as I was brainwashed as a kid, and so he's like super pumped because he has to go. So what exactly there's no way that your mom is generally wants to go the rock and Roll Hall of fame. She's going there within a secondary bucket lists. What are you gonna do? When you go there. Why why does she want to go the rock and Roll Hall of fame TV, Nick got inducted people? I mean, this is like a huge deal. If you grew up with Fleetwood MAC and then cenex in general. I mean, this is like our jam BUSTER like lots of fleet with yet understand we had this giant vinyl record player. Like that was in the center of our home. Like, that's what we listen to all the time just records. Right. I feel like it was kind of a cool childhood. 'cause I'm not that old by the way, it was when I was growing up you listen to CDs. But like I grew up with records and a lot of Fleetwood MAC rolling around and Stevie with someone I gravitated towards the her. Nice bonded, we bonded over Stevie. And like how her style and her funky nece and her being very feminist and just a strong female. And so when she got inducted we both kinda look to each other. Like how perfect is this? Let's go see go see Stevie. I mean, not real. But the the exhibit. Yes. So I bet you were upset when you found out like the game on Saturday on Saturdays. Jessen I and mad Alex we go to the ballpark and doer preparation. Saturday's game that the Indians are playing against the brave starts at four o'clock that probably made you wince, right? Because it doesn't leave that gap a time when you're going to go over. No. So it opens at ten I know, and I wonder. Well, and yeah, it's that we're going to get there like literally doors open hopefu