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"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

03:48 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

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"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

05:12 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

"Dna was found on the scene was salaried her panties and under fingernails. The de Mayo. That was found in her panties and under her fingernails to this day is still not identified when you look at the DNA this which you cannot say his others innocent explanation for why you would have four Indian name on her long Johns on her underwear and under her fingernails of which all the same source. I would tell you in my experience of almost two decades of law enforcement experience that if there was a suspect who's DNA matched the victims underwear long johns and under her fingernails. That person would rise to the top as being a suspect but I think this case assault yes through genetic DNA that it has to be actively and vigorously sued by the Boulder Police Department in terms of trying to track that fear me and I don't know if they're doing it. Welcome to episode eight of the killing of Jon. Benet the final suspects. I'm your host Danielle Robea. We have been following up the work of detective Lou. Smit who went to his grave convinced. That jonbenet's killer was one of the names. On an exhaustive spreadsheet of suspects. He had spent nearly fifteen years compiling detective. Smith's daughters Cindy Mara. Who is working with our team details? Just how much work he put into it. He talked to anybody who wanted to talk to him. Anybody who had a tip anybody who wanted to give their support to him. He would always talk to them but I think you know the majority of it. He spent hundreds and hundreds of hours putting together that spreadsheet and putting together the case files going through those case files just organizing at all figuring out what was their cross-referencing Having my brother his son Come up with the program. You know CODA program so that he could keep track of all of the information cross reference it. That's what he spent his time doing as we learned in previous episode one of the most compelling names on that spreadsheet concern the Henderson family. As jonbenet's father John Ramsey explains well one of the untold important things to look for a motive in any killing and this one person had a potential motive in that The mother who worked for my company was caught embezzling fair amount of money and we terminated her. She eventually my understanding was was onto another company yet the same thing and then was put prison so we thought well. There's a motive for a relative husband angry. Whoever got her put in prison so there was some interest in siblings. The Embezzler John. Ramsey had parted ways with with Sandra Henderson and those two siblings were her. Stepson's clay and Cameron Henderson and detective Lou. Smit wanted more information from them before he died and yet after an initial inquiry the boulder. Pd seemed content to strike the Hendersons from their investigation. Here's local reporter. Paula Woodward I have tried to find out whether or not the boulder police department is actively pursuing genetic in a and. I haven't been able to get an answer so I don't know I find it strange. That they wouldn't say they were if they were but then a lot of what they have done has been strange including. Are you looking at genetic? Dna to try to track who the killer might be. And then not getting an answer to me. That's very basic but now our team led by investigative reporters. Doug Long Jeanie and Dylan Howard. Along with Jon Benet expert Jamison and loose daughters Cindy Mara had decided the Hendersons might be worth finding and long Guinea. Has Some News Center? Henderson had children and given its. He had a grudge or could have had a grudge against John Ramsey and access graphics. She herself was in a halfway house on Christmas evening. But where were kids and could hurt bad feelings against excess graphics against John Ramsey himself? Could that have spurred on her children to do something horrible? The satisfy their other step. Ma I mean that's a question. We don't know the answer to that and listen. It wanted to talk to her kids. I found that a number of Sandra Henderson's Kit. Its live in the boulder area in the Denver area. And I'm going to go out and see if I can talk equipped with portable recording equipment. We joined dug.

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"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

03:34 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

"A- caught up in a situation he he just had no control over. I don't believe he's involved at all. Like God is that he he had a psychotic episode. But we don't know that for sure until we get the DNA back after collecting gardeners DNA. Jonah Jameson meets detective. Smith's daughter Cindy Mara who leads a team that continues to investigate her dad's life defining case. There's two swabs in there okay. He swapped we open the envelope and he put him in so the only one. That's touched the winter. Anything is Mister Garden and when we signed we saw it. Okay they're nearing two. Okay the results you let us know our team is close to securing their first. Major breakthrough will gardeners. DNA matched the samples taken at the murder scene. Or can we rule him out from our investigation completely. We need to wait for the lab results. In the meantime Doug Lumbini has some more information on an old lead or in another development element. Douglas Gainey you seem to have a tip. That is something that we must look into and look into quickly. There was an employee Roy at the John. Ramsey's company named Sandra Henderson and she ran into a lot of problems in Susan. Embezzlers went to prison. But you'd also been fired. I access graphics. John Ramsey's company. She was embezzler. She went to prison and she had some children and in mind. Those children needed to be checked out. Because what kind of grudge did Sandra Henderson have against excess graphics ethics and could lead to violence persons of interest. No doubt no doubt. Next time on the killing of Jon Benet the final suspects. Doug Lunghi goes to see the Hendersons. No one's ever come talk to me about. This really ever surprised me a little bit. But I'm the first person to knock on your door. The same would be true for your brother. Nobody ever came to talk to him. No I was on Smith's list like that. We're has minute GONYEA. That's why I'm wondering. How did you get the killing of Jon Benet? The final suspects is hosted by me. Danielle Rowe Bay executive executive produced by Dylan Howard and Matt Spouse and is a production of broaden water studios an endeavour audio executive producers also include. Tom Freestone Doug Long Dini Susan Bennett James Robertson. An Andy Tillett. The series is written by Dominic reporting by Doug Montero the series uses mixed and engineered by Sean Cavite and Sam Ada. There is so much more to this story. And you don't want to miss anything I can assure you subscribe to the killing of Jon. Benet made the final suspects. Wherever you podcasts? If you have information that could help our investigators and the ramseys identify jonbenet's killer alert. Please email us at tips at justice for Jon. BENET DOT COM.

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"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

09:45 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

"Did you ever know him harder. No no we ate at that restaurant. He worked in many times. Welcome to episode. Seven of the killing of Jon. Benet the final suspects. I'm your host Danielle. Rowe Bay. We we have put together a team including investigative journalists. Doug Lumbini and Dylan Howard Online. Jon benet expert Jameson. Reporter Montero and Jon Benet is his father John and older brother John. Andrew Ramsay to reopen the investigation of America's most notorious unsolved murder. This is John Augustine. Augustine is a fair amount where it's become more work now because of what we have not done loss twenty-three years right. You've got to put together a team of people that are objective that they're willing to look at all aspects of the case not just the family but also look at the intruder because really at the end of the day. There's only two theories either believe the family did it or you believe in intruder. You and your role as an investigator is to determine what evidence supports toward over thirty in the last episode. We investigated two names on that list. Both men believed to have business grudges against John Ramsey. He could one of them have exacted a terrible personal revenge for what they saw. As a professional slight Sandra Henderson had worked for John. Embezzle budget money from excess graphics. And apparently out of money she embezzled with similar to the ransom amount. As I recall Sandra herself has been ruled out but we are more interested in speaking to her son. Cameron whose brother clay had submitted to a DNA test. Our team remains committed to thoroughly pursuing this lead. But in the meantime we're going to look at another name on detective. Liu Smits List Dylan Howard talks with Jameson. And Doug the Glenn Guinea so who is Pasta Gye and who is regarded and what he say connection to the Ramsey Family Ali j allows ski owned a restaurant called Past Ajay's in boulder one of the people that worked for him at that time was Gardner regarded garden was not out in the restaurant meeting with customers he worked in the back. Making Salads allows needed needed some extra money and at that point John Ramsey uncalled for business. There was an incident with Gardner. They're the owner of the restaurant jail. house-key in which Gardner had a knife. They were in the restaurant and he he menaced allows the with the knife on. You cut him a bit. The first time I heard about a third ner was was about the incident where he had stabbed j allows the since everything having anything related to the reince the case no matter how big or small. It came news so this became huge news so we suddenly had this violent person worked at ask Jay Restaurant and of course that is b The place where the ramseys that gone eat on Christmas. Listen so everything trying to get blown up and there were stories in the papers about the mental health of Rick Gardner being in question a he had seen the ghost of Jon. Benet come up between the cracks in the sidewalk and felt that she you were telling him order was at the hands of allows among his other business interests. John Ramsey was an investor in Pasta Jay's a popular boulder pizza restaurant run by his friend J allow ski reporter. Andy Tillett explains just how close they were John Ramsey and j lasky were very good friends. It was more than simply a business relationship. The Ramsey family were regulars at the restaurant so much so so the Eight Vale Christmas Eve before he was murdered and in the days after her death. Jay Allows skeeve input. jawline Paseo his place so they could get a bit of privacy away from the media. Scrim Room Jailhouse. Ke's desire to shield his friend from the press backfired on him in Nineteen ninety-seven Allow Ski Brandish Baseball. But it's it's a two men. He thought were photographers. who had been harassing patsy? They turned out to simply be engineers and in July of that year he pled guilty to misdemeanor menacing. That was only the beginning of Jailhouse keys. Troubles two years after that incident allow ski himself. became a suspect for the killing of Jon. Benet here's Dylan Howard. Talking with our team one of the interesting things about this though. was that jail out. Ski At one point becomes the suspect and that was because the authorities were saved Alaska advising them to look into him because somebody climbed he's handwriting was a match match for the handwriting on the ransom. Note and I included examples in that presentation to police. Now he was immediately ruled Out very quickly as a suspect because he had a solid alibi he was in Michigan. The night of the murder but doug. Why did the police look at him? They looked at him because they got a complaint From Rick Gardner and Gardner is the one who told the bullet all the police department that they should take a look at at Pasta J. A- jail Hausky His boss eventually he even wrote put to the private detectors for the ramseys that they should check the brand of Cologne. The J Lasky used that somehow if they they looked into that they could find molecules of Jay and they could somehow compare it to other things from the crime scene. You know crazy Thoughts but he but nonetheless. This was an employee who was turning his boss as the possible eligible killer of Jon Benet Ramsey but the story goes further than the because win. The police department didn't seem to respond to referred anders accusation. Rick Gardner took to collecting and grading samples of jailhouse e from the business even through the garbage and he got shopping. Liska Scott notes that remark in the business and he sent them out to a handwriting. Expert named Anthony Macaroni in Florida Florida. And he said you know the Bullock Police Department are listening to me nobody to listen to me. But here's a handwriting and being an expert at listened to you you so I want you to look the handwriting and tell the Police Department they need to look at J. Allow ski is the prime suspect kind of boomerang. Moran God's sure did the neck loney cited. The hostages did not write the ransom note but he felt that the letter that had been written by Gardner and the envelope both showed signs the handwriting and ransom. Note he says is in my professional opinion. There is sufficient match with the writing of the ransom note to suspect him at being him being gene. Rick Gardner as the writer not similarly Hertie that the leash look at it well. Macaroni was also weird by of Arben frustration. He ended up on picking me instead. Me Letters saying I've been trying to get the boulder police departments look at this survey they won't but earner should be unadjusted cliff. So Jameson on one ask you this question. Did Lou smit ever come to icon credit conclusion about God's potential role in this crime according to loose-knit spreadshee- that read these were not olive properly. He not clear image felt the he needed more attention. So He's was a priority one and in a bid who checked burn spokesman. Rick Gardner now. Sixty five is still living in builder and his name is still undetected. Smith's list of uncleared suspects so if loose-knit couldn't rule him out on equivocally. What do we need to do? I think we need to grow out of Boulder Colorado interviewing for ourselves. See how we feel about him is how how do you feel about confronting someone that he's I suspect in the murder. It's always tricky. Because you don't know I mean seeing as the newspaper reports at the time of the incident with Pasta J. with seem wielding a knife at the medicine also mentioned mental issues stat. Rick Gardner had we hope that he has addressed those whom all these years Godspeed team.

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"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

03:11 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on The Killing of Marilyn Monroe

"In the years before Jonbenet was murdered John as CEO and president of access graphics fired. One of his employees named Sandra Henderson after a financial scandal. Here's former boulder resident. Michael Kish who was friendly with Sandra Henderson's ex husband. Bud Sandra who was a heavy duty major league. Petty Embezzler was suspect and her boyfriend and then apparently sheep. You fingered her former husband Bud and but a new pretty well. I knew both of them through a a Conservation Charitable Group in town and. She had taken taking money from that group. This well I was on the board of that group when she embezzled from it and she's jail at one. Oh that was after. I knew her eventually eventually. She got caught where she went to jail. Here's reporter and Utilit- so Sandra was operations manager of Henderson Tech back which was ordering equipment from access graphics. She was in charge of paying the bills and keeping the books bicycling and then in Nineteen ninety-one access Sydney placed a credit hold Henderson technology. After they had discovered they were owed one hundred forty five thousand dollars in unpaid invoices but Henderson claimed to have been completely ignorant of the unpaid money and when he was shown a promissory note with his signature on it he said that wife Sandra must have forged his signature. So this is where it gets. It's a bit financially technical. But in brief the Hendersons owed access graphics hundred forty five thousand dollars but Henderson say's Sandra agreed to pay off the debt then defaulted after a single payment. After it was discovered that she had tried to alter the Henderson tech account at access graphics to delete the outstanding balance. John Ramsey Ramsey fired her access for one hundred thousand dollars from the company that under them and the balance of forty thousand dollars was supposed to be paid by bird. Sandra Henderson only paid four thousand thousand dollars and then nine hundred ninety five they divorced and the remaining thirty six thousand dollars were split between them. Eighteen thousand dollars each the whole thing was very messy messy but in a nutshell. I think Sandra despite being very clearly in the wrong phobic John Ramsey heads in some way ruined her life. Our team put put that question to John Ramsey. Well one of the untold important things to look for a motive in any killing and this one person worked for my company was caught embezzling fair amount of money and we terminated her she eventually might understanding was was onto another company did the same thing and then was put in prison so we thought well there's a a motive for a relative husband angry whomever got her put in prison and so there was some interest in siblings. Assembling 's one sibling left town fairly quickly after the murder went to France and stayed to monitor two years. That's pretty bizarre coincidental. Yeah maybe but circumstantially it OUGHTA raise red flags. which did rush.

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"sandra henderson" Discussed on First Things First

First Things First

09:52 min | 1 year ago

"sandra henderson" Discussed on First Things First

"We know how great he was an obviously he while he's out here getting shrimp sacks we are going to look bad you know why because our return from that or two guys in college football right now so you guys can judge now. We will judge that trade once. We actually have the players we we got for him. He actually had better things to say about. ABM Khalil Mack accused Khalil Mack not wanting to be there right all with Khalil. Mack is this we love you. We know I know how great of a player he was given where our team is given financial restrictions and given the fact that we didn't we never though you could get two first round picks. Expert player made the move. You can say it's crazy. I would ask you to pay me and the team the respect of evaluated when we have the rotation would have been great you. I didn't get player for player saving more grouper. What's the messaging need to be on Antonio Brown the moment he gets there listen. Obviously things happened in Pittsburgh. We're GONNA leave that in Pittsburgh but we thought this. We believe this is a great player. We cannot believe the pricing was available for thirty one teams in the League would a traitor three and a five for Antonio Lebron. They say they're lion to you with that said we have a way. We're going to do things here in Oakland. He has said he is down for it. He said he's going to sign up for it. I'm GonNa take him at his word and the moment the nonsense started then he needs to be the person not Mike mayock when he's finally beaten down like Jeez Louise that says hey Antonio has broken his commitment because of that he's going to be fined instead. He took the wrong choice every time he even on the phone call with them. Even after he threatened to beat up three less nick after he left left still called misunderstood we wish him every time and so my question is for Gruden when we say can he fix like can he fix things what what is he trying to be perceived. As is he trying to be perceived as a new age coaches for players friend coat trying to be perceived as disciplinarian rather louis breath right. That's all I can back. It gives them a little bit. I just a push back just a little bit because there's a different way to coach different players. There are some places where you say I I need to get on the money to kick him in the butt and say get down the field and do your job. There's other players you need to say. Hey man this is your job just go ahead and do it in and they'll be fine. Jon Gruden on that phone call with AB A B he said I understand what you're going through and ABC's a special case there are certain things that you're able to say to guys like A. B. and T. O. in Chad Johnson that you can't say that other guy. That's the treat them differently. That's totally fine but then you can you know half measures then then you do with a b. You need to call him into the office and say hey Antonio. Here's here's the fifty four thousand dollars of fines accumulated. Were ripping it up. You know why we love you we understand and and and then after when he reacts negatively to define and you tell them on the phone we want to hear you gotta go to say you are not finding him for that. We are you because you have to recognize if he is a special case that he's also a bit of a head case and if if you find him again it's going to go. It's going go haywire so you either have to say. We have a standard they yeah they tried to have the Middle Road of. We're GONNA put her arms round Joubert. We're still gonNA I know and that does not work. You wanted to win games and you WANNA WIN Games. You got to have a special players in that locker room. He wanted a be bad obviously. AB was bad for the culture there. That's why they didn't get visas special player and one day. We're GONNA make room for in the hall of fame. I play nine teammates in the hall and none none of them. None of them don't any coaching staff. I was with would have given them the grace to threaten one or the other either teammate our employees okay so we can make excuses for Gruden on that when he threatened Mike me up when he called him what he called when he called him being. You know it's over without he's. I've got to be in at that point gruden sensitive. He's been nothing but a fill your show nothing but weakness that's why. Ab walked all over them. I just keep but there are Brian. We'll see in a little bit comment up or the Texans relying too heavily on to Shawn Watson. That's next on first and I all right guys time for stories to start your morning. Cowboys are reportedly working to complete a deal with quarterback. Dak Prescott quote sooner rather than later a four hundred yard passing game four touchdowns in a perfect passer rating will certainly give deck some leverage nick. How important is it for the cowboys to get this done quickly. We all to quote Marlo Stanfield decky Flan like this price of the brick going up so for the cowboys. They want to get it done. Quickly Marlo stanfield character from the greatest television show ever the wire. I try to we we work that in every once in a while. I visited a few times for do see like this happened. This happened this century general not the point is for decades important but I thought he was going to get it done before week one. He didn't my guess. Is it gets before week to you. Don't get to too high KNBR. Let's get that money. Let's get it signed now. You played well last week. Let's get that's enough guarantees. Let's get these young players signs. Jerry M can move on Jerry by another company. Is We got to give you a twenty million onto the browns and Baker Mayfield season-opener to forget on Sunday that after thirty point loss to the Tennessee Titans browns head coach Freddie. Kitchen said he won't overreact Chris. You agree with kitchens that the team should know react to one loss. We'll don't you can't overreact but they need to over coach this week. When you look at the lack of discipline the team had not only eighteen penalties but six personal fouls like you can't have that many fifteen fifteen yard penalties in a game so no. I'm not going to overreact to the media. They've already overreact. After the game they overreacted in soundbites. They overreacted so but overreact as far forest coaching up the little small things because as a football team those are the glue that keep you together in winning games. They have to learn how to win together. Nixon fifteen ah fifteen teams are one right now. You've got fifteen teams one zero and then two teams have tight so no. You shouldn't over-react own. What do y'all for what what happened to the missing exactly I promise I know I'm right but they should panic it own to do so you listen whatever you need to do to get buttoned up to be ready to beat the jets on Monday night football. I don't think they should overreact either see but often offensive line issues. It's a little bit of concern is a proper reaction is that was the concern going into the jets and it remains the concern. Even if Greg Robinson doesn't get himself kicked out of week two of the way he did in maybe O O B J considers watch the right time because on his watch cost thirty five thousand three hundred fifty three hundred. They didn't have the right time to start to gain. I blame it on time zones but Cleveland and New Yorker in the same time zone Danielle okay onto the Texans. Someone said to me it wasn't good. The team came up just short in their Monday night loss to the saints but you can't blame to Shawn Watson. He was electric throwing for a two hundred sixty eight yards and three touchdowns in the air one on the ground despite being under duress most of the game see what did you take away from. Watson amazing amazing his savvy in the pocket getting the way he was under duress from the beginning. I know they made the trade for Laremy Tunsil but they need to make another trade to sure up the right side of the Mar- The X. Sandra Henderson man trade them something they got something. Texans can give them up but I do believe he's one of the most underrated players that we have in the league and you can see with will fuller being back. De'andre Hopkins is one of the best in the League and only given date you could is he better than Julio is he better than any of the other receivers may because he's a phenomenal receiver. I believe Kenny stills is underrated as a quality receiver will add but you gotta build a protect him. I mean he's he's a warrior but he took some shots last night on the touchdown run up in the air landing on his back so this is the team to beat in. AFC South to me with Andrew Luck sudden retirement Jacksonville without Nick foles the Tennessee Titans. How long can they keep that with. Mary stays healthy the they gotta be go to keep him healthy. If they're GONNA get into playoffs I feel so badly for Shawn Watson Man. This guy was one of the greatest college football players I've ever seen with one of the greatest college football resumes I've ever seen I know him a little bit our times in Houston didn't overlap but I know him from being down there and visiting down there since he's been down there he's a great young man and an outstanding player and he is just getting beat to hell every game of his career first season in the NFL he's sacked four and a half five times per game over very brief but brilliant tenure in that first season before he unluckily tears acl non contact and practice last last year the most sacked player in the NFL this year through one week the most sect player in the NFL sacked six times hit another other eleven and when he's not getting better athletes that we have talked about how many times how many times did he avoid getting hit and I know somebody will like well. He runs into. There's some of these sex he he avoids three times as many sacks with his athleticism as he runs into by trying to scramble around for extra time but that's not the only place the Texans don't do him right. Scott Cats Meyer had this stat. I could not believe it last night was the fifth time into Sean Watson's career. He's thrown a touchdown on past. You take a lead in the fourth quarter and lost the game tap into him. Five Times in twenty five career starts. It has happened to Tom. Brady four times in three hundred in ten career starts it happened. Peyton manning four times in two hundred ninety three career Starts.

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