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"san diego police department" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"And you know what? The brain has a difficult time distinguishing between reality and a nightmare. To the brain and stuff, it's all real. That's why you react with the heart, the nervous system, the sweating and everything, because the brain, at that level, you believe it's really happening to you. Right. Yeah. So that's what I started doing. I started getting fucked up nearly every single night. How much would it take for you to get fucked up enough to where you could sleep? At that point, I started drinking a little bit more liquor and then more, just kind of mixing it, liquor and beer. Was there ever any temptation to move to pharmaceuticals? No, no, no, I never, I mean, the most pharmaceuticals I did was just a Tylenol and aspirin, trying to get rid of those headaches. But no, I never dipped into any narcotics or anything like that. Yeah, because sometimes you get prescribed Xanax or other stuff, or you'd have a pain pill because you went through and people would, obviously that's what we saw what happened with OxyContin and things like that. So I don't want to short circuit a lot of what we're going to talk about too, but I do want to, let's talk about the third one, because now this happens 11 months after, now you've got another shooting now within seven months, basically after this one. And this is kind of what sets the stage for you to say, we got to make a change here. So let's cover just at a higher level, but let's talk about the third shooting because what I want to do with our time is really get into the rehab, what it took for you to get there, what kind of impact it's made on you. So set the stage now for the third shooting. I assume it's about seven months later, right after this one? Yeah, so the second OIS was April 3rd of 2019. My next OIS was November 9th of 2019. By this point, me and my wife already decided to divorce. We're living kind of at, I'm living at hotels or with family and friends or out of my car and at the station or something. And she's doing the same, she's taking the kids and life at home is non-existent anymore. I'm back at work, the couple of days before my OIS, so November 7th, I go out drinking like a madman with my squad and I leave and I don't tell anybody. I get in my car and I drive home and I had had a lot of drinks and shots within maybe like an hour. And I come into work the next day, which is November 8th and my sergeant, he's like, hey, after lineup, I gotta talk to you. So he brings me into the office. He's like, man, what happened last night? Why'd you leave like that? Why did you drink like that? What's going on? And I kind of BS them, hey, everything is good, everything is good. He told me, hey man, if there's something going on with you, I need to know so that I can help you. And I was like, Sarge, I swear this is a one-time thing. I didn't even realize I was drinking that much. She's like, okay, so he sent me back out to the street. That was November 8th. The next day on November 9th. I was gonna say, that sounds like one of the very few times or the first time somebody actually called you out on your drinking, right? Exactly. Yeah, he was starting to catch on that something wasn't right with me. And I've talked to him obviously since, and he was telling me like, man, I couldn't put my finger on what it was. He goes, but as I watched you drink that night and when you were at work, like there was something different about you and I didn't know what it was. He goes, and I just couldn't put my finger on what it was. Cause again, I was 100% at work. There was nothing going on at work. Nobody knew what was going on. So the next day after he talked to me, I got in my third OIS and it was a home invasion robbery suspect who had taken an F-150 from a home. The following day, he shot somebody at a Motel 6 down in San Ysidro. On the third day, we get the vehicle occupied and it turns into a short vehicle pursuit. It ends up going into a cul-de-sac. And when it goes into that cul-de-sac, the number one vehicle in the pursuit followed the vehicle, the F-150 into that cul-de-sac. Me and my partner were number two in that pursuit. I was driving. I tried to bottleneck that cul-de-sac so that F-150 couldn't come back out. And now it's a face-off between our SUV and the F-150. And so I'm getting out of the car to conduct the hot stop. We have to get the driver at gunpoint. My partner is getting out of the passenger side. And as he's getting out, the F-150 runs into the front of our SUV and as it rolls back, it hits the passenger door shut, closes it. At one point, I see my partner coming out and in the next second, he's gone. And this is 11 o'clock at night on November 9th. I start backpedaling to the back of our SUV. The F-150 is taking out the entire passenger side of our SUV. And I remember seeing, as it's passing by me, I remember seeing a black object riding on the grill of the F-150. And I remember thinking to myself, well, there goes my partner and he's gonna go down the road. I can't let him go for this ride. So I start shooting inside the F-150. Now the F-150 was occupied by the driver who was a suspect and a female passenger. And as the F-150 continues going and I shoot three, four rounds, I go to re-holster. After the F-150 continues going, the driver throws a gun out the window. And as I'm re-holstering in my peripheral, on my left-hand side, I remember seeing this something black flopping on the ground. And it felt like I was there for about 10 minutes. But I remember thinking to myself, that's my partner. And I don't wanna help him. You know, I don't want to help him. I don't wanna see it. I don't wanna turn around and have to deal with it. He had just came back from baby leave that month. He had his first newborn son at home. Our squads were tight. We all knew each other's family and our moms and brothers and sisters. We get invited to family functions. And I just remember thinking like, what am I gonna tell his wife tonight? And I felt horrible. And it felt like forever. I was thinking that. And I finally turned around to render aid to my partner. And I realized that it wasn't my partner. It was our rear bumper of our SUV that was kind of flopping in the wind. And my partner comes out and he's looking at me like, and I'm like, what the fuck happened? Like, I thought I was looking at a ghost. So I was like, what the fuck? I'm like, well, let's get back into the pursuit. So we hopped back in. I'm like, are you all right, bro? He's like, yeah. And I was like, man, I thought you got ran over. He's like, no, I dove back into the car. And I didn't see that. Well, my entire world came crashing down that night because three OISs in 18 months. I shot at a moving vehicle. San Diego PD, it's kind of frowned upon to kind of shoot at a moving vehicle. So I understood that. I did it. There was a female passenger inside. I hope I didn't shoot her. But did you know at the time there was a female passenger? Yeah, I knew. But here's the other thing. And I'm not trying to come to your defense, but I'm coming to your defense. Look, you just had a guy who's a suspect, right? Home invasion, you know he's dangerous, right? He rams a marked police car with you standing outside the car. I mean, if that doesn't constitute a threat and he's backing up to do it again, if that doesn't constitute a threat, what does? Right. And I think a lot of it was at the time, when I saw that black object on the grill of the F-150 and I thought it was my partner, you know, we always tell people you gotta make a decision. We always, I tell my trainee, I told my trainees when I was an FTO, make a decision. Think of the best decision to make and make it. Even if it's the wrong decision, at least you make a decision. And this was one of those decisions that I decided to make at that time, whether right or wrong. Some people were like, oh, you shouldn't have shot because there was a female passenger. And I usually tell those people to shut the fuck up because they weren't there. They weren't seeing, smelling, hearing, feeling what I just saw and did. But at the end of the day, I made the decision to fire rounds, even with the female passenger inside. But again, all these things are going through my mind. And one of the main things that I was thinking was, oh my God, did I just make up everything that I saw because I know that I'm not feeling well. I know I'm paranoid. I know I'm not sleeping. And did I just make all this up? Did my BWC capture what I thought I saw, and I hope it did. And I'm a liability, like I'm gonna get fired. And I started, my world came crashing down. I remember going back to, I remember getting picked up from the scene and I'm going back to, by my peer support officer, he's driving me back to the station. And I remember saying something out loud like, man, I can't believe this is happening to me again. And he turned around and he looked at me and said, hey, Mike, you know what? If God didn't think that you can handle this, he wouldn't put you through it. And I remember thinking, well, me and God parted ways a long time ago. Like I don't believe in him anymore because I've been begging and asking him for these headaches and these nightmares and the paranoia to go away. And I'm doing God's work and you're not doing anything for me. So me and him split ways long time ago. And I just remember him saying that to me and I go back to the station and it was very different compared to what my other OISs were, were the captains and there's assistant chiefs and there's lieutenants and the brass is there. And people are telling me good job and you're a hero or I am glad you're not hurt. This time only the captain showed up. And it was very, I was like, fuck, I'm in trouble. Like this is not a good shoot. Something's wrong. It tastes different. It smells different. This looks different. It feels different. Well, let's get a pin in this for just a second and conclude the part. So you fired the shots. Was the suspect arrested? So bring us to resolution. Cause when you say OIS, there can be an OIS where shots are fired, but nobody's hurt or somebody's hurt or shots fired and somebody's killed. What happened in this one when you fired into the vehicle? So the suspect- Yeah. I'm telling you meth is a hell of a drug. I think he's paranoid. Quiet. We can't hear him. So, yeah. So the suspect was taken into custody by the SWAT team later on that morning. And then the female, she was caught within a few minutes after the vehicle pursuit. But neither one of them were injured from the shooting? Neither one of them were injured from the shooting. There was two rounds that impacted the passenger side door. There was one round that kind of fell into the passenger side pocket of the door. If it would have continued going through and through, it would have struck the female. So God was watching over all of us that night, for sure. But when did you know for a fact that you hadn't shot anybody, that all you had done was just shot, shoot? Was it that night or did it take later? Yeah, so it was within maybe 30, 45 minutes after the pursuit was when they found the female. And when I heard that they had taken her into custody and they were taking her in to be interviewed or whatever, I knew that she obviously wasn't being transported to the hospital, so she was good. And we hadn't found the suspect yet, so I just didn't know. It wasn't until, gosh, when was it? You know what, it wasn't until the next day when I heard that the suspect was taken into custody. He was barricaded inside an apartment complex. Wow, so you go through all of this. So this is your third shooting. And I don't want to say fortunately, but fortunately this one didn't involve loss of life, but it still involved you going through, thought your partner had just been run over. He's attached to the front of that grill, you're firing shots in self-defense. What happened with the shooting this third time? You know, just kind of give us the Reader's Digest version because I want to get into the rehab and the stuff that comes, but did this one, was this one more troubling in terms of resolving from an investigative standpoint? You know, what happened with this third shooting? You know, to be honest, I don't really even know as far as, I went through the entire homicide investigation again. I went home that night to an empty house. I started pounding drinks. I didn't sleep for two days. The San Diego Police Department, after a critical incident, we have debriefs after all the OISs. So this debrief was scheduled for Monday at eight o'clock. My shooting happened on Saturday around 1130 at night. I had no sleep. I was late to the debrief on Monday. It was at eight o'clock. I didn't get there till about 8.45, and I was drunk as shit. I hadn't slept in two days. I was paranoid. I knew I was going to get fired. I'm like, man, I'm going to get fired. My wife wasn't even staying at the house, so I had the house to myself. I go into Southern Division, and as I'm walking to the debrief, the wellness unit was there to greet me, Deanna, Dada, and one of the sergeants. They were smiling. When you're drunk and you haven't slept for two days, it's kind of hard to look into people's eyes. My eyes were bloodshot. I could smell the alcohol on me, even though I was spraying cologne on and shit. This sounds like the beginning of an intervention. Did you have any idea that's why they were there? No. So they told me, hey, we want you to come up to the wellness unit. And I was like, man, I'm not going. I got stuff to do, and I'm late to this debrief. So I go into the debrief. I come out. They're still waiting for me. They're like, hey, you're gonna come up to the wellness unit. So I finally go. I sit down. I go to the wellness unit, which is at headquarters, and I'm like, well, I'm gonna get fired now. I sit down, and Deanna says like, hey, how's everything going? How's your family? How's your wife? And I said, everybody's good. Everybody's great. Oh, yeah, see, I'm gonna say, here comes the bullshit answer. No, I'm fine. We're doing good. Oh, wait, I'm living in a hotel out of my car because I'm sleeping at the station, haven't talked to my wife in three days, but no, man, we're solid. That's exact. Hey, we are good. Everything is good. She's supportive. She said, well, how's your sleep? And I said, my sleep is good. That's why I was late today. I overslept. I was late to the debrief, and she's like, all right. And she's like, hey, you know what? Your whole life is fucked up, and you don't even know it. And now I'm looking at her, and now I'm thinking, man, am I on a fucking A &E intervention show? I'm waiting. I'm looking for the cameras inside the office. What's going on? And she's basically said, we've talked to people who love and care about you, and we think that you're using alcohol to cope with some of these critical incidents that you've been involved with. I want to offer you an opportunity to go get help at a first responder only treatment facility. And at the time I was like, man, fuck that. I'm not 5150, or I'm not crazy. I'm not crazy. I'm good. And she said, well, here, take these pamphlets home, look over it, and I'll follow up with you. Well, she followed up with me every, my debrief was on Monday. She followed up with me Monday evening, Tuesday, Tuesday evening, Wednesday. And then finally, finally on Thursday, I was like, you know what? I'm gonna go. I'm gonna go and- Why, why did you make that? What changed between Monday when you told them to piss off everything solid and Thursday? So I had nothing to lose. I had no, I was already losing my wife and kids. I thought I was gonna get fired. So I was gonna lose my career, money, my reputation. Because regardless of, and I always say this, regardless of what you do throughout your career, if you get fired, that's the last thing anybody remembers of you, right? Oh, that was the drunk that got fucking fired for two DUIs, right? Nobody remember, nobody cares about 15 years ago when you saved some officer's life. It's like nobody, right? Nobody remembers that stuff. And I knew that. And I had been there with the department long enough to know that that's kind of what happens with our reputation. So I was losing everything already and I had nothing to lose. Well, how did you get over the thing you were talking about? You didn't wanna be the first one to complain. You didn't wanna be the guy who says, I can't handle it, right? Because that's what's been going through your mind up until now. So in my mind, I knew that I was gonna get fired. So I was like, before I get fired, I'm gonna let the department take care of me because I know that I'm fucked up. I knew that I was not normal, that the paranoia, the constant paranoia, even when I was sober and the drinking and the nightmares and the headache, I knew that that was not normal. And I knew that I was already gonna get fired. So I literally had nothing. I waited to the point where I had nothing to lose. And again, my wife and my kids were not even in the house anymore. So I already knew I was losing it all. Dealing with two parents who were alcoholics, understanding that nobody wants help. Like they say, you literally have to hit rock bottom before you're ready to accept help. I mean, I'm still good, you're still on the downhill slide, but you gotta have that hard, solid thud at the end to go. There is nowhere else to go. I mean, this is as bad as it gets, right? And I always say to rock bottom, when somebody hits rock bottom, that person, they'll find a basement to that rock bottom. And then that's rock bottom. Like you can go a little lower than rock bottom. And I think that's where I was at. And so I just decided, hey, I'm gonna take this opportunity and I'm gonna get the help. And I said, yes, and best thing that I've ever done in my life, best decision that I've ever made in my life. So talk about how did you, so you made that decision, how long between you make the decision and you go there, and then how do you talk about this with your wife and kids? So my kids were still really young, so I didn't really have to explain much to them. I remember my wife came home and I said, hey, I need to talk to you. And she's like, okay, what's up? And I said, hey, Deanna, one of the ladies at the wellness unit gave me this pamphlet and I think I'm gonna go. And she said, okay, she's gonna go. And again, we were already going through a divorce. I didn't know if she was, I didn't think she was gonna stick around. So I was like, all right, well, I'm gonna go. And I think I'm going this week. So from the point that I said yes to Deanna, she basically said, do you wanna go today? I can take, we can go right now. And I was like, well, shit, not right now. I got there, you know, I bring out my list of everything. I wait, hold on, wait. I still got a case of Modelo I got. Yeah, yeah, hey, so we ended up going, literally, I think we ended up going like a day later. I said yes on Wednesday and I was there by Friday or something to that effect. Or maybe I said yes on Friday and I was there on Monday morning. Well, that shows how screwed up you were at that time because you knew the dates of the shootings, you got details, but with this, it's like, right? It's like. I'll tell you one thing is all, I remember all the negative that happened during those 18 months. I remember these nightmares, the way I was feeling. But one thing I don't remember or many things I don't remember is I don't remember spending any holidays, any birthdays with my kids, with my family, my own birthday. Special events. I do not remember the toys that my kids played with when they were little, like their favorite toy, their favorite cartoon that they watched on TV. And that was, it's such a, it was so much wasted time. I regret that. I think that it was, that's time that you can't get back. You'll never, I'll never get back. My kids will never be that small again. And I ruined that opportunity for myself to enjoy those moments. Yeah, but you know, you're making it sound like it's an intentional thing. It wasn't, it was the circumstances you were undergoing. And a lot of guys go through the tough guy. I'm not gonna be the weak one, I'm gonna be the tough one. But the same way in DEA, we always remember the worst about everybody, never the best. So it's, and I'm not giving you excuses, but I'm giving you reasons why. Yeah, and I think that's what leads to this inordinate amount of suicides. It's very similar to the military. You know, the number of suicides law enforcement has because, and for too long, there's been a stigma. Well, I'm not gonna ask for help, because if I ask for help, I'm gonna be perceived as weak. Nobody's gonna wanna work with me. And I think, you know, unfortunately it's just, like I said, it was taboo to talk about for too long, but you know what I know. I mean, I look back and I can think about the number of friends I've lost in the line of duty is not as many as the number of friends I've lost to suicide. Yep, very true. So talk about this program now. So it's a first responder only program. When it's first responder, does that mean police, fire? I mean, the fire guys were already used to sleeping most of the day away, so. Yeah, yeah, it's not much of a change for them. They get to meditate and exercise and work out and do yoga and all kinds of stuff. It's like being on duty, yeah. Yeah, exactly. So yeah, so I go to this facility and I'm still paranoid. I'm nervous. I knew I'm gonna lose my job because I know that they're gonna deem me as crazy when I get there, but I was good with it. I had made peace with that decision and- Wait a minute. What made you think that you were the only, you were the special one, that you were the only guy, nobody knows what I'm, nobody's been through this, nobody's got it as bad as I do, right? Is that was kind of, is that your mentality going in that if you guys only knew what I'm going through? No, no, no, no. I don't think, I don't know what I thought, but it wasn't quite that. It was more so of, I didn't think that they knew how bad I was that I was hiding it. So when I did go to this facility and I was gonna be seen by doctors and clinicians that they were gonna be like, man, you are fucking crazy. And you're not gonna get your job back. That's what I was thinking. And we got a separate facility for you. You're on the WAC out trail over there. We're sending you to a different location now. We can't help you over here. Do they have any imaginary dogs there? No, no, no, no imaginary dogs. No imaginary dogs. Sorry, man, go ahead. Sorry, WAC. So tell us about the program. How was it structured, length? So first of all, how long were you there? And then tell us about what they did to get you from where you were to where you needed to be. Yeah, so I was there for 26 days. So I spent November and December of 2019 there. I spent Thanksgiving in treatment of 2019 and I got released maybe like, I think it was like two days before Christmas of 2019. So when you get there, there was guys from a bunch of different agencies throughout the nation. And there was about maybe eight or nine other guys, two fire guys. And I was the youngest baby in there. I was literally a baby. Like these guys were OGs, been in the profession 20, 30 years, 47 years. One of the guys was in the profession for 47 years. And they're all just looking at me. I remember one guy was like, bro, how many, and they're looking at me like, who the fuck is this kid in here? Like what's wrong with him? Paper cut, sorting, the fire, what happened? Exactly. And he said, bro, how long do you have on? And I said, well, I got three years on with my chest puffed out. And I'm like, I got three years on. At the time I only had two and a half, but when you're talking to OGs, you got to bring it up a little bit, right? So I was like, I got three years on. And they're like, what the fuck's wrong with you? And I was like, I don't know. I think they say I'm drinking too much or something. And they're like, well, just stop fucking drinking. And in my mind, I'm like, well, I wish it was that easy. But- It was good advice. It's like, just stop. It's very simple. What's the next problem? Okay. Yeah, exactly. So, it was funny. I started doing the group therapy. So all the stuff that, I mean, you're living there 24 seven inside this home. And there's clinicians, there's group therapy, there's group sessions, there's one-on-one sessions with the doctor. That was the first time that I started doing EMDR, which is that eye movement desensitization reprocessing, which I'm not a doctor. I'm not an expert on it, but it works. Whatever, however it works, if I reprocessing the memories and the feelings and filing them correctly inside your brain, it helped a lot. So, I participated in everything because I knew I was gonna get fired. I knew that I had to have a stronger, I needed to be stronger coming out of here to deal with when I get fired and when I go through my divorce. I was like, man, I'm gonna participate in everything. So I did. The group sessions, the one-on-one sessions, EMDR, paint therapy, yoga, meditation, breathing exercises. They had equine therapy, which was awesome. I loved it.
"san diego police department" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"That adrenaline kind of acted like the beer would. It just, you know, something. Yeah. Yeah, maybe. So now did you get it figured out or did you just figure, fuck, I'm getting chubby. I got to hit the, I got to hit the, hit the circuit when I get back. Yeah. So, you know, I'm, I'm, I'm right there, you know, messing around with it. And, and then the able unit or air support unit, he gets back on air and says, the suspect just picked up the AK 47 and he's walking northbound through the parking lot. I mean, through the, to the trailer park. So. So now it came to that point where I'm like, fuck it. I don't know what's going on with this vest, but it's game time. You know, I charged my AR and me. And so we're, there's four of us, four, four officers on scene, two officers go one way, me and another guy go the opposite way. So we split up because we know that the suspect suspect is walking northbound, but we just don't know where northbound in this trailer park he's going to pop out of. He could pop out of like right in front of us, or he could pop out, you know, a hundred, 150 yards away, which is at the very end of that, of that trailer park. And you talked about charging up your AR. So how do you, you know, part of the training too, I know we talked, we hope to have an episode with the two Nashville cops that took out the covenant school shooter. Cause we ran into them at the gang conference. And one of the things was with them is even on active shooter, some people were qualified on the rifle. So you had to go through a higher level of training for that. What was it like for you have the AR, did everybody have an AR or do you guys have designated like some people will be pistol, some people will be long gun, you know, how does that work? Yeah. So you have to take a class in order to carry the AR on duty. And me and my partner, we had taken that class, I'm not sure how many months or maybe a year prior. So we were, I guess, qualified to carry it on duty and, and you can take it out, you know, when, when necessary, obviously this is a necessary event where we were able to kind of take that out and, and use it. So you, so you've, you've got your AR charged and like you say, you're going through the park now. Is the air unit able, is able, able to keep, able, able to keep an eye on the suspect? What happens now from this point? Yeah. So we, you know, I'm kind of, I snake in between like these two cars to make sure I have some, have some cover. And I see the suspect about a hundred yards away. He pops out on the north end of that trailer park, but at the very, very end of that trailer park, a hundred yards away. And he's walking towards me down this like dirt road and he can clearly see me. I can clearly see him. Although he was far, there was a, there was a wooden, a wooden fence in between him and I, but that wooden fence was broken down. So, I mean, we had a clear view of each other. And when I remember, I remember him walking towards, walking in my direction and he had the AK down on his right, to his right-hand side. And when he was walking, he was kind of swinging it, not all the way up, but just kind of almost like if he was like marching with it a little bit, like it was, I remember, I remember the, the AK kind of swinging and, and he was just, he was just facing directly in my direction. I felt like we were just looking at each other and, and then he brings the AK up in front of him in my direction and then he fires off a round. And I remember hitting the deck, you know, I get, I hit the deck and I come back up to take the shot. Again, he's 100, 150 yards away. And I come back up to take that shot and he runs back into the trailer park. And now, you know, the hunt is on. I, now I know, I knew the entire event was, was real, but now it's really real, right? Like that, that, that round, when he cranked off that round, that was the loudest fucking round I have ever heard in my, in my life. It's felt, it felt like, it felt like the wind snapped in my, in my ear. It was, it was. Wouldn't you know it too, that these dumb motherfuckers don't, they don't have to do any training. They just steal something where you had to go through training and they, they do this ridiculous thing. They pull one trigger, point a shot and they end up getting lucky, you know, and it's like, it just, it always amazes me how lucky they get with some of their shots when you see some of the officer involved shooting. So, you said you kind of heard that, those things, those things can, what, what was that movie, Heartbreak Ridge? You know, the sound of an AK-47 makes a distinctive sound, you know? Very, yes. Very, very, it was a very distinct sound. And, you know, I've, I've heard other rounds, you know, and, you know, sometimes, you know, we, you've been, if you've been to the range, everybody at one point has forgotten to put their ears on, you know, you're, you know, you just forget and you're like, holy shit, you know, that, you know, that startled feeling. Well, this is, you know, imagine that sound, but I mean, magnified times, I don't know, a hundred, I mean, I just remember, it just felt like the, the, the, literally the, I just felt like the air just split, you know, and, and it just cracked. I hit the ground, I come back up to take that shot and he runs back into the trailer park. So, now the hunt is on, you know, we go into the trailer park. At the time, from that far away, it looked like he ran back into the trailer park horizontally, but what they say they, they think, they think happened was that he ran diagonally. And from that distance, I didn't, I couldn't tell that he ran diagonally kind of towards us and he cut that distance between, between him and I. So, I go back, I go into the trailer park at this point. I, you know, I turned the corner onto this road and I'm expecting him to be on that road somewhere, but 150 yards away, not, you know, 80 yards away where he was. And it was, to me, it was surprising, but I remember bringing my AR up right when I saw him, he had the AK down to his right-hand side, the way he was kind of marching with it the first time. And he's looking straight at me. I mean, we're, he's, he's clearly looking at me. There's nothing, there's no cover for, for me. We're both literally in the middle of the street or in the middle of this, of this road. And I tell him to drop the gun. He starts to raise it in my direction. And I, and that's when I fired off four, four rounds. How many hits? So, I hit him three times. I hit him, I believe I shot him in the thigh, the chest, the other hit the back of his head. And, you know, we walk up on him and he was obviously deceased, but we still got to try to save his life. So, you know, there was, I remember seeing him and I remember walking up on him and I remember his tongue was kind of like sticking out of his mouth a little bit and his tongue was like purple. And, and I, I saw like the hair kind of hanging off the back of his head. So, I kind of, I already knew that there had been, there was a headshot. And it was just this kind of moment of silence where you just kind of, me and my partner were just looking at each other like, all right, like, what do we do? And then I'm like, here, take my, take my AR, I'll do CPR. So, we start working on him and, and then I get relieved by, by another officer. And the entire homicide process again starts for me. You know, I saw for our listeners, you can see a lot of these videos on YouTube and, and you also sent the link where we could go on to the San Diego Police Department transparency section. I looked at the first one and saw there was almost 500 photographs and I thought, I'm not looking at 1500 photographs and three shootings. But I saw the video from the helo and, and somehow their angle, and it must've been right when the shooting was going on because they lost sight the way that they were circling around and there's a building or something in the way that must've been when the shooting went down. So, you, you lost your eyes in the sky there. Yeah. So, the, the Abel, Abel lost sight of him once he fired off that round and then he ran back into the trailer park. They lost sight of him and yeah, it was, they, they didn't, they didn't pick, they didn't pick the suspect up, suspect up until after he had been shot. Yeah, he was down. So, what was this? So, and we're not going to give air time to the name of the suspect. I mean, people who do that stuff, they don't need air time, but what was the, what was the major malfunction for this guy? Mentally ill, homeless? I mean, what was the, what was the, what precipitated this whole shooting? Was he aggrieved? Angry? What? Meth. I believe all, all my, the suspects that, that were involved in my incidents were all under the influence of some controlled substance, alcohol, meth, combo of both. That's our number one rule, kids. Don't do meth. Don't do meth. And was he, was he a known quantity to San Diego PD or the Sheriff's office? Was this guy on the radar? You know, I never had contact with him and I'm not, I never asked if, you know, what his, what his background, what his story was. I, I never really been interested in any, any of the, those details, but yeah, I'm not too sure what, what his, what his history was. Well, so I'm, and I know we're getting to this, but I've got to go ahead and ask, did the headaches continue or did they go away or did they intensify? I, I had a, I had a headache that night. So, I remember, I remember doing CPR on the suspect. An officer came to relieve me and they're starting to pull me out of the, out of that trailer park. And I remember going out to the street side and I remember my one of my peer supporters, he was, I mean, everybody was, by that time, everybody had, was there. There was lieutenants, captains, people from other divisions. They were already on scene. And my peer supporter officer told me, hey, call your, call your wife. Or he asked me, did you call your wife yet? And I said, no. You know, I haven't called her. I'll text her or something. He goes, no, call her. She needs to hear your voice. She's going to hear about this. She needs to hear your voice. And you know, she needs to know that you're okay. Call her. The interesting thing was that me and my wife, we hadn't spoken in three days to each other up until that point. We, you know, where I was telling you guys that everything was turning into arguments and it was just those, you know, I'd come home and we wouldn't say anything to each other unless it had to do with the kids. And we were just kind of ignoring each other. We're in one of those three day fights. And I call her and she, you know, I call her. Remember, I haven't spoken to her in three days. I haven't texted her. I haven't called her. So I call her and she answers the phone and she's like, what? And I was like, Hey, yeah, yeah, exactly. She's like, what? And I was like, Hey, I got into another shooting and I'm going to be late tonight. And she's like, what? You know, so I get taken back to the station. And I remember every single, sorry, that snorting sound. That's my dog. Let me, okay, good. Let me make a noise so she doesn't. There we go. Wake her up a little bit. Well, let's make sure she's not snorting meth. We don't want to have an incident in your house. No meth in your house, right? No meth in my house. So what was I saying? So I get taken back to the station and Southern division. And I remember there was all the brass was there. All the chiefs were there. It felt like every captain, every Lieutenant. I mean, the entire division was filled with brass and people were coming up to me and they were saying, Hey, you're a hero. You save lives today. We're proud of you. You should be proud of yourself. Job well done. Like all these really kind things that they were saying to me, but I didn't feel like a hero. I felt like shit. I felt like shit because I didn't understand why this was happening to me again. One OIS in our careers, whether you're federal, tribal police, it doesn't mess school PD, city, county, state. One OIS in your career is probably never going to happen. It's like 87% will never be involved in an officer-involved shooting. I had just done it twice in 11 months and I'm a shit magnet at work anyways. I'm always involved in everything that's going on at work also. And I just couldn't understand why me. Why was this happening to me? So I felt really, I didn't feel like a hero. I was more like, fuck, how can this yourself more on this shooting versus the first one? No, no, no, no. I didn't. I knew that I did what I had to do. I remember all the details clearly. The only detail that I think when I gave my interview or my statement to homicide was, I think I said something, they asked me, how far away was he when you shot? And I think I said something like, he was like 20 yards. He was right in front of me. And they were like, 20 yards? Are you sure? And we went out in the hallway and he walked, I don't know, 20 feet, however long the hallway is. And I was like, yeah, it's about right there. And once the paperwork came out and it showed that we were about 75 yards away from each other or something to that effect, I was like, shit, there's no way we were that far. He looked so big, I couldn't have missed him. And I've gone back before, I've gone back after and I've looked to see, and it was a pretty decent distance. You're not to blame for that. Because remember, guys always say, they always tell women, this is six inches, right? Sorry. You're not to be blamed for being a bad judge. It must be a guy thing then. It's a guy thing. Do you remember getting tunnel vision during this time? Yeah, that's exactly what it was. It was tunnel vision. He was such a big target at the time. When I was shooting, I was standing up on the move towards him. He was standing up on the move towards me. And that's a pretty tough, I think, shot. I think it'll be a tough shot for most people, but it was just, in my mind, I was like, there's no way I'm gonna miss him. He just looked so big, so close. So we're not gonna spend as much time with this as we did the other one, because we kind of understand your process of working through the case and homicide gets in, your stuff. But let's close out on this for a second. Anybody hurt? Anybody injured during this? Was he shooting at empty stuff? Did everybody come out okay? Yeah, everybody came out okay. Nobody had been shot. I think he was just shooting at, I don't know what he was shooting at, but yeah, there was nobody injured. No, joking aside, meth will do that to you. Now with this time though, you knew what it was like the first time and how long you were sidelined. How did it go the second time in terms of how long were you on the bench? What happened? How long before you came back? And because it was your second shooting, did they make you go through additional stuff that you did not have to do on your first one? Yeah, I just remember taking, I can't remember how long it took for me to get back to light duty. I was given that acting detective position again. I was out for about three months. This one was a little quicker, maybe two and a half months. But I remember after the shooting, that's when additional symptoms began. The inability to sleep came into play and I found myself, from the time that I went home that night, I woke up at two, three, four o'clock in the morning and I was like wide awake. Well, that became a regular thing for me. I started having trouble falling asleep. I had trouble staying asleep. There were times I'd wake up at two o'clock in the morning and then I would just be up until six when I would have to go back into work because I was given that light duty position again, the acting detective position again. Sleep sucked. I wasn't sleeping much. There'd be days where I'd go 24 hours without sleeping. I'd go to work. I'd wake up. I'd go to work. I wouldn't sleep the entire night and then I'd go back to work again. I was just on desk duty, so I was tired. I still had my headaches, but nobody knew. My wife had an idea because there would be times that she would come out into the living room and she's like, what are you doing? Or who are you texting? Because two, three o'clock in the morning, you can't sleep. I finally got out of bed. I'm just in the living room on my phone, watching TV. She's like, who the fuck are you talking to at three o'clock in the morning? Who are you texting? Jake from State Farm. That's who I'm talking to. That's exactly. I see that commercial. I was like, man, that was me when I was a mess. So what did you do during this time? Was this just another opportunity to drink more? What did you do when you were awake? So what I started doing is I started drinking more. I started drinking a lot more because I was able to turn it off. You get, I wouldn't say drunk every night, but you're getting to that point, close to that point, and you're able to knock out. Even though I was groggy and tired the following day, for me, it was worth turning off my brain just for a few hours because I just couldn't sleep. I couldn't get a good rest. It was working. You drink more than two, three, four tall cans or whatever it is, and you will fall asleep. It's probably not the best sleep. How much a month do you think you were spending on beer? Oh gosh, I don't even know. I have no idea. I always had beer at the house. Yeah, I'm not too sure. A couple, three, four hundred dollars a month at least, right? Yeah, and then you're going out with people at work or with family and family functions. You go out for a simple dinner and you're drinking. So yeah, I never even thought of that. Anybody pull you aside and yank your chain and say, WTF over? Dude, you're drinking too much. Anybody tried to hold you personally accountable for how you were acting or what you were doing? No, nobody knew. Even at work, I wouldn't go out with people from work. Your partner had to know. Nobody really knew that I was drinking every day at work, at home, because I wasn't doing it at work. We wouldn't go out after work every single day. My partners, the people in my squad, I think they probably heard me saying things like, man, my fucking head hurts today or I'm tired. But when I say that I was 120% at work, I kid you not. I was flying under the radar because I was good. I never called out sick. I was not late. The first person to raise my hand volunteered to stay after work if we were short-handed on patrol. I didn't want anybody knowing what I was doing. I was hiding it amongst my good buddies also. They would see me drink at the bar when we all go out, but I never got crazy. I never went overboard with it. I know we're going to address this here in a little bit because we want to talk about your third shooting, but as it leads to us about what you ended up happening in terms of your treatment, don't you think that's kind of a flaw in the way that law enforcement... I can tell you for years, it was taboo to talk about suicide. Nobody could talk about suicide, even though we lose more cops each year to suicide than we do officer-involved shootings, felonious assault. What was the taboo? Why was it so hard, you think, at that time for you? You've been involved in your second shooting. I don't want to say you're no longer a rookie, but it's kind of like, man, you're deep into shit now. What was it about the culture that just prevented people from saying, hey, this is what's happening and I think I need some help? Was it still the fear is that they're going to yank you, pull you, put you on the bench, turn you into a parking meter attendant or what? I think for me, it may have been just the maybe ego where I didn't want to be known as that one officer who couldn't handle it or who was complaining about headaches or who's complaining about that they can't sleep. What it was was I didn't hear anybody talking about it. I knew the San Diego Police Department, we've always had an employee wellness unit and they have peer support and chaplains and they have psychological services. Ever since I started at the academy, the wellness unit has always been pushed where like, hey, this resource is available for employees to get help and speak up. That's all good, but I didn't hear any of my folks talking about it. I didn't hear any officers talking about the symptoms, so I think I didn't want to turn something positive like a good shoot into something negative where now it's like, oh, you're a fucking rookie. You can't handle it. Maybe you don't have life experience. Maybe this isn't the job for you. I didn't know if that was the way I was going to be seen as, as weak maybe. For the most part, San Diego PD throughout my entire career, there's never been a stigma about being weak or utilizing resources because the wellness unit, I'm saying the wellness unit and peer support has been around for years. So, that culture with San Diego PD has changed over the years, but for me, I just didn't hear people talking about it. So, I didn't want to open my mouth and be the first one. Yeah. So, you don't want to be the first one. So, between this second shooting and the first one, were you back to work much faster back to regular duty on the second shooting versus the first one? Yeah. So, I was back to duty after about three months and going back to the inability to sleep and I'm starting to drink more. Well, it was about two weeks after my OIS was when the nightmare started and the paranoia started. And when I talk about paranoia, it was like- What were you paranoid about? So, I would wake up from my nightmares thinking that there was somebody outside my house. I'd go and grab my gun. I'm clearing the house at two, three, four o'clock in the morning. I'm looking outside my kitchen blinds multiple times and I'm looking at shadows. You're almost acting like somebody who's a meth head or a dope head that's worried that the FBI is watching them, right? Yeah. That's why when I would see people out on the street, I'm like, man, I think I kind of know what that feels like because it feels fucking real. In my mind, I truly believed that I think somebody was outside my house. I think I heard somebody outside my house and what was that shadow? And my wife would come out sometimes. Was that like that fake dog you just said you had where you had to go take care of your fake dog? Yeah. Yeah. It ain't quiet. You're snoring. Yeah. It was crazy. And my wife, she would come out. I remember one time I was like staring out. I was opening the blinds and I was looking out at shadows and I'm shaking and I could feel my heart beating out of my throat. You could feel your heart beating in your eardrums. That's how bad my nightmares were sometimes. I'd wake up just scared or crying or sweating or kicking and screaming. But I'd be out in the kitchen and I'm looking out my blinds at shadows and my wife would come out and she's like, hey, what's going on? And I would be like, quiet, quiet, quiet. And she's looking at me like, what the fuck? And then we had young boys at home. Again, I'm clearing the house. Did you ever have any close calls to where she snuck up on you or something happened? Did you ever have any close calls in the house because of that? No, no, never. But there was quite a few times where there was things that had startled me. I remember, I don't know if it was her or the kids that had dropped a cup and just the way that it hit the tile. It was like a plastic cup, but the way it hit the tile, I jumped up and I'm starting to sweat. It happened like that. The sweat just came right away. It was crazy. I remember one time eating dinner at a family's house and it was like 4th of July or Memorial weekend or Veterans Day or some event. And somebody lit off a firecracker and I jumped out of my seat. I knocked orange juice all over the table and I went to lift my shirt to grab my, I was off duty and I went to grab my gun. I didn't grab my gun, but I went to go lift my shirt and I realized what was happening. There were some people who laughed, but I was embarrassed. I was like, but there was never any, thank God, right? There was never any close calls where I'm pointing the gun at my wife or anything, but she would tell me like, Hey, you're screaming. Or she would wake me up and she'd be like, Hey, you're screaming or you're crying. And I would literally be crying. Did you remember your dreams? Yeah, I remembered. Kind of what we talked about is you're being chased by the bad guy or I can't pull my gun out of my holster or it's not coming out or I can't get out of my car. And for some reason I'm in the back seat. I remember this dream where I'm in the back seat of my car and I was like, what the hell? I was just driving. And now I'm in the back seat and there's no freaking door handles and I'm trying, I got to get out. And yeah, it was just different nightmares. A lot of it was just, or that feeling like you're falling off a cliff. I had those a ton. Where you basically startle and you wake up out of bed because you felt like you've just fallen off a cliff and it's like your body violently moves, it jerks away because you feel like you're falling. Exactly, exactly. And in the nightmares, when I say they felt, all of this felt real. I thought people maybe have recognized me when I was out and about and followed me home or maybe the homies found out where I lived or some way somehow social media put my address on social media and people. I truly believe that there were nights where it was a horrible time. But with that being said, my drinking picked up even more because if you get fucked up every night, not just drunk, but if you're getting fucked up every single night, which I started doing, you do not have any nightmares because now I understand that your brain doesn't go into REM sleep. And you know what? The brain has a difficult time distinguishing between reality and a nightmare. To the brain and stuff, it's all real. That's why you react with the heart, the nervous system, the sweating and everything because the brain at that level, you believe it's really happening to you. Right.Yeah. So that's what I started doing. I started getting fucked up nearly every single night. How much would it take for you to get fucked up enough to where you could sleep? At that point, I started drinking a little bit more liquor and then just kind of mixing it, liquor and beer. Was there ever any temptation to move to pharmaceuticals? No, no, no. The most pharmaceuticals I did was just Tylenol and Aspirin, trying to get rid of those headaches. But no, I never dipped into any narcotics or anything like that. Hey, players, that is the end of part one. Part two comes out as always on Tuesday. In the meantime, go check us out at Game of Crimes on Twitter at Game of Crimes podcast on Facebook and the Instagram. Also, go check out our website, Game of Crimes podcast.com. We've got a lot more information there, including our book list. Any book written by our guests will be listed there. In the meantime, go check us out. Also, patreon.com slash Game of Crimes. It's where we put a lot more content you won't hear on our regular podcast. We go into a lot more topics. 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"I mean, God bless her for doing that. And we said this last time last week and we're going to say it at the outro also. Thank you to Michael for being so transparent and honest and open about your story, because there's so many people that can that are going to benefit from this. And it doesn't just have to be police officers. It's any first responder. It's anybody that's in a an occupation that's extremely dangerous where you're facing life and death on a daily basis. Or it's just anybody that's suffering from anxiety, depression, maybe having suicidal thoughts. The one thing we want you to remember, 988. That's the national number. I hope I got that right. And I always get that right. The other one I have fun with 199, but not this one, 988. It's open 24 7, 365. Somebody there to speak with you. If you're having any type of suicidal thoughts, depressive thoughts, whatever it might be, please, please call and get help. 988. Yeah, never go it alone. There's always somebody out there for you. So I'm telling you, like I said, when we got done, it was like after 90 minutes, we said there's no way. And you're going to understand why there's no way to just condense this into 90 minutes. So this is why our second time we're doing this two weeks or two episodes in a row now. So now coming up, part three, Michael Martinez talks about being involved in the shooting and how going through the therapy, going through the counseling, prepared him to better handle being involved in a fourth shooting within two years. So Murph, we can't hear the story until I ask you, are you ready to play and hear about the biggest, baddest, most dangerous game of all, the game of crimes? I am. And listeners, if you didn't do it last week, we'll do it this week. Get in, sit down, shut up and hold on. You thought last week was interesting. Wait to hear this. All right, we are back, guys, again, we're making history. We did it with Rick Rambo. Now we're doing it with Michael Martinez, San Diego police. This is our second four part interview. So we're on part three of our interview. And where we lift off last time, Michael, was you had been involved in your first officer-involved shooting. We talked about getting the headaches, the role beer played with making it go away and how much fun that kind of ended up becoming. But while you were still dealing with this, within 18 months, you were involved in a total of three officer-involved shootings. So let's kind of pick up from where you were kind of I mean, you're back to duty now. But, you know, so now that you're back to duty, is beer still playing a role for you in making the headaches go away during that time? Correct. Yeah, on a daily basis. So even though I was back out in the street and patrolling again, I was still having those headaches. Again, I would wake up with him. I would go to sleep with him. I would, if I didn't have him in the beginning of the day, I would develop it during the day, whether it was on or off duty. So, yeah. Did you sneak any drinks on duty? You know, I never did. I never did. I do remember just I couldn't wait till my shift was over. So you weren't volunteering for overtime or extra duties and stuff like that? I was. I was still I was still working. I was working plenty of overtime just because life was already becoming chaotic at home. So but I knew that I knew that there was going to be an end to my day. There was my shift at some point, whether I was working overtime or I got held over, there was going to be an end to my work day. And that that beer was going to come into play. You know, the alcohol was going to come into play. When you say life was chaotic at home, is that because of the shooting itself? You know, yeah, I would say it it was chaotic because I was having those headaches. I was nauseous every day. I was taking naps like I was I was trying to figure things to do to help control the headaches besides the drinking. The arguments at home, you know, my fuse was short. So every conversation between my wife and I just turned into an argument. Honestly, it could be as little as like, what do you feel like eating today? And then it's like, boom, you know, I don't know, just make something. I just got, you know, and it was just it became chaotic. When you read that book and it hit me, too, when you just said that that book, Emotional Survival for Law Enforcement, remember the one part where he's talking about is that when you get home, you're just tired of making decisions. You don't want to make decisions. What are we having? I don't care. I don't want to make decisions. Just somebody. I'm tired of making decisions. You decide. Right. And for me, it's like, you know, I'm not really a picky eater. Right. So you could put anything in front of me. I could eat leftovers or whatever it may be. So it was just that. And then again, I think with a combo of the short fuse and the headaches and not feeling good, noise became chaotic. When the kids were screaming and yelling and, you know, when I say screaming and yelling, they're just playing, right? Doing what kids do. Doing what kids do. Yeah. They were only, you know, two and a half years old and, you know, one and a half years old. And, you know, so they're screaming, crying, playing, laughing. And that noise was magnified in my ears. It just things were just too loud. And yeah, I think that that all was a result of or the aftermath of the first OIS. Well, when you were telling us about the arguments with your wife, does she happen to be in the room with you? No, no, no, I kicked her out of the house for this interview. I saw you looking over the side like you were waiting to see if a rolling pin was going to smack the back of your head. Like the old joke, what's the first line to every dirty joke? And you see the guy looking over both shoulders going, oh, wait a minute, you know. Before I talk about my wife, let me make sure she's not behind me with a frying pan. Right, right. At least if she did something like that, it'll be captured on your guys's camera. You guys will be good witnesses. No, we're not. Didn't see a thing, sir. I didn't see shit. I happened to be looking away at that time. I think I went to the bathrooms. Oh, what happened? Oh, I'm very sorry to hear. If she'll hit you, what do you think she'd do to us? That's right. That's funny. All right. Well, you know, that's the thing, right? As cops and stuff, even, you know, after the job, it's like you still find humor and dark stuff, right? There's still, you got to find humor. So, I mean, everything's starting to get to you at this point, right? So you don't want to make decisions, the kids and stuff. And how does that, does that increase the amount of your drinking you're doing? Or does that just make sure you stay drinking, you know, at the same level of what you did? Like there was no incentive to give it up. Yeah, I would say that. I would say there was really no incentive to give it up. The alcohol was helping with the headaches. I think that was my big, that physical pain was my number one, I guess, symptom. I would say, you know, when people say like, you know, what was the worst part of, you know, the aftermath? And it wasn't the arguments. It wasn't the nauseousness or the numbness. It was those headaches because it was just, those headaches would knock you on your ass, you know, as soon as you got off of work. And it wasn't, you know, you're, you're sitting down on the couch after work anyways, more so when you're feeling like crap and you know, you're drinking a beer or on your days off, you're trying to take a nap. And it's just those headaches, those headaches were shitty. They were, they were horrible. And describe the two things. I think we asked you this before, but it's been a while since our first two parts. But what was the, what was your favorite go-to beer? You know, what did you, what did you get? And then tell me too about where were the headaches at? Were they, you know, like some people, they get those sinus headaches, they're in front, they're in the side. Describe the kind of headaches you were having. Yeah. So my headaches would be, it almost felt like it was just like right in the middle of my brain or right behind my eyes. Um, it, it, it was, I've had, you know, it wasn't like, it wasn't like a migraine or a, or a, a hangover headache. It was very, it was very different. It was like, um, it was deep. Like it was, it was, uh, it was, it was, uh, um, it was like a deep pain in my brain. That's only the only way I can explain it. It was like a deep pain in my, in my brain. So sometimes I'd feel it like right in the middle of my head. Sometimes I feel it like right behind, uh, right behind my eyes. And what was your go-to beer? I mean, what was your flavor of choice during this time? Oh man, I'm a, I'm a, I'm a 805 Pacifico, uh, uh, Modelo. Um, you know, drinker, some IPAs, you know, that's when I, you know, started drinking more of the, You don't drink any of those wimpy Belgian beers, do you? You know, I'll, I'll, I'll drink. It depends. No, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Of course I don't. Not that, not that stuff. Friends do IPAs. I'm sorry. Just, oh, can't, how could you, I mean, uh, that's one thing that would make me quit drinking. If somebody handed me an IP and said, here, I have a couple of these. I'm sorry. Can't do it, pal. Yeah. And, and you know, what was good about them at the time was that it, it, it helped me get to the point a little faster because they're stronger. So there are some of them, some of them could be, can be stronger. Right. So, um, it, it helped me get to that, that point of satisfaction. How many would it take? It, you know, there was right from the beginning. I remember, I remember going and grabbing like tall cans and then it became like the three pack of tall cans and then became, you know, a case. And that would only last maybe, uh, two or three days in the beginning because I'm, you know, I'm, I'm, every day I'm cracking three, four, maybe five. If it is in my, is it my day off, I'm drinking a little bit more throughout the day to kind of sustain that, um, uh, to keep that headache away throughout the day. Cause it would, it would come back. So if I would, if I would drink at 11 o'clock in the morning and the headache would be away, be gone by let's say noon, for example. Well, it's going to, that headache is going to come back by three o'clock. You know, it was just, it was just like the headache was constantly there. It never is. How did it affect your sleep? It, it, it didn't. So sleep was sleep at, for the most part, it was, it was good. After my first OAS, I was still sleeping. Um, I was taking headaches come while you were sleeping. They, yeah. So sometimes I would wake up with them. I would fall asleep with them. And, uh, and you know, I would take naps throughout the day to kind of, you know, help. There was, I was trying to figure out ways to, you know, methods, you know, like, Hey, pop a couple of aspirin, drink two beers, take a nap. And then when I wake up, I'm like, Oh man, this, you know, this, I feel, I feel good for a few hours or depending on what time I wake up, I would feel good the rest of the, the rest of the day. If I, I don't know, wake up at 6 PM and I'd be good until I go to sleep. So I was trying to find methods and techniques to kind of keep that headache away. But obviously you can't take naps when you're, when you're working. So that was that. Well, you haven't worked for the county then have you? Hey, I'm not a firefighter. Yeah, that's right. Well said. That's why there's no such show on TV called Live FD. Nothing happens at the FD. Hey, well, so. But between your first, how many months was it between your first OAS? And then this stuff started just right after, and your second officer involved shooting, how long of a, or how short of a time span was that? So 11, 11 months. So my, my, my first OAS was May 27th of 2018. And then my second one was April 3rd of 2019. So yeah, 11, 11 months. So leading up to that so let's talk about the lead up to your second shooting, but leading up to that, like say during the month of April before this happened, what was your, were you still consuming that? You know, five to six beers, you know, drinking quite a bit on your days off. Was everything pretty much the same, like what you just described? Did it get worse or were you just more steady state? Yeah, it was, it was, it was steady. It was nothing. Uh, uh, my wife would probably say that it was, uh, it increased, but it didn't, my, my drinking increased right from the, right from the get go. Like again, the, the one or two weeks after my first OAS is when I finally had that first beer and, and, and I just remember it, that headache going away. So it became a, it became a daily thing. I never drank on duty. Um, again, I knew that there was an end to my, there was going to be an end to my shift and I was going to be able to have that, you know, those, those beers and, and, you know, throw them down and feel better. So it was, there was a, um, but yeah, there was no, uh, you know, sometimes I would drink liquor, especially when I was out, out and about, or, you know, at, at family functions, if liquor was around, you know, I would take some shots. I would drink some mixed drinks, but my, for the most part, my go-to was, was beer just because I enjoyed it. Did the headaches affect your, um, on duty, um, work too? I mean, in terms of like, did you feel like maybe you were getting short tempered when you normally would have just let stuff roll off your back? You know, how did the headaches affect you while you were at work? You know, that's one of the, I would say, I don't know if it's the correct word, but amazing things was that through all of this, my, my entire journey, um, I was like 120% at work. I was still being, I was volunteering for overtime. I was working overtime. I wasn't late to work. My paper was on point. My investigations were on point. I wasn't, uh, I wasn't getting, uh, uh, um, uh, complaints from citizens for, you know, uh, misconduct or use of force or, or, uh, for being rude on duty. Or jacking their modello. Yeah. Or jacking, yeah, jacking, jacking their modello. Yeah. So it, it, I was, I was 120% at work. I would say that it, um, I was still volunteering for calls. I was still taking paper from the OGs, you know, um, you know, helping them out on their beat. So I was still trying to build my reputation, but I was, I was hiding it. Although I was feeling like shit every single day. Um, especially with those headaches, I was, I was bullshitting really good. I was bullshitting my way through it. And, and, um, how long did you think you could do this? Uh, I did it for 11 months, I guess. So I, I don't know. I mean, there was, um, if I look back at it now, I think, I think at some point, I don't know. I was, I was, I was, I was hiding it pretty good. Uh, I could probably have done it forever if, if, um, if it came down to it, unfortunately, I, I, I probably wouldn't have, I, I was still brand new. So I wasn't going to be the first one, you know, at San Diego police department to bitch about headaches or being nauseous or, you know. I'm sorry, were you aware of other guys that had been through shootings that were having the same symptoms? None, none. I, I knew, I knew from people who had, you know, that I had spoken to, who had been involved in officer of all shootings in the beginning, um, that night when people were calling me and texting me and they told me, Hey, you're going to feel like shit tomorrow. But it's normal. You should get back, you know, into feeling better within a, you know, four or five days a week, don't drink alcohol, you know, don't, don't watch the news. So, um, I, I was under the impression of, well, nobody else is having these issues and there's, you know, there's guys on the department who have been in, you know, four or five, six shootings and they're not bitching about headaches and they're not complaining about, you know, being nauseous. And so I think it was that stigma of not so much of it was, uh, it was not okay to get help, but it was more of the stigma of, I didn't hear anybody else talking about it. So I wasn't going to be the first one, you know, especially being a rookie, you don't want to be that, you don't, you don't want that attention on you. But knowing what you know now, were there other people going through it at the same time and they were just covering it just like you were? Oh, I've, I've talked to people on, on, on my department and, uh, throughout the nation from folks in Louisiana and Florida and, and here in California and Nevada, Arizona. I mean, there it's, it's, it was so, it's so much more common, you know, these, these symptoms, these nightmares, the inability to sleep, the, uh, um, you know, sleep is one of the first things that actually go right in the professional. When we start struggling is it's sleep, but, uh, the headaches that these are so common and it's, it's almost like, like I, everywhere I go, people will tell me when I, you know, after my presentations, they'll tell me stuff like, man, I know exactly what you're talking about the headaches or, Hey, for the past couple of years, I've been having these headaches. And it's just some of them, some of those people never even been involved in an officer involved shooting. Um, but it's the stress of, of the job. And I'll get into that later on in my story, when I started learning about that, that cumulative, you know, stress. You mentioned nightmares too, and stuff, and not that, not so much a nightmare, but one of the recurring dreams I had for many years, and it was just, but it was also, and I think a lot of cops who went through this, the one recurring dream, you know, is like your, your weapon malfunctions and you can't clear it, you know, it's stuck, right? You can't pull. For me, it was, I couldn't get, I couldn't pull the trigger. It was stuck. I couldn't rack around into it, you know, just as hard as I would seem to pull, couldn't pull the trigger. I don't, I don't know if you heard that same story from others, but that seemed to be one I heard a lot from guys that I talked to. Yeah, I've, I've heard, I've heard people have similar stories where, and, and I've had, you know, I've had those nightmares too, where, um, you, you, you can't, you can't run fast enough from the bad guy that's chasing you and you're the cop, right? And in your mind at the time you're running from the bad guy and you're like, this isn't, I should be running after the bad guy, but you know, he's, he or she's shooting at me or, or you can't move out of the, you know, out of the way when a car is coming towards you or, you know, you fire your round and it just falls. Like there's not enough, you know, oomph to that, to that round, you know, uh, going down range. So there's all kinds of weird dreams. It's, it's weird the way that the fact that we kind of dream the same type of things. Well, you know what merch for Korean Nightmare is? Somebody's going to beat him to the blue plate special. He just can't run fast enough to get the door in first before it closes. I can still fight.
"san diego police department" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Mine came from college, too. I was a little farm boy. Didn't know what tequila was, so I'm said here, try this. Then it was one, two. One tequila, two tequila, three tequila floor, you know? Exactly, absolutely. We had a tradition in Bogota that when you were transferring out, we'd have a big going-away party, and at the end of the night, or probably the next morning when the sun was coming up, we had the circle of gold, and that involved Cuervo gold. I've seen us go through as many as five bottles of that. Oh, nasty. Look at him right now. He's breaking out of his body. He's going, oh. Now I'm about to end this session. You're having flashbacks here. I am, I am. Get the full-body shutter. So what prompted you then, so you're in Hawaii. What prompted you to say, hey, time to leave the Aloha State and come back to California? You know, it was a mixture of things. It was me being homesick to the point where it was like, it's time to go home, time to spend time with family. Not married at that point? No, not married at that point. I was engaged, so I had a fiance. I met my wife in college, and at that point, we were engaged. I was still working at the correctional facility. I knew that, hey, corrections is not my cup of tea. Let's start looking for a career in law enforcement as a police officer or with the sheriff's department. So then I just started applying. And obviously, I wanted to move back to San Diego, so I started applying with agencies here in Southern California. It's a little difficult to fly back and forth for interviews, isn't it? It is, it is. You know, in the first couple of times, I thought, you know, I could probably do this, save a couple of, save some money and fly back and forth. They had, most agencies have that out-of-state applicant process. So they kind of cut your trips from having it into like, I don't know, maybe two or three trips, and you'll finish the process. But that became expensive. It became too expensive. Because of my extensive background history of not being such a good citizen, there was times when they would say, you know what? When I applied for San Diego Police Department, they told me, I think the first time they told me, you know, let's do a three-year, you gotta wait for three years before you reapply. Obviously, we're not gonna take you right now. And then I applied again, I waited another three years, and then they told me, you know, let's wait another two years. So it was, it was- I'm getting the feeling San Diego really didn't want to hire you. They didn't, they didn't, they didn't want to hire me, but I was dedicated. You're gonna wear them down, aren't you? I am, I am, I did. So it was good, you know, we, me and my wife, we both decided, you know, or fiance at the time, we both decided, you know what? Let's move back to San Diego, and it's gonna be easier for me to apply for agencies. And that's what we did. We moved back to San Diego. I got the first job that hired me, which was San Diego County Animal Control. So I was catching the four-legged animals out there. And that was actually really fun. I actually, I never thought that I would ever be an animal control officer, but that job was actually very- And then I went to school for five years. I bought degrees in psychology and criminal justice. Yep. Do you know who I am? But it was fun. It was fun, exciting. The people that I worked with, they were cool. You know, it was, it was a good time, but I only did that for about two years. And then I finally got picked up with San Diego PD, so. Now, is your wife from the island? So where's she from? Yes, so she was born in California and then moved to Hawaii. She had been out there at the time. I don't know, maybe like 20. She had lived out there for like 20 years or something like that. So what did it take to get her to come back to California with you? You know, it wasn't much. She was actually ready to come back to California. She was, you know- Well, she thought California was expensive, right? Try Hawaii, right? Oh yes, absolutely. People always say, they're like, oh, you know, Hawaii is, or California is just as expensive as Hawaii. And I'm like, well, wait till you live there. Like, try living there and seeing how much milk is and how much groceries is. It's way more expensive than California. Because everything has to be flown or shipped in. I mean, there's everything. Everything is. Fruit or other stuff, it's like, it all has to be, you know, transported over. And man, so the cost of it just goes through the roof. So what, how old were you when you finally got on the PD? How old was I? I think I got hired at 29 and I think I didn't, you know, I finally, I was probably like 30 years old because I've been on the department now for seven years. So yeah, I was probably about 29, 30 years old when I got, finally got hired. Talk about persistence, man. You're not kidding. I knew that, I knew it was what I wanted to do. I knew law enforcement was a route that I wanted to go. I didn't want to, you know, although I liked it, I didn't want to do animal control. I didn't want to do corrections. So I wasn't going to work corrections. Well, by the time you got on the street though, you'd worked in the psych ward, you'd worked, you know, with juveniles, you'd worked animal control, you'd worked custody. So you'd kind of had a good feeling. I mean, you've kind of got some good experience going in. So how did it start out for you? You get into the academy, you probably got to be what, right in the middle of the age bracket or were you a little bit more towards the older? You know, that's a good question. I would say I was probably either right there in the middle or a little bit on the older side, but yeah, I don't even remember. I think I was probably right there in the middle. So when you got hired on, you remember how many people were in your class with you? That's a good question. I don't even remember, probably about 35, I would say. It's probably with San Diego PD because it's the San Diego County Regional Academy. So you have agencies from all over the County of San Diego that go to that academy. So I think we probably had about a good 30 San Diego PD recruits. And how long was your academy? Six months, six month police academy. So did you have to live on site? Go ahead. I'm sorry, you got it. The same question. So yes, it's not a living academy. So we went home at the end of the day and did it all over again the next day. So you go through this six months. Now, so you're kind of older, you've been through a lot of stuff. So during this academy, did your prior experience help you during the academy or did it not factor in? I still learned a ton, but I think for me it was easier for the role-playing, the scenarios and the role-playing. Especially when they want a crazy person who wants to fight, you're going, hey, I'm your huckleberry, right over here. I got your bra. Exactly. It was easier for me to, I felt it was, it came like- You need a 51-50? It's me, man. It's me. Yeah, it felt like it was a second nature just being able to just talk to people, contact people. For me, it just felt a little bit easier. I mean, again, I was still learning a ton in the academy and learning the police way to do things, but I think it was easier for me just being able to do the role-playing and contacting people, talking to people, starting conversations, all the stuff that we trained. So what was the hardest part of the academy for you? I think it was adjusting. So when I started the academy, I had just gotten married the year prior and that same year, just a few months before I started the academy, me and my wife had our first son and he was obviously just months old. So I think it was trying to navigate, still learning how to be a husband, trying to learn that role and then now being a brand new father and the stress that comes with being at the academy, studying, it just prioritizing. I guess prioritizing, starting to learn how to prioritize work, life and family. So I think that was the biggest struggle. It wasn't so much the academy, at least for me. So you go through six months, any funny stories we should know about that maybe we heard from Mel or some other folks that we've got in writing with us, one affidavit, Michael? I see a big grin coming on his face there. There's something here. There probably is, there probably is. What do you mean, there probably is? I don't remember any right now. I don't recall. Oh, there's a good one. I don't remember, officer. I don't recall. I'm sure there was. I'll tell you a funny story. When I was in phase training, once I got into phase training and you have an FTO and it's time for you to rock and roll. Field training officer in phase training, it's like, how many phases do you have? Like three or four? We have four. Yeah, so in San Diego PD, we have four phases. My first phase, I was a wreck. I didn't know which direction I was going. I mean, I didn't really understand it, but I was like, I don't even know how to drive anymore. When somebody's sitting next to you and you're reading the call, you're trying to find your sense of direction, you're trying to recognize what street you just passed because your FTO would be like, hey, pull over, what street did we just pass? I'm like, so I thought I wasn't gonna make it in one time. So the correct answer wasn't that one? No, that wasn't, yeah, that wasn't. So it was funny because my FTO, we're driving, there was a day when we were driving west and it was already, I don't know, maybe six, seven o'clock. The sun was already starting to go down and my FTO asked me, he said, hey, which direction does the sun rise? And I was like, well, it rises in the east. He's like, okay, good. Which direction does the sun set? Where does the sun set? I said, it sets in the west. And he's like, okay, good. And mind you now, we're driving westbound. The sun is literally in front of me, it's going down. And he goes, which direction are we traveling right now? And I think I said something like, we're traveling south. And he's like, no, no, no. And I remember going home that night and I was like, babe, I'm gonna have to look for another job because I don't think I'm gonna make it. So, but I did, I ended up making it. Little bit of stress there. Just a little, yeah, just a little. I'm wearing a red cape. What color is my red cape? I don't know, blue? That was the Fed question. I'm telling you, I was a mess. I was a mess on first phase. You actually learn from those things. So I can remember when I was a rookie, I was riding with a guy named Mike and you'd pull up in traffic and you finally get to drive, because they always wanted to drive. And I'd pull up in a red light behind traffic, just like you normally do in your personal car. And he's like, hey, rookie, okay, now if we get a code three call, how are you gonna get out? How are you gonna get around that car? Turn the lights and sirens on. He said, you can't physically get this car. You pulled up too damn close to the car. What's wrong with you? To this day, I still kind of stopped a little bit back. It's one of those lessons you never forget. I know I rode with you, Murph. You stopped not only back, you've got Orlando disease. You stop about a block and a half before the stop sign and you wait. I'm gonna get a sign that's hanging up, hold it up as I come by people, pull your freaking car up closer. That's right, get closer. It is. But you do survive your training, right? So how long is your phase training and what's the final phase? Is that where you're doing everything on your own and just under observation? Yes, so fourth phase, all my FTOs were actually great. And I don't just say that, just to say it, I think they were all awesome. But my fourth phase FTO, he was solid. I mean, he kind of let me, just like any FTO should do, right? He let me kind of make those mistakes and then recognize the mistake that I was doing while I was doing it and be able to correct it. And yeah, it was good. Four phases, finished up my fourth phase over at Northern Division. And then I was assigned to Southern Division. So I was, for San Diego PD, they give you, there's a wishlist, right? And it doesn't mean that you're gonna get that wishlist. They just, hey, give us your top three divisions that you would wanna work at. And they kind of figure out how, if they're gonna put you there or not. They try to accommodate where you live. So if you live up north, most likely they're probably not gonna send you all the way down to Southern Division, which is near Tijuana. But so they try to work with people for the most part. And my first choice was Southern Division because I grew up in South San Diego. Southern Division was South San Diego. It's basically where San Ysidro is at, right by the border. And that was my number one pick. And I got picked, I was given the opportunity to go work at Southern Division. So that's where I started my career. Do you speak Spanish? Yes, a little bit. It depends on what kind of call I got, then I don't understand. Not just joking, I'm just joking. No hablo, no hablo. That's like the people you pull over and you get them to sign here. No hablo, okay, you're coming to jail then. Oh, where do you want me to sign? I'll sign right now. You need a pen? I got a pen. I had some folks do that one time. I was out as a trooper writing them a tick and they're like, no hablo, let's not like this. Well, if you don't speak English, then why are your pants unzipped? And the kid in the guy's head, he looked down for a second. I said, there you go. How many sworn officers do y'all have in San Diego? You know, I think right now, I wanna say we have maybe 1,700. Wow. Sworn, I believe we have 1,700 sworn and we're just like every other agency in the nation probably right now. Understaffed, aren't you? We're understaffed probably by- How many should you have, you think? I think, I don't wanna say exactly, but I think we're like short, we're understaffed maybe by like three, 400. I think we're supposed to be at 2,100 maybe. I'm not too sure, but I think we're at 1,700 right now and I know that we're a few hundred short. And that means you're running call to call, right? You know, just- You know, our chief usually, he always says, one call at a time, do the best that you can do on that one call and then move on to the next call, right? Don't rush it. It's the quality of how we work, not how many calls we could get done in the shift. Hey players, that is the end of part one. Part two comes out as always on Tuesday. In the meantime, go check us out at Game of Crimes on Twitter, at Game of Crimes podcast on Facebook and the Instagram. Also go check out our website, gameofcrimespodcast.com. We've got a lot more information there, including our book list. Any book written by our guests will be listed there. In the meantime, go check us out also, patreon.com slash Game of Crimes. It's where we put a lot more content you won't hear on our regular podcast. We go into a lot more topics and folks, it is a lot of fun. So go check us out, patreon.com slash Game of Crimes. In the meantime, everybody stay safe. We'll see you tomorrow for part two. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go. Let's go.
"san diego police department" Discussed on Game of Crimes
"Well, you folks are definitely in for a treat. First of all, Murph, I know you wanted to give a shout-out to our buddy who helped us arrange this interview again. I do, there's a guy in San Diego named Mel. I won't say his last name because I don't want him to get pissed off at me, but Mel has made a ton of introductions as guests for our shows here and he's done the same thing. Today, I think in reality, it's probably Santi is the one that knows everybody and Mel just gets the credit. Mel's designed to be a fed then, okay, good. But very, very honored to have our special guest today on Michael Martinez with the San Diego Police Department. Woo-hoo! Oh, yeah. Thank you guys for having me on and yeah, big shout-out to Mel. He's a solid, solid guy. Thank you guys for, or thank him for connecting us all together. Love those guys out there, fantastic. Well, and you've got a great story too because we're gonna talk about this. You've been involved in four officer-involved shootings. You've been involved in more stuff within about four years than most people are involved in in an entire, some don't even go through it in a career. And so, and we're gonna talk about the things you went through, the recovery you went through, but before we can get into any of that, because you're coming to us from sunny San Diego, right, where anybody can be a weatherman because Ron Burgundy, you know, the legend, right? It's always 80 degrees and sunny in San Diego, but with you, Michael, we gotta ask, how did you get started, Colson Ostra, Thing of Ours, how did you get started in the Thing of Ours? Were you just like a ute hanging around the Gaslamp District, you know, stealing beer? What was going on? What was your first foray into the law? How did you get started in this Thing of Ours we call law enforcement? You know, I wasn't far from that description that you just mentioned. I wasn't the best kid growing up. I grew up in South San Diego and I wasn't that good of a student in middle school and high school, got in trouble a lot. And I got into a bunch of fights in high school and my parents ended up taking me out of public school and they put me in private school. So I always credit them for, you know, they obviously saw more in me than what I saw in myself. What were you getting into fights over? You know, just ego. That's a very long story short, you know, now looking back at it, it was just all ego. It was just all ego. But I went to private school and ended up graduating from high school. And when I was in high school, the counselor, she came to me and she said, hey, you know, your overall grades, they're good enough to get you into a four-year university. And I, you know, I said, what's a four-year university? I was ignorant, I didn't really know much. My goal, my plan was just to get a job and just, you know, hang out here in San Diego, maybe go to a two-year university or something like that, or two-year community college. And that was my goal. But she kind of talked me into, you know, she's like, hey, take this book, you know, this little magazine home. It had all the private Catholic universities in the US. And she's like, take a look at it, circle some that you may want to apply to and I'll help you apply. So obviously I'm a San Diego boy. I don't like the cold weather. And I, you know, like you said, 80 degrees, right? That's every day. You know, if it gets below 79, then I'm, you know, I'm throwing on a jacket and a hoodie and, you know, sweatpants and trying to stay warm. The struggle is real in San Diego. The struggle is real, yeah, exactly, exactly. That sounds like the people here in Orlando, man. If it drops down to like 65, they got on parkas and gloves and scarves. When I was a trooper out there working all by myself, covering six counties, it would be blowing 25, 30 miles an hour. The temperature would be 10, you know, five degrees. And I'd be out there with just a long sleeve shirt, pair of gloves and a campaign hat. We were tough back then. Yeah, we knew. They didn't hire you because you're a real smart Morgan. We know that. I wouldn't have survived that weather. I'll tell you that. It's a good thing you stayed in San Diego. Now, with all your little times you had in high school, were you ever arrested by the police for your fighting or was that all handled just in school? You know, it was handled in school. There was a couple of contacts I had with police. I never got arrested or anything like that, but that was as far as it went. I never, you know, I never went to juvenile hall or, you know, usually my parents pick me up. So that was my extent and my experience with law enforcement. And it wasn't in the most positive light. Well, talk about your, so you're looking at universities, Catholic universities, right, so what is it you felt like you wanted to study? If you're going to go to college for four years, what interested you at that point? So at that point, my goal was to work with at-risk teens. And so I was thinking, you know, maybe I'll be a psychologist or a therapist and work with at-risk teens. So, you know, when the counselor gave me that book, you know, I looked through it and I was like, well, I'm not going to the East Coast because I don't want to work anywhere or live anywhere where it's, you know, 50 below, you know, 50 or zero. I'm a tough guy, but if it gets below 80, I'm not so tough. Yeah, I'm not so tough. Yeah, so I circled at the very last page, it was Alaska and Hawaii. And of course, you know, you don't have to think too hard as to what option I chose. It was Hawaii, so I went to Chaminade University. Oh yeah, great basketball team they had there too. Yep, yeah, yeah. And so I ended up attending Chaminade University. The counselor really, she really hooked me up and, you know, helped me fill out all the paperwork and, you know, talk my parents through all the FAFSA and all the other, you know, paperwork that's involved. And yeah, she got the ball rolling. And I think the most important thing was I had to get out of California. Just the route that I was going, the direction that I was going as a teenager, it wasn't in the, you know, nothing positive was gonna come out of me staying in San Diego or me staying in California. Was there, talk to us about growing up though, your high school, why'd you want to work with at-risk youth? I mean, what was it about it growing up? I mean, was there like, in your high school, did you have issues with gangs or other types of things that you were concerned about? Yeah, you know, there was gang activity. You know, I have family members that are in the mix with all that stuff too, or they were, you know, many of them have already passed away. But I've always been around that type of environment. When I was in high school, I was around that environment. And at the time I just felt that, you know, there's an opportunity for me to help kids like myself, you know, kids that, you know, lived in low-income homes, maybe lived with one or two parents, or, you know, lived with their grandparents or stuff like that. That's what a lot of my friends were, they low-income community, and some of them didn't live with their parents at all. They lived, you know, they were raised by their aunts or grandparents. So that was my goal. I was like, you know, I'm going to, if I go to college and I'm going to get a degree, I'll get a degree in psychology and I'll work with at-risk youth. How did you avoid getting caught up in the gang scene out there? You know, I knew that that wasn't the exact path that I wanted to take. Luckily, I had family members who were in the mix and they were a lot older than me, my cousins and uncles. And they always told me to, even though I was able to hang out with them and, you know, hang around them and stuff, they always kept me away from making that one, you know, decision to go ahead and join. So they kind of kept me out of it for the most part. So you go from starting fights to wanting to stopping fights and keeping kids out of fights, right? So was that because of what you saw? I mean, it's kind of, I mean, that seems like a big extreme. It's like you deciding one day, hey, I love San Diego. Like you said, now I'm going to move to Alaska, right? So that's kind of a big extreme going from being involved in a lot of that to saying, hey, I want to work with these kids. What flipped the switch for you? Where did that happen at? Was it an event? Did you see some things happen? You know, have some friends get caught up in some pretty bad stuff. What caused you to flip that switch to go, yeah, I'm tired of starting fights. You know, I want to be on the other side of this now. You know, I think it was, I knew that that wasn't the direction that I wanted my life to go. And I knew that if I was going to go to Hawaii and I was going to move away from home, I had to make the best, you know, out of that experience, right? I had to take advantage of everything that experience or that opportunity had to offer. So I think it was just more so of, hey, if I'm going to move from San Diego to Hawaii and I'm going to be there for, you know, four or five years getting a degree, what am I going to do with that opportunity? Obviously I'm not going to waste it. So I think that's kind of where that switch, you know, happened. It was that opportunity of me being able to leave California and make a, start a new life, basically.
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"Cordell cordell .com for more information about contests this on station go to kogo .com slash rules this is the weekend news hour on news radio 600 i'm jack cronin 22 year old suspect was arrested for steal helping more than two hundred thousand dollars from a 65 year old woman in san diego who had other health problems during an elder abuse scam district attorney summer stephen says suspects have stolen more than 120 million dollars in san diego county the last two years last year alone from 1800 people scammers older telling people their computers or bank accounts are frozen they're asking for gift cards cryptocurrency in this case cash a courier from the los angeles area was arrested for picking up the money from the woman in san diego trying to it deliver to an international group that immediately take the money out of the country da summer stephen we announced charges against a scammer that had worked in a part of the syndicate was acting as a courier and built an elderly woman out of her life savings two hundred thousand dollars the elder justice task force san diego district attorney's office the fbi san diego police department worked together to set up an undercover operation where the victim a 65 year old woman with health issues was pretending to make another delivery to this courier and were able to capture him at this time the investigation continues to help us connect the dots in order to get to the rest of the syndicate that is been in proliferating in san diego unfortunately there are two types of elder scams that are the most popular if you will right now and they are causing our seniors so much pain one of them is the tech support scam where they pretend that your computer is locked and for you to unlock it you need to spend some money to unlock the computer and then followed right after that with a banking scam where they say whoever locked your computer has your banking information and there's been fraud perpetrated so we out and give it to the carrier for safekeeping pretending the courier is part of the banking industry the gal came to San Diego many of these couriers are coming from the LA area and they are clearly working with a higher syndicate that knows the money to transnational criminal organizations across several countries in San Diego County we have tracked this activity and in 1992 we have reports of 1800 victims of senior fraud at the tune of 49 million dollars this year that number is already closer to the mid 70 million dollar mark so it's already on the increase we wanted to use this case to send an alert because once a fraud has occurred the money quickly leaves our country and the alert is in order to make sure that we can prevent the scam so what we want people and their families out there to know is that no legitimate government entity company bank will ask you to take out cash and provide it to a courier that will not happen if someone asks you to do that it is a scam if someone asks you to convert your money into a gift card that's a scam if they ask you to convert your money into cryptocurrency that's a scam so all of these things are what are costing our seniors millions of their hard -earned savings we're working around the clock with the FBI with our police departments and with the first of its kind Elder Justice Task Force to strike back and we want this case to also be a warning we that are not going to tolerate this in San Diego and that we're going keep working very hard to find the syndicates and to find the couriers are coming into San Diego San Diego County District Attorney Summer Stephan announcing the arrest of a 22 year old suspect who served as a courier as part of a larger operation to steal more than a hundred and twenty million dollars from people in San Diego County and elder abuse scams in just the last two years in the mid seventy million dollar range for 2023 alone Jack Cronin Coco news Coco real -time traffic
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"Is taking precautionary steps to allow time to learn more about the variant found in South Africa You don't want people to panic but you want to know that we're doing everything we can to stay ahead of this Starting Monday the Biden administration is closing America's borders to travelers from 8 African nations A government funding deadline is waiting for Congress when they return to work next week the U.S. government runs out of money December 3rd another short term funding extension could happen as Democrats try to get something passed in the House and Senate One person is dead after a shooting at the Marine Corps recruit depot in San Diego the San Diego police department says gunfire was reported near the depot's entrance off Pacific highway shortly before noon Friday the base released a statement saying a vehicle attempted to enter the facility And when the driver was ordered to stop he got out with a knife I'm Brad sequel And I'm Susanna Palmer in the Bloomberg newsroom As we've been reporting targeted COVID testing in the United Kingdom has just been announced and more African countries faced travel restrictions in the UK Health secretary Sajid javid announced expanded safety measures confirming the UK's first two cases of the omicron variant of the coronavirus have been found in chelmsford and Nottingham It says will remind us all that this pandemic is far from over and if there's one thing that everyone can be doing right now is if they're eligible please take care vaccine What is your first shot your second shot or your booster job If you're eligible please take your vaccine Governor Kathy hogel declared a state of emergency on Friday due to a rise in COVID-19 cases in New York and the threat of the variant She said the variant hasn't yet been detected in the state but that she decided to sign an executive order to allow the health department to limit non-essential non urgent procedures at hospitals and acquire critical supplies more quickly The order takes effect December 3rd The prospect of the freshly named omicron variant of the virus saw an early morning selloff become a full blown crash for oil on worries over demand destruction oil fell 13% Friday to 68 15 a barrel Airline shares tumbled Friday the most since the early days of the COVID-19 pandemic after European countries banned flights from South Africa to slow the spread of the variant More on that from Bloomberg's Charlie pellet The UK is halting arrivals from South Africa and several neighboring countries in the U.S. travel related stocks from Marriott to united and cruise operator carnival all plunged the border clamped down signal on new level of risk for tourism dependent companies whose recovery was already stalled this month by a fourth wave of coronavirus cases in Europe Charlie pellet Bloomberg radio Global news 24 hours a day on air and on Bloomberg quick take powered by more than 2700 journalists and analysts in more than 120 countries I'm Susanna Palmer This is Bloomberg You're listening to Bloomberg business of sports from Bloomberg radio Thanks for joining.
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"Alright right now In Ramona, It's 56 Carlsbad, 63. Downtown. Cloudy and 68 Kogo news time 6 32 time for the opening bell on Wall Street with Gina survey at Bloomberg. Happy Monday, Gina Happy Monday. 10 belladonna and stocks look pretty happy So far. Today the Dow is already up 236 to start the week S and P 532 and the NASDAQ up 94 points so far. Energy related shares have been hired today as crude oil prices climb. Retail sales are expected to climb and hit a record high this holiday season. MasterCard see sales up 7.4% from last year and about 11% from the previous e commerce sales are expected to surge 57%. From 2019. I'm Gina Servitia Bloomberg for NewsRadio. 600. Kogo. Thanks, Gina. It's 6 32 and a Grossmont high school student who was in a coma after a serious car accident has died. 16 year old Giovanni Roman died Friday from injuries he sustained in an August 21st car crash. The teen's mother confirmed his death to reporting partner 10 News. The driver of that vehicle was pronounced dead at the scene and the passengers were taken to the hospital with serious injuries. The crash left Roma John in a coma with a broken pelvis, backbone and ribs, among other complications. A go fund me page has been set up to help the family with funeral expenses. Eddie McLovin KOGO News this morning. Authorities continue to look for a suspect after a man was shot. That man was fighting for his life when he was seriously wounded in Grantsville. Police say the shooting happened early Sunday morning in the 5800 block of Mission Gorge Road outside of a bar. A woman has died after a crash on the five near Balboa Avenue. It happened about 4 20 in the morning on the northbound five Sunday. The driver was said to be out of the vehicle, but unconscious. CHP didn't offer any other information. The incident under investigation. Roughly nine out of 10. Members of the San Diego Police Officers Association, who responded to a recent survey oppose Covid 19 vaccination mandates and about 45% of them say they would rather be fired than comply with such requirements of the 733 officers who took part in the poll about 38% of all the personnel represented by the union, some 65% said that they would consider resigning from the job if the city follows through with the plan to require coronavirus vaccinations. Getting in November. A spokesperson for the San Diego Police Department declined to comment on the results of the survey. Just two days left of vote in the California recall election in San Diego County. Every registered voter has received a ballot in the mail and the deadline to return them is tomorrow. Ballots sent back to the Postal Service must be postmarked by tomorrow. We're about maybe return to any of 131 drop off locations throughout the county by tomorrow night. In person. 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"Good on them. i suppose. Let's great right after a couple of twelve million dollars just goes out the door. I just feel like my credit card. Company cuts me off. If i spend too much money like out a state like power. They're not like obvious. Like red flag. You know like algorithms built into these massive financial. Let me same with iheart like for example we have corporate cars that we have to use sometimes and we were just at a conference and i had to pay for a bunch of hotel rooms for other people. I got a red flag email from our finance department. I think it was auto generated and then it was forwarded to me by an actual human making sure that these charges were legit and i said yes. They're legit but it was me the potential fraudster. That was saying yes. These charges are legit for reasons. So suppose if that same thing happened with our guy here it could have been a similar situation but just all of these just seem so suspicious every single one. Some weird stuff and i'm and we're not even going into all the details here but i'm going to read you this last thing which is so. Where did this money come from. He's working for a nonprofit associated with the university of south florida. They seem to be involved at least from my understanding with staffing so staffing. A lot of the organizations needs a medical really big medical schools. There it says according to article the stolen money quote came from the funds generated by patient care and sway for no state philanthropic grant or research money was impacted. So you know just the money that patients were going in for procedures and for healthcare. That's all there was stolen. But i guess from the company's standpoint that means that's basically their prophets. It's not the you know the money they were holding for any other major reason for can wild really weird stuff. What's stuff they don't want you to know. Well there are a lot of people who are somewhat connected to the financial processes of companies across the world and it makes me wonder how much of this stuff is happening on. What kind of scale right is it really. Tiny stuff are we are rethinking office space level here or are we thinking what the office space guys did accidentally right install millions and millions of dollars. It would be really cool to know if you've ever heard of anything like this if you've got an interesting account of something like this occurring or maybe even historical example we would love to hear from you. Yes and we'd also love to hear from you about your thoughts on the treatment of sentinel and sentinel analogs and of you know whether you think Doing these kind of stunts well-intentioned or not that. The san diego police department did Is a good idea or what. Please write to us. You can find us online at all. The usual social media spots of note. Yes you can find us on twitter and facebook. We are conspiracy stuff also on youtube conspiracy stuff on instagram. Where conspiracy stuff show. Oh hey and by the way if you know anything about hermit crabs and other crustaceans and the whole thing with oceanic plastic waste. The ben was talking about. We definitely want to hear from you too. So don't forget that part please. If you don't want to find us on social media and you don't like the stuff we do have a.
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"Far as Las Vegas and Modesto. The women learned about different opportunities in the department, and we're able to do some training exercises with officers. Female officers make up 17% of the San Diego Police Department, the highest percentage in the nation, but Apartment wants to include more women as it seeks to further diversify the force. Eddie McLovin Kogo News, the San Diego based USS Abraham Lincoln said to deploy in the coming months, and when it does, the new commanding officer will be in charge. For the first time ever. A woman will head up a nuclear powered aircraft carrier captain Amy Bauer and Schmidt previously served as the Lincolns executive officer, which was another first for a woman. From 2016 to 2019, she says there is no more humbling sense of responsibility than to know you are interested with the care of people who have chosen to protect our nation. The ship set to deploy in the coming months with the Marine F 35 Squadron, all under Bauer in Smith's Watch. Phil Farrar, KOGO News vice president Kamala Harris, telling reporters that analyzing what happened in Afghanistan will come after evacuations are complete. We cannot be In any way. Um, they did distracted in any way from what must be our primary mission right now, which is evacuating people. From that region who who deserve to be evacuated. The vice president took questions Monday in Singapore. Appearing alongside the prime minister currently visiting Southeast Asia. Harris plans to meet US service members stationed in the region and later in the week when she visits Vietnam. August recess is interrupted this week by the U. S House. The House returns later today to begin setting up debate and votes on three bills all connected the President Biden's agenda. Over the next couple of days. Democratic leaders want to advance a $3.5 trillion budget reconciliation, a $1 trillion bipartisan infrastructure measure in new voting rights legislation. House Speaker Nancy Pelosi is facing some opposition internally, however, with a group of moderate Democrats threatening to hold support from the reconciliation package without a final approval vote on the infrastructure bill. Jared Halpern. Fox News Elliot pages thanking the nineties comedy, but I'm a cheerleader for offering him relief for some of his struggles as a younger LGBT Q person, Page says he isn't sure he would have been able to make it through moments of isolation, loneliness, shame and self hatred when he was younger, without the various representation he was able to find on film or TV. Page made those comments while receiving the out Fest Achievement Award on Sunday. The comedy released in 1999 is about a high schooler who sent to a conversion program where her parents suspected her of being gay. The Oscar nominated actor says the lack of representation that continues today is infuriating. No me. I want to the Academy of Country Music is bringing back its annual party for a cause. The charity event was called off last year due to the pandemic. This year. It will take place at Nashville's Ascend Amphitheater August 24th ahead of the HHonors. Ceremony. Why.
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We'll find hidden spots and hear stories from the people who live there like lindsey mcnamara pull show us world class bird-watching in new jersey radio search for about the journey in your podcast app. That's about the journey and we're back with more strange news potentially Another whiff by the biden administration This one a little lower profile but the ramifications could be equally as as distressing as is. What's happening over there in afghanistan probably seen a lot in the news lately or at least on social media More so on social media was even in the news that sentinel the phthalic opioid Has really been wreaking havoc on people causing tens of thousands of overdose deaths a year in your local communities local scenes or whatever you may have started to see people posting screen shots or image macro zor. Whatever talking about a street drugs being laced with fence inal which as we know. We've talked about it before. Especially in our big pharma episode and about purdue pharma particular how little sentinel it takes to cause a deadly overdose either images online where you can see a penny and then you can see some crumbs offensive on next to it and it's literally like one or two milligrams can cause you to absolutely drop dead. And it has a lot to do with wh- what type of fenland is because there are so many different cousins like chemical cousin. Thank you. That's a big part of what today's story about as well. It's sort of a two tiered story. but again with those you know shares that you might be feeling instagram about. It's about looking out for your friends. If you know any ad x unit users. I mean plenty of people. Do you don't have to be an addict to be a drug user but cocaine. mda things like that. There is or has been a lot of concern about the street drugs. That are laced with this. Potentially deadly substance that can cause an instant overdose. If just by and stuff leading a believe is the word for snorting or injecting just a few grains not grams mind you grains and so there's a lot of information or called action making sure you get this Overdose deterrent called narcan Which is like a little inhaler and you can literally save someone's life it's apparently very very very powerful And relatively easy to get you can get them. If pharmacies there are places that are passing out for free and teaching classes on how to use them. So it's a lot of the stuff that i've been seeing is about like being prepared and watching out for your friends and maybe carrying one of these around with you but the story for today is about a bit of a pr. Let's say misstep the san diego police department because yes while we know. This substance is very very dangerous it is still possible to fear monger about it in ways that could actually do more damage than create positive outcomes. And this is. I think what is happening with this story out of san diego. Essentially the san diego police department did. Was they released video. Which essentially it. It almost looks like you're watching a news package. You've got standups from these different officers body cam footage of young officer handling something evidence of some kind during a traffic stop in in a trunk and then all of a sudden passing out just like literally keeling over on his back. Then you have this very heroic footage of the body cam. The perspective shot of his partner. Unpacking one of these narcan inhalers from the blister pack. And then administering it to you buddy Then he's loaded onto a gurney and it's almost literally one of those like sitting up with two thumbs up. It's like thanks for saving me pal. and then it's got stand up. You know like talking heads of the officer his partner. And i believe what other representative of the san diego police department but the officer unequivocally says i overdosed and his partners saying in his eyes road in the back of his head he was clearly overdosing all the way to the hospital and they released this and the news ran as facts like the local news. There's several examples of this being picked up and just run as fact because amidst this kind of you know climate of fear that i'm talking about a very real fear that should be real around this substance. It was the kind of thing where course. You're not question that you're gonna you're gonna run it you're going to be. Oh my god it can you can you can kill you just by touching it by looking at it you know. And so then we have some folks in the medical community coming out and saying well actually. This isn't true at all you cannot overdose simply by touching the substance. It's just not biologically possible is what the experts are saying. So let's let's go to the experts real quick before we do that. I just wanted to say this is really surprising to me. And i think i fell victim to some of the stories coming out about sentinel and officers coming into contact with it not this particular one but in the past other stories about an officer encountering fencing on getting it on them and then needing narcan just in case and i think even talked about it before is that i think we did two mile. And here's the thing. They never released any toxicology that the young man didn't die. The dude didn't die but they never actually confirmed that it was an overdose with the hospital. And the sheriff of the san diego police department admitted that he himself not a doctor is the one who put this out to the public that it was an overdose and again this video really is what you would call a public service announcement type video. Almost like a yeah. It's meant to educate but unfortunately it's just laced no pun intended with with misinformation and these experts. They were talking about One of which is someone named gretchen. Bergman is the executive director and co founder of a new path. A new path is meant to slow. Reduce the stigma associated with drug abuse in disorders to treat it more like a psychological condition that needs to be treated therapeutically rather than having people locked up and she said it just didn't feel right it didn't sound right. He had gloves on but even if he had gotten on his skin he would have had to take his hand to his mouth. Or nose. it doesn't seep into your pores and this is backed up by numerous other Medical professionals in various sources that we read that. I read for this. And you know it's just interesting because the idea of stigmatizing drug users is something that's always kinda gone hand in hand with like the quote unquote war on drugs and you know the idea of mandatory minimums and treating drug users as criminals rather than people that are in need of counseling or mental health issues right or are suffering from mental health issues. And that's something that biden as part of his campaign was very much about you. Know he's got a son that famously.
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"I had an interpersonal dialogue with myself, Don't die essence. It was really that simple and that's what you have to you have to police yourself. In an emailed statement, a U C. San Diego spokesperson said the UC system has been working with stakeholders, including students to create the presidential campus Safety plan. Which will quote transform uses culture policies and practices to achieve a vision of safety, in which all members of the community feel further welcomed, respected and protected. The current U. C. San Diego Police Department budget is $13.9 million students and faculty working to get police off campus say campus safety can still be achieved if the department is eliminated, and those funds are redistributed for the California report. I'm Christina Kim in San Diego. The union representing teachers in the L. A unified school district has reached a tentative deal for a return to traditional in person instruction this fall. The proposed deal between United Teachers Los Angeles and the district calls for continued covid 19 testing. At least every two weeks. Students and teachers would also be required to wear masks. Regardless of whether they're vaccinated. There would be some exceptions for students with disabilities. The deal must be voted on by the unions, Full membership and the L. A unified Board of Education. Well. On Tuesday, California reopens for business as usual and part of that is ditching the state's mask a mandate, the state will align the CDC's most recent mass guidelines, which means fully vax. Folks can remove masks pretty much everywhere, with some exceptions. But not everyone might be rushing to scrap. There's here to tell us more is Carly, seven. She is KQED senior engagement editor and Carly starting Tuesday. We're can fully vax people ditch their masks, so pretty much everywhere. This is actually California aligning with the CDC's guidance that was actually released back in May, the state waited a month to adopt it. So from Tuesday onwards, the only places that vaccinated Californians are going to be required to wear masks are on or around public transit. So that's you know, Bart in the Bay Area, ferries, airplanes, airports and also indoors in K 12 schools and childcare settings. In health care settings, homeless shelters, emergency shelters and cooling Sanchez. There's also quite a few rules being worked out about workplaces, which might well require employees to still mask up. And of course, some businesses like stores can keep mask rules for customers everywhere else. If you're vaccinated, you don't need a mask. Wow, it's really just wild to even imagine that So Everyone who is vaccinated will be rushing to ditch their masks on Tuesday. AM I right? Well, not necessarily. The state adopted the previous CDC guidance on people not needing masks outside in most situations, regardless of the vaccination status. But in many places around the state, you still see many folks wearing masks on the street, right? We actually asked KQED social media audiences whether they were going to keep wearing their mask after Tuesday, even though they're vaccinated, and a lot of people said yes, and the reasons they gave watching really interesting somewhere about medical health concerns and others were Kind of more social considerations. Yeah, I will say that now that people are traveling more we have had family come in from other parts of the country, and they're really surprised at how many people are still wearing masks here in the Bay Area. What were some of the medical concerns that went into some of this decision making So a big reason that our social media audiences were telling us was this concern that kids under 12 can't actually get the vaccine yet, and, you know, it's really natural that parents and caregivers would be wondering about this one. I actually checked him with Dr Peter Chin Hong, who's a professor of medicine and infectious disease at UCSF, and he said that, while Yep, this is really understandable. And yes, there have been instances of kids being affected. The general risk level for kids is lower than it is for adults. But if adults in the family want to keep masking, too, like a model mask wearing for their kids, that is not a bad thing at all, and other folks told KQED that you know they had immuno compromised people in their life. Or they still wanted to mask because of concern for those who haven't been able to access vaccines yet. Again all quite natural things to come into people's minds..
"san diego police department" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"Bloomberg for news radio. 600 Kogo. Thanks Gina. President Biden spoke in Tulsa, Oklahoma Tuesday to commemorate the 1/100 anniversary of the Tulsa Race massacre. The president announcing his new initiatives to close the racial wealth gap, My administration's launched an aggressive effort to combat racial discrimination in housing. That includes everything from redlining. The cruel fact that a home owned by a black family is too often appraised at lower value to the similar homes on by the waist. That massacre happened back in 1921. When white supremacist mob attacked the black part of the city burning and looting businesses and homes. The mob killed roughly 300 people and left about 10,000 black people homeless. They are expected to reopen plants today. But the White House says it's engaging directly with the Russian government. After JBs, one of the largest meat processors in the world was hacked. It's a ransomware attack. We don't know how much money the Attackers are demanding, but this has resulted In about half a dozen U. S facilities be shut down Other shut down in Australia and Canada reporter Tom Costello says. The latest hat comes less than four weeks after Russian criminals launched a similar attack against Colonial pipeline a major U. S. Fuel supplier San Diego Police Department updating the way it interacts with members of the transgender community and you go. Police officer Cristian Garcia says The new guidance will help STP t understand and respect those they come in contact with well got to the office. What the definitions are for the trans gender, non binary community. How does a lot of police report searches and pat down for the transgender community kind of book somebody who's transgender and non binary. It also talks about not using the identification of the person as an ultimate decision of the person's gender that we actually will use their preferred gender and preferred name additional referring to people by that preferred name and pronoun officers will document and book members of the transgender community according to their gender identity. Allow them to choose the gender of the officers searching them. Jack Runako News Ah bill to prohibit law enforcement from using tear gas, chemical agents and projectiles to disperse a peaceful assembly has passed in the assembly. The bill by San Diego was suddenly woman, Llorente. Gonzales requires officers to be trained on the safe use of kinetic projectiles and chemical agents. Situations were any person's life is threatened or if they are at risk of serious injury and those instances, officers would be required to issue verbal warnings and use other de escalation tactics first and may not aim at the head, neck or other vital organs. A B 48 also requires law enforcement agencies to report any use of projectiles and chemical agents that resulted in injury to the state Department of Justice. The bill now goes to the state Senate. Maryland HAIDER KOGO NEWS, California Voters will soon decide on the issue of sports betting a proposition would allow betting on sports games and Indian casinos and it horse racing tracks. But guess gambling analyst Chris Grove tells reporting partner 10 News Online SPORTS Betting is not being considered sports betting is on the whole and incredibly contentious issue. Once you add online gambling of any kind to the mix, it becomes an issue that is potentially unsolvable. L went on to say without the approval of online sports, betting the state may not take in as much revenue. The issue will be on the ballot in November of next year, New study finds the worldwide number of smokers has hit a record high. The study, published last week in The Lancet says smoking killed almost eight million people in 2019 and The authors of the report say efforts to curb smoking have been outstripped by population growth. It says government should focus on discouraging young people from taking up smoking, finding that 89% of new smokers were addicted by age 25. But after that age, they were unlikely to start the habit, The report says. Just 10 countries make up two thirds of the world's smoking population. With the top five being China, India, Indonesia, the U. S and Russia Amazon is getting behind legislation to legalize marijuana at the federal level. In a statement, the e commerce giant said they will also stop screening. Some workers for the drug company helps other employers will join them in support, and policymakers will act swiftly to pass this law, it says. Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment. An Expungement act was reintroduced in the house last month and only does it de criminalize the drug. 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"san diego police department" Discussed on KFI AM 640
"Which that's a number you never get in any kind of fall for anything. Well, look, and that's right. And remember what a governor Newsome say he was going to appoint himself is the homeless lock. Remember that you're gonna have to go well utter failure, gentlemen, and the fact that he's afraid to actually tackle this issue head on. You can't be and all the changes in the approach that we took in San Diego made a huge difference. Why? Because we care about folks enough not to let you live in a tent and die in our sidewalks. And I think when you see 10 and captain best, exactly what's going to happen if you allow that to continue? What did you do? Because here in L, a county all the public officials claim we can't do this. We can't do that. We can't do this. We won't do that. So what did you do that at least produced it somewhat. You can and it's it's about leadership, and we could probably take, you know an hour on this topic, but I'll be of the American sites. The old approaches one working. I set up a serious of shelters in San Diego. I take the locations myself, and I made a deal with the community. I said it's going to be cleaner and safer with this shelter, then before it was there. And I felt so strongly about it that I created a new division within the San Diego Police Department called the Neighborhood policing division whose sole focus was on quality of life and homelessness. And again, I did not allow tent encampments on our sidewalk. That made a huge difference. And that approach when folks saw the difference that was happening, the fact that people were getting help. Not just for a night or for a week, but we were transitioning after that place of their own. I enforced the law. I think that is what's been missing through so many cities throughout California. Mm hmm. One of one of the issues which doesn't seem to get enough attention. Can I spend a lot of time on it? Is the tens of billions of dollars that went out the door. With this corrupt, incompetent unemployment office disaster. I mean tens of billions of dollars, and it just doesn't seem like the media's interested. Where all that money went, We know went to all the criminals, but I mean, I mean, I mean, you would think there'd be a 25 parts series on the front page of all the newspapers explaining how California blue tens of billions of dollars and it all goes back to the governor's desk. Of course it does. And it's actually $30 billion, right? I mean, and that's this year alone. And what do we see? Gentlemen, time and time again? The only solution that the folks in san exactly they'll offer is send us more money, right? Every solution to every problem is we want to raise taxes. We want to do new regulations and yet They let allow $30 billion worth of fraud to go out the doors, the criminals. They never looked on the expense side. They never look about making the reforms and the changes and look, I've been pretty outspoken that one party rule has been a disaster in California for the last decade. It is time for a competition of ideas. It's time for somebody who actually has the Experience and making some of the tough calls and the changes that can roll up their sleeves and get us back on the right track. You know, I would say what one other issue that feels so strongly about is the issue. The fact that our public schools are still Will not fully reopened. It is shameful and the fact that we're the last state to open this up and I say that's not just a candidate for governor. But I say this is a dead with two kids in public schools. The fact that our private schools have been open for months and months because those schools report to Paris Yet our public schools, which ultimately report to gather Newsome are still Close is an absolute abomination. We have to change that. Kevin Faulk there. Thanks for coming on again. I'm sure we'll be speaking to you more in the coming months. Looking forward to it. Thank you, darling. All right. Former San Diego Mayor Kevin Faulkner, A candidate in the recall of Gavin Newsom more coming up, Johnny can k f I Debra Mark, as did two.
"san diego police department" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"Her cocoa dear side, 5 30 to the White House says or I'm sorry. The House has passed a measure urging vice President Pence to invoke the 25th amendment to remove President Trump from office. But Pence says he is not going to do that. Jill NATO has the latest. The move comes after last week's Capitol Hill riot. Speaker Nancy Pelosi. The president called for this seditious attack on the GOP side opposing the move Congressman Greg Steuby of Florida This is dangerous, unconstitutional and does nothing to heal this country and move this country forward. The vice president said. He won't remove the president from office. Next up. The Democrats try to impeach President Trump. And we will have coverage throughout the day. Right here on Kogo. Speaking of Republican U. S representative Jaime Herrera, Buechler says she will vote. I guess that's Jamie then will vote in favor of impeaching President Trump. The Washington State lawmaker announced her support for impeachment last night, becoming the fifth Geo House member to do so. Meantime, the president is criticizing his supporters who stormed the capital last week. As I have consistently said throughout my administration, we believe in Respecting America's history and traditions, not tearing them down. Trump told reporters in South Texas during his visit to the border wall that his administration is about supporting law and order and the halls of government. He also called on people to respect law enforcement and to be peaceful. There are no threats to San Diego leading up to the inauguration. But Sheriff Bill Gore says local law enforcement will be ready just in case, the sheriff says. What happened in La Mesa back in May won't happen this week with law enforcement ready even without any large scale events planned. We have no specific information of anything tied to the inauguration on the 20th. I think it's reasonable expected One of the groups that we've seen protesting on a weekly basis here in San Eagles will probably be out this weekend and review the days leading up to the inauguration. But we've interacted with those groups and by and large, they stayed relatively peaceful. We saw last week and Pacific Beach when that wasn't the case in San Diego Police Department handle that. I think an exemplary fashion sheriff saying the reports are of large protests in D C and in state capitals that something does happen in San Diego. Won't tolerate destruction of property or violence from either political side. Jack Cronin. Google News. The family of a missing Chila Vista mother is gathering this morning to search for her Maya. Millette has been missing since last week. Her husband, Larry says they were having problems and she's left before. But he said he got really worried when she missed her daughter's birthday. Know that, you know she missed our daughter's birthday..
"san diego police department" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"Riots in Portland and Seattle and various other other places. That was a real problem. The president called the impeachment effort by the House a continuation of the greatest witch hunt in politics. President. Trump's remarks came after House Minority leader Kevin McCarthy told Republicans the president did accept some responsibility for the capital riot. It's Rachel Soul in all four Democrats in San Diego's congressional delegation say they will vote to impeach President Trump ahead of the possible action tomorrow in the House. Mike Levin, Sarah Jacobs, Juan Vargas will vote for impeachment along with Scott Peters, who said earlier in the week he was hesitant. Take action against the president, The lone Republican member of Congress and San Diego. Darryl Isis says he will vote against impeachment calling a second attempt to impeach the president, gratuitous and unnecessary asking for unity over conflict. As for protests here, Sadie Go, Sheriff Bill Gore says that local law enforcement is ready for anything over the next week in if there are no large specific protests plan. For San Diego. Well, I would think after the riot if you want to call that we saw in Washington, D C last week and I would hope that we wouldn't see any similar type activity in San Diego. We haven't really in in the past. What law enforcement in San Diego County animal speak for everybody, but we're pretty much on the same sheet of music is that we respect everybody's First Amendment rights and within their their right to go out and protest. But when those protests turned violent, and there's you know our destruction of property law enforcement's not going to tolerate that. So we try to when we hear either through social media or wherever they might be advertised some type of protests or demonstrations. We try to make contact with the organizer's find out their numbers so we can be prepared to keep them safe. And that's pretty universally done throughout San Diego County. We work closely with our partners, the federal, state and local level to get the best intelligence we can so we can be prepared for these demonstrations we saw back in May 30th in La Mesa. What happened when basically, law enforcement was overwhelmed. We don't want that to happen again. We want to have enough resource is so everybody stays safe and what we found Probably in the last several months is that we have demonstrators from both sides of the issue come out whether they be the far right to the far left and law enforcement's role has been to try to Keep them both safety with him. Both express their viewpoints but not interact in a violent fashion. And to do that we have to have good intelligence have the right numbers of people both law enforcement there and have a good estimate of the number of demonstrators. It's kind of an old adage both we hope for the best, and we plan for the worst right now. We have no specific intelligence here in San Diego County of any Activity around the inauguration, although I think we could be reasonable. Expect some type of demonstrations that we've seen kind of on a weekly basis around San Diego. But as you can see, the national focuses on state capitals and the inauguration in Washington, D. C. So we think we're prepared here in San Diego, and we just want everybody to be able to express their First Amendment rights. In a safe way and respect everybody's opinions to the best we can and respect the instructions to law enforcement so we can all stay safe because you're saying specifically they're looking at things in Sacramento or in the nation's capital in Washington, DC, But nothing specific here in San Diego. We have no specific information of anything tied to the inauguration on the 20th. I think it's reasonable expected One of the groups that we've seen protesting on a weekly basis here in San Eagles will probably be out this weekend and review the days leading up to the inauguration. But we've interacted with those groups and by and large, they stayed relatively peaceful. We saw last week and Pacific Beach when that wasn't the case in San Diego Police Department handle that. I think an exemplary fashion to recap here if there are first moment protests if they're peaceful protest. Can occur here. Law enforcement there already In case things turn violent. Absolutely. We're say we hope for the best we plan for the worst we will have. The resource is in place or they might not be visible. But we will have. The resource is in place to hopefully address any demonstrations that become violent or destruction of property. That's not gonna be tolerated. I don't care what side of the political arguments have, son. Said. You go, Sheriff Bill Gore. We'll check on the markets coming up Next. This is news radio 600 Kogo. It went together, We believe that your acts of generosity should be rewarded. That's.
"san diego police department" Discussed on Newsradio 600 KOGO
"My Oh says he has not endorsed Bri Bri released a statement saying in part, violence and threats of violence have no place in civil society. However, it's outrageous that Todd Gloria is blaming me while his supporters are promoting political ads that have resulted in numerous personal threats against me. DiMaio also released a statement saying, in part that Gloria is desperate to distract voters from his indefensible support for the controversial law. All right. So what's interesting there is the media bent over backwards to try toe pump up Todd Gloria, coming out with a police report was filed. Did they actually go into the actual text messages or Social Post know if they had, they would have seen that they were garden variety snide remarks people would make on Facebook and Twitter. Of which every politician has snide remarks made against them on Facebook and Twitter. There were no threats made against Todd Gloria. And in fact, that's why you didn't hear this story. Once Todd Gloria screamed at the top of his lungs clutching his pearls were these diamond tiara or whatever he was clutching on? He said. No, I'm under attack. I'm filing a police report. Well, Well, if you actually were threatened There should be someone arrested. Well, whoever threatened you with physical violence should easily be right out now they'd actually have threatened to Gloria. They made remarks like your piece of dirt for supporting this law. Get the hell out of San Diego. If you're going to support sex offenders, you have no place in San Diego politics. Things like that. Do your job, man. Do your damn job and so again. The media should have said Todd Gloria files false police report in the middle of pandemic when resources are thin, Todd Gloria decides to use the police department for a political stunt. And you know how they describe the law. A judge has discretion to No, describe it for what it is. That's the 1 45 removes the statutory requirement that someone who assaults a child as young as 14 has to register as a sex offender. That's what the law does. Don't say the law gives a judge affirmatively the ability to do this because no, no, no, no, no, The judge always has the ability to do it. Before and after the law. What glory did was he stripped? The mandatory requirement. And that is Dispute that needs to be raised, and that's what voters need to be aware. Of course, the media doesn't want to coverage. The dance doesn't want to cover the damn story because they got someone like Todd, glorious screaming. Homophobia have a victim. Now you are a bad politician. Supporting a very dangerous law, and you don't deserve to be the mayor overseeing the San Diego Police Department. This be 1 45 have money tied up in it somewhere that That I'm not seeing. No, no, it's perversion. I mean, there's no it is garden variety, loony leftist theory that somehow the sex offenders. Are, you know, hurting and because they have to be on the registry. Well, you know what? Maybe you shouldn't be targeting little Children. All right. Try that. We think that targeting little Children for sex is a no abomination. And we need to protect our Children. But glory doesn't see it that way. He thinks sex offenders need a little bit more help, and that's how he's going to governors Mayor will keep an eye on him coming up. The big news are big success story with defeating tax hikes. In 2020, even though we were outspent in so many ways that's coming up on the divine report. First track Probably helpful. San Diego Honda dealers Traffic.
Ford employees ask the company to stop making police cars
"Motor Company is out with a Ah, process that they're going through about 100 employees have gone public with their request to the automaker to stop selling police vehicles because Police are brutal and they're racist. Ford executives are weighing the request and have not yet made an announcement. But there's a lot of pressure on social media for Ford to tell police departments they will no longer sell. The vehicles to them. So what is Toyota get vehicles them selling, you know, picking up the slack market share because right now serious, San Diego has Toyota four runners the SUVs. So I mean, thie employees air urging the cut that their boss the company do not make and sell. Ah police units. Ah, police cruisers to city so that Some other. There's still gonna be police cars. Why would you not want to get your fair share of that market place? If your employees of Ford apparently, these people don't want their jobs, I mean, I would put them on the top of the list of fire. All right, somebody safe and your name to the layoff list If we lose the contract, you know, with the Tuscaloosa, Alabama Police Department that you're the 1st 1 to relinquish your well, why don't you just quit forward then? I mean, why? Why? Why does four have to stop making the product? That's what they're in the business of doing is making automobiles. Yeah. Bia Social Justice warrior full time. You don't need to work out. Ford, you know, support is not consistent with your values. So be a social justice warrior. Put your money where your mouth is and quit your job, mate. This This is absurd. I've decided. I don't like it. Don't don't want to give Ah police Cruiser to Ah! Ah, car to the police. But does that mean that you also are going to use 901? I'd love to get the name of the 100 people and block their ability from their cell phone to dial 911 is apparently where they don't need no police and there's their community. They don't need cars. They don't need police. So no. 911 for you. I mean, this is where you start pointing out the Um, the bankruptcy of some of these folks in terms of what they're saying, their advocate and and the absolute absolute juvenile nature of these causes. I mean, this is child's play, right? I mean, this's not thoughtful. This isn't academic. This isn't deep. This isn't even You know, argumentative. I mean, this is this is just this is foolishness. This is this is child's play. The head of Ford has sent a letter to employees and it it reads in part, quote as we meet weekly in our global team huddles. Invariably there are questions that don't get answered, given the short time we have together. Or simply would be better addressed off line. On it goes on to talk about. Ah Ah, you know the fact that quote Bill Ford, and I believe deeply that there is no room for systemic repression and racism that have been exhibited by law enforcement encounters gone wrong. Um Your your product had nothing to do with it. Why are you taking ownership of part of the problem? You made the car. You didn't make the police officer or even the police officer's equipment or the rule book and I go back to having a CEO of a company. Come out with a statement like that. That that somehow they've made the judgment that racism was driving. Ah, ah, the inappropriate use of force. Again. I don't think we can say that. I think it's nice to say Well, if the cop is white, and the suspect was black, the victim was black. So therefore it must be racism. That's a pretty lousy assumption to be making. And to have a CEO of one of our largest companies come out and basically validate that and then go on in a what is a nine paragraph letter explaining how they're wrestling with this decision about literally saying we're not gonna sell cars to a pretty significant portion. You know, we had at least I think 600 800 cars. Andi. I know that these are not cheap cars. So let's say that there because they're there outfitted with a bunch of special equipment and stuff. So let's say that these cars are 50 grand each for the city of San Diego. Alone. That's a $40 million hit for Ford. For just a cycle of vehicles $40 million. That's just for San Diego Police department, then multiply that by all the police departments across the country. Your shareholder and Ford. Relatively ticked. Out on the opposite end of the spectrum. I'm not a shareholder in Ford. I'm relatively ticked. I'm just relatively tick that the company is taking this kind of stance. Whether they're toward with their emotions. It's the car. It isn't the attitude of the law enforcement official. It isn't It isn't anybody. It's it's the inanimate object, but yet they feel like that. Somehow they're contributing to systemic racism by manufacturing, a police unit. Now on the other end of the spectrum. A CEO of a food company paid a small compliment to President Trump. A Rose Garden ceremony yesterday. And now he is facing calls for resignation, and even members of Congress have urged people to boycott the food manufacturer.
San Diego sheriff defends officers' use of deadly force
"Here in San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore is defending his brothers and sisters at the San Diego Police Department. Speaking with AM seven sixties Mark Larsen, San Diego County Sheriff Bill Gore talked about how three shootings in the past 12 days involving officers at the San Diego Police Department translates to his deputies. And sheriff's no matter how good your deescalation training and policies are. It takes two to deescalate. Gore also mentioned what happens when de escalation doesn't work with officers. You're gonna have a weapon a gun and pointed A deputy sheriff for a long enforcement officer. De escalation is it's out of the question at that point time, these officers have a right to protect themselves in the community, and they had to use deadly force. Sadly, Gore was referencing an incident earlier this week when San Diego police fatally shot a man during a confrontation in city
Body Cam, Surveillance Footage Released After San Diego Officers Shoot Man Downtown
"Comments. the San Diego police department Officials released have passed saying an emergency officers resolution body condemning camera his and racist surveillance and video bigoted of Saturday's statements, police made shooting in a 1971 on Sixth Avenue interview of a man and suspected are calling on of the pointing Orange a gun County Board at of them Supervisors dropped the name thank the statue. Another likeness is from the airport thank in the Playboy Magazine interview. He makes statements against black people, Native Americans and the LGBTQ community, thirty three the corona wires. Pandemic tightening Its grip on the U. S. Is cases surge that across man twenty the country. five year Texas, old in Leonardo Florida and her Arizona Tado Ebara are among of of the state's San San Diego Diego getting was was hit wanted wanted especially for for robbery robbery hard by he he the virus. is is in in the the hospital hospital Former Commissioner officers officers of the Food and Drug say say they they Administration, tried tried to to talk talk Scott to to him him Gottlieb but but joined they they say say CBS's he he bara bara pulled pulled face the Nation out out and and to pointed pointed talk about a a gun gun the use at at them them decision you can to see ban the video American and travelers see what you see over the in Corona it virus on our countries. morning news page at That coco really dot crushed