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The Breakdown: The Spell Of Yma Sumac

Latino USA

38:13 min | 1 year ago

The Breakdown: The Spell Of Yma Sumac

"This message comes from NPR sponsor xfinity. Some things are slow like a snail races. Other things are fast like Xfinity X. by get get fast speeds. Even when everyone is online working to make WIFI simple easy awesome more at xfinity dot com restrictions apply Antonia. Do you know whose voices no. I kind of half expected you to say yes so actually that woman is Im- assumig well I do know who we must su Mac is but you can't interest played three notes and I'm like some sort of amazing savant. Is the three notes of MSMX. How did I forget that you weren't a musical genius true yeah? She was really popular in the fifty s right yeah Ema Samak was known as the Queen of EXOTICA AH and an inca princess and like you said she was a big deal in the nineteen fifties but actually her career lasted decades. When I went to go listen to Oh oh my gosh I never in a million years would ever listen all those notes that she's saying this is Gabriella Radius Nicaraguan American Soprano in the Lindenman Young Artist Development Program at the Metropolitan Opera Ema could sing four almost five octave range which is why it's hard to classify her into any of the traditional singing classifications an average soprano can sing? Maybe three octaves who was really guy catching for me. When you're catching I should say is when I heard her like the rain so that she has she sings bass notes notes that the lowest list category of male voice? She sang those notes. ooh That's a voice that sounds like a that's wild as well as way beyond the highest category insane she presented something very unusual this Nikola Manzke he wrote a book on Max Life because you have to understand that a lot of the things that she did on record. Nobody ever heard anybody do before then variety they printed this big advertisement in about ema saying that she had signed in forty seven states of America forty cities in Russia twenty four people were drawn to her. She played in cities all all over the world and at every airport she was received like royalty so we're talking about a woman who was famous technically back then she she was more famous. I think than somebody like beyond I refuse to believe that she was more famous than beyond saying well you can decide for yourself in the end but she's the only Peruvian woman to have a star on the Hollywood walk of Fame Yeah. She was in movies booker but at the same time in her homeland she was accused of exploiting her indigenous roots for decades this inca princess would cast a spell l. with her mystical voice but the one place has proven beauty couldn't put a spell on was her place of birth Peru from NPR Fuda media. I'm Anthony yesterday he though and today the breakdown the spell of e Masuma all right. I'm here with producer Genie Montalvo hey and though today we're talking about one the original divas Emma assumig ever since this Latin duty set foot on American soil email Sumatra goldenvoice have been electrifying uh part of her lure besides the extraordinary voice was it came out of a beautiful beautiful woman that that has everything to do with this. This is Damon divine. He was personal assistant makeup artist friend and he was her caretaker throughout the last decade of her life she had upwards slanted. Green is which I suppose would consider exotic and the famous EMA eyeliner would exaggerate that the full now the patent leather looking black hair the bone structure that with the voice was said to spill on people okay so she had these green is is yeah and what's called exotic but she had a lot of European features. I was just enchanted immediately. I think people thought maybe I made that up but it's a real thing and I've seen it many many times since me now emma was known for her lavish outfits wearing amazing jewels and an extravagant gowns and her indigenous style accessories and headdresses our first guest this evening Miz Ima Sooman the height of her career was in the fifties he's and into the early sixties exciting voices. I've ever heard thank you that is kind but she was popular for so much longer later on Damon says she struggled she had driven away lots of people and our social circle and her professional circle so she was quite isolated in her her own way while she rose to prominence across the globe she was dealing with all these challenges in her life including this backlash that she dealt with from Peru but let's let's start at the beginning. He was punished soil in these and Komo consumer is my name to but improve your name improving language which means a beautiful flower of beautiful girls they say you know and I was born in two thousand years ago but I- Yup that's Masuma can a French TV documentary nine hundred ninety three when she says Peruvian language she means catch Wa an indigenous language spoken in the Andes when I was really the the hallway is that something that she was born with. Could anybody trained to have it sort of like no rains like how did she even achieve that she was self taught. I never had a teach you because the way I sing thinking okay. No one can see that email from an interview in one thousand nine hundred four she she was born in which is part of America region in the Andes but she also grew up in Lima and she's the baby of six children. My parents were very strict special my a month. They told my parents that I went to be a singer. Oh my mother was thorough. Upset very angry. Say No never never never She adopts her stage name Emma Supermac because her parents weren't too into the idea of her singing the only who that we're seeing what my oldest sister's so one day my formulas liberal from listened to radio I stash hanging here to my sister asked he she mommy mother. Do you know who she no. No pushy in beautiful very nice father the you know who is Itchy acing known ooh computer mice. He didn't you know she she joins a folkloric Lorca Music Group in one thousand nine hundred eighty two WHO's director moist. Sp Funchal later that year becomes her husband during the next four years the group through blows up all over Latin America at this moment in time she's doing strictly folkloric music and that is what propels them to fame they played in both Mexico and Argentina which are considered the two meccas of the entertainment industry. If you were anyone you perform there and so having reached the top and Latin America Eamon her husband voices formed a trio and decided to move from Peru to New York City in nineteen eighteen forty six the in Kentucky trio is composed of Ema supermac Yala or Toledo Rivera plus noises. We've uncle but they're met with a lukewarm reception. New York City at the time was home to young folk singers like Woody Guthrie and Pete Seeger from all of you. Good workers good knew how the good old union although North American roots are folk music was big in the nineteen forties that in Kentucky trio didn't fare as well as they hoped Andean folk music but as the dawn of the fifties approach another movement of music emerging called EXOTICA EXOTICA so you mentioned at the top of the show that Ema was the queen of exotic but what is exotic. I am glad you asked that exotic was this genre of music think Mambo tiki lounge rhythms combining things from like the South Pacific afro-caribbean Afro Caribbean rhythms. I think Nikola Manzke says it best in his book. He says exotic becomes popular partially because the sounds inspired American American fantasies of quote Foreign Lands and Cultures Mysterious temple ruins and forbidden rituals forbidden rituals. I mean it sounds sounds fun but also very stereotypical. I'm thinking like the Tiki Room and Disneyland cartoonish impressions of what Foreign Countries are like exactly and a lot of the time the music was this mash of sounds and rhythms of what people fought the traditional music in those countries sounded like so quick story so you can grasp grasp how far they would take these ideas of exoticism right. One of the biggest names in pioneers of exotica is less Baxter who actually worked with him assuming Les Baxter writes the song that we're hearing quiet village in one thousand nine hundred eighty one Martin Denny another one of the exotic pioneers rerecord the song a few years later and what's the primary difference they added animal sounds ended a do better that version made it to number four on the billboard hot hot one hundred chart in nineteen fifty nine so without animal sounds. It wasn't a hit but with animal sounds it was yeah oh my gosh so the name exotica actually comes from Martin Denny's album exotica that track appeared on in nineteen fifty seven so I find this music very entertaining and Super Fun to listen to but I also feel very weird about it. I mean it draws on racist stereotypes of primarily indigenous people from other countries. I can absolutely understand that and I agree but I think as a musician. If you take it out of the context of the stereotypes CBS and for its musical value the compositions and things are really beautifully done and in the fifties people ate up those stereotypes well part of it was I think the time the time in America America goes to war men of the Army Navy and Marines reinforce the battlefronts on six continents. We're talking nine thousand nine hundred fifty. The Second World War had just ended and Americans were looking for something to entertain them so nick argues in his book that the deadliness of World War Two made Americans desire escape it also allowed many people who had never traveled to travel all over the world people who were stationed in places like Hawaii. The South Pacific came back home with different views of the world the nation was prosperous and air travel became a thing in fifty three twenty two cities in the united estates and six Caribbean countries joined the system so there was a tourism boom right. Yeah aircrafts were improved. You could fly farther and faster it brings these magic islands close to your next door neighbor and there were more televisions so you could bring images of these foreign lands to every household you mentioned Disneyland. The First Disney park opens in one thousand nine hundred eighty five announces the opening of Disneyland and the place is around the world are focused on these one hundred sixty acres here are people discovered all these new places and cultures places like Peru high in the Peruvian Andes. There's an ancient city called much okay but Machu Pichu was discovered way before the nineteen eleven even right yes but the first hotel wasn't built until the nineteen forties so that was still mysterious thing in that kind of put Peru on the map and then you have the singer comes from through who sings like nobody's ever heard and we've got a good gimmick so the time period was is primed for someone like Ms Bhakta exist and her unique voice and stage persona coupled with her exotic look leads to her big break out of the folkloric trio. She gets noticed and signed with Capitol records in Nineteen fifty. Here's Damon divine again and I have the papers where they say hand written mind you with their letterhead capitol records were not particularly interested in your husband or cousin 'cause they came here as a trio. They said that we are interested. In Ema. supermac capitol records had Frank Sinatra. Someone who really Nat King Cole Everybody Fun Fact Frank Sinatra opened for Masuma in Japan will voice of America. A star is born Yasuo Max. This is also the point we're capitol. Records changes the spelling of her name. The name was originally spelled I. M. M. A. and Capitol records changes it to why. Ma because is why is considered more exotic and it works She was just huge after that I record I was nuts so one hundred thousand copies in nineteen fifty with very little promotion. The album is called Voice of the Bay and is released in September of Nineteen fifty by the end of that year. The album was number. One varieties bestseller list that album has never been out of print which is one of the few albums through history that can claim that fact Dang the liner notes on this album or amazing listen to this prepare for an exotic musical experience of voyage and discovery into a new land of sound for you have never in your life heard anyone seeing like Emma Su Mac I mean true statement at least about the thing yeah but while Emma was getting rave reviews her home country was not seduced adduced by her song coming up the Inca princesses complicated relationship with Peru. She didn't mention yes. I guess that was her way of dealing with it not to mention Peru at all those years. Stay with US NOT US hi there. I'm Felix data's host of NPR music. All Latino ask ask every for many people around the country celebrate Latino heritage month and while we like to say every month is a heritage month and our program we still like to do something extra special entreat heat listen and subscribe to outlet from NPR and join the fun yeah and and we're back with producer Jean or Jeanie okay so we've been talking about. Ms Amac who I've learned now had really unreal voice. She was famous in the nineteen fifties. She was also a very complicated woman. She was known as the INCA princess. The Queen of EXOTICA when we left off Masuma just released her groundbreaking album voice voice of the extra bay which to this day has never been out of print on the liner notes to the album. There's a review from a Brazilian newspaper. It says the problems of our modern world or forgotten through the magnetism of this fabulous gift which comes to us directly descended from Wada Oughta last of the Inca kings but what she actually the descendant of Inca royalty very early on E. Masuma claimed she she was directly descended from the last INCA king at the white people tend to assume that was a US marketing ploy but she was using that before she ever set foot in New York City so still unclear if she is or is not an actual princess in nineteen fifty four the peak of his fame. She gets a big Hollywood break. She's given a role in the secret of the INCAS with none other than Charlton Heston where she plays an inca princess good guess but not as sort of inc a high priestess daughter saying this song when she in the virgins regions of the temple were claimed by the Sun some people say inspired the Indiana Indiana Jones Film Raiders of the lost Ark Because asked us like American tour guide in this foreign land searching for lost treasure. I think it's so funny that all of these like foreign films have that same like thank you to all countries outside of the US museum play pamphlet and really this one is no different. She's in the Andes where they're searching for this loss gold Trinka to make the INCA people great again the only then will the people don't think the great in the senior hearing she's up in the mountains seeing to amass of indigenous people oh who are just staring at her and kind of swaying back and forth needless to say this didn't go over well with Peruvians way then local people the couscous people were portrayed as brainless masses that worship mummies or worship princesses or objects and that's pretty much a porpoise of their lives they just stands and seeing and be beautiful or cute for foreigners. That's soil Mendoza a Peruvian anthropologist and a professor of Native American Studies at UC Davis she wrote about e Mak. An Inca identity. Soilih tells me that when Ema went on tour through Peru there were protests and people threw tomatoes at her the one element that causes big uproar and protests was was the film this has to do with stereotypes and I think in the world with your with stereotypes all the time and they can be very damaging. I was waiting for the shoe to drop people saw her as exotic sizing right probably stereotyping people basically yeah local newspapers would criticize and recall how she was portraying a Peru and KOSCO that did exist and for her own profit for her own on benefit for her own fame and the movie sets off a spiral of criticisms that don't end for decades. Here's one comment from medicine one thousand nine hundred eighty nine which states that on on her tour throughout Akiba people quote whistled and hooted rejection because with her statements this renegade Peruvian Ema Su Mac had often made her countrymen look savage avagian primitive. She may be admired for her art but her unworthy attitude a Peruvian can never be forgiven and quote. I mean I I understand if you you feel that your community is being made a cartoon out of I understand why there is such a strong response true and there are two other things that she's critiques for one year after the movie comes out she becomes a US citizen which was seen as betrayal to the Peruvian public by giving her nationality and two people saw her as abandoning her folkloric roots music to Exotica they saw her selling out she was incorporating a lot of fusion's with the Andean melodies and rhythms but in folkloric glorious circles that wasn't received well so I think what happened was that she was kind of caught in between what her her original public appreciated her own art and what was expected for her persona to be in a different context like the US bob in Peru she was a folkloric musician but in the US she was an exotic musician and portraying being this image of Peru that didn't exist. She couldn't please both one of her biggest. Critiques Comes from Jose Marietta Gas Peruvian author author who wrote a book Nuestra Musica is Hussein therapies published in nineteen seventy seven are popular music and its performers in which he wrote how can a woman who can't even speak a single word of Ketchaoua who grew up in Lima the capital and not in the mountains sing traditional songs of the Andes. He says she he has no national pride and he goes on to say she's deformed the Andean music making its most noble intense a pleasing show for the common people every time I hear critiques like this. I'm like wow people think that what's happening now on twitter conversation but we've been having these conversations about authenticity for such a long time exactly exactly and you know to say Masuma was a saint would be incorrect. She was also known to say that the only reason people knew Peru was because of her not cool and in in the seventies she walked off a TV show in Peru because she got into an argument with the host potentially cool yeah but what was her response to all of this criticism mainly radio silence silence she hardly went to Peru. She went a few times when her family members were ill but not on any major tours in fact in my research. I never came across her speaking being publicly about this at the same time she was receiving all this criticism. A lot was happening for her personally personally. Do you feel about the same year. The movie comes out e- Mine Moi says her husband get into some trouble. Here's Nikola Maskey who we'd heard from earlier when they came back from their European tour nineteen fifty four she couldn't get back into New York harbor because immigration said you you know you can't come in and turns out the irs they owed thousands and thousands and thousands of dollars on all the recordings and all the tours Ahah done since nineteen nineteen forty six to nineteen fifty four when Capitol records decided they wanted Emas Solo Act Moiseyev's took a backseat managing producing an all of the finances is it takes email like thirty years to pay this. Irs Bill off when it comes to the paternity suit was like a devil slap in the face and in nineteen fifty eighty five emas personal secretary files a paternity suit against moisture s for her twin daughters cold I know and while a lot of emas personal information general is hard to find that scandal was very public. She took camera crews and confronted the secretary while that is. TMZ Z. Moves I know pre. TMZ There are other allegations of indiscretion but really the public scandal and paternity suit were too much. I really do think that a lot of the problems that she had had to do with the fact that she naively or whatever let says take care of Everything Oh oh they do finally get divorced in Nineteen fifty eight and despite that she continues to work relationship for almost ten years with myself us after she fully separated professionally. She was left to manage her career on her own serve in an interview beauty said you know when you are in your business this Jarvis for holiday difficult because you have to be almost perfect in my case for instance as you know the the critics all over the world about Im- Asama so much she has this that I'm not perfect you know so when I came to the stage ahead ahead to be exactly why they describe Im- assume you know cameras so much they may have a very sacrified knife she became much. It's more solitary and somewhat difficult to work with. She was known to stop concerts if she didn't agree with something. I want to give a book uh he must Suma was this very a a unique and amazing figure. I would say a very strong woman for her time. This is oil Mendoza Jose again. She argues along with other people. I've interviewed EMA got a lot of unfair criticism because of her gender effect that she was a woman an environment that was dominated by male figures so it could have been that to the fact that she was harshly criticized a lot of the voices that were in the newspapers. I love the artist criticizing her were men for example the author who critiqued her so harshly for not speaking any Kitwe Outta gave us in that same long criticism he tax on a line at the end about her estranged husband voices saying thankfully Moist von Co is with her and he can save the day hey he who can really know are true Andy and music during her time being a woman and famous must have been really really hard it against the US was slightly different. I don't think a lot easier necessarily during that time but easier them Peru and you know we women biddle. Even though things are changing I are not always considered as valued or worth it or smart is always always only because maybe you're a pretty face. Maybe you make it by the time she started to work with Damon in the late nineteen ninety. s Peru wasn't something she spoke about. Here's Damon divine again. She never mentioned that I found this out going through her things or left to me. Is it's a dress from secret of the INCAS. These were good luck earrings. These Gold Fish Damon inherited EMA state the newspaper headlines The things she she said to them the things they said to her. She didn't mention it. I guess that was her way of dealing with it was not to mention Peru. It'll in those years. The sixties gives birth to rock and roll and space travel replaces the allure a foreign land all our people began to forget him assumig but ema continued to tour and and comeback she recorded a rock album miracles released in one thousand nine hundred ninety two which would be her last studio album that still had the characteristic Ema vocalisations Masuma gave her last concert in Nineteen ninety-seven at the Montreal jazz festival she developed a sort of cult following in later years became an icon for the Lgbtq community and our music found its way into movies like the Big Lebowski ski comedy. TV shows like madman is to find a husband here sambo's like the black-eyed Peas Kilhay Robin Thicke and even this commercial everyday exotic the eastern generation catches onto her the goths and punks discovered in the eighties when she had that really huge comeback I think identify that they were unusual and and she was unusual and there was a connection there and she liked them as much as they liked her so we'd gone to some public function a concert and she was hungry but she was very exhausted from people coming up to her all night so she said let's just go here. I see a bunch of young people there. They won't know anything anything so we go in there and we step into the main dining area and the moment we step in their so young girl jumps up from the table and says the whole Dan place who am I gun. It seems to me and she says I gotta but what happened with her in Peru. Did she ever go back. Well two years before she passed so a Ema went to Peru to finally receive recognition home by different innocuous who played important by then three. I'm was she got no. I'm very surprised they're saying she's a very important character in our musical history. I'm shocked given how much they hate it on her now. She became came icon. What happened well? This is Linda Lozano. He's a historian but also the director of the program Suseya the owing do which means it happened in Peru title full vocal in Pelvis Luck. They did an episode on how Peru had a change of heart with Masuma in the early two thousands radio host mediated Molinari started using his radio show to promote EMA SUPERMAC and make a case for bringing her to Peru to give her recognition and while she was still alive so I called lean barrier to talk about what changed for Peruvians Nakayama suit mercury on Rossio. He says it was the debt they had. She hasn't been given the importance she should have. He says enough time has passed so enough time has passed and and now they started to see value and why well limber goes on to say that she was a product of time hip or goal data own marking EXOTICA will he says yes she did present an inauthentic image and exotic view of Peru but it's important to remember the norms of Hollywood at the time Holywood. Take it all the limitations of WHO could succeed in Hollywood at the time he says you you have to remember the context in which she lived reliable but also says there's a saying in Peru Pierra. It's literally literally that no one is a prophet in their own land meaning a lot of times. People need to leave home to be heard your whom he says he must do Mac isn't the only case ace cases like the movie and composer and singer Rhonda and Susanna Vaca all had greater followings outside of Peru by being uh but things are changing the country is different. They're reclaiming what's theirs in two thousand six Peru awards her lowering. I saw the highest award can be given for extraordinary contributions amongst a few other awards and accolades not working on here you can hear her arriving into one of the government buildings packed with people and an orchestra playing and Condor Pasa a song considered part of Peruvian National Heritage Asong which even she herself covers in the nineteen seventies and here's the windows are anthropologist. We heard from earlier so emma had already been diagnosed with a column cancer and I think people knew that I'm those who have and the background before you die. They're very important things that you need to do that. Relate to your past and so we go through the world leaving part of US wherever we go in order to continue our travel after we die we will have to go back to those places and retrace our steps in fact. It's funny because I think opposite than the idea of the bucket list the bucket list like you have two things you haven't done in Peru. People are always in many ways nuke into the past in a positive way. You know you have to recognize what came before you did before in order to move forward on good old. It really seems like Emas decade-long career came full circle when she retraced her steps yeah exactly and soil actually has another connection to assume her mother and Ema were friends when they were in school and as part of his journey she visited Zola's Ella's mother she went to my mother's house and went to visit her and they hugged and she said I wanted to give you a hug and kiss you make a way we were girls emotional here. She left the Anna just past. ooh Masuma finally made peace with her home country. She never forgot Peru machine done that will show not that wouldn't you this episode was produced by Genie Montalvo and edited by Sophia Car to let you know. USA TEAM INCLUDES VERONICA MARINA APNEA UNDONE yesterday Hugo feeling genesee Annalisa Scouts in fact checking by Lila Chernow special. Thanks to Demon divine our engineers are Stephanie Lebowe and Julia Caruso our production manager is not that our digital team includes Julio Ricardo Rivera and Amanda Are New York Women's foundation ignite fellow was for men and that would our intern is other Dan that our theme music was composed by Sydney arena if you like the music you heard on this episode stop by Net the USA dot org and check out our weekly. Please spotify playlist. I'm your host today and yesterday he though our executive producer is my horse join us again next time and in the meantime you can find us on Social Media Yaas US Latino. USA is made possible in part by the Ford Foundation working with visionaries on the frontlines of social change worldwide the John D and Catherine T. Macarthur Foundation and the housing Simon's foundation unlocking working knowledge opportunity and possibilities more at H. S. Foundation Dot Org holder holder fester stronger longer that that that that don't kill me. 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Some Plants That Give Red Color in the Fall

Your Gardening Questions

02:53 min | 6 months ago

Some Plants That Give Red Color in the Fall

"There are a great number of plant well, almost every plant has some sort of fall color. The ones that would give her read though starting with a fairly sizable vibe Burnham called Winter Third W. I n. t.. E. R. T. H.. U. R.. It's a maroon dark. Maroon Leaf. It has then what's called a droop fruita believe is correct and it's it's half the size of a grape and just about the color of a of a green purple grape. Fragrant SUPERMAC is Grollo Samak. I happen to have that around the base of a tree toughest nails it. It is putting up at the tree, the root system of the tree. Is a few weeds and keeps on keeping on. It has a good looking fall colored female spice Bush is bright yellow. Now, that's not going to be the color she's after, but we come then to common witch Hazel, which is again a little off of the the norm as far as getting into reds, but it's usually a rusty orange type of thing then well, June Berry or service Berry, and the reason is called both is that June berry the fruit has developed turns from green to bless green to more red to purple you have to fight the birds. Then it has a wonderful rusty red fall color in most cases. Father Guilt well, and there are many varieties of service berry from probably only head height who will. Six. Foot or so on up to about fifteen twenty feet then there's a plant called Father Guillot. SHRUB I have seen it whether it's a giant one, our standard when if you will. Ask for the Standard Planet is probably your best bet because the the big old fashioned one, I've seen. UNMANAGED period over it does I've seen it eight or more feet wide in probably eight feet tall. So it it and at the same time, I know where there are a dozen of them on each side of a major walkway into a business building facing south. Hot Dry miserable on sloped ground it still holds up and when it comes fall, it goes into red orange rid and when you're off, Oh, a hundred or more feet from that entrance almost looks like a fire burning on both sides of the entrance. A good one. There's another plant that goes into the burgundy color. There's a dwarf of it and a standard size. It is called it. It EA It has a white flower in the spring not unattractive but not real big and showy however in the fall all things being equal it's a very deep burgundy.

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"Big Band Files" Salute to the Singers (HR 2)

Doug Miles Media

54:41 min | Last month

"Big Band Files" Salute to the Singers (HR 2)

"Welcome back to our second hour of our big band files salute to the singers. Here at twelve eighty. Wtn y doug myers with you as we're happy to bring you some of the greatest music ever made. Here's jessica alaska to start off with your Build or upper you want to. You are able to make me feel like betty then next minute. Jim make me feel something from zoo. I to warm up than your distant never met a guy so inconsistent. I'm a big shot at half past one masao and so by to heaven. Forgive you for your sins. Keeping me on needles build upper upper goodell hold router mckeever route to taking from take over like you don't know where this garon chance to love you just ready to sound. Everything is an open your your your builder up. Approved goodell a holder out in mcgivney. Alava do broken by a builder up like you Saab dobbin everything is good. That's my story your building up at a break down older mcgeever read true broken by like you can buy. Did you say god. 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Jaws  Follow-Up with Mom (Special Episode)

Piecing It Together Podcast

19:10 min | 9 months ago

Jaws Follow-Up with Mom (Special Episode)

"All right welcome to a very special quick episode of piecing it together. The podcasts were were usually take a look at a new movie and try to figure out what movies inspired, but today on the show. This is just a little bonus I've got my mom on. Just the other day. I went over to her house to watch jaws in anticipation of the main episode that we did the breaking it apart episode, which went up on Friday which you should check out if you haven't yet but I figured I was going to have to watch it in preparation for that and I know. My mom loves shark movies especially. Jaws I figured I'd. I'd go over there and watch it with her. And as soon as we finished, I turned on the recorder, and we recorded a little something so I do encourage you to check out the rest of the show. We've got one hundred thirty something episodes out there. If there's a movie you've watched and you WanNa, hear me and against. Get into what movies we think inspired it. Lots of great content for you guys to check out. Go check out some other episodes. Subscribe wherever it is, you listen to podcasts. You can follow us on social media at Piecing pod and with that said. Let's get into this little chat with my mom. Now Forty Five, forty, five twenty five years, Yahtzee, Ron and Valerie. Taylor. Real shocks they assist like the superstars the Elvis. Of the shock world. I just wanted to see that name. If I'm right. How many times have you seen this, thanks? Between fifty one hundred. Could be low balling it. How many times in the last couple of months? Is Their view of Peter Benchley. I'd probably start a dozen times in last month alone. It's been running late at night. Why do you love jaws so much? I don't know because I used to go to the beach all the time when I was good, but I think that it's said it's. A shark is like an unimaginable creature. It's like a dinosaur, and yet it's still exists. Did you ever? Have to deal with any sharks on the east coast of the beach now I took shape, said Bay. When you were a little boy, they came in with the fishing boats, and they were throwing out all the couch, their catches and sure enough they were baby sharks, but you will like three years old, so you wouldn't remember and they were holding them up. You just thought it was so funny. I thought it was funny. Yeah, you left. They didn't want them. There was so little. You know not even six inches probably. What about the sequels Oh God to is great three is the stupidest movie ever made and four. I love because it's like. Ultimately stupid, it's just the shark is following them to Nassau. It is following them. She knows it's looking for its family. To kill the right remaining. Survivors of the family. For is a pistole. visit three is just for morons. Maybe we'll watch some of the other ones one of these days. I we're GONNA. Do an episode on Jaws, and of course we're GONNA talk about the movies that were inspired by jaws. There's of course a million of them so I. Know where we're going to be recording that soon, but what do you think? What are some of the big ones? Do you think I love all the piranha movies as often say? Are I love fitness like octo, Crock and Those kind of movies. Crawl is amazing with like a half, a dozen alligators. Yeah Absolutely Anaconda you and I went together in the poconos. We were so worried about ice cube whether he would live died, and that's why he wasn't in the show at Thomas Samak the up in smoke, show that we went to with Dray, am and snoop because he was busy filming and a conduct O. Way before that I think so, and then also the second one is really terrible. The Anaconda the search for the blood orchid something Oh my God! There are these morons in laboratories. I called those movies M. F.. And B. M. May. For Morons made by Morons, and yet I loved dearly. I don't know if they're like modern-day Dracula and Frankenstein Myth, and the made for Morons May by Mora a Hashtag right there. You Go. You mentioned in the middle of the movie. You mentioned Orca Wonderful Richard. Harris Charlotte ramping they catch a female whale, and while she's up on the hook. You won't believe what happens. Horrible the female wail is pregnant, and the fetus comes flying out of the female whale, and everybody is our fight. They realize they've done this terrible terrible thing, but then they go out to see anyway and the Hubby. The male Orca sees they're out at sea, and they killed his wife and his baby, and he takes care of them one by one by one, thank. He led Charlotte rampling live for some reason, but oh Richard. Harris's death soon was amazing the way he flung him up against the ice. It was it was just he just went to every single one of them. I also my favorite movies to actually are not in the water, any bear movie. Food. Grizzly park has to be the best worst movie ever made I watched every time, but it's not on enough, and that one is great like when the Grizzlies poor swaps at the swipes at the girl's breasts and her implants go flying. Then they don't know. Is that a real bear in the window? One them wearing a bare mass any of the, and then there was a movie grizzly way before you were born exacerbated. That was in. It is dead like Toll Western? Guys in ritual Jaekle? who was a little western guy and he ate the mall to I think. love bear movies and the movie. The there is fabulous chip, and there's almost no dialogue in that movie whatsoever. That's a very different one very much, so yeah, because I think they only talk. At the end, the travel had the hunters, trappers, or whatever I also like I guess wild animal movies. and. Documentaries or you mean like anything with the wild animal. Yeah, pretty much. I just watch a lion. Eat Zebra islets still alive. If you want to choke the Zebra to death, and then eat it okay, I can watch that. Okay. I can't watch him in the actual active eating while it's living. That's a little disgusting. Will you named a lot of movies inspired by jaws that are actually grades or so bad. They're good, but there's a lot also that are just terrible. In this kind of John Raya like for example, a year or two ago, we went and saw the matrix in the theater. And just it wasn't so bad as good. It was just terrible. Those kinds of movies, the ones that don't have any fun. What like what are they missing? Well. We went to see the meg because I wanted to see Jason Stray them in the shower scene. However CGI affects in many cases in my opinion in many cases, they just fucking below I i. give me good, old, black, white Godzilla from like fifty five or something like this series of movies at the nuance of most sucked. Godzilla. Her absolutely horrific I don't WanNa. See a modern king on I like the old guy in the jungle with Fay. Wray screaming and I've seen probably about four of those songs. That I think about it your now. I- and then that goes back to my love of Dracula and Frankenstein an old the Wolfman. Oh My yes, I just you can't Orion. GOSLINGS GONNA play the Wolfman yet out. Got A six pack. That's ridiculous. It'll be a sexy Wolfman. Yes, he will be even a man who is pure at heart, and says his press at. Can become a wolf when the Wolf Bang grows, and the autumn moon is bright, and those words were uttered by little old Maria was skin sky in the original wolfman movie. Who spent sky? No, yeah, well I love that stuff any other thoughts about jaws before we wrap. It's beautifully filmed. did not a whole lot of character development I. Find It fascinating that Star. The movie was Bruce. The Shark is probably in less than thirty minutes of actual filming time, and yet you wait for him. The entire movie is kind of like The whipped cream on top of the ice cream. If she will answer favorite, Spielberg. N-. It probably is better than the raiders to me. What else did he do? Dress Park. Your life the original law. Yeah I remember once when we went to see one of the dressing barks and I think the lawyer was eaten alive by two dinosaurs, and you turn to me. This is twenty years ago and you said to me. Something like that's how I WANNA die still be ripped in half by two dinosaurs. know Spielberg's genius did I. Tell You that my group may late girlfriend honey. When to a Bar Mitzvah and it was orthodox Jews, man, everybody had a sit on different sides, the men on one and the women on the other, because they don't mix, and she looks to the side of her, and she's ceases skinny, little man, sitting there system to you look so familiar. It was Steven Spielberg and it was his nephew being barred midst read in the Selva Spring Airlines. I am six degrees of separation from everybody. Off So there well I always ask. Everybody was on this show. Do you have another movie watch recently like to recommend to our listeners, I don't the Gallison is would like it, but if you really want to get into something that's very light and frothy and completely make believe every time it's on I pretty much. Watch Notting Hill. It is just the most delightful hugh grant and Julia Roberts, and funny and shark to push and Otting, Hill. Right absolutely, I love it of course, my favorite movie. Can you guess of the last ten years? favorite movie of the last time maybe fifteen is vin diesel in it nope. Oh, I'll give you a hint. The initials of the name of the movie I t. t tropic thunder. motherfucker. I watched that every time it's onto. Dat thinks I'm crazy could keep watching old movies over Nova, but if I enjoy ad. Oh, what the heck! Why not now? And that's also my sense of humor and Robert Downey. Stole that picture like A. Like a mutton. Authentic small is. With, and he signed my pleasure out become back in a month or two. Hormone Antibody Hi. This is wax. Trax records here on twenty, nine, zero nine South Decatur. We buy all your old forty. Their old albums, any type of music memorabilia also we sell music memorabilia album CDs, at a lot of come on down on Wax Trax twenty, nine, nine South Decatur, or give me a call at seven, two, three, six, two, four, three hundred. Thank you very much A. All right so hope you enjoyed the conversation with my mom. It's always fun to get my parents on the show whenever I can. I'm sure we will get them back again sometime soon. So thank you everybody as always for listening and you know again. If you're new to the show and you haven't listened, we do have one hundred thirty something episodes to go back and check out I always say you know we do get into spoilers. Everything as we're getting deep into these movies, so make sure it's a movie that you've seen and then. Then go listen to the episode. There is a lot to check out a lot of really fun ones I. Love Having all kinds of new guests on everybody. Kinda brings a little bit of different personality in a different approach to the whole puzzle pieces, thing and it it. It's a show that I love. Doing and I'm really happy that you're all out there. Listening, so make sure subscribed wherever it is, you listen to podcasts. Share the show. If you enjoy it, you can also rate and review us on apple podcasts or pod chaser. Patriotic where for a few bucks a month you get early access to advanced episodes as well as some exclusive content from my music, so you know we always close out the show with a piece of my music and We're GONNA. Do that here in a minute, but exclusive music over on the Patriots so check that out, too and last, but not least our popcorn and puzzle pieces. Group is a facebook group where. Where we continue the conversation about all the movies we talk about here on the show, so if you're on facebook like talking movies, you want a cool group with a lot of great people to talk about movies with great group to do it and popcorn puzzle pieces, and one last thing before we close out the show with a piece of music. I am running a contest right now for a Mondo Jurassic Park. Jigsaw puzzle which is Super Super, cool and you can win it over on our website. Piecing pod dot com details there in the show notes for this episode and. What could I say I want to do a whole lot more contests in the future where we're trying to do them as often as possible but This is a really cool one. This jigsaw puzzle is Super Cool Mondo does some grey are prints and this one being drastic park. I figured this would be the perfect time to give this thing away, so check it out over on piecing pod. Dot Com enter the contest and you can win it. So, let's close this thing out with a piece of music as we always do, and you know anybody knows. My mom knows she's a big dog person, and so I figured I would close this out with a track from my little comedy project that may or may not get released later this year after many many years of just basically being finished and sitting on my hard drive and I really should release it one of these days. It's called the Puck pups in songs about my dogs and cats and this. This is one of the first pup song that was finished over ten years ago. it's called the hungry pups, and I've considered maybe not including this one on the album, because it's not as family friendly as the rest of the tracks I mean there's a we'd reference in this song so I don't know. The rest of the album is very very family friendly, so like do I want to cloud up with this track? I don't know, but it's funny and it's fun and I. Probably will include it because. You know whatever. So anyway this song it's called the hungry ups and is. Sung by me the SADIE rest in peace. PHOENIX RECIPE's. Lily bear and Harvey, so enjoyed hungry POPs from the PUCK, pups and we'll be back with more piecing it together coming out real soon. Names. Names. Puppet. Don't worry. It'll get his. Mommy and daddy didn't visit working how. I you. Grab. Sometimes we even into, but promising you. Mommy and Daddy Moines names. Account Ryan. And you're wondering. They get you. Is. That you! To spill. The is probably so. She's got to beg a Munshi. And Phoenix China! About those little cable crunchy. Names. Points West production produced by David Rosen in Las Vegas.

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Apryl Beverly's 'I Want All The Sales Campaign'

The Email Marketing Show

23:31 min | 2 months ago

Apryl Beverly's 'I Want All The Sales Campaign'

"Hey it's robin kennedy. The email marketing heroes today on the email marketing show talking to april. She's known as the million dollar words stylist. Her clients have made twenty two point six million dollars in revenue. She started her. Be a be back in nine years ago. With some madge influences like the six figure chicken big brands like people you've heard of like mcdonalds and all state and she's got to amazon bestsellers and she's well known for that phrase which we've all heard smack the by cutting today we're going to talk about april's campaign called the i want all the sales campaign which is just greedy if you can leave him for somebody else but we want all of those sales so we're gonna talk about that. Now listen when this comes to an end. Doom feel all alone with your questions. Come and hang out with us. Share what you're working on against all the training and the resources and everything that's going on in the free facebook group that we have just go to a web browser type in rob and kennedy dot group than if you'll remember that and kennedy dot group and it will take you straight over that okay. I'm joined by the man who wants owned fourteen pet doves which he kept in his parents garage. It's hypnotist rubber temple and he works with a hot water bottle on his feet. Most of the time. Mind kennedy kick things off heading. Hell avs thing you've got to now. You got to know the story behind. Samak the bible. Now we're going to find that out thing. But i think some a little bit afraid of dumps thinking like not bird person friends then used to eat the little shits. I was terrified them shitting on me. I should. We only had five to begin with but they breed like. Yeah we all here every single week. Talking about birds shitting on your head especially for cost. Great coaches and memberships. I owners to help make moc email marketing supposedly less of a numbers game and put the odds back in your favor with harder. Hitting higher converting psychology driven. Email moc rob guest today. April beverly one of these. Three things is true about him either. Her eight year old daughter critiqued. One of her presentations saying it wasn't emotional enough or basis. How good her emails on on whether her dog jumps up at her when she reads it out loud. All won't send an email unless a mum has checked the spelling and grammar. This is the hans diamond. I think the best one you've done making it hard to know which one of these is true. So i think that is the podcast. It's really at go to sleep. Everybody thinking face. I think that it's going to be the first one about the daughter. Critiquing one of our presentations. Because it wasn't a most able clubs you are close close. Yes one well. Johnny asked he got it right. I think that's like the third time in all the episodes bill. Check on the tally for me. Little check on the taliban me what actually happened. Well let me let me. First say i have a eight year olds stein. His name austin the great son. Okay maybe i missed that he did do it. So he's a mouth is hanging out we've been doing homeschool or you know. Covert nine hundred and all that stuff. So he's been hanging out with me and he reached over. My shoulder is like what are you are like you know swept. He doesn't ask mommy's working on. You need to change that right there. I don't i don't like that. That doesn't really talk to people and it doesn't have enough most like i talked to him all the time about writing with the motion even in the third grade. When mommy has right like teachers right saying where did he learn to right. So it's all about a most explain to them why you have to add your personality to the even though it needs to be english. Happy if you will so he did a critique on me. I was doing almost every day. You're gonna be the world's greatest copyright or one day isn't it. I sure hope so. You know they have the accolade things at the end of the year and voted both likely to run a fortune. Five hundred companies. I was like okay. What's amazing absolutely amazing limit. So we're gonna talk about this campaign. The i want all of the sales campaign. Tell us why this came from. What's what's the background on this campaign. The background of the campaign is that a lot of times i is. It is especially with women. So i've been hearing a lot of women online about how they don't wanna be sylvie aren't don't want to be too aggressive. And so i. I'm i'm gonna flip that i'm gonna call this campaign the i want all the sales campaign because that's what we want but a lot times we feel like saying it and actually eaten into existence is like we're being too much we're too much resented too much. We're trying to be too aggressive. I said we're gonna we're gonna put it all out there. Credit six to seven point e mail campaign that helps you get exactly what you say. He want okay. That was going how we need. All s were a bit afraid of it. Let's do it anyway. That's really june as before we get into this. It's a pretty damn good attitude to have any of our business. Lives are going. This is what a warm. This is what i'm afraid of. Let's do it anyway. Let's find a way of making that work and bringing those two worlds together. So when is this campaign to give some context when it's really useful. So when would you actually use this campaign so the so. The campaign is pretty good for both sales. So if you're like a sale for in the day you're doing a sale for like black friday anything like that where you want to quick cash injection. That's where this flash sale sequence comes into by because the emails are really sequential. Really makes sense. Relief takes your subscriber through the twists and turns of a story of purchasing from you like each e-mail weaves into the next versus having six or seven individual emails. I love are absolutely love that one of the things. That's really interesting. I don't think we need to wait until it's black friday. Orients what i you know. Some some thing somebody else invented. We can look at this a special day every year. Every day of the year is a now. You can look through and go. Oh it's national stand on one leg day. I was starting on one leg this morning for you can really do with the discount on this thing. Like you in all seriousness. If you if there's a day for what you just email day so if we want to do a a day flash sale we could choose. Oh it's national email day we're gonna launch. We're gonna launch this campaign or it could be that the campaign is gonna close on email day so you could link at twenty thing. It doesn't have to be one of the big ones. does it now. It doesn't it could be the sunny day sale designs. The sun is shining. Today is the sunny days sale. It doesn't have to be linked anything major. That's it's all about a cash injection. We need to start the international. I want all the sales day. So is this just to get some clarity on getting this hour. Is this something where you're going to open the car on. Sales are going to be available. The discounts going to start on that day or going gonna clues on that day. How do you tend to work this in the build up all the yes is actually going to open up with the announcement e so it's like sixty seven emails been very i e mail. Like you're you're cutting all the beats. This is what. I have available for you so you can do that. I email one way either. It can be an appreciation. Email where you're thanking people for being on your list and this that the third and then you tell them that you have something for them or it could be just what i have for you satellite. The do subject lines like what you asked or this is what i have for you because it pulled in that reader immediately unless some know that this isn't just Come get it because i won't sales since situation. It's or about them giving them the solution that they've been looking for this as they can get all the solutions. You want solutions. We're going to bring that together. It's great. I wouldn't bring them together. I love it okay. So i e mails going out daisy row off we go. This is the this is the solution. So what are the major points of the. Not just to summarize what what what do we go to achieve an email number one. So what do we have the chief in email number one is the start of the story so imagine like you're watching the tv show and you're like episode one of the of the series so episode. One email one is that build your either appreciating the folks tying them how you appreciate number your list and telling them connecting the dots on what you were bailable for them or just straight up an announcement. This is what i have for you. This is why. I have it so many people have an asking me. You've been looking for this. I know you've been looking for this. I thought now the perfect time to offer it to you. So you're giving the background on why you're actually offering this state central. You saw setting the stage. Show them the environment and all the things do opening scene setting up the characters. This way you are. This is where i am. This is what the problem okay awesome. Yeah love that and just to confirm es there is an ability to buy. Is there a buy button to smash in that particular email or you just teasing this email now. no sorry. there's there's not meet it all in that. There's there's definitely a baiba into smack in that first email. Okay okay cool so what happens next. How long do you wait before email number. Two of the six or seven number two goes out the the very next day and so email number two is light at all that club day. So club day is everybody's in line or the vip let so many people in your life. Hey is already a hundred people in here you by what's going on. You need to get in here. So number two agitating that. You're missing out by you. Want would be like. Oh my god. This is linda and so that. I email like you're connecting with people who are purchasing behind the scenes and they're emailing because they're excited like the actual title titled what you're offering these to be engaging enough to get folks excited about their purchase so typically you win we do this sequence for my clients and people are deeming us like. Oh my god thank you for and you're taking screen screenshot in putting in an email to so you're agitating that fear of missing out immediately so email number two is like uh oh tracy said she loves this. Michelle says she loves it. Sam said he loves this. I need to see this thing is all about so. That's what email to focuses on. I think you're interest though one of the things that's interesting is the fact. That's pulling a step that a lot of people kind of step that a lot of people would leave roy until the very end this whole thing that well if you don't hurry up you're going to at as people say normally that's pushed further down the road and that's really interesting to play all the way forward it's actually the second communication business emotionally fueled thing like the fomo thing is so strong for us all these none of us want to all right so and i love the fact as proof in it. It's not like hey a million people just join neo the want anyone who has an and you like maybe there's like he is all the screen shots of the person and the members area or the person he was like saying all the boxes and all that stuff. So there's like this proof all over the all over the shop. Which i'm lovin that's a. It's it's fomo with proof like that strong. So then what. How long do you wait between now and the next one the very next day. Okay so this all sequence is day to day like it runs all sixty seven days beautiful. Go day three is either so if on day mom you were able to pull those range from actual people or your screenshot was like you know something showing the number of sailors along those lines. Then that's fine so day three. You can do one of two things day. Three can be a check. My receipts email where you're giving folks background of you. What qualifies you. Dave wilson offer this particular thing more screenshots if people but testimonials or underlines of working with you period not of this particular offer. So you're building at your building that trust of your authority and email three so woman to it's pure emotion. It's excitement it's a missing. I'm outside the club. And i've i've heard the announcement of the big club. That's coming up. I'm pretending to be cool at this point. Everybody you know what a club is so. Dj whatever is called really cool dj. Name i've heard these play at this club. Also my stay one day to is. I see the huge line outside. I can hear the people inside day three years ago. And it's this. Dj any good there. You go you already. Yes yes and did they drop his receipts like yes. I'm good. let me tell you what i've been doing. So that's mallory. Hi flip and love it. Because at that point you europa coming up big objection of going because at that point. It's i always think of a sequence of a campaign is over next objection. The next objective wants and you just stuck in up the the objection handling and we're going that's okay for everybody else but does it worked for me and the way it worked for me. Works is is this person the right person to teach me and that's a really good to be handling number three and so you do that through. Credibility pieces testimonials all the testimonials and stuff Oldest credibility things in the email. Or do you link them out to a separate page. Which has those things on. So what. I advise my clients to do is do like maybe one or two screenshots. A really short. Who am i. Why useless to me but then say if you wanna see more click here and that's sales link with the full list of testimony. Elle's you can page at that point. Which i think really nice having a sales page each stap i mean. Let's just take that away for a second. I don't mean to be over dramatic. But wow that's awesome this idea of having a different sales page for each step which deals with that phase. I think is really really beautiful. Lavar love that very cool so now we move on email number full when what email number four is straight up. Faq's email number or is these are all the questions we've been getting. I know you have enjoying yet. Because we're obviously a joined off of the list. So these are the folks who were speaking directly to feel opening up the emails who are still engaging but for some strange reason and they had a smack the by yet so that means they got questions. They have concerns. They have questions we wanna make sure they'll be addressed those functions and this email is straight up no fluff. Faq's question number one. Answer question number to answer a question number three so what these questions are typically want to be as you know. Some of the most common questions will work for me. Those types of questions on what's the cause had as it were things like that but you wanna make sure you're crafting those responses in a way that engages them in pushes them to hop off. Either they're in or they're now but you want them to make the decision. Yeah it's kind of like the two didn't read equivalent of the sales pages. Now you're too lazy to read all the cop it in front of you so just i'll give you what you need to know exactly what you're doing all right lovely so next emails who've now addressed the frequently asked questions which will be hearing from people who are setting us support messages replies and all that sort of stuff as well as we know the reason the objections that they have directly had address them. So what's left. What's next so emails. Five and six are what i call nudge. Emails number five is going to be a very fun subject. Line of love doing songs on mike. A radio buff so it made the title of the subject line. Maybe bye bye bye. From extreme ball is or something along those lines so you like good music okay. Understand why bye-bye so so the line is going to be something along those lines or five four three two one letting them know that this is the last chance does recapping everything that they're about to miss out on making change your phrasing that in a way that they're missing out on it. So instead of listing out you xyz the email becomes. Are you really often miss out on. Abc his. I haven't seen your name on the list yet. So that emails a missing out type of way and then ema number six is much email happens two hours before the car is like that email goes. Dana's do use as a subject line as well. This is bananas me. I'm getting with wants to fuck. Okay so what are you use. What's the so of angle of last nudge. That last nut is very straightforward. It's two hours left. One hundred twenty minutes left. Hire you unafraid. It's straight out. You're about to miss out love to really short email. It's really direct. You've done this whole sequence right. You're going to get a ton of purchases in last email. Because they're like. Oh my god. It's not the clothes. I don't wanna miss this. Even though they six emails someone about that last night. It makes you say. Oh my god i can't miss this. I'm really interested to know what's your viewpoint on the gimmicky thing. So like a countdown timers. The stuff that really like visually pushes the urgency down timers. I know always use them. Because i just don't think they're necessary. I think they're nice to have so. I think if you have a listed really needs to seed counting now. But i feel like though the actual word that she put in the email can cover that so. I think the pound on email is a nice extra to have. I don't think is necessary. I don't use all the time. And i'm i really from a numbers perspective. I haven't seen my numbers increase or decrease versus using it or not boston. Think maybe the variety is something to be thinking about as well as if you're gonna do a flash sale once or twice a year if every time you do a sale. They're going to be like. Oh i'm gonna see that fancied countdown time people do become blind to that way. You want to use as a special effect almost done you to make. This is a kraken campaign. It's so different to the way that we do offline campaigns so thanks so much i think want to zoom next into subject line of the week subject line of the week your favorite subject line. We'll be great. So yeah why are we going for us. What you ask for really okay. Tell us up is my most effective subject my All the my like initial lead. Look for most of my initial lead madman's because there's just something about the what you ask for against people open it up because they're like. Well what did i ask for. It acts for something. And i don't know it's just a curiosity. Kills them to make someone open the email. So that's my by far favorite subject line. I share it with our clients because it works to to get that open. Rob is writing it as we speak. Because you can bet your bottom dollar that we were using that subject line of the week subject line of the week. I think it was picasso. Said the steelers. The exact still. Thanks space me anyway. So april this has been awesome for people who want to find out more about you which is going to be everybody and they want to come and get old Whatever we said it was all the things they asked full. Where do we go. Tell us what to go and find out more about you. Guys can find me on instagram facebook at a a b writing. That's at be writing. You can hit me on on on amazon as you can grab my book. Shots fired that c o that shots higher that co love shots five. Dot co fantastic. We'll put the links to all of those things in the show notes which you'll find over at a very email marketing show dot com slash mac. We did. They're very rare now. 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Episode 178: Broad Street Brokers (Guest - Ty Martin)

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50:58 min | 1 year ago

Episode 178: Broad Street Brokers (Guest - Ty Martin)

"Welcome to episode number one seventy eight broad street. Brokers this is the rotated views podcast with Jimmy Lee and the crew giving you life from various perspectives. Welcome to our level. We hope you enjoyed the views brought to you by the blessed lifestyle brand visit. Dl Three S. S. E. DOT COM to get bless also sponsored by the motivation fouls on leashed this motivational mixed your fuel for success available on all platforms. All all right. You were now tuned into the rotated views. PODCAST I am your host Jimmy Level as. I'm here with Manny. Gabe heck goose and tie. It's going on broad street brokers in this episode we have special guests tie Martin cover topics that range from sales and leasing tenant and landlord representation real estate estate investment multifamily dwellings and much more. We wrap the episode up with quotes from Michael Phelps and Babe Ruth guys for new. Thank you for joining us. Don't forget to download download and subscribe. Drop a new episode every Tuesday morning for your listening pleasure kicking things off tie. Thank you for joining us. Thanks for having you guys. I appreciate it absolutely all right. So let's jump right in Technically when this gets released it's going to be the first of twenty twenty love it absolutely fantastic task stuff. We are coming up on four years for the PODCASTS. Super excited to have you here And and those of us who do not know who you are what you do. Let us know. Yeah sure so tomorrow and from South Jersey I work for a firm called Wolf commercial real estate. WPRO basically sales associate On the side of that I'm the host of the broad street brokers podcast low. Pike as we do out of our Studio Slash Office and Sarah City Philadelphia. It's awesome all right. So explain your role all the broad street brokers podcast. And how did that all come about. Yeah so been podcast and for years I was just telling you guys before we got started started my parents basement so passionate mind just like you guys kind of hustle and into it kind of took that passion and when I started with the firm went to Jason Wolfe the head of the firm and basically said hey you know this is something I'm passionate about and I think we have an opportunity here with the connections you have and the business relationships you have to start interviewing some really interesting people about you know Philadelphia V. Business Philadelphia Real Estate. Whatever may be in you know? One thing led to another next on speaking with city councilman and entrepreneurs have serious names in the city south. Wow Wow that's awesome. It's crazy So you got started in your parents base so now was that because we we got started in my Home Office so I understand the crammed. Yes you know. We were sweating. Bullets hair for years actually wasn't the summertime was not good so with our equipment at the time. If we had the air on it would pick up that bag buzzing so we had to keep everything off and so it got really bad when we started started having guests and we had one guest in particular who was like a female might say that is because I felt so bad dripping with sweat and we were all in this room like dude. We've got to figure something else. But that's part of like the great story that this is now. I was telling you guys too. You know my parents where mine started like many people's People's careers with stuff. Oh I started a business rush but now it was one of those experiences where we were kind of figuring it out. I mean seriously throwing stuff at the wall and seeing what stock yeah and we basically went from recording and having just kind of low ceilings and open area there to. Hey let's hang up some blankets here and maybe that'll get rid of Samak Samachar whatever it may be and you kinda learn as you go to a point now where. I'm overlooking the city interviewing people and I can't believe where I get to record. Sure just like you. You guys are awesome. Barbershop and has recorded an awesome set upgrade equipment unbelievable mixer in front of me. But I'm sure you guys started with something very basic right the same as me. I mean we were sitting there with four laptops and six guys sitting in the basement looking at each other like all right. What are we going to talk about? It sounds like it's crazy. How goes man? It's crazy so you know it's all staffs in the progression and five years from now you remember when we were recording the barber shop our our school look back and kind of think about where you came from. So what was your first show with when you made the broad street brokers. How how'd that go? And you you know Mr Wolf himself would he think of it so it was funny man. It came with a lot of pressure. Not because like I felt like there was all these is only. It wasn't like that it was more more. I'm jumping into something new. My old podcasts was very like sports and comedy centric yes so to jump into talking about you know business. Millions of dollars author legal terms. And everything like that. It was definitely new water for me to threat So the first episode we interviewed Brad. Malaki he's a lawyer real estate attorney and I found myself right when we sat down getting really nervous. And that's something like I can't believe I'm saying that right now because I could talk. Anyone can talk to you. Guys never met any of you but a very very nervous right off the bat. Thank God. He's a talker at that. I'm going to send us in. Thank God I would have been dead in the water water. I really would have been you find. I'm sure you guys the same you find when you have someone that can really speak on. podcast you kind of let them go just as I am right. Yeah Yeah I was with Brad. He he really was generous enough to give me his time and we had no name at the time and to really give me an hour hour and and a half whatever it ended up being. I'm lucky to say that. He was my first guest and forever. If you go back into the archives that's the first episode so well thank you Brad. Very lucky to have him on so so. How many episodes have you recorded thus for so we just released episode twelve last week? We have We have episode thirteen in the bank. I can't say who it's worth yet but yet it's still pretty new really started to come on. I would say late summer early fall. It was a vision of mine since I started the firm last January about a year ago but with that came alive strategy. A lot of planning a lot. More sessions on the mics. Listen I thought I would have had with just talking about the business because I was learning the business as I was planning for the podcast so like you know. I started recording test. I episodes and Tesla trials in April but then in June I knew way more in April so mike throw those out because now I know about cap rates about cap rates ten months ago so yeah. We're still pretty new But it's starting the role so that's awesome so for every episode so just understand you have a guest. Oh Wow that is awesome so so you're starting out. I mean well you're not starting out because you you had a previous podcast but you. Yeah no that that's not easy. Yes so so I mean just just the you know super props to you guys because to have guests on a consistent basis guys see how much work there goes on in the background to make that happen and to not only that to have people like yourself relevant guest reshaped that bring you know something to the table right Because we all know there's there's a ton of people who may desire to be and I don't know if it's just right setup just yet you got to be an cooker a little bit longer But we don't necessarily turn people down we kind of just say it's coming. Well we do we do. We are booked out like month. Maybe two months out any awesome And we do record every week so By the time that that time comes it is happened. That person person was ready to rock and roll and we have fantastic guests. But you have you have to go with what your audience needs xactly. Yeah there's some of the about that because I think that there's definitely people we you want to have on the show or wants to come on the show and we basically have to hit it and for lack of a better term piven basically say yeah maybe maybe six months from now that makes makes more sense. Yeah or right now. We're really trying to get this person on and we had kind of a line for that slot and I hate to say this but if that doesn't work out absolutely now we're going to push you back until we're booked out but tell managing right like you guys are managing a show. I'm managing a show and you guys are all managing your own work. Lives and everything so yeah. It's a challenge for sure I would say and it doesn't get easier as you get more popular on honestly exact harder struggle with forget it. Yeah and I guess my question is do you have. Do you guys have like a set area. Do you set something up. I'm sure obviously your research on the guests but is there any other prep for the show that you need to do. So you might hate this. Your very you're very well prepared. I printed sheet as well. I am very very big on. I'll take the hard facts that most people would know. If you know who I'm talking to whoever it may be I'll take ten hard facts all then ask them about their life. If before that because most people won't know Yada Yada guest grew up in this town in Delaware and they had a hard upbringing. And that's where they got their drive. Whatever but from there I really elitist? I tried to discover while I'm in maybe that's a different strategy and there's no right or wrong so for me. I think that a lot of the time I I get my mind blown on the Mike with something that maybe other people knew already but for me. It's genuine because I really didn't know that about you. I didn't know that you close. Close this deal or down to your last dollar whatever it may be so. That's kind of how I approach it absolutely It's interesting every time I listen to new artists. We're kind kind of just talking about prior to the The show starting. We're talking about a megastar basically of our decade right the last decade. I say drake and We're talking about him and it's interesting when you know new artists come on you. Unfortunately this is like a very natural thing most people do is they take them for what that first song came out is right. And that's it it's either. You liked it out the window. You know what I mean or it's like or the radio plays it so many the times that grows on you. You know what I mean like all right I kinda like it. I guess but one of the biggest things that I've I've done When it comes to the music industry for at least the last ten years at least has been I need to listen to a bio or an interview of this person? I before I throw that out the window because sometimes the songs aren't even that great. It's their stuff that got them there. That's even better send like whatever that company in that label wanted to put out. I just not to talk too much about drake. But it's fresh my mind because I just listened to that interview. He talks about how his best work were. The mix tape life leading up to his first album as I had a lot of features but it wasn't his best work at all. Yeah and he even said like yeah. We got a lot of names but if anyone listened to me on that like they could've thrown me out the window like you said it's more about like finding that whole body of work to that point point and then you know whether you believe in you give it another shot. I mean after that for Drake for an example. See you know who's touched him in the last ten years absolutely you could have thrown them out whatever. Take care whatever it is. It's an it's cool to see someone be that reflective because sometimes you know when we first came out with this awesome. Yeah we're like our first couple episodes. Were not as awesome as out is is like what were we doing. I can't believe people downloaded this saying Until until later and that's that's us with like everything right I mean careers Our our our relationship lives or whatever is just something where it's like. Oh yeah I thought I was like the man X Y and Z. You Beg like you cringe. Oh motion Oh she's like oh my gosh what was I doing. We sat in my parents basement. And I thought that I was like wow podcast apple podcast APP and honestly the content was not good. That's why I mentioned mentioned the name of the old show. Don't even mention it. It's just not worth it but yeah that's exactly right. Yeah being self aware in that regard is very important because otherwise if you think you're great it doesn't really matter exactly because you're just going to stay the same plateau little whatever you got going on. It's true and and you know being this is that this is the first episode of Twenty Twenty all right. It's a perfect time for anyone listening to even just reflect back and I'm sure most of Y'all did on the last year twenty nine thousand nine. How when and how you can improve where you WANNA go with it all but at the same time the important lesson there is laugh at yourself a hundred dollars healthy way hundred percent right I'm all right so going back to the podcast. So what's the setup like is it you just individual or is it you and a couple other people yes so it's purely me. As far as from the wharfside we did Jason Wolfe on for one episode. I with Matt Strong because they actually worked together on the past a lot of good inside stories inside jokes. I guess there really were good for the podcast. Yeah for the most part though. It's me Kinda in your chair. Guest here guests there. Whatever makes more sense than the camera shot? Yeah skyscrapers ice scrapers behind us and the setup is beautiful. I am so lucky Definitely shout out to Mitch on my team for finding our office and identifying despite and giving us a subleased because as much as it's important for what we do day to day in the world having that for the podcast I mean it almost instantly validates you. Yeah I've talked to La bout the sound like you guys have unbelievable equipment. I think our equipment stellar as well sound is so important you can be a really really great interviewer and podcast host. If you have bad sounds insure your out the window right off the bat. We're doing video content if we had a white wall behind me. It's not. I think you guys would agree like you need that. That whatever whatever you WANNA call I hate the word by but that like aesthetic pleasing you know view behind you. There's a sunset sunrise. There's a plane whatever may be you like. It changes the whole feeling there so I'm lucky with that sure. Yeah I mean it really. Does it really sets up even in your office office. We had a little accoutrements like the little banners on kind of like. Give extra vibe. When we like the it was like the intro videos and stuff like that too? Yeah you have to Bull Sam qualities. What he's one thing and I remember there's this gentleman that I listened to a lot and he he he was always featured On these radio shows or PODCAST MR whatever it was these movies. He's very insightful On his history okay and it was history and like the financial history And I always find it fascinating that stuff always like. How are you know? Our economy was built whatever. He started his own podcast and the dude was coughing offense knees and everything underneath the sun and it had that buzzing noise within fifteen minutes his content was pure gold and I I could not stand to listen to it showing this I can't and what did I say to you leading up to this. I'm just getting over bronchitis and I texted him. I said listen man like because I do this just like you guys I'm like I just got my voice back yesterday after like all of Christmas is like so I wasn't gonNA come on visit for you. You don't want the guy with no voice so maybe maybe the conversation would have been great whatever but your listeners. Like it's just crap to them. You WanNa have good stuff for the people that are putting thirty thirty forty fifty sixty minutes into listening to you talk me through. It has to be quality from Mike's to the environment to everything else so absolutely by we. We suffer through. Dude the heat of sweating. We didn't want the fan in the background. The whole time or all the stuff. So that's our biggest challenge right now is we're in an office building where we don't control the Thermostat even if we control it in sweet like it'll turn on when it wants to and we'll be in the middle of an interview and you'll thank thank goodness Mike so good word because if not I I it would be so distracting to me. I didn't know we are good stuff I wouldn't be able to keep going for the most part doesn't pick up but I I know that that'll that is a good point though. That was the reason why we suffer in the heat but speaking of content content what. What kind of topics do you guys discuss on the podcast? So I hate to say it's around money but it is so much of it is about doc being hungry for money and then once you have that money what you do with it so I'll take rick formed for example Forman Mills. You guys all know form. Yeah this guy. was you know. He was at a flea market when he was I. Think like fifteen maybe even younger like buying T. shirts and then just standing up on the table selling going t shirts. so He'd buy them for a dollar apiece and then he's doing I don't know like two for three or four bucks. He's making like thirty cents on whatever it was he talks about like that hunger. And how like you never lose sight of that. So there's a lot of stories about that like the hunger that gets you to the next level becoming extremely success so sex successful become a multimillionaire and his case much more than that so alive. It's about that I try to keep it more to like. Hey you're successful. So how'd you get there. It ends up talk. We don't talk dollars and cents per se. But we do talk about you know the success that comes with money but what I love is almost every single one of the people I've had on the show talks about how that money is giving them the opportunity to give back whether it's to start their own company Michelle on she decided to start her own hundred percent. Women owned accounting firm. So well I'm a woman in business. I decide I get rich. I want to only hire you know. I only want to start a company with other women like that was. Her message was so important to me to hear that from her point of view. So it's a lot about building success making money but then using that money to create it. Make a difference really I love. Yeah that's awesome Art So thus far before we get into You know what you do outside of the podcast. I what what has been your most memorable moment or biggest learning lesson with the podcast. Yeah Man. That's actually a tough question ALAN DOT COM. He is. He's a civil city councilman now. He built a huge real estate company. I mean the biggest in the city. It's just been mind blowing me. I listened to that episode constantly. Let's all of our episodes back but Allen's message is so important because like we said you know I guess like once you hit that success giving back hearing his challenges about like okay. I have all of this money right and he never said it was just me like you know. It's elephant the room like yeah you have hearing him say. I need to make a change in the city. And how he ended up in government. Now now I think personally he'll be the next mayor Philadelphia just hearing that and the challenges that come with. There's some pressure there like it's like anyone else. I mean when you have some money people start looking to make a change and I'd say ninety percent people that have it don't but to hear his challenge that he's gone through and and what he's done for the city and how passionate. He is about the city he rips on me for not living in Philadelphia. He's Kinda got so to hear that. That's just been unbelievable. You know the Yeah that's also. Where can people go? And listen to the broach g brokers. Yeah you can listen to it on the apple podcasts at also spotify. This is the best best two ways to subscribe. Obviously we're on social media as well at broadsheet brokers on all your platforms facebook instagram linked in twitter. The whole nine but but I think that the best two ways to consume our content would be you know if you're a business person linked in We're constantly posting like little clips from videos and then obviously subscribing on on apple or spotify spotify absolutely so obviously. The podcast is a great way to build relationships. GET EXPOSURE Show the world kind of what you guys is our about. How in other forms have you help build relationships in Pennsylvania? Obviously you're coming from Jersey. But how have you helped build a relationships in PA FOR WC. I'm lucky enough. I sound like the quarterback right. If I have a great team do you know I mean year into the visist almost to the day at this point and and having great people around me has given me such an opportunity I mean walk into this business knowing absolutely nothing. Yeah One thing Jason will tell you and I think this is a lot of what our team is. I have a student athlete mentality. Which makes me understand people I think because I'm I'm used to being on a team that's helped me build relationships and I think that the thing that has helped me the most Personally is I love people stories yeah. I consume content. I love just talking to people and hearing everything about them like I know once we're done here I'm GonNa WanNa hear about all your guys background So for me and it's genuine. Doing it really is because I actually want to hear about whatever investors interested in one of my property stories or whatever you know family like down the street I told you I'm listening to property. I heard about the family story. And why they're selling that property. And then you're engraved in it so I think that's so important but it comes back to the team I'm on and we all have that. Same name mindset. We're all you know. Hey said but we are all student athletes for the most part we all do come from families care about them and we care about our families and I think that that's so so important when you care about the people around you of course when you meet new people out and business go care about them so I think that's really important so what is what do you think it is about out because this is not the first time we've heard this about the whole athlete or even a teacher. It's always like either the person to teach her. Were there a very good athlete on whatever team it was. What do you think it is about that? That breeds success. Almost there's that camaraderie that comes with being in a locker room or being in in a classroom or or even you know I want to also dial it a bit further to if you're involved in anything man yeah like if you're involved in anything you just have that cameraderie that you understand that the person next to you and you are in it together and then that might reach out to forty my lacrosse teammates or you know if you're a division one football team one hundred and ten people if you're in a classroom sir. Eighteen people. It doesn't matter but the whole point is that you're all in this together and that's just life. I hate to get like Super Dion. It really is just life when I'm talking to a a person about why they're selling a property like oh maybe something happened in your family. Now you guys have to sell it like it's just life so when you grow up caring about the people around you whether it's hey guys let's go win a national championship or you know hey class let's go crushes lesson plan. Whatever may be when you just care so much of it just comes back to you know? It's just being genuine honestly love it are also so explain for us your role for sales and leasing. Yeah so Being in a smaller shop we call it shops in the commercial real estate world. It's not companies to shop being a small shot. We have a lot of freedom so how we're lucky enough to take on any project. We run the gamut on any type of asset type so this would be considered a retail space. It could be retail office industrial medical. It doesn't matter and with that on the sale side we can help buyer sellers landlords tenants. That's the thing that's nice. I focus mostly the office for the most part and on the landlord side. So you know office owners are coming to myself my team Mitch Sean and saying like you know basically we have consi here help us lease it up and that sounds super super easy on paper. There's definitely challenges that come with that. Some offices aren't located in you know in the most desirable areas to go put a company. But we're basically out there trying to find tenants. Successfully finding tenants try. But Yeah we're out there you know calling on other brokers calling on companies and saying you know we have a great product here whatever it may be twelve thousand square feet and Bluebell. That might fit your company income. You Know Oh come on tour it. Basically well So so wh- What is the most challenging And do you have multiple listings within you know so I know I always pass by Especially when I did work in Jersey actually in the Marlton area I'll pull out and jump onto whatever main highway eh. And there's always buildings mainly for hotels and business owners. You WanNa be closer to the main highway because exits and you're closer closer to all access to those kinds of things so a lot of times you would see these buildings and say office space. Release Office for right whatever. Yeah and then I look up at the building and its location and I'm like this is an awful location like first of all you could barely see it. There's this monstrosity of trees is like right in front of it and so it's not facing the highway but it's an exit highway and it's right around this around the belt where you can only get there one way like and so when you see stuff like that how do you choose you know or or you. Just take them and it's just a harder pitch. That's it's so funny because if you ask me that January of last year McKee take everything. The poor now unlucky enough to build success with the guys to be a little. Oh Bit picky in that regard because we do care about crushing our projects. We don't WANNA just throw a sign up in fail. If we're if we're you know investing our time in owners you know potentially potentially picking us for listing. We want to succeed so we will be picky in that regard. Lucky enough you know being on the Philly team the team. It's a little bit different over here Jersey's a little bit more congested. Like that joke handles like you said mixed mixed some stuff really tough for those guys to this so Kudos to the team out there but but yeah we are picky now and I think that I think that all comes with building a little bit successor yourself like we had at the beginning that we had no means taking because they were insane. Projects are very hard cells and we were successful with hard work and definitely a little bit of lock. Anyone on my team would tell you that that but but yeah now. We're definitely picky. So we'll get some calls and say you know we might not be the the firm for this job and that being said nothing's impossible but you have to be a little picky in that regard absolutely. Yeah what do you like about handling when you say landlord how does that. How does that work working? What do you like about that so to say to speak really candidly on it? I I love talking to people that have a lot of money. Yeah and if you own an office building or you're part of an ownership group that has a holding of an office building like you have some money so I love talking to people that have built successor around success and and strategizing with them and then basically going improving myself because the way I see it on the you know no-name undrafted free agent that you guys brought in for a workout and I proved myself out there at that workout. And now you're bringing me on the field. Let's see what I can do and yeah and the guys can do with me so I think that that that ever challenging. Excitement is what keeps me going with it. But it's definitely scary. I live at the beginning. I remember the first two months and any person that's business will tell you that The first two months ago what am I doing. Why did I ever jump into us? Yeah and then you get by it so sure. We had a ton of real estate agents on here one of the one of the funniest. Or what am I most fun questions. I like to ask is Some are some of the people that you're showing homes to write. It's your clients and extremely picky and they're just like the one ruler. It was funny. Because he's a wh- wh- kills me. I know how much this person can spend. And we discussed how much they can spend but they still want to look at something. That's completely out of their league and so we start discussing. How do you talk someone? Down from that right How do you make it more realistic? Like we all dream big we all have. We all WanNa be uber successful in all but on your road to getting there you also have to be realistic. Hundred Percents So how do you talk to either clients or even yourself maybe To you also gotTa that'd be realistic like let's make this deal happen in a smaller scale and then maybe we'll level up on the next one. Yeah I think at the beginning especially I shop for the moon way too hard coming out of the gate to a point where like I said. Two months in I was like what am I doing like. I need to actually feed myself that and managing your expectations huge. But that being said the one thing that I'm learning if if you really do know your stuff which again I keep keep going back to it but the guys on this team with no so much especially Mitch. The Guy I work next to every single day. If you know your stuff you can go after anything in this business because it all comes down to a math problem yeah so for us we you know we do shoot high but some of our clients like you said the pay hang on the on the space on the property. We do have to have that conversation and it's never easy. Yeah Yeah for like even right now listening down the street. We've turned people away because six six hundred fifty thousand dollars for properties. A lot of money. It's a lot of money even if it's an investment bobby like you got to come up with you. Know it's a tough conversation definitely is but But on the flip side of that we're starting to have no fear in talking to an office owner about buying another twenty million dollar property operative next door or whatever it may be so it's really interesting. It's like that give and take of it Thank God for these guys. I mean otherwise. I don't know where I would be with this. It's amazing that you say that too because One of the realtors that we dealt with it it was like mind blowing Because she was first of all when me and my wife were buying our house we were first time home buyers and there's a lot of stuff that I thought I knew that I didn't know McCoy smokes. What are we doing? You know She just broke it down and some people have away with that right So I thought you know. Maybe she's just kind of catering to like new homebuyers and that and she's just really good at that And and I never forget she. She she said I'm on my way one time we're GonNa meet her at a house. I'm on my way from Philly and was very interesting t- to showing a home. I apologize for my tardiness. I'll be there. I'll make it up to you guys but I'll be there in twenty minutes our bet. She shows up She looks at the House. Gets into this house. It was like you guys don't want this. This is not what tells us right and then goes see. I like that you guys are students because Alaska so you know that lasts a house that just got an shown was a multimillion dollar home that I told my client to decline the buyer and select elect another buyer. WHO's giving them the same amount of money I gave the reasons why X Y and Z and I sold this house right and then came to us and she's GonNa make pennies if we bought this house and told us don't buy? This showed us the very next house we bought she told by we bought. And we've been there since and while we were signing papers. She was on her way back to affiliate to help a single mother by twenty five thousand dollar house in Philly awesome man so you see we were in the middle. There's someone on other side of that scale. I like whole and she was humble. She didn't boast about she was explaining her reasonings. And she's like this is the business I apologize but sometimes you get stuck with things like this. It was her having a banter with this guy trying to sell his property the wrong person. She didn't think this person is going to prove that the whole thing but yeah and so. It's pretty neat that you guys also do that. I I think real estate on any level residential commercial. It doesn't matter first of all the thing that's interesting about real estate. I it's everywhere you can't deny there's a house on every right I mean we're we're literally in real estate right now. My Dad has a quote. I'm going to butcher at something like byland not making any more but anyway yeah whether it's residential commercial like first of all it all comes back again to being a good person having ethics and everything like that but there is so many there are so many different. I guess like stories stories and pass and you know whether I'm in center city talking about officer out here talking about laundromat. It's two different stories but it's still real estate right right so it's so interesting. What gets me out of bed to do every day? You don't know what you're doing so it's like every single day it's just the Larry One of my coworkers said the other day that we're shooting from the hip but we're we're you know educated. Were tactful but we are shooting from the HIP coming out and we're we're rolling around and making stuff happening. Yeah so yeah that's a really cool story on your on your sure All right so so explain to the folks out there listening multifamily T- family dwellings. What's the important if someone wants to invest in that? What are the benefits? Explain how that would actually work. Yeah Yeah so a lot. A lot of people are familiar with grant Cardin and has an is probably familiar with him. So he's like the number one example of in your face like he's doing it doing it very quietly wiley but he's he's good multifamily dwellings to dumb it down to the littlest example would be a duplex to sued home right. So you have whether you're buying living on one side and running out the whatever it may be where we running up both of them it's investment property but you're getting two kinds of income on on one plot of land. A lot of people are interested in becoming a real estate investor and buying a single family home here single family home. They're single and hey a lot of people build success doing saying that but the multiplier is when you can buy a multifamily home whether that's two units four units two hundred units thousand units. That's when the multiplier comes into place place because you're on one piece of land one tax bill but you have all of those units bringing in money so you know you see people in Philadelphia doing it right and left right now Napa strong. Who came on my show unbelievable developing and multifamily owner? It's really one of the smartest in my mind and most lucrative ways invest because again real estate's not going anywhere if you find the right place to invest or if you can develop build it's you know you're you're creating savings account like you've never seen so that's that's kind of dumbing it down but that's what it is. Yeah absolutely I mean we we talked about. Ah My brother Goose You know he just moved into a new spot and across the street. It's it's a multi family dwelling that guy's crushing. I should've were counting the mailbox or six mailboxes. Because initially we thought there's four right and I was like holy smokes one on the other side and we saw someone grabbed me. I'm like this. Astute is crushing it. It's I'm telling you right now like to go back to even the laundromat siren above. It's a two bedroom apartment so even if you're going to own that right out. The laundromat ran out the body shop in the back. Now you have a residential above that like that's where the real money. Yes because that person's not going anywhere for the most. He had some people to call them. They go to the ten in there has been there for like twenty eight years pleat years twenty years of every single month. You know you're making X.. X dollars imagine. It's just it's beautiful and and if they moved out I I'm willing to bet that someone else in Bristol would come like you know. It's the smartest this way to invest. I think people that aren't familiar. Need to get on a few books if I can plug few books so rich Dad. Poor Dad is the best book I've ever read. I think in the syringe priority. Yeah he's the best I would say set for life. Scott Trench that speaks a lot about real estate investing and building that you you know I guess portfolio and the third one and I'm not one hundred percent sure name but you'll find it the book on House hacking or how. How House hack back? It's hard to say but but it comes down to if you're living somewhere. How can you make money on the space? You're living so whether you take on roommates or whatever but anyway I'm very passionate about talking to people that are interested in real estate investing and multifamily really is where the money's at So I'm I'm happy to answer that question because I'm passionate about all day and think about it too. I mean if you have somebody if you have renters that are that have that level resume resume that they've been paying or there for twenty years or whatever even ten fifteen years if you want to sell that multi family dwelling right you have a proven track record like this cell so now take that and we rolled out into the commercial world so multifamily I would say from a smaller arm should take that exact axiom example enrolled into an office right so you have national company a yeah whatever it may be and they've been with you for ten years in that office and they just signed another ten year police. If you're going to sell that building you can guarantee they're going to be there for another ten years or not going to run out of money. They're a national company. It's the same thing for that's bolt apply at times like Tangas. We're talking business installers. Not someone's salary. Yeah it's crazy so so you're you're from Jersey. What is the deal kidding so all right? So we'VE WE'VE HAD FAMILY IN JERSEY. We've worked multiple jobs in Jersey on while I'm very familiar with New Jersey right and one of the things I've noticed I don't know why just stands out out is like the dilapidated properties of like shopping centers. Why an across the street to building a brand new one? Can you explain that. So retail is the about the wild west right now so retail really as wild west you have companies like forever twenty one where I guarantee every person in this room if you've dated a girl. They've shopped there. I've bought forever twenty one gift cards and whatever multiple times over. So how's the store like that. Go Out of business or or you know go. Bankrupt retails just not what it used to be. And this is what every podcast talks about but Amazon and all these online retailers truly started to kill your mom and pop shops even some of your big businesses like a forever twenty one. So that's why you're seeing these retail centers. Just dying because tenants answer either not renewing their lease because they're out of money or they're just breaking their leases in the middle on a buyout. Whatever may be the new shopping centers? Your see you're seeing being they're going up or having different types of stores different types of types of uses so experience is a big thing. Now you'll see a shopping walmart used to be now. It's a go kart track. Yeah absolutely because now like maybe that Walmart wouldn't have lasted but you can get people to probably go out and have some fun riding around go-carts in that they literally that happen into us in our town where there's a path mark I don't have anyone who's pathmark Matt it was growing up in the ninety s was a massive supermarket. I mean massive like literally size of a Walmart Walmart. This was like a supermarket been shut down for years right. I don't know maybe ten years at policemen shut down for at least anyway. Long Story Louis. Short Funds Zillow bought it and fund Zilla is laser tag Go karts pitching batting. Shamny know sears has been closed for. I don't know a year or something now the the the other day the putting like a Dave and buster's type place. It's exactly. Yeah if I told you as five years ago that you know you're going to get together and and throw axes at a wall or you're going to go to an escape room you'd be like dude. What are you talking about it? But these are the old whatever store that came now an Accelerating place it's truly like and you're getting the the really really really smart entrepreneurs the savvy entrepreneurs going okay. That's based they need someone to come in and lease it. I'll get it for half as much as someone else leads to four. And here's my business idea. Take axes and throw them at a wall whereas the upfront costs is there maybe some why ability but right. Yeah what about the The classic absolutely classic. And you tell me what's what's the thinking behind this the temporary stores like your Your Halloween stores. They ran out this vacant. Whatever for whatever the three months so I'm not extremely familiar but I was just thinking about this? Obviously we're not that far removed from Halloween or even some Christmas pop up shops. You have to think. They're paying hangar premium. Yeah but then again you know it really depends on the deal because if that's basis vacant anyway we'll take someone in there for three months on the term. Usually you know obviously the longer you're in. The landlord likes that more but yeah you know. I'm perplexed by that as well You'll see today a little bit different than I guess. You know the the Gen not generations but the years past you'll see like a clothing store that's really online for the most part State and Liberty Jeans. Don't come in and throw a pop up store in for two the three months somewhere and see how it does it does well. They'll probably sign a longer lease because it's proven that they do. is they build their their stacks of cash online. And now let's make a jump rather than have all the upfront costs of having a store. I it's actually really smart. You know I'm actually really curious about that. And I've thought about that quite a bit. You know how much more is a spirit Halloween paying for the same space. Then I don't know if you put like a pier one imports. Yeah Yeah for sure. Yeah and what about hotels are you guys involved in any of that stuff me personally not as much the firm as far as selling what used to be a hotel or selling land for hotel. UCS honestly not something. I'm super super familiar to speak on. But that being said even that world changing because of AIRBNB. And let's say it's like jet jet something. It's like another another service just like AIRBNB. These services are coming in and now governments are fighting major cities. I believe the most recent ones. That just outlaw airbnb so imagine you you own twenty homes a year being being like your whole life just changed. Yes seriously you got to. You have to be a traditional real investor investor but yeah. I think that whole world's changing too so I'm trying to look for the next thing. Yeah that's just how like. I'm approaching at the teams approaching it so Hotels for me whether it's working on either side of the spectrum could be a little bit more nerve racking than industrial is extremely high right now like the Bristol industrial park down the streets on fire. I mean deals are getting down there And there's a bunch of interests there So so we're more. Geared towards those type of transactions transactions but hotels are certainly a big commercial transaction whenever happened so yeah for sure where. Where do you see the future right? So you're coming up on a year again. We talked about earlier With the PODCAST. You got going on the broad street brokers What do you want to look like? Yeah Twenty Twenty for me So me personally first of all I just want to beat what I did last year as far as a sales volume standpoint and that's so important and that's one thing Kevin one of your guests Seattle here our chief sales officer. He's so big on being better than you were yesterday last week last year. So that's the biggest from me but then with brushing brokers it's the have even bigger names we've had we had David Meltzer on me. I couldn't even believe them sitting across the sky but you know have bigger names have more impact packaged conversations. Bring more of the table on my end. Not just ask questions but bring some value back to them abstract some philly knowledge on them about real estate they may not know because right now live. It's me learn not the you know not that there's anything wrong with that but that's a gold mine But really twenty twenty. It's it's the take both those avenues whether it's my real estate real estate transactions actions or the podcast and just amplify them yeah and a lot of people say that every year like at the end of the year next year next year but like today I was sitting in the office office with a couple of our guys and you know we talk a lot and then we all get quiet and just looking around like the focus of the guys around me and I'm like yeah we're GONNA kill it. WE'RE GONNA kill it like you. Yeah this is the first year the Philly team in like maybe we made a one percent splash and like next year. I just see it just being like we have a couple of new guys. We just hired Phil Casa. I used to be Tony. Romo's center on the cowboys. He's on the team now. Like my one of my best friend. Sean just came on with us like we're ready to go and I was like all the fire my heart right now. I'm ready to just go out with these guys and just kill it. Yeah so that's also that's awesome all right so for all these folks that are listening Someone out there are saying. Wow that's a lot. There's a lot going on there but it's it's all positive it's all good. It's all forward thinking it's all in the right direction direction. It's all passion. It's all being consistent persistent everything you WanNa do. The goal setting being realistic and really set high expectations which to provide. I just saw the life that you guys want you deserve. How does one manage the classic question we ask everybody work life balance the number number one thing and I know people listening to this? They're going to roll their eyes. Make time to read books just read. Yeah I got away from that this year and it like literally is like a ticker in the back ahead makes me so mad because I was so focused on the new business. Yeah take that time. I literally built it into my schedule for twenty twenty like I i. I have scheduled out time to read. Because if you're not focused on bettering yourself you end up in just that like work work work work work and then when you have your life balance you just go above and beyond because you're like Oh this is my one night. Our everyone has enough time to work life. Whatever live yeah but but but also get better? Whether that's just bettering your mind in something that might apply a little bit to work or apply to personal finance or just read for a little bit of pleasure. Don't turn your remind off so much I think so many people do it like. I don't have a Netflix now. I don't have cable and then maybe that's like a little aggressive right like I watch my sports. I'll Hulu them with my roommates or whatever but I'm not saying they're like binge watching shows and numbing my brain because I think that's where people end up becoming kind of unhappy with themselves. It's like oh I worked so so hard but Saturday I watch twelve episodes of narcos. It's like yeah like hey you can listen. I'm not talking down anymore. If that's what truly makes you happy go watch two hundred episodes norcross. She'll care but the whole point is take your time in between working and and spending time with the people you love love to better yourself a little bit five percent ten percent like and I think reading is a great way to do that and for anyone that doesn't like reading because I used to hate it. Just pick a movie you liked and start by reading that book. Catch me if you can Leo. Leonardo DiCaprio was in it. That was the first book I read for Pleasure and now I read you know as much. That's possible that's awesome all right cool all right so last question before we jump Outta here. What's your recommendation? Anyone trying to cheat their investment goals through real estate investing. Okay Number One said Read Rich Dad Poor Dad and the works I mentioned set for life and Hell to house actor that House Aki And number two just joined bigger pockets DOT COM. It's basically like a facebook. For Real Estate Investors. There is an unlimited amount of knowledge on their people that are willing to help because because it's almost like a Like just another big team honestly because it's a bunch of people with the same goals a lot of it comes from like I hate my job world I want. I want to become financially free and leave my job and I stay away from the negativity of that. It's more I want to better my life and making more money might allow me to go do this. This join pockets consume their podcasts And just become a student of the game. I think that if you want you know success Jason Real estate than it needs to be something become obsessed with and alive comes with taking that first home that you buy and making it into a house act absolutely love. I also like what you just said there. You know the whole dream building thing but you know people put it in that little negative spin whereas like I hate my job is when it becomes financially and which th that could but instead of using air saying like that use that energy in a different way art so we like to wrap things up with quotes in the first one one is Bhai. Michael Phelps. There will always be obstacles. There will be doubters. There will be mistakes but with hard work there are no limits and the second one is by Babe Bruce. You just can't beat the person who never gives up broad street brokers in this episode we have Special Guest Tie Martin we cover topics that range from sales and leasing tenant and landlord representation real estate investment multifamily dwellings and much more wrapped the episode up with quotes by Michael Phelps and babe roof awesome guys. Thanks again for joining US rotated fused podcasts was producer self feldman purposes huge. Shout out to our sponsors. 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Episode #17: Why Your Story is Your Greatest Asset

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Episode #17: Why Your Story is Your Greatest Asset

"Like it or not you me and everyone else. We all have a relationship with money and for the most part, it's a complicated one. My Sean. Welcome. To the most hated effort podcast as a certified financial planner I wanNA take you on a journey as we throw out the technical finance books and shift our focused towards our minds, our money and what matters most if you're looking to improve your relationship with money and build true wealth, you're in the right spot finances fizz not need to be the most hated F word. I hope you enjoy this conversation with James Mac mcpartlin. For. The last three years Mac and myself have been talking about the power of story, the power of my store in power each other's story and I really hope you enjoy this conversation as we discuss why our stories are the greatest set that we have. But I. The most hated effort teaming up with junior achievement as we are putting on a four part virtual money and mindset conference. The theme is resilience from your minds to your wallet and it's taking place starting on November eighteenth and it will go for four weeks after November eighteenth an ending on December ninth every Wednesday at twelve noon mountain standard. We have eleven, amazing speakers, some entrepreneurs, some personal finance. All. Talking about resilience from your minds to your wallet. I promise you. This will be money well spent and at twenty dollars, taxes, eleven, speakers I'm sure you will enjoy the information. You can head over to the most hated F WORD DOT COM backslash events for more information. Hope to see you out. Welcome back to the most hated effort podcast today, I am extremely happy to have James Kevin McCartan Aka. Mack? Who is a mentor mind a friend of Mine and an overall wonderful human but I'm going to read Max Bio. So Mac is an executive coach author and keynote speaker. He is the founder of a training and consulting organization helping leaders and their teams access breakthrough performance to elevate business results a longtime student of the. Of Achievement Mac has over twenty five years of experience working with organizations to sustainably generate greater success, inspire innovation, and accelerate growth. He's worked with CEOS and executives in companies such as BANKAMERICA IBM, Espresso Kellogg's Dow Chemical, athletes I twenty four hour fitness, and the most hated effort got out that now. To transform to organization cultures into ones of enthusiastic dedication aligned collaboration, peak performance, and exceptional accomplishment magazine author of the critically acclaimed unopened gifts. A nontraditional business novel series aimed at helping leaders recognize how their personal issues and style contribute to their businesses challenges, and how to change them as an endurance athlete Mac is recorded nine ironman finishes. Already marathons leaving completed thirteen races in one year. His caution for sports and fitness has led him to work with many professional athletes and teams. Neri's of professional, Development Organization proven and helping them elevate their daily performance both on and off the field I. personally been fortunate enough to work with Knack for last three years and. Say. He's made a difference in my personal life with my kids, my wife myself and professional life. So Mac, it's true honor to have you on my show today. She only gives his mine friend. You're giving me time and you give me a chance to share some life lessons or at least the ones that I've come across in school to be. Thank. You, thank you. So Mac something we've talked a lot about is the power of story I'm introducing somebody WHO's an executive coach and talking about story on a finance podcast. So someone might be like, no. Let's talk about investments but not in an itself is a story that we tell ourselves should be on a finance podcast, but we've talked a lot about. The power of story and over the years I've realized how much of an impact our stories have on us an anti unconsciously at least for myself a unaware was that story so I want to quote and quote you might recognize because it's yours the most powerful story you'll ever tell about yourself is the story you kill to yourself. So again, that's the. Most powerful story, you'll ever tell about yourself is the story you tell to yourself Samak, why don't you share with us? What is your story hounded bring you to where you are now and then maybe transition into why you believe so much in the power of stories based on the people you've worked with in your life. Yeah. Thank you sean really appreciate. Then, you've obviously started with the simplest. So sounds simple amenities that are simple. Aren't easy. So I'm happy to tell you the story. So growing up Irish Catholic kid born in Brooklyn New York as south of you find our cat in what was bedded maybe much better than a child growing up is the story that I wasn't good enough that perhaps I was a mistake that was reinforced in a lot of. Ways when that is downloaded into a human being this case, beat me because the people in our life tell us that story will begin to blame it because the arteries and look for evidence to. Ended up in that story in adopted in our own story. So my story was that I was good nothing measure up and what? I. Sought to do over when I got a little bit older in life is to see if I can not run that story in thought that would be on the sports field is that would make my a in to get his attention was the field of business and I thought it was running toward something and didn't interns of accomplishment and doing things that you will never be able to do and I found out I was actually running from something in writing from that. Story was actually the real story, the ball and chain was you'll never met any good and come to find overtime that narrative s created for us happens in our use in it isn't until there's a setback or disruption hasn't look at the belief that we've adapted or adopted can somebody else lays out in how we talk to ourselves in howled in bed beliefs of our identity starts played out to the rest of our life of her another way. Many of us are driven by the voice of the seven and eight year old ally is going to be Nice estimate that I realized with. Somebody who was working coaching me is that's a story but there are many other stories available November had the courage to ask people about their life journey. I recognize that Lashley as the architect of that story. Any much of that screaming ridden for me that could actually take my pin in rewrite the script in practice new narrow news story just to see what the outcome when you always going back to the original. Thinking that wasn't really certainly invite could modify that is. True July find interrupting this. My story around many categories Fleiss. My health I won't be business message asked my entity, my view of money in other aspects of my life was all narrative that I created her adopted that was telling me or many cases limited be. Myself, I never knew that about you and you make a few things here. You said something that your stories is whether it's on the sports field or business. You're trying to outrun that story and made me think than directly towards money and often I see people get so focused on saving for retirement or trying to build up a business and you talked about that in. The sports field for yourself that didn't works we went to business and something I actually didn't know about you as you ran a company that was into the if I'm not mistaken hundred million dollars revenue, and if the sports story didn't work and say, we look at a money story I guess what made you change your not running that company anymore you've got to this level. Success in the money world two, hundred, million dollars of revenue and accompanies seems very successful but I'm assuming something happened jeers story because you're not doing that in. Mar.. Great they're right in our sessions. Yeah. You know I on that story Sean and expertise to play at store. Well, if fifty million, not enough Scott to be one, hundred, one, hundred, fifty dollars more in the recognition I ask myself enough people is we tend to do more of. Right would be a memorize eventually into consciously as behaviors even tell ourselves. We want to do something differently right it's mostly autopilot and I think we've got me as two things was fatigue of continuing to try to light a scoreboard mostly for others right trying to prove my worth to somebody else so that they would think I enough therefore, I validated by the Voice of another person as Anthony that. Truly, me. Wouldn't accept a so that was one point into the said, NFL. Finally developed the courage to get in front of people like you've had amazing stewed ask people around you mentoring coaching. And some people who had truth gene inside and they sat around me and these folks earn easily impressed guy he's. s story, and he's duty got could be asking yourself and I listened to these individuals looked at their lives and I saw what I hadn't seen in my own individuals who be quite successful in business and have fan and have health in had experiences. I was taught as conditionally was either or read a work in your family but they're center and that making money was arduous painful and it's difficult. Did Not many have it to stay as I was taught. I started to see through the examples of others who sat around the table with me that it was a different story is they certainly had a different story tonight. With the willingness to say okay I'M GONNA take my Superman Cape off. I'm going to take a look at the story in the identity aspect the nest story in one of the strongest forces in our lives is desired to remain consistent with who we think we are warm portly office who on other people's we are. And often that other people think we are expected getting outside validation had had me running in was simultaneous impact of fatigue in heaven these individuals around me at the right time Ciller in is another story will inversion you fall news yourself in learning the hardest person to get known I'm not his name in that magazine. Must. Journey go on. So you talked about staff and India reading your blogs, read about your concept identity theft and this brings me to now specifically around money because you've touched on a few things, fifty, nine, hundred fifty is not enough and I see this all the time with money in conversations in different articles that I see posted about how w income, how to triple your income how quadruple your income are how to build a profitable business. It's all these external things that are happening and I see very little. Conversations around our story what does money mean to ourselves in terms of money context? What do you think the risk is yourselves if we adopt these stories that I think you can correct me on identity depth maybe they're stealing our stories like these external things money wanting to get more achievement what impact you see happen on even your clients work with when they're living story that like you're not living the story that may be authentic to yourself and like how does money influence that from your perspective? Turnover with my my own experience value money outta understand money to money. What money means all I think key fundamental elements that your gifts to serve for us. I was never exposed to taught about it. It was a binary thing work money that's it, and you need the money to individuals were invisible. As sometimes can show itself right. May hurt. So when These how our conditioned or lack thereof of conditioned to look at it. So the story that I built was awful characters in my life story I adapt dot to believe some people in life in the Model I add who's we hear what we see the Model I adwa. As you just work and you work in you work you pay your ills navy do a couple things. This is difficult mankind do what you needed grateful for it. So the playback in my story was Doing that as Har-. Okay that's not do it. Then that's how I'll do it. Help are in. So what I went after was yes. I had passions around categories of life that I was in. Business. The same token, it was still business in over index everything into that cost me a lot of relationships marriage thousand model that was the story I read fourth look for evidence that okay. Way To accumulate into prove myself worth two other people was to accumulate and that means you have to work hard and what is not unusual is somebody has similar type store that they built. The great were no way is an money is an intention I am going dry far which fired accumulate yet stuff right? Maybe create security at those types of things. That has one impact behaves and actions over time I had been reminded of if that's the intention that I'm going to miss some the juices lines anytime loving family, my Elton appleby at earn realized what if money was an outcome? Worth money was built on the first intention what I found was a bill to life around work in squeeze life in around work at least some time this night night this weekend what I, the series of setbacks in life, which are the great lessons taught me. Is perhaps there's a different way maybe one on and decide how as a result of that money could be generated and was all story that shift in our was telling myself and then get around people who knew enough about category who could teach me the give it's nothing to be afraid of is your fear of the unknown what you don't know was going to scare you and the log rows going down the road of unknown my case in terms of our relationship with money I didn't. Know What I didn't know as long I kept accumulating lineup. Now, if you realize actions the identity I created for them would say, Hey, this guy's track coke. Feared that if I slowed down, the ASA cards would fall everybody was found out I wasn't good enough. Maybe that story I heard a child was accurate. I'd so interesting because like gin going back from your past and the company you have, you have everything you want. But yeah, that inner dialogue if it's not feeling you up are serving you well, it's dysfunctional and like you said, we look at so many people who think, God, they've gotTa figure out they've cracked the code and I think it's so toxic that we see on social media instagram that he's people are living these beautiful lives and adjust reinforces the how not good enough I am. For not having those things and I kind of want to dive into money stories in creating them before while it's in line with something you said here is through our work actually with me really getting challenged by the work, we've done to identify what my story is. I, realized that I disturbed I, start with what are my values and as a result I think something about this conversation in takeaway as through the work done with you recognizing my story might values I've come up with my own revised version of my money purpose or financial Y, which is to get more life out of my time, and now I use that as a lens to. Make financial decisions because it lines with my values. But you said something that just made the hair stand on my arms squeeze life around work, and I think that resonate so much with people is number condition. The story that we have is you work your nine to five and you got to squeeze as much as life around the perimeter and that's the way it is. But finding lost up, we've talked about his on the other side if you just think of things differently and you've done that leaving your company so my question now is going to core values. When we first started working I thought we had these dial in new my core values. Were and then when I actually was challenged, it talk about them I realized that Dan this is hard to actually sit and understand what are my core values. So maybe can you talk about the importance of the correlation between a core values and our money story in the context again with us your iceberg always talk about the iceberg. So I look at the tip of the iceberg is how we act like you've done but that's how we spend our money to a below the surface is the core values are so yeah. Maybe touch on how you see people best identified those core values and then creates an alignment with those actions above the iceberg. Happy to write illustrated's listeners I, have learned through Deboer. Got Myself Lot of study in science in early quest for understand any knowledge of what facilitates change in human being get them to go in the direction that they say they wanna go to be fully self expressed and so other learnings along the way is made his his house must often manifested for me maybe for those that are tune in himselves. So stress is a great example of. Way To look at things often if they're stress or anxiety or unease or disease showing up in somebody's life in, tend to limit on a circumstance or figure individual in while they may that outside in teammate trigger it off net outside him see his reflection of something that is inside of us. That's unsettled more. We wouldn't be able to recognize twenty outside of US bothering us less was inside us. He's a what I've seen over time. What happened to me? I was very instill in a different approach goeller on in this benchmark in this bank account in this automobile other stuff. I. Was Looking for those as the guiding light of my worth if you will wasn't looking for experiences working juice what made a day. Ashok before this FBI saint but once you get the thing is like the car in the driveway day after now It's not the greatest thing anymore. Right. So I had someone ask me one point in time is on somebody else is what's most important to you You stand for. What's a value to you got his down into now is if I saint anybody who's experiencing stress, not getting where they wanna go somebody's bothering them or whatever experience or interference to having their life last televise simple question very difficult to answer end the great majority by asked don't really have already answered. This criticism is not is an awareness. So then we'll say, okay ballistic look at what your is values are not people will throw out words that are altruistic and maybe have a good Gazar. Rain It could be love generosity. There are various things that sound value oriented. The ways, I see healthy in help myself is the camera question. You talk about a few times I'll follow you round camera for six months going for six months going backwards Maryland to tell me by study how you spend your time I'll know what's most important despite what your? Values are vert AIDS national thing. Soon, recognize what my values are by spending time questions, conversations, GEICO's seminars, and realized that I wasn't clear in what they were in often stress comes from a value, the violated but not even knowing what it is in blame me somebody else that discomfort I can give you an example what had become instill is at the top of my value. This is freedom. Now I didn't have a consciousness in a word for it at the time yet I was. Riding Tours. So as I got clear what it was, I started to see that I must be correlated freedom of money because it'll key stakeholders happy and keep employees happy drivers forward and will show me successful getting liberty that voice I'm running from as I started a piece it together and what I realized was yeah, it's not sustainable. This is not fulfilling its out. We're focuses its fulfiling the identity, one of the people to have anything of me in I realized that freedom was or. Actually, ten stress in my life, an starting to recognize that whole value freedom was under attack might be fringed on more time traveling outside of the country ahead, a relationship that I wasn't invested in my mistake and understanding the value loving relationship in these things were pulling energy from the United recognized horror at work the less freedom, my hat. A treadmill go faster on what's going on in my life, and so the pullback recognizable the top five highest values. Looked like on a movie set a screen. If you follow me around the camera, I came back to if I was to redefine in reconstruct my life strategy. These values and how I know when they're being up or how do I know when they're under attack one of the ways to sort of pressure test is the recognition of when a values under assault or as being violated I. Suppose someone in this example tells me that family is of their is valleys in that's very common one. That's great. Want to drill down as okay. Tell me what that looks like in behaviors and actions and measure that right and we don't have to get to that detail but you can see stress on person show up when they see the family value violated. Congruence and striving to pursue this in my career it means traveled. Family this commitment, he's out orders to provide for the family against families. The highest value in southern conflict you can see in the example I've seen it with people. In the time we could be inside of restaurants and. Time when the cigarette outdoor restaurant in someone could be exposed to conversation that there was conflict among stamina. Is With invaders shot, but one can chemically field if there's something in the space that's Nouri in the correlation in connection Esi will someone in the vicinity of their highest under high-value violated by something going on asa at. All. So I began to get very focused on west of expression of values that fuels y s quest life assignment. To accumulate things perhaps too enough to be able to allocate. Give out into give back right at self-fulfilling. We all life that you don't get anything. Give anything away unless your own right and I had body understand live it. To share with others lucky to beat a time to do in our relationship. He how much in there I really appreciate you sharing that in a few things I actually want to go back and talk about I I got a comment but maybe can you just define for people who don't note incongruent or your values are incongruent sure pass. Simple in for your viewers or listeners for many. Symbol, it's very normal common in maybe will use goal setting our new year's resolutions for those of us that language. In the most are I, believe will know what they do I can someone says, Hey. Fitness Morgan, and what should I do I? Think most people had a pretty good idea. Not to the eating nap on gets an exercise was the best exercise I it was the one he'll will do. I think we know. Congruency when I tell myself, I'm GONNA. Do. Because I know by wanted A. Good for me. Maybe it's a little bit certainly sounds good account, and then as time goes by, I don't do it and I give myself an excuse and I let myself up over periods of time of that behavior. We may not vocalise others goal driven and admission a resolution because we don't want to be held to in the event only give ourselves out and so I'll make a promise to myself won't tell anybody else. I'll break that promise I won't think it's that bad but we'll find his unholy others, higher standards, old myself. Environment you send. You'RE GONNA, get this. Wow. That about this? is a mirror reflection and it doesn't mean that person doesn't need the accountable but really it's refreshing in mind doing things I said I was going to do my insistence. So the incongruence is if you draw a line from the top of your forehead in the middle straight down right to your connected feet, that would be a lie that you'd be congruent station. is where my head I tell somebody tell myself something but my feet going outs, Iraqi some Atalanta in it causes stress I use the word stress earlier out the another recognition or manifestations stress is not doing something myself I was going to and then story up about stories I. Tell You I am the dog ate my homework knows mark raining bring in the animals Right and we do to ourselves by Morona course. And you know since we've been talking about incongruence on our conversations, it's really really made me think of the incredible correlation which of course makes sense though is with personal finance or I just feel like so many and I speak from experience I thought like you talk right thought does where my core values but I wasn't really and discontent I had was around me acting incongruent And Freedom you talked to freedom and for me. Yeah. Freedom was like I'm a financial planner I got to save I. Mean this story is telling myself as you got to save you gotta be like saving up and you're good financial planner when your counselor big and impressive when I started thinking like Oh Jeez I have a foreign wanting half year old like I have the kids love me to death right now and like this is great. Why am I creating life outside of work to fit them in and Mike? That's freedom right now I started seeing shirts not in the sense. Of retiring at sixty five but I really started to see that my Ukrainian heritage of farming in Alberta. Really got me thinking about I. got to say if I got to save I got to save and then I truly value time with family and that was in with me and thanks to the work that we've been doing I've been able to get more clarity and kind of get my spending in alignment and not something. I see all the time is that people are buying these things telling themselves that story that I need this it'll be happy but I think the missing part. Is that non-alignment between spending and what actually makes me happy and it's so interesting you talk about like the employer perspective of if they're not doing something but then they get hyperfocused mentor staff not doing that and I've seen that with couple like one couple of around money like one spouse is GonNa get so upset with the other one because they're not doing something but deep down, they're not doing it and is that reflection so I've been thinking this is a good idea. You talk about the camera walking around an interest in your thoughts if I see spending credit card bank account. I can make an interpretation of what they value based on what they spend. Do you think there's some value in someone trying to sit down go through but their values are and in doing that Exercise Porno, the credit card and just analyzing how much of their credit cards swipes are feeding value just to determine if are incongruent or not, and I, guess that might bring up emotion say someone does that they're listening to like I'm going to do that. What would you suggest they do are be prepared for when they start probably getting resistance emotions it might not be used to deal with. Great question, several lance three. No good men look. Right, it's it's ashes coming through. I would offer this. So I could only imagine just chill with my own experience in someone would say, look good I'm looking at your credit cards wires no nipping at your bank account looking at you no way you're spending your money, you tell me when you're doing that. I'm not sure that's the best approach for people. Like you said, you wanted to be your out here in the bakery you're arming steak dot it's not people intellectually don't get right every we do have come to believe over time do because it gives a bath. In his crazy that sounds in behaviors that we might. As destructive I think the example I shared with you. Dad was heavy smokers tobacco business in the intensity of chain smoking could. Have come to believe in that category. That's cigarette was his break. His deep reading is version of meditation is a stand for things that he did because the. Say Stop, I, Dunno something away from the. Worth. Considering here is all behavior is believed driven. So while I might Arkansas. About their behavior this is the. Did you to take Ciller back of their conversation around resolutions, our goals what tends to get. About, fifteen eighteen, th of January. Terms of new years is the underlying story in not that goes with it is a guy haven't done this before really believe I can do this. Inches, subtle internal voice, and finally says, it doesn't feel normal I wanna go back to feeling good I'll start again. We tomorrow if you feel that back and I'm just going to give you mine version. As, applying to me as I recognize in Miami, Titus. Back into really the purpose of this conversation around my story around money was play back that voice I got inserted in child. You're not good enough. You're not worried about anything. So boom self worth. So whether it was fifteen, hundred, hundred, fifty, two, hundred, it doesn't matter because I have to prove to some entity. Still my father people in the community that. I'm going to APP to if he's not biased automobile chaplains planning is that will then demonstrate to others that I'm worthy but deep down. I, didn't believe it. So never enough you never throw enough locks on that fire. In. What I've come to understand in this is just mind version of. Your for your listeners pull from when at Orland down I'm going to be very respectful but I have only step by the quest to develop financial wherewithal strengthened understanding to build a plan. The thousands and thousands and thousands of people have done it. To repeatable skills. Simplifying. But it applies to every area of our life fitness relation media language learning right are models out there. People have done it before what prevented me from this category understanding it was fear of war to fight validates that not really good enough that I'm not smart enough I don't know really what to do. So by keep lighting scoreboard I, don't have to face it. In people will believe it therefore valued and hey, I figured it out. But the you ask you ask fatigue sets in eventually will plan got here depending on where you want go. On. Their. Self worth in the belief than light was the the ice for. Recognize while I have to is believed in repeated day-to-day out today out in the off for four years in on going to change it I'm up against forty years and memorized associations who I am. The world is so no one around me get tired within two weeks is to forty years. So I didn't understand that had a bill rates right? Like going to the gym. You don't know that workout you look in the mirror after that workout work. Anymore But if I late. On Habits. Likely will give me the result on the before you made me think of a guest I had he was a musician from Hawaii who lives and travels the world and plays guitar and really money's not a big part of his life but he's the happiest guy. But we're talking about like you were talking about the Southworth in the company and building it up and this was just as Cova was happening and he's like she said actually sing a song and in the lyrics was like something about the danger of the rat race crippling. Yourself worth in the rat race and when it crumbles down like what are you have left and I thought was so powerful and kind of in line with what you're saying is like if I'm running from that and putting everything I have to build that for that validation. What happens when the company goes away what do I have left I'm looking at the time here. So you mentioned about the habits and Oh, before that I got a quote. Sorry you're quote on values I don't know if. There's any more you want to add to it but I really liked this quote and I want to share it with listeners but our lives demonstrate what matters to us most life doesn't lie what we placed. The highest value on is what our life will reveal and I just don't want always sinks in with me and I don't know if there's any additional comments you WANNA have around just power values in you're talking about. Yeah. Thank you, Sean. Some says here's when she said winds firstly I. Yeah. Yeah. So it was this way I think I was completed grooming trumpet. If I like you in some ways hopefully you're asking you're listening to student here for this cast is no stop a little bit. You don't take either take a look around where I think all of us are heading someplace lease overhangs place. Sometimes place gets pretty fuzzy in day to day activity, Zeta Grind of life and yet reviewer health kind of work that you do actually get clear on the destination writers who I WANNA be in two years from now in what I've found is the paradox in my life was I could get really clear what I was trying to get to what was clear was really wearing my study from. So I kept in back up the same spot in a bit of this discussion may be helpful is but I think you're asking people is to take a hard look at life. Yes. Money piece in the headed F word right in and having finished film is a part of it with their main parts of it. In. The senior I find most valuable reinforced to your language is to know where on starting from the older plan not to feel bad about it. Feel. SORTA like being a year for those days, we could go to your right and making sure you're reading from the right gate. Get to want to get on the student departure. So the understanding of oneself to par that. Archer Gate is back. Your values based rushing is if I want to know what you are I am somebody is truly committed to the. Let me spend a couple of days. You get these words. I'll see your environment I'll see you around if that works back. Language choice of words results your outcomes and I'll see the conditions of the game of your life that will tell me everything I need to know about which committed to that you may want to individual they want to make is I wanted to argue and defend justify you just is what it is. If I recognize that what shows my life today is everything on committed to let us daunting the same token. It makes me responsible if I'm responsible I can do something about if I blamed something outside of me or my boss jobs fire. Than I become of. Our Way. So the value side of things helped me understand what's the most informed me early gifts have been given the highest expression of what I believe. Is are at this stage of my life may evolve. How do I bring that forward in not put the opinions of other people at my own. And that's hard is simple as I hope to make that sounds. Is Complicated he's a lot of rest right you're not working on this for a couple years. It takes wraps down in in in that work we do together value from me. Is I. Get to make sure repeating my old lessons. Right. Do you think might reaching humour keys to be our learning from you right in order to bring my last four would you? Attached on and what I'm very close men more learn more arrests don't know. Oh that one is true for me. With the values thing I honestly think after ten years being in the financial industry and doing a lot of ten calendar years. But the amount of reading and research designations that have accumulated have always pointed me towards teach people how to invest more money teach people how to spend less money each people how to save more pay down. Well, that's can always in there which should be but I honestly feel like the most important thing around our money is our money or like a relationship with ourselves and money. Relationship in the story where we're talking both which I feel as created by identifying those core values yet, we never talk about like financial planning one. Oh One, understand your life story and your core values and create life around that. Spend your money around that and I just think again I thank you for the work you've been doing because that's been able to change my perspective one hundred percent and it seems strange that the first conversation I want to have with people now is like, what is your story what? Are Your value, and then we can talk about the money side after. But really I've learned is when I know what my core values are and what I really liked to do saving some money and spending some money on. It is a lot easier when it's congruent and so the work we've done you've heard me talk about the most F. Word for three years finally being launched i. just thank you because a lot of not a lot pretty much ninety, nine point, nine percent of the few you provided. Me When I put my values in line is what I want to share. So again, I just come closer to the end I just WANNA. Thank you for your work, but I do WANNA touch on your perspective on habits. So we've kind of talked this conversation about was talking about this money purpose. So I really think it starts with understanding what is your life story making sense that story something that you desire is an alignment or congruent with your core values after we identify but then when we're going through This speak to the power of habits and your perspective on habits in importance or non importance of them. Yeah. Sure only give you might journey on it. So you and I've talked about this a few times there are two people to look out for in life. If you look out for these people in, you give diligent thoughts them you're looking pretty special two people are current self in your future self. Now, today is the future that we have lived into virtual. What we've done we have done leading up to today. Actions conversations behaviors only arrived to into it. If we step on the gas pedal, we have a default future. Based on the guiding light in our life, and these are ads under daily behaviors that predictably, we can save other year three years. Five years based on how I've seen this individual in south league, their lives. I can probably forecast than a reasonable margin what level. It's not bad being necessarily good thing. It's just a pain. And this. I get really clear on what I'm trying to get to remind myself certainly all arise but it might be a little bit than I originally thought it would be what I thought about it year ago or two years ago or five years ago. So today is the result of very habit practicing until today. And there is a reinforcement of my s if I am healthy. Is the cabinet feel knowledgeable and educate. Organon had its in out the dog alison feeding well, my marriage relationship to announce a so. Out Two years, let's go two years and stuff yourself do from the perspective of the Moonshot. Of You, who can remember that star of? The? Individual on the same that drove that compensation for with then president of the United States was added individual state to the president. Kennedy time. Been told Time and time and time again, his advisors, you can't tell you. Can say to the country, you can't say this world will embarrassed when very wise than who came from it country got an audience with resident said President you couldn't expect anything different people. Are you never been to the moon happen? They tell you how to get there. He's in strong. Earth is, is you go out to the moon fly out their stand on backwards is if you look to the move from Earth, there's a long degree. There's a lot of interference of. Chaos. There's a lot of obstacles. Here's a lot way, but if you fly to the moon in the backwards. So, then you have to ask yourself a series of questions and Mike Your version myself where I want to be two years from now look at it today man this of up into way I'm busy at. Work Environments went on stand out there in the back. Okay. This is my one be if I take care of this current version of myself. Now encouraged him or her to do one thing today because if I want to guess year is a series of actions and behaviors in the case of the Kennedy had I get your station on Acura Kinda station workers. Parachute income need food, and then you were backwards. Or any two days. Standpoint. I wanted to come knowledgeable language or in finance startup podcasts is. Discouraged we're not at an offer median realize how far behind him or I say here's one thing. I can integrate Internet current busy life as repeatable pattern that may take ten minutes. It may take twenty minutes that if I did it overtimes much like exercise. After. That is all right. So again, backwards at my former self leather distinction between my former self in my current south hopefully isn't prevent were repeated the same habits for another year or So the. Things is by APP to think of the. Meditate. Exercise. There is something I need to do not twelve hours a day exercise not twelve hours a day. Twelve hours a day studying money's not twelve hours. A day is twenty minutes here thirty minutes here in there's fifteen minutes here and I track it, write it down on the check off naked visible. So one can stack victories and again it's much like the exercise thing. Workout or don't have work out that day look the same in the mirror. But it's the impact of what I do. Don't do this going to give me item to the moon just shooting on earth. So it's controlling the controls. So I pull back and say one thing I can do with consistency day in day out day in the huge impact me. I've known. In its practice. To It is if the person is thirty, five, forty years old, we're surrounded by people we trained to see us a certain way. So I'm in an environment where certain people have come to know me start way when I seek to make a change I'm gonNA become inspired the most people around me aren't really going to say it during address me as they know me, I'm intentionally they're likely going to be holding gone in the northeastern United States is is the trying out a crab bucket were? Back That loan. So if I want to shift subtle shifts, Ashby wise introduced that shifts to somebody I trust and say Sean renewed again. Now, fitness program going to help me then you are going to say, yes what do you is here's how I would like you to help me neither quick likely said yesterday I tell you what to do very. Every Friday send the attacks one to ten. So I know going to check in on me s my accountability I WANNA do down. Let me. Down and I'm GONNA practice not gonNA worry about perfect I'm just going three times. This week is lot one time last week and keep data maybe fourth and not try something different. So the damage behaviors got me here show me my. Show behaviors and action right days So I know from my perspective Asante, awesome values each and every day. Now we'll get to be the person I WANNA be may exercise. It's reading Tation, as growth. In children that I can't keep my head ground ACRES MAKITA MAY ALLUSIVE EDSA trouble file. Cabinet. Visual neurologically makes difference of a paper just stick. Your Days Life Miniature has always stuck with me and just to something to your point in an over coming to our time here. But about that accountability partner with changing and building those habits in I. Love the exercise analogy because I know everyone is done this they've worked out if taking their shirt off and good flex in the mirror like wait can I notice anything and it's not there right away but I know when I signed up for my first full Ironman today my second daughter was born wasn't the ideal time to do an ironman but remember many conversations with you about dues training every Day every day and sure enough a little bit of training not that much I was able to complete it. But along that way, I'd so many people question to your point. Are you doing an iron man why are you doing an iron man you two young kids and you know what my values health and that was a way for me to live to that core value but also families another core value of mine and it may be not work past five o'clock for the entire year and I spent more time with my family but again, I don't mean to keep coming back to this but it's A big part of who I am now is conversations with yourself Sarah near team about like Oh. This is what happening I'm questioning this right thing and it's I guess it's the crabs on on end. So I think that's an important thing when we talk about training like are changing her financial systems that were used your question at stories that there's going to be crabs at pull, it might be ourselves, and because that this work is harder than trying to save more but I think it's just so important because they give you taught me this is my life story and something that you've said to me. That just infiltrates my soul is when my kids are older and they're gonNA call me on stage, how are they going to introduce me and that has just been another like one of the biggest personal finance tips I've ever had and it has nothing to do with money but has everything to do with life and for me and most of the people I deal with life is not about accumulating money sure helps to facilitate purchases but first and foremost it's sad it's life. That's important. So thank you for today's conversation extra got more out of it than you did not seem to be listening to you. So I call this, the most hated effort, what do you think is creating this hated effort finances why do we run from finances? So why do you think we have this most hated effort and it doesn't have to f word that you respond. You. Look. Like what you re shift question you do it through my lens registered. Tell myself about what it is. You know if I look at sort of. North America that we are a hierarchy of Ernie income richest one percent right new. Now want life name. There's another warrenpoint beyond that. Beijing lives yet further down to the majority of the ovulation that will have to be continuing work or eliminate financial means, and so we are often or my own experience has been that man is really hard to crack into that these special greed they've got something I don't have there's a road adamy that's going to be difficult. Maybe we'll be filming dreams. Aspirations. Ariel still get. There's an association that value of human beings associated worthy fit on hierarchy of earnings and. Hated, the essence of that maybe answer reflection who I thought I was going to be in round of the Roman might wind up. Of How people see me freight under the how people see me in therefore founding a cell for debt-free or resource desk? Times. Because I don't want four more salt into the wound of myself work astor comes to me from my version of how I hated the F., word. Just making it no here. Thank you. Now this is probably hard question just because you're so well read certainly in the I'm GonNa link to your books on open gifts. It could be your gifts but in alignment with our conversation, is there book that you would recommend based on the concepts we were talking about today and certainly your books are what we're talking about. Yeah. So great question recently, I was asked what time in my response to the earthquake was on personally reading is what West ass. From a shelf. I think there's you pricing L. House north. Continues to change certain cleans the library. Very. Sparse or home. It's a great question Depended on sort of the profile individual entire learner that the individual is a book for me might be a podcast for somebody else offer somebody might be actually a course somebody remand need a one on one staff. So for somebody who values the story in terms of where to pull lessons from I wrote unhooking gifts first version second version now on the third version to tell a story of individual. Ever in suits, we call brass ring right the gold uses everything the ad because he didn't realize how much. in that story out I'll share out is. Not Book. Sale. But If there's visual on our guest today from his zero listening to me man a large water bottle spartan water right left right in the bottle cap. I looked at my life day in day out day in day out bottle that was in my left hand that was always still north flowing with what was wrong while was working what I didn't ask in the more I focused on it the more over the. Which side of the thimble was too great for. Much time I did see too much room ruined rush in there because this one on my last time was overwhelming. I was taught. The hard way is lessons come that I can reverse. My hand is how I saw things was up to me and I can practice getting reps in filling the car. Recognizing that I would say this happens more often than not John The saints people have told themselves that they want for their life. So the most part they already have one at home now and a family wanted to create along experience -cations, Navy. The roof has got raised in terms of now that looks like but for the most part we've got exactly what we focused in what we said what? So Mike Story of of writing about his character was for him going through the journey. She's a bit of my story focusing on I didn't have as opposed to what I had searching for more of it. Missing juice relationships. Experiences is the quest was keep moving on. It's gotta be something else next next next validate my worth and I missed things malicious game by text I was very fit but I wasn't very healthy dose in Chris. So stories I think are great in that day the individual whole from that story wherever they are there also how to write. List you know link. Where that I it is I don't want to interrupt you but all that story gave again this is like the second or third goosebumps. Pursuit of money problem your bottle bottle analogy is that really and this is what I would be wrapping my head around with this idea. The most hated effort is that it's all in her mind like you said, we have what we need right now and I'm thinking here is a financial planner or so guilty of giving projections to people showing the massive disparity gap between like Oh you if you want to retire, here's what you need. I'm going to shame you for probably unintentionally. But shame you for being like you don't have near enough money. You had heart start saving instantly. Then we go into scarcity mode and don't enjoy what we have right now. So I actually think some financial planners we have big responsibility in perpetuating that feeling of not having enough right now or looking just at a grateful the small bottle cap green point and you may I'm sure it's like any group trying to help the person get where they want to go an unintended outcomes. Making, me feel bad for where I am right in wouldn't put that on the Anorak coach. Much mind. The world maybe that validates night in my insecurities by listen to that as you say that one of the great things that I think I spent time on in will continue if only for my benefit. A great part of climbing mastery mountain right in life, which is non without a top you never get. They're always planning is to be able to be with wherever you are any relationship with any situation to be with it as it is and as isn't without a need to change anything at the time that you're in it out doesn't mean there's not aspirations, roles me something that gives us juice in yet in my case, if I'm running towards something therefore running away from something a missing experiences. Time was back. In so perhaps as you described that at the value in sharing with someone in Los Angeles, take a look. Switch you bottle to the hand. Got Doesn't. You don't want more doesn't need on need more. Okay. It's a look. There's a lot to be grateful for here in matrixed wheelhouse still. A struggle through yet if I talked to someone about the abundance in. End Slowdown long enough a yeah. There's chaos watch the news now, the social media what's going on quarantine? Oh. Yeah. I. Focused stance pause long enough, and if you give you any of my children fresh warm air outside your California, right? How far that come from that former self in what I truly have to be grateful for the gift of this conversation with you allow my forgive myself permission to do that data is full filling now maybe later on these tomorrow, the only time I have this now that has gone. So You have a good foreign certainly speaks to me. Honestly Mac. Thank you that statement answered my next question and because I'm wrapping up. So I'm GONNA use that as an answer but I just every time I hear you talk it just fills me with energy and joy, and I just appreciate your insight so so much and all of our conversation Shirley minute we talked about money but I think again like I said earlier, we talked so much about being present in our lives, which is the outcome back to your idea of making money company money can be the outcome but living life is important. They'll come is the money that helps us facilitate it but if we miss the living part I don't know what the opportunity costs as a financial term is, but that's huge to miss. Ten Years of my say thirties from thirty to forty. There's no way to quantify that number of Naxi not living in mind with with your values, but as mastercard is that's priceless. So I think this conversation is much needed in the personal finance space I. Think I need to do more of these conversations and thank you so much for spending the time in Venice an extra twelve minutes of your time. I will. I. Would like you to point people towards your website and where they can find copies of your book and I say this from. Personal experience. My staff working with Max team is legitimately changed my life. So thanks MAC and working people find more boat you your books and any other information about union team. Yeah. Thank you, Sean Great Gift Your time the portal, which day is link would be through the website to access that this goes out to your listeners in yours. It's my full name James? Cartland. James Mc Parma's MCP a RT L. A. N. D. James Dot com, you can also get through. SESS DASH performance nexus performances recognizing. Chances may have acid in sino-us whatever we want. We have the courage to look in. Access. Dash Performance James. THAN DOT COM, there's on their there are resources, videos, articles, kindness you'd mention about our in. May what you do in Sean for your plants or she's off gas for have to do it. Now, what would you stand for our thanks so much Mac I really really appreciate it and we'll definitely be chatting soon. We're seeing. Take your. Thank you. Every time I have the opportunity to talk with Mac I get inspired. He makes me feel so good and one thing that. Really does well is he allows us to access are an open gift and that's the name of his book, but it's very fitting because I feel like macktaz such tremendous job in doing so. Here are my three main takeaways for the show number one, the power of a story. Yes. Our story is our greatest financial acid. It really is, but we needed to ask ourselves what stories retelling ourselves. We all have these internal narratives that are running on autopilot that for the most part we don't even realize they're happening, but the impact will think feel about money and ourselves and the question is, where do they come from? And often from a child and in many occasions when we don't. Understand where those? Stories came from, we run the risk of leading our child version of ourselves. Make decisions think for us and when that happens, that's when we get into trouble financially or when we get into trouble inner lives when I say trouble when we start to veer off the path that we really WANNA go. And as MAC talked about trying to run these stories by. For example keeping ourselves busy and distracting ourselves is only perpetuating the issue. Knack really talks about the hardest person to understand ourselves, and that speaks docked the power of understanding story. So the power of story is our greatest financial asset really is because that's who we are number two understanding where you are and where you going. Not. A great example of at the airport. He says, if we want to know what the future version of ourselves, our our where we're going in life, that's our destination, we can know what the destinations. But in order to get to that destination, we need to know where we're at right now and his example would be we need to know what terminal to get to if we want to go to a certain destination. So, MAC talks about if we WANNA look at ourselves in two years from now, we need to define who that person is but more importantly, well, not more importantly. But just as importantly, we need to know where we are now and what we can start doing on a daily basis that's going to. Move toward that person that we see in two years and too. Often we look at that future version of ourselves or that desired version of ourselves and think, Oh, I can't do that. That's going to be so much work. We see other people doing that on social media and we tell ourselves this story that I can't do that. But a big part of getting that destination is getting to the rate terminal and getting on that plane, and that is as simple as doing daily things that are going to move you towards a future version of. Yourself and the third takeaway is stress is a result of a value being violated Mac often speaks about the camera question is if someone looked at the six months prior to today with a cameron followed you around and then six months ahead of today. So in the future and followed you around what would that tell us about your values? Are you spend your time? Did you do things that you said you valued and that goes into the second part of violator values is living incongruent with our values and that's when we do and say things that. Are underlined or misaligned aligned with what we actually want, and that often presents itself with money. We say that we value certain things but yet we start spending money on things that don't actually value and as Max says, that's distress comes when our values are being violated. That's where the stress comes in light and in our financial. Thank you so much for tuning in this week. If you're enjoying the content, me head over to apple and spotify and leave a rating and review as it really helps. Bring good guest week after week. Thanks so much.

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The Daughters of Kobani and the Fight Against ISIS: Author Gayle Tzemach Lemmon

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The Daughters of Kobani and the Fight Against ISIS: Author Gayle Tzemach Lemmon

"This is intelligence matters with former acting director of the. Hey michael morell brought to you by lockheed martin your mission is ours. I wanted to capture the marvelous complexity of these people who had really led the fight against isis. Most of the women i interviewed. I never heard the idea of women's rights. Isis is beginning ridiculed them and then they really got to know them and they would specifically target them one of them joke zima joke first and then they all did all these interviews saying that. We took it as a compliment that we reported that isis singled us out gail. Samak lemond is an author journalist and a senior fellow at the council on foreign relations. She just published her. Most recent book the daughters of kabbani which tells for the first time the amazing story of how a group of kurdish women came to serve as one of america's leading partners in the fight against isis. Gail joins us today to talk about that new book and we will be right back with that conversation after a word from our exclusive sponsor lockheed martin i michael morale and this is intelligence matters at lockheed martin we know cyber defence starts with collaboration. The digital frontier has created a vast swath of new threats. That's why our cyber architects proudly provide high end expertise to our nation's cyber operators at lockheed martin. Your mission is ours. Gail thank you so much for joining us. On intelligence matters it is great to have you on the show. I'm delighted to be here. So your new book. The daughters of kabbani has just been published. I have to tell everyone that. I really enjoyed reading it. I had a hard time putting it down. So congratulations on a terrific piece of work gail. I thought before we actually jump into the book. I just want to ask you to briefly defined some acronyms for our listeners. Because i'm afraid that you and i may start using that remain. We may lose people. Okay so i'll just throw them out there and you can just explain what what these groups are. So the first one is the white. Pg so these are the people's protection units. These are the syrian kurds who were first protecting their area and then joining the americans fighting isis and then why. Pj why pj is the all women. The women's protection units who were formed in two thousand thirteen as an offshoot of the people's protection units and their goal was both all women fighting for women's rights and fighting isis and joining the americans alongside the isis fight in the staff. The stf is the syrian democratic forces. I know you've talked about this before on this. Show that is. That is the group that became america's partner from two thousand fifteen onward which formed both the syrian kurds and arab groups allied with the pg. Why pj were part of the stf. That's right and the stf becomes the umbrella group with which the americans fight isis as the ground force and the americans coming from the air and the stf lease from the ground arab christian kurds Multi ethnic group great and then lastly the pk k. k. k. the group in turkey that is basically turkeys enemy number one and the. Pk pkk an della donne. Who is the godfather of the pkk. He becomes sort of part of the ideological underpinnings for The syrian kurds talking about both kurdish autonomy not statehood autonomy and that the kurds could not be free until women are free and became is a terrorist group according to the united states uncertain according to turkey and many other countries. And then what just a quick question. What's the relationship at the end of the day between the white. Pg and the pkk this is. The thorn ran through the entire relationship. But the truth was that everybody wanted to make a cartoon of that relationship and it really is somewhere in between certainly abdullah. Ocalan is the ideological figure for these syrian kurds. He is the nelson mandela figure for. Turkey's enemy number. What but he provided the ideological underpinning for a group that could not practice It's holidays could not a teach in its language could not name. It's children in its own language of face jail time simply for any kind of political expression the syrian kurds and he becomes the logical godfather. Really that informs the syrians who become america's partners on the ground so while people wanted to make it Either all in one hundred zero. The truth was it was ideologically connected. The people's protection units to of dilatot. John and the pk pkk. But these were syrian patriots. That these were people who deeply believed in protecting their areas from extremists. And they would always say to me you know. We are not controlled by deal. They joke that we're controlled by washington hours. It's always the gray that we live right. Good okay so that's great so let's dive into the book. What's it about from big picture perspective. And then why did you decide to write it. The book is really about the most far-reaching experiment in women's equality. In the least likely place in the world brought to you by women who had been fighting the islamic state since before it was the islamic state. And we're building this kind of utopia for equality on the ashes of the isis. And how in the world did the americans come to back. This group whose ideology about women's emancipation really went farther than anything. We've seen almost anywhere in the world. And who were the most effective ground force to break the islamic state. And i had to tell the story because honestly the first time i saw it on the ground in syria in the summer of twenty seventeen even as i was prepared for it by a young woman who is in Us special operations forces wide written about for years. Even she prepared before. But it's still very different. We do not have the visual library of twenty five young women with fatigues smiley face stocks timex watches braids an ak forty. Seven's going off to fight the islamic state. It's just too good a story not to tell right pratt. And how did that end up. That the americans back them as the force that could not just take territory but is you know well hold territory and then a fragile stability in place on the ashes of this fight so gail the book toggles back and forth between kind of that big picture that you just outlined and the experiences of four syrian kurdish women fighters eczema rosia narine and no ruz. And why did you. Why did you structure the book that way. War is deeply personal. And we don't talk about it that way and for these people who were fighting the islamic state. Isis was not an abstraction which was something that really struck me the first time i met them in twenty seventeen and then in six subsequent trips afterward they talk about isis with this intimacy of the people who have been fighting them house by house and street by street and town by town for half decade one christian young woman. I asked one time. What did you think the first time you saw an isis fighter and she looked at me like i had asked or possibly the dumbest question ever asked in the history of interviewing. It's what did. I think i thought i wanted to kill and i wanted to capture. How very people with normalize get pushed into extraordinary circumstances and how in the world was it. That men who bought and sold women at the center of their ideology came to face off every day against women. Who had women's emancipation right at the heart of their motivation and their ideology. And why focus on these four particular women. Why did you choose them. So i chose these because they came from different backgrounds. You know some had based zima is a character. Who is the commander who you almost can't believe israel even when you're speaking with her you know just swashbuckling Bonnie and sneaking cigarettes you know even at the end in the end the ceremony as you notice all at the end right. She's leaned over the ceremony with all these. Us diplomats in all our commanders trying to sneak puffs. run our ignorance right after she saw isis. You know for years and they nearly killed her three times so she was just a sort of larger than life. But very real character who i think embodied the spirit of we will never give up. We will die before we let isis defeat us. A narrows was really the commander that the americans would always say. You must talk with her. She is muslim for those who've been following syria. You know the commander of verse people's protection units and then the stf who is very trusted partner on the ground and she is very much. His right-hand deputy other side of this brain. They talk constantly up. He delegates to her and i think that really took the americans back the first time they saw it. Because quite honestly for all the american men who spoke with me from special operations They had not worked with women in a partner force. Let alone women who were truly leading not just leading from base but leading from the front lines and you'll see that chapter right where she is Where the women are crossing. I in men in demand in the other two chose because i thought they were a show that you don't have to have swagger to be true commander in a leader quieter had faced obstacles in life and yet were absolutely resolute and the americans and also the people protection units manders in the stf commanders. All said you know you have to talk to them. And also they were the people that the american women who serve alongside them in the training. The trainer equipped effort really. Said you have to sequence. Oh gail tell us how. The united states came to rely on the white. Pj the united states was on the hunt for a goldilocks. When it came to syria a group that would be able and willing to take terrain from the islamic state and then hold terrain gets the islamic state and then put in place some kind of governance structure that the americans could understand navigate and live with and would not topple assad and as i know you know well right. That was not easy. The guiding principle was the ghost of the iraq. War hung over every decision made on syria and looking for that force that could both beat isis and Not topple assad was nearly impossible and led the american straight to These this group of syrian kurds so as you mentioned earlier one of one of the extraordinary things about the book that i found was that it takes this strategic geopolitical issue and puts a very human face on it as you said and i'd love for our listeners to get a sense of what inspired some of these women to join these militias and the challenges they face in doing so and and in that spirit. I i wondered if you could tell us marine story because i think it's it's really moving. It is so moving in you know interviews are really tedious and so i would go back to syria of Sit with them this. Oh my gosh gail. You're not done with the book yet and knowing that you have to tell. The story emerged right because people's lives are complex and i wanted to capture the marvelous complexity of these people who had really led the fight against isis. Nari was a young woman who saw her dreams crushed because she was born Wanted to be educated at seventeen or sixteen or seventeen. Her uncle said no odor. Father is not appropriate. Not necessary for girls to go to university. Sheet did everything she could to fight that but she was never gonna win and cheap loved her parents and so finally decided she wasn't going to cause any more problems for them. She would go along with your family. Which was conservative and did not believe in gross education certainly higher education. Then they moved to kabbani she. He's this man she loves and they're going to be happy and she has the shot at real joy. Enter family says no. Her uncle has chosen one of his sons. Who wants to marry her. And that's the right. That's what's going to happen. She's gonna marry and she's no. I will not do it. I will not marry anyone. There is zero chance. I'm mary your son. And i'm not going to marry anyone else. If you're taking my love away from me. And i think if you seen about what that must be like you know to see all of that opportunity and hope a crushed and then she gets knock on the door from people who say look you know who follow dilatot john and say we're talking about kurdish rights and women's rights to which never heard this idea of women's rights and in fact most of the women i interviewed including you'll see at the end of the book arab young women a who joined the women's units had never heard the idea of women's rights and she doesn't believe him at first but then she joins them and makes her way as the isis. Fight the fight against extremists before it was even isis when it was raw and other groups really becomes the thing that shaves her life. Because no-one by then can take anything from her because she has nothing left to loot one of the things that just popped into my mind. And i don't know the answer to why y are women's rights so important to coach alana's political ideology. It is a fascinating question. And i point folks who works of allies marcus and other scholars. It is even. We've had a point where one of my editors said to me this idea of the housewife ization of women's work which is written about. She's are you writing. That i said no this comes straight from from from the text and i think it was just as idea that women beat the housewife of women's work The reduction of women to only house in slave and that to truly be free. You had to go to a period where women and men were equal and was part of this whole idea that oh john had which was informed by murray another character. I truly could not invent new. As a former communist than anarchist then became really a creature of grassroots participatory democracy without hierarchy and with ecology and environmental awareness at the center. Ozan reads books and decides governance is going to be about these grassroots participatory democracy these townhall experiments and that women will be a very much at the center so in every town this group from isis a male and a female co head of the civil council goes in a women's council gets established and it's not the kurdish men loved it is at the women didn't care they weren't asking permission because they had this umbrella of the oh joon ideology and that's the thing that struck me more than anything else was. I have never seen women more comfortable with power and less apologetic about running things anywhere in the world. So gail how were hauer. These fighters seen by others on the battlefield. Us forces kurdish male fighters and in most interesting by isis itself on view in that order. It's a great question And i so love this discussion. They were seen really at first as auditees and then his warriors the american men i spoke to a number of us special operations folks at length over years and the reason that they kept going back to was at the they had such deep respect for them was what one of them told me was what they called the warrior. Ethos one of them kept coming back to a west point speech and just kept coming back to the fact that these people who put duty honor and country above all else and that was where they found the bond unreconciled that they were effective that they were no nonsense and that they really were a true fighters and in fact one of the americans. I've never met people who complain less about harsher conditions anywhere in the world and off on the syrian kurdish side on the men's side. I think at the beginning Men were not terribly in favor of the women's protection units being formed from the people's protection units. That's dealt with in the book. The book your listeners will will see that they talk about this and rochdale really comes up with the answer. Is that when i said. Why did you need to join all women's units when you already had quality why create women's protection units. She said we just want men. Taking credit for our work and in isis fighters is so interesting because isis. The beginning ridiculed them and then they really got to know them and they would specifically target them. They would very much on the radio as you'll see in the book and say You know we're coming to find you were coming to enslave you coming to kill you and you one of them joked zima jokes first and then they all did in these interviews saying that we took it as a compliment that we were important enough. That isis signaled us out. One of the most riveting park to the book to me focuses on the why. Pj's experiences during the siege of kabbani one of the major inflection points in the battle against isis. And i wondering what why. Pj's role was in that fight. And why was this battle. So significant and highlighted the cooperation evolve during that battle so the book really is a a capturing at the beginning the battle for kobani which is the david versus. Goliath story lay in many ways. David is is a girl. Because you have the syrian kurds which is a pretty ragtag force with an ideology that many would consider a really Hard to fathom in how far it goes with its notions of equality etc motivating this fighting force to fight to the death against the men of the islamic state. Who at this point have never lost a fight. Their fresh off mozell. I know you know all of this. Well right rush off or go. Fresh off singer have already taken raka. They are on a tear and the book goes back and forth as readers. What's your listeners. Will see between the perspective of us folks in washington and in northern rock. Watching this and the syrians on the ground. These kurdish women watching them as real people coming to take their tau and saying no. This will not happen. We will die. We will fight to. Every single person is dead before we will let these people beat us and i think it's that spirit that the battle for kobe becomes this international moment because the truth is cameras could capture it and there is in the book a moment where you know. Us officials former officials say the fact that it was on camera made a difference. We could see this ragtag group of people without uniforms. It's cetera with berry. You know not very good weaponry up against isis which was truly fresh from a tear of wins and acting like it and the book shows the women who are commanding in that fight. We're going to take a quick break to hear from our dumb. We'll be right back with more of a discussion with gail samak. Lemond at lockheed. martin. We're on a mission your mission. The one that lives depend on the one the future depends on whether it's on the front lines at sea in the air in cyberspace space or on the cutting edge of science. Your mission should never be taken lightly. That's why when millions of people are counting on you. You can count on us at lockheed. Martin your mission is ours. I would love for you to tell two stories from the siege of kabbani and the first is zeman's operation to rescue and he was twenty one of her fighters who had been surrounded by isis. The dyers davonte tells the story about zima in this moment where she gets a call saying twenty one of us are pin down. This is her forces. she's now leading. He's gone from leading a couple folks to now really leading multiple people and now has twenty one folk pin down and lots of people are on the radio trying to tell them what to do and she says. Don't listen to anybody. i'm going to you out. And then we go as readers into her mind is a am. I really going to be able to do this. You know and we follow her as she does everything she goes to Figure out first of all where exactly they are. Then how she can get them out using the heavy Heavy weapons that they have on hand kabbani and then when that fails going to. What is the next resort. How she going to get twenty one people out of a situation in which isis could obliterate them at any moment. and how does she do that. We follow her in the book through this kind of cumbersome but very real process that they had for calling in airstrikes and we follow her through this kind of heart-stopping moment and and it really was that she was telling this to me as your your listeners will see in the book which is she's waiting to see. Will the americans come through. How was this process going to happen. Will they be able to even if they do. Will they be able to figure out how to hit isis and not hit our forces. And we've heard that moment and do you think this was a big moment of trust for her and her fighters in the us so interesting because one of the americans who read it said to me you know. I just wanted to be able to reach to the page and say you know we're coming. Don't worry but i think she had no other choice. She wanted to believe in the americans but they really felt in many ways like they were on their own fighting isis. The whole world was watching. The americans were overhead but who was going house by house and room by room. It was that so. I think it was a lot of hope and some faith and please tell us the story of the gift that the commander of the stf gave a us special operator on his first visit to kabbani and how that drove home the critical roles at the y. Pj was playing. i. I wanted to capture in daughters of bonnie how the american saw these women and this there was an american special operations soldier. Who said you know. i wasn't sure. What the symbolism wise of this these women were they really in the fight were they not and he goes into kobani Readers follow him in the first time in americans they are on the ground after the battle is ended and he gets handed this green scarf that you see all through the region in northeastern syria with scallops and flowers on it and it turns out. It's the scarf of one of the young women who died fighting isis for her people but also for the world because they did the world's work in stopping the islamic state from the ground. Yeah i love that story so gail. Where's the white. Pj today however they thinking about the us. Do you stay in contact at all with your four protagonists. Thought you think about all that you know. Today there is this very fragile but real stability even after the turkish incursion of the end of twenty nineteen. i was there in december twenty nineteen and it almost has no right to be as a stable as it is and what you see is the stf really working to keep what fragile stability it has been able to carve out and that turkey is not attacked in place and waiting to see what the new administration will bring and is the why pj still an entity are they still together or the white bj remains very much a force on the ground and the white bj remains very much part of the women's protection. Units remain very much a part off the people's protection units and the stf more broadly. And you know the question of what comes. Next has loomed over this entire story since i started working on it in two thousand seventeen and i think that is no less the case now in twenty twenty one so gil. Maybe we can shift to some broader questions and the first is. The book is a natural extension. I think of your previous two books in that all of them focus in some way on how women in male dominated societies deal with times of conflict and crisis. So what what drew you to those stories. I truly never set out to write books about women. I set out to tell stories at weren't being told and i think the narrative of the victim has so often the way we see women in war and often you know i spent a lot of time in afghanistan had the privilege of spending a lot of time there on the ground with young women who lived under the tall bond with your who lived after the toll of on and of course northeastern syria and summoned northern rock. And the one thing you see is that they are the strongest people. I've ever met yet. We continue to kind of swat them in this victim blanket. And i wanted to just tell stories that i saw in other people should see two and now i think we're in a moment where there's room for these stories where people see that. You don't need an adjective in front of it. It's simply a war story as friendship story. A story of love and the fact is it happens a to have women main characters but one day will actually see women's stories universal and i hope these stories do their part to get us there. Can you mentioned the other books. Absolutely first book. I did with the dressmaker of calm about a teenage girl whose business supported her family under the taliban and all these girls who were breadwinners during years when they could not be on their own streets on the second book is called ashley's war and that was about an all women's special operations team that was recruited in the us. American women recruited for army ranger a navy seal missions direct action missions back in two thousand eleven while women were officially banned from ground combat. And that is now in the process of becoming a film at universal with reese witherspoon Producing and leslie linka gladder of homeland directed. That's really cool. And how involved are you in that there you know. I think my grandmother was the phone distributors. I'm very careful about walking the line between health and interventionist. It's so i very careful about it but we know we've now been working on this for half decade as a team up bruna pop andrea. Who just did the undoing for h. We out and it's an amazing team. And so they really understand the responsibility of telling the first hour in special operations on samba war story. That's really cool. So gail you talk in the book about your own views your personal views of gender equality and how they were influenced by your upbringing particularly the views of your father. Can you talk about that a bit. Sure and it's funny. Because i really never want to shape the readers views you know i i come from. Pg county maryland where we have all kinds of backgrounds of us. Want to deal with all with respect. And i wanna just china flashlight for readers but i wanted to take readers into my own story because it did influence why. I wanted to tell this. My father was born in baghdad and lost his country as a kid because he was wrong religion but he always you know. I never really understood him as a kid growing up. Pg county know arwa. Smoking reds in eating stashes playing soccer Wooden carry flowers. He didn't think that was masculine. Really one day. We were having this discussion and i don't know i was asking why women that we were around. Were eating after. I thought that's ridiculous nine or ten and my father looked at me and he said you really think men and women are equal. And i wasn't offended by all because he truly. It was puzzling for him. And so i think. I had a really been spending time in the region. I had so much more empathy for how we saw the world on. It already passed by then. But you know i really think about him all the time as you What he saw and what he experiences the child and how that shaped him and also the views about what women's work. What's you know there is of course in. You've you've mentioned this already. Something deeply ironic in this story that it took isis right this brutal islamic extremist organization that enslaved women and raped women to pave the way for in this enclave in northeast syria. Right a place that puts women's rights front and center and just wondering how how you think about that. How your protagonist about that. And interestingly a how how. Isis might think about that. That irony i. It's it's terrific question and every book i've written begins with a question. I cannot answer and i really could not understand how it was. That men who put the Truly the enslavement of women at the centre of their ideas came to catapult onto the global stage. This fighting force with women's emancipation at its heart with the americans backing them. And i really wanted to. Just it took me two years of jeep reporting and trying to talk to people and understand sitting there in rooms across northeastern syria and northern iraq and in the united states. Really working to understand how these events came together that this guy sitting in turkish prison read books from a gentleman a writer in vermont who was not terribly well read by the americans frequently read by the americans and put these ideas of grassroots democracy in town halls at the center of governance in the sliver of no-man's-land recognized by no one but backed by the americans and the book really tries to contact with what isis saw about them too because i think isis was bewildered by them at the beginning. You know they were joking or kill. The women and the book talks about this at the beginning. There's a chill. All the women you see. Fighting in at the end zima and her Are other characters are very good at what they do. It's like don't get shot by women being very careful those women stay away from them or you know. Make sure that you're not killed. But and that becomes the guiding principle. So this is this is a tough question but one of the things. I was thinking as i read. The book is are there lessons here for women's rights in general right women's rights in the united states or women's rights and other muslim countries. How do you think about that. The book really contends with the idea that these women the women who fought isis. Their effort matters far beyond their borders. Certainly day see themselves as fighting for women who are oppressed all around the world and in fact at the end yours told me you know if turkey hadn't invaded we plan to have this gathering of women's groups from around the world come here and talk about it. I really want readers to contend with that question because you know. I thought of so many questions as i. I began writing daughters of kabbani. Does it take violence to stop. Violence against women. Is it only after military victory that women can put an end to violence or is it that what it teaches us is that military campaigns paved the way for political effort and the politics peace and putting women at the centre of the politics is the lesson and i really want readers to grapple with those questions as they read the story of women who killed isis. What's next for you is. is there another. Is there another book that you have in mind. Or i know you're busy doing a whole bunch of other things You're an entrepreneur and you're working on technology and so you're doing a ton of stuff. But i was also struck in the book by your missing right. You're missing the fight in a sense and at drawing you back so i'm wondering if there's something else you're thinking about in or working on in this regard i laugh only because it's the question that i know. You know this well right that you always dread when you write a book because it's basically a much more physically pleasant form of giving birth. I say that is as you then. Put it out in the world and all you wanna do is just make sure it's okay. I don't make sure that does that. You have given everything you have to giving it. Its best shot to reach people to move people to bring people into this world. That feels warm. But isn't and you know you. And i have joked that the i think it is the only book blurb by endorsed by both admiral mcraven And elizabeth gilbert of fried at and that makes me so happy. I really want people to contend with ideas and to feel like it belongs to them that it's not just for policy folks or people who only listened to national security ideas ripe but you have such a broad audience and i think that's what i want for this story as well and the book i was working on when i got interrupted is your listeners will see at the start of the book by a us a special operations soldier of female written woman. I've written about for years Was about the single moms. I grew up with and this community of women who work two jobs and taught us really how to go to work every single day. Not feel sorry for ourselves in how to look at the world in a way that respects people even when they see the world differently and also just their adventures in deep misadventures sort of like a nine to five but in real life so yes. I might go back to that but really i. I want folks to to come to love this story in daughters kabbani. So we're You've been you've been amazing with your time and let me just ask you one more question. We're having this conversation on the eve of a new biden administration and this will run right after president biden has been inaugurated. And i'm wondering how you think about what's at stake for the syrian kurds in general and for these amazing syrian kurdish women in particular as the biden administration decides what it wants to do in iraq and syria. Everything is at stake for the women who are in the daughters of kobani. these are women who fought isis. this is a force. At least ten thousand of its people in the fight against is for the world relate with america as the power and the train and equip power but them around force doing the fighting right now the us presence in northeastern syria. Which i've seen for myself Actually is making a difference. It is allowing this very fragile stability to exist or to continue to exist and the stakes are high for the united states as well This truly is the post nine eleven policy. That actually did what it set out to do. It is a by within through right partner for what it set out to. The did everything had promised. And then some and the question is what comes next for it and i do think many people will be watching to see how the new administration really takes up this policy. The book is daughters of kabbani. The author is gail simone. Lemon gail thank you so much for joining us live pleasure thank you for having that was gail samak lemond. I'm michael morell. Please join us next week. For another episode of intelligence matters intelligence matters is sponsored by lockheed martin. Your mission is ours. This show is produced by livia gases. Jamie benson jake rosen. Paulina smolinski and arianna freeman for more from this week. Show visit cbs news. Dot com intelligence. 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Ora Nadrick -- founder and president of the Institute for Transformational Thinking

Living Regret Free

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Ora Nadrick -- founder and president of the Institute for Transformational Thinking

"Hi, everyone. This is Dr Carson, welcome to living regret free a program that shows you how to live a better and more joyful life. As an added bonus. I invite you to listen to an introduction to my mindset matters program, which ties into this sub. Well, go to WWW dot SOB, mindset dot com, it's free. And I know you will enjoy it if you'd like to contact me personally drop me a line at Gail Carson thirteen at g mail dot com. Or go to my website, WWW dot spunky old broad dot com and sign up for my weekly newsletter. Hi, everybody. This is doctor Gail Carson. And you know that we are talking about living regret free today. But I'd like to offer you an invitation to have a private consultation with me if you would like, and if you go to spunky old brawd dot com and sign into my contact page there and request a conversation with me, we will do that. No obligation just to getting to know you a little bit. And you getting no me. So I will forward to it. However, I have a great guest today, and she is aura niche. She is founder and president of the institute for transformational thinking and author of live true, a mindfulness guy authenticity. She's a certified life coach a mindfulness teacher. And she specializes in transformation thinking, self-discovery and mentoring new coaches as they develop their careers. Well, first of all welcome or how are you today? Hi gail. Thank you so much for having me. I'm wonderful. Great. Well, you know, the big buzzword now is transforming and transformational everything today is about being a transform Asian a leader or leave living a trimming formed life. So why do you think right now that you're? Message of living authentically, you know, especially now for the times, we're in is so important. Well, I think it's what you just said. I think the times that we're in you know, when we start to hear things like fake news, and people are really at a loss to know. What is real? What is not? What is you know, social media interpretation and people feel blitz creed. With just way too much. Do you know, it's it's just overwhelm and many people not only feel bombarded stressed confused. But they actually don't really know how to discern or delineate between what is real. And what is not? That's why I feel it starts with us. We need to know, what feels real and authentic to us. And are we living our lives that way? Because if we are and we're clear about who we are. And what we believe is true. It's going to help us be able to discern it outside of ourselves. Well, that is so true. And you're right on about. All the mixed messages. We get as a matter of fact, I was I don't know. I was just on not even on a, you know, anybody's website. It was just on. I don't even know where I was on the internet, and I saw the same article four or five times with four or five different celebrities, headlining it. And of course, I'm sure there weren't any of them that were endorsing this. But because it kept changing. So it's true. I mean, you really think that something is real. And it isn't so yeah. Yeah. You wanted to say Samak, and here's what came to mind Gail when you were saying that it's interesting. You know what I call him? I first book says who automatic thoughts thoughts that pop up in her mind, very instantaneously. And it made me think of when we were little I don't know if you remember this or you played it remember there was a game called telephone. And you would you would sit in a circle and. You would whisper something in someone's ear like a sentence. It could be a prompt. It could be lyrics to a song. And by the time. It went around to the last person. It had changed. I do remember that. I didn't know the name of it. I didn't know I believe it was called telephone. It could be called something else. But to me, and the mind you I we played that as children, and what was really the goal of the game was to make sure that you kept. What was said to you intact. Yeah. It was all about on. I mean, you were passing the sentence along you were reiterating. What was whispered in your ear? But really what came down the pike was very different more often than not. I think that's a great metaphor that by the time. Things are translated interpreted weighed in on in specially today because we are bartended. It's just too much too much. Yeah. You know, it's interesting. And then you talk about another buzzword of today, which is mindfulness. And I remember meeting someone gosh, maybe six seven years ago now, and she was all about mindfulness, and she was about bringing mindfulness into companies. And I thought oh man she is going to starve to death because they don't want to hear it. And yet today she is going strong. So what made you so passionate about the power? Of mindfulness and out of this come to you. Well, you know, I my trajectory my path, you know, very psycho spiritual for very long time. I've studied many teachings many modalities, many techniques technologies, etc. Because I've been on the path of you know, you said that we're transformation self realization, self actualization. You know, you know, that old quote knows I self, you know, I've been very interested in the workings of the mind, and for me in particular, my story stems from having a sister that was mentally ill, and which was very devastating and she's no longer with us. She was very very special soul. But, you know, her breakdown her mental breakdown really impacted me, and it really just changed my whole world around if you will so it so I went on a deep deep search for that meaning mindfulness with. That I discovered along the way and once I became aware of it. And also as a meditative because I started meditating young, you know, to sort of, you know, understand how to calm the mind down how to head observe it. And the mill thousands of thoughts we think in in that head of ours. When I came upon mindfulness, it just immediately resonated for me because it really was a way in which we could observe ourselves. And this isn't just about sitting on a meditation pillow or yoga mat where you sit for twenty minutes, and quiet the mind. This is about all the waking moments of our live and mindfulness for me was such a powerful, you know, understanding of the self and I became a certified mindfulness teacher in a mindfulness meditation teacher, and my work really is devoted to that. And it's an integral part of all of the work that I do it was part of my first book says who which was having. Mindful awareness of the thoughts that we have. And with that mindful awareness, we can then change them. And that's how I created the says who method and now my new book live true, a mindfulness guy too often Tissot is really all about the understanding of who we are. You know, it's it's really getting to know ourselves better. I think it's really important to do. So so that we can be clear and healthy and wholesome and have healthy thinking habits, which is something I go in, you know, deeply into both books. Well, it's interesting. I have to confess I am not a meditative. I have tried. I've tried but my mind is just going all the time. And so, you know, when I sit there, and I I tried to empty my mind. You know, then I fall. Then I got this shows, you how relaxed your you get, you know. And then of course, you know, I just did a workshop at one four four multi versity in Scotts valley in northern California called mine mood and happiness with Dr Ron Alexander. And a woman came up to me because we were teaching meditation that was part of the workshop, and she said that very thing. She says, you know, I meditate a lot, but then I start to fall asleep. How can I stop that? And then that takes you to a whole other level of being aware of when you start to be tired. So that you can bring your focus and awareness to that. Like, oh, I'm about to fall asleep. And then you become aware of how not to do that. So and by the way, you not being a meditation imitator, and being honest that I think is great. There are millions of people who feel like you do they don't meditate. They don't know how to meditate they don't wanna meditate. But I really encourage taking time in are very very busy days. Even if you're. Someone who doesn't wanna meditate and that's perfectly. Okay. No judgment. But try and sit for at least, you know, I encourage like ten minutes just just sit quietly somewhere. Even if you're looking at the out the window and seeing, you know, the the leaves on a tree moving or, you know, a sunbeam coming through your window or anything that you can stop the business. We we need to really incorporate that enjoy day somehow, I agree with you. I think that's important. And of course, when I look out my window. All I see is water and boats, but I will fight. I tell pretty Gail it is it is. And then of course, when I fit my catch come on my lap. And then I love petting them. And that's very relaxing to me. But you know, you also talked about training yourself to become fully present. And I know that there's a lot talking about just the power. Power of now, you know, the power of being right in the moment. And right full have a really difficult time with that. And you know, that's well, it doesn't matter. What happened in the past? We don't know what the future is the only thing we can control is right now. So how do you tell people? How do you train them to become more fully present? Well, I talk a lot about that in in live true. And I say that we oftentimes spent more time than not in two timeframes that don't exist. We go back to the past which is already come and gone. And sometimes we lament what we wish we did differently or it happened different y'all. I think we ought to Louis we do, and that's a total waste of time and mind, you this is very different than reminiscent. Or you know, remembering fond memories, that's not what I'm talking about. Here. I'm talking about how we go back into the past. And we can stay on what I call the hamster wheel. And we we really do spend an inordinate amount of time there or we are thinking about the future, which isn't even here yet and our mind gets occupied with the what if what you know, what could happen. What might happen and it creates worry and concern? And exactly so where we. The least amount of time isn't the president. I mean, it's just amazing to me that we try to wiggle out of the moments of our lives, and what's really sad. If you will about that that life moves very quickly. And before we know we've wasted a lot of time. And you don't want to be taking your last breath. Wishing you hadn't done that. Do you know? So that's the power of mindfulness is really to bring that awareness to people. And basically say look the moments of your life are really important. And if you value them, you're not gonna want to hurry them along now that can be easier said than done. So your question. How do you do that well, mindfulness which its definition definition is being in the present moment with total awareness and to add to that is with acceptance non judgment, and I what I like to call the cherry on top with self love. And so if for when you're in a moment you and I are. Talking. We're engaged in this conversation. I know I certainly am. I'm not thinking about what I'm going to have for lunch or dinner. And I'm not thinking about what happened yesterday. I'm really here. I'm present. I'm in this conversation because I want to be you know, you have to wanna be present. You have to one of value. What you're doing enough to also what I call show up for it like a hundred percent. So this takes training this takes practice, and you know, not to go be hard on yourself. But like if when we're starting to get out of a moment, how often do we listen to people, and our mind starts to wander, and what I say is the minute you start to see yourself thinking about other things no to know to self. And I I have a lot of note to self in live true. Oh, my mind is wandering let me bring focus in awareness back to this moment. So that I can really listen to this person who's talking to me and really. Give them my undivided attention, which really shows that I'm respectful of their time. You know, these are the act of mindfulness, which is really an essence being thoughtful person to ourselves to others. So. How is the steps of? I'm aware that my mind is wandering let me bring my focus in awareness back to the moment, which is really the essence of meditation that when your mind starts to wander you bring it back to the breath. And it's helped the mind to be disciplined, really. But it does take that it does take discipline. And it does take that ability to to get started like that. And but it's a challenge it's a challenge for a lot of people. And but I think it's a necessary challenge. And and you also talk about. The judgmental inner voice. And that's when I shoulda coulda woulda comes in. And we always say, and that I guess it goes back to what you were saying about, you know, not not remembering things that in a good way. But lamenting what we have not done that we wanted to do. So how do we get away from a judgmental inner voice? I mean, I would assume a lot of it comes from first of all our upbringing, and what we were radio than being told whether we did things. Well, are we didn't do things. Well, and whether we were smart or whether we were dumb and stupid. So how how do you get away from that? It's so true. And I talk about that a lot in says who my first book because so much of what was told to us in childhood. We bring into adulthood, do you know? And my second question of a says who method is have I heard someone say this thought before because a lot of the people that I've worked with will connect to the first. Time. They heard something in childhood when they were told they were stupid, they told they were, you know, absent minded, they told they were told they weren't going to be good at sports or they weren't pretty enough or they weren't thin enough. And unless you really work through that you're going to carry those what they become our core. Believe into adulthood. So we all have the inner critic. It's there it's real we all have negative thoughts. You know, my teachings are not about the fact that oh, let's just positive thoughts all the time positive positive positive, and we're never going to think negative thought again, that's not real. But we need to know how to work with it. And we need to know how to you know, to use your your first word is those those those op pop words today transformation. How do we transform negative thoughts into positive thoughts? Again, it's being aware of when that negative thought comes up and to what I offer up and says who is a a technique called release. And replace if you just. Released negative thought and replaced it with its positive counterpart. You're starting to build a a healthy new healthy thinking habit, you know, which bills new neural pathways with all the neuroscience that they're discovering and how we literally can change our brain. It's fascinating. So what do we do? We take these little steps we start to be again mindful of when we begin to tell ourselves I'm stupid. I'm unlovable. I'm unworthy. No one's gonna love me. And never going to get that job. I want on and on and on. And by the way, what I say in live true is substitute. The inner critic with a constructive advisor. Do you know we can tell ourselves how to do things differently? But let's be constructive about it. Let's not throw ourselves under the bus. Let's not sabotage ourselves. Let's not say these horrible things stores of what good is it. It doesn't help us. It just makes us feel worse about ourselves. So. Even these little beginning steps. And this is really what it's about Gail. You know, we all can say, oh, that's so hard. Oh, that's so challenging oh. That's never going to change. But I can tell you with out any doubt that if you stick to this, and you practice the skill sets daily, you will see a change in the way, you think. Well, I totally agree with you. I happen to be, you know, a very I happen to be a very positive thinker. Everybody that listens to me knows that. But it's you know, it is kind of a difficult when you've been raised a certain way, I was really really fortunate. My my parents were it was amazing people really were amazed. They were they let me get away with things that most parents would not let them get away with and gave me a structure that was still strict I remember at the age of thirteen I was coloring. My hair and everybody said, oh, how can you let her do that? And my mother said, well, this should be the worst thing. She does. And it's fine. You know, and it was and you know, I always kind of was out front with everything that I did. I was a tomboy and just lots of things that I did. And she said, well, that's okay. But when it came down to a how I answered the phone or the fact that I had to be nice to people or that. I I had to say thank you, and excuse me, those were thinks she was serious about. But the other things she said, look, you're you, you know, or like all my friends were if they got a good grade, they got money, and my mother said, no, you don't get money. You've got the brains, and you come up with a good grades. You know? So it was it was just a different kind of parenting and it worked really well for me. And she just, you know, the a lot of things as I say that most parents would be upset with. She just said, no, that's hard. She's expressing herself. And that's okay. So it was very very you're very you're very fortunate. Because what I what I hearing the way you described the way your mother brought you up which I think was very balanced in that. She let you be you, which is really a lot of what I talk about live true about the authentic self. And I think that's a great way for us to bring up our children, and I try to implement that myself. I'm a mother two sons. And I always say, I let my children let me know who they are. I don't tell them who they are. Yeah. Yeah. It really is a long with those disciplinarian. You know, what I wanted to say is whether it's rules or vice again about how to be a conscious kind person, which it sounds like she was teaching you that? But also letting you be who you are and expressing yourself. And that's to me a very important way to bring up our children because you know. More often than not we see these very, you know, sad situations of people that talk about that in adulthood that. My parents wanted me to be what they wanted me to be. They didn't accept me for who. I was. Yeah. People like that. She was not always happy with my choices. You know? I mean in the late fifties. I moved away from home. You know, I finished college in five days later, I was in Miami. And she wasn't thrilled about that. But I had always been told, you know, when you finish college you have to have a job. And so this is where I wanted to live. And this is what I wanted to do. So you know, she wasn't thrilled about that. And I remember my my dad making or my mom somebody made reservations or something on a on a train. And I said I am not taking two days to get to Florida. I said I'm going on a plane, and I had saved up some money, you know, and I got me my plane reservation in down I game. But let's tell our people at fell our audience how to find you up. So where can they go to find you what your website and very easy? Yes, go I was gonna say an where can they buy your books? And if there's something you want to give away to our audience. We're certainly open to that. Well, first of all born Adrian, which is by name or a NASD R. I C H is the my social media handles across the board. That's how you can access my website. You know, all the social media, you know, Twitter Instagram linked in Facebook on all of it. So it's my name again or an age rich and as far as getting my ebook. I'm on all the book outlets, Amazon Barnes and noble. You know, bookstores carry me, I don't know where people live and what's local to them, which can be ordered. But I find the fastest way to get my book, really is Amazon and or Barnes and noble. 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276: When Angels Sing

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1:05:51 hr | 4 months ago

276: When Angels Sing

"This was all circulating around the base that a giant kill almost talk about. saw. Long going fingers reach up the door, curl up to grab it and then disappeared. When he came over to. Dude he slithered over to make. This comes out. Frozen. And he starts running firing up the giant. Giant move. Running. Really. Fast it's fears. then. Try this. Somebody else shoot him shoot him in the face it basically potato. Dot. Dot Com when got about this? Way. That for about blow the fat of. From pulling at my leg and I looked over and there are two. Mall Gray. and. Literally I'm getting pulled off that. Reese my interest. Bush. And I. Couldn't breathe. Couldn't move. Because I know see him monster. Don't. Shoot. Welcome to the show everybody you're listening to the confessionals I'm your host Tony Markle thank you for being here if you have a counter or story like to share with me on the show, go ahead and shoot me an email email addresses the professionals at the confessionals podcast dot com that's the confessionals at the confessionals podcast dot com or go the website the confessionals podcast dot com hit the contact section creature that way as well either we works for me just get a hold of me if you want more shows every week we offer bonus show on Thursdays to Members on the website. So if you WANNA hear more of this show, every Thursday go to the confessionals podcast dot com hit the joined button and become a member today and you'll be able to binge. All previous number shows all future member shows, and of course Thursday's member episode. If you're looking to prepare with some emergency preparedness food I want to let you know about prepare with the confessionals dot com that is prepare with the confessionals dot com. It is a great source to have emergency preparedness food that you could put on yourself. It will last up to twenty. Five years, shelf. Life Right. Now, if you order a four week supply, we will not one hundred dollars off for you. It's a great deal at prepare with the confessionals DOT com. Now, this week we have my dad in the studio for the intro because we just got done recording for other podcast hammer lane legends. I thought why isn't he's just sitting with me for the in show dad how you doing I'm doing. All right thanks for letting me sit in your dad. So we just got done recording for Hammer Lane legends and you know we have some really. Good interviews coming up here some great conversation but people who are listening to this show who maybe don't know that I have another podcast I talk about all the time. Could you let them know what is Hammer Lane legends about Hammer Lane legends show about the trucking industry. We like to talk to drivers. We'd like to talk to anybody who actually spent time on the road. Yeah. You know it's kind of an interesting thing. We kind of get into some of the industry aspects of it experience aspects of it, what they've seen, what they do, how they do it. Just kind of a fun conversation we have and we have a good time. Yeah. It's a very good time and we talked to people who drive for a living and they have wild experiences from the road. We talk about on hammer leads it's not a paranormal podcast. It's just a person who drives for a living. You have crazy experience out in the road and we talk about it on hamlet legends and people seem to enjoy it. Yes. So Dad this week, we have Michelle coming on the show and Michelle. I think you're gonNA enjoy this interview because the show has a lot to prepare normal experiences drought or life but we talk about for later on the show probably about half the show we talk about this situation where she was in a worship service and she hurt angel singing, and then we wanNA playing audio from a guy named Jason Upton who's A worship leader and he actually recorded angels sing during one of his worship sets and he has sound guy explains in breaks it all down. They singled out to just Jason Microphone where he was singing on stage and there was nobody around him but there's two voices his and something else's and it's harmonizing with him. Wow. Yeah. We're GONNA play that audio on this episode is a great episodes. Let's get to it right now. All right today, we gotta guest coming on the show Michelle Michelle, how're you doing and thank you so much. Awesome. So it just hit me when I was welcoming you to the show just now that I say the same exact thing welcoming people on this show. It hit me I was like you know I say the same thing every week and I wonder if I should switch it up some time I don't know. Alright nobody's ever complained about it. So I guess we'll just keep doing my thing because it's routine how? It works. So don't mess with you don't WanNa. Works absolutely. So I have an email sitting in front of me from you and it's a lot of experiences that you've had throughout your life and it starts out when you were a child and as this stuff moves forward throughout your life, it gets pretty serious and so You know we're GONNA start off from the very beginning of you know your childhood when you first started having these experiences and just kind of walk us through your your life really of these experiences happening you. To you and I think it's important that we we cover. You know I in chronological order as much as possible just because it really paints a picture as to how this kind of stuff develops in people's lives over time. So without taking any more time up and stuff feel free to walk us into these experiences. I, know the I kind of experience. We're GONNA be talking about his dislike cat that popped up, but it was Kinda ghost cat So go ahead and take it away. Okay. So I lived in these apartments I moved there when I was about six years old. And it was my mom me and my step dad. And I would hear tapping. In. The Room. And It started where it was just kind of constant tap tap. TAP. And I noticed it on the wall. And it kind of went around the room and they used to call my died in Thailand here this topping and he would turn off the lights and down there for quite some time. Probably like five minutes and it went do it when he was there So then he would tell me to go to sleep go to the room and it would start again. So I I just basically would cover my ear with blankets and hope that it would go away and then over time it started to move around the room. Eventually I had my little brother was born and we got bunk beds. So I have the top bunk and there was a wooden bar that they could to keep me from falling. and One night. You know this happened throughout like a year or two it was constant. And Bus One night I heard it again and I just got brave. I was like. I'm sick of this. I'm not sleeping at night and I told it to shut up. And it's like the toppings off like it hurt me and then it started tapping really hard and really fast and that scared me, and then it actually came to the wooden part of my bed in front of my face where the board kept me from falling. It was right in front of me I can hear it and I was terrifying. After that happen I woke up one morning and I went to the living? Room. And turned on the TV to watch cartoons and I I look over and just black cat. It was Kinda see through it across the floor. And my body Kinda got startled like I got shivers down my spine freaked me out and it disappeared. And other. was like seven years old. I'm thinking I must be tired on pass asleep mind tried to explain it away immediately. Sit on the couch turn on the TV's. The TV and my mom had a wicker basket where she used to put a plant in there but there was nothing in there at this time. So I look over for some reason and the black cat jumped out of it. And as soon as it's paws, hit the ground, it disappeared. So, that's when I realized I'm not just tired something's going on I, saw it again. And from then on I just started having a lot of nightmares. I would a lot of my nightmares me protecting my mom. As a kid, my nightmares worry about Mommy's and vampires and things like that. But they were always attacking my mom and I, was always trying to protect her and I couldn't understand why. And no one else was having these experiences that I knew of It got so bad were mom and step dad switched me rooms because they were sick of me crying about it. My Mom told that she started hearing in the other room as well once she switched me rooms. So that. Gave me confirmation. There was something. leader in the years I came to find out that my mom. was. Using drugs in that house and actually one night. Created to the double that. If he could give her drugs. So I think that my mom brought that evil or whatever was going on in the house and it went after me because I'm sensitive I believe. Because I've asked my brother seven years younger than me. And do now. Did you ever remember anything going on not house or feel? Anything Weird or scary, and he said, no. So it was just me. and my mom told me that she actually was in that room and there was a little space between the side of her bed on the wall. And she said when one morning it was really dark and will morning. Probably like maybe four or five in the morning. And she looked over and it was pitch black on the side where that corner was. She said something jumped out at her from the darkness and she could only describe it as the face of it with really sharp scary teeth from that movie And I've heard in the past your other people talking about this space which scary teeth. So reminded me of that. Just evil. And she said it just jumped out at her and went through her kind of and it just disappeared. So that was to me just evil and I feel like it attached itself to me because once we moved there, we live there about ten years. I was thirteen I believe when we moved. and. That's when I started experiencing sleep paralysis. which was like, I have the explanation for because I would look it up I. didn't know why I would wake up in I couldn't move my body and I was wide awake. It would feel like something was just touching me up my leg. And I couldn't move but I'm aware of my surroundings and. It was really uncomfortable in very scary. after some time, it eventually let let me go I guess I could say and I was able to move again. And I would sit up and my heart would just be pounding and I was sweating. Terrified and I don't know why or what that was And I didn't know to pray or anything like that. Yet I was not. My mom never pressured us with religion. We don't really know about that yet. I. another time. When I was my step dodge I was in the room. And I woke up in the night and I felt something grabbed my feet. And it literally pulled me off the bed. And I remember Schilling. The blankets go past me. Being drug out I, remember falling on the ground, the feeling of being pulled. But I woke up I was back to where I was. But my eyes were open I'm feeling everything that the terrified aftermath of it. And I just couldn't think of you know what are awake or my sleeping. There's no way that I'm feeling all this. I was share things in my ear whispering in my name. Just horrible sounds in my ear I could fill breath hot And I just it was torture it was just I wasn't sleeping red. and. There came a point in time where. When I was around my twenties I, started to take nyquil. And try to cope with sleep that way but my adrenaline would burn it off. So still went really sleep. Arm. I moved to. Palm Springs. When I was about twenty one. Or actually I'm sorry. Let me let me go before that when I was about twenty years old I moved to Georgia for six months to visit I biological father out there. and. I woke up one morning and he's in theorist. So. We. I woke up one morning. And I felt I was holding onto a pillow I sleep with holding a pillow and felt a tug on it. and. So I thought it was my dad because he's to wake me up like that. Kinda mess with me. And I, just ignored it and I felt tug on the pillow again it was pretty hard so I told him stop. And It did it again and a got frustrated I look up and nobody's there. And I can hear him in the kitchen making breakfast and I get up and walk out there. I'm like dad what's were you in the room pulling on my pillow? No. I'm like, okay and in that place to I was having nightmares and. Waking up seeing an entity that was dark. And the shadow looked like it had long hair though in it ran out full speed. Never forget just jumping in the bed just terrified. Wondering. What that? What? What is going on? And I called my grandma who's very religious Catholic and she came and she blessed the House and. Prayed over it and nothing happened after that. So six months later, I move in with my boyfriend time. moved to Palm Springs. And we had to stay in the garage because His sister lived in the duplex that we were trying to rent. So we're waiting for her to move out. And so we're in the garage and it was made is a room when he was a teenager and there's no windows pitch black and I hate the dark. But. He could not sleep with an late. So Pitch Clock Lane. down. And worse leap and I feel tapping on my back. And it's like waking me up trying to wake me up and I'm like what? and. So I didn't hear anything I just laid there and I feel tapping in the same spot again and it's like poking me. And I'm just like, okay I looked up and I didn't see that he was trying to wake me up. So I figured you know. What? And the same thing nothing. I tried to go back to sleep again and I felt it for the third time. Again in it just it hurt irritated me. So I finally jumped up I'm like what? And he was turned around on the other side facing away for me. Completely Dead Asleep. and. I could see some light under the door and I'm just freaked out at this point and I'm like, okay or something here, and it's bugging me. Winds, but I just try to ignore it. in springs again, it's really hot. So another night me moved to the living room of his mom's House 'cause I just hot nut garage. and. I fell asleep on the couch. It was like a long couch. So I was facing him he was facing me and a recliner type. seat. And we're both. Sleeping and for some reason both waked up with Eyes Wide Open. And I want to say how have been at least three or four in the morning again And I looked over to the right in the hallway there was pitch black. And this mass deschutes out from it. It look like a dark black like ball like a mess. And it was so fast is shot across the room. It's slams against the blinds to the side of me and it falls and I'm like he he's would you know what the hell was that I'm like? I don't know. So we both get apple we're looking around and I'm looking for this. Whatever, object. Across the room. And there's nothing there. And I saw Sarah's Day. I don't know if he saw the end of it or what would we both heard? It slammed against the blame for Thursday nothing there. And His parents were sleeping in the room. Nobody was awake and that was just really scary ice. We couldn't explain that away couldn't find anything. We then moved finally sister moved out next door. So we moved to at least and I immediately felt like something watching me I felt really uncomfortable. And things started moving around and our bedroom. And he my boyfriend at the time was not the type of person that was believed in any of that era. Take Him. He didn't to talk about it. he doesn't like scary movies just anything like that. He just pushed it away. I don't know if he was scared of it or just didn't believe but. He always laughed it would I would tell her my experiences even though he was experiencing it to. he never acknowledged it. He just thought there was always an explanation. So. I couldn't sleep I'd be ugly. was affecting me at work. I was drinking law just trying to cope with it. I'm just really unhappy I was depression. And I would wake up and things would be moved around the room and I'd ask him did you move news like why would I touch your son? I'm not rearranging things around here I didn't move anything. And then I had this wooden jewelry box that would always be pressed to the very edge of our wall unit where if you touch that thing or blue on it, it would fall over on my head. Side pushed it all the way back again and it was pretty heavy where you know it's not easily moved and I would shake the bed frame and try to figure out how is this movie? And it it doesn't move the bed frame. Wasn't it was like you know pressed up against very heavy old. It's just I couldn't explain that either in happened twice where I woke up and look up and it's over my head. Haning. And so I felt like it was just. Picking on me or trying to scare me. And I would put on a night light in the bathroom in human ended up, turning it off he hated light and I just was so scared to be in the dark. In this one experience that really really scares me to this day and. I still can't explain it I woke up one night and I saw silhouette next to me in the bed. And it was almost like it was kneeling. And I could see it looked like a person and its arms were kind of folded over and it's Chin was resting on its hands. And it was leaning on the bed looking at me. And I'm turned around and I'm looking at this being picking what is a is that a person? And I'm thinking I need to touch it because it's not moving. I was trying to tell myself is it my laundry basket? No because that was in the corner. And why does this look literally like the Silhouette of a person? Leaning on my bed steering the. and. I'm terrified. I'm trying to wake him up. I was pinching him. I was shaking him. He would not wake up. I did everything I could to try to get his attention and he just was dead asleep and I finally got the courage after a long time to. Lean over in Samak this thing with my elbow. And as soon as I shave it was nice it was like flesh. Heard like a smack kind of like when you hit a person like when you punch him. That scared me so bad to realize. It was something there. And I passed out. I think I was so scared. In that women of fear I passed out because the next thing I knew I woke up in the morning. And Everything's where it should have been the laundry basket was corner. Nothing. was there anymore? my boyfriend was up in in the kitchen and in living room and I just couldn't explain that with the hook. Was that thing? What was it doing there and how is it possible that I can actually feel it and I thought back to the podcast that you had with other guy that. He was Lord in the closet and thought it was he's blaming Heidi go seek. And he said that. I think he said he touched it. That's the only thing I've ever heard that matched my story because I'd never heard of a person being able to touch entity. dot felt human and it was just shocking and scary and Tuesday. My family wants to hear that story 'cause it's so creepy. after that I. Had a really hard falling out a hit rock bottom just drinking and trying to. Just Cope I was into deterrent cards I was trying to. A wrong direction. I was practicing Tarit and I was you know doing signs and you know astrology. Just looking for something that made sense. It just kept leading me towards darkness for some reason, and I was just out partying every weekend and drink. Trying to just not feel or because I couldn't sleep. So just passing out was the only thing I could think to do is drinking till I falsely. And it came to a point where my uncle just came over and she started doing Bible Bible study with me. And I started going to church and. Praying and and my life changed things changed But I got a different kind of. Experience when I started, you know following Jesus. In it was good I. Didn't feel afraid so much anymore and. I started having experiences that I couldn't explain. And for instance in Church I was seen and we're seeing me worship and I close my eyes and I start seeing a light. and. Hoping my is thinking like is anybody else seamless and everybody else is in to the worship to and and. Close. My eyes again and. I start hearing like a beautiful choir. I've never heard a more beautiful sound in my life. Seeming seeming. And I'm looking is again I'm looking around is anybody else hearing this because this isn't this isn't are worship. and. I told my friend about it and he's like, that's like. Like. You probably heard angels and I was like no way like, why? Why do I get here that how come on so lucky you know I was like that's awesome. and. So at that point in my life is really trying to change direction that I had been in from you know practicing witchcraft and stuff in it really gave myself over to the Lord knows. You know working three part team jobs going to school. Went through divorce. And Had A little girl. And I was just trying to get my life together. And so wanted these that I was at Toes cleaning all the machine and I'm thinking in my head look at your Lord. Looking were you've brought me from? I'm so happy I could sleep again. You know things are good in my life ice like Gosh look at you and your soul. And I was I was just speaking about. where he brought me. And all the sudden. I hear. My daughter. And it was the most beautiful voice and to this day I, can't remember. I just remember it being a male voice peaceful and beautiful and the feeling that overcame my body like. I knew who it was I I looked around the store and like does any did anybody else here that I realized what the word rejoices because I wanted to dance on wanted to run around in proclaiming it was just like why Why do I get to hear him? Like. You know something I count extreme. After that you know things got better and on the able when still get sleep paralysis or feel scared because I still feel like. You know there's times I like something very sensitive still I feel like I've seen shadows running by things in the corner of my eye just I noticing that a lot of people maybe wouldn't. And I just prayed away When I feel like I get sleep paralysis. I can't move and I feel something grabbing me I feel it like hugging me really tight. I, just pray and crates locals way. But I still get attacked. It's very far and few between, but that's I experienced things. I haven't heard any of you know haven't heard his voice. France I wish I could. and. That's pretty much it. You know just Oh, and years after I talked to my mom about what she did. You know she's clean now for four years. But she feels like she brought. On, me too because she was so messed up in her addiction and you know when you're going through dark things and you don't understand your kid people open up doors I believe in May be portals are knowing you're asking somebody you shouldn't be asking for things like that. You know there's a dark there's good and there's bad in two definitely opened a badge for me. I believe that. And now years later. We're both praying and stuff in. Believers. But it took all these years of unknowing not understanding. To get you know. To get rubber at it was a long road. It's. It's very been very hard. To deal with something I don't know how people. Can cope with having bad things happen to them that you can't even explain you feel like you're going crazy. So that's when I heard your podcast and I was just like, wow, other people are going through at two and have been through it and I had stories that I can relate to other people like that. Wasn't just me. You know wasn't crazy I know I felt these things I saw them I heard them. And to actually feel that entity, it's the most terrifying thing ever but I know that I'm protected. This is not a test. This is your emergency broadcast system announcing the commencement of the annual purge sanctioned by the US government commencing at the Siren any and all crime including murder. We'll be legal for twelve continuous hours, police, fire, and emergency. 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But in general most people are believers and you know it's interesting because you have experienced things from both sides as far as good and evil things like that you know. With these things you know over time you know having some kind of contact with you. I know you said earlier that you weren't sure of sleep paralysis or not What's your gut say when it comes to this idea of being pulled off your bed do you think it was of sleep paralysis thing like a a nightmare? Do you think is something that actually happened or what I feel like it's somewhere in between like in our sleep that that Deep Rem I fully were open to being attacked. So I don't know if it was taunting me a making me feel like it was real but. For me it was very real because I can take. I can close my eyes and get right back to not moment and I can tell you every little thing that happened I could see around me clearly I can feel I could smell could almost sense were there But. Then to be right back in the position like makes you feel like you're crazy like okay. So was I. Cold or wasn't I? But I do believe that it's it was a paranormal experience I, can't explain. I've had you know several people say such things on the show where they were either being pulled off their bed. You know we had that famous episode where Melissa is actually pulled down a hallway and and so there's a lot of people's experiences. I even had a guy I think it was like episode twenty, nine David. Talked about how he woke up to grey entities and actually. On the intro the show but he had these two entities and they're pulling off the bed and at the same time they're pulling them off the bed his wife's laying next to him. He actually feels that yes physically he's being pulled off the bed but also at the same time felt like something was being pulled out of him like his spirit or soul. Well, what was that? Did you hear that? What was that? I don't know. Wow, that was weird that really shook my eardrum. Hang on a second. Let Me Stop the recording and And listen to this a few moments later. I don't know I don't know what to make of that. Era that's weird and actually I'm in. My Boyfriend's house, and this is the place where I see shadows here in. his his nieces have actually had experiences here and is just it's a creepy old house, but I wouldn't doubt. They're listening maybe. I don't know I mean that definitely. I've never had that happen. Now I've done I've done way more interviews than our public for people to hear I mean I've done were lots, hundreds and hundreds of them, and I've never had that happen that was different. That was it sounded `electronic. It sounded like like almost like a surge went through a speaker rumble. Very big closet. So I don't know what that could been so odd that that is I don't remember what I was thinking. Go ahead no. Good. I do have one other story because it's it's it's a little bit frustrating when people don't. Believe that have kind of gone through it. My when I was dating that guy, they told you when I lived there a lot of these experiences happen he actually told me story that happened him. So it's kind of weird that he was such a non believer kind of wanted to always explain things away it had to do with Excuse me his sister who had a Ouija board and His parents were very religious, very devout Catholic and even had. Worship at their house, every Sunday and but his sister she Had, a Ouija board with her friends and they were using it there. And he said that she was talking to some guy, he was nineteen years old and he told them that he had been shot I believe gang related. And can't remember the name. That he's gave them. You know it was like a whole description of this person. And he eventually, she said that when she would go to her friend's house and go different places, her aunt's House that this kid this guy would call her on the phone. And she was being taunted by this person that would know wherever she was going. He would end up calling and asking for her. and. What's crazy is real called her cello because her first name. Consuegra it's hard to pronounce, but does not her real name dodge everybody knew her. As her name. This being knew her real birth name and my ex said that he the phone rang one-time in he answered you picked it up. And like Columbus. Like an evil demonic voice, I can only picture like Baxter voice save get Maria. said, he can hear in the background. Screens like it was health like wailing and torment. He said, it was weird a sounded the background. So he said, he put the phone down was I. It's for you and she just started crying and she hung up the phone. and His parents she told her his parents again the the priest had to come and get rid of this thing because they couldn't get rid of the board just kept coming back. And so that when he told me that I think that's like all the things that I went over there and experience and what he went through to for him to be sown denial it's like well, you know everybody has an experience I? Feel like if you just ask somebody have you ever felt something or they'll tell you because I asked people all the time. They have you ever had anything happening in there's always a story a lot of people have stories, but also a lot of people have a threshold of what they're willing to believe. So you just have to understand that everybody is human and they have their own thresholds of belief But that said, I, mean, having a phone call like that where Jeez like it was. Like hell in the background, right? He said it was like echoey screaming and wailing just multiple people like he said, only thing I could think of in my head he said it was like you're hearing health. And this being said Rea- like evil demonic I'm like. I probably would have passed out I can't imagine and he was like for you. You know he just like I'm not dealing with this. Now. I mean it's for you. Know. Thanks. But yeah that's interesting. That's very interesting and I. I don't know what I'd do with that I i. mean we we've had her own little ev ev p Blip on the show today but I I don't know if that's technical or what, but it's still interesting but You know you mentioned about being in that Church service in hearing the angels singing now did anybody else hear that or is that just you? It was just me because my my really good friend was on the left in me and I'm looking at her and looking around everybody knows and asked her to did you hear that? Everybody just kept saying, no, we didn't hear anything was just worship was just the. The people singing at the time. The way it came about. It was just I remember just being like odd it's so beautiful and there were several it was like choir. A beautiful like voice choir was like. An I knew wasn't our church band. There's you know not to say they're they're not good but there was no way. Nobody else heard for me and unlike why and I was new in my Christianity. So maybe it was just presenting itself was so open to it. You know. It was just it was amazing. What did it sound like though I mean it sound like you know like a beautiful voice of acquire or did obviously you know when you watch a movie and it's about you know you share a pretty choir of a group of seamers and it's all high pitch voices like into. That's what it sounded like and I remember just being like. I didn't want it to stop. It was so beautiful. What about like language? Did it sound like it was an unknown language did almost sound familiar. Yijin say anything it was just. Like a constant. Like they were all in sync harmonizing. Okay. I got you. You know I I. Ask you these questions because a lot of times. People. Say They have heard you know angels or an angels singing in a Worship Service people say they've caught video of angels in Worship Services and there is a guy named Jason Upton and he is a Christian music guys a singer and he was leading or a worship service, and this was like a very big concert. I, mean we're talking thousands of people were in this like worship service and he singing his one song I believe it's called fly and At some point during this song fly, he gets in this like this state where he just carries a song out in the go for like fifteen minutes. And Google in this service, you hear this other like angelic. Voices harmony coming through and the sound guys were saying that they are checking their monitors. There's nothing wrong on their untechnical. Wise. But it was it was just like they said, it was beautiful and I heard it years ago and I just pulled it up again you, WanNa. Hear it. Yeah. I think I injured on Youtube but I want to hear it again. Yeah. Okay. So I'M GONNA I'm GonNa play this and you know let you hear what they would what you know this sounds like. Okay, yeah I'm not sure how long we're GONNA play. This says it's thirteen minutes but we'll see we'll just just plain see where it goes. New. Selena. Sticking. By. Is. You. A Wow. That's amazing. I was sitting here and I was getting shivers and goosebumps when I was hearing that like because. I I haven't heard that recording in years and My equipment is a lot better nowadays that used to be and the headphones I have really pull out vocals and so I I could hear the harmonies now for the audience listening he, he has He's up on stage singing by himself. There is no choir there's nobody singing with him. It's literally Jason Upton by himself singing on stage and his sound Guy Michael Look up into the ceiling and sees a mist coming into the room and he asked the janitor. What at that is the guy doesn't know and Michael said that he just felt like this holy. Fear come over him and he hid underneath the soundboard and then a little bit. Later, a boy comes up to his his soundboard looks underneath the soundboard and says, there's a really tall angel on the stage right now and he gets up and he looks at the soundboard and there's something harmonizing with Jason Upton on stage but I don't think you could hear it. On a live to your ear, but it caught it on recording and so what you what you just heard was not something that people were hearing from what I understand live but it was only after the fact when they listen to the recording, did they hear this harmonizing angelic? Bringing with jails yeah. You can hear it. Yeah. It's absolutely insane I find that stuff incredible and. Actually I think I have the Testimony of the sound guy, Johnson up talking about this, you want to hear that. Sure. Okay. Let me find it here. We go I think this is it. Okay we'll move on. What is For you. What is the most spiritual experience you've had while you're listening or performing? Either being a part of a team performing or listening to music. Tell me like a spiritual county hat in a nutshell. Go ahead Michael. Undoubtedly. We run. Alexandria Louisiana was when I was with Jason Upton and we went into this college auditorium and I basically just Put. The recorder on and let it go and we were doing soundcheck and I looked up to the ceiling and I started seeing this fog coming through and I figured it was just like the condenser air conditioner in the coil or something it's fog starts coming in the room I started feeling a whole lot of God all of a sudden. I really didn't put two and two together a little slow on the uptake sometime and so. I ask the janitor I said, Hey, what's that stuff coming out of the ceiling out there he looked out there and he said I don't know there's no pipes out there. So this holy fear kind of came over me, and meanwhile there's all these youth guys in there and they're real store and they got their arms crossed and everything. It's Kinda like see what you got on man you know one of those things. So we finished. We just started playing and it got to the point where got so thick and there that I jumped off stage and I went and jumped under the soundboard I mean I felt so much. God I was like Oh my God, at any minute something's just going to bust through and all of a sudden this little kid comes under under the soundboard he goes. There's A. Standard behind Jason Often. And you know what? I know I wasn't saying because I wasn't up there. William wasn't singing Jason Singing, but there's two and three part harmonies onto the room and. What in the world then I'm looking on the hard drive record in its recording and I'm thinking if this is on here when I play this back I'm GonNa, come out of my skin. So all of a sudden all this stuff happens all these guys. Oh. And Jason Look at Jason and he's station is is a rollback in his head he's teetering on his piano bench. I thought my God. He's trunk. I thought that was something that he did all the time and he starts saying. Diaa. He's completely lost. So all this stuff's going on right and it's happening in real time. So you're not even catching all of what's happening and then after the meeting I went up because we were rooming together I went up to get Jason off the stage she was completely plaster. But he'd never been in the spirit before so. This is. Michael. Lakes, and make a long story short he fell asleep in the dorm exactly like a drug. I would he just lay down on the bed with all this clothes on in his bag and he was gone. So the next morning I'm thinking was that real I went back to Nashville and I've been there with with this engineer I was producing the project and sitting on their we're going through all the material we get to the song fly, and all of a sudden I said, well, any minute now if that was really an angel and also. There's this perfect voice that comes. And I said we gotta find that and the engineer goes he goes Oh, that's just a psycho acoustic anomaly that's probably tom-tom ring or something, and so I thought Oh. Yeah. Well, let's find it then so we start going through we start. So on each channel not Tom tom-tom not a keyboard Bob we get through everything except Jason's vocal remember the kids there's a twelve foot angel behind Jason So. Jason. Vocal track and there's two way forms on there and one neither one and wasn't it. And you can see it and not only that but you can hear it in a guy goes. Well, that sounds like something standing like twelve foot behind Jason I said, I told you was an angel. Literally. Literally on that when you when you when that hard hits, it doesn't matter I mean you get hammered every time. So here's where it got really crazy. So all of a sudden, we start getting emails from Heidi Baker Group there. UNBEKNOWNST US when Jason's going It's Malawi for come to the table so. So Think. He's just this drunken guy in a stupor and he's actually so they play it when when the orphans are out to play the call him to lunch they play. And all the little kids come running in. So. There's. There's the story behind it. I mean it's just like that kind of stuff like I mean I I know people who listen to the show and stuff they're not everybody believes the same things that I do and that's fine. But for me, personally, those kind of things are faith builders for me and you know. We all just listened to that recording of the song and you heard the harmonizing going on with Jason. Now, Michael the sound guy here who said that testimony of what he experienced at the end there when he was talking about soloing out the tracks now I haven't heard this this testimony in years. I. Literally just listened to it with you for the first time. and. It all makes much more sense to me now that I do what I do because I run so many different tracks on on every episode that I'm putting things together and when i WanNa hear a specific track I solo it out so that I can't hear anything else except for that one track. So when he was talking about was they have their instruments go every instrument is going through its own microphone, its own channel owned track so that if something happens where the drums fall apart, they can actually take that out and not ruin the entire recording and so. What he was talking about was he truly went through every track of instrument and canceled it out to hear where they cancel out that that feedback to their thinking was until they got down to one track, which was the vocal microphone that Jason was singing into the piano and vocals just the buckles and that's where the recording was coming through with Jason's voice and so here Jason's singing. But there's also something coming through that microphone that wasn't Jason and there was course on stage I just thought for those those kind of things for me are things that just gives me goosebumps. Yeah and that's how I felt hearing that I got goosebumps on looking around like I can't be the only one hearing this but it was yeah I you know I've never heard anything like that in person and so I'm kind of envious that you did hear something like. You know but. Hearing the recording from Jason did it sound anything like that or or something? Totally different? See that to me when I heard his, it sounded more male whereas mine. It sounded more like many like women are higher pitched like. Just a a more harmony of a lot of sound like a lot of people like big choir spent more softer. Hi, you're more famine. Okay. I got you I. Got You. Yeah and I've heard different people's accounts of these things like you obviously I'm fascinated by the idea of angels and I think it comes from my childhood with my grandfather telling me stories of his experiences with them But you know people describe angels as twelve feet tall and then some other people say it was the same size as me and even. Even. In the Bible, it says that you should always be hospitable because you never know when you're in the presence of an Angel and Oh. Yeah and you also see how angels. Came into lots home ate dinner with him. So they they were human sized people looking right but they were angels able to transform their bodies and so I I just the idea of angels and what they're able to do and what they do is for me, it's fascinating I actually had an experience with that too. But now that you say that because I was going through a really nasty divorce around two thousand eleven. And I was telling defeated and just it was put through the ringer. But when I was walking out of court and this go by he had really bright blue. Eyes he looks at me out of nowhere I don't know who this person is. He just looks and goes. God. Says that everything's GonNa be okay. And I looked at him and I'm like I believe that you know because I was near my walk in he's like he just looked at me and I'm so I'd like thank you I walk away and I'm thinking was angel like or just a really nice person but I thought of that scripture you just never know. Exactly, and so. For me it's it's A. It's a cool thing. It's a comforting thing. And you know it's just it's fun to talk about this stuff I just I really enjoy it But with all these experiences that you've had, you had the experiences at the positive stuff the negative stuff I guess, you know Long Story Short you're out of these experiences knowing that there is something to this life of than just physical that we can feel NC. Yes and I believe that if we're looking for this, the dark is GonNa find you gotta be careful with what you're messing around with. Oh. Yeah. Absolutely and With that whatever it was that you saw the thing he said it was kneeling next to your bed and you swatted at it and you actually made contact. Now you said that. How did you describe it? You described it as like flesh that you could actually feel the flesh. Like. When you hit somebody like that sound, it was fleshy and it was that that sound because I hit it was my elbow and it was like pop and it was an assault like Warm like person. It wasn't cold like how I would think in my head if it was a scary, you know entity be freezing or. But it was like a real person just staring at me and it was forever. We're having staring contest like I. said, I was trying to wake up my boyfriend at the time was painting and I'm thinking this put him to sleep. How is he in such a deep sleep? Now, I was really trying to wake them up and. Kept staring at it and it was just looking at me it wasn't moving and I got so tired of being tired and I'm like I'm just going to touch it. So elbowed it made contact in like this is something that is a frequent person and I just I think I passed out being so afraid Yeah well. Where did he go? You know? What was he was just there to haunt me like it's weird like if somebody broke in because I'm thinking all this stuff the door would have been open or what have reacted and. It was just there. That's the biggest question that I have is what happened after you passed out I mean did it leave or did it stick around? What did you do did a jump around in the bed I don't know. I know and I wish we had cameras Dang and we didn't have phones like we do know is just I wish I have more questions than answers. But when I heard that one guy say that he went into the closet and he cut like I know that it's possible because it happened to me and I feel like if somebody had broken and it was a person or something, it would have been a different experience a lot to. France. Oh yeah absolutely. I think if you would elbowed somebody, they would've reacted in Hollywood remembered that I mean there. Even if it's a brief amount of time, there was a period of time from you making contact to you passing out. Were you able to consciously think that is something actually there will in that amount of time you would think a person like, Oh, you know or something like that. You know young and it did not budge it did not flinch it was straight in that spot and it was not moving you when you hit somebody in the kind of completion little 'cause I hit it pretty hard I went for it and in did not move and I thought what the Hell is. You know but it was it was just like a human link like just rushing head on its hands folded looking not me. And it just didn't move at all. Yeah. Well. I'm glad that nothing bad happened as far as you know and. I'll tell you what Michelle I appreciate coming on the show and sharing these experiences. It's been. It's been a very interesting conversation. Thank you so much and God. Bless you guys your family's awesome. Sure. Buddy I really hope you enjoyed it and if you didn't enjoy, please share the show with your friends. That's the best thing you can do to help this show gross just shared around your friends because that's something I can't do so please share the show. 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Meet Casey Hoyt and Michael Moore, Founders of VieMed, Largest Provider of Non-Invasive Ventilators in U. S.

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Meet Casey Hoyt and Michael Moore, Founders of VieMed, Largest Provider of Non-Invasive Ventilators in U. S.

"This is john swerved in you're listening to discover lafayette a podcast dedicated to the people and rich culture of lafayette the gateway to south louisiana. I'd like to thank our sponsors. Who make our podcast possible. We take our podcast with ongoing support of raider and jason sikora sound engineer. Reiter is a hands on. It service provider that integrates. All of your needs for advanced technical support. Effective communication options and cybersecurity. Writers motto is. You just wanted to work we understand. Please visit reiter solutions dot com for more information iberia bank and first horizon. Who are now one bank to relationship driven banks. Both in the industry have officially joined forces. The combination of iberia bank and first horizon creates a leading financial services company dedicated to enriching the lives of their clients associates in their communities. I'd also like to thank lafayette general health. Who has joined the national health family and is now auch ner lafayette general as one health system austere. Lafayette general will provide expanded services in enhanced care from the familiar faces. You already trust osh ner left. The general means more resources to help solve healthcare's toughest problems reinvesting in our communities and being further committed to health and wellness. Lafayette general together means more. Learn more today at together means more dot org. We're taping today in the beautiful offices of i'm ed in lafayette via med is the largest independent invasive ventilation therapy provider in the country originally founded sleep management in two thousand six by our guest. Casey hoyt and michael moore mad provides equipment and home based healthcare to serve patients with chronic obstructive pulmonary disease in other respiratory issues. Their patients have on average of five point four percent readmission right to hospitals versus the twenty percent industry standard. This success is not only wonderful for the patient but brings about a significant savings to hospitals who are reimbursed on the basis of patient. Outcomes by mad is experienced extraordinary growth and was the winner of the twenty twenty junior achievement of a katyushas large business of the year with the ongoing covid pandemic the company has been well situated to address respiratory issues while affording patients the ability to be treated in their own home and stay out of the hospital. I've read a vine meds incredible success and wanted to share their story with you and inspire other entrepreneurs who are dreaming up that next business success. So along with casey and mike. We've also got max. Hoyt father of casey who i know has been involved with you both from the beginning and we want to hear that family story as we move on. Why don't we just jump on and let you tell your story. Who would like to talk first. Casey would you like to start talking about your partnership and how you and mike got involved as business partners be glad to so thanks for having us gene appreciated. Mike and i have been friends since we were twenty years old I was introduced to him by a very close friend of mine. Brad dunphy who my best friend growing up was. Also one of mike's best friend and brad passed away about four or five years ago but He's still a major part of of our thoughts in our connection in our lives. But mike and i were just to business guys. He he was he was a hustler. I was watching him. Come up through the ranks working for a mom and pop durable medical equipment business. He was working for home. Care supply back in the late nineties. Early two thousands in and Homecare supply ended up getting purchased by praxair practiser then sold out to a big national demi competitor apropos and every time we got together just hanging out at the in college whatnot and just different parties and stuff. We'd always end up talking business and so you know whatever. It came time for mike to really make a move with from africa to on his own. He knew that i was running my family business with With my dad i I had a trade show exhibit company. Called neom lock louisiana which was a spin off from max's original pixes digital printing business and after i got out of college took me about two years before i was like that. You know maybe. If if i make a run at this in call it my own. We can increase graphic volume far picks us and so that's the genesis of how lock louisiana was created. Now you guys were both working as young men in college in sales and feels that most college students don't think about. Is that a family trait for both of you. Not for me. I grew up in leon. Ville really on a form of a welding and fabrication shop so was unusual to go off to any school or college and especially in the medical field actually. Toronto chose the profession. I think you know the time i was seventeen. There were a lot of girls in in that profession that drew me into the respiratory therapy field. And i got into it and enjoyed it. I like the patient aspect of it. went to work for a company. Very small company learn the business but immediately became a sales rep. Didn't have any sales training or knowledge of how or where to begin but i. I was good with managing relationships Creating relationships reading people just the fundamentals of selling anything regardless of what you're selling in case somebody came naturally you also well. I was raised by dad to be a hard worker and we upheld jobs in throughout college. I actually since. I was fifteen years old. My first job was at Diners busboy of always had a rate a lawn service. Before i've waited tables of work for a catering company Biggest sales job. That really taught me a lot about having skin was selling alarms door to door for eighty t in college and we say back in those days you gotta get twenty five knows to get to one. Yes but but you know that helped me to learn how to work with others and for others and just at the end of the day you know i could see that the successful people in every organization that was in where the hardest workers not the ones with the most knowledge the most experienced and so forth. And so that's always been at our core over here. At by mid samak's i know that you have quite an entrepreneurial background and even courage casey and mike from the beginning from their earliest days. Casey's quite a chip off the old block. Would you please share your involvement in this enterprise. Earl actually myself and Brother fred we've also started several businesses of our own and so forth and we are very flat and look back at it as we grew up around the kitchen table where her mother and father were in a Hoyt refrigeration hoyt manufacturing business. Behind the all the The lafayette airport and hearing about the day to day issues of employees and customers and product delivery and lead times. And what we have to do to satisfy to get there so business Came naturally to us. Because we heard that every day around the kitchen table and same thing for casey. My other son spencer and so all of them have kind of grown up to be have multiple businesses of their own. So if we can fast forward done you guys were both in sales and it was in two thousand six. You started sleep management. Who wants to jump in on that. Would you talk about what it was like to start that company and and what brought that about. I mean mike was ready to make a shift and he was the restaurant. There is that new business. He knew about all the relationships in town we we had a vision of keeping the company a respiratory related business. And in order to do that we had to call on palm. Knowledge is an internal medicine so and so forth. He ended the relationship but he didn't know how to run a business. Knew he knew that. I was running my trade show exhibit business. I'd probably about a three million dollar top line business at that point in time with with by twelve employees said casey look. I got the relations Relationships and up. I need help with running the company and so it was a good fit was a good marriage and started sleep management back in two thousand six always tell the story of the first month we were in business. We had thirty. Two's one hundred. See pats come through the door i mean. That's how deep mike's relationships were. How good of a salesman. That he was in so we. We had a tiger by the tail. From the minute we turn on the light switch. And it's been that way we've we've stayed within our core and we've we've been very respiratory focus that's These days we we do. Have our eyes set on other chronic diseases for the future this business in the further diversification. But getting back to our origination. I mean that that's it was just two guys coming together. One skill set of sales and the other hand the skill set of of management at that point in time. I have a question. My husband actually uses a cpap. I didn't realize the extent issues. People have with sleep management with breathing. Sleep apnea. I didn't realize how big the market was. So when you got into it. Max had mentioned to me that there were really a lot of hoops to go through to be diagnosed. Patients had to go through physicians and it was sometimes difficult to be diagnosed. And i guess to get appropriate care. Did your company make treatment more accessible to more people. Would you talk about that. Yes so so our evolution into the apnea business. We've always provided c-pap. We used to one time. Colin sleep labs which is where the you know the origination of a positive patient for a apnea would start. two thousand. Eight medicare changed the rules and started allowing home sleep testing so we made a big push to get. You know some of the local labs on board and really failed But we needed. The writing was on the wall so we took a big leap of faith opened up a company called home sleep. Delivered was the first home sleep testing company in the state of louisiana. Probably one of five in the country at the time payers weren't even paying for the actual procedure. But we knew that the it was around the corner so we we got into that business head first and have since then grown you know that businesses throughout the state It's a home sleep test. Patient gets the device melt their home. It smelled back and then now the therapy for that patient has all sent through the mail setup via why upset on video call essentially so this cove world that we live in coincidentally. It's the perfect model. And we've seen that business continue to grow and grow yet today around acadia most people still consider us a apnea business but the fact is that sleep apnea makes up only five percent of our total revenue. We that led us into treating more sick long. Copd types of patients and what the the evolution in the home sleep story is an important one because when we embrace the new sales pitch and new innovation and went out in in change the way that people did business in the sleep apnea world. That was something that are manufactured. Rc pats which was phillips. Keeping a very watchful eye on they saw the transition. They saw mike in case buddy and their nose and a new paradigm shift right and so when they were looking for somebody to bring the home ventilator to the marketplace we kind of fit the description of the the company that might get it done and so they brought in the the the trilogy noninvasive ventilator to us and said guys we We're looking at about twenty. These this month was the quote from our our our rep at the time and and what we've found is we went out to the pulmonologist around town. We ended up getting twenty in the first month. And it wasn't because we're super salespeople it was because of the need was out there and you had frequent flyer types of patients that are struggling with a chronic disease. That's terminal not going away. It's only getting worse. And so it's the pulmonologist jobs docs job. Just keep that patient comfortable in any means necessary any tool that's available to them and so whenever we got to the point where we didn't have to intubate the patient who didn't have to cut a hole near net jam it down their throat we can now ventilate the lungs with a cpap mask if you will and hook it up to the ventilator that was a game changer for us and so you know that was the go ahead just in two thousand twelve cracked said till that time people that needed help to get the co two out of their longs to get help breathing. They would just end up over and over in the hospital. They didn't have anything that was really effective at home to help them. So i guess some people would card around oxygen tanks. like how did they. How did they get help at home. I mean they essentially had a shorter lifespan. As a result of not having access to that technology to treat the disease in the home. You know those patients were they were repeat offenders in the hospital that was the the sequence and that was kind of how they ended their life dying in the hospital so not only is it a quality of life issue but now the hospital's reimbursement rate has been flipped on its head. They're not paid per visit their now looking. Especially with medicare and medicaid. They're paid on patient based outcomes. So you're timing with us and philips timing in developing the Phillips timing in developing need device was incredible. Janet's still new. Okay so this is the. This is the market opportunity for our business. We're a publicly traded company. We have a five percent market penetration with this product so that means that ninety five percent of the patients who qualify for are going back into the hospital without a home solution. Why is that. it's just because it's still new at. It's still something that we're educating physicians around the country on the efficacy of this treatment and so we've invested in multiple studies with kpmg and harvard medical school to really prove the good that we've been doing in the home for every six patients that we put on therapy we save a life. It's sixteen percent reduction of mortality with our with our treatment and we also prevent hospitalizations to the tune of we save over twenty thousand dollars per patient per year by treating them in the home or treating them in the hospital who has came j. I saw that. Online and g and harvard did studies. What was that about. Kpmg is one of the big four accounting firms. I mean they're they're huge. They're worldwide. I mean you can see phil mickelson sponsored by kpmg in the masters Big company but there they are numbers driven. They're there there. It was a cost an analytical study and the reason we did a second study is we needed more of a a clinically driven publishable. Study so we took to precision economics and harvard medical school and said look. This is what we found with. Kpmg what do we need to do to publish. And they they beefed up the amount of patients that were in the study. They added six more months of Of data and we found very similar results that we did in kpmg and so we have those two studies to now prove the good that we've all known since two thousand twelve to the physicians that you know are questioning whether or not this works or not so hopefully. We'll we'll make a dent in that market penetration number as a result of having those studies. So how many employees do you guys have now with full time and part time. We're probably close to eight hundred. No we're at five hundred part time i got you. Oh yeah right we have contact tracing a call center that brings eight hundred roughly about one hundred and sixty two hundred seventy in this building right here and we're spread out across thirty nine states today with our core business and then we've just recently hired another two hundred plus for our arizona contact tracing call center. Our model is the way we've been able to grow. So rapidly is that we do not have a need for brick and mortar with our business model so there are some states that requires to have brick and mortar facilities. But it's just it's not a function of what we do we have respiratory therapists that are operating out of their vehicles very lean and mean they're monitored by gps and they they respond. They're trying to be to respond faster than the competitor and really to drop what they're doing and go the for whatever. The patient needs very patient center driven company. That's something that. Mike taught us back in the day. Just with his clinical background and We've remained throughout the years of just putting the patient first no matter what and letting the chips fall into place how is the Telehealth telemedicine technology affected your model and change things. How do you deliver education now. How has all of these improvements helped your business. It's it's a. I'll i'll take it but It's been very helpful. The we created. We were investing in a patient. Engagement platform or technology hub. If you will that is in the home and it talks to all the bluetooth connected devices that are inside of the home reports back to our patients and then it has a telehealth arm to it as well that was being developed it was actually in pilot mode back in march whenever the pandemic started so we really fast tracked it. Its delivery because we needed to keep number one. Our patients safe number to our clinician safe during the pandemic so we blasted it out with a a smartphone app as well but and we've got about thirty five hundred patients on it today the The way that it has affected us. It's made us more efficient. With our workflows. It's allowed patients to really interact with our therapists on more frequent basis. So it's driving more positive outcomes for us. It's also changing the way that doctors are interacting with patients. You know. I think the biggest thing that the pandemic done for us. It's the adoption from the physician community to tell a health is now a real thing we've seen. Cms make regularly t regulatory changes. That are it's here to stay and so our technology platform couldn't come on at a better time and it's it's definitely helped us get more efficient and get provide better care. Yeah i think the pandemic will always be remembered as the pandemic but in our world the speed at which things got approved and that the velocity at which technology has been embraced covered and paid for and welcome. Is the thing that you know. I'll remember the most from this pandemic because things the way that we were seeing patients in managing patients prior to all everything when our wishlist that should've been approved and recognized almost all got expedited ninety eight percent of a short period of time. Not because it was new because it was needed. And you got all of the you know the The technicalities in the policies out of the way to prevent those things from being used to iran on your website about your patient care coordinators helping patients in the transition from hospital to home to go much smoother and safer. Can some people. Just avoid this hospital visit altogether. When most cases are patients their chronic there that stage four level of pd. Where they're you know they're at the end of life. They can hardly get the mailbox or hardly get out of the house when we take over when we intervene with that patient are therapy. Our clinicians are compliance almost drives at patient in reverse in the stages of copd. All of a sudden they can get out of the home. They can walk. They can exercise. They can visit with their grandkids. It provides them a spark. You can't reverse. Copd you can't cure copd but what we can do is alleviate you know those events that would ordinarily put that patient into a hospital and in most cases of severe copd patient if they catch pneumonia. That's a death sentence patients on die from copd they they die from the issues that affect their lungs that you know as a result of having copd. They can't fix it can't cure. They can't get rid of that infection or that pneumonia. So we prolong the life of that patient and more importantly just things that they're able to do from that period of time that they read it so copd. Patient basically loses the elasticity in of the lungs. If you have a balloon you blow it up with air if you let the air out. You don't have to force that air out. It's a elasticity function so at the copd patient. They actually have a harder time getting air out of their lungs. They can breathe but then they can't push out so when the ally when the lungs become infiltrated with fluid or pneumonia fifty times harder for that patient to get rid of. You know what's in their long stephen to cough tavern induced call for their productive. That's that's a challenge for a copd patient a really easy way to experience what it's like to be a copd patient if you take a straw you know normal fully full length straw and you breathe out and you make a good seal around it. It's hard to breathe out of with you cut off two or three inches. That's essentially like you know. The first cut is giving that patient a bronco. Dial later the second cut is given that patient. Oxygen third cut is fully. Allow that patient ventilators. It's as simple exercise. That really allows you to feel what it's like to not be able to push out and and get aaron. How do you guys feel about what you're doing. You're really helping so many people it's It's very rewarding in an from my perspective of not being a clinician in getting into this business as businessman it it To see patients coming through the door willing to give you a bear hug from time to time. Just thank you for what you're doing for me out there and it's it's a warm business right but then to see the data and come out and see that for every six to eight patients with these two studies that we save a life and to start looking back and we have eight thousand active patients today over the years. You know we've had probably fifty thousand patients that have come through our system and that think about how many lives we've touched and and extended and improve the quality of life. It's it's one of those things that you wake up every day and you lose sleep at night over not what's going to affect this business. You lose sleep at night over the growth. Because how do we go grow more. Because the more we momentum we give to this business the more lives we will save. And that's the way everybody thinks around here in this company. We're just a big batch of clinicians that are trying to help a lot of people fast so when covid head you really had to pivot. You are the largest supplier of noninvasive ventilators. Yes we were called. Upon because we are ventilator company so hospitals physicians states looked at us as the ventilator company when really. We were a company that treated patients with sick lungs. Just happen to have a lot of vin inventory on hand and relationships with manufacturers in order to get more inventory so we were in a perfect spot Not by design. But we were able to help you know probably fifteen or sixteen states that could not find a ventilator anywhere in the world let alone the country and we were able to get them ventilators patients taken care of and really manage the surge that so many people talked about and watched on. Tv as these numbers continue to go up and our ability to teach hospitals and even clinicians how to use various ventilators was really are probably our biggest strength. We made videos. You know no matter. Forty eight hours. We had thirty videos how to professionally. Assemble a ventilator use. It deployed in different circumstances in scenarios with different patients different levels of severity. We made a library. And i think we thousands and thousands of views and it was from all over the country and it was clinicians that were good clinicians but had never seen on ventilator galveston have to treat a patient in the hospital with a home ventilator. That looks foreign to them. So that was our biggest strength to be able to deploy you know the resources around not only getting asset knowing how to work it. When you're saying various types of ventilators. I guess when i picture a ventilator i think that traditional method where you have to have a tracheotomy at the beginning of covid i know they were putting more people on ventilators probably way too soon. But they didn't know people couldn't breathe and they were desperate for breath. I know that's evolved now hospitals. No it's not always best to go with a ventilator is this non invasive therapy different than the traditional ventilators so the the modes the therapy and the ability to push and philip the long and ventilated patient is very similar It's just doing it through a mask. That's a sealed mask that covers the nose the mouth what's changed clinically. Throughout the country is the patients that are less severe they have. They may have a lower lower to sad but they're not immediately intimating that patient. They're putting that patient will noninvasive ventilation. Which is what we specialize in and weaning. That patient of noninvasive ventilation before having to intubate unit debating. a patient is very traumatic. You know the longer that your own ventilator the higher the chances or infection and other things outside of ventilation that can go wrong with that patient. And that's why you saw big spike you know early on in the deaths associated with invasive ventilation now the protocols throughout the country have drastically changed and even the medications have changed so clinicians are armed with more tools if you will to treat these patients whereas the beginning no one knew what what this was the beginning of his intimate soon quick fast and then and then it started morphing into wait. Let's take it easy on the lungs which played into the noninvasive ventilation world before we blow up the long with all that hundred percent. Oxygen is still you know as a primary treatment when you get into the hospital. Even you know a lot of patients that are testing positive for covid probably would have been hospitalized before they're sending those patients home and prescribing oxygen. And having them monitor the oxygen with a pulse ox which we can do that now. Monitor that patient from the office so we know in that patients desaturate and before. The patient even knows that that's going on so again and the evolution of being able to monitor a patient in the home you know is critical and it's happening throughout the country. Where most of your patients are. They still in this region the southeast united states. I know you're across the country. But where the bulk of your patients. We're we're very strong in louisiana because this is where we started. But if you think about where. Copd is typically where we have landed in our core is and that's that's from the deep south on up to the coal miners belt in kentucky and west virginia and tennessee and and things of that nature where we're strong in missouri and oklahoma and texas. Copd is more dominant in rural pockets of the country versus metropolitan for whatever reason so our business has landed seventy five percent in the rural sectors of the country and in twenty five percent in the metropolitan zones just by natural default. Smoking typically what brings on copd. Yes yeah. cop smoking and you know in the va there three times more likely to have copd or experience struggles with copd because of the fumes and things that they're exposed to at war and and whatnot but Primarily it's it's smoking agent. Orange was a big played a role in a lot of the lung issues with some of these veterans. And you know we talk a lot about copd but we also treat ls patients throughout the country that all ended up all non invasive ventilation and the pediatric patients which are mostly invasive ventilation We also do that throughout the country. Now so Preemie that's born with respiratory syndrome or some issue where they're not able to breathe on their own. Oftentimes those patients or in the family or the caregivers are taught how to ventilate that patient on a ventilator in the hospital once they're all sound and you know. The hospital feels comfortable that they can go home. We transition that patient from the hospital to the home in some cases these patients will keep a ventilator ten twenty twenty five years another story about the help how you got your start and that help or maybe sitting right here at the table. Well we started it on our own but we we we darn near grew ourselves out of business and probably year two and the way that this business works is it's residual the more you sell on the front end. You get paid a schedule. Mike and i were selling so much that we were literally growing ourselves out of business and so we got a point where we needed some support more funding in that inter. Inter max hoyt into the business made a tv show. It's called shark tank out there very common and so forth so i just look like they needed a ten percent partner. They just didn't realize that time they they let me invest you know at that point in time been a great mentor to to both of us i mean he treats mike like a son and You know sometimes in our business relationship these two right here. Mike and max get along even better than than than the father son and yet But yeah no. He's he's been a great help to us and advancing our careers. I'll say this when you're in your twenties and you're growing a business you know tin foil. There's things that you just don't know. And a lot of those things he had gone through and know there was a point in time where he kept us out of the ditch Quite often in fact and some of those scenarios if you look back if we had not survived some of those bumps in the road. I don't know that we'd be sitting around this table. So all those things are they come back twenty. Fold but things that we just didn't know you guys have advice for burgeoning entrepreneurs things you've learned things you'd like to share you know i mentor. Ship is huge on. This is a nice segue to that. I even have a mentor. Our chairman of the board right now randi dobbs. It's good to some time to have a mentor and a coach. That's even outside of your family. On some level that max played a nice role with with mike and and randy plays a real nice role for me and i know that dad would agree with that but the the ability to understand that you don't have everything figured out and that there's other people out there that can help you if you collaborate with them i think is probably the most powerful piece for advancing a business. And it's just you know coming to terms with that as a business owner can sometimes be a struggle. Because this is your baby you started from the ground up you have the you had the vision the idea you know how to run it but then just getting another opinion from the outside. It's can be so valuable. Would you say a partnership you hear. Oftentimes how these partnerships rarely work out our seems to have worked out wonderfully and i you know looking back What's important in a partnership. We always have wonderful ideas like thousands of them. Rarely do they all work but when one one are both you know. Have a bad idea. And it doesn't work to continuously back one another up and you know once the employees no and the managers know that these two people in these three people have one have their back like you. Avoid a lot of drama. You avoid a lot of unnecessary issues and that's really what keeps the harmony you know going. It keeps things. Exciting is the fact that you might have a bad idea. I might have a bad idea. But we're not gonna talk about it for more than five seconds. If it doesn't work we're going to focus on what's working. Put that behind us and you know and once you know it's it's It's hard to explain. But it's a feeling and it's it's just a culture that we've built around us and we've surrounded ourselves with like minded individuals and i like to say we surround ourselves with people that are smarter than ask because it's just it's necessary in any business that's growing at the rate that we are. You guys have focused on the home health industry. But i get the idea that you really sell anything he put your mind to. Do you think you'll stay in home. Health as you grow and expand. We have a a wonderful engine over here at five med with a lot of good people. And we've we've brought many different products into the fold. And and like mike said we've we've failed at some dust ourselves off and succeeded at at others so so vi- met as as you look at where we're headed. It's we're our average length of stay with our patient is seventeen months if you think about l. ese grew or medicines. These big home health guys. They have to get out of the home and six ninety days. That's regulatory thing. We really build relationships with with our patients and our families we become the primary point of healthcare so it leads us down the path of how how can we leverage that. And how can we be more helpful while we're in the home. What other products that that can we offer. That are not going to be too far out of bounds from what we do. Today we have a wonderful network of clinicians that are all sales people that can bring different messages and different tools to physicians and so on so forth so that has our head coin down. Technology offering technology solutions to help be more efficient in the home and can be more valuable physicians but we We'll probably always stay within healthcare with the with the by med mission as as entrepreneurs and you make money you put money in your pocket. You do other investments. you know we. We put our money to work. Mike and i are both pretty good at that but we don't do things that will take us away from day to day requirement from that That environment as we close. Could you share. Why you're living here. I mean you guys could live anywhere in much larger regions. Why are you living here in lafayette. So when we went public we did so by way of an acquisition. They acquired us and they hired me and mike to be the president of the entire public company at that point time the headquarters was in california and they were kind of leading us to think that they wanted us to move to california and we we just dug our heels in and we said absolutely not. I mean the thing that i love most about being in in lafayette is just the people and the culture and the entrepreneurial spirit that is inside of this town there are people walking around that. Just want to see you succeed. They want to help you succeed. They love to hear these types of stories that you're you're digging into right now today jan and you know i think that is what makes this community special is. We're not sitting here as a cutthroat competitors looking across the street or anything like that. We're we're all genuinely trying to help others. Climb the ladder when as we've had to grow this business recruit talent outside of lafayette outside of louisiana in some cases outside of the country. Were probably batting a thousand when we get someone in here for that you know two or three day tour which is usually you know. Max has a role. Casey have a role we take them out to dinner. We take them to the best spots and we always end it with hunt usually if it's hunting season or fishing trip it's rare that someone says while i couldn't you know see this place and call it my home and we've been very successful with getting out of staters and folks from out of the country to move here approve their entire family and they're still here no one's left and they they love it they about it and the culture here and the people here is something that you know. An i travel a lot case. Travels a lot. You know we all we know what it's like outside of louisiana and there's pros and cons but there's something about this place that you know will lure you in and keep you here you centered and it's just a. It's a great place to grow up and raise kids here. But lafayette has a lot of advantages and our fiber network. Certainly you know help to keep us on cutting technological age and so we have all the tools here that you can't move to the silicon valley or elsewhere in the world and still have any better. You know services that we have right here that that our city is often so it's a combination of our people and technology and culture and crawfish. I wanna thank you all for being here with us today. Casey hoyt michael moore max. Hoyt thank you so much for sharing your story. And you didn't hear the intro that we normally do but this podcast is called. Discover lafayette because it's such a thrill to share the success stories of people like you choose to to raise their families here and stay in lafayette. Make our community great. So thank you for taking time today. Busy or i'd like to thank our listeners to so grateful for your continued support and I know you've enjoyed this story. Is i have you can find this story and tell your friends about it at discover lafayette dot net or even better. 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Managing Wildfire Through Cultural Burning

Short Wave

12:43 min | 6 months ago

Managing Wildfire Through Cultural Burning

"You're listening to shortwave. From NPR. Hey everybody emily here with NPR climate correspondent Lauren Summer Hey Lauren hey emily. So in California where you are this week, the state set a record for the most acres burned in any fire season more than two million acres so far and in an average fire season in California around three hundred, thousand acres burn. So things are bad. Yeah it definitely is I mean I'm in the bay area and when I woke up this morning, the sky is completely full of smoke. Because there's three huge fires burning all around this whole area But. You know today I'm actually not here to talk about those kind of destructive fires. I'm your talk about good fire good fire. Okay. This kind of fire. It actually has an incredibly long history and one that was erased for many decades and I got to see it in the Sierra Nevada foothills. Morning. There around sixty people gathered in this oak woodlands and this was back in February and everyone was standing in a big circle. So what we're doing out here is. Restoring life. That's on good. He's tribal chairman of the North Fork Mo-. He brought this group together from Tribes Around Northern California furthest to day ceremony to do what's known as cultural burning early setting low grade fires on the landscape Rio put fire on the ground in not know how it's going to turn out. That's what makes it cultural burning. Because we call to vague. So cultural burning these aren't like the big wildfires you see on the news at all. These kind of fires there controlled and their low to the ground. They basically clean up the overgrown brush that that would be the fuel for those really big fires native American tribes burned hundreds of thousands of acres sway in Cultural Burns you know used to at least right used to before settler colonialism arrived and many tribes were forcibly removed from their land exactly which is why this ceremony is is really. Interesting because good invited people from the state and federal government. You know those are the entities that largely band cultural burning a century ago. But California has since realize there's no way to reduce the risk of extreme wildfires without using his good fire on the landscape including cultural burns. So they're starting to work together but I bill Leonard who's tribal chairman of the southern Sierra me walk needs to a blessing. Today on the show how native American tribes are trying to restore traditional burning on the lands where they once lived. And how these burn smae Help California, get a handle on destructive wildfires in the future. You're listening to shortwave the daily science podcast from NPR. So Lauren. You were telling us about how in February. You were heading out with a group of tribes from Northern California conducting a cultural burn very cool. But I, tell me how cultural burns are different from say. Or prescribed burns something I know the Forest Service does yeah. The service and other fire agencies they set controlled fires to, and that's for the vegetation they WANNA, get rid of it so that there's not too much that builds up because overgrown vegetation can make fires more extreme. Cultural burning it does that too but the tribes also do it to encourage certain plants to grow. Like the first thing that team did that day was actually a harvest, Oh yeah. They headed out to some tall bushes sour berries, which is also known as three Samak and you know this was winter. So there were these long spindly branches that were totally bare of leaves. So my mom is basket lever. That's why I meant Ragu Taras I'm reggae tears. Mahu Newnan Rageh Tears He. He's clipping. The longest straightest branches are used in traditional basket weaving and then after being harvested, the plant is burned to encourage more growth like that. All our basket material needs to be tended to in some way. So they need to be burned and then next year we'll probably have sticks that are sick seventeen, tom one year. fired. Oh. So does the fire burn the plant completely? Yes completely to the ground, and it really actually happens pretty fast but the rootstock stays alive. So you know after the spring rains come the plant will re sprout got in the harvest can kind of happen again. Yeah and I know some plants in California they're kind of used to being burned regularly. Yeah. Yeah. I, mean I think a lot of. People forget this but they're adapted to regular fires I mean historically, those are both naturally caused fires by lightning, and then there were fire set by tribes and Ron says they burned like this for Millennia to encourage plant growth also to shape the landscape to attract certain game for a lot of reasons when I was a kid I learned from my mother. My mother got in trouble when she burned because the fire department you know didn't want her doing what we're doing today. As you probably know white settlers had a very different take on fire they came with their concepts of being afraid to fire. Then, you didn't understand fire in the sense of the tool that it could be. To create and what it did to help, generate and rejuvenate the land. And let's not forget. There's a bigger history here when when white settlers arrived in California in the eighteen hundreds there was an intentional and violent campaign to destroy their tribal culture I spoke to Beth rose Middleton manning about that She's Professor of Native American Studies at UC Davis, and she brought her students that day to be part of a ceremony. There was actually a a bounty on California. Indian people The governor had announced a war of extermination. So you have all that. and. It really fostered removal settler ownership of indigenous lands. So tribal burning basically stopped and fast forward a couple of decades to the early nineteen hundreds, and that's when the federal government began an era of fire suppression. Please be careful with fire. That's the whole smokey the bear era, right? Yeah. Make, sure your fire is dead. Remember only you can prevent forest fires. Yeah. It's just interesting that the legacy of this idea that fire is always something that's bad and that has to be put out continued from settler colonialism onwards. Yeah. Definitely I mean up until the nineteen seventies the forest service had this rule they called the ten am rule it was basically that all fires should be put out by tanning him the next day but all that suppression, you know it caused a lot of vegetation to build up in California, the force became denser and that set the stage for extreme destructive fires. So fire matters of realizing that has to change and they started embracing prescribe burns a now we're slowly being open to cultural burning too. So that brings us to today where western states are grappling with how to manage wildfire season, and you're going to talk about how cultural burns kind of fit into that right and so ron and other tribal leaders have been trying to restore cultural burning for a while and you know not just teaching the concepts of people but actually bringing out the land to practice it, and that's not easy to do when the land is. No longer legally there's as as Beth rose described to me I think it's really important that we don't think about traditional burning as what information can we learn from native people about how they care for the land and then exclude people and move. On, with non natives managing the land, but the native people are at the forefront and our leading. Okay. So this event is maybe a way to do that. Yeah which is why Ron invited these government officials to participate and kind of get their hands dirty during the ceremony You know like Jennifer Montgomery she directs California's Forest Management Task. Force. So it's her job to figure out how to deal with all these overgrown for us and she was there helping light this fire in a big grassy field using a drip porch that was super empowering. I mean I think every woman should get a chance to use a drip torch is that like a flame thrower or something? Not Not. Quite It's it's like a watering can lighter thing that basically spilled out fire instead of water. That's pretty cool. So yeah yeah I mean by the time she was done there was this kind of giant line of fire that that kind of spread out pretty quickly across this entire field but remember this was February winters. So it the fire burned itself out pretty quickly. and. Then all that dried brushes just gone and It's It's an opportunity for me to really see how effective cultural fire can be in addressing the issues we have around uncontrolled wildfire the the work that we did today if a fire comes through there, it will drop down to the ground. I'm frankly at may given the right circumstances just stop the fire entirely on its own. That is a big shift in thinking from the government's historical stance. And California has goal to reduce the vegetation on half a million acres and the federal government has the same goal for their land. So this is a million acres total well, and they're nowhere near that at this point. Okay. So you've basically got the government which has a lot of land and needs a lot of work to be done, and then tribes who have little access to their own ancestral lands and WanNa. Be doing more of this and they're working in a kind of partnership. Yeah. They're working on kind of forming it at least at this point I, mean a few other California tribes the Uruk and the Karoo. They have agreements with the forest service to manage land with cultural fire, and some of that is public land you know but there's still a long way to go and a lot of California counties you. Actually, need a special permit to do this because you know air officials don't want a lot of smoke in the air on days when there's already concerns about air quality. So some counties have created a special tribal burn permit to make it easier for them, but you know some haven't so going back to ron good. The tribal chairman just given everything his tribe has been through what is his outlook, these days and? Looking into the future he told me no matter what you're facing. All you can do is work on your own backyard and his backyard goes across four counties as he says. So that's what Ron spent his like doing is trying to spread this knowledge I can teach from the book can teach in the classroom. I. Can show you videos. But Hey, let me take you out on the land and let you do it. Let you really see and find out what it's all about right Oh. There's no better teaching than that and when he said that it was the very end of the day, you know the sun was setting I was I caught up with him as he was looking out across that field, which was totally black and burnt, and and it was still kind of smoking a little bit excited. I'm elated because I'm looking around at. What we've done. And what we've accomplished. How beautiful the land is is is looking and it is. It is. Not. Everyone would see that I think but that's what he's trying to change. Lauren thanks so much for taking US along with you to to see this and experience. Thanks I'm only. This episode was produced by Brent Bachman backtracked by Rebecca Ramirez and edited by I've yet life I'm Emily Kwong, thanks for listening to shortwave from. NPR.

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Double Xp Ep 5

Paradigm Shift Wrestling

1:12:45 hr | Last week

Double Xp Ep 5

"La win green riot. Hello hello everyone. Welcome welcome it is episode five of double x. p. can we believe it episode five already lance. I know right super exciting superintendent before we get started. I just wanna say that. I have the reins for this week. So expect some technical difficulties. Because i am learning so so. I've practiced a little bit beforehand but obviously this is my first live show which us luck. We've got this okay. She's got this she's got it all right so please like share follow all that usual stuff Go to pinfall stream. Add like them if you haven't already and all the other shows because we've got a lot of awesome shows on here everybody is rate. Everybody is fantastic. I love it and the big news for this week. We are dry for one hundred member apple tonight. Yes we are. Yes we are everyone we read get pumped hannity hundred twenty one members last. I checked i gotta make a new member post. Thank everyone that is here right right okay. So we've got tyler you were first. You're absolutely correct Tracy tracy for sharing the post. I appreciate it yemen. Thanks cat woo woo. Yeah germay raid master. That's what it's called yes. Tyler is definitely right and hello avery and hello michael. Hi everyone and jeremy. I don't know if i got you. I don't know if i did. I'm terribly if i completely ignored you. I might have you know would be the first time so kirsty. You're making it rain. Yeah exactly myself. That was cheesiest continue. It was bad. Is that yeah. It definitely was. But you don't wanna try we'll let it slide Okay so this evening with our new releases. I just want to have a full disclaimer. I think everyone in the gaming industry was confused this week. Because i had its. It took me like three hours to get like six games. I spent thirty minutes on one. Nobody knows what anything's coming out. Nobody knows what consoles is coming out on. I apologize for any confusion ahead of time. I think. I got everything right of what i got tonight. But there's a couple titles. I left out because i had no idea i really had no idea. So justice claiming that before we get into things but all right I'm gonna go ahead and let punisher read that while i hang on. Listen look at this bail. All right okay. I shall also i want to say that's a lot of work putting in for this. Listen you did great. You did great. No licit go on. I will okay so on the eighteenth. Which is i'm sorry. What calendar tomorrow. Here we go. All right Anodyne to return to dusk comes out for the playstation xbox and it's a switch release boom blaster for xbox pc and the switch it comes out on the nineteenth on the nineteenth we have. Steven universe unleashed the light for switch his four xbox one and pc on the twenty second taxi chaos for xbox he has four and on the twenty third comes out for switch on the twenty third. We have persona five strikers Hold on which is released for. Ps four and you can get on the nineteenth of the deluxe edition and saw erin release is yes sorry but this is the western release. It is i which in p. c. okay rogue heroes ruins of tastes house tostados for pc and switch and curse the dead gods for ps four xbox one and switch on the twenty four th we have where will the apocalypse are the forest for xbox one in ps four Retrace memories of death swish for sure not yet on xbox and couldn't find for sure. Ps four but it's supposed to be okay. I know that's really vague. And you did. Good cat Taxi chaos. It's like that. What is that It was on three sixty. What was the name of it. It was it was very similar. I played it. I was reading earlier. Oh my god somebody helped me out in your. I think it's it's like something the lines of that like crazy taxi or something like that. But it's a from what i remember. You just like pick people up and drive them around and smash into everything and it's like very violent but and like a war car away Paxi okay yes that is it gene. Thank you. I was really struggling there and i. That's very simple but yes Can we make it in. Gte at all right. let's hit. There's these guys i can't remember all of them but they used to play. They probably still do a lot of mods for gta on the pc and they had like a whole youtube channel. It's like oh gosh wildcats and noga and a bunch of those other guys. I know they're kind of like. I know no-go plays with that. Disc- was it disguised host. The among us guy. Yeah they all are interchangeable but they have all kinds of crazy stuff. Like that. And i wouldn't be surprised if that was in there all right now. Moving on i am beginning my buttons and make sure i have everything straight here We actually had some changes for game pass on xbox games that are coming in and ones that are leaving. there's also some deal sees and updates. That are coming. Some of them are for a limited amount of time. So i would look into those. Because i didn't list all of them. I'm not gonna lie. I know shame on me. Shame on me but Code vein for pc pillars of eternity to dead fire ultimate edition on cloud and console and wrecked assed on cloud and console and p. c. Are coming to our are coming on the eighteenth to the respective ones mentioned and then on the twenty third killer queen black on cloud console dirt five on cloud consul. Npc elite dangerous on console and super hot mind control delete on pc. And what's leaving on the twenty firth. Dirt four is leaving the concept so they're adding five and removing for moma. Dora reverie under the moonlight on console and p. c. mother. Russia bleeds on. Pc oxen free on console pc. Which i had that was playing it. But i didn't finish it. I'm kind of upset but whatever the jackpots party. Pack four on console and race cold. So s- cold soul on console and pc. Okay so those are all leaving on the twenty fourth of the twenty eighth so just you know if you guys have any last minute things you want to do with that. Just play 'em now yeah right And before i go any further on regards of the raffle. I'm gonna do it here in a little while. But i wanna make sure before i get there that to keep things fair They're you know intended five winners so for anyone. That has double numbers right. Because i know there's a few thank you by the way everyone forgetting that raffle filled 'cause from We are going to just like say you win something and then your second number gets called. I'm just gonna re role because call me whatever. But i feel. It was five winters. You know five winters. I think that's fair that's fair. I don't think it's very it is fair also when i do do it so everyone can see. I will show my screen so we will all know exactly. What's going on but i wanted to say that before. I got too much farther in. Because i have a big surprise whenever we do. Start the drawing for it but okay. Let's see what's going on here in the comments But you meant the wildcats. Replace the cars. Everybody crash cats into each other corners. Crash karma would be really good at battle bar tailed. She likes to drag herself along underneath the couch. And get a bunch like because it's you know would fake wood flooring you'll get sliding across it's great. It's great. I love it. You mean car magadan. Yeah karma cottman oxen free was fun. From what i played of it. But i didn't do it long enough honestly. I can't remember a whole whole lot about it but it's still installed i believe on my xbox but they are right so i am going to figure out exactly how to do this but got this come to our first commercial break. I know i yes. She hates me. That's josh back here. By the way he's he's helping me out in case. I have any major brain farts which you never know amy. You're doing awesome. I'll fake you Karma does it like to be alcyone stream all the time. But she doesn't like to be on the podcast. I don't know what her deal is. But she's just not here. So carbon heater achieves lee is plans all the time so i'm not surprised right so after we get back from our commercial break we will hop right into this week's news. I have to find the commercial. Hang on hang on. i got this alright trivia. I was thinking about that cat. I really was hang on. Let me pull that comment up I was thinking if you're a fan of pinfall productions in europe fan of anchor if you hadn't heard about anchor it's easiest way to make podcasts. It's free there's a creation tool that allows you record. And edit your podcast ripe for your phone or computer. Inc. distribute podcasts. 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Because i know all right well their schedules on pimple cream. If you go there announcements on the group they have a full schedule list there so if anybody ever wants to know what is all available on their check that out All right so let's without further ado with the news. Cut you off mid sneeze. No i was actually in the middle of the. I keep yawning. I apologize in advance. You guys are not boring. I one day. And i'm i'm yawning and so hard to keep for not okay all right. I exactly how it is our a icy well hem on this week's news. Xbox announced a new wireless headset and it was in the launch trailer for the series. But they just didn't make a big deal about it. It is actually kinda neat. It's supposed to be fairly decent which is pretty cool for xbox you know. Their headsets are not traditionally very good. But it's got low latency lossless audio and supports popular spatial sound technologies and it claims that little subtle game sounds like enemy. Footsteps are much more noticeable. Which if true with be very useful because that is a big issue. A lot of the games that i play those pesky enemies footsteps. It is usable on the xbox series the one p. c. and on mobile devices android. Anything like that with bluetooth. I probably i'm going to take a stab out there. And say no i s because yeah but you know yeah And you can actually run a phone call from your phone and the audio from your game into the headset time. So that's kind of knee. I'm not sure when i would ever really want to do that. But okay and it has an auto mute function that like. If you're not talking it just mute you. There's also a mute button to but yeah. I thought that was pretty cool It's preorder bill now. And it's going to be ninety nine dollars. Which isn't horrible again. If it lives up to everything and it is gonna come out march sixteenth. Because i didn't drink coffee what it is like. I've switched to decaff and it's really affecting me harsh. Wave everyone needs a serpent. Puns and jokes in the comments. Keep going nice nice air. We say apex footsteps. Yes tyler we dare say We they've actually fixed out a little bit. I was playing earlier and last night and say it seems to be a little bit better. Surprisingly enough a the auto mute is needed. No you're right to say what i'm drinking coffee and eating stuff you know you're just like yeah you never know you never know what you need all right so starting valley has a big update. That was actually came out on. Pc in december but is coming to consoles at one of the neatest features of this is that they have split screen co op couch. Play for saint far. So you'd sit with your loved one on the couch and farm a good old time and that is actually super exciting. I don't know i don't know they. They need more gates like that. I think that's really cute more interaction. Yeah there is a lot of things as actually added up being able to sit in chairs. a new new items a whole new area. A lot of bug fixes at more and check out all k- with this update. You can go to start valley dot debts and get all of the info from there Okay so this one. I was a little biased and adding. I'm sure a lot of people might not be very excited about this one but for me i was. I might have yelled a little bit. i did yellow she did. I heard it overcooked. All you can eat right. This was the remake of the first two over cooks That they're cooks cooked I don't know how you would say that. Okay either way It's the first with all the seas and they've got it at sixty frames and four k and like all that nice stuff in it only released on the new consoles because of course it did but since march twenty third the come into the old consoles. Yeah yeah i can play it. I could play. It won't being sixty frames and it won't be four k but you know what it'll do the best that my xbox can do an honest look really good They updated the graphics at a bunch of stuff. It was awesome. It was awesome Thought i said yeah. J. taper khakis. We stand overcooked in this house. Yeah overcooked yea listen i. I was so excited. When i read that because i really wasn't expecting you know you never know you never know when People released things like that if they're going to listen to the fans and come back to it. But yeah yeah. I'm hustles much in the kitchen of your house. You do on overcooked. I mean as i no no no no no no necessarily getting into it on overcooked. Will i need a flight high. You now for anybody. Who's interested four at night. I know for night. But they actually listed added another franchise of licensed franchise to the fold drawn right. Crohn's pretty pretty sick. I'll about right. Yes yes off a legacy than the newer one but hey whatever You can get character. Skins a light cycle themed glider. An identity disc pick ax. And you'll be lighting up the digital night and d resing rogue programs before you know it. I love it and so awesome. Attach debt debt debt debt data doubt. Okay i need a plate. Yes tyler you need a plate. Now were those stuff unless it's on video games. Oh no no. Let me tell you something mike cleaning. I go full on disney musical. When i clean like it is. It's it is a thing. I do get very enthusiastic. That's that's great And finally on my part assassin's creed valhalla has got got an update for all platforms yesterday. It's a big one. You get new skills and abilities and a whole new mode river raids and it is apparently a highly reliable mode where you lead. Your team raiders into unexplored parts of england and great. You know. that's i pay but new areas which is great and it's out sorry. Didn't know you're talking about the game right here. I want so. I haven't really into it as much as i would like it. But it's a lot fun the raids in that game one of the best parts rating the different Churches and stuff were a lot of fun so good to know i was actually i was gonna say offer. It was you know. Said it was one of the greatest games twenty twenty and the seems to be continuing that along so i'm glad that they're really pushing it out content. That's fun and playable. Well it's the first of their content and it's taken a while they're having some issues. Hey what would you say. It was worth the wait overall. Do agree yes. Yes yes a well. That's about in review on the first show which i can't believe on your philip. So out right They married odyssey would sell the old very well and yes. It is a great game. I need to play it. I need to play. I will i promise one of these days. I really will all right. Jump on on this wagon to get out of here josh. I remove you all. I was gonna hit it himself. Okay okay fine wait hang on. I'm on my laptop. And i don't have a mouse. I'm having to like single. I tried to get a mouse on here and it wouldn't have when let me Because my ports are all messed up but whatever okay Yeah okay so that was all on the news for me. punish her. why don't you Finish us off with this all right cool so there is a new survival. Game on steam and taking the internet by storm vol himes. Early access has been out since february second and by the fifteenth had sold two million copies developing indie company. Iron gate is a team of only five people but they put out a product that many are finding to be one of the best survival games especially for playing with friends. You play viking surviving the wilderness solo or with up to nine friends on a server. Check him out on valium. Game dot com and on steam. Sounds pretty awesome. Nintendo direct a fifty minute livestream from the company highlights games coming to the switch. This year started at five. In is now available to watch on their site youtube and twitch they had tweeted info was coming out about super smash brothers ultimate in the gaming comes out the first half of twenty twenty one. We've not seen it yet. So if anyone knows anything exciting please let us know and watched that yet so if anyone had a chance to watch that just thrown in the comments. No man's sky had an update. Today that adds companions after taming and bonding with wild animals. You can feed and play with them and even breed them number two companion as alike as a personality involve ecosystem and species continues to change as it travels with you. Different types can do different things like scanning and digging for resources. And you can even customize appearances it's live on all platforms today I have not added update yet. But i had a couple well a tracy. I'm not sure if you are around sir. But you said you were downloading it. Did you play it. Let us know if you did if it was any good because it looked awesome. There's a lot within. I recommend that you guys interested. Look into what came with a companion update because it's like the There started babies at. They grow bigger. And they. I don't know it's neat. It's really beat All right go back on some of these comments cat. Use seems to have me have wait. I use the sims. Have you go to school. I actually went to school. I'm sorry my brain tried to do this with your words. But you know i've really enjoyed sims and like that whole aspect of things i was wanted to gave that was kind of like second life and sims. Like like you have the whole setup of sims but more detailed more like second life you like have many games do your job and like good skis. You do all that stuff like that. I don't know. I don't know to clean while i would cleaning there you know Five people yes Viable yes and two million in less than two weeks. Can you imagine that phone call that they had with each other. Like right god. That would be so exciting Update is great awesome. Good to hear I need to work on the mountain because you ended up on the ayler. The that don't kinks shame. Tracy that's not what the show about work on that a little magazine. That'd be a little bit awkward. Depending on a different monster types beast invites creature types. Yeah but i'm excited to play this. I'm gonna download that either tonight or tomorrow. Why i should tonight but i don't know what i'm gonna play it. That's what i'll lead off with that. I'll download it there. We go download. No sky and complete with us actually It's like shell four people. I think four people. Yeah a group. So yeah i again all right so we have come To another commercial break after this. We're gonna jump into our appreciation of man of madan and that's the first game of the dark pictures anthology. I can't even with this game so good. It is very good so good. Yeah all right. We'll be right back now. Sue the goes goes on a he samak. No and all righty and we all back. That was the geek. All our our show where we started on This whole podcast tread and the new show with Josh and gene and Hickey i think is still there part of it. I think i didn't see him right off hand but appreciate is still going to be there and that is on sundays at. I wrote it down way. I was going to say later. But i'm gonna say it twice. Tang on i got this at a central nine eastern Yes okay and that is where the It's brand new show. It's where they're going to break down each episode of suds anarchy Give us details on stuff. You talk about opinions of actually really neat show. There had a lot of fun with their first episode It is just been one episode right. I haven't missed anything. I might have missed something. I don't know one. okay. I i see that figure All right let me see before. I launch into the appreciation The light tube commercial shows a time travel. Look like that actually. That is really neat. It reminds me of like the original stargate like the way old by Since every time that pops up. That's what i think of. That's yeah where bill and ted yes Pretty cool food and happiness and happiness system customization quite a bit. You can't change the entire look at what you can put pretty neat and there's color options for the accessories is for the no man's sky Update for the companions. Yes that is awesome. I'm really glad they added all the customization. 'cause i love like clothes and colors on games and stuff like decals as one of parents of about ratings the fun word fun part right okay so Before i get off too much later which by the way if we go over a little bit later denies which tonight guys which we might excuse me words because of the raffle. I tried to plan around at not have as many news Articles and like a little bit of a lot shorter review. But i you know. Hey we're having fun we're talking and you know what happens happens so we go over a little bit. I'm sorry but we shouldn't be too to log over if it's you know it's for a good cause right prizes and stuff so beside we're also exactly all right. Let me get to where i come. Pull up my pictures. I'll righty and i apologize. If the i didn't look this dark on my xbox i took these great shots why they came across the star. I hope everyone could see them. Pretty well But yeah all right. From developers supernatural games the company that created until dawn and twenty fifteen for the ps four and published by baen knock co entertainment. Man of madonna came out in twenty nineteen in the is the first installment of eight plan games and the dark pictures and theology series like their previous titles. It's an interactive my goodness legs previous interactive drama. Where you decide what happens to the plot and characters. Oh my goodness. I'm trying to multitask. What happens upon characters as you work to complete this unfinished story for the curators. I think i'd just pulled though. I didn't need her move punisher. Listen i'm going to get the straight guys you're doing now all. I know how to fix this really doing good. Okay i can fix this actually. I don't think i need to worry about it now. We're good all right we're good. This is the curator stories of love and hate greed and beauty. Life and death cremated fun fact for anybody has watched preacher right. The mc show that is air star the head of the bag. I stuff like the do this like bald. Or whatever like i thought. It was hilarious. That that was him. And i could hear it now and i can't stop seeing him on that face but all right when i first seen him. I thought the terminator like number two. The cut like a thought i was like i was like ono. Like this is where this is going to see that. But they have an awesome intro with him to like the music. The song so cool. Oh my god it really is all right so you play as five different characters trying to escape from dangerous ghost ship where they live or die is up to you. There are several endings available and looking it up. I saw anywhere from six to fourteen. Different ones no one seemed to be able to to decide exactly how many so there is room for replay ability. There's three different ways to experience the game on your own a co-op online with one friend. Where you both play as different characters at the same time. It's actually pretty neat or on the same console with up to five people where at the start of the game or each where you change characters you assign the characters to whoever is playing. The story starts starts off post world war. Two with two soldiers. Charlie and joe on shore leave. After a couple of days spent locked away for drunk and disorderly behaviour. They find themselves surrounded by the bodies of their shipmates. After following sounds of gunshots spooky kids running around. There comes a point. Oh my goodness there comes a point that no matter what you do lose their lives afterwards. We are introduced to the curator. Who explains a little about the game and tips for playing and the story moves to present day. Where remade alex brad julia louis. And conrad who is voiced by. And they did the face modeling. Four shawn ashmore. It's bobby from x. men. I mean he's another so too but that's that's that's who he is to me And it's actually you know. He does a pretty good job. I gotta say that works out. Pretty well These guys are divers out looking for a potential undiscovered plane wreck within this records to our go. Ship are found and after a tense moment with some grumpy fishermen to the protagonists are take this ship. Itself your is where the horror really kicks in and depending on your split-second reactions with button presses existing relationship status between characters and how you decide to handle things. Each playthrough experience assured of different one during the game. There are eight major points. And whatever you decide to do during each of these is logged into what's called the life bearings panel and your menu screen while you can't even see the back of the and that is so that aren't your actual menu. I don't understand what happened here. But it's all good. These major points along with the minor ones are controlled by your moral compass in in game. Dialogue wheel used to respond once. You pick what to say it saves automatically and you can't change it so choose wisely and somewhat quickly as there is a timer you can always say nothing but that's not necessarily wise throughout ame you find pictures on the walls with three different frame colors white black and gold once collected. They show you a possible future depending on what type of color the frame is and you can try to avoid or get these outcomes. White shows potential future cat. Catas- tack catastrophe based off of a bad decision by the player. Black shoes a potential death of a character and each installment of the involved has one gold frame. That's going show something about the coming. Addition to the anthology relationships between characters can affect what they do in game dialogue choice. You made that caused dislike between people may cause an entirely different moment to occur later on also their achievements slash trophies for maxing out relationships between different characters. So there is that to the top bar actually. Can you go back to that. Josh took over to help me out here as i'm struggling but If you notice. I it's kind of hard to see but there's a top or bottom bar the bottom bars you're like pre existing relationship and then as you build the like top of the choices that you made like go up or down and and if you max them out there are achievements okay ultimately you can either get everyone killed. No one killed and everywhere in between this is a game that encourages you to retry several times allowing you to select different scenes after playing once and change some things. The game has several jump scares but overall isn't the worst. I've played by long shot. I was really nervous going into this and it really wasn't as bad as i was expecting it to be high jump several times. I mean i did. But i wasn't like i like chess starts to hurt when i play scary games. Like when i get really scared. They have to walk away and take a breather. But that didn't happen it was like like the little jumps also let of my chair jumps like. That's the kind of jumps i had. I'm so glad you got that. Got that experience out of this. According to several different sites it only takes about four to six hours for most new players to be. That's what i experienced punisher. I don't know if that's how about how long it took you for two six. I wanna say it actually probably took me. I wanna say was between maybe around four like it ended fairly quickly. But i really kinda kept after it. So it's a short story really is they want you to to play it several times But for those interesting completion wants you. Add all the decision making picture collecting endings. You can go through. It can double or triple that time. Easily the second instalment. Little hope came out last year with the third house of ashes. Set to release sometime this year. Nice specifically left out anything too detailed about the story after a certain point because it is entire it is definitely worth going through and finding out what's going on to get the good ending and final the collectibles. I'd recommend looking into some walk-throughs to say some unnecessary playthrough. Because there's some setups that you actually have to set up unless you just want to go through it as many times as you want to go through it. A couple of good sites for walk throughs are true treatments dot com and the dark pictures dot fandom dot com right. See hello everyone all right let me get back to these comments on my goodness everything exploded while i was gone. Okay once they wanna play that. I actually got the The ending that. I want and i only go by compla- one see but i actually. Yeah like every everything turned out really good in the end it was. I'd almost go played again just to see if i can a different ending. Gray i i'm gonna i'm gonna go through these comments and then i have to say i'll think about what happened to be because i was doing good and then i wasn't doing good Tyler there's quite a bit of corp potential in a was at no man's sky okay. I see you're going back to get listened to you. Guys you're stuck on no-man's guides a good game is a really good game doctor who you know what i could see that vibe Intro is very legit it really is a young joni jameson. I who has jona jameson. I know that name who who is that. I have no clue as age. Oda jameson is all three of. Jj right. You know what. I'm going to skip through some of these thank you i. I knew i should know that right. That's okay with with specific actor names. I know Well hello yeah. I heard you say sub to him and then and all right. That is just about everyone. You know what. I'll accept it. But i don't have an argument other than i do other stuff with my time. Yeah you heard me. I play a lot of video games. I probably should do these things better for references because otherwise i'm like those are like i know that sounds kind of familiar. Maybe i'll figure it out by the time comes up and then i did an oil. Okay right okay. So i was going to do this a little bit differently. But you know what i'm going to swap back around because i think we've waited long enough. You know what guys you know what time it is do you. For what time. It is every day on raffle lila. My tan white and comes. Give me my items of telling him live. And i don't have says because. I am the lazy but it's okay all right so raffle raffle raffle time. It's the moment of truth guys. It is the moment of truth so real quick again. I'm going to go over some of the things. We have five letters. Write five winters five people so if anybody has double entries in you have double the chance to get your number called if you have your number called once and then call the get. I'm gonna rewrote so that we still have our original originally intended five winners. I'm going to be using google Random number generator and punisher is going to be looking at our post to see who that is and we will call your name out and then we will message back all message you were you get to me. Or however that works out add. I'll get your address. We'll go through all that stuff like that. So we're gonna call you out get ready. Yeah are you ready to rumble. He ready to raffle. It's ruffle time russell's for apple like you said maybe a raffle. Sorry sorry story actually way. Okay there's an actual random now. What is this random dot org. There's an actual random dot org instead of minute amac's gotcha. We'll do it this way. Okay that's really small. But i can zoom in all right team. We see random number generator one to twenty five okay. Let me see if i can do this onscreen. Oh wait before. I do this. Bring me the first play please. I'm going to show you guys before. I do it. Because i wanted to be like an anticipation builder. All right. so we split everything up into reasonable packages. I feel so our first one coming in. We have the zelda of cards because awesome and so zelda we have pokemon figuring this one has piquiachu ample before. And we have a mario figurine from the super. Mario whatever series. It's jack's toy actually a good one. I realized that was jack's well montiel. Oh all right okay. Here we go here we go. I think tennessee and bam girl was that too. Yes yeah. I'm actually gonna amiss here real quick with these random things just to give everybody a fair shake do it three times and then the third number take that one so you hit it once. Hit it twice in the third one. That's just show that it's actually going through all right. That's fair. i'm sorry to that. Probably got super exciting. I don't know who was too but all right okay. We'll do this again. We'll do the skin because that is actually a fair point. Okay so oh oh hang on twenty one to you were so close. It really wanted you to have that all right. So twenty one. Who's twenty one. michael. I hope i say your name. Right may toes mattos nadal's wondering that myself if you don't have enough doubles jump in here officer. You got they you but all right All right so yeah. That's michael. You got our first one. So you've got the cards. Mario and he came second plate. Lease vanna right now. We are coming in with. We have kylo 's ship as a little it's die-cast hot wheels brand the little finger attached thing the other pokemon set in this one comes with pika chew and charm andor and a little minecraft collectible grab box figure read. We do all right. And i know i'm ignoring everyone right now because i just i like if i if i start to look at comments i'm going to get distracted and it's going to take twenty minutes so we still have this. It is still set on the twice miller and okay so figure right here. That's nine one two. And oh i saw that. You saw that for seventeen right the second time. I seventeen twice when my finger. My finger jogged. Okay well you're an underrated again because we all right all right all right. Well see this is why we should just do it. One time josh. I don't know why you guys do it three times but now way any of these rifles are always done. I'm gonna have. We also just use google. that's okay. We'll i googled it right right. Hang on random number generator can you do on there. Can you do it on the screen. It'd be easier all my got. Heck yeah all right so here. We go one two three twenty five twenty five. Twenty five tyler. Tyler wanted to go again. He wants to roll again josh. Roll it again. He doesn't want it. Hey nine is now all sorry. three three is nicole. chatterton nicole. yeah. I don't know if you're here to call but you got the Whatever i said all those things were the star. Wars the char matter at the minecraft that was that you need. Yeah save them somewhere where i could see it so that won't happen again But yeah and by the way if anybody's not here live because that's okay. I will message so if anyone's worried about that Josh the rescue. I have is okay. All right no what comments. I don't need to see comrades all right having a third plate please. you're doing good. This is your first run through. This is going great. You're doing great. I'm having direct. Somebody who's frantically pacing around here to aka tyler. All right you have our first pop figure. This is mrs cuphead. No excuse me. Miss chalice mrs cuphead from cuphead. Her name is miss jealous. Our second minecraft blind figurine and then we have another hot wheels collectible. This is actually a peach in a little you know. Racer mario kart collectible. I've got a lot hot. Wheels has a lot of neat stuff. That's coming out recently. I don't know what's going on with that. But hey i'm not planning on it. All right josh give us some numbers so mood. Twenty-three who's twenty three twenty. Three is joshua clifford congratulations. You got our sir cuphead. My craft and mario kart wins. Yeah because these are guys who've been part of convulsants of very very beginning low you know what it pays off right And are was its fourth one. Yeah fourth what okay. We have a three pack of dnd dice right or whatever role playing game. I'm being biased. It doesn't have to be deity They're nice colors. To mario and the hot wheels collectible and then we have three. Oh my god of the halo figuring lined bag. Lego will mega contracts buildable. Collectibles are right josh. Give us that sits. Six is tracy. Mead tracy meet. I have to pay for his you god. I was seeing one of them canadians. when who. you're the no canadian rule on the apple. Talk at ahead of time. Even g even g when we do these like genome not shipping the canada. Right we're gonna have to. We're going to get any or than the bright now. Listen i'm totally kidding. I will do what. I need to tracy. Because you've been super supportive this whole time so if anyone yeah he's been here every week. Exactly right Okay are fine. Grand finale. our final piece. We have air female vault dweller. Pop figure i don. We have luma strips. Led's they are. How big are they. I thought it said six and a half feet right which are very similar to my wall right now. Actually and the luigi. Jack's collectible our final winner. Josh if you would please tyler against allergy one twice and ten is miss caitlyn price for both right like the pinfall aunt blood. Look at your rotten luck. God guys. I never wake because caitlyn. I'm terribly sorry. Here's that's that's you won twice. Because i am just you got good carbon the fact that i haven't shift or stuff yeah. We have a like century a blizzard of the siegfried down here in texas. So it hasn't happened but very soon very soon caitland. Promise tyler thank you. Would you like to step in the camera. Miss vana tyler. There is ran away Thank you for that. thank you everyone. Congratulations own witter's yes. I will get contact with all of you assure was writing down. Everybody's aimed down. And i will get everything straightened out with you guys. We will be doing this again in the future as our numbers grow. I will post point and then hopefully near ish future a what our goal will be and all that stuff like that. So yeah. Thank you everyone for doing this raffle josh. Thank you for stepping in and helped me out there. Paul this is it. This is me. Oh you doing great awesome. You really are all right all right. Okay so Yeah i guess says if the wrath awry everyone again congratulations. Congratulations and we have one more commercial break. And after that we're a force. Scott are nostalgic nook and the punt of the week. You guys are the pun of the week. Yeah am i gonna love. It is gonna make me happy now. I'm actually expecting you to laugh at this one. Honestly i know armed gonna love it so we will be right back turn. Cars don't need a new thing jackson out. Well there you already That was a paradigm shift. Which is actually coming on in the namrin. Seven roughly Right here optimum paul stream nine central ten eastern and crazy weather. The interviewer last week didn't happen but it happening tonight. So makes you turn into see apocalypse. And watering it's going to be awesome I'm super excited. So make sure you check that out. Yeah i was really sad. When i heard that the interview got cancelled especially since it was so abrupt. But you know stuff happens. I'm glad that you guys are getting cup through your outta. It's going to happen. So i'll be back when you'll do the music. Okay sounds good all right so i am just going to launch us right into nostalgia. Quick yeah wait under the auspices. What giant must young. I must ask you a question. Oh i was bad you a question. I know i know were dirt but it's almost nine o'clock. I'm not worried about okay. We're almost nine o'clock. We've got about five minutes left but we're going to try and get through this and this is this is it. We're here nostalgie next. I'm going to start this off ahead. Let me ask you if this sound is familiar. Dojo the or this one on all but you say yes to either of the baa to the above. Excuse me good lord. You know that. I'm referring to the short wearing backpack-toting feathered flying duo of banjo kazoo. Yeah yeah all right all right. Let me take it right there. Look at that in. Been awhile guys. Hasn't it has been a while another rare game. Actually it features banjo and kazoo a bird working together to fight the evil witch gren till the and getting many dicky's little color coded creatures and other collectibles as they can a puzzle platformer both the first one that released in nineteen ninety eight and so two and two thousand let you on a journey for crazy cracked up fund across all kinds of different worlds. Pretty out there characters now nuts and bolts. Pull this up What i meant to pull up. That's what i meant to pull up now. I can't do that. what hang on. I lied. I can't do that. I forgot i can't do that so we'll just have to see on on. Symbol was released in two thousand eight for the three sixty but didn't keep to the original feel of the game using vehicles for challenges and strength from non linear platforming. of course they had The xbox got in their arcade the banjo. I think it was just because we. I don't think it was too as well. You know i. I didn't think to look that up. I feel. I think it's just zooey that you get in the arcade which i did also get that because you know. I love this game growing up. I can't there's the way you're talking about like if it's available on. The attack is downloaded both okay. It's nice both owner. There were less time in twenty seventeen spiritual successor. Ukulele which i've seen that did not realize this was a spiritual successor to fangio kazoo It came up for. Ps four xbox which mtc p. c. by platonic games. It has some mixed reviews but it seems to have hit a lot of the nostalgia parts but left. Let some of the fans down with some outdate mechanics and finally. I was when i decided to do this. Game it It was it. Was i think right around. I wanna say thursday at like right after last week's episode like two days after that the collectibles company. U2's announced this new line featuring banjo kazoo bottles and tutti available each for twenty nine ninety nine. The preorder goes up the twenty sixth of this month and they'll start shipping the first week of june so they literally just announced that and i i didn't. I don't know i dunno. They're not i. As far as i know they're not coming out with a new gate like there's no plans for a game yet or anything but merchandise merchandise and honestly those are really cute looking. I may have to get. The bottles is really cute and i actually completely forgot about about bottles and glasses on does he. Now he doesn't have his bottles on. He doesn't know okay. There we go there we go so. Let me go back to the comments. What do you guys think about. This nostalgia nook of a game Alright tally you know this one you do. You do know this. One banner kazoo. We'd never goes out of style of. Were never heard never ukulele but have it. Played it From despicable me. I'm cracking up. Does it really wait. Oh wow. I didn't see that at all. That's fi you to fall okay. All right tracy. I i was really hoping you get excited about this one especially because i was when i was thinking about doing the noise. Doing it was like listen. The fans are gonna know what this is the whole all right because what was your favorite Banjo because remember like top favorite memory. I want to say. And i can't remember if this was an kazoo your to eat. The circus was at. Which was that one two we mentioned to say. Yeah that whole thing like just the vibe of it and like the big circus tent and fighting. Whatever that i can't wazoo blow up wasn't it. Yeah exit the patches to blow it up. And i think my favorite part of the whole game was when i learned that you could fart eggs like that just made for me like the enemy exploded right. It's a very it's a very interesting idea for a game quite frankly but hey You know it was a different time in the nineties. It was a it was a more colorful time. We'll put it lightly. I you know. Hey let's vice world or love ice level to whatever that was like once snow once. I was lava. I don't know almost call was. Would you remember the music from the from. A the the miami or the mine Yeah actually was playing in my head the other day It'll come to me in a minute. I promise it will just come to me. Randomly got red greed. Don don don don don don deng dot dot dot dot dot dot dot. Dot is don. Don got it. Let me pull this down. There is josh. Oh outweight got it. Controls don't get yup give us a pun. I ready all right here. It is so guys tonight. I'm trying something new. I am having himalayan gopher stew for dinner. I found himalayan on the road. And i thought gopher it you know what's bad little close to home. I know many people that's been like there. Go for it is a crash. That's a that's a road. Kill their there. Hey that liked it. Oh come on crack a little smile. It was kinda funny in it. Was it was hilarious. Collected she sang apraxia. Thank you rare. Tyler says the complexity made it pretty good all fine. I'll take it. I'll take dona courage. Encourage me please. All right guys We are we are actually after our time. So we're going to make this last little bit kind of quickly got are recommended song of the week iphone. You had a raffle in the middle of the show in your only over stop. it's true that's true. But i'm not. I'm not skipping anything yet. You're saying maybe maybe sars is this Did never goes short because being carry. So i'm just we put it that way okay. recommended songs. I wanna hear what josh you have. So like me with music. I always had to go to Nova rockefeller of this girl. You need to go check her out. She is amazing. Her and her boyfriend have charted several times in the last couple of months. They are one hundred percent independent And this is hate you this meeting. Go check out. But she's dropped three songs in life month and they've all been made she sold out. All albums nova rockefeller a. You might song resist. It is work by pop evil. I'll i'll my god. I'm so excited. I don't know what that one is. I'm very excited for that. But i really enjoy. I'm writing down one's in the comments. And i will say them aloud but i you know what every week now on the back of my little schedule i have tyrod taylor added. Let's see what we got your boy from a little bit more a little bit. You know what i tell him. As scott and river of darkness by the midnight recommend recommend punisher. What is your recommended song this week. I know. actually we talked about earlier. But i'm actually gonna throw it in your that. Just hippie us star dust by gemini syndrome. Oh i don't think at one eight you gotta keep watching for. When kerry does the one she was going to do tonight. 'cause it was pretty good. The illness bury me with my guns on by bowflex loose all chemical valley bad man like they're all really good songs but definitely burden me with my guns on. That's that's their signature. It's it go west. Virginia mboya attilio. Did it. all right guys So the comments quite everyone give us some songs. We got a couple of good ones Let us know what your what. A recommended song shuffle. Your your music list. If you don't have one that you can think of right off. Just give us a random song. mine is not actually shoveled. It's one that. I finally managed to get out of my head a little bit recently. But i was honestly just couldn't stop listening to the song driving and groove and but it's a caribou by tech nine as she it's a it's it's an older songs you like. It's not even that new. But it's like i don't know it's a groupie song i love. I saw. It's a good song and i turned the base up super high of my car and i'm just down the road like yeah i'm cool right. You wouldn't know by hell yet our desk and be watching the paradigm shifts. You need to be watching the paradigm shift scott because judas by pasi the lead singer chris. Jericho huge wrestler. So you need to be watching the paradigm shift that non-central titi eastern scott daft punk always a win. A yes steph. Pundit always a win cat. I was also reading that down frantically. Listen i i'm gonna i'm gonna build my library so fast with all you guys dogs. Thank you so much for helping me out here. Yeah and okay. So that i guess tracy which one did you. Who did you see live a few years ago. I wanna know who specifically there sir Disa- punk yeah. He's pretty cool bands. Live i have. He's he's he was it Oh oh my goodness brain. What is the name of the vaal. Beat us beat is my jam. Didn't you tell me you saw albeit live tracy or am i wrong on that one. I might ruin. She will not stop. Fosse oh wow actually i. We were all wrong. Nice tracy. i'll bet they were cool. Live all man all right. Well we have really wound to an end on this evening. We've we've reached the end of everything we got a raffle squared away with. Everyone's help and assistance and patients been great. Everybody's been so great. Thank you wonderful. Lots of love josh. Thank you for helping me out through this. We actually i didn't do i didn't visits is kind of fun doing this this behind you and you do very very well. Guess everybody round of applause for credentialing. I would like to thank the academy and as usual and as we've said throughout like share comment do all that stuff let us know any future games that you would like us to appreciate any future segments that you would like us to look at for maybe including in the show and constructive criticism is always welcome. Let us know what we're doing right what we could be doing better when thank josh for helping us out. Pinfall stream as always for Us every week and all these other shows. These guys are awesome. We wouldn't be doing it if it wasn't for y'all go. Some big things happen. Yeah moving on up in the world. I'm telling you we're excited. We've got some things. He's got some things up under his sleeves but the biggest one is you the fans whether you're watching live or later however it works out we'd love talking to you guys or or you know getting the reactions just just see and everyone have a fun time with us. This is great. We've had a lot of fun with this. Its intrigue it really is if anybody is like me in texas louisiana any of the southern states that are getting hammered by this century blizzard. Stay safe. stay warm. Don't be like mean have to get out on the roads today because it was nice But yeah stay stay. Stay warm and do not need to do to get by. Hopefully it's almost over the. I've heard that it's really bad. Awful mixtures getting ours tonight supposedly. So we'll we'll see. This is the sheer fact that we don't do this like they've literally. It's the first time in a generation like ever that the entire state of texas every county had a winter storm warning this week every single. That's scary. Sally on our system is not keeping up. Millions of people without power for days. my aunt and grandmother and a family in abilene have been without power for seventy two hours. Oh my god and my over here staying with me because his apartment without power more so well. I've been blessed in the fact that we have not lost anything we've been hearing honestly that's amazing but yeah good on you for helping out where you can help. Keep everybody safe. That's worm Yeah i guess paradigm shift less than an hour guys. geek outlet course saturdays at nine central ten eastern and then once again the new suds anarchy show s away re writers digest. Why say reader's digest. Course sundays. i know but by. And that's what that's what you know you did it right because my brain and a schedule of all these shows and the rest of the shows are once on pinfall streams group page go under the announcements and you can see everything that's on there and next week we actually are going to be at mixed things up a little bit. I will not be doing the appreciation. Punisher will be doing the appreciation. What would we be covering punisher. We're going to be covering one of my actually my favourite dame of all time mass effect. Are you excited. Just the first one was sitting inside his get excited. Snyder's i'm haunt get excited. It's massive her. That's why i wanted to give it to her. Because she's just so honestly exciting your appreciation for just that i was going on. I am so super pumped nervous. But i'm also super pumped. It's got this starting. This campaign is the shirt. Oh there we go you know what if i can get her. I'm going to start bringing her in like at the start of the episodes should be here for at least part of it. I'm going to get a bunch of pictures. Or i don't know we're going to get her in there and i she would love to take on. The camera will love it All right so everyone just Let me see any last final things i see. We got a couple of wars shows. Another great episode. Thank you tracy He's on alert. Thank you thank you Next wednesday at seven central eight eastern. Catch the episode. Six with one. And i honestly everyone be safe and careful and have a wonderful week. Can't wait to see all next time. 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The Making of SMYL | THREE

The Making of a Dental Startup

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The Making of SMYL | THREE

"Man i am so excited. Hey how's it going michael how you doing. I'm doing well thanks for asking. How's the. I know we were talking a little bit about it before we recorded so i just wanted to push according now. But how's the weather not texas man. Men texas is cold. It is other than texas on my life. I don't remember a time like this except growing up once. We got a little bit of ice. But i woke up two days ago in the snow. All over the ground oliver. That roads and look like a winter wonderland so Yeah so crazy. Time in texas wholesalers. Pretty much shut down a couple of days. Was it like the first day there was no you like heck. Yeah let's all go play outside and now you're like all right. That's the first day. I took my dog out. Let's go run and play in the snow and then like today. I'm like what is it gone yet normal lives. Can my house be hot again. How long was your your power out for. Were out yesterday for probably about six hours or so But i have a lot of friends. Be out days note. No power no heat. I currently don't have any water. That kinda sucks Really yes sticky and non shower your agony out here. Agra daria is it 'cause the pipes bursted or just. There's no water 'cause so we're in like inner loop City which like downtown and the city's just not built to to handle free weather in soden people were tripping their pipes to prevent the water from freezing The whole underground Invest and so we just got have no inflow of water to our house and sound man so then what are you doing for like food and water and all that stuff We got gas. I can cook and then go into. The store. yesterday grabbed his site. Some bananas yogurt meets cook and over twelve to five. Though we're hanging in there pretty good texans intact reduce. Our system is not a hangdog cold. That's that's the problem. Wow man my wife has been stuck in dallas all week. She can't get home so that the other update really so in dallas. Is it worse or better worse. But an no flight coming in and out of eastern for the past few days so we are ready for her to come. so yeah. that's update here in texas. Is it Is it too scary to drive or now we've been driving around all day from dallas to houston. Oh yeah that'd be a little little sketchy just because you know what's what's going to happen. I think last week there is a huge pile-up in fort worth has fifty car pileup or something like that so after that. I don't wanna drive. That's hoping it's i. I really do. I no apparent center some pictures in there. They were like insure your line. So yeah right now. They still don't have any power. They have any water. Pipes burst did so. There's just hunker down to you. Know what i mean. They have a thanh of firewood so big got it. they got it so then throughout this process. Man i mean this is down the process. Or what would you say this is done. Prieto destruction is putting a little wrinkle in time line so one thing For our project is the general contractor gives. You initially a set timeline. They're going to finish in ours was projected to be done march. I which is about two or three weeks. I'm guessing with delays is going to push us back a week So sucks to have another week for on builds not done because that pushes equipment back to be installed outcome pushes everything back a week But a good piece of advice. It's to win your builds done. Give yourself a month to get your systems in your in before your physically for business. Could you don't know what delays you're gonna cause young things to be pushed back in your in your build out So yeah kind of sex but We're trying to get back as quickly as we can. Or almost their scotch. You don't you so before we jump until like this week and what's been going on. I know you last episode. We were talking about how you were going to do a photo shoot with your practice and your finance echo do. It was so good content we got from. It was very their organic. Can vary to stop is a fun way to bring people into your practice And so we wind out a studio on a saturday. And then we've got about five or six friends and did about two hour photo shoot and we brought all our dental products. There are custom made toothbrushes loss smiley basketball. You stuff has really fun in his shot around. Got about three to four hundred good photos out of it and As will my favorite things. I've done so far. It's a highly recommend if you know people that are photogenic or have a great smile or just have a great personality Bring them into photo. Shoot with your practice and it gives you great content for social media. Don't have to use stock images or the same person that's from smiling and every picture for the past ten years on dinner websites. That was just a great way to get personalised organic content. That looks really good. So how much does this cost you again. This cost me around. See studio was about eighty dollars to rent. Photographer was three hundred around four hundred dollars dollars. And then like you don't have to pay. I mean they're your friends right like you don't have to have. I told him like three whitening when we open and i gave them all really fun. Smile bags in some nice aggressive. Reciprocity or something you do suffer people do that for you coming up. It's really fun community that we get back. Yeah gotcha so then. What's the what's the campaign. here. What's the plan you do. You want them to start posting immediately. The pictures your friends. Or what. I will keep all the images myself so what. I'm doing undertake all these images. Seen what i like with him seeing how flow on my page Invalid dosing one or two a week for the next few weeks and then tagging them in and the the post story with friends nick Shoot i did at smelled industry organic way to people to get people involved and sharing liking comedy. Making your practice seem real City and so. That's my marketing strategy with that. And then taking some of those promoting as ads on facebook and instagram of someone. Really fun holding floss. His father at two thrashing makes dentistry. This looked fine. I'm so a promote simpson those targeted ads and she scenario. What is the app called again. A preview the wave them treaties one disuse p. r. e. e. w. or the accident preview. App 'cause i wanted to ask like what's your you mentioned right now that you look at your instagram and you're like does it fit. What are you trying to get it like how. What's the style here that you're trying to get in trying to get It is called previews is basically previous instagram. I'm trying to get all the same color patterns So i want every photo to Nash with my five colors of the practice on. I don't wanna Us one colored for every single photo. Because then it's kind of very redundant or diabe down so having some types of color consistent with your branding of your basics black white brown in this kind of looking seeing to have to texts photos next to each other. Random photos says basically mixture of personalized content content with words in the pictures of the practice. Sukkur choose on something related. I want to go on my social media feed and this is for the smile right yes and tried to stage. What's the five colors of your practice. They are so basil in the first things we redid was. We got with a brand busy brands specialists and she has created a color palette that everything through the practice goes through We wanted to make it not to be not onto pediatric something very like mid century modern. They're inviting colors so we're like a chuckle. Black alight brown a day like a sunlight yellow in then a really fun glue than there is small setup ago orange. Come this kind of two things that you can use the black brown and white as your standard than through pops of color whenever you need Throughout the page guide. Is there a reason why you guys picked five instead of like. Oh this is like three or two. Who's your brain specialist by the way. A her name is grace. She works for company called design She's up in north carolina. She's just a friend of a friend. You know here juiston and she does awesome work. You pick five colors because you've always had colors in mind or you were just like she mentioned it to you. Five is good to have or why it is worked Three was too little wanted three three standard colors in the to really pop colors on several big every color. So you can't narrow down to. What is your brand. And what are the messages. You're trying to convey with your coats. Do you see yourself mitchell like a year from now. Still doing this like you know what i mean like posted on your smile practice using the preview app. You know what. I mean all that stuff or do you kinda see like you outsourcing into someone s a great question. I really enjoyed doing it But i know my capacity is limited to do social media so one of the things. I've done recently in the past week. I'm kind of cutting back on my doctor. Instagram page in focusing more on just building my practice page and using my doctor page as just a funnel to push content through and so is doing to in grading different accounts is a lot of work but i would like to delegate posting everything eventually But i do have the capacity for now. And i don't have to pay anyone to do it Sus a budget friendly thing for me to be able to do that initially but i love to delegate 'cause you can do so many things as a practice owner but i love credit content upgrading videos Passion for it really isn't too much work do you think. So if somebody's listening right now right and then they're like tang. Have i have a practice when already. But i should probably get a personal doctor wine. Do you think it's a good idea for them to start a personal doctor. Wanted not just be like notches. Double down on your practice one instead. Yeah that's a great question So i would say there's two scenarios either urine associate and you want to build a practice or you're already have a practice and we wanna build that in so i would say it's the first one unit associate build your own doctor page for when you want to open a practice and then you have some credibility you are to promote your practice opinion. Now it's safe you are current practice. Owner is promoted page. Because you can bring your team in on it can have multiple people logged into the accounts posting creating content Even if you're not there just a little redundant your practice in. Try to build a separate page for yourself out binder. You should be investing in the practice in the staff. So s route. Say that yeah. Yeah i get i get that a lot because i know some people who are like they want to see your page doctors page. They're like oh. Man i wanna post like stuff about my life and what i do too in. But then they're like does it look. Does it make sense do that on the practices page. Not they think not really. What do you think like. Should they still post their life. I would only do it on your doctor page. You could create one on of sharing who you are creating a personality in this kind of being involved in the world so that your doctor page can grow and you can kinda create the doctor who you are as a personality shows through social media and again like social is just a snapshot of who we are so Just kind of protecting professionalism as a doctor and then still sharing about your life. Fear drew married yet. Kids do for So i would say do more personalized stuff. Dr page than the practice page postponed. Who you are. Your staff is which practices about make it more community more practice oriented when people watching like all. I really wanna go to practice. Not because the doctor is so cool but because the staff and everyone there is such a great time. I wanna be a part of other doing. What are you like almost kind of like sick of seeing other practices. Do on social media where you're like dang that they shouldn't be doing that. Oh man you know. I don't like it just like it's we every time to get new practice. They buy like five to seven thousand followers and look at the pages like seven thousand dollars. Whatever and then you've got the likes to three nokomis spike in a lot of people don't know what happened in that situation because they don't know it's just kind of shows night they're trying to create something that should be created organically Nothing is one of the most detrimental things you could do to your account because then you don't know am i. Growing am i because follows fall off Get new bots on their own. So i don't. I'm not saying like dunston money to like promote your account. Anything like that. But when you go mike Thousand samak i've just just seemed to dislike deflating And to let can do the instagram game. Oh man nice ratio so as at disney that that maybe ally dennis. Don't people know they can do that. so in the news people. Dc that turns you off to the practice. Oh trying to buy an image. That's not organic image guy. She got you. What about like post you know how. Like i don't know like tooth talk thursdays or like you know how like death like what. What about post where. you're like. stop doing that man. I would dislike give credit to denver so there are so creative with two topics like always encourage anyone to post is anything that's creative with teeth like some things will head. Something's well on but degraded dentist trying to create context. I know how hard it is. And i know some of my content has drastically failed in. I've been a successful. As i thought i would say that. I don't like which is hard to do. We don't have a practice is having high quality images that aren't stock. Images is a toothbrush next to a nice plant. Like i've done it that. I don't have anything but that's just like really hard for patients to connect with when seeing the page. But you have to do it initially. That's that's why did a photo shoot early on and getting some personalized content about who you are here. Staff is Is so valuable to the success of your page. I liked them. And so every post you make you always think about. How will the patient connect with this. Like what are they gonna receive like. They feel good about themselves or they felt bad. You never want to post something that makes them feel like would ask makes me feel bad about myself are who i am like everything back on uplift. You and i want you to feel joy from this post because tonight but we can take from dentistry. John i like that man. Those good advice there so then let's dive into the budget breakdown like this budget baby. Let's dive into that. So i know last episode we discussed in. And you said you were going to bring us like the breakdown of it so you talk to me like what first of all give me an overview of like your whole your whole breakdown. Initially what i did so. The budget in dentistry is crazy. There's so many things that you need to buy and may have been working on my budget. Ever since last march is kind of getting things together itemizing on lists on the biggest things you wanna do. You have a few categories. You'd have leasehold improvements which is improved ince's space that releasing equipment of it outdoor signs marketing expense architecturally a permitting fee with the city wherever you live have permits there and then just furniture on security deposits and miscellaneous for any other items. My goal was to be under six hundred thousand for my budget And so far. Coming in just under budget if i buy everything that's on my budget so So yes that's kind of my overarching on fame. And then when the first things i ordered was on chairs on i know i had to have those. They were not negotiable as from my budget on shares deliveries mechanical. Which should mechanical is the compressor generator that run your practice Essentially a dental offices are a giant bathroom powered powered by a compressor in the back Of the ins and outs of it. Actually how much if you don't mind me asking what whatever you you feel. You're comfortable with right. Yeah give us the price range of each but or actually. Let me ask you this. I was looking at your budget right now. The overview. what's shocked you. The most realize dang. It i don't think i budgeted enough for that or allocated enough for that think projections way overbudgeted. So basically said hey. I think this is going to cost me a thousand. I put twelve thousand Just ahead flexibility in there and almost like christmas when you're under budget like oh i can buy this laser now or can buy something that's i really want is a dentist but isn't a necessity for me to start the first few months. So let's generalize my delivery systems so what i did Different i prefer rear delivery. Twelve o'clock systems that are hidden alarm. I don't like anything in front of patients face. I don't like him overhead light. I like the office is deloitte studios not just in will share with all this crap. All around it thousand. My floss back on what i wanted. A new howard practiced so eight chairs just because i did other research forest with Belmont with a deck. And may i just wanted something reliable. Gonna ask me ten years ray. Customer service and we used them in dental school in his lap and so did the three levin chairs which is the lower end of its smaller comfortable ninety one big five eleven share which is like huge mike. Good sleep in so actually practice was open right now in houston because it probably has power hour to suit. They're not my house up in the chair. Yeah and so. Those are chairs that i bought roughly my whole delivery system which is the what breezy hand pieces or slow speeds. Everything is around. I think i'm at about sixteen thousand to eighteen thousand per opportunity for chair in delivery system. So then how many opportunities you said you have. I am doing a three to start. Gotcha okay but so then. Technically so is two one five eleven share three shares. Saw two to eleven in one five eleven. Do for the five eleven. Do you plan to do anything specific or in that one. It'd be more treatment. Such you come back to spend an hour and a half getting crown some filling so basically might treatment. Chair the three levin's or hygiene in and outs gotcha gotcha okay. So that's the chairs and delivery right. That's the the whole thing. Sixteen k what about the. Let's let's talk about the rest of the budget sixteen to eighteen depending on the level chair. price difference between the three levin's fight eleven is about three thousand dollars Kind of luxuriate gatt. But but he's a pretty low prices for a though because less summer will be Covid specials so basically if you bought you got like twenty five percents crazy deal at dunk dragon. These are the a little bit lower that you'll find kerr market value cheap shopping for an addict chair. Tang we need to get the hookup for data. We need to give them a call and like hey man mitchell and then we can every come out. I'll take outs Heard force is a good brand as well. i'm just shares. I use right now. I don't even know if they work. So i just like nice shares. A patient serves that. Yeah definitely definitely so then. That's that's part of the budget. What else So when it comes to like your other other like arctic fee. It and things like that. now now. unthinking. I didn't realize for so expensive is mechanical which that compressor in everything in the back on that runs her practice in about a really nice one. That's i think can run an office with seven to ten opportunities for minds around sixteen seventeen thousand ride that range so i was daynuss expensive man but i want i spend a little bit more on that than the other ones objects coach reliable and the one i bought. It's dean d. e. a. n. white. It's really a space efficient so doesn't take above its face And one thing with generators. They're very out Seven mo the bench backer dental office with a generator. Turn it on her and the dental office on the end of my office being so tight and space. I wanted something small. That could go in the bag and not caused exceptionally people around next door. Was this an automatic. Like this is what i want. The dean mechanical. Or were you like going in and out between this and something else other than that between this and then another one. remember what. it was called. Bill's very similar to the both commercials good sturdy generators which on our frigging generator had needed the space. And so one thing. I would recommend against if you can. is not buying of a debt cabinets or their big sterilization center of that stuff is expensive and adds up really really quickly. Just get your dc to make your cabinets for you. I know a lot of money. How much do you think that was coming around. That sterilization center mine like just a framework in The outer drawers everything was around. Twenty one thousand dollars just for that one east that much Wife is like she came to see it. These look like a dental cabinets. Seen every scene dental practice. I go to my young getting an outsider's perspective because as me as easily be awesome It look good and they'll try to sell you on. Well the cabinets you to keep them if you move offices and And i might. I'm like okay that makes sense but a move offices in ten years cabinets can be dated. I'm not going to take them with me long. They're gonna look like cabinets do that. You look like now from ten years ago. Why won't get those. And they know that. I think they don't. They're going to be like you can upgrade. You know what i mean. I know i got on that. 'cause like dude. That's a great idea if i moved Uplift everything. I say cabinets. Like just like what she was like. No i was actually good though that. She said that he's big guy listened to you off. Good advice good advice. Still do not buy all the aid cabinets So then was the price difference between what you're g. c did and the circulation. It was a huge difference. Her oppose saved me about fifty percent on the cabinets. Wow that's really good for you to fifty percent but nothing gets Abner so they're great cabinets. They look awesome. I just started up. You wanna be as budget-conscious possible and diskin trouble they. They need to buy everything dental specific and almost like a on unspoken dental tax on things that are just dental secretary or of your dentist slap on. His feet slept on this week cabinet. I hear people have gone with ikea to kids. Great they live a lot of good stuff there to either looked into I know from my office furniture. Politika loop around. There's one right down the street from me. Might take a look around. And see what i can find out. Wayfair has been good for finding deals By dot com for a practice that you went sliding doors trying to opportunities for patient benches. So that's a good side. That's pretty affordable to sometimes kia. Gotcha gotcha so then the cabinets you made right now. Are they like custom like. Oh wow okay gotcha gotcha. So that's nice then. Yeah customer work. You get to pick took the stone on top and that press in in my opera tories. I wanted very minimal excited duty. Upper cabinets moore cabinets. What do you do with them. You just hide stefan. So yeah that's gonna my loss. Jim cabinets sign any chance. Have you gone to any of the breakaway seminars. I read the acreage book. Knows about it. Okay did did you take like there. 'cause you know how like the philosophy with cabinet everything rattling when it comes to the by any chance you follow any of that or not. I'm pretty close to their opportunity style. i don't why they're liber unit set up think it looks really bad But everything else efficiency making the opportunities small. I'm all about that Because if you can maximize your time maximize face. That's the biggest bang for your buck in so many opportunities are like nine eleven or something like that So they're pretty pretty pretty tight. But at the same time. Mike needle Dental petur enlists sedation. Sweeter surgery suite or something like that. You're building specific for certain type of procedure Okay so then. We got the sterilization senator like the cabinets and everything then. We got the equipment. The mechanical dean mechanical. What else was in the budget breakdown. So that was the first big order. I've place last june august which was like that was terrifying. She like. I don't even know if i'm going to build you at committing to buy seventy thousand dollars equipment so that was like a little faith to sign that one so that the budget my technologies i have currently if i buy everything that i i will be spending around two hundred eleven dollars this technology. What's what's what's like breakdown mean what's that sets Cbc t accompanying nomad decks is. Sensors are also selling sailors initial Indo setup decks is software implant kids. Nitrous enjoy cameras. Three printer scanner taxes every Added fifty thousand in there. Destroy initial supplies. I think i'm gonna come in under that Like i said earlier. I wanted to dig. Numbers could shrink versus small numbers. That i'm forced to grow in feel pain when like i have to increase that. Yeah that's true man. So much was that in total colonel. Absolute two hundred two hundred ten plus dollars. Wow that would have been more of a like. I'm really signing this in the commits all but yet are committed supposed to has that in so the other things like i said earlier like you cut. Say our can't afford this. Laser are now five to six thousand dollars. You can take a budget by a few months once you get more cash flow. Yes so that's kinda good every single. Why and then you can pick what is most important thing that any now Amended pretty good. I think initially. I had budgeted two hundred twenty five thousand for my equipment and so you're on track. Yeah yeah it's good. Who do you plan to go with for your initial supplies. I'm using patterson. Just because the rep that i know here i can and sorted them when i do a kind of price shop tune them net thirty to facebook marketplace. You bay see where those savings gotcha and so so far. The most savings is patterson is gather initial quote coming in this week for initial supplies. We had a meeting about our strategy. Going to the big supplies book in taking out a single thing that i wanted to take that and see. My philosophy is like goes imitations mouth and stains. This'll be a really nice to the next quality. If it goes in and you take out away is going to be from the website that i can get it. The cheapest muss efficient this interesting. So then what do you. What in the meeting that you had. A patterson what did you like and not like about the how everything went really light so record record us is rep at my current practice and he braces his everything us there and it was like. Hey this is what we use like. put it all together So i didn't like too much about was pretty pretty standard. Meeting is just so much stuff yet. Order dental practice in the question of order as six months supply day one or joy. Do a month's supply get me through the first month and then order bigger and so during the latter. I'm trying to do like a month to two of just as much suppliers. Give me by. Keep my my overhead in my my loan amount of salt as possible. And once we start ramping up business Doctor ordered gotcha for those of the ones who are listening right now and then. They're like i haven't gotten to that stage yet of talking to a robot equipment right. Maybe they're just about a that leased or maybe they're just thinking about doing a startup. How does how does a meeting like that. Go expect johnson. A coffee showed up. We started page one in this book in went through it all and said this is what i don't like i think that's a doctor on good. Know what you do and what you don't like that makes it so much easier because you can Maybe i could use this that system or whatever that's why Practice a few years before you jump into it. 'cause you can now this is practice. This is what. I want to buy to buy coronation systems. And hope you like. Yeah gotcha gotcha already so then. And then after that they were telling you we'll give you guys a quote if you like to quote you're going to go with them if you don't like the quote what's going to happen. I'll probably get itemize. Those stunner in scope through each product is good I don't wanna do this one yet. So this kind of see how it works in his budget half and then take give back to my. This is what. I want a few weeks before open. And can you get it all taken. Careful what they don't order from them just finding Assault yesterday on a face garage sale. Like cassettes for instruments. Going like thirty to thirty five dollars. I missed that one and that is a great way to save money to use grab dental garage sales. So mike that got you. That's awesome okay. So then when it comes to you talked about the technology is it involved in that or no. Yes i t snuck up on me I would admit so. I had to my initial budget. Basically leasehold improvements equipment in the neck. Marketing furniture. asakusa elena. My friends at opened a few years before Have t was a hell. Expensive could not be excessive. Computers and cords like are can get a best. Buy by something deadlines he is around like twenty to twenty five thousand Physically budget initial setup cost price other conway solutions. They're here houston His knudsen andy. He's been an amazing to work with So our funeral houston area. I would highly recommend him so he basically that was him last august and said hey. This is kind of the practice. I i'm do opportunities Tv's by across the patient. Tv's on ceiling. And then computers until the clocks and of wire everything and get wifi. Get security cameras Gig hall hall shebang but he. He did a great job and excited to see. Our assistance. work are analogy so. It snuck up on you. What else snuck up on you. Like i'd see than the security deposit for the least space so basically is to pay First month's rent in like last month's rent and if the pay it when you sign a lease which was like last august sounds like seventeen thousand dollars. I have to pay back mutation so that was. That wasn't fun. When you least barlett you gotta put down thousand bucks. Fear security positive whenever it said the concept on this genome. A ten year lease was a numbers program base. Yeah yeah totally get everyone. We like your. Do you remember like you remember when you first moved out. And you're you're looking at apartments in your. This is only a thousand two hundred thousand a month rate. Like you're thinking get totally pay. That i got that right. And then they come in deposit first month's last month and then like i don't know i guess some money you're like damn radio here that could that could definitely sneak up on you okay. So then was. It technology you had also leasehold. Improvement architect v. Miss do we what else what else is in this budget breakdown. Semi architect fee budget for around tended to two thousand dollars as a stage number They'll be due to all the designs Get everything set up for you. are used. A company called studio gail on their out here. Huston's well man. They are figuring awesome as well. I felt my team is a rockstars. Semi overall budget for the build out is around. Three hundred and fifteen thousand dollars for the entire go doubt if i get all ends. I want In it and so far you have it you only signed off on how much of a percentage of that a scientific lately for the build out Sort of build is through. Engine fifteen thousand. And it's paid in installments. So basically when percent the project's done they get fifty percent pay mail and ninety percent the final ten percent on the hook for all of it analog runaway by so i would say that with architect cheesy all the interior onto core. I'm roughly around three fifty three eighty thousand dollars or entire up on the more expensive side But i wanted a little bit nicer office. No so i could save money elsewhere. so my cost per square foot is around twenty six. I think houston goes from one twenty to one thirty thirty being nice when twenty this at the office so good medium six even though and miscellaneous i guess you talked a little bit about marketing and advertising. What do you recommend. Or how much did you like budget for that. Do you think you should have done more or less. Or what do you think So far i've spent too much marketing spins on. Did a company called unlocked. Pto that was another extensive. Kinda snuck up on england's anita Emigrated jobs for insurance depreciations. I didn't want to go through each insurance company. Ambulance is did it. All for me and almost in network with all the insurance is i want to be a europe with But yeah intense advertising. I haven't invested too much money. Because i want to get a good. Roi back from. And i don't just want to to my practice out. There not had the states yet when people forget about you the first first month have budgeted couple thousand just to targeted facebook ads deciding if i wanted to do. Direct mailers or not To me it's kind of a loss costs but like allowed people own a great fire made when she got those first few months. I mean a sin those two apartments next door to me allah but social. Media's got me a lot of free inorganic traction on for getting hype about the taxes. Could he people engaged. Don't mind us pay a marketing company. Forty thousand dollars. I got a nice website in the cards but he doing to get patients to my door. A lot people will promise anew. Clever mike wow make sure or. They're before going trout to another company. Catching axiom an awesome. So this was a this was a really really helpful budget breakdown man. I appreciate it. So then what i know we. We didn't jump into it and we're going to jump into it on the next episode. But what's next. What's next so houston is warm up a bit and once once it warms up then our bill going on. Today i was working on a bunch of forms of its forms. Basically consent forms on new patient forms in getting them all sent over to our online scheduling online foreign ready to go I'm gonna be interviewing a few people next few days to bring on. Start working on on my team and Things are really hitting the ground runnin. learning all my system's getting trained on everything on is just gonna be a big month of february but men were gonna dear ready to go nice skies. Nice guys if you have any questions or concerns or anything like that and you wanna pick mitchell's brain a little more. You can go on the show notes. Below find him. There follow his journey in real time on social media. And mitch. man won't talk to you in the next episode of ours michael. It was a great being on my ear shenice.

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Hour 3: Chris Davis's Ticking Clock

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Hour 3: Chris Davis's Ticking Clock

"Welcome to Spain. And fits the podcast Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty presented by progressive insurance guest. Join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Sarahspain Jason Fitz. And if that week, I don't know how trae is holding himself together it suddenly you walk around campus at ESPN, U C, putting greens everywhere. You know, it's masters week. So we're gonna head the shell Pennzoil performance line where we're joined by Jason Sobel senior Gulf writer for the action network. Jason I can't ask a question about the masters without starting with tiger. So there's Tiger Woods have a viable chance of winning this weekend. Yes, I do. I think as very viable chances. The most optimistic that tiger has been coming into master's in at least a half decade. And there's no red flags. There's no warning signs is game seems good. He's healthy right now doesn't mean that he's going to go out and win. I think the biggest hurdle for him is. The same hurdle. There is for everyone. The fact that there's just so much great competition out. There are no longer that just tiger and the rest of the field. But there's tiger and Rory and Justin Thomas and rose and Fowler and kept going all these other great players out there, and it's just really hard to win these things. Now probably a lot harder than it was fourteen years ago. The last time he won a green jacket. You know, there's kind of dueling narratives one is that he's more setup than ever before. And this is his best shot at winning a major and the other is that he struggles on par fives. And some of the things that you need to do. Well in order to win at Augusta which narrative is taking over for you as we get ready for him to play. The course. I almost think that he's fallen into a pattern of how he strategizes. His way around major championships. I almost it. Now. Sarah, he comes out a little tentative in the first round. I've always likened him to a heavyweight fighter who just throws a couple of jabs in the opening round doesn't really try to throw any haymakers and shits about seventy one in the first round. I think going a little bit lower sixty eight sixty nine the second round still around the run twentieth place blame pretty well. Saturday, the fireworks come maybe a sixty six or so where you look at me and said boy a few more putts drops you really could add a super low number and then on Sunday plays. Okay. But just start a little too far behind to catch the leaders and finishes in six place. I mean, I it feels like we've seen the script so often before and it wouldn't surprise me. If we see something just like that over the next four days, we're talking to Jason civil senior Gulf writer for action network as we get ready for all the masters coverage. You can handle on Spain and Fitz. Sarahspain Jason Fitz. I find it interesting. Jason that ten of the last thirteen winners have been first time champions. Why is it that they're having that sort of rate of success would new champions at the masters? I think first of all these guys prepare better for this tournament than any other one. So unlike maybe fifteen twenty years ago guys are coming here on little scouting trips. They're asking older players for advice. They're working with club caddies when they come here. Not during masters week when they come here before the week on little prep trip. So they understand that. And then there's just there's so many good players right now the fields are so deep that top eleven players on the official world golf ranking right now have never won a masters. I I don't know that we ever could have said that before most likely because tiger was always near the top of those rankings at least over the last two decades. So right now you look at it. And it's like, well, they're all very capable and viable winning the masters this week. So it wouldn't be surprised at all the other first time champion decent syllable senior Gulf right of the action. Doc masters here on Spain. Rickie fowler. Still looking for his first major. This is a chance for him to take that step. I sure do. In fact, that's my pick this week. I I love Ricky. I think that at thirty years old. He's still got the criticisms of being guy who hasn't won enough in his career and is more style than substance. I think there's a lot of substance. There is a big time talent. I love the fact that he's at this intersection of current form and core fishery the current form he's one already this year in Phoenix. He's had a couple of other top ten finishes. He's played really well. And of course, history points in the right direction as well. He was the runner up to Patrick read just a year ago. So he plays really well here at Augusta. If it's not this week. I think he wins a major championship very soon. But he's my pick to win it this week. Jason you just said Patrick read. We forget the defending champion. He hasn't had a top ten finish since October. Does he get back on track in your mind this weekend? No. I'm a firm believer in that players have to come to Augusta National with their game intact. You can't come here and try to find something and just two weeks ago. Patrick Reed reportedly started working with David Ledbetter new swing coach for him. And I've gotta think that he's somewhere somewhat less than dialed in with his swing right now. So I can't imagine that Patrick Reid is going to come out and be the first player since tiger in two thousand and two to successfully defend his masters title. I guess it wouldn't shock me. But it would be a little surprised if he was up there this weekend. Spain and Fitz getting ready for the masters talking to Jason symbol of the action network. All right. So while everybody else's suj- tiger fans. Everybody wants tiger to win. Jordan Spieth is my guy. I think there should be more chest, bumping golf course. I just like the elements. He brings a little bit of youthfulness. He's dropped from one to thirty third. He hasn't won since the two thousand seventeen British Open. Now a lot of chest. Bumping and going on lately. My guy to be in the. Running here. If it's going to be anywhere. It would be here. I just don't see it for the same reason. I just said that about Patrick read. You can't come here and find your game. Jordan speed hasn't finished better than thirtieth place. So far this year and just don't see him. Coming to Augusta National and figuring it out automatically even though in the past. He's played. So well, here's got to win. He's got to runner up finishes. Never been worse than eleven in five starts at this golf course. And yet, I just don't think he can turn it around that quickly. I don't think it'd be terrible this week. But I do think that I it's part of a growing trend for him. And guys tell me if you see where you can spot. What's wrong with Jordan, Steve so far this year is opening storing scoring average opening round store average on Thursdays. You ranked sixteen second round fourteenth third around two hundred eight and final round store average two hundred v. I don't know. I was trying to figure out the trend there. Can you help me out? And wow, he needs to eat as we weeds. For day three. Well, one thing I know is that the accent is gonna be incredible. And Jason won't be on top of all follow him on Twitter at Jason Sobel, T A N. Jason we appreciate your time. Thanks for joining us. Ma'am. You got thanks for having me and enjoy the tournament this weekend. Don't forget you can catch rounds. One and two of the masters on ESPN coverage tomorrow and Friday starts at three pm eastern, Syria. You shut everything down to watch the masters like is it is it destination viewing for you know. But if I'm home, and I happened to turn on my TV, and it happens to be on that channel. And I see that it Sunday and anybody's closed on my for a little bit. I mean that that's that's nothing. I'm not kidding everywhere. I walked today on campus. I saw TV's that had that had golf on. And suddenly, there's putting greens all over the place like everybody's like working on their office heading. So I think this this week is where productivity just takes a complete to backseat to everybody working on. They're putting game which I learned today. All those years, a pup putt serving me. Pretty well. On those practice putting greens not bad. Just didn't have any clowns though. Well, just me that was that was just make late. Thank you so much. We're presented by progressive insurance. I'll guess join us on the shell Pennzoil performance line. Coming up next shocking. I know drama in LA is never going to end. But where's he going to? Where's it gonna lead to Williamson that question? Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Magic Johnson Spain and fits if there was one thing we were sure over the Lakers just two things we knew that LeBron's going to be around till LeBron doesn't want to be around and magic synonymous with the Lakers. We weren't sure. Who the head coach was going to be? We weren't sure what rob link is futures. The GM was going to be. But the one thing we all pretty good about is LeBron a magic in a harmonious relationship. Those two superstars we're going to bring in converting everybody this summer to join them with the Lakers. Now, it wasn't going to be easy. But that's what we although it was going to happen that changed twenty three hour. Hours ago when magic abruptly let the world know he was quitting Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio the ESPN app. Siriusxm channel eighty Sarah. Spain Jason Fitz in this sort of continues of themes Sarah of what we've all felt all year. We understood it was gonna be a tough year for the Lakers you and I both went into this season saying, hey, barely making the playoffs would be victory for this team as they're currently constructed. I don't think what anybody could have predicted was how off the rails. It would go in a drama sense from the get-go it felt like even though in the beginning. They were having some success. Once LeBron was hurt at midseason. It was no longer about basketball. It's been about sort of all of the conversations off the court in possible trades and what they're gonna do. And and who's going to be higher fired? Who's going to be let go who's going to be traded who doesn't have value, and it just feels like all of it. I it just sort of kept going in snowballing to the point that it's out of control. And now, it's the magic support of it. That's just stunning from a Laker stamp. Point. Yeah. And I think you know, there's a part of me that has hesitated to try to put too much blame on the Brown. James? I think that's an easy thing to do. But when you look at how this team has not taken steps forward despite his arrival a lot of that is personnel. Right. They made bad decisions about who they surrounded him with a lot of that is injury case, we'll give you those two. But this is the Lakers team that last year had a final record of thirty five and forty seven and this year has a record of thirty seven and forty five you win two more games because LeBron. Even with the injury. You win two more games. That's it by adding LeBron and rage on Rondo. And you know, like, I said probably not the right people. This was the worst three point shooting that LeBron had surrounding him since the last time he didn't make the playoffs. But why then did you create a team around him that look the way it did knowing what we've known about how it works to plan around him. Right it shooters not playmakers necessarily so the Lakers fell apart in a way that many predicted. Do we just blame the people who put the roster together? Do we blame LeBron for presumably being a part of who dictated? How that roster would look. And why is there so much backstabbing? You know, we talk about some of the best teams in the league fits, and they are very often teams that we don't hear a lot from the best run organization in the NBA for a really long time has been the Spurs. We do not even know what RC. Buford looks like we don't hear about him. We don't. Right here. The moves. He's making right. And I'm not saying that it has to be that silent. But why do we hear Jeannie on a podcast thing? She doesn't know whichever team member she can trust. Why do we hear all these stories about rob pulling up being liked? Why do we hear Magic Johnson in the tampering? There's so much going on there. And that to me would worry me a lot. If I were a free agent looking to play there will ya? I mean, what's the sales pitch this summer? If you're going to go to not just Anthony Davis. If you're going to go to any of this this summer's marquee players. What's your sales pitch complain L A because it's a great place. But don't go to the clippers come to the Lakers because here we've got it figured out. I mean, I I'm saying that sarcastically. But that is sort of what it feels like I can't now make the statement definitively that Luke Walton is going to be the coach that rob Pelinka's going to be the GM. And if Luke Walton rob Pelinka Magic Johnson are all gone and the entire organization suddenly goes into. Flux. What's up mean for LeBron? I mean, we would think LeBron wants to be there. But at the same time does he want to spend his last three years struggling to make the playoffs with the core? That's not good enough to get it done. And no security around him that they're getting things better. I'm making things better. I don't I don't see a great future right now. And that's a long considering what we thought twelve months ago yet. And I think, you know, the problem is who do you trust right in most situations, you can remove the toxic element, the poisonous element. And you figure out. Okay. We replace that with something that works, and we're fine. Who is the problem? It's Jeanie Buss for her loyalty, perhaps blinding her to whether or not people are qualified and whether they're doing a job, it's rob Pelinka for passive aggressively going after magic within the organization and being disliked around the league. It's magic for quitting without telling the organization he was doing so in for not being prepared to work as hard as he needed to be. It's LeBron for arriving in L A. And not really investing in making the fans get on his side to the point where people were vandalizing paintings of emerged early on. He was blowing off appearances at blaze pizza. He was never really explaining to people that he had a serious interest in bringing winds to the team. Right. I mean, all of those pieces are problematic, and that's where I think if you're looking to join this believing that it's as simple as a couple years ago when it would be a great pitch to have. Lebron Samak slots is very different. Well, and and that comes back to the solution of trying to figure out how to solve it. Because as you and I've been breaking down all night in my mind's eye. What you need is in incredible basketball mind that's gonna come in and fix it. Right. But if that's what we really want that that basketball mind would have to be empowered in all of a sudden you're bringing somebody in saying, hey, you can do whatever you want. You can change whatever you want again that doesn't speak to civility to that speaks to rebuild. And when you're talking about a rebuild. That's not a word. Anybody thought? That we'd be using around. Lebron if you wanted to rebuild he could've stayed in Cleveland and continued to at least find a way to dominate the east and not have to put himself all the way back at the beginning. ESPN radio presented by progressive insurance, making it easy to bundle your home and car insurance. Sarahspain Jason Fitz. Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio Stephen A earlier. He let us know during his show when he realized that the spaghetti hit the fam- what resonates with me is that we know we Magic Johnson was going to get rid of Luke Walton and Jeanie Buss repeatedly said magic doctor was basketball operations our support. Whatever decision. He made it wasn't until I heard that he wanted to get rid of rob link that all of a sudden stuff hit the Bank, and that's what makes rob Pelinka relevant in all of them. And that's a big question. That's left. Right. So if Jeanie Buss was on Luke Walton side, LeBron not LeBron magic can plan to fire Luke Walton today at ten AM out. According to Stephen a Smith, and she had said, that's not my choice. But if that's what you. You want you have the okay? And then he had said, I also think rob Pelinka needs out for number of reasons. And she had said, no, then that may be the very reason that he finally said, okay? This is it I'm going to I'm going to step away. But what does that leave them with with someone that had become so problematic that he felt he couldn't work alongside him? And according to Ramona show burns reporting this move, and I don't know if this changes when they hire new president. But this move will give rob Pelinka even more power. And that leaves you sort of questioning who becomes the face of this franchise when it comes to recruitment who becomes the face of this franchise when it comes to talking to all the aggrieved players who were part of a failed. Anthony Davis trade who are now needing to be reassured that they're a part of the plan. If they stick around this is a safe space for them to feel like they're going to be a part of what's next who's that? Who's that face who's that person? Well in Jeanie Buss won't empower magic who she loves like family to make the changes necessary. Why should I believe that? She's. Going to bring in outside mind. And then empowered that person in a way that she wouldn't empower magic maybe going to need to be someone who comes in with such a resume that he demands to be treated differently than magic who has a great name, but didn't have experienced Bob Myers coming out of Golden State, right which he has a great gig there. But maybe he wants a new challenge David Griffin. Who may be has the ear of LeBron in different ways since he was the architect that got that Cavs team, a title Masai, Jerry from Toronto, somebody Clinton Yates said Sam hinkie that would blow people's minds, but ho how 'bout it? Right. Those people that bring way more to the table than magic did in terms of actual experience with the job. And that's true. Whoever comes in would have to have such a a clout about them, and what they've accomplished it forces genius to realize and maybe this break-up forces Jeanie Buss in some ways to realize, hey, I've got a I've got a step back on some things. I mean that is a possible way that my mind could sort of make all of it makes sense in the end. I still think it's going to be. Hard for Jeanie Buss to suddenly turn around and be a different Jeanie Buss. I mean, it's the easiest solution in my mind is for her to empower, rob Pelinka more. Keep Luke Walton say, hey, we're on the path to something. And I don't know that that path is actually going to be a path that leads to success by the time. They figure all of it out again at that point. They're going to have the the worst of whatever's left from LeBron, and that's not what Lakers fans thought they were signing up for when magic sold them three year rebuilding plan coming up next. The scariest thing about the Red Sox. Isn't there three and nine start? Our next guest addresses a bigger concern for the champs Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. Spain and Fitz as we watch these bourbon garden, gnome Catholic Catholic without studying it he notices it moves like not at all it's inanimate and utterly without brain function. But despite that when it got Nomi is about how gyco not only saves people money, but also gives them access to licensed agents twenty four seven online and over the phone. It's clear to them. You should switch because. Yes. Switching to gyco is a no brainer on second thought. Maybe don't want garden gnomes to carefully. People might talk. Baseball season is going on even if it snowing like it is here in Chicago. Lots of news stories to break an one big one involving the president of the US, and we're going to bring in an expert to talk about all of them. Spain fit sarahspain Jason Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app. Sirius XM channel eighty Jeff passan ESPN MLB insider joins us. Let's start with Trump scuttling that MLB Cuba deal. What are the short term and long term ramifications of him ending this agreement just four months after it began are we really going to start with that. After you posted a picture of yourself as a twelve year old on the internet. Yeah. Listen, I you are you sure. Sarahspain I'm in a request one from you. It's for a good cause. I here's the thing. I need to find what? And I need to I need to reach out to my parents. There were there were definitely glasses involved. And I think I still have the glasses, and they were like, Harry Potter style. Last as to when you can just find an old photo of Alamo that should work. I don't think Elmo has changed very much has even give us a little bit. For those who don't get the joke. Do I have to? Stop by on question. You don't have to. But America will be disappointed in you. If you don't I mean, that's really what it comes down to. Politics is. Thank you for that. Now. Now, the really see play. I just by the way, if we could ever do this again and get the entire answer to a very serious topic Elmo that's the world. I wanna live in. But go ahead. Jeff. Yes. Oh it. You know, what this is a really complicated topic? And and when geopolitics are involved, it tends to be, but I think what it comes down to is this despite major league baseball really passing the buck on this for years, you know, going on decades at this point and allowing players who have been trafficked to third countries to then come and play baseball in the United States if they were finally being proactive about this. And maybe they're being proactive because they saw people in their universe. Getting caught up in this in this, you know net where people are going to jail because they brought people illegally to the United States. And so when major league baseball struck this deal with the Cuban baseball federation to essentially have a partnership similar to what they have with the Japanese base Nippon professional baseball in Japan, the Korea baseball organization other governing bodies around the world. It seemed. Like a good deal for both sides, then the government stepped in and essentially said the Cuban baseball federation is part and parcel with the Cuban government. And if you were you or your clubs or going to be giving any money to the Cuban baseball federation that is essentially giving money to the Cuban government, and we have an embargo preventing that. And look I understand in some ways that perspective our relationship with Cuba, going back more than half century. Now is fraught with peril and really has not improved significantly. But the idea that this administration is going to play moral authority on dealing with governments that do illicit things is laughable at best and and hypocritical at worst. And that's what we're dealing with your. It's just a lot of hypocrisy. Hypocrisy and it's really unfortunate that it manifested itself in this fashion. Just how surprised was major league baseball that the the governor. Stepped in. They were not. And and I think there's been some back channel in going on a long this process. But the day that the agreement was announced I spoke with somebody at major league baseball said. Hey, congratulations. This is a really good thing. I think for for the sport and the people involved, and and the response was yeah. We'll see what the what the Trump administration says. Because there was the there was the sense that because Barack Obama had eased relations with Cuba. Donald Trump was going to see what Obama did say, I'm going to do the opposite. No matter what it was. And and this, you know, whatever the reason was whether it is actually a moral stance that the administration is taking or they're just trying to do the opposite of what the last president did the feeling internally inside of baseball was that is much time is the league had spent on this as much effort as had been given negotiating with. Cuba with the Cuban baseball federation that the likelihood of this actually happening was no better than fifty fifty talking to Jeff passan ESPN MLB insider on Spain and Fitz, and it'll be interesting to see what happens with the players who thought they were coming over with that deal. And will now have to go back to the illegal means by which many have come before you put on Twitter, Jeff that the scariest thing for the Red Sox. Isn't there three and nine start? What is it? Then. They have a really interesting future coming up in by interesting. I mean, there's a there's a fairly decent chance. At the Red Sox are going to have some lean years ahead. And that seems weird right? Because they they have Chris sale under contract and David price and Zander Bogart's and Nathan you've all, and, you know, on on you, you know, they have a hundred you know, twenty plus million dollars worth of commitments. And that is sort of the problem because JD Martinez is not in there and JD Martinez could opt out of his contract after this season. And you know, if he has another JD Martinez like when chances are he's probably going to do that. And then there's the Mookie Betts issue and Mukhi bets has one more year after this and they Red Sox uniform where he's going to be paid about thirty million dollars. And then he has the chance to be a free agent. Head of hooky about has average. Okay. Bets years heading into free agency. We're you know, we may not be looking at a guy who gets four hundred thirty million dollars like my trout did. But we're going to be looking at a guy who's going to easily surpass three hundred that Manny Machado got the three thirty that Bryce Harper got an approach the four hundred plus that that might trout ended up getting and so there's there's the possibility that movie bets leaves there's also the fact that the Red Sox this will be the second consecutive year that they are well over the luxury tax threshold they're very likely to exceed it next year. If they want to be a contender, and if they stay under they may not be a contender. Oh, by the way, their farm system is just not very good right now. So, you know, the response that I've gotten to the stories that's been a line. Yeah. I was gonna say how is the play MRs Lincoln? You know, the responses story from Boston has essentially been scoreboard with. Yeah. Yeah. Like that's a perfectly fair response. Like, they got their championship. And just about every fan base in sports will trade a lot for a championship. So the idea that they're coming off a World Series in life is good. Yeah. That's that's pretty much the state of affairs. But I also think it's reasonable and fair to look at what the most recent championship contenders. Look like and how things can go bad. And you've seen it yourself, sir. Chicago bad when things look really really good in. All it takes is a couple of, you know, moves that don't go the right way. And we're talking to ESPN major league baseball insider, Jeff passan or nine or sandwich or saying championship is worth it. If he go to lean years, but are you willing to say that they're out of their championship window at this point for the Red Sox? No, I'm not there at this point. Yeah. And I'm not willing to say that the Red Sox because of twelve poor games at the beginning of the season. Are knocked going to be in the playoffs this year. I still think they're an extremely talented team. Team. Chris sale worries me, I will I will come out and say that right now when when I when I'm told by somebody who's close to Chris sale something's not right with him that that sounds problematic to me because Chris sales guy who always seems to be right. You know, he's a guy who last year even with a couple of stints on the DL because of his shoulder. But if I believe with two point one seventy are a and the year before he struck out over three hundred. I mean, he's had two incredibly successful seasons in Boston so far. But but the point that I made in the column was that the deal to sign him was unnecessary. The Red Sox had him for another year. Right. And and they could have used that year to see what his fastball velocity it looks like how he bounced back from star Thomas time he needed between. What has health was what his mental status was? I mean, all the things that you're looking for before you're committing super longterm to guy and the truth is if Chris sale. Had not signed the five year one hundred forty five million dollar extension. Let's say he'd gone out and had a sei-yung type of year. We're still looking at a max of six years, and you know, a hundred eighty two hundred ninety million somewhere in there. So the Red Sox really didn't get an enormous discount compared to what they they might have overpaid considering what Chris sale if he continues pitching like this would have gotten his off season talking to Jeff passan at Spain and Fitz on ESPN radio. You mentioned things can get bad very fast talk to us about Chris Davis over forty eight. It's his second straight night off. We're just early on in a massive massive deal to what can you possibly attribute what he's going through right now. I dunno. It's like, honestly, it just makes me sad. It makes me sad. And I've had this conversation with a few people because Chris Davis is like a nice guy. And and he's you know, he's just somebody. He's somebody hate to see suffer through this. And I think suffer is actually the right word because whatever it is in life all three of us in every person listening right now has gone through a crisis of confidence in something in something. Right. There's been something that has just absolutely vexed us in life. And and has made us feel bad about ourselves. And you just want to run away from it or or stared in the eyes and defeated wanna do something to get rid of it imagine that thing being what you love to do the most in life. It's really hard. To fathom being terrible. It what you love and blue Brighthouse every night and ESPN two. Right. And Chris Davis right now is terrible at what he loves and look it. He's being paid a lot of money. I mean, he's you know, he's over the next four years. It's going to be sixty eight million dollars in present-day cash. And then over the next like almost twenty years. That's not an exaggeration. He's owed another forty two million dollars into for money. So he's got he's got like one hundred ten million dollars more coming to him. And and I suppose if you're going to fail at what you love a one hundred ten million dollar, golden parachute is eight delightful thing to have in eases some of that pain. But I still, you know, just just to see just to know that in sports, you can come back from the absolute made deer and and redeem yourself I'd like to see Chris Davis do that. And and my fear is that he's just not going to get the chance. I agree. They got a lot of years left though. So hopefully, he'll find his way back to getting those chances. Hey, let me tell you something. They have a lot of years left on that deal. Chris Davis may not have a lot of weeks left with the Baltimore Orioles. Right, right. Hey, thanks for the insight has always Jeff. Appreciate it. Go looking for that childhood photo for me. I will find it. I'm gonna tax mom right now. She'll get back leaving. Thanks. Thanks. Jeff. Bye. Traveling. I will explain the childhood photo thing. Also, we'll get you up to date at all the NBA playoff scenarios as tonight's closes out the regular season. It's coming up spending bits Spain and fits it. Spain infant sarahspain Jason Fitz on ESPN radio ESPN app. Sirius XM channel eighty almost out of here on this hump day. But a couple of housekeeping things to take care of couple polls on the one eight hundred flowers dot com Twitter feed, we asked you who laid out Anthony Davis. That's all folks shirt form this, of course, because Anthony Davis sure, which is laid out for me. I didn't choose it. I didn't wear that intentionally for what could be my last game with the pelicans about thirteen percent set in the no stylist. Thirty percent led the way with his imaginary friend. I think is everyone believing and knowing that he did it himself. Twenty nine percent, his mom and twenty eight percent, Cinderella's birds and mice. So that's the results on that poll. We also asked him. Folks. That's right. You have to have one. What do you? Choose sweat bees. In your is fifteen percent person stranger living in your attic. Unbeknownst you fifteen percent and seventy percent. Most people said of the three they would take ghost in your attic. And to be fair that is easier to deal with than a stranger who may have been watching you all along y'all need to watch more horror movies. I'm just saying like, we're all presume in this casper the friendly. I'm just saying when it's like the the ring or some like distorted thing that's crawling on your ceiling and hovering over you, while you're sleeping, are you really going to be like, oh, this is much better than the guy that I could actually predict the movement of really solid point to go out and see us. We make any claims about anything. They go also quick note WNBA draft give you a couple of results from the very beginning of that Jackie young as we said, I don't Notre Dame went to the Las Vegas aces at number. One kinda surprising. She she declared early number to Asia durer guard of Louisville going to liberty number three tier mccowan. Who is always photo bombing interviews of her teammates. When's the Indiana fever? She was Mississippi State star and my Chicago sky, kahlua Samuelson out a Yukon at number four. You can obviously find all the details on ESPN w dot com from the WNBA draft tonight. Final house keeping piece of business. You heard us mention Jeff pass, and he brought up that I posted a terrible terrible tragic photo of myself at age twelve with a frisk for days. Terrible dress brutal braces, and that was furthest charity that I run called hear the cheers. It's the end of this month giving hearing aids and equipment two young kids. So they can keep playing the sports they love and the point of that post was. That childhood is very awkward and terrible. Even if you aren't also dealing with being deaf or hard of hearing. And so I'm encouraging everyone to post their terrible photos. I've been roasting people on Twitter for all the many ways that they were awkward as child. And so, yeah, if you wanna go to my Twitter, you can find the links donate and help my cause. Can I ask you a question? Yes. I need your guidance on what to do here. Okay. Because I wanna post a picture. Unfortunately, there were only two pictures that exist for much that I have and is everybody that listens to the show regularly knows. I don't have any relationship with my family, and my parents, I don't have anybody to go to to find awkward pictures. Can I just post an awkward picture of myself? That's not an adolescent since I don't have any from my you can. And I know that they'll be good enough because I've seen some of those internet. Okay, perfect. I will find awkward trouble pictures of me ally. That your awkward stage was up until what three or four years awkward stage was mostly my thirty. So thank you might still get it. That works. And I appreciate you chip in its main infants on ESPN radio sarahspain Jason Fitz. ESPN radio is presented by progressive insurance. Protecting commercial vehicles and offering specialized coverages designed to protect your business. More progressive commercial dot com. Magic Johnson sort of tanked the last night of the NBA season with his crazy dramatic news last night. But it does end tonight the playoffs begin April thirteenth. We have a lot of cool stuff in store for you coming up with the postseason. But while we're wrapping up the regular season. Couple things on the line tonight. The nets can clinch a six seed with a win against the heat or with a loss and losses by the magic and pistons they're number seven with the loss and wins by the magic and the pistons a couple other scenarios where they'd get the seven seed. So the nets are now looking at getting either the six or seven seat tonight, the magic same thing they're battling between six and seven see depending on a whole bunch of scenarios pistons can clinch a playoff spot with a win or a Hornets loss, and they can be anywhere from the seven. To the eight seed, we've got the Hornets. They clinch a playoff spot with a win and a pistons loss they cannot finish higher than number eight in the east. There are seven of eight spots clinched three seeds still up for grabs. Nets magic pistons Hornets that shows you what's going on in their the west coast nuggets, they can get the two or three seed rockets to three or four we talked about this earlier fits, and that's a crazy one. If the rockets ended up the four. Yeah, that's actually that's a loss for the NBA right there. Because that would mean in the second round, we could get rockets warriors. And that's just it's too early for that match up that adds up is going to be epic. That's the one in the west that I'd be looking most forward to I need that to be the Western Conference finals, not the the second round. It's another. It's lose the rockets are a number two seed if the nuggets win and the blazers lose the rockets are number three if the nuggets win and the blazers win the rockets drop all the way to number four. So keep an eye on that one. The blazers can be three with a win and inaugur twin otherwise they are. Number four seed with a loss. The thunder can be a six with a number of things happening a seven with a number of things happening or an eight with a number of things happening. That's a big range for the thunder as well. As we mentioned earlier, we could also be seeing thunder warriors in the very first round. If they dropped down to eight seed, a clippers can be seven or eight Spurs can be a six a seven or an eight. So that's a lot of movement in the west that the playoff spots are cliched. But the six seeds are all still up for grabs. So there's a lot of movement that can happen in that Western Conference. There's a ton on the line tonight fits, and we'll go back to one team you mentioned in the east that I just need think needs a little bit more loving what they're doing. And that's the nets because you know, all European saying, hey this summer. The nets are in a position where they can move, and they can be movers. I think that this playoff is going to give them a little bit more shine in. It's going to put them in an even better situation this summer. No matter what they do. So we'll does tomorrow we're bringing in. That's expert to talk to us about their surprising return to the playoffs this year and will help us break down that first round matchup wherever they end up. So we're one step ahead on that Fitzy. That. Yeah. And like I said, we have a lot of cool content that we have planned for you coming your way as the NBA playoffs ramp up. So stick with us and send me your awkward photos. 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MBF Episode 268 - "Episode 270"

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MBF Episode 268 - "Episode 270"

"The british. Include. Real. Damn deebo got a question for you, and I hope you have an answer that I can't figure out as long as it's within forty two minutes. I'm. You know, we set, we say that, but I really, it starts to lose meaning when we keep doing an hour and a half every week. Just put not this week. And I'm not you all night. So help me do some math here because awhile back you and I did Samak and we both somehow came out to the same answer. You did the math, I and then I did the math and I was like, yeah, agree with your math. Deebo redid the math and I no longer agree with our math. Are we talking about Sturt math now? No, this is deal this calendar, Matt. Okay. All right. So this is episode to sixty eight. Okay. This will be released in a few days on the fifteenth. Look give a calendar in front of you pull calendar depot. Calendar. That's a calendar here. What device? It's on gimme calendar DO. All right. So to sixty eight will release on October fifteenth, correct. October twenty. Second is to sixty nine over twenty ninth is to seventy. That means November fifth is to seventy one. November twelve is to seventy two. Then the nineteenth is to seventy three that's after well, that's at the end of our talent of our trip, then to seventy four's on November twenty six to seventy five is until December third. Tell me how we both are fucking retarded and you know, I don't, you know, I don't like using that word lightly, but tell me we're both so stupid. How does that help? Bladen. Working it was we counted them. I actually thought to seventy five was I thought it was either going to be the week. I think it was supposed to be the week before we went on the trip, and I remember saying we're going to take a week off so that to seventy five would be the episode after the trip, and then we could put something together. So what happened. I don't know. Wow. How did you want it that way? And then it was like weeks later where I went and counted myself. I told you on the show was like, oh, yeah, boy, counted it. And you're right, and you're like, I told you book and got the ship planned out. We were on the same page. We agreed at that time. Why? Here's the thing. How come nobody listening corrected us? Wait, are we onto sixty eight though? We are. I thought you might have missed numbers. Say what I'm doin I got to sixty seven was the old to finger pinch to sixty six was I want it that way to sixty five is kid problems do more to show strand. I. For the life of me. I can't. I have no idea where like I thought the same thing like did I did I name an episode wrong like like it was supposed to be two fifty two and I name it to forty eight and then throw the count off or something. And I just built from there. But no, I scroll through. I see nothing wrong. So how did we fuck this up? Deebo. Why are we going into December now with? And now we can't have a week off. If we had taken a week off, we'd be fucking going into Christmas. I can't. This is the show that won't. That's a great episode. This. Yeah, I have no idea because I was looking at yesterday and I was trying to figure it out because I was looking into while I knew that we were ahead of schedule. So I was like, we're gonna take a week off and I was trying to figure alley wanted to look at it and be like, could we take the wheat lake? Should we take the week off like leading into the trip? And because in my head I was like, no, that's not a good week to take off because it'd be fun to do an episode, you know, talking and getting ready to go into the trip. So I was like maybe the week before that take a week off, come back. We do the episode talking about. We're getting ready to go on the trip. We would record a, we're going to record a bunch audio for while we're there, but anybody not to wear those dates are it's a Friday, Saturday, Sunday, Monday, sixteen through the nineteen th were most of us are coming back on the twentieth. So the issue will be the episode that releases that week will not be releasing till after I get home and Mabel to edit it. So on. The the twentieth at the earliest that'll be the first and only episode to not drop on Monday. But I have. I shouldn't say no way. It's it's just not going to happen. I mean, like I, in order for me to get an episode while we're gone, we would either have to like you had to bring a computer in if it's yeah, or we'd record one ahead of time, but it's, I don't know. I feel like people would not want that. Like, why would you you? It would feel like listening to a rerun doomsaying on that Monday or whatever you're listening to us talk and you don't get to hear any of the details from the trip. I think people would rather wait a day and get to get the details on the trip. So the one that will release on the twentieth or the twenty first, whenever I can get it too, will actually be an episode that we will record. Wow on the trip that 'cause they're, we're probably going to record more than one types of a lot of it will be like sideshow related, but the but you and I will sit down and record at least one normal MB episode. So. So that we have one episode that we recorded together in the same room. And everybody else of course will be there to to contribute, but I'm currently working on making sure that I have a laptop. I'm going to get the right software on there. I got a dig out my old USB Mike. So you know, so that we're not recording like a webcam Mike or something. Just abbey. Yeah, December Devaux. This shit can't end December. You're fucking the need to go back in the kid. All of them. This is your plane right to just continue to talk at that three hundred well into next year. I feel like that's what you're doing. And I'm going to research this because I know I kind of those fucking we both countered. I counted them to this is to walking Groner human being people just not no math. We're stupid. Jesus. That's what they're saying. I have no idea and I don't understand. I mean, I'm guessing nobody else rain to their calendar to like check our math, but not one person spoke up and was like, you're, you're nowhere near being done. We it's to sixty eight right now. I mean we've seven episodes to go in east said, it's not to seventy is to said it's not though. Yeah. So Tig math. Okay. Remember when Samsung skipped over the note as ROY straits. Seven, right? This is what this is. So you're saying, all right, so here's what we do. We edit this part out and we just posted his up to seventy. It's eve. Anybody. Here's what we do. That's the actual name of the title. The now the name of the show is is episode two seventy. I wanna see. What if what if we, what are we cut this input? It is like golden content sideshow. It's even ever caught it. Listen. What have we just stop? We labeling the shows with episode numbers, and then we end it whenever we want. Daddy, rich ever. Tube seventy. All the fuck. All right. Oh, it's a big one Devaux we've been waiting for this one. Danny is getting so fucking close to November trip. Only five episodes left IBO. I can't believe it's so close. Post though. Good. I sat here, let's just stare at calendar. Just counting. You don't have any time. I counted Mondays and I was like, I don't get it. The league doesn't. 'cause I can't even think like we're off by like a weird number. Right. So we're off by three. Three episodes. So I'd because I if it was off by a five or ten, I'd get it because you'd be like, oh, it was two fifty. And I started counting like it was two sixty or something dumber like or two fifty five. And I started counting like it was two sixty for some reason something you just rounded up, but what bucking world would you just be off by three. Get this. That's weird. I don't get it. I don't know what happened. So let's just keep plowing on ego. Here's the good news. Here's what I'll tell you. Bye bye. My plan. Two of our episodes will be will be recorded while we're on the trip. Right? We're gonna do one normal NBA wanted this case, right? Because here's the, we're going to you got what you want. This is what you've always wanted. This was your playing the whole time. Wait, like your Jeep would if we record to tonight, and we just dropped one on Monday and one on Thursday, and we start playing catch up. I was thinking to forty five minute episodes. To sixty case. To sixty to sixty nine or coming out this week. Distorted doing this job and multiple episodes on these Thursdays being? Yeah, we've always done too weak. So these are the right. We just never missing. So I think this is so by the time we get to November trip, if record to resolve then how many will we be short by one. Art so we'll know will. So the weeks will still last the same. That's the thing that we still won't be ending until December third will be our last one. But what I'm saying though, is. We're gonna art. So we're going to record. I'm gonna go back and do the math. All right. So to sixty eight drop it on the fifteenth and then to sixty nine to seventy on by the October twenty ninth. That'll be our Halloween episode and two, right? Yeah. Two seven. What did I say to seventy two seventy one. Sorry on November fifth, right to seventy two on November twelve. I'm just saying look how easy this gets on the twelfth onto seventy two or whatever. We're, we're gonna be talking about the trip and planning and you know maybe we'll have some of the what I now call the main six. We'll have those on there like it will just be a warm up right. Then while we're there in LA. We will record. I, I think it's gonna be that Friday night are going to record our thanksgiving episode which is just going to be all of US House guest recording. While we sit around and eat dinner together, would number is that that will end up being like two seventy three, right, right. I think. And then and then at some other point during that we can you and I will sit down and record an irregular mbia that will air the following week. So the thanksgiving episode will come out onto twenty and then and then a prerecorded NBA there was recorded from LA the first time you and I ever staring each other in the face data come out on the twenty six. So we get. We do get kind of a week off because those are easy stuff and that's going. I mean, it's gonna feel like two, three weeks off the we don't actually come back and sit down in front of our computers until we come to. Record the final episode that's what you wanted, but that's what you were saying all time. Right? But that's also why we were looking at taking weeks off so that we could come back and do a proper final episode in. It wouldn't be like the, you can't have the last episode be before we go to LA and you couldn't have it be the very, do you know you can have that less of will be the one due to come out. You know, while that Monday while we're still in LA like it'd be weird. The last episode is late and then I don't know. It wouldn't be a proper one. If we're just they're like. You know, I got, I got clips. I gotta put together and music montages and I got plans for the final episode. So. So, but I think though that when we look at it as you and I will record on the twelve as a normal, are the week for the, you know, for November twelve. So sometime that weakened for we won't sit down from computers into another regular episode on till like November, thirtieth, and we'll record. We'll sit down record the final episode and it'll drop December third, and we walk away never talk to each other again. Until. Until we don't talk about that. No, we're not there yet. Diva. Oh, of details. But yeah, till January. Next now? No, no, January January earliest. Do we keep up with the shirt bits at the showings. We'll see. I, I think that might be I don't think it will start immediately after survivor series. It probably won't start until we might do like Royal rumble through mania, like instead of leading up to roll rumble, we may start on Royal rumble. Does that make sense? And we'll we'll end it on mania. Just, you know, make it a big one. But it'll it'll coincide. And then maybe maybe some other people wanna get in on it by then. But we'll see. So. Good. How the I'm trying to just this is gonna bother me all night. Oh, it to know how I felt that that did that make sense? It doesn't make sense. I don't know. I don't know how I login looked at pull my counter. This is where sounds like good record this episode this. So out. Start counting the Mondays in the numbers of win. You know, the trip would be, and I figured when we was recording, rightly record something in the same house during the trip that following week, whatever we post that recording, that will be to seventy five. Yeah, that's what I count it. I candidate ENA what I can't with my baby momma too. So that's how I know that four, three people all don't know fucking that in the hundreds of people that listen to us because nobody has said anything. Not one person said anything. It's fucking insane. I don't know. I feel like Trump did this. Dear. Let's let's try to make sense of some other stuff. So I got into this is a small topic. I got into a tiff with somebody over the weekend. Hope there was somebody talking about this university of Tennessee nickel? Yes, no, I've seen. I've seen. I've I right before we got on here. I got onto Facebook for about twenty two seconds. Got a good just of what went down today. 'cause DiBa was flooding those post. I am fucking these people and you know me, I'm not into. I don't talk shit about Nick's professional teams college football you do, you are, you know, that's when you are a college trash talker? Yeah, college trash Audie. 'cause that's what we do say you're an amateur, trash talker. Not a professional trash talker. Yeah, you could say that because I don't trash professional teams tonight. That's bad taste, but college is fair, which is weird because for the most part, your professional team is better than your college team for like at least last couple years. Yeah. Yeah. It's funny you'd think you'd be like all about that, but you really, you really don't too much. You're actually wait harsher on your professional team than you are your college team you? I've really team of pats won multiple McCarthy. I give lots of passes. My college team has won several championships and team. I've seen my cars, the win a championship in my lifetime. My college team is going through transitions, right? They just got a new coat. Our team has been pretty much well established for the past three or four years. So in his professionally, like the falcons. So I'm harsh on them because I see as organization, they're not making the right moves, whereas Tennessee is not that they haven't made the right moves. They had a lot of that look, right, I Timothy. We ended up getting blanking as our head coach who stayed a fucking year and left in the middle of the night, which USC stunk up the fucking place. Right? We ended up getting a Butch Bush Kelly, and he totally sold us a Bill of bag goods in lost for two straight years in one, no conference, not a conference win, right in two years. That's unacceptable, right? You can move in have a loser season in a considered as a high profile job. You can. Lose have a losing season, but to win not one game of your conference. Not just in like the conference on our side comes conference, the split in half. That's that's. That's ridiculous. Like we lost to our full Bama bama's like our may rival bama's like just for the past ten years, been crazy a saving, but we lost two straight years to Vanderbilt who is the worst fucking college scene in there are instate rival and we lost to Vanderbilt at home. We lost to Kentucky at home. We've lost a USC, which South Carolina at home. That's bad. That's unacceptable. Georgia is good toward is good. Sometimes tennis Bama is good. Those are all arrivals. But if you're gonna lose our instate rival who doesn't have traditionally have a good team anti USC who traditionally doesn't have a team and Kentucky. That's just horrible unacceptable. He needed to go. So we've had some bad luck over the last few years just with coach. So I've given them. I'll give them pass now Pruitt. This is year one. He's at five hundred right now if he wins like four more games where bowl game out and I'm ex, I'm happy with that. That's a winning season. Yeah, yeah. So I mean you you, you have reason to be optimistic? I'm exactly optimistic where the falcons I feel like we're running out of time. Right? Right. Julio is getting younger, Matt, Ryan isn't getting, you know what to do is that's all it's weird. You're right. That's always the you would think that'd be an issue with college teams where you have a small window because of the the turnover and players. But it doesn't feel though it when a program gets good, they can be good for a while. It was in college once your program is good, it entices war. Absolutely. So you can constantly refill, whereas a professional team, you get a good draft pick which you know there's only one who you'll Jones, right. We traded up in the draft was down for several years to get it. We squandered his talent. If his the bulk of his career in it's gonna be fucked up. You know you just like everybody else. Lifespan in NFL is not that long, especially for. Seaver who has never had knock on wood. Any major injuries? Yes. Couple turtles in there, but he hasn't had any major surgeries, you know, we're, we're squandering his best years. Matt, Ryan is definitely on the tail in his grave been here for fucking almost ten years. Any still fucking up your own? Knew he was already like six or seven years into the league when he came to our team, you see what happened. We had twenty dollars the greatest fucking tight end of all time. The all him. He had retired like we are not going to keep these players forever. The the lifespan of NFL player is the long was a good one. Where's Reidy white at. Roddy white. He's one of the all-time falcons receivers. He's never, he's not going to be all the time receiver vault. It'll be an all of what are you can do complain about catch Michael. Vick's passes the bitch. Okay, apple turn your back on Roddy white. I'm never right away. Never let graduate, Vic under the bus along time ago have like we'll pieces should. It will, but but that's my point light the lifespan of NFL, like quarterback receiver, running back all that is not that long. And right now, our offense is really good. We had to take advantage of it, and I feel like coach Queen is fucking up by printing too much his coordinators, he puts too much control his office coordinator hands. He's definitely put too much control in his defense according to like. Last year we had a top ten defense right this year. We have the worst now. I'm gonna see here we don't. We didn't have injuries. We had a lot of fuck Majorie on each side. But in you pick up new players to feel the roads right? Etowah Carolina did and you signed somebody to take to feel the row because right now we're in win. Now. We are not in rebuilt face in if you squandered at team, the average lifespan of a having a good team is not the long look at the ravens. They're on their done. You look at the Seattle, Seattle's defense, right? The legion of boom is gone. Go from four five years. You gotta start, you gotta start rebuilding their yet to start rebuilding, right. Who else was good team is not good anymore. Dealer even. Yeah, even. To, you know, saying Denver they were good for like four years defensively in now they didn't, but they wanna championship. Seattle won a championship. He's like, these are teams that won a championship win. They were hot. They struck by the iron was heights ain't when New York you gotta strike what iron is high when your team is gotta win, and guess what any? We're in year three of having a good. He went to the Super Bowl two years ago. We didn't do shit last year. We made it to the playoffs in this year shit again, having a great year. Yeah, it's always tough. And you feel like racing. If your best players primes. That's what I'm saying. Like if we're in year three of, if you look, if you say, say the average is four years with the same place, right? We're in year three and it doesn't look like we're going to be doing anything for now, at least for this year because we have way too many issues on our defense. Ireland are defensive secondary, and our, our leader on defense Dion Jones is out for the year. Right, right. Well, DeAngelis ten, but at that point is gonna be too late. So our defense secondary, which all these guys will pro bowlers all of the probe whole of secondary's there we had our injured right. Though they're injured and you have to wait till they come out. Fortunately, they're young, which means they'll be around for a while. Right. But you know, you may be able to keep them through free agency. They may go to other teams, whatever, whatever. Our offense is not going to be young forever. They're going to trail off. Julio's going to get worse. Eventually, you know, sununu is going to get worse. Eventually, you know. No. I mean, we got that new kid from Bama who who's good, but you know, don't he's right now. 'cause date double team Julio. So cards. I'm just. Right now, both my teams in it's okay. The difference being is my college team. There's a huge side and I see the pathway at sea is getting better it. We make into a bowl game here. We can get recruits. We can get better on. Defense, compete better in SEC in his is abroad is a progress is a process. And so we keep building in eventually, we'll have a top ten class. We can recruit some good players. Then we compete really in has these juggernauts, whereas the falcons at keep seeing teams like Carolina get better, and I keep seeing the saints get better and guess what? The fucking books get better. Yeah, we're not right, but we're not getting better like where we should be at this point. I feel like where week six or seven, we six NFL season if we lose tomorrow tank the season tank it because it's no point in trying to go out there when let's tank the season gets. Draft. We already gassing a couple of draft picks coming in this year from moves. We made last couple years as a tank, the fucking season get a tap-in draft, pick in pick up a fucking quarterback for the future because we need enough. Well, eight, at least you got something going on that you're happy about. Yeah, today take take the positives deal. You need. Those is a good Saturday, but none of those have to do with the tip I got into this weekend. That. So I don't know how much covered before on here, but there were a little couple of weeks ago. There's two girls that I was trying to pin down for a memory lane type show because the particular that I felt like I had an interesting history with, and I thought it would be fun to kind of like go over that and both them on good terms with. One of them we talked about last week. That's the the girl that may end up coming on the she may show up for the for the event in LA. We'll call her. She's shooting the McDonald's girl would I caught a sixty year pretty tummy area -tario at something for gross assay that with her belly. I don't wanna say that on the the other one was the one, and it's better member said on here, but didn't wanna do the show. Again, a patriot show. Because she was applying for a new job and they do background checks. Oh, right. Because the background checks is going to be able to hack our page on and download. On the beta. There's nothing much to that that a lick, we're not connected any way that they would. They're not looking into me for your background. Check like great in. So they're not going to subscribe to all the patriots in the world and listen to all the audio hoping they find you and and undeniable proof that it was like. That's what she was thinking could happen and that just audio Danny. But the deal. Videos, right? They'd have to watch all those, but. The level of stupidity was infuriating to me because it was like, if you wanted to say, look, I'm not comfortable coming on there and talking about it just because I don't want to talk about that stuff or, you know, whatever. I'll accept that. That's fine. I get that. This isn't everybody's thing. But to say it's because I'm getting a background check at work, was the stupidest thing the question is, did she get the job? I have no idea. I don't care. So I, I don't know, and I was I, I was annoyed, but I didn't really like I just kinda like I didn't really like talk to her for a while. And then one day she sent me a message and I didn't. It was on like Snapchat. So I open it. I read it, but I didn't write back as just like because I was knowing, you know, I was just being dick. I was just like, I don't. I don't wanna talk to you. And then she wrote again, it was like, I think like twenty minutes later and she was like, oh, wow, really? Are you still upset? Because I won't do your show. And and I wrote back in, I wrote back there. I said, I'm at the gym. Like 'cause for all, you know, like on a treadmill. I'm not gonna. I can read the message. I'm not gonna stop running just so I could, you know, type out something and right back to you. Here's the thing. I wasn't at the gym when I read the message. I was at the gym when she sent the second message. So I was like prepared. It's like, I'll send you picture prove that I'm at the gym league in my head. I was like, I'll Alpern. I'm at the gym, but so she didn't write back. So then. I don't know week or so, but I don't really talk, you know, nothing comes up and then the other night she sends me a Snapchat and it says like, it's a picture of her and it says, post Jim selfie, and it's her in like like a sports bra. And it's just like a lot of cleavage going on, let clearly trying to get some attention right. So I don't right. I open it. Look at it. I admire, but I don't write anything back because. I don't know. I don't really know why because I'm being petty. I mean, is that the right. Is super petty. You being spiteful and your your Bill like she's being thirsty and I'm not gonna. Yeah, I'm not shaving her that attention. She's actually absolutely being. So they're also being petty petty loves company. Well, she takes thirst to another level because she sends me a message a little bit later on. I mean within the hour, probably she, she sends me like another message on Snapchat and it says, because she went through this break-up, I don't know, like a month ago, like she was with some guy for a bunch of years and they just recently broke up. And she sends me again, broken up for like a month at most. So she sends his message and it says, what? If I forgot how to have sex. Okay. So okay. That's obviously to get you to talk to her. Right. And it will give me to talk about. To it. Yeah, exactly. Interviews ruin, you know to Nord it, but here's what I wrote. Working move. Because I wanted to. Talk to the bed. 'cause this is the first time where she's actually said something like to me that I needed to respond to. Otherwise she's just sending me pictures or random dump stuff. And I'm like, I don't. There's nothing I needed or to, but this question so put it on me because if I don't respond to it's obvious ignoring her where the other stuff I could say, well, I didn't think you need me respond, but this was a question directed to me. So I felt like I need to respond. So I wrote back what a great concept for a movie that would be, and I meant it. I wanted to talk us out and flush out like I would watch a movie. We're one day some like I see it being link, Ryan Reynolds, right ladies man. He's fucking new bitch every night. And then one day he forgets how to have sex. I'm not saying it'd be a good movie. I'm just saying I could see this being a move. No, no, wait this, this this out. Let's let's flip this up. So ticket Ryan rinse as ladies exactly the in all the bitches. Yeah, he lives his reputation for girls girls? No, he's like a player. They don't care because he's so good at it. And everybody's talking about how good he is at it. He so hot in the end. He runs up on the woman. She puts a curse. Oh, it's a curse. I like this. A witchy woman is a witty woman, but she super hot rate like I don't know who's a super hot chick weight girl, Bella Hadid. Counted as Tessa Thompson. The chick with the big titties. No, that's the girl from creed. The lysine lady from creed from creo. Oh, oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I got you. I got you. She liked Jamaican in this movie, like is a Jamaican curse? No, no. Just just it's just a whiskers. I feel like she could do Jamaican curse. Let's make racist. It's kinda raises so. Let's not go. So I was thinking I was thinking Tessa. Fowler. I well, I mean you'd be a phantom sippy titties Esera. Yeah, you'd be a fan of her work. If you saw. So so she puts a curse on whoever the chickens we any insert, any bad shake, right. Sure. You could even do the chick from a modern family with the big TS area. Winter. I don't know. I, she's not good enough for Ryan Reynolds though. Now I just wanna see titties anyways. So whoever they put the curse o. rien rails right in the only way he remembers how to have sex is if he truly funds, he finds his true love, and then he remembers how to like how to love again and not just a love, but how to make love. Right, right. Right. Guess who falls in love with them. Tessa. Fowler. Early secretary. She was right there all the law. Any mall alone never noticed and appreciated her. Does she know she helps them like the chicks she sets up his date is she helps them remember, light, you know, owns this. This was birthday. I center some flowers, but is so she's always doing his petty Burke, whatever. But then he starts to see on a different lightning falls in love. What do we call the movie. Ready. I know my Bill I know might be a little risky for movie title in theater, but I'm gonna call it. Fuck if I now. That's a great title that you could ever use. Yeah, you can even use the see this thing. On. You're not gonna top it the the other. The other one I got was like, forgotten love, but out of love. Yeah, it would be something like that. It would be something and chicks lineup for it. And it always has that music. Than an eater. There would be the one scene where somebody's like, like the voice are going to be like until one day. And then it would do like a far away shot that rapidly zooms in on Ryan Reynolds face and the music stops. And he goes, I forgot how to have sex. Yeah. And then like the wacky music kicks in and it's just a lot of quick scenes of him like fumbling around, like trying to have sex with girls and then being like, what are you doing? I'm like, no, music kicks in the music from what's that Britain, comedy of hail. Yeah. Yeah. Yacky sack Berna ramp. I love that. Music is so good. It's Airola. Let's. Why we write this down. This is a great movie. So it's like it's m. like trying to be smooth taking off his pants, and he likes trips and falls over and hits a lamp. And it's just like every time he tries have sex, it goes badly. And even when he's doing it like like finally, like he gets it in and he just comes like super fast, like put, oh, and they're like. Yeah. And then it's or it's him like like trying to get them to position and he like, can't like figure it out or get it in or something, and they're just, they're just like, just a frustrated look on their face. Are you done yet? And he just he doesn't know what to do. He's broken without this ability. Keeps sticking in the wrong. Hold any. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. No, there is a lot of that. Like, no. What do stop. Yeah, no, I like it. Yeah, we got it. So so good. I was serious to degree would she says, what? If I forget how to have sex? And just like, 'cause you're being stupid again, don't be so. This is dumber them eat. My job might hear me on your patriots. It's one if I would if I forget how to have sex after being single for a month, what if I forget how to be at a fallen live. Yeah, shut up. So I was like, wait what a great concept for movie. I didn't say anything else that was. I was at, I wrote it below mation point. The like I was being, I thought we'd laugh about it and talk about that so that I didn't have to have like this sexual conversation that I know she was trying to go. I, here's the thing I know her and she'd want to talk about. She'd want me to reassure her that like the last time we had sex, it was so great and you could never forget. You could never be bad like that kind of thing. She definitely fucking great. Yes. She definitely figured she definitely say history of fishing for that stuff, and it would be that and then it would turn into well, maybe next time you're in town, you should come by just to make sure you know, I don't forget, you know, like you could make sure. Still good at it. It would turn into that and I didn't want to go down that route, not interested. So so I wrote my thing. I man what a great concept for a movie that would be, and she writes back and again, this is all through Snapchat, so I don't have the messages, but she writes back and it's something that the degree of. Why the fucker you being such an ass. I did write anything. I was like, I was really taken that was gonna upset her and she wrote something else along the same lines. I forget what it was and I wrote back so that was I was in, are you gonna come at me? So I wrote back LOL settled down. No, you go, you, you're, you're very carefully chosen words settled in because I knew it would upset her. She was like, you should have been settled down donkey. No, it wasn't. I wasn't. Here's the thing because in my in my defense when you read them like I'm not actually saying that you called me names and all I did was tell you to call them. That's it. But I told you to come down new, admit him set, but you can't prove that maybe maybe her future employers Bill to tell teller when they find this audio. So they'll be like, you know, we were looking into you in this one guy was saying not so nice things. But so then she just she courses blows up. She's like, she's like, you know what like buck you like, I don't know why. Like I like just like you're, you're being such an asshole. And you tell me that I need to calm down and it's like I really hadn't done anything. I was like, I really just made one joke and then told you to calm down. He started like getting mad at me. She's like, she's like, you're so fucking manipulative. And I was like, all this Donald, you can say. You can say that that's the first thing. Manipulator you manipulate everything. No, you're the master manipulator women, y'all manipulate everything. That's the thing she was trying to manipulate the conversation into being something sexual. She was trying to wrote me into having a fucking dirty sexual conversation and talk about her fucking because I didn't go for said, I said, nothing. Away from how how is the second. Here's a thing. Get the details. I wanted to get ready. I wanted. I thought this would have been great for memory lane, but it's clearly never going to happen. And I don't know that she's not. Especially not in the timeframe we have. I, I don't know if ever covered this on the show any forty three minutes up. It's time to go all. It was. It was good. It was fine. It was good. But I believe that part of why it was so good at the time because it was very forbidden. Lisa, my sister, yes. Fucking somebody says, no, it was. It was a it was somebody stepsister. Oh, even better. Who is my then girlfriend yet. I, yeah. That's are gonna go for Amphion consistent yet. It's a whole long story, but I argue, I story is very short. You fucking her an fucking sister how it came about and how I feel like it wasn't totally my fault. Because that completely Cecil, she's yeah, we'll get none of. It's the girlfriends poll. Instill sledding sleds us. Let's she, she knew of things I was doing and was okay with it happening. Right. Fucking girls are just fucking. She knew I was doing messing around with her stepsister way like her like her stepsister might me the girlfriend and her stepsister role in a hot tub. One time, and I started joking about how I was going to hit the stepsister on her forehead with my dick like it was, you know. It was a late night. We're joking around and my girlfriend was like encouraging. It was like, yeah, you should. Like I did. So I took a dig out and smacked her steps. Digital. No, absolutely. Ridiculous. When you say that allowed. Toby. How good is sees. This is like this is like a porkies type shape ever seen pork us. Yeah. This is like should have is important is where you take you take you dig at you slap the steps as top of the head. She sees data dick is now she asked all right, like one time. So me and the girlfriend. We lived together for a brief period of time, right? And step stepsister wanted to come stay with us one night and my girlfriend was like, I don't care, but you got, you got to convince you got to convince Danny that it's okay. So I tell my girlfriend, I said, you tell her she can come stay with us if she does our dishes topless. And my girlfriend relay the message and the stepsister agreed to it. So. There were things going on that we're just bury on the servicemen. Girlfriend was okay with you. If you woulda tired a child's fucking or is looking lever happen, she will try to play like, oh, I never knew. Yeah, I I, here's the thing during the time we were together. She didn't know that we. There's no concrete. I mean, maybe she guest or assumed, but everybody is far as I know. She never actually knew that we're the, we'd had sex. It wasn't like we were always having sex, but it'd happened a couple times during this. So how did the first time you had sex happened might? Was it like row house together? The Grover wasn't air, you say, oh, let's fuck. Did you initiate initiate people? I realizing the deeper we get into this. There is nothing that redeems. How big a piece of shit I sound and you mugs speech. Was hoping he was gonna realize that shit. Here's a legit somebody every. Aim to live with you, you forced her into performing topless in front of you so that you could see you pull your dick out Kamate her fucking touch her body's way. Totally unwanted sexually. Yeah. Are Harvey Weinstein? Yeah. Definitely did that ended up having sex with her? Probably because she lived with you. She needs to fuck to have some place to layer, here's here's what I need the disclaimer. This is young, Danny. This was a long time ago. This young Danny is just view now though with kids in a wife, the same, you'll see, I'm I, I joke, but I wouldn't do anything. So I I, we talked about on the planning show like I could cause we're talking about who's going to sleep in what beds as none. No, you wouldn't do this now because like I say, you have a wife and the kids, right? If you had? No, I think they'll be doing this. I can't say that's not true, but that's the point that's, that's the point. That's why I say in you are the same? No, we're not though because I have a wife and kids I've changed. Oh, that's what it is. Because genes now fucking people. I'm a different people on different personality. I have a show. So yeah, of course. So. All right. The first time it happened. Was said, the stepsister, and which is the girl that I, you know, got into it with on Snapchat. She came over. She used to come over a lot and stay with us at our -partment. But she'd came over one time and we had already done some other things, but we'd never had sex and. We'll things girlfriend about it. I think she knew some things. I don't think she knew everything. Put this say so KOMO she such you off. That's what she did. I think that it happened. I mean, I know it had happened, but I think it'd happened before we had sex. I want to say yes, that like something like that happen and the girlfriend definitely didn't know that it happened, but she knew there was like. No. Okay. G. Here's the thing. I am a, I'm a pleaser, you know what I'm saying? I'm giver. If I, if I care about you only kid, if not, then you just a, I don't give. Yeah. Like if I were if I were to hook up with a random girl now. A more about, like, yeah, you can go down on me and we can have sex. But outside of that, I'm not putting him like major effort. Does that make sense? No, yeah. I just my is my thing like, I don't know if I don't actually care about you and I'm not an. I don't think this has any potential like there's any room for relationship ever. I'm I'm more about me getting off and I'm not as concerned, like I mean, I'm still fucking to enjoy, but I'm not as concerned about it. But if we're together, I want you to be happy to and then I will. I will do what it takes. So. So this girl came over one time. I don't know what led up to it and that particular night I do know that. So we my girlfriend, I, we stayed in a, we lived in a one bedroom apartment. So there was so annoying the bedroom, there was a living room and then there was a kitchen that connected to it and it had one of those counters or like if you were in the kitchen standing at the sink, it had like the open, you know, counter window where you like, you know, huge open counter, like in the city, a big open space in the walls because he's straight over the over the sink into the in the living room like that. Yeah, we have one of those department to me and the stepsister. Had sex on the kitchen floor while my girlfriend's asleep on the couch. That that sounds like a huge. Yeah, no, it was. I'm no, I'm I understand that. I'm. So how did that have you get from. We missed around a couple times. Just go ahead and fucking while your girlfriend sleep. I think it is built to that point and it was just say, let's fucking, let's let's don't think we said it. Just we just we were probably fooling around that night and then it just just nobody stopped that time. We just going. A piece of shit. Yeah. Yeah. No young me is not a good person. You know what I feel like we need to do a segment of the segments recall, Danny Richardson is trash? No. 'cause I. 'cause I just. Share, but real life, daddy, riches. It is dry. And you have to use past tense. Danny Richardson was trash. Okay. Zach more, I get it and I take me from the age of ood fifteen through 'cause I've won when I hit fifteen. When I really started like being a piece of shit towards like what I would do to girls and stuff through. I don't know mid to late twenties. Whenever whenever I got with my wife was a long time, it will. Yeah, neuro was. I mean, I'm saying there's a, there's a good decade worth of just piece of shit stories. Absolutely. And this crazy, you waited five years for the get to the point where we realize Dany Richardson is track. I thought we all knew that. But it's never been any full early like down in accepted. Like, you know, it's kind of like it's kind of like one of those like secrets in like cartoons or associate like you always assume low. Maybe this is this guy, this guy, then you finally realize, oh perfect example, John snow, right in spoiler for anybody who has seen last season in terms. It was always speculated a John snuggle was like a target area, right? He wasn't like a bastard for stark that he was like Liana Starks son in officially last year. It was confirmed that he was Liana stark son or any to fishery officially confirmed that the start had a regard getting his baby. That's exactly what this was like. We assumed it anyways, trash. It never was ex- actually really set out on the show. This is the John snow moment. I feel like I'm going to now. Now. The episode title, any rich. Danny registered. This was trash. I'm a good personality. Different, very different person. I have a show. Now I'm telling you. Yeah, there's a lot of stories that I look back and I'm just like. I mean, sometimes it's hard because I look and I go, we'll my actions were shit, but. The girls that went along with stuff. Mike will then girls willingly went along with stuff than they're, they're just as then it's like, what am I not trash? Or they trashed to like. When I worked at the bull their trash too, but sometimes the trash person actually convinced good people to be trash. So it could be that too. When I worked at the bowling alley, I was a manager there. Right? And like people would like girls usually because we had a bar there. So like a bartender, we'd be working at night and it would be slow bartender at common. Ask me if it was okay if they closed early because you know probably they met some guy in there and they wanna get out. In like more than once it would be like, what's in it for me. And they'd like flashing some titties or something. And then I'd be like, all right, yeah. Go ahead and go close up. Like Meghan. And I'm like, me being that way is kinda shitty, but then they did it. Nobody ever got a fended by or bothered, but they did him. But also I mean, yeah, but also yet understand that if you dealing with weak minded people, they pretty much do whatever your I. So we used to have these shirts shorts that were made up for the bullying and they would for the employees. They're just like regular shirts and the load like t shirts near the logo on it. And this one girl wanted to get some extra shirts like I don't just fucking like to have to wear, and I told her I'd get her an extra shirt out of the office, but she'd have to, you know. You know it was like, but you have to change into it in front of me. Yeah, trash. But I would always say like joking around and then she bit. She was like, all right, I don't care and they do it. So am I is bad or they, or is it not? Is it? Is it not bad then because they clearly row k within NAS, still bad? It's horrible. Excellent. Is it. Because they just said, no. Get, but it's kind of good same situation number. Oh, they could just say. He said, no, no, no, no. They couldn't have the Bill Cosby's a bad example because they were unconscious. You going. The heart. The Harvey Weinstein's a much better comparison hardwired thing is like if you if they feel pressured, but I never, I never came to those. Like I'll give you a raise if you do this or if you wanna if you wanna get promoted, you know what you've gotta do like it was always dump stuff. Since doesn't matter. You still like in a position power light. There's still this. It's even see. So you know, I'm a big fan of his always Philadelphia night. There's this whole steak like a whole funny like bit go back years and years where one of the guys on the show named Dennis he an forces of. He doesn't flee rate key. I loved it will be ongoing. Jokes is rape is one of the the implication, right? The implication is that if you're out at sea on a boat or if you're in his room at a specific point night, it's implied that you will be okay to have sex. If not, sometimes some bad things can happen. He's actually saying bad things is gonna happen to you, but it's the implication is. So that's how he courses women in the having. Sex is actually funny because his his twin sister does the same thing is he says, she doesn't call the implication. I think I forget what she called it, but that's the point. That's what your turn to your is to implication. Oh, if you wanna come to this office shirt change fund, but billion say, I didn't say now, I didn't say with your weird creepy voice. So. That's just how that's how you say. Danny was still implication? Yeah. Watch steel asked me if you get an extra. Gagging, extra shirt. Yeah, yeah, I could probably get you on, but I mean, you know, you're gonna have to change him in front of me. Yeah, still. Yeah. I did use my powers for good once there was this kid there. He was like, seventeen. And he had actually mentioned to me something about, like, you know, like he was just was like, I don't get how you like get girls elect show you their tips and stuff. And I was like, I was like, you know, you gotta read them and some some girls of you just you can just ask. And so we go into the the. Into the bar area and there's no, like it's like they're just openings. There's nobody in there and there's this bartender name was Annabel dark-haired Khanna, Goth, look tour, big titties and and I and I knew her that she was not shy with that stuff. And we walk in and I was like, Annabel. David wants me to ask you if he can see your tits. She was like for real forget David one-season pits, and she buzzard hits out nice. David thought I was the greatest thing ever 'cause he did. He didn't understand that. That's a thing that could just happen. But. I mean, you know, there's. Deebo. It's a superpower sometimes you just gotta read people. What did Mario Sindhu us? Then Mario send something. Implication the, you know, Mario, I gotta read that message. Mario wrote. This is after last week's. He said, listen to the episode this week. I don't know how Danny gets these women to do whatever he wants to do. But my dude is the man when he says, Danny's kind of like will Ferrell in that movie. The other guys. I haven't seen that movie. Mario nobody has, but and I said, I'm sure it helps because he's referring to the McDonald's that sent me a picture last week and what you see in the screen shots you, you're my witness. I didn't ask for that. I did not request it. I did not indicate. I wanted anything. Nothing. I'll see. Just willingly gave it. I was being a dick and she wanted to send me something now that wasn't the inflammation that was just a whole being up. Yeah, but I'm saying like, that's what Mario was talking. I was referencing those saying, I don't know. He gets girls, do whatever. And I'm like, I didn't do anything in that one. Brock Turner's is white privilege now that it's I said, I'm sure it helps. That she has a low self esteem, and I said, and let the record show. I did not ask her to do anything, which I stay on. I didn't. You're supposed to be sending actual real picture of her. What do you, what kind of picture do you want any face. Remind me after the show, how about that? I'll dig up something and. I'll see what I can do all a put something in there. I either sent to euro put chat because terriers been asking to see too. Was hollow of that was yeah, deals correcting. He wrote in our council chat that I'm trash and I had a career, but. But it doesn't sound as good. Danny registered was spread. It sells better. Make it work than get creative. These riches it is trans, sounds good. I have one thing I want to get to before we get out of here. Okay. Yeah. Well, it's a movie review. I watched a movie last week and we didn't get tense talk about yet. Okay. So. It's a, it's October. And so a couple of weeks ago took the kids to this little like pumpkin farm place that we go to every year and they got, you know, little petting zoos and pony rides, and tractor rides, and all this stuff, you know, and do you do you recall what I buy there every year fudge the ad. It got another. No, this this is on the way too much about this shelf when I I know every year. Your shit that you do. That's a fucking. Yeah. Yeah, you don't. My fudge cycle smoking. Ridiculous. I know you're fudge cycle. It's three times a day, so I go and I, I fi, I buy me by myself. My pound of fudge that I get every year and it's quarter pound each like different like flavors like that. I sit down a week ago. Breakout, one of the squares. It's this chocolate peanut butter fudge. And I make. Well, they, I mean, I get what they had last night. I had cookies extra finger or was it year all the butterfinger one this year to always buy the butterfinger one. Yeah. Last night I had cookies and cream fudge. I'm trying to think of the other one. Oh, I think I got some like marshmallow one or something like that. Oh, I think it's a rocky road fudge. Oh, can you freeze that and bring it? Yeah. Yeah, I'll bring my tiny square fudge and an a month from now and share it with and get out of here. Just one little square bass, old fudge. Easy freezer, it'll it will last. It's not gonna be frozen when I'm driving to LA for six hours, push them ice. By dry eyes. Transport it like a fucking Oregon. So so I sit down, I got my peanut butter chocolate fudge, make me big old Cup of hot chocolate and sit down to enjoy an and I had to figure out what am I going to watch on Netflix? Because I I, when I go to turn on Netflix, it'd be like me. I spend forever spend thirty minutes flipping through what is on Netflix, and sometimes not actually up watching anything. And so I was like, I'd sat down with the intention of. Are longtime ago. My wife and I started watching orange is the new black, and we watched like one season and then we stopped and I was kinda thinking, I want to everybody, you know, people like that show. I want to give it another shot. Maybe I'll watch an episode or two and see if I'm into it I'll year. 'cause the girlfriend semi shows. Right? Yes. She shows her titties in the first episode yet medical back in Washington. There's a shower scene of her and another girl titties out kissing in the shower. It's amazing. I've gone back and watch that scene. The rest of the show. I don't care about. Thanks, but so I sit down with thinking of, I'm going to turn books and I'm just gonna watch that show rather than flip through. But as soon as I turn on, it goes right to the section of like recently added. Let me see. Let me see what's nude and Netflix, if there's anything I want to watch deebo they added the lake house. Oh my God. Then you finally actor fide. That's how you know the shows comes on, right. That is you finally delake. They could've waited another month or two, and it would have been too late, but they add it on the home stretch Stevo and I went will. Fare we go, is this the one where the Nick is like different times? Yes. So that's Kiana Reeves and Sandra Bullock and they, he, he lives two years in the past, and they put letters in this mailbox and then the letters appear instantly to the other person and their timeline. And so I always wanted to see this movie because the concept to me was fascinating. I was like, how do you explain this? How to want to see how the characters except this, like because I spend the whole movie just being like, who's fucking with me. I don't get this. I need to. I need explanation of like how it's happening, why it's happening, like you know where it goes from there. How do you prove like, no, I'm really from the future or whatever was like as fascinated by the concept I had to see it finally got to sit down and see it deebo after five years of talking on the leg house. I can finally say. Yeah. Wasn't that impressed by it. All right, so so they sit down. I like the first time it happens. He like goes to like. Oh, she writes a letter and it goes to his mailbox and she's like. Because she's moving out of the house in the future time, and she's moving out and she's thinking she's leaving a letter for the future residents like the next person move and be like, oh, if you get any my mail, can you forward it to this? He receives it two years in the past, and he's like. Why? You know, I don't know what you're talking about. I just moved in here and she's like, you couldn't have. I just moved out yesterday and then she's like an you. You messed up on the day to your letter. It's two thousand six. And he's intially as like, it's two thousand four. That's my Kiana and DO. I'd swear to you like right away. She's just like, oh my God is this really happening like they just boom. They just accept it. They're in different time zones like time dimensions, like they just fucking accept it. And they start being like, how is this really happening? You know what's going on, what are what are things like, and and it's just bright there. Nobody's freaked out. Nobody's fucking confused. They're not doing shit approve it. There's not like, what are we going to do? Like they're just like, yeah, I guess you're in the future, and I'm in two thousand four. I was so mad as why would they just accept it? So Sandra, Bullock takes these letters because they start to fall for each other during the letters. She takes his letters and she shares with her mom, and she's like, here, read these in her. Mom read them and she's like an mom's like she, he sounds like a nice boy and and central characters like, but did you notice the date on the letters? And she goes. Oh, the time thing. What's the big deal? Yeah, her mom just accepted that. She's fucking writing love letters to a guy that's in the past that she's never met, and it's just like happens long as you're happy stupid. I can't. I could not get behind this movie deal could not. I. I ruined makes us at the fucking mailbox was a time machine. It doesn't because and they and the movie never explains it. Nobody ever gives like, you know, like. Bright, the lotto numbers down, put it in the mailbox. Parts of the letters were there like, I don't even know what you look like. And they start like describing each other like themselves to each other and at no point. Does anybody submit a picture with their letter. It's it's the DO if this movie took place in the seventies, I guess I get it or the fifties. Fucking two thousand four hundred thousand six. Everybody had pictures. You could take one instantly. I could take a picture of me holding up the letter. You just sent me an like a newspaper that says that David or whatever, and then send it to you. Like most took him like a day to go get it developed or something because maybe you know, I don't know, like to print out or something but the, but once they try to send pictures to each other, it has to be guess it. So let me ask you this. Sure. If you took Sandra Bullock and canneries out the movie. And replace them. With our, they make flying Brown. Would you accept? No. No? Why would they be sending love letters to each. Now, I mean their religion. To I in then again, would if I kept Kiana reason, Sandra Bullock right. Yeah, but instead of a mailbox with Laurie would know, instead of a mailbox time, traveling letters, Kiana, Reeves, forgets how to fuck. This is. Just the movie. Danny. Oh, she has to like write letters to explain to them. Like when I meet you do six. This is how I want you to fuck me. And so he gets two years to just practice. And he spends the next two years is learning how to buck. And then when he meets her into hundred sixties, the greatest lover. I'd want equal work. It's that or it can work Sandra Bullock. I mean she's work. It's that a report them on a bus that will blow up if it goes below fifty, five miles per hour. If they don't fuck if you're not fucking on this bus by the way, speed, great movie speed isn't moving. I don't think it's a stupid premise. I mean, you put you put the bomb on the bus so that you could rob the fucking banks. Is that what he's doing. I don't think so. He was Robin the fucking banks. I think you need to go back and watch speed. I feel like the old nigga was robbing banks. No, you need to go back and watch speed, didn't he robs. Yeah, he did any. You think using while the buses driving around? He's out robbing banks. He robbed he was robbing one bang. It was all banks, but it was like one major thing because he didn't like his pension or some shit. That's that's at the very beginning of the movie. Yeah, but he was robbing a bunch of them. So he he wanted, he put the the bomb on a bus because he knew it would take all of the police away from like the Bank, and they will not be worried about Bank robbery at any goes able to get away with now. I'm sure that didn't happen. I think you need to watch speed again. I feel like that's what the. All that. Dave, Dave out of you realize all I look, I hung up on you. I was trying to add somebody of the call and I just started calling Liz again. Oh, you know, who see minus? No, let's see. Craig should we had Craik. Craig. My no, I try to flee will he doesn't know eight. The ninety like United Zev it for like two thousand to try to Terry. Oh. Who's doing land catering, power, me, none of them are. Terrance, got power. Now he's been on the chat. Get innovator. He got a generator. That's all you need. He can't waste his generated so he can get on a chat didn't hold on. Let's. Let's look up Denny's. Let's it. As a Denny's on elk grove boulevard, near me. Got it. Do you remember how to call? Why don't I know how to call people. Oh, oh. Speaking of food in while you were talking about your foot me and my baby mama days something today. Did you eat fudge? No, we had a great day Tennessee. One I told you that Georgia loss. Day Saturday, but, oh, Craig is because he just ready. Tell them to get on Skype. So his her, her boss, her job makes this amazing. Sweet potato bundt cake, right. In sounds weird. It's a bundt cake, but they like take mashed potato mix it in the better. So it's like a sweet potato flavor. This ISIS on it in this cake is fucking. Know how to make this. We've been like trying to figure it out. We just say, this is just going making cakes on. Yeah, second to art. Sorry. Sorry, ma'am. I, I need you to help me settle a bit. Is there anybody seen the movie speed? I'm sorry? Have you ever seen the movie speed. Yes, it is just about, right. So my friend and I are arguing, we just need somebody that would answer the phone. He thinks that the point of the movie is he says, when the guy is set, has the bomb on the bus that he's doing that to distract the cop. So he can go around and rob banks. And I'm saying that never happens in the movie. On the? No, he's not out robbing banks. No. All right. Oh, that's a really good movie by the way, that's I think what we were talking about because I, I watched the lake house for the first time recently and it's got kiono and and Sandra Bullock in it. And it turned out not to be a very good movie. And I was like, you know, would make it better if there was a bus with a bomb on it and speeds a great movie. Then we start arguing about the plot of the movie. Okay. So did I settle your argument? You did and you're the best. Thank you very much. You're welcome. You too. All right. Do she says that never happened by the way. I win. I win that we could have just fucking looked like the plot speed on Wikipedia. They'll be called the girl at Denny's Denny's. She knows. Doesn't know. He's not out robbing banks while that's happening. You're crazy. It's out was less. I'm you saw the movie speed. The news was the last time you saw the movie speed too. Even longer speeds. It was the worst lead to is so shitty. Yeah, you can't. You don't wanna watch it. No, no. And it was like, oh, she's a relationship with another cop, and then it's fucking cruise, ship care speed. The cruise. Got it done. Anything could have been a plane fucking train. I don't know. A semi truck something, but they did. It will be great. They did it on a cruise ship, you know, eat on the crane is called in what's that Money Train. They already did. It, isn't that the, I think you can see Jennifer Lopez nipples in that movie. You can't and his cranes. Yeah, it's weird because it was like before she was anybody. Yeah. All right. Somebody get on Skype. What are they doing. Greg's he's basically is guys mad that his plans guy stopped for he straps bomb on a bus, the bus. Again, we've seen it Craig foot. That deal will one of FINA, hey, did you know that we're in has only one Skype now. Yeah. Who's talking about the other day? Oh, yeah, you were there. Sometimes I forget. Let's try. I'm gonna add Craig, Brandon? Are you there. Brandon. Yes. Have you seen the movie speed. Yes, deebo tell him your theory. Didn't didn't. He on speed. I can't remember exactly, but. Put a bomb on the bus, so he could try to help get rob a Bank. No one of us. It was like. Drop money off at a trash can or something like that in a briefcase? Yeah. Yeah, but he's trying to get paid. That's what was he demand? He demands a ransom from them. Yeah, he's trying to do anything with a Bank. Your thinking point break, I think point Britain, thinking of thinking of bad boys. Because that's not really in bad boys either. Eight women, they. Deebo saying he, he was doing the bomb on the bus to distract all the cop so that they'd be busy and he could go around robbing banks. And miss it. You would appreciate brain I called Denny's and and the hostess at Denny's answered and was willing to talk, does about speed and confirm that that depot's crazy. Oh, great. You did your own phone rodeo one second. Yeah. Celia. Have you seen the movie speed. In speed, do they put the bomb on the bus so that they could go around robbing banks? Main Bagai. Lot. Execute the beginning. That's why he did it though. Isn't it what it was at the beginning. He did some Caraba bait. Or money. That was interesting. He, he wasn't. He. Something working works and like he was discredited. So he wanted to pay that. Ping. I think you're you're more right? Yeah. My boss said, no, that they weren't trying to rob break banks ahead to do with him being discredited from his job. And so like, yeah, I distinctly remember him having to pick up a briefcase at like a track here and they, they have all the is on it, like waiting for him to come, pick up the money, but then he like he got it from under it was that's what it was. It was awesome. Yeah, I remember. Brandin have you ever seen the movie the lake house. No, I have not seen the lake house house. Nobody seemed like I've seen the lake house. It's on Netflix, everybody go watch it Craig without a shirt. Craig high diva was convinced that the bad guy in speed only puts the bomb on the bus so that he can distract all the cops and then go out and rob banks? No, no. The other way around. He was mad that they stopped him from doing his master plan beforehand, but it had nothing was out robbing banks while they were like trying to work out the thing on the bus. You know, I wouldn't surprise me but that, no, but then another thing in the movie, it's not soon. Could have happened. It didn't a sound better. Think about this, that speed would fucking work. Right? I know all you guys with the bomb on a bus and go out and rob. I like that idea to use it as a decoy new, go out and commit crimes, knowing that all the cops are busy with this other thing. I like police station really like on one bus. There was a lot of this is the beginning of bed was distracted. The straighten the caused by Kuna fate cop arrive the police station. It's not the police station on the buzz. But. They come to the bus thing. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, it would be good idea. Do you guys know that Asian actors don't exist. No. Why do you say. In movies and TV shows. Fucking kill cuts. Do what is the steel fucking Craig's material on podcast week? Yes, creek. About either. I know I heard your fantasy advice creek. There's no proof. No, no. Is this the show? This is the show you could tell how low we are on topics for speed ever. So to seventy. Really. Yeah, yeah. Let's go with that. It's to sixty five, isn't it? No stop. Don't do that to me Craig. Don't you put that on me? Don't you go backwards. To seventy. We all can't just quit on a random numbered show for no reason. What I'm looking at the feet. It's actually only episode. This is two point, seven, I think. Still got a law about the to. No, no, that's the fantasy show. The new than who that's the greatest title to any podcast ever not. Who. All right. Same everything they wanna covers for. We get out of here. This is the end. Yeah, Craig with this is the end was good. I liked that they all play themselves was a little metaphor me. Did you like the backstreet boys? Cameo a loved back. She put it. I'm not gonna lie. I loved about Kenny one of the best things ever seen. Yeah. Yeah, they do what's up brand about Craig. Out of the people in the chat, you have to pick three to survive zombie apocalypse. Do you pick. It's, it's like you're building your team like three bless you. Yeah, you a group of people to hang out with over the weekend. This is like you're trying. Don't try to talk him out of me. All. Brandon's like you're clearly not taking this seriously. It's not who you enjoy being with. Thinking chance for survival. The most Brandon. Branding gets real upset when he's not the first person people name. Those a little bit. It was a little hurtful craze, didn't realize. I thought it was just a hang out for the weekend. I was gonna pick Ghanian deebo and then someone else probably everybody picks Taty. Okay. If I was to survive, I probably pick c. minus k.. Brandin. Yeah, and smart. That's not a bad week. Deebo DVD. The most important part to it. Okay. But after you peak, the other people, you don't pick are guaranteed to die like that they lived. Question though. It would be Brandon. Deebo. And Danny. Yeah. You're just saying, who do you like the most now. He's only is it not only is it that it makes it a little harder because it's like who you want survive with end like who. You like, here's my things I think seem minus and Danny are pretty close on helping us evolve. But I think see minus is more likely to be able to climb trees and to get to hard to reach spots and wait more outdoorsy. Yes, but I think Danny maybe has a little more like being able to kind of like come up with plans. I think Danny, it'd be a little better and then Brandon depot are there because I feel like people aren't going to fuck with us. If the three of us are there. So we're gonna have to race. So if Danny conservative, I'm gonna bring see, but if any can't survive. I'm gonna bring Danny because I think it's close enough that even though I wouldn't wanna see seed, I I'm, you know, I'm not gonna Louis down. Yeah, you're not gonna slow as you're and I don't want you to die because I'm assuming to seventy five hasn't come out yet. Yeah. This one, it feels like it never will. So, but yeah, that's actually Tuffah. But I've thought about that a lot about, I always thought about. I always think about the end of the world, killing. Whenever I hear people say, oh, I hope I'm at the spot where blows up. You know, I hope I die Reddaway. Fuck that. I want to like if I can be the last human on earth had love that aling, but I wouldn't mind sometime early in the like, you know, actor may wanna fuck somebody in then I can. I'll be happy. Whenever I think at the end of the world though, I don't think Canada's a part of that. I feel like you guys still be safe. Well, it is kind of the weird thing with like Walking Dead is I need to know if the shifts going on and other countries or it just get isolated. They don't know yet started in Mexico and spread to US, but ended it at Canada. See, maybe Europe's. Okay. But if you ask, fucked, Canada's also going to be fucked. Yeah, there's just somebody stay at the bar like you can't come in your. I like dead top starting Mexico. I liked it. Bring like that. Brandon's Canadian border guard is also Mexican. Eight homes. You can't come in your. In here, is that what is that theories at the Walking Dead stuff happened in Mexico with made that, oh, yeah. I thought you were going off of the fear the Walking Dead because in beer, the Walking Dead, they they go down to Mexico for a bit. I think I don't. I don't watch the show, but I catch bits of how do we make still hour and a half every fucking we no way before before we wrap it up. If it is in Mexico. Trump's walls selling so stupid now, is it? Yeah. Maybe we ought to build that wall. Yeah. I mean, maybe he's predicting ambi- populous. I'm sure there's a part of him that is. I don't doubt that. Did you guys. What the space Rangers or something. I'm sure they're gonna have zombie apocalypse police or some. Yeah, we settled at Craig. We settled the, hey, do you know what's really worse than welcome Etta. What's that? What's that is the end of this book. And so you could catch us on Twitter to underscore big debates. Danny up rather train, hit us up at black friends show on Twitter, Facebook at my black friend, you hit us up at g. man, my black friend show Jimoh dot com. Page on dot com. Slash mob black friend. You guys aren't giving money. We don't give a fuck anymore. Trip is happening episode to seventy. This is the end. If you didn't hear all that you were listening to the whole fucking show by and I'm Craig Canada. Of Canada. You can't spell Canada. He can't follow me check out into the wild and your friend Vernon car joining cue the music. Be. Good. Two.

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412 From Future Board to Reality; Sarah Centrella

Mindfulness Mode

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412 From Future Board to Reality; Sarah Centrella

"Mindfulness mode four hundred twelve getting their action. I used to get I'm not getting Runar whole day. Like I used to. Hey, welcome to another episode of mindfulness mode. I'm Bruce great to have you here. My guest today is going to be a guest speaker at an event I'm going to be attending in reading Pennsylvania in may. And the event is called the growth now movement live event, and Justin shank is hosting it. You'll recognize Justin's name because he was a guest on my show episode to ninety three and it's going to be an exciting event. If you want to check it out, it's well like I said growth now movement live, so it's g and am live dot com. Check out the website. And it'd be great to see you there. Hundreds of guests of recommended books the mindfulness mode podcast and I've put. All together, the twelve most recommended books into a short fourteen page e book that's free for you. It's called twelve must read mindfulness books. Any one of these books can definitely change your life. Just like they have for my featured guests download this great free resource at mindfulness mode dot com slash top twelve books. So sit back relax and enjoy today's episode with Sarah, sin Trela. Mindful tribe. We have a lot to talk about today. I have the awesome Cirrus and trello with me today. Hey, Sarah, are you in mindfulness mode? I am trying to be in my emptiness mode. What separates? What's your audience? It's great to have a chance to talk to you. And to meet you it feels like I'm meeting you in person, even though it's only over zoom, but we will meet in. Yeah. Yeah. Lutely, we will meet in person. But I want to ask you first. What does mindfulness mean to you? Sarah, good question. To me that it's one of those words that is can be such a catch all that. If you don't cause and identify it personally, it won't mean anything at all it will just become one of those words that is you know, clothing around. And when I kind of started out in my journey. I did not know how to be mindful. I did not know how to recognize what I was thinking in kind of what was going on in my brain. And so that is really what it means to me at this plan. My life is to daily in hourly in minutely as much as I can check myself in just be like, wait Ha's what making about right now is good for me a bad for me. And then that really helped me you live in the moment. Again, not in a cliche way. But in actual way, because if we're not for just letting brain do whatever it wants to do then we really have no control of anything in so mindfulness me as a daily literally daily practice a lot. A lot of tools that I use to check it. And that's how I guide my life. It's how I it's the headlights on my car. You will the headlights on your car love that. Wow. Well, we met through Justin shank, and Justin is an awesome podcast her and he has a podcast called the growth now movement. And he's having a live event called growth now movement live and use era are going to be one of the fabulous. Speakers can't wait. And I really love Justin. We've connected a couple of months ago when I was on his show, and he came to my future board workshop that I had in Pennsylvania when Jimmy national tour this fall, and so I'm very excited, Hugh beyond his stage is inaugural event. So it's gonna be a great amount. And I'm excited because I'm going to be there and mindful tribe. You can check it out g and m standing for growth now movement GM. Live dot com. That's where you'll find the information and takes place in reading, Pennsylvania. And we'll get to meet in Bursa. Absolutely. Will. That's great. I wanna share Sarah bit about you with with my listeners. Sarasin Trela is known as the premier vision board expert and her follow up book. Now, she had a first book, which is wildly successful. She sold out all copies of it. And it's called hustle believe receive and man, I look at the the reviews, and it's just raving raving reviews about hustle believe in receive and your new book is called future boards. How to make a vision board to manifest exactly the life you want and it's coming out soon. So yeah, that's going to be exciting. But you're a master life coach worked with professional athletes in the NBA, the NFL and thousands of people from around the world helping. Ng people to manifest their dreams and Sarah regularly lead workshops for clients such as Pinterest Nike BMW's, Xerox. Quaker Oats thrive global. Wow. So many different organizations, and you've been featured by the Wall Street Journal, ABC news, New York Times. Good Morning, America. Wow. Now, I get a chance to feature you and this is such an honor. But Sarah, I'm just wanting to go back. Go back to before all of these things happen. What was happening in your life? Did you have some major pain points that you're struggling with that were just really a challenge for you? And maybe some elements of mindfulness helped get you through that. Yes. So that's a great question. My journey actually started majority that got me here. I would say started in two thousand seven with what I like to call an earthquake moment. Where feels like literally the earth is taken out from underneath you in everything that, you know, and have built and have worked your life towards just flat lines disappears. And for me that kind of true rock bottom. Devastation moment was when my has been we have been married for eight years together for scene at this point. And we have three kids twins that were a year. My son was five and a half in. We were trying to get through the recession like everybody else is this was what two thousand seven close Moore home and just about bankruptcy in. You know, things were not going great. But the kind of the one thing that I had never really questioned in my life at that point was relationship because I've been with this man since I was sixteen years old kind of all we ever knew. But on just one Dan September. He came home in I wound up signing. Text message on his phone. This was way back in the olden days when nobody tax that alone was shocking for didn't even know he knew at attacks. And it was essentially tax message that changed my life, and it was from his mistress at the time. And it was such a a clear and concise message basically said I can't wait till you're finally free all mine Nomar sharing smiley face. And those three lines just change everything in literally split second. At the time. He was in the shower. I went into a wire in the shower said get the fuck out of the house don't ever come back and filed for divorce like four days later, and it was the end of reaping ever known where every been thought about. So I was never one of those people who had kind of low key backup plan, you know. It just never crossed my mind before that did not in any way, shape or form. So I didn't have any idea of what I would do. This was before. Any social media? You know, it wasn't on any social media. So is literally time in my life, relate only people you knew where people you actually knew like in person. And I had never known anybody ever been through life. Would I ever never never a book of someone who'd been through it or anything? So I feel so naive looking back now. But if we can remember back that far before everything was so it's decibel social you really did feel completely isolated alone. When you're going through something traumatic like that. And to answer your question in a mindfulness way. Think literally the day that he left I just, you know, hit the floor with laid Kharaian to the point where I was like faces sticking to the hard way. I just couldn't move in Fito positional floor in that. When my mind, I'm very much a affixed to earth solve our, you know, like, I if it was something like the hustler in me is like, okay ninety nine ways, you know, like, and so I remember to be on the floor. And that's what my brain was doing. It was like what about this? What about this like how do you get a job? How do you get daycare? How do you get everything you own get the money? I was broke. I didn't have a dollar to my name. I literally the water was on five day notice rent hadn't been paid. So it was just worst-case scenario. In my brain on just being like, okay? Well, I can't do that. Because of that. So every kind of solution. I was putting up there. Just was no way. There was literally no way to make 'em working. The mindfulness came in at this moment where I needed just anything to have onto. And it was just this voice can call it. Whatever we want for me is my interviews of the universe, whatever. But it was just kind of countering the arguments in I think we all have it within us. We just have argued it to death to the point where we don't hear it anymore. But whenever worst with making a really tough decision or are back against the wall to always there. So he's telling us what to do. And for me in that moment. It was just like what if you can. So everything I was saying I can't I can't I can't all it did was back today. Say what if you can't what if what if you can in? So for me kind of started everything on the path that I'm on now because the first time in my life. I had a different voice, you know, rather than the navy. I'd lived in my whole life. It was a Twitter floater, you know, like flooded through. And that was kind of the turning point for me where it was like. Well, what if it could? And then if I could how would I do that? And, you know, just working back from there, and it really gave me the strength needed to get through the first dark point start to build a plan. Wow. You know, I just had to catch my breath. When you told that story, I mean, it just hit me a so dramatic because you never suspected a thing you never and didn't have any idea. How did your children move help you move through that? Or we're the help to get you through that that that's a great question. So my son it was very difficult for him because he had incredibly close relationship with his father. They were so so close, and it was such a dramatic instantaneous thing we never went back to being a family of mount moment on and it became contentious in almost instantaneously. You know, it was very. Close with difficult divorce for sure, but I think even in that those first, you know, few hours, even in the moment that was on the floor. It was my kids that got me through one thousand percent because in everything that I was going through scenarios of of how to get back on my feet. Like, what do I do? It was all because of them. So I truly don't know what would have happened. If I didn't have them. I mean now coached so many so many people thousands of stories sends obviously women have been through exactly what I went through. And I've seen it. Just women, quite frankly, lake irreparably, destroyed them. In that very well could have been me. But I think that survival when you're kit that level of, you know, down nece or blackness, or whatever you wanna call it. You have a mechanism. We all have it where you can't survive. Anything get strength that you didn't even know you had for me. It was definitely my kids. I was like first and foremost known as ever taken my kids. So if that is like bar one dummies native figure out how to take care of them. So that you know, like, I can and I had never been in that position of thought I would have to be. So is it was incredibly terrifying. Daunting to think like there is no plan. Like, I need to provide a road of I need to provide the Blake all of that Seth and that being the ultimate motivator was just like okay now that's a non ago -able. Now. What rate like now how to how do I do that? So without a doubt. And they they continue to be. Everything do them in that is not shades wins percent. Like the fire in me. Are you still working through a level of grief and pain that exists as a result of that happening? So long ago. No, I would say from me was actually if deep deep down. I talk a lot about this. Now, if we have a dream, and I had a very dream when I was younger like when I was, you know, ten twelve fifteen years old, and that dream I always thought that I would be out. Reaching people in some way in my life be singer. You know, whatever. So I always had this very clear picture in my mind lake. The woman would be in what I could potentially become thank and then through the marriage through all those things it really was absolutely lost. And I was definitely had morphed into more of like, okay, Susie homemaker, and whatever, but the dream was still buried deep in inside of me. I think of the year that had led up to kind of everything that was going on there so much tumultuous stuff kind of happening that it had kind of come back where I was like, wow. There's gotta be more to life in this today from this. And so I told clients it's a thousand percent true. Become what you wish for because at a certain point, the universe will say, okay. See, you know, what your heart's desire is a see the life. You wanna live a see who you wanna? Be and I see your current situation in a two eight never gonna meet. It's not going to happen. And I know that if it was up to me, I would have never probably ever made a change, you know. And so that's really why call them earthquake moments. Sometimes the worst possible thing on the surface is the universe or God. Or whatever you wanna call it putting the pieces in play for you to have what you want. And so now, I live a life that I have designed with absolute intention absolute mindfulness absolute from the core of me in I think every single day that I have opportunity to live this life. Not saw them any different. And you know, he is I think he's happy in the life that he's created much better suited to him as well. So literally all things work together. While you're obviously a take action kind of woman. That's for sure and you move forward and you took action, and you wrote a book called fifty one. Well, no, it wasn't called fifty one series. It was called. Hustle even receive. Yeah. And it was fifty one stories of people, and you came up with an eight step method. Can you share with us about that method that you came up with? Yeah. Absolutely Saikal it my each method for her simply receive, and I had been blogging for several years kind of right from the beginning. When all this was going on just because I didn't have anybody to talk to you or kind of process with what I was dealing with. And so I've logged anonymously for a long time to of get it off my chest. And then disturbing out there like who I wanted to be in made a motto which is still true for me to this day, which was a chick on mission to prove that anything is possible for anyone. That's what I started out doing to the stadium still doing. And so I thought how does a person have -oday shis Lee ridiculous dreams that is like nine thousand degrees removed from their current reality. And then what do they do to get there? And so the more I put it out there bad, ugly, the winds in the losses. The more people were like, wait a minute. Like what you're doing is actually working. I I remember you posted your said you would do that. Now, you're doing that. Like, how'd that happen? You know in so in two thousand fifteen I've been getting so many requests for people to be like what was it? How do you do it? What difference kind of basic, lob trash and stuff or whatever? And I just sat down, and I was like all right. What was it? Just remember just like writing on napkins, my kitchen table, and I was like while I dreamed it, and I believe in, you know, and and one of kind of putting it together in a way that is, you know, I consider received to be recipe. Honestly, it's that simple. It's that basic it has homework after every step and constantly people. Are our message saying this the third time I've read your book, I read it every January. So that I can reset every the homework of that. Which is is truly amazing because it's it's not revolutionary concept in the thing that was really kind of interesting as was done putting those steps together in the bear method. I kinda thought array will who's gonna listen to me, you know, single mom for argon like who's gonna give shit. Right. And then I thought, Wow, I've really surrounding myself intentionally with pretty. Amazing crew over the last five or six years, which was very much true. It really inspired me to step up in be my best self and other started going through my phone was like, oh my God. Like a lot of him. You really insanely successful people. There's many professional athletes that are in the book, you know, vice president merkin Stanley is in there, all these people were people that are in my circle. And so I said, hey, I wonder how you started like how did you get that dream, and whether tough and did you have to visualize it, and did you surround yourself with it? You know, did you sell it? And they told me the story in every single time when I was done all eight steps were in their story every time than so that is really cool. Yeah. That is cool. Holy shit. And so that became you're eight steps and wow. Yeah. Well, people just rave about your book. Can you share with us? Maybe a couple of steps that maybe relate to mindfulness that are that are outlined in your book. Absolutely. In the one that comes first and foremost to mind is one that has been such a powerful. Tool in my own life. And I really think it's the stop that changed everything for me. And that is think it step to in the book, I'm actually running a boot camp right now where we're on that step this week in the boot camp and think it is all about how H O W two chain thoughts because here's the thing. People talk about all the time think positive positive vibes only lab, blah, blah, right or they're like if you think positive positive and all this bullshit. And to me, that's what was it was like a bunch of words don't make any sense to me. And when I started I was like, I have no idea what's going on my brain. And I'm not at how do you control that? Like, Hello Pelos. Thirty years old. Why you could join us. Like that. And so I was out looking for the answer to that. And I could never find I could never find someone to just say like change thought for dummies. Here's how here's how you do it. Right. So that's really what I did. I just broke it down into the way, my brain processes things in kind of visuals images. And it's very simple like Chiro could get this. But it works. It's like. Really the set that I think when people read the book the light goes on because they're like, oh, my God have been trying to get this forever. And now, I got it blades on now. I get it. Now, I applied every day, boom. So for example, it kind of think of our thoughts as a offense and defense on a basketball court, right? You're watching a game and both his happening at all times. Right offense defense and the team that will timidly wins has a good combination of both. But they also have a better offense than their opponent rate. So often task the win at the end of the day. And what most people talk about in this space is how to play defense. So when the dirty nasty evil thought comes in you're supposed to ignore it or whatever. So that to me the defense will break if you have any other strategy, you're gonna be planned even for the rest of your life road lasted like the socks doesn't work. Right. So you have to easily put out into the universe. What you do want and that's your offense. So that has to be more than the defensive plan in the beginning. It's a lot of penetrate because you're all of a sudden you're noticing what you're thinking you're like, holy crap. Had no idea was negative or annoyed. Yo is cutting myself down all day every day. And no idea I was talking about money in. That's why I don't have any money. You know? So when you first go through it. It's like, whoa. But then once you're catching up and your your putting tools to change them than all the runs to the time. You're proactively putting out who you want to become a life. You wanna live how happy OB when you live into their after. No all that. Right. Oh, that is awesome. It's so inspiring to hear you talk about this because you're right. That's what everybody is looking for. How do I change those negative voices in my head and everybody talks about it? But actually cheating. It is the struggle. Yeah. And it changed everything. And here's the thing. Like if you do that combination. Right. And there's three different kind of skills are tools that I talked about in the book, I'll give you one of them. So again, individual way, this helps it stick kill the very first while I call it mental tennis. Tennis you're out on tennis court, and you have one of those electric ball hitters rate in. It's like stealing balls at you. You're not just gonna sit there. Like, no more on is going to sit there and be like, yeah. Please Bruce entire body. Just helped me the ground right out there with Iraq. It doesn't matter. If you're good or bad. You know does matter fall on your face ten times. Like, you're gonna not just there. You're gonna do something. Right. Right. So I think that is like our native are coming all day every day. They're just a torrent and most of the time we don't know what to do or just receiving them in. There were having a conversation with them. And they were letting expand nor letting them ruin our day. All that. Right. So I'd say like the second you recognize that you're having one of those sometimes it might be an hour after you've been marinating on it. Right. But once you recognize it, you just throw it back us Brokeback. So if the thought is I feel tired awful today. You just. Throwback the opposite every time. So it's a non thinking game rate. You don't have to think about it. You're like energize amazing on Samak's, you know. So that's that's kind of one really quick easy. Skill into the warrant the beautiful thing about bring the more. You do that the more that negative thought gets bored like them. I'm not getting their action. I used to get I'm not getting a Runar whole day like I used to. So it might come back in a new way, you know, tricky a little bit. But over time as long as you're putting out that positive counter every time in your off so spending time throughout the day imagining that to be true rate, saying energize beautiful. Then what happens you start? You know for us women getting pressed putting on her makeup and what what start to feel beautiful rate. So it creates action, which is the other big thing. People don't talk about it creates action. And so yes, it starts in your thoughts. But it it. Does that in a way that starts to create true belief true change through action to all that? And then over time the completely eliminated in you one thousand percent believe what started out to be almost a false, you know, affirmation in the beginning because you've morphed into that person. So I just do it. As like the way I set the barn minutes of all the time setting the bar raising myself. While how long did it take you to interview that number of people for the book and put all that together? From the time that I had the idea for the book to the time. I turned it in was year. When I had the idea for the book, I didn't even have agent Noah yet, how publishing works a you know, is starting at square one of anyone would who just has idea to write a book. But I told everyone was like, hey, I'm writing this book, you're gonna be able to buy it and Barnes and noble. No, you are. And everyone's like, yeah. I you know, whatever I can do. And so it was probably three or four months into that process of already writing getting interviews and all of that that I've got an agent in about three months after that that I got a book deal, and then I had six months to to turn it into the whole thing from kind of concept to turning it in was about a year. And then you later decided to write this book about vision boards called future boards. Have you always been a person even from the time, you're a child where you you would envision things you kind of alluded to that earlier. It sounds like you were a very visual little child is that right match. Hey match anything. Learned now, I didn't even know this when I was writing hustle received. But it's it's kind of a big part of the new book that people are kind of neatly born one way or the other either they're born kind of automatic just dreamers, and they're the kid that was daydreaming all the time in school in not vocalizing everyone's like Illinois country -ality rate, or they were kind of more of a planner or an analytical, or you know, like they like, research, whatever. So there's a million between right? But for me for the purposes of kind of everything I teach understanding that there's two ways people come at this made a humongous difference because as a dreamer myself. I kinda thought everyone had the capacity to to be able to do it. That was like, you know, doesn't everyone daydream when your kid or whatever and the more I kind of have coached have dug into it really really is not at all like that is a total skill set for some people that is very very difficult. So for my an. Political. I called him sinkers for my thinker is the very first step of hustle received. Which is dream. It is probably their hardest. Like, it is so hard. You know, so many things come up to block them. You know, like how Lynn I can't budget for a Anita. Have you know, spreadsheet for all that stuff? So getting them to let all of that go and just be all in start to visualize what their life like in a different way. Can definitely be the hardest work of the whole process and in for my dreamers like that of their candy man, where like we could go all day for that frigging love it. But you get down to one of the other steps, right? And that's where a plan comes in favor of the like a to a hard. Right. You know, like, oh finally for me what I've realized in this process is that being a natural born a dreamer. I had big dreams mind higher life. But I never knew how to execute them in hell, I figured out the method. It's in the book ever. I'd never completed anything. I've started until this because this actually eight need tools to be like. Oh, yes. That seems huge and unattainable and scary and whatever. But here's how I break it down in little bites that I can handle. And here's how that turns into something else, whatever. So that skillset has been every. Anything for me? I think has also just really helped people who are natural dreamers actually finally start getting results sometimes for seven life, cool Cerro. Telus actual true story about someone that you have helped take these eight steps to change their lives around and turn it upside down on my gosh. So so so many, but one one of the first ones that comes to mind is woman that coached into fifteen as writing a book on her name is Virginia in her story is in the new book, she's not gonna mind that I'm sharing with you today. But so when I first started working with her she literally spent every time she had to to get me other coach she had just filed. Bankruptcy had just got worse was literally at the bottom of the bottom was dealing with some really tough things depression. Bunch of other stuff was just truly unhappy in her life. She's unhappy at worship live lake location. Mayes. His happy at the job. Just everything was really kind of where I was when I was starting out just thinking really dark, and you don't even know how to imagine any other scenario rate. And so we worked through the eight steps over eight week period of time, which is how I normally coach it, and she wrote in week one where I kind of have them right there before story, which is the current where you cranley at, you know, how do you feel about your life, whatever? And she just roaches skills of lame. Like, I don't have any dreams that what I want whatever as we started working through that process. And we got to the to the stage where she rates at our plan and makes her future boards. She's envisioning with this new life looks like by then she'd let go of a lot of this. You know, these resistance and blocks or whatever it is allowed to dream. And so on her board she had that she actually wanted to move someplace sunny, she lived in a very cold climate. I wanna move to California pool in my backyard. Yard. She's like she described her whole house, but the pictures on there. And then she's like over the love of my life in active lifestyle, if so good fit and healthy, whatever. And it was about eighteen months after we were done working where she bought a house in San Diego is now married slow over life. They have been a year while literally late in the house. Look like the house that was on her Nichelle future. Purchase the pool in the back. They ride bikes on the beach every day like she's last weight field amazing. So like her life just blows me away every time. I talk to her about like only like how are you even the same human being, you know, and that's how I feel like. Totally different human being then I was incredible. That's an incredible story on may thirtieth to July first when Justin has his big event growth now movement live, what will you be talking about when you step on the stage. Yeah. So I I haven't nailed down the exact topic. But I know that I'm gonna be sharing the secrets of how to make a future for the actually works because this is not so clear about this. This is not a standard vision board is not a dream board. There's every single thing about the way that protest to make his words is not like anything else anyone's ever done if they've made aboard before are you able to give us a glimpse of a difference. Absolutely. I mean for one thing when I'm working with them, or even if they're reading the book, we don't get to make our boards tell five weeks in or five chapters in so that's that's actually step five out of eight. Because we have to I dream, right? We have to I allow our dreams even show up. Most of the time. We're so wrapped up in shooting them down that we don't even know they exist rate if it's a fast. Reaction that we have to cutting them down that allowing them to breathe is just a new concept for most people, and we have to send your thinking aptitudes away top if to really put in the foundational work if we wanna get results. So I actually don't have people cut out magazines. We don't do that. We don't just have a no-brainer party. It's very mindful. So when I look at my board it shows in a pictorial way, my exact future life, and that's why the future board because it's a prediction of my future. And I have manifested boy seventh Ord right now in ten under ten years. And just the most dramatic life changes, you can possibly imagine. So for me that board has one thousand percent predicted. My future is predicted this moment predicting all the moments that are coming because it's a complete alignment with what I know. I want what I know I'm working towards that's totally different than cutting out a bunch of pretty pictures for married. But you're creating a movement with this tell us about the new movement that you're creating and how this works for people who can't make it to where you're located. Yes. Yes. I'm so excited about this too. Because I'm a huge believer in action as he said in putting in the hustle and free in the work. I'm not a big fan of stupid random sales pitches. At all, I'm very no bullshit person. So might give you the goods. So I'm super excited about this. Because I'm gonna do are actually just launched a virtual book tour for future boards, which is the new book. It's published by Simon and Schuster, and it will be out a July set camp. And the what I'm doing for that is I want your listeners to gather their friends, their co-workers, anybody who remotely might want to do something with their life. Will want something more, right? And I want you to get them together in your home and have them make these boards together. This is not. There's no sales pitches is not Amylum party is literally people who want to live a better life coming together sharing that with each other having a great time doing it. And then if you have ten friends in vivo preordered the book, which is available right now for preorder, I will Skype in to your party and hang out with you reverse leaving some minor answer all your questions in. We'll have fifteen twenty minutes together. So I want my calendar lake covered with those I wanna show up at everybody's party in global. So doesn't matter where you live. You can host one of those have me virtually joint so super. So there's no cost involved people just hang out with each other. So this begs the question, what's in it for you? How are you benefiting from all of this and a have future? Boards in the hands of everyone at that party. And to me like that is the ultimate thing. Many computer now for seventeen bucks, right? And it isn't cocky to say that seventeen bucks change your life because I've seen it happened. So many hundreds of times that it's just a factual statement. So I don't know what you're spending seventeen bucks on today. But I promise you this. When you get your IRA I from so. Yeah, in my goal is in the movement that I've been creating over last seven or eight years is I've always brought everybody along for this riot f- for me and been really transparent in it. And so it takes ten thousand copies of book minimum. There's no hard science to it. But that is the general minimum to be sold in one week to hit the New York Times bestseller lists. You have one shot at that. Which is with Creole owners because pre orders all hit that figure the first week. Your book is relief. East? So literally every single person preorder, you're part of this screen. You're the one that made it happen. You're the one that changed things you're the one that got your friends to start manifesting. You're the one that is gonna be on trips with your kids that you might not have ever been on before. So that is that the mission like we're in it together. That is so exciting as we move forward. Sarah. I wanna ask you five quick answer questions. So just thirty second. Answers are perfect. The first one is this who is one person who's influenced mindfulness in your life. Oh, God Oprah. I would never have known any of this stuff. If it wasn't for bread. Never read a self-help book amend higher life. I just used to watch her show, and she was the one who introduced any of these concepts Hugh regular people and made them, you know, acceptable in way that we could understand them without her not be here. How is mindfulness influenced your emotions, oh God it allows you to control them. Isn't that? Great. Oh my God. I don't have to be on a rollercoaster. With this amazing. People can say whatever they want does fact meeting where because I control how I perceive things and I control what like aging, I don't have to having Zayed any more because I feel that. That is amazing. How how was breathing been a part of your mindfulness? It is something that I need to be better at quite honestly. But something that I am consciously getting better at do hot yoga. And that's a great place for me to remember to breathe. And then I also have a big proponent of what a power mottos. So does that really give the power in a moment? Specially when you're feeling powerless anti combine those with depress doing that together is fifteen fifteen twenty seconds of doing that you're gonna feel like a new human. So it is such a powerful tool. Cool. And are there any apps that you recommend? Maybe you use them or your clients do that can help with mindfulness. So for me a lot of what I struggled with was just staying on a routine. So at the beginning of the year, if I said, I wanna meditate fifteen minutes a day every day or want to spend time in silence, I want right or whatever just kind of being accountable to myself was always the toughest thing. Like, I knew what to do and you where to go to get that was just being out of. All right. So there's this apathy is just called done DO any, and it is just it's just to do it. But it's color coded. Megan set it up to be a daily reminder, and it will pin you. It'll be nine o'clock. Have you done your medication yet, you know, energy if something about if any of your listeners can relate to being a little bit of a control freak which I am. There's something about like a don't want to end the day until those little bitches checks. They've been really helpless. So simple, literally. It's simplest thing. But it's simple. But sometimes simple is the best. And just like, you're eight steps. You your simple steps that are are are steps that so many people have used teach it. So that is fantastic. Well, I think it's great hostile believe receive your your first book, so get your hands on that mindful tribe. And of course, your new book all about future boards, as you call them, what some of us would know as vision boards, but future boards, how to make a vision board to manifest exactly the life. You want coming out in July twenty nineteen. So I'm going to see you in reading Pennsylvania growth movement. Now, we can find you at Sarah and Trela dot com. And so that's essay our age. Don't forget the H and central. See e n t r e l L A, so Sarah, centrale dot com. Where else can we find you, Sarah, all the social networks just with my name as well? And the links to all of that is on my website the information about the book tour if anyone wants to join hope you do is under the tab my books. They can learn all about that. They're Anna the course that I'm doing right now will be an evergreen quest for the rest of the year. They can get them. Sir. You are so vibrant, so much fun to talk to and such a life changer for so many people that have been fortunate enough to be following you. And now there'll be even more thanks so much for being on mindfulness mode. Thank you for having me on her. Great by now. Thanks so much for joining us today on mindfulness mode for show notes for every episode checkout mindfulness mode dot com and type the guest's name or the episode number into the search bar. You can also go mindfulness mode dot com slash whatever episode number. You like if you've enjoyed this podcast, you could help us out by subscribing to mindfulness mode. Wherever you listen, whether it's on I tunes or Stitcher Google play Spotify, so many places you can hear mindfulness mode. So hit subscribe inch share because that truly helps our show. 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Harmful Cultural Pratices S03 E02

The Open Podcast

13:16 min | Last month

Harmful Cultural Pratices S03 E02

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Bern Notice

Lovett or Leave It

1:10:55 hr | 11 months ago

Bern Notice

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Heller Dr Joseph Meltzer from the Ucla Medical Center to talk about what it's like in hospitals right now will play a game with listeners about ads in the age of Corona virus and will hear your high notes but first quicken media went to work from home on March thirteenth so we have reached the one month anniversary of this if grabbing a single slice of bread and putting peanut butter on it and folding it in half not because you're hungry but because you're bored and holding that half a sandwich in your mouth loosely. You grab a soda from the Fridge. If that's a treatment for cove in nineteen. I am cured now in moments like this. We look to those who bring us comfort. You've already heard his laugh. Guy Brenham on this show. I'm very comfortable because I know it's going to be a great show. Hi Guy Hello good to be here. I'm GonNa ask you a question guy. Are you ready? Yes how are you holding up? Oh I'm doing okay. I'm swinging back and forth between sense that Jewish Paranoia has prepared me for this and then crippling fear that I have a fever and time you know that pendulum is is really keeping me balanced. Well that's good. I think a lot of us go to bed. With Corona virus. Wakeup cured seems to happen fairly often. But I have had one rock during this time John and I have to ask you. Have you experienced the bone? Apetit test kitchen videos. I saw one. I think with Michael Shannon. It might have been the bone apetit test kitchen. He had to make chicken facing away from the chef who was also making chicken. Yes that's Carlos series. No one likes Carla's series. It's fine you've to watch claire. Sophists attempt to make pop tarts while having a grey streak in her hair and having sexual tension with a married man who runs the test kitchen. It's very good and it's watching a very talented woman. Try something and come close to failing and not failing and in this time. It's the competence porn that you need. It's like the West Wing but in a test kitchen. Okay okay good wreck good wreck so yours is going to work. I'm going to deliver the monologue to you. Yes and after each joke. Just going to tell us how you feel about it. All right. We'll see how we're doing. Okay that's wonderful. Let's get into it. What a week. On Wednesday Senator Bernie Sanders efficiently withdrew from the presidential race making Joe Biden the presumptive Democratic nominee for president. And giving us something different to talk about after he withdrew Bernie did an interview with Stephen Colbert. In which there was a chess set in the background which checks out because Bernie is trying to America to a few moves ahead for awhile in America is like no thank you. What's behind Joe Biden? Hungry Hungry Hippos. We're in rookie seven roof to be seven. Fuck you nerd. Let'S GOBBLE UP SOME MARBLES. Yahtzee you communist. Joe Biden. Released a lengthy solicitous statement. Saying that Bernie quote doesn't get enough credit for being a voice that forces all of us to take a hard look in the mirror and ask if we've done enough and while the answer to that question has never in American history been. Yes it's sometimes nice just to ask you know. Biden also made entreaties to Bernie supporters. Saying I see you. I hear you and I understand the urgency of what it is. We have to get done in this country. I hope you will join us. You're more than welcome your needed together. We will defeat Donald Trump. And when we do that will not only do the hard work of rebuilding. This nation will transform it Biden and delivered a stirring appeal rooted in America's proud tradition of protests and activism a Lincoln sermon on the urgency of progressive change in an era of crisis unfortunately biden had accidentally muted himself on zoom and by the time he accidentally unneeded himself. It had been so long that no one had the heart to tell him to do it again. I really liked that joke. I thought that that did such a beautiful job of shaping out what we love and worry about when it comes to uncle Joe if you had somehow managed to mention That he comes from a state that has only populated by corporations and bankruptcy courts That would have been the Joe Biden. Joking I'm waiting for good to know. Good note good note For his part Bernie said this today. I congratulate Joe Biden a very decent man who I will work with to move our progressive ideas. Food buckle up for this one guy okay just okay just get comfortable. Just get comfortable all right. Oh you want my endorsement Joe. I'd love to give it to you. I I want you to have it frankly. It's doing nothing for me sitting in the case. But I've got a couple of things I need your help with. Okay first of all my friends here. They've got a lot of debt. And I need you to take care. Can you do that for me? Joe Can you take care of my friends I know you will? I know you're a smart decent guy. You'RE NOT GONNA make trouble. We don't want to get into a situation where one of us does something. The others going to regret are two campaigns. We've had our differences going back a long ways but right now with all that's going on in the World Joe who can remember. Some people do remember. Some people have long memories. They tweet those memories. They tweet a lot. But what can you do? I can control that. I wish I could but I think we can help each other. I understand that it's your platform. But maybe we can think about it just between us a little flight of fancy as being our platform. And Hey when you're thinking about who you're going to put some key positions do me this favor. Consider some of my people. Because they've got this idea in their heads in it silly. Believe me Joe that you'll say all the right things but in the end will disappoint us and you don't want us to be disappointed because then you'll be disappointed and there's only one person we want to be disappointed and that's Donald Trump now guy. I want you to remember that very concise joke and tell me if it's better than the altar we have okay. You ready today. I congratulate Joe Biden a very decent man who I will work with to move our progressive ideas forward a decent man. Whoa Bernie centrist much. Okay no I want I want the three minutes of monologue that was really a forum for your acting. Chops was also it was also like a Bernie Sanders. We haven't seen before which was getting some Real Meyer Lansky mid twentieth century Jewish mobster kind of energy which I think like loses place in the popular consciousness for all of the Godfather at all. I'm so grateful to you for pointing out that. That was not an Italian that that was a Brooklyn Jew. No it was honestly better impression work than I expect from you. Oh my goodness I have a low standard so appreciate it's no James and told me in but it's better than doing Domian who's going to be James dominators not James and domain. I can't do James Dome. James Domain has to do James domiant exactly but it was really fun and like this thing is what's so fascinating going about the burning of Joe of it all is like they have such a clearly good working relationship and you know it does give me hope that twenty twenty can involve some collaboration between the two of them and and at the same time. He's GonNa be nudging Joe the whole time meanwhile in La this week Mayor Eric. Garcetti told us that if there was ever a week to stay home not get groceries and just eat whatever we have in our house. It was this week so to do my part last night. I enjoyed a find last slice of cheese. That's dry on the corners comfy with a coke zero house you over a bed of triscuits with a side salad of frozen Broccoli with addressing of a soy sauce packet from the soya sauce packet and plastic forks from delivery drawer guy. Do you have a drawer like that in your home. I don't I try to throw those things away as much as possible which I realize is bad for the environment but good for my home organization but stopped trying to deflect from your joke. Your joke did not address the dry bean plight of so many Americans are going through right now. So many people are struggling to figure out to letters you with a bag of dried great northern beans hoarded on March seventeenth and I feel like Dajo could have done more to talk to their plight. But I do really appreciate the word picture that you painted if that slice of cheese because this week we are all that slice of cheese we are all that size of. That's such a good point. We are all alone in a bag with slightly dried corners. I will say there was this moment when everybody was buying beans and I didn't understand it because it was like you know that if you buy the beans you have to eat beans by other things. There's plenty of food kinds of food that you can buy that last a long time. That aren't beans. I understand that but also the parts of genetics that has been honed over years to understand that periodically. I need to flee countries or survive off. You know Outside of the boundaries of conventional things. We're like hey source of protein. That won't go bad for nine months. Let's try this like seeing America. Tried to deal with anything. Other than the grossest excessive plenty has been whole Laris speaking of dry crackers triscuit reference minutes ago. It's Passover Happy Passover Guy Hug Samak. John Haag Samak to you and we can tell that it's Passover because we are in our houses hiding from plague and because in a recent televised press conference trump said that rudy. Giuliani told him that. Smearing Lamb's blood on your door will stop corona virus. I mean it's as proven is hydrochloric Quin. Speaking of which Donald Trump was again. Giving Americans unsolicited medical advice on hydrochloric win. Despite the fact that evidence so far is inconclusive but to be fair to trump. These are scary times. When I'm scared I also just toss a bunch of random pills in my mouth and see what happens. I like that. It embraces the danger of the time I embody the kind of person who takes a bunch of pills. I've never been that kind of person that kind of care to the wind. Person I being a Californian immediately figured out what herbs the Chinese we're using to address corona virus so I bought like honeysuckle and then I think I got some elderberry 's and then I ate. The elderberry is but if done nothing. Donnie. Suckle ronin bought a bunch of elderberry. Gumy's yes that are vitamin Gumy's because he was he wanted to get an immune boost. Yeah they work. And I have to imagine like they're just coming in or doing nothing. Except for empowering our minds to convince ourselves that we're not sick which is very powerful until you actually get sick also this week guy. It was reported the debate over the malaria. Drug in the White House culminated with an argument. Where Peter Navarro Trump's fringe trade advisor screamed at Dr Anthony Fao G in front of the whole Task Force Guy. Imagine the earned confidence it takes to have an economics degree to argue with Dr Anthony. Fauci about epidemiology now. And can you guy? Can you begin to live with that kind of contradicts? It is magical. I was so excited to hear about it and expected nothing less from an administration. Those I answer to a global pandemic was lowering the prime rates. We know fix it March after thirty after this yeah lower interest rates. After the story broke reporters naturally wanted to ask about it. So here's what happened when they tried to weigh in on this issue hydroxy clerk Gwen. Would you think about this Dr Fifty? He's he's your medical expert correct question fifteen. Donald Trump wouldn't let the most trusted medical expert in America. Answer the question. That's like after a beautiful Olympic. Figure skating routine they ask Kristi Yamaguchi Triple axels. And trump is like. I'll take this one. Single reporter said Hi. I have a question for Andy. Do Frayne about what? It's like to escape from Shawshank prison and trump's like I'll take this one. You're not gonNA rule of threes this. You know what I know guy. I want the notes exactly right. There should have been a third. There should have been a third. You patiently generously waited for third joke. There is not but anti do freeness such a good escalation I was like what wacky direction will they go in the so? Here's what I should have done. Here's what I should have done. Here's what I should have done before. Andy defraigne it should have said Hi. I have a question for Elie. Wiesel about what? It's like to remain hopeful in the face of untold human tragedy. Trump's like Elliot's got this one. Then you go to Andy Frame or maybe what do you think what's the order? You think it's you think it's Yamaguchi with Zelda defraigne or Yamaguchi do Frayne we sell. What do you think okay? I think it's Yamaguchi. Do Frayne we Zell. But the last one is Malania. Saying I've got this as Elliot L. Seventy best of course. The New York Times did some digging and found that trump had a financial interest in the company that makes hydroxy chloroquine and it was also reported that conservative. Dark money group financed by the pharmaceutical industry. Run by one of trump's top donors have been aggressively lobbying for the drug and as you've been learning more about the chaotic and corrupt reaction the pandemic trump also abruptly fire the inspector general in charge of overseeing much of the Response Honestly Guy. I am so disappointed. Profiteering and evading accountability so he can help himself and his corrupt house during a tragedy without regard for the consequences. That's not the Donald Trump that I know John. That was just one of those tragic situations where I got actual news during the course of a joke and was so busy being horrified by What's the news. I mean? One of course should have assumed that trump had interest in a company that produces hydrochloric quin one had suspected it and then to like get the actual information. It's like Oh you learned it from the you learned from the setup guy see I see I learned it from the setup and was too busy feeling chills at the possible death of our democracy to really sort of be one hundred percent present for For Punch line and I think that's something we're all going through these days and I think and I just assume whenever a joke that I tell doesn't work it is because the audience is too preoccupied by the news of the setup and still be the reason like they're just overcome with civics and that's why they're not laughing overcome with the case of civics but I I'm just getting something in my earpiece this just in but up about the GAY News News. People judge briefly grew a beard seeking out the outer lane but then he shifted positions shaving his head and his beard attempting to move to the center guy. I had a question view as I was thinking that through so he has a beard and he has long hair. He's attempting the author Lane but when he shaves the beard and Shaves the head. What is the Gay Lane? He's now in. There's no lane for that. I mean the thing is is if you saw current people to judge. I think you would just assume that he was into like light. Sem stuff. I think you would just assume he's one of those guys who kind of has a military uniform at home and is at the fall line on a Sunday afternoon. Well that's the lane. That's the lane. I hope to see him there about gain news the FDA announced that they would relax blood donation restrictions on men who have sex with men to mark this historic occasion came in everywhere. Who are carefully socially distancing in every other respect guilty use dating apps to hook up with just one person all right guy take us to the next one but a pop up. Gay News Lesbian Astronaut. Anne McLean has faced accusations that she improperly accessed her ex bank account from the International Space Station a visually making her the first person in world history or shall I say her story to commit homosexual. Space Bag azure lengthy investigation. Federal prosecutors said on Monday that her former spouse summer awarded had lied to investigators. And that weren't could be facing up to five years in prison for those of you who are opposed to gay marriage. I want you to understand. These are the juicy divorces that could have been happening for decades. It's but up up up gay news one of Ellen. Degeneres is jokes backfire. This week after some people call out for comparing self quarantining in her mansion. To being in jail cut slagged she threw. The first brick stonewalled corrected. It was at her assistant but still and hats. Gay News on a serious note. The Democratic primary is now over. We have a nominee while this was coming for some time. A lot of young progresses or feeling pretty heart broken and for many who believe Bernie was the best candidate to take on. Trump are genuinely worried guy. How are you feeling at this moment at the kind of the as the Primary draws to a close. I understand that this was such a rich and diverse and broad like primary field. And he's sort of crazy to end it with a dude who's been in democratic politics since nineteen seventy-one but at the same time I think our current situation is such a strong reminder of why we cannot be frivolous with this election are just basic norms of rule of law and government. Doing its job and also I think it is so exciting that Bernie and Elizabeth Warren have made everybody think more about what government can and should be doing to maintain a civil society at a time when we have like needs and requirements. The we didn't think about six months ago and so I'm really excited that these people have primed the pump for us to get more on board with government doing more at a time. When we really needed I agree with that so I mean he was what I was thinking about that so there are these images out of India because people are staying home. The air pollution has fallen so dramatically that for the first time in decades in parts of India you can see the Himalayas at a distance so the US passes a two trillion dollar stimulus. We probably have to do. More provides a massive boost social safety net. Republicans abandoned any concern for deficits any claim to ideological purity to help people in order to preserve their own power and thank God they did. As I saw those images of India. I was just thinking that we are seeing clearly. Now that we are seeing what has been broken we are seeing what has been wrong for a long time and that trump did that just by dint of his winning exposed that the pandemic is doing that right now but that Bernie Sanders did that to that. We talk about how a lot of political coverage treats politics like a game. There's the horse race in that treats both sides as competitors and doesn't really regard the consequences the actual impact that who wins and who loses has on people's lives but that would also happens is subtly the candidates become the protagonists in the story. And they're not the protagonist like we're the protagonist. Yeah and collectively we shape the dynamics that determine not only who wins and who loses. But what's possible when the race is over Biden will be the nominee? I I believe he ran out of a sense of obligation and decency and love and fear for his country. He appeal to the broadest coalition of Democratic voters. He turned out a lot of voters but whether he wins and how he governs isn't up to him alone. It's up to us. Yeah I think you can see that. In Biden that he understands and respects the forces that allowed him to win this primary and that he will continue to listen to those voices and I think i. I sincerely hope that this guy who spent forty years in the Senate is going to be able to listen to the people who weren't part of his primary coalition and give us a better America. It's hard to have somebody who comes from the politics of the past step into this moment and fix for the future but I do trust he will listen to the people who should be guiding him towards a different understanding of American politics. I think Biden has been consensus Democrat for a very long time. And he's paid a price even in this race for those consensus positions because they were too far to the rest were in many ways heinous in many many respects for a long time but his platform now will be more progressive than Barack Obama's more progressive than Hillary Clinton's. If you believe that to win to govern he has to do more people should fight for it. They should fight to make sure to those policies that win November. They should keep fighting. And so my I will be siege. I will beg listeners strangers. I will do it personally of necessary. That the country depends on being Biden's greatest ally until November and then his biggest headache every day after well. I also think that what's going on right now. For a lot of those midwestern states and southern states that have been responsibly. Republican for the last fifty years. This is reminding them of why they need government. This is reminding them of why they were bastions of socialism in the thirties and forties. And I think you're gonNA see different kinds of senators coming out of Missouri and North Dakota. I certainly hope so. Especially as we're seeing the ways that some states are handling the current crisis very poorly and are not taking care of their citizens and are really gonNA suffer for it. Yeah I do think you're right. I there are many ways in which this pandemic can hasten a transformation of our politics that in many ways has been coming for a long time. That Bernie's arguing for longtime that's been. I laid bare by some of the stations inequalities the uncertainties the dislocation in the economy. But the only way that process can actually result in a genuinely more progressive and equal and fair society is if we all help Biden win. Even if Biden wasn't our choice I mean. Nothing is scarier than the decisions that have been coming out five four of the Supreme Court over the last couple of weeks and You know I think we we really need to that. That's going to get worse. And if we have like a six three or seven to supreme court in four years electing a socialist is only going to be able to get so much done because there's GonNa be a Supreme Court there that's ready to tear that shit apart and right now brier and Ginsburg are tired and you know we need people new voices new blood speaking up for progressive principles in the Supreme Court or else it's going to be a bad for a while. The breath of change. That was coming from. Bernie Sanders is as he frequently said. Not just about one man and it's going to take to push by to the left and to push American politics to the left is already happening with people getting excited at the grassroots running for local office running for State Office getting into the House and into the Senate. The people who have gotten excited and are running is going to change things and we are indebted to him for what that's going to American politics. Yeah and if you're not there yet I understand that but I just hope you'll get there and if you want my help to get their tweet at me because I'm I'm ready to fight because I made a decision and I said this months ago when it looked like Bernie Sanders or someone else might be the nominee that I thought we all had to be prepared to fight for whoever the nominee is as if they were the candidate we supported. And I meant that then and I mean that now guy as always your delight thank you for joining us before we go since this primarily began in nineteen ninety eight. We've been doing a segment celebrating each Democratic candidate that we've lost along the way and there were a lot and to say our thanks to all the Democrats who ran and to all of their supporters. One last time please enjoy in its entirety. The twenty twenty Democratic presidential primary in Memoriam. Eric Swallow. 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That guy in the wizard of Oz when you pull back the curtain it's a really small. Dude Castro twenty seconds after I start speaking to try and explain what I'm about the lights go off in the building I like. I hope this is not a metaphor for the rest of my campaign that it's never going to get started. The lights go out. Marianne Williamson Parasol. Make New Zealand. The place where it's the best place in the world for a child to grow up and tell her girlfriend. Uso ON CORY. Booker wanted tyranny or have their heads in the toilet. They were looking for Pu us. I love that one Andrew Yang. I'm going to be the first present powerpoint and the state of the Union. How do you go Michael? Benny the last time you were embarrassed. I'm sure it related to my children mocking me. Which is the cause of most embarrassing to fall? Patrick Hi Everyone Tom Style hybrid cook good. St Delta Heat Hey Donald Trump. The science is on my side. And I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard. I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard and I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard and I'd like to see how your hair would fare in a blizzard Michael Bloomberg. I'm surprised they show up because I would have thought after I did such a good job impeding last week that they'd be a little bit afraid to do that. Elizabeth Warren how many MOMMAS and daddies today or getting knocked off the track. Never GET BACK ON THOSE BABIES. Get topnotch care if means their MOMMAS can finish their education at me as their mamas in their daddies can take on real jobs. That's an investment in our babies that's an investment in their mommas and Daddies Tolsey gap aloha Bernie Sanders. Take a look around and find someone you don't know maybe somebody doesn't look Kinda like you. Are you willing to fight for that person? Who Don't even know as much as you're willing to fight for yourself. I don't tolerate Bush terribly. 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And if you heard pundit rolling around on the couch next to me. That's because that's what she's doing. Visit ZIPRECRUITER DOT com slash work together to learn more. And we're back. This has been a deeply strange month and many of us are stuck in apartments that are pretty small and because of that. Not everyone has time to unwind a nice outdoor space or even better a garden so we wanted to change that tonight. Emily Heller returning champion has been gardening nonstop for months now and has been asking to talk to me about it on air for just as long so tonight. We wanted to check in on her garden. Which now is your garden in. Fact it's America's garden. Emily how is everything going in America's garden? What are the updates this week? Well well well well well uh-huh I'm just saying I've been asked to do the same for a long time and I'm just saying look who suddenly interested look who suddenly if you're hearing about now we're here now. I'm just saying I seem to recall a certain podcast host telling me that he thought a garden segment wasn't right for the podcasting medium and quote because it's quote kind of boring without the pictures and quote. Oh but now all of a sudden the New York Times reporting on how seed catalogs can't keep up with demand because everyone wants to garden now and all of a sudden. You're realizing that I'm actually very relevant person. I want you to know that I find it absolutely despicable that. You're going to suggest to me that the reason I suddenly through interested in this segment is that I'm jumping on the seed Craze Bandwagon. I'm just saying now that it's actually critically dangerous to go into a grocery store all of a sudden. You're interested in what I have to say about this. This is just exactly like that time that I got a burger phone at goodwill right before the movie juno came out and then everybody thought you gotTa Burger phone because of Juneau's like no. I had a burger phone and then Juno Holland yeah. Everyone's like oh emily. You have a garden Is that because you're not allowed to go to the grocery store anymore and for me. It's like no I've been paranoid and anxious about our food infrastructure crumbling before I knew what was going to make that happen when I was about twelve or thirteen. I got a pair. Drawstring pants from a store called structure and I was afraid to wear them. Because I thought other kids would make fun of me for having drawstring pants and then all of a sudden the other kids started wearing the drawstring pants. So I started wearing the drawstring pants and everyone was like you. Just bought those drawstring pants. 'cause all the other kids about drawstring pants and I was like no. I actually thought these were cool. I but I was just afraid and now then you wait until they were flooding to put him on your yeah. That's exactly what happened. So we're in. We're in a classic drawstring pants scenario and now I mean look at where we are now like. No one should be wearing pants. That are held up by anything but drawstrings. You're not leaving your house. If you've got a button fly on what are you? What is the met gala? Anyway point is. You're welcome. I agreed to do the segment. Finally I trust that. You got my writer. You have the theme Song Ready. Yeah let's just say yes to that. We will definitely add that in post. I will tell you emily wait. You've got the lyrics though that I sent right okay just in case I'll just do a quick temp track and then you can have someone else record it. I guess it's Emily's guard and show for the garden things you need to know if you WANNA talk soil. She's your oil. It's Emily's garden show from lettuce two tomato dirt end sun and the water flow. She's here to help your plants get real. Big Gets Emily's garden. Show how much time I got. It was soon. That's the last of the left in the segment by the way because we haven't even really started yet. Well that's my whole point. Does my whole point is that you've been demanding to come on to talk about gardening so far. You only really wanted to talk about how you WanNa talk about gardening. Can you just tell us a little bit about this garden? That is so important to people to hear about. Let me just say first of all. This is a very exciting to be doing this segment back in January. I was checking on my compost tumbler. I might have told you that I switched to Peleton's pine in the Compost Tumbler for my Brown's Because I realized that the leaves from the tree in our front yard weren't really breaking down. They were a little bit too big and Waxy pint breaks down. It's just like it's already basically it's cat litter okay. Point is what are you growing? Are you growing okay? Point is I was checking on it. I thought it was almost done. And I found in their chunk of potato that had sprouted and because apparently it grew fine in the compost numbers. I planted that grow back. That was back in January. Okay go fast. Forward two months please. Fast forward two months. I'm in my garden. I had been ignoring the potato and grow bag. Because there's a lot of other stuff going on. I've been focusing on getting the weeds out of mind Mondia Patch. Do you know what they Mondia is. Point is on a whim I was like. I'M GONNA region in my potato grower bag. See if there's anything going on in their most things in the garden you know what's happening your like. I see that tomato. It's green right now. Eventually it's going to be read again. Right sure potatoes. That's not how they work. All the actions underground there's leaves above ground. But that's not really telling you that much of a story on a whim. I reached into the potato bag. Uh-huh there is a potato in there. Okay it's is more exciting. If you see the picture of the potato I will grant you my whole thing. That is what I've been trying to tell you from the beginning. You're doing a gardening segment in which there is no thing to look at. We don't know what you're talking about. You know what potato looks like this. So just picks her that but then one that's like a quite a bit smaller than the one that you get from the store. That's what I pulled out of my potato grow bag and I made these smallest serving of fries you've ever seen with it. What else is going on? Meanwhile what else is going on my spring veggies? I put them all in a few weeks ago. They're kind of just getting going my pea plants. A few of them got waterlogged by the rain. Which you wouldn't expect to happen in Los Angeles but guess what it does have one surviving pea plant. I meeting one sweet PEA POD off of it every couple of weeks I've got three more growing in my greenhouse. Do you think I'm GonNa Plant them this week? Hell no I'm not because it's still raining. My rain barrels are happy about him. I repeat plants or not. You know that's how basically always goes store your life. You know if you WANNA talk about exciting which I know you do. Let's talk about watching a P tendrils climb up a trellis. I WanNa talk about tendrils climbing up. The trump happened so fast within mere hours. Which okay granted if you're talking about a Netflix documentary about a big cat owner? That's too much time for it to take for it to get exciting. But when you're talking about a potential wrapping around a Trellis I think that's pretty exciting. What to do? I just really want to get to. I mean okay. Well did we already talked? Is there anything fascinating about this? Anything people might be interested in learning about this garden as you silver. You've just been describing various vegetables. I mean also sang a theme song. Yeah I am I rhyme soil and Goyal okay which we all remember product recommendation. Not especially but I guess. That's what else are we going to do. Okay I want to recommend a product. It's the fisker standing wieder. I think got the three blade version. I used to clear the weeds from demographia patch but I also patch. What does he? It's like it's kind of hard to describe. I would definitely recommend Google searching it. But it's basically like a stranded this podcast. It's kind of like a Gra- it's like a tolerant grass. Here's the thing we planted dementia patch because we were thinking. We want a grassy area for our dog. Since we're getting rid of the law. Did I already talk about the TURF? Replacement Rebate that. I got from the county of Los Angeles for getting rid of my grass. Is I gotta say we're we're rapidly running out of time. There's got to be. How much time do we have left? Thirty Seconds Okay. About thirty yeah sure. Thirty seconds fisker standing leader. I basically was able to clear weeds from demographia pageant also harvested Monday to save and replant it after a solar is the soil which is a process that you use to get rid of any unwanted vegetation in an area so basically. It's like clear plastic sheeting. You put it over the area and then in four to six weeks. The Sun kills all the weeds underneath it. I don't know if it's GonNa work right now. It kind of looks like a pond so suspenseful there were. That's a cliffhanger for the next time we do this. Oh Oh the big thing is this morning. I got a ROLODEX and I used to alphabetize my seeds. I'm sorry I just a part of me died. What is the point emily? You gotta give us some final thoughts. I gotta get out of this thing okay. Everyone wants to grow plants right now. No they don't and I it's not true. I think a lot of people do and what I want to say is. You don't have to be particularly good at it. Just watch a lot of youtube videos about it. I think what I'm trying to say is the point of this. Segment is go. Watch youtube videos about gardening. If you want real information and not take it totally stonewalled by the unreceptive. Host of a podcast. Who BASED ON WALL LIT ME TO CUT ON WALT stonewalled? I gave you this. This is a platform. I have let my platform to you. Yeah Yeah and what do I get in return just time to talk about the thing? I'm passionate about what value is back to me right now. I don't know I'll admit more dynamic segment if it wasn't raining and I could go outside. I'll grant you that. Look here's what I think. I think America's garden is going to go onto a very tall pile of love it or leave it segments. We call the maybe pile. I never agreed to that name. I'm calling it emily's garden show. Oh Emily's garden show because this is now your show you've now taken over. It's my show within your show. It's a show within a show like like Matt or tool time or tool time. This is finally finally a kitchen for men the man can you put that in my theme song me going. Yeah we got. Hey more power. We gotta make sure do. Can't forget to remix the Emily's garden theme song to include the Tim Allen. Grunts TRADE OUR TRADEMARK. Emily any final thoughts for the home gardener. The green some out there looking for a little Boost wow this time really flew by I will say I will say people are genuinely a more interested in gardening right now. I've gotten a lot of people hitting me up. Not just you plenty of other people who are interested in gardening. Now because it's nice to be able to like have access to your own food and it's a scary time and being able to control one small piece of land and to just take all of your anxiety out into the dirt and just sort of work your fingers bloody to the bone to just sort of energy outs like kind of a nice relaxing thing. Point is be patient with your local nurseries. They've got a lot of stuff to do right now but get into it. It doesn't matter how little space you have as long as you've got a little bit of sunlight you can get a container out there. You can grow yourself something I think do it. Well there's a beautiful message in that doesn't matter a smaller container is it can find some sunlight. Yeah I feel like we can edit that down into something beautiful. I hope this has been the first of many installments. Well we've had a lot of fun on him garden show. The outra Song is three times longer than the intro song. Let's hear it. I'm excited well. We've had a lot of fun learning how to make our plans. Get Big UH big. It's Amolis guard and show. I did in a write this song in advance. But I know that if you want to guard and you're GONNA have to start with plans. Oh we want you to get some dirt and then you can just sort of like faded out and it'll be implied that I sang for a lot longer. Great Emily thank you. Thank you guys we come back and interview with Dr Joseph Meltzer Cake. Don't go anywhere. There's more of love it or leave it coming up everyone. I'm Alex Wagner journalist and Co host of showtime's the circus and now host of the new crooked media podcast six feet apart each episode of six feet apart will offer a window into the hidden worlds of this pandemic the chaos and fear the resilience and innovation all of which have been necessary parts of survival in this extraordinary moment new episodes of six feet apart. Drop every Thursday. Subscribe on Apple podcasts. Spotify stitcher or wherever you listen to podcasts. He's an anesthesiologist in the intensive care unit at UCLA. Dr Joseph meltzer welcome. Thank you very much nice to be here so when we first met. You tried to convince me to stop writing electric scooters. Do you remember when that was a problem? It doesn't seem like that much of a problem anymore. But at that time the proliferation of Electric Scooter seemed semi viral. I met say nothing compared to the viral outbreak. We're seeing now and right now you are. You're speaking to us from a guest rooms that you could stay away from your family. How has treating patients with Kovic affected your day to day life? I've been sleeping in spending the majority of my time at home in my back house. However we've been having meals when not raining together in the backyard. I've been wearing a mask in the house to help prevent droplet spread as well as large particle contamination. And I would say my wife has been sort of white being down high touch surfaces when I'm not there somewhat it is trying and it's a real change in quality of life although I've been talking to many friends in New York who live in smaller closer quarters. Who are not able to do that. And what they've been doing is changing their clothes at work coming home immediately taking a shower and then changing their clothes again. Can you talk a little bit about the length? Ucla has gone to prepare you right now. Los Angeles hasn't seen the same surge that we've seen in places like New York. What does it take to get a hospital ready for the potential rise in patients that you still expect the efforts are almost unfathomable to try to properly prepare a massive institution or healthcare system for something like this? We would never be able to do what we've done without looking at the Chinese experience. The Italian experience the French experienced the Spanish experience and I would say most importantly New York City. The governmental oversight in California has been outstanding if we are to escape a surge which we may or may not it will live mostly on the backs of Gavin newsom and mayor. Garcetti at least in Los Angeles to enforce social distancing measures These are things that have worked since the bubonic plague. They seem to be put into place. Relatively early in California relatively early in Los Angeles and those measures seem to be at least at this point working. Well one of the things that there's been much reports about that. So there's a lot of discussion as to the availability of testing. But there's also been some experts questioning the accuracy of the test. Do you trust the test. Are you seeing any negative results? That just don't make sense to you. I think we must trust the accuracy of the test without trusting the accuracy of the test. I think we undermine our ability to do our jobs. It is possible that all tests are not created equal. It sounds like we've scrutinized the test quite well at Ucla and the microbiology. Lab has been able to reassure us greatly of its sensitivity and specificity that being said you read about certain tests on the Internet. A POINT OF CARE TESTS. That can be done five minutes or ten minutes. I cannot lend any reassurances. To those tests we have two tests that were essentially doing one in the nasal ferrings which is in the nose and mouth early on when their first showing symptoms and the second test is done from the Lower Airways. It's thought that the virus in its early course contains itself quite a bit to the nose and the mouth and then from some point. Further once patients are having significant respiratory. Symptoms is down in the lungs and it's recovered from there. We do think that the test taken from the nose. The mouth is somewhat operator dependent and so the sample needs to be good so that if there's no virus in the sample it's quite hard for the tests than to detect virus on so that test needs to be done well. How else have procedures protocols change whether it's sharing ventilators experimental treatments like what? What are you willing to do to kind of bend? The classic rules given the crisis in front of us for someone to be bending the classic rules I think they would have to be facing surge conditions so colleagues from New York colleagues from Italy are certainly not practicing business as usual. It would be disingenuous for me to say that we are practicing anything other than our usual business at this point in southern California. At least where I'm working but we are putting protocols into place practicing simulations that are very much not business as usual and those protocols and guidelines relate to ethics In terms of the triage of critical care services to patients doing simulations in terms of a code blue slash cardiac arrest scenario how we gown and glove and protect ourselves during what we think are these era saliva procedures like intimation and CPR. In talking to colleagues and friends in New York and Italy and China very much. So they're they are practicing things that might almost be unfathomable sending patients out of an emergency room. Who have a low oxygen level with a pulse ox similar to check their own levels having patients that would be normally critically cared for in an ICU environment on the floor of the hospital. Converting operating rooms that would normally be used for surgery for intensive care where the operating room has been converted to an ICU room. That might old one two or three patients where the airflow within the room has been converted from something that we might call a positive pressure room where Aris flowing into a negative pressure room where Ariza flowing out by cutting holes in the wall and pudding air filters and fans to reverse the airflow in the rooms. These are conditions that six months ago one might say would be infathomable in this country with the way that we dispense healthcare. When I told people I was GONNA be talking to you. Everyone has a set of questions that they're asking over and over again. I think you must be getting these all the time. Here are the rapid fire questions. Are you ordering takeout right now? if I get takeout I don't worry about it too much. If my wife gets takeout she will wash it off. Is advil bad? We're avoiding advil at this point. Moving more towards tylenol. Although I wouldn't want to disparage advil if you're sick and you're not sure what it is and you think it might be covered. Nineteen when is the right time to seek medical attention? Take your temperature. Even though that may not be the most specific or sensitive indicator of having covert Corentin yourself as long as safe and then do not seek medical attention until you're feeling some level of shortness of breath if you have had sick contacts or high risk contacts getting testing makes a lot of sense epidemiologically now with respect to cove nineteen but more broadly. You're in the middle of this sudden campaign calling upon so many different facets if you're training so many different aspects of our collective capacity to protect people to save lives. What have you learned about practicing medicine or about the medical system? Generally that you didn't know before in this country healthcare and medical systems still remain quite silo and I've been greatly uplifted by the Camaraderie and the ability of people who had been working within different silos but within very very related healthcare avenues working together and coming together the Camaraderie has been pretty uplifting. I would say I learned that I've also learned that some people respond to crises quite differently and that we need to remember not to and I've also learning that the ability of our healthcare system to flex itself up to a different level is quite fascinating and amazing hearing what is possible within the State of California New York Illinois Georgia and some of these healthcare systems is quite amazing that there is such great capacity and ability for these disparate healthcare systems to work together. One last question. What are you looking for to tell you that you think Los Angeles the city you're treating is out of the woods? What's the sign that says? All right I can see the end of this thing. It's GonNa time soon to kind of go back to life. A lot of us are looking at different mathematical models. That seem to show what the spread of this disease is doing. And in watching over the last week's we have seen that the curve within what we project in. California at least is been greatly greatly pushed down and that the surge in places like Louisiana and New York Seems to be passing that being said I think what we need is some transparency from our governments to tell us what models they're looking at to let us know that these quote unquote numbers translate into saving lives clearly. What we have is a paucity of leadership in this country. What we have is a pandemic of a virus but also a pandemic of poor leadership at this point. I'm endorsing foul cheaper president and also I feel like the leadership in California. If anything has been what's responsible for the reduction of viral transmission here and so what? I'd like to see. Is those epidemiologist and health care leaders signaling to us what modeling they're using to let us know when we can quote unquote begin to return to business as usual. Dr Meltzer thank you so much for what you're doing every day. Thanks for giving us the time. 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FE3.3 - Nature, by Design? Freakological Fallacies

Future Ecologies

1:03:44 hr | 2 months ago

FE3.3 - Nature, by Design? Freakological Fallacies

"You're listening to season three featuring colin. Jeez hey everyone. This is adam. And this is the third and final episode of our series nature by design which is kicking off our third season. If you haven't listened to parts one and two then. I recommend that you start there because this is essentially one conversation that ended up being so rich that we had to break it into three parts to summarize in parts one and two. I introduced mendel to two mentors of mine. Eric eggs and oliver cal hammer and their ideas about designing with nature. Those episodes focused on ecological restoration and ecology design. Intentionally this episode on the other hand will deal with ecosystems that we create by accident. This is nature by design part three freak logical fallacies Can we keep going indeed. So where was i well Last time you split the ecology around us into three categories and. I'm pretty sure you had just made all of them up. Yeah i definitely just made them up. So you identified those ideologies that human beings create as audacious ecology these and we spent most of the last two episodes talking. Those kinds of ecology is that we create on on purpose right but the vast majority of the ecology is that we humans create are are not on purpose they are accidental byproducts of our economies and our lifestyles and these kinds of places are all around us they they might even feel comforting because we're so used to living in them and since we started last episode with a flash back to eric's younger days it seems appropriate for us to now take a trip down memory lane with oliver and as it turns out he also grew up around the same time in dom an industrial part of suburban ontario. Exactly like the primordial us from canadians form as a child. My father worked in factories and then sometimes on the weekend he'd have to go in. He eventually became a form in head to watch the machines going into the weekend and make sure they were still working and he would take me with him because my mother worked in a supermarket and she couldn't look after me. So so you would take me to. The factory and i was intrigued by these sort of industrial spaces and they often had like a yard in the back where it was like all kinds of rusty machinery and weeds and like sort of feted puddles of chemically contaminated water. And and i was like really excited by those places they Early on i was quite interested in them. And i remember the house up in You know was in an area that used to be orchard but they just went in with bulldozers and pushed all the fruit trees out of the way so they were like upside down fruit trees all over the place that were dead and so it was kind of carnage situation as a child. I this is in the suburbs of toronto. I found it interesting. Now is a sort of normal landscape and then it was like these giant construction sites everywhere. Were building shopping. Malls in the early nineteen sixty s and giant holes in the ground with big piles of subsoil beside them which were full of prehistoric Fossils choral and and things like so interested in how my god you know. Southern ontario used to be a tropical ocean you so this disturbance static grow in disturbed landscapes and. i just thought that that was kind of norm. Also when i'm in a place like this currently sitting in this beautiful place in near victoria it's incredibly beautiful and heartbreakingly beautiful. But it's also kind of alien to me it's not really my natural habitat. It does feel a little too beautiful such a thing but maybe from a tropical ocean to a laurentienne forest and then from orchards to landscapes of disturbance. This is a story that has been playing out. Anywhere that human beings congregate on this planet. We reshaped the earth. We alter hydrology. We introduce new species and even changed the climate. All well trying to achieve it usually completely unrelated purpose like digging up useful rocks or making food or manufacturing widgets and meanwhile we've taken what typically would have been a functional ecosystem end. We've scrambled its constituent parts. Sometimes our impact cease after this initial scrambling other times our continued presence and activities create novel conditions that can persist for decades or even centuries. So what do you call it when from all that scramble out patches flamingo. Well if you if you were to ask eric he would call that flamingo. a novel ecosystem. And if you'd ask oliver he would call that. Flamingo hyper so. I guess you can call it. Whatever you like still like frequent systems so in this last episode of nature by design. We're asking what if anything should we make of these scrambled places the true freak. Oh systems of the anthroposophic broadcasting unseeded shared and asserted territories of the west connecticut. Let some leyland sarah. Today and other holcomb medium speaking. It's fisher in college courses Okay so before we continue. I just wanted to challenge you on something you said before that. Almost all of the ecosystems around us especially those in in favorable climates have experienced intensive human impacts over long periods of time like that's often predating european settlement definitely. Yeah so in keeping with your Taxonomy wouldn't that make most ecosystems into audacious ecologists. I guess i would say no. Because most of the time are impacts. Leave their marks. On the landscape. For a while. But i i would argue that historically these impacts had more in common with other forms of natural disturbance like a wildfire or a windstorm than they've had with like trying to tear form an uninhabitable planet. Sure or building a mall right which is like functionally. The same approach. Doesn't look that different right. She more or less so with these historical disturbance is usually natural processes of succession would take over right meaning the ecosystem eventually recovers in some way. Grasslands fill back in forests regrow yeah Marshy marshes get marshy and. Usually we just take this for granted and really crafty. Human societies have actually harness the cycle of disturbance in regeneration to grow food and other useful things yes And so to leave behind what i would call an audacious ecology you'd have to go beyond that level of disturbance you'd have to transform nearly every aspect of given ecosystem at once and basically send it on a totally new trajectory and i'm not saying that people didn't do this in the past like people totally did this in the past and it's it's pretty likely that some ecosystems that we see as natural were actually created an intentionally accidentally by people way back when and over overtime. They've just gone from audacious to what. I would call tenacious or cherished if you will yeah so so. When people talk about the amazon rainforest being a human made food forest. That's exactly what they're talking about. Yeah so the difference now is just scale and speed essentially. There's there's not as much time to recover and and the impacts are so much deeper and wider. All at once. I i'd say that's exactly that we've always transformed the ecosystems around us to some extent but now we're doing it all the time all over the planet and in many places just like to such extremes that natural successional processes ceased to function as they had previously like in those chemically contaminated wastelands. That oliver described from his days of your. Yeah and sometimes. These places are so wrecked that they just can't recover at all on their own but every now and then these totally unprecedented ecosystems form composed of species that have never occurred together before and they're functional and when you say 'functional what what do you mean. Exactly you're really. You're asking all of the hard questions at the top of the. That's what i'm here for. okay anyway. One way that you could find functionality is that an ecosystem provides many of the ecosystem services that we as people tend to value. Are you familiar with that term. Because system services i am but i think we should break it down a little bit. More ecosystem services is a term that ecologists and economists have come up with to try to quantify in financial terms the benefits that because species invited steve by to us. Because you know people have learned the hard way overtime that unless we can put things in terms of dollars and sense People tend not value them in the society that we live in. And there's this huge debate between people who feel like we shouldn't put a dollar value on ecological systems and species and people who feel like it's actually really important that we do. And i think everybody's right to be honest But you know ecosystem. Services are useful in the extent to which they actually allow us to name some of the things that because systems do for us and in this case they're going to help me define what makes up a functional ecosystem. So what are those okay. So ecosystem services are typically grouped into four broad categories and. I'm just gonna go through them. Really quick The first category is provisioning services so like providing something. Yeah like food or water. They produce food and water and materials for us. Right okay The second category is regulating services like like a buffer in some way so they maybe like like how a force might keep the the region a lot cooler than it would be otherwise regulates the local climate absolutely. Yeah like temperature regulation storm. Mitigation flood mitigation disease prevention. These kinds of things right okay. So that they regulate they regulate keep it a little dog on the section okay. I don't know what you're talking about that regulate it's a classic Okay the third category is supporting services supporting supporting what. Yeah that one's a little bit more opaque It means that they they do things like cycle nutrients and they sequester carbon right so they they provide kind of a backbone for lots of other processes to take place and another critical supporting services pollination right all of those buzzing bees and flies making sure everything gets pollinated And the last category is cultural services. Right so some someplace that places like a social benefit like the trail systems so are aesthetic or or people use them to spiritual ends or or for recreation right that guts an inconsistent service exactly all of those values that are maybe a little bit more intangible but still like very important to us as people and again human centric in that way. Oh absolutely yeah. I mean ecosystem services like are provided for the whole biological community right. It's just it's not just for us but certainly the cultural services Category i would say is mostly for us. So if some if an ecosystem has some combination some balance of provisioning regulating supporting and cultural services. Then that makes functional. Yeah i think you could say at that point that it's a functional ecosystem especially if it's resilient through time right that it that it stands up to various pressures or or change right and so these unprecedented ecosystems that i was just describing these free. Systems are flamingos. Whatever you wanna call them even though they never would have existed without car human intervention and even though nobody consciously designed them. Some of them ended up being functional. Okay i'm satisfied. You can break all the eggs you want but you're only occasionally going to get a flamingo to hatch from the scramble. Sure yeah and that kind of urban sprawl that oliver grew up within. That seems like it would be a perfect example of a place where people have created free co systems without planning to. I'd say yes. Although oliver would actually quarrel with the idea. That sprawl is unplanned. You know what is. Sprawled sprawl is an aesthetic judgment. Like you know. People are moving into areas where you don't want them to be moving right and so who are you. And what are those areas like for velez. i mean. people don't like them. Because there's all these little junky houses made out of cardboard and tape but that's because that's all people can afford in their. They're kind of genius. People who who are building things out of nothing and need a place to live so but when we think of sprawl often in the north american context we think of like the dreaded suburbia which actually is not unplanned. in fact it's the opposite of unplanned. It's extremely planned planned badly. But it's not unplanned. It plan is to take over as much farmland as possible and turn it into capital for developers. it's also sort of class enhancement opportunity for the bourgeoisie. It has nothing to do with un planning. It's planned into disaster but it's a plan disaster. I love that. He called sprawl an aesthetic judgment right. Okay so he's contracting that creative exuberance of unplanned for velez with the plan disaster of suburbia but in either case. There's there's a lot of ecological disturbance involved totally so. Oliver grew up as i did within the plans disaster of urban sprawl and he became enamored with what he calls rurally colleges which are ecosystems of human disturbance basically brownfields industrial parks dumps Train tracks and i want you to hear him talk about them. So i'm going to cut back to those lecture tapes. You mean the one where he's talking right next to a whole bunch of chickens. Yeah those ones okay. Also all these areas here of what they call motorola colleges or brownfield industrial engineering. You've all seen these places like so this is between two buildings. Nobody's done just this right disturbance launer gannon continent so what action. So let's look right. Nobody garden this. Okay i know of plants a little right and what what's happening. Isn't he still break. So look at war when we know this is caught. Would that's native as the is. I know that this is a lapis which is called him garbage onto new york their type of tree. That's like samak with asia. I know this is barbara everywhere and molly here often in these kinds of places. Functional ecosystems are just never allowed to form like the there might be living things there but most of them are just hanging on for dear life. And there's so much disturbance or toxicity that they don't really get a chance to build something lasting together but there are lots of times when left to their own devices. these rural colleges can develop into functional ecosystems. Which just to recap our ecosystems that provide habitat and food and regulate climate and cycle nutrients and prevent erosion and so on and so on. Yes and oliver calls these kinds of places hyper. He's hyper college rates. Combination need species as you his thing right in sort primary stage of succession is growing on green garbage in but it's an ecosystem. So what am i do this right les trying to find a way to not think these businesses kind of failures stephen this kind of success whilst nature's fixing like the world environment because the idea like the built environment is slow release fertiliser buildings or slow release fertiliser worse laura fertilizer even if we end we do ultimately s stuff and these hyper colleges. Don't just support weedy species. In in many cases they can also be critical havens for endangered species american l. which only grow now inserted industrial areas is there. They're protected from the is by living in these environments read whereas they're kind of endangered in the natural fourth freight. So it's so weird. How these players are saving rare native american species that so so bizarre. That's wild so. In this case people accidentally introduced dutch all disease to north america and that killed off all the elms in their native forest ecosystems but we also accidentally created the sort of rural economies that in their own way provided insulation against the disease so so within those spaces. Those trees could actually survive. Yeah it's it's such a bizarre story and actually one of the strangest examples of hyper ecology. That i've personally experienced was in california in in elsa bronte right. Yeah the the leftovers. Yep it's actually on the planting justice food forest farm which we talked about on episode. Two point four. yeah anyway. There's this seasonal creek there at the bottom of the farm and it's it's clearly seen a lot of change over the last century like it's been grazed and it's been used for your education and diverted and partially buried in a concrete culvert and when i surveyed it there was all manner of human detritus in there and most of the creek goes dry in the summer. Like many creeks in california. But i distinctly recall that this one section of the creek was wet year round because it was fed by a natural spring and the strange thing was that that area was completely forested but the forests had a canopy of blue gum eucalyptus trees an under story of algerian ivy poison oak. Just like covering the ground and climbing up the tree trunks and then also had a sub canopy of native arroyo willows and native california bay trees. But the definitely non native american elm. I mean i'm not so familiar with these california ecosystems but right right. I like expected that to landon have meaning. But you're like what about. It does sound like strange company. Yes to any botanist. In california this would be a very unusual sight to see all these species growing together and seemingly like making an ecosystem but it was definitely there indefinitely thriving had the structure of natural forest and it was providing those ecosystem services. We were talking about. It was preventing rosen in the stream bed and it was providing nesting sites for birds in the canopy and leaf litter to build the soil. But it was definitely a hyper ecology. Like i have never seen that kind of ecosystem anywhere else. That's wild and it's encouraging. I guess to see those american elms making a comeback on their own terms and in these unlikely places. But here's a question we. We spent a lot of the last episode talking about restoration and that kind of active way and wouldn't wouldn't this be the kind of place you'd want to restore to just those native species. Well that's the question behind this whole episode And if if it was just a canopy of eucalyptus trees. Personally i would probably say yes. If if it was technically feasible like you. You could argue that. The native creek vegetation for this area could be more functional and provide more habitat for native species in the long term although with climate change. Who knows right we. We have limited resources right. So usually we're focused on restoring ecosystems that have been obviously damaged and that aren't really functional like something is preventing succession from even happening in the first place. Or there's some kind of toxicity or human infrastructure or another issue preventing even basic recovery but in the case of you know this little eucalyptus elm ivy forest ecosystem has kind of recovered it. It just looks and feels very different to us. But you can't say that the hyper college that you just described and and whatever the native ecosystem would be probably a mix of fremont cottonwoods and willow. Maybe california sycamore right. Okay you can't say that that's ecologically equivalent to the to the eucalyptus elm forest. You just described. You're you're right. i. I definitely can't say that but when it comes down to at our powers to intervene in ecological systems are are limited and our resources are limited and i mean oliver actually makes the argument that the whole planet is a sort of college because humans have already had such a huge impact. I'm not sure that go that far. No you you already set with your own categories. that's right. I guess my point is just that we only have so much time and money and in terms of like ecological triage. We tend to prioritize areas that have experienced the worst damage. And where these kinds of functional hyper colleges haven't been able to develop either that or places where we have very specific values or goals the justify the investment and and and justify the risks right because restoration is a young discipline and there's always the potential that will damage something that's already working in our pursuit. Something that we hope will work. Yeah yeah that's fair who. We are unbounded in our capacity to mess up. So oliver's argument would be that we should just learn to value and embrace these kinds of freak. Oh systems these these hyper colleges. I mean he. He did say that's where he feels most at home. It is it. It is his aesthetic teaching to art. Show thing where they want to design sustainable guard for six weeks. It was a rural urban forum in vancouver to bring in a bunch of plants and take them out in a certain and wanted to do something. I wanted the commission so So within their and found this weird little thing which is a concrete plan highly barriers in the middle of the barriers. A pile of weeds right. Wow that's perfect. That's my sustainable garden. Go rented stairs idea. Go up look at the weeds and all and and it was great. Because what i did was i went in there and i realize these leads before smartphones so we just had this nokia phones so i if i and i made a little one eight hundred you can call one eight hundred. Whatever a scotch room you know. It'd be like recorded talking. About how scott got to north america and i'll like how you know we have some problems but it's also cool blackberry break. Kaden would once again but it notice. Notices scotch broom like well come from l. silver dollar much worth rate. It's like the russian so we know it comes from scotland right lane ray from asia right and the native cottonwood so you have essentially a reflection of the human settlement of the man up the weeds and sets mir offs right which is kind of cool and so this is us the weeds right so the native plants are still there right some of these dogs as well. They're kind of commingling. Favourite policy is convincing his very convincing. He is an and. I would say that his us would be controversial to say the least for many conservationists recreationists. But let's say that you disagree with oliver right you look at the eucalyptus and elman. Iv and poison oak and willow forest that i described in elsa bronte and you don't see a functional artistic representation of the cultural diversity of the bay area instead. Maybe you say to yourself. What a mess. Yeah what a scramble. Let's clean this up right. Let's restore the native ecosystem. Okay what if you can't the what if you can't what do you mean can't can't we can't do anything. What if it's impossible like what if anything short of disneyesque wilderness lodge levels of investments and engineering and intervention will fail to return this ecosystem to your desired state. What then. I hope you're gonna tell me eric is going to tell us. Oh nice. that's my transition to catch it. At ted i noticed. Ooh okay so these never before seen ecology that we've accidentally created that oliver refers to his hyper colleges. There's actually a technical term for these that has developed within the ecological restoration discourse okay. They're called novel ecosystems and it just so happens that eric is one of the principal architects of this concept. He edited a whole book on the topic. What a coincidence but before we can continue. He has a disclaimer for us. I realized that if people superficially look at what. I've written on restoration where they read this book nature by design and they take that title and then they look at novel ecosystems. They might construct the idea of of someone who is really interested. Kind of bullish up promoter of these kind of emerging novelty in nature and. It's very much not the case. If you do a fine read on nature by design which you have. He'll dime pulling exactly in the opposite direction. I want to get away from technological notion of ecosystem. I want to embed a comedic logical integrity. I want to understand the process of historical knowledge. And how it informs frustration. I wanna see how people connect more deeply to place through restoration. And then i want to try to rein this in our town of ambition as people this sort of technological ambition i want to rein that in by saying we need to be careful designers whatever. We do with restoration so to be clear. Unlike oliver eric is not necessarily thrilled to see these novel. Ecosystems cropping up everywhere. No not not really. He's fascinated by them. But i actually think that. He's pretty alarmed by the ecological novelty that we're creating all around us. There is one thing though that distinguishes his thinking on the topic. What's that it's that he doesn't define novel. Ecosystems as ecosystems composed of native native species occurring in places that they never would have before right instead by definition novel. Ecosystems are ecosystems that are for all intents and purposes unrestored able like we can't restore them to native ecosystems. I came into the novel. Ecosystems work through our recognition of the effects of rapid climate change on ecosystems and where restoration how restrictions going to deal with the future of ecosystems in which there were these sort of novel assemblages right new combinations of species that were emerging because of rapid change so that was kind of a thought experiment initially and then we were starting to put together literature and more and more people were doing this. You could come up with a novel. Assemblies of species so these were usually ecosystems that had arisen as a result of some kind of direct or indirect human disturbance. And you got an amalgam of species that have never existed before together daily and species exotic species native ones and then they persist over time and form these new ecosystems. That time we don't manage. We don't intervene and they are doing. There are functional ecosystems. But they're just very different than what we've been used to the salient feature novel ecosystem as we began to define it was that they were practically unrestored. So that's what made them so difficult to wrestle with. It wasn't that we might not want to restore them. it's just that we couldn't restore them and that's because you had Persistent invasive species that made that job very difficult we had altered soil conditions or altered atmospheric conditions that would just constrain what that ecosystem could do. So you might restore until you're blue in the face and you're not gonna get back. You could invest millions of dollars into restoring an ecosystem can not have it go back. How do we how do we assess that though. I guess question that. I have moving into this. This part is how can you tell in advance that you have no hope of restoring something. That's the question inherent in that definition on the flip side. It's like functionality right like the functionality conversation we had earlier was important. Because it's like what do you mean by functional and similarly with this question. It's like what do you mean by impossible. So it's not the composition or the constituents of the ecosystem that necessarily makes it novel. It's just that it's almost impossible to restore to whatever we think. It was historically. Yes that's and it's functional. And that's the other thing about 'cause systems as we might think of them pejoratively but they are ecologically functional. They are delivering ecosystem services and in some cases people either prefer them or they like aspects of them. and so. that's what makes it. so dastardly. Right really complicated. So they're they're resilient to change the got a lot of inertia yeah and i think a good straightforward definition of this comes from a twenty fourteen paper by moore said l. They define novel ecosystems this way novel. Eco-system is a unique assemblage of barter and environmental conditions that is the direct result of intentional or unintentional alteration by humans that is human agency sufficient across an ecological fresh oil that facilitates a new eco-system trajectory and inhibits. Its return to a previous trajectory. Regardless of additional human intervention the resulting mecca system must also be self sustaining in terms of species composition structure barra geochemistry and eco-system system services defining characteristic of the novel eco system is a change in species composition relative to eco-systems present in the same bomb prior to crossing a threshold. Okay i think. I think i get it but i'm gonna need another example sure okay. So in addition to eucalyptus forests in the bay area of There's another example in the moore's paper they refer to these abandoned shrimp ponds in thailand. Okay yeah they described this area that used to be titled mangrove forest and then was converted to aquaculture ponds to grow shrimp but Some of these have been abandoned and when they're no longer attended the elevated walls on the sides of the puns ten to prevent the tides from coming into wash over the whole area and so the soils become dry and they become sailing because of all of the salt water evaporating in them and these hallo finnick or salt loving plant communities get established and so when researchers went in and tried to restore the mangrove forests on top of these. Old aquaculture patents. The trees just wouldn't grow and even when they tried to restore the title regime. That allowed the trees to grow. They found that the ponds which just keep accumulating sediment and that basically like to restore the mangroves people would have to continuously excavate to try and create conditions favourable to the mangroves. Yeah no that. That doesn't sound like a practical solution. Yeah i mean basically impossible to restore a novel. Ecosystems occur all over the world and in many forms but the thing that unites them is that they are functional and functionally unrestrainable and this makes them tricky. There's a sort of a moral entanglement with with novel. Ecosystems that makes them particularly difficult for us to process because novel ecosystems are are free flowing in the sense that they are doing their thing with often without a lot of human input after the initial disturbance but they arise true hidden disturbance. So it's through. Our actions usually careless actions that result and systems that go off in different directions and form these novel assemblages. So what does then our responsibility i are. Are we responsible what what is our responsibility. It's kind of hard to draw clear boundaries around this concept like maybe maybe we can accept that in addition to oak woodlands and grasslands california will also have some really funky eucalyptus forest but what if climate change and fire suppression have turned the entirety of western north america into a novel ecosystem. That now has megafires all the time. Like can we accept that right. yeah or or what. If the cumulative effects of salmon farms and industrial fishing ocean acidification glaciers and hydroelectric dams and the loss of intertidal ecosystems. Like what if all those create novel conditions that salmon simply can't survive in anymore. I think most of us would say that plainly unacceptable. Yeah definitely unacceptable. But we might just not be able to fix some of those things at best. I think that the point of calling these things novel ecosystems is just to help us recognize what is and what isn't within our power to accomplish and you know. Allow us to prioritize the things that we can do and maybe step away from some of these you know novel. Ecosystems are colleges. That might actually just be fine on their own. Yeah you know this actually reminds me of the serenity prayer to accept all those things that you can't change and to find the courage to change those things that you that you can because there are a lot of places that are more damaged and also potentially more restorative right like we we could actually give them some continuity with past ecosystems. You know should we be trying to reflect historically continuous ecosystems. Absolutely should we be experimenting with bold new nature based solutions to try to bring you know or functional systems into our cities definitely. Do we have to accept and work with novel systems. yes we need to do all these things simultaneously. And that's what's important right now is figuring that out and I'm pretty passionate about restoration. And i see lots of value in a more orthodox practices and that will continue to be the case even under conditions of fairly significant change. But there's all these other practices whether it's rewinding forest landscape restoration or green infrastructure ecological design and agroforestry and so on that are similar impulses. That are really important. Press to engage. So there's a lot of paths to follow. And i take after eric in that. I think that as restoration ests. We have to embrace a broad spectrum of practices and possibilities as long as ecological integrity and historical continuity are embedded in there somewhere and by historical continuity. I don't necessarily mean a nostalgic adherence to a prior ecological state like. We were talking about in the last episode. Historical knowledge is not universal. That comes to us through many voices and many different streams and so it matters. We tend to focus a lot on history as reference and restoration. But you can have history of social justice and history as As a kind of sperm of knowledge that access a kind of break on our wilder ambitions. You can have History as a kind of model of the future. There's all sorts of different purposes in ways in which history functions restoration that when you take seriously yeah recognition. That history isn't unique vocal. That's that's key especially if we do want the full diversity of human cultures to be reflected in our landscapes. Yeah and if we don't have to have things to be a certain way allows us to recognize opportunities that we might otherwise overlook for example. What if the eucalyptus ellen for us that i described wasn't just functional but was also helping to decontaminate the land that it was on like what. If some of these hyper colleges actually hold the keys to adapting to novel conditions. Maybe they're trying to tell us something if we listen to them. Yeah and so. I want to return to oliver one more time. Because he's been looking for solutions in unlikely places or you could say the most likely places. Yeah i'm interested in garbage. I find garbage fascinating. And you know obviously you know on some level it's revolting but but i'm fascinated by the layers sort of palim sast of kind of human existence like we've always created like some sort of detritus right so the first nations here have mittens and some of the mittens go back. Thousands of years people were living in in areas for longtime. So that's like shells and stuff. They didn't want any more bones and so forth so that's garbage Bit perhaps more aesthetic garbage but it's still garbage and it tells you about what things people valued what kind of food day. what they what. What sort of material conditions they existed under and what what sort of passed through their lives pass through there literally their digestive tract or or what they made and what they used so interested in that and currently you know we we live in a kind of garbage fear. We literally you know where we're at peak garbage where we're throwing so much stuff out. We're not recycling much and most of the materials used are either fossil fuel based or similarly unsustainably source so we materials now that are extremely persistent in the system. so i'm fascinated by what that says about our Our sense of the future. We are kind of living in our own filth especially climatically you know if you if you do consider carbon dioxide to be garbage or a pollutant our own personal garbage fear. It probably wouldn't surprise you if i told you that oliver is right at home on a garbage planet. Right not surprised from very early on. Actually i have one more picture to share with you here. It is so this is this is an early art installation that oliver did at a gallery in toronto. that was in an industrial neighborhood with really contaminated soils. Yeah he planted a garden of sunflowers and In the photo you can just see him with sunglasses. Standing there watering the sunflowers. And there's a big sign beside them and it says eat and get lead a healthy crop but yeah wow it's a. It reminds me of that. That john carpenter movie They live where it has such an intensely. John carpenter vibe. You're right are you gonna. are you gonna unpack. They live a little bit but the the main character finds a box of sunglasses that When he puts them on they let him see the surface of of advertising and marketing this corporate world. And all of these billboards just have this propaganda written in this bold font and it looks just like that this the son of direct stay asleep unmistakable. Obey threatening eat and get led easily get let. It's almost like an instruction right like it's not even a warning. It's it's a it's an inducement. Yeah i i really love this picture. It's scary. I love it but the cool thing is that sunflowers are actually known to accumulate lead. So this is this is an art installation but it's also another one of his botanical interventions. And maybe one of the earliest ones. Because he could actually harvest the sunflowers once. They were mature and dispose of them elsewhere. And that would actually pull the lead out of these soils so read. So he's doing bioremediation or fight. Oh remediation back in. what what. You're taking nine thousand nine hundred eighty eight. Wow and as you know quite directly plants are not the only organisms that can detoxify the environment around them. there's so many other processes like fungal processes where you can use fun guide of via remediate contaminated to landscapes or plants to fight or remediate. And so even though you know we're living in a kind of disastrous sort of state of contamination you know nature does develop mechanisms to address it contamination. So i'm fascinated by by these disturbed post industrial landscapes. Where can might be able to find. You know a turkey tail mushroom so mendel. Why would oliver find a post. Industrial turkey tail mushroom. so exciting. Like like sunflowers. Punchy are really useful for that heavy metal contamination. In an hyper accumulating that their bodies And there's one particular process that oliver picked up on. That has totally blown my mind. I'm downtown my mind blown. I'm working on a project with my students at parsons where we're composting styrofoam which is a new big waste product. It's very hard to recycle the piles all over new york city. So i'm composting it using mealworm so common little meal worms in the star foam. The deep palmar is it and they turn it into couples. Are you serious. Yeah the gut. Bacteria meal worms has been shown to break styrofoam down into biodegradable waste. That's amazing do an awesome. It's so fun and easy. Use your roommates and scared color. Possibly so you get star phone right just wherever and you get from a pet store right and they eat it like. How cool is that right and not only do they eat it. They d polymer is it so. They how symbiotic gut flora. It breaks down the polystyrene. Right because paulie starring is is starring molecules nuclear and the break it down into humans right. So how cool is that giant pile of a storage locker full styrofoam and i turned into a bucket for companies. But they really go for the one worse. Better wounded eating it. This is my party in new york. But i sleep at nine will be it's This little late containers like like wait. Wait and on that note mental. Can i show you something okay. Sure you're doing all our hammer thing doing the hammer thing. And are they going. Yeah they're totally here for a sec. Wild are they in the block right. now they're just too and right through that look like they've got like a little hotel you know it's still allowed mazing. I've never really been much of a pet person but this totally captured my fancy kind of. They're a little bit more like livestock than pets. Yeah they seem pretty hands off. Oliver always knows how to take things to the next level too. Like he's not just using the meal worms to compost styrofoam. He's also using them to marketable art for himself. But maybe an artist advising for angle pot can meet this work for me so i now make these beautiful things that i sent to art galleries in europe. Which are garbage. That i feed the meal worms bill for their done little stands and they become like chinese scholar stones that you have like formal gardens and then these beautiful exquisite still people uses objects. Meditation accomplish big star. So oh oh you know. They remind me of sea sponges. Almost like i. It's interesting because they're subtractive right. they're not additive. Oh my god. And he's got the meal worms in these containers. Of course part of this is like the the mealworm performance right. it's not just the product it's the action And just to bring things full circle. You remember oliver's dad from the beginning yes you know what he did for a living. No i have no idea going back to this business about my father. My late late father. He worked in a styrene factory and You know one of the precursors to styrofoam and as a kid is to come home. And his coveralls were just reeking of like burn coffee cup smell and his pores would smell of burnt styrene and later on had cancers and so forth. Visiting one of my earliest memories is smelling. burn styrene. and i'm probably part styrene myself. I probably conceived in styrene fog. So it's the sort of poetic justice that the material that i've i've been sort of you know. Struggling with my entire life has now being turned into soil by these insect owning. Yeah yeah. I like the poetry of that the poetry of decay so relating back to novel ecosystems. What what. I'm hearing to your point. Is that if we pay attention to these places and let them evolve we. We might actually learn a thing or two. I mean people are always saying that we should preserve the amazon rainforest because it's full of potentially lifesaving medicines that we could study and replicate and maybe exploit right so why not also preserve some of these hyperbolic colleges these novel ecosystems possible that they might have a thing or two to teach us about living in future colonies. So i know that we weren't able to address who gets to create ecosystems and who's ecosystems might be considered legitimate or worth protecting no. I think that'll have to be its own series but if we set aside formal restoration projects you could say that we're all ecosystem engineers in our own ways. I mean we all have some impact on the world around us and if you think like oliver even the litterbugs among us are making their own contributions to the garbage fear that we all inhabit together. I mean we can't avoid playing some part in that. And i think if i have one overarching takeaway from these conversations with oliver and eric that that you've brought to me i guess it's that we shouldn't retreat. We shouldn't be afraid of becoming more intentional. Shapers of our surroundings from getting involved in the pen species direct democracy of all of these ecological processes because these are kind of scary right now in the world retrea. They're like. Oh my god i'm gonna live in a log cabin surrounded by barbed wire into being the basement with my calls leading lunch and with my case where he's up pickles. That's that's universal. You know kaminsky. You don't want be that and do that. What we need is an advance retreat right so we gotta go into areas that are crazy and then we got to try to fix things so so wonderful principles that i love is go onto the areas that are most disturbed most screwed up the need. Don't don't always go to pristina rate. The rainforest doesn't need you to it's fine. You need to go into. I asked oliver about this later. Because in some ways. I'm also attracted to damage. I love being in healthy ecosystems. But when i come home typically i'm i'm stranded by landscape. That has lots of visible signs of damage. And it's actually these damaged places where i feel like i can make a difference as a person and in some ways that makes them feel like home to me even though i live on gallon island which i think. Most people perceive as relatively undisturbed. It's true and i prefer to work and live in some ways. I did live on cortes island for many years which which was similarly beautiful. But i do think now that i'm older. I'm much more drawn to living in ecology of disturbance. Where i feel. I can make a difference in terms of improving the relationships between people in the landscape in ways. That are You know constructive without you can't do too much more harm than when you're in a brownfield. It's like it's already pretty. You know there's a lot of work that you can do that you're not having to agonize quite so much. Because most most things will be a slight improvement. I mean if i could make a quick introduction here churn yeah i would say These abject spaces seem seem more ripe for possibility. And that's like your neighborhood. Right isn't industrial neighborhood. It's a sandbox. it's a it's a place to play around and see what sticks and you don't have to worry about destabilizing functional system. Yeah and in terms of creativity. One of the words that eric uses in nature by design to describe. Ecological restoration is enlightened meddling. Which i think he totally forgot about so i. I ended up in our conversation. Lighten meddling yeah. I suppose. I mean it's just that my experience with restoration is that i like to think that i have all these goals and objectives and specific methods and you put all this into place and you rain it in scientifically and so on but there is always just about every restoration project there is also a little bit of meddling a little bit of like what if i try that over there. I wonder if that would work mental. I'm not sure if you know this. But twenty twenty one will be the first year in the united nations decade on ecosystem restoration. It's almost like you planned this whole series for just the occasion is actually a happy accident. All of which is to say. There's lots of good work to do out there. And i think this is a time that calls for dare i say it. Don't you dare say it. Some audacity up All right dear listeners. That's it for this series and four twenty twenty. Let's bid this year a fond farewell together. Shall we thanks for sticking with us through this fairly head. Easier ways are episodes in the new year will be something completely different. Something novel perhaps. Why not happy novel year to you. Happy new year to you mendel. Happy novel year. Thanks for listening. This has been an independent production of future ecology. He's this episode was produced by myself. Adam huggins n me mendel. School ski in this episode. You heard oliver cal hammer and dr. Eric higgs oliver teaches at parsons school of design at the new school and you can learn about his many projects at oliver k dot org. Eric teaches at the university of victoria. And is the author of several books including nature by design people natural processes and ecological restoration. He also added the volume novel ecosystems intervening in the new world order. You can learn about his work at eric. Higgs dot ca. We'll be back next month please. Rate and review feature colleges. Where ever you can. 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