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"sam trigger" Discussed on On Point with Tom Ashbrook | Podcasts
"The only way to prevent that is really taking away at least heart of their rights now at massachusetts we have limited guardianship arrangements which other states that are under the uniform. Probate code do as well. So you can in that sort of the the the one of the so many questions or any spheres case like i said it's a fluctuating capacity case. And that's a very difficult course to deal with because a person can become capable again but certainly she should not be under full service as she definitely has certain capabilities. Can i missing target. Forgive me for interrupting you and sam. I'm gonna come back to you in just a second but we've got a really terrific question. That's just come to us. Over social media from listener lizzy lou who wants to wonder what percentage of those in conservatives ships are women because the stories were hearing today reminds lizzy of the old hysteria diagnosis that allowed men to send their wives away to institutions patricia. Do we have an answer to that. So we we do and because it is known as a women's issue mom because women live statistically lager than men often don't connect with you know statistically men often will get remarried in women's specifically won't necessarily so they end up alone so there is a much higher percentage of women that are in this type of our subject to guardianship of conservatives. I don't know the exact statistic my head off the top of my head but it is considered a women's issue. Okay so sam trigger. Wanna talk with you. You both you and patricia about what needs to be fixed but first of all again. We actually heard quite a bit from listeners. On this here is teri who called us from southeast michigan and described a case where a local elderly couple were placed in the care of an external conservative ship or one outside of the family and terry told us that the conservatives sealed off that couple from their relatives their families were not allowed to be in contact with them. They use the the old couples money in order to build a fence so that the children and relatives couldn't even peak around. You know and and talk to them now sam so where are areas in this system that are. Actually that can be fixed. And let's talk about florida for a second where you are. Because i understand a couple of years ago rhonda santa's even said that there needs to be some kind of governmental oversight over the registered guardians and this was as of two or three years ago. There were more than five hundred registered guardians in florida and at the time. The state said that there were more than one hundred and thirty open investigations into alleged wrongdoing. So has there been progress. Made on that on those professional guardians so the yes there has been progress and for example yesterday at a hearing The former guardian tracy has the samuels was given nineteen additional. Felonious counts Just today the fbi released indictments of of a notorious guardian in pennsylvania. And we're seeing more and more of those Law enforcement actions but on the positive side. And again i just wanna say not. Every guardianship is terrible. there are plenty of good ones. That's the way it's supposed to be. But that's what makes these awful one so agree gis. I'd like to say they were outliers. But our information based on surveys anecdotal information seems to indicate that of the totality of guardians ships across the country as many as nine to twelve percent of them are in one way or another corrupt. So the question is what do you do. There are many of us in the advocacy community. Who are advocating for the abolishment of the entire system. It's unlikely that that will happen. But there are alternatives to guardianship such as supported decision. Making which instead of appointing an individual substitute decision maker guardian creates a circle of trust around the individual who needs help and that circle of trust advises and guides the individual so that their own decisions can be executed properly and safely. There is a program in florida called elder carrying ordination Which involves the use of social workers to intervene before. Guardianship is created and in oregon There is an organization that has created a whole army of volunteers to work with the court to go out and assess the status of questionable guardian ships. So there definitely is with with more and more exposure of the issue. There are alternatives to guardianship. Personally i think ardian ships isn't ossified antiquated old world way to deal with the twenty first century problem of vulnerable people with assets. And even if you don't have a lot of money or a big house even if you're poor you still have lots of money that can be purloined in a guardianship such as medicare such as trusts such as the value of your little home or your social security check or your pension. There's a lot of money in guardianship and for my two cents. Removing the financial incentive to litigate and drag these cases out is what it will take for the guardianship system to once again do it. It was designed to do to guard the vulnerable while patricia. Keat right patricia keane martin. You want to respond to some of these alternative ideas. Well yes in all of the for the most part. My experience has been that courts in attorneys who practice in this area prefer if there are alternatives like supported decision making in non crisis clamming The court is not a place to deal with. Mental health and capacity issues is a legal answer to a medical situation right. So we're talking very much about the legal situation but of course it's based on the person's mental health so is by its nature an imperfect system so to the extent that you can keep it out of the course like support decision making massachusetts. We have a bill that is pending to try to make that in some ways Alive if possible than than than they should have said that. I just it has not been my experience that the money heart of the practice is why people go into this practice it is for the most part socially minded people who are trying to do thankless jobs very difficult in stressful situations And it ended in maybe get compensated at some lower level. There are of course always situations of extremes and in a case like britney were there is this short shades of gray of capacity that people are fighting about there will be a prolonged litigation I think the court needs to deal. With more oversight. I think in these better coordination with the medical community i would love to have separate Expedited hearings with a judiciary. That's trained in mental health. But that's all wishful thinking has a just. It's it's a budgetary issue ultimately And i absolutely hear that right because it seems like whenever we talk about the legal the legal judicial system in this country and when it has to deal with issues that may be about diminished capacity mental health. The true answers like lie outside the court. Right In terms better support for people outside the court and i think we're all in agreement on that but we just have one minute left to go and salmon wanna. I'm going to give you the last word on this. Because one thing about brittany's case which i do wonder about is the question of okay want someone is in a conservative ship and if it becomes abusive what is their way to improve the system such that those conservatives can be better monitored because otherwise they are the voice to the court to the outside world and the person under the conservative ship does not seem to have a way to to say this is not working we just have thirty seconds but is there a way to fix that. I always say the best guardianship is the one that never happens. There needs to be legislation. There needs to be a recognition on the part of the supreme court in every state and at the department of justice that there are crimes being committed throughout the country and guardianship and until that happens and until the court is makes it easier to end guardianship as does start them. That.
"sam trigger" Discussed on Fun with Bells - bell and handbell ringing interviews
"Could you put it? He always pushed US pushed us. Quite hard pushes caught so I rang my first pill in February and a couple of months later. I'd repeal enjoy that that's how he inspired us and then I went to University Warwick and obviously I'm near Birmingham so road pipe and Peter Boarder. Just great friends. An fantastic ringers. Pita told me how during heavy battles I wanted to be heavy bell ring. An was a bit like you you you you have your football or cricketing heroes and you think you never meet them. And when I read the ringing world so released fantastic names and I met them and they became friends. Isn't that fantastic Peter? Petri inspired me to do all sorts of things raining heavy bells and I was really lucky. I I ran the tenure Liverpool single hands to appeal twenty S and. I think I was the second person today. Any firm YUP say well done boy. He always call me boy. And then we'll tie well a legend Just inspiring drink coming His Son David. Equally talented and brilliant. And we're all family friends superheroes also my friends So Oh the things we did in Birmingham fantastic and the hardest thing I've ever done in ringing was give the tribute at Rhodes funeral a fantastic on absolutely fantastic thing today. And chatting wrecking and I was typical to road pressure. Right up to the end and so many others among my best friend David Brown. Just just fantastic but will. I love seeing now as a generation of Rina's coming through who have so much talent and obscene my loan. Thanks records broken. Mitch's fantastic said people always pushing the boss the heroes on only the ones who are in the past. But you can see the new heroes coming along by Tom. Hanks and Jack Page just phenomenal. Talent absolutely phenomenal so long may continue so here is heroes on. Aren't just people in the past? There are people in the future as well. Marcus there anything else that you wanted to cover that. We haven't covered there is I think I think one of the A one. What ringing ringing Disney the law change and I think we need to get past the institutions bitch all belong to the past to move forward and say this I mean ringing associations and say they have to change it just these boundaries county boundaries boundaries on relevant anymore the whale was very. I have more in common with rings and Adelaide. Then I do twenty miles down the road in Worcestershire. So I think that's important in how we read we have too many boundaries. Nothing they stop as moving forward and I think the next thing that's really important in ringing serious leadership and just leading large groups of people in leading the engagement with the church engagement Moscow's engagement with communities and that's a massive responsibility and I think it's starting to happen because that's one of the great benefits of social media that we all hooked up and people practice but it will always be slightly controversial because I think 'cause ringing is site based in tradition it sometimes sensitive oversensitive to change. So that's that's that's something I think about a lot. What do you think can be done? Well hopefully hopefully I get it right. We have a fantastic bandit was succeed. Joins about my think forty. I can never quite count everybody. And we have a young ringers and de very talented and my cat is for them to do things. And it's not just ringing pills ringing. Heavy battles is about leading people teaching ringing and every other week. I don't run the practice on the other rings. They do it. They may come to meeting with me about something with the Cathedral. So that saying the scope of the job because I think twenty percent of my time is in the ringing room. The rest is outside and so set about succession tool. So that is a fantastic place to be was pushing pushing to do more. And aband- has a set of shared values. And that's very team thing. So firstly the ringing room is safe. And then it's welcoming and everyone puts we before I am not so valued set which which I think can be adopted every way about we let Sam as radical. I think you know to to to to look up. We've got a most delightful young ring code. Sam Trigger. Who is who was ten a couple of weeks ago and about a year ago he found a little note off the towers where the towers stewards saying. I love your bells. Som- triggered A. I think he was at eight south to well. That's really sweet. And then his mum and dad go in touch with US and some trigger now age ten strapped Liverpool Cathedral. Ten with me. The young ring is competition me Ranga Cathedral and so I asked his mum said has he landed yet said about a about Thursday or Friday. He might come and it's moments like that. That is doable. Now we if we can teach ringing if we can have teaching central Sedro and do what we do. It was too. You can do anything anyway. I think that's what I'm saying. There are many twenty towers with a ten over forty eight hundred eight hundred fifty towers but twelve bells. So I'm living rarefied world and it's a real privilege and it's it's an enormous responsibility now. That ten year old boy can go to the cathedral and but he wasn't just on his own. He was with loads of other young ringers. Having a chance to bring on this great heavier bows and all credit to matt and Len Luke Stage and David Hull for they did that was just fantastic. And that was inspiring. They'll all go away with fantastic memories and have this belief you I can ring. There is not summit special and they come and ring. It was dangerous because all young ring is unfazed by was to Cathedral. I mean they really hard touring. They're just phased so I think that's how it's especially empowering that's the idea anyway apart from the task irregularly ring at what are your favorite ring of bells and Y has to be scenario And then and then lightened budget. However tomorrow I'M GOING DOWN TO COON. Flory which is in Somerset Natanson. And there are a lovely Taylor sex and his way evening. War is buried is one of my favorite writers again. I dislike going to unusual places like that but there are so many fantastic sales in this country and I think we all is such a privileged have access to all these fantastic places that that there will favorites. And if they're not in. Good NICK THEM UP. If they're really awful re cost them at their really historic. Keep them so all of it or whatever. I'm what remarkable things have happened to you. That wouldn't have happened if you hadn't taken it bell ringing. Oh the people without a doubt. The friendships the community the Sabrina Cool Acadia ups and downs. Sometimes that's very rab. The enormous support. You have an much. Children might be happy about for Bell. Ringing. So that's why is it is it. Is People the friendships. We talked about heroes earlier amid massive people in my life absolutely massive. And they do not and I say continue is always always people.