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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Delmar for an open 25,000 and almost stole a race, like leaded mid stretch and just got nabbed late. But I think just a little bit over matched here as much as I want to root for the locals Quinn howey in company, but yeah, really fun race. Like I said, I thought you could make a case for quite a number in here, even though nardini is certainly a logical wind contender and tip top gal. I think is certainly logical contender as well. There's a lot of horses in here. I think that with a good trip or a move forward can make some noise. And like I said, it's a really, really great sequence in general, those late sequences at Golden Gate on Saturday. I will be I will be up watching them. But my only turf allowance is the tenth race that follows that one and clearly God Jonathan Wong sources the favorite and been competing pretty well at that level, but there's some other nice Phillies in there. So just a cool sequence. Check it out if GGF is not a track you follow. I do think it's a good card on Saturday. So we're gonna wrap up this edition of the program. Big thanks to you guys for joining us all week long. Big thanks to Darren so Cali who joined us early in the week. You can find all of our previous shows wherever you find your podcast. They usually I know Apple keeps the last hundred on there, but spreaker has most of our catalog and the edge of that to inspires has all of our old catalogs. You can always find the episodes on there. Chris Amy joined us this week. Sam Sherman yesterday really appreciate everybody who came on and you know around the holidays I usually reduce the guest load because I just don't want to bug people to the holidays but next week I feel like it's still far enough before the holidays. So we'll probably do guests next week and probably not so many guests the week of Christmas. And then we always do a year in review the week after Christmas so I always look forward to that. It's kind of fun to go back and look at all the things that went down in the stakes races and all that kind of stuff. So that's kind of what we got coming up here as we finish up the year 2021 on the JB HRP. A big thanks to you guys for listening. We'll recap all of it on Monday. You guys have a good.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"So don't do that on the Internet, by the way. That's just people trying to make themselves feel smarter kind of thing or just and like I said, they're great examples, but it's just not my method of doing things. But I'll use their examples. I'm just not going to shame them in particular. So don't tag me and ask me to do that. But, as I said, I mean, if it's a bad ticket, you engage them. They're going to tell you, no, no, it won. It's good. Result already people, and then they'll also say, but what if it came in with the second choice over my horse, but the big 50 to one was right there. What if he would have won? Well, yeah, what if? You know, he might have. And if he did, is he going to do that 50th time or 80th time or whatever because you need to by the way. The 51 shot can win a lot of times and the favorite doesn't run second, then you got nothing. You blew your 50 to one. Which, you know, whatever. I don't know. I've noticed that a lot of times the people who are very results oriented, even when they win it's their smart and when they lose its but what if this happened? Their ticket chalks out and you say, and you know, you might say, well, you spent $36 and you made 24, like that's bad. You won and you still lost. And they'll go, but what about if the 7 come out? Yeah. I mean, the 7 couldn't one there, but what they fail to realize is, you know, how often it is going to chalk out also how often it's going to pay enough to be maybe even money or something or at best 5 to two and you don't want to have to get four or 5 legs right or three horses in a row for three to one, like that's just way too difficult to have happen to get three to one. Anyways. All right, well I'm done. I hope you guys are done. I hope you guys enjoyed talking with Sam Sherman. I sure did. We'll look forward to tomorrow's show. Excited to do a little weekend. Previewing. And I will see you guys back tomorrow. Everybody have a great rest of your Thursday..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Which they had to do, right? Yeah, they had no choice, but they don't do that. They don't win. And the person who got third had a 20 to one shot and the 6th race when he had a $0 bankroll. So it's a frustrating to get in that situation where it's not live money. I think if it was live money, maybe they don't just go all in on a 17 to one shot in the last race. A little more realistic when it's not just I paid a $100 to enter this contest. That money is gone. I have to pick the August on the board. I hope it comes in. So that's frustrating to lose and those sort of situations, but at the same time, the horse is 17 to one for reasons. This was the one out of 17 times that you got caught. Top the leaderboard. It seems like that happens to me more often. Well, we always win a lot of 17 times but that's quick. You're obviously a Sam Houston guy, we talk to you, I think before the same Houston media. Not that far away from that season getting started. You excited as a horse player and an owner? Yeah, I can't wait, so they open up the backside last week. I think training today was the first day. So we're getting pretty close. I think it starts January 6th. They're going to do some afternoon and evening cards. Hopefully, the handle will be the same as it has. I mean, Texas racing over the last couple of years has really taken off since they decided to increase the first money. I mean, basically all the purses are like 2.5 times what they used to be they did an interesting way. There's no welfare or casino welfare in Texas, what they did is they decided to allocate 25 million from taxes on horse products like feed and whatever and the taxes on those have just gone to the purses. So it's interesting that they've been able to increase the purses to it. I think at this point they're like 80% of fairgrounds purses just by taxing or speed basically. The reallocating that money. So yeah, I'm really excited, kind of already mapped out the first condition book and it'll be making some claims of Remington to bring some horses to Houston. Looking forward to hopefully successful meeting. Sam Sherman our guest here on the program and you can find Sam in his Twitter where he tweets about his tournaments at Sherman underscore Sam I really appreciate takes a 5 four. Thanks so much. Thanks for having me, Jason. I love fun. All right, we'll be right back after a short time out of the situation being horse racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. This is the Jason beam horse racing podcast, brought to you by twin spires. All right, big thanks to Sam Sherman for joining us on this horse player Thursday. Always fun to talk about a nice tournament score or big score from somebody. I like hearing about those. You guys always send me your big licks and it's fun to read about. It's not who was I talking with this about. Oh man, now I'm gonna forget, but somebody we were talking about they were at the track and a guy like stuck his ticket in his face that he had had a winner. Like I said, you know, I love hearing from you guys, you know, your wins and all this stuff. But like, is there anything worse than if you're at the track or the OTB and somebody just sticks a ticket right in your face, especially if you are not winning? Oh, I think it was my buddy my name's Matt. I was talking to. We went to dinner. He's done here in Tampa, which at dinner after the race is Friday and I think it was him. He was talking about. Yeah, it was fact it was him because he was talking about a guy who his big strategy is he bets all on the exact over the favorite. And of course, the one time Matt Stanley with him there he gets a 22 to one shot. He was like, she works all the time. And I'm thinking, well, first of all, you're going to lose a locks, favorites going to win a third of those pets, and then the favorite's not going to run second. Maybe even another third or more of that. Okay, you're going to hit this bet, whatever percentage of the time. And what happens when you invested $10 or whatever and it comes in the second choice, third choice fortune because they're going to win a majority of those races. I was just glad I didn't have to argue with the guy. Because when you get into an argument with someone who is very results oriented, a lot of times their argument is just what if. And or this happened, this worked. You know, you'll see someone put up a ticket that's, you know, let's say an exact all over the favorite. And there might be a field of ten, you know, you're talking about 9 combinations, right? So there could be two or three that you break even or, you know, I mean, you're probably not going to lose money with the favorite beaten for $9. I'm just a $1 exact. I mean, in a field of ten, you're probably going to make money on all of them, but you'll probably make a little if it's the second choice you'll probably make a little more, obviously it was the third of the fourth choice. But you're probably not getting again, depends on what they are, the situation, but you're probably not getting more than $20 for your dollar. So at best, a little over even money, 6 to 5, 7 to 5. And then obviously, as the bigger priced ones come in, you can make a little more. But a lot of people do back wheel the favorite in exactness. And so when they hit the 30 to one shot that wins and they win and they don't say they get back 65 bucks or 70 bucks or whatever. Great, you got a 7 O one. Happy for you and stuff like that. But you know I would say it's long term not a very good bet because like I said, a third of the time, the favorite's gonna win, maybe more depends. But, you know, so right there, this ticket is a loser 30% of the time for the favorite winning. He's gonna run at third or worse. A good chunk of the time. And then when you hit a decent shot of the time, you're barely gonna make any money. So it's just like, to me, it feels like a bad long-term bet. But if you try to tell someone that after they've hit for 70 bucks or whatever it is, they get, they just, they're like, no, I just made $70. And it's like, I understand that. And first of all, I would never go up and say that to anybody. I'm not here to lecture people to their faces or you know I get people to tag me on Twitter like oh look at this guy's ticket I'm not gonna bash somebody's ticket to their face or in public that's just being a dick. I'll use I'll use tickets, for example, but I'm not gonna degrade the person and call them out and stuff like that..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"It's kind of the reason why I decided to play the contest. Which one did you take? So I was thinking about it, asked a couple of people like Nick Camaro and trace dials. He does the Houston guy. Yeah. Kind of as both responded pretty quick and said, I would be an idiot to take anything other than film. Yeah. Because it's real money. Yeah. So that's going with. I looked at the Belmont betting challenge of last year. So $10,000 buy in and it was kind of a really similar tournament. 45 entries and the winner only had like $25,000. So it looks like something that would be accessible to try to win other than the very kind I talked about the breeders cup betting challenge. I just don't think I'd have any chance whatsoever. Yeah, I mean, that's the BC BC. Those are deep water. Sure, the Belmont contest is too though, because of the players you're getting in there. I mean, you aren't getting a lot of the cream of the crop type. I went to that just to visit in 2019. I think it was. I mean, I was sitting a couple of guys that are considered some of the best tournament players around him. I had a friend who qualified like from a, you know, like a feeder kind of thing and he's like, you got any advice? I was like, well, have you ever turned 7000 into 80,000? And he's like, no, I okay, well, that's what you're gonna have to do. If you're gonna win. You know, and I always talk about with these tournaments. I mean, you know, to some degree, the money has to not matter because it's hard to, you know, it is hard to make a $6000 wind bet. You know, unless unless maybe 6000 doesn't quite matter. I mean, I never want to assume somebody's finances, but, you know, that's that's a big bet to make. Yeah, I think you're right. I went into it just thinking that the two entries were just lost, that I would come out with $0 remaining. Yes, for your buddy, who won the $10,000 entry with through a feeder, like you I don't want to assume anyone's finances, but if you're kind of winning through a feeder and get ten grand, it's like a win, right? It's a win. You won your ten grand, versus some of these hardcore excellent tournament players. They're going to buy $10,000 entries and have like I did. It's not care if they just lose 2020 grand. So that's kind of what you're up against in those big contests. I'd be surprised if people only won the theaters really ever won those type of things just because like you said, Tony Zhou, I think this is name. I mean, I don't know if you watch the races. I know he has his computer program discussed. Money for him. He's always claimed you can't read the past performances. That's one of its one of his many claims. Right. I've seen his computer set up. It's pretty intimidating, so I'm not surprised that he does well. With the cigar bar in the background. Tony's the van. Well, it was fun to watch play. I appreciated that you kind of posted along as you were going. Obviously, once you took the lead out of the first race, it got a little more interesting and it was kind of neat to just because you know the tournaments I've said this before. They'll have even the wind place show or the wind place ones. You know, when they have the big ones, like they are fun to watch and watch play out and I think they're a really interesting mental exercise because it is a little different, right? I mean, it still horse playing, it's still math and money and all that kind of stuff, but to me there's a, there's a competition aspect to it that I think is just fun. There's a game theory this to it. I just think it's kind of a neat branch of our little world here. I do, too. I think it's interesting when it's not just bunch people just trying to hit 20 to one long shots that just get lucky and kind of when you start, I feel like when it's live money until you get down to the last couple of races, it's not just someone saying, oh, I need a 20 to one twin. So I'm going to pick the better of the two 20 to one shots. Like some of these online tournaments where it's just the $2 wind place where you buy and for a hundred bucks if you just get down to sometimes of a 20 to one win the last race if someone who hasn't been doing well all day, that's really only chance they have to win. I agree with you watching watching the game theory aspect there's a lot of fun. That's why I enjoy that the breeders cup publishes the picks of everyone who's in the betting challenge. I've kind of gone through those before. It's interesting to see the strategy of the really sharp horse players and how they kind of navigate that two day contest. There's not a lot of wasted money plays. In those contests, that makes sense. Everyone, there's a reason why everyone makes a bet. I remember I think listening to you talk to Marshall Graham and he said that he keeps a ledger of every single bet he makes throughout the entire year. I've started trying to do something similar and I've really noticed the return on investment. Increase a lot just by keeping keeping track of something. And the reason I decided to do that was just looking at the breeders cup. Betting challenge the printout of everyone's bets that they make. So you agree with the game theory aspect of all these tournaments is really interesting. And even if you're not using the information for tournament play, I think it was really help your general handicapping on a random Wednesday by just taking some aspects of people respect and putting those into your own place. Yeah, I've always said one of the beautiful things about to inspires is you can literally look up every bit you've made on the site for years and you know you can look at a buy bet type by track type and just get some decent information. And also, you know, I think it's a little bit of a look in the mirror kind of thing too, right? I think sometimes we're guilty of playing types or tracks that we're not good at, but we just keep playing them because we like them. Even though they're long-term results might not say we should. Right, and that's kind of why I've turned into just a win better. I've looked at every combination of plays that I've made and I am absolutely terrible at the pick four pick 5, 6 6s. I know the strategy that I should use. I can't do it. I just decided to not play those anymore. Same thing with exactness. I know I know the strategy by not just doing not doing things you shouldn't putting in a with some B's underneath, you know, that's not a winner and long run. I just can't do that. What I can do is try to identify a horse at a nice price, so I think it's going to win and then just make a win bet. And if horse wins, I get paid at the horse doesn't move on. So I agree with you being able to go back and look at your strengths and weaknesses. Something everyone should do in every aspect of their life, but it's really easy on these websites where you put in a date range. I just see everything that you've done. And that's kind of scary to go back and look at honestly. Just what the heck was I doing? I started doing it with my food diet journal. Turns out what Mike and ice for breakfast aren't good they say. Yeah. It's funny you mentioned deciding between the Belmont and the NHC. I saw Sunday you were in an NHC qualifier, took kind of a tough beat at the end. Yeah, that's kind of what I was going back to. The winter and second place to pick the longest shot on the board in the last race, who won..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Any trouble, kind of do the opposite back going for a while around the entire track and almost got beat that way, but that ended up working out. And then I was in first place and I kind of figured some people would be doing some crazy and trifecta is trying to come back and someone did. I think someone hit a $15,000 something. They didn't publish the bets, but someone had a $15,000 something in the last race. In the cigar mile. So I think I just did 2000 to win on American Revolution in that and that hit and that's kind of what propelled me to first place, which was pretty lucky because I thought about not doing anything in the last race, but I thought someone might hit something. Yeah, I want to kind of get into the strategy that in a second, but I do want to go back once you hit with script you make the lead and obviously playing with the lead is a little bit different in some cases. You know that 6000 or whatever you were at was not going to be a winning score, most likely not going to be a winning score, but how do you go upon you know you like the horse in the demoiselles demos all was until the 9th race, right? So how do you go along as the days going on? You know you have to make a couple of plays in there. Did you already have those kind of pre planned or because I remember you tweeted something the effect is you got towards those last couple races like I didn't manage this lead very well. No, I did not. So I was watching with my wife for the entire day, which was odd because she does not care about horse racing even a little bit. I kind of told her, hey, if I hit this big wind bed on script, I think what I might do is just do a couple of show backs, basically, to try to preserve what I had and kind of see how other people progress and then what I end up doing was a win bet. And the third race in a the allowance optional on a turf who got third at 5 to one and then I did another wind bet on the $16,000 claimer direct order once again another horse I got third at about four to one. So I think if I could go back in time, I would have done something. I really don't know what I would have done differently. I just know that my strategy of just doing show bets to preserve the bankroll at kind of abandoned that got down to 6600. So 8900 to 6600 going into the Amazon side lost 2300 by just needing to get those bets and I guess. If there wasn't a minimum, you have to play 5 races. I would not have made any of those bets, I guess. Do you have to, when you get to the demoiselle, did you bet all of it on that first of all, was Sam two already out by that point or was he still around? Sam two was long gone. I just did a couple of, like I said, different strategy did a couple of exact trifectas do it the minimum races just didn't really really hit any of them. So I think was what a lot of people did. I saw just a lot of people going down 400 at a time, 2000 to 1600 to 1208 hundred. And I'm not a trifecta super. I'm really just a win better. So I don't. Some of these I would never do well in the breeders cup betting challenges because I'm not going to turn 7500 bucks into 200,000, just not. This is not what is going to happen. But I thought there is I think there's always 40 something entrance in this contest. I don't think that the winning number would be astronomical. And if it was, I'm great. Congratulations to a person who did that. But I thought if someone got to 20,000, I would probably be right where you needed to be to win. So now I did not go all in on the demoiselle. I had 6600 at 6000 to win on nest. I wanted to have at least some ammunition left to go into the last race to and you can play some triceps or something goopy. Exactly. So after the demoiselle though, of course, nest wins, you're just under three X ahead of everybody. I think you're at 17. You're being chased by a guy who's pretty respected the tournament. It's Tony Zhou who if he had around 6 and a half or something like that, you mentioned the $2000 win on American Revolution. I was almost wondering if the thought on that was, you know, if that horse wins and Tony has that horse to win, he may be jumped by a few. Was it kind of like jeopardy style where you just were gonna put yourself if the most logical winner wins, somebody's gonna have to catch me with big exact as or tries because they're not beat me with just a win. That's exactly I don't want to lose this contest if the favorite wins the last race. And I had enough bankroll to have that 2000 two and a half to 5 to two something like that. Okay, I'll get 7 back. And if I lose the two, then someone's gonna have to pull something weird like placement would have had to win and someone would have had to have that over something else. Yeah, it's kind of a jeopardy situation where I didn't want to lose the contest if the favorite one the last race. Does that make sense? Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah, there's a million things to think about and obviously I remember talking to somebody about the BC BC there was someone who was kind of way out in the lead on day one and like we literally went all in and normally guys hit the lead and they kind of take off the gas a little bit because you know everybody in that last race is coming out fire and for you. And the other thing is you kind of don't know what they're doing. You can handicap what you think they're gonna do, but you just essentially wanted to put yourself in a position where somebody was gonna have to get real aggressive real creative and real lucky to beat you, right? Like they're not gonna just beat you with a $4000 wind bet on the top top two choices. Exactly. And the top two three four choices are all pretty similar to od looking at the chart right now like 2.8 to one to 4.1 to one. So really if any of those four horses want to probably had some sort of trifecta to win with shit I might have been like a $1000 trifecta really. And there weren't that many people who had money left. Some kind of make that I think out of the 40 something. There are only ten people who could win unless something crazy happened like 27 to one over 1901 there. How many spots were they paying for the contest? Part of things. They paid the top 5. There really wasn't a ton of money in the prize pool. I think I got 14 something for winning and then 5th place got 2500 bucks. I was mainly playing to try to win either the NHC or the Belmont stakes challenge. Yeah. It's kind of the reason why I decided to play the contest. Which one did you take? So I was thinking about it, asked a couple of people like Nick Camaro and.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"In the great state of Texas in this past weekend he took home. The top honors in the $3000 buy in sakaar mile handicapping contest very happy to welcome back Sam. Sherman of the show, Sam, how are you? I'm great, Jason. Thanks for having me. Yeah, appreciate you coming on. Are we speaking to Sam Sherman one or two? I guess I'm both, but I think Sam Sherman won is the one who took down the contest over the weekend. I don't know, I don't know why I find that so it's just humors me like the idea because obviously everybody knows you have two entries and then you're number one and two, but you know a lot of people do play two entries the contest that's permitted in a lot of times and I imagine that there is obviously a specific strategy that goes into it. But where I joke about Sam Sherman one and two, I guess does Sam Sherman one get like the top pick and the best pick and the same Sherman two gets the leftovers. I mean, how does it work or does it really matter? They're just two separate entries, right? They're just two separate entries. I don't look at, I guess, the one versus two, but there's definitely different strategies with the two different entries. If there wasn't going to be a different strategy, really wouldn't make sense to buy two entries. Just do one. But yes, I had success in two live money contests this year at one one and they got second and one. So it's been beneficial to me to have both entries for sure. Well, I would think that initially and we'll talk, I guess about this more, but I guess we'll talk about it now. If I ask about it, you know, when you go into a tournament, obviously there's a little bit of a game plan, but I feel like everybody I've talked to by tournaments like those things ebb and flow and stuff, but at least initially, do you have a set plan of like I'm gonna do this early on with this entry this early on with that entry and then I'll kind of figure out what I'm gonna do going forward? So I guess the only thing I had before the tournament starts is I'm not going to pay to enter it unless there's a race or a horse that I really have a strong, strong opinion on. If I don't have that situation, I might as well just play a regular one, but whatever. So I guess that's the first strategy and the second strategy I guess need to make sure that other people probably won't ask that same opinion or something that gives you some sort of edge. I watch a lot of replays, which, I mean, I don't know that gives me an edge or whatever, but I definitely noticed that my success is exponentially higher or better when I do spend the time watching the replays. And when going into a contest, I make sure that I do that for almost all of the races and all the interns for sure. So you might as late as Friday night or something, have not necessarily known if you were even going to enter the tournament or not. You were doing prep to almost decide if you had something worth worth playing in the tournament? That's exactly what happened. I think I got an email from the people running the tournament on Friday afternoon and I just glanced at the card watch just a couple a couple of replays and then there is one horse that I really liked a lot in the first race. Yeah. So it's kind of a situation where if that didn't hit, I wasn't going to have much success that day. Well, the tournament itself this one was $3000 buy in 2000s bankroll live your money, whatever, but a thousand is in the price pool. I mean, you are, you know, you're down to start, obviously. But I'm sure a lot of you can't look at it that way. I don't think. I mean, because you might bet differently, if you're down a thousand versus, even on the day, but you mentioned, like in the horse, the first race. I know a number of tournament players who, like, that's kind of their approach at least, like early on. Like if I have something I really like, I'm just gonna let it ride. And if I hit, great, now I have this whole group of options of how to play. And if I'm out, I got the rest of the day to play. That's exactly what I did. One of the reasons why I got on the tournament is there's a horse I really like. In the first race, a grand motion horse named script. He was in against and asked me some course that ran a decent number that I figured to be favored in a Todd pletcher first time starter. So if you have an opinion on early race and you kind of run into that situation, it seems like you're always going to get a square price on the horse course that you like. Yeah, I've heard from a number of players. So anyway, so you bet I think did you bet the whole 2000 on that horse? So the same chairman one entry I did. Okay. There's the $2000 bankroll. I just did 2000 to win. On script, it showed three to one, the entire time telecast and everything, but it really ended up paying more like 7 to two. I think it was 8 99. Yeah. So that kind of set me up to I guess not have to press kind of pick my spots throughout the day. You had to it's the format. I'll go into that. You have to do at least 5 $400 bets, which is two ten races. Right, exactly. Basically, you have your. So I decided to go all in on one or three on the other entry. I think I just did a $200 exact with script over to the third and fourth place in the course. That would have paid, I think, 50 to one or something like that. So that didn't work out, but we had with the script acre, I went after I decided I was going to play the tournament. I went through the card and I really only had two strong opinions. And one was script in the first race. The nest and the demos out. It did not end up being a great price. I think it's let me scroll through this. Should you. See into that paying 5 50? So yeah, pretty close to that. Hi. Right. I didn't love the price, but I just thought it was so much the best of that group, which ended up being right. She won by neck, but I think she was four to 5 wide, the entire way. Around the track. So I'm guessing Ira, I think that was Fletcher probably just decided, hey, we have the best horse..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Trainers. Have done it. There are no 13 others. He's the 14th. So 4000 winners for him. I love getting to call stuff like that. It's a privilege for sure. I get to call Perry oots 5000th win. And I can't remember the name of the horse. It's Kandinsky. I think with that was it, maybe. I remember had pink silks. And it was a river down, so it was a long time ago. But happy for Gerald and you know obviously I got a couple wins and he's been a perennial leading trainer Tampa likes to go up to a Delaware in the summer months, obviously when a lot of races there, but a sure big number of those wins have come down here in oldsmar, Florida. It's a very happy for him to get that job done. A couple of other things. I wanted to talk about before we get to Sam Sherman. Obviously, a lot of discussion still about the symposium, which I think is I think it's over now. I think it's done. Maybe it goes on. But it sure seemed as though the fixed odds conversation was coming up again and you know I know it's a popular topic as of late and a lot of racetrack operators and sports betting people seem to think it's a saving grace. I've been pretty vocal about it not being a great saving grace. And we had pylons on a while ago and he talked about the potential effect of it and all that kind of stuff. That was certainly a big topic. I did think there was a couple of good at least conversations that came out. It's just weird. I feel I'd love to chat with some of these power brokers. I don't think it's going to happen. They're not coming on the JB HRP. But it would be nice to just face to face like really ask questions as someone who just works in the business and is concerned and has questions about where they want things to go and we hear a lot of doom and gloom on the interwebs and then we hear a lot of like positive. Hey, things are great. Things are strong. You know, sometimes from management and it's just a weird, I feel a little trapped in the middle of all that. Like, oh, handles up. Oh, great. That's good. But it doesn't feel like it is. It's weird as that sounds to say. And so I don't know. Yeah, I mean, I'm never going to be someone in one of those positions to be at one of those kind of conventions or symposiums to talk to people and so I the only place I get to talk about it is here. And so it's just a different world. It's a different part of the business. I don't know. It would be nice to really get one on one or small group and have those conversations where they didn't seem maybe as scripted. I saw Ed derosa spoke up and asked about the takeout compared to sports and I think the quote from David o'rourke and the hire was. Yeah, 24% for the pick four is probably too high. Yeah, Kanye is David thank you. And so, you know, I mean, I'm not optimistic that any of that stuff's going to change, but I sure think it has to, right? We have to be priced competitively against our competition. And right now, that's not necessarily happening. Well, why don't we get to Sam? Looking forward to talking to him for a little horse player Thursday. As I mentioned, the jury guys will be here tomorrow. In fact, the jury question tomorrow was a little bit symposium related. I'm asking the guys if they could sit on one panel for the symposium or if there was like an imaginary subject they would just want to talk about at something like that. What would it be? Was there one that was really interesting for me? I didn't watch any of it. I was just going off of what people were talking about on Twitter. So I would love to go watch the one with David o'rourke and Aiden butler and I think del Mars head guy was there kind of listen to what they're saying because you know those are the guys that have a lot of the power when it comes to the racetracks themselves. I know that I know they don't have all encompassing power, but they're, you know, the head dudes that I had all these places. So it would be interesting to hear that one. So maybe I didn't want to pay the $200. Maybe we'll have somebody on next week that was there or who watched a lot of it. Maybe that's something we can do and get a lowdown on the sense of it. But, as I said, well, tomorrow will certainly look ahead to some of the weekend races coming up and be joined by the jury boys. Why don't we take a quick break? When we come back, Sam Sherman is our guest. We'll talk some about his victory in the cigar mile handicapping tournament and more. It is a Thursday edition horseplayer Thursday dish to the Jason bean horse racing podcast.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Here on this Thursday December the 9th player Thursday, Sam Sherman is going to join us, Texas based horse player, won the $3000 cigar mile contest on I guess it was last Saturday. So we'll talk about that tournament stuff about the actual sequences his strategy game theory. For winning the contest, as it turns out, you know, betting all your money on the right horse was when he was strategy and a couple of spots, but we'll talk with Sam coming up a little bit. Also talk a little bit about the same Houston meet coming up with him. He's an owner and obviously horse player down there, so we'll talk a little Sam Houston. What did they open? I guess a month or so from now. So not too far. Good winter meat, the Sam Houston meat. And so I looked forward to that and looking forward to catching up with Sam here in just a few minutes. Tomorrow's show of course. So we'll preview the weekend news and look ahead to some of the races. I did see on Friday the return of Nashville for the Steve asthma and barn, florent Giroud taking them out. You know, it's funny. Asuka and Ricardo Santana thing, whatever you want to call it, they he did ride for asparagus at Oakland. A little bit. Like he had a couple of mouths for him and he's got on Friday one mount for him in the 6th race he's got one on Saturday with sonnemann and then one on Sunday at Oklahoma as well on a maiden claimer. So it is interesting which horses or it is interesting that a that Steve still riding him, obviously not nearly as exclusive as before. But I don't know. I really would love to hear and look, I know people aren't going to he's not just going to be like, well, you know, we've fired him from these horses, but we're going to keep him up. Like, you know, I know you're not going to hear that, right? But it would be interesting to, you know, kind of here because you know like Stuart Elliot's riding all of them at Remington and bright Hernandez is riding a few down at fairgrounds for Steve and you know you have McCarthy and aqueduct. You know, he's spreading the wealth out and lucid terrorist is riding for him quite a bit at Oakland, but as I said, Santana's there, he's just not writing as much as he was. So it's fascinating. I would love to know. But like I said, I don't know that we will hear the situation, maybe some owners didn't want Santana on, I don't know. So we're just conjecturing, which I don't think is a word, but maybe it is. And so I will, you know, like I said, I just, from pure curiosity, but I get it, it's people's work, right? They're not going to talk about, especially because it seems like there's still a relationship of some kind there. But Florence got them out on Nashville. Of course you remember Nashville last year in 2020, really quickly rose to prominence he had that big win on breeders cup day, the undercard in the perryville. They went over to Santa Anita and ran in the Malibu against charlatan and charlatan ate his lunch. Stock from off the pace passed him and it was over. He ended up finishing fourth. So looking to rebound, obviously, you know, good spot and optional $8 million purse at Oakland park. Some decent horses in there, mister jagermeister is certainly not what he was. I just won that one steak at Canterbury in the spring, but other than that, you know, he's but he still got some early speed and fire crows in there as well, who was took a fair bit of money in the wood for last start on turf, but his dirt form, it's not amazing, but it's not bad. I mean he was fourth buying CZ rocket and whitmore and Flagstaff in the Hot Springs. I mean, that was that had been one of the toughest listed sprints. In the last many years. That was a non graded stakes race with CZ rocket when he was cut at his peak whitmore and Flagstaff who's on his best day of beast. And so fire crow was fourth behind them. Four and a half links behind. And there was only 7 horse field, but still something. John Ortiz sends out. He's got off to a quick start Oakland with a couple of wins. Solid barn. He was a little, I don't want to say snake bit at colonial. He just, his horses were run and they just weren't quite winning, but he sent out Hollis against Nashville. On Friday. So we'll talk more weekend preview stuff about the Oakland weekend. I did get to see some history at Tampa on Wednesday. Gerald Ben won his 4000th win. I had said that there was a shot. He had a lot of horses in, and he won early on with a very logical favorite. Didn't win a couple of races throughout the middle parts of the car. He had the big favorite in the last race. And Antonio Guerrero had the horse mid pack, kept him out in the clear, and the best horse one just pulled clear and I was telling my boss afterwards, I said, I'm kind of glad that because turf races, in general, you don't get huge margins of victory, right? And often those races are, if not in doubt, at least not put away, you know, at inside the 16th pole, usually, and this was one where at the 16th pole it looked pretty good and halfway through it looked really good. The reason I said that is because obviously you want to give mention to in the call, but you can't really do the big lead up like you can maybe in a dirt race with a horse starts to pull away by two or three at the 8th pole. And dirt race is just kind of unfold a little bit slower at the end. There usually necessarily settled at the 16th pole, but there are a lot of times they are. And so it was nice to be able to make mention of it in the call. It's a tremendous achievement as we talked about yesterday. Only.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"The horses and give them money per start. So I'm going to go over there with my wife just ride her horses and just kind of waste three months. Little vacation kind of working vacation and we'll come back for the spring and Hawthorne. Have you ridden a Santana before? I did write there, probably like 15 years ago. Just for like Chicago we always have the winter off. Yeah, yeah. So I did go out there for like 6 weeks before and rode. And that was a very cool for me. So I'm going to go over there. I'm going to help her at the barn and we'll just write a few of our own in this, keep the horses fit. It won't be 8° over there. I can promise you that. Yes, we're trying to get out, get out of this cold weather because then when you come back and you'll be spring time, so. Awesome. Well, Chris, I really appreciate your time. Jackie Chris say joining us here on the program. Thanks so much. Thank you. Appreciate it. All right, we'll be right back after the short time out. It's a JSON B more racing podcast brought to you by twin spires. This is the Jason beam horse racing podcast, brought to you by twin spires. All right, big thanks to Chris Amy for joining us. I hope you guys enjoyed the conversation with Chris. Really appreciate his time. I was surprised he didn't remember the Donna gooseberries. I thought that was such a big deal. I actually texted it to him the link after we were done talking, and I was like, you gotta check this out with me. And this race is crazy. Go look it up on YouTube if you haven't watched it. It's one word do SKA, and it should be the first thing that pops up. Like, the video that's got all the views. It says horse racing oddly incredible stretch run. It's like a 537,000. You just can't believe, you know, we watch these races all the time, right? And are there crazy things that happen in horse traces? Of course, it's one of the beauties of the sport, right? There's a lot of things that can happen. And one thing I kind of do love to is like, you never know when it's going to happen. You never know when some writers going to rattle off 7 wins. You never know when someone's going to ride a winner while bolting to the outside gate or no one the lights are going to go off in the middle of a race. Like you just you just don't and that tonic couscous race like he just turning for home, there's just no way that horse wins and there's a moment of acceleration between the 8th and the 16th pole. That you just can't believe. And I thought it was really interesting, Chris talking about kind of the tiring late part. It almost. Almost made me go back and watch it again through that lens of maybe they were just there because if I remember right like the speed figure was like a got like a 60 something like it wasn't even crazy, right? Because you'd think a horse winds like that. But speed figures are based on time. And so obviously it's visually impressive, but in the reality, the time of the race wasn't that crazy. And Augustus, she went on to have a pretty decent career 25 start 6 wins, 5 seconds, three thirds, made 91,000. You know, running at turfway park and river downs Indiana grand, Hawthorne. So we were talking about what dare and the other day, he realized there's an owner like it ain't it ain't easy to just to get to the races is a challenge to win your maiden is not something every horse does. And to win your conditions is like, you know, that puts you in a decent Echelon of horses because it's just not that easy to do. But I really appreciate Chris joining us. Looking forward tomorrow to tomorrow. Sam Sherman is going to join us for a little horse player Thursday. Hopefully I'll have some horseplay stuff to talk about as well. I sometimes I gotta rely on sometimes I have a topic I just want to talk about because I saw something that I thought was interesting and watch a sequence and just be utterly fascinated how the pick four paid this and the pick 5 paid this. Why was it in the easy answer as well? A four to one one the first leg. It paid 5 times more and the takeouts lower. It's one less multi. Sometimes it's just that easy. Other times it's not. And I always think it's kind of in fact there was a trifecta when I was looking through the races at turf way. I don't know which day it would take me a little while to look at it. But it came in like 9 to one over ten to one over 42 to one and in my head and it was a big field and obviously the top couple of favorites are out. And in my head, I'm thinking that's going to pay monstrous and it paid like 5 80 or 5 90 for 50 cents. Which just seems staggeringly low. And I know I've beaten the drum about trifecta and pick three. We need the dollar minimum not the 50 cents. But because I have to think that's one of the reasons that it paid so low. Because it just seemed like I think the exact for two paid a $173, which even that seemed a little light. And so maybe it was just in the wind pool that one horse was over bet. I don't know. But I'm always fascinated to see those kind of things and kind of try to not only figure out why and how, but in the situations where it comes out good. How do you get there? I don't know. So hopefully we'll have some I'll talk to something like that. But if not, trust me, we talk with Sam for a while, but tournaments and horse playing and he kind of talks about how he's essentially just become a win better in his normal bets and why, so look forward to that as well. We will see you guys back tomorrow. I hope you guys all have a great Wednesday and we'll do it again tomorrow. Good night..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Yeah, yeah, that's going to change. Ask me, I mean, he's had kind of a weird last few months as well. Obviously, the world documented struggles that Mercado Santana had a keenly and the stuff that went on with Aspen taking him off some horses. Yes. Maker is going to definitely bounce back. William mori had a sensational meat last year over the winter. He always brings good horses. I don't know if Jonathan Thomas is going to be bringing over as many as he did last year from what I heard. But when he shows up with a runner at turf where you absolutely have to pay attention he had a winner actually yesterday that he brought in from Belmont and then Wesley warden of course is going on. Wesley was kind of noticeably absent this week. It seemed like he was, which was interesting. Yeah, I expected the entry box to be full of horses from Wesley ward, but it wasn't, which was kind of surprising. Because he actually had a ton of horses, especially young horses last winter, where he has some calls and some horses that he's willing to let go at this point of the season. But when you look at the entries next week, I think he had like ten or 11 in the first so he definitely definitely coming out firing next week. I thought one of the the big performance is the weekend was tawny port who was a debut runner for Brad Cox. Was last or second last early on going to mile and one going away. It wasn't like it was a closer dominated race. I think second third and fourth were second third and fourth throughout. Yeah, that horse was an eye opener. I actually tweeted about it. If you go back and watch the race, it's extremely it's very visually impressive to say the least. And yes, I mean, it remains to be seen where the horse goes from here. It's always interesting when you get these horses that kind of break their maiden in the winter at turfway because it's kind of like an in between type of spot. You don't know where they're going to go. The horse earned the 62 buyer figure. I didn't see any of the other figures yet. Wow. It was basically yeah, it was basically like a last to first kind of performance. Drawing clear by over 6 lines. So the horse that ran second was for the name of eliminated the latch. Now, that was now a four time maiden with three runner up efforts and maybe you go well and beat much, but eliminated the last ran second to Barbara road to start back who came back to one second. I'd say hano twist in a state race. So that was actually a pretty good second place finisher that he dusted. And yeah, I definitely think that that horse has a bright future. There was another horse if you're looking for a potential bet back. That was actually claimed ran in the second race on Sunday by the name of Liz now. She was actually with Brett Cox as well and was claimed away. I think by Michelle level, she's had two starts. She dwelt at the start both times and last this past Sunday at turfway. She made a huge aggressive move on the turn, got within like a length of them at the top of the stretch. I then got a bit tired and got beat four lengths. But when Liz now shows up next time, hopefully they can figure the gate woes out because there's definitely some talent there. Boy, Michelle's had a hell of a year, too, between the top two horses. Can I also forget, is it forget to change horse? But just might the other one obviously been enjoying a fantastic season. Well, Darren, always good to hear from you, pal. He folks to find you on Twitter at the known, I shouldn't say at at the track 7. Just to make it more confusing, but in your expert selections, of course, turf way throughout the meat. Thanks again, pal. Yeah, I appreciate it always good to be on with you and hopefully everybody takes part in a really some good racing and throughout the entire meet the fields are always extremely large. And you do find value and you do get some large payouts as well. So hopefully everybody comes on board. Follow along, like you said on Twitch buyers with my selections and hopefully we can keep the ball rolling. Yes. Thursday Friday Saturday Sunday for the holiday meet at least is that continue all the way through the spring. Do you remember? No, it only goes through the holiday meal when we get to January they go to three days to one exception is towards the end of the meet when they have those big space races they had in the fourth day. But it'll be three days starting in January. Right, on Darren till Kelly, our guests will be right back after the short time out of the Jason being horse racing podcast brought to you by to inspires. This is the Jason beam horse racing podcast, brought to you by twin spires. All right, big thanks to Darren so Callie for joining us and talk a little turfway park. It was texting with Jimmy mcnerney the other night, the voice of turfway park. He told me, because they kind of are in a temporary stand there. I saw I hadn't seen photos of the grandstand at turf way because it's obviously being built. But I hadn't seen, you know, there's nobody on the racing side of things out there, right during the off season. So you just hadn't seen updates, but I think it was Mary Troy low. She posted some pictures and it is. It's coming right along. The facility there, they got beams and roof and all that kind of stuff. So it would be nice to see when the turf waves ready to go and it's more full capacity, but I was talking to Jimmy and he was obviously, you know, it's a really challenging place to call 'cause they're so low. And it's unique as Darren mentioned. It's unique as a race watcher too, right? Like it does, it is a little bit of a challenge right now. And of course, once the facilities built, it'll be a higher camera and kind of back to normal. But you've got to do what you got to do in the interim. But always enjoy the racing from turf away. I have a lot of fond memories from going over there before river downs would start. I would do my spring training over there. Seeing friends like Jeff riedel over there and Arnie Metz and Jack Valentine. Jack Valentine was the echo based guy in Kentucky for years or one of them. Him and cliff Gilliam's cliff cliff was the longtime Kentucky guy who the cliff's edge was named after. And I think little cliff as well. We're both named after cliff gilliams and cliff passed away a few years ago. Jack, I believe he's still alive Jack retired. Jack had this great bushy white mustache and he would eat spaghetti for dinner and his bushy white mustache would turn orange on the bottom. He used to crack me up because he was sit there and he would always call every track. Like he would end it with a Y, he'd be like, oh I'm bent a little okey today that was Oakland or a little turfy today. You know, he would always end the tracks with the Y, which I just thought was always funny. So lots of good turfway park memories. And I appreciate Darren's coming on for a joint and talking about it. Chris, Amy, going to join us tomorrow on the Thursday horseplay Thursday Sam Sherman will be here. Jury boy should be in on Friday and now we'll do the rest of things we do. I hope your guys have a better day today at least from a horse racing perspective. It was a dark day yesterday. It really was. It's hopefully tomorrow is a little brighter. Today's a little brighter and we work to be better. As people as an industry, each and every day, so want to end on a positive note. There we have. We'll see you guys back tomorrow..
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Where it seemed like it was, you know, I don't want to say a 50 50, but you know he had his detractors. He had his supporters. His camp is pretty universally seemed to claim that this is witch hunt and people are coming after me. I remember it was on the news after the Derby thing. You know, this was cancel culture and all that stuff. I mean, that's kind of been there, their take on it. There hasn't been at least it hasn't seemed like a lot of accountability or even remorse. It's more an active defense of themselves, I should say. And you know, I think as each event or each black eye or each positive or now each death has happened, more and more people I think have gone to the side of, you know, just had enough. And I don't know at this point, baffert's participation in horse racing. I don't know what good comes of it. In any way. If he wins a race, it's going to be questioned by a majority, I think at this point it's a comfortable majority. Some of you will disagree, and that's fine. But I think most people are not don't think he's in the best interest of force racing right now. And I don't know how that changes. At this point, again, it's not like it just turned overnight, right? Like this has been building up now for quite a while. And so, but and then, you know, if you, like I said, if he wins, it's bad. If he loses, it's bad and if something bad happens like what happened today, it's even worse. The Kentucky Derby winner dying is going to always be a news story, but it's a much bigger one and it's a much more complicated one because of the circumstances of this winner and this horse in this trainer. And so it's going to be whatever it is in terms of a new story and topic and what action will be taken. I don't know. Will there be voluntary action? Will he step away? I saw some people suggested that earlier on. On social media, I'd be surprised just because like I said, there were reaction to everything that's come up has been defensive of the barn, and the trainer. And so I'll be surprised if that's the case. We'll see. I mean, there's been obviously action taken by Churchill and New York against him, they're fighting that in court, whether something will happen in Southern California. We'll certainly find out. I'm sure. I mean, I've no doubt that actually I shouldn't say I have no doubt. I want to say, I'll have no doubt, there'll be an investigation, but I do have doubts because sometimes it seems like there isn't or they take a year to go through these things. And the doctor said that the necropsy and all the testing and stuff could take a little while, like 60 days. But, you know, I have such little faith in the processes of these things that it's just like, you know, what are we just going to wait for 60 days and expect a full good report? That's what should happen. If that mean, if that's how long, you know, the testing takes. I don't know. I'm very disheartened. I saw a lot of, you know, a lot of horsemen disheartened to buy it because you know obviously, you know, you know, I work in the business. I'm open about that. You guys know that. It's scary to think that you're going to lose your job or lose your career because people continually put you and your industry in a bad position. Even though they think of the outside media putting them in the bad light, it's not them putting us in a bad light. And because of the fact that there are horses and their lives at stake, it adds a wrinkle to this. Barry Bonds, you know, he cheats. He's a jerk. He's a cheat. And you know, he gets exiled or whatever, which, you know, he still shows up at the games. But, you know, that's him doing it. He's the jerk. But when you add in the wrinkle of, you are a caretaker for an animal. It adds a whole big layer of it not only for us in racing, but for society at large that are going to view this. And so I don't know what's going to happen. We'll talk about it when it does. Obviously just very frustrated. Like, I think all of you are. I don't think anybody likes that we have to keep dealing with this. I want to be done with this. But we have to deal with it and hopefully those in power do. We'll see. We're going to be joined here in a second by Darren Zoe Callie. He is a handicapper at turfway park. Well, he's handicapper to inspires that does turfway park. That's what that's what I should say. And we'll talk with Darren about opening weekend, a turf way we'll talk about some of the race's handicapping, betting it, as I said earlier, I feel like it has this reputation as a chaotic in the results and I want to ask Darren if that was the case for opening weekend if he thinks the case in general, I know it's a track that he really loves to play. And I always talked about love and playing turfway. I always had a soft spot for turfway. Anyway, so Darren's going to join us here in just a couple of minutes. Tomorrow on the show, Chris Amy going to join us long time Midwest Chicago land jockey. Very excited to talk to Chris. And on the Thursday horseplay Thursday Sam Sherman is going to join us. Sam was the winner.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on The Jason Beem Horse Racing Podcast
"Starlet, which we didn't even talk about on Friday's show. That race and they're just not on my radar at all. I mean, I deserve blame for missing. I mean, but I would rather talk about all the aqueduct races in the turf way meat getting underway. We had cup stakes at Tampa, woodbines closing up shop, the claiming crown was going on. I didn't get to watch as much claiming crown as I wanted to. I saw a couple of the races sugar fix was a real nice one, kicking from off the pace, safi Joseph had a couple of wins Paco had a big day down at Gulfstream park as the championship meet underway. It's funny because it's like it doesn't seem yet like a lot of the big names and stuff are down there and so, but I thought about it, but it was like it's still felt like when I was watching it, it felt different than normal Gulfstream like it did have a different feel. I wonder if you just label it something else. It feels different, but like I said, didn't get to watch as much of it. We were running out of Tampa. We had a couple stakes for two year olds and Gary barber and Mark Cassie sent one over strategic bird who won the sandpiper the two year old Philly race. She's now two for two. She was a maiden winner at Gulfstream by like 12 over the summer and had to work for this one divine charger, a nice horse for a Jordan Blair, a really put up a good fight, but it was a strategic bird in the end, getting the win and they both, as I said, they both ran. Really good racist. Did we get we haven't seen figures for those ones yet. But I don't know. I think strategic bird might be might be something decent. We'll see. And then the boys race it was cat and who was, you know, very happy to see win for a Ralph nix is a dad more Snickers passed away this past week, a longtime trainer and good feel good win for the next barn and cat and with Sami camacho on board. Mentioned Oakland opening. We talked a little bit about that earlier on, did want to give a shout out to woodbine as they wrap up their season, obviously a big field. They had a 99 to one shot. I saw one on Sunday, but always enjoy talking to people for wood wine. We had sherry on the show last week. A lot of good folks up there and connections we had throughout the meat. Coming up this week, we will have who do we have on? We have a handicapper that is with us at to inspires. Darren so Callie is going to join us tomorrow. We're going to talk to turfway park. We'll talk about some of the opening weekend races, how it played Darren tracks that meet really well he does the expert selections on a twin spires. And so we'll check in with him about turf Wei, a bullseye beauty and ice winner for Andrew mckeever and Joe Talbot with the holiday inaugural stakes, 100,000. Man, they're running for big purses of turfway park. So we'll talk with Darren. Very excited for a Wednesday. I'm excited for all the guests, but Wednesday we're going to have Chris Amy on the show longtime Chicago land writer. Been like I said, it seems like he's been riding for a long, long time, but looking forward talking to him. I feel like we haven't had any jocks on in a little while. Maybe I'm wrong on that. I could probably look it up. But yeah, and we haven't talked much Hawthorne. I know they were wrapping up. No, they go for a little while longer, right? They wrap it up their turf part of their season. I think was what it was. But anyways, Chris Amy is going to join us later on in the week. So very excited about that. And then Sam Sherman is going to join us. We've had Sam on before for a horse player Thursday, Sam won the cigar mile handicap in contest this weekend. The cash money tournament so we'll talk with him about the tournament and some general horse play and stuff. He's a big, of course, Sam Houston player and owner, so we'll talk with him about the upcoming Sam Houston meet as well. So that's what we got coming up this week on the program as far as guests are concerned. So that will wrap up our weekend recap, kind of buzz through those last ones, but like I said, I was trying to shoot for that. That 40 minute mark to be in or around there. But like I said, the irad stuff, it was really the dominant conversation on social media this weekend. I think a lot of people rightfully very strongly opinionated on it and just it's just frightening. You can't be having that kind of stuff, and so I'm really curious to see how it plays out. Not from a, you know, I try to pride myself on being a very forgiving person, so it's not like I'm just out there like, oh, he needs to be gone for a year and this that and the other. But I do think a tone kind of has to be said, you know, we've heard a lot of talk about writers in New York about hurting and HER di and G not hurting, hurting. And it's just some of the practices that the writers get away with up there and you know, I guess you kind of have to enforce the rules and make them stiff if you're going to see any kind of change. And you know, like I said, I'm all for guys writing aggressively, but I guess smart aggressively, does that make sense? He just can't what he did the other day was careless. It wasn't aggressive. It was careless. And it was kind of weak too. It was just guys inside of.
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"sam sherman" Discussed on At The Races With Steve Byk
"Different set almost whole different set of tracks Yeah i don't know. I'm not a i won't say that i'm a bigger Del mar or took a. I mean i don't i like both those tracks but I don't know that it is probably a disadvantage because there's certainly some people that follow either or both of those a lot more than i do. So i don't know that it's particularly gonna help me but it's gonna be. There's gonna be some great racing obvious time of year that maybe we didn't have in january and february. So i would say. I mean even though we get we get fairgrounds. And and we get tampa and and we get Gulfstream bad. Santa anita. Don't want the oakland but but I'm i'm approaching turf. The turf options are going to be. I mean that much more pronounced. Yeah i would think. I think this this should play into the hands of of of the grass players. Yeah i'm with you i agree. I can't say that that's particularly beneficial to meet but I mean i'm fine with it. But not i just think there's folks that really those two tracks more than i do so i don't know that i'm a whatever it is what it is. I'm happy. I think it's gonna be great and i'm excited to take on that topic. Actually it's interesting and trae contributing to the hr p the sam houston race park signal when you were nats. You're your home track. Essentially does it. Does it provide a little bit more of a of a direction to consider the be- the be- circuit tracks the the remington. 's the you know what we're doing. We're having tremendously fund time. The last few years with indiana which is so playable with these big fields and with the low takeout canterbury has has made themselves important to look at You gotta you gotta get used to. In both cases you gotta get used to indiana bread. Pedigrees and and minnesota bread pedigrees. But it's no different than than any other you know. Adapt adapting to any other kind of a of a circuit. Or you know a specific especially regionally i. I was all in with with sam. Houston i mean. That's i mean for seven months really because we took on the roy. Thomas meet with the quarter horses so for basically seven months You know. I was as i pointed out earlier that Frankly is kind of pointing out. I go into a lot of detail. It takes me a lot of time to To prepare for the sharpie time the show we do beforehand. And then the previews and so i really don't have the time to I i haven't played his little concerned about this. I haven't played doe maar and so much as some of the tracks. Because i mean i have a job not my job i have. I'm a lawyer. I have a job i do that. And then i drive fun right and so And they've been great right. I tell him. I can't make it because i have a hearing or court or whatever they they're totally cool but so but there's only so much time in the day and so i just haven't been able to focus on because i've been focusing on those You well certainly. Sam houston And and the local circuits in preparation for this weekend. What advance work. I'm not sure if it was you. Or somebody. Sam sherman that might have The bite of the set the people you know fridays. Pp's arouse that. Was you have a chance work. What kind of advance work either. For for their. There's plenty of people listening. That are coming here tomorrow. Or thursday and Might be their first time. What is the the blueprint for getting ready for. Friday saturday and is a great question that i get asked a lot and i have a an answer. I mean the first time. I qualified nineteen years ago with your bally's and i think i came thursday night the day before And i'm for me i i. I don't even know didn't even know you're on the air. I'm all out of whack right. My body doesn't know what time it is. Where and woke up at four thirty. And i thought you know started to get my day going this morning so it took me. I was totally out of whack the first year and then wasn't really prepared zip. I'm at home. i'm still getting calls from clients. I'm getting you know kids events that have to you know attend. I don't let mine are off to college now. So let's not as big an issue. But there's too many distractions. So that's why i'm here with you on a tuesday instead of At home i came out yesterday. And i'd encourage folks. Well there's two ways there's nothing wrong with the people that say six hundred people in this event. I'm going to go to vegas and have a great time. If that's what you wanna do great. But i tried to kind of treat it like a like a job and i tried to come here. Set up a printer my computer. I'm i mean. I'm set up in my room and i just i hope it for three days. I don't really need dinner with my friends. But i don't have gambled yet have been here for twenty four hours haven't gambled yet So i'd really focused on. Just i mean. That's why i'm here trying to well and i've had a lot of bad years where that didn't work and it gets frustrating but You know paid off last year had a good finish And so. I'm trying to kind of redo the same thing so i didn't. It just depends on what your goal is right. If you're here to have a good time we'll go party with your friends and you know. Shoot craps and have a good time but if you're here to try to to finish well then i'd encourage folks to get out early. You can might be too late this year but you can get acclimated and And just work work work when it gets to saturday night or friday night and you're trying to go through the saturday. Pp's if you haven't already gone through them. I can't do it the way i handicap. I couldn't do it. I'm too tired too much to do. I already have to have gone through them and have a kind of a game plan. What am i gonna do. If i'm had a good first day. What am i gonna do. If i had a bad first day and already have a good concept what i'm going to do and i'm just fine tune in on friday night whereas some people are trying to figure it all out and trying to integrate. The race is all on friday or saturday nights too late. Obviously start with the mandatory. And that is that the first set or do you do you go through. And it doesn't matter you're gonna you're gonna review all the cards and try to identify the horses in a first pass. What's that process like. Well when i'm doing it. Like now. I don't know what the main stories are. So i'm just going through them all Trying to kind of handicap. All the races. That i i think i'm likely to play it as a general rule. I don't really even look at six horsfield Just because even if you're right and you get the place isn't gonna pay much and it's just usually. It's that's like the last thing that's down the road and then there's certain tracks maybe that you know. I have experience with it. I don't want to bad mouth any. But i just know from statistics that don't do well as contract so i try to kind of focus on those as much. So i'd say spend my time hitting the tracks and the in types of races that i like hard But i'll i won't some people say player one or two tracks and that hasn't been. That's not something that i do. But i i could certainly see if you're if you're all in toko year and that's where you know the best. That's where he ought to focus. Is there a particular type of race that draws your attention more than others. seven eighths No big fields Because it's just hard to find those those big prices in the smaller fields obviously But no i. I i you know some people say there. I never maiden first time starter specialist. I you know. I i tend to stay away from those see but but i'll hit one last year. That went well. So i mean i. I don't know that. I have a type of race Just certain tracks said i do. I know that. I do better with so i try to focus on those but i don't really care if a grade one stakes or five thousand claimer. I mean doesn't impact me as much Morning y price Range Are are you. are you working to.