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A Look Back on Grief Counseling

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A Look Back on Grief Counseling

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And when you're ready to launch us the offer code office ladies to save ten percent off your first purchase. Hey office ladies family. Guess what we are done with season. Four i can't believe it i can't believe it. We're moving indices and five but we need to prepare. Yeah we need a week off we gotta get our notes ready so we are going to rerun grief counseling. You remember grief counseling season three episode for this was a great episode. A lot happens in this episode. We have audio clips from gen salata. We have an audio clip for mindy kaeling book. We have a twin. Absorption deep dive. I talk about poking some melons and france and then gets to the bottom of who is moving that conference table in and out of the conference room. I mean it drove me crazy for years you had to find out. We also have a special guest on this episode. My daughter bus in while we were in the middle of recording with an actual bird emergency. Yes so guys. We thought this is perfect. It's spring again. I've got birds in a nest again. My house i know me too. So enjoy grief counseling. We're going to see you next week with season. Save season five holy moly jenna fischer and angela kinsey. We were on the office together. And we're best friends and now we're doing the ultimate office rewatch podcast just for you. Each week we will break down an episode of the office and give exclusive behind the scene stories. That only two people who were there can tell you where the office ladies. hi everybody. How low a welcome to office ladies. I'm so excited about this episode. It's so good right. Yeah and we. We reached out to lots of folks so we have some fun fun stuff. This is grief counseling and guys. If we can get you depressed by the end of this podcast. We've done our job. Oh michael it's season three four written by gen salata and directed by roger. Nygaard jen's lada. Is one of my favorite people. Jenna one hundred percent. She is just such a delight and was so much fun onset because she would always crack up. Oh yeah she was one of our worst laugh irs which made her the best laugher jenna. You know what. I'd love right now. I hope it's a summary hari. All right here. It is michael finds out that his former boss. Ed truck was decapitated in a self-induced drunk driving accident. Nobody seems upset. Though are certainly not upset enough. Which causes michael to question if anyone would care about his death. of course. he doesn't know that that's what he's worried about. Yeah he doesn't understand really the depths of his sadness. Yes wants everyone to love him and be sad for him if he wasn't around. Yeah make a fuss about him. Well i he leads everyone in some grief counseling but then later he forces everyone to participate in a bird funeral meanwhile over in stanford. Jim is put in charge of supervising karen for the day but decides to put their work on hold so they can search for her favourite bag of chips. Oh we're going to have so much to say about that. This is a really odd tangent. And i don't mean to take this really weird really fast you at jena. Y was rewatching this episode. I hear a commotion outside of my. That's what she said. No and a squirrel is eating. Oh a little bird. That's worse than what i thought you were going to say. Yeah and so. I was like wait. What's eating what's eating. I start filming it. I have video of me filming the squirrel in the background. You can hear grief counseling. Bird funeral i. It was like we was so crazy but apparently squirrels are like they're like an opportunist you know. If there's a a little bird's nest they go for a baby bird. They do it. Squirrels are terrible. Everyone thinks they're so cute because of their fluffy tails. But they're all fall. Look at everybody's squirrels carry more disease than rats. Look it up okay. Sorry but it just was kind of crazy that i was watching an episode that had a bird funeral and then i saw a squirrel attack a bird. It was crazy. Yeah okay. I don't we give back from that. Hit me was from fastback. All right fastback number one. This episode was written by gen salata. We said that and angela reached out to jen for this episode. Yes jenin. I traded emails and texts and she was so much fun to talk to about this episode. She was so excited to share information and so she sent in a whole bunch of audio clips that we are going to play and she is going to come back as a full awesome guest for maybe two episodes coming up. General do where we're trying to figure out scheduling and whatnot. But she is in. And i cannot wait well. Let's play her. Hello audio clip. Sam okay paid is. It's jen. i miss you. I'm loving your podcast. I learning so much. I had no idea of the drama behind the scenes boost cruise where you were floating away at sea angela with phyllis and rain and brian mazing. Anyway i'm loving it and meeting interesting grief counseling questions so i'll send him in separate audio files. Isn't it nice her ange. I love her voice. I find your voice release soothing. Listen we were chatting back and forth. And i was listening to her voice. A lot and jen real. Good podcast voice. I know jenner. You doing voice over work like anything you're selling with. Your voice are just. Call me and talk to me at the end of my day. Just leave me a message every day. Just kind of telling me what you did. I will listen to that. As i like. Do the dishes. I agree and angela in one of the clips that jen sent. She explains a little bit about the process of writing this episode for her right. Yeah it's it's so fascinating sam. Can you play it. Enjoy jen's voice. Everyone one thing about this episode. That really stuck with me personally was it was a thrill because it was hard to tell stories on other shows about characters going through internal things and in this case with michael. It was even more than that because this character was going through something internal and he was unaware of it. Which made it really exciting to write these. I love internal stories but it also made it kind of difficult to explain at times. And i remember that i created a little chart where it said. Here's what michael is doing. And saying in the scene and then bowled under it. I wrote what was actually happening to michael underneath. In all. and of course steve. Got it all intuitively. And he's a genius ru such a treat to be able to write and tell that story. And then jenna to have you be aware of what it was that was going on with michael to have pam sort of sense it. See it and fix it without it. Being spoken was just such a delight as a writer. Isn't that amazing. i love it. I love that. She had like a secret notes and charts in her script about the emotional journey of characters. Yeah i find that so interesting just like the writers process and what she wrote and how then it. It ended up playing you know. Oh my gosh. Angela just realized something what she was tracking. She makes sure. I can racking michael's emotional journey. She tracked it all right. Well we are going to hear more from jim throughout the episode so jenna. Why don't you fast fact me okay. I'm calling fast fact number two the big fight. Oh you did a shoulder. Shimmy i now. Are you intrigued. I am in mindy failings book. Is everyone hanging out without me. She writes a chapter about working on the office and being a writer and also being a performer. And she said in her book that she and greg daniels got into such a huge fight during this episode that she stormed off the set. She kicked his car. Yes i forgot about that but rather than have me. Read you the passage angela. Wouldn't you rather here in mendis voice. Yes well guess what. There's an audio book. Oh my god. Oh my god hit play sam. I want to hear it all right. Here is the clip from the audiobook of is everyone hanging out without me and other concerns. It's published by penguin random house llc and read by mindy failing. I tend to fight with gregg the most my friend and fellow office riders. Steve healy believes it is because i am emotional and intuitive and greg is more cerebral and logical or as i to think of it. I m a sensitive poet in greg is mean robot are fighting is legendary one time late at night. Our script coordinator sean. In our head writer. Danny both bread in their dogs and upon each other. They got into a violent barking fight. Polly rushton glanced over joked. Oh i thought that was just greg and mindy. What do we fight about. I wish i could say they were big smart philosophical issues about writing or comedy but sometimes there are small as if we do that cold open. Kevin dem's attorney of chili on himself. I will quit the show. We did that called up by the way and it was a hit. And i'm still working at the show. I can get a little theatrical which makes sense because after all i came up through the theater said in my snooty est masterpiece theatre voice. I will tell you about the worst fight. We ever had in a very heated rewrite session for the season. Three episode grief counseling. I was arguing with greg so much. He finally said in front of all twelve riders. If you're gonna resistant. I'm doing here. You can just go home. Mindy greg never send anyone home or even hints at it. Greg is the kind of guy who is so agreeable. I frequently find him on our studio lot embroiled in some long boring conversation with a random person while his lunch is getting cold and has to go container and he's the boss. I would never talk to anyone if i was the boss. I would only talk to my attorney and my psychic so anyway. My very nice boss had just hugely reprimanded me. Greg suggesting. I go home unless i adjusted. My attitude was the harshest. He'd ever been to any one three years. I'd been on the show. There was silence. No one looked at me. People pretended to be absorbed in their phones. One writer didn't even have a phone. He just pretended to be absorbed in his hand. I was so embarrassed angry that i got up stomped out of the room. Still a twenty four pack of bottled water from the production office. Kick the number of greg's car and left the studio. Is that amazing. It's amazing love the diesel that she took a twenty four pack water. I'm leaving. I am leaving. I'm going to be hydrated. Well isn't she goes on to say that after this. She went to a nail salon to get a pedicure and the woman astor. Oh do you have the day off and mindy was like no. My boss threw me out of work and the woman was like. Oh you got fired. And that's when mindy was like. Oh wait wait. what am i doing here. And she drove back to work and she told everyone she'd been in the bathroom but angeles. she did. Keep that water. Good for you mini. Her book is so fantastic. I own this book. It is hilarious. It is a great read. Mindy thank you so much for letting us use a little excerpt from it and you have to come on the show and she is guys took sitter and she's coming on just coming out. We won't say when but it's happening. It's soon you guys. If you're looking for entertainment right now give it a try. The audio book is available on the penguin house. Audio website and soundcloud dot com. And thank you to penguin random house for letting us play the clip. I love knowing that this was going on in the backdrop of us. Filming this episode. You're kicking a car. You're taking wider. Jensen ladas onset cracking up. What is happening in the writer's room. Should we move onto fast fact number three. I mean i don't know how you beat one and two but go for it why. I'm not sure. I will. But i got a little scoop from ken to pedia about this episode. Ooh all right on. The first day of this episode can't reminded me that we had our big season. Three photo shoot for nbc where we did a big cast photo shoot. We did individual photos all in character and since there weren't a lot of scenes happening in the break room. That's what we use for the photo shoot. I don't know if you remember it angela. I do. They set up a desk and then they would switch out the props on the desk and we would take single photos. I have this very stern single photo of me holding a pencil and a pad of paper with drawing on it. That i've never felt properly represents the character of pam because i think i look like i think look like a teacher who's ready to scold you in this photo as opposed to a woman going through a life altering journey of love and expression. I have a photo of me looking very stern in a sort of severe ponytail. And i'm holding up a card with a cat on it well then. They took the desks away and they loaded the break room with paper boxes and we all posed in front of them. Do you remember that one. I do because it was actually a very small space. And when they got us all in there they then couldn't figure out how to get us all in the photo. Yeah we were so jam packed so they had tiered these boxes like a low pyramid and guess who had to crawl up to the tippety top and is at the very top and really. I just looked like a very tiny floating head in the way back of the photo. It's me well. Then they moved us all over to the warehouse. Do you remember this. And they made it rain paper rana paper in a giant fan. This is a little insane because it took i mean. I can't even remember how many times to blow the paper. Yeah i have a great photo from this day. I i don't know who took it actually but it's inbetween. Whenever they blew the paper in the air then they'd have to stop and reset it. Your they'd have to pick up all the paper from the ground. Yeah and then someone would have to bring it back and toss it back in the air right so it was like a twenty minute turnaround between these setups. An in-between the so. We all had to just stay there in the warehouse. Where like on the loading dock area. Yeah and i'm in my skirt. My blouse my severe ponytail. And i squat down ladylike in a skirt. You know how you can tuck your skirt up in your leg and squat down. So you're not ruining the mystery for anyone. Sure sure like you weren't shirt. I squat down as lamar outfit to talk to. Paul lieber stains. So there's this great photo of everyone. Sort of milling about in between this paper setup and i'm squatting down so completely out of character talking to paul i love it well. It was really crazy because we would have to shoot these whole episodes but then also like when they would be setting up a new scene we would run off to the warehouse and take pictures with the paper coming down on us. Yeah super super bizarre. When ken wrote me and reminded me of that it all came flooding back like. Oh yeah how weird that was. Yeah well listen. Should we take a break and then get into this episode. Let's do it. Let's do it all right. We'll be right back angela. Talk about this one because you love it so much. it's figs. I love figs you guys. They are digitally soft in engineered with athletic apparel functionality. forget the boxy in itchy cotton. Scrubs figs is focused on design function and comfort. I have two pairs of pants. They have tons of pockets. They're comfortable they look nice and my sister is a nurse and i just gave her a pair. She loves them. Yeah i mean. The company makes scrubs for healthcare professionals. But anybody comer these pants. They're popular core. Scrubs come in a rainbow of colors. They never go out of style and you can mix and match them if you are one of the awesome humans who work in healthcare figs. 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Just kinda crouch down and dwight thinks it is the funniest thing he's ever seen. Oh rains reaction is like if you show that to a five year old. Yeah yeah glee. And just this is the best joke he's ever seen ever seen. It is also. He's laughing as if he's never heard of it all that he made it to be an adult man and has never seen the fake stairs. But but you know. I think you know in this episode. Pam is a little bit of the jim. Pam has taken on the jokester role right. Yeah so ryan. Kevin joined in they ask them to get little things like a pen. You know but then pay pam showing a little bit of pam sas as like how about a cup of coffee. How about you give me a cup of coffee and michel's like well. I have a lot to say about this. Cold open ange. Oh i want to hear it first of all. This was not the original cold open in the script. Somebody has the original script. I've got a shooting draft of grief counseling. Let's hear it. The original cold open was in stamford. It involves yeah and it involves a coworker of jim wanting him to look at photos of her baby. Oh i saw this in a deleted scene and yes she gets really put out with him because she shows him a picture of her husband in the baby in the bathtub. And jim is like finds it off putting is like oh god there in the bathtub and she's like oh you know what. Come back to me when you have kids okay. Like gets really mad at him. Oh this one of the original cold open. This cold open was added later and we shouted at the end of the week because it wasn't ad and we have all those boxes. We had all those boxes from our photo shoot. Only gosh. i wonder if they were inspired. They were like wait. I know what we can do. All these boxes stacked in the middle of the sound stage. We got it a lot of people wrote in and said oh my gosh. How many takes did you guys do of this cold open because if you notice. Steve looks like he's like sweating offi. He's swinging his wedding. He is so tired. Kent told me we did. ten takes. Oh ten times and every time we did a take. Steve went up and down the stairs three times by god. He didn't thirty times. He was giving like a major late. One of those. Like your quads. Says the person who never works out. What are those called. You're getting some quiet and glue and glued and then he had to crawl around anywhere poor guy and can't also told me that we actually did six different camera setups for the scene because they had to move the camera in different places to do the shot when he's crawling when he goes inside the kitchen for his talking head which is technically part of it so yeah but he. He walked up and down the stairs thirty times. Oh my gosh steve. You're but yes differences. Sore well i have two two little things in this opening scene. First of all at fifty one seconds. I think angela kind of smiles. Oh when pam says get a cup of coffee angela. Kind of has a smile like there's a brief moment where i think she's on your side. I just wanted that to be documented. Oh and then. I have a great fan catch at one minute. Twenty seven seconds ready for this. Yeah kelly and chloe harragan and shannon ridge hausky they wrote in and they noticed that when michael returns from the kitchen when he's crawling on the ground that is gyms coffee mug carbon. The jim always uses. Oh my gosh yes. Isn't that a great catch. And i was like. I wonder if that was a little nod to jim so that jim's presence got to be in scranton for low moment. I love that great. Catch guys great. Catch all right. So then we move into michael's office and he's on the phone with jan who informs him that they have lost ed truck and then michaels like well. I have as number somewhere. I can find it for you. Yeah and she's like. No michael at truck has died. He goes out into the room. He breaks the news to everybody. Kelly rushes up gives them a hug. Oh we have a special appearance. By kelly's extensions and her bangs. They may get special appearance. They're hugging michael. Young him some comfort. And then michael approaches pam for a little awkward hug so awkward and lady. I have a track moment. i'm tracking it. I'm trying to again. You know. I love to track the plants at front reception. Are there more new plan. Well whatever happens to them they make an appearance and then we never see them again at three minutes. Twenty nine seconds. I am pretty sure. That's the succulent. We have a succulent suck yelling. Alert succulent alert at front reception will probably never see it again. But when michael hugs pam awkwardly you get a nice shot of that succulent. I'm not kidding. I really need to start a spreadsheet really complex spreadsheet. All the things we're tracking will next we move over to the stanford office and a staff meeting becomes very awkward when josh is super sexist and condescending to karen oh he was he sort of just totally dust hirsch. I know yeah seriously. And then he puts jim in charge of her for the day. Oh gross oh my god is this just like is. This is like a physical representation of man's planing. I feel like yeah. You know jim check in on that. Yeah when you oversee that joan that you check in on that. And she's like yeah thanks. Yeah thanks well. We had a fan catch from brandon. He says at three minutes and forty two seconds when karen is flipping through her stack of papers. I think see a page from the script in her note. Oh oh the brandon you do. I froze it. Oh yeah she's got a little script page to do that. Remember aunt we used to hide pages in our notebooks. I used to keep them in a drawer like inbetween takes. I would open my drawer. And i would be like okay. Wait did i get it. Did i get it to get it. And then i shut my drawer again. Yes we had scripts hidden everywhere on that set that we could just peek at between scenes to make sure we were like on our lines or if we wanted to like prep right before i mean obviously we worked on them and we knew our lines. But when you're doing a bunch of take sometimes like away crop and you just want to do a quick beak but also you know they would have their writers draft and then we would read it at a table read and then they would make a bunch of changes and they would start on monday with what was called the shooting draft. And that's what i have. I have a bunch of shooting drafts leftover but every single morning we would arrive to work and there would be a stack of new pages. They were rewritten scenes. Just for that day they would hindu the pages sometimes that morning and be like okay here. We go guys these for the day. You better believe we were hiding pages in our desks and notebooks but yes brandon. You saw one that that just tickled me because that is so true a good catch okay so now at four minutes two seconds karen is really disappointed. You guys because the chips that she likes. They're not in the vending machine. But i think. Jim felt bad at the way josh treated her and he now wants to make amends right. He wants to try to help her. Find these potato chips And this whole scene about karen and her potato chips just got me thinking about rashida as breakfast order okay. Do you remember her breakfast order. No okay well. We often were inherent makeup together at the same time and i texted her because i was like rasheeda. I totally just had this memory of your breakfast order. Here's the great thing about our caterer. Sergio first of all he was amazing. But if your order became kinda popular if other people liked it you would get your name on the menu. Yeah he would. You would walk up to the truck to order breakfast in the morning. The food truck and you could order a rashida angela size. Because i always wanted everything half portion. 'cause big they're the portions were big and i'm a little person so i'd always say can i half of that. So they started calling it angeles is. So here's what the rashida was and sergio. I ran into sergio awhile back because i was working on a netflix show and he was the caterer for it for many show. Never have i ever. He really care. Your mindy hired him. Which was fantastic. We had a little mini office reunion. And here's the rashida which you can still order from sergio ready. Yes a corn tortilla poached egg black beans avocado turkey bacon talulah and i was texting with about it was like i don't even know how i functioned after eating that like. Why should i have just taken a nap. But that's the rasheeda and don't get that angeles size if i'm not that. Yeah i'd like the rashida anglicized please. Oh my gosh that brought back so many memories molly neck wrote in to say guys. You can see her favorite chips in the vending machine slot. Be one okay. So there's a row of potato chips in the vending machine but apparently those aren't the ones that karen wants yes. Karen wants salt vinegar potato chips. I did a mini deep dive. On herr's potato chips and philadelphia magazine did a ranking of all the herr's potato gyms and salt and vinegar was their number one chip so it might make sense that it was hard to find. Because it's there it's the number one chip Close behind was cheddar. Horseradish nam favourite. Sour cream and onion was number four. Our favorite is there barbecue chips. I love their hers barbecue chips. I don't know where that is and the rain ranking okay. I'm sorry i didn't look that one up. Okay but i do have a script catch for you as well. We're not done talking about this yet. In the shooting draft of the script her favourite chips were going to be salsa verde doritos. Wow so here we go. We're going back to scranton. And creed is in michael's office with dwight and michael and he tells them that. Ed was decapitated and mouse. Like what and he goes. Yeah he was flying down the road. He'd been drinking. And i guess he ran into a semi truck right and was decapitated angela. We got a lot of male about this scene with creed okay. There is a very very big debate online over whether or not creed the character is making it up. That ad was decapitated. Or if it's the truth the truth within the show and you some crazy stories both on camera and off camera. So i can see where this sort of like controversy. If you will around creeds retelling of this is it true. Is it not fiona danielle kelly. Danny mackenzie adam and valerie. They all said how did creed know the details of. Ed truck's death. If michael was the first to know from corporate so their theory is that creeds making it up because there's no possible way for him to know more details than michael and then maria pointed out that creed lies later in another episode and says that dwight was decapitated. That's an episode the return. so she's like maybe creed is just obsessed with decapitation. because he's a character. I don't know well. Here's the thing. I love that you guys were all writing back and forth about this. I think that because creedon new. Ed he actually knew ed maybe there was someone he called. But we decided. Hey let's go to the source. Let's ask jen salata was this story up by creed. The character or was it truth in the sort of scope of the show. Did this really happen. So here's what john had to say. Did ed truck really get decapitated sadly for ed truck. He did really get decapitated. It sounds like creed story. But it actually was a true story in the world of our show. There's no ed truck. And he didn't really lose his head however in the world of the office. He did get decapitated for real. I was. I think it was greg. They came up with the decapitation. i can't quite remember in grade. Can't remember but i remember spending a lot of time. Talking about the way michael's former boss would die and how it had to be something very sudden and jarring so that it could be a shock to michael scott system that he could just freak out one day because he's just living his life and going into the office and then all of a sudden he'll be dead so that i think that is where decapitation came from. Unfortunately i also can't remember who came up with capitated from his head. I feel like it wasn't me. Because i would have been really proud of it if it wasn't and i remember that. But but yeah. The decapitation was real for drunk. Saria truck there. You have it at truck. Rally got decapitated creed actually got some facts. That michael didn't know this is this is the slippery slope with creed and let me tell you. This is true in real life and character. He'll say something and you're like that's not true and then it's one hundred percent true and they'll say something else and it's total bs. Yes yes to the world of creed that is true. Well after this michael decides to break the news to the whole office. I love the little couple. I just loved it. I watched it over and over of michael being like. I don't know how to tell you this and then dwight a truck was decapitated and his is like. You said you didn't know how to say it. You know how to say. Dwight is so literal. Write a letter all. Y'all my god. It made me laugh so hard to we'll lady. I wanna talk about something in this scene because it five minutes thirty seconds i wrote down angeles face more they do. I feel like in this helmet. You have what. I would consider to be a quintessential angela reaction you made so many sour faces on our show and they are so funny to me because i never see you make these faces in real life. They are so not your personality but they have been turned into memes. You are known for this. Just disapproving look. But it's like it's just funny to me because in real life you are nothing like us you know people write in and say oh. You have resting bits face. You've heard that expression right but now they're just calling it resting angela. Martin face listing angela. Face this is cracking me up right now like a whole different way because i am doing this. Show called bear chef hosting family cooking competition. Lady you know. I know those we watch it. We watch it religiously my kids who love the show you guys. It's a cooking show. It's on disney. Plus you have to watch. It's families cooking and competing and angeles host and it is just the sweetest most uplifting most just pure fun. Oh that is so sweet. Here's the thing my family's doing so you're saying that you froze on my face making this. Our face family keeps doing like freezing the the screen. When i'm making the weirdest faces i guess and be our chef. I have learned that. I talk really made it and i will my hands around and it's like i'm jim carey. My kids think i look crazy. Most of the time on beer chef and their favorite thing now is to screen. Grab it and text me. I'm loving it. And angela. Have to say this last friday when it came on. I was like guys guys. We're going to watch beer chef and angeles on an my daughter. Goes you really love angela. All she is your best friend. And i said she is my best. That is so sweet. I know we okay. So yes. I make weird faces everybody. I make weird faces while we're talking about. My word faces jenna in the scene or dwight as angela to put his head on ice. Ray oh yes okay. This is around five minutes forty four seconds right at the top of the scene. I'm getting something out of the vending machine. Did you notice my jacket yet. Lady i have the same time code. Five minutes forty four seconds. I wrote angela wardrobe. What's up what is very odd short. Sleeved jacket what is this item. It is a short. It's purchase or was this made for you. I think someone purchased it are founded in a warehouse like nbc but it is a short sleeve pin striped kind of like address jacket and i jokingly called it to wardrobe my janet jackson jacket. Do you remember. I loved janet. Jackson do you remember rhythm nation her album nation. Okay watch the music video of the song all right. She is wearing this pin striped jacket. Course mine was short sleeve. Hers was like regular but we jokingly called this into the wardrobe department my janet jackson it was so weird it was weird it was it was like short sleeve retail designed it. But it's like you're short sleeve. Blouse is peaking out underneath your short sleeved jacket. It's an odd it designed. It's a total mess but it it makes it makes me laugh to look back on it. It a little bit reminds me of something that you might see on project runway when they had to like. Make a jacket out of another jacket but reimagine the jacket. Reimagine the jacket and they just made it a short sleeve jacket and they were voted off pretty much all right guys so then we have our pretty adorable dwight talking head where he says that he wants to be frozen when he dies even if they have to do it in pieces even if he is decapitated he wants to be frozen because he will wake up stronger than ever and he will have been able to use that time to figure out how he died and how he could have better defended himself. Yeah yeah he's the out at through he's thought through i talking heads. Angela does not want to participate in this into No so now. Michael is on the phone with john and he really doesn't understand why they have a day. Honoring martin luther king. When he didn't even work at under mifflin. Yes but ed. Ed truck sat at his same desk and has died and john's like listen. Do you want to just give everyone the day off. And he's like you don't get these people. They wouldn't want that no they don't wanna go. Home is a robot statue of at truck. The eyes light up. Yeah that's what they want. Well we had a fan question here. From sierra when michael is on the phone with and has an article with a picture of himself in ed on the desk in front of him. He's slowly drags the corner of an envelope down to cover ed's head decapitated was that scripted. Yes that action was scripted. It was in the script and then of course you see they made. The camera made sure to capture it so smart so smart so thought out. Well i really thought dwight's drawing of the robot with the six foot extension cord to the wall so it couldn't attack them. I thought that was fantastic and smile. I wanted to know who drew it. But we probably don't know do we. We don't know we had fan questions about that too. Angie and i tried to find out. But i couldn't get the answer for you. I'm sorry i don't through it in the back just quickly on the notepad. I'm sure. But i feel i feel like i can can say with ninety nine percent certainty. It was not rain. I feel like rain might have doodles on it during the scene but the original drawing was not rain. Yes okay now we have to go back over to stanford. I actually texted ed hounds. I said ed you just made me do the snort. Laugh so hard because we are. Jim and karen are still trying to find these chips. They're having a hard time. But gyms like we're not going to quit and she's like i'm not a quitter in andy's like what a what's the game. What are we playing. And then they don't. We can't find the tips and he's like. Did you check the vending machine now. Like oh no actually we check the fax machine and you see how just off andy gets it them because he knows he knows. They're being smart houses and he just looks at them so seriously and goes. Did you check your but allowed the word. I like watched it twice back to back. So i was like. Oh my god. And then i texted at as it ed. You are so funny in the scene night. Texted him the line and he was like we were like trading texts about it. Just cracking up. We'll that line is in the script. I went and looked. I had to know but i don't know if you noticed in the scene seven minutes thirty five seconds. The smile post. It is gone from jim's computer. You've been tracking that posted late. I've been tracking it. Glory and. I don't know if you notice i mean he's acting more like jim now right like he's got a little thing. He's dazzling lady with his charm He told me he's getting more comfortable. Yeah he's more comfortable and he has an adventure within work right. That's kind of like. This is a boring job to gym. So he always has to find a distraction to get them through the day gyms the guy who makes work more fun yeah right with his little things like this that he does so. He's he's back to his old ways back at the scranton branch. Michael is just obsessed. Now he just can't stop thinking about ed truck and he's really starting to internalize it about himself right like what if i were gone. No one cares here. No one cares and he decides that they probably need some grief counseling They're in denial. Yeah yeah he. He wants to know the stages of grief and he feels like it's his job to take us through them. He doesn't know if he can get us all the way to acceptance but if he can get us depressed he will have done his job Such a great line such good line. I have a really great little tidbit right here. What is it okay so in the deleted scenes. Toby is actually a trained grief. Counselor okay yes and so. You know dwight's like toby should probably lead us through this. He's a trained grief. Counselor and toby starts to walk them through the steps. Third conference room and michael's like you're ruining everything it's gonna take me forever to undo what you've done and of course. Toby was being perfectly normal inappropriate right. Yes michael's like you're ruining it and this whole scene is in the conference room taking place around the conference table. Everyone's sitting there and michael's like that's it. I'm going to have to fix everything. You've ruined. Toby ryan dwight take the conference table out. We're going to take a five minute break while they reset and we're coming back in here and i'm gonna lead you in grief counseling. I about fell out of my chair. Because in my knowledge that is the first time we have ever referenced. The dang conference table. Oh my gosh. And now we know who's always moving it. It's dwight and ryan dwight and ryan where they put it. I don't know but we don't know. It was the first time i ever heard michael say. Okay let's get the conference table out of here. Yes acknowledging that the horford stable can be removed and replaced on a whim. How do they get it out of the doorway. I don't know they probably have to take it apart. But michaels like. We're gonna take five ten minute break and when we get back in here we're going to get down to it. And then the next scene is them with the little ball that they're about to toss around but that's a deleted scene that sets it up. I love that. I love that. Well listen why. Don't we take a break and then when we come back we will meet michael in the conference room for some some of his grief counseling and yeah and maybe good maybe roy. We'll stop by. Who knows he might. Pam might need a little break as well are be right back. Office ladies is sponsored in part by better help you may or may not know but may is mental health awareness month and we are proud to be part of a growing group of people helping to de stigmatize therapy if you're struggling with relationships are having difficulty sleeping are difficulty meeting your goals if you're feeling anxious or stressed better help counselors can listen and help you know. 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And when you're ready to launch us the offer code office ladies to save ten percent off your first purchase of a website or domain that squarespace dot com slash office. Ladies with code office. Ladies for ten percent off your first purchase. And we're back here. We are angela. What did you do during the break. I went and got an ice tea. And i said hi to my husband and i walked up. I guess behind him of quietly. I scared the crap out of him. My break i was like why. Don't give me so tickled i like. I don't know why spooking him makes me laugh. So hard i got a cup of coffee. And then i put the sheets from the washer dryer. And i'm all excited that i'm podcasting and doing the laundry at the same time because you know. I love a good multitasking. Oh yeah oh. I have laundry going lady. I started morning. Oh it's going okay. It's also. I find that when i do laundry. I can't podcast in my closet because you can hear the dryer shirt on the days. I do laundry podcast in my shed. There you go there you go again. It work podcast from home. I'm in my pajamas. I never said that. At the beginning. I noticed i didn't say anything but i noticed i did my hair though. I don't know what that says about me. My harris done. I feel good. Even if i'm still in my pajamas. There you go all right guys. We are back in the conference room. And michael is going to lead us in some grief exercises it involves taking a ball and when you have the ball you can talk about a moment of grief in your life. Michael goes i yeah. Of course michael goosebumps. And he talks about ed truck angela. When he says his feelings about truck it's so good he goes on and on. I asked them to pull a clip so that we could all listen to it together. Oh god. I'm so happy about this. Because i wrote in my journal that in this scene this particular like moment we could not get through an lady. It's not in the script this was i think. An improvisation by steve. Oh my god okay. Well there's one line. I'm not gonna say it yet. Let's listen to it. There's one line that i wrote in my journal. We all disintegrated. So oh my god wait hold on. What is it baby. Sending bird okay. Hold okay. I'll be right back okay. He got one of the dubs. And what's happening. Got a bird sunny as their cat. So here's the thing this. This podcast started with me telling about a squirrel that ada bird and now they're cat just got a bird. I'm telling you this is the bird funeral podcast. Okay okay. i'm so sorry. I by then you guys. We got a grocery delivery and sunny shot out the door. And i guess caught a bird. Right is now. We're doing this episode right now and and you had the squirrel eater burn when you were a big squirrel eating bird now. Your cat has like attacked bird but listen. It's good news. i have good news. We caught sunny. We wrestled him to the ground. We got word out of his mouth and it's a pretty big bird and he was unharmed. Save the bird. The mars okay. Michael would be so happy. What's gonna happen next week for the initiation. I don't know. I don't know i don't want to be initiated. Jenna no please bring that over here. I don't want any okay all right well. That was crazy. And those. Sorry i can't. I can't believe this is all happening in grief counseling. But let's hear we all right. Let's play this clip of michael talking about his grief of ed truck. I lost a truck and it feels like somebody took my heart and dropped it into a bucket of boiling tears. And at the same time somebody else is hitting my soul in the crotch with a frozen sledgehammer inada third guy walks in and starts punching me in the grief phone. And i'm crying and nobody can hear me because i am terribly terribly. Will angela. Can i guess malign that we couldn't get through. Is it frozen sledgehammer. I put i put every one of us broke. When he said the his soul was getting hit in the crotch with the frozen sledge hammer. Yes what i wrote my journal. I said we could not keep it together. Okay i said that's not in the script. I don't know if he was handed that rewrite on the day but it feels like. That's a steve. That's a steve improv. Danny man man that got us good though. Oh man is so good. Will then roy walks in. There's a problem with pam's car. Can she come down to the parking lot and take a look at it. Oh yeah so. There is an extended scene of this in the deleted scenes. So if you thought it was awkward enough their conversation by the car there's it's extended and even more awkward Jonah here's my question for you. How did roy know that she was stuck in the conference room. How how did he know. There was grief counseling. How oh okay. I think you're implying that she called roy and told him about it. I'm just saying how did he know. How did he know. Have take on it. I think michael called daryl down in the warehouse and said bring everyone up for some grief counseling and darryl was like no no that that would explain. Yes that would explain it. We had a fan question from alexa porter. Was there ever talk of pudding. Pam and roy back together or was it all just a setup to mess with our feelings well there was talk in the writer's room that may be roy could win pam back. Remember david denman was made a series regular for season three. Yeah so he's going to be making a lot of appearances the season i can tell you guys. Nothing was decided at this point about what would happen with jim and pam. What would happen with pam and roy. They were feeling it out week to week. I totally remember that. I also remember it was constantly said that maybe maybe in the series of the office. Jim and pam would not end up together in the end but would instead lead one another to their actual true. Love's there was. It had not been decided right. Now that jim and pam one another's true loves when you just said that. I got angry. Oh no i was like no end up together. no well i think maybe. That's why the writing of their characters felt so authentic because the writers were figuring out their relationship at the same time that jim and pam were. Yeah so we're as an audience. We feel that like what will happen. We don't know these are two people on journeys trying to find themselves and hopefully that leads them back to each other. Exactly all right so wa pam and roy or out in the parking lot. I'm sure pam was really hoping she's gonna come back to the conference room and the grief counseling almost over but no they waited for her. 'cause they they waited for her yes. There's a great scene on the dvd. It's a deleted scene and michael is trying to get everyone to loosen up right for the grief counseling. He's like. Hey guys take your jacket saw loosen your ties. Take off your shoes ladies. Let your hair down. And ashley goes. I don't think kevin should take off his shoes. Oh and kevin gets really annoyed and then he has a talking head that he says all right. Listen i have hyper hydrolysis. Okay so we find out that he has this disease that makes your feet sweat really really badly. So i guess he's been taking his shoes off over in accounting. I love this little tidbit. I'm sad it didn't make it in. This explains why. When pam walks into the room kevin's feet are up on her chair and his shoes are all yes. People wrote in and asked about that. It's because in the deleted scene michael's getting everyone to loosen up. And we find out that kevin has how do you say it. Hyper hydrolysis angela. I love that. That's a good catch. That's a good catch good tip tidbit tidbit. It's kindy tidbit. So when pam does finally get back they begin again and is the first one to share who. Oh is this one of my favorite things and dwight shares that he was supposed to have a twin but he absorbed the twin in utero right. We had of man questioned from a reta. Jolly did rainn wilson. Make the whole absorbing twin thing up or was it scripted. Well first of all. I will tell you it is not in the script. I don't know if rain made it up but in the script. Dwight was supposed to say this. He was supposed to say in the blizzard of ninety seven. Twelve shoots died in the basement of our house. They drank beer cider. That had already turned president. Mckinley declared it a national emergency. Now my favorite thing about that is that clearly. It's not one thousand nine hundred ninety seven it's like eighteen ninety seven but that was originally dwight's grief share so here's the thing i reached out to jen's lot about this and this is maybe one of my favorite texts threads of all time. This is what tickled me so much. Is that jensen lada jenna. She's one of our people. She's a deep diver. the i asked her. She went on a deep dive for the whole afternoon ready. So let's say okay. Jen dwight speech about absorbing. His twin is not in. The script was on an improv. Did you tell them. On the day she goes. Oh my god. I don't remember. Oh my god. I love that speech and sadly it wasn't mine. I'm going to start texting. People please hold throughout the day. She said i texted rain. Rain actually thinks it was an adult pitched from paul. Jen said here's a side note. I had a friend that reabsorbed his twin. But i definitely didn't come up with the strength of a baby. She said. I'm going to check with paul where that came from. Please hold she takes paul. Paul says he thinks it was justin spitzer hold one second texting. Justin justin was another one of our writers. This is what justin texts degen back. I still remember that because it was early season. Three and i was so nervous about proving myself. I guess yes i came up with it but the thing that really sold it to me was the last line about him having the strength of a grown man plus a baby and that was something that paul lieber stein added after so i think he deserves a fair amount of credit as well so i'm giving that a slow class. Slow into a big clap. Yes while it was a two hander. That and justin pitched. I love that we got to the bottom of that mystery because it is one of my all time favorite. Dwight 'isms also guys. Justin spitzer is the creator of the show superstore. Justin is so talented. He's so talent. i love him. Love him anyway. I think the only place to go from here is back to our grief circle and we need to hear from some other okay. So we're back into the grief. Counseling scene and stanley has just refused. He is not going to participate. Chunks that ball back at michael. Hey yeah you heard about that. But pam agreed to participate and she's going to share a story about her family but it's clearly just the synopsis for the movie million dollar baby. Yeah i mean again. pam is now the gem. she's the jokester. Yes and then ryan joins in and he shares his story. That is very clearly the lion king. I mean he says the word. Mustafa i mean. Come on but kevin catches on. And he's tickled. He wants to participate. He wants to play the game but he goes too broad too on the nose and he basically breaks down weekend at bernie's and michael's like what hold up that's be and he gets really ticked off. Angela you know what that sound means i do. We get a lot of questions about different behind the scenes moments on the office and we always try our best to give you the real deal just like our friends at state farm. If you want to know how much you can save on your auto insurance by bundling it with your home policy. They will always give you the answers you need when you need them. So we teamed up with state farm to give you the real deal behind your favourite episodes of the office. This week's question comes from tristan homes when everyone is in the conference room for mike. Was counseling session then. The cast improvised movies. That were mentioned or were they scripted. This is such a good question tristen. You were not alone. Several people wrote in about this and wanted to know if these movie plots were improvised or maybe how many other movie ideas were pitched jenner. To my knowledge they were all scripted. That's how i remember it. Yes i looked up the shooting. Draft and pam's million dollar baby story and kevin's weekend at bernie's story are both in the script. However ryan's faked movie story is different. Oh yes in the script. He talks about thelma and louise what he says he says. My mom's sister. Thelma died last year. She was with her friend. Name lou see a cop was trying to pull them over. And i guess the brakes must have not been working because they ended up driving over a cliff and it was a total shock to everyone. Okay well we wanted to get to the bottom of this. So we reached out to the source the writer of this episode gen salata and this is what she had to say for the movies in the grief counseling session. I was really excited. It was really fun to think about. I went off on script and needed to find a way that everybody would sit there with. Michael scott and not share their own personal stories of huge loss. He just didn't seem like they would do that. So i thought they should share movies plotlines as if they were their own lives. And i came up with million dollar baby for you jennifer pam and then also for kevin weekend at bernie's and for ryan had a different one i think. Pj came up with the lion. King i don't quite remember but i think it was. Bj and i love that one. The one i had actually found my first draft of the script. I had ryan. I'll read you the line. It's not as good as the lion came one. But i have ryan say this is almost too horrible to talk about. But i had a cousin who was a big city lawyer and he was visiting an amish town not far from here. He was smothered to death in their grain silo. And then i had michael say ooh. That must've made you really sad. Did and ryan says yes. So i think that was witnessed. So i had ryan's from witness. I wish i could remember some of the other ones. Because i feel like we had other ones that we pitched on but those were the ones from my first draft and then of course the lion king circle of life was fantastic and ryan saying it'll take about an hour and a half to tell it was like such great line that is amazing by the way my college roommate and i used to watch witness and we would say to each other all the time. Be careful out among them english. Thank you that is my move from witness. But isn't that wild jenner. That ryan's ryan's movie went through three versions. It was witness and then it was. I guess thelma and louise according to your script but the lion king is what made it in the show. Yeah clearly they had a lot of all four these movie plots but all of them were scripted. guys all of them written by are awesome writers. We did not improvise. that stuff. love that love that little tidbit. John slava and there you have it. Thank you for your question when you want the real deal on the office where you're ladies when you want the real deal on insurance like a good neighbor state farm. Is there if you want to submit questions about a future episode just head over to office ladies dot com slash real deal and if we pick your question to be are real deal question on the show we will send you a swag fun stuff including an office ladies hoodie and assigned office ladies mug so guys. Michael gets pretty upset. That people are not taking this seriously. You know he says the guy who used to do his job and sit at his desk has died and no one cares and toby tries to talk them down and tries to explain that. This is just life and this morning. He saw bird fly into the window. Downstairs and die. Michael freaks out. Oh my gosh toby toby. What are you thinking. He totally attached to that now. Michael's grief for. Ed is somehow wrapped into this bird. It's going to be a whole thing. Yup he runs downstairs. He freaks out he wants to see. If the bird is alive. I had a fan catch here from kendra at fourteen minutes. Thirty three seconds when michael runs through the front door to get the bird. He runs past the security desk and the security guard is not hank. Oh good catch ya. Different security guard. Hank took a personal day. You guys i guess so. Well michael attempts to resuscitate the bird in the kitchen angela. Pleased so michael is determined to save this bird. He brings it into the kitchen angela. Martin is not pleased. She's like no. That shouldn't be in here. Get it out while she is not pleased in angeles. she's not wrong. Thank you thank you. You're welcome you're welcome. We had a fan question from ellie friedlander. She wants to know. Was that a real dead bird. No no no ellie bird. I reached out to fill. He told me that he found three dead. Fake bird options and presented them to jen roger. Our director in greg. They chose the one that you see in the show and angela. I have to say when he texted me back that he presented the three dead birds. I imagined in my head that they were on a silver tray. Because remember phil would always present you your props on a silver tray s yes and i was just imagining phil. Were they on a silver tray and he said you know me too. Well this these are the moments in our show. Where i'm like. Hey babe how's your day. What'd you do today. Well i had to find three fake dead birds. He's like when great goes home and his wife. Suzanne like hey hun how to go shooting today. He's like great. I picked dead bird. Yeah i the yellow one. I made my dead bird selection. Yes exactly well. Michael then tells the staff attention attention. We are holding funeral for this bird at four. Pm in the parking lot be there. It's on geno now. I think it's time to check back in jim and karen. Oh yes have. They found the chips. Where are where are they in their search for this very hard to find potato chip bag. That's actually in the vending machine that is in the vending machine that according to a fan catches be one in the vending machine. It's right there waiting. We'll karen kind of impressive. Jim because she decides to call montreal canadian trio factory to see if they have them and she speaks french. Malang may we we a lot of people wrote in about this breanna bullard and many many others want to know does rashida. Jones actually know french so did rashida. Since we're already texting about her breakfast. Order ch probably like what is happening. This is what she said she goes. No at this time. I didn't know french. I worked really hard on that line. But a few years later i ended up going to france to do a french immersion school in the south of france. Maybe this scene was the beginning and it got me inspired. Wow that's crazy. She did not speak french but now she does yes. I was like a french. Immersion class in the south of france zones. Amazing same same. I took french in high school. You did oh a story about that. Actually yes and i tell this real quickly yeah. I took french in highschool from sister landry. I went to a catholic school sister. Landry was my french teacher. And i dreamed i told you guys this before i dreamed from the time i was a little girl that i would one day go to paris and then in my thirties finally happened. Of course at this point. I was now very far from my french training. couldn't really speak french but leeann i. We went to little farmer's market. And i guess in france you don't touch the fruit. Oh okay you don't select your own produce you point to it or you trust the person selling the produce to select the best pieces for you. I didn't know this okay. Oh my gosh. I would have been i pick up things i thump. I know lady do it. if you go to. A farmer's market in france here's my tip for you don't touch don't the melon in france. Okay now all through this trip. We'd been going to restaurants and we'd been going to tourist places and i was just fumbling with my french. I couldn't get anything out. I could read the menus. But i couldn't order anything i was. I thought i was going to really help us. But i couldn't help us. But here we are. Were at this little market. I have done the faux pas. I believe that's french. The faux pas of touching the fruit and this woman turns to her co worker and goes off on me. She in french is calling me like kind of like they're dumb era. He's basically whatever it was. Just these americans come here and they touch our fruits. She was like on on in french. I i was this mixture of just like embarrassed but also felt like. I'm sorry. how was i supposed to know that. I i a nice person. I might not person. I'm sorry. I picked up that banana. Angela this fluent french spilled out of my mouth at this woman and in french i suddenly had the command to say. I'm so sorry. But in the united states we pick our own fruit. I didn't know about your custom. I apologize but you don't need to say nasty things about me. And the look on her face was like oh 'cause she certainly didn't think that the fruit touching american could speak french or understand french and by the way i didn't know that i had such a command of the language until i was insulted in a farmer's market in paris and then you're superpower came out yes you know how like some some superheroes. Their power doesn't come through until they're in crisis. I was like mom lifting a car off for maybe exactly all right so now. We're back at thunder. Flynn and kelly is crying by the copier in annex. Yeah she is in tears. Michael thinks he's finally made a breakthrough until she reveals that. She's really crying about her plans with riot. I have a question about the scene. Okay what is up with this second copier in annex. Is it always there. I have never seen it before what is happening. I think they just rolled it in from the bullpen for the scene. I feel like they did and they did it because in the background in the break room. Dwight is in there. You can see him over. Kelly shoulder trying to shove this bird into an empty soda. Can i feel like that's why they had to put the copier they're to combine these two moments to have a reason for michael to be back there right and for him to see over his shoulder and all of that exactly that copier did not live there in that hallway. They just shake you there. Yeah i did not think so. I feel like i will track. It's gonna be a soft track. But i am to look for this copier more. I think it should be a very soft track. Because i i would be bold enough to say. I think it might be the only time in the annex. I know that. I said exhaust that setting myself up for some fan mail of like angela actually in season eight. But i'm just saying i don't. I don't think that copier visits the annex very often guys if you're watching another episode and you see that copier right to us you can go to our website office ladies dot com and submit questions or comments or write to us at office. Ladies at ear will here. we don't wanna know. We wanna know all right but this leads us into one of my favorite dwight talking heads where he explains he's justifying wise he shoving this bird into a can because he grew up on a farm. Yeah and guys. They reburied his grandfather in an old oil drum. Okay hold on. I mean the same. The same grandfather that was buried in the suit that he wore like. What's happening. How many times is this guy been brought up out of the ground. This is one of my favorite things about our show. Theresa s also loves it. She wrote into say in casino night. Dwight says that his grandfather was buried in the tuxedo. He's wearing yeah and in grief counseling. He said his grandfather was reburied. An oil drum reburied reburying. What is the story behind whites. Grandfather was he zoomed for some reason and did dwight take the tuxedo off his dead grandfather for reburying and then folded then. He folded them up and tried to shove him a drum theresa. That's exactly what it sounds like. This is some of my favorite writing on our show in that moment and casino night. Dwight just says he's wearing a tuxedo. My grandfather was buried in it. That's it we say no more about it and then three episodes later. He's like when my grandfather was reburied. And it's like slowly. It's all coming together. Sort of sort of not completely is one of my favorite bits of how our show is written. So now we're at reception. Right and pam has prepared this really beautiful box for the bird funeral. I mean it is amazing. The attention to detail. She asked why if he would perhaps wanna play a song. She's like do you have your recorder. He's like always always has way always. And and you know. Pam has this really sweet talking head where she's like well. You know what. I didn't anticipate i'd be throwing a bird funeral today but you never know working here. That's right. we had a fan question from andrew. S did jenna make the box for the bird funeral herself or was that a fill shea creation either way how was it constructed. Well guys i did not make it fill shea made it. He said he actually made a few options and presented them again to jen and roger and greg. They picked the one that they liked and then fill had to make multiples of it. Because you know it gets set on fire. Yeah so he had to make a whole bunch of those. I looked up in the script and it was described in the script. So here's what phil had to go off of. It said it is a hollowed out. Tissue box with tissue padding in the center for the bird to lie on the outside is decorated in tissue paper and has a tiny little toothpick cross. My favorite part are the the handles. The handles made out of the pencils. So that was a phil addition. That was just fill. Yeah yeah he needed to make sure that tiny bird. Casket had little bars for his the pallbearers. Tiny the pallbearers. Yes we are going to wrap things up in stanford now guys. Jim found the chips. He left him on her desk. He's quite pleased with himself. Yeah i really wanted my mom to record a sting. That said flirty. Jim but we we couldn't we couldn't get together off. We'll be seen stroke people crazy. I went back and looked at some of the comments from when this air. Oh here's what they said the d. temp said i feel kind of weird about jim and karen but hartman said The karen thing why oh. Why am i liking it. But i am wo. I remember people freaking out about it. Well kelly said. Jim and karen have great. Chemistry and mandy said okay. I'm sorry i can't believe there are actually people out there who are okay with jim. Hooking up with karen. That's what i remember but cam es said this. Jim likes to buy chips for all his ladies chen. I'm with you kim as pam. I'm like oh. is this what you do. You just find all the girls their favorite chips. That's his game. Are we saying that right. Oh is that you're doing i. One hundred percent sure. We are giving us in a way. That's his game all right. Should we go to this bird funeral. Angela i can't wait. Please take me there. Well we're out in the driveway really next to the warehouse. This was a an actual parking lot that we used and it was right next to the warehouse. And that's where we film. This michael is very moved by pam's beautiful coffin. It starts with pam saying a few words about the bird but we we slowly realised that pam is speaking about the bird. But she's speaking to michael about his feelings about death and loss and about his aloneness. She talks a lot about how just because the bird was alone doesn't mean he was unloved that he was very loved and respected by the other birds and then she sings a song. I was very surprised by this for pam. She really put herself out there. She sings on the wings of love. She's accompanied by dwight on the recorder. Michael berry moved. He's holding hands. He's swaying he's tearing up with a lot of questions about this scene Richard h really covers them. All he says did rain already know how to play the recorder. Did janna singing the entire song or did the singing end where the scene was cut. He also wanted to know. Did we rehearse our duet. Here's what i can tell you. Yes rain knew how to play the recorder. Remember he played it in. Take your daughter to work. Day is actually very good but listen to all of the instruments. That rain can play in real life. Angela he can play the recorder piano clarinet saxophone bassoon guitar drums xylophone bells and a little tube and baritone. What are you a one man band. I knew you play the bassoon because your book. The bassoon king is great. So i knew that. But i didn't know you were walking. One man show. Suffice it to say rain knew his stuff and we did rehearse but just a little bit right before the scene rain and i practice separately. I had listened to the song over and over again to memorize the words. I had to sing the first verse through the chorus. That's what i had to do over and over again. I was so nervous while i thought you did. Fantastic thank you. I have a fan question from the scene jenna okay. So chelsea wrote in and said was angeles. A man improvised a lot of people wrote in about this because it was so quick. After amazon talking people wanted to know if i improvise that no that was scripted and folks wanted to know. Why did angela do it. And i said. I think personally the direction that you know they gave me was. That ankle. Had had enough of this charade. This bird funeral. Pam had gone on and on enough a man i want. I'm done and that that's how you finish it. Yes amen. i'm finished man stopped talking. Yes exactly speaking of a script. I have a script catch. Okay so you know. In the scene we set the box on fire in the shooting draft of the script. We buried the bird. There was a scene where michael and dwight are digging a hole outside and then we all gather around this whole and it got changed to fire. But i don't know why. I think maybe angela there was really no grass in this area that we shot and he had no there. There was a hedge with me. Be like i don't know three feet of dirt like yeah there was i mean not even there is a deleted scene where michael and dwight or to dig a hole there and then the business on the other side yells at them and they run away. Oh okay well there you go what. We had another fan question about this fire. Then clara johnson wants to know. Did you actually set the bird on fire. Yes real fire. Fake bird can't told me they had to hire a special effects guy to oversee the fire and the extinguishing and they had to get a special permit to be allowed to set the fire and he said we did three takes three takes. The fire and phil told me though that the special effects guys were worried that the fake dead bird might give off toxic fumes when it burned so they actually took it out of the box and just put it wad of toilet paper and they're not toilet paper. I know to sail too soon. Angela too soon and then. Finally we had a fan catch from peter. Kay he said. I noticed the box was burned in some shredded paper. Could this be further evidence. That pam does use the shredder. Look at that nice. When peter it would appear so well you know jen actually left us a really great message about this scene and she was talking about the fact that we never got to shoot outside and when we did everyone would get really excited and she explains a little bit about that. So sam can you play that one thing that i remember from the grief counseling episode. Is that when. I went to the sound mix. They were showing the playback of the episode and it was still a little bit unusual when the characters went outside. It was still a little bit of a treat. So we get to this purge funeral scene and our characters are outside and i just remember hearing a kind of an enormous amount of birds and i think that It was because we were outside. It was because we had a bird funeral home. It was so exciting for the amazing sound people who do a fantastic job to put a lot of bird noises in because for the longest time when we're inside the office they're just putting dot matrix printer sounds and just faxes and old fashioned office noises so it must have been such a treat in a field day to be able to go outside and here birds and especially on theme with the funeral so i remember her slight exaggeration but it sounded a little bit like alfred hitchcock. The birds win. I when i first heard the playback for the bird funeral but they quickly made wonderful adjustment and it was the right amount of outside. Birt's i love that. I love that are sound mixers got so excited. They put like birds and they're like ok guys. They're not ready birds outside. Let's dial it back. Yes yes What good insight from jan. This week yes. Thank you so much. John salata for sending in those clips and for texting me. You are amazing. We so appreciate it and thank you for shida letting me bug you about all kinds of random things yesterday and also fill shea and ken. Suborn ac thank you guys for helping us make this podcast so great and thanks so much for letting us take a clip from your book. Is everyone hanging out without me and other concerns. it's hilarious. We love you mindy so there you have guys. That's the grief counseling episode. Did we do it. are we leaving depressed. I hope not. I hope not and hopefully next week. We won't have any more dead birds to tell you about in our lives. Stay safe out there. Flying friends stay safe out there. Everyone we love you. Thank you for listening to office. Ladies office ladies produced by your won't jonah fisher and angela. 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Can the Sistahood Circle Be Unbroken?

Shades of Strong? | Shifting the Strong Black Woman Narrative

1:01:49 hr | 2 weeks ago

Can the Sistahood Circle Be Unbroken?

"It sure all right guys. Welcome back to shades of strong. What's up with this happening. How all the things. We are now at episode to abc's season four of shades of strong. And y'all it's been good and by it's been good. I mean the trailer was good in episode long as good a ways to go in the season. Yeah it's been really really good. I hope that you've had a chance to check out the trailer and also check out season. I'm sorry episode while we're nanny an hour just sharing some appear experiences because the disease is beings. We lost to the kate so netting anna in episode one talked about some of the things that we personally laws as as a result of adorning ourselves with the super warming cake. So yeah hope you take that out if you know who i am. Welcome back to the show as as queen if you are tuning in for the first time i'm sure and i am the creates or of the. She's the strong pi caz but A strong is not just. A podcast is a global. Where natty and i are working diligently to disney manso the miss and the stereotypes of the strong black bomber by creating safe and secret spaces for black women to ankeny unmasked. And an. Hi still like i say you are new year. Welcome to the kingdom unpack. Stay awhile and linda introduce you to my side cake. Not fill in bradshaw aka. Natty wants is up honey. How all the things in your world pretty good pretty good. Hello everyone natty you guys who are new to nettie is my co-host she has been co hosting with me for about two years. Now natty i think. I think this is my third my third year doing yoga and so yeah he's been around. She graciously agreed. When i say hey girl come help me do business. He was like yes. Yes anything uses eighty eight. Yeah i got your girl cigar. He got my bag speaking hub. I got you today's episode. We are going to be talking about sisterhood in friendship and all those things in grow talking about talk about how black women have each other have each other's backs and how sometimes you know things happen and they don't anymore so we're going to be talking about the broking the broken since two and so. Yeah like i said can't be comfortable. Stay awhile and yeah. So that's what's gonna happen in today's episode but before we dive into the topic for today. I just have a really quick question for you by. Are you libya pope. Emily's keating cookie lying our mary. jane. Paul are which of these super long president do identify with the most. If you don't know not gosh you because we created a quiz to help you figure out which superwoman archetype is most dominique in you and we will love you. Just take the quiz and then until your results were. When you do that you can do it on is you can go with air. Whatever whatever your favorite social media platform just do a yellowish age strong everywhere but anyway so it really only takes about four minutes and yeah so matty. Which one do you think you are. You know what. I honestly don't know i'm mike. I don't think i'm lydia pro. I don't think i'm her yet. I don't think i'm cookie some one or the other and i'm just not sure so that means nat is gonna take the quiz right the quiz and then she's going to come back and tell us wish one what results were in whether or not she agrees with them. Like how accurate was you know what nancy. We should both do that. You know what we definitely should. I don't want to do and do you want to come back and share our results and let you know we thought they were accurate or not. So definitely we. Won't you take it. And you can take the quiz by going to shake the strong dot com forward slash food or woman. Cui is like. I say it's super finding only takes about four minutes and we all got four minutes to spare right. Yeah we do so now back to the subject at hand like i said we're gonna be talking about sister who broken friendship and all of those things. So here's the deal. If you are black if you are female if you are over the age of well seen hail you probably been hurt by another female sharma buzz. We get over that You know passed it. For other others of us we carry that on a one and on and it becomes somewhat difficult for us to move past it through it and being to begin and began to make new friendships. So we're going to talk a lot about that. Today there are several things they contribute to broken friendships and broken sisterhood. Some of those things are candidates backstabbing. The knee are the need to What we feel we have to compete with one another and so we're going to talk about a lot about that. Of course there's the media who is not doing us any favors by constantly beating black women against each other and you. You can see that in any of the real housewives franchises. 'cause i want you live. I too because i do watch them. But i do often feel like sometimes they deliberately pit black women against each other you know because they can say all day and all night that those shows are not scripted but it is scripted to some degree like i feel like they lead them into the conversations that they want them to happen sometimes. Those conversations compensation that they know are going to bring about cattiness and backstabbing and drama. And all of those things. So yeah like i said. I'm not here to judge. I do watch him. Housewives is actually one of my favorite ones. But any who. That's what i was saying. Some abud he opened mel's wounds and we continue to trust our friends and listen. We continue to build friendships with the other others. Others of us who do not move through as easily so we'll talk about some of the things that are contributing to broker friendships and some of the things that are contributing to Broken solicited personally. Think that didn't correct me if i'm wrong. That are if you think. I'm wrong because i'm always right is really no different from being in a romantic relationship. I think because once you're in any type of relationship. I think once you're trust mushoo betray once that trust has been broken is hard to get back to a space or a place where you trust someone to not hurt you again. So what we do is as women. We built up this wall. And i call it the superwoman. She'll and as shield is to protect us from the people that look like the person who hurt us and sort of purpose of this episode. That's you know so we we work diligently to make sure that oshii heartbeat news time and so now. I don't trust anybody that looks like hard to not hurt. So y'all go talk a little bit of a little bit about that as well. Natty national like. I said we share some experiences in So but in season to remember. We did episode sisterhood in season. Two natty and talked about being we talked about our experience of being hurt by people that we trust it you know are stuck with our friendship and all of that and the title of the episode is suspected smelling your face. So if you want to check that out in season two but today we're going to dig a little deeper into the sisterhood wound. What causes it. How we keep keep it from happening and how we can star healing from it when it happened and so like i was telling natty earlier because you know always just be thrown with hers. But i gave her a little warning before we came on today. When i was thinking about this topic came by things that that i think contribute to broken friendships and broken sister. So what i'm going to. I'm going to read randomly. Select them and then have natty to tell me what she thinks. Causes this particular thing. And what she thinks the antidote useful and then of course you know i'll shamrock houses wale. You're right an addy. I'm ready away. Oh yeah let me spend a wheel. Okay let's see we got so the first one is competition. So what do you think causes black women to compete against each other. Do you think competing against each other can be a hindrance in friendship or easing even calls rifts in friendship at what did you think the roomies for that. Okay so the second part of your question do you think. Do i think that competition or being in competition with each other can cause stress in friendship. Absolutely absolutely i am of the mind that in a relationship whether it's like you said earlier. Romantic one or a platonic. When like your your friendship you should be on the same team. You shouldn't be adversarial. You should be on the same team. That's how you have someone back can't have someone back if you don't feel like you're on their side and when you're on the same team you're on each other side so having something having a dynamic where you're competing with each other feels. It feels icky to me now. I know that there are people that think it's just fine but it feels it feels academy it. It makes me. I don't like it. So i definitely think that being a competition kid can so seeds of of damage in harm and in a friendship. What do i think causes us to compete with each other We'll there are few things feel like. There's a list. And i'm not gonna go through the whole list but i will touch on a couple of things. One of the things is well it already. It always just comes right back to white. Supremacy doesn't when we have when we have internalized stuff like internalized hatred internalize anti blackness. Internalized oppression internalized misogyny. That leads us to not feeling good about ourselves. And so we end up getting into this absolutely vicious cycle of doing things that we think are going to make ourselves look better and it's not out of a motivation of really caring for ourselves and having compassion acceptance for ourselves. Really of a motivation of to everyone else. And so. I know we've discussed before. But i firmly believe that's what perfectionism comes from. That's where people pleasing and beating ourselves up over things this inane obsession with productivity. I think all of that stuff comes from that. So what happens in my opinion is when we get into that vicious cycle of doing everything we can to make ourselves look good to other people whatever that image is in our in our heads if we see someone else who's also having the exact same struggle and we think they're doing a better job of it than we are then bam next thing you know. We're in competition so well. For example i yeah. I i went to college so yeah so did i. I got my degree from from. I dunno insert school here while i got my degree from like howard or something really prestigious. Hec well i went to harvard. Okay we'll find while. I've got two masters okay. I've got two masters in a phd. You see what it's like. Oh and then we're like you go girl hi fi but deep down where mad that we're not the other person it's very it's weird and so you try to enter into friendship with a purse with a person with that kind of mentality and they had that alley and that actually isn't a friendship that's actually toxic. So i think us happy. These areas within ourselves that we may be having addressed yet have acknowledged or were not currently working on dismantling within ourselves and we are not at a place where we truly have acceptance and compassion love for ourselves. That leads us open for that kind of mentality and then that makes it hard to make friends because we end up coming in contact with a lot of women that have the same struggles and then nothing comes of it because it's just constant competing you don't feel like you can be vulnerable with someone because you know that they're going to judge you because i would never do that. I wouldn't you know all these kinds of things. So i think that's where it comes from. That's why we have a lot. You know we talk about it all the time. We have a lot of work to do with dismantling all this crap in our lives. And i think that's the solution right. This really comes down to a seeing ourselves and our full humanity and accepting it and lugging and celebrating it and embracing it. Because i can't. I can only be in right relationship with someone to the extent that i'm in right relationship with myself. I can only love someone well enough well enough or as well as living myself so if i'm not moving myself well i can't if i'm not loving myself well if i'm not if i don't have that compassion for myself i haven't dismantle that stuff for myself. I can't possibly be your friend. Because i'm not going to allow you to show up in your full humanity and vulnerability in if you ha- if i'm working on that within me and you're not working on that within you then you can't be my friend it won't work. It just won't work because one of us will be in competition with each other with the eta person so it only works if we're both doing that work within ourselves gently slowly and deliberately because each time the person that we're gonna remember await were on the same team and we're truly going to have the other person's back we're truly going to be there to catch them with fall. We're going to be there to to grab them by the hand holding up to be there to call them in as opposed to calling them out. We're gonna be there to nurture them the way we nurture ourselves and we won't ever shame them or vilify him personally or in private or in public. That's like that's what a right relationship looks like to me and that is a relationship that is devoid of all competition. So i do think that's the solution is doing that. Work of ridding excels disentangling ourselves from what white supremacy has taught us. And what patriarchy has taught us that. We're less stan. And that were that. Resources are scarce. And we've got achieved the most we've always got achieve more than yet person. Otherwise can't win. We certainly can't win together. We've gotta do that within our own individual lives and then connect with other women who are also doing that work. We don't all have to be on the exact same page but we definitely need to be in that same journey like we might be taking different routes that we need to at least know that we're on that same journey. I agree inches. The piggyback off while you were saying and doing the work. I think that if we can look at. I don't know if i want to work this way But a weakened. Look at as i look at our friendships as an opportunity to partner with and collaborate with one another. While we're doing doing the work. I think movement is that we really are not in competition with each other so if some one had something they like. I wish i had that. Or why does she in with this. And it didn't happen to be if you will look for an opportunity to partner with her and what whatever you need or what are collaborate with her whatever it is. I think that opens the door or closes the door to competition. Because now we're in this thing together to kenner. We're working on this thing together even if some college that ivy league school are you know really Popular hvac you even if that look for opportunities where you can invite her into your space and say hey come talk to whomever about you know whatever you got going on and so look for opportunities to partner with and collaborate and i think that entire closes the door to competition but like matic saying evening in that you have to do your work i. We're always talking about doing the work and we talk about during the work because a lot of these things are barbed in us from chow and his birth in a in in his unintentional. Like you got you got your sports. Were competing in that. Sometimes it's just. It's hard to weird. Were competing for student body president and still hansel and you don't like is like the whole world is a competition for sometimes when you are in a strange ship are listed who is is hard to disconnect yourself from that competitive spirit from the competitive spirit because these things are competitive in nature but we have to learn to disconnect from the competition and look for opportunities for partnerships and collaborations. So yeah i think competition definitely contribute to broken friendships and things like that. If we are not able to disconnect from that spirit that is embedded in okay so while you were talking about what has spent the wheel and the next one is judgment. What i'm gonna know what that looks like when you think about judgment and you touched on a little bit while you were talking. What does what does judgment look like in a friendship. How can we really need that judgment. Looks like literally whatever your friend is doing and the thought comes up. I would never do that. Congratulations you just exactly couldn't be me could relate. You know like okay. Good for you. You know where's your crowd you've got to put it on. You want us to clap like what like so. What if you would never do that or that. Could never be you. And i'm with by me saying this. This is not my. It's not my intent to judge anyone who's done this because i've also done it. We've all been there. Yeah done it like oh couldn't be me or even like you know when we as black woman do this whole thing where we see a woman going through something or just you know moving in certain ways in her life and we're like oh you way better than me. I won't be putting up if they'd been. Yeah i it's like okay cool. Have you ever even been in that situation or maybe not but even if you have listen we can call each other since all the time but the fact is even if we aren't now we've all been that simple we have so this whole like when it went backwards says you better than me. You know what that really means. No you're not. I mean i think you're an idiot. I say it could have been me because there could what she's really saying i would have i would already. I would have already taken care of that right. You know what what she say they still don't were so we're constantly judge like oh girl if you like it i love it if if if you like it i love it. She definitely does not let it. She definitely does not like it and she thinks something as you shouldn't be limiting either. So i think like what you said with the last point like some of the stuff is embedded in us if you like support beyond podcast episode around the work of uncaring and giving yourself spicer redefine. What strong looks like for you or to redefine what showing up in challenging. Times can look like for you. Nancy and ottawa to support you. Our first cohort of the not yet. Superwoman healing circle starting in june. 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You were before by society and circumstances tall to kate while also helping to visualize your life without the burden of a simple woman cake but costs were participation is thirty dollars in space is limited to twenty women as a strong dot com or slash. Not your superwoman to get on the weightless now back to the ship. It's part of a slight culturally. This is how we move and a lot of ways. But i think the shadow aspect of all of this is some of the stuff that is us as a culture is born from something really really diabolical and and harmful so the whole judging Peace we want to do anything we can to separate ourselves from that person. And i just wonder if we if we were to dig deeper and ask ourselves why we're doing that. Who are we doing that for. Will we try to point out too that. Oh her like am i. One of the air quotes goodwin's. Is that what you're saying like. Who are you saying that to. Who are you trying to signal that too is it is it. Black man is white people because it really is. It's like no. I like her better marketer. In who's eyes and that doesn't come from us. That comes from some place else. You know what i mean. So yes we've adopted it. We've internalized that deeply in. Its we've turned it into our culture so to speak but some of our cultural cases are very are very harmful. It's not saying that we're deliberately trying to be harmful. It's ways that we've learned to cope with trauma that was visited upon us so in in lieu of healing because maybe we really weren't given the true space and safety and time to heal. We've learned to cope by dual. All of these things in one of those things is is really judging harshly like we do it all to see it all the time especially nowadays younger generations online. Like if someone says something that makes a lot of sense organs very supportive of other human beings time you'll see somebody pop up in. This isn't which is black people. Just in general will come up. Oh well he's not going to sleep with you sleepy or she's not going to go out on a date with you for saying it's like wow so this person trying to say something kind. Supportive of another human. Being is being sam okay. Cool alright did know that. But i see it all the time and so it's all this judgment all of it. Everything is if you like it. I love it or no. It couldn't be me. oh no. I can't relate. Oh gosh. I can't imagine being you and in. These are things that i do like. Oh gosh imagine. Being that i usually. I'm talking about books. When i do when i do that. Like that are exhibiting extreme whiteness. I'm like oh gosh it's like that's my my. My first instinct is to judge. And i don't see how that's actually helping anything or anybody because if we're back quick to judge other people it's because we have had a lot of practice. Why hours ten thousand hours of practice judging ourselves and that's what we're trying to stop doing. We're trying to learn to stop doing that. So yeah it still comes back to our own internal and what. I think they're all gonna come. They're all going. Come back to work because you really think about judgment. I think what happens in that in that circumstance is that we have somehow placed ourselves up on a pedestal and are now looking down people and saying i'm different thinking i'm better than you or we've done just the opposite we're operating from a place of not enough newness and so we eat. We easily go into that space of impious jealousy. And so rather than now saying i'm different than you are better than you. What we're really saying. Is i'm less than you. And how dare you try to do something more than what i'm doing because i wish i could be. You wish i could be. Uso that comes from spirit of ninety nothing in order for us to fix that like you were saying that is that we have to number one show ourselves compassion and humility so that we don't get caught up in in in being envious jealous and all of those things and then as we're showing as we're being compassionate with ourselves week that that compassion spills over into the lives of other people. So i think if we can learn number one to be unbel- and being like oh. I'm not going to be on but i work hard. I did this is not even a bow. No county so work that you've done. What is saying i did think and now what i'm going to do is i'm going to see how i can help. Other people do thing is not getting way up here and saying you know what. I'm up here move on his penalty. You're benico People are saying being unbel- they're they're they're just saying yeah. You did the word. But don't put up on his up upon his pedal now you think you're better than someone else so compassion humility i think is the cheer for judgment in relationship from compassion with our sale. God other people and then even when you know we we've gone we've done all the things to remain unbel- knowing that you're here but you better than anyone else because you made it there right right. I just i would just like to quickly add to to what you're saying about humility because we i think you're right. We have a very distorted idea of what humility actually is and so we bristled at the thought of being humble because we normally think of being humble as being super low or you know like the less than kind of thing and that's that's what it is it all all it is. I can see my own humanity. And i can be honest dag daring ago and because i can see my humanity that means i can also see yours and i can see that. We're both humans. Were both the same. So no even though i may have accomplished xyz and you have an accomplished that that doesn't mean any better than you think because our humanity our innate worthiness lies in our she mandy. It doesn't lie in what we do or what we've accomplished for having accomplished. That's what humility is. It means that i can. I can celebrate my accomplishments when i had done like you said by worked hard and i've done these things but that also means that i'm not going to look at someone who's outbound on the rock and maybe living on the street somehow. I'm better than them. Because i'm not all right around. An expert is candy mid remained here. Stop my dear. Oh dear oh dear oh dear oh dear you know. What an avid mitt i i. I love a good piece of hot gossip. I think that's what they say. Kid say i do especially like in celebrity world like hearing gossip about celebrity hug and cuddle. It's like you like the real housewives. That's like me with knowing all the all the ins and outs of these different celebrities and stuff like and i'm not up on all of them. There's a bunch of. I don't know but like things that pieces of pop culture media i am into. I usually the who's involve factors or the musicians and all that kind of stuff like hearing little to bits about their lives and stuff it's like. Oh yeah yeah. And i love listening to an handful of pop culture podcast so it's I know that cattiness this is wrong. It's like you like you said like the real housewives franchise is trash. I know what they're doing. They're putting these women against each other ratings and money. They're lining their own pockets. They're not probably not paying. These women will and yet it's trashed. And also i watch. It was wrong. I oh gosh. It's vice. After so i. I don't really know the right things to say here. Other than cattiness was wrong reshape. It is wrong. But i think it goes back. I think it goes back to one of the ones we talked about earlier. Gosh don't remember because you mentioned it just a little bit. It may have been in a judgment piece. I think it goes back to celebrating each other. You know when when he comes out rather than looking looking at parsing in saying oh she thinks better than i am. I think we have to lie as women. We have the larger. Celebrate each other in our accomplishment and not it'll quarter with somebody else indifferent circle and say. Hey she she did at the in acting funny because all the time she maybe. She's not acting funny. Maybe just your insecurity. That's making that she's active funded so when you know when she does think then show her. You know i'm on your side. One hundred percent. Let's celebrate together and be real and authentic. We you're celebrating. Don't fake it like if you genuinely happy for her being be happy for her. But if you're not in don't fake it go away and come back when you can be genuinely happy. Yeah yeah yeah it. And i guess this is one of those times where that really just to me. It's really dumb cliche. But i think it works situation like if you can't say something kind than just i'll say because you're right like you can't be genuinely happy for somewhere. They don't deserve that energy from you. First of all and second of all what's going on with within us those banks that knowing your room yeah And and this is not this again. This is not a way of coming down on someone. Because i've i've seen so many black women that i admire achieved so many great things. Sometimes i get jealous. And i'm like oh my gosh. I want to be able to do that too. And then i get scared and with what if never gonna be able to do anything like that. No matter how hard i try but then it's like okay but doesn't mean. I wish this woman weren't doing that. No that's not what it mean. Does it mean. But i'm not happy am genuine that i'm not geneva burton. No that's not what it means. I can still find that that place. That's like oh my gosh. I'm really genuinely happy for her. And i want her to be as visible as she wants to be in this world instill feel safe. I want her to be celebrated on. Going to be really really pissed when i see any blowback against her kind of the way we see all kinds of blow back against you. Know like beyond. Say or serena williams or it's it's it or megan thee stallion wh- cardi whoever we see all kinds of blowback in again. It's weird how you see it. Mostly george black women in its really gross. It's like no. I'm and that's how i know like that's like my my spirit felony note. You really are genuinely happy for this person because you get legit angry when you see people criticizing and you don't even know them and then you're like how dare you after all the things that they've accomplished it too. So you've it's like the only way you can have. That kind of reaction is if you again are working within yourself to heal beings within yourself and learning to love and appreciate it have compassion for yourself like that's the the most important thing it again if you haven't even started doing that work or even worse if you can't ignore college that that's work that needs to be done. You will be that person that someone's going to have to tell you. Oh well if you can't say anything nice the same thing at all because obviously you feel some type of way about this person has. There's been people that have done me wrong like personally done me wrong in the past and i see them accomplishing and it's like okay. I be in ten years ago. I would've felt. I really would have thought sideways about much mess. I really felt now. I'm at a place. That's very very different. It's like okay. Is something coming up inside of me. What was what is my body feeling right now. Is my body feeling weird if it is the ninety to go back to a need to forgive this person again because my goal is to be genuinely happy for that person and i'm talking about have done me wrong wrong. You don't stuff that it's like it. It took a long time. It's time to heal from some of that stuff. But that's that's the result of this. This work that we that we do for ourselves so a wave against kind of gauge. Check yourself gauge. Check yourself before you wreck yourself is to say okay wait. Do i feel genuinely happy for this person. In if i don't what's going on with me. Ny right absolutely absolutely. I don't think. I have anything to add to that at all going down low. You said go to the next light. You went down. Tim blocks anyway. The next one is hurt. Feeling and i know you and i like i said we talk about this season two episode. They smile on your face. We both had an experience where our feelings were is due to last who together. Last one is exclusion indianapolis. There's hurt feelings. I think we're getting 'cause they go hand in hand. And so so editors and because natty. And i both have experienced being excluded from thing and you know having our feelings hurt as a result of being excluded which ultimately led to friendships ending by no fault of our own. I might add. But that's a story for another day either away day anyway. I have some issues not working on in that situation. You hurt feelings at an exclusion. What are your thoughts on. What where do you think. What do you think like. We know what happens when people don't include viewing things and we know how your feelings get hurt as a result of those things. But how we i guess through the whole being excluded enhance your feelings hurt by someone day. Care for deeply. I'm really glad you this was one of the pieces that you brought up and this is one of the the laundry list of reasons why i like. I just love talking to you. Surely 'cause we like okay so first of all like we're both stages will boasts etched areas right so birthdays within days apart. And so it's like we're not the same. Obviously because i know enough about astrology denounce no that is not just sign. It's like your whole chart. And so everyone is really different. Like truly like a snowflake fingerprint. Okay so i get it but we kind of have had. We've talked about a lot of different situations in life experiences that we've had. We've we've had some similar very similar experiences and like this is one of them and like you said you're currently still working through that. I'm currently still working on healing this this thing around belonging for me. It's bit of thing. I've been working on for a couple of years now and i can't say oh that i have an answer. I can't say that what i can share with. You is what i've been doing to address it. So this is what i've been doing when sometimes especially last year. Because you know lockdown had us all just stuck. We couldn't read the bill very many places or do anything to distract ourselves so lots of things would come up unannounced and uninvited and i would have to unwillingly really look at those things and address them. In one of those things was this whole belonging and feeling like At never really belonged anywhere. And once i decided to stop trying to ignore it because that wasn't working i started to sit down and really right the different things that s feeling. If memory came up i would write it down. If a feeling came up. I would write it down in that simpson embarrassing to you. Know like you don't wanna think about it much less rated down and look at it. Read it. But that's what i did i Wrote a lot of stuff in my journal actually extroverted in my art journal. Because i was going to cover it up with paintings later but it was an important part of of a piece of killing for me was to just re release it. Just get it out. Because that's something. I had never done before and i was faced with a lot of ruby deep dark emotions around feeling alone and feeling very lonely because of feeling excluded a lot and not feeling like i belonged anywhere and then i also routes things about and sets of things. I shift started this part like a few years ago. And i didn't even started that part before i started cooking out the stuff that i was really occurred about but kept doing it. I kept writing about how regardless at always always belong to myself. I've always belonged to love of always belonged to big things like art and music and a history of creativity energy industry of of buildings about like my parents and my grandparents and my ancestors back and like i've always belonged to that. I've always belonged to words and poems and songs and a lineage of always belonged to a lineage because we have libya trite. I've always belonged to dreams and and lofty things. And i started writing that stuff down to and i kept saying that i really belong to because i have love in my heart. I have people in my life to love so anglo. I love my husband. I love my children. I love my relatives. The one fan fortunate to still have in my life. I loved that. And i'm like wait. I st- i have a bunch of love in my heart and i will. I belong to that. I i totally belong to that. I said that. I belong to god. Belong to the holy spirit. I i all kinds of things about what i did launch and it started to help me feel whole like it's okay. If this person that person the other person didn't want to be friends with you it's okay and sometimes it might not even have anything to do with you and you don't even know and that's okay too and even if it goes has something to do it's still okay because no matter what you still belong and i know that that kind of sounds like you know that can sound really cliche to and i don't mean to sound that way and i mean it's an all sincerity but that's important for that was important for me to know because i've also you know i am an only child. I don't have any siblings at do have siblings in law by marriage. But i'm not close to to those people so yes by marriage so i have nieces and nephews but no one's looking at me like i'm their off. That's whole long other thing for another for different time. So i i don't have those you know and i always wanted to be similar plot. I always. I always wanted to be in a sorority. I always wanted to be in a club at all. These different things. And i was in some clubs and i was even the leader of some clubs but it was always wanted to be in a circle of of of relationship Circle of friends. A circle of a chosen family A sisterhood circle all that in so writing. All these different things about what i did belong to you did help heal to a great degree. The parts of myself that felt grief over not belonging to those other things. So that's what i've done. I'm not saying that that's going to be an answer for everyone because it is. It's just been an answer for me. I thing Justice some summit up is amazed about that stuff acceptance. i don. i heard newmarch except that you weren't enough without somebody like him and so yeah. I think you know we bought. We've been saying this entire time is about doing your work in realizing that you are enough that they are part of this and you are part of that and so it's about accepting that you know. What whether or not she likes me. I like me they need to. You don't need approval from anyone else. The only thing you need is for you to approve of who you are bright your core and so just going back to the hurt hurt feelings part is wanted to touch on that a little bit is that i think that a way we can. We can Can remedy that. Is that win. someone hers are feeling. We oftentimes going to the space where we completely shut down the in sl way of trying to protect ourselves but if we will get into the habit of saying hey when you said this it made me feel this way or were you did this. It made me feel this way We're having that open communication because that we don't even know why we not france with these people anymore they just kicked us out in Like when we know by had they come to us and saying hey like if we did a thing. But i know we didn't because you know me nazi party will do something but it. We had a bang feel like the the door of communications. You're always be opening. You feel like someone has done something to to offend you or if someone has dug into fans you then be open enough to say. Hey you did a team and it made me feel this way. And that's where vulnerability is comes in and you know we don't we don't do well with on our ability we're working on it. We're you know we're working to get to get to that space. Where we we're always opening vulnerable and on his people but his work you know it goes back to us doing our work so anyway. Yeah we got to wrap it up because out here while so the five days we talked about with judgement hurt feelings exclusion competition and in all of those things contributed to the downfall or Of a friendship and and broken sister and things like that because the bottom line is when you've been hurt by someone that you love someone that you care about especially somebody that you wants calls cities our sister like it hurts and it hurts like hell like if there's nothing to me. I don't know how. I would recover from that you now because she and i have such a we. We have this bond and we'd never like physically been each other's presence but we have this bond so she did something that that hurt me like truly hurt me. It will probably take me some moments and several moments to bounce back from that. But like i said earlier we have to get to a place where we began to office superwoman outfit and get a space where you've been hurt. The the remedy today is learning to trust in and is not always easy. But here's the deal y'all we all we got. We black women. We are all we got. We black women have such a a unique sisterhood because we connect on so many different levels grind. We are the only one who fully understand the intersection of our women who in our blackness we are the only ones who know what feels like and me and ninety talk about this. A lot would not know what it feels like to be oppressed from. Not just a massage at mystic corner view will also from a white supremacist corner be. We know nobody else knows what feel like. We know what that feels like like women are the only ones who know what it's like live in a society where the media is constantly beating you against each other because of the various shades about melanie. We are the only ones who fall prey to trying to fit into the european standards of beauty. We are the only ones who know what it's like to be. The mother of a black side are white of a black man and the fear and the uncertainty stay. Come with that. We are literally all we got. So if you want in a space where you have been hurt by fran or are you been wounded by sister. Who have. Maybe you were a part of the circle. Somebody in that circle betrayed you and you felt it was better for you to suggest. Lee were all we got. Y'all we need each other for shared experiences. And i know all others sat down. You bet her. You don't know if you trust people in the more i read it if you get it been there done it every day i am still is like we always say we never arrived. We are constantly arriving but the only way to trust again is to move through fear of being hurt because that's where a contract mistrust comes from the fear being heard it comes from the fear of being rejected. It comes from the fear being a. It's all connected to that so we can move through debt. Fear we can rebuild out trust in black women. We can rebuild outside in friendship. And then you'll never be hurt again. Probably not you probably will be but we still have to get to get to a place where we were. We recognized as because one person data thing to wing does not mean that everybody. That looks like that person is going to do that into me. And only way didn't that is to identify like he was saying earlier. Identified those things that trigger you because let's keep him one hundred when you're in your boys in your head. You're saying she did. isn't she. got. I don't know about trust this person because someone so did this. Eagle talking eagle is doing what it's supposed to do because it's been humiliating is been abandoned is portraying is that oh she not gonna make a fool of me in so your ego is trying to protect you from having a goat johnny again but the reality is we cannot be alive number one by ourselves and we are not going to build a life free from pain because you get to that space. Let me just say you human number. It's a line from one of my favorite movies. Life is pain. Anyone who tells you otherwise selling some exactly exactly you will never get to his base where you will never experience her in pain. Life is a part of life is what we do have to. We have to do the work number one and number two. We have two large again. We have to learn to move. Pass the fear of being humiliated in an abandoned every jason and all those things and ooh she not will help me out here looking stupid. The learn how to move those things and it takes. Baby step was a baby step. What's one thing you could do nettie to begin to move through to move through the fear. But butch baby step. You can take like right now. Well one of the baby steps are. I'll use myself as an example. I have made a new trend this year. It's a lovely lovely lady. That approached me in target the day of the insurrection in washington. Dc and We got to talking and target. And i we were both wearing our basques and she was very the presenting. I should say but as we kept talking. I realized she's a black woman and then she said some things that definitely. Oh no this is a black woman from just from new orleans and we talked about all kinds of things and regular regular everyday natty would have had a great conversation and would have said. Oh can you love talking to you. Bye and i would have never seen that woman again but i decided to take my own baby step and say i said i My name is natalie and I would like to give you my number and then weakened text and do text message. And she and i i mean i said it almost like that. It was almost like i was in junior high or something and i was fully kind of expected her to be weird about it or saying no or whatever just because again like you said pain. And i'm i m used to rejection. She bike her excellency. Her face mask. I saw her is in her eyes literature. Like oh it's a. We exchanged numbers. And we've been texting. Ever since i love it. I was very thin. Yeah baby steps in your mind. You don't know whether or not you can trust this person. But the only way you're going to know if you've got to trust the where you're gonna find out is to just try this down. Natty knows probably most of my story of my entire life. And i've been bruised. I've been hurt. And so oftentimes i reside in a space where. I'm not going to trust you until you prove to me that you can be trusted to residing in. That's the you cannot because the only way you can trust the way a person proved that they can be trusted. It is that you open the door of trust. Right that involves on vulnerability ability embossed bummer ability. And so yeah we gotta get back to that space the system. The wound can be unbroken. It can be unbroken. And it's up to us individually to do the work to break it when i watch girlfriends. Nah yeah black. Women are original girlfriend is like we are invented that term girlfriend. We don't leave much anymore. Just like says like a black women are the original girlfriends. We embiid it girlfriends. We invented sisterhood. That's the cane from us. We have been saying this stuff. At least that's my are mama's little. 'cause i grew up you girl sis- sister girlfriend i didn't know not one white woman or any other woman that would say stuff like that. Now it's all over the internet kind of like hip hop culture. So it's like. Oh no everyone says this but no just no no that you know that it was black women. It was black women. We are the original girlfriends. We are the original sisterhood. So although you may have been hurt by. A black woman are few black women. I'm gonna tell you. I can say honestly with every fiber of my scene that nobody has your back by black women. Were still all we got. But we're all got other cannibal. We hold each other accountable with low. We hold each other accountable for the way we see ourselves. The way treat ourselves how we walk into the world and how we allow others to treat us. Black women will hold you up while still holding you saying do you hear me. We got we literally all we got. Nobody does it better. Dan weekday no. Ain't nobody gone. Gassed you up like a black woman. Nobody not a one would be like yes. You are going to now. She sees you. You know what the i literally here so we have to do the work to make sure that our friendships and i- sisterhood. Stay intact and just because you've been hurt by a black woman does not mean that everyone is going to hurt you so less. Commit to doing the work right out is almost. It is almost how it is time for us to get out of here on this. Oh box all day. Long because although comfy one it's a company one this. This is a hill. But i will i die on. Yeah i'll tell you listen week. Yeah we all we got at the so yeah today. What did we talk about in this episode. We talked about the sisterhood. What causes it. We talked about how to start healing from it. And how important this sisterhood. To at friendship ease in our lives. So if any of this resonated with you if you've been hard if you have a story art experience that you want to share hit us up let us know say. Hey y'all was talking to me. When i was talking about that girl. I've been down arrow. Yeah let us know you dislike or not in our dm's on social media always say sliding yagiz you ain't got slide take on near and ibm's on your favorite social media platform you know were shaved everywhere or you can send us an email at high of shape strong dot com and this bless your soul. Tell a friend tell a friend because we all know at least one person who has been hurt needs a good. Were right so yeah. June is episode with somebody you know and we came through the good word. We can't do. What the what we did that. Yeah we live in that. Were not pass on to bake gal. We're validating mets. Keep the conversation going anything you want to end any. Yeah there were a couple of things. I wanted to add but out choose one of them the better that we get a seeing ourselves. Shouli seeing ourselves individually the better will get it seeing each other app and the better we get at seeing each other de quicker and more bombastically we will heal absolutely as a collective bombastically. Y'all here is going to be like. It's like for those who know any animated on out on a whole lot of debate. But that grew like kim blow up or whatever can blow up universal is going to be like to healing going to be like by in that as brachman. That's what we deserve. That's what we did. We begin deserve. We don't it so let's get to really see ourselves right so that we can see each other right together aria with what we don't get out of here. My final question. Natty can handle access to hurt. Stark will be unbroken. Yes it can appear yet. Can it be nurtured. yes it can. It glow in sparkle all the way out into space absolutely against it kane y'all we magical s it canary it. We magical edge on the matter. We yeah we've got to get out here but yeah. Don't forget to check out the superwoman quiz. That going to take any we're gonna come back and share with y'all our result as chasing stone slash. hooper warming. Our guys. go out of here. Thank you so much hanging in here with us and we will see you back here in a couple of.

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It works join me on. Ww today at w. w. dot com clone Look thank you for a non forcing us to do a zoom called because we look like crap you duran. Welcome to the show. We missed the show morning show. We are here wednesday march twenty fourth. I got it right right. Yeah you how the brain fog. I found clarity on day. Anyway we'll welcome to the day There's owners froggy. He's yawning and stretching. I've heard that stretching is probably the best thing you can be doing for your body. I read another out of the and you read the gandhi. I did it gets your blood flowing and help you feel better. Keeps you from cracking popping. In the morning it's great true gandhi Live from somewhere in florida. Your hair looks great today. what's going on. I brush danielle a fun thing later. Today versus brush daniel. How are you good morning. Good thank you good morning. There's producer sam okay and not working and there's Is the one day we're going to come in here and everything's gonna work but that'll be weird day. We don't want that to happen. Hey boring daylight day. Law soul me myself and i please cruise around in my car cruising right now his yes durant party of three where two members of your party all. I'm here me myself. And i thank you today straight. Nate how you straight nate. How he slept in my apartment. Last night i tell you i haven't had that good of a night of sleep in a long time but you're staying on the bed that i bought the supposed to be uncomfortable this. I've been sleeping on a mattress on the floor for the last five months six months so this was the lap of luxury the most in your mind is just the the most comfortable thing i can even imagine. See what i did on purpose. I went out and bought him a bed for my guest bedroom that was uncomfortable. he got low rating. It was like the most want people staying over. I want them to go find a hotel. It didn't work not. I got low standard question for night. You snooping go through drawers and time last night but today plan. We'll get into that later. Well welcome today. Eric online to our first caller of the day. Garrett is actually anxious to get the elvis. Duran morning show scrubs from hackensack. Marin why is that garett. Why do you need. Scrubs having a fifth boy in april april nineteenth child. I'm sorry what was i didn't are you. Are you going to scrub up and and actually be room and help pull that baby out Well not pull the baby out It is the tyrian section. So i'll be on the other side of the curtain. But i do need to be scrubbed up and you know sanitize oh excellent. I love that. We'll be representing their in the in the operating room. That's cool that's awesome definitely definitely up. So how many kids do you have this. This'll be child number. Five number five fifth boy. We tried for a girl but this is our last one all boys. It is all right. That's okay things differently when you're trying for a girl they're like different positions things you have to do now. I guess just normal is karen lies. the problem. put your legs in the aaron life. Shake or something marsh or visit. The nila could twist and turn our questions. Anyway we want. You're getting another boy in okay. You know ten fingers tinto's you will thank you for listening garrett. Congratulations to you and your ever-growing family and scrubs on the way and hope you have a great day today you hey. I love the book by the way. Oh thank you. Thank you so much white boys. You read my mask and talk show as well. Well thank you so much. Thank you very much. Gary hold on one second see people do like my my book people out there that like it. Wow anyway we've said it's crap right pretty sure that not everyone on. The show has read my book and that's okay. Who do you think didn't read it. Scary skull read it cover to cover swear damn scary for pages with his name on it producer. Sandy gerena the book i did. I'm to book. Shame someone pop quiz and see who really read it this. I can't tell you why because someone actually asked me a question about it. You know the remember what they were talking about. No people will quote me from my book on twitter or whatever and they'll they'll tag me and i'm like oh my god. What an nice quote. I'm glad they quoted me over they quoted someone and they tag me in it turns out he was me. They are quoting. I'm like what. Did i say that a stroke of brilliance totally forgot about it anyway. Let's get into the horoscopes with producer. Sam who you doing them. With sam morning sure. It is the undertaker's birthday today peyton manning. Jim parsons than it would have been harry houdini. Capricorn surround yourself with familiar faces to feel a sense of joy. That may have been missing recently. Your day is a ten aquarius. A difference of opinion could lead to a breakthrough with a loved. One your days. And i hate pisces. Do not be patient and take your time when speaking to someone who may be getting on your last nerve. Your day is a seven areas. Take a deep breath and take a step back. Things are slowly but surely returning back to your normal your days nine torres. Some of your plans will need to be rearranged but don't freak out learn to let go. Your day is an eight gemini. You restrained mood will allow you to take charge of the day and accomplish all that you set forward your days. Atten- canton your brain has been working on overdrive given a break by indulging in a book or tv. Show that can come you down. Your day isn't eight leo. Don't allow boredom too. 'cause you of micromanage the people around you take the extra time to seek out a new hobby your days in virgo helpful and attentive friend will guide you through whatever may be troubling you at the moment. Your date is ten libra very routine as much as possible to not become bored and restless. Days nine scorpio through though your details guidebook is there. You're gonna learn to go off on your own and map out your own direction. Your day is an eight. And finally sagittarius a disruptive. Day could make you feel like everything is up in the air but you are more grounded than you think. You're a seven and those ear wednesday morning horoscopes. We're on our way. Let's get into the three things we need to know gandhi. What's going on gandhi. That was my fault. Coffin to the microphone. When your aerosols into our house okay. Let's do it again. Three things you need to know gandhi. You're up all right. The suspect in the colorado grocery store sheeting will answer to ten charges of murder when he's arraigned tomorrow. He is accused of killing ten people monday afternoon including a boulder police officer. Now family members are saying the twenty one year old was bullied in school became antisocial and paranoid and his sister also believes. He's mentally ill at this time. Police are not revealing a motive. Meanwhile president biden is pleading for tougher. Gun laws in the wake of multiple mass shootings in just one week. He's calling on the senate to bring back a ban against assault weapons and high capacity magazines along with closing background check loopholes. He says they're common sense steps. That will save lives in the future. He stressed it's not and should not be a partisan issue. It's an american issue. Adding that the time to act is now. The miami heat will be the first nba team to try something pretty interesting. They're adding a vaccinated only seating section for home games. The team said yesterday that it will be offering special seating at the american airlines arena for fans with proof of corona virus. Vaccinations two sections in the lower level have been allocated for vaccinated fans who will be admitted through a separate gate and required to show a cdc issued covid nineteen vaccine card. It'll have to be dated at least fourteen days prior to the game. The new seating section starts april first and finally today is equal pay day. What is that you ask. Well it symbolizes. How far into the year women must work to earn what men made in the previous year. It all started in one thousand nine hundred ninety six as a public awareness event to show the gender wage gap. President biden will mark the day with members of the us women's soccer team. They actually sued for discrimination. Two years ago alleging that the federation violated the equal pay act. They settled over working conditions. But not the pay dispute so thank lady today because we're still not making as much money and those are your three things thank you well. Anything else won't talk about before we get going anything anyone really. I have a million more questions for nate about what he did in your part to. We'll see what nate did in my apartment chemo. And he's going to be there for a week so he has plenty of time to get nosy in my private. I promise to not go through like the drawers and stuff. But i mean there's this stuff that's out that can check out right now. You know what. I tell you you may go through any jury you want but you have to clean it. You can go to all the kitchen cabinets. Throw out everything that expired i did. I did pour myself a glass of milk last night. yeah. I bought milk since i brought. I was dipping milks date. On the i was tired. It was ten forty nine never. I would never ever open milk. Unless i knew what date was because which sits mel. I'm sure used to odor coming out of. We gotta keep moving. Are you ready for your wednesday. All right let's have a wednesday. I just think this whole thing is crap elvis win in the morning. Show everybody it's nate finally a streaming service with the stuff. We really watch every day discovery. Plus is here. Your favorite shows and personalities from brands like h g tv food network and tlc plus exclusive originals with new content added weekly stream. You love on. Every plus elvis duran and the morning show. So what age. May i start having morning coffee with the other guys. I mean a lot of people. I'm sure your granddad does it or your father does it. My dad did it in. I mean for years and years through friday. Even though years where he was he couldn't see it he can. He couldn't drive. his friends would pick him up. Go have coffee see now in the bronx. They did that. But i always thought that those little storefronts were just that fronts for something of course they weren't you don't mind. My dad could have been a part of the too. I don't know. Yeah but i know that every morning at the studios. There isn't like a point in the morning. we're scotty and scary innate. Gather at the coffee machine in make coffee and start talking there coffee. Klatch warm up for when we're sixty five. I can't wait for that. Look forward to even older than me. I can't even do that yet. It's way ahead. It's really relaxing and lot of times. You don't even have to say anything. You just had the cup of coffee and you know nod to each other and and drink. I can't tell you how many times we're just standing in a circle does not get each other and drinking coffee. Oh that sounds creepy acknowledging. Here's here's a transfer from what they say. Yeah We'll say whistle. Like yeah all they say they walk new. Have it though because a couple of years ago and before that there was so much activity going on here in the morning that we didn't have time to just kind of jell into a small group like that. Now we do we do that. We do it right here in this zoom room when we do the show you guys to slip away just kind of jerk each other around. You often don't know you just made a sound. That reminded me of something. Using you whistle. Dad used to be would come out of the bathroom. Data sound my grandfather would make a huge meal. He will eat a lot then. He'd unbuckle his top button. Go well said what does when he's full whistles and says the word well all right my dad when he drinks a really hot cup of coffee after every sip he'll go boy you can actually let it sit on a second guess. I'm the first one end right. I'm the oldest here. So i'm going to be. I should be doing these coffee tea. Things you guys are doing out here alone. we're gonna go have coffee with the dogs. No other guys out there that you like. Put up a sign or something. I don't know. I don't want to put up a sign. Will you do the crossword puzzle in the newspaper. Because my dad's at that puzzle already hold on hold on the newspaper out at my parents house and he hasn't done it yet all his life said well we i'm digital. I don't have a newspaper. The new york times. I do the crossword puzzle every single day. You do to nitrile. I attempt it. I'm not very good at it. But i try. My mom does that. That's a mom thing for me. My mom has crossword puzzle books and she takes him everywhere and she loves them all so no matter where you are today driving around. You're going to look into diners little restaurants. You're going to see old men in there with each other. have a coffee. And here's what they're saying Yeah missing anything. So i guess i'm approaching that age. I'm going to be there soon anyway. So straight nate talking to. I'm trying to get somebody on the phone. Hey i watched a devil norville on inside edition again last night. I'm so into that that show you. Are you love it. I love it. Because i mean they get just trashy enough you know but it's but it still does the real news as well. I mean i'm gonna get deborah norville on the phone next break. We'll say hi and see what she's up to and then in that. That'll be cool. Danielle your first reported the day. On the way what do you watch. Demi levato dancing with the devil two episodes of that last night too. I really i mean i. It's terrible to say you liked it because what it's about but it was really well done and she's very open and honest and it's it's really crazy what she has been through and you know and also to good. I'm not good. Good i wanna see that and twenty one. Savage has new teeth and they look fantastic. Okay perfect and more on the annual report on the way. Let's get into the field goods producer sandwich. Effort deny anything good. Oh last night was a pizza night. But i went crazy and i ordered vodka sauce on it. It was so good girl. All your pizza. The best yeah starting to rebel against taco tuesdays. It's really causing alleged relationship burger. But i didn't eat it on abundant as eight. Patty burger. that's fine. yeah. I know. I missed the bun. Hey go what have all right so this story is pretty incredible and it was sent to me by nancy desha so eighty years ago. Two best friends betty grabbing chekhov and ameri warren. They parted ways as just little girls because their families were fleeing from the nazis so they ended up in different countries. Anne-marie changed her name. And that's pretty much been it for eighty years until amurri recently spoke about the holocaust at a webinar and she used her original name and it captivated one attendee. eat gordon. She could not stop thinking about this story and decided to do some research and found that anwr is name popped up and someone else's testimony from way earlier and that was betty so apparently betty mentioned. Henry's name every time she would speak about her experience in hopes that someone either knew her or knew of her or could just reach out and let her know what happened and it actually worked. I did the research put in the work and ultimately was able to reunite these ninety one year old friends on a video call. There's a photo it's going up at. Elvis duran dot com few on. Check it out the two were just so happy it got a little emotional and they chatted for hours and i just think this is such an incredible reunion. So thank you so much for the story. Nancy and if you have a story that deserves to be featured email me salmon elvis duran dot com subject line 'field goods. Thank you sam. We'll see in a little bit for the round all right so danielle report on the way. I can't wait to hear what you thought about. Demi levato new documentary and there you have it. Let's take a break. Oh one takes came in. Yeah my dad goes for coffee every morning with his friends. He calls his group the dead pecker society. No taking a break. We'll be back after this elvis. So recent data shows us out of all the female owned businesses. It's estimated one in three is owned by a mom the cool yeah ever wonder how these amazing moms and dads find time to hire for their businesses rather juggling their families. You know or this going ziprecruiter. That's right you can now have kids and hire people. Water ziprecruiter dot com slash elvis. Go go use it for free. Ceo and founder. Talia goldstein is one such mom for noor besides being a mom of two her personalized matchmaking. Company called three day rule is growing. She needs to hire a couple of matchmakers to come in and help out. So she used ziprecruiter ziprecruiter used their powerful powerful technology helped her find the people with the right experience and they actively invited them to play to apply but tally is not the only employer who has ziprecruiter for out of five employers who post get a quality candidate the first day and no wonder over two and two and a half million businesses have come to ziprecruiter for their hiring needs. Use it for free. I set up a website just for you. You don't even have to be apparent. But if you are a bonus. Ziprecruiter dot com slash elvis. It's the smartest way to hire ziprecruiter dot com slash elvis house. Yeah our buddy deborah norville from inside edition she's gonna be Zimmerman in a few minutes. We'll talk to her It's really funny. We were talking to danielle about her upcoming report. Which we're going to do right now. And i did you see the story about to. I have that story coming. And i said well. What about the one. Where i i had that. So you have you. You have all the stories that we need coming up in just a second. This poor guy out in la who found shrimp tales in his box of cinnamon toast. Crunch doesn't believe it. Scotty be thinks the guy just wants attention. Scott to be go coffee. Oh oh we'll talk. We'll table this conversation for his return. Can you imagine opening up a box of cinnamon toast. Crunch sin. shrimp tales fallout. Says it's impossible. He says we're cereal shaming initiative Let's get into the daniel report. Danielle go ahead. Do all those stories. You said you well a phoebe denver if you know who she is. She is the duchess of hastings from bridgeton. She's been spotted with pete davidson from. Snl they've been together new york city. They were together in the uk and it makes people go. What's going on. There loves to date beautiful women who really good for him and he he does good. He's funny though. I think you know he's cute. He's funny so then you know. Twenty-one savage has new teeth have you seen not so one forever had like all the grill on the job than the gold and whatever so now he's got this deal with louis vitton so i think that's probably one of the reasons why he changed it up but everybody loved it so much that he just posted a picture got one point. Five million likes in just over twenty four hours because people are loving the new teeth office fans. Listen up so you guys remember the house. That toby that michael egged in season seven so that houses so recognizable right so on the market for over a million dollars it's not in scranton. Pennsylvania it's actually in sherman oaks The neighborhood in los angeles three beds to bats not a big house but because people know that house is worth a lot more money and the way it got the show is that producer saw. The house just went up to the house knocked on the door and said hey. Can we use use your house for the office and the people that own the sure. And that's how it got on show so last night. I checked out the first two episodes of dancing with the devil demi levato youtube series The next episode comes. Out march thirtieth. I was waiting for the next episode and it didn't start automatically. And i was like what is going on. But they're not releasing it like that so You learn a lot. It is really deep. She is really honest. And it's crazy because it starts out with all of her friends sitting there. And the i guess producers are telling them that you know we want you to tell it all and they're like wait a minute you want to talk about this and this really like. They couldn't believe that they were allowed to talk about certain things. So they really really. Yeah so you know how much. I love her adore her. She's and she comes across as such a nice person on this. Just you know it's just crazy what's going on But she talked about how bad she actually was. I actually don't think people realize how bad actually is. I had three strokes. I had a heart attack. I suffered brain damage from the strokes I can't drive anymore. And i have blind spots and my vision i also had a pneumonia succeeded And multiple failure and if her best friend hadn't found her when she did actually call because they didn't even know should we call. Who should we call. We call an ambulance. We don't want the attention. If her best friend had called she would not be here anymore so she almost a goner anyway. Oh my lord. And then she didn't believe that she overdosed that night. I wasn't injecting it. I was smoking it which is another reason why. I was so shocked when i woke up in the hospital because i was like no. I'm not injecting. i can't overdose on it at the end of the day. If you do too much of anything that's gonna kill you. You know what interesting. I find interesting. She says she's california sober now. Which means she still smokes weed. I think she still drinks a little bit. She says she says she can stay on track doing it that way. I sure hope she does. She didn't talk about that yet. In this those two episodes so that must be. That's probably coming Now we love to binge watch shows. I would have loved to binge watch this one last night but didn't happen But netflix's is actually going to be taking that away from us. The new seasons of the shows the circle and too hot to handle. You're only going to get a couple of episodes at a time. Because they feel like then you can dissect it and you can talk about it with friends. Have a big discussion. And then they'll give you more so. I really hope that this is not going to be the new way to do things. Because that would suck. We're watching. We're watching the show generation which i'm loving the only give you a new episode every thursday. So we're like no you gotta wait till thursday. It's crazy man. I need to ben. I know it's crazy as it did. Got an addictive personality. Feed it and the disney channel disney flat. Actually just announced black widow will come out july ninth crew. Ella will come out. May twenty eighth. You can get them on disney plus and of course in your theaters on your television. Tonight you have like. I said demi levato dancing with the devil on youtube. The goldbergs around. Unfortunately we're saying goodbye. george segal. He passed away he was on the goldbergs. I know a lot of people are going to miss him. the mass singers on also riverdale and for gandhi cease. Spiracy is on talking about what's going on in the oceans and how we are really doing bad things and that's my daniel. Thank you daniel. Hey before you before you enrolled into the zoom with deborah norville talk about the bracelets from little ridge project. Oh yes so they all go. The profits go to project cure. You see after the end of march. You're not going to be able to get them anymore. But these are limited edition so There's three to choose from. There's a bunch of different styles with three words which is hello lady. What are you bananas. And of course hope and today you do there you go. That's so nice operates so jobs yes if you haven't gotten around on them yeah like i said. They're going away at the end of this month. So they are limited edition with our friends from little words project. And if you go to elvis duran dot com is that is that a website ranked pretty simple. We will we will link you. You can get them. And like i said at the end of this month. They're gone so get your hands on them. Now and project cure is going to benefit from that. So thank you thank you. Daniel scotty beeswax. Scotty you think this is a conspiracy. The shrimp tails and the cinnamon toast crunch. I don't buy it. Why are you not buy i just. I just think the guy's looking for attention. He's a comedian. Or something like that and you know he's married to toe panga from boy meets world. It makes the story even more interesting. No but i. I you know when you have a problem with the company i you email them and just try to hash it out. He's he wants everybody to see this. And i'm not quite sure. Why all right. Well i know but he opened up your cinnamon toast crunch which i love by the way i'm a fan. You find shrimp in there now. Has dental floss in there. Also i mean like you not true. What is he doing to the company which is not exactly but maybe it is. He's married to japan go. He gets plenty of attention. Do believe zoom room is a poppin deborah norville from inside edition's her committee deborah novels on interview lounge and we welcome deborah norville from inside edition. Hi debra hi how are you. We're great we're we're having day. Yes telling gandhi and daniel every morning. When i come in. Oh my god inside edition last night. I'm finding myself watching more and more and more. I'll tell you why several weeks ago you guys had a headline ready for this. Has megan markle. Lost her markle sparkle a deal or no briefcase model shares. Her thoughts de man. I got to watch this show tonight. I know and i used to say markle sparkle on television. Go to not starting night. Well was there. Was somebody markle on saturday. Night wasn't one of those characters. Like way. Back in the jane curtin days or something and it was like marco sparkler far or something. I can't go there. Who say even though they had that over my shoulder who is sits around rights like the headlines is there. Some of that's paid specifically to come up with the marco sparkle. the actual. truth is yes. I would love. What's funny you call it a tease. I heard of those threats here. Okay laugh if you will but it made me keep watching the case model. And she came back. And said you know. Marco has lost a little sparkle all right. I know you guys are working on some important stories this week. Of course you'll be covering what's going on in boulder colorado walkouts county daniel earlier about an industry. You guys are doing this week about these. These people who sold their house and they refused to leave. Okay this is author house. But they can't get two people are still there. And here's the thing so you know and we've done a lot of these stories since i know you watch inside additional the time we've done a bunch of stories about people out in the hamptons that had the summer rental that is now gone into month. Fifteen and stuff like that. There was a couple in. Staten island the same thing. They rented their house out for like two weeks. Or whatever and the people refused to leave and because of covid they have rules that you cannot evict people now. It's meant to protect the people who lost their jobs and can't make their payments but nefarious types are taking advantage of that law and just refusing to move and the local. Sheriff says hey. My hands are tied. We've got this ordinances. Says a candidate people. But this one. I actually was talking with the producer. So we'll see tonight if they asked this question. I said you gotta ask the prosecutor. How come you're not charging these people with fraud or theft by taking because the people paid their money. Thank god their money for the house and the people who are having the house have not left so they've got the house and the money i think that's fraud. I got a problem and straight nate. Our senior executive producer. He and his girlfriend are moving into my apartment in the city while they're holding renovated right can't walk there. Yeah yeah if they want to stay or heated to law on his side will be honorable and leave when they're supposed to but you're congratulations to For several reasons. Twenty six seasons of inside edition with you at the desk. And that's unheard of first of all in unreal. Congratulations thank you very much. Well and i have to say. Thank you to everybody who watches this. If you were watching. They wouldn't keep me around. So thank you so inside edition. Make sure you watch. We always love ripping off your stories the next day. so thanks for letting your hair to serve. Thank you so much for being with us today. Thanks guys this is fun every day for you to stay safe okay. One hundred text messages coming through. We were smoking pot. The back of the bus. And i cut my hair on fire. Rates may apply tax chip and joanna. Gaines are back. And they're doing what they love taking outdated worn down houses and turning them into their clients dream homes. Don't miss fixer. Upper welcome home. Part of the magnolia network preview only on discovery plus stream. What you love. How many people here to see. Elvis show is a great article in today's new york post or the According to this new study from e harmony guys in relationships are seeing the pandemic's praises claiming the yearlong lockdown has made this the best sex of their lives. What they're saying the Digital dating sites happiness index love and relationships in america survey two thousand people half of the men gave the pandemic a big thumbs up. They said it was the best they've ever ever had in their lives. Wow did he talk about that. Because you're it's a different dynamic. You're locked down there to do so. There's nothing to do for a lot of people. I i don't know if they're getting it. Confused with The quantity versus quality. You know what i'm saying. I just doing it no matter if it's good or you're doing it so so so daniil gandhi will do. I thought i mean certain days. Maybe but not all the time i mean. It wasn't like. I don't feel like we were doing it more because of the but you gotta remember. I have two kids on in my house. Twenty four seven. That weren't leaving house. So yeah i would agree. I would say the last year was the best year. But i also had different circumstances because i got to live with my boyfriend for the year and we are long distance so we just got to make up for lost time. You know there you go scary. How was your sex life. This past year Talk about it's. It's barely there. Because i corps team with my girlfriend so we we see each other on occasion but it hasn't actually been the least in in every yup. Yeah what about you. Are you to talk with somebody who has up so we go to Straight nate who staying in my apartment with his fiance. I'm hoping this stay in your apartment will lights and fires because know we've been living in a one bet we have a bigger house but we've been living in one bedroom in that house for the last six months together. I mean we eaten at bed. We sleep sleeping that bed. We don't like fires in my apartment. But i mean honestly. Our sex has dropped off. Because it's like we're all next to each other always tell you about staying in my apartment. No sex allowed. I know. I don't know if i can hold to that but i mean i'll i'll do my best. What about the apartment. I've got cameras. I'm watching your every me. I was gonna ask you. There's a gorilla thing sitting on the counter. Is there a camera in that camera guerrillas thing guerrilla statue like harambee. But i feel like it's a camera because it's pointed at strategic place and i'm like all right i'm gonna make sure we're going to tell where the cameras are located. But yes of course is littered with cameron. Did you see what i do wearing last night. What did you wear it. i. I didn't tune in what we did. When we all your i had on underwear though so i showered and i sat on your couch. It's comfy couch. You're sitting on his couch with your stuff that close to three put underwear on. Hey we have abandoned rector alison. We're going to get to alison in just a second. I wanna see something interesting. That's going on in her world But do you have any questions for nate. Asking him like how he has violated my apartment. Yes i do so my first question was going to be. Where did you guys do it last night. 'cause i don't believe him that he's not doing it all over your apartment. We know nate. He does it in the office. He's definitely being in the bosses apartment. It's i think tonight's the night because we do not go into my bedroom. Stay out of my own did you know you meandered in there. What were you doing in my bedroom lesson. I learned to use that. Fancy your totem. I looked in there for a pillow. Because you're right the pillows on that told you my pillow guys haven't been washed in a year. And then i was going to pick one of the the decorative pillows off the couch because there's like forty seven of them. Don't slobber all over my. I didn't wanna slobber on it so i just use the one pillow doubled up and you know i. It worked fine. So i'm gonna go get another pillow today. No i'm telling my pillow steve bed bath and beyond by my own pillow. I would like to know how much you enjoyed your shorter commute this morning. Then he'll three minutes that's awesome wrote. He wants to know if you've found my drug stash. And have you been to the wine. Cellar wine's have not looked for the drug stash. So i'll let you know when i find it. Look at the medicine. You have to go use his toilet that toilet like everything. No i don't want you squirting hot water if your bunghole on my toilet do something bad to a toilet at your house previously. That's when he didn't have the toilet paper and i blew up. I should have my head examined for allow you into my apartment for scary. This is the perfect time for him to have some guests over. Maybe have dinner party there. Oh right for dinner party dinner parties in my no draw them. I guess i'm gonna tell you the front desk only you and heather allowed and no one else. It's too bad that single. You imagine you that you could you back to my apartment. Only elvis duran's apartment the poll my apartment by weekday. Look if you're listening to us right now you think about what it would be like if someone you worked with in. Their fiancee was living in your house. And you weren't there to supervise the insane. Well it can't. I will say it's a very beautiful home. I felt more at home. There than i do in my own home is that we don't get used to it Gordon into separate online. Twenty four is allison allison's a band director lovely. What kind of band do you direct. Alison i six through. Twelve band director. I also teach choir. Oh excellent. i was in band and choir surprise. So what song are you guys. what What song you guys talking about in your class. These days whole nate says asked her what song they're talking about okay to fire by elvis gandhi knowledge gave about gets the song and a couple of guests that musical and says today my student listening to. Tv's song will doing the trolley song inspired by alba's then awesome. Don't rain on my parade and the students are going to discuss if they are boxes. Lock using music terminology and decide on their favorite. It's like march mania bracket. We're doing how do you choose. Between clank clank clank trolley. Don't tell me how to leave array. God i couldn't be geico winter. The rocket charlie ding ding when my heart All right glad that you're sharing these classics with your with your students. I appreciate you doing that. Allison they have to decide between our men in black and barbie girl today. Oh y'all would go with barbie one hundred percent talking i would. Yeah all right. Well listen thank you for listening. Thanks for being a teacher. You know we love our teachers. Alison thank you so much. Hello ladies have a great day. Okay thank you you too. Bye guys influencing education. We're amazing scary. Somebody texted in and they said that nothing thrills you more than having guests in your home you may not know it. Because leo's have a big heart and they don't care about sharing material things. But i don't know i don't mind sharing my apartment. I just don't i. I wonder what evil doings are going on in my apartment. Like what are you doing in my apartment. it's all pg rated. I don't think is going to be any more than that the clean. He doesn't think he's not doesn't put it this way. I'm not doing to the curtains with scary things. They do to curtains and hotel. You do not do anything hotel. Ever those are not napkins cleaning. Those are curtains. Great pot stash there. If you need a guy you're good Let's get into the three things we need to know from gandhi and then we have a one thousand dollar free money phone taps. Thanks to our friends at omagh woah building. Right now. yes thanks to macworld and you're about to win one thousand dollars with the free money phoned up all right gone to europe. What's going on right now. President biden is pleading for tougher. Gun laws in the wake of multiple mass shootings in just one week. He is calling on the senate to bring back a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines along with closing background. Check loopholes saying that they are commonsense steps that will save lives in the future. he stressed. it's not and should not be a partisan issue. It's an american issue. Adding that the time to act is now. Meanwhile the suspect in in the colorado grocery store shooting will answer to ten charges of murder when he's arraigned tomorrow. He's accused of killing those ten people monday afternoon including a boulder police officer family members are now saying that the twenty one year old was bullied in school became antisocial and paranoid in his sister also believes that he is mentally ill at this time. Police are still not revealing a motive. A candlelight vigil is planned tonight in colorado. Those waiting on their third stimulus payment will want to check their bank accounts today. The second wave of deposits is arriving now. If it hasn't already people who don't get their fourteen hundred dollars should keep an eye out for either a paper check or prepaid debit card. The irs says both will arrive in a white envelope. So be sure you're looking for that but this is not the final batch of payments more are expected on a weekly basis and finally. I don't know if you guys saw this story. But there were dolphins in new york. It's not often. That new yorkers get to steve dolphins in the east river but yesterday afternoon three were spotted swimming in the river near brooklyn. I know scientists at the new york aquarium say that they appear to be common dolphins. And it's very very rare to see them swimming around new york city so everybody was thrilled. And those are your three things. Thank you gandhi. All right your phone tap for you coming up after this. This is paula morning. Show elvis duran and the morning show live. Pardon me folding laundry wait a minute you don't have that. Does that for you. Know only kidding. That's the best part of being home. I have to say is like being able to in between commercial breaks throwing a load and then if it's done. Put it in the dryer until the dishwasher needs yobe clean. Take care of that like that's awesome. Nice then you'll get to make breakfast. Oh that's great. I go upstairs. I check on the kids. I give them hugs the dogs out them. Run around the yard really. Don't have time to do the show. I gotta get this. I really have a lot of work to do in my way. Speaking of you know. We're about to do the mac weldon one thousand dollar free money tap and look at this unfolding. My mac weld and sweat shirt. My mac walden got. How many pairs sweats do i have. Your wow all of them. Joggers i will. I wanted to come out with a women's line. I don't under- like i know. You could wear the men's line which is fine but i like it when fitted for me. Do you have enough. Women get four floors guys a corner of one. That is true by the way we love the match. An air knit underwear. Oh it's great. It doesn't have that whole. I hold on the air. Because we don't like the weiner mole. I've never used the weiner whoever in underwear froggy you had those shorts on yesterday just like you see them if not can we get back to the so. You know women don't understand you know in guys underwear. We had a lot of underwear that you know the opening the whole where you can pull everything out right or do we do like nate. Says you just let it jump over the fence. It's so much easier. Just pull it down and cells. We are speaking for ourselves under the fence. I got a question hold on you. Go under the fence no Through the late. Whole wow. I would never frog would never plummet down through the leg whole. I have a question though about that. Whole like if you use it and you don't shake right. don't you get like little spills. I guess sometimes scares carries all for. He's not allowed to talk the other boys about their winner. At the urinal the know whole is the best solution. It's like boom. It's right there. But i down the side of the leg like fraud yet i to pull from the side of the leg. I've never heard never in my life. I'm not saying it for me on your leg. No you're going through the leg whole because if you just want to pull your zipper down. You don't wanna unbutton pants then. It sucks to go over the top over the top you over the top now. That didn't answer my question. How you don't pee on your leg no you because you can get a piper. Police say one thing. This is a very important conversation. We need to teach gandhi and danielle. How men use their underwear when the urinate k. You pull it way up. And so it's it's your clear you're fine. Do the bigger boys go through the leg whole or over the top just curious chance my husband not one guy in here his answer don't know let me go well. That was hilarious. What's scary no this. Texture said that they don't like the weiner because it plays peek a boo with you. When you're walking. I'm sorry but i've never had that problem. We don't have any these problems. Gandhi why the air net Underwear from walden. Because he doesn't have the weiner it's way it's it's a wasted weiner on us excited now gandhi to teach us something about your government's go very boron comfortable. Sometimes the phone cannot be as comfortable depends on which kind you get. You know. i'd rather wear no underwear at all than a thong. I asked those things they're terrible. It doesn't work chafing. Yeah i feel like if you have any kind of butted all a thong is just going to ruin your life and your day. You're going to bleed to death. It's no good so have you ever worn men's underwear. I've tried them on like a boxer choice. In what situation was that just to relax in a pair boxer shorts. Did anyone know your had them on other than you know. I don't think so. I just tried my boyfriend's boxer briefs on because i wanted to see but sizes. If i could get mine into his believe it or not i cannot really tight terrible. Yeah we have. Elvis duran boxers. If you remember back in the day and we all got them i would wear and it had the whole the. I never liked boxers. They're always they weren't they didn't give me control in their support is what i'm looking for it so i guess what i'm getting at is if you've worn your guys underwear. It was usually when they weren't around and it was in the privacy of your own moment. Yeah yes yeah so. I didn't tell them then. The reverse froggy everywhere leases under underwear. Just because you're curious just curious it. I'm a much larger than cheese. What about you scary everywhere. Your girlfriend's underwear no. I've never tried on women's underwear. I try on the pantyhose here at the radio station when all the the work that day. Yeah yeah what fraud. I bet i know who has tried a women's underwear scotty limit for sure. Yes pervy makeover picture of me in an old girlfriends underwear. I talked and i put them on. And i took a picture that was she there. She was there. Yeah we were. In the bahamas. Okay so no. I think it's interesting interesting when you try on your partners underwear when they're not they're a whole different. It's a whole different thing. I don't even take him out of the laundry and fold them now. I mean. I just think it's weird touching underwear. Yeah let your wife my daughters. I don't wanna touch that. Oh about talking touching a little kid underwear. That would be weird. I throw worse with my gosh. What happened with you. In boxer shorts straighten out boxer shorts. So they're very loose right and i wore them to sleep one night and the seem that goes between your legs went in between boys and i almost got to stickler torsion is what no google it hits. He's doing in bed too. 'cause i was like i dunno i rolling around whatever but i kind of gave myself a wedgie and it went in between the boys and then it twisted one of the testicles. Oh my god. Yeah and i had to go to the hospital. Did you really realize yeah. It can actually ueno elvis question. Yes how do you separate yours alex's underwear if you guys buy the same brand whose well but his larger than mine first of all okay and he wears his until they give up here. Today i was looking through the the laundry. There's an old towel i'm a. What is this tallies it. That's my underwear. i said this one time was underway ahead. No connection it was the flat sheet like the whole put your legs the goes around your waist. The elastic where is that. Oh no okay shroud. He's a for new underwear man. I bought him samak walden's and he he did it. He does wear those. But that's i think a lot of guys are like that they use it until it's just unrecognizable. Great what's that gandhi. I read recently that you are supposed to throw your underwear out and get new underwear every six to nine months. Let me tell you what i have not done. You know what i'm doing. I'm on the every year plan. Every year i i go online and just go check check. Check check parole in the car. 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His dad who owns a potato chip distribution route so in other words. His dad delivers cases of chips to stores around the neighborhood. At sunday's tips. Timothy does the job four his dad. So timothy's going to start to call his father about an issue. He's having on the raft. Did i do this same phone tap before we we tried. What's before with a cookie row with average on cooking. I'll bet yours is much better than mine i well. Let's see how scary does area talking about. There is a problem here. What's the problem Well risk factors delivering. You know living in shipment. Yeah yeah yeah. I didn't Flock the The box trump. The back of it and it was just swipe flight open ten A bunch of what happened. I went back there. And it's it's just a mess back. You know the like half the sour cream or down in the truck. Yeah clearly. I don't know i mean of christ take cheese. They really tore it up back here. I don't know why or what a pencil everywhere could they. How do they do that. How did they get out of the. How long were you part there. I mean not long. You know. I know rudy in the store and they're just talking a bit about whatever but you went in there and you're yakking away and what back of the truck is open. I mean cheese not talk anybody all day. We wake up get secure the vehicle then you go in and they make get them back out there. And maybe i'm might until you see this homeless. He's like fish. Shopping carts like full chips all just going to talk to you get away so let him get away. Doug did you hear my trucks. These aren't these are pretty. You need to pay for these. These are mind. Take the jets that eating chips. While you blocked in my leg seventy-five chips that your new right now. You're using in no way these. The readers are good. This is mike. Clark is my chip. What are you doing for. You're not you're their mind to just take. What if i opened up every bag in here and start eating every single one of the not your chips any more freedom. Great i can't disguise. Let's get back. The trough didn't get away from the chips. These a my son. Hello get. I didn't still not done my son shift my doritos. He's doing a very good tania. Reggie approaches have these rolled gold with butter. I'm gonna open up some of those. How do i know that you didn't steal these chips. I ducks think. I'm sitting here in the studio with chips that i bought from the vending machine. Because you've been phone tapped. My name is jerry. Jones smell vista ran in the morning. Shell what are you doing to me. I listen to you. Chewing those chips was nasty. Digestion begins in the mouth. If you have a phony fonje you probably hated that town or even if you don't Horrendous that's what people are takes again. that's awful anyway. Thank you though scary. that was your one thousand dollar mac and free money phones teff pam online. Fifteen change her. Hey pam today changer. you just want two thousand dollars. Nineteen thing very very. 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What's she doing down there ordering the underwear. But i wanna try. And i know condie ordered some for brandon. I did i whole. I got the ones without because nate was raving about it so i just thought i'd roll the dice. I did a little of both won. A couple of weiner holes couple november get an accidental door opening doors. My dad just say you left the door open. He mean by that Daniel what are you doing in dari my stupid thing okay. Listen to what happens when daniel touches her and listen. That's my hand. You know what that sound is when you may not realize this. That's the sound of an electrician. Going to your body is that that's not a good thing is it. I don't know why not whole rumors going around. That drake wants to date kim kardashian. Oh that and more coming up after this somebody that i'm hearing myself that i pay jones state farm if the real deal when it comes to car and home insurance bill personalized service and an award winning easy to use mobile app just part of what makes their rates so surprisingly great so when you want the real deal like a good neighbor state farm is there. Thank you for not forcing us to do. A zoom call today because we look like crap serandon. Welcome to the show. We missed you the show. Well there you go. We are here. We've got The pyramid game coming up in a few moments When you want to do that straight contested right now. If you have any go into that falsetto thing. I just don't i don't i don't know if we should be buying into anything you say whilst impulse seto i. I don't know why i do that. I mean i usually do. When i don't have the answer to something right. You are if you're about to lie to us. Yeah over in nate innate. When he's about to say something really insulting has that. Allow your shirt and he'll go. He'll say something insulting waiting for him to say something about my apartment today. I was waiting for him to come in and go. Hey thanks for letting me stay in your apartment last night. But i gotta tell you. I'll do that on the last day. i'm there. I don't wanna lose my warm welcome. You are not a good friend you know. I used to to loan my truck to nate and he bring about dirty with no gas. That wasn't a whole thing. That's an whole thing. I i remember. I remember that day like because it was such a fancy car. I couldn't even find the gas gauge. And then the alarm goes in some like And the gas in new york city. It's not easy to get gas. So i didn't realize i would have to leave and go to new jersey and then come back because i think that was the easiest way to get. Gasoline seems like basically screw him car. You can go to that trouble. Go to new york new jersey knowing. It's so difficult to get it in new york city. Decide okay. Well one thing to return friend's car with no gas dirty. How's it going to return my apartment. I'm kind of curious. Dirty claes everywhere on cleaning. I plan on high pitch. Start lying you how to run the dishwasher. I need you know how to order food of last night because we brought one of those table. Eighty seven pizzas and I couldn't even turn on the oven. Now wait did you eat the table. Any having pizza out of my freezer broader own. I have some there in those are mine. I expect the stay scotty b.'s. Wife amy watson off. She can have a sleepover because they don't have a kitchen right now either so then they really would like to come to your apartment with nate. We're running a shantytown apartment. No no no. No and while we're at elvis has the best food delivery places in his neighborhood kids to go there as my home base. Like order seamless inviting everyone over to my apartment here wadden. what's lunch. Come on over place. We have to get into the pyramid. If you want to play we need to. We need to contestants. I think how that works. Yeah yes and we gotta figure out who's playing for who i know daniel hated to play. We'll figure it out. One eight hundred two four two zero one hundred. Call the squatter straight. Nate straight nate the squatter one eight hundred two four two zero one hundred. Let's go around the room. I to see what's on your mind today. We'll start with you producer. Sam what's going on with you. So i went home yesterday to my parents house and my mom asked me to clean out my old room so she could turn it into a guest room. I went through my closet. You guys. I used to be so much cooler as a kid as a high schooler. I found this duct tape bag. I made myself. It's a messenger bag. And i like actually made a bunch of little pockets on the inside and it still holds up. I filled it up. I tried it out like man. I made good quality stuff as a kid. I have gone downhill creatively. I need to get back on this. Yeah i think we've all lost touch with our creators except for gandhi gandhi. Still she's thriving. Forget it you're the exception. So that feeling you get when you forget that you had leftovers but then you open the fridge and you go. So i would anthony's coal fire pizza the other day and i brought home just two slices and a little bit of the leftover salad and open the fridge and it was there. Nobody had touched it. I was like oh angels. Were talking to me and was so. There's sometimes it's just better with leftovers so excited on the other hand. There's nothing more infuriating going to get your leftovers. And they're gone. Someone took him pisses me off terrible. Hey what's up with you scary. So i try and order. Food from the food found five thirty pm for dinner. And i don't ever wind up making a decision until i close to eight o'clock because i'm so indecisive exit there and then i start a new car and i'm like emptied the old carton mcquaid is saying i don't want this place i don't understand why but i i need people to dictate to me. Here's your choice visit order from here and be done with it. I just i can't. I can't use these ads because it's way too much too much out there. I focus on what i'm saying. Well same thing you just sit there and just going circles and then you look up. It's too late to eat. never mind. so what's up. I've decided that there's a special place in hell for people who leave just a couple little pieces of toilet paper left on the role so you think that there's toilet paper but there's not so i'm declaring war on my sister because that is what she did to me in this morning at four thirty a m. I was stranded. Not happy about it. I'm going to carry that with me all day terrible america. It is soul-crushing when you go to read the paper and it's only one of our shard on their god. Help you if you try to use that it's terrible. I don't have my pushy here. It's just it's been quite a morning so she's going to go get it in a minute. Hey froggy did you do yours okay. I didn't think so what's on your mind tonight from. I realized that not everybody gets sense of humor. So yesterday i got a phone call from somebody recalling to check on me. I get insurance call every now and then they asked me how i'm doing from the procedure from five months ago and i'm fine and so they're like are you feeling okay. Everything's going well. I think my family's trying to killing her whole tone she goes. Are you feeling unsafe environment. Like she was going to send some no. I'm kidding i'm trying to come oaks. Not everybody gets humor knows how we are and so i had to convince this woman but everything is. There's no problem. I'm not unsafe. Everything's great here. I'm waiting for social workers up at my house. Check on yes and it makes me say. I think my family's trying to kill you next time you say. Hey my family's trying to kill me. They will take you literally yesterday. But i convinced i think that everything's opaque hey straight what's on your mind today. Okay so you know. I realized this. When i stayed in your beautiful apartment last night. it it's i'm. I'm a person that i don't like to have a lot of stuff but i feel like having stuff makes it more of a home. You have so much stuff and it feels so home in there. I'm more at home in your place than i am at my own home. So you're calling it cluttered now. It's it's it's so comfy in there. And i realize i i like stuff now because it makes you feel like you're at home i have too much stuff. Take some of that stuff. All right so stuff makes a home. The thoughts from nate to have made it stuff naked. Take something you would never even know you have to. I pretty much know everything. I opened a closet to look for a pillow and stuff. Just tumbled out like in a cartoon. Yeah he's insulting you. That's insulting and he insulted you're milk. Don't forget get out of my apartment. I'm done with you. You are no longer a guesstimate apartment eviction. Hey do you have a second contestant radio yet. i'm trying to find some. This is not bode. Well what should we start with. Contestant number one steve ahead full steam ahead wait for another contestant. Listen to the one we have it. Maybe for the time they're done we'll have another one. Hails go talk to shannon online sixteen. She's a pre kindergarten teacher from long island. Please welcome shannon's we're excited to have you here. Thank you for listening to us. Thank you better go. So i have all the categories. I have all the answers here. So here's how the pyramid works Who was playing for shannon. Is that you daniel schorr. Yeah sorry data will. She'll know what your answer should be right. She cannot give you a clue in the form of any of the words in your answer. All right if i can't make sense perfect. If she said sandwiches it would be bad because the answer would have been a peanut butter jelly sandwich and she would have ruined forever. All right so how. Much time on the clock here. Scary sixty sixty seconds. Let's see how you do hear you holding them up or nato holding them up to car maintenance eight oh. I can't believe that i'm blind over here really. Oh this is this is the worst. Context derided dark sharpie. 'cause last time they did it gandhi and i couldn't see what he was holding see. That is a print out. All the clues are there. Yeah that i say okay. Okay you ready to write them. I'm reading here. You're writing is printed about this time. I could hear you when you start answering okay. Sixty cycle clock shows up. We'll see how you and let's go nails hair. Women get done toenails slam. Color plants flowers his past unisys. Oh detergent bathroom. Spray Oh my gosh business over. That was not fair. Oh your pinky your thumb your your hand oh Golden grams Puffs cheerios apple. Jacks just Oh gosh tuxedo. A tie accumbens bone and believe it or not. You got four points which unheard of. Yeah native holds up words or names that end in the letter. I didn't write these clues. Okay i want to get extra time on the clock because that was what no wait. Wait hold on the. The answer was words that end in the letter. N i think that's totally fine right now. All you have to do so everyone calm down. Pull yourself together okay. Listen to what we're gonna do. Everyone's in a calm down here. It's just a frigging game. More one word that comes to mind right now. You did very well clues left to finish this. Okay all right. Let's go talk to her. You got you're taking all the fun out of games josh. Dumb brody's giving us all these words in pan spoon. Moon can but when that that long okay and then come up with it. Isn't that easy slowing gasket is online. Fourteen works at a hotel in altoona iowa. What do you do at the hotel tyler. I am night for the hotel. So i work all night and listen to your show from about five. Am on c. Look at that. Some people are getting up. We're putting him to bed right. Tyler as you know it get it can get very vicious here on the game. Gandhi is going to keep it together and Here we go play. Yeah okay here. We go start the clock whenever he starts answering his question in here. We go Hearts candy hearts teddy bears chocolate code words in on by my pie. Pi all those things have something in common. What are they in on and my pie by pass it the moon stars diamonds anything. That glows the side. It's always system pass a mouse itty-bitty Still don't scary penis. Yes broke brain when he wrote these things. I'm yes yes Wolf are bark. Feed me me for. Which animal would do that bar. Oh my god these are like wait. Hold on hold on. Gandhi got the. These are hard get stuff. You're a jerk. Told him at all of these. Were absolutely go okay. So they were two letter words like in and on my by then it was things that are shining the stars the moon a diamond. That's dumb. that's dumb. I smell was things that are small mouth scares peanuts. Brody's brain when he wrote this tell you why and finally it was things dog would say. Okay we've got into. We're gonna send you something. You're not walking away empty-handed title because we love you. We love everyone who does. The overnight auditing at hotels. You're on hold on one second. Let's talk to shannon believer danielle as often as you play the game. She was this politico guys so much for listening for so long. You guys made my day. We're sending you but we're sitting you something so hold on one. Say yes straight. I have a hundred dollar gift card to. Mac weld in go underwear without the leader. You would think more but steep price. Thanks for listening one hundred dollars at suspend any way you want it mac. Walden dot com. Hold on one second. Thanks for listening to a shannon. Thank you thank you so much. We have a group meeting here. Real quick sure games are supposed to be fun. Whatever they brody on here. Pave brody lou brody. I think i think you did a great job on the pyramid. No one else does. But i do know some of these are actual questions from the pyramid game actually. Tv show what we can rip up. Take all of them. Were i said some of the more the concepts from the original show. I thought it end in the letter is from from show like words. It start with a letter and with a letter. Those are all classic term. It game question. I think only a stupid is challenging than others is a good word i think. Oh my god words that end in d. stupid. I gotta say one of these was fair the opposite end in t and p just write it off like that and then they were fair. They were hard but they were fair. You know what i'm saying. Is that what i'm saying. i'm not. They weren't unfair but they were harder than maybe they needed to be. But then you'll you see yourself all the time. You're not good at games but listen when you give a clue that has like five sentences before you can get your first clue out of your mouth and you have to process it like that. That's a lot to think about wonders. Yes froggy make your point sir to do when it's like that is is find small words that rhyme and then go can plan. That's that's good. Okay contestants weren't fine. Do not make fun of our contestants. Scary jal not making fun of all right all right. All right guys guys. You know fine. This is no fun. I'd have unless i'm elvis late in the game to play jeopardy. Kill me in view to be dick clark and say what if i told you this carries pinas things that are small. I thought you did. You did okay. you're okay. it's just a fun game. It really solid never. Can't handle it brody. Thank you for what i thought. Were fair fair terms to guests. I think you did a great job. Thank you and the fact. That scary and froggy both supported. Me is a wonderful thing to three of supporting. Well no what. I already know you supportive. I'm saying in addition to you to get all three of you guys. Thank you sir. Two minutes you got his back normally you throw him under. The bus skipped the fall term. Lease on this is so uncomfortable. Do the uncomfortable dinner party. The uncomfortable fun game time. I had a great time here while you guys were found close to folks we gotta move on. There's lots going on this world of ours. I think we should get to know. Ghandi's keeping an eye on the three things we need to know right. yeah gandhi. What's going on lot of stuff's happening the twenty one year. Old man accused of killing ten people in a colorado. Grocery store will be arraigned tomorrow. He was arrested monday and charged yesterday. He also we're now finding out allegedly shot two people in the parking lot before walking in and opening fire. He also killed a boulder police officer while police have yet to reveal a motive family members. Say he was antisocial paranoid and possibly mentally ill. a candlelight vigil is planned for tonight and now president biden is calling for tougher gun laws in the wake of multiple mass shootings. And just one week. He's asking the senate to bring back a ban on assault weapons and high capacity magazines along with closing background. Check loopholes the miami heat will be the first eighteen to try out a vaccinated only seating section for home games. The team announced yesterday. That it'll be offering special seating at american airlines arena for fans with proof of corona virus. Vaccinations two sections in the lower level have been allocated for vaccinated fans who will be admitted through a separate gate and required to show a cd issued covid nineteen vaccination card that stated at least fourteen days prior to that game. The new seating section starts april first and finally the red cross never fails to show up for people in crisis and now the tables are turned. People are being asked to open their hearts in their wallets today on. What's known as giving day one way to do that. Is by rolling up those sleeves and giving the lifesaving gift of blood to other ways include making a donation or signing up to volunteer the organization says this year is particularly critical after what families have been through during the pandemic. So if you can help help out the red cross today and those are your three things thank you gotta take a break. We're coming back after. This is something about his tongue. Hey danielle you have to download luck. Tastic the app where you can win real cash prizes or enter contests right from your phone. Plato in cash and fun prizes instantly. Or when tokens redeem gift cards from amazon walmart and so many more download luck tastic the morning show. You guys are on edge today. Usually it's me usually on the grumpy mandate to keep it together. Keep you people for fighting. There's all these little fights going on in the room. It's what are you doing away. I'm sorry what's that. Gandhi satellite to light the fire and walkaway. Start the fight and then let everyone else. Just have at it going. Everyone's going at it frog bathroom. What did i miss flights. they're all like each other's asses. I mean everyone's just like it was danielle involved in one of them of course since she pulls her earrings out and takes off her shoes and she's ready to fight the hoops come out. They hoops governor daniels. Since you seem to be in a mood today and that's allowed. I'm going to let you choose where we go in the Old school time machine. Okay sure you wanna do. You're you're going to have a great song for us. I heard my fifteen year. Old son played it last night and said mom. This is a great song. Mambo number five part. That's where we're going on with huge. Just make you smile and a lot of fuel in the old hit it. Let me hear. It sounds like you're sitting there during a glass of red wine wind down wednesday out. God help we play just like every hour. And i wanted crash the times. We are not officially in the old school. Thomas y'all gary am. I being bumped for lou bega. No no we're gonna do. Beta is not going to bump you danielle. It's your it's your thing it's your call we're gonna play it for you. Thank you listen to it. But we'll play plate with a volume all the way down. They know it's punishment. Yes yes yeah. Frog frog your. You're getting your way you're going to get to play any song. You wanna play in the whole world. This is what you choose listening to it yesterday. So i think maybe other people will like to hear it as well. We'll people are already in. They love them. They love mumbling five zero danielle. Love it okay okay. You're going to hear it. You're gonna hear no problems getting into sound with garrett live from the kitchen hey garrett all right let's start let's go to sacramento so a mom got pissed off because her kids were getting in trouble with the police because they were skateboarding in the neighborhood. All the neighbors were calling the cops show. Mom took matters into our own hands and put up a sign in front long. I don't know what to do. So i put up the sign. A sign that sends a loud and clear message from raquel davis to her west sacramento neighbors. This neighborhood is full of carrots. That's why i came to this. Because i keep my kids in past dr. I don't know what to do. She's not going to invite to the block party all matter what she's mad at all the neighbors were calling the cops on her kids for skateboarding around the neighborhood. So this is how she got paid thinking of awful awful people. I don't find her off. Did you see what froggy tweeted out. Today there's a woman in new york city that is hell. She is hell with feet. She drags her kids around town and does everything. She came when she goes into our local businesses to Make stink. she calls people awful racist names awful and she's everywhere the reporting her everywhere. I don't know why they can't just find her. And the really sad part about it. She's dragging these kids around with her and their mixed race children while she's insulting all kinds of people of different races. It's terrible and she's like this is how her kids are gonna wind up growing up because their mom acts and think it's okay. We're gonna move. But i want you to go to frog what what is it. What's your twitter frogging. Radio on twitter froggy radio in look and once. You've see her video. She has videos all over the place. I mean she's every it's like her sole reason to exist is to go out and just reek havoc into people. Feel like crap. It's send me. I own my god. I don't know if you're in the mood to watch a video from the worst human being that's ever walked face to the worst part is it's right there for you. Yeah there's kids in watching this stuff. That's so awful it's awful. It's just powerful so it's like it's like why do we want to watch it but you do because it's so bad garrett changing gears so last week being saint patrick's day there was a video that was posted of a four year. Old girl singing. Danny boy you hear it a lot at funerals irish funerals and she is getting millions upon millions of views based off of this performance It's because she's four and she's cute or she sings a song that not a lot of people can sing three million views. Three million people watched it so. I can't sing mainly like it all right. L. let's talk about creative kindergarten teacher now. He decided to take his class on a virtual class trip and he went to the zoo. And this is what it sounded like. Why not still go to the zoo and you can come with you got it. What do we have now. Classes delayed coming. It's coming up five now coming. Another virtual field trip with me. Oh what a cool teacher very creative very creative now. We could either play both play one. I'll let the room choose. I have some isolated vocals from two artists that we all know and love one being ed sheeran and the other being harry styles so Both at the same time sure. Let's let's start with ed sheeran. This is shape of you. I got this lyric. Because there's a line in the song that might bedsheets smell like you. And i did it based off of nate staying at your apartment But but here's ed sheeran's isolated vocals of shape of you about sweden's sour. And how your family's doing no kate leaving getting in a taxi kissing the backseat till the driver. Mc the radio play in you know One show though you'll love with hand made for somebody like me who come now follow mildly. A may be crazy. Don't mind me say boy. That's not so too much moe's and with that buddy on me we'll come now the come coming now. Sounds so good. okay now. let's have these isolated vocals. Thank you very much. let's move over to harry styles. This is a falling again and again but it's fun job. What if you again again. Yeah sounds so good and it comes out the harry which is even better. Great american gary. Thank you so much. Thank you all right. Danielle you only one person Sent a negative text about your selection for the old school time machine. That's all right but everyone else's into it so let's hop on time here. We go mambo number five. Got your dream come true tomorrow. Barbie girl no burn down well. My birthday's on monday. Barbie girl on monday reno were tub. Something oh no. I do not like you remember that song. I brought back from italy by las ketchup. Yeah we actually flew them to america and they performed a show of ours was was the biggest mistake. That sounds awesome to me. A total crap chopin all over italy for the summer. In every other song they played on italian radio. Was i'd say i hit. I have brought him back. And i played it with the biggest mistake ever. I don't think we have it in the system doing search took it away and we don't wanna play tub thumping because tumble wamba where a bunch of jackasses report is on the way. Have you heard of from danielle coming up. Oh katy perry and taylor swift. Maybe a collaboration is on the way. That would be pretty cool. And of course more from demi levato is dancing with the devil. All right that and more coming up after this. What is jay z. What's up john says. Machine gone with elvis durant in the morning show. 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Yeah i will catch up song back from italy from europe actually. It just didn't really take off right ice. Nelson's there's an italian artist brought over after an italian Summer allesandra omarosa stupendous of one of my favorite songs of all time didn't become a hit here in italy. What about crazy frog domino Become somewhat there's another song brought over. I brought over manama. The version was his by. Mr mr mo. We used to play at every day in the program. That stupid based on the mother taught happened to the elvis. And what did the fox say. What the video that now. Camel toe camel towed never became a huge listen to the words. They're very remember campbell toe. Everyone i love this song see. Something caught my slowly epidemic. A lady i got up deep blind panic creeping up to par. I put a break at the. These are the plastic. Would have been huge hits. They just never made it. I was so worried they were going to say a bad word at one point in your rhymes with okay all right. Let's get into the daniel report the make a new segment our show songs. That didn't make all right. Danielle where do you wanna start. All right well insiders are saying that drake on a mission to date. Kim kardashian a source says he's ready to see her whenever she says the word and he's confident that this will happen interesting. See if it does. Hey it's drake. You might get what he wants to gold so katy. Perry taylor swift. They have buried the hatchet. You guys know that but could there be a collaboration on the way so on american idol they were doing like collaboration nights duets nights and so katie said to the judges. Could you imagine if taylor swift. And i got together and did something. I mean what we could do. So maybe taylor harder and maybe it will happen we will say watching demi levato dancing with the devil with the devil on youtube last night. There's two episodes that have been released. The thirties coming out march thirtieth and it really is something to watch you learn so much about her and they're so open and honest about everything that we went through with the overdose like win her friend. Jordan jackson found her listen to this. Hold on a second. He's too busy listening to camel. Toe could you tell me which one you want told you which one do and jackson when she found demi ruin the moments gipson. They opened the door really slowly Knows really dark and cold in her room. And i kinda got chills honestly. I thought that she was just drunk or hungover. So i kind of started to like nudge her a little bit. Like hey like let's get a now like it's time to go. She wasn't really moving. She was like drooling. And then Demi was talking about how her first relapse should have killed her. I had a photo hugh. And i remember being at the photo. Shoot and just thinking to myself like. I don't even know why i'm sober anymore. Like i am so miserable I'm not happy. I have all this stuff that i'm dealing with. I picked up a bottle of red wine at night and it wasn't even thirty minutes before i called someone that i knew had drugs on them. I'm surprise aiden that night. I ended up at a party. I just so happen to run into my old truck dealer from six years before and that the drugs. That i've never done before i'd never done before. I tried math. I mix it. With malia with coq we'd alcohol oxycontin and like that alone should have killed me. it's really. We almost lost her. We definitely almost. It's it's it's something so you definitely should check it out if you get a chance so yesterday we were talking about liz. Oh being away with her friends and posting pictures but not posting pictures of the guy that she's been hanging with well. She heard us and eu single. She took to instagram yesterday. Posted a little video slapping her booty and it says single on the bottom so is not with anybody Did you see the tiktok video. Where frankie jonas was talking about how. He almost killed himself two years ago. Nick joe and kevin jonas his brother of course he says yeah he almost took his own life from a very young age. He struggled with drinking and drugs. He hated life. He didn't want to be here. And then something intervened and changed his mind. He got the help he needed. And he's so happy and he's so grateful right now The dogs are back in the white house. President biden's dogs. They went and took a little class so that they don't bite anybody and they're back in the white house. Hopefully they will behaving themselves. alex trebek's name will be on a brand new homeless shelter in los angeles his Family gave five hundred thousand dollars to it will be called the travek center and they are going to do the groundbreaking very soon and taylor swift and her mom did something really good. They made a joint donation of fifty thousand dollars in support of a woman who lost her husband to. Kobe did a one week before christmas. And he left behind Actually yeah Women who left her husband on. Yeah i can't read my handwriting. I'm right now anyway. They leave behind five daughters. And it's just such a crazy situation. And of course. Taylor swift tiller always come to the rescue with money and calls and stuff. She's just nice like that tonight on television the goldbergs. The massing riverdale and Tell me your secrets on amazon. Prime scotty b is love this one so you may want to check it out. And that's my daniel report. Thanks to end. Joe danielle in the morning. Show wake me up every morning radio. I think i'm crazy out. Engraving plane just saving. Analytic can give you coffee energy. Can you say this humming. Thirty four thirty four l. a. Can you give could talk healthy. Can you say alcohol thirty four. Can you got thirty. I'm only been like of outside the night. Birds are the best at the given those another famous persuasive. Such a thing control phone. This means a thirty four the morning show. What's everyone freaking out. Camera was not live. You know my My ipad which i use for the zoom room is not charging for some reason so now grandpa my dad. Call me like this. Thing's not charging. What do i do. I it's plugged in so there's obviously a problem with its charging mechanism. I will say yesterday. My mother asked me the difference between text and email and i just stared at her for a while because she does both so. I'm so confused as to why she didn't know what the difference did you stare at her. And kind of blanked. A little bit like i said. Are you serious detects people from out to email people from your text messages. i'm confused. She said shut up. Just explain it around him. I'll use my phone ago. My damn phone won't do that. I'm like no it. Will you show me how to do. It then goes you screaming. it's frustrating. Hey so tomorrow. Is our album release party with justin bieber. His new album justice which in my opinion is just fantastic. We're gonna talk about that. And i will tell you that there will be probably a little visit from hailey baldwin during the interview. I'll be at very short and you know not a lot going on there but I wish he would've stayed. She was on our show a long time ago. Did you guys know that you remember. All she was posting. I believe i believe she was hosting the iheartradio music awards. If i'm not mistaken. Oh yes was she was and we had her on. She's great she's awesome. They're both awesome way to you. See if you can watch or just here Justin he isn't just a great place. His album is super fantastic. Phenomenal collaborations on the album. I mean it's definitely a heavy hitter. scary you look at you. Have something on your mind. You'll hear about to erupt with some sort of pearl of wisdom. I'm just going to really good mood today. I'm gonna very good space. I could care some business yesterday. And i'm glad let me let me take your temperature. Then you're you're in a great place for froggatt. How're you scale of one to ten ten being the best. You are a about a all right. Kenny l. eight earlier daniel. You were lower the mood now that i heard mambo number five zero. What's your number i would say. I'm like six or seven. Because i told you others family stuff going on my dad's having a triple bypass on friday and i'm nervous so once i get through all of this and we're on the other side feel a lot better okay. Good six and seven. Yeah we're here for you wherever you need. Yeah you guys are great. What about you there. Straightening which was an eight. And then we played mambo number five now around to serve fragile. Awful what's your number elvis. Eight and a half eight and a half nine. I'm i'm pretty good pretty good. There's a lot going on a busy busy day. You know every once in a while this look. It's one thing to have friends that actually ask you okay. What's your number today. Sometimes you have to ask yourself like okay. What's my number right now. And if it's below a five or six or seven maybe you need to stop and go. Oh wait a minute. Why is it there. And no. don't forget about what you're going through and don't you. It's good to lean into whatever it is even if it's it's tragedy you know i gotta tell you yesterday. I really really stuck with that story coming out of colorado boulder from the grocery store and they had a press conference yesterday with all the The officials i mean sheriff's department. Fbi right in the the local police and they were all just handled it really well. With such hyper focus on the victims and their families in the grocery store and the people who live in their community and yeah you know what they really told the story well about how you know you get up and you go to the store get some milk you know and it turns into a day of terror you know and i think it was. I think it was a congressman from colorado. He said you know what two days ago we had this beautiful day that god gave us here in boulder colorado with surrounded by the natural beauty that we see sometimes take for every day but it was a special sparkling day and he said that i know i know i feel great knowing that the people that we lost had that day a few days ago before they just decided to get up and go to the store like we all do you know and anyway i i felt like i needed to watch the coverage yesterday because it wasn't about the guy who did it was about the families it was about the community and it was important to see that because it reminds me of how important you guys are to me in how important this community is that we're in so sometimes the news as awful as it can be reminds us reminds us of how great we do have it. You know not to bring y'all down. I mean i mean it's just you know this is something to think about today Jungle drum remember. That song brody brought that song remember. We used to do that bit where we counted down. We gave you the number one songs in countries around the world. What was it called arts. Top of the chart. Stop at a church. He brody where brody. Hey dave brody remember jungle drum. Yeah that was number one in italy years ago. I'm hearing you on two different microphones. Now he's mike. Okay yeah it was number one in italy. Yeah about eighty seven eight years ago. Do we still have on top of the charts scary. Do we still have that. Play a little bit gun. You've ever heard you don't go. Reminds me of these boots are made for walking clicking banning and kind of the background me classrooms. Do we have that scary song. These boots for walking by nancy sinatra. You know uncle. Johnny slept in her bed. One time did he did he. We're in palm springs. We rented the old frank sinatra house and he slept in nancy sinatra's bedroom. Oh my god that's awesome. We slipped in france last set on the same toilet freight used to on. It was crazy scary looking for it here to look for. We don't have it these boots. We don't have these boots were made for walking now. What respectable radio company doesn't have simpson version that she did a non. Wow we have knockin boots by the candyman. Okay we'll play. that prescribed. his time had enough. You like that. Put mambo number five back on all right. Go to the. I can go to the refrigerator and can't remember what the hell i was going for but yet i remember every word from the thong. And that's awesome. The early nineties sums wrong with me. I didn't age well that song. Listen to those lyrics no not at all. Let's take a break. We have your phone tap. I swear to god it'll be better than that song. It's coming up after this. Let's go take a break before things get back after. This is instantly recognizable. Hey it's gary. 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Deeply human a bbc world service american public media co-production with iheartmedia on the iheartradio app apple podcasts. Or wherever you get your podcasts. Hey this is alba all basketball all the time stories on time. You're gonna love this. When when i was at. Espn pretty early on. I said something about brian. Butch to the idea of with a he was overrated as a mcdonald's all american or whether the expectations of him were overrating and because mayor for example he red shirted his first year in college. But the story behind is way more interesting than my my take time. Am i taking. The time was kinda convoluted it was. It was more about expectations based upon a selection then. It was any sort of personal shot at brian but again in the during the times in television you not really as thorough as thorough as i could have been in. Why said what. I said and it caused ruffled some people's feathers. I'm sure the time probably pissed off at the time anyway. We're now sort of colleagues right like he's he works for bt and the big ten network is a really good job he's also very much involved in the youth basketball industry so to speak. And i like him i respect. He became a hell of a college player and had a long long career professionally. So we've been trying to down and do this thing for a long time. Here's my catch up with former all big. Ten selection state of wisconsin legend and now radio host and big ten college basketball analyst. Brian butch your first memory of basketball is wearing wet. I probably have to go with the local. Ymca here in wisconsin appleton does look a little little tight roll around. Just it so appleton for people who don't wanna google search it right you don't it's Just south and west of green bay right about twenty minutes from green bay. That's a little south of green bay about twenty minutes. That's it so. It's cold a lot of the tom all that fun. Stuff goes wisconsin. You can say that now is is green bay. A suburb of apple tinners appleton a suburb of green bay. They're separate so you gotta appleton is kind of like the fox valley. You got a bunch of small communities together. Then you've got by about fifteen twenty minutes drudge where there's nothing really in between and then you got greenback so i want to say they're suburbs. It's small city living pretty much green bay small city after they're kind of separate by a little bit. Yeah you up in the country. He grew up in the town. I grew into town a city So i'm not a country boy. Got a little now. It's not city milwaukee living. It's not madison living. it's it's kinda. Look as there's three big eric's it's madison milwaukee. We call the fox valley. It's kind of all put together. That's kind of where it's at rebates as a little bit outside of the fox valley and then it's kind of all separated by young smaller cities all through. Okay show You start playing at the the appleton appleton. ymca and and you're out. You're always big right. You're we always saw was. I was six feet at sixth grade. Six eight eighth grade. Six eleven as a freshman. So and you all every coach puts you down there like this. And let's throw the ball. Butch a throw it a right and everybody's telling you you. Never you get called for ballots. Even though you don't bow and little guys were able to punch you in the nuts and never get called for a foul right. We'll be bulk leave Completely unfair as now. So you're growing up in appleton or you a wisconsin could because the first. There's like two two thousand when i graduated. You had that great team that went to the final four by and you have mike kelly father of our country right with Popped up right and it was a really really good team. But it wasn't nationally wasn't beloved because they played so slow right roy williams said and then you have good but it wasn't even not like that they were playing slowly before that they weren't good like growing up. It wasn't like i was a scottish. 'cause they were they had. They had the one stretch. Where was the big cat. They had started yup avatar griffin. And here in howard right. Yeah yeah yup. They put him on the map. But it wasn't falling. When they got dick bennett there he started to get going a little bit. But by that point house already. Freshmen in highschool wasn't like i was like i. Gotta watch wisconsin basketball. But did you watch green bay. When when tony was there dick was there. of course. okay. So were you were. Did you like the bucks were yet. 'cause minnesota had dudes back. Then they were cheating their balls off right and and and now's yourself when you grew up like what would what was the hoop that you watch. Tv it was on it was carolina. That's what i watched up carolina fan. I would watch everything that they did. So i love. That and i was a big box. I love vin baker. Like it's crazy because the last two years or two years. Gobs of decicco Wisconsin heard invented would come down and coach with the heard. He's now assistant with the box. Areas it's crazy. How kind of you know this world is exactly what it is. So that was my god. Vin baker was my god. I love watching them So here's my here's my my my loan abba couple of different was Sama damp okey. So sam okay. Now this is the story that i was telling you note. Wisconsin was that herb kohl promised. Sam cain wisconsin. They build a coal center. I think that's bullshit. Whatever there's not much truth to that. That tolson was getting built one way or the other matter. San was there last long enough for even matter. I don't sam so i fly. I go. I finished high school. I played in two all star games. I got. I was like a fill in for chauncey. Billups got hurt for the magic around ballgame. And i go to the coca cola. Mayor game in. Indy was run by bob. Knight's son i fly fly in and To other dudes antoni y she's assistant at. Cnn was on annette bening. Gary bell was like our big recruit from gilady illinois who has a new program in north carolina was there and my two my two members who played markets where my to memories of that game are one. I showed up at the first practice. And i was like the loan gift. California and gary bell was listed six eight and it comes up walking up to me and he's like six four and a half and i go. I thought you were six. Eighty s like man. Your dog if i was six eight. I'll be out long and then we go out. Maybe after the game. And i gotta j. george oak like he was a big personality. He had a fake. Id or all he had a nut. I had to drag him alibaba. He was gonna fight in a bar. Two blocks from our hotel room were. I'm nineteen he's eighteen but he's a big cat he's not to fight these dudes but buddies hammered and i had to drag him like two blocks to the hotel and then up to his hotel room and tuck him in the first time. I've ever done that in my life. That i was like. That is a wild dude. That is a crazy crazy dude. That's my. That's until. I got to know mike kelly. That was all. I knew about wisconsin basketball like same. Okay goes there. he's As well in it lies like that was the thing about it right. Like sam could've been this great guy. You can get lost in madison like italy. Yup like if you if you're there for the wrong reason you can have a fun time down there So that that's unique thing about it. It's funny tell these stories because get i. I ended up going to mcdonald's game. I'm ruined within the and it's stories of the same way. I'm what i'm capable scouts. I just wanna hoop like. That's all that's all i did. I didn't drink on a party. I was about as let's just get to work and let's do this. Let's just Wire over here there. Another off sudden our end. Two girls next to me next to him in the bed This is all happening at mcdonalds game. I'm like what the okay Welcome to live outside of wisconsin. As far as what. It is 'cause you you remember. I did the nba athlete draft. You remember what. Would dave search duty. Ev book and i was like man like the greatest moment of this dude just got ruined. Because he couldn't read the guard. What i was just behind. I was shocked with the pick. Because i was just like that. He was good but i. And then you're right you're right. They were wrong You're a incredible high school player. In in appleton. What was what's that experience like being good. It's it to the rest of the world. it's a small town as you point out to wisconsin. It's like one of the three big areas whatever but like your as decorated a high school player as there has ever been the state of wisconsin. What was your high school experience. It was great. I mean every june Head to sell gyms that sound tickets I mean cotton of what you'd think in a small town like we everywhere we went. We had to get there early. Tickets being sold ginger for sell that they were bringing bleachers in from everywhere. They're trying to cram many people in to the gyms The experience was fantastic. I mean it was. We were show everywhere and i know that's according to say it but in a small town like that's that's what it wants We would love love your swat. It doesn't matter if they're they're not big names now. Who else is on your stuff. Nobody will know any of them because there was only giving them love him. Love on the nick hands matt feet. Dusty watershed ski guys by name hanky shawn golden. These guys were all guys and i'm sure miss a whole bunch of them right but this guys that we're just grew up bunch guys that just who like and we just put together was now our high school coach prior to me getting high school. You wanna tell three games. Three games total got there no total in his coaching career He was there for three coats for three years. A total total he would offer you want to feel total so this is our to high school in a powerhouse. It no this was just. The appleton was high school and had a seven footer covered through and the nice thing about with all my guys. We could be real with each other but i we get into fights consulate because the expectations are. We have to be good. Like i'm not gonna lose. We have to be good. This is what we're about and so it was fun because we have guys by. And i mean that was the fun part about it. Everywhere we went people wanted to see what we're about how we were bad. I mean big time. We did a holiday determined down in madison with a plan grits teams and that you should see it was greg gumbel -sconsin. I went to scouts and that was like everybody was there to see. It was a great high school game. Most points you had nice school. How many forty five state tournament game against to play against milwaukee customer It was you'll like this Basically edges last dance. But here's the thing like their coach did not wanna double team though. Didn't wanna double team. And i set the that was the tournament record for points in a state term again. It got broken by edina. Her double overtime game out should does dagel. Deaners rich demon. Yeah so i. I don't even know what it was. Because i was overseas playing about fold loook. Because you're right there's a bunch of all but it was a kid from cedar bird data that went to seabrook. That's new as they hit. Said he beat your regular beamers. Goddamn the deaners. I'm so tired like thirty years old too. So i mean. They're playing high school in the third whether they held off a back back a little guy has gotta be held back to have to do but a damn diener we don't need another dina ok- as you get it going where you decide. Are you talking to the coach here. I'm talking a little bit but not much just because it's worth game. Is jim or at your jim. This is at the kohl center. This is a state term again so this is big time right like the jet like an and he refused to double team more or less telling me. You're not good enough. You're we don't think that good so was on an after the game. I remember getting to the media and remember this the acid well and it was a situation where i missed the free throw. My coach took me out. Didn't realize that. I could break the record. Put me back in. And i got file and the coach for customer was upset that my coach will be back yet again. You're right and i. I'm a high school. Whatever the coach tells you go back and you go back in like. That's not my call. But i remember the the media asked me. Do you think should be gone back. Andy and i said to if he was still upset about me scoring forty five. You may be to let me score. Forty four seventeen so at that at that point then the then they they lost the media. Lost all wild. But that wasn't that wasn't who i am. But i was tech because it's like you should point fox. Sports radio has the best sports talk lineup. 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Must be twenty one and be present in colorado illinois indiana and pennsylvania to play gambling problem call. One eight hundred gambler has win the state change. We did not. We lost his State championship game. We lost you talked about early. On how a couple of go one or the other. I got my third file in the first quarter on a tic tac file and i walked back to the efficient. I said a guarantee. That's the worst call. I've ever seen notably in this game came to see you. I said i dare you to give me a technical for four years i was. I was heated again like we talked about our guys. We have one guy college basketball. He was a walk amazon. Like we it. Just you'll be at a couple of other guys get some stuff later on. But it wasn't like we had d. One guys that come to play like we. We put together a squad. The technical belt he he knew at that point he he knew better at that point with an act over the Live you lose so we sit. 'cause i i was in the game so we went out from about ten. We got downtown right away. It was just click on the bench. What was the oh so l. We did with elliot zone so in at the time i get it at the moment. Okay we can't let them get to file got pulled out a remember to this day. That's i'll be. i'll be relax one. That bothers me. Still when i bill back high school we don't have state championship hanging at still bothers me. There's no question about a week. We lost in the cis Semifinals to dominguez my junior and in the finals and by then we qualify but the state tournament. But we were just we lost team in san diego and just everybody. Everybody else was done and i was not done. It's it's a little like the term aware like sixty seven teams. Go go home unhappy. Just different types of unhappiness. I was like that where you know. Like i'm sure everybody's pissed lose their last game except the teams that that when you when you state ch- budgets amylase stocks. There's five five divisions and when we would visual so we were replaced walkie schools olive at madison schools. All that stuff so yeah with anybody good on the team that lost him goblin david drilling burns. He was there. He was on their team and plan to paul but they were just better our first year. My junior year roommates state. We lost to massillon Had both lowers microsoft. Would be my team. It was there. But dan known flat when they just heated up our guards. It was tough to get of times as to get the ball. Pass half court. I remember me had to bring it up sometime time. Get just Ball jake you sell okay show at during this time that you play you as well or you just you. What was the squad. So we played was called with scott It'd be announced wisconsin playground warriors. Just call wisconsin skills like. That's all it is. Fox valley now Fox valley skills so the bus kitchen. The fox valley guy by the name. Richard davis who passed away. He ran playground now or used to run. Play passed away a couple of months ago november. The driver there was So he's got a bunch of us together. Low kids get. I'm gonna yell names that you don't even know who they were as we had taro. Deacon josh snyder gabon. Name steve wholesale Watney was from rhinelander. So we just put together this group of local kids from the area. And we go down the milwaukee. We beat these teams that go down to madison. We we beat. These seems we went out to bob. Givens carolina that's got a lot of offers. His they put us in a pool with a bunch of of bids were supposed to be highly. Ranked amounts dropped forty on every day. Like in remember the picks for me. It was just as you. how did you get. How did you get good when you're not playing against that level of athletics on a daily basis that what was the what was it. What was what. What was your workouts like. What was your how did you. How did you develop your game. So i've played all the time but for me one of the biggest things not do it. All the time at our camps teller campers. Now that i'm running those everything. I was big on skill development. Like this is the officer will get into like i was six. Eleven one eighty My freshman year school in the big ten earned in college in the big ten. I was six eleven one sixty mice like junior like it wasn't like i was bully ball but i was going to be smarter. I studied the game. So i knew how to get angles uninvited. Create space. what steady. Who did you stay so again. I'll watch lot of in baker. But i would watch a whole bunch of love Larry bird and i would. Just i would just be watching this crazy film in general and then any game on goto like so again names. All i'd be a freshman eighth grader ago. Go watch high school basketball games. And i learned from guys like dr charleston. A football player but he was really good. Boxy was a football player. Played at wisconsin. And it'd be really good. He could use his angle so all the seven. You just try to steal as much of it is that you can and try to add aspects your game but here's a great example. There's ten guys in the gym. They wanna play. Pick up game on the tenth guy. Now man you guys gotta wait gotta get my work. You're that guy ga. I was that got which you know. what yes what. The reason that we were good high school year my time. 'cause those guys. They got their twenty minutes a workout so they knew that before. We hooped like we were going to do our skill sta. You started doing started mike play. I got atkins out like no question like that to me. That's what like that's why it was good. It wasn't i'm not. I'm not gonna listen. Listen we and as you running your elegant your camps and all the most after doing but as it's it's always it's interesting to me. It's like so. I have a do three days a week. Doing it's like a practice workout. You know you have limited time and jim space and so you're like what percentage of time i do. I do you breakdown. Drills was time. I do skill development when the time i do team stop because because then you get into tournament and if you can't bring press nothing else max but that's the thing like i. I was ahead of that because in college wisconsin. We did individual stop analogue. During the season we would find win but not nearly they are. I do think that's mistake though. I do think and that you know. I have a philosophy in one of the things that set me back was. My shooting was a mess. But i was to work in the office at phnom numbers. Exactly no no for work and then and then you get in the season and it was her first of all. You're so tired because you're going usually twice a day you'll get in and get up early and shoot and then like you know you get i practice. There have hourly stay half are later but then you get the season. You're just you're cook you add. I think that coaches really smart coaches should have a day every week. Where it's like a uday. What college pro day. Where seem stuff where you're just doing skill development for those players because all those doesn't matter if you can't score the basketball if you can't get where you need to get to and i think that's what's changed like i'm not -sconsin greg does a lot more of that stuff than bowed did when i was there. They voted more with like frank and salmon. Those guys as well. So i think that's where it changed a little bit. I think you've got to be able to adapt. And i think that's what happens in. So that's why i was ahead of it. The other thing is i was a big. That could shoot before. That could shoot. Wanted like that's just what it was but it's also because again i wasn't that i was gonna jump over anybody and i wasn't going to bully anybody. The biggest got was to thirty. Like i mean Chevy i've got up to two fifty and i can't move. I went to our strength coach to bow guys. I know you want me at this way. But i can't be the player i need to be at at. It is way to fifty. Is that offseason yet. In that. In that richard year they put on that much weight. Yep eating or leading everything everything. He's kurds oh you name. It teams everything. I'd go on the road trips. And were just like butch eat like. That's all we want you to do like put on this way and that wasn't the answer for me like the answer was just like let me get back to doing what i do a little bit more like. You might want me here. Because it's the big ten but that's not who it is. And i'm glad boeing. Everyone's like you know you're right like we see what it is. We wanted to get weighed on. We did we put you know seventy we need to get you back down to fifty pounds and then you can play the be the player. We want you to be okay. So why did you choose. U. dub lot why it gives you good of carolina fan. Yeah mcdonalds american and you. You could have gone anywhere yet. Wanted to stay home. Watch took five. Visits i went to arizona to kansas arizona. Who is your house chanting. Try and then who is was was loose deliveries loot still. Yeah oh yes yup. And so that was the thing that's why go 'cause i didn't know how much longer it was going to be. A good do comes from his. It was great. I want my junior year. I love it was like they were worried about disney. I was worried about distance. But i've always thought as like a seventy eight year old kid. I kind of new to read through the bs. I didn't i was a kid. Hey can we. Who are visit like we play. Don't wanna see everyone's about let's play that's counts. I always was trying to get through all the the. Hey this is what this is a great university. Come here. we've got few. I'm good man so it's funny. Because that's why i wisconsin. Because it wasn't that okay. Let's show again so so getting next visit was where i went to carolina. Grazier host sean. They're good. they're really really good. But who is the coach rollers coach. No melador royals. Against and i knew i know know that wasn't gonna last because the players on my visit were just thrown boss and when that happens on a visit you know it's done i mean i i have one voice show When i actually it happened to us. Notre dame when i visited notre dame Is my first visit and i went to a party and was getting brooks boyer. There in brooklyn set was diggers. Like last winger and dig wasn't the coach. She wasn't recruiting. It was frame mccaffrey's now. I was the recruited me and john mccain was coached and books boyer crushed crushed. Jump cloud like fucking rushton men me that on kid at the time i told random and like i don't think i was ever welcome back in the program. Is there like he just crushed him but a lot of what he said was actually right. It was you know I didn't go to uconn. Because we called. Kevin ollie us out here in la and he was like it's awesome. They play fast. They'll always have dudes but gonna bring in a point guard competing and i was like you know. No thanks go. Because they had taken a commitment from behind me. I so i totally get. That might my best. Like coach is going to get fired store. Resist so Aleve notre dame. And i was thinking about maybe transfer right away. A visited places unlike now mississippi junior college career so i played in a couple of junior college events and alabama saw me and they recruited me and Bob marlin who's a head coach. I think he's still lafayette was assistant. He was great. And steve promos like he actually hosted me. He was a manager. john it was. It was super weird. Dave holmes new coach ray guy who's longtime assistant kentucky but i go and visit there and it's weird like there was another point guard aired named brian williams who i was arrival with in high school. And they're going to move him to the two but they like kind of kept me away from home and they're smart they know. Yeah so then. I get home. From the visit is great visit alabama. This is alcohol. Wasn't good that you're on. The bathroom was pretty good but missing. Something and i get home and markazi costume. He's like asthma school. And i was like. Oh it's great. I knew market retreated me at ucla. You'll and he was at murray. And he's like i think that's a great place for you and i go wives while you don't school there. It's just amazing place to school. When he goes and kosher next year and i think he was. He ended up being a coach. And i think he thought he was like bill. Their report cards amazing. And i'm gonna play two years of college basketball for three coaches like now now. Not okay so you don't so you don't go to carolina with the other. The other visits i go to go to kansas. Yeah no it wasn't like i had hoped to have a hosted cans they had. Everybody wasn't just one guy. The roy's there who's on who's on the spot at that time so they've got Goodness gracious. I believe if i'm right we didn't play and i didn't get like we were with the guys a little bit but we weren't a whole lot because the timing of when i took the trip was it was a little crazy so i didn't get a lot of the players interacts. I was with the coaches a lot of his trip. But it was there it would have been. I took the trip own to who is on that restaurant to the higher calcium. We're still thank you okay. So that's why we were around him that a lot because they were still doing their thing and they were older and they. That's exactly what it was yup. Yup so how that played out so it was great. It was a great trip. Everything about it. And i knew those guys weren't going to be a row so it wasn't like they brought him around me on a lot because they knew they weren't going to be around. So is one of those where it's not like you had this great relationship. Because they knew they were gone so i ended up getting a whole bunch of canton with coaching. And that was the thing for me. Like i knew that was going to be at notre dame era north carolina and i asked him. I said like one school. you can lead for. What is it like. I said i've been out with like sixteen seventeen. Yes yes it was at his house. It was at his house because he always had waffles that sunday morning so as as house his wife has made it. And i said if there's one school as all asked this whole time for you to be honest i've been honest with you about every and he goes one school have deforest carolina. And i'm like you're going. You're gone like this is a done deal in my head. This was a done deal And so now this roy like it's a shame he's game changing push roy out with all the transfers with everything else versus him kind of going out on his terms the game changing and all the darn transfers broken. I cut the thing to say too. I think i think mike my own perception of it is that was at the university with him university. Kind of new right. It's like one of those man when easy a take african-american stennis space specimen right. And when he got there like he quietly wanted to shut down to like well. Why why did he. Why because it went back dean. Smith's it like nobody wants staining bad abutting smith like it just happened like just not so i actually think he in many ways did the right thing for the family. Yes but i think warm out. I think his health. But then i think straw that broke. The camel's back is like north. Carolina has always been about worse going to go and he was amazing recruiter. I was always jealous. Because he recruited paul pierce meyer needed for me to grind robertson instead and but he would sit at midcourt. I'm sure he did your game right. Come your high school game. He said court right there and he was there to watch one guy and women one got was was like he felt great about himself. Everybody else were so jealous of that gap. Were when you said that city. -sego he goes to one school. I league force carolina and he was honest would be it was it was awesome so before type about the to recruit like. I was still a kid that didn't know where i wanted to go. I didn't know. And i remember picking up the phone having phone. Roy saying i'm gonna take my kansas head off. I'm going to talk with you. And by the time we talked about three hundred one time we got done with he goes on other the best place for us to go to wisconsin. And i was like what it this was him. Just being real good dude like like it was him just a good do It was crazy it was crazy. I saw into marquette. When tom green was there. Scott mayor was my host But they had. They had billboards everywhere. They had my jersey in the raft with the bradley center. And i was like you guys don't know me. I don't need them. That's that's not me at all like you are so far off on what i'm about. This just isn't gonna work in the last trip. I took was to wisconsin. And it just was what i was about like. There was none of the hoopla others. None of us. There was nothing. Like i mean. Every school offered like the private jets like carolina offered a private jet to go there Even wisconsin they. They use airplanes flying down and that was cool but like they didn't do everything else. They're like hey. This is great. We'll do this because carolina did this. We beat up carolina and all. It's not like they were just like this is what we're about and we're gonna work and we're going to end. That's when i'm about like. I don't need all the other stuff in and so i know it sounds very vanilla. Lead list is work. You know. I got marquette so i transfer and i sit out and my coach now. I love my team. I know subjects like. He's a crazy person who's crazier and his favorite word to yell at his own team starts with a c. And ends with the sucker. Jost cursing the pod. I won't say that word. That's a little. But it was. So i show up in in wisconsin milwaukee rouse born maderas head coach. Uw Like five years in the sense and early and anthony piper and chris crawford woody were my house and they live in the dorms which right on campus whenever and i walk in and this is what i love about wisconsin beaver like is a walk in and dating to get up. And there's like a a rectangle of beers on the tape a rectangle perfect right team months like Against dylan and they introduce themselves as like. What's the beer like you on. Like a walkie have a beer like birthright and like good. We got a long weekend. That's going to be a pyramid by the end of the weekend. Whatever as i okay glued. We drink then that night. There's a bar on campus. Drank out that dino tapes you out to gouge you and then he leaves the next day we go to. A brewers game is inside took a spring. Visit your liberal game. We play a quarters at the brewers game. I mean like it was an and we hoped we got a morning and we just hooked and then we lifted together and then you know we went over to the bradley center and then we went to the baseball game and then sunday morning for that. We hoped again. And then here's wording was the greatest like i he. I went to oklahoma state. He's like you don't wanna work right. You stole my work him. Yeah our camp for the summer. After i signed with oklahoma state. Our can't the. I think the next twosomes award camp for him and his camp. He had a cage in the locker room and had to be floated by thursday can't rule can be floated by thursday. It was it was. It was the best of the best. Yup right wisconsin. You're the most decorated a one hundred pounds and is the big ten. What was the decision. Liked to register. Whose whose decision was it had come to be. I'll be on. It was together with with me and bowl a little bit. You know. I could see how was going. And here's the thing like all my catches went free. Everything i was doing and in high school. I played tooth results right in defending gore. You're not gonna play so remember having a conversation with the gary close assistant. It was like he's like butch you gonna be better your freshman year here or your senior you like is that development year for you going to be crucial and we sat down. I was like absolutely it is. Let's do it. I know. I wanna catch heat Now what people don't know I did catch heat from some from couple of people we'll get. I'll explain the second but go ahead. Perfect but what people didn't understand at that time is mom had cancer among capacity yet who pathway am oncle passed away on his spending yup so we had all going on. And i'm trying to figure out how that like because again. how have success in high school. I wasn't more athletic. I wasn't. I wasn't jumping over people in. I wasn't bullet people right like it just wasn't the way i did it so i was. Iq it was skills. It was getting all that stuff in it. My catches were so often. My strength was sauce. I just said let's do this like and for me. And my first that summer down there i was a kid. That was while while out more than i ever gonna like so. I was like your experience that i was like. I'm not wearing need to be at. If i want to be the player that i wanna be like. We talked about samo. You like are specifically said. I don't wanna be saying. I wanna leave here leaving a mark and i think we would have done that like my junior year. Final dislocate my mile. We're number one in the country. We play greg oden. Mike conley. Like i think that team we had was good enough to get to a final four possibly national championship so i thought we had it where we need to. I just heard a lot college in. It was just so much of what we try to do with it. But that's that's how the richard happiness said. I'm gonna be better by giving my body right to you. Can't play at one. Eighty the big ten. You just don't care who you geico knows. 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Because at the time i had no idea i was was one of my first years working at. Espn if you go back to your hand and It was interesting. There were two different things was one with you and then there was There was an officiating call. Think against indiana where you guys are playing indiana and the the wrath was also the athletic director at northern iowa and it was a really. It was a bad call at the beginning. And my end. An indiana was on the bubble and northern iowa was young and my point was at time was like it doesn't matter i'm not accusing the official cheating. A what i'm saying is just looks bad for the league that you have you know like if northern iowa gets the tournament he gets elevated and if indiana dozen right there's just a limited number of spots and i thought i worded pretty well and i think the thing with you was they were. I don't remember how we're how we got into discuss you. And my point was like good why. He registered his his freshman year. And and i think that sometimes the mcdonald's all american label works against guys because and and my wouldn't say bitterness but my my logic and reasoning i i. I don't know if you're the same years but you're really close But like quieter wasn't a mcdonald's. All american he was estate player year in california and he wasn't because he was he wasn't on the circuit. He wasn't as well known. Some guys are there because of their rankings. Some guys there because of their high school some guys there because of their nba draft status more than how good a player they actually were. And i thought we were missing evaluating you and your recruiting class because of mcdonald's all american status and i don't think i articulated enough right and it's as you do. Tv now knows lawmakers like you must have been forty seconds. Come into fast right like and look at visas beyond. My style is a lot like yours. I just say what i think and and not realizing at the time that i'm putting a complete undue amount of stress and pressure on you and not having any clue what's going on your personal life so i most poorly. I apologized you. As i didn't know and i'm one of these guys where i literally has nothing to do with me personally. It's it's more like hey were we. It's more important more. I still believe it's more on how we evaluate what a player should be simply because of how decorated he was in high school. Or how highly ranked. He wasn't high school. Where you and. I both know you get to college. And you'll play doozy like edwards terrible and then you'll have another guy like i've never heard of this guy in my life and you did this. Though in in the wisconsin heard where this it's more professional basketball we can never heard of this. He's unbelievable where's he been like mosul. What great example of that. When i was at wisconsin we played against paul meltsa. Never heard almost little falls done that right like and so much of it is about what system. You're in getting a break you all that i mean that that's what it is and for meal at one eight five and everything. I had gone up. I wasn't in the mental space to be the player that i needed to be by the time i left much different like i mean. By the time. I left first team all big ten or we won big ten championship. That's what was what was what was really are like so blow now. I can call we can. We can chop it up all the time. You were walking into balls office to have conversations. There was one way of doing it. And that goes back kind of howard richard. Like i didn't know how to defend. Because i was in the middle of a two three zone my whole mo light school time and you had late bows way there was no other way right like you got. Shoot out you got But the thing is even though red-shirted. I had his respect. Because i remember we wanna practice in bows at a guy like i was like what was l. a. An elderly made by the way what that would mean. Coach runner as back to california. They called me edwards. What your ass out every day because you can take young and but not everybody can take it. That was his whipping boy. That was the difference right. And i remember my redshirt year. We're getting towards the end of the year. And i'm starting to play at a level that i'm like this is what i should be playing like. This is hour. Should be playing and one of the starters. I just kept giving a buckets and buckets and buckets. Finally i'm i'm hitting three a. He just chucked. He just goes to handwriting. To my chest me he's righted scout team just whip who is what was the starter day made. It was the now live right next to. It's crazy said it was an apple. Two guy so i got back up. This is rob jeeter. Selma staff in ravi had that now the head coach at a western illinois But like he had that in. I'm like robbie that he was on the scout team. We'll talk a little bit. So i got right back up and i started swinging that day. We started swelling and bows over there just last and at that point i knew i had his respect as you go through redshirt year. He doesn't really pay much attention. Like hey you go with the strike. Gaffe get your weight on gift strong. Would you can help me come. We'll talk type deal now. Bowl was a little bit more than that but most of the time. When you're you're out of play like their job to win games now. Matt when you're right like they gotta win games now. So that's kinda. Where was that and So that's how played. Yeah when i say like what was What was belykh. Jimmy exempt games. What was he like was bring games. Like what was it really. Like to be you playing for bo ryan in the biggest anti target. I'll say the only games that are practices were different leading up to. It was marquette and michigan state. We knew what it was marquette game. We knew what a michigan game michigan sticking. We knew we were gonna run lies before in practice the day before we knew before a big game. It's because he was nervous like we knew like that. Just one it was gonna be like we knew he was going to say all right. You gotta are playing well enough. Get on the line like that was a given every single time. We played those guys but it was the same does. His preparation was the same. We would get any possessions in as long as we were one point per possession own practice. Doug get ready to rock role. We didn't change defenses a whole lot. We didn't put a new skis. We were just better at what we ran a. How did the most every team we played and like. There's you know basketball. The more difficult you make it the harder it is on everybody like it was sipple and we were really good at it. And that's what we want so you'll bow at his quirks historian lot my senior year. I finally had enough confidence to talk to him about it and say. Hey what's going. But i always say coach. Why do you always sit in the back of the plane. Like what's up front. You ever see the plane golf course. If you ever see coach at find comebacks coach it is played goes down. We're all done. I don't care. If it's i knows first world dead like if this plane's going down world done you're not survive like that was that p. a. n. band like that. Just that philly guy. Now i gotta jane ramble. Dickey was on our staff. James the head coach at texas tech at the time and essentially you. After i left they had plane crash and i will never forget ronald dicky's to the same plane that went down. We always thought it was the third plane we we flew three or four planes and he said i was like man. Why are you going. Oh man you see one of these things back in april it is about. We're gonna but whatever you do you do you you you you do you How hard is it to look back. No hey junior. We could have won the whole thing if not for the album. I'll be. I'll be hundred percent earlier like i don't look back at the past the past the past like i. I mean we had a really good team. Dislocate my What we do. Hey the verdict still out. In my opinion. I mean we end up losing to. Unlv long trigger in son knows at you. Like i mean he went off. I didn't play in the tournament at all You know you talk about like what moments might be like. That's a moment that obviously leads me to a bigger platform because it's the ncaa tournament if you play won the ncaa tournament boom spotlight's on you. Everyone's talking about your more draft. Scouts are doing their jobs. I mean let's be you know you've been on. Its i've been on the inside alami. Scouts don't necessarily do their job. They just look at the board said. Oh this guy's year will look at this and then we'll start to evaluate a little bit more black. You gotta get on the list. I and you gotta be on all that stuff is. That's a little bit different but like we had a really good team. We still even with a two ts. Wisconsin went back to back final fours. They still were ranked number one in the country. We were the only team to be ranked number one in the country. Wisconsin still yes. It will look at what could have been absolutely. But i don't like there should be good things ahead of us. A head of what's going on to sit back and look back. Funds will could have been should have been like cards. We were dealt man okay. Your last game was Steph curry's last win in the ncaa term k when you're getting ready to you're getting ready Georgetown was top team in the country. They they take down georgetown. So you guys got like a week off to a pair for davidson. Would you honestly think. 'cause i every scout i've ever been in. Ncaa tournament like this team is incredible. Every is incredible right. They build them up because they davidson. You're watching tape. What we're good like working like he's not going to do that. He's had a great weekend when he can't do that again but he can't do that again like there's no way we're good. We're gonna put kansas for a chance to file for your senior year in detroit where we're gonna have a boatload of fans like and we could beat this kansas team because his hands on the dick was that good they i love the matchup. They had sasha chicago but they had morial like all right there all right but then you know going over that with like i get all that but i still didn't think they were that good. I thought we could compete with them. Get a beat him. Like that's worth thinking and then all of a sudden our point guard trayvon us roles against so he comes. He's practicing all day all week. Long a little bit before game is michael hearts like a kid go then at that point. It was like oh man like now. We're shifting guys are best defender is there. But now when mike goes might the flowers goes out. Jason handed on staff and like jay bills a great shooter but great djabel was never a defender and now scramble and then steph starts cooking once he started cooking about that first half i said oh now like because you knew once he was done like we thought the weekend before we saw the film and now we're starting to see in person and i was like a really good point guard in richardson. Research very very. Yeah really guard saw. They had a decent big. But there's no way we should have lost that game just a maga- hot in the i'll say this i'll say that you use that's my point is gonna like hot. That's who he is he is. He didn't raise the shot to get broke. Everybody that's my point is like we thought he got hot and then he started real and then like you look at his career in your life. Y'all like i'm doing. Tv you're still hoping mpp like hey overseas to do by overseas japan like more power to like this. This is a real question. Because i did games that year and y- famous for what i thought it'd be jeff wear secondly so i thought it did you do like. Oh that he's that's a dude like that's an mvp two time mvp great shooter in the history of the sport. No i thought he misses dan right like stick around because you knew and i knew at that point if you made shots in the nba. You could survive like if you make shots you can survive in the nba like the but if that's what you do. That is a skill set that the nba looks at way more than any other any other level. Like if you make shot you can survive. I thought he was going to be. I didn't know what he's going to be this like sell. You looked at it and you said you weren't like nobody thought he was going to be what he was but i think it goes back to away. The game's changed now. The emphasis on three and then he had great players around him that they were able to build it in the scituate. Now you can throw steph anywhere but it helps the pieces that they have around like you gotta have. Yes yes which is crazy. He he he. He got better When was the point and played all over right. Yeah went when he did the bakersfield jam. It was was adjusted. I just i got. I got gotta play lake play in the league like what was the because you played overseas. And the money's better over his was that the reason for going back stateside so ma. I two years. I fought for money overseas so i was in china at a great deal played a game. They had a plane ticket on my bed after a game. It's said hey you're going back here we're sending okay great but so i had a whole bowl money that i didn't get their winter. Greece was playing well. They didn't pay me. I was sick at not getting paid like it. Was that simple like i. I was fighting so much and the joy of just playing was gong. And i'm big on that like my passion and my joy for the love of the game. That's why i played. It was never about the money. I was sitting in greece in on a legit. I need to go the lee or the deal at that point and i need to just figure out like cannot make a career. This rocket get paid decent money without having to chase it hostage and i i think that was the best thing for me was not yet paid. Is that was in bakersfield and three three months later i got called up to the nuggets like it was like that was that was that was the difference like it. Click for me. Because i was a big. That could shoot defensively. I wasn't that good. Good feet conveyed. warranty Gm nuggets was from bakersfield stories. Catch the game. He just change. Like do i want to bring you up because you can stretch slower on. Thank you know big. They can play that. Give mellow space. Like i wanna be able to do all that for you had defense end for me so it was like even if you just rebound the bathroom. That's a skill set. So from that point on. I twenty five thirty straight double doubles where it was just like aren't that's my skill set. Perfect a didn't you get cut before or setback gamma four playing a game like either young. So i had. I had a two year deal and So i got called the end of the end of the year and then i was in the playoffs et the teams in the playoffs and i had another year deal on a contract so you go play somberly right like that's what it is. You play some a ruptured Attendant in some so. I was out fifty. No but didn't you like when you call up from jammed. The denver injia called up. Then they put on In play you before you ever played a game so it was in the year contract exactly so i never played but that was a two year deal so i had end of year contract then. I played summer league in that. I had a whole 'nother year contract And before i was ever to get into game play at the end of the year. But i'm like all right great. I'm set up for neo for next year. Let's do summer league. let's play. Let's figure all this stuff out in that some league when is when a ruptured patella tendon. And that's when they released me then at that point. You're fighting right like you've got that you've got that that exxon your on your name injury-prone this and that. So here's the kicker fifteen months back. I'm back at work. My way back is the lock on you. I signed a contract with new orleans. And i'm gonna start a preseason game two prisons game i'm starting. That's the year chris. Paul gets traded but chris. Paul doesn't get traded. 'cause david exe as it so like there's nobody on this. Pelicans roster on this hornets roster. There's nobody this is like ideal this is what lance thomas makes a name for himself writing these able say right so i'm starting not not a problem. Good this is great. They're li our bags are packed. We're doing one drill. I'm out hedging a ball screen. Drummed dicing comes into my knee. Bouma other knee rupture term patella tendon. Chair my Mc l. and it's like yeah in it's that was that would be my best shot to to like stick earliest have a plight in do it. And at that point I wasn't the g. league a little delete a little bit longer. Because i just wanted to see like i was stubborn at that point. I remember halfway through. I said i'd call Do like is this going to happen or not as i don't need this. Fake agent talk is if it's is this one was twenty nine the cash. Zip not any big money So i went overseas. I played everywhere. I played in dubai. A plant in the philippines played in tokyo wherever i was going to get paid. Let's go with cash out. Let's make these last couple of years. Great those are the best years because my wife at that point travel. The world got paid monthly. Do i want to do another pod. We did the travels yet. Here's here's so we'll do that. I gotta run my radio show so i got two more for Four minutes or First one is. This one was the moment which you're done. I was in for coca in japan. And at that point Married longtime i looked at. What am i doing like whereas gave here Let did you play game aso. We won a championship want a championship. But for me to be able to play at the level that i expect myself to play like i just. I hurt my knees hurt. My back hurt. Everything was done. I said what is this so i want to championships japan. I that's it it's dog you now have your own camps. A ski academy like this is be built a life on basketball But like how. What is it like though to you. Wanna teach kids the game you want but there are certain kids which you got no shot yet other kids which like have a shop that you have to list. You have to trust me. Because i've lived this life. What's that experience like you. add to. The biggest thing is the kids aren't going to get the division one scholarship. My biggest thing is will what are in just being real with like. What are your goals. Goals play high school basketball. Let's get you to that level like it's not going to be the place de one. I'll tell you that right now. And i think the time that you're honest with people in whatever you do now you set them up to be successful which you can't give 'em fake news. You can't give them the stuff in fells. Hope of this whether to be. And i think that's where we start with it and then when these kids do get and make a high school one kid i worked with was not that good. He made the high school team. He was a contributor that was the highlight of his whole career. Now he's a manager with the minnesota gophers. Like i mean like that's his thing so he's still part of the game but it's because he had a good experience with the game this Okay so we'll set up as part two for next week and now we can run them kind of back to back. But here's the it's interesting brad. Stevens i asked him about his son. Brady and i said how's he doing. He's like he'll play high school basketball. Maybe i played the Like what he's gonna grow up loving the game being around the game and if you want to can make a life out of the gate which is you know at but it's really hard for a kid when they're twelve thirteen fourteen to have that perspective you know it is so that's the biggest thing man that's what we do with all of our kids in Young love it. You can do it like we'd like you've done like i've done. I guess just doing everything that we're doing that i'm doing now like it. Just because they treat the outdoors Young if you treat the game while the game will be good. You don't know if i agree with that that's for that's far next pot. Okay parker garnett As far as in the meantime i really appreciate you and know how busy you are and will do partout. Bergerson heart sounds good thanks. That's part one. Brian butch. I wanted to get to him playing overseas and what those stories were actually like. 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Women Could Be Aided by 'Caregiving Economy' Investment

"A big boost for boeing and at seven three seven. Max we'll tell you which airline order dozens of new jets plus the pandemic pushed millions of women out of the workforce. Now the white house wants to spend to bring them back. They see these investments as important as investing in things like roads and bridges. We'll break down the plans and the price tag and the giant ship in the suez canal made a free but there are still obstacles facing freight. It's tuesday march thirtieth. I'm mark stewart with the wall street journal. And this is what snoops were going to begin. In canada where health officials have recommended that the astrazeneca coping nineteen vaccine not be given to people under the age of fifty five. This change in guidance comes in light of evidence from europe on potentially serious side effects targeting younger women canada's drug regulator has ordered the drugmaker to conduct a detailed analysis to help determine whether specific demographic groups might be at higher risk and astra zeneca spokesman said the company respects the decision of the immunisation advisory panel adding the country's drug regulators still deemed vaccine to be safe for use southwest airlines. Says it's buying one hundred new. Boeing seven. Thirty seven max jets. It's the largest max order since. Us regulators lifted a flight ban on the max following two crashes involving the aircraft that claimed more than three hundred lives south west executives have long held that flying just one type of plane help simplify operations and keeps a lid on the cost of maintenance and training a boeing executive said the southwest agreement ensures. The planemaker will be building seven. Thirty sevens for the carrier for years to come bringing more stability. The biden administration has said it wants to jump start. The country's shore wind business the plans would include giving wind power developers access to more of the atlantic host white house officials also said they want to fast track leasing in federal waters off the new york and new jersey coasts. The moves are intended to boost industry. That has had a slow start in the. Us often stymied by federal permitting. The us currently has just to offshore wind farms with fewer than ten turbines in operation as we talked about on the show last night the giant ship locking the suez canal has now been freed. But there's another challenge getting in the way of already strained global supply chains. There's a shortage of shipping containers needed to move goods around the world and the problem is likely to get worse. Let's talk to markets columnist. Mike byrd mike. You're in hong kong a big port in asia. How big of a role is the suez canal plane into this well. It certainly hasn't helped things. Have you stolen a major global shipping lane. Let that for so long. It's going to have an impact but most of these problems were really emplaced beforehand. And they're down to a number of factors one is that the pandemic has made a lot of shipping protocols just substantially more difficult unloading ships takes longer for example but there are also other fights is going on. Us imports have been very strong for the last year. that's just making demand for shipping his highest. So you imagine you've got very high demand already and it's taking longer to turn though shipping containers around get them back to manufacturing centers in asia for example. Get them refilled. That probably takes longer. You can see whether these strains come from the not all relates to the suez canal and mike much of these containers are used to transport everything from coffee to furniture things we use every day. So how about just building more containers would bat help. Well building contain his might relieve a little bit of the short-term pressure. It is not a sort of real solutions of this for starters. You only have a certain number of ships to put the his all nikon expand that very quickly very easily. You also have the same issues with unloading which you know you can add more containers but it's just gonna take even longer to unload. Everything is almost all of the will shipping containers on monday factored by a few really big players in china so for countries outside of china. Unless it's expanded that they really don't have that many options you know. The idea of quickly building capacity to ben build shipping containers you know actual manufacturing plant. That's definitely not going to happen in the showed sam okay. We'll keep watching hong kong and other ports around the world. Mike byrd thanks so much. Thanks very much more just ahead. A big part of president biden. Spending plan is expected to focus on women in the workforce who also serve as caregivers or break things down with our white house reporter after the break. I'm alex you'll host of the reback from there. It's been an extraordinary year for stock markets particularly for companies going public. Ipo stored and they show no sign of slowing down but the boom didn't come out of the blue and there was plenty of pain on the roads ipo success. So how do you put a price on innovation. This season. the back we'll find out. We're winding back. The clock on a decade of ipo's from facebook to uber and airbnb. The read back is available wherever you get podcasts. President biden is set to start unveiling his proposed multi trillion dollar package this week. We'll certainly hear about big projects like infrastructure. But he's also looking to include investment in child and elder care needs. His administration sees these issues as barriers for women in the workplace particularly during the pandemic. This is a topic are white house. Reporter catherine lucy has been following and she joins me from washington. Catherine good to have you here. Great to be here catherine. Let's set the stage here. What do the numbers show about. How women have fared in the workforce over the past year. We'll be no as it. Millions of women have left the workforce during the pandemic and for many that has been ju at least in part the pressures of child care and handling remote schooling. An analysis of government data from the national women's law center showed that women's participation in the labor force us slipped to fifty seven percent which is the lowest it been since nineteen eighty eight and overall more than two point. Three million women have dropped out of the labor force during the pandemic. that's compared with one point. Eight million men and so as part of his economic proposal president biden is expected to address what he calls the caregiving economy. Can you explain what he means by that. That's right mark a what we're expecting to hear from the president. You know in the coming weeks as he talks about a big multi trillion dollar investment economic investment. Is it a piece of that is going to be in child. Care and elder care needs now. His administration thinks of this as quote the caregiving economy. And they see these investments as important as investing in things like roads and bridges. They see these. As need for families particularly for women that caregiving concerns have been a real barrier for women in the workforce particularly during the pandemic. And that's been particularly true. For low income and minority women no the details of the caregiving proposals and the overall economic plan are still being worked out. But we know that on the campaign trail biden proposed things like free universal pre kindergarten subsidies for childcare and after school programs and resources for elderly care. How is the administration proposing to pay for all of this. That's right how they're going to fund this and of course we're talking about a big overall economic plan that bull include investments in infrastructure in the environment as well as other issues it's likely to be in the trillions and we're expecting to hear some parts of that the present this week but probably the guarantees. That will come later. We have not heard a full details yet on how they're gonna pay all these things but we know the administration is waiting you know variety of tax increases and other other ways to pay for it during the campaign on the president proposed a precare getting proposal that was in the billions and at that time they propose paying for caregiving by rolling back tax breaks for real estate investors with incomes of more than four hundred thousand annually. So that's one thing that we could see that again. They are still working out. How they're going to pay for some of these things but politically speaking. This could be a battle point. That is the issue with all of these. Things is how you pay for it. A how the president works with republicans on a on paying for these programs. Republicans are by large. You know skeptical of new tax increases. We spoken to republican lawmakers. Who are interested in working on these issues. I think it's important to note that there is bipartisan. Ish interest in working on issues like child care and support for families we've seen that from democrats and republicans in the house and the senate that they say that they see that these are real concerns in their states but republicans are wary of how you're gonna pay for some of these big programs you'll hear from them often that they'd like to see more flexibility for states They don't like mandates and there's concerns about you know big tax hikes. So i think that is going to be the real sort of admin. That's gonna be the tension as as the president tries to move forward with this program catherine lucy. I have a feeling we'll have many more conversations on these issues ahead. Many thanks for talking to us. Thank you i hope. We'll talk again soon and finally on many people's post pandemic wishlist is to attend a concert after more than a year on pause. Artists can't wait either. But there's a potential crisis not enough roadies. The people who do everything from lighting and sound to working as ushers and and move from gig to gig tour to tour without live events. Many roadies took on jobs that might be more stable or have benefits. Some have gone to work for amazon. One production manager started a cinnamon bun bakery with his wife nonetheless. Roadies will likely be in demand once things get up and running again one entertainment executive told us it's going to be a years worth of shows scheduled in six months and that's news for tuesday. We're back tonight with a new show. Until then we'll be watching the top stories including the markets on wsj.com and the journal app. I'm mark seward with the wall street journal. Thanks for listening.

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One and Done: Serial Killers and Their Zodiac Signs

Happy Hour Gets Weird

20:27 min | 1 year ago

One and Done: Serial Killers and Their Zodiac Signs

"Hi and welcome or welcome back. I'm Cathy I'm tiffany and this is our one episode for Happy Hour Guests Weird where we drink a beer and have a short discussion on on something a little bit more lighthearted maybe then our main episodes so this week we did an astrology sign episode and we decided for a one and done. It'd be kind of cool to see what the serial killer some of the big hitter heavy hitters. What their signs things were so this week? We are drinking mango cart. A MANGO WHEAT ALE from Golden Road Brewing. And I had this before An is delicious. I haven't had it. You'RE GONNA love it so while I pour defects. Why don't you could start with the list? So like Cassie said usually are one and denser slightly more harder than this because it's not just a list of serial killers others but it's still kind of interesting to us just to see how the signs may be a fact these certain individuals because we know who they are we know about their crimes and we were just interested in the topic. Like if you were Scorpio are you more likely to be a serial killer exactly. Let's start with capricorn. Okay the list and this is not all inclusive also. I got this list offer anchor. That's my source okay. So Capricorn. Dean Quarrel Aka the CANDYMAN member. Him Texas I do twenty eight plus boy victims. Yes yes Charles. Inc Eleven to twenty five victims Ian Brady of the Moors Murders William Bonin the freeway killer out of California he targeted young men on the freeway in the seventy S. Okay and Dorothea Puente. who was the landlady who killed her? Elderly Sacramento yes. In Sacramento hotels elderly. Talking about tenants tenants yes and collected to their social security checks. Yes uh-huh checks at the nearby bar. Yes so that's the list of Capricorn serial killers interesting interesting. Yeah they all seem kind of different. I'm surprised so kappa corns done. They are awful Aquarius Joel Rifkin Aka Joel. The ripper had seventeen plus victims out of New York state in the late. Eighty S Jerry broncos. Who for some reason? They called the lest killer. was that really his nickname. This is the guy who would Jerk off to ladies shoes he was on mind hunter. They talked about how okay I know who you're talking about. I had four victims. I don't know why some of these killers get like cutesy. Weird Pisces of all this air colors would have a foot fetish not Aquarius. Yeah Robert Hanssen Aka the butcher Baker her out of Alaska. Yes the guy who hundred people in Alaska. He had seventeen to twenty victims. and Gary Ridgway the Green River killer which I think is probably the most prolific American serial killer as of right. Now I'm not sure about SAM little I exit. They're still trying to well after that. Those are all Israel truth claims. Yeah Gary Ridgway is green with isn't on my list. By the way which is strange. He is the green over killer. I actually read the book by Admiral. Gary Ridgway Wow I think you should read it he will he. I don't know if he seems like an Aquarius to me. I don't no no well. He is and he's a total dickhead. So the all of these people on this list have one thing in common. And that's total fucking Dick Heads. So you got that right next Pisces okay. I'm surprised even Pisces is a killer. Eileen were not. And if you don't know who that is you're probably I'm listening to the wrong podcast. Exactly apologies get out now when you can also watch monster. I enjoyed that movie. Richard Ramirez the night stalker. Or as I like to call him Mr Ginger Vitus okay. The worst anthem. I am like my whole life has been a lie right now. He has my favorite favor getting caught story about how a bunch of civilians chased him. beat the shit out of him. That is an amazing getting. We're not for vigilante justice. Unless you you speak for yourself okay we are for it. If you're oddest tool Henry Lucas Buddy and crime of. Oh yeah that was that he was A little tidbit on the Compassion killer net flicks. You out as tool was they supposedly traveled around the country. Yes they traveled all kind of around yet and they were one of those people that I think claimed more than they actually did absolutely Henry. Lucas did yes. Dennis rader Peter Major piece of Shit also known as K Pisces. And yes Vince. Since btk gave himself his own nickname. I don't think anybody ever called him. That he had ten victims. One day. Man For sure pee wee gaskins and. That's the truth. And that's the final truth Christopher Wilder Aka the beauty queen killer and this was one that I didn't know about. He had nine victims out of Australia in the eighties deck. Move Yeah I wrote fuck this garbage of a human that was. That's my note. John Wayne Gay see. I think we all do that is I am totally shocked by life has been turned upside down. I can't believe this list is Pisces. And don't name name your kid. John Wayne it's just it's just setting them up for failure allowed if you name them after John Wayne Well John Wayne is doing is a living legend. So yeah don't name Kit out. I feel like it's a setting them up for failure. Yeah Okay and then Randy Steven Kraft the scorecard killer killer. He had between forty three and sixty seven victims and he had a type of scorecard made up of his victims and potential victims and when he was caught he had a deceased man and his car. Disgusting that was in the seventies and early eighties. Yeah so yeah. You were surprised by the Pisces but they were someone some of the the terrible. Yeah no but really some of the the terrible terrible. Where the Pisces? I am totally shocked the next week of Aires Okay Keith Jespersen Aka the happy face killer he murdered women while he was driving cross country three okay and then he wrote letters to the media and sign them with a smiley face. Dick Yeah Donald Harvey. He had thirty seven to fifty seven victims and he was an angel of death. Type Murderer worked as an orderly. Okay Paul Knowles. The CASANOVAS killer had thirteen to thirty five victims. uh-huh Herbert Mullin thirteen victims. He was across the country as well. I'm pretty violent. And Yeah that's the last of the aries not a ton of the crazy well-known ones on the area side. No all terrible. The tourists also didn't have a ton Martha Pat. who was half of the lonely hearts killers? They had between three and seventeen victims. I think that the reason why they're such a big discrepancy is I think it's what they claim versus what they what they were found guilty for. So I think that's why the numbers are so okay teen is alive ebay killed seventeen people. They could only prove three. Yes exactly so. She and her husband met people through lonely hearts ads in the paper and murder them. which is all terrible? It's like you you know this is terrible. NCO hearts terrible terrible. Terrible H H Holmes. Have you heard of him he he and I love this between nine and two hundred victims okay. MIC didn't fucking murder two hundred people. He could have. He didn't which really had a castle dedicated to murder. I know but I don't think he was operating Dir of the world's fair. I don't think he really killed as he didn't kill two hundred people because that piece of shit he just wants the fame and glory. Sorry why ninety nine all right I think he old people also Albert fish the worst the worst. He's so disgusting and terrible and Albert Fish and homes are kind of both equally fucking disgusting. Put a needle right through his heart. He should have before or he ever did. Anything to put the needle. Yes Elvis Penis Pelvis and penis region. Excuse me you're saying penis wrong Oh my gosh all right next Gemena. Okay Jeffrey Dahmer. Maybe you've heard of him. Okay okay. I have heard a Jeffrey Dahmer and that does make sense. I feel like Jeffrey. Dahmer had a duality to him and he is the sign of the twins. He did Kenneth Behind the hillside strangler one part of it one half of the hill. Hillside Strangler Richard Chase the Vampire of Sacramento. Oh one of the most disturbing case of cases I've ever learned about honestly. It's it's terrible. It's terrible Peter Curtain the Vampire of Dusseldorf Danny Rolling Aka the GAINESVILLE ripper Robert Lee. Yates who murdered thirteen women and targeted sex workers which I find extremely despicable because I feel like they do that because they think that they'll get away with it for longer and I. That's despicable me because a lot of sex workers have no they fall through the crack. Right they don't get support from law enforcement. They also a lot of the time lose touch with family and friends to nobody reports missing so funky Robert. Louis David Berkowitz the son of Sam Okay and John Norman Collins Aka the coed killer a violent murderer who was kind of all over the place. Weird Weird I'm surprised that son of SAM is on here David Berkowitz because he shot people from afar. which is the exact opposite of somebody like Richard Chase the Vampire of Sacramento? What what time was this again Gemini and also the exact opposite of like Jeffrey Dahmer? Yeah yeah it doesn't really seem the same category as Dahmer and Hillside stranglers right and a coed killer. I mean I just found that interesting. I don't I don't get the big thing I I don't get the big thing with some Sun Osama anyways I think it's because he gave himself a nickname and I think it's because it was so random random that people felt like they couldn't defend themselves. It's like I can't just go outside now. Yeah he's just another loser. Who Shot people piece alright? Next next. We have cancer okay and I only have to cancer. I'm not surprised. Cancer is is kind of a giving loving sign. Carl answer the answer am Oh shit. He was a cancer. Yes no way full of rage also interesting interesting tidbit. He robbed President Taps Mansion Clough Pans rammed it. Yes stolen gun which I think he used on a few people and most if not all of his victims were male also. There is Janine Jones. This bitch was a nurse and murder children and babies. Now I understand this bitch this guy this bitch. Yeah what I could say. This bitch after everybody on this array right. It's a short. And should he lists for cancers. I Guess Yeah Leo. CEO Myra Hindley which is the other half of the Moors murderers okay. John Haig Aka the acid bath breath killer which I hadn't heard about about asa bath killer England zero killer. I've heard of him and Anthony so well. The Cleveland Strangler Eleven victims out of Ohio in the early two thousands so one of them are more recent ones next. We have Virgo Henry Lee Lucas. Who claimed eleven to six hundred victims? Okay Fuck you Rodney. Alcala Aka the dating game killer. The Guy who was dating show is terrible. He he was. Oh so terrible. Ed Geene okay. Who I call the crafter? He's he was crafty. He really wasn't. I mean he unburdened people but really women but really he was more of a neck romance or yes he he ran out of bodies or something. No I think he got no. I think what happened was he couldn't stand the smell of the dead bodies. And then he also got yearly fixated on these older women because his mother issue. I think that he really I think he's one of those people that if they would have had psychological help this could have been avoided. I Agree Paul Bernardo the piece of Shit who murder girls in Canada with his demented wife. Karla homolka Albert desalvo the Boston Strangler. Oh he and he targeted older women strangled on like with stockings and yeah and then Mary about the tinning who murdered her children. What a garbage human? Yep Next Libra. 's Patrick Carney the freeway killer another freeway killer in California we get a lot of freeway away killers and there's a ton of freeway killers. Yeah this one was like in the early sixties seventies pretty much from like fifty five eighty. Don't fucking go anywhere in California basically Angelo. Whoa no the other Hillside Strangler partner and Charlene Gallego who with her husband murdered ten victims usually teens they were sexual predators out of Sacramento in the late seventies early eighties? I'm trying to think if I I heard that case before it's a lesser talked about one. They were looking for a sex slave. It's fucking disgusting there. It's a really disturbing cases. They take in in foster kids now. I don't think so okay. I don't think I know that case so next Scorpio's okay top two I think Our secretary since Scorpio. All Right Leonard Lake Charles Inks Accomplice Derrick Todd the Baton Rouge serial killer Alton Alton Coleman coral Eugene Watts. They called him the Sunday morning. slasher William Harris the lipstick. Killer Belle. Gunness really try. flers need not apply. Oh my goddess back on my goodness. Oh my goodness Mike All Right. So the Scorpio. VAT is a list full of heavy hitters again. Yeah so last and certainly not least. I've saved Sagittarius. Do you have a person that you think is on this list May. Are you asking me or asking listeners. Both but only only you can respond. I thought Ted Bundy was a Sagittarius. You thought corrrect and you and I are also Sagittarius. I know and we hate Ted Bundy. Oh He's the worst the worst. So Dennis Nilsen is a sanitary as the notorious British NECROPHILIAC who dismembered his body ladies and is referred to as the British Dahmer. Was He the He was a homosexual right Yen Right yes. I know who you're talking about. Yes he is pretty much the British Dahmer but he doesn't like that because he thinks he's more deep than Dahmer. You okay. He's more distinguished. Yeah just because you have an accent I think thanks Oh may lead is actually all that needs. That's mate is that English will. Yeah like isn't it just because you're drinking tea when you're murdering people doesn't make your better air brexit. Oh I wasn't doing an accent. I was just pissed. Okay Ted Bundy and for the record no. We don't think he's cute. No it was a sex offender. His victims are women and children and he was talking NECROPHILIAC. Here is my thing with Bundy. I can't stand him I think he is the biggest narcissist I feel like he skirted responsibility. And I feel like if you're gonNA get caught and you're gonNA give interviews news. Why don't you give? Why don't you? He likes skirted around the fact that he was how sick he actually what does he doesn't have empathy and he just wanted the limelight. He's a piece of shit and I hate how people talk about him like. He's not a piece of shit. Listen I'm telling you right now. He stupid in a Turtleneck. Okay the fucking piece of Shit. There's also Raymond Fernandez the other half of the lonely hearts killers. Oh Okay and at Kemper Ed Kemper And if you don't know who that is please watch a mind hunter. Because his character is I'm not gonNA say great because he's a serial killer but they do sell good job after they do such a good job talking about his Ed campers character on mind hunter. So it's worth it just to learn about him. Well okay so. The actor does a great job pulling joining Ed Kemper or portraying ed cameras. The show does a good job at it. For lack of better terms featuring at Kemper yes and I feel like he is he is a fascinating character. It just ain't right he is. He's a very good example of when people are trying to think nature versus nurture. If he he would've had a different upbringing his entire trajectory might have been different yes. He's a prime example of that. He killed his mother yes he he had sex with her skull and he also killed and dismembered codes for young women. Yes but well-spoken strange very straight very strained runs with police officers one of those people that everybody was honestly shocked very strange strange situation so well that was it. I have to say me personally. I was surprised I thought there would be a lot less spicy killers and a lot. More Scorpio killers. I'm disappointed that I share assigned with Ted Bundy me too. I'd much prefer that he was in aries to be honest me too I would. Let's trade him out for Dahmer Okay. I'll trade him for Dahmer okay. Now that we've had the whole discussion about the signs. It is fascinating to look at these horrible people. People and how their crimes correlate with their signs well and I also think too that it's really about nature versus nurture. You could be born in any sign and I think that that doesn't like predetermine you to be violent. Definitely not we have violence across all the signs. Yeah and I think it just happened. I don't know I just really hate Ted Bundy. Moral of the story is Fuck Ted Bundy. Yeah and the moral of this Ted. Bundy cheers cheers to that

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Security Guard Killed Over Mask?! United Airlines Breaking Up with Employees?! Wheres The Beef?! - The Pascal Show - Part 3 of 3

The Pascal Show Podcast

38:09 min | 1 year ago

Security Guard Killed Over Mask?! United Airlines Breaking Up with Employees?! Wheres The Beef?! - The Pascal Show - Part 3 of 3

"Can make short second one is in jail books. Lucas offers to being cleared free spin. I resolution voters besides lots of Brita. Filter secrete impressive banks ultimate focus in picture body last but not least is quotas soon. Classic seven June classic seven is in marching photos while preserving equipped with Ben Vistas. You need this point. Acknowledges allows you to create sharp crisp clear the intruded majorie imaging perfect images originating from the Internet. What's the show you how to use photos agreed sharper images for years to say you Jack for what yeah? Okay sorry I was wondering what that was brought. Okay Oh yeah okay okay today so far good to see cedric on again but a while my brother man. We're we're working on something right now for the for him in the show and you know what I mean talking smack. Wow Okay I got to address that and some James is talking shit about the interview with with. Joyce we got ten seconds. It's all good. It is what it is. Welcome back guys. Thank you so much for tuning in and checking out this show And of course like I always say if this is your first time checking out this show. Police had hit that subscribe button. Hit that like button on our facebook page and of course hit that like button underneath this feed right now as we speak. It's been a wonderful show. You know it was really nice to give back to some some someone who is on the front lines just risking your life every single day so that made me feel regardless of anything else no matter how bad or great. My Day goes. I'm going to feel fantastic today. I I feel good that I was able to bless somebody and just in a way. Say thank you to somebody who's doing something so great but of course. I got to address some of these comments that are going on down below. I know that James is saying some stuff that you know. I appreciate Debbie defending my honor defending me and my honor for real. Like I said you not. Everybody has to not everybody's going to enjoy this interview. Not Everybody's going to enjoy any of the interviews that I do and you guys are more than welcome to assess your own opinions. Because that's why we have that First Amendment you know freedom of speech freedom but I have to say she is a very very kind person and when you see the interview yourself you can assess in your own opinions. How you feel about that individual. But I'm telling you the interviews really great. She's really wonderful. She is so sweet and she is so kind and Somebody was just saying another Kardashian. She is by far from that. I'll just tell you that I'm going to defend her. Because I've gotten to know her and I've known her for a while. Now we've been friends since that the taping of that that interview even before the tapes of that interview we became fast friends. And I'm telling you she is not that type of person at all. She Ain't about that life. She's a great mom and she's a great grandmother and she loves her her grandkids and she loves her son. That's it and you'll see all of that for yourselves when you see the interview tomorrow at ten. Am Central Standard Time. That's all say about that but I appreciate everyone defending me in defending her. Because it's right. Don't judge a book by its cover. Check it out first and then assess your opinion. That's all I'll say about that all right anyway. Moving on Wood. Great thank you so much for tuning in and giving love on the show. I appreciate that man would greenhouse also said the interviews were dope especially you give one hundred bucks dope af thank you. Thank you so much sun. I really appreciate that Lord seriously man appreciate them my brother and yes. I'M GONNA be doing random giveaways like that not all the time. Come on man. Don't get twist still gotta live but I still want to be able to give back and all that and with being able to do. That is a blessing to be able to bless people with some dope things. Especially if you're doing something incredible if you're doing some dope let me let me bless you. You know what I'm saying but like I said it's going to have to be at a at scheduled times because I this is. This is not coming from me. This is coming from other from sponsors and all that are trying to give back and bless people who are doing really great things as well anyway. The brothers are still in the House with me. Guys WAS UP. I just missed it. I saw the cat on his shoulder. I was trying to get over there with a quick with the cat on his shoulder. Tom Tried Damn it but anyway the other thing is here it is. I'm still a very giving mood. I still want to give back. It won't be anything financial but I still want to give so if you guys WANNA call in at three one four seven six four five eight one you get a chance to win a coffee mug very simple you give us a call. 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I don't know much Bonnie Raitt except give them something to talk about originally by Patti Smith because the night he actually co wrote the song with her Honors Nineteen seventy eight album on the promise. Bruce Steam Burst Princeton. We got written by Richard. Berry originally performed by Rockin Robin Roberts in the whalers Louie Louie or Lou. I as some people would say why. I don't know that I mean I know the song we have a president. We don't have a queen but a king. Nope the Kingsman kingsman. I don't even know that bass should be able to get this one originally by Carl Perkins Blue Suede Shoes Presley Presley sir. Okay originally by Joni Mitchell Woodstock. This is when they had four people in the in the band crosby stills Nash and Young Yeah Dang Okay you're destroying Not Really I guess I know me just I gave up on. I quit. Damn that's not allowed by Robert Hazard. Girls Just WanNa have fun upper. Who GETS THAT ONE? Is there a delay going on? 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He said it's crazy It's into new on. Got a whole bunch more but originally Dolly Parton. I will always love you Whitney Houston. Let's hear him say it now. This is. Bs It's so bad. It's really bad originally by Dolly. Joe Lean Miley Cyrus Deck White to Jack White do it. What's the name of his band? The white stripes. You didn't hear me say Marley. Earn a flak killing me softly Lord Hill ten a little bit more inclusive eight foodies. The Fuji's go originally by the rolling stones. Let's spend the night together I don't even know the I don't even know rock we call. I don't know I even know the Song Bob Marley and the Wailers I shot the Sheriff Eric Clapton Clapton Man. No one's calling in or have you gotten a call. I haven't haven't seen things you want to continue on with these. The lays just so. Just keep on going here okay We got originally Kris Kristofferson. Me and Bobby McGee Jazz Dublin. Strapline Janice Joplin. We got originally home originally buy friends. 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Who's first studio album? Dreams and nightmares reached number two on the billboard. Two hundred any guess. The MEEK MILL MEEK mill. Okay we got from Lexington Kentucky. Turning fifty nine years old today. This actor director writer and producer became the first person to be nominated Academy Awards in six different categories winning his first Academy Award for best supporting actor in two thousand five film Syria Ana and he portrayed Dr Doug Ross on E. R. O. George Clooney correct. Okay let's twenty-seven-year-old today from London. England is a movie actress who played Mattie Shannon on Fox Science Fiction Series Terranova. She was also started as lords in two thousand thirteen short films our lady of Lords and she was on the adaptation of power rangers and she was also princess. Jasmine and the remake of Aladdin Do Not Know Naomi. Scott no zere recognizable face Okay we got engaged to more here. I'm going to do for you Turning sixty five years old today from Hager Hill Massachusetts We have the TV. Of Hollywood squares in America's funniest home videos and the. Tom Bergeron is like your parents. Can't you have there yeah? I don't know what she's doing up here today. She's found something. I don't know what it is now. Here's the last one for today. From and are we good seventy five years old? This is a rock and roll singer. Songwriter known for his raspy voice and blue collar the lyrics. He was a front man for the silver bullet band and had earned the page night moves old time rock and roll CPAP and Bob Seger look at scale. No because now the Internet's good now now now now. That's fine. Thanks so much for The game that was a lot of fun not contribute a whole lot a blast. It was a blast here. Too Much Fun types in Pascal. Show up okay. Sorry guys I got some some news that has got dropped in my hands right now. So so there's a this is something I totally forgot about and didn't bring bring bring up today on the show. We didn't talk about it but I am going to talk about it now. Live on the show. There was a there was a crime. There was a hate crime. The happened in the streets of Georgia Just the other day where a jogger was shot killed in the middle of the street. It was all captured on video. This video is viral. It's going around all over the place of circulating all over the place so this gentleman Ahmad Armory was killed. Twenty five year old man was his jogging. Actually this is a this is a video. That was interesting so this video came out on Tuesday so just yesterday but then on top of it. This was a video that was done. This is the shooting happened in February. So Mr Aubrey twenty-five was jogging in February when confronted by an ex policeman and his son the video of shows the shooting and this video Disa- merge and put out on Tuesday District Attorney in Georgia has now ruled that a grand jury should decide whether charges should be brought on the ex- on this ex-policeman and son literally. This is a Motte Aubrey. Aubrey was running obviously unarmed in the middle of the street. This ex policemen came out and shot him point blank range. It is all caught on video and yes the earlier decision by a prosecutor in the Brunswick jurisdiction argued. There was no probable cause to arrest Gr- The shooter and his son which their names are gregory. Mcmichael who is sixty four and his son? Travis who is Travis McMichael? Who is thirty four years old right now? Biden is demanding justice for the killing of this young innocent jogger in Georgia Aubrey. Aubrey was only twenty five years old. Y'All and was just literally running in the streets of Georgia minding his own business where the Mcmichael's came up and shot him in point blank. Range shot him dead right there in the middle of the street so that was some interest. That's some interesting information and that's stuff that just happened just now or that has been leaking being shared quite a bit but the fact that they have not found any probable cause to arrest. These two gentlemen is beyond me and the fact that now Biden has to come out and say we must seek justice for this inhumane. Act of violence in inhumane. Act of this. It's it's insane now. This videos out viral being shared all over the all over the place. I mean Real Talk Black. Instagram and black twitter's ablaze about this situation. And the fact that there is no probable cause to arrest these two men. These two men who literally went out shot a man who was jogging. What the Hell is that? Yeah that's plenty of probable cause plenty Tom. Yeah it's it's really sickening that this happened I guess. They said that they thought he was somebody that had just robbed or whatever guy was out jogging. Jog even go out jogging now. You get a black man. You can't just go for a jog without some good old boy gun and you down and saying oh I thought it was the guy that Robbie gives why I mean the whole time. This is happening. You look at Michigan. These people people up there storming the Capitol building with gun slung over their shoulder. That are being politely. Told to go home politely. Just out for a jog getting shot down you thank you. Somebody else said it. Not Me literally. There are videos out there where they're showing side-by-side footage of sorry to do this. I'm sorry to go on using the race card but I'm using it. You Got White men who are sitting there with their Ar. Fifteen standing on state capital land just standing in front of the state capital with their fifteen bad assery. And all that and then you got young young men and women black men and women who are getting punched in the face tackled basically shackled. And all this stuff is being captured on tape yet. The Americans that are sitting there going. I got my rights. I got my First Amendment Rights. This is my country. I got my rights. They're the ones who are holding the air fifteen. They're not being touched at all. But then you got somebody who's innocently taking an afternoon or a daily jog burn off some steam minding his own damn business and you got some dude. Some two men walking up thinking that they're the ones that robbed him route them wouldn't he have stuff on if he he robbed them. Wouldn't he wouldn't. He not look like just some regular jogger if he was robbing you wouldn't be able to identify from afar. No he was wearing black jeans and a black Hoodie. And this is just some guy in jogging pants and sneakers come on guys. There's no probable cause for that. What's going on in the world? So this guy I saw on this like there's like the nine one one call thing is as you said someone is breaking into it right now. The caller says no. It's all open under construction. And they ask and he's running right now there he goes right now. Okay what is he doing? He's running down the street that it goes on to show that they went back into their house and grabbed a shotgun shotgun fouled him and pulled him over or in front of him in front of them and then they said that they were attacked by him and then the guy shot him so they were attacked by the guy they were chasing with guns. Yes I'm I'm going to say there are people chasing me with guns and I don't know I'm probably going to put up with struggle as Well Bang. Just logic isn't it? They find like a whole bunch of nails and like things that he was carrying and running away with from a construction site like if he was burgling construction site when have had like stuff on him. That like you're saying like wouldn't there be proof. Wouldn't there be physical evidence of said robbery of said burglary would there be actual physical evidence. There wasn't anything on him. I'm sure and they just start flashing a shotgun in a dude's face. You're going to be in a situation where you're going to go fight or flight fighter flight fight or flight. That's that's how it is survival. What are you GONNA do? Mcmichael said artery looks like a burglar she looked like a burglar so in other words he was black. That's it that made me nervous. I I've seen I've seen pictures of these. Two guys are gunned down and they look like white trash quite. Frankly I mean they look like clansman. I mean they like a couple of Georgia. Good old boys would pull this kind of. Yeah so it's both ways. Well cured is a look like a burglar. Here it is you know. Biden is obviously getting behind this wholeheartedly in his trying to get justice for artillery and I couldn't agree more. Obviously come on bring these men to justice for crying out loud. They shot an innocent man period period. They had no reason to shoot that man no matter if they had suspicion or not the man was jogging innocently jogging doing his regular getting his workout. In and you shot him point blank in point blank range nine one one call the shows. The call taker is asking. The man who was doing it was of criminal concern. That didn't give an answer for that. He said he's a black man running down our road. Are You freaking serious? It's I mean? See that kind of stuff really breaks my heart. That gets me emotional because all these different like these headlines that are out there and like you have black men on afternoon. Jog Chase down murdered By two white men and they have other like news articles that are out. There are saying serial burglar. Cotton Act shot while attacking neighborhood. Watch course you'RE GONNA have you're GonNa have both sides right. I got I got. I got nothing to say because it's got a it's that's the reality of being a black man in this country sometimes is like this. And what sucks is that this this kid. This twenty five year old man was innocently just minding his own business and just because of the color of his skin. He gets his life taken from him. Now obviously this is not the first time something like this has happened. There's a history of these kind of things happening. And what's crazy is that there's a lot of men white men. There's a history of white men getting away with it too and I'm hoping to God at some point justices brought on behalf of the Aubrey Family. Because that is messed up in fact. I wish there was justice on a lot of things that have happened for years and years of the violence that has been brought upon a black man in this country period. But at the same time with this just this story alone it is ridiculous and we need to man. I hope they find. I hope they find probable cause which I feel like is semantics is just a bunch of to get them get them for them to get away from with this situation what they need to do they need to arrest these two men and punish them within the full extent of the law. Does it that some ridiculous? That is some really really ridiculous stuff and man I can only my heart. My heart and prayers go out to the Family. Go back through all his old stuff. Yeah Oh yeah just see see if was just hate it was. Did he kill other people while he was a police officer? You know it could just be. Yeah and just show proof of hateful motivation you know just full on because of the color of this Guy Skin Anyway. We gotta get going. It's time to wrap up the show. I'm sorry to end on such a low note but unfortunately it is that time but tomorrow we have a very big show with covering an interview with Joyce Hawkins Chris. Brown's mother is going to be a really really big one so be sure to tune in for that that's going to be used as they would say and also I will be on at seven PM Central Standard Time. So I'll beyond a chat with you guys talk about things that we've talked about today on this this morning. Show and all that and of course. I'm very excited to see you guys and talk with you guys litter on today. Of course big huge shot up to the FELLAS for being on today really means a lot. Thank you guys for being on. Thank you for having US Andy. Time guys but anyway like I said I'll be on at seven PM Central Standard Time so I will see you guys then I appreciate everybody and of course Happy Nurses Day Right Happy National Nurses Day without you guys man we would all be sick and dead right now so for all you guys out there. That are braving the front lines and putting yourself in harm's way for us to get by and live. I commend you and I have to say a huge. Thank you a huge huge. Thank you to all you anyway. Time to go be good yourselves. Be Good at one another and I'll see you guys at seven. Pm what's left you guys. All right right man. That's best of all right guys. We DIDN'T DO A. Let's talk so we'll just use the. Let's talk for tomorrow. There is no musical guest. So it's just going to be this. You know the interview alongside interview. It is twenty four minutes or something like that. Yeah so let's see what else what else. Yeah that's about the excuse me that's that's about it. Hold up so I guess that's about it. Nothing we need to be able to cover you thing and then just want to figure out like the ADS. Also I sent you the audio for Wavy Yang. I'm GonNa be extracting the the INFO on every spirits here as soon as we get done here. I'm trying to get like all the interviews like out also I'm scheduling another interview with Scotty Schwartz again. Because he just came out with a somebody so the seven o'clock show is working Or it's a better time. That's why I mean it's definitely a better time because people are able to tune in that kind of thing. I don't know the thing is I've noticed. The people were tuning in more at like eight o'clock type of thing because you know everybody's done with whatever they're doing eating sleeping fucking whatever the doing.

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Electric Bookaloo: Arya I

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Electric Bookaloo: Arya I

"Previously on electric bucaliu. I mean he's always been a little bit saucy. But i would say that. This is a saucy saucy as he gets. Welcome back to game of thrones to electric glue. I'm host anthony. This conversation is with dr robert rouse. He taught several classes on. Game of thrones at university of british columbia will be covering arias first. Pov chapter that's chapter seven. I'll also include my conversations with lisa wolf and gregory webster. Both related to argue. So it's an aria heavy podcast. This week she's my favorite will also check him with steve. Who's done his very first. Viewing of you win or you die. Episode seven first step is the short excerpt from lisa wolf fork. And then we'll cover chapter seven with professor rouse the reason why you're on my radar in the first place. Dr will fork is that i saw that utah a class at uva related. To game of thrones. And i thought we could swap class story. So so i i use this book ones for an ethics class and i love i love it but i wanna hear about your class and how it was framed and really how the students receive it. It was a wonderful class. Taught it for about five years and what we concentrated on was because it was an a truncated semester. I did this in the summer session. Which is just for week so in the first week of the class we read the first novel that was the first five days and there was a quiz every day and there was a great rich conversation of the first novel and then i paired the novel with secondary scholarly sources. We looked at about thirty episodes of the hbo occur. It was pretty great because a lot of students that they were very dedicated whether they had seen the show before. Not seen it before and so we were all pretty much watching season. Seven adds it was happening. We spent a lot of time talking about that and which was some really great enrich conversations. But i'm not a big fan of just lecturing. I much prefer to have. Discussions centered Student driven learning. You know what i mean. I really like that. I think that Fascinating an amazing really smart. But i don't wanna talk for two and a half hours straight about anything. Yes both things can be true. You can be exactly and you can talk for too long. The class that i taught for a lotta years i slept around as an adjunct professor and one of the class i was able to latch onto was this ethics class and i'd never taught before because my background is in religious studies and good for i have so many good friends and religious studies and they also do ethics but then they don't think that they're ethicists. It's funny because i have this misperception. My friends who are religious studies. Say it's misperception. I think that religious studies professors are like holy people. And they're like no. We are not reasonable reasonably became professors. Is that we do not think that we're holy goodness. Oh that's funny so you have a religious studies background what you thought made you. Well i think not. An emphasis material because episodes is usually part of philosophy. I felt somewhat. Ill equipped to pick up this class at the last minute. They offered me this class at the last minute. And it required me to dr- drive two hours to the classroom to our class. And i'm driving four hours to do this class The life of an adjunct professor. Yeah so the idea for the class was at university of pacific was that the students will choose a book. And then what they'll do is they'll interact with the book and write their own ethical framework paper based on this book. And i thought you know. They're like forty students in the class. And i thought you know what. I've never taught this class before. There is no way. I am going to read forty books. 'cause they're each going to choose a different book right so right so as much as i love to read. I'm not gonna do that. So i thought. Here's what i'm gonna do. I'm gonna choose three books. That are important to me and i'll make them three books of a much different type and none of these books are going to represent my religious upbringing at all. So whatever lecturing that. I bring to the class at least that. There's a little bit of diversity in these books. And so the three books that i chose were a j jacobs year of living biblically. Which is really i know. That book is a humorous basically a journal that the book is a journal of him. Trying to live out the bible literally as yet not shaping and no shellfish. Yes exactly so. That was one option. Another option was the autobiography of malcolm x. Alex and then. Of course i chose a game of thrones and gosh that is so funny. So how'd three adults work together. My good joan. And and and i think that the students i didn't really know what i was doing but i knew those are important books for me and so i would be able to interact with them and so the students got to choose one of these books. And and of course you know they. A lot of the students chose a game of thrones because there was a a series out and so. That's how i use that book. I never taught the class again and i only did that because i was asked to. But at the last minute i thought hey i gotta choose three books that i love and so that's why i did it. I wanna i wanna ask you a question. And i don't think you're prepared for it so if you want to avoid the question you can okay of all of the characters and all of these books who is the character that your friends and family think you are but then the second question is deep down inside the character that you know who. You really have affinity with this one character. That is interesting. That is really a great question. I like it and you know. I am not super prepare for because the question has to do with. How do people. It's kind of one of those memes. That say what my friends think. I do. I really do exact. That's it it's really perfect. And i only have like a hundred and sixty seven named characters to choose from so I i don't know. I really feel an affinity. I feel like my friends and family. Might of me as sam okay. I think that that just because this is someone whose life who's been able to change his life through books and through literacy and through reading and through research. I think that sam was like the patriots say of college professors everywhere. Yeah he's a yeah. Books are like a salvation for sam. They really are. They really are similar. And i think their salvation for him in a way that they are not for tyrian. Lancaster coup is often seen as like you know. A very bookish often known for his literacy. But i think that tyrians wealth and social position make this a lot more options for him for ramp throughout the series book. Save him they save him from a cruel father until they stop saving him when he comes of age. They give him a position as the new maistre later on. You know the to serve the night's watch in a way that Permanent and important. And he's a repository for a lot of knowledge particularly in a culture where stories and oral histories are critical. yes and so he knows a lot of these stories legends. He's the one that's able to distinguish between a dead body. That's fresh versus one. That's old and the book. Say this i read it in a book. Read it and not only that but i love this. Actually he sort of Just escaped from crafters. Keep and he's escaped from an other. He's just killed another that's right. That's he's with gilly who is like most of the people in that culture. They're illiterate that's right and he's able to find this gateway through the wall only because he read it in a book and gilly looks at him and it's like are you a wizard. Yes are you must be you you like for her. Writing is like magic yes it is and he you know in the show. We learned that he always wanted to be a wizard. And isn't that moment. He gets to become a wizard in her eyes. I i love that part of it. Yes that's right and this is know someone who was mocked more like a nerd right. Yeah well immer coulter where being a nerd means that your father might kill you. Well i know. I now i mean it's this daca party crappy place to live So yeah so you are. So you have affinity for salmon. But what i would actually prefer people who i would like if i wanted to see the people that i admire the most in the series People that i absolutely admire the most are denarius and aria ochre Both of them. I admire as characters. I think i really liked what martin did with them. I have no idea how they turn out in the final books. Don't have those yet. So i'm just looking at the series for guidance and i think that to narrow is completely done dirty and season seven. But that's not a question for today. aria just turns out to be one hundred percent. That bitch Excuse my language. I love it a guy i love. She's my favorite. So tell me why. She's your favorite. She's my favorite. Because this is someone who's been able to navigate this system. All of these systems are arrayed against her You know unlike brands. She's not going to run a house of her own. She's not going to be a bannerman she wants to be. She would much rather be abandoned man to her brother than a lady of anybody's house And she she goes through these cultures. In a way that i think reverses these narratives of colonial dominance Not going there. As someone who want the position of mastery our dominance or west arrose and the rest of you all s. She's a she's a student. She is curious she's curious. She admits she doesn't know things. She wants to She she practices she studies. She accepts correction. She grows like all of these things and this she is also able to use her her physical body in ways. That women with the exception of brienne of tara are able to do you know like this is. This is a very grim world for women and it's a world where women are subject to sexual violence all the time And to for me to have a woman who's able to navigate around that not only reinforces the permanence of rape culture within this within the series period but it also shows that that's not a totality and i think that that gives me something to root for even if it's rare right you know martin does that. I mean he really walk. Sat knife's edge doesn't he. Because in order to me between i was just thinking about the question of rape culture. This is a much bigger question. But there's a sense in which martin wants to see if he wants to say something about feminism. He's going to have to do it first off. He's going to have to do it as this white dude writing in in the ninety in the early nineties right so you've got to have the option to be someone else but he almost has the paint. This portrait of how bleak it is in order to have someone like brienne or aria shine in the midst of that darkness. That's right and you have to be able to illustrate that. I think that brad and arias resistance to this. Culture shows how corrupt the culture is and that there are women who are able to find their way through it without destroying themselves so with out completely capitulating to a system that requires In some way their compliance requires everybody's compliance but it requires more. I believe of the female characters. And this is why i think that brienne and are such fan favorite in the same ways that someone like sansa and at least as far as at least in my reading has gotten a lot of fan contempt Until the very end Or that even surf it. Has this kind of grudging admiration Because she's learned to play the game even though she continues to be underestimated by lots of people In the series and the reason they underestimate her is because she's a woman and she knows that so well and arias really remarkable. I mean the way that they set up signs in the first place is through. Arias is yes and aria aria. Her perception of her older sister is. It's not just about contempt. It's about that. Person represents everything that i'm not good at. Yes and she's band they and rivals right. This person sounds is advancing in all of the ways that are expected of her and i cannot even though i'm a better you know i'm a better writer That doesn't help me in the way that it helps sonza that. She's socially graceful. That's right and and i think that that sort of prepares the reader to root for aryeh over and against sonza but also arya is so courageous at such a young age. Yes we almost forget that santa's thirteen years old. That's right everybody is so young. That brand has seven You know and and rob is fourteen. And i think the job is also fourteen or thirteen filling in for. They're all young. Yes and i feel like sonza like my. My impression of sonza was negative very early on probably because of those. I loved aria so much and it was because in this first book every opportunity that sohn's a has where she could either choose the courageous option or the option of self interest. I feel like she always choosing the option of self interest and here. I am forgetting that. I'm looking at this older sibling through the eyes of a much younger sibling. Exactly and you know it's a man of course signs becomes fantastically interesting character and the later books and it's interesting to use the phrase self interest versus self-preservation that's right that's exactly what it sounds like. You know who doesn't want to you know who doesn't act in their self interest. Everybody we all make decisions every single day in our self interest especially when you're thirteen years old and you're in a society that has taught you to act in certain ways right exactly and is also worth thinking about. Why is it that. When brand looks at his older brother's that's at robin at. He looks at them through admiration and through just kind of whereas when aria looks at sansa. It's through rivalry. Yes i mean. There's nothing that that sansa has that aria can have neither. Neither one of them are going to get anything right. They're both gonna get sold off. To some man that's gonna make the stark alliances stronger throughout the realm. Like what they are for. They are meant to advance the family strength right. That is what they are meant to do. And so it makes no sense in my mind for aria and sansa to be in conflict or for aria to be kind of jealous of sadza And they're not they're fighting over there not been fighting over scraps right right absolutely like nothing and now chapter seven with robert rouse dr robert rouse now. Is that how. I pronounce your name. I'm not certain about that. Yeah that's exactly right okay. I want to ask. What is your relationship to your own voice. good christians. early revealing question My relationship to moon voices problematic. I don't know about you but when you hear yourself being recorded back right. It's very hard to recognize yourself expecting replacing. You like who is that. Who the hell is the but like for me. it's even most. i like. I grew up in new zealand. So i had an accent. That is very typical of new zealander. Although my parents were british should that meant it was a little bit all from the first vice Than i lived in the uk for a long time and then now lives in canada for fifteen years. So i don't really place myself when i hear my accent anymore. Yeah you're a little hybrid. I am very much like i remember. The first trip i detected to new zealand in two thousand and one. I left in ninety nine for graphical and i went back in our physio. The physio was like awesome which you uk from and this wasn't australian physio new zealand asking be worked out of the cab. I was like i was born here. But you know the voice the voice. The voice just adapts to where you are. Yeah you're sort of at the mercy of your context right. Yeah very much. Like i'm from all sorts of places. My wife is from. Toronto lived in europe for long-term sa- both of the find. Everybody sounds weird. All right so i would like to do is. I'd like to do a quick synopsis of the chapter that recovering. We're looking at arias first. Pointy chapter which is chapter seven. Yes so we meet aria and sonza and jane pool sefton. More dane beth castle and marcella lancaster and they are practicing the quote unquote womanly arts. But are no good at them and so her stitches a crooked she. She's not quite connecting with the other girls in the room. in fact they're talking about how handsome joffrey is. Or you know. Maybe maybe he's not so handsome in arias point of view then she gets chided by septum ordained. Her stitches aren't quite perfect. And she leaves she she bolts. She leaves the room and she finds john snow and ghost overlooking the yard. Where people are starring. She wants to be at the boys. The boys are playing at swords. And she's much more comfortable over there. She has a very interesting exchange with john about the roles of girls and bastards. Then she goes back to her room to find her mother and septum ordain waiting for her ominously. And that's the chapter on that show and you wouldn't think that there was a lot going on in it besides a few notable conversations but but there's a lot of interesting details about these characters that i find fascinating and i'll admit right now. Arias my favorite character. And so i'm always gonna find the aria chapters fascinating. But i'm curious robert. You're an expert on medieval literature. What in this chapter jumps out to you i. I'm curious to hear how you reading it. Yeah so two. Different approaches have festive the price of the literary scholar. That's looking for themes looking for woods and as pointed out the immediate word. that comes into place needlepoint. This is seen about needlepoint and about needlepoint will become as it were and what i mean by that. Is you have to juxtapose saints. You have the the scene of the women and then you have the scene of the man and this is doing a number of things in terms of both construction of that that concept of needlepoint as work and different kinds of work. But it's also as a medieval immediately. Draws you to the concept of john did work which is very present in the middle ages. But it's still printing today in lots of different ways there kinds of work that are associated with men and women in different societies at different points in time and here. We have a really a really clear distinction. Being made between the needlepoint. The private chain did work of the women in little enclosed indoor area earlier working away on the socially acceptable hats work this is the public arena with a man a preparing for their Warfare and killing so the movement between those two places is is really important and the two characters that perform that that movement are are very telling we have isaiah who is kind of has a bodily destiny not to be in the women's world but to be in the world yet even at the start or it talks about the fact that she has a hand. The hands of the blacksmith cheese. Only greg has a bodily destiny to to be part of that on the world and then the figure of who again is perfectly poised as an observer because he's overlooking part of can't be puddle as he points out yet this performance of public masculinity right. He has to watch from the shadows literally. So i i think two things going on one. You've got like the comparison contrast between women's work which is private which is inside which is very much an insider outsider. Yeah the public world of man and reputation same time. That's that's sort of shown to us through these two different spices and one of the other things i did. Was i work on spatial theory law and the fact that you have the small enclosed space which women this big public space. It connects with a way in which social has raised in britain. Over the years the way in which we've gone from the big public narratives to thinking about how social history with domestic spaces. Yeah it's it's as you say it's a very short chapter. It's very compact chapter soul putting into play certain key ideas and causing them. We get the the the echo of needle needlepoint. We have one point. He had john sang. You couldn't even lift along. So and of course what does he do. He has a needle produce to her. That's radiator and book and so needlepoint becomes kind of ongoing redefine concept of women's work. I wanna read a little passage here. That i think plays into this theme so this is john an aria discussing the coat of arms on joffrey all right so look at the arms on his surco john suggested. Are you looked. An ornate shield had been embroidered on the prince's padded circuit node out. The needlework was exquisite. Arms were divided down the middle on one side. Was the crown stag of the royal house on the other. The line of lancaster lennon's are proud. John observes you'd think the royal schedule would be sufficient but now he makes his mother's house equal in honor to the kings. The woman is important to our protested. john chuckled. Perhaps you should do the same thing. Little sister with totally to the stark in your arms a wolf with its fish in its mouth. She laughed. that would look silly. Besides if a girl can't fight why should she have a coat of arms. John shrugged girls. Get the arms but on the swords bastards the swords but not the arms. I did not make the rules. Little sister and i like that little bit for a number of reasons number one at ties in the embroidery theme that we are introduced at the very beginning like ede notices that jaffrey's wearing a split coat of arms and of course the sort of recalls for aria the needlework that she's supposed to be doing It drops a little hint about joffrey. True parentage right. He's maybe he's more lancaster than he is. Barack i like this for a number of reasons. We also have this sort of display of affection between the two The these these to have more in common and then there and they have difference. It's it's it's a lovely little piece. You've the dance piece that you brought up on one thing. I'd add to that to needlepoint embroidery. The joining of houses is also part of women's work right because women rights bring children into the world and so another part of it. Domestic role is producing these hybrid creatures. These hybrid bodies and you also have an is point that the women are important to it also raises a huge question of martin and feminism which has been debated and debated. Yes that's right about all the time. From different points of view you can say through figures like your maybe through philex sands of the changes and become so strong later on the narratives that martin does kind of have him approach to his work but at the same time he really really doesn't so it's it's raising this idea. And then john bats at down again and john's really interesting because know john dismisses it with. I don't make the rules. But john of does make the rose signed released. Two lights arose because all the way through the book. One of the things that john does is. John is the voice of kind of reality. He's a bit like he's a bit like you know the good natured. Version of santa clara gain in terms of those kind of truthful statements. Kinda cut through the the pageantry and sort of be a truth teller right yet he can Like at the end of this chapter he. The chapter ends with john. Saying nothing is fair. His his phrases kind of like echoed through the book But the not always right. Well okay but here. We have john are. You doesn't know it. But john knows at this point in the story that he is going to the wall. Yes and he's going to the wall primarily because he's motivated by his social placement. The wall is the only place where he's going to be able to advance and no longer be a bastard or so he thinks right And so there are very few avenues for advancement for him because of his social role. And i think that he's quietly reflecting on that when he says nothing is fair. uterit- even. So i mean it's it's different for aria than it is for john but there are some similarities there too so i guess the question is john does make the rules in other words. Here's what i would say. I would say john reinforces the rules. Yeah that's what he had to lights. And he almost reinforces the rules by by taking this beta role in all of these relationships. He's always going to remind everyone in the room that he's you know he's not a true stark. Yeah and bhai doing that. He's always going to remind people of the social hierarchy and curiously like as you say he does kind of buy into his own subjection in that way. Yes because we see other boston's in the novels really not playing by these rules. You just have to go up a little further north to the boltons right And so it's obviously possible within the society that we're reading about the bassett's to occupy important positions maybe not to inherit about right when they do but to but to still be really valuable members of their family even if they're on the outside of that john in its typical stock nece just plays it straightened says i cannot therefore i must leave yet so as you say he does kind of like reinforcement and he's bastards are a threat. Be even be even if maybe only one to five percent of these bastards actually inherit. They represent a threat to the family in a number of ways. Because what. What if they do what they do. Jump their station What would this mean for the rest of us. Yes the the bring about of instability and insecurity to another 'wise stable system. Yeah and that. That's very much how they operated in medieval culture as well like the would legal processes by which bassett's could become legitimized period. In different parts of europe at different times. And so they will always kind of as you say hanging around on the margins ending a possible alternative if a problematic one hossa bloodline is better than no bloodline if you're thinking about potential. Rulers potential shirt is So they would doubt within the in the in the middle ages interesting whites often by being given quite privileged positions to keep them happy so that they wouldn't so that would be happy with what they were given but not trying to reach. Sure yeah okay. So then ari is responsibility of course is to eventually do for. The stark family would sands as prepared to do so. She can become half of that embroidered coat of arms right. That's sort of arias destiny in a way one that she's not prepared for yet and maybe she doesn't have to confront it yet but she knows that. She's not happy with gendered expectations of herself. Yeah yeah very much. Hintze continue fleeing. Yeah yeah you're right. We never see you're in the position of having to be sanzo. She's you know she's young She's not ready. Said that end things fall apart dramatically before. Yeah yeah yeah. But but i think threat in the fear is always there and what i mean by that. Is the the very real threat to women who were not the decisive suited to then high the future and if you're nurse aristocratic woman in the real middle ages. Orange game of thrones that is your destiny as them as her mother is talked about him. Mother who does not talk much about this great sacrifice that she makes to her family and as number the other one again says eight talks about the sacrifice. He makes for the family in terms of political marriages. That was on your a reality for all aristocratic women in the sure. I wanted to ask you a question about geography. Yeah because a lot of these meetable maps will include beyond borders or beyond exploration. They'll include places like paradise. Yeah or they'll include places you know like You know here we dragons or whatever yeah Literally off the map literally off the map. So there's a sense even in the medieval period that if you traveled far enough you might find a supernatural place. You could go beyond the end of the world and and meet these fantastic creatures heaven and hell sort of creatures and martin. Does that a little bit with the wall doesn't he. he does. Yeah so there are kind of boundaries that man should not really go past the edge of civilization but the medieval periods. Interesting for that. Because you actually run into them. A lot of travel accounts for example the medieval encyclopedias. Talked about the fact. If you go beyond the caspian sea you'll stop running into the will that monsters near look at a medieval map off along the margins and inches. You have a monstrous races. Which right at classical idea which is transmitted down through the medieval period. But when you actually stop to read the One of the really interesting places with its gets tested or explored is in the narratives of the early travellers to china. So there's a couple of early travelers in the fourteenth thirteenth and fourteenth century. One cool william of rubric. And he's a monk who was sent by the pope to the court of the great comms after the mongols some make contact with western europe listening century and so he traveled all the way there in his account is very interesting. Pragmatic difficulties traveling. Thousands of miles or central asia is problematic for stop but more interesting like to someone who's interested in the history of rice and catastrophe is someone is his the the interactions between his book knowledge. And what he actually encounters so for example when he gets beyond the caspian sea his sources sort of learned sources of telling him that he should stop to count them motor pods in the other kind of raises But he doesn't it's just people and he gets there he so he's like oh they must have meant beyond the next hope beyond the next lake. Oh beyond their and so he keeps pushing the boundaries back as he travels through. And that's kind of fascinating. I thought is as the world expands the monster. Stay there origins. They always have to be there. There's another not married of cool gum. The book of john mandeville which is a collection of travel narratives that have worked into one fictitious travel narrative. And that's really interesting because that includes one story as a counter narrative to the monstrous races of a man mandeville telling wanted the oil and he's one of the most wondrous stories he ever heard was of a man who walked east watch for many years and eventually found him iraqi l'estrange world where they spoke the same language that he spoke as he's circled the world and ended up in a village two miles to the west debris stuttering and so they were aware that the will was round. I was this kind of like Bounded place at the same time. The stories told where and so for a lot of medieval writers and think it was taking these two ideas and making those two ideas were together. Yeah it's kinda fascinating. And i don't know how much well that's right and keep going. Keep finding humans but you also if you go far enough you'll find something like an elephant right and the elephant is fantastic. A monster as you could ever imagine in the first place and so there is sort of this not just a compounding of expectations but there's also like oh my gosh. This is even more amazing than i had ever imagined. It could be. Yeah and so. The world of monsters changes it does becomes the will the fascination because that's right the exotic not two different ways and again the medieval period was very good at that one of the narratives. I teach quite often is an era of to jerusalem which is which is a retelling of titus is destructive jerusalem around about fifty eight. And and that one. It's very interesting because you have the roman empire destroying jewish city of jerusalem in this kind of weird richaud active revenge the death of christ claw than other actually christian yet the anyway. Because they're gonna become christians very weird story just the vengeance of the lord narratives but in that one because it's written in the voting century divisions i teach anyone in the middle ages must've in the media middle east. Must have elephants like sarah. Samis orion is do you. Have the romans attacking jerusalem and around fifty but the jewish army look exactly like fourteenth century arabic. I'm interested in elephants and castles on that kind of stuff. So you're right. The exotic becomes a thing that's irrespective of tyne but very replicated to place. That's so interesting. It's very very tarantino in this illness. Way yeah very much so let me ask a couple questions about this chapter. Specifically we've got some notable introductions in this chapter we learn that arias wolf is named anna maria and of course Saunas wolf is lady. And there's something about the way that people name animals that reveal just a little bit about their characters right. We are introduced to sir. Roger castles magnificent white cheek whiskers also we learned that arias. Good with numbers. Yeah i. I don't know if i remembered that in other words she's not good at santa at pretty much anything that she's supposed to be good at. Yeah but she's a better horseman and she's better at keeping numbers because it another nice kind of prefiguring of the counting of the list of names. Okay tell me more about that just in the way in which that becomes such a mantra for the counting of names. Oh yes we go on. Ford's thinks it's a numbers are important to keeping lists and lists. Yeah list become crucial for her identity. Right yeah very much Ah but that's i was also thinking of that. Because specifically i think traditionally numbers have been a masculine chore right. Yeah i think so. Yeah yeah very much. I think that's something else. That's pointing out the differences between the two. And now stephen. I break from form to actually cover an episode for a fool. Twelve minutes steve. Your favourite two-headed blonde is now on the iron throne. Yeah yeah so we get to more jaffrey our job. And we have the introduction to taiwan lancaster a very arresting opening scene. That guy. I mean. I think he He knows his way around a stag. He does and it was just so matter of fact right. I mean whenever i'm lecturing my on my kids. I can't even really do the dishes at the same time. But think about the impact. It would have if you are skinning a deer. Yeah i mean it was. It was the the anything you say. Anything you say is not going to happen. That sort impact right. It's always going to be you know any story that you tell later riley. My father used to tell me when he was tearing the skin off the deer. You could be same. You take my phone charger. And all of the sudden has this import for. That's true that goes along with it. But again i mean there was so he seems so like so precise about it means for me. You know 'cause. I don't have a lot of stags skinning opportunities either as as a skinner or as just a casual observer united taxidermy for instance no not particularly Like i don't even really like to cut my own nails gleaming. So i mean i couldn't imagine going far the stein but But it seemed so mad like it seemed like here. We go again like like. Maybe it's like. I don't know maybe this is the lancaster. Equivalent of cameron from ferris buehler's data just loves that ferrari right he just loves skin. Stag can't you just give me your full attention. who do you love. You love stag. yeah. I love it. I absolutely loved that analogy. Because jamie is a little bit farris bueller. Just a tiny fairfield here a lot of entitlement with jamie and clearly a disappointment okay. I'm going to throw a ninety year. I think i think we have a theme in this episode. I wanna run it past. You and the theme is contingency plans. So drago haute clearly. Didn't plan to cross the narrow sea and he ends up deciding to do that. Ned didn't plan to play. The game of thrones. John did not plan to be a steward Sam didn't plan to forsake his gods and embraced the old gods and jordan plan to fall in love. And i think that in all of these characters. We're seeing there that we're seeing their character develop with an unexpected turn in their expectations. Where do you think this is for. The best laid plans notion. And even that opening scene taiwian asks jamie. Why did you ned live. Like why is he still alive. And jamie was something unexpected happened. I couldn't have killed him cleanly so even jamie's dealing with a situation where he had planned to go one way and it ended up going sideways on him so taking your theme adding another nuance to net is an interesting one in this Talked about his sort of his his principled stand. And how sometimes that seems to get in the way right and And even within his principal we see the first glimpse of him kinda breaking the rules right because he writes down rightful heir of my son joffrey or what is that. That is an app here. He is taking advantage of his trusted position And rather than getting into it at the end of robert's life here knowing that who knows where this is going to go He's got an opportunity and he sees a so. It's a greater good opportunity but it is different than what has principal stands would have let like. Now it's his principles are now basically put to the test right. I mean he's he's he's run out of time that and he's also willing to connive with little finger to make sure that the the right people with the right weapons get paid right and little for your calls about on it right and so and then again. That's that's the whole thing right. I mean that is. He has a plan and it starts off. I'm confronting queen. I'm going to expose. But as you know. I'm i'm a good dude. So yeah he out to reveal the truth but in order to do that he's got to do a couple of things that are somewhat underhanded. Seems to me. Yeah so you know. We've we've left off with Here is ned. He's got his guys and then he's got the official seal from robert and it didn't it didn't mean thank complete. Yeah paper shields Up ending of of orders and this is this to me is the big one right. I mean this is nets. Whole thing is sort of plane. His role is not overstepping too much. She's trying to be the best hand he could be. Well everyone's aspirations were kind of laid bare. This episode ned reveals to sursee that he plans to reveal her dirty secret and ren lee reveals his plan to to actually usurp the throne and then search makes a play to put her son on the throne and finally at the very end of the episode. We we find out why ned shouldn't have trusted little finger for one moment. Right tells and basically just as i told you. He's a little bit leg. Sergio romo when he was thrown that no doubt slider. He's like he's telling you what's coming like. There's everyone knows what's coming. Will you know the pitch is going to throw and little fingers can guess what i'm pretty underhanded. I wanna rule everything and you probably shouldn't trust me and then like twenty minutes later while i'm in on that's it right. And there's there's other motivations are revealed in the in the brothels saying this is just political. There's a dash personal in your to all right. Well let's talk about this. So i think he's a really interesting character for a number of reasons i cannot i just i. I'm trying to like this actor. I This actors just not doing it for me is it. Just isn't the perma smug it. Either bad or it's the the way he the way he's trying to. I don't know maybe it's the accent. I don't know what it is. There's just something about it. Just something about his affect. That takes me out of the story just thinking about. Maybe it's because assam in the wire or something a feels like he's in between two portrayals. Does he have to be raspy. Maybe that's it like. He's like he's he's on like a phone sex call or something all of the time you directors are constantly like like because you know you switched directors from from structure. Maybe there's just this disconnect or like. Nah i want more rasp than the other guys. Look i'm gonna do the next one and you want you to lose. The rask says to find some sort of middle ground. I feel like if he was rask. Fear or you'd be like i'm and that's how he goes and if he wasn't raspy at all like oh. I read expected to be more raspy. I really appreciate this choice of this. Lukewarm asked. yeah yeah. I'm sort of nitpicking. For the most part. I think the acting grade the writings gray. The plots are really intriguing from time to time with a cast as big as this. You're can have one person. That just doesn't do it for you anyway. Have you ever ridden a horse. I think i've gone on a pony ride at a park once. Did anyone tell you could pick any horse you want now. It was whatever was next. So you really can't relate to giora bean. Told that he can have any horse of the heard right at doesn't Trying to think of a scenario where. I've even got a pick. Anything upside of being on amazon. You once gave me a toyota corolla with purple flames on a good. That is correct. That was quite a gift that was kind of equivalent to drago giving jura his best horse. You gave me a car with purple flowers on the hood. Now that was that was her person corolla. I absolutely appreciate the end. I feel like the ponytail. You wearing as you gave it to me was equal or better to that drug. Yeah i mean that was it was. It was a faux ponytail. A phony tale. If you will now. I know how you feel about just generally about ponytails. I'm curious if you have any feelings about drugs. Ponytail and beard ponytail. Dragos is in a unique position to pull that off. That's very diplomatic view. Yeah i mean. I probably because i i find myself even though not only is he on my television and this particular episode is many years old. I'm still somewhat nervous that he could do something to me if i were to insult them. Anyway Okay well it was aquaman. So there's that have you seen. I saw the first twenty minutes. That's about as far as i got. And i thought i don't think so. Yeah i got to a point. Where i'm like the odds of this getting the degree of better. It's going to need to get free to justify the remainder of this viewing it just didn't i couldn't calculated now i was actually. I was not expecting to be good. 'cause it's oklahoma but i heard from a couple of people it's actually not that bad and i'm i'm i'm into superhero movies But oh my goodness i. It was a. It was as bad as i would have thought it would have been but i had the same thing where people were like. No you should give it a shot. It's fun and i'm like maybe i mean look. Here's the thing. There are times. When i have diarrhea that i enjoy it. Not like to the point. Where i'm like. Oh this is the preferred thinning. It's more like I expected this to be way worse and And i would say that. That's probably how i would. Maybe walk out of that. Like if i was if i had already paid to go to the theater for example when i decided to sit through it and go okay whether moments of that were when it finally was over with my code so bad yeah well So general feeling about the season one at this point It's it's continuing to to be effective in its ability to to get me and i mean that's a lot. I'm impressed with how many. I'm trying to think of other series not where. There's this many subplots that i have watched and still been able to for the most part follow. I haven't charted it out but it seems like there's there's probably twenty characters. And i feel like i care about about fifteen of them i would so i i mean my i wanna lay this on you. All right i been waiting to lay this on you but i think this first season may be among the best. I seasons of television of any show ever gotcha and you know there. I you put it up against other no breaking bad or whatever and this is you know. This is my jam. You've got in my wheelhouse here. So i'm not going to be completely unbiased. But that's my sense of it. And of course i would never wanted to build you up for it. 'cause there are a lot of pony tails you've got my my overall review. Yeah it's pretty impressive. I mean it was Impressive how again how complicated. It should be. And how. I'm to follow along all right. Well i am happy. I'm happy with with the ground covered. Excellent support for this podcast. Count from cdw and dell technologies betsy. Twg we get migrating agency to a hyper converged. Infrastructure is challenging switching calf. 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Just how fucked planet earth now anyway get episode and our full coverage of same early wednesday morning and don't forget each sunday night on twitch dot tv slash bald move will be hosting a live. Watch party for this week. Show come watch expanse as well. As classic trek episodes with us each sunday nights starting at eight pm eastern only on twitch dot tv slash bald. Move professor of psychology. Dr gregory webster. Let's start with aria. She's almost everyone's you know either favorite or maybe top five favorite characters in part because she's got such an interesting story arc and she's a point of view character and she's i think it's interesting to read because she's definitely bucking the stereotype trope of this maiden girl who's supposed to be in terms of stereotypes more like santa right but she's not and she you know she's kind wants to do her own thing. She's a little bit frustrated with their gender role. I think Just trying to kind of find out who she is. She's stuck in the social situation where she's not able to fully express who she wants to be right and received. Ned kind of doesn't really have a handle on who she is or what. She thinks she wants to be this point. So here's my question for you. But i think that knowing where she ends up. I get the sense that there's a certain duality. Maybe not even duality but almost multi. There's almost multiple sides to her so much so that she has to grasp onto various different identities varying identities in order to explore who she is or who she wants to be some wondering how you read that. What do we do with all of our use different names and all the different things that she's trying on for size. Yeah well. I think one of the major themes of the entire series is identity. And what that means to be yourself to project an image onto no other people to be seen a certain way to simply change your daft and change your self identity. In order to survive in such a frightening world in aria more than probably most characters has been through a lot. We all her trajectory throughout the entire series. She's been forced into a lot of very difficult situations. Enter main goal for the most part is survival. moon. She's had to change her identity constantly. And i think she's got to the point now where she's had so many identities that mutability in her identities almost part of her identity and way in fact. We're we leave off with her. She's an actress now. Essentially she's an actress slash assassin. So you know in part of a an actor is to be able to portray always different characters so her identity is almost this changeling in a way. That's just to mimic all these other different characters. And she's trying to use it to our advantage to live and be revenge end now for this week's bird's eye view for this week's bird's eye view i'd like to talk about the symbolism of the number seven and callan's first chapter we are introduced to the concept of a sept that being a place of worship. We also meet septa more dane in arias. Pov chapter thus we have the not so subtle suggestion that the number seven is going to be symbolically important for whatever. Religion martin is building at this point now. Martin has claimed that the faith of the seven is loosely based on roman catholicism or at least what he remembers of it from his youth but martin is also said that he never creates a one to one correspondence with this in mind. I would like to suggest that the faith of the seven is based on roman religion more. Broadly underscoring the roman part of roman catholic. And this can be seen in the importance of the number seven. So i'm going to give you four examples of for different systems of worship. That came under the umbrella of the roman empire. And i'd like to show how each of them may have contributed in some way to the symbolism of seven as we meet it in martin's world i that's point out that rome was a city with seven prominent hills in fact some ancient texts will simply refer to rome as the city was seven hills and the ancient world. We might expect to meet a shrine or some monument to aditi on each hill generally speaking. But here's why. I think it's important specifically for these roman hills in a world of ice and fire. Martin has pointed to the faith of the seven as being a product of the animals and the animals believed that they're seven deities. Were seven real. People that once existed and their patriarch. You gore of the hill was a real guy so in short we could say that. The faith of the seven is an extension of hill people ideology. So it's just not where the i think that romans the city of seven hills but maybe we find their first clue even preceding roman religion. We have to remember at this point that rome borrowed and when i say borrowed i mean plagiarized. A lot of greek religion course. The greeks borrowed a lot of their ideas from egypt. But specifically for greek ideology we see veneration of the seven wandering luminaries in the sky in other words the sun the moon mars mercury jupiter venus and saturn all represented sacred stories. And of course rome took over these deities and rename them. And so there you have it another incident where the number seven becomes sacred to roam the third possible influence would be from mithra temples that feature veneration to myth. Ross will include several altars and one temple we meet seven altars. Each dedicated to a different archetype raven has been soldier lion. persian meaning. Percy's courier of the son and the father to at least two of these have analogues with martin's of the seven soldier corresponding to warrior and father corresponding to father but as we should expect with martin's world building there is no one to one correlation so we shouldn't expect in other words to find the raven in the faith of the seven. Just so happens that there are seven altars. It's also notable that. If you are an adherence to mithra ism there are seven stages of enlightenment and then finally the fourth element of roman religion that would probably have had an impact. Maybe the most impact on martin's world is roman catholicism in which we find the doctrine of the trinity featured strongly martin has expanded from three to seven but we should also know that seven is a prominent number in the bible these sacred text of roman catholicism and we should remember that included in the seven faces of god is the maiden and this may have a direct analogue to the virgin mary so there are four possible impacts of real world roman religion upon the faith of the seven that being rome's seven hills the seven luminaries from greek religion. The seven stages of spirituality mithra ism and the archetypes used by both mithra. Ism and roman catholicism. Finally let's recall that as george costanza phonetically. Speaking seven is a beautiful name for newborn child. and that's all next time on electric bucaliu so tyrians back with shag shag.

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Brett Favre And Dick Vermeil Speak On Deshaun Watson, Watson Open To A Denver Trade, Judging Of The NFL QBs

"The report crenshaw very this. Is the sean salisbury. Show very well well. Well good morning on a thursday hope you guys will mc heavy t me and the house sean. Still here sam okay. I haven't lost it yet. Yeah he's still there There's we've mentioned on the show at the end of the day yesterday a little bit of backlash the brett farve comments right. Yeah that one to shawn watson yeah did gained a little ground and when brett talk and the who make too much money basically to to have an opinion and Not shawn's agent a couple other people around the country responded to brett farve and Kinda clapped back as we like to say. And you know the key is. I would imagine to shaun's probably not listening to much of it. And i don't think if you listen to the whole thing was yeah. There's there's no question that's what they that's what your agents for to represent you and to take care of all the stuff that you don't wanna pay attention to but you know and players always hear stuff from other players especially legends right. I deep down. I listen i disagree with brett farve on that. And i'm i'm i'm a fan of his and i liked him i do. I'm a big fan. And i think he's obviously had a hell of a career but you know he's he's an opinionated guy who's old school and even mentioned its sanity old school. I don't think brett met at as a to add. It was made out. It was like yeah. It was definitely more of a the headline the the the short amount of words like the four five words that he said about not having an opinion's what caught everybody i. The overall count was all that awful. Here's the thing if you just read the headlines you'll be like told him basically to it'd be quiet and just play you make too much money. Would we make too much money. I have an opinion and they didn't listen to the whole thing and watch it and you know we played it on our air. Yesterday is just simply him. The one thing about it is that it. It's it's kind of the way he worded i but he also said listen. I don't think he's you know i'm not saying he's wrong. He just was talking about how times have changed. And i don't think it would have mattered. If it was sean but pat mahomes or you know to tom. Brady plan i meant. Maybe 'cause brady's more old school. But i don't think it would matter to the quarterback was in the situation for brady. He might have said something different. Because brady's than ten super bowls. But and i think that you know brett talking about young and making all this money in times have changed in. Britain made a lot of money when he played relative to when his time was and i don. I don't think it was a knock on the sean. I think it was the situation now. I'm not trying to protect far. You can be as bad as you want. I don't care. I said was wrong stuff. Yeah it was. And he. And i don by him saying i'm old school. I think he kind of admitted it. You know. I think he was kind of saying this. Is you know. I'm all schools where i think. And we make a lot of money and he's never been around where somebody in the organization had say so. I don't have you know. Like i said i'm not defending him. I thought he was wrong by saying that. I don't care how much money you make. I don't think that money should determine whether you heard or not if you're frustrated now that doesn't mean demands that are out of whack or any of those things but if you're frustrated and or Disgruntled and or unhappy. Just because you make a lot of might doesn't make you happy. And so for sean. To be in the situation. Now there's gonna be some always that are gonna disagree with the sean approach and there's going to be plenty on the other side who can't stand with the of the astros as the texans have done to put him in this situation so i i you know i think i i understand. Bread saint old school niyaz. But i am but to say you know get basically get paid. Sit back and don't say a word no matter what's going on. I disagree with that. And i'm old school but i got a new school. Twist and understanding you know what goes on and how games changed salaries change the way. We approach changes. How we go about our business changes how people look at things we watched. Everything changed how we watch. Tv all of it. So i you know. I don't think brett's has anything negative. I don't think he doesn't like to shawn watson situation because it's been made such a big deal in him. The one comment about just take your money and you know and go play. I think is probably he got to know the little old school at the deal employs to the world that we live in people are in. It's it's happening. i can get white paper. Would horace make it like white man telling a black man shut up and play like it somewhere. But i don't think it there's a lot of people that are going with that angle of it. So i mean that's that's what you open yourself up to when you make these kinds of comments and i think that i think that part of it like i said his comments alone i i wouldn't have cared. Who they were to black or white. I thought his comments were wrong now. I don't know if he decided to veteran in the league. But i don't believe you need to just sit back. Shut up and cash your paycheck and play. I think that there's times it. He got to speak out for your teammates. You got to speak out on. What's right whatever that is okay. Whatever whatever the situation is but when it comes from a situation how it sounded and the look and understand in the room of old veteran white guy that's out of the league And new age meaning twenty five year old superstar football player And when it's from a white guy. And it's an african american quarterback. I would have. I can understand like what you're saying. Mc the perception of oh. It's a white. Do talk to a black guy. This has got to be. Because he's he's black right. But i don't think knowing brett as long as i've known him i would have. Never you know i would have never classified him as that that it was it was a white guy addressing an african american. I think it was just a veteran old school. Like you said. Get off my lawn situation quarterback address in another young quarterback. Who's making a lot of buddy. But i don't believe for a second for a second that Bret doesn't like shawn watson. I think the situation probably but you're so right about the perception of when you see a headline right everybody. What what brett say all okay and that would be the thought process but like i said i think that i mean we're it's now days when you see it on twitter. We're gonna make a. I mean people can make a big deal of it The church is the. Sean doesn't need to respond to He doesn't need to all the sudden show up but not talk because bret told him to. Because i think brett was wrong but i i also know that brett probably isn't making a big deal thought cycle. I didn't mean it mean. I just meant it the situation but i if you're if you're all about the you probably know the brett farve doesn't all the details of the situation as i can guarantee he doesn't well and one neither do we because we probably know more because we're in the city but we don't set the meetings that we don't know what his agent deshaun talk about or what. The texans are talking about right so from there. it's all just a perception and it's it's opinion and guess what opinion People have it and with brett's gonna give his opinion and people are gonna look at his career but his opinion on money and talking than people are going to give their opinion back. Just because you know. Brett is a star. Doesn't mean he's the only one gets to respond to this and other people are gonna respond back so i sent fortunate that no unfortunately we had mentioned it yesterday. So when you hear that phrase of the basically just be quiet and take your money and go play football. It doesn't matter who it's aimed at. It's wrong and if it's aimed in a situation where people perceive that. It's an old school white quarterback you know then it just makes it worse than people are going to run with it but brett was wrong. I mean it's his opinion. But i don't agree with his opinion. I don't think any of us do about. The deschamp shouldn't feel frustrated or be allowed to talk because he makes forty million bucks. I think that's wrong. And if you made four million bucks and you're unhappy now you may be hurt as loud as a superstar be. That's just the way it is. What is star talks. We listen more than we do than than when you were. I would talk right on a football team. Excuse me so i don't. I don't think this. I don't know how much legs this'll have. But it we've made for. Its super bowl week. You know that we are looking for comments for people to you know to make during the week and so we can probably would have been overboard with comments in a normal year this year. We're a little bit slow. Obviously and this is the first like okay. Here we go. You meet super bowl comments from ten at our normal radio. Could you imagine all the things that would have been said about the texans this week from rampant. Oh yeah it would have been. It would have been rampant in it And i don't even know you wonder. Well if it was no cove and there was a normal year. Would this sean be making appearances at the super bowl during this because of this has every low. I know that's what i'm saying. And he's always very you know. These visible their earliest show up every single year. Yeah i don't blame him for showing up to so bread had his opinion. I think a lot of us think that he was wrong on part of his opinion but he even said i'm old school so kyle was prefaced like old school. So what i'm going to say is like it's the old adobe to offend you. But i'm about to say something to offend you because it's the like i said opinion doesn't it opinion shouldn't be based on how much money a player makes opinion should be based on. He's titled how he feels or frustrated. Just as a team is when they're frustrated with player and it happens both ways so son. Fortunate turned into Into this but you know. Hopefully it'll go away and maybe bretton to sean. I'll talk at some point time. We'll go about their business and go. But i do understand if i was his agent how to defend him too and if i was friends i would have. Defended to sean. And i'm sure that brett farve people there's people out there that feel the same way not just brett farve but others. We've had people call in our show or tweet that say just you know you're making all this money to show and play but that doesn't mean you have to like what's going on and or be comfortable not saying anything if you're a player because you're not feeling it and if you're not feeling and i don't have. I don't know why we got to this thing where players aren't allowed to speak up if they're feeling if they're feeling frustrated or you know. The rams are feeling frustrated with off. And guess what they did. They broke up and they. That's exactly right. So i'm all for people. If they have something to say say it and quite frankly in a respectful manner on both sides would help. And i think we have to keep Keep that in our mind and recognize. No the room. Unless the texans who haven't known the room when it comes to how they're going to get it right in their car in a coaching staff guys and you guys seen some of the staff right love kid on it right and not a lot of experience Nepotism that's okay if you think he's a really good coach but is the best candidate that seventeen meaning has been the league long enough for you to feel all the linebackers are going to be better. Because of it is a staff. They set up a staff to build something strong for the president. The future it's worth discussing as well as guys The rockets did their first quarter. Second quarter didn't quite look like their first quarter of of The the game before right as they get beat by oklahoma city it's been their worst game and probably seven or eight games I didn't get to see a lot of it because was studying on the road. But did we'll discuss. Yeah i've been following it kinda on twitter and doing it and saw highlights and it didn't seem like it looked at the numbers this morning. It didn't seem like it was much fun to watch from the start. So we'll we'll discuss the rockets and a quick bounce back. That's okay you're gonna lose games. That's why we play a lot of them so it's sports talk seven ninety and super bowl on our minds as well as we roll through a thursday super bowl week. It's sports talk seventy. This is sports. Talk seven hundred home of the rockets mastro's and the best lineup in houston sports. No back to sean salisbury. You guys see the story about the first of all. I know Tyler and welcoming guys on a thursday super bowl week tyler you know about roscoe's chicken and waffles right lov roscoe's chicken and waffles my god yeah Did you see the guy in pasadena who went into the raw chicken and waffles. Roscoe's and pasadena Last night and he was asked by employs to put on a face covering so instead. He did what he needed to win away. He pulled out a gun and threatened to cook and stole. Some food. man wanted to eat. I'd probably go well for you. Yeah i mean you're hungry for roscoe's which is probably worth stealing food for housing ross. Who is good enough to wear. It'll be robbed and they won't take any money they just wanted to. Yeah i mean it's like this if you if you're robbing places just for the food you deserve to go to jail now the facilities that damn else is worth going stopping. You know yes i do. It's called food. you can make it at home. You'll be fine listen i. I'm glad nobody got hurt. But i mean if you're gonna put a mask on you might as well go get vitals and take a gun and get some food right now. i'm kim obviously. i'm kidding. But i'm with tyler. Food might be that good. It might be worth. it might be worth. Hopefully i wish it was a toy gun in it. He would have just been playing and got his food but chicken will roscoe's chicken waffles. May very well be worth having to tell somebody i gotta get. I gotta eat man you know what they say about hose. They all eat. They gotta eat too. I just yesterday on my way home driving down fifty. Nine guy with a mass. There was this there's like six or seven different Hbd cars off on the on the feeder road and look over and they've got a bunch of women that are definitely prostitutes because you could tell by the way they're dressed at ten something in the morning and they've got them all on the curb in handcuffs. Look he did not work hard and left. they're just looking for these were prostitutes. These weren't these weren't strippers. These were straight up hookers. So you're telling me you saw hookers but listen hair all under arrest. I if i'm the cook at roscoe's though chicken and waffles a guy wants to eat feed it meant especially if you've got a gun the guy is i don't i don't know if you see if it works. Said that he took Where he took where he took a any money. But i know he some food. Now we're going to colonel in the history of cash before you smell. It says didn't take any cash. The kitchen before walked out the door. He took syrup for his. Yeah he just wanted to eat now when your arm. That's probably not wise and it's puts a little people in danger and scares them into that things can happen so and we're not making light of the armed but we are telling you they've not been to roscoe's chicken and waffles. Don't robert with a mask on or without or gun. But if you need food going there tom that's a good food that's roscoe's the best chicken waffles in the world athletes. Original one is athletes from all over the country when they come to l. a. They stopped by roscoe's obama. Stop by their. On one of his presidential visits they have a dish named after him. One of the only places. I will wait over an hour outside just to be basically. It's it is call appear phenomenal squad. You've never been so you would know. I guarantee you. I have not i. I think roscoe's well. I can tell you this whether people think it's better not it's it's obviously both about his famous. It's about as famous places. There isn't a country roscoe's chicken and waffles. But i i listen. I can't hate the guy for one that food. But i i think he probably be a little more wise and get a little more sense that says if you want chicken and waffles at bad walk outside grabbed a mask. Put it on down while you're eating. That would help but to to He you can tell this restaurants good if he wanted that he made. Sure you got the syrup. Tyler you miss out on the syrup. There's nothing worse than with the other morning. I made pancakes waffles and eggs and everything. And i opened up the I opened up the fridge looking for the syrup. We're at syrup house. I know see. I know i had to. I had to eat a waffle with some jelly on it. It was it was not good. That could serve its berserk. It was such a disappointing man of syrup. Like come on the only thing. Worse is the sugar free syrup that claims to take to sugar for awful. It's fine now. it's disgusting well. My whole thing is if i'm gonna eat waffles. It's like drinking. I mean if i'm gonna eat waffles. We the protein once. Yeah if i'm gonna eat them. I'm gonna eat waffles. I'm probably going to have sugar in my in my syrup. I'm going i'm is. We'll go all in. That's that's what it's like. I'm not gonna eat a sugar free. Donut i mean. I'm don't i'm it but i understand why some do but i'm going. I'm going all in now. I will tell you this that. I i'll ask you guys about Your your syrup do you heat. It is in cold really like no. I've liked to call as a kid hot waffle with some butter on it and cold syrup. Oh man okay now. Having colds weird todd syrup hot butter. Hot waffles hot butter hots and when you get him if you go order breakfast and you've got like that and bacon on the side or something else with it. You have to eat the waffles. I or the pancakes. I of the french toast. I so the serve doesn't get cold and so the so the pancakes. Don't look. there's nothing dislike. Luke warm coffee lukewarm coffee. I'd read the throw open my mouth and drink. Lukewarm coffee spoke to be hot. But it's just let it sit around. It's like oh it tastes like ass. It's for me. It's like. I don't want my i gotta have while they're not soggy and while i'm eating those things i got i gotta have hot syrup on the thank because if i put cold syrup on it it cools off montana cake air my waffle and i don't want cooled off especially roscoe's with some hot chicken on that thing to come on now. That's my so you just pull it right out of the cupboard. I think a lot of people. Do i like my repeated away for a couple of seconds. Yeah that's what i'm saying. That's for me. I'm a i'm a hot syrup guy but i think a lot of people are like. Mc it's just sitting in the cupboard you just put it on. But i'd pour it in a cup. And or what i'll do is i'll just poured on top if i wanna melt butter if the if the waffles art as hot because you've been sitting around eat some other stuff or getting the meal cooked bingo but if i go in a restaurant they gotta be first. So they're hot and there's nothing worse. Yeah i lead my pancakes waffles to the last thing. That's the last thing. I that washington last thing. If there's like the pan. I'll eat the eggs alley. Hashbrowns s very cold cold yea. They're not so fast they're still hot. Then i'll eat pancake. And i'll leave the sausage or bacon for last hour. I can you know dip the syrup. Yeah yeah i just. I love it. I want the steam coming off that damn thing. I want all my food with the steam coming off but you can't unfortunately get it perfect. I wish i would have already things. Like i'm not gonna lie. I made a soup the other night for us. And i was just so i wanted hot and i'm still three days later. My roof of my mouth is still burn off. I'll deal with that. I'll deal with the losing taste. Buds on the top thing on the roof of your mouth there. We can't you know where you're feeling skin off three days later that i will drink and cold coffee or eaten cold food. I can't stand it. I gotta gotta if it's meant to be hot. I need hot or it's the to. Sometimes you know when you barbecue grill steaks and you'll take a man and you get the rest of the stuff set up and it's like okay now the stakes going to get cold. So these are you the type that'll pop in the microwave for just twenty seconds or we stick it back in the oven and i know people say put in there. Keep it warm. But i just i gotta have my fluids meant to be hot. I don't like it. Lukewarm and syrup a big hot syrup guy chicken and waffles. So don't don't get all excited tyler. Start flying back to la and wanted to go rob a dog chick roscoe's chicken and waffles. Because well they're that good okay. If ross would like to move to houston. We will gladly sponsor and while we're on that note. We need some breakfast sponsors up in here. You're begging die. You're wondering i'm just saying we will happily accommodate you when you come. That's not a bad that's just offer. That's what you're saying if you spend money illegally on the station of course. Oh yeah of course with the. We don't do you in order to get it. You gotta spend a little coin and then we'd be glad to your roscoe's chicken and waffles glad each roscoe's chicken waffles. Anytime i roll through california. Alright super bowl. Talk rockets get beat in an ugly game and you know what. We're not going to discuss today a lot. We don't need to start. Speculating over if shawn watson state are going. Because guess where he is. Today he is a houston texan and we plan on that happening so a lot of fun super bowl talk. We'll have jeff fisher at nine o'clock. They could talk about. Jared goff the situation in his situation and the nfl in the super bowl. And then steve tasker and steven b. Perfect to comment on our comments from yesterday. Our poll question do assistant coaches belong in the hall of fame if they dominated and been one of those types of assistance that we mentioned in. Why steve tasker is a special teams maven. One of the great special teams players. Been in super bowls of all time. Why well we need more special teams players in the hall of fame. Takes some guys too long. So it's kind of similar. Steve can talk because he quite frankly was a holiday. Special teams type player. He'll join us at nine thirty sports. Talk seven ninety. Our number one on thursday super bowl. Week sean salisbury show continues on seven ninety and continues in your home. Say alexa play sports. Talk seven ninety on iheartradio question crushing plant. One question is the big one. The big question of the day on the sean salisbury berry. Show the big one and we'll look at the coaching staff. They're trying to assemble here or starting to assemble here in In houston not one real quick question. Since the last couple of days is romeo coronel still on staff. Do we know. I should've had a contract. I know that they've kept some got. Call it danny barrett his coaches to coaches on on. I'm just wondering if he's still part of the staff if he's still what they're doing no news stories right. Because lovey smith obviously david color and he's also hired on his son miles smith and then the two that were bobby king and i think bobby and danny both retained bob inside linebackers coach last year. He's moving to defensive line and Miles smith whose lovey son romeo said recently. He thinks his contract was up. Figari fifteen so technically still under okay. That's why anything there you go okay. And then And bear it will continue to coach the running backs and Miles smith was with Lovey at illinois and previous to that was Defensive quality control coach For the tampa. Bay buccaneers what two thousand fourteen. Two thousand fifteen. When his dad was there and then he ended up in illinois with his father as well so not a ton of experience but football and his blood so he'll be coaching linebackers. And bobby kings gonna move to defensive line. I'm pretty sure. If i remember right and danny barrett will continue to stay and be retained as running back coach and it appears tim. Kelly is going to be the offensive as well. So they're keeping some replacing with others. David kelly continues to assemble His his staff With the houston. Texans and the you can be the judge on whether you like it or not moving forward. That's obvious david. Kelly and lovey smith have relationship love. He's been a longtime. nfl coach. Most recently obviously the head coach university illinois. so we'll see if his impact is a defensive coordinator can still be felt when he was doing that before. He became a head coach. And he's been good at it for a long time. We'll see how it We'll see how it plays out Here in houston is the staff continues to be assembled our guys fish far as our big one in poll question There are a lot of matchup situations in this game. We like now on the surface. Who's got more weapons honestly starting weapons. We've got more weapons. Not named the quarterback in the game could god. That's that's why i'm saying amount of them has to be dealt kansas city. Well well i'm talking about when you think about hardiman and main the depth of them but i running back it's tampa bay right so my question is and and we can. I had about three or four matchups. All that she goes. Choose but on the surface during the season. Going to say who's got better weapons was her. I thought well let's can't city right. But what match play for player do they do. They and i was asked an interesting question. While patrick mahomes is no doubt the mvp. I was asked a i show. I was a guest on yesterday. That if you took away a player any and we. I'm trying to reframe rephrase it different than he did. Because i don't want when people say well. Who's the most valuable player on the team. It's obviously mahomes. But okay. I'll i'll i'll. I'll rephrase it like this. Then i put you know to make it seem like what are you talking about. Of course holmes who is the second most valuable player on that team. I'd have to tamper the you can't live without kelsey. The i'd have to think kelsey seeing the answer for both of us his and when he asked me was tyreek hill. And i'm not sure. I don't agree matter of fact i did agree. And i'm going to tell you why because he diarrhea bill crazy dynamic. Yes and if you take him away now with kelsey you take away some short move. The sticks passing game can run after the catch but now if you take away tyreek hill you limit the ability to hit a home. Run down the field or short and turn it into a game. Game-breaker man i'm actually. I would actually think tyree kills the bigger weapon. That i couldn't lose and yet kelsey seven one of the great all-time he's having a has had a monster season. Of course you can't lose either but who could you. They'll afford to lose and mccain or going into the game if you took one weapon away from each not named the quarterback who would it be that you say that you'd suffer the most and it gets where i'm leaning towards the poll question because when i went on the surface when you're just kind of hanging right man who's got more welcome on the chiefs but then you start rolling around and are matching a position by position Are sure i mean. Both quarterbacks had great seasons mahomes obviously as a younger version. Receiving cores are both phenomenal. The tight ends both are game-breaker chelsea's better than now gronk in his primes. Better than kelsey in his prime because he did both batteries. A better blocker than kelsey. But kelsey now is better than g- rock is so and i think that's pretty obvious. But when godwin and evans against wins when if you want to include kelsey in that or tyreek hill and hardiman and whoever else sammy watkins on the field whoever else you consider their third best weapon so i'm not sure it's a stone cold lock that it's kansas city. That has better weapons than tampa. So who's okay. So let's put it up aside from the quarterback who's the one player you can. Ill afford to lose in the game or do you. Couldn't i don't wanna put that injury. Part i mean. Who's the one player aside from the quarterback who's the biggest impact player on both teams. So i'm saying tyreek hill that i'd put up there. So what did we put two from each day. He'll traffic see on one side. And put mike evans and Well see god when it happens or gerke gronkowski in. I think they can overcome god when i'm trying to think who would be the most and like to push down the field and rocks been big with and so it's up to you. It's your guys can choose done much in the play. No let's just go to name one not two of these four players not name the quarterback. We've got to put that in because the because we said what's the one player. Both would say quarterback a who catches in the playoffs. Yeah he's been more of a which i hate to use the phrase Decoy because i don't believe in it but he's been he hasn't hasn't gronk when he's the biggest threat on their team in the super bowl because but i have a hunch that he's come up a really set in this game camera. Braid has more catch eleven catches through three playoff games from them. So it's gotta be of the the four which not named the quarterback who's the most important a player for these two teams on offense It'd be either hiller kelsey or godwin evans. And so i gotta tell ya. It's it's i kills going to win the award. You're gonna get a lot you guys. Maybe right you're going to get a lot to lean on kelsey. I just the ability. I'm looking from a defensive coordinator standpoint. And i sure as hell wouldn't want if you told me he'll wasn't playing the way you would defend them. Although mahomes still can make things happen would be a little bit different. Because there are times when you're going to have to play double on both those receivers and the third is going to have to come out and make some plays in homes will find him because he's so skilled but my defensive game plan would shift a little bit. If i and i know hardiman can run. But hardman's not hill when it comes to production so they'll change it so those four not name the quarterback who's the most important offensive weapon in a game and that'll be up at sports seven ninety dot com. And i i don't know are you guys okay. And when we come back will discuss you guys okay with retaining minimum now of three coaches from the staff. That do anything for you. And even if it's tim kelly. Does it do anything for you or did you want a whole fresh clear slate. Three coaches so far. Bobby king danny barrett tim. Kelly appear to be a appear to be retained here and they're not done hiring the coaching staff. So the question is how i feel about it. I'm curious because i've always told you guys that i believe that. The assistant coaching hires in the staff is every bit as important at times more important in their relationships than it is. The head coach will discuss seven one three two one two five seven ninety. What kind of staff do you want you. Okay retaining quite a bit. Three coaches so far sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean salisbury continues on seven ninety properly bummed. They ought to cancel the rodeo. Get it they. They did not gonna get your lizotte fix. Sorry that was to be rodeo experience. But now it's gone well. liz rodeo. Two years tweeted two years to wear boots. Walk around the rodeo stuff. I c i. I'm i'm pissed off man. The man think about the coin in the last two years it vendors all those people socks yeah. That's what i'm just completely awful. Yeah the the the market stuff online last year and we bought stuff from the ones. We typically buy stuff from online so. I'm hoping they do that against. We can help them by buying. Some things tyler. You're missing out my man on a on. What is the best rodeo on the planet. It is phenomenal. It is pretty great. I just go and get hammered. The only grade food down the only thing we had back home that was probably remotely similar was the la county fair and this probably blows out of the water. It's this yeah. The fair was good. Del mar fares. Good good musical acts and stuff you know but not to this is phenomenal and sucks and the food. The cook off is worth its spectacular. So it's a bummer. And i feel donald two years to rodeos in a row for what is a huge generation generator of income. And unfortunately i remember when they said in march of last year that. Oh yeah there's going to go twenty twenty two. It's gonna affect things all the way to twenty two thousand as far as yeah. We like shirt is dude word is and here. We are heading towards march almost a year now right around a year and now they're talking about insert weren't double masks it someplace they're gonna make you double down new damn strain of it wherever that's coming from the uk. It doesn't seem like it's very good kosh so we went from none to double now they could keep it anyway. I feel bad for the folks. There were gonna make money and livelihood depends on the rodeo fulfil horrible and just for the simple fact to not being able to go and enjoy. I understand why it doesn't mean you have to like it. And i feel for those people who are two years in a row are missing out on their livelihood affected as has business after business after business and life after life after life The last year. It's just a bummer denver. Just for just for the golan sake in tyler. Next year you'll have to go hopefully by then we'll be mask free and walking around and being able to enjoy the the barbecue and and the kickoff and all the other things that go all the great musical acts and stuff at the at the rodeo. It's just it's a bummer. When i heard that i was bumped for all those in for just the entertainment part but i understand the safety part but it's still is It's kind of a bummer. That we don't the people don't get to get back to doing what they do. And enjoying it so hopefully next year right. I know it was delayed. I now they just completely canceled it so as two years in a row. Which a bummer. We'll see and twenty twenty two and hopefully the rodeo will be good to go in houston in twenty twenty two our guys. Are you big on Are you big on retaining the same staff after what you saw last year. Now i understand offensively you know now the running gear keeping danny bertie must be interviewed well or relationship or understands david colley and the you know after talking and being retained and thinks that he can impact running back position. Bobby king moved into defensive line from linebackers and the staff. That are you big on tim. Kelly is offensive coordinator or are you. Are you big on retaining guys after what you saw last year and certain guys. I think it makes sense like i understand the thought process of keeping tim kelly. I don't i'm not gonna take. I love it or hate it. I think it's just whatever. The offense obviously was better and more watchable after bill. O'brien was gonna tim. Kelly was calling the plays. I thought that they weren't very good at scoring like they needed to down in the red zone. The some of the play calling and stuff at times suck down there. But i'm fine overall with him still being here. The one that kind of bugged me live. You're talking about retaining somebody and only say this because quincy for who you had on the show a few weeks ago. He tweeted about it recently. That he thought tj was very big sean this year that they didn't even attempt to keep tj aide on the staff. He obviously is gone now. And he's got a job with the falcons like that's one that i would have talked about keeping but overall i'd prefer there to be a clean slate but i get that there's always hold right. There's always a few here not not always a lot of times. There's no hold on c. L. to go. I think when bill took over there's at least two maybe three at stayed around. I feel like it's happening every time when the texans have new coaching staff. There's always at least a couple that hang around. When i was at the house in minnesota denny took over for jerry burns. They they clean house man. They i mean. I i think the majority i the deal. I don't mind holdovers as long as they've gone through the process of interviewing and the coach loves them. I don't like holdovers when they're told you have to keep them. I don't. I don't believe in that i do listen. Tim kelly's an excellent. He was doing a job somewhere else. He was told told you have to keep him. Yes yeah like. I said and i don't have problem tim. Kelly think he's good football coach. My thing is you hired me as head coach. Why are you telling me who i got to keep. Let me go through the interview. Process is not whether you're comfortable with him. It's whether me and the quarterback and apparently the quarterbacks comfortable with him and i don't mean this disrespectful tim kelly. I think the shawn watson can make a lot of coordinators. Be comfortable and vice versa. But tim kelly did a hell of a job and i understand why you're retaining him. I just don't like it when when management tells me i have to. That should be the head coach's decision and if the head coach said i'm all in on tim. Kelly and the and the quarterback your star quarterback says yeah. That is one position that if you're going to you're to for instance. You're bringing a quarterback coach interview with aaron rodgers. If you were going to change. I would think you'd consult with the guy who's got to be with him every day. I think that's important. I do. I know we don't give the this whole thing with sean about the head coach and i do believe if i was a head coach that i would like to if i'm going and i'm going to bring a coach into patrick mahomes. Let's say it wasn't mike casca. And they replaced him. I would think that you would like mahomes to stamp is approval on the next guy. Wouldn't you not that. He'd make the higher but you'd say okay. Yeah i've done some research on him. I think this will be good bingo. I i'd like that. So i as a coordinator. I promise tim. Kelly and i don't have problem with you. Keep anybody is long as the head. Coach is the one who wants to retain them i. I'm a big big believer. And i know sometimes like when jason garrett was in dallas salary comes into it and all that or you get a guy like jerry jones who loved jason garrett when he was assistant before head coach. I get all that and tim. Kelly had a hell of a year. You'd have been a coach somewhere else but it's just i. I prefer my head coach to be the one who wants to retain them. Not somebody telling me that gates get the quarterback coach job in atlanta or other corner system. Which doesn't that tell you a little bit about where you're what you're coaching searches the to mean. If you're if you're basically doing what the texans did dictating whoever you know. It also tells me this that they did it. Validates what we think of the tax rates by the way his passing game specialist Which is an assistant. Basically coordinator quarterback just helping in the passing game which is good good for him jumped out of it and from playing to coaching. And i think that's also where the falcons employer right. So must have some background with arthur smith as well or from georgia. There you go all right. Well sportstalk seventy. We'll discuss we come back. I wanna hit on which the quarterback is going to have a better year next year carson wits. Who's making taken the next step or reinvent themselves stafford goff wentz. Darnold jameis winston. Who's got the chance to make the biggest jump next year. We'll discuss around the league. Sportstalk seven ninety schon sows ratio. Twenty twenty one silverado custom crew cab for two ninety nine a month for thirty nine months. The twenty twenty one chevy equinox. Ls buck think about a dollar. A dollar ninety nine dollar. You know what. 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Essentially got bill quarterback john time. Trent shell salisbury. Assist this sean salisbury show. Welcome into our number. Two at our number four jeff fisher longtime nfl coach and coordinator There's been in a super bowl will tee it up and talk to him As well as steve tasker been in a bunch of super bowls longtime analysts gris great special teams player. He can chime in about the feeling. These guys are going through right about now. See at times when you get into these games or you start to think okay man. That's never gonna come. And then all of a sudden it's wednesday and thursday and before you know it it's thursday headed into friday and you kick into full game mode in your mentality changes because you don't wanna burn out early in the week and then you realize man. Millions of people are about to tune in. I'd better be ready to go. Have i done enough. And we'll discuss that with them and among ourselves as well the feeling they must be going through the like in basketball and baseball while the drama is as high. If you had a bad day the next day you can play with you. Get one shot here. One four quarters sixty minutes ago. You don't get to make up for game two. We don't play seven game series in the super bowl so it's the most drama filled because you can have the best game of your life we've seen under the guise that you've timmy smith of the world or guys that you save matt. Larry brown's or two stars of their team reared their head had their biggest game their life in a game like this. You can have strikeout four times in a game one of the world series and then come back. Three home runs and beat a hero. You don't get much chance in the super bowl. So that's what even adds to the drama. It's one and done and you hope it's your best game ever on the biggest stage. Ever both these quarterbacks have seen and done it on the biggest stage and played their best games. Ever on this stage to shawn watson before. We get to what i wanted to discuss about. So many big name quarterbacks that need comeback seasons and where they're going and we haven't seen the guys get to their full destinations yet but we'll start to see and talk about who we expect to have a comeback season and or a breakout season or for some their first breakout season. And will this be a career killer or careerbuilder next year for them. but to the shawn watson. and here's what i think. I honestly believe this. Supposedly the denver broncos now are jumping into the fray. And it's that shawn watson is would would would would go to denver. There is a former houston texan. That's on that team. That has made some comments about it. And so hopefully am tyler let us know and we have that sound. But i can tell you this. I fully believe that if shawn watson wants out that enough that he's not going to limit any team if you're not limiting the jets. Why would you limit denver. I think denver makes way more sense to go play in than it does with the jets. Quicker chance to win now. They've got right If you're great football city as well And just a great city And then you get a chance to meet the guy that you are compared to or the closest comparison in patrick mahomes twice a year. And you can do that out so to me now this. I don't inside on it but to me. It's if it got to the point in this situation that the shawn watson said listen i were. We said we're it's unfixable yet. He's still got a no trade clause and there's talk the jets and the dolphins are in in the mix and those are the top two teams. I don't believe that shawn watson in my heart. If the chicago bears were in the mix and that was in dijon. it was either bears. They made the very very best offer and it was bears. or buster. Stay if he didn't wanna stay. Because i still think die still. Think they're not trading him i. I'm to stick with that. I know you believe they are until i see it. I'm stan he's here. And i don't want to get all the what ifs on this one. Today we've done it every day but in this case now that the talked at the broncos would be a team that he would go to. I don't believe he's going to limit any team if it came to that down to stay in or going to whoever and that was the only team that was making the proper push for are the proper of value for him. I think he'd approve it. I think you'd say okay. Yeah if he is if he's down with getting outta here he'll go and here is by the way kareem jackson former houston texan has some thoughts on the show. He apparently thinks he's ready to go. He's come well then. Then let's hear what cream jackson said in Be patient you'll hear the back to back to back to back home runs from cream. Jacks man honestly man. I for me i can talk to sean as much as i. I want i mean. It doesn't matter. You know what i talked about or or what i can do. It has to be something to wear out front office is you know wanted to shine. They want to make a move on that as well. So like you said out tons and tons of tweets every day You know comments everything. Instagram twitter Blom yup man. Obviously you know wanting to try to get him in denver but I mean it doesn't matter what i do. I had a couple of conversations with him. We know This winds hand that denver as a place that he's he's interested in land in so are but I mean everybody. No law that type of talent he possesses. What type of guy is so no on the basis. It'll it'll it'll be it'll be nice nice to have them you know but We'll we'll see what happens. We'll see what happens. I honestly don't know as far as the interest. I know I mean drew lock Are year to win. And we think ali to you know to a great guy. Great in the locker room. No he's He's becoming a leader. I before is he has all the tools you know so. I'm not really sure the answers. You know from our from our personnel in our staff. If the shawn watson goes anywhere they are they are automatically contenders. You know. He has pieces around him. He's is automatic. Contended you know on a meeting with him being houston you know. We're not very many pieces last year. You know He's going to give them a fighting chance every every sunday. You know regardless of the guys around him. I mean he's just especially so I mean he can turn any franchise around definitely gonna have to give up a lot knowing some key pieces probably on your team but on lean a young guy you on wherever you go. He's going to beat a franchise me. he's just especially in short time band now with them in seeing some of the things he was able to do. I still watch it from a farm. And he's just a special talent that that don't come around very often. So is this one of those things. If you wanna be a contender win now you know I mean somebody's gonna take that risk that's green jackson. Yeah you have to be careful now. Elway can't say that because he's under contract players can say they talk to him and the rest of it. Here's what you gotta be very careful about though and when we're talking how people feel about Damning and cream jackson talking about the shawn watson. He's got a quarterback on his team and you know he quickly got into. Well drew's a talented guy. Got to be careful. Because if you're the starting quarterback on a team and your player is talking about a guy who somewhere else you like. Now we all know across being denver this year. That's exactly right situation. They should probably cut him. Honestly it's he sounds like he plans on being there right now. Sounds like it but it regardless of that you gotta be very careful of how you approach those things because well you don't to. You know you got teammate. There now we all know that. If denver broncos put a piece together the was worth trading for they. You'd rather have the shawn watson than drew lock. I can say that fourth them. Okay but you gotta be careful. And i listen. I don't doubt that the shawn watson would want to be denver as well. And i don't blame him is i. Don't blame him for wanting to be in place. But i don't believe the no trade clause will affect where he goes. I think that he'd probably if he felt it. Had a buddy on a team could be convinced jets. The dolphins the denver broncos the hell the chicago bears or any number of other teams. That what you're gonna tell me now would never happen. It would never happen but if all of a sudden the colts said we're going to do it in the texans were dumb enough to trade him in the division. It's not going to happen. Let alone though the maybe not even the conference although the jets could but you know what the dolphins a lot of teams in the afc but if they wanted to hold out and let's just say it was a team like the colts that got dumped that they made such an offer. The take it that you're in. Tell me to. Sean would turn down going playing there then. Because i think he'd love to play against the texans twice a year. I think he just wants to get out of i would but i would hold. I would try to hold out if i'm gonna do it. Keep him here. Obviously but hell. I don't want him in the division. i don't want him in the conference. I don't want him on another team. So i'm hoping that the the the front office is approaching the same way but it won't like i said if elway made made a pitch and they put an unbelievable package together and it was not fixable here i don't believe shawn watson was say no going to play in denver and i think you're probably agree with me on that approaches. Well why would you hear. Its city rights. They've they've they will support the hell team. They've won super bowls. They're i know that it's not been ascribed a great town though it is. I don't think there's it's like we talked about that. You can be a star in any city. I don't think there's any. Nfl city at this point outside of houston that you'd have reservations about playing in even the jets being dumped fire. The jets had been. You'd still play their same goes for the browns. Yeah and also because of a guy like robert sala who seems to be. Everybody likes the question is how quickly can you win in new york. If you don't have pieces to put around him is good is he is so. But hopefully that won't be. That'll be a moot point and let the texans will continue to turn down calls about shawn watson because i would to all right we'll stay out next and then at the bottom of the hour we will discuss the winces. The darnold's the winstons all these quarterbacks who are trying to revitalize and or re kick start their career or have their first breakout season. Which one do we think we'll do that. And kind of the order. We talked about the order of the best ones. Let's talk about the guys that are struggling. And can they revitalized their careers. Sportstalk seventy will stick it out next. How about some really really good news. All right Even with a high unemployment. There's still a need for hundreds of thousands of it and cybersecurity professionals in the us right now and mike computer careers. Training people to help meet demand. Go to my computer career dot edu and take the free career evaluation today if you don't have any it experience or education. It's okay no problem. It's not rocket science. It's my computer career. You could start a new life as an it. Professional in as little as four months from the comfort and safety of your own home live online classes. 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We'll discuss or less Quarterbacks next year breakout seasons what you would do certain teams with their quarterbacks how could you and And how could you make it. Work didn't like the case like the carson wentz situation where you know you get ninety eight million dollars cap. It would be ninety eight million over the next four years. Doesn't look like you can trade him and we'll just breakdown which one of these guys are gonna have a breakout or violation of their career And the interesting one for me is in green bay And what you could do there with the aaron rodgers situation so we'll stick it out and discuss but let's Let's roll the stakeout. Mc start you today Dwight smith former tampa bay buccaneer. Yesterday was on a radio show down in tampa one of our heart stations. And he basically claimed that the oath three super bowl was not legitimate. Because the raiders were forced to lose because the nfl has rigged and also said that vegas decides who wins the games in the nfl. Is dwight smith smoking something. Oh it's probably deeper than that. If smoking at he needs to try a different needs to find a different brand Just stop it. okay. I know that we run across this. I quit listen. There's times you'll pick a game. And he the over unders at seventy nine in college football or just use this for example if vegas sets that and it'll be saying you'll think how can these guys sitting around and say okay. They're going to miss two extra points. It's going to get to this number. And then they'll get a two point conversion to get it back then they'll miss it another two point conversion to make it seventy nine. Let's senate there. And i'll be damned if the if they don't get eighty it's forty one thirty nine game right i. I don't know how they do in the nfl Now the guys. We should probably have the vegas guys analyzing those guys who set the lines should be doing a weekly show or a daily show because it's phenomenal. How close they get do they do. They is the editor rigged. I know we didn't just wake up one morning. Say patrick mahomes going to be this. Good so let's rigged the nfl to where they keep winning or tom brady's in his super bowl just well because he's tom brady. I'm not buying I know people missed calls and his complain about the two thousand three super bowl I i would disagree one hundred percent with him. I'm not that big conspiracy. Theorists dormi conspiracies conspiracy theorists at all. I think it's hogwash. I'm not buying it. Yeah he he he probably needs plays out and rethink it and maybe go see a doctor. Yeah certainly saddam more than a few plays sit out talking about seventeen years with two thousand and three super bowl. Why are gonna. You're you won the super bowl. Why would you go and claim that yes a. That's number one and number two is why in the world i mean. Listen i understand. Vegas comes into play and it's big and sometimes you say What's going on here. We all have that question. The nfl is not rigged I don't remember one time in my in my career when i was a star or a backup where there anybody coming up. Yeah you guys have to lose by two and a half point you guys got by by two points because we said two and a half and there's a lot of money riding on the other team now never happened and These games were played clean and the best team usually wins minus a few calls that affect a lot of times both sides with. They miss him but now he needs to that he. He probably needs to wake up and have a redo today. Okay so silly. Just silly all right. Every t- what you got so over the weekend. The chiefs had about twenty people in line for haircuts from a specific barber. Now backup center. Dan kilgore was in the barber's chair. When the barber got a result from cova saying he had tested positive now fortunately no one else has really tested positive kilgore and wide receiver demarcus robinson are on the reserve covid. Nineteen list however if tests start coming up positive sometime this week and this goes for both sides for both The chiefs anti day should the nfl consider pushing back the super bowl. Especially if it's the big name players who are affected. No absolutely not. Don't get a haircut. If that's the case wait till you're gonna have to wait to get a haircut. And no i listen now. I understand what they do. But i hate to tell you this and while the nfl we know how important it is. But i ain't moving to super bowl back because star player that that that would be so that would have that would be just so bush league. Oh well you know. One of our star receivers got it. Or you know the backups. Not as important so we're still gonna play the game but the starter is you're basically saying one guy's health is more important than the other forget. What the game that. That's what you're saying. There is a protocol in place Well okay would we. Plus if lebron james wasn't playing them now you'd plan that's right now because because he had tested positive for covid now you got planned so no when i tyler get why some people would say excuse me we gotta move back to make sure everybody on the health. Didn't colin coward suggested for the afc title game but he did so stupid. Yeah only suggests suggests somethings yeah to what we should consider moving back just so mahomes compla- now we don't make i mean i know the stars get treated a little bit different than the backups or guys that aren't as big as stars but that's that's a That's that's something we can't do so got to be smart. Follow protocol and hope that none of the star players. 'cause i don't wanna see the super without brady or mahomes or without tyree killer mike evans in it. I want to see him. But guess what. That's part and parcel to widest protocols. In place you've gotta follow it. Let's hope that both teams are full strength when it comes to that and it's not an issue going into the game so no i wouldn't. I wouldn't make extra special spot for the guys that are stars because it sends the wrong message to the rest of the team because they're all going to some are going to have a bigger hand than others but at some point in time three or four five plays even if it's a backup of matter and if he didn't do his job they lose now lay the super bowl and everybody involved because one player got covert whether he whether he was in the wrong situation or i was just unlucky. Can't do it can't do it. Mc see what else you got. The mayor of tampa bay has jokingly said that if the bucks win the super bowl they should rename the city. Tampa bay should. They do this. If tom brady brings them super bowl the answer that would be i know. Hey no here's the name a street. After him named the street next to one tampa away or whatever it is go ahead and name that if they win the super bowl. Tom brady tom. You know top of whatever you wanna call it or tom brady boulevard. That would be fine radio. Hey don't think yeah. I don't think i wanna go the rest of my life said. Hey where are you going on vacation this year. Head down to spring training of a stop in tampa bay. I'll pass. I'll pass. And i love tommy but i'll pass so yeah now i i don't think either one of you guys wanna talk of eight top. You want to call it a lutely sure you do tampa bay and it deserves a name change. Well you could change the city. It's really the city across the water. There saint saint petersburg which just needs to be changed to ask florida. At least there's water there if watson stays here and win the super bowl. Can we rename this place. Watson texas no but we can negative watson. Change the name of the stadium. We call it Nrg stadium watson field. I'm in the problem in our g. Yeah owner of the team. Yeah i'm okay. I'm okay with that. But i changing the name of a city after a quarterback or a baseball basketball player. Because he's because he's Made because we want super bowl and you know what guys. I do want to discuss this if everything was normal war with the height. B be about the super bowl. everything normal. how it'd be this feels like it'd be crazy crazy crazy one like the biggest one ever goat current goat and the goat and bruce. Dan andy reid i mean. Wouldn't we be talking. That this is one of the most. Highly publicized highest rated super bowls of all time considering it. Yeah wouldn't wouldn't we. I would we. Maybe we will as far as visual on tv. But it's just a bummer. Because you just when you're not there and we the covert and fans you just don't get to feel what would i would think would be the most incredible i mean going into it who've been a week where like we couldn't you can't get enough of it. Yeah i just wonder if there'd be an going into a super bowl which i'm trying to think of the past maybe the eighteen in Patriots patriots was a big one bullet tampa and kansas city. I'd be thinking this is one of those. This is so epic that you'd think house not a soul every sold on the world watching this. But we'll discuss as well as which quarterbacks are prime for Changeup pitch and a new revitalised career in two thousand twenty one whether they've been in the league as a starter or whether they've changed teams or whether they were good and then weren't good or whether they were still waiting for their breakout kind of like to. He's only been nine games in but what we see next year. We'll discuss quarterbacks around the league necsports sock seven. Ninety charles barkley you guys thought i put on some ways planned as usually sean borough are now back to the sean searle. Bora show. What a knucklehead guys revitalization and or breakout seasons. Yeah i know the superbowl's not over yet with all the changes. It appear to be happening in the nfl at quarterback or look like they're going to some staying some leaving. Maybe not as many are going to leave as we thought. But let's go round the league for a handful of minutes here take calls two seven one three two five seven nine. Just give our opinion regardless of where they end up. Do you expect them to turn into an. I'll give you a situation and you tell me if you believe that it can change. Let's start out west in the nfc. The major change there is obviously going to be a matthew stafford with the rams. So i will ask you guys this matthew stafford will he now revival. He's always put up numbers. Will the guy win his first playoff game avenue opportunity to get to a super bowl. Will you see a better matt stafford. Then we've even seen in the past. I'm not going to completely by all the super bowl. Type of hype. They're already getting. Like i think that they have a very good chance to get to the playoffs with him. And he'll play better. Obviously then he has in detroit as long as he's healthy because he is the captain of getting dinged up but Will you get there. I'd say yes on the playoffs. But i'm not gonna write in the. Yeah he's gonna go win. A playoff game until i see okay. What about you tyler. Matt stafford. I also agree with that to a point. I i'm not one hundred percent sir on if he can get to the super bowl but i think at a minimum he can make it to the nfc title game. He's gonna have legitimate weapons around him now. He's going to have a way better defensive he's ever had in detroit he you know all detroit need to do is put some pieces around him and they never did it now that he has those things flourish. I don't think matt stafford is going to be a super bowl winner in los angeles. I think he gives them a chance to be relevant in the playoffs again and i think for him the revived now. That doesn't mean. I don't think stafford can get there. I just think that the competition is going to be really really difficult. But i do believe they're better. I do believe that he makes them better. I do believe that They've got they're going to have more opportunity. And i think matthew stafford is gonna get finally a better taste of postseason with players and on my my first initial thought is picked him for the playoff next year. I know you'll put up number vision. It is that's the problem and it's a brutal. Listen to get to the quarterbacks you gotta get through to win a championship. Now is is brutal. But if you're stafford you've got to be as excited as any quarterback in this league right now about. This opportunity sean. Mcvay new stadium los angeles. You're close to your buddy clayton. Kershaw pitcher catchers together and high school the same. I mean childhood buddies. They can't wait to hear those stories. Just like dwight arno josh. Back a million dollars right over and over and you can have million times more. But i think that stafford put it this way stafford still team wise and even his numbers wise. There'll be a time and there'll be a time. I would bet you during next year when people say ooh stafford's in the mvp hunt now maybe for five early games. but i think stafford revitalization. He's always put up good numbers but i think he should be as excited as any quarterback in the league for what he gets to do. Go from detroit to los angeles and the team and the coach. That's been a stable coach. Yeah i is to san francisco. Jimmy garoppolo injuries two years. And he's just a year removed from this week from the super bowl as a guy who goes three of eleven in the fourth quarter. They have a lead and for three quarters of it. Quite frankly looks like he's going to be a super bowl champion and then mahomes kicked in. And unfortunately kyle shanahan and and And jimmy garoppolo. Didn't jimmy missed someplace that we're open. If he makes a few throws he had then. Then jimmy garoppolo probably wearing a super bowl ring considering that they had an opportunity or at least We're talking a little different about him now. It's okay after super bowl appearance. Are they gonna move him. Do you think jimmy garoppolo still best. Footballs in front of him. And will we see whether it's in san francisco or somewhere with new england. Will we see a revitalization of him where he gets back on the. This is the ball player. I think i think to an extent. Sure there's no way you can't write well. I would like to think that he's good enough to do it. Yeah i think he's good at. I don't think you're ever going to never won the mvp. He's ever gonna lead the league in passing yardage and i think if he comes back healthy mean. That's the biggest concern about him. He's not a great push. The ball down the field deep ball type thrower. But he's a solid good player. And and i. I actually think that no matter where he ends up. Jimmy has good football in front of him. I think he's he'll be and he'll be pumped because think about the disrespect shown after going to a super bowl a lot of his dictated by his team right or he needs. He needs players around. he's not going to be like a like a like a home. And when i say i'm not comparing but or rogers. It can carry a team for five or six weeks by himself you know. He's a guy that needs good players around him to excel. And so i think and san francisco healthy will and in new england fell eleven. They made a trait. I think jimmy garoppolo will will. He deserves more respect than he gets. And i think jimmy garoppolo still got really good football. trenton. Yeah i think as long as it's in the right spot he'll he'll do well to the to the level of how great it is. That's the i think there's there's a limit their obviously tyler. What about you. I think garoppolo may have hit his ceiling already. And i say that because i had kyle shanahan on my team when he was offense coordinator in atlanta he made matt ryan in. Mvp he took that offense super bowl he also blew it inside superbowl. But if you can't flourish. Under kyle. Shanahan i don't think you're going to do well in the nfl he i. In my opinion he's the best offensive mine in the league. And you could probably put eric in that conversation. But i think he's the best offensive mind. There is okay so you think that we've seen the best jimmy garoppolo correct. Yes okay all right. afc west. Let's start with the derek. Carr the derek carr is probably going to put it the same numbers he puts every single year. I just i don't think he's going to get like extremely you know better or lead you in a different direction. I think he's exactly what he is. And nothing's ever gonna change. I think he still has more to prove you. Gotta remember like i said yesterday he was very close to an mvp season a couple years ago until he got hurt he put up. Great numbers last year is just for whatever reason the past years the oakland defense or the vegas defense hasn't been able to hold their own down the stretch. That's nothing against car except for a couple bags here. Every every quarterback has a couple of games. He's better than a lot of people. give him credit for. Yeah i i'm with you on that i think. Whether it's with the raiders. Or somewhere else i think numbers are going to be their accuracy is going to be there. I don't think we've seen. I think there are still got me and i i'm not gonna say it's about all these scored but i i think we if we give. Derek carr the credit he deserves. Either i don't. I mean we love accuracy. He's got it. And i think a lot of it has to do with the fact that he has of one in january right guys. He doesn't win them any miss january of the year he was going to have he was having. Mvp ear. i. I think that there's a big part of people kind of well. Is the a pressure. I think the biggest thing is in mentioned this is can he handle pressure in the biggest moments. Because he's got he'll put up really good numbers so of those three that i've named so far and we'll get to drew lock here. In a second we come back from break between carr garoppolo and stafford in two thousand twenty one no matter where they are who has the best year team and individually stafford best team and best talent those guys. Obviously i will agree with that. And the only reason i say best team is because car unfortunately unfortunately plays in the same division as patrick mom's fair enough and of all this. Jimmy could be on if that team gets healthy. And he stays in san francisco. Hell they can win the division because air. When when you talk about both in kittle and fred warner. They're pretty loaded in moster and deebo samuel and brandon good players but the question is will any and there is a chance we've already seen one change teams that the other two cats. He'll be playing somewhere else. I think that I would go. Stafford i as well but i'm not so sure that i'm not so sure that we won't be looking back at the end of twenty twenty one season and say all three of these guys played better than the year before and that saints because car had a top ten year the team wise. They missed out on. the playoffs. continued talk as we roll through divisions and quarterbacks may be somewhere else or need a revitalization of their career. Were quite frankly. Just need comeback season or to get healthy. We're discussing sportstalk. Seven ninety rolls. On here. On the sean southbound chef soda weight-loss soda at home program. How you feel it's so ta is what. I'm what i'm telling you it. State of the art is what it stands for the knows that never call it. 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I know he had made a couple of comments on the dan. Patrick show. There's not a whole lot you can really do. But we'll hear from him. Meaning what are you going to say you gonna keep playing and hopefully get you get to stay where you are. And if they trade guy early in his career then you go play somewhere else and we'll get to to and what we think about him to drew lock. We go here As we're rolling through quarterbacks that you're either going to change teams that need a new kick. Start to their their game or quarterbacks that are coming off injury. The need a revitalization or quarterbacks you just played bad or that are going to get a new opportunity. So we're all and there's a lot of them and we're drew lock. We're already we're still in the west. In the afc and nfc west. We had to from the nfc west now to from the afc west car and then drew lock. What did what do you guys think about him. Overall as a player he played great in that game against the texans two years ago when he came in and against the texans unfortunately right so and boy is denver. Missed and miss peyton manning miss after miss after miss and from brock osweiler then let him go and then to pay a paxton lynch. I mean it's it's it's miss after this so the question is what are they gonna hit and we are now with drew lock. Do we know enough about him. To say it's time to move to another one or does it fair to say get everybody healthy and let let him have another year in the system and let's see so. What do you expect from drew lock. Whether he's a bronc. It's traded somewhere else. I think he's a career backup. That's just me watching him play. I i don't think there's anything all that special there. I know that he's had moments where he's look. He's okay but i just i think he's he's okay at best If i was denver. I'd be looking very very hard. I know they're one of the teams that was mentioned with stafford. I always thought that made logical sense. Like i would be if the shawn watson truly was interested in you. I'd be putting all the cards on the table. Saying i want that player because that'd be looking to upgrade so you think that as you think his starting role is just temporary. Yeah i don't. I don't when i've watched him out. Nothing's pothead god. That guys into great one day. Like i don't know he just seemed like he's an okay quarterback okay of course the standard of the nfl standards. I got you. Yeah i got you go taylor. What do you think. I also agree with that now. I don't think he's as bad as paxton lynch trevor. Siemian all the mrs at the bad. I don't think he's that bad. However i don't see him being anything more than what i guess. A good comparison would be marcus. Mariota is right now. I don't see them being any more than that. I just see him being a career backup. And there's there's nothing wrong with that. Could he turn into tannehill. Kaz tannehill was lock in miami right. It's possible i think tannehill was more like really good numbers. Though at times in my one thousand yard season he was a victim. The top top is seventh eighteen games into his career throwing for thirty nine hundred yards twenty three touchdowns eighteen picks and then turned down. Twenty three and eighteen. Not good turns up all over too much for starting quarterback. But he's still. He's still learning so you got him as a starter but not a star. Yeah just he might end up like a ryan fitzpatrick type or he's just journeyman combination of career. He skis a skilled guy maybe starter. He's a bottom five starter. He's yeah he's a to me. He's never going to be a franchise quarterback but he'll be a guy that you can put it this way. I believe in you know. He may have a good year next year. I think we're looking at a guy that quite frankly may very well be a. He teases you and hangs around the league. But you're never fully committed to your franchise quarterback. I think he's got. He's got enough game to stay in the league and to have a four thousand yard season with his receivers in the next year. Come back and say why did he throw fifteen eighteen pics. Then the next year. I mean and then the the he has to compete for the job. I don't think we put it this way if i was denver. Wouldn't be thinking. He's my quarterback for the next decade. How's that that's the way i feel and i think that that's the case. And if he gets an opportunity next year will be one of those seasons if he's in denver and they don't make a trade for somebody your draft did he will have to have a lights out season in denver or it'll be as last or they'll move on again and listen if you keep it like i said you keep trying and if you gotta move on you move on. That's just the way it is. But as a franchise. But i don't think i think the franchises kind of sitting in the middle. If you get into shawn watson type player you take him. I think they're sitting in saying well. If we don't get the guy we want. We can live with him for another year. I think that's the type of player. He is all right to the afc north then. I don't think we're i mean he's still gonna play baker mayfield's at his point to berle can expect. You'll bro to come back to me. Surgery and be great. Yeah i mean. I think he's going to be. I don't know how good that team is going to be. And that might limit some of his numbers. But i expect him to be good. I think he's i mean he was having a really good rookie season was been about. What's going to battle herbert. for you. Know the guy who was the best. You know quarterback is a rookie in the league. And you got hurt. But i expect nothing but great things from from Joe burrow in that. Run and lamar jackson. While he was the mvp still had a good season but didn't have a great season. When i say we know. He's a franchise quarterback so in that division quite frankly they've got four good one. I don't need i don't need. I'm not concerned with the future of any of baker mayfield. Had his breakout season this year. I know he played pretty good as a rookie. But i'm talking about and played. well considering rookies. He played really good for rookie. Bad season two. This year looked like a guy who was the reason why they drafted him with with that. Pick that high. He had those. And i don't think there's any doubt as a franchisee. I think all fourteen other franchise quarterback but pittsburgh steelers gotta start to think about a future. They've got to start to think. And their their futures superstar or franchise quarterback not on the roster meaning. Five years from now will not be the franchise and he is now. He'll start next year as long as he doesn't retire. I don't think he's gonna retire. So i would say that they have to look either for a young guy. This offseason rafting somebody that they really believe it. I've thought about a high pick. Not a guy you take in the second round or masonry the guy that you think is your franchise quarterback you gotta try to find him And it may not be this year but it's going to have to be soon. Ben rothlisberger goodyear for most of the year. We thought that they were the best team. He started to tail off at the end. He's still got enough game to be back starting next year and throw for four thousand yards soon. He just does any questions about the. Afc north of you guys. That actually might be the most safest fourteen. Fourteen quarterback movement guys agreed. We'll come back and discuss. We'll get to the nfc and may surprise you. What i'm going to say the did a couple of the teams in division should do one in particular with a player. I think that this may be next. Especially if he gets what he wants. Sportstalk seven ninety rolls on our number. Three next sean. Salisbury time francesa's very this. Is sean salisbury. Show you know something of a rude awakening to the business side of the business here. You are one year into your career and suddenly your team is in the midst of all of these trade rumors involving another quarterback. What is your reaction to some of the conversation that you hear that you probably cannot afford. He avoid hearing across. Nfl all got said before You know. I can control what i can control. And i'm the quarterback for the miami dolphins and really i'm just looking forward to being the best version of myself Looking at getting better this offseason You know and just helping our team win games next year Like i said. I'm trying to be A lot better from year one to year two. And i it really starts. You know now on this offseason. That's to a tongue of loa on get up this morning. I personally am not real. Sure what else he can say guys. He's exactly how coach wants you to football and play. Yeah your answer with giving in the answer it's coachspeak and it's a guy who's nine games into his starting career who is waiting for an opportunity to show his stuff and it's way too early and we'll get to him when we get to their division. It's way too early for but by any stretch of the imagination. I can't even fathom that anybody thinks any different that nine games you can tell me. What kind of player. The guy's gonna be if he was if he if he led the if he was offensive. Rookie of the year. Looks like herbert. While i see signs of brilliance and franchise quarterback. You can't tell me you know five years now herbert's gonna be as good as he is now. He may be better. But i can't judge a guy jay if we did that than josh allen. Wouldn't be in the league lead. Say oh he's going to be a journeyman after his first season and now to hell yes yes. So it's it's it's absurd hell. It's absurd and even baker mayfield. It was good as a rookie and on backwards. Almost near way did is a second year and then the third year. He stepped his game up and played really well. Were they know that. They have their franchise quarterback at least they believe it. So now we see commandment you wouldn't judge. Pass rusher after nine games. Who who judges ashra maintenance. Jj watt when he came out he had like five and a half sacks his rookie year had a good playoffs. Or i think he had like two and a half but like nobody could have ever imagined that he was gonna end up being a twenty plus sack guy on multiple occasions. And you didn't have read defensive player of the year awards. I thought i was going to be good but never ever ever ever dreamed that he that great especially after one year so we don't judge middle linebackers after nine games. We're not gonna judge hell. We don't even judge. We give kickers nine games to screwed up. We still don't put the we. I mean unless you're so bad but if we were giving you a chance we were pretty right on him. We knew that was going. Yeah but if you're a first round kicker sebastian jankowski and you would have had bad rookie season. They weren't cutting him. Okay that makes sense. You're the top two. This is a fifth pick of the draft. Let's slow our roll on whether to for something. He's going to be a great one before the season started. And we say all we've got to be special. Yeah that was the returns. We thought even though he's not overly physically impressive when it comes to like size the the measurable 's and then after nine games so we got a slow our roll on yup. He's not going to be a good player. Save it but if you could upgrade that upgrade like addition watson or someone like that of course you would have considered it the right there or would consider right now. It's a moot point because two is the starting quarterback with the miami dolphins and they are picking a high again and so we'll see what they get out of Out of district draft all right. We're in the nfc north. Now unless start in detroit with jared goff better or worse in detroit analogies kinda got peaceful mind. Will he be announcing the team because a team. It won't be better than ranch right now. Will he be better now at best. He's probably about the same. The team is worse. they are apparently going. What more run heavy. I don't think anything's going to change with him. Cut while to go run. Heavy got against a bunch of good players to go run heavy. They've never been run episode that they want to have a run heavy offense and they've literally had asked running backs for years. We were like their last rush. Thousand yard rusher was what reggie bush thousand little over one thousand yards and that that was it and matt stafford's never had the best of anything other than megatonne top-flight he's never had the best offense the best defense the best running some of these guys get a lot of those top at the same time. He said some good ones along the way. But never as you come to season said the heavy favorite to win the division and to be a super bowl. Contender so jared goff. What do you think tyler your thoughts on golf. I think he can do well in detroit. That one really depends more on the team that they put around him as opposed to his actual skill set. I mean his best weapon. is kenny. Golladay and kenny golladay is a free agent and it's probably not coming back their best running back i think adrian peterson who is a lot closer to retirement than you know. He's a free it worse. I mean he doesn't have any weapons around him. The lions align has never been overly good. So i'm not it kinda sucks kinda thrown into a bad situation. He's he seems like a nice kid and he's got good. He's got good skills he's never gone back to a super bowl he had it. He's not going back. He just not because he's not going to be the starting quarterback for a top six seven eight team. He just not and the detroit. Lions aren't to the super bowl while he's the quarterback. I wish him well. But i don't expect put it this way. I expect on the early returns at quarterback and the later over the next five years stafford's career will be better than than goths and then wins and losses and performance. Now detroit can win this thing if they turn these draft picks into making them at the right position. So i will. I will go with the fact that i want goff to do well because i root for everybody but of the guys we've mentioned i i wouldn't expect an unbelievable season although peace of mind can give you that but there's still gotta be performance. You've got to have help i'm going. I'm saying that he's gonna just they'll be a starter but it'll never be to the point. Where detroit elevates to to a. Oh my gosh. Look how great. They are with him at quarterback. I just don't believe that's going to happen to the other team at green in the division that well there's three teams let's stop. Let's let's hit minnesota real quick money. Says he can't go anywhere so he's going to be the quarterback their performance says regular season big numbers that he's not a postseason. I've told i've been telling you guys this forever. And i'll continue to say. It causes cousins winning super bowl. I don't care if he goes to san francisco and he's re reunited with kyle. Shanahan don't care if he comes to houston. Don't care if you went to new orleans is he's not he's not win a superbowl good player. I think a really good leader He he can throw it. He puts up numbers. I think the numbers a lot of it. I don't think he likes to protect them. I think he likes to protect about too much a meaning. He won't throw it away numbers wise. He'll take sacks he doesn't move well good player solid player if you want to be in eight nine and seven team and be eliminated in the first round. He'll put up numbers again next year. No matter where he is you will get numbers. Out of kirk cousins but kirk cousins have as many super bowls as us three half none. So if i'm the minnesota. Vikings put this kirk cousins. Salary wasn't what it is he'd be gone. I believe the minnesota. Vikings would move on from him. I absolutely do. And so i mean will throw for four thousand yards. If he's the quarterback in washington again worry is gonna get numbers and eighteen or fifteen picks or twelfth. Put up good numbers and you'll say man regular season tied. His career high picks wise thirteen. There you go. That's he's going to help her. In the the twenty eight thirty twenty five to thirty touchdown range the ten to fifteen pick range throw around four thousand yards and make some decisions that you're gonna say dang just quite couldn't get us over the top that's going to him at that green bay. Here's my suggestion to green bay. I would go sign. Aaron rodgers to a new contract and i understand. The cap is only a couple of million bucks a year for jordan love jordan. Love not gonna develop as the best quarterback green bay. 'cause he's not gonna play. So here's what i do. I would offer jordan. Love to like washington i would. I would trade him because in three years. They'll be another guy and you'll be back under rookie contract by the time jordan. Love plays is rookie contracts. Going to be up aaron rodgers. I if i was the green bay and jordan love may turn into i. don't none of us know l. The yen played but judging from his college career. We liked what we saw said man. This guy's got some -bility hence why they traded draft traded up and got him late in the first round. I would trade him. I would trade him somewhere that held him in the highest regard and is ready to give him a chance to compete trade him if the indianapolis colts to trade form trade him it trade him and give aaron rodgers his new deal because jordan loves not anywhere in the same real estate area code that aaron rodgers in sign into a new three or four year deal. He's playing at the highest level. He's ever played at and that's a high level. Take those guys get us a draft pick to go get him a weapon finally and try to go get another chance at the super bowl or two i would trade jordan love and see if i could milk first round pick out of or whatever you could get even though the guys and played because by the time he plays. You're not going to know if he's a great player because he's not seeing the field for three years minimum. If aaron rodgers is still there i would trade him and aaron rodgers football. He'll still play great and jordan love. If it was me jordan would be to compete for a starting job somewhere else. That needed an upgrade. And i would move on from him because he's not good but because the guy in front of him special and he's not gonna play so you're basically sitting there on a first round draft saying well three three years from now. Won't there be another guy like jordan. Love comes along. that's really good player. Because we won't know about jordan love until he go somewhere else. He's not going to beat out aaron rodgers and they're not dumb enough. I wouldn't think to get rid of aaron rodgers. i would give aaron rodgers new contract. And i would i would trade jordan love you guys real quick on your thoughts. Mc i don't know if i'd trade him yet just because he's not even the backup. Yeah the third guy. He'd better be your backup this year. I just because just to have might hold on hold onto furniture unless you could get the first round pick. You could get a first round pick and you sign register new deal. Even though he's under rookie contract to keep him around to three more years to get the first round pick former. I'd say go straight. I don't think that they get the first round picks. That's why i'm like. I mean you got the guy for a few years. I just hold onto them just to be safe and then john elway was in love with him. All then hey. Somebody's in love with them. Move him. I would keep rogers and not even think about it. I'd let him play until he's retired. Greed title real. Quick as well. I would Excuse me i would ditch love as soon as possible. And he's not gonna do anything discussed there are. You're wasting commodity right. Especially if aaron. We had one year left different story. It looks to me like aaron. Rodgers can play four more years at a high level easy. And we're looking at these other quarterbacks that have proven it and aaron rodgers pure throwers. We have in the league. I would i would i. Would i would put feelers out there. Are you interested in jordan love. Give me a high around or a first round pick and try to try to parlay that into either other picks to move up in the first round and get aaron rodgers help. That would be my number one priority. I come back. We're continuing to discuss and super bowl. Talk just saw dan. Orlovsky had clyde edwards allaire as the super bowl. Mvp well the guy's good will they feature him in the super bowl sportstalk seven ninety hour number three here on thursday. We're going to have to turn this matter over sean. Smoke more sean salisbury. On sports talk seven. Ninety warner backs quarterbacks looking for a revitalization of their career not just via trade but in their own place and we got a bunch of them. And what we would do in cities with these quarterbacks the stafford's the garoppolos jordan love aaron rodgers. The aaron rodgers things. Just simply sign him to a long term contract and give them a deal and keep him in trade jordan love in my opinion because he's never gonna see the field get an asset for a man for aaron rodgers stafford goff. We're rolling through teams players. That need a rejuvenation and or healthy and need to play better. They'll be looking like drew. Lock this year so as we continue to roll on here we are. We just finished the nfc north and the afc north to the afc south. We go speaking of our texas. We don't need watson to have a better year. Watson had a better year they just need to get players in win. He's finalize their thought process. Yup have all the teams in the league. Their revitalization needs to be much bigger. And it's bigger than the quarterback name is not bigger as far as their success. But they've got a lot of problems in desha watson's performance eight one of them. Correct right so that that's one tennessee. I would stay with style with tannehill minding he solid. The question is now without arthur smith. What's the next approach. How are they. Are they going to take care of their business. In with a loss of arthur smith and is perfect. Play calling for that system in the run pass with eric henry. We'll we'll tannehill. Continue to thrive. I think he will because he has a strong old. And we know the basis of what they're trying to do so i'm okay with tannehill tannehill in the last year and three quarters since he's been the starter. Whatever it's been. How many games last you know when he took over from reo. He's been one of our best consistent quarterbacks in the league he's been really really good. I don't think there's a problem there at all Jacksonville well the only thing you gotta do is get get yourself to train and trevor lawrence and get them started and get him some weapons and then we'll see so if he plays like he did in college while the nfl's in for for a hell of a great player indianapolis is an interesting one. I don't believe they're gonna commit to jacoby perset. I don't believe they're going to Obviously think the jacob ready yet and it comes down to this. What if now's on dan. Doc it's your show and congrats to dan who is the number one mid market show in the country Good for him to my guide but they they to me. What if he mentioned he goes. What about frank. Right carson wentz. And we're going to get the win soon but for the for the colts themselves. They're starting quarterback on the roster. I don't believe they got change. Pitching set the question is do you draft somebody the a trade somebody and are you willing. If you're the eagles to be pounded by a captive that so enormous you say. Even if i didn't like carson wentz how in the hell can i trade him and with the new coach coming over from the colts. Who knows frank reich are you thinking well we can revitalise carson wentz here in philly with a guy who knows what franks all about when wince play great under frank reich when frank reich was in philly as his quarterback coach but now is the head coach show. The revitalization has to be that position in indianapolis. Philip rivers played. Well he's now coaching high school. Football in alabama. They're going to have to have somebody feeling. This is a good team. Did the question is if it's carson wentz or whoever but the colts seat that's vacant now and they're going to have to find somebody who's ready to play. The question is who will be. So i think the The afc south pretty solid at the position. If trevor lawrence lives up to the hype the question is who will the colts get. We can evaluate season. That guy needs to have to the nfc south. Let's start with your team tyler. We'll start with you. The atlanta falcons. Whether it's matt ryan that quarterback there or somewhere else. Have we seen the best of matt ryan. I don't or as matt ryan now. Cousins put up numbers. Matt matt ryan is better than cousins. I don't think he'll ever get back to the mvp year he had. But i know he still has a lot left in the tank so as far as have we seen the best of matt ryan probably. Yes but he's a lot better than what the win loss record says okay so you actually think that matt ryan can go in and have a better year than he did this year. Oh absolutely yes. Whether it's on atlanta with arthur smith i. I know you're excited about her somewhere. I know a lot of it fell on dirt cutter. Who was the falcons offense coordinator. I personally don't like him. I think he's a terrible offense coordinator but ryan has flourished with other. Oh season. I think arthur smith is actually the perfect fit. Yeah kyle shanahan obviously is best season when he in the mvp and now with with any. It's what's sarkisian for a minute as well sorry cutter. Yeah he did and then Now with arthur smith to me this is his best play. Caller and play action mixed in and while tanna hills better movement on the bootleg matt ryan doesn't move matt ryan's probably a beer a better pure pocket even at this stage of his career. Then tannehill is so. I i think matt ryan can still put up big numbers. I don't know how much that's going to help. Atlanta at least on the urgent as far as getting themselves back into contention in the south. I expect another good season at least for matt ryan somewhere even if it's in atlanta a mc what about you. Yeah i mean. He'll put up his numbers. Whenever i don't think that the team's going to be that great so he'll get his numbers look good. I don't know where his career is going at this point other than until they get a great team around him. Yeah and well the. I'm just talking about him. Individually numbers cab like cousins. He'll put up numbers but he's a better guy in the pocket and you know what we did mess. I don't even know why that's the one we talked about the strength of the afc. I mean of the afc. North all four teams their quarterback seems to be set and all four teams in the nfc. North quarterback seems to be set with aaron rodgers. but they could make movement to viking. Situation breakout with golf with jordan. Love and we. Mitch i i. I've passed over chicago bears. That's obviously two of them. Do you expect nick. Foles and mitch. Trubisky is foles ever going to be in the state. Now that's another option. What about nick. Foles in indianapolis with frank reich main possibility right go forcibly to hold on where else other than philadelphia. That's exactly right. So there's that and then there's the mitch trubisky let's start. So does anybody think fulls is ever going to be starting quarterback in a super bowl again now now okay it. Nick foles best football behind him. Yes that one. Like if you put him back with frank reich he might be able to get back from some back right and in a good spot star. And he made with frank reich. Maybe he revitalizes his career and plays well. Who knows if in fact he got to indianapolis so we. Nick foles will be a solid. Put it this. He's good to have on your roster because he's a good dude and a good veteran who's been in big games and played well to mitch trubisky. Is he going to be tannahill. Is he going to be a guy who's who's a about six or seven teams who is mitch trubisky. And if we seen his best football yet. I think you've seen his best football. He's a huge. Do you think he's topped out already. Think he's at best a bottom tin elite starter and more realistically needs to be a backup somewhere. He will be a journeyman backup. I'm trying to remember. He'll be like chase daniel. That was a backup that. That's one of the big. What if i told you guys. He gets to the right team. That we haven't seen i i. I don't think he's ever going to be a franchise quarterback. What if i told you a little more confidence right coach little believability that mitch. Trubisky won't will never be. Oh my gosh starter. But we'll be a starter again. And at his best football he has not played. I would say. Moore's this ocean front property in arizona that you're trying to sell me. Hey i'm gonna tell you mitch. Trubisky still got better football in front of him in a different city. I believe that tranche is quarterback. Nope superstar quarterback nope where more respect than he's gotten. Yeah i think trubisky can go somewhere. And i don't know if he can even keep a starting job. And i think you're probably more more of the journeyman started probably fits better just on the perception of so far but i don't think we've seen as best football now that may mean he's a spot starter in journeyman. 'cause fits is pretty good and done it for a long time and if he can get his career he should be grateful even though as a first round pick. You're probably gonna say well. He didn't live up to the hype. Obviously but i don't think we've seen him play his best a a c plus or a b. minus just like that student in class. Not everybody's a student has the ability to be an a. Student some people's a is a b. So trubisky's a may very well be a b. and if he gets the b. minus football that would be as best football because we've seen flashes of it and games but i actually think we're i actually think trubisky can played better and i think he will play better but i don't think that means he's a guy that you say. Oh okay we saw enough. I don't think it put it this way. It's going to be somewhere between a journeyman and tannahill. he's not going to revitalize tannahill he's going to be in a position trying to revitalize it like mariota and and we'll see if that happens so i'm kind of anxious myself to see where that goes all right so we. Afc the nfc south real quick one mortar skip to carolina. Teddy bridgewater decent. But there obviously on the look. I think in fairly urgent to get joe brady and matt rule. A long term quarterback teddy is a guy that should be in league and other ten years eight years. But i don't think it's going to be as a consistent starter. I still think he'll play good solid football. But i don't think the oh while my gosh season is ahead of him and if he can't do it with joe brady that he may not be able to do it because joe's good they need personnel. He is the perfect quarterback that must have great players around him to succeed. Yeah i think that's fair. He's he is who he is. And it's not changing physically limited as well. This may be a little bit of a hot take. I don't think he's that much better than his backup. Pj walker think you may not be gifted as far as physical skills. Go he just get more experience. And what a great comeback story is easy guy to root for okay. We'll stay there new orleans saints up next 'cause tampa's in a super bowl. I don't think we have to worry about that. Cat new orleans saints next and jameis winston and then we're going to get into breaking down the super bowl and jeff fisher at nine o'clock followed by steve tasker. Both have been in this game in Unfortunately for both it was the same result and didn't win it but they Steve tasks has been in more than one and jeff fisher has coached a head coach in one when he was in tennessee sports. Talk seven ninety. Sean south where show this. Is the sean salisbury jacques. Short sean really on sports talk seven ninety one of the most intriguing thing guys mc heavy. Tear your seven three two one two five seven ninety as we try to not give you guys exhaustion from talking about as we. Well there's every station in the country has and let alone all the all of us here in town the exhaustion of what if to shawn's in pittsburgh. Afc newest talk. Is it the cream jackson talking about how and he said it earlier. And we'll We'll we'll get back to that in the nine o'clock hour about did he believes it to sean would entertain coming to denver and that wasn't apparently on the destination spot. I'm i believe this. Just my opinion. Nobody said this that. If they did moved to shawn watson i don't think that shawn watson would limit it if it was a big deal into sean walk out that bad and it was not fixable and that was the only team i think that the whoever that only team was i think the two sean if he wanted out that bad would probably approve it. My opinion maybe. I'm wrong because right now. We don't know much because well. We don't know what the quarterbacks thinking other than what everybody else's speculating. And we've done that enough and super bowls around the corner. We'll get to some of our predictions today and tomorrow. We're also breaking down revitalization of the position at the quarterback position. Excuse me guys at need a redo or need to get healthy organ. switch teams need to redo. I said matt stafford. We all think that staffers the upgrade going there. I think that you'll see that somewhere. In the first half of the season people are talking about him next year. The rams and mvp type season whether he can continue it or not. We'll see all right as we go to the south we mentioned that the saints and jameis winston's one of the most intriguing situations in the nfl. He's on a he coming off as not this past year but in tampa worry through a tra- tiny yards and a touchdown and a ton of picks he goes in backs up drew brees and they start tastes hill in the games. Drew brees is out yet. Sean payton has said this week that he is. They're they're committed to jameis winston as as is you know. There are two quarterbacks going into the season so that means and they didn't get heavy into the matt stafford talks. Indianapolis apparently did but couldn't pull it off. And now you're sitting here staring at the door and saints. This is a great situation. Because if you're a guy with a big arm and young jameis winston you've got your your your throat down the field which the saints haven't had and really two years. You've got weapons. Excuse me everywhere. you've got a great play caller. You get to play indoors you get to play in a in in. Nfl that we throw the ball like crazy. The only one thing and he's got a high football iq. He just crushes defenses with players and then turns around and crushes his own team with picks. The key. For me with jameis winston. There could be no better situation in the league. If he's the starting quarterback for him to go to on t- outside you know the kansas city chiefs for somebody who's already gotten their guy. This is as good. A situation is guy looking for a like for instance cam. Newton was looking for that big year last year to come back and be a no-brainer starter. And played great new england and become that ole. He's playing like he did when he was an. Mvp type player. That didn't happen and a lot of it is was opt outs. They don't have weapons this. There's no excuse for janus he is got if he is the guy the there could be no better place for him to revitalize his career than where he's at in new orleans anos knows the south he played in it for the early part of his career. So for me. I think he's one of the most intriguing. Now that's if the saints do commit to an believe he's the guy they don't draft somebody or go get somebody in a trade likely to shawn watson which. I don't believe it's going to happen. He's got a chance to jump up there and we're plan next year. Say look at the year this cat's avenue. So what do you guys think my. I only got one problem with him. Just don't feel the ball the other team but don't lose your guts like shot takers. But you can't take the shots stupidly. You gotta be very calculated and taken every now and then. There's a time when if you can get to the point where he has no problem. Check in the ball down. Five times in rolette drew brees but when the shots there he can make them unlike drew brees down the field the last couple of years. And that's just a fact. I think the jameis winston's got a chance that the entry he could go from. A you know mcginnis salary this year ten to twelve million dollars whatever it is for one year. Deal to be a twenty five million dollar quarterback if he hits it right next year. Yeah i'm intrigued. See what it looks like to see if he's any different. I don't know that. I necessarily think that he's going to boom there. Just because he has a propensity to turn the football over so you know maybe the year of working and being in that in that building is going to matter to him. They're still potential there. So i if i was the saints it was. I think it was still stupid or not. Give them a chance when you didn't have mel. Maybe it was part of the long game with him that they didn't want to rush anything and they're trying to really mold him how they want to. So i would. I believe in the saints and sean payton as a coastal where. I think that he might surprise me. But i wouldn't have some crazy high expectation. Excuse me title what about you. I also agree with that. I think he deserves a shot to be the starter. I i think if the saints do go that route he will be the starter if he stays he starts. I think yeah. I think the lasix surgery he had might prove to be the difference maker. I mean he was under arians. Any through thirty touchdowns yes. He threw three picks. Somebody that has lysergic. Obviously seeing far away after having it is a big deal. I don't know how i played baseball. My entire life with basically not wearing anything. I think about how much better i could have been hitting a baseball as i got older. Just by having the correct you know vision saw. Maybe you're right about the license thing. Yeah i mean. I think i think ended up being a better player than he ever wasn't tampa. He just got to get them to start. That's a and he put up huge numbers in yards tampa. The problem is he matched with huge interception numbers. And that can become a problem in sean. Payton excuse me so used to being the protecting the football while sequoia lot of points and that you start to think well high octane. Offense is that are chance. Takers like bruce. arians offense. His quarterbacks have always done a lot of picks is even brady threw more picks than he's used to thrown is the big reward but Punishment you know the the reward part of it but there's also some problems. Go with sean. Payton likes the reward but isn't used to being punished by a guy who turns the ball over to another team because he's had the guy protects the ball most accurate quarterback in the world. Okay and has been for a while and drew brees so it's a little bit of change but there's gotta be some intrigue with sean payton in this saying man alive. I haven't been able to do what i do. Stretching the field in three plus years gleese three years with drew brees even though he puts up big numbers because he's accurate and places blond guys run after the catch. And that's not been construed just physically. He's not the same now if you're in the situation with drew brees And now jameis winston. Now you've got the ability. It's just a flip flop. You gotta protect it like drew and drew just. Can't throw it like you anymore. And that's what we're we gotta find out. If that's the case and where we're jameis winston's maturity is at that position not only at that position but whereas maturity is when it comes to taking shots but no one wind when to say win and protecting the ball and getting those weapons to ball. We'll see how that works. All right sports talk seven ninety role and on one little side note. And it's on tv to tom. Brady space and facing steve spagnolo for the sixth time. He's two and three. This is probably a coordinator is giving him the most fit since he's played. Can they generate that kind of pressure without blitzing and some we will discuss jeff fisher in about fifteen miles montana state possibility interested in the job. We'll see and we'll talk super bowl with jeff fisher. And then steve tasker at nine thirty sports. Talk seven hundred. Finish up our quarterback evaluations next here as we go through the eastern divisions in the afc nfc. Sean salisbury show. Sean is the wise turn. Judge who sits on has the final. Say on all disputes. Back to the sean salisbury. Show on sports talk. Seven ninety sportstalk seven hundred. We'll get an idea. Jeff fisher feelings. What it's like to be a head coach in this game His career in what he thinks in the super bowl. And what's next for him. He's a possible Anecdote was the head coach. There decided to leave and take a coordinator job at the university of texas. So the head. Coaching job montana state. Jeff has a Play he's of avid outdoorsman. Matter of fact him. And i've talked fly fishing plenty of times before and he's got a place in montana so it fits as well as i think franklin tennessee whereas home is from his coaching day. So jeff. Fisher will join us at nine o'clock then steve tasker many times in the super bowl one of the great special teams players in nfl history. He'd been a longtime analysts not only in buffalo but nationally. Cbs and a great special teams players are mentioned will join us to talk about this super bowl in his feelings going into it because right about now you know if you've played championship games or big playoff games for those that have been in multiple super bowls even brady at ten a. Is it starts to turn. This is by an mp. Anybody that i've talked to it starts to kick in around now and then it gets real tomorrow because now curfew changes even though you're at home and for the chiefs they haven't traveled in tampa has been at home anyway. So it's not like your tits. It's odd because kansas city. Not traveling. I don't think till tomorrow or later today I think originally leisure bridie was the schedule yet. I think it is too and then the tampa bay buccaneers. Who were there in a home game. So they're living in their homes. Normally they'd both be an hotels and after deal with getting in the lobby insecurity and this is just completely changed. You imagine like how much that would suck a bucks fan to have the super bowl in your city this year. And your team makes it. And it's like not anything near what normally would be for super bowl nosy sucks. There's no question now. You're going to enjoy the hell out of it and watch it and do all that but you. Oh no doubt. No no doubt so. They're gonna allow them to have a parade if they win on the tampa bay. Lightning won the stanley cup parade. I believe through the water whatever. Yeah so we'll we'll. We'll see in the last time. Kansas city one last year. We saw the visuals of their parade. And it was pre covid at least The when we found out about covid and it was packed. And you know it was a great site to see. And i'm sure tampa bay's waiting for that as well all right. Let's roll through the east guys in the afc east first off cam. Newton zia is. He'd never never going to be an mvp again right now. A starter again. I expect the cam. If you want to be a guy who can compete and play some now. I just the the body is beat down a little bit. The inconsistencies the inconsistency with accuracy. Accuracy is always been a problem tremendous gifts big physical strong guy that intermediate like dig route comeback can flat asks rip it but the simple plays. He doesn't make enough no and the consistently. I'm talking about with his arm. i. I don't think we're ever going to see cam. Newton be dominant consistently again. I hope he gets a chance to play and prove me wrong. But i think his best balls behind him. I agree all right. Jarrett stidham what we expect from. Will he be the new england. Patriots starting quarterback. Will he get an opportunity to show and when he does. What are we going to see from him. I'm going to guess he's not. I think they'll draft a quarterback tyler your thoughts and stood them in in in Cam newton newton. I think will be gone stem. I if he was everything that bell check dottie was he would have started over newton and as far as i played less than five minutes. Total game tyrez. Just basically to kneel downs. It's hard to judge him in that team. Yeah that's what i say. But i i don't know who knows if he's actually gonna start. There's no way to ever read bella check. And he's going apparently they wanted stafford. Which maybe tells you what they're thinking. And i don't blame him in. There's people in boston who think in in hosts and people there told me during the season two different ones one being the the color commentator for the new england patriots scott. Zolak told me that. I asked him in the midseason. Who's your starting quarterback next year. He said jimmy garoppolo and this is what. Jimmy is quarterback in san francisco. So there are people there that believe and he's not the only one in that town that told me the same thing that that jimmy garoppolo still on that wishlist. And they believe that they they're gonna they're gonna work to get him back now. I don't know if that's going to be the case. 'cause james under contract and san francisco so the interesting thing about that. I mean we can't judge. Because i don't know we haven't seen in. Nfl level we heard about all the preseason players felt about him that he was a really good player then they got camps. Most of all last season they went by the draft and everything with people thinking. Okay students going to be the guy to get cam newton and then he never saw the field so the question is did bill see something that he didn't like or was it. Just the intrigued with cam. Newton said one more year in the offseason with a full offseason. Then we can. We can judge him a little bit more. We'll keep an eye on that. I'm anxious to see what kind of student we get Is he these. Got big potential and where it's going to go all right. The miami dolphins tour will roll fast with this is to be a franchise quarterback in the league. I don't think that he's going to be like a top tier guy. I'm not gonna completely write him off. Because he's coming off that injury and i need to give him a season where you poison i. I never believed that he's going to be the big time super duper star. So i think that's where. I'm staying tyler. I think he can be a franchise guy now as far as an elite talent. I'm not sold on that just yet. But i think he can definitely be a franchise player. I feel like he's just been wrongly done so far in miami not necessarily by the team but more by the fan base. How they're already ready to turn his back on their backs on him after nine games. That just doesn't make any sense to me. Solid starter wherever he is solid starter and will be the guy in the city. But i don't know if it'd be the guy or we say oh he's one of the top five or ten players. We have in the league to the jets sam darnold. Let's roll through these real quick. Before we go to break in jeff fisher sam darnold. I believe sam darnold on another team on a good team has a revitalization iskra. He's another one that's intriguing. Because if he goes to the right team. I think we're going to speak completely different hundred and eighty degrees different on how we see. Sam darnold i. Oh it's sounds like it's too fast. But i i would give him the one year with a new team if it's a good team and be like like that would determine right me that one year of the league long enough for us right for so far. I don't think he's great so so far is just guy. There's no question. Tyler real quick. He has one guy. I am willing to give a complete fresh restart with the jets. I need i think that. Now that adam cases gone that sam darnold could only coke tannehill and just flush. Yeah poorly coached there then. We'll obviously josh allen. We know to expect. Great things to me are real quick in the nfc. East will daniel jones. Be a franchise quarterback no. I'm i'm on the fence. I'm not one hundred percent. Sure to good player. I got both free like straddling. Both sides good player. I gotta see him under this system. Do it good players starter. I think will still be the starter. Washington will haskins revitalize his career. Well he's not even in washington and talking about is that he left washington that they don't have. I was gonna go through a couple of quarterbacks. He's gonna bright invited revitalized group. I don't think he's taken over finra. This burger is the future is my point. I was not a believer of him coming into the draft. I'm still not today. I don't think he will be in the league within two years. Yeah i don't think he's going to be a franchise guy and i don't know if he's going to be long for this league as well as he did. What was it last week. He signed with pittsburgh rothlisburger. Going to be a starter. They obviously still searching but as we said earlier. I don't believe their starters on their rush. Matter of fact we didn't even mention haskins because well. I don't think any of us think that he's going to be a superstar in the league. And what other teams missile. The cowboys dak prescott. I expect him to come back. From injury and play lights out and in philadelphia carson wentz revitalization is carson wentz going to be an mvp candidate the league again. No mvp no revitalizing us. If he's in philadelphia revitalize maybe a struggle. I don't know if he can handle that city right now. If he goes and gets out of that city and gets the indianapolis yes i still think carson wentz has got good football in front of him but dak prescott will prove to be the best quarterback in that division moving forward right. Jeff fisher next. He coached goodwin. steve mcnair. We'll find out what he thinks about this super bowl in his future here on sportstalk. Seven ninety sean salisbury. Show shot time. Francesa's very this is the sean salisbury. Show sportstalk seven ninety hour number four year rolling along super bowl just days away now. The countdown kicks in. And we'll get to our next guest here shortly. Try to hook up with jeff fisher longtime nfl coach and amazingly enough guys. It's been two plus decades. Since he was in his super bowl against the saint. Louis randy remember just barely kid being being so excited at the titans did not score and they were as pulling for him because he's a trojan in a longtime friend so close and i think we all remember the great steve mcnair and what a tough good football player he was add friends on the team team bruce matthews and the entire group and They came up short. But it's hard to believe it's been two decades and there's been a another place. Jeff is at an opportunity. Avid outdoorsman obviously has been a longtime coach and his great respect in the league and montana state still looking for a head coach and maybe jeff issue will be that guy got a home in montana and he'll hopefully join us shortly as i know that it's Maybe getting hired as we speak you. never know. And then steve tasker at the bottom of the hour. This super bowl. Can you imagine what the feeling is mc. Think about how you feel as a fan. Before he's world series games diehard baseball guy. Yeah that feeling of nerves you wake up and you know it's an important game right. Let's say it's too too mean when they won the world series that year that the dodgers and every game hanging on the edge it but even when you woke up that morning feeling right and imagine now you only get one of them. It's wild that that year. I felt that feeling until game. Three game. Five and then after five it was gone. Yeah i mean and you have five games to feel it. Imagine imagine the players. Because you know they're they're feeling didn't go away at game five game six. That doesn't mean you're not comfortable confident. But that matter of fact. I think it actually has to hit you in the gut. And when you're not nervous or at least the got churn in probably the emotion for the players. Isn't there but here. They are unfortunately for the players. It's not a seven game series. It's one and done longtime friend longtime nfl coach. He's played in this game and he may be coached somewhere else here shortly. We'll see jeff. Fisher joins us here on. The sean sows we show on sports. Talk seventy fish. Welcome in matt. How are we doing. I'm greg gosh what's going on war all good fish. Thank you so. Let let me start here. I remember you think about it fish. I mean you still look like. You're you're like thirty five and were stewart. The pondo at usc in los angeles. But i would ask you this. Did you remember two decades ago. It's been that long your feeling on a thursday before super bowl sunday. Yeah yeah i do. It's actually. I was reminded it was two years. They'd twenty one years ago saturn right. Yeah i do but you know it's about that was the last time where there was just one week between the championship game in the super bowl so it wasn't like we had a week to hang around a game plan and take care of you know tickets and hotels and flights and families and no. We turned right around after the championship game so we came back to nashville the plan. We had a meeting at midnight and the players were on a flight back to atlanta in the morning and so i went with the players and then we left the coaching staff behind the nashville to game plan monday and tuesday down tuesday night for installation on wednesday and then we got to practice outside on the frozen georgia tech astor so it wasn't the ideal set of circumstances. But you make you make the most of it. But i would say since you brought up thursday. I'd say saturday night was a little little different than thursday. Just you know go the nerves fish. That was your first immediate. You've been super bowls before. But his head coach the different. I always wonder what the feelings like mean like. You said you only had a week instead of two to prepare. Did you ask yourself. Did we do enough am. I did my status. did i coach my coaches. I mean was there a point time i mean. When did you kick into like. Oh my gosh. it's it's here. Hundred and fifty million people however many watch the super bowl that night on saturday night. Like how you sleep. I'm always into the psychological. When i actually really kicked in was listening was doing the anthem and i went. Whoa wait a minute here. This is different than most of the other took. So you know when fast but you know take about you know our deal as we played the rams four then similar to what's going on. I mean there was an earlier. This year contains so we had played the rams before we the beat of a national so with a short week. Look at the game plan. Got what it was good. It's not good. What are we gotta do. Well guess what. Let's do it got us here. You know let's be that team unfortunately for us back then it was. You know we got away from us for. I let it get away from us the first half and then we brought it back after halftime but But i mean you know we're planning to greatness show turns and we For some reason we were too. And that's not. What god is there at. That high was eddie. George steed converting third downs. And so we got back that second half made a great game at close ended and the rest is unfortunate history. But what amazing. It was amazing experience for me and you know the memories and things are great as pushed forward in this game. that's different it's different in that full teams and fight seven. You got you got a best ever and then you got lot of people say what might be the better than the best ever in time and so you got to experience coaches and You know you and you and you have this thing looking over your shoulder. It's hard to describe but it's all coded and that is issue and you know i. I really believe that the nfl on an amazing job to this season off getting back all the way back to the draft nfl the commissioner the players association another profession. Everybody not a game was canceled. A couple were postponed. Rescheduled pulled it off. The rest of the country needs to look and see what the nfl With respect to the cohen and And then some but the point is here. We are thursday. When you guys are locked out man. I mean you can't can't risk of contact tracing positive and then going to reschedule this thing and so it's all about it's all about business right now and and so. How do you go about a staff as teammates. And just kinda calming the nerves. Said you know getting getting guys just waiting no to that bone but now the ones that they got going for him if they didn't have to worry about families and played some tickets and passes and everything hotel room. Yup long the distraction that goes a long longtime time. Nfl coach jeff. Fisher joins us here. He's been in this game here on. The sean sows ratio on sportstalk seven. Seventy fish Defensive coordinator as well and you know that side of the ball as well as the often decide the ball. You're put in the game plan to stop this offense and kansas city. How do you do it. You're gonna one thing good about talk. System is that it's multiple and and a lot of ways. I'd say this of those really pay deep dive deep into the game no week after week when you play the new england patriots at at a time prior to this year you know. That defense changed every week. Bill with such a great job changing the defensive game show you something completely different taking away what you do best better not enough well in a lot of ways. That's where todd Todd has versatility with players imagination To scheme so he's gonna show him some things that haven't seen bottom line is if i was talking to both defenses. I would just say guys field goals or wins. You're gonna give a chunk place or kinda give up some big plays. That's the game but let's make him kicked field goal at the end of the dr not an extra point field goals are going to be with and then we'll see if we can get him into of i in twenty after a holding call or something like that it gets the ball back but You know todd is gonna go. He's gonna show together and possibly can and try to constant pressure on him and then you know keep people over the top with the big inside eliminates big play. Who's going to win jets. Who you like i. I can't go. There i go you know going through the play offs on the in the nfc cancer can be good then and get all this mess for the in the happen at the end of the game and you know feel bad for green bay. I just you know i think these are applicable. These coaches They're great staff really good organizations. You know i think indirectly. I think this is a passing of the baton from the from the tom. Brady bill belichick andy. Reid and patrick mahomes sin. So you know it's fun to watch but don't give up on on hill special as well. Taking the old man took. I'm picking the old man did august. I'm sticking with jeff fisher for a couple more minutes here longtime. Nfl head coach been in the super bowl. Joins us here on. The sean sows ratio. Jeff you've you've had to deal in a situation you know what's going on here with the shawn watson in the front office and all the things that are going on the trade talk on a franchise type player. You had vince on your team. And you had to. When there was unhappiness you had to get in there and try to settle this thing and fix it. If you sat down with the shawn watson for a half hour. What would you tell him about this. Well what would you say to him. How excited about coming back. And that's issue coming to make this public case that's just me from an outsider ryan and there's too many people talk i mean. Sit down and tell them to plan. If you wanna do offensively tell them how you need him. Point and what it takes to win. Let's remind him that you know. He wasn't a playoff year. Before and how quickly things can turn around but you know quiet the noise and sit down and have a conversation with them. They're just a lot going on there. And then my mom didn't make a whole lot of sense geico but that's just my opinion but that's not a hard conversation to have and you referenced dense. He'll then there's you know this is the world that comparison and believe me about that for a long time. Not fair to compare benchtop absolutely different. Nobody knew what went on when then since and so we get the best. Tony was rookie year playoffs. He did some good things but just didn't get. This is different. sean. Sean gets it. And and that's the thing. I think down in action. You know and they have a plan. Get into ex something really really hard time. The last you know for everybody for the country and everybody but you know for professional athletes guys are sean frustration in the covert and the everything. You know just trying to get it behind. Just sit down and have just rational conversation about it. Commits gain trust. And that's right. Yeah that's it. I mean you got when players walk in the door. Nowadays they don't trust you gotta earn their trust. And so you know you got. This is like them blocking the door again with. Even though it's the coach walking in the door he's got a earner trusted him. And so it's about how the those first few weeks and meetings and things like that. They're the most critical essential to laying the foundation. You know you've got you you having times you hear about all we got family and we want to be a family and we got a family in our lives. Room is family. You know reality is nine. Out of. Ten families are dysfunctional. It's like a functional family. You want wanna be right. It's like why don't we just sit around and talk and trade environment where people look forward to come into work and they want parked in the parking lot. They wanna run into building win or lose so they can't wait to get there after a loss. We trust the toast going to put it in perspective. We're going to move on after win. Anybody could talk the team. 'cause 'cause you you're supposed to win so i don't gamble just make it so much harder than it is said that that and that would include my opinion. These texts all right. Here's the last thing. I got about a with you but i gotta know. Are you gonna get. Are you going to be the head coach. Montana state and why that job you know. I've i've not heard from him I i'm a montana resident. And i know odd love. Yeah yeah but. I really been fortunate to do some things you know over the last few years. You know. climbed kilimanjaro at fist. All over i really. I mean twenty. Two years will kick your rear end and you know i feel great. And here's the deal. I said this yesterday there you get it to you know a professional golfer. When he leaves the tour he can still golf with a tennis player. what happened. what did the coaching. You can't coat. And i'd missed a coach in part. I love the state of montana. It doesn't mean to say that the you know they have mutual interest in me. Just i've not talked on. But and so there's a lot of rumors out there. And if i don't coast and i'm gonna i'm gonna help somebody because that's how i'm wired and that's what you know when if we don't have enough time but we just just give us a shout out to this year delta program and the foundation on your next segment because that's what this is all about you know. We're raising funds and awareness. I service dogs for for veterans. And you know that's what it's about time will tell but it's all good to hear this. Now it's hey that's the best thing in the world and we will pub reason for for the for the dogs and congrats young man. You scared to be grandpa. we'll finish. Let's do this again man. It's great to hear from you anytime anytime soon. Catch up with you too. Thanks and look forward to sunday. Thank you that's a great jeff fisher fish. Thank you very much. We'll come back long but you know it worth it. One of the great people and he's enjoying his life. Come right back. Sportstalk seven hundred. Steve tasker shortly. This is coach alderson touchdown. You've got sean salisbury. Show on sports talk. Seven nine kooks pro sports talk seven hundred will quick when kept jeff fisher long. You hear what he said about the shawn watson and i'm glad we did in on. It sounds simple. It does of communication. Excuse me and i liked his first comet where he said you give me thirty minutes to shawn watson. He'll be the he'll be excited ready to come back and play and the only reason i'd asked him about because he knew about dealing with while the situation's different he had to deal with you know he invents. There was some difficulties there and he had in while. It's the front office. Not the coach in this situation. Jeff and you know had to some deal with that situation. And he said to. Sean situations different nissan gets it and and i think that Jeff fisher would love to coach a guy like to shawn watts but he had some good comments to say about. You know it's pretty simple to get people to To communicate and it shouldn't be that tough but he did make a great point. Guys and steve task will join us in a few minutes. The great point two of that players come in initially not trusting and you know the most time we think they trust until you lose it. But now that i think about it. You always go in skeptical of. Can i trust this. Coach can trust his team. 'cause you look at the pro sports business and the first thing you think is They're always looking over their shoulder to replace you. And i and i get it looking over your shoulder. Should i say to replace you meaning stare and beyond you to somebody else so i think he's right there and i haven't heard that said much. Most of the time people are looking to get trust as opposed to they give you trust and lose it. And it's a good point because he's been a coach and it's the team that well dysfunctions everywhere It's the lesser two evils. Can you deal in dysfunction right. Yeah i mean. I don't know how you do it. I really don't feel good. Starts communicate right like you said. Communication would be key. But i don't trust the communication actually happens. Is it wrong. yeah. I i wish it was easy as what jeff said right. Don't you just let's go. let's get it together. It's called up. let's talk and hash out. Let's get going. Let's get excited again when you get to the parking lot I don't know if it's that simple. But i'd like jeff's approach i do. I mean the whole thing about this is gained. Trust earning it and communicate. And if you've got those two things with football team your way way ahead of the Everybody else if you've got the buy in obviously the trust and you communicate with your players then it then. You're headed in the right direction. That's that's the big. Then you've got a head start on everybody else. In the problem here is with a new coach. The trust factor is at a at a minimum when it comes to when it when it comes to the the When it comes to the sorry about that when it comes to the front office here and so and then you got a quarterback whose disgruntled so this is a long time and what's appears to be a marathon not a sprint approach to this and you don't have a long time to do. It seems like you do but you don't. So we'll get to steve tasker next and then we'll talk later on before we go about marty schottenheimer to and hear from dick for meal as what he said about shawn watson and how. The reaction is sports. Talk seven ninety. Steve tasker next whitney mercilus. You're listening to sean software. Real texans talk on sports seven ninety guys. The last nine super bowls a team of wounded warrior amputee taken on a team of nfl alumni flag football game of honor nationally televised prior to the super bowl to help call attention to the needs of disabled veterans however unfortunately because of covid nineteen they are not able to play their tenth straight super bowl game and will not be able to generate quite as much national awareness for the cause. But the needs of these veterans still exists and they would like to raise awareness for the need for more service dogs. They're asking for everyone listening to learn more about this this issue at sierra delta dot com that's s. i. e. r. a. delta dot com and joining us now to discuss this and the super bowl he played in a lot of these longtime nfl analyst. One of the best special teams players of all time And can comment on the feeling. He had gone into the super bowl. The great steve. Tasker joins us here. Steve welcome in. I appreciate my man. Happy new year to you. I know we can still say that because we haven't talked yet but hope things are well. Let's hit this sierra delta thing. I know you've been involved with this and it's really really impressive. I don't wanna play in that game when we can. Because i don't wanna get embarrassed by a guy who's far better than me what i did play so tell me. Tell me about this and how at tell me about this and how we can help. Yeah it's a it's a program Sierra delta and what it is it is for service members who come back into society pairs them with a canine dog. A service dog and there are different levels of dogs. There's a complete service dog. Also a life buddy program. One of the things that happens to these guys come back from the service and they miss You know during the service time if they were in particularly if they're in combat it dependent on a on a team of guys around him and they come home They're alone and that's a hard transition to make for these guys giving them a service animal puts them in a better mindframe to be more successful and make their transition back home smoother and and and it has proven to be incredibly effective way to get these guys make these guys more successful in their transition out of the service and then of course a complete service dog program where these guys do need some help. that these dogs can provide. It's a great way to be involved. this They nine years in a row. They've had flag football game. As you mentioned they're going to have a dog walk in super bowl in tampa bay saturday at nine. Am there's gonna be a huge amount of people there And you know the flag. Football game in years past has been covered by every major network. That's at the super bowl so it gets a lot of a lot of play and it's a really great cause and this year is no different except that they're doing it under kobe protocol. So it's a great cause They do a lot of good work They have some really lofty goals. Set for this year and I would encourage everybody go to sierra delta dot com to learn more about the program and how successful it has been in how successful it wants to be in the future and our military and our soldiers and our veterans and all those that deserve the the physical health of a service dog in the mental health of a service dog. They've they've quite. Frankly earned it so go in there and help any way you can. Sierra sl are a delta dot com such great respect and it's a it's phenomenal program for a phenomenal human beings and we appreciate you steve. Being a part of it all right man you played in a bunch of these What are they going. I mean it's you know games changed but the super bowl still sixty minutes. A field still one hundred yards long. What must be feeling right now. Mentally and emotionally before the game starts. What questions were you asking yourself. Three and a half days before the game steve. It's it's really interesting to think about. These guys are both the bucks. Are there in tampa bay. They're getting ready for the game. They can see kind of what's going on. Obviously nothing is going on as much as a usually is for the chiefs. This is just another day at the office of city getting ready for the game. This is completely different than the way it has been in every single super bowl before this these guys have teams are gonna show up The chiefs will show up on saturday before the game the next day like a normal regular away game so i think that in and of itself is going to be a completely different animal. Pre- particularly for the chiefs in for tom brady and these guys who have played in this game before a totally different animal. Anything they've experienced and for the guys who have not played in it. It's a huge benefit to me. Because they don't have to. The distractions are gone from what it usually is. And that i think is benefit guys who have knocked laid in this game and you mentioned the distracts being in the we had jeff fisher on before you being on the ticket business. Everybody wants your time. Is it a good thing steve. Because when you're playing your thinking okay in a non cova year. We're going to travel. You're up. it's all that you get your buddies early in the week curfew. Kicks in so. You're geared for a different cause players like routine in the normal routine during the seasons differ. But you're super bowl. Thought is different. We're going to get in. Their early isn't is this an advantage or a disadvantage for these guys that they're not getting the normal super bowl routine but they're getting their normal regular season routine. I think the big advantage for these guys. Certainly they'd miss it and they'll say i wonder what it would be like if we weren't If it wasn't covert so some of the guys who haven't experienced it. But i didn't even the guys who have experienced or saying you know it's probably better this way for the football end of it you don't have you know. Certainly all distractions are going to be there with your family and all that your family would love to be there. But you know you can't get tickets thing anyway. There's only five thousand people going to be in it Even radio row in in campus completely different We're doing stuff like this instead of actually being down there So all of that is different. I think it's i think it's an advantage. These guys can make this all about football The two week break in between has always been a plus for the teams. And i think the fact that this is going to be one that where they're going to be two weeks in kansas city and in tampa that's going to give them a chance to keep the routine normal the think about it. The bucks are in their own facility. Store the chiefs. Everything's normal as normal. It can be in europe. cova but I you know. I just think this is a much better thing for football end of it than it is anything else. Certainly we all love the pageantry and the fun and the access we get to these teams on the day a couple of days before the game but for them for the teams themselves. This is a way better scenario longtime. Nfl football player nfl analysts. Been in multiple. super bowls. steve. Tasker and i think one of the best special teams players of all time aside from being receiver joins us here on the sean sows ratio. All right steve. Take away the quarterbacks. What's the will. What offensive player is the one you can did. Who's the most important offensive player in this game. Not named the quarterbacks while i it's a good question. I think that may be the key to why the chiefs or so hard to defend the bucks The chiefs you can pick four other guys other than the quarterback. That could make a play travis. Kelsey could crush a team with you. Know he could come out and pop out a dozen catches on twelve twelve catches on twelfth targets. Fifteen catches on fifteen targets or tyreek hill. Is they saw the first matchup of this team. He cannot have two hundred yards in one. Quarter Sammy watkins who is a phenomenally. Gifted receiver who may or may not be in this game. I imagine he'll play either. He was one of the top picks in the nfl draft. Because he was. He's a four three guy who wins. phenomenal routes. Had incredible hands could be a difference maker in this game. Nicole hardman same thing clyde edwards helaire and then of course the bucks got their own roster guys who could be a nightmare matchups for this gronkowski and brady. How many times have we can do this. Gronkowski pop out of nowhere and have a game like we saw in half five years ago where he dominates. This game is full of guys. Who have proven they can be difference. Makers and the way these defenses deploy are going to. It's going to be up to those two guys who you told me not to mention. Who are they gonna find Nobody can deliver like these two guys and somebody is going to be open somewhere and it just depends on which decisions made as to. Who gets the chance to make the difference. I think this game neck. Deep in difference making players steve. Tasker joins us here. On the sean size we show sports. Talk seventy steve. If i tell you. Tom brady's jerseys clean the entire game. Will the result be yeah. That's a good one. I i would say I think it'll be a close game. Then i i i think if they can i think if his jersey's cleaned and the bucks are going to have a chance to win late. I think that she's too hard to keep off the scoreboard. to that maybe a bucks are going to be able to score enough points to win this i That's the real question. I think the bucks are going to be an attract me. Trying to keep up with the chiefs. I really do the chiefs. Have too many guys. They're going to be too prepared. The fact that these teams played early in the season gives both defensive coordinator. Real handle what they can expect. But with tom brady. You'll beat your different way. And of course the chiefs have so many weapons you just get spread too. Thin defensively If tom brady's jersey clean. I mean that's the way the bucks had find a way to win this game. Steve you played an era play with a teammate. Jim kelly watched danny in miami Montana for of you've covered manning you've watched brady and you've covered. He's still playing. We've we've seen aaron rodgers and now you look at this kid. Patrick mahomes let me ask you. Who's the best quarterback of all time and who is and is mahomes going to be in that category when he's finally done. Yeah well that's that's the real question if mahomes plays the way he has for another gosh even five years. Yeah he's going to be in that conversation but the guy the conversation right now at this point in history before this game it starts with tom. Brady right that's that's that's where the conversation begins and maybe ends as well The the fact that he put together a season like she has on a different team that we've seen and be successful with With the bucks Just you know solidifies that conversation in his favor. But we have never seen a stretch from a quarterback like we've seen from pat mahomes in three years. He's at four. Your eddie sat on the bench for one year and when he as soon as he took the keys to the car he's been a race car driver man. The guy's been phenomenal. We've never seen a stretch like this from anybody Not to start their career and if he continues at this pace We'll get into the conversation with grady. But it'll it'll be a one sided conversation by that time let's face it. He's been in three straight conference championship games and one he lost was after he was the. Mvp that season Then he was then. He was the super bowl. Mvp and now he's back to the super bowl again So if this keeps up certainly He's gonna be an pat. Mahomes is going to be in a conversation with tom. Brady pretty quickly And certainly at the current time He's running neck and neck with him. My final question. Got about a minute steve. You and i have talked many times. And i always stress how we need more special teams players in the hall of fame because they are difference makers in your one of them and i know you don't like to toot your own horn but i do for you. All the time. Assistant coaches tom. Moore's been coaching forty. One years i think about monte kiffin or guys like joe bugle. You've been around great assistance. Can i ask you why. We don't have assistant coaches in the hall of fame. They do a lot of the work. Why do we just put head coach in the hall of fame. Yeah that's an interesting question because those guys are the nuts and bolts the nfl. and there. And you sean. Yeah they the reason players feel as strongly as they do about assistant coaches and like you. And i do is because those are the guys that change our lives right. You know those are the guys that really make a difference. Those are the guys that you know you guys like you and me get choked up about. We think about guy for me. Guys like ted marchibroda guys like nick nicolau teddy. Of course he was a head coach twice. But the guy. Like nick nicolau Nobody knows that guy is outside of football. But these guy that change lisa guys. That change lives. Charlie joiners hall of fame player. He was also a phenomenal assistant coach. Lebeau who was put in as a defensive coordinator. He deserved it. No question about it. You go down the list of every franchise and go down and the guys in the league. Who changed their lives. It'll be assistant coaches not head coaches. Who did it In the current day and age in for the last thirty five years. It's been the assistant coaches who have been the the force in life changing experiences for players as you know in the locker room. So that's been. I think that's i would agree with you. You can make an enormous enormous argument for those guys. Being big part of the hall of fame agreed it sierra delta dot com to s i e r a delta dot com to help our wounded warriors as they need service dogs to help them the mental side the emotional physical side go to sierra l. dot com and help steve always a pleasure. Talk to my manager which should be a great super bowl. I wish it was different. But let's enjoy it while we can look forward to talking to you again brother. Thanks for your time. thanks. John appreciate you thank you. That's great steve tasker. Always with great opinion. We'll come back. Marty schottenheimer and dick for meal for different reasons. Nex stock seventy. This is greg vigia. You're listening to sean salisbury. On sports talk seven nine. Fuck your home of the stroz. All right guys gets a real quick primer great men in the business. I was asked yesterday how i felt about him. And i mean phenomenal coach. Aminul human phenomenal family man grinder. Hard worker pushed his players to the limit and coach to limit seventy seven years old. I think it was two thousand fourteen diagnosed with alzheimer's and has been moved into hospice. And when comes when it gets to that you keep praying and hoping for families peace and for his peace and comfort impacted. A lot of lives. Steve tasker talked about marty's and assistant head. Coach talked about assistant coaches and coaches impact. Marty was one that impacted a lot of people. One of the great coaches and great people of all time and He's in hospice now. Our best to the schottenheimer family and to one of the great human beings. I was able to do features on him when i was covering in free. Spn when he came to espn to talk to him and just over the years talk golf and he just as just a fine hard-nosed old school tough guy and battle in the fight for his life and seventy seven years old and hospice our prayers and thoughts for his family and for marty schottenheimer Did seventy seven years old To the other side and tyler you have this dick from your comments and the reaction about about Different meals comments. I think it was with keyshawn and the guys on their morning. Show dick for meal about shawn watson so tyler let me know when you have that will kick that in real quick before we close out the show all right. Let's hear what dick from meal had to say about And the reaction about Dijon watson. I'm a little disappointed to be honest with you. Because you know the enemy said he has presented coming out of college through the draft and shula's collusion part in Houston has been so positive so positive. And i don't think this approach really reflects what he has presented over the past few years. I'm disappointed you know. And i just don't think we can anybody whether it be that football team. The other thirty one teams start allowing players to step in and make decisions who runs coaches him and all these kinds of things but to get to the point where you're sort of demanding You want to say. I think is beyond the nfl players contract. That's incredible to me that he makes those. Those comments already made them one time. Like how somebody didn't go to him and say hey dick and saying his name dish. Sean didn't ask for those things. The texans told him that they were going to give him some input halcion told him yet. Yeah that that's the only problem. Listen dick for meal is another guy who's impactful emotional gets into talk about old school that that dick for meals franchise would have never said. Let's let kurt warner make personnel decisions. The problem is it wasn't a shawn watson that winning an aspirin these decisions he went in and they gave them to him and they didn't live up to it. And i think that's where there's that's where the the getting lost in translation for coach for meal and another one. I've sat in and interviewed him in person and talked wine with him. Just a good man. But it's an old school comic because he's uninformed about not about that how you feel about should players saying personnel and coaching a news coach. Them will win. If dick from you'll made a promise to kurt warner dick for meal would have lived up to it but dick for meal and his team would have never said. Hey i'm going to allow you to decide who the manager and the coaches and that part i understand but i think he's got mixed up here because in truth it wasn't to sean went to them. It was them who went to the sham. Now i don't know if for meal feels like he's pushing too far and that is she gets fixed and get over it. The sean even done to even warrant nothing to warrant those. Yeah he hasn't snubbing. He hasn't sunk thing nothing. It's the perception and all the speculation. that sean win. It is causing this. The fact of matter is it goes back to again. Communication and trust the jeff fisher who we had on earlier spoke of so. That's dick for meal. You can take it for what it's worth. But i think i. I don't know if coaching meal understands. It wasn't a sean who banged on the door. To ask and hasn't responded to that sense. It was the trust that they told him they would give input and didn't and that's where it started but i think it started before then with the front office and some of the decision that just added to it for sean and here we are and so. We've a lot of comments going that way and to sean. Sit back and that it wasn't him who went and asked for personnel decisions. It was them who gave it to him so Coach from meal opinionated on it brett farve opinionated on it and to shawn watson still sits back and we're looking for a way that we can make this thing work and get it done and hopefully we will and you can go and i'm sure you got more of it on the show today. What was that. mci. I'll say this in the words of carlos correa for some of these opinions that we hear from some of these people either know the facts are shut up shop right. And you're a player if you got. If you've got a concern you should be heard. You should be hurt. It doesn't matter what position you play. Or how much money you make all right up next. Chris gordon andy clue in the trenches followed by the matt thomas show with ross and then the eight teams. You'll want to stay here all day. Long continued opinion. It ever know what could break with the super bowl. thanks jeff fisher and steve tasker. We appreciate them to my co host. The best bid a great week so far. We'll finish it up with john clayton and a couple of others tomorrow on friday for tyler m. c. on this thursday. You have a good one. I'm sean we don't ever take you for granted appreciate you will see about twenty hours. You guys have a good one.

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Jordan Doll has never seen The Godfather

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Jordan Doll has never seen The Godfather

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I am at the one hundred four Mile Marker on I seventy on my way to Columbia Missouri and now I'm GonNa stop this and continue going. Hello Bougainville There we go listen to him so join does never seen the Godfather This this has never seen it. We got a part part two of the same wiles Jordan doll experiment happening in here We have already. You've already heard say I've never having had seen her. You wonder why the titles are so long. Thanks of mine. Gets me trying to explain something so now. Back in part to whenever this part to inevitably comes out This time with our other host of fight the island Jordan doll hello. Jordan has never seen the Godfather. I've never seen the godfather and I've caught a lot of shit for. We've never done it on. This show shot one of the the things that prompted the show to exist. I've also never seen in the other room. We have a board where everyone puts. Who does a show rights whether or not? They've seen the godfather because so many people hadn't it's probably probably about thirty percent. Haven't it looks like it's pretty. We quit with the board. I never seen a mafia movie scarface cabin see using your scarface counts big movie about the mob space movies unless you count Apollo Thirteen. They only go for a little bit. See that doesn't even sound like you're on the podcast. That sounds like someone that you're so far from the Mike. It sounds like somewhere somewhere else said someone in the office told someone else who works to make it sound like mentally. Oh person hoped by the studio and when my favorite movies the challenger God. I'm watching so many times. They see ads for Niagara. We're now they're like you need a new challenge or good We're Chinese yoga pants with the Challenger. Exploding on them. You need a phony Christmas sweater or give a one piece swimsuit of the Challenger blowing up. Aw Shabbes Shabbes Brad Challenger exploded. I would believe that you watch the challenger explode life. Yeah you did say that like you sounded like no. We also joined once the challenger explosion. I think it was a Wednesday. Not Checked House like a eighty s me. No one knows do they. You just set it like a ghost passing by sort of like we caught an MVP. uh-huh Bernstein bears thing. It actually didn't explode. Thought we had it was nineteen eighty and then you see lines of Andrea standing in the crowd. I am great. You're holding hands with Sindbad. You work because he throws the match and she goes shows so I haven't seen the godfather so you haven't seen the hole pockets might have been building to this because we generally end up the last up so we just recorded the same as never seen her is probably the first one where no one does a ridiculous Italian Elian accent. We've ever done in any movie so so I feel like we're there. There have to happen the most here but we've never done the godfather which is one of of the movies that builds the foundation of movie shaming. Right like you gotta absolutely walked in on my roommate watching he was like all three three of them at once in one longer he's like. Hbo Put all three of them together with longer edits so now you can just sit for eleven hours without even a menu. Oh my God or like disgusted with guests crazy right. Oh I don't live with them anymore. He died from God. Viewing I kept on the VHS upside down and he shoved it in the VCR and it blew up the ship. Yeah VCR's weirdly connected to the fuel cell. Whatever she's blows up and say look back for site? Sorry I was just gonNa say person organically could say fuel cell if you and we don't get too in the episode we had All you guys games in the episode. That came out with her Were scored we had teams here and Dana and Andrew are winning four to two and so we have a running tally of four to keep that in mind. But we're going to your godfather script so never seen the Godfather I've never seen. Has Anyone here seen the Godfather Rebecca. Has You know wait. You haven't Dana now because it's like every boring guys like the movie over. It's like fucking isn't that's why I don't read. The Bible is just getting crime me on our side. Atheism okay. We're GONNA pass. There's not a lot of people in this mainly voiceover from The main character which is what I understand the godfather to be okay. So I'm going to. I'm going going to play the main father or the main character. Damn okay While he is in voiceover. Okay I would like you you kyle. That's going to be my friend. Sam Okay that's me. Yeah Yeah I would like you kyle to played Dan corleones when he is not the drake song. It's okay sorry Jordan. There's an inaccuracy in career. Remove you've never seen great this podcast apart. We get Dana. You're young kyle. We're GONNA have you play Omer. You Play Oh God. He got so old when you said that what did did you do. Your face is falling off. Kyle would lead you to play Dan Corley on when he's not in voice over Dana. I think you're gonNA play Don Corleone if you need me it'd be done. I can do a big range of Italian accents as Oh okay. Here's the thing here's the okay. You play Dan Don because because Don needs a done needs a voice. Don needs a an Italian on Italian prejudice in that case notes. Also in that case Dana. You're going to a Bluto corleones on and accept the blaze or isn't it a Pluto Boto my graphing calculator the Andrew. You'll be playing both trixie and aunt Sophia and and then Samuel jump in as a special guest character at the end okay. I forgot who I am. I'm Dan corleones with voiceover. All right hold on. Let Me Find Some Godfather music here. Share the you really wanNA get fucking faded. Supposed to chew him right. All right whenever you're ready Jordan's interior and recast it take care because all it's written as I just fucked up the part of the word. Fuck up reading this book of Knowing Award Boy. Yeah that was like right out of the game. Starting I saw over all right. Oh No okay. Oh this time has had caught on fire script combust us. Okay thank you guys. That was encouraging interior funeral home. The seventies a bunch of Mafia guys and Gals mill about at a funeral funeral weeping openly and eating surveys famous meatballs. Their meat balls everywhere in the fish tank in the punchbowl even rolling around in the open casket of Don Don Corleone Mafia don grandfather and dead guy. People form a line up to the coffin where they take turns leaning in and Kissing The dawn on his rings both cheeks his lips hair and Jack some people try to feed him money and take pictures. I am standing in line is Dan. corleones Don Son Thirties. He looks hung over. He approaches the casket. As long as I can remember. I wanted to be a big shot. Mob Bush like my old dead. This is crazy. The discrepancy. There's going to be between voiceover live action. It's your play pretty good. Surreptitiously produces a document just nails surreptitiously. I'm not always dumb. The top of the visit the top. I got nervous. It's like track where the guy with the gun goes off and the guy just merely trip was the years I've seen a gun. I'm like a gun I'm not gonNA analogies Okay he served produces a document a will from within his jacket making insure nobody sees but there was always one problem. I'm just no good at math. Dan Leans in under the pretense of kissing his father all over. But it's actually trying to slip the will in his father's jacket. However his weight on the coffin causes the LID to come crashing down on both him and his father Dan shoves the lit up flipping the whole coffin backwards? Spilling Don Corleone meatballs out on. The family looks on in horror as Dan stands. Is there sweating and holding what we can only assume as a forged version of his father's will he straightens his tie in glances over at the ghost of Don corleones. That only he can see. See I guess I really screwed it up at this time. It was pretty much the same. It does also supposed to be the same character just so we're clear that's when he's not necessarily can read interior but he can't say also a boy. I guess I really screwed it up at this time. I hop up the ghost of Don corleones smacks his forehead. Headon time freezes on on the well shucks face of Dan corleones and believe me. I screwed it up before. It's so so funny to have them be incongruous. All right cut exterior of a bank in the past. Dan Sits in a parked car are waiting for some bank robbers who come running out of Pine Bank and pile into his car time. I was supposed to be the wheel man on a bank job. The car peels away but I picked up the wrong guys. A moment passes then a second group of robbers come running out of the similar looking vine bank next door and look around expectantly for their getaway cars whereas sirens draw near like. It's my fourth Thursday is a heavy baked day interior boxing ring the past. There's a medium shot on Dan. He watches what must be a seriously upsetting boxing match from the crowd. Then there was a time I was supposed to rig a boxing match. The ring is covered in so much blood audience groans and discussed with every soft wet. Punch we here but I got the instructions mixed up and told our guy to go down in the seventy ninth round. The fight took took four day and everyone poked interior Texas school book depository November Twenty Second Nineteen sixty three. Dan Dan naps up against the window. From which Lee Harvey Oswald allegedly shot President. JFK On that fateful wrote allegedly in all caps casting allegedly. They don't even get me started on the Dallas job. Distant gunshots and shouting can be heard from the street below. Great Dan Dan Doses through all of it. Can you do Foley Work of Jackie. Trying to put her husband's head back to convince it'd be okay now cut to interior the hospital last week. Down corleones lies on a hospital bed. Hooked up to all kinds of of medical equipment an orange lodge firmly and his men and then away talk but none of my screw up. Screw hotted in this last one when I was supposed to be watching my dad until his orange surgery. Dan's older brother Bluto corleones muscle shirt huge mustache. Sailor creeps creeps into the hospital room. Hey stepped out for maybe five minutes to grab some stakes in my no good. The BLUTO snuck in unplugged dead. I guess I guess he figured could he was next in line to be mob. Boss Bluto unplugged. This father then rolls up to look at his watch but instead it's meatball. Oh Geez I gotTA gotTa get to karate. -SCONSIN heats the meatball in Russia's out. Dan Walks in the room with a couple of steaks for him. His Dad only to realize his father has passed away. Dan Falls to his knees and cries out. God what I thought this is my line. Oh sorry go ahead take that again. It's non voice. Can we actually roll this back to the top. So give me okay. Dan Falls to his knees. Season cries out five. Well God God no back you. Yeah yeah that's good casting back voice over when I guess God was listening that day voice interrupts Dan from behind all right a pipe down Dan. whirls around only to find the ghost of his father standing right there. Who Dead put you to get the non? What's difficult about your Dan? Dead Non Voice over. I'm not in voice over. Dan And dawn dad goes. What is this a game kyle name? Yeah okay well now. Since we're talking. Do you want me to be. I'll be Dan all doing both. Okay can you world me around Mcginn. Okay Dan were only to find the ghost of his father standing right there. But then I'll put your dad on the man upstairs. Sent me back a so. You're a ghost dad. Don Slaps Dan with a practice swiftness. That stings just as much in death as it did in life you will watch your mouth. We academic we believe in ghosts. Two dads I'm your Godfa Listen here you go to hold my will names him as the next big mafia boss. But we're going to change that to copy sh-she Dan smiles and nods and I did. I copied big interior safe deposit box place wherever that's called a bank that also pay. It's you could tell how much money we all have. Interior place where middle amount of money goes interior places. Where rich people keep rich stuff? I want to say Mattress Day. Hey little papers. Are they have a bunch of ten walks into the safe deposit box place. He looks less confident than anyone. Ever has I we went to visit POPs. Old Friend Trixie at the safe deposit box place. At first. She didn't want to help out but showed me how to yell at had her until I gave it she'll she gave me what I wanted. Dan Does his best to mimic the shouting and wild fish sticks his godfather. That only he can burger tracy stares at both of them earthly before. Finally saying Daniel Parmesan Leone in all my days. Did I think I I would hear you speak to me with such town. You father would be proud. She winks at them and scoots off to get don's will from his safe deposit box dances assists disrespect and women is a big part of being a father and son Walk Outta the safe deposit box place laughing interior. The GABA Goule tonight Dan in the ghost of his father in a cramped newspaper room as a hunched old man with an eye patch works feverishly on forging. A new copy of Don's will oh Dan swaggers back and forth waving a pistol around next step. Dad knew a guy at a newspaper up north together goule older favor. Dan Fires a shot in the air and the old man works harder. We scared the hell out of that guy until he betrayed his ethics and forged us up a new will. Dad says bullying people who can't defend defend themselves is a big part of being Bob Guy. Father and son leaves the daily montage. The good life. Dan and Dan hit the town after that. Me and dad hit the town. Dan Dan toole around Vegas style. They drink tall Margaritas. They play catch with a gun. They play poker and get lap dances. Sometimes we can see dawn and sometimes it is Dan talking to himself like a crazy person honestly we had never been closer but we. We didn't talk about it. Dan Smiles over it. Godfather getting a lap dance dead says talking about it as a big part of being a mob. We see a quick shot of the truth. which is one man receiving lap dance while another stripper dances next over an empty chair? Strippers are weirded out. Everything was perfect fade to Interior hotel room the next day. Dan Wakes up in a bed next to a bloody horse's head until today that is he screams than sits bolt upright in embed funeral. Travolta there anything. There wasn't enough trouble by the entire performance. He throws twenty dollars on the Horse's head and gives it a kid cousy allowing it to sleep in a few guy. Richie style smash cuts later. We're back in the first scene with the coffin. Time starts again heads. ZOFIA walks out of the crowd. She dabs her tears with the corner of people. Anyway you do this to you popo why she melts into tears. Ludo steps out of the crowd to confront her. I'll tell you why because he's a goon bedroom. That's why it was there a red school incorrect in my original spelling paper clip POPs up. I see your stereotyping Italians. They just called Danny Palumbo angry until yelled at the cooking suck. This is great. I'm writing it down. Google Gone Julia. Changes changes over hugging the script upon everyone in the crowd starts starts lobbying angry Italian nonsense. Dan He looks at his dad and whispers do something don takes a running start jumps right into Dan possessing him. Dan Spirit is jostled out the other side. The changes instantly apparent his demeanor his posture. It's Don Corleone everyone knows it dad. That's that's right and you will never be the godfather part to. Dan unfurled the will and then he tears it in half. That's right I'm back back and I'm picking up where I left off. Dan Is Thunderstruck. You can't believe it. WHO's the ghost of the? I'm the ghost of Dan. What did I guess? He's talking Out Loud but a bad jimmy. We made the montage bonding. Sorry Kid sir. An anime it was all ruse. It's multiple voices put together quite landseer all routes to make you enough like me that I could jump inside. I made a deal with the Italian devil that you would serve out the rest of my time. Dan's ghost cries out no Dan's body begins to laugh. maniacally rod sterling steps out of nowhere steps out of his nowhere space. This was one to a twilight zone. I mean it was the twilight zone in the end. Sorry I couldn't get the twilight zone music up. 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Day Jersey type of thing I think it is did I say Italy. I didn't mean to I really. It's not a joke everything. I know about the Godfather is from the people people in the Sopranos. Talking about the God save everything about it. So that's why like about the show is. They are normally behave like this. But I love the godfather so I'm buying a funny suit suit. Everything I know about the Godfather I know at least from other shows just from watching other shows and hearing people reference that orange thing in the mouth. There's like I think the first time I ran into that gag was like hotshots part. Do Oh yeah when The old guy who plays the old guy. He's got the brand does well. No okay. He's always been like the hotshots movies Anyway Liam Neeson. He dies with like a piece of watermelon he. He tries to. Hi a piece of watermelon and his mouth to scare his nephew so when you die in the godfather he warns in your mouth in the Godfather. I think he dies when he's like he he's hanging out with his nephew in like the Orange Grove and he puts a slice of orange in his mouth and looks like a monster. He's like Oh okay. And then as he's running chasing him he has a heart attacks ties with this orange dies of a heart attack. I think so that's lane that's why you think it takes place in America heart disease and orange and oranges. Yeah I don't know anything about it. Oh well over so long. It's just yeah I'm not GonNa Watch. It always do while frequently be like. I don't have time to watch godfather. I have to watch seventeen episodes of King of the hill to watch way longer longer amount of time of something I have seen than the thing and then every time I do we watch movie or watch me for for someone. Like Dylan's pretty good. Everyone was right. Also whenever I'm about to watch a mob movie if I we're about to watch the godfather right now it'd be like goodfellas right here goodfellas so good it's Olga and there's only one she call a great fellas who's next. Yeah it's good. It was good comma fellows. They couldn't use computers. Were back then they could thing. And then the sequel. That's enough fellas Fellas fellas calm down. Calm down calm down calm down. Come back their fellows Okay so we have this question. I'd like to ask you on the PODCAST. We didn't ask you part one with you guys. But I want to know the last movie you guys is bought. Oh boy purchased you. We record with these microphones up here so laidback. It's okay. Don't to be that close for that one. I'd yelled at challenges. Is it watch. Football search rented it. Nope but I spent money. Would you run. It's called the guest. Oh have you seen it. I haven't but I know. Have you seen it a friend of me Stevens Okay and so I thought it was really good. It's like how much the rental Youtube Amazon where we ooh fantasy FANDANGO APP the thing. That's I'm on my Roku you know that thing. It has a fandango after you can buy stuff on. I didn't know that I don't have a Roku I gotta get goes all right. Let's keep going with less than we ever bought if it's not rented Well she's too young. It's a lifetime movie before lifetime. Subscriptions are US rose and what's lifetime subscription service. All it lasts a lifetime. What it's called? I have no idea how it'd it'd be so God. I get to see one lifetime movie a week movie pass. I hope it's called like promises or something something that feels like you get days small. What does this do you like lifetime movies? A lot on the idea but this one's about winter fourteen year olds. Oh no she's too young that that sounds like a good movie a movie old Z.. Weird amount of information about the movie and have made your choice With all my favorite specifics teenagers. STD's strange ven diagram right in the middle of it. Lifetime plus four nine with a lifetime subscription. It's called like intuition. Okay Okay Ed Wood Value Jordan The last movie that I purchase was purchased on Amazon prime and it was weirdly enough over. Halloween bought the Bubba Duck. Okay Su like fourteen bucks. What are are we talking here? It was I think eight ninety nine now. You know what's crazy about buying a movie on Amazon. They can take it back know. What's so crazy about buying movie on Amazon? I I said they can take it back. You don't actually own it. Yeah you don't own any stuff on Amazon found out they lose your. It's in my library. They get pitcher. They call it my library next year. I think next year my new thing is going to be. I'm the girl who actually likes. Jeff bezos. Ah Guys guys guys guys. Have you seen his house. It's modest on on prime him blink that one time last year he has a job. It was so charming all right Sam worst movie about. I can't think of the last time I bought the movie but for Halloween I had to pay all my library finds so I could rent close encounters of the third kind which not that anywhere. You can't get it anywhere online. I like you had to go to the library to get something. Yeah it's hard to. So how much does your the library like fourteen bucks or something you wow i. I am pretty installments when a book is ready for you if you don't pick it up it's a dollar that's really it's just not picking books out fourteen dollars. That's that's the maximum sentence that's from killing a book. Maximum sentence is actually lifetime streaming service name e books sentence since worth. You hit a book with your. If you hit it depends on the book and I was the book drinking drinking. I will come up I. I think it's like Edgar Allan Poe there. You'll be by the weekend. It was his fault rain the book it was in the Gutter anyways and probably died of rabies. They're saying have you heard that I have. Yeah I think you'll be okay. You'll be fine. We got to We we have no shame bracket because it should be over. Yeah right congratulate finished in theory. It's finished something will come up like Mr Matchup or something but is over so now we're getting back into our four to score longstanding game opposition situation here we're GONNA play With toured clever. Yeah this is the long game. Opposition was named his comedy Central Long Game Opposition Clever. It's supposed to be like an Alex. Jones thing with Jordan's however the present it was for three minutes of the first episode and Alex Jones thing Jordan clapper was a daily show Jordan's funny So here we go. It's forty two. We got two more before and after school member before and after we got to movie smushed into one going for the title of the smushed together. Yeah the movies. I think these two are both harder if we want to recap Last episode where we can last up so we did varsity blues brothers and we did Kassab Long Classic Casablanca. A little harder WANNA say Casablanca and the chocolate factory. So here we go. Here's two movies pushed together. You have to guess the title of the push together movies. A young person prone to violent outbursts retreats to a fantasy world and teams up with four women to help escape their terrible fate. A phone sex operator who was attempting to extort money from them hell harder ones for that. We skipped a young person prone to violent outbursts retreats into a fantasy world and teams up with four women to help escape their terrible fate a phone sex operator who is attempting to extort money from them. Okay I think I know what the we all do having trouble. What is it trying to get information answered third question for the phone sex how it just give us that one? I can't I can't in two minutes we can move on the I really don't know I don't even what's a phone sex operator. What's the what's the phone? Oh Charlie's et he. It's Charlie's E. T.. Thanks Charlie's angels. Are you kidding. They don't leave she's buying Charlie's angels on our phone now streaming it this is so prone to violent outbursts retreats to a fantasy world teams with four young women I didn't even know this first movie until I forced into someone to help them escape their fate a phone sex operator attempting to extort money from them. We're looking for sucker punch drunk. Love Rats Rats sucker punch drunk. I couldn't remember. I knew it was that Zack Snyder glove and I forgot what that's about. Yeah it's hard. It's a hard movie to write a plot on and you know what I mean. You know. You're not wrong. That's part of it. Is he tries to eat. Thinks he beat the system. Dorothy buys enough pudding cups. He wins like miles miles but the whole the conflict is Philip Seymour. Hoffman is extorting him because he called a phone sex line. What's another good movie? That has a phone in. It is is happiness. I guess like it right. It's good I wouldn't like watch it again. I would call it. What a good movie that? I never want to see accident ever again. A lot of Philip Seymour sue SOLITU- that this I'm really happy. I watch this once but I'm not playing Share the one back again now. I'm done with it. I know that's why. Yeah that's what. He died from his a super hot by the doctor's like he's just so hot and why his body was very warm that a fever he died of a fever. Don't worry so he's he's going to be fine so he'll be okay. No He's going to be forty the hot now you'll be this way forever. Who is another one of those? Philip Seymour Hoffman movies. I can't read all right last one accused of being impolite. He's accused of being impolite. Meryl Streep No these being impolite. They're all right next one. We're losing. We're losing the teams around Peanut Allen Fifteen A- an orphan grows up in the remote African wilderness raised by gentle gorilla and then falls for a woman from a random photograph. And when he finds her she is an ageless Muse. News encouraging him to build a roller disco down. Tarzana do Tarzana. Do Wow. It's nice. I mean we obviously Tarzana Xanadu. I have never heard of this movie before until this before and after Xanadu is a movie where a guy someone on finds out. She's a ageless Muse and she to build a roller disco. The plot seemed so fake Yeah that's definitely another one. Sorry what's the name of the lead I've never heard of isn't it. Is it not Santa. Do No it's like a famous actress. trysts either John John. I'm sorry the character is named Olivia Only Newton. John's stab at post grease fame. She was like and now whenever this that would have been easier to remember title All right we got another round of build a perfect movie. Build perk movie You combined two movies from the category to get as close to a hundred percent rotten tomatoes chorus. Possibly we can prices right rules apply. You're going to try and build the perfect sci-fi movie movie perfect sci-fi movie science fiction science or fiction or hyphen. So we can do anything science fiction. Okay what is a science fiction movie Et Alien and you could argue. Snow piercer science fiction Sir like an eighty something tomato so then we want to go. Okay all right. Ah We're ready all right. What's your first movie? I guess is going to be. Our first. Selection is going to be battlefield earth right battlefield earth. Okay all right okay. We're GONNA snow piercer. Okay okay now appears. Here's her and that movie. You WanNa time this okay. Wow everyone loves okay. Here we go so battlefield earth. You'll pick your second would be in a minute Y- Battlefield Earth three percents three percents. I think we've hit on a good strategy. No piercer ninety five percents snow piercers ninety five percent so you have to come up with another movie. That is five percent or less battlefield. You can't use the movie theaters. They used battlefield or just a minute ago. Aw I wasn't there for that. Battlefield like other element is yours about Mars battle. There's not it up. What are the movie called Pluto? We're going to go with them. Movie Pluto Okay. Let me look up Pluto as long as it exists If it doesn't we give you the default twenty percent. We have Pluto Nash Pluto Nash. That's what you get at the closest. That might actually fucking do it. Pluto Nash yet. S- Sifi. I can't believe they just literally. Okay all right Pluto. Nash Nash. Okay I'm I'M GONNA leave. They did not know exist. They said the word Pluto complected Budo Nash. But they're hitting ninety five percent snow peers out All right we have three percent. We've to get three point three percent from you guys so ninety seven. What are we looking for? What did we settle the Marcia the Martian okay so free so we're going team team Sam Jordan here? The Martian is ninety one percent follow the Martian plus was the movie three three ninety four percent. All right we're missing by one right another movie Snow Pier Ninety five percent Pluto. Nash four percents the craziest accidental victory of all time humiliate This is Keri. Can we play a game of what if and tell me what my second option would have been sure Aliens the second one. Yeah Eighty four percents. Some of you guys were big loser. What happened the Poodle Nash? Five to three team Dana Andrea here. Five two three five total spanning over multiple. All triple. This next game is gonNA bomb. What's our time looking like how we where we live in? Okay cool so this game this is I have no idea has and we're GONNA get this. This game is called. Is this a quote from a review of Venom or review of Mulholland Dry. Yes is this a quote from a review of the movie venom. Great movie that Sam and Jordan said they have in common that they love. Is this a quote from the movie review for Venom or the movie review for Mulholland. Drive wonderful so you guys can answer the same thing here. It's one point you get right. It's not nothing if you get it wrong but your team so you can confirm because I'm GonNa give you a quick quote from a movie review. Is it from venom or Mulholland drive. Here's here's the quote. A narrative nightmare in which every scene feels rush and yet it is wickedly wickedly watchable experience. It's gotta be it's gotTa be my man. That one is venom. It was wickedly groans with oppressive. Dread end glitters with bad black humor. on-drive also say okay. Okay it is Mojo undrafted driver so no if they offset gets point next one. It's a big mess but not in a controlled watchable all sense Venom Mahal. Indra Look Close Rosie's through our next one a surprisingly generic listless film filled with painfully tin ear dialogue no Mahal and drive laundromat. You gotta come to consensus all. We can do Venom Venom. It was we got a two point lead next one. It's an incoherent mess of tones acting styles and visual effects and yet it works venom. Venom all the way yeah yea tone-deaf uneven and maddening dumb clunker. That never settles on identity all the way to the closing. That's my man. Venom Venom peppered with moments of pure neck trickling sensation but the emotional center remains elusive and non existent mulholland drive. Sure you might not buy it but you you may still decide. It's drivel but it sometimes elegant drivel. Anything DR got very tense with two left. This is when we come back after. It's alright team in the lead. You need to answer. I wonder what anything struggled all right. We're going to go with venom. Venom it is Mojo Johndroe is. The story is so complicated that you need a background briefing if you don't already possess a PhD in the creators past materials. Dry feels like venom venom venom. That's why he went on to say if you didn't read comic books books that it wouldn't make any sense venomous. 'cause I don't currently hold A. I'm not a doctor. So we've got a seven to four. That was a good game. It's a fully Mulholland. Drive is because eminem didn't write a hit single for the closing credits lose yourself was originally written for let's were moby originally got stung like. Ob was Mulholland. Drive that tracks. Okay we have. I don't know how this game should play that song from venemen. That was from and get them all right. I think we get into character card. Had We got this trivia game but it's too long to play is too long the game with the characters cards words head sprout. podcast all right. Here's the we're going to do a card game brought to you by quip scores. Seventy four Dana and Andrea winning seven to four every character card. Had you guess is now two points. I'm so mad about the second part was crazy. Furious Gate Poodle Nash versus the evil. I don't remember that movie called. Okay Okay so team Andrew Dana you get to pick first team Andrew from one to four here one one all right go ahead Andy headphone here. Plug him up. This is the are that weasley brothers primary potter Georgia. George Weasley from Mary Potter does He. Oh what did I just like. What if they haven't seen this crazy podcast put? They came up with within the premise word. It's boring in here I'm getting bored thing that I'm doing every time you whisper what it is to us. Eileen with my votto cable side all right two minutes to guess what movie or television characters you are. Whenever you're ready am I human? Yes am I a woman animated. No Am I a man Okay am I in a horror movie am I from a premium show. Show no am I from a TV show movie okay. What movie it may legal if it was has a movie named yes or no very who watched I saw? Okay so I'm I'm a man in a movie notebook. No why not on a romance movie from a comedy for Emo Science Fiction Movie. No documentary no Russian. What else is there That's IT and we're out of time It's like a just a drama no You're you're decide to. It's not a comedy thriller a documentary or is it a kid show closest so far but now it's an kids movies the closest so far if kids movie is the closest what other movies is it a teen movie now wean movie fantasy. Okay it's ready to a movie for adults. Is the character a man and an animal combined behind no one of them in your life teen wolf seconds. It's for male riffing okay. It's built in because that crush Did it okay. So it's a fantasy teen closest fantasy man Bubba of Man's Oh is the character below the aged twenty. Yes yes yeah I think so Is a movie that came out in the last ten years Part one of them as it from the movie flight You ten seconds okay. is no no okay I. I don't know if you know you're not in scored toy story story. Here's your hands. I'll give you. I'll give you hint and I think this this will get you close enough to where you can guess. But it's not the answer you are both both of you are wizards. Am I in Harry Potter questions. Russians know both of you to people. Oh we're on what report all right From here all right. So Andrea's guesses are the Radha to Randy Randy. Remember watching Harry. There goes when you're a kid. It was fun watching Toy Story. Because you've got to see toys you had when your the kid on the big screen like hey randy. Action Figures Dana things. Et is a teenager in eighteen as the team. He's an extra teen would love you. WATCH THE EXTRA T. It's just like how group was second one Salmon Jordan you can you can get within one year. Okay What do you want one two or three year selected? Sammy all right D- headphone. Wow all right they. They are tools. And Vincent Benedict Arnold Schwarzenegger and Danny Devito from the movie twins. They're going to be so fucking pissed. Stop that Harry Potter character guys from all right. Okay okay. Let's go ahead and while doc already really hard is it A. Is it a question you cheated the cranking up to three point guests far ahead. This is a three point is it. Is it a word for an an emotion. That army French. Boise's I think so all right whenever you're ready yes no questions find out what movie or television character okay. Is it a movie. Urine movie Is it a movie from before. Two Thousand Yes as it a movie from after nineteen fifty. Yes there's a move from seventy snow move from the eighties yes Are we a man your men. We are multiple men Are we more than two now. It's two men men men from the eighties Gorbachev George and Lennie No Are we humans yes are we animated in any way. Do we have superpowers. No our is our movie fun. Yeah think so Is Our movie you take our movie take place in the eighties. Pretty sure are we. Is it a comedy. Em Pretty sure. Are we cool teams know. Is it an action comedy now. I don't don't think so. Are we old man now. Are we white. Yes are we tango and cash now are we the guys from or was one of Charles Grodin never. Are we cops now Dan. That's that's we fight. One of you can fight teenage now. Are We mutant Ninja. One of US can fight. One of US can fight. The other. One can't fight. I would assume did we. Did we determine our we white men. Yes yes yes. So that takes out like forty eight hours Shershukov stuff all the fun once all the fun ones. With Eddie Murphy is one of those from the past No is one of US former. SNL CAST member. No is boy comedy. Robert Deniro no one of US L. Pacino crews now so I was Michael Keaton now. This revolve around a sport archives. Here we go you here. I got to give you a hint the difference. I haven't seen this movie but I think the difference in Y'all's appearance was what drove. The comedy of this movie wins are we twins data one of the difficulty points for waiting for the question. But you're their fair fair fair fair you got it. It's one everyone's playing this love. Twins twins is one of my favorites. Wait why do you know they were gonNA make a sequel little twins called Triplets Eddie Murphy and they decided not to do it. We're doing so this round all of your. Take your headphones okay. We're GONNA play until one of the guys get it all you can ask questions okay because that questions help everybody first team to get wins. I guess the whole thing because it's seven to six. It's a two point. Game really is unfair. The scores up it's like family feud where it didn't matter the whole time Okay all right plug them up. Plug him up all right. They are Anne and Haley. Lindsey Gardner's type was that loud enough probably it does matter though people just complain on twitter. It's okay there was one I looked it up. I was like this is a moment in the history of podcasts. Okay let me pull up information. We'd have that's also the worst moment of my life. All right no timer ready to break this microphone in. Yeah I guess it takes all the points the whole thing. The other group doesn't get to promote anything they have going on whenever you're ready Actually teams teams. Must Alternate asking questions. Newell Okay All Right. We'll start with the people who are winning. Is it Bill Maher Question Komo TV danger. You first question human yes m a woman Yes am I from movie Yes. Am I a single person. No my former comedy Yes am I. Ocean's eight no. It's all eight people. Promotions Eight and my and my thirties. No did I. Oh sorry was I made in the past ten years no no my under thirty. Yes was I made before nine eleven. Yes I am I sally from when Harry met Sally No am I from the eighties. You know I my from the ninety S and we did. We decided this is a film. More of a movie in in is my. Are we talking about a character. What your character movie? We're not not not not an actress or an actor. Now you can try and find out who portrayed you sure to try and get cold is my is my I was your question. Okay was portrayed by Meg Ryan no is my genre science fiction. No it's called. You said comedy right. No it wasn't okay. He said it wasn't a comedy was a comedy. Both the girl from American beauty American beauty. No I like that. That's how my question This is actually more of a comment. I've crooked starting to criticize waiting in a movie theater. This question. Yeah is he white. Sam Sam White. It's my character white. Yes is the. Is it romantic. Comedy that McCarron. What would you say? We've also already contradicted some correct answers with other information. This you guys have forgotten some important information. But that's okay we're gonNA keep trooping through. I would say it's not I would fuck. I would say that element of romance is key to the plot of the movie but you are not involved in the romance romance the main character but none of the romantic part. Correct all right back to you Julia Roberts under thirty picture they just ask four questions in a row no he said but not the main character mathilde. That's five. Am I Matilda all right. My Twenty S O horror movie. No Oh it's a combination still the comedy with Elements Romance. Am I in high school and Middle School. Sorry Am I played by Christina Ricci now also people compare it to her all right back to you. Is there a supernatural element. This movie. No middle school probably go back to school focus. You probably know school now your terminal. Somebody's twin yes. We need to be really I. I think I would like to guess great. If it gets back to you you can guess okay in comedy. What's apparent aren't job? Am I gonNA Guess Jordan. Yeah of course. Yeah I mean I feel I feel like I've gone. I said I was ready to guess what I meant to say was. I'm ready to win. Now go to Wisconsin. Oh yes you're fucking you knew about Pluto National Ashen or a moderator on the Poodle Nash sub read it like I am an active member. Invite people to get into that ready. You want to build poodle. Nash Bridges which is more and more to get in there. And I'm Jan.. Thank you guys for hanging for parts of Mike Mike and we got it all recorded. That's our new website and Once again let everyone know where you exist. And we don't have to plug the Chambray more can find me Ah This is Jordan Jordan. Nicaragua Razor Lou pitch the Sub Brett. I'm I'm Dana. You can find me at how to stain on Instagram I'm I'm Andrea more. You can find me at at more or less. It's a more or less a more underscore or less sales. You can find me in the phone book correcting you are yours. We'll also so ready to do her bit while sucks alid garbage Usually though you guys can in the alley and Super Garbage Garbage Bridge all right. Thank you so much being here. Everyone go false on instagram and twitter every wannabe tagged and all the posts. Thank you very much and have a good evening. Stirling's a podcast network.

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Micro Wave: Why Do Leaves Change Color During Fall?

Short Wave

11:18 min | 7 months ago

Micro Wave: Why Do Leaves Change Color During Fall?

"Hey everybody short reporter, Emily Kwong here with producer it Hanson back for another microwave. Yes. You know one of these quick little episodes full of interesting science tidbits a little bit of listener mail. Okay right. So Emily Kwong. Jesper Hansen. What my favorite people. I'm so glad you're here go right now as we speak, we are in one of the best seasons the whole year, oh? Yeah. Pumpkin carving carvings or decorative gourds season if that's your. Sure I I mean I was talking about leaf being leaf peba season. Yes. Of course, the leaves are starting to change color we've got yellow. Orange Red yes. It's really beautiful out there right now, and all of that got me wondering why do the leaves change colour during the fall I have no idea and I have to tell you. It's like my follows my favorite season of the whole year and I've lived in some of the best leaf peeping places in the country and I've really never stopped to think about this. Honestly, shame on me I'll tell you what today on the show we're going to stop and have a think about leaves. And we'RE GONNA. Talk to about nece about leaf peeping season and answer the question of why some leaves change color during the femme. This message comes from NPR SPONSOR IBM today isn't a restart. It's a rethink. That's why businesses are partnering with IBM to Change How they work from chains to customer service. Let's put smart to work visit IBM DOT com slash think to learn more. Okay Britt Hanson Troy producer is here we're talking about why some leaves change color during the fall. So bread, who'd you talk about this? Okay. So I called to Nisha Williams she's a botanist and plant ecologist and she actually started black botanist week on twitter as a big deal and one of the things I really liked about Tunisia right away is that she's got this super open perspective on what it means to be honest to be a botanist is a person who loves plants in steadies plants in you don't have to have a scientific reader be a botanist farmer monness -ness of personnel loves houseplants is a botanist I feel so seeing. This right you and your house plants. So. What did she tell you about why leaves change color? Well, for starters it's important to note that not all trees have leaves that change color rights you're talking about the difference between Conifer and deciduous trees exactly. So conifer trees are the ones that bear cones and have those needle like leaves spruce trees, pine trees these are the Christmas tree type of trees, and in general, the leaves on these trees don't change color, right but deciduous trees have leaves that do change color. These are the trees that in general also shed their leaves every year at the end of their growing season. So think oak trees. Elm Trees Maple trees, and that's where we're going to focus today. Okay. So deciduous trees were focusing on you. Yes. So Tunisia, told me that the leaf changing process really starts with what she calls environmental cues. So these are things like the day's getting shorter and the temperature getting colder. You know kind of the same things that we notice when we start to feel like fall has arrived the trees pickup on these same kinds of cues to. So once they have these cues as like Oh wintertime is coming the falling of the lease. The changing of the colors are all in preparation for the tree. hugger down in basically hibernate in the wintertime. Then, all of this medical stuff starts to happen in the League who okay like what well actually has to do with the magic of Drum Roll? please. Photosynthesis yes. Okay. Yeah. Photosynthesis this cool process of how plants harness energy from sunlight water and carbon dioxide to make food for themselves. Yeah. Casual Plant Alchemy. Exactly. It's pretty amazing and as you may remember from biology class in order for photosynthesis to happen as a first step, a tree needs to find a way to capture the sunlight. And leaves are how that happens but to be even more specific, it's the pigments inside the leaves that do this that capture the sunlight and by pigments do you mean colors sort of? So stick with me here emily there are a handful of different pigments in each leaf. And each of these pigments absorb some light and reflects the rest of it. So the color that we see on the leaves depends on the light that each of the pigments is reflecting So let's start with the color green. So the reason why we see all of this green color in the leaves is because of the pigment known as chlorophyll in. That is what we see during the summer and spring months because there's a lot sunlight. So basically, the more sunlight, there is the more green leafy. Yes. Because of chlorophyll, the green pigment in the leaf, and this is the pigment that's the most responsible for kick-starting that process photosynthesis. But that starts the change once those environmental cues that we already talked about seven. Yeah I. Love. The word cues because reminds me of stage actors being cute costume change rights like the leaves are it's my turn to transform but in this case it's less daylight and colder temperatures exactly. So as the tree starts to get ready for winter and the chlorophyll has stopped showing off this, you know sort of green show we can start to see another pigment Keratin rotten Lloyd's or where we're GONNA get that yellow and orange color. Pigment starts to break down. We see this yellow in orange color. Okay. So chlorophyll equals green leaves and Keratin. Lloyd's equals yellow and orange leaves. Yes and for some trees right here this is where the color stop. But for others to Nisha says, there's one more pigment to go. Then we can get into the red color. So not every trees you give you that red color in the red color is produced by Hignett's call in the signs. Okay. So read. For anthocyanins got it but what do the changing colors mean about the tree? Yes. So one thing that Tunisia pointed out is that sort of in the background of this whole process while the leaves are changing color, the trees also entering what she calls hibernation mode. So slowing down the flow of nutrients out to limbs, basically hunkering down to conserve energy so it can make it through the winter. The sounds like what I do? Exactly. I will not move from this couch. No, one can make you know. So after a leaf has cycled through its pigments, it starts to run out of energy in it starts to die off, and also it starts to weaken the stem rate there. So when and as we're walking through lease where And things like that to drop the lease autry. I had no idea so much going on inside each leaf this this succession from green to yellow and orange maybe a red grand finale. It's kind of like each segment. Really it's kind of like each pigment is taking its last bow on center stage before the winter. Yes it's an amazing show. And you know when I was talking with Tunisia Emily I kind of realized like when I take my afternoon walk through my neighborhood I haven't really been appreciating how hard believes are working you know for this amazing production once you start learning about them then you're your latest changes you see a world different rate yeah is awesome. I love seeing the world barrier is bread. This is this is really beautiful. Thanks for making my afternoon walks a little more interesting. You know we should think Tunisia, but it's absolutely my pleasure Okay. So before we go. Read a little bit of Listener Mail. Why don't you start? Ra. Okay. Last week was our first birthday emily. How does it feel to be one? Honestly it feels like I. Don't have an excuse to not know things anymore. I have to be kind of responsible now. So many of our wonderful listeners wrote in with these notes of congratulations. Thank you all and I wanted to share one. This comes from Sam Okay Britt Sam. Rights. Happy. Anniversary I've been listening from the beginning and I love the show. It is one of my go-to recommendations because I don't know anyone who can't get something from your show. To let you know that I really love the anniversary episode and I really appreciate you making science accessible and fun for everyone. Oh, we try. I loved that. Sam. That's so great. Okay. So Emily, one more I picked this one out. It's an email was really for you. Oh No. I got you. Comes from a listener named Wallace. I'm a budding forest ecologist and have recently decided that after completing my master's degree, I'd like to pursue a PhD in forest pathology. Nice however, you are making this very difficult because you're recent interview on Face Mites. has made the most compelling case I've ever heard for studying organisms growing on human substrate walls, ivory words for you don't do it. Don't listen to Mattie. She makes things sound grade, but I don't know I'm highly suspiciously. Stick with the. Stick. With the trees and you to watch their leaves change. Yes All right folks. Happy Weekend. Stay safe. And Cozy, and we will see you next week. This episode was produced by Thomas Lou Day Thomas. welcomed. Back. Checked by RL Zabidi and edited by the Grayson. and Big banks to Josephy NEO NAI for her engineering support on this episode. You're listening to shortwave from NPR.

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#98 Hvordan beskytte merkevarer bedre i en global verden?

Liberaleren Podcast

20:29 min | 1 year ago

#98 Hvordan beskytte merkevarer bedre i en global verden?

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120519 ATJ in 30

Ace and TJ

16:15 min | 1 year ago

120519 ATJ in 30

"When you look at your current bathroom do you know that it needs an immediate update? We want you to know about one day bath and shower remodeling with prices as low as one hundred ninety nine dollars per month call eight hundred nine four eight five seven four nine eight hundred nine four eight five seven four nine. Hey it's TJ. And I wanNA tell you about my recent stay at the Ballantyne you know the second you walk in you know you're in a fancy hotel is not only beautiful but the staff goes out of their way to make sure you have the most luxurious serious experience of your life to go to the Ballantyne Dot Com and see all the great things. You can enjoy everything from their SPA to golf. They're they're beautiful pool fine restaurant and everything else. A true luxury hotel provides so book your stay now at the Ballantyne Dot Com. I I really think you're gonNA love it from the market of Charlotte North Carolina. Jay this is the Ason Jason. TJ and thirty podcast. Here's your it's ace and TJ's man ban that is coming up on today's ace and Tj and thirty along along with a dentist. Who is under fire? Were some issue. There aren't good issues. Rarely are issue. Good let's get started with your public apologies. In Theory Gas Justin timberlake making a public apology to his wife for drunkenly holding the hand of his Co Star in New Orleans on a movie that was all the all the trending a couple two weeks ago. So what's your public apology to your spouse. Jennifer has a good one. I'm sorry to my husband for buying a bunch of stuff on the Internet in my vicodin induced coma after surgery. This is not way. This is the second time I've done this. So there's a pattern now a EH lesser heart having more surgeries. That's in. This lady. Wants to apologize to her. Husband for big addicted to cork sickle Michael Cooler bags. She says I now have four. Oh I we're a cork sickle family. But we don't have the cork sickle bags we have the cork sickle Cups and bottles and things like that. They're like yeah because there's the same type of thing You can get your name put on those so keep I WANNA apologize for my wife for leaving the new gas stove on. Oh not once but twice for a few hours after baking something. That's kind of dangerous. Isn't it out song as there's a fire going right not just leaving the gas escaping scaping out of there okay. As long as it's burning it off your right here in the clear are you doc. What tiny now? I hear that all the time. It's it's more difficult with an oven because you can't see the flame Amen Oven. It's on the stove. You see the flame going you. Just pull something out of the oven like at Thanksgiving when she burned the roles. You just don't may not I think about that. Was I was messing with her things. She didn't burn the roles. They were just a little too brown for my taste. I made out like she just had charcoal them. I'm sure you enjoy. It was funny. Other people thought it was funny. Yeah any mini. Regan's yeah you're never duplicate it. This is the TJ in thirty podcast. What the heck am I going to do this? It's not the right reaction when you get a Christmas present but it happens you go you open it. You're thankful and then you go wait a minute. I didn't ask for this. I don't know what I'm GonNa do with this. There's a fine line between it being just a terrible gift and something you don't understand. I think a lot a lot of people thought it's just they're just sharing a bad gift like one lady's husband gave her a weed eater. Well that's just a bad gift to. That's just a dumb thing to do. There are so crazy though so we asked what was your W T F Jeff. Why the face? There's a lady on our facebook page. That said her step. Mom's step mom gave her the Jamaa a sack of potatoes. And I don't know where to stop this. This guy's this woman's husband gave her pickle flavored chapstick because she loves pickles and she goes. I'm never use it because it stinks themselves like pickles. I don't want that in a gift. My friend Ginny me some Perko chapstick says a joke on a thing. Yeah I kind of get that Mike. If it's pitiful do you ever use the chaps at. I have but it doesn't really taste like pinnacles. Oh okay that's not that weird then but we gotta eat it like you do. The woman says years ago my mom gave me a Kristi Yamaguchi ornament skate when I asked her and she explained she saw Tommy watching ice skating one time on. TV thought it was perfect. This is perfect Kristi Yamaguchi Christmas ornament. Yeah what are you talking about mom. God bless her. This lady said her now. Ex mother-in-law once gave her a picture that came off the wall of her house. If you take never once admired it oh and my mom gave my brother and me. One year Some of those. They're they're kind of like Pajama Pants. Yeah but they looked like acid. Wash Denim jeans. Yeah what were those. Yeah everywhere they. They were They were modeled after Jag ings. But they were but they were They weren't leggings. Pajama Pajama Pants. GonNa the Lounge. That look they did. They looked exactly like acid wash jeans from the eighties. Certainly MHM This lady says her first Christmas with her husband's family. His grandmother gave her an ashtray. Using adult smoke. Husband doesn't smoke out of a the woman says my husband bought me a commercial French fry cutter for when we have fish FRY party he does. There's a lot of a French fry cutter. Oh great thanks to use it. Oh my gosh man you want stand here in Peel tators ever. You won't do anymore or ever again. Oh Wow these are amazing and I think women dislike Gifts that have to do with cleaning or doing things around the house just because other women tell them they should dislike it. I mean who wouldn't love a a French brought cutter exactly. Casey said. My aunt gave my brother a book about out rocks book about rocks rocks. And he actually said would i. What do I need this for? He wasn't in Iraq. Doing this woman it says. My mother-in-law gave me her Kohl's cash from Chris. Call scheduling the coupons when we return it's ace and TJ's Jason Man Band. What does a man do the you would ban next on the act? Jane thirty PODCAST GUEST I. This is the ace and teaching and thirty podcast now on demand on ace and TJ NJ DOT com the act J. or through iheartradio search. It's already time to get fall and holiday travel plans together. Our travel agent Michelle charges no fees and will bring her thirty years of tricks of the trade to get you. The best deals possible. There are now also payment options Asians with no additional fees unlike the cruise lines and land packages just email Michelle at travel at TJ DOT com. That's travel at ace as TJ DOT COM farm. Stand Pumpkin Porch Pumpkin. Pumpkin Roll Pumpkins. 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They're driving past me while I'm walking. Okay they're not walking on the street next to me. They're not not. What do they say dislike? I've had a whistles. I've had baby like that. I mean are they alone or are they are they with their their there Comrades because if if they have a their their mates with them you know then I guess it maybe trying to be funny or something but even that guy I just can't I can't imagine what did you say. It seems like every woman had that happen. Every woman has had cat cotton. Yeah it definitely happens. Let's see the ugly man bat man men saying I love you unless they really mean it. She says always like the misuse that phrase A man van on men taking forty five minutes to poop. Well they can't help it. Sometimes you about eating there something about a woman ban on Trying to control everything your man does including boop well. That's a different game now. The man to man ban on taking crap from wave taken crack from what a man ban on which this lady called the man cold man cold meaning when a guy gets a little bit sick. He acts like he's a lot. Sick is calm down. Keep it in check. Yeah I agree with them. Yeah I'm not one of those guys us but they make all of us look bad. That's True Sam. Welcome to the ACE and TJ show. What your man Band Sam? Okay my man. Dan is like I all these younger guys. And they'll have their women going to work and they will stay at home and play video games and it just really irks me so bad. I'm like women are out here. Busting their butts and these guys just sit around and play video games. I'm like you don't get your tail out like it really irritates me. Yeah but yeah. Women could put a ban on that by not putting up with you. That's searchers is ridiculous. I can't imagine a grown man to sit at home all day without a job or anything playing video games letting here. Yeah but you know a man. Heterosexual Man's goal in life is to get a woman and if he's got a woman in there's no threat of that going away because he sits on playing video games that's what he's GonNa do. Yeah y'all need to get to get in your kid. It'd be real easy to Ma'am Band that just I'm sure. Thank you very much Sam. You did a great job. I'm talking on the radio. Yeah I'd say how sweet women just never should get into a relationship and ship with a guy who plays video games at all the years. Save yourself a lot of trouble. Even if he has a job. Yeah really yeah. Because sooner or later he's going to quit his job to play video game. We're waiting on to drag up at anytime. You just say you know what this work is getting in the way of my video game playing. I love a loved one man bad leaving the car door open just letting it ding ending and all the cold area it. There's a dentist in Anchorage. Alaska that is on In front of the court. He's on trial right now because he's being accused of doing some things. That are not really what you would call normal. Dentist Behavior NYC He's accused of sedating patients when they don't need it because he's patting his Medicaid payments Extracting the Teeth that should not be extracted But my favorite thing. There's video that the court was shown of this dentist extracting a person's tooth while they're sedated while on a hover board then the tooth comes out. He Rolls Away on his hover boards then spins around with his arms. Yeah I mean it's hard to not look it's hard to convince someone on your not guilty in its setting. I mean that's like a Jim Carey movie. Yeah patient is in their new. ooh riding in on the Hover board grabbed pliers whatever they would call them pull it out and then resume back way overboard. And there's a picture of him here and he does he's in court but you can tell he's a broke uh-huh not the tenth. Dan I care when I was doing got so. 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All Ball - New Kobe/Shaq Feud; Dwight Howard's L.A. Role; Boogie's Downfall; Guest:  BTN Analyst, Ex-Iowa Star, Jess Settles

The Herd with Colin Cowherd

1:02:58 hr | 1 year ago

All Ball - New Kobe/Shaq Feud; Dwight Howard's L.A. Role; Boogie's Downfall; Guest: BTN Analyst, Ex-Iowa Star, Jess Settles

"Hi everybody colin coward here host of the ever-growing heard podcast. I'm in the honesty business. You know that i don't feel i tell you what you wanna on here. But what can we talk every day about the sports stories. You have opinions on the heard podcast network. Now is a one stop shop for all sports fan. Listen to the heard that h. e. r. d. with colin coward on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio or wherever you listen to podcasts hey what are welcome in. I'm doug golly being you. You are listening to all ball all basketball all the time my guest. This week is a legend in the state of ohio. He's been coach. He's now broadcaster with the big ten network network. He is just sells great dude awesome stories and a really amazing career where he played not one not two not three not four five but six years six years iowa because of major back problems caused play in the n._b._a. But for mr basketball state of iowa jess settles bouma our guest <hes> couple of quick hoop thoughts as we're getting ready to watch the world cup and we're trying to decipher kobe bryant versus shaquille l. neal. Is there beef and i don't know if you say no new beef but this is clearly beef. This is how it was with shack. Shack didn't student come in shape. Phil didn't crack the whip to get him in shape one of the big big reasons they didn't have to a days when shack was on the lakers was because shack wasn't wasn't in shape and fill. They want to kill him. There's no sense in having crazy training camp when you're going to be playing all the way till june one of the genius parts of <hes> phil jackson's coaching that people won't give him enough credit for they just won't so the first thing is in. This is really really important. Neither other kobe nor shack are telling lies. Now i do think that shack a little bit overplaying the head kobe past more against the pistons. Let that go into the piston series series and all the things that were going wrong there but the bigger issue is shot could have been the greatest player of all time or the biggest greatest big man of all time. That's what everybody with the lakers. I was with the lakers in three free agent. Camps alien summer league would always say but he likes being shack movies tv shows music videos hanging out big personality and it's worked for me. He's a genius and business and he's a great dude but you can be a great dude and not be completely locked in on being the greatest ever not being wired the way that kobe was wired. I'd kobe was wired kind of like a serial killer but he was also wired like a guy who you know more like a backup point guard. I wanna get everything. I possibly can out of my body. Every amount of potential attentional i wanna get out now was he. Selfish sure shacks right there. He was selfish. She would take bad shots. He could be hard to play with he could be hard <hes> to be hard to manage the personality and ego but but koby worked his ass off and he was always in shape shack naturally incredibly gifted fast quick strong you name it and by the way huge met shack when hugest human beings are you'll ever meet meet great smart personality but when the season was over he was done. He was shutting it down for a bit. He wasn't about developing his game. He would develop his game as they went and that's why he never became a great free. Throw shooter. That's why he never developed much primer game and by the way yuck you can have. It doesn't have a bad work ethic but he wouldn't guard pick and rolls main. How many guys play against the lakers shooting point guards like my baby like trevor hudson come off it was supposed to be so there's no new put this is in fact the beef and this is part of what led to the break-up of shaq and kobe why the team sided with kobe shaq had more potential shack had greater dominance but kobe. You get everything everything you can add. Coby coby got everything could have his body. I don't think you can say the same project be sure to catch live editions of the doug gottlieb show weekdays at noon eastern three p._m. Pacific on fox sports radio and the iheartradio app dwight howard is just signed with the l._a. Lakers and you get people who clown dwight howard signing with the l._a. Lakers they put some parameters on it. Let me tell you what i've what i've heard about dwight howard signing. I heard his workout was the best workout out of any big guy that the lakers had in their building on their roster not on their roster that he's lost twenty five pounds. Your ears the quote whereas here the lakers front office guy. If my body looked like dwight howard i would never put on a shirt. They said he was fast. He was agile well. He was bouncy. He looked amazing and here's the thing about dwight howard being a weird dude he is. There's lots of weird dudes in the n._b._a. So i don't know if it works. I do know they need to play. You know there. There is kind of a sense of well. You'll you don't need a backup like no. You probably need twenty minutes a game aim at him. You know javale mcgee's only good when you play him fifteen eighteen minutes and then they're gonna play. Anthony davis some small ball five. Maybe the lebron small ball five but they they're going to need him and then you have demarcus cousins and as good as is as talented as cousins was now the arrest warrant form because the threat he made to the mother of his child like and i do understand there's some nuance to achieve didn't wanna bring the kid is wedding. I mean there's a lot going on there a lot but he can't can't say what he said. Does that mean he'll be out of league forever no but this this was a conclusion that many people saw might have seen coming because of his behavior behavior previously in his career. I'll tell you this. I don't know if damarcus just fakes it more fix it more fix it better than us too but i've run into a couple times and he's been incredibly gracious but i kind of think that this sort of thing in addition to the lack of work ethic practice you know we could have seen this coming a mile away it. It's really unfortunate because he was a really talented guy and now he suffered three straight injuries on one leg and now he's facing a charge. I do i do i do. I think he meant it probably not but the fact that the co- call was being recorded tells you probably wasn't the first time he said something of the kind. I don't know demarcus cousins is done in the n._b._a. But it wouldn't stop me if it's really really hard to find them a home in the n._b._a. In the long term future folks is chris broussard and i am here with my partner rob parker parker and together. We are the odd couple that's right. Join chris and me everyday as we give you. The hottest spicy sports takes that you won't hear anywhere else for the record rob. Parker is the one i'm the more reason board what so listen to the couple with chris bruce hart and rob parker on apple podcasts hi kathy born with the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts all right so look this is the this is the first all ball now that a lot of kids are back into college and i wrote article for e._s._p._n. Dot com a long time ago and i think i need to tinker with it. Redo it a little bit and put it out on the athletic or they don't wanna know. Put it out just on facebook. Whatever but <hes> the idea is this. It's for freshman and i do think it works a little bit for high school but it actually works best obviously for college the idea that you got to unpack and you can use this when you go to new job. I've taken jobs where i didn't have a great feeling about. It and i didn't emotionally unpack until maybe it's too late but it it's a it's a couple of tips for basketball basketball players to succeed once they get to college to have the best freshman year possible. You're gonna be a little lonely less lonely now obviously than when we went to school when i went to school because malnutrition facetime everybody now travel seems a whole lot easier this year but like cell phones bring so much closer to people maybe too close but you can't get from other people social media. Oh man hey i want that. Why don't we have that facility. Why don't i have that workout. Why am not my not playing as much. Is this guy. The the big key is locking on your studies. Get ahead early. I tell my own kids this because the one when the teachers features when the when the coaches go around and find out how you doing in school if you're on the border on unless you're a superstar they're going to bail on you because they they can't depend on you to be available second semester. One key part one key component to ability ability is availability and if they think man is dude ain't gonna be eligible second semester. He's gonna flunk out the end of the year. You think they're going to invest in you in a basketball court of course not <hes>. You need to to be kinda managers. Those managers just want to be part of the program and and likely want to be a coach in the future and you know what once you get to february and you need some new gear. Who's going to take care of you the manager so i think those are two key parts to it. I think you gotta get your rest. You gotta eat right. Why do you have to do both loath because when you get your rest when you eat right you're going to be a better practice player. You're better practice player. You make more shots and practice make more shots in practice. You'll get more opportunities and games and the rest is up to you. I think the big key is you just have to continue whatever work ethic it took to get you where you got heat that up up and if not grow it relit when you get tired from workouts from lifting sore and you feel like you can't go late night in the gym them and get your hundred two hundred five hundred thousand shots up now that you have those guns or dr dish machines now's the time and to keep that going during the season season because the guy who takes the mo- shots is going to make the most shots. That's the way it goes and the last thing is don't worry about the league. Don't worry about the tournament. Don't worry about anything worry about the here and now be present. Unpack be sure to catch live editions of the doug gottlieb show weekdays at noon eastern free p._m. Pacific diffic- art. Let's welcome him in <hes>. He's just settled his former mr basketball in the state of iowa. I was actually looking through in researching getting ready to have you on the mr basketballs and <hes> <hes> fred hoiberg was ninety one some dude. I've never heard of eric path. Oh van from from pella christian was ninety two when she told me rafe was the year after you adam. <hes> spanish was was ninety five actually played without him in the i._b._a. I._b._a. and he was at arrives for a time roberts. <hes> justin wessel dean oliver nick carlson kirk hinrich glenn wurley early like there's been some really really really good place all right you grew up where in iowa i grew up in winfield isla. <hes> <hes> a town of one thousand. I lived on a farm north of windshield. I what about forty five minutes south of the university of iowa so it was a it was a community we didn't did not have any stoplights. I always grew up wanting to play for i what doug and <hes> when i went to the five star basketball camp in pittsburgh because there weren't any pick up games or any competition where i was growing up. That's when it kind of ignited my fired us to get better to drill and to see that i could compete against better players around the country. Okay okay. You're you're skipping some steps so winfield iowa i mean we farm corn farm what kind of farm corn and beans and still farm with my dad of about a month from now be sitting in a john deere tractor and combine for a couple of months straight going back and forth picking the feeding the world feeding you doug i know would you like corn on the cop. I do and soy products as well. You know like and then they're doing some stuff with peas. Now you know those those beyond beyond meat burgers with peas <hes> okay so the only thing you have to be put real meat but but you know some stuff you gotta gotta you gotta. Try all kinds of okay so i'm picturing like how many acres going up <hes> i grew up on a two hundred acre farm okay so two hundred acres. I'm i'm picturing like a grain silo barn hoop on barn free standing hoop. I'll who louis ears like no one else but but i absolutely tell me give me the picture of what the of what the farm look like in the in the eighties so your typical goal eighteen nineties farmhouse. It's been remodeled like six times over. The years goes from that kinda cheap siding with no installation to now as you. You know you get a little more modern and you get the regular citing. You've got the detached garage with the hoop on the side of it. <hes> you've got the hog shots right next the garage so literally if you shot the ball at a poor angle and ricocheted off the right way would end up in newark pit and you have to go hose the ball fall off before you could shoot again so what made you really concentrate on your jumper horse pens three or four grain bins a machine shed head and all kinds of older tractors combines planners things like that sitting around tried to mow them the best job we could but <hes> just your typical great okay so why not football like your cousins. George kittles your six seven. You look even now you look at when you walk into a room guys guys that say like oh you played tight end or you played offensive line for. You're not heavy but you look like almost like that's your build. Why basketball not football. I just love the game. I played football in middle school and <hes> it was so violent and i was i was a tough tough kid but it just seemed like every time you come back on the game. You had a sprained finger a rolled ankle. We weren't very good at that time so we got slaughtered. There's a lot of games actually bob stoops. I saw him at a charity event a few years ago and he said the same thing doug. He's like really messed up you should've you should have played tied in and even <hes> who just went into the hall of fame not yeah. It's only donald so tony. I played against him when he was was a cow and i was at iowa and we were on the court and he just starts stared at me at the free throw line. He says yes man. You really messed up. You're in the wrong sport so so you're not wrong in that but <hes> just loved basketball more seems like everybody else in the family plays football we had a we were all pretty big and pretty strong. I never got the speed gene so i i think i made the right decision. Although proud to do over again i might have gone the baseball round gonna pitcher. It's just a lot of a lot less demanding physically yeah six seven pitcher reach half-liter fleet halfway to home plate plus they they will they will come <hes> okay so your high school was how big how many kids graduate with i think we had about twenty five to thirty in my class. <hes> very small <hes> had a great opportunity at a small school to kinda play all five positions to learn the game in that way got to play varsity as a freshman everybody did there were no cuts. <hes> everybody got uniform who went out and so the summer the nike camp the five star camps and all those those were critical to my development and my mom was a pretty good basketball player in high school as well and she taught me a lot but six six six on six six that legendary six on six game. That's what i grew up watching our our women's. Teams were outstanding winfield. They won most of their games and eh. Our men's team struggled but <hes> yeah i i saw the i saw the beginning and end of six on six basketball and then obviously the way the game's changed today. I was a part of a good era. Yes <hes> the old fan fa. Did you have a fan backboard. Did you have the full backboard. We had to steal. The fan. Backboard stayed in iowa. I think until all the mid nineties i mean i i played on. All four years was crazy yeah. We still don't have a shot clock we need. We still don't have a shot clock in the state. I believe that or not i don't know else guys do out there or not. I think they do in high school basketball we didn't when i was when i was a kid who is eric potvin and how did he win. Mr basketball the year in between between you and fred hoiberg and reference he was gonna go any leads score out of pella and i believe they won a state title he he deserved it. He was a top player in the state at that time but all those guys on the list. The biggest problem is that most of other than dean oliver there <hes> going wurley myself. Everybody else didn't end up at iowa right and you start talking about heinrich and the cost and especially the friends those guys all went to kansas as you know oh and change the course of history for the state of iowa basketball so that was <hes> that was really devastating to the i will program as well as state but you just can't be this size can't lose legendary players out there both came from families and all of them have wonderful pro careers as well <hes> okay so you show up you show up and i was there. Was there any thought to you going out of state to play in college. Okay so you'll you'll be fascinated aided by this and i don't know if you've ever thought about this but the two of us we almost ended up on the same team at notre dame. I know i know this but i don't think people people will believe it but but that was mccaffrey and john macleod heavily recruited me. I ended up coming down to michigan. I hi what and notre dame girma hawk fan obviously close to the university love the hawks but i was so intrigued by that notre dame degree john mcleod and his his pro system <hes> my football weekend at the university of notre dame was just unbelievable is off the charts. The julia roberts declined. Tell those guys i mean they really really sold the program and <hes> i just i just was hesitant. They ended up giving scholarships to i believe marcus young and was a gorse that you played with one year got matt borsch gotch matt scott got so those guys took the two scholarships cbs even remember meeting with fran about possibly doing a partial scholarship on baseball beat on the baseball team but then a few years later you come in there and i'm looking at the roster a while back and i'm thinking would have been ryan hoover doug gottlieb at garrity just in the mid nineties running down mcchord unbelievable unbelievable. Let's white dudes like the whitest dudes we had so antoni weiss. Who's assistant lehigh never forget. We played georgetown town. This is like a big monday. They have their ranked number two in the country. They have alan ivorson. They have you know <hes> they have <hes> junkyard dog <hes> <hes> they got victor page they have they're just loaded and never forget iverson with the free throw line the first half and antoni why she's our first sub in when we started five white dudes and here comes tone tone lines up next to iverson he's on one side of iverson on the other side and <hes> at that time iverson's nickname was bubba chuck and he's like what's up chuck and they kind of they can adapt a little bit. He's like yo man was up with all the white dude's notre dame. Y'all got a rule. You can't start a brother and we were just dying dying dying laughing. Hey it's r._j. 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I mean that's exactly right. That's a great way to break down. He came in a mcdonald's all american arguably the best shooting guard in the country as far ars shooting the basketball. I think he won the three point competition at the nike camp and was by far the best shooter there to our class. He was early maturing very strong long extremely competitive one of the better passes i've ever played with as well but as you know when you're just a true shooting guard that transition especially especially back then was so hard to make those of us who were forward centers could get cheap baskets throughout the game. I mean you can get a couple of offensive rebounds couple tip japan and you felt good about your game or shooting guards. Just you had to knock in shots and that was about the only way you could score because you were getting mugged half the game and grabbed and held l. and you just couldn't get easy baskets. Obviously you're playing point guard. You have the ball in your hand. You can get a little confidence throughout the game but he was tremendous to play for struggled a little bit as freshman year but then when we came back the next couple of years i mean he was an all league guy ended up getting a few trials in the n._b._a. But he was i roomed with him and and <hes> you know for a naive coming on the town of a thousand you know never basically been out of the town to the room with chris. Kingsbury is okay so he were fourteen because his favorite drink was seven and seven correct. I have no idea that can't be right. I've never heard that that's what he told me. I've never heard that yeah. You know her arm all right. We'll put that out. We'll we'll ask. Kingsbury wants to is kingsbury is on twitter <hes> you guys had. Didn't you have dude. James winters enters right was this was the big senior on your team. You guys any. I don't feel like that was right at the end of the doctor. Tom davis thing when you guys remember what what was what was going on with the team. What was who is who is jeans winters. How did he play well. James winners was a phenomenal player extremely athletic <hes>. I i remember remember van aren't stale from the phoenix suns once asking me about james winters seen him on tape. He's like mad. If that kid was two or three taller you know he would. He would have been a pro so he was undersize forward but james winters was one of the unsung heroes in the history of our program because he was basically the only senior left after kris street was killed in the tragic accident so you can imagine you've got an n._c. Double a. tournament team acie earl wade looking bill james winners kevin smith vow barnes and they go to the second round. I believe the year before chris streaks in his accident. Everybody else graduates couple of guys thrown off the team so he comes in and has to play his senior year with a bunch of freshmen underclass kenyon murray was a mcdonald's all american mr basketball the state of michigan montier glassware was out of detroit. We had a pretty poor team at first year and i know how do you have to mcdonald's all americans. A freshman sophomore you and is due james winters and you guys weren't very good. How's that possible possible. We just that first year kingsbury refreshment kenyan monteiro. We're just young lost a lot of close games and then winters winters. Here's what's her probably the last two or three a year when the games were the big games were on the line so it it just didn't work out but <hes> yeah he was. He was incredible incredible and in the next couple of years. We had pretty good teams yeah next year. You had kingsbury you you added andre woolridge writes from chicago big point guard and in and ryan bowen came in as as well <hes> he was. He was more off off off the bench. What was doctor. Tom like to play for. He was wonderful. I i always tell people i look forward to going to practice every single day it just he made the game fun. We were a little bit ahead of our time when we pressed the entire game so it seems like you know eight nine. Guys always got good minutes. We played so hard in that pressure defense that we'd actually sub ourselves ourselves out because we we couldn't play forty minutes. We played a fast pace. <hes> liked today. The forwards had the green light to shoot the three pointer. We never felt like we're out of the game. Hey we played in a lot of games. We were down twenty or up twenty and then the games come back to even because just the style of play he was he was great to play for. We had some good n._c._w._a. Tournament of it runs my career ended against rep hamilton and yukon who beat elton brand trading langton avery and the national championship that that year but we lost in phoenix in the sweet sixteen but dr. Tom was phenomenal to play for. He would talk to you about business on the bus he would talk to you about academics he was into the r._t. He was a very well rounded guy. He has his p._h._d. So he was more of a businessman who coached basketball rather than just a basketball junkie who was just just obsessed with the game. Yeah yeah you hear your back. Was that your junior your senior year. You hear you're back. I it started my sophomore year right in the preseason and just obviously it was a struggle every year since i ended up having to sit out two years believe it or not so i see i see some of these transfer puerto guys and are i'm trying to play and transferred gets dipping sixty years and i know unfortunately what that's all about but <hes> yeah that's that derail a lot of goals and dreams. That's for sure lately. You sat out okay so you start okay so remind me because you sat out the you. You started ninety three ninety four but you you got got you you. You sat out. I ninety six hundred seventy played a couple of games and the next year you completely shut it down and then you came back so how how that's like your sixth sixth year at your university and and you decided not to leave. What's that like to come back and try and play and keep mind you're playing with. They completely different group of guys right like it's it might as well be a different sport almost considering the guys that you played with at the end of your career exactly so i'm just imagine i'm in the locker room. Freshman sophomore year at iwa things are going great denied oliver. You mentioned as mr basketball. He was like an eighth grader mason city and he would come into the locker room to get autographs and hang out with the team because we were recruiting him at an early age ricky davis who ended up being a first round pick. The cavs played with lebron is first year. I believe also another star. I will high school kid so these guys they're coming in the locker room when i'm a freshman sophomore and then fast forward to nineteen ninety nine when i'm coming back to play that final year after being out two years and i'm looking looking to cross the locker room and they have lockers in the same room and i'm i i've been here forever it was it was tough. It was a completely different game completely different teammates. You're pretty emotionally scarred at that point. <hes> you know trying to perform still having false pro aspirations ends and dreams even though it's just not possible so you're you're really emotionally mentally not quite as sharp as you want to be. I just kind of took that last year to be a mentor and and <hes> it was dr thomas last year so it was unique situation where he was a link lame duck coach so we were we were constantly story that year and we had a good year and made it to sweet sixteen but the game completely changed it was it was bizarre and i wouldn't wish it upon it and you had added samo right. Who is <hes> yeah right. Who's who is like. Kingsbury crazy only played your position another guy who should play football. Give me your the best. Give me your best sam. Oh man i forgot about sam. Okay that's crazy. <hes> san wealthy was another guy i remember going with kingsbury dug in my parents van to recruit sam okay when he was playing at an event in dubuque when he was a junior in high school. He grew up uncast bill. I mean he was just an unbelievable athlete on above the rim guy when he ended up transferring to iowa. I was shocked. I mean it just it was it was crazy. It just seemed like i'd been there forever and here's another guy who had played against wisconsin transferring in iowa. Unfortunately he broke his wrist right there with five five or six games ago in nineteen ninety nine i mean or we would have been even better. He was a great player. I can't think of any stories that you know crazy stories. Just tell you like so so high school k so like he was he was the one the coal the coal center right and wisconsin yes yeah the senator cole said he would donate the money to the arena after sam okay committed to going to wisconsin like that's how big it was to to get at him so i played in the it was called the coca cola all american game in indianapolis. Bob knight's son ran it right so i i the magic roundabout and play mcdonald's the magic's round on wall and i played the cocoa american and sam okay was on my team and i was i was nineteen. I i i was held back. Nineteen is as a senior and i had a fake i._d. The same okay. I don't know if he had a fake i._d. But he just he looked like a grown man and so it was like the night of the night before the game. I'm going to say the night of the game like after after the end we play the game was fun. We go out afterwards and like here's a kid. I'm guessing at the time he's six seven probably only two twenty five or something just before he got really it was still pretty strong and he's he was so drunk i had to like put him on my shoulder and help him like back to the hotel hotel which is a couple of blocks away and it was like moving a dead body and <hes> and i just i remember like 'cause we were roommates. I got him to the room. I can get him in his bed right and he's just a mess and he looks up at you and he goes good time <hes> fun night. Let's do it again tomorrow night and there's call. He's out like that. He's he's a nut you guys. I has this like mix right. You play with j._r. Kaci i took a visit with him to to <hes> to notre dame name. He fell asleep <hes> on our visit out at in ryan hoover's dorm room when they were throwing a kind of a dorm party like jerry koch nicest do whatever you had this like mix of like super nice farm dudes and hardcore party drinkers. That's how i look at iowa basketball. I mean it's nice to talk to you to get to know the guys. I played with i. I just didn't know their side of this scenarious j._r. Koch was a pro people forget. He was known by the knicks yeah had he had he played the day doug. I think is a true like a stretch. I think he would have been a first round pick. I mean he's his game was built for today's game. Maybe not as much back then but he had some knee troubles overseas and he's now the donald trump real estate mogul peoria illinois. I don't know if you knew that i did not. I know that if if if you go to peoria the the top real estate guy and that city has j._r. Koch these he's doing really well. He's a piece phenomenal but i don't remember sam. Okay drinking a gallon of milk. Every night pre game. You know meal. He would literally get a picture of it down the entire thing in front of us but he was he was another mcdonald's all american. I played. I played with three or four of those guys that i wouldn't people used to criticize. Tom davis for not being able to recruit and yet. We've never had that many almost all americans on campus at one time ever before so i guess that was kind of a mess. My name is danny shapiro. I'm the host of family secrets podcast. The secrets kept from us secrets. We keep from others and the secrets we keep from ourselves. Family secrets is more than just a podcast audio experience. It's also a community a place for people to share powerful stories of heartbreak healing and hope in season two we hear from a woman whose his father's descent into dementia revealed his deepest darkest secrets and we hear from a man who kept his wife's terminal illness a secret to protect their children listen to season to a family secrets on apple podcasts the iheartradio app or wherever you get your podcasts <hes> okay so you there six years years and and it's over then would you do. That's a great question. What did i do right after school. I went into television. I worked at the local c._b._s. Affiliate out of cedar rapids iowa for a couple of years also sold pharmaceuticals. <hes> married my high school sweetheart to win a weapon. Her dad was a great football coach in the state of iowa for many years and started a family so that's <hes> that's what happened and <hes> got out of pharmaceuticals farm with my dad and and i'm still doing television. You didn't like was it because of the back or did you lose the love for it. Wh-why hanging up i it was strictly for the back. No i did not. I love the game. I was just in too much pain. I i kinda run out of options. I was working out that summer for a team in australia and ended up hurting it even even worse to where it just. I didn't have a choice anymore so basically made the decision for me so yeah. The injuries really damaged my career. My back injury is so brutal all to deal with and even even small ways. It's always bothering you and it just wiped me out yeah yeah so now. You're you're now covering the league. How much different is the big ten now from when you play it's it's different from because for several reasons it's really hard with with chefs ski in calipari and now penny hardaway. It's almost like they take the top twenty guys every year and just leave the scraps for everyone else. So i remember my freshman year. When i played i played against grant hill when he he was i think a senior at duke <hes> in a in a non con game and then you can look at the big ten i went up against the fab five one night they go up against the sean leonard and minnesota the next night you go up against dan thomasson illinois tonight after that glen robinson than comes to town after you're you're already already worn down and you're a freshman and then here comes the big dog who will drop forty on you. We it felt like at that time and especially when you and i were growing up in the late eighties east. It seemed like the big ten got all of the elite players now. That's probably not the case but it felt like there was a lottery pick every other night coming to carver hawkeye arena so now. It's a little bit different. We don't quite get those level of guys and so there's a there's a lot more parody and not quite as much attention on that the new rules obviously elite probably in my opinion as a fan of hurt the big ten more than the other league as far as you can't grabbing hold and you can't fight to the death that's what i love about playing in and growing up and watching it and the freedom of movement rules totally changed the way the game has coached the way of the game is played to where nick ward for michigan state <hes> taleb lesson for ohio state matt harms for purdue. They can't even stay on the floor anymore and yes. It's their own doing because they know the rules and the coaches train them that way but if those guys would have played when we played it. They didn't even think about fouling out. I i literally never thought ever about finally out of the game so those are a couple apple changes. Yeah you've been a small center though you realize that right like you had had five out of five small ball. What stretch five is you know. I don't know if you'd be you'd have to yeah you'd be you. Just be a small five. Yes a stretch five is more just strict shooter like you'd be a small five. We could step john face up you score in the post. You know you rebound the paint would be empty. Can you imagine the paint being empty and you play the five catching the ball at the top of the key like what would that be like it would just be unbelievable and and no one could touch you. You know you just lower the shoulder and just attack and you'd get a whistle one way or the other. It's <hes> yeah. It's it's really interesting to see how the game has changed. I mean the first round now of the n._b._a. Draft so many of these guys who i was growing up with what would have been late first round pick. Maybe early second round pick instead of instead of <hes> lottery pick so it's it's really fascinating. What's your take on it. You do you like all the new rules what it affected you. I mean you you were you let are led the nation in the plan i would i would say a look at the way guys play now when i when i got to notre dame a cigarette question when i got to notre dame i would the way i played. Come down and you shoot three in transition or come off a ball screen and make a play or you get to the hoop. I didn't have a middle game and from the moment. I stepped on campus. John mcleod's whole thing was dougy. You gotta have a mid range game right like literally trying to rewire me and and you know we ran an offense. That was not a good fit for me. It was it was basically like to side motion. You know almost blocker mover s. q. set you know where the guys you're on one side with a screener and then the point guards up top and you almost never virgo through or we'd run a set and we didn't run you know a a set secondary break which is kinda playground in transition so it was it was it was a real fight so in terms stylistically the style of basketball is played now be for most by most coaches would be much better for how i grew up playing now having the lane wide open. I realized that because my shooting went went to went to pots it would still be hard to get him but a lot different. I think it'd be better for me. I think the guys it's hurt are the are are the guys or the power forwards in the centers and those are the guys that you know it's. It's like you brought nick ward perfect for example. He's a first round pick ten fifteen years ago right. He's a he's a left handed power forward. He's a first-round pick now he doesn't have. He's not going to be an n._b._a. Player and he's not and <music>. It's just a it's a very different game. I agree with you in terms of the physicality of the big ten. I also think maybe the bigger one is guys. Leaving so early in the big ten generally doesn't have obviously michigan's lost a ton michigan state's lost a bunch ohio states lost some but the big ten does have a tendency to have the best recidivist recidivist rate of any of the big conferences. I i wonder honest question now if you were coming if you're in college now before you hurt your back back you know would you have gone to the n._b._a. Do you have any bitterness is the word but do you have any regrets overstaying as long as you did because you're back. It got progressively worse than you didn't have a post college basketball career. That's a that's a deep question. I think i think i think you when we grew up and i when i went to the university of iowa. You went to notre dame. There's no question that we had a desire to play in the n._b._a. Yeah i think everybody has a desire that was someone like that but first and foremost desire was to win a national championship well listen. I get a college scholarship right there. You go right so the first thing was like man. I just wanna get a scholarship and you get a scholarship. He felt like and then and then then it's man i just now i just want to start. I just want to start and i mean i chose notre dame because i could start right away and i'm still pissed. I didn't start the first four games. Even though i wasn't the better player in practice so they want to start then you may wanna start like okay now like i want to get to the tournament. I wanna become all league. You know all these things. Things were important whereas it does feel like the only thing that's really important is man. I gotta get to the league and it feels like it skipping steps. I totally agree i i. It's it's a fascinating conversation. I mean your legacy back. Then was to get a scholarship. I mean that was such a big deal. If you got minutes i mean when i went to the university by i was hoping to play by my sophomore junior year. I was just hoping that it would open up like that. As a matter of fact when i was being recruited by michigan i just looked at their roster and i looked at the guys that are recruiting behind me like tractor trailer mo mo taylor taylor guys who are really good and but a lot bigger names and i just thought i'm not going to get the minutes here. I'm just like you're going to notre dame. I've got to go someplace where i feel like i can get the minutes and dr. Tom's tried not to recruit over people but then it was a matter of you know you gotta hang a banner. You've got to win a big ten championship. You've got to go to a final four obviously when the injury hit me my sophomore year that everything in my mind changed i still in pursuit of those goals but then it it was like man i i would hate to play and be good at this game and never get one paycheck from playing this game and so then it becomes you become a little more self-focused unfortunately when you get injured and you start planning your your individual career but it was never it was never it was today although if we grew up in today's game duck we'd probably the same way yeah my look in any bitterness. I i wanna play one game. I wanna play in the final four came up one game short. You wanna play in the n._b._a. And i i you know i i i did rookie camps in vet camps but never the the true like the true training camp so i never even played a preseason game <hes> but i still would deem my career success. Not just what i've been able to do post career but like look i accomplished a lot of the things that people only dream of accomplishing so i still have perspective whereas just like we we are kind of raising kids to not understand not they'll tweet out like truly blessed to get an offer from duquesne university like yeah but that's that's not really how you feel. You should feel really truly blessed but you don't you feel almost entitled and almost entitled to get a shot in the league and people don't don't realize how hard that is so yes so i've known you for many years doug and always appreciate you and then very product your success and after playing the game but i'll tell you and you gotta give me a communist the time that i really fell in love with you when you went face to face with market size or the big twelve tournament. Nobody went face the face with that guy you gotta you gotta fill me in on that story okay so <hes> so i was state the first year i'm in the big twelve like again like i see so my the year. I said i wouldn't notre dame. A sat out went to college and then <hes> that you're they played u._c._l._a. In the tournament game of the tournament i think in the second round and u._c._l._a. Beat him. What was it a little those little guards name halloway. Let me see halloway away man. He was tiny <hes> so i remember i was at malarkey is in newport beach and i am not a big drinker. I did not go out much but <hes> buddy of mine claim mcknight who also transferring sitting out he went from u._c. Irvine pacific. We go down to malarkey through the n._c._a._a. Tournament and we started drinking and we've been there all day and we we are hammered and we're watching and i i just i remember i was state liking it and and like a little bit of the story. I knew a lot about but i will basketball. It's my first year. We're at oklahoma state. We play tim floyd's. They're they're not very good. Play my big monday <hes> they did some weird shit shit where they they'll like not guard you and the the best whoever the best player was they'd guard you and they would face guard you not look at anybody else and the guy who was guarding like adrian peterson peterson best player he'd actually say like hands off hand off hands off hands off hands off. It was like their program. They'd run like a triangle to so. I actually played really well. I hit a bunch of shots and we kick their ass. They weren't very good the next next year spicer's first year maybe no his second year and they're a little bit better. It was you stacy's first year and we kick the hell of manar place so we got there my senior senior year and we at oklahoma state. We've only got beaten by double figures twice. I believe i believe twice in three years. Once was is texas my sophomore year. They actually weren't very good. They just blasts us and i got benched at halftime because i talked to coach and how he took me out for mistake that wasn't my mistake and i walked and it was my first road games forum and i was like that's bullshit and he's like you know bullshit. You sit there. Put on your sweats and helped me coach so anyway my senior year we're good. We're really really good and we we go up to ames and you know they have tinsley. They have pfizer they have and they got a squirt like shirley even play on that team. Stevie johnson's is there center like six five. He shot like ninety percent from the floor zero layups and dunks perfect basketball team and they kick the living shit out of us. They beat us felt like nineteen eighteen and we were like. Are you fucking kidding me. They this team like we're better than them. So big twelve tournament god who we oh we play kansas dances the first day and we are we're gonna win the league and then we lost oklahoma last game of the year at home last game and gallagher were up nine coach subs meow because he thinks are gonna foul me. We just go in the tank. I i don't take an open shot. At the end of the game pass anyway. We lose at home so now we're the we went from would have been the one seed to i think the four seed and we play kansas and we had beaten kansas by thirty three and we'd be kansas by nine and we began by ninety. It was heinrich and call some freshmen and we we kicked the dog piss out and <hes> <hes> so the next day we play. I will state and they won the league. They're the ones see where the four seat and i don't know if you've been to kansas city but i was state when they're shitty iowa state when they're good kansas city is filled with iowa state fans like they're crazy. It's a home away from it's unbelievable. Leave -able so we walk in our and we bought a we probably about five thousand fans and they probably brought ten thousand fans and then there's like five thousand other fans for the for the other side of the bracket or whatever places packed sold kemp arena so they're talking all kinds of shit and and early in the game i had pass fred yang seen who's our swedish center sophomore. He's running down the middle lane and i'm kind of dribbling right to left and i throw a kind have a no look like through through a bunch of arms. He gets any dunks. It and i am fucking wolf. I'm running my mouth coming through. We're coming for you. Mother fuckers fuckers. We're coming for it right because they won the league and we're we're coming for and then next time we like. It's kind of same like we're running carolina secondary but we just fred was our rim runner so instead of throwing like through the defense i throw it over the defense and freddie catches and he's about to dunk and pfizer visor fouls the shit out of like and marcus fizer was annot at six five whatever to two thirty and i mean he's built like you and i mean he fouled freddie pretty hard and so you know like this kind of comes back to my notre dame like john mccain was big on standing up for your guys. How big is supposed to stand up for little guys the little guy i get right visor iser spaces like you like you know like i don't know i was just running my mouth. I'm like head my head to his chest like he could poem but i'm right up in his chest chest the part that sucks about it was i appreciate that you like that. We should have won the game. We got a four point lead with two and a half to go and desmond mason our best players american fouls out and <hes> we got a little selfish and they were they would do this thing to make me score right where i drive in and they bluff bluff at me and then get back and almost like an open lane and i i missed a layup and i missed another one where i drove in and i was so i was so hype. I still have the picture of it. My hand was over the rim to like dunk. It and i like i was gonna finger all it instead. I turned it around a dunk. It and i the balsa a hit in the back of the rim like some high school trying to dunk and then i made one of two free throws late whatever like joe atkins i was shitty. He was shitty and we lost the game. <hes> the funny part of the story is we lose the game. We should have won the game mason out but we are. We didn't do well and we got a bad azzi worst seat because of it but we're walking out of the arena and tinsley advisor headed to a piss test for we all had like me him and i think think it was <hes> <hes> decimation we we all had to do our drug test afterwards and like you know those games are like you're so tired end of the season. They got nothing left. You like i need to drink like gatorade. Just to work of a p does bottle right. You can't go in the same room and we just got done like wolfing at these guys is and they're literally sitting two chairs across from us. They just one and we just lost and it's the most uncomfortable thing ever so there you go. There's my there's my story. Hi everybody it's colin coward here host of the ever-growing heard podcast. I'm in the honesty business. You know that i don't feel i tell you what you want. I wanna hear but what you need to hear. We talk every day about the sports stories. You have opinions on the heard podcast network. Now is a one stop shop for all sports fan. Listen to the heard that h. e. r. d. with colin coward on apple podcasts or on the iheartradio app or wherever you listen to podcasts so i didn't mean to bring up a bad man i forgot set a bad memory fell apart right at the end yeah now my my marcus visor story is when i came back my last year. I believe it was nineteen ninety nine. I believe that was his first year. Because what year was what would that was second. That was two thousand 'cause. He played three years 'cause when they beat. They and they beat us in ames. They were chanting won m._v._p. One more year one more year so i i think he stayed three years. So it was the second year he had a phenomenal. You're you're exactly right and they were the ultimate college basketball team. I ended up covering them a few years later when i worked for c._b._s. Too news and they lost the michigan state to go to the final four which that was that was that was not that same year i'm talking about. That's the very next year. I mean they. That was the national championship happens game basically teams and then we were and yes and i thought we were probably the third best but we we were so shocked about that. We because we lost in the other elite eight. We lost florida. Who was they were young but they were stacked. I mean stike nine dudes that play in the n._b._a. And we just played like shit and they had had a better game plan and we just didn't play well but yes you're completely right iowa state and michigan state that was like a national chain stacey went crazy and got thrown out and walked off the according walked across the street and had a beer. I was at that game. I was covering that game. It was uh was mind blowing mo- pete and company the year before when size it was his first year on the team you stay. She was trying to send messages so it was probably the fourth or fifth game of the year where i was staying. Iowa always play that big game and it was is in carbon hawkeye and i remember watching the tape and studying the tape but this is my sixth year. I don't have much strength anymore. Just more of a perimeter player not a power guy. I'm watching watching pfizer on tape and i tell the guys there's no way i can hang with this guy like he's going to beat me to sleep. He was like kind of a charles barkley college type of player and so we get in the game and he picks up somehow picks up a couple quick fouls and you stay she throws him in the doghouse probably plays him five to the ten more minutes the rest of the game and we beat them by. Let's say ten points because he was sitting on the bench so that's how you stay she kind of was the mind games and also good lesson. You you know you just show up and play. Let him out of your planning. You never know how the stories that go no question okay. I thought they did a great job with tinsley he couldn't shoot but they would run stuff form to get post ups in mid range stuff and and they they would hide that couldn't shoot at all and that allowed tinsley to be tinsley and he was he was a really hard for me. He was so big and he he gave even ground like when people will play off of me. I was too small so the only way to do that is to to to beat him transition to shoot and i wasn't a good shooter and eddie had no confidence in me so i had no confidence <hes> but he was yes yeah i mean i see that so you you played from the cloud. You played for sutton who are a couple of other guys. I with your coaching mind your analysts who are couple of other guys from that era. You ought loved to play for for a year. I love for self. I think he's awesome. Yeah i mean he don't use it. Tulsa tulsa tulsa tulsa they went deleted to they were a great team. They lost to north carolina <hes> just but self he he he was hard on you but he let his guard kind of go and let let get lead guys play even then and i almost played for izzo. I think i would have been kind of the pro. If i would've taken izzo call from delivery room of his first baby they put the doctor on the phone and i would have been his first point guard because my freshman year was the first year whose head coach had i taken that i i be a head coaching college right now right like it would have been and it would have been perfect <hes> but i didn't i didn't even visit because trailer visit and albert widened visit but i would love playing with <hes> antonio smith and and and jason klein and that that that crew and you know not might not ever gone there because he was the next year and you only went there because because the car accident with michigan eh on his on his visit who else i mean like look at you know i always thought i wanted to play duke white point guard the bobby hurlers my idol like that that was kind of an easy one. That was what i would <hes> and arizona didn't recruit me and i had friends that went arizona's they took <hes> jason terry instead of me and eventually mike bibby ahead of me and <hes> that would have been amazing just because the way they they played or or u._c._l._a. and i didn't go u._c._l._a. Because eric did recruit over guys he didn't care and he would tell you like five guys dougie. We play the five best u._c._l._a. High post offense not the only offense just the best. You know all right last thing. I've got a couple more for you last thing your favorite arena to play in back when i played i would say l. annoying. I had a huge rivalry over the thomas situation. That place was nuts. It's not the same anymore <hes> and then he'll call see him it aims you played in that. That's a that was an incredible place to play outside of kerak. Irena okay best player. You thought you ever played against freshman year. It seems like i played against so many legends i would say glen robinson far and away in college was the best player i ever played against. I i've talked to many assistant coaches who had a scout him. In the ninety s they all would agree that he was far and away the best player player of that era and the big ten played against grant hill like i mentioned before but he wasn't grant hill of the pistons when he was in college he was not on the attack. We're big dog doc would attack you on every possession my freshman year. What's the only time i played him. I made the mistake. I was playing well against him. I was i was for some reason i was feeling my oats and i was in a defensive stance and and i said come on come on come at me. I don't know why i would have ever said that. In the middle of the game doug he starts chuckling at me in the middle of the game ends up with thirty eight dunked on multiple times. Glen robinson wasn't enclosed <hes> <hes> and then how do you when you have a family how many kids real girls fourteen eleven and when when when people tell them come up to them said man your daddy was a great player right which is always feels cool right <hes>. How do you how do you how do you want to be you described to your kids so i've taken the approach my wife and i we don't put pictures out and jerseys and trophies and things like that i i don't know why i because when i go to my other teammates houses i absolutely love that more than anything else to see all all the memorabilia but i just wanted them to grow up not knowing much about it just so they didn't have to live up any false expectations and that may be wrong. Maybe maybe right but that's sort of been the way we've done it. So my fourteen year old is now because of twitter because of the big ten network you know being on television. She's show constantly being beginning. Ask things like that. So what's the question. How how do i want to be remembered. How do you want to be described just just as a great teammate and a great hawkeye. I mean my my dream was always to play for the hawkeyes and and that's what that's what i want to be remembered as they were the wrestlers tougher than you they were they. They may have been clinically insane right guys. John streep legendary trainer always always used to say the difference between the wrestler's wrestling athletes that they they you know they party just as hard as everybody else but at five the next morning they'd be in the in the weight room lifting and working out with everybody else would be sleeping in. I grew up in the dan gable era at iowa cher. Doll you wanna national championship every year and it's hard for basketball guys to love rustler's but in iowa it wasn't art with dan gable my first maybe the second week i was on campus. I went up and i asked gable if i could ride the exercise bike in the wrestling room just because i thought it would be more intense than writing it out on the basketball court. I think that's the first time you've ever had a basketball rutgers requests to be able to work out in the rest of the room but he said yes and so then he gets on the bike next to me doug and for i write it for half an hour and i'm writing hard hard but he tries to do it harder than me. He's trying to break the machine to show me that he's still got. It and i don't so that's kind of their mentality. I rustlers whereas toughest oklahoma state to i always say this <hes> three things that'll survive nuclear holocaust twinkies cockroaches and wrestlers and and passers hey man this is great awesome catching up with you can't wait to break some bread. Do some stuff in the big ten network with you. Thanks so much for for for for being part of all fox sports radio has the best sportstalk lineup in the nation catch. 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Weekly Wrap: How Cities Are Responding To Homelessness, Plus All About Flu Season

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Weekly Wrap: How Cities Are Responding To Homelessness, Plus All About Flu Season

"Hey L. Sam Sanders here in my apartment going through all of the streaming whatever services I pay for every month pay for Hulu I pay for the Extra Hulu blue thing where you get like live TV on it. I pay for Amazon Prime Video. I pay for net flicks. I paid for the fastest high speed Internet to watch all of those things. But you know what when I add it all up. I realized I listen to public radio more than I watch any of those streaming platforms combined. And here's the thing public radio on like all those other things. We don't send you a bela month. All we do is every now and then ask you to give some doing matt now if you go right now to donate dot. NPR DOT org slash. Sam You can give and support the original streaming service public lick radio. Your donation helps local stations across the country. Also helps shows like this keep coming at you with fresh new hot content go to donate dot. NPR DOT org slash. Lash Sam thank you. Hey y'all the fans not betty this week on this show. NPR national correspondent. It does Kirk Siegler and lately bottle. All right The South Hey out from NPR. Dr Sam Sanders. It's been a minute happy weekend to my listeners. To my guests my guest is such a tree are in an actual live studio with me like just across the room. That rarely do you both layla bottle. NPR national correspondent covering cultural diversity and race in Kirk siegler NPR national correspondent covering the West and rural issues. Glad to have you at NPR west. Today Kirk because you recently moved to Idaho to really cover the West. That's right that's right. I'm here from from Minute perch in Boise where we're covering the West and rural America. I would say that you came back just to do the show but he came back for the NPR West Holiday Party party. That's what it was. I came back to report. A story with my esteemed colleague will talk about very soon. It's a story that is a big deal across the entire country will get there get to that newsy subject but first Leyla Kirk. I want to play you both the wacky EST audio. I heard this week a ability to have a special replacement one of our customers as he was on. An airplane. Listened to US hustling is one of our inviting the options. We a great me machine if you join us in supporting and watch hustlers lights. Hey did you hear that. They promoing mislocate Jennifer Lopez. Oh Pez and heroic yes jetblue flight. Yes so this week on a jet blue flight some J. Lo fan who was is a passenger on the plane convinced the flight attendants to on the loudspeaker in the airplane. Ask everyone to watch. j.lo's movie Hustler's wow vis vis superfan is Joseph Longo. His Mel magazine staff writer in calls himself a Jaylo backup dancer he was super pumped. That Jaylo got a Golden Globe Canadian this week for her acting work in the movie hustlers and he says on this flight he was gone he was sure that there were Golden Globes voters. Not sure how he knew but he the Figured if I urge all of them to watch this movie and vote for Jaylo maybe it'll help her out jetblue was like sure why not a certain FCC rule about hey hey this let it be fun and what. What movie would y'all attempts to get an entire plane to watch? I don't know that I I have really bad taste. I'm not sure I'm Gonna I find myself repeatedly While I'm on planes a lot but I find myself repeatedly watching Lost in translation. I don't know that I would force the entire plane to watch it lost in translation. The Big Lebowski Fargo. I'm always watching those unplanned. Yeah I always watch round comes on planes so escapist also the idea of the folks in the air having any more in air announcements bothers me. 'cause they already talked to me way too much. I don't WanNa get the credit card. I don't care how many feet were up in the air. I just like just telling me what to what exactly yes I right. We're going to start the show as always do ask in my panelist to describe their week of news in only three words because my two guests have been working on a story together for for a while there. Three words are going to be shared on the same topic correct. Leyla when are they so. We chose carrot or stick and was that about well Kurkin I have both been reporting on the growing homelessness crisis and this sort of trend of how much you police the homelessness crisis. And how much you so-called all criminal is being homeless and how much you actually help solve the underlying issue. Yeah and this is big in the news this month because the Supreme Court might take up a case. That dictates what cities can do to fight homelessness. Right Kirk Right. So there is a case. Out of Boise Idaho where I'm now based And it has huge huge implications across the Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals and potentially across the country. Basically what it does. It goes back ten years to win. A group of homeless people sued the city for ticketing them for camping mostly along. The Boise River. the argument was that they didn't have anywhere else to go at that time. The city's only shelter was Christian and some people didn't feel comfortable going in there for a myriad of reasons but also just wasn't sheltered space available. this wound. Its way through the courts back and forth But the important thing is last year The ninth circuit. A federal appeals court ruled that a city cannot ticket homeless people for Camping In public places for sleeping in public places if there are no shelter vents available and that ninth circuit covers covers what states in areas. It covers pretty much most of the West from Idaho Washington Hawaii Calvin and yeah okay. I was going to lead to California Gornja where the homelessness crisis is at an epidemic epidemic reports. It's bad everywhere. Here is bad extremely bad and so this mid sized you know relatively tilly. Small City is worried that they're going to start seeing the encampments that we see the large tent cities that we see in west coast cities and major west coast cities. This is that potential is a potential for that. Like how how how the crisis for Boise there certainly is. It may not be as eye-opening when you go around Boise A- As you do just right here in Los Angeles right outside of our studio However the underlying issues in Boise or the same spokane Washington Seattle is Los Angeles? They are experiencing an unprecedented a affordable housing crisis There's a shortage like no one has ever seen at least in modern times In Idaho in in particular. It's a conservative state. There isn't a lot of public money for addiction services mental health services and the housing shortage and the affordable housing crisis. This is a big pinch. Their and that's the underlying issue all this and Layla. You've been covering the crisis here in Los Angeles. I'm sure there are some parallels to what's going on in Boise but this this is an extreme case here in L. A.. Yeah I mean California's home to probably about a quarter of the homeless population across the country in La and New York sort of battle title for the number one spot and those sort of top ten cities that have really big homeless populations. Most of those are in California and on the West Coast and L. as La County has unlike sixty thousand people that are homeless and is that more than like ten years ago twenty years ago. Yeah I mean it's more within last year Los Angeles the city sixteen percent jump from last year every single day in la one hundred and fifty people are entering homelessness and that same number are not coming out of it and really and so that drastic uptick when I read these headlines about homelessness it seems like there are upticks all across the country. Right now yes of housing affordability and basically the robot here in particular is that none of these cities are now in compliance with federal law. Right how well. The homeless population is so big that in some cases cities are trying to enforce people from camping on sidewalks and they may take them. But there aren't shelter beds available so under this ruling ruling. That's unconstitutional it. Accounts for cruel and unusual punishment if your ticketing people yeah so cities like La ultimately the issue here. Like you said is about affordability. I spoke to General Doe gone An advocate from Los Angeles Community Action Network Center skid row that C- known as the capital of homelessness. Yeah Down Right and so this is what he had to say about why. This is happening to people all the time everybody drugs. And everybody ain't lost. They remind seventy one percent of the people is home is in the city of Los Angeles because arenas to Dale. Hi this it s all. Is that true well. The Most Recent Homelessness Homelessness Count in the county actually did say seventy. One percent is based on affordability accessible housing. But you know those are disputed numbers. Some will say it's a variety of factors and it's still that counts still said twenty nine percent Ardila people dealing with addiction mental issues but ultimately when you interview a lot of people Out there they'll say I got one guy spoke to like I hit by a car. I was a truck driver. Couldn't do my job and and sometimes it's a few hundred dollars is it makes a difference and we don't see All of the homeless people like in in smaller cities. There are people living in hotels. We tend to focus on the campus people living in hotels and cars ars and there's a frustration amongst the plaintiffs in particular in this case in the homeless advocates I think most people are homeless advocates performers. We call them the people who represent the homeless In this case I spoke with The civil rights attorney in Boise. Who first brought this case? His name is Howard Geldof any points to an underlying frustration in a a lot of these cases. That part of the reason I'm in Los Angeles was to interview the high-powered. La Law firm that Boise hired to represent them in La Law Firm. Yeah to appeal. This case to the Supreme Court Hundreds of thousands of dollars there are other examples of this across the ninth circuit. All of this money going to spend on legal fees and enforcement meant and not just like building houses for people. Yeah so let's let's hear what he had to say there. It seems like more and more cities have taken the punitive approach to address the problem. Instead of addressing the problem well this gets back to us. Three words carrot or stick. What is the method that works just giving people housing resources sources or money or criminalising? Some of the things that the homeless find themselves having to do what does work what we know well clearly. Nobody's figured it out. I mean I think when you talk to HAMAS advocates They'll say let's stop doing this. Distraction airy stuff. Let's stop going to the courts in wasting money. We all know what the problem is. People are poor rent is too high and we need to solve it that way but then when you talk to city officials they'll say what we have to walk a fine line in here because rent is too high and affordability is an issue. But we don't have the beds yet. We don't have the housing yet. So how do we advocate that both the rights of the homeless assist and the rights of people business owners residents who are walking through these encampments were and then you'll see homeowners especially in a place like L. A.. They'll vote to approve money to house the homeless say. Don't put that shelter next to me right. Don't put it there. You know. I think there's a growing consensus that this has to become a national issue that there there has to be uniform a national policy to address this. I think for years and years. It's been the city over here this state over here this in this but it's all interconnected you know in terms as of housing in terms of Mental Health Services. We know that you can't just put somebody who's been living on the street who may have addiction issues or any other mental antle health issues or anything yet. Just give them a house and they'll be fine. You wrap around support and that costs a lot of money and then you gotta find a place to build the housing yeah And Complex I wonder we have been in the midst of an economic boom by many measures for several years. If not approaching a decade. Did you know the unemployment rate is really really low. The stock market keeps going gangbusters and yet we have this crisis which proves that like a lot of folks still aren't making enough money. What is the explanation for it and like what is explanation for all of these rising housing costs while the banks are making a lot of money? I think from the housing costs but the the unemployment is really low but when you parse the numbers a little bit farther in many communities sure there are a lot of jobs but they are not high paying jobs slid servicing the second benefit benefits so there are people making a lot of money in a certain part of society while at As the middle classes. We know. It's getting squeezed more and more The lower our income side. Yeah and there just isn't enough housing You talk to any mayor of any political stripe and they'll point out in any town that we don't have enough housing. We stopped building building housing houses dramatically after the great recession too close. I'm wondering where the federal government plays into all of this. You know there was talk of the trump White House doing something on homelessness but Just this week. There was a new bill released in the Senate that proposes among other things giving financial aid aid grants to families facing eviction and the idea is that there are some remedies that we can give to. Folks will keep them from becoming homeless in the first place like money It remains to be seen if this can move out of the Senate and pass because Congress doesn't pass too much of anything these days but perhaps there's action from DC Z.. Coming it's interesting. We just don't hear much about housing on the presidential campaign trail But yet when I visit any community neighborhood in a city or a smaller town I was just in rural Oregon the other day and The city officials there were drilling me with. We don't have housing. Yeah it's so expand everywhere. I was back home in San Antonio Texas for Thanksgiving giving and had conversations with friends live there about San Antonio's growing homelessness crisis and growing up in Texas. I remember never seen anyone homeless because housing was so cheap there and you could build a mic mansion on a farm somewhere and just live and it's crazy it's crazy. Even my parents like suffer an hour outside of if Chicago. They're saying it's time for a break coming up. We get into the holiday spirit by talking about the flu in that season Turns out. There's a lot you may not know about the flu or the flu shot. 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I'm a journalist with the national desk. NPR covering racing. Identity Kirk Siegler. I'm also a reporter with the national desk alongside. Layla and I cover rural America and the West. You say it's a well rule I it's it's a tongue twister for me rural. Call lots of practice practice. Lots of practice Question for both of Ukraine. Leyla have you gotten your flu. Shot yet yes for the first time. Actually this year is the first year I've ever gotten a flu shot. You're probably going to get the flu. I know right. Actually sorry to be that guy but actually back but it's not quite true men. Have you gotten your flu shot. I did It was at the NPR wellness variables plug employees anyways. It's funny that you bring up the point that you made Kirk There are a lot of misconceptions about the flu and the flu. Shot and a colleague of ours. Recently set to dispel some of those myths talking about Mattie So-fi she is the host of NPR's Daily Science podcast shortwave. Brand new podcast. Really really good science news. It's fun They had an entire episode on the show. All about the flu recently. clarinet misconceptions and telling us. Why didn't that flu shot is the thing you have to do? So here's my chat with Mattie about the Flu Madison Fire. Hi Hello how are you. I'm excellent Sam. You had an entire episode about the flu recently. Recently on shortwave. You took questions from listeners and you had some experts help you answer those questions absolutely. Yeah I talked to a woman named Dr Nicole Bouvier. She's at the ICAHN School of Medicine at Mount Sinai and she not only researches the flu Sam she also treats patients I do. That's kind of like showing awful little bit. Well it's the best of both worlds. I I really liked patients. But I don't like waking up early. So lab is perfect for that so doctor Bouvier knows a lot about what the flu does to our bodies and how scientists are trying to kind of outsmart. Okay I don't know a lot about the flu Like my biggest question for he first and foremost is out of you. Know if you have the flu or just the cold. Yeah it's I mean it's a good question because a lot of the symptoms are really similar so the flu and the cold are caused by two completely completely different viruses But they both infect your respiratory tract so meaning they affect like your mouth your lungs your nose your throat in the cold pretty much only messes with you in that area but the flu on the other hand being the garbage virus that is doesn't stop respiratory track. Ill Messy right up Sam so with influenza so you get sort of what we call systemic symptoms which are things like fever. Lethargy not feeling like eating feeling like you get hit by a truck muscle lakes headaches that really with the common cold you tend not to get I mean I feel like I got hit by a drunk. You know at the end of every work week honestly Sam is worse than that. I'm GonNa tell you so the things she said. The fever is pretty key so not everybody who has the flu gets a fever but doctor told me that if she does see a patient with a fever and a cough during flu season. There's something like an eighty percent chance. That Person Persson has the flu cough fever together during flu. Season the flu. Oh yeah all right. How big is the flu? How many folks get every year? I always hear people dying from the I've never seen someone die. Yeah I mean I think that we forget just like how big of a deal. The flu is so last year. This is kind of a current estimate that might change but the CDC says that forty five million people got sick with the flu last season which is roughly the population of the entire state of California right and it gets a lot of people sick and about sixty one thousand people died last year for the flu. It was a really bad season. And you know the flu and the Monja consistently certainly are in the top ten causes of death in the United States so it is pretty serious. Okay so then the fix for this is more flu shots and I'm supposed to get did I got one this year. in your episode shortwave about the flu. You talked about how that flu shot and vaccine is made it involves eggs. Yeah yes Sam okay so nobody wants me to walk through the entire process of other vaccines. We would die here Sam of old age not the flu old age. I mean you you probably listening to me. Honestly I'm just going to say but but yes. The most common way we make flu vaccine starts with live viruses that are used to infect act act. It takes months. It's a process that's been used for probably about seventy years in a lot of scientists are actually trying to find better ways to make flu vaccines. It's all right. So let's get into some Misconceptions about the flu shot being and I hear this all the time from friends and family. While if I get the flu shot that I might get the flu. Yeah like people think the shot will give them the flu. I mean it's just it's not true so especially for the flu shot specifically when they do process process those eggs after the viruses grown up there are multiple steps of killing the virus in most cases they even bust that up and a tiny little bits and pieces and then kind of scoop the bits that are important for the vaccine so after all that processing is done. There's no live virus left in that flu shot. And even if there was Sam the flu shot goes in your arm influenza viruses are designed or optimized to infect your respiratory tract if you put them somewhere else they're not going to be able to grow the same way that they they are in your respiratory tract and you're not GonNa get the symptoms that you get a Ha- so you. There's no way you can get the flu from a flu. Shot Okay but even if I go through all this go to my doctor's doctor's office get their flu. Go through all the pain. I can still get the flu after the flu shot. Yeah so okay. Mattie was the use of this conversation uh-huh so getting the flu shot. Reduce your chance of getting the flu by about forty to sixty percent not enough when fluids pick the right strains but listen up Sam. It's not the design. This flu shot twice a year. The World Health Organization gets together a bunch of these scientists who share data from like influence surveillance sites throughout the entire world and decide like okay. These are the types of flu. We think are GONNA go round next flu season and then they develop that vaccine but even if you do get the Flu Sam and you've had your flu shot. That flu shot can make the flu less terrible in the people who still get flu despite having the flu shot it actually can make you less sick than you would have been if you didn't get the flu shot at all. You know if you were going to be in bed for three days you might be in bed for two days and time is money Sam. It is that's true and so that's mostly been shown in people that are really high risk for bad flu complications like ammonia. But Dr Bouvier told me it's probably true for just young unhealthy folks like you. Same Sanders healthy. I'm old entire and the last thing you know about the flu and the flu shot Sam that even if you are young and healthy and think like It's a hassle I. I'll be fine if I get the flu. You are the person that could be passing that virus under somebody for whom the flu could be really big deal like a new baby. You'RE GONNA meet Anna Christmas party or your grandmother. People like that. Those people who are at higher risk of complications. You don't WanNa be the one who then goes ahead and gives them the flu. You're not just protecting yourself. You're protecting other people who either can't get the vaccine themselves or for whatever reason they won't respond to it quite quite as well. Don't be that guy. Sam Okay. I believe her. I do last question for you. Matty have you ever had the flu. And if so what kind of patient is Mattie. What kind of sick persons Mattie? Well I get my flu shot every year. Sam Sometimes I yell immune system activate when they they really like what but I do that so I haven't gotten maybe like three years but I do remember being a dream patient very cooperative. Not Stubborn at all. I think I remember being described as graceful and kind. I'm a graduate. I get sick. I'm not sick I was about to say. act like this. podcast this is called shortwave listeners. Listen to it. Every day for Science and fund. All Right Sam appreciate you likewise thanks again to Mattie so fi host of one of NPR's newest podcast shortwave Stanford break now when we come back my favorite game who said that you are listening to. 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NPR national correspondent Senate covering the West and rural issues and layla follow NPR national correspondent covering culture diversity and race. My friends it is time for my who said that really made it to really drag it out I have anxiety about the trivia because last time we failed so miserably twitter stock. Santa got no either either way the paycheck every two weeks tell way can I just carol instead. Oh Fun fact about Kirk and every listeners. Sner should know this Every year around Christmas time Kirk organizers like Carolyn gets a group of folks together and they go door to door snit Christmas thousands yes do logistical and operational issues. This year we make spending it for a year which earns one year I was at Crooks Holiday Party. And he's like all right it's time to go. Caroline and I was not going and I stayed in his house not watch Netflix on his account. They went out to sing anyway. I digress it. y'All know how this game works. I share a quote from the week. You have to guess who said that or get a key word from the story the winner per usual. It's absolutely nothing. Were low budget here at public radio. No buzzers just yell out your answer I quote. Just tell me what we're talking about here. When we saw them today you could see some loose authors in the glue around the hat? It's definitely a concern In the glue around the hat and feathers feathers we're talking about like royalty The royal family. These are the least royal of the Bird Kingdom pigeons. Yes yes Janis Royal Family Mail pigeons. But you don't know why no I have no this story just from your old stomping grounds Las Vegas area. So there's this really crazy story happening out around Las Vegas. Someone is gluing Luoyang tiny multicolored cowboy hats on pigeons has. Oh wait. I did see that I totally forgot. Yes it's bananas and so like there were these videos floating around this week of these pigeons and cowboy hats and the first everyone's like Oh my God it's cute. But then you realize there glued on and that's pretty cruel anyways. That quote comes from a riot hillman. She runs an animal. Rescue Service called lofty and they nurse pigeons and doves back to health and they've been helping Try to figure out what's going on with these pins and the cowboy hat exactly as you keep a pigeon still to carrier pigeons like do they already trained to fly. Get the cowboy hats and you can do that. You know you could theoretically trained carrier pigeon till like fly to the country Western store get a hat fly back. You can't try and we went on its head though true. I don't care how annoying pigeons are you. Don't do that to them. Weird I mean. I hope those pigeons get revenge like they. You better crap all over that house. All right I point goes to Leyla he really competitiveness. All right second quote You can just guess the word that we're we're talking about in this quote I have to say it's surprising to me. It's a word we all know in love so many people were talking about this word hint. It's the word of the year there. Yes Okay Leyla. She came to win. Kirk were you at. I'm sitting right here at home. Not Winning so that quote comes from Peter Sokolski from Merriam Webster Dictionary. He was talking about their announcement this week. That the Merriam mm-hmm Webster Nineteen Word of the year is they They apparently had a three hundred and thirteen percent increase in look ups on Merriam Webster Dot Com this year compared to last year. And we know that they is used increasingly to refer to people who are trans or non binary or gender non conforming and this year has been a big year of acceptance for those in that community. They I'm into it me too. I like to use the word. y'All also not gender-specific very neutral in terms of gender and it's nice and welcoming. I agree all right Last quote this one's Finey This is a fill in the blank. It was a unified command decision to call out a secondary bus to be dispatched to pick up the stranded students and remotely transport to the local. The high school at this time. The incident is being ruled as a prank. As blank was discharged on the bus. What was discharged on this school bus? That made the whole bus to be evacuated thing. Young boys are over. Because we're you know something that young uh-huh teenage boys us a lot to excess and it smells a lot spice breath. Yes axe body spray. There is a teenage nephew. There was on right now. Oh I figured there was a school bus in Paris Florida in which some young kids were trying to pull a prank. They sprayed so much body spray they had to evacuate the bus. A few of the kids had to get treated for a mild respiratory irritation. Everyone was okay but like that's A. Psa of you ever heard one. Oh Yeah Kirk. How old were you when you stop worry next bodies grow? Do I have to answer that. Do you say the past tense. I can say I've never worn axe body. Sarah slather that on and well. It's it's like one of those things it you can't stop and they say on the bottle you can actually spread anywhere so then you spray it everywhere. Okay moving along. Anyway that quote Oh came from the parish fire district in Parrish Florida talking about the school bus in Paris that was fumigated by X.. Bodies Leyla you came into this game very very nervous but I happened to tell you you one thank you yes and you got all three. Can you say she won when technically neither of US really knew do much of the context no no no. I knew that both everyone a and I did. Yeah that's true. I only knew one for real like let's word of the year just like to win new nine sore. All right that concludes who said that my favorite game. Congratulations late. Let you get nothing but bragging rights. Yes yes all right now in the show as we always do each week we ask our listeners to share with us the best thing that happened to them all week we encourage folks to Brag they always do Brent at the tape. Hi Sam this is grace from Meli. The best part about my week was taking my last final for Calculus to neither will have to think about converging are integrating anything at least until early February when I'll be taking in calculus three cheers calculus free holidays. Hello My name is Christina. And I'm calling from Gaithersburg Maryland. This is Megan from Boise. Idaho up this Sarah in Atlanta Georgia. The best thing that happened to me all week was that a new job. The best news I received this week was a job offer Paid it off my car. I graduated from Nursing School. My sister had her first baby. And I'm an anti best. The best part of my week is having my six month. Old Son's fever break I twelve month. Old Daughter slept through the night. Hey Hey Sam. This is Dan in Fayetteville Arkansas. The best part of my week was finally getting home after spending five months and driving. Twelve thousand fifty two miles to visit fifteen the national parks. Your show many great soundtracks with Dr Thanks. Hi Sam this is Laurie from Centralia Washington. The the best part of my week was seeing a short little video of my first great grandbaby and of course. She's the most beautiful granddaughter ever great-granddaughter I'm old anyway. You have a great week salmon everybody there and a great holiday to you. Thanks for the show. Thanks a lot. I isn't that so I like when it's not a kid stuff. That is really my favorite. I love listening to those many. Thanks to all this news. You Heard There Grace Christina. Megan Hagen Sarah Jessica Michelle Erica Katie Liz. Dan and Laurie listeners. Share the best part of your week with this show at any point throughout any any week record yourself on your phone and then send that voice file to me at Sam Sanders at NPR dot. Org Sam Sanders at NPR DOT Org All Right Mama. We made it another episode in the books. It's time to say goodbye to both of you. thank you for being here. Leyla FATO NPR national correspondent covering culture ultra diversity and race Kirk siegler NPR national correspondent covering the West and rural issues. So excited if you hours will be at the holiday party. I have the ugliest rhetoric going to be so excited by it. Is it new. You have like an annual having an attachment to you all right. Thanks for being here. Thanks to the folks that are the best part of my week every week. The folks that help make the show The show was produced. This week by Brent Bachman. who secret is having a birthday very soon? Happy Birthday unruly. I hope you're partying hard right now. are fearless editors. Kitty is Leeann. 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LC Series: School Life Balance  Part 1

Next Up. Student Success!

22:20 min | 11 months ago

LC Series: School Life Balance Part 1

"Hi. I'm Dr Felicia Beden. An executive director at Norfolk State University. And I trust in white, apparent pure liter. This is next up student success. A podcast about tips tools intakes for academics. I everyone, thank you for tuning in. We are so excited to start to things. Actually are two new people or two experiences with the next up suit success Fi. First of all we are starting a new series within the podcast related to learning communities that is such a great episode that we had when we met the learning communities, and also we know that helping our freshman get off to a good start is really important for students success, so we're going to do a whole series targeted to our freshman, everybody can listen to, but that is going to be specifically around learning community concept learning community. He'll of that, and in the second thing that ranchers, today's new producer. Hi Miss Easson. Hi, I'm so excited to be a new producer on this lack as You so Angel East again. Listen to our episode on learning communities. You met her for the first time there and we thought well. We're GONNA have a new series in her area. We show welcome her aboard as a producer to make sure that everything's all connects together. You guys get the best possible information flow welcome aboard the season. Yes thank you. And now we're GONNA get into our learning community summer, self care series. So in the spring semester we hosted a be stress for finals week on Instagram live in. We received positive feedback from our students, staff and faculty at the University, so we decided to continue our self care conversation on this platform. And we do have a special guest with us today Dot Brazil Novels Assistant Professor. Hye Dot novels. Are You doing today? I'm doing well high. So dot novels. Where's home for you? Home is hand Virginia also grew up at Hampton Virginia. Okay? Can you tell us a fun fact about yourself? One particular things that I enjoy doing his comedy. And can you tell us the interesting place where you've done comedy? That's exciting. Yes so a group of friends on I, guess like a trooper truth of dare situation. One of my friends lives in DC. She saw a lot of writing and area superwoman scheme, which will talk about an? She said to me. Let's just go to comedy club and just stand up as open mic night and I did and I want under another name, so I didn't go under my name at that time I was not married did not have children I felt like I had nothing to lose, and it was pre- candidates so. So, it was, it was actually Arctic. If you WanNa, know the truth that talked about family. Actually in that talked about growing up and I, just talked about different things and non. It went over pretty decently to be very honest. Thank you for sharing that dot novels, and can you tell us a little bit about your education and training? Undergraduate Alderman. University masters of social work nothing stay as well as the PhD. In social work in Norfolk state. Is. Can you tell us the most interesting job that you've had in why? Interesting job that I have had on some morbid, but it was. Worked as. In hospice. I worked hospice at the VA part time with his home care agency. I'm an. Why was that? Interest in S. opposes the question. What was interesting about it to me as a young person in their twenties was the fact that. On your deathbed when it's time with new, know your time's running out. The things that you think are important. Are Not. It's connections to people and much what I heard on the s we say on the last days were which had loved more. I was taking care of my sophomore and I wish I was Carl myself and I'm taking more risk. And I'm so. That was my most interesting job that have. Oh. I did have another one. This is interesting has nothing to do social or This shipyard I'd Advertising Ship Notice Summers. They would have students. Were there I was a pipe fitter for some. Best interest interesting job. Yeah! Denominated making that's right. School was definitely here. This everybody's school was certainly a better option I. appreciate people who do that type of work. Honestly because it was hard work now only did it for some. Well my parents used that tactic on us as well. We did a Lotta gardening. Do would we have to go? Parliament. Best my incentive for you guys not stay here. Quick Finish quick after his youth in Britain a half years. Out. Great well, thank you so much for that so coach now we want to get a little bit more specifically into your current position at How long have you been at Norfolk state? I'm going into my third year. Okay, and so, what's your current position? Like? What are your duties de? Teach classes my current duties. Title is I'm the mass of social program director. Okay it may. Because most incoming freshmen are not gonNA. Know what that means. So in the School of social work. We have three programs undergraduates, which is the bachelor of social. There's a director for that I. Am the Graduate People Pursuing Students Persona Interesting? A masters of social work I am the program director over that program. We also have a doctorate of philosophy. PhD Program those that want to pursue an advanced degree beyond the masters. Program Director, so that three program directors and program. A day teach classes I do Korean directors teach one class or two panel the need and at one class? But what class? What class you off the classes that I teach are in the Grad. School graduate school is human behavior. but I have taught as an adjunct faculty in undergraduate, which I taught social welfare policies class for the undergraduate shot up. My understanding is that you wanted to talk today with our audience about a specific concept related to your expertise in background. About that concept before we get into what are the tips tools and takes related to that? Was A superwoman Schema is not new to the literature or research. Honestly people want public health in nursing. Interested in have noticed phenomenon for many years is. Is when and I'll give you the KANDIEF mission, but it's perceived obligations remain silent about feelings of distress or ability to present an image of strength for families communities and take on the while simultaneously taken all the needs of others, so in a nutshell is where someone is, and that's why the super warming, because there's no such person as a superwoman and you're not taking care of yourself, but you're taking care. Others needs so first of all. Where does your interest come in like? How did you learn about that? How does that? How do you use that concept to help people in your? Profession Wow will tell you for four. The practitioner for twenty years before answering office state at worked in school social are in private practice, so I've done a lot in my little town around this moon, but what I have seen even with students that work with undergraduate graduate students. It's not slaving people within a by as may also males in our in our side, but females women tend to take on a lot if his caregiver if it's working if it's motherhood would have you if it's the breadwinner in their family, even undergraduates people who are going to school I mean we have Nas Estate? A Plethora of different. Types of students, but we have some students who are are the breadwinners and the caretakers of their family members due to disabilities in such. So this is interesting to me in part because again. You're bringing in your expertise on this topic and we're going to translate that into. Action, that freshman can take for example to succeed in the classroom. So how does that translate? What's a tip that you would share with an incoming freshman woman? Young woman are older. What we as you said. We have students of all ages. The how would that translate into a tip for success? How how does acknowledging are recognizing that concept to help a student to succeed? Well I think the first of all is acknowledging. You cannot do it. All many of US ended rich in a miniature at I know the students here must in Stockton, novels put it is is that we know that we know such a time as this that we need each other, and for anyone to think that they are successful, or they had done well because of their own just by themselves is such a, nor we need each other, so the first thing is as I say to the students who have concerns with writing. We have a writing. If you don't ask, we don't melt like S. If they're concerned as far as I've never been to one of the things that we certainly hear an African American community. People all in my business, especially as it relates to mental health concerns, we'll guess what when you walk around, and you're over well, and you look tax tired deflates. We all can see it. You need to get help. If, you were asthmatic or had a heart condition, you will go and get help. There's nothing in my opinion. You'll mental health and your physical health altogether. They're they're really really really together and I know that Mrs Smith. We'll talk about that next session. About how that affects is far as with cardiovascular hypertension and obesity and such, but the mental health and I say the statement. I'm a coin. 'cause I haven't been a need to mental. Health is tenuous best meaning every day. Many of us could have a mental health concerns that could take us all the way to the point. We're not functioning wine I think oftentimes off I. Have Seen Students in you. Don't tie. Tie this end with students who are eighteen nineteen twenty years old, but they have the weights of the world's on their shoulders, and we can see it and many professors. You know who is everything. Okay? You know so that type of thing so the asking for help. We have a lot of things at allstate within our campus that I don't think a lot of people are aware of to help. That's great, so the first tip is cleese. Let us know because we can't help if we don't know is. You know that you have specific needs so as you were saying. Another indicator is not just that you look worn out, but sometimes people lash out. You know the absolutely. I was GONNA. Say That, yes, absolutely. Into I. Mean we are perceived race of being angry. Angry going off, but much of that is of course a systemic racism that we had such a time since we realized that we walk in the world differently as we get ready in the morning is almost like a as a student sets me in the literature speaks. I'm putting on masks. And I'm trying to decide what Matt's to put on McDonnell too angry. Make smiling, and even when I'm not okay into Sam okay. Many of us are trained to say were okay how you doing this morning? All I'm okay, fine great. So it, so the first tip is to let like to acknowledge that. Needs the village and So K to let us know and take advantage of resources. Is there a? Tip especially for the summer so as In the world right now is we know protest, and of course systematic racism is not new, but is something specific that that students any student whether they're freshman or not can do in the summer especially this summer. Say I'M GONNA. Tell You doc? This is not home over well with the students turn all social media. Become unplugged Agra up with a obviously to the computer labs. Papers. Honestly so I'm not so tied to my electrical device, but become unplugged in plug and see yourself. If I. What do I mean by that? It was a day of blackout yesterday, so many people. went away from the electrical devices, but I'm suggesting that you do that, not just. One day, but a couple of days. Why because the mind as a have a chance to turn off? And, honestly we talk about excising honestly I want to city at exercise more as I'm sitting telling you to do that, but taking a walk in breathing in honestly mindful full meditation exercises and have a Monja apple watches. Get any their free. Just taking time Sabrina just taking time if it's nothing but. Ten minutes. Have you do it once a day and just to desist deal I mean honestly as thanks chaotic as we know that they are. Life is what it is. But if you do not take care of the vessel, to which are charged with which is your body, mind and Ben Is often so taking care of that, which is becoming unplugged from all the social device secluded TV. The and that's in. This is a great time to form that habit the one of the things that Ms Weiss. Producer on the podcast and I have focused on in the regular series. Is What are the success habits? We can start this summer so that by the time the fall comes. You know we're. We've already got a lot. Every day students can take ten minutes. You can just. UNPLUG everything. Just Saint Relax. Why even music necessarily just get into the habit of resetting yoursel resource, your goals one of our guests from the last podcast Dr Ferguson with talking about how focusing on your goals and was of interest to you. We'll help you to stay focused on assignments in classes is. Tied together. At another one along with is that and I tell students this weather Grad undergrads is saying principle. Once again students. That off. I'm probably a lot of ways, but I want you to hear me. Plan your schedule, Nail. Many of you have already registered. You know you have classes on whatever Monday Wednesday Friday, in a wonderful colleague professor now Collie to me now sets me planning your laboratory time planning your study time in your schedule already. You sit in elaborate. A wherever you're is what you study and look at Scott. Make sure that's the routine that you have that way. You're not the worst NFC. This is the procrastination waiting to the last minute and you cram and everything so the body's stress. You're not giving me sleep your. You're irritated. in your own family environment on it, and these are things that could have been mitigated in the sense that I'm soon. This will say I'd have enough time to do the paper. I didn't have time to do. Xyz, will now you introduced to a document called syllabus? It tells you everything that's do even professor changes the dates. To make it longer or give you enough time you kind of get some of the assignments out of the way. And I think that's a a wonderful technique that has carried many students and attacks when all these electrical devices you can put reminders and now waiting to the last minute to do your reading and ask to the reading. Many of us like classes. We have e books readable books. I'm you could just pop in the ear buds and read the the various chapters. Even why rob you can pop it in, you know so finding ways to help you out of the upcoming semester. Fatima space for you to commuter finding a space you to do your work now for the summer. Carmelo area. If. The dorms I mean on honest space there when it's time for you I mean I don't want. students do not have a personal life. I think that's very important, but remember the eyes of the prizes to get a degree. Time Absolutely that's your reinforced so many things that we talked about which is amazing, which means actually students for incoming freshmen especially. Here at more than was. It's probably something you really need to do. This right as right. That's right. And then also another point to be made for incoming freshmen. The concept of the syllabus is totally new. We're going to be learning about that in orientation in our welcome for it is your responsibility to make sure you know what is on the syllabus confessed the road map for the whole class. So that's a tool can be really important. For for class except. I would like to say this. Iraq up and his is from people who have. Since gone. From this world. After Malcolm left went to Mecca came bag. His whole mantra was about peace working together Dr King March. She didn't mark with marched just black people, and as we see now we're all coming together. That's a beautiful thing and I hope we don't lose that and to know that we are all here. No, no matter what the message is heard from other people who don't understand that we all just want to live together and in harmony, and said no this to takeaway ease. Take care of yourself. Take care of your mind body and soul, and if it gets to be too much. Then? You have the right to walk away for ten minutes. You have the right to take care of yourself. That's old to you. one thing good about how Working together with other people is that the brunt of everything is not shared by just one person. We all have a responsibility to do better. Let's just simply to better. Thank you thank you so much. That was really a great really in the moment in terms of what's happening in the world, and we really appreciate your insights in your your willingness to join us for this podcast. Thank you so much I love it. Asked me anytime hi George. Thank you, ladies. Yes thank you for sharing got the novels I think the tips in the two that you shared regarding student span the superwoman in their families in their communities. Is definitely important. A, you also share that we have resources on campus on one of those resources happens to be the learning communities program for for students, and within the learning communities program. The students therapeutically take classes together. They live together, and then they participate in extracurricular co curricular activities, so that is a resource that I do want to share with our incoming students that they do have the option to sign up to be a part of a learning community for the academic year so again. Thank you got nevels. Be Our special guest today on our learn candy series regarding self-care. Up Student success was created by Dr. Clearly Shiben for the Doctor Patricia Lip Stiff Student Success Center at Norfolk State University a unit of the Office of academic engagement. Next up is produced and hosted by Dr Medicine and trust in White. With Dean. by Dr Shirley Bennett. Make sure to tune in each week and for more information. visit up. Dash Student Success Dot Org. 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AEE 1407: An Awfully Good Episode About Oxymorons in English

All Ears English Podcast | Real English Vocabulary | Conversation | American Culture

15:52 min | 10 months ago

AEE 1407: An Awfully Good Episode About Oxymorons in English

"This is an all ears. English podcast episode one, thousand, four, hundred, seven in awfully good episode about oxymorons in English. Welcome to the all ears English. podcast downloaded more than one hundred fifty million times. Are you feeling stock with your English? We'll show you how to become fearless and fluent by focusing on connection, not perfection with your American hosts, Lindsey McMahon the English adventurer and Michelle Kaplan The New York radio girl, coming to you from Colorado and new. York City U S A. Have you ever heard natives say almost exactly or same difference today we dive into the topic of Oxymorons, and how you can use your understanding of this to elevate your commentary and connection in English. Hey, Lindsey how's it going Hey Michelle doing well happy to be here. How about you? What's going on? Same Yeah everything's Good I've been getting out a little bit more lately, so that's good enjoying the weather. Mark good stuff good. I'm glad to hear that also. Yeah so Lindsey. We're excited about today's episode because it's so much. I recently had a student asked me about what an oxymoron and. so oxymoron This is such a fun topic. It's fun to think about. It's fun to talk about it, so we're GONNA. Talk about. Iran's Today and we'll give you some really fun wants to use and think about. Yeah. I love this. I think about these a lot just on the just walking around, just thinking about language. Yeah kind of language, nerd and sometimes I think people do use these and we don't realize that they're on. Absolutely absolutely, that's what's so much fun about it and sometimes people say things are an oxymoron like as a joke or Right yeah yeah. So, yeah, so we're GONNA. Talk about oxymorons today and we'll tell you what they are in just a second, but before we do that Lindsey. What do I want to tell our listeners guys? We want to remind you that you can get the transcripts for episode and every episode delivered to your email Inbox in pdf format, so if you sign up at all ears English dot com slash subscribe that the really good way to get on that list, and we will email you every Monday the episodes for the upcoming week, so you have them and. And you can also get a sneak peek on what we're going to cover that week. which is pretty cool, I shall yeah. Oh, for Sure I. Love that. Okay, so go on over and get those. Yes, let's get into. What is an Oxymoron Lindsay okay, so it is a group of words that are opposites I've heard it being called a contradiction in terms like this idea of yeah, they contradict, and they form a new meaning ride, but they contradict each other. It's usually a short sentence where each word in the sentence contradicts the other. Right, right right right right and you know some people will note. This is what we were about a second ago. That something is an oxymoron in conversations. As. A form to connect or find humor with someone. Yeah and so some things that aren't necessarily thought of as oxymorons, but you say it and you're like Oh. That's an oxymoron like yeah, trying to think of an example for that, maybe if you're. Talking about someone and you say oh. Sarah was quiet today and somebody would say quiet Sarah. That's an oxymoron. Oh I, see what you mean kind of making fun of someone on a Dab. YEA, that makes. So, yeah, so sometimes. We use it in that way, but. There also just regular oxymorons Lindsey said. You don't necessarily realize that they are oxymorons, but they're good to know because they're grouped meaning so I would actually argue that I think they're more like an idiom because they're the mind as a group definition rather than by each word itself I see kind of like chump. Right right right right? Hey, maybe it'll be easier if we let our listeners what some examples are here, so they're going to. Get into this yeah? Lucky for you, we have having Sam. Okay well, when doing my research on oxymorons I, chose a few that I thought were the most fun and interesting, so let's go through them, so Lindsey. What's the first one? Okay, so this one? I've been seeing a lot of Leonie this year in twenty twenty alone together and this. Was this a hash tag on twitter? Yeah I. Think I think it's a big HASHTAG. The pandemic the home. So I I've just seen it everywhere alone together, and it's actually an oxymoron. This has been interesting this spring. How people did you feel that way like you felt closer to the people in your life? You know that maybe then before, even though you couldn't be with them. I kind of felt that in the beginning. Yeah, I was talking to. I mean I. Think we did episodes about might about this? How how you know? I was actually speaking to friends more frequently than usual. Even though I don't even live near them, so I won't have been seeing them anyway, but for some reason, the pandemic really brought that out. Yeah, yeah, I've experienced that too. And some of that has continued. Some of it has dropped off like my niece was calling me every day for a couple of weeks every two. Three weeks I'm like. Oh what happens. So yeah, it is kind of interesting 'cause you're alone, so you're not with anybody, but then a look together is your what people so alone together is an oxymoron, but you know by just this alone together means we're by ourselves, but we're together in it like in a more. metaphorical sense being yeah, yeah, and this with this one it's it's on purpose, right? It's meant to be an oxymoron right and there's other ones that you'll see where maybe they don't intend to make actually more on, but here I think they're trying to right right right right right right, and then there's bittersweet. That's combining bitter and sweet, so we actually did. I don't even know if technically I mean it must be an oxymoron, even though it's one word. It is idea. Yeah, but it's also a flavor that people genuinely used to communicate to write for sure so and we talked about this word on episode eleven fifty four, which is, are you happy? Sad or both how to express a bittersweet feeling so definitely listen to that one. Yeah, that's a good one. That's all about guys helping you communicate these nuances a feeling, right? We don't want you to just say one kind of feeling. It's not black and white I. sometimes there ought gray space in how you're feeling or how you're experiencing something, so you wanna be able to stay that stuff. Yeah, for sure for sure. Okay all right now. These ones I'm really excited about. These are fun. Okay so. He's got a funny actually when you. About this on so original copy. So that doesn't make any sense because if you're making a copy of it original. Right exactly, so, but people say that like. Can you save the original copy, or can you send me the original copy? Yeah, okay, so if you wanted to get around this, you could take and you say. Send me the original version I guess right of something. Right or you could just say yeah. Can you send the original right the original? Yeah, right because the original copy. It's redundant away actually of yet so weird. What about the next one? The next one is awfully good. Do you ever hear people say that? Yeah, for sure for sure. It's funny because when they're put together. It makes sense awfully just intensifies good, but when you look at it separately, it is an oxymoron right right, right, awful and good. But I. Mean People Do say this guy? So even though it's an oxymoron oxymoron I recommend using these because you want to fully express yourself in English and these are natural things that people say even if you WanNa say to somebody. Oh, you shouldn't say original copy because it's more. No, no, no, these are used. Yeah, this episode is not about avoiding oxymorons route knowing when you're using one and just having fun with it you. Can even be a conversation starter. It's funny. Yeah, for sure sure and then the next one is old news. News by definition is why it's a contradiction in terms by definition, news is not old. It's new. I love it. Yeah, so you could say something like you didn't know that they broke up. That's old news. Yeah, good intonation! Do I like that. What how? This one's good pretty ugly? Pretty. We've done episodes on pretty as a way to say very ride guys. If you haven't listened to those episodes, come back to English. Dot Com and type pretty in the search bar. Okay, but how is this? An Oxymoron well pretty is beautiful and ugly is not. But here it's not being used as like beautiful ugly. It's being used as like. Lindsey was saying like pretty in the sense of. At like vary right? Yeah, totally so the Mike Got Pretty ugly towards the end. They wouldn't stop insulting. Each other pretty ugly like quite ugly right? Yeah, and this is used very frequently to say Oh, things. It was pretty ugly for a while, but it's Ok now or something like that is us all the time as a as. I love this next one almost exactly. Can, you give us an example Michelle, so that's almost exactly what I said has ideas are a bit different. Yeah again nothing wrong with saying this it does make you sound very natural, but just know that you're contradicting yourself and what you're saying that. If you want the transcripts from today in every episode, but you don't have an IOS device than subscribe by email to get the pdf version mailed to you every Monday morning for the upcoming week gotta all ears English dot com slash subscribe to sign up today. All ears English dot com slash subscribe. Okay I like this one a lot plastic silverware. Let's use plastic silverware for the party. What's silverware? Silverware is. What you used to eat with. It's like cutlery, but it usually is silver. Medal Yeah. Right, and so we call it silverware, so, but it's not plastic so just a plastic silverware. It doesn't really make sense right, but the reason we say this is because silverware just like Kleenex right. That term has expanded out to mean a thing, not just a just a way. It's like the whole example of Kleenex. We actually can I have a Kleenex. Instead of economic issue issue term is tissue, but the brand is Kleenex, but it got into the mainstream lucky brand looking saying I was just I was just GonNa plan and episode about that. Remember to do that? I definitely love that. There's a lot of things like that okay. I won't say them all now because I don't give it away for. You Right in the, it's not a brand, but it is like. A A material that originally, and probably also aware was made of silver riot, probably original originally and now just use that to mean what we eat with. Yeah, right right right. Okay, awesome, and we'll do one more for fun. It's same difference Oh. My Gosh, this one's great i. hear kids say this a lot a lot of times, you yeah. Yeah, for sure same difference, it's like Oh, it's basically like saying the same. It's the same thing. I'm difference. This is one that I maybe might not say. I feel like this one. I would maybe advise against it because it. I feel like it does Kinda mark you as maybe younger or a little less educated? What do you think? Do you disagree with me and that's what I. Know I know. I'm trying to think difference I I think that I would say and I don't know that I say it a lot, but it didn't. It didn't register to me when I was making this list as something. That's like that's not something that people yeah. Yeah, yeah, you may not say I personally a lot, but I see what you're saying about. Maybe pounding like for our younger person like a kid or something like that I can see that being more frequently for them, but I don't think it's a terrible thing to say. Yeah, fair enough. We'll stick with that. No guys use your own judgment. Yeah, for sure so these are really common thing. I mean we hear them everywhere. I liked the today Michelle. We've chosen very common ones. You know ones that we could have done more high level and clever ones that you guys would never here, but these are ones. You're going to hear all the time Oh. Yeah, that is that's the point of the skies. You can actually use these. And like I said they can be a joke as well how it gave the example about Sarah like or I could say oh, my daughter is such a baby, and and I could say really that sounds like an oxymoron to me. Calm in that case. It's not necessarily, but you make. You are trying to say something. You're trying to say that. Babies are never calm. They right yeah exactly so I'm making a joke comment on that. Yeah, and I could say that I vaguely remember making a comment like this in my native conversation in the last few months I don't remember what I said, but I remember making some kind of comment and saying that something wasn't oxymoron. Yeah. You can take your understanding of this concept and make a statement about something. Then we really get to a higher level of connection. I love that right right so just saying. Oh, that's an oxymoron. That shows a high level of commentary. So that's great, so guys. The takeaway for today is used as you know. Listen for them and think is something oxymoron. Is it something you should comment on? We only could get to a few today, but there are so many we could do other episodes so. Even think of what other oxymorons you hear. Ask us about on. Try using them. Yeah Yeah and also get curious about English. This is a way this would be a good brain habit. You know what I mean to dig into words when you hear yourself saying them or you hear someone else saying them dig into them and think about them. That's going to immediately increase your fluency because it's what's going on in your head when you're not actually speaking of more what creates that fluency. Hersher I. Oh I love that Lenzi. Oh, my Gosh! This is so much fun and they're very idiomatic. Bring them up at parties and these make me laugh so. There are good conversation starter, and yeah, use it today. Guys, I'm sure that we've used oxymorons in our conversations in our thirteen hundred episodes fourteen hundred that we've done so far, so make sure you get those transcripts. You can find those oxymorons. Let us know when we've used them right, so go to all English dot. com slash subscribe to get them in your email inbox every Monday morning. Who Okay! This has been fun Lindsey. Thanks for chatting with me. Today all right sounds good Michelle talk to you soon. Hi! 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Jenny James & Ho Dagger

The Loudini Rock and Roll Circus

25:17 min | 2 years ago

Jenny James & Ho Dagger

"Today on the Lou Dini rock and roll circus. We're going to meet Jenny James and ho dagger. So stick around guys, you're listening to the Lou Dini rock and roll circus changing rock history. One podcast at a time. Art, everybody. Welcome back to the Lucchini rock and roll circus. My name is Lou Lombardi, aka Lou Dini. I'm your host today. And today as I said at the top of the shell we are going to be meeting, Jenny James and ho dagger here. Great rock and roll, just, like I know you guys like so stick around, you're going to join it. But first, let's do a little bit of podcast business. Our website is Lou Dini, rock and roll circus dot com. Please check back often this tons of cool podcast, including interviews like this one guitar casts, all kind of live videos that we do, as well as our weekly live show on rock ridge radio as well as classic ninety two point three and that's called the Lou Dini hard rock and metal circus. You can find out more information Lou Dini, rock and roll circus dot com. As I was mentioning, we have native San Diegan. On the line here Jenny. She was raised in household with no music badgen that port. That's like child abuse start listening to the radio or late teens and didn't start seeing writing into our twenty's. She's natural born story teller, so she started writing country songs and had her own band recently, however, Jenny teamed up with southern California. Punk icon, Jose Cruz of mail order brides, and doom comedy electric chair fame dead. Queen is an EP of crew songs produced by cruise long journeys husband Chaz ferry who has worked with David Bowie Iggy pop Quincy Jones. Wow, there's a great resume, right there in dish into writing and recording music Jenny is a college professor teaching English literature Jenny. Welcome to the login rock and roll circus. Thank you nice to be here from, let's say hi to ho dagger. Good morning. How you doing? Or after noon, where you are. Oh, great to have you guys on. Nice to be here. So let's the so that we can kind of get this relationship straight before we get too far into the stories. Ho Jenny like what is the are you? How are you the producer? You're the guitar player. What's the and Jenny? You're obviously the singer. So what's the sort of relationship? How does this work? Between you two. Well, I I was a country singer, and then my, my husband happened to play a demo for ho that I had done a rock song. And so he heard it and said, hey, hey, this has potential. So I decided to give rock a try and a ho wrote, these great songs that are just great. And I'm I've had a great time Sam. Okay. Art are so we're getting the picture here. Okay. Now. Let's, let's talk a little bit about Jaas taco, take a little bit of a step back here and talk a little bit about your background here. Because you started didn't even get into music until your late late teens. How did so what, what kicked it off? Like, how did you get bit by the bug as they say? Wow. Well, actually, I was an actress before I was a singer. So. I was working with this coach. And she told me, he said, hey, you should write a song as part of your therapy. And so I, I kinda did that. And that's how it started. I just I she said, you got it. Go get it produced. And so I did. And then I started working with the studio owner, and I had a the band that came in and to do the demise start to work with them. So it was bitten by the studio bugs or shore. So it said that you take to the songwriting thing kind of naturally then. Yeah, wow. Because what I'm hearing is good. Sounds frigging. Awesome and talk a little bit about this trance. This transferring from the country sort of thing to the rock thing, 'cause like this is when we're gonna play this for Ferdie audience in a few minutes here, and this is real rock. This isn't like you know, you know, as Pat Tom petty said bad rock with a fiddle. This is like real rock and roll that you're about to hear. Trust me guys, in my audience knows, I'll plenty bullshit when it comes to rock and roll. So how how, how did you did you were you were you like, totally cool with country or your ordered you? Did you always sort of feel like maybe you were talk about it? Well, I kind of went into country, just out of because of storytelling. But rock rock gets the motions man. So actually, I'm having a lot more fun right now doing this. Okay. Cool and ho-? Why don't we talk a little bit? Let's, let's meet you for me, buddy. So give us a sort of Reader's Digest version about your background and your passion for music as well. I mean, it's something that's kind of encompassed my existence since I was probably, you know, very, very young like four or five years old. And I kind of became an audio file, probably one of the seminary, so I you know, luckily, by chance I grew up in a military household. My father brought home. Does he started in the spiders from Mars actually, in seventy two? He bought it from the navy exchange and I just grew up like lake in Bowie in the who and because Bowie such a great name dropper. You know, he'd say listen to something, and I liked what he did so much that, you know, you would go and listen to the kinks in, you would let to the pistols and bow house. And you would listen to Scott Walker in the Walker brothers, and the, the moment that I was had the ability to play an instrument. I did. So I can play just about everything. And when I was about eighteen I was in a band with. The Mark Ford who was in the black Crowes. Yeah. And, and Jimmy Asher to played with his strategy win and played with but cherry and has played with Joe cocker and a bunch of cats. And we had a band and the guy we ended up recording with was Chaz which wet Turkey studio in LA where, you know, bunch of great records were done, and I just had a relationship with him. They kind of got cut short, but business stuff. And then we just kind of reconnected, you know, probably about twenty years ago or fifteen years ago. And I just, you know, I love the studio. I'm a songwriter kind of just because, you know, when you when you're kidding, you're in a band lot of cats like the standard on cool, where funny shoes, but they don't necessarily want it put in kind of that extra work, so I became a songwriter by default that became a guitar player by default. I learned how to play drums because. Nobody else would get up and do it. So I just kind of did it that way. And, you know, it's a lot of the stuff I do informed by, you know, Roxy music in Bowie and the, you know, the stooges in a big way, and then when the punk thing came along, it was a very natural thing, especially early stuff was obviously derivative of the velvets in Bowie and stuff. So is very easy connection and a very easy at adoption into that stuff. So I just always did that. And I I've known Jenny for quite a while, and she kinda just would hang out when we recording and me and shotgun a lottery courting together. And I was always super jealous of the fact that she, she, she didn't know anything, you know. Okay, because it's no think about it. It's like here I am. And I'm loaded with this information. I've got so much kind of artistic information that. Sometimes it's hard to start the car, you know what I mean, because you only got so much room right here was this in here is this person who has the ability to experience the things that I experienced as a child. Absorb it. And if I get to watch your experience for the first time, so and a lot of ways you jealous, because you're like, man, I remember how that feels and I'm jealous, you know, I, I, I wanna feel that way, again, you know, because once you, you know, you got Bowie in the Beatles, and the Rolling Stones and the small faces and all these things, and then you know, you listen to the radio today, and unfortunately, it's very hard to, to get it kind of equal experience. I you know, so it's a it was great to work with her. And in the I, I she sang in a range of the my songs of I didn't have to really ever change a key or anything and she's saying, and she's saying them. Well, you know what I mean? It's like to me, I choose she, she kind of reminded me of sort of kind of a Chrissy Hines kind of Alta pitch, and it just worked real naturally, and I started showing her song. She started saying it was pretty simple. It wasn't. It wasn't hard work. So she, she's a, so she's a natural when it came to what you know, when you're sorta, so you heard her, and you sort of cata vision for what this singing could be. I think I think my vision was probably a bit more childlike not as developed just a matter of that. Wow. You know, somebody else sing in one of my songs join it really well having a slightly different angle on you. And, you know, well, let's say what we're gonna do. We're going to have listened to the result right now. This is dead Queen and guys this is a great frigging song. You guys are gonna frigging love this. I was because Melissa sends me these bands. And I'm just not expecting like real rock and roll. It's like the one in a million that she sends me something that's real rock and roll. It was found to happen. Sound like I was like, oh, I gotta killing tweet these guys. So I check I this is Jenny James ho dagger dead, Queen on the Dini rock and roll circus. Don't. One. Good. Don't you? Show news. Those you may. Can't take. Cedar. The queens. The. Draft to. Cheap. Now. Bad ass is all I can say with that, Jenny what I really love about that is I love how vicious the band is. And you are not you don't over sing anything like it's just. It's still it has a conversational kind of style to the singing. But it works absolutely perfect. It's, it's a very Chrissie Hinde approach. I super me being because you don't hear Chrissy Hines going, you know what I mean. She's very, very contained you know. So it's, it's nice. It's nice it's a good checks position. You know it's kind of ironic. You got this vicious kind of bull. You will you rock and roll inside and this person singing, Ono's, you know, and very kind of Djelic weights. Yeah. So, yeah, it's kind of, like, you know, like almost like a devil-may-care kind of, like approach to the to the vocals, kind of this is what I'm saying. Whatever. Yeah. Lil is possible. Yes, it's solely. Cool. So. What you've had a bit of journey Jenny from acting country music. What is kind of like, Swiss sort of drives, you what is your sort of passion? What is the kind of gets you going with this? Well, I'm I'm an artist to the Gore's. So for me, it's just I just get lost in the sound of the of the music. You know it's the it's I was deaf when I was young actually till I was about six awhile. So, so the studio with headphones on like this is just that's his close as I can get back to that. And so it's kinda natural for me to just get lost in sound like this. Do you what are is something, you guys are gonna do live or says just strictly studio situation right now? It studio, but I'm kind of open to going out again. Yeah. So, okay. And let leads me to the next question, which is what's the future? What is the next six to twelve months look like Jenny Janssen Hodak? Well, I think we're going to produce more songs actually. Excellent. So, yeah. Nothing specific. Okay. I you know, some people are like, oh, you know, we're talking the world or whatever. Wilders the trilogy. Lou, I guess me. We've, we've decided this time we're going to record on a mountain top. It's stuff like that's pretty simple. I mean you know, that's what you're saying is true. You know you just kind of go in and do it. You know there's a lot of philosophy behind it. You know, it's more like throwing punches got you Jenny. What would you like if you could say anything to, you know, the people out there listening potential fans, you know what, what, what do you wanna say, what, what anything that's come into your mind that you want to let people know about this project, this amazing project that you have. Well, just let it rip man. Just glad it rip. I sometimes we need songs to get us through tough times. And so this stuff really does help and I can't thank enough for writing it as it really does help. How can we find you guys? What's the best way to find guys like on the internet? So we can keep up with the maybe with the trilogy or whatever you have coming out. Spotify probably the best place. And I tend to but is there a is there a direct like website or anything that you guys have, like Jenny James dot com or something, or you don't have anything like that? James dot org. This is Janet, James dot org. You do have website. Okay. Cool people can go there and see what the heck's going on. And keep up with more music to might have come an awesome. Okay. Cool. All right. And so how do you balance this between just real quick? As this came to me bounces between this and your other life. College professor. Well, you know, I work really hard on that for a number of months. But now I'm in summer right now today's my first day of summer so finals are over and your. Yeah. Yeah papers. Graded everything. That's right. So it's music. Does any of that influence year? Your creative side. The, the English ledger stuff. Is it separate for, you know, it does I teach creative writing too, so? Yeah, no, I actually use everything. I'm teaching them to right. So, yeah. Hey good, cool, arson, 'cause I was the English English major in many years ago. So. So great to be on with you. Great, great greats meet all you guys. Great to meet you Jenny. Great to meet you. Ho. Jenny James dot org. Correct. Yeah. All right. Stick around I need to wrap up the podcast. I buy need to do a little business with you when we're done here. So if you guys getting off for one minute, okay. All right. Guys Jenny James ho dagger chest, absolutely killer piece of music. They're dead Queen. You guys can find that all over Spotify and apple music, and all that stuff, Jenny James dot org is the website and you can looks what was that? And how has an album mono jalek coming out. Right. K yeah. Yeah. It's model thirteen minutes. Ammo in. OD. E. L U X. All right. Guys do not miss hose record either. Because, you know, if if these guys work together, you know, it's awesome. And would ho does is absolutely killer, as well. So check it out guys. You've been listening to looney rock and roll circus. If you would like to get a little more up close and personal. If you would like access to some exclusive music, exclusive video exclusive conversation, become a part of a community that is really passionate about great guitar driven rock. I highly recommend that you go to Lou Lombardi rocks dot com. That is Lou Lombardi rocks dot com. We don't even need your Email address, you'll get right into our private group with a lot of cool people. There's a great discussions going on throughout the day everyday. Great music being uploaded, their great place to talk, you get to get the inside scoop on a lot of cool stuff having to do with great guitar driven rock. You can find out about that at Lou Lombardi rocks dot com. Guys, thank you so much for hanging out with us. Today special thanks to James and ho dagger for being here and we will get you guys all on the next Ledeen rock and roll circus. Okay, real quick. Could we do a tag germ? Okay. You guys what to tell us. Some newbies, don't know. So I always ask them we, we don't know over here. I I don't wanna tag is. Oh, okay. Jenny attack. You say something very short until ever. Yeah. You've heard, you know that, you know, you know, this is Led Zeppelin, and you're listening to, you know, w whatever you know that type of thing. So you're gonna say, you know, and you guys see if you could time it 'cause you're not insane to go on how you guys going to do it. You know this is Jenny James. This is ho- dagger, and you are listening to the Lou Dini rock and roll circus. So I don't know who wants to say what? Just saying this is ho- dagger just say this is Jenny. You do the rest. The rest. This is Jenny James by dagger and you are listening to the Lou Dini rock and roll circus. Right. You're right at it. You got it. You are listening to the Lou Dini rock and roll circus. I will count. You guys in from five to one will be silent. Okay. Here we go as ready. In five four three. This is Jenny James dagger. Can you are listening to the Ledeen rock and roll circus? Excellent good. Now, you tag is when you do the next interview, you know, the guy tell you know, you'll know exactly what I know how to do that. Lou this Jenny's husband Chaz is Chaz am I to hit you up if I go to your website, and get an Email, if I wanted to communicate with you further. I yes, in fact, I'll give you my Email, and I was going to ask for your Email as well, because we'll send this to Melissa when we're done when we get it all together, but I would like to reach out to you, as well, because I have a couple of bonus things I send to out we have we have dishes mastermind. Free. You know some few things like that. So we can say info on that. So my, my Email address, let me know when you're ready to you. I'm ready. It's Liu at Liu Lombardi music dot com. Velu. Yes. Is there way that I could send you my record? Absolutely. I would love to have your record just did you get. If you get that Email. I'll get it from Chas. He's the one who listens. Right. Us musicians. Or like we don't have time for any of that nonsense writing shit down. Okay. And what is a best Email address for you guys, Jenny? That's going to be Chaz. CHA S, H A at, at Hollywood tracks Hollywood TR, a x dot com. Lee. Would T R A X dot com here. Yeah. I have I have a music publishing business at a at a production music library. So I would love to maybe hook in with some of your other artists to help them. Get sink fees on TV for their stuff. Sounds. Sounds great. In fact, maybe we should do. Chaz is maybe do short interview with you at some point and put it out there. So people can, you know, get an understanding of exactly what that is. So you can kind of, like, you know, tell it to the world. Absolutely. And I have some great stories too of. Oh, cool awesome, awesome. I my first job working assistant engineer was with Iggy pop doing theme song to repo, man. I bet that was a party. Okay. Cool chaz? Well, we will. I will send this out to you guys here, it takes about a week before we get everything out. And then we'll we'll get in touch him. We'll get everything worked out. Okay. Thanks a lot. I'm glad we were able to get everybody on it's worked out. Great. Now, I learned how to do this. So I'll be able to do. You can do the statler brothers now. Yeah. Because I'm getting right on that. All right. Guys. Guys, have great rest of the day talk, too soon. So you. It's the statler brothers. You guys are crazy.

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Cynthia Bailey & Vivica A. Fox

Watch What Happens Live with Andy Cohen

24:25 min | 1 year ago

Cynthia Bailey & Vivica A. Fox

"Welcome to the Bravo clubhouse for the podcast edition of Watch. What happens live with me? Andy Cohen UH. She made your heart race in kill Bill. And she's practically racing down the aisle to become Mrs Mike L.. It's live with Cindy availa investigate Fox. Now now it on your own Andy Cohen. And the guys who came to turn looks and get urged before she gets married next year. My first guest. Just try to make her wedding house tag. Jill happened in a way. That's anything GEL please. Welcome real outside of Atlanta Cynthia. Bailey I threw a party for the royal wedding which makes sense because it's always a party when she's here catcher on the sixth and final season of empire. Are Airing Tuesdays on Fox. Welcome back VIVICA A fox. I guess you got the high boot the standoff with wow raids okay behind the bar train my dog Walker to sit stay and beg and tonight we are begging him for drinks. Zossen lucky dog on Saturdays. It's my friend Brandon McMillan a brand new van. It's win with any sharks lately. November December out charge again. Wow great whites wow you wanna go swimming with the the Atlanta housewives sometime. We'll do it. Does waters around Kenya called Mark so we could see baby Brooklyn but he's see much more focused on criticizing Kenya Watch High Gel twirl keeps licking her in her face but dogs who loves them wing. She's he's a Rockstar. She's advanced. She's more events in that class. Anybody else mark has two kids to pass relationship. It was like you don't know anything I've I've had two kids before. What do you know about kids? I mean we know the end end of this story but seeing seeing this unfold unfold is how do you react to it at that point. You know in filming or just Stephen No one can you. I thought things were good. I knew that there were some issues but I didn't really realize how bad things were until the season. Well God it. Cynthia Cynthia. When Noel came back from college she opened up about her love life? This was big and a curve ball and take a look and I hope he move in. I sell the law guys I definitely ended up meaning a couple of girls that I thought were cool like in a romantic aspect. So you like guys and girls. There's a lot of attractive cars trucks barrels. I just want you to be happy oil. You meet an amazing young lady. That's a blessing as long as the people and they love and support you. It makes me excited that Noel feels like she a safe. Space to share. Love is love to that reaction to that. That was wonderful. Took you by surprise. Yeah I didn't know and you always feel like as a parent that you know. Nolan are super tight. You you guys watch the show and I had no idea. She was going to learn a lot when she went to college. But I didn't know she was going to learn that she was fluent. Wow It really. I commend your response and your support to her mental. Lots of Asu that you recently co hosted a Halloween haunted to the House Party with Adrian. Me How long have you known each a long time. I've known a lot of the house nine from coming on shows like this but yeah my friends got dressed up and we had the best time it was during the summer. Tina Knowles through a Gumbo Lavrov Saatchi. SASHI birthday did. How was Tina as your party plan? Oh my gosh. It was the best party ever. It was like researching Achy Island. Yeah and then it was amazing view in the Hollywood hills and she crowned me. I love I know you already a queen questions for Cynthia. Thanks for coming in but before we get to those. Here's what three things. I'm obsessed with tonight first. Kenya and EVA started this season. Bit At odds. But here's what they do seem to have one thing in common a friendship with Cynthia. We'll see how that works for Cynthia to defend her considering that she don't really know you like that she was like. I'm the only real friend is Cynthia has. She's picked her rider. Die Before and now she's attaching herself to evoke like my best friend. She bought me a necklace. Says unless you basically say they you'd and bring your kids to the party because you didn't know about king is energy and it kind of my key. I choose what and where they go. Can you be a little dramatic to the a Bailey. Aley normally goes hard for king is though firmly in the middle of this one. I don't know how as I know. I don't know that this workout so it's not gonNa work out for her the goodness I'm always in some weird friend triangle. It's crazy but here's the thing you know Kenya is she getting you know. Kenya is has changed a lot since she has become a mother. I'll say that but let's say she didn't become the Theresa Sanchez. Come a mom. I mean for the better. I mean to be very honest thirty second tonight. We saw Porsche trying to navigate her relationship with Dennis after his infidelity. But here's what she's realizing. There's no clear path ahead. This was so dramatic and heartbreaking breaking watch in at US tonight Lord. Kiss me in the mouth by baby. What does that mean? I'm like really confused. Therapy Wareham. I can't think of a damn thing to even say to him Sir. Yes to be disrespected at the most sacred time. It's like I just I can't forget that. Not Forgivable I had just heard my fiance that he actually had sex with someone. I didn't need to know anything I mean this. This is a wild ride to watch because it's happening shows such a gym and I was so disappointed because I really thought that she had found a good man. That was gonna like you know treasure her and I. I was just so disappointed to you. See Him do her do her that way it was. It was tough watching it. You know portion. I honor an amazing place so happy for her and I always rooted for just love and Dennis makes her happy so Salat for you guys to kind of continue to watch but I hope it works out. All right finally Vikas Empire character loves high class fashion but when it comes to some Vikas Pass looks. I'm curious if she thinks nanny just clash. Here's what it's time for adversity or if you get if not we throw it on the biology. Okay Okay here you you are at the daytime Emmy Awards in Nineteen Ninety. Cheer about you blockchain. Okay here you are at the two thousand three MTV BE BMA's essence awards in two two thousand for Sachi. Here you are at the. Why Do Fools Fall in love premier? Ninety eight okay at the soul train awards in two thousand and one not you in two thousand nine. In here you are at the Juliana Man Premier in two thousand in here you are at the Food Lem for Mir Ninety seven the world all music awards in Monte Carlo in two thousand three right the big in two thousand three awards. Let's go to Katie from Arkansas Katy. What's your question Tandy? My questions we're seeing that Did you have any idea that the mom you kicked off and the premier ago so powerful they did not know that it was going to go viral but I regretted it immediately. Looked great with it. Why did you thought it was so o'connor I do it all the time with my keys? Very comfortable right. Obviously the wave the lashes. Everything goes and it's thought you know what this is so great to share my journey with this man. The real on the real is like Dick auto black. Okay okay. The cameras are rolling. Let's go that was very liberating to say. You know what I can put it on right. I can take it off and still I know. That's right the alley wants to you agree with Lee Daniels decision to not have just see small latte on the last season of empire was tough. Yep Up he's family. He's always going to be family loving to death but there was just too much Drama surrounding the circumstances. You in touch with them still at yes. I love them and who knows. Don't count him out Yummy. Sam Okay on empire the emailed Cynthia's Peter called you to congratulate you on your engagement. No isn't it on that note. May See p Said said. I was shocked when Porsche. Dennis took the ring back. When you and Peter got divorced? You keep the ringer. Give it back. I did keep the ring. You cut your the reaction. I mean in New York City. Hey Sarah which question make questions for you. Where where the rumors true that you went stated Dennis Rodman and how would you characterize your relationship absolutely false? I was actually asked to at the last minute. Go to to the Oscars with Dennis Rodman. His outfit was brighter than mine And I said yes. Huge Basketball Fan Chicago Bulls. At the time we went to the Oscars at the end of the night I said good night. All Right Theresa from Texas Theresa. What's your question for Cynthia Bailey? Early high brooms recently came out. That mark daily. Couldn't take his eyes off of Kenya at Brooklyn's birthday party do you think there's potential attention that they might get back together. And would you support that. I mean the rumors absolutely wasn't really windy. Yes Look Thabit listen. I am hopeful and optimistic. A stick that they can work it out at the end of the day. I want can't be happy. Also want mark to be happy all right on next week. ATLANTA ni-ni is excited to to celebrate pride. But she's not excited to see Cynthia Watch. Are you going to say something into either. Say Hello Cynthia's right there when you going to happen issue issue talking about today. They're going to come down here for. I want you to be nice to give and forget a move on. Okay here. Cynthia has done seven interviews. Sippy want people to think that she's mealy nice sweet angel in a next time you take a gun and shoot a machine that made you laugh. You hadn't insist that you really Lena tickled by that. I look you guys just have to watch the season all I can tell you watches that you know. I still despite vite everything that I've been through with Denia. Still have love for her a right and I hope that we can get to at least a respectable place okay. Let's go to Kelly from Maryland Jay. Kelley what's your question. Hi Andy. My question is difficult if all of the Atlanta housewives husband worst single would you want to do who would I wanNA do out of. I can take it back. I think Apollo what was Harvey. I yeah you know what. I'm going to cosign that I'm going to tell everybody on. An I'm tired is entangled in some complicated family drama. But they're still one thing. That's harder to straighten out the tangled web of Hollywood families Bitta consent. The I'm going to show. Oh you pairs of celebrities and you tell me you chapman and rebel Wilson or they related absolutely no not no they're not Bernie Sanders and leary. David now I'll like SORTA Kinda causing Scarlett Johansson and Ruth Bader GINSBURG. Yes all current lenny. Kravitz yes I know they're not yes Shirley maclaine and Warren Beatty no yes the other the Lawrenson Keanu Reeves. No no they're not no Madonna. Hillary Clinton No oh hell aw annual radcliffe no yes they are no tail end decoder fanning. Yes yes yes distant cousin. Tom Cruise no no no. They're not the Vegas say Nancy. What was the question first anthea? Okay what was your reaction to the news that Dennis did cheat on Porsche but not with sincerely well. I was disappointed that he cheated at all with anyway right but I was particularly having. It wasn't sincerely because she told us right. Run camera that that it wasn't her. Yeah that was good. That was true but I I really feel bad especially you know they have new beautiful daughter. It's it's just a lot. I really hope they work at J.. Wants to know your honest opinion of trump. While filming the Apprentice Vivica. He was charming. You're absolutely right. Donald Trump was the reason why I decided to do celebrity apprentice but how he has conducted himself as president has been completely disappointing to me. All right it's time for my today. That goes to my guest. Cynthia Bailey gotten engaged aged fiance Mike Hill since her last visit showed the ring view. That's a fine lines hashtag. Mike and I really like each other lot. Do see a lifelong relationships. You want some sort of wasted. You GotTa do you. Would we get engaged when I get on one. I want you to let the man propose where he's raising down thirsty. I prayed for my kill now. A for prayer was Mitch's as lives in Atlanta. The only way you could marry a hotter is married. This one that Cynthia as fifty cent I'd shackled to a new study that says the water on most. US Airlines is so unsafe. It's recommended to avoid coffee tea and even washing your hands on planes. I guess the reason plain coffee always tastes. Like crab is that it might might be laced with teeny tiny bits of poop. The more you know everybody if you drink that water it sounds sounds like the airport. Runway won't be the only thing with skid marks. I want to thank the guys Melissa John. Today's episode is brought to you by cash APP. It's the best way to send money to friends and has long been ranked the number one APP and finance in the APP store. You may not know it but cash APP has a ton of new features that make it even better than your bank including the cash card cash boosts bitcoin and more with the cash card. You can design a free debit card right from the APP that allows you to spend and money wherever you like pull money out of ATM. And even get instant discounts or boosts at your favorite shops and restaurants across the country boosts offer the best reward for a debit card hard period. 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Ninety percent of a dog behavior issues comes from lack of exercise. So I tell them you don't need a dog trainer. Union dog Walker right right and also I find that you have been able to do a lot of behavior modification with your coin trick which is say what it is the penny bottle but county pennies in a water bottle. All twenty cents solves any problem. Okay and what do you do with the with. The pennies in the wake dog is doing something excessive barking chewing yelling. What did you barking at accessible? You just shake the pennies. Say the word no and what happens. Is the pennies startles. The dog stops needed. Do not like this sound you guys. It works and it changes babe. You're it's twenty cents. Anybody can do that less empty water bottle. Let's go to Alexa from New York. Hey Alexa what's your question. Panzi Cynthia I love you guys so much and tie catcher Mike Westchester VIVICA. Though so my question is have you read the final script for empire. And can you give us clues on. What would be the either your character? Canda Have you read it. We haven't been out there we're right we're literally on show. We're halfway through the season there. Yeah okay through the season alright. They've been doing this teaser. Of who shot lucious right and then cook gets in the car. So did they both off each other right. Yeah so we don't know yet I'd be away. Let's go to Amanda from Iowa listened. Hi Andy my question is for Cynthia Cynthia. Yeah after everything that's happened to. What do you think the chances are of you writing up a new friendship contract with neem yards as well? The last one didn't work out so well like I'm out of the frame contract business. I think that I am. I'm just a great place in my life and yes sure why don't have to love hate relationship you think I I don't know I mean mine is more love. That's what it is I I don't know is. Is this something about our relationship but I will say and you guys will get to see on the show. I really really try to. We have a conversation. We have a major conversation. And you know I I get the personal closure that I need because I take accountability. I take I do everything themselves by the way I love your show. I noticed Q.. Allies call Brenda from Indiana Hebron. Which your question? Hi I just wanted to say relief fast. The Andy I love you so so so so so much I'm not so much back. Okay so question is for VIVICA. Of course the ANA. Yes brenna from Indiana. Yeah hey girl hey. Quentin Tarantino said. He was having having conversations with Thurman this Summer About Kill Bill Three. Have you heard anything. And who would you want to see. Play your daughter well you you don't honest with you that we've heard rumors about the kill Bill. Three sequel happening for years. Yeah and Quinton falls in and out of love with Hollywood you know if they like leak script of his he's done with holiday So I'd love for him to come back. I'd love for us to do kill Bill. 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869 Home Automation and Photography

Photography Tips From the Top Floor

26:56 min | 2 years ago

869 Home Automation and Photography

"Onto days. Tips on the top floor. Answer some questions from you guys specifically about light room. And I've made quite an interesting observation that has to do with both photography and home automation. This is tips on the top floor for June. The twenty seventh twenty nineteen. Right. Hey, welcome and squawk where you're listening to tips from the top floor the photography show, but well all things coming to you from the viewfinder villa right outside the gates of Hanover in Germany, while I haven't done this long detection. What's up? Okay. Let me see week. The weekend is up upon us here. I'm recording this on the Friday, the twenty eighth of June and for the next day, Saturday and Sunday. We'll have a people talk fee workshop here in the viewfinder villa. And yeah. People photography. Why lighting and put poetry is kind of part of this event is not just about posing like how to make sure so on is posed by in front of the camera, because I hope we'll get to discuss some of the much deeper questions there because I mean, if you've if you've done this, including people in a photo, you will know that, that does something to how we feel about the picture. It does something to us, including, including a person, another person that we can kind of relate to in one way or another, that dramatically changes how the photo works on an emotional level. So that's part of what I'll try to get to on the weekend. Anyway. That's what's up for the weekend. Oh, oh, just a few minutes before a recording. I made an observation and it yeah. I thought I'd I have to tell you about this. It has to do with light and it has to do with home automation. Now bear with me. Okay. Don't don't turn off. Don't turn this off. Let me let me in, in make an introduction here. The home kit home kit. I'm you know, I live in the apple universe, and yeah, I make no excuses for that. And I'm also kind of I've, I've been diving into a home automation, at least on a certain level, no locks and stuff. So I rather not have someone hack into my door lock but the lights. Yeah. Okay. Something goes wrong there. It's not the end of the world, but anyway, it has been quite reliable. It's mostly Phillips, you lights and then over time at it, some switchable power outlets. So I mean, for example, right now, it's really hard and I can now remotely turn on and off the fan. That's on the floor above me. Which sometimes is really in general. It has added a whole new level of convenience. And if you're also dabbling in home automation, you'll know what I'm what I'm talking about. But one thing I hadn't added to the system was cameras. Right. But that's mainly because. You know home kit. Compatible cameras, kind of expensive, we're talking hundred and fifty bucks, maybe thirty bucks, but can also easily spend like three or four hundred bucks for one. So that was like a thing that was I wasn't I didn't really see the need for and I didn't really have the will to spend so much money on these things, but that that recently changed because there's this guy who, who writes, a home kit, client, I believe he's from Austria. And he writes this brilliant piece of software that interfaces with home kit. And that surfaces, some of the functionality that honk it has, but its own apt dozen surface. And he now came up with a home kit. Compatible camera now. He's not selling the camera is there is some assembly required, which kind of caters to my nerdy side because it's based on a raspberry pi, and it's open source. So he wrote the software and. It, it again, as I said, it speaks to my nerdy side, but it also speaks to my frugal side, because it brings down the cost for one of those home kit, Cam, compatible cameras, quite significantly instead of the hundred thirty forty fifty bucks or way more, our you're talking thirty to forty bucks, and that's a very different story. Maybe the image quality isn't quite as good and. The raspberry pi camera, the isn't isn't the best in the world, but it serves a job. Right. And it does it quite well. And. Let me tie this photography, because, you know how I keep recommending the exercise where you repeatedly take a picture of something outside something that you that you can easily see from a window. And at different times of day in different weather conditions, and over time you'll build a library of the same thing in different lighting conditions, which. Like overcast and direct sunlight and so on, which is invaluable to help you understand light. And this is what this is what this is the exercise that changed my photography that really did change photography. So highest recommendation do that take the speech of the same thing over and over saved those pictures to a folder, and, and, or to an album and go back to them over time. And you'll you'll understand better what light does to a photo now. Now, here's what just happened in the okay in the default view when you open the home app that shows you the cameras. You kind of get only get a snapshot of that camera, every ten seconds and it keeps updating that every ten seconds. So unless I kind of click on the camera itself that and then I get a live video feed, but in the overview, where I can see multiple cameras. I get those snapshots every ten seconds. And while the camera acquires, a new snapshot, I it only takes those when I when I need them, right? It won't send data over the network and clogged the network if I don't need this. But if I if I want to see a new snapshot, I opened this app and it shows me the last snapshot it pulled from the camera while it's acquiring the new snapshot. So this morning is overcast right now. And when I opened the overview of the cameras just for a few seconds, it shows me the picture from last night, or from last evening, and that was like with the sun, very low warm. Color is harsh shadows sunset picture. And then after three or four seconds it replace. It places it with the current photo, which is again. Assan higher up. But there clouds in the mix. So they're almost no shadows, and a different direction of light in different different color cast, and just seeing those two in rapid succession, that dawn on me that I can now do this experiment, again, to take the same picture of the same thing under different lighting conditions. But I can no automate that is that also. So here's what I would do. I will set up when those cameras and pointed at our garden, and I will automate the picture, taking the again, it's very easy now, something along the lines of every day, one hour after sunrise, take a photo at the same time and not at the same time one hour after sunrise, so or take a picture at nine at twelve at three and six o'clock or something like that. Again, those super high resolution photos, but they will serve the purpose. They are decent enough. So yeah, here you have it. Re repurposing or side purposing a home automation camera for the purposes of learning more about light infra tiger fee, who would have thought. Anyway, I will link Lincoln linked to that project in the show notes. If you're if you are capable of. Of logging into a raspberry pi then inciting that, you, you should have an easy time, building one of those himself. It's a fun little project. And again, this is home. This is home could only unfortunately, sorry apologies to non apple people. But that's that's the home kit. Compatible version, and yeah it does the job. And he way link is in the show notes. Let's get to the, the main thing on today's show, which is light Johm. Yep. We're going to be very pragmatic today and talk about light room that will answer a couple of questions. And by the way, if you have questions doesn't matter can can be light from can be philosophical can be way out there, or it can be just something, very, very practical about your camera or something like that. Doesn't matter. I love hearing your questions. Send them Rick record them with your smartphone, divorce men will app, any recording app will do and send them to voice at Tf, TTF dot com. That's where. Where I received them and then I get them on the show. Hello, chris. This is Sam in Dallas. I have several thousand photos that I need to upload to the copyright office for registration, the problem is, they're in multiple folders. I'm wondering what the best way is to process these in light room. So I can reduce the size. Put them all in one folder in preparation for upload. Thanks to the help. Chris. Thank you, Sam. Okay. You have several thousand photos in different folders, and you need to get them all into one folder in the smaller size process to end in a smaller size to send them to the copyright office. Well. Associate task is you need to pull together photos from different folders on your hard drive, and I assumed you imported those into the light room catalog already, and just, and this is this is a very, very basic understanding question about how light from works and the important bit of information is natural allows you different views on your photos, right? There's the good old folder structure where you're. I don't know. Your photos are in under a pictures folder, and then it is under under different years and under months under those years. And then you might have photos photos per event or per day. Are in any other structure that works for you. But then there's also a logical view because lied to him is a database and light room allows you to sort and filter by meta data meta data has all the data that's not the picture itself, but is linked to the picture. So if your workflows folder Centric. Which there's nothing wrong with that other than other than that it takes a lot of like positive a lot of potential flexibility. But you could do the following okay? You could go through your folders individually one by one and assign the same label to all the photos that you want to export label is a piece of MEDA data. And I think label works quite well. You can also do this with a keyword, but maybe label is the one you want, and you will find that if you open a picture and not in the develop module, but if you if you Mark a picture in the great view, and then his e the key than it opens that interview where it can access the meta data in the right hand side bar. And that's where you can set the label to, I don't know anything that works for you award rights, just a word or something like. Exports four copyright office. That would be a label, and you can do this picture by picture, which is going to become tedious quite quickly for thousands of pictures, typing it in over and over or you can select multiple photos in the sign the same labor to all of them at once. So that'll make things a bit easier. But there's other ways you can add the label to one photo. And then while holding the command key on a MAC or the control key and windows. You can then select all the other photos that should also have that label and then at the bottom of the right side bar, there is a button called sink meta data on that you can use that to synchronize the meta data from one photo to copy pretty much the meta data from one photo to all the others. And in that all you have to do is select just a label. So that's the only thing that gets copied over. And then yet you have just applied that labor from one photo to many others. Let me think of other way. Oh, yeah. There's one more that. Again, has the same result. But as a different way to get there, you could use the spray can there's a little spray can in the toolbar the bottom of the library screen. And by the way, if you don't see the toolbar the T key, that'll make it visible or invisible. And the way this works is you can select the source photo that already has that label and then click the spray can, and then next to the spray can has a pull down you select label from that. And then you just spray that label onto all photos that you want to adopt the same label. So you see there are multiple ways to get to your goal. And I've probably didn't even cover each in every way that, that you could've used. But that's just three just three ways to do this. And that's the preparation for your export. Because now now comes this is where the flexibility comes in, because again, it's a database system. So now you can simply filter by label. Or you can search for that label hit commander on the MAC or control F on windows, and then search box opens and you can search for that specific label then you will get the of a great overview of justify does that have that label which then they can span any amount of folders. Right. And that doesn't matter where they are, as long as lider knows about them knows where they are. And to make sure by the way to make sure that the that search covers all your photos. In the left top of the left side bar, you'll have to have all photo selected. That's kind of your main search to right. If you have all folded selected all the social perations will go through all the photos and then you can export those with any level of, compression, re-sizing the export dialogue under file export will allow you to re size all these photos at once export them with a higher, compression, whichever way you want. Exactly to your needs. And save them to a folder. And then you can send them off to wherever you need them. Let me say quick. Thank you to this week sponsor. Vistaprint small business owners know that the most important time is now being prepared when an opportunity comes up is crucial and having a business called ready that shows how professional you are is the first step with vistaprint. 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I Chris Oliver Munich and an additional question to light room. After over five years, what can make book. I operated to a macbook pro. Yeah. Performance. So as I did some Hex on my MAC book, which I wasn't completely show with a healthy and goods. I thought I might be a good idea to restart this fresh Azlan you macbook pro. So I took my new macbook pro was plano is installed. All really really needed -application to get rid of all those Yelm, drippy, things end resolved all the daytime FIS last time machine backup, but only the data. I was naive enough to believe that's it for life. I had to discuss. Nope, I naval to stall might settings with cut, aloke enlighten them. So I believe I'm safe and all that settings get restored as well. Unfortunately, I discovered that this is not true. Well full should the guests to the round. So could check all his life from setting in cut look settings to get back in the same meta. But I still struggling with the color flex, which I renamed alas, rename color in new or standard color flicks. So a little bit of annoying. You have any recommendation for light backup recovery strategy to be sure that all settings are recovered in a well men. Are you expect? That would be really great not for me because I'm done. But maybe all the other one, thank you. A lot and talk to you soon. Bye bye. Thanks. Yes. So you upgraded to macbook pro. Hey, congratulations. And with a fresh install. Yup. That's helpful, that's any computer that's kind of helpful and then you restored your data for your backup on the last time machine backup would only the app set you need it. Now apps, and talking about the MAC here apps have different places where they keep data. And it's not just the app. Right. There's other stuff now you said you, you set it to store, the settings with a catalog, and then you lost color flags. So the question is, how do backup or recover light trim. And again, there's a in addition to the actual software, they actual program. The there is additional information that up, you might not have restored and on the MAC that is under under your user folder, the sub folder, library slash application support slash adobe slash light room. That would be the location. And I think on windows, if I Google that correctly, it's under users backslash, your name, backslash app. Data access roaming backstage adobe bash light room. And that's a. A place where nighttime keeps a lot of information including a lot of presets and stuff. Now. Not quite all of them are there. And I believe if you set the store settings with catalog it doesn't apply to everything. That's probably the problem here. There's the development presets, which are in different location than other presets. And then there's other presets, which are in the location. I just mentioned any anyway, before you get all confused, Goto, the preferences dialog in light room and then go to the presets tab. And there's a field or an area that says location where you can select to store, the precepts with this catalogue, but there are also two buttons. One is the light Trump development presets button. And that will show you in the file system on your system. And I believe on MAC and windows when show you whether you're development presets ours if you used them extensively, that's the place where you'll find them, and then there's a second button next to it in that says show all other light impre- sets, and that will take you to the folder. I just mentioned. So those are the two areas, the two locations that are important to not just back up which, again on the MAC fuse time machine those are being backed up. But if you want to restore it, that's what you would have to restore as well. And. In that, by the way, and that same dialogue you can also kind of reset the various platinum precepts that defaults will be careful, I think you can override stuff there. But my plan of action. To back backup on the MAC. And again, there's there must be equivalent on windows, but I would use time machine, which is kind of a backup everything thing you have a hard drive connected to a computer or some network drive that allows you to do that. And then time machine just doesn't already back and takes care of things. And let's go back in time to an earlier version of whatever you backed up and. And then do a fresh install of light from, I mean, if you have the teed, creative cloud, then just click an install yovany of light room in my case, it's like Trump classic and I suppose, that's the same that you were talking about uh. And then, of course, you want to restore your light from catalog, which is your database pretty much. You there's as a bonus, you could also restore your previews, and you're smart previews, though. Sit in the same directory at the catalog. And then you want to restore your photos the actual raw files or or point light room to wear. The originals are if there's somewhere on the network. Li- Thome in the folder view in the folder tab in the sidebar. We'll we'll show you a question marks if it can't find folders, and then you can, right. Click and point light room to wear the folders now. And then it'll it'll just find those pictures. And then yeah. In addition, the last step would be to restore those presets from the backup to the locations above, again, by going to the preferences dialog, and then clicking on those buttons and just mentioned and restore those to those specific locations. And you should be back to normal. 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