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A highlight from A Dame Trade Deep Dive With Ben Thompson, Plus Seth Meyers and Million-Dollar Picks
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We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer .com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60 % field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50 % shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25 .5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over -under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100 % hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off -the -ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make -shit -happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half -court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid -30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one -ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two -year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one -year window. This is a two -year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame -Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis -Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture -wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55 -win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first -round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24 .2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30 .1, Jerry West, 27 .1, Allen Averson, 26 .7, George Gervin, 26 .2, Oscar Robertson, 25 .7, Kobe, 25 .0, Harden, 24 .7, Curry, 24 .6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22 .4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three -pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid -30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non -exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117 .4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid -2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade -off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O 'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.

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"Coming up, Dame gets traded. Million dollar pick Seth Meyers, it's all next. It's the Bill Simmons Podcast presented by FanDuel. Get in on the football action right from the opening kickoff with America's number one sports book. The app is safe, secure, easy to use. FanDuel always has exclusive offers. When you win, you'll get paid instantly. FanDuel has lots of ways to play, like the spread, money line, over-unders, team totals, player props, so much more. Jump into the action at any time during the game with live betting. Combine multiple bets from the same game in a same game parlay. Download the FanDuel sports book app today. Make every moment more of this football season. The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit TheRinger.com slash RG to learn more about the resources and help lines available and listen to the end of this episode for additional details. You must be 21 plus and present in select states. Gambling problem, call 1-800-GAMBLER or visit TheRinger.com slash RG. This episode is brought to you by Uber Eats. I just use this. Here's something every football fan should know. You can get everything you need for game day delivered with Uber Eats. Well, almost, almost anything because you can't get the dream flex for your fantasy team delivered with Uber Eats. But Tex-Mex, yeah, great pass protection, can't get it. Great pizza selection, oh yeah. While they can't help on the field, you can get pretty much everything else you need to watch the game delivered with Uber Eats. So this season, get anything, almost, almost anything for game day by ordering on the Uber Eats app. Uber Eats, official on-demand delivery partner of the NFL. Order now. I'll call in select markets and 21 plus to order. Product availability may vary by region. See app for details. We're also brought to you by The Ringer Podcast Network where I put up a new rewatchables on Monday night. We did the big chill. It was very, very exciting. I have Kyle Brandt coming on Monday's podcast. I'm just gonna tell you the movie now because it is gonna be the best moment of your weekend if you spent two hours watching this classic. We're doing Toy Soldiers. It really brings everything possible to the table. So if you wanna watch it ahead of time, there it is. That podcast is going up Monday night. If you wanna hear stuff about the debate, we have Tara Paul and Mary's podcast, Somebody's Gotta Win. That reacted to it as well as the press box with Brian Curtis and David Shoemaker. So there you go. Our debate coverage has been on point. Also, higher learning. Van and Rachel had Larry Elder on this weekend. It made a lot of noise, man. That podcast is great. I hope you check that out as well. Hope you're checking out theringer.com. And on this podcast, gonna talk about the dame trade at the top. We're gonna bring in Ben Thompson from the Techery newsletter, which he's been on this podcast I think four weeks ago. And he's a huge Bucks fan. He's gonna give the Bucks fan side of things. We're gonna do million dollar picks. And then old friend Seth Meyers talking about a whole bunch of stuff. So really good podcast. It's all next. First, our friends from Pro Jam. What's up? All right, I'm taping this on Thursday afternoon. Normally when there's a big MBA trade, I always do the emergency trade reaction right after the podcast. But we just put up a podcast on Tuesday. So I decided to play it a little differently this time. I wanted a little distance, I wanted to listen to stuff, read stuff, and try to form some big picture opinions coming out of this. So I have four smaller ones, then one big one. First one, I thought Portland did an incredible job with this trade. I really liked this trade, especially everyone was trying to bully them in June and July about, oh, you got to take Miami's offer. You just got to. It's where he wants to go. It's the only offer you're going to get. And guess what? They waited. They played it perfectly. They stared Miami down, and they got a much better deal. First of all, they get the Drew Holiday piece that they can flip into a bunch out of their stuff, which we'll talk about in one second. I love the DeAndre Ayton gamble. As you know, on this podcast, I am a big DeAndre Ayton guy. Not in the sense of I'm the biggest fan of his in the world, but I'm a fan of the asset. I just think I love the valued assets, no matter what it is. Whatever market we're talking about, DeAndre Ayton, 18 and 10 for his career, 60% field goals percentage, 25 years old. He's played in 45 playoff games. He played four rounds in the 2021 finals. Last year, he got his ass kicked by Jokic. Oh, sorry. Like, that never happens. And Phoenix just sold on him, which I can't wait to talk about. But just from a Portland standpoint, they not only get Ayton in whatever they get for holiday, they get the 29 first, they get the two swaps, and they dump Nurkic. Nurkic hasn't had a healthy start to finish all the way through the playoffs here since 2018, which I'm positive was a long time ago. He's basically 12 and 8. He's, you know, a 50% shooter. I made a list of the top 30 centers. I encourage you to do this at home, because what's more fun than making lists of NBA centers? I can't imagine anything. I made a list of who I thought were the best assets of the center position for talent, contract, everything. He was 29th on my list. The only person I had ahead of him who's technically a starter, unless you start talking about the Detroit or Charlotte guys, was Zubats on the Clippers. I thought he was the 29th best center asset in the league. And Phoenix, you know, just quickly to go to them, they're trying to win this year. They got worse. They turned Ayton's money into Nurkic and Grayson Allen and Nasir Little. Grayson Allen, we already know with him, he can't play in playoff series. We saw him 22. We saw it last year. I heard and read in some places like that, I got two rotation players. Did they? Is Nurkic a playoff rotation player? Is Grayson Allen a playoff rotation player? Because I'm positive he's not. So for the same money that they were spending on Ayton, they got three guys that I don't think are going to help them. In 25, the money comes down a little bit to 23 million just for Nurkic and Little, which is 7 million less than Ayton. And then in 26, that money goes up to 25.5. But I don't understand what Phoenix was doing. Why not wait to see if Ayton clicks with Vogel? Vogel has such a good history with centers. He rejuvenated Dwight Howard on the 2020 Lakers. He basically created Roy Hibbert's career in 2013 with the defense verticality thing. I thought he was going to do a good job with Ayton. I'm stunned that they gave up on him. I'm almost waiting for one of those, now they tell us stories when, you know, that's where Brian Curtis calls them, where like a week after something happens, there's this kind of notebook dump where it's like, here's seven terrible DeAndre Ayton stories. So maybe that'll happen. But for Phoenix just to be like, cool, we locked this down, man. We got Nurkic. You're trying to win the title. You have KD and Booker and Beal. And like, what are you guys doing? Anyway, from Portland's standpoint, I love the Ayton thing. I love that they didn't get bullied. And I know they're going to turn Drew Holliday into something. So this to me was at least an A minus for them, for where they were two months ago, where Dave's like, I want to go to Miami. That's it. And if you don't trade me there, that's kind of fucked up. And they made this work as it got reported that, uh, I think in the athletic, that he expanded his list to Brooklyn and to Milwaukee in the last two weeks. And that's what Portland was waiting on. You know, they were banking on the fact that he's a competitive dude. He's one of the best 75 pairs ever. He wanted a situation settled. So, you know, you wait, you wait, you wait, they expand the list and then you go. Uh, there's a Drew Holliday piece to this. That's awesome. He becomes a contender prize. I wouldn't call this a Drew Holliday sweepstakes. I reserved sweepstakes for the superstars, but it's a mini sweepstakes. This is somebody that could have a huge impact on the playoff race. You know, not only the usual suspects, everybody's talking about Boston, ironically, Miami is a really good fit for him. And in some ways, um, I'm a little more scared of them with Miami than Dame in some ways, especially at a much cheaper contract with giving up less and keeping some of their assets. Philly, if they could pull it off, they have to be in there in Golden State, Minnesota. I think I have to mention Sacramento, I think is a team that if they could figure out how to get Drew without giving up their core, which is basically Keegan Murray and Sabonis and Fox, like that's, you know, could Davion Mitchell be in that trade with some, with a salary and some picks, who knows. The team that I love for Drew Holliday is OKC. I have OKC, you know, I started doing my MBA research for the over-under spot and I haven't landed on a number for them yet, but to me, they feel like a high forties team with Chet and with the growth of their young guys. And if you just like, let's say they traded Lou Dort and a bunch of their picks, maybe two firsts and two of their lesser picks or three firsts and a second, whatever it is. And they just say, fuck it. And they get Drew and you put him with Giddy and SGA and Jalen fucking awesome Williams and Chet Holmgren and all these other dudes they have, that might be a top three team in the West. I mean, that, that's starting to give me some early 2010s OKC vibes. So where he goes is going to be important. I just feel like there was so much Drew Holliday slander the last couple of days. You know, he's one of my favorite players. Even Haralabob, who was the chairman of the board of the Drew Holliday fan club for years and would have the benefit dinners there and, you know, just did a lot of yeoman's work on that front. And even he was like, yeah, yeah, Dame's better than Drew. That trade makes sense for Milwaukee. I was hurt, Haralabob. I was 100% hurt by that. But you know, Drew got his ass kicked by Jimmy Butler in the playoffs last year. I get it. It happens. Jimmy was unbelievable. I feel like he would have kicked anybody's ass. By the way, why is Drew Holliday guarding Jimmy Butler? That speaks more to some of the issues with Milwaukee. He was never supposed to be a point guard and a creator. I think he was always better as an off-the-ball guy. We saw that with Rondo and New Orleans and just in general. I want to see him with a point guard. I want to see him just being unleashed, not having the ball a lot, just worrying about hitting threes, being an occasional, you know, make-shit-happen guy and being like the third or fourth best guy on a team without having the offensive responsibility to have. All their half court issues got blamed on him for the last couple of years. And I get it. They weren't like an awesome half-court team, even the other one in the finals, but I really value that dude. I had him, even I did the trade value list in August and I had him 37th and I had Dame 23rd. I think he's one of the best 30 players in the league still. He's 33 years old, which, you know, I'm going to talk in a second about when guards hit their mid-30s, but just in general, I think he's a real asset. If he goes to a team like the Celtics and they can keep Derek White and Tatum and Brown in the center, it's like, look out, man. So little mini sweepstakes, rarely do we get the trade, but then we still get another asset to talk about. Thank you for everyone involved in the trade. And then the fourth small point is just that, you know, not rocket science, Milwaukee bought some Giannis time here. They have one of the best 20 players of all time. They were staring down the barrel of a situation that was not good. I was talking about it on this podcast in late June and early July. I thought he was going to put them on the clock. I thought Mark Lasry selling his stake was a really bad sign for all of this because that dude is smart. As I laid out in June, that guy is really smart. And if he's feeling like, you know what, it's time for me to sell my buck stock, that makes me nervous. And then all the stuff that Giannis said and did, which I thought he did really fairly and really smartly. And I think that dude's about titles and that's it. And I know we say that about players, but I think in his case, I don't think he cares about, you know, what's my legacy, how do I compare against Dirk DeWhisky, any of that stuff. I just think he wants more rings. I mean, think about the guys who have won two rings out of the best 35 guys on my list of my pyramid. Those are all guys in my top 35 that won multiple wings. You go to the one-ring side, Jerry West, Oscar, Moses, Dirk, Jokic, Giannis, Pettit, Garnett, Kawhi, Rick Barry. That's the list he's on now. I certainly don't think he's looking at that list going, I got to get away from these guys, but it's a slightly different list. I think when you win multiple rings in multiple situations, it elevates you in a certain way. I think he fundamentally understands that at least a little bit. I want to be the best player since LeBron James. I think that's a thing that he wants. How am I going to do that? I need more rings. I need more finals trips. He knew from last year and maybe even the Boston series that they just weren't good enough. Whether this trade is going to be the thing that propels them, we'll find out, but he's been in the league 10 years, two MVPs, five first teams, two second teams, and now we have this little two-year window. Kawhi and the Raptors was a one-year window. This is a two-year window, I feel like. With Giannis, he's got two years left in his deals. So does Lopez. Middleton has two in a player option. Dame's got two, and then this crazy $120 million player option extension thingy that he has that just keeps going and going. It's probably two years. There's a world where this could go terribly this season, at least for what the expectations are, and then maybe it becomes Kawhi, Raptors. Maybe Giannis is like, you know what? That didn't work. Trade me. And the Bucks, who have no picks left and no future, they look at it next summer, and they go, all right. We tried it. Giannis, what can we get for you? Dame, what can we get? And they just do a reboot, rehaul. Remember, they won in 2021, which just takes so much pressure out of this. It's so much different than the Clippers situation, where they went all in on Kawhi and Paul George. They give up all those picks and SGA, and they've gotten nothing out of it. They haven't even made the finals. So it's got to happen. I think they at least probably have to make the finals. If they get bounced in round two, do I think Giannis is going to stay because they made this Dame-Mower trade? Probably not. So that leads to the big question, is how good of a trade was this? So there's a big picture angle on Dame, and it's going to sound negative, but I really don't want it to sound negative because I think Dame, I voted for him for NBA Top 75. I think he's been one of the best guards in the last 15 years. I think there's a ton of great things you can say, and there's a chance that he goes to Milwaukee, and this thing is fucking awesome. I know any Celtic fan I've talked to, including Isaiah, who's helping produce this podcast today, the Giannis-Dame pick and roll is just terrifying. Other than Jokic and Murray, it's going to be the single most unstoppable offensive play in the league. It is. We are conceding that point. The spot Dame is in right now, big picture-wise, it's weird. He's a superstar, but he's not, and we've seen guys like this before. I judge superstars by, do you have the resume statistically, and is your team succeeding consistently at a certain level? You can't totally say that about Dame. He's never been on a 55-win team. He's missed the playoffs completely four times in 11 years. He said three first-round exits. He made the Final Four once in 2019, which was really lucky because Golden State and Houston were the two best teams, and then they got smoked. He's never been on a true contender ever. Instinctively, you go, well, that's not his fault. Who's he played with? Well, he played with LaMarcus Aldridge and CJ McCollum and a couple other guys, but not really anybody. The reason I'm putting this up is there's a success element that he has not had yet that for somebody with his resume is actually kind of unusual. I went and I looked up how many guards in the history of the league averaged 22 points a game for their career and played at least 700 games. I thought the list would be like 20. I didn't know. I didn't know what I was walking into. Only I think 75 guys have averaged 22 a game. So I went and I looked up the list, and it was 10 guys, 700 games, 22 a game for their career. There were some guys who came close like David Thompson, who I think is one of the best guards I've seen in the last 45 years, but had a short career and had some drug issues. He didn't make it. He didn't play enough games. Pete Maravich, 24.2 points a game, but he didn't play enough games. Kyrie hasn't played enough games yet. Bradley Beale is five games away. I'm actually kind of glad the cutoff's at 700 so we don't have to talk about him. And then Mitchell and Trey Young aren't there yet. There's only 10 guys that made it, and the 10 guys are all fucking awesome. And again, I mentioned this in the context of Dame, who we think he is versus the success he's had. So the 10 guys, Michael Jordan, 30.1, Jerry West, 27.1, Allen Averson, 26.7, George Gervin, 26.2, Oscar Robertson, 25.7, Kobe, 25.0, Harden, 24.7, Curry, 24.6, Wade, 22, barely made it, and Russ, 22.4, and then Dame is at 25 again. All right, what does he not have that those other guys have? Well, MJ, don't need to talk about him. Don't need to talk about Jerry West, who's the freaking logo. Allen Averson, pretty good comparison, right? Big stats, really memorable player, but not a ton of success. Here's the difference. Averson made the finals once. He won an MVP. Dame has done neither of those things. George Gervin was the best scoring guard of the 70s. He made two final fours. He had some bad luck. He really, in 79, really should have came close. And some of it's on him, right? He could have come through. Bobby Dandridge is the one that ended up coming through for the Bullets. They lose. But two final fours, he had four top five MVP finishes, five first teams, four second teams. He was just unassailably the best guard in the league until MJ. Oscar Robertson, don't need to go through him, but he won a ring and an MVP. Kobe, five rings and an MVP. Eleven first teams for Kobe, by the way. James Harden, three final fours, an MVP, six top five MVP finishes, six first team MBAs. And even though Harden has never made the finals as the best guy, he made it with OKC as the sixth man, you could build a contender around Harden. We saw it. We haven't really seen it with Dame. I think that's a fair thing to bring up. Curry, four rings, two MVPs, you know, the Curry thing. Dwayne Wade, three rings, two top five MVPs, two first teams, three second teams. He's more in the Dame waters a little bit, but he had the 2006 finals and he was the second best guy with LeBron on those heat teams. And then Westbrook, who you would say, well, Dame had a better career than Westbrook. Did he? Westbrook made the finals in 2012. He was second best guy on that team. Almost made the finals in 2016. He won an MVP. He had two first teams and five second teams. It's at least like a real argument. And I think when you look at Dame, he only had that one 2019 round three, got bounced. He's only had one top five MVP finish. He's only had one first team MBA and four second team MBAs. Really, really good top 75 career. But the piece that's missing is, have you been on a really good team? Have you made a real run at it? Which is why, you know, I think this Milwaukee trade is so much fun. This is his real chance. I get nervous about a couple things with this trade. One is that, you know, if you look at the 33 and older guards who average 22 points a game in a season. Jordan did it twice. Curry did it twice. Still going. Kobe did it three times. Jerry West twice. Sam Jones once. Hal Greer once. That's the entire list. Now the NBA is different. We have more three-pointers now. It's easier to score. Scoring is the easiest it's ever been. Guys can play at a longer age. So I'm not ruling out Dane being good for the next three years. But just pointing out, history is saying, be a little nervous. In general with guards, like Chris Paul, we saw from age 35 to 36 to 37, like it just dropped. But that's two years older than Dane. Maybe it's fine. I just worry about guards. We have not a lot of instances with guards in their mid-30s of them either peaking as players or being able to sustain whatever success they had during their prime. It always starts to go down with really no exceptions, except for Steph Curry. He's the only non-exception. So if your case is Dane's as good as Steph Curry, or Dane can be as potent as Steph Curry on a winning team, like, you know, Steph Curry is better than Dane, but I'm not going to argue that he couldn't do a lot of the stuff that Curry did in Golden State. The bigger issue for me, the age I'm definitely worried about. Dane has not been healthy the last couple of years, and we have not seen him play nine straight months at playoff basketball with a big bullseye on his back. Everybody coming after you, you're the best team. We haven't seen him do that ever, much less than the last couple of seasons. So can he stay up? Can he stay healthy? That's one thing. The defense with Dane just got kind of swept under the rug the last couple days, and I don't really understand it because there's five categories of defensive player I feel like. There's excellent, there's good, there's average, there's not so good, and then there's bad. And I think Dane's a bad defender. I think the stats back it up. Like, his defensive rating last year was 245 out of the guards. He's the 245th guard for defensive rating. You know, 117.4 individual defensive rating is 483 overall. Portland's team's always defensively, it was the Achilles heel for them. Partly because of Dane, because he couldn't guard anybody. He's too small. And, you know, think about what we saw from the playoffs the last couple years. I think about the 2020 bubble Celtics playoffs, not infrequently, because I think that team had a chance to potentially win a title. What happened? Everyone hunted Kemba Walker. It was hunting season. It's like, where is he? Got to get a switch. Got to get Kemba Walker guarding somebody who's bigger, or got to beat him off the dribble, and it just became a hunt session with him. And basically, he got played out of the league. He's not in the league anymore. You know, we had this with Isaiah Thomas, too, in the mid-2010s. I think it's been an issue with Kyrie Irving. The Celtics certainly went at him in the playoff series with Brooklyn a couple years ago. Curry, you saw, who I think is a better defender than people give him credit for, but the And he's a much better defender than Dame is. Jordan Poole is somebody that got hunted in playoff series recently. Chris Paul, obviously, is a big one. Jalen Brunson, remember what the Heat did to him? Mitchell, when he was on Utah, this was a huge issue. And then Trae Young, obviously. My fear with Dame is he's a DH, and I think in Portland, part of the reasons he was able to put up the stats he did was because he wasn't playing defense, right? It was just, how many points can I score? My team isn't very good, and I'm just going to do my thing. He's an incredible offensive player. But how much of a trade-off is the defense, right? Well, you think, all right, well, Milwaukee, they're really good defensively. They'll be able to protect him. Here's the team. Giannis, Dame, Lopez, Portis, Middleton, Conaton, Beauchamp, Crowder. Who's guarding Trae Young on this team? Who's guarding Jason Tatum? Here's a partial list of guys that I don't think this team will be able to guard this season. Devin Booker, Tatum, Butler, Trae Young, Kyrie, Curry. Who's going to be chasing Curry around the screens? Dame lowered? Good luck. SGA, Luca, Mitchell, Murray, Edwards, Brunson, Ja, Garland, Fox, Halburn. Are they going to be able to cover Derek White? I don't know. The way this team is constructed, they are not going to have the ability to guard other guards at all, which means they're just going to have to be in a shooting match with them, right? It's going to be not much different than what's going to happen with Phoenix, where they're just literally going to have to outscore the other team. I've just watched too much playoff basketball over the last couple years, where it's like, if you have that weak link on defense, and you're playing a team that's smart enough, they're going to go after that weak link. Like, think about them against the Lakers, right? The Lakers figure their crunch time. Let's say they make the finals. It's Milwaukee and the Lakers, and Lakers crunch time. They're going to have LeBron and Davis and Austin Reeves and, I don't know, a shooter and a point guard, whatever. All they're going to be doing is trying to find where Dame is on the court and going after him. What about when they play Boston? Boston puts out White and Brogdon and Tatum and Brown and a center, and all they're going to be doing is trying to make sure Dame is covering somebody who has the ball who's now torturing him. I think it's a real problem for them. And what's funny is they gave up Drew's defense and, you know, they, what they gave up on defense, which is significant, and they gained an offense, it might end up just being a wash and they might just be a different version of the same team where they still have a huge flaw. It's just on the other end of the court. I'm just shocked that nobody brought up the defense. I agree he's an amazing offensive player and what's cool about this trade and what I'm excited about as a basketball fan is, can he go up a level? Right? A lot of these stats he put up, especially the last couple years. They didn't mean anything. They were, he was on bad teams. Like, who cares? Ultimately, Bradley Beal scored 30 points a game on the Wizards. Who cares? I think most really good offensive players, if they're on a bad team, can get between 25 and 30 a night. Can you do it nine months in a row? Can you do it when you're getting hunted on defense all over the place? How much can Milwaukee protect him? And what does he have in the tank at age 33 with 900 plus games on the O'Dominor already? I'm still afraid of the Bucks, but people have, like, FanDuel had them as best odds in basketball and I think most people feel like they're the favorite now. I don't feel like there's a favorite. I think you can go through every team. Boston, I could, I'm scared of Porzingis. What's going to happen with Jalen Brown out there? He has contracts. Can Peyton Pritchard, all these different things. Philly, God only knows. Miami, they're unquestionably worse. Yeah, Milwaukee is going to be really good, but depending where Holiday lands and how this all plays out, I just think it's still wide open. And the other piece, so if you're just talking Boston, Miami, Tatum kills Milwaukee. I have no idea why. Boston is kind of built to at least stay with Dame and, you know, Derek White is about as good of a person you're going to have to try to keep Dame in check, at least. And Boston's done a really good job of guarding Giannis over the years. They don't have Grant Williams this year, but I just don't think, I think there's as many ways this goes wrong as it goes right, I guess would be my final thought on this because for what they gave up, especially with that 29 unprotected and the two swaps and, you know, they are all in on this team. And you know my theory, when you go all in on a team, you better think you can win. Not positive, but it's an awesome trade. It really is. It makes the league so much more fun. Dame and Giannis together. I'm going to enjoy watching Portland. I still have my eating stock. Watching Phoenix fans slowly realize that Derkiszna isn't the answer is going to be fun and then we'll see where Drew Holliday goes. So really fun trade. We're going to talk about it a little bit more with Die Hard Bucks fan, Ben Thompson in one second. Let's take a break.

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"When that was the coolest show on TV and he said how his daughter was actually impressed by him for the first time. That delighted him to no end. 11 NBA rings didn't make his daughter think he was cool. But a couple of SNL sketches did, he laughed and laughed, that famous Russell cackle filling the whole first floor. We talked about a revelation second wind has extraordinarily out of biography that Russell actually scouted the Celtics after joining them in 1956. Russell wanted to play to their strengths and cover their weaknesses. So he studied them during shooting drills and scrimmages. He built a mental filing cabinet that stored everything they could and couldn't do. And then determined how to boost them accordingly. It was his job to make them better. That's what he believed. To my surprise, Russell mentioned the 2012 superstar devouring his book and then stealing that specific concept and even thanking Russell for his help. Naturally I expected the player to be LeBron, Nash, Chris Paul, maybe Kevin Durant. Nope. Kobe Bryant. Really? I said incredulously. And that's how I learned that Bill Russell, basketball's greatest teammate ever, held a soft spot for Kobe Bryant. Someone who battled more coworkers over the years than Chevy Chase. Russell enjoyed Kobe's competitiveness. He loved his work ethic. He appreciated his respect for history. And over everything else, he was absolutely delighted that Kobe borrowed his scouting idea. No other player had ever mentioned it to him. Russell admitted their leadership styles were different. Proudly revealing that he never criticized a teammate publicly or privately. Not once. Not once in 13 years. What was the point? Everyone already knew Russell was their best player. Why undermine their confidence? How is that productive? Russell believed a basketball team only achieves its potential once everyone embraces their roles. The less thinking, the better. For example, early in his career, Russell asked bob cousy to find a specific spot on every rebound, about 25 feet away from the opponent's basket. On the left or right side. So Russell could snare the rebound, whirl around and throw koozie and outlet pass all in one motion. After a few months, koozie found the spot, they didn't think about it anymore. Shot spot rebound release go. The greatest fast break in basketball history was born. But that concept fails unless everyone embraces their role. That's the thing. Everyone has to understand the role. In Boston, koozie ran the break, Heinz and filled the land and crashed the boards. Bill sharman, Sam Jones, John havoc, they all handled the scoring. Casey Jones and satch Sanders, they handled the perimeter defense. Bill Russell Hannah, everything else. And the everything else varied from season to season, it even varied from playoff series to playoff series. Russell assessed with the team needed, and he tailored his game accordingly. That's what made him Bill Russell. All right, so how do you challenge teammates with that undermining them? Kobe was still trying to solve that question 15 years into his career. That's why I reached out to wrestle. But Russell had already given the answers in his autobiography, second wind. There's one enlightening section about Sam Jones. One of the NBA's first grade scoring guards, but someone who absolutely dreaded the burden of being great every night. And that drove wrestle crazy. Eventually he learned to accept that they just weren't wired the same way. Sam didn't puke before every big game. He didn't measure his own happiness solely by the success or failure of his team. But Sam happened to be a phenomenally gifted score. Someone who loved taking and making pressure shots, his laconic demeanor worked against him being a legendary player, but for huge moments, it was actually perfect. You could always go to Sam when it mattered. More often than that, Sam came through. Russell always understood Sam was Sam. He'd never bleed basketball like Jerry West did. He'd never obsess over every play like Oscar Robertson did. You are who you are. Bill Russell left Sam Jones alone. So that was one leadership example. When we were sitting in his kitchen in Seattle Russell told us another story after I asked how the Celtics won Russell's last two titles without having a real point guard. They didn't run the triangle offense, so how'd they do it? Going backwards, Russell became Boston's player coach before the 66 67 season, which ended unhappily. Will it sixers demolish this supposedly aging Celtics in the eastern finals? And even worse, during game 5, the deciding game Philly's crowd chanted. Boston is dead. Boston is dead. Boston is dead. The Chan echoed in Russell's ears all summer. After 8 straight titles, the man was not ready to be buried yet. He also wasn't ready to blow up his team, which goes back to what Pat Riley said in the first book of basketball podcast, right? This is hard. Russell wanted to play his best 5 as much as possible. So we asked Larry siegfried to replace the retiring Casey Jones at point guard. One problem. Siegfried was an point guard. This was like asking Gordon Hayward to replace Kyrie Irving. It did not make a ton of sense in 1967. But Russell wasn't hoping for a koozie impression, just someone to dribble from point a to point B call plays start their offense. That's it. Siegfried resisted. He didn't want the added responsibility nor did he want to chase faster players around. Russell gently insisted. No thanks, Larry siegfried said. While the modern solution would be dealing siegfried away, but the Celtics never traded back then. Why? Our back believed that continuity was their single biggest advantage other than Bill Russell. The Celtics only swung one real trade in Russell's 13 years. Mel counts for Bailey Howell. That's it. Amazing but true. So Russell kept cajoling siegfried, never threatening. I'm just appealing to him as a friend. Siegfried relented, but after a few weeks, he decided he didn't like it. He didn't want to play poor anymore. So did the same dance again. And Russell Warren down again. He made it clear this was siegfried's best chance to play. He didn't threaten him. He just laid out the landscape. He said, we have me have a check, Sam, Bailey. All of us need to play. This is your best way to get minutes, Larry. He broke them. And yeah, the Celtics won those last two titles with a shooting guard, bringing up the ball. So much for Boston being dead. As Russell was telling the siegfried story, I couldn't help but wonder how Kobe would have handled it. My Hall of Fame pyramid has 15 guys who rose above everyone else. Jordan, LeBron, Russell, Kareem, magic and bird, will Duncan, Kobe and west, Oscar, Hakeem, Shaq and Moses, and Durant. You would have loved playing with ten of those guys. The other 5? Maybe not. No gray player was more selfish than wilt. Someone who genuinely believed that the best situation for world Chamberlain doubled as the best situation for world's team. Nobody was moodier or more loose than Kareem, a brilliant recluse who couldn't connect with anyone until magic and Riley came along. Nobody was more demanding than Oscar, the league's smartest player, the Russell, but someone who talked down to teammates polluted their mistakes. Left them walking on eggshells. Of course, Oscar was a picnic compared to Jordan. A withering, over competitive bully at times. And if you couldn't handle it, you simply needed to find another team. Meanwhile, Kobe tried to evolve into a withering over competitive bully at times. If only because his idol once acted that way, Russell was different, his battles were always internal. And they never affected his teammates. That's why he's the greatest teammate ever, but he's also the most self aware player ever too. During our second day in Seattle, I asked him why he ultimately stopped playing and the answer was simple. He didn't

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"That ten sites had issues that needed to be corrected but the system will function as it should New Jersey's minimum wage increases to $13 per hour today The dollar jump is part of legislation signed by governor Murphy in 2019 that gradually raises the minimum wage to $15 per hour by 2024 Pope Francis is calling for an end of violence against women in a series of tweets posted Saturday the Pope praised mothers and called on the world to protect women He said that to her a woman is to insult God The tweet echoed the contents of his New Year's Day sermon to the faithful from the Vatican in Rome the mass was the first time since 2019 that the Pope addressed Catholics on New Year's Day after missing 2020s address due to back pain I'm Julie Ryan United Airlines is set to temporarily pay its pilots more in the staff note obtained by NBC News executive Brian quigley said pilots will get three and a half times their pay for flights they pick up between December 30th and January 3rd The incentive will drop down to three times pay for additional flights between January 4th and 29th This comes as the acron variant bad weather and staff shortages hit the airline industry Supreme Court chief justice John Roberts is calling for judicial independence in 2022 In his annual New Year's Eve report on the federal judiciary Roberts called the federal court's ability to police themselves essential for insulating courts from inappropriate political influence This comes after a year of repeated calls for change as the court became the most conservative it's been in nearly a hundred years The Biden administration had been looking into options of adding more justices or limiting term length this year NBA legend Sam Jones is dead Matt Matson has more A spokesperson for the Boston Celtics confirmed he died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting the ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch the Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless and a teammate everybody loved Beaches are closed in parts of Southern California after about 2 million gallons of raw sewage spilled into a Los Angeles harbor a press release from the city of Long Beach says between two and 4 million gallons of raw sewage was leaked into the Dominguez channel Thursday which empties into the ocean A female jeopardy contestant is breaking a quiz show record Amy Schneider won her 21st consecutive game on the popular show making her the first woman to accomplish the feat Schneider then went on to break her own record the next night The jeopardy record was previously held by Julia Collins who won her 20th game in 2014 I'm Julie Ryan And I'm Susanna Palmer in the Bloomberg news room Federal ambulance teams and additional National Guard members are headed for New York City and western New York hospitals are getting more federal help as coronavirus cases and hospitalizations keep on rising This as the State Department of Health on Friday confirmed to 76,555 new COVID cases More than 339,000 tests were reported making New York's daily positivity rate now 22 and a half percent Governor Kathy hoku also said students at state university and the city university of New York will have to get coronavirus vaccine booster shots to be back on campus in the spring semester and must test negative before returning from the holiday break If they're not yet eligible for a booster they have to get one just as soon as they are able to do so Amid all the chaos of the surging virus New York City has a new mayor Iraq Adams was sworn in just after midnight And I.

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"Good job being run and pass bounces very committed to the run You see a lot of affect there's how they can go ahead and stay with it instead of other aspects of their game They have three talented quarterbacks all three have played this year New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 made time the jets also with a four and 11 record and have a date with the Buccaneers this weekend Zach Wilson will start at quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history Head coach Robert sala says he's in awe of Tom Brady's success at his age What are he dreams Someone asked me a lot of questions about health because I need to get out of bed to probably be ease that which he does but he's phenomenal In basketball that's gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday following that game head coach Steve Nash says there are areas where the team needs to be better We didn't play our best and we got a lot of things to clean up but it happens and we'll just keep it moving Elsewhere the Knicks having their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 Meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting that ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch The Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless and a teammate everybody loved and college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bolt 27 to 6 and George a crush's Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson tide will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th with a Bloomberg sports update I met mattson I'm Barry revolt you're listening to masters of business on Bloomberg radio My extra special guest this week is professor Richard nesbitt He is the co director of culture and cognition at the University of Michigan He is one of the most influential social psychologists much of his research has been cited repeatedly by other academics by governments by business his most recent book is called thinking a memoir Let's talk a little bit about some of the impact of your research on geography of thought I'm kind of intrigued by the conclusion that we focus way too much on genetics and we really should be paying a whole lot more attention to the environment the culture and the society Tell us a little bit about that I had studied reasoning for many many years And if you're a psychologist to sort of keep up on the literature on many fields and one of them most psychologists know something about his intelligence but for some reason I got the thinking seriously about the intelligence literature And the more I thought and the more I read the more I realized that psychologists had gotten things desperately wrong With intelligence And there's a book that has all these desperately wrong things and it is called the bell curve and most of your listeners believe what the bell curve tells them They believe that genetics is accounts for 60 to 80% of the variation that you find in intelligence They think that early childhood environment is not all that important unless it's their own kit and they've got to get their desperate to get them in the very best day care situation which is a mistake They underestimate lifetime learning opportunities that make us much smarter or not as the case may be They think that blacks and whites have are separated in their IQ scores on the average by 15 points They think well probably maybe in some of that's genetic They think Asians have higher IQs than your people of European descent And so on And all of that is wrong And I wrote a book called intelligence on how to get it Which shows what's wrong with all of that The arguments are pretty complicated in the case of for example how much of IQ is due to your genes the most interesting thing I can say about it First of all I don't know what the contribution of genes is I know it's less than 60 way less than 80% of the variation And the most interesting and important thing I can say about genes and intelligence is that the contribution to the IQ of a population of upper middle class people only It's about 80% It is huge The variation that you see between people who were raised in upper middle class environments is largely variation that's produced by their genes In this country the contribution to IQ of genes of the lower class is practically zero How could that possibly be Well because upper middle class families are all alike They're like happy families Happy families are all alike Upper middle class families are all alike with respect to cognitive skill that they're very good and there's not that much variation I mean lawyer Smith and businesswoman Jones their kids are all getting essentially the same environment with respect to cognitive skill training So wait let me interrupt you here So when you say the same environment they read their parents pay attention to them They go to even a decent school and so everybody who has that similar upper middle class or even middle class background is going to take the most advantage of their own genetic background But working class students you're suggesting get almost none of that Yeah because of the chaos that you find in many of those families And this has nothing to do with race This has nothing to do with religion This is really everybody just scrapping really hard to make ends meet And it's not the ideal circumstance for raising a child Right And some environments obviously lower class environments or as good as you would ever find in an upper middle class But some of the environments are chaos chaotic and the extreme And not much goes on that's going to facilitate somebody rising to their level.

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"The game could be taken away from you at any moment So with these last two games start up with Chicago I come out here and fight New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 Meantime the jets also with a four and 11 record and have a date with the Buccaneers this weekend Defensive tackle Sheldon rankins says Tom Brady knows everything He's seen it all He's played against it all You know just understand that each and every rep is its own battle is on war Zach Wilson will start at quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history In basketball that's gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday night and that's sitting in second place at the Eastern Conference right behind the bulls Elsewhere the next have their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 They take on Toronto Sunday Meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting the ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch the Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless at a teammate everybody loved And college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bowl 27 to 6 and Georgia crushes Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson tide will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th With a Bloomberg sports update I'm Matt mattson This is Bloomberg opinion on Bloomberg radio bringing you news comments and insights from Bloomberg opinions worldwide team of editors and columnists on Joe short sleeve Coming up on the show refocusing ESG investing and taking a new look at NASA's new telescope But first the USSR is dead but its ideology isn't gone That's what opinion columnist Leonard briski argues in a recent column He tells me there are consequences both human and geopolitical consequences related to the ideology He joined me to discuss his peace Leonid take us through your thoughts Well general ideal of the thesis that even though the Soviet Union sell apart almost exactly 30 years ago as a nation the idea on which it was based which is the extreme leftist idea of maximum equity That is still alive And the consequences of this huge experiment and attempt to build a whole country superpower longer idea the consequences are still alive as well in us plus Soviets What are the consequences geopolitically Geopolitically the consequences mainly have to do with Vladimir Putin's resume and his desire to bring back what he calls historic Russia But the human element there is this huge Russian Diaspora that is mainly a post Soviet phenomenon about 3% of the Soviet Union's population emigrated and the people you hear speaking Russian in Boston and New York and in European service there are no tourists there post Soviets And so these are people who brought little bits of the Soviet Union with them wherever they settled I am no exception I'm sort of a splinter of the Soviet people that historic community here in Germany Then there's the ideal logical element sort of the leftist ideology that is not only alive but appears to be blossoming again in many Western countries Well with regards to what you talked about the population shift and you said between 1992 and 2016 by one estimate some 8.5 million people or 3% of the Soviet population left for good What is it these 8.5 million people want today from the country they left Some of these people are actually very pro Putin and they regret the demise of the Soviet Union they may have forgotten a little of what they what their life used to be like or even for some of them the current life is worse than what they used to have Some others are they fled the moment the borders opened because they never wanted to be part of any such experiment again or didn't want to take its consequences If you add millions who thought they left temporarily wake us actually but ended up staying in the west there is a variety of motives and experiences among this group As the EU threatened by this new Russia so to speak you mean Putin's Russia Yes It doesn't really have strongly expressed interest inside the U it doesn't really have an interest in retaking the Baltics but it clearly does have interest on the EU's borders If it gets aggressive about projecting those interests then the U is going to have trouble on its borders So to that extent it's threatened But again the way I think about the consequences of the demise of the Soviet Union they are not primarily geopolitical In the geopolitical sense Putin's Russia and the Soviet Union are growing very much alike and it doesn't really matter the Soviet Union was bigger that it had these national republics the expansionist idea was there in the Soviet Union and it's fair in Putin's Russia You talk about your childhood there and remembering the low ceilings of drafty and describing the ugly concrete boxes the kindergartens and schools that prepared one for prison as much as a factory a sleepy research institute where our parents pretended to work for pretend to pay And yet you go on to say that there's a poll from the levada center that said that showed that 75% of Russians consider the Soviet period the best in the nation's history how do those two go together It's really hard to understand how people could have forgotten so quickly what it was like it was indescribably awful and everybody was dirt poor except for a small group of criminals It's like Soviet propaganda we still really work in the 80s anymore While the Soviet Union was falling apart now for some reason it's working and it's just perhaps part of this entire leftist revival Leonid brzezinski He is a Bloomberg opinion columnist based in Berlin we appreciate you taking time and sharing your thoughts with us on Bloomberg opinion Thank you Coming up on Bloomberg opinion investing.

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"Job being run and pass bounces very committed to the run You see a lot of affect there's how they can go ahead and stay with it instead of other aspects of their game They have three talented quarterbacks all three have played this year New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 meantime the jets also with a four and 11 record and have a date with the Buccaneers this weekend Zach Wilson will start at quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history Head coach Robert sala says he's in awe of Tom Brady's success at his age What are you doing Someone asked me a lot of questions about health because I need to get out of bed to probably the ease that which he does but he's phenomenal In basketball that's gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday following that game head coach Steve Nash says there are areas where the team needs to be better We didn't play our best And we got a lot of things to clean up but it happens And we'll just keep it moving Elsewhere the next having their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting the ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch The Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless and a teammate everybody loved and college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bolt 27 to 6 and Georgia crushes Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson tide will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th with a Bloomberg sports update I'm Matt mattson Bloomberg opinion informed perspectives and expert data driven commentary on breaking news This is Bloomberg opinion on Bloomberg radio bringing you news comments and insights from Bloomberg opinions worldwide team of editors and columnists I'm your host joke shorts live This week a Cold War with China a move being proposed by some in Congress could lead to one also on the show what could be done to improve the social impact of ESG investing Plus the huge risk NASA is taking with its latest telescope launch But first Congress achieved a rare moment of bipartisanship recently passing the 2022 national defense authorization act The Bloomberg editorial board argues there are some good things in it but ultimately it represents irresponsible budgeting and the huge sum of money doesn't maintain America's military primacy in the world as efficiently as it should Ramesh ratt nazar is one of the editors on the piece and we discussed it this week A bigger defense budget is nothing to celebrate Please explain Well Congress passed and President Biden has just signed the annual defense policy Bill which basically covers a whole range of policies regarding national defense And authorizes a dollar figure for annual defense spending And in this case Congress has authorized a Pentagon based budget of $740 billion which is $25 billion more than what President Biden requested in his budget request And amounts to 5% increase over the most recent Trump budget So it's a significant hike in defense spending And our argument is that what's not clear is that Congress has really thought through what that money is going to purchase and whether it makes strategic sense to do so Ramesh have covered a lot of budget stories in my years but I can't ever really remember one where they were saying you gave us too much money That's the issue though right Sure I mean The Pentagon is never going to say no And Congress knows that And spending on the military is politically popular by and large military remains one of the most respected popular institutions in the United States Even among people on the left Congress knows that increasing the defense budget especially at a time when there are major challenges in the world we're seeing the Chinese in particular rapidly developing new capabilities There is a sense that the United States needs to do more to maintain its military primacy and so Congress is solution is to shovel more money into The Pentagon budget The big question is are they doing so in a clear headed way Are they spending on the right programs Are they funding things that are actually going to help in meeting the challenges of tomorrow Or are we just doubling down on the existing programs at the expense of investments that make more sense I want to hear more about your concern as it relates to China but before we get to that let's talk about some of the programs that you think aren't necessary It's always a matter of choosing priorities when you really drill down into the defense budget It's hard to say that anything is unnecessary Every weapon system has a purpose has its defenders as constituencies who argue that we need a given system or a given weapons platform to meet the challenges we face And the question is are you allocating resources in the most judicious way So I think one simple thing to look at is what are the individual services say they wanted What are the requirements they felt they needed to meet their strategic aims to meet the mission that they have in front of them In the case of the air force for instance they said they requested money to buy 290 new aircraft Now Congress not only granted that request but they gave the air force money to buy 347 new aircraft So a net increase of 57 aircraft that the air force didn't even say it needed or wanted Why does that matter Well it matters because when you appropriate resources whether you like it or not at some point that money comes from something else And in the case of the air force they have a lot of priorities in terms of modernization of new capabilities they want to field And the more money that gets appropriated and designated for existing.

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"Year of missing the whole season knowing the game could be taken away from you at any moment So would you last two games start up with Chicago I come out here and fight New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 Meantime the jets also have a four and 11 record and have a date with a Buccaneers this weekend Defensive tackle Sheldon rankin says Tom Brady knows everything He's seen it all He's played against it all You know just understand that each and every rep is his own battle is on war Zach Wilson will start a quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history In basketball nets gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday night nets sitting in second place in the Eastern Conference right behind the bulls Elsewhere the next half their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 they'll take on Toronto on Sunday Meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting the ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch the Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless and a teammate everybody loved and college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bolt 27 to 6 and Georgia crush his Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson tide will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th with a Bloomberg sports update I'm Matt mattson This is Bloomberg law with June grotto from Bloomberg radio The House.

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"Good job being run and pass bounce rate committed to the run You see a lot of effectiveness how they can go ahead and stay with it and set up other aspects of their game They have three talented quarterbacks all three have played this year New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 meantime the jets also with a four and 11 record and have a date with the Buccaneers this weekend Zach Wilson will start at quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history Head coach Robert sala says he's in awe of Tom Brady's success at his age What are you doing Someone asked me a lot of questions about health because I need to get out of bed to probably ease out which he does but he's phenomenal In basketball nets gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday following that game head coach Steve Nash says there are areas where the team needs to be better And then we got a lot of things to clean up but it happens And we'll just keep improving Elsewhere the next having their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 Meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting that ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch the Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones as selfless and a teammate everybody loved and college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bolt 27 to 6 and Georgia crushes Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson side will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th with a Bloomberg sports update I'm Matt mattson Broadcasting from the financial capital of the world Bloomberg 11 three O in New York To Washington D.C. Bloomberg 99.

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"Advantage of it Speaking of Satan I had to do it last year of missing whole season Knowing the game you take away from people at any moment So with these last two games start up with Chicago got come out here and fight New York sitting at the bottom of the NFC east at four and 11 Meantime the jets also with a four and 11 record and have a date with a Buccaneers this weekend Defensive tackle Sheldon rankins says Tom Brady knows everything He's seen it all He's played against it all You know just understand that each and every rap is its own battle its own war Zach Wilson will start at quarterback for the jets and what will be the largest age gap between starting quarterbacks and NFL history In basketball that's gearing up for a New Year's Day matchup with the Clippers Brooklyn fell to Philadelphia Thursday night net sitting in second place in the Eastern Conference right behind the bulls Elsewhere the Knicks have their three game win streak snapped after falling to the thunder 95 to 80 They take on Toronto Sunday Meantime some sad news in the NBA the Boston Celtics confirmed Sam Jones died Thursday night at the age of 88 The team released a statement noting the ten time NBA champion was nicknamed the shooter and mister clutch the Celtics pointed out Jones playoff scoring average was greater than what he did in the regular season describing him as one of the greatest champions in American sports NBA commissioner Adam silver released his own statement describing Jones and selfless at a teammate everybody loved And college football playoffs the national championship game is set Alabama took care of Cincinnati in the cotton bowl 27 to 6 and Georgia crushes Michigan in the orange bowl 34 to 11 The crimson tide will take on the bulldogs in a title game rematch January 10th With a Bloomberg sports update I'm Matt mattson Broadcasting from the financial capital of the world Bloomberg 11 three in New York To Washington D.C. Bloomberg 99 one to Boston Bloomberg one O 6 one To San Francisco Bloomberg 9 60 to the country SiriusXM channel one 19 and around the globe the Bloomberg business app and Bloomberg radio dot com This is Bloomberg businessweek As the U.S. and really the world of transition from the depths of the pandemic to an economic recovery over.

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"At the Coliseum. He lost the game 54 to Chuck Churn that. Remember that name? Yes, And he was 18. You know if I'm not mistaken at that point, first, his first loss of 59 so Elroy face one of the first relievers. Yeah, He finished 18 and one and I looked it up. You think? Jeez, He must have pitched five before four or five innings every time he really didn't. He had a couple of those mostly just one or two innings, and they always think the game always seemed to be tied when he came in, which is, you know, you don't see that now with the closer, but he was really the first He was sort of the precursor to guys like Baranowski and stew Miller, who became real specialists. You know, let in. And guys you've seen that you know, Joe Page and Joe Black and Clem Labine and guys like that, but but face and Hoyt Wilhelm, really, we're really changed The art of relief, pitching the roles that they were in. And here's a guy who goes because 18 and one I mean good grief 50 through the fork ball, which is which is basically jamming it between the index and middle fingers and and hurl it up there and then the ball tumbles and it goes, he says. I don't know. I don't exactly know. Where it's going, but neither does the hitter. Yeah, Yeah, it was a deadly pitch for him that that game that he lost. It was a co fax game at the Coliseum. He goes into the bottom of the ninth that the lead but was typical Dodgers We have single for Will's a triple by Gilliam and Charlie Neal single, and they got the two runs that they needed, and Wally Moon hit a couple of Moonshots to left field over there or the screen. And pretty pretty classic stuff. But he was, you know, another thing about Roy face in the 1960 World Series at Wild World Series between the Pirates and the Yankees. He saved three. He saved their their three wins going into Game seven. He saved. Um what was the Games 14 and five and he was he stood to get the win in Game seven. But the Yankees rallied against Bob Friend and Harvey Haddox. And then he was he stood a chance to get the get that win, but great picture and, you know five ft eight and he threw really hard. Amazing story, isn't it? Yeah, a good one boy. Elroy face folks should look that one up. Alright, 1959. Let's go to San Francisco Giants and I love this guy, said Sam Jones. For the Giants, and now, think of it. September 12th. They're going down the stretch here and they're chasing the Dodgers in 59. Sam Jones wins his 20th, and he becomes the second African American pitcher to win. 20. Of course, Don Newcombe. Was the first. But, said Sam Jones. He was a terrific giant for a couple of years. Yeah, he really was. I was going to say that to be confused with sad. Sam Jones from the early 20th century, there's a guy who hits for years. He was a teammate of Babe Ruth with the Red Sox and the Yankees sad Sam Jones. He was quite a name and This this Sam Jones. They call them toothpicks. Sam to always had a toothpick and they had to be flat. They don't give him around. When I don't get many of those fancy flavored toothpicks. It had to be plain and flat toothpicks. And but but they took to calling him sad. Sam Jones also, But this guy pitched for, like 22 years, you know, including the Negro leagues, and like you say he, uh, he was a great pitcher for the Giants. He won 21. Games that year that they got him from the Cardinals and the deal that sent Bill White to ST Louis. And that was a big deal is Bill White was a heck of a player. But you know, the Giants have anticipated McCovey. And what the heck are you going to do? And they got they got Sam Jones out of it. He started the first game that ever played at Candlestick in 1960. He's on the mound for that, and more. Did you know that there was a Negro League called the West Coast Baseball Association? Fish in the late forties. Yeah, and they had a team in Oakland called the Oakland Larks. It just lasted one season. A Negro team called the Oakland Larson, Oakland, 1946 and Sam Jones. Pitch for them, So he really didn't have that. Yeah, just unbelievable. He was even done the team in Puerto Rico. The Centaurus a team that had maze and Clemente in the same outfield. They've written, some say, the greatest Winter Winter League club ever assembled. He was Sam Jones was a star pitcher there. So, man, that guy got around. Always great curveball. Great curveball. Uh, you know, he would have guys falling down on his curve ball. And then the thing I always remember about Sam Jones. Is 1956 when he pitched a no hitter, and he's got a no hitter going into the ninth inning, and he walks the bases loaded, walks the bases loaded. He's got a no hitter going and then he strikes out, Grote. Clement and Frank Thomas to and get better. 1st 1st 1st African American to throw a no hitter, Okay? I didn't realize that, okay? Yeah. Good story. Well, that was fun. First Sunday morning, so we'll see Logan Web and Justin Steel. And then the next week we got the Braves and Bob Lurie goes up on the wall of fame. For the Giants will get to talk about that next week as well. So, Bruce have a good Sunday Sounds great YouTube. Aarti. Thanks a million. Well, that is Bruce Jenkins more coming up Carrie Crowley or joined Bill and I, and we've got more coming up right here in these.

The Garden Question
"sam jones" Discussed on The Garden Question
"I would just have to say. Let roses heliborne shade. At least that works there. I just think those beautiful beautiful plants. I love having something that they are january in pops out in its evergreen. All year. I love cone flowers. I just think they're absolutely beautiful. Such a variety of them. That's my summer papers. Your favorite strobe. Edgeworth japanese paper plants. Many people are not familiar with related. Daphne oh dora doesn't die you. I attend your old decide. Last winter by first-stage warranty a- piccadilly farms in bishop georgia. This is twenty years ago. That was where everyone went every february for their hell aboard days. That wouldn't let roses starting become very popular. And i saw this plant. I'd never seen before. I picked it up and the owner walked up to me. He goes all these people. These went roses. You've got the best plan. This entire nursery niche worthy. sam jones. Think assume i took it home and planted in. It just thrived so interesting plant in the winter. It has his third side dan. umbrella looking. Little whitish yellowish flowers that open up tremendously fragrant and then when it leaves sound. It's got a nice real nice forms. Just beautiful structure plans salsa very easy to propagate had to leave my original one at our old house sold it but i had propagated several to take our new house. Think i've got about eight. In the landscape. And i have given once a propagated to dozens and dozens of friends of the southeast. Have a lot of friends who take pictures every year as they flour and still do gracia long plant fiber plant. Well yes. I have so many favorite plants. I love off. Forms of hydrangea. Is i just got a new one. Actually three new ones lashio. Have you seen a autoplex her They're just beautiful. It's a smaller hydrangea. It has said he can green flower. It's just stunning. Like the neighbor. statutes That same green color like many gardeners collect plants. Although i tried to incorporate them the guard so it doesn't like a mess. I love contorted. Filbert's got one in our front yard of miniature one to just i was just the shape of it and it's got a purple Leaf on this magnificent. I just got a new red bud. Because i had one died red but of course one of the first things you see in january february disputable purple flowers. Before everything's leased out eastern sky read. But i think beautiful beautiful Conifers to so many cool ones out there. Our friends at topiary courtyard in norcross diana mark. There they make their annual trip to oregon. They just got back. And i'm always loved to see what they have. Coming on. the trucks in the fall got amazing specimen lance japanese naples interpret conifers cedars. It's just a some of those unusual things. Not that i use. The my landscape is much. But i just love visiting them and seeing different varieties of what's happening and when you think about the time that it took to light that planned into the forms are a stub out this huge investment in in that time. But he's just so rewarding. This could go on and on all day about plants. I love typical gardener for you. I have a new adventure and this talent. Actually in summer in new hampshire..

Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"sam jones" Discussed on Xtra Sports Radio 1300 AM
"It's 11 Phoenix 99 8. Hands it off the booker, Bodied by Tucker Lifter for the South biogas on the other. You protect what a defensive play by the great freak with a minute tend to go in Game four. That's courtesy of the mothership radio over the last three post. Seasons, Yana says 58 blocked shots second most in the NBA, the only person ahead of him. I'll give you 15 guesses. And you still won't get it. Brook Lopez has 75 blocked shots in the last three postseasons. That's your play of the day. Play the day brought you buy em dry Boost and burn the supplement that helps boost energy burned fat. Visit him. Dr dan dot com Free Shipping 60 Day guarantee. Don't let age Beach you re find your prime With em. Drive. Alright, McLovin. Big t. Okay, I mighta overhyped parts of it. You always do oil. Well, I remember it completely different. Okay? How about Larry Bird steals the inbounds pass against the pistol. That was that was pretty special. I thought it was Game seven. I guess it was. It was not Game seven, but the Celtics went on to win the series. Then they lost to the Lakers in the finals. Well, the play is great. You didn't think bird would be able to do it. You're going to lose at home, and the call was great. And And is Larry Bird in the Boston Garden. The Pasadena Dre like that, Al And having been there and covering that and then gone into the locker room. And then that's when you had the controversy after the Celtics won with Dennis Rodman and Isaiah Thomas, and that's where you had the awkward moment where Bird has to like a hastily called press conference, starting the NBA Finals, where he has to say he's okay with Rodman and Isaiah is saying that if Bird was black, he'd be just another basketball player. Whatever. Uh, just awkward. Everything about it? Yeah, McLovin, a similar one that we're getting a lot of tweets about. Havlicek stole the ball transfer over. That's all the call, though. I'm looking at. He just tipped an inbounds pass or something. That wasn't that that wasn't a great Defensive play. I mean, he tipped the ball, but I don't know who got the ball like Sam Jones. God, the person who got the ball. You can tip the ball if nobody gets it or the you know the opposition gets it at night. I'd like for the ball. All right. I didn't really steal the ball. He tipped it. But its Celtic lore, you know, it's Johnny most. Therefore it's a bigger deal. Yes. I mean, I guess if we're just taking into account the era, it's a hell of an athletic play. Uh around. Yes, boy. Here's one that I don't think history is going to be great to that. You know, this could be remembered locally. Brandon Graham Strip sack of Brady in the Super Bowl. Don't know how much time was on the clock. But Brady had the ball and they were going to run down and try to beat the Eagles anagram reached in strip sacked Brady and basically ended that game. Um How about Jeffrey Maier? How good was that Defensive play? Clutch? Yeah. No, like he would have been. Bartman. Is that a defensive player? Offensive play? They counted the home run, right? Yeah, well, you had to play defense for an offensive moment. And he had a myth to a typical 200 yard. 200 Ft. Derek Jeter home running Yankee still show overrated, but imagine you're the umpire. Who is it? Rich Garcia? Was he the umpire where you're right there? Like you're down the right field line. And you somehow missed that call. By the way, I am hearing from Phoenix Suns fans about, uh, the so called egregious foul on Devin Booker. I think if that had been the turned around, let's say Drew holiday did that to Devin Booker. Do I think true Holiday gets called for Fallon answers? Yes, I do. I, You know, the refs don't want to foul out Star players. And Devin Booker had five fouls. It is it Is it a an egregious act by him? No, it's not. But If Phoenix at one that would be the story. That would be the story today that somehow Phoenix Suns got away with Juan Devin Booker got stay in the game and, no, I didn't do anything in the fourth quarter, but part of that was due to foul trouble. And he was shooting mid range jumpers. I know these are little small things that probably you go. Yeah, Who cares? I do. Because he didn't He wasn't taking threes. He was taking mid range jumpers. And and this is what Chris Paul has been able to do his entire career. Kevin Durant, that mid range jumper. It's weird how we don't defend the mid range jumper. You go. You're not getting to the hoop, and you're not shooting three. Oh, you want to take a mid range jumper? Well, I'll take two right? It's It's like a wide receiver who is going to get a like a seven yard catch. And you go. Yeah, you can have that all day. Then, after a while you go. Oh, my God. How many catches does he have? And they keep moving the ball. Devin Booker was shooting mid range jumpers last day. 38 of his 42 in the first three quarters, she asked the club, but it's not like they're easy. Been raised up first, he but But you it feels like the defense does relax a little bit. He floats. He floats a lot. Chris. Paul, it always feels like they're like, Yeah. Go and check those nine footers. Go ahead, take those and then you look up and you go. Oh, my God. He's got X number of points here. Well, it's the mid range jumper. There's a bias against the mid range jumper. Frenchy is sending me the note that it was Rich Garcia, the umpire right field umpire, immediately ruled a home run that tied the game. Despite the protest of the Orioles and then Davey Johnson, the Orioles manager was later rejected from that. Tony Tarasco was the right fielder. This is 1996. The Yankees and Jets were trailing 43 and the bottom of the eighth inning. And then Derek Jeter hit a deep Fly, but when it's not a deep fly ball to right field, it was flying down the right field. And, uh, And then Jeffrey Maier. He reached over the fence, and, uh, Yeah. He did reach over. He does. I have the beholder. Yes. True while baseball fans are permitted to catch and keep balls hit into the stands, Major league Baseball.

NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA
"sam jones" Discussed on NoCo Now ? 1310 KFKA
"Looks good to go now. And it's been more than ten days since last higher so I think there's stick around unlike. The taliban has thirty one. But but i mean the timing kind of worked out. How how we after the hester departure. What we thought. Fair no rush. Just get done before. June before recruiting and and camps. And all that start. That's what happens. Sam jones hired a guy story interesting. His nba overseas coaching experience. But not in college. So i think in a lot ways. That's a unique higher. But it'll be good because if you're You know a a prospect. You're gonna look at that guy and say wow he he will know how to get me to the next level. 'cause he coached at the next level also so yes sam. Jones onboard life. June and camps. They're starting recruiting starting so it is now Even though basketball a longtime away it is just about go time. It is kinda crazy to talk about all that and you know i will say this. We're not really going to get a time kind of catch or breath for you talk about from from high school sports to college. We're not gonna be able to catch our breath before you know we're going to be right back in the middle of all this. Yeah exactly it's gonna be a really rush. 'cause 'cause yeah especially high school i mean we're gonna in the end the jude and then football you know unofficial camps will be starting in late. July and official camps will start in early august. So yeah it's really gonna be A non summer fast summer. Which obviously he's a little bit of a bummer. But let's be real after guy. The absences of of sports that we had for so long. I think we're all ready to get back into the normal sports calendar for next school year. There's there's no doubt about that at all kevin. I think everybody's right there in that boat but it is gonna be interesting one of the things that i'm watching you know is how so even these high school teams are going to deal with because normally like and you know this. There's a lot of. let's go. Air quotes voluntary practices. That go on throughout the summer. And now you know. In june a large portion of that. If you're a part of a successful baseball team is going to be off. You're not going to be able to get to one of those so it's going to be interesting to me to see what that impact has on these teams for the.

Boomer & Gio
"sam jones" Discussed on Boomer & Gio
"There. What is that that was. Susan was a positive tone. Yeah here's the o-on to calhoun hit on the ground. Second torres throws yeah. That was the moment that susan realize that it was going to be a no hitter. She know it that data exact moment we all know it. Yeah okay. i'm trying to see. If can't pull up all those no hitters in yankee history. And yet they hadn't had one won the lot and they got three perfectly. We don't we don't count george. Mma grinds yes sam joel. Just so bummed out funny. They went from fifty six to eighty three without one. Allie reynolds had two of them. So that's what twelve is as we don't count. I one nicknames or said sam jones yankees one to nothing as corey kluber strikes out nine. Just the one run for the no hitter. Aaron boone pretty awesome. It was so much fun to be a small part of imf beyond the team to see corey. Go out there at spin. That pretty cool about spin rate again. We spend it all right. Ends kluber is special night. A you know that never been aren't with one let alone throw one so i think the i guess more than anything just just a lot of fun.

Bob Sirott
Lyft driver shot during carjacking in Chicago's West Garfield Park
"Say. A 48 year old lift driver dropped off a writer than the writer, pulled a gun and tried to take the lift driver's black Dodge Charger. The driver was shot in the chest. Sam Jones. WGN News. Marijuana Sales hit another record high last month. The Sun Times reports that dispensary sold nearly $2.9 million worth of pot every day in February.

WIBC 93.1FM
"sam jones" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Looking like this Well. Headed back to you guys in the studio. I'm all right. Thank you, Hannah. We're gonna take a look also adds a radar. We do You still continue to see snow as we saw on for, at least from mobile news tracker this morning, and here are cameras just from around the state. Snow covered roadways from as far north as Crown point where areas north of us did manage to squeeze out a lot of snow, especially closer to the lakeshore, Then up near the Chicago Land area, 12 degrees and crowns. Point Greenfield at 11 degrees eight in Lebanon this morning, everybody waking up to very difficult. Driving conditions were adding more snow into the mix, not a whole lot, but then something to keep in mind for your morning drive some lighter snow showers. There could be a moderate pocket of rain here and there, but that's pretty much white spread across central Indiana. We do have the heaviest snow well, north and east of us Once we get through mid to late morning, we should see this quickly shipped off to the east as well. No more in store for a primarily dry day. Nine cent o'clock, We'll see a few clouds break apart. I think a lot of us those still underneath quite a bit of cloud cover through the day. Today we'll call it mostly cloudy skies even through mid afternoon and then by around, say, dinner time which sex scene area of high pressure build, and that's going to allow for a little bit of cloud cover to dissipate through the overnight hours, partly cloudy skies, but that's gonna allow our temperatures to drop significantly. The overnight hours. Right now, we are at 10 and Indianapolis nine Chicago 10 in South Bend 13 degrees in Lafayette, or feel like temperatures this morning, our sub zero It feels like it is four degrees below zero Here in Indianapolis six below in Greencastle, six blow. Also up in South Bend, so cold morning pretty much wide spread, and we're actually going to continue to see very cold conditions. As we had it through the day today. We're also tracking an additional wave of some snow as we head through tomorrow and Thursday and then more seasonal looking temperature should arrive as we head through the end of this upcoming weekend. So changes in the forecast will show you all of that here in just a few minutes roadways this morning. Otherwise his hand was showing you near I 4 65 at Rockville Road. Ah, lot of the major interstates and major roadways here this morning, not necessarily in the best of shape still very much snow covered right now. Is very early five or five. But you are going to need to point extra time this morning. You have to take it easy. We have snow on the roadways that is going to impact a lot of speeds out there. So give yourself extra time to get all of the snow off of your car as well. So you're able to see out of all your windows this morning. Otherwise tell mewhat automotive grade traffic map you see, slowing pretty much on every side of the city. They have cleared that stalled vehicle downtown really wasn't causing a huge issue and is this snow mainly is causing the issue here and this is You're 65 near West Rated M. O K Street pretty much snow covered here as well. So there's really no interstate that is looking better than others. There's no city roadways that are clear than others. All of them are quite hazardous. This morning. I 17 years Sam Jones Express where you can see the light snow. You can see the minimal traffic but just look at the interstate. Not clear alongside Sam Jones Expressway So really nothing looking great for you this morning. What's I drive time? 70 from Plainfield to the South, Split.

WIBC 93.1FM
"sam jones" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Think about. Which is Pretty terrible. Then there's the story of Nancy Pelosi. Pretty ugly move as I see it. There was a new member of Congress. The name is Claudia Tenney, representative Claudia Tenney, and because of some vote counting there in New York, she wasn't sat until yesterday or the day before. Back and forth very, very small margin of victory. So she's finally declared the winner. It's a Republican. She's gonna get sworn in. At the original swearing in. Every member was allowed one person to be with them covert rules, things like that. Claudia Tenney, representative Kenny Wants your son to be with her. A graduate of the U. S. Naval Academy. And speaker Pelosi said no Now understand that Nancy Pelosi allowed people to be on the floor. Vote in person who had grown a virus created the plexiglass bubble. To allow people with Cove ID to vote on the floor. But Claudia Tenney, representative Claudia Tenney couldn't have her son with her. Who's a graduate of the U. S. Naval Academy. That's some low class stuff right there. While bone wall says trafficking the W obviously traffic center Looking on the South side ever. SENATE Shelbyville There's a report of crash. Also on the West Side. 4 65 eastbound near Sam Jones. There's a crash..

WIBC 93.1FM
"sam jones" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"Good morning. So we have a lot of issues out there on the road this morning, especially and Greenfield Hancock County Mount Comfort area. This is a live look. I 70 headed eastbound was shut down just before getting the state road nine. This is because of a jackknife semi in this area there now, letting some of those stopped cars around on the left shoulder but no indication that this is getting cleared out anytime soon and looking at the delays behind this, our crews are actually in them, telling us it's about a mile and a half to two mile of stop and go traffic. Behind live look outside, It appears as well and not saying We have another wreck in the same area 70 on the westbound side close to post road. So that is prior to this back up on the eastbound side of 70, but all in all, a rough commute here we have yet a third crash in the same similar area close to State Road nine on 70 that as well on the westbound side, so just a mess. In Hancock County and Greenfield, You're gonna detour around the jackknife tractor trailer. If they're not letting you through onto exit 96 mount comfort and you can get back on after taking county roads at State Road, nine headed in the eastbound direction. Still following a crash as well for 65 this set in North town. Not causing as much of a problem on the southwest side. But it is blocking two lanes close to Sam Jones expressways to just be aware of that Dr Times right now, on the westbound side coming in, as average speeds, I would give yourself extra time because things are rough out there this morning. 70 from playing field to the South, split a 16 minute commute. 36 Avon from 4 65. From Avon to 4. 65 rather 14 minutes in the 1974 from Brownsburg before 65 about a seven minute drive. Okay, Hanna. Thank you. It's 5 53 gaming for a good cause up. Next college sports clubs, including one of butler are helping Children with life threatening conditions..

WIBC 93.1FM
"sam jones" Discussed on WIBC 93.1FM
"You colder temperatures this weekend. Coming up. My full forecast. Always this morning have been tasty for a few spots. This is near. I 65 what we mentioned before. Near State Road. 44 You notice the interstate? Not clear for a lot of drivers. You can see snow in between the lines there. Just take it easy. We are still looking at some accumulating snow for areas south of us as we get through this morning, So I 65 year near state Road, 44. Not in the best of shape, so just be sure to give yourself extra time this morning for your morning, Dr Tom would automotive group traffic map to show crash here along? I 70 west down that they've managed to clean up a bit earlier this morning. No longer crossing any delays, The for commuters and then on the East side, I 17 year Arlington Avenue closer to downtown. It looks like the interstate system here, much better than our Southern communities this morning, North East Side Drive time. 69 from fissures two by 4 65 difficult for minute. Dr Ellison Bill Road from Nobles, built by 4 65 and a 12 minute commute on the Keystone Park way from Carmel's of all creaky, have a quick 17 minute morning drive. 70 thank you at 503. Right now We have breaking news violent night across Indianapolis. Two people are dead and another is in critical condition. After three shootings overnight, police were called the West Brook Avenue around one this morning for a shooting That's just south of Sam Jones. Expressway. Officers tell us on the scene that the victim was found in the back of the house and then a man is in critical condition. After shooting on the northwest side, Police say it happened just after midnight on wildflowers Circle south of West 59th Street. According to NPD, a man was shot in the chest. After some sort of altercation. He's at a local hospital and a woman is dead after she was shot in an SUV on the east side of Indianapolis. It happened around 9 30 last night at 30th Street and Post Road. The victim was the passenger. MPD says. A driver and a child were also inside. Neither of them were hurt this morning. There's no word on suspects in any of these shootings. It is 504 happening today on Capitol Hill. Ah,.

John Williams
Free COVID tests in Chicago's Englewood neighborhood
"And other health services will be given away today in the city's Englewood neighborhood. The event is from 10 am until two PM at 67th and Wentworth. Residents can drive or walk up and get free flu vaccines, HIV testing and personal protection items, diapers and baby formula will also be given away. Sam Jones, w G N News WG

Donna and Steve
Tina Fey, Ted Danson Comedy Series Ordered at NBC
"NBC just gave a series order to a currently untitled series created by Tina fey and Robert Carlock starring Ted Danson as a wealthy businessman who is unexpectedly elected mayor of Los Angeles there's currently no time frame or episode count for the series but NBC is apparently so confident in it that it gets to go straight to series for NBC the series is about a wealthy businessman runs for mayor of Los Angeles for all the wrong reasons once he wins he has to figure out what he stands for gain the respect of his staff I connect with his teenage daughter all while controlling the coyote population this is incredible it's gonna be so great I mean those are the things are on the mind of an LA mayor everywhere this is gonna be great the show has been worked for over a year and was written specifically for Ted Danson what what a career for Ted Danson they have already announced that this will be the final season of the good place and so he already has his next thing it's right there at home for him on NBC he's a nice guy too I think he's a nice person and people like working with yes oh goodness who who did I hear a podcast with darn it I can't remember if it was off camera with Sam Jones perhaps a long form podcast interview with him and he is he's just you just want to talk to yeah I

WIBC Programming
Student arrested for posting vid of himself shooting AR zombies in school
"A southern Indiana high school student now facing expulsion after. Being arrested for posting a clip from the video game that appeared. To, show a school shooting at his high school eighteen year old Sean small was arrested for intimidation After posting a video from the zombie augmented reality game but lets you use your own locations from your phone. The video posted to Facebook, showed small shooting zombies inside Scott's Berg high

University Of Colorado Basketball
One-handed LB Shaquem Griffin drafted by Seattle Seahawks, reunited with twin brother Shaquill
"The broncos in the sixth round of the nfl draft denver takes highlands ranch native sam jones jones knows there were thirty one other teams that could have taken him is just means so much to me that i get to stay here and the broncos team that i grew up rooting for and and in a state that i love it's it's incredible jones played offensive guard at arizona state the scouting report on the thunder ridge graduate says he possesses impressive athleticism and constantly battles and that he'll need to add a little more strength overall the broncos have now taken a defensive and too wide receivers a running back defensive back linebacker tight end and guard a historic day for the nfl with a draft of chakib griffin at this year's nfl scouting combines akeem griffin's forty yard dash in four point three eight seconds was the events fastest by a linebacker in fifteen years from an amputee without a left hand and today the central florida's stars taken to the fifth round of the nfl draft by the seattle seahawks leaving him speechless it was i couldn't breathe i didn't know what to say when i was trying to get the words out best of all one of griffin's new teammates is his twin brother shaquille a seahawk cornerback joey wahler abc news the boulder county sheriff's office wants to store weapons in gun safes at schools sheriff's deputies say say it takes too long for officers to get the lion's middle and senior schools and niwa high school in the event of a school.