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"sam hubbard" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"All right, couple more teams I wanted to hit. I think the consensus is since he's fine, Burrow's better, we'll be hearing from them. Couple of red flags. Over under on FanDuel right now is eight and a half wins. They're three and three. So that makes me a little suspicious. Like why is there over under nine and a half? There's been some action. You look at their next six. At San Francisco this week. Buffalo home, Houston home, at Baltimore, home Pittsburgh at Jacksonville. Maybe six playoff teams in a row. Pretty good. And from what we've seen from Cincy, I trust, I personally trust them a little more than most because we watched them last year. They got better as the year went along. They have an excellent defensive coordinator. They have talent on both sides of the ball. As Burrow gets healthier, he's just gonna win games by himself. But the line this week is weird and it moved down a little bit. It didn't move down as much as I thought. We got Sam Darnold almost definitely QBing for the 49ers and kind of a must win game for the Bengals in some degree. Because if they go three and four with them, they're playing five straight AFC teams after that. All of them are potential playoff teams. I don't know, they just gotta show up. They're 21st in DVOA, 23rd offense, 19 defense. We just have not seen a lot of signs yet. I know you monitored that team pretty closely. What are you seeing? I believe in them. I think there is a, I spoke to Lou Annaromo, who's their defensive coordinator, and he's talking to them about how their defense has actually been leading the way the last few weeks and their offense is, which usually is, it's Burrow and Chase and Higgins and Boyd and everyone follow us and the defense holds your own. Defense has been really good. And you have all these young guys. They lost Jesse Bates. They, in the last couple of years, they've lost Eli Apple and Von Bill and all these guys in the back. And they've got all these young ones, Cam Taylor Britt, who shut down D.K. Metcalf. This other kid, Turner, out of Michigan, who's been good. So how do you, he goes, we have something that the Yankees used to have. And I was like, all right, here we go. Baseball, what do we got? He's like, we have a core four on our defense that hasn't changed. It's DJ Hill, DJ Hill, DJ Reader, Sam Hubbard, and Trey Hendrickson. And in the last few years, those guys, they don't miss games. They always show up. And they're the ones who kind of lead the way. And then you've got your Assai and Jermaine Pratt. And I could just, I could do whatever naming names, but the core four. And I'm like, oh shit. So offhand, I was like, I was in a conversation with him. I'm like, all right, let me try this. I'm like, all right, we got Mariano. We got Jeter. We got, I'm like, who is, we got Pettit. Do you know who the fourth of the core four was, Bill? It was Bernie Williams. I thought so too. Jorge Posada. Oh, it was Posada, you're right. I was like, I was like, who's though? Cause they, Bernie predated all of them. Bernie was there and Andy Stankiewicz and Pat Kelly years. We could talk early nineties, Yankees, if you want. I'm here for that. That sounds horrible. All that. So who's Jeter out of those four, Hendrickson? I guess, right. And he's a free agent signing. They got from New Orleans, but he's been one of the best free agent signings in football over the last few years. And Hubbard, Cincinnati kid, went to Ohio State. He's probably Jeter. He's like their guy. But I say, these are not household names. There is not a Miles Garrett. There is not a TJ Watt. There's not a Micah Parsons. And yet that's what kind of gets it. And to me, you're mentioning Jacksonville and Pittsburgh and Baltimore. And it's like, no one's played in bigger games than those players. And to me, good quarterbacks too. Yes. And whatever happens at halftime. And Lou's pretty honest with it. He wanted that Arizona job last year. And I went to Jonathan Gannon and that's fine. They went their direction. But like, there's no one better in football than that guy at halftime adjusting and confounding these opposing quarterbacks, whether it be Mahomes all those times or Josh Allen all those times. So when you listen- We're Sam Darnold this weekend. And exactly right. So when you're listing these teams on paper, it's like, oh yeah, wow, those are all playoff teams. But to me, I think the Bengals and their defense, they can hang with any of those teams. And I think they're as well coached as anyone on the defensive side of the ball at the very least that they'll be able to hang with those squads. And I think we'll be talking about them in January, even so. And then there's the burrow it factor that came two weeks ago. And they were like, Joe just wasn't losing that game. Like all the teammates talking about it. Yeah. Cause you could flip it around and go, all right, they got Sam Darnold this week. They have banged up super weird Buffalo next week. They got a super young Houston team after that. At Baltimore, they always play them well. Home Pittsburgh, the Michael Myers team, but you know, Kenny Pickett on the road is gonna get to 20 points. And then at Jacksonville, all those are winnable. To me, that's five wins. And one of those, the Baltimore thing's interesting. So Baltimore and Cincinnati, you think of the great rivalries, you think of Baltimore and Pittsburgh. Like I could tell you, no one coaches on both sides of the ball. Like they don't like each other in Baltimore. So when Lamar was having his MVP season, they would put up 50 on the Bengals and Bengals were awful. It was like early Zach Taylor years. And then last year when Lamar was out and it was like Huntley and Cincinnati, obviously was looking to put it to them. And it goes back and then they had that great playoff game last year. So Baltimore, Cincinnati, like that's an underrated rivalry. And I think before we crowned the Ravens, like the Bengals aren't done yet this season. I could see them coming from behind here. FanDuel seems to think they're dumb because the over under being at eight and a half says to me that the sharps out there aren't believers. I think that's too low. The other one, San Francisco's over is 11 and a half on FanDuel. And I was like, man, that seems low. And then I was like, man, that seems high. And I just, I don't even know what to think. Like, who knows? The Patriots are playing at Miami this week and Miami is super banged up. Like we're taping this on Thursday morning. I don't know if Tyreek's playing. I don't know if Mostert's playing. They're already missing a bunch of guys on the Miami side. Their offensive line is not good and really has not been good. Lombardi's talked about this on his podcast about how everything McDaniel does is basically to disguise the fact that his line can't block and he's just really good at it. But there's some games when, Pats played pretty well against them and Mack cost them the game a few weeks ago. The Pats are getting nine and a half. The Pats, next five after this game, they have home Washington, home Indy, bye week at Giants and then home Chargers. And I saw that and I'm like, am I getting sucked back in? Can somebody just hit me over the head with a baseball bat? I don't want to get sucked back in. I was rooting for them to tank five days ago, Shrigs. Turn the TikTok camera on.
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"sam hubbard" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"The Cowboys beat them 17-10 in a game that can be described as not a great coaching duel. I think is fair. Can we now officially say the Chargers made a mistake in retaining Brendan Staley after last year's playoff debacle? You know, I hate to say yes, because, you know, after three years... You can say yes, it's okay. Because, you know, I'm a person who believes me, a coach should get three years. But, yes, you know, we've seen enough already. And that's why I keep trying to give the Chargers more chance, because they have so much talent. Tom Telesco, he has his issues too, but he's given Brendan Staley a great roster on both sides, offense and defense. And then you hire a good OC, and even that's kind of been a struggle with Kellen Moore, because I saw some mistakes from Kellen Moore. I did write that the Cowboys still made the wrong decision to make Mike McCarthy, or make Mike McCarthy make himself the offensive play caller, because they're still trying to figure that out. And they were kind of clicking with Kellen Moore there, but that's a different issue. And when I left that game, so if I say on Monday night, you know, I was trying to debate with myself, was it the offense fault or the defense? You know, Justin Herbert was off his game, he missed a couple throws. But, you know, I kept going back to all the flags on the defensive side, like Derwin James, you know, getting those dumb penalties, being undisciplined. You know, I don't even think they got a takeaway. I'm trying to remember if they did. Well, they got the muff punt there, but... Yeah, I was going to share the fumble punt. The special teams. But on defense, you know, all your guys are healthy. And at one point, I kept asking myself, where is Joey Bosa? He's supposed to be your best player, better than Derwin James, and he's not popping out. Kellen Moore kind of sacked there. They got pressure. They did. But you want to see more from Brandon Staley and his background, his defense in year three, because I've heard all the excuses, Matt, in the first two years. Last year was injuries. The first year was we're trying to learn a complex game. Everybody's running the same system nowadays. It's a trend. It's a big fan, Joe. People are doing it much better than the Chargers, so it's not going well. You know, I've never been critical of the fourth down, because maybe I just like to watch exciting football and go for it and go for it. You have Justin Herbert, but even some of these plays over the years have been so questionable, and now it's falling on Kellen Moore there. So you know, they had so many opportunities to win that game, and I chose the Chargers because they were coming off a bye week. You have two weeks to prepare for the Cowboys. You go up the field on the first drive. You score. After that, a lot of ugly football, a lot of questionable decisions, a lot of flags. So, you know, this Brandon Staley thing, you know, being two and three, going to KC now, if you're going to fall two and four, I think after that we could say you're done, give the Chiefs another AFC West title, and then you seriously got to consider letting go of Brandon Staley. So, look, Telesco—first of all, I agree with everything you said, and Telesco is a guy who I think has brought in a lot of talent there. This is the first year in a while. I feel like when I watch them, they're just not as talented as they were, and my rationale for that is, so J.C. Jackson was brought in, big ticket, free agent, didn't work out. Okay. They lost Drew Tranquil in the offseason, who was a really good player for them last year, who they somehow lost to the Chiefs, and they replaced him with Eric Hendricks. Eric Hendricks was once a very good football player. He's not anymore. I like Asante Samuel Jr. I think he's a very good player, and Derwin James, obviously, is a great player. Mack has turned back the clock and fought—now, granted, six of his seven sacks came in one game, but they happened, and Morgan Fox has played really well for them. He has five sacks. He's done a nice job. He has more sacks than Joey Bosa does, but when I watch them—and, again, part of this is also Lindsley's hurt, and Williams is out for the year. When I was watching them against Dallas, I kept thinking to myself, if they don't get the ball to Keenen Allen, they're screwed. There's nowhere else to go on this team. Quinton Johnston, not saying he's a bust. It's early in his career, but he has not done it yet. Austin Eckler is fantastic, but you're going to throw to your back how many times in a game? I mean, realistically speaking, even if he has eight receptions, what's he going to have? Fifty-five yards? I mean, okay. If they don't get the ball to Allen, it's a whole lot of Joshua Palmer. It's a whole lot of hoping Quinton Johnston can get open. It's a whole lot of Gerald Everett. Look, I'm not saying Gerald Everett is not a decent player, but you're not scared of Gerald Everett. You look at them, and it's got to be Keenen Allen. It has to be Keenen Allen. If it's not, they're just screwed. Part of that, again, is, of course, the injury to Mike Williams. But now when I watch them, it's just like, yeah, if you can stop Keenen Allen, you win. Because there's nowhere else to go with the football. To the point about Telesco, first of all, I think Telesco has done largely a good job. But if you go back, I've got their draft history in front of me, and I'm not going to bore everybody to death at the whole thing here. But let's even just go back to 2016, the year they drafted Bose the third overall. They took Hunter Henry in the second round. Everybody else was a complete no-name player. Henry was there for a few years, and he's had a decent career. 2017, Mike Williams in the first round. Excellent pick. After that, they had Desmond King and Ray Sean Jenkins, guys who started out... Well, King started out very hot for him. He was an All-Pro, and then kind of petered out. Jenkins, who's made more of a career in Jacksonville than in LA. 2018, Derwin James in the first round. Phenomenal pick. Then they took Uchena Nwosu, who's a damn good football player, but he's not on the team anymore. He's now in Seattle. Everybody else, non-entity. 2019, they really whiffed on their first round there, and it happens. It's going to happen to everything. Jerry Tillery, it didn't work out. Nasir Adderley looked like he could have been halfway decent. He retired early. Drew Trenk was their best pick in the fourth round. He's gone. Pipkins they got in the third round, a decent pick. 2020, Herbert, of course, knocked it out of the park. After that, I was a big fan of Kenneth Murray coming out. It has not really panned out to be what you'd hope it would be. Then the last couple of years, I'm not going to judge it. It's too early, although Asante Samuel Jr., an excellent pick in the second round. The rest of those guys, eh. My point is this. They've done a very good job of drafting in the first round. But after that, they don't draft players that contribute. When they do, like a Uchena Nwosu, that guy's a really good player, he leaves. He's out the door. Drew Trenkle, he's gone. How do you let that happen? I think it's a collective failure, but Stanley, to me, is the biggest problem right now. They just don't play winning football. They make way too many mistakes. As you point out, especially on the defensive side, where you came in as a defensive coach, they should be really good defensively, and they're one of the worst teams in the NFL defensively. Matt, going off of the drafts there, that's probably when I say, Tom Telesco, he has issues, but everybody likes to focus on the first round. I'm not saying it's super easy to nail the first-round picks, but the odds are higher for you to get that. Yeah, Herbert, Bosa, Derwin, I could keep going on and on, but the teams that draft in the back end, there's a reason why the Rams were able to be aggressive every year and trade their first-round picks, because they were hitting. They were hitting in the back end. Obviously, the Chiefs are always hitting on draft picks there. You were talking earlier this week in the meeting about the Chiefs reinventing themselves. They do that defensively every year with these draft picks. Some guys got to go because you got to pay Patrick Mahomes and then keep hitting and hitting and hitting. And with Tom Telesco, he hasn't done that. And the stat I always go to is not even about the draft, Matt. He's been there 11 years, zero AFC West titles. The Chiefs have seven in a row, and the Chargers have never gone past a divisional round in 11 years. What type of GM gets that type of leeway throughout the league, like without a Super Bowl or going that far or winning a division title? So I think at the end of the year, Matt, at the midst of playoffs, you need a full, clean house here for James Spanos. You got to try something new and make it work, because you have way too much talent. And you pointed out, Matt, they have injuries, but injuries happen everywhere across the league. This team is always in one-score games. They keep losing them. People point to injuries, bad luck, cursed team, whatever, no fans, that viral fan that went crazy. But there's issues here, and it's been 11 years of a big sample size to try to figure it out. So I think something needs to change from the top to the bottom. No question. I agree with you. I think it's time maybe for a little bit of a full gut to nail that point home. And by the way, you mentioned earlier your piece on Kellen Moore. I thought it was excellent. I hope people check it out. Thank you. I agree with you. I think you're right on. But look, next year, the Chargers are already well over $30 million above the projected salary cap for next year, and they have Khalil Mack on a $38.5 million cap number. That's not happening. He's gone. Joey Bose at $36.6 million. I always kind of assumed he's definitely going to be back, but I don't know. I don't know where this thing's headed. Mike Williams, $32.4 million. They have to think he's gone after this year with the injuries. Keenan Allen, $34.7 million. Like, of those four guys, at least two of them are gone. At least two of them are gone. Eckler's a free agent. You would imagine he's gone after the way that went in the offseason. I mean, they just... It's time, frankly, unless something drastic changes this year, it's time to reboot that day. It is time to just rebuild and try to get it going around Herbert for the rest of his prime, because right now it's not working. Lastly, in the storylines where we get to our bigger story section, we can be brief on this one. Just kind of a check-in point here. Who's your AFC favorite right now? I think it's got to be one of Kansas City, Miami, or Buffalo. Where do you land on those three as your favorite, or do you have a team outside those three that's your favorite? Yeah, we keep going back to the Kansas City Chiefs, because we've seen them before. They're not playing the best offensively. They still got to figure it out. Maybe they do something at the trade deadline, or maybe, like you mentioned, no Eric B enemy. They got to figure it out, and they'll be fine at the end of the year. The defense is outstanding, but teams are losing every single week, and we can't just go off the team that's undefeated anymore, because nobody's undefeated. Part of me wants to say the Dolphins, but when they lost that Bills game in Buffalo, I'm like, that was your moment to really show that this team is like, obviously they're Super Bowl contenders, but are you like a legit, bonafide number one team? If they go to Philly and they beat the Eagles, then okay, Dolphins, I'm with you guys. You could probably be the number one team in the AFC, but we haven't seen that signature win just yet, so I'm going with the Chiefs. Credit to you, last week, being critical of the Bills, they had another clunky game. They probably should have lost to the Giants there with Tyrod Taylor in a third string left tackle and a bunch of injuries there, so the Bills are not right either. The Jaguars are surging a little bit. The Bengals are surging here, but I think it's still the Chiefs after six games. Yeah, I would agree. Look, the Chiefs have to figure out the receivers. That right now is clearly their big issue. Rashee Rice is good as a rookie. I think he's going to be a pretty big player for them, but yeah, outside of Rice, you don't know what you're getting every week, and you can't rely on a rookie to just be the guy alongside Kelsey week in and week out. That's dangerous sledding. I think the Chiefs kind of are like the Eagles right now. Where you look at them and go, you know they're going to be there, but they're not really hitting on all cylinders. I mean, Philly hurts at seven interceptions, and they've kind of muddled through. They were so-so against New England, so-so against Washington, and lost to the Jets. The Chiefs, it's weird in a sense. Not only have they won, they've actually covered in most of their games, but it's because the defense has been incredible, and the offense is kind of just, eh, 23 points a game or so, and ho-hum, but I think with both Kansas City and Philadelphia, you look at them and go, at some point it's coming. I mean, they're just too talented. At some point, they're going to figure it out. I would say it's the Chiefs with one eye on Cincinnati if they could ever get that figured out. But Cincinnati has played awful offensive football in the three-and-three, but they come out of the bye this week. They have a bye. Then they play at San Francisco and home to Buffalo. We're going to find out real quick what Cincinnati is all about, and speaking of which, dovetails perfectly. I'd like to say I did it on purpose, but I didn't. The bigger story, so the Bengals beat Seattle last week, 17-13, the game that was offensively pretty good in the first half, then really bogged down in the second half. Is the bigger story that the Bengals won the game against a good football team in the Seahawks, or is it that Cincinnati's offensive woes just continue to plague them? I think it's the first one. You just need a big-time win there, going into the bye week, and with Joe Burrow getting better every single week. It's tough to say, was Joe Burrow's calf acting up again, or they just played a really good Seahawks defense with good corners and good pass pressures like you mentioned. I think you just take the win, especially after I kept looking at the schedule. I'm like, okay, they're winning games, but are they going to rebound playing the Seahawks, Bills, and 49ers in three consecutive weeks? I could make or break your season there. So to come out to get that win in a very close game there, and the defense bailed them out. Sam Hubbard, Hendrickson, Hill, those guys were amazing for a loose defense there. So shout out to that Bengals defense, because I feel like people always overlooked them. People were talking about the Browns and the Jets and even the Raiders defense, but the safety from Max Cross was like, sometimes you got to give love to the Bengals defense, and they came through because the Bengals offense wasn't there. That's a little bit concerning, but I think they just needed that win. After what we saw in week one or week two, to go three and three into the bye week, I think they'll take that all day. I think they'll definitely take the record. At this point, with the way things have gone, no question, I agree. I'll take the other side of it, although I could have gone either way here. I don't necessarily even disagree with you. I just think there's a way to look at this right now that if you're a Bengals fan, it's got to change coming out of the bye week. It has to change on offense, because you're going to play the Niners and the Bills. You've got Kansas City down the pike. You've got Jacksonville down the pike. You've got to go to Baltimore. You've got to get rolling here a little bit. Now, I wanted to pull up a few numbers. Joe Burrell, let's just start with the basic stuff. Right now, he's averaging 5.3 yards per attempt, which is toward the bottom of the league. That is a rough number. He has a 39.9-cubed yard, which, if you're not familiar, goes from 1 to 100. It's an ESPN stat. He ranks 26th in the league. He had a good game against Arizona, where he completed 36-46 for .317, 6.9 yards per attempt, 3 touchdowns on a pick. Other than that, his yards per attempt has been 5.3, 5.5, 5.3, 5.4, 2.6. It has been a struggle, to say the least. Now, try to dive a little bit deeper, and Pro Football Reference does a great job with this. They give you all these different advanced numbers. I'm not an analytics guy by any means, but I think it's interesting. They have a stat called intended air yards per pass attempt. Obviously, if you throw the ball 10 yards down the field 10 times, 100 divided by 10, you average 10. Jordan Love leads the league in this, in 9.8, which I never would have thought. Joe Burrell is dead last. It's 6.1, and there's 33 quarterbacks who qualify. I'll tell you one thing that's interesting. He's 33rd. 31st? Patrick Mahomes. Oh, wow. Yeah, underneath. Now, here's where it gets a little more interesting. Completed air yards per pass attempt. Brock Purdy ranks first, by the way, in case you were wondering. Mahomes, he still ranks at the bottom, well, toward the bottom, 29th. He's tied with Kenny Pickett and Daniel Jones. Joe Burrell, dead last behind Bryce Young by a healthy margin. You look at it, and you start going, okay, well, what's going on? Now, here's the other number that I want to toss in there because I think it adds context. On-target percentage, just good throws, solid throws. You're hitting the guy where you're supposed to be hitting him. Mahomes ranks second to Dak Prescott. So he's throwing the ball shorter, but he's just dotting guys up. He's hitting them. They're moving the ball. Burrell ranks 28th. So not only is he throwing the ball short, he's really inaccurate. You can get away with throwing the ball short. By the way, Kenny Pickett is dead last. So Kenny Pickett with a lovely combination of I'm going to throw the ball two yards and throw it at your feet. But Joe Burrell, 28th. So it's like, yeah, man, I can live with you throwing underneath with this calf thing, but if you're not even accurate with it, now we've got a real problem. They come out, they play the Niners, they play the Bills. I'm not saying they've got to win both of those games. You've got to win one of them. Like, you fought a three and five, and, yeah, you're not out of the race. I'm not throwing dirt on you, but you've got a problem. Because after that, it's Houston, which is actually playing pretty well, then it's at Baltimore, home to Pittsburgh, at Jacksonville. Not easy. Not an easy play. And the last three games are at Pittsburgh, at Kansas City, and home to Cleveland. Like, it's hard. So I am very interested to see what we get out of Cincinnati here. Going to have the bye, rest a little bit. What does that thing look like as you're coming out of the bye week? Yeah, Matt, the only thing I want to add here, I feel like the AFC North, no team is going to create separation. I'm so unsure about the Ravens. They're four and two, but I find myself feeling like, okay, I don't really care for this team. They're kind of born offensively, and they haven't figured out their identity yet. And then the Browns, are you going to score points to help out your defense? Who knows? And the Steelers will have Kenny pick it. So maybe it could be just a nine- or ten-win division here. Who knows? We'll find out. You know, it's funny you said that, because I was watching that Ravens-Titans game over in London, and I was like, every year there's a team. I don't know what the hell's happening. Like, I can't figure out if they're good, they're bad. The Ravens are that team for me. I watch them, and there are moments you watch them, and you're like, man, they're really good. And then there are other moments you watch them, and you're like, how the hell did they lose to Gardner Minshew and Kenny Pickett? And you're like, well, it's because they dropped 37 passes, and they turned the ball over a ton, and the defense is weird. Like, I kind of think they're just a good team that maybe can win a playoff game, and that's probably it. But yeah, it's a weird... They're very hard for me. Even Lamar. Like, Lamar's that quarterback for me. I'm not saying he's not good. He's obviously very good. But there are games when you watch him where you're like, man, he's one of the best three quarterbacks in football. And then there are other games you watch him, and you're like, he threw for $1.20 and a pick. I'm like, what the hell happened? Like, it's very odd. They're just a very strange team. So I agree with you. I don't think anybody's going to be running away with the AFC North. Yeah, I feel like with Lamar, they're trying to make him run less and throw more, and it's maybe a little uncomfortable for him at times. Like, he wants to be true to himself. But he's older, and you've got to keep him healthy, and I think maybe this might pay off in the long run. But right now, it's not working. And what's going on with Rashad Bateman? And you paid Odell Beckham like $15 million? Like, that's not working. Unless you've got Zay Flowers, and you've got Mark Andrews, as always. But they're missing more firepower.
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"sam hubbard" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"Yep. You know, Atlanta's defense, I thought they played well, especially at the end of that game, you know, they're, you know, Grady Jarrett getting back there and trying to get the ball back. And Ryan Nielsen, I think has actually done a really nice job. I think he's probably the guy. And quietly, quietly has the best mustache on the Falcons coaching staff. Sorry, Arthur. It is. Some guys can do it and some guys can't. And it always makes me wonder, you know, if you're, if you're getting work done in that, are you getting that like steam pressed? Are you getting that, you know, is there some sort of additive there? There has to be like, there has to be some product, right? I would think. Yeah. I think you're, I think you're juicing a little bit. Cincinnati in Seattle. I mean, on paper, probably one of the bigger games of the week, but also the, you know, the Bengals are just like, no, we're good now. We're back. Nothing to worry about here. We're, we're beating good teams again. I still don't know how borough is existing on the field and playing every down and stuff, but that's what it is. And that's where we're at. I, so I, I thought, I think they did a really good job to get to the by three and three, like, and I think like to be able to win two in a row now and Joe put together, I think six quarters are really good football. They weren't as good in the second half. Right. But six quarters are really good football, four against Arizona, two against Seattle. And now he's got a two week layoff until his next game. It feels like that's a team where it could really come together with them. Cause the defensive line won that game. Like if you watch the end of that game, like it was Trey Hendrickson, Sam Hubbard, DJ reader, BJ Hill with a big play at the end of the game, like the D line won that game for them. And the secondary build them out in big spots in the second half, Mike Hilton had a pick, Cam Taylor, Britt had a pick.
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"sam hubbard" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"You come into this game, the Bengals defense first two weeks gave up a ton of rushing yards. One of the worst rushing defenses in the NFL. They corrected themselves against the Rams. Gave up sixteen points but really gave up like nine in the garbage ton touchdown. Do you like, even with clearly a not one hundred percent Joe Burrow, do you like the Bengals on the road? They're laying one and a half in Nashville. Or do you think Tennessee runs the ball? They exploit what Baltimore and Cleveland exploited and they find a way to win this game. Besides that Chargers game, these Titans have been very terrible. I do like Cincinnati to pull one out. It's kind of like that Rams game where you're not right but you need to win here. The Rams are not obviously in the class of the Bengals. One leg, Joe Burrow was enough. I really like that defense. They're underrated every single year. You still got Trey Henderson doing his thing. Sam Hubbard doing his thing. I know they lost some guys on second there but they're still doing well this defense here. When you're playing Ryan Tannehill, and I know you still have Derrick Henry, but they had less than a hundred yards. I know the Browns are a good defense but you got to get at least a hundred yards in the game though. You should, yes. Say the Bengals do what they do and they hold the Titans to what, like thirteen or fourteen points? I could definitely see that. If you're Joe Burrow and you're Hobbled, man, all you need is to get twenty points. Throw a couple bombs if you can because that is a good defensive front for the Titans. The Titans have a very good defensive front. That could maybe hurt Joe Burrow because Aaron Donnell and a bunch of young guys were getting pressure on Joe Burrow. But credit to Joe Burrow on Monday. Raheem Morris kept baiting him. Hey, take your deep shots. Get away from the pocket. Test that leg. Do your thing because if you go deep shot, we have a bunch of guys here with the roof on the coverage here. He was patient, Joe Burrow. A little kind of dinking and dunking. He didn't get too frustrated at times. By the third quarter, they opened up the game. So I could see something similar here for this Tennessee game. If it was somebody else, they have more firepower offensively, then I probably would have gone the other way because the Bengals don't look right. I was the one that got the short end of the stick for the Monday night double header this time around, Matt, because that was an awful game to watch here. But I think the Bengals do enough and then suddenly they're two and two, but they're kind of, if they do win, they won't feel like the two and two of last year, I think. Because they do have a lot of problems, but I think they'll get to five hundred this week. Well, I would like to point out that, well, yes, you did get so much short end of the stick because that game was terrible. Bucks-Eagles wasn't exactly an instant classic on my end. I was researching for the entire second half, the Bucks' first down offense throughout the year, and I kept coming back. You ever do a math problem where you keep getting two different answers every time you go back through it? I filed like a half hour late and I was apologizing to our night editor. I'm like, look, man, I can't figure out what the hell is going on. And what I finally realized was one of the plays was nullified because they were like offsetting fouls, and so it was screwing up all the averages. I was not pleased. By the way, the moral of that story is the Buccaneers need to stop running the damn ball on first down. My God, the team is atrocious running the ball on first down. But hopefully you already knew that because maybe you read the article on Monday night. Look, I'm to a point here where I look at the Titans and I say, if Derrick Henry doesn't beat you, they're just not going to beat you. And I think Lou Anaromo is a damn good defensive coordinator and knows that, hey, we probably ought to clamp down on Derrick Henry here and not worry that much about the rest of the Titans offense. Everybody was excited about DeAndre Hopkins and what could he bring and what could he do and where is this offense going to go? Well, so far this offense stinks. They can't move the ball. And Tannehill is looking borderline washed up. As you mentioned, I mean, they didn't have a hundred yards of offense. That's impossible. Tannehill has already thrown three picks all in week one, but you'll get that box score against the Browns. I mean, that's a full-blown horror show, okay? There is no other way to put it. The Titans hit 94 yards. They had six first downs. They had the ball for only 21 minutes and 31 seconds. They took eight penalties for 80 yards. And oh, by the way, on third down, they went two of 12. They averaged 2.1 yards per play, okay? Tannehill was sacked five times in the game and the Titans ran 15 times for 26 yards. Now, the Browns have been amazing defensively. I don't think the Bengals are quite going to hold the Titans down like that, especially after a game like that. You would think that the offense comes out with a little bit of vim and vigor, if you will. But I think the Bengals find a way to win the game. I don't think it's pretty. It's probably ugly. The Titans know defensively they're going to come with it, especially with that front.
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"sam hubbard" Discussed on The MMQB NFL Podcast
"The Ravens get together this week. The Ravens won against Houston. They're the walking wounded. They are missing a million guys JK Dobbins out for the year of the torn Achilles. They are banged up on the offensive line a linder bomb and Ronnie Stanley that game in Cincinnati. So the Bengals trying to get to even at one and one we'll talk about that game a little bit more later. All right after week one. I always try to take stock of this because it's interesting and it's fine to go back and look and see if it like actually stuck or if it didn't stick at all and it was just week one weirdness. Who is your biggest surprise in week one and who is the team you were most disappointed in week one? Yeah for a surprise. I'm going to brag a little bit because I shouldn't be surprised. I picked the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and our picks for the week at MMQV. I was the only one so I wanted to kind of pat myself on the back there, but it's still a little surprise the Buccaneers you know doing what they did against the Vikings and you know, I don't know how much I believe in the Buccaneers moving forward. I just know Baker Mayfield is a roller coaster so that when you're so uneven that doesn't really lead to good results overall, but I know Baker could play and shine for a game or two and I thought maybe this one you'll get him and that's what occurred and for the biggest disappointment for me. It was definitely the Chargers like like enough is enough what the brand is daily defense and you know, I got to you know, cover Staley for a year plus and you know, you know, he knows what he's talking about. He when it comes to defense, you know, he I feel like he's kind of one of those defensive geniuses, but it's not working. It's not clicking. These guys are not, you know, picking up the defense like the first year was the excuse was hey, it's complicated. Give us another give us another season year two. Oh, it's the injuries year three. Everybody's healthy kilomac throwing James Joy bozo and you get lit up by Tua Tagovailoa who I'm starting to think like he might be a legit top 10 quarterback, but it could be just one really good game against a really bad defense. So I have high expectations on the Chargers. I'm kind of beating myself for picking them to go to the divisional round of the AFC, but that defense is a problem. Yeah, so the Chargers we obviously disagreed a little bit on them going through the year and you may end up while being right, but look my biggest reason for not picking them to make the playoffs is Brenda Staley. I just every time every time I watch that team. I watch him coach them and I say I have no faith in Staley's ability to get them off the field. And you watch that game and it's I mean, it's over 500 yards of offense from Miami. There's 536 30 first downs. The Dolphins are missing their left tackle. They don't have a great offensive line. The Chargers registered two quarterback hits. Neither one of us coming from Bosa or Mack, by the way. I mean, they gave up 36 points and the Dolphins had two red zone turnovers and missed an extra point. It was crazy, but the move off of them who you know, we actually will talk a little bit about them here in a second when we break down the week two games, but my biggest disappointment was the Steelers who just look I can understand losing the game like that's fine. San Francisco's a really good team. I picked the Steelers like a dope. I like to toss that out there. Saying the Steelers were just pummeled. It was 200 yards to one at one point in that game. That's impossible 200 yards to one the college team could have done better than that and and they were you know, they look they score right for the half and kind of made like oh, it's 20 to 7 then they gave it up right away. And that was the end of it. Caffrey 65 yard touchdown run on the first drive out of halftime. I think the Steelers will bounce back. I do but I will also say at the same point. It gave me a lot of pause on picket picket was awful in that game awful. I mean, there's just no other way to say it, you know, if you're trying to spin it positively you could say hey look you can't be worse than he was in that game fine. He was he was flat-out bad. He threw two picks. He could have thrown more what Fred Warner had won right in his hands. He dropped you just can't go out there. I mean 31 of 46 for 232 and two picks you're having five yards in attempt that that's that that's backup quarterback stuff. You got to be better than that. And I'll tell you they're gonna face a Brown's team on Monday night and we will touch on this year in a sec as well. Like that Brown's team got after burrow in a major way. I mean burrow is under duress all game and then I'll flip it on the other side. My big surprise was the Rams the Rams went out and they look pretty damn good. I got to hand it to him now. I have doubts about them in terms of that that roster and can they continue to to win a lot of games which Stafford looked excellent. I think you got to give him all the credit in the world. He went out 2438 334 yards and not just the stats, but if you're watching he made some big-time big-time throws super impressive. They scored 30 points in the game. I was incredibly impressive defensive. I only given up a hundred and twelve passing yards on 26 attempts by Gino Smith held down. I mean Tyler Lockett did nothing Jackson Smith the jig but did nothing they combined for five catches and 23 yards even Metcalfe three catches and a touchdown on 47 yards and the Rams I mean all of us to to at Wells are there's a six catches a hundred and nineteen yards. It was it was impressive. It really was like they they surprised me in the way that they played. Yeah, another disappointment for me would have been the Seahawks but I saw you're going to talk about the Rams so I'll take opportunity to just say yeah, I don't have with the Seahawks man. Like I really had high expectations for those guys, you know with Gino Smith and who knows maybe Jackson Smith and jig, but it's not healthy for with that risk injury. Maybe they just didn't be that they maybe just didn't expect the Rams to be that good especially defensively and Matt, you know, I went to the Rams training camp a couple times and you know after watching them a few times like I felt better about the defense. I felt like okay. I think they might have hit him some a few draft picks here. I think they're developing their their guys from the 2022 draft and a lot of these second-year guys were out there like Kobe Duran Russ yeast and I know these aren't household names, but they're making plays there on Kendrick the other DK not playing as DK Metcalfe, you know, they're on Kendrick is aggressive. He gets in trouble, but he's a competitor and he's feisty and that's what the round squad did over all those. Hey, you guys are probably better talent wise but we're not going to let up and I always give the Rams a chance, you know, I kind of was, you know wondering what they tank here. There's so many young guys, but they do have a good coach and Shawn McVay and I was critical the Rams a year ago not Shawn McVay coaching because I knew when you don't have an offensive line and everybody's injured. You can't really do much when you when it comes to scheming plays and being an offensive play caller. They protect the Matthew Stafford. That was the biggest thing and and one of the things that one of the obvious things that if you saw around training camp hooking the cool man that guy was a star and sometimes you feel like you don't want to get fooled about a training camp practice and guys running shorts and making plays but quickly you saw Matthew Stafford trust Pukanukua and I'm started thinking this guy might be the next Robert Woods and I might be maybe the next Cooper Cup and I said that's really high praise but the way he trust that they gain trust from Stafford 15 targets Matt from Pukanukua fifth round. Yeah draft pick at a BYU when you get 15 targets, you did something right to earn the respect of a Super Bowl winning quarterback at Matthew Stafford. So I think the Rams might be playmakers when it comes to the wall card and hang around it could still be a long season but to see Aaron Donnell and the young defense, you know, put it on Gino and then Stafford light it up with two two at well, who that was my probably big surprise. This guy couldn't do much the last couple years. It's maybe a 40-yard bomb every four games now is actually getting targets and racking up yards. So the Rams could be something there and then the Steelers man. I'll keep it here with quick with the Steelers man. I wanted to make some kind of excuse for the Steelers because you're playing the 49ers defense. That's very ferocious. But when you get under 250 yards total seven points or was it three or seven points at home being coached by Mike Tomlin you did not put up a fight and I always love when Mike Tomlin keeps it real and he was honest after the game like that. Yeah, they got their butts whooped and that shows that can you pick his preseason might have been maybe I guess this evening. Yeah. Yeah. I look I think it's totally fair and you mentioned it and I actually wrote about it. I really should have mentioned it but puka Nakua for the Rams rookie fifth round pick 10 catches a hundred and nineteen yards at a BYU. Yeah, I don't play that'll work if he can do that all of a sudden now the Rams maybe you'll get them go. Okay, if cup gets back and Van Jefferson. Okay. All right. Yeah, there's more there than I thought if Nakua can play like that. So kudos to him great first game. All right, let's get into. We too. We're here. All right. We're not you know, we got the we got the Vikings and the Eagles to lead off get a doubleheader on Monday night with the Panthers and Saints and then the Steelers and Browns. And so let's just kind of get into it. And of course, we're going to make our pictures long as I calm but you're getting a little bit of a preview of some of them. All right, so let's open it up here the Chiefs own one going to Jacksonville who want to know as we're doing this to Chiefs are talking in their pressers right now Chris Jones will play on Sunday Travis Kelce is going to practice on Wednesday, which you would think would bode well for his availability on Sunday. We'll see how that goes. It's probably going to be out in the knee response throughout the week, but the Chiefs are getting their star defensive tackle back Jacksonville struggled with Indianapolis due to some uncharacteristic turnovers, but finished the job eventually winning by 10. However, despite the game being the Jags home opener the Chiefs are actually favored by three and a half points in this game. Where do you see this one going? How do you like it? Yeah, I'm very intrigued about this game. It might be one of the best games of the week and you know, I know the Jaguars were a little sloppy offensively and the probably should have blown out the coats a week ago and I kept a close eye on that game because of Anthony Richardson, but yep, some of the throws Trevor Lawrence was making a carbon really man big-time throws beautiful balls and I think this guy's on the cusp of being a top five quarterback in this league or who knows maybe he is but we could do rankings like actually you have the rankings every single week magic that I'm sorry. Okay. There you go. Okay, perfect. Okay, actually absolutely great football. Okay, so top five is fair enough. And yeah, Trevor Lawrence is a you know, definitely rising star in this league. But you know, I feel confident and Andy Reid making the adjustments and like he probably saw okay, maybe don't rely too much on could there is Tony this figure out how to you know, make things work here and maybe spread the ball out to guys. We were a lot. We were probably have more faith in and they said other right things after the game right Matt like hey, we believe in could there is Tony's going to figure it out. But maybe throw it a little less his way and because other guys are making plays the Ricky Rice was making plays even guys like Watson was making plays and even the backup is it Blake's Neil was making a plays a tight end there. So yeah, you get Kelsey back Chris Jones. I feel confident that the Chiefs will avoid an own to start make the adjustment. They are on the road. It's a little tough there and the Jaguars are really good to as well. But I think what happened a week ago, maybe probably was lingering lingering in their minds for 10 days. Okay, we got to do better and get this win. Yeah. I tend to agree with you. Look, I think Jacksonville is really good. This isn't an anti Jacksonville pick. It's more of a the Chiefs lost and they're going to be pissed pick and I like if you were the Jags the best thing that could have happened was the Chiefs somehow eat out that game and then it's yeah, everybody's want to know it's fine. You also know what the Chiefs they will they travel well, so there's going to be some Chiefs fans at that game, you know in recent years and they've played down there they've packed that Stadium with some red. Well, here's the here's the thing that I look at so last year obviously the Jags did not have Calvin Ridley fair enough, but the Chiefs played Jacksonville twice last season. Okay, they played him on November 13th last year in the regular season and they played them in the playoffs, of course in the divisional round and those two games Trevor Lawrence did not do a whole heck of a lot. He threw for 259 the first game on 40 attempts did have two touchdowns. No picks wasn't bad was just kind of an average game for him playoffs. He went 24 39 to 17 only 5.6 yards an attempt to touchdown and a pick. So the Jags in those games scored 17 and 20 points in the playoff game. It was 17 like five seconds left to kick the field goal to try to set up an onside kick Jacksonville struggled twice against Kansas City's defense. That's the concern I have because frankly I think Jacksonville is going to have to score a lot of points in this game. I do not think Jacksonville's defense is holding Kansas City down the Colts are not a good offensive team. They have a bad offensive line. They don't have weapons and they certainly know Patrick Mahomes. Although Anthony Richardson now that debut nice job the Chiefs, you know, have a very good offensive line. They you know, they have Mahomes if Kelsey's back now they have this compliment where you've got a great player surrounded by a bunch of complimentary pieces who now don't have to be a number one like they were with Detroit. I think for Jacksonville to win. They're going to have to get in the 30s in this game. I think that's coming. So I'm with you. I think it's a good game. I just think it means a little bit more in out for Kansas City to go out and find the way if you're Jacksonville. You're already a game up and everybody in the division. Look, it's personal for you. If you're if you're Jacksonville you want to avenge that playoff loss, but for the Chiefs, I think there's going to be some urgency in this game that maybe there wasn't in week one. I think they find the way to win. All right, let's get into the second game which we touched on a little bit earlier Ravens at bangles bangles. Oh and one Ravens coming off that win over Houston, but a costly win so Marcus Williams Peck injury out for most of if not all the year hardball was a little unspecific there. We know that Linderbaum the center he's dealing with a lower body injury as is Ronnie Stanley Linderbaum the ankle Stanley with the knee I believe it is sprains. They are week to week not likely to play that in this game. We'll see if Mark Andrews plays and makes his season debut. He missed the first game of the quad and then of course JK Dobbins ruptured his Achilles. He is gone for the year. So the Ravens win, but they lose in a lot of ways as well. Who do you like in this AFC matchup at pay core? Yeah, and I'll just start out real quick by saying the Ravens but after you listed all the injuries and all the concerns I am not feeling good about it, but I'll put it this way and I also don't like that. They're gonna be on the road against the Bengals team and so on one but you know with the whole Joe burrow thing I think it might take another game to be clicking and firing on on all cylinders with the Ravens. It felt like they were ready to unleash a pretty good passing attack and I was a Houston Texans and you should probably do that that week against that bad defense and you know, they have to make arrives made a little better. Who knows but you saw the glimpse there was a flowers or the rookie wide receiver OBJ was doing some things and Rashad Bateman and they get Mark Andrews. I will feel a lot better about that. But I am concerned about the running back because they don't have JK diamonds and the other thing about it. I'm maybe I'm talking myself out of is like if you're going to do this really high-octane passing attack at what point do you start saying? I don't I don't like this. I feel uncomfortable. Let's go back to our Russian attack. We're probably the most productive Russian team of the last 10 years. You started doing it that way that might be kind of a cross crossroads there, but I like what I saw with Tom like in the first game as a OC. I like to say flowers to maybe even be a rookie that you're kind of we'll see but he did pretty well. So you're pushing the ball down the field and your offense is clicking while the bangles are still rusty. I think they might catch him slipping in this game and I know they're on the road but you did scare me with all the injuries there, but I think they have something going and they might get it for you for sorry season week to okay fair enough. I like Cincinnati to bounce back just like I show Kansas City. I think this is a game with a bangles and look it's even more important for the bangles because it's another divisional game like for the bangles. This is you don't want to start on to in the division. I know they started on to last year overall in one of them was a divisional loss to Pittsburgh, but you don't want to be in that hole. So yeah, I think I think that they bounce back the Ravens are beat up Lamar did not play well in week one. He was erratic at times. He had he was sacked four times now. He's got a line that's missing in my opinion to best players on it and you're missing the top running back now Gus Edwards. He can run. And so I think you're okay there and J flowers by the way look great and his debut nine catches. I believe was 78 yards. So he played very well. I think the big question here is can Baltimore block up front, you know, the bangles they get they have a good rush Trey Hendrickson is a very good player Sam Hubbard. They draft miles Murphy in the first round today. They get after you a little bit. I like the bangles to bounce back. It's an AFC North game. It'll be tight. It'll be physical. We saw last year in the playoffs Tyler Huntley almost won the game, right? So I'm not sleeping on Baltimore. But I do think I think the Ravens if they lose this game not the end of the world to road game for the bangles got to find a way to win it. It's back to everything season on the today show it always feels so good to get back to it back to all your people and the things you love to do. 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They lost 36 34 at home to Miami in that shootout Titans lost the game to the Saints where they couldn't stop kicking field goals and Tannehill couldn't stop throwing picks and the result was a very ugly clunky 16 15 loss in which the Titans got 63 rushing yards from Derrick Henry and 198 passing yards from Tannehill on 34 attempts and oh by the way, he also threw three picks the games in Nashville Chargers coming cross-country early window Chargers favored by two and a half. Do you like the bolts to get to one-on-one or do you like the Titans in their building? I like the Chargers but you know only because I don't trust Ryan Tannehill to you know, get you know, it's more than 17 points and you know, I guess D Hobbs did some things in his first game with the Titans and I don't know about trail home Burks, but he will do this in a year to Derek Henry didn't have his dairy canary game. But you know, they were playing a pretty good Saints defense. I probably should get the Saints even a lot more credit because then you're playing the Chargers defense. You're gonna probably have a better day against that that poor defense of Brandon Staley. So but I think maybe the one thing I really noticed in the Dolphins game at was, you know, for some reason I think maybe Kellen Moore was getting orders from Brandon Staley run the ball more because my defense is gas out there. We can't keep up because you got Justin Herbert it to us pushing the ball down the field getting more like I think he got like 43 passing attempts and Herbert got like 30 30 something. So maybe they finally say you know what we got you here for a reason come or to be aggressive push the ball down the field and you get 20 points. You'll be okay. So I'm not confident in charge at all, but I think they make that adjustment to be aggressive very good Titans defense, by the way, they're good front, but I think I get some maybe 20 24 points and that could be that could be enough if they get 33 like they did last for 34. They're going to blow out the Titans. Yeah, I agree with that portion of it. I'm taking Tennessee and this is the game that I am maybe setting myself up for to me. It's just like my lock of the week of these games that are back and forth like not I mean, I'm not saying it's more likely than like a game that's like Dallas and the Jets. Okay, but I my reasoning again, not to be an unbelievably dead horse at this point is Staley. I don't trust him against Rabel in this game. This games in Tennessee and you know with Tennessee, they're going to run the ball. They're going to get after Herbert with their front for you mentioned that they hit car 10 times in New Orleans and they sacked them four times Autry is a very underrated player up front. They still have Harold Landry who missed all of last year with it with a blown-out knee. They have Arden Key who had a sack and a half in New Orleans Jeffrey Simmons who is an elite defensive tackle next to Danica Autry. I just look at the Chargers and say they don't know who they are because they never knew who they are. Whereas the Titans know exactly who they are and it's going to be here. It comes Derek Henry and some safe passes and they're going to play defense. I think this games like 22 to 20. I think it's ugly. It's mucked up but I like the Titans I and I don't and I don't love them as a team. I think they're very limited offensively as a team, but I I trust the coach in this game and I really don't trust the coach in the other game. So or near sideline, so I I will go with the Titans. We're on opposite sides there for the second time in three games. All right, the Dolphins at the Patriots. This is a Sunday night game. The Dolphins are laying two and a half. They are favored at Foxborough. How the times have changed the Dolphins. We of course just talked about it. So it scored 36 points to almost over 500 yards Tyree kill at the NFL and receiving last week 215 yards to touchdowns New England horrible start against Philadelphia pick six with Darius Slade, but then they rally they came back. They made it a game. They fell shy losing in the dying minutes to the Eagles at home. Do you like them to even their record here now that they have a second straight home game at Gillette? I want to pick the Patriots because I really hate picking all the road team is going to be it's going to be four in a row. So I am going to go with the Dolphins and and this is I won't I won't get in trouble next week. If I if these read these picks are terrible all the road road teams are losing because that means I got caught with overreaction week one and because I really like the Dolphins offense and other Patriots even is really good. You know, they did struggle a bit. But when you have Mike McDaniel like talking about the coaching match with Bravo and Staley like I could definitely say Bill Belichick figuring out Mike McDaniel's offense and kind of you know, turn turn back the clock and do what he used to do all the time with his great coaches. So I would not be surprised but I was in person in LA watching to a you know, light up with Tyree kill and it wasn't just backyard football, you know, Mike McDaniel and I wrote about it in my coaching spotlight for today. Like, you know, this guy's a great, you know, as the offensive play caller. He designs great place to get guys open. Everybody knows how he feels gonna get the ball. But how do you get him the ball and to design plays like that was pretty fun to see and then who knows when it could be another Jalen water game where he pops off. He didn't really do much and it was just a charger. So and the running game. Maybe you want to run the ball a little more but when you have to throw in for final yards, I think that's okay too. So again, it's kind of similar to what the Tennessee Titans and Chargers if the Dolphins get 20 something points. I feel confident to over Mac Jones. Yeah, I'm with you. I'm taking the Dolphins.
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"sam hubbard" Discussed on Progressive Talk 1350 AM
"Erin rogers when this mvp season kirk cousins probably had a higher completion percentage damn but but nobody would want kirk cousins over erin rogers in that moment that's true i don't know what either one 2br was yeah that's or the pff that's grades true but what they do is they get it accurate though so people can i disagree i don't i disagree i don't it's think accurate well here's the thing if you go and look at where they have like an offensive line rank like they have like they had the like they had the bill's offensive line ranked in the top three and then they went got pushed around by sam hubbard and trey hendrickson in the playoffs and and then everybody well pff didn't account for the snow well maybe this pff was damn wrong maybe they were just wrong and this team in buffalo that had not been able to run the ball all year whether by design or by choice now all of a sudden can't block no kidding yeah i don't like i don't like it it's all these freaking nerds who never played football and i also never played football ball but it has its place it has its importance however it is it's a data point in the big c of data points and it's not the end all be all it's not the alpha and omega but but you will see there somebody will be like oh trevor petting was ranked third in tackles by pff why giving is he up a sack i don't know maybe they were wrong anyway you were saying you done i'm like i'm just letting you have your moment with with pff yeah there you go just letting you guys have your moment with pro football focus there for a second it's all the same people who are sitting there talking about oh who would ever pay jonathan taylor or dalvin cook and then there's the same freaking people that retweet bijan robinson running for seven yards in the preseason like oh my look god look how smooth he is no shut up it feels like a good baseline but there are you're absolutely right there are numbers where it's just like i don't know how this guy got a 90 today like i don't see your i don't see what you're going for i've heard them try to explain these things and it feels mealy mouthed okay so as so as so as i would say pro football focus has their offensive line right between 25 and 27 i think dalvin cook is going to find out how tough that offensive line is and aaron rogers already kind of expressed about the offensive line and the joint practice and then of course after the week goes by they kind of blow it over so i think the jets finished third and i don't think the patrons have a quarterback and i don't like the team to zeke signing another older veteran i whiffed on devontae parker i like it sicky i wish he just stayed in miami but you're going to a worse offense a quarterback worse you know just the system is not going to be the same they're not going to just find you and throw the ball to you all the time like he wanted in miami and even getting the attempts of the targets he did in miami so i like the dolphins the winners division right here i like the bills to come up right behind him a second and then the jets i feel like eight or nine wins are where the jets are going to end up in this division for the jets it really depends on the tackle play you got makai beckton him and aaron rogers apparently going lunch to at some point uh this week you know as they saw on hard knocks but really the big issue is whether makai beckton's eating lunch or not his knees are going to be an issue then on top of that on the other side of that you got brown 37 he's you know so you can't imagine you know who knows wouldn't shock me if we see mason peters who he's come out and say he wants to play again this season wouldn't shock me if we see him around there that's a lot of older fellas around around the quarterback position barrett tucker is i think he's i think he's a good good player i think he's i think he'll be all right he had a pec injury i think he'll be just fine tackles concerned me but again when you have a quarterback like erin roger somebody's going to be making quick decisions ostensibly right you would imagine make quick decisions imagine get something similar to what you saw throughout the entire time you in green bay might be able to gate some of the tackle issues there but i think bigger thing is i i'm concerned about the buffalo bills and i don't i think everybody's kind of slating buffalo in as a team is going to win this division or be a wildcard out of this division the bigger thing for me is we've seen how many different how long is this window supposed to be right that like how long are they are we saying well that's the point eventually these things fall apart buffalo hasn't necessarily they drafted okay but it's not like they're hitting on crazy picks left right and center where you're seeing like a team like the chiefs where they are hitting on seemingly on every draft pick that they make in this time period that right there will push that window down even more even more I'm so I'm a little worried about Buffalo here Josh Allen I mean he's you know the injuries coming he's incredible right but it's come we never speak about how the the durability of Josh Allen is a major key for Buffalo and it look and the other thing is all right well they're saying they're gonna run unless well he won't run less though they may not run they may not run him as much but he will stay tight off and go but just the thing is okay that's part of what made him so great part of what makes us Alan so great is he can run people right and he's not everybody talks about Lamar Jackson getting hurt running the ball Lamar avoids contact Josh Allen runs to contact so that's something I'll you know and that team was flying high before before he got hurt in Detroit on that game that got moved to the snow and then I mean we were joking about this earlier before you
SI Media Podcast
"sam hubbard" Discussed on SI Media Podcast
"What's the point of the rule analysts should only come on to explain a role to say, here's this is the rule. They don't need to come on. To tell me what I just saw and then lie to protect the ref. I saw them as a full start. You don't need to come on and tell me it was or wasn't. And then you come out and you say it wasn't when it was. What's the point of the rules analyst? Yeah, it's showing his true ref colors. They're all making these arrests or whatever. Now more part of the cast where it should be less, you're right, they used to use them the way Fox used Pereira initially was the best way to use it. Now they're all over too much. Every time there's any semblance of a little bit of a question we got to go right to gene territory and Terry McAuliffe and see what these guys have to say. I really thought that awful roughing the passer on the last Vikings drive was going to come back to be a factor, but it turns out that it wasn't. And by the way, people were saying, that's the worst one ever. It was not even close to the worst one. I agree with that. I agree. It was bad, but it was bad, but I mean, I've seen, I've seen at least 5 horse this year. Boy wars this year. Yeah. And then so this week, NBC only has one game, so you're going to get Tariq on collinsworth. By the way, the toriko is great. I wasn't sure how I'd feel about losing out, but toriko is, I think he's fantastic. His call of Sam Hubbard's 98 yard fumble return touchdown was tremendous. Added so much to it as Hubbard was running for dear life. It was a great call by tarika. Yeah, so Fox is sending, which is I think it's gonna be interesting. They're sending burckhardt and Olsen, which I knew they would do to cowboys niners, because it's the cowboys. Are they going to get the acorn? And it looks like, excuse me. Joe Davis and Johnston are going to giants eagles. I'm going to be curious to see this. I'm going to be curious to see the fan reaction. Oh, I'm down on that already. Right. So it's two Fox games, one CBS, and one NBC. Yeah.
The Bill Simmons Podcast
"sam hubbard" Discussed on The Bill Simmons Podcast
"Deserves to be second in coach of the year voting behind mcdaniel? Nick sirianni. Brabham's got the lifetime achievement. He should always be top three. He won it last year, and I was like, oh, that's right, he did win it last year, 'cause he feels like he should always, he and Belichick should just get awards for just like, hey, you guys always do a great job. Congratulations moving on. The 7 and four with all the injuries they had, the fact that they almost won that Malik cooker game, like just an incredible year bam. What's your next matchup? Patrick Mahomes versus Lou and aroma. This was the defining matchup of the AFC championship game last year, Lou and aroma for those who don't know big Lou is the defensive coordinator for the Cincinnati Bengals. Love this guy. And he's gotten head coach buzz. I'm very glad he has. I'm not sure he'll take it 'cause he strikes me as the kind of guy who kind of just wants to coach defense and go home and see his kids for the rest of his life, but we'll see. Who knows? The thing about an aroma that's most impressive is that a lot of good defensive coordinators coach their stuff, they coach it well. They do what they do, and then they get the right personnel for it, they get the right body types, they know some of the changeups they need to pitch and then they dictate. They dominate. Ryan's with the dolphins or with the diners, excuse me. We play chorus, we rush with four we dominate. Here we go. And we're almost more in the Belichick vein where he'll run something out in week 7 that he wasn't doing in week one. He'll change a look here in cheadle there. Like against the Titans, they're running bare fronts with Sam Hubbard on the inside, they got two defensive tackles on the other moving guys around. Like, they do a crazy number of things. Most notably against pash mahomes in the chiefs in that AFC championship game. The Bengals, the Bengals dropped 8. They dropped 8 defenders on 35% of their passing play. So 8 in coverage, three guys rushing. Huge number. Astronomical number. The only other guy in the league who was comfortable dropping a at these high rates in a single game was Bill Belichick. He had done it a couple times. And against mahomes in the past couple of years. Mahomes really, really struggled against drop a in that game. He had negative 14.4 pass EPA, 7 for 13. Wait, hold on one second with that. When the drop a is so part of that is you're basically daring the other team to run or you're just trying to you're trying to confuse them with the coverage because you never know which 8, but if it's 8 going back, you know it's 8 anyways. So what do you think the chiefs learned from that? It's a great question. So one, are you challenging the opposing team to run a little bit? Because typically you'll be in like too high shells and light boxes regardless. That extra player you drop is gonna have a run pass key though. So he's gonna be online a scrimmage. And when he gets an office alignment coming right at him, looking like he's run blocking, he'll play run defense. It's not like he's dropping right at the snap, right? Yeah. So he's still going to be involved in the run fit. So it's not like they're playing with three down defensive lineman. That's not the case. So it's a little bit of a run challenge, not so much. Secondly, what are you doing in coverage? That's the really cool thing about Lou Anna rumo, right? A lot of the drop 8 stuff that you might run is like, okay, run, you know, three deep safeties and 5 underneath, right? You see that in college? Well, in Aruba would run like man coverage with three like 5 guys on 5 guys and then three bonus dudes if one deep middle safety, another guy on mahomes and other guy robbing just kind of floating around, he'd run drop one of the ends and have him kind of spy my homes from one side and they'd force mahomes out of the pocket a certain direction. He was really creative with the 8 players he had. We don't see a lot of drop 8 in the NFL. So the rules are very nebulous. He would run Tampa two and he would change the tamper droppers. They just, with that extra body, they're creating like you say a lot of confusion. And so mahomes was challenged in that game, either get rid of the ball right now, like, okay, get rid of the ball, go, give it to your read, let the players make the place where you throw underneath. Or try to do your usual scramble drill stuff, try to do your usual chaos stuff. And that doesn't work when there's an extra body back there, right? Oh, Travis Kelce, go sit down in space. We've got three dudes around Travis Kelce. There ain't a lot of space. You know, you really put mahomes in an awkward spot for how he likes to play. That was last year. Last year mahomes, epaper drop back against drop 8, negative .1, this season, .42. One of the league's best passers against drop 8, storm the ball much shallower and getting a lot more yeah. This is the change the chiefs offense May when they got rid of Tyree kill brought in juju Smith used to do. You think it was partly because that Bengals game? Yes. It's part of that. Another part of it is mahomes choosing to change how he plays, right? And this is the thing about mahomes that has always been most impressive. Like the arm, the nola passes, the sidearm nonsense, whatever you want. The thing about mahomes that is shocking is that more than most quarterbacks, any other quarterback in the league, he changes his playstyle. He will change the way he plays the game. He's mature enough to say, yes, I'm this talented, but sometimes I just have to dump the ball off to Isaiah Pacheco. And so I'm just going to and he has the humility and the self control to do that. And so Ana rumu, one of your best changing, molding, throw different pitches at your defensive coordinators against mahomes, who has changed his playstyle since the last time that Lou saw him. Huge, huge, huge AFC playoff defining matchup once again because Lou's gonna have new stuff from mahomes. And mahomes is gonna have a different playstyle than Lucy before. So it's new challenges, very interesting to see what the Bengals defense brings out. I think mahomes still has the advantage, especially no chito Auguste, the stark corner for the Bengals. He's into this year. But Lou is a great signal of what other teams might start to do against your offense because he's very good at building these game plans. You know, I was fascinated by Lou, because just what the Bengals do in the second half. There's really nothing like it right now. And I was looking at his Wikipedia a
Strong Opinion Sports
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"They're not changing. Things are not going to change. And Cincinnati, the owner is still Mike Brown. Mike Brown is still the owner of the Cincinnati Bengals and as long as he is, things are not going to change. Carson Palmer never won a playoff game until he left Cincinnati. But Joe burrow, in my opinion Joe bro needs to reject the Bengals and do it hard. He needs to be harsh. She needs to say, I don't want to play for the Cincinnati Bengals. They have bad ownership. I will not play for Mike Brown. You can draft me. I won't play. Joe burrows worked too hard. He's too talented to waste years of his career in Cincinnati. He might have a little bit of success in Cincinnati. Maybe at some point Joe burrow wins a playoff game with the Bengals. And that'd be awesome. Pull an Eli Manning, refuse to go there. That's what I think is best for Joe burrow and his family. Go to a better organization, have a better life. When football games and achieve good things, great things, don't go to Cincinnati and under cheap. Oh my gosh, it's hilarious to listen to it. It really is. I said, don't go to Cincinnati and underachieve. All Joe burrow has done since he got to Cincinnati is overachieve. I said, maybe someday he can win a playoff game, like one playoff game. He went three. He won three this year. And now he's going to a Super Bowl in year two. And really the big thing that happened with the Bengals organization and what really took place is that Mike Brown, the Bengals owner has gotten older and as that has happened, he's given more and more control to his daughter, Katie Blackburn. She's got a dope by stand, by the way. She married a guy named Troy Blackburn, but she is she is Mike Brown's daughter despite not the same last name. Katie Blackburn and duke Tobin are basically running the Bengals organization. And they've done a great job building around Joe burrow, something I was very concerned would not happen in Cincinnati. They brought in, for example, the defensive line. They brought in toy hendrickson, they brought in DJ reader, they traded for BJ hill, a really great, quiet trade with the Giants to get DJ hill. They gave Sam Hubbard a big contract. I was really, really critical of the Bengals for being cheap during the Carson Palmer era. I'm like, look, it didn't work with Andy Dalton. It didn't work with Carson Palmer. They didn't even spend money when Carson Palmer really needed it to win more playoff games and go farther. However, they've actually done a really good job building their.
Strong Opinion Sports
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Strong Opinion Sports
"I know, if you look at the sheet, you're like, wow, they didn't do very much to get pressure on Trevor Lawrence. The Jacksonville Jaguars quarterback. They had a ton of pressure on Big Ben Big Ben's an idiot who holds on the ball way too long and this would not let him play die would not check the ball down. Big Ben is infuriating. And the Bengals are made his life made his life very difficult and week three, but if you look at the box score, you're like, well, the Bengals defensive line, they didn't have a single sack. The only sack was what's his name Wilson, the linebacker. So here's the thing. Trevor Lawrence was running around with keeping plays alive, and he had to leave the pocket constantly because of the pressure that the Bengals defensive line got. And this Bengals defensive line is making a big impact. There was a play, they stopped Jacksonville on fourth and goal from the one yard line, and that stop was the difference in the game. Cincinnati won by three points. If they give up a touchdown there on fourth and goal, ball game over. Shout out to this Bengals defense. They're great. I'm very impressed with them. And the events of line. I knew they were good, but I knew that Sam Hubbard was good. I knew that trae hendrickson was good. BJ hill can sample these guys are emerging and you're like, dude. They're so deep. It's crazy. Now Bengals linebacker Logan Wilson this guy is having an unbelievable stretch of games. In the last three games, Logan Wilson has 33 tackles, three interceptions in a sec, a sack on Trevor Lawrence last night. Do you understand that Logan Wilson last year as a rookie? In 12 games, had 33 tackles, he's had that many tackles in three games this year..
Newsradio 700 WLW
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"At what he does in his his Ability to kind of feel like he is in total control of everything that happened from all the way back weeks ago when the game playing got put in. I know that last preseason game he got the guy's a getaway, and it said Come back. Have you blanks ready to go? It was It was a defining moment to say. This is now my team. Speaking of this team on the defensive land, they go out and get Hendrickson. Uh, guys that have 13 a half sex I believe last year, saying we've got to get pressure on the quarterback. There's got to be a different look to the defensive line this year. You know, you got this first month of the season here where there are teams who have weaknesses on the offensive line where you're looking at their team, and that's where you can exploit them. You have paid a whole lot of people up front to make this better. That was the problem Last year, they didn't get enough pressure. Most Pacific Lee of the middle you have t J reader back. You paid. Larry Ogunjobi. You have traded for B J Hill sacrificing some of your depth on the offensive line. Josh Trupo has come back and supposed to give you more. You know, some of these other guys who paid Sam Hubbard paid Trey Hendrickson. Those guys got to earn it for you this next month. You've got to take advantage of these teams that have issues up front and whether that means stopping to run when you throw in some of those guys who set you up. But you've got to get after him. Particularly, you have to get much more pressure from those middle guys in order to let the outside edges eat. And to me, That's the difference. We talk about the first month. We got to talk about this defensive line needs to wreck people the way Mike.
Cincy Jungle
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Cincy Jungle
"Check that out leaving rating to if you could appreciate that and hello. I'm seeing a lot way. More hallows from some people joining us continuing to join us. Live good to see everybody christner and many many others get to see a lot of familiar names. A lot of new names Hello everybody thanks for joining. Thanks for listening and Be department let's roll on hough. Let's roll on just money. Says you need to get mike daniels back on. Yeah we'll try. His representation has been awesome to us by the way. So we will We will try and do what we can on that front continuing on the bengals. Vikings week one News year bengals announced their team captains. This was yesterday as well. Yes it was and they announced the seven players. Job bro tyler boy. Joe mixing a new one. Jessie bates von bell. Sam hubbard kevin huber. Now the to that kind of stand out to me in that. I will make the most comments on would be joe mixing and jessie bates mixing stands out to me. Because think back a handful. And i wanna go back in rehash you know ugly instances in the past from anybody but you know when you think back to joe mixing in the as a prospect coming out of the draft. There was kind of this other story that followed him. And i think we all know the deal. We don't need to go into the details there. you know there were just some off. Field concerns with joe mixing. He has been nothing but essentially a model citizen since entering the nfl and being with the cincinnati bengals has asserted himself as a team leader. So when i saw his name at the captain level unfortunately you know. I did think of an ugly situation years back but it also made me really proud as someone who covers the bangles a fan of the team a really proud of a guy like joe mixing who has really kind of turn things around from that ugly incident and really matured and is now a team captain of the team so kudos to him on being one of the seven captains of the team and then you look at jessie bates. That's an interesting situation because the bengals in he apparently are in a contract stalemates as contracts. Donate at this point in time they have a few days are not They haven't agree to a long term deal. Jessie bates now team captain. He's also been a big part of their marketing endeavors. That they've been really pushing out with new jersey's in everything and so he is a A captain there and you see the ones last year borough. Bell huber were captains along with Sean williams aj green. Geo bernard josh buying so Interesting stuff there but That's those are the seven captains right there. Borough boyd mixing bates bell hubbard and huber. So congratulations to those seven and got is at our In a lot of a lot of different ways. They are deserving of that designation. Unusually quarterback is the the team captain there so speaking of the team captains speaking of joe. Borough there is a a feature. That is going to be aired. I believe it's going to be on sportscenter on sunday so it it's an interview with him Talking with espn. But basically there's more talk of. Hey we have high goals as a team in terms of level of success that we want to attain and then of course the knee injury where he's at mentally where he's at physically with all of that and there were a couple of quotes that he sent out with Was with dan graziano in it was. Espn so this is probably going to be on. The full interview will be on Yes fiene and and i think their you know their website and all all kinds of different outlets but quote. None was the answer when graziano asked him if he had any concerns about his surgically repaired. left knee so quote. It shouldn't affect me at all. Meaning the knee brace. I don't really like wearing it because it's big and bulky but i don't think it'll affect my play. I think he also went on to say that. He doesn't think it's something. He will need for the entirety of his career. At least he doesn't hope so because of those reasons. So that's that's joe bureau on there and then of course you see here. The the goals for the season quote make the playoffs win the division. We really need to get better closing out games. Which is definitely something that has plagued the bengals for a while there quote we had leeds in the fourth quarter of something like seven or eight games last year and we ended up losing all of them. We just need to be better down the stretch. So they host the minnesota vikings and look while this seems like a winnable game for the bengals and they very well could win the game especially at being at home. The vikings are are pretty high quality team. That's probably going to be my. My assumption is that it's probably going to be something that is going to resemble a one score game or something that is relatively close so the bengals very well right away could have a contest in which they will need to be able to get over those hurdles of these one possession games week one last year. I mean. I don't wanna remind everybody would happen there last year but that was a one possession game You know the in subsequent weeks after that. The browns a week to the bengals played played. Catch up there but You know that was a one possession game yet. The tie with the eagles. I mean there are a lot of these situations where the bengals were in. These games had late leads all that kind of stuff and they couldn't close it out so that is a big focus which inevitably will lead to the first two points. Joe borough brought up in terms of being competitive winning the division making the playoffs all of that so that is a lie. Some interesting quotes there from joe borough. Now you've got some more quotes from his buddy on offense demar chase. I guess i should've talked about this after the depth chart. But that's okay we're going to get it anyway. Jomar chase speaks on his pre season drops. I i feel for this kid. Because there's nothing quite like trying to get over a mental hurdle and doing the work that you need to do in order to get.
Mo Egger
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Mo Egger
"Counter programming. That's supposed to talk during reds. So we'll save some of that for the five o'clock hour. Hopefully bottom of the six. Three two three mike daniels has been moved back to the bengals. Practice squad. the bengals named captains today. Joe borough joe. Mix and tyler. Boyd sam hubbard. Jessie bates von bell. Kevin huber is your special teams captain. Fc cincinnati did you know alex. There's an mls soccer team in town. I do because. I generally run most of their games out of this studio. That sounds awful. It is now that they've left nipper stadium. I wouldn't mind seeing them do well. Boy they'd better figure it out because they not only are they they. They bad per se but they're not entertaining. There's nothing especially when we get to football right when you get to this climate and you've got options. Why why are you watching. Fc cincinnati right. Now if you have other options because you're a fan. I get it but like they're not playing a fun brand of soccer. they're not playing an exciting style. And if you're if you're you're boring and you're bad it's not a great mix start a great mix boring in bad you heard him mention it. Yesterday at the end of sunday morning sports talk. He feels bad for fc cincinnati fans. Because it's such a rabid loyal fan base and yet they aren't getting anything out of it. I don't know how rabid and loyal it is it. Sounds like a good crowd there every game when well. Yeah i mean you're a you're in a right around a thirty thousand seat stadium which is a lot of people. Don't get me wrong. It just it's not indicative of this like million person. Fan base is what i'm saying. I think they're very loyal to what the idea of. Fc cincinnati was when it was started but the product is bad product. Just bad and it's hard to continue to keep asking people for money when you're not giving them a good product to pay for. Let's take a break when we come back. Everybody wants to talk about jober. Oh i don't think he's the key to the season cincinnati. Espn fifteen thirty log. Amac cincinnati's espn fifteen thirty chad. Brendel sitting in for mo-.
Newsradio 700 WLW
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"J. Green and Gino Atkins be the latest to go and Bangles quote. Changing of the guard. I think it's pretty clear AJ has played his final game is a Bengal probably Close to being clear his day that Gino Atkins has played his final game as a bangle and think about it. Um Zach, Centering. Your three we talk about Coach is coming in and wanting their guys. And we talk about turnover in the changing of the guard. Dunlap is out a J Green will probably be out show of hands. Is everybody okay? With Gino Atkins being out? If if they move on from him, they're going to save about 9.5 million if they cutting this off season. What would you rather roll the dice again with Gino Atkins? At age what 31 is? You know 32 yet coming off the surgery? Is there more It becomes a matter of production. What would you rather have the money? Or the player that the money to you someplace else in another way, or the veteran presence and the experience and the hope you get enough production out of it. No. Dunlap know, AJ Gino's probably gone. Bobby Hart potentially gone. Sean Williams is going to be gone. John Ross is gonna be gone. I could make the case depending on what you did in the draft, although probably much lesser case. CJ use aama. Others cringe when the name Giovanni Bernard is mentioned is moving on from him. This team moved on from Andy Dalton. They moved on from Georgia Loca. They moved on from dark West Denard. There's a lot of turnover here in the changing to get their guys. Geno's got two years left on his deal. Would you rather have the money or two more years of Gino Atkins? I'd rather have the money. I'd rather have the money and look at the prospects of a healthy DJ reader and I think very under how do I want to say this undervalued or under realized Josh to Po, Um, sat out last season, he opted out. I'm not saying he's Gino Atkins. Although Might say, based on Gino's age in the coming season, coming off the surgery. If you were to put the productions of Gino versus Josh to Po together and looked at the price, I think I'd rather have Josh to poet his money. Potential production than Gino Atkins all take the money and hey, to use a Redd's term. I will reallocate the money someplace else on this roster. Because they are moving forward in a window of Joe Burrows contract and moving forward in the window of a rookie quarterback contract is a pivotal point for this franchise. This is no longer about as much as some may want it want it to be. It's no longer about rewarding players for past performances or clinging to the past. This is about Money to use To get They're guys. They're being this coaching staff and plug it in to win. Going forward with Joe Borough. What potentially can they do with Gino Atkins for the next two years? Versus what could they do with that 9.6 million to spend in another way? I will say that surprised this morning and reading another piece on ESPN, where they ask each of the beat writers around the NFL in offseason prediction for all 32 teams. A bold one. This was the bold one from Ben Baby on the Bangles. William Jackson. The third gets a massive contract. And curl. Lawson walks who Ben Wright. Cincinnati has yet to see how the defense looks with Jackson and Trae Waynes as the starting corners. We'll look in a perfect world. I'd love to have William Jackson the third and Trey Wayne's is my corners. But it's not a perfect world. It's a salary cap world. This team had 17 sacks last season. Um Consider what this depth chart looks like if Carl Lawson leaves in free agency. Sam Hubbard on and then You're on the hook to Trae Waynes. You overpaid to get him last year, and that's it about 14 year. Do you realize what the going rate is for corners? I mean, your top corner on Jalen Ramsey is getting 21 year. True, Davis White getting 17.5 million a year. Darius Slaves getting 16.7 million this coming season..
Newsradio 700 WLW
"sam hubbard" Discussed on Newsradio 700 WLW
"Zac's answer was and you can understand him taking this approach wanted. Unlike making predictions, he said. We certainly have to get a lot better in a lot of areas in Windsor number one. I'm really excited about this off season in the work we're going to put in to make sure our team improves and put all these pieces together. To have a great year. That's our expectation. We had those expectations this year and we had opportunities, so it's on us to make sure we make the most of those opportunities this year. What has to happen in 2021 to view the season as its success? Well, in no particular order? Well, I'll start with the most important job. Burroughs got to be healthy. And then Joe Burrows. Gotta be kept healthy. He's gonna be kept standing up, clean protected, protect the investment. They're gonna have to figure out a way to pressure the quarterback get pressure on the quarterback in some way, shape or form they're going to have to if I can backtrack one. If they're going to do that, with Joe, That's obviously going to be what everybody is viewing the most important factor in the offseason addressing the offensive line in the draft in free agency, perhaps both they're gonna have to take some swings and they can't be swings and misses and free agency. They have to be swings and they have to be extra base hits in free agency. I'm not so sure it doesn't have to. The first one doesn't have to be a home run in free agency, and they're gonna have to take some swings and deliver extra base hits in the draft again. His team won two games two years ago. Four games this year in answering the question what has to happen in 2021? For exact view? The season is a success. If all of those air done all of those must be done, and then success will be a winning season as the first step beyond that, If it's nine or 10 wins, the rest is out of your control in terms of Whether you're gonna make the playoffs or not, But there's a lot of interesting questions inside of all of that, and I hit on someone with J, including William Jackson, third or Carl Lawson. Everybody wants the Bangles to go big and go bold and free agency and they did a year ago for $150 million in free agency, and the results were mixed bag, but they've got to. They've got to figure out how they're going to approach. William Jackson, the third and Carl Lawson. It is a passing league. If it's a passing league to defend that you're gonna have to get pressure on the quarterback and be able to cover and the less pressure on the quarterback. The longer you have to cover. Good luck. If they can't figure out a way. Keep Carl Lawson, you are down to Sam Hubbard. Yikes on a team that already had trouble getting to the quarterback. If you can't keep William Jackson the third you've got Trae Waynes, who? A year ago, They invested three years $42 million in. Unfortunately, he never took a snap because he toward the pectoral pectoral muscle. But you've also got a Darius Phillips and a couple other lesser options. But if it's what are the other and I don't know, Maybe it's Maybe it's one gets signed an extension one gets tagged. I don't know how likely that is because the tag is such a big number with what they're gonna have to get done this offseason, But if you make it one of the other Want Carl Lawson over William Jackson, the third I'll take the guy who can be disruptive. Now. You could argue that Carl Lawson, the switch has to stay flipped and on more often, there will be burst and flashes. And there will be moments where you think he looks so good. You think they'll never be able to afford him in free agency. The guy's a monster. And then there's stretches. Where you say, Where did Carl Lawson go? And yet he's still young. What 25 years old Andre Asses? Muchas it is a cover league. William Jackson the third to me. In his first year you were like, Oh, yeah, Man, The graph the church for this guy. This guy's got a trend up and up it up and just get better. And there were moments in the past couple of years where William Jackson just if he wasn't hurt. He was just kind of He was just there. And you can't just be there you get you gotta make plays. I mean, he's a reputation in Houston was he got his hands on the ball. He batted out a lot of passes. He picked off a lot of passes. He was a playmaker, and he just he hasn't made Don't think he's made the place that you would have thought a first round corner would have made to this point. So if it's one of the other, it's Carl Lawson. You know what else has to take place in order for this season to be successful? Their best players have to play their best. But I go back to what just happened this past season And if you look simply from a Monetary standpoint, a cap standpoint of what they spent. The chunk of the cap it took up. And what they got in return. The classic return on investment mean AJ Green $18 million What did they get out of a J. Green? I think there were four weeks he did not have a catch during the season. Gino Atkins. Next at 14.2 Million. What do they get out of Gino Atkins? Zip zilch. Nata, limited snaps and one pressure. I think one tackle the entire season. DJ reader got hurt the big offseason investment. He'll be back had the thigh injury, but that was 10 Million. They spent Trae Waynes 10 million counted this year. Bobby Hart, Don't even get me started. Carlos Dunlap. Don't even get me started there. And I mean, that's 1234. Those air six guys those of the six biggest cap hits and what what production did they get combined out of Green Atkins Reader, Wayne's Heart and Dunlap and you can't win in the NFL. If your best players don't perform their best. Release your highest paid players in theory, your best players because you're devoting that kind of money to him. But you had. You know, Sean Williams didn't play much. His cap. It was around five. You know, John Ross around five million. See Jay Oussama got hurt. He was closer to six million. Joe mixing got hurt, and we didn't hear from him. For what? The final how many games of the season and that was about four million on the cap. Jonah Williams got hurt. I don't want to say again, but but he got hurt, So that's a big stack of talent..
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"I mean, as far as in the big picture of your looking every position is up, you know? And so, yeah, that was the one you hoped you could count on. You had some You know, And it's the center is the brain Trussell that senator stuff that people love to say. And so, yeah, that's not great. And I think that that's gonna be another position is not to add to the list. I think you know you have Billy Price here, um, on, you know, first round pick starting center who was going to be on his rookie contract? So you do have that or other options that you can consider whether it be somebody in free agency or whatever, but they had Lisa. At least they haven't entire offseason to plan for. It usually didn't happen in like camp or something like that. You could deal with it a little bit easier at this point, even though you'd rather not deal with it all. For those who don't follow the finer points of the salary cap, at least during the season that the cap number per team is going to come down because of the pandemic. I think we all understand that the bangle spend a ton of money last year. You're a Jay's money's going to come off the books. They're obviously not paying. Carlos Dunlap. We've talked extensively about the decision they have to make with Gino Atkins. But and this this number can evolve and I don't need you to give it to me to the exact scent. But do they have a lot of money to spend in free agency When you You take what they want. It may want to pay the players on other teams and give to guys who are on the 2020 team. Yeah, I mean, I think they do. I think that if you know The thing is, it's comparatively they're going to be in the top 5 to 7 or so in cap room, and they'll be moved to happen. That could even make them. You know, they could put them up higher. We'll see how it all plays out. You know that's going to be an important element this year because with the cap being lower, and so many teams are on the wrong side of it that are, they're all gonna be cutting and not really even have hardly any room to make real moves. I think you'll still see the first wave of free agents should be like it is And I think the Bangles have enough money there to be involved in that. Similarly, as they were last year where you could target one or two big names, I would think Difference is going to be. I think the 2nd and 3rd wave that's gonna happen. Because he was just won't have the money overspend on the middle guy on those guys. I think those numbers they're going to come down and that really benefits that seem like Bangles. The bangle that have roots were now all the sudden like we saw last year with von Bell habit, knowing they didn't expect Bonne Bell to be sitting there in an attainable price at that point in time. There, he Woz because the market kind of fell to them that way. I think there's gonna be a lot of guys doing that this year. Just because of the financial situation. And so you could see, you know, 3 to 4. You know, Bonne Bell types. If you will, that you could pluck after you do that You do your moves at the top, and you get a little bit more bang for your buck because the situation that they're in, so it's compared it more so than anything. But, yes, they will definitely have to have the money to be active within reason. But when you have the last year they didn't really have much. Hubbard Bates extensions are gonna are on deck and you can know to be pretty significant. You have those kind of hovering over you, But you know the ability attack. The offensive line in free agency is wide open for them. And it seems to be the obvious. Number one Stop. You'll be. You'll be lobbying for Sam Hubbard to get every penny, right. I mean, look when you have Bruce Smith. Hey, you know what? He made good. He made very played. Well, maybe he got his hand caught a lot of guys with six trailers. Yes. That was attacked at that point, But you know what? I like Sam Hubbard. I think he's I think he's very good for what he is, is not Smith. But you know what? A comparatively on this team relative to the amount of blood sins of the world Hey, might be All right. One more. I got 30 seconds. I'm going to spend the offseason feverishly like scanning the Internet for, you know, videos of job, Earl walking Joe Burrows standing in line at the cracker barrel places like that morphing into a light. Dog than him, ultimately throwing the football. That's that's how I'm going to spend the next like five or six months when I do, um, I gonna have in the back of my mind that Well, if if Joe can't go, Brandon Allen, I'm not gonna talk myself into Brandon Allen being the guy week one. Or will they engage in the hunt for a backup quarterback? I think Brandon Allen, probably the leader in the clubhouse, but I think it also falls back to similarly where? Hey, you know, we'll see what the market bears out. I mean, for Dallas didn't expect to have Andy Dalton that three million last year or the Saints with Jameis Winston at one, You know, I mean, I think you you could end up with things that you didn't expect to end up with. And I think they'll be very open to that particular depending on where his progress is that I also they saw that kind of brand now and that you feel very they felt very comfortable with him as their number two. I combined the two segments in the one. You're welcome. I'll see you next Tuesday later about that's a Paul dinner. Junior covers the Bangles for the athletic his.
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"And when I say I'm blessed, blessed for my health and blessed with my relationship with, you know, with my God, I'm blessed. The people around me on blessed to have great friends. There's a lot that we sometimes for example, you know, we love Sometimes we evaluate things and we look at the negative side before we look at the positive thoughts. I have so much to be thankful for in so many ways that might continue. Black is obviously I want it. I want to give back like I talked my way we teach our Children. But I think we can take this. Know me. Personally, I think it has a Z A learning experience and see, you know. Did we? We took so many things throw in 2020 19. And before we took so many things for granted, I don't know if we're ever going to get back to that point of normal seekers. We don't know what that is anymore. So I guess they abnormal will become the normal moving forward with our lives until the you know this thing has really figured out. It's figured out, and that's one of the things that we have to be careful of Sterile. We're talking as if you know the changing of the clock and less than an hour is going to change the whole atmosphere in the situation that we're in. You know, we're assuming that 2021 will be better when it comes to the cold it but we don't know. So I think we need to not take that for granted and prepare ourselves and do the nothing. Everything that you know that right? The ship opposed to doing things that you know that we we sometimes take for granted. That's realistic expectations. That's what that is, and not better living through lower expectations, which was when I joke about, But that's a realistic and reasonable way to look at it to keep your sanity because you don't wanna get yourself build all up and then see that you know, it is just another day in a turn of the calendar, which is a piece of paper or digitally. You know, life is still rolling. You just got to do the best that you can Tim McGee. I'm curious, and we've talked about the Bangles. It's been a struggle for some time We saw the highs of Joe Burrow, starting in the challenges with that in the injury, and then Ah, lot of things are going right now, with two wins in a row, going for three with the Ravens in town, you'll be doing the show after as you usually do, which took a long wait the last one of the season and the first technically in the new year, but it's still the last 2020 season. What do you expect, with the Ravens and the Bangles getting it on one o'clock on Sunday. Well, first of it. My first comment about the game on Sunday is, uh, I don't think you'll see the same success. The limited success that the Bengals have against Pittsburgh and the Texas for various reasons of Baltimore has so much to play for this game. There's there's playoff implications there their future pretty much their short term feature and getting into the playoffs, the hopefully get Tau Super Bowl and won a Super Bowl so They're not going to take the Bengals for granted by no stretch of imagination and they're healthy, So I don't on paper. You know, I always say this on paper, I don't give the Bengal the fighting chance and my hope And if I could cast that vote and They would win, But I thought I was a betting man. I wouldn't see that. And then when we look at things from a this year perspective this in this entire year we look at and we look back. I'm a glass half empty type of guy when I'm evaluating this season simply because I got to say I will never lower my expectations for a team to be too coming for 11 and one just if that's how they turn up is just can not and will never say. Oh, there were some good points about that. And that comes from them inside that locker room No one when we did have bad seasons, which we didn't have many, But when we did we looked at that, as in everything went wrong or too many things with wrong and we were, but we wouldn't settle for that. And I hope the fan base don't 74. You have to demand more. From the coaches, the management and, of course, the players. Collectively, you have to demand what we cannot get into this law. Will we be Pittsburgh and that was our Super Bowl. You know, I don't I don't believe in that. Sure. I just don't tell McGee was sterling 700 wlw talking to enter 2020 into the new year. Bangles. Of course. Uh, here's lead me to something else, and I don't know that I've never asked you this before, or anybody else Now that I'm thinking about it. You mentioned in that locker room in Ah, team that has that, you know, maybe a four in 11, 4 11 and one record, whatever it is, and when it's wrapped up, and you know it's a struggle in. It's a losing record, and it sucks. And you want to get better. No, we're gonna get draft pick this. That the other thing, injuries all the causation that goes into it. But if you're a part of that receiver corps we've seen, you know some some new blood come in. And grow in, show some talent and given the opportunity to get it done on the field and seen some success, And that's not just with the receiver corps. But and some other spots, too. How is that? How do you Are you happy with your performance? When everything else around? You has not been a solid? I mean, there's a weird animal tow walk into, I would imagine in that room or how you hold yourself. I've done a good job. We've been lucky and made it work. We work hard and seen good things happen, however, around you, it It's ugly enough. Well, you could look at two things two ways, and that's a great question. Number one. You could look at it from an individual standpoint. You look at my stat What I'm doing how I'm preparing myself and my still coming to the game with enthusiasm and my excited about playing and my plan for calls. Yes, you could look at all those no sex But ultimately you gotta look at this. You have to look at and say and my contributing Enough to put our team in a position to win a game. Coaches always say this, and it really means a lot. But Sam Hubbard did the one of the last place of the Texas game. He made a play that consequently ended up being selling the deal with you will, and that's how you have to evaluate yourself, not just on your overall stats to say okay. Hi, Tim McGee. I had 70 Cassius for 1200 guards. And then whether you know eight touchdowns. Okay, Great. But if we go through 11 is very selfish of me to say my stats were good, but I don't know. Was I making impact place? Because let's just face it, And this is one step that people don't really as a offensive player and my making these caches and my making plays when they really matter or making them at a half or, you know when we're down by 25 points, and we're throwing the ball in the defense's and prevent defensive, or am I going to make plays where they're going to be, as I say, impact plays? That's going to determine the outcome of or help determine the outcome of the game in favor of my team. That's solid. That's that's good. I like the way that that makes good sense and that's all I'm trying to do. And it's always great to talk to you to get that perspective that insight from that experience that you have a zip layer and winning. And then now, you know, obviously covering those Bangles Sunday afternoon following that one o'clock kick off, and hopefully a Bengals win over the Ravens in town to wrap it up for 2020. Even though it'll be 2021. It's always weird to me in..