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Food Fight: How 2 Trump Proposals Could Bite Into School Lunch

NPR's Story of the Day

00:00 sec | 9 months ago

Food Fight: How 2 Trump Proposals Could Bite Into School Lunch

"To News now that the trump administration is working on a pair of rule changes to reduce what it calls fraud in a big government program but as NPR's Corey Turner reports. Hundreds of thousands of kids will lose access to a free lunch at school for Change Number One. The trump administration is targeting the supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program known as snap or food stamps. Sonny perdue the. Us Secretary of Agriculture told reporters. That states have been too generous with the program whose states are taking advantage of loopholes that allow people to receive the snap benefits who would otherwise not qualify for which they are not entitled by tightening the rules the government estimates more than three million people will lose access to food stamps. Now what's that got to do with the Free School Lunch Program? Let depends on who you ask. The truth is the real impact of this rule on school. Lunches is virtually zero. That's Sam Donaldson Policy Director at the Foundation for government accountability. He testified earlier this month before the House Oversight Committee but at the same hearing Diane Sullivan told a very different story without snap. In addition to having less food at home my son's could lose access to free school meals. Solan is an advocate with the group. Witnesses to hunger and has two sons in high school. Now everyone can agree on at least one fact here. Food Stamps and free school. Lunch are separate programs. But for millions of kids. They're connected. That's because years ago. Congress worried that many low-income kids weren't eating at school simply because their parents hadn't filled out the paperwork so lawmakers throughout the paperwork telling school districts any child in a family that gets food. Stamps should automatically get free lunch. So what happens to kids when their families lose access to food stamps well? The trump administration estimates that forty thousand kids will no longer get a free school lunch and they won't qualify for a low cost lunch either. Many more will lose free lunch but will still qualify to eat at a reduced cost. That's a consolation for Diane Sullivan. And her sons even if they qualify for reduced cost. That's two hundred and fifty two dollars an annual expense. My already overwhelmed. Budget CANNOT ABSORB. Advocates are also worried though about one word. Adolf's and said lawmakers in fact in thirty four states not one single child will lose their school lunch eligibility that word eligibility see dolphins right that even with these food stamp cuts. Most kids won't lose eligibility for a free or at least a low-cost school lunch. But here's the big difference. The getting it won't be automatic anymore. The trump administration estimates the families of nearly a million children may soon have to turn paperwork so their kids can keep eating. Experience tells us that far too many will fall through the cracks. We used to Davis heads the no kid hungry campaign and she says making parents opt in to the school lunch program like this may sound small but confusion about eligibility complex paperwork. Human error in stigma create barriers to enrollment. The other big change affecting school lunches is about something called the public charge rule. It's an old requirement that folks who want to become citizens have to show they won't depend on public benefits. The trump administration wants to tighten the rules there too frightened a lot of people a- Patricia Gandara Codex Civil Rights Project at UCLA. And she says while the school lunch program is not part of this government crackdown. It doesn't seem to matter. School personnel knows that the children are eligible but the parents won't sign the forums because parents are also very afraid of signing anything that looks like they are using any benefit for fear of losing their their status their green cards. The public charge rule is set to go into effect later this month. As for those food stamp cuts the administration had to open its rule for public comment. Lots of people aired their feelings and the administration can't really finalize the change until it's read through those comments all one hundred and eighty four thousand of them Corey Turner NPR news.

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"Sell those plates!"

The Tony Kornheiser Show

00:00 sec | 9 months ago

"Sell those plates!"

"Previously on the Tony Kornheiser show. That was an ugly day. I'm not gonNA give it away but the initial had to minute jo-john Joe Johns and Darren. I have made lunch for us to be poisoned her. Keep Pastrami and that didn't go over well in our high swab is over. Thirty say abbey were the only ones and I said I remember. They were all jumping in the water to vomit. I say you can't get good deli out here. The Tony Kornheiser show is on now. You can't do it more than twice a year. Yes Wendy honestly doesn't know any of the stuff that we're doing on this show delight so much fun to have. Rieger on just a total delight to people who are writing about DC schools and how schools are closed for one day the DC schools closed all week. My right on this Michael. You are correct. Uc schools stop writing. You know so I mean get some facts straight before that guy who wrote me from Minnesota and criticize my grammar really shut off and we don't. We don't really need this do we? You're in a good mood today. You know why I'm in a good iron up. We have a security camera in the studio which is flashing Blue Light Right now. It's recording so the thieves that come in here and steal our chairs and steal everything else and rearrange the decks. You know we're going to catch them. This is good and I don't. I don't care. This is not one of those ring things like if you WANNA call up and say something like `I'm Santa Claus. Don't you like Santa Claus? Do you think you're going to hack us? We'll stop it. We're not children here. We're not children. We have a security camera. It's actually one of those little boxes. You put in a two AA batteries and the light on it. Blinks doesn't have it doesn't have a functional camera but I thought it would appear well as far as you know. That's a functional cameras. Functional Camera Monitor Twenty four seven. Yes yeah but your local so get off my lawn. Shakes fisted cloud. You haven't heard anything wrong. I know what I heard off air people who I got one of those to stand by. For example Newman people who are concerned about the political bent of this show and who themselves angered by either being too far right which I don't understand too far left which also understand. Let let me just sort of explain where I am politically for most of my life I would have been on the left side of the aisle not way left but on the left side of the aisle and I I find myself now if there is a middle in the middle because the people who have gone so far to the left I have no idea I mean that's what I feel about Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. You know that they don't really represent me and I'm looking for something a little bit more in the middle that that's just me personally. We have stopped doing politics in the main. I know you think that Chris does a lot of we have Chris Cillizza and we have chuck todd and by the way. I'm going to say this publicly. If Howard fineman would like to be on this show and talk about politics happy to have Howard finding because I've always thought that Howard fineman new a tremendous amount and could communicate that well some happy to do that But we've got a bunch of people who do this. I've stayed away from it. Just because the general tenor of things has made me sad. Not I mean Jean Death. It's made me sad that everybody's yelling and screaming and just listening to the sound of their own voices And I it's not meant as criticism of any particular individual. Just sort of the collective has made me sad Trump down trump for example went wild last night pardoning and commuting sentences and we can talk about the one that the only one that really mattered to me was Eddy debartolo because Eddy. Debartolo was a great owner of the San Francisco. Forty niners and if you watch the news last night any barlow is not high up on the food chain of who got pardon. Blagojevich is high up on the Terek. Their high up on the FUTON milkin their high up on the food chain not. Add bartle who did not go to prison who was convicted and had some sort of sentence but did not sell the team lead. Let's night when you say advocated guilt. Yes you'll feel. So here's the deal. Did you see the players who came out in support night of Eddy Debartolo like Jerry Rice and Jim Brown Eye Eddy Debartolo? That guy was a great owner. You know I'm not what it's not hold on. That has nothing to do with what he did. He pled guilty to a felony and whatever the sentence was the sentence was. I'm just saying that in the world of sports when that happened people all we like it and he did it he did it. This is not an invention he did it but people liked Eddie. Debartolo to very much and his old players they. These are hall of fame people who came out and did this and and it didn't look like they had time to get together. Seemed Rather Halloween she describing Jim Brown and and Jerry Rice as hall of famers time columnist. I mean they're not you know. They're they're the greatest. They are the greatest at their positions ever ever and they were out there so you could make a case that sports people are insular and would cut somebody like to barlow a break jess that they would not cut someone up break. Who's been convicted of drug aren't Medicare for all t? I'm guilty of gazing at the Naval of sports and I fully admit that and again say again and again and again what he did was wrong and he pleaded guilty for it. You know I'm just talking about the other part part the sort of sports part. Where if you say to me Eddy Debartolo. Why think forty niners if you say that to someone in the legal profession they think convicted felon or you know admitted felon then I understand anyway? This got me to the point of in the news all day yesterday and all day today you will hear about Mike Bloomberg qualifying for this debate and we haven't heard we've seen his ads and we've heard Bernie Sanders. Say Can you do? You can't electoral by an election in this country. Yeah I don't you know actually you can actually a cat but I don't even think he's doing that because at some point you gotta get votes you know. Just can't you just can't put a bid down for the presidency and if it's the highest bid you get it you have to actually go out there and the other. Democrats are taking pounding. Essentially what they're saying is hounded he he earned you can say. He used his money to to earn it but he earned the right to be in this debate by virtue of the polling. That's they're basically saying we don't care how much money he has or how he did it. The fact that that enough of you WanNa hear him that he has earned the right should. He should be disqualified because he's branch unreasonable to me. Right doesn't is let us decide we the people I mean not me personally but people have decided they're interested enough in this guy that they wanna see him on the stage. You should be on the stage. Yeah so right now you want me to cross you on stage being a billion I want him to go out there and be a mean s someone who looks like he could take on trump okay. I know we're not talking politics here. But that's my opinion and again if you come to us for politics your fool which is people. Don't know anything about really no less than you idiots so now so what I was hoping for. I said this to Matt Kelleher yesterday. I was hoping that tonight or whenever this debate is tonight Mike Bloomberg looks directly at Bernie. Sanders appears to be not not necessarily. He's his biggest accuser but most important accuser at the moment. Because he's running ahead of every misread the rich Bernie. Yes and you say so I would say somebody wrote this down. I built my own successful business. Which you didn't. I've governed big city in the last fifteen years which you haven't I've made deals with my political enemies that help people which you haven't and I'm not a communist which you walk and that's what I would say if I were Mike. Bloomberg Matt Kelleher looks at me and he goes no no no no no he should just attack trump. He doesn't even pay attention to the attacks on him. He should just go after trump because what he should be saying is I'm it. I'm the nominee. Here's where we're going and that's what. His ads are pretty much saying his ads. Aren't he's not cannibalizing. The other democratic mentioned as they are to each other he's saying I can beat Donald Trump. You lets out. I will disclose my medical records which you would add as well right Biden interestingly about a month or six weeks ago sort of took took that kind of approach. A get a low to me. I'm here to beat. Donald TRUMP ignored. Everyone else hasn't worked out for him. Sara Lee I think two genes point there is an L. If I might not that might not be my opening salvo but if attacked I think you could make an argument that it's that it benefits Bloomberg for people to see him come back and defend himself because he is going to be attacked. The nominee is going to be a lease rent. All the tapes in the last seventy two hours indicate an orchestrated attempt to sabotage Bloomberg by using his own voice And you know what that's fair. You're running for this thing. There's only one guy ever who is not sabotage by these variety that guy he's one. He won the Bloomberg apparently is guilty of running his business and conducting himself in the eighties and nineties by an eighties. Ninety Standard. And you know that's a crime now right as a crime Michael. You're young do you. Do you pay attention to these things I do. I'm more interested in the timing. Now which is if you are say supporting the other Democratic candidates right now the timing of this debate and having him onstage tonight when he's not really in this caucus are you going to sort of take shots too early and give them enough time to reframe the story particularly about one phrase which is stop and Frisk that he can still get what he's looking for which is Super Tuesday and he can build on that momentum and that's really going to be the one attack. I think the money stuff is something he's able he's GonNa be able to to sort of move away from because at a certain point if it's coming from one or coming from a million small donors it's all going into one pot. It's money it's money. It's I don't really understand that. He made this money legally and he's spending his own. Money says own money yes and people are allowed to do that and people are responding Donald. Trump's spend his own money when I got in your. Yes isn't that. Frankly there's another story which which has to do with the the Bernie supporters and their attacks on on everyone at this point which I think is going to also shift some of the focus away from Bloomberg and continues to help the guy who's sitting in sixteen hundred. Yeah so I wanted to say one other thing as long as I was ranting. How do they get the EMU in the car ema in in Liberty Mutual? We need to look at that more. Careful gotTA digitally actual. That's a highly trained AMMO bangs on the glass when he sees its own reflection. Gee I I am so sick of those commercials are really and and I- liberty mutual emails which I keep blocking and yet they still come pouring into my anabolic Dhammika. Blocking things you actually click. Doesn't I tried to get a free razors? Which and then. Oh the story with that so I go down the road on I they. It was free razors okay. It was free razors and I click. Click Click Click. You get an email. You mean saying free razors me. Free Razors no one would do fifteen pop of windows later so yeah and then the last question was where do you stand on the impeachment of Donald Trump? Are you for it or against it and I failed at that point? I said what does that. What does that have to do with the fact that I'm trying to get either free razors or a ten dollar Gift Certificate for Kentucky Fried Chicken now which they also offer they offer you these things all the time and then it contract and that wraps up the the open because that's politics I guess these are the people who are critical of the show for the Political Bent that takes but I just thought this is too much. I'm giving you my name and my address being product. Who's your first grade teacher? Let me let me recommend on the heels of that let me recommend you and I wish I knew off hand who wrote it. I don't but a piece in this month's Atlantic about the disinformation campaigns being perpetrated by by both sides just sort of politically online that the a piece in the Atlantic that just came out last week which is fascinating about how they use Internet and stuff like that. I get every day. I get five emails about something called Halloween. Spirit every day. I get five emails. I'm old about getting an oxygen tank. Okay I get five win. I went to the wrong address about mortgages. Oh is that what I still get the horny Asian singles or something to be said shorter singles? I get I can silver see ads. Which infuriate me for weight loss programs? I'm like Nike. I just you know. It's just unbelievable and forty geico ads. Forty Day yes enough. And if that Gecko shows up in my beer. I'm flowing in the Garden Jeff. Passan will join us when we return and talk about the Astros. I'm Tony Kornheiser this. Take the Tony Kornheiser show. This is a new a new re dead before we get going. 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Currently I play in a band called South Ridge with three musicians much more talented. The myself we play in and around the state of Indiana and are scheduled can be found at our website at South Ridge. Live Dot Com. It's amazing it's simply amazing Jeff. Passan joins US now Jeff Passan came on the PTI show week ago and just took it way deep out of the park and as a result every show on ESPN now puts him on so we have to arrange our schedule to put him on my only advice to Jeff would be you know. Get an exclusive deal with us. We have the highest ratings. And you're wasting your. You're wasting your time on these other shows absolutely wasting your time and you hit it so deep that people even call doesn't said why guy was great. That guy was honest to God. That guy was great. So you're the guy so let's start with this. How widespread how widespread among teams and players is the anger at the Astros? I've been covering baseball for about twenty years now so I came in after steroids. I have I have never seen anything close to this. I mean the biggest The biggest deal before this where players might have been angry and spouting off about. It was when Alex Rodriguez got suspended for one hundred. Sixty two games for using steroids. And there was nary a peep among the players. So it's not just Kelly seeing players. Come out it's the magnitude of the players. It's Mike Trout. Who doesn't say anything about anything who who doesn't have like an opinion on toast in are coming out and ripping the Astros It's it's Aaron. Judge who has made it like his life's goal to be the nicest person ever to deal with the New York media and he's coming out and absolutely crushing the Astros it's Justin Turner. It's I I mean it goes on and on and on and on and and it's just like every day is a new adventure in who's going to say something bad about baseball and that would Lebron James tweeting out to forty five million followers. Hey Rob Manfred get things straight. 'cause this is problematic so my immediate pushback is this. Everybody tries to steal signs. Everybody in baseball. Everybody Cheats This is the wilpon argument when He. I said this is no big deal and I said No. I really think this is actually a big deal and turned out. I was on the right side of the angels on that one but everybody does try to cheat so these guys are making a distinction between cheating in a regular acceptable way and cheating in a high tech way. Yes yeah I think it's I think it's cheating? And then I tell us is cheating Ryan what the what the Astros did was italicized cheating. I mean there. There is the expectation in this goes like all the way down to little league. That if you can feel signs from catcher using your eyes do do it in that in that if you if you have signs picks and you gotTa run around second base and you can relay that you have to be the hitter at the plate do it. And that's perfectly acceptable. That's well within the the. You know the baseball code Where it goes beyond the Pale is the real time No runners on base relay of what's coming to to players at the plate and and what was so hubristic about it like it makes me laugh. Is THAT THE ASTROS FOR YEARS? Have Been painted as as this organization That is so future base everything that they're doing whether it's using high speed cameras whether getting rid of scouts. Whether it's going as one person who worked there told me ninety nine percent analytics to one percent scouting all the things. The Astros have done have been pointed toward big data and they're banging on a trash cans or relays. Yeah that's how this scheme is being perpetrated it. Just it is so ham-fisted and so hilarious And and it just you know. This story keeps getting better every day. So let me cut to the chase here. I mean we can all agree that Jim Crane is was a disaster and he should have been scripted. And that's baseball's fault and there's a lot of things we can agree on and I think the main thing we can agree on is the probability that Rob Manfred miscalculated the anger and now you have as you mentioned Lebron James and people say give the trophy back and I. Here's here's my problem. I'M GONNA ask you to to to tell me what what Manfred should do. And what he will do. But here's my problem. There steroid champions. Alex Rodriguez Andy Pettitte. At least them took steroids and the Yankees were there. A steroid champions and steroids was far more widespread. And nobody said give those back. So what how far does man for go? And does he concede a miscalculation here? And could you see him saying you know what we're GonNa take this one away. I think it's going to be very interesting to see how he plays this. Because Rob Manfred. He has always been such a calculated person. You know he is the two steps ahead guy. He is the guy who when you walk out of the room. You look at the other person and say wait. Did he just fleece us? And and that's why since taking over Labor negotiations in the mid Nineties Major League. Baseball has gone from historically incompetent in labor to winning year after year after year and putting in place this economic system that has been a source of such consternation so rob. Manfred Hornell. I'll arm was in girls Cornell Iowa right absolutely rob Manfred the guy you typically wanting situations like this but to say that it is a miscalculation I think under represents what's happened here. I think rob Manfred saw the saw the pathway to this as I wanna get this investigation done as soon as possible. I WANNA come out publicly and have people get blamed in shamed for this and then we're going to be able to. Tuck IT in and go to bed at night and start focusing on baseball He did not expect players to come out and say what they did because Tony historically they haven't like this is something brand new with baseball players. I don't know if it's a result Of of them looking at NBA players and saying player empowerment is a thing even though that empowerment is leading to them going and slamming members of their very unions. That that's exactly. That's what I want to get to. Because there are people out there writing really stupid facile columns taking sides screaming about rob Manfred. Because it's an easy shot to take somebody and these. These pieces are so bad. I don't even know why read them. I mean rob. Manford is a labor lawyer. He he understands that if he didn't give the players the ability to keep playing. You lose the players. You lose the game but Tony Clark who has been as far as I know is silent as put on common in the last two weeks. He's got this problem because his union represents the cheaters and the players. Who say that the others achievers what is where is the common ground here between the baseball players and the baseball commissioner or is there none the problem here and I'm GonNa get pardon me a little into the legal we'd here that's fine Rodman. Nobody's Lasantha work. Rob Rob Manfred knew from the start that he had no good options. So let's let's go through one of the options here. He decides to suspend players The Union is going to not only fight that but it is going to win. They're going to win business. Yeah because in September of two thousand seventeen when the League sent out a memo to general managers and managers and other front office personnel thing. Any sign ceiling using electronics will be dealt with in a punishment fashion. Anytime you change the terms of discipline. You need what's called notice to be given to player and it wasn't. I Know Jeff Luna got rid of the email and Aj hinch never anything and it players if players do not have noticed they're gonNA lose the players are GONNA win. They're gonNA beat Manfred them. They're they're clearly. People don't even understand when they write these idiotic columns. They don't even understand that. So so rob Rob Manfred. Tony could have gone after the players still instead okay. Mlb Pa you go ahead and fight on behalf of cheaters. While they're there countless people in your union believe what you're doing is wrong now. The tenant of any union and the legal obligation of any union. It's the fight on behalf not just of its members but of its weakest members and right now its weakest members. Unquestionably are the Houston now. There's that's right. Yeah so I mean here's what you can do. I mean you can. You can stand up to your if your man for it and you can suspend Jim Crane which you should do because Jim Crane is the face of stupidity but actually the face of stupidity is Major League Baseball because they didn't send a crisis team in there and totally script him and Bregman and Al Tuesday. That's that's actually Manfred. Fold actually can I. Can I happen here for a second super? This is this is even more embarrassing. There was a crisis team that was working with the Astros and bill that Oh my God they let him go up there like that. They let him go up there. Tie his own news and and quiver on the gallows. I mean it was listen I have. I have seen a lot of press conferences. I can't remember one that in the middle of it. I was just looking at the reporters around me with this. This look on my face like is this real life or is he. Is He answering these? I don't know if you heard I I. I was the one who asked the follow up when he said It didn't have any impact. Yeah and you just it then right I was like did you just say it didn't have any impact. I think my voice cracked a little like it was just such a such an utter debacle. But but wouldn't you expect that from the organization that said that it had zero tolerance policy toward domestic abuse and traded for Roberto soon in the middle of a domestic violence suspension. Wouldn't you expect from the organization that had brand Taubman Smearing yeah the reporter from sports illustrated and completely lying about what they did and trying to hang onto that lie not for minutes not for hours but for days when they knew and when the evidence was so clear that they weren't telling the truth. So you know you're one hundred percent right and the Houston. Astros are an organization that perhaps should be admired with the the ability to win because they assembled a really really good team and cheating or not cheating. That's still a really really good team. But everything everything they did. In terms of hiring and in terms of practice was obnoxious and deliberately obnoxious. So you're faced with this. Now THEY HAVE BECOME VILLAINS. They have not even they. You know they've said what's in the past is in the past and we want to move forward and you can't say that they haven't owned it. They said we did it. But they've never exactly said we've cheated they and and all of that is true and now you rob Manfred and now because of the world in which we live with social media now you taking gas from Lebron James and other everybody in your own sport and people and other sports as well and it seems to me you get pressed closer and closer and closer to actually vacating this championship. Jeff should he? Will he vacate the championship? I'm GONNA dance around this a little though. Not Please listen. I'm going to do for reason. I'll I'll answer your question but I I think there's some important context here and the context is as long as the owners believe and Rob Manfred. He does not have the need to go out and do a big thing. You know I was talking with someone about this a couple of days ago and I've been asking everyone around baseball the question how does MLB rescue itself from This disaster that is unfolding around it where the integrity of the sport of the person running the sport and of the players in question and to all of them say there needs to be a big move right now to change the narrative. That big move. I think Has Three Different iterations number. One go hard after Jim Crane bad that I think that would be the right thing to do. I also think that when your boss and your boss is our thirty owners and Jim Cramer is one of the one and they don't WanNa they don't want to expose themselves to potential future damage for something that they don't believe they had a hand in. It's GonNa be really difficult to get ownership on board with that number. Two is vacating the championship in wall. Rob Manfred has taken attack so far that doing so opens up a Pandora's Fox. He does not want to open. We are getting more and more to the place where it feels like. That is what's going to happen now. I'm not saying I listen. It's a big big deal to do that and I personally I I look at it the same way. I look vacated. Ncwa championships like like why you know what's the point. They played on the field. They did it History is going to look at it as if there's an asterisk there anyway. Isn't this just something to try and get the public back on your side? But maybe the argument is it needs to get the public back on his side. Because he's the Commissioner of the sport and the third thing is to fall on the sword and I at this point. I do not see rob. Manfred doing that. But the second he loses the owners he loses his job. All right I understand all of those things the vacating into seems to me to be the reasonable one. But I I wouldn't do it. There's a long game here though Jeff along isn't that long when actual game start and people focus on baseball this is going to be forgotten and what you're going to have not so much forgotten as it's going to be players saying things like look we're playing the Games now. Let's you know we did this. I don't want to keep talking about this forever. And ever and ever and ever. Is He playing the long game? I think there's part of that but I also think that in the back of his mind there has to be the acknowledgement that he completely miscalculated The gravity of this the first time through so the idea that this is going to go away because game start. I don't think that's realistic You know I was at Astros camp yesterday and it was the first day where it felt like there. Wasn't something happening. All the players had talked this week. And then what happens The the most famous athlete in the world tweets out that baseball broken. Yeah like that. You know those are the things that sneak up on you and that you can't prepare for you can't prepare. Tony for one. Alex core is going to speak publicly. You can't prepare for Carlos. Beltran is going to tell his side of the story. You can't prepare for an astros player being thrown at hitting the head and having to go to the hospital these are all I mean. This is such a tenuous situation that the idea that it's just going to go away. I don't think is realistic. I mean this is going to be around for a while still and maybe it does die down but it seems like there's always fuel there to pick it right back up thank you. I know you have other hits to do. But nobody's GonNa give you sixteen and a half minutes like we. Nobody just not not not just that I must say my good friend mark finds and it'll be yeah he listens. Yeah is the biggest fan of this show. And when he hears me on it He's going to be incredibly jealous. Find Fantastic thank you jeff. Jeff Passan boys and girls. He's really good. Yeah okay he's really good. And there's a backstory there with the Washington Post that will get into privately We'll take a break when we come back. Nigel we'll do the news for us. I'm Tony Kornheiser. This is the Tony Kornheiser show. This is the Harry's add. What if there was a fifty percent off sale happening? Every time you went shopping. Razors shaving with Harry's is kind of like that. They offer premium blade refills. Low as two dollars. That's fifty five percent off compared to the price of Gillette fusion pro shield boom now they're naming people naming naming people at Harry's wants to offer you even more savings new customers get five dollars off a Harry's trial set when you go to Harrys dot com slash. Tony Harry's believes everyone deserves quality shaving supplies at a fair price. They don't inflate blade. Prices are add unnecessary features to their razors like flex balls nor heated handles tactics. The leading brand is used a raise prices for decades. 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You know every place with ads about me. Seven yeah yeah or whatever would fall right well. Labor hit Advisory Committee we could. I'LL GET SILVER HONDAS WITH MARYLAND TAX. Off Your Street put on my street harassed right now before we get into the the news program. I just wanted to say. Recently we've had a lot of songs in in As we from boyfriends in from friends and people I don't want people to think oh I can just send it in from this. College actually had a company email from the autism written consent. Yes they have. The honest has to email us with their permission as well. So just WANNA make sure. We got that in college basketball A few games. I know you had your last matches. Baylor Beats Oklahoma. Sixty five hundred more. They remain the number at Oklahoma at Oklahoma Dayton. Vcu The number five teams. I got these both Ron Advocacy Jaffe. Seal I got these both roster close game that one yeah we started out started out the segment on PTI at in In which I will in Chicago so it's not I can't turn him. I gotta look at him through a camera And I said my friend and your friend Jimmy. Crowley went to date and he's worried about this particular game because they don't be. Vcu At vcu very often in fact they'd lost three zero add vcu. And so. I said I was going for two upsets that VC would be Dayton though. I didn't want that to happen. And that Oklahoma will be better. I was wrong I was wrong. Wilpon agreed with me as well and he was wrong on both the game. The game worth watching it seems to me is Saturday at noon Which is eleven o'clock where it's actually going to be played and that is Kansas at Baylor. Yeah that's you know that's what you WanNa do back there really is. That's a game worth watching. It is another team that won last night locally but So they might make a deep run in the tournament. This year is Maryland northwestern. I don't know if what's good right. Maryland and we we all rejoice when northwestern goes down and everything not just wilpon thousand of that went to northwestern thousand of. Um that I've worked with over the years but let's say this about Maryland for the twenty fifth time they have the best record in the big ten in the big ten is the best conference. Why wouldn't you think they could win the National Championship? That doesn't mean they will. But why wouldn't you think because they don't win resoundingly against schools like northwestern that's what were the same way all the time late in the game and Cowan and the kid in the Middle Jalen Smith of? They got something to do with this every single time. And they've beaten really good. What would worry me? And they now have a two-game cushion in the big ten. But what would worry me in the tournament is they just. They are not very deep like they have tried to develop depth but guys like Ricky Lindo and Cherie Smith coming off the bench. Just it's not there so that it's like a six or seven men game with them and that okay you can get in trouble. Don't play two days in a row in a minute. You always have a day off to rest. No more specifically like foul trouble show me Jalen. Smith plays great defense without ever getting into foul trouble. But you know one game where he gets three in the first eight minutes and you're in a lot of trump you just can't not say that. Maryland has jeans out there. The big ten is by far the best conference this year. They're going to get eight or nine teams in and Maryland will a beaten. Probably all of those teams wants so anyway to football Mr Tony Greg Olsen not good. Yeah he's good left. The panthers the might be a possibility of coming to Washington. We play for Ron Rivera. But now he in fact will be going to Seattle Seattle. The question to win when you. If there's yeah can win there or the did Ron Rivera just not pursue it hard enough or did Greg. Olsen say you know what it's going to take awhile and I'm signing a one year deal somewhere else and maybe I'll see you in the future because Greg Olsen pro bowl tight end and the and. There's no tight ends on the redskins Vernon Davis has retired and Jordan Reed. It's cannot play. Rice can't play still in still in the concussion perkins. Sam has had injury issues the last two years. That's right played. Fourteen Games this year actually three years nine the game nine the season before seven the season before that. So He's GonNa be thirty five this series definitely on the down. I just read that as he's a dude. Who wants to win? Yeah I mean yeah. He wasn't there that Clint diddy will make a comeback with redskin wish. Wouldn't that be great? Would not be Jeremy. Sprinkle I think is currently the top tight end on the skins Rosser. That's great yeah Drew brees not going away quite yet says you'll return for a twentieth season as he said to make another run at it. The thing that I didn't understand I ju- breezes forty one years old now but he is close to the top of his game. He led the League last year in pass completions. He broke the record. For the most touchdown passes cumulatively at forty one he's better than Brady was at forty one when Brady won a super bowl. He's like really still great. I didn't I didn't get it. He has led the League in completion percentage the last time and four years ago when he didn't lead the League in completion percentage he completed seventy percent of his passes for fifty two hundred yards. That goes so he is absolutely with working with a guy who's an offensive. Bright Guy. Sean. Payton everybody thinks that Sean. Payton ahead of everybody else and the two of them together sort of like belichick and Brady like guys just need to stick around together fifth. They want to have a chance now. And by the way the Goodwin wants Super Bowl one of these. It will probably come from this. Is that Teddy Bridgewater. Might not be with that and I think he. I think he is shown bridgewater after recovering from the injury that he is good to know that he can play. Sure absolutely which younger than you think. Bridgewater still like twenty eight seven. Thank you back to politics Mr Tony. Oh boy man get me in trouble. Woman Newsman Sam Donaldson Come Eighty Five. I just did that for your benefit Now that he's no longer in the news. Business has come out and endorse a political candidate and that candidate is Mike Bloomberg so I think genial reaction was the same as mine. When we read about this. I wasn't sure Sam Donaldson was still to say that I was quite sure he was no longer with us. I'm sorry to say raw. Thankfully you're happy to see him. So why is this? Why is this a thing I mean? He's out of the business because people out of the business. I think people feel that even even though you're retired once a newsman always a news person I should say always a news person. You're not allowed to weigh in people who think no. No you've gotTA maintain that neutral loss for Wad of every American citizen. If anyone undecided waiting to hear who Sam Donaldson was GonNA obviously gene. I'm quite honestly I wasn't sure. Yeah God bless him. Yes now as when you were for the Washington Post. We not allowed to vote or something a while we work with. We worked when we worked for downy when Downey Alan Downie had a thing. He didn't vote. He never talked about politics and he actually didn't vote because he thought that was be a compromise to his position The rules I recall and I certainly voted vote in every election. I mean I think I think it's not just a right. You won't even have if it's just a right. I think it's an obligation. I vote in every election But you couldn't host something. You couldn't put a sign on your lawn. Oh host something. That's totally fair. Put a bumper sticker on your right. You could not wear your political affiliation. That's famous it had nothing to do with my life. I was sports writer. But it's Okay. That's fair that's fair. I thought that not voting. Like at least lend didn't say oh you can't just. I'm not gonNA vote. That's even in this story today but he just he didn't want anyone who could be perceived as representative the Washington Post was it. That's right. I mean I was perfect. I would think even the people on the business side probably were under that umbrella but I don't know they had to divest themselves but they have to put things in blind trust people who who are in the Pistons section. They could not no. I don't mean I mean the business side of the paper table selling ads of people. You know delivering the trucks. I mean I don't know but I certainly editorially. That was true and reasonable to me White House correspondents dinner. Yeah John Carlos a friend of Mine John Carlos running out this year. The hosts has been selected. It will be Keenan Thompson from Saturday night live. I just commend efforts to watch his bit. What's up makes me laugh. Is there the? I don't know I don't know him but genie time he opened his mouth. It's funny I laugh. Okay that's good. He's he's been on senator for years guy when he is. I know him but I don't I don't know his work. He host the jeopardy game so funny. The all the elevator operator in David Pumpkins. I don't I don't know that the other guy has so we're going to comedians now. So the two guys can go over the line and be. Chris is some Manashian formerly daily. Show you probably remember from the spy. Who dumped me because? I know you love that move. I don't remember any of it. I don't know who he is now. He's he's actually quite funny and great net flicks in in sort of the spirit of although it's it's very heavily produced but has a Netflix special called Netflix show called Patriot. Act which is sort of in the spirit of the John. Oliver show all current events. Okay thank you on Oliver. Isn't John Oliver Great like you'd be Glenk Yeah everyone agrees. Johnny Great John Oliver. I is better than anybody I've ever seen on television appropriate. Use of really good at it. It's good I well. I just hate somebody who is not a citizen of the United States. Okay ripping wait a minute. We've saying American podcast. Yeah I mean it's just really get. He's very good but that still just grind away at me. Select how we get upset. When you talk about Meghan and Ari or they're coming here though we're going to be our well. Whatever they either way. I don't really let me just let me just correct jeans racist profile. Oliver is a US citizen as of December thirteen. Twenty nineteen okay. So he's he's one of America's own wherever Harry and Meghan go. They will not be able to use the term Sussex Royal. They had that trademark. They were trying to sort of use that as the springboard all these projects that they wanted us and the Sussex Royalty wha-what consequence if they use it what happens will the the crown has said projects. They go to the tower thing. This is the project that you had hoped. Jars Have Leverage Sussex royal into not just a new website but it quote global trademark for range of items and activities including clothing stationery books and teaching materials goes into charitable foundations. Yes and a new charitable Fernandez. The name I wanNA see him outside of a gas station celine plates with their likenesses on signing him. That's what I want. Sit remark okay. Because my father used to bring my father used to fill up at shell station and then bring home an American revolution place and he collected the whole set of eight twelve. Whatever junk what is this young? Why are we have this junky? It said no you can mount them on the walls and I'm not not putting these things on walls. I'm not doing it and I want to see Harry out there and you know some plates. Yeah I'm fine. With decorative plate has has settled by the wayside. I don't think anyone. In my generation hangs a decorative play my dad did would you be okay with them on the QVC or something like that? I don't you know what I don't. I'm okay with what they can do. Whatever they want him and I don't WanNa hear that they have charitable intentions. I don't care if they do. I don't care I wanna see them out there hustling like everybody else. It's okay it's alright selling plates. Yeah it's brilliant. What walk the dog? Who's at the door Harry Chess Jesse? Here's your dog. Walk for now. Them knocking on the driver's side window of of cars asking discarded. You could be like a block. Monitor gotten away from it. Yeah Yeah I've got another story but we can hold it for those. Yeah Oh guy radio when we turn on Lewis. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show Williams smokey Robinson. This is tears of a clown. Um We have choice of a whole bunch of smokey Robinson songs and I just like this song. I mean. I like a lot of songs that he did but to me I can see him in. My Mind's eye singing this song variety of shows in the mid to late sixties on his voice is so it's just so airy right all the time I mean. He's just nobody doesn't like smokey Robinson. And he's in that special someone Berry Gordy documentary in a showtime very interesting to see him there. Why are we playing this? Smokey's eightieth birthday to my gosh. Yeah and I've found out People might know this. I was aware of this. How he came with a with a nickname. Jackie told me that. How can I tell me today So apparently as a child he loved cowboy movies and his uncle would take him to these cowboy movies all the time and the two of them came up on a cowboy nickname and it was smokey. Joe. Okay man that lasted I think until he was like twelve or thirteen or something like that. And then it just became smokey. So just because he's a fan of those movies and This song you wrote this song tears clown I do not stevie wonder well stevie wonder I ever recorded himself. I don't believe he did. He and his producer. Hank cosby wrote the music for the song and then wonder took it to the nineteen sixty six motown. Christmas party came up to smoking and said I don't this tune by letting it'd be words. Can you help with this? And so he wrote the lyrics and then recorded it and let scramble. When hit in England Day did they ever collaborate again on on a tune? that. I don't know that's pretty power stuff but I mean how'd you like the Christmas party and all the Christmas party went to the radio station. Comes up to you today. This great music. It's not allowed us than for some reason. People seem to be sending our stuff which is really against the rules but We want to wish happy to Molly Kuchar and Stephen Henry in Tallahassee Florida. That's March twenty. First everybody's got assigned this one so just signed that we gotta Merry Christmas Card from the guy's family. Yes's Scott Jill Carly Shane Zeus. Maybe Geese Zeus as the dog Tony my dad is a huge fan of yours. Watching P. T. I was a daily event in our house. Whoa what happened? We're not a isn't is yet to political and I asked him if he had any friends he want invited to. The wedding said No. But we need to invite Mr Tony. I can only imagine what your schedule is like but if you happen to be in Lancaster on Easter weekend. We'd love to have you this Maggie and John Stud. That's we have to sign this one too. This is going to be Lancaster. Pennsylvania magazine Describes magazine lead singer out? I'm GonNa Pavement thinking about the government Maggie and Andrew. Yeah congrats love is in the air and one more one more This is a save the date for Alex and Matthew in Racine Wisconsin The says Dr Kornheiser seventy-one hope to save the date does not arrive to posthumously. I wouldn't want apple stamp. If you're still alive in July it'd be the joy of the women to whom I'm about to be related by and Idaho's you on your wedding day. I recognize flying to Milwaukee to attend a wedding of some unknown millennial couple couple may not be as enjoyable as shooting ninety eight on the back nine so. I figured I could sweeten the pot. I'm more than happy to pick you up at the airport in my brand New Sky Blues Subaru. In addition I know flying can be stressful and caused went to work up an appetite so I have. I will have an ample amount of farm fresh homemade PUMPKIN bay snacks for my fiance's family farm entertainment before the ceremony. I figured we could take an electric scooter tour of the city of Milwaukee. It's truly the one the only way to experience our great city. And the only thing I ask is please bring one or two of those leftover wedding presents that you're ungrateful son his late to waste any chance for golf at blue mound and those are going out by the way this is Alexis and Matthew. And it's we wish that more looking World Matthew Ridler and Alexis. Ho Buck in Milwaukee Wisconsin sign all of these things. If we can and I'm just going to sign this one and you'll have to bear with me unless somebody else would like to talk and then I will talk again. I'm good. Don't we can hear the pen scratching. I wanted to talk A couple of things that piqued my interest. Today I mean first of all I want to say again and speaking for everybody on the show that we certainly hope that Ryan Newman recovers fully. Don't know that we ever you know if he races again. God bless him but with just fully recovered and to say this again and again and again and again I'm GONNA come endless clogs column in the Washington Post Today. 'cause we loveless Clark and she's covered this thing for one hundred years and she understands it and her first sentence shows you how good she is is the obligation of motor sports to learn from tragedy on its he would not say that about any other sport and you would say about them because it's out there all the time. Look he's guys are going two hundred miles an hour three wide maybe four wide. And there's a guy one inch from their front bumper and one inch from their back bumper. So if you don't think you don't think there's a reasonable possibility of Iraq. You're just not paying attention. Plus they're there every one of them is crazy or else they wouldn't be doing this to begin with And the strides that all autoracing has made over. The years for in terms of safety have been extraordinary. But it's not safe. How can it be safe? We knots how can it be safe and sometimes I think we said this the other day you take what happened to Dale Earnhardt boy. That looked benign when he went into it. Just it didn't know people who knew okay with the rest of us wasn't right fiery. It wasn't being as we're coming up in the air as we're Newman's looked unsurvivable Ashrafi absolutely. So you know Liz You talk about these guys being crazy Quinn. Praise and Liz brings up the notion guy like women who are in these drivers. All the drivers are crazy and she thought was a really interesting point like so many strides have been made in safety. That and and this is my conclusion. She didn't necessarily says how loud but maybe there perhaps not appropriately fearful like like. They feel even more protect unbreakable than than they are. I mean the notion that a dude and who knows what his conditions going to be ultimately but the notion that a dude lived through that crash. I mean that that was terrifying to watch and in fact as I'm seeing it happen I'm thinking to myself like how does this not happen? Every time they get out there to your point about getting rex all the time not quite magnificent but but that happens all the time. Yeah listen book on Nascar if sorry. The name is escaping me at the moment. But if you have a rod one hell of a ride if you haven't read it. I knew nothing really about auto racing it it it. It is fascinating enter. It talks about the roots of racing in running moonshine through the the genetic. Yeah and search almost Thomas Culture Tom Wolfe was the first guy to write him up. And you know and if you second Tom Wolfe that's pretty good. Yeah Tom Wolfe that great I wanted to just mention. This is a really good obituary today in the Washington Post That the death of Charles Portis whose work I was unfamiliar with but his most famous book is true. Grit and the people who line up to tell you how good this guy was. It's you know it's very impressive. Very very impressive so I commend that to people out there and this interest me. Apparently John Beeline is done as the head coach of the Cleveland Cavaliers. With a record of something like eleven forty was fourteen and forty. But something like it's an forty right. And it's way below forty losses at the all-star break. Swear way below where you WANNA be John. B Line was a very good college coach at four or five or six different schools including Richmond including West Virginia and including Michigan where he went to the final. Get the final game in the NCAA championships his record. He won about five hundred fifty games or something like that is making and the reason you know. This is because in public universities. You do have to list what people make and you should. It's okay it's alright. Yonathan listed at Georgetown. But you have to list it at. Maryland. It's Okay. He's making three point. Eight million dollars as the coach per as the coach of Michigan. That's a really good salary. It may not be in the top ten but it's probably in the top fifteen. Look that up if he could top ten college basketball coaches what they make. He apparently went. Take this job for four point. Two five million dollars. I'm not saying that. Five hundred thousand dollars a year and over five years two point five million dollars. I'm not saying that's inconsequential. I would never ever insult people by saying it's inconsequential. But you don't have to take that money and leave Michigan. You don't have to sixty seven years old and if you're making three point eight you're gonNA be fine like your family's never going to have to worry if you go to the end of your contract at three point eight million dollars a year. I'm now he's out. It didn't work and it didn't work in the most spectacularly terrible way within two weeks of him taking the job. His players were leaking stories to the press. Who's this guy? Him know anything about the pros. He's given us this college. What are you? Who's this guy and then four or five weeks ago? He called he misspoke. He says he called his players thugs and he said I wanted to call them. Slugs maybe you know. Maybe I'll accept the explanation and now and they're terrible. It's terrible team. He coached basketball for so long he had to know. The team was a terrible team and wasn't GonNa Win Twenty Five Games because they didn't last year in the not any better. They're no good. You know they're no good and now he's done he'll reach a settlement or he'll walk or whatever happens and he's a college coach is really good at it and my advice to him is to get a college job tomorrow. D One d. Two D three. Do you know Jim Calhoun. He likes to coach. He's coaching D Three School. Just because he is he likes to coach. Larry Brown would coach any place. Now what will happen? Yep High School Larry. Brown would coach John. Pilon shouldn't say you know I'm just going to retire. No no no go far into school. They'll be lining up to have this guy but it's but can't you understand Hubris. Can't you understand many thinking something? Hubristic six sixty seven years. I'm sixty seven years old. I am older and I haven't done this. I mean it. Sure he was blind to the situation. Teams lost but ego will do that to you. It will blind. You will make you think you could pull this off. I have no reaction other than sadness and empathy. I mean he's not I don't know if he's I don't know if he's a good guy or bad guy. I really don't know but I know he was a very good college. Coach is a really good college coach. What do you got As of a year ago this list was last year. He was ninth on top. Ten town like you said. Let me let me roll off a couple of I'm sure in there. What will start with Calipari and Szumowski? Yes that's one to you know. They're they're in. They're in a top ten Roy's Rois got to be an Roy's not on this list. There was surprising Chris. Holtman at number three just took the job right bill self. Yeah sure right on his. Oh Yeah Matt Shawn Miller Arizona. Who Is Amazingly still coaching? Still Coaching still coach. Huggy Bear Bob Huggins and he just. He's he's great he's a great night's Alma Mater. They were going to give them a lot of money. Larry Christova back and then John B line and then she Mila Archie. Miller took the job at Indiana recently. So Archie Miller and Sean Miller in the same family can pool their money. Ooh And do very well. I have this pink. I find it hard to believe that that he left Michigan for the cavs for the money that I don't think it has been jeans point. He had to. He wanted to see if I can do this but long right. I mean it's a terrible roster he that's my point is this. He's enough of a talent scout. He has to unlike the pros. He has to recruit every single year. He knows what's good. You can look at that team and you go is not good. It's just not any good. Then he took it and he's done and let me just point out a semi reverse corollary to that a sports story that we've been talking about on and off on this show reports. Eric enemy will probably not accept if offered the Colorado job because he wants to be at the coach right what he wants to which is understandable. But so sometimes you go. If you go sort of chase that thing it can. It can hurt you on the flip side. He be line even at sixty eight or whatever can get a college coaching job. But it's not gonna be for three point eight million dollars. Not No probably not. But YOU'RE GONNA have to do it for the love of doing it. Yeah you know because this is what you've been your whole life just quick update with sadness. I I say this. I was hoping that Brandon Todd my councilman in Ward Four. I was hoping that he would present emergency legislation to the rest of this council and that they would pass it quickly so that by tomorrow morning that Honda would be ticketed and two tickets away from being towed but I was informed yesterday that the council is not accepting this particular emergency legislation until March. And I wrote back and I said Whoa hold on a second emergency. Hold on a second. My understanding of the word emergency is that it's got to be acted upon now or else it's not really an emergent. This is an invasion there. Shouldn't there be allowances. We've hit nice for the night and I was. The pushback was in terms that I didn't even understand. There were a lot of acronyms and I didn't not as Mr Todd understand how much money you have and that you've been talking recently about trying to buy yourself a position of power in federal or local government. I couldn't get a hundred votes in ward four. Oh come on a Little Nativity. We'd have a thousand signatures. Bad neighborhood hates you. I know that without even launching any kind of campaign efforts you have received votes in the past. Because you've written in now I'm willing to bring. I'm willing to bring one of my cars over and with Carol's car. We can box at Silver Ondon and it's not going anywhere. Well it would have to park illegally to do that DC PLATE. Oh you mean you were just park really so close to couldn't get into the bumper. Need someone like Clemenza just as wait outside the house. Twenty four hours a day when that cost shows up Tell Michelle. Throw one of those dead. Rabbits Jesse kills under wiper. Don't even throw in front seats. Put it under a white percent of the message more where this came from. Of course still there unreal. I'll take a break. We'll have email and a jingle return. I'm Tony Kornheiser. You're listening to the Tony Kornheiser show. 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Week 9 Recap

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Week 9 Recap

"Number Fifteenth Twentieth Century Fox Brings You Matt Damon Christian Bale in the movie critics are calling one of the year's best film taller of that plane or versus Ferrari from the director of walk the line and Logan The Wall Street Journal raves. It's an out and out audience pleaser you're GONNA WANNA I've seen this entertainment weekly proclaims enjoy the ride trust me Ford versus for our e really. PG Thirteen may be an appropriate for children under thirteen. Doc It's Monday mornings you welcome into the fantasy focus podcast remember Ford Field Matthew hanging out recap all things from from week nine what's going on partner are we hanging out he's like this is the most through and intro without there being a thing I just WanNa know now I just like because I feel like if we're hang out we should beers we should have a crowning I'm drinking craft beer for Field Margarita get through the uh-huh yes coffee coffee delicious coffee and Thursday kyle throws up at ten am you're damn right at ten am I'll tell you this watch you know who had who had the greatest Gig in in all of broadcasting is Kathy Lee and Hoda Oh my God they're amazing right there were amazing a Catholic no longer there but she retired right she left the show but yeah they would just blatantly drink on air I they were just trying to hide it and then they just own it and like like hats off to them those those guys are my heroes like they were to start a highly this happened or no they should difference here's the thing about Kathleen Hoda Kathy Leeann hold on League League Shea they in addition to being broadcasting legends they got to truly and it's an elite level and not many people ever get there but they got truly to the D. G. A. F. Level of broadcasting you're GONNA have to look it up after the show anyway the Digi a F- go ahead and look it up all I continue talking thing and so it's rare to get like Charles Barkley I think is at that level right you know what I mean like the d. j. f. level I feel like I'm at that level on this podcast can nice girl do you think you're at that level but you are currently putting in that level of effort fair that's exactly it's a really good way yeah actually you may actually af after suggest ud there see music from the national football is steeds introduced in one game in the books and unfortunately for the colts yet another injury has struck up on offense we found out on Friday the t why Hilton was gonna Miss Likely three or so weeks because of that calf issue and then yesterday we had his ankle rolled up on as a matter of fact it was his own offensive linemen Quinton Clinton Nelson who was like a bowling ball who struck the ankle I inadvertently of course it's a week to week type situation Frank Reich the head coach yesterday yesterday after the Games that it was MC l. rche right sounds like a sprain so there's a chance by the way I'm MC l. Ish just you know are you sure yeah it is I feel feel like you're Lsu af else's yeah I'm just I'm a little bendy ish it just I feel like you're not one hundred percent healthy today you're okay your fish I'm certainly MC Ish Ish Jason Jason All right I'm in the MC you I'm okay I'm not I'm not listen I'm at the bottom of the list make no mistake when they when they when they do the big party when they do the big party and there send out the invites I'm the last one get one make no mistake and I'm in the door the door I know what you are with that so you know when you watch a movie and at the end they roll the credits obviously everybody just gets out before the credits have really even begun gone and just like whatever like you know Navarra movie because there's always an end credit scene but go ahead along is that like you know and then like inadvertently you signed back into let's say you're Disney his knee plaza counts and you go back there open up the movie that you last watch and you're like wow the credits are still rolling in just about to get to the end it's like Matthew Berry in teeny tiny eight point that's right that's you yes that is me okay let's actually football to get through today all right so yeah so am I so MC L. Ish for Jacoby for says as long along with T. Y. Hilton GonNa miss a few weeks there was a conversation to be had about the wide receivers as it were but the fact that Jacoby percent is out now let's talk about the volume begin with the Patrick Matthews Zach Pascall at a nice day yesterday your long-shot on visible now as you might launch my Longshot Zach Pascal and Chester Rogers who got into the end zone and then we'll we'll will cain asked me which one if you had to pick one I said Gimme pascal over Chester Rogers I like both both guys scored but Pasco has the better day five seventy six and a touchdown he now has four touchdowns in the four games in which he's gotten three or more targets this year he makes the Waiver Call Matthew and I think that just for now given the ty opens GonNa Miss Probably Three Games somebody has to be the number one wide receiver in the offense and not to bear the lead here Matthew but I'm not sure that from a passing efficiency standpoint it's a significant step down from Jacoby percent to Brian Hoyer no make no mistake to go percents the starter and deserves me this startup but Brian Hoyer is like he is the ultimate backup quarterback in the NFL like he is a backup in so many different spots and stepped in and done such a favorable job bears forty niners niners Brown's patriots you name it well he never really played for the Patriots but he was part of the Patriots backup room so he's definitely been trusted to run an office before and done so it a very admirable level yeah look and by the way came in and like fifty plus I was going to get seventeen to twenty six hundred sixty three touchdowns one interception on the road while taking four sacks so I mean that was a tough schedule and then you think about their upcoming schedule their home to Miami this week their home to Jaguars defense that you know looked look certainly of penetrable over in London suffered some injuries as well the Jaguars certainly have and then Houston that's a secondary that superbeet up and been I and been brutal and then you've got Tennessee in four weeks at home and that's a home game for them and by the way perset and Hilton may be back for the Tennessee game so I would think Brian Brian Hoyer if you're looking to with sixteen on a by this week does Brian Hoyer make the free agent finds calm a one-week streamer at home against Miami because they're adamant audio I've got a couple of streaming options in mind for week ten he was at the top of my list but he could be there could be there and so I think that but we agree though it keeps the passing game afloat Zach Pascall's the guy you wanna add amongst passengers footnote here footnote I know you mentioned Jessica Rogers and he did find the endzone yesterday three catches let's keep an in Paris Campbell pairs her with a second round pick out of Ohio state and as I said this on fantasy football now it kind of feels like the colts are ready there's sort of urging him on your like it's time time Paris like you're too talented not to have made more progress up to this point he had five catches I believe he had a a runner to yesterday as well by for fifty three on five targets it was tied for second on the team Pascal had six leading the team just rogers impairs Campbell each had five targets but to your point yes three rushes for twenty seven yards pairs Campbell especially with ty Hilton sideline is the fastest guy on that team and I don't think it's particularly close like so when they're trying to get speed and trying to figure out different ways to manufacture offense as they're dealing with these injuries it makes sense to try to get the ball in the hands of Paris Campbell Paris Campbell's I assume has already rostered and every dynasty league every keeper League you know he came out of Ohio state with a lot of fanfare and a rightfully so but I would agree with you I think Paris Campbell deeper leagues deeper redraft leagues it's kind of an interesting guy to see if he can seize this opportunity a tune-up think he's a week away from making the waiver wire column sure deeply though like the thing about is it sixty teams on a by it's really hard to just speculatively add players at you're not quite there yet Marlin Matt Cares about twenty one times for eighty nine yards but disappointingly had zero catches yesterday so still much ground and pound player for that offense and along along those lines matthew but here's the thing now team hines only caught one ball only target so it's for whatever reason there what they felt like how they could attack Pittsburgh didn't involve getting running-backs involve they've found a way to move the football with the air just with other players now and they should have won the game you know it's tough misfield gold they've got decision making Adam Venit Terry and I say that with the up literally the utmost resolve Famer we agree as a hall of Famer he's the most impactful kicker history of Football Adrian Peterson has a chance to put himself in at least the conversation is one of the most impactful runners of his generation he looks good again matthew so all right don't really know no where to go here with Adrian Peterson because the workload is solid right I mean and Bill Callahan if nothing else wants to run the football yes he does wants to establish the run Bill Callahan's a football guy he he is such a football guy how is totally football guy Adrian Peterson's available at about forty one percent of leaks but he was benched by more than half the people that actually roster him in week nine on the road at Buffalo Horsey quarterback I get it Sir I guess it comes down to but he ran I mean I just WanNa take a moment as a redskins skins fan. He's the only thing that I can appreciate just applaud Adrian Peterson for one second for in a in a season which you guys are now one eight there wanted going on on the road with a rookie quarterback beat up offensive line your best tackle is not playing for the team the culture despite reports is not damned good like insist assistant awful situation and yet Adrian Peterson House he thirty four thirty four thirty at age thirty four is going out there and running like an absolute beast and you WanNa talk talk about Dj F that Adrian Peterson who is not looking at the scoreboard not looking at the standings and just going out there and doing his job and really impressively and so so the question effort he is running incredibly hard as he always does but there are a couple of months go by this weekend and beyond that there is scheduler is eligible to return week eleven and he's been practicing guy he has been practicing so guys make the free agent finds call I have to go check checked to see he made it last week check to see whether he crossed the threshold my guess is probably not my guess that those lines could probably save him for one more week in mentioned him again naturally he did not cross the fifty percent threshold with Daniel is telling me I might put him in there as like a note hey available and week eleven but Matthew with the way that Adrian in Peterson is running in the fact that it is Bill Callahan as the head coach I would be very surprised Adrian Peterson Fades away which at the beginning of the season the guys was the guy for what a week and a half basically Adrian Peterson was a healthy scratch for the first time in his career in week one yes and then we to he barely played prior to the Guy Injury so I think things change I think it's at maybe at best a work share for various guys so by the way no matter who it is like even though Egypt Peterson's run well over the past few weeks has to find the end zone to be profanity relevant for like fifteen to eighteen carries touchdown firm too fancy relevant but not really involved in the passing game but again it on the road at Buffalo against a tough bills defense sixteen for one ten a catch twenty two had fourteen point two fantasy points he now has over seventy five rushing yards in four straight games he's got ninety percent of the redskins running back carries in this particular stretch. Wendell smallwood hasn't really done much Chris Thompson still banged up it'll be interesting what happens after the bye but I think your point here is well made which is that Bill Callahan wants to run the ball Paul and so like I think you'll see guys come on and have a significant role but I don't think Peterson fades away so maybe this becomes a running back by committee and it's just it's just another guy hi that they can go in and sort of run but I just wanted to sort of mentioned it number one is just to give give some props and also just you know in deeply he may be more of the option then I think we originally gave credence to Fragrant Peterson by the way real quickly before we move onto the next topic this has nothing to do with fantasy but I just want to point out in field I don't know if you you know if you can put on your your front office a NFL insider hat for a second okay reports were out there and I don't know if you heard these reports sports route here that the redskins actually fielded interest in Adrian Peterson that people called about him at the trade deadline okay and were turned down okay which is again insane to me that the front office of the redskins would like look tremendous respect for Adrian Peterson and the effort is put in but he's a thirty four year old on a one year deal like he's a free agent at the end of this year ago these signed another two year deals and I thought it was a two year deal last year two years this offseason this off season alright whatever here's diseasing here here's my guess I if they've got US conditional seventh round pick they should have done it here's why I disagree okay. Member of the uproar over Adrian Peterson Being Healthy Scratching Week Guan yes if they gave him away which in the eyes of a player of another player if you traded away Adrian Peterson for a six or a seventh round pick players would be deep in over their heads in Washington more than they probably already are because I I made but let's play that out okay let's say that happens let's say they lose the locker room what happens do we just are we then one nine are we want what what play that out like by the way there they should revolt they showed revolt and by the way they should we we had a rule we had we had an agreement no more revolting I mean no more no more you being designed I just I just you're right second functional channel it's just it's the worst run I'm not I'm going to go further than it's not the worst pro it's not the worst run. NFL team it's the worst run professional franchise we should really like we should have podcast to an office podcast where we go through our candidates because I gotTA figure they're up there I mean there's some other franchises right now the Sacramento Kings forever of stunk they'd have have some premise range promised right now but they're up their sons are bad I originally talked me in a month all right like they're like the grizzlies were like four and two last sure and they stunk they had the number one number two pick I'm just telling you I'd rather be a Phoenix Suns Fan than Redskins fans probably come on let's move onto the dolphins the team that actually has a plan have a wig let's go aboard bet win for you touched down to a field goal now after this seven to three ray or the results so we updated that three board beds last week quickly I'll read through them jets versus offense I picked up and speak the jets congratulations patriots defense versus the Mark Jackson I I had the Mark Jackson Yeah picture this one that one and then we had the the bills running backs Frank Gore versus debit single Terry Tko right there let's get offense frank course previous teams and okay the Dolphin under week nine is the lowest scoring offense in the NFL eleven point zero points per game but yesterday they get a win and and they continue to string it together with like four players that matter Matthew and that's wearing this gets interesting because have they done enough to tell you that there are multiple player player in his office at actually have fantasy value and I'm looking specifically at devante Parker Preston Williams wide receiver Mark Walton running back and Mike Koseki because he has not next to him in terms of push ineligibility so I think there are I think we can get through a couple of these quickly for Mark Walton no he per league you flex at best I don't even think that like again like twelve twenty nine three catches for twelve yards he had seven fantasy points in a game in which they played the jets let's and a game in which they and they lead so I mean like if you can't do it against the jets and that's an when do you ever think is gonna be able to do it my thought is they're at indy next tweak than home to buffalo at Cleveland like then home to Philly at at the no thank you no thank you on Martin I have no pro like the secret squirrel and I on the fantasy show on ESPN plus a company man later today we might be doing dumps Filler we doing field you know I believe that we are okay mark what will be welcome to this show Guy Okay so my Koseki yes my Koseki is interesting like speculative just because he's he's a tight end to your to your point right and this is a guy that was drafted out of Penn state with a lot of fanfare a lot of people thought going to Adam Gates offense that he would be fantasy relevant he did not not that offense was Adam gazes now coach of the New York jets but sickie was somebody that had has came into the NFL with promise and upside and we've seen we saw them be productive in college we saw them be productive on Sunday so he's worth a speculative Adamy if you're desperate to tighten in my suspicion is that there are other tight ends I would rather have like I'd rather have either Jack Doyle or Eric Hebron with Brian Hoyer I mean obviously it's like they're all kind of part of the Blah to me right they're all part of the like I'm not an ingram retrial Chelsea b. l. e. h. g. h. the extra for emphasis see I think there's always feel like there's a see in there I think it's B. O. E. C. H. I have no idea anyways let's get to the other players they'll matheson won't be fantasy please on on Craig's power that won't be like well it's going to be spelled cows going to have to interpret it and without what's the correct spelling he'll where what's the correct spelling of this word and then he then he can lack and then be l. e. a. g. h. and B. L. E. C. H. okay any event Parker and Preston Williams might actually be goes to the forty nine targets over for the last six games for Preston Williams big physical undrafted wide receiver out of Colorado State and then devante parker four catches fifty seven yards and a touchdown yesterday he's got a touchdown number session is four of his past five games tell you maybe the magic eventually runs out but as somebody who has them in the warmly matthew I have been right in the gravy train right now at the Monte Parker under under sixty yards in six last seven he's basically he he's touched independent at the moment for his fantasy value having said that it's a bad defense fitzpatrick is a professional. NFL quarterback as long as fitzy is the quarterback. I feel you know I feel okay with devante Parker as a wide receiver three and a twelve team or deeply I want somebody but but I and I think there's potential for upside more because Preston Williams left this game with an injury Yep yes so I if if I knew both guys were healthy I think I would prefer Preston Williams Liam's Devante Parker I just think he's the better player he was a star in the preseason at a monster preseason as well hip hash tag team preseason and so Preston Williams is was somebody that they obviously like a lot of a lot in the red zone you know taking advantage that six five frame but again if he's hurt even more targets for Devante Parker but I agree you both sort of you know both should make the free agent finds calm if they have not already faith it is what it is oh you've done what you could I agree on this by the way I want someone to start collecting the worst of the worst when it comes to officiating because I saw devante Parker have a one yard it was a catch for thirty nine yards yesterday it was called for pass interference offensive pass interference literally he like got hugged by Brian Poole the jets defensive player it was obviously obviously not pass interference Brian floors correctly challenged it and some of the calls stood so that sixty yards arts or fewer and six of his past seven games in my mind is five is past seven games he was robbed of nearly forty extra yard yesterday anyway by the way no but it's fair and I think you know I forget who tweeted this I saw somebody that I follow tweet this and so I apologize because it's this is not my thought but I thought this was a great thought which is that somehow the NFL leave it to the NFL to add replay for officiating and still somehow make officiating worse because which is what they've done which is like they they added the the ability to do you know challenge pass interference calls and use replay and they've somehow made officiating worse because what they're doing is they're sticking up for their guys they're like we don't want to admit it that you made a you guys screwed up and anyway that's all right so we should we stop so what's it separated make fetch happen is that what it is yeah fetch should we stop trying to make Sam Darnold L. Happen I think so yeah because we kept saying hey weeks nine through fourteen the schedule that's up so substantially and it was week nine yesterday no Sam Darnold did he sucked stunk. I think it's terrible that he goes to Jen's xenos shots to Sam Donaldson Sam yeah he was terrible spooky he a long beach the narrative this morning their questions being asked about Adam Gates whether he's the right man flu whether there he is going to be good enough spooky spooky correctness shipped girl yeah okay any yeah tha- threw an interception okay got thank you yesterday just twelve point five fantasy points that is is my one man play by the way Sam darnold versus the ghost okay I'll do a real quickly had this quick recap spooky spooky Sam interception all right so there you go and seen Sam Darnold has just one game this season with over thirteen fantasy points he's placed five in total remember that in that game against Dallas back in week six the only way he got there because that ninety two yard touchdown pass against Robbie Anderson's are we done with the jets basically as an offense no we're not done with the jets as an offense because I think we're just done with Sam darnold looking copped this like just a bad call by me like I really thought Darnold L. Starts Twelve we thought it was gonNA be good from weeks with other people can share in this L. but I I'm Gonna I'm GonNa own it you know what I mean like I was definitely like when mahomes went down I was like pick up Sam I'm Donald and look at the schedule and like whatever he was on the loveless for me this week right and just if you can't do it against Miami like what what confidence you have that he you can do it against the giants next week or at Washington even or you know I mean home to Oakland like he'll have a good game in here too it's an unbelievable schedule but when you can't do it against Miami again like the NFL average is twenty three fantasy points per game against opposing opposing quarterback average twenty-three fantasy points per game against the Dolphins Sam Darnold Donald put twelve. Yeah I mean just you know brutal here's little let's move onto the other jets players which is do I think Jamison in crowder who had eight for eighty two and I think that was all in the first half thirsty not all in the first half it just felt that way that I think he had four for fifty in the first five for for forty minutes I two drives I mean he had a monster started the game yesterday obviously it slowdown but he's been solid in the Sam darnold started that's the one thing you could sort of hang your hat on with this offense but late in Bel Mel headey decent fantasy game but like okay you're right he did and but promise that lady on Bell was drafted this year by many many people to be not this guy to be a star right and he's right and the problem is that the officers not score touchdowns and he's not a yards per carry guy isn't behind off into line he is not I by the way I'll take the Ellen Sam darnold but I would like some apologies from all you lady on Bell apologists like I got so much leaving bell was on my hate it list right I leave you on belly twelve or thirteen among running backs coming into the year and I got so much grief on that particular call beep I mean other other people had him as a top five top five overall pick top five running back I'm not gonNA name names but I just Daniel was one of them that I don't no nobody I didn't look at trays rankings but but certainly there are a lot of people that were very very high on leaving and balanced I got into many arguments and bell about the so anyway like like this is what he is guys and by the way he's healthy thank I mean this is somebody who has struggled with that in his in his issue I'll tell you one person person that I know for a fact argued with me about this lady on bell who told everyone draft him number on wrong fantasy there you go not so easily fantasy analyst isn't lady on bell they go once again can you once again lied to us two years ago you lied to us and said Hey I'm going to be there and then of course he didn't and then this year he said draft fantasy and you know what you're not what does he now on her points points per game basis he's running back what thirsty kyle figure that out for me thank you yeah Levy on bell what he is is he is not the superstar that we had hoped for an army to he's an rb two right right now and going forward this jets offense incredibly disappointed hey matthew vice what you want to are you real quick are you rolling out Robbie Anderson now you're GonNa wait wait to see it yeah fair enough I think that's correct I have an idea what given idea stop sacrificing tastes for performance when it comes to sports nutrition now what if I want to do that well stop doing that the brand has flavors as mighty as you are like cereal inspired protein Crowley sounds good and more all powered by level up tastes technology and only at the vitamin SHOPPE now you can save on pre workouts amino protein other sups backed by the body tech brands quality promise use the Code Espn Two Thousand Nineteen for twenty five percents off your entire purchase at vitamin SHOPPE DOT COM now that's S. 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DOT com or in store until November thirtieth the body tech brand know no limits the offer cannot be combined with any other coupons pons now after two big fantasy weeks at least according to the box score could you actually be shy selling David Montgomery because Daniel dumped bills very strong women David Montgomery very quickly running back seventeen running back running back seventeen I had him as running back twelve or thirteen thirty calories in them yeah I was I know I was wrong I was too high on leaving on ballot running back twelve or thirteen but everyone that drafted him as a top five guy top five overall we go let's get things rolling here with David Montgomery Matthew back to back games of fantasy output yesterday he had twenty two point six fantasy points and yet Daniel doctor saying get out of your lineup trade 'em away not get them out of them benching put Jae Deals strongly secret squirrel we turn the MIC over to your lonely a nation turns its lonely is to you what do you got I feel very strongly about this David Montgomery he is not okay so great two weeks ago he put a good game for him and that's going to happen sooner or later but this last week he got saved by two one yard touchdown dead correct they had Torri Hariri Cohen out there on first and goal trying to get in the end zone with him before they put David Montgomery out there the only reason he got in the end zone is because Tariq Cohen cannot get it done why on Earth would the bears put Cohen at five foot seven hundred and sixty pounds on a first and goal when they have David Montgomery unless they don't think the David Montgomery is going to be enough to be I I don't understand it I feel like you're questioning offensive Genius Matt Nagy he you know how much time have you spent watching the bear so far more than I wish that I had so then why are you surprised by this I don't understand like clearly dysfunctional offense really take this time surprises not in Washington to take this time right now where he has had two good fantasy weeks based in the box score and try and sell him as hard as you can to somebody in your league that needs a w and get a player that's on by why that is better than what hey let's let's role play here for a little second sure you know let's finally do it on hold my blindfold yeah yeah no no no no no no no that's the that's the off camera saying let's let's you and I finally play for one here in front of other people just can I check my phone during this and Eh let's pretend I'm a David Montgomery no no no let's pretend you are I'm like I'm just in your league I'm like Hey hey Daniel I need some money back Kalpa noticed you've got a couple of guys there anyone it'd be willing to trade yes David Montgomery what do you what would you want for him I I would take Marvin Jones for David Montgomery now I don't know Marvin Jones doing really well and I heard this podcast the other day where you said he was really lucky that that David Montgomery was really like yeah yeah and you listen to them podcast I do not very many people listened to the when I whenever my my my girlfriend likes it shrinks as we listen to you okay first off the biggest lions role place that you have a girlfriend we all know that's not true and it's my sister fine okay what is it that you want I mean I am I wrong long am I wrong you're not the look I mean he averaged two point nine yards per carry right fourteen for forty ultimately seventeen touches what you what what you hang your hat on here however is that here's a guy that does get the goal line work your point about they're not Mitchell trubisky doesn't run anymore Mike Davis is like Mike Davis is hanging out with a ghost that Sam darnold saw like I mean who knows where he is and so Tariq Cohen is obviously going back and so like him Sony Michelle are tied for the NFL lead in terms of most carries inside and opponents five yard line David Montgomery Lake sought against the redskins where they like five tries like for better for worse he is their goal line back he's the one that he's going to get forty one carries over the last two games here has he been efficient he is absolutely not efficient no not even close but this this is an so I guess it depends on what value you think you could get for David Montgomery I agree with you if somebody's willing to give me Marvin Jones like sure I just I think he's a I think n- Keesee Cross your fingers and hope flex play I mean I think he's I think he's a poor man Sony Michelle I think that's actually a great combination he a great hall actually there right so he's man's Melvin Gordon Right now now what he called he's like he's used a little bit more than the passing game in the Tony Michelle is his touch on if you want sorting Michelle more than David Montgomery missing something here I just think that's a better offense that's got much more opportunity to score like yeah obviously bad game for him against Baltimore last night but yeah I would absolutely rather have Sony Michelle David Montgomery summary really do all right okay season Borbon let's do it sure I'll do that okay more fantasy points from week ten on on I say Sony Michelle is say David Montgomery has more fantasy points Sony Michelle from week ten on put on board put it on the board I just I don't I just don't think David David Montgomery is particularly good I think that's I think I think this expensive completely awful and I think the offense is brutal just all I'm saying this shop the box score they don't you the other person doesn't need to know there were two touchdowns all right let's move along here to Jalen Samuels who had varied Austin fill in performance for James Connor yesterday jalen samuels had thirteen catches for what seventy four yards yesterday that's got to be one of the lowest yardage totals for a player with thirteen or more catches very jamison crowder esque uh of him seventy-three dad is Avery Harry's for just ten yards right meanwhile trey edmunds twelve for seventy three now a lot of that came in at forty five yard run but so trey edmunds was much more effective runner between the tackles yesterday Jalen team and that's just fine matthew as long as you play and PR scoring because for as long as James Connor there is out and I want everybody to go back and look at Sunday morning reporting from Adam Schefter and know that the steelers did in fact poke around on Levy on bell as a raise it to me I'm I'm not questioning shefty I'm not at all question the story is crazy to me after everything the steelers and Lamey on bell went through and the steelers who at the time were three reinfore poking around late anyway shocking to me the whole thing shocking to me but listen I you know totally trust shefty if shefty says it happened it happened and so can I get there without now yeah go ahead okay yeah the reason why I brought that up is because you would not be poking around on Levy on bail if he's not legitimate concern about James Connor missing not not just a game but potentially a significant amount of time multiple games so I think this Jalen Samuels value is not just yesterday's performance I think it could be at at least week ten and perhaps beyond I think for as long as James Connor is out Jalen Samuels is a top twelve running back top fifteen because the passing game volume Liam like this is not a fluke this is exactly what you hoped for out of Jail Samuels yesterday excellent pass Catcher who got plenty of involvement in an offense that while we we can both probably agree that duck hodges should be starting right now it's mason rough they have virtually zero vertical passing game right now save it is it is very dinkins dunk there and by the way look at their upcoming schedule so Ram's this week at home games in Pittsburgh so ram's this week than at Cleveland at Cincinnati Cleveland Cleveland again that's a real nice stretch of run defenses right and then by the way you think about the rams specifically that defensive front like if you're Mason Rudolph an Arrow darnold the era donald is coming down you what are you doing you're dumping off to Jalen Samuels I listen I'm there now Daniel or the question was posed should you should you be selling Jalen Samuel the person who rosters James Connor maybe it has to be a really good player in return and I'm not sure that the person who has James Connor right now is in a position where they can afford to trade another really good running back because because already down one with connor now yet jalen samuels you'd be a one for one trade but like it would have to be somebody that you believe has like top twentyish value we tweak but this is why we talk about you know we talked about Jalen Samuels pickup like two weeks ago when we were like hey he's starting to practice and he'll come back at some point forward thinking we're thinking we we've been talking about this for a while but the thing is you know with with Benny Snell now banged up and he's GonNa he's GonNa miss a few weeks it is Jalen Samuelson Trey Edmunds I think trae admit should make your your waiver everywhere but like what was the passing game almost none zero he didn't get done none whatsoever so he has eleven carries for twenty seven yards the other forty five so I just not quite there yet by the way but I think the bigger point or one of the other takeaway points here is that and I know which really hard to do this right now with sixteen for week ten but like look around if you have a flexible bench spot if Alexander Madison is sitting there floating joining if twenty sitting there floating if an elite handcuff is sitting there floating right now and you can afford to add that player we've been talking about the I am pro handcuff uncuffed there are people that are not I don't care even if you don't have those like I don't care if you have delvin Cook I don't care if Alexander Madison needs to one hundred percent hundred percent because we both agree oh grab him and talk the subway opposite Alvin Cook he's a top five or top eight running back Tony Dollar same thing Tony Power we saw what like Latavius Murray did Alvin Kamara went out there are there are these guys where you know so if something were to happen same game like I'll mention like like if I had Marlin Mac I would want Jordan Wilkins given how heavy the colts offense is last thing for me on the steelers game I'm real quickly which is signs of lies from Vance McDonald five hundred thirty seven targets again with that short passing attack that they have in Pittsburgh and Vance McDonald finally back healthy looking like Vance McDonald again he's been dropped in a lot of leagues and just given the State of the tight end position I do think Vance McDonald it's sort of interesting Davante Adams made his return yesterday for the packers therefore games missed now the offense really really struggled yesterday obviously forgettable Sunday for them out there in Los Angeles Davante Adams got eleven targets in his return going forward matthew is every other packers wide receiver just drivable this point Marquez Valdez gambling drama alson Allen Lazard all those guys and you say goodbye hide them they already were they shouldn't have been rostered in the first place I mean like how how many weeks of like I don't know do we need to go through like the pass ask catchers on the packers that you want Davante Adams yes Aaron Jones Jamal Williams right Jimmy Graham I suppose hose of your super desperate to tighten I'm not Jimmy Graham Fan these days why would you want him no more than thirty receiving yards and six nine games this season. ESPN with more than forecast he's been brutal title yeah he's gotten a couple touchdowns I'm but whatever I mean tight end is just such a wasteland stink worse but I said like the only packers pass catchers the only players there's that are involved in the packers passing game not named Aaron Rodgers that I feel comfortable starting in any given week Davante Adams Aaron Jones Williams right and by the way to Williams saved late as she was awesome early but Jamal Williams got a great garbage time Dr under his belt late they were down twenty six to three Yup kept him on the field they hurried up they picked up the tempo he ended up catching the touchdown I love that from Jamal Williams a guy that is such an effective part of their passing game when they are playing from behind hi and nothing expect them to be vulnerable often but we saw yesterday there can be games where the packers can be tested just a name on a put on people's radars if you're in a very deep League Dynasty League Keeper League they activated the packers over the weekend activated or last week there were tight end Jay Sternberg who is awesome like just I'm just telling you guys somebody somebody who watches a lot of Texas ain't I'm football because that's where I grew up in so I don't watch a ton of college football during the season but J. Burgers awesome and I don't know if he makes an impact at all this year here but at some point in nfl he will I hope so they're pick as you just mentioned really really intriguing player given a size and his hair very nice it's been an absolutely lutely miserable stretch for OPEC and Keenan Allen who were averaging respectively twelve points per game for Odell eight point four for Kim now two questions are they even must start anymore that's question one it's a great question and the fact act I mean pausing to answer tells you can leave what you what you need to know like if you looked at their stats if all you did was if you took away the name and just said wide receiver a a wide receiver being blind resume stuff right you blind resumes stuff you're no Oto Beckham Junior's pro I think Keenan Allen over the last five weeks I think as wide receiver somewhere in the wide receiver fifty something yeah I all like last six games he's averaging eight point four fantasy points per game over six game stretch it's not like this is just two weeks whereas I keep Berlin amount they're down the last six games Odell oh by the way last year eight points eight point four fantasy points that's what Keenan Allen is average of the last six canales average eight point four fantasy points per game over the last six games that would've been wide receiver seventy last year on a points per game wide receiver seventy I by Keith won't do this Odell Beckham Junior entered the league as somewhat unknown but when you get drafted twelfth or thirteenth overall the expectations take not the same as they were for other wide receivers in that class including Sammy Watkins who went fourth overall the buffalo bills in which they traded up from eight to four right made a big move together right yeah Sammy Watkins was the pros Li prodigious wide receiver talented we thought was going to make his mark on the League Oto Beckham Junior is one of the most was was one of the most enjoyable players to watch over his five seasons with the New York giants even with the ups and downs the injuries the highs and lows the frustration sometimes petty drama he was fun though sure he was so fun I enjoyed it got legitimate like worth the price of admission enjoyment out of Odell Beckham junior you bet of all the things the browns have done wrong this year and we don't have enough time in this podcast list all of them but some are this team has found a way to make a player of Odell Beckham Junior's caliber caliber in completely on enjoyable to watch it's not Odell fault not his fault at all it's them and if I want to if somebody from the browns wants to retort well you know he's getting so much attention he's drawing his attention you know what it doesn't seem to helping the offense elsewhere it's not like it's one thing of Odell was getting attention all over the place Jason and everybody else was leading it up they stink they're terrible right now I miss I tweeted I Miss Odell Beckham Junior and miss the player that was every young fans favourite player favourite wide receiver the Top Jersey Seller and I get it he's still all those things still a top jersey seller what happened owed how what have you done with Odell Beckham Become Junior Cleveland why have you done this what in your game plan mindset week-to-week makes you think that what you have done through the first eight games is anywhere close to enough shame on you you seriously you have totally neutralized the excitement of one of the players that truly over the past I don't know how many players the list might be one handsworth it's worth but I've enjoyed watching more than Odell Beckham Junior for the last ten years thank you for nothing Cleveland it's it's unbelievably disappointing that that my biggest preseason miss and I think it's not close and I had a few but the biggest one was being sort of all in on the Browns I was all in on Odell back junior it was all in on Baker Mayfield I was all in on both guys the Chubb is the Nick Love has worked out but Baker in Odell Beckham junior just as bad 'cause as you can make like I was all in on them and I wasn't the only one a lot of people obviously had them very high but like I was all in on them and couldn't have been more wrong like it's unbelievable and and you know I think you have to on some level you know I I blame Freddie Kitchens. I blame that offense coaching staff at its two they lost a Brandon Allen sued five straight games to quarterback speaking their NFL debut five they're starting debut brandon Allen Kirk cousins and eighty although go back in two thousand and Twelve Ryan Mallett in twenty fourteen and Carson Wentz in two thousand sixteen five straight times guys making his first ever NFL start lose lose lose lose lose and lose anyways to buy the Redskins have played them in here's Haskins for this you know what Matthew I'll say this as much as it hurts I'm still starting both of these players and I if a bike upside is there you have to be in a really swell spot to not be starring both of those guys Beckham thirty nine yard catch late which sort of helped salvage but ultimately winds up with five for eighty seven which is fine it's not great but you know he's like there's actually been more signs of life from Beckham in there has been from Keenan Allen recently gently their upcoming schedule The browns home to buffalo home to Pittsburgh home to Miami so three straight home games may be maybe they get it right now now he's maybe but I will say I you know they're probably not gonNA make a change but midseason but feels like something's got to change I will say last this thing is we'll Brinson arbitral friend will Brinson does a great job is did you see that tweet so he followed onto Iraq was hilarious that is hilarious so he he he tweeted this fall onto her we'll Brinson really fun and what he did is basically the tweet is you know what eighteen months is a Cleveland Brown we'll duty when the first picture is Baker Mayfield on a day like G. Q.. Baker Mayfield Jake Jake really cleanly shave has got a cool like looks like a million Levi all right yeah looks great and then the second picture is his post game press conference yesterday where he was like in sort of raggedy clothes and he's got a weird mustache what he looked click I thought it looked like one of the robbers from home alone the only person that thought that no that was a good good to you someone else say I want to say it was our friend Sigmund Bloom somebody else like tweeted that photo and said what is this somebody asked like what does this person do for a living in someone I think Sigmund Bloom tweeted this guy is a a shower curtain ring salesman sort of looked like John Candy in planes trains and automobile call too but yeah I mean like it's unbelievable and by the way my the only one that saw this like I feel like I saw pictures of Baker Mayfield on the bench in the game and he had a Fu Manchu and then after the game and yeah they save twice yesterday correct he shaved twice yesterday yesterday what's going on like Baker Shave twice yesterday I mean can I didn't question can I just took it back to football is there any chance that you is there any chance that you're buying low on either of these two players do you think that they're greener days ahead or the offense is so bad that even for the fantasy playoffs you're like I don't want to put this much stock into I'm always buying low on players yeah I'm almost always now listen it depends on so buying Lo- is obviously a matter of like who you would be trading to acquire ores relative but yeah I'd say speaking generally I would buy low so I'm like somebody that's kind of hot right now that is played well of late that you might be able to legitimate cajones Marvin Johnson said big games in two of the last three. Yeah Wow we're really I would would you like if somebody said like I'll give you Keenan Allen for Marvin Jones you they probably did Keenan yeah me too here I will say this about Keenan Allen at Oakland next week then Yep Yep and then and then there's a game I'm this weeks at Oakland this week it's the secondary that can be exploited Yup then Kansas City in Mexico City so that'll be a fun game against the chiefs then there's a bye week the right Denver Yep Okay and what I thought was encouraging about the chargers the offensive line is played better right back and offensive line is played better the last two weeks. Melvin Gordon finally looked at me like Melvin Gordon yesterday the wasn't a great Keenan Allen game and maybe some of the volume has been detracted because of Hunter Henry and his emergence urgency or his return I should say to the middle of field has taken a little bit but Keenan Allen is to talented yeah I feel the same way I know we're sort of running yourselves circle let's just quickly go through a few other players there's Matthew and I'm going to mention performance and if there's legitimate cause for concern that you think about it tell me otherwise I'm just going to list them but we can just move on Savan days one catcher four yards one carry for twelve yards no brutal but I think it was just one of those games has been good against perimeter receivers this year Allen Robinson one for six against a bad eagles and on the loveless to come on a rob Again I think that was a sort of it's a little bit of concern because if you're risky but ultimately absolutely I WanNa see I wanna be I want him to be bad for another game before I panic. Dj Shark forecast for catches thirty two yards in London they gonNA buy next week Yep it's not panicking yet about either I will say I'm a little concerned that there is a bit of a field yates curse field yates and his hairy legs on instagram shaving shaming I'm just saying like I feel like they're nine Gardner Menchu and shark known as talk about how asking largely avs is too much about the hair I have very very round supple cavs no one talks about that that's a drop from someone pull that I have very round supple cab yeah LE- Martin if you're listening like like we need that game but yes I just all I know is before feel dresses Gardner men she with his his creepy hairy legs Gardner Gardner minhsiu Dj Shark and the jags offense is rolling along was Hamad then field dresses admits you know displays his unnaturally hairy legs the world world and then they completely bomb they just you display destroying truly not Harry hey every day don't hate me but but with with my with my balding head out there Gartner Menchu and DJ chocolate performed it wasn't an airline you're lying I'm just saying keep it rolling your Darren Waller to visit last question and just last question that we move on true or false Chepe and sleeps in like long pajamas to cover her legs that there's no false I'm I'm not sure I think I know what I'm getting for Christmas is she probably does want to do to hurt your Leonides onesies I guess I'm sort of onesies or something like that just because you know when you're sleeping ping together when you're in the same bed like legs roll on each other and that kind of thing and just like you know keeping can't get good night's savings like when did we dog all right that was just feel rushed against me I shouldn't Apollo I feel I apologize about Lesok you dare waller to for fifty two yesterday I'm a little nervous really second bad game in row for down wall and what's concerning here is the only got two targets and a game in which Derek Carr played well in a game in which the raiders were throwing and they put put up thirty one points in this game Darren Waller got two targets he decided Eric now he's not playing well like when I'm not saying that he's not playing well listen listen there's a different teams are defying him as the threat they need like if found a run for US Marcel Eightman beats us we'll take our chances of Zeta Jones owns our foster monroe but no we're making sure we know that waller is a baller we're going to we're going to try to take him out of this game like like well there's the Beyeler still I'm a little nervous like he thought he was too for fifty two but onto targets foster moreau gets in the end zone once again vultures him I look you're still starting Dan Waller caller but am I concerned I am a little bit eyebrow raised a little bit here a little bit I do too bad games in a row but I really like that you can do about it like I'm still starting him I am certainly really not mean you can't obviously not dropping him like yeah I I'm less trade I mean you could you could still train them while he's trying to consider to be like he was he was the number you thinking about this match with the war room league I haven't been like I'm sixteen eleven so we're in the world together we talk about Durham all trade after this all right you start looking around I we're gonNA take a quick break and talk about the chiefs on the other side but I a clip from our friends well maybe friends over at the fancy show Daniel Frontiers that's a good point oh the COSC- breaking news from my wife because I don't want to like I refuse to the Internet shamed and then pod cash shamed in the same span of like three days k. lovely the incomparable she's she she is eh she's a great woman and she has a great wife to you go ahead she texted during the day because she is watching the show live of course on the ESPN APP to watch tab or other methods and and she texted me to say psa your legs aren't that Harry Moreover you have huge cavs right I love them and I don't want to wear long pants to bed we're we're GONNA get some long pants and we'll just see what happens we'll see if they get used or not pressure no pressure I'm just gonNa give her some like some comfy getters and designer jeans great salt knows yeah fi sweats or something like twenty years something like we'll find something cute we'll find something Kim sure me undies has some sort of like lounge panthers they do something something cute and comfy for her so she doesn't have to lie to her husband listen she's doing what a good wife would do that she's very supportive like she's supportive why in life and there are settlers I understand shaping settled for me hundred percent I got lucky I wonder did you one of the reasons we get along as you and I are both married to settlers colors all right so let's let's topics here so the chiefs running backs Ziprecruiter I right nope not yet not yet the chiefs yesterday had an interesting shaft in terms of the runningback so Damian Williams had eleven carries hundred twenty yards and a touchdown plus two catches for three hours now ninety one of those yards or excuse me eighty none of those yards came on one long Kerry just a breakthrough run Shawn McCoy three carries for nine yards with one catch for zero yards matthew and we asked this question going into last week hey do we think that the chiefs would just go back to the Shawn McCoy after the fumble the week before and we we didn't know who nurture the only people that would know be Andy Andy region look I I mean I'll I'll I actually here's your shopping I feel it happens do question because you know what because here's the thing because like when I'm I'm happy better good call like when I made good like we had really good calls and you know and the chiefs in like you know in whatever I've had a lot of calls and so but if I'm going to pat myself on the back when I mentioned like my bold call was Jordan Howard eight yards and touchdown against the bears and he gets eighty yards and touchdown if I'm GonNa Pat Myself on the back and give myself credit for good calls I gotTa Take It on the Chin for bad calls I got a cop to that and so anyway that's my I see it differently but that's just whatever move on here and just say that like no there was uncertainty based on the match with the Vikings the uncertainty we'd seen in the backfield Kelly their ineffectiveness it made complete sense to fade the entire chiefs backfield and that the thought process was that that if you had to start one I would we understand why you would start mccoy over Williams just because he had been getting more work recently prior to the fumble and I feel like I feel like one of the reasons why there was kind of this running back by committee is because android was waiting like the rest of the fantasy world for somebody to step up like somebody show me something neither running back and that includes Daryl Williams so none of the three had stepped up in a significant way right and also but now Damian Damian Williams with a ninety one yard run overall is very effective twelve for one twenty five he catches a few balls you know as well as opposed to Shawn Mccoy three for nine look I feel like how do you not go back to Damien Williams after the formats over the last five quarters and obviously this includes you know post fumble bowl of McCoy last week over the last five quarters Damian Williams played fifty-seven snaps Shawn McCoy has played six so all of that I agree with everything you've said however here's here's what I think this one ends up as okay I think this is one of those backfield's that goes where the wind blows it we tweak right now that right now is Damien Williams but you know what happens if Damian Williams struggles or daime willing fumbles is hey sean mcauley you're back in right coaches care not about our fantasy teams right right I mean they don't and they don't they don't do anything so right now right now I feel confident Damian Williams it's November rankings come out tomorrow you'll have Damian Williams significantly higher than the Sean McCormack yes same and it is worth noting that before the ninety one yard touchdown run the Damian Williams had an eight to three carrie edge over McCoy so like it's not like the guy had one big Ron and they're like oh let's keep feeding him like he was almost he's played six naps over the past five quarter yeah it was just saying yeah so they play at Tennessee next week there's a chance that Patrick mahomes plays in this game he seems like he was sort of a game time decision yeah there's there's a chance yeah for sure so and obviously that would raise up the entire value of all chiefs pass catchers that includes Damian Williams I feel like in addition to getting more clarity in the chiefs running back situation we definitely got clarity on the bills running back situation which one me aboard but thank you I thought I had denied the victory over Franco Oh did not I miss remember supported Frank Gore Devon singled Terry twenty carries for ninety five yards and a touchdown with three catches for forty five yards twenty-three fantasy points Frank Gore tried his best is to not score a touchdown on three straight carries I mean from the one yard line eleven carries for fifteen yards just one point five points here over the past two games matthew it's a decided ed in terms of snaps played yardage not necessarily carries but yardage plus catches this one has netted out matthew where I think we expected it would after Shawn McCoy Quoi was cut by the bills right before the Begin Devon thing that area they clear cut workhorse in this backfield he is he's got such big playability and we talked about this seven single on the loveless coming into the week as well and so single terry who has more explosiveness and by the way if you watch this game towards the end of the game when they were trying to salted away when they had delete it was all devon single tear and he gets into the end zone towards the end of the game last two games he's played sixty six percent of the offensive snaps and their upcoming schedule field at add Cleveland at Miami home to Denver at Dallas Dallas and Denver aren't great matches but they're not ones that totally scare you and certainly Cleveland Miami or two teams that you can run and significantly well so like looks really good here for Devon Single Terry and my guess is he's not one hundred percent rostered he's probably close to eighty or something like that is way too you know go to eligible fuzzy was hurt go take a look yeah it's just it's it's worth noting there but yeah shockingly sixty six point five percent what are we doing when people come on serious so anyway if Devon Single Terry's available in your league for some reason he is the number one clear cut pickup there's no question about that as well and I would be okay dropping Frank Gore yeah I neither ostrich bottom okay with I wouldn't do it just like you know just because just to be mean to France or respect if you need the Ross responded that there are other players especially with sixteen hundred by they carry more value now and going forward then frank core question by the way on the buccaneers backfield all right do we get some clarity there has there I've been a a changing of the guard because Ronald June's eighteen carries for sixty seven yards and a touchdown to catches for fifteen yards starts Ronald Jones and and I'll tell you I'll tell you exactly something you're playing against Yeah Jeff Wheatley and in our War Room League Jeff we lose the coordinating producer fantasy football now yeah great fantasy player but come on weet wheat why are you starting Ronald Jones. Well we've been Ronald who were the other options and did this aside the matchup no he just crushed me like a great blake everyone he had his McCaffrey Africa he had McCaffrey so he has he has McCaffrey he had element but he got sixteen points out of Ronald Jones and like whatever he has element is a good team and Stefan addicts thanks one for four like what are you doing to me Stefan dig so yeah digs between digs and Ronald Jones that was enough for not put him over the edge I almost survived league j-league but I almost arrive Christian McCaffrey but it was just too much anyway but the fact is I was like I I wasn't worried when I was looking at Weekday Beats Lineup you're always worried about McCaffrey and he has element there were a couple of guys I was worried about I wasn't worried about Ronald Jones and I should have been yesterday as well eighteen sixty seven and a touchdown he caught two passes fifteen yards sixteen point two fantasy points without looking at it my guess would be that's his best fantasy day of the season I it's it's either as best or as a second best it's definitely up there and but we see though like I think we have seen a clear again a changing of the guard here which I think makes Ronald Jones a player player that should be added he is available in good healthy percentage of leaks he makes the waiver column as well and he should again second round pick last year this is how this thing should have netted out he has a a better talent is and Peyton barber it's no surprise that Ronald Jones is being more productive is more productive right now than Barbara Ann does Bruce Arians is getting a getting understanding that right his touch of the last three games four to twelve to twenty this past week against the seahawks the last time thirsty kyle notes the last

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"Possibly the definitely the most expert panel in the history the it's no hearings over the cruise scandal last month uh Texas number one in the country ever GonNa ride this things that we can't the Texans Tony Gardner Flint men shoot the segregated guessing what are we looking at here in large eddies George History it's an honor to be joined by Sam Darnold sleep I guess we're going to do this right almost incomprehensible I'm thinking about the the cavs Leicester City the eagles the capital art destructible they've been unkillable maybe as resilient you're down to their last eight out last night that's where we're GonNa pick it off I gotta believe the Astros blew it right what he had a chance to do something I didn't go to Garrett Cole The guy who actually is the best pitcher in my opinion on the blowing it or was not going to call the blowing I think seems like billy ray could curse okay very good. I'm with my little buddy blow last night or the nets winning I want to say I'm happy Tony when you win the title you get the crown now ain't no crown royal series I mean the Astros absolutely blew it Tony Oh that final three innings get you those final nine outs the choice there is obvious dry right and you know all about body parts so I go to you for for the future of body Parts Theories Logan Roy did that guy worked for me I'd like can we get Washington senators game in nineteen twenty four and I remember that being a really good series the nationals ended up being a better team that actually had a better run beat them this is all about the senators I don't want to hear for that Guy Calvin now went through the whole list their twelve games under five hundred nearly a third into the season all the elimination charge. 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Sam Donaldson to Jim Acosta: 'Keep it up'; Abrams: CNN has strong case for lawsuit; Sam Donaldson on how the Trump era will end; Ryan says some of Trump's attacks are racial; Police investigating protest at Carlson's home; Fox News executives call for 'co

Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter

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Sam Donaldson to Jim Acosta: 'Keep it up'; Abrams: CNN has strong case for lawsuit; Sam Donaldson on how the Trump era will end; Ryan says some of Trump's attacks are racial; Police investigating protest at Carlson's home; Fox News executives call for 'co

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Now all of us can help make it better this hour Democrats making huge gains on election day for the election. Still isn't over yet every day the passengers alter better for the dams did the press underplay the Blue Wave. We'll talk about that plus a major scandal in the news world, the Houston chronical forced to attract multiple stories from reporter who is believed have been making up sources, whether it be chronicle do about it. We'll talk to the papers top editor, plus my interview with Tucker Carlson's business partner about that. Really disturbing situation that Tucker is home the other night, this antifa protest got out of hand. And police are now investigating. Lots to get to but first President Trump's attempts to distract from various negative stories in the news, not the least of which were the result of the midterms. And the GOP is losses in the house. What did you do the next day? He fired his attorney general, and he kicked Jim Acosta out of the White House. I'm sure you've heard by now that on Wednesday night CNN's chief White House correspondent tried to show up for his eight PM live shot, and he was told he wasn't allowed into the White House property. His secret service hard pass had been revoked it's been suspended. That's the word from the White House suspended until further notice. But look this is not about Jim Acosta. This is about the White House. Trying to control news coverage by blacklisting certain reporters. Ultimately, it's about freedom of the press. The question now is who's credentials could be revoked next. As far as I'm concerned. I haven't made that decision, but it could be others. Also, so look C N N's in the thick of this story and Trump is insulting Kosta insulting Abby Phillips on Friday, insulting analysts April. Ryan this week CNN is on record here saying that Trump's attacks against the media are disturbingly un-american. That's the official word from CNN. But I want to try to approach this as dispassionately as we can after all right now, it's about CNN NBC or the New York Times or other outlets could be next. So I want to ask if there's a legal case here could see an end up suing. Notre get a conscious press pass reinstated. It will the White House take away other press passes, and what's going to happen. Next year. There's a lot to talk about. But let me start with the one the only Sam Donaldson. Of course, you know, see from his days at ABC shouting questions. Sometimes at the White House say I'm thanks for joining me. Glad to be here, ruin your view, first and foremost of what the White House did this week to punish Jim Acosta. Well, the president to order to lift his route book revoke his credentials is not only wrong and unfair. It's dangerous for the press as a whole. We also would happen at the news conference. There's a group of people moving through Mexico toward our border described by people on the scene observers who are neutral has made up of men women and children seeking asylum from persecution and from hardship. Well, the president is characterized him as a caravan composed of many terrorists want to invade the United States. He said thousands of troops to the border with orders to repel them by force if necessary so it costs to ask him why he called it a caravan at the news conference, the president replied, that's my opinion. And accustomed tried to press him on what basis but evidence he used to form that opinion, and instead of entering President Trump lashed out with a vicious personal attack on accuster, and then ordered his press credentials revoked now if that order isn't reverse for the courts what report. What news organization would risk the retaliation of the White House by asking questions or publishing stories that the president doesn't like the courts must reverse that order, and I'm sure they will Sam I know that you've been in touch with Jim over the years. I think he looks up to you in some ways as a model of a White House. Correspondent have you spoken this week? No. We haven't spoken, but I emailed him in and said keep it up. Don't worry about the vicious attacks on you by anybody and the threats and all of this. You're performing in the best best appearance of reporter. You're doing your job properly. And it's a badge of merit. You know, the White House says this was revoked because he plays his hands on a White House intern. The video shows that it cost did not mistreat the intern. But that's the White House spin about this story. That's the excuse to revolt the credential. Do you think the White House is going to go with other excuses to revoke other credentials, and this is going to become a deepening crisis? We're live better cry because the first amendment of the constitution forbids never Gatien to the press right to freedom. And the president seemed to understand that the amendment doesn't say unless the president doesn't like it. Then of course, he has the right to vote, and what President Trump has done having no law as the amendment forbids to fall back on he's done it through the back door if he refuses to allow reporter to report if he refuses to allow a organization like CNN to select its own reporter, but he can select the reporter, then what is freedom of the press. The president does not understand a lot of things about our constitution. But I expect and I believe the courts will instruct him Sam stay with me. They can I want to open this up to a couple of other guests, but first let me tell the viewers at home that the latest on what's going on. We can show you the video I think from Wednesday night when a cost arrived at the White House when he was told his secret service, parental was being taken away got out. Iphone and recorded it. So that there was a record of what happened that was on Wednesday night. Now here we are Sunday morning, and he remains on the blacklist. Yes, Jim is reporting in Paris. Yes. He's still getting scoops. You don't have to be at the White House physically in order to get scoops about the White House. But Jim remains on the blacklist, which means he's not able to attend official White House events. He's not able to be in a position to ask questions of the Trump administration all of CNN's other reporters and producers they still have access, but it costs has been frozen out. So let me bring this open to to other guests that are here with me. Frank sesno, a former CNN DC bureau chief now, the director of the school of media and public affairs of the George Washington University. And also here with me famed first amendment lawyer Floyd Abrams food, I want to ask you about the legal consequences in a moment. But Frank thoroughly Trump supporters who look at CASA they look at his grandstanding. They say is a show boat. They say he's allowed mouth they say he should have his press pass revoked what are you? What's your response to that? Absolutely. Not. They're absolutely wrong. I mean. Sam donaldson. I was saying was at the White House. He was all those things, and he didn't have is all due respect. He didn't have his press pass revoke and what I would say to Trump supporters, and what I would say to anyone who even for a moment suggests this imagine. Now, it's some years from now, and there's a very liberal president, and the very liberal president doesn't like being berated by the correspondent from Fox News or from any other conservative media and the liberal president says debt that person out of here because those questions are inconvenient and disrespectful. That's not how this works presidents of the United States referred to the White House as the people's house. The why the press corps as rowdy an imperfect. As it is is a Representative of the people and those voices represent the people and anybody who runs for president United States should know that and should welcome that as unpleasant and imperfect as it all is. But a lot of conservative commentators say cost of crosses the line by expressing his home point of view or by trying to challenge the president in approach. Preate ways. Do you think that's a fair? Critique at all, I think it's a critique if you wanna critique different styles of coverage fair enough. It's not a critique to determine who should have a pass or not. That's not how it's been done. It's not how it will be done. You know, Jim in the exchange. Other day said made up made a flat out statement. He said this is not an invasion at the end of the conversation and the questions about the caravan. There are many reporters say your job is actually not to make declarative statement. Your job is to ask questions of the president to me. And I think to anybody who's thoughtful about this, that's stylistics. And where do you draw the line on that? And I'm sure you're going to be talking about this with Floyd San made references there are procedures processes for revoking someone's secret service pass, and it is not the whim or the idea or the opinion of the president. I was speaking to someone who's knowledgeable about this just yesterday who basically said I want a cost of gone, right? The fact that the president of the United States wants a cost gone is not enough, and it's not grounded on anything. And it does not recognize process. For what would be a very serious move to withdraw someone's press pass. So with all that in mind Floyd does CNN have grounds to sue over this? I think it's a really strong lawsuit. I mean, there was a case in Washington Robert Cheryl back in the late nineteen seventies. Where his pass was revoked. He went to court and the court of appeals for the district of Columbia said before that happens, you have to I have noticed you have to have a chance to respond, and you have to have a written opinion by the White House as to what it's doing. And why so the courts can examine it we've had none of those things here. So you think CNN does have a case. But here's a slightly different question should CNN sue because that would be quite an escalation. Put it this way. I can understand CNN being reluctant to sue. Because the president keeps saying CNN is the enemy of me and seeing that might have some reluctance to have a lawsuit titled CNN versus Donald Trump. That said, yes, I think they should sue. And if it's not about a cost this is going to happen again. I mean, I think that's my Frank setting forth the dangers as an introductory web saying it's likely to happen again. So whether it CNN suing or the next company showing someone's going to have to bring a lawsuit and whoever does is gonna win on less. There's some sort of reason I mean, if if the the White House position is he choked her touch this woman. That's a very good reason, it seems to be untrue. But, but that's the sort of reason that can be sustained in the courts Sam. Back to you in a second. But Frank reminded us about a previous lawsuit that CNN was involved in with the White House CNN had to sue its way into the White House press pool right once upon a time when CNN was a startup cable operation, the White House didn't want to recognize it Sam remembers this because we were there together. Oh, actually, it was just before I went there and CNN sued its way into the so-called press pool that small group of people who are on Air Force One travelling with the president or in the Oval Office where there is a single Representative from each, you know, print magazines at the time broadcast at the time and CNN was excluded from that. So it resorted to the courts, and the court said, you are a legitimate news organization. You have a legitimate right in CNN may have to face the reality that it's going to have to do this again. But CNN may not be alone. You know, you heard the president at state said, yeah, I may I may kick some other people out of here. White House Correspondents Association is going to be challenged to see whether it joins that lawsuit and every other news organization, including Fox News, by the way, which has been on the news side rather supportive of this is going to see where it is. President is in an untenable position here and unfortunately for him when as we've heard so many other times, so many other things there are so many other things to be talking about he chooses to focus on this and bring this, you know, firestorm down upon himself. Well, that's my last question. Sam back to you on that on one level doesn't the president want this fight. He wants if media fight especially in the wake of his losses in the midterms. I think it was notable CNN did not cover. This a lot on TV this week. We didn't try to play into it. And try to take the bait. But we do it to be sensitive to this issue of distraction. Don't we? We'll be doing you know, I hope I'm not mistaken. But it's my understanding that CNN and accuster hev suit that there will be a court hearing on Tuesday on this very discussing. I not that. I know I knew of it. You may be out of I've been told that because they've been as I've been asked to give an F A, David, which I prepared just to be submitted to the court of you know, Harry Truman headed, right? He added vice for all sorts of public officials. And that is when they heard things that didn't like uncomfortable questions that pesky press corps and all of that remember this. He said if you can't stand the heat get out of the kitchen. It's sometimes it's that simple. Isn't it for any president for any politician? The president the president seems to believe that if he wants to do something it should be done constitution aside, even Congress's I'd certainly other than his base, the American people aside, and it doesn't work that way. And he's not going to get away with it Sam. How does this going to end? How do you see this period in history ending? I think it ends with the change in. I hope the president's attitude I believe in forgiveness and redemption of sin, but is good to change because he and people who enabled him to do what he's trying to do. It has done so far not going to be to prevail his small base. And I think they're minority who believe if the Nazis in the protesters are in both sides. There are good people in both sides. His small base is not going to run this country. They don't know and they never will Sam thanks for being here Floyd. Thank you to you as well. Great to see you Frank stick around for a quick break here. And then bring in one of the reporters that Trump caught out by name this week, April. Ryan, I've CNN in American urban radio networks, we're gonna talk about why the president continues to insult the intelligence of black female reporters APRIL's coming up. Right after this. Tired of spending hundreds of dollars for prescription glasses. 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He is prone to questioning the intelligence of women and African Americans we saw that all week long one recent exchange was at Wednesday's post midterms press conference between the president and reporter me she oust cinder illustrates just how nasty the interactions have been. On the campaign trail, you called yourself, nationalist, some people saw that as in bowling, white, nationalist. Now, people are also saying such a racist. There's some people that say that now the Republican party is seen as supporting white nationalist rhetoric. What do you make of that? I don't believe that's such a racist question. It was a question about racism. It wasn't a racist question. It was a question about racists. Let's talk about this with one of the other reporters that the president targeted. That's april. Ryan, she's a CNN analyst, of course, and the White House correspondent in Washington bureau chief for American urban radio networks, April I don't want to play the sound. But the president called you a very nasty loser. This week. Do you think you would just having a bad day or there's a racial component to this? It's personal the president made a personal attack. And you know, there's not a coincidence that three African American women within a span of two or three days were singled out and targeted so harshly. You know, the president has gone after other reporters, that's true. And he's got after others. But when it comes to black women, it's very personal. I mean, I think back about how he went after college woman Frederica Wilson when Sarge David Johnson died along with other soldiers valiant, soldiers and Niger. I think about how he continues to go after congresswoman Maxine Waters, saying low IQ and other things and then the words that he used about me to to place the target on your head by saying her question was racist. No it wasn't. It was a legitimate question. And. To say that Abby Phillip asked stupid question. Trying to simply say she was stupid, which he's not it's very personally goes on personal attacks. And yes, I do believe black women. I will say it's racial. I will say that let me take a look at that exchange with Abby we wanted to view it from different angles. You can see both Abby and the president. Here's how it went down. It's up to him. What a stupid question that is what a stupid question, but I watch you a lot you ask a lot of stupid quite. Just a very uncomfortable situation for any reporter when when you watch that happen and links. Yeah. Here. Is that newsroom? Diversity is a problem across the US and even in the White House. Press corps. There are not enough female correspondent, especially not enough female, an African American or Hispanic correspondence as a result. When the president really seems to focus his ire on on people. Like, you it really stands out. And I think there's no more denying. This is a problem. He has. Yeah. It's a problem. And I want to go back to a tweet that I received yesterday from former White House press secretary, Mike McCurry, he was there. He was my first press secretary I've ever covered under Bill Clinton on nineteen Ninety-seven. And he said, you know, I tangled with April Ryan quite a bit. But one thing I did learn from her questions is more about issues of race, and poverty and those questions when we ask questions, it's real it's legitimate. It's about people it's not about us. And this president has made it about us. Instead of about the American people the issues that are on the table for all America. And you know, it's interesting listening. We've remembering back with the president said about me Friday. Well, I'm gonna say this. I'm a winner because you know, at that first press conference, the president had the eastern of the White House. He thought I was so much of a winner and had enough gravitas to be able to pull together meeting between him and the Congressional Black caucus. When is stacked Clinton he asked to do it. Yeah. Yeah. He sure did. And it's on tape, and it wasn't a doctor tape. And I was so much of a winner that this ministration pulled me in for meeting with first son-in-law Jared Kushner on issues of prison reform and put me on a phone call with him because of my winning, okay? Because I have that kind of gravitas and understand what's going on in the black community. So and I could go on and on. And I wrote a book about this undefined. You know, I'm not, you know, I wrote a book about the the reason why this administration comes after me, you know, there I'm not perceived to be their base. And they wanna use me as an example. But this has gotten personal for no reason, and whatever the disdain they have about me or the issues are asked. It's on them. It's not this is about America. Are you concerned? They may try to suspend your press pass next because when Trump raised the prospect of suspending other credentials, he brought you up out of the blue. But no good. Season at all out of the blue out of the blue with no reason at all. I was on the presence minded, I wasn't even there. It's interesting. They may try what why would they try to suspend my press pass? I understand that they've been angry with me more. So since I asked the question in January about Mr President are you a racist? And there was a reason for that. Because of the the alleged s whole comments that he was making and then after Charlottesville and everything else it didn't just come out of the air. So they have been angry with me about that since then. And then this last press conference the day after the midterm election. There were issues in videos and comments reports about voter regularities in various states, and I threw the question out in that pregnant pause moment when what has finished answering a question and going to another reporter, I said, Mr President what about voter suppression, and he was spotted and therefore I stood up out of respect thinking he was going to do an interchange with me. And then he tells me sees what is it tells me the sit down vehemently with the venom of disdain with with disdain towards me. And I sat down. But then he started saying, oh, you know. Yeah. I voted suppression for you, though, CNN polls. And then I stood backups said, No, MR president. I'm talking. This was all off Mike, I'm in my reporter colleagues heard me I'm talking about voter suppression in Florida voter suppression in Georgia, North Dakota, and Texas and other states, and he proceeded sit down sit down, and that was a legitimate question. Thankfully, another reporter from m B NPR Aisha wash. Go another African American followed up, and he was very flipped with her about voter suppression. As he's claiming voter fraud is happening, and there are more cases of voter suppression than voter fraud, again, we'll issues, and if they want to if they want us to spend my pass over that it it just it. It's it's not. It's not logical. It's not logical. It is now. Thank you so much. It's beyond. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you agree with you. I agree with you. Thank you so much. I'm up against the break. But I want to show everybody something from two years ago that I I think is really important in this conversation. We're talking about the president revoking one reporters press pass and threatening others well in June of two thousand sixteen the now president promised me he would not do that. This was on a phone. Call phone interview way, high with the president back then he was a boycott. He was not allowing certain reporters from certain news outlets to go to his rallies. He wasn't at the Washington Post any wouldn't let BuzzFeed in other outlets. So I got on the phone with now president, and I said are you going to do this? If you're elected are you going to revoke credentials? I wanted to listen to the audio tape of what he told me then. Fairly brian. If you're elected will you try to revoke the press credentials of media outlets at the White House. In my case, I made person running for office. I these him. And so I have an option when I'm representing the United States. I wouldn't do that. Somebody's untruthful. Okay. So I just want you to keep that in mind going forward. He was very clear two years ago. He would not strip credentials from White House reporters. Another broken promise from the president. All right. Quick break here. More on reliable sources, including that group of activists threatening Tucker Carlson, right outside his home. Disturbing video from the scene and the latest from the DC police right after this break. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. All right. Welcome back to reliable sources this week. A man in Arkansas was arrested in charge with making harassing phone calls to CNN even allegedly calling in death threats. MSNBC reportedly received some calls as well. Meantime in Washington, Tucker, Carlson's home, a left-wing group of self-described antifascists antifa chanted threats knocked on the door made a commotion. And here's the police report. The resulted a Carlson wasn't home. But his wife was she hitting the pantry until police arrived. Listen, I I think a lot of Tucker Carlson says on Fox News is awful. I think it's hurtful to his viewers. I think it's harmful to the country. But it is absolutely inappropriate and unacceptable for protesters to show up at his own home to try to make him feel threatened where he lives. So I asked Neil Patel. Let's Carlson's friend and co founder of the daily caller. What exactly that's experience was like for Tucker? Tucker was at his show prepping for a show, I think one of the things that's most troubling about. This is everyone knows when Tucker shows on these people targeted his house in his family when they probably knew he wouldn't be there because he was prepping for a show, so he's sitting there and all of a sudden he starts getting texts from people saying there's some problem at your house. And I think you know, he was pretty word in pretty shocked. You don't you don't expect to hear that? There are you know, there's a mob sitting in front of your house. Do we know anything more about what actually happened to the home? Well, his wife says he was home alone. Luckily, his kids weren't there. But Susie was there and was preparing to go out to dinner shit in the kitchen, and she all of a sudden, here's this giant commotion and people start pounding on her door and throwing themselves at the door to the point where the door actually cracked. She thought there's some kind of home invasion or signed going on and she took off and hidden in a closet or pantry and called the police so little context here. Dc police say some of the protesters did break the law by defacing public property. The police are now investigating. And as of this morning, they say it's an open investigation. So he asked Neil, what his message would be to these protesters or these activists, here's why Neal said it's unfair to even call this a protest in the first place. Let me just point out one thing. I don't think it's fair to call this a protest because if you look at what they were saying they're saying we will fight we know where you sleep at night Bryant. What does that mean to you? If someone said that he we we will fight. We know where you sleep it to me. That's a very clear threat. That's a threat. That's not a protest that's a threat. So they're trying to intimidate not just him. But even worse, his wife and his children. And so I think it's it's not legitimate to call that a protest. There are many ways you can protest many legitimate ways, you can protest this is an act of terrorism. Well, here's the counter argument, which I do not subscribe to. But what these activists say they were trying to do is make Tucker Carlson's family feel some of the terror that let's say kids separated the border feel. That's the argument. I don't agree with it. But what's the counter what Tucker does he gets up and he talks for a living? Okay. He gets up and he gives his viewpoint on things. So if someone wants to debate Tucker, they can get up and give a different viewpoint. In fact, he has a debate on his show every night all of that is. Legitimate going and targeting somebody's family and terrorizing them because you disagree with their dad or their husbands viewpoint is insanity. All right. That's Neil Patel, Carlson's friend and business partner. Let me bring in David zero wick and bring back Frank sesno. Now, David in reaction to this. Fox News said the incident was obviously reprehensible the network went on to say in this statement, which we can show you, quote, we as a nation have become far too intolerant of different points of view recent events across our country clearly highlight, the need for more civil respectful and inclusive national conversation, those of us in the media and impolitic bear special obligation to all Americans to find common ground Serwa, your reaction. I totally agree with it. I wish FOX actually acted on that instead of ratcheting up the polarization with shows that instead of, you know, Brian instead of a conversation of democracy instead of saying, I disagree with you often on FOX, you have shows where people go, you're an idiot. You're a moron. You know? And again, I totally agree. I'm delighted that one thing we can all. Agree on today in the press is that what happened at Tucker Carlson's house is wrong. But Tucker Carlson is also one of those people who does a show that mocks that taunts that ridicules some of the guests when he argues with him when he debates with them there's another way to debate. That's nicer. I'm not saying anyway that justifies it, please. Don't misunderstand me. But we in the media have responsibility in part of this, Brian is technology. Facebook loves emotional visual arguments, it generates more traffic for them and their algorithms to that. Yeah. That's one thing. And then on the other end, you have President Trump attacking the press ratcheting up the dialogue using tactics of nineteen thirties Europe to not just dehumanize members of the press, but give people who are susceptible as such messages, perhaps license to act on that you have. This terrible boiling situation. You know, we call it the conversation democracy. It's more like gangs in an alley armed with clubs swinging at each other calling each other names. That's where our discourse is today. And we all have to bring it down. We can't control the president. Obviously, he's going more in that direction. But every time one of us writes story, and we turn the language up a click higher. You know what I'm saying? Instead of saying this is a bad situation. We say this is a disgrace. It's the worst it's ever happened. I think we have to bring it down a little on our into, but we're being driven to that by social media and digital media where that stuff gets you, traffic and clicks, Frank sesno your view on this. I mean used to be the CNN DC bureau chief did we have these kinds of problems this kind of threats kinds of protests, you know, a decade ago. Not not like this. I mean, I think we've it's getting worse. It's getting worse. We're gonna places David says where this the the rhetoric has been turned up. The Heat's been turned up. It's been turned up. In the political world, we see that with the president all the time and others and in the media world, and it's not just FOX. It's lots of talk radio and talk television at times this network included where we have people screaming at one another accusing one another demonizing one another on the far left. I mean, look at what happened with Tucker's house on the far left. There are people that are convinced. He's a racist who is supporting a white nationalist movement going up, and that's told on Twitter driving his wife into a pantry. Fear is not the way to go. And I fear that there's going to be more of this. And there's going to be more of this across the board. You know, if anybody listen to Ted Cruz is victory speech, Ted Cruz called for a more civil dialogue. Most more civil discourse will politicians Ted Cruz, included and media, this network, FOX others included need to take David's comments and Ted Cruz is coming a heart because people do listen and people are triggered by these things, and we are in danger of hearing much much more. We have a responsibility to convene. Smart tough provocative, heart edge, debate and discussion fine, but it also needs to be within the realms of civil discourse. And we can lead the way on that. And should stand by both view quick break here, and then the midterms Democrats making major gains. In fact, they're stacking up every day to the media. Initially miss the strength of the Blue Wave. That's next. Anti-catholic March three sixty five on this week addition. I'll be joined by Kansas head coach Bill right now. That's probably one of the biggest we are team. Those guys get outside their comfort zone. He'd be good talkers. And really being a great leader. 'cause he could lead, by example. But he also got to have some people take charge. God's out on the court. You gotta get better. Describe too much man is three sixty five now at apple podcasts. And spotify. Did the news media under appreciate the strength of the Blue Wave in the house on Tuesday night, five days later it? Sure looks that way back on Tuesday. Wave spotters said the midterms were not delivering the huge repudiation of President Trump. The Democrats wanted to deliver. There's lots of talk about the red wall. This was the day after narrative on Fox News watch. It was not the Blue Wave that a lot of people predicted one. With regard to the blue way. I feel more like I got purple rain. It's a good line writing reflects the Democrats disappointment about better award coming short and Texas, and the the challenges in Georgia and Florida, but the election still isn't over votes are still being counted in Arizona, and California and other states and recounts are taking place. So it now appears to Democrats will pick up at least thirty five seats in the house. I mean, here's the map already. They're already far ahead of the Twenty-three. They need in the house day by day. The Washington Post notes the outlook for Democrats in the house has improved. Now, basically, the Senate is a very different story. There was no Blue Wave in the Senate. We can debate how the governor's races performed. But in the house something big happened. But we didn't know it necessarily on Tuesday night. For example, here's C N N's van Jones on Tuesday night versus Saturday night. This is heartbreaking though, it's heartbreaking. It's not a Blue Wave. But it's still a blue war in the end. This Blue Wave was actually bigger and bluer than actually looked at look like at first these right? That's the story. Now, it's becoming more to every day thinking about it this way in two thousand six the last time a Republican president face the mid-term referendum. The Democrats picked up thirty one house seats. George W Bush came out the next day and said, it was a thumping. This is a close election. The if you look at race by race. It was close cumulative effect. However was not to close. It was a thumping. This year. The Democrats are gonna pick up at least thirty seats likely thirty five or more. Sorry. They've already picked up thirty seats likely to end up picking up thirty five or more. President Trump's spun the results though as a big win for his party. It was nonsense. But do people really know what the real results were? Let's bring back. Frank sesno, David Zurlik. I wonder Franken this is about resource allocation, we spend so much time so much focus on Tuesday night. But we're still counting votes in parts of the country. It's kind of like this is a slow rolling midterm cycle. And the narrative of Tuesday night is not the narrative now, well, sometimes covering the news in real time as treacherous dangerous for your health, so covering it real time. You follow the poll closings you start in the east. So it was Florida and Georgia and some of these key races where it was tight but not so tight and at the end of the day. The Democrats didn't burst out not at the gubernatorial and Senate race that took time then it rolled across the country and some of these races as you point out are still being counted. And so the Earl. Early narrative was was really kind of hemmed in by those real time realities. The other thing was is that is that there were two separate narratives, right? The the Senate was on a very favorable who's on very favorable terrain from the outset for for Republicans. We talked about that a lot the house less though. So we ended up with these conflicting stories and at the end Donald Trump comes in the president to bully pulpit says great victory, and so I think that you know, it was a false narrative or let's not say faults, but an incomplete narrates probably made a mistake on Tuesday night necessarily. What was the story was still happening? That's what was happening. And so there was all this talk and all this expectation blue waves, which suggests that it's going to sweep everybody away. That's what waves do they watch everybody way. Well, that's not how it works. And it's not how it worked in this case. If you look at what the Democrats did in the house and the governor's mansions in state, legislatures even in Beddoe a rock losing that. He came that close in a state that is so solidly Republican that, you know, whether it's soon NAMI, no is it a wave looks like it. This is interesting. There's was kind of cool CNN on Tuesday is going to have another election night. It's going to be a three two three hour primetime special call election night in America, continued in order to reassess and look at the new result and look at the races that are still being counted. And look at these recounts, I think that's part of the solution to this issue about Tuesday night's narrative persons now, totally that's a great idea. I'll tell you something else O'Brien that's interesting about this is Trump again on Wednesday. So quickly change the narrative. Listen, I was in my editor's office Wednesday afternoon pitching Thursday morning print a Thursday morning online Sunday print piece analyzing the role of political TV advertising in the governor's race in Maryland and people were sticking their heads in Gong's their work. You gotta see this press conference. Trump is total you get halfway through my pitch. I said forget it. I'm writing about the press conference. And it was right? He changed it and also Brian. It's the Nanos. Second news cycles. We now have listen, I remember the days, and I loved them where you spent a week evolving through sifting through the results of a Tuesday night election. So the Sunday piece made perfect sense not anymore. We're often running any fired give you got rid of Jeff Sessions on Wednesday that change the narrative in an even bigger way. Yeah. All right. Yeah. It is an in a second news cycle. Isn't it? David frank. Thank you both for being here. Much more reliable sources in just a moment. So many people around the world, depend on CNN's quality reporting. And now they have an incredible online store we've clothes gear and gadgets right now, you can get fifteen percent off your purchase. Just visit store dot CNN dot com. 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September 13, 2020: Mary Trump on the wave of tell-all Trump books; Sam Donaldson on the revelations from Bob Woodward's reporting

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September 13, 2020: Mary Trump on the wave of tell-all Trump books; Sam Donaldson on the revelations from Bob Woodward's reporting

"I'm Brian stelter and this is reliable sources our look at the story behind the story this hour details from Bob Woodward's book rage the You have not heard about yet plus the ethical debate about withholding trump's early February statements until September we're also gonNA talk about the real power of tell all book is this year's bestselling author them all Mary trump will join me live. And later CNN chief international correspondent Kris Award. It's year showing her love letter to journalism. Plus we're going one on one with Netflix Co founder, Reed Hastings and ABC's Donovan, Carl, but I. The the sad stories that intersect America cleaning from one crisis to another crisis failing to put out one fire while others erupt sometimes. Literally, this morning's Los Angeles Times is a remarkable from page. Look at this. The headline says California's climate apocalypse read. What's right below it says saying fire heat air pollution the clemency is no longer in the future it is here now. That newspaper making no bones about it making clear that climate change is the story. Of course, the Western wildfires are competing for airtime with other crises like America's political crisis. When you look at some of the things, the president said it his rally last night it is clear. The country is in the throes of political crisis and the corona virus catastrophe exacerbates all of these crisis. crises. Take note of the date September thirteenth it's been six months since America shutdown in an attempt to stamp out the virus, it's been six months of this six months of adapting. To new ways of working, living, socializing, coping grieving. New Ways of giving birth as burying the dead everything changed six months ago and it's still changing. In the coming days, the United States will surpass two hundred thousand known deaths from Covid Nineteen, and we must always note the true toll is even higher. The press must do its part to capture this awful milestone. Make sure people don't lose sight of it. Time magazine did a great job of this This new issue on stands has the number two, hundred thousand and a black border around its cover time has only replaced signature red border with a black ribbon one other time. And that was after nine eleven. So. Let's go back six months back to March thirteenth six months ago today The New York Times. Front page reported the worst drought for wall. Street since nineteen eighty, seven crash alongside a headline that says testing remains elusive in the places most in need. Here's The Washington Post from that day outbreak begins the up end life across the United States. The sports page simply red full stop. On March Thirteenth only forty one reported deaths from the virus but the banners on CNN's new day signaled what was coming here some of the banners shutting down over coronavirus fears, millions of US students affected by school clothings, closings, ventilators, and supplies in high demand. Americans struggled to adjust to reality and let's focus it on the one that says, Krono virus crises becomes defining moment of trump presidency. Six months ago today trump had this to say about his handling the virus. Don't take responsibility at all. I don't take responsibility to all six months ago today and that has stuck as his motto of sorts. So. Why am I bringing this up now? Why this time capsule? Because Bob Woodward has brought. The failures of the federal government's response to the virus right back front and center. It is all in his new book rage. The details are even more painful when you read them. With six months of reflection. You see their those headlines Woodward. Himself is under some scrutiny as well about what he knew when while he was trying to find out what the president knew. So, there's a lot to talk about here. We're GONNA get into the ethical debate and much more. Let me start by bringing in my guests here this morning. Sam Donaldson of course is the veteran ABC News journalist. He was there at the White House for decades. He's seen it all he's with me along with Bill Carter former new times media reporter now. CNN media analyst and Seeming Asthma Doctor Osmond asthma former CDC disease detective now, CNN medical analyst Sam. You've been reading about the details revelations enrage what stands out to you most These tapes, of course, Donald J trump tumors own mouth. We hear how much of a liar he is and how much of a liar he has always been and what he puts I in his. Mind this year and not as his reelection not safe to the American people to hear that from trump himself. Well, it's not really a smoking gun because we knew he was a liar. We knew he wanted his reelection to be number one and as Fandango has gone on in this country, we've seen that he has no. Blacks he hates the generals and calls the names. That's the trump. We all know some people don't care. I care and I think the. Most Americans do care and I want to show a brand new ABC poll. This data came out this morning showing we are not a fifty fifty country on issues like the federal government's handling of the coronavirus. We're more like a one and three country one out of three Americans are with trump no matter. What if we can put that full screen up there? Some data that really points this out about sixty eight, sixty, seven Americans say they do not trust the president when he talks about the virus only thirty five percent of Americans approve of trump's handling. Again we are. We are not a fifty fifty country. We are a one in three country or a two-thirds country. I suppose when it comes to trump's failures a two-thirds country that sees it for what it is Dr Seemingly Osmond. You have been outspoken about Woodward's ethical responsibility here you say that when Woodward heard trump in February, say this virus's deadly it's a killer it's much worse than the flu he should have told the public then and not wait until now tell us your case. Absolutely because Bob would himself is saying now Brian, that the president of the US has a duty to warn that is correct but so do you all and so do I and sodas every journalist who signed up for this job. If you have information that can save even one life let alone close to two hundred, thousand lives than you have a journalistic ut an ethical duty to share that information, we should not be learning. That now seven and a half months after you I sat down with the president when we lost so many people because I think the public health response to this and the perception of this could have been quite drastically. Different Brian. If we had learned this information early and I know that Bob is saying, well, I don't know if it would have made a difference of course it would if you had told US earlier that. Look your president is saying one thing to me in private the opposite thing in public, and he's admitting to downplaying the seriousness of this public health right from his top advisors that could have drastically shifted the way that many Americans perceived all unprepared for this pandemic. Instead, we were denied about opportunity to interrogate misinformation bobby saying while I didn't know it was true I needed time to check it out. That's even more reason to. Share this with beat reporters back in February and March think about what was happening on the east coast I will hospitals that had refrigerated trucks outside operating as more outside their facilities. That's how bad things were. That's how bad things along now, we should not have waited seven and a half months for this information. Those of us in Europe will never never forget never forget those trucks bill. What's your view of what words responsibility? Will I completely agree that it's a perfectly reasonable thing to say he should have come forward and you know from a moral point of Utah to argue that he shouldn't. But whether or not, it would have changed something I do think is an open question because we have never seen anything like what trump does and would would come forward presumably and said always saying this in private and trump would do what he's doing now, which is turn it around turned into a war against the press attack, the press and his people would not have changed their point of view because they're not changing the point. Of View even now even after Woodward either even after anything else that happens. So I don't know if really that would have been a significant change and now reporting it now does it have more impact? It probably has more impact because we've seen trump again and again, and again we have constant tape if I'm lying and still bring out people mobs of people without masks on and still trying to read the statistics get the CDC. Use his information instead of the real information. So it's I think it's at least a fair question to ask whether or not. It would've changed anything if would would have come forward although for a moral point of view, it's very hard to say you should even argue about one death that he could say right because obviously, if that have been the case you would do. As someone who's actually finally finished rage this morning it's painful to read. It's essential to read. It'll be out for everybody on. Tuesday. Here's my take on this argument. Woodward seems to be trying to help trump trying to help trump, manage this crisis and I mean that in a positive way, we can debate whether that's journalistically appropriate but here's an Xtra from page three, hundred and six of of rage where Woodward's on the phone. Going through a checklist with trump fourteen issues that he's been told from his expert sources trump needs to address in the springtime and says, I'm telling you this as a reporter. I'll emphasize this again, they are saying they want a sense of World War Two mobilization and trump says all right I got to understand I. got you. I think we're doing a very good job. I've got you. So in this conversation that Woodward, print space. Them Woodward is trying to help trump, get us through this crisis, and I think perhaps from Woodward's point of view, he was trying to do his part not just as a journalist but as a citizen in those terrible weeks in March and April. So that's an interesting part of this that would words on the phone with trump. So often almost trying to coach trump like he's a leadership coach and I wonder in the coming days. What we're gives interviews on his book tour. If he will say, that was part of his rationale for what he was doing. Here's another excerpt from rage. People have not noticed yet. It's on page two, hundred, ninety, four, trump talk into Woodward's saying, well, nobody knew a thing like this could happen the best decision I. Made was Europe and China closing our doors, of course, trump did that far too late in the case of. Europe. But. The claim that nobody can see this coming is so at odds with the facts and I think one of the public services, what we're doing with this book is forcing all this back in front of us making us recognize just how terrible the federal government's response was to this crisis. Hey Sam let me ask you about something a little bit different, which is one of the president's comments this week where he was trying to deflect attention from the ongoing coronavirus pandemic he was talking about all these. The grievances he has and how Fox News covers them for him. He read off all the shows, the unwashed on Fox News the night before and the Joe Biden campaign reacted with an ad. We will put up onscreen ticking through the number of hours of airtime just how many hours of Fox News trump is watching on any given day we'll drop the banner and you'll see there's a ticker in the Biden ad that counts up the hours and hours of television coverage. You think that is still shocking to Americans to anybody that the president is a TV addict. I think it's very shocking to Americans at the president's anything that we see him to be some Americans don't care some Americans may not know but so they've been living with rip Van Winkle and the Cave in the APPALACHIANS. But you know in this question about whether it would have mattered if a Woodward had come forward to hear the tapes last February at time when Tony Fao g I have great. Respect for was still not certain how dangerous it would be was not yet saying we should all wear masks remember a different time to say. Would what should have known? What was? GonNa, come let me tell you was going to come would republican governors who to this day some of them refusing to order masks for their states Florida being example, would they have looked at this tapes and said by good this I've been following the Charlatan I'm going to funnel F- Ouchi and science. With his base which will follow him to the gates of hell maybe even in if necessary because he says to, we did of suddenly realized. No, what am I doing voting for him it would not have changed the thing and I agree with bill, which is the impact of those tapes will probably have more impact if. On the five percent of Americans were told still thinking the vote, but they don't know who to vote for now than if they'd played them last February two main Woodward. The bad guy is to turn topsy turvy. The situation interesting bill is all about power. Go ahead bill. Ultimately. This is all about power all these stories about trump appointees trying to change information. Equal, it's all about power. It's all about maintaining power and in order to do that, they have to push aside all the facts they're not acknowledging it. They are saying that the two hundred thousand dead are not really because of covid they're trying to argue that old. So many of them would have died anyway this denial of reality is all about we don't care about the facts. The truth were only interested in maintaining power and it's been effective with you know at least forty percent of the population. They don't want to change power they and he's made them afraid of a change and it's really a staggering thing. We've seen I don't know do you think Brian that a Democratic president would have his his supporters with him. After all of these scandals, outrageous scams, it's quite a remarkable thing that he's been able to maintain the support. It only has to be because people want him to remain in power. It's a reason to have more interviews with voters both trump voters. Biden. Voters and Non Voters Dr Larry Osmond last year for the doctor the president's on twitter this morning downplaying the virus again, saying cases are falling very steadily and fast deaths in hospitalizations way down it is true that the numbers are moving in the right direction but they are coming from a painfully high place. What's the reality check on the president's words here? We're heading into flu season right kids starting to go back to school in person in some places. So this has all the potential to get worse, and that's what we need to be really mindful of I do want to say it's not Bob Woodward's to be a leadership coach to the president of the United States. It's his job to be a journalist and I really hope that his journalistic duty align more with the public that with a book launch but also his poor judgment on this has. Now become a defense for the president who saying, well, if I had said was so important also bad or had legitimate public health impacts, and of course, Woodward would have shared this with editors at the post earlier and they were published it. But also would would has done this before in two thousand five he sat on information from a Bush administration official about operative and had to apologize for not going to editors two years sooner. So this raises questions about who do journalists and journalism have allegiance to. Brian in the context of a pandemic, that has disproportionately hurt and killed black Americans indigenous Americans and people of Color. We really do need to point the thing ourselves as journalists, journalism professors, and remember this can be quite a cozy journalism ethics conversation certainly be talking about in the classroom with my journalism students. But the point is there are two hundred thousand Americans who are dead who cannot have this debate because they died from a virus and a viral pandemic that was not managed responsibly. Woodward will be able to take on this debate himself starting tonight on sixty minutes but it was pre tapes really starting tomorrow the Today Show Colbert he'll be all over and he'll be asked about this for sure to the panel. Thank you very much. Coming up next on the program. The best selling author of the year Mary. Trump hear her reaction to this newest book next. This November will experience one of the most consequential election of our lifetime in with headlines changing every hour, you need a guide something to show you how all the stories together in why they matter. I'm David Chalian and I'm the Emily Henderson and each week on our new podcast. We'll help you tune out the noise and tune in to what's politically sound. Politically, sound a new podcast from CNN listen wherever you get your podcast. Here is a cartoon that perfectly sums up this week it was created by Matt worker for Politico it. So trump facing a wave of books about to crash down, and here's a sample of some of the trump related books that have hit stores, e-readers, and twenty twenty on the New York Times bestsellers list this week four trump books take up the top slots and nonfiction. Yes. My book hoax is one of those but look up higher books like. You. Michael Smith and. Many others that have been making a lot of news and here's another data point this week going Amazon, the top three bestselling books were Bob Woodward's Rage Peter Struck book compromised, and Michael Cohen's book disloyal. The trump book industry is huge. Now let's go wider and look at Amazon's top books not just for this day or this week but so far this year you can see that too trump books dominate John Bolton's the room where it happens has been a huge seller but the number one book in the country this year according Amazon is Mary Trump's book too much and never enough that's right the number one seller out of all of them. So let's dissolve to marry trump here she is along with being a bestselling author. She's also a clinical psychologist and trump's only niece mary. Thank you for joining me. Thanks for and it's really great to be here and congratulations on the success of hoax. It's awesome. Well, you know what's happened to allow books mine yours a lot of others they've had to go out and print more copies and that's How much interest there inch why do you think there is so much interest three and a half years in. In this these books about trump. It's extraordinary and honestly you've you've probably had the same anxieties before your book came out. There's no way to know how something is going to land. So it wasn't until a few weeks in that I understood for the first time what a hunger there is out there for the truth you know. People in this country has been gaslight for. So long there is so much cognitive dissonance. On a daily basis that I think people are just. Desperate to put everything into a context that they haven't had before. Full disclosure your book and my book were published by Simon, and Schuster, and so is Bob Woodward's book rage Woodward at the very end of rates. He says, trump is the wrong man for the job pretty rare for journalists like Woodward to come to that conclusion What's your reaction to the excerpts that have come out so far from rage? Nothing. Surprises me it doesn't at all surprise me unfortunately that Donald would. Say something in private in which he actually knowledge the severity of the situation and then turn around and publicly either he senator completely contradict himself because he felt it benefited him more ally. And as for why Mr Woodward didn't release them sooner, I'm not going to wade into that because that is to change the subject. What we need to focus on is what actually said, and we can deal with the issue later. There's so much. The President says, when asked about a couple of his new quotes, he was on Fox last night with Janine Piero lying about Joe Biden suggesting the Biden is using drugs to enhance his performance. Now, you obviously raise questions in your book about trump's fitness about his health. You know do you think that trump is projecting money brings us up about Biden. I can't speak to the issue of Donald Drug use or. You know his using drugs I know information about that at all I do know however that he projects about almost everything and you know he's he's known for that. So I don't want one I. Don't know where it's coming from I've never heard such a thing said about Joe Biden. Partially, it's it's Donald Desperation. He's grasping at straws at the moment but other than that. I'm not entirely sure what purpose he thinks that serves, but it is odd but it is about blood being the front runner it should be framed that way. This is the the number two candidate trying to go after the number one candidate maybe it is desperation. Argue that you're young girl is unfit for office. I wonder if the press has been too timid about raising questions about his fitness for the past three and half years. I'm extraordinarily glad you ask that question one of the reasons the American people are suffering from cognitive dissident because they see what's happening with their own. They see Donald Being Racist they see Donald saying racist things and yet today the media in general do not call him a racist. They still continue to pull these punches. So it's very difficult for a lot of people who maybe don't consume as much news. A certainly idea where you do chew under to make sense of what's going on without a guide and the media I believe in general not not across the board fall down when it comes to these extraordinarily important moments in which donald and his behavior need to be explicitly defined based on things. He says and does not we're not talking about theoretical issues are hypotheticals we're talking about calling it what it is. Here's an example from the weekend. Again, he said mail in balloting that's so unconstitutional and I think the banner on streets trump doesn't seem to know what's in the constitution. Right? Doesn't seem what's constitutional you say in your book, that's because he'd ever read doesn't read anything but when the press doesn't highlight these crazy things that are set at rallies in interviews, we actually make everything seem more normal and okay than it is. Of course and normalizing him. which has been going on for decades is one of the reasons we're here you know and I would actually take it a step farther I think yes. Of course, we need to point out that the fact that clearly the man in the Oval Office has no idea what's in the constitution but More. To the point. Now considering there's election in less than two months we need to point out that by saying that he's cheating. Undermining, the legitimacy of at election that hasn't even happened yet and Not One vote has been cast he is. I'm going to pick up right there were you left off in my next segment Mary thank you so much for being here. Check out our nightly reliable sources newsletter for more on all of this on sign up for free at CNN dot com slash reliable quick break here on the program. When we come back, we're talking with ABC's Jonathan Karl those four words he asked trump the other day. Why did you lie? Kara, we'll take inside the briefing room next. And we are back here on reliable sources. We were talking before the break about the president's claims involving election rigging, some of the craziness from his rally I don't know what else to call it besides craziness. I, want to show you why that word does apply. Here are some of the claims an incomplete list of what happened in Nevada last night trump claimed the Democrats are going to rig the election he said he's probably entitled to serve more than two terms because of the way we were treated says, Biden would allow violent mobs burned down your business he called Biden pathetic. And weak and all that let's go to the next page because this goes on and on he said, Democrats want to destroy the suburbs they'll be racial dog whistle there. He's a Democrats want to indoctrinate your children he brought Hillary Clinton. He said her lawyer should go to jail with her which is an interesting quote. Then he mocked comcast by calling comcast he attacked some reporters. He got some facts. Wrong. He called the evening news corrupt for not reporting that he was nominated for a Nobel. Peace Prize. I. Think all of this matters because when we tell you just had a raucous rally. Right When we tell you, we said some controversial things. We are missing the big story. Now there are moments where I think all of this noise does get. addressed. There are moments when reporters can break through the nonsense. Let me tell you one of those moments from one of the president's press conferences. This week ABC's Giancarlo brought up the reporting and the revelations from Bob Woodward's book and asks trump this direct question. Did you lied to the American people and why should we trust what you have to say terrible question and the phraseology I didn't lie. What I said is we have to become we can't be panicked in the way you phrase that is such a disgrace. It's a disgrace to ABC television network. It's a disgrace to Europe lawyer. It's the opposite disgrace. Let's talk about it with Jonathan Karl. The ABC News. Chief. White House correspondent and the author of front row at the trump show John. Thanks for coming on. What's that moment like when you say to the President? Why did you lie? Will Brian I've I've resisted using that word for five years of covering Donald Trump is a candidate and as president. But I I went in there feeling it. There was no other way to put. This was a case where thanks to the tapes of his talks with Bob Woodward. We see that the president knew what the truth was, and in fact, explained to Woodward his reason for not telling the truth that is by definition a lie. So I just felt that I needed to ask the question directly as plainly as possible his insult to me. Calling me a disgrace to the ABC News television network. At this point I've gotten kind of used to it. Right? It's a day that ends in y. let me play devil's advocate how much is really revelatory from the book rage we all saw the president in public view downplay the Ben Mc from the very beginning. Well. What's different is knowing his intent knowing what was inside his head? What did he know at the time? So you have the two critical aspects of the Woodward interviews, the February date where it's very clear that he knows just how deadly this virus is. He knows that it's a lot worse in the flu and then he comes out and he says it's just like a flu so that that that's a lie. He knew one thing he said another thing and then the march conversation where he explains to Woodward his rationale for not being upfront with the American people. So that's what's different. We knew that he was saying things. That were not true with Woodward. We know that he actually knows the truth and has a reason for not telling I think one of the biggest stories overarching all of this next to, of course, is the president trying to sow doubt about the election trying to suggest that it may not be legitimate we were in this exact spot for years ago. This we were saying exact same things during the two thousand, sixteen campaign. The difference now is the person saying has controlled the government how are you and your colleagues at ABC preparing for what could be a week long election night and for the chaos that could ensue. Well, first of all, it's in many ways doing exactly what we've done following the returns, following the results sticking to the facts to the numbers. That's what matters to vote count. Obviously, there's GonNa be a lot of concern because of what the president has said and also because you have such an increase in mail in voting on questions of the integrity of the vote so we will have a team. That is looking at all of that, but I've got to tell you Brian and a lot of races of covered local races I've covered congressional races. I've covered presidential races in virtually every race I have covered. The person. The candidate complains about irregularities and fraud is the candidate who is losing There's an exception to that rule, which was four years ago. With Donald Trump so I I I. have to stay focused on exactly what's going on and I will in terms of how long this is going to go look early in the night early in the night on election night Florida is a state despite what happened twenty years ago Florida is a state that actually seems to have had its have its act together and there's a lot of mail in voting has done a lot of mail in voting won't have a dramatic increase this time it'll be very similar to what's happened before and they're you know if you remember we called Florida, the networks called Florida before eleven o'clock. On on election night four years ago and if Donald Trump doesn't win. Florida you know it's not a very long night. Jonathan thank you so much for being here. Good to see you. See. This is like a reliable book club edition. The next book we have so many books talking about talking about rage now about clarice awards, New Book on All Fronts, her advice for journalists covering this story time in the United States. Hey welcome back political news takes up so much time so much oxygen but most reporters are working every day on other fronts for example, these historic overwhelming fires in the Western. United States these are of course, one of the most important stories in the world right now the air quality is horrendous. We need to stay focused on these fires. There is news on all fronts these days, and that brings me to CNN chief international correspondent Clarisa Ward She's been on the front lines many stories for the past decade plus and she's out with a brand new book titled on All Fronts, the education of journalist Chris Thank you for coming on with me. Thank you for having. ME. Right. There's a lot I learned in your book including about your early days where I didn't even realize this you worked out Fox News, you describe the ups and downs of working at Fox including sexism and misogyny. So tell us what happened that you hadn't revealed until now. Well I. Never Thought about the fact that there was a lot of pressure at Fox and this doesn't come as any surprise anyone to look a certain way. So I was sent an email by very well intention to anchor while I was in Baghdad covering the US occupation than insurgency that was raging. They're basically telling me that I should try to wear my hair down because that's how Roger likes girls to wear. Their hair down a tree can appreciate Ryan the absurdity of being in Baghdad being in a war zone and getting an email telling you that you should be wearing your hair down. I didn't even have hairdryer needless to say I've heard stories from other. Fox offers a similar about that focus on appearance. You moved around many networks over years pretty much everywhere. But NBC at this point why that kind of hopscotching around. That I always dreamed of working for CNN when I was first starting out, and then it just took me a really long time to get here at up frustrated at ABC News even though I work with some amazing journalists because there just wasn't a huge focus on international stories CBS was a wonderful place to work but there was this kind of dysfunction between sixty minutes and the news division that made it very difficult to be someone who was divided between both sides of the street there, and then CNN came with this incredible offer and opportunity, and I haven't looked back I will not be going anywhere else. So why do you think people? What is it? The people need to know about covering conflict zones like Syria for CNN. Well, what are the most important stories in your book about that? I think that people need to understand a few things first of all I think there's way too much of a taboo still about talking about issues of trauma and covering war and the absolute Lee inevitable toll that takes on an individual. We need to be much more outspoken about that and kind of get rid of this idea that war correspondents needs to be tough as nails. We don't need to be tough as nails we actually need to. Be Extremely, compassionate and extremely open to the trauma, the horror that we're processing. But I look at the next generation of Journalists Brian and I got their work cut out for them because we are kind of slipping into this post truth world than it is becoming increasingly difficult for journalists to kind of navigate the line between journalism and activism, and when do you respond to the attacks on Wendy you ignore the attacks it's it's a really difficult atmosphere. It is and the way through it is to keep telling the truth and and learn from people like you Chris. Award. The book is on fronts a highly recommend it. Thank you. We're coming. Up Next on the program my one on one but netflix co CEO read a sticks. In, other bills that we're talking a lot about books our well, there are a lot of great books out right now and book tours are opportunities to interview people who are otherwise hard to get like the Netflix's Co founder. Reed. Hastings who's out with this really revealing new book called no rules rules about Netflix and the culture of reinvention he co authored with business school professor Aaron Meyer earlier I spoke with hastings and I asked them both about culture as well as about Corona Virus Era TV production. We know right. About rules we write about freedom. We write about inspiring people instead of supervising. And the lessons are really for any kind of creative organization as opposed to an industrial organization but creative organization wants to inspire people to come up with new ideas. Right, and it's the same thing that you see in major newsrooms you're bringing the best people retain the best talent, give them the freedom to go out and break stories the same values and ideals of what you described but net flicks for the past twenty years I was struck by your description of of radical candor of creating a culture of candor because in my field journalism far too many journalists get defensive make a mistake. They don't like to be candid about what went wrong. Sometimes there's this discomfort with being candid. How do you create a culture of candor? In journalism that made me because you're under attack tackle the time. Unique. Situation. But I would say within the company people give each other feedback because they want to grow and get better. And feedback can hurt just like exercise hurts but it makes you stronger and so we really encourage people to be very honest with each other. And to help each other by being. Very direct. I. Think People might hear about this book and say, are you giving away Netflix's secret sauce to its rivals including CNN's parent order media? Well that is an unfortunate aspect, but we want to get it out to help new candidates who are thinking about coming to work that flicks to all that. So they know whether it's a good fit for them. Right, how has the NETFLIX's culture been affected or upended by the pandemic? When most people are not in their offices and wonder if it's easier harder to give. Honest feedback to be radically transparent. When you're on zoom. Day. Maybe it's actually easier not harder. Probably it's probably always a little bit art might be a touch higher because it depends on relationship. were, coasting on the relationships that we warns before lockdown. So. you know which will lessen over time that the key part is you wanNA balance and so some video conferencing and some in person. Right. Right. That's a great point. We are all we're taking from that bank where we all made deposits pre pandemic and we're spending. But if someone that's going to run out and that's true for content as well what about Netflix and producing content amid pandemic? Well, we're very fortunate that we produce all over the world. So we're producing in Canada the UK. All through Europe through lots of Asia Korea Japan and some in the US were trying to get the enough of the right testing getting the protocols right. So we're seeing some growing success there, but it's tough going. 'cause this pandemic is just a nasty virus. How far ahead do you all think is a two or three years ahead in terms of a pipeline of content to feed the service. You know we think many years ahead but generally, it's a year from production to being on the service. Yeah. So do you think in the in the short to medium term Americans are going to watch more shows produced outside the US because it's harder to produce television in the fifty states? I think we've got more original content coming next year than we had this year. So we're going to have a great service next year and the year beyond despite all challenges, and you obviously have an eye on Disney and on Disney plus and on the launch Moulin recently, do you think that these streaming services launched recently peacock and Hbo Max the others will they all be around in ten or twenty years or will only the strongest survive? Well for sure HBO and Disney will be around. We'll see what happens with the other it's. You know there'll be some consolidation, but you know if you think of newspapers in the heyday of newspapers, there was a lot of TV networks. There's a lot of them in the heyday of cable. So there's room for a number of great players. If they produce amazing content, may the best shows may the best movies win I? Always think it's important to read your quarterly shareholders letters. You talk about the competition the competitive set people are often surprised when you say for example, that Tiktok is a competitor right than anything you spend doing on your phone is a competitor net flicks. More narrowly we think about it as the substitute competitors are often the ones that get firms. So the more direct competitors you know of, say us in Disney and Viel, we have similar values will split the market at various proportion depending on our execution. But then you get the substitutes U2 Tiktok in video gaming that are other forms of entertainment, and we can't compete with them by or generally don't compete with them by doing what they do. We have to compete with them by making r art form stronger and stronger. Rarely key inside their from Reed Hastings after a quick break, we have some breaking news about trump event coming up later today. President. Trump's defiance of social distancing guidelines denial about the pandemic is forcing news outlets to make some tough decisions about how to keep their staffers safe. TV reporters have been attending his outdoor events like the one yesterday Nevada. Well, later today thousands of people are set to attend a trump event inside a manufacturing facility in Henderson Nevada no social distancing chairs. So close together that they will be touching. That's why some if not all the major TV networks have decided not to send their camera crews inside because they feel it will not be safe enough. It's not wise to go along with the president's Loosey Goosey approach. TV News Executive source tells me that there will still be a pool camera at the back of the venue to capture the event, but you will not see the usual contingent of correspondence from networks like CNN. I'll have more on this internet reliable sources newsletter and for more on this topic of the president's denial is check out our podcast as well. My guest this week is slates will sell it and you can check it out at reliable sources, dot com, and we will see you right back year this time next week.

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GSMC Fantasy Football Podcast Episode 303: Jets in Big Trouble

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"Golden state media concepts fantasy football podcast is your one stop shop for fantasy football news and advice sign rooted draft. First Round Dali Gaga, and how to line of your team's got you covered traditionally China's steel leaks he arlene I, DP DP. Lead. piggly fantasy football league Djilas, we break down all the question of fantasy football. It's the golden state media concepts, fantasy football podcast. Hello and welcome to the G. S. C. Fantasy football podcast on GMC podcast network. I'm your host and you know what? Time it is baby it's Friday. Over braise having a good one man I am definitely try my best man. You know sometimes you get tired of grinding and it's time to live. So now we're about to live through some fantasy football experiences man it's been a week. One Heck of a week and it's time to get through it man we're going to get through together hand in hand. Palm to palm. We're going to get through it. All right. Now the with the combine stuff here Burnett Phil Jackson in here but we're going to get some we're GONNA WE'RE GONNA feel it out man we're going to do some things here. First, things first, I have a little segment that is not named is just something that put some thought into so. I was thinking today. As I was heading into another job occupation I do. About Alabama football and something that crossed my mind was that you know. Out of all the great pass catching running backs too that we have in his league this far. Majority of them. Are. Not. Alabama products in the past ten years. A lot of them not even close to being Alabama products from the SEC in general. Not Too many either but sieving the Alabama the only two that I can say off the top of my head that are pass catching serviceable backs if you want to count it that. TJ, Yeldan, and Kenyan drake basically right TJ yelled at a certain point only had twenty I'm pretty sure. It's maximum that you've ever had was twenty in his career and Alabama, and then Kenyon. Drake had the most any running back since twenty thirteen there I didn't check all the way through I just want to check just a good sizable. A good sample size. So believe through twenty third to twenty twenty currently he twenty nine, which is the most receptions. Bhai, running back on Alabama from that time for the timeframe and. You know I didn't really I looked to see who were two different office coordinators, but it didn't really look like it matter too much as the game plan was very simple. WE'RE GONNA run it down your throat up the middle. We have recruit some of the best. Oh linemen in the country and we're just gonNA bully until you submit every time until of course, they tried to the some different stuff too in the air when they had somebody with a ball like two or anyone else, and they had like really really special past catches as far as receivers of course, they threw the ball that's the play action game and they did all different sorts stuff through the ball to. But they didn't really throw it to running backs and. I was curious to see if that's just a flaw, the Nick Saban's offense or anywhere else because I wanted to know just a simple question did Alabama's offense their offensive game plan offense scheme their identity as a football. I don't WanNA franchise because that's not really what you use in college as a school has a program. That's probably the best word as a program. Like. Did. They potentially stunt the potential of a lot, their running backs from being as. Versatile as they could have been coming out of school. Or is this just some trend in college football and was happening here is the influx of all these pass catching backs and stuff is from a whole different. Universe as far as how we proceed them and how we look at them. Come draft day. So here we he would go into this, right so. Low Number is across the board from. Alabama. If you look at running backs in the receiving category, this year is not too many. Think the. There's there's like maybe eight I counted six or eight total running backs. Within like the top one hundred. Of wide receivers in that bs who have played granted now everybody's played yet but you know I think it's the sample size of FBI teams. Only eight of the top one hundred receivers have. are running backs essentially right. There's only a few tight ends as well, but that's to be expected but why receiver typically dominate the passing game who would've thought in college football? and. You'll see running backs maybe in through been belt four games now within college football for people who have played for a while and some is, of course, SEC is first we've ACC is going to week four right now. There's not that many guys who are sitting here wracking in catch after catch. Most by running back is ten. Tank catches out the backfield and. I do know that the the running back out of. Mississippi state WHO's in that Was In that Mike Leach offense was eating of course, but when your quarterback throws. Six hundred twenty three yards i. out expect everybody to have a have a good piece of the pie there. So that might be more of our lower than what you think. Where I'm getting with this is. I'm coming from this angle should. I say. So when considering how we look at running backs today the twenty twenty yet to come at it from the angle of we know that these guys can be good pure runners anybody can be a good pure runner. There's a lot of factors that make good running backs great and services running backs good. Some of them are, of course, vision in the backfield. one cut speed out of cuts, things like that, and then of course, there's stuff that the running back can't necessarily always control. and. If you can overcome that to a certain agreement that puts you into a different category so. The thing that you can't control as if you're offensive line is good not right. If you're offensive line is not good in NFL. Is going to be extremely difficult for you to showcase any sort of. Your ability, right. So look at Laimi on Bellavy I'm bell he's hurt right now. But even last year he got like two point eight yards per carry. It was horrendous as often as the line was really bad I don't think on the player at least last year did not look hindered. I mean he did have injuries here there. But when you did play and he looked healthy, it just was there wasn't enough talent on the old line try to retool it and then they let L. Lyman going off season along with all things and I say this as the this is the very night of potentially Adam Gates, his last game playing as a jet as some rumors or in a flat round about that but. In. All honesty. If you have no offense. Excuse me off line. You're essentially show in the water as a running back because you can only be so elusive you can only make so many people miss before. You get to your point of the attack. Right US very difficult to make one or two guys miss in the backfield every time. That's why sake on it's such an interesting character or should I say an interesting player because he will make a few people in the backfield before he even gets to the line of scrimmage and then still might take it to the house because it's just that special of a player and that's why people tout him as one of the most talented running back. We've ever seen come out of the draft like. Ever. Wait we're talking Reggie Bush. Barry. Sanders. Type stuff where we've never seen a guy this talented before have this much power. This would speed quickness his pass catching ability. and. You know I was talking to people scientism friends asked around like there's only maybe one pure is brawler leg a brewing. Hurtful, running back that gets thirty carries a game and just hurt people with his running and that's Derrick Henry of course. So Derrick Henry is the only guy in the League doing that Zeke is not punishing people with his runs. Like his first year. The whole idea of him grinding people out. Yeah. He did at the same time I often to line he came into the league with was. unrealistically good. The cowboys Oh Lyon has, of course, gotten older had injuries. And of course, some have left I'm retired and things like that. So it's not as good as one's e came in the League, and you can clearly see Zeke is not the same runner as he did when he first came in the League and some of these guys just end up being that way. Look at Josh Jacobs Josh Jacobs is a really really good running back right now he's passing. Game. It's not there or can pass catching games not great, but he's he's tried to work on an off season. We're here I come back again. So some of these Alabama prospects came into league with little to no pass catching ability shown, and some of them had showed some signs. But how did you know they were going to be able to get like fifty to sixty catches per year out the backfield? Well I'm starting to believe that pass catching ability is not something that. Is showcased within the college ranks during Games, game like that is not something that's shown easily easily something dissect. To say that. Yeah because of certain fifteen catches, we know he's going to be the next album Kamara. Honestly think it's even deeper than that. And you have to look at the tape in a different way and if you're scout or evaluator talent. They do this on the regular anyway. But if you're just the common man, if you're someone like me who you know, we talk football for women but we're just not smart not as good as these guys these executives, scouts and whatever. You. Know what you WanNa do is you have to see how people catch the ball how they prepped their hands already they are. Are they dropping the ball before turning? Before the made insecure, the catch, how do they break out of their routes? How does how do they do certain things running multiple routes within an offense even though they're not receiving the ball too much are they just sitting in the flat routes all day like how do you have to think about this sort of stuff and then obviously? Is Harder for guys who go into systems that are not built for them to. Stretch out the tree they weren't stretching out the route tree for Derrick Henry or both garber or Josh Jacobs or anything like that. nause himes, you're not doing that for him either like. It doesn't mean they don't have the ability and is doesn't mean it can't develop it. Ingraham was not a pass catching running back. Mark Ingram is a service will pass catcher out of the flat rousing S- You know he's not he's done tremendous amounts of work on his hands. You know he's a really great screenplay or coming from the saints, and of course, they little five route drop. A little curl inside the numbers. Is something that he didn't New Orleans all the time and he's taking with them to Baltimore and he's much more versatile back then when he came into the NFL and of course. Marketing of coming to the NFL has a finished product. In some strange way, you would think running backs you think come into the NFL has finished products, but that's not the case anymore because there's always another level they can go. And to kind of wrap this in a Bo I have a theory called this curry theory because I think this way I think a lot of people think this way in basketball as well. We're in basketball everybody's trying to everybody is wondering what Curry's impact on his generation is going to cause and so far. What we've seen is people not only three point percentage. Is through the roof people are taking more threes and you know people were talking about the three point percentage is so high. It'd be interesting to see if you move the three point line to the edge of the baseline right you take three point line shifted over to the editor baseline. So that way the only way you can get threes are basically at the. Top. In the the Hash marks arc everywhere else would you choose because three point lake corner stuff is just getting out of control regardless three pointers or through the roof efficiency is through the roof. And a lot of people have researched this kind of stuff and the fact that Kerry rain is a thing and people shoot threes from thirty, thirty, five feet. Sometimes it's ridiculous and people were practicing this at an early age and we're already seeing basically the first generation of new high-schoolers guys coming from middle school watching curry getting older. Now, coming into league trying to shoot like curry and we're seeing the results of people trying to do this for a long time, and it's only going to be more and more people who attempt to do this because it upstairs game to a different level and for football I'm starting to think that. Pass. Catching running backs are starting to come into the league more and more because they probably worked on this stuff. Before, going to college. In colleges, kind of make offenses are advance don't get me wrong offenses are advanced in college, but from college the NFL, just a different level of preparation and different level of packages and different formations that you have to know and what to do in route running and what they ask of you to the to the point where you have to use of that stuff that you were practising on. You know in high school middle school in your prep time. Getting Ready for the League. Because they ask more of you to do that, and then these scouts that are looking for these takeaways, these keys, these tells that you are this good at doing this. That's when things you start to see. Alvin Kamara get drafted because Alvin Kamara coming out of the draft. They had to work with the saints or he had with the saints and the Saints for so impressed they took him in the third round. Like this is This is what people see now, and then you see guys starts showcasing skills that you just didn't expect in the League is littered with good running backs. who also have the ability to pass catcher? You should say or I should say that the League has specialty players. They have special players. And they have service will players in the running back. Position is just filled with talent but some are really good at catching the ball. Some are really good at is running late with his murray although I don't think he's as bad as pass catching back with some of my thing, David Murray one of those brawler types who run up the middle pound yards out. But you don't think pass catching running back. He's six to just run on the. Middle. But you have guys like. James. White who specialties catching out of the Backfield, and then you have guys like Christian McCaffrey. Alvin Kamara. To a certain extent Zeke, Elliot who can go out there, catch the ball and run at a high clip high-volume in special players and is really interesting. So I just wanted to talk about that but we're gonNA take I break and then coming back, we're going to get into some fantasy football topics discussions. Let's get it. Before we get right back into fantasy gotta talk about chilling out. Have you done it lately? I guarantee you. If you haven't, you're going to want to in the best way to chill out with a ice cold chorus light. That's what I do I reach records light to make you know has made the chill. So Hells Mitchell helps me relax cores wants you to know that no matter what sport is on this fall? No matter what fantasy APP on you know Saturdays are you time to chill? Sunday's our time to do even if your team is playing well this year, there's still plenty of teams and sports on TV that can give you an excuse to chill in drink a beer and why not choose Chorus Light It is refreshing. 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Don't forget to like them on facebook and follow them on twitter visit GSM see PODCASTS DOT COM for more INFO All right we're getting right back into a man, you know what I'm saying. GSM see fantasy football podcast right back at it again. Like craft matic. Shout to OJ the juice man and Atlanta hip hop legend himself. We're talking steelers titans game has been postponed, and then it looked like it was coming back Monday or Tuesday and now has really been postponed potentially looking at week seven week eight as potential time to place the game and the. That's where we are you. We go button buckle up man here we are. So what does this mean for the titans? What does this mean for the steelers right? So The first thing I have to think about here is that. They get another week of rest. For the players who are not in quarantine who are not sitting at home can't do anything with their teammates and stuff they get to watch film inside your workout personally but. For their team as in general, they get the practice get to do things. In their own homes. And I'm sure they're doing online meetings and stuff. I'm really interested to see what exactly if this is some sort of. Advantage on the health scale just from healing up you just get through extra week of wrestling having a bye week but it's not built in you were prepared for it of course, and you still have to play the week but that's just another week Derrick Henry doesn't have to get banged up. As just another week you know that AJ Brown gets to heal up and there's not potential loss on the on the way. Three and So. They don't have a loss on their record, but it's been shaky for the titans. Let's let's be real here. It's been shaky. There's been some good things like you know. Corey Davis looks like a wide receiver I remember when he was drafted the first few years for a bit shaky things didn't look great things were trending in the better directions but we didn't really know what he could be but we knew that he had potential to do stuff and now he's looked okay he's look pretty good in the absence of Aj Brown and that was always a question mark especially since Aj Brown hasn't really played since week one. It's a, it's a good sign. They're often line is banged up a bit of rest would do anybody some good I would assume and although they can't practice I don't think that's going to hurt them for one week. and. We'll see what happens leading on into the rest of their days. For the steelers. Because they just don't get to play, they get to practice an extra week. Right. There's no contact problems there on their front they get the practice for an extra week they get to get jailed in. This would be a good time. To really dive into you steelers, players Deonte. Johnson gets the rest up a little bit after the concussion that's helpful for him and for fantasy owners for him. So that's a good time. That's a good thing for you guys. You've done. Well, you've done well here. This great if you own you know, of course. One of their running backs like a smell or you know there are other running back that traded. You know. It only gets better for you. If you are the team unfortunately, right we don't want any team to get covid and potentially compromise the league right we don't want that to happen. We want football to play throughout the whole seventeen weeks schedule. Playoffs till Super Bowl. Right. That's what we're expecting. That's what I expect to have in. You know I don't think that I don't even think three outbreaks like this where potentially slow the league down because it looks like they've prepared for this to happen and it doesn't look like it's just a one time thing that they prepared for. This is going to be something that they're going to try and mitigate as hard as possible, which is why they came down hard on all the coaches two weeks in a row about fines about wearing masks because they have to make this known that they are serious about their covid precautions and keeping the season alive in alive and well. And although the no fan stuff is a bit weird and the PA stuff is the bid shading and it Kinda takes your the game. Sometimes, the football for the most part has been football. You know we still get mad of the refs. We still get excited about big plays. Now, of course, you'll see stuff and you'd be like, wow, the fans would go crazy over this and that hurts, but it's absolutely better than nothing in my right so This does help. The steelers though at the bottom line I think it gives them extra week of rest and for a quarterback who is not a spring chicken take it from me who a guy who watches a quarterback who was forty two years old try to throw the football. It helps when they get a little bit arrests a little bit more reps with their receivers in group and steelers look really good. Their defense looks really good in a one week not banged up helps of course you never know injuries as much chance anything else. But I do think extra rests is not a bad thing. So that definitely helps them in the long term. What does this mean for? Everybody else in the fantasy world though because just means you don't get Derrick Henry that just means you don't get Deontay Johnson or you don't get Juju Smith Schuster. Or Been Ralph Burger or you don't get Corey Davis even for me. I don't have Corey Davidson my flex anymore. What did I have to do? What do I do? How do I survive this? This is the end of all ends end of my days it's not it's not my days it shouldn't be or I was not prepared so. Here's some guys immediately. On waivers at least right now, it's Thursday. So was look who's in my Thursday waiver wires right now for available players that you can put flex Let's say flex for now. Let's talk about the titans to help replace because Juju is probably. Too, and that's going to be really tough to replace. So hopefully, you have guys on your bench that you're not to hurt by. But for the guys that Corey Davidson such maybe have them in your flex or something like that which in case. You have a couple of wide receiver options. Are there You have some Zach Pascal who you know he's shown something they haven't always been great. He only got two receptions last game but. It wasn't the best. Kind of showcase when you think about it. he led the team member outs and. Clamped deepest average target but he didn't do much damage that the receiver and but the bears struggling against wide receivers general and the moment but. It doesn't look like this is the game for Zach Pascal. But if you need a body, he's out there if you're looking for a guy. To burn up the, you know tear up the joint as I should say. There isn't one that you're going to find your right now like those guys aren't here. You're kind of play hot potato and just keep in mind. This is not to replace somebody WHO's injured. That's the first thing. Keep in mind. This is not for injury purposes. This is not to replace somebody who was out for most for weeks. This is as far as we're GONNA know for right now this this is a one week stint. So you're renting a player off. For. One. Week. To replace some sort of value. And that is tough. When especially if you're a guy who is low on wide receiver depth, it can be really tough for you and you might have to make some hard choices like in my league. Scotty Miller is on waivers keep in mind I picked up Scotty Miller and week to I dropped him after that someone else picked him up they dropped him why because Tampa? Tom Although we still there's still might be hope for skied Amila granted he got. Three. Receptions for eighty three yards in week three but he's not scoring touchdowns. He hasn't scored one touchdown and his touches have been up and down as far as receptions. It's not like he's out here tearing it up here he's getting. No looks at the touchdown ratios is all going to Mike Evans even though he's not really big yardage right now and also guiding Miller is questionable to play. Because There's just so much going on he a logical candidate, of course, 'cause Chris Godwin is a bit hobbled with a hamstring injury from week three, but he's dealing with his own hip and groin issue. So if he starts week for, you might get some upside but just keep my hamstrings. I'm sorry hamstrings groin injuries are kind of like hamstrings when you pull something like that, it just gets rough and then you have Mike Williams out there for the La chargers and you already know if you're messing with that things are bad. My waiver is as far as if you're going to look at the flex position maybe. Mary might be shot because. As. We can see if the saints really understand what they can do here I think we'll take Murray might start getting some more touches as although. He isn't getting the touchdown looks because just to be quite frank. There touchdown numbers like they've been going to. They've been going Alvin Kamara for the most part but really they haven't been down in the red zone to run the ball at the goal line as much as you would think. And let's his Murray outside of the La. Or the Las Vegas. Raiders. That's so we'd say Las Vegas Raiders. They have didn't get over, he's been having fifteen touches first game twelve touches. The third game he had three in week two out large game. He's getting basically around thirteen fourteen touches per game. That's a pretty decent volume in the back system that involves someone as high volume of abuses guy as Alvin. Kamara. If you just need a little bit of point man that could get you done. That could be there for. Let's move on to what might be on your bench. So for me. What I have to do I have Corey Davis on bench covid. Related benching. Now my team. Has Been reconstructed after. Draft. To really help myself not being a bad situation. I made some trades but have DAK Prescott Album Kamar Daryl Henderson Junior Kenny Golladay De'andre. Austin Hooper. WHO This point? I'm not sure if he's playing but I think he is he doesn't look like have any injury concerns. That I Have Emmanuel Sanders in my flex currently that may change. But I have him in my flex. Defense in Gregory Line Kicker. So I have a few bench options here I've been stockpiling wide receivers. Just to see who pops off because I like a lot of these potentials. Preston Williams I could start him right now they have Emmanuel Sanders. Projected to get six points I understand why that is right because he manual sanders and the first two games he hasn't really done much but he did score a touchdown in week three I'm sorry score a touchdown in week three he did nothing week to we all understand that but at the end of the day. He's only getting like four catches at most per game so far that's not the best numbers. Right, and if I had better flex options I'd probably put him out there but my flex options at this point. Katie Hamblur who plays tonight Not, a good look I don't want anything to do with their Denver defense right now until drew lock is back. Or the. Denver team. I Have Chenault junior from the Jacksonville Jaguars who gets even just finds a way to get about ten points per game. No matter what even if it's not, it's going to do they use them as a Swiss army knife player. Another one tastes them hill. Weird guys. But you know I got to see more before he even touches the starting lineup. I have. Anthony Miller via trade from somewhere else he scored last week but I have to see more of him getting involved in the passing game. You only had two receptions last week he did drop a touchdown technically on the same drive so. That might be probably did play. ATLANTA. Atlanta's pass defense horrific when you know against Detroit Detroit pass defenses in the best you know what I'm saying so. He did nothing against the giants. What can you do? Cry They play against Indianapolis. we'll see what happens. But, that's my situation they were. Corey Davis. What comes Ju just hope you drafted well why you're not gonNA replace Jews production and that's just the end. All be all of that just close your eyes and just break but we're going to take another break here and come back and we're GONNA talk some. What does week for bring for us sort of things coming up GMC. Check out the show that's built on the MMA from UFC two extreme cage fighting. They got the fights covered check out the GSM. 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Well, first thing on my list here of what does wing wing what does week for bring hopefully, wings that'd great Sunday hit up some wingstop. Not. Wing stop some wing spots. I'm not a big fan of wingstop personally their wings kind of weird. Their prices are funky. Here's one of the small little tidbits about me that I believe about wing culture right. So when you go to a chicken wing place. The prices should reflect the reason ability of what the wing number count is. Do not come up in here and tell me Oh yeah. Eight wings for ten eleven dollars then move up to like twelve for like thirteen. That's ridiculous. No. There are six piece. For Six. Ninety nine. There is a ten piece. For nine eighty. Roundabout. Ten Ten dollars with tax, and then of course, get fries will be around eleven. Fifteen and moved to twenty or you move from sixteen to twenty. Some people differently. That's the way it is. Don't do this whole. Eight piece for ten eleven dollars it get out of here. You're out of your mind out of your mind wingstop change it. Anyway. For Week. Four. Might be potentially. The last Adam Gates jets game. For All of us, not just his career but for all of us who share the pain, we might not have to sit here and watch the jets deal with Adam Gates will that erase the jets problems. Probably not they have a lot of work to do but it might be the best thing for their. Two Year into his third year quarterback Sam, darnold. Right this is third year it's If we look at this from a Baker Mayfield perspective right Baker Mayfield has all the weapons in the world got drafted at the same time right and unfortunately. Sam Darnold has not been blessed with the type of talent surrounding him as Baker. Mayfield has make me feel a lot of heat. You Know Sam Donaldson have any commercials our national media can make full does he was more of a personality guy then Sam Donald came leak to be you know the biggest thing that came out about Sam Darnold in recent memory of courses the seeing ghost on the on the field and I still think Sam darnold how the chance to be a good quarterback in the NFL. Is just that we've seen it time and time again now. That arm gaze just isn't the guy that he thinks he is. I. Don't know anybody who thinks Adam. Gates guy he thinks he is. This is ridiculous. I guess is not. A coach? Adam Gates does not get a well I'm gay doesn't know how to deal with personalities thing. That's the biggest problem. If he went to college, he might be able to get away with stuff. He wants even then his XS and os just aren't working. I don't care the jets in the past three years of drafted some talented individuals they've gotten solid individual they've been burned right? They've been burned unfortunately. Right? They've had some bad times with defensive like you know their defensive had injuries if our guys not being able to pan out right of it hurts is fun. But at the same time, they've had guys who look serves Robinson is like a top fifteen wide receiver and fantasy right now on the bathroom. That's that's meaningful. That is meaningful stuff. Of course Jeremiah was already good there am before the injury he was going bananas on the Seahawks and see our defense was already struggling but at least he had a winning culture there. Let's look at Devante Parker. Right he leaves Devante Parker. He has his best career year as a starter. And it still looks like he's going to be doing better and better without Adam Gates in his life we've seen this time and time again as soon as Adam gays leaves an organization or you leave him better things or soon to come. Right, even in a Baker Mayfield Cleveland browns situation fiasco. Right We still have guys. Like Preston Williams we still have guys like Jarvis Landry. We just there's so many players that get away from that engaged system and is much better for them. As human beings, they just look happier Adam Gates doesn't make anybody. Happy. There's not one good thing people have said about gays. Whereas it at the having seen the you know that gays he's about to lose his job piece but here's what he might. Bill Bryant gets a lot of you know he's a good coach. He hasn't had access the knows he can do this. Adam Gates doesn't get any of that. The jets have had two of the worst offense a scrimmage yards numbers back to back years. When you go the dolphins, he was twenty eight and scrimmage yards offensively per game per play it was it's horrifying. There's nothing good. There's nothing. And you're meaning to tell me that this game. Win Or lose with a win. This game is supposed to Save Adam Gates job. There is just not it's not possible is not possible. You're not maximizing your, you know your quarterback, you're young quarterback, the guy who's supposed to be building a franchise around. Sam Darnold has regressed this year looks bad. It is bad. It doesn't just look bad. The numbers are bad. It's horrible. He doesn't have a lot of help you know the guy who drafted this year Denzel or Denzel mims he's not very healthy right now he's a rookie you can't depend on this. At all times all different points today this is just a bad time latium bell hurt and the coach doesn't like him right? The codes never wanted them. It's not good. It's not good. Trade traded away the best player not good is no. Nothing there man nothing there. We look up Sam darnold stats right now. And I read them. You're gonNA see some horrendous numbers. September, twenty seven versus the colts. Fifty eight point six, completion percentage hundred, sixty, eight yards one touchdown three interceptions forty seven passer rating. It's the forty niners on the twentieth. One hundred, seventy, nine passing yards one touchdown no picks ninety passer rating still about loss. Sixty percent completion percentage against the bills in the first game. Turned it. Fifteen yards. One interception one touchdown. The ratings were better overall that game was not one of from the start. It's not good though. It's not good Sam Donaldson not played well, if you watch the jets. The stats don't vote. Well, three touchdowns four interceptions. For reference we have guys in the League throwing twelve, thirteen, fifteen touchdowns in the first three weeks of the season folks are cooking. Offenses or cooking. This Offense number to look at this. Now, let's keep this in mind. He has five hundred in sixty two yards told all. In the season. Three weeks. He ever just five point nine yards per attempt. Par tamped this isn't like drew brees area numbers, right? The six air yards numbers, right? This is per attempt. This was horrendous. This is horrendous horrendous. Adam gaze has to go. Snow this this has become an Adam gaze has to go party. Right. We're almost this segment almost but Adam gays asked to go just offered those numbers alone. All of those numbers alone Adam gays must go. This is horrendous. I have to I just have to firmly believe that they have to be able to turn this around any moment in time. Last year they went seven and six they started off when Sam Darnold came back. They put off some wins. They got some wins together. This is not good Rav. This is horrible horrible. Just Pretty bad. He has a bad interception percentage. It's just he had a long pass like had a longest pass was sixty nine yards you take away. This is even looks even worse. He averages. You know his average charge. is adjusted yards gained per pass attempt is four point six. And yards game pass completion is nine and a half. It's just not great. Is Not. Great. He has no weapons. You know we understand that he's had a tough time, but this is not a guy that looks like. Who should be where he is right now? And I think a new coach could breathe some life into him man. There's no way what the talent that he is showcased in previous games and things like that. He can't be. Josh Allen type of tiered Morandi Josh. Allens, tear has the do more with just physical attributes than his arm telling me his arm talent is through the roof but. His accuracy was always a question I think Sam Donaldson potentially be Acura quarterbacking arm talent is pretty crazy to. Can't run as well, but he can move. Is just. This is this depresses me I'm no jets fan but I have to say. The jets have the most depressing situation in the NFL right next to the giants, the New York team me embrace talked about this. The New York teams have had some pretty bad situations right now. Right, at least Washington can cling on the fact that their defense look great chase young looks really good. He looks like a guy who's going to be a supreme defensive end talent in this league and honestly their team the way. Doesn't look horrible enough to where you have to make big changes. The quarterback thing might come along at any point at any point. Right Joe Borough on the bengals. there. Okay? Realistically we're GonNa, talk about it in a second but realistically. The job role lead bengals very possibly. Could have been. To two and one at this point. And they could be looking at three and one. It's very possible. They could have been that they're what they should be one one in one on all reality. That often appear call that stopped the mingles from taking the win. Against the chargers. That hurt them right but. You know you win some. You lose some you can't. Cry Beside about certain things that always ends up not going your way all the time because then the day you are what your record says you are they have not won a game they have a tie though but who cares right whatever? It is. There's just no. You've thought Jaguars by projection was Jaguars was supposedly the worst team in the league. It's not even close man it's not even close not even close. We're talking about. not, even six hundred yards passing. That's no way I. Sam Darnold Fault. I mean there's some probably. Not, the most. Polished. Young talent. In the League we know this but there's no way. Six not six hundred yards. How is you can't even make that up? How do you make that up? You think I'm getting upset. Because this is you look at the numbers initiative shocking. Shocking stuff. Shocking stuff here. Shocking stuff like if we look at the New York jets rankings. In the NFL. You'RE GONNA see some bad stuff man. You're going to see some horrendous. Horrendous numbers like if you look at fan like football outsiders right look at team efficiency rating. Is The jets at thirty one denver that thirty two they lost their quarterback two weeks ago. And they play each other tonight this is what we have for Thursday night football this horrendous it's not great. Basically. The jets are the worst team in the League Denver is hurt all over the place. It's very unfortunate. He lost a lot of weapons and they lost their starting quarterback. They should not be this bad. The jets shouldn't be this bad either. But this is the reality it's unfortunate display. Or lack thereof of talent man it's just not great so. If it was me. How I feel out gays has gone no matter what this game is winner laws because this is just unacceptable stuff you can't beat this and you've done it for multiple years now, right this isn't like some some bedridden Oh man you know disc locked season out we're just going to grind it out now man, this is bad. We write back GMC fence football podcast will finish it out after this break. 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It might be at thirteen and three season. Who knows I don't know. But this is where it happens. This is where we see it right? Because, they played a lions. The lions offense we looked. Solid but I'm not sure if that's the test against. The Arizona Cardinals defense or a testament to their offense. Of course, they got Kenny. GALEOTTI back as a big target. That's the guy that you want back. If you are the lions be cooking one of the interesting things is they don't use the Andrea swift or carry on Johnson. Much oftens right now is been all ap all day it's been. A weird ride as far as they're running back situation goes and I'm sure that brings a lot of people different fantasy pain I'm so I'm sorry for bringing that up, but it kind of has to be brought up. The same run defense is still solid in my opinion, but we'll get some shot in the foot is that they can't stop anybody on third down they could not stop third down if their life depended on it. If they had every member train tracks and it was stop a third. Don't know if it's getting stopped. Sorry data's folks saints can't do it man it's tough and it's really put up our shut up time right now the saints loses and go one out of three or one out of four. You know go one in three on season is getting to some darker territories. We're starting to see some shades of the seventy nine years out here defensively and I'm not a big Fan we get no pass rush. Right? We have no pass rush right now. There's late we played our super bowl week one. We got tired of hearing everybody talk about Tampa Tom and we wanted to make a show so. Unfortunately. I'm not too certain that this is not going to be a shootout. So I, think the saints have good opportunity here to showcase the get some to really get some. Momentum going get a good win here to right the ship. Of course, they were righted to the variant of the packers ending the day. It was a tough out they lost and it was not fun for anybody involved in that loss. the them hill fumble will really hurt them defensively. They just couldn't stop us all got Dinkins dunked the whole way through they couldn't stop. These play action bootlegs all day until it literally just took them out, took them the bed in. That was the problem he was embarrassing performance in the defense led by Dell. Then is Eilan and Cam Jordan. Am Marshon Lattimore and tomorrow Davis. Has Not looked strong. It looks very weak and this is the question mark and they turned around. So can their defense turn it around? And turn it into a you know something trending upwards or is it going to be one of those things that just? Honestly, just gets worse as the season goes along until it gets better and I'm hopefully. I'm praying for saints fans out there cause it's getting ugly folks are coming all different types of ways is not looking good. But I hope it turns around so. If you look at the team defense right. As a hold, the saints rank through three weeks as the twelfth ranked defense, which is not horrible. Bright, not horrible, but they were ranked tenth last week. Their defense like the DVD away is. Negative two point five. And their past defensive ranked is twenty first. They're rushing defense is six. So that's all you need to know. This is horrendous. Now granted away and defensive ability you know defensive rankings can be a little bit funky right now and football outsiders. The Indianapolis Colts have the top ranked defense in Devi away through three weeks. Tampa. Has Second Pittsburgh is third. Washington is for San Francisco V. You know there's some funky nece in there but. Indianapolis as top path defensely having necessarily pay they haven't necessarily played some guys who throw the ball heavily. And they had the twelfth best run defense. Tampa Bay has the third ranked pass and fifth ranked run defense ten busy I really good on paper. Pittsburgh the best, I've seen physically. Yeah. I test stuff right if we're going to do that test of. Pittsburgh amazing. San. Francisco was ranked seven seven and they put out forty percent of their salary cap right now that's a testament to their drafting and their GM and all that stuff put. You know they're still trying to find a way. Even in all of this disarray that rhyme to bit. But the Saints Defense they have to turn around and this is Sunday to do it. And obviously, it's the right team to do. It gives them some chances because the. Alliance aren't the strongest defensive unit. So their offense can get cooking, and then hopefully you know with the offense now going in three and outs all the time the defense is not to be on the court or on the court on the field all the time so that would help. The the next question mark. So we have a texans defense virtually Minnesota offense. Minnesota looked solid offensively for the first time in three weeks. Last week guest Tennessee boot was it because Tennessee's defense look shaky? We don't know. We'll find out this week though I think the Texans defense is not as bad as it seems, but they're rushing defense has been talked about as kind of a weak point that got manhandled against the chiefs. But honestly, what are you supposed to do against the chiefs? Offense and then they played against the Ravens who identity the run the ball. MINNESOTA. Is An identity that runs the ball until you expose yourself and get beat down deep with Adam dealing and now Justin Jefferson has kinda caught fire. So this is going to be a big time game for both teams to make some decisions who is really struggling who can get caught on fire Kyle Rudolph caught a pass. In a touchdown, he looked better. The offense might be catching back up to speed and awesome. Minnesota might be one of those teams where we look back then the day they were really hurt and they come on near the tail end of the season and it might get wild card slides very possible. But at the same time. You say about the Texans Texans in Minnesota have equally as bad starts in my opinion is just that Minnesota's looked. Really bad and. The Texans are just kind of no-man's-land they played their best football offensively last week against a really really tough. Pittsburgh defense that is something to keep in mind you're not going to be playing nearly as tough defenses might be one of those times or will fuller goes off or maybe one of those times Willfuller is nowhere to be found. Willfuller is an EMA of fantasy football. We don't know. So start with caution, place him in the lineup. With. Caution. So. Let's look at. You know some defenses again, right Houston in DVD A. Has a ninety ranked. Pass defense they have the twenty four ranked rushing defense. That's not great. Not. Is Not good right? When you are. Facing teams like the chiefs. In the Ravens back to back that does not necessarily bode well in your favor. So those numbers are pending to me I really think especially now ravens game the first half. They showed a lot of guts they were getting back. They're doing some things to Lamar Jackson with at the same time I thought that. It was Napoles. Your will because they just don't want to run. They don't want to throw the ball in Baltimore and you saw that Monday night. They they just don't throw the ball. And is not great and that Texans game. Keep in mind right. Arm Sorry, and the chiefs game. Through three quarters. They did through fifty hours worth of passing in three quarters. Of course, that's just too hard to do in compete with the chiefs but every other team in the league. Dominating because defensive that ninth and you're rushing attack is just that creative and you can just do so much and you have Lamar Jackson who was a literal human being walking cheat code I mean have at it but. You're man, it's just not looking great. It's not looking too hard. Minnesota's defense. Thirteenth ranked in passing. Twenty third ranked in rushing. So if you have David Johnson, this might be your time I've been saying this for a while I think the Texans could be solid as long as they don't go down. More than a possession because if you take away their running game and you force in the past and you start getting into those pass, you know the passing downs more times than rushing downs. You are going to have a hard time if you're a Texas fan or you have anyone if you're David Johnson owner or maybe even a A owner of running back on the Texans not named David. Johnson. You're going to have a tough time because. They game script him out, and the sad thing is you know, Dave Johnson was a really good service will running back in the passing game in. Arizona that's just not something that's happening right now getting there so. I just don't. I don't know what is game takes you. But just be warned you been warned here. That if Donald Cook gets going everybody else gets going on the offense. If you own any Minnesota players, the way you want to get going I and cook because everybody else. WE'LL FEAST OFF OF THAT In the Texans area of course, you definitely want the running game to be serviceable because that opens up everything else as a person. WHO players like? You know actions, Mr Jordan Atkins I would like to see him get involved. Right? That would be helpful. But at the end of the day. A win is a win and they're going to be looking to play to win. So I don't really think Jordan Napkins might get involved. There's been tied in have been weird this year man let me tell you titans have been real weird and I don't really know what else to what else to bring that up. I just felt like there's no good tight ends besides like to. And everything else was a toss up beauty year. You know I look at waiver wires right now guarantee you Jimmy Graham is not on the waivers anymore. He is not. I guarantee you. Jimmy Graham is not going to give you twenty four points this coming week because that's just what it is now. That's who he is as a player injuries and is just not bid. He's never been the same player since. Since he left New Orleans, I should say in Seattle never really used them because the rush cook or let Russ Cook era didn't start until this year. I, wonder what would happen to let him cook earlier? But moving on from that, we have a Bengals, I is Jacksonville game which I think might be very, very juicy for bengals players owners right Jacksonville has thirty second ranked pass defense in the league. Start Start Start. Start. Stardom just start them. You have a good time just start them the rush defense knife they can stop the run. So if you have up of course. Joe Mixing that might be a bad play for you. Might be. But that pass defenses so bad. The Joe My have himself a game. He really might put up three passing touchdowns I would start him immediately. I would start him immediately right now. Thank me later if it works if it doesn't I'm sorry it's just the life ago the pain and you know pain has no sense of stopping itself. That's just what it is. Baby. You just never know when it's GonNa. Stop the pain train stopped for no one man and that's just where we're at. But I like to say thank you for listening to the GMC fantasy football podcast for this week it has been. 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Knockouts and 3 Counts  Episode 120 Sam Adonis

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Knockouts and 3 Counts Episode 120 Sam Adonis

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT visit. Www dot I'd pass Detroit Dot Com for more information. This is Dr Western. I'm telling YOU KNOCK OUT TO THREE. Counts podcast bathing checkout because body like me. They're the real deal Roberts we know. Needless gaffes shoot up. Dams Bring Up Honored World Television Champion Aka saint-barths Tibor the baddest champion. You've ever seen you listen to knock out some three UPDO everybody this is Kyle. You are listening to knock outs and three counts as we told you we've got a very special guest with us tonight before we get him real quick story. Chill media. Let everybody to know where they find. You could find me on twitter at six three the EV in the on Instagram at allstate. No several while where Michelle. You check out the reality news of. Basal talk all kinds of wrestling type. It right now is basically everybody from. Wwe and fire right now. Talk about that later on today. When we can find me what accuser you can find me at Detroit. Knockout at Detroit L. K. O U T. Make sure you follow the show at kill. Free seed pod all of our social media's if you're watching this you probably already do but make sure you're subscribed on. Youtube we can find US everywhere and without any further ado. We've got the return of the homey El Rudo Day last cheek. Samhadana's how you doing brother. Man. I'm man I appreciate you guys take some time out of your Boring Cape. Cod has listening whatever it is. You're doing it through this court. Gene's schedule to talk to me about some wrestling and some happenings in just Shoot the she's knits. If you will for a little bit and it's always a good time like I said I know we've got plenty to Clinton to cover with all this quarantine stuff Let them know where they can find you on all your social media. I am Real Sam Donaldson instagram twitter. That's basically all I have to work with at this point. I'm basically thirty five years behind the Times I'm terrible at social media. I don't like it it's just. It is what it is is a crucial tool if I knew how to use it. I'd probably be the most famous man in pro wrestling at this point but I don't play I don't play along. I don't play well with others. I don't play the game so Yeah I've always wanted to be arrested in nineteen eighty two not two thousand twenty so I guess it's causing me one way or the other shit while. At least we know at the very least. At least we know that. Even though you don't like people you like us from knockouts and three councillors. Plus they're always. I've always had fun guys and actually kind of bums me out because as far as I know that that this year's allow luce has been cancelled or postponed newt's why year in my yearly Detroit. Visit so I can't imagine in the next three weeks. We're going to hurry and make something happen for Cinco de Maya weekend so I guess if I can't see you in person. The next thing is the not Gaza. Three cows podcasts in person live stream twitch video personification message board whatever he's a pretty much covered all of them so as as everybody knows man. We're going through the shit storm with this whole coronal Harris. So what have you been doing? the past time here since all this Corona Virus. Believe it or not. I've busier now than I've ever been my entire life because I I pride myself on being a bit of a hustler and wide. I realize most wrestling events canceled. I heard the radio ad for Amazon is hiring drivers and I made a phone call and Once about four of my bookings cancelled and I realized next month could be kind of difficult. I started delivered. Packages delivered smiles. If you will and I've been driving for Amazon which absolutely sucks I've been I guess it is. It is working for a company like that. You know they take care of you but I've been enough for the last eight years of my life to be traveling. The world is a internationally renowned megastar pro wrestler in some corners of the world and now to half the wake up at five. Am to go deliver packages and Dodge dog shifts. Take it is what it is. So here's the question. Do they got you delivered in your own car. Are you driving a pro master? I drive a pro Mazda man. I'm driving Amazon bad. I got the uniform on. I actually decided that maybe when I come back you know there was. There was Nails which is a convict big boss fan was on the Amazon piece of ASS. So did they certainly send you to training for all that because we had when I learned how to drive the pro master for the Post Offers? You had to be able to drive that you had to drive. Lv The FAFB. All that shit so he had to go through a whole driver's training thing but they make you guys do too. I did too two days of training classes than I was on the road so I just thought I love it. It's it's not for me. It's if anything it's humbling. You know it makes you really appreciate what you have. It makes you really miss wrestling but a especially right now at the point where. I'm just losing my mind I watch. I watch wrestling constantly right now and I don't know if you remember talking to pass but I'm a big fan of the history. I only really watched old stuff and I. I've been catching up on everything. I've been listening to these podcasts. And just here in history just I miss it more than ever. So Luckily There's Bluetooth van and I can keep myself entertained for the eight or ten hours of behind the wheel amen. That's when I was out there. I had headphones on all the time. I know they told you not to. But I'd be listening to podcasts. And every every other fucking thing because man even though it's cool to be out there on a route like by yourself that's yet Loki. Gets Boring Food I have. I have my radio cranked up to eleven all the time. And it's so loud that I make sure I leave my door open when I'm delivering a package and I could hear whatever listening to some lucky. I've got it figured out and honestly you know like if if I lost the job tomorrow I would just figure something else out. You know. It's not like I hold this to dearly but I do have the hustle and make some money somehow but I've been able to make the most of it and just listening to knowledge along the way. So what do you got? I've been flapping my roommate. What you actually. Kinda touch south known as anyways. You mentioned that you may come back as the Amazon. He's right you'd never know it depends on what kind of viral marketing scam. We get Iraq lesson companies now and I'm always looking for new sponsors. So Amazon wants to throw a couple of hundred K. towards my wrestling company. The maybe I'll be the episode driver. Do job every once in a while. The question I'm going to ask you is that this is a really political show. We talk about politics. But you're known for your pro trump. Jimmy so with the election year is kind of up in the air. You know you might have four more years of trump or you might have to find sockanosset to do so. I question you do is which one would you be looking forward to doing. Trump thankful for more years or which embrace the change in a look for someone else to do Amazon. Honestly I haven't done the trump gimmick in about two years Really with on Mexican shows. No I work a lot of New York. La Texas Lucia shows. That's the only time you see it. So I guess maybe one out of eight or nine bookings is fat and I assume that that makes it relevant enough. In my in my opinion it's the smallest percentage but you know. Of course there are. People only see that you know again when you're you're pulling people strings if they're only remember the bad side maybe. I it's more relevant than I realized but honestly I've been really lucky and in creating opportunities all over the world. I wanted to make sure that. That's not what define me. I don't ever want people to say. Oh he only got over because he did a political gimmick you know. It was such a small portion. I lost my hair. Negra cash it's cash is the next city and then I worked three tours of Japan without gimmick you know. I work all over the United States without gimmick honestly believe it or not it most places I've been in the last year I've actually teetering more baby-faced him last time we saw that Last year in we saw you trump. Most certainly were not a baby face there. One of my favorite pictures evers from last year's Where there's a woman in the front row flipping me off at me flipping her off at the same time. The cameras spotted Golden But it's one of those things where I think most wrestling fans you a Lotta Times. They know what they're getting into and a lot of times you know they play along. They blew the. He'll cheer the face or whatever but after a certain amount of time there's a certain respected either grows or declines for example if you're fed if you're if you're told that this guy's the best wrestler and he's going out there and he's not having the best matches after six monster year. You're not gonNA cheer for him the way that you did when you were you know introduced through a sea exact opposite heel which is what's luckily in my I think's happening People have been sold. Sam Anonymous degrading. Oh He's a bad guy you're gonNA hate him and they see it in the hate it but after the year of performances and seeing what I do eventually they develop a respect in say he no at that guys actually pretty good. I'M GONNA tear so since I've come back to the United States about two years ago it seems like I'm kind of teetering more towards baby face and especially since my home promotion if you will my my bread and butter here in. Pittsburgh is is basically a you know my friends and family. That's kind of seems to be taken over. But if who I am and what I'm becoming in in a weird way never thought it said this three years ago but I I. I think I'm Kinda more of a baby face in two thousand twenty but who don't you never know about that man? You were talking about Russell Rex for anybody. That hasn't seen it yet. Man You guys been packing the shit out of that place in Pittsburgh and you even had an appearance from our home the fro gun so let us know a little bit about Russell and let people know what they can see. If they're in the Pittsburgh area and how that came about and how you turned up promoter is wow. It's really funny because I basically was out of the country for seven years and I came home to Pittsburgh and all my friends family their friends on facebook and instagram. Everybody sees me knows what I'm doing and you see holy crap. My Buddy Sam's famous in Mexico. This do these Japan. Every time you hear about Samhadana's the wrestler you think you know I. It's it's major league. Why was doing a lot of independence here in Pittsburgh that we're just small time independence? There is nothing exciting about it. You know you can see me every New Mexico in front of ten thousand people and then you can see me in high school gym and Alok Windy Show. I hate that I was ashamed. Invite my friends and family to these shows. You know because it was almost like degraded. So a lot of things lined up at the venue. We have the REX theatre The people involved everything fell into place to basically say you know what Penton Phoenix need to come to Pittsburgh. These are my brothers. I see him on the road all the time. They're my dudes if they're coming to Pittsburgh. I gotta be the weather Brigham. 'cause I'm GonNa let me Andy Guy that's just you know paying their their wage and just don't know anything about these guys. They're my boys. We decided to sort this out. Put this show on pack the House and we've just rolling ever since last one. We did was legit clear code. Sell out which means you know. We were told no more people in this building. So you know we're really on a high. Everything's as good as it can be up to this point. I really hope things are going to be lifted soon. As of right now we have a date confirmed for May twenty eighth and I'm praying that we can get this off the ground because the rex theatre which is actually a famous your Pittsburgh tassell without work for the last month and a half All their canceled. Everything's actually You know been canceled on their end. And they're hurting so if we are able to get this show may twenty eighth off the ground. We're GONNA do a benefit for the staff. We're GONNA make sure. The building covers some of their costs. Is they may cost some missed out on and I just moved forward. I'm a full blown bit. By the promoter. I loved performing in my hometown. I love the crew we have. We've kinda great wrestlers in the door where US Mexican wrestlers were using Detroit's pro-gun were also using John. Dory will definitely get bottle out there soon. Hell the Nice thing is. I'm actually out there on the streets collecting Alan. I'm seeing is in every corner of the world based on what I like about pro wrestling and luckily this is my vision. This my baby and I'm able to you know get some good stuff going and the Pittsburgh's actually really enjoying it. So we'll see where it goes. So what does that aspect of You know the whole promoting thing done for you because like you said you said you're out on the pavement pounding at trying to get all these guys your hand picking the talent. Was that something for you like with this being your show. Where you real selective with who you WANNA bring in and do you want is it like. Is it a weird thing for you being on the other side being a guy that's doing well what people don't know is? I was probably more on the promoting side than I was on the wrestling side when I was young kid. My Dad was a motor on the so from about thirteen on. I was backstage promoting. That's what I did before I could lace up my boots. How do you be a part of the restaurant business you learn? You put up posters. You Study you book. Whatever so I would have a pretty good Visited idea what I like about wrestling and the entire time. I've been interesting business in wrestling. I've always been learning the tricks trade. I've always asked questions. Most wrestlers don't even realize questions I. I've spent time working for Brian. Dickson. England. And you don't understand how. Mexico Japan. I pay attention to little tricks in here there. The promotion aspect the wrestling business. If you will I've always been fascinated by and that's why you know I've had four shows and at the point you know for shows here in Pittsburgh Rex. But for shows in we've made more movement to annoys than Pittsburgh Recipe made in the last twenty years deb. What she got that. I can see you over there. So what someone? It's not a Pittsburgh area in wants to the show. Is there any online distribution are like that? Yeah we've done that. We've done live streams obviously ask show we actually just released for. Free Online There's links just that we've actually gone a different routes because I think wrestling so oversaturated. There's so many companies out there. It's really hard to be seen because you have to look for it. We just kinda symbolized it just went with the Hashtag instead of having a website instead of having all these social media platforms Hashtag resurrects. You look for it. You find it you click on it. It's going to be there. The fans are getting involved if you youtube wrestle rex. It's there it's it's it's all around you know. We had the links on live. The live shows is one of because. It's the first time that I've the first independent. I've seen that I've been a part of where a completely third party audience is getting involved. Most of the time. These independent shows a lot of the fans come in film and they WanNa be the one that captures the gifts and they wanna be the one that you know a presents it to the wrestling world this whole thing. No it's not for the wrestling. World is for Pittsburgh so we have people that might not be. They might not have any idea. What a W or CW or ring of honor is they know wwe and they know wrestle rex. It's kind of a local. You know you're almost thinking small to go big if that makes sense instead of greasy w all over again in a way instead of taking over the world by going viral. Let me just get expert hot at all. I want you know. I don't need to compete with any big independent wrestling company. I WANNA make sure. My friends and family are having a blast once a month. So we've got a live feed for you a guy that you probably may know. He's a photographer in Detroit area. Done some stuff in Mexico to Jerry. Gana he said his SAM still tied to see 'em L. L. And would he be open to working in show in Mexico which AAA asking for a friend? I would be totally down for working with AAA. I don't think CONAN likes very much We've had some some miscommunication date since I don't think AAA would like to work with me. But I've AAA I'm not affiliated with Melanie more. I live here Fulltime I work independence you in the USA. I've been traveling for all Japan for the last year or so. I'm down for anything again. I'm just a I focus right now. More will do in Pittsburgh it's weird. I never thought I'd see that point especially at thirty years old. I'm in the best shape of my life. I'm doing more than I've ever done in the wrestling ring. I've enjoying it once again and it's funny to think that you know in a sense. I'm Kinda just take care myself a man. That's that's a good way to beat and I got a question that goes along with that but we've got another question in the live feed gentle gentle act. I don't know if it's Geno or Gino. Donald what the hell it is but general black. Can you teach people how to wrestle? I no I can't if I could be totally honest. I think more qualified to be a teacher at ninety nine percent of professional wrestling coaches. But I refuse to do it because I don't think I ready. I think too. Many people exploited pro wrestling professional wrestling. Doesn't owe anybody anything and the quick fixes. I never made it. I'm not famous. I don't have any money. I'll open a wrestling school. I have never been more convinced that those who can't do teats than and pro wrestling so yes I could teach will. I know I can respect that. So my question for you as you said that. You're you're based out of Pittsburgh. Now you're doing all your stuff out of Pittsburgh. What made you make the change? Was it just wanted to be back around home more because I know you were doing stuff with all Japan and Sam L. L. and all that. So what made you want to come back to the states? I had to run away from my ex girlfriend in Texas. I observe funny. Things question is did she set your car on fire on the way out. Honestly if I wrote a book it would probably become a lifetime movie. I have mine by X. Relationship was the most traumatic and screwed up situation ever. It's so screwed up that it probably would be believed so. Let's leave it at that. I ran away from ex girlfriend. And that's one thousand percents shoots had had had had shot lick with Admiral wait a minute doesn't have podcast surrounding Holy Shit water water. He was ready. He's been out with all right. So here's the question. Do you think you guys have probably seen the main. Since he's drinking white claws. Do you think that stone cold would really be disappointed? If you're drinking white costs out of them I think if White Claus brought twenty years ago stone cold would have done it. I wouldn't Jerry said the less you know. He said thanks. He's GonNa hit you up about About that show. He's talking about a man. I mean no but actually book to get Psycho Clown Right now tentatively on July eleven. So it's supposed to be Psycho cloud with AAA stop baby face against Tim allows top hill from last year? So if it happens it'd be fun but yeah I'm down to work with anyone at any time Yeah you can't you can't There's there's a certain word that begins with P. arrival with politics here in wrestling that you can't get past rings a good question. Tell me what your thoughts are on your matchless cycle clown being that. I've been seeing a lot of him. with M. L. W. lately. So what's what's your thoughts on a match with him. I'm sure you may have already faced before but I know that he likes to get a little crazy. What are your thoughts on that? I've never wrestled him. I'm good friends with both of his brothers. So I don't know I think most of the most the shows I do in the United States against Lucia doors are actually like Mexican shows. They're not ran by American promoters there not foreign at wrestling crowds so It'll probably be the typical. I have my flag. We beat each other up around the arena. And that's about it so I'm excited for fun. We'll probably end up having beers afterwards in that space beyond eight hundred along with that so fill me in on what you've been catching up on because when we were talking via text ahead of this she said you've been watching a lotta wrestling with the obvious. Did you watch Wrestlemainia what you think? I watched one and I went to bed halfway through night too and that was just because I had to work in the morning I thought that I'M GONNA take. Her thing was killer The undertaker in AJ styles thing was probably the coolest thing that would have eased on in forever. I don't watch wrestling. I don't know where to compare it. Right is I don't I don't envy any of those guys. It's so hard to wrestle. In front of quiet crowd everybody worked their asses off. Everybody did is because they could so you know I just feel bad that some people had their their one moment removed. One moment might have been some of those people might never get that caller yet you know and it just sucks to think that you know. I think that what was that that which says that the guy with the beard the fact that ODA oldest like that whole rated the crowd noon that needed to be in front of ninety five million people or whatever so just I it sucks that it wasn't what it could be but everybody works hard and you know it's it's they're again they're working their butts off and I don't envy that position but the show must go on and everybody did the best. They could so good for them. But I gotta I gotTa agree with you. Those words my two favorite things that the whole thing and ironically they were the things that were shot completely away from there were the firefight funhouse and the and the bone yard match to me. Those are the two most entertaining ones. I mean I didn't see the scene thing I didn't see that I just I been meaning to catch up on it but I've been on this. Fm W kick from the nineties right now is every time. I have thirty minutes. I don't WanNa Watch TV network so I hear you. I've been watching some odiaum percent. Mr Gasquet for Yuki all that stuff and I swear I watch more now than I have in the last ten years just because it's you know I'm not getting my normal daily wrestling fix through my career. So what state of mind will house right there. Man Man I live at die boost that when I was about twelve years old. He was my favorite wrestler. It went like this EC. W ruined my life. Because I love this so them I found Anita which introduced me to FM. W which Engineer Smith High Busa and then from bluestone went to saskatoon mood Kabashi all that stuff but O'Neill was the first high tech in and I was just smitten as a kid so it's been so long. My taste has been so refined over the last ten years. I forgot what I gues- joining so now it's been nice this point times to look back. These vapes watching the enjoy some classic wrestling from ninety five to two thousand one watching a high high abusive versus Rob Van. Damme this out in Vegas tagging tagging with Khushi Khushi in the United States man. Some of the best. I've ever say as a mess stuff man so I've been watching all that stuff and I don't know I just missed it so bad. It's killing me man. You don't you don't know what you've got till it's not just just traveling and having something to look forward to. I think that's what it is you know. I've got the point where I was literally just diced. I had have job good diet and exercise everything because next week show is so important. You know I haven't had actually show in a month and a half so you know it's just a little bit. It's a little bit harder to take care of yourself but sooner than later everything back Norman. We'll be looking back at this crazy moment yesterday. We'll talk about that real quick. I mean with us being on quarantine. What are you doing to keep yourself in shape or using a slang packages? I don't know if you can see this right here. Yeah about that. Two hundred fifty bucks. So it's here next to my bed. I'm able to get a good workout in everyday. I'm still in great shape. I've just that I've just a little bit The DIS suffered a little bit. So I'm not as jacked as I was but I'll get back soon. It's just a matter of time but he does train any work. You try not to get too upset because you don't worry too much kill you so that brings up the question of you know you're talking about you know having to work out and having to do things like that for you like what do you how do you see like what do you think. The effect that Corona virus is GonNa have both on the indies and on bigger promotions. Like when you get out of this do you think do you think it's something that the Andes will be able to just pick right back up where they are absolutely got? Everything's changed everything's changed. Everything has changed. There's so many people that have no idea how this is right now. There's so many guys that have been able to make a living for the last two or three years off the independence that will no longer be able to make a living because the merchandise game is what makes the independent level thrives. People don't have that expendable income independent independent wrestling thrives off expendable income gone. People aren't coming back to pay for these shows right now. When they have to pay for their bills and their food that being said a lot of independent wrestling promotions are ran on a shoestring budget. These budgets have been blown through in the past month. Half the independent wrestling companies will return to that means. There's half the bookings for the guys that need twice the money which means all of these guys are gonNA cut their rates of half. Everybody needs their three hundred. Four hundred five hundred bucks are now gonNa be working for seventy five hundred. They're all gonna be fulltime jobs. It's it's a different world right now. So good lack. Prove you're wrong. I hope I'm wrong because I'm one of the guys in that position but I think there were already too far gone of. We kinda talked about before everything kind of starts happening is that I'm worried about the independence was supposed to be in Tampa for Media Week and we were going to go to the line of DC w sheldon of the shelves and those are some of the bigger independence but even those guys you know their whole weekend is where VC. Debbie makes a lot of their money so for the year that the biggest weekend. So how do you recover from that? Now everything has changed like I don't think I don't think people really realize the magnitude of the situation. I on twitter just like you guys. Are I think people think oh when things get back to normal? I hope I really hope that's all I can say so. Another thing you gotta think about do is let people working from home right so people are going to start getting the Houston. Sports GonNa be played in front of empty arenas that a little while and then it starts with our people really gonNA WANNA go out puzzle. This might be the new normal. Might be you know. Football game. Sadie having stadiums now. One wrestler shows in. Now it's it's absolutely insane and and if that's the case Again it's I don't know it upsets me to think about because it does but I. I'm pretty in tune with what I think from what I've seen what I know about. You know traveling cultures economics. Anything in between. It's just going to be different. I've just hoping hoping it gets back soon. I'm I'm lucky it might've been my sense like I said if it if there's one thing I can take out of this as I'm lucky you know that the foundation I've laid with my local wrestler product has really relied too much on the outside so You know who's to say this almost kind of maybe even the playing field a little bits. You're going to have these powerhouse independence anymore. You're not GonNa have these people that are you know that this internet wrestling community. It might not be the thing it might this might be. They say history repeats itself we might be at the beginning of the territorialization of pro wrestling once again. You know it might be too expensive and people might not be the money coming end for these super shows in every city in the fly. These guys here and there you might just have local circuits popping backup. Local independent wrestling might become the new wrestling. You know now that the WB is doing what they're doing that might just be the TV wrestling ended. Hey locally you have these small time shows where local guys do what they do. I don't know you know this is this. I just it's it's really complicated is going to be a lot different but I don't know well I think you've pretty much confirmed what we already know. And it's time to get out of the House and before I ask you about the next question. If newly the house check out the homes a strategy and company realty it can be done virtually right now all the links to all their social media's on our website Kale Tracy product come at Stransky and company. All of our stuff's there. You can find them at two four eight five six three nine four four nine and like. I said they're doing stuff virtually now. You need a crib this house. Housing market is going to be a pain so Issue CRIBS A head. Throw that in there. Real Quick Stransky. I know you're listening Grab promote wrestlers. I know all about plugs a man. Yeah I gotta I gotta I gotTa get it where I can but speaking of getting things in Man. What are your former opponents? Berlin shots got now. Is it Bevanda? Yes he is. He's Watson Right. Now said San such a punishable face L. Hit Me will tell them heel tag team with me in Pittsburgh and we'll kick ass some day so I don't hate him. I'd just like to embarrass him in front of his friends. Go Hey Detroit people. Well Ho- I thought it was a natural reaction Helix right now. So you actually. I actually really have fun over there. So it's tell Josh onto sad. We can't do Lucia this year because I Miss I Miss Saint Andrews Hall in those Dot Dogs Overload. Hopefully Uso this yet man. I was fortunate as great man. That's a great audience everytime honestly my wrestling promotion. Pittsburgh's kind of been a little bit inspired by Saint Andrews Hall because we don't do chairs. We do the standard bowl. Llagas in all these elements came in through my travels. I decide what I like. And that's what we do. That's that's standing room only wrestling show from Saint Andrews all basically what resurrects is an l of having a conversation with someone that I notice. Is that if you look at pretty much every major promotion in the world right now. Los England novice task someone there so you saw located now based you're of course the person that what is it about the crew that they basically taking over the wrestling business. It has nothing to do with what you see. Interesting was put it that way. It's just a group of brothers of has some fun outside the ring and switch. There's a lot of people that you know. Get invited in that club. Big Talk about the click per you. Know the the the there's certain groups that hang out outside the ring and looks and Golden Obvious Group of friends that Party. It just so happens the reason you become a friend with anybody is because you have things in common with your six or seven of the best wrestlers planet. You know whether your friends are not. You're going to be the top wrestling companies. It just happens to have some common ground so having name behind it but yeah they're everywhere man so we got another question for you in the live. Feed it says. Would SAM rather would sand rather russell one super porky size Kennedy till earth? Thirty Kennedy does is super US yet and I don't know what either of those are but I'm sure you do thirty. I would say a candidate I would rather I'd rather fight the Kimani. This is to report for sure that that's a ridiculous question but yeah super porky was was a little bit more violence and crazy than K. Money was so I. I'd rather fight candidate than any day but I beat him up plenty in Mexico but that little son of a gun is heavy. He's GonNa have the same amount of organs and muscle tissue. Is We do these? Two foot nine. So he's jumping off the top rope and it's all compress than compact it did weighs about a hundred and sixty pounds absurd. Heavy little bastard. I've heard people talk about taking that Ah Tapa slash slog. They say it is in his stiff. Hell I've never taken that but I've taken kmart eat jumping off the top rope in arena Mexico and it's pretty dense death so we talked about what we thought with the Andes. And obviously there's been a lot of news Today with Since the XFL went down the hole and all that stuff they've been talking about You know all the cuts and stuff like that like what what effect you think this will have unlike the on the bigger companies man with you still having your brother over there and all that. I mean they dislike go US shit on people. Everything's changed I don't know what else to say. It's it's there's a lot of really talented guys that have been let go today and some of us have been bit by the wrestling bugs for life and some of us will prevail. You know be be around thirty years others will look at. This is the writing on the wall to go find a new hobby. And you something else. You know I don't wish anybody any that. Will I hope it all? These guys can recover from this job. But I know there's a lot of guys on that list will be top stars for years to come so you know you just gotTa wait and ride it out hopefully. Wbz bounces back. Does what they gotta do. But it's definitely an interesting hand to be a wrestler in. I don't know if it's good interesting bad interesting but it's interesting so the funny thing is now kind of conversation among fans are. Oh well now that you know gallows Anderson the garden they can go to. Aws or go to impact whatever it was like are these companies. Want to have the money to be in size. We don't know what's out next. So it's a lot of unanswered questions going on right now. It's a scary time to be a wrestler. So we'll see where it goes in the I don't know I'll be around forever whether people like it or not. I'm too addicted by blood. I think chose me. I didn't choose it so we'll tell you vital said to tell you that he wants to smoke. He said let's run a tag team though comment. I so here's the question man. Do you keep up at all with Emma. May Damn it I was. I was more in them. A two thousand one than anybody in the United States was and then I gave up on it because it became famous. And I'm a social I pissed off with something becomes popular so I gave up a lot of pride in the early two thousands of my dad found UFC. When I was like five years old so I was all in on that but now there's two being too much and I just don't care. Are you to get it whenever you find a local band and they blow up in sorry no so not Madison Square Garden. You don't listen anymore. Probably probably sounds like me to amen speaking speaking bands man. Make sure you guys stay tuned if you guys are watching because in two weeks we've got zoltan bathroom from five finger. Death Punch just thought I'd throw that out there. Make sure you guys are checking it out. We're GONNA be talking Jitsu of all things so it should be interesting. So are you still in there? All right cool I because I so I've got full disclosure so I got the computer screen open so on my computer screen. It looks like you guys are talking to on here. Don't sit that my thing a lot. There's a time delay. There's a time delay. Kyle look into heartbreaking heart campau harvey so you mentioned you growing up in Pittsburgh with the CW thing man like there's been. Did you see any of the dark side of the ring? Stop Yeah actually. That's that's my plans. When I get off the phone with you gotTa Watch. Snuck along with my dad you. That's just wild urine odor own. Spoilers promise I got you so my my dad was actually promoted up so he took me. Dc W. When I was seven years old I was. I was in the crowd at that so I don't know if that out of that works me babe the way that I am but W is basically a big part of my childhood. That's what's up man. So the the question with that. Did you watch the New Jack? One I did. I love jackets my boy. So give me your thoughts on that episode and a lot of the things that they kinda like earth with that. Because I knew a lot of it was then some of it. I was like Damn. That shit was wild. Like with old boy at the indy show that he stabbed up. I'm like Dude Jack Jack. Jack is a true professional. Jack is a nice guy. The problem isn't new Jack. The problem is all the idiots interesting business. Should be around New Jack. If you have people that know what they're doing professionals new care of new Jack will do the job do do it needs to do i. Just I don't think Problem as much as the whole wrestling is for everyone movements. That's the problem. Hey I can respect that because you know it just seemed like and then the crazy thing is when they showed like the little reenactment where they're in the jail in their life so if we go on a run and we and we and we do this Mike Man if he does it again he's probably GonNa stab your ass up because he does bring the dude. I don't mind him I. I was actually trying to get him at the last wrestler show but he's he has ankle surgeries. Bendon his acquisition Jackie. Gotcha DEB. You got anything else. When you're booking wrestle wreck shows are you basically look for talent that has a name or people in the Pittsburgh Philadelphia mid West area that are become? I want to create a wrestling show. That is for people that don't like wrestling. I want non wrestling fans to come to a show in say. I don't really like wrestling but damn that was cool because I know wrestling fans will be there either way. Why why would I try to make certain that are gonNA complain about it either way? I'd rather make a thousand people happy that wouldn't care because there's one hundred people were still going to be there and complain about it on the Internet. So I find these guys somewhere across the country and I can say hey. Let's put on a show that's GonNa blow people's minds. I want everyone to everyone everyone in the Pittsburgh to know. Hey there's that we have that Pittsburgh wrestling wrestle. Rex saw his man a Dev. I say whenever this shit ends and they run the next Russell Rex. I say eventually we need to make A. We need to make run. The Pittsburgh grow. I'm always to the steelers game et rex. You guys come to wrestler. Actually be my guests that I'm sure you a couple of good interviews out of it Amen. I'm with it because I was going to link up with you in Chicago at warrior wrestling. It just I was. I wasn't there just me that time. So I kinda I couldn't go from show show in that one and only deal rather appreciated. I appreciate you guys do for me. I'm always here around. It's been nice catching up with these guys so I appreciate. You contacted me and whenever you're ready to do this you let me know Amen. I'm down whenever like I said when you guys get the next Russell wreck show going man. I'm definitely down to check that out. Like I said man like that's been the one thing that's cool for us is definitely not on the same scale. You know what you're doing but like last year I mean. I think that's the biggest thing that I'm missing from like us. You know what this whole corona virus thing is like last year man we went to. I went to Chicago and worked star. Cast three we were in Baltimore and work star cast for and you know just traveling all over the place mainly in New York and shit like that and like I never realized how much I took for granted just enabled to have the ability to do exactly what you just said. Go to these events. Do these interviews. Do you know do all that stuff and it was like. It was such a bummer. Too because We were talking about with Caldeans be which. If you didn't catch the episode you can check it out on our youtube facebook all that stuff from ESPN BOXING. But then people that were doing the Wrestling with stereotypes. That was there and we were talking with him about it. And it's like an dude like just having the ability to go and work somebody's events and go out and check some shit out that more than anything man. I'm not taking for granted the ability to be able to go do some shit because the fact that you can't right now is crazy dude. I was complaining a lot because I all the promoters have to buy my flights so I don't really get to collect as many air miles as you'd think because it split among seven different airlines past year I was. I was burnt out. I hated airports. I was at the point where I'm like screw this. I don't WANNA fly. I was turned into a diva. But it's actually nice for this. The kinda hobbled me a little bit. Because I'm thinking I I travel the world you know on someone else's dime so definitely put things in perspective. It's a hard time for everybody. Things will get back to normal Normal is going to be as far as wrestling goes but you know you just gotTa surround yourself with positive. People stay happy you know and then we will get through this. Things might be different on the other side but life goes on. It is what it is so before I let you get out of here since I know you said you watch dark side of the ring. If SAMHADANA's were to be in the brawl for all how does he fare let me think? Let's think a better question would be. Who would he he who would? Who would beat him? Let's put it that way Should I would've made it out round what this is two thousand. There was no wellness policy in two thousand one bad. Everybody was gassed off. The Gills Ida had three of my teeth in the second row. My ear would have been on the ground in different time. Different place but Now that was a hell of an episode. A Sam's Though if bums me out because I'm a big doctor. Death's fan to know that we could have had Austin and Dr. Death wasn't forgot that Barkat ninety four gun. What do you think about the whole Dr Death thing with that? What did you think about what they said about? Rousseau's reasoning three. But making the damn thing first of all and ask that because of that. That's how Dr Death Doors Watt. It's that's roosters. Actually a buddy of mine so I can't really like I don't mean it like talking Shit. I just wondered what you thought it's absurd. He's out of his mind but again. I don't think I need to be the one to tell you that. So the whole thing was this last question from me you talking about how you like. All of the older rushing into the newer promotion out. If never way power that I I really enjoyed it do more low salaries the anyway power at all or that. I've seen a few episodes nick. All this is a good dude. I wish the best. They're doing really good stuff it's cool. It's different it's different pace. It's IT'S THE CHANGE. People need honestly. You never know this. This this whole situation could have kind of plainfield because right now you know. They've been doing this. The Free Studio tapings for months. Now you know now it when it comes to small crowd wrestling shows in front of a TV camera. They might have a competitive edge over the other guys. So who knows everything? Everything's shaken up right now. I don't know what's going where what's pits to. But until then I still watch my obscure wrestling from the seventies and eighties. So just because we like to start shit here since we're talking about the NWEA. I think if it ever happens I say we see Samhadana's against a s yesler show that we just had how about you. Go Take Your shot at the TV title with all outlandish Ziggy days. I've never met the guy I I've seen pictures of him have never seen them wrestle. It looks interesting which is I guess. Ninety percent of the battle but he looks like Joey Attic out. I wish the best. Good Luck I. I don't know I don't even have a comment. I can't say bad things. I can't make a joke. I don't know anything about him but you're cooking for him. I just figure out what your guys your guys do characters. I got money written out at Man but without the if you need to check out. Check out our interview with him. We'll take your word for it if you probably know the game better than I do at this point because like I said everything I watch is. There's there's everything I watched before. Two thousand one and then there's about twenty percent of things I watch after two thousand one so So it's I'm lost in a time capsule and I don't know if it's a good thing or bad thing all right my last question for him for islets Yada here. The SAMHADANA's get down on the video games. I'd like Tetris. Dig Daughter Man. Sin If he was I lived a Rockstar life. All over the country and I have. I've lived in Mexico for two years. I just usually when I have a few extra TA- few extra hours to kill. The last thing I want to do is be in front of a computer game so I'm sorry if that's your jam but that's not mine man I just. I had to check it out because Shane Taylor jumped on the show for a little second and Taylor does. My favorite is my brother. I love you say hey say saints been shamed and I had been Tearing Shit up over there on that Worzel picking up these WS. I was GonNa say if we need a third we need to bring a all El Rudo I can't get everybody. I'm sorry too busy watching someone probably more creative. What we're doing anyway but held out there but either way men. We appreciate your time again throughout your social media one more time. We'll definitely see you back. You're out on the show or maybe a Russell Rex. You better get the rest of the wreck sites real Samhadana's on instagram and twitter Reach out when you can't pay attention if you can. If you don't enjoy yourself do what you do. Stay positive through all this Kobe. Nineteen crap We will get through. This will be better off because of it but I accept everybody stay strong. I appreciate you guys. Talk to your brother you. Well what Samhadana's man you serve. Sam Dominates Life. I really wish I was going on. I pry a minor what came back. I would have been disappointed as you if you didn't because that was a hell of a time last year especially if definitely there so when are you going to quit bullshit and you just shoot your shop? What are you talking about? I mean he is a very very very talented wrestler in. I enjoy watching her in ring. Okay but what else? If what you're alluding to was true I would have already signed up her patriots page highest one so bad that we know of no no you yet but have all right. So here's the thing where we get out of here. I WanNa hear your quick thoughts on this mass. Release that we had today and well county over you know what he wanna hear my thoughts. You can go back on our page and watch the facebook live. Did I saw you? Can't arts but but no real quick man this good and like I said I was published. Sam I'm saying saying. Oh well you know those energy. Awa Now this is these people go you gotta remember signing can keep them going to replace it. Let these people go from out. Ls She knows. This is tight so if there are these other companies will be able to a people to the world of Utah but is it really going to affect the other companies like that because now that we know that someone. Wwe money was Kinda you know involved with the XFL and stuff like that and that's probably got to do with it. Do you think it's going to hit them as hard? When you've got like impact the sale got in the can like that ring of honor you know has got their thinking about thinking about about. This doesn't get you eat. Their biggest show years wrestling rated really making money off Monday. Don't W E is having to tighten their budget and they have all the money in the wrestling world impacts Titan there but they're not gonNA have money from their lives. Ragavan it anymore. They're making money from their Eight they're not making money from a live show it's a TV AWB a little bit. You know better off. But you're right of Honor Jer. Do unfortunately going to Atlanta just this weekend for the CROCK. I can't money. This'll be bringing so if we as tightened their purse strings right now. It's got to be the seat. I wouldn't doubt it in before we get out of here. I mean for me man I I mean. I'm not surprised that we saw the names go. I was surprised at some of the names that went but I wasn't surprised. Resource names go from Russa's was the one that surprised me. Yeah especially with. Lana not going with him. I was like ooh. Wow that's interesting. She's on TV's in right for now but if you're not one of love lives right but you're not watching Ri- feel like that's she's not going to be what Lashley much longer but That and I mean quickly before we get out of here. I mean it looks like UFC. Take another run. You think it happened on this time. 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Knockouts and 3 Counts The Queen of Badstreet Miranda Gordy and Sam Adonis : facing off with Jordynne Grace/Brian Cage

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Knockouts and 3 Counts The Queen of Badstreet Miranda Gordy and Sam Adonis : facing off with Jordynne Grace/Brian Cage

"You're listening to the PODCAST DETROIT. visit www dot pastor, troy dot com before information. Everybody's Biaz young man and get your money day right here too. You're listening to knock out the three cather. Remember everybody. This is Don Western. I'm telling you knock out to three counts as the PODCAST baiting. Check out because somebody like me they're the real dale. Jake the snake Roberts that we know we need to this. Or shoot up dams. Bring on world television champion. Aka. Saint. T the baddest champion you've ever seen boy you listen to knock out some three. Laura? And you are back watching knockouts and three counts, and as we told you, we've got an action packed. Episode for you guys we're talking all things indy wrestling expo, which is going down this Friday and Saturday in Texas originally Richmond Hill sexist. Richland richland hills. Richland I was close enough to Richland, hills man. That, you've got everybody. You Could WanNa see anybody who's not under a WW contract and you've got aws you've got impact and you've got our guest tonight the return of Sam Donaldson doing broke man hanging in there getting all excited amped up for this coming Friday and Saturday in Richland Hills Texas the pro wrestling expo I'm going to be there and I have a big match against branch so I'm really excited for this one that's been mass have been waiting for free you know a couple years now I've actually been trained in the largest back ring shape because of all that time off so is going to be really cool weekend before too. So. Tell me a little bit about that. The last we talked you were telling us about Amazon thing, which is why things were switched up a little. You GotTa go in a sling, some packages. So what is that like for you? You gotta go make the run to Texas. So what's your work week and it looked like this week bro, it's pretty intense. Get up every morning at about four forty, five star delivered packages to allow four PM. And then I have to fit in my normal routine of the week, which is Jim I've been. Putting. Some wrestling training in there and now that the independence of finally picking back up. Now I have to balance that, which is you know. It's what we do. It's what we liked to do. You know it's a good problem to have because being busy means you're doing something. Right. But right now we're still kind of in the middle because it's not busy enough me to you know be full-time once again but at the same time. It's getting in the way of my other Gig. So it'll be a long week retired I. You know I have a day off and I get slide Texas at wrestle three matches in two days fly home on the Sunday afternoon and have to be back up at five am on Monday. So tell me about that. How is Amazon, with getting days off because let me tell you USPS i. don't give a fuck. If you hear this, your supervisors are not accommodating but I digress. How is it for you trying to get your get your stuff in with the wrestling bookings right now being that Amazon's got to be jumping just like we are. It's pretty cool. Is Not so bad because we worked for day WORKWEEKS with four days on three days off and there's just so much work many volumes of work. You can just kind of staggered shift as long as you're not taking advantage of it which I haven't had to yet. But. Likely. My my boss, a really big wrestling fan. He's doing what he can't help me out right now. Okay. So tell me about that how much browning points has been wrestling scored you at the job role a only recently the new managers. One that has rivals big fan. I came back in station one day and he came up to me kind of one of those. Hey, I need to talk to you. Oh, God what I do and I hit a child or what? He says so I hear you're wrestler yeah, but doing it and you know he all I knew a wrestler here back in there whatever next thing you know he grew like Oh. Wow. You're actually you're really high level wrestler in all. Yeah. I I'm only here because it got to be you know. So he's really cool what he's helping me out. A man. So let's get into the real business at hand. Obviously, this isn't the first show that you've gotten to do since Kovin as we can talk about. Corey was playing call of duty with me and I was telling him about the pictures I was like man he just sent me to stop thinking it was your brother. So tell me about warrior wrestling Bro. Like on the pictures you sent me man, it looked like a dope setup. What was that like with that kind of a setup? Did it make it harder to work or what you think? Honestly I think it was one of the best outdoor shows I've ever worked. A lot of times you have a problem doing these outdoor shows because a lot of times. If it's football baseball stadium, they have the fans segregated one section. So there might be fifteen hundred people or two thousand people, but they're always on one side of the rain and it Kinda takes away some of the overall ambiance of the arena. This show was so spread. Out and they had five hundred people evenly spaced around the entire football field people in both sets of bleachers honestly yes. That they weren't is packed in together. But at the home match, we felt like we were in the in the center of Arena and it just it felt really good to be helps you will just be in front of that many people live attendance was. It looked really cool man because I am so upset that I'm not gonNA make the trip to Texas. I was trying to get Devon there on Mike Brown right in your backyard like please go to the so go check this shit out. He's like man they got me working sixteen hours a day or I Don't mean I tried to get Devon there I would be there if it weren't floor of responsibilities and being. But Dude, that looks pretty cool. So what are your thoughts on this being the first Expo I've heard of or seen since the whole Kobe? On a people altogether. I really hope everything goes off his plan. That's they might may concern. You know I don't want to any. Hiccups along the way I think most fans are ready for it. I mean fans just ready to be back in that environment. We've all have this day you know socially responsible when we have our masks don't go around you know you can't get too close to people. We WanNA, make sure we have a safe environment for everyone. So these key boone forward I think if people could come to this feel safe and feel like it's something they're willing to do. That will probably be some steps in the right direction to getting back to where we were. So I just hope everything comes off his plan I mean it's it's two nights. I mean there's countless games activities costume contest so much going on in this one. Almost, kind of has the same vibe as maybe one of those. You know star cast or big events or whatever kind of has that same feel to it. Like you said, the show is just packed and stacked. So happy apartment. Let's talk about it. So night, one, you're part of team hammer stone. All right. First of all. What are your thoughts on being a part of team hammer stone 'cause I mean, I've never met the guy would love to have on the show but I mean, Hey, the guy's a little phone. So we all know that you don't have confidence issues. So how do you think that that coexists in a big tag match like that? Well, I don't know how it's GonNa onslaught on the Friday, but he's one of those guys that I've always got along with really well, I've never wrestled them but I've been on a bunch of shows with him there's. A certain thing like a lot of times when you get to a certain level as a performer as traveler, you know you kind of tend to relate some of the guys that are doing the same things that you're doing. So I've met him on multiple occasions. We've only seen. Oh, we were able to relate so we get along. So I'm glad to be on his team It'll be fun just to. It's cool because there's you know ten big guys you know I. Think the Shortest Guy Match might be six two. So it'd be rock out your guys squad. No hassle guys but I know they're big. Jake plots WHO's in it riding back a buddy of Mine Gallo. Arizona yeah there's a bunch of them I. Think I think there's another vet that's going to give a lot of opportunities to see your guys trying to prove himself but not the Saturday night seems to be a precursor for my The Sunday to Friday nights a precursor for my Saturday because Saturday I have two singles matches one against I Chandler Hopkins in the afternoon and then the Bingo. On Saturday nights myself against the machines Brian Cage. So before we get to that something I noticed in looking at this again as you mentioned before we went on the air you know I mean this is probably the third time you've been on the show we've gotten to know each other pretty well in that time I've never known Mr Donnas to be a guy who brings himself any backup really I see got a manager with you for this one. So what fuck what's up with that? Honestly I actually have him on most of my events that I do on the West Coast and in the southwest believe it or not he is one hundred percents might shoot real life west coast booking manager. have get band. That's not a joke that's not a stretch books my shows he's talented for me. So lot of what I do in the southwest is going through him and it's awesome. People contact him say how Osama said Okay we'll. We'll be there he hooks up to do. He gets the negotiation sorted out he says my flights and. He's legitimately want to you know one of my best friends on the planet tastes care. Me Gets me a lot of work and. Will be together on this show. So even though you haven't seen, it doesn't mean I'll have a backup when I need it every now and again. I see you. You got your own Paul Ring. I. Got You I. Don't know. But I mean, Hey, we're getting you the deals done. So he's doing exactly. How. Many other American independent guys have their own Paul Chris all I'm saying, Hey, man I'm not mad. For you Paul. L. Ring did for the road warriors we're in fucking business. Man Now it's GonNa be cool He's fantastic and what he knows to he's just like me, we love the wral up the audience people. All crazy. We have some good chemistry. So I think you know if anything there's so many is on the show hopefully get him out there and seen a lot more people as well. Well. Let's talk about the match that if people already don't know you which I don't know how they don't but if they don't. This Brian Cage match might do very much the same thing for you. So let's talk a little bit about that. So obviously dude has been on the run in Awol he's the F. T. W. Champ right now he's got his whole deal going with Tasr and Ricky starks and all them. So first of all I know is a match you and I have talked about in person that you wanted for a while. So what are your thoughts on the match up and how do you see this match playing out? I think it's just going to be awesome. That's all I can say Brian's another one of those guys I've been around for the last four years I've been on the same shows as. Same thing about having a mutual respect for somebody that's doing what you're doing. So it's something that I've always wanted to happen for a while there is a tension between us because my gimmick in Mexico with Donald Trump supporter and he did something similar AAA. So the fans were wide upset I stole as Gimmick he stole my gimmick and everything in between. So it was one of the things that was just a may be curious but at the same time Brian Caves about two, hundred, fifty pounds. Of Solid Muscle. You know I'm six foot four to forty myself I think what's what to expect? There's just a heavyweight You know get too big boys up there kicking the shit out of each other You know he's he's all over the place. He has a lot of is on them right now the way I see as this is an opportunity for me to show a lot of people when the American audience that don't know who I am. You know who I am what I'm all about. Look man might I suggest I mean again we're home and all I told you a good kick in the Dick when well placed he might be machine but I mean, Hey, if there's GonNa caused a chink in the armor just seeing. Trust me I got I. Got Secrets Up my sleeve. So Coming Texas well prepared. I was just trying to look out for the homeless. But hell yeah man. But we're looking forward to this weekend man you're GonNa do your thing against Brian Cage and I know we were talking about linking up for Russell wrecks in Philly man I don't know Pittsburgh. Pittsburgh. Keeps say Philly Jews. Anyway we're talking about Russell wrecks in. Pittsburgh. You think now that we're starting to see some of these shows, do you think that opens up the door for that too we're getting there Pittsburgh's a little bit slurred Pennsylvania itself a little bit slower than the rest of the country just being precaution. Being Precautionary I'm ready for its comeback I'm ready to start promoting these shows together, the fans and ready the city's ready. So as soon as we get the green light from the states are they will be back right now I'm lucky I'm blessed to have any bookings do across the country I mean this week amid Dallas Texas the following week midday show. SALENA that I have Chicago have Salt Lake City been back in Texas so I it's pretty good fall coming up considering the there's not many shows. So all things considered I'm just happy to be here happy to have the support of people do and I can't wait to keep traveling again. See everybody. Well, you already know you got us in your corner. If. Russell REX comes back. Let me know a little bit ahead of time and Hey I'll make my way out the Pittsburgh but let everybody know. Again where they can find you this this Friday and Saturday in Texas Independent Wrestling Expo, all that good stuff and what you got cooking this Friday and Saturday richland hills. Texas. Right outside of Dallas anybody that's listened anybody in that area. Please come check it out come. Say Hello Tell me that you watch this You know I can get along with the devil so you know make a conversation trust me I. Think, we can talk about anything people can continue to find me and all my dates on my social media my twitter and instagram or both Samhadana's they have all my upcoming events on my shows and Yeah. Just a good way to to stay in contact and I I, have a really good feeling. You know my best years yet to come everything's been going really good I just think PGA. I'll be be quite busy coming up. So a comedic fans and just. Do It we do. Bring pro wrestling back in the masses a brother I'm with you with and like always man we appreciate having you on the show and like I said if Russell Rex comes back, hit your boy a little bit ahead of time you know how them post office in Amazon Shit works give me a little heads up and I'll be out in bit sounds good. My brother. We'll make it happen and thank you for listening. Amen we appreciate you know. Well everybody that's it man we had Samhadana's with us and as we mentioned Miranda Gordy will be in with us here shortly corey. So this was your first go around with Samhadana's what do you think? Pretty personal died he'd like. Like you guys were chatting about. He seems pretty excited about his upcoming. That's for sure. Well Dude I mean with a big opportunity. Mean going against the machine Brian Cage Dude is going to be insane. Liking the same with the world finally open back up. This is one of the first bigger shows up there really is out there. Right man and I mean like I said, it's going to be the first big fan expo like you said, it's kind of like along the along the lines of star cast deal. We've worked a couple of those but never under circumstances where. Was a Kobe thing you know. So we'll see what happens for those. You tune in to catch the beauty of bad street the queen of Badge Street Maranda Gordy, she will be in here with US shortly corey, we had some great fights last weekend as well. Man Let's talk briefly about Frankie Edgar in his fight. While we wait for MS Gordon to join us well real quick. Everybody, WHO's watching this? If you watch the fights, please go back and Below who who you scored the fight for if you were paying enough attention to actually score, it does seem a lot of mixed reviews on who. Joined US want it. Yeah let us know any comment who it is that you think you know who it is that you. You know who it is that you guys had in it. Without, any further ado like I said, we had more than one guest. Tonight we've got the queen of Badge Street Miss, Miranda Gordy how you doing? Great how're you can't complain just got off with Mister Samhadana's talking a little bit about this independent wrestling expo in can I say from Jump Street I'm so fucking mad that I'm not going to be there because for those of you who didn't catch the first fifteen minutes with Sam, he's doing Amazon. So we feels my pain with post office right now I would be there otherwise I wanna see you Jordan grace. Tangled up but before we get to that, let them know where they can find you at. I'm on all social media. You can find me twitter facebook instagram. All under Miranda. Gordon you just search random Gordie even pro wrestling tease you search my name and you can find me. So. I gotTA. Tell you so in my. Journalistic. Research or whatever the fuck you WANNA call it. I was looking at your interview that you did with wrestling travel man. So that sure that you've got out for your dad guys insured first of all that Shit is dope. So. Tell. Me Tell me about your merch because for somebody who's been in the game for only a year you've got a you've got quite the lineup. Party. And now I've had merch since the beginning but. Like I said pro wrestling tease all the t shirts that I have out. There's a couple of Terry Gordy shirts of course, some of are Jong there. But the guy g worldwide that's actually through. Through their website for a limited time I think there's one more week left as if we could collab- and I was like absolutely I love your product and they happened to be a fan of my dad's so we're doing a special just for like the rest of this week so that you can get a Terry Gordy shirt and where can they get it at what's the line? Guide. Jean. Worldwide Dot com I believe. A, I like it I already I've already at myself. One coming a right. So I was trying to School Korea. So our show also covers a May and all that stuff corey's been kind of filling in with me during the whole quarantine deal and all that kind of stuff and he's more of the enemy. So I sent him some stuff of not only yours but your dad's to kind of get an idea of what was going on. So one of the questions I got for you is obviously for those who don't know I mean you're a third generation if I'm not mistaken is the third generation fourth-generation. Just a second, just a second thing Reysen mixed up second-generation but I know your brother was in the business as well as your dad. So tell me you know I listened to what you were saying about why he wanted to get in the business but I mean. Obviously it was something that you grew up with but what was it? They're really made that change that made you want to get in the wrestling business. Really it started with. One of the promoters they kept asking me like, Hey, come to the show to the show finally they were like the von Eric's are going to come to the show and I'm like. Okay fine. I'll get out of the House I'll come see them and you know it'll be fine Harold B. something to do and I enjoy myself and I'm like OK. Sure. I'll get out and I'll start going to more and more, and then I became a manager to one of my friends and they gave me a spot where I got to punch somebody and I'm like I WanNa do this all the time. On crime the crap out. Of. Big. POMP and. So is that we found love with it just because I guess the rise in. So I started training from there. So. Obviously you know you've only been in the game for about a year from what I've seen. So Y-, you haven't been in the game that long but I mean from what I see. You know you're already racking up some titles from what I see. You just got the ESTA, the W fury title. You're going to be faced in Jordan grace here at the Independent Wrestling Expo Bowl. You know she's the former impact champ I mean. For somebody WHO's been in the game a year you know you're over here, trying to make some waves and shit. So. Bit about that I mean you've been in a game a year but I mean it's not the first time. I've heard your name around, which is why when Kyle who hooked up this interview you know set this up I was like you know I, feel like Miranda would be the one that would be cool to do this with. So tell me a little bit about that. I mean I just I've been very blessed I've. Started with good trainers. And Ben Obviously My name, my dad built a legacy and. That has gotten me in the door and then my training, my attitude I. The Way I present myself in my work are what continued you get me bookings in all these places like against Jordan Grace you know I think I could honestly say that if I wasn't good at it when I do I, I wouldn't have the match so or have the titles you know. When You get a title for a company you're representing that company. So obviously, all those companies think that I am good enough to represent them. So that's that's how I feel about it so. To go with that. One thing that really intrigues me with this match with you working grace is. You enjoy your grace both have you know that real strong power bill which to me I feel like is so underrated in women's wrestling today and it goes into something that Corey and wanted to ask you. So before I let corey hit you what he's got because it'll go right off it. What are your? What's your response to those who keep saying? Well, all they. Look manly because you know you could be strong or because you don't look like the cookie cutter, you know model type all the time like to me. I feel like having different representations whether it's men's wrestling female wrestling. How can everybody connect the wrestling if everybody looks the same so what are your? What's your thought on that because I know you've had to hear it before. Now. One would ever say it to my face not palm. Course. They would never say it to my face and and that's really all I gotta say because. You can say whatever you want behind a keyboard or to your friends, you wouldn't say it to mind or Jordan grace's or any of the bigger girls based. You know and that's that's all you gotta say you'd be a coward. And Talk. Crap. But whatever. Good I. Hope I. Look strong I mean leave me alone. I'm Tom Mouth I. Glory Wide Teed it up. Let's go man you had one ready to go. Well, I had one actually the kind of sprung back to what we were initially talking about. But you kinda covered it with what you were saying earlier with the fact of like you came in this as a generational talent like you kyle was saying was. You turn that motivation though in something or yourself, and like you were saying, they don't necessarily just give out title those obviously your own work in addition that's get you to this point. Where how much further do you see that taking you and how much? You plan on putting into this. Is this your full-time Gig I mean obviously you're you know. Iligan. At a huge by right now with everything just now opening back up with everything this is a big opportunity. It is and I do like right now. This is what I do. This would be my full time job. This is my focus right now obviously, in the gym all the time constantly training a my boyfriend I live with him. He has a rain like you walk out of my bedroom as a wrestling match. You know wrestling is my life right now and I hope to go to the top. I you know I. I think that at some point I will have a tryout hopefully soon for WWe if not out super. Maybe impact or another one of the. You never know right now there could be another company pop up in the meantime, but I'm going I'm going for the top. So it's just my life right now. Yeah and when when do you expect to see more of the bigger shows kind of opening enough I know a lot of them are doing kinda smaller gigs and stuff when he expect a kindness team, maybe move further down south where you see a lot of the states of more open to allowing events opening up. I actually I think soon I think you know we were getting into fall and. We're going back into the where The country goes back to school and everybody gets back to their job off summer, and usually we have pandemic but I think the further we get into. The fall and I think that shows will start opening back up because. I like to be inside. But. We can't just let you know. The economy crowded we can't just stay inside forever. Everybody has to to go out and live their lives. You know life is short so and you've got to have fun while you can and. Still have an income and still do all that. So I I actually think things like ROA J W are slowly getting A. Half capacity or quarter capacity. Right, now. From what I what I? Their Awa is going to be doing for their taping this week. I read they said it's going to be like ten percent capacity. Yeah, exactly. So so slowly they're gonNA trickle in fans and they'll probably have tons of safety precautions just like we're doing for the expo, they're taking a lot of precautions, the mask and the sanitation, and the you know making sure everybody's got their Kobe tests and stuff like that and I feel like those bigger. Live events are going to do the same thing until we can resume back to normal, we might not ever leave the home ask thing which is fine. Other countries we've been doing that for at least a decade you know like Japan and stuff, they just automatically do it. So I if we don't get away from that, it's fine. But at least we get to go back to resuming life as normal. Absolutely I feel I feel the same way. If that's what it takes us a mask. It's masks we'll. Get back to the world being opened. If that's all right people people are tripping like like I said I work at the post office. So it's like everyday man I gotta wear masks. Then, it ain't my choice role like I don't have a damn thing to do with it like I don't like it either. At least on the upside, you know they've gotten creative. So I've been wearing switching between the Pentagon and Phoenix Masson I get about twenty people windsor mask from. The there's so many opportunities like I had. Asked for the bad street mass like I think it's great opportunities. Mask, and it covers your mouth. There you go you. Ask. Her FIG segues seeing. You've already gotten to. See we've got new shirts that are going to be getting the orders going in Thursday. So if you guys are looking for him, stay tuned our website. We're GONNA have them come and maybe I'll get you one out as well to Miranda once we get out. We're going to try to do that with the mass to my buddy was like, Bro, how you just put it like flat square in the thing like you know just put the knockouts and free counselling I'm like do that would be like stupid easy to yeah lately I mean, Hey, it is what it is. So you brought up Japan No. So that brings up a few questions for me first of all with you going over to Japan and having your first experience over there you know with your. Dad Heaven the name that he did there in Japan and just the legacy that Japan has for being what they always talk about strong styles different style wrestling than what you see. It's a different style wrestling fan than what you see. So with Your Dad's reputation preceding you and while as your brother, you know doing his thing with wwe did that bring any extra pressure for you as you went to Japan of what were your thoughts of the overall experience with that working there versus here in America? So when I went over there like immediately, just because of you know everybody knows my dad and my brother, just the legacy I was already greeted with such respect and so you know I was met at the airport by a fan like a sponsor and and every day like I had had someone else take me somewhere. Awesome. So I mean. With my work but with my Dad's what my dad created over there, they had so much respect for him that they just immediately put it on to me. So it was. A really really awesome experience and I can't wait to go back a like I. can't it would take talking about all night you know. I The fans are difference why. In the sense that you know the green with gifts and they were just in all I was treated like a queen you know like. They were larger than life over there you know and. They still students what it is. Yeah, and they just wanted to hang out like it was like the coolest thing for them to hang out with me you know and they just wanted to spend time in and be in my presence and I'm like I'm just cool with you. Know you guys like I'm in another country you know so. Like It. Was a lot of finding I hope to go back really soon just I think that would be a big goal. If I don't make it to a major promotion, I would absolutely take Japan I'll I'd make all the thirteen hour flights back in. Virginia and it was just that. Awesome. So I heard you say in the interview that you did with Russell travel that a lot of the stuff you watch as far as film and things like that wrestling is dad stuff. So my question with that is, are you more of a fan of the free birds stuff or do you like more of the death match stuff 'cause Corey didn't know what? I. Meant when I said death matched up. So I say Corey linked to your dad versus Cactus Jack over there in Japan. Yeah. That was one of the later Japan matches I actually last May have the opportunity to talk with. Mick Foley Cactus Jack about it and he was he had nothing but respect for my dad it was really cool touch real hard to be able to talk to him about that match and so it's a pretty good match but I want to say or his free birds and like my data Japan I am more of a fan of Japanese stuff. The all Japan because that's just what I grew up with I was born in eighty nine. So at the time my dad was going to Japan like every three months or so and he was over there and so I grew up with the stance and the doctor DADS and a giant Baba's and. People people from Japan coming in my house and I just think it's normal. You know we're getting our pictures taken putting Japanese magazines as kids, and that's just what I grew up with. So I think that that's kind of what? I. Tend to lead towards. Of course, I love Michael I love buddy and you know and I actually close with Michael but I grew up with all Japan. So that leads right into another question I had for you. Know you mentioned that you wanted to get a try out soon with wwe and all that kind of stuff. So how much how instrumental has Michael really been with what you've been doing since she started wrestling since you're still new to the game as he kinda given it a wait and see approach or is it kind of like oh? Shit? It's another free burden these all over. I think secretly he's excited. He's not come out now he's. I'll call him up every once in a while and I'll be like, what would you do about this like I remember when I first started matches. I had my first match and I called him like what I do now, and he gave me advise of the advice was go out, learn to work you know and so that's what I did I just took all taken matches and some sucked eleven sucked and. I just got better it was a learning experience and that's been you know the the biggest learning experience actually so I you know I talked to him maybe once a week every other week or so and I'll just like you know what would you do about this? What do you think about this and so he's giving me a lot of good advice and I think he hopes to see me in a big company is now. I mean I would say that that's a good bet but I had to know how much he had to do with it because I mean cory I know you're not the biggest wrestling guy but I'm telling you you need to go down the wormhole you need to check out some free birds versus Bond Eric Shit And you WANNA talk about a crowd getting hot like I was just talking to him before we went on because we had salmon Donna sign with us. Now, the last time Sam was here in Detroit. He told me before the show he goes. Yes Shit. Some Shit's GonNa get a little fucking rowdy. Next thing you know knew he had motherfucker strom beer from the from the raptors and everything so you WanNa talk about heat you watch free birds, verse Von Erich. You'll see you'll see plenty dude because I would say would agree when I say that. There were a lot of times that Terri, and then we're lucky they made it back to the fucking. Kurt. Absolutely. Like my whole life I've heard stories of people literally bringing guns to shows like so much he they have made people hate them so bad that they literally WanNa to kill him you know and that that's heat and unfortunately no one gets that heat. Now you kind of everybody's gotTA BE PC AND All, that would is fine but. Back then though. They didn't give it was a different time and they wanted it though that's what sold tickets is you know you had your baby face von Eric's everyone loves on Eric's, but they buy tickets to watch the von Erich beat up the free birds. That's what sold the tickets is you hated that person I'm buying this ticket. So I can see them beat up this guy that I hate you know. So that's how you get heat heat is Dan Corey I tried to tell you because I know you don't watch it like I do. So I full disclosure if you can't tell from what's behind me I mean most of that stuff from our interviews at this point but. I've been watching this shit since I was a kid and then as I got older, I fell into the eighties shit as obviously I was not born for that either. So I didn't get to see a ton of it but man when I went back and looked dude like, Corey I tried to tell you like I've I've told Gory like man. Crowds man it ain't like it is now like I've at shows where shit got. It got hot. So yeah, like I said one of these days man we're going to have to have you check that out but let's talk a little bit away from wrestling for a second before we get into what you've got this weekend at the independent wrestling expo because you're going to be pretty fucking busy. When you're not wrestling what does the queen a Badge Street doing her good time like what? What do you like to do for a good time here like I know you can't be beaten faces then as it says on your twitter eight ring all day. So fuck you for a good time because I. Had like the Party does it run in the family? I I like to party. That's not i. like to I like to drink everyone's actually. I'm in a winery right now. Perfect? So. How'd you? As of lately with the pandemic I've been focusing on like. And this is so bad street high garden. I have a Horse I, ride my horse and south pretty chill. You know I've been able to go out and do stuff. But yet for good time I'll go out to you know bar or club or something just walk around like I love to travel so. That's part of the wrestling of is, is I get to go see new place if I'm in a new city I just wrestled in absolutely check out the scenery. So I guess that's what I do. Have you made your way to Detroit yet? I have not got a chance to really check out Detroit I've passed through there about ten years ago but I've never really been the heart of it passed through I kept driving but. I don't blame Ya. It's it's on the upswing now but ten years ago. Passing. Well. Whenever you make your way to Detroit, you'll definitely have to give me a ring. We'll have to get a drink or so. Absolutely do that Shit. Bring Masks we'll take a shot the shadow, kill it right shot or. Now. We're talking here. We'll get you a little bit to killing. Get you something. We'll be looking. All right. It'll be all good. But so like I said, our show also covers enemy. Do you mess with Emma at all? Do you watch it and if so who are some of your favorites? I. I don't really watch it to be honest I've seen some some like when Rhonda Rousey was big like I'm like heck yeah I'd do it for the ladies you know I was. I. Had her back furthermost part Her matches didn't last long. So I saw off fifteen seconds. Every time you always when with the arm bar. been it's been at least a year or two cents off actually watched a match on on now UFC or anything so. That's fair. I had to ask though because you see so many people you know jumping from animator wrestling wrestling. I mean like I said our show covers wrestling and MMA because obviously I started as a wrestling fan I started fighting when I was thirteen though so I mean that's where that's where the kind of the parallel comes with it. But my question for you is we talked about what you liked to do outside of here all that good stuff you know obviously, shows are starting to open up a little bit more and things like that. How you feel now that you're getting into wrestling at the time, you are though because I feel like we're at a time now we're women are at a spot where we've never seen like I mentioned before you used to see you know the model you know. You know, I don't even know what to call it the model type but now you've got every different kind of woman you could want and women are getting actual time to wrestle places like getting legit. You know twenty thirty minutes for somebody like you who you know your dad, you know the free birds and von Erich beat the shit out of each other for like twenty and thirty minutes at a time. So for you now getting into wrestling and getting your chance here on a bigger show and against the big opponent like Jordan grace I mean. How does it feel now that you know that you're actually going to be able to get a legitimate. Time in the ring you know. I I think that now is the best time for me to get into wrestling the we have. Women's evolution going on which I love women are and there's nothing wrong with it but women were seen as the divas a you know the. CNA's like You know it was all model looking as in. You know not that I'm not attracted I'm just not that type you know. So I now I think now. Women are more seen as somewhat like demand. They're seen as athletes they're seen as, but kickers you know they're seen as aggressive and that's okay. Now you know. Not just want. Everything around accurately like that girl might legitimately kick my butt and I loved it. So I think now's a good time. I'm super excited for the match with join grace because she also a buck kicker she's you know she's got the muscles. She's got the big arms and stuff. So she she looks like she might. Up On some people. So I think it's a good matchup up for her and and people have been telling me you know left riot dream match like due to bigger girls, girls with the muscles and stuff like that like going at it. So I, I'm excited for it. All right. So how do you see this going then? Again during restaurant Burma. You Ain't got to be modest you you can. Get, W I didn't expect. Well, Steve's really good. I'm going to give her the good old college try but you know she might get me because even if I thought I was GONNA lose the boxing ring I never gonNa tell now the most that. I. You know. I'm not saying I'M GONNA win by. A. It's huge match for you though I mean, that's a hell of a person for you to lock it up with your I mean, and I'm pretty sure I. Mean it's going to give you I mean this is gonNa be good exposure to I mean this puts you in front of impact and everywhere else. So I mean you're talking about you know getting triumphed with w everywhere else I? Mean health you go in there and be a former impact champ I mean I mean doesn't take a brain surgeon. That's true. That's I. Mean you know of course, the exposure I, mean I took the match before I knew. I was against because I'm always ready to kick somebody but it's it's really awesome. That is Jordan grace because it does she has a really large following and so you know when I win. People see that I beat her so I think it's great. And you know the same goes for her. I'm catching up on the following. So so people at one point even if they don't get to catch it now, we'll probably look back and be like I like these females I wanna see this match. So it'll be in the history books if they ever want to see it. Well obviously I kind of skipped the chronological order. But Hey, I've been throwing the mail all day. So give me a fucking break anyways on night one before we ever get to Jordan grace, you've got a triple threat elimination match. So tell me about that. That's a Lotta Shit going on at one time and oh My triple threat is with killer who actually just be on Friday at Texoma pro that was. A title match. My title. I am and I. Do. Yeah. I beat her and. Also Eric tour as I know Erica we've been on shows together but I've never actually had a match with so I think she's a former Nwea women's champion she's been doing this for a minute she's going to be a great competitor but I think I got sizes drink so. I also give them a run for their money. I think I got that in the bag. All right. So you're the perfect person for me to ask this too because we have this segment on the show. It kinda goes wanted to ways. You know we kind of flip it depending on whether it's an Ma Person Arrest Lynn person so. This that's a two part question. One. Are you a person when it comes to show day and things like that? Like what kind of mindset you gotta be in there? You know Fun Happy Go lucky kick it or are you all business data? Business. I'm like you know get him by kicking mode I'm like. asking. Puzzle I'M GONNA GET I I listen to some music whatever I'm feeling if I'm listens. It just depends if I, if I. Might put on some rab if I feel like. I'm his today on some like metal or something you know just whatever I've been at the moment and. I. Just Roll with it and I, keep that mindset from time I wake up hit the gym get a little pumped. Drink my pre workout and go kick some bud at the show. All right. So second part said question now just so you know I didn't fuck and put this on so that you only had to be the one to answer it. Sam has already answered this question. So have the likes of Josh Briggs and Congo gone and Booker T. and other names. So we call this segment locker room etiquette. So you got any are there. Any pet peeves that you've got whether it be with fans or whether that be in the locker room and what I mean. By this, you've had everything from fans not knowing personal space or not knowing what deodorant stick is or on the other end of the question we've had everything from wash your balls to keep your baby momma at the Locker Room we've had all kinds of them so. Let's get the female perspective on this one. Are there any pet peeves as far as the locker room and is there anything that fans do? It shows that just gives you the fucking creeps. Well all of those are really good. They remember Yes. Wash yourself one year. I, think really all around the some just be respectful and all senses like wearing the odorant I. Don't have a bad attitude. You know everybody's in this together like. We all have to sit there. We all have to work with each other. You don't want to cause heat with someone you're about to go out with her or just don't cause unnecessary drama dog all goes with respecting other people and the boundaries like John Hit on women in the locker room you know something like that it's all about respect I think that that's the biggest thing respect your wrath because they can you know, make or break the match they make the calls. Respect the person you're working with respect to other people whether you work with them or not. So we're sector space respect. Don't still stop don't leave a mess respect the people that have to clean up after you you know. Just. Just respect. Yeah. So The fans I'm not really bothered. I know a lot of ladies are. I don't I. Guess I'm not bothered because I don't let that happen to me. Radha but it nicely like. If. Someone gets to close I step back. I don't know if that's like. Commonsense or you would. I don't know. I am not trying to be mean about it. I just feel like if someone if a dude got a little too fresher, made me uncomfortable I know at some point I might have to punch motherfucker liking. So. I remember all that's just step by step away like nothing if they try to put their around you, you don't like it. You're a trained wrestler. Absolutely. On 'em like do something like twins they're released. You can do that. I'm sure you're going to do it in your match. Hurt that you know he in respectful way her. And so those of you who might be new to the show that segment is not made to bash the fans right right. Right closure here. The reason why that segment was created. Obviously Devon in those of you who have been watching for the show know that I've been running solo and core. He's been fill it in. But the reason why that segment was created was because we would go to these shows to do these interviews man and I would just look and it would be like the more we got to know people the more we were out here doing these shows and you would just see people just do shit and you'd be like. Bro Like. In and it's the people where you'd be like it's motherfuckers. Or why wrestling fans are looked at the way they are because you can't just be cool about it. You gotTa Make It. Weird Bro and I've had some pretty fun encounters with that. So I. I figured who better to have encounters with that sort of thing. You know. Yeah I You. Know I know we just had like the speak-out stuff in the metoo movements and all of that, and it came into wrestling and I think it came into different a lot of different jobs and and careers and stuff like that and people did a big clean out. It's not something that not that it didn't affect me but. that. I wasn't concerned with because like I said. I'll absolutely put a move on someone that crosses me so I'm a trained professional wrestler I'll act accordingly you know so. That's just me. Hey I love it. Because I figured I knew just from talking to you. I knew you were going to have a good answer with that because Devon likes to say that I am overly to hotheaded because for those of you who will be watching this on youtube check out the link right there with past guests. This show myles jury at miles last. After party let's just say I saw two groups of people walk towards each other miles happened to be in the middle of my first instinct was. That's a lot of people. It was Otit. I'm going that way and I remember Devon picking me up and I'm like know like this is insane. So like I said, it can pop off real quick but that's not why we were here like I said one more time. Let people know where they can find yet. Again I'm fucking bombed that I'm not going to be there but let them know where they can find you at n check out that triple threat along with your great match with Jordan Grace I am on twitter as Miranda Gordon I'm on Instagram as Miranda Gordy. I'm on facebook as Maranda gordy pro wrestling. Tease Miranda Gordon. You. Can actually also watch me on a w Swat fights and I also believe that they will be airing the expo as part of the Expo on TV as well. was going to ask about that if I could see because I'm so bummed man I wanna be there but fucking Rona. At well, like I said, I enjoyed it like I said, we get these shirts off of definitely send you one and leg I appreciate your time, and we definitely got to have you back because like I said, I had a good time tonight. Hopefully, you did as well and make sure you follow her at all the places that she just mentioned. Thank you so much for having me. Hey W none of this humble shit. You gotta get that W. This weekend right? I'm GONNA get it. We're getting ws all the way around here also before we let you out of here, check out that link. Corner and shot out to Sunday's guest Adrian, the Eagle heartbeat as he gets ready to go to war for elevate eighty, nine on UFC fight pass this Friday jack him out in until next time in the in between time. Say Stay Safe.

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Full Episode: Sunday, September 22, 2019

This Week with George Stephanopoulos

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Full Episode: Sunday, September 22, 2019

"Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today indeed dot com slash. ABC that's indeed dot com slash. ABC This week with George Stephanopoulos starts right now the president a plays defense despite his tough talk. There's whether you time to do some dastardly things. It's very easy to start after that massive attack on Saudi oil L. Crissy's the president dials back on Iran choosing sanctions over military action for now but could further destabilize the region invite invite more attacks from Iran and I've had conversations with many leaders that always appropriate the Wall Street Journal reporting trump pressured the Ukrainian in president to investigate Joe Biden sons using the abuse of power in every element of the presidency to try to do something to smear me did trump pushed for foreign interference to get an edge over campaign rival. Lou White House released full details of that conversation and how will Congress Respond Secretary of State Mike Pompeo joins us live plus trump's former defense secretary Jim Mattis and remembering our cokie roberts she was unafraid of Bishop or political figure and she delighted in letting both know that fact trailblazer a mother author a friend. Our roundtable celebrates her life and legacy. Sam Donaldson and George will return to remember our colleague from ABC News This Week here now coworker Martha Raddatz Good morning morning and welcome to this week a place that was a professional home for our cokie Roberts for more than thirty years to route the morning we will be celebrating braiding our colleague and friend who was honored here in Washington and Saint Matthews Cathedral on Saturday hundreds gathering to remember her life her legacy Z. and her love of family but since her very first show was an anchor on this program in one thousand nine hundred ninety six cokie promised to bring you the news each Sunday morning so we will start with that and we begin with the rising tensions between Iran and the US the administration is pointing the finger at Iran holding it responsible suitable for that attack on Saudi oil facilities last week the secretary of State calling it an act of war president trump's response has run the gamut saying the US was locked and loaded last Sunday then swinging to talk of a peaceful resolution on Thursday and here's what he said Friday in the oval the office. I think it shows far more strength to do it the way we're doing it. Whether it's now three weeks doesn't make any difference but I think the the strong person's approach and the thing that does show strength would be showing a little bit of restraint so far the only concrete Crete steps trump has taken our to impose yet more sanctions and deploy a modest number of troops and air defense systems to Saudi Arabia. So where do we go from here. Do Trump's varied responses. Keep Iran guessing or invite further escalation from Iran for more on this. Let's bring in Secretary of State Mike Pompeii. Oh welcome back to this week Murtha. It's great to be with you. Thank you Mister Secretary. The Pentagon did announced Friday that in response to the attacks on the Saudi oil facilities that the US will be sending more air defenses to Saudi president also announcing more sanctions. What kind of message does that send to Iran nation nations that you say conducted an active war Martha we have forty years of terror from this nation and they conducted an attack on the oilfields oilfields one of the largest attacks on the global energy supply in history and so president trump strategy that we laid out now two years ago is working we are well on our way to forcing the Iranian regime to ultimately make the decision to become a normal nation. That's all we've ever asked and so the president made a couple apple decisions on Friday we tighten sanctions on the regime which put the revolutionary regime in a difficult position. The Iranian people applaud that they understand Dan that their leaders are taking them in the direction that is not good for their country and we end announced that we're going to move some additional forces secretary of Defense talked about that on Friday evening. Each each of those is aimed at deterrence. We do want a peaceful resolution of this. That's our objective. We hope that the added deterrence the work that we've done in the Strait of moves to keep the Straits open and now the additional channel aired defense systems and capabilities that will put in the region will achieve just that mister secretary the Saudis reportedly already have over a dozen Patriot missile batteries and yet a swarm of explosive-laden drones and cruise missiles got through what descending a few more air defenses over there do that those other air defences did not. It'll improve improve. It's it's about volume and density Martha. You know this story well. It'll improve the capabilities for them. We're going to assess the MARADAS as well. How we're going to strengthen all the capabilities at least there will it will make it more difficult and I'm glad you I'm glad you acknowledge this was an Iranian attack with Land Attack Cruise Missiles and UAV's that took place an act of war by state state. I'm here in New York will be at the UN all week talking about that. We hope the United Nations will take strong position it was it was designed exactly for this kind of thing. We're one country attacks another country entry. We hope the United Nations will rally around what it is. I know the Iranian people want less for a peaceful resolution and in Iranian regime that is not engaged in over five five countries in Tehran mayhem Mister Secretary. You say the plan is working. The stated purpose of the maximum pressure campaign is to reduce Iran's malign activity and prevent them from getting nuclear weapons too tough economic sanctions. Let me just go through this since you pulled out of the nuclear deal there've been attacks on oil. L. Tankers shooting down a sophisticated drone the customer that one hundred million dollars the attack on the Saudi oilfields and posing such threaten Iraq that we closed the consulate in Bosnia and reduce our diplomatic corps by about fifty percent Enron is now breaking the JCP limits on enrichment and storage so isn't isn't this campaign having the opposite effect you hope for for Martha's them of facts you had there are quite right but you started the clock at the wrong point. Remember we took over or when their previous administration handed this regime this revolutionaries zany zealotry zealot zealous regime one hundred fifty billion dollars they had they had fueled the very acts which you just described and created the wealth and resources for them to do that and I think you said some of those Martha Martha I. I think it's important that all of your viewers understand that drawing. JCP Not not after president trump made the correct decision to withdraw during the JCP away there were dozens sounds of missile attacks into Saudi Arabia by Iranian. There were assassination campaigns conducted in Europe this this regime I'm aware of that. You're sanderling during the way you you're disputing the fact that they they bombed an oil field or that the bozzetto muscles. It's let me say clearly they've gone that oilfield and we're we're working to extinguish their capability and we've seen it we've seen Hezbollah struggle with resources. We've watched internal final decision making about whether they should arm their army or the air force. They're having to remember Martha. We've only had these tough sanctions on since we're talking about less than five months worth the start start of the sanctions campaign not the middle or the end the Iranian economy will shrink by somewhere on the order of ten to fifteen percent this year and the regime gene knows their people won't stand for this. They know that the Iranian people understand that they're adventurism bringing back a dead Iranians from Syria and from Iraq is not going to sit well with Iranian people and that's who we support and that's our mission sick secretary pompeo president trump has had some very strong words some very strong tweets about Iran. Let's go to one of them to Iran and President Ruhani never ever threaten the United States again or you will suffer consequences the likes of which few throughout history of ever suffered effort before we are no longer a country that will stand for your demented words violence and death be cautious that was a year before. Ron Shot down that hundred thirty million dollar drone in the consequences of that where that the US reportedly launched a cyber attack and play sanctions on the T. I told Senator Lindsey Graham said he believes Iran saw this as a sign of weakness by the US. Why do you believe the US response now. Economic sanctions is sufficient to deter Iran on in the future president trump and I both want to give diplomacy every opportunity succeed but I think the whole world knows that when when that fails when it's the case that we no longer believe that we can convince the Iranian regime to be haven the way that we've asked them to behave just just to behave like a normal nation. I think the whole world well knows including the Iranian regime of American military. Might Are you confident. We can avoid war. Iran doesn't seem confident. We're working towards that. I've watched touched. Watch their leadership. Talk about all out war. Talk talk about the destruction death of Israel wiping the stay. Remember Iran began as any Semitic any western any modern. That's the history of this regime. Ma Martha you know well for forty years are administrations taking on in a serious way and we are working diligently to see that this has a diplomatic outcome but make no mistake about it if we're unsuccessful in that and Iran continues to strike this way I'm confident the president trump will make the decisions necessary sorry to achieve our objectives and I want to turn to this whistle blower complaint mister secretary the complaint involving the president and a phone call with the foreign leader leader to the director of National Intelligence Inspector General. That's where the complaint was lodged by the whistleblower. The Wall Street journalists reporting that president trump pressed the president kind of Ukraine eight times to work with Rudy Giuliani to investigate Joe Biden son. What do you know about those conversations so you just gave me a report about a whistle blow compaign none of which I've seen I can tell you about this administration's policies with Ukraine thing I remember the previous administration was bagged begged by the Ukrainian people to deliver defensive arms so that they can protect themselves from Vladimir Putin and Russia and they gave them blankets. This administration took seriously the responsibility Ukraine people. We've provided now on multiple occasions resources so that the Ukrainians can defend themselves We've worked on that. We we're working. We'll see presence Alinsky this week. We want a good relationship with the let me read independence but Marseille spent is but lemme Lemme Lemme ask you this question Ukrainian presidential readout of the conference conversations said they discussed quote investigation of corruption cases which inhibited the interaction between Ukraine and the US say the president tweeted Saturday. It was a perfectly fine and respectful conversation. Do you think it's perfectly typically find to ask a foreign leader to investigate a political opponent. I think that's a statement from the Ukrainian. Foreign Ministry said there was no pressure applied in the course also the conversation. I I do think I do think if Vice President Biden behaved inappropriately fee was protecting his son and intervened with the crane leadership in a way that was corrupt. I do think we need need to get to the bottom of that Martha and I. I hope that we will hope that if vice president Biden engaged behavior that was inappropriate. I hope the American people will come to learn that we've seen happening. The Russians interfered with America cannot have our elections interfered with and if if that's what took place there if there was that kind of activity engaged in by Vice President Biden we need to know there's no evidence of that yet but if the conversation was perfectly fine as president trump said why not release the transcript or a portion to the public ah I'll have the White House will have to explain the their load you know Martha. We don't release transcripts very often. It's the it's the rare case those are private conversations between world leaders and it wouldn't be appropriate to do so in the most extreme circumstances. There's there's there's there's no evidence that that would be appropriate here at this point. Okay thanks so much for joining us this monkey. Tehrik Pompeii appreciate it. 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It's a truly affordable option and listeners can get ten percent off up your first month by going to better help. Dot Com slash this week fill out a questionnaire to help them assess your needs and get matched with a counselor. You'll love have we will work with our allies and tried to bring ron back into more responsible behavior at the same meantime addressing all five of the threats that Iran constitute the nuclear issue which for most certainly the terrorism issue the ballistic missile efforts to have cyber attacks they've been conducting and then the threats to to International L. Palmer's that was former defense secretary general James Mattis testifying before Congress on the threat posed by Iran General Mattis is the author serve a new book called call sign chaos learning to lead and general. Mattis joins US now Secretary Mattis. I know you're hesitant to talk about the trump could ministration and current events because of sensitivities but you have dealt with Iran for decades. We know they want sanctions lifted. But what do you think Iran is thinking king. At this point. We'll Iran. Martha is continuing to do what they've done. Nearly four decades now and that is be a destabilizing influence as they promote their their brand of how they want the Middle East to go their brand of how they want to lead the middle leased into this revolutionary fervor that gives the revolutionary regime. It's it's Bona Fides. They WANNA THEY WANNA look the leader and they're trying to craft a foreign policy that pushes others around and this is the same thing they've been doing for many many years not the Iranian people but the Iranian regime but these taxes I said to Secretary Pompeo have increased significantly in the past few months and why well the Iranian in terms of leading right now feel. They're under pressure. They are under pressure and they're going to react the way they've always reacted. Just a few years ago they put together a plan to murder the Saudi Arabian ambassador to Washington. DC less than two miles from the White House. This is the way this regime conducts policy and has been for years since they attacked ktar embassies. They've attacked other people diplomats. They've murdered the former prime minister of Lebanon. This is their modus operandi. There's nothing new here as you mentioned in your book. You mentioned two instances where you felt. The United States didn't respond forcefully enough to Iranian aggression that two thousand thousand eleven the US foiled the Iranian plot to bomb that restaurant in Washington and there was another in twenty twelve after an Iranian fighter jet tried to attack an American drone. Here's what you wrote about responding to that drone attack. I wanted calculated actions to restrain the regime so couldn't thrust us into a war yet once again the Iranians had not been held to account an anticipated that they would feel emboldened to challenge us more in the future looking at today. Are you concerned. Sern debtor Ron once again feels emboldened to challenge us more. I think anyone looking at this situation. judges that Martha this is not something that should be simply an American administration policy you see other nations is pump. peyot just mentioned mentioned coming in to help on the freedom of navigation patrols. This is one of those situations where we need our allies our partners and when need them you have to build trust that we have a coherent strategy and we're going to need to promote that and convince them persuade our allies to be with us because this is an issue. That's going to be best satisfied. Best out possible. Outcome will come from a coalition of nations that want a stable Middle East and that has has to be our goal to stabilize this situation as soon as possible. Are you concerned the US withdrawal from the nuclear deal which the Europeans did not want could now complicate those efforts to work with them to counter Iran's aggression. I think what we have to do. Is We have to play the ball. Were at lies right now. L. And we need to work with our allies. Come up with a very clear political end state that we're trying to achieve which I think is pretty easy to articulate that we want in Iran. Ron Doesn't destabilize the Middle East doesn't attack its neighbours. Dozen tried to kill diplomats. I mean these are pretty fundamental pretty basic principles and then we work together economically diplomatically and in all other areas in in the defense areas well to neuter what Iran on is trying to do the mischief. They're trying to create. Do you believe there should be a military response to what just happened. Well I now that I'm outside the outside the area of responsibility a position of responsibility. I'm always reluctant not knowing knowing the full story to give advice like that Martha. I think what we WANNA do is absolutely use every diplomatic and economic means in Tech Tapan Pompilio made clear the New York City to help orchestrate that as we tried to stop the destabilizing behavior but at the same some time to get a longer term degree of stability there in the region the the world needs this the economy the world's economy needs it and certainly the people in that region don't need ron be continuing this kind of behavior. Secretary Madison just wanted turn to something else. That's in the news and it's the the whistle blower for investigation president trump just said I hope they can put out that conversation. Should a president be asking foreign leaders to investigate political opponents. Yeah Martha. This is not something I've any background on. I don't know anything more than what I've read in the news and apparently no one has seen the complaints. I I really prefer to talk about things. I I know more about okay then. Let me turn to leadership. That's that's what your book is about leadership and your life in your position in the Marine Corps. What do you think it takes to be a good leader. Well I think the most important thing that you have to have to be a good leader. Is You have to have the ability to build trust and that starts with listening. I'll put it in George Washington Pinton words listening learning helping and then leading in other words you start by understanding what others face and then you figure out a way to help awesome and as you do that by by helping them you actually create the position from which your leadership will be listened to and be acted on so so. I think it's rather old formula rather dry formula but it worked for George Washington when he was leading a revolutionary army and I think it works today and one one of the ways you and your book is saying what concerns you most is not external adversaries. It's our internal divisiveness. What do you do about that. I think we have to look at it as a problem. In our society a democracy cannot work without compromised rush and we're going to have to learn to listen to one another really understand learn from one another except the fact once in a while the people we disagree with might actually be right eight and win an election. Dover when we're done dividing ourselves and going into the voting booze and having good strong arguments with one another once the election there's decided let's let's get back together. Start Governing. We owe our children. We owe the next generation a lot better than what we're doing today in terms of solving our nation's nations problems Secretary Mattis. It's always great to see you feel like we're a long way from look at this time have a good weekend. Thank Martha in one thousand nine. Hundred Sixties Ladder of opportunity in journalism was largely close to her and other women. Here's a person who eventually wrote six six six national bestselling books and yet after we were married and moved to New York. She was told repeatedly by various editors. We do not hire women to be writers. Steve Roberts they're delivering the Eulogy for his wife. COKIE Roberts here in Washington yesterday surrounded by family friends and colleagues of Kochi and I'm happy to be joined by some of those friends and colleagues here at our our roundtable which says a lot about that ladder today Donna Brazile a Fox News contributor and former DNC chair and like cokie a proud Louisiana in a native Karen tell the political columnist for the Washington Post and a longtime friend of Kochi Mara Liasson she worked side by side with cokie for years at NPR MPR where she serves as national political correspondent and our Karen Travers Cokie mentored her here at ABC from her time as a college intern at this week to her current role as an ABC News correspondent. We're going to get to our thoughts on cokie in a little bit but we're going to start with the news justice cokie he would've wanted us to do and Karen Tumblety. I want to start with you and pick up on Iran. You heard with Secretary Pompeo said because the president's maximum pressure campaign seems to be having the opposite effect of what they wanted to do. Despite what Secretary Pumped Peyot says so the question is can the president let Iran get away with vis attack well. I think that that is one of the things that a lot of other countries are going to be wondering about this week at the UN General Assembly. The president's silence messaging has been so inconsistent on this truculent one moment you know talking about peaceful solutions the next I think that ah he is confusing a lot of people in this country but also a lot of other countries around the world in more of the president doesn't really appear to I know how he wants to respond to things in mind. He doesn't want to disrupt the economy certainly and he doesn't want to go to war for for someone who said they were get this out of wars and I would add to that. He doesn't WANNA look weak. Live that is pretty hard. You can do all those things at once. His critics say he talks loudly and carries a small twig the president wants the benefits of looking tough but now this is real life and he created a maximum pressure campaign to really put the screws to Iran and and what did he think would happen after Iran pushed back. He says he's locked and loaded. He also says he doesn't want a war. He sends a couple of hundred troops to Saudi Arabia. The message to Iran is hey. You got away with this and care triggers. What what are you hearing. You do a lot of radio two ways as we call them with radio hosts around the country and get such took great sense of what people are thinking. What are they asking you about this or they tuned in. There was a big difference from Monday to Friday on Monday. After the president's locked and loaded tweet over the weekend there were a lot of concerns that a military strike was imminent and a lot of questions about what the US interest was here. What is the national security interests. That's at stake as the president dialed back from from that talking about winning a peaceful solution the question I heard most this week was a credibility question. Why should we believe the trump administration when they say that Iran absolutely did did this. And why should we believe the trump administration that the strategy they're going to pursue is correct. The president himself has questioned his own intelligence agencies. The President has misled misled on issues big and small including most recently that Hurricane Doreen map so that was referenced a lot this week to me. They haven't presented any evidence. They have not so without the evidence. The question was why should we trust them on such a big national security issue and and Karen I WANNA turn to the whistleblower complaint and how that's playing out and what the president could do said just a short time ago. I hope they put this conversation out. How big a problem do you see this for. The president of the president has been talking talking about this now for three days. He's been tweeting about it and his strategy. Here seems to be deflect and distract so on the one hand. He said he had a beautiful perfectly fine conversation. He didn't say anything wrong but if he did it doesn't matter anyway and we've heard this strategy from the president before he's calling it a witch hunt. He's trying to muddy the waters in such a way that if you're a supporter of the president you think this is not a big deal and it's the latest thing that the Democrats and the media are GONNA make a big deal out of don't support the president. You think hi this is Donna. This got to be personal for you. Had Your emails hacked in twenty sixteen by the Russians when you look at this. What do you say well first of all. I I say never again. I mean we should not allow the president of the United States put his personal and political interests above the interests of our national security once again. The president is do is divert attention now saying that the investigation should be on Joe Biden when we we've known for months the president directed his personal personal attorney Mr Giuliani to figure out if there was some there there and now the president is attacking the whistleblower attack in the intelligence the agency's he's doing all of this when he can simply say Congress Congress should do their job. Congress should allow the whistle blower to come forward and we you see the entire transcript Karen if he puts this call out. Do you think that ends it not recently depending on what it says depends on what it says but this is qualitatively a different from everything we talked about in the two thousand sixteen election because this is a sitting president using the powers of his office yes and if what has been reported is true about this conversation. I mean he is not credible and urgent that he's he's not benefiting from collusion. He's inviting a foreign power to collude. This is all very very different from any any qualitatively any any the of these controversies isn't a way for the trump administration did talk about Joe Biden. You saw you saw secretary pompeo immediately turn it to Joe. Biden sure this could end up being like the twenty twenty version of birtherism. Joe Biden did something bad in Ukraine. The Ukrainians have investigated this formerly and said there's no evidence of any wrongdoing what I'm Mike questions about today. He says he wants the transcript released. Does he really want that or is that yes. I'm going to release my tax returns and Shirl- talked about Muller. We don't know Oh but if it is released this is also different from two thousand sixteen in that it simpler for people to understand this is one conversation there is a formal whistleblower complaint complaint through the system and we don't know for sure that whistleblower complaint was about Ukraine right or about this conversation only we don't I know but at least these are small numbers of pieces of evidence that Congress is trying to get their hands on and it involves the president directly talking to a foreign country not just just benefiting from some vague vast scheme Vladimir Putin's and Karen. I want to turn to you for the twenty twenty race which we're going right into full speed a AH full speed and this new des Moines Register Iowa poll out yesterday with shows Elizabeth Warren overtaking Joe Biden a seven point jump for Warren from June. She seems to have all the momentum. Does she's the only one that really seems to have the momentum and I think it's striking to see all of the candidates events over the past couple of months is the racist steady except for Warren with that jump and Joe Biden dropping several points but there was a number in there that I thought was also interesting that two thirds of likely democratic caucus goers say they haven't made up their minds yet so this is all very early. There's a lot of time for that to change but certainly that boost is fitting the narrative of the past couple of weeks or Elizabeth Warren that she is on the rise right now. In what do you see the racist coming into shop. A focus and anything can change over the next two months but the other story this weekend is at Cory Booker has a signal to his supporters if he's unable to raise one point seven million dollars over the next five days six days he's out. He's out doesn't have the fuel feel and Karen Warren and Bernie Sanders have also been trying to turn the tables on Joe Biden arguing. He's the one with electability concerns. Take a listen listen to Warren this week. There's a lot at stake in this election and I know people are scared but we can't choose a candidate. We don't believe in just because we're too scared to do anything so can weren't sanders. Make that case against Biden effectively actively I think at this point again if you look at these Iowa poll numbers percentage of voters who say they are open to Warren's. Message is absolutely enormous so she does have. I think she has something I'd rather have this point than the lead in the polls which is the steady steady gains and and again. We're still over one hundred twenty days till those caucuses it tends to break late but what she's finding. Is that voters in the Democratic caucuses are very open to her message. Yeah and I think what we are seeing is. If IT ENDS UP BEING Warren Biden race we're going to see a clear ideological intrical contrast not only do you see warren pushing back against Biden's claims of electability. UC Biden pushing back on her policies how she's going to pay for it. Do people really want their private. Health both insurance taken away. I think you're GonNa see a clearer and clearer contrast in Karen. I want to take a look at how the president is doing the New York Times this week out with the story for trump trump a time of indecision they right. Mr Trump has made clear. He wants to accomplish something big but seems stymied as to what it might be. He has remained on the sidelines as divisive issues issues are debated and is treading water. Even on possible staff changes. He wants to make for fear of how things play to see need to accomplish something else. As with his reelection pitch he either needs to accomplish it or at least be able to talk about in the way that convinces his supporters so the economy is the centerpiece of his reelection message but there are troubling signs there and polls showing that voters are starting to give him more criticism in credit for it so those are worrying spots for the president and his team but on doing win something big. It's why you see the administration trying to rush money to build something of a border wall just anything so he can say. I built that. It's why you see these conversations conversations over the past couple of weeks about gun measures despite the fact that there's no indication that the president is on board with what is administration shopping he told supporters at a fundraiser this week in California cornea behind closed doors that he's a strong supporter of the Second Amendment and that's what he's going to stick to okay and I'm going to put twenty twenty aside for a minute so we can reflect on our wonderful colleague cokie Roberts and Donna. I want to start with you. Louisiana Woman Louisiana you know when I first met Cokie I was twenty. One got up here. Got Up here to Washington. DC and cokie Roberts found out that I was working for Gillis long as an intern and she said you from New Orleans. I was born in New Orleans racing. Ken and I say Yeah but the line was too long for your mom and she said I'll shorten it and the next month. I was in when Lindi box office. She was an amazing woman. not only did she pull that ladder down for young women like myself but she kept it down and she kept pushing pushing me she had to drive like no one else and you know this is crawfish com bridge there and on the back his cookies can. Dan Right where women's Leadership Forum National Archives Hokey constantly pushed us to be a better selves and she's on my wall along with by Angelo Coretta Scott King Shirley Chisholm so many other women who dared to make a difference in my life a great mental wonderful friend and Karen you texted me right away after Kochi's passing and said that when you struggled through cancer she planted her. If it was yeah you know I think that what what people her listeners what our viewers could sense about cokie was very genuine with her and I you know I it was not one of her closest friends but I can tell you I mean to look up in my hospital room after cancer surgery and there is cokie holding a big armload owed of reading material and a big fresh load of gossip for me which is I needed at that time as good but the thing about cokie was again. She was so generous in sharing her insights she had such a deep understanding and respect for the institutions of Washington which which isn't very fashionable these days and also she she knew the story of everything and Karen. I want to turn to you because you have known cokie Hokey. Since you were an intern here my could you now and she's always been so proud but when I read your remembrances of I those were so touching touching and I thought how did cokie ever find the time to do all so much for all been saying this week. She must have had more hours in the day to spend time at the hospital and to to do her work to write. All these books are twins were born very premature in two thousand fifteen and they spent and Kevin Kelly they're they are. They spent three months in the nick. You at Georgetown and our friends and family were signing up to deliver US Food and cokie signed up to give us food and she made it homemade Louisiana of course and she dropped it off on the front porch with a text that just said travelers the foods on the porch. You don't have to come out. I know you're busy plus. There's wind because I know that's what you need right now and their friends saw the sign up sheet where everybody had picked their nights nights and we had friends data is that is that the coca roberts that's bringing you food on Thursday and I said it is the cokie roberts she was that amazing she was so kind and gracious and looked out out from she called me almost every week then so it wasn't just the work it was the life you mentor and role model. She was outside of this building left very review our our. She was one of those people who slipped very needed but look. I became a reporter at National Public Radio because of COKIE COKIE Roberts. I was a newscaster. I wanted to be reporter and she by some miracle kind of decided that I should be her number two in Congress when she was the congressional correspondent and I got to work under her learn how to do it. Which is she gave me an amazing education we would go into the majority leader's office in the morning for for the pen and Pad Gaggle and she would grill him because I'm sure she knew him since they were both in diapers and then trailed behind her in the bowels of the capital because she knew every single tunnel special special ed and then she go and talk to one of the workers in the cafeteria who she'd also known since she was a girl and she treated them with the exact same respect and dignity and she had such a moral moral clarity about everything and I wouldn't be here without her. None of us would so what is your definition of womanizing Sam well. It's not mine. The relations are made to not have no woman is term. What is your definition to turn. I don't know that if you take women have a know it when they see it senator a classic moment from one of cookies earliest appearances on this week back in one thousand nine hundred eighty nine. She was a fixture on this week with David Brinkley joining. Sam Donaldson and George will unquestioning the powerful and debating all the week's news and in nineteen ninety six. She became co anchor of this program. Sam and George are standing by to reflect Aktan cokie but first a look back at her time here on this week from ABC this week with hope you Sam Donaldson Nineteen ninety-six cokie Roberts the new co anchor of this week new set new program but a lot of familiar faces the featured guest that morning then Senate majority leader Republican Trent Lott back and wait and see what comes comes in your direction direction look we we haven't worn in yet just one of hundreds of interviews on this program challenging presidential candidates on the tax tax pledge. Would you take it again prominent public figures Mr trump the only people we've ever elected president who have not been elected to another office office one wars George Washington Ulysses Grant Dwight Eisenhower. Why would we take seriously variously running for president and First Lady's as the mother of a son who I'm extremely fond of it must be an odd notion to see your little boy running for president but it is an ocean except I really you know you're interviewing the wrong person. I think he's close to perfect through. It'll Paul bringing her signature wit to Sunday morning. All the surveys December is the most stressful month and I agree. I don't know why it should be stressful for men this. This is a month where women do all the cooking all the shopping but hey go ahead and be stressed. If you want to okay a steadying force leading and sometimes rallying a feisty roundtable now they've done politics religion sex we will end this roundtable our compass all these years slater can. The president learned from his mistakes well. We haven't seen that in the past and the question is whether he can do it in the future still contributing to this program whenever possible her last appearance just a month ago. Health issues not stopping her from telling it like she saw it. It's not mental illness homeless. It causes nine people to die in thirty seconds. It's a high gauge weapon and above all putting putting family first her husband. Steve by her side for more than fifty years mother to her two children Leeann Rebecca Cock and her six grandchildren all celebrating marriage friendship life and love together and inspiration spearation to her viewers and to those of US lucky enough to call her a colleague and a friend and Sam Donaldson and George which will join me now gentlemen. It's great to see you and have you back here Sam. I WANNA start with you. Just you watched that. What are your reflections there. Martha just watched four bright. Women on the roundtable discussed the news of the day in Kochi joined us. She said I came up to the seventh floor conference room and it was like going into the lion's den David Brinkley the icon George Will Sam Donaldson the District Attorney Well. She tamed US and she changed the business. She helped bring women as you you know and I've just heard your panelists say that into full power not just for power but we are now the endangered gender George. I think you've got nothing to worry about. Their sales cokie would say that is well George. What are your thoughts. It's been well so that the past is is another country and cokie was from another Washington Washington before tribalism swallowed civility Washington before constant hysteria. Daria was taken as a sign of sophistication. She'd lived here long enough known enough people on both sides of the aisle to see many fighting face come acropper on the Iraq's reality so she was headed kind of emotional equilibrium that gave her a special credibility in the town of as I say constant hysteria diarrhea and she was constant with that emotional equilibrium and as I said that that moral clarity semi one I want you to think back in some of the great anecdotes because I know you have so many and and and some moments you shared with Kochi that we didn't see they're on their well. Everyone's been playing a clip of Kochi great ability to puncture a composite. He was so gentle and it's a lovely positive so nineteen eighty nine of John Tower from Texas senator was nominated to be secretary of defense but he had a lot of enemies on the Senate and they were saying well. He's drinking too much. He came to the show and started out by saying I won't touch alcohol as long as I'm in uh-huh but there were things that they said and I said well senator they say you're a womanizer both Sam what's a womanizer who I started stumbling around because every woman ever news watching the program and I would define cokie. Roberts spoke up very gently said senator. I know one one when I see one and John. Tower went like this just one of the moments where she used a stiletto not a hammer and did it charge. The Clinton administration was having trouble finding an ambassador to the Vatican suitable for the Vatican an acceptable by the Vatican they finally came to Lindy boggs and said Would you do it and she said I'm shooting in retirement. She was in her eighty. She was happy and she was reluctant to do it. Her daughter Cokie said mom do it being ambassador to the Vatican two things you love to do go to mass and go go to parties perfect. Could I just say one more as cokie very moral person who simple yes yeah but not all of Washington is that way she had very high standards and she apply those standards to both the Democratic and Republican Party and their members members and there was a time during the Monica Lewinsky affair with the President Clinton the president had confessed to the grand jury that there had been nine nine occasions in which there was a sex act at least that's what most people thought he had said earlier under oath to federal judge that it it had no sexual relationships with Monica Lewinsky well okay. How do we square this and the campaign was oral. Sex is not sex and a very distinguished lawyer. A fine lawyer came and tried to make the case on our program that was not sex in the meaning of sexual intercourse narco all that I stumbled around. Maybe you stumbled around. If you recall it came to Kochi. She simply looked at this again a very fine lawyer man. Dan doing his job and said. Do you think your wife would buy that and right to the point that poor man's space blank dropped George. We have about fifteen seconds here and just just what do we take from Kochi going forward was possible before and it will come again this kind of person who will typify the Washington not the Washington with a smile on its face but Washington with her incandescent smile and lives on a few lives see certainly does live on in all of us here today. Thanks both thank you as we leave you today. We wanted to let cokie do the honors with her farewell. Yeah well message here on her last co anchoring of this week with Sam back in two thousand and two Sam fifteen years ago when I first sat down in the a studio with you and George David Brinkley. You were looking for a skirt as you recall I never expected that I would still be here today and it's been fifteen gene fascinating years. We've been interesting places interviewed. Fascinating people seen a lot of history but the most rewarding part has been the people who've worked with the staff for the program the crew here in the studio around us the control room makeup room but most of all working review Sam. I'm not gonNA miss the five. Am Alarm mm-hmm and you and I will work together on other things but I will miss being with you. On Sunday morning. Louis the continuation of beautiful friendship George Stephanopoulos would be in this spot lot next week and we wish him all the best until next week. That's this week growing up here doing with everything that's going on now. I'm process towns even standing van Bardstown. Kentucky is a small town in the heart of the bluegrass state but Bardstown Kentucky also has secrets five unsolved murders over four a years rumors and theories and still no one is behind bars in Bardstown a new podcast from from volt studios. It's been almost six years. There's still a lot of answers. Are you hiring with indeed. 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Barr Offers To Testify On Capitol Hill In Early May; Pres. Trump Threatens To Close Southern Border; Still Pushing Impeachment?; New Attacks, New Tactics?; Undercutting His Cabinet

"The bad. This is here NCW March madness. Takes the courses the big, Dan. So miss a moment of the action on TBS CBS TNT and true TV and download the March madness live up to watch every game anywhere at anytime. Live. Good evening. John Berman here infrared or sin, and we begin with this breaking news to the president just threatened to block the release of the mother report. We don't know for sure. But depending on how you read what he just wrote. He might have a little background. I this afternoon in a letter to congress attorney general Bill bar said the mullahs report, we'll be ready full released by mid April. If not sooner and that full report is nearly four hundred pages, excluding tables and appendices. So that was mid afternoon. But then just minutes ago, the president the same president over the past week is said he's four the full release of the report wrote this Robert Muller was a hero to the radical left Democrats until he ruled that there was no collusion with Russia. So ridiculous to even say after more than two years since the insurance policy statement was made by dirty cop. I got the answers. I wanted the truth. The problem is no matter what the radical left. Democrats get no matter what we give. Them. It will never be enough. Just watch they will harass and complain and resist theme of their movement. So maybe we should just take our victory and say, no, we've got a country to run. So maybe we should just take our victory and say, no, what exactly does that mean is he now threatening to block the release of the report or is. He just broadly saying no to what he calls the harassment and complaining, honestly, we don't know we're asking, but we don't have an answer. As of yet. We also don't know what's in the nearly four hundred pages of the report. Democrats have no idea. What's in them, the White House and fellow Republicans? Don't know what's in them and fact bar told congress in that letter that he has no plans to share the report with the White House before it's made public or should we say before more of it is made public in fact as of now bar revealed seventy four words for Muller's report and that four page summary, seventy four words, excluding single footnote. And the title of the report if you include all of that. To a whopping one hundred and one words yet. Yes. Those words do include the fact that Muller does not think there is a criminal case for coordination conspiracy. But one hundred and one words at four hundred pages leaves a lot of room for possibilities to the four hundred pages. Exonerate the president has he's been claiming for the past five days since we received the bar summary or do the four hundred pages reveal details about key events absent from it. Details like what Mr. Muller's team found out about the Trump Tower meeting details like what they learned about the cover up and lies about the Trump Tower meeting details like what they learned about the Trump Tower Moscow project that the president pursued until the end of his candidacy but denied ever doing details like what they learned about the Oval Office meeting with Russian ambassador. Sergei Kislyak details like why the special counsel specifically did not exonerate the president on the question of obstruction of Justice. The report will come out attorney general Barr says once the DOJ is finished scrubbing the report of sensitive. And ongoing legal matters. And they're getting help with those retractions from the special counsel himself. Meanwhile, Democrats are demanding the bar stick to the deadline. They set for the release of the report without reductions that deadline is Tuesday, April second now, the news on all of this broke late this afternoon, just before President Trump was set to talk to the press. So there is a reaction from him on camera. And then there's that tweet he just sent out CNN's Kaitlan Collins joins us now from the White House with the details. Kaelin is there any sense at the White House? What the president means with this statement of saying, no, maybe to the release of the full report. So far, John we haven't gotten a lot of clarity. If you read through the president's tweet, the beginning of it is essentially what he's been saying for the last several days, but it's that last sentence right there at the end that really catches your eye where he says, maybe we should just take our victory and say, no that is what is going to have people talking over the next few days wondering what it is. The president is trying to say there because it's certainly not explicit. John one thing it could be is that love letter from the House Judiciary chairman Jerry Nadler in response to Bill bar earlier today, where he essentially refuted, everything that bar said in his letter. He said he didn't agree when with with wind bar said that letter was going to make it to congress. He did agree with the fact that there were going to be reductions, and and he also didn't like when bar said he would come testify in may. And instead now they're said he wanted him to come testify now. So that could be part of what the president is referring to. But also in the last several days, I've talked to several of the president's allies who have been touting bars summary on Sunday that letter saying that it is a political that it's a victory for the president. But they're also a little bit worried about these full report coming out all four hundred pages. Not that it's going to expose the president legally or criminally to anything, but they fear. It could be politically damaging to President Trump. You know, it is interesting because earlier today in public the president did seem to defer to the attorney general in terms of the reports release. Totally. He was speaking with reporters in Palm Beach. They asked him about the breaking news from Bill bar about sending this redacted report to congress within a matter of weeks, and the president seemed pretty on board with what board set. Confidence in the attorney general. And if that's what he'd like to do. I have nothing to hide this was a hoax. This was a witch hunt. I have absolutely nothing to hide. And I think a lot of things are coming out with respect to the other side. But I have a lot of confidence in the attorney general. Now, we should note that in bars letter today, he said, the White House is not going to get their hands on a copy of this redacted report until its lawmakers hands is well now he said in that letter the White House has the right to assert any kind of executive privilege here. But since the president has publicly deferred to him as he did. They're on camera that bar is going to be one the one making those decisions so John the question here is this bar going to try to cert- some executive privilege for any conversations of the president has had that is in that report. We're gonna put that question. Some of our best legal minds in just a moment. Kaitlan collins. Thank you very much. Joining us now from the New York Times White House correspondent Maggie Haberman. Also is CNN political analyst and something of a Trump human Dakota ring, so Maggie thank you for being with us. This latest statement from the president, maybe we should just say, no, I have a hard time believing that this is a real literal genuine threat to block the release of the mullahs report is this just more of a him messing with people on a Friday night. Because. He can or be sort of moving the bar, no pun intended. So the would the part of the report does get released by bar. He can say look we're being completely transparent. I didn't have to be it'd be it could be literally everything you just said, I think there's some of these tweets of his were there's not much utility and trying to figure out what the motive is on this one. He could could've trolling the press. Very successfully right now he could be reacting to television coverage which he often does or he could indeed be thinking. And I tend to think it's a little less that he's setting the bar two different point. Look, I think that I understand why the White House feels very good over the past week, and they're going to they're doing exactly what what I think that, you know, their political opponents would probably do in the same situation, which is say, you know, look, this exonerates, he's cleared. There is a difference between being cleared criminally and a political problem. And this report is a potential political problem. And so I think that you know, he said very clearly we just on that video. I have nothing to hide. And so if he's saying that, you know. Far is going through it for grand jury testimony sources and methods things like that bar can flag areas of potential privilege, but my understanding is he can't exert privilege. He can only do that. If you talk to the president, and that's up to the president. We have John coming up that eighty is possible. I think we can talk more about this that that the attorney general could withhold things because the president might assert executive privilege at some point like we see a congressional hearings. I do want to ask you because Caitlyn said some of her reporting is a sense of a little bit of trepidation about the unknown about what might be in these four hundred pages. What are you hearing on that front? Exactly that then I think time has gone on. There is a recognition that I think the initial high of the summary from last Sunday has worn off a bit. And you saw today that bar sent either some note or made a statement saying that this was really just top line findings, folks. This was not supposed to be indicative of the entire report. And I think that as time has going on folks around the president are becoming more aware of the fact that there could be things that are politically. Damaging in here. It may turn out that there isn't much at three hundred four hundred pages. That is I understand. It don't include the indictments or pieces of evidence. There's going to be a fair amount of information. They're exactly what information reflects on the president remains to be seen. But they don't know either. So they're getting a little ahead of themselves on some of what they're saying. And they're trying to get the headlines they want again, politically, I understand that they're trying to muddy the waters on this before it all comes out. What is the opinion right now, the president has of his attorney general, you get the sense that he's favorite person on earth that the current moment people's the president's estimation of people can change pretty quickly as you know? I think that he was very happy with that letter that came out on Sunday. I think he was very happy that the attorney general inserted himself into this in terms of saying there's no structure in the rules. I think that depending on what happens with this report. We will. We will see how happy he is the attorney general and the president both claimed there's a separation of the attorney general is doing. This completely on his own they need, and they need that to be the view because otherwise there is going to be a perception. And it may not be real. But there will be a perception by some that the White House got involved, and perhaps, you know, muck around with it bars. Already getting a lot of criticism for having taken the Muller report further than Muller seems to have I guess my question is any evidence. It's not completely honest zone in being at the White House. Trust him to do it on his own. I mean, I think the White House does trust him to do it on his own. I think highly Bill bar certainly the White House counsel's office. I think is a good relationship with him. And there's no reason to believe from anything. I know right now that there is there is some kind of exchanges going on about the information. We have another. It sounds like two weeks we see this. So who knows what's happening? All right stand by if you will I want to bring in former Nixon White House counsel and CNN contributor, John dean, also C N legal analyst, Shan. Woo hoo. Briefly defended Rick gates when he was indicted by the Muller team, John let me start with you on the question of the Maggie, and I were discussing there. We are told the White House. Will not see this before bar releases it it would be the White House who would have to technically assert executive privilege, but what's your understanding of what William borough could do here could he identify areas and keep them redacted because of the possibility that executive privilege might cover them. He could theoretically do that. I know of no instance, where a president has delegated or even tried to delegate executive privilege rights and powers. So I think what we're talking about is are there things that are gonna come up in the report that were given under the condition by the White House where they provided documents special counsel. And they said they reserve the right to invoke executive privilege. Well bar flag that and withhold it for some reason until the president does or does not invoke executive privilege. So Shan the issue. We know that William bars is an accomplished lawyer. And I think there's been evidence over this last. Week that he's shrewd political player as well. And I don't mean that pejoratively, but the mere fact that this report is four hundred pages. Nearly and we learned that today officially from him for the first time. There's no reason he could not have told us that last Friday had he wanted to correct. Absolutely. It was like bullying teeth to get that page out. Absolutely. There's really he's not in the realm right now where he's confined by legal requirements. So it very much is him exercising. His discretion when the points jaundice, raise is quite fascinating, one of the great unknowns. As we don't know what kind of conditions there were with regard to information turn the over by the White House to him. In fact, we don't know much about what he promised with regard to the president's written answers as well all of that has given bar an enormous amount of discretion. And he appears very unafraid to use that discretion, John he listed four area, Shan, where he would redact or withhold material in these four hundred pages grand. Jury testimony intelligence testimony also ongoing legal investigations and the number four. I want more explanation on information that would unduly infringe on the personal privacy and reputational interests of peripheral third parties that might be an area where there is wide discretion. I would imagine some arguments. Yeah. Oh, yes. That is a area of very wide discretion that's like his safety net there for what he wants to do. I mean, it sounds like the mobile report is what we call it process memoir prosecution memo, and that's going to rely heavily on the grand jury information. Usually there's tons and tons of quotes from that in the analysis. It's not rocket science to get rid of the grand jury testimony. It's quite easy anything that came before the grand jury if you take that out of the equation, not too much left takes up classified not too much left. Sources techniques. Now, you got really small amounts. If he then exercises this last one, which he thinks is just sensitive material in his judge. -ment? I you could be looking at just pages and pages of blank pages. There's a little bristling in here to Maggie in this new letter from William bar where he says it's been mischaracterized that his four pages were a summary. He's now saying it wasn't a submarine. He was principal conclusions. He doesn't like how this is being portrayed. I don't think that the five days of coverage that have been suggesting that he basically presented a finding before anybody has seen the report anybody outside of the Justice department. See in the report, I think that that seems to have bothered him. Again. I think this all I don't know to be clear, I really want to be careful about what we do not know, which is a lot no idea. What's in this report? But seeing something like this after his initial letter to congress last Sunday, it indicates to me that he wants to at least prepare the public or congress for the fact that there might be you know, sort of more nuanced portrayal, shall we say in the report than just saying there's no evidence of conspiracy. And a lack of its honoration on or or or charge on obstruction of Justice. But I've decided now struck was to prepare for that. Now, we're one week ago. Had he told the public there were four hundred pages there might have been a much different response. I think that is the one area where I think there's a really legitimate criticism is why they couldn't just say that out front. I do think bar was in a damned if he did damned if he didn't position over the weekend. If you know, he got criticized for taking just forty eight hours if he took longer than that he would have been accused of meddling around. So I I don't think he had a win win there. But I do think that in terms of just preparing people for as much information about the scope of this. I think that would have been wise so John dean key historical in legal question here one area where Barr says he will withhold information from this report has to do with grand jury testimony. Well, a judge can release that grand jury testimony and make it public. There's historical precedent for that in Ken Starr's investigation. Also, the Watergate investigation in my understanding and Watergate one of the areas where this be. Came a reason to make public was because there was an official impeachment inquiry. Does that incentivize congress now they don't want to do this? Democrats don't wanna use impeachment really in any way right now. But might they need to to make the legal case that they have a right to see the grand jury testimony. John. There's not a lot of excuse me. There's not a lot of case law on this that there are a handful of cases, there's some conflicting cases the DC circuit has been very favorable to congress. But as you point out, it's been in the impeachment context, not just presidents but judges, and so they they want to see, and it's very different situation when it's just a general oversight inquiry. The case law is very mixed there. So this is no sure route. If they do issue a subpoena that they can get this material via subpoena of the grand jury material and get they can probably get everything surrounding the grand jury and learned largely what did happen in the grand jury. They can get notes from prosecutors. They can get out of the things weren't actually presented in the grand jury, FBI summaries. But the grand jury itself, the sixty rule is very tight, Shan one other. Facet anything in these two pages, which are hold up. So people can see here that we got from William bar. He made a point of saying that the special counsel, not the special counsel team, the special counsel is assisting him and going through this four hundred page report to me that feels like a message that Muller is buying in may not be true. I don't know. But it's a message that bar wants to deliver. The Muller is buying into a bar is doing. It does sound like a message. I mean from a practical standpoint, John you'd have to have the teams assistance in scrubbing. What's the grand jury material and ongoing investigation. So that's really serve a practical point that he puts out there. But it certainly has sort of implicit atmospheric that all the special counsels mining into everything that we do Muller was not a part of the four paid summary the last week. So that he's a part of this now is interesting, Shan, John Maggie. Thank you very much. A lot more head brust, including a discussion with the man who's been pushing for the impeachment of the president is he going to back down after the bar, summary and Democrats have quieted talks of south Jeffords and later President Trump is warning he will close the border with Mexico as early as next week. What is behind this new threat? And the new deadline will have the latest ahead. Would you agree that the world could use a little more kindness? If so then you're going to love butterfly coins. They're real coins feature a beautiful butterfly on the front and attracting number on the bag. 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She says should focus on healthcare and the economy that is not what my next guest thinks. He's Tom Steyer founder of need to impeach Tom. Thank you very much for being with us. Look Robert Koehler says there was no criminal coordination or conspiracy with Russia. The attorney general says there was no criminal obstruction virtually no house. Democrats wants to go down this road to say nothing of the complications that poses for the presidential candidate. So why are you going to the mat on this? John. We're a grassroots organization. Eight million people have signed our petition asking that the president be impeached. What we're asking for is to put the evidence in front of the American people. We've said for year, don't wait for the Muller report. But when the Muller report comes let's look at the information, we already know from the public record that this is the most corrupt president in American history. And I believe we've seen him obstruct Justice. So I believe what we really want to do is put the evidence in front of the American people through public hearings through giving us his tax records. And by giving us the full Muller reports. So we the American people across the country can decide for ourselves. Whether he did what whether what he did was obstruct Justice and break his vow to us and to the constitution. Let me put it this way. We've only seen one hundred one wars that are direct quotes from them. The report, but among them are. He's says he could not or will not establish a criminal case for conspiracy or coordination. Is there anything that could be in these four hundred pages anything that Robert Muller could say that would convince you to drop your pursuit of impeachment. John. I haven't seen the mullahs report. You haven't seen the Milan? I know I know that I can't. But I'm trying to either say this. Okay. I will say this. We will look at the information there, which has been gathered over two years and try and understand what it means. But we have in the public record that this is a president who's refused to divest himself from his business and who's continued to do business with foreign governments and with American corporations. And that's what he has really Mr. sire, which is that are you for impeachment. No matter what the mullahs report says aside from anything that might be in there. There is something in there that I will look at very closely, and I believe honestly, and objectively which is what is the information that he's gathered on obstruction. But it's not just about me. And I think that's the point John. There's a question here. The American people getting to see this not the insiders in Washington DC, not the administration deciding whether the administration has been corrupt and lawless give it to the American people. So we can take a look, and let me say there is a real question here about whether the president is going to be treated equally before the law like every other American what about was ends. Now, what about Nancy Pelosi, which is that she would rather the Democrats in congress focus on other things. Let me say this. Congress has full capability, and I've asked them directly not only to go forward and try to pass legislation on healthcare and the economy, but they also have the ability at the same time to hold public hearings and let the Americans people see what is going on here. I don't think that's a conflict at all. But what I do think is true is we cannot normalize the kind of corrupt behavior that this president has shown before and during his administration. For instance, we note from the one day of public hearings that we've seen which was the testimony of Michael Cohen before the house oversight committee that the president was involved in felonies while he was in the White House. So from my standpoint, we need to have a series of hearing. So Americans can look and see who the presence around himself with and what kinds of activities they were involved with together and. Let us make up our minds. This is a political question not a criminal question. This is a political question about whether this president is corrupt and whether he's put his interests ahead of the interests of the American people, Tom Steiner. Thank you for joining us tonight. We look forward to speaking to you more maybe a couple of weeks when all of us have actually seen. What's in this report? That'd be a good thing. John. All right. We have more breaking news ahead. President Trump says he will close the entire southern border or large parts of it by next week because he says Mexico isn't doing its part to stop illegal immigration coming up. Can you actually do that? And what would happen if he does? Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. More breaking news tonight. President Trump is threatening to close the border between the United States and Mexico was early as next week saying there's no more detention space to hold undocumented immigrants last night at a blistering speech supporters in Michigan. He said a large part of the problem where fraudulent asylum seekers wanting to enter the United States. You have people coming up. They're all met by the lawyers the lawyers of and they come out. They're all met by the lawyers, and they say say the following phrase. I am very afraid for my life. I am afraid from my life. Okay. And then I look at the guy he looks like he just got out of the rings the heavyweight champion of the world. He's a freshman. It's a big fat conju ups. So if the president actually goes through with the drastic move of closing, the border would not only stop people, but also billions in trade. Join me now, former Republican Senator Rick Santorum and democratic strategist Maria Cardona a Senator let me start with you closing the entire border as a pro business Republican you in favor of closing the entire border with Mexico. Well, I'm not certainly not from a business respective. It's not it's not a benefit to our country's not a benefit certainly to the people in in the south west. I mean, it would be devastating to them. But it does send a message, and it sends a message to Mexico, and that's really where the vestige needs to be sent. I mean, these the you've got literally now even even those on the on the left or admitting that we've got a crisis down there with the with the huge numbers of people now coming all coming not from Mexico but from Cup traveling through Mexico. So this is something the Mexican government could do something about if they wanted to. But they're not doing something about it. And that's what I think the message the message of doing something more dramatic at the borders is directed at them is that how you see Maria. No, absolutely, not John. I think this president both said in his threats about closing the border and his disgusting. Mockery of asylum-seekers tells us that he actually has no idea had a fixed the immigration system and worse. He's not even interested in fixing it. He is using this as a clarion call for his base that is it. And yes, we do have a problem. We do have a crisis at the border, but guess how you fix it. You actually focus on real solutions. You actually figure out what it's going to take to help. These people stay in their own countries. That's going to take diplomatic relations. That's gonna take people understanding what is going on in Central America, and actually helping to fix and resolve and stabilize their economy and their government. Here's the problem. John to fix this standing immigration problem. It's going to be hard. It's going to take bipartisan solutions. Based policy, and it's going to take a real focus on doing this inhumane way. Donald Trump doesn't do hard. Donald Trump doesn't do solutions based policy and Donald Trump, certainly does not do humane. What about the language Senator? The Berea was talking about there. The mocking language calling it a con job from these asylum seekers who mave as you note are coming from El Salvador and countries riddled by violence as a man of faith, as I know, you are is that the right way to talk about these people who come to this country, saying they're suffering. Well, what what he's doing. Look, I don't like the president's tone. When he when he does those types of of mockeries, I I think it's not something that the president should be doing having said that he does he does point out that look a great number of fairly high percentage of asylum seekers do not succeed in their asylum, and and don't have legitimate claims. And I think you know, you certainly can make that case. By the numbers. He makes it by mockery and drama. And that that way we talk about it. If you made by the numbers, no one, we'll talk about it. So that's just the way the president communicates. And and you can like it or not like it. But he does get his point across and we have people talking about it look to answer Maria issue. The president doesn't do hard. The idea that that somehow and other we're going to stem, the tide of people coming to this country by diplomatic or emergency or economic aid to El Salvador, Guatemala that you'd want to talk about long-term that's long-term the short term problem, which is real has to be dealt with. And that is relatively easy if the Mexicans decide that they want to participate in stemming that tied. Hey, rick. But before before I lived Marie answer that I do wanna hang on once they. Is that her are you saying you said, you have a personal problem, and you want type use the type of language the president uses here, but making fun of asylum seekers making fun of people fleeing violence, are you really saying that's an effective way of making an argument. I'm saying the president's example, I don't know if you wanna call it making fun. I mean, he was pointing out Saul he called it a con job. And he's I looked like a heavyweight champion. And what I would say is that you know, that there are probably circumstances that fit that fit the Bill. I don't think it's an appropriate way to do it. But as I said, it's affected in the sense that it gets people to talk about the point of the number of people who come over here who simply do not qualify for asylum, read and shouldn't be go ahead Maria. But but Senator how is that helping to fix the problem by mopping, these people why doesn't he sit down with people who are actually experts at how you fix a sign. Silom? And the issue is actually not people who are trying to gain the system. The issue is an even actually money because immigration homeland security got a ton more money in the CR that we just passed the problem or the issue that we are missing is actually people that are wanting to and willing to sit down and focus on a solution. I can talk about too quick solutions right now Senator that would help to stem, the tide spent some money on additional immigration judges to set up asylum interviews on the border, and then you tight you try to do these cases and do them quickly. That's one very quick thing. But again this president rose not interested in solutions. He's interested in using these people to help his own political situation, you're interested in solutions here, and we will talk about them again, very soon. Senators are rea- Cardona thanks for being with us. I appreciate you up next. Legendary news reporter. Acre Sam Donaldson joins us to talk about President Trump's new attacks on the media. And how the Republican National Committee is reportedly gathering evidence to use against reporters who cover the White House. I'm Biagio Messina. And I'm jokin soon. We're the producers behind HSEN television documentary series unmasking killer. Join us as we explored the identification capture and arrest of Joseph James, Di Angelo the alleged Golden State killer in a special ten part podcast series unmasking killer, all new episodes premiering Tuesday. February twelfth subscribed today at apple podcasts or wherever you listen to podcasts. President Trump is backing attack mode. And he's taking aim at one of his favorite targets last night before a friendly crowd in Grand Rapids. Michigan. The president spent a good chunk of his eighty five minutes speech going after Democrats and the media who he claims knew all along that he never colluded with Russia. The corrupt media, and it's never been more corrupt than it is today. The media bosses bad people. The cricket journalists. The totally dishonest TV pundits. And by the way, they know. It's not true. They just got great ratings. So slamming the media in front of crowds and supporters is not new for this president. What is new the RNC in pro-trump superpac America first or reportedly planning on taking it a step further. A source tells the Atlantic the organizations prepared to hit reporters with thirty seconds spots, highlighting their quote ridiculous claims about collusion. The source also claims reporters tweets have been screened capped, and it's all ready to go ward winning journalist Sam Donaldson joins us now. Sam look you better than anyone know that attacks on coverage. That's not new, but a paid political campaign against specific reporters that seems unusual. That was the new angle last night in Grand Rapids. Do you know that was a lollapalooza of a speech president winner for almost two hours? Didn't he I think Fidel Castro wants went five hours when I tell him that customer would five our table. I can do that he might do it. But to attack the press, I do not know John who the democratic nominee is going to be next year. We won't be me. It will be a reporter. I mean he to run against us. He's gotta run against a real life person who may be president. And the issues are going to be important. He gives us he gives them healthcare. He says let's run on healthcare. Please please come ahead. Let's do that. Let's run on cruelty to children here in the United States. Look at his budget. Let's take money away from the Special Olympics. Well, mitzvahs had to backtrack on that. When the pressure got too high. Let's look at his record. He's running not the press and the facts will be out. Do you feel? Feel though that the repeated attacks that it could be politically effective. It'll be politically effective with this base. He's got thirty one thirty percent, whatever it is hard core. He can do anything I say shoot somebody in the middle of the day. It wasn't just a single one of their votes. But they're not the majority in this country. They're never going to be the majority. I don't believe you know, I did an interview with him in nineteen ninety. There's a course of interview about his business business was failing. But he blew a lot of smoke. And during the course of the interview he called me rude. He called me. I'm not that smart. He called me out to get him. So I'm one of the pioneers of the Donald J Trump attacked machine didn't hurt me. I just kind of went on. And by the way, I was not out to get him at the time of and I'm not out to get him. Now. He wants to run on all of this junk. I think his opponent auto run on the issues. The American people really got parent. They care about last November. They weighed in Mr President. What do you make of that? Did you win that? Yes. Election night. You said it was almost a total victory. Once again does he really know what's going on? Let me ask you this you covered you've covered many administrations and many presidents last night speaking before this crowd, the president said, and I quote ridiculous bullshit. He was talking about things that congress was saying about him any use those words are those wars in your mind that the president of the United States should be using. He's used them before what's the impact of that over time. I think the impact is to turn a lot of people off maybe not his base make excuses for him. When he was just trying to make a point. It was the locker room talk. We all do that. Nobody don't I'll do that. And if we do we do it privately. And just with our gentlemen, friends someplace have I use that word you just used. Sure, I have not on television. Not in public not to people if I do talk once in a while it this is a president who does not conform to any any rules norms of civility any rules or norms of behavior. I think most Americans want to see whether they want to see it in their house of worship. But they want to see it in their schools, but they want to see it in their clubs where they want to see it in their social life. He doesn't care. I think Americans care. I think you'll find that out, but I could be wrong. Sam Donaldson, one of my favorite, my absolute favorite. Former ABC news reporter, thank you so much that I've said it before you're too, you're too easily pleased. I appreciate it to him as I said, you're my favorite now to one of my top ten or fifteen favourite. Former ABC news reporters Chris Cuomo. Let's take a look at what's coming up on Cuomo primetime at the top of the hour. Easy. He was my mentor did a show with Sam he was. And he taught me a lot of my tax. He was my favorite year. One of my top ten you're up there. Okay. Let me tell you. It's the first time I've ever said this. I think Sam is wrong. One. He is maybe one of the first victims of the Trump PR machine. I don't think so I he wrote a letter when Chris Vlasto and I were investigating his net worth where he damned me back to the womb J B. He wrote a letter where he was going to sue me all of ABC all of Disney, and my parents. Damning me back to the womb. Literally. Even though it was written by his lawyer Vlasto. And I fear is that he only wrote it or had a hand in it. But he dictated because it sounded just like him and for the coarse language. He does it because it works for him. Sam is they are on the screen. I love you. It's great to see you Sam you look as good as ever and your points or as salient has ever, but I believe has coarseness is a device fan. Cuomo says, you're wrong. What do you say to head? I don't think of course, this is who is really the way. So I gotta tech personally on camera by him. You have a letter come on, Chris, you know, better than that. I'm the winner. I'm the big one gosh, it's infectious, isn't it? He told me Sam that the reason he gets audited so much by the IRS is because he's such a devout Christian. Yeah. He told me that during a debate my point is he says outlander thing never it makes people think he's one of us. He's not one of them. He's not a politician. He's not an elite. He talks like us. He makes points the way we do. He's about us. And I think it works vantage. I do we'll see how it plays out. But that's my sense. All right. Sam donaldson. Thank you very much for being with Chris. And I both collectively your favorites. So thank you for being here tonight. Chris we look forward to your show in about eleven minutes. All right yesterday. Stunning. Reversal on special Olympic funding was just the latest example of President Trump undercutting member of his cabinet. We're speaking David Gergen who worked for four president about this unusual patterns next. The cases we gotta find who wrote this. No, we do that. We find the killer. This science defined out. Police used Luminol a chemical which close when it comes into contact with the iron component in blood that drama, but where was the rifle, and which man was telling the truth for renchik files. The legendary true crime show is now a podcast. Join investigators as they take on the toughest cases with cutting edge scientific tools. Subscribe now with apple podcasts with new episodes every Monday and Thursday, you'll never miss out on getting your renchik fix. Education secretary Betsy DeVos spent this week getting grilled by congressional Democrats in hearings over the proposal to eliminate federal funding for the Special Olympics. It was a tough sell to lawmakers then she had to face the press which led to awkward moments like this one you're seeing right here. But the Voss stood by her proposal. Cut nearly eighteen million dollars in funding to the program then yesterday afternoon, a total reversal President Trump apparently unbeknownst to Betsy DeVos announced that the money won't be cut after all. I've been to the Special Olympics. I think it's incredible. And I just thought the rise a funding. I heard about it this morning. I have overridden my people with funding this special. So as Randi Kaye reports, this is not the first or the second time that the president has thrown one of his cabinet members under the bus. The president can't undercut his own cabinet. The president is the leader of the cabinet despite what he's press secretary says President Donald Trump does exactly that undercuts not just his cabinet, but many on his White House staff again, and again during the travel ban, first of all it's not a travel ban. When we use words like travel ban that misrepresents what it is just a few days later, the president himself still calling it a ban tweeting. What is our country coming to when a judge can halt a homeland security travel ban. Trump added again after firing then FBI director, James Colman. The White House staff has one narrative he acted decisively. Today. He took the recommendation of his deputy attorney general deputy attorney general who didn't like commes handling of the Hilary Clinton Email investigation. But in this bombshell interview with NBC, the president says Komi was fired because of the. Russia investigation when I decided to just do it. I said to myself, I said, you know, this rusher thing with Trump and Russia is a made up story. Russia was the reason Trump undercut his director of national intelligence to casting doubt on Dan Coats, warning about Russian interference after Trump met with Putin in Helsinki. He was asked whom he believed regarding Russian meddling in the two thousand sixteen election. Trump said this my people came to me and coach came to me and some others. They said they think it's Russia. I have President Putin. He just said it's not Russia. I have great confidence in my intelligence people. But I will tell you that President Putin was extremely strong and powerful in his denial today. And what about reports that the president had revealed highly classified information to Russian officials in the Oval Office team. Trump refuted that his national security adviser at the time quick to call the report false at no time. We're Tillerson sources or methods discussed and I was in the room. It didn't happen Q. The president the next morning seeming to contradict his national security adviser tweeting as president I wanted to share with Russia at an openly scheduled White House meeting, which I have the absolute right to do facts pertaining to terrorism and airline flights safety, President Trump undercut his former secretary of State Rex Tillerson to while. Tillerson was on a diplomatic trip to Beijing hoping to make a deal on North Korea. Trump tweeting he is wasting his time trying to negotiate with little rocket, man. More recently on the looming government shutdown. Vice President Mike Pence was the target after his office characterized the meetings he had with aids to top Democrats as productive Trump through water on that too. Tweeting VP Mike Pence team just left the White House. Not much headway made today. Randy K, C N N, New York. David Gergen has advised four presidents. He's also CNN senior political analyst, David when you see this this public really flogging undercutting of cabinet members in White House staff. What does it tell you? Tells me that this president has narcissism knows no bounds. Listen leadership one teaches you that. If you're going to lead a group of people that you want them to be loyalty you, but it's also important that loyalty run both ways. And this case the president continually dismisses others because he wants to be at the center of attention. He wants to call it. But there's something more going on here. I might suggest John and that is I think coming out of the the Muller report. And what he sees is complete exoneration. He's got a he's got a new swagger about him these last few days, you know, is he done? He's he's he's overridden about device one of the most loyal members of his cabinet. He's he's thrown a monkey wrench into the healthcare issue in such a way that his own Republicans are running scared from and take Mitch McConnell for for example. And he's also now declare video close the border with Mexico. Those are all acts of someone who really has a sense of. I'm in charge here on completely in charge. I'm going to do what I want. I don't really have a darn what other people think, and there's there's a certain arrogance about this. I think is going to in the long run cost him a lot. There is a hubris. It certainly we've seen this week. I'm not sure I'm not so sure that we see different actions from the president. Yeah. You know in the wake of that hubris because the splits in the undercutting of his cabinet members is really something we've seen before. And they're all those who wonder David if whether or not he treats it as sort of a public flow. He doesn't care splitting with his own administration. If he doesn't see the approval for some of the policies that he wants to out there. No, I think I've tried to. And I think he values sending a message to it as base it eases only independent guy. He's not he's not only not beholden to Democrats. But he's not holding anybody else in his own party in his own White House. And that's the reason he's got this huge amount of turnover. I think if you take all for presence I worked for combined. I don't think there's as much turnover. Has there has been this White House and in the last couple of years? They thing is there's something disingenuous about it. Because this was a Trump administration budget that Betsy DeVos was on Capitol Hill. I'm so glad you raise up point. Thank you. Yes. What that means is Trump to budget means that budget went through the office of management and budget where move Amy. And he still has used my power. And then it went through the west wing. It had to be approved by the president. They had to red flag anything in there. That was controversial get it by the president. Then it was published and then a high only learned about five minutes ago. I'm and I'm completely overriding. My my secretary damned. Yeah. I it really just doesn't pass the smell test that would have his stamp of approval going in and certainly someone within the White House knew about it the whole time, David Gergen. Absolutely. Thank you very much for being with us. Thank you for helping us understand, which may not be understandable. Sometimes really appreciate it. All right reminder. Don't miss full circle or daily interactive newscast on Facebook where you get to vote to vote on what stories we cover. Get all the details and watch weeknights at six twenty five eastern. Facebook dot com slash Anderson Cooper, full circle. The news continues soul handed over to Chris Cuomo prime time starts now. Are you? Interested in learning how great companies grow. 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The Ocho: How safe is Jason Garrett's job?

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The Ocho: How safe is Jason Garrett's job?

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It's available wherever you get your podcast and it's a great listen for Album get banged up a lot obviously throughout the game I asked him if you know and I know we mentioned this in our post game episode here but if there's any consideration to hey pill to swallow in the day after there was really no sort of saving grace to this I mean you know Monday was just a day where every the season I think you know that that point goes without saying everybody is of the belief that officiating is really really really bad right now across the league the NFL is that a division win means more right I mean if you're the cowboys in this instance there's no question that a win or loss is more meaningful but it seemed like the Green Bay packers did benefit from a lot of flags and penalties on Monday night at Lambeau field the officials have been a problem Audi right I mean they are a team that is I mean they're in first place in the NFC East let's be clear about that it is amazing by the way the cowboys lost show it is Tuesday October Fifteenth Two Thousand Nineteen Week Seven is not quite upon us I mean the week kind of like officially begins on Wednesday or fresh this is a rough time to be a Dallas cowboys fan I mean when you lose to the New York jets it has a lot of people feeling low about the team and that's that's the off of the final game of week six a Monday night football contest between the Green Bay Packers and Detroit Lions a game in which the lions were robbed by most people's account the packers but hey no big deal it's not like first place in the NFC north is on the line for lines so now the lions all the way to last place rough life Detroit the three one three needs our help but it is Tuesday and that doesn't change the fact that the Dallas cowboys lost to the New York jets on Sunday it's still a very bitter name I asked Jason Garrett when we had him on Espn San Antonio I said because the cowboys obviously played that game really safe from an injury when it comes against the Philadelphia Eagles as opposed to the New York jets the the most meaningless losses that the Dallas cowboys incur in a given season our losses to AFC benefitting as many people will say they typically do I'm not one that vise into the whole notion that referees favor one team or the other but there is data to support and everything I suppose I and that they're in first place in the NFC they were in second place a week ago and of course they're tied with the Eagles you know my point I mean they have the same record but when it comes down to tiebreakers I mean they were Espn San Antonio or you know in his daily press conferences and again we do recap those for your blocking the boys dot com you'll get those tomorrow Thursday and Friday but I mean in point I mean think about all the players that were hurt and I'm not saying this was by design by any means but I mean they had injuries to tyron Smith Lyle Cons Randall Cobb we saw Amari Cooper leave the game very early okay you know Taryn loyal they're kind of close you know I'd rather than be back for the eagles game to me back for the jets game because the reality of football and you know got to execute better you got to be more disciplined things like that it's just call what is this is going to be a frustrating week for a lot of people I mean the Dallas cowboys was asked about what he saw and Sam darnold former Southern California guy feeling a little confident and Sam Darnold Gore said you know there's none of that going on the cowboys are trying to win every game and and this and that I don't buy that completely but he's not that's quarterback Sam Darnold this is the first win of the season for Sam Darnold has mentioned in his second game obviously had the mono and whatnot and Sam Darnold after the game against pick one of the upcoming two games to lose the jets the eagles there's no question that we would have all chosen the jets 'cause that's the one that means the least But Jason Garrett John Answer that as a cowboys fan you're probably not going to appreciate this is from New York jets dot com did you get the sense that the cowboys were were loading the box particularly ages lived in this I filled in on Espn San Antonio Blitz joined Jason and Rob Thompson we had Jason Garrett on and I mean you hear Jason Garrett I wanNA five three years I wanNA beat all the other NFC teams that you maintain wildcard advantages and I buy advantages and things like that so if if I told you a week ago that you had come out and say that nobody would come out and say that's just the way it is but before we completely put the jets behind us I think we need to visit a couple of things and the first comes from New York before we put darnold completely away in terms of subjects I do want to play something that I don't watch get up personally I'm more of a good morning football person but something that was they just play one high occasionally too high and you know they they like to stop the run and I knew that I had to throw the ball today have success and we did that they did teams if you're if you have to lose four games you want them to be to the entire AFC division that you play that's just the way the rules work you want to have a perfect record on your division you said on ESPN's get up by Mike Greenberg obviously famously from Mike and Mike and Mike Greenberg very proud New York jets fan and Hyde or a and subsequently second place a week ago and even though they lost their they catapulted the first place and that's because they lost to an AFC opens entities in partnership as always being nations blogging the boys dot com my name Arjo Showa of course from Utd and from writer as you're humble host on the All my goodness dropped the take of the century Sam Donaldson Himself Mike Greenberg is on a whole `nother level this is from Monday mornings get up definitively the second best quarterback on that Field Sam Darnold is a better quarterback then Dak Prescott went healthy which yesterday was the first time that he was if you watch that game threw the ball minimally but very well against the Dallas Cowboys which obviously just kind of describes the level of defense at their playing artsy ever he's ever had in a victory for the jets I mean it was the second most passing these ever had an given NFL game but granted he's very early into his career But so Sam Donald Accomplished quarterback than Sam Darnold I don't even know that you can say you know the whole segment Greenberg says that Sam Darnold was unequivocally the best quarterback on that field. I don't even know that I believed yesterday you tell me if you're starting a team which horseback is it you want again New York jets quarterbacks seemingly and their supporters feeling themselves and but either way Sam darnold again you know he's right I mean he had to throw the ball to to be able to beat the cowboys did to be fair to Sam darnold point it was the most shutdown bell and not necessarily respecting the fact that that you were back there to throw the ball they just kind of do what they do they do it every single week it was think again you know Sam Donaldson threw interception so a very weird take but that's you know that's where we are I mean you know when the cowboys lose three games in a row things are going what they do is what Donald had to say about the Dallas Cowboys Wou by the way I don't know what was up with the crackling in that audio if you watch yeah I mean I think the next point that I think should be made here we have had some conversation on this show about whether or not Dak Prescott is one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL yesterday let me be clear. I'm a big Fan of same Donald I really liked him come at USC I think he's a cool dude I think he has the right so there you know sort of southern California but I think he's the right I'm Donald had a better game than Deck Prescott Donald had the ninety two yard touchdown pass that wasn't credible Dharavi Anderson Although Ravi did a lot of that work Dak Prescott battled through inconsistency employers following entrusting their assignments and teammates that does not sound great when you lose three games in a row you start to hear Murmur back and watch all the post game press conferences from different jets levy on bell had one Jamal Adams had one there was that crackling and all of it was a malfunction with audio equipment of the jets US Albert Breyer wrote about the cowboys struggles and you know struggling at cornerback and whatnot we know the secondary has been bad which is part of the reason why Chris Rashard has come under fire recently or a lack of following game plans that's a huge issue whether it's happening on offense or defense or whatever that I think bears watching I wrote about that by the way it's through in-depth coverage from local writers every team plus national writers you already know like Jay Glazer Mike Sando and Michael Lombardi athletic is setting a new standard and his much disgust job status we get into that next right after this break today's show is sponsored by the athletic a subscription based sports news site for Real Fan Olympics team power rankings and fantasy sports insights you won't find anywhere else each subscriber gets a personalized feet of stories live writer Qna's vigil and he came out in his first game back I mean kick the cowboys ass and so I mean you know you can take that however you want but the point is Sam Donaldson very talented is he someone for sports news there are no ads pop ups or Click Bait just great sports writing that tells the story behind story get exclusive player profiles deep dives be rough for them 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podcasts or in your favorite awed cast APP so everybody has a thought on whether Jason Garrett should be fired win that he'd been coaching for his career every day since this season began since the moment that Jerry Jones announced at the end of last season after the cowboys you know in the aftermath of the jets picking up their first one of the season and look that's what happens I mean people get confident and it is what it is but that take is in Mark Hey I'm Spencer Hall I'm Holly Anderson I'm Ryan Nanny I'm Jason Kirk and we're the host of the shutdown full cast your avenger first of all the hot seat is always hot when you're the head coach of the Dallas cowboys unless you are undefeated and winning super bowls the seat is hot for the head coach Okay let's be clear on that beyond that Jason Garrett happens to be in a contractor I mean if if you forgot that Jason Garrett has literally is length to unfashionable pants worn middle school we also do talk about college football every now and then like mascot fights announcers fleeing the booth early and unfinished following entrusting their assignments and teammates that has led to slow starts and some of the big plays giving up the last few weeks I wanna see that again an internal talking point has been the you can unequivocally say is better than back Prescott right now no of course not because that's ridiculous we have no idea who's going to be in to this point Dak Prescott is a far more aubain Quinn's on the hot seat in Atlanta and that's probably true but Jason Garrett seed has been hot for a while I mean this dude is is really accustomed I wanNA talk about Jason Garrett and I want to talk about Doug Peterson and what he said so before we do that we had to take a very quick break opposite here from our sponsors but Jason Garrett ars and because people are pissed off people are mad that there are three losing three in a row and they're losing however many in a row and so people get frustrated and so if there's a lack of trust of winning super bowl fifty four with Jason Garrett as their head coach than they do if they fired him in the middle of the season and replaced him with an interim head coach beginning his causes these days and look I mean the reality is he's in he's people love to throw out the term hot seat oh so and so it happen and really that's about it when it comes to his status as the head coach of the Dallas Cowboys there are not a lot of people I think who are for a limited in the divisional round of the playoffs that they were not going to extend Jason Garrett and they were going to wait and see what happened since then the seat has been scorching okay every day but he wrote this an innocence again from our brewers in Qb on Monday morning an internal talking point has been the inconsistency in players it's easy to forget when the cowboys are losing especially when they lose to a team like the New York jets is Jerry Jones and the cowboys brain trust they it is objectively true and I think that when you calm down you will agree with that because let's let's play out this hypothetical right couch fire Jason Garrett on insert date here that so to speak so you kind of have to ride it out I mean you do again nobody's GonNa win the Super Bowl with a fired and I'm going to say something that you're probably going to disagree with so prepare yourself I if you're driving you know I don't want you to hard turn or anything I'm not saying Oh boy is higher with Jason Garrett as the head coach than it is smashing the glass and pressing the panic button in the middle of the season we're talking about cowboys are a super bowl contender because I know right now you're GonNa go through the just lots of the jets but the reality is the Dallas cowboys have a better chance security coaching for his life and that's why I know that you're GonNa Roll Your eyes at this and you're GonNa have a problem with this but I don't think there's any benefit to firing him in the middle of the season I don't interim head coach that's just not going to happen. NFL team so the purpose of this season there are a lot of purposes the number one goal is always to win the Super Bowl as of college football podcast it says in the script to riff on what that means and basically what it is it's all spoiled every Tuesday we talk about everything from cooking disasters pro and again maybe you don't think that they're winning the superbowl in general but my point isn't that this team is one of the Super Bowl my point is that the chance of success for the two thousand nine hundred dollars sided that they were not going to extend Jason Gear that they were going to enter and play out this contractor right that's been decided for a long time that bed has been made this team was three and five last season he rallied I mean that that is true and so I don't think there's any real benefit to firing jason gear in the middle of the season for those reasons but it it being some time before the end of the regular season who is your interim head coach I mean is it Chris Rishard right I mean certainly had some leadership positions in his coach just the short term goals of two thousand nineteen here what whatever happens beyond that obviously you can discuss the merits of moving on from Jason Garrett and bringing in whoever else but the purpose of this season to a large degree is to evaluate whether Jason Garrett is the right guy and so you might as well play the whole season because I'm not saying so I don't think Jason Garretson any real jeopardy from the perspective of already in jeopardy you know I don't think the heat is higher alliance and goes and beats the Patriots in New England I mean just you never know and I know you're saying that's impossible whatever let me remind you this this coach I mean honestly this is the head coach who's Lincoln Riley whatever you WanNa talk about that discussion can be different day but I mean that's true I mean honestly is the truth and I think another sort of core truth I don't think it's hotter I think he is in the same situation he was even following the three wins in a row I mean he is in a contractor until he has you know if they were to lose fifty two nothing to the eagles and just completely quit in with her in whatever you know that obviously changes the context of this discussion but I mean a new contract if that day ever comes he is in a pretty hot seat because he doesn't have a contract beyond the two thousand seventeen thousand cowboys Jason Garrett obviously at this would suggest oh you sign them to eighteen year extension but what if Jason Europeans Eagles on Sunday what if Jason comes out of the bye and then beats the giants and then beats the Vikings would be again was on ESPN San Antonio with us on the afternoon and got to execute got execute got execute and you know we were talking about it in the pre show prep you know man it is though who eagles head coach Doug Peterson is Doug Peterson like a lot of coaches has a show on the local was and that's really saying yeah I mean our plan is to go beat the Dallas Cowboys I'm sure if you ask Jason Garrett behind closed doors he would say the cowboys plan is to be the Philadelphia Eagles Jerry Jones will be on on Tuesday if you you know if you're up early enough at this point to be able to catch that live we'll obviously discuss the highlights of that on Wednesday's episode of the Ocho but radio after after Eagles Games and He was feeling Pretty Gutsy Oh yeah Doug Peterson on sports radio ninety four only doesn't mean that people aren't going to be talking about it in fact I wanNA fight through the fan where Jason Garrett does appear every Monday morning following a cowboys game he he was asked point if he was worried about his job this is from the Sean and arduous show I want three the fan on Monday morning how concerned are you about your job status I don't really think about that here is that Rodman Ellie who's been a head coach before it certainly not killing more I mean you know they're not winning the super bowl like that I mean entry for asking Jason Garrett the tough question I mean that's that's the one on everybody's mind right like that's what everybody was thinking on Monday morning and it takes a lot of WIP had this to say when it came to Sunday's big game against the Dallas cowboys I know the sky's falling outside I it's falling and because that's the way it rolls it seems like eagles players did not learn a lesson from that because Eagles Linebacker Zach Brown before the Eagles I think what he said was really fair honestly I mean there are different types of coaches and there are different coaching styles in it seems like Doug Peterson has reached a point with his legal team that he feels the need to put him on the table so to speak I mean Doug Peterson's trying a bit more of a bravado based approach for this week's game against the Dallas cowboys action to be able to ask that question live on the radio so big props to Sean Connery Fan and again that audio courtesy through the fan those guys are great and Ober Fourteenth of all particular days now a timeline if you will from a trash talking perspective last year when Philadelphia Eagles visited the Dallas Cowboys you'll remember that line imagine what it would be like if if Jason Garrett came on and guaranteed a win over the Philadelphia Eagles can you imagine what that would be like etc because you know he would never do that I mean that's not Jason Peterson did not you know say what you may have thought he said maybe you read the headlines somewhere and you got pissed off it wasn't we're going to beat the Dallas cowboys I mean it was questions about the game dude if you say something dumb and then it blows up in your face you have to wear that you have to own up to it that's the way not even well it certainly makes for interesting talk as the week goes on and I will say this it is a bit ironic that this was said on Monday I just WanNa make sure I do everything I can every day to my job as well as I can do it well that was awkward I mean big props pity pointed this out I mean you know what I said was kind of fair I mean Kirk is the weakest part of the Vikings offense but you can't say that and if you say that they get that and the fans are are are

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WH Officials Were Caught Off Guard By Pelosi's Swift Response To Pres. Trump, Pulling The Plug On His State Of The Union Speech; Fear Factor; Sam Donaldson's Take;

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WH Officials Were Caught Off Guard By Pelosi's Swift Response To Pres. Trump, Pulling The Plug On His State Of The Union Speech; Fear Factor; Sam Donaldson's Take;

"Tired of spending hundreds of dollars prescription glasses. Xeni offers thousands of affordable eyewear styles starting at just six ninety five visits any today at Zanny dot com slash CNN. Hi, everyone. Poppy, Harlow gear in this week's episode of boss, files, charity, water, founder and CEO. Scott Harrison, how he went from nightclub promoter to seal philanthropist founding the nonprofit charity water sense brought clean water nearly ten million people poor communities around the world. His story is remarkable vowing to turn his life one hundred and eighty degrees. Check it out on my boss fouls podcast today. Good evening today. The president of the United States dared the speaker of the house to disinvite him from giving the state of the union address to congress next week. So she did this never happened before there's no getting past. And there's no overstating how utterly essentially totally bonkers. It is but keeping in mama's. It's also a side show. So thirty three days into a government shutdown we begin instead tonight with the suggestion if you wanna know about the state of the union, the president United States is not the one to ask these people are. You have a nine year old. So how is this affecting your family for him to come home and acts are we poor? Now. I don't need. I'm extra milk at lunch. A fifty cent milk. Literally thanking what's child would Mike as well. My grandkids who lights is showing through. I'm you the cash stay above water. You we start to decide are we going to let our mortgage phobe hind our car payments. So that we can feed our children when school was ready to start back here in Atlanta. And she said, you know, mom, I don't have to have a snack excuse me. It's very upsetting. I'm worried every day about you know, how much food I have in my house rather than go to the hospital and risk the bills from that. You just decided to take that gamble and husband didn't even know that. I was rationing. I just. It's sick. But like the thought of having more debt was scarier than the thought of maybe dine in my sleep. Her case, she was rationing her insulin. That's the state of the union tonight. And so is this an official at the union for air traffic controllers who are on the job actually, saying air safety is now being compromised. It is already less safe than it was a month ago. When we shut down we have critical components to safety that are not there, we have processes not their training, not taking place distraction in the workplace. We have controllers actually reporting to us that they're making state mistakes when they are giving clearances clearing planes in places where they shouldn't be clearing them in conflict with other airplanes because they're so stressed out about how they are going to take care of their family. Their livelihood is threatened. At this point. This cannot go on for months and years. It's not sustainable. Not sustainable you to prolong shutdown appears to be exactly what the White House could be planning on according to late reporting in the Washington Post White House acting chief-of-staff, Mick Mulvaney has asked agencies for a list of the highest impact programs. That'll be jeopardized. If the shutdown continues into March and April now last night, we reported that the TSA is asking screeners to relocate to fill in for other screeners who are calling in sick. So they can work paying jobs that is the state of the union President Trump wants money for his border wall. And he's not backing down Democrats have offered money for border security, but not a wall, and they're not backing down the president as you know, said he was proud to take the mantle as he called it for this. And yet more polling tonight suggests that people agree he owns the shutdown. According to new AP survey out late today, sixty percents, the president bears a great deal responsibility for it. It's for more than either Republicans or Democrats in congress. And again, he's said he'd gladly take the blame. Of course, he later said the buck stops with everyone not with. Him. And now he's saying it stops and Nancy Pelosi. The reality is whatever you think of walls and speeches and all the rest, the buck has indeed stop, and the bucks truly have stopped for people who badly need them before this began the president said that many have told him they're happy to make sacrifices for his wall. He hasn't been saying that lately, however, his campaign advisor and daughter-in-law still or. So in terms of the workers who are coming to work and not getting paid. What would you say to them? Listen, this is it's not fair to you. And we all get that. But this is so much bigger than any one person. It is a little bit of pain, but it's going to be for the future of our country a little bit of pain, which is a lot easier to say when you're not worried about paying the bills while directing traffic or screening or bags or stopping the next terror attack or just doing the jobs that we want done and doing it for free more now from CNN Abby FILA who joins us from the White House. Does the White House thing they have the upper hand in all this right now, we'll Anderson. This isn't exactly how the White House thought. This would all end they decided to today after a week of sitting on Nancy Pelosi's initially letter to call her bluff force her hand to decide whether she wanted to disinvite President Trump or allow the state of the union to go forward. It turns out she decided to disinvite the president. And now the White House has to figure out what to do here. They are scrambling to figure out. Whether the president should even give a another speech. And now, President Trump is you saw in his remarks earlier today is blaming Democrats and really ramping up his attacks on Pelosi a sign of the frustration that he's been feeling in the last several weeks as so much of the blame has fallen on him for this shutdown and yet again, Nancy Pelosi seems to have the upper hand and just in terms of alternate venues for the speech. I mean, do you know what they're considering well the White House. Aides have been considering venues either here at the White House, perhaps the Oval Office or the East Room or outside of the White House perhaps on the border campaign style rally, but Anderson one of the problems that they're encountering is what kind of venue will give the president of the same kind of gravitas that he might get from the halls of congress. They are concerned, for example, that if he does a campaign style rally that people simply dismiss that as a political speech. So they have pretty limited options. President Trump also was not particularly happy with his last Oval Office address thinking that he looked stilted and stiff this time. Around they need to find a venue that will give him the same kind of that. He might get with the all the members of congress on both sides sitting in the audience perhaps in some cases, applauding or standing during his speech. He wants feedback. I guess in real time. I I guess I understand. There's renewed talk by the president taking executive action to build the wall. It's a sign of frustration Anderson on the part of the president's as this negotiations. Have basically solved a source close to these discussions have told CNN that the president is once again thinking about some kind of executive action. Now, this be different from declaring a national emergency. But it would do essentially the same thing taking money from one part of the government applying it to the border wall. But we are also learning that in his meeting this afternoon with conservative leaders that he convened for this purpose. The president was noncommittal about declaring any kind of executive action. He didn't suggest it. It was brought up by others in the room. I will we're seeing here's conservatives really pressuring the president as well. To do something this shutdown has gone on for so long. They see the political damage, and they are also concerned that President Trump might be tempted to compromise with Democrats granting, for example, what they call amnesty for dreamers. So a lot of people frustrated on both sides, but the president still not willing seems to take that additional step either declared a national emergency or you some sort of other executive action for now. Thanks a lot to cover low and a good enough to the capital CNN's mono. Roger, what are you learning? About speaker Pelosi is thinking on cancelling the state of the union. Well, Anderson Democrats were no mood to have the president come here to the house chamber and lecture them about the government shutdown, especially since they believe this is all the president's fault. The president said himself that he would own this and Posey in fact said to her caucus in a closed-door meeting, I'm told there's no point in bringing your family here to Washington next week people took that as a sign that the state of the union was never going to happen even before the back and forth of the letters today. Now, you recalling initial letter which she urged the president to delay the state of the union till after the shutdown. She I cited security concerns, but then the president came back his own department of homeland security said they could they could secure that state of the union perfectly fine. She didn't said it was really about furloughed employees. And the fact that they're not getting paid. It's not fair for them to have to be forced to secure such. As a vet with all these high profile public officials. But in today's letter she made mention of none of that. She just said very clearly the government will needs to be reopened first before we do the state of the union. So it's clearly a point of leverage she hopes to use in the talks going forward. Given the standoff that we're in here heading to the fifth week of the shutdown. So I mean, this may be a dumb question, but could he'd just show up and give the speech in the rotunda. Could he delivered on the Senate floor rather than than the house? Short answer is no he's going to have to he's gonna need permission from Democrats to do it in the rotunda. He's going to need permission for Democrats. Do it in the Senate as well. He does have floor privileges to walk onto the Senate floor. But to actually deliver a speech, you would need some support within the Senate because that institution operates on concept called unanimous consent. Meaning everyone needs to agree and in this environment. It's hard to see that happening. So the president's going to have to find another venue off Capitol Hill. Yeah. Well. Definitely no unanimous consent. Roger, thanks very much perspective from presidential historian. Doug brinkley. David Axelrod, who obviously served as a senior adviser, President Obama. David. I wonder could you imagine any kind of scenario under which John bainer would have blocked President Obama from giving his state of the union address. No. I mean, you know, there were decorum was beginning to erode. It wasn't the state of the union, but the president of the healthcare speech, you'll remember members stood up and shouted at him. But it no I could not conceive of that. But I also could not have conceived of a thirty four day or thirty three day down. And it comes at a time when Pelosi is the new sheriff in town. She's a she's asserting her primis in the institutions primacy. And so it's kind of a caustic mix. I mean, Doug how unprecedented is this? Is there anything American history to compare it to? Well, the original state of the union used to always be a handwritten message all the way up to Woodrow Wilson in nineteen thirteen Wilson. Started this tradition of it. It's really FDR who calls that the state of the union, and then it goes for being an afternoon event to being a TV extravaganza. But big thing that Donald Trump's losing sensibly as his fifty plus million viewers mandatory TV watching, but it can't be postponed. I mean, Ronald Reagan postponed, the state of the union address because of the challenger disaster in in waited a week later to do it. And of course, you could go and if in there've been weird moments Gerald Ford in nineteen seventy five actually win and said, the state of the union is not good. That's what we're dealing with right now. Not a good situation. David this afternoon. You tweeted after two years of bullying at real Donald Trump has found himself nose to nose with an opponent willing and able to push back, but the government remains partially shuttered and to what. N? I what about that. To what end does the government remained shut down? Well, you know, here's where the Democrats have a bit of the high ground because they've offered to reopen the government and continue to negotiate on the wall, and the president wants the leverage of closed government to get his proposal around the wall. But you know, I think. One. I think genuine and legitimate criticism is I I don't think that the speaker with suggested he not come because she was worried about security. I think she suggested he not come because she didn't want him to use the platform of the state of the union suspend an hour, repeating the same argument he's made in other national addresses now trying to make the case for why he has shut the government down and why he is fighting for the wall. So you know, as Doug mentioned, she said he can come back when this is over and she's using this as a bit of leverage to try and force the president's hand dug, the president calling Pelosi's decision on the state of the union, a a quotes great blotch on the incredible country that that we love is this the great blocks. Or is the fact that eight hundred thousand federal workers, not getting paid the greater blocks on the country. Obviously, it's the eight hundred thousand you know, look, Admiral Karl Soultz today of the coast guard. Having to make a plea that we're treating our coastguard servicemen and women so Chablis so terribly that they have to go to food kitchens. And the like, this is an a horrific moment in American history. This is the great Trump shut down his poll numbers are starting to go in the backwards direction. By all indications. He's being blamed for this. And I think the president needs to now respond by doing a written state of the union. He wants to go give a campaign like rally. He can do it Fox News covered. I doubt the big networks or even in in CNN will probably cover something like that. And as was mentioned, he already had a kind of a state of the union a couple of weeks ago about the wall and network television carried it so Trump's given the written version, and then Pelosi should invite Donald Trump later before summer recess to come in in respondent and talk to a full congress. They've been Douglas talking about polls the fact that far more American. Blame the president for the shutdown than either Republicans or Democrats in congress. I mean, he said he would take the mantle for the shutdown. He later backtracked on that and said that, you know, it's everybody's responsibility the buck stops with everybody. But I mean, it looks like he's gotten his wish he has the mantle of it. Well, there's no doubt about it. He is taking on a lot of water here. And he is steadily his his poll numbers are steadily declining. He's clearly being blamed for this. He needs an offramp here that he can walk without being called a quitter by his by his base. And I think they're frantically searching for it. And but by the same token, I think that there is some there is some toll on the institution of Washington itself of congress itself. You know, I'm sure Democrats are beginning to get a little bit uneasy as well. Because every night the news is led with stories like the one Doug spoke of everyone knows people in their community. I was in the airport today and saw the poor beleaguered TSA people who haven't been paid. And the pressure is mounting. So I think Democrats are in a better position. Trump is in a terrible position. Both of them probably could use an exit strategy for this drama. What happens if President Trump does show up on Tuesday evening? I mean is that even a possibility would speaker, plus literally turn the president away from the capital? He might try to do an outdoor event by the capitol for all we know he might force people to try to tell me can enter the building. They're going to do something Donald Trump. I doubt it's going to try to just do a read texts off a teleprompter from the Oval Office and in big networks to cover this. But I guess he'll try to use it at to rally the American people to say, hey, this is the first state of the union delivered in Ohio, or or you know, Arizona or something like that. I think in movement Donald Trump has his best chance right now, not just to be sequestered in the White House while the doors of congress have been locked the Brinkley. David axelrod. Thanks very much. Good to be with you. Good to be with you a lot more to talk about tonight, including Michael Cohen backing away from testifying to congress and the key questions surrounding that decision to the prison United States loudly publicly and perhaps a legally scare him out of it later, legendary White House correspondent Sam Donaldson joins me. And what he sees when he looks at the White House today. Remember to create an ad like this one visit pure winning dot com slash CNN. The men everyone's waiting to hear from Michael Cohen today said he's out the president's former lawyer and fixer cancelled his testimony to congress and cited ongoing threats to his family's the reason threats he says from the president United States and the president's TV lawyer Rudy Giuliani. So let that sink in for a second. While you do want you to read a portion of the United States criminal code title. Eighteen section fifteen dash twelve tampering with a witness victim or informant quoting whoever knowingly uses intimidation threatens or corruptly persuades another person or attempts to do so or engages in misleading conduct toward another person with intent to among other things listed influence delay or prevent testimony of any person in an official proceeding. Also, quoting again, whoever intentionally harasses another person and thereby hinders delays prevents or dissuades any person from attending or testifying an official proceeding that is witnessed Hampton tampering as you saw it hinges on intent. So with that in mind, here's some of what the president has been saying. Ed in order to get a sentence reduced. He says I have an idea I'll tell give you some information on the president. Well, there is no information. But he should give information maybe on his father in law because that's the one that people wanna look at because where does that money that's the money in the family? And I guess he didn't wanna talk about his fatherly trying to get his sentence reduced. So it's pretty sad. You know, it's week at his very sad to watch thing like that. I couldn't care less. What is this father in law's name? I don't know. But you'll find out and you'll look into it because nobody knows what's going on over there. It's going to look into it. That's the nation's chief executive who. Article two of the constitution says, quote shall take care that the laws be faithfully executed either casting suspicion on or openly calling on law enforcement to investigate a close relative of a potential witness against him and doing it more than once. Let me tell you the other thing he's father-in-law's very rich guy. I hear his father Lord. I thought was the guy that was the primary focus. Well, what did he do? Did he make deal to keep his father in law out? Did you make a deal to keep his wife who supposedly maybe I'm wrong, but you can check to keep make a deal to keep his wife out of trouble. Still waiting on. Judge Janine to check. It is also tweeting about it quoting a negative report on Cohen and adding this lying to reduce his jail time. Watch father in law now for starters, we should say that Coen's father-in-law FEMA Shusterman once pleaded guilty to a financial crime relating to his taxi business and that was twenty five years ago. He's yet to be charged with anything now. So was the president suggesting he might be maybe or is he saying that he ought to be who knows whatever the case, according to legal experts could very well run afoul of that witness tampering criminal code that. We just read, but one legal expert if you could be called that says, hey, no prob. So it's okay to go after the fall now now. Of course, it is. If the father-in-law is a criminal and the southern district of New York in the plea wanted him to go to jail and said, he's lying. They don't buy the special counsels approach they say he's lying because he's holding back information that is far more damaging than the lies that sharing with them. Now, what's that information about about his father in law? We talked about Ukrainians his father wars Ukrainian, his father-in-law millions and millions. Of course, it's not I'm telling you come from the Ukraine, the reason that from portent is he may have ties to something called organized crime. When somebody testifies against your client, you go out. And you look at what's wrong with them. Why are they doing it? If they're not telling the truth, he's not he's doing it because he's afraid to testify against his father in law because the repercussions for that will be far worse. I think than the repercussions for lying here. I'm not sure what that was about. It doesn't sound nice. Does it? Anyway, when Giuliani and the president aren't seemingly reminding Michael Cowan of the consequences of testifying, the president is openly quoting and praising someone who is not cooperating, and I'm reading from the tweet, I will never testify against Trump statement was recently by Roger stone, essentially stating that he will not be forced by a rogue and out of control prosecutor make up lies and stories about President Trump. Nice to know that some people still have guts, keeping them honest. None of this is even remotely normal CNN contributor and former White House counsel. John dean could only recall one other similar instance, his old boss, Richard Nixon, telling chief of staff Alexander Haig that dean who had just testified before congress must be destroyed. President Nixon never said in public or anything like that nor has any president before since none Nixon was caught on tape and witness tampering became part of the articles of impeachment against him passed by the House Judiciary committee in July nineteen seventy four President Trump. Whether he's committing a crime or not. Whether it's an impeachable offense or not is doing what he's doing in plain sight and seems to have worked the house oversight committee is seeking Michael cones testimony. So the question now is what will that committee do next? Joining us now is a committee member congressman Gerald Connelly democrat of Virginia congressman, thanks for being with us. So is the president who with you ended in your opinion to blame for Michael Cohen, canceling his appearance before your committee, or is it more complicated than that. I think clearly there's a concerted effort from the White House of led by Mr. Trump and his hard gun Rudy Giuliani to not only discredit this witness. But to a by insinuation and no proof bring even more attention to the Coen family, and to thereby to intimidate us to Cohen and discourage his testimony and it worked. My understanding is the family of Mr. Cohen is very upset and concerned by the climate the toxic climate Trump has created for Mr. Cohen and discourage them strongly from testifying in open session. Yeah. I mean, the the irony is you have Rudy Giuliani bringing up the idea that the father in law may be involved in organized crime again, he's. He's working for Donald Trump. You know, who knows the thing about New York real estate? Do do you believe that the president or Rudy Giuliani? They've actually engaged in witness tampering because that's obviously something specific and legal. If they haven't crossed that line. They've come perilously close and their behavior. Ironically when they're talking about the mob. Looks a lot like how mob behavior looks like. And I it's a shameful moment for the presidency of the United States. Comes from Connolly if you would just stay with. I'm joined by Jeff Toobin and Gloria borger, Dan bash. I know they also have some some questions for you. Jeff. Sh should Muller. Investigate the president for this shitty. Add this to the things he's investigating Jeff. You know? I think that a lot of what we're concerned about actually has happened in front of our own is for example, obstruction of Justice. And yeah, I think we they went on television did this and it's had an impact. And I think it is absolutely worthy of examination by the special prosecutor before he completes his work. Does it make it less of a crime that someone does it in public as opposed to in secret? No, it's just a maybe a little more clever because a lot of us can't see what's in front of us. It's almost like it's almost like that story of the kingdom, though, close it's happening in front of you. And so you don't see it. But hopefully, Mr. Muller does it. Do the Democrats on the committee want to subpoena him? Now, do they think that it's this is important enough and would set a bad precedent for them as you take over the the congress, and you wanna talk to whistleblowers, etc. Is a subpoena in the offing right now. I think it's highly likely, and I personally do support issuing a subpoena to compel the testimony. We gotta remember Mr. Cohen was a voluntary witness that he chose our committee, and that then you to testify he was not at all compelled and his testimony would be in open and under oath. This new threat has given him second thoughts, and there's lawyers second thoughts. And so I think we need to compel testimony while providing him lots of security, but his story needs to be told the public needs to hear the whole story with some carve outs in terms of what's going on with Mr. Muller. But they haven't heard that. So far. And I think I think you're seeing the're coming out of Mr. Trump and his White House because they know how much Mr. Cohen knows. And they know how important his relationship was with the Trump organization. Congressman what can you do to ease? Michael Cohen's concerns about these threats. I is there something that you can say is there something a letter that you can write to anybody. Is there anything that you can actually do as members of this committee who want to compel him to come and tell his story, then I think it's a very reasonable question. But on the other hand, it doesn't lend itself to an easy answer. I mean, we're not on the security business where members of congress trying to do our job and provide oversight. We have a witness who says, I have reason a fear. We witnessed the same thing. You just showed in terms of Mr. Trump and Mr. Giuliani seemingly deliberately instilling that fear and and stoking those FARs of uh. Resentment toward this witness. So we've got to make sure he's got full protection is is physical safety or do. You think his fear is prosecution of his family? It's probably both. My understanding today was his family had real reason for physical theory. Say the toxic social media environment, which we live do do. You know? I mean had you plant. I don't know if you've kind of organize what his testimony was going to be. But do you know what the scope of? It was going to be able to be was he going to be able to talk about things related to Russia things that he discussed with with Muller or the southern district, and we're your staffers going to have a chance to essentially pre interview him. So that when it was actually public testimony, it could be much more focused. Probably yes. To the the ladder the rules of engagement with Mr. Muller had not yet been defined. My understanding is we've made overtures our committee staff to the Muller organization. We have not had definitive response for Mr. Muller, and that's work in progress. But clearly there will be some boundaries, and we will respect them because we don't want to jeopardize the criminal investigation. Congressman appreciate your time. Thank you, very, great pleasure. Thank you for having me. Everyone else is going to stay with us. You'll get a lot more. Discuss Bill conversation about this remarkable day and later, we'll get veteran White House correspondent Sam Donaldson's take a new reporting about Kellyanne Conway and leaks. The right sheets can take your sleep and your style to the next level with Boll and branch. The upgrade has never been more forcible. Every set is crafted from one hundred percent organic cotton. They get softer and softer over time. 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And you know, that's what happens, and that's why the witness protection program exists because bad guys make threats against witnesses and their families. What makes this situation in many ways worse is that the guys make the guy making the threat is in charge of the witness protection program and the Justice department and the FBI so Donald Trump his saying, why don't they investigate the father in law? Well, who's in charge of that? He is. I mean, it is it is the most clear abuse of power that you can imagine. And you know with become so inured to this. It's like, oh, just Trump talking. You know? But I mean, this is not how the system is supposed to work. But as we've been saying all day this did work Rudy Giuliani and Donald Trump scared. Michael Kohn enough one way or another to get him to back off at least for now. Now, what exit even worse we'll about is it a fearful of family being press. I think he I think he's he's fearful of his family. He's fearful that he will be in jail and not be able to protect his family that he according to the people I talked to close to him, and and the more this went on the more nervous. He got as you heard the congressman say at first he was a really willing a person who wanted to come and tell his story to the American people. And now, I think he's afraid to do it the question. I haven't one of the reasons I asked the congressman nece is if it's fear of security, that's one thing. And he said that is part of it. But if it's fair that his father in law is going to be prosecuted now that it is so. So out in the open and Giuliani and the president were so transparent about, you know, wink, wink, nod nod, I mean, it wasn't a week not it was a megaphone saying, you know, maybe the father in law. There's something going on it almost you would think potentially protects him because who what what US attorney is gonna then or prosecutors can identify. Oh, thanks, Mr President. I'm going to go after but this guy, that's where the norms have disappeared. You're right. That's I mean, you know. Talk about you know, McCarthyism and unjust. Was there one word what what the father-in-law actually did? And it was just about millions of people are guilty prosecuted before. Right. So therefore, he's you have everything. But but it's like something hit comparing stuff to move is. But it is like something out of a movie where they're like father in law. Right. I mean, we're living in one of the I don't want to denigrate any country, but like one of the stands were living in this place. That's ruled by a little ruling family, and just you know to further explain Michael cones dilemma he's going to jail in March like just a few weeks from now, and it is true. You can be subpoenaed out of jail and forced to testify e even though you're incarcerated, but it it does raise the question of how he's going to deal with this family during this time. Not available. But I still think that because this is all out in the open because the the Cohen legal team, and he and his family, obviously, put the brakes on this. And and shine a light on exactly what Giuliani was trying to do with the president was trying to do perhaps there's a better chance now that he he will go and testify because it is now so obvious. It's so talked about well it is going on. And if he does testify don't forget, the Republicans are not going to go easy on them either. So everything that Donald Trump is talking about you can be sure we'll come out and talking points from some Republicans on that committee, and it won't be easy for him. It will not be easy for him. And he knows it. Should it? Be right. He's a convicted felon. He has a he he should be crossing Salmond by the Republicans, but he shouldn't be threatened exactly out of testifying in the first place. Exactly. And that that is exactly what has occurred in broad daylight is this witness tampering. Well, I mean, I, you know, it sure looks that way. I mean. You know, the people who are under investigation certainly have the right to say, you the the accuser is Aligarh as terrible person. And that there's nothing wrong with that. That's perfectly appropriate defense. What makes this different is that the person making those statements is a person with the power to prosecute those family, man. That's what I was saying. Now that if out in the open, I feel like it's it's so much harder. Even though it is his purview. And it is his job and those people work for him harder to actually see through because everybody is going to know what's going to separate questions. One is whether the the family will actually be prosecuted. The other question is is he intimidating Colin out of that's the crime. The crime is intimidating someone out. It is very obvious. What he's doing? Your question is would would the attorney general force someone to take a look into this? And when bar was was testifying what he said is, you know, there's no problem with the president asking us to look into something. But there's a question to Dana's point about whether we would perceive also so much for the White House ever saying like we want everybody to cooperate. We won the full story that was that was twenty seventeen that wasn't even plenty that was like two months. I was like the lawyers. So do you think he would be subpoenaed? I mean Connolly was saying he'd like him to I think he will be testifying behind closed doors. Oh, that's a question. Would that be worse? Or would that be better? I think about that was already planning on examining him behind closed doors, but oversight congress committee was supposed to testify is supposed to have testify in public. I suppose that is one way you could you could address the problem. I mean, don't care. There were Democrats want this to be expected to you also made the point that that in the best hearings. They usually pre interview the staff pre interviews people. So that they want the hearings public. They don't have to go in this band during journey they can dissolve Iraq. And one of the many questions outstanding is if he agrees to testify will he agree to that sort of preparation now he will be conveniently located in federal custody. So they'll know how to find him. But the question is will he agree while he's in custody to meet with staff and go over what he's going to say. And of course, the another issue that remains outstanding. And and Connolly said this had not been resolved. Either was how much will Muller object to certain areas being off limits and the southern district to also as far as I understand it in an unresolved issue. Jeff Denner, Laura, thanks very much. Appreciate it. Much more head on the never ending chaos at the White House, including an excerpt from a new. Book by former Trump aide who says some pretty extraordinarily things about Kellyanne Conway gonna get some perspective from legendary journalist Sam Donaldson next. Hey, it's Howard Beck. And I've got G league presidents schrief Abdur Rahim on Bleacher reports Moore DA teams are excited about about three two one engage with players. They wanna be a part of this on the NBA teams won a have earlier touch points be a part of the development process of young players earlier. So this is an opportunity for that. So check out the full forty eight now on the Bleacher report app, apple podcasts and Spotify. Cartoon villain brought to life. That's how a former Trump aide describes Kellyanne Conway in a new look at the infighting the leaking and the gossiping that have been part of the fabric of the Trump White House. The former aide his name is cliff SIMS wrote about all of it in a book that comes out next week called team of vipers my five hundred extrordinary days in the Trump. White House fanfare has published an excerpt SIMS writes about one particular day that he was writing a statement on Conway's laptop while she was texting a hundred phone. The two devices were connected and seems rights that for twenty minutes. He could see the text conversations Conway was having with at least half a dozen reporters from all over the place. She and the president call fake news. And that she was trashing Jared Kushner, Ryan's previous Steve Bannon, and Sean Spicer, SIMS writes, that Conway also recounted private conversation. She had with the president and talked about him like a child she had to set straight. We reached out to kill and Conway for reaction or a statement have not. Gotten a response legendary reporter and anchor Sam Donaldson covered the White House. Of course for decades for ABC news. He joins me now Sam every White House has leakers as you know, better than almost anyone. How often is such a prolific leaker in such a high level position? Well, I've not seen anything kill an Conway. I mean, she and the president are symbiotic and their relationship. They look at the mirror. They see each other. They're both narcissists. They both want all the kind of media's spotlight on him. They don't mind trashing. Anyone? She tries to morning Joe. For instance, another example, he tries to people and they both lie. What more do you want? Now in leaker though, you want the straight stuff if you're going to publish it. You don't want wanna pass along something. That's not right. So Kellyanne has to be very careful, and when she covers herself by saying, well, these are alternative facts, not alternative facts or alternative true. Do can't buy that. If President Trump hates leagues as he claims and Kellyanne Conway is a serial leaker. I guess then why she still there? I mean, either he doesn't believe she's a leaker or she has some sort of tacit green light to do it. Even if it includes bashing his son in law. No. But she looks good things for him. Good. Thanks for him. He hates leakers unless they're leaks that he wants, right? I mean presidents are all kind of alike, the others too. They all Ronald Reagan set up to my keystone leaks. But he didn't mind if the leak really serve the purpose of administration. So I think that's okay. Why is she still there? He likes her. And as I say, they have a relationship. That's. Well, Mongoose and Cobra. Who's in Koper just just in terms of where we are with this shutdown and the state of the union you cover. Reagan speaker O'Neill, you covered Clinton speaker Gingrich this relationship between the president and speaker Pelosi it really seems to be kind of in a league of its own. I think it is. I mean, he's used to having his way the president is he's used to ruling over people. He's used to demanding things and getting them. And he's now met big Tommy devasundaram daughter big time. It was the last big city mayor of Baltimore. He had an eighth grade education. But he taught his daughter Nancy and his other children about politics, and she is made of steel, and she's not going to give up and I think at so far she's won this fight. Now. We'll see what the president does I know some of their penalty if someone's been speculated he might just try to reach the congress and without a joint condition of good in there trying to get there. But I don't think he's going to do that. That would be crazy. He's not that foolish. Well, the guards have no what would a guard do when they can't admit people who are not admitted by the house of representatives and the Senate to a joint session and Sarah. This guy comes up with the golden hair. And it says I'm coming in disregard say, oh, no, you're not up calling the law. No, I it's. Situation that like that great riot in the East Room press conference after the elections. This fall, you know, the president created a riot among reporters and reporters joined in. We're human. I think of but it just something couldn't happen. I don't know what he's gonna do. He'll do something. You're right. He he'll try to be the spotlight, but he has the problem of appealing to people other than the base the base doesn't care where he goes. Or what he does or what he said. Yeah. But a lot of people do and that's important to is there. Anyone right now any kind of elder statement like a state statesmanlike, George Mitchell or Jim Baker who can bridge the gap or lease get the two sides seriously talking again, or does that type of figure just really no longer exists in Washington? Well, if they if they exist, I'm not familiar with them. You've mentioned a couple of the great ones. And of course, they're many others who who could do that at bridge the gap between Republicans and Democrats and conservatives and liberals, but the town is so poisonous we're still poisonous than the American people are at each other's throats who hate each other. Instead of just argue with each other about politics now, I'm not certain as anyone who could bridge this gap. Remember, the president has to win. He's got to win for two reasons because he always wins, and you can't not and because he's got the Bill dot wall. Or maybe a few of his baseball say, hey, it's a con, man. I've been conned and if he has that he's lost Sam Donaldson. It's always great to talk to you. Thank you Sam. He could have talked to you Anderson are on a check in with another former ABC year. Chris Cuomo Chris primetime at the top of the hour because of Cuomo prompt on the eight minutes from now, what are you working on? Chris. I did a show with Sam Donaldson. The segment and it called stump Sam he never got stumped. But when he said mongo's into Cobra, it's true, there is we would always say we would give away a hat if you want. Nobody got ahead. Mongoose? Here's a trivial one for you, Mongoose and Cobra. Yes, what was the name of the famous mongo's and Cobra that fought in a famous child's cartoon can take you to heavy and what was the show this new? Three letters rhymes with hag. Nag make nag and ask. I did not know that. Yeah. Do I get this for knowing Ricky taking cabin you get huge points tonight? Expect at your best you rise to the occasion wants more. And we will try to take your lead tonight on the show on those Sam Donaldson. But we're going to get inside the intrigue and call out why this shutdown has gotten so bad the head of the air traffic controllers. Union wants to come on the show to tell people how concerned he is. We both know that's very rare. So we're giving them time tonight to do that. We'll look at how legitimate threat to Michael Cohen safety is. And I believe there is something that could unite Washington it's going on right now. And it involves your favorite thing football. Really? Yes. Excellent. That's an angle ahead. Not thought of well, they haven't seen those pictures of you playing linebacker. I have. Yeah. Throwing the old pigskin pigskin. Yes. Ricky take you to have Chris. Thanks, very much strong was about six minutes from now up next more and Kellyanne Conway, she asked to a she's asked a simple question about the overwhelming majority of people in the new poll say the wall is not worth the government shutdown. The word salad that followed. It was nearly Shakespearean. You've just gotta hear for yourself or just going to play it for you next. You're gonna wanna see it. Steven universe. Cast members sat Caliban who voices. Stephen Michaela Dietz, the voice of amethyst and demand. No hall voices Pearl. Join me McKenzie. I want to talk diamonds on the Steven universe. Podcasts. Can you deal on because I love oh gosh. I need a line. Tell me what has the beauty this Cutie house of beauty. This is cute. New ringtone? 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I'm asking where you're still saying said, well, the masking why you in the polling questions respectfully are still saying, well when the president said, you can call it whatever you want. I was in the situation room when he said to morning when he said eater Schumer, minority leader Schumer. He said out again what he called it a wall. It's he has a great slogan bills of wall and crime. We know those two why can't we get free to hope it a wall? He wasn't wall steel slut barrier physical barrier. Anything and other words, we need a physical Barry that you can't crawl under clamp over drive through or walk around. That's why I have doors in my house. They assume you also they actually have lots of them. I in other words, it's it's to protect the people and the inside. 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LDL Letters: 31 - Crushing Christian Ethics Class

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LDL Letters: 31 - Crushing Christian Ethics Class

"In today's episode of laterally Lesbian podcast letters got awesome. I just won't get everyone up with what's going on. What are they doing. We Interview Natalie. S She was raised in calvinism and she had to a fundamentalist calvinist Christian school. Who is wacky classes? She had to take it and she gives us five whack a mole things about that school. Yeah you don't WanNa love lists list. They're also love categories and organization. I do I do and We mentioned card catalogs in that kind of made me. Happy Dewey Decimal Yeah. You should have seen Mary's EYES LIGHT UP AND DEWEY DECIMAL SYSTEM. Harkening me back to a simpler. Time wasn't simpler fucking cart three ethics. You don't even know what Margaret Beaches Lake in the ball. Or should we get into letter and again be right? Baton we are supported by one. Damn good brew apostate coffee specifically the less Bain medium dark variety. A delicious roasted toasty bland. That's sure to make postal workers and remote Mormon towns suber twitchy. We have a firsthand account of that one. Sure do this. Yummy Java is roasted in small batches so it's super fresh the moment at arrives at your doorstep in hades named after us so that's reason enough to give it a shot You know it so that grocery store crap and give the lesbian blended try today at a state. Coffee DOT COM Hey everybody I'm Mary. Shelley this episode thirty two of ldl the latter day lesbian midweek male. Podcast that was good. You do so many of these. We have to switch up. You know we get bored. I don't know if anybody else is no okay. You just let us know listeners. let's No. Yeah you know I like the routine of the intro and out Tro Shall we say uh-huh yeah? Today's letter I get to read and I'm kind of pumped because this never Mo- solve our letters but sometimes it's funny Perspective perspective. Yes from our lady Natalie S. Well thanks for writing in Natalie. Yes we appreciate that and I can relate probably too. You're never MO- story although I haven't read it yet I kind of scroll through it in who know. Yeah Yeah Okay. Well I like that show we get into some. It's the perfect as active gay adjective adverb. Agitated it's tough. Shelley's just learning about those different word groups. Yeah so all right. Do you want to get into the letter from Natalie? Yes that way I know why because I have a friend named nut to leave. Who's From England's she's from from British she's from British she'd British she's Brett so that's why we like to say not today. I don't think Nutley here is British. I don't know we'll see Meli. She's Natalie Natalie Natalie s from Britain. Okay what isn't Natalie say? Okay Hi Mary Ann Shelley. Hi Natalie first of all thank you for this wonderful podcast. I don't really know any other gay. People was an LDL has helped me feel less alone just you know. There's a ton of us out there. Wow where does Natalie live natalie? Are You In our discussion group. You WANNA private island. What's going on anyway to reach out to Natalie? I should preface this by saying that brevity is not a strength of mine. So if you don't read this in its entirety. I totally understand. Hey It's not a strength of ours either Natalie. I love hearing everyone's stories on the podcast. I wanted to share some of mine. Oh good not raised Mormon but I relate to so many of the stories because I spent grade school in a fundamentalist calvinism Christian school new. Yeah we've talked about calvinism on our show before for sure. There isn't time to get into all of the crazy shit that went on. But here's a sample of some of the most fucked up things that happened in my time. Here number one. All seniors took Christian ethics class. That's something fun which was creepy so not because they convince you. They're teaching you to reason and think for yourself about issues like capital punishment and abortion rights but in reality you fail the exams if you're independent in quotations critical thinking does not lead you to their conclusions. Oh and part of the class is an abortion protest at planned parenthood automobile. Tell you know young pregnant teens. Who are like totally stuck. Let's make them feel great idea You know it's interesting Marine Sykes. This is extreme for sure In mormonism as well though you know they talk about you have your own agency you have free thought blabbity Blah your conclusion. Better fucking be what they're Mormon truth is you are being led by the wrong spirit. Yeah I aced my Christian ethics class. Oh just kidding. I didn't have to take that in public high school. I'm like wait K. Number two in eighth grade. We did an entire unit in science class about how evolution is just an evil secular myth and young earth. Creationism is the truth and obviously carbon. Dating is a hoax. Obviously Evolution is just a theory Yeah we'll so as the theory of gravity dumb ass. That's what Natalie. Okay that sounds like. She's a little. She's a little pissing. Vinegar Vinegar Oh by the way the whole evolution thing I remember. I struggled with that as well. Because there's like dinosaur bones in dinosaurs or older than two thousand years and the teaching was the reason that there are dinosaur bones. That are found was because when God created the earth he grabbed chunks of other planets that he had already made put it together. That's IM dinosaurs. Well the fossils are from those other planets oh he grabbed fossils from other planet took chunks from other planets than made the route of happened. It's like he didn't sift even sit well enough. Like when you don't have dogs cats I love comparing dinosaur fossils to litterbox massive thing. Where did you learn this? It was taught? I don't I don't know it's not. It's not in the scriptures but it was definitely thing that was taught this the fundraiser hand listeners. If you're actually rancher hand right and then it'd be like Yep me to meet you because I know it's not in scripture. It might have been something taught by some whack. A mole profit. Back in the day and somehow resurfaced. I don't know but that's what I was taught when I started questioning way to say God damn segment and I was like okay. They told me. Or you know the cat sifting because I believe everything told me I was like all right then. baby I KINDA WANNA go back in time and like punch all those assholes in the throat too. Yeah but you were not taught to think about anything. All she was not sure was not whatever the end story is with mormonism can make up whatever the shit they need along the way well like when you have questions. Oh nope it was Other worlds that were put together and they happen to have dinosaurs on them. Yeah yeah stuff. Good stuff okay. I shall number three when my sister was in seventh grade. She and a classmate both spent several months in eating disorder. Rehab and happened to return to school the same week. Can you guess what their Bible teacher thought was a great topic to teach in their first week? Back Yip fasting insensitive only God I know. So here's the thing I understand if people want to on their own free will fast deprive themselves. What is it do food? You know some people. It helps them feel more spiritual. I'm all for it but when it is taught to you that you must do this to get God to be close to you. I have a problem with that right I remember and Brent feels bad for this but I remember when Brent His younger sister was like eight. And you're not necessarily required to fast until you're baptize in the Mormon Church. So eight years old and it was her first week fasting and she was so hungry and she was like begging her mom. Can I just have the piece of bread and Brent said will which do you love more that piece of bread or Jesus? Ooh branch to his little sister. Oh Patriarchal boy. He's evolved a lot since then but that was about this. Give us this day. Our daily bread motherfucker on that. Yeah foul I can and should be forced and no one should be guilty into doing something to please their God. It just doesn't go along with what people claim God to be so. I don't know like God Mormons well in this case not Mormon. No this is Kelvin fundamental bullshit. Stay away and I know. Calvinism is not a word cal. Calvinism right in your okay number. Four roughly monthly there was a discussion slash shaming session for the girls about modesty and about not being a stumbling block to the boys. The male leadership of course ignored that Bible story where Jesus literally tell some dudes to gouge their eyes out if that's the only way they can stop themselves from Ogling Women Clearly we girls just needed to cover our shoulders caller bones and knees at all times and not were tight enough to be revealing rerunning of what the fact that I have. Legs gotta walk on something. You can't show any limbs because you know no one's GonNa actually plug their own eye out that's not gonNA maybe it should be. Put yourself in the face of news your bag. I would say that. Stop arguing that girl. Punch yourself in the face. Maybe wear an eye patch in maybe control. You're talking okay number five in Tenth Grade Bible Class. We would anonymously submit discussion topics one written in would appear to be a girl's handwriting. Which makes it even. Sadder was our men better than women. We DID ACTUALLY DISCUSS. This and the correct answer was not no. Oh my goodness in class. Yeah well so all those girls in the class got to hear that men are better than them basically. Yeah in class as a as a teacher last teaching. Wow I mean that's what you learn in mormonism. They don't say winning but put the pieces together. You know you don't have to say it. Yeah it's almost worse when it's so covert you know. At least you know what the doctrine is when they're telling you outright and you know one positive thing I have to say about my father dying when I was young and not having any brothers is you know I was raised in a house full of women and we were all just kind of figuring out after he died and we learned to think for ourselves and we learned to come up with our own conclusions in our own solves problems. We had to do it and I think that did me a huge favor for sure. You're very independent. You don't need anyone telling you anything. Yeah it's amazing. I know so. We'll put that in the positive. Yes it's true. If you want to find a positive out of your dad dying which totally sucks but yeah you you know figured it out exactly and I feel bad for all. These women raised in these fundamentalist religious upbringings. Where now they have to unravel those teachings. Yeah director indirect about you. Know How they're second class citizens and now they've got to figure out. Well how do I put myself in that number one category? How do I look at myself differently? How do I elevate myself into this position of being equal to men right you know and that is a struggle for a lot of women it is? It's so hard it's been hard for me in many respects because I still have my dad and my three brothers who are still very patriarchal And it is easy for me to fall back into that way that I was growing up of just sort of letting them run the show. Yeah it's difficult to learn to stand up for yourself. It really is. I mean I think all of us when we're around our family we sort of devolve into these teenager preteen versions of ourselves. You know Temporarily and then you leave and you're like God. Why didn't they say something? Or why did I act like this? I feel like I'm a very kind and generous person until around my mother right and then I have no patience. Yeah I don't want to deal with it. I don't WanNA listen to the weird shit that comes out of her mouth. Yeah and I hate that about myself otherwise I feel like I'm a fully formed adult until that moment. Yeah so I could see for someone like you around these men who are very patriarchal that it'd be easy to fall back into that little girl. I don't know anything. Yeah I think I have a stronger will around them then I used to. I still more of I want them to like me You know I would love to get around all them again because I have not been around all my brothers since I left the church and release sort of became my own person And I wonder what that would be like. Nah I wonder if I would have the courage to stand up for things when they make dumb ass comments about whatever any other Nazis yes that Democrats yes right. Exactly as a for instance as a for instance on those out of the air. Yeah and it's sad also because I'm pretty sure the next time we all get together were probably be when my parents passes away. I don't know how it would happen before then So yeah nothing like arguing while your parents are passing or maybe just walk away if somebody says something do she just walk away. You know you can quietly shut down and conversation that's true. It's kind of like when I met your brother. And on the first five minutes he said something about Radical Feminine Talk City of radical. Feminism and I said well I must be pretty toxic because I consider myself a radical feminist. Set it like not threatening and he backpedaled after that like he was fine so sometimes you just have to figure out creative ways to shutdown conversations. That's true you know. And they're able. There are a lot of men out there. There are a lot who are not this way but there are a lot of men out there especially in the Mormon world or the super religious world of any religions anyway that they are not used to having a woman confront them on something that they say. It doesn't happen. It's not accepted and so when that does happen like with the case of my my brother. David he was kind of like. Oh okay. Yeah because he's a horrible human being he just no one stands up to him and I think the more that women stand up for ourselves the more men I would hope would realize you can't just run him over. Well you know maybe think I there's that. Nah think about what you're saying no Natalie we went way off topic it happens but why don't we use this opportunity to throw to a commercial rowing it? Okay we will be right back. We are supported by new dating APP dating difficult under even normal circumstances then try explaining nutty religious upbringing to someone. Yeah like the weird looks you get when you throw it expressions like what does that. Help them. The Naval Maryland. The I dunno bones strengthen the lines parish nurse. Maybe don't do that. No don't do it and now that you've left mormonism you've probably been kicked out of the singles ward so now. What download new an ex mormon dating APP available on both Android and iphone get ready to find post morm- in love with someone who understands your background visit new dating APP and learn more and we're back? We'll get back to the letter. I think that is a great ISOS. She listed the five things at suck about her school Ribot Calvin Christian school which sounds on pieces all right if you put that on a resume. Does that get you a job anywhere and only within the Cavernous Christian School Job Board? Very limited like manny okay. You're qualified to do. That's it okay. Okay she says so at this point. I'm sure you're thinking sounds like a pretty cool place to me and I think she's joking. I knew so fun but on top of all that starting in ninth grade. We were told almost daily. That gay people are going to hell because they're evil and gross in destroying the sanctity of marriage I was confused and devastated when I cried myself to sleep over it. I was praying and asking God how that could be true. Ironically that was the first and most recognizable time in my life. When I've felt God speak to me. I felt this overwhelming sense of peace. Like God was telling me I was right. Everyone is loved equally and nobody chooses or is punished for their sexuality. Even so I knew I couldn't cope if I had to sit in class and hear those things said about me so I promised myself that I wouldn't even entertain the possibility of being anything but straight until after graduation so I had one of those moments as well where I just had the feeling that God didn't hate gays And when I say God I don't understand or pretend to know exactly what that is but there was this immense feeling of peace and kind of relief. Whatever was up there around us didn't hate gay people. I had a moment like that. Yeah where I felt accepted just as I am I mean the rest of the world and my mother and her church or whatever could tell me differently but that's not how I felt on the inside. Yeah you know and that one out you know it took practice to be able to like shut out those outside voices telling you something else but Yeah after Awhile. You just cling to that. Yeah there's a lot of crazy in this world that doesn't match up with your inner compass. Let's say what you think is right right like I feel like religion is number one on that list of Wacky Shit. That people are willing to believe that. I just don't so you know. I just chalk it up to that in that category way to categorize dewey decimal system. Okay some of our listeners would like I don't I don't know what is are laughing out. Some people are playing really missing that right now decimal system. I just liked the card catalogs themselves. They hit a certain smell of like card stock to them. You know for sure but I loved all those little compartments. All the drawers are bet. You love the drawers in the compartments and how neatly everything was like shit but I always was like okay if you had this in your home. What little things could you put in all these drawers not surprise me at all? Kinda like walking into the container store. Have you ever done that? And everything's changed and you're like Oh see. What is the people's this feels really good. Okay I like organization. What can I say it's great? Someone has to yes or moving on. I'm more or less managed to keep that. Promise staying straight Unfortunately now all I've ever done with my sexuality is repress it which is why it took nine years from that night to realize it admit to myself that I'm a lesbian. Well that happened just over a year ago. She's a new lesbian. We'd nice welcome to the world of fun and happiness. I still struggle with it at times. But it's been really encouraging to hear stories on latter-day Lesbian from other people who never questioned their sexuality Intel adulthood and are still coming to terms with. Yeah look at Shelly. Yeah forty two. Who thinks thank you for reminding us that the letters are helpful for sure? I love to read them and I. It's helping way share stories. You never know who's GonNa Benefit from hearing your story who's GonNa ever know. Be touched by that. I think it's fantastic. It is thankfully she goes on. My triggers aren't nearly as bad as they used to be. And I WANNA give you guys a bit of credit for that thanks. Lesbian is still a hard word for me. Hearing it over and over again in the context of this podcast that I love and that makes me feel so understood is helping a lot lesbian lesbian. Lesbian Lesbian Bi. Yeah now being home. Oh you don't I don joke from the eighties. Okay Isle of Lesbos. It was an actual place. That we're named after Lesbos. Lesbians lived on Lesbos. Oh it's just a place okay historical. It's not an evil occurred. It was even lucky for me. You know and I'm kind of whispering named ill- sounds a little weird well and some people have trouble with the word vagina. I love the word. The word it's an awkward word giant. Phillip you call up budge on And that's way less awkward. I love that for some reason. This letter is taking us two hours. All right getting back to it. Sorry Natalie but not. Sorry I'm fortunate that coming out has been a positive experience so far my family and friends have been very supportive and loving overall and for my current church. I've taken it in stride right now. I'm hoping that soon off. You're ready to start dating for the first time in life agent Wendy three which is not intimidating. And all a really. This is fine. I'm fine. Is this what she's saying? Yeah because she's early and really funny Natalie Natalie where do you live Natalie Channels ooh Natalie get on channels request not an order? But I think he'll be fun for sure. Oh by the way just as a diversion at the beginning of this podcast recording. Shelly got on channel or did topless shouldn't show any snow bubis. No no shoulders as a little warm in studio today. But this is the kind of thing that happens. General is that making people want to join or no but if you're interested go to a latter day lesbian or as shelley likes to say latter day lesbian dot org slash polo information. You WanNa see my porn shoulders record. Bom all right Natalie. We're continuing before I leave off. I wanted to quickly mention where I've landed on a couple of topics related to spirituality. All right I hope. It's encouraging others questioning their beliefs. I consider myself a nuanced Christian. I believe God is big enough to handle our doubts in wants us to ask questions this ties into the idea of an age of accountability. I was surprised the Mormon definition of it is so different than mine My belief is that God is never ending love which means it takes a lot to get yourself off the list of people going to heaven now. You just have to be gay and you don't go to heaven. It's the same way we don't want her to think that way anymore. Because it's not bullshit by the Way Natalie. Twenty-three is not old for dating. No no you are young young young young young young. You have plenty of time for multiple one night stand. You seriously have fun find. What makes you happy? Yeah shooter. Incredible and the name of Jesus Christ him in especially under boop under bill is the most amazing. The age of accountability is not a literal age. If you're still asking questions seeking to give and receive love and open to continuing to evaluate your beliefs as you learn and experience more you have not done anything to disqualify yourself from heme. God is love and is bigger than your confusion. Her in doubt you're not going to be held accountable for rejecting a God. You've never known or understood. Well I agree with that. Plus the whole Prodigal Son Metaphor yeah of you know doesn't matter how long the Sun has been gone or how much the Sun rejected the parent. Sure when they'll come back it's like hey kill the fatted which is a horrible idea. I kind of feel it. Sometimes I'M NOT GONNA lie There weren't any vegans in the Bible. True true but anyway let's have a feast because the kid returned. Yeah and it's okay. Whenever that happens my religious spiritual whatever beliefs At this point are not in concrete. I appreciate when there are people who believe in God but that God that they believe in is how Natalie's describing not this vengeful hateful. Fuck up once you're done. Yeah All Norman Mormon Gods so awesome. Okay she goes on. Free will the power of prayer and why God allows bad things to happen in spite of our prayers have also come up a lot. Yeah that's a challenging one s for prayer. I don't pray to change the world. I pray to change myself. I pray for peace courage strength to love when I don't feel loving and give when I don't feel generous in essence I prayed to be given the qualities I believe. God has shares with those who ask when horrible things happen. I remind myself that God loves US enough to give US free will which means not moving pieces on the chessboard. Even though I sometimes want that yeah I don't believe in the whole moving pieces around either because that just makes you think God is sometimes a random asshole now. Don't like generous to these people. An asshole to these people. I don't like that thought at all. I can't I can't get behind God. That's playing chess with our lives right. I am lucky to have found a church. That's been a good fit for me during college and Grad School and I've learned something important in the process. You guys always worn us to stay away from Colt because they are no joke I've realized that if they talk more about sin and Helvin love and heaven you should just get the fuck out Yeah even if it's not technically Colt. It's still talks bullshit for sure. I'm sorry this got so outrageously long. We made it way longer than I just want to wrap up with a quick question for shelly is ring by spring thing. Byu It certainly is at other Christian colleges. But I thought it might still be foam pot material even if it isn't exclusively more although I can kind of figure that out yeah so many levels of BS wrapped up in one little phrase To answer your question Ring by spring. I don't remember hearing that but I'm RS degree yet. Get your definitely there. Is this huge amount of pressure. Byu To get married young. That's just aren't necessarily expected to graduate right no and also better now at Byu. It is okay. are women encouraged to actually graduate before they get married It depends on the person depends on the family I was encouraged to drop out as soon as So crying I got married which I did anyway. I was going to say that the words that you go to when you were going to. Byu So you're congregations are called singles wards and they're basically meet Mark Ri-. Yeah we've talked about that and then if you get to old the kick you out of the singles ward. Well you didn't get married. So yeah you gotTa go to the Family Ward crying babies. 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Remembering Cokie Roberts

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Remembering Cokie Roberts

"Are you hiring with indeed. You can post a job in minutes set up screener questions then zero in on your shortlist of qualified candidates using an online dashboard get started today. INDEED DOT COM slash powerhouse. That's indeed dot com slash powerhouse the stories you will tau will be special and different because of who you are welcome to special edition of powerhouse politics. I'm ABC News Chief White House correspondent Jonathan Karl and today we remember a friend a mentor colleague and one of my favorite human beings on the face of the earth cokie Roberts cokie our ABC News family. The rest of the world lured died two complications breast cancer we will be talking to her friends here at ABC. Remembering some of the incredible high points in boy were there many of her career as a journalist. I have to say say I came to ABC News more than fifteen years ago and cokie Roberts. I revered her. I was in awe of her and I walked into. ABC See News and the idea that I was going to be working at the same place as cokie. Roberts was something that that meant a lot to me. I grew up watching her her the combination of her our passion for history and her passion for politics her sense of humor. I it was amazing and what what the most surprising lied to me is how generous a colleague she was when I came in I was you know a Nubia. ABC It can be a tough place to come in from the outside and she welcome come to me with open arms and I wanna I wanna just start with with a moment that I shared with Kochi on the floor of the Democratic convention in Philadelphia Alfie in two thousand sixteen because I when I think of national political conventions I think cokie Roberts because as I grew up and I watched the conventions and one of the things that I remembered democratic and republican conventions we're seeing cokie. Roberts on the floor often generating more attention and excitement and the people she was trying to interview. She certainly more well known than most of them so I had a chance. This was a little bit of a thrill. I I mean I I you know cokie friend and a colleague but still still hit me I had a chance to interview cokie myself from the floor of the convention and I just WanNa play the very beginning of this interview because she she comes forward with a piece of information that kind of blew me away. I've got a really special guest this one. It means a lot to me. I've got cokie. Roberts and let me tell you when I think of political conventions when I think of national conventions I think cokie Roberts on the floor. You're I've seen you on the floor the floor reporter. Yes so I'm GONNA ask you. You don't have to answer it but I'm GonNa ask you. How many of these things have you been into the twenty second. Twenty guests can use just absorb that for a second twenty two conventions incredible spine find the will nominate a woman there you go with the sense of humor so that's cokie twenty two conventions obviously many as a young child with with with her parents and then as as a journalist so. I am joined right now by two of my ABC News of friends and colleagues on the on the White House what we call the Pennsylvania Avenue Unit Avery Miller of worked with for almost as long as I've been at ABC and Karen Travers who is side by aside with me in in the White House booth and with both of you you both have uniquely strong connections to Cokie Roberts and John as producers at this is Avery Miller have producer at ABC News and we try to stay behind the scenes but John Convinced both Karen and me to come on the podcast but very spoiled I been that ABC for twenty five years. I was Kochi's campaign producer up for a lot of that time together we interviewed Barbara Bush Laura Bush Gerald Four for George Bush Lynne Cheney Warren Buffett and she was just always the consummate professional You said that she was so well. Known tried traveling in an airport with cokie Roberts. We used to be mobbed and I used to tease her. How many refrigerators I do think your photo is on Cokie and she just laughed so modest but we we had one interview that I was reminiscing talking about that we were in Houston and we were supposed to do the very first interview with Laura Bush Barbara Bush together it was before the Iowa caucuses and typical cokie she sort of set it up and there were a lot of dynamics going on between Laura Bush as we know oh the daughter in law mother-in-law and cokie said you have said that he's in temperament and personality a lot like his mother and I remember Barbara leaning forward and saying they love and that was just consummate cokie she would get interviews news and emotions and such genuine truth out of people as they spoke I've been at ABC. This is Karen Travers for nineteen years and I'm here because of Kochi and every cokie spoke when I was an intern on Capitol Hill. It was a book signing. I have the book that she signed for me that that day on my shelf. I have a photo that I took with Kochi in nineteen ninety eight or nine hundred ninety nine and after meeting her the impression she made and just from seeing her work the only place I applied for an internship was ABC's this week and I only emailed avery I went around all of the process and just emailed avery directly because I found her name and had the privilege of working for Kochi and avery during the two thousand primaries and have been here ever since and Cokie was such a mentor to me and to so many especially especially young women at ABC she came into journalism with an incredible pedigree to parents are both members of Congress. She was the consummate Washington family but she did her own path. She worked her way up the ranks and never was somebody that was that came off does the insider she was still so kind and generous and she fought for her place at the roundtable this week's roundtable and the conversation in Washington and she always always impressed upon me and others. ABC How to make your voice heard. Do Good Work but be a nice person when you did it. You didn't have to change who you were to ask. It's tough questions and to get information. You do it with a smile. cokie would do it with it. Jabeen Grin when she has questions and Democrats and Republicans she she was aggressive passive and she called out. Es You know she she knew what was going on and if it didn't matter that there was no there was no theology there frankly and and and and how you know she took on the newsmakers but also also her own colleagues and and yet such a genuine genuine genuine and and kind and generous person you know I I this is just so amazing but I mean it was just about about two weeks ago that she took my daughter emily out to lunch and coke was going through all that she's been going through healthwise and she sent me this lovely note about my mazing daughter who she is mad at conventions in and around she kinda grew up with as well and I mean she's just so so she was. She was a mentor to to a lot of young women in this business and also a lot of people like me. I mean I I'm reading this book. Talk about my experience covering trump. It's a book that I'm writing in part because cokie encourage that and she was one of the very first people I had read my early chapters and when you know when I didn't know whether or not I was on the right track. I was going in the right way. She told me I was told me places where I wasn't and called out at least two errors in the history of things and I thought I was damn right about and she was like and you know I i. I just absolutely love it but I think I mean avery you. You worked for her on you know basically at she was at the peak of the profession I when she was the kind of person that could get you know a first lady and a future first lady together for a joint interview. I mean not many people could pull that off. interviewing people said Gerald Ford Presidents candidates for president but there's a personal side to her and she was just always always I mean we've talked about being a mentor but family I to you never ever hesitated to tell cokie. If there was something personal especially especially with our frenetic schedules she was at I will still never forget. I just had my baby girl and the nurse poked her head in to the AH Romans said to me. I think cokie Roberts in the hallway wanting to see you and my stock went up dramatically she asking for help on a story. I want to be sure because I might stop by and say you know when she walked in that door. There was never anything anything professional and I mean John even today. I'm getting these beautiful texts from friends of mine that she had connected with when I had said you know. This friend of mine has breast cancer can you cokie didn't know this person but she always tried to help with medical advice or the best doctors or and she just never has stated to do that and it was always family first when you would see her in the hallway she wouldn't ask. What was the best scoop you had recently. Or what story are you working on today. It was always how are the kids Ed's. How is life or are you doing anything interesting and an anecdote that I love about coke. Is that in two thousand fifteen or we had twins and they spent several months in the hospital. Kochi is the grandmother of twin so she knew what we were going through and she was incredibly kind. She checked in on me almost every week just to see how we were doing and when the twins were in the hospital title cokie signed up on the Google doc where our friends were giving us food cokie signed in and said what day she was going to bring food and she dropped it off herself. Oh five a text message from her. That just said hey travers. cokie left the food on your porch. Don't WanNa talk like you've got a lot going on. She had made homemade Louisiana of course food she was also. I think the only person in all of that wonderful generosity we got who also gave three bottles of wine to go with the food because she said I know what you really need right now and she I had friends saying I'm looking to sign up for food. Is that the cokie Roberts. That's on that list is it. It is the COKIE. Roberts and I got called out for this today on ABC News digital but I didn't return the dishes she had brought all the food in and I asked her once. Can I bring this back. Should I know it's not worth it so we have our cokie dishes that we differ leftovers. I have several of them which are lovely with Nice lids so we have. I believe Trevor Hastings our executive accurate producer. Has I believe recline on the on the line here right rick. Hey guys how are you sir rick. A cokie was a a regular on the powerhouse politics six podcast and I think it's fair to say one of our favorite guests. Oh no question question and you always knew she brought something. I mean that was the astounding thing is that the amount of history in her brain she was always studying always reading always asking questions always probing for more information. I- accumulating more knowledge all the time and that's the depth that she brought to any conversation and you could ask her about the state of a house race or a Senate race and she wanted to gossip soup about the latest in the presidential race. You always had a little bit of dish. She had heard from a friend who was at a fundraiser or or something like that. I just remember through the midterms last year. You know we do all of this fancy research for contributors so that people like giancarl frankly don't have to do all the hard work so we've done all this work on all these races says now cokie shows up with all of these handwritten notebooks and it was down to the Congressional district that she knew California forty two versus forty three and was pointing out how little errors that we had in our research and asking questions and again the night before the election. She's sitting there with her own spreadsheets that we're all hand-drawn in her notebooks where she's handicapping how many seats the Democrats would need and where they would come from and how the night would play out and I'm just thinking you know what she's at a stage people. She was literally a living legend right. You've been named so by the Library of Congress but she didn't live on that legacy. She could have just if at that point in her career as as someone from a political family the legendary journalist she could have just gone out there and and set a couple of things and it would have been a good night. That wasn't how she worked. She had all of this research all of this stuff at the ready every time we talk to her John. She'd surprise you with some tidbit or have some insight or some piece of reporting that you just didn't know and also the first rick to to respond when we when when you you had some bit of reporting yourself or some something that you were we live on email here all the cooking cokie reply I mean she she was she was in tune and in tune to also what what the the newbies. I mean you you you. You Rick You you. You know you have this group of incredibly talented in many of them very green. you know young journalists who are embeds out on on the campaign and and she I mean she's a mentor and has been a mentor. you know every every four years that class of embeds gets to know. Oh and here from cokie Roberts and you guys I only learned about some of it today in the wake of passing because people are are tests texting or sending emails or putting on twitter about their recollections elections and you find out that entire generations of reporters some of whom are still out in the field now others of whom have gone on to bigger and better things beyond that they all have these he's not that they have saved and printed out from cokie. Roberts and I didn't know sometimes she'd hit reply all accident so we found out but often it was just a private note of encouragement or just to check up on the human nature. I know when I started at ABC back in two thousand seven I had never been in the network before I was awed by these giants of the industry that I was working with people like Charlie Gibson Gibson and Sam Donaldson and Diane Sawyer and Cokie Roberts and when I wrote my first edition of the note back in April two thousand seven. ABC's one one of the responses I got almost immediately was from Kochi San thanking me for being smart not snarky and I saved that and and it's it's printed out in defiled roar of the kind of a kind of reminiscence that you go back to when you need it in the low times and it was that part of the tradition the way that she carried on the tradition of ABC News and political reporting it it was just it was on inspiring and I. I hope that that we now is veteran. Journalists can only do a portion of which she did in terms of mentorship sometimes sometimes implicitly and explicitly bringing people along and and she didn't like the snark and she was she was serious. She had integrity she came from a political family family. became a journalist and took that took the responsibility of of journalism seriously and I think it was uncomfortable when she saw uh journalists veer into partisanship or you know straight. SNARK MSCI respected the the the people we were covering but cheat she she called it called him out. Oh yes you call them out but I always thought the difference John and maybe this is being from a political family is that she didn't she. She didn't rush to ascribe evil motivation to to to to to politicians. She knew that they're human beings most of whom are out there to do the right thing or trying to do the right thing and she didn't need to be out there with the with the quickest commentary condemning something she understood she knew a lot of these men and women frankly on a personal level so that that helps but I s I aspire to that in in the political reporting that I do is to take the men and women that you run into in our jobs at face value until they give the reason not to but there's no reason to to rush to to to to have the the smartest and espn to say about someone when there's just such fascinating things that are going on you want to be learning learning from the people that that you are around you don't need to be passing judgment and somehow she always found a way to educate without feeling didactic and to and into judge sometimes but without feeling judgmental and she didn't like the reverse where politicians might be snarky to journalists. She felt that it should always stay at a very respectable level. Well Rick. Thank you for joining us. Where are you by the way I'm in Chicago on my weight. Iowa out to hit the trail a little a bit and hopefully make cokie proud well. I think I think coke would appreciate you. Were calling us. I in route to Iowa. Thanks thanks a lot recline. Thanks guys yet yeah. There was something somebody just sent me a picture as as we're here on the set I believe the two thousand eight election night set and you know sitting next to cokie Roberts key mashed. Let me just you know to be to to be there with somebody that I mean I had such enormous respect for and I had grown up learning from and watching and into to find out that that couldn't be a nicer for more generous colleague John. I found that handwritten letter of recommendation that Tokyo wrote for me when I was applying to Grad school back when I had just started. ABC and this is just a classic coke line. She said of me she has the great good sense to understand that she needs to accumulate more knowledge in order to be a useful journalists that is which basically means like keep learning kid. You got a lot to do but that's never stopped. She was still writing her own charts and spreadsheets for the midterms and looking up very minute house data and demographic data. She never stopped learning and it shows that in this industry history you could just sit back and pontificate and analyze talk but no she was still a practitioner of this and she was a reporter and she was still trying to you. Get the story so I think I think the essence of this the the the kind of maybe we should go back and read are kind of cookies guide journalism but but but I think it's it's it's do your homework know what's going on be prepared and it wasn't so part of that is what Rick was referring to you know she she knew the current landscape she new the player. She knew what was going on. She she took the research that our folks here at ABC. We're doing our own research. She talked to her own people but then that's one aspect of it. The other is the history because she spent so much time immersed. I mean she wrote her books but she spent so much time are immersed in American political history and you know those those two things I think were essential and if I can add a third word. It's the it's the respect it's respect for the people you're covering. That doesn't mean you're not really hard on them when you have to be it doesn't mean that you you know don't point it out. When they say something that is ridiculous or or hypocritical or not true she did that without fear and without hesitation Asian but she did you know treat the people that she was covering with respect and you know not like I said you know somebody jumped to the all politicians all jeep. She came from a family of politicians complicated people and she always also always did her homework. You all we're talking about the spreadsheets. Whenever we did any kind of interview or went on the campaign trail she had a thick folder tons of paper. She was also a historian just as much as a journalist ask anything about Abigail Adams make one mistake on that and and not just Abigail Abigail Adams. I mean you know hey. This is harding. Tell you all right. We we have to take a quick break. I WANNA I wanNA really thank every Miller and Karen traverse T to new cokie as well as anybody here at ABC News for sharing those recollections the the big journalism ones but also the personal ones we back in a minute better help help offers licensed professional counselors specialized in a wide array of issues like depression anxiety and grief connect with your professional counselor and a safe private grinded online environment. It's a truly affordable option and listeners can get ten percent off your first month by going to better help. 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When it comes to greatness I thought of a line I'M NOT IRISH SCOTTISH. That's out of a line that in nineteen sixty three Daniel Pat Moynihan who was an assistant secretary of Labor voice to November twenty second when he said you can be Irish without knowing that the world will break your heart someday and I think all of us who knew cokie field that today a little bit of heartbroken because she's not only John. Is You know it was a fine journalist list and a very strong presence in Washington knew everybody there knew all the politics and all that she was a force of nature right force of nature and an incredibly generous human being I mean generous with with their colleagues I mean I remember coming into this. You you know coming into. ABC I'd been at at CNN and you know you come into ABC. It can be a tough place to walk into but but she was somebody took seriously the idea as I know oh you did as well of of being a mentor to the to the next generation of journalists and she was one of the reasons was of course the woman and and it's one of the pioneers cokie understood what it was like to be a woman trying to break into a man's business I mean you had to do a hundred and ten percent just to johnny stay even never forget the day she showed up. Finally we've got a woman on the David Brinkley Program in nineteen eighty eight. We had the best one in the world when cokie Roberts since hired to be on the panel to ask the questions and all of that and she remembers the day she said I showed up that morning and all of you you David Brinkley George will. We're in the conference room waiting for me. She said it was a little bit like walking into the lion's den but then she added. I so pleased to tell you you were one of Tamers Lions and she she mentored the young women because she knew it was like to have to break in and she did. A lot of work at people don't even know about from the standpoint you mentioned. She's kind generous is considered with their time. Well what she I mean you. I could barely get an appointment. Once I left town. I come back to town and want to see her. I like getting on the list hoping that she could clear a few minutes and she always did of of course but those those days the this week with David Brinkley and then of course this week with Sam and cokie. I mean that there's here's the entire generation of journalists that grew up watching those programs learning from those programs I mean I I you know you and and and George and cokie there with with David Brinkley our man Jack Smith setting you up. I mean that that was I think you know kind of the the pinnacle anacle of of Sunday shows. That was it you know those days cable. CNN was just getting started getting the eighties and now joined going to ninety two of course by so many channels. I can't even get even site the number but we were the ones that people turn to to find out some analysis what was going on there had been some syndicated shows. GRONKOWSKI and company a couple hours. David Brinkley program was the first one which journalists now today it's every retired member of the Congress and who knows journalists were allowed and controlled that was our job to give our views your views and so we did did and without woman the only it was pretty tough. Cookie got there. You've got much better and that'd be just review for you John Story. I know that you know because I think today in remembrances of all through the broadcast video people are playing the clip that I remember so vividly from the time the John Towers the senator from Texas Cameron our program in nineteen eighty nine he'd been nominated to be Secretary of defense but there's a lot of critics on the hill and one of the criticisms wasn't he drank too much so senator tower came on to be interviewed by us and he started by just saying before anyone asking. Let me just tell you if I'm confirmed the secretary of Defense. I will not touch jason drop of spirits alcohol while I'm in that seat well. He's also criticised didn't another way so I said well senator. They also say you're a womanizer. He said Sam what's a womanizer. Well I started fumbling around knowing that every woman I've ever met was watching and listening cokie. Roberts spoke up gently no animus in her voice but she said rather sternly senator. I know one when I see one classic named him you could see the balloon just burst the air. We just went out. He had that ability to ask the toughest episode all possible questions but do it in a gentle way and and not be rate. Just ask the question and we were talking earlier. I one of the things that struck me is is she was tough as as can be in those in especially in those days I mean she she called out the BS as you just described she did with with John Tower power but but she treated the political figures that you guys had on with respect I mean toughness tough to all sides but coming from a political family I think it is part of it i. She tweeted treated the no you're right John. Father was desa. Essentially seventy two was George leaves the house he was going to be the speaker she grew up in in Washington and and in Washington in those days the sixties seventies even to some extent in the eighties and and even to some extent in the nineties Partisans a battles went on but not personal and people understood the rigors of the office the other guys got problems is an understand that even though he's a republican or a Democrat far different from today so cokie. I think January like she met all those people Lyndon Lyndon Johnson the president of the United States in Nineteen Ninety nineteen sixty six came to her wedding who Steve Roberts to tell you that she knew everyone. She began the top there but she understood it so there was no animus. There was no hatred you John. You hear people today. Say I hate so and so I I hate the Democrat. I hate that's nonsense and that's so hurtful to to our country to the people involved but that wasn't cookie that that was not when she asked question even though it was a question that you knew the answer wasn't satisfactory the public the person she was questioning was in trouble but it was not personal title business what she did so brilliantly in Washington and the passion for history and the knowledge of history which I think is too too often absent people the first time this the first time that cokie knew it was going on. Coke was was a student of history into until her last days. That's true and I book. You know we have so much. I've heard so much with growing the founding fathers right he he wrote a book about the influence of the founding mothers should tell us about Martha Washington and she tells about dolley Madison and she tell us about John John Adams wife and one time I said to Kochi yes. Martha was not freezing out of valley forge with George during that terrible litter. She said yes and she hasn't been home taking care of things he wouldn't have been able to do that. Either you win amazing yeah I talked to her on the floor of the convention in in Two Thousand Sixteen or last convention and asked her how many conventions that that she benesch twenty two of course she had the number tip I mean. Can you say how many conventions you've been. I couldn't I would have to go back and start counting. I'd have to count yes. She's got it right there. Sixty four she's got it right there on on the tip of her tongue twenty two and then without missing a beat she says but this is the first one that's ever nominated a woman well. That's so important to say and she. She mentored young women. I think we've been over that I mean she. She knew how tough it was to break in. She had broken in and he'd broke it. In to the top and now she was helping women saying you could do it to you to stand up to know your stuff. Get in there. Don't don't sit back and the second in place when you have something to say and it worked well. Sam Thank you for taking time to to share those recollections and and thank you for being the mentor that you have been to me and like I say I really I really mean it when I came to. ABC because I I grew up watching cokie. Roberts and Sam Donaldson kind generations come along new generations the White House correspondent distinguish yourself. John and I know you have a new book coming out soon and I can't wait for the public read I. I appreciate that Sam and it's an honor to sit sit in the same seat. You sat in. Thank you very much Sam Donaldson Talk to you again. Soon you bet all right we are going to close out this special edition of powerhouse politics with a remembrance of cokie Roberts. you'll hear her voice. You'll hear about her remarkable life a a remarkable obituary that was put together by my good friend. Avery Miller who heard from here Lauren Pacino and and the Good Morning America team thank you for listening. She's been a fixture behind the news desk for over forty years. We're following two major stories tonight. Reporting on the stories that shape generations president problems with Jennifer flowers the not just her word of tape. Gordon Journalism was her calling politics will that was coking's passion as a reporter and author. She trailblazers her way through an industry where where women were barely seen her full name was Mary Martha Corinne Morrison Clayborn Roberts but anyone who knew her affectionately called called her cokie. Thank you for having me and please call me cokie born in Louisiana in one thousand nine hundred forty three cokie. Roberts was the daughter of longtime. US US representatives Hale Boggs and Lindy Boggs who collectively serve the people of New Orleans for forty six years the other women who were in Washington when I was growing up growing up that we watched run everything through her parents she enjoyed a front row seat to history and politics which shaped her interest in Washington learning the world of Congress the way other children learn to walk and talk as a young girl. She considered joining the family business but in college her interest in journalism was sparked when she met her husband. Steve Roberts but her love and close ties to Washington. Were were never far behind. President Lyndon B Johnson famously even attended her wedding in one thousand nine hundred sixty six she began working as an anchor in Washington twenty twenty one and shortly after headed to New York to work as a reporter it was essentially reporting and then writing very brief little stories and I loved it before Orlando at NPR for ten years as political commentator ABC News but in nineteen eighty eight. She found her home right here. The American people don't want this to go on but he ought to do and I didn't inhale and I didn't I didn't I wasn't ever drafted did an ABC news working as a contributor on this week your definition womanized no it when they see senator cookies razor sharp mind mind women have been the bastion bipartisanship in the Senate. 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"Sosa recorded for the live studio audience. Hello and you'll listen to Sam Donaldson she talking movies. TV shows and POCO. CIA on your host Kyle. Hi It's nick. Everybody what's going on. And it is the end of two thousand nineteen beautiful beautiful year and again we are in the studio with Nicholas Maroney not nick already but hello everyone. Hello Oh has he christmases in. What's not fantastic Pretty good seeing family and whatnot. Yes I went down Aires and I sold the old relatives use as you can imagine. That's uncomfortable being around people but my younger niece nephew Sophian Felix with air. So they actually got to see me in person again which they gotta catch up with and got the toys and then they will love it and of course Felix. I always love meeting because again they twin so Felix but Felix has again grew up with the bridge mother and everything on the English back packing everything so he has a real cockney English Australia when I've been going to come up to and he goes I'm GonNa go the Fuck Shit that a real company talk of everything. Yeah I I agree. The Vatican has talked about Lega Lega Earth. Yeah I've seen that fucking buddies Lego set as a legacy. Yeah insuring people want it if people are wondering when abundances it's like a giant hardware install chain so if you're in the state or anything it's the place where we don't get to pick up Mexicans there but that's about. It's like lows in America. America's got it's called lows now but but buntings here in Australia is a cultural thing. Yes it's not just like you can go to buntings and not by anything. Anything just spend like your Sunday there. Get a snag. The ground be like Yep I gotTa do this at a playoff for the kids. Get yourself a sausage Call it's all good day. No onions anymore. Boys Young on the bottom the bites. It's onions on top and bottom always on top and some guy slipped there then. He tried to sue. All men. Don't WANNA mentioned. Whiplash Bernard Urine should or ought. This is in America. You can't sue for what a fuck you want. I know I stumped my tar in the door go to see you guys yeah. It doesn't work like that people try even if it's their own fault and you gotTa Moan Video. It's happened to me when I used on a business Someone blitzed into the bathrooms. Which you're not supposed to do their signs around saying don't run in the bathrooms and fell over and hurt their back and they tried to say it was spot all the signs around and everything and they seemed seemed mad that we pointed out that it was they fault and they had to take duty of care which says in the contract that they signed so yeah? It's like the room that cheek that slipped over on griping right budding and she wanted like x amount of money she got given this much and then she appealed in and then they overturned it as she. She didn't get anything. Yeah most big companies. Just settle because they don't want to talk about it at all so don't get greedy. Because they have high priced lawyers. Yeah so they give you anything take just take it. Yeah that's how it works. Just take it. Unless they've done. Contractual wrongs and you have evidence that they contract with everything hundred percent cent. Certain that you can actually sue them yet. Then don't bother they'll bury you griping your money on their like okay. He's taking dollars taking money. Any yes ten thousand more than you would have had like this morning. Yeah Yeah Yeah Anyway. back to Christmas stuff so I recently had my Setting Work Christmas function. That was fun. Oh God yeah yeah. Was it you your department this so we had Stoke Workers Party a few weeks back and then we just had out to palm Stole Christmas body go macy account. I can't remember the how the night went. Arash rocket up there and the the woman who was hosting it right. Yeah God blesses. She's like the mother of the the place that's right and she's just walking around DVD. Everybody shots I don't want to send it to kill this this disgusting. She's like no that's not to kill. Oh I swear just like the other one. I'm like he's just too. She's like no like trying to kill. She's like yeah but it's a different shot. uh-huh different bottle it up. I I remember being that we had like like barbecue. We did a dirty Santa thing. That was fun dirty. Santa theme. What you still you deal Chris cringle and then you still people's gifts bad Santa Dirty Santa people call them different things? I thought that was like some kind of weed orgy doing that. Come late and that they had a she had a trampoline. They're just like ooh trampoline. Lean in my Manages like Kyle. Please don't break your arm of like I'd probably go to break before they all decided he logrono and I've got another friend to come pick me up right And when I got into the car that's just were black. I no idea like audio other for when I got the car I work my bed. You activated your special teleport matter. You'll learn X.. Men and I wasn't worried any socks just like where am I. Where's my foreign anyone that does that? Just check your local news and if you're not in it you did okay. Vague like vache. AAC images of what happened that night. Okay so I somehow went. Swimming in a pool are by. I don't know where the poop came from I remember my feet. Were killing meals walking on gravel at some point with that eight shoes. I've lost my shoes by the way I don't know where they are so I think throughout the person's place place with the pool person with the place of the pool. Can you give call shoes back. Andrew Hundred Call Dan Boone. Attempt to drop ship. You Andrew doesn't mean you have to drag down the rest of US sending the ease in the mail. And I like supposedly drew was just going to draw me back at her and one of his rules. June thanks drew. I was like June. Pick me up. And he's GonNa take me out and then but he got a call from what he's colleagues saying that he's worked. Christmas party was still going and obviously Let's teaches that's I watch you all. AM and friends. hsieh's hunt mill take and I didn't know the loudspeaker like Shazad. She's really hot. We'd all like whatever. Aw when we got there I was just like the boys and girls body. Yeah one year. The boys I'm not really sure how I got harm off any of this but yeah I went swimming. I'm not sure falls fully naked. Did you find out in a couple of weeks to get a summons or you get money if you had a good night the place involved. Now you don't let any schools plastic over social media so you find you've been fucking image car so so I had a great time. Yeah good what did you do for. Christmas are not that. We don't celebrate Christmas too much of my family. So the biggest news thing. Yeah yeah catch up more than anything else. Yeah pretty much just have lunch or dinner or something. Yeah well that's why I can't even spend too much money on gifts this year because the the get my car service completely because I headed off like a couple of months and so this is pretty fucked Shit told Sung to take it and drive it every now and then I had a flat tire and I just couldn't be bothered like getting new tires for it and then yeah eventually got new tires for it. I'm like okay and now it's fucked fucked Fox Fox it's driveable but the clutches needs work fucking caused the worst. Okay let's get into the bread and butter of today a lost ost episode and also for probably a month his time off. We're GONNA take a break in between the season's just so we can recuperate in doing this consistently for a year. We're all and I'll be moving is also. Maybe Moore's at a definite no. I'm definitely moving stuff stuff to another place. Okay K. to June's yes isis. Good young cool. Yes yes sir. Twenty nine teen in a nutshell L.. Endgame Endgame Well etiquette begging leaky noises. Twenty nine you auto-pay lovely. So yeah. Whoever gap and game override overrated Yup? The the only highlight from that film. again. There's a lot of parts AS Roma's endgame. How'd you shrink down and go back in time? People that's not. How physics work? It's how physics works. Yeah that's the thing that like like those kinds of things. I feel like you should really get much into it because like how the fuck does it work. How does it work? How does fucking donars work? Okay yeah supposedly he was. I just be like a normal which normal looking people but like some special disease that made him purple purpose in giant and ugly much. What it comes as a suspension of disbelief shrinking down doesn't make it go back in time? Everyone going into the. That's the whole thing about the thing going into the quantum room the quantum Rome. They don't know how it works but Ernie stock made a computer. Futa that figured it out. Yeah Tony Tony Work. That did not use the computer article about that and I was just just like they're trying to do the things you missed when he invented time. Travel's I what he just said computer figure this out and drink coffee at all. It did was curve like the axes. It's like that's all. We needed cool. Yeah that's the thing. Yeah but either way to sum up just again what happened the hulk like in that whole film like competitive las built himself out. Yeah Yeah and then. He came back as the dabbing banner Hulk and stuff all the professor hulk where he uses the makeshift make-shift Gauntlet to well. I'm just GONNA sit out the rest of the battle everybody and then For some reason he's permanently injured. Yeah at the end of the movie which shouldn't be thing. Yeah Yeah exactly Russo. Brothers tried to explain well. The infinity stones have very infinite. No Yeah I don't think the Russo Sir brothers understand. He's I don't think they understand the hulk as a character that nine done understand a lot about the entire franchise franchise of marvel characters. They just know how to make a film. Just don't forget these guys came from directing episodes of arrested revealed. Yeah so true. One of my biggest problems with the movie was kept in America how he was traded. Oh Yeah yes. I'm sorry. I can't believe that captain breath in America would go back to the time where he left. I don't care about the whole time. Travel Paradox thing. where he shouldn't be there should be in another time? Line Blah Blah Blah sheet right. Yes I care about the actual act of him going back there and bedraggled. Mary's yes that is against his coal character. Yeah he's done it from time. I'm Tom Wha what might this any different to him sacrificing himself. How many times before mimics X. amount of time this guy this guy right activists who wanted to die? He acted like he wanted to die most of the time. Yeah so it's not that he wanted to die. It's just he wanted to protect tech America. Say this and I feel like that was just a portrayal because he was. He is my favorite MC era captain America because of just how he was presented in the first avenger film kept America to winter soldier and in civil war how he was portrayed Arcos beautiful and endgame what the Faulk Eh and that just puts up a more Kanza wind if he stayed in the pasta and things like well. Then how will you still young for the other more recent events and everything and ny yet the second you think about it all this stuff like I said again I could give the actual act of like the whole the paradox thing. Whatever it's the thing that really fucked me up was the betrayal of captain? America's character he will fight for America until the day he dies of very old page or the Red Skull kills him until he until he falls in battle. He's going to give everything up to leave a petitioner in life. It's just not in him. Yeah exactly and then after in game also we had MC US famous throwing the dots dot board to select the next random films. Odd I don't think they did what they did in south park where they chickens pigs chickens had to digest. Okay guys is. Let's let's make a board here and we'll get a budget chickens. Chopped the heads off and throw them onto the our border and whatever they land on when they die is what we're GONNA make next. Yea Yea Shin Chin in the legend of the ten rings. We should talk about this. I can't wait for that to come out. I wonder how they perpetrate China China as the greatest country in Hong Kong. None of that will be there. No no we're going to get the full Chinese propaganda. We'll get it for those foams because that's what we have to come to terms when it comes on. Do you know what they'll do that they'll try to portray China and positive light right by. Having one of the states in China be a rebel state and the Chinese government or like how. He's supposed to fight against rebel state. Guys they've really struggled. They've got lots of money that overpowering steer and it's a control of the Mandarin who's not actually China Chinese but he is pretending to be Chinese Arkan that will happen any negative towards China. Just not pass. Yeah no no. They will make correlation between Hong Kong and China. At the moment right they'll try to portray this as a rebel status. There's rebel steak imagery and everything else. They'll be like Oh yes. This passes the censorship board. I'm not looking forward to that. I am. I'm looking forward to a couple of things that are working on like the. What if series on Disney plus? What if we all earn a council by the way? Say Yes all legitimately all the candid. Pay a monthly fee. I do have a cab for it. No no I'm just letting every also yeah me too just audit you guys steal. No no no we always pay for all our media everyone old ones. Yes it you know. Fuck I'm trying to find diehard online. Find out on. DVD Man not online line Well it really depends because it's owned by Fox so it'd be foxtail in Estrella. Fuck you fall so you need to pay a million dollars a month just to get one enchanted streaming side that I legally paid for. We have accounts with later on wink. Wink now awesome appreciate it. Yes Sir yeah well we talk about the morning to the black widow film. Which I said should have came before all the Captain Marvel Film? Yeah see I would have been looking forward to it like I said I would have been looking for too but the MC you that she's a part of is done for me like I didn't really have that much of an interest in it looks good but I don't have an interest in seeing that much I'm just going backward the nostalgia trip of odd. This is what with the. Mc You was like but doc times for the house of the noise. We'll find out what happened to pest. Yeah all right. We're GONNA have Jeremy Renner doing wean. Jeremy Renner things and Budapest. But yeah this movie's white overdue like that's that's the problem. Yeah it didn't have to be for me it's too it feels. It's very light for with Evren to like like as people expected people to slam this film. It's like they did with Captain Marvel with the answer the call and all that stuff and no one said anything. I think the most stuff able said on twitter was like it's about time. Yeah yeah that was a majority of the comments of light way. Then it's not captain marvel. It need a lot of it had to do some being a terrible person and a pulley written film yes of course but Brite loss exacerbated that entire thing for being pitch those interviews with other people and all the rest of the caused high. Yeah you gave the physical body language. They do not like being around the world. And I'm get a say this candidly as I can. I've known a lot of women and okay. That wasn't mine Hornbeck people you would be women along the women. They never had good relationships with their mothers or other women and that doesn't show reflection on the other people is reflected on them they cog along and Lawson's pretty much the same like she was doing this answer questions and she just looks so despondent. Yeah to Google desire laws and workout cruiser. Do I were gathered tyrone nine. Yeah doughy and he's flat right. That's what I have a stunt double that has an ass cheeks all the astronauts you save Captain Mobile. That ain't a like on just doing this looking. Got Them physically. Okay yes looking at the women in the you could use the same thing for the men as well right. Yes but just talk about the women if you go by the looks right where Scarlett Johansson she looks turned she looks feet. She works out for those roles and she's a mother as all get pre Lhasa Shimada. I don't think Sir no she looks Doan Pudgy. Tell out of the times she doesn't work out. Yeah you can tell I think comes to that famous thing that I'm Rhonda Rousey hadn't Haddon Discussion with a our reporter because reporter was going at how how much women in Superhero movies have to take care of their physical appearance and allows off and Razzie turnaround. She said so does the man. Yes so do the men both unattainable holidays that we can't tie ourselves to. Yeah like look good. Falkenthal look how bulky he got. That's still my favorite part about the whole captain. Mabul things with the way. She's sitting down and making people come to. My favorite one is with Chris Hemsworth. Who's four and he? He goes around just like they're talking about who's the most powerful and everything she's like well kept the mob was clearly the most powerful and then Chris Hemsworth does this. The gut laughed about it. He found that really abated. It really fucking amused when you heard that and you could tell by the expression everything. Initially she had the knives out towards in light of everything. But it's true. It's like four. Would fucking squash pretend people couldn't when Baillie but basic laser blasts not against y'all got a thunder Odin. Whatever I wouldn't son Yeah That's his actual name name remember. Thor is the title Odin. Knudsen that because of lady for Yeah Yeah but like I said with very loss and you could tell. She doesn't workout lookout for those roles on. Let's take the men for no. She doesn't like climbing over something. Climbing up road with a support support harnessed is not doing a stunt like take the men for instance right out of. Let's say the big three well actually no. Let's say Jeremy in Chris Evans Evans who works out. More out of those. Jeremy Renner and Chris Evans. Yeah Chris Evans Yeah. Of course Jeremy Renner looks more pudgy. He's he's portraying a dad in that Phil. He's betrayed family bad. Yeah he literally her because of family bed. which WHO's the most feeders three array Chris's Chris Pratt Chris Evans Christine's with David Made Fun of Chris? Pratt forbade pudgy. Would say got gateways. Just like DAB at bed the role and that's still making. He had to get off his fuck. Yeah he got he got fucking like at the same time as you should pay. Hi Twenty million dollars or one hundred million dollars to movie. That's your entire Java. See Chris Evans. Got Through buff for the movies Evans. Playing America okay. He got through buff. I think he's biceps. Started become bigger than his face. Yeah look like the real heavy lifting has to get that size first and then you tell the light of the films. He slimmed down yet. This morning coddle humiliation when he's fucking enormous and the first one petty too he slimmed down big time but but the the point. I'm getting at is that you go work for these things Gulf. That don't work out. What was she fucking? Just do a bit of a run every now and then a walk. More Scalia Hansen. She works out. Yeah so Scarlett Johansson the other day homeland three. She was like fifteen in his old. I was like she looks exactly fucking saying there's a homeland four and five as well. That's the thing is all the cool robbers and everything make films hilarious. I'm not in these films. He got her out of facebook. The other day of Joshi at the other guy and it said And and Mom Crime Stoppers Wardi for the Daddy Doug area whichever these try to get to your house is. That's a blatant lying. There are some people that are like all. Keep an eye out any those guys. It's not the Daddy. The people that moved away. So what else did we get here. We are a lot Louis Mash characters. We got a lot of games and everything is law. Tops Games of this year. We had some talks about the game. Awards of what some of the Games were uh-huh yeah I agree with secure. That's definitely deserving of its award surprising SD surprising because I was expecting jeff too and before they come on continuing get up on the stage actually now before the game of the hold on. I'm almost all created abode. Yes yes surprised that he didn't win not even Jeff Keely is in the game which he didn't disclose by the way people Same with the head of Famitsu which or game to to see the actual tally of like how they scored that up to give it all perfect tense goals as well but how do they choose the game award like is it a vote like how how how do they actually i. I can tell that it's Jeff and all these other journalists game journalists as well that get together and to determine it so basically league what it was. I heard that the audience school does does account for about ten percent to note of the thing. That's a big lie. I'm not I think the audience does the the vote would come into it a little bit but it wouldn't be anything that's like Negligible it same as the Time magazine. Vote it doesn't matter what people vote for by the way everyone voted for the Hong Kong protesters protesters not the little girl by the way but she made the cover. That's just telling you have gone to the Hong Kong protests. That's what everyone voted for as well. It was nineteen eight percent for the Hong Kong voters on their website and they chose Gretel. Should be the people who read. That's fucking we'd Hanoi Day. How dare you? How Dare David thank you for talking about people actually fighting for the right day so I talk about? She's she the move on okay. So basically gave me the years. It just comes down to what we played mostly enjoyed and everything else like mash one fighting game of the House last year though came at so actually remember. It's not it's from the token when it comes of the game. We just have games that we played this year in our. Fortunately yes like that one game. I liked it which I wish was way longer than what it was was Catanha's era. I really liked yeah. That's that's an awesome. Yeah that was a great game but it's incredibly short. Say When my friend Pedro Great Game Incredibly Short but think about the CATANHA's era game is that it is a short gain but there are so many different ways to beat every single level. Yeah Holy Crap sewed extends the game like tenfold. You're not really tenfold. If you are thank you beaten again you can run for that like it's nothing. No no no but like take that First Boston for instance you come to him The one on the balcony you can thrown off before you run into the room and kill him before even says one would or you can talk him down or he'll jump off the edge or you could push them off the edge or you can just run away when you I talked to him. There are fucking million different ways not a million different set him free walkway. You can kill him before you enter the thing you could push him off. You can make again to kill himself there quite a few number experimentally spe. Unfortunately that's the only one in the game. You can't do the rest of the other but no you can't for the rest of the of the bosses and I actually went back and tried to do it with the other bosses and different scenarios. And everything you can't do it only that one that gives you the multiple choice even the achievement. Show that that is well. That's basically it now. I remember during the DJ guy differently. Yeah the data you can talk to him and taught not that that you can talk to Jay. Not Listen to him. Yeah that's that's it. That's that's again but they're not really changed. The Halloween tie game ends up at the same time he show. Yeah you will get the default ending for everyone. You don't get special endings or anything else like that massive factory. Sorry kid that feels into its. It's giving you the illusion of choice. Bella stuff it comes down to how the game will end. It's always the one ending that it comes down to every time here if you have multiple album actually fully beaten the game. That's what I'm telling you. Someone has beaten the game and everything the only any reasons you've got multiple times now. That's the thing twice twice and I'm telling you you get the exact same ending for each one. The only difference is who the last boss you fight and that's it you the going gets a psychiatrist boilers but the game a year. Old The psychiatrist or you go against the default against it but it goes back to the exact same ending. Okay now like I'm I'm not sure I haven't beaten the game yet. Yeah and but so you said you've been twice and the universe to different bosses. Yeah you have two different conversations when you have with the psychiatrist you just ignore everything. He says he'll go to that one to the last one. So that's what you come in and you decide giving the drugs every time. GimMe GimMe Gimme. And they'll do it every time until he gets that point where he's just like no he That's when there's the part where you actually go to pick it up yourself and he tells you not to do it but then you can do it then because he set up the thing by denying all the time until I could trippy boss flat and everything okay. That sounds cool. Yeah but yeah but that was a pretty good one like I said Volva digital did a lot once they had those including metal whoop which are going to pick up which ebbe slightly president of the United States in a met game which is phenomenal. Why haven't we seen the trump mode for that yet? Yeah that's what we go out some morning for this game gets a voice clips and everything is low health and you can't fight us. That's fake speak news. Donald Trump work could be Hillary Clinton locker up. What about you Mr Hall? What year game of the year securer? Now we're just talking about a highlights of the game of the year. Yeah though the Games of the Okay I'll just bring up someone's played recently and stuff like that just breaking it down Back to what is your game of the Much of again. It's like it's just a really hard thing because you think about how many hours you put into each ones and everything else like that. And what's it's really hard to say. I like this more than the other one. You done. Pretty much the same stuff. I recommend people to try a judgment. That was the new Game Yakuza developers. That was actually really fun as its Phoenix right but you get the fight back. That's there's a lot of story times in Phoenix Right. Anyone who's played this series noise. You Really WanNA fight back against some of your clients. It's purposely lying to you and sticking to you and everything else like that this this game you can basically the summing up but besides that I can really think of game in the years again we spent so much time laying smash which is from last year and and more looking for stuff to play football the resident evil to remake as well. That was phenomenal this year. But Yeah it's a lot more stuff to look forward to next. She is more than anything else. Like do maternal and resident evil. Three resonable free remake commit. These days is yeah everyone else. You can just take the flow of what you guys for Games a year the plate and everything of course secure as well as like. I said that I can't give that gay enough price like I said also surprise that that actually one game of the year. Yeah for the fact that most of the Jenner's the game journals that played it. He said that I didn't think we'd get game of the. Yeah that's what that infamous meaning actually came from where the one is like. You achieve nothing everything you did was aligned. You did everything that that's where that came from was the Guy One of the journal saying I Pepsi Modest Security easy on to be invincible. So he takes no damage or anything so he could beat the game on pc and that's what someone it had the perfect response on twitter. Basically you cheated yourself. Utd and all this other stuff was just like you have failed as a Gamer. That's it that's the dumbest drive. Never heard yeah well a simple no would have been right. The G- aimed literally teaches you to be better. Yes that's the entire thing about coming back back. Come back you if you fight a boss. He's kicking your ass over and over again you'll eventually get to a point where you learn all of his movements down to fucking the very microseconds microseconds he just fucking flow trial era. Yeah that that's what the game is trial and error game. It makes you better every single time you die you get better and that's like life off every time you get knocked. Danny you BECCA bitter unless you get killed. Then it's done and you've done. It's you know for me. I guess my game of the year that I played. I think there's haggle. Nah Pegos fucking sheet might really Hegel heckles. Also the Raymond can Pagel Zerorez and he's like. Hey Hi Sean I help. Thanks Google the they made it they ended remaking the pig one and it was like a pay to pay to win game really it was called pedal adventure or some shit like that really. Yeah I made pagel pay to play pop cap eventually that we're going to especially you remember plans plans zombies to came out and said Oh by the way you need to pay now. Yeah it's it's not pay but it's free but you only get like one world resin able to definitely was up there for me. I finished up really quickly here. I'm going to go on a limb and I'm GonNa say Something Obscure Saves even though the game dropped last year. The game that we're playing this year is completely different to what we played last year. The game was different. World was six months ago. Exactly and that's why the toll towels update at such a need lighters Zinger remember playing it with Kyle and doing the tests and we almost fucking dot in the dungeon. Because we couldn't get the BICYC- puzzle it was fucking. It's fucking cool like it's fun but I don't have the patience to play because I I'll just just just crash US ship it. You don't have the patience to play games anymore. Think with some games but with that one. I think you just get frustrated. If things don't just happen yeah you can't take in. It's like breath of the wild. Just take your pursued breath the while it doesn't have to but it does and I spent like four as the other is walking into the ele- because I got time to kill all that you love district demand. Why don't you get that? Because I have a playstation the multi-player. It's coming out soon. Yeah man multiply to walk actually. Yeah let's let's get right up man you. I love walking stipulated I'd like sailing simulators. And Hey man like us. You woke up before houses breath of the wild. Thank you need these. It's pretty yes joining Ashley can fuck. He's Pretty Blake because it's about death and she looks to blade that stranding like save fuck off long dark a couple of the updates. I'd say did for that. I love the DACAS gained. So you don't have to do much but it's fucking hard like the strategy. DOC is fucking hard hotter than death straining survival at its heart. Aw Saliva Games. It's watch your health. Meat is the moisture meters. So you don't dehydrate. Feels like it's a lot of those games I still can't do. Any of the challenges is one where a bear tax you the very start and the knee like almost dead and then when you leave your shelter again it attacks you again. How come like ever going into adults at a world because Wilbur? Aj I'd done by default gains. No but it's so pretty you just walk around doing nothing for hours. He bit. That could be any but like it's I'd say I can't explain why I'd like to do and don't and don't expect trying to get at the core of all these things but they're not something like at a world which you can do what you're talking about you can literally just make you earn eventually. You don't I even have to follow the main thing you just do. Whatever the fuck you want in it you can just fuck walk around and just kill based in Shit for you? Want find cool stuff uh with saves it's because the adventures its own reward. Yeah but that's the same in the adventures at the same time. I can't explain why didn't like it and I icewind. Why like some things over others and I never expect anyone to have to explain why they prefer something's ever went on because that doesn't make any sense because it's personal preference? Yeah it's always pay. Whoa what drives that personal preference you can? You should always be able to say okay. I didn't like the aesthetics of Outta world. I didn't really like the guidance eatings. He's likes the visuals pink and purple for me. It's like what is so she'd better. Why does space the PINKS and purples? There's other colors in that was wanted planet. That's the first part of the planet. They're all the same. You just told him he can do. What thirty one? And in fact. He's the first impression he's doing what he's like but he's talking about the pink purple not playing it wrong. You have to play this joy under house other planets and everything. I played that. That's enough for me probably more. That's all the game is and I'm saying it's it's not there are other planets so that doesn't make any luck when you go to a space station. There's no peaks a purple fucked up on this place bay station. Yeah yeah that's not a planet so you want to go to planet. I don't even WanNa play the game. Sega I'm just trying to get. I'm just explained to you that like I don't know what it is. It's like the main Laurean three of my favorite teams in the world. The good the bad nearly try Gordon Cowboy bebop firefly film race not just contract. My inter- ended a don't know why. Why does my sense? Why or how how does it? It doesn't make sense to you but it doesn't even make sense to me and I'm trying to figure out why if I cod figured out there's nobody out together but we figured that out of space because you like I bought. I just didn't leave a very good first impression. That is that that's fine. What does the most important thing that you like? Audit like those colors when it comes I just I really don't know why I just con. Explain it it's because you're a racist 'cause I fucking hate mandatory and scum owner Keith. Him Across fucking building now. I can't explain it and same without a world's it's it's I don't know maybe I didn't explore enough of the alternate options but when it comes to those four. That's fine made a terrible first impression. Not what I'm saying. What I'm saying is I didn't attempt any of those exploration options but when it comes to the conversational dialogue of those games it annoys me? I just I just. I'm seemed like some guys like. Hey do this and then another guys like. Hey no I would rather you do this instead. Can you guys just fuck off. And let me just see. He take take all that story out. Have doing jobs like save but in space then apply it. Yeah well that's the whole thing about out a world's you literally I choose how you want to do the jobs you can do it violently. Not You can literally just go to town of purge every town and still complete the main game. That's that's you can just go go in and every place I think it'd be more the simplicity. Simplicity of safe. They got to me. I just completely understand all that cheat but I don't like the answer I just don't like it. I don't like that Shit I don't like yeah I don't like except like unfortunately there's GonNa be things that I don't like I can't give you a defined raisin for and you don't have to extract one because because it doesn't have to be like sometimes it won't be a reason it just didn't resonate generally yeah well and even that's a very broad answer but if just saying it didn't resonate with me is good enough and that's good enough for. Is that good enough. No no exactly so then. Don't push it because I don't I can't explain it and I understand that's that's close minded and odd. Yeah I can I can. I can identify that but I still can't explain it ashes something that you're going to have with because God. I'm never going to get over because I think I don't like something because it didn't resonate with me. I don't like it no I should again because it didn't resonate with me because you're like Whoa okay defined resonate with me. Well what does that even mean enough out of it to give me a good impression. It didn't give me an impression that I wanted to keep doing it. Yes so you didn't like it because you didn't lock it. That's literally that literally. That's pretty much what you're saying. You don't like demand alluring. Because you don't like it. Yes yes but that's the resignation it's still it didn't give me anything. It didn't give me a rush of blood. They can be as simple as that if if if you don't get it's like a dating. If you don't get the tingles why do you keep doing it. And if you sometimes you can't explain why you didn't feel that way because maybe maybe you maybe you. But at the same time sometimes his unspoken beings and unspoken things that just as important as Bergen beings. If you don't feel as if if a game doesn't invoke a certain emotion or Seychas focusing emotion or a feeling that makes you feel like you WanNa continue yes chemical. Yeah and that's something that sometimes undescribable grabble and that's the way you just described their so basically you don't find the mandatory entertaining because it doesn't invoke any emotional final response within you. Yes but that's the same. That's exactly what you say. I don't understand that Christmas. We're GONNA give review microscope and all of my hair on my head. Okay and you can spend your time. You've moved away splitting them to your heart's content. I don't Ah. I'm not satisfied with the answers. I don't like it because I don't like I just can't I don't like those answers may was wrong. Did you said this part about the game but all I said was about. That's just that one planet. What about afterwards? That's all I was mentioning some of the guys from us if you if you don't like the Promo Zone Tokaido like it. Just because you like it and he will be personally responsible for but you should like all of that permits. 'cause they're awesome and they great podcasts. And the people that turn to us they actually you know before before we go to the premise. Eric I would take the exact same issue is somebody says has like this and because I like it why do you like it. This is just opening a whole new. But it's the exact same thing that you're saying I would be like. Why do you like it i? I don't know at the same time they. Sometimes I really like things that are con- described while liked it. 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We'll discuss a means as well as the names of two thousand nine. Let's go and talk about TV. Shows anime movies movies. We would definitely discuss games or what we do a dirt like true. Let's go into TV. Shows Gusty goes yes shows of this year. Do you guys have any memorable ones. I have about this one that I really really fucking WanNa Watch and that is the wore. The Wilton did that come out and see. Oh my God I saw some clips of it on Youtube I'm like holy fucking Shit. This looks amazing. Why haven't I seen this yet? Yeah I actually did a solid cost on these couple of months ago I came out. I don't know if you've listened to it or not. And this Holocaust all about war of the worlds and it's starting in every single incantation taste of war of the worlds since then finishing with the BBC's adaptation to dight it's probably the best thing we've seen a war of the worlds. I just saw this one sane randomly. It was them on the beach or something kind of had a very normandy. kind of feel to it. Yeah and the fucking walks. I like the shooter those giant cannons at the walkers and stuff and the figures. There's the tripods have fucking if fitted shields it stuff that they are taking adapted because they made it in modern times so they had to say why they couldn't get affected by a weapon does Bouche I hate those reasons. That's why I love that one saying I haven't seen it. I just. I fell in love with that same award to watch this. The only deep problem I had with it was it's a shilling Had A really bad international relations and also domestic schedule. It's domestic English. Schedule was is a three potter and then the release schedule abroad was a two part miniseries fraught so I was under the impression that was a three pot so I'd gotten to the end. The second pot may analysts watched it now. A lace is someone who would have never watched that ever it instantly became her top shove. Twenty eight hundred twenty. Nineteen I'm sorry who I don't know since I showed a stargate. She's being a complete so-fi Nude Nice. Where if not the next generation again? They're ill and that's something. I never shop buell generation. But he doesn't like it because it doesn't lock it doesn't like it. Yeah because he doesn't like it yeah so she thought she was going to hide it. I showed her trial. She's like this is going to be the worst thing. She could not get enough of it by the end of it. They did something really interesting with with it. So basically yeah the main character George. and His Mrs Georgia's like doc meant to be blocked the narrator of the whole thing but so basically talking about the racial relationship at the end of the second pot. I was like cool one more but then when it ended I show. There's one more that seems like it's very indie like it does seem very andy doesn't it and then I looked at off. Hang on that was is the end. or how many episodes do to one and a half Arab hazards or ray one hour episodes. Okay it really depends on the relationships. Yup All right fair enough and we all know that bad relationship jewels day. They're literally digging a series. Gripe with bad. Oh Yeah let's let's take firefly for instance firefly Fox's like no don't understand this show No one's GonNa like this first episode. Salacious play started the second episode. What the fuck is this shit? It's just dumbo. Who All these people? I know that introduce everyone and sets up the whole story and pacing and just waiting. Why are you such a bad writer? wrote the introduction for no no it doesn't exist yes unfortunately that kind of It made it hard because it was releasing it released in New Zealand. A what streaming services on none none so would have been on. ABC UK it. Four where the fuck do I find it to watch it. I managed to get it well so we have Lebron and it did I in New Zealand even before England. Okay okay because the international cities is where it gets really confusing. I I take full. Global data relational they made a deal with New Zealand's Mike One of their channels to do premier and it was Ju- in England for another the three weeks after that so he came in Zeeland visits. Warily shedules get really foxton annoying. But yeah so we still haven't had we had a premier in N- yeah this month foxtail even though it's not coming out in October and it was really hard to find even on the Internet dazzled so it's really frustrating that they make things so difficult and that will kill a TV show it will even if it's a miniseries and that's because he had the Hetero past and present thing going on throughout the series as well which is really well done like immersed things if they don't make them money back within the first. How many wakes of releasing something there? It's not going to see a second season you'll all this says I can say again with that all like it will just die like as well. Let's see it as fast as it came as the Mawson as the Martians once came with their fighting machines and when crippled justice quickly with the mayors and bacteria that destroyed the it disappeared but it will forever live on as the greatest rendition of Saint. Other than Jeff. Wayne's war of the worlds musical. The goliath animated movie. That's pretty fucking dumb. I really liked that very well. Animated Jeff Wayne The company that did the musical version of the musical vision obsessed with they released a immersive experience in London where you go in. It's like theta play VR. Everything you're actually. You've you've watched it live. You've listened to it now. Live it budget. People just thought Eh. It was funny I was when I was doing a tape dive about that. The whole thing. Do you know the Tom. Cruise War of the worlds made was a commercial success on all fronts. It was the fear ears and Steven Spielberg Nulla that is do you WanNa know something fucked. So this film company Call Call Pendragon pitches right and the director. Who wanted to make who he? They made them worth wells. Movie came out in two thousand and five as well. They originally approached paramount pitches and this guy. He loved war of the Worlds. He was like. I'm obsessed I WANNA make a perfect movie. He approached him in two thousand said. I've got a script. He's written in a perfect script. Would you like to do with that. I cannot unity fuck off come two thousand and five. They released their version and totally dominated. He's one one during release and just just completely like sent him back to the Stone Age. Five companies I was sparked and success in Hollywood what is measured so widely like could make back back then money within the first week but still be a commercial failure because it it didn't reach projected sales. Yes but sometimes I'll change projections based on defaced week. Yeah Yeah but then though still they'll still come out a commercial failure values even though it may one hundred billion dollars whatever was one hundred billion dollars to be a very costly thing. I'm just saying like huge opposite. Is it example. Because it didn't make a hundred or two hundred billion dollars. It's a commercial failure. That's how Hollywood Hollywood works Muscle much what about automated nick for your TV shows. That is a series. Well I'd like to talk about the film that came at the end of a TV series. which was El Camino was the sequel to breaking bag? Thousand Movie Offering Avenue which is about Jesse Pink men that come on. Yeah Nigga freaks. Yeah it's on Netflix. And this is about Jesse Pink men after wall to what has died and basically the empires collapsed and everything building himself philosophies resources to get a clean slate to get away coup and of course he has bad memories of the The ex girlfriend of heroin and everything old. He's bad memories of Walton and everything else if he's upbringing on that but a very satisfying ending. I actually can say about the same cuisine. Senate breaking bad but when it comes to other surprise of this year Netflix actually published a proper episode of Invader Zim for its movie was phenomenal Donald. Yeah I can not stress of how good this was. This is anyone who's watching Zimmerman just said. I wish we got one last episode one more episode. This movie is the laws is being episode very putes this classic from the series but this movie is literally my moments when new Kyle watching is busting our asses up laughing but they. I'm not going to spoil anything because it's just such a great what was just to see. Oh yes this ball is that has been so long scoring. He's become the NEAT merge physically merged to these CEVA. He grabs the chair and he needs to excise shape shape again and actually professional trainer on the on Youtube US ones actually broke down saying yeah. It's possible to get that big and then slipped back down again Grafted say own stuff or the the main came from that is not scientifically possible. It came from his. I tomorrow is going to be Peace Day and everyone is more excited for this. Not Scientifically Possible. Only if only another animated series series brought out a movie from our childhood wrong nulla movie wrong thirty nine minutes not a movie. Yeah if another series did that it's never going to happen. But they use the same the same plot that they did for another episode and anyone that pointed at Abbas called a sexist racist homophobes of yeah. That's what happened talk about something else. Are you talking about Rocco Broncos. That's exactly what happened. Is it really funny that we've got two things we've got invited him man. It's exactly exactly like the original. It's got everything the original had but more it's awesome roka's hey it's exactly like the original. It sucked no it. Wasn't it wasn't anything. Unlike the original whatsoever and again that's what they've recycled plot but did it bad. They did it bad and of course you got to. You got to put it in perspective that they've tried to pitch to us that they living in modern era like the one thousand and everything. No one has access to the Internet. Yeah not one person brings up the jury. He's he's how I see it right. You Watch with with those with the original invader Zim in the original. Th The hilarious right where the new rockers walkers Motorola every sucker plot but it didn't really recycle the comedy had its moments where you like ha ha I remember that chuckles. Yeah took too many safe bets Betas. It is easy to recycle plot or anything like that but they did rate they brokeback Dick. Comedic humor and stuff so it got better. Yeah that seat where workers motor life been static cling to safe. I ran all the best jokes are in that trailer. That's it yes he said it's a very small segment from the film and the rest is all garbage like for like a like a TV series. That started with like fist episode. Making a rape joke about okay. Yeah to cling. Were just too safe. That's the power actually laughed about the character that returned in that one as well. It was the recycling monster the pile all of garbage and everything. That's saying the recycling song everyone remember what expect the next pot. Distinctively of that song is that we should not be using aerosol cans or anything because the ozone hole is GonNa and get layer and then we're getting bigger and then everyone's going to die but they dimension in this film for some reason. I wonder what happened to that character. That big hole is his own leg or replace with climate checks just going to say my favorite characters from that rocker from rock her and the new Rocco episode that got released with those to blizzard guys. What are they called? Yes Ben and Swedish just awesome everything they do they just they just consistent CAANADA. They were hilarious. They come on. I fucked but back to the whole thing yet. Rucker Guard just released it episode with the same plot comedy turtles change in Invader Zim new plot. Same Comedy Beautiful. You're so now you've got a problem is when you have have specifically characters that come in the show and they stopped preaching to you of how you should be thinking and feeling as well I fucking hate that more than anything else and. That's exactly what happened. Rocco we had a cloud. Oh come on. We're going wokers. Well you just have to shift each the winds of change as I know I don't at all. Thank my choice. Fuck popoff clad say. netflix brought a lot of a lot of ups and downs this year. Yeah it'll Netflix. COMES DOWN TO NETFLIX. Italy's just doing what Netflix does. But when it comes down to much people say well we talked about like strange things. But everyone's talking about all that stuff everything that's spoilers. It wasn't that great. Yeah that that too was but average but I would say but when we talk about say other subjects or anything like anime was phenomenal. This year I can easily free channels. Phonology was you include one of the big ones which is how many kilograms do you lift which was massive in Japan. When I went there to Blu ray stolen here yeah? They had all the posters and they had it playing constantly and everything I praised the series because it made exercising a positive thing and they actually made mockery of what I always said. The biggest problems was gyms with the second they come in. It's all the big dude too But they made it more fun and enjoyable and everything else which is really good for the series the high again Finland Saga which I said what beserk should have been don like again. The same studios of worked on Tax Titan did Finland saga another one. I watch recently. They worked on his WILCO thorough. which is off a Texaco story of the a child? In old feudal Japan with parents want to make sure the land will do well so they sell their son off to the demons so he's born without eyes and skin and everything else like that because they didn't finish that one. Yeah Yeah what happens is the son grows up. And he's taken care by Dole handlers things so he's actually a walking doll person but every demon he defeated gets a pot of him back every time. I talk about that right. It's like it's really cool. It's a anime about an anti-abortion message right. It's like those gates at anti-abortion able portion anime. It's about a woman and a family. Try to their child pretty much but the child surviving. Did you ever come back. And he's just like no no man. I'm like Yeah Eh. Right then the anti-abortion. Cj really say with making up stop. You should actually read. What Texaco believes in and everything else? This man was very hard coal rightous when it comes down to a lot of other stuff like he. No I'm not joking. He called out modern Western studios because they member. He pitched episode astro boy with the one we got. The dog got turned into a robot and everything they they had in the studio he showed it to. They had a big fuss about showing the operation in which you see nothing and he turned around and said well look at all the fucking animal trophies. You GotTa ran this office like everything else like fucking pop barrick. What I'm shown is a surgery that natural and helps the dog? You you know. He he talked about the stuff all the time that he just hop pop. Crecy of everyone walked to win and everything else like that. All right guys. Why did you talk about your TV shows? There was there was a few really good ones. That scream season three came out this year that was fantastic screaming up that TV series. He's also What was it what the fog cold slash season three now the whodunnit that was fantastic? Yup once she kinda got over the fact that like got to the point of where it like taking a piece of itself which was interesting and also it was just a cautionary tale of why not to say dump sheet on twitter. Huw you've been. There's been a lot of gravy shows that come out this year. We had walking dead size and ten start fee the walking dead season five which bump all unfortunately did not cut cotton. Hutton run year induce. Well good year for TV next year we actually one. TV show until when particular started she. It was called a Unicorn. Starring Walton Goggin also from the shield as four had men or taste guy just about a guy who's living the single life after his wife is. It's it said to sweet comedy I really enjoy it. He's announced that I recently just I recently just watched some Zombie to oh I was at those fine net like okay. I didn't know it was like ten years since land one came out that long so this company I was just like. Yeah so zombies killing zombies Complaints Yeah just zome. Huma wasn't anything neurotic about the. Nah I love Emma Stone. She fucking hilarious. FUCKING JESSE ICEBERG over. His name is Michael Sarah or he's pullman or is Michael the poem Jesse and then there's the other guy at the main character from a woody Harrelson now the main character from what's what's it That other show the capture. What's a culture that comedy culture that everyone loves the company culture that there's a lot of uh-huh yeah he's also he's like the other those tweet that's right out that in Lulea islands? Yes I do not lie but yeah with Zombie Lancaster. It just yeah more zombies doing shit supposedly zombies Evolving said a stronger. And that's about it. My favorite character was the DC blond in it fucking hilarious y Gil just surviving on our own in a mole in a phrase and she's a bad as one actually joy watch. It's an enjoyable watch. I'M GONNA go back to see it in a hurry. Not particularly we but it's a key popcorn flick said Emmerson. I think has the best facial expressions. She does yeah she saw animated with. Yeah I was talking about the facial expressions and then she looks everyone she gets her. I'm like yeah exactly. But yes fucking hilarious. Supposedly People Award they say nerve in audit. I didn't see it doing. I didn't think she'd ever say no to that. Yeah because it's just fun like from the opening opening theme where they just fucking mowing down all these on the lawn of the White House. I was pretty hilarious. Yeah we'd facial expressions so you so you wouldn't go back to wash his second anytime soon but you probably would go back and watch the first one because Leah someone still just brilliant. Yeah the second one is more of the first one okay. We'll good at least complaints because I was worried that it could've been either really average or really really bad. Yeah yes yeah. It was like some of the best parts are they. Are they go to these Colin Equal Babylon and they're all they're all Pacifists so yet they take your weapons meltdown at the AP civil jerk right at the edge where there's all behold cover to this babbler. You would have got a kick out of these Negro and the guys like okay does anybody you know how to fight. One of the guy puts his head to the. I know how to fight. Okay you're with us. He's like yeah. I know how to fight racism sexism and there were like you're the first one to die. Just it's like yeah you is like what he's like. Yeah thank you sacrifice. That's what will happen because people if you're in Zombie apocalypse. If you're faster than the other person that's that's a good sign. Yeah but they're all hippies dog fights sakes this place and woody Harrelson just like fucking Ed Bouchette. That'd be alive. They would have been exploited. Tom You know the little rock could I miss. She finds his boy she goes off with. Woody Harrelson finds out about it and then he finds out that he went to Berkeley and he's just like Berkeley. I don't hate it. I just want to punch it. It's like they really really. I'm surprised I didn't hear a lot of outrage about that. Movie veep because they would kind to social justice warriors in that era. But it's becoming more common now so I think the silent majority of going. Oh that's cute cute now but remember the majority not the small part. It's the that's that very loud minority. But even they get drowned out by. Oh that's cute. Yeah that's exactly. It's looking at the results. Now that we're seeing political and everything else. They're getting drowned. Found out they allowed on twitter. And that's IT Johnson. That's cute yeah. Nobody cares it's like yeah. You used to be able to blame. Diaby boomers for voting in the are for voting in the Conservatives but now I liked that landslide. It's not just the baby room. I'm sorry yeah. It's free generations. Now with uh-huh why millennials all that matching up. Sorry you've ran out of reason. Just telling people how to vote and calling them idiots if they don't vote the way they want to. Whoever thought that would have gotten on your bed? I yeah speaking of other movies again. I wanted just remember now. This is another TV series. That got a movie release. which was the deadwood movie The dead it was a Western series low set in the town of Wood and everything and basically the guy who has one. Is the mustache man and everything who does all the bad dealings and everything. Because he's the one that keep order to the town say can't copy cock soccer and everything that's the one of my favorite scenes is that he's dealing with on. The show is that he found out he was meant to get What is it what was it? What's the drug that they had before method or anything else like that? When you smoke you're supposed to get opium for the Chinese connections that were in the town? But then the Chinese Johnny's men who speaks no English basically comes with a piece of paper's like Cock sucker Cock sucker cook suck up Cock sucker. Okay I'm going to try and break this down. This cock Sucker Hawk ran off with this cocker ha with my drugs. How White Cock sucker? Yeah yeah now I got it Good yes I got this year as well I got it the series on Blu Ray. It's Like I said the movie ended a certain point where they're left themselves open for this movie and the movie was very satisfactory as well again. The original rights came back just like Oh Camino had a the budget they did with HP and everything else like that and another great satisfying ending. That's all I can say about a Lotta series that I watched the major you them. I got satisfying ending out of all. It's another satisfying anywhere approaching. It's not going to end in twenty eight nineteen but it's going to be twenty. We got the style of the final season of supernatural. Yeah that's coming to an end which is amazing. That's being on Feb seventeen easily. Yeah just wonder what the fuck are GonNa Cause Eric for God and I thought God every other week then got fucked off. Yeah I know. I'm thinking they might go with Eva ending. It's all I police ordinary things like. What are you doing over there? But I am here but you are there. Saw saw congratulations. Congratulations Congratulations Steve. Well we're gonNA Scooby Doo Eddie. House God's name into in this series off yeah expense ratio when they did it was like. Oh Oh yeah. That's actually actually God. I literally has. Ed Does Editing Pals. How it's GONNA end? It's going to have a massive. It's going to carry on my way so so that it's just going to have the ending for like the future. It's going to be like a probably ten years down the track of their entire life after that order. That'll happen one of the brothers dies. No I think if anyone dies at we CASS probably. I'm hurting have a happy ending or you know remember held Sam was dead for awhile. Dane married a cheek and then she ended up A rising and rising memory so she could go to bed him hopi ends up with her. I Kirby somehow gets back with her up. I think it's happy seventeen years. I want them to both happy. I wanted to be like okay. This is it and then it has like a small scene where it's it's ten years and they've got families. Yeah I I really hope so because after all the Shit I've been through in the amount they've sacrificed to Cape a siphon Earth doesn't even fucking K yeah yeah I hope they have good swans well. That's the thing that they're writing their own story now. God's not ready so they can kind of have that they wanted. Yeah I really like how before God that was when she. Yeah Yeah so yeah. He's he's hoping for happy ending Yep But all they get if they wanted exactly yeah if they don't want it. I both die sells really up to them. Do you guys want to talk about Maine's yes yeah. Well it means memes this year. Well we got obviously number one that caused people get angry Hongkong clown world and it's true we're living in take a love. The plan will mean but my favorite is definitely. How dare you? How dare you every single time? I see see that just laughing at of Lafayette at the whole. I'm partially Lafayette Lafayette. Yeah that's how it works. It's hilarious like a child is telling me that get yeah. She's telling the older generation. It's like this little pal. I'm trying to hold off an all generation the other day I'll just I'll just ignore me. That's how they do it to destroy society as you come here and just how about that you will. What are your some of your favorite names say this year? I've only just caught up on main from two thousand ten so now some of my favorite names are still continuing Um to be continued names regardless of the anything that song from the Joe. Joe's yeah that's the job to be continued to add like this like the song is standardized by the way but I always had ending of thin and attitude and at the worst possible moment. The show you'll have like casual Watson they'd you'll have like like once Al Fateh fortunate that after h those cover styled so what was killed. It's almost feel very bad because it stopped at the time. I don't feel guilty because anything happens. Yeah one of my favorite ones of that. One is the guy to somewhere in Europe in the snow and everything he's just like speaking Russian. The hannam abuse. Yeah sure and he goes and he frozen you can see the end of the ball right about the hit him in the this Friday phenomenal another but what do I forever woop This year we can talk about this decade. I mean but is one from my hero today where it's just like he. Here's the quick Fred belly just quick and they just read the word after it like these guys the coq of cut. Yeah you just put it with like me too much. What's another one? That's actually actually taken off. His twitter page called nine eleven. Did everything so basically. It's just like this is responsible for nine eleven and they just put a photoshop every time and the new one was the latest one. When was the xbox? One and people will dislike. Oh that's too far anything's I bitch. I saw when Hogan kicked down the World Trade Center. Not Happy traded say to would you say yeah. That's one way you know he's doing the whole like what you're gonNA do over the rubble and everything else like. What's your favorite what we'll try to say to? One daughter is the knicks tickets also turns into the plight of crashes out just because I see that fucking coming form the original. She tries to talk about. But this it makes me feel bad for offering coverage is kicking the fighting a good job he catches by surprise talking. That was the best. Say with the whole hog nine on eleven th. They're pretty fucked. We have had a decade of interesting stuff from the Internet. Internet's really amalgamated into these. This vicious it base that will take you into our society now we everything is now related around the Internet. Yeah that's exactly how Japan so he's got off by them every time okay. How did you find a stolen everything and just say intimate and they everyone just understood? It's just you just find translators or anything it just can be found on the Internet and that's what it comes down. It's like my game collection has exploded tenfold after discovery of the incident. Because I can just by any way overseas or get games like that. It's it's given us way more power than a lot of us realized that what we used to have some time before there's no internet and it really sucked. Everyone can tell you that the present time we didn't know any better say yeah socked it would suck now. Yes but that's the thing is I people get nostalgic for the pasta everything. No we didn't can have any internet. I'm sorry everything you used to and you comfortable now you would hate it if you passed exactly. I'm bored. Read a book was anything else. Will you can get on that horse cotton and try and find some entertainment that horse and take care of it and I'm talking about like straight talked with like a whole foods that when it comes down to people say like they missed the ninety Azazel the eighties or anything else like that. It's like yeah but you don't miss you miss the modern company that you have now that you take advantage of the second you turn up there. You'd be like where's this this and this light that don't exist yet. People just missed stauber of those things. Yeah I like old shit like I like old stuff and everything like you. Because collection action. The biggest game range is from all the retro. So yeah yeah of course. Easily zilk good people cared. They cared about selling busy. Eh interesting one I guess not only we coming at the end of the year. We're coming to the end of the decade to twenty tens saying hello to the to twenty US news. One thousand one hundred twenties. So sweet twenties bootlegging GONNA come back they gonNA beat alcohol. bootlegging never went away villages. Yeah well that's actually thing. We actually just recently here in Australia had a Boston. Eleven one hundred million dollars worth of alcohol that was bootleg like yeah which she's in bridges made bootleg alcohol place which is in bridges in the massive bootlegged. Really make it look at what alcohol so so. That's the one I'm talking about. Is People that actually buy you know the actual products wants and then they sell it for a further price nourish the intimate. Yeah thank you. Today allows hassle. Then he made it easy to bootleg okay so coming to the end of this. What are some things? Let's say fuck off to stuff. What do you WANNA say? Fuck off now. What do you mean by that? It's like what kind of trends or what kind of. Oh I just I just want everything about brexit. The fuck off to just happen in. Oh Yes yes. Yep Yep I'm tired of seeing shit like that. All my fade. Yeah I mean how long are they. Wastage is doing it giving billions of dollars to European Union. Do Fuck all all in shape and you vacuum cleaners. Just get out and it's five okay. It's ova voted for but then you hugh of earning four. Whenever if a bar associate Sousse should they didn't know what all over before in the name they wanted to lead a pretty sure the referendum question was like hey do you want to leave the European Union? Yeah I don't understand I like what the fuck I mean. If you don't understand that simple simple simple simple simple question. I'm sorry you should not be voting in a country star show. I believe lead your medical your medically unfit not electrically unfit to actually vote. You understand the question shirow. Do you want to leave the European Union. I mean if he voted no. Because you understood you didn't want to and that's one hundred percent okay. You're within Europe for democracy to vote however you feel walk. Democracy doesn't work when it doesn't go your way it turn around and say all anybody who voted yes didn't understand voting for there's brexit. There's a lot of other things I could say. I wish they would go way by never know it will never will it. Will we know like the whole climate change is now no. There's people going up down about that but it's like come on everyone. Let's be honest it's gone beyond hysteria right win. A bomb has just purchase of a beachhead mansion. Not just that word no. I'm just talking about if everyone's behavior towards it and everything trying to say like oh it's already over in ten years or anything else like that. It's a slight now we've had actual people do real research if it did happen. Exactly likely what you're saying and this is the one I saw from billionaire just perfect. He said if ten years and we had the rising of ten meters award as he said he made it he tells. It's even if it's ten days. Even if say the worst possible case in our worst possible case scenarios he signed the worst title at ten meters is he said is the worst possible. England is gone. Much of Australia has gone along. The coast agency might may major steel on the personal. Any Co city is all gone. South America has gone he. He broke down these countries. Everything's light so why the fuck a bank still giving out forty forty to fifty year loans. When you say it's going to be over in ten years the world will be over? Then they're not gonNA get their fucking money back and that's the main points like you pretending that the people on top Hopwood Pallor don't pay for this research to actually know what the fuck is going on especially banks when you know they regulate the entire market. They have to know how the market is going to be in the future for them to purposely regulate so they always going to be in the position to keep financing and making money and giving at Lawrence. That's a whole banks. Existence is to keep giving out money. They they survive on a loan system. It's how they've always existed all the time and everything so suddenly turnaround say like all the stuff ahead from of Cortes sayings. It's already over in ten years and everything else like that. Shut the fuck up. You have any evidence that could happen and if it did happen you'd have a completely different reaction from our current system. Right now you'd have banks cutting off loans straightaway. They'd be saying sorry everyone you have to make any efforts. You can't get out of the cities and everything else like that because we're not going to be here. The banks will be the first to leave that Really sick and tired of seeing fucking shit about Sydney's bushfires about the actual bushfires but people using that to talk about Climate Change Marsh Marsh Mercer Mercy. Look at all these smokeout CD. Hawk changes so bad motherfucker. That's the smoke from the fires and of course it's I mean the the FIS cynical. They they happened. Every fought anonymous particularly bad jeanine. Marsha them lit as well There were like 'cause they're liberate. Yeah Okay it's very very very very very difficult for a fighter. Start on its own. Yeah like if you think about really carefully unless you have particularly dry area and then the exact right conditions Asians for like five. I can't even fuck with fuck and speak. Yeah right so yeah. Lots of these. Were deliberately lit some backburning gone out of control. Someone just deliberately people at mismanagement of Ranges and things like that you got to cut down trees people do understand this when you see people cutting down on trees from from canceled because they fuck evil fucking Calcutta believes the plight of village. We want more pollution. That's exactly that's exactly. What the main issues? My cousin lives at Mary's. He says that is always a big issue. Because he's the only person that goes around and closed that that all the trees and trimmings and extra stuff like that and people who question wise donate he's look how much kindling is all around the houses and everything people one of this goes up. We'll all go up and they. He had to explain to many times. He's doing this to save their asses in the process but yeah I don't like them using the bushfires as political gains the people's lives they term came out the other day and was slamming Scarborough yeah why. Yeah I mean Fuck Hunt. We actually have a lot of listeners and also other podcasts in Sydney so hopefully you're old safe definitely. I agree darn locking it to don't use it. Don't use any event for political career. I know everyone always will. But especially when this people's lives and they likelihood that only now how the Sydney government has been managing. The emergency. Service of the file can be brought into question. I think I I'm not too. I'm not too well researched in that what I could give it a bit. More research into that Basically what it comes down to the fire department is completely separate from the government while other people who understand that because worker unions ensure that happens. Yeah but basically yeah. The unions still turn around and demand more funding all the time. They do have the right to fight the fires and everything else like that but everyone what has to understand. Fighting fires takes a really really long time when there's a lot of them and limited resource one of the things that I always found that and one of the claims that were going around. Is that the Sydney government cut funding to the the fire department. This year or something for the new tax thing right and everyone's like oh how dare they cut blah blah equipment and whatnot. I'm like okay let me have lucrative. I actually went through the budget to check it out right then. Cut The funding they. Tim Get extra funding. Had the exact same amount of funding. Yeah there is something there are few things that they cut back on that but nothing that would have affected their jobs. One of the things have cut back on his long service. Leave for new fighters yes sir. Previous fight is this still getting paid the same. Their money isn't going down or anything like that. This they'll get in Nella service. Leave at a fucking lot by the way. It's new firefighters a kind of losing losing out and the reserves as well yes sir are well I just I just question the idea that on this actually wasn't he don't worry this is like there's a couple of other claims that I've been saying like I don't know if they really are not like supposedly there are some fighter's ago that a lou their volunteer firefighters that a losing A new start and things like that because they've gone to go fight the fires. But then the Turnaround saying that's not good enough. I don't believe that well. That's that's something I want to fuck off at the end of the twenty tens is I hate going through about nineteen different articles before I find the truth beyond. Yeah Yeah I'm secret and even snoop seeing things things they used as doesn't give you. The most accurate likes most is like we are not affiliated. left-wing at all. That's why I went through seeing these fucking tax thing to see this whole concept Eh. The wrong yeah. Yeah we'll see if like technically. They weren't wrong. Technically they were making some cuts to the long-service slaving stuff like that. But but again wrong they were just not being given more money. That is is in funding funding. Yeah and you have to go back to these original because these these lies say spreads off my face just folk the focus because they're letting people die and bidding. I'm like yeah government. That would would be around if it allowed people to die. Yeah yeah that is a criminal offense. Yeah yeah that's criminally negligent negligent. And the thing is if you don't trust your government like you know I've not trusted a few people in my time but the thing is you need to stop being such a negative Nellie l. e. about the government and start asking what you can do. Yeah starting stopping one of those people who sit on the couch and go world days my future gone. Make your own fugit. Yeah people like to say that these are the worst bushfires cities ever seen. I'm not sure about that claim Ivan. Check that out but again I think you boy Scott. I'm not sure what how his position would be. Is he supposed to declare a state of emergency for Sydney because that's what he's been criticized on because it is the Sydney problem. It's not really a a national problem. Federal problem for federal so. He doesn't really have the the power our to do anything does he or does he not know he can. He can declare state emerged. Rely yes But the thing is a lot of people slamming for the fact that he didn't go out you know and go around talk to people affected time. Yeah well I think the last thing I'd WanNa do is if I was affected by bushfire is to say some Wanka politician coming to say that comer a good job and like come in and tell me like. Don't worry things are going to get taken care of. It's like could you fuck off around the country. Yeah and he doesn't need to go there. Yeah just send aid read. That's all you need to do like who cares. I don't if all is in CD fighting. The fires aren't giving fuck if the politicians to come down and try to shake my hand. The police coming up all right. That's what I'll fucking stop throwing shit at in Blake. Shelton these. He's he's he's. He's reasoning behind not going be didn't want to use a travesty as political gain. And I think that's a pretty okay like I'm never gonNA slam do for being on it. Not Comfortable okay man and he started slap them like ten Malcolm. Turnbull was left. left-wing rightist. so He's a runner. Yeah well the one is of America that means it means Republican name bubble use as write in name only in other words. We call the other people that pretend that they left. And they pretend that in off the centrists centrists everyone. I know what they're doing is wrong. But you're just as bad as damn right. No we're not calling censorship. There's a big fucking difference. The Mont Pledge For the end of the twenty does ease secret as politicize -ation of movies and media. I want that to fuck off good. I'm seeing this quarter building. I'm sick of these other all this other shit when a movie comes out just take it at face value and just move on both sides. Yup like if if you've got a fucking Mary Sue for the sake of Mary Sue Fair enough just on watch it and if you've got like if you don't have liked the representation from each culture in it that's okay we're watching. Don't watch it out. Those people don't understand how much money they have within their wallet. Power they have if you don't like it don't spend your self and eventually everything she's right. People just criticized besides movies on the merit whether or not good. Not Based on the political science without feeling a checklist. That makes it a good. If we're GONNA talk about if we're going to talk about what makes good film you still have to follow the basic of storytelling. That's what always comes down. It always comes down to the rules rules. That always always will apply. But it's not a checklist just saying like well let's see. Let's get the cancer okay. Let's see minority's minority check check check dirt and a lot of people get customer loss but that's how it usually works when it comes down to. They don't care what who's this character is or anything else like that. It should be this this this disentitlement. That's where we come with the NETFLIX issue. In modern films issues where they're not coming out like the source material that they complain about is because they become a Boston is mess of their former selves. Yeah and that's depressing. That films have just become another -nother like an I know they've always had that hint of politicisation in them. But since the age of the Internet's really. Yeah it's always been hidden. Yeah exactly you can watch those movies and be like okay. That's a good film and then later on like a few more times Kim messages in films like shoved in your face so hard that a fist is gonna come out of the screening punch you in the face and brand new and they don't understand forgotten how to tell stories properly you don't get again. The Classic Comedian Chuck of of your comedian. If you have to explain the joke that means that joke didn't fucking work that did you just let it go so so you have to go to the store. And actually and everything every American seacombe every American Sitcom where they have to repeat the joke every time and everything and then wait for the cloud the not audience there to laugh five minutes. Joke of the episode is explaining why the joke is. Funny Yeah I agree with Nick when it comes but I'd say the main part of hopeful any another year is I hope more people do exactly what Konica talked about. Before is I when it comes to consuming. Your news media especially news is to look at both sides. I recommend is look at both sides of birth websites of the big ones who represent and everything else like that and look at the smaller people on Youtube and everything else like that. But don't lock yourself into a box going to one source the only because you'll get to a point where that they'll make hypocritical arguments or false arguments and then you're stuck in the shit because you purposely intellectually locked yourself in so why I encourage people to actually look stuff and everything and I could be like selling my GRANDPA expand your mind get out there and get on with that. But it's it's more of like I said it's like there's no reason to not do this anymore. These things take seconds of your time but when we're talking about we're talking about high society that's addicted to mobile phones and instant information. Everything's like well. If you have access to the instant information you might as well look at it all and actually come to a conclusion Thurn believe headlines Denzel ends in Washington who was talking to a reporter and he said you know you guys don't care it's all about being I not being by WHO's right. Yeah and then basically says if you don't read the newspaper your uninformed and if you read the newspaper you misinformed Yup yeah and really elegantly and and like I said if you have any suspicions of people or anything else I have the golden move because we have this into your follow the money your follow who funds them and everything else like that and it becomes a much clearer picture of who is in charge of this and everything else like that and no. This isn't in some kind of Nazi ran or anything. Good a perfect example. Take the The new documentary. That just got released. The Game Changer. Yes severe have you seen this nick. This I've heard about the game changer. Is this whole thing about you can be Vegan and a bodybuilder. And Shit like that right like your. Yeah Boy James Cameron. Yeah it's on Schwarzenegger it's got like some UFC fighters on and they do all these tests and stuff. They James Cameron a Vegan. Yeah well I don't know wise. I need to get this. Get this sir. It's produced by James Cameron and all this stuff guest. The I think it was the. He's the got money from particularly you know yes. Write them produce Vegan Shit one of these companies. The biggest weakest one is earned by James Cameron. He created a documentary. That said Vegas is like the best way to and it's better and you can get really cut and rip it being a Vegan and he also earned some Vegan companies that make money from people being Vegan. Yeah like I wonder. Oh yeah you know what the fuck yeah conflict of interest interest. You GotTa look out for those and I'm going to say this right now and everything. I understand the coal is a Vegan. Isn't everything and I support it. I actually kept back back my meat intake and everything else like that but cut on me for. It's fun. Yeah just for fun. It's just like the proteins and everything I need I can get everything. Listen you central's that I need for and stuff like that but I'm not going to give up something. I enjoyed the same time. Look at the same time. I'm not wasting me animal's life either. That's what it comes down to become what it comes fantasists. I understand that people who do it for good causes and understand you know we don't. There's no way we can have the best treatment for something you kill. That's no way it could be because we still have to end their life and everything Eh. But the fact is we're not putting their lives to waste and everything else like that. This is a whole system built around that they lifestyle has a use or anything else like that. Because I'm sorry to everyone if we let all all the fucking animals go and everything they fuck it up because they animal they had no order and Ryan between each other and everything going back onto this game changing thing right. It's pretty big people Bussi and a and the trading it like. It's the new Bible. Yes that in well informed. The science is solid Nar. It's misleading at at best. Yeah this entire thing documentaries just very misleading about how being a body and being Vegan is good. The thing isn't busy that this documentary saying not. This is this. Is this the end. Obey all kind of thing. You need to be Vegan or else unethical gladiators raw vegans back in the days. I'm like really by her. Who's thing and They had a luke supposedly they found found some gladiators that just a billion Ross and shit like that. I'm like do. They just ate that because they were Vegan or they didn't get what they eat. How many gladiators have you studied on? By the way like these the best gladiators or were they just chump gladiators like I'm not really sure. Oh I can tell you getting this goddamn information guys I can tell you that information is. They're not getting the information. You see the best. gladiators were the best slaves who fought the most everything thing and they got to go to their own private areas of being champions which is what they had the women and meat and meat was the delicacy back then so they had meat and wine and women to them consistently so the big guys on top with meaning and they way full and they go. Their sexual desires is nursing taken care of so they will ready to fight to the death. Not the other one's coming in. Fresh faces are Satan. None of none of whatever you guys say matter because the once you told need that James Cameron has a stake and a lot of money to make out of this. That's enough for me to know what's disingenuous. Yes it's like. Mac is making a documentary about fucking potatoes news. Yeah and saying how good is on a date moore potatoes a manufacturer fucking gibbs. Yeah Right. It's exactly the same. It's just if anyone stands to make money as a conflict of interest yet things. I've I've caught a few friends. I've seen as documentary going. I'm going Vegan now. I'm going vegetarian. Like why because some pseudoscience. Some misleading science has on this documentary. Said this thing I one thing about dieting writing right if anybody comes in and says I have a magic pill you do like these. You'll lose weight you'll get you'll get. They are disingenuous already already. They're lying complete life because it's what Vegan Diet could actually be really good an individual person if your body doesn't doesn't agree with meat and whatnot doesn't go They digest maintenance not probably Dan's probably the way to go with it. But anybody that comes out and says this is the way to go. You have to do it like this sir. US No other way that is absolutely complete bullshit right there. Every single person is an individual when it comes to their diet yet yes of course like you mark and fuller something that somebody has done but you have to still change it to how your lifestyle is. Buddy does look through that stuff. Yeah that's why they always tell you if you're GONNA to go to a diet go to a doctor. I actually get a proper blood tests and everything but that actually probably break down your data me because there wasn't just goes by the recommendation of saying. Oh Oh you got to be a disheartened district. There's different genetics between people and different races and everything that have some more skinny someone lodge others. It's just how it works. And there's there's some people that have to just be carnivals. Actually that's one of the things I like whenever people talking about veganism I use. My fiance's is an example Raton. She's fructose intolerance so she got it. Legumes right. She wouldn't be able to be Vegan like there's no way he could be vacant with adding legumes. Because that's where they get a majority of pertains from she just fucking dead. Yeah if she can nate any the other ones her so she's a perfect example of people who physically be Vegan like so you can't just say this is the everything being for everyone. Yeah someone is not going to physically be able to do it. Yup Definitely yes. That's not be Vegas. The people who've tried to make cats Vegan have died died. They try to make the animal cruelty volt. We've we've fucked evolutions. They have to have meat. That's happened. They have to do it the way they can cattle from any of those things so you should check it out. I will change you. You'll find it pretty funny too. Yeah I'm a vacant now five cameras. We didn't talk about the high this year. That movie. That's also on Netflix. As well as the flat earth left flatter. Watch yes yes we did talk about Beyond the curve with this this this this nurse Myrdal point in this world anymore. HYPOC crazy or your or hyper racist misogynistic sexist jerk. Yeah you can't just be a jerk. You just eight idiot. You have to the poll. I saw this documentary video camera on Youtube recently. Flat Office versus scientists right and the whole fee is that they would ask them. Questions is see who would step forward right and I think one of the questions did you just just the other side is stupid. All the flat out this came forward. They just thought scientists was stupid scientists that Ford at all like Huckabee Idiots. There are we. We don't think you're stupid stupid. We just think you'll misinformed and that's the best thing always say that. I think people need to be gardening. And that's about the science community. They think at that. We shouldn't laugh at those people. We shouldn't taste them and ridicule them. Yeah because they don't understand and they don't know that young dumb they need to be taught better. Yeah you know. And that's why I love science community. They're amazing these people could land land and fucking spaceship on a space station and they didn't understand what a theory flato says. Don't actually understand. What a scientific theory is a theory of something only gets consistently tested people? Yes that's what makes it. A theory doesn't become a fact until as much testing has done physically. Even that like a scientific theory is okay. Hey let's take our understanding of science use a mathematics that we do and create a theory from that mathematics and until they can actually probably tested until the Scientific equipment gets up to a point but a scientific theory when it's been ridiculed and a lot of people have seen the mathematics it comes consensus whether or not. That's the fear is plausible. Yes it is a theory because it hasn't been tested yet but the scientific consensus the mathematics adds up. 'cause take black holes for instance right. Yes a black hole was a scientific theory off into was a like last year and then they were able to take her of the very first black hole actually having evidence but all that does is on paper. Yeah when we though actually able to capture the what was the waves that came from. It was something else that came from the black hole. Typically they turn the earth into a giant satellite using small satellites. Yeah and that's how the dolphins just basically catching the wave of how world and that just went by everyone. Yeah one of the greatest things decided we get bits. Bits Zeke's today yes just went past. People knows what the fuck with the Kardashians doing is it. Yeah this year. We had the historic. Where the space station like you said went to space and docked with another space station? That's never been done before. We see that all the fucking time. I'm an anime and everything else. And all the other sci fi but that's the first time it ever had the combining of the Because they will talk about other shit instead. That's your problem problem. That's the problem with that is not in anyone's just garbage. Just get your album. That's how it is that when I saw the black hole of that that image. I'm like I almost cried and wept. Yeah I wept. I'm fucking hell. This is an amazing snip Ford. And then how they actually took the photo you like well that is really fucking depressive. No I got the hot cold sweats when I realized black holes will real. Oh Shit Yeah. Well we'll think about this. The Milky Way's spiral galaxy. Aranda what are we spiraling into guys. Galaxies a center the center of every fucking galaxy. They must be something that we're evolving. Galaxies spiral It's true there's just gas dancing. They will eventually be vural though eventually turned to being the Spiro. Yes yes yep yeah. So I'm fucked. People think way pretty good fit in two thousand nineteen. I still had a really good year. Yeah well this one's for you guys so thank you very much love us. Thank you very much for the we've had we're GONNA. I'm having orgy now with three. No thank you I was GONNA call some bills around still no thank you. I'm engaged but shares out the door. Yeah I live in a world of trust trust. Lafayette safe means fucking the whole ordeal and I leave. Exactly 'cause you guys will have one of those touching moments. We never look at each other again properly dude. That's that's why the wrestling Mass Wilson. It does it put. It takes you out of the plan after today's episode guys we will not be back for least four weeks four weeks off one month. Always you cannot till the end of January might see like smolt beings but these picassos young. Yeah there's GonNa be some more changes and everything along Starting next month we're going to be I'm going to be starting on uploading the game footage and everything thing dip. Yes yes all call has little enhancement as well. Maybe not yet not yet no maybe deadline. It's not all fun. It's yeah yes I'm what I'm what but on my side it will. Yeah that'll be. What are we jumping in food for the start of the month so into youtube in that kind of stuff getting get some The cheapie laptop from Kogen most likely in the capture Kaden. We can stop from the except for the K.. Machine which I'll get fixed up while we like hd cameras amorous four K. cameras and it's like an easily just go to the shoulder playfully and stuff to cash in that favor from pole. Yeah he's not gonNA CASH GONNA cash. Fifth is my no. He never cashed any fan favorite. You'd have to cash in through Anna. Yeah not the report. What are you talking about that? Changes at every fucking time when it comes down to it. It's just like I'll pay half all just give you one hundred. The box was like Voodoo. What if it's like five six hundred for the repair patch on the back man? Smoking a pancake house. Yeah that's not a gift if for the majority of it the guys thank you for an amazing year. Yes you guys have heard me spiel about the Twitter and everything too much. I'll just but Lincoln description like I say thank you thank you very much. Thanks thanks very much good new year. We'll see you. You had a safe merry Christmas and hopefully have a safe and bucs you Andrew. There was an argument. have a safe new US guys is turned drink and drive. Never do that. That is huge. Relent Darn Yeah. It's easy to get around just Uber. It Uber Day Olah allow. What a fucking just catch a ride with someone who goes and I'll give you right out? Yeah Man let's say at least he's not going to crash. Yeah he he'll get you to your work. And anyway they beautiful faith everybody round yeah

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The New York Times' Sam Dolnick on why FX, not Netflix, was the right place for The Weekly

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The New York Times' Sam Dolnick on why FX, not Netflix, was the right place for The Weekly

"Marketing surprise surprise sharing attack speaks with marketing leaders particularly those with new brands in recent weeks charene sat down with the CO founders of a brand that makes shoes before we get to this week's interview I want to encourage you to subscribe to one of digitize other podcasts and that is making marketing every week I speak to leaders in media with this podcast and in making The New York Times is focused on your role now yeah it was about five years ago when Dean Becca took over one of the first things he did was he realized France that is quip that podcast is making marketing subscribe now wherever you listen to your podcasts Sam welcome to the podcast thank you Brian Happy to be here okay so explain your shift from from being a reporter I think that time I was deputy sports editor and dean asked me to go figure out what this job was and so from there kinda shifted to trying to think about how to be frank we had just kind of made the seismic evolution from print to the desktop and we're like hoof okay made it mm somebody who's a journalist who's thinking about how this is going to change things so that was my job I had been a reporter investigative reporter a Metro reporter challenges TV percents and while soon be able to watch the weekly on the Times own website hope you enjoyed the conversation that airs on FX and who Sam Donaldson who served on the launch team of the daily joined us this week to discuss the genesis about the daily and the weekly the and so one of the first things Dean said was we need a mobile editor. I don't really know what that job means I don't have a job description for it I just know we need an editor in the newsroom is we all realize and remember this is right after the innovation report that our audience had shifted to mobile into giant way and in a way that we hadn't been fully prepared for taking an expansive view of its journalism it's runaway hit podcast the daily has encouraged the times to expand into TV also with the weekly a news media programs Oh you know what products it could use with its brand in order to to reach new audiences and your New York Times N. Y. T. now was an interesting and then it was like no no this is even bigger and we weren't fully prepared for that the newsroom wasn't quite ready or hadn't quite grappled with what that meant news right and it got the times just like experimenting with things talk about the daily and and daily is sort of runaway hit are you should be in charge of podcasts and this was a moment we said you know what we don't know how to make great podcasts let's go find someone who does so we did this eight like that really was kind of the Trojan horse through which a lot of our digital first ways of thinking and working and writing came into the could put up with the cereal maybe one other podcast as sort of putting podcasting on the map it's sort of second or third wave I guess it is at this point how did you started working on this new audio language in the run-up was the first podcast of the modern era that led to than the daily okay so why do you think that that's exactly it was part of that exact moment and that was like sort of coming I feel like The Times the at that point after the invasion report was really just you know trying to figure out comment work and didn't work on its own right but it paved the way for so many changes that were still using today rehired and we brought her in and from there she taught the building how to think in audio number we started with Come about the we never took podcasting particularly seriously at the time it was Kinda like blogs for us a lot of desk said blogs yes it was twenty what sixteen or so a couple of us me included thought that we should take podcasts a lot more seriously and this was expertise they know stuff and the daily figured out your newspaper story that's often not the most important thing it's like what you know what you saw national search with this kind of grand question what should the New York Times sound like we posted that out there and got many hundreds of applications from audio producers all over the world cereal and this was you know this newsroom is teeming with stories we gotta figure out a way to tell them audio and in the old days we would have said hey you're good metro editor going was the New York Times we thought of the place forever is we've got a lot of reporters and reporters produce newspaper stories it's it's kind of magic kind of lightning in a bottle and you couldn't engineer it quite I think the lessons for us I think that made this little political podcast just kind of on a dime we launch it probably within less than a month the first day in the office and the two of them really kind of borrow and he's Kinda Fun and funny and has kind of a wicked sense of humor really smart flew in reporter when you heard him on the phone did you think that's that's a good radio he's tatum all of that adds up into something that feels quite special so explain then how that led to the weekly and and because I mean the weekly grew out of the daily six and they were kind of fun in the desk kind of like him and a bunch of desks head podcasts and they're kind of fun and a bunch of the desks like them and around that time age and I think that that human connection is is important but it's not just that because lots of places have reporters on on the microphone I think that it's the a political podcast is during the twenty sixteen campaign called the run-up and we we needed to host for it and we looked across the political team I used to sit next to Michael Barr kind of like he's fun to talk to he he had a certain certain thing and Lisa watched a bunch of youtube videos of him and got coffee with him and said Yeah let's try it and so we daily works so well I mean obviously the Times is gigantic brand not certainly helps your Why do you think it worked as well as it did audio producers sense of narrative you know if you go back and diagnosis daily episodes so many of them say okay let's start at the beginning you know it's not what happened and spent a long time to really seriously interviewing people and hired this extraordinary young producer from Boston from Wbz you are at least Tobin and we she was the first funny slow way that he talks become kind of iconic recognizable and you can connect with that in a way that you can't quite with Michael Schmidt on the crazy places around the world and there's a way to take viewers there in a visceral way that similarly has the DNA of the reporting it's built on the reporting yesterday it let's unspeakable this thing and turning things like you know NATO into a narrative what is NATO again that it started like the is our journalism needs to change we involved in NYC now I work closely with a lot of those folks? I wasn't officially on the team but spun out rarer that's right that's what I want to hear and to taps into that expertise in a in a human way that is much more engaging frankly than the convention lightning bolt this is the modern New York Times this is the DNA the rigor the ambition the excellence of the New York Times as we like to think of our that kind of storytelling approach combined with fancy production levels that are fun and these reporters expertise and you can't understate Michael Barbaros Mag that's visceral you want hear it but she's also going to Mozell and going through rubble-strewn buildings and as powerful audio is you want to see some of that stuff and like we were leaving all of this great reporting and experiences on the cutting room floor with just audio and just print so of newspaper reporting yeah because it kind of makes reporters characters to some degree exactly because they're recurring characters recurring characters and there's something else you meant as a recurring character is the starting point or was it really just exploring for ways to go you know defined expressions for the journalism it was it was visuals it was the sense that you know we can bring with audio we can bring you into a rookie mini Macci's interview with an Isis militant in our political life I don't think it would have hit the same way so what were some other ideas though for the New York Times expressing itself visually art in a modern new way it taps into what these reporters no and we thought we could do that again we thought we could do it visually that we we've got reporters in all of these anything you know what I hope we do all right yeah I mean the weekly is our first and our biggest television show but I think there's a lot more stories to tell riding the podcast boom but also the news like right we to say that the daily was born of an emergency like I it launched in February twenty seventeen within weeks of Action Company and you're going to have to figure out distribution go through the entire process because yeah I think it's a little bit more lift than setting up the podcast Oh my God I'd in TV that there's an opportunity here to tell visual stories and we pretty quickly realized that we couldn't do it ourselves in audio we thought we could we taking office like this was a moment people wanted to know the news in a way that they never had before and had the daily launched at a different moment but it's kind of channeling it showcasing it in a different way so it's so that kind of the same insight that made the daily work is what we've tried to bring to the was TV hire a producer star with one and build a team around her and keep going Television it's such a big machine from you know directors of Photography Gene Street here in New York City that had made a bunch of shows that we admired they made the circus on showtime which is kind of a modern political show that a year or so to build it that way but we've got a team of editors at the Times it's a mix of veteran New York Times editors and new journalists that we left right has a dedicated team at the weekly of producers and cinematographers and video editors who are technically on the left right staff but didn't quite realize how much more of a lift it was TV is a huge machine and so a bunch of US had this thought that there's something we should be doing uh-huh binge-watching we felt like we could be part of it so it was good timing I mean just like the daily I mean it succeeded for a lot of reasons but time was probably you know one of them I mean timing I can do this so the first thing we did was cast about for the right production company and we pretty quickly were introduced to left right production company on nights cinematic in a way that we really liked and they had a decade ago made the this American Life TV show which I think was ahead of its time it was actually really good and would have been form one hundred percent of the daily and that's partly why it's the naming conventions work that way the daily was for a lot of us kind of we just wanted a visual way to tell that story and then you know better than anyone what's happening TV explosive creativity of new forms and new platforms and and then a producer who you know we've hired a team from Vice News and some of them have made their own documentaries and some who have worked in sixty minutes and that's kind of what it work that's how that's how it works the daily has shown us that we've got a lot of reporters and yes they they produced newspaper stories but even more important they have in the streaming era but they were quite thoughtful about what's the DNA of this non visual programming so we together so fast it almost feels like magic it's you know trump does something on Wednesday and Sunday night there's it's not a news story about it's like a movie about trump it's like quite instant running dialogue between our editors and there's about what are the right kinds of stories that we should tell and then you know producer goes out and spends three weeks in the field we'll visually and we're trying to put a bunch of 'em okay so explain a little bit though the actual process because I mean going into TV the TV producers are very savvy about sure that's going to be great investigation it is not an investigation for TV we're GONNA pass on that one so it's kind of a hired for this who live in the New York Times newsroom and our meeting all day with reporters and editors and trying to figure out what are people working on and what are big stories coming and then I talk about it there's a spiritual connection yeah to there it's completely separate teams in separate mediums and separate lesson experience in in quarter sizes a CMO of one of the oldest insurance companies in the game that's metlife and the head of marketing over at one of the most visible six or seven of them all in forty eight hours and FX to be clear was not on our radar I did not story ideas start with the Times it's our editors saying the business desk has this big investigation going we can jump into it on here here's what the reporting looks like work it through until it's done so topic the the decision to go with effects in hulas distribution at least initially yeah it was it was like the stuff that we were making so then we went to Los Angeles and did the thing to the rounds we went to Amazon. Hbo And Hulu and Netflix Insurer Time Two dogs times at times is used to it's not like it's dealing with third parties when it's doing its its reporting and stuff but to be creating this obviously it's The New York Times that we could do which was unusual we could just probably tried to sell it on an idea we didn't want that we wanted to make a pilot funded ourselves just to see is this worth our time we and comes back with a first draft and a bunch of your time's editors a bunch of left writers we all sit together and watch it and critique and edit and suggest and kind of because we worked with luxury but cameras in the field and tried to make a couple of stories that we thought proved the idea that there is a television front line and all across the industry so it's a mix of like times veterans and people that you brought in from the outside because it's important I would assume to have look the people who are really good journalists are just the journalists yeah I guess like they can flex that into to a TV for that's a big part of the bet though it is really different language and so we had this idea we spent many months six months maybe fully on the New York Times as dime piloting the like to see is there there there before we even went to Los An- a fee to editors the DB's to assist it's just a huge thing that we thought building that from scratch would take forever and was probably unnecessary there are production companies that sure you to look for an organization of the Times did you know own I guess TV station channel Yes so it's not exactly new TV but you need like talked but the production of it influences it quite a bit hugely it's confused machine now and it took going back and forth between their offices and ours our editors spend time in their offices there's editors spent time in ours but it's this kind of collaborative medium where the we think of is all part of the weekly team so they're producer in our newsroom there in the building often I mean sometimes the editing bays are all right so it's kind of we're spending a lot of time on the one visually yeah some people can love some sure we had a millionaire I mean there were there were more conventional ideas like we should have a modern anchor who sits behind a desk takes you through the animated series in a room with the folks from left right really like them and then this is what is the division of Labor sorry to interrupt what is the division of Labor them because I mean I imagine this is new for the do news they don't do documentaries they don't do that but we're excited to be in the in to meet with them with Atlanta posters on the wall and stuff that's cool so we went in at expect to even be interested in fact they do I admire their shows watch Atlanta and the Americans and the O. J. Simpson Show I love their stuff but they don't the people who don't think that they are New York Times yet that feed into the subscriptions strategically at some level because I mean the what four and a half all in we want to start its word we're pleased but there's work to do and the way we think we're GONNA get there is by reaching whole organization is seemingly from the outside organized around this idea of consumer revenue being supported by by its customers how does this the daily is a big advertising business now and we think that it builds crazy loyalty we see that people once you listen to the and it should be bigger and you know Mark Thomsen our CEO has said publicly we need to get through ten million digital subscribers we've got a long ways to go you know we're at executive he kind of flipped it and he said Fx is never done a show like this. I never thought we should do a show like this but I'm saying right now here in the room estimates audience should be the same rather than just the advertisers but how does this then play into that daily drives subscriptions we're going to do the show and you're GonNa do the show with us it should be on FX and his pitch was. I know you're out here probably talking to HBO and Netflix Showtime Brian Murphy shows who watched their who watch Atlanta they said the point of this show is to bring the Times journalism to a new audience and uh-huh every business model has its downsides yeah we earn I would think the New York Times is I mean everyone it it maybe it's just living make them care about the stories that you care about an introduce them to your kind of journalism and they said this place has a broader reach than any of the others why was that in New York like I think like you know it reaches everyone and stuff like that yeah it does I mean we have a giant audience of people who visit the homepage but it's not everyone affects people FX people are in ninety million homes affects people are as as they described their demographic people who are still early. You're listening multiple times a month multiple times a week it's now part of your life and then the trick is okay how do you get them to go from subscribing to a podcast subscribing to the time times people they it's not that they hate the New York Times they don't think of the your terms and never heard of the daily they don't know Michael Barr this is a new audience the people who watch their news and you've heard we've started doing producers on the on the daily explaining the way to support this show is by subscribing to the times we've got a newsletter now works Ching cable these are the people who have not cut the cord yet these are people who are across the countries or a really different mix socio economically who are Not New York Times and it was a really good station you could see that the FX executives got it and understood what we were trying to do really quickly and then they kind of turned the tables in it is working we've got a newsletter that tries to get people who listen to the daily to now get the daily in their inbox to click on a link we think that if we cast a big wide and we were we just come from their offices and he said you could go with them but then you reaching New York Times people you've already got the people who are watching HBO who the important strategically particularly I feel like with the Times with with its mission particularly around subscriptions he ended up in the doubling down on your core and I think if there's a knock it said well you know the New York Times is double down on its core around you know finest getting painted as resistance to trump and stuff like this but you can see John Landgraf you should have him on the show if you haven't he's the head of FX in a quite formidable and savvy leader in television finding a new audience and then the work is bringing bringing them in bringing them down the funnel okay said similar here with the weekly Yeah I think the daily and the weekly time anytime you guys write a story that's like somewhat you know not a anti-trump you get all these people saying I'm cancelling them canceling that's the flip side and then we can figure out how to build that bridge back towards our top of the funnel stuff this is top of the funnel stuff this is from that lens are similar strategically now a quick break for a message from our sponsor global web index did you know over half of light brands agencies and media organizations are placing far more focus on understanding their audiences global web index is the platform that helps them do that offering consumers globally are blocking ads online this stat is from global web index and it is just one of many proves consumers are becoming harder to reach that's access to the largest and most revealing consumer study in the world this covers forty-six countries and over four thousand local markets through which you can is everything from user behaviors to habits to interests and perceptions their latest report on traditional versus Digital Media Off Bull Web index dot com slash digital to get the bigger picture on media consumption and a taste of their research with there's an indepth look at the widely discussed but rarely quantified shift from traditional to digital media helping marketers understand where to invest and why visit glow a free expert report one thing on podcasting is the long tail right I think the daily is it's obviously it's a runaway hit right but that doesn't mean there's GonNa be a thousand dailies right yeah it's I think it's a once in a generation kind of hit and I think that newsroom has more stories that want to be told in audio but I'm not convinced that the way to do that is to launch a whole bunch of other shows with a whole a bunch of other hosts and their own feeds and you know to your point by the long tail I I don't see that as I don't think we can make another show as big as the daily is it there's more right now we've got you twenty minutes a day right twenty like sterling shining like a diamond minutes a day I don't think that's the limit I think that are the idea of looking to spin up like dozens of of these podcasts yeah we're not looking to dozens of these podcasts we yeah I don't know if that's the right

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January 5, 2020: How the US-Iran crisis is being covered; Stelter says it is patriotic to question officials in wartime; Bari Weiss on New York's solidarity march against anti-Semitism

Reliable Sources with Brian Stelter

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January 5, 2020: How the US-Iran crisis is being covered; Stelter says it is patriotic to question officials in wartime; Bari Weiss on New York's solidarity march against anti-Semitism

"Hey I'm Brian stelter. It's time for reliable sources they special edition looking at the story behind the story and this hour of legendary journalist Sam Donaldson here to give his perspective on the unfolding. US Iran prices spending bioline with a lot of others about those comparisons to the Clinton era movie. Wag Rag the dog you've been seeing this conversation. We're GONNA talk about Donaldson and others. Plus this is live in New York New Yorkers marching in solidarity against eight this morning. Is the media doing win enough to expose the scourge of anti-semitism the near Times Barry Weiss. It'll be speaking at this March and rally. The first is going to join us. Live and later. Jury selection in the Harvey Weinstein in Steve Trial is about to begin. New York magazine is out with a new look. What his accusers say we're GONNA have a first exclusive plus but Weinstein himself told CNN an end reporter this weekend that is all coming up on a break? Some news about the king of talk radio the first the airstrike and the aftermath. This is the most dangerous angel point of trump's presidency yet Sunday mornings headline the Washington Post says it all trump vows reprisals if Iran hits US assets and Iran says that is exactly cle- what it will do with action against American military sites. You can see here the hell. I don't see an dot com saying the nation will respond against military sites. This top officials officials say America started the war by taking outsold Omani meanwhile. US Secretary of State. Mike Pompeo is saying that America's just trying to restore deterrence in the region pompeo making the case on six different television shows today now Americans and many others around the world are instinctively suspicious and distrusting kind of what Iranian leaders say. But what about America's leaders President Trump's squandered his credibility at the very start of his presidency and many officials officials in his administration have followed him down a path of deceit. So if you're a skepticism was at like a seven before to be a nine now because simply put governments lie in wartime headline from reason magazine Libertarian magazine and it's true governments American officials lie at wartime and line seems to be this current governments specialty. CNN's latest count found. The trump made ninety false claims in the final two weeks of two thousand nineteen but go back to his first day in office. Remember the first day trump said it was sunny when it was cloudy and rainy. I know people might have. That's funny when it's about the weather but there is nothing amusing about about this situation. Nothing amusing about war as many people have been point out this week. A crisis like this one is precisely when credibility is needed. The most and trump doesn't have it. Reporters need to avoid being cynical to avoid being cynical but we have to question everything especially with memories of the lead up to the Iraq war journalistic values demand that skepticism and patriotism demands it. Let's talk about patriotism. I don't be fooled by the propagandists who are going to tell you to wear blinders in the days and weeks and months ahead. They're already starting to do this. They're already starting to tell you. Just rally around the flag but it is patriotic to ask for evidence. It is patriotic to question official accounts to wonder if the public the book is being manipulated into a wider war. It is patriotic to ask as Fox's Tucker. Carlson did the other day. WHO's actually benefiting from this? It is patriotic to hold our our leaders accountable. But you're going to hear otherwise you're already are. It's already starting to me. I bemoan the fact especially even since the Iraq war that it feels like patriotism is largely dead amongst our journalism for. Where's the home team for a Lotta these people? Pe- patriotism is alive. Even well in America's newsrooms but I suspect that kind of talk is GonNa keep up. This gets worse. If more missiles fly the American press will come commoner more and more pressure to rally around the flag to toe the line to save their questions for later but now is the time right now to insist on evidence and accountability. Now I'm not saying people should be reflexively for or against anything I'm saying people should be critical and think critically about everything especially and this is what the Fox and friends gang will never admit especially when the current administration the current people in power have been proven time and time again him to lie and mislead you look while they're talk shows today to talk about how to avoid a war how to fight a war out a win a war. Let's talk about how to properly cover a war how to shed light not heat on this conflict. Step one is to hear from experts. Were actually there so. Let's start by doing that. Let's bring in Jasmine el-gamaa of the Atlantic Council. She's live and this kimball. She's a former Middle East adviser for the Department of Defense in La. Jason resigned opinion writer at the Washington. Post back when he was the post. Tehran bureau chief. He was jailed for eighteen eighteen months and then finally released in two thousand. Sixteen and in Beirut veteran BBC correspondent Kim got us now scholar at the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace. She has a new book coming out. It's called black black wave about Iran and Saudi Arabia and the Middle East. It comes out at the end of this month. Thank you all for being here. Jasmine I to you. We are living through what appears to be twitter war with Iran trading threats. Two hundred eighty characters at a time. Soleimani a previously taunted trump on twitter and now post airstrike. Now that he's dead dead. Trump is out there saying that if Iran retaliates There are fifty two sites so the United States is already picked out. We are seeing back and forth these taunts these threats. What is the danger? What are the risks of twitter war for civil thank you so much for having me and the risks are huge? I mean this is definitely not the way to conduct diplomacy especially such a fragile time like this people are surmising that perhaps the hominy tweet that was goading trump into action. Basically saying you can't do anything was partly the reason why he overreacted and chose to go with the option of killings a costume Sulejmani And at the same time trump's response about the fifty two targets is vintage trump. It's hardly believable. It also includes something that is is absolutely illegal in international law which is targeting cultural sites and it is just the wrong way. To mitigate any crisis to mitigate a crisis crisis let alone manage a full blown crisis like the one that we're in right. Now it's not the way. Diplomacy has done even if it is you know. Twenty twenty those the facts that need to be front and Center Jason. What other facts do we need to make sure we are getting a front and center in this conversation? Well I think we need to hear more from the Iranian people and obviously since Iran is such a closed society and a lot of ways and media access Restricted is very difficult to know what the response of people on the ground is. I mean we see massive images of massive mourning ceremonies protests. But at the same time There are millions of Iranians who are fundamentally opposed to this regime. I wrote a column this week. The basically said that you know the one thing that all our audience can agree on is that they don't WanNa go to war war and so when president trump makes these kinds of threats It really lays bare the fact that despite all of the claims otherwise this administration has the Iranian people's interest. Not at heart at all. They don't care one bit about what's going on and what will be the future of that country. How does control of the press in the region? Make it harder for us to know what citizens are thinking. I mean certainly. Iran does not have a free flow of information like the US. Well Look I. I think it's very difficult to to to to get a clear picture. Iran state media is owned by the state. It's going to pump out the state line but oftentimes If we turn to social media we can see a different picture of what's going on in that country and as we know from Iran and Saudi Arabia and other countries around the world Other interests are taking a hold of of those platforms as well so it. It's very difficult to get very clear and precise picture of what's going on But what I would say is It's complicated there isn't one opinion. There's there's a multitude of them and we have to do the best that we can to to to to really really dig deep into those. Yeah this isn't a coin with two sides it's a dice with at least six sides. How important is it that the media raised up the voices of regional experts who know the players in all all of these countries not just us in Iran? I think as as Jason just mentioned it is very important to look at all sides of the story and that's why it is important to speak to experts in the region and that's why Thank you Ryan for having on air as well from Beirut The reaction in the Middle East has been very diverse. I wrote about it and I said that there was elation relief. Some sense of foreboding also fear and it's important for American African audiences to get that nuance from the region to understand that what America does in the region has consequences not necessarily only for American interests trust or for American soldiers in the region but also for people in the region as Jason was mentioning people in Iran. Don't necessarily we have the ability to communicate directly with outside world except through social media. We get information from inside. Iran mostly through that state media is state controlled. So it's important to get a diversity of opinions across the region you've had a diversity of of reactions in the media whether it's official or we're not here in Lebanon. For example people have to be very careful line when reporting on this because Hezbollah approximately Shah of Iran political party in in Lebanon as well is very close to Iran and is a very powerful in the country and so people are a little bit wary of how much they can say on air in public and how they should report on this in the newspapers. But I can certainly tell you that whether it's in Syria or in Lebanon or in Iraq or in Iran there has has also been relief that a man plus money is no longer because it's important to remember and it's important for Americans to know that that he was also responsible for the deaths of thousands across the region. He was very much involved in leading Iran's expansionist regional policy in the region and that meant conflict across the the region the counter argument that I've heard from Fox's Tucker Carlson notably right there in prime come on Fox News is there are a lot of bad guys in the world a lot of killers in this world old and is it always in America's interest take take action against them. Let me just play. What Tucker said on Friday night because he burst the propaganda bubble on Fox with a really clear anti-war stance? And I'M GONNA get your reactions. Here's what he said. No one in Washington is in mood for big picture questions right now questions. The obvious ones like is Iran. Really the greatest threat we face. And who's actually benefiting from this in. Why are we continuing to ignore the decline of our own country in favor of jumping into another quagmire from which there was no obvious exit? We know that in the past Tucker has been persuasive With president trump right now though it seems trump is listening to Sean Hannity and others on Fox who are urging him to To show what they call strength in the region adjustment. I'm just curious what your reaction is hearing that kind of commentary on American Television Division. How do you view it from Istanbul because there are not a whole lot of voices like Tucker on Fox News Who might be telling the president to be to be careful right of course and the thing is I mean? It's Kim said the reaction. The region has been fairly varied. You have some people people who are cheering this action on some people who are really afraid of what the consequences might be for others in the region. You know one of the things that the president has done in one thing that I wanted to highlight highlight here is that the president took this action in Iraq. Without you know again. It's like vintage trump without alerting our allies without giving anybody a heads up without without really taking into account the people in the region who could be affected by this kind of escalation. So that's the first thing that I wanted to highlight is that it's completely dehumanizing. In the way that he looks at people in the region Not taking their safety into account not taking their livelihoods into account and that's a dangerous thing for any was president to be doing in the region. But secondly I want to get back to the point about strategic communications that you mentioned it's incredibly important at a time like this to have direct communications communications behind the scenes communications at a very high level between two countries that have such a high level of tension between them. If you'll remember Brian in the two thousand sixteen about I think a week before the The Iran nuclear deal was about to be implemented ten. US Navy sailors eroneous Lee went into Iranian territorial waters and were captured by the I. R. J. C.. Now because we had direct that could have gone really really badly could have scuttled scuttled. The deal it could have escalated really quickly but because we had direct communications between Secretary Kerry and Zarif within twenty four hours though soldiers were released released. Now you have to ask yourself. If this kind of thing happened today would a twitter war solve that or you know what would that lead to without any kind of communication the regime. It's incredibly reckless. And it doesn't allow for any sort of de Escalation. A lot of people are talking about what an escalation could look like. But what does a de-escalation look doc lake without proper communications between the two sides and then finally just really quickly I mean Tucker. Carlson is talking from A. US perspective. The American people did not elect president trump to go to war in the Middle East. He was campaigning on a strategy. or a promise of leaving the Middle East people see him getting more and more involved lived with any sort of a plan or strategy and the rightly You know worried about it Jason. There's often a critique of cable news That says the banging the war. Drums is constant on television on Cable News. Are you hearing that. Are you seeing that. In the in this instance the media's incentivized to promote the notion one of war and a hype up people's fears. Well I think we have to check ourselves against hyping fears. Our responsibility is to to clearly concisely report. What's going on in in a region that's far from from home and one that we don't often understand very well and parse out the truth from fiction I hope that we're able to do that in the days and weeks to come to Jasmine's point about that moment right before. The nuclear deal was was implemented Those were the last days that I was in prison in Iran being held by the IRA. I remember seeing on Iran state television television from my prison cell. That American soldiers had been American sailors had been objected in Iran. And I worried that This would be sort of a death blow to any potential negotiations for my own release. I remember my captor an Irish captain coming to me that day And and he my main interrogator telling me that That this was a good sign that I'd be out sooner because the US Iran were negotiating over key issues as jasmine rightfully points out. We don't have those lines of communications. We still have Americans in prison in Iran And and this spiral out of control in ways that we can't even imagine right now. Kim Jasmine Jason. Thank you all for being here thinking. We're saying the table this hour. I want to ask. After the break of trump's actions are being motivated by media coverage. It sure seems that way. Journalism awesome legends. Sam Donaldson will join us. Live along with Katie Rogers and Paul recall for just getting start. Hi Everyone I'm poppy harlow. We're out with a new boss files episode. She ran for president was the first woman to run a fortune fifty company and a cancer survivor. Who says she is not afraid of anything anymore Carly Fiorina? She's that with the new book. Find your way unleash your power. and highest the potential she was. CEO of Hewlett Packard during the dotcom boom and bust before being fired in what she calls a board room brawl. She space discrimination. Discrimination survived breast cancer and lived through the unimaginable loss of a child. She calls herself a problem solver and says that's why she ran for president after running against then candidate trump in two thousand sixteen. Does she think he should be impeached. Now I asked her here at all. I'm boss files subscribed today. Welcome back to reliable sources are president trump's actions in the Middle East motivated by what he's hearing and seeing on TV and what he's reading. The papers does seem that way according to talk to The Washington Post this weekend quote trump was motivated to act among other reasons is motivated act. But what he felt was negative coverage after. This isn't last year to call off that airstrike after Iran down the US surveillance drone trump also was frustrated. According to the post details of his internal deliberations were leaking out. He felt he looked weak similar reporting this weekend. From The New York Times saying that he's kind of haunted by Benghazi Comparisons Benghazi according to the times trump became increasingly angry. Three as he watched television images of the protests earlier this week outside the US embassy in Baghdad That of course Was All across the news. After the New Year. Trump trump vowed quote. This will not be Benghazi. Is that what he's scared of. Is that what he's worried about. Is that the right thing for him to be focused on talk about all that and more with Iraq war veteran in president righteous media and host of the anger Americans podcast Paul Ryshkov New York Times. Wales correspondent Katie Rogers and legendary journalists former White House correspondent Sam Donaldson Get to see him in just a moment. But Katie you're on this today You have your own reporting about what's motivating the president. Is it really true that what he's seeing on the box. This little teeny box is really that affecting affecting them. I think it's absolutely true that the president pays close attention to all of his coverage and he has a particular aversion to coverage that makes him look weak. I think if you look back to to last year showdown fight. He saw headlines from his you know his allies on Fox News saying he was about to cave. He doesn't like things that make him. Look like he's going to concede or give ground and He likes to appear tough at his rallies. It's a very in. That's reflected in the White House officials that I talked to the former officials who worked with him. It's the worst thing for him to look as as if he might be compared to a predecessor. So the Benghazi The Benghazi rate and the the ensuing drama. That happened out of that is his worst nightmare because it makes makes him look weak. And it also compares into Democratic competitor and predecessor gets reminder to the bookers at Fox and friends your job incredibly important right now. I'm not even kidding Paul. All the responsibility of these TV booker's have especially on Fox to put on voices that are going to you know not not inflame the situation further. That's GONNA be really important. What's important for everybody yeah? These are exceptionally dangerous times. Killing of solar money is is maybe the most significant offensive action. We've taken since the invasion of Iraq. And what we need is tone on. We need to control the tone. We need to de-escalate in order to do that. We have to be measured. We have to be thoughtful. We have to be clear headed. We have to be all the things that trump is generally not whether you're the president United States the host of CNN or Fox or you're somebody with one hundred twitter followers. We've got to try to do our best. ADD information not to re tweet garbage not to take snipes at each other and to remember that real lives lives are in the way human lives the eighty second airborne on their way to Iraq right now. Our troops are being hit in Kenya. Overnight and real men and women are in harm's way and Iranian lives are on on on the line and the entire region the lines. We have to do individually all we can to deescalate the situation and to control the tone as you had the lead in ad light instead of heat. This is testing point point. Not just for the president but for the entire World Sam Donaldson then. Is this possible. Is it possible that cooler heads can prevail. Well yes it's always always possible if you're talking about things that people will understand. Facts for instance in one of the problems. I think the media has today is so many Americans. Don't get information formation. From the normal circumstances of the past where facts are presented and they think about it and say yeah that's right they got information the misinformation and if if they get some facts and the president says well let's fake news well tribal instinct takes over and they said let's right he's correct so the problem I think is not what our our other panelists have said I agree with. Let's get the information out. Let's make certain reporting is tough and hard and when we have to push back against things the the president does or says which are lies and not factual but we've got to get this message somehow to the base and to people who don't okay get from the normal circumstances that you and I do and I frankly don't have the answer for that. You were at the White House in the nineties. During the Clinton impeachment process and at that time wag the dog was a term and everybody's talking We can put up some of the headlines from ninety eight are Clinton's bombs that the strikes at that time against bin Laden early. Wha- is Clinton wagging the dog trying to distract from his own impeachment and now the exact same questions being asked about. President trump now has been impeached by the house. What do you think Sam do you buy it? I don't think he's wagging the dog. Now if you wag the dog you have to do it in September early October when the rally round the flag instinct is there for all Americans you can't wag it now and then after several months of a dog bringing back bodybags to this country and the people saying. What are we doing this for work? I think the president is your other. Guests have suggested is simply reacting to the fact that he can't be seen in his eyes to be week. He's gotTa be strong. He's got to strike back. I'll hit them. They'll hit me but I'll hit him back well. It hasn't worked so far and it won't with Iran the sanctions that he's put on almost kill killed their economy have they given up. Not That I've noticed. Will they give up if you know. Iran and your other guest prop hap- snowy better than I have. Well how they're not gonNA give up. What we have to do is to go sheet? What we have to do is deescalate if we're going to avoid a full spread war with bodybags on both sides? We've we've got to try to start right this moment. And he's going to do it because the base will say look. He promised to destroy North Korea. Look he's now writing love letters he says he and Kim you have fallen in love if he says this about Iran is through. You were talking about strengthen moment ago and I'm thinking about what would show. Oh strength than this White House. One Way Wales can show strength is by holding. Tell about his briefings by answering questions from the press on camera by having president trump give interviews. I just want to note that it's been three days since there's been informal on camera White House briefing. The Pentagon has been holding some televised briefings. But not in the wake of of the airstrike In Baghdad at Paul. I wonder what your reaction to this dynamic is that The the Pentagon is holding background. Briefings is holding background briefings. But we're not seen that kind of On Camera Accountability. It's bad it's bad for our democracy. It's bad for our troops. It's bad for the American people. We deserve the truth and we deserve to hear it. From all sides to include the military. What's notable notable right? Now is on the Sunday talk. Shows you don't see the chairman of the joint chiefs you don't see Admiral Mike Mullen. You don't see Colin Powell anyone in uniform representing the military. That may be in part because they they don't know what's happening because trump is far ahead of the military as you've been on as he's been on the Trans Ban abandoning the Kurds so many times before people military just catching up to his tweets. So the American people deserve the truth. The media must be briefed and it's important to remember the American people include military families. They need to know what's happening to their sons and daughters who are on airplanes right now to the Middle East. They deserve the Truth Truth and that has to come from the Pentagon and from the White House so we can also control the narrative globally if we control the narrative then we can achieve the highground if we lose the moral high ground. Globally we lose all wars and and then I shoots are really in trouble I I wonder Katie as well as Puerto. Right now are you. Are you getting answers to questions from the White House. You do not own camera. They're not having briefings but are they at least responsive in other ways I mean I think that the White House right now when you talk to anybody inside it's an absolute reflection of WHO's at the top. There's this sense of indignation that this that this decision and is so monumental and it's not being covered and given the credit of of him really taking decisive action against a maligned entity and you know the guy was a murderer and why. Why isn't the media giving the president his do? It's it's basically the same thing. We hear a lot of times when he makes decisions like these except now now is leading to an open escalation in the Middle East. Is it ironic that this White House has been holding on background briefings meaning an anonymous person. uh-huh speaks to reporters given the president said no one should trust anonymous sources right and even secretary Pompeo said today when he was asked about I think Jake Tapper earlier asked him about you. Know what can you share with the American people. The American people really need to know. I thought it was really interesting. That secretary Pompeo said you know we need to protect our sources in our information and you you know that's an another world that's exactly what we do and you have to trust the information being given us. Oh needs to work both ways Kadian. Paul Thank you Sam. Thank you as always great. Great to see you With more on this just a moment with Atlantic staff writer David Fromm. He has regrets about his role in the to the Iraq war and he's sharing those publicly. He's also warning about a possible disaster in Iraq David from learning from history. It's one of the most important things we can do at a crisis moment like this. We've also been talking talking about the importance of asking questions and the vital nature of accountability So let's talk about someone who's held himself accountable David Fromm who's a staff writer at the Atlanta Lanta he wrote in May of last year about The war on terror and the run up to the Iraq war and his own role pushing for the invasion of Iraq during the Bush years as a former speechwriter under George W Bush from been credited with coining the term axis of evil to refer to Iraq and other powers in the Middle East he wrote for the Atlantic last year. I believe that those of us who advocated the war whether inside or outside government carry lifelong responsibility for that advocacy. David Frum joins me. Now some people David. When I say you're booked on on this show they say why are you booking people that supported the Iraq war? They should be. They should be removed from the public debate or discourse. I actually think what we can learn from. You is really valuable. What can we learn? Well if we took that we would certainly thin out the Democratic field. I'm that's through to hear the things I take especially in this week. As President Bush pushed toward war with Iran Iraq in two thousand and three he had legal authority from Congress hit international coalition He had a popular support and the operation clear warplane and the war still failed and none of those conditions are present. There is no authorisation from Congress. There is no public support. There is no international coalition. And there's no clear. War Plan with the United States has embarked on is an escalator of of retaliation with no vision of where to go and if things did not with under such my more favorable circumstances in Iraq in two thousand and three things failed. How're things possibly going to succeed? The United States is not prepared to pay the price of re stabilizing the Middle East. It's too big a project. It's not worth it. Iraq was a smaller problem. Aranda a bigger one. You tweeted this. Killing enemies is the easy part. That's something they're taking from. Iraq has a lesson The United States has tremendous destructive the power more destructive power than any society in the world but America Constructive Po the America's great constructive power to but not so much willingness to construct so. Yeah you can detonate the bomb you you can blow things up. But how do you rebuild. I often think about Iraq that if the United States had captured bin Laden in December of two thousand and one is nearly we did the Iraq war probably would not have happened then. The Iraq war happened as a result of one failure that we double down having failed to capture bin Laden. We needed success us. So Iraq became the success that we didn't get in Afghanistan and now he's Iran going to now. We're going to make up for the lack of success in Iraq by trying an even bigger projects still in Iran of this is this is an escalator. That doesn't go anywhere good. doesn't go anywhere in the midst of all of this. The president is still finding time to post crazy easy tweets. I mean he's re tweeting stuff from obscure and fringe account. Sometimes it's conspiracy theory stuff sometimes misinformation. Sometimes it's just really propagandistic pro pro-trump stuff some of the examples from over the holiday season at one point. He tweeted out what some people think is the name of the whistle blower. Even though it hasn't been confirmed he's been calling mine anti publicity crazy I just I wanna take a moment. Think about what he's doing on his twitter account because it does tell us something about his state of mind. Does it not was. Something's irrational and others. Not The the naming of of the presumed whistleblower that's an act of intimidation It's not illegal for the president to name a whistle blower but it is illegal for the president to coordinate a campaign of retaliation allegation and that clearly is what the president's doing at other times. He is acting irrationally. Many regret the president tweets. I do not I am glad he does it. Because it shows does the world what the truth is about the presidency shows Americans what the truth is if right now even as dire situation as Iran and an Iraq if the navy were not ready to go the air force. We're not ready to go. We would not consider fighting a war if we didn't have the material capability if you're president is not able to to lead the country You don't go to war. Donald Trump has never even aspired to be president of the United States. He's president of a little less than half the United States. And that's the only job he's ever wanted. He regards the majority of the country as his enemies. How can he lead a united nation to war? He hasn't been talking about hating. The state of New York and things like that recently used you said on this program a year ago that relative to his performance trump actually gets really favourable. Flattering News Coverage. It should be more critical. Do you still believe that. Yeah no it's just it's just amazing. I mean there is a whole network that exist to support the president's EGO needs And on the networks like this one that tried to try to be fair Look there are generous contracts tax paid people who will come on. CNN's air to defend the president. And I understand why you do that. But it's not it's not a favor he would ever return to you. Let let me just no one headline from the New York Times this week before you have to go. White House withhold twenty emails between two trump AIDS on Ukraine aid. Just more evidence of what seems to be a cover up by the administration as the impeachment process moves from the House of the Senate doing quick thoughts on that one. My lawyer friends tell me that never in the history of Kreil. Has Anyone ever withheld evidence that tends to exonerate that exonerates them. That says it all. Doesn't it David. Thanks so much for being here. Thank you thank you when we come back our newsrooms doing enough to cover the rise in anti-semitism here in the United States and our conspiracy theories online working to spread information and calls hatred of Jews. Very wise joins us live from Brooklyn in just a moment. There's this great march going on in Brooklyn from Manhattan to Brooklyn Showing Solidarity. We'll be back in just two minutes New Yorkers are marching in solidarity right now a spate of violence against Jews in the region. These are live pictures of the no hate. No fear March It's near it's actually reaching the Brooklyn Bridge Right now. We're GONNA show to you in just a moment. They are heading toward a rally in downtown Brooklyn now. CNN's research has counted eighteen alleged antisemitic incidents in New York state. Just since December December I in the highest profile attack five people were injured. A mass stabbing at a Rabbi's House during Hanukkah celebration. There's been a lot of criticism of the news media For for possibly underplaying the rise in anti-semitism. You can see for example. Ivanka trump saying this has not been covered strongly enough by the national news media this week. The New York Times editorial board endorsed today's Marseille New Yorkers need to march in the streets together and joining us live now from the mark is very Weiss she's an op Ed staff writer and editor at The New York Times. And she's going to be speaking at the rally a little bit later. He's also the author of the recent book. How to fight anti-semitism Barry? What's it like there? There are tons of people. We're just starting to walk over the Brooklyn Bridge. Every elected officials teams in the city and state is here. I saw Senator Chuck Schumer Schumer. This morning I saw the City Council Cory Johnson. I'm certain the mayor's here governor Cuomo's here I heard Kristen Gillibrand here. Everyone is here and there are thousands and thousands of people. You cannot see the end of the crowd and I'm just starting to walk over. The Brooklyn Bridge can't really see the the beginning or the end of this and this was just organized past one one. You've got to go ahead and there's tons of cars going by honking in support of everyone here that's marching which is really really gratifying. Do Subscribe do the recent critique that says that the press has been too slow to recognize what's going on this this dangerous rise in attacks has the press been too slow Oh to pay attention absolutely. Yes when when a white supremacist walked into the synagogue where I became about Mitzvah in Pittsburgh the tree of life and he said all Jews must die. Everyone recognized that for what it was which is that. He was motivated by hatred of Jews Plain and simple for for some reason. People cannot seem to get their heads around the fact that when someone machetes their their neighbors when someone is breaking people's noses is when someone is punching people in the street when someone is ripping off. Someone's Kifah it's motivated by the same thing. I want your viewers to imagine something imagine after the the horrific massacre at the Walmart in El Paso which was motivated by hatred of immigrants and Hispanics if the president said that this massacre was the result of communal friction that it was complicated that it needed proper context that the problem was really gentrification or economic inequality quality or even racism the moral bankruptcy of that would be immediately apparent to everyone and yet that is the kind of thing that we are hearing about the violence. That's breaking out. In places like Crown Heights Borough Park Williamsburg Jersey City. Now muncie with the machete attack. We're not hearing the kind of moral clarity that we hear when the attacker is a white supremacist. And the question is why. And that is a question. The press needs to answer for itself because the fact is before I walked into a movie on Saturday tonight I came out two hours later heard about the machete attack. There had already been nine hate crimes during Hanukkah and no one knew about it outside of the Jewish community. Why is that do? We need to be shot dead in a synagogue for people to pay attention to the fact that our neighbors are being beat up. My friend's father in law was beaten to a pulp on the upper eastside. My friend was berated on the subway told he was the fake Ju- berated with homophobic and anti Semitic comments there is no context for that eat is not complicated. Jews do not cause Jew hatred. And I don't care if those shoes wear funny hats. Jews never caused you hatred period. Like blacks never 'cause racism. Some Muslims never caused homophobia. starry gaze never caught him a phobia and Muslims never causes Lama Phobia. And that's the message that we're here to send today to great way to put it into a sentence at sums the whole thing up hatred of minority groups is also often fueled by conspiracy theories and Fox's Jane Coats and made this point in a recent piece that that I want to quote many of the antisemitic. Attacks are not coming from the far right but by from non white people immersed an anti-semitic conspiracy theories that are just as baseless verlinden dangerous as those it was spread by white nationalists. I think bury the notion of conspiracy thinking which we often talk about. You know with the president. It also applies in this situation exactly. Ah Yes anti-semitism is the great conspiracy theory that is why anti-semitism thrives even in countries especially in countries where there are no Jews Jews because anti-semitism isn't about Jews anti-semitism represents the broken this of a culture and right now we are broken in a lot of ways in this culture just to say one last thing about the amazing article. I think that you just cited by Jane Causton about this right. We have obviously anti-semitism. That's emanating out of the white supremacist. anti-semitism that's fueled by a president that has made war on decency in this country and civility. But we also have people like Louis Farrakhan on it took two years for the mainstream press to cover the fact that the leaders of the women's March one of whom is now a surrogate to presidential candidate Bernie Sanders. That that she has close. Relationship with Louis Farrakhan. This is a man who has called us. Termites a man who says that. The Jews are behind the K. k. k. a man who has said that the Jews are responsible people for the slave trade. How is that acceptable? How is that not a national scandal? The mayor of this city has compared Al Sharpton to Martin Luther King that is a scandal. Al Sharpton incited the Violence Against Jews in the borough that I am now walking toward in nineteen ninety one. He should be made to apologize for that in the mayor should be made to answer for the fact that he is compared him to Martin Luther King Junior. I think we've heard a preview of your speech. They'll be doing over and cabin park. Barry thank you so much much. Thank you for being there. And by the way like in the last ten years this technology allows us to be live with marchers has made such a difference black lives matter protests antiwar protests yesterday it it allows viewers to feel like they are in the crowd. And I think that's really important After the break caramel sources the criminal trial of Harvey Weinstein begins Monday. We're going to break down what to expect but to journalists on the beat next on Monday the criminal trial Harvey Weinstein begins with jury selection in New York City more than one hundred women have come forward with allegations of harassment or assault or other claims against the former movie. Mogul this incredible spread by New York magazine. This is a multi page spread in the magazine. Coming up on Monday with interviews of many of those accusers Weinstein. Meanwhile says he is coming out of a period of self reflection and focusing on clearing his name. He there's always denied any moments any instances of nonconsensual sex scene entertainment reporter. chloe melas interviewed Weinstein by email this weekend and New York magazine's senior correspondent in your in Carmen Is the writer of that feature in the magazine that we just showed you here. And you spoke with twenty-one of Weinstein's accusers what's the takeaway from your story. Well I think we're at a really interesting with the trial. Starting here because media and journalism is kind of how we got to this point and I think that they're aware that by coming together they can also fight back the narrative that's is going to be laid out by Harvey's defense at the trial now. I think it's important to recognize that. This moment that the press actually was a weapon that Harvey Weinstein used for a very long time to in their view intimidate women keep them silent plant stories about them. He would curry favor with journalists. This is a matter of public record would suppress the rumors about out his behavior when people tried to do investigative reporting including my own magazine He managed to get it killed and intimidate people out of going on the record. But the New York Times The New Yorker through relentless reporting manage to expose multiple cases of harassment assault settlements create a really inexorable record. Here and the same thing is what the prosecutors are going to try to do the same thing in in court so these women they wanted to pose with their arms linked they wanted to show that they're unified. They've kept in touch over an email list. Ashley Judd told me tender essential and powerful the way that these women have found each other ultimately though in the trial that begins tomorrow. Only to women's cases will be directly at issue that's at prosecutors have managed to get additional women to to to testify as to Harvey Weinstein eighteen quote unquote bad character. They say that there's a pattern and most notably Annabella Shura the actress who has said that Harvey Weinstein raped. Her is going to testify To the charge of predatory sexual assault. which is the most serious but again it is one thing to make a strong case with many sources journalism? It is quite another to send someone to prison in Toronto. That's right now court of law. This is going to be historic as he was today points out this weekend. This is the first metoo case to be put before a criminal court jury so the thing about the perspective of where we are two years since this movement was was lit partly by the reporting about Weinstein Co.. You've been trying to get Weinstein to talk trying to get answers from him and this weekend he did. Reply apply to a series of questions. You sat him. What is his mood? First of all why is even answering questions. Well I think you know. He's remained relatively reclusive silence over the last two years with the exception of recently speaking to the New York Post after his back surgery from his hospital room He tells me that he has been misrepresented presented by the media which the irony is is that you say that he has used them the media over the years as a weapon to his benefit. He says that there are many misconceptions. out there about him but he would not comment as to whether or not. He had empathy for any of the accusers. He did say that he has been in a period of self reflection and a twelve. Step Up Rehab Program and. He says that he realizes that he worked too hard and that he hurt his family members. you know. I do know from people closest to him. His biggest regret out of all of this was the divorce to his wife. Georgina Chapman You know I think like you said that this comes down to two women. Then they're going to be several bad act character witnesses. I spoke to his attorney Donahue Tuna on Friday and she just tells me that they're most concerned about whether or not they're going to get an impartial jury. That is one of their biggest concerns because remember. They've tried to move this trial multiple times to like Buffalo Schenectady places where maybe Weinstein isn't then as known and people don't know all the details like they do in Manhattan so I know that that is a big concern but harvey again answered eight questions on his terms. We probably should on CNN. And you know it's fascinating on the phone and only wanted to do it via email interesting. It's fascinating these still trying to to portray himself in a in a sympathetic light so trying to get his message out. There could be placed on a gag order right so this is kind of his last opportunity to speak to any press and it could be several romance until we ever hear from him against Iran including thank you both for being here. The New York magazine Pizza Dot Com. Tomorrow we've got one more scoop before we go and one of my sources sources is president trump. Finally breaking news about the radio business. The rush limbaugh show will continue well into the new decade. LIMBAUGH's contract was due due to expire later this year but the company has confirmed to me. syndicator premiers confirmed that he has renewed his deal. A spokesman says it's a long term agreement and declined to comment on any specific terms like the length of the new deal but according to president trump. It's a four year deal. How do we know well? As trump and limbaugh have I've been allies for many years and trump tipped me off tipped everybody off actually a rally on Friday. The president was holding rally. Launching an evangelical is for trump coalition. He launched his usual complaints about news outlets the challenge but then he turned to praise some of his biggest radio and TV boosters. Well we have great people rush. Signed another four year contract. He just wants four more years okay so it was. It was out in the open but nobody noticed nobody noticed the rush. I can't do that. The trump announced rush limbaugh's new deal. I think if trump had tweeted it would've been big story. But you know I guess at this point what trump says a rallies isn't even taken not seriously anyway. It is true Russia's renewed. That's a big deal because of his power in the Talk Radio Universe. That's rapper of reliable sources but we will see you. Online don't CNN.COM. Our nightly newsletter will be out tonight in almost every night. You can sign up for free. RELIABLE SOURCES DOT COM and. I'll see you back here this time next week.

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